Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Conference Championship Reactions! Patrick Mahomes, Dan Campbell's 4th Downs & Brock Purdy in the SB

Episode Date: January 29, 2024

One more NFL game remains in the 2023 NFL season! The 49ers and Chiefs have made it to the Super Bowl and will meet in Las Vegas in February. Chris Long and Kyle Long break down both games, talk Mahomes' dominance, Dan Campbell's 4th down decision, Brock Purdy as a game executive, and we give out our Miller Lite Moments and America's Teams. (00:00) - Kansas City Chiefs at Baltimore Ravens: Mahomes Magic (27:40) - Detroit Lions at San Francisco 49ers: Brock Purdy is Legit (50:10) - America's Teams Presented by Miller Lite: City of Detroit, Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift, Peter Schrager and Contestants of Farmer Wants a Wife (1:09:30) - Miller Lite Mentions: Flight 87 Best Flight, Eminem's Luxury Suite, Taunting and Dan Campbell Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Make sure to check out Fax and the King every Wednesday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@FaxAndTheKing Send any Talent Search submissions to: [e-mail] Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the second half, and a lot of it was George Kettle on the edge, 5-8 a pop for the Niners. They had 38 rushing yards in the first half. Now, the Lions had 150 in the first half. They ran for like 4-2, 4-3 in the second half. Like, they were still running the ball, but they never kept the ball long enough. The big problem for me is that Gibbs fumble,

and then a three-in-out. Between that Gibbs fumble and the two-minute drive late in the game, Niners had 13-minute's possession, Detroit had three minutes. You know, like that's where you lose the game. You lose the game. There's a couple, it's okay to sit here and say on Monday, you're always looking for one person to blame. You know, you could blame Dan.

That's a fun way to do. You could. But you had opportunities, you know, whether they were phases of the game or plays, you had opportunities to win the game. The Niners won the game. Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. Thanks for tuning in today. We've got Conference Championship Weekend recap. Chris, Kyle, Dr. Fax are all in studio.

they're going to go through both games. The biggest plays, the biggest decisions, the biggest calls from the referees. We had all of them. What to make from the conference championship games a little Super Bowl look ahead. We've got two great teams, a little Super Bowl rematch from a couple years ago.

We also talk about how the Lions and the Ravens are set up for the future for the 2024 season. And then we give out our Miller-Light moments and America's teams. So make sure to stay tuned for that. We have a great time. You'll hear us throughout the show talking about how we're close to 100,000 subscribers on YouTube. If you're not a subscriber, pop over.

Give us some love. You'll want to be a subscriber anyway. We've got all this great content coming out. Enjoy the show. Much love. Welcome to the Greenlee podcast. Hey, Kyle, what is 97,000 plus 3,000? Oh, 97,000 plus 3,000.

I think that makes a good six-figure number there. And I think that's how close we are to subscribers, 100,000. So if you're here, happy Monday. Welcome to the wake of championship Sunday, which was a good one for us here at Green Light. 100K would be great, make our day even better and yours, because, as you know, this is a great show. Chris is hanging out here. He's making his final selections for some of the mentions that you might know. I'm going to tell you, this show goes.

Kyle gets here. He's chomping at the bit. He's had his coffee. Nate's here. They're upstairs. You know, like I like to prepare in silence. In the last 10 minutes, they come down. It's like the floodgates open.

We're ready to fucking rock. And my brain can't handle all the noise and the shiny objects. I think that's why it works well, Chris, because you and I are a bit different. But if you're new here and you don't know that, make sure you hit that subscribe button. Hit the subscribe button. We do this every Monday. We have a live show that we do at 1 p.m. throughout the season. I think it's probably the best show out there.

Yeah. And if anybody wants to say different, they can come see us about it. And we're brothers. and, you know, the Kelsey's are brothers and all that, but, like, we're more like you. And we play on different sides of the ball. Think about how... The Cellsys don't have that to offer. Yeah, and the Celsies, they're on the same side of the ball.

They both have beards. They're very similar, actually. We're very different. And so you're getting two different brothers, and then you're getting, like, brothers who are more like you, and that we're washed and we're on the couch. Those guys... I'm trapping my sweat. Hard to relate to the Celsies, right?

So... So here we are. It's Monday. There's only two teams left. Nate, how did you make out last night with all these happening? Are you with the Detroit fan base that's just wallowing itself? Yeah, I'm actually laughing at Black Twitter because they said Black Twitter said there was no way they were going to allow.

I don't laugh at Black Twitter. I see Black Twitter. I just go the other way. You know? I don't want to get in the washing machine. Look, they said there was no way the NFL was going to let Baltimore and Detroit get into the NFL and then there's memes showing

they said Baltimore and Detroit fans thought they were going to be rolling dice listening to 42 Duh in vain place. Instead, it's white America as you put it last night. It would have been a fun week at the casino.

Or it was going to be super white America with Eminem in the stands versus Kansas City and Taylor Swift and the Swifties. So that would have been very interesting. entertaining also. It's going to be an entertaining crowd out there either way. It's going to be a fun week. It's just too much red, dude. It's too much red. I'm a big Super Bowl and football game, uniform matchup guy. And if there's anything I'm mad at Dan Campbell about, it's not the calls.

We'll get to that. It's the fact that they couldn't keep the other red team out of the Super Bowl. And now we've got to stare at two red teams for two weeks. A lot of red. It's a lot of red. You know what I mean? If you're not to shout out, talk about gags, but if you're a crib in Vegas, it's going to be a long week. It's going to be a long... That's also something I stay out of. It's going to be a long week's in, flood. Get it all out there, Nate. Before we start talking ball, you know, get all this stuff.

Justin Morgan, I just wanted, there's Justin Morgan from the chat. I'm a Ravens fan. I'm in the hospital right now because how many times I shot myself in the foot. I bet you you could still run the ball. Manus as effectively as the Ravens did or as committed as the Ravens were to it. All right. So the first thing we were, I do is start and talk about Kansas City Chiefs, Scott.

Hey, Chris. Hey, buddy. What are you saying? We can talk now. No, you know, it's like sometimes the hardest thing in this business is to be right. I've said that before. I'll say it again. No, seriously, because you guys get to take your pot shots and I'm talking to you.

I know where you're going with that. I'm getting my wrestling promo on, but I'm breaking the fourth wall. You in the comments, and I've had a bunch of very, we love having all the fan bases. show up in the YouTube and everywhere but like some fans want to be coddled they want to be told that no matter what your team's going to win they're better than the other team we're haters because we picked the game a certain way I was told watch the film I watched the film that's how I came to the conclusion this game would play out pretty much like it did now was it going to be 2320 was it going to be 17 7 I don't know but chiefs in a low scoring game that's what we told you and that's

what happened. It was a chess match. I wouldn't say it was a rock fight. It was definitely a chess match. And it was great quarterback play. Patrick Mahomes on the road was so much fun. With all that's at stake for his legacy, with all that was at stake for Lamar's legacy and the opportunity that he had to put a cherry on top of this MVP thing, go beat Patrick Mahomes at home with your great defense, who, you know, honestly, I'll give credit to that Ravens defense. They showed up, they played physically. They're awesome group. were on their toes the whole night, but sometimes it's not enough. And when you play against a guy like Patrick Mahomes and when Travis Kelsey shows up and he has his magic stuff and he had

Mike's magic stuff out of the bottle, it's tough to stop. I don't want to take anything away from Lorraine Jackson because I think he's great. You know, like I'll say the same thing I said at the end of the game with Josh Allen a week ago, although Josh played better in the playoffs. You know, at the end of the season, you go through a checklist. Like, you know, you're going to the end of the season. You The number one thing on the checklist is, like, is the quarterback the guy. The quarterback's the guy. Lamar Jackson's the guy, dude. Spaggs is that good, that defense is that good, and I don't think Todd Monkin had a good game plan.

And I don't think they were ready to play the way the Chiefs were. Surprise, surprise, the Chiefs get 10 to 15 percent better in the playoffs. Yep. I mean, look at Kelsey. It looked like a shell of himself all year long. He cut 11 balls on 11 targets yesterday. Against the best lineback in core, possibly in the NFL or one of the best lineback in Cors. And Kyle Hamilton, all pro safety.

So, you know, teams get better in the playoffs. And, you know, when it comes to the Chiefs, like, they are who we thought they were. But not that team that they were showing themselves to be in the middle of the season. Like, the Chiefs, that championship DNA is still in there. And I'm not going to take anything away from Lamar. And I said this last week on a Tuesday night show that I don't think a lot of people listen to. But I went on this rant because people were being so hard on Josh Allen. I do think the reaction to Josh losing the playoffs,

there's a lot of people who are tired of hearing Lamar talked about in a negative light, and they think Josh skates. And you're like, what has Josh done that Lamar hasn't done? Why are we comparing anybody to Mahomes? I think that's a little bit of a straw man. Nobody's comparing anybody to Mahomes, and they shouldn't. I put it this way last week. Guys, you know what Apex predators are?

They rule the jungle or the landscape wherever they live. They're the top of the food chain. There are no challenge. If we really knew one, we'd probably be dead. There are no challenges. Yeah, exactly. And, you know, like all these guys are apex predators, whether they're Josh Allen or Lamar or Joe Burrow.

But there's one guy who's a Keystone species. Kyle, you know what the difference is? I don't. Keystone species define an ecosystem. They define it for an entire ecosystem. And some animals are keystone species and apex predators. What are examples? An example would be Patrick Mahomes.

Yeah. Okay. That's what Patrick Mahomes is. Patrick Mahomes is not only an Apex Predator like all those other guys, but the difference between them and Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes has defined an entire era of football. If you were born within a certain range of years and you had a gift of throwing a football, you grew up your whole life. You think I could be him.

I could be the guy. And the unfortunate thing is that Patrick Mahomes is alive. And Patrick Mahomes exists in the AFC. and if you don't play quarterback in the NFC, I don't care how good you are during this era, it is going to be harder, and your legacy is going to be affected by his existence. And not just that, he's paired with Andy Reed.

And like I said, they had the better script. They outplayed them. I've said all year long that I thought Kansas City was, if not the best defense in the league, one of the best two or three. Some people question that. I think you see why in situations like this, because the defense in just the players on the field,

it's the defensive coordinator. and McDonald had a great year, a great year. And people talking about him like a head coach, I agree with that. But with Spags, this is a guy who's been a part of Giants runs for championships. He's been a part of a lot of these Kansas City runs and a big key piece.

And I thought yesterday his game plan was awesome. We said that they would blitz Lamar. Some people said Lamar's great against the blitz. Okay, but that's the problem with looking at raw analytics and looking at raw data without any context. Okay, a blitz from, you know, Joe Blow coordinator is not the same as the pressures that Spags is going to dial up. You could see some of those pre-snap looks. He was presenting that offensive line and training eyes to a certain spot and then rotating at the snap, bringing different guys.

That's such a nightmare for an O line. And I know it also puts pressure on Lamar. It does, and it put pressure on him. His completion percentage against the blitz was like 46. and they brought Blitz 44% of the time. I think the biggest issue and the biggest head scratcher to me with Todd Monk, and we'll get to the Chiefs because they're the winning team. But, you know, those guys came out and they were afraid to run the ball.

It was just the fear thing. It wasn't anything that Kansas City was doing other than just playing. It wasn't a reaction to anything. It wasn't like, oh, they're loading the box or, oh, they're getting in these fronts where we just can't run on these fronts. Like the way out, it was described to me at Baltimore runs the, runs the ball they're going to. Okay. First play the game, tranquil, great edge, right? Then third and one, they stack them up. And you're thinking, oh, they might actually stop the run.

First play out of the half. And you didn't see power for like a while. And they ran power the second possession, I think, after they picked up a conversion in plus territory. They run power for like 14 yards. And they don't come back to it. They came back to it out of the half. And if you remember, Justin Reed, who played really well, came down in suple. like Gus Edwards for no gain. The very next play they go Jet Suite, McDuffie knocks it down. The Chiefs are a really tough matchup for this team

because they have guys out on the perimeter who can tackle. So you get guys in space, you're not as worried about it. You saw that pop up at different points in the game where it's like they got guys down in space and then they have the guys to cover. So late in the game, when they started playing more one and they started giving them more matchups,

you know, Lamar could not take advantage of them outside the numbers. And I thought their biggest matchup advantage in the second half would have been Justice Hill because they were down Willie Gay and because of some of the speed that they lose there. But the problem was, Spags turned that into a matchup advantage for him. You know, on one possession alone, he blew two protections.

