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Episode Date: November 20, 2020

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Thursday night time machine. I mean, does it even matter if I get a win? Like, am I mathematically out of it? Am I going to the Waffle House? What has to happen? Nah, bro, you can run the table and win, but I'm holding up the Jordan. Dot gif-gift-jiff.

Yeah. Six to one. Fuck it. It's far away. I'm going Seahawks 30-26. This is getting a little nutty. What'd you say? Seahawks, 31-26.

Congratulations. You won. Congratulations. You won. I don't like that because I really want the Seahawks to win. I have money on the Seahawks. And now I've got to worry about this stupid fucking game with you and hope they don't win by so much. You have Seattle by one, two, three, and four points.

You have them by five. I got them five plus. Happy Friday, everybody. I'm your host Chris Long. This is my esteemed co-host making Gunner. Hello! That's your new thing. I don't know.

I know that's how you're making that your new thing. Yeah. I like saying it like that. You should. It's good. It brings the energy up. And it sends it right back to you. I don't have to come up with anything witty to say. Nah. It's just a weird voice. Let's talk sports. Modulation thing. Okay. Yeah. Let's talk about my New York Knicks. Is anybody more back than the Knicks? Yeah. Almost everybody else. That's a college player you drafted for a professional team. I know. People are like, we could have used the guard that early. I don't even pay attention to what's going on up there. I'll be back when they're competitive. but I like Obie Topin, the player. I like Obie Topin the name. I like Obie Topping the player. If only he played defense and was athletic.

You know, here's the thing about Obie Toppin. Have you heard he's from New York? No. Yeah, he's from New York. So all that pressure on his shoulders, it's definitely not going to crush him to the floor. Imagine being from New York and getting drafted by the Knicks. and plot twist, the Knicks are terrible.

That is a terrifying, terrifying prospect. Fortunately for the entirety of Obie's life, the Knicks have been terrible. I know, but I'm just saying you would rather than be good and just plug into a well-oiled machine. The expectations are going to be crazy, but he doesn't seem afraid, or maybe he was just drinking last night,

he doesn't seem afraid. Enough MBA, we talk about it so much. I do want to shout out water boys, our clean water initiative. We just launched a women's initiative last night, water for her. And we are really excited about it. We've been working on it for a long time. So go over to the water boys' homepage and check that out. Water, the acquisition of clean water, water scarcity, all that stuff.

When you work in that space, you realize that it is a women's issue as much as anything. All the burden falls on the shoulders of women and girls. in countries like Tanzania and hundreds of places around the world that the citizens struggle to find clean water sources that's dangerous for everybody involved. But women and girls are the ones that have to trek. And oftentimes these tracks are five, six hours, dangerous, dangerous trips to gather water that's often unclean. And consider you know how much you love your children if you're a parent.

And there is no love like a mother's love. Okay, so moms out there, if any moms are listening, God, I hope you didn't, you weren't here for the Nikki Laser pod. But if you're a mom, imagine going and getting water for your children that you're 50-50 on whether or not it's going to make them deathly ill. But it's your only choice to survive. And you make this trek and it's incredibly dangerous and you're missing time, you know, launching a career, being just a member of society, being a parent, being a white,

being a loved one and for the young girls that are accompanying women on these tracks, they don't get to spend time in school. And so not only is this dangerous, not only is it an inconvenience, not only is there a ton of time loss, but if you want, and there are plenty of studies that show this, your community to thrive and push forward on a ton of different levels, women around the world are the biggest drivers. So empower women because it's the right thing and empower women because that's a way forward for a better life. And we're going to try to do that through our Clean Water Initiative, Water Boys.

So check out Water for her. We just launched it. And to all the ladies out there that listen to this pod, I know we don't address you enough, but thank you so much for listening and check out our new initiative. Very well said. yeah waterboys.org go to programs you'll find water for her very easy to navigate and your dollar goes mighty far mighty far so today we're going to have mark sanchoge squanch i talked to him earlier

where you were slinging mLS and it was a lot of fun he puts you in a good mood man he's he's a he's a great dude i always knew that about sanch we'll talk to kyle long in a bit uh who's going to join us after squanch they lived together at one point so he's also a big mark Sanchez fan. But he was really on point about some of the ways that the Raiders beat the Chiefs the first time around. We talked about that game coming up this weekend. Also, Colts Packers is one of my favorite games of the season. A lot because I don't know who either of those teams really are. You know, their strengths have not been tested respectively. The Colts defense hasn't been tested by a plethora of great offenses and vice versa for the Packers offense, not being tested by

great defenses. So strength on strength. And I've got some really interesting tidbits. on where I might lean and maybe you should too if you are putting that game on the books. So Colts Packers, Chiefs Raiders with Squanch, as well as Justin Herbert's haircut, which you've seen at this point. I haven't. You might be surprised to learn that I haven't seen something.

Raw reaction, making Gunner on Justin Herbert's haircut. Oh no, you see, I like that a lot. You do? What a dynamite hairline. He can do whatever he wants. It's an eraser haircut. He's got a great hairline. It's almost too good. I used to tease Nate Gary about his hairline.

His hairline was like approximately three inches above his eyebrows. Herbert's got the same thing going on. It's kind of an eraser, like, you know, a number two pencil eraser. He has just enough room between eyebrow and hairline for me. And I like he's done the, are we calling this a fade of some sort? It's a fade, which he throws very well. I like it. All right.

So let me ask you this. You could have Buddy's hair line for the rest of your life, but you got to wear that haircut like you're going overseas the rest of your life as well. Or you can have your hair or my hair. You know what I mean? And we're both fighting quiet battles. Just holding on the follicles as hard as we possibly can.

Good for this kid. I mean, I'd take your shittiest haircut. This is the haircut that set the internet on fire yesterday. I'd take that in a heartbeat. I concur. We wouldn't have to worry about wind. the rest of my life. I can just feel it right now.

The airflow on that haircut has to be awesome. Like the parts that get faded, the air just hitting the side of your dome like air on the temple. That's right. That Southern California breeze on the side of the temple. And that can gray easily.

That can become the Anderson, Cooper, Ted Danson sort of deal. Yeah. Every day of the week. They keep blowing leads like that. That's just going to be gray in a heartbeat. Maybe this is going to be the thing that pushes them over the edge.

Or maybe it's going to be playing the Jets this weekend. Speaking of blowing leaves, you blow a lot of leaves? No, I don't blow a lot of leaves. They're starting to break me. Yeah, but it's a whole cycle. The leaves fall and then it turns into like compost or something and then like goes into the ground and feeds the plants and the, you know, so I just kind of let the leaves do what they do.

Anytime my lovely wife tells me, which she doesn't, to blow the leaves. Would you know how to blow a leaf? Do you have a leaf blower? Yeah, you just press the button and. And you have one? Yeah, we own one. Oh, yeah, we own one. Okay.

Yeah. You know, if things get really bad, maybe I'll go out and blow a leaf. Right. It's pretty calming to blow leaves. No, it's awesome. It's great. But they are relentless. I love blowing leaves.

I just go out on my porch and blow leaves. Having a bad day, just blow the leaves. What brand of leaf blow do you have? Black and Decker. Wow. Yeah. Pulled that out of your hind quarters. Yeah.

Anyways, we're going to talk about Justin Herbert's haircut as well as, especially with Kyle, the big fight this week. You got Tyson Roy Jones Jr. in a couple weeks. We had Joe Judge Mark Colombo, two of your favorite coaches up in the Meadowlands. NFC. East champs. Allegedly, possibly, allegedly, likely, allegedly. Definitely. Definitely.

Coming to blows over, you know, some day. big measuring contest that goes on daily in NFL coaching circles. Like if you, and we'll get into this with Kyle, coaches are always on edge and they're always just so fucking like, like they're just, I don't want to say insecure. The NFL makes everybody insecure. So coaching is no different. I don't know if maybe the Colombo share that we talked about months ago, you know, he overshared a little bit about the first round pick and the media ate it up, but Joe Judge probably didn't like it. I don't know what the tension. was, we'll probably know more as time goes on, I would have paid to see that fight.

Mark Colombo's a big man. Does one room have a more on-edge coach than another? Man, I don't know, it's just whoever's room is not faring so well. So that makes sense in this circumstance, right? Right. Giants not a bad football team. They got a lot of fighting them. That's what we say every week.

And evidently there's more to that than just the football field. So we're going to talk about that with Kyle Long after Squant's. comes on because we're gonna do probably what every podcast around the country is doing this week at some point and that's picking winners in a battle royale, a Mortal Kombat Bloodsport type tournament between all the NFL head coaches and a look ahead to maybe the biggest match over the weekend,

Kyle Long and myself duking it out for second to last place in our Seville gentlemen's football league. That's right, the Cucks and the Gauchos. Doesn't get any better than that. Cucks and Gauchos, ratings are going to be through the roof. Listen, man. Battle for the basement. Reminder, and I can't eat both these elves this year.

If I have to spend 24 hours in a Waffle House losing this little Thursday night time machine bullshit. It's not little, and it's not bullshit. Okay, but there's nothing scary about spending 24 hours in a Waffle House. It's more the embarrassment of losing to you picking games because, admittedly, you don't watch all the games. You know, like, and I'm studying my ass off, maybe I'm studying the wrong things. Yeah, I watch very few games. So there's that. And I'm last in my fantasy league,

which I got off to a rough start day. I didn't know the rules. I'll have you know I'm on a winning streak since I'd learned the rules. What are the buttons? What are the buttons? As you used to say, when we play FIFA and you wouldn't play well.

What are the buttons? I learned the buttons and I'm on a tear and I am catching my brother Kyle. We're tied now. The loser of the league has to go on a billboard outside of Charlottesville, Virginia. And that is not something I want to happen.

I'll take five waffle houses before I take that. So without further doing, Let's get to Squatch, followed by Kyle Long, and then we got a mailbag at the end. You know how those go. For those of you cool kids, Greenlight Hipsters to stick around for that. You won't be disappointed. So I got Squantch here.

He's back from Mexico. No. No more. Squanch. I got Squantanamo back. He's back from Squantanamo Bay. And he is going to be talking football here with us. Dude, the Herbert haircut.

