Green Light with Chris Long - NFL IS BACK! HOF Game Recap & Goodell Appeals Watson’s Suspension. United States First Ladies Draft.

Episode Date: August 5, 2022

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Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. Cowboy. The NFL is back. We have a Hall of Fame game recap for you, but first, we talk about Roger Goodell appealing the suspension for Deshaun Watson. And Chris has a number of observation deck thoughts from training camp. He talks Bill Belichick's feelings on fantasy football. We talk Aaron Rogers' Revelations and Trevor Penning's training camp fights.

Chris is going to run through his NFL team win totals. We'll talk about the 13 teams that could win the AFC, per Chris Collinsworth. And then at the end of the show, Chris, Dr. Faxx and Cowboy Reed are going to draft their favorite first ladies of all time in the United States history. Hey, y'all enjoy. Reed, this is the last, uh, this is the last show from the road. No more bad audio, no more Zoom. Uh, I've kind of enjoyed these, you know? They've been fun. It's good always checking in from different locations. Yeah, it's good having me out of the office in so many words. You guys clean that shit up. I'll be home Monday, okay? So, you know, I want all the drugs off the table.

I want all the chairs move back into their, their, their normal places. Daddy's coming home, Reed. Hey, we're going to get some solid work done this fall. All my bets are going to hit. You know that training camp, like kind of good feeling that everybody has this time of year? Podcasters too, man. Everything's going to go smoothly this fall, Reed. So can't wait to get home.

That means Montana's coming to a close. So we're back to work here. Little football. And then we're going to get to the first lady's draft, which we recorded in, gosh. July, June? June. June. Seems like a lifetime.

Good June. Sure does. So we got the first lady's draft coming up. That was me, Dr. Fax, Cowboy Reed, right in his wheelhouse. Most of them are dead. The first ladies, that is. Matt was the judge. I think we got four first ladies we all drafted.

No spoilers, but I think it did pretty good. But I think that after all, my drafts. And then you motherfuckers told me I lose them. online. But I think that's a good thing. The day you guys start agreeing with me out there on Twitter, the day I got to worry. I'm pretty glad you guys don't like my drafts. Um, first lady draft coming up in a few minutes. Okay. The big news today when I emerged the Roger Goodell appeal, the NFL appealing, right? I don't know much about it other than he's bringing in the guy that did the Zeke Elliott, um, work, right? Peter Harvey. Yeah, he was a he was a consultant

on the Zeke Elliott suspension, former Attorney General of New Jersey. Well, I'll tell you what this is. And Roger, now you know how we feel as NFL players, because what you're doing is you're looking for a second opinion, right? When we played, oftentimes you'd have a perfectly visible, identifiable injury, and you bring it to the trainers, and you'd be like, hey, look at this x-ray. What do you think? Looks like my leg snapped in half.

And they're like, I don't know. it looks like maybe a hairline fracture. And then you're like, okay, well, I'll go talk to another doctor. And we call that a second opinion in the bids. That's what Roger Goodell is getting a second opinion. Only he knows this doctor gave Zeke Elliott six games. So this is like that doctor that you know you can call it. He's going to be like, yep, compound fracture there.

I don't know how they missed that. So he's going to call this guy. This guy's going to say, hey, it's got to be at least 12 games. right? Because I don't think that this is going to, he's doing this to get what he wants. So he knows he's going to get what he wants here, right? I didn't see what the reaction was, gentlemen. I would assume pretty positive reception. That's right.

Okay. I would expect some type of fine as well. Yeah. And maybe you can touch some of that signing bonus this way. But, I mean, more than anything, you're talking about 12 games, probably, at least. if he gets his way because he was asking for 12 and was it $8 million? Is that is that about right? That's what he was asking for in the final when they were trying to settle.

But what is rumored is a year and a indefinite suspension of at least a year in a large monetary fine. You know what they should do? I don't want to make light of this any of it, really. but week 13. Imagine if he was suspended 12 games. You know who they play week 13? Who's that?

Houston Texans. I mean, you can't make this show. He was suggesting 12 games. Super Bowl contenders. Well, those spoilers here. We've got to talk about Chris Collinsworth in the Hall of Fame game shortly. I mean, Chris said they're 13 Super Bowl contenders in the AFC. See, I have a feeling I know one of them.

And that's the Mills Mafia. That's Davis Mills and Lovie Smith. Lovie Smith was amazing the other day. I was like, man, I want to play football for that guy. He was. But all this probably points to the Browns having to start Jacoby Brissette a lot this year. And I love Jacoby and everything. But obviously, it's going to be a deal where they got to play complimentary football and

scrap and hang in there in a division that I thought was going to be pretty tough. If Jacoby's starting 12 games, I don't see this division being as competitive top to bottom. This is a big drop off from three teams that are Super Bowl contenders, three of the 13 AFC teams that are Super Bowl contenders, according to Chris Collinsworth, it's going to be interesting. Well, but if you look at the Browns, they're a team built for the complimentary football. They have two of the best running backs in the O.C. And they have a defense that's on the up and up.

They have great pass rushers and a secondary that's healthy now that can defend the paths even better than they did last year. It's a great point, Reed. And I think there's something to that. And Jacoby is probably going to play within the confines of the offense a little bit better than a Baker Mayfield. He might turn the ball over less. But there's a top end speed that they just don't have,

that they were definitely going to have with Deshaun Watson. And even with Baker Mayfield, they had a little bit of explosiveness so that they're not going to have with Jacoby Reset. Now, to your point, I think, you know, Jacoby's a type of guy that can say, I know that I got to go 35 miles an hour and we can still win. You know, I don't have to speed for us to win here, for us to get home. If he can kind of take care of the football, they can be competitive. But I don't believe they can contend. Now, what they could do if it's a 12-game suspension is keep that ball in the air so that when Deshaun comes back, they can make a run. And it's gross to even talk about it.

You know, it's almost like the wound is too fresh with everything we've been talking about the last week. But, you know, he could come back, We-13, and it could be the most talked-about game in the NFL. And this is really going to be interesting to see if, you know, all news is good news because Deshaun. Watson coming back is going to make a lot of news at some point, whether it's week 13 or it's next year to start the season. I'm really interested to see how people are going to talk about this. I know week one, you know, it's going to be like now you just can't leave with Baker Mayfield.

He's going to lock the doors to that motherfucker at Bank America Stadium. And it's going to smell like bow jangles and revenge in there, dude. I can't wait. I can't wait. I hope Baker plants the fucking. Panthers flag at midfield, which would make sense because they'll be at home. He's going to plan a Baker-Mayfield flag. He's just going to plan a big old Baker flag right at midfield.

A flag at his face. Yeah. The brown? He should probably plan an Oklahoma flag because it's his house. You know how dudes like have their alma mater's flags on the front porch, especially at the beach? If Baker Mayfield really feels like he's at home, what he'll do is he'll start planning flags. that he would have on his front porch. I felt like his reputation

was sort of in trouble like last year, but now that the Browns are so evil and like they did him wrong, it's like it paints him in this good place. This is the only thing that could have saved him. You know, and I've thought at times that it got a little bit overblown with the Baker hatred,

but this is the thing that's going to save him. You know, people in Cleveland, the ones who have not burnt the moral bridges, getting autographed Gatorade towels from Deshawn Watson on day one of training camp the same day. The suspension is handed down. Those of the noble Cleveland fans, they're going to miss Baker.

