Green Light with Chris Long - MNF Recap. Playoff Outlook. James Laurinaitis. Embarrassing Moments.

Episode Date: December 4, 2019

UVA breaks the streak and beats Virginia Tech: 00:44. Gambling wins and tips: 17:30. Shit I saw: 21:06. Fantasy football update: 24:21. Monday Night Football recap and NFL playoff outlook: 29:45. Quick hitters: 50:11. Most embarrassing life moments: 56:55. Skype with James Laurinaitis: 1:18:55. Corrections: 1:43:45 About Chalk Media: Following the unfiltered voice and vision of Chris Long, Chalk Media is the interactive online community for you, the intelligent and humorous sports fan. Driven by access, Chalk delivers a unique perspective that cuts through the canned talking points and provides a variety of content from your favorite sports and entertainment celebrities. Here at Chalk, we don’t take ourselves too seriously, but we are rooted in challenging the perception of professional athletes. We embrace the “real” with a unique combination of humor and intelligence. Chalk is a community with a voice beyond 240 characters that brings a perspective and vibe to a traditionally brash and boastful sports media space. Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more. Nothing is off limits at Chalk - hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. 🌍🏀🏈SUBSCRIBE NOW ⚾🏒⛰️ http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We're in a good mood today. Anything happened over the weekend? It's over. The streak is over, baby. It's finally over. All right. We've got to do a show now. It's time to, we're on to Clemson.

That's right. That's how we think of UVA. Welcome to Greenlight Pod. Thank you. Talking to the listeners. And the viewers. You're the co-host. phones ringing.

We're trying to do a pod here. Tom Paquette. Playoff Tom. Playoff Tom. Tom made the playoffs in our fantasy football league. Shout out to Tom. We'll get to the update on the Dye Tips and who's getting blessed with the Guy Fierry Frost

later this week possibly. So we're on to Clemson and we're on to Christmas. that's right um i want to see if my wife actually meg listens to this pod i want an oculus virtual reality headset for christmas so it's just the just a test i love you yeah though we're on to clemson meg i would like maybe a framed picture

of uh virginia 39 vpi 30 VPI, of course, for people who are, I'm Chris Long as your co-host, making Gunner, we're supposed to do that. The people upstairs, so to speak, said that we should introduce ourselves more. Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah, so I'm Chris Long as Making Gunner.

We're, again, the host of Green Light, and we are lifelong UVA fans making longer than me. You know, I'm going on, what, now, 26 years, but making his entire life, and we attended UVA for a time period. Yeah. And we finally got to beat tech this weekend. So I would say that makes your year?

Year was made from a national championship in men's basketball. This is the capper. It's the year of the Wahoo. This was 15 years in the making, so it really makes a couple of decades, if we're being honest. And if we're being honest, it seems like you're overlooking lacrosse. I'm not.

Nor am I overlooking men's soccer, number one seat in the tourney. There's a lot to love about the Wahoos these days. And the Virginia Tech Hokies, how many national championships do they have? Zero, goose egg. Virginia is one of three teams with increasing win totals over the last three years.

Oregon, LSU, Virginia. Bronco Mendon Hall doing a terrific job. A lot of people wondered how the recruiting thing would go out here. it is a big difference. I mean, when you coach your BYU for a long time, the age and maturity of some of the kids you get, you know, they came back from missions

or like 26, 27, and that kind of automatic pipeline to BYU you have, it doesn't exist here. And certainly culturally, it's a big change to recruit in the Mid-Atlantic slash South. I don't know, are we in the South of the Mid-Atlantic? Both at the same time.

Yeah. So, I mean, he does a lot to change the culture here. This team, was the right team to end this streak. And, you know, if you're a Virginia fan, you know, the pervasive feeling in a lot of sporting contests is that we find a way to lose sometimes.

That's not happening anymore. It's not happening with basketball. It's not happening with football. We were down, what, three times in the second half? Yeah, three separate times, including about eight minutes to go in the fourth quarter. And we end up winning. And I think that mentality starts at top

with Bronco Menon Hall. I want to give a big shout out to Marcus Higgins. Yeah. Tremendous coach. The wide receiver stepped up big time. The Dubois catch, which we've got the graphic here for those of you watching, running away with the Commonwealth Cup, gave that cat a stiff arm that lasted about 25 yards.

Yeah. You hate to see it. My man was going for a ride there. Yeah. Look at that. David A. Harrison Field. Way. Yeah.

Did you have a favorite play from that game? Did I have a favorite play? This might not be the most popular pick because there were some really, that, well, gosh, how can you not pick that or the one that sealed it? But Brian Delaney's 48-yard kick. Yeah, that was huge.

I mean, that's a kick, as you were saying, historically, a Virginia player might miss. I'm up in the box going, he's going to miss it. And he drilled it. He drilled it. Shout out to kickers. My favorite play is probably because,

it's such an indication of how dominant Bryce Perkins has been at times. And, you know, I said this on Rassillo's pod yesterday, seeing Bryce Perkins, who has lit the AC on fire offensively. Best quarterback we've had since Biscuit, probably. And now we'll go down as one of the most popular Virginia athletes in the history of the program. I mean, in my opinion, and I told him before the game, I said, if you win this one, you're a god.

And to me, he doesn't usurp Anthony Point Dexter maybe, but he's in that conversation with me now because this is one of the most impactful wins we've had athletically in the history of our program. And that includes championships because football, I believe, is a big driver. You can't do it if you can't win in state 15 times in a row. And then I think four preceding our last win in 03.

So what, 18 or the last 19? Yeah, 98 to 03, yeah. This feels like things are changing. I'm super excited about. There was a lot of great college football this weekend. Iron Bowl included. Iron Bowl was great. That game had everything.

Had it all. It had complaining coaches. Yeah. What do you make of that? They were, they're both sort of maniacal at times. Sabin, more likable to me than Gus Malzahn. It's wild. I mean, I just get a sense of...

Is it the mooncakes? Yeah, the con oatmeal cream pies that he eats. I don't know. I just feel like that's what you see from Nick is Nick. Is what you get. And what you see from Gus is PR. A little more car salesmanage. Yes.

Yes, indeed. And that is a business full of Ashley Schaefer's. That's right. I mean, it just absolutely is. And that is the hotbed for Ashley Schaefer. down in the southeast. But Bama is vanquished. The nation size of collective sigh relief.

And we'll see what happens. Gambling news this weekend. You want to stay on something. Did you have a nice Thanksgiving? Oh yeah, we should talk about Thanksgiving. And thank you for asking. First off, did you? Yes.

Is there evidence? Oh, yeah. So I make pumpkin pies. every year, including this one for the viewers. That has a V-saber carved into it by yours truly. That's also my first ever IG story. Can it be a story if you just do one video? You never do, you never do the IG stories, do you? That's my first ever. I put twisted sister behind it. We're not going to take it anymore in these sabers into the pumpkin pie. People always ask, wow, that looks really good. How'd you do that? Do they always ask that? And I tell them with my

finger and they sort of recoil a bit. Especially when you're rolling in with a sinus infection, which is cleared. And then I say, nah, that's the back of a spoon. That's done with the back of a spoon. But please check out the YouTube channel to see that handywork. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Check us out. That's a beautiful pie.

By the way, off topic, I had a long day yesterday, rough day. My wonderful wife, Meg, again, second shout out of the show. also allowing me to go to Charlotte to see the game. You'll be in the house. I will be in the house with the boys. A lot of guys going down there to see us. Upset Clemson. And she last night was thoughtful enough to order me a key lime pie

with takeout last night. Oh, from Maya restaurant. Terrific restaurant. Shout out to Maya. Yeah. But I want to know where you think key lime pie ranks in the pantheon of pies. Wow. Key lime pie, easily a top 10 pie, key lime pie, fringe top five pie, key lime pie like a number five pie.

Yeah. Behind who, whom? Whomphs? Um, I wish I had more time on this. Yeah. I really do like, I really do like a pumpkin pie. I like an apple pie. We can rank the pies another day,

but my point would be, and I haven't made it yet, which is that key lime pie is fucking elite. I agree. And it's also the biggest curveball out of any of the pies that are prominent. I mean, key lime pie has something different to bring to the dance. It's tart.

I love it. And Maya makes a great key lime pie. Thanksgiving was very good, thank you very much. My observation, now that I've had a Thanksgiving free from football, is that it is probably the best holiday. Oh, welcome again. Yeah. And now you sprinkle in some Commonwealth Cup or in and around it.

Rivalry weekend, terrific. One thing I will say, I have a theory about American holidays. I know not all of these are just American holidays, but Thanksgiving, Christmas, 4th of July. What are they all having common? Well, drinking for most folks. But I would say a crescendo that is, long awaited and quickly over.

Kids feverishly tearing apart the presence, like packs of wild dogs that don't give a shit about anything but the presence. They've waited for months. The disappointment when you get socks as an adult. I like socks. That was a bait. I know you were actually just,

before we started the pod commenting on how cool my socks are, we know what to get making. Here's users or listeners out there, users of the pod, please send us the coolest socks. I'll put the address where you can send your socks for making. That'd be great. We'll do a making gunner sock drive. Shoes size 12.

We're not going to do shoes. That's asking a lot of the viewers. Sometimes you need the shoe size to get a sock that's the right size. Yeah, that's true. But I would say this. Fireworks on Fourth of July, Turkey and food on Thanksgiving. over so fast. Yeah, New Year's Eve literally has a heart out, but I guess you have that runway of New Year's

Day to enjoy it. Yes. Yeah, okay. I don't know what it means about us. Yeah, that's a point. It's not a very interesting point. Oh, it's interesting to me. I mean, you eat in five minutes and it's like a 48-hour production.

Yeah. I guess I've always experienced it. I never had time to really reflect. That's my reflection. Thanksgiving's elite. All our holidays have a long buildup to a quick finish. I wanted to talk about gambling this weekend. He's had another terrific weekend.

Your boy is NBA Jam on fire. He's heating up. I'm Dan Marley in the corner, looking improperly scaled on a tiny TV, draining unrealistic threes, even for Thunder Dan. That's me on the books right now. But an NFL player got popped this weekend.

