Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Trade Reactions: Dolphins are Playoff Contenders, Bears Future is Bright & Vikings Can Contend.

Episode Date: November 2, 2022

(2:14) - Chris Recaps NFL Trades: Dolphins Get Chubb, Claypool and Fields Connect in Chicago, Hockenson Joins Kirk in Minnesota & Calvin Ridley is on Jacksonville. (36:00) - Mailbag with Chris and Kyle: Taylor Swifts Record Sets Records, Kyle's Pregame Tunes and Justins in the Bahamas. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. https://www.greenlightpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Tennessee, y'all two. 1-8009-9-9-7-89. The Greenlight Podcast welcomes you. NFL trade deadline brought a whole bunch of news. We go through it. Chris talks about the trades, the impacts, and how the teams fare on the other side. Tough day for the Broncos.

Much love, Bradley Chubb. You're a beast, mile high will miss you. After the trade talk, Kyle and Chris get into a good bit of fun. We had a mailbag. You all delivered it yet again. Some great questions were asked. Some great answers were given.

and stay tuned for that. Y'all enjoy. Chris, did you know that there were 10 trades made today the most ever on an NFL trade deadline day? No, I didn't know that that was the most. It does feel like a lot, but I was talking to y'all about this. When I was a player, you certainly never pay attention to everything, like, you know, the way we do now.

Like, right now I know exactly when 4 o'clock comes, and I know I was on the practice field. Like, we'd hear some shit, and it'd probably get to us by dinner time or you'd check your phone and like, damn, this guy got moved. But this is, exciting and it's something to talk about and i sure wish there was a trade deadline every week because it's fun it's fun and it kind of like sucks for some of these players though on the other hand because ultimately you shouldn't if you're branding cooks you shouldn't have to sit in houston with no agency

like this fucking sucks for him you know i'm not saying everybody should just be able to get up and leave but you can't acknowledge the human element of this thing is you know like you're working your ass off and you don't really have a lot of control over uh you know you're your place of employment once you're locked into a contract. And I know people say, oh, it's a contract. And you signed it and all that shit. But like sometimes it, I think it would be fair as fuck to get Brandon Cooks moved. He's the number one guy I feel bad for today.

Brandon Cook's not moving. He read a tweet that was not so cryptic. It was just like, hey, man, I've been a good dude. I kind of keep my mouth shut and I don't air shit out. I'm paraphrasing here. But, you know, that can't go on forever. He said, don't take a man's kindness for granted. Covered for the lies for too long.

Those days are gone. Cross the line with playing with my career. I will not speculate what happened, but I will imagine it's directly related to the trade deadline and not being moved. And him leaving with a personal, he left for personal reasons earlier today and didn't practice. So that tells you something's going on there. And I feel bad for him. Number one, I also feel bad for Cam Acres. I really do.

Unfortunately, you can't make people want to give your employer. enough to move you. I mean, I'm sure Sean McVeigh was fielding requests. I'm sure he was in talks about, you know, less need was fielding these requests, but sometimes it's not enough. And like, I don't know, like, when you're

thinking of it, Sean McVeigh and him might not be getting along professionally. It might not be working, but like, what if a guy gets hurt? You know, it's a fucked up business. And you're just like, I think I'll hold on to Cam Acres. And this guy's like, I just want to play football again. Yeah, that's exactly what tweeted. I just want to play again.

Just want to play. And that sucks. So the human element of it is terrible. And Elijah Moore, who yeah, a lot of people like you're young, the whole thing, like you shouldn't be complaining, but he's just not getting the ball. He's not getting the ball. And you know, that's a fly-on-the-wall situation for me. I'd love to know what's going on up there with Joe and

those guys. I don't like to pry. I mean, I could text Joe ask it, but I don't think he would tell me in the middle of the season. But I feel bad for guys that, because football is really hard. Like, and if you don't want to be somewhere and coaches always say this if you don't want to be here leave well it's not that simple in the NFL especially and I'm sure some of these guys have told their coaches like hey I don't want to be here and then like the coach is like well I can't do anything about that like uh I need depth

or that sort of thing or like a six isn't enough or a fourth isn't enough like so it's not that fucking simple and it's a physical violent sport and it sucks it sucks and DJ Moore didn't get traded did he you know still in Carolina you know what I still is Brian Burns who they are two first reportedly still have Jeremy Chan they still have some good pieces but some guys you thought we're gonna go yeah and Brian Burns for for two ones I don't see that I'm just now we're in day and age where if I say something like Brian Burns isn't worth two first somebody's gonna be like it was throwing shade at Brian Burns no she's not

worth two first like Bradley Chubb didn't have have two first no and I take somebody asked me this morning would you take Burns or Chubb Burns or Chub I I would take, I would take, close. No, I would take Chubb. I would, I would take Chub. He's proven it more. And this season, he's at the top of the pass rush win, weight, rate standings.

And on top of that, you know, like, it, and we'll talk about the Chubb trade in a second. But like, for L.A., I don't know. Somebody earlier was tweeting at me because I was, I said, hey, he ain't worth two ones. Okay. Sorry. Like, you know, you want to go pay two ones for somebody. go go pay for somebody who's I don't know more of a known commodity

I'm talking about two ones you got it's got to be like fucking perpetual double digit guy for me or quarterback yeah or quarterback or something like I and if you're the Rams you're not that close you know like unless Brian Burns has three family members who can play offensive

line for the Los Angeles Rams you know and and a doctor that can keep Matt Stafford healthy and like it's just not there's not enough in that package to help your team right now and i know that like you're like well you're getting the player for another few years and that sort of thing but like i don't know what the next couple years looks like for the rams and i finally wrap my head around why you say fuck them picks like if you just live like this forever like it's fine like you can you can do this forever

you definitely can do this forever until the new guy shows up and he's got no picks you know that that's that's who's getting fucked in this whole thing you know brandon cooks and whoever succeeds less need and Sean McVeigh, whenever that is. I hope it's 2045 because I really like those guys. But in 2046, somebody's going to be like, God damn, dude, like, I don't get the week off, but I'd like to pick some players. Is that how they do things around here? So it's crazy that they were really sending two ones to Carolina

for Brian Burns. And it's crazier that Carolina wouldn't take the deal. We don't take it. Yeah. Talk about a team that is in rebuild mode. They're looking for a new How enticing is that for, you know, a top-tier coach to have two extra first, you know, like next year? It's really enticing. And, you know, I don't know who that coach is. I'm pulling for Steve Wilkes. I really am.

I'm just pulling for Steve Wilkes. You know, I'm going to get a T-shirt that says I'm pulling for Steve Wilkes. Unless you bet, you know, for the Falcons. And for the, unless you bet on the Carolina. Yeah. Then I'm pulling for the Panthers plus four. Right. I'll have a t-shirt that says, I'm pulling for Steve Wilkes,

and then on the back, it'll say, ultimately, though, Carolina plus four would be nice. Last year, when the Raiders assistant, Basaccia took over, you were hardcore for him, too, and I bet they maybe wish they'd kept him. Dude, I think there's a lot of overthinking in this business, man. I do, and I'm not going to sit here and hire the next Carolina head coach. I'm just here to do the trade deadline, you know? I don't want to bite off more than I can fucking chew here. Yeah, like Cam Hayward, I feel bad for.

Jerry Hughes, who's also down there in Houston, you know, he's a great rusher. He's had a great career. He's got five sacks right now. He's probably sitting there like, damn, I'm wasting all this production down here, and I'm old, man. So that sucks. Okay, I just vented on everybody that I feel bad for.

Now, here's who I feel good for. I feel good for Bradley Chub. number one because I've always liked his game and you know I'm I'm partial to power rushers I just think it's it's cool you know like a power rusher yeah strength is natural and everything but you also have to have technique as a and I same thing with edge guys I just can't relate to a guy that can bend the hedge and I can't run on the side of their their foot like Robert Quinn I can't Bradley chub just just the day he's having man like you wake up and you're riding to work and then you go down to Miami

and you're swimming to work or something, read, you know, you're a dolphin. You're not having to deal with the Broncos country stuff anymore. This is bad juju up there. I don't care if they want in London. It's like Denver's telling you, number one, I think they're telling you, hey, we're not in win now mode.

We've got plenty of time to recalibrate this new technology that's just not working out right now. We need to, you know, reboot. We need a system update, but either way, it's not going to, the new system updates not drop until the off season. We're not that fucking good. We have the pieces.

Let's hit reset and see how much we can improve throughout the season, but we know we're okay. And Chubb's not expendable because he's, there's, like there's nobody like him up there. But look at this, dude. You got Baron Browning, who I've talked about a lot. I really like Baron Browning. Barron Browning, hipster.

