Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Free Agency! March Madness Bracket Breakdown With Stanford Steve. St. Patrick's Day Stout Beer Taste Test.

Episode Date: March 16, 2021

(00:58) - Welcome and NFL Free Agency. (23:00) - Drew Brees Retires. (42:20) - Stanford Steve on March Madness, NCAA Basketball Brackets and Teams to Watch. (1:18:38) - Daylight Savings, Tortoises and... Trespassing Co-Hosts. (1:31:57) - St. Patrick's Day Stout Beer Taste Test. Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I mean, if your fucking name is 18 syllables, it's like a play that the coach probably shouldn't be running. You should not be running that play. If it takes you seven seconds to tell me what the name of the beer is, you should not be making that beer. Second day of the week, third day of the week, however you want to look at it,
Starting point is 00:01:05 also marks a day into free agency. Okay? Like yesterday, your yesterday, my today. I kind of like that. I might do that when trying to put the pod in context in the future. My today, your yesterday was the first day of free agency. And man, it started off with a bang.
Starting point is 00:01:25 I want to get to that football stuff in a minute. But first, I want to lay the show out. I'm going to have some fun on the back end. I'm going to drink some stouts. I'm not going to know which stouts I'm drinking. There's going to be getting. I'm gonna see if I can pick it out. I will rate those stouts.
Starting point is 00:01:43 That's because St. Patrick's Day is your tomorrow. See how I'm crushing this. All right, I like this. St. Patrick's Day is your tomorrow. It's two days from now for me. We'll see where me drinking beer at the end of the show leads on a Monday evening, two days before St. Patrick's Day. I might just be starting early for St. Patty's Day because it is in my blood.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I am Irish And Stanford Steve is going to join in just a few minutes After we hit football Stanford Steve if you don't know it Is like a college basketball junkie Yeah like he was a football And he knows a ton about college football And you know him from Scott's show
Starting point is 00:02:24 And all that stuff But Steve is like a wealth of knowledge And I think he just helped me Like doing this interview A lot of days I consider this work Not today I basically just got all my tips for my bracket from Stanford Steve. So you'll enjoy that.
Starting point is 00:02:39 We're going to have him on in a couple of minutes to talk about March Madness. And I'm so glad it's here. Best time of the year. Best like sports thing, period. Don't care. Although Steve has a hot take on that you'll want to hear. So yeah, we got that in a little bit,
Starting point is 00:02:56 but the football news keeps coming in as I sit here Monday afternoon. And so because eventually I want to go home and see my biological family, You know, my son Reed is, he's one of my favorite sons, but I have two biological children. And I got to get home to them. So at this point Monday afternoon, we got Dune of the Chiefs,
Starting point is 00:03:16 which is big, you know, like people are freaking out about Patrick Mahomes and being protected rightfully. So that was a lot that one day. They just cut like every tackle that I've ever heard of. Like they just cut them all. It was remarkable. And Patrick Brown's just sitting there like, oh, shit. Zitler to Baltimore, another really quality offensive lineman on the move.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Kyle Long visited the Raiders today, huh? Kyle Long, son of Howie Long, brother of Jake Long, visited the Raiders where his famous father wore number 75. But Kyle wears number 75. Oh, boy. Carson Wet's situation? Michael Pittman Jr. Situation, dad?
Starting point is 00:04:08 I know, I know like, you know, you know, you don't have ownership over that number, but you should make a big fucking deal about it. You should make them, like, buy it off you. Oh, ho-hoo, hoo-hoo, Kenny Fowis. Oh, I like this. I might take this to the group techs. Yeah, we had John Johnson to Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:04:32 And the Chargers, with a big pickup, my side team, the Chargers, big pickup. Corey Lindley, center, more protection for Herbert. Lindley, big shot putter guy. Just read that about him today. He was a big shot putter guy and totally makes sense. Center being a shot putting guy.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I almost don't draft a center if he's not a shot putter. If he hasn't shot putted somewhere along the line, not drafting him. I think Balaga probably told him, hey, weather's pretty good down here. So is the kid. Come on down. Like, think about that.
Starting point is 00:05:15 You got that Green Bay to L.A. commute or, like, transition is ridiculous. On every level. It's ridiculous. It's almost unfathomable. And you think about, like, Brian Belaga, he lived in, and for those of you listening,
Starting point is 00:05:29 who don't know who Brian Belaga is, very good tackle in the NFL, a long time underrated tackle, right tackle, Aaron Rogers, ended up in L.A. with the Chargers. Brian Belaga lived in Iowa. I think he grew up in Iowa. Cowboy Reed, where did, where's Brian Balauga from? Illinois. Barrington, Illinois. Total Illinois guy guy, dude. University of Iowa. I know he went to Iowa, but like just fucking corn fed dude. Just guy just wakes up, corn for breakfast, corn for lunch, corn for dinner. He grew up in Illinois.
Starting point is 00:06:08 He played football in Iowa out in the cold. He then got drafted by the Packers and played excellent there for almost a decade. I mean, the guy hasn't seen the sun in years and just ends up in L.A., playing for the charges. The first day he got off the plane, he had to put on sunglasses. He was like powder in the movie powder. If you've seen the movie powder. It's like a big change for that guy. And the same thing for Lindley.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Youngstown, Ohio guy. Never seen the sun. Guys never seen the sun. Youngstown, Ohio. That's why I was so happy for this, dude. I don't even know him. I'm happy for him. Youngstown, Ohio.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Nothing against Green Bay. Green Bay, Los Angeles. He could live by. the ocean. He's never seen the ocean. Guy's going to be doing long walks on the beach. Just shot putting out there in the surf. Never seen the sun. Lindsley also allowed the fewest hurries and pressures among any center in the NFL
Starting point is 00:07:19 last year. One hurry, four pressures. Oh my God, dude. I might have a new favorite player. Great player. now he's a charger on my side team great shot putter I'm pulling for him there's a feel good story gotta put some sunscreen on big boy
Starting point is 00:07:36 here comes the sun cori lindsley yeah that's catchy read in Gokwee two years 26 million to the Raiders ooh they got their pass rusher
Starting point is 00:07:54 yeah they got their pass rusher good because Mayock kind of took a shot and my man down there, Max Crosby, who I love. You know, he didn't take a shot at Max Crosby, but he just said, I took it as a shot at Max Crosby because I'm fucking sensitive for the players I like. But I love Mike Mayock too. And he's got a point that defense needs to get scarier,
Starting point is 00:08:20 but he said, like, we don't have anybody that scares anybody on defense right now. And so if I'm in that defensive room, I'm like, damn, I got to pick my, I got to pick my production up. And they've made no bones about the fact they need a game-changing pass rusher. And that'll pair really nicely with Max because what you have there is a situation where you get a guy who is going to rush with more power with more of a litany of like power inside, you know, long-arm guy pushing the pocket. high motor and I mean that high motor I'm just not like throwing that that you know I'm not using that pejoratively about Max Crosby I that's the rusher you pair with the pure speed jump chop club guy the guy that you know can really bend the edge real
Starting point is 00:09:15 poppy get off dude like a guy that just jolts off the screen on third down not a powerful cat, not a guy that you're going to depend on to blow plays up in the run game or you might worry about him at the point of attack but pairing him with Max Crosby is really nice from a pass rush standpoint.
Starting point is 00:09:39 And, you know, I like Mo Hurst, man. So they got to fix that defense. Nice little piece. Mina Kimes wasn't so high on him when she was on the pod. She just didn't sound as high on him as I am as a rusher. I mean like, listen,
Starting point is 00:09:54 run game is the run game, but to get where he's gotten at this point in his career with sack numbers, go check them out. He's been very, very consistently, very good as a rusher. And it is hard to be in two systems in one year, two locations in one year. Really in one calendar year, he played for three teams. He's about to play for four teams in, God, read, do the math. I mean, like a year and a half, two years, you know, calendar. because he was in Jacksonville, then Minnesota, and in the middle of the year, he heads to Baltimore, and now he's going to be in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:10:34 That's crazy. Four teams in two years. Four teams in two years. Now, that's a lot for a good player, is all I'm saying. Like, you know, plenty of guys are on four teams in a year, like journeyman type guys, but for a premier pass rusher in the NFL, four teams in two years, I'm not holding that against him.
Starting point is 00:10:56 I'm just saying that's a lot of teams. It's been a wild ride for him. So we'll see. Raiders making moves. All right. So here's where you're going to read the... Leonard Floyd just got four years, $64 million to the Rams.
Starting point is 00:11:15 He's staying with the Rams. Okay. And Nelson Aguilar, two years, $26 million to go to the Pats. Whoa! No, Nelly! That's great. That's great.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Nelly the Pats. I love that. How about the Pats, man? How about them? Reed, how much money do they spend today? So Bill Belichick spending in free agency, the prior 10 years, nearly 360 million, the first about five hours of 2021,
Starting point is 00:11:53 172 million on the heels of the Nelson Aguilor acquisition. Oh my goodness, what a day. They also pick up Jalen Mills, Matthew Judon, Johnny Smith. What do you think of Bill's cannonball splash into free agency? I didn't think of him as a cannonball guy, man. He's the kind of guy that just walks in the pool with a long-sleeve white shirt on. but he just splashed everybody sitting by the pool
Starting point is 00:12:25 uh yeah people said bill's losing his touch I think Bill got a stimmy check read I think you got a stimmy check for I think got a stimmy check for every head coach he's made his son throughout his career I think he claimed all of them and I don't know do the math but he's spending it
Starting point is 00:12:44 and people that are spending money like this uh me and John were talking about this uh There's really only a couple reasons that you spend money like this. One, you're ducking alimony. So you want to just offload all the assets because you're vindictive. Or two, because you don't have Tom Brady anymore and you're vindictive. So like one or the other.
Starting point is 00:13:10 And Bill's not ducking alimony. So this is pretty fun. This is, I like this bill. This is my favorite bill. of all the bills, and I played for a bill that I liked very much, this is my favorite bill. But you know, like the CAM deal, you know, at first, it was funny. We were all sitting there like, I don't know, what the fuck is this guy doing?
Starting point is 00:13:40 I mean, some people were like, yes, because people have been critical of Cam Newton, and I have to justify a $14 million contract online. Nobody's saying the guy sucks, man. I mean, like a lot of people are saying the guy sucks. I'm not saying the guy sucks at all. I think he's a tremendous asset to a team. I have concerns about his health. But obviously they wanted him back.
Starting point is 00:14:06 $14 million isn't actually what he's going to make. He's going to make like five or six up to 14, with a lot of very unrealistic incentives and that sort of thing. But Cam knows what he's getting into. And Cam, I think for a few reasons, this speaks to how much he respects Bill. And I think this also speaks to how much Bill respects him. He's going to help that football team in some way,
Starting point is 00:14:33 even if he's not the starter. I think immediately you saw $14 million and you're like, oh, he's the starter. That's the whole lesson. Don't look at that number. look at like the guarantees and that sort of thing. And again, as I just outlined, it's either five or six million. You know, it's very unlikely he's going to be in double digits.
