Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Offseason Training. Ryen Russillo, Miles Teller, & Jason Kelce join for Best Movie Reboots.

Episode Date: May 15, 2020

0:42 - Open. 2:14 - Jason Kelce talks about training in the NFL offseason. 22:42 - Movie Reboots with Ryen Russillo & Jason Kelce. 53:21 - Miles Teller joins the movie reboot convo. Sponsored by Brau...n. Go to shop.Braun.com and enter the code “Greenlight” to get10% off your order. Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. 🌍🏀🏈SUBSCRIBE NOW ⚾🏒⛰️ http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I don't think Jason Kelsey of the Philadelphia Eagles and Ryan Rusillo of the Ringer and of a gym near you had ever met before. But here we are on the airwaves. Guys, welcome to Greenlight Pod. Thanks for having me, brother. Good to meet you, Ryan. Yeah, absolutely. This is great. I'm fired up.
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Starting point is 00:01:16 looking good like Jason Kelsey. This is fun. This is a this is a power trio. A couple of friends of the program here and this is terrific. I honestly couldn't think of two guys to do this exercise better unless I had hit up somebody who's actually like been in a movie to be on the pot. I thought about getting Miles Teller on here. You guys both know Miles. Friend of the program, but I didn't want to be intimidated by his movie acumen. He might judge some of our ideas. We should just give him the Zoom link now then. If you guys blitz zoom them, Yeah. Because I think, yeah, I mean, you guys, every now and then when you get the text, you're like, oh, this is pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Miles Teller is texting me right now. But if he gets it from two Eagles, it might be worth it. Yeah, if this top guy ever comes out, it's pretty fucking cool. He might be recasting some of these things that we're doing here. Exactly. You know what? I'm going to text Miles to see how much he really likes us, and maybe he'll drop in at the end. So let's talk football real quick before we get into the other stuff because this is supposed to be a football pot.
Starting point is 00:02:19 I barely ever talk football. I was talking to you, Jace, about this. I think you and I have a lot in common about the way we look at life being more important than football. I don't think all got, we eat, sleep, breathe football, but there's more to life to it. And now more than ever, there's way more to life than football. And you're sitting there, you're staring down the barrel of a season that may or may not happen. It may or may not happen on time. You don't know if you'll play with fans in the stands.
Starting point is 00:02:46 like how hard is it to train for that season? Because as a player, I needed certainty. We're like really wired for a routine. And you don't have that routine right now. You're away from your teammates. You know, you don't know if the season is going to happen. When it's going to happen? What's it like right now?
Starting point is 00:03:03 Yeah, I mean, well, you get the nail on the head with routine. That's probably the biggest thing. That's a big change. You know, you're used to waking up, getting to the facilities at this time, eating your breakfast at this time, lifting at a specific time. and all of that's really been, you know, it's on the player to designate when all that's happening. Now, we still do have set lift times, but it's much more kind of on your own. And to be honest, it's been, it's gone really well.
Starting point is 00:03:31 It's gone way better than I thought it was going to. A lot of guys have tuned into the workout, the vast majority of guys, so that at least they're getting workouts in, even though it's hard to find facilities for some people. but, you know, and for me selfishly, I kind of love that I'm not doing OTAs in mini-camps this year. Like, I don't know if it's going to get let up in a month, but like, I like that I'm able to just lift and get in the optimal physical shape. Like, I don't need to hit the Crowler sled right now. I don't need to do sets. I need to try and get my hips, everything stronger, and everything set up for the season.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And so I think for some of the older guys, this is actually going to end up being pretty, pretty great for their careers, to be honest with you. Oh, it's money for the older guys. We lose, like, OTA is a minicam. For people listening, it's not like we don't want to work older guys. It's just that, like, you know, you're out there running in the summer sun all day long with guys who are just learning the things that you've known for years. And your body is taking a toll on because you have to facilitate the learning process of those younger guys. That's what the reps are for. I mean, there are people who are new in the summer.
Starting point is 00:04:47 So, I mean, that stuff can wear on you. I mean, it puts, it takes tread off the tires. And it just detracts, like, we only run in condition for the first two weeks. And the rest of it, you're out there with the coaches and you're running through plays. And there's an advantage to doing that. But I really think for especially older guys, being in peak optimal, like, conditioning going into the season is probably better selfishly for that. But like you said, the other aspect of the importance of OCHI's and mini-cans is really just being together as a team and in developing camaraderie cohesion, young guys getting new plays that they've never done, free agents, learning new systems. But for the guys that have been there, the older guys, you're kind of establishing the culture and the feel of what it is to be for me an Eagle.
Starting point is 00:05:37 And that's what we're missing, but everybody's kind of missing that. So that's kind of a wash, unfortunately. Yeah, it can be hard. I know we have everything we need at the facility over the summer, and you've got a great program. You've got great strength coaches. Shout out to my man, Keith Gray, my dog. Big Keith.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Yeah. I think he's a friend of the program. So Keith's the man. But, you know, the hard part is everything's so condensed so you can get a bunch of things done during the day. Like your lift, you rush in, you lift. You know, for older guys, they need a very specific warm up. It's hard.
Starting point is 00:06:13 You know, maybe you want to do some things on your own. And the Eagle staff is very accommodating, but still, to do the things that are, you know, design specifically for you, it's hard to get that done in a very, like, in mass kind of streamlined process over the summer. And that's a very key time period. If you're spending six to eight hours at the facility in the summer, which I was on a lot of days, even OTA days, I'd stay and sit around and do it. extra work. Only two to three of them were really productive hours for me. So you're wasting
Starting point is 00:06:44 a lot of time as an older player. So in a sense, you could get ahead relative to your normal summer. Exactly. Yeah, it's impossible for a strength coach to try and facilitate an all-season program that is the best optimal thing for every player. Could you, could you, these X's and those meetings with, uh, with Stout and shit like that, is Lane behaved? We actually haven't, We've had the older guys haven't started doing that yet. We start that up in a couple weeks. He's just on young developmental guys. But to answer your question, Lane will not be behaved whenever that starts.
Starting point is 00:07:18 So he's working with the hungry pups right now. And so when the hungry dogs come in, here's a little hot tip from me on the other side. You don't have to tell anybody I told you this, but you can Ferris Guller your meeting, just freeze you looking intently at Stoutland and just leave the room and do whatever you want to do. My next two of the hours, I just hope you're not called on. That's a knowing stout you're going to get called on, unfortunately. Yeah, exactly. Well, you can always blame it on the internet.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Yeah, I put my AirPods in and do something else. And then just kind of wait for that like, Kelsey, what? What was that? What you got, Roy? You talk to all the guys, your teammates with Kelsey. And obviously, Chris, you're still friends with so many guys at play. I have always had the assumption that athletes want to come back and play. I feel like it's been this weird pivot in the last few years of the way that sports are covered
Starting point is 00:08:10 where people forget that guys actually do like playing sports. You've done this your whole lives. And I know it's a grind, especially for you guys, especially football and linemen. It's not always fun, but that you like to play. And when you factor in the money, even though a lot of you guys have made a ton of money and banked it already, give us a sense of how many guys truly want to come back to play versus the guys that don't want to risk it. And I'm not saying anybody's wrong for being.
