Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Week 10 Recap. Shouts Out: Whitworth, Flores, Talib (5:08). Ravens vs Patriots (16:38). Eagles vs Giants (38:56). Week 10 Awards (50:36).

Episode Date: November 16, 2020

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Some of the stuff we saw today, Breeze getting hurt, the bucks waking up. Also, you want to keep an eye on Bridgewater's knee there. Listen, the Panthers aren't going anywhere, but they could ruin some people's year. The dolphins are good. That's one big headline from today. I feel like every week we're like saying it louder and louder. It was like, dolphins might be good. Now we can say it out loud.

The dolphins are good. And they looked good in those uniforms, too, by the way. They should just keep those. The chargers, new get-ups look tremendous. and most importantly, we get my favorite playing football, a Hail Mary. Happy Monday morning, everybody. This is the Green Light Pot. I'm your host Chris Long, and it is literally Monday morning for me as well.

Watch the end of the Baltimore New England game just a bit of go. I feel like my clothes are wet from watching that game. Like just sitting here through the TV. That was ridiculous. Can't wait to talk about that. Real football has begun, guys. Okay, it's getting dark. in the first half of the late games,

which means pretty soon the Sunday scurries are going to get even worse, and football is going to get more and more meaningful. These games are getting more and more important. And teams had better hurry up and win, because as we saw last week, this league is ready to keep this train moving into the postseason no matter when this thing falls through. You know, you look around the country,

there's cases up everywhere. And last week we had our first big, oh, shit moment, I think, in the NFL where they were like, yeah, we might not finish. So they put in the 16 game playoff contingency plan. And if you want to win football games, you better get busy doing it. You just never know. So it's meaningful. Some of the stuff we saw today, Breeze getting hurt, the bucks waking up.

Also, you want to keep an eye on Bridgewater's knee there. I think you get hurt on a sack late in the game. Listen, the Panthers aren't going anywhere, but they could ruin some people's year. They're the type of team that can ruin people's years. So keep an eye on the Bridgewater situation there. They haven't ruled them out for next week yet. I think they're going to wait on the MRI. The dolphins are good.

That's one big headline from today. I feel like every week we're like saying it louder and louder. It was like, oh, dolphins might be good. Oh, what are they doing? They're going to start the rookie. Oh, the dolphins are maybe pretty good. The dolphins are good. Now we can say it out loud.

The dolphins are good. And they looked good in those uniforms, too, by the way. They should just keep those. That matchup was unbelievable. The chargers, new get-ups look tremendous. And, I mean, it was electric paired with those old Miami uniforms that they should wear every week. And finally, and most importantly, we get my favorite.

favorite playing football. Probably everybody's favorite playing football. I don't know about that. Maybe this is chalky. I love a Hail Mary. There's something about it. I love it so much I get mad at people when they fuck it up. You know, like I get mad in desperation situations where teams don't, don't put their best foot forward. It's nice when you have a guy who can get outside the pocket and just whip the ball 60 yards. Hail Mary situations, I think they're going to be all right for a long time. As long as they have nuke. I mean, that was really all him, but Kyler as well. Yeah, I'm going to talk about two quarterbacks who are under pressure, who have been under pressure a lot. These two quarterbacks are kind of off the hook in losses today. Those quarterbacks are

Lamar Jackson and Carson Wentz, who at this point, let's, let's, I'm not doing a thing where I'm putting Carson and Lamar in the same conversation, but they're undeniably both headlines right now. And everything's relative. Carson's struggles are much worse. But with Lamar, there's a larger discussion as it pertains to a guy who won the MVP last year and can't seem to get going again this year. And some of the Greg Roman tricks and the smoking mirrors

are wearing off. And you're waiting for that game that's going to get him out of this slump. And those two guys could have used big-time performances today. They didn't get them, but I'm going to tell you why I think they might be off the hook and it's more about the teams they play for. And then we'll get in some awards with my co-host making gunner from across town.

Sunday night, it's a PJ night for Macon. He likes to be at the crib. We're going to get to some awards in a little bit. First off, I want to shout out David Boktiari. My man got paid, dude. four years, 105 mil,

and it just like it broke like at the end of them squeaking out that victory against the Jags. It was a funny time to hear that news. But one of the best and still somehow underrated tackles in football, they don't usually underrate left tackles.

I don't know what it is about this guy if he wears a funny number to some people or if the long hair is off-putting or if the fact like his past set is awkward, but he is a really, really good player, and he's vitally important to Aaron Rogers. And I got to imagine, if you wanted to be excited about being there long term finishing his career there, that guy for all the investments that they failed to make, it's a nice piece to have. So shout out to him getting richer than rich.

The rich get richer. He deserves it. Also, on the offensive line front today, you hate to see. Andrew Whitworth go off on a cart. I mean, hate to see that, man. He's just one of those guys. You know when some players, here's the thing about injuries. I feel weird doing this,

like spending three, four minutes talking about when one guy gets hurt, who's done everything there is to do in football, who's had a tremendous career, possibly a Hall of Fame career, I don't know, hadn't thought about that. Incredible longevity, dependable. why am I more, you know, broke up about him going off on a cart than all the guys that maybe aren't his big names?

You know, like, I feel funny about that sometimes spending so much time talking about a guy like Andrew Whitworth when he gets hurt. But there is just something about, you know, guys that are incredibly respected around the league who have great names and who have had great careers, especially if they're towards the end of their career. I mean, he's in what year 17? So no knee injury, whether it's, you know, an MCL or an ACL or whatever it is. I mean, last I heard, it's not the ACL. It sounds like it's an MCL. He's going to IR. There's a chance he'll be back if the Rams can make a deep run.

But no matter what, it just, well, I should be bummed anytime a guy gets hurt on the field. I'm especially bummed for a guy like Andrew, who's a really good dude, a really good player. And also the gravity of him going off on a cart right now as you look at his career because at this age there's just no guarantees. And of course, when he's riding off on the cart, we don't have word that it's probably not an ACL. And guys are flooding the cart from both teams. And you can always tell when somebody gets hurt if it's apparent that it could be very serious. The way guys treat a guy on the other team as he's riding off the field. field is often a pretty good barometer of how he's felt about around the league.

So as bummed as I am for Andrew Whitworth, he had to feel touched to see the way everybody reacted to him going down because that goes to show the respect level he has in this league. Hope he's well and back out on the field soon. You never know that guy's, you know, he's like the Frank Gore of offensive tackles right now. Big shout out to B-Flow, Brian Flores. I mean, he almost slam dunk being this year's best head coach from the Belichick tree today, including the root, okay? But the root is very stubborn.

He just had to upstage B-Flow tonight. But body of work, Brian Flores, definitely this year the most successful coach out of that tree. You got to call it like it is. He's done a great job. And they are, contention for a for a playoff spot and i don't know if 2008 was the last time they made the playoffs but that's the last time they won the division that's not out of the question either um and today was

interesting because before the pat's game you're thinking okay i just watch mattie p b kind of blow another big lead and you know the ends near for him there in detroit and he was the big name coming out of of New England, but Brian Flores has kind of stole the show and his dolphins are ahead of schedule and two as a star and you get a block punt early this is what they do now. I mean

I thought that they might not win today because although the charges have found a way to lose pretty much any game they're in, I thought that it was unsustainable to do what the dolphins have done the past two weeks. I thought it was unsustainable. You know, because of all

the scores that they'd created on special teams and defense that were, no doubt about it, a testament to the blitz packages that they employ the special teams that they're playing, but also the mistakes of their opponents. And you get another block punt early today. They're jumping people. You get punched in the face as soon as you play the dolphins.

You get punched in the face. And they made Herbert look pretty uncomfortable, relatively speaking. So very, very big win for them. And again, I mentioned the uniforms, gorgeous, just gorgeous. Shout out to Akib Talib. Listen, this was, if this slipped under your radar,

which it might have because it involves the Washington football team and the Detroit Lions playing in Detroit, mind you. Couldn't be a more desolate football scape as you come in from break

and there's nobody in the stands and you're looking at indoor football in the Midwest. And it's featuring two teams that are kind of out of contention, but they're really not. and neither team is like a sexy team to watch. Tough draw for for a key, his first time,

color commentating a pro football game. I didn't even know he was trying to do this. I'd seen him do some spots and like halftime shows and whatnot, and that usually means that a guy's trying to, you know, or if he spends a day at ESPN and does the media rounds, he's looking to do something. Man, he was a really good player. He might be pretty good at this, man.

