Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Week 10 Recap. New England vs Cleveland, WFT vs Tampa Bay & Cam Newton's Return. Chris Sees Tom Segura.
Episode Date: November 15, 2021(2:08) - Hello, Layup Line and Stanford Steve and Tom Segura Come Through Charlottesville. (16:08) - Carolina Panthers vs Arizona Cardinals, Cam Newton's Return and Best Plane Ride. (18:13) - Pittsbu...rgh Steelers vs Detroit Lions and Worst Plane Ride. 23:02) - NFL Playoff Outlook. (28:33) - New England Patriots vs Cleveland Browns, (33:51) - Washington Football Team vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Taylor Heinicke vs Tom Brady and New Logo on WFT Field. (39:32) - Chris and Nate Attend Tom Segura's Show in Charlottesville. (41:22) - Kansas City Chiefs vs Oakland Raiders and Return of Mahomes. (43:12) - Green Bay Packers vs Seattle Seahawks, Tennessee Titans vs New Orleans Saints, Hollow Man, AJ Dillon's ' Get Down Coach' and Chris' Apology to Trevor Siemian. (56:26) - Dallas Cowboys and Buffalo Bills Bounce Back from WK9 Losses and Zach Wilson Fly on the Wall. (1:01:03) - Indianapolis Colts vs Jacksonville Jaguars and Philadelphia Eagles vs Denver Broncos, Jalen Hurts' Impressive Performance, Eagles Have a 50-50-50 Game, Teddy Bridgewater and Oweh Award. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Steve had a great time.
I'll sum it up this way, and we'll talk about it
with Macon later in the week.
Steve reached in his pocket at the bar
and pulled out a remote control.
It was from the suite that we were in.
So Steve took the remote control
from the luxury suite to the bar.
Minnetonka, Minnesota.
We've done this before.
We've said hello to y'all before.
This is not an oversight.
For Bo Allen,
I'll do it twice, man.
You know, happy birthday, Bo,
the Butter King, the one and only.
Bo, I don't think you actually listen to this podcast,
so who gives a shit.
But happy birthday.
Happy birthday, Bo.
Yeah, Nate has no idea who you are.
It's okay.
Yeah, he's in that picture.
He's in that picture over there.
You see the other...
Friend of yours, a friend of mine.
You see the other white guy in that picture?
Oh, yeah.
That's Bo.
Yeah, with the huge arms.
Nice.
Look how big that motherfucker is.
He's like 340.
It's all sort of muscle, dude.
It's crazy.
He's a freak of nature.
Even the guys you don't know are freaks of nature, dude.
If you're from Philly, you know Bo Allen.
Super Bowl champ.
Hey, layup line.
Roll on Mama like I ask you to do.
Roll on 18 Wheeler by Allie.
Alabama. I have no idea why. It's just stuck in my head. I'm pressed for time. I want to get this
podcast done. I'll explain why in a second. I just had it stuck in my head. My kid heard the song.
He likes the song. It's about big trucks. Big trucks. Hey, Diana Rossini's back. Big shout out to
Diana Rossini. She had a baby, right? She had a baby. She was out like four to six baby,
aka maternity leave, which I am in support of. Women should have maternity leave. Her husband
her husband gets a maternity leave too hopefully i hope so i hope everybody gets a maternity leave that's
like a new thing now you know in canada that's a big thing in canada they give husbands are getting
like after after the wife gets it the kid the husband gets like three or four months oh that's
kind of tight it's called paternity leave and yes generally speaking husbands will get like two to three
weeks oh am i really didn't take advantage of that at my last job
Imagine
Jack Eli Manning
Luke popped out the next day
I just went back to work
Could you imagine asking for that
In the league
One time I was on
I was on a team
And a guy
His wife was going into labor
And
He
He was asked to move the delivery date
Like not like asked
Outright
But he was kind of like
hey so is there any way there's like a wiggle room on that uh that date and here was a thing like
we were not very good so that would make me so by the way and garson wens
here's the carson wens said i will beat the jaguars instead of seeing my kid get born like
all right that means one or two things either carson hates his family
or he absolutely loves football and his teammates
and I know it's the latter.
The guy loves his family.
There's nobody who would want to see his kid get born more than Carson Wentz.
All of the above.
I'm just saying, coming back around on this thing here,
Carson Wentz, not a bad guy.
Article 726, loves his teammates.
Put beating the Jaguars overseeing his kid get born.
People beat the Jaguars every week, fam.
Didn't they just win last week, though?
Yeah, but, you know, just I know you're...
former jack war but yeah no no no no Carson Wentz amazing guys there's a lot of baby stuff going on
as there should be babies are awesome so these are all COVID babies right six feet apart these are all
babies that were supposed to be six feet apart that are coming right now like what do you mean
that technically these technically speaking all the babies that are being born right now the people
they were not abiding by the COVID rules obviously that's not true you could you can have a family
in COVID you can't you can't be six feet apart and have a baby
You can.
If you're Lexington, Steele, you can.
That's who they were quarantining with.
It also hasn't been nine months, has it, since the pandemic?
No, dude.
I don't even, I'm not following.
I'm just not following.
I'm in football brain mode, and I've already tackled paternity leave.
I've tackled babies.
Not tackled babies, but we're talking like all types of shit right now.
Hey, Stanford, Steve made it down to Charlottesville this weekend.
That's a big deal because he's been in D.C.
for 18 months, or Maryland, Merlin, for 18 months now,
doing that awesome show with Scott Van Pelt.
Those guys are rock stars, man.
They really are.
I'm not just saying it because, like, I think they're cool
and their friends or whatever.
Well, me and Steve are definitely friends.
He drove two hours to see me in making this weekend.
So the friendship is real.
It's not just business.
Steve has seen Charlottesville,
and the reviews are really good.
Steve had a great time.
we saw Virginia obviously down a
Heisman candidate in my opinion
get smacked by Notre Dame
Notre Dame is a big physical team
they are a big physical team
listen I was down on the field
I don't know if the tight ends were standing
on a crown in the field that I wasn't aware of
and I was standing in a hole kind of
but the fuckers are huge man
kids look big like I know I know it's the same thing
like when we were on the field like people watching
are like these guys look huge
but Notre Dame's like a pro team dude
I just think some of these college kids just in general, like when you're standing down there, you're like, yo, these kids are standing next to the recruits.
And I was like, Jesus, man, you got it.
I was like, you know, like you want to stand here?
I mean, you know, and I don't look like I played really anymore.
But it was crazy.
And one of the funniest things about it, and this is what I was going to tell you, Nate, is that I ran into an old friend of ours.
Oh.
Because he's the strength coach at Notre Dame.
Matt Bayless.
If one thing, if I should have came,
it was to go see Matt.
How was seeing Matt?
Bro, it was one of the best hugs I've had in like a decade, man.
It's my college strength coach, Nate's college strength coach.
He's the strength coach at Notre Dame.
I promise you, I've never been in the shape.
Me neither.
The type of shape I've been in in my entire life than I was with Matt Bayless.
We had a midnight lift, dude, and dudes were like lifting huge weight.
I was like doing step-ups.
with 285 on my shoulders, like four reps at 1 a.m.
At some point you look at the mirror and you're like,
how the fuck did I get like this?
And it was good, honest, hard work at the hands of Matt Bayliss.