Josh Shaw, he's on IR with the Cardinals, suspended at least through 2020 for placing a three-team parlay bet at Caesar's November 10th. The funniest thing about this, I don't know if it's funny, is that he bet against his team in the second half against the Bucs and then lost. The Bucs came back to win, I believe. Yeah, I think the Bucs were winning at halftime,

won the ball game, but they were something like plus or minus one in the second half, and they didn't cover that. So listen, he listed professional football player as his occupation on the sports book paperwork. That's a mistake. I'm not a gambler. Since when do you have to list your occupation

at a sports book? I don't know. I don't know. And I've been to some sports books. Obviously never placed a bet on the NFL. Not only do I just think it's just out of line, but you're going to get caught, buddy. especially when you cash in the ticket yourself from what I hear. Yeah, speaking of buddy, get a buddy.

Yeah, get a buddy, get a fall guy. Pal, I've got a hot tip on my squad in the second halfs of games. Yeah, yeah. Just maybe don't bet on your own team in a three-team parlay. I wonder how much money, though, was on that ticket. That's the biggest question that has been unanswered for me. And how dumb do you have to be to hand somebody a ticket with your name on it? I don't know if he didn't know the rules.

I don't know if there's, you know, I don't know if he thought that he's so far removed. It's certainly not like a player who's playing on Sunday. But it's a bad look. You know, being on IR, I know you can feel removed from the team. You've got to know better. But the NFL now with legalized gambling and stuff, they're going to run into more and more of these problems.

Yeah, they're in the gambling business. Well, they always have been. And that's the thing. They've always had gambling in their DNA, whether it was the Roonies and the, would you say Maras? Yep. Stickler for pronunciation here. Those guys were like, they kept book back in the day, the originals, the OGs.

I think one of them parlayed like, no pun intended, a nice day at the racetrack. I think it was Rooney and bought the Steelers with that. I think he just went on a tear at the racetrack. That's a big day. And bought the Steelers. And then I think Mara was just a bookmaker, man. and I think he bought the Giants for $50. Huh.

That he made gambling, I believe. So since the beginning, there's been a long line of gambling issues, and there's been owners involved in Draft Kings, Kraft, and who else? Oh, Jerry, Jera. They own part of Draft Kings, only 5%. But, you know, twice now, you know, Ramos had his fantasy football convention

just completely moved because of classed with the NFL. and sponsorship issues and that sort of thing. So you're going to see this landscape now where we're going to run into more and more of these problems, these intersections of the game and the game that's being bet on as well. In 1963, Paul Hornung... Con.

Golly, you've got to come better than that. I know you know how to pronounce Mr. Hornig's name. It was worth a try. And Alex Karris, I believe that, is how that name is pronounced in actuality. We're suspended for a year for gambling. And this was news to me. I'm not that much of a historian,

but it turned out to be a Pete Rose style thing. They were betting on their own teams, but it came out in the beginning that they were just betting. And Roselle, the commissioner at the time, stepped up because they were doing this AFL merger. Broadcasting was coming into play. So they had to make a big example out of these guys.

Now, I think a punishment of just through 2020, is kind of lenient. This is the guy who's relatively expendable, no disrespect. I mean, most of us are, but definitely a guy who's on IR that isn't like a star in the league. If you're the NFL, don't you make an example of this guy? Through 2020, though? I don't know, man.

I'm not saying needs to be a lifetime ban, but he kind of walked into this thing. Fourth round pick, it'll be 28 in March. That's going to be 29 years old, the following season. His career is effectively over. Yeah. So example made, I don't know.

But for a guy who's younger and in his prime, betting on a team, a year and two months, probably not enough is the way I'm looking at it. Swayed you? No. Am I just winning a ton of bets or am I the tease god, bro? Since I found out about teasers, it all started one day when somebody was like,

hey, if you don't like that line so much, you can just tease it. I said, what the hell is that? You pick two teams or two lines or two over-unders, and some of you real gamblers out there are probably listening. He actually doesn't really know what a teaser is. He's just been winning them. I am 12, 2-and-1 on teasers in the last three weeks.

And to finish the explanation, you match up different lines and they're adjusted by six points. So like, for instance, last night, I didn't need to do it, and this is part of the problem. Am I actually just winning a ton of individual bets? selling myself short. Because last night I took the Seahawks like plus two and a half

and the over at like, what was it, 41. So I nailed both of those, but I would have nailed the actual lines. Anyways. So I'm killing it with the teasers. I don't know if it's luck. I don't know if this is a trend,

but Vegas, you're in trouble. I don't know if I get like snuffed out for calling out Vegas. I think they send some assassin. with a long silencer right here in the chalk studios. You and I speak freely. Yeah. I remember a time a couple months ago where I was afraid to even check in on you

following Dallas Cowboys New York Jets. Yeah, that was bad. So I think these things ebb and flow. They do. You're on a heater. I think you stay in the T's God Lane. Yeah, that's, that's, don't get a big head. That's my lane, bro.

But it's gonna, it'll, it'll come back. But for Vegas is going to be like death by a thousand cuts, like, you know, paper cuts. Yeah. And if you're feeling a little paper cut, Vegas, that's just me. Slice. Slice. Slice. T's God.

Veteran gamblers have mixed feelings. A study that took the NFL games from 01 to 11 said that sports books come out on top for six to seven point users, which is what I specialize in the last three weeks. And the away team and the over pays out more than the home in the under. Another thing is, though, that would lend you to believe that it's not just a heater. I'm just good at this. I was 6 and 0 this weekend. On the green light pod picks.

On the green light pod picks. Nice. San Francisco and 6. Wow. Yeah, big development. Oh, boy. Yeah, he was calling you mush making. Was he really?

Yeah, I'm not trying to start static between friends of the program, but And I kind of perpetuated that by joking that the day you missed, I did a Bronx Tale thing. Put you in the closet because you were picking bad games. That was a joke. He was supposed to drop the joke, but now he's calling you mush making. It's not the first time I've been called that either. Yeah, really? A mush, yeah.

That's mean and not fair because I've had some locks of the week in various boxes this season that have been really successful. Oregon State, that was one this weekend that we didn't talk about for once I picked a peck 12 game correctly UVA money line had Auburn had Buffalo Green Bay under and I'm really proud of this one since I should have put them I should have done the money line but I can't bet against my friends in New York shout out to Joe Douglas big fan of his so it feels weird for me to bet against the Jets let's do shit I saw real quick it's going to be quick wrap rapid fire. Can we look at UVA rushing the field? And by the way, we might have got it wrong

against FSU earlier this year. We made up for it by rushing the field after a 39-30 win in the Commonwealth Cup. I mean, that's a thing of beauty. Yeah, you have the as soon as the final play is over, students, fans jumping over walls, running down the hill. Didn't see anybody not stick the landing. No. And you have full field coverage within seconds. student body makes sense because the athletic program is very good looks very game of thronesy

I was very proud I was too and then we have Auburn fans this girl yeah look at the guy holding the branch

like it's fucking Lord of the flies home girl just disappears into that hedge look at her face is she really crying I'm sure they've had hedges

is that Jordan hair? Yeah. Is that how you say it? Spelled Jordan, pronounced Jordan. Makes no sense. For a while, I thought Georgia just had the rights to hedges on your field.

Am I the only one who watched the game and I'm like, it's just occurring to me that I can pay more attention? Like, what's going on with the hedge imitation thing? Who's imitating who? Right. And you saw the two,

it might have been, she might have been one of them. Yeah. but the two older women. Older women that were wading through the hedges. Yeah. Good online content regarding that screen grab. Oh.

Saw there might be a couple bottles of Chardonnay buried somewhere in that hedge if they were going after. If the hedges could talk, like what's going on in the hedges? Yeah. And why does anybody think after watching everybody sink completely into the hedge that you would just free fall? I guess you don't have another choice, but I'm for sure doing the,

I'm deathly afraid of this ladder I'm climbing down style ascension, descension. Well done. Scott Stadium used to have not only a hedge of sorts in that end zone, but also a beautiful chain link fence there in that end zone.

Yeah, that's not good. That's Baylorish. Which led to multiple injuries when there was a field rush. So they got rid of both. that now just comes straight onto the field and it leads to beautiful videos like we saw. Best field rush in Virginia history

is at 95? Yeah. Clemson and 90. You're totally overlooking 06. 06, yeah. Who did we get? Half as you semi-holes. Kahn, 05.

Oh, sorry I have the years mixed up. Yeah, I was on that team, so didn't remember what year it was, but we beat him in 05. They were ranked number three. Ernie Sims was running up and down the sideline talking shit to our recruits. And that was, that was, you can't talk to our recruits like that?

No, we'll, we'll have Marcus Hagan go off on you. Only we can talk to our recruits like that. Exactly. So, wrapping up week, what was it? 13, week 13, week 13, week. Unlucky week, the number 13 for one guy in particular

in our fantasy, Football League. Do you want to paint a picture of, I don't want to use the word climax, the climax of the fantasy football season, which happened last night. Good straight face there. Loser of our league gets his hair dyed, frosted tips. Yes. And it came down to two folks, Kevin Baghekew of Virginia Cakes 311, and Matt Conrath of Team Conrath.

creative name again and it was basically winner Frosted Tips for Matt Conrath last night came down to Monday night a guy going for each club at least what? Why are you looking at me like that? No I'm waiting because it's so funny dude

this is insane you can't make this shit up Seville Witt great names in this league ends up coming out on top 141.5 to 140.2 now he's playing Conrath Conrath our guy. So backy's sitting.

Backy just has to watch. Right. Right. Conrath wins. Backy gets tips. Conrath loses. Conrath gets the tips. Now, Conrath went with Stefan Diggs

on advice from some folks. Yours truly. Yeah, when he could have gone, DeKaff Metcalf. Now, here's the deal. You know, there was some, there's multiple group texts going on right now. You know, there's all sorts of

back channels communicating with each other. And there's a group text between myself, Kevin Backey and Matt Conner, two guys who were in the running for the frosty Guy Fierry joints. And first off, I offered them, I thought, very graciously, hey, one of you guys wants to come on the show

and get your tips died. We'd love to have you. I think they're on the fence. No, I think Conrad has all in, based on the text message this morning. Okay. I think we should allow him to wait until after the holiday. So I'm really trying to help Matt Conrath

because I know that as somebody who oversees the implementation of surgical devices in serious settings, like life or death settings, I'd hate for him to have dyed tips and not be able to wear a hat. Maybe they can wear some sort of a hat. You know, it's scrubs and hat. But, you know, when you take the hat off,

people at work know that you're possibly, possibly enduring a midlife crisis or... It's the Geico commercial. I believe you don't like Geico commercials. Not into him. But it's the doctor who comes in and says, well, sort of. Are you nervous?