I was excited for him. A lot of people were complaining when I said that he was great. Well, I caught the end of the game. I caught the finishing sequence of that game, the last couple of possessions. And yeah, rough around the edges depends on what you want to hear when you're watching a pro football game. I had somebody in my mentions after I complimented Akiv and said he did great. He said he was terrible. How many times do you say, man?

I said, yeah, but did you learn something? Like, did you learn something about football? because I could tell that the same thing that made him a very smart player is going to make him a smart analyst. He does the homework and he has a terrific career to look back on and draw anecdotes from

and understanding from. So it's pretty cool always to see players get a shot in the booth because they give you a different kind of angle, especially young players. But when it's a guy that's outside the box as far as the structure of how he's calling a game when we've seen that like Pat McAfee is kind of like set the you know media landscape on fire

a little bit doing all types of stuff including calling college games like it's rassling you know like that's different and it's exciting and it's a you know it's it's something different than the you know what do they call those platitudes the uh hollow platitudes that you often hear from somebody putting the finishing touches on a good call from the play-by-play guy. Or, you know, a lot of times, like, I hear the color commentator make a blanket statement, and I'm just like, I'm not sure he really believes that or understands that, because I hear him talk about my position, and he misses a lot of things. So how can I trust him talking about second-level stuff?

Is this guy just mailing it in? Is he doing his homework? Not everybody's like that, but you hear that stuff a lot, and it's hard. The game's moving fast. you have people in your ear. You got information to process. And, you know, like, you're on national TV. There's a lot of pressure.

I thought he did a really good job. And I don't get a fuck about structure so much. That's why, like, streaming is getting more popular now. I do a streaming show on Thursday nights with Andrew Hawkins and Kerry Champion. Actually, this Thursday, it's going to be us three and Von Miller. Because Vaughn's doing some stuff on Thursday nights. You can check that on Amazon Prime. It's unstructured.

That's why people are more into like live watches now than they ever were. And I think eventually Akeeb will get the structure, but pretty good start. Shout out to Connor Barwin. Connor Barwin, man. Remember him? Philly fans remember him. Texans fans remember him. Great career.

Really good linebacker, outside backer, edge player. And an all-round great dude. I've talked about Connor on this pod before, but he got a job in the front office with the Eagles right out of football. and he's a real asset there from what I understand because he's a smart dude and he brings the football knowledge and he's doing it for the right reasons

because he's really motivated. He goes right into football. I think he's fucking nuts to do that. How about some free time? But he goes into the front office. He's been there a year. COVID hits. Defensive line coach goes down.

Connor Barham was like an assistant coach this week. Pretty funny. I got a text this week that said that Fletcher Cox and Brandon Graham, we're coaching the D-line in practice. So, like, you know, like, it's great to have veteran leadership, and it's great to have guys like Connor Barwin around the building as well. So shout out to him, the more you can do.

It's kind of a football saying the more you can do. It's almost like a sarcastic thing because the more you can do in football, the more you're going to do. And that can be a bitch. Like, I was on a podcast with Ben Garland this week. who's offensive lineman for the Niners. And he, I know him through Waterboys, but also through playing against him on the field.

And he started out as a DeLyman. Every former D. Lyman playing O-Line, there was a moment where a coach asked, can you do this for me today in practice? Can you go play guard? Can you put a penny on and play guard for us? Whatever it takes, the more you can do. Well, next thing you know,

you're not a defensive lineman anymore. And that's the thing that's the thing, they say is like be careful i used to tell bow allen because bow allen he can do a lot of stuff he's a more you can do guy people take advantage of you people ask you do a bunch of dirty work and then all the sudden next thing you know you're playing scout team offensive line whatever it takes coach that's great bo the more you can do i used to say bo they're gonna fucking move you to guard man you're great at what you do but these coaches they always want to overthink it the more you can do connor barwin worn three hats in two years now.

A year and a half, been in all three levels of a football program? Pretty crazy. All right, so, Ravens' Pats. Let me just say this. My entire adult life, including my playing career,

if the Pats are in prime time, it's an automatic. They have the pressure on them. You know, they're the team to beat. And most times they do win, although we've talked about times where they haven't,

relative to Tom Brady struggles the other night. We talked about memorable bad losses. I remember Tampa on a Thursday night, I believe, maybe in 2017, like a random stinker. They've lost to Miami in prime time a few times. I remember Tom used to struggle ironically down in Florida. Talked about the Kansas City drubbing in 2014, I believe it was, something like 41 to 14 or something.

We were talking about that as evidence This is why we shouldn't panic with Tom Brady. But for years, those were the exceptions to the rule. The rule is the Patriots were the team to beat in prime time. And they had the pressure on them. And Cam Newton, who's found himself in New England, much the same for him. You know, like pressure has always been on him in prime time. And this year we've kind of killed the Pats and we've killed Cam.

We have. We really have, to be fair, as far as this year is concerned. and possibly with Cam, barring him getting well physically after a year where I don't think he's been well physically the whole time. And the run, the QB run game's only going to continue. Like people have written Cam off.

This was, this was a different spot for the, for the Pats, especially. I mean, they were another football team tonight. They were another football team. Touchdown dogs. All,

the years, Pat's fans mustook being disliked for being counted out. Now you're really counted out for sure. And if we hadn't mathematically killed them yet, this would have been it tonight. Had they lost this game mathematically, they're out. So this was a different spot for the Patriots.

And beyond that, it was supposed to be a get well game for the Ravens. You know, last year the Ravens beat the Pat's 37 and 10. We talked about why, you know, that's not a great matchup for the Pats due to the way they're built. You know, their big guys is a second level. Last year was like Van Hoy.

It was high towers, guys like that. And you get those guys running sideways. That's not what they want to do. And so it became very apparent that had the Pat seen the Ravens again in the playoffs, that wasn't a fluke. That was a matchup problem. The Ravens might have taken a step back this year, but not like a step back, like almost losing to the Jets six days ago,

kind of step back. No, that was the Patriots. the Patriots were expected to lose this game. Now the Pats winning this game is not remarkable to me. I mean, we've been questioning the Ravens, and by the way, I thought the Ravens will win the game, so I'm not saying I told you so. In fact, I had money on the Baltimore Ravens.

I took them on the money line because I was nervous. You might say, why not take the Pats? Because you get it. Just thought it was safe. uh, evidently not that safe. And we've questioned the Ravens and that's what makes this. I mean, this whole thing's been dicey.

To me, the Colts win last week wasn't like, oh, we're good now. I just thought this would be a get well game for them. We've questioned them. Now they're getting a taste of that New England scrutiny as good as, you know, the Ravens have been for years. I don't think I've ever felt like they were the target, right? I don't feel like anybody ever got tired of talking about the Ravens, the way that people were tired

for the past decade and a half of talking about the Patriots and that's what made their run so remarkable when you're hated for that long it's pretty you're doing something right the Ravens have started to get hated I mean like even sometimes I catch myself for somebody who loves watching the Ravens

as much as I have sometimes there's so much talk about the Ravens you're like you just it's you get oversaturated so they've never had that target on them in my opinion, the way they have that Lamar's put the target on them because he set the league on fire. Them losing

to New England tonight was not insanity due to the last couple weeks, the way they've been trending. The insanity was how insanely on brand the Pats won that game. Like the fashion in which they won that game.

Okay, like wet footballs. How many times does Chris Collins were stopped the game to tell us, or like people like Chris Collins were? Stop the game and tell us, you know, Bill likes to squirt water on the football. Like, everybody knows that Bill likes to squirt water on the football. You know, they practice with wet balls. You know, they practice outside.