That dude got something out of me that I'll tell you what.
It'd be hard to ever get it again.
I'm just telling you.
I gave him a big hug and I said, hey, I appreciate you.
It's just cool to see a coach that, you know,
that affected you positively out of the blue like that.
We hadn't talked in 14 years.
And so when I told dudes that we played with,
the sentiment was the same,
it was Matt Bayliss of the man.
I also shout out to Martin Rooney,
ran into the guy who trained me for the combine.
This is within an hour.
Wait, wait, wait, Martin Rooney.
Yeah, you know Martin Rooney.
He trained me too.
Perices, New Jersey.
Look at that.
Look at us.
Look at that.
But Martin's the man.
So he has a daughter at Notre Dame.
So we're trying to recruit the younger daughter to Virginia.
And I saw him at a tailgate.
So anyways, it was like strength coach Central.
But Notre Dame beat us.
up dude they just beat us up Steve had a great time I'll sum it up this way and we'll talk about it
with making later in the week Steve reached his pocket at the bar and pulled out a remote control
uh it was from the suite that we were in so Steve took the remote control from the luxury suite
to the bar uh so Steve had a great great weekend and we hope he comes back again that's hilarious
yeah yeah he was also he was hoarding the the remote in the suite I think he might have been a
But we deleted a lot of beers.
And sometimes you think it's your cell phone, I guess.
Well, Pete Carroll today thought fucking his Motorola was a challenge flag.
That is very true.
It wasn't a Motorola.
Reed, what was it?
Electric hand warmer.
A hand warmer, which I didn't even know they had electric hand warmers.
That's the fucked up thing about coaches while I'm here.
They will talk, you know, we need to go outside.
You need to feel the cold.
You need to, you know, you need to.
The coaches that tell you to get your fucking.
Can hands out of your pants in your shirt?
Get your hands out of your pants, get them out of your shirt.
They got electric hand warmers.
We didn't even know they had electric hand warmers this whole time, dude.
That is so bogus of y'all.
Coaches are hypocrites for sure.
That's so bogus, dude.
Anyways, the second cool thing about this weekend so far is Tom Seguera's here.
Okay, Tom Segarra is doing his thing called.
I'm coming everywhere.
You saying it is just, so Tom's, Tom's tour is called the I'm coca.
his tour is called the i'm coming everywhere and tonight's the final show and it's in charlottesville which is
interesting not coming anymore are you tom tour's over okay fucking jokes over dude but you're here
you're in charlottesville and so i was on tom's podcast i don't know for friends or anything
i think he's awesome but i don't know for friends and uh i'm just being cool i'm like hey man our
studios like two blocks from where you're doing the show at at the paramount let me know if you want to
come through and watch a game if you want to get away because i know when like you're in a hotel if you
want to watch games it's hard to do that and cowboy reed and taylor have we're like a bw3s in here
okay and um set up is legit so tom takes me up on it and i'm like oh he's really he's come he's gonna come
through. So we watched like most of the 1 p.ms and I caught up with Tom and it was fucking awesome
hanging out and now we're going to try to hurry this podcast up and get out of here in about 45
minutes to go see Tom at the Paramount. So life is working out really well. Life is working out so well
that I had a hangover and I thought today would be a good day to just ride out with the gummies,
right? It's like gummy Sunday today. And I pop a couple gummies and walk into work and
Tom Segura takes me up on coming over to hang out.
So I'm just like everything he's saying is hilarious.
In general, every facial expression he makes anyways is funny.
And like he's right here in person.
So I'm having a hard time keeping him together.
And I'm excited to see him tonight.
Great dude.
But I want you to see something, Nate,
because he showed me something on the way out that was really fucked up.
He was like, uh, did you see my, uh, you didn't see my leg, did you?
Like, we were talking about Tom, Tom's athletic prospects.
Because I noticed that Tom's taller than I thought he would be.
How tall is he?
He claims he's, I don't want to docks what he said, but he claims he's 5'10.
He looks at least six feet tall.
So he was talking about this time he tried to dunk.
And evidently, I might have seen it.
And I think I had seen it, but maybe I hadn't focused in on the video.
It's Tom Segorah going up for a dunk and injuring himself like mightily.
Oh, no.
The fucking.
Oh, no.
He's sitting there
Oh
Bro, look at
Why is his hand?
Oh, because his low back.
I know that shit hurt bad, bro.
No, you don't, it's
He broke his arm
And his leg, dude.
Oh, my God.
I didn't see the arm.
Oh, I didn't see the arm.
Oh, I hate it.
Oh.
I hate it.
For everyone at home, this is Tom Sagar's basketball injury on YouTube.
Now, this is not, it's only, okay, it's not funny.
Look, and the guy comes over and just puts his hand on his hip.
And he got this guy Roy, who's a basketball coach, who evidently Roy hyped him up.
It was kind of like, hey, try to, they were dunking at like him and Burt were dunking at like eight feet, eight and a half, nine feet.
And when I get to nine feet
Like this coach
Like hype Tom up to take a shot at nine feet pro
And he goes up and winds up
In a fucking glove
And a leg brace
For six months
I got it in an ambulance
I barely know the guy
And I felt so bad
Because it's funny
He's a comedian
He's sharing this stuff to be funny
And like self-deprecating
And I knew he was doing that
but when he showed me here, I couldn't help but just crack the fuck up, just like I did.
And he kind of played it off like I was sadistic for laughing.
Jesus Christ, did you see that X-ray?
Dude, it was gnarly.
He showed, look, he's doing a whole like a video, a comeback video, like a Russell Wilson kind of comeback video.
Like Russell's doing the same video with his finger.
Oh, my God.
19 hours a day, Russell was rehab and get back.
We'll talk about that.
Okay, let's get into the football.
It's getting the football.
Also, I grubhub Burger King today.
Like, I got Tom Segura over.
Like, yeah, hey, bro, come hang out at our studio.
We got it.
It's, like, awesome.
With him, you order Burger King with him?
No, I didn't know he was coming over when I ordered Burger King, basically, and Burger
King got there.
And I'm like, oh, my new friend thinks I grubhub Burger King delivery a lot.
Like, that's a weird thing, right?
So what?
What's wrong with Burger King?
I don't know.
Burger King, like, is Burger King?
Bro, I got stuck in the McDonald's.
Donald's line for 20 minutes.
I think it should be dead.
Burger King?
But people also don't come to me for
fast food takes because I got dragged
for Arby's French rights. Yeah, I was just about to say.
You put the nails in your own.
Oh, by the way. I'm going to give out
Best Flight right off the bat.
Anybody on an airplane
with Cam Newton tonight is a happy dude because
Cam Newton is selling hope right now
and he should be selling hope because this is a good
football team. They had one issue
they have a few issues but they had one of their issues is they're like a hundred percent dependent on
this guy named christian mcalfrey so if he gets hurt at a position where guys get injured they go in
the tank another problem they had was sam darnald throwing the ball to the other team a fuck tongue okay
not only do they not have that problem right now but they have a guy that's a legend in that city
who's got contagious energy former MVP former MVP walks off the bus and looks like he could play five
positions in the NFL and you get a tailor-made situation right off the bat to use them after a
turnover you wind up throwing a touchdown pass with him and you look dominant over a team that people
this cardinals team was favored by 10 points which i gave out the the panthers i did not know they'd
went out right and i also didn't know that cam new would be taking a snap one in oh is the tweet from
joe brady but in cam newton's font bro he's going to be on the plane teaching all these young
motherfuckers how to use this font now.