Did you see it? Oof. Yeah, I thought that was like rookie hazing. I thought you're not allowed to do that. It's something bad. He looks like he's going, he's getting deployed or something. You know? Yeah, that looked a little jar-heady.

It looked a little jarhead. Like he was in one of those movies with the, yeah, there was a movie. Jake Gyllenhaal. Jake Jolenhall. Yeah. Doesn't look quite as good on him, does it? Uh, it'll, listen, the best thing about, about a bad haircut, you know, in about a week.

It's fine. I don't know. He kind of got the whole faded thing. Maybe two weeks. He faded it and all that stuff. That might take a little longer. Squanch, have you ever had a bad haircut? Yeah, dude, I got my haircut by Matt liner, Frosty Rucker, Reggie Bush, my freshman year at USC.

And they use these old rusty clippers. So they're like pulling my hair out. It's like grabbing the hair follicles and ripping them out. So it's kind of like when you pull a nose hair. like your eyes start watering. Oh, it's the worst. So then the guys are like, yo, he's crying. What a bitch. And I'm like, dude, I'm not crying like wiping my eyes. Dude, I just got tetanus. I like, what do you mean? I'm crying. And also. It was bad though. It was embarrassing. For a good month, guys would, you know, remind me about it. Reggie and Matt will still tease me about

it every once in a while. Do we have a picture somewhere in the archives? Oh, yeah. It's awful, too, because I'm, I'm explaining something to someone and I have my hand on my hip. I have like a half shirt because it was hot. Oh, yeah. And I'm pointing kind of like this. Every time it's hot, I cut half my shirt off, Mark. You know, like... Dude, it's so bad. It's the most embarrassing. You'll find it online somewhere, I'm sure, but...

So you brought up nose hairs as an aside here, a sidebar conversation. I just got a terrific nose hair trimmer on Amazon Prime. It's like a game changer. It's like I clear cut the forest in there. But then I started reading about the fact that, you know, nose hairs are useful for a lot of reasons, including... It's like a filter. You're stopping germs from entering your head. You know, like, so where do you stand on nose hairs?

All or nothing or somewhere in between? Somewhere in between. I try to live a life of moderation. But essentially, if I could do a diagram here. If you do a clear cut in a pandemic, I was so excited. And then I read an article. I was like, man, I feel like I'm breathing better. I really clear cut these suckers.

And then it's like COVID is looking at my nose like it's a snack. Oh, dude, you're like a runway. for the COVID airplanes. I don't like that. You saw NFL coaches gotten a fight this weekend or this week Columbo and Judge.

I don't know who won, but Columbo got fired. So a physical fight? I hear it was a physical fight, a fist of cuffs. And who broke it up? Jason Garrett? Listen, you know how it is

when there's a fight in an NFL building? The people outside never hear the truth. So like they're saying there was no fight, et cetera, but a lot of people are saying there was a fight and then Colombo got fired. Wow, because I know him and Garrett are tight.

I mean, Garrett elevated him there in Dallas. Yeah. I know. Joe Judge wasn't having it. He's, I mean, Joe Judge is a fiery guy. I just, coaches, you know how it is. It's so stressful in losing locker rooms. I don't think people understand the conflict that's waging every day, like interpersonal conflict in a building.

But Colombo's a big guy. Colombo's a really big guy. He used to be in a heavy metal band. a big Boston dude he's like oh is he a Boston guy oh yeah yeah colombo you might not want to toss it with columbo he's i mean all Boston Boston people are angry but i'm just saying columbos seemed like oh boston feeling down if you're on a bar or something something went sideways like he's kind of one of those guys you want on your side i'm pretty sure he's been on i mean i'm pretty sure he's been in that situation you know like at one of his metal concerts

they used to have a heavy metal band with all the cowboys o lineman and he was like the front man. You mentioned he's from Boston, so he's got the inherent angry gene, and he was in a heavy metal band, which makes sense. And he's coaching for the New York Giants. You add all those things together. You have like an anger smoothie. And then on the other side of it, you've got Joe Judge, who's a Philly guy. So you know he's gritty. He's coached in New England. And I would have paid money to see that fight. But it always ends with somebody getting fired, and it's never going to be the head coach. So I never saw an actual fist fight between two coaches, but I will say I've seen a fight or an altercation physically between player and coach

before. I won't say who, but I have seen, yeah, oh yeah, juicy stuff. Maybe we'll put that behind a paywall. My favorite thing was my rookie year, Rex gives us the talk about, hey, you know, this is, what time meetings are. He's giving us the orientation because we went up to SUNY Cortland for training camp. So he's, you know, showing the map of the place and explaining where, you know, the training table is and all this kind of stuff. And then he's like, all right, let's go get a snack. And then he stops everybody, sits everybody back down. And he goes, I forgot. One last thing. Three things on if a fight breaks out. I don't recommend it. But if it happens, here's what we do. And I was like, what? And he goes, number one, if I see anybody out there without a helmet on,

you're ejected from practice. If you take your helmet off during a fight, you're ejected. Number two, if I see you punching anybody with the helmet in the face, you're also ejected because that's stupid. You're going to break your hand. And he goes, number three, find anybody with the red jersey quarterbacks, Sanchez, gets your pretty boy ass out of there. If anybody is fighting with a quarterback, you're also ejected. So strap up, no punch into the face, body blows only, and get the quarterbacks out. Okay, now let's go get a snack. You know what?

There's a way to fight, though. And I love the fact that they were protecting you. I think those are universal great rules. And I think it's also great that, like, effectively, he basically said if there's a fight, you basically can't fight. Okay, like you can't take your helmet off. Yeah. Which is stupid.

It's stupid to take your helmet off in a fight. You're inexperienced if you take your helmet off in a fight. Two, you try not to hit anybody with a helmet on. I've done it before. I punched a guy in Carolina so hard because I blacked out. And luckily I didn't break my hand. I got ejected. Like, it's stupid to punch people in the helmet.

And then lastly, just don't touch a quarterback. Those are all really sound things to preach. But I will say this. When you talk to my dad and in the 80s, in the Raiders and the 90s, like, fights were really bad, he used to tell me, like, before football practice all the time, all right now, if there's a fight out there, like before the start of, like, my first NFL camp or college camp, here's what you do. You yank down on the face mask, yank up, and then just throw uppercuts. So there's a wrinkle to Rex.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's been done many a time. There was a little wrinkle there. Let's go Chiefs Raiders. Okay, let's get back to the real football. This is one of my favorite games of the weekend, and the first one did not disappoint. What did you see in that first game as to why the Chiefs got beat?

I thought a lot of it was maybe a little bit of lightning in a bottle. I don't know if I see that happening again. You know, the Raiders won 40 to 32, and they hit some deep shots. You look at that game. I think Carr went for, you know, 3.20-something. and was essentially playing out of his head. His yards per attempt were really high.

So a lot of that happened on a couple of third in longs, which was uncharacteristic for teams to give up these huge plays. But they caught him in quarters a couple times. And what they did is in like two receiver sets, just through something in front of that quarter safety to make them slow down just a tick. And then would run rugs or Aguilar deep, either on a post or on a go. and it's just one on one with the corner and the safety's trying to recover late, right? And they had some of these huge, huge plays.

And then one other time they caught him in man to man and just rugs just took off down the field, essentially. They caught him in a blitz look to, just like a three deep three under and beat the safety over the top. But it was almost like they had it dialed perfectly, right? Everything went their way that day. The chiefs weren't quite as explosive. And that's like an off day for the chiefs, right? Scoring 32 points only. That's crazy.

So, you know, it's indoors. There's no weather, you know, no weather, no fans. I think it's going to be a fast chiefs team on that turf. And then the Raiders have some serious COVID issues on defense. So I could see it potentially being a high score and a fair again. I just don't know if the Raiders can keep up this time. Yeah, I agree. You know, I thought the Chiefs lost for three reasons,

because I had to talk about this on NFL Next this week. and I think number one, you hit on a big one, and you understand the why better than I do, but I had Derek Carl was money on third down. Okay, like you mentioned the rugs bombs. There were two big, it's different than carpet bombing. It's a rugs bomb. He had two rugs bombs.

One of them went for a score. You mentioned that one. You had the Nelly play, which was not on a third down. But even that third and 18 late in the game to Renfro, that's like that's like a backbreaker if you're on defense with the game on the line down one score you know like at the 40 and you let them convert on a third and 18 that haunts you and that turned that turned the game into 11 point ball game so third down was huge it was huge and that's a good point what's what's funny is they played that essentially um the defense at seattle made

very popular that like three up player so when you go three by one essentially the most inside receiver, the third receiver running that deep crosser and four verticals. They have somebody deep for him and somebody underneath. Well, both guys stayed at right around six, seven, eight yards, and both of them kind of were hanging in the area of the cheese, the tied end over the, over the ball, and then Renfro ran right behind it. They had the guys. They just miscommunicated the defense. And I mean, it should have been, they had them dead to rights. They had the right call. And the Raiders should have been empty, but they just blew it. They just. be a man, not a coverage.

That's a backbreaker. I can remember my most embarrassing plays in football was when I had any hand in a third and extremely long, crucial conversion. There was one in Tennessee, 2018. It was one of our many collapses with that Eagle team. And me and Mike Bennett ran a game, and we didn't have it run exactly right as far as bouncing up. Ryan Tanhill scrambled for the first down. I'll never forget that as long as I live. And it was just a game, just a regular season game. But that shit is haunting. Number two for me was time of possession. in the second half, and of course they were tied at 24 at the half, which the Chiefs might have something to say about, you know,

letting the Raiders back in that ball game. 20 minutes in the second half to nine, the Raiders dominated time possession. Jacobs didn't even go off that day. Let's couch all this by saying that the Chiefs, to your point, were explosive. They out gained it by about 100 yards in total. Here's the main reason they lost that game, my opinion, Mark. They didn't put them away, okay?

If you remember, they were coming off that New England game where they had 323 yards of offense. It was very like what's wrong with the chiefs. They came out smoking like a team offensively that wants to write that ship immediately. They were up 14 to 3. They were up 21 to 10. They didn't put them away.