You know, not M.E.'s, but, you know, he's just not that guy. And Justin Reed had a sack on third and nine. And so, to me, it was just a master class on defense and bringing pressure, keeping things in front of you. And when they didn't keep things in front of them, Kyle, Kyle. When the Ravens actually did something, they shot themselves in the foot. And that leads me to the most important part of this thing. Kansas City Chiefs are more disciplined team. If you're sitting at home talking about the calls, I need you to take the pacifier out of your mouth

and grow up because calls go in one team's direction every game. Okay? Teams find ways to not put themselves in position where they're going to get penalized. This is what they mean when they say teams know how to win, right? Teams know how to win. Not fuck up. And listen, like, you can go down the list of them. Like, there's the Millette hold that leads to the Kelsey touchdown, the Kyle Van Van Nuys Roughness, Unnecessary Roughness, the Travis Jones roughinging.

Like, these are plays that the Van Hoy thing, I heard guys in the room were like, well, they're going to just get the third guy. I'm like, when have they not gotten the third guy? When five seconds after the play, Kyle Van Hoy walks over and head butts a guy, like that's going to be a flag and you know the chiefs at that point are not hurrying up you know Baltimore gave them momentum to where they wanted to go put a drive together before the half you know the taunting thing legerious need you know I'm obsessed with the guy the fucking guy gets zay flowers on the ground okay you always talk about live to fight another day that's why you live to fight another

day making that tackle alone was the difference with all that space with all that space that's a lot of for that young buck to have the football. Yeah, dude, getting him down and then, and then Zay Flowers being a dummy in that situation and taunting, Legerius Sneed, like, you know, when you say act like you've been there before, like, act like you've been to the playoffs, act like you've made a play like

that, and then Sneed getting the ultimate get back on the goal line. Oh, my good. I think it sucks, because in that play, if you look at it, I don't think he meant to hit him with the ball. I think that's why the flag end up getting called for the toning. It's the flags and the way. Did he mean to push him? Did he mean to stand over him?

I don't know if he was pushing him off, like, they let guys go. Somebody said, might be Chris's worst takeover. What have I said that is not objectively true in this breakdown? This is all real. Grow up. You want to know what's also true? How about Red Zone attempts and interceptions? So, like, that's a real thing that maybe you guys can work on as an organization.

Just call it both sides. One thing that the chief don't have to work on. Is there an age? Which we're pointing out. It should be an age limit on this chat room. If you're a minor, get out of the chat. No minors. No minors in the chat.

wearing in here no minors in the chat if you think if you think the difference in that game was the the calls they play that game 10 times the chiefs win seven times forget about playing an at arrowhead the we knew exactly how the game would go and it went that way it went that way they beat themselves though they beat themselves and they weren't they weren't as good this my thing like yeah like the game playing wise is just you go out and you get odell beckham like for what the miss hold how about a How about the leg whip on Chris Jones? We could go back and forth. We go back and forth all game.

That's a safety, isn't it? We can go back all. We can go back all game. We can do this in any of the games. But y'all are complaining about calls. And not all y'all. All I'm saying is this. The better team, the more disciplined team,

the team that gets 10 to 15% better in the playoffs, the Ravens did not get 10 to 15% better in the playoffs. They won that game. And you want to talk about the defense and all that stuff? They got a great defense. What a team. team. This scared that all week, bro, I was on the Chiefs, all week. I was having dreams about the game. I was so nervous about the game. Because, you know, I've stood on the

table for these guys. I don't want to look like an idiot. And also, I don't want to lose money. Yep. But, you know, and then when Willie Gay is down before the game, I'm thinking, bro, I'm on the wrong side of this thing. But credit to Spags because somebody from each group that lost somebody made a big play. You want to talk about Bush came in? Bush came in and made the pick. Now, I mean, that's a punt into the end zone. Beyond Bush, the one that got away from Chicago. Chicago Bears fans. No, he's former Miami Hurricane.

Dion Bush was drafted to the Chicago Bears. I was with him for a bit. Good dude. And then we had crossover when I was there in Kansas City. It was so cool to see. Obviously, you hate to see a guy go down, but for Deion to come in and make a big play. It's just, it couldn't happen to a better dude.

Patient, patient, patient. And then you go make your play. That's one of the untold things that's, like, great about the NFL and kind of shows, like, an organization, just having guys ready. Like, we always talk about as players or like a coach and a player next man up mentality because you just never know when guys like you're really only as good as your last man like people say that until you really have to rely on that

and when you see guys stars get hurt in big spots and then their backups it's it's one of those things in football oh there's a backup in at at at corner of safety oh let's go right at them and for for you to kind of like accept that and then go out there and make big plays that that's that's always a good little side side of you. story. I love talking to the chat. What are they saying? Rick Mao, 10 to 15% better who comes up with this garbage. You're right. They're 30% better. You're right. They were 30% better. No, because and also if you think about it. And the Ravens were 20% worse. People have to realize if you're going to beat the Kansas City Chiefs, you have to play your best game. And like the games that the

Chiefs lost during the season, if you go back and you watch them, like they were shooting themselves in a foot. They had so many drop passes this season. that that alone was a huge difference where they were losing games not because bad quarterback play or what's going on. And guess what? And guess what? And guess what? Because I got in this argument on inside the NFL. And I cannot wait for tomorrow.

All my boys, I love those guys, Jay Cutler, Channing Crowder, Ryan Clark. But they were wrong. We were in the middle of the season. And we're doing the production meeting after the Eagles game. And they're talking about the Chiefs. And they're like, hey, what do you think about the Chiefs? I'm like, I'm not worried about the chiefs. And so they're like, okay, and they take their notes.

And then we get on set. And they're like, what do you think about the chiefs, Chris? I'm like, I'm not worried about them. And then they jump me. They're all like, you idiot. You know, they're all like, you look terrible. They're dropping balls. They're not going to be any good.

And I said, who's beating them at this point? I said at Arrowhead. I don't think I would have took them to go the distance on the road. But as the postseason went on, it was evident to me that they were a better version of that team in the regular season. And what in what play could be more encapsulating than the very play that started the argument on inside the NFL and the set of inside the NFL was MVS dropping that ball against the Eagles?

Third and nine with the game on the line. I understand throwing the ball because at that point, if you run it, you're really talking about 10 seconds, 15 seconds. You want to end the game right here. You get your man indicator. You've got a safety who's sitting there and robber and he's got his eyes on. Kelsey at the sticks, Kelsey, even when he's not making plays, making plays. You get Millette on MVS, and he just launches it.

And MVS makes the clutch catch, that's 10 to 15% better. That's who they are. And those 10% of plays that they were missing, they're starting to make those plays in the playoffs, and that's what's scary about the Chiefs, and that's what makes them actually. Patrick, I'll do you one further. Yeah, do, yeah. I think I'm about to do what you were about to do. What?

This is from Ari Mirov's Twitter. Perfect. Okay? Mm-hmm. Bright guy. I haven't met him. Perfect. Smarter than me.

Patrick Mahomes has played 17 postseason games, effectively another full season in the playoffs. His stats are as follows, Chris. 14 and 3 record. He's 422 for 626, which is 67.5%. He's got 4,800 yards, 458 rushing yards, 39 passing touchdowns, five rushing touchdowns, and only seven interceptions. Now, I haven't done the numbers there, but go look at his, percentage during the season.

Yes. And compare it to that and find out what the percentage is there. So that's just one guy. Some teams get better in the playoffs. Now go look at Chris Jones production. Now go take a look at Spag's defensive units production throughout the playoffs. You can start to come up with this number, right? Take a look at Harrison Bucker in the playoffs.

Look at Kelsey in the regular season. Travis Kelsey averages like 100. We're answering these questions right now. And another thing that they, another thing that they weren't afraid to do was they ran the ball. They ran the ball into down safety looks. They ran the ball, dude. These two quarterbacks are incredible, okay? One's on another level, but Lamar's insane, dude.

The play where he shakes off Chanel and scores that touchdown, you're just like, that's what you're worried about. That's the way the Ravens can beat the Chiefs. Okay? And, you know, the play where he, a blitzer deflects the ball into his hands, like they got that look at the rights. He catches the ball, like, and runs where...

At one point during the second quarter, I looked up and I said, they really have two plays. And they're all Lamar, right? The difference is they both had high height. It's the crossers. It's, well, yeah, but for Mahomes and for the chiefs, they were willing to take the chunks.

They were willing to take a chunk of flesh every play. A little something behind your ear, a little something back here. You know, you don't like it when I touch. You know, you know? Oh, go ahead. They were willing to take the little chunks. And when they had third manageable or fourth and short,

the Kelsey look on Stevens on fourth down. It's my homes. It's vintage my homes, dude. I'm looking front side to the flat. It's not there. All right, like, I need like a quarter second to look back and check for Kelsey, and he's definitely, I trust the guy.

He's got the size and he's got a step on Stevens and that throw off his back foot, or the fourth down, I think it was, where he's climbing the pocket and getting drilled. And he hits Kelsey. And this is another thing about being together for a long time. This is the thing. He hits Kelsey.

Kelsey's on one side of Stevens when he lets the ball go. He has leverage on one side. The ball sails, just getting it off some miracle. It sails to the other side of Stevens, and Kelsey is able to make that adjustment. They're playing backyard football. That's what they do. If this is the grass right here,

this is ground level, Patrick with Travis, which is different than anybody else, knows that he can throw the ball from zero to 100, 100 being, let's say, 80 inches, 90. inches whatever Travis's catch radius is but he drop he can drop a ball in the bucket right here and he knows Travis can adjust and make the play that's the difference these two are like they're in you they don't even have to it's non-verbal they're in a voice chat with themselves

all the games going on everything else is muted and they're just like hey do you see that yeah I see that with no sound with no sound and Chris a testament to how good on Patrick is in the in the postseason here's the staff for you the Eagles last year led the NFL with 70 sacks and they had zero versus Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl. The Ravens led the NFL with 31 takeaways this season, and they had zero versus Patrick Mahomes yesterday. That's wild. That's wild.

I mean, and that's, and that's the greatness of that quarterback. That's the Andy andy show, too. When you're used to getting freebies that you earn on defense because you're so damn good, you don't have those offensively. You don't have those short fields. They didn't give them to them. And I think another big thing in the second half is something that gets lost. But, you know, Chiefs didn't do shit offensively in the second half, but what they did do,

situations was flip the field, okay, because they've gotten these situations before this season. Tommy Townsend was great in the second half. I mean, he had the pin punt. He also had a big one out of the shadow of the end zone where he flipped the field completely. But they started drive at 1213, and they go five minutes from their own 21 and they punt at the 45. Okay, there's another one where they start their own 20 with 1452 in the fourth. They eat up four minutes and they punt at the Baltimore 48-yard line. They pin them down to the one-yard line. So these are big plays or big drives that don't end in points, but they're huge drives when you have a 10-point lead in a low-scoring game.

It's a war of attrition. It's a war of attrition. They understood the game. They understood the assignment. That's why they are who they are. And I think for Baltimore, the thing that sucks is like, if not when, if not now, when. You know, like this was other than Patrick Mahomes, I think they'd probably be in the Super Bowl. but they got a lot of people, they got a sign,

and this window is like wide open right now. This year was a great opportunity. And I think the thing that really sucks is you're like, and I know I'm telling you, be patient with Lamar because all it takes is one run to make it worth it, right? And he has not played well in the postseason at times, but just be patient. But out of the other side of my mouth, I'm saying like,

damn if not now when yeah you know it's it's tough what's your what's your messaging both of you guys to a young guy like zay flowers who obviously he's gonna be fine dude he's gonna be fine that's gonna sting that's gonna that's gonna that's gonna hurt like seeing that and just like you're gonna see that highlight and know like it may have been different if that play did not happen and that's that's the tough thing about that loss is just like it's usually with losses, you have like things. This was so specific that everyone has to wonder, like, just the point in the game when it happens, the momentum shift, like everything that touched down would it did if it was different. Like, it changes the game. So that is something that you

have to find a way to get over it. But Rick Mal had money on the fucking, he had money on the, he had money on the, on the Ravens. He said the Ravens blew the game more than the Chiefs earned it. I think there was a little bit of both. And that's why you play football. games and that's part of being a great team is not blowing the game yeah so yeah i'm making mistakes so i i i you know that leads us how do you win rick me meow mea mea lose tell me tell me me how you don't even have to say over the night you can just say rick meow yeah yeah you guys are going to stop saying meow all right all right let's talk about the second game yep where do you want to start because like i said the middle of the season yeah like i said in the middle of season why the hell are you're

Are these coaches coaching like they're playing Madden, bro? Like, just kick the fucking ball. You have kickers. Kick the ball. Okay. I don't get it. I don't get it. But also, if you're going to go for it all the time on fourth down,

then go for it all the time on fourth down. Okay. Here's my take. The one thing that's curious to me, I'll acknowledge this with Dan. I'm going to put my cards on the table. Number one, huge Dan fan. I don't think they're there. without him, right? Number two, he hurt them in the second half. Number three, and this is the most

important thing, to me, the biggest mistake he made was calling that timeout because that robs your defense of an opportunity to earn their keep. You know, like an onside kick is not a high percentage play. In that situation, even if you're going to run the ball out of goal line, have another play loaded up in the hopper for fourth down. You're supposed to have more plays. Ben, that's on Ben Johnson too. And, you know, like, I want to know if I'm an owner, what happened there. Because, I mean, in that situation, if you don't have a second play, you burn your first time out, now the game is going to end on an onside kick or it's going to extend.