Let me ask you.
We're going to be just soaking it right now.
Let me ask you this.
How many backup quarterbacks could get a team hyped up on the sideline like Cam Newton?
Cam Newton's the goat, man.
I'm not saying people take goat literally and somebody's going to quote me or something,
but like Cam Newton, it just has this energy that everybody knows what time it is when he
walked back in the building.
It just feels like the temperature rose a little bit down there from what it sounds like
and just having them around is really a contagious deal.
So good for the Panthers and flying David Teperair back to Charlotte.
It's going to be a late flight.
But on the flight home, they're watching highlights of the NFC South taking a dive today.
Like literally, New Orleans lost.
The Bucs lost.
The Falcons got beat by about 40 points today.
So it's a big swing for them.
It's a big swing of energy.
Worst flight, I'm going to give it to Detroit, man.
Like, who else could it be?
We were sitting here in the room and watching the end of this game, and it was inevitable.
It felt like there was a gravitational pull towards this game being tied,
and people walking off the field confused.
As soon as they got into overtime, and I've been in a tie in the NFL.
Had you ever tied a game?
No, never.
Okay, buddy.
Let me tell you, it's one of the weirdest feelings in the world.
Like Naji Harris?
And when you said, Naji Harris said that he didn't know you could tie a game.
You could tie a game.
I didn't know the rules of overtime.
when we got in this wild overtime thriller with San Francisco at San Francisco,
they were lining up to kick a field goal,
and this would have been the first possession of overtime.
They kicked that fucking field goal.
Dude, I thought the game was over.
Thought the game was over, bro.
Najee Harris, man, I hear you.
And, like, anybody on those teams, they feel terrible right now.
It feels like, what the hell did you just do this for?
And for the Lions, it's doubly bad,
because you're trying to win a game.
This means nothing to you.
Not losing today means nothing to the lions, dude.
I guarantee you as Dan Campbell's walking on that field,
he's even more frustrated in some ways
than your run-of-the-mill loss for these guys.
And the way they lost was ridiculous, dude.
So it was like five punts going into overtime, right?
Overtime starts with golf getting sacked.
They punt.
You get like a Pittsburgh fumble.
You get a pick.
that's actually called back because of DPI.
Then you get the miss kick.
Like the miss kick was terrible.
It wasn't even close.
It was offline and short.
That's a bad,
that's a bad combo for a kicker.
How do you do both, dude?
Like, that's terrible.
You got one job.
How do you do both?
Jerigoff was struggling the day.
Jerigoff threw for about like a CVS parking lot today.
It was not good.
And so I think the turbulence with this flight,
It seems like a very turbulent flight area right now this time.
Look at that turbulent-looking air hovering outside Heinz Field.
It looks like a lot of moisture build up there.
It's a pretty turbulent field itself.
Yes, turbulent field.
It's turbulent flight home.
When they punt it at the end and it's like you know it's going to be a tie
after all that back and forth,
it feels terrible to concede that you're just trying not to lose the game.
And that's the next three minutes of the game.
will be that. So terrible, bad flight. The lateral was even bad. It was kind of good and kind of bad.
Here's the most fucked up thing about, you know, the lions and anything that goes on with the
lions every, some kid could mindlessly be on the couch on some college campus, like watching the game
as like background noise. Like, damn, the lions are ass. You might end up in Detroit because of one
of these outcomes. Like literally, I can remember sitting there and watching,
the Rams get beat by the Cowboys, my senior year,
on a big gray TV.
Do you remember that big gray TV we had in the Meat Mansion?
Yep.
That big gray TV weighed like 150 pounds,
so I'm dating myself here as a large rolling TV.
And I watched the Cowboys beat up on the Rams.
The Rams lost like 60 yards on one play.
There was like a, or maybe it was Tony Romo.
I think there was a snap that went over somebody's head.
It was like a blooper.
And I was like, damn, that team is struggling.
And then next thing you know, you're like, here we are.
Damn, that team is struggling.
Yeah, and I'm struggling too.
And so I just, kids, if you're an NFL draft pick, watch the games on Sunday.
Think about it.
Think about it.
And by the way, I don't regret anything.
I don't regret anything.
I love St. Louis.
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Last three weeks,
1 in 5 jets over the Bengals,
1 in 6 jags over the bills,
2 and 6, John.
over the Raiders, two and seven dolphins,
over the Ravens, that was Monday night,
and then today, two and six, Washington, over the bucks.
So a lot of teams are showing flaws,
and a lot of bad teams might be getting better,
or they might be getting breaks.
But like, this is the time of year,
talked about like the way they'd talk in New England,
hey, after Thanksgiving or whatever it was,
you kind of become who you are, the real teams come out.
Of course, I was butchering that and saying,
after Halloween. One thing that's pretty obvious right now is that we have no idea who's going to win
the Super Bowl. And I think that's pretty damn cool this late in a season. We don't usually have
that. We have an idea usually and the field is kind of deep right now. And this list tells you
all these good teams, quote unquote good teams with good records have flaws. So like I jotted down
10 of them. You tell me if I'm missing
any, but Cardinals, Bucks, Rams, Chargers,
Ravens, Bills, Titans, Packers,
Cowboys, and Patts too, right? After a day,
for sure. And
listen, I'm maybe
forgetting somebody. I'm not saying
these guys are all equal odds to win the Super Bowl,
but you get the idea that these are the best
teams in the league. First off,
the Cardinals, they got to
figure this, this
Kyler Murray thing out. We learn every week
when guys have to pop up and
make spot starts, you kind of see the bottom end of a team's potential based on this worst
case scenario. And I think what makes it worse for the Cardinals is they built the offense around
Kyler. Yes. A lot of the stuff they run is predicated on your quarterback being able to be
Kyler. And so when Colt comes in, like it just changes not only the quality of the player,
but down to like, you know, the scheme fit. And I mean, you saw it. Colt McCoy looked great last week
against the Niners.
They've kind of owned the Niners.
We said that.
I gave out the Panthers today because of that.
I thought we overvalued them coming off that game.
And so, like, Colt McCoy looks good there,
but down 14, nothing pressed today.
You get rolling right across your body,
like one of the biggest fuck-it-throes I've ever seen.
When the heat is on and that great team isn't kind of like
moving things along in sequence,
it's hard to be the quarterback.
And so they've got to figure out the Kyler thing.
You had late last year, you had the shoulder thing.
It didn't look like a big deal.
It dragged on for a while.
I don't know what's going to happen with this ankle thing.
And it's undeniable that when you have an athletic quarterback who takes risks and who hasn't proven,
like Lamar that, you know, he knows how to like take himself out of harm's way.
And I'm not, it's not a shot.
It's, I respect him.
He's fearless.
But the reality is he's going to use his legs a lot.
Probability-wise, he's going to get hurt sometimes.
And so they've got to figure that thing.
out because everything is so inextricably tied to him.
It's kind of like live by the three, die by the three in basketball, but I don't know what
you would really call it like with that for like running quarterbacks and having your
quarterbacks being susceptible to injuries in this situation.
Even if it's banged up, not really injuries, need maintenance.