Me too. Well, I'll see you in there. That's going to be Conrad. That's Conrath. He looks like a cover band for, you know, who's the band that did, Hey, Now You're an All-Star? Smash Mouth.

He looks like he's in Smash Mouth. with these dyed tips. Yeah. And so I'm trying to help him naturally because the fuck do I care of, Kevin Bakke goes into one of his many fine establishments with died tips. I mean, it's good for business.

This pod will drive business into these already thriving empires he's built. Right. And so I'm trying to help Matt, and I'm like, you've got to start digs, man. You never know with Metcalf. You just never know, Decaf Metcalf. Yeah.

This is on the advice of James, go, the smartest fantasy guy. I know a guy who I'm on Thursday night football with Amazon Prime every week, and James says, he's got to go with Diggs. And then what happens? Conrath loses by 1.3 points, and you might remember,

Vikings got that last kickoff back with about 21 seconds and fumbled it away. Had they taken a couple shots, one sideline shot, probably going to Diggs, One of the two to three shots and one completion would have done it for Matt Conrath. That's why fantasy football is king, bro. That's awesome.

And that's coming from somebody who didn't set his lineup for weeks on end. Yeah, big shout out to Chris Long of Team Long. Fewest points scored in the league this year, my brother. We were all about defense. Yeah, yeah. By 3.2 points, Conrath comes in second to last four points. Kind of like the playoff thing, you know, the division winner and the wild card. Right.

I'm kind of, yeah, I'm like the NFC East. Yes, you're that eight and eight division winner who skates by without tips. The rules are the frigging rules, dude. Yeah. Monday Night Football, Real football last night. So we will hopefully have Big Matt Conrath in to talk football, a bunch of things that we'll sell as an opportunity to rant about whatever he wants to. But really, it's we want him to die.

tips on the pod. Yeah, and any central Virginia hairstylists out there. That's doing died tips. At Joel 9-1, at Chalk Media. Yep. Holler. We'd love to have you. Last night was a battle of two elite quarterbacks.

Captain Kirk. Captain Kirk almost was Captain comeback last night for a second there. And I had to watch this game on a direct TV signal that was drunk. on gas station liquor, as I put it. My DirecTV box just guzzled one of those bottles behind next to the chewing tobacco. Probably two pints. I couldn't even, it was like play, lag, play,

so forgive me if any of my analysis is off. I figured out that in the third and fourth quarter I could watch on my computer. Hadn't done that in a long time. You had Booger and Tess? Oh, God. Yeah, we did. you had you had decaf metcalf which was the highlight of my my tessitore night

highlight of his career no come on like let's not be i'm not being harsh i'm enjoying the entertainment that is and i've said this before whoever takes the monday night football job you are taking it's a trojan horse it looks like the coolest thing ever it's not the coolest thing ever. You're just going to be a part of the shit show. If you're good at it, you're good at it. Gruden is what I will say. Gruden. Sure. I love Gruden. Are you going to talk about Russ miced up?

I will talk about Russ micd up, but we did have decaf, mecalf, and Joe's like, he's just struggling to get the word. Decaf, decaf, McCaff, McCaff, D.K. Metcalfeck. And not a word. Like, Bougar didn't bust his balls, which would have took the edge off. Yes. Just take the edge off. edge off. You made a mistake. My man Collinsworth would have said,

Sherlock caffeinated to me there, Joe. We got Bougar talking about it. I hope to see his package expand. He said that. Also, Tessitore, he was, of course, talking about Schottenheimer's play calling abilities. He also, Tessitore is a big fan of momentum.

Where are you on momentum? Is that a real thing? Oh, yeah. Okay. Some people don't think it's a real thing. Nah. So Tessator is not off there. I'm pro momentum. Oh, you're pro momentum.

Yeah. I hate to say it and I'm afraid to say it. I kind of think it exists. Yeah. It wasn't Kirk's fault. Listen, they scored 30 points on the road in Seattle against one of the best three teams in the league, as we'll get to in a second.

Ann Harris scored some of those points. Yes. Ann Harris scored seven of those points with a pick six and he wasn't the only guy with a pick six this weekend from UVA. Safety you? Juan Thornhill, that's right. Yeah. So listen, he goes up there.

I kind of felt robbed of two drives the last two weeks, the DAC drive in New England, the tripping calls. And then, yeah, like listen, credit to Seattle for getting a stop. When you're up there, playing late in the season, I've seen that movie a bunch of times it gets definitely loud you know all I see is a bunch of coffee chugging

hipsters and Pacific Northwest people just that stadium there's like a conspiracy they pipe in noise I think it's just architecturally brilliantly designed it's the coolest looking stadium it's amazing and I've seen that movie a bunch where there's one big play it gets too loud the coverage is too tight

and of course I saw this during Legion of Boom and something underneath they knock it down there's just no space and that's what it was on fourth and three he got the ball tipped on third and three or was it third and six or whatever it was the fourth down and then he's throwing in tight coverage

there was nobody open there so like I'm not going to shit on Kirk on that last drive there wasn't a lot there I felt robbed of maybe an opportunity to see the drama that would have mounted if he got down the field. I felt the same way about Dak in New England. Listen, they came out hot.

First drive, you got jet sweep. You have a fullback going for like 30 yards. You finish with a cook touchdown on a toss and I can hear him saying, this shit's for real, this shit's for real. And I'm like, I believe it. Like, that's a hell of a first drive. But Seahawks, they just find ways to beat you.

and just as fun as they are to watch, they have just as many ways to beat you. And they're 10 and 2 with a plus 36 point differential, which is the lowest for a 10-win team through 12 games in history. I mean, and you could look at that as a positive or a negative. I saw somebody painting that as a negative. You know, hey, listen, they're not dominant.

Well, when you see a dominant team who hasn't beaten anybody or hasn't been in these dog fights, everybody's first thing is, well, they're not battle tested. This team is battle tested. That's not why I worry about them. By the way, the Saints are plus 50, and that's the fourth lowest in history. I know they're battle tested,

and especially if they slide into home field advantage here, the league needs to be on notice. They could end up in Miami. What I worry about with them is the four biggest games that they played against the best teams going backwards here. You've got the, you have the Vikings last night, you have the Niners, you have the Ravens, and then you have the Saints.

Those are four really big games they play. They've gone two and two in those games. They've given up a special teams or defensive touchdown in all those games. And if you play football in the NFL, the first statistics you need to know about is that when you give up a score to the other team unconventionally, your chance of winning goes way down. and coaches always harp on that. And to me, it's a miracle they won two out of those four games

against that quality of opponent. That's why I worry about them down the stretch. Chris Carson's fumbles, their self-destructive kind of tendencies that they win in spite of themselves, that's the stuff I worry about. I think they can beat anybody. And that's a team that outside of Russell Wilson,

I don't really know what their strength is. but they're fun to watch they had big big plays and big performances from guys that were stepping up last night on a night where Russ wasn't perfect you know I think about that that volleyball spike that went

that went awry and by the way you weren't a fan of his mic'd up either no he's brutal dude everything was let's go I mean he's keeping it brand conscious bro I see you boy he's just he's keeping it brand conscious

And his teammates are ignoring him. I mean, he's not a part of any celebration. It's loud. It's loud there. They couldn't hear him. The one awkward part was when the dudes were doing this great choreographed dance, which, by the way, it's terrific. Stunning.

Stunning dance. And you can't hear the music when the stadium's that loud. So, like, that's the amazing part. Andrew Hawkins had a tweet about that. And I can't dance. I think it's hard enough for me to imagine dancing. But on top of that, It's not like there's music to dance to.

The guy in the front is leading the show, and Russ runs in the middle. You've got your roof quarterback trying to mess it all up. He's a good teammate. Russell's just out there spiking the ball like a volleyball. And then Jess, Jess, Joe Tess, when he hears, let's go, said something to the effect of we are witnessing a master class in leadership

by Russell Wilson. Joe Tessitore would know. Listen, the way Russell Wilson has played all this year, I don't think it matters what he says guys are going to follow. And last night he wasn't on his A game. You know, there was the pick. There was the scramble out of the back of the pocket, which was almost inexplicable.

It lost 13 yards on that. Could have been a bigger deal. But they find ways to win. They got the fake punt, which helped alter the outcome of that game late. You've got the Trey Flowers pick was a big play. Clowny stepped up. He stepped up all year.

Rashad Penny, 36 carries through 12 weeks. The last two weeks, he has run for 302 yards on 29 carries and two touchdowns. And that's big with Carson's fumbling tendencies, which I mentioned. If you're Seattle, you're always nervous with him down the stretch in some of these big games,

the way he puts the ball on the ground. And it's good to have a guy like Penny step up. that calf stepped up, as we mentioned, because Lockett was targeted three times, no catches. So they get production in a bunch of different ways, and I think that while they might not have like a real strength outside of Russ, that's all you need and sometimes,

you know, not having a strength, if you don't have a glaring weakness, it can be even better. And I'm not sure what their glaring weakness would be other than their defense has been poor, but improved lately. Fourth most yards allow passing. So their defense has been poor, but improved lately.

If you look at them the past few weeks, they've done a better job. Now, last night, they were leaky in the end, and that's what they're going to have to work on, is if they get up big on one of these teams in the playoffs, especially at home, you have to be able to pin your ears back in rush and get production and help these guys out on the back end because that has been their weakness. I'm not ready to call it, like, glaring at this point.

I think if they get home field, again, that field is it's the 12th man. It really is. The 12th's. Yeah. I have a quick question. Yeah.

You don't know the answer to it. Does Sunday Night Football have the rights? Does NBC have the rights to player intros saying your name and your school or where you're from? I don't know. You don't see that anywhere else, do you? No. That's interesting.

Did you get to do that? I did. I used to say Wahua at the end. Oh, nice. Good. Yeah. Maybe started by Chris Canty. Chris Canty did it.