He's a fifth best pass rush win rate. Same thing. Benito, one of the best 20 win rates in the league. at edge. And he's a rookie too. Yep. Fresh out of Oklahoma. Young guy, Browning, young guy just started fucking playing defensive end in the national football league. They had him playing linebacker off

the ball, like traditional linebacker last year. Yeah, he looks pretty good. What are we doing? This guy's going to be the next fucking baby. He's baby Von Miller. Yeah. So, you know, like you got those guys on the edge. You have Randy Gregory. You got Draymond Jones, who I really like that he was jumping off the tape

this week. You got a lot of dudes, man. So it's an admission that they're not. in it but you know they also they've got some young talent to develop and chub's 26 and maybe the time they have it right he'll be 28 or 29 and like chub has been hurt right and chub's a physical guy

when the physical rushers run out of gas like there's an adjustment period trust me like it's just fucking you know like maybe he's maybe it's better to invest in youth like that guy's already got some mileage on him go down in the warm weather and fucking wind rushes

down there and worry about three four years from now the Miami Dolphins can worry about that. Because I'm a big fan of job. If I'm dolphins, I make this trade. But I can also see in Denver why you think you have some youth. You have a great future across the board. The dolphins do get a great locker room guy. He was the captain in Denver.

He's going to do great things in terms of leadership and showing those young rushers in Miami the right way to do it in the NFL. And not only does it directly like it's, It's teachable, like these young rushers, and there's some good ones. Like, Jalen Phillips, I like him. He can move around. You know, I don't think he's a pure edge rusher, although he's done well out there. I think what he does is he's really versatile.

Like, look at some of his rushes. Man, he was whooping people inside on Thursday night. I was just watching him one night. It was, I think it was the Bengals. And like, it's fun. It's just fun to see him. It's fun to see him have the ability as well as Agba. to move around a little bit in that defense that's kind of multiple.

And, you know, they bring pressure a lot. But once that scheme stuff dries up, like, it's just not working for them this year. Infuse a little talent into the room. Like, they already have talent, but this guy's going to be the best player on that front. And when he walks in the first day, it's not just, hey, I can, like, teach these young guys how to work or, you know, so on and so forth. I mean, he's 26. He's not 33 or something. like he's you know but he has good work habits what he's going to do is he's going to elevate

everybody's game because when a new guy walks in a room like that an alpha like a captain which you said read that guy sets a tone competitively as much as anything like de lineman he's on my team right but i'm competing with him now you know because i want to be the alpha like i want to be i want to be the best player like when robert quentin came it was pretty it was pretty quick for me realize I'm not going to be the best player here anymore in St. Louis, like on this front. But I was really happy about it. And it also helped me raise my game because it motivated me to want to rush better and to, you know, try to hang in there with Rob. You can't. But like, you know, that's what these guys are thinking when a new alpha walks in the room. And so it

helps elevate their games and on the field. It helps free them up. You know, he's a force multiplier in the locker room and on the field. Not just on the defense. It impacts the offense. of guys as well because they see the team making plays for impact players like this. They're like, oh, we have a shot. They might have a middling record right now. But they're like, all right, we're in like this. The front office knows that we are in win now. And we can make moves to win the Super Bowl this year.

They're going for it all. And like, you know, we were talking about this. And they should go for it all. They're in striking distance of being in the AFC championship game. Like there are two teams in the AFC. for me. I mean, like, I don't mean to be chalky, but those are the two best teams in the AFC. And then there are some other teams like the Ravens and the Dolphins and some other, you know, like both those teams got better at the deadline.

Yeah, the Titans, you know, who didn't get better at the deadline, but that's that like second tier of AFC teams that one move can change everything. And this is a move that will help them. They haven't been as good defensively. The pressures have not been getting home the same way. Their pressure rate's not great. This is a good. good move. I mean, it's everybody and you know on the other side of it, I didn't even mention Jacob Martin. You know, Jacob Martin's head of Denver. He's a good young

rusher. So you've got all this stuff and I think both these teams win and one thing that stands out and Kevin Clark was talking about was the Laramie Tunsell thing, the butterfly effect of Laramie Tunsel shipping him to Houston accruing picks for him parlaying one of those picks into

the three first round picks that you got for for Trey Lance. Like so So 2021 Waddle, that's one of your, the triplets here. Waddle with the 21, 21, 22, 1 you get Hill, 231, you use on Shub. So that's all from the tree of Laramie Tunsel. Not that kind of tree. The tree, I had to do a pot joke.

Everybody does it to me. You think I was like insane. I didn't have a gas mask on it. I love Laramie Tonsel, bro. You think Bradley Chubbs at all frustrated that he was on a byweek and now he's got a game Sunday? No, no, I think he's pretty excited. I think he's on Zillow right now. And if I, oh, man, if I was a Miami Dolphin, first off, I'd have to live in a gated community

because all these two anons would be coming to kill me. Fucking, anyways. But I would be excited, man. You know, like Miami's an awesome city to live in. You know, the team's good. You're in the thick of it all of a sudden. it's about to be cold as fucking Denver. It's not going to be cold down in Miami.

He's going to be on the beach. He's going to be like, where is the beach? But you said it the other day, you don't want to play the dolphins in the playoffs. They're a scary team in the playoffs. They're a scary. They just got that much scarier. And Jeff Wilson. We can't forget Jeff Wilson because Christian McCaffrey makes him expendable.

And this also, at the time of the trade, I thought, you know, Jeff Wilson heading to Miami from San Francisco would make Hunt to Philly a possibility but evidently they wanted a fourth for him so another situation where like kareem hunt wants to be out of cleveland right he's out there last night i know his mind's on the game but it's weird bro like you know he's out there playing a full contact fucking sport toting the rock and his in his head he has to you know what's the word um compartmentalize you know the very violent situation he's in try not to get hurt save yourself for tomorrow somebody's coming to rescue me and nobody's coming to rescue

you. It's kind of a fucked up business. So, Kareem Hunt going nowhere. I don't mean to say it like that. Sounds terrible. Sounds terrible. The worst trash talk I ever heard was we had this safety in St. Louis, white guy, Craig Dahl. He's my guy.

But he lit somebody up on the sideline and stood over him. And he said, where are you going? You're going nowhere. And I was like, bro, like, did you get that in the screenplay for the program? I'm like, you can't say that out here. You just can't do it.

So yeah, it's Cream Hunt. Where are you going? Going nowhere. And it sucks. Talking about somebody who you thought was going to get traded and they did chase Claypool from the Steelers to the Bears. That gives Justin Fields a weapon for the next couple years and a great move by the Bears front office who just moved Roquan Smith to the Ravens.

Yeah, I love the Claypool thing. You know, I got a buddy in Chicago, Ian Yates Cunningham. I talked about them in the pot earlier. I think the one that came out yesterday. But I think they got a really sharp front office. I think we sat here for a little bit and wondered which two they were moving, right? Was it theirs or was it the one that they got from the Ravens? Yeah, just yesterday.

It appears to be their own. Oh, really? It is their own. That changes it a little bit. I mean, like, I still love the trade. I mean, I really do like the trade. I'm going to tell you why I like the trade. Okay.

Justin Fields, what does he struggle to do? Throw the ball accurately, right? That's been the, even people who want to defend Justin Fields like me. That's right. We know he hasn't been able to put, he hasn't been able to Tom Cruise that fucking thing. By Tom Cruise, I mean, if you've seen the new top gun, everybody was like, oh, we need Tom Cruise. We can't get the missile exactly where we want it. Like, how does he do it?

And then he puts the missile right where, Justin Fields isn't there yet You know Justin Fields is like Miles Teller Okay But he can be Tom Cruise With Chase Claypool

Chase Claypool can make him Tom Cruise Because Chase Claypool has a big Catch radius bro Chase Claypool Like if you got a guy Who's not that accurate right now But you know

Just fucking throw the ball up to this Claypool guy He's all hopped up on Codyac Wintergreen Because we send my care package Right I wonder what the cost of Codyack in Illinois is because it's a pretty variable. A lot higher than here for sure.

It's not that high here? Well, it's high, but Virginia, like, in the south. It's cheaper. It's cheaper than up north for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But if I was Justin Fields, I'd be feeling great just because it's like, hey, they believe in me. Yes.

They're not selling. They're fine. Yes, absolutely. They believe in me. And also, as your polls and your Iberfluus and you're like, hey, what are we ultimately going to be evaluated on, right? I mean, I know I'm a defensive head coach, but let me not be the defensive head coach who doesn't invest in my offense.

And this guy who we think is pretty good, okay? How much does the Patriots game and what you saw there? And then what you saw last week is the offense got a little bit better, factor in the fact that, hey, we're going to get you a wide receiver right now. And I know you're not going to win right now. I know that's what you said by shipping Roquan Smith. I know. It doesn't, like, for some people, it doesn't compute.

Like, how could you admit that you're not there yet and get Justin Fields help right now? you can't ruin a defense mentally. You can't. You can ruin quarterbacks by not giving them options, giving them opportunities to advance the football in their career. You know what I mean? And a partnership with a receiver is something that develops over time.