They ended up tied at the half. And that's the thing is like, if you can get that game to three scores, it's over. They had a touchdown call back on an assembly hold and they got inside the five and settled for three. So these are things that like they don't put them away, a division rival, and then they're in the second half and they're in a dog fight and they get dominated in time of possession.

I don't see it happening. I got the Chiefs 3423 this week. Oh, nice. Yeah, what do you got? I like that call. Yeah, I'd give them 34. I think it'd be maybe a little bit closer. I'll go 35,

3524. Oh, okay. So it's, USC is not a math school because those are both 11 point wins. So we're parking our cars. We're parking our cars. I'm good with 11.

garage here, bro. And the chiefs definitely have to take care of business because they get the bucks, dolphins, and saints, three of the next four games. And those are the only remaining non-conference games. They finish with the Chargers. And you remember that game. By the way, have you ever been involved in something as petty as driving a bus around a stadium after a division rivalry win? Did you see the bus thing? No. Where do you get all these cool clips? Like, who gets these for you? They don't get it. I just watch TV. I watch you on TV. I watch shows like... I'm on like Friday, so all this stuff, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, like...

Well, here, let me tell you, let me tell you what happened. So after the game, and there's been some like soundbites of this and back and forth between Andy Reed and John Gruden, and they coached together too, like way back in the day. Oh, yeah. But like, after the game, Gruden and the Raiders took a victory lap in their bus around Arrowhead. And Gruden blamed it on the bus driver saying some petty shit about the Chiefs and the Raiders rivalry. That's pretty petty. I'm pretty sure you played for Rex Ryan. You've done some wait. Wait, wait. Hold on. Hold on. The Raiders take a victory lap around Arrowhead.

Yeah. And it gets back to Andy Reid and it makes news. And Gruden blamed it on the bus driver. Like he didn't know. No. When he got on the bus, evidently the bus driver said some slick shit. Like I would imagine it would be something to the effect of like, well, you finally won one. Didn't you hear or something like enjoy this one or something? Which bus drivers are never supposed to supposed to say those. You know how like... Yeah, right? Even the hometown bus drivers,

they have like your hats on. They wear your hat. So like at that Chiefs game, he would be wearing a Raiders hat. Yeah, it's talking shit to John Gruden. So he's just like a total imposter. So, okay.

I guess they, in response to that, Gruden probably said, and you would do the imitation much. Hey, man, let's try. Let's take this thing for him. All right?

How about you take a little victory lap here and soak this one in, Arrowhead? Huh? How about you shove that up your ass? saw me? Hey, where's the horn on this thing? I want to honk it. Hey, but I guess my question to you would be

you've been on some petty-ass teams. Okay, Rex Ryan, his middle name is petty, like, in my opinion. And I mean that a compliment, because it's mine as well. Have you ever been a part of something as petty is doing a victory lap? No, I mean, we did a lap after each, after

our last home game in MetLife, like physically. Yeah. And the last home game in the Giants Stadium because we won that game against Cincinnati that put us in the playoffs. So we did like this playoff lap. But nothing like directly at the other team other than when we would play, wherever we would play. If we win, Tony Richardson or one of the vets on the team would say we would break down the team and the home. And he would say and the home. and everybody would say of the Jets.

Like you own that stadium that day, whether we are at home or on the road. I think that's fair. And we would say it awfully loud, especially like when we beat New England in the playoffs or you beat a team in the playoffs on the road. Like that's as loud as you can say it. And you get even like, you know,

the beat writers trying to say it. Like everybody's like screaming. Yeah. So, you know, some of that stuff is just emotional, you know, victory stuff. But I can totally see Gruden in a back. forth with a bus driving. They're like, hey man, why don't you, hold on, man.

Why don't you hop off that bus there? I'll drive this thing. Yeah, you can see him doing it. Did you ever hear this story? When we played the Washington football team when they used to be, they used to have a racist name, we went up there maybe a year or two after RG3 got drafted. And if you remember how RG3 fell into that spot, it was because we traded a boatload

of picks. Jeff Fisher received a boatload of picks. to allow them to take RG3 in that spot, like four or five guys. And a couple of them were good players. A couple of them, not so much. But Jeff Fisher before the game, I was like, hey, man, you know it would be funny

would be if you trot out all the guys that we got in that trade to the coin toss instead of me and, you know, James Laronitis and somebody else. And I thought he would just laugh. Did he do it? But he fucking did it. He did it.

Oh, wow. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Rex used to do that. Anybody who had any connection to the team we were playing would be a captain that week. Yeah, but if you played for, but these are guys that,

these are guys that, but this was more like, hey, look what we got for your quarterback. This was like kind of a twisting of the knife. But at the time, RG3 was still rolling, so I didn't think,

also the 283 diamonds in the 28 to 3 Super Bowl, Robert Kraft was pretty petty for that. Yeah. That's some petty shit. Yeah, I mean, those kind of things are just like,

that's a part of the game. Like, it's a part of the game. It's just, you know if you're mad win the last laugh kind of if you're mad win twist the knife a little bit and if you're mad win and it always comes back around right unless you lose unless you leave the game on top

it always comes back around I wonder what kind of petty shit the chiefs are going to do in Vegas this weekend after they dent that defense and I am not slandering there's one guy I'm not slandering and that's Max Crosby love him to death but they do have some COVID issues and they haven't been great as a team on defense

again we talked about the chiefs needing to take care of business going forward probably my favorite game of the week is Colts Packers. Me too. Me too. I got some great nuggets on this one. Oh, I love nuggets. I love squants nuggets.

So I hate you. Oh, man. This is my farewell episode on Greenland. Shut the fuck up. So essentially, I'm just looking at these teams, and it's Green Bay, seven and two. Yeah. Elite offense, average defense, or middle of the road. defense, right?

Inthuriating. Colts, elite defense, middle of the road offense. And the Colts last week, they play Tannahill and the Titans, right? And they made them look pretty pedestrian, right? Just very blah, vanilla. Tanyhill entering the game had like 110 quarterback rating. He gets just crushed for an 83 rating, which is significant. He's averaging 7.5 yards per attempt.

He gets crushed for 5.4. yards per 10. So they put it on them. That defense is legit led by Xavier Rhodes. But all of their stats going like the major categories that matter for a quarterback completion percentage against their defense, they're ranked fifth. QBR against their defense, they're ranked first. Passing yards per game, they're ranked second. So any like legit category that you'd rank a defense on playing a specific quarterback, you're like, oh, these guys are legit. They're going to crush you. Well, you look at the teams they've played. Yeah.

Okay. The quarterbacks they've played. Minchu, Cousins, Mayfield, Burrow, Darnold, Stafford, and Lamar Jackson, all averaging under 100 quarterback rating. So now you're like, other than Tannahill,

are they legit? Flip the script on Green Bay. Exactly the same thing, but their offense versus the defenses they played. They're coming in with one of the best rated offenses in the league. Aaron Rogers playing out of his head on his scored shirt tour, But look at the teams they played.

Other than the Tampa game, who was ranked ninth on defense and Rogers had a rough go, they played the Vikings twice, the Lions, the Saints, the Falcons, the Texans, and the Jags, all between 24 and 32nd in total defense in any kind of like legitimate defensive category stat. Right? So they beat up on the 49ers who were ranked 11th, but they were already decimated at that point. They're depleted squad-wise, right? Personnel-wise. All their guys are gone.

So now you're like, this is their first test. This is their first legit test. And is Xavier Rhodes going to potentially try and travel with Devante Adams? Are they just going to zone these guys off? Like, what are they going to do on defense to stop Aaron Rogers? And then it's no secret anymore that opposite of Devante Adams is Marquez Valdez Scalding. Like this guy's becoming a legit target for Aaron Rogers. He trusts him.

He's back from injury. He's ready to play. So now they have two legitimate targets. targets, what are they going to do? And, you know, I don't know, can the Colts establish a little more of a running game like they did last week, get this thing rolling? Green Bay Packers is not the best run defense. I mean, there's so many, they're really like little storylines going into this one. They're frustrating. Dude, I think you hit the nail on the head. It's really close to call because of the resumes, right? I mean, like, these are two teams that I'm not like sold on.

Right. Am I kind of sold on the Colts defense? Do I trust? them. Yeah, I trust them because, you know, like their offense hasn't given them much. And complimentary football, we're about to talk about the best defense in the league in a couple of minutes. So, I mean, that factors in. Like, when you're a defense that's not getting a lot on the other side of the ball, that can implore you to play tighter and better. But at the same time, you have to be on your game because there's no margin for error. Okay. This is a top five offense versus top five defense, regardless of the resumes, which is very valid. number one passing rate leader versus number one passing rate defense.

And you've got two Hall of Fame court. Well, is Philip Rivers a Hall of Fame real quick? I believe he is. I mean, he's got to be, right? It's a resume thing. It's not like, you know, he didn't win the Super Bowls, but he's right there in all the big statistical categories. Yeah, and all the major categories he's right there.

It's like, you know, a lot like Dan Marino, right? Yeah. I mean. And I would say Marino was, was unquestionably the better quarterback, but to the same effect, I mean, there are a couple guys in the hall who never got that ring. So, you know, Philip Rivers is a huge chapter in the story of that legendary class, the last 20 years of football. I would say he'd get in. It's not going to be quick, but I think he's like statistically much better than Eli, I would assume.

Yes, he is, he is. And Eli's going to go in because of those two Super Bowls and two amazing years. I don't think they should look at the Hall of Fame as either or. It's either how were you in crunch time or it's just purely stats? Because there can be criteria for two different guys. It's like the Julian Adaman conversation. People are like, oh, Jules, some people are saying Jules the Hall of Famer because it's just playoffs.

Well, I'm not ready to go like, hey, like if you just played well, if you were just elite in the playoffs, well, you might have more opportunities than you get in the Hall of Fame. I'm also not ready to give it to some stat packing dude, you know, that just hung around a while. But Philip Rivers- You could find the counter to all those. Like Tony Gonzalez didn't play any playoff games except like one. Yeah, so what? So then he's not a Hall of Fame. You know what I mean?

