Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Draft News + Scott Van Pelt From The Masters

Episode Date: April 7, 2026

SVP on GLP during Masters week - a tradition unlike any other! Chris and Macon have a great conversation with Scott Van Pelt who rings in from Augusta, Georgia. Not only do the fellas cover the Masters storylines but they talk Fernando Mendoza and Kirk Cousins in Las Vegas, Jo Adell's unreal play to rob three home runs, the Commanders potential options of their first round draft pick and more! Chris, Macon and Beau kick things off covering potential landing spots for Dexter Lawrence, draftee Uar Bernard and Chris' experience shotgunning beers with Luke Combs! (00:00:00) - Intro (00:03:05) - Chris Deletes Beers With Luke Combs (00:09:47) - Dexter Lawrence (00:14:51) - Uar Bernard (00:21:15) - SVP From The Masters! (00:24:00) - Previewing the 90th Edition of the Masters (00:43:00) - Commanders Potential Draftees (00:53:10) - Fernando Mendonza & Kirk Cousins (00:58:15) - Jo Adell Robs Three Home Runs Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline presented by Zone Nicotine and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open: ‪[phone]‬ Head to https://nicokick.com/zone and use code GL20 for 20% off at checkout. Check out Green Light's ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, where you can catch all the latest GL action: Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Overrated, underrated, properly rated the master's experience. It's underrated because no matter what you say about it, unless you experience it, you cannot process it. No matter what I tell you, it will exceed that. I would so much prefer a situation like Mendoza appears to be walking into with the raiders. I think it's the perfect situation to allow a veteran to show you what the game looks like, See what is required of you, and then at some point he can ease his way in. Pay particular attention to the lack of spray.

He consumed 100% of this beer. Ooh, I like the spike in the smash. It's a nice picture. This is my favorite picture of all time, dude. Mom-made pizza roll. Would you shock in a beer if somebody asks you to go up on stage at this age and ask you shocking a beer? Absolutely not.

Welcome to the show, guys. It's that time in the sports calendar where we book a golf guest and ask them 10 questions about golf and move on to everything else. Actually, 10 questions would be a lot. We got Scott Van Pelt today, who's in Augusta, Georgia. Seven irons and such, putters. Yeah. No cell phone.

We weren't you supposed to go up there, Beau? I was supposed to go, dude. But now you're not. Well, Chris, we have a fun little travel we climbed up for us. We got a big wedding for a former teammate this weekend. and I don't know about you, but I'm fucking stoked. I got a good outfit. So it's going to the Masters straight into a wedding.

That's a young man's game. I'm saving it for the wedding. There's some dress-up involved at this wedding, so I know you're going to be on your P's and Q's. You probably got a great outfit picked out. What are you wearing? I can't really say. A gentleman doesn't shop and tell.

Okay. Well, I'm excited. What kind of freaky fucking wedding are you guys going to? It's not like an eyes wide shut thing. Jeez, Louise. Well, we don't know that for sure. A cowboy wedding. Yeah, it's a cowboy wedding.

Okay. You know, so, um, so yeah, it's in Nashville. Okay. Two nights as some weddings are. Um, the way, you know, there's the thing the night before. Rehearsal dinner. Well, it's like a party. Okay.

Yeah. You know, we're not like, welcome reception. Welcome reception. You got it. Yes. Which are nice, because then you don't overdo it on the wedding night because you're just so fucking hung over over over overdo it at the, at the welcome dinner. Dude, I'm a first night here.

I said it's Monday and I'm talking about it already because I'm so excited to see you Chris and your lovely wife Meg and you've actually never met my girlfriend. She's coming. I'm actually looking forward to it. Yeah. I'm a little nervous. Anything I should know? You know, we'll we'll let her just impress. What she looked like? Kind of like you and a blonde wig making. That's what I figured. Yeah.

Same body type and everything. Yeah, dope. So actually I had a nice little warm-up. Speaking of the cowboy wedding coming up, me and Makeem went to a country music concert this weekend. I had alluded to the Luke Combs thing, and I didn't want to say anything. So basically, what happened was Luke Combs,

people hit me up and asked me to come to the show to shotgun a beer with him. Because he shotguns a beer, like, during a song. One too many. One too many. Which I'm a budding Luke Combs fan. I got to be honest with you. I always admired Luke Combs the guy.

Like whenever I saw him on an interview or whatever, saw him on Game Day. I was like, what a fucking cool guy. But Luke Combs, man, he put on a really good show, dude.

That show fucking rocked. We brought the kids. The kids were out till 1 a.m. I think that was the drunkest I've ever been around my kid. I think of the right of passage as a dad, like eventually you are going to be a little fucked up around your kids. The car ride home was pretty interesting. I wasn't driving,

obviously. But yeah, no, so I had to shotgun a beer with Luke Combs, and I was really nervous because the first thing I do, because I'm a prepared kind of guy is I looked up Luke Combs, shotgun and beers. And this guy, he was like a prodigy, dude. Like, he was showing Ed Shearron how to shotgun a beer. And like I didn't even, it was like a millisecond that the, his beer was on his lips, dude. And he, it was no spray. And he chucked it down. And Ed Shearron was blown away.

And so was I. And I was nervous. because I was like, fuck dude, I don't shotgun a lot of beers anymore. Like I'm 41 years old. It's kind of getting to the point where like, you know, you don't shotgun beers anymore. But I went out on the river Saturday

and I shotgun probably four or five practice beers during the day. That's just smart. That's called being prepared. Exactly. Not to be confused with the four or five day of practice shotguns that you also consume. That's what I meant.

Yeah. I was on the room for the day of the show, or the day of the show. So I went out. went out crammed before the test as bow would put it um came into town headed to the show and i got to tell you the reviews were very good bow there it is he aced it yeah i mean pay particular attention to the lack of spray he consumes 100% of this beer oh i like the spike in the smash yes That's smart.

So that's smart, Chris, because then they can't pick it up and pour it out to see what's in there. That's good. Exactly. So we got, we got through it. And this picture. It's a nice picture. This is my favorite picture of all time, dude. Mom made pizza rolls type of picture.

Yeah. Pretty good. But, uh, no, it was crazy. I was so fucking nervous, bro. That was the, it was so many people. I hadn't made a play in that stadium in 20 years. What was the adrenaline like? Can you cop the adrenaline?