So like getting them now, they could have two years of experience once they're good and ready to compete. Absolutely. And they might think they're a year off. Think about that. I mean, like, you don't want to wreck fields from a standpoint of him not being protected,

but you also don't want to wreck him thinking and there's nobody I can throw the ball to. If you can't build habits where you're experiencing some success, that's not a process that you can win with. Like you've got to set this kid up for some success. So, yeah, like you are punting by, you know, on defense by saying like, listen, like, Rokwon Smith's awesome, all that stuff. He would have been a perfect bear for a long time,

but it's not a premium position. And this isn't going to ultimately be the difference. The difference is going to be that quarterback, right? Can he or can he not? and I want to help him. So I like this move for them. And, you know, it's also a weak free agency class this cycle. So if you want to help Justin Fields, like, get on it right now.

Look at some of the guys that are going to be the headliners. We need to make a T-shirt, 2003 NFL free agency wide receiver class, like kind of a band lineup and have on there. And I don't mean to shade it any of these guys, but just go look. It's just not like, you know, it's not. it's not that great. By the way, on the Codiak thing, one of the prime things in my world that you could hike the price

up on, and I wouldn't even know it. I don't even look. Because when I'm going to get a tent to dip, it's either... Once you're at the counter, you're getting it. Yeah. They're not going to be like, oh, $20. It's like being at the airport. Yeah. It's like being at the airport, I'll take that... I want a banana.

It's going to be $9.99. Okay. Hudson News. Have it at it. Don't spend it all in one place. Claypool, I like that move. One thing with Baltimore is they have drafted really well in the middle rounds and they could get a conditional three right so they've go look at who they've drafted in the middle rounds they've crushed it and um they also are pretty good at timing up this um conditional pick thing yeah they kind of have it down to a science they're really smart yeah they just activated ozabo as well oh really yeah so he might be able to play they're going to get

better second half of the season they're going to get better and they haven't they you know we talked about this on yesterday's pod but like um roquan smith helps them exactly how they need to be help defensively. And he's a perfect fit for their division, right? Look at two nights ago. Look at the fucking Monday night game. We need backers. We need like guys that can run it hit. And yeah, and he can actually cover pretty well. And he's really good at everything. So, another move was the Hawkinson move. Early one. Early one. Kind of out of the blue wasn't someone you expected to be moved. But the Vikings needed tight end help. You just, you just, You saw Irv Smith.

This was actually after the trade, but Irv Smith moved to IR, eight to 10 weeks. And you showed me those statistics. Like Kirk Cousins, first off, the outside zone, you know, the stuff that they run there, their whole scheme is predicated on tight ends, a very central piece in that scheme. And for Kirk Cousins, it's always been central. I mean, like you showed me, he's always had a guy, whether it was Rudolph or there was, you know, like Vernon Davis. this or some of these guys he had in Washington. Early on he had a few guys in Minneapolis, I might be forgetting.

But like, he's always had a tight end. He's always had somebody to go to. 2018, it was plus 0.32 EPA per attempt to tight ends. 19, it was 0.37. 2020 was 0.37, 2021 plus 0.15. All in the pluses, 22 minus 0.11. Yeah. So that's something that they're being smart and keeping an eye on.

and it's going to directly impact your chances of winning right now. And the yards per attempt to tight ends in 2018, 19, 20, and 21, it was all up around 7, 7, 8, 8 and a half. This year it's 5 and a half. And again, like the tight end is a big part of the play action that they do up there all the time. All they do is play action. And so T.J. is going to help get them out and get the ball from Kirk in space.

Yeah, it's another reason to think twice. the second level you know just puts people in conflict and so um you know for for the lions like i don't want to get into yeah it might look like they they didn't send him away for much and maybe i don't fully understand this thing but i also know brad holmes isn't dumb you know uh there's probably something we don't know about this situation i'm not saying it's like an absolute robbery like an armed robbery but he's a good player and it didn't take that much to get him another thing is you you had him under control for two more years fifth year i'll option then you could tag him maybe they somebody else needs the tag in two years or something it might just

be the timeline of extensions as well that they're thinking of in the future it also might mean that you know and the way i think they go in the next draft is obviously quarterback if i'm brad holmes and he doesn't need my help but like i'm just a fucking podcaster but i would do this i would keep jared golf another year i would keep him another year i would draft a quarterback yeah that's the way i would drive to quarterback like i want a veteran in the room uh you know you know i would keep him another you know, kind of use him as a bridge. Don't get this kid killed the first year. You're a little ways off defensively.

Maybe this kid comes along. But like you got a high pick. Draft the quarterback. Second, you're going to have the Rams pick right in the middle of the first, right? So that's a prime position with some of these picks that you've accrued maybe to move up and grab somebody else you're in love with. Maybe they're in love with Michael Mayer. Maybe Stanford Steve. Maybe Dan Campbell, Mr. Tideen, has a boner for Michael May.

Like, and he's just waiting for this motherfucker. And he's like, I will do anything possible to get that guy. And, you know, like, maybe he'll send some capital to somebody else so that he can pluck somebody like that. But it's more likely that it's a corner or safety or somebody that help on defense, right? They just fired their defensive backs coach the other day. It's like Aubrey Pleasant, right? And, you know, so if I were the lions and I'm sure some Lions fans are listening and like,

no, you're an idiot. And you might be right. You might know your team's cap situation and the whole thing better than me. I didn't have a lot of time to really think this through. I kind of like doing it that way. I like quarterback and then somebody you're in love with next year, which is probably not a hot take. But Michael Mayer is there. He'd be cheaper than T.J. Hawkinson and maybe better. Maybe Dan Campbell is so convinced. Maybe Dan Campbell and Stanford Steve are like the same person. Could be. Or Dan Campbell is just, like fuck it i'm gonna play tight end maybe yeah activated that's a good call re next week that's a good call that's a good call just get picks for this guy and i can do i can do it i still got it that's

just add one more red bull to my daily intake i was also yeah i was also thinking maybe he lists the green light pot and he's like just stanford steve just beating this into his head yeah all right so i think there's a case to be made that both teams are going to be fine here as fine as a team picking one could be. Another one we should mention is William Jackson, right? And this is the classic man's own thing. Ron Rivera admitted it. Like, he thought he was more of a zone guy and the personnel department got that wrong, I believe,

which is a crazy admission to just kind of feels like last day of school kind of admission. Like, fuck. For sure. Like, I'm just going to say it. You know, and that's, that's cool though. It's also, maybe there's nothing going on in Washington. I think it was just about saving money so like they save 3.1 million by releasing him versus what the dead cap hit would have been next year and the reason that they were wrong about the guy and the reason they're making this

decision is not a scheme fit and he fits better up in pittsburgh i think um and we just saw that happen on a bigger scale with uh j c jackson right he was a better man guy so anyways yeah it crazy day ridley to the jags i love it i love it for the jags love love love it for the jags love love love love it. Just a little call back to the, to Ridley's bet from last year, which have ultimately got him suspended because this was the game he bet on. I guess he is on the Jags for once.

Yep. There you go. Me and Ridley got one thing that is not in common. I'm not going to be on the Jags the rest of the year. DnB. You know what? Maybe they're on the D&B list for him too. Yeah, Ridley, it's time to come home.

Dude, come be a player again. I know it's a joke, but it does piss me off that he has to miss season. It's ridiculous. It's insane. Ridiculous. There's a parlay for Christ's sake. I don't even include my parlayes and I throw a bunch of I mean whatever. Okay. So he was Pete Rosen, wasn't he? Yeah. He was Pete Rosen from the couch. Didn't even know. Supporting his team. Supporting his local team. Yeah. So was there anything from Heinz getting sent to Buffalo that you liked? Zach Moss coming from Buffalo? Yeah. So what I think is interesting about this thing is Zach Moss going to Indy plus a pick, I think,

for Nahim Hines, who's a pretty good player. And Indies, yeah, we got no use for him. We're going to lose. And, you know, if you think back to the offseason, McKissick, they really wanted to make that happen right off the bat. They couldn't, right? Fell through. There was like a snag. He went to Washington instead.

Yeah, and that told him he was in and then. That would have been great. That would have been smart. It would have been smart. McKissick and McKinnon. Yep. That would have been cool. Yeah.

Okay. So yeah, I don't know. They've got a lot of fucking running backs now. They've also, the only team that's rushed for 100 yards in every game this year, I think. Did I read that stat today? Or was that? Josh Allen's part of it and having a lead's part of it.

But now they might actually feel like they have more of a rushing attack. And this guy can catch the ball to the backfield. So. And he's got three more, what, two and a half more years on his deal, only 12.5 million, 12.27 million dollars. It's tough being a running back in the NFL, man. You know, like you got to be really good. There's this sweet spot, right?