Starting point is 00:08:36 scared, but I feel like sometimes there's this vocal minority on social media that challenges any return date or suggests how dangerous this could be, which may be accurate, I don't know, versus how many guys are like, you know what? I'd rather come back and play. Like, what's that percentage based on the guys you talk to? Man, that's tough. And I think, you know, like watching what's going on with baseball, where it seems like half the guys want to play, half the guys don't want to play. It's been kind of eye-opening. that's what it seems like right and what i'm going is it actually 90% want to come back in place and lose the paycheck but it's hard to argue with the guy that's you know arguing about real health risks well i think part of it is you know depending on what media outlet you're watching uh this is completely overblown and then you watch another media outlet and it's the worst thing since the black plague so you it really depends on what you're feeding your brain And that's kind of going into guys either thinking that it's nothing
Starting point is 00:09:38 or it's making other guys super paranoid. And to answer your question, most of the guys I've talked to in specific, in particular the Eagles, are interested in playing for sure. And they want to play. But I have not done like a huge survey of that. And seeing what's going on with baseball,
Starting point is 00:09:56 I got to think that there's football players that feel the same way, to be honest with you. There's not a sport that. that is less conducive to physical distancing and social distancing than football. Like literally, you could stay six feet away all day long. The minute we have inside run,
Starting point is 00:10:16 you're essentially spitting on my face. You're breathing in the face. We're just facing. Not only that, like lockers, locker room. Okay, how are you going to do that? You want everybody to stay separate? I know you're going to test, okay? You want to test twice a week, that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:10:30 It all sounds good. It sounds airtight. You can move the whole team and their families to Texas and take over all those nice high school football facilities and move it to a state that's not as urban, you know, because there is a concern. Different cities are going to deal with different stuff. Like the jets are going to deal with something different than the Jaguars when it comes to this thing. Humidity, heat, you know, the amount of people in a city. But even if you do all that and you put all these protocols in place, you still have to trust that the families are at home observing social distancing that if there's a second surge, you know, your wife has to go to the grocery store. You know, Kylie has to go to the grocery store. You know, kids going to school. There's so many variables. Where are the doctors that come in to work every day? Are they going to the hospital? They have to do anything else. You know, they're talking about cutting the staff down a little bit. I still think it's just going to be really hard to figure out. Oh, no doubt. And I think if things remain where they're at today, there wouldn't be an NFL season. I think that everybody's kind of banking on the testing getting better and teams figuring out a way to do it in a safe and secure manner.
Starting point is 00:11:37 You know, luckily for football at least, everything is so far down the line. And far in terms of a lot of things can happen between now and then. We can, testing can improve, the number of cases for whatever reason could drop substantially to where your chances of getting it in a work environment are drastically reduced. The mortality rate will probably go way down once you have testing. I mean, there's going to be a lot more people with this thing than we think. And the NFL, you know, it's to your point, you have time to wait, you have a runway. There's other leagues that didn't have that.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Like the NBA was certainly not in the caper seat. Like, it was this domino effect where people were reacting to. other leagues. And there's no bigger league and tone setter than the NFL in the United States. Like the NFL is not going to answer to anybody. And I can promise you, they're hell-bent on having their season. I don't care how weird it gets they're going to have their season at some point. That's my thought on it. What do you think about fans in the stands? You've got to be kind of happy about that because it's a silent count. No, I hate it. I think it's going to be, terrible without fans in the stands, to be honest with you. It's going to be great for
Starting point is 00:12:44 away games. And when you're in the, and when you're in the, the red zone you can't make a call or communicate something offensively, but in all reality, it's going to feel so weird. And that energy that the fans bring, that a live crowd brings, you're not going to be able to replicate. Even if you put speakers there, it's never going to be the same. So I'm not excited. Seattle already put speakers there.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Nice little dig there. We used to think the Rams did it. in the indoor, because we're like, there's no way St. Louis. Isn't the Edward Jones, though? Yes. It used to get kind of loud in there. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Listen, per capita, it was a loud-ass place. I don't always say about St. Louis. Not the biggest market, and we sucked ass, but the fans we had were loud as fuck, and I appreciate that. New Orleans, you know, without fans, that home field advantage is going to be different. Like, certain teams are definitely going to be affected more than others.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Pat's fans always bring it, though. Pat's fans always bring it. You're right. You're right, right. And here's the, team that's not going to have to skip a beat. It's going to be the Chargers. I mean, they were going on silent count in their home stadium.
Starting point is 00:13:53 They're going to be excited. It's going to be the same thing for them. Yeah, exactly, yeah. It'll be business as usual. It actually be better for them because they won't have away teams fans there rooting against that. Yeah, Eagles fans can't take over that stadium. They were home Eagles games.
Starting point is 00:14:09 It's really tough. I mean, I'm looking at the other night, I'm looking at the schedule release show, and I know you guys watched as well. Maybe you didn't, Jace, but I watched it. And I'm just laughing because I'm saying to myself, like, they're really not going to mention the 500-pound gorilla in the room, which is COVID. And the possibility that all these shiny stadiums, you're like, you got Lewis and he's up there. And he's like, oh, yeah, you know, like, hey, so far is going to open up. This is going to be a crazy one for that.
Starting point is 00:14:35 You know, you got Dallas. You got L.A. What could be better? I'm like, well, what could be better? Maybe that game without the pandemic. I don't know if any fan are going to show up to that. And that would ironically be the one game that LA fans would show up to, the first one against the Cowboys. You don't have to show on the Rams here.
Starting point is 00:14:54 No, look, I think the Rams, the Rams, that stadium is going to be so awesome that it's an event. It's Los Angeles. There's millions of people out here. It's not going to be like, people forgot the charges were here. I think I've even said, I said San Diego numerous times. I think there was even a couple more officials that still said San Diego when they're actually calling them for a penalty. And we had fun. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:18 We would butcher it. We'd just put it on the board. We'd just put it on the board. We call them San Diego in Game Week. Right. And it's unfortunate for those guys. It's unfortunate for Chargers fans that are actually in San Diego. But as far as the Rams and SoFi, that place is going to sell out because it's an event.
Starting point is 00:15:31 It's eight home games. So it wasn't going to be as bad as the Chargers thing. But what I think of, and you're right, Jay's like I look at it going, it's going to suck for you guys. It's going to be a different product. But it's better than nothing. And when the NBA starts back up again, I know what's going to happen. And I'm guilty of it going, oh, this sucks or this isn't cool. When you're an opinion guy for your entire career, you immediately are like, all right, this is how I feel.
Starting point is 00:15:59 And a lot of the times that stuff, the instant reaction is negative. I would hope people go when they see the new version of whatever basketball is going to be where there's nobody there and it feels like a scrimmage or just a bunch of games in the same location as if it's some AAU. weekend festival that you're not tweeting or going, oh, this sucks. Because it's just not fair. People have to change their expectations of what these products look like and accept it. There's no perfect solution here, man. There's a flip side to that, Rye. And I think it's a great point.
Starting point is 00:16:32 I think anybody who complains and bitches about the NBA coming back will be out of their fucking board. I cannot for the NBA to come back if it comes back safely. I don't know how they pull it off, but I hope they do. you know i was watching ufc the other night you were live tweeting the shit out of i've never seen you tweet so much ryan in one period as like a serious non-sarcastic tweeter like you were you're this is your finest hour and and you know it was fun it gave people a different sense like i heard the punches like i really heard you know when ingano hits somebody in the face in an empty
Starting point is 00:17:04 room that you could otherwise hear the air conditioning machine turning on uh over here position you're turning on. Like, that's pretty, pretty violent. And it gives you a different look. You can hear the corner men more. Like, if it's the NBA, you're going to hear coaches. You're going to hear players talking shit. The NFL is going to be the twilight zone.