And to me, that, that, you frame a lot of these decisions with, like, hey, this is a coach that believes in his team. Yeah. Coach doesn't believe in his defense making that call. So with that call, who on the sideline other than the head coach can maybe, like, would like buzz into him and be like, do not take a time out right here. I mean, it's a conversation that's ongoing between the people upstairs and Dan. Like, hey, Dan.

And so I'm pretty sure they co-signed with, they co-sign that. Like if we don't get it here, like, yeah, we're going to take a time out, which is wild to me. Now, as far as the fourth down is concerned, before the half, I understood them kicking because it's a three-score game at that point. Like, you know, they're going to get the ball out of the half. You could be up a touchdown in five minutes. Okay. So I understand them going up 17 before the half. Part of me is like, why not do it again in the middle of the third quarter when the possessions are different?

I think some things change there. They came out of the gate and San Francisco was rolling on that, you know, like they were rolling a little bit. I think you look at that situation and you could easily say, hey, Dan, you're a fucking idiot. I understand that's kind of how they do things. That's what I wanted to say in real time. went back and watched the tape. I thought the second half was about missed opportunities for the Lions. I really do.

That fourth and three, the people that said, hey, down in Dallas, remember golf to the flat on the two-point conversion, a lot of people were like, well, it's there. You know, like the Stuyken call in the flat, a lot of people say it's there. You can't question the call. It's there. And to Stuyken and to Ben Johnson, I would have said, well, in those games, the quarterback wasn't making throws so like you're trusting him to make an easy throw in a tough situation maybe you consider that but in this game i didn't think jared golf played bad so i'm looking at this situation

and reynolds got the ball on his hands i mean it's the right read it's the right play it's there and i think from dan's perspective in that situation you're talking about an opportunity to go up 21. You could be up 21 points with four minutes or so to go if you'd finish that drive in the second half. And I think he also knows that Shanahan and the Niners don't come back in the fourth quarter. And so he wanted to put him away in that situation. I'm not going to fault him for that, especially when the ball is on the guy's hands. Now the second fourth down, where you've got a chance to kick a 47 yarder with seven minutes to go in the game and tie it up, because of the clock, because of how quickly San Francisco's apt to score, in that situation, kick the field goal

and get the ball last. Whether you're getting the ball last and grinding it out in four-minute mode or you're going to win or tie the game, I'd rather be in that situation than give them the ball back at midfield. And if they score again, you're going to have to kick an onside kick

or call three timeouts. Does that make sense to you guys? What I'm saying is, with seven minutes to go in the game, a chance to tie it. If they go down and score in four minutes, it's a no-brainer. You can still tie it on the James and Williams touchdown.

I just don't like that it's kind of like no rhyme or reason. It's kind of like how I'm feeling in the moment. and we don't know his rhyme really yeah exactly but ben jonson got them the open look on the first fourth down that's my point is like the looks there yeah catch the fucking ball and not to mention that like the whole second half dude you've got missed opportunities laporta uh in the red zone on the first drive so they just miss it you know fourth and two you got the reynolds drop you get the gives fumble dude did dan campbell fumble that ball you know um third and nine reynolds dropped another one later

in the game. Like, that drive extends. Who knows? J-Mo, touchdown. Like, catch the ball. Great players make that play. And I know it's not an easy play, but catch the ball. So all I'm saying is there are opportunities. The lines were still finding guys. Dan Campbell can't block Nick Bosa. He can't block Nick Bosa.

So, you know, like, there is, he deserves some culpability in that game for calling that time out late, but that's a situation you probably never end. They say Bosa gave a speech. You just make the plays you're supposed to make. And you can't have D.Ns getting pancake by. Overgrown wide receivers, man. Yo. Like, I don't like,

Joe, you know, Kittle is a tight end. I don't want to hear this. He's basically an old lineman. No, no, he is a ball catching tight end. And you're starting,

D.N. In the playoffs, should not be getting pancake that bad on a reach block. Right. No. No.

Just looking at the camera. No, no, no. Well, I understand. And I want to, I want to point this out. In the second half, and a lot of it was George Kettle on the edge. Five-eight a pop for the Niners.

They had 38 rushing yards in the first half. Now, the Lions had $1.50 in the first half. They ran for like 4-2, 4-3 in the second half. Like, they were still running the ball, but they never kept the ball long enough. The big problem for me is that Gibbs fumble and then a three-in-out. Between that Gibbs fumble and the two-minute drive late in the game,

Niners had 13-minute's possession. Detroit had three minutes. You know, like, that's where you lose the game. You lose the game. There's a couple, it's okay to sit here and say on Monday, you're always looking for one person to blame. You know, you could blame Dan. That's a fun way to do. You could.

But you had opportunities, you know, whether they were phases of the game or plays, you had opportunities to win the game. Now, here's where the nineers won the game. So I want to talk about the Niners. The Niners won the game and they won the game because they found the matchups in the second half, whether it was the Villador, DPI, Iuke in the Red Zone. Kittle on Melanfonwu. They ran the ball. Brock Purdy put on the Michael Vick jersey. And Brock Purdy, dude.

This is the thing. You know, it's the reason we haven't slandered him to the degree that some people have because I don't see the point in that. The point is Brock Purdy is good enough. The way they said good enough for Detroit, Brock Purdy is good enough to play in a Super Bowl. Brock Purdy's part of the reason they're here. You know, so like when people call him a capital G game manager, at the very least, give him game executive because the dude makes plays off schedule.

How about the throw across the middle that he got away with, and Greg Olson was essentially like, oh, my goodness. Yeah, but that's just the Brock Purdy Magic. But I'd rather have a guy that's not afraid to take those chances that can make throws-off platform than a guy who's just sitting back there and running the offense. And I think that's where he separates himself against Green Bay. One of the biggest plays of that game was late in the game,

Green Bay is trying to defend a field goal, and they're in the red zone, and they run, Green Bay runs like a TE from a shade. So the tackles by the center, and he's trying to run out and get contained. He doesn't get it. Brock sees it and goes down to low red and sets up that touchdown. Well, there were multiple occasions last night, none bigger than 442 to go, third and four at midfield where he scrambles to the 28-yard line.

He just sees it. He beats Anzolone to the sideline and takes off. And then, you know, I think a huge one for me, this is a hidden key play. It's 201 left in the third. at the San Francisco 20. Okay, they send Mel and Fonwu. Early down pressures. That's what Detroit has done well.

Got him dead to rights to the 11. I mean, he's all over him. Purdy shakes out of that and hits use check on the sideline. And you know what happened? Toe tap? Yeah, it's a toe tap. Dude. Seven minute drive.

It could be second and 19. What do you call you? On the 11. Use check on the sideline. And it's a seven minute drive. Receiver? So, like, that kills you. And it's all Brock Purdy making plays off schedule.

and the throws were circus throws. Like a well-behaved Johnny Mansell. He, yeah. You know what I like? Like entertaining, maybe not the optimal physique. Like people want an alpha Josh Allen out there. And Brock Purdy's like, hey, my hands are a little small. I've got to dry them off when it rains.

You want to see this offense go? Let's run this thing back for the fourth quarter. And by the way, his hands aren't small. But, you know, I'm playing the narrative game. He reminds me. I was trying to figure out who he reminds me of. Somebody said... Howie Jr.

Somebody said Baker sometimes. But I actually... In high school. Yeah, my brother. He was sick in high school. Honestly, he reminds me of what you would want Bryce Young to be. You know, like KG extends plays, quick release. He's got a great quick release.

He makes him plays off platform, but he's not Michael Vick, except for when he's playing the Lions. And I think he's just been that guy for them that you could explain it a way. this was such a huge game for him because I think if they lose this game there are people talking about do you replace brock party next year and there was a point in this game where you're like we're right back where we were last year in the nfrey they panned to george kittle on the sideline yeah like right after their failed drive and they were down 17 and George kittle's face on the sideline is kind of like you know it's not a face that's telling me like screw our quarterback but it's a face it's like

fuck how do we get in the situation so quickly um and then for him to turn it around i just imagine all the texts that were sent from lions fans talking shit all the well did you did you see um just wait yeah yeah did you see the the video the video of kiddle last night science super bowl when they were about to lose he was just like he was on the silent he was miced up and he had said something he was like i'm gonna fucking be back here yeah and with a vengeance yeah like they played that and then that's another team that's got championship DNA they might not have won one but they've been there so you talk about a team that like goes down 17 at home and the sky is falling they're giving up 150 yards on the ground in the first half.

They're in the same place they were last year. Bertie got hit so hard at one point by McNeil. I thought we were going to have a repeat of last year. Like he was going to be out. Was it the one where he hit his... Yeah. Okay. It was the same action.

It was the same. He didn't get his elbow. He got his fingers. It might have been another one where McNeil landed on him. I don't think it was McNale. He got hit hard in some... Purdy hit a hand on release. I forget who he hit.

But I remember thinking, like, damn, is it going to be fingers this year? Yeah. Yeah, no, the ball goes down in the field a couple times, and you're like, damn, it's party going to get up. I said the same thing about Mahomes a couple times. Mahomes was so tough yesterday. He got crumpled up, like a pretzel.

He got destroyed a couple times. The pretzel tackle he got out of. He didn't tear both his ACL? He just ran out of it. Yeah, dude. I mean, so there's a viral video going around of some of his workouts that he does that looks crazy and he can kind of like back burn. He's doing the handstands and shit.

Purdy made some of the best throws yesterday of anybody. Shout out to Bob Stroop, who is a home trainer. Who is a very entertaining Twitter follow on game day. He's a very prideful trainer, loves his athlete, as many of these trainers do. And yeah, he's a good, Bob Stroop is a good follow. But he makes Patrick do all this off-platform stuff to prepare for these awkward situations because he knows his athlete isn't going to go down on first contact. So how am I going to train him differently?

question interesting but I mean he's a different athlete so you can train him like everybody else yeah I this is going to be a great Super Bowl imagine trying to challenge Patrick Mahomes yeah in the off season well he challenged himself yeah but like try to build that playground any any any any chance of this game like being a blowout either way do you see that I see a situation for either way or or which way would you do you think I think the blueprint is set for what the Kansas City Chiefs want to achieve against this San Francisco 49ers team, right? Yeah, I like the Chiefs. I'm big on the Chiefs.

I like the Chiefs. Hey, and nothing against the Niners, I think they're fucking awesome. But if you had to ask me which way I lean, it's the Chiefs because of a few things. Number one, they got great backers in the middle of the field. Like, that helps playing this all the best. Willie will be back. You might get Jared McKinnon back. I mean, like, I should go.

Jerich. You don't have been talking about it. My favorite name ever, Jerich. I'm like, are you Jared or Jared? And he's got a magic city backpack he walks around the facility with. He's one of the chillest characters in the NFL. Well, I like this guy. Well, I like this guy.

Anybody who's watched Chiefs games with me this year can tell it. Playoff McKinn. Because when he's not out there, I'm just so pissed off. He had such a different dimension. I think he played quarterback in college, too. Check me on that. But he's another one of these guys where Andy Reid's like, oh, you know offense really well?

Come on in. We got a place for you. And he's also. clutch. And they asked him earlier in the season about being shelved a lot. Like, you're not using this offense. And he did, he had an opportunity to take shots in. Yeah, he didn't. Rotation. And he was like, look, I know, I know my role in this office. Yep. And it's coming probably. Listen, and he'd be great to get back. I don't know if Cook, the safety has a shot. I haven't even looked because you're just worrying about it one game at a time if you're the chiefs.