Because people aren't going to give up the world for a back unless you're like Christian McCaffrey and you can win the triple crown the first weekend. He didn't get a first round pick. That's what I'm saying. It's like you're not going to get, they're not going to back the Brinks truck up, so to speak, to rescue you. And you could be Cam Acres and sit. there. It's just like people don't want running backs that bad.

Like no, I think we're good. Running backs are like socks for Christmas as a teen. A couple of these guys are going to, you know, they got the call that they're being traded and they're now on their records have changed so much. TJ went from 1 and 6 to 6 and 1.

That's interesting. Hines is now, you know, from an AFC bottom dweller to the AFC front runner. And Bradley Chubb went from preseason Super Bowl contender to current playoff

Sleeper. Has anybody ever been like traded to a really shitty team like a... Like right on the deadline? Just like brutal. That'd be brutal. I mean, I'm sure it happens every year. Right? But that's funny. A lot of action day guys.

A lot of action day and you know, more action coming at you right now with Kyle Long. So Kyle Long and myself are going to dive into a mailbag that could go a while. So enjoy that and, you know,

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I hear we got a big fat mailbag. Big fat mailbag. You sent it out. The people sent it in. So we're going to kick it off. Damn, Reed. I like the way you did that, bro. Thank you.

If the Greenlight crew were NASCAR drivers, who would they be N. Y? That's from Travo Berg. Kyle, let's kick it off to you because you are the NASCAR residential person who knows what they're talking about. I'm going to start with Matt.

He's Kurt Bush. You guys are a little low-key wild, both of you guys. I think Kurt Busch dealt with a Russian spy as an ex-wife and, you know, I don't know what happened to that lady. Kurt Bush had a Russian spy for a wife. Save it.

That sounds fucking hot. Okay. Honestly, that's kind of hot. I'm gonna say Megan. What if Meg was a Russian spy and you didn't know it? I'd have to disappear her. Okay.

Good luck. Macon Brad Kislauski. They're dead ringers for one another. Chris, I'm gonna go Kevin Harvick for you just based on personality. He's the salty old vet. I hate every time my driver's out front, it's always Kevin Harvick that ever takes him.

at the end of the right. It's always Kevin Harvick. Oh, it's like Marsha, Marsha. This sounds like, hey, you know, he's something you tell me I'm projecting.

Yeah. This could be you projecting. It is, but it's intentional. Read, Chase Elliott. He's cool, right? I think,

and I wrote down a few things, versatile, handsome, cool under any circumstance, and a vintage appreciator. I know you and I were talking about old school music the other day played a show.

Chase Elliott has an appreciation for the old school as well. A great Hooters spokesman. Yeah, Hooter spokesman. Is he really? Yes. And a road course dominator.

I'm going to go, Scott looks just like Ricky Stenhouse Jr. You think Scott's wrecking people? Pull it up. Pull up Ricky Stenhouse Jr.' As I'm pulling up Bose. Ricky Stenhouse looks like Shia LaBuff? And Ricky Stenhouse Jr. And Scott.

No, he doesn't look. Hey, you prefer the other words. He has different facial hairs at all. You know, there's a lot of different stuff. Look at his wedding. Bo, I've got you as Noah Gregson. And this is a big compliment. He's Bass Pro Shops, Black Rifle Coffee,

cool guy, fun guy. He's got great flow. Look at that flow. Jesus. That's Bo. If he had husky eyes, you'd say that's Bo Allen. Yeah, no, no, that's a fucking,

that's an elite head of lettuce. And I was going to say about Ricky Stenhouse, who is my side driver, I selected him based on talking to people in the crowd when we went to Richmond. They say he just crashes into people randomly, which is really entertaining. Makes it fun.

I didn't peg him for a poodle guy. He has a poodle. Yeah, look back at the Google image search of Ricky Stenhouse. All these drivers come with wives and with wives come hobbies. And sometimes those hobbies are poodles. I just didn't peck him as a, you know what I'm saying, Matt? As a poodle guy. Absolutely.

Okay, so Bo, Noah Gregson, Ralph, I'm going to go Bubba Wallace, not only because he's black, but because of the fact that Bubba Wallace is so fashion-forward, he is at the top of the pop culture charts and whenever I get something sent to me from Ralph that's not show oriented, it's always like, hey, check out this golf company. I think you would like them. They're like low key.

It's stuff that my cool friends send me and that's what Ralph is. He's a cool guy. Bubba's cool guy. And yeah, for me, I don't really have one, probably Kyle Bush, because I say some shit that I might regret but I'm going to stick to it.

You know what I'm saying? Kyle Bush, I feel like you always pick the person you like the most. And isn't that your favorite driver? Bush is a freak. You can't teach talent. I like that you said it out loud. Yeah. I'm a fucking freak. I like that Kyle made me and you, me and you brothers rather than you too. So that was a great question. Oh yeah, you guys are brothers. We're brothers. Yeah. Well, because he was trying to fuck you last show. Now shit is definitely side. I'm here for it. You guys are just passing

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And 9.30, November 5th, you see some great people for a great cause. What was on Kyle's pregame playlist as a player? This was from Stanford Steve 82. Stanford, Steve, thank you for bringing my mind back to the locker room, sitting next to Bobby Massey and full pads. Before every game, I'd be sitting there getting my tape and everything on,

and Bobby Massey would come over with an iPhone speaker, not even like headphones or anything. The only guy in the locker room listening to a speaker. Code break. And it's Ted Nugent Stranglehold. Yes. And who's going to call us on it? I mean, the other side of the locker room is the D-Line.

Far regions of the locker room. Right. So we got the quiet corner. We're listening to Ted Nugent Stranglehold. Dun, dun, dun, dun, uh,

oh, that's a fucking. They're like, two to the two. Or they're like, you know, O-Line, D-Line, line,

linebackers, five minutes. Every football player knows that. Yes, I know. And it brings you back. But if you have a buddy that you listen to something, I tell people in the pot a lot, I don't know if you're me and Fletch and Death Row,

the Stapled In song. I have to listen to it. Oh, you don't know Death Row? I have to listen to it. Bro, Death Row will get you. It's slow, but it'll get you going. And another one was, and back in St. Louis,

I used to listen to Roy Jones. I swear to God, I used to listen to Roy Jones, the boxer rapping. Do you know Roy Jones's music? I'm not familiar with his music. It's fucking crunk, Kyle. Well, Pastor Troy, a little Roy Jones.

After Troy, Thomas Davis and I talked about pre-game songs. He said, Pastor Troy. What's the one song by Pastor Troy? Vice versa. Vice versa. Vice versa. Who, what, when, where? There's a bunch of fucking bangers he's got, bro.

I wonder how guys play for 16 years. It's because of Pastor Troy. You should. Yeah, Pastor Troy is a performance enhancer, dude. He really is. Yeah. Yeah, it should be on the band's substance list. Clause Gold wants to know your rating for Kyle Brandt's Howie Long costume, one to 10 scale.

On 11. A dad. He looked like. Dad is my rating. Yeah. Like I was disturbed, bro. I woke up, it was like 6 a.m. I woke up to come to the Monday show. And I saw that on Twitter and I was like, Jesus, this is like, am I in a bad dream?

Would you be afraid of dad if he was like, you know, he's scary God? but it's obviously his size because I'm not afraid of Kyle Brandt he looked just like dad imagine if our dads were like six foot I'm afraid that tall is Kyle Brant we just take identities he could well yeah it's like got that face where he can just like steal he can morph into whoever man's identity yeah but you know what though he does look a lot like how he long he does he looks a lot like dad shout out to his hair guy whoever did his hair crushed it have we told the story about when Kyle Brandt came to the bottom of the stairs the day you were supposed to have that workout with the

Yankees the Yankees the New York Yankees yeah do we did have we ever told that story out I don't know well I can read do you remember this story work where it just you know we did it's a dynamite segue into this story from Kyle Brandt because he looks like that but I'm just imagine Kyle Brandt delivering you bad news I'll be like like Kyle brand alone Kyle brand dad Kyle brand sending you to your room like he's looking up at you do you do you do you remember this story about Kyle when he missed his workout with the Yankees? Yeah. Bad morning. Came down the stairs. Hey, Kyle, I ran to the top of the stairs when I woke up naturally, like to sunlight or whatever, and I ran to the top of stairs and my dad was standing there looking up at me,

and he goes, you missed your Yankees workout. And that was it. No, no, there was a whole thing, supposedly Howie as an eyewitness said he was up the stairs and he was watching as he was. ways. He's just watching you get disciplined. It's probably cheering dad on. But like, you go, no. And dad goes, yes. And then you, and then you go,

no. And dad just goes, yes. And it was like back and forth for 35 seconds. And then you just went back in your room. The rest of your life. He just went back in. But holy shit, Kyle. Raw Room said I didn't realize there was two Kyle's. What did he say?