Starting point is 00:17:23 I don't know if I could play in front of no fans. I don't think it takes all the allure out of playing pro football for me. But you got to do it. Guys are still doing it. You got to do it. You got to get that money. Yeah. And like you said, I think, I think,
Starting point is 00:17:38 having football is better than no football. And if that means not having fans, we're in a much better scenario playing football. And like you said, Chris, football, in my opinion, is most tied into the fans. The fans make the biggest difference in a football game. But it will be interesting to actually hear all that stuff, especially as somebody who's been in it,
Starting point is 00:18:01 to like hear calls, to hear different, like, not just trash talk, but to hear like, you're not going to be able to hide blitz calls or like cut off game tape so that that's not being disclosed. So I wonder if teams are going to have to like change up terminology more because people are going to be hearing that on a consistent basis. Like it could kind of be a much different environment. That's why I think, you know, before we roll on to the fun part, I think this year, better coaches, more continuity, that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:18:35 experienced players, the cream will rise to the top. And there's certainly situations like the bucks are stacked. They're going to be a good football team. How long is the learning curve going to be for everybody involved? It's a new situation. Something like Indy, okay, on the surface, Philip River's new quarterback. Well, he worked with Frank Reich. How much does that help, you know, that he worked with Frank in San Diego?
Starting point is 00:18:55 You know, there's going to be a lot of situations, young quarterbacks. You know, what do you expect out of a first round quarterback this year? I don't know. It'll be interesting. I cannot wait to hear people. hear how much we get yelled at on the sidelines on national TV. That's the one thing for me that's going to be gold. You know, people thought football was hard, waiting to they hear some of the emasculating shit you hear from a coach on the sideline. Do you guys want to hear a completely
Starting point is 00:19:19 ridiculous idea I had early on that my wife had to talk me out of with this whole coronavirus thing? Yes. This is a good avenue. So keep in mind, obviously, I'm not a medical expert whatsoever. Wait, what? Yeah, right? It looked like one. By the way, for the people listening, Jason has flow on top of flow. I can't even, I've been mesmerized. I realized there was a stretch earlier. I didn't listen to anything anyone said for two something minutes because I was just looking at his font and eyebrow combo.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I don't know what the hell to do with this guy. Ryan, you reminded me of it when you were saying, like how much do some guys want to play? And early on, I remember having this discussion with some of the guys on the team and in particular my wife, who was the one who was talking sense into me about this. Because everybody's heard with the coronavirus, and this is the problem with this whole theory is it depends on who you're listening to. But the idea is if you're a
Starting point is 00:20:14 healthy person, your chances of dying or being even hospitalized from this are generally considered extremely low. So my idea was, let's just rent a hotel. The NFL rents a hotel, gets a bunch of doctors and puts them in this hotel, gets ventilated. gets all the necessary medical equipment. We put all of the players on the Eagles inside this hotel and give them coronavirus, so they build up the antibodies. And you do it in like the healthiest, most monitored, safe condition possible. And then my wife told me I was being a complete lunatic.
Starting point is 00:20:59 I don't know. This is a little princess bride. I kind of like this. I think the lead here is that you were vying to your wife to sequester yourself into a hotel without your family for the entire fall, because that's the only way that things are tight, as we mentioned. But I think that's the one thing she liked about the idea. But then again, you start doing the breakdown and you're starting to pick your teams for the week, and you're like, well, look, you've got to take the Eagles at home here. They expose themselves through it. They built up a tolerance.
Starting point is 00:21:29 that would be part of it. And there's nothing more football guy that's like, if I want to be ready week one, then I need to have the antibodies by August. Well, our boy, and you know who I'm talking about the other day, they dropped a bomb about NFL players. Why wouldn't they be willing to risk COVID? They willingly get CTE every day.
Starting point is 00:21:50 This is Revelle. Oh, is that Revelle's thing? Yeah, yeah, that good. That didn't go. Revelle's in that category of content guys that, like, he can't win. no matter what, even if he makes a good point, it's like how can I still rip him?
Starting point is 00:22:04 That's what people kind of do. But as soon as I saw that one, it was like one of these paragraphs doesn't flow. Doesn't fit with the others. Okay, so we are here to do movie reboots. And fuck the serious stuff. Fuck football. I want to talk movies.
Starting point is 00:22:22 I want to go down this rabbit hole. So this idea came to me earlier in the week, thinking about how much I wish Waterworld was getting remade. I've had the thought before. hadn't watched the movie in over a decade, went back and skimmed it, and it is not that bad. I was expecting for it to be worse.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I know Jason said that, you know, it's better than people think. I know Ryan doesn't like it very much. I'll let you guys get into that, but I want to kick this off with my number one choice, Water World. I think this would be the best remake. I got a bad rap because of the expectation. I think it was a solid movie.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I mentioned that. The genre in the time, expect? I mean, really, what do you expect from that plot? The budget was a big problem. Everybody knows $235 million. To make it? To make it. In 1995? In 95. Adjusted for currency. The budget was a problem. And it took like two years. Now, a lot of that was delays. They're doing something really ambitious. They're off the coast. Water. Yeah. By the way, the reason the budget swelled, because I'm looking at the movie and I'm like, how the fuck? Did that cost $235 million?
Starting point is 00:23:32 It's just water and scrap metal. Like, how did you spend that much money guy? Well, the problem was they used all the steel on the islands of Hawaii, the Hawaiian islands, and then had to bring more in from California. Literally, they ran out of steel in Hawaii. Now, you think about Pennsylvania, a lot of steel, Hawaii on the other end of that spectrum. So that makes sense. And they overshot the landing strip.
Starting point is 00:23:58 So people by the time it came out were like, I fucking hate this movie. Actually, it broke even in 2009 I read when it came out on Blu-ray for the record. What? No way. Yes. For the water world haters, it eventually broke even, which is a miracle. I don't even know if I believe that. Was that backed up?
Starting point is 00:24:16 It's backed up by the internet. You know, like the problem was, and obviously it has a Mad Max tie, same cinematographer. I'm looking at the reboot, I'm thinking, okay, well, you don't want to do a reboot of Waterworld too close to the reboot of Mad Max, which I thought was good, but not as much as everybody thought. Same cinematographer.
Starting point is 00:24:37 And admittedly, that movie took a lot of elements. So that's like the hopper scene on the ship with all the people like, you know, the dirty-ass ocean people, the smokers. That's what they call them. The smokers. The smokers. That's right.
Starting point is 00:24:51 The smokers. So there's a lot of Mad Max, but the problem was it was the right idea, a wrong guy. Kastner, very dry. I get it. I'm not a huge Kossner fan. I like some of his stuff. Yeah, but back then, that's your go-to. He's like Gosling and DiCaprio in it, just a burrito. Yes, it was. It was. He reeled off movie after movie in the early 90s, but if you notice, he never really got back on the horse when it came to this type of movie after Waterroll. It kind of, no pun intended, sunk him, and it all came down to him and the director,
Starting point is 00:25:21 weren't getting along. I think the guy's name I ever written down here, because he's hasn't done a lot of stuff. He did Count of Monte Cristo. He worked on Robin Hood with Kevin Costner. Kevin Reynolds, they never got along. Here's what they were disputing. That Kevin Reynolds thought he should be very minimalist, very stripped down the character.