No adrenaline. Because when you're playing, you're not drunk. you see so as the night went on you know I I kind of took the edge off if you know what I mean I wasn't like shit face but like I was like a nice little buzz

and then they take you down under the stage which was enormous and like you meet the little sound guy who's also got these two shotgun ready beers what flavor Miller light flavored did you did you choose that no that's his that's okay Luke Combs's pick. Okay. Um, and went up there and, you know, deleted the beer fast as fuck. And I was like,

that went well. And he dabbed me up. And then he started singing right away, which was kind of jarring. And I was like, man, I got to get the fuck out of here. And the funniest part was I turned around and it's just so many people. And I remember thinking to myself, I don't know how to get down off this stage. How did I get up here? You just got to dive. Just take a stage dive. Yeah. No, that's what I would have done if I couldn't find the stairway. But it took me like, you know how sometimes like, things are the adrenaline's pumping you know can feel longer than it is and for like a hot two seconds there i was like where the fuck am i you're doing john travolta dog don't know where i'm supposed to go luckily stumbled upon the stairs and found my way out but my kids were that you know it's

like man i didn't want to beat luke combs but i didn't want to get embarrassed by luke combs so i guess on some level i wanted to beat luke combs and uh when we got in the car afterwards it was funny because we were in a suite making was in the suite before with me like and there was like a period where they were just kind of like a hey it's song 15 so until then you can be up in the suite and the suite was occupied by some marketing people from bojangles who wanted to send us some bojangles stuff and we love bojangles and all that stuff so i was like yeah fuck yes bow time got we got in the car afterwards the funniest thing was they didn't say anything about luke combs immediately well and was like i can't believe we met the owners of bojango and tried out at the stadium and then it was like a 30 side i didn't correct them because i could barely i was like 30 seconds later he goes dad do you think you beat luke combs so it was just a it was a very uh fun moment um for me with my family like being in a concert with my kids till late at night

and seeing me get up there and not look like a total fool i mean you kind of look like a fool shotgun and a beer in my age but um we got it done so you look good chris i think you looked cool man appreciate it it's a good thing that i wasn't like with you and that because if if i would have been up there on stage after shock in the beer couldn't find my way out you know i just act like i belong up there i'd be the whole i'd spend the whole set try to spend the whole set up there yeah yeah you find a harmonica or something yeah you know start i was this close to being yeah i was this close to playing like stand up bass up there or something so but we got down afterwards got to meet luke combs just such a fucking nice guy's whole band was cool like really really good people so um

definitely beat another show. That was a lot of fun. And it made the final four kind of go by without like I was worried about missing the final four. Well, the games weren't great anyways. So ended up, you know, and it kept me from losing money. So, oh, this is interesting. This is from, this is from a couple years ago, but you given some love to Luke Combs on Twitter. He tweeted, what are we doing, talking about the Chris McAfry trade and then the DJ, or the Brian Burns trade. then you give, you say Luke Combs knows a ball.

Well, it's just fun to see a guy like Luke Combs, like really into the NFL trade talk and the news cycle, man. Now, I should have talked to him about the Panthers. I grew up a Panthers fan, and the Panthers are actually in good shape right now, although the six and a half number on the Panthers looks a little fishy to me. I mean, the team was just in the playoffs.

Vegas knows what they're doing. Just won eight games. Yeah, exactly. Out is pretty weak, too. Okay, so speaking of favorite teams, making your favorite team the new york giants was in the news today dexter lawrence who's been looking for a new deal for like two years now and hasn't gotten it has no no guaranteed money left had kind of a down year last year definitely by his standards down year people question his effort all sorts of

things well now he wants to trade you got harbaugh you got denard wilson is going to be the defensive quarter and those guys have talked in length about how important he is so it doesn't like if it was about being wanted. I think he's saying, show me the money. These are all nice sound bites, and I know I'm a good player and I'm important to the team, but he is requesting a trade. I don't think that means that the Giants have to give him a trade. I wonder what you think happens here, Macon. I think Dexter Lawrence returns to the New York Giants on a new deal. I think so, too.

It was a down year, and he is, I believe, age 29, fact check. Will be this fall. Okay. Still, it's easier to. to retain business you have than to acquire new business, right? There's no other better option for a team that thinks it might have a little something. Well, here's the counterpoint. And I do think the Giants are going to be better this year. I mean, that's not a big leap of logic to say that.

But I think the Giants are getting close to the phase where they're like, okay, we can try to win. I don't know they're going to be great by the time, you know, I think he might be 32 by the time the Giants. are like contenders if the bill goes the way you think it's going to go or whatever um there is a school of thought that if somebody was to send enough over like you just trade him you don't ask any questions you trade him because i look at it like would i trade for dexter lawrence i don't know that i would you know i don't know that i would depending on what the cost is and you know you have to

pay him like 17 million next year or something and like 20 million the next year um i actually think 195 in 2007 so you'd be paying him like 40 million dollars over the next two years And you probably have to get an extension done anyways. So you're going to have to pay for it. You're drafting a guy who's coming off a down year. A drafting guy, trading for a guy that's coming off a down year. He's going to be 30 soon. And, you know, if you're like the Raiders, say, or something like that,

you're probably looking at the draft class and saying, from people that know college football, they say, this draft class is just fine when it comes to defensive tackle talent. And so, like, there's cheaper options. So I think there is a school of thought that says, hey if somebody's willing to send over a hall big enough you just trade him you trade him and and you take the capital and you go on your merry way but like um i do think the most likely outcome is that he stays a giant yeah i'm with dude i think he's just trying to exercise any sort

of leverage that he has uh and like dude they're gonna run a little bit different scheme with wilson who was with the titans you know previously and if you're running a three three down look like that you can trust me because i played this position when you're a nose yard like that's kind of what you build your defense on. And I think it's interesting that he's kind of the one looking for a trade when we've talked about how many different edge rushers the Giants have and how they might be willing to part ways with one or two of those guys. So I think he's just trying to exercise whatever, you know, whatever leverage he has to try to get a deal done here before the draft, before the season starts and things like that. But I don't know. Like there aren't any teams that

immediately are coming to mind as like great fits for him, like teams that I'd be super excited to see him. I'd like to see him in a chiefs uniform as much as people. I was going to say chiefs or bills maybe. Bill's, but yeah, I don't know if the bills are willing to do that. They kind of just got out of cap hell. And then, you know, I did the Texans have been thrown around. They play such an attack style defense, but yeah, I mean, it would be interesting to see sexy Dexy in that like wide nine four down pin your ears back scheme that we're familiar with Chris. Like I think he would have, you know pretty incredible numbers especially considering the edge guys out of there

in Texas. Don't forget the Jags. In Houston also. Dr. Fax's talking about the Jags. I think he might have called that earlier this season too when there was some trade rumors. He was saying yeah yeah sexy Dexy. He wants the whole fucking league he wants everybody on the Jags too.