If you use that criteria or that's the threshold or whatever, that's tough. I think he's in. So you got two Hall of Fame quarterbacks, most likely. But I will say this. When you look at it this year, one of the most interesting narratives has been with, with the lack of OTAs in training camp, that offenses have had an advantage. And that goes for young quarterbacks

who haven't seen a lot of time, which surprised me. That goes for a historical rate of comebacks of over 10 points. That's been crazy. So all this stuff about offense is kind of having the advantage this year in a really odd year.

On top of that, and I like this nugget here for you, Mark, is since 2000, number one passing rate offense, versus number one passing rate defense favors the offense big time. 10-1 offense. I'm still surprised at that. I am surprised at it.

And another thing is, like, there was something else, you know, I got in the stats department. Rogers has struggled late in the year after week eight versus number one defense. Well, who wouldn't? And the two defenses that we mentioned, that they mentioned there were the Seattle defense in 2014 in the playoffs, one of the best of all time, and then the Denver defense in 2015.

I wouldn't. Yeah, that's like, you know, team struggled versus the 85 bears. No shit. No shit. Those guys were legit. So I think the Packers win this game. I think they probably win this game by about somewhere in the seven to four points range.

If we're doing the odds maker thing, I mean, it's been pretty, it's been kind of a pickum and it's gone back and forth between the Pack and the Colts. Here's what the Colts have to do to win this game. The Colts have to be better on third down. They've got to get Pittman going,

which last week's been great. He had 100 yards last week against the Titans, and he's a big target for Phil. And to be fair, Phil hasn't had the targets, the people to throw to, get the ball to Heinz. That's who he's been throwing the ball to. Nahim Hines, dude. That guy can play.

Leads a team in receptions, and guess who gives up a lot of yards in the passing game to running backs, the Packers? Yep. So you got to do that. And that's one of those things. Like they'll cover Mike Petten was with Rex a lot. They're okay letting you complete balls underneath and rallying and tackling as long as they don't give up the big ones.

And eventually, you know, they'll fool you and you'll miss downfield. They get a tip ball interception, boom. And okay, things are going the right way. But they'll give up some of that stuff underneath if you're willing to take it. Now, Rivers being so damn competitive like he is, as long as he doesn't go out and have like a three interception game, this thing's going to be tight. I think a field goal decides it. But I think a lot of it's going to depend on their run game. And if I'm indie, establish that run.

That's what you got to do against these guys, man. Get after them in the run game early and stick to it. You know, just make it a point. That's what you got to do. And your point is great about, you know, Rivers taking chances. Him and Aaron on throws under 10 yards this year. Statistically, they've both been money. But the difference is when Phil's Aaron the ball out down the field,

whether that's decision making or obviously there's a difference in the arm talent, it hasn't been the same. So if you can as Green Bay, speed things up. And I think a big key for them is you've got to jump these guys. If you can jump these guys, if you can jump these fucking guys, keep blitzing. The last three weeks, there's been an uptick and pressure and it's worked.

Make Phillip Rivers push the ball downfield. And if you can, as the Packers, do the one thing that I have no faith that you'll do and that stop the run, you could run away with this game. But I think it stays tight because Phil and those guys live underneath and can keep moving the ball, at least a few. efficiently and keep this thing tight. What about Adams and Xavier Rhodes? Because Rhodes was getting killed in Zimmer's defense the past few years. And Adams has had a big advantage. Do you think it crosses over when you change teams or like, you know what I mean? If I'm a guy who used to beat up

on a player and then he's on a different team, does it matter? Yeah, I looked that up because he was, you know, essentially their bell cow on defense, even in Minnesota, but he wasn't having the production they were looking for. Then he gets to Indy and he's got to interceptions, 10 pass breakups or whatever. And he's playing his ass off this year. So some of it is for sure scheme. But a lot of it might just be a new fit, new attitude, playing free, playing excited, had a couple good plays early on in the season. And that just gave him a little momentum moving forward. Maybe he's matured a little bit. Whatever it is, something's working there. And that's going to be huge because he's going to need it. I mean, Devonte Adams is playing so well right now.

they just thrashed the Jaguars. The score didn't really indicate the game, but these guys look good, man. You know, Rogers and him, if they get clicking, and especially if Valdez Scanling can ball a little bit too, that could be curtains for Indy. So where do you put Adams, and I hadn't done the math on this either, the best receivers in the game right now? The guys, obviously, we're talking about Hopkins who made the big splash play last week. D.K. Metcalfe. I mean, Odell's always got to be discussed, but he's out right now. And Devante Adams is garnering the respect.

I think we had this big narrative that everybody in Green Bay was ass and, you know, no, Aaron had nobody to throw to. You know, there's some good players up there. You mentioned MVS is stepping in nicely, but I got to put Devante Adams in maybe the top three receivers in the game right now healthy. Easily top five. And 100% there's an argument for top three with him, hop. gosh Pulio

I mean Mike Evans Mike Evans looks good you know A B talent wise we know he's there is he going to have that kind of production and that could take three four or five weeks

Oh I love the guy in Chicago Alan Robinson He doesn't get enough credit Yeah he's kind of underrated Yeah he's in that five to ten range Yeah which is damn good because there's a lot of good receivers I'm going to put Devanti Adams right there

in the top three the way he's been playing I mean, he's... Go ahead and do it. I'll second it. Yeah, fuck yeah, dude. It's official. Congratulations, Devante. We'll send you the hardware for being dubbed the top three receiver on the Greenlight

Pot. So do you like the Packers? I'll take the Packers by a field goal. Oh, nice. Okay. We're on the same page on a lot of this stuff. Mark Sanchez, everybody. I appreciate you coming on, bud.

Some nice nuggets today. It's good to fill in the quarterback gaps with your boy here because I don't know anything about the guys under center. You got it, bro. Thanks a lot, dude. Catch you soon. Yes, sir. Sounds good.

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1-809 with it. So that was Squanch. Make, I told you Squantz was good today. Love Squanch. And I love that we keep calling him Squantch, even though he's corrected us that it was Squantch back in the day. Squantz sounds so much better than Squantz. Way better. Kyle, did you know this Nick, Kyle Long's here with us now?

Kyle, did you know this nickname or your old roommate Mark Sanchez? Squantz. I had heard it. I had never referred to him as Squantz or even crossed my mind to refer to him as that. It's not one of those things I thought about. Well, maybe he didn't let you in the circle. Maybe he let us in the circle. I had heard it though.

Maybe Dow Loggins. Dow Loggins might have called him Squanch. Maybe. How was he as a roommate? Because he gave you, he didn't give you shit. He just gave, he gave me the scouting. Sanchez was as good of a roommate as you can get. I've never been to Europe, but I can imagine there's a whole lot of more.

Sanchez is walking around. Just great guys. Helpful. Super into like, oh, I bought you wine and cheese for the evening. Have a great time. I'm going out with friends. But as a roommate, man, he filled up. I have a wine fridge.

in the house I sold in Chicago, and he filled it the first week of living there. Because I told him he didn't have to pay staying at the house. But sounds like he's an alcoholic. Well, he was like, look, this is all I could think to get you. And it'll last you a long time. It was like the first real gentle. It was like a real gentleman move on his part. I had never experienced that in the league.

It was like a true act of kindness. Yeah, that's, man, talk about like, yeah, when you do stay with somebody for an extended period of time. You always want to put your best foot forward and usually come bearing gifts, but if you're an alcoholic, you bring three boxes of wine. And he's a, he's a foodaholic too, because he would always get us food. There was never an empty table at the house. Man, he's killing it in the media, and it's always great talking to him. You came up a couple weeks ago, so I had to give you your day in court to talk about him as a roommate, and you were nothing but positive. So, squant's passed the roommate test. Kyle, you are a

here to talk about NFL coaches fighting, but also, more importantly, you're here to talk about the game of the week. Yeah, the game of the week, which I'm really rapidly coming to find out is the game of the week, is the Ivy Gouchos, which is my fantasy football team, taking on Chris's Liberty Cuckolds. I'm three and seven. He's four and six, which puts me in 10th, him and ninth, and the loser of this game will be in solid standing to have a, what is it, Chris, a, Bill. Yeah, so, and Kyle, life comes at you fast. It sounds like I just realized.

He was almost in low. Austin Echler has been in my starting lineup for the last, God knows how many weeks. Well, Austin Echler's hamstring exploded. I saw it happen, and that was in September. So maybe want to just, you know, tap Echler on the shoulder and get him a cart, maybe. He's been sitting there. He's been waiting to get rehab, and you've got him out on the field. I'm trying to drag him to I are, but I can't.

figure out to do it. It needs ice and stem. Instead, he's just fucking watching all these digital points being scored right in front of his face. Like, what am I doing here? It turns out the Patriots defense slash special teams is not as good of a move as it was last year. I didn't pay attention to the fact that

everybody packed their shit and left the Northeast. Yeah, they had some COVID. That's on me. They had some COVID opt-outs. And that's on me. But needless to say, it's a big game this weekend because of the thing you mentioned, you mentioned the billboard. That's the boogeyman. There's a bunch of

Charlottesville dads that are checking under their bed for the boogeyman. They're checking under their bed to see if they're going to be on that billboard. That's what they're afraid of. That's what's keeping them up at night. And the billboard is going to be right... Where is it? It's right outside Charlottesville and it's going to

the last place. By the airport. It's going to... It's by the airport. There's a lot of traffic. It's a lot of traffic at the airport. But what if it's Kyle's mug on the billboard? I might do too, Kyle, because I think it's important you maintain a presence in Chicago. They love you there.

And I think the rest of your life, they're going to love you there. So I would love to put a big billboard. Just let those people that love you know how the fuck Kyle Long is doing right there in Chicago. Right by the, right by Rigleyville. It's marketing 101 guys. More, more eyeballs on your face. And that's what you'd get. That's what we want.

And how will it read? So here's what we talked about in the group text, which I have no problem doing when I lose. And I wouldn't want to put somebody out, like, to be honest, like, put somebody out in a terribly embarrassing way. Actually, I'm going to be, because I'm a big brother, if you go on the billboard, I'm going to be more worried about it than if I go on the billboard. You know, I just wonder how Kyle's doing. I hope he's okay with it. I hope. Well, now that I know the password to the Ivy Goucho's database, I'm able to hack into the mainframe and get out of 10th place.

