Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Week 11 Reactions! Burrow-less Bengals, Staley's Future in LA & the Broncos Are Rolling!

Episode Date: November 20, 2023

NFL Week 11 Reactions! Chris Long, Kyle Long and Nate 'Dr. Fax' Collins react to each game in the week 11 NFL slate and talk the biggest storylines across the league. The Bengals might be out of the playoff race this year after the injury to Joe Burrow, Brandon Staley's job in jeopardy, the Broncos surging and we preview the Eagles vs Chiefs Monday Night Football battle! (2:11) - Broncos and Russell Wilson Stampede Vikings and Josh Dobbs (10:45) - America's Teams presented by Miller Lite: Dallas Cowboys, Philip Rivers, Houston Texans and Virginia Cavaliers (23:00) - Baltimore Ravens vs Cincinnati Bengals: Bengals Lose Burrow (30:55) - Green Bay Packers vs LA Chargers: Brandon Staley's Future in LA? (41:35) - Miami Dolphins vs Las Vegas Raiders (43:45) - New York Giants vs Washington Commanders: Ron Rivera and Sam Howell Long for Washington? (52:05) - Buffalo Bills vs New York Jets (1:02:08) - Cleveland Browns vs Pittsburgh Steelers (1:14:04) - Houston Texans vs Arizona Cardinals (1:23:35) - Detroit Lions vs Chicago Bears (1:33:13) - San Francisco 49ers vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1:35:45) - Jacksonville Jaguars vs Tennessee Titans (1:38:20) - Dallas Cowboys vs Carolina Panthers (1:43:00) - Seattle Seahawks vs LA Rams (1:50:35) - Eagles vs Chiefs Monday Night Football Preview Delivered by Little Caesars (1:57:40) - Miller Lite Moments Want to win a chance to watch the NFL Conference Championships with Chris Long and the Green Light crew in Studio J? Enter below: MILLERLITE.COM/GREENLIGHTSWEEPS This podcast is brought to you by Cash App. With multiple tools for saving, spending, and sending, Cash App is the easy way to stay in control of your money. Cash App is a financial platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's bank partner(s). Cash App's Football Dreams Giveaway: NO PURCHASE NECESSARY TO ENTER OR WIN. Open to US residents, 21 and up. Ends 11/9/23. For complete rules, visit cash/app/exclusives/footballdreams2023 Use the GameTime app for all your ticketing needs. Create an account and use code GREENLIGHT for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download the GameTime app today last minute tickets lowest price guaranteed. Make sure to check out Fax and the King every Wednesday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@FaxAndTheKing Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Send any Talent Search submissions to: [e-mail] Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b   Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42   Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1   Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

They've had five one score losses. Kansas City stiff arm the fuck out of you. The one year you should probably beat them because they're starting a bunch of guys outside that people aren't even starting on their fantasy teams. And that's the team. Taylor Swift game, though. Yeah.

But that's the game you have to win. You can't even win that one. And I wondered, Kyle, allowed, if they built this thing on a burial ground, they have such bad luck. It's true. But it was the same thing in San Diego with Rivers.

In 2019, I found this stat. Rivers since 2015 over that span. They lost 31 games by one score. This is who they are as an organization. It's predated Staley. Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. NFL Week 11 reactions. The Broncos are riding.

Chris won a big, big, big bet on it late last night. You're going to hear about it. We're also going to talk a lot of storylines around the NFL this week. The Bengals lose Joe Burrow, their playoff hopes, probably down the drain. The Chargers lose yet another close one to the Packers. Is it time to call it quits on the Brandon Staley regime? You have one of the best rosters in the league, but you're still sitting around 500. We also talk about Washington and their decision with Ron Rivera.

Is it time to move on from him? And what to do with Sam Howell? Do you think about drafting another quarterback? Is he your franchise cornerstone at that position? We get into those storylines. We also get into every game of the slate. We talk the upsets. We talk the surprise games.

We give out our Miller Light moments. And we preview Eagles Chiefs. Stick around for the expert analysis there where you might want to lean a bet on. And we'll catch you Wednesday. Happy Thanksgiving. you're going to want to hear this Wednesday episode. We'll have a great guest for you. We'll be around Friday too.

As you're hanging out with family, make sure you throw out on the Greenlight podcast. Welcome. Week 11. Welcome, welcome. Kyle's got a fucking highlighter in his mouth. I'm just like face towards enemy with just note football season.

Yeah, yeah, it's football season. Dominate those notes. Hey, guys, we do layup line on this podcast on our other podcasts. I know a lot of y'all probably only listen to this one. But other times we play a song in the beginning of the, the show to get everybody hyped up.

And with what happened last night on Sunday night football, I figured we'd do something for Cowboy read. Hit it, Cowboy. I haven't heard it. Rocky Mountain High. I've seen it rain fire in the sky. Look how high I am. Bronco's money line.

Coach of the year over Todd Bulls. We're letless believe And we are Rocky Mountain High We're letless believe Sorry, I know y'all are already complaining about the sound There's something in this cowboy coffee On these victory morning You can turn it off

I love it You know what's funny about that What? When the music goes on You don't have to scream into the mic I know and I just screamed I couldn't get excited I couldn't help it

I couldn't help it because I'm so fucking excited Last night was so fun Reed. It was just us. Everybody else had gone home. Me, Nolan Reed. And it was crazy because I had Broncos money line. I sprinkled a little bit

on Broncos minus two. The end of that game. I hate gambling now. When they scored that touchdown, Cowboy Reed and I were running around like fucking crazy people. One of them's a lifelong Broncos fan. One of them just had the Broncos money

line. And when I tell you, he leapt into my arms and did the leg thing. I knew I was going to do it when I did it. He did the leg thing. You clamped? We didn't have any footage of it. Hip drop?

No, he didn't hip drop me. He didn't Logan Wilson me. But he kind of did the like, I just came home from Afghanistan and I'm seeing my family thing. You know, where. A long trip. Reed was so excited. He'd have anybody to hug.

He just hug the guy who had money line. Reed gets very excited for Broncos wins. I got too stoked. Bro. country relentless belief let's ride dude i just want to say this funniest thing about that game is about if there were a hundred people in the country rooting for the broncos 71 of them had broncos minus two and a half and the funniest thing was just how terrible that two point play was and it was they just moved right on in the broadcast they were like and let's show you didn't talk about it

at all scoring a touchdown again everybody at home's like what the fuck i just stayed up till midnight to see a dive pitch on the two-point conversion. But, I mean, even if you were looking for, like, sexy football, the way that the Broncos got down there, too, was awesome. It was just like, dump it off, dump it off, dump it off. And eventually one of those buss for 12, 15 yards, and you're in position. I mean, it's not sexy, but that's how you win football games. You play great defense.

You're aggressive. That's a perfect Sunday night game. And you're not turning the football over when it matters. And Russell did a great job. Cortland Sutton, awesome. Look at this big guy. Big guy catching the ball. My dog, I have a giant.

German Shepherd. He should only watch Cortland Sutton. You said that your son's only watch Matt Milano. You're going to teach him football. My German Shepherd, when I'm like, when you attack the ball, you've got to attack it like this. Yeah, exactly. He does attack the ball. And Russell just throws it up like a frisbee, and he's just out there again. You taught Bear any new tricks,

or is he just still running up? He's about to learn how to two-hand a motherfucker at the high point. Can he run up a tree? He does run up trees. He bounces off trees. Okay. I'm serious. Josh Dobbs. Josh Dobbs, speaking of things that can run up trees. He said, hmm, like my dog can't run up a tree. Oh. Josh Dobbs.

Could run up a tree. Josh Dobbs is like a cat, man. He has nine lives, bro. He is. It's the same thing as the Atlanta game. We're in the video of the game. He's doing like a full pirouette, drops the ball. They got a long return.

He comes out, first series, some fucked up play. Bro. Fumble. He gets drilled by Kareem Jackson early in the game. Kareem Jackson not rehabilitated at all. Like they're like, you're like. Bro, I'm convinced hitting people like that is, is a drug.

It's a drug because we have so many repeat offenders, and that video of him doing it, yes, the quarterback is now a runner in that situation, so it's a little different. And I guess that's why they didn't flag it. They just spent it, but,

just suspended Denzel Perryman for three games. They're reviewing it now. It's under review. Oh, it's under review. It's under review now. Okay. And he leading,

but he was out. He leaded what is out. But I just want to say this. Josh Jobs, he did not lose this game. he put them in position to win. He must see TV. You know, he is.

Like, whether it's avoiding a sack down in the red zone, that little dump pass in the corner. So, like, if you're on the other side, I'm just not going to bet against Josh Jobs anymore. Can't. And, I mean, if you're on the other side of that, the backbreaking scrambles, the third and 20s, the, he just makes magic.

And before the game, I think it was Rodney Harrison was saying, like, and I kind of laughed it off because it seemed like an awkward thing to say like right before Jack Collinsworth went to break, but he was like, that guy's huge. His legs are huge. And Jack was like, all right, let's go to break.

But like, it's stuck in my head the whole game was like, this guy's a fucking, he's a beast. Like, you watch Josh Jobs. You don't think athlete, but he's the size of a lot of these edge rush. They have to make rockets actually bigger in Houston because that's the only reason he couldn't be an astronaut. He said, I tried to be an astronaut. They said the things are too small.

They're too small. Make them bigger. His brain's bigger, his body, his legs. Get him in the space force. We'll get up there. Anyways, Josh Jobs the Beast. We love watching him. The Broncos, they got a little magic to him, man.

They're a confident team. That's a, Kyle, you know this. Nate, you know this. When a team has confidence, it's like they're, you know, it's like they're better than they actually are. And it's not like they've actually won these last two games. They have. These other teams have given them the game, you know, in certain scenarios.

I think Minnesota fumbled in plus territory last night late, gave them the ball back. It would have been a lot for them to go down, you know, what they would have been down at that stage of the game. Buffalo gave them the game in a lot of situation. But they're taking these games. When they're given the gifts, they accept the gifts, and they go win the game.

And they have an identity now. And when they lost 70 to 20 to Miami, did not have an identity. When Sam Hal threw for a million yards on them at mile high, did not have an identity. I'm not saying they're going to make noise, but they are a tough out when you're a team with playoff aspirations playing them late in the season.

And I've got to tip my cap to Sean Peyton and Vince Joseph for improving a great deal as this year's going on. And I want to say... It's a locker room too. It's a different locker room from the 70-d-th and game. I mean, Rie can speak on this, the key pieces, the expensive pieces that are out the door now and the guys who are stepping up and playing young guys.

We invested in the young defensive side of the ball. Last night, Jonathan Cooper, Nick Benito. they were, you know, two of the three edge rushers that played about the whole game, Baron Browning and they all made big plays. We shouted out Sean Payton. The fact that last night he said, they were like, what did you like about last night? You guys got the win. And he was like our first half, like, I'm not even going to watch the tape.

It was so bad. It was terrible. Finally in the third quarter, like some things that I saw positively that we could watch. But we were gifted those turnovers and we didn't, you know, shoot ourselves on the foot. But our run game, we like let them run right through us. And the difference in that. Minnesota Randolph. The difference in that, then like, what would Nathaniel of Hackett have said last year after a four-game

win streak? Oh, I don't even know. I don't even know. He would have made some movie reference and said, I'm friends with Aaron Roberts. It would have been goofy. It would have been goofy. But like, now you've got a real big league ball coach. You're leaning into your identity.

You can feel it. They're the Steelers West. You can feel that. That's very true. I mean, like, they're the Steelers West with a better offense. And not as good a defense up front. Russell's time machine parked right outside the stadium. Yeah, exactly.

You know, next to his O-Zemphic bottle. He's not on his Zemphic. He just did a little bit more cardio. What is that? Ozimic makes he skinny. Oh, it does? People are. No, he looks good.

It's what all these freak shows are doing. Buffalo, they... He can move like he used to. Yeah, Buffalo, they made the point that he looks a lot leaner. And I think that that's played out with the way he's been able to maneuver the pocket. Okay, so America's teams, number one, I'm going to go with the Broncos. The primetime Broncos, who keep winning me money in prime time. They bookended my week.

With big dubs, I appreciate the Broncos. This one's for Sean. This one's for Sean in tears after the game like that Michigan coach. All right. Kelly Bronze, the turkeys, the turkey company here locally that Nate has been employed by for the last few years where he executes turkeys. Well, I mean, you know, they got to get on the table somehow, and Nate's the guy that's got to do the dirty work.

Are you doing that this year? So it's over with. And actually this year, I got compensated to train people in my absence. So you're training people to kill the turkeys. Well, more the back end of it, the waxing and the de-feathering of the turkey. So these samurai's your training, you're their sensei. Yeah, you're the sense. This year I was.

Yeah. That's great. So I want to shout out Kelly Brons. And everybody who's doing the dirty work to put the turkeys on table this year. We all love turkey, but we don't want to do the dirty work. Shout out to Judd. Kellybrons.com promo code. Damn,

he's got a whole. I'm trying to give him a little American scenes here. You know he's got a promo code. He's got promo code just tucked away. Also, Best Buy workers. I know Black Friday's coming up Friday. You guys are all going to get trampled.

Is that crazy? Is it still crazy Black Friday? Is that still crazy like that now? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think so. I think so. Black Friday would be crazy now because people are just unhinged now. The average, John Kupovic is.

unhinged. Ourselves included. No, everybody's crazy. But I thought Amazon and like, you could just- I don't go outside in a full moon. That's what I'm saying. I thought you could just order everything right to your door, no? I like going outside with it's a full moon. You're a freak show.

What do you mean, bro? Like, I was in the field the end of the night looking at the stars. Like cow shit and go run around in the fucking. I was out in the field at midnight Saturday night. All right. Moon wasn't full. So you get ticks. Waxing gibbis.

No, you don't. Philip Rivers family is a American's team. It's a man. He just had a, his 10th kid. So he can officially field a football team. He can officially be the quarterback. All time QB boys.

All time QB. His wife can be the offensive coordinator. And I looked it up when I said cars at seat 11 people. I didn't think they existed. But shout out to the Kia Carnival. What a fitting name too.

It's a fucking three ring circus in this motherfucker. The only thing that sucks about Key you can still certain ones with an iPhone charger. There's like, what? There's kids called the Kia Boys that they like just break in and they still Kia's and they joyride and like the process to do it is very, very simple. Well, don't do that to the Rivers family.

I hope not. Bill Rivers has the club. He'll throw a rock through the window. All right. So, so, and you might get beat up by all the kids. Yeah, nine kids jump by a family. That would be great, yo. You're fucked.

All right. The next one, and I'm sorry about. this Reid, App State. Oh. What did they do? They beat you. So JMU this week. It's like 40 miles away.

It's an hour and four minutes from my house. Saturday morning, game day's there for the third time, mind you. Me, a lowly, Virginia fan. We've never seen game day. They broke the attendance record. But I got to tell you, I wanted to come out there, see Stanford Steve.

Reed went down there, watched game day. He was back in the back. Steve hooked him up. And like the FOMO for me in general was crazy because my young son Luke had a soccer game. Football game. Yeah, soccer, the football game.

And he's undefeated in his mind. They don't even keep score. And I wanted to make sure I was at the last game. And I had to miss the whole thing. And I'm just thinking about existentially being a Virginia alum, going through what we've gone through on the field. You know, the losses, tech week. We'll talk about that in a second.

But this little school, JMU, they just, they're getting all the attention. They're having all the fun. People are tweeting, No, Harrison Burke's the best place ever. Fuck that. I hope you lose the game. I'm not one of these people.