I was holy shit and missing the fucking Yankees workout, bro. What were you thinking? I don't know, man. I fucking, sometimes I think about the shit that happened to me that I did when I was 17 and 18. And I'm like, what the fuck was I? Me too, buddy, okay?

Yeah. But just nobody, nobody's, Eric McGrane used to say every dumb thing you do from today on. I remember it was like the first scholarship I got. Shout out to Wookie. He was like, every dumb thing that you do when you're not with me you're writing somebody a check he's like I want you to know that by not getting the check yeah by pissing away an opportunity yeah yeah yeah somehow you're leaking somewhere yeah

yeah yeah yeah and i and that haunts me that quote haunts me because i know how many potential checks i lost that on as a youngster that's really funny though because you yeah yeah yeah yeah you fucked around but then you found out i found out my one for both of you uh Zach C9 1988 asks Chris, Fuck Mary Kill, Brady, Nick Foles and Bradford. Kyle, fuck Mary, kill, Jay Cutler, Mitch Trubiskey, and Pat Mahomes. I know the paintout option in yours. So, no, and Kyle, that's where I'm going.

Okay, so like, definitely going to kill Nick Foles. No offense to the guy. He's like perfect human being. He's too perfect. So I got to kill him. He can't. That ain't happening. Not that that's happening in general, but like, I just things.

So Tom Brady Probably gonna F Tom Brady You know he's got a sweet house now He's a bachelor He might have to be medically enhanced though In that situation No what are you talking about He's 45

No you mean oh you mean he no Well that that's great I'm fucking Tom Brady Yeah I'm fucking Tom Brady All right And then uh And then I got a I gotta marry Sam Bradford Because Sam not only

He's rich Me and Sam have a lot of the same interests like Sam to me you know as you get older in life they're your buddies and then they're they're like your vacation buddies like me and Sam can go on vacation which brings me my last point we can be we can for four days me and Sam can go somewhere no problem yeah we're so similar and so different at the same time that's what works also

Sam doesn't like to fucking talk much like Sam you know we'll just sit there quiet for a while and that's great right he's like a hunter and a golfer neither of which like we're big. Oh yeah, yeah, honey, go play golf all day. Yeah. No problem. Come back.

We'll look at the board for Sunday. So I got to fuck Mary, kill who. So you got to. Jay Cutler, Mitch Trubisky, and Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, Kyle initially was like, I'm not doing this. Okay.

Well, this was Jay Cutler, Mitch Trubisky, Patrick Mahomes. I'm going to, I'm going to marry Jay because it's not going to work. Oh, good. So I didn't know you could divorce. That's a really good answer. I got to kill one of the two quarterbacks, Mitch or Patrick. Man. Here's where I would have gone, Kyle.

Yeah, you're right. You're right. This is a tough spot. Elope with Jay Cutler. Okay, I'm just going to think fiscally here, and I know that Patrick's family is going to be set. So I'm going to keep Mitch alive, and we're going to go play golf, and we might have sex. Who? You and Mitch?

Yeah, yeah. What do you mean, though? Patrick's heat take care of you. man, he's set. I kill him. Everybody's set. Oh, okay. Got it.

Yes. Yeah, yeah. You're doing his family a favor. We're all good here. Weren't you Mr. Manifest a second ago? Yeah. Well, we had to play this second. Yeah.

Okay, go. Which coaching position, if offered, would you accept without hesitation? That's from Mitch McKinley. Which coaching position? And here I, here I was. saying the NFL or the NCAA? Count both. College NFL. Oh, Justin Herbert.

It's not the Chargers. It's Justin Herbert. I would love to coach the Justin Herbert's. That's who it is. Because look at them. It's a miracle that they're competitive. Some of the decisions they make. I don't like jumping on bandwagons, but it doesn't feel like they're getting the most out of Justin Herbert. I feel like if I can if I can fucking get a sweet pad and

I don't know, like pick my beach town, Kyle. Manhattan Beach, probably. You'd be a Manhattan Beach. Manhattan Beach guy. Come in to work like 9 a.m. with a coffee because caffeine's not going to affect me. I'm probably going to have some great doctor out there that's going to, you know, fix my salt in the air. My brain chemistry.

Right? Salt in the air. Come in. Hey, Justin, no need to check it down. I just whisper like that to him every morning. Tremendous yields. He would be a lot. of fun to coach he's a stud I mean Josh Allen would be fun to coach as well yeah but it's cold

yeah it's cold but they got heaters at the stadium I'm just saying red lights what about driving to work I'm gonna be sitting in traffic if I had the opportunity to coach at the pro level I would obviously want to be I would love to start out in some assistant role on the offense with the Chicago Bears so I'd love to oh you're being serious I'd love to coach the offensive line for the bears um a great coaching staff on the O-line requires a really smart assistant O-line coach. And I wouldn't be a coach that knows all the X's and O's. But I understand the technique of the game and I know how the game's played. You need a guy to be able to teach schemes and draw the blitzes up.

Is there a trade happening that I don't know about? Did the bears just send over a fucking conditional, no offense? No, but I wore my bears hat, not knowing this question was going to happen. Conditional six? I coach in high school. It's fun, it's fun, but I want it to be fun and more than fun. Like, I want to immerse myself in the game. Like, I love football like that.

This feels like tampering. It also feels like, you know, the high school players need you. And here you are saying, like, that's great and all, but, you know, like, I kind of want to coach some good players. I think it would be fun to fully immerse yourself in football. How? Do not go anywhere, please. I'm not going to Chicago. Okay.

They have a good old line coach. Yeah, they don't pay well. You know, NFL. position coaching jobs compared to some of these college jobs. Last time I checked, they offered Olin Croutes, $16 an hour to come in a coach. Is that what they did?

Yeah, I believe so. Yeah, well, you're probably safe because, yeah, more than 16 here, but... Yeah. From that mutt digit, hardest injury to play through and easiest to play through. First thing that comes to mind is ankle, right?

Like, ankle is really hard to play through for me, at least. It's an alignment. Yeah. When you're in flexion, As an o-linment, when you're sitting on a bull rush, your knees are bent and your butts down and your ankles are flexed, like, you know, flexed this way. And when you have an ankle sprain, that's like the most painful spot to be in.

Running sucks, changing direction sucks. And the easy thing for me, or easier relative to lower body injuries is the shoulder stuff. Fingers are also extremely hard to play with. Yeah, fingers are the worst because you feel like such a, like as you're screaming about, fuck I jam my finger or something like that that sounds so minor you're thinking how the fuck do I sound right now you know what I mean John Fox used to make fun of me every time he went to the podium and gave the injury report he used to make fun I broke three fingers on my right hand yeah and he roasted him about it every day in the media you should have John Fox come down to your locker

smash his hand with a hammer see how he feels he would do it he's a sick fuck yeah well I guess he's never had a broken finger I um he shut up with broken ribs one day to press I had a fucking did he Well, the coach. He fell on a dock. He fell on a dock on the bike. Yeah. Hey, guys, be smart this weekend. How about you follow your own fucking advice, John?

Yeah. No offense. Hey, no, I like John Fox. We're both pro John Fox. He's great. LPJ. Walsh, Phillies and Birds playing the same night. How do you handle that viewing for the common man? Oh, I'll tell you how you handle that viewing for the common man.

you skip the Eagles game. They're playing the Texans. The Texans got beat by Malik Willis this weekend. I think it's fair to say the Eagles are going to have a lot of football games the rest of the year. You watch the Phillies. No questions asked.

Now, if you have a laptop and you have some sort of fucking Amazon account and you can follow all the prompts and the passwords and the fingerprint IDs and the hard. I mean, fuck me running. And I love it. Amazon and everything. Give me a chip already.

Give me the neural link. No, don't give me the chip. All my stuff. Just give me cable. Like the old days. Just give me cable TV with all the football. Is there a package for the American man, the aging American man that includes all the football and channels one through 67? In a microwave. Like a hotel, like give me a hotel cable package with all the football.

Yeah. I'll buy that package. I think it's way less complicated than the thing that we have currently. Give me a previous channel button. I'll flip back and forth from the Phillies. Perfect. I just say stay home. I know the common man was the key words there,

but if you were planning on going to either game, don't. Just hang out and watch at your couch. Those stadiums are publicly funded anyways. We can't reinforce that behavior. On a civic level, the common man should boycott sports. I agree, Chris.

Yep. What goes on the big? screen at the bar though in Philly. The Phillies. Oh, the Phillies. The Phillies, man. Everybody's got a phone. Somebody's going to be watching over, you know, somebody's shoulder at every street corner. And if you haven't noticed, there's a lot of stoppage in baseball. There's time to pop back and see how many times A.J. Brown has scored a touchdown.