So starting this week, I've doubled down on the Raiders. I've got Derek Carr in for Carson Wentz, thanks to Macon's guidance there in the break. Josh Jacobs as well. It doesn't matter. You're going to lose. I want to tell you something. We're going to crush you guys.

The Liberty cuckolds are going to enjoy it because we're going to pound them right there. We're going to pound them. We're going to pound them. They get to watch. It's going to be great. Nobody pounds the cuckles, man. Nobody doesn't like the goutges. I can tell you that much.

Not in our house. I was invited. I was invited here. our own house, okay? Not in our house. Are we the home team this week? The galchos will be the home team. Oh, okay, we're good.

We're off the hook. Kyle, I was going to say, here's what's going on on the billboard. I wanted to look like a straight law firm, like mid-budget ad with the kind of like high school

picture background, Marks and Harrison. You know what I mean? The suit of your choosing and I'll pay for the photographer. right and you know it's just a picture that we're both going to agree on but here's how we can really flip the field Kyle let's say in some hypothetical situation neither of us come in last place and Mike Lewis comes in last place right every everybody wins if Mike Lewis is on a billboard in a

suit absolutely all right so making you want to take us through the the lineups here yeah sure um First, I want to make clear that there will be a loser no matter what because tiebreaker comes down to points. And the cucks are at four and six. The galshows at three and seven. In terms of points, Chris, you lead Kyle by 25. Makes sense. All right. That's nothing in fantasy football.

Overall, so like, you're talking points. Like, points a player could earn in a weekend. Correct. That's just one Austin Eccler day. at the office. Okay. Awesome. Get the fuck off the couch, bro. You gotta play this weekend. Yeah. Somebody check on his hamstring,

see if they put it back together. I love the image of Carson Wentz handing off to Echler and Echler like pointing out his hamstring being like dude, I cannot, I can't move and then just falling over into the line and scrimmage. I was totally on the

for zero points a game for the last six years. I can't even see Carson Wentz's arm because it's in a Cammo sleeve. He's just running on one leg repeatedly the last month and a half, just stuck in the matrix. At the moment, and this could change because Kyle's made more moves in the last 10 minutes than he has all year long. Really? The quarterback matchup is Herbert versus Derek Carr, as Kyle mentioned. Running backs Josh Jacobs and Daryl Henderson for the galchos. Going against Clyde Edwards Aller and Jonathan Taylor, you've remained loyal to your rookie backs this year with the cucks. That's right.

receivers for you, Chris, Juju and Curtis Samuel for Kyle, Adam Thieland, Deontay Johnson. Kyle's tight end is Tyler Higby. Your's is Austin Hooper. Just this week. At the flex spot for the Cucks, DJ Chart. Oh, there's been an update.

Devante Parker. For Kyle Cooper Cup, James and Crowder. Pat's D and Chris Boswell for Kyle, Brown's D and Joey Sly for the Cucks. And what change have you now made Kyle Long? I moved the adult looking TikTok star

Cooper Cup to my receiver spot instead of the flex just because I feel like his points should earn more. He's earned that. Like just medicated. He just earned it in three seconds. Now, ESPN.com is projecting much like a CNN would.

A 133 to 125 victory. A 134 to 122 victory for the Liberty Cuckold. That's right. Damn. Kyle, it's over. You might want to arrest you. You might want to arrest your players the rest of this week, Kyle. I don't know if you know that this is how fantasy works.

The longer they sit in your lineup, the worst it is for your players the rest of the year. So you've already lost the game. May I say something? Okay, Chris, now I'm going to put you in a weird spot because I need help for Sunday's show and I need some help for the Sunday versus Philly versus Cleveland game.

Okay. How do you think Carson wants is going to perform Sunday versus Cleveland? Shiddily. That's Macon talking. I think he's going to be better, dude. I really do. So I should move him back to the starting quarterback? Yes, I've been pretty straight up on him, though.

Who's your other quarterback? Derek Carr. Oh, no, Derek Carr's going to do more numbers than Carson this weekend. Okay. But Carson's going to, in real life, going to have a better game. Carson didn't have that bad a game Sunday. We never talked about it. We didn't.

May I ask Kyle a question that could be construed by you as tampering because I'm going to talk to him about his lineup? Yes or no? You can say no. I'll stay out of it if you want me to stay out of it. You want me to stay out of it? out of it. I care about my brother not going on that billboard, even if it's to my detriment. Yeah, I'm making. Come on. Give it to him. He can't even hear us. He can't even hear us.

We're taping Thursday afternoon. I am literally on the line. I would just like for you to consider a guy who's questionable for this evening, Tyler Lockett, who you have on your team. Are you fucking kidding me? But on the bench. Bro, you just gave me the green light. Well, I didn't say, like, tell him Tyler Lockett's on the bench. Well, he knows Tyler Lockett's on the bench. Yeah, but he doesn't know what that means right now. His team is struggling. They don't know. They don't know what the,

Hey, look at it might not go. So Kyle could be making a shrewd decision. This is tough. I also heard. Because all these guys have decent amounts of points, and he's only two points higher, but he's got that cue, and that cue is a scarlet letter in this league.

That's well said by you. This is like talking to two kindergartners and a, excuse me. college. Excuse me. And we both Econ 101 class. We both have podcasts, man. So maybe put the hazmat suit on and take the Uber down there to the chalk studios. What if he beat you up in that hazmat suit on?

You want to beat somebody up so bad. You get to you get a fucking, what movie did they wear those in? I just think of the breaking bad scenes. Contagion. I just think of Walter White in the desert. Yeah. Hopping out of his van. You'd be down here in five minutes.

So yeah, good luck to you, Kyle. Sorry, bud. Tyler Lockett can't save you. It's a Thursday night game. We've all had the cue by our name. It happened last night, if you're listening now. So we had a fist fight this week in an NFL building, Kyle. And it happened between two coaches.

Have you heard about this? I've heard rumblings of this. Fist of Cuffs, a little Donnie Brooke upstairs. I've heard there's non-conflings. confirmation, which to me leads me to believe that there definitely was some shit that went down. What's in question to me is,

did Joe Judge pull the upset over a 6'8 dude who used to be in a heavy metal band and is from Boston? No, no way, because you know what? He wore 75 for the Bears, and he was a huge motherfucker. And I'm

just thinking of the rage that all O-line coaches have when they're, especially on a bad team and you know they never they never want to have to go upstairs they never want to have to go upstairs and take their issues upstairs or have to deal with the coaching staff especially the higher ups and they're always doing bitch work for the head coach yeah when there's when there's that interplay there and there's actually beef i can only imagine what it looks like spilling over with a six foot eight 330 pound frame of mark colombo like freaking the fuck out because that's like

Do not freak the gorilla out. He looks like a guy that you would see at a slip-knock concert. He wears those rainbow Oakley's, like, you know, one of those guys that's at a softball tournament, you know. Listen, I'm not, I'm not doing it. I just think he probably beat Joe Judge up, who Joe Judge is a tough motherfucker dude. Joe Judge. Joe Judge is a Philly dude, man. Joe Judge, I love Joe Judge, man.

I really do. And he, and he's a good coach. But it's just, it's like, it's a. size, you know, he's got the length, he's got the reach. And he listens to Slayer, so that's a tough matchup. It's a tough draw.

No shot, no shot. Do you listen to Slayer make? No, I don't know what that is. But let's stick in the NFC East, Chris. Yeah. If you like Joe Judge so much, yeah. Do you like him coming out of that division

with Doug Peterson, Ron Rivera, and Mike McCarthy? Nah, I like neither of those cats making. The guy I have coming out of the NFC East here is the riverboat. Riverboat Ron. And how old is he at this point? 57.

I think he might win at 57. And we're talking about right now, right? Not in their prime. Correct. Right now. Ooh, he's 58. Not bad by me. This guy's a tough motherfucker right now.

He's battling cancer coaching in a pandemic. Ridiculous. He's always had tough teams. And they have them listed. per his wiki right now at 6.3-235. Ron Rivera reminds me of our dad a little bit.

Quiet, scary. Square jaw. Just like really good dude. Like, I'm not going to count Ron Rivera and his good heart against him in a fist fight. He's got a great heart. He's got a heart of gold. But he would drop any coach

in the NFCs. He's got that look about him like he's seen some shit that might be last generation shit. He's bigger than we think. He was 85 bears, I think, and like absolute monster. I got Ron Rivera. Do you have Ron Rivera

out of the NFC's cop? Yes, because I don't trust. I don't trust the other ones. I can't put their reputation on the line for a fight. When I know that Rivera's, you know, he's been there, done that physically. Small trust. Let's go. Okay. NFC North, fascinating.

Matt Lefleur, a guy who says he doesn't care how you pronounce his last name and Matt Nagy Nagy Nagy Mike Zimmer and the Detroit Lions coach the pencil it's it's Mike Zimmer tucked squarely that's what I was going to say it's Mike Zimmer man like listen if we're doing this kind of like Mortal Kombat and they all have a finishing move Kyle

Mike Zimmer is killing you with a crossbow no doubt about it guys got all all types of dead animals on his, on his wall. Like just crazy. We'll sit in a tree stand at four in the morning in Minnesota, I presume. How cold do you have to be? He perpetually looks cold. That guy will fuck you up. Mike Zimmer out of the NFC North.

There's a whole class of coaches that we, that are just, they're out, dude. LaFleur, McVeigh, Taylor, although McVeigh is a stout individual. I just, I'm grouping all these young, wonder boy wonders is what they're calling it this is the boy andhan yeah shanahan the boy wonder weight class defansky like you know the vans wearing coaches right now um they're not we're formalities so would you rather be a matt or a mike i would rather be a mike

matt for sure you would rather be a mat yeah matt is just the name i can't get down with man what's your beef with mats let's do a deep dive into this because you're a Matthew. I mean, I know some tough Matthews, but Yeah, but Chris is Tofer. Chris Tofer. Yeah, I guess you're right. So, like, you got to, you're your distant cousin.