But I think having the guys outside they can cover, right? There's stuff that's going to pop up this week, obviously, after that game. That was a physical football game, so guys are going to pop up on the injury report. Now on the other side of things, like, it's all about the run game, right? You know, Kansas City's had trouble in the run game, but one thing that I think they've done a pretty good job at is perimeter run. Like, I think when, you know, like you look at the Miami game plan, plan to hard in the flat and saying, hey, we're going to, we're going to force the ball back in the middle of

defense. I don't know if the guys up front have the same physicality for San Francisco outside of Trump Williams that where like Baltimore does where you were worried about it coming in. So I do think it's going to be a good football game. You ask if it could be a blowout. I mean, here's your blowout scenario. Spags dials up pressures that Purdy throws four picks. You know, you get in the passing windows, you get some deflections.

Set traps for Brock Purdy. Yeah, I just see. Now, on the other side of it, how do you beat a great quarterback? you get pressure with four. The Ravens did not get pressure with four. You know, like Patrick had time. You know, you talk about this big, bad defense. The Niners can get pressure with four.

So if you can get pressure with four, it's a different conversation. The pressure that the Ravens got at times, and it was late in downs. Matabee did a great job rushing. Obviously, they were down Tuny at left guard. Yeah. And, you know.

But they couldn't wreck the game. It's obviously, we don't know what's going to happen with Tuny in the Super Bowl. But Allegretti, like we said last week, you can run behind him. You can trust him not to have MEs. And that's all you want, that Andy Reid offense. And to your point, less penalties, more opportunities to win.

Yes. Report today that Tuni has a torn pecks. Yeah. Probably will not. Yeah, he's like 50-50. The peck's brutal. 70-30, no. Peck's brutal.

I got a bird chest. If you think about the game plan, they're going to try to run the ball. And like you said last week, like Allegretti is not a big loss. And their big passes down the field can be off of heavy play action, which gives our guy Nick Allegretti. and that offensive line an opportunity to impose their will early in the down, take the edge off the rush. I mean, I think that's the game plan, Chris.

Run the ball early. Give Patrick shots. Watch, MBS might have another couple of points. Here's another one, Kyle. Andy Reid against Steve Wilkes, okay? And then the real matchup is Shanahan against Spags. You know, it was like I felt good about the Spaggs matchup last week because Munkin hasn't been in these spots.

You know, like this is his first real NFL playoff game. He's had big college games. He's coached in the NFL before. But this is different. And so now you've got Shanahan who's been there. And, you know, you think about Kyle Shanahan dating all the way back to 283 and obviously not throwing the football late in the game is why they lost the game, in my opinion. I was on the field for that game.

Like, that's why they lost the game. And you could put that squarely on. And some great rush. Well, you put that on Kyle Shanahan, Trey Flowers. You put that on Kyle Shanahan. And, you know, you're talking about six years. later, seven years later, you're back in the same situation. You've been there before. You've been a throwaway with Jimmy G. I'm a huge fan of Kyle Shanahan. He's great. It probably means more to him than

you know. I mean, you know, because when you miss those opportunities most times, you don't get them back, whether you're a coordinator or head coach. And for Dan Campbell, the sad thing was at the end of that game, I thought I saw a quote where he said, guys, you don't know if this is your last shot. Like, I'm not sure if we'll ever have another shot. And that's the realest thing you can say to your team because my dad when he played, he played in the Super Bowl early in his career, never got back, came close a few times. But, you know, when he'd say go talk to a team or something, you'd go talk to like the Vikings or something. And I'd be like, what'd you tell them? And he's like, you know, like you young guys that think this is how it is in the NFL, you're always,

if you're young on a team and you get to the Super Bowl, if you were a young guy on that Eagles team a couple years ago, you're thinking we're going every year. Last year, we're going every year. It's hard to get back. And so for Shanahan, this is a big opportunity. You never had that. You never had that early in your career where you were like, okay, so my rookie year was the year.

We had a play-in game in week 17 against Aaron Rogers and the Packers at home. He beat us where John Coon cut block, Julius Peppers. Rogers rolled left and flicked the bean out there to old Randall Cobb, I believe it was. I'm calling it Flick the Bean now when you throw the football. Now, starting now. It looks like a coffee bean when you're watching on TV.

And the way these guys throw it now, they kind of flicked it. Yeah. Who was the safety in that? We're not naming names. But it was a couple guys back there, all right? He just flicked the bean out there. But the point is I was a young player, and I remember telling my other rookie, Jordan Mills. I was like, we'll be back next year.

And I think we went 3 and 13 next year. So to your point, The opportunities are few and far between in this league. But I think Jared Goff has done enough to prove that he's good enough for Detroit, just like Dan said. And you were kind of on the fence about how we drafted Hooker. Like, you know, is Hooker going to flick the bean? You like this team.

You know, like. You like this. Now Jared Golf. Etymology? Now Jared Goff gets to flick the bean for the foreseeable future because he's played well enough. And like I said, if God. guys make catches in this game. Great. You know, I think they win the game, but they didn't make the plays that they had to make, and Brock made the plays. It's just like Jordan Love didn't make the plays last week. The quarterback didn't make the plays as bad as you wanted to say that Jordan Love outplayed Purdy because he played like dog shit for a few quarters. The most important quarter is the fourth. The most important half is the second half, and Purdy played his best ball in the second half. It was really telling to me, the one thing that's important, as you understand,

is the emotional intelligence and being present in the moment and not getting too high, not getting too low. At the end of the game, Niners get the ball, and they're going to run the clock out. They're going to take a couple of knees, and the game's over. And you can see how calm and present in the moment Brock Purdy is until the very moment that his knee hits the ground. And once his knee hits the ground, he explodes. That's a guy who's been there before.

He's a winner. I don't care if it was Little League football. I don't care if it was high school football. The moment's not too big for it. That's a guy who knows how to do everything in the game and then take the knee the right way and then celebrate the right way. In this matchup, so we were talking about rematch. But he's got to go play Patrick.

In this rematch between head coaches, it's the fourth Super Bowl rematch all time, Chuck Newell, Tom Landry, a couple of, Coughlin and Belichick, and now Reed and Shanahan, in each of the three previous instances, the team that won the first time,

won the second time as well yeah yeah because you know they're the same teams like Brady twice and you know now you're going to get this I mean same bones of these teams I mean probably a better quarterback in Brock Party but then Jimmy G but should every team be managed by a former or Hall famer and coach by a coach's son yes that's the new blueprint so you got you're on to something there Okay. Do you think we'll get a Travis Kelsey passing touchdown in the Super Bowl? Yes, dude.

Come on. Next question. Next question. He's on his props already. It's wild. Let's hear from our friends at Little Seasers. Let's hear from them. You want to do it?

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the pick six, having returned one during Super Bowl 37. We were there, Chris. We were there for them. We were there. That play led to a 44-yard touchdown and a win for the Buccaneers, so accept the challenge today and win some people. Actually, Kyle, you were there because you're dad's favorite. Where were you?

I was at home. You were drinking beers. your friends yeah i was when the when the when the chase and tay when the cats away the mice will play you were jason tay yeah i was i was i remember when dad left for the super bowl uh when the rams played the titans we had a snow day the next day so it was like double whammy i sleep over snow day the whole thing oh boy and uh we stole dad's cigars and and went out in the tundra and smoked the i don't mean the car but like out there in the frozen tundra and we smoked the cigar the literal tundra you know we used to you know we used to when the we had when the

cats away. When men were men. When men were men. And Faith Hill did the half time back in the day, Faith Hill. Britain Spears wasn't locked up. Yeah, no. We had a lot of starlets during our formative years. Okay. Time for America's teams. Time for America's teams. America's teams. Kyle, why don't you kick this thing off? You know what? I really enjoy this segment. I like it every week. And if you're new to the show, it's been tougher as we've gone on throughout the season, Chris, right? Because obviously there's... Now we only got two teams, so we've got to get a little creative here. There we do.

Number one, I'm going to just get to go, the city of Detroit, the state of Michigan, from the UP to the southern border, the state that looks like a glove, who couldn't manage to cover Brock Purdy yesterday in the fourth quarter. I give you guys so much credit because this run has been... been historic. You guys have been as much of a part of this thing as the Detroit Lions. It's been impressive the whole way throughout the supporting the backing for Dan Campbell. The Jared Gough chance throughout the game in Santa Clara. That's where it was. Santa Clara, I was going to say Santa Jose, Chris. Yeah, wherever it is. But the Lions fans, you've been awesome the whole way through from the people in the stadium to the companies that allowed their workers off for certain shifts

to be able to watch the game. I think it was a really classy deal. It encompassed what it means to be, I guess, a Michigander. That's a Marshall coming out of Hayden, Marshall Mathers. Yeah. Marshall Mathes. Barry Sanders was excited. It was funny.

You all sent that picture of Eminem flipping the people off out of the box, and I couldn't see his face, and I was just like, are you just showing me a Detroit fan, which is what makes it great. It could have been anybody. And Marshall flipping the middle finger. He's been doing that since. Yeah. But the best thing I love about it is Marshall was probably so locked into the game with that pitcher.

It looks like his box is mainly just him. Which is great. Which is a guy. He probably put a little bit like a wager on the game and you want to be in there. He wants a living room in the stadium. Exactly. If I was really rich. I don't want to hear anyone else's opinion that will piss me off during this game.

I don't want to talk. Like when my dad used to go to games, he said the worst thing was he'd be up in the suite. He had sitting in the stands. And I think one game, he actually sat in the stands for one of my college games, like down at Georgia Tech, and I felt bad for him. Because, like, people just bug him the whole time. But in the suite, it's almost worse. Yeah.

You know, because there are people that think that, like, we're friends and, like, they want to talk. Through the whole game, my dad doesn't want to hear it. Eminem doesn't want to hear it. You're up. Number two. I'm not talking to poo. Rescue zoos. I didn't mean for all that to rhyme.

Rescue zoos, number two, America's teams. Families at the zoo today. Again, we've talked about the zoo on the show before. I think it's awesome. And I think it's a good segue coming out of the Detroit Lions getting mauled. Rescue zoos are a great place for Lions to rehabilitate. Number three. Peter Schrager.

Yeah. What a big brain that guy has. Yeah, I know, right? And a really great guy. Yeah, he's been picking the Super Bowls. Picking all the Super Bowls. I don't know exactly how many. Let's just say it's more than on one hand.

And it's really impressive. And I think he makes a great point when he says, look, if nobody's going to toot your horn, then it's not going to be toot it. So to that, I will toot your horn and you toot your horn. That's the thing about this business. The only people who are going to remind you that you were right were the people that agreed with you.

Other people in the media are not going to do that. They're not going to do that. They don't give each other credit. And for Peter, I'm sure he's just sitting there like, dude, why don't I get any fucking credit? I've been like Miss Cleo for five years. You know? Call me now.

Call me now. It's Ms. Clio. Okay, number four? Yeah, number four. People who didn't entertain the Super Bowl logo bullshit. Yeah. That's number four. Number five.

Media members. It's Super Bowl Week. By the way, it's two weeks, but I'm just going to say it's Super Bowl Week. Can we all be on the same page there? It's not a crime, right? Media members, it's Super Bowl Week now. you know we've been waiting all year for this so we get to go to las Vegas everybody gets to network i mean ralphson studio here we're in charlton we're not in Vegas yet but we get an opportunity as a

team to go out there and i'm going to be out there with cbs unload your guns uh as it pertains to your stories and have a great time in los vegas it's going to be awesome and go chiefs can't wait oh here i am trying to find a bookmark uh on on x i don't even know how to do that um Be careful. Well, no, I don't have anything bad bookmarked. Unlike some. All right. My America's teams?

Yes. Okay. People who stand on business. Standing on business. That's me. Riquant Smith. Because I've been standing on business all year on the Chiefs. Now you've got to cry it out.

Okay. I'll go Kelsey and Swift. Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift. Listen, I just want to talk as honestly as I can. I don't barely know a single Taylor Swift song. I don't think Taylor Swift is going to make her way onto my Spotify. I have no interest in consuming Taylor Swift content, but I could give a fuck less about the people who have acted

like it's some huge impediment to watching football this year. Like, let's be serious. We had our fun run with it when it first came out, and we got in the content game. We were like, oh, they're showing her so much. But, like, if you didn't take the opportunity to watch Patrick Mahomes through the playoffs because you don't want to see cutaways of Taylor Swift, you have a micro penis. Like, that's the only thing I heard it.