Starting point is 00:14:51 From an earning perspective, I think Cam was wise to go with his gut and avoid having to chance free agency and like being out there. And not really knowing what his value is. like in New England his value is high as a person and as a member of that team. You know, out there in the market, his value is just how you played football last year. And it wasn't very good, right? But I think the Patriots have knowledge of where his health is. I think they also have knowledge of what kind of guy he is, how competitive he was. He busts his ass down the stretch last year with nothing on the line.
Starting point is 00:15:39 I talked about this last year. I just, I really admired how he conducted himself there. I think Bill appreciates that. And he's a guy. As soon as he got that deal the other day, dudes on the team were like, hooray, we love this guy. Fans are like rolling their eyes and groaning in New England
Starting point is 00:16:00 because they see 14 million. They're like, oh, yeah, well, fuck, we're stuck with camp. Maybe you are. Maybe it's going to be a Cam Stidham thing again. Maybe. But if you know the numbers, you know that they're not married to him like that. They're married to him being on the team in 2021
Starting point is 00:16:21 and helping somehow. And he can help a lot of different ways. But people were looking at Bill like, oh, he's slipping. Then Trent Brown. Then you got Jonu. Oh, we don't have any tight ends. Oh, here's a tight end.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Matt Judon. Oh, we don't pay pass rushers. Yeah, we just paid a pass rusher. Jalen Mills. Oh my God, my team doesn't have any swag. Bill doesn't like swag. Well, I got a guy with green hair now. Okay?
Starting point is 00:16:52 Got a fucking guy with green hair. And Devon Godshock, who's a really good player. And they needed help in the middle. Good run stopper. and not to mention they get chung and hightower back so you know the whole calling ambulance but not for me guy that's bill i'm telling you guys writing him off don't write bill off i've been saying read if i've been consistent on the bill thing you have thank you very consistent thank you i have never once wavered on the fact that this fucking guy will be back you can't kill him you can't kill him
Starting point is 00:17:28 I think he loves this. He's Bain. Bain likes darkness, right? That's his whole thing. You merely adopted the darkness. I was born into it. Right? That's the quote. Yeah, that's that iconic Bain quote.
Starting point is 00:17:46 And this is very Belichick right now. So you mentioned earlier, 360 million you said in the last 10 years, 146 million just before we recorded this pod. and then Nelson Aguilar who I don't think we've added the figures 172 172 um so Rosenhouse making bank you know Johnu Jalen Devon Trent uh plus he has Aaron Jones too that that you know man it's good to be an agent and first off an observation here two guys from like the Patriots tree Brable Flores
Starting point is 00:18:22 and not to mention Nelson who you just inform me of is a Patriots guy competitively. Total Patriots guy. And all day earlier today, I was like, oh, well, there'll be, here comes a wide receiver at some point. Man, they are, oh, buddy. They are tooling up, dude. Second, all these signings, they make sense.
Starting point is 00:18:47 So I'll be interested to hear what he does with Jalen, for sure. Great tackler. They'll love that about him. Very competitive. total competitor, tough, can play multiple positions, crowded room.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I don't know how that's going to work, how they want to use him. Jonu, I know exactly how they're going to use him. He seems like a good Patriots fit. He's a perfect fit for them. And it's important for a QB who's struggling. So Trent Brown is back.
Starting point is 00:19:16 You lost Marcus Cannon and maybe they see number 61 going south a little bit. they get younger there and they get the best out of Trent that's a big one because Trent hasn't been the same guy everywhere and so you know knowing that if if he was engaged and was excited to come to work and play his best football there you know chances are even with the money now he's going to go back there and play the same way because bill's not Bill's not really and Trent's been there so he knows
Starting point is 00:19:51 is Bill's not okay with you just like mailing it in up there so I think it'll get the best out of Trent I mentioned Godshaw interior presence another wide receiver at some point maybe in the draft I don't know but they are retooling
Starting point is 00:20:08 and they're about to be really tough a tough football team maybe even really good maybe even really good and it all hinges on the quarterback but I'm going to tell you this much. I am rooting for the Patriots this year. They are doing something exciting.
Starting point is 00:20:23 They're going to be exciting to watch. I don't know if they're going to go 13 and 3. I don't know if they go 10 and 6, but they are going to be fun to watch. Grongkowski re-signs with the Buccaneers one year, 10 million. Good for him, man. You know, it's like, this is like sometimes I have a dream that I'm playing again or like I come back and play.
Starting point is 00:20:47 And then you wake up. But Gronk just stayed in the dream. You just stayed there. Like, Gronk, it's time to go. He's like, no, I'm going to run it back again and make $10 million more dollars. Good for him, dude. Good for him. Ronald Darby also got three years, $30 million from the Broncos.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Oh, Darby. I can just see Darby breathing hard as shit in the altitude up there. For your Denver Broncos, Reed. I could see Darby. I can just see Darby hands on his knees just gasping for air, dude. The first time he breathed that air up there. I can't wait. I need to get Ronald Darby's number back.
Starting point is 00:21:32 I had it. I'm going to text him right now. Enjoy the fucking altitude, buddy. Congratulations. Love Darby, dude. Cool dude. Carl Lawson signs with the Jets for three years, $45 million. Oh, that's great.
Starting point is 00:21:47 great. That's great. Joe's got good taste in rushers because I really like Carl Lawson. I think he's versatile. Bud Dupree gets a multi-year deal from the Tennessee Titans, reportedly worth $16.5 million a year. I'm happy for Bud Dupree, man. I am happy for Bud Dupree. Getting that kind of money off an ACL. Good for him, man. James Winston gets a one-year deal from Orleans Saints worth up to 12 million. There's hope. I don't think James is going back for another year if he's the backup again.
Starting point is 00:22:29 I don't think because you're talking about there's still a couple teams that need quarterbacks. Carolina could be in the market for one. You know what? He might say I'll take the money and compete because he might see there be being more openings next year.
Starting point is 00:22:48 At this point, like maybe the musical chairs factor is getting a little tight for him. I mean, like the draft coming up, a few teams that need quarterbacks are going to, you know, fill those voids there. And does this mean he's going to start? I don't know. Drew Breez announced his retirement on Sunday, 15 years to the day he signed with New Orleans, where he spent 15 years of his 20-year career. he retires as the NFL's all-time career leader in pass yards, completions, and completion percentage, and he's second all-time and touchdown passes.
Starting point is 00:23:26 So what do you think of when you think of Drew Brees? I think about a guy who maximizes talent. I do. I think about a guy who got every last drop out of it, and that's a really hard thing to do in the NFL because I would imagine, and I'm sure you only see the tip of the iceberg. with everybody, but I'm sure in quiet moments, every player has some regrets. I think everybody's so full of shit when they say, I have no regrets or I never had a weak moment or I never shorted at any juncture. Like I've, yes, there are things that if I could have done them over,
Starting point is 00:24:03 I might have done a couple things better. I also fucking worked my ass off and I'm proud of myself. like damn near killed myself playing the game and that's how everybody feels when they walk away but drew breeze honestly probably doesn't have a lot of moments where he's like sitting there and he's like i wonder if that one night i shouldn't have gone out drinking i should have trained the next day that just that's not drew breeze i really do believe that drew maximized his talent also he was legitimately not that talented like some guys who are superstars you know or had hall of fame careers they like to overplay how much of an underdog they were because they weren't drafted high or something.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Like, you had incredible talent. People just didn't see it in you. Drew Breeze is not like an incredibly talented guy. And it's interesting. He kind of occupied a niche. Chronologically, you look at quarterbacks in the NFL. I was talking to John about this. A couple years before he comes in the league,
Starting point is 00:25:07 he's probably too short, right? At some point. And then you fast forward enough and you're going to hit a point where if he was born 10 years later, he's probably too slow. Like the game is going to pass quarterbacks who can't run at least 4-6 by.
Starting point is 00:25:25 It is, right? At some point, it might not be while we're here. I don't know how stubborn the lawn deers of the world are. There's so few of them. There's so few quarterbacks who just sit in the pocket. So he occupied like it was a perfect spot for him.
Starting point is 00:25:43 And very unlikely for him to have the career he had because I was listening to Mike Sandoz pod who we had on the other day. The NFL GM pod, I think it's called. He had somebody on there who was talking about it was 70-30 that he was done after that shoulder injury in San Diego. 70-30 that he was done. Historic free agency hall is the way I think about it. It's unbelievable that in the NFL
Starting point is 00:26:08 somebody you can get in free agency is going to spend 15 years on your team and deliver you a Super Bowl at the most important position how do you ever let somebody like that out of the building well because his shoulder exploded so it's wild to me that he had the career he had it's almost like two careers 15 years in new Orleans synonymous with that city and two careers as i just mentioned in one very small body dude you know i sacked him a few times and i've said this before he was like Jack in the Mailman. And I mean that, like, again, I'm trying to make the point that he doesn't have,
Starting point is 00:26:44 like, tremendous talent or size. And that was fun. So, and on top of that, there was an injury he wasn't supposed to play with. And when I think about Katrina and I think about the Saints and I think about, like, that whole time period, I think about Steve Gleason.
Starting point is 00:27:03 I think about Steve Gleason first. But I also think about, shout up Steve. love you dude i also think about drew breeze that's like the second guy i think of and he'd probably tell you the same thing but like this is how important that association is when you think about the saints like people my age think about the saints a huge part of the fabric of that franchise
Starting point is 00:27:27 and their legacy is the way they emerged from katrina and like how that that team's success was so therapeutic for that city I can't think of either without the other as a sports fan. So when you think about Drew Brees being the guy, the catalyst, and it happened because he got hurt. And maybe they never would have let him see the field in San Diego. Kind of wild. But again, a max-out guy who played his way into the top 10 all-time at a position
Starting point is 00:28:03 that's like the mascot of American sports. literally think about American sports. You think about football. That's it. You know, they say baseball, America's pastime, no offense to baseball, which I'm a huge fan of.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I'm going to pick a team soon. But it's more of a past time than a now time. You know, football's an outtime sport. I think we just made something up. Read. Let me see your face, dude. Are you...
Starting point is 00:28:40 I can't because you got a fucking mask on. You're still masked up. You can't tell how stupid you think that tagline is. Fuck it. Sell the merch. I just... Yeah, football. He's one of the top 10 all time
Starting point is 00:28:55 and he did it in that little mailman body, dude. It's amazing. And where do I put him back half top 10? So closer to 5 than to 10? I would think, but maybe not. I don't know. And also the way I just described it, when I think about it, it only leaves like one number, right?