You know, the weather's bad in New England. Like every fucking game, dude. But I have not seen anything like this. Anything like this. The rain was unreal, dude. And that was on a day where the wind was blowing all over America. It was blowing on my TV. It blew my direct TV out for.

for like three minutes. Called Cowboy Reading a panic in the four o'clock slot there. Thinking I wasn't gonna have any more football in the day. Had to get creative and shit. I mean, it was bad weather all day, but this was something else.

They actually delayed a game earlier. I hadn't seen anything like this. In the end, not a big win for the Patriots. Not in 2020. Not like a mathematical, like, we're in this thing. This tells us we're gonna win 10 games, I mean, I don't even know if that's possible anymore.

I haven't done the math. Yeah, I think they could still win 10 games if they go 6 and 0. But this wasn't like a huge win for the Patriots. I don't think their roster is as good as it's been in the past. Beyond the questions about Cam's health or is he right, I think they have too many deficiencies. But this was a big loss for the Ravens in a 20-20 cents.

While the catastrophic loss for them, in relation to Lamar's trajectory is not there yet. I think like one real bad, bad game and he's gonna really get turned up. But this was a bigger loss for the Ravens than it was for Lamar. I mean, these two quarterbacks, one's young, exciting, got a lot of football ahead of him.

He's the new kid in town as far as being a trendsetter, as far as being exciting. Somebody we've never seen anything like this person before. We haven't seen anything like this Baltimore. offense really before exactly. And then the other guy's an aging icon who's been a trend center for 10 plus years, who's been polarizing for

10 plus years. We've talked about the component that race plays in public perception of these two quarterbacks, right? I mean, a lot of people just, I think it's fair. Everybody that hates Cam Newton, everybody that hates Lamar Jackson, it's not a race thing. But there are certainly a lot of people that don't like

these two quarterbacks because they're black quarterbacks. How about that? Pretty fair. Like, you can have legitimate grimes with both these players, but there are also a lot of people that have illegitimate gris with these players. And I think the interesting thing about not only the fact that they're, like one's passing the torch to the other as far as being like a game changer, that new, fresh look at offense that we haven't really seen yet.

But they're both under pressure right now in 2020. And tonight I thought we'd learn something about both of them in their respective situations, I thought, and long term as well. I mean, Lamar's got a lot more runway to correct this thing. He's going to have a lot more opportunities in the future to develop and evolve and all that stuff. You know, Cam just took a one-year prove-it deal and he hasn't exactly proved it. As much as I respect the way he's played and battled, it hasn't gone to plan. So they're in different situations, but I was hoping to draw a situation.

some conclusions about both quarterbacks. It wasn't the night. This was not the night to figure out of Cam as well, and it wasn't the night to bury Lamar. Neither of those things can be said. Patriots winning this game doesn't mean Cam's back and the Ravens losing this game does not mean that Lamar is just spiraling out of control. And I've been critical of Lamar. I'm not going to do it tonight. It's unfair. Check back next week.

week. I do think this would have been a struggle to the end. I do think Bill knows how to pack the middle of the field and play zone. But I'm going to take Lamar off the hook due to the fucking typhoon that descended upon Foxborough. Giant flags whipping sideways. That's always what you want to see when you bet the Ravens money line, like early. And you've got them as the last leg and two or three big parlayers. Yeah, let me just see that flag blowing like it's going to just, rip off the flagpole and land in Dorchester. Like that's what I want to see when I turn on TV for Ravens' Pats game. Right off the bat, Damien Harris, right?

Heavy dose, you got Cam Newton trucking, Elliot. Did you hear that hit, by the way, on the QB poll early in that game? Ooh, Cam's playing hard, man. But then Cam takes a sack, out of field goal range. That's been the thing a little bit. the Ravens answer and they seem well on possession too. They go eight minutes, 94 yards.

They were loud. They seemed energized. They were fucking hyped in the end zone. You could tell it was like when we get this first score and sometimes teams will do this, they'll be like, hey, if we're slumping, you make that first play, everybody freaks out. We're all going to like, we're all going to celebrate extra. You know, manufacture that excitement.

I know it sounds stupid, that momentum. But then the Pats put a drive, together of their own and tied it up. And they were louder. And they sounded like a team having fun. They sound like a team with an attitude of fuck it. And yeah, you're like, Chris, you can really glean this from end zone

celebrations. Yeah, I can hear it into people's voices, man. This team was hyped. And that's what I saw. I just felt like this was the big brother that had mind control over the little brother and they were trying to assert that because they had nothing to lose. Even if the big brother isn't a threat most days

anymore. Even if the big brother's not a threat most days. Tonight we're a threat. And that's, that was like, to me, we're a threat and you know we're a threat tonight. And that was what that first drive said where they punched it in for six. And by the way, Cam hugging Rex Burkhead was like the most heartwarming shit I've seen all night. And I was rooting for the, I mean, due to, due to the situation in my pockets, I was rooting for the Ravens. But That was some heartwarming shit, man. These guys love each other, man. These guys are, they're playing for each other in New England.

And I know that because I, because you hear guys on the team talking about it. Privately, not like, you know, quotes. They, they respect Cam. I really want to interview Cam about his year in New England one day. I would love to do a Joe Rogan, like two-hour sit down with Cam. I want that interview. I know some fucking network's going to get it. They're going to have some highly produced bullshit.

You're asking them six questions that aren't that deep. I want to talk to Cam about this year. I am so interested to hear his take on what's transpired all year long. Because this is, you talk about a former MVP just going out there and playing for the love of the game in a terrible situation, knowing that this might be his last chance to prove it and wrecking his body. just going out there and being the number one offense and an offense that can only really run the football at this juncture on nights like tonight.

Been a team guy, man. So the Ravens are driving again. They sputter. 10-7, they kick a field goal. I mean, that was a chance for them to put the clamps down a little bit. Instead, the rain picks up. And I feel like at this point, you know, the Ravens could really use a stop and a score.

because you don't want to leave the pats in this thing, okay? I know that Bill is telling these guys. I just feel it. I mean, I can almost hear it. Like, if we can beat these fucking assholes the first 30 minutes, we're going to win this game. Not that he's going to say to relax, but something important if I'm a coach,

and I know we've worn this narrative out, but I don't think it changed as a result of last week and coming back from a three-point deficit against the Colts, if you can be beating these guys at the half, you're in a pretty good spot. You're going to have another 30 minutes to play. You heard what Justin Houston said. Don't roll your eyes at me if you're listening.

You're like, ah, that's a bullshit narrative. Justin Houston, tremendous football player for a long time, still balling an indie, breaking the team down at midfield. And you heard him. He said, you know, these guys are bullies. They're front runners is essentially what he said. It's not a secret.

So the Ravens don't want to leave the, the pats hanging around. They don't want the pads to be up to half. And instead, you get the Jacoby Myers to Burkhead Drive. Josh McDaniels, the little screen out to, well, it was a motion. So they're motioning Jacoby Myers. He catches the ball in stride and then throws it to Burkehead. Beautiful touch.

I mean, the guy used to be a quarterback, right? Beautiful touch. And kind of got Patrick Queen turned around. That's when the Patriots get a lead. and then under a minute you got a chance to get some good vibes before you go into the half and Lamar looks

you know looks right at stairs down Brown and J.C. Jackson with the pick. I don't know about a field goal in this situation but all they needed was one more chunk to get that field goal and they had one time out left

was like about 20 seconds to go. I don't know how they were feeling about the weather and a field goal but I would have looked at maybe picking up one more and getting the three and getting to half. I still have got hope because I do think they're that much better, even the way they've struggled, but the pats come right out and they go harder. They go counter it in Gokway. They go lead right in the

teeth of defense. You know, Humphrey gets dragged for like five yards down to the 33. You go play action to Myers who had a huge game. And then it's really demoralizing when Cam Newton, that big fucking QB just runs into the end zone untouched. That felt like kind of a knockout punch, man. It's two scores at this point. And at this point, it feels like, it feels like, like it's going to be hard with the rain to get anything done for the Ravens offensively. You get the bad snaps, the fourth and one, with Lamar lined up outside. You go Wildcat and Ingram's the quarterback, and there's a bad snap. That leads to a field goal.