That's the only thing I can think of. Like, honestly, because this is just some opportunity to prove your masculinity and say, I don't like looking at Taylor Swift. Who gives a fuck, man? This might be the biggest power couple in the history of sports. Victoria Beckham, David Beckham. They're taller. And they have.

They're more important right now. They have the lead up right now, too. Spice Girls, Taylor Swift. I'm going to go to Taylor. have the lead-up to make the biggest story ever, a couple story ever, too, because Travis Kelsey walking into the sunset, winning another ring, maybe proposing to Taylor, if he had to, oh, that's moving quick. Proposing to Taylor under the confetti.

That's wild. Under the confetti. Oh, my God. After. Yeah. And then tell everyone I'm retiring with his brother. And what's wrong with some of you? And then they're going to ride out on a horse together, a white horse?

And then we're just going to see the best videos of him traveling the world with his. with his fiance. But what's wrong with some people? They don't like love? I think it's the cool thing. I love my wife. I'm not angry about this. It's a movie.

Like I have somebody to love. Maybe a lot of people are upset because they don't have somebody to love. I'm not going to lie. I switched my stance because at the beginning of this season, I did think it was manufactured. And even if it was,

for it to be going this well and then to fight through all the media stuff that's happening, I support it now. No, I mean, listen, at the end of the day, it's much ado about nothing unless you're a fragile little baby.

And shout out to Ushach's wife, because we're probably going to see some cool ass. So I think that's great. In the next two weeks, she's probably so busy with the fire coat and the gear coming out, so that's going to be dope. And I think that's great. And those are two gals who have done their own thing. You know, Taylor Swift, obviously, Taylor Swift.

That's a mogul status there. But, you know, making a jacket for Taylor Swift, that's not like, I'm a player's wife, you know, listen to me because I'm married to an NFL player, which there's a lot of that. Oh, man. This is, this is like, I have a craft and I'm really good at it. And I'm taking an opportunity. You're standing on business from a business person.

Full circle. Yeah. Anyways. All right. Let's see. Me and you, Kyle, America's team. Wow. Because we had a really great night the other night, dude.

I bought Madden last week. I forgot about this. And I just want to tell you guys. I hadn't played Madden since college because there was a point where I was like I just don't have time and like the game play is just it's accelerating at a high speed and it's really not.

Well at that point for me it was like yeah. Yeah, it's a big game. Okay, so I peaked in like 06. Back in the day when I had you on your visit, we sat in the house and drank 40s and played Madden. Me and Clint, it was me, I was the Eagles. And Clint was this before I played the Eagles. Chris was controlling Javon Curse on defense.

Uh-huh. Yeah, it was sick. And that was like the apex for me. But then a couple weeks ago, I was like, you know, something's missing from my life. You know, I want to play video games. Here's why it happened. I got a great friend named William Hayes. You guys know William Hayes, guy I play with in St. Louis.

And just to tell you guys how fucked up the game can be, he's 38 years old. He just had his hip replace. He's in a wheelchair until, like, I was like, do you want to come to Super Bowl? He's like, I'm in a motherfucking wheelchair, dog. surgeon and I was like we'd get a handicapped playing we get the whole thing we'll wheel you all over the city he didn't want to go um you brought me to the super bowl when I was in a chair yeah yeah so it can be done and so yeah it's accessible and then meg was like meg was like you should really get a play station so you guys can play together and like hang out together so I got the playstation

shout out to me yeah yeah still have still haven't played will but the first thing I did your other brother is I was like Kyle we got to play like he He's in a Madden League. Kyle's in like a Madden League. I've been in my first year of the Madden League. I just got the Eliminator from the playoffs. I'm hard to hear that. Well, it's not your first year though.

Well, it's my first actual calendar year. OK. Kyle's been playing a lot. So I'm like, I really want to play. I can barely get him to hang out, you know. So it was great to like get good way to network. Yeah, it's a good way to get you in your happy place, which is in your den. And we played a game.

I just, I don't want to skip over the score. I won the first game. won the first game. There was some very... Can we talk about what happened? We talked about it. It was a great game. Chris won by seven points.

I forget who I played with. Who did I play with? You played with the Chiefs. I think I had the Bills. In the first game, I had the Chiefs. Yeah, yeah, I had the Chiefs, and I forget who caught the ball over the middle, but I did the both...

You got Zay Flowers. I did the celebration at the goal line, and I got tackled and fumbled it. Yeah, you were the Ravens. All back and scored. Yeah, you were basically the Ravens in this scenario. I got the ball back and scored. Okay, so then Kyle's like,

all right, you want to play for real, to play six minute quarters and I was the Packers and he was somebody else and who was a I don't remember but the bottom line is you won that game we did three random so we're one-in-one and uh I played online I was C.J. Stroud you were Jordan Love yes I stayed up late the other night and got online play going and there was there was this kid and you know like the last time last time I played mad you couldn't even you couldn't even the last time we played madden you couldn't even you couldn't even talk to other people let alone play online Now I got a voice coming out of my controller.

I'm like, who's in the room? I'm like, I'm hearing this kid. He's like, yo. I'm like, oh, fuck, this kid's going to talk shit to me. He's like, you think you're going to win? I was like, I just got the game, buddy. Like, I really don't want any smoke. You know, I don't want to be cussing a kid out at, you know, midnight.

First off, why are you awake? I dog walked him. He quit in the first quarter. The other night I got my ass kicked by some guy who really knows his shit in Kentucky. And he was coaching me through the whole game. He was telling me things to do what I play. Yeah, I was like, I love being a part of this community now, Kyle. The Madden community's dope.

So Madden community. And there's people online, just like anything else you say online, you say the sky is blue. Somebody has an issue with it. I said, this Madden is incredible. I haven't played in over 10 years. They're like, it sucks. Everyone is typing. I'm like, yeah, well, why does it suck?

They're like, because it doesn't barely change the last 10 years every year. It's just an incremental change. It's called football. I'm like, well, I took it. I'm Rip Van Winkle. I haven't played, you could imagine why I think it's great. Yeah. Because I hadn't even played over the last 10 years.

Like Napoleon going to the ice cream. Yeah, the pigly-wiggly. Ziggie piggy. Ziggy-piggy. Ziggy-piggy. I was like him after my third game, sitting at the table just. Then the water park, don't even get me stuck. Yeah, the water park.

Finally, the contestants of the new hit show, Farmer Wants a Wife. Oh, that. That's going to be a great show. Must see. Yeah. The plot is obviously four hardworking farmers who are in search of real lasting love. These women are hoping to harvest a husband. I'm going to be honest.

They seem like Bakersfield farmers. Bakersfield, California. Yeah, you know, they're a little bit dressed up. They're not putting the guy in Des Moines. They got their teeth done. Yeah, like, so, I mean, just to watch out for these gals here, there's Rebecca, who's a horse trainer. Look out for her.

That feels like a really good fit. but I just want to throw into... You're picking winners already. I think Lily's got real potential. She's a photographer of Nashville. I don't know what she would do on the farm, but if she can find a way to upset the likes of Rebecca, who actually brings a real skill set in a farming situation.

The equestrian skill set. Yeah, exactly. And this air is on Sundays at 7 p.m. So be sure you check this out. Where can we find it? I think you can find it on Fox. Also, the last... Okay, I got to...

Before you get off of this topic, because I think there's a lot to unpack here. Do you have any buddies that you would think are cut out for this show? To be a ton, dude. If John Phillips was single, I mean, it would be incredible. He'd win. Well, he'd win, and then the chick would leave in two days

because JP would be like, I'm going to be hunting. I'm going home. We're eating possum tonight. You know, like, every two days, he wants to go back to Bath County, Virginia. his poor wife Nikki she's like I just want to live somewhere where there's like people within yeah 15 square miles John Phil's play for the Cowboys drives an 18 wheel at a soft yeah dude no he drove a dump truck we're like we're like

where's our slugger and a dump truck pulls our best hitter the best hitter that ever played in our league yeah he gets out of a dump truck and it drops like three bombs the guy is literally living in 1970 rural America and you would win me I know JP. Yeah. He brought me firewood recently. It was awesome. A little soggy.

Okay. And that was big because, like, you know, it's emasculating when another man drops off firewood for you. That's it in your driveway, you know? And then, like, two days later, Meg's like, this stuff's a little like, I'm like, yeah, you don't, it's not, I would give it. I would, I would make sure if I ever did cut the wood for this family. This kindling would be.

Okay. Last thing. Last thing. The Rivana Swim Club. Guys, Kyle, you should really think about. joining it's incredible Kyle so basically cowboy reed big shout out to cowboy Reed and the people down at Rivana River Company in Charlottesville Tom put it together Tom put it together Reed's a member there basically it's it's like the

Norwegian thing it's like sauna polar bears really hot sauna and then jump in the river and the other day we got in the river on Friday we got ten of us together and we we did the sauna and then we jump at the river the river was 40 degrees oh Nate didn't want to get in all the way I was in. But I was trying to dunk you. The key is staying in that hot tub long enough before you don't. It's not a hot tub. It's just sauna. So you get super hot.

You get super hot. You sweat. Same thing, right? It's the cold. It's the cold, hot thing. For four hours after that, I was the happiest I've been this calendar year. My lower body felt amazing. Yeah. Was that the night you called me for Madden? Yeah, I was in a good mood. You were juiced. Yeah, I was a great move because I had just gotten in the river.

It was annoying. He called me. He was so happy. We had a roll reversal. Well, I was also happy to, you know, play Madden with, with, I was like, what do you fucking one. Yeah, exactly. It was the roll reversal. So those are my America's teams, man. Those are my America's teams. All right, let's hear from Miller-Light before we get to the moments. We got a...

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So make it entertaining for these guys. Send in your pictures to the QR code. Tidy Whitey's? No, I was a kid. Dad was in the commercial. We were on a hammock. I remember that. Yeah, it was cool.

It was before there were stricter rules on children in advertising. Yeah, I didn't get a check for that. In underwear. That was a way long ago thing. Oh, shucks. They wouldn't let me wear underwear, Kyle. You were naked? No.

I was in, like, Haynes socks. Yes. Yeah. You know? Only. Haynes got fired socks. All right, best flight. Best flight.

Best flight. Your socks. I'll go best flight first. Okay. First off, the Chiefs, but more specifically, the third and nine go ball to Marquez. Oh, that was the family. Yeah. The way that it flew.

Yeah. Just in particular. Uh-huh. Because there was a play in 2018. I don't know if you remember this in the wild card game that you and I play, the double-doin game for those of you at home, where Tribeschi had Anthony Miller. We had a pre-snap read where he knew it was going to be one-on-one with no safety up. You guys dialed up pressure, and we had the go ball.

We had it, but we didn't make the play. I think it was just out of reach fingertips of Anthony Miller. That's the Matt Nagy check in that play, and Matt Nagy gets that obviously from Andy Reid, but we saw Andy Reid's group of guys. You tell me that he is letting Matt Nagy down and find me. No, Anthony Miller maybe didn't look over the right shoulder. There's a lot that goes into that, as you know.

MVS got his whole body around and made a great play. And good for him, because, you know, for much of the year, It was like these idiots. And yeah, I was one of those people. It was like, come on, guys, you're fucking it up. But they've made the plays. And Patrick, it's just like, he's so good that he gives these guys opportunities. He's like, no, no, no, trust me.

Like, I'm right. Just catch it. Also, Rishi Rice becoming a yak guy for them. I mean, you know, like, that's huge. Them having a guy that can give you that yak. Because that's something they've lived off of, low key for a while. And so having that guy. Best flight.

Flight 87. Okay. Now, I'm going to explain this to you. I was told last night. No, well, yeah, maybe. So Americans' flight in 1989 is scheduled to run twice from Kansas City to Las Vegas on February 9th and February 10th, both departing at 12th, 1230 p.m. local time. And after the game, Flight 87 leaves Las Vegas for Kansas City at 12.m. local time on February 12th.

Okay. So, Kyle, what I was explaining to me, that 1989 is a Taylor Swift song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or it's an album or something. I thought you were going a different direction. That's a flight, but flight 87 on the way back, I think that's going to be a good flight. I've told you what I think probably happens in that game. I think flight 87 is going to be a lot of fun for Chiefs fans.