I think they're going to say like, fuck, dude, you know what? It wasn't so bad. You know, this guy, all he did was talk too much and throw some interceptors. The other guy was like a predator. You know, so it's going to be really interesting. Keep an eye out for Brissette Wentz week 17.

I'm just saying it. Just there's going to be magic in the air, dude. It's all about the handshake, Reed. I just, I cannot wait for some of these handshakes. Okay. I can't wait. The Carson Wentz, the Carson Wentz, Doug Peterson handshake. Oh, I'm just getting all types of, I can't wait to create content that day, dude.

that day is just going to be a killer day to create content. Carson Wentz going to Link, you know? Oh, come on, dude. We got some dynamite handshakes and reunions this year to look forward to. So keep an eye out for the news is going to drop. Probably when do you think we'll get a ruling here? Probably early next week. I think today is too early.

New suspension just dropped. That's going to be the new slang. New suspension just dropped. I can't wait. New Sussie. New Sussie just dropped. A new Sussie just dropped. I don't want to get cease and desisted.

Billy, Billy football is off a suspension, right? I haven't really been paying attention to shit like that. Okay. Good for Billy. Observation deck, man. Okay, a few things. I came out of the woods.

You guys had a list of shit that happened. You wanted me to kind of like check it out. So I checked out Trevor Penning, getting picked out of practice. Dude, what a Mickey Mouse league we're playing in. I was expecting to see some fucking Kyle Turley shit. I was expecting to see some helmets flying. I was expecting to see some.

You remember when, I don't even remember who it was, Washington and somebody got in this big joint practice fight a few years ago. The Texans. There's DeAngelo Hall and DeAndre Hopkins. Yeah. I fear God. Yeah. The Rams and the Cowboys, okay?

What a time to be alive. There were fans leaning over the fucking fence at, at Irvine. They were tugging at the cowboys. Maybe a couple of them got shots in. That's a training camp fight when the fans are involved. What the fuck is this? I thought I was going to see Logan Mankins out there just like finishing people. Okay. This guy, he loves to get the last shove. Welcome to the NFL. Okay. I want to read you Kyle's tweet. Kyle's jumping out of the gym for this kid. Okay. So part of the Greenlight family is buying this behavior. Not surprisingly. Okay. Trevor Penning, keep finishing.

Your teammates will absolutely love you once you start pounding on divisional opponents. Jesus, Kyle. Guy finishes so well, they gave him off the rest of practice. Getting some blood flow, Kyle. And that's his third. He did three practices in a row getting booted. So here's the deal. I'm looking at these videos.

Okay, first off, the video of him, you know, there's a video of this kid, Trevor Penny. I'm not saying he's not a tough guy. I'm sure he's a tough kid, dude. But everybody's tough up here. Everybody's tough. Oh, that guy, that guy you've never heard of, he's tough too. Okay. So Trevor Penning, you know, the video where he's like,

ask me, ask me what I love about football? Ask me that. And the guy's like, what do you love about football? And he's like legally assaulting someone every play. I'm like, bro, they need to make copies of that fucking thing and ship that DVD. every D-Line room. I mean, people should be watching that in hotel ballrooms across America. These D-Lines, that needs to be like the way we watched, you know, Ken Burns on the rolling VCR in high school,

that's the way D-Lines need to be watching that Trevor Penning clip. What a tough guy. Oh, my God. Play one. Okay. The first play. it's a pass set. Oh, this is the first play he gets kicked out of practice. He fucking shoved the guy. Okay. And then the other,

the guy shoved him. And then, you know, like you had a helmet swipe. Okay. Both guys walked back to the hotel. The vets, the vets barely got up.

Okay. If you ever watch a training camp fight when two rookies get into it and like one-on-one pass rush or team period, you'll see some guys like Cam Jordan's kind of like, do I have to? Like, you know, like,

like how do I look like? want to get involved here, but just let these fucking guys figure it out. Like these young fucks, it's nothing serious. Okay, play one, nothing serious. Play two, minor league shit, play two, okay? Play two is like another shove, okay? Play three, okay, he dumps a camp body. Number 60, guys wearing a number, he's a camp body.

No disrespect to this kid. Camp body got his feet pangled. outside zone or whatever it was camp body got his feet tangled i'm not impressed okay i'm sure this kid's gonna be a good player i'm sure he's a tough guy but kyle's tweet only holds weight if you're really good okay so we'll see if he's really good kyle might be really good easily impressed i say kyle easily impressed we'll see we'll see i remember the days where where like camp fights were fucking crazy dude. This is child's play.

Some of the stuff that work, you know, like, fuck, dude. I got to get, now I got to talk about it on the observation deck. We've already given it three minutes at least. Tim Patrick Reed, a bit of bad news. Big bummer. All prayers to Tim. He made it in the league. He was undrafted a free agent and battled to kind of become one of the Broncos top receivers,

led the team in touchdowns last year, and it is a big time bummer to see him go down. in training camp. Third year in a row, the Broncos lost a receiver to an ACL. That's tough, man. I mean, that's tough. But, you know,

honestly, let me say this first. Like, Tim Patrick is just the guy that people like. I mean, like, I don't care if you're a fan and an opponent. I'm sure Tim Patrick just gets a lot of respect,

his story. You know, undrafted, he's led that team in touchdowns for a couple years now, the way he plays the game. He stepped up in some big spots for them last year. I mean, there were no big spots for y'all last year. But there weren't many.

The big spots for the Broncos, like if you watch Broncos football games, if you gambled on Broncos football games, you knew who Tim Patrick was because he made big plays. And so, you know, like, you guys should be good enough to replace a number two receiver. I'm not minimizing loss, but it's early to start having these losses, right? That's the tough part because like if this happened in week six, you're like, okay, we've gone six weeks. weeks we haven't lost anybody. Now you're behind the eight ball already. So you can't afford any more injuries. Judy's got to stay healthy. You know, that back's got to stay healthy. My goodness, he's fun to watch. So, hey, Brightside Reed, at least he's hanging out with the guy that rehabs 23 hours a day.

Russell Wilson is going to be camped outside of Tim Patrick's house, dude. Like, just making sure you're rehabbing. Marquis Brown. Somebody told me he was speeding, Reed. He was going quick. He was driving fast arrested in Maricopa County. You know what? It's kind of like they say, you know, when you see a guy with a big truck, everybody's like, I got a small penis. He's a little guy.

Like he's got to like step, you know, what do they call those? I don't have one. I don't have fuck. I don't need. My kids got to climb that shit like Everest. I'm not stepping down on a little step thing, dude. But here's the point. Little guys who are fast as fuck.