This is a big drive now, down two scores at the end of the third. Lamar did a great job on this drive. The third and nine to Andrews, which ends up setting up the fourth and one, that was a nice throw, considering the rain that was coming down. This was one of those things, and it felt like to me in the second half that Bill or Ernie was controlling the weather. Like Ernie Adams had his little room up there, and he was manipulating the weather. I saw somebody on Twitter made that joke. I mean, I think it's genius.

I can picture it right now in a yellow raincoat turning it up to 10. It felt like every time the Ravens got the ball, the rain came down harder. and you know what I'm talking about if you watch this game. It was uncanny. It was like they had control over it. And another analogy would be for you, you know, watching Lamar get the ball. It was like the Truman show when Jim Carrey tries to get in the boat and get the fuck out of there. They just turn the rain on.

They just turn the rain on. Bill's up in the TV truck. Ernie Adams up in the TV truck. Just turning it up. But that was a great drive. I mean, he made a lot of good throw. there were a couple good throws, and so there were not a lot of good throws.

There were not a lot of throws to be made in the second half of that ballgame. But big decisive throw to snee for the touchdown. And then even though the Ravens started to play better, and we kind of did the back and forth thing, they could never flip the field. One of the worst sequences there in the second half was when they pinned the pads back

and eventually made them punt, but what they did was they allowed two big first downs that allowed the pets to get out of the shadow of their own goal line. The Jacob Johnson, is that, am I saying that name correctly? Jacob Johnson, yak, I call him Yak Johnson, because I'm not good with names, and I'm uncomfortable saying that. Jack Johnson, that catch was huge. They basically lose 25 yards of field position here.

If you start inside the 10, do the math, Lamar gets the ball back at around the 25, those yards add up because if you're getting the ball at the 45 and you keep them pin back there, you are maybe in four down territory, you know, and you can make those decisions. But that and the bad snap, again, terrible snap, lost like 15 yards doing that.

Those things meant that you couldn't capitalize. And the last thing I mentioned was Harbaugh's making, I believe he did this. Chuck Clark, he made him jump off sides in four minutes situation. This is at the end of the game where the Pats are icing the ball game and the Ravens are taking timeouts. Now it's second and two and you're short of the two minute warning and Chuck Clark just wildly jumps off sides and I'm like Chuck

Clark what the fuck are you doing? They panned a Harbaugh and Harbaugh's not even moving. I'm like yeah he did that on purpose. He've re-abled the pads because what he did was that offside stopped the clock. That gives them a better chance to actually make the stop and it worked because you end up with third and seven and over a minute to go. What you didn't want was to maybe get a stop on second and one and make it third and one and then give them the first down and then you're out of time. So I actually thought that was that was a beautiful bit of clock manipulation. And then you've got one last chance

for Lamar. It looks like it looks like the fucking scene in last Boy Scout, which I had never seen until last last year. I mean, the rain is coming down literally that hard. There was also seen in the fan with Wesley Snipes that I was pretty sure they would have postponed any pro sporting event in that big of a rainstorm. I learned tonight that that's not true. That last drive, you could hear the raindrops hitting the microphones on the field like hard, like smacking them. It was like my sound machine when you select like, you know, rain or whatever. It sounded like I've never heard rain hit a boom that way. A boom being the microphone boom

that they hold on the sideline. And of course, they can't get anything going. The game ends in a JK Dobbins drop who I put in last minute over James White as if that made any fucking difference. Hopefully I get to win. And again, this is a worst loss for the Ravens

because the defense wasn't good. This was a game where the defense had to step up. You got to win this game. You intend on winning a division. You intend on on getting home field advantage although it's not important this year

the Ravens have been pretty good and most importantly you want to get a buy and it doesn't look like you're going to A get a buy it doesn't look like you're going to win your division now strange things have happened but the Steelers got another win today and you're going to see them real soon

that's going to be a do or die game for them if they wanted to win the division and listen if they lose I mean they play the Titans and Steelers coming up if they go 0 and 2 out of that stretch they're in trouble, like in trouble, like could miss the playoffs. And listen, as bad as Chris Collinsworth and the gang on NBC want to put the Pats back in the Super Bowl as a result of this game,

I think the Patriots has found something. I think the Patriots did one thing they're well equipped to do is what I think happened. I think they did it, what their only option is to do, and Bill is surviving because he's a great coach. And he motivated these guys, and he convinced him of the importance of this. game and the leadership, Devin McCordy, guys like that, invaluable. But I also am not putting the Pats back in the playoffs because they won this game.

This is literally, this was their best shot to win. To go Buffalo Wild Wings, dump six inches of rain on the Ravens, and get the fuck out of there. Again, Titans, Steelers left. And for the Ravens, the slide started in Philly, where if you remember, the defense was really bad, gave up a bunch of yards on the back end, and almost let the Eagles back in that thing to win it. They were atrocious

versus the Steelers as a team, really. Offense turned the ball over a bunch. Lamar was bad. They ran the ball up to Steelers' asses, but the defense wasn't great. And then the Colts gave him a pick, that Marcus Peters pick, and that fumble for

six to get him over 20 points. The Ravens couldn't get over 20 points to that. But again, the rain takes Lamar off the hook, but not the Ravens from a game plan execution standpoint and certainly not on defense. So if you were hoping that I was going to skewer Lamar over, you know, not looking great in the rain, I'm sorry, I don't know who was going to look great in the rain.

Ravens got to be better. It's getting a nut cutting time for them, which means there's no margin for error. That was one quarterback who was under a lot of pressure coming in the game. And one quarterback who was much, much more clearly under a lot of pressure coming into this Sunday is Carson Wentz. I mean, Carson Wentz, Carson Wentz has been, you know, he's, he's had his lows this year. Let's just say that.

I mean, this is worst year as a pro. And somebody said today, Trump could win the NFC East. That's about it, huh? That in Alaska. If Danny Dimes plays like he did today, I mean, the Giants are the best team in the NFC East, because they're playing like the best team in the NFC East. because they're playing like the best team in the NFC East right now. They're playing inspired.

They're playing hard. They're playing physical. And I think we need to stop acting like we're shocked when something like this happens. We know who the Eagles are. They've showed us all year. That doesn't mean they can't be something different. They're going to get healthier. They're going to get better, we hope.

I don't know who they can be. I actually think, call me fucking crazy. I am not going to fight you on the fact they're a shitty football team right now. A lot can change in the next six weeks. They win this division, host a home playoff game. They might be able to win one playoff game. You might be laughing at me.

I've seen it happen. They looked awful today as a team. And they've actually looked, they've looked bad in a lot of spots this year. So at this point, they are who they are. And the Giants, we can't look all shocked and say to ourselves,

we're not the Giants. Like, right now we are the Giants. I'm using we as the Eagles, like, you know, because I associate myself mostly out of all the teams I played on with the Eagles, L.A. Rams, New England Patriots, Philadelphia Eagles.

That's the last team I play for, so I'm using the Wii thing. Eagles fans cannot be surprised. You can be mad, but don't be surprised. Joe Judge is a good football coach. Giants are well coach. Giants play hard. And I've done my share of bitching about Carson Wentz.

There's no doubt about it. He's been the reason they lost from time of time this year. I said, please take care of the football. He took care of the football today. Burnt the fucking ball. Threw it away. I got off the couch and clapped multiple times when he found the mascot in like the third row. It's a Bull Durham thing.

They said, hit the mascot. Bull Durham baseball movie. Go watch it. Makin's not here right now. No chance he's seen it. Actually, there's a chance he's seen that. But here's the thing. You know, like, I'm not going to skewer him tonight.

Everybody the last months has been like, stop making stupid throws. He didn't make stupid throws today. He did what you asked him to do. And it's not exactly like they're the greatest showing on turf right now. Miles Sanders helps him a lot. Again, I'm not going to bury him off this game. The same way I'm not going to bury Lamar off the last game. Just not going to do it.