Yeah. He played a lot more prime time games than me. Yeah. I'd get that about once every three years in St. Louis. Yeah. Power rankings, they suck. ESPN has it right now. Ravens won, San Francisco, two,

Pat's three, New Orleans, for Seattle Five. I don't like it. I hate it less than you do. What do you hate the most? Well, I just, I know you're going to scream about the Pats. Would you disagree? I mean, they, listen, they're good football team.

They do one thing very well. They have a glaring weakness, though, and that's the entire offense right now in the receiving core outside of Edelman. Yeah, they'll get Dorset back. I mean, I know that's not Antonio Brown. It's not Rob Grancowski. the only conceivable reason to have them at three for me. And by the way, mine goes, Ravens, Saints, Hawks, Niners, Chiefs, Pat's Six.

I say that because I feel like one team at six is trending down. The Chiefs are trending up and they're getting healthy. I think that with the Pats, their good wins are at Buffalo, right? Which is looking better lately. It's against the Eagles and the Cowboys, who have been laughing stocks lately. So you can't shit all over the NFC East and then tout the Pats as the third best team

when two of their three wins against teams, well, Eagles don't have a winning record, Dallas doesn't have a winning record, Buffalo's it. Yeah. They gave up 37 and 28 in double-digit losses basically to two winning teams with athletic quarterbacks on the road.

And I know it wasn't a double-edged. double digit loss, what I'm saying is that game was a 17 point loss. I mean, they caked it on late, but that wasn't, that was not a competitive game. And they're gonna play probably more athletic quarterbacks on the road in the playoffs, and that's the biggest deal. I know that I saw Bart Scott got on TV this week and was like, well, they've never gone on the road

to win and end up in the Super Bowl. That's not true. I mean, big road win last year, just as early as last year. But what they haven't done, since I think 2006 is the Patriots have not beaten a team in the playoffs who they lost to that same regular season since the Jets in 2006. And I think they're like five and six against such teams,

which means that like all that production that soften that statistic that everybody brought up or I brought up after the Baltimore game, all those wins, all that evidence is 15 years ago. And so I know there's relevance, Bill and it's Tom, but these are two totally different teams. And I would say this team, while you could still win a Super Bowl, they could certainly make a run. They look more like the teams that couldn't get over the hump in

that sandwiched the Seattle Super Bowl win. And the Chiefs and Bills remain. They could go two and two down the stretch. And the Bills are game back. The Bills have Baltimore, Pittsburgh, New England, the Jets, head-to-head. Division records. you can see how this thing shakes out,

but like this could go south and I'm not saying the Patriots are done, I'm not that guy, but I don't think it's disrespectful with their recent struggles offensively and defensively. On the back end the other night to say they probably aren't a top five team right now.

And isn't that what the power rankings are? Like power rankings should be, in my opinion, who's playing the best right now combined with their future, possible future outcomes? And the future outcomes for me, me, there's a lower ceiling on the Pat's future outcomes if they don't have home field throughout. Because they're going to have to go back on the road to beat Baltimore. There's no way around it. I'm just, that's just, I could be dead wrong in a month. Things could go really sideways and

they have to go back on the road to play the, uh, the Texans too. Yeah, what did you think about a corner on James White and doubling Edelman? I loved it. I thought, uh, Romero did a great job. I think, you know, when James White, who is one of your best receivers, essentially, and that's the onus is up to even more because of the lack of production elsewhere and everybody saw Brady's outburst on the sideline and whatnot, like, I thought that was a brilliant plan.

And to take Jules out of it, you know, their only big play was to Jules, but it was like on first and 30. Yeah. You know, that was emblematic of their struggles. I mean, like, three steps backwards for one big step forward, and that's just not going to get it done.

There were so many things that happened to that game. I talked about it yesterday on the pod with Vassilo that were uncharacteristic from Landon Roberts on the angle route holding to guys running behind the quarterback, Winovich, to missing a sack, like John Simon missed the sack on a play that kept the drive alive, and number 70s sitting there asking for the hold, you know, he's getting killed in meetings with Bill,

the pick, you know, the route, the throw. So all this stuff was just so uncharacteristic of the Pats. So no disrespect to them. I just don't think they're in the top five. And of course, the Hawks have the head-to-head against the Niners. I think they're going to maintain that head-to-head. I think they're going to beat them again. And I don't think the Niners want to see them ever again.

And the Chiefs are getting healthy at the right time. Ravens and Saints, I have the Saints very high. It's mainly because I trust Drew Brees and Sean Payton, and they have a record to justify them being there. Remember what I told you a few weeks back? It's still week 14. That and San Francisco. Play for that tie, Kyle.

Yeah. Could have been 8-0 and 1. It was a hot take at the time, but it looks kind of not too bad now. If you're comping them to college teams, I'll go first. I got the Patriots as Bama. You know, the entire country doesn't want to see them in.

great head coach neither team has a kicker at the moment neither team has a kicker at the moment uh four bath extra point that was a big deal i mean like that stuff you just don't see uh and they only have one good win like i said against a team with winning a winning record and that's the bills uh... Bama had a little bit of that going on this year as well so

I think they're my Bama comp. Another interesting thing about them is you think of the Patriots traditionally, you think about that explosive offense, you think about Bama, but you think about both sides of the ball, but you think physical, you think SEC, you think defense, that's not the way it is anymore. And the problem with Bama is not Tua as much as it is their defense. And the problem with the Patriots is actually that offense, that, you know, for guys like me who grew up and saw you and I, the days of Randy Moss and Welker and blah, blah, blah,

and even a couple years ago when I was there and we won a Super Bowl, this offense is not the same. And I feel for Tom because this is his swan, you know, if these last couple years

are really meaningful to him, he's kind of been, you know, left out to dry, personnel-wise. Who do you have, I got the Ravens as LSU. Burrow is like a god right now. Lamar's like a god right now.

They've got two explosive, awesome OCs. There's an excellent. excitement, past favorites are back in the party. Purple. You buying that? Yeah. Purple. Yeah. That's my contribution.

I got KC as Clemson. It's a high-flying team last year, started slow, and they're peeking at the right time, and they're slept on. Now, obviously, the difference is that Clemson hasn't lost until coming up here. Yeah, and arguably your best player is your quarterback, Trevor Lawrence. Explosive also had a lull at the beginning of the year. Of course, you can never sleep on my homes, and I wouldn't sleep on Lawrence either way it's shaped up.

Fuck, I don't say the Hawks are Oklahoma. I have no idea, because I have no idea what to make of it. They're potentially dangerous. Well, this also isn't a thing. No, it's not a thing. Niners are Utah. Okay. Niners being Utah because I feel like at the same time,

Everybody is screaming that they're slept on. And that could be completely true, but I also don't think there's as good as people think they are. And those two things are not mutually exclusive. And that's no disrespect to the Niners, who, by the way, really need Richard Sherman to come back. I don't know how severe that injury is, but you're about to see two very good teams the next two weeks.

I'll give you all the money in my wallet. If you can name a Utah Ute. Moss. I'm going to need a full name. Zach Moss. Zach Moss? Yeah. Can you spell Zach?

Z-A-C-H. It's Z-A-C-K. Fuck, well, you didn't say that. I'm going to give you half the money in my wallet. That was good. No, that was good. Appreciate it. I didn't think you would get one.

Thank you. Also, one of my favorite coaches. Kyle Whittingham. Awesome, awesome. Seems like an awesome guy. You know, you know somebody through the TV to me. He just seems like quality human being. We need to tread lightly.

Coach Bronco, Mendenhong Company. Don't love the Utah News. They don't get along? Right. Is it outside of that rivalry? Well, I think there are a lot of layers to that rivalry. I think it's called the Holy War for a reason. And Bronco has said as much, actually.

Gotcha. Well, he seems like an okay guy to me. I'm not going to let my biases slant my intuition on that one. Let's go with some quick hitters. Did you see the Jerry Jones quote? No. It basically said that he bets that Jason Garrett will be coaching in the NFL next year. Wow.

Which is like, I hope you'll find love. Yeah. I mean, that's rough. That part of a paragraph long quote about how he believes in Jason says a lot more than the first five sentences. Look forward to seeing Jason roaming the MetLife sidelines next year. Do you think that's what's happening? No, I don't.

I don't think Pat Schumer will be back. It's unfortunate because I like Pat Schumer. You don't like them. No, I like him fine. I had actually played when Pat was coaching with the Rams and he is a real dude. I actually think they're closer than you might think. We'll get to that in a bit.

Eagles and Panthers both lost as double-digit favorites and a money line parlay cost the guy $35 grand. They posted it on the interwebs. This cat was a lot like me before I learned how to gamble. He thinks money lines are safe. They are not safe. I would suggest a couple teasers for him. Josh McCown may never make the playoffs

if the Eagles don't slide in this thing. How many years? Like 19. Is that right? I think so. Great basketball player. Awesome dude. Deserves to be in the playoffs.

19 years. Playing a lot of gutsy quarterback for team. Spot starts and more, but might never make the playoffs. Fitzpatrick, Fitzmagic, 4 and O versus Jim Schwartz, 106.1 rating. Devante Parker all day long.

Who the Eagles should target in free agency if they were smart. There was a kick block against the Chiefs, right? Okay, so the over and under in this game was 49 points. It's 40 to 9 at the end of the game

Kansas City scores right Cat from the Raiders reaches up tips the ball push how awful is that probably the bad beat of the weekend

and I was going to see if you could pronounce his name I don't know if you could hop on your Google machine I don't I'm afraid to try to pronounce it you know Washington's still alive at 3 and 9 yeah they won't be after this weekend

no the ironic part about all that is I can see all the things that need to happen happening for them, except for them winning. Right. Like that's it. James White had his career long 32-yard rush this weekend, which goes to show you how much of receiver he's been there. Who did?

James White. Yeah. That's insane. 32 yards, when the pads posted that on their Twitter, I was surprised. He's a guy that has big playability. they just don't give him the ball out of the backfield and that's how much a receiver he's been.

Belichick O'Brien Handshake. Did you see that? I did. I did. Quick. What do you make of that? Quick and it was an odd one. It wasn't that, hey, we're both standing up the 42

and it's a straight line handshake. No. Somebody rolled up on somebody else. I think it was O'Brien rolling up on Bill and Bill is really fast getting off the field. I will say that. Yeah. And Bill, he's a friend of the program.