I don't understand why they have to overcompensate going fast. in the morning. I left her late as fuck, dude. That's the only reason. And how late are you and how big is the fine that you need to go 125 miles an hour, dude? Mm-hmm. So obviously, it's at least part I got to go fast on the road, which makes no sense to me because there's nothing to overcompensate for.

Okay? It shouldn't work that way. Slow, slow fucking fat guys with flat feet. and like, boat in knees who don't get a lot of exercise should be the ones going 125 miles an hour on the road. Not Marquis Hollywood Brown, dude. Guys fast as fuck. There's no need to go to 125 miles an hour on the road for him.

Here's the worst part. I was about to defend him. I saw everybody online was like, oh, this fucking idiot. Another NFL player making bad decision. I was like, hold on a second. In Maricopa County, they'll fucking throw a turtle in jail for breaking the speed limit. Like you can you can be going 20 over.

Whoops, you're going to jail in that county. Am I right? 85. Yep, 85. Isn't it funny? There's a fucking speed limit there,

but you can probably have as big a gun as you want in that county. You probably have a bazook amounted on your car. What happened? Yeah, as long as it's not going 65. Right, right, right. Isn't that a motherfucker?

Hollywood Brown is criminal speeding in the state as if maximum 30 days in jail in a $500 fine. And in football, the way it impacts the Cardinals, D'Andre Hawkins is also, he's still suspended for the first six games. So you spend $230 million on a quarterback who's going to throw the ball to the first six games of the season. Boy, oh boy, Reed. They've had a rough few weeks. weeks, you know, a few months here. I mean, even a big victory, like signing your quarterback, the news gets Pac-Man by that clause. So, I mean, fuck, that's a crazy county, huh? Put you in jail for speeding. They can't count. But that's what, that's what some people will tell you.

Anyways. So you put Marquise Brown on the list. I was about to be like, gosh, you don't even fucking know. I was like, man, I got the ace in the hole. We're going to find out this guy's going 86 miles an hour and people are unjustly dumping on Marquise Brown. Little did I know he was going 40 miles an hour over that speed. I mean, my God, that's fast. One time, I rented a car. I had to go from L.A. to Tucson. I think I've talked about this before. It's the only time I've ever rented a convertible. I wanted to see how fast I could go. And I got up to 105 and I said, no, I'm too much of a fucking baby for this.

I can't. I'm just not a speed guy. I'm just not a speed guy. Bill Belichick, what did he say, Reid? He said he does not care about fantasy football. Wait till you're retired, Bill, if that ever happens. Like, just wait till you're retired. I used to feel the same way.

But obviously, you just haven't been a fan of football before you've always worked in football. The minute you retire, Bill, you're going to get it, dude. I was just on the phone with Tom, shout out Tom, trying to figure out where we're going to hold our draft this year, trying to figure out what the punishment's going to be, by the way. You know, there's a punishment out there in the wind, man, you know, Matt Conrath, who lost last year. He was supposed to drive a beater everywhere for 30 days. I just didn't feel like buying a car off Craigslist. Okay, I'll admit it. this is all me i mean matt's been ready to serve his time drive around into jalopy he's six foot seven look like a fucking mario card character i was going to put him in a smart car like like james

harrison but i don't want to spend six thousand dollars i just bet the texans overwin total i don't have that kind of money all right so anyways bill can you imagine what bill's um fantasy football team would look like it would be like hunter renfro Rex Burkehead, Devin Allen. He'd probably take Chris from McCaffrey in the first round. Oh, for sure, for sure. Well, durability issues. Paul, he might, he might, he just out of left field draft Paul Rabble.

You know, just fucking throw, get it, because Chris Hogan's out of league now. Do you know how much Bill Belichick probably hated? And I don't understand it because he's a great guy. But he had to hate Brian Leonard. because he didn't he didn't draft brian leonard white running back from ruckers i played with brian leonard in st louis i thought i thought about that tonight anyways um coach you'll love fantasy football dude you and i wonder if he'd mop up can you imagine him sitting on the couch and seeing christian

christian mcalfrey not used in the right way and just going absolutely berserk yes dude like say say he he's Christian McCaffrey's in the flat, wide open. He could have a 40-yard touchdown. The quarterback doesn't hit him or they don't call the right play. And he just loses it. And then that's how he loses his game. And he just loses his mind. He would definitely be leaning on people to release players at the end of the season.

Yeah. Like, he would definitely be, you know what I mean? Oh, God, tampering. He would be pulling a Tom Brady out there. And then lastly, we have the Aaron Rogers news. do we call it news? I mean, it's not news. It's a guy did,

he did some plant medicine. He did some plant medicine. I'm glad he's talking about it. That's, you know, like, I don't see the problem here. Is there a problem? Are people making this a problem? Or are most people doing the straw man?

I can't believe people are making this a problem thing. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I think most people are just kind of like, This is just kind of goofy now. You know, he's had a number of these kind of revelations, you know, about his, that he's released over the past year, two years. And so I think people are just kind of like, oh, it's another one that's just kind of goofy. But I don't understand.

Isn't it a drug? So wouldn't, shouldn't it? No, no. That shouldn't show up on a drug test. Now, I don't know, you know, you get some random drug tests throughout the year for street drugs. And most of the street drugs are staying in your system, like, pretty quick. quickly. So if you're like doing cocaine or something, that's, you'd have to be pretty unlucky or have a problem to, you know, to get, to get flagged for booger sugar or something.

Something I always say, I've never tried. Okay. Don't intend on it. Don't even like coffee. I can't see myself chewing my face off in a nightclub. Okay. But DMT is on the list. I got to film a heartbeat. EMT is a banned substance, okay? But they've never, you know, if you don't test Aaron Rogers for it, it'd be like me talking about smoking weed as a player in the past

and saying I've tried weed before, but I've never tested. You know what I mean? I don't know, I don't know that there's anything they can do about that. Nor do I think there's anything they should be able. able to do about that. I think players talking about stuff like this, you know, it's good for the next

generation of player, you know, it kind of normalized. I mean, you're talking about, put this in perspective. This is a franchise quarterback, one of the best ever play the game, talking about going to Peru and doing ayahuasca with a shaman on a podcast. these were the guys that in the 80s and 90s did Coca-Cola commercials. And that's all you heard from them. Branding, the media, what guys are talking about. Things are just so different now. It's just crazy to wake up one day and see Aaron Rogers.

This was the fucking get this. This is the first headline I saw on Google. Aaron Rogers talks ayahuasca experience how it helped him get back in the game. Milwaukee 6. Is that a copper fit ad? I mean, is that a fucking, is that like a fucking Viagra ad?