This was an Eagles. team loss. Okay? Yes, I saw him fall down on third and one. Somebody stepped on his shoe. I saw him miss high once or twice. Spielman fucked up. Well, I mean, it wasn't a fuck up.

He just didn't see the tip ball that one time late in the game when they're backed up. And Carson skips a checkdown and Spielman's like, oh, you can't miss checkdowns. And by the time they get to the replay and he's like, oh, my bad, it was tipped. The entire city had tweeted a gif. You know, like, it had already gone viral.

Oh my God, he under threw a checkdown. The bad snaps made it look worse than it was. Like, there were bad snaps. I mean, Jalen Hertz dropped the bad snap too. There were drops. Fulgum even had, you know, one or two bad drops. There were penalties. There were 11 of them.

The bad offsides penalties start the game off. Like Malik Jackson's that extended that drive that allowed Danny Dimes to continue looking like the great white hope out there. Like, what the fuck is going on? The guy's fast. Okay? Can we stop saying deceptively athletic? Also, can we learn how to play the read option? I can't tell if that was Josh Sweat on the first touchdown run that the Malik offside set up.

I can't tell because he has a crossblock coming across the formation that he's got to address. Now, I don't know if he was supposed to play that and then get back out there to the quarterback. I don't know what their rules are there, but I know that it wasn't just Josh Schwett if it was him. they fooled a lot of a lot of a lot of dudes on that on that team with qb run action uh and the giants o line paved away for about 100 yards in the first quarter alone 92 yards in the first quarter and when you're trying to stabilize your franchise quarterback who is not playing like a franchise quarterback right now and you want it you want him to look like that guy again right as a defense i know these guys know that i know because fletcher cox had a sack at the end of the

first half and he looked that is the maddest I've ever seen a guy look getting off of having a sack I know there were some choice words and the half you know from the leaders on that defense on a team they'd tell you the defense didn't get it done man they didn't get it done I mean like for when the offense is struggling you're not playing the ravens you're not playing you know the the Kansas city chiefs this is the New York Giants you got batting down the hatches and try to make it easy for your offense to regain its footing and reintroduce some of these pieces that are starting to come back in the game.

Alshan Jeffrey on one target. Miles Sanders came back. Miles Sanders looked great. The O-line got some pieces back. So like some guys are coming back, but when the defense puts them in a hole right off the bat and gives up a touchdown drive and a read option to Daniel Jones,

I said before the game, I know they're not going to give up another long drive to Daniel Jones. that's why they'll probably win this game. There were anomalies in the first game, like the shot to Golden Tate for 50 yards. Well, there was a 40-yard shot to Slayton with the game on the line. The Daniel Jones run where he actually broke 20 miles an hour, which I think is the white speed of sound.

That's not happening again. It happened. It just didn't, it wasn't 50 yards or whatever. It was 30 yards. He would have ran for 70 if they were on the 30-yard line. These are things that they let happen again, and you put yourself in a hole right away. So Carson didn't play great.

This was not. I know it's just gotten to be so easy. We just hit the Carson panic button every Sunday, and I've done it. But this was a team loss. I mean, one of the biggest plays of the first half was that 71-yard punt, and really emblematic of what the Eagles dealt with,

they were pinned like the whole first half starting at the 18, the 6, 11, the 25-yard line. By the way, the 25-yard line was the best field position that the Eagles had all day. And Danny Dimes made some good throws. I got to be, I got to be, I got to be honest. This guy was good today.

I don't know who snuck Justin Herbert into the Danny Dime suit, snuck him into MetLife. but the floater on third and five over Maddox backed up I mean that was huge stuff like that allowed them to never get pinned and let the Eagles flip the field

I mean I talked about penalties 11 of them right 11 at the half I said to myself like they gotta stop shooting themselves in the foot no more penalties penalties are killing their field position bad anyways is getting worse what do they do right out of the half Kickoff return.

What was it? Half the distance of the goal? They get lucky because Boston Scott actually owns the New York Giants. He literally owns them, them and all their fans. Okay, I know the Eagles lost, but I had some fun with people on Twitter today.

Giants fans who I didn't know were this sensitive. They took issue with me saying that Boston Scott owns them. Let me tell you what full custody looks like. Boston Scott's taking full custody of all Giants fans. and a loss. Five foot six dude. He's all your dads. He's your dad.

Boston Scott, career. Rest of the NFL. 18 games. 20 yards of scrimmage a game. Five yards a touch. One total touchdown. Four games against the New York Giants. His children.

Something that he owns. 108 scrimmage yards per game. 7.4 yards of touch. Six total. touchdowns. My man owns the Giants. Okay, y'all won the game. I was just having fun with you guys, but he fucking owns you. He owns you guys.

I mean, Danny Dimes, man. Two more darts I want to mention. One to Shepard, kind of like a back shoulder, throw in the second half and the other one, like 30 seconds later on the other side of the field to Tate, almost like a mirror image throw. And I think that was on the drive that put them up 21 to 11. He stepped up, and like I said, Carson did not outplay him at all.

It sucks at the bar is this low, but he did not make those mistakes that we're, we've asked him, I begged him from my little podcast, just in case he ever listens to it. Just manage the game, man. You know, like, this is a situation where you're in the driver's seat and the NFC East, and the NFC East is terrible. Just manage it. And today he managed it. And he made some really nice throws, too.

I'm not going to like people could be in my mentions tomorrow like you're a fucking idiot you're carcin you know you're caping for carson go back to podcasts okay I had mark sanchise on here and we we were we were incredulous at some of the throws he's made this year he wasn't the problem today too many penalties too many mistakes when the offense is struggling and you need and you need to get them their footing again defense has to play really good and the defense didn't play really good. In fact, the defense play bad. That's not single in any one person out. Just the defense as a unit in a situation like this has to step up. And here's the thing. It's anybody's division. They might be bad now. They might not be bad in six weeks. I don't know. That's enough Eagles

talk because I know Macon wouldn't like it. Let's get to the awards and we handed these out earlier tonight without further ado. My co-host, Making Gunner from his son room. Week 10 of football, is in the books and now it's time to review the tape and get ready for week 11. There's no better place to get in on all the action than with Draft King's Sportsbook, America's top-rated sportsbook app. To add to the excitement of week 11, Draft King's Sportsbook is bringing back their can't miss offer. If you haven't tried Draft King Sportsbook yet, head to the app store now because you don't want to miss this. Draft King Sportsbook is giving all new users the chance to earn a sign-up bonus up to $1,000

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Gambling problem call 1,800 gambler or in Indiana, 1,8009 with it. So in the middle of a windstorm, we've got Makin Gunner from his domicile, about five miles Westa here. Make, what's the wind looking like outside your sunroom? Is the connection, the connectivity threatened tonight at the hands of Mother Nature? Hello! I have, the power has flickered twice. Chris, I thought about notifying you of that at a couple points throughout the day, but elected not to. I'm happy to report that the wind has died down and we're in for a smooth and entertaining 10 to 40 minutes here. Did you see Will Parks of the Eagles his sound bite this week by any chance about sky animals?

Oh, right, right, right. Refresh me. Well, I'll play it for you right now. And a lot of people don't know, man. I got an eagle right here on my arm, on a tattoo on my arm. So a lot of people didn't know that. And I had that before, you know, even my first year in the league. So, you know, I just always wanted to kiss that, that eagle because, you know, that's my favorite sky animal. And, you know, I just feel like he'll give me some blessings. Do you think he was serious?

I think he's completely serious. You think that he refers to eagles and other birds of sky animals? I think all birds are sky animals. I think he probably picked that up between the ages of four and six. It just stuck. stuck with it ever since. God bless him, dude. That's amazing.

Simplify things. We can all learn from that. Well, not really, because birds is a lot, it takes a lot less energy and effort and syllables and time to say birds than it does to say sky animals. But listen to this. You got your sky animals, your animals, and your water animals. Animals aren't earth animals?

Land animals? All of us land animals. Yeah, thank you. Sky, land, water. I like it. I like it a lot. All right. One quick uniform note here.