You can't need maintenance if you don't really have anyone to back it up.
The bucks.
I mean like listen, they got problems right now.
They lost today.
They got corners.
a big problem for them.
They're secondary.
The Rams.
I mean, like, they just got beat up by the Titans,
and then you've got the O'Dell thing,
which is good news,
but you lose Robert Woods,
who's probably more important to them than O'Dell.
O'Dell's an unknown commodity, you know, for that team.
And it's also a different position.
So you assume you've got this workflow
with the receiving corps there,
and now it's different.
And you lose the Sean Jackson.
So the Chargers,
they just lost the Vikings.
I don't even want to talk about the Chargers today.
I don't want to talk about the Vikings today.
You know, I'm on the wrong side of that and the win total.
No thank you.
The Ravens, lots of the dolphins, man.
Come on.
What?
Yeah, dude.
See, like, where have you been?
Bro, like, it was the ladder in.
I just finished turkey season.
Bro, it is not.
It's like going to jury duty.
It's jury duty.
They sequester you to kill these turkeys, man.
It's just a lot.
It's just a whole lot going on, but I'm done with it.
so I could be more engaged.
And I'm upset that this week, a lot of dogs actually won.
Okay.
The Ravens lost to the Dolphins the other night.
And Joe Biden won the election a few months back.
So I just want to make sure you get that too.
They double-mugged like every play, and the Ravens couldn't get guys open.
And it was just like a masterful game plan.
But, you know, like that's what sports center's for.
So check it out.
All these teams got issues.
The bills just lost the Jagger.
Titans, Packers, hottest teams in the league.
They're banged up right now.
We'll talk about that.
Cowboys are hot.
They got Gallup back.
They got Dak back.
They're trending in the right direction.
Dak look healthy today.
The Pats, the Pats are the same way.
They're trending up.
So I'm looking at the Cowboys and the Pats.
They got the least question marks when things are rolling for them.
And right now, things are rolling for other teams like the Packers and Titans,
but they're banged up.
You got questions.
The Pats, man, half game back in the East.
I bet the Pats to go over on the win total.
I think it's like nine and a half.
And those odds are dicey.
I believe in the Pats, but I'm surprised by this.
People said early in the year,
I think a couple people,
I can't remember who to credit here in the media
were like, hey, the Pats are going to win that division.
I think Dave Damashek said they were going to come back
and win the East.
And I was kind of like, yeah, dude, I like that,
but I don't have the balls to say that.
I just don't.
Not at that point early in the year.
Talking about what you see,
the QB has gotten better.
They're kind of rolling.
the defense is coming into form.
I've seen enough with Bill Belichick, man.
Like, he just never ceases to amaze me.
And now he's kind of checking that last box, okay?
His draft picks are playing well.
It's the thing, we've criticized him for drafting, right?
It's Barmore, right?
Stevenson, Mack Jones.
Like, Mac Jones is playing well.
Some people think,
I think Kevin Clark made a joke today,
and he was like,
you know, we should really be talking about him being the second pick in the draft is what he should have been.
And yeah, I mean, the way it looks right now, he's also in a very good situation. He made some really great throws today, though.
He looked, this is probably his like signature Sunday so far this year. Touch throws, the whole nine yards.
In the red zone, they're going to be a problem when their tight ends are healthy. Hunter Henry, like free access.
I think they spread them out today early in the game. And it's just too easy down there to get buckets for them.
when the run game is rolling like it was today,
they're hard to stop.
But also, not just the draft picks,
guys coming back to them.
Like the guys they either found in free agency,
Judon, like,
I don't even think people realized
how great assigning this was going to be.
And we've loved Matt Judon here.
But like,
I don't think we realized how dominant
he was going to look at times this year.
Just a very good fit.
When Bill builds a defense around somebody,
and I'm sure he slants things to that dude
making plays, like, because he recognizes he's their best player up front in the front seven.
Van Hoy, Collins coming back, they're playing well. And the identity, man, they're playing
New England football, like offensive line playing well, right side of line, first drive,
Trent Brown, Shaq Mason, like really letting guys up front know it's going to be a long day.
Like when Trent Brown first hits you, you're like, holy shit, dude.
Like you know sometimes the coach is like hey set the edge or like I don't want to see you drift that once you make contact with that block
I think it's very reasonable to in the film room be like what do you want me to do coach
Most of those coaches haven't been hit like by someone like Trent before or leaned on bro he could he could just bump into me walking to the bathroom
And I'd sue him dude
I mean so when those guys get rolling
They're hard to stop and whether it's that or it's when pulling
pulling and kicking out
44 on that touchdown early in the game
on the pitch. I mean, they ran
100 reverses. That looks like them.
They took away Garrett defensively
for Cleveland. And
that's Bill's signature. He's going to pick
one guy and he's going to say like, no way. That guy
is not going to beat us. That's like a basketball
thing, right? Someone else has
to eat, though. Someone else on the D-line
has to know, like, yo,
Miles is getting triple team
right now. I need to win my one-on-on-one.
That's got to be clowny. That's got to be clowny.
And you know who they miss is Ogun Joby, who's now in Sincey.
So, you know, like, it just plays right into who the pats are and the defense, man.
Their defense is about little things.
It's about, like, energy.
It's about, like, team defense.
It's about turnovers, too.
And they're very ball aware.
Barmore, like, rushing early in the game, he's in a three.
It's a little thing, and J.C. Jackson doesn't pick the ball off.
He almost does.
a turnover. But that little motion of swiping a baker's shoulder when a lot of guys would just
finish the rush and try to be close is the thing that affects the throw. You know, or Kyle Van
Roy on a screen, I believe it was, punching the ball out. Now the paths don't fall on that, but they do
that stuff. And that's like the little things that they do. And it reminds me of their really good
defense a couple years ago, the energy today. I'm not saying they're that group. I think they play
less man now.
You know, they play more zone.
But they got some playmakers, and they're starting to turn into that team after Halloween
or fucking Thanksgiving, what have you, all these holidays in here.
They're good.
We're halfway through the year, and they're good.
So this was a show for Bill today.
How good is Chubb, too?
Browns looks so different without them.
So different.
When you got a running back and get you eight yards of fucking carry, it's going to make a difference.
It makes a huge difference.
makes a huge difference.
And the running backs, man, like, you know,
De Ernest Johnson, he had a pretty nice day.
I'm sure Bill was like, we're not going to let him beat us either.
And it was all about getting him into third and long.
They did that.
I know that was a game plan.
Had to be.
Like, stop the run, make Baker, convert third and eight.
And ended up being third and eight.
About an average, just under there.
Brown's had a long way to go.
On the other end of things, the box, man,
former Pat's QB.
He heard of him, Tom Brady.
What a shitty day, man.
It just was tough for them.
And for Washington, great investment on the kicker.
He kicked like 14 field goals today, Joey Sly.
We got two quarterbacks here, and I describe how it went.
Brady got the ball out today.
Didn't get sacked, not once, right?
Heineke, three seconds, took five sacks.
So you look at that after a game, you know,
and you armchair quarterback without knowing the outcome,
if I told you who the quarterbacks were,
and I told you that is how the game went,
you tell me that the bucks rolled.
For sure.
You got to hit Brady.
You got to affect Brady.
You have to take risks.
