Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Divisional Reactions! Bills Beat Ravens, Eagles & Saquon Roll & Chiefs = Inevitable!

Episode Date: January 20, 2025

Welcome to the Green Light LIVE NFL Divisional Round reaction show! Chris Long live reacts to the NFL Divisional Round matchups. All the games were competitive, with the Kansas City Chiefs kicking things off win a defeat of the Houston Texans on Saturday. Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce were their usual playoff selves and while it could be argued they received some help from the refs, they outplayed the Texans. The Washington Commanders beat the Lions at their own game on Saturday night to be the Cinderella of this NFL season. The Philadelphia Eagles beat the LA Rams in a snow storm to setup an NFC East rivalry in the Conference Championship. And the Buffalo Bills hold off the Baltimore Ravens in the late game on Sunday night. Chris, Beau Allen and Nate Collins rip through all of those games and NFL news from around the league. Enjoy the show! (00:00) - Intro: Beau's Weekend Traveling The Country (19:30) - Bills 27 Ravens 25 (56:13) - Ben Johnson to the Chicago Bears (1:01:50) - Eagles 28 Rams 22 (1:26:45) - Commanders 45 Lions 31 (1:49:50) - Chiefs 23 Texans 14 (2:15:15) - CFB Championship: Notre Dame vs Ohio State Want your Green Light Merch so you can look exactly like Chris and the fellas? Hit the website below and get kitted! https://stores.kotisdesign.com/yotehouse/products Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Send any Talent Search submissions to: [e-mail] Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgxWFAA-wuB7osdiAJyLOcw Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As a parting shot to Ravens fans, I fucking love that quarterback. And I think he is a model human being and a teammate and a leader. And, you know, like if I had like five guys that my kids could watch and emulate, not that they could emulate Lamar physically. But I would say emulate the guy. And that's the best compliment I can give a guy. Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. NFL divisional round reactions.

we've got Chris, Bo and Nate giving their recaps of the four divisional round games. The Eagles held off the Rams in a snowy one, one of the best weather games in recent history. Then we've got the Ravens and the Bills having one of the best games of the entire playoffs. Unfortunately, that game came down to some mistakes. We talked about that. Chris comes correct with some numbers to back up his claim that the Chiefs aren't getting as many calls as the fans think they are, that Chiefs Texans game did come down to a few calls. But you have to look at the full scope of the numbers. And then the commanders playing Cinderella.

Knocking off the one seat. They play the Eagles next week now with their win in Detroit on Saturday night. We go through all those games. We have a blast. A great show for you today. Enjoy it. And we'll be back midweek. See them.

Hey, boys. Yo. Yipa Chiay. Yipaiae. We were at the bar Saturday watching the game. And some woman walked up to me and was like, hey, I just saw Die Hard. and I was like I just I was like

it didn't I had a whole conversation with her about the diehard trilogy I was like well you should really see die hard three and you know I had this whole conversation where it didn't realize

I had the fucking hat on I was like what is she talking about oh I thought she thought your dad was Bruce Willis see right anyways what were the final

trade uh parts for that hat oh um well making was never going to wear it right so it ended up in my hand okay he did me a solid and was like i'm never going to wear the hat um how's everybody doing what's up what's going on chat i'm doing so good oh beau's doing good bell why don't you start the show by telling people where you can happy m lk day happy mlk day for sure but then that's going to remind me what else is going on today and i don't feel like alienating half of our fucking listenership apparently. That's smart. That's very smart. But it's still fucked that. Happy MLK Day Fax. That's a dope

Happy MLK day indeed. Appreciate it. Love MLK. What size is that? Let me try that thing out, man. I think you might have one. I don't know. Yeah. I think you, don't you have one in that closet there, yours, Bo? So we got a happy MLK day out now. Tell us where you've been, Bo. Well, Chris, I was all over this weekend. I'm doing a show with Kelsey up in Philly. So I was up in Philly on Friday for Kelsey's show, which is pure chaos. It's a lot of fun though. Yeah, you had your butt cheeks out like Mike Honcho. Dude, I actually had no idea Kelsey was going to put that on there.

And all of a sudden, I'm, I'm like up in this little balcony looking down. And Kelsey got my bare ass on the screen from like some joke meme I sent him like five years ago. Jesus, you really took that photo and weaponized it and just saved it for the perfect opportunity. All over ESPN. It's crazy. All over ESPN. Thankfully, it was at like 1 a.m. at night, so my mom wasn't watching. She was in bed. But I look, my, my ass looked pretty fat.

Oh, my God. I'll take it. That's all right. You don't think so? Go look that up on your own. You get really uneasy when people talk, you know, about like, you know, if nobody thinks you're into Bo's ass, you can just be like, ha-ha.

You know what I'm saying? You can laugh at that. But if I don't feel that way, why do I have to be like, ha-ha? Uh-huh. Uh-huh. But no, Bo's ass was out on the Kelsey show and everything. Yeah, it's cool.

Go check that out. Then woke up, flew to Kansas City where it was freezing cold, but got to hang out pretend I was part of the Monday night countdown crew with Kels, which was cool. And check out the divisional game with the Chiefs and the Texans as a fan. Uh, and that was a lot of fun. It was cold as hell in the sideline. I was shivering.

I did not pack well. All my warm coats are up in Minnesota. It was a good time. Then went up in the box with, you know, everyone at that game and felt really cool. Watch the Chiefs win. Travis had a nice catch. You know, pretty good game overall. That was fun.

Flew back to Philly that night. Checked out the birds in, in Philly. Did a little tailgate sesh with Aden and Ralph smoked. cigarette did some bench press reps you spat a sig too dude that was smooth dude i looked like pop-a lit that lit that dart up and was like benching at this awesome uh tailgate in the i think it was emlot and then i was like probably like 15 20 reps in it was so lightheaded i was like this was i've made a huge yeah breathing with the dick in your you know what i mean you know like you got a bite you got a bite you got to bite it that's a vet move someone lights a cigarette up

and they like smoke it all in one inhale. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like that's what I felt like. There's like, well, because if you're ever going to do anything, what with like a joint in your mouth or like a cigarette in your mouth,

you have to bite the cigarette so that you can open your mouth and breathe through your mouth. If you try to like put the join in your mouth and paddle down the river, as I might do something, you got to bite the stick. What Bo is saying, wet willies in Miami, there's like a homeless guy that like walks to get tips and he entertains people. and one of his tricks is like he literally

he hits a cigarette and smokes it in one bowl. That's what I felt like, dude. It's hard. How longs we're burning? I'm not built like that, man. You're evidently not built like that. You didn't set the record.

I was a little disappointed. Dude, my pecks are kind of sore today. So they get this whole tailgate for the people that are listening and maybe not knowing what he's talking about. They have like a literal bench and they've been keeping a tally of like who's got the record.

amount of reps of what 135 135 yeah and and obviously dudes are just slammed at that tailgate Sunday after Sunday and then they get former Eagles legend Bo Allen comes through with his big packs and they were handicapping you at probably like what 50 60 reps we end up with

in 40 60 60 I don't know 60? 60 I might have been 52 let's call it 52 LII that's a good number there's no way you don't know how many reps you got but we'll keep going. Dude, I was fucking in the spin zone, man. I had the dart. Like, I don't know. Yeah, you won just by doing it. I got up and I was like, where the fuck am I? It was like the

Mr. Crabs meme. You won just by doing it. He really won by just by being there. But can we back up? Because you tried to gloss over the whole other cool people in the box thing. You called me. Viewing experience of a football game of my life. Yeah, you called me and we're like, hey, I'm going to go to the Kansas City game. Kels wants me to go out there and, you know, I'll be sitting. I was like, wait a second so you're gonna be and he's like yep he goes kelsey already gave me a whole speech don't misbehave don't bother taylor swift don't fuck this up kelz called me up and the tone was like you know like it's like when your dad calls you when you get in trouble for something and he doesn't know how to get into it you know what i mean like kelz calls me up he's like so my dad always just

got into it he's like you're coming to this this game like don't make me regret this yes sir the poll is can I beat the the rep record of the tailgate no chance benching ain't my thing

52% of the people think you can I know 52% of the people are wrong about a lot of things if you haven't noticed in this fucking chat so case in point but Bo did you meet

Taylor Swift I did were the impression She's cool, man. She's she led with a compliment. No. And I was like your hair, your hair, your hair. Wrong, wrong.

She liked your jacket. She said that I saw your fat ass on Kelsey's show. It was awesome. No, she said I was funny in that she, um, respected my commitment to like making a joke or getting a laugh or something like that. Damn, you got where, where, what joke did you lead with? That he was, he was, he was, he was dolled up like a drag. queen the first show i think that's what she was referring to okay got it got it i was just like

oh wow i really wasn't expecting a compliment out of you like thank you that's incredible that puts all my compliments a happy man right now yeah that's great exactly but katelyn clark was in the suite which is the whole thing and like did you do any legwork to get her on green light because i said i said don't worry about taylor swift kelsey didn't say don't embarrass me around katelyn clark he said don't embarrass me around Taylor Swift. So did you talk to Caitlin and did you ask her if she can come on the show? I talked to her. She, you know, she's a little busy to come on the show.

I'm still working on that. But after Karloftus's third sack, I made a joke to her. I was like, it might be the best Big Ten athlete in this building right now. It was funny. She didn't think was funny? I don't know if she got it. Or like, she just, there's a lot going on in there, man. Like someone had a speaker who was playing.

music like I don't know there is it was a really unique feeling experience but then her boyfriend laughed really hard so that's good maybe he manages the bookings maybe I'll talk to him I was chopping up with him for a while he's a good dude I think he coached the basketball at Iowa or something okay he played yeah had a good time man well that's awesome it feels like they just put you in a metal tube and and took you around the country well and in in beau what you came out of that game with a new piece of clothing, right? Yes, I got a, I got a sick piece of swag. I'm going to, I'm going to save that and debut it for the show on Friday with Kels.

But I complimented Travis on his jacket. He just fucking gave it to me. So it's pretty slick. Oh, you got, you got Travis's jacket. Yeah. And honestly, I was like, I was like, I don't think it's going to fit me. And Taylor was like, yeah, it'll definitely fit. Put it on.

And he's like, if it fits you, you can have it. I'm never going to wear it again. And I was like, all right. And I put it on and it fit. And I was kind of disappointed because I was like, I used to be a big fucking boy. And now I'm wearing the same clothes as him. Well, he's a little taller.

Now, now, so he rolled up to the stadium and that. He's a fucking meathead. He rolled up to the stadium in his like best fit. And then you take the best fit home. That's what happened. Bro,

someone's got to keep me looking fresh. So Kelsey wears clothes to the stadium. That's how these guys do. When they look cool, they wear clothes. the stadium they never wear them again not mac hollins because i'll tell you what i was wearing normal shit hey when you when you leave you like post game showers do you wear the same stuff that you're into the game usually unless it's uncomfortable or if you're on the road and sometimes on the way back

i'll let you wear like um or a way zip up yeah there's got to be everybody's got to be in the same zip up because we're all adults if you lose if you lose put that damn suit on and shut up and get on the We're going to check your room at 11 o'clock, even though you have the biggest game of your life tomorrow. I'm going to bang on your door just to make sure you're in your room like you're a fucking kid. And then you're going to have to wear like the same thing as everybody else on the plane. I don't care how uncomfortable it is. We got a dress coat on the plane. It really is stupid.

Have you ever got like, have you ever missed like room check or anything like that throughout your career? I don't think so. I was always in my room. I was always an early to bed guy. to the point where I was pissed that when they're not going to get up. Yeah, because I'm asleep. Yeah. You know what I mean? I feel you. Um, anyways, Bo, what a weekend, dude. I really enjoyed the.

I'm a little, I'm a little sleepy. And also, Chris, I was laughing because I stayed last night at an early flight this morning back to Tampa and I stayed at the Hilton Marriott at the hotel in Philly where we used to stay at. Back where we used to stay. Yeah. So I was just like walking through those halls, like walking out memory lane. It's not as cool without your teammates in there, huh? It's not as cool. And it's, just straight up not a good it's not a very nice hotel the hotel inside of an airport yeah yeah but it was fun because i had the bills ravens game on and we used to watch college football

on saturday night when we're in the ballroom so i was like yeah a little nostalgia factor we used to eat that ice cream with dougie p yeah hang out with the boys i remember i was like you should you should have took some airborne before you're you're traveling man dude i am absolutely fucking like i've sneezed Yes, it does. Do you think it does? I, I, I, I, I, I, emergency, dude, those emergency packages. Or you know how we do the fuck counter? For real.

Things that work better. Yeah. You need to do a sneeze counter because I've sneezed literally 300 times today. Okay. So bad. When I called you earlier, I said, hey, Bo, and then you just goes, Oh ha! Yeah.

I'm like a, I'm a dramatic sneezer too. It was. It wants everybody to say bless you. Yeah. Oh. You're for the attention, you know. Well, congratulations. on your big weekend.

I just want to say for everyone in the chat and everyone out there, like Chris was invited to the Eagles game and it was an absolute cinematic experience against, and it was the Eagles against the Rams in Philly snow game. And Chris didn't go. So that's actually my worst seat is Chris watching that game. Oh, best seat, bro. Best seat.

From the house. You could have been chilling with your boy. Well, then maybe you shouldn't have made me go to the game last week. You know, I just don't do multiple in a row. I need buy weeks. I have three kids.

I'm tired. I spent half the week on the on the Amtrak going to and from Philly. Remember we landed back from Philly on Monday morning, feeling all shitty, had to do the show, then did a live show Monday night, and then Tuesday morning I had to wake up. I was scrambling to get to the train and didn't get home until Thursday, basically. Yeah, the young man's game, Chris. Yeah. You got to rest up for the Super Bowl.

I'm like Kelsey without the big paychecks. I'm everywhere, but you just don't see me. I'm like Kelsey without any paychecks. I just get paid in jackets. Yeah. I'll take it though. You could probably eBay that off for pretty good money, honestly. Dude, my sister, I said to her a photo, the one that you guys put up earlier.

And she's like, that's now a family heirloom. We'll pass that down amongst generation. I'm like fucking chill, all right? Well, maybe we go to the NFC championship. We'll see. I got every, all of my Washington friends who, like, feels like all my friends being from where I'm from and going to school. I went to school like they're all commanders fans in fact there were like four of them uh shout to keith and burney who were in um in detroit at that game it was very brave to go to a game like

that in commanders gear um and and those guys are already talking cash shit about sunday so why don't we just get into the games shall we and and you know it was it was suggested that we work backwards and and i think of all the moments this weekend that you felt something like obviously if you're an eagles fan you felt my bevel conway is saquan barkley that shot i i quote tweeted it last night late it reminded me of bryce harper uh the shot of brys harper hitting that home run oh yeah in in the postseason and the way it was raining out and it was like the elements it was so It was just very Philly. And I love it when they take the broadcast out

and they go with like a field level view and you just hear the crowd. I got chills watching that Bryce Harper thing and I don't even like baseball like that. Watching Sequin take off. And everybody knows it was like as soon as he gets a full head of steam against his Rams team,

it's 60 yards. The field level view of it and hearing the crowd to me, I got chills. I mean, I got chills. And listen, I love the Eagles. I love watching the Eagles and everything, but I'm not like some fanatic. Like a lot of people listening.