Matthew is your weird cousin. Well, Kyle, Christopher means the Christbearer, so I didn't know you hated God or God's not. That's not what I said. Roxanne. No, I don't think we're going to rock sand that, Kyle. I think people need to know that you have issues that need to be addressed. Isn't Christopher?

I mean, isn't one of your dads? middle names Matthew? Yeah, you're right. It is. His first name is a Matthew. And you picked Mike and he picked Matt. I would rather be a Mike for sure. I think he has Matthew and Michael in there.

And I stand by. Like there's Matthew Slater. Matthew Slater is a badass. When I hear Matthew, the first thing I think about it in a tough dude. And not that that's how you pick your name, but I just don't care for the name Matt. Yeah, but like plural mats is Matthews.

And there's some tough motherfuckers name Matthews. Yeah, like Bruce Matt. Matthews. Yeah, plurality, Matt. Yeah, but they're pretty tough. Would I rather be Matthews or Mike? NFC South. Sean Taiton, Bruce Ariens, Rahim Morris, Matt Ruh. Uh, Hayton. Rahim Morris.

Matt ruled Bruce Ariens. Uh, I'm going Sean Peyton. Rehnev Morris is old school, though. And he played too. I'm going Sean Peyton. I just feel like he just, that motherfucker's always so comfortable making the same. super confident face. Like, people like that scare me.

Like, what is he so confident about right now? He just knows shit's going to work out. And he'd be the same way if he was going to fight you. He'd just have that like, I'm not like, I'm not even going to blink. My thought is Bruce Ariens is one of the characters from the department. Remember the guy who's like, I'm the guy who says who you can and you can't fucking punch. Well, that is, that reminds me of Bruce Ariens.

I don't know whether it's the hat that he wears or just the face that he has. he's kind of bulldogish I think he would kick everybody's ass in that division y'all know the group of death generally speaking yeah but you're in the NFL nah okay excuse me what

it's the basketball thing I'm about no soccer thing soccer thing it's a soccer thing world cup yeah okay a little footy huh I'm about to present y'all with the group of life oh okay NFC West Cliff Kingsbury Sean McVey

Kyle Shanahan Pete Carroll Kyle Shanahan reminds me of my younger brother Howie a little bit and I know how he can go like Mighty Morphan Power Ranger very fast And I think Kyle Shanahan

might take full advantage of his superpowers Where are you fighting Pete Carroll Are you fighting Pete Carroll? Are you fighting Pete? Where are you fighting him? If you're going to fight him in the rain In front of kids Because he would never do any violence

In front of children I'm just saying if you get him in the fish market You get him in like Somewhere in the Pacific Northwest, light rain. He's kicking your ass every time, but I would agree. Let's go Shanahan out of that. No, fuck that. McVeigh, dude.

McVeigh is like pre-workout guy, dude. I don't care if he's not that big or anything. He takes a lot of pre-workout. He at least bench presses, you know, like, and does shit like that. Like, I don't think Shanahan lifts weights. Kyle Shanahan would say, hey, McVe, they don't bring a bench press to a fight. I hope you're ready for this shit. think I think I got McVey out of the NFC West.

Okay, Chris, Ron Rivera or Sean Payton? Rivera. Mike Zimmer or Shaw McVeigh? Zimmer. Okay, now I'm going to need you to hold off. That's going to be your NFC final. Yep, yep. Kyle, Ron Rivera or Rahe-Refiress?

Ron Rivera versus anybody. Mike Zimmer or Kyle Shanahan? Hmm, Kyle Shanahan. Okay, all right. that's NFC Wow that is a major upset You've seen his offensive game plan Can you imagine his killing game plan

Change my mind AFC East Sean Nick Let me help change your mind Bill Walsh Wouldn't hurt a fly Okay he invented the Westcoe system Okay so like being

Being an offensive You know mastermind doesn't mean your mind I'm combining his inherent rage and I am going to couple that with his offensive genius and it's going to put together a hell of a game plan to go against Mike Zimmer.

Who I think would just, he'd probably just have a have a beer, run out there, crack his knuckles. I'm just thinking about the equivalent of what the connection you made. I'm just so tickled. I'm tickled by that. AFC, Sean McDermott, Brian

Flores, Bill Belichick, Adam Gase. oh Kyle you got some this is a loaded question but I got B-Flow I do want to say Adam Gase has got a lot of energy you would have to kill Adam Gase twice

if you know what I mean and he's been in he's been in New York coaching with the Jets he's probably on edge right now I think he might be a tough out but I'm gonna go B-Flow Belichick might be hiding in

wait and seeing who takes on who and then attacking when the time when the time is right. He emerges with like the hoodie sweatshirt over his head. Play the elements. F.C. North. Typhoon. Finishing move. Tomlin Harbaugh, Stefansky, a guy named Zach Taylor.

I'm going to go with Zach Taylor and walk him out of the arena. Okay. I'm going to walk him out into the parking lot and I'm going to put him on an Uber. And I'm going to call his parents and tell him that he's on his way home. and I got to go inside and watch some head coaching Mortal Kombat because he has no place in this arena This is a different division. He's supposed to be out in the NFC West with the guys that wear Raybans He's in the wrong division. Give me Mike Tomlin bad news VA His fucking eyes are like wide open dude. He just is always

Ready for action. I love Mike Tomlin. I don't trust quarterback coaches. I don't I don't have Zach in my ring as well. I think Mike Tomlin is a no-brainer and I think it's not even worth our time to discuss who would win in that division. Yeah. AFC Sal. Mike Vrable. This is a heavyweight

matchup by the way. Frank Reich, Romeo Cronnell, Douglas Marone. There's a lot of sleepers in this division, man. This is a fighting ass division. If this division, if this was 1993 in this motherfucker, in the

AFC South. Rabel would be like an 8-year-old, or a 10-year-old or something. But everybody else would be in the prime of their roadhouse days. Like, Doug Moro. Cronnell in a jean jacket and a cowboy hat, just curb stomping somebody. Oh, man. I mean. Roadhouse.

Roadhouse. But Marone is a big guy, dude. Big dude. I've heard stories of. know some people. I've heard stories that he doesn't allow his guys to wear high socks, like, at all. No high socks on the O-line or like black socks, something like that. And he made it a point to be like he would stand, he would stand over there and be like,

you guys aren't coming out. You guys aren't coming out with that shit on. Like fucking stare him eye to eye, like challenge him to a fight? I don't know the deets, but it's like no high socks, period with Marone. Well, I would, I would trot. Don't even ask him. Here's what I would do with, with, um, Doug Marone. I would get Mike Brable of Akron, Ohio, because you know Akron, Ohio.

People from Akron are just like, yeah, I just feel like that's a tough place. Get him in some high socks, trot them out there. That's what I'm talking about. The fuck out of Doug Maron. And this is not, this is. To clarify, Chris, I didn't pick Marone. I was just giving details on the candidate. I'm just telling you how I would get in Doug Maron's head.

But by the way, I think Vrable's a shoe in for the win here, although it would be some interesting bloody battles between these division members. Listen, Mike Vrable's got tremendous reach, and he does push-ups. You see him do push-ups? Have you seen him doing push-ups lately? I've seen him hold a bag.

Who have you seen on TV doing more push-ups in 2020 than Mike Vrable? It's a good point. Nobody, bro. He's getting it in. So I just, I got Vrable out of the division anyways, and the way you play head games with Marone is you get the high socks, man. And Braves is tough, man.

He might compete for the whole thing. I think it's high socks, by the way. It might be black. It might be black socks. If it's not high socks, bro. It might be black socks. At the heavyweight bout, he's going to trot out there in high socks

and be doing like calisthenics and shit. And Doug Maron's going to be like, what's with the high socks? I wish I fucking could remember who told me, like, what the story was. what the story was about Doug Marone and how much of a hard ass he was about this specific thing and it came it came down to a sock thing.

Well, Kyle, I hope you know like this, on this pod things regularly go viral. So you're probably going to go viral. Jacksonville front page. Doug Maron. Neptune Beach. Yep. AFC West. Andy Reid.

John Gruden, Vic Fangio, Anthony Flynn. Chris, this is interesting as well. Say it all again because I was just, I heard Andy Reid and I pictured him fighting somebody. Vin Fangio. John Gruden. Yeah. Van Gio and

Anthony Lynn. This is great as well. We are lucky to be in this league. What a league we have. This league. Fucking Gruden just stabs you with a piece of hooter celery in the neck and you're done. You're done. Just impales you with a chicken wing.

Drives his bus over you. And then he goes, check please. I think Vic Fangio is also a guy we should consider because I've never seen a group of badasses be directed with such grace that when he worked with the Bears defense in 2018 Yeah, he always talked good about him Dude, Vic Fangio had their respect

I don't know what the fuck he did I don't know like what kind of cookies he gave those guys in meetings But they loved him They adored him and they were I guess well-behaved as far as defenses go because you guys were just shit lords in general around the building no no just in general defenses across the league you like o-line is so much more behaved than the d-line and then you can go down the positions and yeah yeah the behavior index has you guys at the top and next to the top you're in the top three with the quarterbacks and the kickers

and they're boring as fuck so but vick fangio definitely a worthy candidate here uh i'm taking Andy Reid. He could trap you in his, he could trap you in his, uh, his son, his face shield sauna. And you would just like, you would just succumb to the vapors. Uh, and Andy Reed, he's my winner. He just, what are you just face to face with him and you can't get out? He traps you. He grabs you. He brings a bigger face shield. He traps you in there. It's like a riot shield. It's like a riot shield. His neck is so fucking strong. He could just hold it up. Andy Reid. I got Vic Fangio, man.

And you definitely don't want to get in the car and let Vic Fangio sit in the back. You don't want to sit in front of Vic Fangio in a sedan, bro. That's a great point. You hear him moving around back there. Hey, why don't come back here and sit right next to you, Vic? Chris, Mike Tomlin or Vic Fangio?