He is. I'm just going to come out and say it. Bill has texted me nice things before. He's a very classy dude. After, you know... Clarify which Bill here. Bill Belichick. Yeah.

Yeah, you're right. Me and Bill O'Brien don't know each other. But Bill is... I'll call him a friend of the program. Me and him are totally cool. but after a preseason game one time, I tried to shake his hand and he did shake my hand, but I think he's like in the zone

when he's leaving the field, especially after a loss, that he's not thinking about shaking hands. Like that's just the vibe I get. I mean, he'll do it, but a lot of people were speculating it was the Casario thing, like Bill tried to steal,

or O'Brien tried to steal Casario. I think it just as easily could have been Bill just being a football machine, getting off the field. Gotta get back to New England, got to run these guys into the ground after that rough loss. The Bears could be the sixth seed in the playoffs. I saw that as well. If you've seen this,

the bears need to beat the Cowboys and the Packers, they need the Vikings to lose to the Lions and Chargers, and they need the Rams to lose the Hawks and the Cowboys. I could completely see, okay, in likelihood, the Vikings losing to the Lions seems low. I could see the Rams losing to the Hawks, I can see the Rams losing the Cowboys.

What I have a hard time seeing here is the Bears beating, the Cowboys and the Packers. But this looks way more possible than all the shit that happened that needs to happen in Washington. So to our friends in Chicago, there might be hope. There isn't. And hope is a dangerous thing.

You had a quick hitter of your own about kickers. Yeah. You're going to talk about kickers on, Friday. Saturday. Later in this week. You played with a few Greg Zerline. Yeah.

College. Hold on. Northern Iowa. Missouri Western State. One of those cornfield schools. You played with another Stephen Goscowski. College? Let's do...

Give me a conference. Oh, gosh. The American? I think it's probably like ball state or some shit. Memphis. Memphis. And finally, Jake Elliott, college. Oh, he's Central Florida.

Khan, Memphis. Memphis, sorry. Yeah, because the whole thing is that, yeah, Memphis, Central Florida, they play all the time. Nobody plays defense. That's all I have for you on kickers. All right.

We'll talk about Justin Tucker and the value of kickers later in the week. Shout out to the listeners, the backbone of this pod. We love the YouTube viewers, Those are you listening to this podcast the way it was intended, the purest form of podcasting. We appreciate you guys. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts so you don't miss a single episode.

I want to get to most embarrassing moments. This is a segment I'm excited about because I found a list that I compiled from a few years back. So these are all pre-2016. I'll update these at some point. But the most embarrassing moments of my life, I asked Macon to pull. pull a few and we asked Twitter for a few. Make, you want to go first? Sure.

I'll do my best to get out of the way quickly because your list is outstanding. And embarrassing. It is outstanding. When I was five, I pulled a fire alarm at an art museum in D.C. Fire department came as fire departments do. I had a fire department one too.

And I had to apologize to the firemen and women for pulling a fire alarm. you know this about me. I got a really close relationship with my stomach. Tend to get sick, which is a euphemism for just bombing all over the place, which I did in school all the freaking time, especially when it came to public speaking.

One time, not at St. Anne's, in Richmond, was to speak. and I was like, ah, before it started, just one second, I'm going to walk out these doors, bust open the doors, throw up all over a hallway as kids are rolling into the assembly, and somehow I avoided some sort of throw up nickname from doing that. But that continued. I mean, even our senior year before morning meeting, I would get a little sick, but I had a little routine in the men's room and the little boys' room just to deal

with my nerves. And it's all nerves. Yeah. And you haven't, you haven't blown chunks once this entire time. That's true. And this is way more nerve wrack

and we have at least a few thousand viewers and listeners. Yeah. As a shy kid, as an introvert, going by your middle name as I do, teacher on the first day of school

says your first name. Yeah. I don't correct. The person I just get really red in the face. And I'm a different name for the entire year because I can't tell people, nah. No, you know. Actually, it's making. Yeah.

Why did I never seen this? We weren't in a lot of the same classes. Yeah, I was in the higher ones, but the electives, if you will. Yeah. I tripped going up the stairs at the Greensboro Coliseum when I was about 10, popcorn, Coke, everywhere, people laughing, a lot of people laughing. I want to show you a picture of NRG Stadium. Yeah. Where you won a Super Bowl.

This was the Pat Super Bowl. And I was in Section 552. Yeah. What I did was I walked up to Section 652, thinking I was going to Section 552, hadn't been imbibing. It just really wasn't clear. So I'm sitting with random people, lovely couple from Rhode Island, cheering on the Pats. And I'm getting texts from Biscuit.

Marcus Hagan. Should be the Broils Award winner as best assistant coach in the country. Yeah, I was deducing that it was probably that. He was like, are you good? Like, every 10 minutes. Like, you good? Like, yeah, man, like, yes, I'm good. Like, go past.

You didn't realize you were supposed to be sitting with it. No. And then I cut, I, I, I half time used the facilities. You missed the first half? Yeah, I'm just with strangers. With the friends? With strangers. I didn't, I thought we all had.

separate tickets in different places of the stadium. So then I'm walking back and I look up and I'm like, oh, which was very embarrassing to me, roll to the right seat with Biscuit and the boys at 28 to 3. No. No, I'm not one of those guys. Okay. I didn't play a huge role, but that's when I found my... You did play a huge role.

That's when I found my seat. Yo, what is the Super Bowl? You're welcome. And embarrass yourself in the process. Last one. A few years ago, that's a picture of me. You're on all fours in front of the TV, which sounds terrible for the people listening. I'm on all fours in a black onesie.

Now, I have a stupid look on my face. This was... As one would to look like that. This was November 1st of 2016. and I was sending this to my lovely girlfriend, Kate, her mother and her sister, because they did not believe I had dressed up for Halloween. Now that's a cop out of a Halloween costume, but I was saying that I was a black bear. So I sent that text to those three with, quote, proof that I was a black bear last night for all the doubters and haters.

So send it to her. Not a candy guy either, are you? No, I'm not. So I sent it to her mom, to her sister, and I'm waiting to hear the ding on Kate's phone, and the ding never comes. So I'm like, you got your phone on you? She's like, yeah, it's right here. Nothing.

So I look at my phone. I had sent that picture of me on all fours with a dumb ass look on my face to a current client buying real estate in Charlottesville, Virginia. Like in the middle of a search for real estate, and she gets a text from her real estate agent, all fours, black onesie, proof that I was a black bear last night for all the dollars and haters. In front of a TV. Yes, in front of a TV. So. For all dollars and haters.

Did she buy the house? Yes, she did buy a house. And as soon as I could, I reached out to her apologizing, explaining. She was very understanding. What a tremendous real estate agent you must be. Yeah. Well, I know that. I don't go, I don't leave the house without a colored shirt because I'm worried about my brand,

you know, looking professional. And I'm out here sending. Sending black onesie pictures. What time of night was that? Night time. That makes it even worse. It was awful. But your list, mine doesn't compare to yours.

Yeah. This is in no. chronological order here. I want to start with 1997 school field trip. I have a roommate named Sid Perrek. They let us room with people. I think it was Sid.

Yeah. And there was a movie called Jade on TV. Okay. Jade has partial nudity scenes. If anybody's seen Jade from the 90s. So naturally it's on TV. I get out and go in the hallways and tell everybody that Jade is on TV. Most people don't know.

I'm knocking on the doors. So I get the whole field trip shut down because people are watching essentially what they thought was Skinnamax. But it wasn't Skinnamax. It was just Jade. There was a partial nudity scene. So I ruined the school field trip. I don't think there was one after that. Very embarrassing for your boy. 2006, Los Angeles loaded one. One inside of a squat bar in a very crowded gym in a hotel. 315 pounds of weights. This is when I was a lot stronger. Just clang against the glass, cracked glass.

Did not load the other side. Did not load the other side. That's amazing. 2014 Bahamas, 300-person wedding, Robert Quinn, Mr. Robert Quinn, Mrs. Christina Quinn. Thank you for the hospitality. but I am not appreciative of the the test grade of the wedding chairs.

It's a beach wedding, a fucking Atlantis in the Bahamas. With some big dudes. Big dudes. I'm not the heaviest. I am beyond hungover. This is back in the day when I used to really tie one on at night.

I was walking around that casino just wasted the night before. ripping heaters sigs i know this is a bad this is a bad little time in my life and um

during the wedding the next day i already have the sweats and they say you may now kiss the bride or whenever you sit down in a wedding i sit down and the chair just explodes ass in the sand legs in the air whole wedding stops uh everybody breaks their neck looking at me uh i struggled to get back on my feet and put the chair back together. And I actually tell them, no, keep going.

It was that awkward of an interruption. 2008, St. Louis, I nearly killed a guy with the first pitch. Yeah, this is my rookie year. I go to throw the first pitch out for the St. Louis baseball cardinals. Big deal, you want to ingratiate yourself to the city, do good stuff at a baseball game. One would be throwing a strike, so I'm meeting with the catcher before I warmed up in the bullpen the whole nine. and I ask the catcher any tips,

he goes, throw it hard and don't bounce it. Just do that. Yep. So I'm like, okay, I'm in. That's all I got to do. I sail the pitch at about 82 miles an hour. Over the cat's head, it hits it nearly two feet from striking a World War II veteran

that they're recognizing. There's only so many around anymore. They're very special people. Almost struck one in the temple. The ball hit that brick. backstops so hard that it rolled to first base. There's got to be video of that somewhere. I'd like to find it.