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He's a fucking freak. Bring up his vegetables. Bring up his picture, dude. I was going to have you guys guess his weight. There's this picture of him that everybody. seen now obviously you guys have seen it as well but the guy is like he's chiseled he's like made out of they made him out of a rock dude beefcake he's 306 pounds he ran a 4-6 3rd 3rd 3 9 broad 10 10 but the crazy thing about it reading about him was like I mean he hasn't played a down of football that that's

for people who haven't seen he's he's probably going to be a late round pick he's he's from the international program the NFL goes and finds these guys Jordan my lota is probably the most successful example of a guy that went through the international player pathway NFL draft prospects draw draws comps to wemby which i think is a little much because this guy hasn't played a down of football um but the measurables are insane i think it'll be an interesting case case study and like you know the NBA guys that said hey we because we're great athletes we can just play football and that's a totally different kind of body type but it's all the same you know and i took the other side of that where i was like football's really hard you

actually have to fucking play a long time and have football instincts and all that stuff but now i'm looking at this kid and i'm like maybe not well there's a physicality required chris and you look at some of these basketball dudes and you're like i don't know if he can you know cut off a six technique on the backside if he's a tight end but you look at this fucking guy and you're like i don't know if there's much that this guy wouldn't be able to physically do on the field as long as you can kind of you know get to an organization that develops that can develop him and make use of him that interesting thing to me that i love is that NFL pathways program it creates an extra roster spot for your team yeah so like that is an intriguing thing if you're looking at a

prospect with a high ceiling and you know like what what kind of downside is there to a to basically a free roster spot well you'd have to you probably have to use a draft pick to get this guy because his name's getting kind of hot and i think what's interesting about that is like you know if you draft a guy like him, you figure he's not going to be very good the first year. And, you know, it might not be year two. It might be year three. Like, he might not be on your roster anymore by the time he gets good. And I think also like when it comes to a guy that's from West Africa, I think, West Africa? Where's he from? Nigeria. Nigeria. I mean, the dude is, he's a ball of clay, as you pointed out like your defensive line coach has got to be good it's crazy how arbitrary his future

outcomes might be based upon what d-line room he ends up in and his bow knows and i know like the the range of how good a defensive line coach in the NFL is teaching technique is like it's huge dude the delta between the best and the worst one it's huge and there aren't a lot of great transcendent ones that can teach the game from the ground up so you know literally no base you know basically no base basis of football, right? Like none, nothing. None, but maybe that's a good thing, man, like no bad habits, you know, he's not thinking he knows better. You get these rookies these days who they have all the answers. It's kind of wild to truly have a guy that's a freak athlete and is just completely unboldened clay, like you're saying, man. I don't know. No bad habits. We talk about that

a lot with guys that like played just a couple years before they get drafted that sort of thing, like a lot of times international guys. But this is truly like, Jordan Milada was a guy that played rugby. So there's some like football kind of athleticism in that. This guy, I'm watching him doing pass rush drills on trees. Like that's all I've seen from this kid. I got to find him like sped up in 2X. I was like on his Instagram and that sort of thing.

Supposedly a great kid, super hard worker. If there's anybody that I think can pick it up and play, looking at his body and looking at his times and that sort of thing. Now he could get out there and be stiff athletically. a lot of guys who have great numbers and especially at defensive end now as a stiffer guy like i made it 11 years and played pretty well but like you know like there are some movements that if you could you could run great in a straight line you could jump far you could jump high um you know there is an inherent athleticism that's very specific to de line play

that he may not have you know and and so i think this is going to be a really interesting case study on like hey this is the best ball of clay we have ever seen with no football background entering the NFL draft. I mean, I don't think that's too far-fetched to say. What is the NFL going to be able to do with this kid? I got his relative athletic score pulled up. Are you familiar with this, Chris? Yeah. Well, by the way, look at mine, because mine's pretty sick from back of the day, it might be the most elite on the podcast. The interesting thing to me is like just watching that brief click clip. I'm always curious to see how like dudes with these kind of freak builds and, you know, obviously really low body fat guy. He's got great length. Like, how does he be

bend this three cone is probably the worst stat on here that's the one and that's the one yeah i think if you're trying to measure broad drum like freak broad for him which kind of is like linear explosive power which is maybe like how fast you get out of your stance you know something like that how that translates whereas like a three cone would be how are you addressing blocks how are you finishing at the top of rushes and things like that so i guess that just kind of speaks more to his lack of athletic experience but like what i'm thinking about when i see this dude i saw the clip on twitter i think we all saw it of this dude standing there yoked out of his mind and then it has like his height weight measurables you know you run into the dudes at the bar

who are like yeah why this one freak athlete that i played with in high school he could have played in the NFL like he definitely could have played the NFL like we've all heard that kind of shit you know this is like the only dude i've ever seen in my entire life who you're like yeah this guy could probably have a shot at playing in the NFL you know the arm length everything dude so I'll be interested to see where he gets picked up and what happens with this guy's career. It's pretty insane. All right. Well, having said all that, we've got golf to talk about briefly.

Four ironed. Yeah. Woods. Yep. And no better guy to talk about it with than Scott Van Pelt front of the program. We'll probably bounce around a lot in this one. So hang with us. But here's Scott.

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You take creatine, Nate? I do now. Yeah. You know who doesn't take creatine? Who's that? Rob Ninkovich. You can tell the way I threw him around in San Francisco. Hey, man.

You impressed me. You take some quick. My back still feels it. Having to wrestle with that motherfucker. he always wants to wrestle but he doesn't know I take create creatine so it doesn't just help you stay strong I really have always had trouble keeping weight on

like even when I played I used to go weigh in with like two and a half pound plates but now I don't have to do that I just take create gummies and I've increased doses like to the 7 to 10 grams a day range I'm not a doctor but it's one of the most studied supplements of all time and it's not just good for muscle retention for performance in the gym uh you know your boys 40 now so i really need uh my creatine

it's also good for cognition i really will take it sometimes in the afternoon and uh and feel a lot better um you know that last night before i went out on like fumes i popped a couple create gummies i felt nice and strong in the club i felt wide awake i felt like cognitively i could have done anything i needed to do i thought i could have solved a fucking rubyx cube jo tony walks up He's like, hey, can you do this? Yeah, I took my gummies today. So anyways, it's a good habit. I feel great when I'm on it.

And these are tasty gummies. Healthy brain, cognitive effects as I get older, very important. Muscle maintenance, keeping this physique. You know what I'm saying? And- Seek looks great, Chris. Your physique looks phenomenal. Thanks.

You too. Thank you. Thank you. No problem. welcoming now friend of the program from augusta georgia at the masters tournament we've got scott van pelt svp back in the building welcome back to green light scott how you doing buddy i'm in a very good headspace this is always a great week good time to be here uh you're here all week it's kind of a light lift honestly early in the week which is why this is perfect timing so great to be back with you

explore whatever space you guys are interested in. We're interested in a lot of different spaces, but I guess we'll start with golf. As somebody who, you know, like me, who's a pretty casual golf fan, definitely not somebody who follows it all year, but we'll tune in this weekend. Who's a guy that you're just rooting for?

Maybe that would be the best feel-good story that's got a legitimate shot of winning this thing. I'd love to see Justin Rose win here. He's a guy who's in his mid-40s, who twice in his life, Chris, twice, got to 72 holes on Sunday and no one was lower than he was. Twice. Meaning two green jackets. No.