Anytime touchdown score, I think so. Especially this Thursday. Matt Mullenar's sixth ass favorite and least favorite football-related sports. smells. I like this one. I curated it just for you. Worst, least favorite, the bathroom before a game. Like, number one.

Number one. Just, you know, you're just trying to take a league. Every day. Well, yeah, right before practice. I don't know what it is about NFL players. Six stalls, 90 guys. Bro, there's nothing cool about shitting like a bunch of cattle. Like, terrible.

Like, at all. Can we stagger the times that we're dropping deuses here? Can we have a circadian rhythm meeting? We have guys sneaking into women's bathrooms to take shit. Dude, there's a bathroom in every facility that's like a secret bathroom. It's like a secret menu. Not like that fucking in and out bullshit or whatever. Like, oh, it's a secret animal style.

Oh. Oh. So different. Oh. It's so lit. It's not as good as people say. No, it's not. Thank you.

Yeah. Well, you know, you got to go to the back. You got to ask the 17-year-old behind the cash register where the secret menu is um okay but there's a secret shitter in every every NFL a clean one it's like the the the viol the harp plays i don't want to docks but if there's any of you listening on the philadelphia eagles there's a shitter through the back door in the training room it uh it's it's technically not part of the uh the the football facility but uh you'll know what i'm talking about it's the back wall the back wall next to the Cairo

table there next to all the stuff where you do core work you will find it if any of you are listening thank me later through the door to the right peaceful shit to wait so worse smells

and best smells oh worse smells and best smells for me I think tape a fresh roll of tape before a game yeah the smell of a locker room filled with freshly cleaned

everything. How the grass. I'm getting there. Yeah, okay. And then walking out onto the field and getting all that stuff nasty because of the grass, which smells delicious. And then your fingers are number two worst. After a game, your fingers with gloves. Oh, that shit sticks.

How about some guys cast? Casts are bad. You've got to get them cut off. Who died and rolled around in dick cheese, man? Casts are bad. Casts are terrible. All right. So, Good, good smells. Walking into the cafeteria after practice and they got something just slapping back.

Yeah, some fucking potato, some potato derivatives. Broccoli. Just like some starches. And then the pizza. Yeah, you run in, you're like, coach is like, how was it out there? Got some CT. Well, I got some potato derivatives in there. I got some starches.

Get your starches. Get hydrated. You got meetings in 17 minutes. Yeah. Yeah, 17 minutes. 17 minutes. Get all your tape off. Try to shower.

Try to get a cold tub. Try to eat some food. Try to steal as many of these. Try to watch film on your own. Any lights as you can before you leave. Yep. You got meetings in 17 minutes. D-line coach is going to watch the same cut up that you've been watching since camp so he can look busy.

Man. Yeah. Kyle, it's a different world in D-Line room. You're over there. We call it wood shop. We say, what the fuck are they even doing over there? All they do is put. put their hand in the dirt and rush the quarterback.

And God damn it, you should be thankful. And get home. The only thing that they need to know is this is my gap and that's your gap. He was like, that's because it's a harder job. The world we lived in as a linemen are so much different. That's because it's a harder job, Kyle. What is?

Being a defensive lineman, otherwise they wouldn't pay us so fucking much money and they wouldn't give it to us for knowing so little. It's a fucking hard job to execute. They pay you guys so much money because you go after the, no, it's all numbers based. they pay you guys so much money because you go after the most expensive guy they pay us just under what you guys make

because we protect the expensive guy no no don't we I know you play tackle some but the guys on the edges protectors and receivers you know receivers and defenders are paid accordingly even playing too much chess this is what it is Chris it's a break that's how it's broken down priority levels there are less great pass rushers

pass rushers are closest to the most expensive players on the field and who stands between them and the quarterback, the O line. Kyle, how many teams are like, are like, how many Joe Burrow teams are there, or Cincinnati Bengals teams are there going to the Super Bowl? You got to have a good D-line.

You can't get by with that. You can't scheme up a bad D-line. Like, if you can't get home, you can't get home. The Patriots do it. The Patriots do it because they don't have pass rushers, but, well, they do now, but like there are years that they've kind of, they've fudged it, whether they, you know, the year I was there, we didn't have

any dominant edge rushers. They schemed up pressure, which is kind of why I hated it there. It was because it was like, let us win, you know. I didn't hate it there. I loved it from a schematic standpoint. You know, like most times, you got to have those guys up front. I'm not saying it's not hard to play O-line. I'm just saying there's less of us running around this motherfucker.

If you have a dominant O-line. So we over in Woodshop and we're twiddling our thumbs, but when it's time to go. Let's say it's the hypothetical Super Bowl. And the AFC representative has a really dominant O-line. The NFC representative. as a dominant D-line. Who do you pick to win the game if the quarterbacks are equal

and the receivers are equal? The D-line, bro. Well, that's why Patrick... That's why Patrick Mahomes lost the fucking bucks. I would pick the O-line. It had nothing to do with their team. I think it was just such a polarity of the skill gap was so far.

Well, I know that wasn't a situation. The rare scenario that you're talking about, it rarely happens. But Tom Brady got beat by D-Lyman. I mean, Tom Brady got beat by the Giants twice. And that O-line in New York was pretty good, I think. I mean, they were pretty good. But it's just when you got them dogs, we over there, you know.

I guess it's just whatever we believe is right. That's exactly right. That's why we're here. That's why we're on this podcast because we're going to say some different shit and we're going to agree to disagree. I wonder, that's an interesting, that's an interesting debate, though. I don't know what the debate is. I brought it up to Bill Cowher on air and he said, oh, I want a dominant O line seven days a week.

He was like, I want, he goes. But that's not what we're talking about. What we're talking about is is. I said, would you rather have a dominant O line or Dominant D. It's a harder job. job to do. And I know some guys will say it's, you know, like, because the root of this question were bulls. We're bulls, because you guys are the bulls. You guys are the guys. And we got to work against the clocks. You guys are the reason that people go to the games. If they're not there

to see points, they're there to watch Von Miller's and Chris Longs and Robert Quinn's. Don't put me in there. But Jeff Schwartz, but Jeff Schwartz would be rolling over in his fucking, I don't know, he's not in a grave. People are not there to watch us. In his podcast studio. I love you, Jeff. I love Jeff. He's probably so mad listening to it. You and your brother were tremendous bullfighters. Yes. And I get it. I mean, we're al-alignment. We take tremendous pride. I'm just saying

there's a reason simplicity is the thing over there. Like, we don't have, like, if the D-line is good, like, our fucking D-line in St. Louis, it took five minutes to install what we were doing. It was all about then honing our rush plan. Yeah. But also what I'm saying is there's a lot of bad D-line

coaches that don't take time, and we just do the same bullshit over and over to because it's easy to fudge being a D-Line coach. It is not easy to fudge being a fucking O-line coach. An O-line coach has to really answer for scheme every day of the week. We're an integral part of the offense's success. Yeah, and D-Line coaches, you can get by. I could coach D-Line in the NFL.

No disrespect to D-Line coaches from a schematic standpoint. And I'm not a football genius. You know what I mean? See, I'm not, I couldn't coach O-Line from a schematic standpoint. Because they're fucking geniuses, dude. We couldn't be any more opposite you and I. Yeah, I know. That's true.

So I want to get your take on this. Philly fans broke a window on the Astros bus. And Justin Verlander threw them the bird. I love that. I mean, you wouldn't want Justin Verlander to throw actually a baseball at you. So I'm having to be the peaceful option there. And I like Justin Verlander.

Oh, my God. Justin Verlander. Yeah, I met Justin Verlander in the Bahamas. I was getting ready to lift weights. a guy just rifling a baseball outside the, you know, I was like, who's this fucking guy? Outside the what? So, okay, so anyways. There's just a guy rifling a baseball.

So here I got, yeah, exactly. I'm on vacation. I'm in the Bahamas. I'm at this place called the Albany. You see me wear a backwards hat a lot. It says the Albany. I'm not like, this is a, hey, I go one time. It's not like I go to the Albany every couple weeks.

That fucking place is expensive. Here we go. Justin Bieber was there. He was, did I tell you about Justin Bieber? No, I want to hear about it. Yeah, they were like staying him and Haley, who, you know, I know nothing about, really, but they were staying here and people were like,

Justin Peeber's here, oh my God, oh my God, but you can't take pictures there, and not that I would. But anyways, herdy was there, go to the gym, I'm getting swole, and I'm,

and I need the, the, you know, the dumbbells, and I look over and Justin Peeber's working out. He was working out next to me for like 10 minutes. I didn't, you know, like I know what he looks like, but.

Was he moving some weight around? He had a good workout routine. Good for him. And I was like, hey, bro, like, you know, can I use that machine? And I was like, I'm definitely not trying to talk to him. But, you know, he probably thinks people are constantly. And he was like, yeah, man, no problem. You know, like, he's just like, the fucking man.

