Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Week 12 Recap. Brady vs Mahomes. Titans/Colts, Raiders Disappoint, Chris' Sunday Awards.
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Aaron Rogers is throwing the ball off his back foot to Adams, like drifting to 15 yards.
Like 15 yards, like a normal quarterback set points like seven yards.
Drift to like 15 yards.
You know what else does that?
Pat Mahomes.
Kind of the same guy.
Like nonchalant piss missile.
Frozen rope, dart, Devante Adams, whatever you want to call it, off his heel, like off the back of his heel,
just falling backwards, like trust falling backwards.
what is going on with his physiology that allows him to throw the ball like this we get bored with it
happy monday morning everybody this is the green light pod i'm your host chris long and i will be
with you solo tonight just me it is late sunday night bears packers wrapping up if you didn't
watch you to miss much but it's just me tonight so i'm going to hit uh
a lot. I'm going to hit COVID. I'm going to hit, you know, Adam Gase. I'm going to talk about the
Packers win, the Titans win, the Chiefs win. The Bucks loss is what it feels like. That's like the
news when the Bucks play. If they play, it probably makes more news when they lose, honestly.
So we've got to hit that and what that means and what it means for Brady and Bruce Ariens
and why it isn't working as easily as we thought it might at somebody.
point this year. And we're going to pass out some awards as well. And we'll bounce around the league
when it comes to that. There is the Isaiah Simmons hit. We'll touch on that. We'll touch on
Denver, New Orleans. Snuck that in there behind the Bucks Chiefs game. I was really excited
about watching that game and I quickly learned that it is really hard to watch a game if there's
actually no quarterbacks in the game. And that wasn't like a bonump-bump joke about Tase
Hill. I'm just saying there was no real quarterback playing that game. We'll talk about a lot of stuff down there. A couple of college awards we're going to hand out today, actually. Some college players made it into the segment. So Thanksgiving was last week and gosh, I'm putting that holiday. I'm not trying to Monday morning quarterback this thing. I'm putting that holiday number one. I'm not trying to like overreact and do the first take thing.
with this holiday,
but this holiday is pretty great.
And the stock is only rising
as a retired football player
because I mentioned this last week
and I had the pod with my dad and my brother
and I appreciate you guys' input on that.
Everybody's seeing the feedback.
It seemed to be great.
It's fun talking to my, you know,
part of my family,
you know, the football guys that you know
on Thanksgiving.
I'll have the rest on another day.
My dad's a great storyteller.
Bo Jackson stuff, the whole nine yards.
I could tell you,
you guys leaned in for those the way
I've seen people lean in for my dad's
best stories. My dad will just one up you
with the stories. They're just unbelievable.
I feel awkward telling stories around my dad.
I'm like, he's seen some shit, dude.
So I hope you guys enjoyed that.
But, you know, like Thanksgiving,
we talked about this. My dad, Kyle, and I,
when we, as players,
it was another workday
kind of a lot of times. Or maybe you got the day
off afternoon or whatever, but usually it fell on a workday.
God forbid you were playing.
away from your family and that sort of thing.
And people came in town
because they felt bad for you
because you were kind of like all by yourself
and that sort of thing.
Like, hey, listen, every holiday is a good holiday.
But, you know, football,
Thanksgiving can be a little bit lonely.
And I remember Whalen had his first Thanksgiving
in Foxborough.
You know, my family's all over the country.
It was just me, Meg, and Whalen, you know, in 2016.
And it was great.
It was very special.
But the big family Thanksgiving,
you just don't get to do it.
as well when you're in a football family.
And it was the same thing when I was a kid.
My dad was working on Thanksgiving or somewhere else.
Christmas, Thanksgiving.
We moved it around, that sort of thing.
We talked about this on the pod last week.
Thanksgiving is really cool when you're just chilling.
And that's what I was doing this past week.
And I was doing it last year too.
But that was a little bit different.
I was living in an apartment and stuff and transitioning out of the league.
This year I'm like home and I got to sit on the couch and see what it was all about.
And I really got to soak it in.
and I am putting it number one on the holiday index.
Great showing from Thanksgiving this past week.
And the holidays playing hurt.
COVID.
Novel coronavirus.
Still not a big family holiday right now.
But when it is, man, that's going to be great.
When everybody can get together.
I mean, it is an adult excuse to binge drink.
I said that last week.
And not your like 23-year-old binge drinking.
These are people that have no business drinking as heavily as we do at this juncture in our lives.
So like I'm 35.
I'm on the low end of I can still hang.
But Thanksgiving is an emotional roller coaster.
Like it starts with the panic shower after your alarm goes off because you're hung over and the kids are awake already.
And you're like, what the fuck?
I just got drunk on a Wednesday.
And today's the holiday.
That's the way it always goes.