And if you think about getting on a flight, the day you won the Super Bowl, you've got to be shithouse. That flight is going to be incredible. Or it's going to be like a hell of people have missed that flight. A lot of people miss that flight. A lot of people miss that flight. And I'll say this. It's hard to leave Vegas. That Kansas City airport.

they've made a lot of improvements there and I think it's funny that a football team can have that effect on the infrastructure of a city of a nation a country I mean and Taylor Swift is what's her fucking GDP she is a nation yeah she is a nation this whole thing is a lot of good

a lot of good numbers a lot of good numbers so worst fight for me it's Dan Campbell how many countries have a lower GDP than Taylor Swift I don't know. It's worth of Google. At least 10.

Okay. It's worth a Google. Okay. Let's just say Taylor Swift could probably start her own civilization off planet. Mm-hmm. Swippy. All right. Worst flight, Dan Campbell.

Her tour this summer generated more revenue than the GDP of 35 countries combined. Chris looked up like, what the fuck? That's insane. This summer 53% of results in the United States. It's pretty impressive. consider themselves Swift fans. Her tour alone set to earn $1 billion in ticket sales

and contribute $5.7 billion to the U.S. economy. So when America dominates, we got no problem. When Taylor Swift dominates, it's like we can't have that. That's why she said, it's me. I'm the problem, it's me. Worst flight, M&M.

Yeah. I mean, even though I know the Jets really clean and it's probably empty, if you had to imagine just like the sweet, I did this rap last night. lines conspiring hiring some guy from from the pan handle dan campbell pressure he can't handle and golf he can't scramble Josh Reynolds can't hold a candle that's how far I got but but if I was m&m I would just I would make a song and it'd be the best song that he's put out in a while

just an angry it'll be like a new a Detroit it'll be the new just a reaction to that game he should really Eminem district should really do a track where he's not necessarily dissing his own team but like just summarizing the game. There's a dude that goes viral that's from Detroit, and he's a huge Detroit fan. He's been doing it every week with just the wins and losses. And I'm excited to see his video because he's a super Detroit fan. And he, like, even when they've lost and done things bad,

he wraps and he does really well, like with doing the analogies. You got to. That's a real niche, man. It really is. After I read it, it kind of reminds me of Chris DeLea. because he did a really good Eminem. Go ahead. So I'm not trying to step on his turf, but like,

the four door portion. I can't even do it like he was doing it. But this is, this is, yeah, Eminem could have spent a play. Chris Leia also does a podcast with his brother. Does he?

Yeah. That's interesting. It's good. Is his brother enormous? No, I've actually seen it. They look cartoonishly alike. But separate.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We're going Bebel Conway. Yes. I'm going first, I guess. Bevel Conway is going to be Chiefs Ravens. The thing that I appreciated about that matchup was,

it was rainy, it was nasty, we had all that stuff, but the playing surface was good. We didn't see guys on the ground. That's the way football is meant to be played outdoors in the winter months, meaningful football. Shout out to the Baltimore Ravens field crew. Great job. Beville Conway.

I'm going to go Bebel Conway, the PM game. I felt like, you know, inevitably during the playoffs, you could be stuck inside for a while and not even realize it. Like, we don't have any windows really per se up here. And we're locked into that first cage match and hadn't been outside. And then they put on TV, there's just vitamin D coming through the screen. Feels good. I feel like we actually got vitamin D through the screen.

It was so beautiful. You know, I want to say candlestick. It's the Rose Bowl effect. Yeah, it's that, it's that Bay Area air, dude. It looks different on TV. It's California. The grass looks different. Barry Sanders.

electric blue, you know, a blazer looked awesome. The shot of the stadium, even though I'm a candlestick guy, facing north, like looking at one of the salt ponds behind there, and you've got San Francisco way off in the distance, the smoke from the fucking the fireworks. Like, it was a gorgeous shot. The uniforms, dude, it was awesome. They're classic.

It was awesome. Classic, classic, classic. So anti-bevil Conway. I hated the taunting, Chris. I hated the taunting a lot. Here's why. Imagine a world where every kid behave like that. Where every time that you were a good guy that spent some time down at the school or the team,

you give your time and kids are behaving like that. Imagine trying to be a kid competing in the environment where you get shown up by your peers if you maybe don't do as well as them in a game. I understand that in life there's winners and losers. I understand that in football there's winners and losers. I understand celebrating with your team and Nate is prepping his rifle. to shoot back here. But I think that it's bad for ball

if you're taunting like that. What is the difference? What is your difference between taunting and celebrating the good play? If you get up, if you get up after you make a play and Sneed tackles you

and you get up and you go towards your guys and you fist pump and you slam the ball, that's awesome. First down, all that stuff. Flex, do that. Hit one of the options on that. That's what I want to see. I want to see people celebrate.

But what you don't do is you turn your celebration into a degradation of somebody else. Hold on. So doing the first down and looking at someone while you're doing that, that's not taunting. What are you arguing? That's the better question. I'm arguing the- Usually that question is a dead-out. I think shoving a player while he's down, I think throwing a ball out of player.

How do you like celebrating? Because realistically, when you're celebrating, you're doing some sort of taunting to the other team. Here, here, I'm not anti, like, I like shit talk. I like, I like all that stuff. I think we all do. But, but what, we can't pick and choose. But nobody's picking and, I'm saying we can't, I'm saying we can't pick and choose. No, I just think that there's a line you cross.

And also when you, the anti-Belvel Conway for me is really the moment, understanding the moment. Yeah, like not getting a flag in those. Oh, no, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, if I'm one of his teammates, I'm so frustrated. But also I'm understanding because you're a young guy, you don't understand. But like, I don't think there's a place for it in the game. Oh, I think so. Up three scores.

Guys been talking shit. High-lo-in-law-ball game. I'm going to drag my nuts on him. I'm going to talk to him. I'm going to try to frustrate it. That's what I'm going to. But the situation. No, no, but like, aware with all to understand that you're on an island with a guy one-on-one.

You're in the middle of open field. All eyes are on you. It's not only as a playoff game, it's a championship Sunday game. And you're down. Your team needs points. And you're probably going to be the guy that's going to lead your team down there outside of Lamar Jackson. I just don't agree with it. And I think about young kids who are getting into this sport. We have so many people getting pushed away from football right now. There's so many

bad narratives about this game. But all of us in this room, we love the game, the people in the chat, the reason they're here is because of how much fun the game is. We like big hits. We like shit talking. But one thing I don't like is cheap shots and I don't like trying to make a fool out of somebody else. When you could be using that to positively celebrate with your guys, you can do your own dance. I don't give a fuck. You can first down it all day. Travis Kelsey does it, but it's never really shoving a guy,

standing over him, doing whatever. Well, I think particularly in the big moments. Go back and look. Particularly in the big moments. Go find me a game where he's done that in the big moments, in the biggest moments. I got you. It's bad for ball. I got you. Because it's going to lead to a lot of

offenses stalling out in situations like that. And usually, this is you. Usually you, old ball coach guy, you know, that You know, I'm huge on that. But I also think Zay Flowers, like I said, I'm caping for him a little bit. I think he got that penalty called because when he went to do the wide receiver little spin thing, which realistically, we're saying we're okay, it hit, it hit the player. I think you got it because of the flex and the look down.

I don't, I think they let guys do that. Like if you watch a, I think they do. Specifically a point of emphasis. Point of emphasis. Yeah, but I mean, either way, I think it was. Either way, taunting there, like, there's a place. for taunting the taunting can make game fun but I think I'm not putting words in your mouth but for me the taunting in a tight ball game and a playoff like it's such a no it's such a no

brain no brainer um like we've seen this year a lot of intrusive thoughts taking over for guys this year with just penalties and taunting and things like you said in the moment it's just like intrusive like you know I shouldn't be doing this but in the time and thing it's just like I want I got to do this because obviously, like, he would probably want to take that play back. But in that moment, that intrusive thought, that excitement, that adrenaline, it took over. And I want to. Took over when he hurt his hand on the sideline, too. I'll say this, fly on the wall.

I know that there were babies made at halftime of that Lions game. Yeah, yeah, they were like, we're going. This is the best baby. This is going to be the chosen one. And now they're like, you were supposed to, the baby was supposed to be named Dan. And then they're like, Barry. you know like there's a lot to unpack

there white berries running around in a year because they were supposed to be Dan's but they're berries now confusing I'm just saying all right so a little a wall a fly on the wall I've got I've got what was

Antonio Brown up to this weekend what do you do? Okay first off he was like I missed it he was he I know what he was doing he was he was somewhere and he got a emotional because big games, they make us all emotional, right? Like they really do. Like, it's easy for us to watch these games and miss it. And the big moments, that's where he was great. And he said, never get a divorce. It was a picture of him and Big Ben hugging each other at the

Pro Bowl. And then he quote tweeted his own tweet with, Miss That Cracker. And I'm all for, I'm all for people using the word because I love saying the word cracker. Yeah. I think Antonio. That's a big cracker right there. Yeah, it is. Big writs. Big reds. I'm a wheat thin. Big, big, big tall pack of ritz crackers right there. I'm more of a tablaron.

Fucking saltine. I got pointed edges. But you know, and I'm kind of sweet. I kind of. Oh, wait, before we move on, did you know that Ritz crackers are manufactured the way they are so that you can cut pieces of, like,

single pieces of cheese? Yes. You can cut them with lines and it works. If you roll a Ritzker, the way the edges are, you can cut cheese with it. Oh, it's like a pizza cutter. I got it.

Oh, yeah, it does cut the cheese. Yeah, I think I saw that before. That's cool. It's one of those life hacks. But anyways, I think Antonio Brown is just... Having fun. He's just... Emotional.

I just wonder what he was up to. So I deep dove into this a little bit, and I think what he is doing, which would be a good rollout. I think he's rolling out his own podcast, which I think it's going to be called C-T-E-S-P-N. Yeah, that's his new thing. Which is genius. Which is genius. Which is genius.

Which is genius. Hard hitting tag. Genius marketing. And I think that this weekend, he was like, you know what? Everyone's going to be watching football. This is the perfect time to do this. But if he is rolling out of podcast, he's probably sitting there thinking, damn, I really fucked up because who has a podcast right now?

Tom Brady and Ben Rothersberger. Who realistically, if he didn't fuck shit up with. with would probably be more than willing. You can do let's go with Jim Gray, Antonio Brown, and Tom Brady. Two guys, two guys. Can you imagine Jim Gray, Tom Brady and Antonio Brown? Bro, exactly.

It is just like two guys that probably would have been willing to be like, yo, Antonio, for sure, come on and sit with me, which would probably jump start. Jim Gray makes a point. He's like, Tom, who is this cracker? Could you imagine? But he probably fucked that up so badly. Yeah, he fucks everything. And now he's thinking about it.

All right. Well, so I go, I go fly on the wall. And then you get it flying the wall. Go best seat. This is really cool. I got a cool dad, right? We got a cool dad. He's done a lot of cool shit.

Like, my dad has lived an incredible life where it's like, if you just sit down and be like, dad, tell me some stories about like the things you did, the people you met. He's got good stories. There's stories of like. You wouldn't believe. I think was it Stephen Stills or somebody like where he loves this story where he's at Lila Al Zado's house in like the 80s and somebody was playing piano. And it was like 27 reasons or 21 reasons.

what's the buy-byes, 49 by-bys, which, it's not a song I know, but dad was like, this guy on the piano, he's over there playing 49 bye-bys, and I'm like,

he walks up and he walks up and he's like, hey, that sounds like 49 bye-bys. And the guy's like, yeah, I wrote it. And like, you know, there's stories like that, there's stories like, you know, when I met Kareem, like at first Kareem didn't really want to take a picture or anything.

And then he found out that it was me and he was like, I love your dad, bro. Like, we used to hang out and like, you know, you hear things where you're like, Dad, do you have fucking, you've had a good run, dude. But last night, we're getting ready to watch the game,

and I get a text from Dad on the field, and it's a picture of him and a guy on the field, and I know who the guy is. And Dad, dad's text under the picture was, Bob Weir from the Grateful Dead. I'm like, I know who Bob Weir is, man. You know, like, you don't have to tell me. Also, Bob Weir is incredibly recognizable,

but if you're not a deadhead, it's like last night, I'm in the I'm in the group chat friends at the NFL and Ryan Clark's like who was that guy with your dad and I'm like Bob Weir and he's like still not doing it I'm like I'm like grateful dead he's like I know them I know the name yeah yeah grateful if you're not a dead head or you don't know the dad like when you guys showed the picture yesterday you wouldn't have known I didn't want to be the guy to stay in the moment but when they showed around you were talking about this yesterday you look who my dad I was just like but he got a picture with bob weir and the coolest part for me was Bob Weir knew who I was. Bob Weir was like I used to watch him play

when he was in St. Louis. I was like, you fucking kidding me, Dad? I hope you fucking got him on the waiting list for the podcast here. I hope we can get Bob Weir on the podcast. Dad's got a new friend now. Well, they talked for supposedly like a couple minutes and Bob Weir was was like a football guy, like new football. You know, which is really cool. So, the footballer wrote a lyric to blackthroated wind that defines you. I left St. Louis, City of Blues in the midst of a storm I'd most rather forget. Oh, Bob Weir, dude. Bob Weir needs to come on the show and talk about that.