As an adult, I've run out of gas five to seven times, various places. I know that. Barracks Road. Actually flirted with that the other day. I know that about you. Yeah. For myself, for the record. 2016, at a nice restaurant for our anniversary,

I backhanded my water, reaching for the bread, and it got all over my wife. 2014 Charlottesville drove off with the gas thing attached Bel Air Market That's called a pump Pump Well I didn't take the whole pump with me Just the nozzle and the thing attached to it Yeah

Which is they do a great job nowadays Of mitigating that risk It's like a tear away rim It's nothing but the moment that you drive off Of one of those things connected to your car You almost feel like you should just keep fucking driving Yeah Did people

Well the problem was I was just in line Nobody mocked me But I had just talked to I took a picture with some kids I was doing the mayor thing And then I walk out Smile wave Hop in the car

Just take the whole fucking pump with me You know they got a picture of that too That's probably a side by side I'd love to find it We do have a sandwich with the nice people At Bel Air Market I'm sure they have a CCTV copy of that 2015 in Vegas

This is one that you would So I'm out late And Virginia plays the next morning It's Michigan State I believe it was a sweet 16 Can you NC2A tournament Yeah

That would have been round of 32 Round of 32 The year you're talking about The year I'm talking about And believe me I watched the Virginia games I was just in a very disoriented state in Vegas I set my alarm for the wrong time zone

I wake up in my room Turn on the TV I'm like I'm going to order some room service It's going to be a nice little day. We're going to watch us win. I turn on the TV, there's, we're fouling. The game's over. So in a confusion, I go to thank Akeel Mitchell on Twitter for a great season.

Can you tell us the problem with Akeel Mitchell? Sure. Akeel Mitchell had graduated the year prior. Oh. Yeah. There were a lot of athletic big men on that team. That was a great. club yeah so that was my problem 30 and 4 easy to you know to forget that Akeel

Mitchell had been gone for an entire season or set your alarm for the wrong time zone it was just a bad day 1990 my dad's hero charlton heston met my pops my dad took me to a movie premiere or something in l. i mean i was very young so i get to meet charlton heston maybe i'm maybe it's 92 maybe i'm six seven years old and the first thing i say to him is you were great in Spartacus. What's the problem there? I believe Kirk Douglas was Spartacus. Yeah. I'm sure that was very embarrassing for my dad, not the only time my dad's

ever been embarrassed by. You know, Charlton's an interesting name. Yeah, I mean, I know a Charlton. Hmm. Yeah, he's a southern gentleman. Okay. That's how I picture all Charlton's. Yeah.

And they don't say it with the hard tea, it's Charlton. You know what I mean? Yeah. 192, Los Angeles. I scored a basket on the wrong basket in my basketball league. And that same year we picked up and moved. Or a calendar year later. Completely across the country.

I think I told my parents we needed to move. Yeah. 1994, City League playoffs, more basketball heartbreak. I get there at halftime. Now is that on you? Is that on... I don't want to throw my mom under the bus. Yeah, it was kind of on the transportation.

Okay. I wasn't good news. City League, I wasn't a key player. Right. I wasn't, you know. Bad news, you were the glue guy. I was the glue guy. And the club lost the ball game.

We did lose the ball game. 1996, this is one of the worst. And this is legitimately sad. This is 96. I'm 11 years old, I think it was. We're playing Barracks Road. The Elks Club is playing Barracks Road in Little League Baseball.

I have a dead bat. This is about the time the bat started to get really, really good. Live. Yeah, live. And I've got one that's two, three years old. My family's not a baseball family. My dad played hockey on concrete. Like there was no baseball in Charlestown.

So he's not going to know what a dead bat sounds like, but my coaches should have said. So I had dead bat for like three years. So I finally hit a dinger, right? Run around the bases. My first little league. home run. Ecstatic.

Stomp on home plate, I'm mobbed. I go back to the dugout. I got my big league chew, my cow tails. I'm looking at my parents in the stands and thumbs up. Great job. And I'm like, thanks, mom and dad. Yeah. I see the umpire meeting with my head coach,

my umpire or my manager. I don't know if you call them managers in Little League. Sure. There's a conference. Chris Miller. There's a conference. something is awry the

batter is out he did not touch home plate Bruce Maxa at 11 years old Bruce Maxa shout out to Bruce Maxa this is the power of forgiveness I have forgiven Bruce Maxa

it took me a long time but I forgave him I see him around town from time to time I wouldn't call him a friend of the pod yeah I think I touched home plate and I don't think it matters if I didn't. I was 11 years old.

That was embarrassing, kind of sad. That is sad. In 1999, Charlottesville, I pleaded to get the ball in JV football. I took a hand off on a, like, kind of a stretch play and tripped over my own feet in the backfield. I never got the ball again. 1990, Los Angeles, pooped in my friend's pool and blamed on the dog. And I will always remember that moment where. me with my, I don't know if I had floaties.

I want to think I had floaties and I was young enough to have floaties here. But I was a solid four or five years old and I pooped in the pool. And I don't know if anybody listening out there has ever committed that mortal sin, but I did it as a child. And I watched that thing float, come out of my little swim trunks and just float like a buoy over towards the hot tub. And I was like, oh, fuck in my kid brain. I was just like What am I going to do? And I see that thing

Kind of settle in the corner So the next time I go over to my friend My friend's house Mike Chalf and he was my best friend We're in the hot tub And And I said something To try to cover my tracks

I said Do you remember the last time I was over? Yeah the dog pooed in the pool It was the weirdest thing And the dad called me on it You didn't get caught that day I think it floated in the corner and we were done swimming soon and I just didn't speak of it.

Wow. So the dad called me on. He goes, no, no, no. He goes, the dog didn't poo in the pool, but I know a little boy who pooed in the pool. And I'll never forget that I've never felt smaller in my life. And I probably would have approached it the same way. Honesty is the best policy. 2016 Shultz.

You lied. Yeah, I was five. Yeah. What wasn't I lying about a five? Yeah, you were being dishonest. You blamed it on a dog. Fuck the dog is the dog still here 1990

Nah Unlikely Very unlikely Dog was a smaller dog too Wasn't a big fan of the dog Uh 2006 Charlottesville lecture hall What?

No nothing go ahead Fucking dog always used to look at me funny He's the first Thing that was going to get blamed for shitting in the pool Lecture Hall large 300 people Towering Lecture Hall. I was always in class.

Probably 101. My ringer elitist. My ringer goes off very loud. It's a millionaire. Nice. That was very embarrassing. And then in 2013 I took a picture for

rivals.com. You know the picture. Oh, I know well. I procured a I was a diesel kid. That was like a solid 250, but I had to do my rivals picture. And back in the day. Nowadays, the kids do highlight videos. They do huddle all this stuff. I mean, you have, you have the commitment shows. All we had was take the most badass head tilt rivals picture.

You couldn't. Me being a private school kid. And the knock on me was I was a private school kid. We had to tough up the picture. So I got my friend Jeff Haas, who's a neighborhood adult to get his massive F-350, park it in the driveway. I got an A shirt. Oh, I would have said that. That was your... Bronco? No, it wasn't the Bronco. And I posed in front of it. Actually, I posed in front of Package Depot.

So I did this in a public parking lot. For the viewers, you can see the picture right here. It is me in an A shirt at 18 or 19 years old. You're in an A shirt? That is an A shirt. My traps were just enormous. Four stars. I might not know what an A shirt is.

I don't want to say what it is. Okay. Yeah. It has another name. Yeah, WB. Right, okay. Not a thing to joke about. I thought you were talking about Oakland Athletics and I was confused.

No, I was in an A shirt. Okay. I was in the shirt that every mobster wore in the 40s in Little Italy. I hate to say this. With suspenders. I'm probably not going to say this. What? I can't decide if I'm going to say this right now.

Okay. Was it one of these? Yeah, you got one on. I'm currently wearing one. I'm currently wearing it under your college shirt for the listeners. Which I do. And he just exposed it. It's tucked in.

Kind of a throwback here. There you go. It is tucked in to his khakis. Who looks more normal? Me or the guy in this photograph? Oh, well shit.

This is the problem. Chris Longrivals.com for those who want to look it up later. I look like a guy who's going to do a bid. A young guy going to do a bid. Yeah. Turned out I was the furthest thing from it.

Yeah. Four star. Nice. Army All-American, Gatorade Player a year, but third place in Falcon Club, local county award show. This is a tie for first. Yeah. Private school bias.

I also see 6-4 here. I saw a damning photo of you and me this weekend. Yeah. You think we're the same height. No, nah. You think you're tall. You're in front of me and I'm kind of towering. Oh, that was at the game.

There's a little bit of a runoff at the end of the end zone. I was down the hill from you. Khan, this is after the game at the celebration after the game. I'll show it to you. Okay, show it to me later. Let's intro James Laronitis right now. Let's talk some college football, some Rams, some Ohio State. My good friend, James Leranitis, joining us on the program.

So my distinct pleasure and honor to welcome one of my heroes on to Green Light. All everything at Ohio State, Rams legend. Still leading tackler, right? Well, yeah. You know, when they traded olatry, that helped. But yeah. No, well, stop. I think you'd still be okay.

We have Big Ten Network, 971 the fan. You know, how many media things are you doing? Fox, right? Yeah, busy guy. Just trying to grind, bro. Just trying to stay busy. Is that hard?

Because, like, we were just talking and, you know, in our playing days, it was a totally different kind of grind. This is, life is better right now, right? Yes. but you're still busy like I feel like when I got out I bit off more than I could chew

like right away because you're like oh I need to fill my time I'm worried about being bored and did you ever have to dial it back with all this media stuff yeah so when I first got into Big Ten Network what I did was I was doing not only games but I was doing studio work as well on a Monday

and same thing just trying to stay busy and as you know just trying to if you take too much time off you feel like am I even going to be relevant anymore. So that's one of the things where you're really just thinking to yourself, man, I got to find a way to make sure that I'm occupying my time. And then I got to a point where it was like, well, with young kids, do I want to travel to a game site and then to Chicago for media

and then do two studio shows on a Monday? And then end up being gone Thursday to late Tuesday night. and I'm like, how did I turn this media career into being gone so much? Yeah, I mean, you kind of retire, you know, part of the perk of retire is you get to see your family more. And then you start to like explain to your kids like, I got to go to like Kalamazoo to do a game. So it's like, that's a hard sell before we kind of had. So we played with the Rams for the people listening. James Laronitis and I were two of the top picks those first couple years there.

in the, well, I was Lenehan, and then I had Hazlitt, and then James comes along. He's the first big pick that Spags makes in the Spags era, and we did nothing but lose for many years. James, do you have any good memories? What were the good memories? Let's talk about the good. Man, just the locker room was great. You know the team we had. I mean, we had a great locker room, the deep line room in and of itself. But people always ask me, like, was it just miserable? I'm like, well, no, we had fun. Like, we had a fun together.