I mean, like, get back in the game with ayahuasca. You know, it's like, it's, it's going to be funny to hear people talk about this. Jimmy Trana,

Trana's thoughts. It's the SI column. He writes, made a really interesting point. It's going to be funny as hell to hear people fumble over talking. about this. You know, you talk about

Barras Packers' Week 2, primetime, Mike Tariko. Like, wonder if he saw the serpent. Third and ten. Like, what, how do you, like, how do you,

by the way, when you do ayahuasca, supposedly you see a lizard, I've never done ayahuasca. I'm not saying I wouldn't, you know, I've dabbled in plenty of stuff, but I haven't gone to, to ayahuasca town yet i haven't gone down to peru with a shaman i hear you puke your guts out and i hear you see a lizard i hear you see uh mother ayahuasca is what people call her people say

they they're seeing this fucking serpent i wonder if a rod saw the serpent i wonder if he saw the serpent um but honestly what he's talking about is self-love he's talking about my mental health i want to be serious about it for a second because i'm not just going to belittle a guy who's spilling his guts You know, spilling his guts, but he's opening up. Like, this is amazing to hear a guy talk about something like this. However you feel about him, you know. It's a unique position to be able to talk about it. Like, I don't think most players would feel comfortable, right?

No, I think he's put himself in a position where, you know, you look at like State Farm and people like, are they going to squirm? You know, the COVID thing didn't run him off, but will Iowa Laska run sponsors off. It's going to be a really interesting kind of fallout period here because it's going to be a topic that people are going to talk about in pop culture for sure. Like on Twitter, the memes are going to be outstanding all year long, right? But eventually people have to confront it like out in the open.

And like what is that? What is DMT? but I think that I think that what Aaron's talking about is like self-love and acceptance and if you've talked to people and I have a number of friends who have gone down to South America and done this sort of thing they really rave about it.

Now I'm not saying you should take it lightly or you should get a fucking JetBlue ticket to Peru tomorrow and hang out in the hut puking your brains out with a stranger but there is some legitimate application for this type of medicine, all the way down to, you know, mushrooms and that sort of thing. So I think psychedelics are a pretty untapped resource. And if you're looking at interesting reading on that sort of thing, how to change your mind

is an interesting book. So How to Change Your Mind is a book that I'm actually reading right now. And by reading right now, that means I listened to three chapters of the audio book like a month ago. And I'll probably do another three chapters here in about two weeks. And by the way, Huberman of Huberman Lab fame seemed to weigh in on this discussion about if you didn't read a book, you listen to a book on tape or an audiobook. Like, can you claim at a dinner party that you read a book when somebody's like, you know, 1984, you're. You read it and you're like, uh, yeah. Macon says it doesn't count.

Fuck Macon. But Huberman, on the other hand, seems to agree with Macon. That, you know, actually reading is, there's all sorts of benefits over listening. And yeah, sorry to hear I'm taking an L on that debate. But how to change your mind also, I think is a, is a, It's a series right now. You can watch it on TV. Listen, I've done mushrooms.

Mushrooms are great. They really are. If they're used responsibly, I think there are, you know, people, there's a lot of hoopla about cannabis. Okay.

I'm like, I know they're like, I'm, you know, because I smoke and I'm kind of out and open about it. And I know there are some applications to marijuana. People make a huge deal about like the therapeutic benefits of marijuana. And there are some for sure.

But a solid mushroom trip's going to change. your life. I can get you as high as I can get you as I can get you as I could get you. I take you on the back porch right now. You're not going to wake up tomorrow feeling any different. If you have one of those trips, you're not going to be the same. But what Aaron's doing is it's another level. But it's also something that a lot of people are doing now.

Like younger people that live especially in certain like kind of, I feel like regions of the country where there's more artsy folk and like, you know, kind of elevated thinking type people. You'd be hard pressed not to at least know a friend of a friend or somebody that knows somebody that's done ayahuasca at this point. Reid, do you know somebody that's done ayahuasca?

I do. I was actually in Peru on a backpacking trip and this one kid was like, yeah, I'm going to see a shaman in a week. Going to do some ayahuasca. Matt, you know anybody that's done ayahuasca? I spoke DMT, which isn't the same as ayahuasca, it was like the same chemical. And I, like, don't remember what it happened, to be honest. Did you see the geometric shapes? Yeah, I saw, like, a bunch of weird shit.

It all took, like, 15 minutes, but it felt like four hours and then it was just, like, over. See, I don't want to get a straight, you know, they DMT the death molecule. But Ayahuasca is different where I think, like, you drink it, and it takes, like, multiple days. it's a different intake. You got to hang out in the hut for a couple days. Like you do DMT. It's supposedly like it's 15 minutes, but it feels like a while. You know what I mean?

Well, you know what I mean. I didn't do it. I've seen people do it. You know, that sort of thing. I've heard geometric shapes. It sounds like to me that you do DMT and you enter like a Windows 95 screen saver. It's a totally visual trip where you enter into this like, visual universe that is different than your own.

But I wouldn't describe what you see as like a lizard necessarily, but definitely like weird geometric shapes. I just, I got one question for Aaron Rogers. Did you see the lizard? If I get a Super Bowl media pass, I'm going to go in there with a microphone, and I'm going to ask Aaron at the podium if you saw the lizard.

That's all I want to know. Did you meet Mother Ayahuasca? So all in all, all like serious here. I think this is really cool. I think it's cool that Aaron's talking about it. I also think it's getting kind of mainstream enough that like as we just kind of went around the room here, everybody knows somebody who's done it or, you know,

maybe you've experimented with some psychedelics before. You know how they say keep Austin weird? You're going to have to do that with ayahuasca now. You're going to have a teacher that says like keep ayahuasca weird. Like all the shamans are going to be like, fuck. and Aaron Rogers. Like everybody's coming down here now. He's well positioned to have a leading brand of ayahuasca,

whatever goes corporate. No question. No question. You know, like do the paperwork down at some of these clinics. And now you don't even have to go to Peru. Supposed you can get a shaman in like Orange County. Get a shaman.

Yeah, you can get a Florida? It's fuck. That's not where I'm getting. Can you imagine being like, I think I'm going to do this terrifying thing that's going to change my life forever. maybe. I think I'm going to go to Florida and do that. He's obviously, I mean, I think he's in a good headspace, or at least outwardly. I mean, you know, I never want to psychoanalyze anybody to only take it at face value, but he says he's extremely happy. And I'm just imagining that like when you get the paperwork down there in Peru and they're like, who sent you? And there's like a box for like friends. Like you read about us online. And then there's like a box for like Aaron Rogers. in that fucking box, dude. There's going to be direct flights from like,

uh, from, uh, from, from, uh, from Milwaukee to Peru now. Like,

you know, like to do at least one flight down there because there's going to be a bunch of guys. Tripping balls down there in, uh, orange camo. Okay. That's enough Aaron Rogers.

Hey, dude, I approve. I bet. And if anybody's fucking getting all upset with Aaron Rogers about this, open your mind, man. Open your mind.

mind. All right. I hear tortals. Tortles is just as bad on your stomach. We take it every Sunday. All right. So I just wanted to highlight my bets. I put in a couple win totals here. I tweeted this earlier, but I'm going to pass on the Minnesota total. I don't even know what it is. I'm not, I can't root for the Vikings and I'm not going to take the under because I think they might be okay. They might be okay. And last year was a fucking white knuckle deal there. I mean, I needed every break for that under wind total to hit. Minnesota's nine win total.