Like, don't make that mistake. I still do this job. And I got to analyze every team in the NFL. But that made me feel like a fan, dude. It was crazy watching that video. With the snow, the whole thing. That's what NFL football feels like at field level. If you can get a chance, go to my Twitter,

look at the tweet that I, I quote tweeted and watch Seque Juan Barkley. Unless you're a Rams fan, watch Sequan Berkeley take off down the alley and listen. It reminded me. No, the one in the snow late in the game. Oh, okay. It reminded me the NFC championship game that we played in against Minnesota.

I'm not in every, you know, they say that's the loudest they heard the stadium was our NFC championship game. It had to be close for that Sequeen run. I got chills just thinking about it. And since it's not NFL footage, can we show it here? Let's throw it up. Throw it up? Really?

Okay, throw it up. Let me get my trophies out of the shot, though. I don't want to get like a, I don't want to get a stern talking to by the head of NFL rule following. Can we throw this up? Here we go. With sound? It's fucking pretty, man. They're the chills again.

I love how he's hitting himself too. There go the chills again. I love that celebration too. Bro, just run it again. Finishing a race. And I know, I know there's a lot of Eagles fans watching this podcast, but if you're an NFL fan, this is a thing of fucking beauty. This guy, as he's running down the field, I don't know if it's running through his head,

but everything he's been through in his career, the excellence has been just sitting on the shelf. Right. There's no chance they win that game without him. There's no chance. There's a chance they don't win the game last week without him. Yeah. His value is incredible.

And the home run threat that he provides changes the game for the Eagles. That made me feel something. That made me feel a totally different kind of thing. You do that, Chris. You need to feel something, man. I know I do. The way the Ravens game ended, you act like I'm some nihilist. I just have dopamine issues.

There's too much Zen. Yeah. You believe in nothing. Too much, too many dog walkers. But the fucking, the way that the Baltimore game ended. And I was on the bills and, hey, listen, as an analyst, I felt good about the outcome of the game last night because it echoed a lot of things we talked about this year with that team

and with the quarterback that won. But the way that game ended was heartbreaking. I've never felt so empty watching money going. into my account. Honestly, I mean, I'm not even being funny or talking about gambling. I'm just telling you, like, I was sitting there and I couldn't even celebrate the way the game ended. Bless you, Bo. Watching Mark Andrews, I mean, the shot of him on the sideline as Buffalo went on that five-minute drive to make it an eight-point game and kick, which was the right call. Mark Andrews on the sideline, it was excruciating after that fumbled knowing that like, hey, am I going to get another shot at this

thing and to know that he got his shot in the corner of the end zone by the pylon and they go to him they go right back to him and he drops the ball i just i cannot understate when you watch professional athletes a lot of people say i would trade my situation for mark andrews situation and i and i would have said that i would have said waking up yesterday i would have traded my career for Mark Andrew's career. Not anymore. And I'm not trying to be a dickhead. What I'm saying is this is the harsh reality of putting your life's work on display in front of millions of people every time you take the field. Your dream can turn into a nightmare in an instance. And you wish you were never there at all. And I'm not trying to overstate the mental toll of being a professional athlete. The reality is,

he will, there will not be a day. There will be very few days the rest of his life that he won't think about this play. Unless he's wired totally differently. I relive mistakes that I made in my career that were nowhere near as consequential. Opportunity cost type things. Just like, man, if that had happened, if that had happened,

I beat myself up over my career. Now, he's had an amazing career. And maybe they get back there. I think they do. I think they'll be right back there next year because we'll talk about the quarterback in a second. I think he's fantastic. But that is going to torment him for the rest of his life. And that is the cost of being, that's the flip side of the coin.

And there's nothing that can undo that. No amount of money, no amount of pro bowls, no amount of that guy's life changed last night in an instant. I'm not trying to be over dramatic about it. And as a player sitting on the couch, I was fucking gutted for the guy. I was gutted for the guy. And I was gutted for Lamar. who quite honestly showed as much class and accountability after a loss as I've seen any quarterback show after a playoff game.

The stakes of that loss. Last year when Patrick Mahomes ran up to Josh Allen, or during the regular season, and was pissed about the call and was incensed because of his competitive fire, people were like, I don't like the way he's acting. Now, listen, we got a group chat. I'm not going to name who it was. He's a guy I love.

He's not in this room. But last night after the game, he's like, I don't know if Lamar is smiling after the game is a great look. I felt the complete opposite about that. When Lamar ran out to shake Josh's hands, shake his hand, I was blown away by his grace and his humility and his ability in his worst moment to smile. And I know that was intentional by him. and it showed Josh a lot of respect. I think it also spoke to the respect that both of them have.

When you heard Lamar's comments leading up to the game, this was life or death for him, as close as it could be to the NFL, metaphorically speaking. And it ends on a drop, and he has multiple mistakes in the first half. And he played fantastic in the second half, but that loss fucking hurt. And for him to go out there to midfield and smile on his face, greet Josh, show humility.

I don't want to hear a bad thing about Lamar, the person, or the teammate, or the leader. or the human being, he's, he's as accountable and fucking stand up as anybody in the league. And he's damn close to one of the best players on the planet. For different stretches, he looks like it. It hasn't been the case in the postseason. Now, he played really well in the second half. But, you know, I listened to Get Up this morning.

I'm sorry, I'm ranting, Bo. But this morning I turned on Get Up and I'm watching the panel do this thing where, is it Lamar's fault? Well, no, it's not Lamar's fault, but he certainly shares in the blame. And, you know, when 10 points off turnovers affect the game the way it affected the script of that game, it definitely factors in. Everybody's going to remember the Mark Andrews issue at the pylon. But I think we can certainly walk out of this game just on a macro level and say, those are

two amazing quarterbacks, two of the best players on the planet. And guess what? There's a lot of the greatest quarterbacks that ever played that don't have a fucking ring. And I'm not saying that's Lamar's fate. But I don't watch Lamar and say the moment's too big for him. The moment was not too big for him at the end of the game. It's not that kind of thing.

With the Ravens, all the mundane moments are too big for them. And that's been the story with them. You talk about playing the AFC and how hard it is, the murderers' row of quarterbacks. And this isn't a hit job on the Ravens. This is just to illustrate that it's really not about beating the quarterbacks, it's about them beating themselves. These are the passing totals in the games that they've lost in the playoffs. 2019 divisional round. Ryan Tanhill, 88 yards.

204 divisional round. Josh Allen, 127 yards. 22 wildcard, Burrow, 209 yards. 2018 wildcard, Rivers, 160 yards. 2020 divisional, Allen, 206 yards. 2023 Mahomes last year in the championship, 240 yards. These aren't shootouts that he's losing to quarterbacks. These are games that the Ravens are losing to themselves and the other team at times. But same story this year. Turnovers and not

being able to consistently run the ball game. And so we can boil it down to the quarterbacks. Everybody shares in some blame in this game. But ultimately, you can't absolve Lamar for his part as bad as we want him to be the guy. I think he's the guy. I think he's going to have another chance. I think he'll be back there. I love Lamar. But he didn't get it done on the big stage.

And this team, more than anything, has failed to get it done. And so, you know, excuse me for ranting, but it's just like the narratives left and right this morning already. And it's like everybody's got their confirmation bias. Let's just keep it a buck and say these two guys are fucking incredible. But Josh has been on another level in the postseason. And yesterday, he didn't have to be. And that's been the case with a lot of these losses for the Ravens. Well, and it speaks, you know, their embrace after the game speaks to the brotherhood

in the NFL that you guys have. Like, if I can't make it, this guy's going to make it. It's going to be awesome for the league. Like, I'm glad that I was beaten by a guy of his caliber kind of thing, and he can be happy for him. It's cool to see. It was a good competitive game and, like, more like smiling. It's one of those things where it's just like, even as a competitor, like, you know,

you're going to lose sometime and it's just like ah like we almost had it like this was a good game i know that last pass if you'd have caught it it would have been a different scenario to the ending of the game whether they were to won or lost so i just feel like guys like when you play games and some people always say they rather get blown out than lose a close game and that might be true but at the same time like you want to play close intense games like that and and be able to win but like if you do lose was like, I feel like if you feel like you left it all out there as a competitor, you feel good. No question. They left it out there. I mean, they competed. The bills competed their asses off. You talk about like, we should be talking about the bills and their ability. You look at this

defense. You're like, eh, like they've got some good players, but they play big in big games. Sean has something in these big games. And I think today it was just like, hey, I don't know if the Ravens were ready for the attacking style of the bills in the elements, down Zay Flats, knowing, hey, like, we're going to take a little from this bucket where we're, we're, we're, we're not going to worry as much, even though safety play is bad and, you know, inconsistent, we're not going to worry about him beating us this way as much. We're going to be downhill and we're going to make it hell for Derek Henry. It's going to be a bunch of fucking bodies in there.

It's going to be like a car accident. I mean, it's just going to be people rolling around and shit. And, and I thought in the first matchup, you didn't have that push because once the 87-yarder hit at the beginning of the game, the trap, it was. like let's play this game outside the numbers and pepper you with derrick henry this game it was like we all know what this game's going to come down to and the backers who did not play in that first game played downhill the tackles played really well epinessa set an edge and it felt like everything they were doing was like we're going to set heavy edges we're not going to set these wide edges

that create lanes where it's like okay i did my job you know now the backers got to fill it was like let's set this edge as tight to line of scrimmage as possible make them bounce things and see if they can just commit to the run game for 85 yards. And I want to give my game ball. And I want to say first that I was maybe one of the guys that was feeding into, hey, when DeMar Hamlin that whole situation, when he came back, everyone was kind of like, oh, is he good enough? They're just keeping him on the team because of what happened with him and it's PR stuff.

And here we go. He leads the team with eight tackles, two TFLs, the sack that he ended up with a sack. and the sack that he had. It's a huge play. Huge play causes a fumble. Causes a fumble. Yeah. And he leaves his team with the tackles for the game.

And like you said, like all the tackles weren't pretty. Like no one tackles Derek Henry pretty. And like he was running downhill. Yeah. He got ran over a few times. Yeah. But you're like, he's small. Like, and you have to put your body in there.

And like you just said, all the guys on defense, they were doing that. and a conscious effort just as a whole of going at the ball and trying to punch the ball. To be where he's been, and I'm talking about unconscious for a night, like they had to put him on ice. Yes. Like it was life and death. Yes. He's putting his head on Derek Henry's thighboard in a playoff game. Unreal.

You know, like, shout out to the guardian cap. Everyone, it's funny looking, but for guys who have had head injuries and you know that, realistically, your career after one major head injury, you're one more away from maybe never playing again. Yeah. The fact that we have something now that can maybe help that situation out, like, yeah, we made fun of it, but I'm all for it. No, yeah, if you want to wear it, wear it.

And listen, Hamlin had some bad plays, you know, but, and nobody expects him to be a world beter. Like we talk about the safety position for them being a bit of a problem, including rap, who at times is not a world beater. but let's go back to the turnovers from Lamar just because it helps tell the story of the game I thought

the biggest just in the first half because the first half decided the game you clawed your way out of a hole that to be honest you shouldn't have to and that's what the game came down to you can say hey the moment wasn't too big for Lamar at the end and I agree it went 90 yards in three minutes

or whatever it was to basically tie the game now Bill's fans will tell you a minute and a half left for Josh Allen. Oh yeah, yeah. I feel pretty good about them having an opportunity to win that game. Absolutely. But I'll say this. The biggest moment in the game for Josh, who didn't have to do a ton, right? They scored 27 points with one explosive pass. So that tells you a lot. Like that tells you that like, and we should be crediting Josh for this because in the past we said, Josh did not know where he was in the game. That's what we used to say. I just wish he had like a little fucking a voice in his ear that would tell him, hey, Josh, you got the lead or Josh, we're just going to run the ball in these guys. you don't need to take that chance. That voice spoke to him when he almost pitched it. When he almost pitched it.

Bullshit. There was that inner voice. You wanted to pitch it. His arms were pinned against the body. He would have pitched that ball. And it would have been a touchdown. But in general, what we're talking about is like watching the Denver game where there's a shot to be had and maybe it's 70, it's 50, 50.

And he thinks in his head at 70, 30 and it's not, well, he's going to take the checkdown. And in a game like this, like let's not turn the ball over. And that was one of those instances where, you know, might have been fortunate. The biggest instance in this game for me where he actually had to make a play was third and long, first possession, Ravens walked the ball down the field for seven. You punt the ball to the Ravens. There's a chance they go on a drive and go out 14-0. He hits Shakir right over Stevens head. That's a brilliant play.

Fourth and two, they run quarterback power behind Dawkins, right? And then we go. And we tie the football game and we're in phase again. And I also think as much as people want to make a big deal about Lamar's turnovers, and they weren't great. Now, he did. He was very accountable on this thing. The fumble is an RPO, and I think a lot of people watching at the time don't realize

that he can't throw the ball in his head because he's got a lineman downfield. So tuck it. Just tuck it, take the sack, live the fight another day. You might be able to get points. Okay, that's one. You know what preceded? That was an Andrew's drop. How ominous is that?

Okay. Now, the interception, which he took full accountability for, he's trying to look off the safety depending on how he throws that ball it's a successful look off they're in single high at that point Rasul Douglas is inside leverage on Bateman

who's running a flag he should be running a flag towards the sideline and that's where Lamar can put the ball away from the safety on the sideline but he didn't it was like he thought he was going to break vertical but that's not the right read okay so either way the turnover suck but I'll say this

where the game really came down to something that people didn't realize with the end of the first half. Okay? The Ravens had an opportunity after the Bateman play where Hamlin didn't get enough depth and now he's on the goal line

and they're at the two-yard line. You end up, I think, with a TFL, then you end up taking a sack and I'm not going to put that all on Lamar. I'm going to put it on Top Monkin too because nobody's open. Okay, maybe he had, and then third down the same thing.

It's just nobody's open and he has to dump it to Henry. So at the end of the half and we always talk about middle eight in a game where they could tie it at 14. Instead, they kicked the football, and make it 10, the bills then drive down the field and they finish with Josh, you know,

on third and two into the end zone. So you talk about the turnovers, but you also talk about the end of the game. If we're going to be criticizing the Ravens and key moments, you also have to look at their red zone trip at the end of the first half. And so that writes the script for the entire second half. Another moment in there is, I don't know if it was,

yeah, I think it's early in the first. Lamar puts a pass on Derek Henry that he drops on the sideline that realistically potentially... Did he put it on? on him. Well, he didn't put it on it, but... They scored on that drive. They scored on that drive. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Because I went back, it's spinning around in my head, too. Yeah. But even if you were to say, hey, you know, that could be six, and it was a tough throw. But if it's out in front of it, it might be, it's behind them. They probably knock him down

at the 25 or the 30. There were guys running full speed. He has to slow down to catch up. I get it. But I just want to say, they did score on that drive. Okay. Well, then... Well, then... I'll give you some grace because I was going to say, Derek, he dropped two passes yesterday. He doesn't get past the ball a lot. It's just like, catch the rock. Catch the rock. Because the other pass that they dropped,

I don't know if they end up kicking a field goal. Or maybe they scored on that too. Which one? They were in the red zone. Well, you know, and who knows. If we want to be nitpicky, hey, Josh missed the go ball to Mack Hollins, the first play of the game.