L.A., Miami. Probably the best matchup of the year yet. No? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Delightful. Oh, my gosh, dude. I mean, the Miami uniforms are unfair there.

And the bolts, they've set the uniform Twitter on fire with these new get-ups. So that was gorgeous. That was a thing to behold. Now that Miami might be a legit football team, let's make those the weekend, week out, duds. That would be terrific. It couldn't come in a better time to your point. Let's go superlatives.

Best playing ride, worst playing ride. Give me your best make. Well, I will go back to Thursday night and mention the Indianapolis Colts, which put you in a six-to-one hole in Thursday night time machine. You're staring a Waffle House right down the, hmm, pun I could not come up with. So that was a good plane ride home.

That was a great win for Phillip, my Rivers and the boys over the Tennessee Titans. I don't want to take yours. I'll just mention that yours, which is the right answer. It's the only answer today. The previous go-around, that club spent five hours on a tarmac. So anything that's different than that is going to. to be good. Who spent five hours on a tarmac? The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, dude. On the way to Carolina, they were five, five hours on a tarmac getting out of Tampa Bay because of a mechanical issue.

Tom had to be heated. We talked about how bad the flight was going to be to Carolina. Didn't we make that the worst plane ride last week? Or no, maybe I posthumously gave that that plane ride, the recognition midweek earlier this week. So yeah, dude, that was going to be bad. Anyways, are you kidding me? That made this game like Super Bowl tense. Holy shit, that was like a playoff game before five hours in tarmac. That had to be brutal. I will go Bucks, best plane ride, because it was the only road team that got to win today.

Only team today on the road that got a W. The Bucks, man, that third quarter, they really just, they choke the life out of those guys, man. And they imposed their will on Carolina. The first half was cute. The second half was, we've had enough of this shit. We're going to possess the football for, let's see,

nine minutes and 40 seconds in the third quarter, scored on all four possessions. All four possessions? I mean, to have that many possessions in a quarter, it's pretty impressive anyways, and to cash in on all of them, that's even more, golly, dude.

They can look like world beaters. They can look like a Super Bowl team, and then they look like a team last week. I don't quite get them yet, but I did say this last week. I'm not writing this team off because they lost 38 to 3. I listed all those things.

We talked about all the Super Bowl winners that have had really bad losses. Maybe we'll look back in a couple months and say, remember that Saints game? Yeah, they had 209 yards on 23 plays. Carolina had 34 yards. on 11 plays. So you could feel it.

You know, every time Carolina got the ball back, you were like, they need to score here. They need some points. I don't know if it's going to be three. They need to flip the field and they threw picks. In fact, the JPP pick, I think it was, that's the second time Teddy's kind of thrown a ball right to a D. lineman in his own drop in like two weeks.

He damn near to throw a pick like that a week ago, I think it was. And that pick was really costly for them. So again, impressive day for the bucks, 544 on 77 plays, 31st downs. Like what? Chris, welcome to the NFL to Mike Evans. The 2020 season is upon the great Mike Evans. 11 targets, AB 8 targets. Chris Godwin, six targets.

That feels about right. And rodeo rips off a 98-yarder casually. Buddy, and let me tell you something about that 98-yard touchdown run. That was really important. and I'm watching it on the highlights as we speak. He runs funny, man. His ankles are way behind him. Yeah.

But they say hit 22 miles an hour. I really like him, man. You can tell the difference in the upside between him and Fournette because that fumble early in the game at this juncture in the season for the bucks with what this Sunday meant to them, that fumble could have been like fatal

for an average player. That guy wouldn't have see the field again. They really like Rojo. You could tell because Tom Brady sprinted the entire length of the field after that touchdown. I mean, that was like, I haven't seen him run that far in quite a while. 21 in pursuit looked quite a bit faster than Rojo, but he kind of gave up on it a tad early. Yeah, I was just so fixated on like wondering how Rojo actually runs that way. So yeah, I mean, huge game for him in a lot of ways, the way it started out.

And then Tom being money after blowouts, Cowboy Reed pulled this one. I think after 20 point losses in his career, of which there are not many, he's 20 touchdowns, three interceptions. So bounce back game, I guess you knew it. And at halftime, 1717, end of the third quarter, 29, 17, and they didn't look back. Let's go worst playing ride. I think we'll team up and select the Buffalo Bills on a hail Murray, Chris. Ah.

Shouts out to Mike Tariko on that one. It was just freaking amazing. I will call my lovely wife Kate into the room to watch a replay like four times a year. And this was one of them. Kyler the creator, bro. I think Nuke is going to get the bulk of the love here. But just getting that ball into the air was quite a feat. Buffalo.

Well done. going on the road and getting a win and snatched. It was snatched from you there in the final seconds. 43-yard game winner. Well, you go from this, why it's such a bad plane ride. You know, like you go from you've got Diggs playing hero ball, really Josh Allen with a really nice throw, but Diggs has been the guy, so dependable, comes up huge.

You think you go on the road and you have one of these like season-altering wins. the bills of quiet as kept before that Seattle game, which that win looks less and less valuable every week, a Seattle win. They were sliding a little bit, and Josh was not playing well, and Josh had his moments they were even play well, but to go out there and finish that game

the way they thought they did for a good five, seven minutes, you know, Diggs is blacked out on the sideline with excitement. That's the kind of play that was. I mean, that's a big play. The emotional swing from that to, from a fan's perspective, the most beautiful thing in a football game, like the rare game-winning Hail Mary in the NFL.

Janice four years ago, right? I mean, shades of that. Not just the catch, which I'll get to in a second, but the, like you said, the ability to get that ball off and have the strength. There are quarterbacks at the 50-yard line that when they call a timeout, you can see the conversation like, can I get it there?

Do we have to put in a different quarterback? Kyleor Murray did that outside the pocket, right? And that's embarrassing if you're a defensive player in that situation. Knock the ball down. That's what they say? There's what, four dudes there make? Yeah, one on four. One on four.

And I'll put it, well, mathematically it's the same, but it sounds a lot worse. There are eight hands there on defense. Eight hands. There are two DeAndre, Hopkins hands and he's the one that catch the fucking football. That still shot is going to be a statue in Phoenix. And it's not

like he was the first guy in line or the last guy. He was in the middle of the four dudes. In the middle of the four dudes. Guarantee Phoenix has some racist-ass statues. This is America. Get one of those motherfuckers out of there and I need a nuke Hopkins dunkin on four dudes

statue. I can see it now. Life size. In the middle of like one of these little towns outside Phoenix. Maricopa County. Buffalo was going to go to eight and two. And now Miami's a win away from tying the bills at seven and three atop the FCs. And that's a long-ass ride back to upstate New York from what was probably a dry 75 today in Arizona.

And here's the kicker and why this is just such a slam dunk for a bad plane ride. I mean, this one of the easiest ones we've had all year, right? We didn't even talk about this. They're going to be landing at 2, 3 a.m. make? Yeah, maybe midnight 1. Those things go quickly. Midnight or 1 o'clock. Okay, so I'm looking at the weather here.

And tomorrow's weather, actually 11 p.m. to 1 a.m. is just windy lines. The windy lines on your weather app, that's all they got in Buffalo. You scroll down, mostly cloudy conditions with 33 mile per hour winds out of the southwest. Not gusts. the wind's just blowing at 33 miles an hour. So that's going to be a really fucked up flight. Let's go viewing party, shall we?

Sure. Sure. What do you got? The AFC West, you don't want to look at your division and see four quite capable quarterbacks. And the AFC West looks at Drew Locke today. Drew Locke goes one TD, four picks. That quarterback room includes.

Driscoll and Ripin. The other guys, Mahomes, Herbert, Derek Carr, I guess, serviceable. No, he's been good. Yeah, Drew Locke, there was some momentum there, and it was a race today in Vegas. And you want to be able to count on one to two wins in your division every year.

And the Broncos young and building, but they might not have the guy at quarterback still. No, you're absolutely right. I mean, it could have been a really bad day, but they're not exactly turning the corner. And it's not like the Raiders defense is scaring anybody. You know, would you say that's fair? That's fair.