Starting point is 00:29:15 Sevens in the middle, six is closer to five, back half the top 10. So I just made him six. And I'm not doing the rankings thing today. That's an unofficial designation there. Fuck Rankin's, the guy just retired. That's like what we do to athletes and I'm doing it. And I think working against his legacy
Starting point is 00:29:32 might be a little bit the marriage to Peyton, Sean Payton, they existed apart from each other, and it wasn't the same for either of them, so they helped each other immensely, but Sean's an offensive genius. And I think he's gonna do really well, even after Drew Brees. And so there will always be that factor of,
Starting point is 00:29:54 I don't know how good he is, maybe without Sean Payton, he's still gonna be one of the best of all time, but what does that do? And I don't think that takes anything away from it where I said. People could make that case though, and you think about his contemporaries, Aaron Rogers, you actually think about it, Aaron Rogers was getting held back. Now he's getting proved out to possibly have been held back in Green Bay.
Starting point is 00:30:17 But you know, Aaron Rogers doesn't need anybody. He's proved that at the very least he doesn't need anybody. And at the most, he probably was getting held back on different levels in Green Bay, to a degree for a lot of his career. Because here he is playing his best football, like a robot. Brady won somewhere else so he kind of solidified that Belichick's a defensive coach so it's not the same
Starting point is 00:30:41 as when you think about Brady and Belichick it's a marriage and you know in the public eye it's an incredible marriage on like a team building and a culture building and like this is the way we do things in a leadership level but football is also one with X's and O's and there's way more of a schematic marriage between
Starting point is 00:30:58 Sean Payton and and Drew Brees so I mean not that Tom and build don't sit there and draw plays and concepts together because the buck stops with Bill, but Bill's a defensive guy first. And Philip Rivers is just Philip Rivers.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Big Ben, not a scheme guy. Peyton's transcendent. You know, I don't even want to talk about Eli in this, but, you know, Eli won two Super Bowls. And I've made the case before that he could be a Hall of Famer. All these guys were electric in different ways. There's one guy, Drew, who had a coach, who you're going to associate with,
Starting point is 00:31:35 with him the most, like the continuity of being together. And the one thing that he very thankfully has, a Super Bowl, he won it and he played at a really high level, but I damn near forgot about it because the irony is I think about the onside kick. And it was so long ago. Drew Breeze was not a young guy, he wasn't a rookie when it happened,
Starting point is 00:31:57 but you probably thought, oh, they'll be back, they'll be back, and they'll be back, and they'll be back, and they never like, conquered that thing in the second part of his tenure in New Orleans. So that's something that I'm sure was tough for him to walk away after that. At the very least, he broke his retirement with his kids, really cute video. The third son said, like, finally dad's retiring.
Starting point is 00:32:25 And I could feel that like, finally. He was definitely like, all right, dad, come home, man. And it was all class. It was all Drew Brees. Sunday afternoon, day before free agency. And I think you can glean a lot about a guy from how he retires. Like the style he retires, the timing,
Starting point is 00:32:43 that sort of thing. And it was very true to form for him. I think it's been a long couple years for Drew Brees. And there was the bad call, right? That was just crushing because that year I think they really could have won the Super Bowl. And I know Drew would never say that. I think they could have won the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Even though I hated it when they said that to us, could have beat you guys in the NFC championship game. I'm making a case just like revisionist history as a player who was not on either of those teams. I think New Orleans would have stood a chance to win that Super Bowl. That probably weighed heavily. There was the Minnesota miracle the year before that.
Starting point is 00:33:22 I mean, and then you lose to Kirk Cousins. I mean, I'm not saying you, like Drew lost him alone, but you as a team, you lose to Kirk Cousins in the playoffs, That's tough, man. There was what he said last summer, which he stepped in it. And I don't think he was as thoughtful as he could have been at all. And he paid for it. He paid for it.
Starting point is 00:33:47 He paid the price for it. I don't believe in canceling people, you know, depending on what you do. But that's not something I'm going to cancel. He paid for it. And I think he's probably paid his dudes from, you know, behind closed doors. But it was a great lesson for a lot of people, I think, at home. home too. There were last year's relative struggles, like, and including that the injury that probably makes you question shit. Like, that's the type of injury, all those broken ribs,
Starting point is 00:34:12 like internal organs, like stuff like that, that, there's some injuries in the NFL that you're just like, what am I doing, dude? I'm in my 40s? Like, with motorcycle accident injuries? Like, I was a, a fucking rodeo guy? Yeah, dude. It's, it's. It's been a long couple years for him. So the world was willing him to do it. Like Twitter, obviously, because they got, Lord, they're hard on people. But the world was willing to do it, and this is the right time. And the right time is the hardest thing to pinpoint in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:34:49 So you got a timely and very understated announcement, which stood out to me. Free agency buried it. It wasn't done dramatically. He had interviews on Zoom. He's on, like, GMA, but he's on Zoom. His last season, again, played in an empty stadium. You know, at Super Bowl feels again like miles in the rearview. So the second big attempt at summiting the mountain was, you know, like in the win-loss column, ultimately for Drew Breeze, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:35:22 And I'm assuming because he's so hard on himself, I'm not Drew Breeze, but I know I'm pretty fucking hard on myself. I think for Drew, he probably looks at that second act as maybe a failure because he didn't reach the ultimate goal a second time. You know, my dad told me when they won in 1984, 1983, and they beat the brakes off the then redskins. And Marcus Allen had his famous cutback run and all that stuff. You know, like he's thinking, this is how it's going to be every year. And Drew Breeze wasn't a rookie when he won his first Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:35:54 but, you know, he had seen some shit, but also it would have been fair to assume that, like, we'll be back because I'm driving this bus. I'm one of the best on the planet. I'm one of the hardest workers in the game, and we've got everything it takes. Like, we'll be back. But you had a lot of nine and sevens.
Starting point is 00:36:13 You missed the playoff some, and the deep runs ended tragically, and that's football, man. It's like, it's just football. You know, if the football gods wrote it up, the way we talk about, it'd be something the football guys were right up. Drew Breeze would have retired more ceremoniously.
Starting point is 00:36:32 But that's football. That's football. So it might have been a swing and a miss in his head. I don't know. You'd have to ask him, but he kept swinging. He always kept swinging. And, you know, we always gave Philip Rivers the you can't kill this guy kind of legendary status. We say that about Philip Rivers, the ACL, the attitude, the tenacity.
Starting point is 00:36:55 It was certainly more visible with him, his charisma. but Drew had a different kind of shit to him. Like Drew had a more like, same toughness, same charisma, same work ethic, all that. Just more corporately packaged and neatly packaged. And Phil was like, his uniform was probably sloppy and he wouldn't care.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Like you have grass all over himself. Like, like Drew Breeze always looked like he walked out of a commercial set. Like perfect eye black. You know, like he's just, he's the logo, dude. Like he's, um, but don't mistake that for a guy who's not incredibly like,
Starting point is 00:37:27 tough and rough around the edges in a football sense because he pursued greatness with an incredible tenacity um and this you know you talk about one of the reasons i respect him so much because he kept getting up like even in games where we peppered him he kept getting up but this wasn't the time to get up you know like this just wasn't and when i ran into him at steve gleason's uh ceremony in dc and this is one of the few conversations i've ever had with him off the field so i'm not trying to act like I'm cool with Drew Breeze. But I respect Drew Breeze tremendously as a player, and he's been incredibly gracious when I've come across him.
Starting point is 00:38:07 He told me that he wanted to leave before it was time. And all offseason, I felt like thinking back to that conversation, as casual as it was, I don't know why he'd make that up. It didn't feel like he was going to follow his own advice for a little bit here. And that would be his right, because it's so easy to succumb to your instinct as a competitor. But it turns out he did the hardest thing he'll probably ever have to do as a player, which is walk away on time.
Starting point is 00:38:40 And I think he should be as proud of that as he is of any of his accomplishments. I mean that because, you know, it takes a lot to just be like, yeah, it's time, you know. And he's had one of those careers where you do have to consider. consider how you leave the game. You know, it's, it's a conversation. And on he goes to NBC and he's gonna make even more money in the booth. I mean, like, sticking a landing like that
Starting point is 00:39:13 is literally like parachuting and landing in like a Corvette. But your parachute doesn't even, I mean, it's unlikely. It's very unlikely for you to nail everything I just talked about with Drew, all the ups and downs, he left at the exact right time. I don't think he should regret playing last year. Some people overstate that.
Starting point is 00:39:37 I think he played well. I think he's just one of the greatest of all time. So he held him to a high standard. He's 40-something years old. And he left at the right time, though, ultimately. So Bravo, Drew, like, hell of a competitor. Now, good luck surviving the night. time NFL Twitter onslaught.
Starting point is 00:40:03 You think the ribs hurt, dude? Wait till you're calling a game and you go name search yourself. Just don't do that. One piece of advice, dude. Don't name search when you do what you're going to do next. Or you could be great at it, but I just say that because even people that are great at it, people shit on them. It's just a tough spot.
Starting point is 00:40:26 I'm thinking to Joe Buck. Joe Buck is awesome. Speaking of somebody who's awesome, let's get the stand for Steve. While you were recording that, Kendrick Bourne signed with the Patriots three years, 22 and a half. Sit here on the fucking couch.
Starting point is 00:40:44 I'm calling my agent. Man, I'm going to tell you what. Last thing about the Saints, bro, this is the only time of my career that I have ever, like, straight up been a hater, like financially. Never.
Starting point is 00:40:58 I never watched anybody's pockets. I think it's lame. I think too many dudes do it. Some of your favorite players do it. I've heard them in locker rooms sitting there, you know, oh, that guy makes too much money, this, that, and the third. Like, you would never say that publicly. But I am going to do it this one time when I thought for a hiccup,
Starting point is 00:41:16 and I should have just stuck to the script when reading a ticker thing around the first day of free agency, Taysam Hill signed for, 140 million, I was mad at football. And I think he's a great football player. I think he is a tremendous football player. And I am complimenting him right now. I just thought 140 was a lot for a guy that I'm not sure exactly how to use all the time.
Starting point is 00:41:48 And I started to get mad for five minutes. I was mad. I was a hater. The fucking hater. Reed, you don't know me to be a hater. No, no, you're pretty even keeled. Four years, 140 million. That's 35 million a year.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Yeah, but then go read the, it's like you got to read the fine print. Right, and then you find out all years are voidable. Yes. And it was really just a mechanism to create seven and a half million in cap space for the Saints this year. It was a good TED talk right there. Thank you for explaining that because Lord knows I couldn't. And now for Stanford Steve. Stanford Steve in the building.