You know, Lamar missed a ball to likely in that two-minute trip that might have had more time in the clock, so maybe they play defense. But the bottom line is, Lamar in the second half played good enough to win. You know, the drops killed him, the fumble killed him. And the Andrews fumble, like, to me, that's a situation. The shame of it is, like, that's two games now that they lost

because the turnover's ended a two-point play. Pittsburgh, okay, down there, they weren't ready. They had a fucked up thing where Aguilar and likely are fighting over who's the point guy and they can't get in the end zone on a two-point conversion. They got Derek Henry and Lamar Jackson, and you suck in the low red and on two-point conversions, like that's that's sacrilege. So for me, it's those plays.

And I think on top of it, Justice Hill probably could have got, this might have been a game where Justice Hill could have got more burn. He was balling out. And man, I respect the hustle and just the wherewithal, like of him trying to rip that ball back from Von. And like, honestly, I thought he was going to maybe get it or at least. That was crazy. I was like, put it away. Yeah, at least jar it loose, but the speed when just the difference of like how Von Miller

was running and he looked like he had like a good enough head start that it would be a touchdown. But Justice Hill, like the speed that in the angle that he took to make that tackle was absolutely incredible. He probably could have gotten a little bit more work. It felt like a game where they were very ready for Henry. And like, I don't know if this was a product of the way that the bills were playing it, but we didn't see quarterback run. Yep.

And, you know, for me, I would have rather have seen Lamar running with the football than Derek Henry. I just like, I had a picture in my head of that first game and that long run to start the game off. Like, that's what you couldn't see. So I think, you know, Sean McDermott did a great job. I think the bills took the ball away, but the Ravens also gave them the ball. Yeah. And so, like, have you to come out of this game like that first Pittsburgh game? You said, oh, you got a her big punch out.

You had the play of the year, the Peyton Turner, what's his name, I can't get his fucking Wilson. Peyton Wilson, arm bars, the interception, like, these are takeaways. The force fumble on, uh, on fucking, uh, Andrews was like, it was an incredible defensive play. Yeah. Unreal. Unreal. But, but it affected the play later in the game. I guarantee it. No, it absolutely did. But it's one of those things that I just feel like they're decorinator, their defense.

and their coach is just an emphasis. You can see almost every single play when they're making tackles in that game that they were trying to get at the ball. When Milano had that big play coming back where he like tattoos someone into the ground on a third down, you see everyone celebrating and the coach, the first thing he goes to him,

the coach looks like he's mad. He's like, because he's like, get the ball. He's like, no, you could have punched it out. Like you were coming, he didn't see you about to make that tackle. So just knowing. that, like knowing that they have that emphasis and like how important it is to try to force

turnovers in the playoffs and get your offense some extra possessions, it was their defense, the small defense, they were out there hitting and doing what they need to do, making up for lack of size if people think that's a big deal. Listen, just to close this thing out on this game, Lamar did everything he could have in the second half to get him back. And quite honestly, he was robbed of an opera we were robbed of another minute and a half of great football but it ain't like last year where after the chiefs beat the bills you could blame it all on the kicker yeah you know after the chiefs beat the bills and i defended josh allen i just want to see if the ven diagram has crossover on the people that criticized josh allen last year and we're trying to absolve lamar who i

love i and here are the people that i dislike the people that say lamar is never going to be back that he's trash that he's a choke artist that he's he's not elite you're all crazy okay the people that say he doesn't bear any responsibility for this loss you're being apologists because you're you're married to a take he's going to win the MVP I'm almost I can almost guarantee you that yeah but but to me the reason I when I said Josh Allen was the MVP this year and eventually you just you just Hey, you got it. If you went, the postseason matters to me. And until you prove otherwise, Josh Allen has been one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL in the postseason.

And so value for a regular season award probably shouldn't, it shouldn't creep into the postseason conversation, but it's impossible for me. And Josh didn't have to be postseason Josh yesterday, which is the most impressive thing in the world for me. Yeah. Because we know he can do it, but he took what they gave him. and he didn't turn the ball over. And to me, that's why he's the most valuable player this year. Now, Lamar's going to win it, and I'm not going to make us think about it. Because I think they're both fantastic.

Both fantastic. Lamar deserves it, man. Regular season award. Yeah, exactly. It was voted on two weeks ago. But the thing about the bills in the postseason is like, dude, they are so balanced. And that's kind of what, that's what I saw the most out of this game, right? Like how good they are just offensively, they have, it's like, they don't have, like,

they don't have like a stud wide receiver okay they don't have a stud running back they don't have derrick henry but they like joe brady does such a good job of just understanding what they have offensively using it and playing like just such a balanced form of offense and it works really well at their defense which is also balanced they're just a solid really good team let's not forget dude buffalo is a really tough place to play especially like in those elements with bills mafia and shit like that like to me this is like quintessential playoff football comes out to one play you know How many times you see that during the regular season? I feel like we always see these stats where it's like, you know, so many games were decided by one score.

And that's heightened in the playoffs. And that's exactly what we got here. It's fucking awesome. Like, you got to love it. Got to love it. I just hate the fact that it was ended. Somebody has to, somebody's life has to change in a bad way because of this. You know, like.

And you said it earlier, though, Chris, like, to me, like when I watch tape now of myself, I'm like, oh, shit. I was actually like, I had some good reps because the only ones that stick out are the time. you get fucking rolled off the ball, you miss a sack or... Miss an opportunity. Jump off sides or, yeah, exactly. You miss getting a sack and it turns into a big player for the other team. That's the shit that sticks out in your career.

And you know, I mean, I feel for Mark Andrews, man, because, like, he actually had a great game. He had, what did he have, like, 60 or 70 yards receiving? Like, he played really well. And, you know, obviously, he had a couple of critical errors, but, like, less than... He's wide open on a lot of those balls, though. Five catches, seven targets, 61 yards.

I mean, like, as the down went on, and that's the thing, like McDermott blitzed, a good bit. Like, as the down went on, sometimes if you couldn't get to Lamar, there were just voids. And so, like, yeah, like, the passing game was good. But again, there were a handful of plays that I thought Lamar was electric. He just didn't make enough of them, you know, and that's the reality. It's the reality. Mark Andrews doesn't get to escape reality. The reality of this game is the quarterback bears some of the blame, too.

And there's going to be a narrative. And although I disagree with it that he's like some choke artist, He, you know, he's not actually a great player. He hasn't taken that next step. You know, he's won a couple of playoff games. I can remember when we were like, that guy's never won a playoff game. We're talking about not other guys, but I'm talking about other guys in the NFL, like QBs. You know, the whole thing for a lot of guys is he's never won a playoff game.

This guy's won playoff games, won a couple now. But you got to win the big ones now. And he's still young enough that I think he's got a lot of runway left to do it. but it was disappointing. He doesn't deserve. Lamar Jackson does not deserve that narrative, though, because he was a, he's the best player on the field in that game.

You said, you're saying that. For his team. Yeah, for, I mean, but this is what it turns into, like,

if I rebut a hyperbolic statement, then I'm like a hater. I'm not. All I'm trying to say is that you can't say that, like, you know, he can't win in key games. I agree with you.

I agree with you, but he hasn't. yes and and so like there doesn't need to be any sensationalism about the problem i have is we turn on tv and somebody screaming about him being a choke artist or he's not a good player he's not elite he's all those things except for choke artists um and i also don't like the people doing mental gymnastics to not treat him the way you would treat any other quarterback because man i've seen some people in the media just murder josh in the past and you know like yeah And he's been playing really well in the playoffs all the while.

His only crime was losing a 60 to 60 fucking ball game. I was there on edibles watching at Arrowhead. It was the greatest game of all time. Yeah. Like, there's no shame in losing that game. The reason why I was upset was I want to see the new overtime rule and us potentially getting a freaking 100 to 100 game because it goes back and forth. Yeah.

Like you want to see all the anytime touchdown bets hit. You made a good point. Yeah. Yeah, like, because they have the new rules where you get a chance. So, like, if teams just keep going back and forth and scoring, I just feel like it would be nice to make Vegas sweat and have half the country hit their parlayes because of the new overtime rules. It would be hilarious.

No, I didn't think about that. Vegas does not like overtime. No, no way. It's not like overtime. Overtime is the best thing that can happen to you when you have a basketball parlay. Yeah. best thing ever the worst thing when you get the under

yeah yeah that that's not well the worst is when you bet a team in the second half and they come back but they but they don't win the second half because of overtime you know and then so you bet in the second half not the end of the game yeah so all right real real fast for the ravens fans in the chat if you want a little if you want to feel good about next season the 2018 to 24 ravens joined the 1999 to 2005 colts is the only other team in the NFL fell with 80 plus wins over a seven season span without reaching the Super Bowl. I don't think it's...

Hold on. Without reaching the Super Bowl. Those teams. The Colts won the Super Bowl in their eighth year. So the Ravens next year, if you want to join that... Listen, this fucking thing ain't easy. There's one team that gets to go home every year with this thing. It's the most competitive league in American sports.

You never know what can... happen as evidence by Saturday night as evidence by so many of these games there's no cakewalk through the playoffs and just for having been drafted by the Baltimore ravens you know and yeah the stats I read earlier don't exactly support this point but you have to beat those quarterbacks and as you can see it's not just about gaudy numbers it's about winning games it's about it's about making the plays when they count and not making the plays that kill you and the ravens have not done a good job of that man I don't know if it's coaching I don't know if it's something. something in the building.

I don't know what, but I'll tell you, I'll tell you this, as a parting shot to Ravens fans, I know I give you a lot of shit for, you know, sometimes not knowing when to just be like, okay, Chris, maybe that's a good point, we'll see this weekend, instead of just writing me off as a hater, I fucking love that quarterback. And I think he is a model human being

and a teammate and a leader. And, you know, like if I had like five guys that my kids could watch and emulate, Not that they could emulate Lamar physically, but I would say emulate the guy. Yeah. And that's the best compliment I can give a guy, okay? What happens on the field, it's a really hard game. You're not going to win every year.

You're not going to be that team every year, bro. Whaling, well, and whaling comes out on a football game with a shiasty and a grill man and be like that. Hey. You said emulate. Hey, if you work as hard as Lamar, and you stand up for your teammates. If you want to have a shy state of grill, that's fine.

But my point is Lamar, Lamar is a football player, man. He is. The way he talked at the podium after the game, to me, would make me want to come back and play harder. Yeah. You know, and I feel for Mark Andrews and I feel for Lamar, who's had to be, he's had to be through a lot, man. That's what I was saying.

You talk about the narratives, bro. Like, oh, he's no good. He's not really a quarterback. He wins MVP maybe three times now. Yeah. Now it's going to be, you know, he didn't run enough last year. He ran too much before that. Then this year it's, you know, it's going to be he can't win the big one.

And so, you know, until a tough shit, until you do, that's going to be you can't control people talking. Yeah. Including us. Right. But I'd love to see him do it at some point. And so for Ravens fans, you got a very valuable, you have a very valuable, what's the word, asset. The most valuable asset. According to the people that vote on the award probably.

Got to take a step back, take a few deep breaths. It's going to hurt. It's going to hurt for the next few months. But you guys will be back. You guys will be back to the playoffs. And we'll have this argument again very soon. But it's definitely going to hurt for Raven fans. I just know it.

I just know that. It's already hurting for Ravens fans. Yeah. Because they talk so much shit. But also, too, like you said, just the what-ifs. That was a moron last year when I fucking picked against him

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Okay. Yeah, Matt got drunk and I found out that Tanner is colorblind. Yeah. Red green colorblind. Yeah. Yo, he said, I can't believe it.

Yo, here's what he said. he said they have these glasses he's never seen purple yeah he's never seen purple which is funny because he went to a school with purple is the main color so you might as you think your school's blue and yellow yeah basically yeah but it's yeah it's not colors yeah i like it dog there's supposed of some glasses you can get to like you know grow him the colors for the first time i just seen a viral videos we're gonna do it here some black dudes are on the porch and he hands he hands them the the the glasses and he's like he's never seen red. Yeah.

And he's just like is bugging out looking at a car. He's just like, bro, would you take boomers and then put the glass? I don't know. I don't know. That might be too much. Yeah, might be tasting. Bro, that's like jumping from the side of the pool

to the Olympic high dive. When he eats a strawberry, he thinks it's electric brown. What does Skittles look like to you? just Eminems? Just no color? No, no, I can see color. I can see color. I explain this to Chris, though,

but like what I've found out this year, the best way to describe the way red looks to me is neon brown. It's like extremely dull. Purple looks exactly like blue. There's almost no difference. So roses look like they're dying flowers? I guess.

I mean, yeah. I guess if you guys saw what I saw, Yeah. So if you have blood in your stool, you're just like, ah. Dude, this is a real problem I've had to like think about because like, how is that the first thing thing that your mind goes to, Chris? I don't know. It's red and brown.

It's a medical emergency. I'm like, he's never seen the color of flowers. Wait, way. And you're like, he's never seen blood in his shit. Honestly, the last thing I was reading before I thought of that was some comment on our chat. I don't want to hear Chris or any of you guys try to. deny that Mahomes don't have the refs on their side. Oh my God.

Bro, I got so many numbers for you, you might as well just leave the show. You're not going to like the end of the show. So how do you know if your steaks are cooked the right way or not? Dude, I just guess. That's crazy. I just guess. I just guess. It's a feel thing.

It's a vibe thing. Yeah, like the steaks cooked. Feels like it feels like a thing. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty, I can't wait to put the glasses on you, man. You know what's crazy? I wonder if they have glasses so we can see what he sees. Yeah, I want glasses that make me empathize with you and your plight.

Yeah, you guys might kill yourself. I don't know. No, uh-uh. I don't see color today either. I mean, it is MLK. Oh, what a gunger. What a zinger. But you really can't use that.

I don't see color. Yeah, I use it all at that. It's crazy. Just don't use it today. No, not today. Yeah, we got some breaking news in the chat, boys. What is it? Ben Johnson to the Raiders?

No. Where? Bears. Bears. Wow. So he wasn't dead serious about the GM thing. Yep. Maybe he was playing the, maybe he was playing the, um, the, the, the Raiders against the bears, so you get more money.