And Drew Locke had a particularly bad red zone interception, which could have altered the complexion of that game. And I'm glad you got that right. I never get that right. Complexity, complexion. Yeah, that's one, that's one I have down. People also like to talk about a contingency when they mean contingent. So what?

People say that's contingency upon? No, it's more like the Louisville contingency at the game today is quite. Oh, that's not a thing? You can't say contingency? No, that would be a contingent. The Louisville contingent is a noun, huh? Yeah, contingent as in like group of fans over there. sideline, not making a whole lot of noise. That's so fucked up, man, really? They do that rampantly.

What, say contingency? Yeah, dude. That's all they say. They don't say contingent. I've never heard anybody say that that Rucker's contingent over there is awful quiet. Oh, hell yeah. Contingent. Yep, complexion. Godly. Viewing party. I'm going to go Seahawks learning that the Cardinals just stole a win. now this is interesting right because this year there's probably not a lot of jumbo trons in operation I mean it depends on if you have fans in the stands right they're not running a jumbo tron an empty stadium right or are they showing highlights around the league

I think they are showing highlights around the league like you know during a time out when I was on the sideline as a player you know we'd be going over a player getting a drink of water just sitting there in between a quarter and you'll see above the end zone on the big screen, like at the link, you would see the score of a Cowboys game.

You know, a highlight. They show Red Zone for 30 seconds. Like basically the whole stadium is reacting to a score that interests the Eagles contingent. Nice. Yeah. That contingent wants the Cowboys to lose.

Cowboys score, they boo. Cowboys get picked six, you know, everybody's on their feet like we made a play. that's not happening this year I wouldn't guess in that stadium in L.A. with nobody in it. With nobody in it, you're probably right.

So that's, so that's, I'm wondering how those players found out about that Hail Mary because the Hail Mary happened a minute before the onside kick failed for the Seahawks and that wasn't like a

layup recovery for the Rams. So such a tough minute for Seahawks who had, control over this division and were one of the lone undefeated in the league like what felt like last week, but it's been a couple weeks that they've been sliding and it started with that Cardinals game and Russell hasn't been great, but you go from that to holy shit. We didn't just lose this game. The Cardinals actually ended up winning that game that we all thought when, you know, a lot of times a coach walks around the sideline or trainers like, I looked at my phone, you know, the,

the, the bills just got the win. You know, everybody's like, all right, good. They probably found out walking into the tunnel maybe. I don't know, but it got real in about a minute for the Seahawks. This has gone full circle. And now Arizona is officially probably the better team at this juncture. When you played, was your phone on during games in your locker room? Was it off? How quickly did you look at it post-game and did that change win versus loss?

It was always on because, you know, I'm talking. texting before the game. Might be texting my wife from my family or something up to like, you know, 30 minutes, 40 minutes before the game. Because once you have 40 minutes before the game, your gloves go on and you can't text anymore. Like just you can't anyways. So there's nothing you would do other than change your music. Sometimes you really silence it. Yeah, you got to have it on vibrate. I mean, people don't just, I mean, some some obnoxious dudes might have their loud ass ring tone going off in the locker room. But I don't want to be the one that's making noise out of my locker. Like if we, if Doug got the team together or you know Jeff Fisher as the team together Bill Belichick

God forbid in that locker room put your fucking phone you know break it with a hammer before they go but like if your phone goes off while Doug Peterson's talking like it's going to be kind of uncomfortable for 20 seconds as everybody's trying to listen to him but like who's got their phone going off there's there's no there's no like fine if your phone goes off but yeah turn it on vibrate so Yeah, after a game, probably 30 minutes after the game, I check my phone. 30 minutes? 20 minutes after the game, maybe sometimes.

Huh, I would have put you out a three to four minute guy. No, because it takes time. I mean, like the game ends. You dab everybody up. You're changing jerseys. That's probably a five-minute process. Coach talks for five minutes. You go in, you might hit the shower first.

you might go to your phone first if you got to text somebody who's in town or you want to meet somebody after a win but after a loss my phone might not be open until I get on the bus which could be an hour and a half so yeah

I mean I wonder if somebody was walking around telling these guys like hey I hate to break this too we didn't just lose this game but the Cardinals are like now the team to beat in the NFC West even though the division is kind of tied

it's clear where this is trending fly on the wall my fly on the wall My fly on the wall is the Denver Broncos coaching staff. And let me tell you why, Chris. I'd like to be in those meetings this week because Tua has told Mike Floreo this evening that he expected the NFL to be harder. Wow. He expected it to be harder.

What a badass, potentially foolish statement for a guy who's now 3-0. He said he expected to see more looks, and he thought he'd be confused, but he said the game's already slowing down, and he thought it'd be harder. So up next for the Dolphins, the Broncos in Denver, and the Broncos appearing inept, I wouldn't be surprised if this word didn't even get to them. Should it get to them? I got to think that's bulletin board material for the upcoming week and try to confuse the hell out of them.

You know why it's bulletin board material? Because bad teams are just scouring the internet for stupid shit like that. They're going to be in here like, you're that shit? This little kid? This little fucking kid?

Doesn't think the NFL's hard? Thinks you suck? Hate your family? Like, no, dude. He just fucked up and misspoke probably in front of like, I don't know, Chris Collinsworth or something. I don't know who the fuck he,

who did he say? Floreo hollered at him. So Floreo probably went like this. So hey, Tua, this is Mike Floreo. Did you think it would be harder out there? And he probably caught him that way, let him in. Who knows? But still, the quote's now out there that Tua thought the NFL would be harder than this.

Well, good for him, man. I wish I ever felt that way. Fly on the wall, I'll go Drew Brees's MRI read. You can't afford to lose him. You really can't. Not in this race where they're peaking right now. and you're able to kind of now reassert your dominance and division with that big win last week.

Drew's round the corner, everybody's saying, man, I thought he was washed. Like we're all like, whew, well, now he's got a rib injury. I don't know what it is, like some sort of chest injury. That can go a lot of different ways. It could be nothing, or it could be something that's gonna stick with him for the rest of year, or it could be something that's gonna put him out

for the rest of the year. Like you can't rule anything out. And I don't want to speculate, but waiting on an MRI to get red, an MRI that's probably already done at this hour, definitely done at this hour, that's going to take upwards of, I don't know, 18 hours or something like that. You'll be waiting for the results all night. They'll be up sweating.

They'll be up thinking about what do we do? We don't have Teddy Bridgewater right now. Are we going to lose them for a week? Are we going to lose them for two weeks? Is he going to be all right? You can't afford with everything you've done the past few weeks to reassert yourself as a football team to lose him right now.

Taste him Hill every snap, I don't buy it. James Winston, he looked a little shaky to me today. I mean, but like, you know, it's his first action. He wasn't expecting it,

but it definitely didn't look like one of these things where I was wondering when he walked in the game, is Sean Peyton such a fucking wizard that he's going to make James look amazing and I'm going to wonder if, you know, like I'm going to second guest Drew Brees

and his greatness. It didn't play out that way today. He was very shaky. So I don't know what that's going to look like. I said that home field advantage was a really big deal to them, and I believe it is, even though they haven't been great at home the last couple years, because what's the alternative playing in Green Bay, like Drew Breeze, holding a cold, wet football? Nah, they want home field, so every game matters.

They're going to be nervous. Chris, next four for the Saints, home Falcons, away Broncos, away Falcons, away Eagles. With Drew, you probably like their chances at 4-0. with James Taysom combo. Two and two. Two and two? Yeah. Probably because, you know, I would like four and oh for them anyways.

And this is one of the reasons I think their prospects are so good is because they have a nice schedule lined up for them the rest of the way. But you do have Atlanta twice. And last year, you remember, Atlanta kicked their ass in the second half of the season when we thought very little to nothing about Atlanta. and New Orleans was still rolling. It was actually won Drew's first games back, I believe, if it wasn't his first. So Atlanta is like hate week. It's like college football rivalry.