Okay. Well, that's in that danger zone, dude. You know, like it takes a minute to adjust these new win totals relative to one extra game and that sort of thing. Like, that's the danger zone right there. Nine is sketch city. So I'm going to stay off of Minnesota. I'm also going to stay off of the Chargers.

I know they're going to be really good. I don't even want to profit off it. I can't, dude. I can't sit through a Chargers season with money online. Last year proved it. I'm sorry. I don't care how good I think they're going to be. I'm not betting the over.

I am betting the under on the Falcons. Okay. I put that bet in as soon as Eddie Goldman retired. Guy signed, retired 13 days later. That's a fucking red flag. there, red flag emoji. Okay. I also bet the over in the NFC South on the, the, the Saints total.

I think that James is going to have a sneaky good year now. And I think Dennis Allen's got some things figured out relative to most new head coach, which is walking into a new building. I think at the very least, people are sleeping on them. And when you look at that division with the injuries to Ryan Jensen, some of this Tom Brady drama. Carolina's not great. You're also talking about, you know, Atlanta, who I just mentioned, there's going to be

some wins for you. They might be able to steal, you know, a win against the Buccaneers. Lord knows they played, played those guys as tough as anybody the last couple of years. So when you look at New Orleans, tough place to play, a guy who's sat a year, who's had an opportunity to learn. And I don't know if Vegas is taking the Dennis Allen experience factor. no count. So give me New Orleans, be over on that one. And what did I say? Houston, okay? Houston. Houston, that number is low. Maybe Davis Mills is supposed to hook me here. And they're even worse than we

think they're going to be. But I got to feel like this team is going to win six games. Maybe more. In fact, I think they're going to win more. And I think they're a Super Bowl contender. I agree with Chris Collinsworth because Chris Collinsworth said tonight during the Hall of Fame game that 13 teams in the AFC are Super Bowl contenders and I want to do the math real quick. There are 16 teams in the AFC. So it's more interesting to figure out who he was saying is not a Super Bowl contender. So shall we do that exercise, gentlemen? Yes. Okay. Let's start with the Jets. Okay. Maybe we should start with Pittsburgh. There's not a quarterback on that roster.

Not with the fucking steel curtain defense. Do I think they're winning a Super Bowl? Okay. And I know somebody's going to get mad about that. I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah. So you've got Pittsburgh.

You got the Jets. We've got to mention the Jags. It's probably too early to expect them to win a Super Bowl. Even with Douggy P. down there. Okay. So that's three, right? For home. Who's replacing the

Mills Mafia. Nobody, dude. So he agrees with me. He counts the Houston Texans as a Super Bowl contender. And I just want to thank Chris Collinsworth right here on the Greenlight Pod for the audacity and the bold spirit necessary to let that take fly on the biggest stage in football, the Hall of Fame game. Don't think I didn't notice that, Chris. I did the math. You think the Houston Texans are a Super Bowl contender. And after talking to Lovie Smith for 30 minutes the other day, I have to agree.

Okay. I might, I would go play for the Texans this year. If the Texans need me, they can call me. Do you think it's like the long neck solidarity? It might be the long neck thing, Matt. It might be, you know, it's because Chris's neck is kind of long. That's a good point. His neck is really long.

maybe he's looking at Davis Mills and being like, man, I wish I had some girth. Like, that's the type of guy that can win a Super Bowl, you know? So Mills Mafia, I wish we'd have gotten lovely to tell us how wide his neck is. He has to know. They had to, like, fit him for a collared shirt or something, fit him for like a fucky. When he goes into Joseph A bank, everybody, they get the yardstick out. You know, the yardstick that actually would have taped, the longer tape measure read. The three-foot tape measure.

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I always tell the story in 2011, two CBAs ago when I was a wee lad and saw the Hall of Fame game on our schedule for the upcoming August, which is, of course, an extra football game and no real draw to it. You got to play five games in preseason, and we don't get some type of competitive advantage or extra money here. Come on. I know the Hall of Fame's cool and everything, but not many of us are going there. I mean, this is fucked up. This is like a catch and release situation. You know, like I got to go and get reminded of all the people that are better than me at football and play football for free, essentially, in August. I mean, these guys just started practicing like a week ago to go from where they were day one of camp to the hall of fame game in a week is insanity like it's like going

from zero to 200 miles an hour so the quality of play isn't great it's really anybody's guess who's going to be playing right because usually in the preseason it kind of goes like week one two three four um although i did see that starters are going to play week one somewhere uh i don't know where I saw that maybe in Chicago or something to that effect. But I'd hate to be a player on a team that gets the memo that, like, the starters are going to play week one. Hall of Fame game, you really don't know what the cadence is going to be. It's a mixture of guys that are going to play a lot.

Guys that aren't. You saw Brandon Jacobs or Brandon Jacobs, Josh Jacobs. Let me tell you something about Brandon Jacobs. That's a big motherfucker. Had to tackle him a few times. You want to talk about, you know, you just tell you get your pad level down on a tackle. I'll get my pad level down at Brandon Jacobs is coming through August. There's one place I'm hitting that guy, the knees.

I'm not taking that joker on high at all. He's about 6-4-250. But Josh Jacobs was in there a while. You saw you got to look at Trayvon Walker. You know, you've got to look at Trayvon Walker, the first play. And I love this. Nothing like making your presence known in the NFL like getting a rough in the pass or penalty the first play.

You know what you got to do to get a ruffing the passer penalty? you got to get there. And so kudos to Trayvon Walker. Fuck it. Start your career with a fucking 15-yarder. I love it. He had a sack. He mixed it up a little bit.

He got involved in the run game. I said this about Trayvon Walker. And Reed, you can police my take because I've kind of fluctuated a little bit with these defensive ends in this class. I feel like I've said this about Trayvon. He might have the best longest career.

you know I don't know about like a 20 sacks season but this guy's guaranteed to play a long time because he's just a stud he's got the measurables of an NFL defensive end he's got the measurables of a guy you know as Daniel Jeremiah was talking about tonight like a lot of guys you anticipate you anticipate they look big in college and then they get on a pro pro field and they don't look as imposing. Trayvon Walker looked big on the football field night, like with NFL players. The cat, he was going against with 6-7, okay, for scale.

I mean, that was the Raiders right tackle, I believe, last year. This kid's big. The only thing I worry about him ever is going to be pad level against guys that are a bit of a matchup problem and then finishing. We talked a lot about the way he finished in college. I wasn't a great tackler. It's something to work on for him. I mean, even his sack tonight, he kind of was like,

damn, I got to get this guy down. Like, they almost blew it dead. And then in the run game, he had a nice jab and swim backside, ran the running back down in the hole, but just kind of flew by him. I have a feeling he's going to be very disruptive. Even if he doesn't make a bunch of big plays, I mean, he made some big plays tonight. He's going to affect the game. But the question is always going to be for Jacksonville.

can he convert enough of that disruption into cold hard stats to justify being picked first overall? But I really like where this kid starts. I don't think he was, I mean, the one thing we wondered with him was could he rush the edge? So it's nice to see him push the pocket, that sort of thing. He's not going to be able to do that to everybody. He's a big strong sucker, but I don't know that he's going to be able to do it to everybody. So he just needs to work his toolbox out there. My first preseason game as a three four defense event going through a little bit of what Trayvon Walker went through.