You always overdo it the night before.
So it starts with that.
Then it's adrenaline, it's excitement, it's the pressure, smoked a bird this week.
It's great on my Trager.
That is not an ad.
Trigger has not approached me yet about doing ads on this pod, but you never know.
You want to get the breast to 180 degrees or so, if I remember correctly.
Did good, man.
People said it was good.
Then you get your nice buzz around like 2 p.m.
Where you're like, you got to almost smack yourself.
You're like, hey, there's a turkey out there.
Don't forget.
You're watching football.
That was great.
I mean, terrible games.
I mean, just absolutely dog shit.
I can only imagine this holiday with good football games.
You know how cool Thanksgiving had to be in the 90s?
Things were just cooler in the 90s anyways.
But you had like Barry Sanders.
You had John Madden, Pat Summerall.
You had the big turkey on the field.
Talked about that with my dad.
You could like really eat it and not worry about novel coronavirus or other germs
that we just didn't seem to be aware of in the next.
90s. I mean, they were still eating that turkey two, three years ago, I guess. They probably ate it last
year. I don't know. It just looked a lot better in the 90s. Thanksgiving had to be awesome in the
90s. Get some good football next year without COVID being as prevalent. We're going to have a great
Thanksgiving. I can only imagine. I don't know if I can handle it. After you actually execute and you
chill for a little bit and you start to sober up and the sun goes down, you get theitis. If you know
what theitis is, you can't move.
And then you get the same day hangover.
Theitis goes right into the same day hangover,
which is like I tried, I tried as hard as I could,
but I was just kicking the can down the road
and now it's the evening.
And I'm not big on just chasing it into midnight
unless there's something big going on.
Because I'll look around at one in the morning
with the McAllen at the kitchen counter,
like where the fuck did everybody go?
I thought we were drinking a night.
That's the most annoying thing in the world.
When like three, four people,
you're having to hang out around a holiday,
you're at home, you're not going to a bar or something like that.
Obviously right now you wouldn't be.
And people are like, you're not drinking at like six.
And then at nine they go up to their room.
I mean, like, I'll be down there alone.
Scotch.
That's why, you know, Thanksgiving night,
I think my style is going to be just chill out,
hit the runway, glide in, edible, done.
Also, a quick non-football realization.
I had to share it.
I don't even know how I was,
gonna get this in the pod. My son is really into watching me swap flies like he loves. It's like a game,
right? Luke, who by the way turned two on Thanksgiving. What a cool birthday that was for him.
We had the donut cake for him in the morning where we just stacked donuts and put, that's a good hack for
anybody who didn't get a cake last minute. You can just call Grubhub, get some donuts, stick a couple
candles in there. Kids happy as a clam. The only people don't know this will be the adult.
who gives a shit uh we did have cake for him in the evening great holiday for that dude love luke
he doesn't listen to the podcast yet that dude is a is a daddy's boy i love it um but the fly thing
all these years 35 years i have been trying to smack the shit out of flies like i'm mr miagi
on the kitchen table on the counter kind of like where it hurts your hand a little bit
you're trying to show off how fast your hands are like you're like maybe if i if i'm a if i'm a if i'm a
I'm a little faster this time I'll get him.
I've been doing it wrong.
Clap your hands right above where the fly is sitting on the kitchen counter.
It's like throwing the ball to the receiver where the receiver is going to be,
not where the receiver is.
By the time the fly reacts, he's going to be right in your hands.
How did I not realize this?
Did all you listeners know this?
Did you know you could do that?
Is this just one of my realizations I had way too late,
or did I just teach you something epic?
You tell me.
Try that shit.
I'm one for one.
Did it right before I came into work tonight to do this pod.
Luke was impressed.
He was really impressed.
And they said, did they're working?
Podcast?
I said, yep, got to keep the lights on, man.
Some NFL news bouncing around.
Like, listen, I'll get into the COVID stuff on Wednesday a little bit more.
but it felt like in the same hour
we got the San Francisco news
if only Candlestick Park
was still around
San Francisco is not going to be able to play
the next three weeks in Santa Clara
County because they came down with this
COVID guideline
where contact sports is out
San Francisco is looking
for another place to play.
They can't find one currently, but they will.
They probably play down in Arizona.
Got me thinking about Candlestick Park, place that I love.
One of my favorite places to play
I've played there every year for eight years.
Only won once.
Actually, I don't know if we won once.
The last game was kind of a blur.
We tied once.
But yeah, it's,
gosh, that would be cool.
If it was still sitting there,
you could see them play there a couple games.
That would be like a bonus farewell thing.
But they leveled it.
Like, we do everything super cool.
And it's probably just a pile of rebel by the Pacific Ocean.
I don't know.
What are they building there?
Parking lot.