I mean, that's why Heineke,
and that's why a lot of quarterbacks
who aren't like world beaters
can go out and beat the goat sometimes
because when you need him to make a play with his legs
or like, you know, take a risk,
you know, he's a backup or a bridge right now
until he earns being a perennial starter.
Like, this guy's just like,
fucking, I'm playing with house money,
and I'm out here trying to beat the goat,
and I'm taking risks and I'm drifting to 10, 11 yards
and I'm making big throws.
This was all about conversions,
and Heineke had a ton of great conversions,
like third medium type, really tough plays.
That last drive.
That last drive.
Yeah, 19 plays, 1026 is the longest drive
in Bucks' history against them
since they ever, like, started recording stats.
Pulled a Tom Brady on Tom Brady.
Yeah, pretty much.
In the game, clock.
Pretty much.
Clock the game out.
Yes,
yes, dude.
And that's the frustrating part for Tom is like,
because that's the only way you could beat him.
You take the ball out of his hand.
Here's the worst thing, though.
Washington did not sneak up on Brady.
They didn't sneak up on this team at all.
Last year they played them in playoffs and played them tough.
Mm-hmm.
You know, so that's the really scary thing for the bucks is you knew who they were
and you let them, you know, Denny Green.
Yeah.
You know, we let them off the hook.
let them off the hook and they let them off the hook.
And now Washington and Miami
are two teams, we mentioned them earlier, who were
kind of looking like this week, like
the teams they were supposed to be a little bit more.
I just want to say this, that last
drive, dude, to get back on the
conversion train, four of five on third
downs. All of them were
manageable. So the
defense has a part in this. Brady's picks were
bad. The first one was fluky. The second one,
I don't know what the hell was going on. He did not have
his best day. You got to put points on the board.
I don't care. It's like, you know, but
the defense is what worries me about this team in the playoffs like the corners they're down three
corners they gave up a bunch of third downs would have mattered the last third and five in the red
zone before it became goal to go McLaurin got smoked three minutes to go though he holds onto that
ball the bucks never really get the ball back and so really bad drive for the bucks because it
started on the 15 yard line or something on a third and two they're rushing five so four
five guys rush and heinrich he gets out around the left side guys are kind of jogging and and and you get a
first down and then that entire drive happens so I know it sucks chasing a guy like that around but with
five dudes you got to have the rush lanes right and then to book end that drive with that fourth and one
which was like and you're not going to get the ball back to even you know it's tough it's tough so
jonathan allen deserves a lot of credit straw the stirs the drink there um young
Out with an ACL maybe.
Yeah.
Fuck, I hope not, man.
Get well soon, dude.
Whatever it is.
What a, what a,
a balls out player he is, bro.
He plays really hard.
I told you, like,
it's been a tough year for him.
He's going to be back.
He's a worker.
Yeah.
And I think,
don't put too much on the kid too early.
No,
I think he's in a great situation.
I think Del Rio is a good coach
that'll push him enough.
And he's a player that seems like
he can take constructive criticism.
He can take,
coaching well and he's striving to get better all the time so just wish the best and hopefully he'll
get healthy soon and it's not too serious he's a freak of nature i know that and those guys come back
quicker from from ACLs like i've seen dudes just come back like in the 80s you tore your ACL you were
done you had to like retire so you know he'll he'll be back the only thing about that game is
the washington football team no longer just puts the NFL shield on the on midfield conspicuously
And I'm sure there's like an article about it somewhere.
I haven't done my research.
Kind of weird, the timing.
You know, like maybe the NFL is about to do something to you.
And you're like, fuck you, we're not putting your shield on our field.
Because the Piper's going to finally, isn't that the Piper pays?
That's right.
You got pay the Piper.
Yeah, for sure.
The Piper's coming around.
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tickets. So fast forward a couple hours. We went to the show at like 925. Calvary was like, hey,
just got a question for you. Do you want to go to this show that you told Tom Segura you would go to?
You know, because last thing I want to do is one, miss the show because I really want to see Tom.
but then two
I don't want to like miss the show
and Tom be like hey man come on back
or you know like
what did you think
oh it's great what joke
and then not know any of the jokes
because I've missed it so
we had a great fucking time we went and saw Tom
and Jeff Tate who was hilarious
I met Jeff earlier in the day
and his Instagram
says
consistently exceeds lowered expectations
fucking guy kicked
you know like he just blew it
out of the water, dude. And he's so unassuming and then just gets on the mic and crushed it. He was
funny as hell. My face hurt the whole time. And Charlottesville, Tom, Tom had his hands full with
Charlottesville. I'm almost proud. I don't know if I'm proud. Not that I'm like, how do I put this?
Read asked that there were hecklers. Would you put it that they were hecklers, Nate?
I think it was healthy hecklers, but just like Tom had put it, there were hecklers, heckling the hecklers.
Yes, it was just so weird.
There were a lot of people wine drunk.
There was a woman in the front row that was just like talking about ECU and Tom's like,
are we talking about East Carolina University right now during my show?
And there was all this stuff.
And I don't know if Tom's going to come back if I was Tom, but it was fine.
fucking funny.
I think he had a good time.
He had a great time.
He crushed it.
And so did Jeff.
So they were awesome.
And we got to see a show.
And now we're going to finish the podcast.
Where were we?
I know where I was.
I was.
Yeah.
I was waiting for the Chiefs to win and finish out this parlay.
So when we got back in the building, I was like, saw the score read.
He was like, yeah, they're back.
Like with a really concerned face.
Broncos fan.
I mean, not that, I don't know if he was buying the,
the Broncos hype, but like this division sounds like from looking at Reed's face and seeing
the other AFC West teams today play and then seeing the score of that game, they're back.
The Chiefs back.
They're back.
You're going to talk to your brother.
My brother's team's back.
My brother's team's back.
I'm happy for him then.
That's good because the rest of the division does not seem to be playing at a high level.
And they got the whole Halloween thing going where they're just like walking behind you, like fast.
and you can't get away from them.
That's like probably, I don't know,
there's going to be a meme
because that score, I was like,
holy shit, they figured some things out tonight, huh?
Here, the Raiders, who I defended last week
going east and getting their ass kicked by the giants.
Well, red zone issues, third down issues,
that sort of thing.
I kind of cape for them.
I don't know.
I got to roll the tape back on this game
to tell you if I think they're done or not,
because if the standard in the AFC West is the Chiefs,
they've lost ground because they've always played the Chiefs close.
I look at that score.
That is ugly.
Joins a long line of blowouts today.
Another thing that's interesting,
as much as we've counted the Chiefs out and they have deficiencies,
there's only one team with more wins in the AFC,
and that's the Tennessee Titans.
And it ain't by much.
It's muddied up in the AFC now.
AFC is more about depth, NFC, big ledge, top heavy.
One of those teams at the top of the NFC is the Packers.
One of two teams that I'd kind of put as the hottest team in the league,
Titans of the Packers, because I don't look at the Aaron Rogers week off in his coffin.
I don't look at that as like counting against them.
They are really good to me if you ask me right now,
and I think we do this too much where you're afraid to say what you think right now
because somebody will come back in a month and be like,
well, you've changed your take.
So look, I think I made my mind up.
I don't have a main team right now,
but I'm pretty sure that the Packers are my side team.
They're your side team?
Yeah, I enjoy.