Mike Tomlin, bad news, VA. B-Flow or Mike Vrabble? it's so bad because I love B-Flo and if he hears this he's gonna be like yo what the fuck dude you know they're gonna beat up Braves I can hear him say that right now actually and he's from Brooklyn

he's tough but the size the size of Mike Vrable but I'm gonna go B-Flo because all you got to do is land the right one Kyle same question B-Flo or Mike Vrable Mike Vrable

and Mike Tomlin or Andy Reid this is a heart decision for me you know I think Mike Tomlin is he might be the leader of the pack but I don't know if he's the lead soldier in the pack and I think Andy Reed if you look back to his punt pass kick competition has always been the lead soldier in the pack

and I think I'm going to take Andy Reid in this matchup so Kyle's got Andy Reid So both your final fours are set. Okay. In the NFC, Chris, you're deciding between Ron Rivera and Mike Zimmer. Go back. I'm not buying it. Let me go Vrable.

There's technicality. Vrable wins. No retractions here. It's set in stone. They were giving him the 10 count and he got up. You're now taking Vrabel over Flores. I am. Do you accept that, Kyle?

Yes. You got Rivera, Zimmer, and the NFC, Tomlin Rable Only because you gave me help in fantasy Kyle's final four is Ron Rivera And Kyle Shanahan Maybe it's just the name Kyle And Andy Reid and Mike Rable

Who beat up Ron Rivera In my Nobody Okay got it You got it and now It's decision time Ron Rivera Or Mike Zimmer

Oh Ron Rivera And in the AFC Mike Tomlin or Mike Vrabble Battle of the mics I told you about those mics Man Fucking Matthews How many Matthews you see in this final four?

None. Let me go. Can you look up Mike Tomlin's stats? How big is he? I'm just telling you. It's going to be hard to be hard to be brave. Mike Tomlin is how tall is he? 1.7 meters.

1.7 meters. Yeah, that's pretty tall. And 85 kilograms. 80, 85 kilos? Yeah. You were looking at the same site that I was looking for this information. He's five from five.

Why do people in the UK give such a fuck about Mike Thomas height and weight that they put it on a website? No American websites have Mike Thomas. How many meters is he? 1.75 meters. How many hectares? Okay, he is 5 foot 7 and a half.

No, he's not. I don't think William and Mary is recruiting any 5 foot 7 and a half. That's what 1.75 meters to feet is 5.74. So maybe he's like 510. I got Brable. Because there's 12 inches.

He'd have to be. He'd have to be I mean, I'm not saying. Mike Tyson's not so tall, but I'm just height in this matchup. All right. Your finalist set, Rivera and Rable. Kyle, Ron Rivera, or Kyle Shanahan in the NFC.

I think it comes down to game plan again. No, you know what? I really just tried to picture my, in my heart of hearts, picture Ron Rivera being beat up by Kyle Shannon. But I can't see it. I can't see it happening. I got to go Ron Rivera. It's a no-brainer. Okay.

Okay. A lot of brain power and that no-brainer just now. In the AFC, Andy Reid or Mike Vrable. This is for me. Andy Reid, Mike Vrable. Andy Reid got beat up in the playing game I know I know Mike Vrable's big I'm taking Mike Vrable here I think he uses his reach

to stay out of the death shield of Andy Reed's face mask Yeah it's advisable Okay bros You have the same final Riverboat Ron Rivera Against Mike Vrable I think it's easy but easy

Mike Vrable is my winner Oh that's good because I'm going with Ron Rivera I'm going with the hardened 58 year old who's only like 18 years older than Mike Ravel. Mike Rable played for Bill Belichick, which makes him like dog years. You can age him up there with Ron Rivera.

So their ages are kind of similar. I think all that goes out of play. And I'm taking Mike Rable. It was only one way to find out. I'm trying to drum up a deal in my head pictures that would be enticing enough to convince these guys to fight each other in real life so we can end the segment.

eventually. Who would win a fight between you two? Kyle. I mean, no, I have, no, my body's at the point right now. I'll be very honest with you. Part of the reason I know I can be at the point where I don't want to touch anybody. I don't want anybody to touch me. I do want to say, uh, before we move on to the next topic that I would beat Kyle up. I'll just beat him right up. He would beat him. I would run out of oxygen. How much do you weigh right now, Kyle? About 308. Yeah, he's got about a solid 60 on me, but I got, you know, the game plan, the Kyle Shanahan game plan thing.

Yeah. That's what I got. Yeah. So I'm going to hope, hopefully my game plan is going to keep me in it. So Ron Rivera is my champion. What could we, what, how could we entice these guys to actually fight in real life for the green light pod? You got to get them on a field and then have them do like I know the rule book better than you deal. Let's start a go fund me.

Calling timeouts to avoid. One of our listeners start a go fund me. They should do a jeopardy. Mina Kime should host it. And they should have football knowledge. all that stuff world history Kyle it's been real man I'm not gonna talk to you anymore now

because you know like we always doing game week we just cut each other out of our lives completely until after the football game and this weekend's no different all eyes on Kansas City all eyes on Kansas City Vegas huh Megan yeah if that's the way you're gonna go and Tyler Lockett by this time people know

if Tyler Lockett went for seven for 90 and two tubs or he sat on the sideline and nursed whatever he's got. Fuck you guys. And I'll see you Monday, Kyle. Thanks for having me, gentlemen. See you guys. All right, let's do a quick mailbag before we get out of here.

Make, you liked a few of these. Chris, I liked all of them. You liked all of them. I really like the people who listened to this podcast. Hard not to like. Really hard not to like these folks. Just incredibly difficult not to really like these these men and women the men and women that make up our listenership i like them hard not

to like them is what i say find me one that i would dislike i challenge you to do that all right so the first one is uh is from shana pen uh if you could be any house pet which one and why do you have a lean here yeah it's a dog i figured you would say that I wanted to vomit at the list of house pets I found on the web. Yeah, no, no, I didn't want to go down that road. Like, because there's a lot of different ways you could be a house pet. Who the fuck wants to be a hamster? Right.

That is the metaphor we use for like the most awful situations in our adult lives. I'm on the wheel. Bro, the hamster is on the wheel all the time. Right. Just when they're like. To maintain his or her sanity because they're in a little box with, with shavings of their of poo

poo-infused shavings. Get me out of here, get me on that wheel or I'm going to lose my freaking mind. And the worst part is you see the child's room, you see all the things in the room that you could climb on and you could be out the door. It's a clear glass case. That's like the worst irony of it all for that hamster.

Ran into a fox the other night walking the dog domesticated fox nah wild fox we ran the fox off pretty proud of us proud of you guys man I'm going with a cat though

mate oh you climb on towers shit like that you climb on really anything I mean like cats can sit places that dogs can't look out the window

you get foods in different textures like you don't just eat one thing but you're despised you're not despised my dog Zoe rabbit has a very wonderful life and so I picked dog.

Another thing to consider if you're a dog you have to bark at everything. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, Zoe Rabbit barked once. I said, no. And she hasn't barked since. Now she has some other behavioral issue.

She's very excited. High, high energy, high motor. But she does not bark at anything. She does not bark. She doesn't make noises Is a dog okay? Oh, a dog's great He doesn't bark

I just feel like a majority of dogs inherently feel like they have to bark at everything And then they thus become like The authority figure of the house So if somebody breaks into My house is a dog With a sawed off shotgun Like I would be shunned for running into the corner

I have to go like I have to go bite that guy He's got a sawed off Like it's a terrifying prospect to be a dog You were the first line of defense. You're literally there to be the thing between the human and the intruder. Laura Casera, I like this question because I have a very easy answer here. Me too.

Would you rather eat every meal hot or every meal cold for the rest of your life? On three, two, one, cold. Yeah? Wow. Yeah. Is that right? Of course. You like hot watermelon?

Well, dog, the way I read this question, is I can choose the meal. So I'm gonna, for breakfast. So you're just not gonna eat watermelon anymore. That's right. Watermelon? What a waste of... About half your caloric intake is fucking yogurt.

Fuck off. I'm gonna have oatmeal for breakfast. It's gonna be hot. I'm gonna put some... I love cold oatmeal. I don't even... I haven't heated up oatmeal in 15 years. I don't even really know what oatmeal is.

I don't know that I've ever had it. It's basically cereal. There's no need to even heat it up. I do oatmeal with almond milk. like straight out of the Quaker box. However, I do know that people have it hot, and so there's my breakfast. Oh, I don't know.

Hmm. You want to put some blueberries in there? Eggs. You're going to heat your blueberries up. Bacon, sausage, hash browns. You're going to be going to waffle house. You have all that shit cold? Let's see.

Hask brown is not terrible cold. Would you say eggs? Scrambled eggs are the only food that I could not eat cold. Like I don't like scrambling. I could eat it, but here are things that I eat cold. Made a little list. I eat chicken, rice, steak. I ate a cold steak yesterday.

So I'm going to, instead of that, I'm going to have hot chicken, hot steak, hot rice. But you're going to have to cook all your vegetables, which is okay. But you lose a lot of the nutrients that you need in your vegetables. You cook them off. Yeah. Mike living in a crazy world right here. This is an easy question.

Hot. No, it's cold, bro. Might you be high on drugs? No. Okay. let's see what what else did i have today to eat whatever you ate today i guarantee you it could be eaten cold yeah but it's better hot yeah but there's more foods that are good cold than hot foods like that i can't i i can't go without fruits vegetables you know like i can i can i can eat a piece

of chicken a protein out of the fridge i could eat you don't even get like smoothies anymore man my wife made a 13 bean soup last night. Not one. Have a gazpacho, bro. Not two. Not three. 13 beans. 13 beans.

And it was hot. Yeah, well, gazpacho is just as good. And it was delicious. Gaspacho is just as good. Cold pizza is just as good as hot pizza. I know some people are going to try to reach into the car stereo or whatever you're listening to this shit on and try to pull me out of there and beat me up. That's like a dope. That's a popular dopey take.

Is it really? Yeah. Yeah. I saw somebody get ripped for that like a month ago. Well, it is dumb as hell, but a lot of people say it. Well, I'm not just saying it. Have you ever had a fucking pizza out of the fridge? Like rarely because I don't care for it.

It's gross. Sometimes I'll get a pizza and be like, nah, it'll be better later. Put it in the fridge, cool it down a little bit. Gross. Yeah. It is. is gross to only eat hot food. What about when it's hot and it's summertime?