In addition to Bob Weir being a football guy, so was Stephen Stills. Browns fan. So Stephen Stills, like you said, he would go to these parties and get to know these guys, but really, Stephen Stills had an angle. He was like, get me a media pass. Right. Yeah, yeah, this is crazy. So Stephen Stills got disguised.

I think it was like some cheap glasses. and a mustache and a media pass from one of the Raiders and would go in during open locker room and interview guys because he enjoyed sport so much and I guess he enjoyed journalism. Is that incredible or what? And the guys would keep it together and answer his question. I guess the point is, as cool as like anything my dad's done

and my dad's done a lot of cool shit, like football's cool. But, you know, like old stories you hear and the people he's met, I thought that picture was up there. Like, to me, that picture was way up there. like dad you need to frame this picture. Bob we are from the Grateful Dead. There's also another story about dad that just popped in my head. Tell it. So dad has saved a lot of people from stuff and we've talked about that at length. One time we were coming up from Little League practice. We got out at the gas station to fill up and there was an old lady filling up her car. She'd just

gotten out of her car. I'm talking like 90 something years old. And dad was kind of watching her. You know, like when she got out of her car, like is she okay that she need help? She wasn't okay. didn't put her car in park the thing started going in circles around the parking lot and she's just standing there dad ran over it jumps in it you know what i mean yeah johnny on the spot casually puts it back parks it puts the thing in he's like be careful now all right like nothing happened of it there was also a car accident in montana dad passed by a a terrible car accident there was a car flipped over on the side of the road mangled he got out told mom to stay in the car and he went couldn't see anybody in the car and so he checked the ditch like a hundred you know 90 feet away there was a young woman who had just been yeah

like you know in a bad bad shape and dad called paramedics and waited there and dad said the largest man he'd ever seen showed up was her dad and it was her dad yeah must have been seven foot two like montana guy like 400 pounds and a car hard i think dad had to go into the brush and like help out yeah yeah dad was like he was like kind of he just he's always he's always johnny on spot trying to do the right thing he's a tall tail it's kind of like his life has got a little bit of like uh if forrest gump was a genius remember big fish where it's like because my dad's really smart the only thing they have in common is they end up in all these places where you're like how the fuck did dad they run like a motherfucker yeah i could run like but like but make no mistake

about it brilliant guy not making that comparison but the thing i always see it's like donna Kelsey right now. He's got some Gus to him. She's got some Forrest Gump where like she just pops up in all these cool places and you're like she's in these pictures with Taylor Swift. She's with an all state commercials. Dad's done it all man and and Bob Weir is up there for me. Let me mean Bob Weir. Who you go? Best seat. Best seat. Steve Spags on the flight home. You know you're already walking with your chest out a little bit but when you sit on that airplane it's kind of the first moment of calm after the game where people have already looked at their mentions and they've done they're inward looking outwardly, I guess you could say.

And then they start to look around the plane when there's no Wi-Fi and it's just your voice. And I know that bags probably went back, spoke to some of these guys and talked about the week very briefly, but then it's on to San Francisco. He knows the challenge ahead. You still think their plays don't have Wi-Fi? I mean, they got Wi-Fi, but not under 10,000 feet. You have to log in. You got to log in.

And that's a lot. And there's no game to watch. A lot of times you have a game to watch. Also, I just want to say this about Spags, when he came on the show, and, you know, for Chiefs fans or anybody that wants to understand him better, used to be my head coach and a guy that I've kept in touch with, and I think a really good, solid dude, not only great coordinator, but he was really insightful on the show. And this came, like a month and a half ago or something. One of the things he said, you know, was Red Zone. You know, that was going to be an area for them. That stressed him out. I was trying to ask him a roundabout question about how they could make their Red Zone better, and he knew exactly what I was asking. and he was like, you can see his face change. And, you know, the plays that they made in the red zone in that game, like, he realized what they needed to do and they made the biggest plays in the area of the field

that he was most worried about a month and a half ago. So that's my best seat. You guys talked about Legerius Sneed a good amount too, which came through. Yeah, Sneed, huge. I mean, huge. Omanahoo, we talked about Omenahoo. Omenahoo was a big part of that game early. Like, they got a deep over.

They could hit that thing. and he takes the ball off him. He's got a worst seat? Oh, I got a worst seat. Yeah, the NFL media. I don't know if this is a joke, but they're all supposed to go stay at the Luxor. And the Luxor is obviously that big pyramid.

By the way, another dad's story, when we lived in L.A. when I was a little kid, and we used to drive up to Montana because we spent the summer a couple months when dad was off, like up there and he'd train up there and the whole thing. But the Luxor, I'll never forget.

We were driving from L.A. to Montana, we stopped in the middle of night in Vegas and it was the first time I ever saw it and I was like Vegas is like another world. I was like seven years old. Now that I'm old, I'm kind of like, this is a piece of shit, this fake pyramid. What do you mean? This thing is a piece of shit. Now, it's also cool that there's a pyramid and there's a big sphinx and the whole thing, but they've got

this thing dressed up like a Dorito. So it actually looks like a Dorito. So a bunch of the media members are all staying in a Dorito hotel. What else could they make it look like? Yeah, you're right. Like maybe one of the other buildings on this. stripped? It's not even the best Dorito. They got to do

the cool ranch. What happens to all the rooms? Yeah. What happens to all the rooms on the Dorito side? Do they not get to see out the window? It's just a hellscape. It's just an orange tint. Fuck, you're checking into your room. You're like, I hope I'm not on the Dorado side. You go out there's pitch black. The Doritos side.

So worst seat, the media. Zay Flowers' literal seat on the bench because he was punching it. He was punching it. And I'm sure it didn't like it yeah no no no so we got game ball now that's not taunting yeah that's just abuse yeah um hollow man i got a hollow man oh cj gardner johnson i got a long waving goodbye in the second quarter yikes you know the the waving thing hasn't gone well like when i talk gg in the chat when we're up eight o and yeah strike and then i just get absolutely shit house and then debaubo retweeting

after the game and say someone go check on little burrful someone who's I don't go check on a little brother because he probably feels so bad. Sick. And Debo loves to get in the mix. Oh, man. Loves me. And him playing was huge. Huge.

Huge. Hollow man. The people, I don't know if you noticed this, but it's going to be hard to get people to do the right thing about the planet. I don't think that throwing soup on Mona Lisa is going to help. Okay? So the gals that threw soup at Mona Lisa. You're fucking idiots.

Not even on it. I want the same things. I want people to think about future generations and that sort of thing and all that. But if you think that a bunch of people, oil barons and tycoons and people that are grinding the wheels of humanity are going to stop because you threw some fucking soup on Mona Lisa, they're just going to grind the wheels harder. Okay? You're actually doing a disservice. They're just going to grind the wheels harder and faster. And another thing is they have bulletproof glass on that.

painting okay so so it's all it's all show okay second hollow man creator second hollow man you know I was told you don't do anything bad with the American flag nothing you don't put it on the ground you don't hold do you still want to do this go go go do you want to do this oh no go okay Nate spotted this during the game Nate was like look at the flag I was like oh I didn't like America you can't cut a flag up to oh on the field a big flag you can't do that do that you can't do that And then you can't leave Alaska and Hawaii out. What do you do then?

What are you telling me? Well, if they had it properly. Only the lower 48 can enjoy this. If it was scaled properly, I would imagine that Hawaii would be somewhere in the D parking lot. Alaska would be maybe in the end parking lot. Yeah, Hawaii would have to be in the parking lot. Yeah. And Alaska would have to be like up in the upper deck.

And it would take a lot of space. Everybody in the upper deck, they just cover them with an Alaska shape. There's a giant blue flag somewhere in Oregon. and that's Alaska. Yeah, probably. I just thought, man, you're not supposed to do that with the flag. That's what I heard.

I got some hollow men. You're right. I'm just saying. I got some hollow men and women. Hollow men and women of Michigan that at halftime decided to buy flights to Vegas thinking their team was going to them. Oh, non-refundable.

Ooh. Do you just suck it up and take a trip to Vegas anyway? If you end up getting tickets? Yeah, you go to Vegas. Fuck, yeah, you go to Vegas. That's almost more fun. You're alone, like, you're alone. Imagine how cool the Detroit Lions fan that'll be by himself drinking at the casino in a

life next week. People will be like, hey. Yeah, dude. Like, I think the icebreaker. That's the icebreaker. I think if you're the Ravens flock, you should flock to Vegas and just take it over anyway. Ravens fans will be as well received as Lions fans. The Lions fans, everybody's like, man.

They're like, fuck, dude. I saw that. You want a fear? Yes. Yes. Yes. Go Lion. Lions fans thinking about that loss 24-7.

Oh. You see what he just did there? What? 24-7. The Lions will be thinking about this loss 24-7. Trademark. A steel memorial. That's still memorial.

That's got to be, for me, it's got to be Nick Aligretti. Right? Yeah, Nick Allegretti is a great one. Nick Aligretti, you know, a guy who's in his first year of being a dad. He's got twins. Mm-hmm. And you know how being a dad is? It's tough that first year of football, I'd imagine.

I've never done it as a pro athlete in a dad, but he's got a lot going on. And then your guy, you're all pro left guard. Joe Tooney goes down with a peck, and you're thrust into the starting role left guard. Now, granted, you had some reps against Buffalo. One thing that we've talked about at length is Nick Allegretti has been on all these runs with Andy Hacks and Patrick Mahom. So this is nothing new to him. The stage wasn't too big for him. His matchup against Matabeeke was tough as Madabike's matchup is every week with any alignment.

But great job, Nick Allegretti, great interview post game. I had fun watching you and maybe you get to do this thing again in the Super Bowl. Esteele Memorial, Patrick Mahomes' dad. One of my favorite extras in the movie that is. And Beville Conway. Game ball. Dude, I love this guy. Smoking on that Todd Monk in pack, dude.

He fucking smoking on that horrible pack. I played golf with him one time. How cool was it? In Hawaii. How cool was it? He was like the chillest mother-y-like the most normal guy. And our Venn diagram intersected obviously in baseball. He was a major league baseball player.

So he was like asking me all these questions the whole time. Is he the coolest major league baseball player of all time? There's a lot of them. I know, but this guy's cool, dude. He's on him. Patrick Williams' dad is cool. And you know what's cool about him? He said, I don't want to sit with Taylor Swift and everything.

Everybody was like making a big deal out of it. Well, imagine that. The guy fucking wanted to sit where he wanted to sit. He wanted to sit with his daughter-in-law in the suite that's not on TV the whole game. He wanted to sit with people that weren't making it seem like it was a huge surprise. His son was making plays. Right. He was offended by people celebrating because he's like, he's like, bro.

Like, you don't watch football? We know this is going to happen. I want to have Patrick Mahomes' dad on this podcast, Kyle. I mean, I think we can make it happen. I think we can make it happen because, you know, he's a good guy and he's a football fan. We just ask him about like, when did you know? Good guys slash football. Talk to me about baseball.

Talk to me about going to the game. Because we have a dad who is always like, I knew when. So Patrick Mahomes is dad, and what's his name? So I can Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes, Patrick Mahomes, Patrick Mahomes, Pat. Oh, he's Pat.

He's Pat. He's Pat. Pat Mahomes. I want to get you on the show. Okay. We think you're the best. All right. Viral moment of the week.

Game ball. Game ball. I'm giving my game ball to the 49ers owner, Jed York. 2017, he got interviewed. He asked him if he should, they asked him if he should be dismissed after he fired a head coach for the third straight year, to which he said,

I own this team. You don't dismiss owners. That's pretty good. He then went on to hire John Lynch, Kyle Shanahan, and the rest is history. I'll give one off the beaten path, a little bit. It'd be easy to give it to Patrick

or one of the quarterbacks or Brock, you know, but I'm giving it to Spags. I thought that was the biggest It's not even a hot take. That was the biggest, I mean, that was the biggest domino when you look at the final four. Is he the best defensive coordinator in big

games ever? Of our generation? I mean, Bill Belichick, but Spags, if you want to look at just a pure defensive coordinator, who's made his money in these big moments, Yeah, multiple places. He's up there, if not the one. Game ball to the script makers.