Playoff twice. Lost both of them. And last year, he was like the wallpaper to Rory. I mean, everyone's rooting for Rory because of all that it represents, right? And then he gets there and he collapses to his knees and you're like, damn, this is, this is. This is real, right? Cool story. Meanwhile, Justin Rose couldn't be more of a gentleman. He's a fellow Euro rider cumber who's boys with Rory, but he's just kind of hanging out watching this guy celebrate. He's this close to realizing his dream. Like, cool for you. But meanwhile, twice I've been in a playoff and twice hadn't been me. And he's had more shares of the lead here through, whether it's Thursday, Friday, Saturday, whatever. I mean, he's been a fixture. So I get that he's, you know, not an American or whatever, but you ask, like, what will be a feel good story?

For a guy who's known him for a long, long time, who's carried himself like a champion, won this year, came close here twice. If JR won, it'd be really, really cool. And frankly, almost feels like no one's owed anything. But it feels like if you got one here, it would be just. Has it become more contentious with the whole, like, Ryder Cup thing and the international players and, like, live golf?

I don't know enough about this stuff. So if I'm asking a bad question, certainly let me know. But has it become more or less contentious with the international players? I think it was Fitzpatrick at the Players' Championship who said, because everyone was cheering for Cameron Young and their chant USA, USA. And he said, like, if they were trying to play Ryder Cup, they need to step their game up and get to New York and find out what it's about. You know, this ain't it.

I don't feel like it's that. particular not here. There'll be none of that here. Everyone shows up here and it's like when you put on your church clothes and you just act right. Like that's how people behave when they come here. There wouldn't be hostility towards anyone and if there were or would just wouldn't be tolerated. Overrated, underrated properly rated the master's experience because everyone says it's just the best sporting event one could attend. It's underrated because no matter what you say about it, Unless you experience it, you cannot process it. I told some folks last night, I was at a dinner, and there are a number of folks that I said,

who's going to Mar that's never been? And a few folks raised their hand. And I said, have fun. I wish I could see you when you walked out. Because no matter what I tell you, no matter what I tell you, it will exceed that. So could I say something not nice? Sometimes it's humid. Sometimes you get a warm.

You get a warm day. Maybe it's kind of on the humid sun. But I mean, no, it's like, I get it. And if this isn't your thing, you might roll your eyes. And that's fine. I'm not trying to sell you sunshine, man. I'm just telling you, you're asking, I've seen most everything there is to see in sports. I mean, I've been out of a long time. I still haven't been to the derby. Like, how is that? What a miss out of me. Are you serious? Never, never been. Dude, me neither. Chris, I saw your face. I mean, I can see.

I get it. It's a bad miss. I haven't been there. But I've seen most other things, and I'm telling you, this tops everything else. Will you commit to going to the Masters with me next year right now? Yes. Will you make a soft verbal commitment? Yeah.

Have you been to the Masters? No. I would love to go to the United. Have you been to the Kentucky Derby? Not the horse race. I've been to Churchill Downs to watch Kenny Chesney play music. That doesn't count. at all.

Speaking of Scott, on Saturday night, our very own Chris Long, shotgun to beer on stage at Scott Stadium. Very in the lead. With Luke Combs, am I? Well, you said shotgun to beer. There was a moment where I was like, well, no shit, he's done that before. But yeah, Luke Combs had me up on stage. You know, Luke Combs?

You've seen him on college game day? I do. Stanford, Steve. I've had him on my podcast. He has one of my all-time favorite songs about a boy going to bed and his dad, you know, Daddy, I'm afraid. If you're familiar with that song, it's even though I'm leaving. It's heavy.

It's like you're lucky. Your pop still here. Mine's not. Anybody that's lost their dad. I didn't know him from Adam other than I knew his music. And I reached out literally about that song. And he and I, and he's a massive sports fan. And he was here last year.

We tried to connect, but I missed him. He seems like he'd be as good a dude as you could hope to meet. That was my takeaway. I got to meet him after the show and obviously briefly met him on stage. When you were shotgunning a beer. Scott, at about 6 p.m. before the show started, I got a text from Chris that said, Just hit my fourth practice shotgun of the day. That turned into six.

And it showed, because it really was deleted within a few seconds with no... Clean. There was no foam, no spray. No spray. I think I was a little bit off sides. I think I beat Luke to the punch. Well, Luke also threw about the last. He threw his beer. Neither here nor there.

But I was very proud of myself. Would you shocking a beer if somebody asked you to go up on stage at this age and ask you shocking a beer? Abs of fucking lootly not. That was a glimmer of hope that you'd be saying absolutely, yes. No chance. Here's why. Here's why. It was.

Here's why. Because it would go poorly and there'd be foam everywhere and it's like, look at the peepaw, and then I'd chuck it half full, and then I'd get heckled afterwards. There's no win for me. No one's going to think I'm cool for doing it. They're just going to haze me for doing it and then doing it poorly. So, no. And yet, Scott, you're self-admittedly elderly.

Yep. You called him elderly? He called himself elderly. I did. And you're not looking old, though. You do look good. You're not a big fat guy. What's the regimen like these days?

I'm lucky that I think it's just sort of what I look like. I'm so fortunate that we reached that very, I don't know when it happened, but it was like, if you're bald, you just shave all your hair off. And instead of having that horrible horseshoe and like trending towards Ben Franklin, you just kind of, whatever, you just baldheaded. And then people call you penis. head on Twitter, but you just kind of shrug that off and keep it moving. But there's no regimen.

And I sit in the sun too much. I'm freckly. I don't think I look good, but it's like, whatever. I'm content with what it is. It is what it is. No, you look good, man. You got us here, but I have more golf questions. Can I finish with the golf question?

Okay, here's one thing that I'll say I don't like about the masters. Okay. And it's just since I became a podcaster, everybody has to do this obligatory fucking. and build your master's meal thing every year. Like it's going to be any different from one year to the next. You know, you have $10. The pomeo cheese is like five, like whatever other staples. How much do you hate that exercise at this point?

Because I've been lucky enough to be here all these years. And also because, again, again, I truly think that there's a certain, I joke about being elderly. I don't feel like I am necessarily. But I think that the older you get, the less tolerance you have for being bossed around and told what to do. I don't like pomeo cheese. No one can make me.

Don't want it, don't like it. You want it? Eat it. I don't. There are better options here. There's a delicious chicken sandwich. Have some of those. They came up with a chicken salad and a brioche bun the few years ago that was transcendent.

To me, life's real simple. Eat what you like. Don't eat what you don't like. The end. So it doesn't bother me, but just no one's going to boss. me into saying pimento and cheese is good because personally it's not my thing yeah it's one of those things man it's yeah you it's kind of like a people treat it like a bad take when it's just your taste buds doing the talk and i are there any no-noes besides obviously having your cell phone

that are less known at the masters like everybody talks about the having the no cell phone thing which actually seems like a fucking dream to me um what are the the more covert no-noes that you might even an experience master's goer might stumble upon. This is a great observation, though, by you. I think part of the reason that the experience is just so enjoyable is that we all are guilty of being slaves to the device, and we doom scroll and whatever, and it's just, it just takes up a tonnage of space in your brain, and some of it's beneficial, but largely it just isn't. You put that away and suddenly you're present with people and you're actually looking them in the eye and talking to them.