I'm not going to pretend to be one of these people that's happy for other people. Okay? It's like, do you go win them all at the end of the game. Go win them all. No, I don't want you to win them all. I want you to lose them all. And I want you to lose them all in that scenario. Stay healthy.

See you in the playoffs. No, fuck you. No, lose them all. See you next year. In division. Running traffic. But yeah, no, like App State, just a great program. I don't know anything about their team,

but they took care of business. Our, J.MU and Apsaid, it's awesome that we're able to play each other now because it's a awesome rivalry. We hadn't played in it. We played last year, obviously, when we moved up, but we hadn't played in a couple years. And the last four games this year, one by three, 2022, JMEU won by four, 2008, JMEU won by three, 2007 App State one by one. It was a great game. See, good time. It ended the right way. The big winner of this game, though, at CAA just watching and being like,

100%. You guys don't, don't talk about being in the final four. There was a lot of rants. There was a lot of rants this week. We're not named names. No, no. But there's hell of rants about these JMU do.

Because I've heard Mead talk about it all year. I did an America's team, which week did we do America's team? JMU was 2 and 0. They're not allowed to play in the national championship. Yeah. Hey, I just got something in the YouTube comments. Can we get a live stream of facts demonstrating how to jump a key?

That would be hilarious. We should put a YouTube page out where you demo how to actually lift the team. No, I don't know how to do it. Okay, all right, good. The way you were talking about it, Virginia Cavaliers America's team, it is Hokies Week. That's our rival in state. I got the hat on. And this is the time of the year where I scream at a bunch of amateur athletes for not doing what I never could do myself, which is beat tech.

I'm o' and four lifetime. When I graduated, well, I didn't graduate, but when I, when I matriculated to the NFL, see, I don't need to agree. I got words like that. When I matriculated to the NFL, I would have these dreams for the longest time that I would wake up for the tech game, like in the locker room and I couldn't get my pads on. You know, that kind of like slow punch thing. You know that I saw Cincinnati Bengals fan in the parking lot last week punch a guy. He looked like he was punching in his dreams. It's the same thing with, it's the same thing with trying to get your pads on in a dream. to play a rival that you've never beaten. And eventually... You never remember your cleats? Yeah, I just couldn't get it on. You can hear kickoff, but you're locked out? Oh, I'm in the locker room.

I go out. Why do we have the same bad dream? I'm telling you. Well, it's stopped for me at some point. And it's not because we beat Tech. It's just because I got so... When we stopped playing. I just stopped caring for a while.

But then we beat Tech with Bryce Perkins. And now I'm back in the Tech Week. So Virginia, go take care of business. Those guys got to win against Duke. Let's go Wahoos. I took the boys the game. We sat up in the nosebleeds. because we're averaging about 25K in attendance.

So we got a whole section to ourselves. We sit on the sunny side of the upper bowl and enjoy the whole thing this weekend. We'll be there again. Probably not in the upper bowl. But go-hoo's, beat the Hokies. Those are my America's teams. Those are awesome.

I do enjoy those. It was a fun experience listening to that. I did love the- How many times are you going to say something you don't mean? No, the Kia Carnival made me laugh really hard. Really hard. Oh, Kia Carnival. The fact that...

The Kia Carnival. I mean, what a better name. for a fucking car that can house a village. Sigfried, Roy, five tigers. A traveling village. Bucket some chick who put her legs beyond her head and spin around on the ceiling. You can fit them all in there.

Toyota Circus is up next. So number one America's team for me, it's the Dallas Cowboys. Not only do we see something that is a tales all the time, two old friends that had a falling out that had a coming back together. Jimmy Johnson, the two J.Js, Jimmy Johnson, Jerry Jones. They were in the booth for an awkwardly long time.

J.J. I don't know if you guys saw that. They were face to face like, it was not, it was the opposite of speed dating. It was like slow dating. They were just standing there, planning something in the future, which was Jimmy Johnson's Ring of Honor. And that'll be in December at some point. But congrats to Jimmy Johnson. Yeah, he's the best.

The Cowboys look awesome. And, you know, the Cowboys game to me, it was like, I'm going to say this again, but it's a car crash game. But the car ran into a truck and you don't want to look. It's so ugly. That was the Dallas game. Number two. The San Francisco 49ers, dominant again, Brock Purdy, massively efficient.

We're going to talk about that game. But Debo back, Trent back. This team is looking like the team that we were worried about early in the season. Hufanga, the news came out this morning, ACL, that's going to be tough. He's a real football player. He's a dog for that defense. But I expect them to continue to thrive on offense. Number three, the Houston Texans, massive win in a game that, you know,

People like you and me were like, hey, I can see Kyler going down there and handling business. But CJ Stroud finds a way to do it again. The Texans, Singletary. I love their group, and I'm going to talk about their offensive coordinator later on at length. He was in Washington in 2013. I didn't know that. In San Francisco. Sneaky.

I didn't realize that. I just thought he was a defensive assistant. He's going to be in that movie with all those guys. He's been around brilliance, and you can see it. I mean, the way they spread the ball out, like their ability to run and pass. We all hear about C.J. Straub, but, you know, they're a fun team to a lot. I don't want to talk too much about Texas. Yeah.

Number three, Texans. Number four, Oregon. They're awesome. It's Civil War Week and Eugene hosting the Beavers. And unfortunately, for fans of this rivalry, this is the last time we're going to see these two teams together in conference, playing against each other as rivals. But they are working on having this thing happen at a conference. So long distance relationship there.

It's kind of like when the civil... Short distance, long distance. It's kind of like when the Civil War ended for America, they were like, we'll do this again in about a couple hundred years. I keep thinking that Oregon's moving to the Midwest. One of these elections happens. Yeah, you're right. You know, that's how they're going to work it back into the schedule.

And I keep feeling like Oregon's just going to move their university to like a random town in the Midwest because they're in the big town. No question. So I'm like, it's going to be a long distance game. But what a great rivalry, man. It sucks that all these are going by the way. I love it. So Mike Remmers, I'll be calling you probably after this and we can make a bet.

Number five, the Chicago Bears. The Chicago Bears, man. And once again, if you are a fan. at all of Chicago sports. If you're a fan at all of Justin Fields, Ohio State, you want Justin Fields to prove you right. He went out there and showed people, I'm the guy for the future.

I'm the guy you can build around. We saw the defense stepping up, making some plays. That Detroit Lions team at home is no fucking joke. Anywhere on the road at home. So to go in there and put yourself in a chance, a position to win the football game handily, and then blow it. It's the best because it shows us

that you guys are good enough to win games and the reason is the coaching that we're not losing. Yeah, probably so. And the music just started again. This is not music. That's the goodbye music for me. What is that? By the way, we got to start firing the air.

Are we in agreement here on the Bears, though? Yeah, it's a fun. Fields is the guy. We're going to get into it. But yeah, I mean, like, I told you, Kyle, I've prided myself in keeping one foot on this bandwagon and not completely getting off it. So I'm all about.

what I saw yesterday. We do need to start doing the Hunger Games sound, do do, do, which we do do for when teams are effectively eliminated and not just mathematically eliminated, but teams that were just like, hey, it's over. Like I almost want to blow the whistle for the chargers, but we'll get getting into that in a little bit. If you look at the playoff chances, all right, the Panthers, we can blow that Hunger Games. Blow the whistle, reset the breaker. There's a lot of teams who still have a reset the breaker. A lot of teams in the NFC still have a chance that you wouldn't expect would still have a chance to you look at the Packers. I think they have a 24% chance.

Don't let Jordan Love get hot. Don't let them get hot. So anyways, we want to talk about one team that may be out of it. And this is the last week's story, but it's still relevant is the Bengals, losing Joe Burrow. Listen, the schedule's brutal. So I don't know that they're gonna have a shot to stay in this thing. I don't wanna count this backup quarterback out.

But Cleveland is so much more well built to go on a run with a backup quarterback. It's not even close. So I worry about the Bengals. And I worry about in general these quarterbacks, I said this last week on like Thursday when the Deshawn news came out. These modern play extending quarterbacks,

we keep seeing graphics of Andrew Luck and Joe Burrow, how many sacks they took over a 40-game span or a 50-game span. Deshawn Watson got hurt last week. One guy you're not seeing on graphics, he took 174 sacks the first four years of his career, I think it was. And when you compare that to Joe or Andrew Luck, that's even worse.

So I think sometimes we look at some of these injuries as isolated incidents, but it's the attrition of being these guys. And I also think, like, yeah, there were some guys in the 90s. that ran the ball. Steve Young, McNair, pale end of the 90s, Culpepper at times.

There were guys that ran the ball. But this is a new era where we're throwing the ball 40 times a game. O-line plays getting worse. And these guys are asked to do a lot. And Josh Allen's a guy that, yeah, he's super human, but he has to do a tongue-in-the-run game. You worry about now projecting these guys into their 30s because of these injuries and the attrition of being a mobile guy

And there's two guys we're going to talk about today, Murray and Fields, who are auditioning not just for their teams, but for 31 other teams. And part of the thought process might be, do we want to commit to guys like this that maybe in five years the bottom falls out? Maybe in three years the bottom falls out. So it's just an interesting conversation because we're starting to see a lot of quarterbacks getting hurt. And it's an NFL problem because if you look at Sundays and they made it a pillow fight out there, right? They protect these guys a great deal. but you're still having these injuries and it's hurting the bottom line for the NFL

because a lot of these games are kind of unwatchable because we are dipping into the bag. We got Tim Boyle playing. We got Zach Wilson playing. We have a ton of backups playing DeVito, the whole thing. So as for the investigation into when Joe Burrow heard his wrist, and Kyle, we haven't talked about this, but last week it's like midnight

and the Burrow news comes out that he gets off the bus with a brace on. And so I'm digging in the film, and it doesn't take long to find the second play. Enhance, enhance, enhance. He gets crushed between Orlando Brown and, you know, like the rush, and he's coming off the field grabbing his wrist. And so I kind of pointed that out. And nobody's really talked about this.

And I think what that shows is that the NFL is not going to do anything about it. They're not going to punish these guys for withholding information on injuries. because it happens all the time, I think, in the NFL, but when it's a franchise quarterback, it could be a really big deal. And they don't want to deal with that because it hurts the product. The product is gambling. Like if you want to get mad at the Bengals about what they did, who are you, who's who was wronged in that?

Not the Ravens, not the Bengals. The betters were wrong. The better. If you're the NFL and you embrace gambling, you have to enforce these policies where people will lose money and go crazy. Yeah, but what is embracing gambling doesn't necessarily, mean it's like gospel to us as an NFL. So like if I'm the NFL, if I'm the Bengals, I'm like Fuck those gambling guys. Yeah, no, but if you're the NFL is a problem

There's a lot of people that like putting 20 bucks down is like it's a big deal like you know on a I'm not I'm not saying that's not a big deal. I know I'm not saying that that's not what you're saying But the NFL shit is their stance and I would say a cover your ass stance would be that's not our deal Yeah, but the NFL but it is your deal now because you have accepted gambling as a a big stream of revenue. So I think, like, what I could gauge by the lack of talking about what I talked about last week, because it's obvious to me, he got hurt in the Houston game. People can say it was like, it was the clowny hit. But the guys that got killed were the gamblers. And, you know, I think the media got like a memo where they're like, we're not talking about

this. And I didn't get, I can tell you, I haven't heard one person talk about the Houston game other me. Well, Camus in our, in the chat just said that Schepter shouted you out on McAfee for having that. Was it what day? Today. Oh, nice. Thank you, Adam. Well, so we're talking about it a little bit, but the NFL needs to be concerned about this stuff. They really do. So anyways, um, that was the burrow thing. Let's move on to Sunday. I had an option. So to your point, I had an option to talk about that or the hip drop tackle. So me and Brock Verene got to do a little demo of the hip drop tackle. And what was the takeaway from Brock Verne? Brock Verne. Brock Verne says, a dirty play. That's what most guys in the second. You're trying to make a play. You know,

and me standing next to Barack Berean in studio, he's like 511 buck 85. I'm 6.6.290. And it's like this is, this is the relationship between some of these dbs and some of these past catchers. And you're asking them to what do you want them to do exactly? Well, it's like the it's like the Andrews play, which at first I'm like, ugh. But it's the same thing as Minka Fitzpatrick when he went through Chubbs outside. What do you want? He's got a plan to get him down. I'm like, okay, yeah, it does look intentional and all that stuff, but then you think about it and you think about the speed of the game,

you think about everything that's happening, and then I went and talked to people in the back end about Minka, and they were like, not dirty at all, guys that have had to make these plays all the time. When you hear guys in second level talk about the Logan Wilson play or the hip drop tackle, Mark Andrews is at the sticks in the red zone.

Like this is, you've got to defend every inch. Gotta have it. He's trying to pull him back, you know, which is where I think his weight drops on site rather than jumping on his back and carrying him over the line. And me, I wasn't a great tackler. That was the weakness of my game. If I was a better tackler, I'd have 100 sacks, okay?

I miss so many sacks. I miss so many tackles. And oftentimes, like in my head as a defender, I'd be running down the line to make a play on the back side. And I would always choose the back shoulder and try to pull the guy back. Because in your head, as a defender, you're constantly thinking about, like,

I don't want to push him forward. You don't want to go for a ride going forward. And so I think like that in my little experience as a tackler tells me a lot about sometimes the way these second level guys are thinking we got to drop him right here. And the only way to do that sometimes is to drop your weight and wrap him up on the back side of him in certain scenarios. So it's tough. Yeah. It's an awkward tackle. It's awkward.

It's awkward. But yeah, I don't know. Football is just a physical sport. And regardless if you stop, hip drop tackles or a certain different. tackles, every time you adjust something, there's going to be a new issue and a new injury or something to happen where we're just right back to square one. And you can't take out every type of tackle or every variation of hitting and like the hitting range. It's all going to. It was high, now it's low. It's going to create new injuries

and new things that we're not used to seeing. We're like we want to stop seeing guys getting knocked out and stiff on the field. So they lowered the like no hitting above the shoulders and all this. And these are the some of the things are we're going to unfortunately probably see more is because like the the hitting zones are lower and guys have to change up their their style. And it's dangerous for tacklers because when you go low and you go head down to try to take some his knees out, a knee to the head. Yep. That sort of thing. So anyways, just thought we'd mention that because it is a big deal, but I want to get into Sunday. And I think the biggest story from Sunday,

even with all the big wins and that stuff, is the story of a team that lost and it's the Chargers. I feel like, and I'll make my thesis statement pretty clear, I think they should blow it up. Now it's 1.30 p.m. on Monday, and I haven't heard anything yet. And I know that it's earlier on the West Coast, and now how time zones work.

But I'm starting to be concerned. They're just taking their wetsuits off, Chris. Yeah, they are. Yeah, they were out in there. They're like, let me fucking get some salt water. Yeah, exactly. Before I get this shit started. And that's the good thing about being a charges fan if you're from L.A.

is like, at least it's sunny out. But you got to blow this up. And in my opinion, you have to blow it up because Kyle, Nate, you know how this feels. You get a shot in the arm. You wake up Friday. Burroughs out of the deal. The Bengals might be out of the deal. Okay, Buffalo fired their coordinator.