More guac. More gauca moccamole. Hey. So what we heard initially, we were like, oh, Ben Johnson is going to Chicago. Then it felt like Ben Johnson. was going to Vegas because of the GM alignment thing and Tom Brady but maybe this guy was playing them for fools the whole time and get in here with your little bowl cut and give me a big number yeah and I'm going to take it to Virginia McCasky yeah who's older you know it's just

it's just it's just for this guy you only chess yeah she's been doing a long time yes you're doing a long top. The only chess game he can't win is the one where you don't fucking have the rook throw a a fucking a reverse pass in the second half of a playoff game. Oh, God. All right. So good, this is a good hire. Can he bring the offensive line with him? Are they free agents? I'm pretty interested to see how this works out because again, I think Caleb Williams is a legit guy. He's not, listen, for him to be Jaden, something crazy is going to have to happen. But I'll still take Caleb Williams. I think Caleb Williams is going to be fine. Now you lost a year in the process as we said you would because the team's not as good as you thought they were coming

to this season. And it's, oh my God, it's like very few quarterbacks just walk on an NFL field and play like the guy in Washington. It just doesn't happen. So you lost the year. But now you probably have hopefully what you think is the right guy. And I'm super interested, man. I don't know. He's got some offensive weapons to work with, man. He sure does. Who exactly is free agents, but like Swift, good back. Alan has been a pretty good fucking wide receiver in the NFL for a long time. DJ Moore struggled this year, but he's still got a lot.

He's going to get a lot out of DJ Moore because, number one, he's going to be, he's going to get DJ more on his best behavior next year because that guy was so miserable this year. So he's going to get DJ more on his best behavior. He's going to get DJ more in the screen game. You're going to be able to do a lot of things with him, you know, gadget-wise that I don't think people realize he's very good with the football in his hands you know the biggest thing for me is like moving the pocket

and getting this guy on the run that's one thing you haven't been able to do with Jared Gough to the degree that you're going to be able to do here in Chicago which is exciting for him is he responsible for the trick plays and shit yeah he's the yeah I don't want to see that with Caleb you know what are you talking about that fucking

crack toss shovel that they ran. That was cool. That was the most animated I've seen Tom Brady on the broadcast. Yeah, because you couldn't wait to hire the guy.

Literally know. Yeah. That was, that play was also run by the Steelers in 2000, like mid-2000s. Who's a thief? Yeah, well, Anton Randall Well,

Anton Randall L, who's on the line staff probably brought it to a meeting and said, hey, we've seen this. But an issue for Ben Johnson that he's going to have to deal with. Keenan Allen,

DJ Moore, combined one of seven for one touchdown and one interception throwing the ball. Yeah, you can't. You got to know what he's going to do there. I'm surprised he took that job. Yeah. Honestly. He's got to find some better.

Also, I think taking the job speaks to the fact that I'm not saying, I'm not putting words in his mouth, but like that maybe he doesn't think Detroit's going to be as good. Yeah. And part of that is baked into your self-confidence, which is like, hey, I'm, I'm the fucking man. Dude, I'm the one turning down Matt Rule, bitch. and and uh and uh and uh you know you just uh you're going to lose both your coordinators i got a guy who i think's maybe more talented than the guy and although jerry golf is very talented and you know i'm not taking shots it's just Caleb's very talented he's got a lot of raw talent um you know and i think

you can do some exciting things that you couldn't do in detroit now in the beginning there are some things very major things that you're not going to be able to do that you could do in Detroit like run the ball the way they ran the ball like getting tackles out in space like a cheat code like that like Pena Seul um you know like having two really dynamic backs that are like thunder and lightning so anyways we'll get to that game in a in a moment but we promise we'd work backwards he's going to get T. Higgins that's what he's saying he's saying yo you guys get T. Higgins they also have Roma dunzae how many mouths can you feed they're not going to get spent on the o'clock you know what they need to do? Yeah, they need to go out and get

Rome as a three. The biggest hog mollies you can get. Rome as a three is perfect. Trey Smith. Is he a free agent? He don't mind help. Yeah. Really? Oh yeah. Did you get some scuttle butt or something that he doesn't want to be back? What is that

where it means? I just think that he's going to get priced out. Some like chatter. I think he's going to get, I think he's probably the going to be the scuttle butt. The most highly paid free agent interior offensive. lineman i mean i think there's a couple other guys that are kevin zitler uh ben jonson could bring kevin yeah zitler's probably going to be gone he's a free agent out of detroit that'd be a good dan skipper's also a free jit free agent yeah you bring dan skipper in to make cameo uh cameo appearances

every all year yeah um but anyway uh working backwards yeah got to talk about the birds let's talk about the birds like i think to be as succinct as i can i'll let you go with it at Bo because you were there too, but I wasn't there. But I think the Eagles defense made plays that won you the game, and you have the luxury of playing that way when you end up in the game scripts that you've been in. And like one of the things is you look at the Eagles offensive touchdowns this postseason. I could be missing one, but the passing game hasn't really factored into that a great deal.

You know, you end up with a muff kick against Green Bay, which kind of defines the game. and you have the Goddard stiff-armed touchdown run catch-end run which I think was on the heels of an explosive on a crosser so that was like definitely a part of the deal and then you have a long Sequeon run and yesterday you have a quarterback run part of a really good drive

and then two long Sequin runs so they haven't had to go to the passing game to the degree that I think we'd all like to see to make us all feel better about the passing game but we also know what the truth is The truth is, and this isn't a, they probably have the best roster remaining, and they probably have the fourth best quarterback. And that's not to say that the guy's not a fucking starting quarterbacker,

he can't win a Super Bowl. It's not what we're saying. But that's the reality you're working with. And this team can, through game script and through execution and him, listen, he didn't play poorly yesterday. Jalen didn't play poorly, in my opinion. The safety, you got to hit Goddard. But AJ Brown dropped a couple of balls that, you know, like quite honestly you got to catch.

And I thought the game plan the last couple weeks has not been incredibly aggressive in the past game. So like, listen, you come in a game where the D line can still wreck the game, even though you have a really good offensive line, you're going to rely on some quicker throws. Yeah. You know, it's just not a game, these two games that they played so far, where you're going to make the quarterback go win the game. And I think that's okay.

and I'm not going to do this thing where we get up here and I've got to take one side or the other. Here's the side I'm taking. The passing game's okay right now. It's not great. But it hasn't been... Good enough. It hasn't been explosive all year.

I mean, it's been explosive at times, but we've won a lot of games the Eagles have with the quarterback throwing for under 200 yards. And that's okay. Look around the fucking league right now. How many guys yesterday lit it up for $3.50? It's not happening. It might happen inside in New Orleans.

and that's where you start to worry, right? Might happen next week against this phenom rookie. If you play the way you played on defense last game, you give up explosives. But you know what? This guy's been there before and had to win shootouts. He went toe to toe to with Patrick Mahomes a couple years ago, albeit a couple coordinators ago.

And really, they have a chance to win that game, and it's not a fucking 2017 game. So if you want me to get on here in Cape for Jalen. It's irrelevant what the people that hate the guy think. It's totally fucking irrelevant. Guys is starting quarterback in the NFL. He gutted

through an injury yesterday and he wins games. If you want him to be Joe Burrow, if you want him to be Patrick Mahomes, if you want to be Josh Allen, you're going to asphyxiate yourself fucking holding your breath. But that's okay. You can still win a Super Bowl with this guy.

That's my take. Let's be happy about the the passing game. That's my take. It's got to be better. But it doesn't have to be better in that game and it doesn't have to be better in the game before that. So so far, we're fine. You're in the NFC championship at home. What is there to be, you know, upset about it? I think the thing that people are frustrated with is like you have Smitty, you have AJ Brown. AJ Brown had two receptions for 14 yards yesterday. You know, he's going to be opening up a goddamn public library on the sideline if that continues. But I mean, this is a, this was a battle in the trenches, dude.

Like the way this game unfolded, we had 34 rush attempts from the Eagles, just riding the strength of their offensive line, 21 rush. And part of that is just kind of dictated by the way, you know, the weather was and things like that. But like, there were 12 total sacks in this game. Like, what a fucking battle up front for the, you know, the Rams defensive line, the Eagles offensive line, and vice versa. I mean, that's what was fun. for me to watch. I was watching the game with Kelsey and John Sullivan, who played a center for a long time in the NFL, for the Vikings, for the Rams. He's from my area, John Sullivan. He's from up in Connecticut, Greenwich, Connecticut

high school starter, John Sullivan. Yeah. No, I mean, so it was just, it was fun to talk to them about just the fucking line play, man, because that's what, that's what this game was, and I think that's the biggest string of the Eagles football team. And you said it, dude, they are the best it's the best roster it's the most talented roster left in the place i think i was talking about this with kel's too it's like who from uh the commanders starting 22 who would start for the eagles i think three guys maybe uh frankie louvoo would probably start over nicoby dean possibly even if he's healthy and i i really like nicoby dean um johnton allen over milton william your number one's not allen over milton but i really love milton um

Agreed. You know, you got, really, that's a great point. There's not a lot of guys you would. I mean, there are guys. Great roster. There are guys, but I don't want to go through the list and start shitting on it. Maybe Zane Gonzalez right now with Jake's struggles. No, Zane Gonzalez makes me nervous.

Yeah, I agree. But I'm just saying like that Eagles are so talented. Like, you got a fucking great win at home. You're playing in the NFC championship against a division rival at home. Let's not be frustrated with the passing game, even though. No, you make it. really good point and i hope you're not reading it i hope you're not reading it as me being frustrated no no no i'm talking about because people in the chat sometimes it's like they're they're not listening

i just want to make sure you you hear me do i think jalen's the top five quarterback fuck no but do i think he's a winner and do i think you know ultimately it's good enough to bring a second super bowl home to that city yeah because the roster's so damn good and you know like he also did a really good job that's sayquan touchdown he chrisons he chrisons he took them into that. You know, like he's seeing they're overloaded to one side. He's got two linebackers mugged up in the A and the B. He checks them into it.

And, you know, some people are like, oh, no big deal. It's an easy thing. But, you know, he's still running the offense. And I don't think Kellan Moore has been great down the stretch. So, listen, I'm not doing the binary quarterback thing. Just because I think there are better quarterbacks in Jalen Hurts doesn't mean I think I need to see Tanner McKee. Fuck no.

Okay, let's just be real in here. you're trying to win a Super Bowl guys good enough to do it but he's got to play well and he didn't have to play his best the last two weeks but I'll tell you what he took care of the football yesterday other than that one before the half where we got a little lucky somebody fell on

that ball yeah I got a little word in the on that safety too and I know you said that he could have gotten the ball out to to I think it was Godder Godder was open but like camp Jergins got beat over the top on like a fire zone and the detackle got just skinny enough

and kind of landed didn't really set back with that post hand when he was sliding out to the B gap. Like I don't really put that on jail on as much as jergy and, you know, kind of him just getting his head in there and missing his block. No question. Dude, the Eagles were fucking great. But I mean, people always are like, oh, you guys only talk about, you know, the Eagles. I was really impressed with the Rams too. Yeah. Yeah.

Efford was fucking slang in that thing, dude. I fucking love him. And I'm a little, I've loved watching Cooper Cup play. I love Puka. Like, we all know that. I fucking was slobbing him up on that fucking live watch that we did last week. I'm a little scared that we just watched Cooper Cups last NFL football game. I'm a little scared that we watched Matthew Stafford's last NFL football game.

That scared me because those are two very good players and they're really good. Well, if Matt Stafford's done, he really went off in the sunset, like just slinging the ball in the snow. Yeah. Looking like he's at that last drive. I thought it was, I thought it was so tight when he hit Nuku. Like down to the 21. Let me tell you all. I thought it was done.

I told you all this was going, I'm not saying y'all, but some of y'all were like, and this is where I get in trouble because if I say something like I'm worried about the game, you're like, oh, well, he's picking against us or he doesn't think we're going to win the game. No, it's going to be a one possession game late at some point. And it fucking was. It fucking was. And it was for a lot of the game. But you know what happened? The defense made big plays in the second half. And that's the whole thing. This defense wants to be remembered, talked about like one of the best defenses, you know, you could be talked about it. If they go out, Bonn and Jalen Carter in the second half this football game were fucking monstrous. Zach had that series. And this, dude, I fucking love Wisconsin guys. Here that series, we're at TFL and he had a batted pass. Then a fumble recovery. Yep. That's massive.

Well, let me tell you what Jalen Carter did. Exactly. Please do, because he used a fucking game ball from me before anything else gets to it. Go ahead. Jalen Carter, Jailen Carter. Oh, shit. Jalen Carter. I think Jailen Carter.

Carter. I think Jalen Carter has talked himself, has played himself into being on like a short list of best defense tackles in the league. And honestly, when you take a snapshot of him, there's one guy in Kansas City, right, that you're like, it's kind of untouchable. You know, like, it's a legacy thing at this point. And he's still playing that way, that way. But not a lot of guys like him.

And, you know, you talk about like the safety and the way the air got sucked out of the stadium. and then coming out there and he's in a four-eye which is a really tough thing when the play goes away and you feel all that air you know kind of like in the run game tackle tries to knock his hands down he recovers and comes out and makes a linebacker type play dude like we've seen him he's not just a dominant player he's a really smart player unbelievably smart the trap he called out in the washing games popped into my head like there's a bunch of instances this year where man, that guy just knows ball. Bro, confusing the center on the slide.

No question. Two times in a row. In a row, bro. That's like unreal to do, like, as a de-lineman, to, like, to fake a center out, two plays in a row the same exact way. And he, yeah, he's a pretty unbelievable player. And I said, if they make the Super Bowl, long shot odds. Long shot odds.

I would pick him. to win the MVP because thinking back, Von Miller was like the last delinement to win an MVP during the Super Bowl and he had a game with two and a half sacks. And I feel like Jalen Carter, if he really wants to wreck a game, he can do that. And you can tell that defense coordinators,

their game playing for him. Wait, wait, wait. Did Jalen Carter pick somebody up in like a national championship too? Oh. When he picked up Stafford, I was like, who's not a small guy. No, but like you were like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, I was like, please no.

But, but, but, don't do it. Don't do it. Don't, but, but there was another time and I feel like it was like when he was in college, I don't know, it's, some de-tackle, it's in my head of him picking up a damn quarterback just to be like, Jane Daniels. He did a, yeah, he picked up Jaden Daniels. That's the one. Yeah. He picked him up and put his fucking hand in the air. Yeah.

Bro, it's his thing. That's his like, that's his like, throw that photo up. That's how he takes your life force. Uh-oh. You know, that's how he like just totally big dogs you. If he picks you up off the ground, I feel like from that point on, you know, like, he's around.

And so, like, that was huge. I think the fucking Nolan Smith strip sack was huge too. There it is. With his hand in the air. Wow. And, you know, like, I'd like to get six in the red zone late. You know, Lane had the penalty. supposedly the guys on on the rams were barking out the

they're barking out the cadence that's what they were complaining about down there but you know i'd love to get six in the red zone in that situation but overall just in a game where the front for the rams was very disruptive inside especially they ran some hellacious games where like mackay beckton got picked into oblivion or like got smoked on that et my verse smoke that's how you make a pick that's how you pick I got a diverse credit, man. He was talking all that shit. He played a good game.

He plays ass off. Backed up. He played his ass off. He had a great year, man. And I understand all the hate. Like, I was down there on the field before the game and everyone was doing the fuck out of him. Well, he brought that on himself. He was coming out of himself.

He knew what he was getting into, man. He's from that area. You know what I mean? They had fucking billboards up about it. Yeah. Speaking of it. Like, go ahead. But he played well.