I had never played four three base downs. So on first and second down converting pass rush, all that stuff was a little foreign to me. Even the transition on third down was tough when you play a four eye a lot. He's played up and down the line. It's good to see him get these reps out at end. And, you know, so I'm standing up tonight. That was cool. He looked pretty comfortable.

So good for him, good night for him. Juxtaposed to, you know, Tibado, who hasn't played a snap yet, and I've been high on, you know, that look, that eyeball test that Daniel Jeremiah talked about. The thing I said the other day was I'm watching, you know, NFL network and I'm like, this kid doesn't look real big. Took me five seconds to realize 44 has got a pro body, dude. He is a big joker. And a big shout out to Mark Davis real quick before the first lady's draft. here. I mean, Mark Davis, nobody owns more white suits. Nobody's richer. The guy's got fucking money hit away places. I mean, he he forgets about money laying around in his house.

Dude, he's got he's got cash, but he's not above eating some chicken wings in can. And I love that for him. I love that about him. I love the boldness of eating chicken wings with a white suit on. and not being afraid that you got a little bit on your hand. And then you go back to get your white dinner jacket that's draped over your chair and you get a little bit of like, I don't like a little bit of seasoning on there, a little bit of sauce, worse yet. He's got confidence. He's not worried about it.

He's the one owner I would want to party with. Lives in Vegas. I mean, think about this guy's got more money than God, right? You got to, you own an NFL team, but you're willing to eat some chicken wings. I do think that this guy probably rolls up. to a BW3 every once in a while and just eat some fucking wings in the corner, watching ball.

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We're going to nail these first ladies. We're going to nail this, dude. Ha-ha. I got the first pick. Yeah, and this is like winning the lottery. Four times over. Yeah. Kind of takes a little pressure off me

Because I don't have to make this pick With her politics I really just didn't want to Yeah With the number one pitch You didn't hear about what She got canceled recently She had a really bad take

Going with Nancy Reagan Wow You're not going to deter me No amount of off the field issues Can deter you No Marrying Ronald Reagan. Nope.

Starting the war on drugs. Throat goat. I guess she did read to some kids and shit. Yes, she did. Somewhere along the line. Mr. T. That's right, Mr. T. I just didn't, I didn't imagine Mr. T.

The fact that Mr. T, like, he was, that was his dear friend, man. You know, how about Ronald Reagan and, like, a White House correspondence, Center like and Mr. T's there how uncomfortable of a like not probably not uncomfortable probably probably funding the trip if you think about it's like that absolutely you think it was a cuckled absolutely and that's why he started the war on drugs cuckled maybe yeah interesting that's very interesting this is you might have cracked the code no you might have cracked the code and put that evil on me rickie bobby i'm not floating Ronald Reagan can conspiracies, but that's an amazing stroke of luck for you to get Ronald Reagan's wife,

Nancy Reagan. Number two, I'm going to go Betty Ford. She had a CB radio and her handle was Big Mama. She always wore a mood ring. She gave her husband's concession speech. Moot ring. Yeah, mood ring. Would it change?

Do you think? It did. It was an accurate one. She told an interviewer that reporters had asked her, everything but how often I sleep with my husband. If they had asked me that, I would have told them as often as possible. Wow, they had a lot of sex. Mm-hmm.

Okay. And she said, I would give my life to have Jerry, her husband, have my polling numbers because it was infamous that she pulled higher than Gerald Ford. Oh, then she had that five. Yeah. She had that fired. There were, uh, you were talking about that. Yeah.

There were pins made saying, uh, Betty Ford had that fire. That said Betty's husband for president. Oh, wow. She had that snapper. That snapper, as we would say. Yeah. And that whole rehabilitation center too.

It's pretty cool. Holy shit, guys, right? Betty Ford Center for the Treatment of Clinical Dependency. Yep. She also had an open-mindedness on marijuana. What a woman, dude. What a woman, dude. She supported women's rights and was outspoken in support of drug treatment.

and abortion. You know, I just want to say this as I was doing some research by that, I mean, Googling facts about First Ladies. I came to the conclusion that we'd be a lot better off if most of these women actually

were the leaders of the free world. Yeah, for sure. I mean, it's a low fucking bar, but my goodness, there were some really amazing people. I'm up. Betty Ford won the Presidential Medal of Freedom, too. Not to be overlooked.

Was it fixed? Was she sleeping with the person that gave her the presidential medal of freedom? Well, sometimes those medals are a little bit fixed. If you look at party politics, like it was George H.W. Bush, who I don't think she was sleeping with, but they had the same politics. Hmm. Hmm. Makes me feel like Brian Winhorse right now. That's not the question we should be asking. What's going on in the Ford, Howell? My pick. The fuck is her name. man I really learned a lot about this first lady too I'm gonna find it yeah here she is Eleanor Roosevelt first pick great one she was not only she was legitimately a pretty good person great person you know she she went to bat for women

and minorities and she wanted us to join the UN okay of course she was on my big board uh well I damn near took her off when I found out that she married her fifth cousin I don't feel about that You got to deal with that She's white How do you feel about it? I'm saying how do we feel about You know the fact that we

You picked her I just said she was on my board I looked past that You look past a lot of stuff with Nancy Reagan Holy shit That's not good Nancy Reagan Is easy on my pick

Right Nate's a single issue voter But I'll tell you Eleanor Roosevelt She is like the She's like the Bill Russell of like when you read all her her accolades she was on the board of the director board of directors on the NAACP uh she was the first chairman of the UN rights commission which is crazy i mean just it's so cool

and then she'll draft the universal declaration of human rights in 1999 she was the she was ninth in the top 10 of gallops list of most widely admired people of the 20th century you don't get on that fucking list just being anybody that's right her house is really cool too they're they're they're the Roosevelt property. Round two, Nate, you're up. Really should have been number one, but since I wanted to snatch Nancy first,

I'm going with Michelle Obama because she is the first black first lady. So just that alone, but they're up there. And then she's helping, she tried to help our obesity issue. Yeah, childhood obesity.

So let's move campaign. Let's move. Yep. Also, a Harvard-educated lawyer, highly successful in her own right. Yeah. Yeah, and really fucking likable. Like, America loves Michelle Obama. If she would run.

You and Michelle Obama have something in common. You both went on the Ellen show. Yeah, we did. Look at that. Yeah, I went on the Ellen show. She's been on it like a couple times. I did not know I was there. I was like, anyways.

You wore a nice suit. I did it was green. Number two, I'm going to go Abolns. Abigail Adams. She has a distinction of being the first second lady of the U.S. and the second first lady of the United States. Say that one more time. She is the distinction of being the first second lady of the United States and the second first lady of the United States. Because her husband was the vice president and then won the president. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, because somebody got, somebody got capped.

No, they John Adams. He won the next. He was the vice president and then won. Okay, got it, got it. Man, I'm still hung up on that fucking, uh, what do you call? that like an anagram or something what you just did with my brain? I guess so. Spoke. Yes, I spoke. Yeah, he spoke. Twisted it a pretzel.