Like, it's just human interaction. And it's really, really beneficial. And so that's like a net positive in the midst of all the rest of this. You asked what are no-noes. I joke that it's the world's largest pool deck. What can you not do in a pool deck? Not allowed to run. Well, if you start picking up the pace with some high knees, there'll be none of this.

You could walk briskly. Really? I don't know where we discern the line between speedwalking and running. But no one, you're not going to, you're not going to high step around here, sir. So just take your time. You're going to get where you're going. No one's going to tackle you. There'll be no running.

If you're the guy that comes to scream Baba Booie, mashed potatoes on a drive, that's, I don't know what happens to those people. I just know I don't hear them. So I'm just going to assume that those people. folks are asked quietly to go, but you just don't hear that person out here. So, I mean, I think, again, it's like I said earlier, Chris, everyone shows up in a certain frame of mind. The experience is one that invites you to be relaxed and enjoy, and people just follow accordingly. They just act right. And it really makes for a fun time. It really, really does. Last thing on golf. And unless Cowboy Reed, you're the big golf fan here. Do you have like,

What's your best master's question for Scott? I'd love to know Scotty and Rory or the field. Field, field. And I answered quickly just because Rory is a total wild card. I have absolutely no idea what to expect now that he's untethered from the need to finish it off. Maybe that just means he goes bananas. I don't know. Scotty just keeps having these one iffy round a week, which is just enough for him not to win.

And I think there are 10 or more really good choices in the or the field that given that neither Rory nor Scotty show up absolutely crushing it that I feel better about having that pile full of guys than just two. And also Scotty just had a kid. I don't know if that's good or bad for your golf game. That might be a superpower for him, Chris. I think it's superpower. He had Bennett and then they just won like 10 tournaments.

Every trophy was another photo op for the game. a kid with a blowout, but it's fine. Yeah, maybe in golf, it's like the more distractions, the better. You know, they harp on distractions in football and other sports and that sort of thing. But in golf, like, to get out of your own head, maybe you have to think about something like the birth of a child or like, I just got out of jail not to poke fun at Scotty, but like the fucking guy's pretty good of compartmentalizing. He's not what you're in, dude.

Now, he's wild to me because he has this great competitive appetite. But then it's, I mean, it's like you. I mean, I know you and I talks like offline, just about the idea of a ring and a ring and like, what would it mean? And it's different. It's a team sport or whatever. But he had this ravenous appetite to want to win. But then he wins and he's like, you know, it's not like it's, it's not like it's,

it's, uh, sates the hunger. Is that the right use of the term? Like it's not, he doesn't quiet the anything. He's like, he wants to really, really wants to win. But then, and he shared that. Like after you win, it's like, yeah, whatever. It's not like it fulfills him in a way. I like that.

Truly, he's a faith-based, family-based guy who does have fire in his belly. But it's not like a furious thing that I got to win. It's wild. No, when he had that rant, now I'm just remembering that because you brought it up where he was like, listen, and I'm paraphrasing, obviously, because as I get older, my memory is not as good. But I think it was something to the effect of like, this doesn't make you. You know, it just doesn't. and you think, you know, you work your whole life towards a goal, and then the goal happens, and you're like, wait, I'm not set for life mentally.

Like, you know, like, I got to, I was lucky enough to win two Super Bowls. And, you know, I wake up every morning with the same bullshit problems. It doesn't solve all your problems. You know, it's funny is he said that last year in advance of the Open Championship. And then he won the Open Championship, right? He sits there on, like, on a Tuesday and is like, yeah, if you win, whatever. And then he won. And then it was great.

because some member of the press over in England is like, you know, you've just won the Open Championship. Is it, are you happy? He was like, yeah, it's pretty cool. All right. Well, are you going to celebrate? But I mean, I think they were legitimately curious. Like, it's very strange to us.

You said you didn't care if you won. No, I didn't say that. I just said if I won, it wouldn't be. Yeah, but now you've won. Are you happy? I'm just keep doing the accent because you seem to enjoy it. It is a pretty good accent, actually. Is it Si Wu Kim?

I read about this guy that got caught ripping a dart. It's fine. At TPC or something, he was in the woods. He was like in the forest fucking smoking a square, dude. What's the fucking, I know there's a female golfer that is known to rip darts, right? What's her name? Charlie Hall. Charlie Hall.

Yeah, Charlie. What is the etiquette on ripping darts? Is that against the rules? Is that like if you just get in the, Siwu, if you go in the woods, you'd be fine, but not on the fairways. This is the thing. Everyone, especially when you come here,

people, Arnold Palmer, the king, this incredibly handsome swashbuckling dude. Back in the day, he'd be on the tea, like on one tee, like, he'd throw it down and pick, like, hammer a drive and pick up the SIG and walk down the fairway.

Now, I think it's just the way society treats smokers. Like, if you go to the airport, they just put you into like a zoo animal if you want to smoke. You got to go in this, fish tank with all the other light-minded smokers and go smoke there. So I don't know what the rule is.

I didn't realize that we were, we had to hide. I mean, do what you want, man. Dude, I'm with you. The airport thing is like it's next level when you, when you pass the smoking aquarium. And there's like a life-size Joe Camel mannequin in there. And there's like just people breathing each other's smoke. It's fucking unreal.

But that's how you know that shit's addictive. Because for you to want to hang out in that motherfucker in the D terminal in Detroit. Like, and not just, and here's what really... You just came from L.A. to Newark. And you're sprinting to go on there and just like, you're just, whatever, give it to me. Well, you got a tight connection?

No, I just need a Marlboro Gold, man. And so, like, I don't know. The, probably the most demeaning part is that it is transparent. Sure. Because if that was me, I'd want to do that in privacy, so I'm not judged, but they make people get... Anyways, I had two of those motherfuckers.

the other day on the river. There's nothing better than a cigarette every now and again. You just don't want to do it regularly. Scott, did you ever smoke heaters back in the day? Not a lot, but when I went to Vegas, every now and then, and here's my thing. I would go,

I mean, I didn't stroll into the, into the shallow end. I just went straight to the Newport's. Give me some menthols. And I would smoke like a pack. Now, this is maybe,

could have potentially been dabbling in recreationals, and then it took a turn, right? We're gambling, it's late, maybe we've had something. And for a nonsmoker to rip through a pack of menthol's, I'd wake up in the morning and it felt like a gorilla had done a seat drop on my chest. Like my lungs, my ribs ached, and I thought I may not survive the day for a nonsmoker.

So, and then you'd have that. I know exactly what you mean. That happened to me in San Francisco. at the super... Fingers are all discolored and it's just... Mentals. I didn't enjoy it at all. At the time, however,

that feeling was really exceptional. The feeling is great. And I got... In those moments, you're like, man, I fucking get why millions of people year risk their lives to do this perpetually. Like, it's a... Like, this is a motherfucker right here.