That's all I'm saying. Like, he, you know, he kind of got played well in each phase of the game. I said Juan on that, on that, uh, uh, that run and I fucking love that like say he is a shit talking animal but the late run the late run I don't know if this is by design but verse folded he was the edge player on that back breaking run he folded inside and I think it was an instinct thing because he ended up on rose booms like feet and the eagles are three on two and then it's out the gate so like yeah you know some of the mistakes are probably on him and like listen I'd love to go back and watch the one-on-ones you know to see how it

played out for him because I think that front's just really good. I think tackles are really good. But he really did play as ass off. That guy's got my respect. I mean, he's hard not to like as a former left end. Yeah, and to go in with an attitude like that. I respect that, man. Sorry, go ahead.

Yeah, the O line and D line, both, like, on both sides, like I felt they played well. And my Beville Conway this week, there was a sick pitcher. It's an overshot pitcher of the Eagles, like, right after the snout. snap for the tush push and the Rams like D-line and it's like right before they're about to engage and in the snow and everything around it looked absolutely incredible that was a beautiful game the one thing that wasn't pretty though at times was finding um finding uh orin burke's um you know finding the guy who's in for Nikoby dean who listen it's just not expected to be playing that many

snaps. I think McVeigh was after him early. I think they were after Rogers a lot, especially in the middle of the game, trying to find opportunities to get chunks on him when Quignan went down. But again, Jalen Carter showed up big. Like there was at one point Robinson ran a, Robinson. What the fuck is the guy's name? Marcus Robinson. Yeah, ran a corner with Rogers and just couldn't get to it because of Jalen Carter. There was another one. Cooper Cup runs a deep comeback can't get to it because of Jalen

Carter. So the run game though was a little bit of a problem at times I think the commanders who ran for 190 or whatever it was against the Lions. Totally different front. We'll look at some of these opportunities to attack that backer. And we're going to talk about that game

in a second. Nolan, we were talking about this. I think the Eagles front seven is a lot more talented. I just said that. that but no yeah i just said that i agree but when you've got one buff go ahead go ahead go ahead no you go ahead go ahead go ahead no you go ahead go ahead go ahead i'll go ahead say what i was going to say but yeah so say what i was going to say like chris was getting at owerin berks um or touching on those spots where he kind of showed up maybe in a bad way in the run game the commanders are going to come out and spread you out and that's exactly right to stop the run in a light box because you're not going to be able to

you're not going to be able to have CJ Gardner Johnson, Cooper de Gene, adding into the run fit. So it's going to be a big spot for Warren Berks this week. That's the worry. If they spread you out and you have to, they get these double stacks outside the numbers and they're just playing a numbers game and like you got a light box. One guy fucking his fit up can, and you talk about quarterback run and a lot of the incident. So for Eagles fans who are like, oh, we're just going to just know that you might be pissed off at me this week because I'm going to say, going to be it's going to be a challenge any idea on the weather yet is it going to be snow again or

no snow uh it's i think it's like clear and i wonder um Trent Scott somebody asked who Trent Scott is he's a he's a guy who's playing guard in the NFZ championship lined up across from jalen Carter and Jordan Davis and these mother's proffing at the mouth so so you know and he was fine when he when he got in the game but Cosme he's done a good job does you know did you know about that new rule that you cannot use a towel to clean off your kicking space anymore that's hilarious it's crazy that was funny i i i i made it seem like it that like now that they kept saying now they're not allowed to use a towel because i guess kickers always have towels extra towels and stuff to wipe your like the ball off in your hands

and i guess you can't do any of that stuff anymore dude i i think that's hilarious that people are out there like it's also just like what's the point of that rule i guess it can be an advantage i don't know how? I don't know. What if you got a guy with huge hands? That's what I was saying. It's too. Or you make a car O-line or you make the mask. You make one of those backup O-Lyman that are just on field goal where like an extra heavy shirt and like a badly shirt so you can use it as a towel. You don't talk about? Yep. The mop mittens. Put one of those on, right? Put one of those odd. Wipe off the field. Or Nike needs to make a new glove with just that on there for the old linemen guys,

and they just wear that out there for that play. On this note, shout out of great man on those holds. On those holds. Oh, yeah. A couple tough snags for him there. Well, and Jake Elliott, honestly, just hitting a couple of those field goals, I know that, like, it was an extra point early. Yeah.

First one. Which sets a really ominous tone for the game, especially at home. And it's just like people are like, here we go again. But he hit those field goals late. No. But instead of pushing a bet, everyone would have won. Dude, I think more than anything, it was just about winning the game for most people listening. But I agree.

I mean, like the push is tough. And weather next week, Sunday, it's going to be a high of 39, low of 26, cloudy in Philadelphia. Okay. No precipitation. I thought it was always sunny in Philadelphia. That's bullshit. Can I read real fast a quote from Darius Lay post-game? Yeah, he was a good quote.

He was asked about facing former teammate Matthew Stafford. It was fun as hell until he started trying me the last two drives. Like, goddamn, staff. Like, damn, calm the fuck down. Like, shit. I know you've been slinging this motherfucker. Sling that motherfucker somewhere else. Slice funny, man.

Sounds like me, dude. He's funny. A lot of profanity. Slate played good. He almost had that pick. Great. Yeah, and I was like, oh, are we going to get bad Stafford because he was a little bit behind?

But I think he had to, like, adjust his window because somebody has hand up. because he really he really did he almost undercut that route i mean that would have changed the whole game credited with three past deflections i feel like he had three more um and the pressure cause if you puca had uh six catches 97 yards on 14 targets though but you know it's funny because i you haven't played for both these teams obviously i'm pulling for the eagles because you know it's just for all the reasons i've mentioned but part of me does feel like at times where I'm like, man, I did play for that team for a long time. And I got to show them some respect, man.

You know, McVeigh is one of the best coaches in the NFL. Stafford to me is like, he's one of my favorite quarterbacks because it's just something about his journey and, you know, the way people wrote him off and, you know, the whole thing. And I think now five, seven years later, we're like, oh, he's one of the best in the game. And he showed why that was yesterday. He said, hey, they said, hey, it's going to be cold.

cold, the weather's going to, I had some people tell me the Eagles are going to blow them out. You know, the weather's going to play into our hands. It felt like the weather played into the, the Rams hands in the passing game because they had a guy that could pass through it. And, you know, I think Nakua, man, he's so fun. We were just marveling at him blocking and just the effort he plays with. They have, they're hard to kill. Like the Rams are just hard to kill. I got a lot of respect for that program that Sean McVeigh's built. And obviously the front's a lot of fun, man. So if you're a Rams fan, you know, I think there's good times ahead watching this four-man rush.

The question is going to be how much longer can Stafford go? Yeah. I'm scared that that was his last game. And Cooper Cup, too, man. I don't know what it is. I just get the feeling that he's going to hang it up. I don't know. With all that looming, like with the team, this is probably the worst, worst flight of the year.

just for them going back. And more importantly, like all those guys right now, football is probably a big escape for what was going on in that area. So like the fact that you're on that flight and it's like, damn, the season's over. Yeah. And now like, back to reality.

I got to have to kind of like focus and have all this stuff that's been going on. Yeah. More in my face now that I'm not focused on football in the playoffs. If it is Stafford's last season, if he does hang it up after, you know in this off season do you think McVeigh also hangs it up he goes and takes a

tv gig no I don't think so man that that to me was like a weird like and you heard him talk about it in retrospect he was kind of like it was mental right yeah and you know I feel like the game's too good with McVey in it man and I feel like the last couple seasons since that happened since he flirted with the with the gig in the in the box he's he's reinvigorated his you know He seemed re-invigrated, you know, back into it. You know, they were one and four at the beginning of the season. Everyone was like, trade everybody. You should have taken that TV job.

And I want to give a tip of the cap to give Smith, who's the D-Line coach for the Rams. And, you know, actually reached out to me before the game. I'd never met him. I'd nominate him for a football guy. Yep. And I think he was just checking to see if I'd be around for the game and that sort of thing. But, you know, like him making that connection with me, that meant a lot. you know like yeah hey you know reaching out you're a former player we'd love to have you around and

yeah it's just cool and and i think for for gif i just wanted to say like just an amazing job of coaching four young guys like that i mean they were the one of the most feared four-man rush units in the league they're going to have more time to learn to rush together when i watched them at the beginning of the season i was like man somebody's coaching their ass off and i didn't know really you know who gif was to was to a degree that I do now. And I just think he did a great job with this group this year. As did Shula, I mean, Shula down the stretch,

giving them a fighting chance. You got to remember, we were kind of, there's so many moments for the Rams over the last couple of years where we'd be like, sell the parts, right? Yeah. Like we were kind of on that train this year. They were playing in a game at some point this year where we're like, if they lose, they sell the parts, right?

Yeah. And they're here. They flirted with the grill back there. Yeah. There was all the... They were almost on the grill. They were about to get rid of the pooper. Yeah.

So, some of the... Najib Carter said, Chris, why have you never nominated Slay as a football guy? Holy shit. You want to name the other 50 guys

on the Eagles, Najib? Like, I'm sorry. You have to do it this one for the G. Why have you never watched this show? Because if you watch the show, you'd know what the criteria

was for a football guy. You don't watch the show. Najeev's been... Why do you never watch the CW at 8, 9, Central on Friday nights. You got better things to do? I don't watch it. I just record it and my kids

watch it. And I walk in, I'm like, don't watch this shit. I'm not that good at this. Seriously. All right, what's next? Saturday night, the game that y'all were here for, watching Commanders Alliance. Ooh. Ooh. Can I give out an STL Memorial for this game?

Please. Cliff Kingsbury, man. I talked about it last week when I was in Charlottesville with you guys. Ben Johnson, obviously, the bell of the ball. But just, like, he should get some head coaching interviews. I'm sure he likely will. Like, he can't get interviewed now because they're in the NFC championship. But three for four and fourth downs, 481 total yards, zero sacks, zero turnovers,

three hundred or, sorry, 34 minutes of total possession. That's great. I mean, what a fucking game from him. He got the sauce out in Thailand. he went to Thailand got the sauce came back what kind of sauce

I don't know you got that you got that sauce baby you gotta ask him what does that mean when he got fired from the

no I know he's gonna chat he's gonna chat GPT me he's like in 2023 Cliff Kingsbury was fired

and went to Thailand I'm trying to figure out what the fuck he's talking about with the sauce he got the sauce out what does that mean

No, he got the sauce from there. Like his, he got his sauce back. Like a writer's block. Like a swagger bag. Yeah, he ain't have no sauce. You get fired. You go away. But you said he got the sauce out.

So I was trying to figure out what that man. If I said he got the sauce out in Thailand, what would you say? You'd be like, no. No, my God. Pause. Why are you always saying something like that? But he released all the sauce. Yep.

And he came back stateside. He was just a different guy. He's back. No, but he does have his sauce back. This is big. Bo, Bo. Really good synopsis. I don't want to step on your award.

So if you want to keep going. Real fast, Kevin in the chat said, fax, no printer. Fax, no printer. You need a t-shirt. This is no printer. But, you know, we were saying halfway through this year, yeah, like,

they figured him out. I guess it's hard to figure somebody out when you got the fucking next Joe Montana back there. I don't even know who to compare him to. I'm not really making a Joe Montana comparison. Like a cooler, better, more healthy RG3. I like that you threw cooler in there.

Yeah, he definitely is. That's hate. That is a little hate. That is hate from both of y'all. It is a little hate. It's hate. It was meant to be hate. It's hate.

But, but, but. I'm just talking about football. I'm trying to compare him to somebody. It's like there's no comp for this guy. dude he's so wiry he's cool as a cucumber bro he's so cool back there he's like he's so cool he's he's like unfazed i don't know he's like we were talking about they had the touchdown drive cut to him on the sideline and he like yeah just chill it though but he looks like happy as fuck he's not like over there all right and everybody in the chat agree i want you to say it with me

at home say it with me at home jaden daniel is elite. Just say it out loud. Just get it out of the way and say it because you're not going to like the show if you think he's not elite. The way I looked at Saturday night is there are four truly elite quarterbacks

in the NFL. And I'm talking about like the four guys that you would draft first. I'm not talking about year-to-year production. But who are you drafting first in the NFL? Some order of Mahomes, Alan, Lamar, Joe Burrow.

Okay. There have been a number of guys who have been vying, fighting for different reasons, making bids not out loud, but to be the thumb on that hand. Whether it's Jared Gough with his amazing regular season this year, he played great, you know, his body of work, whether it's people swearing Justin Herbert is already elite, or some other quarterback who's the flavor of the month. and maybe jaden is the flavor of the month but i fucking doubt it i'm gonna say after that saturday game you slide him right in there he's the thumb i have one he's the tetris piece what's your argument

bow my argument for you is this play devil devil needs no advocate here but go ahead i agree with you i'd like to start the statement by saying or this this by saying i agree with you i think he's elite however his body of work it's just obviously as a rookie it's not there if you're this time last year everyone's sitting at home saying C.J. Stroud. No, he was at home at this time last year. Okay. A week ago, last year, almost this time last year. You'd be kind of, everyone was saying the same thing about C.

We said he'd be a lead in the future. He regressed this year a little bit, C.J. Stroud. I think Jane Daniels is fucking elite. I would love to see him play this way for fucking 15 years. Would you know? Because that would be bad for the Eagles. Yeah. Don't say that.

Well, I would like to see him play very well. lose to the Eagles twice a year for 15 years. How about that? Is that better? No, that's exactly it. It's like as an analyst. Just saying his body of work like. No, no one's saying body of work.

He has played a lead all year. No one's saying body of work. I mean, there's some, there's some projection work being done when you put him in there with those guys, right? But there is no comp. Like, I'm sorry. I loved watching CJ Stroud last year. This guy's better.

Yeah. Yeah. And every guy you mentioned is 50 mil a year. Oh, God. That got me wet. And we're not going to go out and talk about like going in the season. The commanders win total six and a half, unless all you jumped on the over and told me they were going to be in the playoffs,

don't tell me that like that he hasn't done a lot with, with not a little, but a medium amount of talent around him. Like I hear people every week tell me Terry McLaren's not number one. I hear people tell me Zach Earth's having to run an outbreaking around all season. all season. Terry McLorne's a 1A. I hear people telling me, you know, the offensive line's okay. Diombi Brown, he's coming along, but he's not like, who's Alameda Zakiya's. Like, am I forgetting? Oh, Bates, the tight end. He's doing a lot with a good solid set of guys

and a coordinator who went to Thailand. Like, no one saw this coming. No. So then we can't at the end of the season be like, well, pump your brakes. She's just a rookie. Bro, I've never seen anything like this. He's healthy, man. I'm just worried about it. And then you had the quarterback run to it. That's another thing with CJ Stroud, who's mobile as fuck, but I would compare Straub more to like, like, Burrow mobility. That's what he reminds me of.