You're winning you over?
I just enjoy watching them play.
And like, for whatever reason.
I did not enjoy watching them play tonight.
That sucked ass, dude.
That was terrible.
There were like 47 punts.
There were 47 puns.
And I'm all about 47 puns if it's a really violent defensive game,
like a Ravens,
Steelers game back in the day where dudes were just like...
But I'm getting excited because the Packers with the weather,
it snowed a little bit today.
Beville Conway.
Yeah, when it's coming, like when it's coming into this time right now
and you see snow and you see that those green or yellow uniforms,
you know a lot of special things are going to happen.
And this is the time of year where Green Bay usually turns it all the way up.
Dude, it's going to be a tough place to play.
I mean, they get a little bit of snow tonight.
I bet the under.
I mean, it's totally one.
one of the most beautiful scenes in football
is to see that snow falling down in a 4 p.m.
Like one of the first few 4 p.ms at daylight savings
gets it dark in the second half
and you start to get some snow coming down.
It was gorgeous.
I'm sure Russell Wilson didn't appreciate that.
AJ Dylan, so they got a get back guy for Sean McVeigh,
like the guy that keeps him like,
AJ Dylan needs like a help you down
from the Lambeleap guy because he is way too big
and way too valuable to them right about now
to be Lambo leaping into the fucking fans.
That is a big jump, but...
It's a big jump.
That's a big man.
When you jump down on the concrete,
and I don't know this is concrete,
but I would imagine it's not grass there where you jump down.
It's really hard to plant your cleats in the ground, man.
Like, AJ Dillon's a big man,
and they need him down the stretch here.
Earlier,
Reed was like, what do you think?
Like, you think they're the best team in the NFC.
And then right as they're panted Aaron Jones leaving the field with a knee,
I'm like, not anymore.
That's my one worry.
I mean, look at this stretch here.
You've got all indivision games.
You have the Rams, you have the Ravens, you have the Browns remaining.
So division games, nothing easy about those, unless you're playing the Bears, because they'll give it to you.
They'll just fucking give it to you.
I bet the Bears the other night they'll give it to you.
And if they don't give it to you, Tony Carrenti will.
Okay.
So they're going to have their hands full,
except when they play the Bears the rest of the season.
And they'll probably have to be without Aaron Jones for a few weeks,
at least spraying MCL.
So, I mean, this team and the Titans,
both two of the hottest teams in the league,
are teams that are dealing with some bullshit right now.
Injuries, that sort of thing.
Titans, obviously, they've got to figure out different ways to win every week.
Now they're without Derek Henry,
Julio Jones on IR
just a lot of injuries
but the thing that's carrying these two teams
through is defense
in the past last couple years
you couldn't trust the Titans defense at times
you certainly couldn't trust Green Bay's defense at times
and they become more physical defensively
both these teams and they found themselves
at the top of the NFC and the AFC
respectively maybe they're tied
with the Cardinals
what the Packers are or something like that
but these are two of the elite teams in the league,
and it's because their defense has picked up the slack of the offense.
Hey, listen, we got Jordan Love this week.
All right, we're going to hang in there.
We're going to hang in there.
You don't win the game necessarily, but you're going to hang in there.
The Packers, they have to slug it out with the Seahawks.
I mean, now Russell's fingers messed up,
but you're able to keep the points down.
Like when Rogers is getting on the same page with guys
after essentially a by week, you know,
and the timing was a little bit off at times,
and that's to be expected,
the defense is able to pick up for you.
When Joe Barry is out with COVID,
and you got to play the Cardinals,
and you keep that game manageable for your offense
on the road, tough environment,
the defense steps up, you know,
assistant coaches step up.
So both these teams, I mean, like,
you go to L.A. and you're the Titans.
You're expecting, how the fuck you're going to go to L.A.
and win without Derek Henry?
You told me that three weeks ago?
Okay, no chance.
Jeffrey Simmons, the defense, the pass rush.
You know, you've got Landry off the edge now.
You've got a bunch of guys.
Titans have tried everything to generate a pass rush for two, three years.
Now they got a ton of numbers on that side of the ball.
So both really good teams, both have challenges,
but the way they'll stay in it this year,
week in and week out, respectable defenses.
But again, like, I don't know what happened to Mercilis or Gary.
I mean, these might be big losses.
They could be without these guys for a little bit.
Did those guys go back in the game either of them?
Mercilus came out grabbing his bicep or something.
See what that is.
Feel for him he had a sack tonight.
Guy that toiled in obscurity in Houston
and has been a very productive rusher,
finally getting a chance in Green Bay
and beat Twain Brown, his old teammate for a sack tonight,
then comes out of the game with some sort of an arm injury.
Yeah, a bicep injury.
Bicep, which is scary.
on Gary went out with an elbow.
Man, that was disgusting.
The Gary thing. Did you see the Gary thing?
I didn't.
Man, he got his arm stuck in a pile laying on the pile.
And I was shaking.
I've seen a lot of ugly injuries.
I mean, like, that was just a weird looking one.
Arms not supposed to go that way.
So they're going to be challenges, but I think they'll be okay.
Both teams.
I think they've got staying power.
You just can't kill the Titans.
I'll talk about that game in a minute
19 hours a day for Russell
with the finger
I'm no mathematician but that's five hours sleep
unless you're working the finger in your sleep
obviously working the finger in your sleep
yeah what do you got like you you hook it up to a stem
he could technically for sure
if he really wanted to get greedy with this thing
he could say 24 hours and you could argue that you could do
that 24 hours of rehab
I would think that they probably have some type of special glove
that he just has to wear
that has some type of stem machine stuff in it
machine you're just sleeping and your index fingers just popping up and down i know it might not be his index finger
but whatever it is yeah um 19 hours is a lot and ian rap port delivered that with a straight face
that was like ian rap port deserved a race today because he was like he did this whole thing about 19
hours a day for the finger and i've had finger injuries man okay i got a fuse right thumb it is a motherfucker
there's a lot of fine motor stuff and that's why i bet the packers today and that's why i took the under
because it's really hard to come back from stuff like that,
fine motor stuff in the cold, on the road, snow,
that sort of thing, throw the ball well.
And he didn't, he didn't, and that's okay.
Never been shut out before, been shut out now.
He's got that donut.
Scambling to get the, Russ was scrambling to score.
Don't blame him.
But they were like calling timeouts and shit,
people were like, come on, the Simpsons is on next, right?
Like, fuck.
Whatever, it's six, I wanna hear 60 minutes, like,
Yeah.
And I'm watching Russell Wilson
running around calling timeouts
like it's the end of the Super Bowl.
The pick that was the real killer,
I think they were down like 3-0
and he just forced the ball
into the end zone.
At that point,
it felt like Green Bay was comfortable,
but that was uncomfortable
for a moment
and Russ gave it away.
And then, you know,
they traded interceptions in the end zone.
D.K. Metcalfe trying to reenter the game
after being ejected.
This guy is fucking funny, dude.
He's funny, but he's very, very emotional.
At the end of the day,
well, if you guys get later into the playoffs
or into the season,
that can cost you your season.
Yeah, you can't.
I love the way he plays.
You just got to be,
he's just got to be like,
you know, I've done it.
And that's what coaches are personal fouls,
but that's what coaches are going to teach him.