My idiosyncrasy is this, and I got called out on it recently. I'm such an environmentalist, Scott, that after I smoke a cigarette, I'm not because I'm not a regular smoker. I don't know what the, I don't know what the kind of, the rule is on tossing your cigarette

and like a gutter or something. And a lot of times they don't have like that sand bucket or that ashtray. I'll put the, I'll put the extinguished squares in my pocket. So, you know, I'll go home and take the jeans off and take off my, my,

you remember my belk slippers? Take off my slippers and, and put the jeans on the bed. I'm like, God damn, why is this? smell like fucking Camel Joe in here, dude. Because I got six butts in my pocket. What are you doing?

But it's better than throwing the motherfuckers in the street. That's just not classy. I mean, no, but I, there's no, there's nothing between in the gutter or in the street or in my pocket. There's no other option. Like a beer can. It's black and white with me, Scott. All right.

It's black and white with me, dude. Clearly. All right. From cigarettes, from cigarettes to the Washington. Washington commanders. That's a pretty straight line. Linear. Scottie, we've got the NFL draft coming up.

And something different is going on in Washington the last couple of years. You have a good team and you're picking near the top of the draft. And I'm wondering what you think they should do. What are they seven? Yep, seven. What are they doing at seven this year? I'll tell you who I want. I don't think he's going to be there.

And I'm curious, because you played this position quite well for quite a while. What do you got from me on Bailey, David Bailey? Played at Stanford, then Texas Tech, how do you feel about six, three and a half, 251 ran a four, five, 40? I mean, it's fine. Guys are getting smaller and smaller now. It's not about being a big dominant left defensive end or something. Guys don't have to weigh 275.

You know, guys who are built like backers now. You know, you got the Bane thing. everybody's talking about his arm length the whole thing you know it really is and people are killing the the Reese kid about the way he looked on the bags and they're lauding

and they're lauding, they're bane and I'm like looking at him and I'm saying it's a fucking bag drill dude like so there's so much I don't know but for me it's more a question of like how do you want to build your team like do you do you believe in the hey we've got a rookie quarterback a rookie deal quarterback

like you've got to put weapons around him I don't love the receiving core No, it's bad. They could use help there. If they go Tate at 7 from Ohio State, I liked him a lot. But he ran one bad route that made it on social media, and people decided apparently that I guess that he sucked because he sort of slipped on a route. I love that. I love the draft experts in the social space that are going to just dive in. I just, now granted, he played opposite Smith. Now, do I think Tate benefited from being in a wide receiver being the second to him? Yeah, I do, clearly. but Washington, they do need help at receiver, and Debo's not going to be back. So if they go, why receiver doesn't trouble me, but their defense is old.

And, you know, they bring in away from the Chargers by way of the trade from Baltimore. And if you want to put another, if you can get a Bailey or a Bay. And by the way, Bain's arms, you know what I notice on tape? And when I watched Miami play, the guy with a short arms, he's sacked the, lot of quarterbacks. I don't know how he did it because apparently he had T. Rex arms. I don't know how he got back there, but I mean, he managed to get to the quarterback. So you give me another end. That's fine. I like end or Y receiver with that spot. I've seen people try to put the, you know, the running back from Notre Dame. Like,

he's not going to be there. So I don't, I don't think you're going to have an opportunity to do that. So give me, give me Tate. give me Bain, give me Bailey, if those guys are there. People are talking about Sunny Stiles a lot. I've seen that on some podcasts, some commanders podcasts. And yeah, I mean, for whatever it's worth. I just having it, it's funny with the running back position, you say the kid from Notre Dame is not going to be there.

I think Jemir Gibbs and Bajon Robinson have done a lot for that position over the last few years because, you know, there's all, you can take all these cherry-pitched statistics about picking guys in the top 10 or top 15 or that sort of thing and say, You know, they don't really change the weather for a team and that sort of thing. But usually teams face with that decision don't have their franchise quarterback. And you guys clearly do. And people say, well, what is Bajan Robinson done for Atlanta down? Well, he's electric and they haven't had a quarterback.

And what is Jemir Gibbs done for Detroit? He's transformed the entire offense. And honestly, if he's not on the field last year, the floor is fucking the basement, dude. So, you know, I do think that drafting running backs in the top 10 is totally fine. If you have your guy, there's some really dynamic playmakers and also the way you use running backs in today's NFL is totally different. They're running backs plus. You know, if you're going to tell me you're just going to draft the two down back in the top 10,

I wouldn't do it. But I do think, you know, people fall in these categories of, hey, are we drafting for value or are we drafting, you know, according to our need, right? Like I am, you never get fired for drafting good players. I really don't think you do. So if it's a safety, draft the fucking safety in the top 10. For sure.

And if I'm the commanders, I look at that wide receiver room and I say, you know, the Eagles have two all pro corners. It's hard to throw the ball on them. You probably want to be a little bit better there. But I totally understand because the OA pick or the OA pick, the OA trade and the subsequent deal. Like I thought that's a lot of money for him. Like I don't think he's going to be the type of guy that you're like, hey, he's just a 1A and he's wrecking the game.

for us. So, you know, it could be edge. It could be wide receiver, but it's either got to be edge or it's got to be a weapon for Jaden Daniels, in my opinion. I agree. I agree. And I mean, again, I don't love it. It seems like he's pegged maybe top five. And it's part of its talent, part of his sort of makeup. People are wowed by the guy. So draft process fascinates me. And I go back to when you and I met 100 years ago and, you know, you were getting ready to come out and it's amazing to me how poorly the league does for all of the, all of the, just the burn rate of whether it's just intellectual energy or actual capital that you're investing in trying to figure it out. And then the swings and misses blows my mind.

And I wonder this, this is a whole other philosophical question, but I'm sincere in my curiosity. Like, I wonder how NIL changes dudes, because people that had to wait for that payday They're starving for it, man. But if you've already gotten it, has it taken some of the edge or some of the fire out of you? If you've already made seven figures before, you know, and I've heard GMs tell me, like, they went to, they went to the combine, and maybe they've met guys that think that this interview process, like, hey, man, you're not on a recruiting visit, dude. You're not going to pick us. We're going to pick you. You get that, right?

I just wonder how that changes the process. Maybe I'm completely out of my element or lane here, but I'm curious if that's a real thing or not. I don't know. You know, having never played with anybody who made any NIL money, I think the accepted kind of group think is if you have less, you're hungrier. And, you know, obviously, as somebody who had, you know, a safety net coming in. Right. Maybe that's bullshit. But.