I mean, he had 16 carries in this game, man. That's a heavy workload for a slater brain. That were sent to him resulted in an individual. Now, Detroit sucks on defense. Yeah. When Amique Robertson went down in this game. game you were like oh man they're gonna have to score 40 points to win this game

didn't he break the fuck out of his arm did you see that by the way yeah broke the fuck out of that was my that was my that was my anti bevel like when they showed that that close up and if you know you know that arm was broken and this just walking off seeing his emotion

walking off the field kind of knowing like damn whether we win or lose this game like I'm fucking done is a bad it was I just if you're if you're if you're if you're if you're if you're if you're in the chat and you have a quarterback and you don't have to tell anybody you can just do this privately but just going to a dark room and and and ask yourself a question would I take that quarterback in Washington over my team's quarterback yeah the the list of people who say no should be like you fit them on one hand

and even in that category with some projection this guy might be just as good as some of them. Yeah. And he might end up being better. And it's the multiple instances of clutch performance that I think makes the body of work argument kind of falls flat.

One games in so many different ways late in the game. Now Detroit sucks. On defense, they had too many injuries. They got no pass rush. Got it. The Tampa Bay Bucks, they fumbled that game away.

They blew the game. All their close wins, and I'm building an argument for somebody who would say he's not elite. Stevenson's taking a nap. He's jacking off in the corner of the end zone. It's hail, Mary, he's mugging up the crowd. So that's a mistake on them.

You know, you talk about a lot of their other close wins. You know, they barely beat the Saints. That's not like exactly like a hallmark victory. You know, you barely beat the Giants, I think, early in the season. But they won a lot of close games. And in a lot of those games, the other team made the mistakes. I get all that. Watch the tape. Just watch the tape.

If you watch the tape and you know what you're looking at, this guy's fucking really good. He's going to be good for a long time. And so when you look at this game, I really do think Detroit was on a razor's edge away from this being like a nightmare matchup. And Amik Robertson's injury was the thing that put it over the line for me. It's like, because then you've got to rely on Vildor

and it's just not the same. And to beat the Detroit Lions, we said this all year. This is why it's not just Jaden. But the quarterback run factors into this. They ran for 198 yards or 190 yards or whatever it was, just short of 200. So to beat the Lions, you've got to be the Lions. And I thought in that respect, they said, hey, let's do it.

And the other thing we said was, and I said this last week, the keys to the victory for the commanders were, number one on defense, you have to come with early down pressure. you have to come with early down pressure early in the game and steal a punt they did it on the first possession they they edge pressure force a punt on an early down force the third and long force a punt then you have to get a red zone stop at least one and force some turnovers they forced five turnovers and the dorrance armstrong turnover uh the the the the strip sack is one of those plays that if they go to the super bowl you that's like an enormous play in in commander's lore which

is like a book this long. But like page three is Dorrance Armstrong, strip sacking Jared Gaw. Because if that game goes 14 to 3, even as good as this kid is, I don't know if they win. Yeah,

it's a chokehold. They have, it's a lot like the Bills game. It was almost a mirror image in some ways with the Detroit's offense not playing as efficiently. It felt more stressful for them than playing Josh Allen and the Bills.

That's how crazy that was. You know, like in the second half, it felt like they were under more stress playing the commanders than they were against the bills and then the other thing that mattered was the 12 men on the field that you know fourth down it turns into 38 28 28 and then the very next possession jameson williams throws that pick so like they made a litany of mistakes but like let's let's keep it up being here dude this guy's a fucking problem he's a problem yep and he's going to be a problem in the nfcs for a long time And it pains me that I have to get up here for the duration of my podcasting career likely

because I don't plan on doing this so I'm fucking 60. And that's how long I think he'll play. That this motherfucker is going to have me having to be like, yeah, I think you might not win this week. And everybody's going to kill me once or twice a year. Yeah. You know, like I got to pick the commander. You know, worst seat, though, the real worst seat. Yeah.

Jerry Jones seeing Dan Quinn. and Kellan Moore about to be in the NFC championship. Oh. It's unbelievable. He's going to be like, What the hell? There's a lot of people watching this game. If you're a Cowboys or a Giants fan,

you're just absolutely just sick to your stomach. Just like you're saying now, it's just the fact that seeing this game and seeing the future of these teams and the fact that like, damn, we might be seeing this years on years back to back. And then on top of it, a guy that you had, not saying that you guys were going to, but just seeing Sey and Juan having a season that he's having. Bro, does anybody in the fucking NBA when there's a fantastic rookie say,

I got to wait till next year? No. We hyped them up before we've ever even gotten them into the league. Darko Milichet. No, but he never had. the year we're talking about a year like this is a year that like you could argue you could are greatest rookie season ever yeah yeah and so and so I totally understand like pumping the breaks till next year but like man this is a hell of a time to do it after the best rookie season

ever from a quarterback it's like well I'm gonna need to but you know what's going to happen is like you know this is how things happen it's all the game's going to catch up to the offense no but it's all in real time this his season right now and the fact that it's not over yet, like whether they win this next game or they make it to the Super Bowl, like when everyone at the end of the season goes back and really dissects what he did

and put it like in a bubble, people are going to be like, wait, wait, maybe this was the best rookie season ever. Like, because you put into a factor too in the middle of the season that he potentially had broken ribs playing quarterback. Yeah. And he still was just like being,

able to take his team to where they're at and it's just i'm not saying he's going to be my homes or or win five championships what i'm saying is what i'm saying is we we got another one one of them yeah there's another one of those guys this is amazing and he's here now this great for the league it's amazing for the league yeah it's awesome they dropped in the right place shout out best seat shout out to magic johnson and just the commander's organization as a whole they they have a franchise quarterback that is going to change everything for them and for a franchise that's been bad for however long it just it's a it's i feel like it's a feel good a feel good story for them for sure uh yeah i mean people love to just for the sake of playing devil's advocate play devil's advocate

I feel like this is one word. I love to do that. Yeah, I know. But like, you know, if people don't like the take, which is just simply this kid's going to be very good, they're going to call it, you know, you know, they're going to call it deriding or something like that. I'm just being honest.

And everybody in the bar Saturday night, I'm fighting with this guy in the chat right now because he's telling us, he's telling us to get off of our knees and stop blow. You get off your knees. Go watch another podcast. You know why I like it too? You know why I like it too?

That's an Eagles fan. Yeah, well, I don't care if he's an Eagles fan. If you don't like the fact that the kid's really good, then get bent or watch tape. I told you. The reason. We're football players that get excited about good football players. Exactly. But you got to realize we do this for a living.

So anytime there's somebody that excites you, like enough to be like, holy shit, that's exciting to come in and talk about this kid. Like, it's fun to watch the guy play. And also this makes, the reason why it's excited to me is that we're in the DMV area and the fact that like real long time commanders slash the R word. fans. They are excited. And like I said, I went to my diner that I go to locally over it. I've seen an 80-year-old woman with a brand new, brand-new official Jaden Daniels jersey on. And that just makes me feel good in the sense that, damn, like, football really has fans. You have really diehard fans that, realistically,

they're waiting for their team to have a chance to win a Super Bowl. And we would, and we would move on and say it's just the lines, but I saw him do this against the Eagles. And they forced five turnovers. And was it five? Yeah, I think it was five. Five fucking turnovers. They still lost the game. Now they made mistakes in that game to give them the game a little bit.

But it ain't like this kid hasn't beaten good players. This kid can play. So the problem is now he's going to be playing next week at the link. and I don't know if the Eagles fans would have rather gone to all I'm hearing about is how shitty Detroit is would you rather go on to Detroit? You know, they just beat that team that everybody was like, I don't really want to go to Detroit.

And now revisionist history is the worst team in the world. The defense sucked down the stretch. And I just want to say this to close out the Detroit thing. The window ain't closed for them. You can't just close a window, you know, just because they're going to lose, you know, their coordinates. Give Dan a chance. to replace these guys.

Brad Holmes has done a terrific job. From a personnel standpoint, they're still a very good roster. I just thought they weren't quite ready to play. And whether that's the fact that they're coming off a buy and they've been so used to being like knife at their throat all year long that like they almost have to be that way. Like they gamble best when they're chasing.

Yeah. you know suddenly get a week off and a little bit of that like that adrenaline kind of dies down a little bit of that like we got to go to work the next day and i think also it's just the game script you know talk about the turnover early the pun early this is what happened to Detroit when they play good good quarterbacks late in the season and we're talking about great quarterbacks that's another thing like yeah josh allen did this to them but i haven't seen too many the brock purdy and then moved the ball right down the field but i didn't come out of that san francisco game being like holy ship rock party pay him now right tape exists you can watch it it's NFL has it on

on on on their website now like you can just be a regular Joe and go watch tape try it this guy's fucking scary are you worried if you're the lions a jared golf or a jared golf without ben johnson yes i think there's always an adjustment period but they do have the run game to build off up they're going to have to replace him with somebody who's really good at play action pass concepts like that to me maybe you bring somebody from from L.A. You know like who's the next branch of that tree? I don't know. I think the good thing though is like you probably you probably promote somebody from what yeah yeah yeah like they've done a really good job of building a culture yeah pretty quickly and I think that's you know if you're a

lion's fan like that gives you a lot of hope you have Dan Campbell still you have kind of the the straw that stirs the drink, as my boy C-Long likes to say. You got to stir the drink with the straw. One last thing, if I may. Shout out Zach Earts, man. Oh, yeah. Revenge game. Got to have it situations, third downs.

I would trust that guy with my life in a, and I got to have a third down. It's incredible. Oh, my gosh. Zachert's Revenge game. It was awesome. He's awesome. And so as we look ahead of the next week, like, listen, do I think the Eagles are better? As you laid it out, Bo,

go down a list of how many that was a great way to put it how many guys are you drafted i got to give credit to kelsey that was kelsey's uh little thought that's big of you thought tool right there yeah i'd love to take credit for that but i'm so print the headline kelsey thinks the commanders are kind of cheeks but i think it just speaks elsie was speaking more to the strength of the eagle i know i'm just joking but the whole point is like they're the better team you know they're gonna they they got every opportunity but like what I'm not going to do here is lie and say the Eagles have a better quarterback and to be honest to be honest I've been pretty impressed with with Dan Quinn there and and the way he's got

his defense to play and also in the playoffs you talk about like what he did to us in that first half of that Super Bowl in New England it was like he came out and that defense punched us in the mouth we didn't even know which way was up you know and that through the the game script now luckily we had Tom Brady, who's one of them guys, and, you know, we were able to dig out of that hole. But it kind of felt like- I'm as good as Jaydon Daniels, though. Well, obviously not. Right.

I just want some people's heads to explode in the chat. No, but the point is, Dan Quinn has had it. He's done a really good job of getting teams ready to play early in games in the playoffs. You know, and again, in the first half of this game, 300 yards of offense, that's not his offense but that team's ready to play and so i i do worry about you know coming to philly or you know the burke's cameo is a bit of a concern for the reasons we laid it out where they do spread the formation out you got to stop the the run with the light box they're really good at playing the numbers game you worry about third down getting them off the field we saw late in that second game some really

dead to rights instances with really good players having Jaden you know hemmed up and can't get them off the field that's something you worry about and honestly I think that the defense

for the commanders is playing as well as they've played in some spots so it's going to be a good football game if you're expecting a cakewalk you're not going to like listen to the show this week because I'm not going to paint it as a cakewalk it's going to be a good football football game and you got to realize it's the playoffs so you talk about like

You know you're a better team, but the commanders and the Eagles, we've been in this situation, 2017, where we didn't, we were underdogs, right, because of a quarterback getting hurt or whatnot, and we weren't favored in any of the games going on the line. That's empowering. It really does feel good to be the underdog in the playoffs. And they're rolling, man. Like, they got a lot of juice behind their guy, you know, they have a lot of momentum coming in this game.

Division opponent at their place. You've played there before. It's going to be, I think this is going to be a really physical game. It's going to be a physical ball game. Physical ball game. Can't wait. We're going to be there. Fucking people up.

Louvo just, yeah. Are you going to be fucked up going out there? No, I'm just, Bo. Bo is giving me shit because I don't go to the game. Are you going to go? Maybe. I don't know. I mean, it's not two weeks in a row.

You got to buy week. I got to buy week. I feel rested. Pack a cigarette. Go over to a lot. I feel rested. Get some reps in. Um, so anyways, here we go.

The game, you guys think you're mad hearing the Jaden Daniels is. good wait until you hear our takes on this thing well i don't know about our are we talking chiefs give us these numbers erin brockovich well i say something real quick before you rant for for a moment sure you can feel you're and up for one and i'm excited for it like i'm swelling you don't have to apologize for making a point go ahead i just want to say dude going to arrowhead as a fan was incredible for me i played there uh week two i think 2017 Chris they beat us uh yeah for It didn't feel like a big game though. No, it didn't.

But this game, dude, just like the whole thing, the atmosphere is cold out. Arrowhead is a fucking awesome stadium, man. Like everything involved with it, like all the fans, tailgating, it's like got the open dome, that open atmosphere. It was an awesome playoff experience. To go there just as a fan and watch that, not be on the field, that was a really cool thing. It was a great place, great place to watch it.

That dude, the chat says, Chris, get off your knees. Yeah, I was I was like Twitter fingering him He's a he's a Houston Texans fan He's upset I get it Tell your mother get off her knees Um Hey Chris you had a sack in that Week 2 game in 2017

I know Alex Smith was the quarterback This is pre pre-primal I probably had like two assisted tackles Let's fucking go You had one total tackle One solo A fucking tackle

Okay What's a dog on field goal though I was a fucking beast, bro. Oh, you also had a QB hit there, Bo. Oh, yeah, dude. Now, listen, if you're a Texans fan and you're mad about this. And I, I, fuck, I should be mad. I picked the Texans to go to the Super Bowl on a whim this August.

This team had all the makings of being like one of the hottest teams in the NFL. The roster is great. The whole thing. It started with the offensive line regression for me. Their inability to make adjustments at the half, which is one of the reasons I was surprised by Bob be slow at coming out with the drive of the year in the second half of this game that was an incredible drive that's a window into what they can look like I think they got they got a dude right you know like as we talk about quarterbacks we love cj stroud at least i do um i think inevitably

as as the rush got to be more and more of a problem more free runners in this game and down the line in the season it just became too much to overcome but i will tell you if you're a tech I'm a Texan's fan, and I know you don't want to hear this, your quarterback played, I don't want to say big, but he toughed it out. Like they mix in him the defense at times and the red zone. You talk about going on the road to play the Chiefs, and the Chiefs, the guy I've never heard of

running the ball back for 80 yards and- Romahe-Hio. Yeah, Ramahio. Is that he said? Yeah, and then you have a dumb penalty on top of that, which, by the way, the guy wasn't pushing his coach. He was, again, excited. He was excited. That's how guys communicate the NFL sometimes.