Hey, chirp at this guy.
That's what,
hey,
nudge this guy one extra time after,
after he gets up because he's always going to end up
reacting like this.
It's a bad, it's a bad niche
to put on tape. That's, that's all it is.
And the fact that
you don't know when to stop. To your
point, if they want to play in big games,
there's going to be situations where people are going to
try you, especially with what he's put on tape.
So, I mean, like, he knows.
I think he knows. And, and
the Seahawks, man,
I just don't think it's their year.
I don't. I just don't. I don't want
to overcomplicate this thing. I just don't
don't think it's their year. There's too much
traffic in the NFC to like I think we've gotten to the point in the year where we talk about
certain teams and it's unfair to like not talk about them but if we're talking about winning a
Super Bowl are you seeing them make a run to win a Super Bowl from a wild card spot winning that
extra game on the road all that stuff because that's probably what you're looking at you know
unless they can make a run here late and maybe they can any given Sunday man yeah any given
Sunday for sure I want to apologize to Trevor Simeon one more time just one more time
You're fine quarterback, dude.
Fine quarterback.
You know, like Trevor Simeon played fine today.
And I did hear that OBJ, there was a bit of a hang-up on, hey,
part of the snag in New Orleans was the quarterback.
It's not to say he's a bad player.
Just say, anyways, Sean and whoever he trouts out there under center
can make anything a game.
I mean, I've watched Sean Payton win a game with Hinton with Taysam Hill.
I've watched him win with Teddy Bridgewater.
I've watched him win with James Winston.
And now I've seen him go toe to toe with teams
and beat Brady with Trevor Simeon.
It is hard to kill the Titans,
and the Saints almost found a way to do it.
If not for a Troutman false start on the two-point conversion.
He'd probably be my hollow man this week.
Troutman, tight end, again,
like, you just don't want to be this guy.
It sucks.
You're down two.
I had the total at 44.
My only hope was them missing that two point conversion
so I could push and I had the Titans
so it worked out pretty well.
Only the joke was on me, Batman,
because I forgot I didn't bet the Titans money line.
I bet a minus two, so it was a push.
It was like a double push.
So don't count your chickens.
But I bought the half point, guys.
And when you buy the half point, you're never sorry.
You're never sorry.
You won't know you're sorry.
It'll just gradually sneak up on you
and you'll eat all that juice.
and you'll just be in debt,
but like you won't be sorry in one instance.
You'll be happy for things like today when I pushed
because I bought the half point.
But Troutman, I can thank for that.
Lines up, false start, they're pushed back,
they can't get the two-point conversion.
Titans win, tough way to lose a game.
Really tough way to lose a game.
And this team's been through a lot this year.
It feels like the Saints are always going through stuff.
Geography, issues, traveling, injuries.
You're without Alvin Kumar today.
Alvin Camara,
without making here, I don't know how to say that.
You know, this dude is instant offense.
He's a lot like Christian McCaffrey and Carolina.
You know, if you don't have him, the team looks way different.
Titans are in first place, five straight playoff teams from last year.
But the biggest thing in this game was before the half,
we talk about the middle eight.
I can recycle this every week.
And you tell me, hey, Chris, I'm tired of hearing about
this shit, but like before the half, coming out of the half, it's so important. Today is proof.
I mean, 6 to 6, right before the half. Tana Hill benefactor of a terrible call. Okay, sometimes
teams get lucky. Terrible call. Phantom personal foul leads to a touchdown right out of the half.
It goes from 13-6-26 by way of a fumble. You can't do shit like that. And a Sean Payton team is
well coached. They shouldn't even be in the game, but in a big situation like that,
middle of the game, and the end of the game, they came up short because they made
mistakes. You know, they had bad luck with the phantom roughing, and they made a mistake
out of the half. Same thing at the end of the game. So, Troutman, my hollow man, O of eight,
the last eight, two-point conversions. So he's probably the most unlucky guy to be number eight for
Sean Payton.
Sean Payton just probably
not very fond of Troutman tonight.
Definitely not. Definitely not.
Only a couple games left.
We'll get out here.
Cowboys and Bills,
both blew teams out.
It was like 1993 out there today.
These teams are elite.
Both of them at the same time.
I don't know what to make of that.
And I guess Atlanta,
who I think I gave out Atlanta.
Fuck me, I gave out Atlanta.
I gave out the Raiders.
Did I give out the Raiders?
gave out Atlanta.
Okay, so there's no way I won them all.
Give out the Pats.
That's good.
Okay.
I gave out Atlanta.
My mistake, forgot about hate week.
Makes sense.
They were out of hate.
Like, expended all the hate last week,
and they just came with a real, you know,
chill attitude today,
got their asses handed to them.
If you were to ask me which team I learned more about today
in their blowout, Cowboys or Bills,
I would say I took more away from the Cowboys game.
Because they are contenders,
but what I wanted to see was that DAC
looked normal,
throwing on the run, moving around.
Last week, I wondered
as long as he was sitting there cold,
the way he kind of, you know,
the way they limited,
the way they used him,
obviously they didn't have a lot of snaps.
I worried that calf thing was going to compound.
It was not compounding today.
They put up 45 on these guys, basically.
At one point, Atlanta was down 283.
Okay, like, everybody in the stadium
knows that joke when it happens.
283,
And then the Calv, people are like, oh, 283,
is Atlanta going to be on the other side of this?
Cowboys block a punt.
And then they go for two.
And it turns out that the only two teams to be down by 30
and have a two-point conversion tried on them are the Falcons all time.
The Falcons today and the Falcons like some number of years ago.
So the joke's still on them.
Jokes still on them somehow.
So it's a big Dan Quinn game.
Although I think they're happy with Arthur Smith.
I think it's early.
Dan Quinn revenge game.
You know, he struggled.
defensively in Atlanta.
Defense played pretty good today.
Put the clamps on him.
And Dak, man, happy he's healthy.
I think he's going to be in the MVP convoy if he's not already there.
This thing is like, it's cyclical, right?
We had a Justin Herbert month.
We had a Lamar month.
He can't win now because he had a bad game.
It's not the Heisman.
So the sum of, you know, all the games you play.
Having said that, I think if Dallas gets hot this month,
the name will be Dak, right?
And it's Thanksgiving time, bro.
and that's when the Cowboys get all the pub
as if they hadn't all year anyways
but you're going to be cozyed up hearing a lot
of Dak Prescott pieces
around the holidays
and if they peak
he'll be able to ride that momentum into
December. Bills, I just need to see more
dude. I just need to see more. Great,
you beat the Jets and I still trust the
bills as much as any team in the AFC.
He was that quarterback, defense improve.
But 24 takeaways in nine
games. Okay.
I don't know how you want to look at that.
like they're doing something right, I always look at it like eventually you fade that, right?
Eventually you're going to stop getting the turnovers.
You know, it's a law of averages.
I do think that with turnovers, there is some element of, hey, what goes up must come down.
And I don't want to be there when it comes down because it's been pretty good for you and you haven't been winning every game.
So the only thing I want to say here is Mike White.