There's blood in the water in the meat of the AFC wildcard race. And when you look at their schedule down the stretch, it is doable. But they go to Green Bay and this should be a jumping off point for them to go on a run and you can't even win this game. If you can't win this game,

I've seen enough. And, you know, like the Quentin Johnson thing at the end of the game, which is the drop by Quentin. He might end up being a great player. And I'm not big on comparing rookies to other rookies, but when you haven't gotten a lot out of him,

Addison, Flowers, guys you had opportunities to take. This conversation is about Brandon Staley, but it's also about the organization from top down. Spanos, the very reason I'm wondering if they're even going to fire him doesn't like spending money okay the GM telesco you know he can't escape this conversation either you know the jc jackson decision

that decision they're marred with a bunch of decisions like this and you know you remember that sound bite we want the chicago bulls which just sounds fucking cool but it's not cool because really what you think what you're talking about is i just want a bunch of tall guys i want scottie pip and michael jordan like this was this was after the uh the last dance and brandon staley's like let me be topical and hip. I'm going to talk about the Chicago Bulls. But he always is. Where the fuck is Steve Kerr? You know, where's BJ Armstrong? Give me a Luke Longley.

No, but that's another big guy. The point I'm making it. What the fuck, man? He's almost got our name. They drafted another, they drafted Wendington. And he's in Ozzy. You know, you're right. But the point I'm making it It's starting to sound better. Where are your little manbeater guys? You're right. Where's your little guys that you can, on third and short,

you know, hit him in the flat and that sort of thing. And I think like all this stuff sounds good, but there's no substance to us and we've seen four drives this year where they've come up short with the game on the line but it wasn't just them you know it wasn't just Quentin Johnson it was it was the Allen dropping the ends on the Echler fumble Keenan Allen not getting to the sticks on that stop route I mean and then turning around and you could just see him like fuck I was like a yard and a half away I could have got there easy I mean that's one of the best route runners catchers throwers in the game you those are supposed to be gimmies and when they're

not gimmies it becomes a pattern and then you're whatever their record is You know what else is a gimmie, Kyle? And this is where I knew they'd lose this game. Third and 20 backed up Jordan Love converting on a penalty on Asante Samuel Jr. Now here's where it's interesting. And I've talked about this like a month ago. Brandon Staley, after a game, he always does this.

Hey, we're really good at this. We're really good at third down. You know, he's talking about, hey, defending their third down on defense sequence of the game. When you look at the true conversion rate of the Chargers, which takes into account penalties and things like that, They're among the worst in the league, especially in third and long situations.

And so like that shows up in the game. And you know, you've seen this movie. The last 11 games, including the playoff collapse, Kyle, they've beaten four quarterbacks, Cousins, Baygent, Wilson, and Aiden O'Connell. Okay, they blew the big lead. They've had five one score losses. Kansas City stiff arm the fuck out of you.

The one year you should probably beat them because they're starting a bunch of guys outside that people aren't even starting on their fantasy teams. And that's the team. Taylor Swift game though. Yeah, but that's the game you have to win. You can't even win that one. And I wondered, Kyle, allowed if they built this thing on a burial ground, they have such bad luck. It's true. But it was the

same thing in San Diego with Rivers. In 2019, I found this stat. Rivers since 2015 over that span, they lost 31 games by one score. This is who they are as an organization. It's predated Staley. But if you're a Chargers fan and you're watching that press conference, you want to see that coach. I don't know what you want to see, but you don't want to see the coach get up there and blame the offense. And double down. It almost sounded like he forgot he was a head coach too.

You can afford it. And forgot that he made Jordan Love look like fucking Brett Farb out there for most of the day. And he's going to be the reason that Jordan Love just maybe sparks a playoff run in Green Bay. I mean, you can be, instead of you going on a run, maybe Green Bay goes on a run to your point, Kyle. You're supposed to have Superman a quarterback. Yeah, exactly. You've got Justin Herbert. And so don't forget, you're a head coach.

These close games are on you. Not every time, but over the span of a three-year period, this is who you are. And Kellyn Moore should get the chance to be an interim. But it feels like a sabotage. Maybe not intentionally. I'm not saying Brandon State is a bad guy. I got no problem with the guy. Okay.

He's obviously a good coach. That's how he became a head coach. But some guys aren't head coaches. And when it's time to cut a player or bench a quarterback, we're like, oh, it's part of the business. And I'm really hesitant to be like, hey, fire a coach, because he's got a livelihood to worry about. And he's got a family.

He's got people to move. And he turned his life upside down. But this is a production business. We're talking about the Chargers, not about State. You know what I mean? I'm talking about the Chargers in general, but I'm talking about Staling. No, no, what I'm saying is it's not a conversation about Fire Ham. He's a bad guy.

But, well, get him out. It's, dude, the Chargers have way too much talent. The Chargers have a 10 and a half sack guy at the edge. They had another guy who went out on a cart yesterday. You've got great pass. catchers like we talk about. We got the most dynamic threat at running back for passes and rushes. But we haven't seen him produce in the running game.

We haven't seen this team convert, like you said, in opportunities that should be no-brainers. The Eagles convert because they rely on the strength of their team. They run the tush push. They can get guys in space if they need to. They can challenge with A.J. Brown down the field. The Chargers, they're supposed to have an identity based on their roster, and they don't have an identity. And then look, to Chris's point, Chargers, the higher-ups, read the. the room. Look at what the Raiders are doing. Read the room right now. If you want a chance at going

on a run, you have to try a Hail Mary. Shot me arm, like you said. You have to see if the guy in your building is good enough to be the successor. You know, and, you know, maybe he's not, but defensively, you've been 26 and EPA in 2021. 27th in 2022, 27th and 23 thus far. And, you know, like, that's what you do. You're a defensive coach. And, you know, like confidence. He just keeps talking about confidence. He had the same amount of confidence when he did the tie thing against the Raiders. He had the same amount of confidence when against the Vikings this year, the Vikings bailed him out by not having a play at the goal line for the coverage that the charges were in after they said, fuck it, we're going to go backed up on fourth down and they get stuff. The very next

week, I said if they lose this game to the Raiders, he shouldn't get on the plane. You know what they did? The Raiders bailed them out. The Raiders bailed them out. That's how they won that game. They did the same exact thing. He was like, this is who we are. We're going to go backed up again. And then they escape by the skin of their teeth because of the Raiders. So like it's this, we are who we are. I am who I am.

Eventually you're opting into the definition of insanity. And I can't watch it anymore. And his press conference did not inspire confidence. No, dude. That's a guy who knows the clock's ticking and he's panicking. And it's the hardest job in the world being a head coach in the NFL. It's a really hard job other than quarterback. So I'm not trying to make it personal.

And the thing that sucks is I know he's a good guy. He's a good guy, you've told me. I've been coached by him. You know what I mean? He's a good guy. And I don't want people to lose sight of the fact that these are human beings. And to your point about families and moving people, it's like, this is the human element of football.

Football is fucking hard for more reasons than it hurts. You know what I mean? Yeah. And, you know, the Lions, somebody just commented in here, Chris charges defense is terrible. Did you watch the Lions game? Yeah, I bet a fucking section. on it because of that. And you know, you're lucky to even be in that game. The Lions just dominated you the first 15, 20 minutes of the game and they let you stay in it. So I think the time is now. Are they

going to do it? I don't think so. But if they do it, I might take their over win total. If they go interim coach, I'm all on board. It's what is it? Charge up, charge her up. Bolt up. Bolt up. All right. So you talk about like a shot in the arm, a little electricity for a team. No pun intended. Vegas did that. Vegas did that. I think Antonio Pierce should be the coach next year. I think if you were doing odds on favorites, because of what I know about what Mark Davis thinks about him and because of the way they've looked, you know, like offensive adjustments, running less eye formation, Jakob Johnson, he was out for a couple games. The run game changed a little. You got to keep Bohar degree

in the building. Okay. The offensive coordinator right now. You like him? The guy calling the plays. I was with him. I say they should sign them now. I was with him early on. I was with him early on and he was one of those guys that was like in the back of the meeting room he was super young you didn't know really what his role was who does he answer to who answers to him and then I look up a couple weeks ago and I'm like that's fucking Bo Hart Agree went followed him on Instagram private

page no no posts he's doing a good job and I'm proud of him and I'm like he has earned the right I saw I saw Michael Mayer get in the ball the last few weeks I'm like we've been banging on that drum since the draft I like Michael mayor they've got a great running back

Aiden O'Connell man took some shots yesterday I'm not quite sure. I'm not quite sure on the AOC thing in general. Yeah, I got you. But I do think that they have the right pieces. Yeah. Well, I mean, Kyle, listen, Aiden O'Connell, probably not the guy of the future, but they look more, they look more like a team that believes in themselves. Yeah. And we talk about abstract concepts like belief and all this stuff. This is a situation where I can see that the interim head coach, not only adjusting some things. And I don't think every call he made yesterday was perfect. He's botched a few things. Yeah, time management.

But it's early in his tenure as a head coach. And I think what he has is like he has the advantage of they just fired an interim head coach. And I don't think Mark Davis feels like he's lived that down yet. And so they're afraid to make that decision again. And he might not want to spend all that money that a big name coach might cost after having to pay McDaniels all that money. No question because they're not cash. You got develop your own talent, bro. And so here's the deal.

The dolphins, I want to talk about the dolphins, dolphins. This is a gutsy win by them. They fumbled the ball backed up a couple of times to a tight end, to a through a pick. You know, they got stuffed on fourth and one. Not every week it's going to be perfect for the dolphins, but if they can just get healthy and string a couple more of these gutsy wins together,

I'm glad that the dolphins beat a bad team by a score. For the dolphins, because it's just too easy for them most weeks. They have to be in these games. And I think it's a net positive for them to go through this. I've been too harsh on them, Chris. I called him frauds last way. I used the F word. I still feel. I called them frauds, but I also remember to when I was playing that I had a coach by the name of John Fox. And he always told us,

all you got to do is get into the dance. And then they throw all the other shit out. Well, that's one thing that goes that goes. And I truly believe in that. That's one thing that breaks nicely for the dolphins, because they will get in the dance. They probably win the division. I don't know. Maybe bills get hot. But if they get in the dance, you think about what's happened in the AFC. I mean, You know, you've got two franchise quarterback injuries. There's only so many teams that I feel like match up well with them. So, you know, if they can win a game against one of those backups, they can go to Kansas City the second week, that type of thing.

And then it's like if you beat the Chiefs, you can beat anybody. If you go to Arrowhead and beat the Chiefs. And they kept the Chief scoreless in the second half. It's not like they don't have any answers for the test. I mean, it's going to be a chess match, obviously, with those two guys. And honestly, there's like when Tariko and Waddle are on, there's really no guarding Tariko. Like, I mean, everyone, they're trying.

And it's just, he's a short shot for a touchdown or a hundred and twenty-five plus a game. It's when you know that that's going to happen, that's hard, like, on a defense. And, like, I feel like mentally getting ready to play them every week for your coach or, like, them to be like, hey, this guy's going to get his yard. How many things do you have to do to shift reinforcements to Tyree Kiel every week? And that's why, you know, like his health is so important. You know, you saw him yesterday exit the game. you know, like he's got to be healthy down the stretch. So anyways, we talk about Staley, we talk about interim head coaches in Vegas.

How about a guy who may, if you ask around or look at the odds, like Ron Rivera is a guy who sees kind of toasty. And, you know, in four years of football, Ron Rivera has not had a lot of great quarterbacks. Go look at that list. I mean, you're talking about guys like an older Alex Smith off of catastrophic leg injury, you know, Fitzpatrick, Wenz, Heineckee, Howl, a bunch of guys. So it's not like they've been set up to win, but I also just don't think that, like,

I don't feel like Ron's the answer. And I respect Ron a lot, but, like, they just make a lot of sloppy mistakes yesterday. The Bellinger blown coverage. It's a two-man concept. Bill Barnwell pointed that out. It's unforgivable how open he was. As for the offense, you look better this year because of Eric B. Enemy.

And I think the long question we've been asking for three, four years is, like, when is he going to get his shot? Well, this feels like a time where he might get his shot. you're going to be in a position where maybe you could draft a quarterback. They're four and six. Tough scheduled down the stretch. I think when you look around at Chicago looking like they might win some games, Titans might like Will Levis. Tampa looks frisky.

Vegas looks frisky. Giants pulled off a costly win. Atlanta and New Orleans are trying to win that division. You could be going down and pass these teams, so to speak. But the question I have is, do you want to do the Josh Harris process thing? Because he's from the sixers, the new owner. you know when you shed some of that fat you know at the edge you get a three and a two for your franchise players on defense you say okay we're loading up the question is do you want to enter that

next year with a new head coach and is it eric bianami because i don't want eric bianne to be levy smith you know lovey smith houston just nailed this thing by tanking for a year shedding weight signing questionable veterans and that sort of thing and then they go out and lose a bunch i don't want to see Eric Bienome be in that situation. What I want to see for Eric Bienemy is, if you're going to sign him and do that, then you need to assure him that that year just doesn't even count. So that's my thing. And if you want to go the other way and keep Ron away for another year, that's like a really

authentic tank job. Maybe you do that. Magic Johnson, very perceptive. We can see via his ex-app, his Twitter app. One thing he has noticed is this motherfucker, Sam Hal, can throw the football. Yeah. Eric Bienome can scheme guys open. The offense has this team in a position to be competitive every single week. Except for when they play the Giants. But we saw them against Philly. I mean, you see a team, a young team that people are writing off against an Eagles team and go up there and compete. Take it down to N plus. Sam Howell's throwing the ball really well.

He took a lot of sacks early. He's cleaned that up. I feel like the process is speeding up for him. He's gutsy. He's fun to watch. I mean, he's a competitor. And I feel like if you are the commanders,

you have to make the move. You got to keep it in-house, promote E.B. Give him a year on house money, like you said. Let him do his thing. Because to my original point, Magic's watching. Ownership groups.

Magic's watching. These guys are watching and they see, we like E.B. Keep him here. How's not the problem. Keep him here. How's not the problem. You're not going to be able to draft a quarterback in the second round

that's going to turn this thing around. We're going to end up in the fucking Kenny Pickett situation here. You don't know that, though, because they're pretty bad right now when you look at like down the stretch, they're going to play the doubt. You're going to play Dallas, the Finns, the Rams, the Jets, the Niners, and the boys. So how many more games do you think they win? Maybe two. Where does that put them?

They're going to be like in the top 10 at six wins. So like maybe you're in a situation where you can move up. Bo Nix, Michael Pennix, maybe. There are other guys. So the question is, do you think Sam Howe, who I remember when Taylor Heineke looked like the answer going toe to toe with Brady in the playoffs, in one of those, the first time they had like 10 wildcard games?

But the point is like, don't end up in a situation like that again where you're like, oh, how is the franchise guy? And then you got to shed him coming up soon and you forego an opportunity at a quarter- When do you have to pay him? I don't even know the answer to that question. So, I mean, that's really the... One more year?

I don't know, one or two more years. So he's got a bridge. Yeah. You could look at the worst spot to be in, like winning, having a quarterback who's just good enough to get you to 500 is the worst spot. I mean, you can deal some picks maybe. Yeah. They're showing that they're not afraid to shed some skin as you put it.

And somebody said in the Howl's probably top three in yards thrown. I think he's not one. He entered week 11. I don't want to take anything away from, I think he's a good quarterback. But Eric Bienami. has a lot to do with that. And also look at the floor.

Yesterday is the floor, right? Like they turn the ball over a bunch. You blitz him. He struggles. They haven't been able to beat the Giants. Like, so, you know, if he's your franchise guy, you got to eliminate some of this stuff. But to your, to your-

special game. Yeah. It was a Disney day for Tommy DeVito. Yeah, it was Disney Day. Do you think it has anything to do, or do you think this is a bad look for defensive-minded head coaches? in a sense that a lot of them, if you look around the lead,

they're not good with young quarterbacks. No, I think that's key. I think that's key. I think if you have a young quarterback, you should, like the Chargers, go fucking get Ben Johnson. Okay? Look what Ben Johnson did at the end of that game.