Fly on the wall for that one, though. But, uh, but here's the deal. Overall, I thought that team showed a lot of fight and you're in it at the end of the game with a chance to win it. I thought the fourth and ten call was terrible. why in the middle of a run of blitzes that went like seven dropbacks in a row and I saw something like 10 of 18 of his throws in the second half they brought extra rushers why when you haven't been able to put that fire out do you rush up to the line on fourth down and first off why are you going on fourth and 10 if there's one thing I have faith in this game is houston's defense right you know considering the short fields and that's sort of thing. They have they have kept the points down to this point. You should kick the ball, try to punt and pin, but the special teams have been terrible, and maybe that's part of it. Punton pin, man up. I don't know why they're in zone a lot of the game. Like, I felt like man

was a good way to be here and hope you get a short field and a fresh set of downs, man, with a chance to go in there and tie the ball game. Overall, I thought the Texans showed a lot of toughness and honestly, they could have played a lot worse. Now we're going to talk about the officials. I want to get this thing out of the way. I did not like the roughing the pastor call, naturally. I did this for a living, but also as a rusher, I knew as the play happened in real time that they might throw a flag. Now, we look back at the replay, and he did not touch him in the helmet. Head-neck area, maybe, which they can argue is a call, but it's not forcible, right? But my home sold it he is a salesman i'll give you that for sure it's not a good call by the letter of the law

now some chiefs fans will tell you it's a good call but when a rushers watching the game and sees that happen in real time and says oh he might have got him i turned my wife and said oh shoot i think it's i think that's coming back or that's they're going to get the first down it's a bang bang play i didn't see evidence in that moment that they were throwing the game for the chiefs like that to me is an unfortunate bad call, and it leads the points, right? Now, late in the game, and you're going to kill me, I thought it was a penalty on the slide. By the letter of the law, forcible contact with an elbow or a helmet,

doesn't mean I like sliding late, doesn't mean I like the way the rules are right now, doesn't mean I don't think it's incredibly hard to defend Patrick Mahomes and fucked up, like borderline unfair, considering the fact that he can be out there, pump faking people tiptoe on the side, sideline you saw him sell one and they didn't throw a flag on that play doesn't mean i don't like it doesn't mean i like it i thought that was a penalty i thought you could make an argument that was a

penalty now on a macro level i don't even need to argue with you like i really don't i mean that the numbers the numbers tell otherwise like it's actually pretty glaring this is from the athletic and now all of you going to stop listening now. I had a guy send me a guy sent me a screenshot of the penalties in this game. By the way, I'm going to pick the bills this week. I think the bills are beating the chiefs before you say I'm going to slurp the chiefs. I got the bills winning this fucking game. How about that? Right now, right here, I got the bills win this game. But I'm going to tell you what being fair and balance is all about. No Fox News. This is what it's about. Okay? From the athletic, NFL officials have amassed 47 penalties against the chiefs in the fourth quarter and overtimes of

one score games over the past two seasons, including playoffs. Those same officials have assessed 48 penalties against the Chiefs opponents in those same critical situations. The yardage totals are similarly close, 307 yards against the Chiefs, 340 against the opponents. I don't need to do the homework. It's right here. I got another one.

I watched this video last week. Let me just because I can see the chat going off. I'm not looking. Okay? Since 2018. This is when Patrick Mahomes took over his quarterback. The Chiefs have been assessed 800 plus more yards and penalties than their opponents. They have been called for 196 holds.

That's just their tackle that dude. He has 140 of them. Yeah, all Joanne Taylor. Over 4,000 dropbacks, 30 roughing the passer penalties, 4,000 dropbacks. Third and 10 or longer and fourth and five are longer. season. Chiefs have two penalties in their favor, 15th in the NFL, second half penalties in one score games. No team has had more flags turn against them than the Kansas City Chiefs. Unless the guy that I saw putting these stats together is just gaslighting me and lying.

And you can go out and see if these check out. I mean, you're arguing with feelings, not facts. And I don't like the feelings thing. Because I got feelings too. Here's a thing. Here's what I think. Here's my feelings. y'all hate the chiefs a lot more than I like the chiefs. Y'all are the ones emotional talking about all they get is the calls when the numbers say otherwise. So after a game, when I got fans screenshot and saying to me, hey, look at this, they had eight penalties for 96 yards or whatever. The chiefs had half of them. Numbers back it up, Chris.

I'm like, oh, well, let's ignore the macro statistical information and just cherry-picked this one game and be like, just see, look what happened. what do you think the conversation was after the Carl Chaffer's debacle, whether it was the Phantom Ruffing the passer on Tom Brady years back in primetime or Chris Jones screaming an official, which leads to a penalty and nobody knows what he said and the Colts win the game, or last year that Cadarious Tony character is off sides and all these fans all of a sudden are like they're experts on alignment an assignment in the NFL and the frequency

with which a penalty gets called in these situations. Y'all are arguing with feelings. I don't need to argue with people who are arguing with feelings. I'm going to lay out the numbers and then tell you that in every NFL game, a bad, bad call is made. Go back. Otherwise, we wouldn't hear all this complaint

about officiating every fucking game. They also play more primetime games than anybody, so you see them. And so I really do think, like, while those calls were fucked up, the one call was fucked up. The second call you put yourself in that position. I don't care if it's unfair or not.

Another thing about the Will Anderson thing is, and Jeff Schwartz made this point, and I think he made a really good point. As a former player, Will Anderson after the game, who I love, was like, hey, we knew we'd be playing against the officials and the chiefs. So if you know, if you know,

then lower your strike zone and don't make it close. Because we talk about all the time, don't put yourself in the position for them to pull a flag. Like, that's annoying to say that because, yeah, if you knew, then you adjust your rush, you adjust the way you tackle, like you maybe don't try to go for a big hit. You just go for the shore, like, sack and call it a day.

But it's one of those things, too, that I feel like quarterbacks, they all need to adapt. And whether you think it's, I don't know if it's pride or you feel like it's Bush League to do certain things, but to sell calls, is part of the game. now and Patrick Mahomes is the best one to do it. Josh Allen flops as much as anybody. Absolutely. He absolutely does. Seriously, I was just about to stay back. But it's something that helps your team potentially win.

You maybe not get the call all the time, but hey, if you're upset that it's happening, then I feel like all quarterbacks in any situation that's muddy, that they should maybe flop a little bit and you put it on the refs to give you the call or not. Like, especially out of bounds play, there was a play with Lamar, Jackson. I feel like if he would have maybe reacted a little bit, he would have probably got a call that was clearly a hit out of bounds. But it's... As a defender, I don't love any of those calls on the sideline. And listen, does Mahomes get like star treatment? Yeah, but he ain't the only one. No, he's not. And the numbers don't back up them getting all the... If you have an argument to make,

please, if you have an argument to make other than, listen to these guys glazing the chiefs, stop dick riding. That just tells me that's red flag. Guy doesn't have any brain cells. Or he's not an analytical thinker. Give me an actual argument. Don't give me some, you know, anecdotal bullshit. Like, well, the one time I saw this, that's not the way facts are worked out. Like, you have to, like, if you have a serious claim, like the chiefs get a bunch of calls,

yeah, the chiefs get a bunch of calls. You know who else gets a bunch of calls every other fucking team in the league. And just because you saw their game in prime time and you really want them to lose. And this is where I'm different than you. because I'm not a fan anymore. I was a fan when I was a kid. I played professional football for 11 years. Now I analyze it for a living.

I'm not saying I'm better than you for that. I wish I could be a fan, but you operate with a certain amount of motion that I don't have to. And so like the chiefs don't hurt my feelings. I like greatness. They've been great. Bill's going to beat them this week.

They're not my favorite team. You know who my favorite teams are? These guys will tell you who I actually love. It ain't the Chiefs. It's the Buffalo Bill. and the Eagles. Not in that order, but like as far as teams that I kind of fanboy about.

Yep. And guess what? I'm a love watching Jaydon Daniels play. I was just about to say and now a commanders fan. Not a commander's fan, but I'm a fan of that kid. Guys, we're going to get that trip to the stadium, guys. They got to build a new stadium. I just want to keep twisting the knife.

You can't get to me. Hey, you're out there in the comments. Hey, listen, this is a fun argument. This isn't like a big fuck you, but like, nothing. you're saying, I'm watching the chat, I'm seeing it in the peripheral, I don't care. The numbers are the numbers. This is one of those things that there are arguments where I feel strained because I feel like I have to win them. I don't have to win this argument. Yeah. It really isn't even an argument. You can argue one call in a vacuum and be like, hey, they benefited from that call. Absolutely did.

But it happens every game. I think the point about all the prime time games, the Chiefs play was great because it's the availability heuristic where because people see them like they don't see all the bad calls that happen in the saints raiders game like in the titans giants games they happen in every game they're awful calls every single week somebody says it's timely flag calls not just fourth quarter calls chris well do me a favor and put together a study on that and get back to me because right now what we have is data on the fourth quarter and and i just mentioned third and 10 plus and fourth and five. Oh, but not timely like that,

like a different kind of timely. At some point, people that are conspiracy theorists, and this is the problem with conspiracy theories, is you don't have to prove your work. And the Venn diagram between people that are saying the chiefs get given every fucking game they ever won and people that think that the game is fixed is probably a fucking circle.

Because I can tell you neither thing's true. I played in the NFL. There are people who think it's played in a hands. anger. You sound a little like those people. Now, you could say in this particular game, I hated those calls. But when you start saying things like they always, and this is why, then you're just being emotional. So I just want you to know that. Like, I'm not saying you're dumb. I'm just saying your emotions are getting the best of you. Chris, I'm shocked that you have done this whole speech without once doing the voice, the patented voice. No, because I don't want to belittle people over

this. I want you to do that. Oh. Oh, I've been, oh, I grew up with the Chiefs winning. Oh, I can't take it anymore. I just have to. Oh. And I'm not saying like, listen, we all had teams we hated.

The Chiefs just, I'm the, I've never hated the Chiefs because they didn't, they weren't. I wasn't growing up watching the Chiefs win. They're not like the Cowboys when I was growing up. When I played it was the Patriots. And guess what? I didn't even hate the Patriots because they beat the, Seahawks in the Super Bowl and I couldn't wait to see the Seahawks lose. They were division rivals.

And on top of that, I just appreciate greatness. So, like, does that make me like a man with no loyalty or something? Because I'm not, you know, I'm not going to get behind hating a fucking franchise of wins all the time. Sorry, has it made me a front runner? No. I got the bills this weekend. Well, STL Memorial from this game.

Our guy, he's been a little quiet this season, but Travis Kelsey, seven catches for 117 yards in a TD. He was fantastic. He plays possum. That's what I think. That's what I feel like, and they just turn it on at just the right time. Well, I think part of it is they know how long a season is. Yep, absolutely.

I'm not saying they're trying not to look great. I mean, they still look like they could lose the Texans, which is not good. It's not good. You know, like, that's going to bite them in the ass if they play, you know, a team like the bills next week, I think, which is part of the reason I like the bills. you know not to mention the fact that i think they're going to have a hard time covering tight ends and and he's and he's got and he's got a plan and he's got a plan they got a plan i think the most important plan is spags his plan yeah i think that's the most important six three piece for carloftus

send him a hat cowboy well send a fucking bobby sloika hat that says don't block tight end don't lock that's the thing ends with tight ends seriously that's crazy that's kidding yikes that was crazy. I got a big thing that this game that I don't think you mentioned yet, Chris, I kind of, you went on for a while there. Special teams was a big difference maker in this game for me. You know, like you saw the opening kickoff return, brought it all the way down. I think they ended up on like, what, the 20 or something like that, had a short field. And then there was a block kick at the end of the game in a critical moment. And then two other missed kicks for the Tex and the other. That's a huge difference maker in the playoffs.

Fumberusky, Fumble Ruski. Also, I got a, I got a worse seat. That is my ass, freezing my ass off. Like, I'm a tough guy, okay? I grew up in Minnesota. I was so fucking cold when I was down there on that field before the game. It was self-replained tough guy, huh? Yes.

Yeah, the butt cheeks put away at that point. Did you see me benching and while smoking a cigarette? Like, if that's not a tough guy move, facts, I don't know what it is. so i mean it's unfortunate that we couldn't talk about things like hey spags bringing pressure in the in the key moments of the game like just saving it up and it felt like the minute they knew uh it was crunch time he just the floodgates opened the free runners came back just the gamesmanship um and like i think i think again like for the texans a great effort going there but like just they're not perfect the moment was too big for him a

couple weeks ago. When they played him, the moment was too big for him in a situation like this. They need to shore up the O-line. Special teams is terrible. E-for-F was exposed by Spags. Yeah.

No, they were. I mean, yeah, I feel like he's just, it's just like, it's been exposed. It's just wide open. Yeah.

Yeah. They ran the ball pretty well. I mean, to me it was just past pro, like a lot of it. Well, they ran the ball. Yeah. Joe makes that a good game, man.

For real. Joe Mixing played his ass off. What is the CBC? I thought CJ was really tough too. Like he got hurt early. He was tough all day. Just the O line for me is the biggest difference. Yeah.

What is kids? What are their tackles going to do? The tackles are probably not as nervous as they would be usually because they're playing the bills who are not thought of to be. Like I don't. Vaughn, you don't respect. Is that what I just said? No. Is the chat in the room?

Bro. I hear you. Is that what I said? No. Okay. I said when you look at the, I mean, it's not like you're playing the damn. I'm trying to think of like the Chargers or something. The Texans edge rushers are a lot better than the building.

The Texas edge rushers. Like, Vaughn's still got some juice. I like Rousseau. But this isn't like a game where they can't block them up. Honestly. Neil Hunter and Will Anderson win one on once consistently. Like, I think that this is a, I think the tackles will be okay. I want to see Ed Oliver get after the backup.

up like that to me is you know how does shah mcdermott attack was it calliando yep at oliver dekwan jones is really good and then uh you got mr canadian goose himself yeah phillips and they all reset the line of scrimmage yesterday but i i mean like in passing situations are you going to bring some pressure um you know i like i think that again i think the biggest matchup because the bills have an ability to put this game in a in a place where the chiefs are uncomfortable like the bills have a chance to score and get out in front and in that scenario I feel like the the script favors them because I do think they're going to be able to run the ball good enough and I think it's going to be really hard to get off the field you know it's it's going to be

done with a ball in his hands like quarterback design runs and critical critical moments that I think will be a huge factor in this game no question no question so I'm sorry. For the people to think, like, we were going to sit here and be like, Chiefs don't deserve it. The whole thing, like, fuck, man, you know, they were probably going to beat this Texans team. I don't think they needed that call. But it is one that didn't go the Texans way.

Now, Texas had plenty of chances late in the game to get back in it. And honestly, if the Texans won this game, we'd all be sitting here like, fuck, we had Texans in the AFC championship. So. Yeah, I told you I'd eat my hat, remember? Yeah, you don't want to be eating the hat. I had the blender ready for a little bit. Definitely not that hat. Unplugged it, thankfully.

God loves garage beer. Not this. He's like a fucking billboard. Jesus. This is the jacket they made for Pluto. We got a green light patch on here somewhere. There you go. Jojo says Josh Allen chokes when it's important.

Jojo, you must be also an emotional person. He must have missed the game yesterday. He also must have missed all the games that he's played in the playoffs. Yeah. When is he choked, Jojo? in the playoffs get back to me get back to me with a with a data set

on some key calls in the fourth quarter not all the similar data set before we move on I want to give one more shout out to this game I saw a lot of toughness out of the chiefs a lot of toughness out of the chiefs on the sideline too Britney Mahomes gave birth

like three days ago and was out there supporting her boy Patrick Mahomes on the sideline I thought that was incredible. Oh, that's huge. That's huge. And it's rigid weather, too, you know? That's big.