Starting point is 00:25:41 And Costner thought he should be more squash-buckling. I don't even know how to say that word. Swashbuckling. Aral Flynn. Yeah. Yeah, like high boots. Barnacles and, yeah. Yeah. Like yells a lot.
Starting point is 00:25:55 A lot of one-liners. I think the director was right, but let's get the guy who can pull it off. And that's Ryan Gosling. You mentioned him. There's a couple parallels here. The entire movie, do you know? Gossler's too young then.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Gosling now. I'm talking about if the reboot happens now. Let's get it right. We get Gosling. Gosling and Drive. What was his name? Do you all know? I don't remember because it was so not important.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Driver. And what was Kevin Costner's name in Waterworld? Mariner. Oh, all right. Yes, perfect. It all works. I'm lost. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Don't be. It's not that. Don't be it. You pair Ryan with the guy who did, you pair Ryan with the guy who did Blade Runner 2049. His name is Dennis Villain Wave. He's the guy who did the Blade Runner reboot. More dark, more psychological.
Starting point is 00:26:49 He did Sicario. He did Prisoners. He did Enemy. He's doing Dune, by the way, in 2012. All right, so first of all, I mean, this guy is amazing. Okay, Prisoners is, I think, one of the most underrated, like, best movies the last, I don't know what the parameters here, 20-something years, because you're kind of like, how are you going to end this where it's not like every other thing
Starting point is 00:27:11 where it's like you had this idea, but how are you really going to execute the ending, whereas where most movies fail and Prisoners Delivers Big Time. Sicario is incredible. I have some awesome facts that I was able to attract. but I can't share here on just how they shot a lot of that stuff. Inside baseball. Yeah. The meeting went so well with the Sicario producer that I couldn't.
Starting point is 00:27:34 I almost felt like we were doing a podcast because I was just geeking out about the movies that he's produced. And we were just talking about something else. And you got some inside baseball. I got some inside stuff, but I can't. He never told me whether or not I could share it. I was telling him, like, we should just do that again and tape it and turn to a podcast. All right. So first of all, the fact that you nailed the director part, the gosling is all.
Starting point is 00:27:55 in. I heard this story about Gosling where there was actually a fight outside of a club and like he broke it up. Like I don't know if he actually even had to beat up the guys, but may have like grabbed two dudes while he was the girl and just said, hey, I know how are you? No word. Like, it's like, are you actually driver? Like he don't look at. Right. And he's also sort of a badass. The place beyond the pines, which is incredible in that. I mean, he's, he's the best. And there's no reason you should be afraid of Gosling from a physical standpoint. Like, I can beat his ass with my eyes. close. He's half my size. No disrespect him. He's one of my favorite actors. But he's scary because
Starting point is 00:28:30 he's got that quiet thing going on. And I think you'd be perfect. I think you, Lauren Cohen from the Walking Dead, lover in anything, anything she's in. I'm there for it. She could be the girl. Anola was the little girl who, by the way, is 35 right now, which is fucking terrifying. That's crazy. She was the girl with Tolian Dynamite. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. I got Lauren Cohen. I got Woody Harrelson being Dennis Hopper's character. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Woody, you can put in anything. That guy's great. That's what she said. Yeah. No, I got a ladybone card right now. What, uh, is that weird? All right. Hey, I'm not a fan of Ryan Gosling.
Starting point is 00:29:13 I'm not a fan. Whoa. Off the top. Not that he doesn't, not that he doesn't do great films. I'm not a fan of him in this role. huge fan of him and was a place behind the pines. I can't remember the title of the movie. Yeah, place behind.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Awesome. Awesome movie. Great soundtrack. And I've liked a few of the other things he's done, but I don't know. I don't see him as a half man, half fish quasi. Who do you see it was a half man, half fish? Yeah. What's your top three half man half fish guys be?
Starting point is 00:29:42 See, that's, I got to have that ready to go. I'm going to make a statement. Well, I got one. I got one. I go. Go. Lance Bass Mike
Starting point is 00:29:52 Chuck Just stop at just stop and DJ Shark You know they could be DJ Shark Hey I know it's spelled
Starting point is 00:30:06 with a C but I'm just telling you And the best part is I know a lot of these reboots I can't remember which ones you put the old actors in the movies I think they didn't like Star Wars in different ways or whatever
Starting point is 00:30:16 but you could make Kevin Costner the helicopter guy, you know, the hot air balloon guy, you know how they get away and he saves Anola and the woman, you know, dead as a... Spoiler. His character would be Woody, as I mentioned. Yeah, I just think, interesting, timely piece. They didn't even know it. It was written in the late 80s and then picked up in the mid-90s and, you know, sea level rose by 25,000 feet in this thing. And I don't know if that's too much of a rise for the water to actually stay secured to the earth due to gravity. I don't think our sea level is ever going to rise that high. But I think it's a fairly
Starting point is 00:30:54 poignant movie. It's definitely more plausible than it was 30 years ago. Yeah, or are we coming out of an ice age? But I have to follow up on a couple things, because Waterworld was so ripped during its release and then for years after that it just turned into human nature of like, oh, what, you know what? It wasn't that bad. It's pretty bad. Those battle scenes suck. Okay. So if you compare it to the Mad Max element and you go, yeah, but Mad Max was scary. Like the early Mel Gibson stuff, like those things were like a little scary and it could have been because the way it was shot, it was Australian and it was just, it was a little different. But it was kind of creepy even though they were being parts of pounds. And this was so
Starting point is 00:31:36 cartoonish. It never really happened. And my final thought on it is as you rewatched it, wasn't dirt weird in the way that like dirt was so valuable. Oh. And didn't Costner also take like actual soil and rub his gums like it was a drug at one point? Who did that? Dirt was cocaine in this in this in this in this game. Yeah. Like like literally when he rolled up and brought like a planter of dirt, they all creamed
Starting point is 00:32:05 themselves and Homeboy was like tasting it on his tongue like it was pure. And you know, he got like stum. That's dumb. Leave that out of the remake. You know what else was dumb? The worst line of the thing is they, the smokers fire his boat up. It's on fire. He's dove underwater with Homegirl.
Starting point is 00:32:24 They resurface. He walks back up onto the smoking, still smoking boat, which by the way, you'd never be able to walk barefoot on. But he, all he can say is my boat. And then he just stands there. The worst line of the movie. Also, the three jet ski scene where, I can't tell if it's good or bad.
Starting point is 00:32:44 You remember how Dennis Hopper dies? Like, there's a lot of scenes for me that were questionable, but I think that it's a victim, as you said, of the expectation, but also it gets probably lifted up a little bit because for the last 25 years we've heard how bad it is. So if you go back watching it, you're like, it's not as bad as people say. And in the beginning, it was disappointing. So it's kind of in the middle there somehow. I have nothing else to add to it.
Starting point is 00:33:09 You're up. Me neither. You're up, right? Okay. I would just start with a real easy one, nice transition. The first new Star Wars, obviously not Star Wars Empire and Return to the Jedi, Jar Jarre Binks and On from one.