Look what Ben Johnson's done for Jared Golf. Okay? Go get a guy who, if you have a defensive head coach a rookie quarterback and a really good coordinator that makes the rookie better, that guy's eventually going to get a job. And so what I don't want to end up in a situation

like with Josh, Alan, where you have it working, Brian Daples the guy, but he's not the head coach. Eventually he's going to get a head coaching job, and Josh's play is going to dip. So I think, yeah, it's a bad look in general, but you know who's pulling it off is Houston. Now the question is, you know, not everybody's CJ Stroud

and how long is slow it going to hang around there it's a good point. Defensive head coach is young quarterback, not the way. You see, I mean, Rivera, he's struggling. You see Tomlin, they're struggling right now. Their defense is always good. I'm convinced Tomlin has decided to struggle offensively. It's like a decision.

I mean, even your boy Bill in New England, like with Mac Jones, like, it seemed like it was going to work, but it just doesn't seem like he has a full control over the offensive situation. And if you want to talk about Bill Belichick being the commander's next coach, which is a rumor that's flying around. Like, it's more of the same maybe. I don't know. He's a better coach than Ron.

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Yes. So it's not really, like they haven't decided. And I want to say this, it came to me yesterday thinking about the Aaron Rogers thing. We'll get that out of the way so you guys can gnaw on that a little bit. Because Aaron Rogers might come back in December now. We did talk about Joe Burrow. He's not playing. No, I know.

Well, he's coming back soon. That's funny you say that. You know, you know, you know what my working theory is? that Aaron knows they're going to be out of it he's never going to have to follow through with it. 100%. Like a lot of the things I say where I'm like, I'm going to do that.

And I'm like, I know I'm not going to do that because I'm not going to have to. And not saying he wouldn't be willing to go out there. I do think he's willing to do it. But I also think he knows this team's going to be like four and eight before you know it. And then like,

you're never going to have to prove that. He's up at the podium saying, I'll be back into Fortnite. He walks behind the curtain and the guy's like, no fucking way. Look at this team, dude. You think I'm going to come back here and run around like a chicken with my head cut off.

The real question is, who would throw a pass first? Joe Burrow or Aaron Rogers. Burrow. I mean, whoever opens next Thursday, or next year's Thursday night opener. You know, they're going to play at the same time. I see Aaron Rogers throw every week on the side line.

You do, you do. I haven't seen Joe throw a ball. You saw him try. Oh. Okay. You just did a quag barn. Oh, oh. And he was like, and then you saw a ball.

Sam Hubbard, he goes, what is it? And Joe Verow was like, not good. And then he goes, where is it? My wrist. On the upper or lower part, and he goes all over my wrist. The whole wrist. You saw what I'm saying. And I feel terrible for Joe.

We love Joe. I felt bad for Aaron Rogers when he got hurt because I was pulling for this team. And I am pulling for Aaron Rogers. I don't know if he's going to be back. And I think he knows that. But with the bills. I'm not making fun of Joe. I'm making fun of the situation.

The argument between you and Aaron. You and I. Okay. Okay. So here's what I like about the bills. I like the fact they made the move, right? You look at San Diego, Los Angeles. They might not make the move.

It's 154. Where is it? Where's the news? Nothing yet. They make the move at offensive coordinator. Joe Brady had a really magical run at LSU. You could say, hey, they had Justin Jefferson. They had all these guys.

They had Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase. But he did a great job. And when he gets to Carolina, he gets fired a year and a half in it's like context is important and I'm not going to take this one game as the whole sample size

just like I'm not going to take a Carolina tenure where Matt rules your head coach and take that to the bank I want to see this a couple weeks in a row but I'm excited about Joe Brady because of what I saw on the field yesterday the intermediate part of that passing offense was missing. It was like on a milk box

the entire season it was like either deep shot or something to the flat or Josh, just go play football. I've said on occasion that it feels like they're not calling a game, they're calling plays. And it felt like yesterday they were calling a game. You know, you had QB draw stuff, QB run stuff. You had better route adjustments off of coverage. Like we complain sometimes about receiving cores in New Orleans at times, in Green Bay at times,

where you're just like, are you coaching these guys the right way as the down goes on to find voids and extend plays? And I thought they did did that yesterday. Kincaid included. There was one snap where Kincaid looked like, well, Kincaid didn't look like Kelsey, but it looked the same way that Mahomes and Kelsey. The chem, the chem, dude. And so Diggs got eight targets.

That's great. AP Chem. AP cam. Kincaid got it. I took it twice, not the AP though. We had a really pretty teacher. Yeah, I love Ms. Van Luce so much. I took chemistry twice.

Yes. I think I have more to do with the fact that I was fucking terrible at it. But Kincaid, eight targets, Gabe Davis, target, maybe something to look at, more big plays. Running backs did a good job. Ty Johnson played well. They went to him in the flat on fourth and one.

The only critique I have is early drives. Give James Cook the ball in the red zone. That's the one criticism I have. But overall, you score 30 plus points on the Jets. That is a far cry from what I saw on Monday. To start the season on Monday night. Josh threw that ball to the front left of the pylon in the red area and it was nearly intercepted and I tweeted,

Josh fucking did it again. And then they showed the second angle. and it was actually a fabulous ball and an even better play by that corner triple extension there. But I'll say this. Firm believer in confidence, firm believer in football is a people business. And if the people aren't viking

and there's no trust there, you're never going to see a clean product. Yes. And we all know what's going to happen when Josh Allen's confident and the play caller's confident. And like you said, it's not a play caller. It's a game caller.

So we're going to call Joe Brady, the game caller. The game caller. He's the gamekeeper. The gamekeeper. And the confidence that you can see that just pours out of Joe Brady, like when they show him in the booth, I mean, he is just fucking stoked. It's like he's been waiting to have his shot all season long.

The relationship with the play caller and the quarterback, do you think that there's something to be said there with, we saw a disheveled-looking OC last week, and now we see a guy who looks like he's, you know, cleaned up. You got a fresh fade, and he's ready to go. Dude, you know this. It's not just about calling plays. It's also about walking players through the scheme,

giving them the why, telling them, hey, in this situation, this is why we're not doing it. Hey, this is the team we're playing, Josh, respect the script of the game, respect the opponent we're playing,

the situation we're in. It's so much more than just calling plays. And I think that's where, if I had to guess, Ken and Josh didn't get along as well as Dable. And I'm not saying that he didn't get along with Ken, but there is an element of like, you don't see everything the same.

Yeah. Like Chris, you talked about, somebody just said in the chat, He was confident. You and I always love when Josh Allen runs. I think Josh Allen is at his best when he's running the football. Yesterday we saw 15 rush yards, one of which was a QB draw,

which tells me that Joe Brady may see something else with Josh Allen that he's confident in, which if you're a Bill's fan, it makes you very excited. The strength of his game wasn't even showcased, and they were able to go out there and play pretty efficiently. The bills are like the Whitewalkers. The winter is coming. And we know what happens when the winter comes because you do have a quarterback that can run the ball if you need to win.

Defenses don't want to tackle an entire game. When it's snowy, when it's all that, when you have home court advantage, they might not get home field events this year. Yeah, they won't. But I mean, they can still win their division. Only field advantage is they'll be at home watching. I'll throw some water in it, though.

Their next three games. It's tough. Eagles at Chiefs versus Cowboys. And that's why I said this morning, and that's why I said this morning when I went on Eisen's show, if the bills make the playoffs, look out. Because if they make the playoffs, that means that they had to crawl through shit for seven weeks and find out who they are and scratch and claw. If they get there, that means they're a dangerous team.

So watch out for the bills. And by one lasting impression, I'll never forget this clip from yesterday. Zach Wilson running out of bounds and taking out Robert Salah and they both go down. They're just wrestling with each other. It's the slowest fall. And it kind of reminds me of the entire thing

because like Sala, I respect him a lot. He's trying to land this plane. But like Zach could take him down with him. Like the decision to stick with Zach this long throughout the season is one that gets you in trouble. And I'm not saying he's on the hot seat, but this is a pretty metaphorical situation here. Also it hurts Salo.

And when they scan to Salah, like... But he also took one for the team. Like 15 seconds after the play was about to start, yeah, that face... Yeah, he's feeling it. He's feeling it. The Taylor Rap injury, there was like... I thought that we were going to have to have Ambia lie on the field

because there was two separate piles of bodies on the field. Yeah, and of course, these fuckers, they scroll right to Damar. And he's like, not looking dead serious about it because he obviously just got the thumbs up. He just got the thumbs up. I thought it was a stinger. For context. Yeah.

He was like, smiling. and they were like, they had just panned him, expecting him to be sober. Yeah, exactly. And he was like cracking up because his buddy was like, I'm good. But it's also good that DeMar is in a place where somebody goes down in the field and like, he's concerned, but also he's not, he's not like having a panic attack because of what he's been through. He's there to support his homies. Good for tomorrow.

Again, like I could go every week and say good for tomorrow for just getting back. But they keep trying to put him in bad positions on TV. Yeah, but I said this, we were talking about comeback player of the year. And he's like the odds on favor or whatever. and some people killed me because I was like he probably should win it just by taking a snap. And people are like, that's not what the award's about the whole thing. Like, did you forget the guy almost died? Like to go back, when you get attacked by a shark to get back in the water like some of these guys do,

it's fucking incredible to me. Yeah. And it's the equivalent of going to fucking PCH and putting your surfboard in there and getting a fucking great white shark taking a little chunk out of you. And you go back out there and you serve. Yeah. Some guys, they go to the wedge with their boogie board, then they never come back.

They never come back, dude. So anyways, I'm just big ups to him as always. Pittsburgh and Cleveland. I also think there's a lot of people that get pissed off about the Demar thing because what they thought wasn't true. And that's where I'll leave. Buddy, strange. Man, I got messages from people like, that's a body double at the SBEs.

Strange population. It's definitely, yeah, I mean, some weirdos in the world. You know who you are. You know who you are. We don't have to get back into it. You're the people that your family has to. warn the other family members about before thanks you're why they're seatbelts you know seatbelt it's fucking so anyways if it's not for people like you i could just drive around no problem

yeah okay so anyways Pittsburgh Cleveland and somebody's mad in the chat well you were fucking wrong dude you were you were ignorant fuck okay Pittsburgh and Cleveland Kyle Pittsburgh wasn't ready to play and that that's the bottom line I mean like Jalen Warren was Jalen Warren's ready to play but they only give him the ball nine times. Okay. He makes it count. The defense, 12-1-on- the field, the second play, you got to use the timeout. On the touchdown drive, Injoku for an explosive, you let him out, you have a face mask. The offense, you start the game off with the safety, you get bailed out. The second play, J. O'K., I think it was,

just runs through Hayward in the crease there between the tackle and the tight end, blows that play up. They're just not ready to play. First and 10, you get to delay a game in the first half. And the offensive scheme, Kyle, there are games like the Jacksonville game and I think Steelers Depot pulled me saying it's not Matt Canada's fault and people took it to mean that in general it's not Matt Canada's fault every week is Matt Canada's fault this week is Matt Canada's fault this week because like there were no adjustments Kenny Pickett talked about that after the game. Naji Harris said they knew their plays they knew their plays and what I'm about to tell you confirms that Kyle because the Browns play a little

bit more zone okay like they switched it up quarter to quarter take the second 11th swing pass early in the game. If you remember this, they ran trips to one side. They run the swing pass out there. They're thinking those three receivers are going to clear it out because these guys are probably in man. But even if you're in zone, these guys shouldn't be that quick to trigger to this play. And the slot defender is taking a step to make this play before Kenny Pickett even has a step. They call it putting your foot in the ground. When you put your foot in the ground and you go downhill, it tells you know something. You know something. This guy knows something. I used to watch Kyle Kyle a Fuller do it on so many routes.

You know something. This motherfucker just studies more than you. And every week somebody knows something against his team and whether it's the third and four late in the game that throw a swing pass to war. And it's basically covered two. The guy comes right off, makes the play. You know, you talk about that play early

and not making adjustments. There were times where the Brown's second level players were beating the Steelers to the motion. Like, they were like, oh, here comes motion. And then they just start running. That doesn't happen. And then the guy on the Steelers would start running. And, you know, like, instead of adjusting, you spend the whole game throwing screens

in disadvantageous looks. You know, they get a good drive before the half Kyle, third and two at midfield. And you've got a shot to kick a field goal, which is worth 10 points in this game. It's a fucking rock fight of all rock fights. Yeah. And third and two, you don't run the ball. You drop back and throw it. You leave Dan Moore all alone on Miles Garrett.

Okay? How does that end? In a sack. jail. Jail. Go to jail. Go to jail. That's,

what is it when you help somebody kill somebody? It's like an assistant. Yeah, let's not. Euthanasia. No, no, assistant to like,

accomplished to a murder. Yeah, okay, I thought you were talking about youth and age. Well. Yeah, doctor for working.

Okay. So anyways, like. That's just bad ball. It's bad ball. It's more like, it's like, it's like euthanasia.

Like, it's e words with you. The other one, I'm not going to bring it up again. Jeez. Frank Thomas? Jail now. Yeah,

jail for you and mac canada in the same holding cell you know what would you do if you're in the same holding cell as mac canada you know everything mac canada was going to do mac canada goes to shank you you're like uh-uh-uh so anyways um uh-uh johnson and picket they have zero chemistry you're not throwing the wall to pickens at all i've said this before i caught some shit for you're going to crazy that guy's going to lose his mind but he's so talented johnson and picket have no chemistry you get a drop an opi late in the game huge third and eight they hurry up they're like like oh we're gonna catch him with their pants down they catch themselves with their pants down they're not on the same page i've been on offenses like this chris i've been on teams like this

where you just cannot get it going and everybody's pointing their fingers in different directions and well that guy is not a great teammate you see him lose his mind a receiver well our quarterback couldn't hit the broad side of a barn well our offensive coordinator couldn't draw up a fucking uh you know coloring book that's the situation you're in i've been on teams like that what it does is the young stars you have in that locker room they're going to develop at a less than less than normal rate, they're going to be checked out, guys are starting to not believe, trust in the system. Look at Najee Harris after the game.

It took 10 seconds for him to answer a question on whether or not they're predictable. Like that says it all. Before you even answer it, I know what you're thinking. And then they ask him if guys have a team first attitude and he's like, I don't really want to answer that. I'm just going to talk about myself. There are a bunch of red flags here. And I'm not panicking on the Steelers.

Rich asked me about, am I panicking about the Steelers? Panicking relative to what expectation? This is who they are. They'll get in the playoffs. They're going to finish strong. They're going to win close rock fights. But then they get in the playoffs. They've traded their ceiling for a high floor.

There's a crisis every week. And they're just trying to put their finger in that hole of the dam. Every week it changes. But it's usually in the same section of the dam. And the worst part of it for me was you get the ball with a minute 45 left and you have a chance to go kick a field going to win this game. Incomplete. Hit the mascot. Incomplete.

You take 14 seconds. That is the cardinal sin in that situation. I don't care if you run the ball and fans get mad at you or you throw a screen that keeps the ball in bounds. Most of these two-minute drives in situations like this at the end of the game, sometimes you get a drive starter to see if you're going to get that first down, right? To bleed a little clock so the other team doesn't have time. And usually you do that because the other offense is really explosive.

Cleveland's not explosive, but they showed you all game that they could dink and dunk you quickly for 20 yards. and they get the ball back with a minute 15, they kick a field goal to win the game. And I just want to shout out DTR. 100%. Because they had faith in him to hit Cooper on that chunk. You could see how happy guys were for him after the game.