Kind of love to see that. That's big. Big day to day, too, you know, so it's a lot going on. Some people look for any excuse to not go to football games, you know? Yeah. Like, just some people out there are just soft and don't want to go to attend like these awesome games, but then others just give birth and then are there on the sidelines. Well, I've had a lot of sex, if you haven't noticed.

I got three kids. So one of these days, you know, you'll be a family man and you'd be too tired to go to these fucking games. I was happy this could be. I was on the, I was in the couch with Dr. Fax, listen to his takes, bro. It's like, it's the best seat. Best seat, me. I get to sit with Dr. Fax and watch playoff games. It's fucking awesome.

Look cold up there in Philly. I don't know if I would have want to be there. It was cold. You would have got to see, though. It was beautiful. You would have to see Perkins. It looks so good. I just, hey, listen, whether it was a perk or not, whatever it was.

I was really happy to see him after the game, just kind of like having fun. Bro. Mile. Brain sleet or snow, Eagles train to go. It's like whatever, it's like whatever pill or medicine he was on, it goes to show that he literally just has, like, rhymes in, like, inspirational quotes. Just, yeah, he just passed it through his brain. Passed to it. Like, and he's just like, and it's like, and it's like when he said it.

He's like, yeah, this is perfect for right here. Just that smile. Do you think Nick Saban, like in Alabama, he was just like, all right, Jaylon, what you got for me today? What's going to be the quote? He just walks by and just rips off something like that. Oh, it's so funny. It's so funny. Jojo, I'm not talking to you anymore.

You've made Jojo's week already. I know. Good for you. You know, don't choke. Don't fuck the week up. Well, here, a quick. from Airbnb and then we'll come back and we'll engage more with the chat. Yeah, let's do that.

I'm going to take a leak while you guys do that. What's up Greenlight fans? It's your boy, Dr. Fax, and I want to talk to you about Airbnb. Me and the Greenlight crew a few years ago, we stayed at Airbnb for the Super Bowl in Arizona, and it was absolutely immaculate. It had a huge cactus in the backyard, had a pool, had enough room for everybody, way better than a hotel. And then recently just purchased a house with my house.

my girl and we found out that we can be host and your house might be worth more than you think and you can find out at Airbnb.com slash host. Hey Nate, I think you kill it on that, on that ad read. Appreciate it. I think you do pretty solidly. Hopefully I'll get asked to do some more maybe. Yeah. And something you did earlier today, we have college football tonight.

Who you got? What was the bet you gave out? Oh. I don't know if everyone's going to like it. I just feel like everyone has just been talking about how there's no way Ohio State can lose this game. So naturally, I put a bet on Notre Dame, but I also put a bet for both teams to score over 20 points. So there's a nice little bet MGM that was both teams to score over 20 with Notre Dame winning money line plus 650. If it wins, it wins.

If it doesn't, it doesn't. I'm Irish. I'm inevitably going to have to bet the Irish to... So you probably like my bet. You should just take... I might probably take your bet. Take that bet, too. But it feels like it's just going to be a cake walk, doesn't it?

I don't know as much about college football as you guys. I think college... College is weird in a sense that if it's close and they're tied, like, bro, like, they can go into overtime and do that stupid shootout and who knows, but... I want Notre Dame to win solely for the fact that Brian. Ryan Kelly will look like a jack wagon. Oh, listen, I think it'd be awesome. I think Freeman seems like a great guy.

Obviously for the like the historical context of it would be sick. I mean, like it would be awesome. Martin Luther King. Yeah, and Ryan Day. I ain't going to lie, though. I don't dislike Ryan Day, but like Ryan Day is in it. If you're not an Ohio State fan, it's hard for you to look at Ohio State favorably. Now, I do have a friend who's coaching on that team who's doing a great job James Laronitis.

Caller, legend, Minnesota legend. Just total legend. Total legend. But if Notre Dame wins, that's the only thing, is Marcus Freeman just being all over the TV. I don't really like the way my girl will be looking, and she always asks. She's like, who's this guy?

No. He's really good looking. I know. And I'm just like, yo, you know, every time Notre Dame comes on, you find a way to see that. I made some shit up about him, no. Did you?

I just make some, like, untrue shit up about him. I tell everything. Or I heard he doesn't have great skin. or something like that like in person. Every time he comes up, I just make shit up. He's got halitosis. I think,

you gotta do something like, yo, yeah, yeah, you hear of, he's got halitosis. I bring up that, I think he has seven kids. I'm like,

he already has seven kids. Oh, is that what you do? Yeah. We go straight for like the bad breath or something like that. But yeah, if they do win, we're going to see his face all over for the next few months.

So, just got to kind of get ready for that. So they said Chris Dirtyback in for his own wife. Dirty back. that is definitely dirty packet oh that's the worst you're like man i know this guy's fucking good looking they just keep going with the isos i'm looking around i'm like yeah she's looking at the fucking tv right now what you're doing but you know what above all else i can't even lie he seems like a great person great person and i really want him to have success and you know what like

Notre Dame's fun they get the lit uniforms all my drunk catholic friends are excited when they win You know, it's awesome. So, real fast in the chat, Jack 613 asked, gave us two bucks. And they said, should Hunt get more snaps than Pacheco? Yes. Yes. No. It's a playoff time.

Hunt is ready. You don't see the way he ran? Pacheco ran. He didn't run better. I can't really answer the question. There's just some questions I don't feel like answering. I'm not at the facility. True.

I don't know what they're thinking. And that's what I'm saying. I trust. One guy might be better gap scheme. One guy might be better zone scheme. Like they're just different variables and different teams that they play. Checo's a fucking dog. Grimhont is really good too, but I think Pacheco is getting that workload.

Checo also gives you the explosive, the explosive possibility where he can just step on fire and all the way to the fucking end zone. Unfortunately, we haven't seen that after the injury yet. No, I know. So I know. Yeah, get him. Get him going. We're not at a package this week.

I just like I said I trust Andy Reid Andy I think Andy Reid knows what he's doing I think he knows what guys are are better in what situations for his offense so whatever he thinks is right whatever many snaps I say just go with it but go with it I like the energy that Kareem Hunt did play yesterday

all right let me ask you this is a fun little time to just knock off any any remaining questions about the NFL playoffs but like do you feel like is there a Super Bowl that could be a blowout? Obviously the conversation is like if the commanders go, it's a big if. So they're going to win in Philly. Good luck. It's going to be tough.

If the commanders go, they're going to blow someone out, absolutely. You think they're going to blow somebody out? Flip that. I'm just saying like the potential matchups in the Super Bowl are all very different, very interesting. I'm sorry, but I know. Very different and very interesting. I know this is an Eagles pie, but I got commanders minus five and a half this weekend. It's a lot of points.

It's a lot of fucking points. In a game that, quite frankly, we already saw the second version of it, albeit without your really good quarterback in Jalen Hurst, who was knocked out of the game early. By the way, he's doing a great job of sliding. Seriously, I know you love sliding. Bro, absolutely. He was the king of smart plays yesterday.

That's what I said, because I always say that I think it's a little selfish when a quarterback doesn't slide. I wouldn't put it exactly that way. If it's not for a first down, that's how I feel. If it's not for a first down, what if a quarterback doesn't slide and gets dinged? Do you punch him on the sideline? Like, you remember when you were like,

Devo Samuel should have punched Jake Moody? I know owners want to, would you punch your quarterback if he didn't slide? It's just like, yo, is that a punchable offense? Maybe it's a grabable offense. Like, hey, we need you. What if he's already like kind of concussed

and you're shaking his brain around? You know, that's the one thing I do hate about football is just a lot of times after big, tackles for defenders, you might be shaken up, and you know what all your teammates do? They have but you. Oh, good job, good job. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure.

For sure. Not good. I think we need to end on giving you a shout out. Your back was against the wall. Steve was breathing down your neck in picks, and you turned in a four in one week. Yeah, I did. I did. You were a half point away from a push.

I was a half point away from a push, and really, if, man, it would have been better for everybody if it didn't come down to two point conversion because now I feel terrible for Mark Andrews and I'm four and one. Yeah. But you know, I felt good about that. It was, yeah, like we were on it. Talking about backs to the wall. What was Steve?

Steve went two, two and one. He was going to catch me. Yeah. Talking about backs to the wall, my viral moment of the week. Dynamite segue, whatever that is. If you guys are ever in a sticky situation and you're stuck in a coffin. and you're buried alive I found a

Oh bro Hey it was like We didn't give you contact Bro It was like a It's important that you Just in case you're buried alive You watch this

I sent the guys You just want to stand up Yep just push it into the Yeah just push it into the coffin And then you're out You want to wait till the mobsters leave and then you're just up through the surface. Oh, man.

He fucking, we got a group text. It's like third and 11 in the fourth quarter of one of those games yesterday with like the seasonal. Big steak. Huge steak. It was last night. Yeah, it was Bill Ravens. I'm not going to lie. I muted the group chat after you said that facts.

Bro, he put it in like during third down. The Super Bowl was occurring. Oh, my God. Hey, guys, time out real quick. I know you're watching the two, the two best. quarterbacks this year of play, but just in case you're buried alive, this is what you do. But it's not even what you do.

It's kind of your fault. It's something to do with your Wi-Fi. My algorithm goes crazy in your house. And Tanner, and Tanner said he got the Tanner said, you know, I literally watched that video 20 minutes ago right here. It's the algorithm in the Wi-Fi. Something about your house, man.

And I got that same video on my algorithm, and I was so fucking annoyed, Fathar. You did chat. Are you burying people at your house, Chris? No. Should I be worried? No. Okay.

Everyone from the chat shows up at Chris's house. He's going to bury him. The Wi-Fi telling me something? We show up in my house. That's another story. Show up my house like, I have, some of the guys are going to show up in my house, like banging on the door like fucking sucking the chiefs off, huh? I've come to.

The chiefs do get called. I've come to get, I'm going to do a B&E, you know? Like, that's, honestly, it's the Finkel and Einhorn. level NFL fan that you worry about. And I feel like a lot of them are conspiracy theorists. And a lot of them really like hate the chiefs thing. Damn, you know what I'm thinking about right now? This is crazy as hell. They don't like numbers. The people don't like the people that don't like numbers and facts really scare me. That's just a personal thing. What do you think my man that was robbing in the

wolf outfit? His chiefs is back on top. He's probably running it up in jail, betting on the Chiefs. You think he's just, he's betting the Chiefs? That's what he, that's what he was, he was robbing the bank and using money to bet on the Chief. I know, but you don't have any more, more money now. You got commissary. He's just bedding his commissary. He probably has a room full of snacks. He's probably betting cigarettes,

bro. Yep. He's probably got a fucker. Fly on the wall, what's he doing during games? And stamps? There's a lot of currency. Do you think during games that they let him watch the game, or do they change the TV? It depends on what type of facility and stuff you're in, but like, if you can't watch it, get on radio. or it's advanced in jail now probably someone if not or you probably pay someone probably has a phone

in internet to just bring it up on their phone you remember locked up raw i used to watch locked up raw like every saturday night on away games being cliff ryan my roommate shout out the cliff from michigan state we'd watch locked up raw we'd like make an appointment at 10 o'clock whenever we're on the road and then he'd go to sleep and snore and i wouldn't sleep the whole night professional athletes and and and i think kc wolf with his own like locked up raw season would be like must see tv like what's he doing now how does he go through a season hard knocks levin word he's a hollick bro that'd be incredible wouldn't it i would watch he would you would definitely watch that bro you love content that would be some prime content marketing there's way other people

on top of the list before him that are locked up that i would want to follow really rugs. Is he training? It just took a dark turn. I'm just saying he's about to get out. Is he about to get out? I think he's like two years. You're so.

But, yeah. But Bo, did you have a drip king for this week? I had a drip king of the week. For bringing up rugs. The most lighthearted part of the show. Anyway,

boys, fiery crashes and drip king of the week. Yeah, what a transition. I'm just fucking with you. I love you. Drip King of the Week. We got a photo here, Cowboy?

Yep. You sent it, you put it up earlier. Kelsey. Travis Kelsey, baby. Look at this fit. Look at this jacket. Fucking, he's got some Timberlins that are pink as well matching. Very solid fit.

Love that jacket, by the way. And I have a secondary drip king of the week. We got that up. I was a little covetous of this jacket as well. I would have loved to have somehow weasled this jacket. out of Jordan Phillips from the bills pregame warm up that's like the second time he's done that this year down he's awesome yes and I don't fucking blame him dude after you're being at that uh that cheese game man it is chilly pregame if you're really use one of those there's all those videos of like

the players going on the field shirtless and they're like yo this is how tough we yeah blah blah blah exactly you waste so much energy doing that do that wear the jacket put the jacket on you under your jersey everyone does that for the gram you know you're not you're not going out there shirtless you're on out there what about Fitzpatrick which I get you saying Fitzpatrick did that for the Graham hondo he hondo he I love that out of fits this has been a fucking hilarious hilarious personality on social media he was super jealous that you were hanging out with Whitworth and or he was jealous that we were hanging out with bow at the eagles game he was like upset he like quote tweeted me was like would don't steal bow it's one of my best friends don't

take him. He said I got legs. I got legs like an Iowa State Fair Dairy Cow or something like that. That's a good I haven't seen fits in in man far too long. I'm excited he's going to be out of the Super Bowl. Fits and Witts and Witt. You should hear what they're saying about your ass. What are they saying? Chris, why don't know. I haven't seen Kelsey's show. So I'm going to be I'm going to be a judge. I got to tune in. I'm going to send you that photo privately. Just don't show Meg. I'm not going to show Meg. Don't worry. Because she's going to think I'm looking at

what is it, BBWs on my phone. Yeah. Yeah. What does that stand for? Who is this bitch? Who is that stand for? What is that?

Why is BBW? Between me, like, wearing makeup and getting my hair done for Kelsey's show and that garage commercial we did.

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A Pog! That's the other one I was looking for. What's Pog stand for? Either pretty or fat-ass white girl. That's what I was looking for Pog. I was looking for Pog. He's looking at Pog. yeah

if they didn't ban pehub in Florida I might go excuse you got one of them you got one of them right wing leadership groups they don't want you

looking at prawn taking away my porn you're going to hurt people with this prawn it's the best thing you can do is stay home and keep it to himself all right

that's the show hey I really appreciate y'all if your team is not playing anymore. It's okay. It's not a big deal. I hope you enjoy the next week's games. Championship Sunday's awesome. Second best weekend in pro football behind what we just saw. If your team's not playing, just hate bet. Just bet under. Just bet under is on guys you don't like and it might be a

double win for you. But more than anything, I just want to say this. Like if I dog, if I dog walked you over the chiefs thing, that's not because I think I'm better than you. I just think I read more than you on this subject. And, and, uh, no, I just read more than you. And, and, and I don't dislike you. I think you're awesome. I hope you keep coming to the show. I still love you. Both feels like he sounded personal. No, I just get tired of the feelings. Give me some facts. Give me some facts. Hey, guys. Axis is sitting right next to you. No, I got facts. But thank you so much for being here. I love y'all. I love you all. Uh, take care.