Read talk. Yeah, read talk. I'm up? Fuck yeah. She fell to me. Francis Cleveland. Francis Cleveland. There it is.

There it is. Francis Cleveland. She was young, gentlemen. She was 21. She was only 21. When she went to the White House. She actually gave birth in the White House. She was such a boss. She just had a kid in the White House.

And then she was like a pop culture, like icon. I say this all due respect, but Francis Cleveland had ass. She had cakes. She had a caboose on her. She had cakes. If you look up some of the pictures of Francis Cleveland, she was working with a mini fridge. Wow. Also, she was down, dude.

She was down. She was down, dude. Because what's his name? Grover. Grover, Cleveland. Yeah, he was 27 years old. So naturally he got cancer like early on in the game when when he was president They took a piece of his jaw out for you know mouth cancer and she didn't tell anybody she just fucking

threw away the key on that little secret there she was down so yeah Francis Cleveland I like that pick a lot one of the first like kind of like celebrities in the United States to be hounded by paparazzi and things of that nature Although you criticize Nate for Nancy Reagan's politics Francis Cleveland advocated against women's suffrage Well, that's her opinion And also it was Nancy Reagan was 1990 bro

You can't get out of this one dude No one's gonna feel like damn he picked Francis Cleveland Everybody was a shit bag back that dude But yeah she wasn't real good on that that issue Round three Nate Glad we've come around. Round three. And if we're talking about down first ladies,

I'm going to go with Jackie Kennedy. She was super down. She let him have side checks. Well, also, too, is that it? She refused to take off the dress after her husband was assassinated to show media

and to show the world, like, what, like, whoever did this, this is what, like, these monsters did. Super down. And then after he was dead, She actually wanted Emmy for working on biopics all about JFK. So until she died, she held a job just promoting her husband. She probably should have gone sooner, especially when you see the movie.

Chappaquitic. Have you seen that movie? Boy, that's a, the family. She also won an Emmy. Did she really? Yes, she did. She should have gone sooner, you know? I'll say that.

You said, what did these monsters do? Two shooters? JFK? Check behind the grassy knoll. Yeah, right? Oh, no. I want them to see what they've done to Jack. They?

Yeah. Maybe she met them, the mob. Was that where you're going with, Matt? That is what I believe to have happened. Yeah. The, like, South Florida mob, like, Santo Traficante, I think is his name. Damn, dude. There's a lot of weird connections with, like, the Florida mob, Dallas mob, and stuff.

happening in Cuba but Jackie O is also a great pick because she was fuck if he lived in America today that's like every other day thing you see your head blown off in traffic yeah unfortunately I mean he could have just been cut somebody off in traffic you know she could ride horses she ride horses yeah she was an equestrian okay that's good you like that's good actually I feel like we let that one slip from our big board over here I'll go number three Dolly Madison she is there's another age difference 17 years. She saved all the White House furniture and porches during the war of 1812. This was on my list too. Yeah, and she also served

as Thomas Jefferson's White House hostess after Thomas Jefferson's wife passed away when he was president. And what she she's credited with a hosting a lot of bipartisan parties at the White House, which hadn't been popular. dollar i just these we've got so many presidents and there's so few hot firsts like we've been doing this for 250 years there are so few hot first ladies

sorry reed it's a great pick bipartisan stuff well it's you know it's hard to portray beauty in a painting you know you're right about that so a lot of these you know ones we and even a couple of these The photography wasn't, the technology for their photography at the time wasn't, hadn't come along.

Spelled it Dolly, D-O-L-L-E-Y. Mm-hmm. A, yeah, there's an A on the end, too. What are five facts about Dolly Madison? I said. I'll tell you. I'll give you five. Matt, do you like this pick?

Not especially, but I mean, we are down to the 10th pick. Okay, 10th pick. Whose pick is it? Now it's the Dr. Fax? No, I think it's you. Oh, fuck. Sorry,

ninth pick. First lady generator. You know what? I think, if I read this correctly, I don't want to draft Andrew Jackson's wife, but Andrew

Jackson's wife was kind of like, I'm going to go with the theory that she was kind of like the glue gal and she got tuberculosis while he was president and lost her hold on him. And then you have the trailer tears and a bunch of stuff

because he was a total shit bag. And she was like a band-aid on a fucking mortal wound. And she just fell off because she had tuberculosis. What would America have been like had she not gotten TB? She was probably a shit bag too. Are you trying to pick Andrew Jackson's wife? I'm not going to. Okay, because I think she died before he was president.

That's what I mean. She got tuberculosis. She's never really first lady, though. You're right. But I do want to say, I want to send a special shout out to her. She could be listening. All right. Sarah Polk, man.

I don't know much about her, but she was a secretary to her husband for free, which means she was an enormous cock block. And I respect the fuck out of that. There was no Monica Lewinsky going on when James Polk was president. That's right. She was super high. She was very highly educated for her time and she helped James Polk with his speeches

They probably just speech writing. Probably just role played a lot. James Polk looks like an absolute motherfucker to live with. Hold on a second. Not even the White House would, I mean like you wouldn't feel safe living with this motherfucker. He's the guy that invaded Mexico. I mean, it tells you all you need to know. James Polk is

Another one do that No he was just gonna He was gonna nuke Cartels Is that a mullet? It's a skullet Dude He's damn near

James Polk was a wild boy Dude Is the last pick He just did a lot of grunting Until she came along And then she helped him She helped him talk good Fourth round

Here we go I'm wrapping this up With Marilyn Whitmore no one knows what that is is Thomas Whitmore's wife in Independence Day. You keep doing this Independence Day thing.

Played by Mary MacDonald and in the movie she was a great first lady. Yeah. And the people loved her. And in the movie she was saved by a stripper who was played by Vivica Fox.

Oh. Hot Vivica Fox, 90s. You may or may not have drafted in the 90s babe or nostalgic babe draft. You know, I had to throw a curb all in there for you guys. That's a great pitch, Nate. Because you said, like, you know, you got to, when you get the directions to some of these things, you got to try to pick holes. And if they're not going to be fine-tuned, I feel like there's open-ended ways.

I think that was brilliant. Yeah. You're like one of those revolutionary teams in, like, NBA that sees some type of inefficiency and then everybody's copying them. I promise you, these guys are looking at... Yeah, I'm looking at ways right now, I'm like, what kind of president? If you got the right team, you get his running gun.

Yeah. No defense. There's like a D2 school that does that. You're running the wildcat right now. They just run down the court and they shoot threes. And if you get long rebounds, you pass it back out, you shoot. Yep. Running gun.

You're running and gunning. Now I have to think of another first lady. And I'm going with Abigail Fillmore. She was her husband's teacher at the New Hope Academy. They were two years apart. She taught him in school. Wow. Wow.

Pretty cute. She also helped create the White House library. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. She taught him. How does that work? She was his teacher. How many years apart were they? Two.