Starting point is 00:33:24 The anticipation that I had for this first one, because even as a kid, like the first time you learned, you're like, you know that it's actually a nine-part series and that Star Wars is part four. And the way the story works is there's actually three. I'm a huge origin guy. Everybody knows that about me. So I was just, I mean, I was like 10 going,
Starting point is 00:33:40 I can't believe this. how come it hasn't been done. And I have this theory about creative people that I really think creative people are at their best when they're younger. They're more on edge. They're not as willing to follow the rules. They're trying to prove something.
Starting point is 00:33:54 And the first things that you come up creatively, whether it's music, whether it's writing, or in this case, a movie, this idea, it's something that you've been thinking about for a very long time. And then it's not, hey, you need to come up with five new things that are creative. The person that carries it through the bands
Starting point is 00:34:07 that are able to carry that through artists. Those are the special one. But a lot of people, and it's not a one hit wonder thing necessarily, but it's a lot of people have maybe their one or two great ideas. Then beyond that, they're just empty. And with Lucas, it was clear this was something in his mind marinating for years and years, and that's why the first three were so incredible. But then to wait, what, 20-something years, come out with something,
Starting point is 00:34:27 where it feels like all of a sudden your dad got an upgrade. He's like, hey, I got this new program. I'm like, laptop. Do you guys want to see it? Like, look at this, paint. And I'm going to make it yellow, but it's going to be graffiti. and that's what the new issue, that's what the new issue Star Wars felt like,
Starting point is 00:34:42 where he had lost his edge, it was a little more family-friendly, and he had learned about CGI for the first time. And I get what he's doing. I'm not criticizing Dork of Losing this. I'm just simply saying it needed, I felt like a lot of this Star Wars stuff, the reason it worked was it felt so unique.
Starting point is 00:35:02 And I think if you were to ever do it to make it a little darker, like the Christopher Nolan Batman's, you could have something really, really special. And that's not the direction they went in. They went very family. And that's not why there's plenty of family stuff out there. Darker is the way to repurpose things.
Starting point is 00:35:16 It really good. It really is. Yeah, I'm with you totally. I think when they decided to redo it, it became too Disney, too much. They lost its edge. It just didn't have any feel to it like the first three. And even those three would be interesting to see darker now
Starting point is 00:35:32 with like some of the stuff that's they're doing with a lot of these, you know, quote unquote family movies now. Yeah, yeah, and some of them are terrifying. But I will say, you go back and watch the old Star Wars, they're still great, but they're a little bit more, I don't know if the word would be campy than I thought, like special effects. Like, obviously they were what they were back then. In the 70s.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Yeah, I mean, some of the lines were kind of one-liner-ish and that sort of thing, but I didn't remember that as a kid because you're a kid, you're not that critical. So, yeah, so I had- Hoff is a real place. Hey, dude. And did the Revenant rip off Star Wars with climbing in the horse or no? Oh, the Ton Ton? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Yeah, I don't know. I'm not going to say it's a rip off. I'm not going to say it's a rip off. Yeah, we got to be careful about the things we're ripping off. Yeah, you never know. I mean, I can't wait to see you get mad about this podcast because no one's ever done a repeat TV. And I just want to go over real quick, your hot take, that the Revenant sucks. What?
Starting point is 00:36:35 Wait a minute. hot take. I just hate it. Yeah. You hate, how do you hate it? Well, I think, well, first of all, yeah, hate it. He's a real fur trapper. He's a real fur trapper. It's unrealistic. The Peltra. The Peltrade. How many pounds do you have, tells. Many. You know, I think, yeah, not many.
Starting point is 00:36:57 I think, yeah, it hates a strong word. I think that, you know, the movie is obviously, unbelievably acted by Leo, but I just like so many of. other, so many of Leo's other films better. What about Hardy? Hardy's great, but hard. I mean, both those guys are great in whatever they do. But I just think that this is like the big film that's that like justify Leo's career, I think is just absurd.
Starting point is 00:37:22 And I think there's so many other films that I'll watch over and over and over again that I have more fun watching than the Revenant. Like the Revenant does a great job of making you feel this guy's pain and anguish. and the longevity of that into the viewer. And I'll never, it does so well that I'll never watch it again. Because I don't want to go through that.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Do you really trust anybody that makes the Revenant you know, like kind of signify, okay, this made his career. Like, I can't even let that mar my perception of the movie. I just think it's a visually stunning movie. And by the way, Tom Hardy
Starting point is 00:38:04 is the real Denzel Washington, okay? People say Denzel is the same guy and everything. Tom Hardy is real-life Denzel. Just saying. That's fair. That's fair. Yeah, so you guys are listing some more high-quality films. I'm going to go with Wild Wild West.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Why? Because... Never! Because I think there's an unbelievable opportunity to move for a sequel Wild Wild West going from Django Unchained. And then this sequel,
Starting point is 00:38:39 it's still Tarantino and Fox paired up, which I'm a big Tarantino guy. And this sequel, oh, no doubt. And Django in the sequel, changes his name to Jim West because he's tired of saying the D is silent.
Starting point is 00:38:55 And it becomes an FBI agent to protect Ulysses S. Grant. I think it's a home run. I love the fact that he's called a huge opportunity. I'd love your pitch. This is so serious. It's like he's not doing this with his boy.
Starting point is 00:39:15 I'm ready to pitch this. This is an airtight investment opportunity. I mean, Tarantino makes anything good. Yeah, he does. He really does. By the way, speaking of you, Lyssey's S. Grant, I see that biography that I said. You got me.
Starting point is 00:39:33 See long. thing's crap. Look at the bend on that binder. That thing is thick. That thing's been run through pretty heavy. Okay, so we got Wawa West. We got Waterworld, and we have... The Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Star Wars. Which Star Wars was it? The first three. Okay. Now, I got Shining. Okay, I got a lot... Shining is a great movie, okay? It's universally accepted as so,
Starting point is 00:39:58 except if you're Stephen King, because you don't like it because there was too much, as far as liberal. he's taken with the with the main character he thought that it should have been slower bay uh jack just kind of does that well he gets unraveled goes down the rabbit hole pretty quick and he did and i thought it was a great movie very influential okay i'm going to get scorsese out of uh retirement here um and he's going to do it we're going to bring the shutter island vibes that's actually perfect though because corsese will take it as long as stephen king wrote it so is that like a
Starting point is 00:40:33 joke. But it would just be like, look, anybody that writes the book and Stephen King will take multiple pages to set like one little specific tone, okay? Yeah. And there's no way that he was ever going to like a movie adaptation as well, especially that story that's so scary and it builds and it builds and it builds. That to me is just classic movie making versus the written words. The book and the book isn't always going to be good.