They did a great job the entire year. They threw us off. The play from the start of the year was Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift. They threw the whole logo color thing in there to throw us all off to think that they weren't going to make it. So we was fixing on that. And then what do you know? Lo and behold, we got.

But why would the script want the Lions? not in the game. I don't think Detroit's ready. Get back to us. Just get back to us. Honestly, probably because they probably don't buy enough merch. And they're not marketable enough.

People at home, take your tinfoil hats off and realize that, and there's still people trying to make this happen with the colors thing. You guys are fucking... Hey, okay, how about this? You think Usher?

You think Usher tries to get a little. little collab with Taylor for the half time? You think that's too much? Why? There's always... Huh? Why? What am I messing with the Usher thing?

He's doing half-time performing? Oh, he's doing? Yeah, then I would hope they collab. Like if she comes out of the suite? Yeah. I would hope they collab. So... Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

fly on the wall. Kanye West, watching this weekend. That's good. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I don't think What an idiot That's your thought leader Okay

What is this previous Slate of games A bunch of white kids in vans Does this change anything for you Moving forward if you're Ryan Poles Watching the quarterback play From this past weekend I think the Jordan Love thing at first made me worry

Right? You're like, damn, we got to beat this guy in division but he's not quite there yet. Like he's a damn good player. I don't know that watching any of this, because if you're in the NFC, you're going to tell me if you improve your roster

that you can't beat, you know, Jared Goff, you've already done that. Chicago did it. I mean, like, you can do that if your team's good enough. So I guess, like, part of it for me is like, hey, but now the other hand of it is if you do a scratch lotto ticket and fucking play Russian roulette in the front,

first five picks, the first pick, and you get a Mahomes on the offhand, offhand, offhand chance that he's Patrick Mahomes. You're in the NFC with Patrick Mahomes. So there's two ways to look at it. I tend to look at it just fundamentally like if you're an NFC team, think about building your roster because that's how those two teams got there. When there's a void. And that's how the line for Western quarterbacks, you can win with a great team and a good quarterback. You don't need to have a Mahomes to get there. Then you get in the dance. It's anybody's game. So you just need the game manager. Executive would be nice.

And that's the thing is Justin Fields is not a manager. He's not, he's not an executive yet, but he's got some special traits. Still on the fries. They could differentiate. Still on the fries. Still on the fries. Okay. Facts, what's your viral moment?

Facts viral moment of the week is going to the Greek freak Giannis Antutakupo. The bucks are blowing out the Pelicans by 29 and they have. have a rule in their stadium if any opposing team misses two free throws, it's free rings, wings for everybody. And Giannis, while on the bench, takes a phone to scan the scan code, the QR code for free wings after the Pelicans missed two free throw. Oh, that's great. You know, they should probably do free Lazagna.

NBA looks fun. Why? You're saying the G's in everybody's name. GONIS. GONUS. I had to explain this the way the other day because he's really having a hard time with the Yonnas pronunciated. You know, I'm like, it's a silent G. I'm taking him through it.

I'm like, real G's moving silence like lasagna. He's like, oh, all right. That makes sense. Yeah. Thanks, little Wayne. Wayne. No, that's pretty fucking good. I love it.

Any team you played on, the free promotions if you actually. I think UVA is it's something with bacon, right? Yeah. It's usually the loudest the stadium gets, like a Sixers game. It's a free chicken. Free chicken. It's amazing. do the way people get behind them.

Funny story I heard about MJ while he was in Chicago. We may have told this story on the pod before, but he would get to the stadium so early. He would get the United, what is the United Center? United Center. So early. And he would see, they would do the Dunkin' Donuts races on the big screen.

And he would know who would win, like Cup. That's funny. And he would bet big bread with Scotty Pippin. Pippin never caught on. But hold on, here's the MJ part. He would let Scottie wins. A little. And he would just keep him in the game for the entire year.

And it was like six figures. That's child abuse. That's MJ. Like honestly, like that's the watch. MJ, yeah. MJ used to watch the Central Time, Jeopardy, which airs a couple hours earlier. And then watch the East Coast Jeopardy and Gamble on it. To impress people, that is, that is hilarious.

No, I mean, I believe it. King says he's kidding just for people at home. But, you know, he never did that. That's MJ. Yeah, that's MJ. Yeah, that's cool. That's my homes. That's my homes, yeah.

Same kind of guy. Same kind of guy. I think that's why we're so enamored with Patrick Mahomes. Kyle got to play with him. You know, Nate and I just played in the league. I got to practice with him. Got to practice with him. But the point is we are not immune to becoming fanboys for people.

Dude. Because this motherfucker's different. He's a killer. He's a killer. And that's why are you going to see him in Vegas next week? Oh, boy. Let's end with a question from the chat. A lot of people in the chat today.

We're at 97,000. Yeah, well, you ask three, three, four questions. We'll get out of here because we're early. The homie FN FM wanted us to comment on the video of likely being shoved away during the interception. I don't know if you saw but he got pushed behind the way.

So my question on that is I'm the guy screaming for past interference on Hail Marys. Are you that guy too? Because if you're not, you can't really claim this because this is a Hail Mary. He's throwing it into three people. What's the difference

between a Hail Mary in this play? Uh, there is none. There is none. Time on the... So I, you know, like, hey, listen, you could say, you could say PI here, they should be down at the one-yard line. I also could say, like, why are you... I think, look, it's physically impossible for likely... It's unlikely for Isaiah and turn around and catch that football, even if he's on a...

You can make an argument, though, if they get that play, maybe they lose 17-14. Or 17-something, I don't know. They still lose. They still lose. And so also from that game, we had the viral moment before... Justin Tucker, kick him, kicking. And Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes, not letting him do his warm. So this is a part of the field.

This is a part of the, so for NFL fans, there's stages to the deployment of athletes onto the field before the game. An hour before the game, they say kickers, quarterbacks, whatever, returners, they go out there and they do their skill guy thing. And, you know, the quarterbacks get their arms warmed up. But here you see, obviously, some territorial dispute. And people were bent out of shape about this thing. I don't know if they were just fucking around with Justin Tucker. That's a couple of goats right there. Yeah.

Even though we played, even though we played, I'm actually unsure, maybe you guys know, what are the rules and ramifications of like how much field you're allotted? I was getting to. Is this 50 yard? Is this 50 yard ours and that 50 are yours or how are we doing this? I think there's probably some sort of understanding and like, hey, you know, it's just etiquette. It's a little bit gray in. some areas. Now, I comb the mentions to see if former players were talking about it, and there

were some guys that were like, yeah, he's in a little bit of a funky spot there. They're trying to work out. Now, there's also, like, Lawrence Tynes from the Giants, who said, I've never seen anything like this in my life, which is total bullshit, because we've seen plenty of territorial fights in pre-game about where people are warming up. Like, this happens all the time. But I don't know in this situation who's right and who's wrong. I mean, I don't have a PhD in this. Yeah, I don't. Next. Chris, you'll like this one.

Shane wants to know, is it just me or is Stephen Jackson supremely underrated? Stephen Jackson's super underrated. He was, he walks so Derek Henry could run. And, you know, like you talking about, somebody looked up the basketball player. I like all the smoke. But Stephen Jackson is one of those players that you could argue that he shouldn't be in the conversation for the Hall of Fame based on. on the body of work, but he's just one of the countless players that the context around them affected how they thought of

in their career because he was running into loaded boxes, his whole damn career on bad teams, and he still managed to separate himself as one of the best of the generation. He's a great dude, I'm hoping to see him at the Super Bowl. He literally was like the Brahma bull out there, dude, like just breathe in fire. You just got out of the fucking way.

That was your offense. It was Stephen Jackson. Yeah. And the last one, a couple folks wanted to know, Lions made it to the NFC championship this year. Packers also made it to the playoffs. Give us a surprise team. Also, NFC North champion next year. Will it be one of the Packers or the Lions?

I don't want to, I can't say who's going to win that division yet because somebody's going to hold it to me. And I might pick something different in six months once you know who's up, who's up for being re-signed, the whole thing. Go, Pat. If you're looking at, if you're looking at who's a surprise. prize team in the NFC next year. Let's see. I mean, the problem is a lot of these teams were peaking late in the year. Like the Cardinals. The Packers could be one. The Cardinals could make a jump, right? I think, yeah, I'm not saying they're going to win the Super Bowl. I think Minnesota, I just, I just have a lot of trust in who they are. I think they could be pretty good

next year. Commanders are about to turn it around. Commanders if they hit. And I think in the AFC, I would, obviously the Texans, I thought the Texans could have made noise this year if they were a little healthier. And the Colts, look out for the Colts next year, man. Falcons. Look out for the Colts. Look out for the, look out for the Chargers. I know they have some cap things that they have to work out. They should be able to work those out, but like you take care of those things like and Harbaugh as your coach. Like look what he did in San Francisco with a team that had been underperforming 13 and 3 with Alex Smith his first year. So, you know, what could he do in L.A.? I'm not sure, but I would look out for the truck.

You realize that Patrick Mahomes had like 50 touchdowns, 50 plus touchdowns in his first year as a starter? Insane. I just think about what could happen in a place like Chicago if you go and get a prolific passer. Yeah, who's your Andy Reid? You know, I'm just saying. Yeah, but prolific. Again, prolific, there's a lot in between Mahomes and prolific. Prolific is here. Sam Howell, Sam Howell gets sacked at record rate. Yeah. But he also throws the ball pretty damn well and gives you an opportunity to have an

office moving down the field. He holds on the ball too long. But one thing we can say about him is for a great stretch there in the season, you could kind of set your clock to Sam Howell throwing the ball for 300 yards and getting sacked six times. If you get a guy who can put your offense in position to move down the field at a big clip, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, I just think you have a better chance to win. If you draft Sam Howell, they will run you out of that city. I'm not drafting Sam Howell.

I know, but that's the example. Well, I'm giving you the bottom tier. You were trying to go to the Mahomes thing, and I wasn't going to do that. Well, all I'm saying is... Because I think that's disrespectful. All I'm saying is the people keep saying, I'm fine if somebody wants to say draft the quarterback at that position. but if you lead with the argument you've got to go get at Mahomes I would say well then I'm going to fly home from work

I'm going to go outside I'm going to leave my keys here and I'm going to take off from the second story patio and just fly home what if the Vikings trade just to Jefferson? Finding a second Patrick Mahomes for Caleb Williams I know you like this Jefferson thing I think you sent Jefferson to the Bears

to go get Caleb Williams and then you got guys in that building who can make plays Hey listen if you go get a Patrick if you go get a really good quarterback you still might end of getting beat by Patrick Mahomes. That's the thing that sucks about playing in the NFL right now. It's an equation that's a multi-planar discussion. Where are you as a team?

How many assets can you accrue by opting out of the decision? How good can your team be? What conference are you in? You know what I'm saying? Well, we're saying who's going to win the NFC North? So I'm saying I think that with Jordan Love as the quarterback of the Green Bay Packers and that unit continuing to get more mature together

and on the same page, it's going to be hard to keep up with an offense like that, unless you can throw the damn football around the yard with a confidence that I just don't see. But they already beat the Lions with Justin Fields. I get that. I'm talking about the Packers. I mean, I think you can beat the Packers if you improve. Now, here's my, here's the counterpoint.

It's the Packers. It's the counterpoint. It's always the Packers. You're painting a Mahomes rookie year thing. Even if he's half of whom Mahomes is are three quarters, that's still pretty good, right? There's Mahomes first year starting, not rookie year. Where's your Andy Reed? You don't have the Andy Reed.

And guess who's going to start next year if they trade Justin Fields away? I have questions. I have questions about some of the moves. It's just a minefield, that's all I'm saying. The OC, the DC, we said it was a lateral move, right? That was, and I quote Matt, it was a lateral move for Waldron. No, I don't think it was a lateral move. I think the scheme can look on the surface like the scheme that they've been running,

but Waldron has had success with multiple quarterbacks. So I do think they put themselves in the right position, but, you know, the QB thing, we'll see. Hey, guys. We're really close to 10,000 or 100,000 subscribers, not 10,000. That was like, fucking a long time ago. 100K. All right.

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