I think everything that the Browns want to do is still out in front of them. I don't know about the Super Bowl, but... But you and I are going to play say... Maybe a long odds bet because it's so much easier to root for DTR. I'm just going to... My bias is out on the table. But on top of that, I also think sometimes the defense and the team

when you're like, this is what it is, whether it's the Jets and hey, are we going to get Rogers back? Or are we going to, you know, like, is Deshaun going to be up or down week to week? Well, now he's gone. So the point is you got to line up as a defense and say, hey, we got to prove it week in and week out that we're great even when there's no margin for air.

And defenses can do that. Sometimes they play better in those situations. So I still believe in the Browns, especially with the Bengals being out. I think a week ago I said the Browns might not make the playoffs, but with the Bengals out, that's your spot. So go take that spot. Do you agree with the decision to go with DTR over Walker?

100%. I'm not in that room, and I trust Kevin Stavansky. You know why I trust Kevin Sifansky? Because he did a great job yesterday, okay? Third and medium, they're getting DTR out on the edge. They're running Wildcat. They're sneaking in Joku out on that play I talked about, force a coverage breakdown.

They did funky stuff like taking a big old lineman, fast across the formation, leading front side and then setting up a Cedric Tillman reverse with the same look. There's little things he calls games. He calls games, okay? And I thought their game plan was great.

Let's get these guys on on the second level and see if these Steelers guys at the second level are as good as their guys up front. We know the answer to that, especially with Kwan out. And I'll say this, the biggest difference in the game, those two fronts are great. But that second level of Steelers' defense is a problem.

And I think the biggest advantage that Cleveland had was those linebackers were awesome. Taki-Tocky, J-O-K, those guys have continued to make a bunch of plays, and the backhand guys are great too. Frustrating. TTR's experience, and, you know, you talk to the, I talked to the guys at CBS, you know, the OGs over there, like the Phil's and the boomers and Coach Cower,

and they say, look, we don't have to throw touchdowns every time. Punning's not bad. Like, and we've said this time and time again, like, it's okay to punt. Go let our defense make a play. it becomes a World War I trench warfare. Like, let's move the front line a little bit here and just not give up the big one.

They just need to play World War II ball. They're playing World War I ball. Well, they can win like that. They're doing trench warfare. They need to do World War II ball. No, I'm talking about Pittsburgh, though. Cleveland. I mean, here's what I wrote down for the Cleveland.

Cleveland's got some World War II. I love Cleveland's football DNA. Few teams have the identity. They really do. They're a hard-nosed defense. They've got two backs that they can hand it to without even blinking. and saying these guys are going to be able to get us yards

that do it a different type of way. And yeah, DTR experience. That's the reason they went with him. For the Steelers, his experience. Your offensive MVP is, your offensive MVP is Jalen Warren at this point in the season. If they had a banquet and they were handing out awards, it's Jalen Warren.

And he can't, you know, that first play of the second half, like that's what he has in him. You're not going to be a team that moves the ball up and down the field and scores a lot of points. Give it to guys with the upside, you know, that can make big plays. You know how he tackles this guy breaks? He leads the league.

He has a 0.41% mistackle rate. He's been like a sugar domino bag. Yeah, he only gets 28 snaps a game. He's just running out. Sugar domino bag. You know what he also leads the league in? Time in his helmet. Because the guy doesn't take his helmet off

the entire game, even when he's on the sideline because his high school football coach is like, you're on a football field. We keep the helmet on. So I don't know if that means anything, but I love the guy. I kept mine out in college because I was bald and nobody knew it. I kept it on the pros because you know you're thinning and winning

and you know it's hard to have that hat head but it's even worth that worse to have the helmet head get caught on my my helmet to the bar you know closing thought here for the for the browns the formula is in the first half two one five to throw for him zero pressures for the steelers I think on the on the on the on the game they had one sack and maybe 10 pressures and those all came in the second half seven yard stop routes underneath just do it take it Just take the top of it's how you move the fucking sticks because your run game so good those guys inside are so good The center poachich I can't even say Wyatt teller by the way

I teller man crush Monday Why don't teller that's the new award those to give out every day man crush Monday man crush Monday Max Crosby There we go it's the first first edition and the last thing is they signed Joe Flacco so we'll talk about that a little bit later, but Joe Flacco the greatest Baltimore Raven ever to play you know what's funny about Joe Flacco thing I love Joe Flacco, the fucking greatest dude. We came in the same draft class. I've seen him like five times over the course of my career outside.

Like I've sacked him and seen him on the field. But every time I see him, he's just the coolest dude. Cial City. Bro, as a guy who spent two years with the Eagles, like, if he didn't play football, he'd be one of the guys in the tunnel after the game, like bleeding green. I just love the guy. And also, I saw him at inside the NFL the first week, he was coming in for some auditions. And I'm like, what are you up to?

And he's like, I think I want to keep playing. Fuck, yeah. This was week one. And I'm like, really? And he's like, yeah, I'm going to keep working out and see what happens. And I'm like, interesting. So you could see him start a game for the Browns as some point. Anyways.

They're bright. Houston. Yeah, they are. Houston. I believe that. Houston. Here's what I love about Houston. A lot of people are saying, what do you love about Houston?

Slim thug. All wall. Swang and lax. Big pokey. Zero. the crooked, okay? 25 lightus. Bun B.

I can keep naming them. But here's what I love about Houston. Okay? Oh, oh, there's one guy I absolutely love out of Houston. I'm forgetting his name. Right now he's a newer rapper. I'll get back to you on that.

Tank Dell. Maxo Cream. Maxo Cream. That's who. Remember when I was bumping Maxo Cream for like an entire month straight? I love Maxo Cream. Okay.

Houston, here's what I love about Houston. This was the first game that the other team was like, I'm hunting you, which is a different thing in the NFL. Go back and look at their schedule this year. Do you think they walked into a single building where the team was like, we got to beat these guys, including Carolina.

It's the same challenge for Carolina every week. And for Carolina, that was personal because the quarterbacks and that sort of thing. But they not only have found different ways to win, they got smacked in the face 90 seconds in here, and they got to respond. You know, but like last two weeks ago, shootout against Tampa. Last week going on the road to beat a contender at that point.

I thought Stroud showed a lot of toughness when he got crushed by Thompson early in this game. You've taken over the league for a week. People are talking about MVP. Before we threw those picks, Nate's in there like MVP. That's the way we feel this week because he played that good lately. Yeah. The picks were terrible, okay? Two of them were awful.

But they overcame it because they can run the ball. Kyle, no you're excited to talk about that. The one in the end zone was terrible? The first one I didn't like it. In the middle of the end zone on the high point. I didn't like that. You like that? I love that ball.

I love that from CJ. You said the same thing. That's not a good thing. I feel like he's... I'm just getting outnumbered by people with bad opinions on this one. No, no, I just, in terms of a quarterback with con... I mean, they've got it. And he's got the skill and he knows he does.

He can... Okay, I'm sorry. We disagree. I just want to hear what you... I want to hear you guys talk this out. He gives his fucking guys chances to make plays. That's what I'm saying. with a different receiver, like guys going up.

I think. But it's okay. This is why we have a show. You're fighting for that. I don't like to pick. I chalk that one up to just being confident. You know why I also don't like the pick? Because last week you looked up at half and you should be running away with that game

and you turn the ball over twice in the red zone. And this week you do the same thing. Downs, pick. And then you throw two picks later. Okay, like he gets games like this. He's a rookie at the end of the day. He's going to have games like this. And the Cardinals, I said this coming in the week.

I gave out the Cardinals at plus four and a half. I'll be damned if Vegas didn't move the line to five and a half. They lose by five because Gannon doesn't like using his kicker, but I know he's not trying to cover. But the whole thing is like the Cardinals are a tough team right now with Kyler Murray. I don't mean they're great, but they're tough out. And so this was a tough situation for Houston to come off that game last week and get punched in the mouth.

And they stood up. You want to talk about guys stepping up. Christian Harris stepped up. I want to shout him out. Perryman's out. Harris has been playing really well lately. These linebackers are a bit strained with depth and that sort of thing. That two-point conversion, if it's not for him, that game's totally different.

That negative six-yard play he knocked James Connor down on, I think it was the last drive. Put them behind the sticks on first down. They don't win that game if not for that. So the head guys step up. The run game was great, but don't live this way. You had 33 yards in the first half, and you're finding yourself in a game with the Cardinals. Don't live this way. Now we can talk about Bobby Sloak, the offensive coordinator for the Houston Texans,

that we just found out was in the Washington commanders. The artist formerly known as the R-Words, and he was also in San Francisco, and to your point about turning the football over, I know the point of emphasis for Kyle Shanahan and Brock Purdy's ear is keep the football in our team's hands. So for C.J. Stroud, I'm sure Bobby Sloak, a lot of the same there. But just credit to that offense for being able to be balanced. We think it's an all-C. Strowd show. but Devin Singletary, a buck 50 last week.

I think he had like 120 or something this week. They're able to do it a number of ways. So shout out to the whole program down there in Houston. They're doing a good job. Miko Ryans is, you can tell he's a hell of a football coach, man, and I love to see it. Tank Dell is open the way that Jamar Chase describes himself. Bro, tank del.

Where he's like, I'm 7-11. No, fucking Tank Dell is always open. Wawa. Dude, you're getting a deal. Your Mar Chase might be like that 7-Eleven on Ivy Road. It's like city. They just closed. That was my honey hole for a long time.

Yo, I just drove by that. It's closed. On Ivy Road? No, it's gone. It's gone. It's gone. Stop. Yeah.

Some business is going to last three years there. I'm going to buy that building and start a 7-Eleven. That's where you used to do Bitcoin. All right. I'm going to open a 7-12. Was it? Okay. They had a machine in there.

Why is it called 7-Eleven again? When it first opened, it was open from the hours. of 7 till 11 and then eventually became a 24 hour chain. I'm gonna call it a 24. 24-365. Never closes. There's 24-7. Just a bunch of zorn in there.

Some fucking toky-toky chips. Taki-tops. I would love to- Because you like those. Have you ever seen me eat tachy chips? The Pocky. You're the one trying to get- Those are chocolate.

The tachies are the ones that. No, those are banned. I've never eaten the to taki. So many people die off of the packy chips. But I would love to start a gas station. chips yeah oh yeah there's like people like yeah like people it's an epidemic it's making people catching like asthma attacks and things like that it's like the tide pods but like you know it's like what are we doing no no so anyways i'm gonna open a gas station where i

curate all the items in the gas station because i think i could nail that um i want to say this about kiler kiler does rare things bro the more touchdown i don't even think he can see him he lets that ball loose it's beautiful to scramble for the touchdown he's the only guy in the league if you freeze frame that picture with five guys running to the pylon it's just him the plays broken down that he's going to be able to get that ball to the pylon the long scrambled negated by a hold like there are moments with kailer murray where you're like oh fuck yeah stick with him then there's the underthrohn pick there's the fourth and four that's behind murphy you know they they did not convert on fourth down in the second half in key spots i still think there's a lot of good going on with kiler i

think at the very least this offense right now looks like an NFL offense like one that you have to contend Connor's been great. Conner's great. Having him back, being able to get like four and a half, five yards of pop, just a big strong guy who can carry the rock. But I want to talk about Kyler Murray for a minute. He's a guy that I'm guilty of making fun of. He plays video games.

They have to mandate study time on his iPad. But one thing that you can't really quantify is the amount of effort a guy puts into the rehab process when you've had a season ending injury, particularly a leg injury when you're a guy who prides himself and excels it moving well. The way that he has looked the last two weeks is great in production, but just his physique in general. His upper body looks bigger. His lower half looks strong.

He's got trunks for legs right now. I just love the process. I was a doubter of this. I was kind of fading the comeback. Yeah, me too. Kyler Murray has proven some guys wrong here. Yeah, it's two games. We're excited for him.

And I think with the Cardinal situation, Kyle, and the contract, like you do have to look hard at keeping him around. And I think that's probably the over 50% chance of what's happening. Yeah, they're set up. He's a gamer, pun intended. And he's a guy when he's on the field, like, you can tell that he's trying to win. Like, and sometimes like, or especially at the quarterback position, that goes a long way. It does.

Like, especially when you have all the cloud and the muddy water around him coming back from injury, what's going on. Am I the quarterback of the future? To cure all that, you go out there and you play well. and that's what he's doing the past couple of weeks. I think they beat the Rams this week. I do. They're catching a point.

I already put that bet in. Do you think they're going to win so many games that they don't even have a choice to draft the top quarterback? They won't. I don't think they're going to do it because they will win a couple games and also like you've got an entire year

where I think the dead money is over $80 million. It's just like it's going to be hard to move them. There will be teams that will like Justin Fields and Kyler Murray. And my point earlier was, say, hey, look at what's happened with a lot of quarterbacks getting banged up. And I don't know if there's any elite quarterbacks right now. Like Mahomes is the one guy that, you know,

I feel like he stayed relatively healthy. Yeah, but even in the game, I'm glad you bring this up because the Super Bowl that I was covering for CBS two years ago in Tampa, when Mahomes ran around for dear life and he wasn't healthy, he had foot stuff. Like, I don't even care if you're Patrick Mahomes. If you're not healthy as a quarterback,

if you're not on the field, you're not going to be the same. And the point is if you're looking to commit to a bunch of you, years here and the Cardinals already have or the Bears are you willing to like say okay this is our guy in Stan Pat you have to think about the attrition of being these guys because that's what the NFL is telling you right now is like hey these guys get hurt and i don't just mean running Lamar limps every week i don't mean just you know running quarterbacks i also just mean mobile quarterbacks like Deshawn Watson or like Justin Herbert or like um joe burrow you know like guys like that

It doesn't just have to be a guy that Kyler or Lamar, they can run the ball for 40 yards. I do worry about that. Let's talk about Detroit. Because I got fans in the chat. Detroit who are excited about talking about Detroit. I'm excited about talking about Detroit because you let the Bears cover yesterday. I have to pee again.

Yeah, pee again. I'll keep talking. Thank you. What's going on with your bladder, bro? Fly on the wall. Oh. All right. So here's what I'll talk about with Detroit.

And then Kyle will come back and put a bow on it. But I thought this was, just like the Houston game, you can find value in a win like this. And Dan Campbell is really good at this after the game, reinforcing that it's hard to win the NFL. I've heard him say it a million times, and they all count the same. And I also think he probably said at some point,

we have unlocked a new way to win on this team. Because they have not won like this. They have not been down two scores under five minutes to go in the ball game and come back in one. They've had comebacks, but not this quick, Not when it's 98% that the Bears win. That's some of the analytics that I saw late in that game. It's never really won when golf has played this badly.