Starting point is 00:40:58 And I thought he did a brilliant job with it. But here's the kicker. We're going to have Scorsese. We're going to do Shutter Island. We're going to move the story. set from Colorado to Japan. Bear with me. We're going to set it outside Tokyo, in quotes,
Starting point is 00:41:10 because it's not truly outside Tokyo, but for the stake of the movie. Oldest hotel in the world, okay? I looked this shit up. The Nishiyama Onsen. It's 1300 years old. It's been taking care of by 52 generations of Japanese families from
Starting point is 00:41:25 the area. Same family, actually. Not Japanese families. I'm butchering it. Same family. 705 AD is is when this fucking thing after death was was built jc yeah after death is what that stands for um and i don't want to overthink this i'm going to go walkine phoenix i'm going to go anne hathaway in fact scorcese was supposed to do the joker and he walked away from it citing time and personal reasons i hope it's nothing personal with him and wakene uh i think it would be terrific so they're in japan you know how like jack the
Starting point is 00:41:59 characters is the caretaker and he's also a writer you know he's a he's a he's a struggling writer who thinks he's better than he is same thing with wakene he's over there to be an english tutor for a wealthy family and put him up at this really nice hotel it's got some parasite vibes nice digs obviously haunted there's a history he doesn't discover it until he goes out on the town goes to one of these uh what do they call him hor houses there um a bath house dojoes i believe Dojo, karate, karate, and you get entertained late at night. It's, it was a, it's one of those dojo's slash, you know. Japanese bathhouses.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, everyone knows. At 6 p.m., you know, it turns into a bathhouse. There's a 30 minute, you know, there's a 30 minute period where they, where they turn it from a football field to a monster truck course effectively. But Homeboy goes there. He gets seduced. He's partying his ass off. He's banging sock.
Starting point is 00:42:59 And then he does a couple hits of acid. He does some squares. Okay. And then he goes back to the hotel. He doesn't realize that he has an underlying psychological issue. And he's not only tripping balls for like five days, start seeing ghosts, start seeing like, you know, Japanese ghosts are way scarier than American ghosts.
Starting point is 00:43:18 It's just a rule. He's seeing people. Yeah. Everybody knows that. Yeah, there's like twins. There's the blood scene. It's adapted to change completely for the setting. And I mean,
Starting point is 00:43:28 there's still going to be a Lloyds. character, Grady character. You know, the two characters, see, if you remember the movie, there was the bartender, there was the guy in the, um, in the bathroom who had the mints who told him, you know, the mint guy in the bathroom. Uh, he starts losing. He sees all these people. It's creepy.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Um, everything's creepier in Japan. Yeah, that, that's, uh, that's my, my shining reboot. And I think we could make it tomorrow. I think literally this movie would be that good. Yeah. Great movie. I was skeptical at first because I'm, I'm a firm believer that some actors you just can't redo movies with. And I think Jack Nicholson is one of those guys. But Joaquin, if there's one guy,
Starting point is 00:44:05 that's the only guy that got me on board with this thing. Because, like, I think it's that hard to redo. The casting is so important. And Joaquin is the closest you're going to get to an actor that can effectively really make you believe he's insane. Yeah. As Jack Nicholson. Daniel Day Lewis could do it too, I think. Of course he could I mean he can do anything But now But Joaquin's got a
Starting point is 00:44:34 He's got a creep factor going on Not that Daniel Day Lewis couldn't do it But Joaquin I know It became kind of cool To not like the Joker To think it was terrible But you can't deny the fact
Starting point is 00:44:46 Of how invested he was in that character He was amazing But I got to tell you I wasn't trying to be cool When I said the Joker fucking You were on it early It doesn't suck No it's just not a good movie
Starting point is 00:44:56 I like it Sounds like it Sounds like you're saying the same thing. Joaquin is awesome. The performance is great. The movie not so great. By the way, I think the reason Joaquin works here is because at the core of this thing,
Starting point is 00:45:08 there was this inadequacy with Jack. I mean, that was the character that was like, he was so frustrated. He was just this ball of frustration. Whereas Daniel DeLewis, you know, it's not his self-loathing, the crazy he does. And Joaquin, it's like you could just see him start crying at any time, like just crumple into a ball, the Joker thing.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Like, he could just look crazy. Yeah, and it's not even the Joker, too, like in The Master with Philip Seymour Hoffman, that scene with those two guys. I mean, it's a weird movie, and it's really, but it's awesome. I mean, those two guys alone and just, that one,
Starting point is 00:45:43 if it weren't for the backstory of it being sort of the Elron Hubbard deal and the whole Scientology basis, you know, I don't even know if anybody would say, like, what the hell are you doing here, but once you're able to connect it to something real, it works. Just tread lightly because a lot of my listeners are
Starting point is 00:45:58 Scientologists. Yeah, I wasn't even criticizing. I'm just telling you what the movie is based on. Jason's a Scientologist as well. Go ahead, Roy. Okay. This one's going to be quicker. Slipstream.
Starting point is 00:46:09 This is shout-out for my brother Vaughn. Vaughn and I were working on this this morning over at the homestead here. And he's like, what about Slipstream? Because we're big into these future movies where the future is just different. And in the future, nature takes over is the tagline in the movie trailer. And Luke Skywalker actually plays the bad guy. And nature takes over. So all of a sudden, there's these massive wind currents all over the globe.
Starting point is 00:46:33 And dudes are just in planes left and right chasing each other around. Bill Paxton's a bounty hunter. Luke Skywalker's the bad guy. You've got to watch a trailer because I don't think the budget was real high for this one. The CGI is definitely on the lower scale of things. And there's a couple of battle scenes that looked like they may have been filmed in my backyard growing up. Like that's what kind of, you know, when you were a little kid in the woods were awesome. that's where I think some of this movie is filmed
Starting point is 00:46:59 in your backyard in just somebody's woods because I think they were worried about but I didn't know much about this my brother's all over these weird different obscure movies and this is so obscure that's why it needs to be rebooted because how is there a movie
Starting point is 00:47:13 about wind currents taking over and then everybody just in planes in a future version of the world where guys are just flying around in planes lawlessly and they have a bit of a north by northwest plane scene shoutout kind of vibe going on as well. So I'm going to keep things real serious.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Back to the future part two. We need a reboot. Great. Now that we know what 2015 actually is, and it's not actually the most important invention hasn't been a hoverboard, hovering skateboard. I think that it's due a more realistic
Starting point is 00:47:46 representation of what 2015 actually is. We're just way behind on hovering stuff in general. Would you agree? I would agree. That was the one thing everybody missed. Like the Jetsons, I think, was set in like 1994. And like now we, we, a guide goes, he hovers over the English channel and it looks like it took eight days to set his fucking jet pack up. And we're like, yeah, 2020. Doom is my third one.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Doom. Everybody remembers the game. Classic first person shooter. I know you're probably more of a Wolfenstein guy, Brian from the late 80s. I was more of a Doom guy. Wolfenstein's too old for even me. Now, I mean, yes, it was in the mix, but I wasn't, wasn't my, my first role RPG was, was Zelda. Unless you would count Mario. I can hear all the music and you go in the little hut to get the heart and there was like that mysterious guy in there.
Starting point is 00:48:45 I used to love that fucking game. Yeah, I can still hear the doors shutting on Doom. Like, scary. It was really scary. I was mashing away on my dick-ass computer until I got like, carpal tunnel syndrome back in 19th. Wolfenstein me. Yeah, dude. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:49:02 But they really, they tried this thing in 05 with the rock and it fucking stuck. It was terrible. That hurts you, Kels, to say that. I could see you just anything critical of the rock, the tears are welling up. I cannot stand the rock at all. Oh, you don't like him? Wow. All time, Zach.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Whoa. Hey, I met him. He was really nice, Jace. Yeah. I'm obviously not talking about the rock. as a person. Or a wrestler, although he was never my favorite wrestler either,
Starting point is 00:49:31 but he's a little bit too clean cup for me. I think his movies do what they're designed to do, which is make a fuck kind of money and, you know, one-liners and that sort of thing. I thought maybe you had met him or something, because everybody, when you meet him, it's hard to not like him meeting him. Yeah, he's very magnetic.