Starting point is 00:42:28 What up, dude? I miss you. Man, I miss you. Can we have another football season without the football so we could just talk every day? Because that was exhausting, like, all the football this year. But it was cool seeing you a lot. Well, it's, it's, it's, you know, you get in a routine and football this season actually, you know, felt like we were doing the Sundays. We were doing the Fridays.
Starting point is 00:42:51 And it was just like, all right? I know I got this many days until I got to have stuff ready for Chris. Like it was, it was good to have a. routine. I think it helps us through the season knowing there was so much uncertainty in the sport. And now we go to basketball and it feels good because obviously last year we were right here and this is where it got halted and everybody loves the tournament. And I think the bracket just looking at it gives us hope, man. Like it feels like there's some normalcy going back. The Big Ten had their tournament in Indy. They allowed fans in the Illinois players, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:28 post game doing interviews and hearing the crowd chanting their names and doing their schools chanting the background really, really, really felt good to me. Yeah, it's, if I think about as a sports fan, the most, the scariest, most harrowing time. It was just this time last year. It was like, you know, not just the uncertainty of the entire calendar, but we just lost the best thing on the docket. The best thing on the docket. It was the first thing COVID knocked out. And we're back. And this is huge, huge for the NCAA. So we'll talk about that in a second. How about the conference championship stuff this weekend?
Starting point is 00:44:03 Did you have fun? How would you rate the drama? How would you rate the execution of this weekend? I'm not the hot take guy, Chris. I know I'm in the minority here. Championship week is my favorite week of college basketball. I like it more than this weekend. I think there's more to play for.
Starting point is 00:44:20 I think these teams are sick and tired, especially this year where they're only playing conference conference games, like teams wanted to get after each other. And you know, you see a team, you know, I know everybody's bringing them up, but Georgetown. Georgetown's three and eight and they go on a huge COVID break in the middle of the year. Like they didn't have to come back and play. And they come back and they come out and they get two huge, their two best wins of the year against Providence and Creighton.
Starting point is 00:44:47 And they get some momentum going. And then you obviously see what they do in New York City this week. The big 10, you had the, you know, the top teams. you know, advancing there all the way through. The Pact 12 is not great. The ACC is as bad as I've ever seen it in my life. We ruined it. This is bad.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Virginia ruined it. We took all the power from UNC and Duke and now the things in shambles. And now the only things we have to worry about in the ACC are like Florida State or COVID. COVID is the only thing that can knock us out of the conference tournament. That's a good point. Yeah. And now we're that close to losing to Syracuse.
Starting point is 00:45:22 We were, but we've been that close to losing to everybody. dude like when you play at the pace we play with the efficiency rather that we play any team is gonna have a chance to get hot you know like that sort of thing i and all all week i've been hearing about oh i don't know man i'm whispering it but i'm thinking oh i'm thinking oh i'm thinking oh what a hot fucking take we're not practicing all week and we have to pass more tests and i'm sure everybody remembers you mbc it's not a hot take either bet it take take them I'll give you plus $2.90 odds. Or shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Get out of my mentions. I can't stand that. I can't stand that. Virginia rant over. Good. You're not worried, though? I am a little bit worried. No, I'm not like, are your head coach?
Starting point is 00:46:11 What if he takes Indiana job before you guys play? Well, that's not going to happen. I would. How do you know? Because I'm not going to let him leave Charlottesville. He's not going to Indiana. Who is getting hired at Indiana? There's one name to me.
Starting point is 00:46:25 if I'm Indiana, I'm flying a plane. Well, now actually, they're in Indianapolis, and I think they're actually playing at Assembly Hall. But when the tournament's over, I'm flying the plane to Lubbock, Texas, and I'm not leaving until Texas Tech head coach Chris Beard gets on the plane. I think he's the best guy, best coach in the sport.
Starting point is 00:46:45 It would be, I mean, he's a Bobby Knight disciple. It's really clear to me. I know people are throwing around Scott Drew a Baylor, up a beard to me is my preference. And I mean, nothing against Baylor. I'm picking Baylor to win the national championship. So I obviously like what Scott Drew does. But Chris Beard is the guy to me.
Starting point is 00:47:10 It's funny. They haven't been able to get their guy, it seems like. It is. We had Titus and Tate on the other day. And those guys who know more about college basketball, the landscape nationally tell me that it's just become like a bit where Indiana just, they throw a bunch of names out there and then they settle every time around now. That's a great way of putting it.
Starting point is 00:47:30 It's still a blue blood. I know everybody wants to know who the blue bloods are. It's blue blood adjacent now, dude. You know, but it's nowhere near, nowhere near what it was when I was young, Chris. Like teams, I remember like every Saturday afternoon or Sunday afternoon, whenever, you know, Indiana, nobody, nobody went to assembly hall in one. No one. It was just something to see. I still remember Key Smart making the shout against Syracuse. I know Q's fans don't want me to bring that up. But like Bobby Knight, like that whole thing was like nothing else in the country. And it's instilled there. We always, you know, we obviously know you don't like the movie Hoosiers, but there is a passion for high school hoops. Yeah, they all play in the driveway and they have like those crates, those crates as they're rim. right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:24 They all do. They probably make their own balls and stuff out there. And I feel like that's every kid in Indiana plays basketball that way in the driveway. For sure. He's out there and it's like freezing. He's got hypothermia playing, throwing a ball through a fucking basket. What do they even use those baskets for before they cut the bottoms out of them and make Indiana baskets out of the milk? Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:48:46 People still drink milk like that? In Indiana they do. I don't think like that. I think in Indiana. I think in Indiana they do. That's why they have so many of those crates around. I thought milk was out. All right.
Starting point is 00:48:58 So with the starting times, I know you like conference championship weekend. Yep. And I believe you're not a hot take artist, but you got to admit, this is like a step up with the start times now moving a day later. It's like one of the very few no-brainer things that leagues actually do. I don't think people are ready for it, Chris. I don't think the majority of people know. I'm really worried for people that they go that they've already put in off for Thursday of work that they've done for 20 years and they turn on their TV at noon on Thursday and there's no games. Like a lifetime movie.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Now, we do have the four playing games, which I like that. We don't think of wait, spend two days watching the playing games. But yeah, man, Friday, Saturday, buckle up. And then the rollover, I kind of like it. Mondays are always the worst thing's, worst day of the week to me. but it actually gives me something to look forward to. And when you look at the slate, there are some names and there's some teams
Starting point is 00:49:56 and there's some matchups. That would be an absolute awesome second round game. I'm just thinking about Texas Tech possibly play in Arkansas and an old Southwest Conference matchup. That would be awesome. Oregon possibly playing Iowa. Drake, Kentucky, or Drake in Kansas, possibly in a big Midwest thing.
Starting point is 00:50:19 speaking of your love for Indiana. The Zags get in Oklahoma, Rutgers in Houston, Syracuse, West Virginia, an old Big East game. It is, I think they've done an incredible job of this bracket this year. And I'm always a complainer about the seating. And I still think there are some problems with some of the seating. But this is really, like going through it last night when I got home from work after, you know, Scott's show, it was, I was puzzled. Usually it just, fire right through, all right. You know, all right, good, Jagged at the final four, this, that. This year there was a lot of, I still have some blank spaces because I'm not sure yet.
Starting point is 00:50:59 So it's, it is, it's time to dive in for sure. How do you, how do you, I know people that, let's, that fill out their final four first. Oh, no, no. Backwards. You know what? That's terrible. I've done that before, so I can't, I can't down people. This year, it's going to be a mass.
Starting point is 00:51:19 or actually is going to be quite the opposite because this is the year I have not watched a ton of regular season college basketball. I've caught up on it and I watch Virginia but I just don't have the bandwidth to do it all. So we'll see. I mean, this is probably the year I actually win my bracket. You know, the old thing where you let
Starting point is 00:51:35 your lovely wife in the bracket and she smokes everybody because she doesn't watch. That's kind of what I'm, that's the strategy I'm employing this year. So before we get into the bracket, before we get into the ones, who got snub because I know you said they've done a pretty good job with it. Who got seated too low?
Starting point is 00:51:54 Who should be in? Who's not? Listen. We're now up to 68 teams, okay? We got an extra bid this year because there's no Ivy League. Like, you've got to be really, really crazy to complain about not getting in at large. And I know Louisville is a former national champion. I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Did they get credit for that national championship they won with the team? I don't know, but they haven't won one since Virginia's one one. And Patino's back. He is. Scary, scary for Big Cat. But like Louisville, former champion, playing in the ACC, I talked to, you know, before I said this is the worst I've ever seen the ACC. We look at their resume. They're not a lot there.
Starting point is 00:52:40 I mean, they beat, I think their top wins were two wins against Duke who didn't even make the tournament. They won 13 games, dude. They can't complain. There were a lot of holes in there. So I'm actually fine with the bubble. And like I said, if you can't get in the tournament nowadays, man, like you got a lot of balls complaining about not getting in. I think BYU is severely overseeded.
Starting point is 00:53:03 BYU, I feel like, is always playing in a 6-11. I don't know why I feel that way, but I feel like they're always in a 6-11. I'm not a buyer of BYU. Okay, you're not buying BYU. They had 53 points against Gonzaga. I understand it at a halftime of the conference title game, and then they still lost by double-ditch. So the first, so is the winner of the Michigan State UCLA game, the first four team that's going to win in the first round?
Starting point is 00:53:23 Because there seems like lately there's usually been one, I think, since the inception, it's been almost every year. Who's headed to the second round? I mean, go back to VCU, made the final four when they did it. So, yeah, I mean, it feels kind of public, but like Michigan State is all against Mick Cronin in the playing game. like God bless whoever has to official that game because those referees ears are going to be bleeding the whole game. I think Tennessee is overseeded. I'm not a buy. They have not played well down the stretch here.
Starting point is 00:54:01 That could be a nice 12-5 for you if you're a believer in the conference of champions in Oregon State. Villanova, toughest team to seed in the whole tournament, knowing they lost Colin Gillespie. We're not sure what they are. I don't think they know what they are without him. It's just an awful, awful injury for a kid who's been a program kid and played four years there. Really tough to see just knowing in J. Wright's system, he's the guy. You saw them win national championships with Brunson and guys like that. Like Gillespie's that guy.
Starting point is 00:54:35 He handles the ball the most. And now they go to a freshman who's a former point guard in Archie Diocono, who's playing with the Bulls now. I look at LSU is a dangerous. LSU St. Bonaventure is a 8-9 game. That's fantastic because of the contrast of styles. Bonaventure has some older guys. LSU plays a style. I watched them.