And except for the Vegas game, which to me is like, that's the troubling thing about this team right now is, okay, you can say, hey, we find new ways to win, that sort of thing. But you kind of won the same way two weeks ago against Vegas, not a great team, red zone issues, bad pick in the red zone to Marcus Peters. You let them hang around. So if you have any worries about Detroit, and I love the team, I love Dan Campbell, I think they are.

contenders. I said earlier in the year they're not. I want to change my philosophy on calling teams contenders and not because really what are you talking about? Can they win a Super Bowl? Of course they can. Do I think it's more than likely that they do? No. Do I think they need home field advantage to have a chance to do that? Yes, which is why this game was enormous. And what tonight's game is huge? It's huge. Do I do I trust Jared golf outside in the NFC or the NFC championship in Philly or something. No, I don't. But that's not to say he's not a good quarterback who I admire. Okay, like, am I going to trust Jalen or him in that situation? I'm trusting Jalen. It speaks even more to how great Ben Johnson has done there. Ben's done a great job. And the point is, like, for you to get in that

situation, I think what they're great at in Detroit is they're really well coached. So that great and situational football, the two-minute drill, you run it two times in a span of four minutes to perfection. That's good coaching, especially having the confidence to do that even after Goff's picks which I'll put a lot of you know I'll tip my cap to golf for that because he's a mentally tough dude you talk about a guy that they ran out L.A McVeigh didn't like him. He's mentally hardened people look at him and you're like yeah he's this fucking guy that he's from the beach and he's got people same thing with Herbert they're like oh he's just this this bowl cut looking guy from bulk cut I don't know he did that's a great hair cut

take it back but the point is Jared Goff is tough and so I admire him for that Coming back off those picks, but the reminder is you need to avoid this. This is what you worry about, is the quarterback play cratering at different points, and you worry about not having home field. And I worry about the defense. Two weeks in a row, getting made to look kind of average at times. You need guys outside of Ali McNeil and Hutch to make plays. Hutch got off the snide, has been in a bit of a slump when it comes to that sack number,

but came through with the game on the line in Detroit, or Detroit having Chicago backed up. So that was a beautiful rush. I hate that that's the rush that they remember from the game because the game I remember watching is Big Darnow Wright, setting big, firm, and square against one of the league's best. And that's a battle. And if you're a Detroit or a Chicago fan,

these are the matchups you're going to be watching. All it takes is a one though, right? I love the young skill guys in Detroit. I love the coverage guys in Chicago. I love the rusher for Detroit. I love the O'Lyman for Detroit. I love the rusher, you know, for Chicago. There's all the matchups.

but Aiden and Darnell was fun to watch. It's a battle. And the savvy move to push Darnell when the ball is rolling and Darnell kicks it. How about Darnell kicking the ball? I didn't even think about it because I was by the, I get these sticky notes with my bets on them

and I slap them on the wall when I think they've hit. And Chicago Plus 10, I flex sealed that motherfucker like in the beginning of the fourth quarter. And had the lions pick that ball up and score, it was sad, city homes so i'm really thankful for don't know right getting his uh his justin tucker

justin fields man i don't know i missed it i was you know in the bathroom i saw it it was awesome justin fields to go out there and do the things he did make the throws he did um look as comfortable after the time off and even with the the thumb which as you know is it's a bitch dealing with that thumb he bawled out man uh that's the guy that's the guy you want to build around go get marvin harris Junior, bro. Go get Marvin Harrison, Jr. Give him another guy to throw to. Continue to build this group. I like the young pieces on the offensive line.

You got sweat. You don't need to go overdraft for a guy who's not worth it up top. You can go get what you really need. Yeah, I just don't think the staff is the right. The staff threw this game at the end. You take the ball out of your best players' hands. Justin Fields has to be

the one with the football. You don't go on fourth and one. You don't go on fourth and five. They could have put this team away. There are some questions in my mind of whether like you're really trying to win this game at times. But Justin from a development standpoint, this was a great day for him because you look at their runs by the quarterback and this includes scrambles over the first, you know, whatever it is, 10 weeks of the season, it's eight a game. But he had 19 yesterday. So like this, this and you know, you could say, oh, he didn't throw the ball much. Well, you know why? Because the run game was working.

They ran the ball over 40 times. You know half those plays, they're setting up with quarterback run. That's a major part of what he heard he had. 21 completions for 350 yesterday, so don't fucking tell me we got to throw it 50 times a game. Exactly. And that offense is a little more explosive. But I'm getting your, I'm, football theory. I agree with you. Justin Fields is going to make somebody happy at some point. And I joked yesterday. And I've tried, it's been a funny thing because I know that like people keep receipts. I have tried to keep one foot in this bandwagon the entire time with Justin Fields because I think at some point we're going to look up and somebody's going to be really happy with him

as a quarterback. And this was a game where he looked really good. It wasn't just the, the legs, it was the throws, man. That's what the throws with pressure in his face. It throws DJ more. The throws off off platform. Third and two bomb shot to Scott. He's got to catch that ball. He just didn't track it well.

That's just a guy not with a ton of experience of, you know. Elite tracking is a thing, dude. And if you're not a great tracker. And so my point is, tracker. Whether, if you're a Bears fan, it's good news no matter what you think. If you think. We lost.

Justin looked great. If you think trade Justin Fields, he looks good. That's good for everybody else to see, okay? If you want to keep Fields, he looked really good. You move the pocket. You look more like an offense that's suited for him. And both of you guys, if there's a Bears fan in this chat who wants to trade him, if there's a Bears fan in this chat who wants to keep him,

you both should be happy. Win, win. Because you lost the game and the Giants lost. And, you know, like, there's just other teams that are not sticking the landing on this thing. and you are finding ways to look good and lose games. If you can do this the rest of the season, you can be all right. Well, Jalen Johnson almost to pick six there, missed it. Another one.

And that's the guy who's begging to get paid right now. And I mean, if you're begging top dollar, those are the plays you make, right? Yeah. You get two hands on the football coming out of your own end zone. Buddy, pick six city. That's how you go to the end zone. And the Panthers lost. You go, sign me.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. And you do the seatbelt thing, which I thought was a sword. You and Big Cat are fucking sword fighting idiots. Yeah. Yeah. So anyways, really good from Justin Fields and you stick the landing as a bear's team because the Panthers lost too or lost as well. Marvin Harrison Jr. The pick is in. We got an ad read and then we're going to get into the uglies. You shouldn't have to worry when you buy tickets to your next big event. Game time is the fast and easy way to buy tickets for all the sports, music, comedy and theater events near you. With killer last minute deals, all in prices of views from your seat and their best price guarantee. Game time.

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lowest price guaranteed. If you were going to bet the charges this week for $20, just like, you know, game time. You know, it's better ways to spend your money than betting the chargers. I was going to say better help, but. Better help, yeah. Maybe next week.

Get a Vegas insider account or something. They'll tell you, like, it's not going to be good. Okay, so the uglies here. By the way, you know how bad the charges are? the Sharps have been begging to be right about the Packers all year long. You know, whether it was the Minnesota game or the Pittsburgh game, the Sharps are like, nah, the Sharp play is the Packers. The Sharps are the whales, right?

The Sharps are like the guys that move the lines, the guys who really think about this stuff all week. And so, you know, like yesterday to actually be made right in that situation, you're the only team that made the Packers look good. And so anyways, not to- Talk about this juggernaut up there. Let's talk about the ugly. San Francisco and Tampa Bay.

Here's the one big thing that came out of this game, other than Brock Purdy looking great, and he does win they're at full strength. Ufanga, he probably tore his ACL. He did confirm. I think what's interesting here is you do play some single high, you go too high, you got great chemistry with him and Gibson. You wonder if they're going to be predictable,

a little bit more predictable defensively. I think the Jire Brown kid is going to be a huge swing for them, Either way down the stretch. His comp coming out was Ryan Clark. I like that. You saw him late in the game, fourth and four on Evans. I like it. I like what I see from him, but these are big shoes to fill.

Yeah, he's definitely a glue guy, right? I mean, a guy that flies around, he's always around every single pile, Hupanga, hitting guys, peeling dudes. And that's just after the play. During the play, he's relentless effort, all that type of stuff. But this defense, we've seen when they get back to the basics the last few weeks,

they've been playing pretty well. I mean, they're playing an accelerated rate of defensive football. But the offense is what I'm most impressed in, dude. It's the offense. It's Brock Purdy to what we're just talking about, not a large sample size of throws, but to have 3.30, I think it was 3.30, being able to hit guys in stride, IUC, big time catches for this team. Trump Williams' back of the lineup is awesome.

CMC being used in so many ways. Motion counter motion. That CMC motion, they bring him down. If you're the linebacker, you have to respect it, right? You're moving down the line with him, and then boom, he's out the back door. That's some Andy Reid type shit. And then you're running through traffic. That's Andy Reid type shit.

Yeah, and you can see teams taking things from San Francisco. I mean, I see all types of stuff, you know, like from the Kittle thing where they bring them across the formation over the years, like they've done this somewhere. if I'm a defensive end, I'm trying to set the edge, and all of a sudden's like, boom, who the fuck is that? You just get knocked off your feet.

Like, I see Cleveland doing the same type of stuff. I see other teams mimicking this scheme. I mean, when they're rolling, they're great. Dan Campbell did it with an alignment. Yeah, so, I mean, like, listen, they're really good. Super Bowl favorites as of this morning. They're Super Bowl favorites? And rightfully so, man.

Rightfully so. They were my Super Bowl pick before the year, but I'm not. not pulling for it. But there's always the dogs, right? There's the dogs. And the dogs might bark. The dogs is the field. One dog that might bark could be the Jacksonville Jaguars. And listen, they looked awful against the San Francisco team last week. I thought they were terrible off a by. I don't think they beat the Niners, you know, most of the time off a buy or

otherwise, but I thought they played their worst ball. And they got boat race. And they have a habit of that. They got bullied. They got bullied. They got boat race. By the way, Chase Young had a sack yesterday, really good rush. Tennessee, Jacksonville, this is a game I gave out. Jacksonville, you might want to look at their win total. I took over 10 and a half before they played the Titans, Sunday, live win total. I think they're going to stack a lot of these games up, and they could host a playoff game or two, and that's a big deal.

And so to me, Jacksonville, we said before the season, I don't know how great they are, but they might be the team that wins 12, 13 games and puts himself in an advantageous situation in the postseason. I thought there's a really good rebound by them, taking care of a team you're supposed to beat, who they've customarily, I think, taken care of in division. So this was good. We don't need to say a bunch more about this game,

but if you have anything. I mean, it was a slow start for the Jags offensively, but they caught fire in the second half. I wanted to ask you as a guy who played for Doug B. It's kind of a microcosm of the season. They didn't start, you know, raging boner status, but here they are, they go. They're rocked up.

Jaguars are rocked up, they're ready to go. They're jagging off. You think they're gonna parlay this into a 12, 13 win deal. What is, what's Doug Peterson like at halftime in a game where, you know, like halfway through the season, what are the adjustments Doug's making? What's his personality like at this point in season?

He's loose, man. Doug's loose. Like Doug, Doug, Doug is all about wanting guys to have fun and compete hard at the same time. Having so much fun and feeling so empowered as a player that you don't even realize he's busting your ass in practice. Like, Doug, I never got a day off, okay? And our camps were pretty physical.

Like, I came from New England, and people make a big deal about New England and how hard it is. Sounds like Andy. Our camps were tough. We were out there running a ton of plays, and, you know, there was contact and all that stuff. So I think Doug's whole approach is, like, stay loose, but then he's really good at after a game like last week,

giving it to you and letting you know, hitting you square in the face with it, that that's not good enough. Yeah, but they didn't start, fast. So I'm saying like, and then obviously something was said at halftime and they were like, yeah, well, it could just be adjustments and that sort of thing. But in general, I just think, I think Doug does a really good job of keeping the locker room. After a game like that, you knew they were going to come out and play their asses off and rebound because of what happened last

weekend, Doug has a lot to do with that. Dallas, Carolina, I know you already mentioned this. Car crash game. Jimmy, Ring of Honor. That's the whole story for me. You know, hearing, you know, through NFL Fox Sunday, hearing what it's like with Jimmy and the Cowboys and how curious that is and all that history that's kind of... And they never disagreed. You know.

On anything. Jerry? So, I mean, it's great to see him get that nod, get into the Ring of Honor, and Michael Parsons, three sacks, another day at the office for him where he's stacking buckets. He's the most forgotten Russia this year, right?

He's the story. He raw-doged a scoop of pre-waters workout. I thought that was going somewhere else. For the first time. I was like this is. Who did? Michael, before the game said he threw up twice during the game. Why don't you keep doing that? No way. And I had posted about it. That's definitely something you see like one of your strong white teammates do in the locker room. And you're like, you know what? I'm going to try this. This guy, he's able to work out. He's able to do this. Let me try this. And that's what happens. You got to be careful with some of that stuff. But also, too, you never tried new things.

like that the day of a game bro never like never the day of the game like do that you try that on practice like because it doesn't matter if you throw up in practice but my set my second year I ended up my second year we're playing the jets it's 100 degrees out it's preseason I'm like let me try this red line stuff red lines like this like I don't even know what's in it it's like crack cocaine and it's basically like and no no I had like you know I always had like four cups of coffee on game day and that sort of thing and the combination of all that and maybe the fifth of Hennessy

at the holiday in in our city when we got home me and CJI you got dressed to go out I never went out like both sleeping my clothes but the next day I had to drive to the hospital because I was having a regular heartbeat and I think some of it was the hen dog what did they say to you when you came in there

they were like severely dehydrated too many stimulants like you need to go you need to go get some rest and then I called the Rams I'm like I need to get some rest and they're like I'll see you tomorrow So I'll just write that down in case I have any irregular. But you got to be careful with these redline. I can't believe they're still making.

Less crack. Yeah. 250 milligrams of caffeine per serving. And I probably was at 600 milligrams on that day. I'm at camp with the Giants connected to New York. This is when OCU Murrah has the five-hour energy marketing deal. He has a box of five hours in there during camp. I forget who it is, the de-leiman.

He decides, oh, it's first. day of open practice. And in 20 hours. I'm going to bang two of these down, right? We get out, we get into two minute drill, start practice. You do your warm-up stuff. Two-minute drill starts. Dude, two plays in a two-minute drill.

Catch the full body cramp. Yeah, dude. In front of the crowd, in front of like five to 10,000 people. Yeah. I've never, like, but this is a huge deal. I forget his name, but, bro, arms and legs full extension out. Like, ah, ah. And like literally the D-Ly-Ly room was like, yo, he took two, five hours.

I've seen that on a plane. Only happens to be on the toilet. I've seen a full body cramp on the ground in the aisle on a plane flight home. Oh, yeah. Never wanted to experience. That's normal. Yeah. I saw a coach.

I've told the story before in college that was yelling. We were down in the bowl during two spot, which is basically like repeatedly, I'll grow being like our two guys, it's like Oklahoma one-on-one. And we did it for 30 minutes. We had a 30 minute two spot period. This is illegal now. Down in the bowl where all the humidity collects down there below the practice field. And we had this coach who was screaming at my buddy Quakou Robinson,

who caught a cramp during two spot. And he's laying on the ground cramping. And all of a sudden, this coach who will go on name comes over. He's like, you kidding me. He's doing all that stuff. You need to get up, which you can never do today. And next thing you know, he starts cramping and falls right down on top of Quakoo Robinson. And there's just a pile of dudes that look like they're getting tased.

It's like the Bill's game. I walked into Amulai. I walked into the training room and these two motherfuckers are sitting right next to each other with IV bags. Oh my God. So, you know, there's always some good cramp stories. Here, do it behind your hand. Who was it? That would have been saying.

The perfect guy. The perfect guy to catch a full body cramp. Okay. So. Yeah. Yeah, the last ugly, and I'll spend a little bit of time on this because Seattle technically is a team with playoff aspirations, but technically is the operative word here because I'm getting to the point where I know what this chapter of the Seattle Seahawks looks like this year. And, you know, we talk about Red Zone, we talk about third down. What are their chances? 53%. Now look at their schedule remaining. And I'm not saying they're not going to go. But they've still got a...

As long as they don't have the RAM. They have San Francisco. Exactly. They have San Francisco. They have Dallas. They have San Francisco the next three weeks. And it just keeps, I mean, like, look at their schedule here. We go pull it up right now. Who's operating the Google? Here we go.

We got San Fran, Dallas, San Fran, Eagles, Titans, okay? Who's their backup? Steelers and Cardinals. I don't know for sure that they win any of those games but the Titans. Seattle's backup? Yeah. Is Drew Locke. Drew Locke, who got some serious work yesterday.