We really enjoyed being together. The frustrating thing, obviously, you know this, is I really felt like we were going to turn around, especially when Coach Fish got there, I really believed that if Sam could have stayed healthy and we just would have had consistency on offense, we could have had an opportunity to turn that thing around, and we were so close. And we would beat teams like Seattle, and then we would go and lose to teams like to the Tennessee. I was just thinking about that game. Jake Locker beat us.

I mean, you weren't there yet, but I mean, well, actually, you were there. Do you remember in 2010 who beat us to keep us out of the playoffs when we were, it's a relevant conversation now because the NFC East is as bad as it is when we were in the NFC West. One year, we almost won the division. Do you remember who beat us to put Marchand and the Beast Mode quake into the playoffs? Gosh, was it, did we lose the Redskins that year? Well, we lost in week 17 to the Seahawks. Do you know who the... I know that.

Who was the quarterback? If we won, we're in. Who was the quarterback? Was it Tavares Jackson? No, it was fucking Charlie Whitehurst. Charlie Whitehurst beat us, and we had to sit at home and watch it. Distinctly remember, because I'm thinking about the NFC East now. I'm like...

I'm never for the beastquake. Yeah. That was because we allowed them in the playoffs. Yeah. So anybody that doesn't think that... you know, the division winners should host home playoff games. Look no further. It's one of the great NFL playoff moments.

We wouldn't have it. No. I try to forget about that game as much as possible. I mean, I got my only win in Seattle our last year. Yeah, we were both on the way out. You know how many pictures me and James took on the way out of stadiums and after like the last few games? Like, okay, well, this is goodbye.

Like, this is the end of us here. And we got cut the same day. Fish called me. I'm sure he called you. I don't know if he called you or me first, but I thought it was the coolest dude that I could imagine getting cut by. How did that phone call go? Well, I was in the facility.

Well, that was your mistake. I was trying to prehab, like, I was trying to get my knee right and all that. And so just in there with Reggie trying to do some modalities. And then next you know, he's like, hey, fish wants to see you. And I'm like, oh, gosh, this is not good. Did you finish your treatment? Like, is it one of those things like, hey, when you're done, do an icing stem on your knee.

Can you just finish the treatment first? Yeah, no, absolutely, because I knew that once they were going to cut me, I wasn't going to have access to all that. Yeah, exactly. You'll find me in the hot tub. But no, I went up there and, you know, fish. He's just like, hey, man, what's going on? I hate to do this to you, but we're going to have to let you go today.

I was like, oh, all right. At that point. He told me, it's a highlight tape on the website. I was like, okay. Oh, that's cool. If it's any consolation. I remember he called me. I was riding around Charlottesville because I got the hell out of Dodge when it was cold in the winter in St. Louis.

And by the way, James and I love that city. We still got a lot of ties there. When we go back, it is nice to have a place that, putting things in perspective, I know we had our individual successes, but we never won. And you go back to that city and people show you so much love. And these were all the people that sat in the stands through the one and five, the two and 14s, the firings, the bad losses, and they never left.

And so it's really cool. I should note that when we go back to St. Louis, we get shown a lot of love. We went to a blues playoff game this year. Do you have a favorite spot that you ate or hung out in St. Louis? I just love Clayton in general. You know, that there. Clayton was awesome. Just I guess my biggest regret probably being there was the fact of not actually staying

and Clayton. I rented there my rookie year and then the one out, I got a Rottweiler so then I went out to St. Charles and then we got a nice home in Creve Corp. But I really just love the walkability of Clayton. The walkability. Yeah, how about that

turn? I just love being able to walk the things and was jealous of you and Jake Long and the big money makers that you guys got to live. I'm sorry you were starving in St. Charles. So actually, since that fateful day we both got released and I think it happened like bang bang fish called me

he was so cool about it he was like hey buddy how you doing I'm like pretty good he's like oh that's great man you've been you've been out in the woods lately and I like we talked for two seconds and he's like so anyways today me and uh we got to release you and James I mean we just have very sorry and like I'm like fish don't be sorry this for me at least in my situation I was hurt I probably deserved to be cut we were making a bunch of money and we were older And it's the best thing that happened to me. But we haven't seen each other since that day, maybe, but one or two times. It's crazy to think about that.

Now, who I do talk to still a lot is your dad because I have the animal in my phone as Joe, Laronitis. And then I have James. And I constantly text James for like gambling tips in the Big Ten. I think I'm texting James, but I have shot about. five to ten uh hey what do you think of wisconsin today type text to the animal he's like what's his he's usually just like hey just another reminder this is uh this is not james and then i'm like oh hey how you've been how you've been pops like uh but you know Ohio state this year you've got

the biggest name in college football probably that's not a quarterback is chase young would you agree yeah he's gonna he's he's he's the biggest name in the draft uh although there's some teams that, you know, might opt for a quarterback early. Where do you see him going? Who's his comp? What's your read on him? What kind of kid is he? Well, I think he probably would be the first pick.

It's either going to be a quarterback. The team loves a quarterback whoever's that first pick is or best player available. But Chase is, for one, he's an extremely hard worker. He showed up on campus three years ago. And I remember, you know, guys like Mickey Marotti, who's our strength coach, saying scouts were like, who's that kid? Who's number two? And already putting them on their notepad and stuff before he ever played a snap

because he's looked the way he looks since freshman year. The difference is he's worked with a very obviously talented D-Line coach and Larry Johnson year in and year out. And he, when coming into the season, he knew he was going to be, he was already top ten on big boards, but he's tried to work on his technique. A lot of his sacks, I mean, he has a great get-off as you guys see. but Chris you'll appreciate this. He has counter moves.

They use them, they move him. They try to get him a one-on-one on guards, which is smart because a guard in space has a chance with him. But it's his effort, too. There's a couple, you know, quarterback hits he'll get. You can get pressures without just all the sacks

that you know about. And there's some hits he has where quarterbacks have to get rid of the football. I'm not good with the whole, you know, comp thing. I don't really know who he reminds me of. But I was talking to Rick Spielman, who's, you know, GM up in Minnesota,

and he was saying that he thinks that he, you know, obviously he's more athletic and maybe more talented than the BOSAs. So if you want to put that with what one GM thinks about him, he's a special player. And the whole NCAA money issue, I look, player likeness and all that, I think we're well on our way to getting guys to be able to capitalize on their likeness. From what I understand he took a loan from a family Fred, he paid it back. Now, the fact that he paid it back, I mean, why are you getting suspect? and if he paid the loan back. I could see if he did back and he's like, I'm taking it. Right, right.

But he paid it back. And he paid it back before the scent was on or? Yes, he paid it back before the season. So it wasn't like he got exposed. And then there's a lot of questions about that I still have. You know, you try to poke around like, okay, if someone was trying to get him like back for anything, why on earth would you do it before playing Maryland and Rutgers? Why don't you?

I have no idea. I had heard somebody on the broadcast during the Maryland. game, you know, I think it was Gus Johnson floated a theory that maybe it was somebody who was disgruntled in Maryland because of his recruitment. I guess he's a DC kid. Yeah, I heard that too, and I asked guys that Ohio State about it. They're like, no, that's not true. And I mean, off the record, I wasn't asking on, you know, air. I was like, yeah, sticking a microphone in their face. Yeah, but they're like, no, it wasn't anything to do with Maryland. And you probably wouldn't, you probably wouldn't share that on this pod if you found out otherwise. Oh, absolutely. I mean,

You're kidding me? So, James, how does this, is this better or worse than when you used to play PlayStation get free tattoos all the time? I didn't get free tattoos. Actually, you can call me dumb for paying for mine because I didn't know my buddies were getting hooked up. I used the bus your balls so much about when that fake tattoo, that free tattoo scandal came out.

I was like, yep, all your tattoos look free. And to think our man, J.T, trust went down over that. Oh, it's such a. shame because you i mean everybody loves that guy yeah i mean he's universally loved at that university and and and the players that passed through there i've never heard a bad word no he's absolutely loved and he he's just a guy that trust doesn't give up on anybody which you love from a coach you know you talk about second third chances he's never going to give up on a player um and there's a lot more layers than just the tattoos we always get grief because people hear oh tattoos me i played

with guys from schools down in the south. And they're like, really? Tattoos is what you guys are worked up about? Yeah, we're getting cars down here in the SEC. I'm like, maybe it's the fact he wears a sweater vest and talks, you know, perfect and thinks he does. I don't know what it is, but they want. But it's all right.

Speaking of a guy who wears a sweater vest, I think he wears a sweater vest a lot. Does Harbaal wear a sweater vest? I think he just wears a sweater. I think he just wears a sweater. Is it the sweater? Yeah, it's just the sweater. Same neck profile there. But the sweater nonetheless, what does Michigan have to do to close that gap?

I don't know you want to give any secrets on the air here, but I figure you're not worried about them closing the gap. No, so I found this stat today from the highly reliable Twitter. Yeah. So it has to be true. It's where we get all our stuff. Yeah, but so it's everyone's like, well, is it recruiting? And it's not recruiting. So from 2016 to 2019, Ohio State's had 69, four and five-star recruiting.

recruits. Michigan's actually had 71. Wow. So first and second round picks out of Ohio State in that span, 18, Michigan's only had four. So I think it's a development issue. And speaking to some of the coaches that came down from up there this offseason, Greg Madison, Al Washington, they said that, you know, look, the recruiting philosophy at Ohio State is a lot more focused. There's like a succinct plan.

There's a development plan for Mickey Marotti when you get here to when you leave. we joke and call it Body by Marotti. You know, there's this whole like thing where up there, they said there's not really much of a recruiting kind of plan. It's more sporadic. Just go get stars. And then when they get there, they don't really get them from. Well, that's the other thing. They've only had, see, back in the day when Bo Schembeckler was recruiting against Woody Hayes and all this, there was a lot of talk about the fact that they recruited for Ohio kids.

Michigan used to be able to go into Cleveland and get kids. not only steal kids from Ohio State, but Chris, they were able to get kids who maybe were a four-star that got overlooked for a five-star that we went for in Texas or Florida. And that, you know, he's disgruntled because he's like, well, forget them then. If they don't want me, I'm going to go and try to beat them. And so they used to get those kids.