Starting point is 00:54:58 I mean, they played an all-time game in a loss yesterday to Alabama and the SEC title game. And I don't, it's amazing to me how LSU continues to get teams to play that frantic style they play. Like, dudes are just pulling, like a couple of those. is they'll come over half court and just pull. And it's like, and all of a sudden they have the offensive rebound. It's like their guys know that they're going to have horrible shot selection.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Right. And the other teams, like you can't prepare for it. So that's a fascinating matchup. What's more competitive this year, 2020, 2020, 2021, BAMA LSU football or Bama LSU basketball? There's an argument to be made that those two teams are more relevant combined this year in hoops than the two teams in the fall. LSU for sure.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Yeah, right? I mean, I'm telling you that, if that game yesterday at SEC championship game, I mean, just the haymakers that were thrown. And what you got to, these teams, you know, Alabama is a team who, you know, they get penalized in game films if they take long twos. Their coach is, you know, a big math guy, former teacher slash coach at the high school level, NATO, it's awesome job. They fire threes and want to roll.
Starting point is 00:56:11 They run. They run, right? Are they the most fun team in the SEC? Or is it LSU to you? I think Arkansas is. Yeah. I think Arkansas plays a pace because Arkansas concentrates more on the defensive end to me. Yeah. They can with ball pressure.
Starting point is 00:56:28 They have the longer size guys. LSU just wants to get you up and down and take as many shots as possible. Bama is just going to play that, try and abuse you from the three point line. But Arkansas, when you go back and look at this, they play Colgate, okay? This Colgate, you know, there's this thing in net ranking for all the teams that the committee used that they were supposed to use it. Well, Colgate was nine in the net, in the country.
Starting point is 00:56:54 They didn't play a game outside of their conference. I think they played Navy like five times. So, like, everybody wants, you know, the upsets. I'm looking at as a blowout because Colgate hasn't seen anything like Arkansas brings to the table. So I know it's built on upsets. I look at that game as a possible thing that Arkansas can really show Colgate some things that they haven't seen. So go ahead and hammer Arkansas. That's, I mean, it's nine, I think nine, nine and a half.
Starting point is 00:57:27 I like that. I like that. I think Arkansas wins that game. You gave me a couple sleepers in college football this fall that I was like, how the fuck do you have time to watch these teams, Steve? It was like Maine or something. You were like, I'm just telling you this team here that's playing Liberty, this weekend has not scored all season.
Starting point is 00:57:43 I don't know who it was. That was UMass. It was UMass. It was one of those schools up there. But I was like, all right. And you were dead on right. I was like, how are you watching UMass? But you've been watching Colgate as well.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Make my kids go to bed real early and I stay up late. That's what I do, Chris. You're genius. All right. So the number ones. Yep. You mentioned Baylor. The cat's out of the bag.
Starting point is 00:58:06 That's who Stanford Steve has winning his bracket. Gonzaga is probably I always feel like Gonzaga as a casual college basketball fan who doesn't watch a lot of their conference and who doesn't watch them until March I guess the question is is this actually
Starting point is 00:58:22 the Mark Few team that's better than the rest and is actually going to show up and impress in March yes I believe so they got a kid Chris Jalen Suggs now everybody's going to talk about Kayle Coneyham for Oklahoma State who are
Starting point is 00:58:38 draft guys have as a number one pick in the draft his freshman. But Jalen Suggs is a kid who is actually a division one prospect as a quarterback. Now he's the point guard for Gonzaga. And when asked, I like Suggs better than Cunningham and I can't stand to be this guy because he has the football mentality. He is an absolute, I mean, just everything you want in a point guard. They're in a tight game and Few said they needed it in the West Coast Conference title game. They were down a couple, and Suggs came down and hit two threes and one dunk. Like go back and watch his high school football highlight film. And you're like he could have played major D1 football as a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:59:23 There's no doubt in my mind. And that athleticism and that tenacity and that get after it, you know, football guys are tougher and basketball guys. He has that. So this team to me is different. And hockey. Because of him. Yeah, we're not going to go there.
Starting point is 00:59:38 What do you mean? You're not going to go there. It's March. It's March. We're talking basketball. All right? Come on. But I think Gonzaga has, of all the ones, I think they have the easiest road to a final four. I look at Michigan.
Starting point is 00:59:52 They lost the kid in livers who means everything to them. I was going to, yeah, I was going to ask you about them. Guards the other teams, usually their best offensive player. I worry about them. And I think that that bracket. can really blow up because anybody can advance. Yeah, Michigan sounds like the team, the one that most people would bet,
Starting point is 01:00:16 has got early exit written all over them. But that's good news for Vegas. Evidently, the biggest sportsbook liability is with Michigan. Interestingly, and they're plus 800 to win the whole thing running through top to bottom. It's Zags plus 200, Baylor, plus 500, Illinois, plus 700. I guess the question is, would you, Like, would you rather Gonzaga just lost the game?
Starting point is 01:00:38 Is that a cliche, like lose down the stretch or early in the year? Because the undefeated thing, I mean, since the late 70s, you haven't had one go all the way. Well, I just, I can totally see it to make it even more painful. The majority of people I have is Gonzaga losing to Illinois in the final. And that's why I go Baylor. I try and go opposite what I'm hearing of people. I might end up picking Michigan because everybody I hear is picks in Texas to win that bracket. Michigan, the thing that worries me is they're guards.
Starting point is 01:01:16 They're not elite guards. Everybody talks about you want to have guards in March, you know, to score at the end of shot clocks and stuff like that. Yeah. Michigan guys are good. They're not elite. The other teams have elite guards. And then, you know, you mentioned teams like, you know, we talked to LSU and Florida states in there. Texas is in there to
Starting point is 01:01:36 pressure you all the time and Alabama's at the bottom so you that's a tough road for Michigan Illinois I might take Bama coming out of there just for the fuck of it Bama's got a tough
Starting point is 01:01:47 I know you don't want to say it but they got a tough game out of that winner of Yukon, Maryland that's a rough matchup because those teams can defend and I think
Starting point is 01:02:01 they can dictate tempo because they have Maryland can guard you across the board and Yukon can create ball pressure with their guards. Is work more fun when Maryland's making a deep run or when it's not making a deep run? Is it better to have a happy gloating Scott or angry Scott so you don't have to hear him talk about Maryland?
Starting point is 01:02:23 No, there's nothing worse than angry Scott. Yeah. Nothing. Like, you don't understand how happy I am that they're playing Saturday and I don't have to watch the game. Oh, that's great. That's great.
Starting point is 01:02:38 What's it like watching a Maryland game with Scott? I'll tell you. I know he will. It's a rhetorical question. I already know the answer to this question. What's watching a Maryland game like with Scott? I guess a car ride with like a horrible
Starting point is 01:02:53 relative. That's a terrible driver that you don't agree with anything on. The radio's fucked up. They get every person else on the road is trying to cut them off. Oh, yeah. You know, like the referee thing,
Starting point is 01:03:12 you know, trying to get a parallel there. But it's not great. It's not great. It's not great. Well, we're going to rule for the Terps. We're rooting for the Terps. Okay, okay. All right, on the record, he's rooting for the Terp.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Okay. I wanted to say about Illinois. Yeah. To me, I want to say there's only been like two champions that have Power 5 champs that have won their conference tournament and then won the national title, say, in the last 10 years.
Starting point is 01:03:37 I could be wrong. And Illinois is that team because everybody watched it. Everybody's waiting for selection Sunday. Everybody's like, oh my God, listen to Jim Nance, talk about Illinois. Jim Nance is called two college basketball games this year. Okay? And obviously,
Starting point is 01:03:53 Illinois played their best game and they won the best conference in the country. I'm just, I can't pick Illinois because everybody else is. So I'm trying to find that team in there. That's, I'm going to probably, I'm probably going to pick them to lose like in the Sweet 16. That way in my pools, if it does happen, I'm good. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:12 If not, I still have Baylor coming down. Hopefully Baylor goes. Baylor, to me, out of the ones is going to get tested the most. They're probably going to play two big 10 teams in Wisconsin and Purdue. And then they probably got actually three. Maybe Ohio State coming out of the bottom. But they have it. I say about Baylor basketball, Chris, I've said it all year.
Starting point is 01:04:37 They're my favorite team to watch because they have a bunch of men in a sport where there's not a lot of men anymore. And you watch when they come back from a COVID break and they're losing to the worst team in the league in Iowa State. And they're down 17 in the first half on their home court. And they don't, they didn't panic. They didn't just start jacking threes. You know, they worked the ball. They took the ball to the hoop. They got N-1s.
Starting point is 01:05:02 You know, they buckled down on the defensive end and got stops when they needed to. You know, they ran into, you know, Cade Cunningham in the Big 12 tournament. And Oklahoma State's playing as well as anybody in the country. They lost to Texas in the Big 12 title game. They can meet up with Illinois in the Sweet 16. They might have a complaint. Oklahoma State might have a complaint at four, right? No doubt.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Yeah. No doubt. But I don't know, like I thought last year they were, from the tournament. So I don't know what's going out. Yeah, yeah. You don't want, like Baylor, they shoot the three real well. I haven't watched them a lot. I know they shoot the three real well, but you just mentioned they don't panic and jack up shots. Is that fair to say? And like Baylor or Illinois? Baylor. Baylor, yeah. I don't know what they just have it, man. Like I watch them and I'm like this, I just, I just, they play well together. They're really,
Starting point is 01:05:55 really versatile and they're really unselfish. They don't care who scores. They just play a really good brand of Baltimore to me. And it's really, really fun to watch. If we could ever get Baylor, Illinois in the Final Four, that is a monster. Oh, that'd be fun. Monster match. That'd be fun. And listen, you mentioned the regions here and how kind the West region is to Gonzaga,
Starting point is 01:06:23 plus 200 anyways, but they've beaten the two, three, and four. They smoked us already this year. by double digits. In that region. So, yeah, it feels like they might run through the West like shit through a goose, but they might have trouble with whoever comes out of the East then. They could. They could.
Starting point is 01:06:45 And that's the problem with your bracket thing is it's, you don't know who it's going to be. Right. And that's why I said. So matchups too. That's the East is the bucket of blood to me because I honestly, everybody could be everybody down there. And I don't know what the, I'm waiting to see what the prices are on, because what I like to do the last couple of years is just to go to the final four. So that means to win your region.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Gonzaga is going to be the biggest odds to win their region. So who's the worst matchup for Gonzaga in the West because it's a very short list, I'm sure. Besides Virginia, obviously, because we were playing possum. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, because we just self-scout. We knew we'd probably see him again. I mean, like you just said, they beat the two, three, and the four by double digits. Maybe Dana Altman can diagram something with Oregon if they could get out there.
Starting point is 01:07:40 Yeah, yeah. It's a shame I'd really like Iowa as a team. They play such good basketball, really skilled guys, and they could shoot it. They're not your Big Ten normal. So like they want to get up and down and shoot threes and get it to Garza and play up and down. And they don't they don't stress the defensive end as others. Right, right, which doesn't, yeah. And I like that.