Yeah. I do think there's a true. There's something true about it. And I played with some guys who came from absolutely nothing, and the hunger was like palpable. But you also play with some guys who came from not much and weren't real hungry. So, and at the same time, maybe some guys like get the bag and it's some pressure off where they can kind of, you know, be professionals and they've already had reps at kind of, you know, financial literacy, that sort of thing. Like that stuff, there's a lot of stresses that come with making your first check. the NFL. If you got your first bag in college and maybe you're able to grease some of the

squeaky wheels in your family or that sort of thing and you can kind of start fresh, like there's a side of that argument that would say maybe it's less stressful. But I'm kind of with you where it's probably harder to get the hungriest version of that athlete if they already have a couple million dollars in their pocket. And you know what's crazy is like there's a kid at Blue Ridge, which is a high school around here who's making $2 million to play at Georgia next year. And he looks like fucking he man, dude. But, you know, I go down and watch him play, and he's clearly a college football player. But I'm like, damn, dude, this is getting out of control.

I don't see $2 million. And so, you know, as we talk about the sport as a whole, like in the landscape, it's just, it's, it hasn't ruined college football for me. I'm not, I'm not sitting it out because I don't like NIL. I'm sitting out because it's hard for me to keep up. The transfer portal stuff is crazy. And I also think, you know, I'm burnout from watching so much pro football. But I don't know. Like we talk about this all the time.

Like if you could wave a magic wand and fix things, like, what would you do? Yeah. I think it's one transfer. I mean, there's so many things. You listened to Billis the other day talk about antitrust exemptions and a lot of them is going to be over our heads. But with three of the 10 starters in the national championship game about to tip in a few hours here, only three started at their current schools. Yeah.

It's different. And some will say the product is a little better because it's older. They're very literally older players playing. But you don't get the same, hey, I have a connection to that kid because I went to the same school and he's been there four or five years, went to the same classes, same restaurants, same bars, walked the same sidewalks. That part was cool about college sports. It was. You know what changed my mind a little bit? NC State team that made a deep run a couple years ago in basketball and they were all transfers,

but it felt very, it felt cool. It can still feel cool as fuck. I mean, then you get your Purdue's, like where everybody's still on the team and you got a bunch of guys that have been there for four years or whatever, but that's the exception, not the rule. Speaking of the draft, okay, Fernando, Fernando Mendoza, who I did, you know, I watched Indiana, you know, he's going to be the first pick in the draft. Bringing Kirk Cousins, Kirk Cousins, which is pretty funny. He's like the perfect chaperone for. a rookie quarterback. He's like, Kirk and Fernando Mendoza in Vegas, it's the antithesis of Vegas. It's actually perfect.

It's actually genius. Do you like the idea of sitting guys a little while? Or are you like one of these people that says, hey, you got this guy in a rookie deal, it's bad business not to take advantage of it while you have them at this number. I personally think that's a little presumptuous because there's a chance the guy's not a very player or that your situation is so fucked up. You shell shock him in the first year. And then the value on years

two, three, and four tank because of what you did year one? Like, what's your take on, hey, people see the sticker shock on Kirk, but it's actually like, it's actually a pretty reasonable deal. Do you like playing veterans off the rip? I love what you said about

you draft someone and then you throw them in the deep end of the pool. And you would know this because you lived it. it ain't the same, man. It ain't the same. And look at Trevor Lawrence's first year. Here's a guy that we knew from his high school years coming out where who's going to get him. Is it Georgia?

Is it Clemson? Who's going to get him? And he was that dude from the minute that he took that job over in a game I want to say Bobby Dodd against Georgia Tech. And then he was off to the races. He was that guy. Then he gets in a situation. Urban's the coach.

And he, by October, we stopped talking about. about the guy that was the number one pick. Completely forgot he even existed. Well, a guy could be the guy, his whole life. And then in eight games of this, he looks around and is like, I can't do this. I stink. And you said the word, shell-shocked.

I would so much prefer a situation like Mendoza appears to be walking into with the Raiders, where you get a guy. And by the way, Kirk and him are like that Spider-Man meme, it seems like, right? They're like, hey, look at you. We're kind of a little bit different sort of dudes maybe. We're not going to the rhino. We're not playing high limit craps. I think it's the perfect situation to allow a veteran to show you what the game looks like,

see what is required of you. And then at some point, he can ease his way in because the Raiders, I know they spent a bunch of money in free agency, and anything would be better than what last year was because that was a horrific team. but I prefer it. I prefer allowing somebody to watch and learn from a veteran and every situation's different

but I think for Mendoza it's the perfect one presuming that Cousins is the guy from the gym. Yeah and the deal also sets it up so they have options after the first year. I mean like if they find out that Fernando Mendoza is just a dumpster fire which I don't anticipate then you can you've got security with Kirk

and that sort of thing and you are at the end of the day like you know if you miss on on Fernando Mendoza Clint Kubiak is going to be coaching for his job. And so it's nice to have that ace in the hole. And by the way, in my conversation with Kirk Cousins and seeing him in Atlanta, you know, we went down for camp last year, it wasn't a guy who was proceeding like what we saw in Atlanta where he couldn't take snaps under center and that sort of thing.

And his ankle was so fucked up as he was under the assumption that he was going to be back to his prior form. You know, I think a lot of us wrote Kirk off like, it's time to go to the old folks home. but in his mind he still thinks he has a couple more good years of football in him so god bless him for that and and i do like having the security because you know look at all the examples in pro football you drake may last year um takes him to the super bowl well his first year he sat till like the 10th game of the season you know jacobre beset you know efforted valiantly

for a couple months got killed in the process and honestly that's part of the thing it's like you know if you want your guy to survive maybe uh the stunt double needs to come in and stunt doubles, 37-year-old Kirk Cousins. And Jalen Hertz, you look at Jalen Hertz, who everybody's talking about right now in a negative light or whatever, Super Bowl MVP, been to two Super Bowls. He didn't play the first 12, 14 games the season. Patrick Mahomes is obviously a big example of being patient and that sort of thing.

I think there's a lot of counter examples to just throw the fucking guy in the fire because he's cheap at this age. You know, when Sam Bradford was drafted, my buddy Sammy B, and he got killed back there, you know, he was making a ton of money. That's before the rookie wage scale change. And so you did feel at that point, like, well, this guy's one of the highest paid players in the league.

He's got to play. You know, well, now things are a little bit different. And between those two quarterbacks, I think they're playing, I think the Raiders are paying like $10, $12 million for those two guys. So it's a really good, it's a really good strategy, in my opinion. Not everybody's got a got a Jaden Daniels. Okay, two more things here. We've got a little baseball, a little basketball for you, Scott, and let you go.

because I know you got beautiful Gus to Georgia to enjoy. MLB, we got this right fielder for the Angels last night, and I only bring this up. I don't watch baseball like that. It was legitimately the craziest thing that I've ever seen. This guy robbed three home runs. The third one, he's in the fucking front row with the fans. He's ass over tea kettle.

He catches all three home runs. That's a bunch of RBIs off the board. It's a record. I didn't think this record would ever look this way. Three robbed home runs in a single game. But the question I have for you, gentlemen, is, do you think that that has a chance to be the longest standing single game record in pro sports? I know that's a crazy question to ask.