This week, all I saw was a bunch of quotes that said, I was supposed to get drafted in the first round, which maybe so.
but like this is why you don't do quotes like that
because then you throw four picks
it's like this is just the universe the way it goes
same thing with turnover same thing with Mike White's picks
you know one week Mike White is he's in
can the next week you throw four picks against the bills
and you're right back down to earth so
uh Zach Wilson's sitting there at home
like you know that that should be probably
my fly on the wall as I'd like to see what Zach Wilson
had to say as he was watching well probably watch him
from the sideline he's not at home but under his breath
he's probably thinking to himself
Not so easy is it, motherfucker?
Like,
first round of my eyes.
First round.
It's hard.
Him and Sam Darnold are thinking the same team.
Darnold. Darnold's sitting somewhere like fucking Mike White.
You know what I mean?
Like Mike White, bro.
Get a load of this guy, huh?
Chad Pennington sitting somewhere.
Like, you think this shit was easy?
You know what I mean?
Mike White is.
Mark Sanchez.
Mark's squant.
He's calling games.
Like, we got to get control of this guy.
he's out of control.
Bills did it.
They got control of them.
So,
India,
and by the way,
mall for Mike White having swag and wanting to,
and be,
that's the mindset you've got to have.
You do.
But when you put it out in the universe,
motherfuckers have podcasts.
Thanks.
So they're going to talk.
Indian Jacksonville.
Jacksonville hate Carson a bunch,
bro.
Like,
that's not how you drew it up.
You're supposed to throw for 400,
crews.
It's supposed to be easy.
They made this tough.
Jacksonville hit Carson a bunch,
and Taylor had like 100 yards in the first quarter,
but then ended like with like 117.
So it was a chore.
Here's the problem with Trevor Lawrence right now.
Understand they're going to lose.
Understand he's going to throw bad picks sometimes.
Here's the problem with Urban Meyer,
and here's the problem with Trevor Lawrence right now.
Yeah, I'm calling into question the way they're operating that offense.
Like it just can't be.
Can't do that.
Philly and Denver
wrap it up
here's a quarterback
that has been out playing
Trevor Lawrence
Trevor's making some
crazy throws at times
so I'm not trying to take
too much away from him
but today
Jalen Hertz
it's not a rookie
but it feels like he is
just dude everything
he went through last year
played pretty damn good
in Denver dude
I don't know if it's that thin air
but like the balls
were right on target
him and Devante Smith
what a connection.
He's going to make it hard
if he plays like that
for Howie Roseman to break that duo up.
If he plays like that,
you know, a lot of people are like,
it sounds simple, man, but like,
yeah, you want to know what you want to do
to make your job secure
when your team has a bunch of picks?
Play like that.
Yep, just make kids.
Just play like that.
Keep making plays.
Just play like that.
Do that.
You know what I mean?
Devonte Smith probably gets my OA award.
And I don't know what the consensus was.
on that touchdown.
Like, was he in, was he out?
I mean, his back kind of hit all at the same time, I felt like.
But I feel like that's one of those touchdowns.
You can't take it away.
You just can't.
You can't help be excited about the young skill guys in Philly.
The young skill guys on that field today,
the defensive backfield that the Broncos had
competing with those Eagles wide receivers.
And this is with Goddard out early, I think, with a concussion.
You know, they were able to put a bunch of points on these guys.
this is why
the Broncos
people aren't sure what to make you man
it's one week
you beat the shit out of the Cowboys
the next week you make an
offense that hasn't looked consistent
look very good and
yeah good win for the Eagles
my friends were tormenting me tonight
like my friends were dropping like flies
Jason Kelsey hit the deck
I thought he was he was writhing in pain
I don't know what it was
Fletcher Cox hit the ground
and I thought his arm exploded,
bro. Evidence there was a stinger. You can't do that to me, Fletch.
Fletch, you can't do that, dude.
I know you don't listen to this podcast,
but somebody who listens to the podcast
and knows Fletch, tell Fletch,
I mean, I guess I could just text him,
but Fletch don't do that shit, dude.
The guys in here were looking to me like,
I mean, I was scared. Usually I don't get,
I know people to get hurt all the time.
I, you know I love you if I give you,
oh no.
I'm so desensitized to injuries on the field.
but if my friends yeah Kelsey Fletch that was a long day for me don't do that guys
but Jalen Hertz throws the ball like that it'll be hard for Howie to make a move like that
that'll go against the grain publicly in Philly because people will really like this guy
so play like that and the Eagles had their 50 50 50 50 running the ball today
did they have their 50 50 50 again Jordan Howard went 12 for 83 Boston Scott 11 for 81
and Jalen Hertz 14 for 53
Oh, Urban Meyer is beside himself.
That is incredible.
All the T-shirts that Nick Siriani's hat on,
get a 50-50-50-50-tshirt, dude.
We're going to make a 50-50-50-tshirt if you don't.
Hey, Nick Siriani, I will send you a 50-50-50-tshirt.
Will you wear it?
Greenlight merch.
A lot of people in Philly listen to Greenlight Potibu.
I don't know.
The only thing I didn't get was,
was the Bridgewater tackle thing.
And I know like when you like somebody as much as Teddy Bridgewater, nobody wants to say it.
But what the fuck was that, man?
Business decision.
Sometimes you get caught on film, like, taking a bad angle as a tackler.
And it looks like you didn't try, but it's like a bad angle.
Like one time Chris Johnson was running by me.
And I looked on the tape and I was so embarrassed because it looks like I didn't try to really tackle him.
But he was just that fast.
People don't understand it.
This was, um...
Is your quarterback supposed to tackle, though?
Like, how much does he be?
practice that. And in Teddy's
defense, he's had some injuries.
Yeah, of course. They probably don't want him
tackling. He probably doesn't want to tackle.
But you're going to want to make an effort.
You're going to make some kind of effort.
And I'm the biggest Teddy fan in the world.
But you're going to get, you get
suplex for a living.
We're just asking you to stop, drop, and roll, man.
Just slow him down so someone else
can get to him too. Yeah, just be a, just be like
a body in the way. Just roll.
You know what I mean?
Grab onto an arm. Don't even grab. We're not even
ask you to grab.
like just kind of like salmon upstream into the kneecaps you know like that's all we need dude
so i don't know how that that's going to look tomorrow but maybe that's they they have that rule in
denver i think that does it guys i think we covered most of the football we were able to record a
football podcast i did that with a hangover and with the tom sagura show right in the middle of the
tom sagura could have made that tackle on uh the teddy bridgewater passed up
And he said that AJ Hawk told him that he could play football at Florida State.
So he certainly could have made that tackle.
And when AJ, when I heard AJ said that to Tom, I was like, hey, Jay, what you doing, man?
Gassing Tom up like that.
I did tell Tom, I think he could walk around at Florida State.
No question.
No question.
In college, you need bodies, dude.
Like, dudes walk on all the time.
Like, you don't have to be some prolific athlete to walk on.
Bro, he could not walk on.
What?
You don't think Thompson Kirk could walk on at Florida State?
After seeing that basketball video, hell, no.
Hell, no.
That's the only athletic thing I've ever seen of him.
Yeah, well, he had a bad day.
He's getting folded up.
He had a bad day, dude.
He had a bad day.
We'll be back Wednesday with Macon, who had four beers this weekend.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, he was in rare form, dude.
Rare form.
So we'll see if he's recovered by Wednesday.
Yeah, while you guys were drinking.
You got the
Pokemon's
I was out getting the new
Pikachu packs
And shout out to
Uzo Art for the dope coat
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