Be nice to have that right.
now with nowhere to play. But that same hour, we got the Denver news. I mean, talking about
Denver having to, you know, bring a practice squad receiver up to play quarterback because
everybody, like Denver is, no one's playing quarterback. Nobody. We got that news. The same hour,
we got the Santa Clara thing. Actually, I had Cowboy Reed, pull some audio. We talked about
this quarterback thing back in, I guess it would have been May with Bruce Ariens. Here,
Here's a clip from May.
Quarterback thing.
Here's an interesting one I heard.
Okay, you're preparing for a season with COVID.
And I'm not going to hammer you on COVID stuff because we just don't know.
We don't know where it's going to be in the fall.
We can speculate.
But the one thing I wonder is there's a lot of players that if they tested positive,
you would have to make some adjustments as long as it's contained.
And I know that probably they'll expect players to quarantine for two weeks if they test positive.
I don't know.
but with the quarterback position, okay, it's a room full of two, three guys.
If Tom test positive for COVID, knock on wood, you're going to need a good backup.
But what if that backup's been sitting in the room for him while he's infected or symptomatic?
I heard some crazy, but maybe it's not such a crazy idea, to have a quarterback on your roster
that is not at the facility around the guys.
Because you could conceivably end up in a situation where you're down to quarterback three
relatively quickly.
Yeah, that's one of the things I've been pondering in the last two or three weeks.
As we set the protocols, and from what I'm understanding is if you test positive,
you're quarantined for two weeks.
Now, if you have no symptoms, I don't know what that means.
Yeah.
Is it a false one?
Is it a, I mean, there's so much to learn and still explore with this thing.
but I've thought about keeping the third quarterback on the roster out of the room.
You know, we have two guys that have been in our system really sharp.
So I might have to quarantine a quarterback just in case of a quarantine.
Listen, it was bound to happen.
I wonder if we're going to see people start to subscribe to that in some form or fashion going to the playoffs.
Because if this was a play, now it's going to be interesting.
Is the NFL going to stick to it?
They said, and Broncos really wanted to,
all the NFL had to do was push this game back to Monday.
The NFL wouldn't do it because they're going to do it,
you know,
for a competitive reason,
like a position room,
that's what they're saying,
getting wiped out.
They're only going to do it if there's an unsafe situation
that's not under control,
right?
So they said,
this thing's going to be Sunday.
And all the while,
while all this is going on,
you've got the Baltimore outbreak,
which has moved the game basically twice,
and it's Tuesday.
Thanksgiving to Sunday to Tuesday, right?
I mean, that's kind of how it went down.
You lose Lamar Jackson for Tuesday,
one of the NFL's biggest matchups late in the year,
up in smoke, basically.
And it all started, well, I got a rant in me
about the Ravens situation.
I'll save that for Wednesday.
But that's, COVID's bearing down on the NFL,
just like the rest of the country.
And listen, me personally,
I knew this would be a motherfucker of an undertaking
and that we'd probably lose some games,
and I thought we'd have stopped and started by now,
so I'm kind of surprised that the NFL has been able to do this.
I do think football is important.
I do think that, you know,
it does lend a sense of normalcy to a lot of people.
So, you know, you can call me naive or short-sighted,
but listen, if you can do it safely, great.
If you can no longer do it safely,
you've got to do the things that you have to do to write the ship,
or we can't have nice things.
Like, you know, if we can't get this thing under control, the longer we're going to be looking at sports being like this.
So a little motivation for everybody, right?
Players, people at home, COVID, the NFL is not bigger than.
And what goes down, I think in the next week, the NFL is going to have to get out ahead of this thing.
They've been kind of reactive.
And I think they've all things consider it, as I said, I didn't expect this to be doing this good.
I think in the next week, they're going to have to get out ahead of it and make some sort of
major announcement and, you know, set out some guidelines because they've spoken before when
we've had these little bubble bursts. Also, possible Jalen Hertz citing tonight as you listen,
Monday night should be a very chill week in Philly, no overreactions, probably nobody's
screaming on sports radio, none of that stuff. Totally chill week. Not that I don't want Carson to,
I'm not taking any pleasure in this, man. I'm rooting for Carson. I've been rooting for him all
here. I got to call it how I see it sometimes and I'd like to see him be able to fix this situation.
I don't think Jalen Hertz is the answer right now, but I could be wrong and I haven't seen the
kid play. I'm just going off the context clues. What I saw in college and the fact that they
haven't put him in yet. But again, I said last week, Carson's a guy you owe a lot of money to
right now. So if you go to Jalen Hertz, you got to be ready to explore a ton of different scenarios.
it'd be hard to go back to Carson.
So Philly fans, it could always be worse.
You could be a Jets fan.