Starting point is 01:08:06 I like that. They're playing to their strengths. They know they don't have a lot of guys. It's kind of a school identity. It's like the biggest school identity mismatch of, you know, like the way you're describing them because you think about Iowa, blue collar, big 10, big guys. A lot of tight ends. That's not the case here.
Starting point is 01:08:22 So 12-5s. You mentioned that earlier. We seem to pretty much every year have a 12-5 or 2 upset. This year we've got 12, Georgetown, 5, Colorado, UC Santa Barbara, Creighton, Winthrop, Nova, Oregon State, 5, Tennessee. Which 12-5 is going to be an upset this year? Ooh. Is it, George, is it, you already told us you like Colorado.
Starting point is 01:08:46 So I do like Colorado because of McKinley, right, the point guard for Colorado, who's a four-year starter, who I want to say is like the only player in college basketball history to score like 18, have a thousand assists and have some stupid amount of rebounds. Like the kid is everything you want in a point guard. And what Georgetown does is just wants to muck it up and make things as ugly as possible for you.
Starting point is 01:09:09 So I kind of like that he's in charge and handles the ball for them. They're really versed. They could guard on the other end. Georgetown just got so much offense out of their defense that I don't know if they could rely on that against Colorado because of how good right is with the ball. So I would, and also we talked about Illinois having all this momentum about with the conference tournament.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Everyone's talking about Georgetown. And it's an awesome story, man. Like I said, I'm so happy for what they did and where they were early in the season. It's almost like Patrick Ewing intentionally didn't get recognized right before they won the. It was like a huge PR strategy to make, Georgetown the most likable team going into March Madness.
Starting point is 01:09:54 It's crazy. I, it's funny. We did the metrics, the BPI. And what's crazy is I talked about how I like Oklahoma State and Liberty, according to the math, the math, you know about the math. I love math. Liberty is a 13 and they have a higher probability of winning and advancing than any 512. than any 12th scene. Wow.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Yeah, so I thought that was kind of interesting. I said Villanova is the toughest team to seed in the tournament. I mean, they were, Villanova a couple weeks ago was on the one line. Yeah. You know,
Starting point is 01:10:32 they were right there in the conversation. Creighton, I don't know what's going on in that locker room, man. They got their coach back after he was suspended. Obviously, they got smoked by Georgetown. I know,
Starting point is 01:10:45 five team parlay. They were the last leg for me. Oh. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, no problem. No problem. Moving on.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Could have been great. Could have been great, but it was no problem. It's just disappointing. I'll be a homer and pick the beavers out of the, out of Corvallis with Oregon State. Okay. As my 12 over 5. You got an 11 making the sweet 16 by chance?
Starting point is 01:11:09 I actually do. Hmm. I have an 11 going to the lead 8. Can I take a guess? Yes. It's Drake. No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:11:18 It's not Drake. I just, you know, me in the Midwest. Let's see. Let's see. Well, the one that makes the most sense, even though I hate to say it, you just go. I don't want to guess Syracuse. Yep. It's Syracuse.
Starting point is 01:11:33 It's crazy. I've actually, I don't know why. I'm not a Syracuse fan, but I've caught myself watching them a bunch later in this year. Yeah. And growing up in the Northeast and watching Syracuse, Yukon and Syracuse and that whole thing with Bay, behind zone. I'm fascinated, fascinated by it because as a younger guy, you're like, oh, wait, like, why, if you have shooters, you just, you know, you out shoot a zone. But this team is weird because they have such good athleticism to rebound and they're actually
Starting point is 01:12:05 better offensive rebounding than, then I've seen them in the past. And I just think in a year where, like you said, nobody really played out of conference games, Chris, okay? And for a team like West Virginia who played in one of the best conferences in the country, if they come out and like that zone just starts messing with and you're shooting and you're off a little bit, you're done. You're done because then Syracuse dictates tempo with that zone and you are all out of out of, out of sorts. So that's a big win for us then in the AC tournament. Huge, huge. We just beat an elite 18. I had Syracuse money line. We just beat in an elite 18. What do you mean? We should be like a one. Now,
Starting point is 01:12:47 if West Virginia plays well, they could come out of this thing and give Illinois all they can handle. I just, and I love West Virginia Mountain Air fans. They're out of their minds and crazy and as passionate as there is. But man, they could break your heart in a second. And I just can't trust them.
Starting point is 01:13:04 I think this is his best team in a while, probably since the Final Four team. And they had a gigantic game with Villanova the year, of Villanova won it in the Sweet 16 a couple years ago. And Huggins is, I can't believe he's not. I love Bob. I can't believe he's not in the Hall of Fame. I love Bob Huggins, man. Houston, tough team, but probably not coming out of that region.
Starting point is 01:13:29 I have no. Houston is my biggest X factor in the whole thing. Yeah. Because if there's a way to beat Illinois, it's the way Houston plays. Really? Because of how many guys they have that can guard. They can guard, man. It's just they're off.
Starting point is 01:13:45 And the problem with Houston is, I think the American conference was so below par this year. But then, like, I look at Rutgers, who's a really defensive-minded team coming out of the Big Ten, and I don't like that matchup for Clemson. And I think Rutgers, I mean, that Rutgers-Huston game would be a battle. That bottom of that bracket is very interesting. And like I said, when I'm in doubt in a bracket, I'm picking the upset. So that one's probably the most chaotic. to me down there as I have Illinois playing Syracuse in the Elite 8.
Starting point is 01:14:19 As we wrap this thing up, who do you have in your final four? I have Gonzaga, Baylor. You know what? I'm going to change it right now. I'm going to go, Gonzaga, Baylor, Oklahoma State, and Florida State. Oh, nice. Okay, so it's not as chalky as at first scene. No, you can't have all ones. Well, here's the deal. Titus said this might be the year to go all ones because there's no crowd like willing you know rooting against you there's there's no travel do you do you agree that it's
Starting point is 01:14:49 probably going to be north of standard chalkiness because of those factors or do you think it's not going to make a difference no i think they did a good really good job with the matchups man like um now when you look at it i mean before i went to bed last night at three in the morning um ruckers was the only lower-seeded team favored in a game. Wow. So that's like if you're into the chalk thing, then see, that kind of scares me a way more,
Starting point is 01:15:20 you know? But yeah, they're the, because usually, I mean, obviously you're not eight to nines. I don't really count them. But I even think all the eights were favored over the nines
Starting point is 01:15:30 and the 10, 1-10-7. Now, yeah, if you've gone, Maryland, who's a two, seven,
Starting point is 01:15:36 and 10. That's a two, two and a half point spread. Oregon's probably the biggest. They're around six points against VCU, who's a team that I don't think should have been in the tournament. And Florida's like a pick-um against Virginia Tech. Yeah, Rutgers' first time in the tournament in 30 years. Did I read that right? It's awesome. Were they even playing basketball? Like, they were, I don't, God, were they even in the big East? They don't think they were in the Big East then. Their head coach is a Connecticut guy, Steve Pichol. I went to his camps when I was a young kid. As good. of a guy as there is out there. He played for Calhoun. He was the captain on the
Starting point is 01:16:11 Yukon team with the Tate George shot that ended up getting beat by Leitner in the Elite 8. That's an all-time. I'll always root for that guy. I just believe in him. He was at Stony Brook. He coached under Calhoun for a bunch of years. Ruckers is a tough, tough team that will make things tough on Houston. That's why they're favorite. That's why they're favorite. Hey, how many brackets is too many? You said earlier, you're, you're again. Picking the final four first and working backwards. What's another, like, if you're hanging out with a dude and he's like, I got four brackets, are you just like, who the fuck is this guy?
Starting point is 01:16:48 I think four's too much. I think four's okay. Four's okay? I think so. Okay. And like for me, I'm going to have Virginia winning one, obviously. I think you should always have your alma mater winning one and then you're real. That's real bright. Usually for us, we're one seat or so, so that kind of works out.
Starting point is 01:17:06 this year, maybe not so much. Oh, man. Has the arrogance come from your personal success at the same time as your alma mater's success? Like, I mean, I was there with you. We got our picture on the court. Like, I know how highly you think of the Viking Stadium because of the good juju that's happened there. We did hang out after the game. We hung out with Charles Barclay.
Starting point is 01:17:31 Yeah, like, but, but like, I don't even know if that hat fits you anymore because That head is so big. No, dude. No, dude. I just don't think, I'm just not taking any shit from Ohio Bob Katz, hot take artists that can see that we had COVID this week and might play a competitive game with the team that shouldn't be competitive with us. Have you watched Virginia basketball before? All right. We're going to win.
Starting point is 01:17:55 Steve. I would just say this. Yeah. Watch out. Okay, watch out. Number five on the Mac. Here's a deal. Here's a deal.
Starting point is 01:18:02 Here's a Mac. Yep. Listen. There's no. out how good your coach is. I just feel like you guys are more vulnerable than you have been in years. We sure are. And I think that, I think we know that. And I think that's why we're going to engage our try harder strategy and we're going to win. So we know we're not as. Feed Huff. That guy's talented. I love Huff. Love Huff. I love Huff. He's the man, the Huffster. Steve, come back soon.
Starting point is 01:18:32 We'll talk this week. And maybe I can kill. chokes you into drinking with me. Absolutely. I appreciate you, brother. All right, man. See you. By the way, Steve was very good, right? Steve knows a lot.
Starting point is 01:18:46 He was phenomenal. Oh, go-whoos. Go-whoos. You doing daylight savings time? I mean, I did it, but I'm not happy about it. It's kind of lame. Yeah, I was just going to say because I'm not doing daylight savings time and the boss of this company. no but fuck daylight savings time
Starting point is 01:19:07 Arizona does not do daylight savings time do you know that I think Arizona is a big cult I think Arizona has to be a big cult and the perks of entry are no springing forward it's like a first rule of fight club style cult and if you talk about it if you tell people about like we make too much noise about Arizona not springing forward they whack you
Starting point is 01:19:30 yeah they do they do It's like one of those things, you know, people trying to keep Austin weird. You don't want Arizona to overflow with people because of the whole, you don't have to wake up earlier that day. And then you're tired for an entire week. Honestly, I think they pay the cartel and they say, hey, clean up our mess. Guy talks about it. Guy talks about, hey, we don't spring forward.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Guy gets on Facebook. He's like, just moved to Arizona. Huge plus here. I didn't realize we don't fucking spring forward. They just tell the cartel, cleanup. our mess and it's going to look like a cartel killing but they're just actually provocative it is a i mean you have to admit the night that the clocks turn forward this um this week for everybody else the clocks turn forward which by the way like why do they make it so at 2 a.m the clocks turn
Starting point is 01:20:25 forward that's maybe my biggest issue with the whole thing read do you understand that yeah I don't get why it jumps forward like that. I feel, well, I guess it's a good thing for the people who work night shift on that. They lose an hour, but I guess you'd lose an hour of pay, too. Yeah, you're right. It's tough when they, when, you know, it's nice in the fall when you're at the bar and it's 2 a.m. twice. Listen. Hey. But you feel bad for the people working the night shift that night.