Did not look great. And heroic by Gino to come. come in because I know he was banged up. Donald fucking smashed him. And now he came back in the game and orchestrated what should be a game-winning drive. But here's what really bothers me about this game. Not just the fact that they're bad in the red zone. They kick a field goal up 7-0, up 10-0.

You know, not the fact that they have 200 yards and penalties at one point. Not a bad call, which didn't go their way on Puka in the end zone. That P.I. was bogus. but at the end of the game not the third and two where they got the guy stuffed and it buys another two minutes for the Rams before they ice the game

it's the clock management at the end of that game if Macon was on this show right now he'd be having a conniction because they get the shot to DK Metcalf dude he didn't get whistled down he should kept running

did you know that should keep running he declared you have to confirm this but I'm watching there's no whistle on on whatever I was watching. Well, I want to go back and look, but the point is, even in that situation, you're chasing a field goal to win, okay?

You get the ball at the 40 with 35 or so seconds ago. I guess Gino had a headset problem, allegedly, and says he can't get the play. So what they do is they just hand the ball off. He just decides to hand the ball off. The play was probably going to Drew Locke. They probably didn't switch the channels.

That's actually, you know, a theory, because we didn't know who was going back in, right? They were both standing over there. Maybe the plays we're going to drew. Drew Locke's like, damn, I got to hit it out. Yeah, I'm not even out there. The point is, you've got all this time to make that an easier field goal.

You end up kicking a 55-yard field goal, which was just a knuckle ball, and it was bad from the time it left Myers' foot. He hit it off the toe. You got situational football. You fail at that. Third down, red zone. You're just not a great team in those areas. And, you know, like at the end of this game, you have an opportunity, and you fuck up

the clock management and you fuck up the penalties and the whole thing. So I don't think they're a good enough team to make all the mistakes they do. And until they stop making these mistakes, I don't think about them after the wild card round. I wonder if anybody in the chat

heard a fucking whistle on that. I don't know. Because D.K. Metcalf caught it. He was tackled, but he landed on a body as he rolled. And then he stood up out of the roll, handed the ball to the ref when his six-foot-five frame

should have just been sprinting towards a straight line towards the end zone. Yeah. And then you line up for the field goal and you're like, it's too long. But it's difficult. It's two minutes. They teach you like you got to think about it in his perspective.

If you even think you're down, you hand the ball to the rest. You got to wait for a whistle. But, but, but. You want to hurry up. That's a good point. But at the same time.

But if you thought, think about it, if you get up and run and it was a whistle that maybe you didn't hear, now you're taking mad time. A lot of the clock. But you make a good point.

I hear what you're saying too, though. But here's the deal. In fucking three days, basically, they play. Oh, yeah. They're a trash compactor, the San Francisco 49ers. They're going to crush you. And you're banged up. You play on the road against the Rams.

Gino gets blasted. Kenneth Walker's down. You play on turf, which matters on a short week. You're playing on turf, and now you're going to play on turf again at home. Locket's banged up. Locket's banged up. San Francisco. is going to eat you.

They're going to eat you. And like they're laying seven right now. I already teased San Francisco and the Lions. Thanksgiving, you could tease all three of the favorites. I'd stay away from maybe Dallas. But throw yourself a teaser in there on the Packers and a little turkey for you here, a little stuffing for you.

Put some stuff in this YouTube for you on Thursday. You want to make some money this Thursday? Teased those two. favorites because there's, I do not think San Francisco is losing this game. And I don't think the lions are losing this game either on Thanksgiving. The guarantee. The turducket. I don't do guarantees, Kyle.

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to finish the show and then we'll hit a little Eagles Chiefs preview for a second. Just the tip. I'm going to watch the chat populate. As I mentioned, the Eagles, Eagles, Eagles, Eagles, Eagles. How about those? It's like a bad signal. All right, so let's talk about, well, let's start with that game real quick.

Let's just start with that game real quick. Because, you know, like people want to hear about this game, then we'll get into mentions. Okay. Here are my keys to the game. Run the ball. Couldn't do it in the Super Bowl to your standard. Two, get some tells in coverage when Spaggs is throwing the kitchen sink at you. We went through the coverages last week in the second half of that Super Bowl.

It was everything under the sun. You know it's going to be late rotations. You know it's going to be a lot of this and a lot of that. I think they can still run the ball even without Dallas Goddard. They've shown that in the past. But I think the biggest thing is going to be, can you get pre-snap tells against Spags? Because he kind of won that chess match last year. and Jalen, who played lights out outside that fumble,

I think he's going to play really well off the by, healthy. I like the Eagles definitely to cover. It's anybody's game. What's the spread? Three. Three. Two and a half. If you're me, you buy to three.

Obviously, I'm in on the Chiefs here. I just think that defense is special, man. And I feel like it's their, it's their year to be the story for this team. And these great dynasties, they don't do it the same way every year. They have to reinvent themselves. And they've done that there in Kansas City. Guys who you may not know by name, like Leo Chenal and Karloffes, these guys are having good years for them.

Also the Drew Trankel acquisition with Nick Bolton out. We were really worried about Nick Bolton. He's out a couple more weeks too. We were worried about Nick Bolton being out. Drew Tranquil has done a great job for this defense for Spags. And Trent McDuffie, I think he's going to be inside the slot, the whole game. And there's going to be a lot of traffic there. There's gonna be a lot of traffic.

So McDuffie's gonna have a huge opportunity to have an impact on this game. And the X factor's legurious need. Down the field, who's gonna challenge AJ Brown physically? Who's gonna be the one that goes up to that high point and says, no, bro, you're not gonna just debo everybody out here. That's gonna be the story of the game. All right, so here's one thing I forgot,

and you brought it up because it made me think of Drew Tranquil, and that made me think of he, well, he has played well, but not against the Broncos so much. I thought the Broncos game is a really good look into, how you want to dominate up front for this group. And like they are down, they are down Nick Bolton. Okay, like that is a big deal. I think in the run game is where if you watch that Denver game,

I would look at that tape and say, hey, we can recreate some of this physicality and some of these concepts against these guys because that's where they look like they were flailing. There were a lot of turnovers in that game, but I think you can be physical. Five turnovers. I think you can be physical.

And I also think you can create some turnovers. I do. I think the rush is going to have a good day. So Kyle, I'm going to go. I'm saying five all week. 24, 23 Eagles on a Jake Elliott field goal. I'm going to go. So it'll be a touchdown for Checo.

There's going to be a Kelsey touchdown. So that's 14. I've got Bukker for two field goals. So that's what, 20? It'll be 22. One more field goal. It'll be 27 to 24 chiefs. Okay. And cover for all the Chiefs fans out there in that situation.

I'm on the props because T. Swift is going to be in the building. No, she's not. No, she's not, bro. They lied? No, they didn't lie. You got to get you. Hey, you know what this is? Hey, you gotta come correct. Hold on, hold on. You know what this is? This is my finger on the pulse. Don't you. I have a disrespect. Pop culture, I know it like the back of my hand. Now, she was supposed to leave. But it was hot America. It was hot. Somebody died at one of her concerts. Two people. A few? A few?

Okay. It was a bad deal. So Taylor Swift, being the great person that she is, she did the concert over. She canceled the concert. He said, let's run it back. Let's run it back. I'm not going to go. I'm not going to go to Kansas City. She was going to fly 13 hours.

Her parents are going to be at the game. The parents. Oh, that may. Because Travis's homies with her dad now. Because Travis's homies with her dad. That changes my props. Because I had a prop. I was thinking, Travis Kelsey, plus 110, two touches.

and over six and a half catches. That's what I had if T. Swizzle was in the house. Jerich McKinnon, anytime touchdown. Okay. I'll put it in one of my props. My John Gannon shot, shots, verticals, parlays have been hitting, bro. I hit one every primetime game. Lays off.

I'm going to keep putting them out. Can I tell some? Bro, I've been putting them out. Like, bro, like you weren't even into parlase until I came around. Well, yeah, you're right. You walked so I could run. And I appreciate you. You used to, like, now I'm laughing.

I'm hearing you watch games. And I'm like, the shit that I used to be sitting here saying it doing, Chris is doing. Well, the funny thing about Natives, he'll walk in and, you know, like, you have like a couch on like the Chargers. And he'll be like, or you have a couch on like the Lions. And he'll come in and be like, yes, Josh Palmer at the end of the game. I'm like, what do you have on this game? And he's like, I got a $20 parlay. It pays out $23.

And Josh Palmer scores a touchdown. And I'm like, I will give you $23 if you just stop yelling at me about the other side of this bed. No, no, no, never $23. The funniest moment of yesterday was I'm sitting there at the half. I got a little house money to play with. And as I do, I put in a couple live bets, a couple second half bets. And I sat there and I go, hmm, Panthers, Cowboys, second half totals 20. They scored 20 in the first half.

Cowboys score about 10 points a second half. Panthers even less, right? So I'm like, this is a good opportunity. Good number. And I turned to Nate and I'm like, but the overall probably hit on a pick six from Bryce. And Nate goes, that's hate. That's hate. And I said, Nate, do you remember Indy where he threw two pick sixes in that game?

And sure enough, I look up about 45 minutes later and there's somebody from the Cowboys running into the end zone. He's wearing a defensive number. I said, Nate, do you remember what I said? He goes, no, what did you say? He's got six on the year. I mean, six pick six is on the year, Jerome Blan. Bryce. Some people had the under.

That catch was absurd. The ability to get off the ground and score as well. That's mad touchdown. How many offensive touchdowns? Right. Like it's a freakish play. The catch, he got his fingertips on the football. I think Kenny Moore still isn't like the top two or three guys when it comes to passing touchdowns from Bryce Young.

Yeah. Kenny Moore has two. Wow. Okay. So anyways, let's get to the awards. Let's get to the Miller Light mentioned. you was sponsored by Little Caesars. Pizza pizza.

What's the song they play before Monday Night Football? Way no day for Monday. It's the same. Why couldn't we get stapled and doing Phil Collins on, like, Spotify? Yeah. Do we have that on Spotify? I look for it. It's not there.

I would pay so much money to get that on Spotify. Okay. So anyways. We can record the audio from the show. Yeah, that'd be cool. Just put it on a loop. And play it for our show. Yeah.

Look what we made. Look what we did. All right. So best and worst flights, Kyle, you can go ahead. Fuck. Best flight, Justin Fields. He is him. He is him.

And they didn't win. So he knows that they're closer to being able to retain that pick, that Marvin Harrison Jr. pick. And maybe if they do this thing the right way and they don't win it all. And some of these other teams keep winning. If Tommy DeVito goes out there and balls out, we could be looking at potentially Olu and potentially Marvin Harrison Jr.,

which would be. Catapult season, baby. Or they're going to just draft Caleb Williams. You know, I'm playing the... Yeah, I know, I know. We're doing the one-hand-on stuff. Chris, Chris. If you want to do the unwise thing

and draft the quarterback, be our guest. Did you see Justin Fields yesterday? Okay. I'm going to go best flight. Probably me getting home from inside the NFL tomorrow. Like having a week of vacation, I fucking need it.

I'm losing my mind. I'm just going to be honest with you guys. and I'm sick. I need a prescription. The prescription is losing a ton of money on Thanksgiving and just sitting there with a hollow-eyed look as 40 people run around my house and not moving. It is the one day where you're like,

there's enough adults. Is Meg going to let you sleep in the RV? I really want to sleep in the RV. She was like, so my sister's going to sleep here. My mom's going to be here. You know, like, how do you feel about this arrangement, that arrangement? And I'm like, Dave, I got a Thor motor coach outside

that I am happy to sleep in this entire week. I canceled Thanksgiving. Did you? Yeah, it's just not right, historically. Okay, good for you. Good for you. Wow, wow, wow. Good for you.

No pumpkin pie? What do you? They got fucking Uber Eats. They got Uber Eats. Kyle, I'm going to be eating some turkey. So I'm going on a worse flight now? I'm going to go worse, yeah, worst flight. Worst flight is the Formula One, the entire league.

They have to go from Las Vegas to Abu Dhabi, and they race like six days after the Vegas race. That's a 20-hour flight. Yeah, but you know they're flying good. Yeah, but I mean, regardless. I would take that flight in a heartbeat. You know they have some fucking setup on there, dude. They got an open bar.

They do have their own little bedrooms. And you know they're all small. They're like jockeys. You can basically fit them into, you don't even need an exit row. They just have these little compartments. You know, on airplanes where they pull the plates out and they got all this cutlery in there. You just slide- You slide Mario and Dreddy in there.

Stop, dude. You want a hot towel? You want a hot towel? You can drape that thing around your whole wall. that thing around your whole body dude like just a bunch of little guys on a huge plane best best flight and also you were just in Vegas like yeah but where are you going abu dhabi uh yeah no thanks but maybe maybe one of these like they're always like racing in rome and shit like you know like way cooler they got the life okay worst flights i'm going to give out to the

chargers charges that's illegal by the way that's it's fine you know what else is illegal losing to the Packers. That should be illegal, okay? But somehow a number of teams have found a way to do that. All right. And we didn't do this earlier. I want to do this because we did the whole thing

on Brandon Staley. Good job, Jordan, Love. Looking good, man. Really, really good job. Looking good, man. Don't take this personal that I slight in the Packers. You're not running that preseason offense anymore.

We get to see what you can do. Can you imagine if the pilot is just like this big storm? and he's like, I'm confident. I'm just flying through it. That's what I do. That's kind of the same thing that Brandon Staley does.

So C.J. Stroud does? Okay. You like that pick? You like that? Worst flight, though, is any New England Patriots player returning from the buy? I was just saying,

I forgot about the Patriots for a week. I figured they just canceled the season. You got to fly, yeah. You got to fly, no. They're favored this week against the Giants, and I like it. Okay? So you got to fly back to Foxborough

for Thanksgiving. You've been maybe on the beach somewhere. To the original scene of Thanksgiving. Yeah, it's basically Plymouth Rock. You can go see it. It's not very big. It's actually just like a rock, like a turtle-sized rock. Yeah.

All right. So what do I have? What do I have now? Beville Conway. Beville Conway, it's got to be the Houston, Arizona game. The whites for the cards, the candy red helmets for the Texans. My God, it was beautiful. I saw it promoted this week with, I follow Everett Geerlings on Instagram,

obviously like what I'll do. Man, I just, I saw those helmets in practice all week. I said they're going to look great. I didn't even realize that the Cardinals were going to wear the icy whites. It just ended up being a superpower matchup of jerseys. The cars have improved in that respect. I think Kyler makes it look pretty sweet out there. Beville Conway, I mean, you could go Chargers Packers.

You could go Miami, Vegas. You go Pittsburgh, Cleveland. I'm going to go to college. UNC Clemson. Just a gorgeous game unless you have UNC, the seventh leg of a parlay and fake May ends up just damn don't do that I like him yeah but I don't like him as what he did and then you get one of China's teams Clemson pull that thing out and dabbo Sweeney's like they're running all the seniors out to see RG3 and Davo race save it because

I got something for that coming up in a second okay all right so I like UNC Clemson just the the contrast of those two colors, sexy. Anti-bevel Conway, right? Yeah, go for it. Injuries, the players. They're everywhere. I hate to see it. I hate to see it.

Oh, yeah, it doesn't look good. Injuries. It's not pleasing to the eye. That's good. If I could think of an anti-bevel Conway, I would, but I can't right now. Hollow man. Hollow man. There was a guy at the Lakers game.

I don't know if you guys have seen this. Maybe you can pull this guy up. He's taking a half-court shot for 55,000. $1,000, okay? But there's a plot twist. I was there when LeBron James hugged that guy in Miami for hitting the shot, right? I was sitting right next to that thing when it happened.