It goes out the window. It really is like a really underrated nasty rivalry. So talk about bulletin board material. They just say whatever the fuck they want to each other down there leading up to that game. So Drew Brees, hopefully he's good for the Saints. But if he's not, we'll see how creative Sean Payton is. What happened out there, Dad.

What happened out there, Dada? What happened, Waylon, is that, and I'm not having a bad day just yet, but the Browns. I had them, I bought the Half Point, and I had them at three, and obviously they're up three, nursing the clock in four-minute mode. I'm thinking to myself, well, this is a loss. I turn it off my side TV. I noticed that on Red Zone, something happened where maybe I should take a look, and I see Nick Chubb running in the open field.

Nobody behind him. He's headed into score. But unlike the other Georgia Bulldog from a few weeks ago, if you remember, Todd Gurley made the news for not doing this. Nick Chubb decides to be a good dude and run out of bounds. So that is why I and many people

lost that bet, taking Cleveland, giving three or three and a half points. For me, it was a push. Could have been worse. So what's it like being a ghost? Ghost are dead. I'm very much alive.

A hollow man. You got a hollow man? Yeah, everybody's favorite freaking coach for some reason. Matt Rule. 11 minutes, 23 seconds to go fourth quarter. Teddy Bridgewater scores on a three-yard touchdown run to make it 3223.

And of course, because of this mind-numbing analytic, the dummy goes for two and they don't get it, remain down nine and Tampa rolls the rest of the way, as discussed. Maybe it goes that way regardless, but if I'm a Carolina Panther, I feel better in my head pictures about being down 3224, one score with 11 and a half to go in the fourth quarter, then I do two scores, thinking about what computer nerd made it so that I'm, and now have to get a couple of stops and score twice more. We had a situation like that in the Eagles game as well. Yeah, so it was one of those days

for people who don't just... Do you mean the Giants game? Yeah, the Giants game. Whatever game you wanted to be, it was... Actually, it was a very watchable game if you weren't rooting for the Eagles. Good quarterback play, I thought.

Go Blue. Danny Dimes. Yeah. I mean, and Carson, wasn't awful today. So that was, you know, took care of the football.

I actually had some nice throws, but I'm not going to get you started. My Hollow Man, Chase Young, penalty that sets up the epic game-winning kick from Matt Prater.

Franchise record, 60-something yards, 61 yards or something like that. And about at midfield or whatever it was or at you know their own 45 the lions are driving time is is uh is running down and a field goal wins the game chase young three four steps totally unnecessarily you know at the very least bumps uh matt stafford you knew they were going to call it you know and ikeep to leave who did a really good job and i talked about that earlier he he didn't want to bury chase young so he's

like yeah that wasn't too bad I could see them not calling that it was definitely a late hit and that set up the game winner so that had to be really rough and he's probably not feeling real good about himself and he's not going to feel good for the next six days that's the type of mistake that really sucks and I feel bad for de lineman but the only way to get that taste out of your mouth is play again and it blows I used to be afraid of that could happen to anybody but it was definitely late so that sucked hollow man chase young also San Francisco receiver Richie James

He got underthrown badly by Bethard He had He had beat somebody And there was separation And this was like San Francisco's last gasp To get back in the game And Bethard airs it out On one of these late possessions

And to Richie James's credit He's out in front Bethard 10 yards short I mean, it really was bad. But instead of running back to the huddle, he's flailing his arms in the air like, fuck, you under threw me,

you're the fifth string quarterback and you under threw me. Jesus Christ, like, you know, guess what happened to Richie James a couple of plays later? Muff the punt, right? Muff the punt. And at that point,

New Orleans gets the ball and puts it well out of reach. So, you know, that's a little like lesson for me like it's hard not to do it sometimes to get frustrated but i used to try not to show anybody up you know what i mean and maybe he was just frustrated because he had a great route but it just comes back around because you could be the guy the next play let's go frank go war award okay uh the aforementioned famous james weston balling out dude i i you say you didn't

see a whole lot i saw six of ten for 63 yards through two quarters of play. The ultimate game manager leads New Orleans to a big win, tongue somewhat in cheek. I'm with you. Frankly, I'm not quite sure of the award itself. I think it's someone

bawling out in obscurity. No, a lot of people watching that game. So, you know, I would, I would grade at a questionable submission in both. Like, you know, the other day when we were supposed to name a band with pastas and I said the parm animals

thinking, you know, Italian food, Parmesan cheese, like whatever. Yeah, like you picking James Winston here doesn't quite work because a lot of people watching that game is too kind of relatively big markets in a 4 o'clock spot. A 4 o'clock spot which had more games, I believe, than the 1 o'clock spot.

I still think a lot of people are watching that game. Also, James Winston objectively did look shaky as fuck. that number two for the New Orleans Saints the quarterback reminds me Aaron Brooks I'm rooting for him man I'm not trying to poo-poo him I'm just saying he's got to be better than that for them to win sustainably and I really hope he

I hope he ends up with the job once Drew's done because I would think it would be an awesome success story hey I got a train running right through my house here up three seconds I wonder if you'll be able to hear it on the old podcast possible we can't We do hear that. That's a train in the background. It's not even here yet.

I'll go Marquez Valdez Scantling. MVS is what the kids are calling him. And he had a good game. Okay. And they barely beat the fucking Jaguar. So I'm pretty sure Aaron Rogers is thankful that he bowled out. That's all I'll say about that. I had no interest in that football game.

4 for 149. Thank you for teaching me how to award the Frank Gore Memorial. I'll do better moving forward. That train is so loud. You're welcome. It's shaking my house. Let's go game ball. You got one?

Oh, sure do. Leonard Floyd of the Los Angeles Rams. Three sacks, one fumble recovery, five quarterback hits on Russell Wilson, who only completed 59% of his passes. Either two picks was never comfortable. Shouts are out to Leonard Floyd. Lloyd with an honorable mention to Dan Dimes, who we talked about, more passing and rushing yards.

Then your boy Wentz, who had Miles Sanders, Alshan Jeffrey, Jalen Rager. He had Alshan Jeffrey, huh? Yeah, one target. He was locked and loaded. Golly. I'll go Steve Kime, okay? you know the obvious reaction that a lot of people have after any cardinals win in which new hopkins plays a big role is to point out that and listen i've reserved the righteous indignation

like as somebody who never cared about the cardinals until like now i'm not going to throw a shit fit every week about oh my god i can't believe he wrecked the texans and gave them new Hopkins, it's unbelievable. Yeah, you said it last week. This week, it's worth saying. He turned David Johnson and Josh Rosen into Kyler and Nuke. And now he has to probably turn himself in for like some sort of grand theft. Because my man absolutely fleeced Bill O'Brien. He has quietly done a terrific job there. And his first round pick hadn't even been on the field a lot, right? Isaiah Simmons. So to do everything that he's done

and be a year ahead of schedule or wherever however you would have put the Cardinals on schedule they're a year ahead of it. And their first round pick, he doesn't even have to contribute yet. And he might down the line. One of the biggest plays of the season, though, the kid made, which was picking Russell Wilson late in that first football game they played.

And they're going to play this week in a battle to decide who's the favorite, really, in the NFC West, which a lot of people are dubbing the best division and I would say it's still the AFC North, but if they can get this win this weekend, they are like contender type team, I think now.

Hey, and a couple more names for your Steve Kahn. Kenyon Drake came over from Miami yards today and he drafted Buda Baker who was just a really good football player. Absolutely, the Drake thing was I think people were kind of cooling on Drake this year. They liked the other kid a little bit more. But last year especially,

yeah, he looked awesome. So he'll help them down the line, and Buda Baker is unbelievable. You're absolutely right. Steve Kahn, game ball. All right, that should do it. We'll be back Wednesday. We're going to rerun the Matthew McConaughey.

So if you guys missed Matthew McConaughey because of presidential election, which was being decided, which is, of course, since been decided. You might want to check out Matthew McConaughey, Wednesday. I want to apologize for the train that ran behind my house. Not much I can do about that.

No, it's not going anywhere. Make. Catch you later this week, Bubb. Take care.