Good. Okay, you just be eating hot food all day. Yeah. Sweating your ass off. Yeah. In your fucking khakis in sweating with your soup at an outdoor wedding.

Just drinking your hot soup out of a goblet. Fucks wrong with you. Z. Garcia 505. A fight between a Navy SEAL's brain in a toddler's body versus a toddler brain in a Navy SEAL's body.

I want to see the Navy SEAL wake up for the first time after being like a killing machine for years and realizing that he woke up from a surgery where they put a three-year-old's head inside his brain. So who are you taking? I'm taking the toddler with the Navy

Seal brain. Easy, dude. What about you? Wrong again. How? How? How? Toddler brain in a seal's body. The last thing. Savage brains in toddlers. Savage.

Okay, dude. I understand. So I'm, I got a, I got a, I got a killing machine body. Yeah. In a savage brain.

Yeah, but the thing that separate, yeah, the thing that separates Navy SEALs from like anybody else who's violent is their cunning. They're brilliant.

Like any Navy SEAL I ever knew, and this is like you're saying, you know Navy SEALs. I know like two and I know of other ones. They're always like fucking super type A and like geniuses. They're Renaissance men. I know one who happens to be extremely smart. But can't there be unintelligent ones?

No, I don't think so. You sure? No. Honestly, it's in even a bit. I think that like if you, it's like a wonder lick, you got to get a high number to be a seal.

That's possible. I think probably to set your mind to doing something like that anyways, it takes some degree of intestinal fortitude that you would be motivated to become smart. Even if you weren't born smart, you would just will your way to being like Albert Einstein or some shit. And if you put that brain in a toddler's body, I actually have a toddler. One foot seven. You deal with toddlers with regularity? 32 pounds. I've seen yours.

My son, he's a sweet kid. It hurts wrestling with that. kid. Okay? Toddlers can still do damage physically. You give my son Whalen Navy SEAL tactics. I'm not even coming downstairs in the morning. That's the first, that's the first piece of y'ring man. I've been swayed by a touch. Okay. But even if he's rassling around with you and hurting you, you don't think you could you could take over physically with your savage toddler brain and just say destroy. Nah, because he's like spatula and like grabs it and then just impales me with the spatula or like you know knows exactly

where my femoral artery is and like just bites into it and next thing you know i've just bled out t cunningham nine one eight let's answer this question from old tea cunningham nine one eight what's the most important thanksgiving side dish most underrated uh as well please the most important one for me. Mac and cheese, man. How about you? I'm going to say dressing. Is that right? AKA stuffing. Yeah, I've warmed on stuffing in the last 10 years. Yeah, it's sort of newer in my life too. I don't know why I was deprived of it for so long, but I think it's effing awesome. Yeah? Yeah. That's the problem. Have you ever looked at what's in some of these stuff? Yeah, I think it's like a bunch of bread, right? Nah, dude. GMOs.

trace levels of nicotine. Nah. Yeah. Look, on my table, I want the turkey, the mashed potatoes, the stuffing. I need a green bean. And then in my would-be nice category is your mac and cheese, some Brussels, a good roll? I mean, mac and cheese for me, and you had stuffing. So most underrated.

By the way, rolls, I looked this thing up. This was like a highly ranked side. who leaves a sizable amount of room for rolls on Thanksgiving? Yeah, roll goes like on top. It's like the last thing in the line and then you just find spot for it on the top of something else. And then you're just, you're swiping it and gravy. You're talking about bread, right? As you go along, yeah.

There's some butter in that roll. People eat bread every night at dinner, you know? Nah, but like, you know the ones we're talking about, fluffy. They look sweaty a little bit. It's golden brown. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're always under the heat. special special two plums for one at the farm was market and the butter you got to have the juices

and the butter you got to have is the like the kind of melted like a little bit melted yeah like you don't want water we want the hot roll and the cold butter right you want the cold butter I think so but I just said hot foods earlier so I guess I can't I want like cold soft butter is that possible cold soft butter okay yeah you know what I'm saying I think so it's no you know what the butter that oh no it's the butter you get in the pack of it's a diners. That's what I'm picturing. When I have rolls is at diners. That's fine, but it needs to be, it needs to be packaged in a, in a pretty, pretty, uh, I can't be full in a foil thing at Thanksgiving.

No, but say we do the foil thing, but it's that type of butter. You know what I'm saying, right? Yes. So say you get one of those packages. How do you get the butter off that thing? Do you just carefully open it and just slide your knife along the top of the foil underneath the butter? or I rip a part of the roll and then I open the package of the butter and I flip it like onto the top of the roll

where I put the hole and then I slide the top of the foil off so I'm never touching any butter and I just have a mound of butter on the roll I just squant it yeah no I just I just find I make an opening and I just press it into the roll

yeah I think we're saying basically the same thing yeah yeah squash I always feel like such an idiot when I do that I'm glad you do it too Now most underrated I'm gonna go Brussels sprouts yeah Brussels sprouts they're the they're like the socks of Thanksgiving

like when you were a kid you dreaded getting socks I almost got mad at people that loved me when they got me socks like now I love getting socks nice pair of wool socks great when I was a kid

wasn't crazy about Brussels even though I love vegetables now douse them and butter put some bacon in there crispy bacon crispy sprouts brussels sprouts are the most underrated uh side dish need to be cooked well as in properly yeah proper um hmm a lot of ways to go here i'm gonna go off the board and say a uh a salad of any of any sort yeah it kind of brings you back makes you feel like less of a glutton and that you know tomorrow might not be so bad uh food hangover wise it just it grounds you iceberg when no i'm thinking i'm thinking iceberg if you go somewhere in there give you an iceberg lettuce salad like you with the cheddar cheese like with the shredded

cheddar cheese that's barely that's not a salad you're actually it's a net negative right Why do they do like the big wedges at nice steakhouses? I like those. It's the same ingredients as you get at a Howard Johnson, if they have those breakfasts or a continental breakfast, a Howard Johnson continental breakfast, you can get the same ingredients and they flip that shit into a $30 salad at like a Ruth Chris.

It's crazy. Just buy some fucking blue cheese dressing at Kroger, a block of lettuce. You need a knife, cut it in half. Put that thing on the middle of an expensive looking plate, and you can get $30 a pot for that. You're looking at what it costs to get one of those at a steakhouse? Nah, you're right.

I was Googling Thanksgiving salad kale. And first result was a kale salad with cranberries, almonds, and goat cheese. Like, hell yeah, that's going to be my underrated side dish, at Thanksgiving. Oh, cranberries. There you go. I got the cranberries in there.

I hate cranberries. No, me too. I hate cranberries sauce. No, me too. No, me too. I've always hated the cranberry sauce, but that's a way to get it in. Yeah, to get it in there in a kale salad.

Yeah. Nice. Yeah. I might use that or I might just skip it and just get my vegetables nice and devoid of any, any nutritional value and just put some bacon in there. Best Plain Ride. This is from J. Degg-O-8.

This is best plane ride, worst plane ride of Macon and C. Long's career. It's funny because we have a segment called Best and Worst Plain Ride. I wonder if you had that in mine. Nice synergy. What's you got?

Me? I don't really have much. I was going to think about it while you said it. My best plane ride was following the 2019 NC2A championship in Virginia beat Texas Tech and overtime,

85 to 77. Ooh, I was really tired. You ended up sleeping for about 30 minutes. We were on the same bird back. You didn't sleep 30 minutes? You went to bed, didn't you? No, I didn't go to bed. That's the whole thing. Oh, you didn't go to bed. Yeah, I packed a dip and took a nap. I had to be in the lobby at 530A.

Game ended about 10, 11p. And, yeah, kept it rolling with various stars, including... Well, we got drunk with Charles Barkley. Danny Dola? We got drunk with Charles Barkley that night for a hot minute. Charles Barkley, Charles Barkley, Jay Billis, Jay Williams, that whole crew was there. That crew was there, yeah. So I kept it rolling the entire night, 530, roll down. We get to the airport and I don't like flying or airports or anything like that.

My skin is like a bright red, like it's radiating heat to the point where my guy, Jimmy Miller, his wife, Rachel, is like, hey, this looks potentially like a problem. Let me put some essential oils on your person. I don't know if they helped or not. I was just on cloud nine. Somebody gave you essential oils because you were hung over. I wasn't hung over. There was no over. Yeah, but you can be, no, no, no, no. Well.

And I never really got drunk that night. It was just a perfect. When the sun comes up, I guess you're still drunk, but technically you're hung over too. Are you not? It was just a euphoria. I didn't even really drink that much because all the bars were closed. They were. How did we get alcohol?

Oh, yeah, at the bar. Well, Charles Barkley was like, Charles Barkley. Hey, we need some alcohol. And they were like, all right, Charles Barkley. that was the coolest thing ever because you know there's nothing worse than when you want to celebrate and you can't find anything that's open

and you can't find anything to drink or the bars are closed when you get to drink with one of the you know if they ask you hey you want to eat dinner with five people dead or alive like to drink with Charles Barkley's one of them for me and that means we get to get drunk so it's like two birds there

that was a legendary night yeah after a chip and on that plane which dude we had to get on and then de-playing because of some issue and like I didn't even care imagine I didn't even care imagine if if dray doesn't hit that shot in the corner how bad is that flight on the way home oh yeah same spot I always say the same spot that brandon graham sacked uh Tom Brady in the same stadium that's where d'andre hunter hit the shot that uh sent us to OT. And I was on the aisle

on that plane and my two seatmates were the great Terry and Anne Holland. Shout out to Terry and Ann Holland. Just loved sitting with them. It was just the best thing ever and I was I was just I was out of my out of my body a bit.

What feels like three years later we're still champs. We are. Raining champs. Raining champs. Worst flight ever, also in that flight. Yeah, that's probably the worst flight ever. I've got essential oils coming out every four. We've de-plained three times. Yeah.

It's seven in the morning after being up all night. I ate Asian fusion food in the G-gate of the Minneapolis airport like six times that morning. Yeah, good times. All right. We'll catch you all soon. I would love it if y'all took care. Take care.