But the more I thought about it, I was like, I don't think I'm going to see that again in my lifetime. All right. So I'm asking the definition of robbing the home run because the third one where he literally is in the stands. It was an incredible photograph. from behind him, standing up holding the ball, and you're looking back at the infield. That's true robbery.

Now, jumping up near the yellow line, and that, that's the stands there in Anaheim, that there's part of it where there's a big-ass wall that's above the wall. And so I'm not trying to be a nitpicker on what's the definition, but I'm just trying to, are we just saying anything that's near that was robbery? If the ball was a home run. then that's a robbery to me.

And there's different scales to robbery. You know, there's Grand Theft Auto. There's petty theft. Yeah, no, the last one is completely legitimate. And any, I'm hesitant to say that it couldn't be matched just because some of these stadiums include walls where, like Fenway, I mean, you could legitimately, it's waist high, right? You could reach in and do it.

But, I mean, three is a hell of a lot. The last one just was as photogenic a play as you'll ever see. Dude, I got a picture of him from the back standing there with his glove in the air. He's standing there in the stands, dude. It's just unbelievable to your point. But the sheer unlikelyhood of three home runs being hit at you in one game, like it takes some cooperation from the other team too. You know, I would have said Will Chamberlain's 100 point thing,

but then I saw Jimmy Butler score 80, or not Jimmy Butler, Bamm at a bio score 82. points in a basketball game a couple weeks ago it felt like and I'm kind of thinking somebody's going to score like con canipal or something's going to score 100 fucking points or something like it's not what it used to be like and I'm looking at the passing records in the NFL I wouldn't be shocked you know this one would shock me the wizards weren't putting up a great deal of uh of spirited effort on the defensive end I mean that's a whole other conversation man that the the teams that are trying and the teams that aren't, my God, it's just horrendous. And there's no fix.

But, I mean, BAM had 43 at halftime. And you're playing against a team whose goal isn't to win tonight. And I mean, and I give Spowe credit afterwards. He's like, he hit the McGregor on him. I apologize to absolutely no one. And if I'm playing a team, it's my job to coach my team. And if the other team doesn't care to try, well, then tough shit. We're going to score as many as we can have fun.

And then, of course, in the end, you got three wizards chasing Bam all over the place because now it matters to them. And then, you know, Miami gets some crap for how they approached it. And I said that night on SportsCenter, look, it's a bit of, it's farcical at the end, what Miami did. But if the other team you're playing by definition isn't competing, well, that's farcical too. And so you get what you get, man. Like if you faced a team that the left tackle's goal was not to win. and you're like, well, shit, I'm going to get eight sacks today. Well, that's on them, not you.

Yeah. No, I'm with you. And I think a lot of those players are trying their hardest to win, but by design that organization is not trying to win by having those players on the court. And the fucked up thing is like half the leagues making fun a bam for his pursuit of 82 points. You think you had this career night and then you're like the butt of everybody's joke. If the Wids kids have the number one overall pick and it's your pick, Scott, is it to bond? Bonsa, Peterson, Boozer, Wilson, somebody else.

Wilson's the wild card because he got hurt, and it bums me out because I really, I love a lot of his game. And so it's kind of an incomplete what we saw, right? We didn't get to see it. How far could he possibly take him? I really like DeBanza. There's, you know, I don't love comps. Player comps to me, they fall apart and they're often lazy. having said that, if you watch him play and you put on the Durant tape,

you see a tall, lean guy with handles and can score kind of all three levels, attack the rim, mid-range, which, by the way, you get two points for that. I know it's frowned upon, but give me two points all day. And also has range to three. If it's me, it's DeBontza. That's what I'd take him. I love Acuff from Arkansas. I mean, this draft's really deep, and the Wizards have had incredibly bad luck as it relates to the lottery.

But this is one of those years where if they ended up third or fourth or fifth, I feel like you're still getting a badass player. And that's why half the league is actively not trying to win on a nightly basis, because the depth of this draft is such that the higher you are, closer you are to the top, the better your chances to get a transcendent type of player. Parting shot, NBA snippet here. LeBron James doesn't like Memphis. People are shocked that the guy could have a least favorite city.

I get it. If I live in Memphis, I'm like, what the fuck? I just get hit with a stray. Like, you're at the hotel and you're at the stadium. Like, why shit on our city? Scott, Macon, let's take the gloves off for a second. What's your Memphis? Well, I operate in a college sports.

realm and it would you know your your your blacksburgs and your college parks probably take but even you know um here we go come on it's i want to hear scots i don't want to hear scots i don't want to really nice this fucking thing dude that's fine uh first i just want to say shout out to memphis i got your back i'm all about memphis you guys you guys are fiercely loyal. I've said this forever. Like Memphis is like it's got it's, it's its own country. It's its own universe.

They are about them. Grindhouse forever. I get this year's a down year, but I got Memphis's back first and last. But like what city do I hate? I don't know. How about making? How about that? It's a heart of Georgia.

Yeah, I mean, you might want to stop. Georgia. What, anyway, pick a, pick a Macon. Pick a Macon. fucking make it. Get out. I'll tell you what, Scott, Charlottesville is a fucking city now, dude, and it's on my shit list. It's too big. The roads are not laid out for success here. The Luke Combs concert the other night, you would have thought this was Richmond, dude. It was insane. You couldn't even draw it. So yeah, I'm going to curveball, Charlestville, get your act

together. The way the city's laid out is fucking laughable. Everything else about is great. So it's almost become too popular to, too popular to sustain itself? It's like all. Austin. It's like a mini Austin now. It's like a mini Austin. Okay. Has did Stanford Steve or has Stanford Steve brought up our season long NFL gambling competition on this show

entitled Backdoor Cover and follow up question. Are you aware he finished dead last? It's the type of thing Mike that as the thing you'll learn about most of us in the content biz is that anyone that's picking well is going to peacock all over the fucking place and let the world know that things are going pretty well.

Conversely, if you suck, you just keep your head down and wait for it to be over. So somewhere along the way I lost track, who won the season-long competition? Oh, well, you know who won it. I did, but, you know. But Steve didn't suck. Give me the numbers. Well over 500. Yeah.

So it's, you know, tail greenlight. When it's time, after the draft, Scott, Appreciate your time, dude. Enjoy the week. It's always great to see it. It's been too long, ma'am. Appreciate you, boys. Just programming note, if anyone's interested, par three is Wednesday. We'll be on doing that. It's actually a cool day, a fun day to see kind of a very different vibe of what this place is. So it's my favorite day, Wednesday. So when y'all come next year, come Wednesday. Because it's such a blast. And then we're on Thursday and Friday. So I appreciate being with you guys. I'm proud to see you guys killing it. It doesn't surprise me. You guys are awesome, thoughtful. I appreciate it.

all, even when people are taking shots in my beloved college park. It's fine. Oh, man. Haven't been there in years. Wouldn't know. Scott, thank you so much, dude. See you soon. See you, man. Thanks, brother. See, boys.