But they've only had nine kids from Ohio in five classes. So Harbaugh doesn't even try to come into Ohio. And the reason why I say Ohio is Ohio is known for having good high school football. They have a lot of good high school football players. And instead, the kids that are to three, four-stars are jumping to you know, East Lansing. They're going to Penn State. They're going to other Michigan. But still, if you don't

develop those kids, which they're not for some reason, like, you could honestly wonder. Well, you could be a really good pro coach, right? And you don't have to develop. That's not your, I mean, people don't realize, position coaches in the NFL, there's some good ones, but they're not

many good ones. And so, like, development in the NFL ain't happening anyway. So, I mean, he did a great job in the NFL. I thought he never should have left. Now, the Michigan thing, I mean, and maybe he didn't know how hard it was to develop these kids out of high school. What surprised me about it, to be honest, when they hired him, I thought it was a slam dunk in the sense of Ohio State was running the spread. And I thought Harbaugh is going to bring this 22 personnel, Stanford offense, the stuff we 49ers. And he's going to be able to get killer tight ends, quarterbacks, and like tailbacks like Toby Gerhard to just, everyone's going spread in the Big Ten.

And he's going to come in and just punch everybody in the mouth. going to run this pro-style thing that was going to take it by storm and then do it and it hasn't happened yeah instead changed offensive coordinators and think three times already in five years he's the first coach in the history of the rivalry to go oh and five that's never happened to any coach uh i have no idea what it's like not to be able to beat your rival i have no idea because we yeah you guys have prayed you know parade this week no no parade we're going to wait till uh maybe the second or third time in a row um but yeah so that's your gain maybe you're Michigan's loss. As you look to this Saturday, though, what happens? Well, gosh, I, Wisconsin, Ohio State

were close in the first game in Columbus for a half. And that was bad weather, rain, all that. I really feel that Chase had four sacks last time. Wisconsin's going to have to find a way to get Jonathan Taylor going. J.K. Dobbins outperformed Jonathan Taylor the last time they played. He went for over 200. And really, J.K. Dobbins. Chris, there's only been, I think, three games this year where he's played in the fourth quarter. And he's only 100 yards behind Jonathan Taylor, which we know Jonathan Taylor deserves all the hype and all respect. But he's gotten more. But we know he's the focus of Wisconsin.

Like every game, you know, hey, eight-man box that's loaded up. He's the guy. Where J.K. has only played in three fourth quarters, I think. So you can imagine what the games were more competitive throughout the year, what his numbers could be. And plus, who's his backup, has 700 yards. So they, those two, really, if Wisconsin can't run the football, then there's not going to be a chance. I don't think Jack Cohn is a guy that can go out there and just throw on Ohio State's secondary. I mean, their secondary has a guy, Sean Wade, who will be a first or second round pick,

Damon Arnett, same. And Jeffrey Okuda's top five in a lot of these guys draft boards. I'm talking about a six one corner. It was like 210. So he's like central casting for a DB now in the NFL. So do you trust Wisconsin's receivers to get open against those guys? I don't see it. I think Ohio State will win by 17 or more.

That's something I should personally take note of, 17 or more. I got to look at what that line is. What the line? I think the lines at like 18 or something. I think the line's up there. So I think it might be right on it, and I'll probably stay away. But real quick, before I let you go, I want to talk playoff because you guys are pretty much going to playoff.

Who do you think is the best or worst matchup in that playoff for you guys? Well, I'm hoping that they get the one seat Because I think whoever slides in there at four I think there's a drop off somewhat Not saying that a 14 can beat them Like we know in football anything can happen Especially college kids But if I'm at OSU

I don't want to fall to two And then you're playing Clemson Like people can say all they want about the ACC But everyone wrote off Clemson After the UNC close game And that happens in college football And all they've done since And I think it actually fits perfectly

To what Davo loves like, oh, they're forgetting about us. Nobody cares. We saw his reaction. Nobody thought we'd win 12. Right. The over under for wins there was the total was 11 and a half. So. Yeah.

Oh, I mean, we got to go 30 and O. They're going to kick us out of college football. I get his whole feel. But I don't want to face that team because I know they have NFL talent. They have a quarterback who's done it before. Travis Etienne, everyone's forgotten about him. His numbers are crazy. You talk about JK, not playing third and fourth quarter, same with him.

So I would just rather face, whether it's Utah, Oklahoma. I think Oklahoma still has probably the end to get in because the Jalen Hurst story is awesome. And whether we get it or not, I do believe the committee being human, they love brands. Yes. And I think, hey, if we can have Ohio State Oklahoma facing off in the fiesta bowl in the desert versus Ohio State, Utah. It looks a little different. Jalen Hertz, I'd rather have the Lincoln Riley. I just rather would face that team.

than any of the others. What's that tiny dog I'm hearing in the background? That's Louis. That's Louis or my. I mean, the girls might be close to getting home. It's all chaos is going to break off. How do you go from Rottweilers to like little,

is that like a little rat dog? It's a morkey. It's a Morky. It's a Morky. It's a mix of two small dogs to make a smaller dog. Yeah. And they own the Rottweilers. Yeah.

You know what I've taken from that is you feel very secure. Well, You have, what, two Rottweilers? I do. So what I do is I walk the morkeys in the morning. Uh-huh. Afterwards, I immediately rock the wattwaters so that people are looking at me funny in the neighborhood.

Give me a second. Let me go get the big ass dog. Yeah. Yeah, back up. Well, good, man. I did not know you had a morkey. We got to hang out more. This is that we don't do this enough.

I'm coming to Montana. Okay. So my co-host on a radio show here is from like the central, central east part of Montana. So he's like, before you do anything with Montana, I know you love Big Sky, all that. He's like, if you don't visit Chris, he's up there. Part of Montana, he goes, and you are missing living. I'm telling you. And all they have out his way is like trout fishing and empty fields, but like Glacier Park, Flathead Lake, whitefish, all that stuff. You've been promising to visit me for years. I'm not going to hold my breath. Also, we're going to get you

on Killy one of these days, too. Well, I'm going to go fund me for the flight out to Montana. But once I get that, get that. Okay, cool. Well, dude, it was good talking to you and wishing you guys the best luck this weekend. And please give Virginia your positive energy as we enter that game three plus touchdown dogs. Hey, you know what? You guys are there. It's a good sign and you beat the Hokie.

So that's a win. See you later, man. Appreciate you. You got their baby steps, bro. See you like baby steps. Great movie. All right, dude. All right, buddy.

All right, catch you. All right, so that was James Laroni. He's one of my all-time favorite teammates. What a nice guy. Yeah. And what a nice fireplace that was. Really lovely home. Also an owner of a small dog.

We heard it barking in the background. You a small dog guy? No, big dog. Big dog guy. Big dog guy. Fireplace guy. Yeah, for sure. Not so high on the dog, a little high.

higher on the fireplace. One of the best teammates I ever had. We've talked about the pranks we used to pull. He was a consummate professional and somebody that honestly deserved a lot better than how it ended for him in New Orleans and was a guy that deserved to win just as much as anybody else. But he got to win in college. It all evens out.

He's a Rams leading tackler and he is great on TV as well, really bright guy. and a good buddy. So good to have them. Do you want to spell Laurenitis for the people? L-A-U-R-A-N-A-T-I-S. That's wrong. We'll see you in corrections. Okay.

So this week we have Joe Harris, the interview that we talked about popping in last week. But some things didn't line up with the holiday weekend. we wanted to give you guys some room to breathe. Joe is going to come out this weekend on the Fish Bowl. We also have Friday. I really want to dive into the worst teams this year. Let's not forget about the bad teams as we start to characterize their contests as

valueless. There are a lot of still important themes and subplots playing out in some of these, you know, Bengals, Browns-type games. Really interesting segment coming Friday about all that. And also the paths forward for some of these bad teams. I'm sure we'll talk a lot about the Baltimore matchup this weekend with the Bills. We will talk about championship games coming up this weekend. And of course have Stanford Steve again.

So check us out on Chalk Media. Is that the handle for our Twitter? That's right. I'm going to bounce to Charlotte on Friday. So you and Steve and company have fun. Yeah, so I got to go to Charlotte on Saturday. Get to go. Yeah.

I got to go. Well, you know, that's what happens. Well, no, I can't go on Friday. Yeah, right. Yeah. Married with children. Got you. Can't just jet off.

At O'Neill. Haven't been to an ACC championship game. Nor have I. So this is going to be a big weekend. So check us out on Friday. Thanks for watching. Y'all take care? Y'all take care.

You want to say corrections? Yeah, I would love to do some corrections because I'm sure I didn't have a lot of mistakes today. Lorinitis, L-A-U-R-I-N-A-I-T-I-S. Tano Passigno. Not that hard. Tano Passingio, that's the guy's name that absolutely... Passigno. Murdered everybody with the over.

Yeah. The Chiefs Raiders game. You said that Aunt Harris scored seven points for the Vikes. He scored six. He scored six. Dan Bailey tacked on that seventh. Yeah, let's not forget kickers, right? You mentioned that the problem for the Bama offense is not Tua.

It's very much not Tua with regard to the Iron Bowl. Not missing, no, not missing Tua. Mac Jones was in there. Did you not understand what I was saying there? Did you really think that I watched the Orange, for the Iron Bowl. I got orange bowl on the brain right now. As do I?

Yeah. Do you really think I watched that game and didn't know Tua wasn't playing? No, I think you could have been a little bit more clear in your... Jesus. That is a lot of... I thought you could have been

a little bit more clear when relating the Crimson Tide to the New England Patriots. Well, I mean, no. And finally... I'm gonna... What's the word in court? Plead the fifth?

No, were they paying the objection. Sustained. Yeah, well, I'm going to overrule that. Okay. Last week, Keith Fanhorn was not on the 2003 New Jersey Nets. Did I say that last week? Yeah, he missed that club by a year. We were talking about things that happened in 03, like Virginia beating Virginia Tech.

You know, we've also talked about Tua on this pod and his season ending injury and the prospects. Yeah, dude. I know. I didn't think that you thought. This is a waste of my corrections. Nah. Run back the tape. It should have been mentioned.

mentioned Mac, my man Mac should have been mentioned. Max, Mac's pretty good. And finally, I said y'all take care while looking at this camera here. Uh-huh. I really want to have that back and be looking to that camera there. So that that was on you? Yeah.

Okay. You also, um, you also said that both uh...