And I watched him walk around the fucking room. And he was so positive and happy in every interaction. Like, then Justin Timberlake walks in. And I'm like, that's just the Justin's here. Then I walk outside, bro. And I never put this together until now. Three justins. Because Justin Verlander.

Oh, my God. Bro, Justin Verlander's outside the damn weight room. They got this little turf area where I was doing some, you know, like some, you know, get outside and sweat type of shit. And I'll be damn, this guy's throwing the shit out of the baseball. And I'm like, who's this dad just playing baseball? I was like, yeah, I understand like playing football on the beach. I understand like working out at the beach.

It's not like a young man. No, yeah. I understand like pushing a sled out there because there's a sled like regular people can do that. I'm doing that. I don't do shit anymore. And I'm like, damn, bro. Like, who is this guy? And I'm sitting there and I'm like, you play or something like that? And the guy's like, yeah. And he told me who he was. Not like that. And I was like, oh, fuck. Yeah. I know Ben Verlander from Twitter.

I know exactly who you are now. I know who you are now. Like, and he's from Virginia. They're both from Virginia, Ben and Justin. And he was so fucking cool, dude. And so I was like, man, this is where the coolest Justin's on the planet come to hang out. The coolest most elite justins go to the Albany. Justin Trudeau would never. Could never. Could never. He goes to the wherever. Yeah, but it was cool. That's amazing. Isn't that crazy? You know, I wish I could just hear that like imagine. He was so nice to. Imagine watching Justin Verlander throw like an easy pen with nobody around, no cameras, no coaches. I didn't think about it that way at that point. These guys are supposed to be monitored by

a dozen people every time they touch a baseball. I don't know that he was, like, I don't want to fuck up the technical. No, no, I'm saying. He was throwing a full, beat bullpen, but he was doing a rehab bullpen. And he's a big guy, dude. Tall guy. He could play. I told him, I go, bro, you're, like, you're bigger and more jacked like than I figured.

And I think he was being all humble about it. I was like, I think you play tight end in the NFL. I wish I could have heard the ball. And then he saw what T.J. Hawkinson went for. And you're like, maybe I should just keep being a great person. Who's catching for Justin Verlander? Some guy. That goes with him.

Probably another Justin. There's eyeballs right there. Probably another Justin. But it was a magical place, beautiful place. That's my dream job. At a water slide at Justin's. Catching for pitchers on vacation. That's good.

You should apply. Also can do security. And I'm left-handed if you want to throw to a lefty. Would you just leave down? Why is Matt cringing? Because you don't think it's a good job? Sometimes pitching and catching is used to be. Oh, that's good.

That's good. Especially considering, Who are you going on vacation with again? Fuck, marry, kill Justin, Justin or Justin? Who you? Oh, oh, easy. Killing Justin Timberlake. No offense. Love Justin Timberlake, but took Jessica Beal away from the rest of the general population. You got to die.

Kill them. You got to die. And then, um, and then, uh, I think, I think, I think, I think you got to marry Justin Verlander. Seam chill as fuck. Yeah. And you know, Bieber, you know, everybody's fucking home. Yeah. Just another.

Yeah. small sample in his giant sample size okay next Reid you answer the question Reid goddammit I would marry

Justin Verlander kill Justin Bieber and fuck the other Justin really oh yeah oh yeah sing to you in the mornings wait you're just

fucking him or you marrying him no I'm fucking Justin Timberlake marrying Justin Burlander you might sing in the morning, but on the mornings. There's nothing to walk away. No, he had a banger.

He had a banger ballad back in college. That was the jam. I can't. Cry me a river. No, it wasn't cry me a river. Great one. Until the end of time, bro. The pipes on that song are incredible.

What goes around? I'm just reading a couple here. Until the end of time is today's layup line, guys. See how that works? Yeah? Sultry. Little sort of average looking motherfucker that... Sultry.

Married to Jessica Beal. No, he's cool. He's got to be cool. I saw him at the gym. He's got game. They look at Justin Pugh's passport. He's like, no, you can't... They'll let Justin Pue in.

You think? I like Justin. I would like Justin Pugh. Why do I like Justin Pugh so much? Because he's the man. He just seems cool. He's got a great beard. He was one of the first guys when I was playing.

They got a beard. trimmer deal he was on like you know Gillette yeah just send some love to our guy Justin Pew if you know Justin Pew tell him we love just we love Justin Pew they told me and one time he got a fight he got in a fight allegedly no it wasn't alleged it was on NFL network he was peace and fools bro it was a training camp I was like yeah he can actually fight Justin fuse a goon going back to talking about musicians Kyle this is one you'll get excited about Taylor Swift set a record on her new album with 10 songs in the billboard top 10 Are you on this album?

You, uh, pro? I'm 10 out of 10 supportive of Taylor Swift. It's, I don't ride around in my car listening to Taylor Swift, but one thing I respect about her is I think she signed a bad deal early in her career and when she had mega success. And whoever took ownership of her tracks, I'm not sure what that's called. Um, somebody owned her music that wasn't named Taylor Swift. And she went back and re-recorded.

Yeah, Kanye's mad at her. She went back and re-recorded all of her own stuff. and now owns new versions of her songs and fans love her so much that they bought the new stuff. And now she comes out with this album and it's all I hear around the house because Kate loves Taylor Swift. Huge Taylor Swift fan.

I know there's so many out there, but yeah, I hear a lot of it. Excited for Taylor. Kevin Clark had a Twitter poll. He wants to know if the money is equal and you have to take one head coaching job for the next three years and you cannot quit, which is it?

Auburn. Auburn It's got to be Auburn Yeah I don't want I feel like You get a nice mild winter

You get Location to a lot of summer Next to a toilet You know what I'm saying In Auburn I'm sure you can make it To the Florida panhandle pretty quick You can get down there to Pensacola

Go see your buddies down there Gulf Shores Gulf Shores Alabama Fred Robbins King of Colola Morgan Wall volunteer concert you know I can't get into that guy shit Kyle this is what I like about us yeah we're different it would suck if we were the same yeah I'd just be like oh I agree

agree that's great yeah it's cool Morgan Wallin's great his music is great I will rephrase that Morgan Wallis music is great oh yeah the thing about him I mean uh yeah I think he's got company uh there that doesn't make it right but I think there's probably a lot of those artists that you might like that might have yeah you know Some checkered off camera. I'm just glad they don't do research projects on a lot of the guys we grew up listening. I'm glad that you guys picked Auburn because as we talked about earlier, Emo Yodoka is now, you know, could be the Nets head coach and the Nets are looking for a PR coordinator right now.

On, you know, LinkedIn right now, Brooklyn Nets LLC, public relations. coordinator. Wow. Holy shit, dude. Apply on Salary.com. Anybody wants to be the PR person for the

Brooklyn Nets. Head on to New York. Go to salary.com. There you go. Get yourself a job. Take initiative. Thank you, Reed.

Don't you think, like, they need the Navy SEALs for this? Like, they need the Navy SEALs of PR people, but they're asking, like, back page. Right. You know, like there's pretty low,

but they need someone who's actually really qualified. Yeah, dude. Yeah. The winner here is the state of New Jersey. We need to kill Osama bin Laden. No longer with the Nets. Yeah,

in New Jersey. Thank good riddens. Go to Brooklyn. Stay there. The state, yeah, go, but honestly,

like, I'm thinking about like the Marines or like the, the military, grabbing the guy who had the special leprecon flute.

You remember him? to kill Osama bin Laden we need to kill the most dangerous terrorist of all time and that's why we're in the merchant marines yeah I didn't want to I didn't want to I'm not casting a spurt way aspersons is not I'm not carrying stones at the the merchant marines I got a question for Jay-Z because they'll fucking kill you he said the nets could go

0 for 82 and I'd look at you like the shit's gravy yeah is the shit still gravy of I think he sold his share in the team. I think I think, I think. I think he's, I think he's, I think he's really, I think things are gravy for him

because he's not having to deal with this bullshit. You need, you need, you're, bro, think about the people applying for this job. I don't know. Could be a problematic take.

What we got? And so two nights game, everyone's last night, Brandon Graham will be throwing out the first pitch. He says he's a little nervous. A little. He was asked if, He's cooking up a fastball or some off speed.

Graham says he just wants to get it over the plate. We've talked about multiple times both of your first pitch, um, incidences. Incidences, yeah. What can we offer up BG? I would say do not go all the way out onto the mound.

Do not stand on the rubber, BG. There's, put your pride aside, stand right where the mound ends in front of the mound. So it's a shorter throw. When you get up there on that hill, yeah,

it's hard. The stadium seems really, big and it seems like a lot longer than what it is. The angle's tough from up there. Get your photo up. Make sure you smile big for the cameras and just nice little rainbow up there. And warm up. You know, the two times that I've thrown a first pitch out,

once for the St. Louis Cardinals, once for the Charlestville Tom sucks, I was late. Not late. I just didn't get a lot of time warming up. You know what I mean? I would argue too much warm up could lead to hubris. Yeah, you're right.