Starting point is 01:20:56 You sure do. You have to tip big time. That's right. fall back night fall back night in college bars the best night of your life maybe when you're getting that first fall back that first fall back is jarring we get to stay here another hour that night this week when people were springing forward and i was confused as i am every year i've had 35 tries at it and i don't understand it anymore than when i was a baby 2 a m i got to like how do i set my kids alarm right now. How do I calculate how
Starting point is 01:21:33 little sleep I'm getting right now? How do I right now with a new puppy, shout out to Willie, dog alert, how do I figure out how little sleep I'm getting when I got to take them out at midnight two hours before they change the clocks? And I had an early entry for worst of the week.
Starting point is 01:21:55 I know Macon really likes this segment. He's trying to get off the ground right now. Best and worst of the week. It's lifting off like a hippopotamus. It's one hell of a segment. Megan doesn't listen to this pod, so I could just talk shit about him right here. Macon walk through my yard again this week.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Like I was out in the yard, I just got them blowing leaves. Dude, I'm not, no bullshit here, Reed. That's probably my best, best around the house skill, blowing leaves. Anyways, sidebar. More ways than wine. Yeah, blowing leaves.
Starting point is 01:22:31 Hey, very good, Reed. Very good read. Um, I, uh, I walked right into that one. I mean, I just, I just walked right onto the highway there, Reed. And the irony is I walked out of the highway probably because I hit the porch just a bit ago. I was sitting out there and I just got done, you know, doing what I do, contributing to the household, blowing leaves. And I hear like a large animal walking through some of the leaves that I didn't blow now
Starting point is 01:23:02 because there are still some leaves I didn't blow out in the forest there behind my house and I'm like what the fuck is in the woods and it's a slender man in khakis it's making and he peers around the corner he's like oh oh sorry uh I'm just cutting through motherfucker the co-host to the pod is there any other pod in America whose host is out in the yard and their co-host just cuts through half of their property because there's no sidewalk on the road in front of your house. That's what he said. He explained it.
Starting point is 01:23:42 He really explained it with a serious face. Is there any other podcast where the host has to go through that? Constant contract negotiations, walking through my heart. Holy shit. Who is this guy? but yeah worst all-time moment this week so far pondering
Starting point is 01:24:05 the implications of the clock getting all jumbled and taking the dog out to take a leak so I don't know if you guys have ever done this I live in a relatively rural area depending on where you're from you might think it's very rural or that it's like the burbs but there's enough room for me to take a leak
Starting point is 01:24:25 in the backyard at night like in the back of the backyard um and i'm out there with the dog and the dog's really struggling to produce urine and if i miss this he's going to be up in another two three hours and lord knows you know i just don't want my lovely wife to be tired okay it's not good for anybody um i'm like i'm gonna go over here to this tree and take a leak and maybe he's going to hear the sound of somebody making urine and he's going to follow suit. So I hear some pitter pattering and some running around and all of a sudden he's right under my legs trying to lap up all the piss. So now I have a dog drinking peepee.
Starting point is 01:25:11 Not making pee pee pee. He's getting more hydrated so he's going to have to pee in two hours. And it's utterly ridiculous that he's drinking urine. Utterly ridiculous. I don't even feel responsible. I know the dog is eight, nine weeks old. Big time failed, dude. At that point, I'm questioning, like, am I cut out for this? I thought because I had kids, I'm totally good on the dog thing. This is going to be like, this is like a letdown week in football. Like, kids were the big game. So far, we're winning. And then we play the cupcake that we just threw on the schedule a puppy and the puppy is just kicking my ass dude puppy's kicking my ass yeah so i said the other day i'm opting out of uh daylight savings i mean it and i'm moving to arizona
Starting point is 01:26:05 housekeeping that should have been housekeeping thing um other news out out about west you're gonna love this uh my brother howie hit me with another how he's just saying entry he wants to make that a thing so how he's just saying uh he gave me a tip uh he gave me a tip on out west in Vegas where he lives, there's this tortoise. It is competing or trying to compete with Punksitani Phil, the Groundhog. We so dearly love here at the Green Light Pot.
Starting point is 01:26:36 This fucking turtle, Mojave Max, is like the South Nevada superstar. Like he's in the minors right now, but when he gets the majors, he's gonna compete with Phil. And I just remember you heard it here that there is a turtle that is going to make some noise. Okay? Out of the West.
Starting point is 01:26:59 Mojave Max. The western poxville. When it's hot, they dig deeper or something. That's how he told me. But I also wouldn't really rely on that. I wouldn't rely on anything I'm saying on the subject, but I definitely wouldn't rely on anything how he's saying on the subject. he also said that he went to his girlfriend's friend's house and like kind of was walking around
Starting point is 01:27:24 in the backyard it was like a cookout and fell and almost like broke his ankle tripping into like a miniature kiss the girls ring like a maze you remember the movie kissed the girls and they had a maze down there it was turtles it was all turtles so there's a rule in nevada or Vegas that if a tortoise and that's what they like to be referred to is tortoises. They're not turtles, they're tortoises. Wander onto your property, you own the turtle.
Starting point is 01:27:55 You have to take care of it. And you can't do anything about it. If the turtle just squats, you've got to fucking sit there. Like you come down in the morning, you look through the glass, and there's like six turtles just staring you down,
Starting point is 01:28:08 waiting for you to feed them fucking cabbage or whatever. It's terrifying, really. I mean, like, that's... The three factors that cause the desert tortoise to emerge in the spring, warmer temperatures, longer days, and an internal clock. Its instincts.
Starting point is 01:28:24 Pretty similar to our Pucks Dittani Phil, friend. You know, another thing that drives them out of their, their mazes, their little dens, is horniness, evidently. Yeah, Howie hit me with the fact, 80 to 100 is their lifespan. This is like midnight. I'm trying to go to sleep. and I can barely keep my eyes up on how he's just rifling facts at me. Tortoises can store semen for seven years.
Starting point is 01:28:53 What am I going to do with that information? 80 to 100 lifespan. They don't hibernate. They go dormant, which is actually cool and have me thinking that turtles are the motorhomes of the animal kingdom. If you think about it, who else can hibernate, like has a portable hibernation, like, set up. Pretty cool to be a tortoise. downside slow upside you're always at home and if you live in Nevada you could be like a local
Starting point is 01:29:22 celebrity slash squat you get squatters rights in anybody's fucking house you get cabbage privileges and you get to dig mazes in people's backyards also shout out to um howie's girlfriend friend Lindsey. Shout out to Lindsay's dad, who is a listener of the pod. To tie the whole thing up in a bow there. Reed, Grammys, dude, I do think Freddie Gibbs got snubbed. Him and Alchemist crushed it with Alfredo. But to me, it's not even, you know, my favorite one of his albums, like I'm a big bandana and piñata guy. But I'll say this album should have won the whole damn thing and he got snubbed and he took it like a champ though he took it like a champ he's really good at at collaborating with the right beatmakers and i just i hold him in like a rick ross regard there if you like
Starting point is 01:30:16 rick ross i think rick ross picks the best production for his music out of anybody in our era like i like him as a rapper very much but i do think uh he's tasteful and freddie has done some great stuff with alchemist right here. But the stuff he's done with Madlib is probably my favorite. Jay Electronica's album is pretty damn good too. That was my second favorite one. I mean, I warmed up because I was tired a little bit before we started this pod, I warmed up listening to Ghost to Soldier Slim.
Starting point is 01:30:58 I played that shit really loud. and I also played 1985 really loud. And it did the trick. I'm here, I'm awake. We're almost done with this thing. We got to drink some beer in a second. I wasn't into the Nause album. That was like a lifetime achievement thing.
Starting point is 01:31:15 But he deserves it. He won like a late ring that he very much deserved. So I'm not even like, you know, I wouldn't that into it. But Gibbs will have another shot at it down the line. so I don't know any of these fucking songs like the uh the songs that were nominated last night like any of them best song best country song best rap song I don't know any of them like haven't heard of any of them so maybe uh Macon and I will listen to some of these uh Grammy nominations this year that I had like I didn't recognize any of them I'm telling you
Starting point is 01:31:57 so you know Macon south of that although he might know some of the best country songs. Let's drink some Irish beer on a high note. Because we got St. Patty's Day coming up. Reed, what do you got in the name of St. Patrick back there? Oh, boy. So we're going to play a game called Guess the Guinness. In front of you, you have six stouts.
Starting point is 01:32:22 One of them is a Guinness. The other five are stouts from local breweries. You're going to taste them, rank them, and after you've tasted all six, you're going to guess which one is the Guinness. Okay. That's good. That sounds good.
Starting point is 01:32:39 I like stouts. I do. Guinness is also very healthy relative to a lot of other beers. It looks dark. So you're thinking, I've had some heavy shit. Nah, not a lot of calories. Not a lot of calories at all. Okay.
Starting point is 01:32:56 You know, the thing about being Irish, too, is, or having Irish in my blood, is, taste is not that important when it comes to alcohol. You just kind of drink it. But I'll do my best to be a snob about stout. Stout number one. Kentucky Barrel Stout by Lexington Brewing and Distilling Company. Okay, this is beer one. Yeah, that's heavy.
Starting point is 01:33:24 That's definitely not, um, ooh. Oh, it's like coffee. Coffee. I'm getting coffee. foreign to fucking taste out here okay i wasn't so good at the wine thing will will blackman was like this fucking asshole i didn't want to say it because he he's not he can't cuss like that but uh he was frustrated when i couldn't taste the rose hips in the rollo but i taste coffee right here right off the bat syrupy you can tell when a beer's really heavy
Starting point is 01:34:03 because as you tilt your glass, you can feel it kind of topple over at once. It's like, you know, it's like a body would roll over and thump. That's the way a heavy stout hits the side of the cup, whereas like a Pilsner gently kind of rolls around the solo cup, so to speak. It's so hard not to drink these entire beers. That one give me a, get this coffee. another sip. I don't drink coffee, so it's like a delicacy for me. Bitter, coffee, dark coffee,
Starting point is 01:34:42 dark roast. All right, I'm going to give it a 6.8. It's a good beer. Out of 10. Yeah, and listen, I might have ranked beers from the NIT of beers, Mexican beers. I might have ranked other ones a 6.8, but that doesn't reflect the same on this scale. It's like just a different scale. This is an Irish beer scale. Stout number two. Milk stout by Duck Rabbit Craft Brewing. Okay, beer number two.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Have you seen the YouTube of the guy that just drinks, he like just fucking hammers 12 beers? And after four of them, every four of them, he like checks in. And he sounds amazing, like, and intelligent after four. And then 80s starts slurring. And then 12, he's like dead. I think I have. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:33 The guy is an absolute animal. An animal. I would be honored to hammer 12 beers with him. I think he does tequila too. Like different alcohols. Well, now I'm 35. You know, like, I was the final boss at 23. Now I'm like the first guy that gets karate kicked in the neck in an arcade game.