Starting point is 00:49:47 He's magnetic. Okay, so like here's the deal. Were you going to say Magneto? Magneto, my dog. So, so like this thing, was, as we said, it was a rock movie. I mean, this has to be sci-fi kind of like psychological
Starting point is 00:50:03 ad astro. Did you see Ad Astra last year? I did. I love the tone of that movie. Love the tone. I love the tone. I love the tone. Really good, but just the supporting actors were terrible. Yeah, I think, by the way, the guy who did the cinematography for Doom did Jade.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Do you remember the movie Jade? I got kicked off a field trip because it was on late at night on HBO. I was essentially like softcore porn, but a real movie. And I went down in the hallway knocking on people's doors and be like, hey, Jade was on Channel 26. Sixth grade, I got kicked off a field trip for spreading the gospel of Jade around the hotel, the holiday end floor in Williamsburg, Virginia, colonial Williamsburg. That's where we went. But I was important.
Starting point is 00:50:46 That's important settlement, though. A lot of history there. There's a lot of history there. If you want to go see what a blacksmith was like in the 1600s, you can get right up close to him. There aren't enough blacksmiths today. I've said that for years. There weren't enough blacksmiths in Hawaii when they did Waterworld. So I guess, like, bear with me here because you know, and I know you're like, I'm already bearing with you.
Starting point is 00:51:07 I know you're like writing a whole fucking movie. But this movie, the game was about a space marine that went and did missions like on Mars. He had to go do security. And the movie sucked. There was some adaptation of it. I want a space Marine to go to Mars to get banished because just like in the game, he assaulted or killed another space marines, so he's got to go to this dangerous outpost,
Starting point is 00:51:30 the moons of Mars, okay? And as he's going through it, he's got all these missions, there's some chronology issues where they're flashing back, and you're like, why are they flashing back? He's thinking,
Starting point is 00:51:40 what are these visions? He's killing these demons, these aliens, and then he's got one last mission at the end of the movie. Go retrieve this piece of space junk. It's really mysterious. Nobody knows what it is.
Starting point is 00:51:52 He flies out there on his little hovercraft. He realizes it's, It's his coffin. He's been dead the whole time. That picture flash that he thought when he got booked at a space marine jail was a gunshot. They executed him. And he's in hell the whole time. So it's hell.
Starting point is 00:52:08 It's Mars. It's true to the game. Covering a lot of bases. Yeah. Huh? A lot of bases being covered in this one. Yeah. And to cast it, I really struggled here.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Jeffrey Wright from Westworld could be really good. He's on my brain right now. Oscar Isaac because of ex machina or machina, however. I don't know that anybody knows how to pronounce that movie, but it's a great movie. It's a struggle. Every time you want to reference you, you're like, I love that movie, and I'm afraid to say the name of it. Some say like ex machina, where you're like, that sounds cool and artsy, but that might be wrong too. I knew it.
Starting point is 00:52:45 I thought I knew it once. It's almost like any European basketball player, like after a couple years. I remember one time Joe Tessator was like, it's not Mario Tata. What is it? And he's like, it's Mario Ta. All right, guys, and this is the point in the pod where we get a surprise cameo from a real-life, big-time Hollywood actor, a friend of ours, Miles Teller.
Starting point is 00:53:08 And again, although Kelsey and Ryan just met on Zoom today, they both know Miles separately, and I know Miles as well. He's in Top Gun. So we value his opinion. Let's get him on. Go. Looking swole. Oh, look at this.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Looking good. Look at that woodwork. Lucille texted me so I know I know I had to be wearing a cutoff fucking... Yeah, hold on. So you know what we're doing here? We're doing reboots. Like, off the top of your head, what do you want to see remade? I mean, off the top of my head, nothing.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Not a big fan of reboots. Flubber. All right, but no, here's the idea. Here's the idea, Miles. We'll pitch it to you now, which I'm sure you love. We want to reboot Roadhouse and you're going to play Dalton because I could see a lot of people underestimating you in a tussle. He's like, what the fuck is that supposed to move?
Starting point is 00:54:08 Right, no, but you got enough of an edge to you wear a mustache right there? Right, but you keep the mustache. Riscilla, we can go right now, dude. I know where you live. Oh, did you just admit that you don't social distance right here on the pod? You're going to roll up to my dog and throat rip him and cough COVID into it. his throat cavity. I will mess
Starting point is 00:54:25 Roussela up from six feet away. He knows it. Ignoring me would hurt more. To be honest. Well, let's tell him, since he doesn't like reboots, we'll tell him what we had so far. I had Doom.
Starting point is 00:54:39 I have the shining, and I've got Waterworld. What'd you have, Ryan? The first few Star Wars, I wanted an all-black Ferris Bueller's Day off and Slipstream, or Roadhouse with Miles Teller. Kels?
Starting point is 00:54:52 I got wild, Wild West, back to the future, only part two, Armageddon, Running Man, and Rocky 4, but only instead of Russia,
Starting point is 00:55:04 I think we need another Rocky film to end our tensions with China right now from COVID and these trade wars going on. And I think Sly can come out of retirement
Starting point is 00:55:14 to handle that as well. How'd we do? Why do you want to Reap? Armageddon was the perfect movie. Dude, the plot everything you're never you're not going to get better than live tyler in that in that role the dinosaur going up the stomach right by the belly button i mean that's smooth i agree that movie's really good and uh you know it'd be tough to reboot it i just think the only thing that you change is
Starting point is 00:55:39 why is it easier to train drillers to become astronauts and just not astronauts to drill a hole i don't i never got there but you know what this everything else makes perfect sense though this is tough This would be like Miles and his friends doing a football pod for like an hour and then like one of us popping on Jason being like judging the fuck out of their football takes. It's not even close. Miles knows way more about football than I do about anything related to cinema. So yeah, yeah. I mean, you know. Man, I got to cast you in one of these movies, man, because by the way, I know some of these movies are going to become real movies, Miles.
Starting point is 00:56:18 I just want to tell you that in advance. Ryan is a writer, and we know that's in Hollywood, obviously, you're on the call. Yep. Be ready. Just be ready for the Waterworld reboot starring Ryan Gosling. We got the writer. We got the talent. Kelsey's got the money.
Starting point is 00:56:35 So, you know, we can easily put this thing together, man. That's not hard. I've signed on to things with far less of a flesh out pit than what I heard right now. So I'm in. I'm in. Okay, good. Good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:49 There we go. I also, to wrap up my last two, and we'll go the last two in a row and then hit honorable mentions. I think Black Mask needs to get remade. And it can be called something completely different. It can be called fucking Whitey for all I care. But Whitey Bulger needed to be better depiction
Starting point is 00:57:07 than what was done there. I want Gary Oldman to play Whitey Bulger. Dude, Gary, have you seen, oh man, what is the movie? It's Oldman, it's Sean Penn, it's Ed Harris. State of Grace. State of grace.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Oh, that movie's incredible. That's one of my favorite movies all the time. I've been actually getting movie recommendations from Tom, from Cruz. That's where we get ours. Yeah, he knows I haven't seen a lot of stuff. And so he recommended, I watched, maybe I was just on a cossar kick, because I think that guy is just, got like a Paul Newman thing. He's just classic kind of Americana actor.