But how was she the teacher? She's a smart lady. Skip school, became a teacher. That's interesting. I like Mary Lincoln. I know nothing about her, but she seems like she was a train wreck from this... V-Muched train wreck.

Yeah, Abraham Lincoln's wife was the first to hold seances in the White House to be attacked in the press for lavish purchases during wartime and to fight for the abolition of slavery, which is good. That's good. The last thing is good. We know that. But the lavish purchases,

so when Lincoln would go off, you know, to war during the Civil War, she was just running it up, dude. She was just, his Amex was, he's getting notifications left and right. Hey, you gotta, Amazon, what's in the boxes? That's kind of like, what's in the box. It's kind of like hedging your bets if you think about it. What is? Like, just spending money because worst case scenario, he's not coming back and the well

might dry it. You're right. You need to get what you can. And or you don't know what's going to happen. You're the first lady. They might run you out. You don't know. That did kind of come true.

It came true. because he didn't come back from the, you know. All those Chanel bags make you feel better because they busted a cap in his ass too. Reed busted a cap in his ass. That's right. So I'll say Mary Lincoln. And also, seance is holy crazy. That's not too crazy.

Because back there, they say seance. If you had some sage, that's a seance. If I bring some sage in here and wave it around and light it bro, some people will be like, oh, they're having to seance. No, I think she, people at the time thought she was crazy. Yeah. Traditionally in historical records, she was rated very low on the list of first ladies. But I draft her because it's good to have like a crazy first lady on the team.

Interestingly, Abraham Lincoln's first political rival was this guy named Stephen Douglas, and they were both courting Mary Todd. There you go. I remember this now. We're getting political here. Very Todd. We're getting political. Political.

Political. Political facts. I like it. We're talking about the just the throws of passion. That's what happened. Abe Lincoln. He stole her away from Stephen Douglas, the first

Simp in American politics Damn, took a big L, got cucked by the man with the top hat You win some, you lose some He lost him But you live He took a second L in the election of 1860 Did he really? Yes Yeah, he lost him for the Congress race in 1856

And then lost him for the presidency in 1860 Holy shit that might be one of the worst rivalries of all time. Mortal enemies. What do you think he said when he got, when he got capped? You think when he got the news, he was like, he didn't say much? You know, like,

sorry to hear that. Or did he send a fucking raven to marry Lincoln? Yeah, I mean, maybe he saw it as an opportunity to be there to, like, console her. I don't know. Interesting, man. History is interesting. We should just talk about history.

Tell us about something, Matt. He was actually dead first. He was dead. Yeah, 1861 is when he died. So he didn't even get to see Lincoln die? Yeah. Oh my God, this guy. Talk about a one-sided rivalry.

Talk about a Highlander situation. Those two are still, they're throwing bows in the afterlife, dude. Those two are, yeah, fuck, dude. Mary Lincoln. Misses Irrelevant. He was struck by illness. in May of 1861 and confined to his bed. Surprisingly wasn't struck by lightning.

What kind of life he had. He didn't even get beat out, so history doesn't even look upon you favorably. It's not like Andrew Jackson beat you out and people like, damn, that would have been cool if Andrew Jackson won the thing. History didn't win the thing. It doesn't look favorably at Stephen A. Douglas

because he was like the northerner that supported slavery. You asked for historical fact. Abe Lincoln's first vice president's first name was Hannibal. Abe Lincoln's vice president's Vice President, Hannibal. Yeah, in his first term.

Hannibal Hamlin. Oh, H.H. A double H. Here's a presidential fact. John Tyler has a grandson who is still alive. What? So John Tyler, who was born in 1790,

had a, he had a son who was born in 1853, and his son was born in 1928. John Tyler grandson. Jesus Christ, there's no pictures of John. When you said that, you sound like the Russell. He's 93. The rest book, um, GIF. When you ask a reporter, what?

What? I mean, that's insane to think about. Hey, let me ask you something. When a president needs to get drunk in the 1800s, were they drunk like all the time, Matt? They had massive parties at the White House in the 1800s. You mentioned Andrew Jackson earlier. His inauguration was called the biggest party in the history of Washington where they did massive damage to the White House, all kinds of stuff.

Do you think that they were drunk like every night? Because if I was, if I lived, definitely depends on the president. Who do you think was the biggest alcoholic? Garfield, probably. Let me see the facts about Garfield's wife. Did I draft her? Yeah, I did. Lucretia.

No, I tried to draft her. You tried to draft her, then change your mind. Yeah, well, because she didn't nurse him back to life. So she's off the big board. She couldn't save him. Well, he was suffering withdrawals that whole time. Yeah. I just wonder what happens when your shit-faced is the president.

And they come to you with some, like, really emergent stuff. So T.J. supposedly was a drunk president. Yeah, well, he made decisions. Also, apparently was a, like, does smoke a little bit? Smoke a little smoke. Smoke a little smoke. I wonder if you ever smoked a little smoke on the Rivana. I would imagine he did

Now French vino I mean that makes sense Motticello He was posted up He went drinking wine He actually went broke trying to create a French style vineyard here in Charlottesville Like he put all of his money and resources Into trying to create wine like they did in France

And could never recreate it There was some Farmington tie in with that deal The Farmington Country Club was designed by him In part to pay a debt for something I can't remember exactly Yeah the fucking actually the largest sale in history of a bottle of wine it's highly debated whether it's real or not or if it's forgery but is like jefferson wine from monticello from the 1700s no way

sold for several million dollars holy shit yeah i wonder why he's he just seemed like a real asshole i could say a lot of negative things wah whoa guys wah whoa well listen It's kind of weird that the last two presidents are teetotolers, people that do not drink. Oh. Biden doesn't drink? Nope. Trump, yeah, he has this weird thing. Well, yeah, he'd be so dead if he drank.

His brother did die from alcoholism. Yeah, he'd be so dead. Because, yeah, got an addictive personality, you can tell. And then on top of that, he's not in great health. So imagine you threw that on top of everything. All right. Sweet. Who won the draft?

Did anybody Oh, Nate one? Nate one. You won the draft. Where did he really pull away? Well, honestly, his last pick of Marilyn Whitmore, which was like not something I was thinking in my mind, but that was brilliant. And Jackio, Jackio is a great thing.

That's the pick. She wouldn't have been my first pick, so getting her in the third round. Half of this is just luck you inherited Nancy Reagan. It's not, it's not luck. Yeah, it is a lottery, dude. Nope. Because if I did, I would have made it. I made Reed's pick.

I had Reed's pick on here too. You know what? She saved shit from a fire, but it's, yeah, it's kind of, it's kind of ify too. She saved another dude's pitcher.

She's saved George Washington's pitcher. She's saved George Washington's pitcher. You're going to feel really, you're not going to feel real good about it when another book comes out. And somebody's like, no, Nancy Reagan was not that good. She was biting it.

They haven't done it yet. You picked based on Mr. Tees's testimony. They're cloud chasing. You overlooked so much. If they, if they do, they're clout chasing at this.

point okay the story's already out there or is out there you're just so upset you didn't get to pick her it's all good i really don't care about this draft it's late