Starting point is 01:35:58 No, I still got some final boss nights in me. I just, you know, you see me in action read. I can still do it, but I just don't do it as much. I'm more like the mysterious guy who used to have it in an action movie. You know, like, oh, that guy used to have it. And I'm always, like, facing away from the camera. And, like, randomly in a big moment, I will kick the shit out of somebody. That's me when it comes to drinking.
Starting point is 01:36:23 I still got it. Don't need to do it all the time. All right. Ooh. Oh, goodness gracious. I don't even know what that taste is. what just happened in my mouth dude what happened with this thing oh don't it's hard not i'm rating beers here happen again taste just moves right back to the uh the middle of the
Starting point is 01:36:52 back of your tongue and you're just like ugh bitter i don't know if i'm enjoying drinking this beer I got to try not to be like constructive and just be honest. I mean like and it's, I'm going to take a dump on this beer right now and give it a five. No, four and a half, which is really bad because it's bad to get below a five for me. So I'm not into this flavor. Obviously some people are and I know that some people work very hard to,
Starting point is 01:37:23 to brew this beer. But I've drank bleach that tasted better. Just for my palate, I might be allergic to the beer. Okay? Just tell me the name of that beer. Duck Rabbit, Kraft Breweries, Milk Stout. Milk stout. See, you know, that's some, you gotta be a fucking,
Starting point is 01:37:48 you gotta be the heavyweight champion of like, living in an overcast city and fucking hanging out at a coffee shop. I don't know, somebody in Seattle? You gotta be like the, yeah, you gotta be a, to drink milk stouts. That's something dudes with beards drink. Like fish market dudes. Drink.
Starting point is 01:38:09 You know what I mean? You know, Reed, who do you think drinks milk stouts? Hopefully not many people. You don't like your, well, based on your review.
Starting point is 01:38:20 Could have been a bad batch, dude. It could have been a bad cup, even. I'm trying to give any, how'd I can, dude, you know,
Starting point is 01:38:26 fucking, because I respect that some people like that beer and it's all subjective. I'm sure they're fine people. that brew that beer. Maybe they have another beer. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:38:37 At that brewery. I would hope so. Okay, cool. Get a 24 pack of whatever else they make. I feel bad. I'll just drink the whole thing. I'll do it right now. Stout number three.
Starting point is 01:38:49 Samuel Smith Imperial Stout. Beer number three. Beer number three, it's kind of sour. And it's not too heavy. It's not a Guinness. it's not a guinness um
Starting point is 01:39:04 i don't think it's a guinea but it golly it could be a guineas i feel like when i'd go for the guineas i should go back and get a sip of everything but this beer is very down the middle it's like a six maybe um and i'd like to bump the first beer up to a seven okay this is a six beer three is a six
Starting point is 01:39:26 and uh that first beer is a seven beer two we're not going to talk about that milk stout milk i know how you milk it tastes like that i tell you what stout number four guinness beer four now that's smooth that's got guinness written all over it oh there's a reason people love this shit now i realize if this isn't guinness i'm gonna look like a fucking fool i realize that but i'm a man of conviction I mean, it's so smooth. Oh,
Starting point is 01:40:05 terrific. I want to go to a bar. I mean, I'm not going to. Novel coronavirus pandemic. Yeah, it's still out there, but golly, this, it's like an old friend right here. Telling you.
Starting point is 01:40:26 And if it's not Guinness, I'll blame it on my Irish heritage. And like I said earlier, we don't really taste well. Taste good enough to me, though. I'm probably asked you to get me another Guinness after this is all said and done read oh yeah if that's a Guinness that's a nine milk stout bros are going to be like oh oh oh well that's don't even have any craft beer and I'm going to be like yeah I've had a lot of it
Starting point is 01:40:50 what's your point Guinness is fucking remarkable I guarantee you I'm about take a sip and I'm going to look like a fool because this is going to be Guinness beer five but I think beer four is Stout number five Left Hand Brewings Milk Stout No Beer 5 tastes like Like a coffee
Starting point is 01:41:09 That you make taste good I think all coffee tastes great I mean like if we're talking about poison Coffee tastes pretty damn good I don't think you need to dress it up But if you want all the fixings This tastes like a coffee with fixings Let's go 7.2
Starting point is 01:41:28 7.3 I like that beer Stout, number six. Dragons milk, Bourbon Barrel Age, stout by New Holland Brewing. All right, down with the wire, beer six.
Starting point is 01:41:40 That's the sound of hydration. You'd hear it a lot if you were around me all day. Oh! Did I just drink out of a coffin after a rainstorm? Oh, I don't know, man. I don't know. I don't know if...
Starting point is 01:42:09 I didn't think this was possible. That there would be a... another player on the field that would be as hideous to watch operate, or in this case, taste as player number two was, right? It was two? Yeah, player number two was, I didn't think it was going to be possible. I didn't think we'd be back here. I'm here. I might get drunk tonight, honestly. I just had that, like, you know that moment read where you cross, like, cross the threshold. And you're like, okay,
Starting point is 01:42:45 it hit me. Yeah. I'm getting fucked up. There'll be times like on a Sunday or you're day drinking or whatever. Sunny out. Well, you're not day drinking. You're nursing a hangover. It's cute when you go buy some pediolite, right? That's fucking cute. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:43:04 That's good enough for babies. Eventually, that day you succumb to the fact that it looks beautiful outside and the quickest way to numb the pain and kick the can down the road is uh is get a table outside dude that moment is awesome it's a lot like this moment i'm feeling right now and that moment it can turn into like a four-day thing and st patty's day is like not tomorrow it's the day after tomorrow and i'm sitting here thinking am i about to get drunk for four days you know what i'm describing
Starting point is 01:43:39 Yeah, I know. Where you just succumb to like, you know, your Irish roots? And you're just down to pound a couple more beers? Well, you're just like, you fully opt in to the experience of just feeling like shit in a couple days. And between now and then, it's just going to be hazy. Right. I feel like I might be there. But I have a puppy.
Starting point is 01:44:03 I have two kids. I hope my lovely wife is listening. I love you, Meg. I'm not going to do it. Was that touching or what, Reid? We've got tears flowing from my eyes back here. It was beautiful.
Starting point is 01:44:20 Get some tissues. We've got to finish this fucking pod. This beer. I haven't felt this way about a liquid in years, dude. I want to drink it again just to... I think this is what, like, when you get captured
Starting point is 01:44:34 in wartime is the only thing you can drink. and they break you. They break you because I wouldn't last the day, dude. I'll tell you everything. I will tell you everything, man. Read, give me the beers. What was your rating for number six?
Starting point is 01:44:55 It's a three. It's a three. It's a three. And also, again, same thing I said about beer two stands for beer six. I appreciate the effort. And it's just not for me. All right, beer number one, which you gave a seven, is the Kentucky Barrel Stout by Lexington Brewing and Distilling Company. Man, how does that one taste, they say?
Starting point is 01:45:23 Yeah, it says, is it coffee barrel stout? Yeah, coffee, coffee, coffee, hot coffee, shout out do drop. What was number two? Number two, you gave it a four and a half. That was the milk stout by Doug. Yeah, yeah, you told me that one. Yeah, we already know that one damn near killed me until I met number six
Starting point is 01:45:42 and I realized that's what death tastes like. Give me three. Number three, which you gave a six, was Samuel Smith's Imperial Stout. Hmm. Samuel Smith. Samuel Smith, uh,
Starting point is 01:46:00 Imperial Stout. Uh, yeah, yeah, cool bottle, too. There were some cool bottles. Well, I mean, I'm telling you, these are the guys with the beards that have like apothecaries. Work at fish markets. I'm telling you. Number four, which you gave a nine and was
Starting point is 01:46:18 your final guess of a Guinness was indeed Guinness. Know it like the back of my hand, read? Know it like the back of my hand, big boy. First thing I'm drinking when I get out of this pandemic is a 12 of Guinness. First thing. when I get out of this motherfucker is I'm getting some Guinness. First thing, dude. Like if I was in the clink and I'm thinking about the first thing I'm going to go do,
Starting point is 01:46:54 I'm going to get some Guinness in public with a buddy. Give me five. Number five, which you gave a 7.3. Is milk stout by left-hand brewing. Ooh, milk stout is in the building. Left-hand milks in a left-hand milk stout at that.
Starting point is 01:47:21 Man, I would never buy that at Whole Foods. I would never be like, yeah, that's the one. I might go buy this thing. Probably like drinking a white Russian or something. is probably like the caloric comparison. I love. Oh my God, look it. I got the shirt on right now. I got the fucking
Starting point is 01:47:48 shit on right now, motherfuckers. Yeah, I got a dude-a-bide shirt on. And I did not abide with number six. Number six, which you gave a three very generously was Dragon's Milk, Bourbon Barrel-age Stout by New Holland.
Starting point is 01:48:12 and brewing. I mean, I mean, if your fucking name is 18 syllables, it's like a play that the coach probably shouldn't be running.
Starting point is 01:48:31 You should not be running that play. If it takes you seven seconds to tell me what the name of the beer is, you should not be making that beer. I'm just telling you, prove me wrong, dude. prove me wrong that's the play when it comes in the huddle everybody rolls their eyes like oh this shit that we have to run every thursday and never works this is and listen i hate the fact that somebody is going to be like did you hear chris long's podcast and then that guy's going to go who
Starting point is 01:49:08 I hate that But then I also hate the fact that Somebody's gonna be like I make that beer So whoever makes that beer If it ever gets back to you Not that I'm self-important enough To think that it's gonna get back to you
Starting point is 01:49:27 You probably make other shit And I'm just not a fan of this one I like brewers man I don't want to piss the brewers off Not talking baseball Um Hey Happy St. Patty's Day,
Starting point is 01:49:43 Happy March Madness. This is the best week. This is the best week of the year, dude. It's the best week of the year, in my opinion. Is that a prisoner of the moment take? No idea. Revisit it next week. But for this week, it's the best week of the year.
Starting point is 01:50:01 So, um, hope you guys enjoy it. And we will be back Friday with Macon. and I'm going to put this out in the universe. I got a good guest. Y'all take care.

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