Starting point is 00:57:48 I watched No Way Out, and then last night I watched the Untouchables. Could have been a lot better. Elliot Ness? Yes, he didn't. That's who's portrayed in the movie. If I can get a list at the end, guys, and I can get into this a little bit better next time. That'd be great.
Starting point is 00:58:11 I just love the idea, Chris, of Cruz telling Miles, like, hey, you should check out a couple of these movies. And then Miles, like, saying to his buddies, like, yeah, I don't know, man. He recommended King Kong. Like that one kind of surprised me a little bit. Hey, do you have to go back to Tom and be like, yeah, I like that movie when you didn't like it? I mean, I sent him a text and I said, you know, I enjoyed this, this. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:38 I don't like movies when I feel like the score is trying to like really tell you what you need to be feeling. Like I get it, it should inform it. But a couple times, like, it was just a little too, like root for the good guy. is now. That's something that plagued Waterworld, and we won't be making that same mistake in the second go-around. And lastly, Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat? You name it. We talked about it earlier. I would really love a reboot. Probably Mortal Kombat has a better shot of getting that done than Street Fighter, because Street Fighter was trying to be like a real movie. You could kind of blood sport Mortal Kombat. You could kind of make a hybrid there. And I also think
Starting point is 00:59:16 Bloodsport would be a good reboot, honestly. I watched that Chung Lee fighting at the other day, And his fucking titties were out of control. That's the guy he fights at the end? Yeah, Jean-Claude Van Damme and Chung Lee, they have like a peck-off. And Van Dam is for the first time in his life, is just totally outmatched. Apparently that dude in real life was like a male, he was like a, I think he was like a stripper. Or he was a male dancer. You can very, you got to stat check that, but I'm pretty sure I heard that.
Starting point is 00:59:42 That's got to be true, I think. That makes sense with pitties like those, like he was, and he had such control over them. And the fight scene, by the way, is a bit overreact. Like, nobody has their guard up. For two people that are at the effects of underground martial arts, they don't block anything. You know, the talcum powder thing,
Starting point is 00:59:59 I'm just not that into it. You can remake any three of those movies for me. And I don't know how I'd cast it. It's way too intimidating to cast a street fighter. I mean, there's 55 characters. That's what we talked about earlier. Not in the original. It's like Raiou, Brunette, Raiu, Blanca.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Camie. Who played Cammy? Kiley Minogue played Cammy. That's a blast. Kilbourne loves Kylie I just Googled male Asian strippers, and so far a lot of the hits have not come up. From Charlie the... Yeah, so I just...
Starting point is 01:00:28 You just got flagged. You got flagged. You know where I got flagged earlier? I was trying to cast Anola in Waterworld, or Waterworld. That's the young girl. And I felt like Chris Hanson was going to walk into my living room. I was Googling young actresses. I just felt so like we were doing that.
Starting point is 01:00:44 His research. Yeah, his research. I guess the only thing I have for sure here is that M. Bison would have to be Benicio. You can be Ryu if you want. I don't need to be in all these movies, guys. No, you don't. You have to bring them to the people you know for us. That's all.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Two honorable mentions here before we get out of here. All right. The only other thing I had was Outbreak the TV series and you're pitching it to the producers and you say at the end of season one, you think you're going to be able to go outside and then you can't. They're a season two.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Jace? Robocop, obviously. I had Congo as well because we've seen how big of a different CGI makes in monkey movies with Planet Eates. About the only serious one I got is Memento. I feel like Memento deserves a higher budget than kind of what it got the first time around.
Starting point is 01:01:40 I'd like to see what it would do with like a mainstream vibe to it. I got powder as an honorable mention. Do you remember that movie? Oh, wow. Great, dude. touches the hunter and then touches the deer and makes them feel it. He's just, dude, another one that would be vastly improved by CGI.
Starting point is 01:02:00 He was the original X-Man. He was. Think about it. People forget that. Yeah, yeah. He was doing a lot of that stuff before these guys had an academy. He's just a dude by himself. I would like to do like a lethal weapon.
Starting point is 01:02:13 I mean, they were talking about doing white men can't jump. That was one that, that was a reboot. They were actually kind of talking to me about a little while. This is a couple years ago they were talking about maybe me and Mike B. You were going to be the white man? Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 01:02:27 We didn't. You're like, actually, I'm reading first. Oh, wait, you want me to read for Billy Hoyle? Let's be a lethal weapon. I want to do something like that, man. I think action comedy, I think people lend too heavily on like the comedy of it recently.
Starting point is 01:02:44 It doesn't work if you make it too joky. I mean, even like the diehards, man, a lot of humor in those. It just comes for, you just kind of have, you know, the humor should come from the character, not trying to just do a bunch of bits and stuff. You know, like, Rusillo sends me his scripts, and it's just like joke after joke after joke.
Starting point is 01:03:06 How does he send you his scripts? Snailmail or PDF or? He just, he texts me, and then he sends me like this super long text about, like, hey, man, like, first off, you know, I feel weird. doing this, but he keeps doing it so he doesn't feel that weird. I'd hate to do this, but I'm having a tough time.
Starting point is 01:03:25 I'm lonely. All right, that part might be accurate on the lonely one at the end, but the number of times I've done that to Miles are zero, because I know better. And there was one time, I think, a couple years ago where Miles allowed me, it was like a resetting of what the friendship was. He's like, no, no, you're going to be at this tier. Because I'd said like, hey, one of my friends had said something about a script, did you ever read that?
Starting point is 01:03:46 And Miles is like, whoa, bro, what is this? Like, are you going to be one of these guys now because you're moving out here? Like, what are you, an agent or something? It was so, it was like dental work with no nova cane, like, right at me. Because I understand your world, like, you have that shit happen to you all the time. So I made a mental note, as I've not forgotten it where I go, even as I'm right, I'm never going to bug Miles about it. I bug you about the Zoom, but I'm never going to bug you about that stuff.
Starting point is 01:04:11 I went to dinner with Kelson, Beau Allen. I didn't ask them afterwards if I could, you know, suit up for the birds on, you know, on Sunday. Yeah, that's absolutely right. And by the way, Bo would have easily been on this call, but he's afraid to do anything with the media now. Why? Where do he go? Oh, now I get it.
Starting point is 01:04:31 You just got to gronk it and do it. I mean, that's the thing. That's the secret about being in New England is you can actually just do it. But can you if you're not catching touchdown passes? Vince Wilfork signed a deal with the TV station that I worked at at the time. And I was like, Vince, you know, was everybody cool with it? He was like, I just said, Bill, I'm a man. and you're a man and I'm going to go do this.
Starting point is 01:04:52 And that was it. I want to hear Bill say that could Bill Belize. Well, it's not going to help my podcast. And he knows what a fucking clown I am from being there for a year. So, guys, thank you for joining me. This is our hard out. I got to go, you know, be a dad and all those things that I've been doing the last two months in quarantine. I wish everybody health and safety, guys.
Starting point is 01:05:14 I wish everybody health and safety. And many reboots. That tremors reboot, I'm going to send you that later, Miles. Send him a one sheet. Yeah, absolutely. All right, thanks, guys. We'll be back on Monday with a Last Dance review. And look for Miles and white man can jump.
Starting point is 01:05:33 He's going to be the white guy. Y'all take care.

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