You're right. I showed up an hour and a half. half early for the white so that's overthinking it you want to be in the groove of like five to seven minutes of catch okay you don't want to be in the the 30 plus minutes of catch and you don't want to be three throws that's kind of what I did at the Charlottesville tom socks and that was fine I got off the snide at a strike but yeah like uh bg man good luck good luck get in front of the mound bg there were a couple here that that popped up and I wanted to bring to the table this is from Mitch McKinley

is Cowboy Reed the Zodiac Killer. And I think that's interesting. I don't know why. I think it's interesting, but I think it's interesting. Why do they think you're the Zodiac Killer? I don't know. That's a good question. Let's have them on.

What about me emotes? Serial killer. Yeah. Well, he moats. Well, works a lot. Like sometimes you're like, oh, I'm working on the show. You could be killing somebody or something like that.

Yeah. We got to inspect his vehicle. Honestly, we need to go. Zip ties. Yeah. I do have some zip ties. He had a drill earlier. Why?

Yep. He had a drill. Why do I have a zip tie? What are you zip tying? Hey, man, if, you know, zip ties need to be used on the car or, you know, just around town. You just zip tie in the car? Zip ties are a great tool. That is interesting.

Very Zodiac. He has zip ties at the work, like. I don't get it, man. Zip ties are great. They need, you can use them anywhere for anything. Ancles. A lot of different things. Yeah.

He's got some of those fucking napkins that they put over that guy's face in Ace Ventura. Hydroform? Yeah, chloroform. He's got a bunch of chloroform. I don't have any chloroform. I have a lot of napkins in my car. Hey, does this smell like chloroform? What is the highest level of professional sport you can do well stoned?

That is from Mitch McKinley as well. Cast a wide net. The NFL. Yeah, I think so. I mean, that's, I don't think so. I'm not, they test for anything else. I'm not saying I played Stone, but I know, like, you could, you could do it. You could do it.

If I was in peak physical condition right now, if I can do this mailbag, I can set a fucking edge, dude. No problem. I, uh, I had, I had an incident in, in 2015. I swear to God. Like a Nate Collins incident. Nate Collins. Go ahead.

I had, uh, I had eaten an edible to go to sleep. Mm-hmm. and I ate way too much. And the lingering effects stuck with me for the noon game the following day. And it was like pulling teeth to get me out on the field. Really?

You know, like, how'd you play? You ever seen where they like opened the barn door for these animals in the wintertime and they walk up to the edge where the snow is and they go, ah, fuck that.

Yeah, they walked back inside. Yeah. That was kind of me. And then I went out and played and I got ragdolled like three plays in the first quarter and I was like, my life is over.

I'm getting fired tomorrow. Yeah. And then you kill. And then I was like, football, you know, and it became fun. And it became like going to watch the movie stone. It was like, this is fun. Blocking's fun. I don't feel anything.

Damn, bro, because Nate said he took one in, when he was playing for the Winnipeg, Jets. The Bombers, yeah, Jets is the sorry. Sorry, Nate. But the bombers, he was on the bombers. And he said he took an edible and was high for like two days and played up in Canada. and uh huh didn't he wasn't that his last game yeah he got yeah it the part of the story that was the that was the punchline of that story i did not get fired no you didn't you continued to play

but there were times Kyle where you know since we're sharing you know like night games this is a very real thing now i'm you know me Kyle night games great topic you know me bro you know me am I about my shit? You are about your shit. I'm about my shit. I'm going to get my fucking job done and it means a lot to me. It means a lot to me and I'll do everything I can to be ready for the game. But Sunday mornings, it's a lot of time in the hotel.

So much time. And I have anxiety and I'm going to go play a football game at night and I'm fucking, you know, I got a smoke in the morning. And you know what? That's not a big deal because I'm not high at night, but what I could be sometimes because I just would try so hard to go to sleep. I would, you know, do every, because I can't sleep really without it. Yeah. So I'm trying, I'm trying to go to sleep and take my nap. So I don't have to be sitting there in that room doing

nothing and just thinking and ruminating. And so I go to sleep and then I wake up and I'm like fucking half awake, man, until probably like 90 minutes before kickoff. But there were some days where I was just pounding the coffee like four or five cups to just try to start the engine. The window was getting close to kick off. Yeah. And you're like, damn, it is a little, I'm in the hot tub right now. I'm a little bit. Jaguars guy who's like, slap me in the face. Yeah,

like Henderson, bro. Slap me in the face. Like, no harder, please. Yeah. Does we make you worse

at golf, Kyle? I think I'm just bad with or without it. I couldn't tell you. I don't know if that's the variable that we need to have in question. Maybe that's my problem in golf.

I feel like bowling, you could be high too. I feel like bowling, you could, yeah, I'll go out there. It is I. It is I.

Bowl. What did the guy say? Who do you think you are? I am. Who do you think you are? I am. That guy was high. That's something I would say.

That's something I would say. That's something I would say. That's something I would say. I'd be out there bowling a perfect game. Screaming. Yeah, fuck. Bullers are chill, though. And the only bowlers we know are the guy who's like,

nobody fucks with the Jesus. And, Bernie the Crackin. And this guy. Yeah. And country boys who like to go around old keglers. Caglers. Yeah. Modern Warfare 2 did just come out. Yeah. And you know I play a lot of video games. And I know that you like Call of Duty, but you don't like the war zone aspect of it. You like playing real multiplayer.

Can I get you on there and play with me? To play multiplayer? Yeah. Yeah. Team Deathmatch, Search and Destroy. Oh, yeah. Headquarters. Headquarters. Capture the headquarters. What are you playing this Call of Duty on? I play on PC, but you can play on your whatever console and we can play together.

I would love that. What console? PC, Xbox. Oh, okay. Or PlayStation Xbox or consoles? I think I have a PlayStation. Great. Can you get me, if I pay you? No.

Can you get me a PlayStation? You can't pay me enough to do that. You can borrow my Xbox. Really? Yeah. Wait, what's the, like, what's the best thing I, you know, like, let's say I want to start over. Either PlayStation 5 or Xbox Series S, which is what I have. So I should talk to Big Cat.

Yeah. Why is he always doing that? It's a joke. It's a bit. So I never get their bit. They're so deep in their bits that I see it. I'm like, well, Big Cat got hacked again. No, you know.

I swear to God, one time I saw that somebody was like, rest in peace, Eric and PFT's brother. And I was like, hey, man, what happened here? Like, and he wrote me back. He was like, just stay out of this one. People were thanking Billy for his service Saturday. Like to sit out of this one. At the Yankees game. Stop.

No, I'm just joking. Like, that would be the type of thing. But, yeah, people will literally get hacked, and then people will tag Big Cat and PFT, which I think is when the bit has arrived like that, you know? That's funny. Fucking Barack Obama selling a PS5. People are tagging PFT commenter, or Big Cat.

But anyways, what do I do? I get a PS5. How hard are these fucking things to get your hands on? Possible. Nearly impossible. So what's the point, Kyle? What's the point? What you can do is just get a computer that you're able to work at home from.

That's a desktop PC. Yeah. And you can play games on it as well. Really? Yeah, that's what I do. No, I know. But like, how easy is that? Can I just hook up a normal controller to it?

You can hook up a controller? Absolutely. So there's no difference. No. You don't need a console. I'm imagining these people are like, shoot, S-H-O-O-T, Space Bar. I use a mouse and keyboard, but you have a mouse and keyboard, but I've, I've, also used like when I play the

new PGA game. When I play the PGA game I use a controller. That's fucking cool. I imagined you had a joystick. No. You're in there like moving with joystick. Water's nice. Okay can you can you get me the specs on what I should get? Can you do that? I'll spend the money but you just got to give me this. Well they have bundles that you can go come and I can send you links for that. But I don't want to get some sucker bundle. I'm not going to give anybody free pub but if there's anybody out there

listening that knows of a good company that Chris can get a bundle gaming PC, let me know. Yeah, joystick. Look at the fucking joystick up there. Matt pointed out of a joystick. Oh, that's just a funny word. I'm like, he's showing us what a joystick is.

That's funny. It is a funny-ass word. In aviation, joysticks originated as controls for aircraft. Ailerons. And elevators. And are first known to have been used as such on Lewis Blereo-Blerio's

eight. PFT aircraft of 1908. PFT we can read. It's just the writing small. I can't read any of that. PFT. FFT. Blaryo, Blereo. PFT is the joystick king. You see him he puts on his little flight jacket. He's great. Isn't he great? He plays all the flight simulators and he's into combat flight simulators, which I respect because, you know, thank you for your service for fighting the good fight. So anyways, he's going after Putin. That's good stuff.