This guy misses the shot, airballs it, and it looks like he pops something in his leg. So you get a guy with jean shorts on, laying on the hardwood in front of the Lakers girls, in front of the, LeBron James might be coming out of the tunnel. He's like, who the fuck is this guy? I want the guy from Miami back to hit that half court shot.

The worst part about this is before he took the shot, he's like, I do this. Evidently, you don't do this, bro. Oh my God. Evidently, you don't even exercise. My neck and my back. Can you imagine exercising so little that you hurt yourself shooting a half court shot? Yeah. I saw Jay Williams right in front of me make one in a fucking, I'm still getting tagged in ESPN videos.

Oh, yeah. You know, like, so anyways, Hollow Man, this guy. man this guy. I mean, just shreds something in his leg, hits the deck. What do you think it was? I think he pulled. I think he pulled. I think it's probably a cap pull and I think the guy has never been hurt in his life and he was like, I just blew my ACL. Or he popped his hand in. It's a torn. It's an Achilles. He'll be back. He'll be back. He'll be back for the Christmas games. Definitely putting up shots in like two weeks. All right. Who's your Hollow Man? Halloman, Nathaniel Hackett. It's pretty fucking easy, isn't it? Yeah, it's a scheme.

Seems something up, bud. Seems something up. Kyle, you want to talk about flying the wall. I want to see RG3 after you ran that four or five down the hill with the televangelist at Clemson to prove he could still run and get an NFL job. And they go with Joe Flacco. I'm so glad you and I had the same exact thought.

He's just, he's sitting there watching that on the ticker like, bro, did you see me at Death Valley in a suit? I will play. I've gotten smarter. I'm more advanced. But he does look quick running down. quick but I loved his pitch on his pod. I love it.

It's great. Totally shameless. Marketing 101. The real fly on the wall, though, is when Miles Garrett picks up a helmet in the backfield yesterday. So somebody's helmet flew off and Miles like politely picks it up and he's going to hand it back. Because that's who Miles is, 99% of the time if you know Miles, he picks it up, politely, hands it back to the Steelers and they all converge around him.

They're like, Roger Jones is like, hey, I had a TV in Athens. I saw that thing, dude. you can't you not no you're the last guy we want with a helmet uh in your hand so i'd fly on the wall when he picked that thing up mason rudolph where you at you know the other guys on the team were like oh shit where is mason on the sideline is he yeah okay so uh fly on the wall i try to i try to find a way to make this about miles garrett and his underwear at the podium but i can't so i'm just going to go out. Oh, the underwear thing that Will Compton he did. He said,

wait a minute. Not afraid to point out that you can see somebody's dick. What did he say? Wait a minute. Yeah. Yeah. But when you wear those grays, you get up to the podium. You know what you're doing. Well, I don't know if he knows what he's doing, but I would know what I was doing. This is all fun for miles. Okay. If you have a Ferrari, you drive it around, you drive it around every once in a way. You know what I'm saying?

That's Miles, right? Yeah. Yeah. Miles is going to miles. The reporter is just trying to have dinner on the, you know, Miles Long Garrett. Okay, there we go. STL Memorial. Is that the one we're doing right now? Or best seat?

Fly on the wall right. Best, I want to do, I wouldn't finish the flying on the wall. Brian Dayball probably getting chewed out after getting his young guy to get a win. Oh my God. Oh my God. Mara's just like, hey, bud, what the fuck?

I know, I know. What's chicken cutlets taste good after that. What's that line from the Godfather? When Vito. who was it that like Luke Cabrazzi sleeps with the fish No he said that you betrayed me And then he kisses him

Oh I know it was you Fredo You broke my heart Yeah I knew it was you DeVito You broke my heart We're not gonna be able to piss him Yeah he kissed him and then he's like You're basically dead Michael Al Pacino

Whatever it is Shout out to Jada kiss People are always like When I fuck up some reference in a movie Like it's obvious he hasn't seen the movie I'm like, well, yeah, obviously. I have seen it, but I don't remember it well. That's the point.

Yeah, I saw it at your mom's house. We watched Godfather. Your mom likes Godfather 3. She likes the intro scene to Godfather. After that, she moves pretty quick. My mom loves Godfather. I think Godfather 3, though, a lot of people don't like. I actually think that scene on the steps was pretty crazy.

I don't know any scene. Okay. Have you seen Godfather? Would that the one way he's life? Have you seen Godfather at all? I took a lot of makeup. to look like this. Have you seen Godfather?

No. Golly, that's crazy. We should do a... He just has a dip in. No, he doesn't. He's just... He just turned out. DeVito, you betrayed me.

All right, so the best seat, I'm going to give it to the colleague, Colin Coward-looking Ravens fan who was just out there smacking ass. Effectively in broad daylight. This guy... They found that girl, too. Get a girl.

Yeah, they found the girl. At first, I didn't even see the dad. They were like, look at this dad going crazy. I was like, where's the dad? I was looking at the dad at first. And then I was like, she's actually hot. I was like, good for him. Well, I didn't say all that, but Colin Coward there.

It's like if the Harbaugh's and Colin Coward had a baby, that's this guy. And he totally forgot where he was because there's another guy that's trying to pull him back. Like, don't do it, Dan. Smartphones nowadays. And this guy, he's got the Justin Tucker jersey on. has Justin Tucker range. He's a specialist. You know?

Light me upright. Really, I didn't see him coming up like this, this guy. Have you seen him walking the stadium? I said he's going to have a pretty standard night at M&T. He's a wealth manager by dad. He's still sleeping on the couch. He's still sleeping on the couch from this, bro, because they've got too viral. Can we get him on the pod to check in?

I mean, look at when he first makes contact with the butt. And they look at his buddy like, are you watching this? It's like he was like, I gotta do this five more times. No, it was like the first, the pat is just like, let me see if this is okay. I know it's kind of not. And then after the first couple, it's like, oh, she's cool with it. You touch the stove before you cook the bacon. You're like, is it heating up?

Yeah, it's heating up. Yeah, there's heating on there. This guy. Does he not look like Colin Coward? He does. And Jim Harbaugh. That's racist. No, it's not.

Only if Nate says it. Okay. We don't all look alike. All right, worst seat. Worst seat. Best seat. Oh, best seat. Kyle.

Everyone, tonight, Monday night football, Chief Eagles, wherever it is you choose to watch the game. Oh, yeah. It's an S-tier matchup, dude. It is great. Come on. Come on. Football.

That's it. All right, well, I'm going to give a worst seat. The scene is Corvallis, which I have heard is like Mad Max. Okay, like I heard it's like Starkville of the Pacific Northwest. That was what I asked Steve last week. And he's like, yeah, you know what? It kind of is.

And then cue video of a guy during their night game this week against, I think it was Washington. Steaming piss in the concourse. I mean, the guy is wearing like... Like racehorse. Bro, this guy was so hydrated. It was crazy. And he's leaning on one of these little tables in the concourse.

And there's like a steel beam that kind of separates like all the people that are huddled around this little table. And he's got his hands on the table. the table and he is just dropping urine. It's like a fire hose. There's a steam cloud coming off of it. Those people have steam

burns from this guy. Look, his family's just hanging with him. The guy throws a cup at him. The people on the other side of the fucking table don't even know he's pissing. This is the most covert piss I have ever seen. Who's he with? Oh, he's done. Look at him.

And so somebody in the comments when I retweeted this was like, this is these passive aggressive Pacific Northwest people to a T. Like nobody's doing anything about it, which I think is like almost like a political statement. It's funny to me that everything is like that. But like, what do you want these people to do, man? You're going to cost the guy? That's a hard situation because what do you do?

You go over there and like you push him. He's a big guy out. That's a good piece. He's pissing on you. He's pissing on other people. Realistically right now, it looks like maybe the people on the other side of the table. They're just getting it on their shoes and their feet, which I guess the fact that they don't realize it. If that piss team gets on my French fries, that's like a liquid to a solid.

But they don't know what's happening. So it's like no. Bro, if you want me to cost a guy who's after a P steam is P. It's bad. So, I mean, like, that was bad. Worst seat in the house, the people that had to watch that. But even worse, the people that had piss all over their shoes and didn't even know it. But what is it say about you that you just whip your phone out and you videotape it?

Not saying I wouldn't have done it either. Scream more. What I would have maybe done was like video. out hey that guy's pissing on you that's all you need to do I would go like this yeah you would have turned into a selfie nice now the pack 12's lost his mind

like we're in like the 25th hour of the pack 12 like it's almost over and I heard a story this week this is from Chris Trevino on X he said and this was at USC I think he said he was on a car he was on an elevator with a coliseum staffer

and they had one of those clear bags you know it was in it a bunch of chicken wings just free floating in that clear bag. People are losing their minds in the Pack 12. Who knows what could happen over the next couple weeks? Let's get to SCL Memorial. I'm thinking about changing my Twitter name to Kyle at X. Kyle at X, that's good.

You want me to give my STL Memorial? Yeah, I was just, you gave me a great idea. Okay, good, good. Okay, good. So Tony Bones Adams, Jets, member of the secondary back there for the Jets. So I don't know if you guys saw this, but he's making a play on the sideline and dives,

and he's fully extended, and his hand lands under him, and he gets up, and he's like, oh, shit. And he's walking to the fucking locker room, and they zoom in, and you can see his bone. A knuckle. Sticking out of his gloves. So I want to give the award to Tony Adams' gloves.

They were doing everything they could to keep that bone in the glove, but Nike just couldn't pull it off, but they were working overtime. to keep that compound fracture from being seen by millions of people. But we saw it anyways. And to you hockey players, I ask, when's the last time you saw some shit like that? You guys are so much. When did you see a phalanji sticking out of a CCM?

You've never seen that. Because a hockey player just got arrested for murder. So they have seen. Well, a hockey player did that, didn't they? So we, you know. Why are you laughing, Nate? Because it's just a crazy fucking story. It's a crazy story.

It's a crazy story. crazy sport but this sport might be crazy right there's a guy with a knuckle sticking out of his glove okay and this is a long-standing bit i know hockey players are tough but not as tough as tony adam let's talk about the MVP Kyle yeah let's do it well my scel memorial first jordan love 2740 23 22 two touchdown zero interceptions big romeo i'm gonna give the MVP he's the alpha Romeo Alpha Vermeo. So to speak. I'm going to give the MVP to,

I'm going to give the MVP to freaking. Don't do it. I'm going to do it, Kyle. And by that I mean, I have no idea what I'm about to do. I'll go first. Brock Purdy. Okay, you're giving it to Brock Purdy? I'm going to give it to Joe Brady.

I love it. It looks like he has purchased mixtapes in his day. Definitely. Or sold mixtapes. 100%. Hey, bro. Like, I got this mixtape. Like, you check my music out.

I got stopped by a guy leaving work one day that stopped his car. It was like, yo, Chris. And he threw me a mixtape out the window of the door. He did kind of look like Joe Brady. You've been in a time machine? Here's a mixtape. There's a mixtape, bro. It's a compact disc.

We also said Joe Brady looks like seven kids that we played baseball with. 100%. Kyle, that was a great point. Something wasn't computing. Joe Brady looks like a guy who played AAU baseball in high school. In Virginia. Like, yeah. Anyways, this is Fax's viral moment of the week.

We're here. So it was tough this week. But I am going to go with Stanley's marketing team. Stanley the Cup. They decided to burn a car and have the only thing left over in this car is the Stanley Cup. A Kia. And they had a lady. And the ice is in it.

And the ice is still in it showing that the car burnt how great it is. I don't think it was a marketing scheme, but the lady just showing her car being burnt and then grabbing her Stanley. That was a marketing scheme. That's what I think. They flipped it into one. They flipped it. Yeah, like, Bravo to them after the fact, seeing this and seeing how much steam it got.

And everyone's like, yo, look at the Stanley. So has ice in it. So they went. You want to put out that fire. I was one of those legendary pisses. If that guy would have been there when this car was on fire. Right? Been able to put it out.

So the marketing team or the Stanley, the company, they decided to pay for her burnt car. But deeper thinking, I think this might have been just a perfect marketing scheme top to bottom. I just don't want people to get this twisted. Somebody Kamus in our chat said, Kia hate again, L.O.L.

There's no Kia hate, bro. It's not hate you. I have said on occasion. I've said on occasion. Look up Kia. boys. I have, and you would not want to buy a Kia

anytime soon. Once you see that. I'm just saying this. All right. I sell fucking Kia's. All right. Ashley Shea for BMW. All right.

But here's the thing about Kia's. They almost look like Jaguars. They almost look like Mercedes. And almost is good enough for me if the alternative is spending $100,000 on something to depreciate. Kia tell you ride. You know what's crazy?

You know what started here? You know what started Kia's being really, really, like hot and popular. No, it was Blake Griffin jumping over them. Yeah. That's crazy. They had a steam since that happened, bro. The one he jumped, that Optima he jumped over, just like you're saying.

You're like, is that a Jaguar? That car looks like a luxury, nice car. You're about Blake Griffin. He jumped over a Jag. No, that is still a river's car. Hit me in one. All right, guys, I got a quick ad read, and then we're going to hit the road here. Monday is still game day, and game day is the perfect pizza day.

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again on Wednesday. These guys bust their ass all year long. We're in here till fucking 2 a.m. on Sundays, crunch and tape, Nolan, me. I text these guys at one in the morning as if they're at work all the time. And they never complain about it. Reads in here, night shift every night, solo, dolo. Love these guys. Thank you. And thank you guys, man. This has been a lot of fun this year doing this live show and you guys both make it a lot of fun and to have guys that played the game in here 3d knowing what's what and we can relate to the conversations we're having i think it makes it awesome so i appreciate you guys and i want to thank the fans the people in this chat there's still a few people in the chat you guys have made this thing go we decided to go live we hope to keep doing it but what we

need you to do is tell your friends if you can bring two three people in the next week's live stream that's what's called compounding interest or something. Yeah, I told some of my buddies, and they've been in my ear on this text message, talking shit about our Bill's takes and our, we love that. That's what makes it great. Every Monday we want to come and we're talking to you guys. Tell your friends, and we really appreciate you, the listener. I don't talk to you guys enough.

We love you. Even when you hate our takes, it's still fun to go back and forth to you guys. And we had good vibes in the chat. We had a couple people. The QB school was in here, loving our takes. You gave a shout out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really?

He gave Kyle a shoutout, said Kyle is hilarious. You talking about, what's, JT. O'Sullivan? I think so, yeah, yeah. Hey, by the way. JT, shout out. You know him at all? I do now. Buddy, he's got a great channel.

A great channel. I mean, he just, when I want to know something for sure about confirming what I think about a quarterback. Does he like C.J. Stroud's interception in all the end zone. Hey, J.T. I think it's an ill-advised throw. I love it. I'll check back on your YouTube channel this week, but JT's great. So thankful for all you guys.

Have a great week. We will be back Wednesday with the preview this week. Happy Thanksgiving, too, man. Yeah, happy Thanksgiving. I canceled an hour ago, but we're back on. Yeah, we're back on. The only people thinking about that are the people grinding the PC acts. But I think Thanksgiving is one of the best holidays of the whole fucking year.

And I love being with my family, including this guy. Not that I think we're going to be together. Hey, tell your friends. Come back Wednesday for the preview. And Friday, we're going to have a special show. I know you guys don't listen to a lot of shit. the day after Thanksgiving, but give it a whirl if you want some fun. I think Dr. Fax and maybe Bo. I think I might be joining too. Really? Not sure yet. For tomorrow's record? That'd be

great. Yeah, I got to work some things out at home. Okay, good. Cheers.