And if you go over to the Jets website,
you pop around a little bit
and watch some of the post-game presser
and you catch up on some Jets news,
you'll see that the Jets,
head coach Adam Gase, is under a lot of fire,
but he might have a chance to rectify the situation.
He's going to be the play caller again,
and his franchise quarterback, Sam Darnold, is back against the Dolphins.
He's taken over the plate calling again, okay?
It's been Dow Loggins the past couple weeks.
You know, try something else.
Adam Gase is back this week, right?
Okay, that's what Chris Mortensen said in the last couple days,
and maybe that's going to change this offense a bunch.
Well, it doesn't change the offense a bunch.
In fact, the offense gets worse.
Dow Loggins had these guys scoring 28, 27 points,
the last two weeks.
The Jets look more like the Jets today.
So naturally we're going to see
a heaping dose of accountability
and humility from Adam Gase.
And to a lot of people,
what he said after the game didn't
strike that chord.
I'm not calling Adam Gase a liar.
I'm just saying this kind of smells like bullshit.
Listen, they kind of ask him
who called the plays during the game
because, you know,
it was understood that
Adam was taking over play calling again.
And he doesn't quite seem to want to own up to that.
And then I'm going to play you a Sam Darnold clip afterwards.
So we'll go Adam Gase, then Sam Darnel.
I didn't take over.
We did this.
We've done the same thing in the last four games.
We were watching Dahl for the whole game.
He wasn't doing anything.
I mean, he was just standing there.
He tells me it's not hard.
This is not hard.
We go through it, the drive before.
Hey, these are the three plays.
I do the third downs.
So what happens after the three plays when you have a series?
Because we were watching one where Dowell was talking to Frank Pollock.
He wasn't calling the plays you were.
What part of the game was it?
I want to say that was the third quarter.
Yeah, when we got down, then I was trying to do some of the two minutes stuff.
And Sam, you've always been a strong supporter of Adams through some tough times.
where is your confidence level in him now?
And do you still believe that he's the right guy for this organization?
Yeah, I'm super confident in Adam and, you know, the way he coaches, you know,
us players got to be better.
And me personally, I got to play better.
Is he calling more plays?
He said he wasn't, but it looked like he was calling more plays today.
How did it work, that dynamic work for you?
Yeah, I mean, I hear one voice.
You know, I hear Adam's voice calling the play into me.
you know, I'll let him kind of give you guys more.
But yeah, I just heard one voice today.
And so, like, I don't know.
Man, maybe Adam Gates is the one calling the plays in
and they're coming from Dow Loggins.
I have no idea.
I don't call NFL plays.
But I'm just saying, like,
if I didn't know shit about football
and I was an alien just watching the post-game presser,
Alien the New English,
that kind of been around people,
I would say that Adam Gates looked like he was full.
of it on that. I mean, like, that's the, that's the consensus with no context. And I have some.
You're like, nah, dude, this just kind of stinks. Like, the reaction was just like, what do you
mean? Like, if it was you calling the plays, you're not going to feel like you got your
caught with your pants down on the fact that Dow Loggins was just standing around. And these
Jets beats, beat reporters are like, yeah, dude, he's just like, he's just standing there. He wasn't
calling the play is what so i mean the jets are reality tv show for sure and they're they're only getting
it's going to be so bad this is going to enter into so bad it's good territory um which i hate even
saying but that's people are entertained by dumpster fire stuff and i sat in dumpster fire situations
for seven or eight years i wish it made me you know uh more sensitive to those situations but um
it's just it's tough business
man and people act real out of character when things go south i am a jets fan deep down because my man joe douglas
is there i want to see him succeed so gosh i hope i hope things are better at some point let's talk
about the games all right bears packers you know here's the deal with this game if i had to write one
headline for it it'd probably be that football's not fair this had all the makings of being a feel-good
story the miss tribisky you know come back listen sucks how we got here nick full
is getting hurt, that's never fun.
And it's definitely not fun when you know the guy and you've been pulling for him.
It hasn't really been working out for Nick.
I don't know, you know, with or without the injury, if we'd have been seeing Mitch again at some point.
But here we are Thanksgiving week and Sunday night.
We've got a redemption story, right?
Mitch Trubisky's a good dude, man.
Like my brother played with him, loves him death.
I've got respect for the kid
he's had a great football career
and you're like
you're listening and you're making a face
my man was a top five pick
lit it up in North Carolina
he's QBed a playoff
team
somebody said he went to a pro bowl I don't really like pay attention
to that but somebody said he went to a pro bowl okay
if you're scoffing guy went to a pro bowl right
he made it he's had a great career
and I'm not saying a pro career he's had a lot to be proud of
okay
and he got
bench for guy that as I said is not playing great in one of the biggest cities in America
like where football is like a religion okay he could have got benched in jacksonville if you could do
it all over you think you'd get back to the playoff game and and some of the fun times they had
when this run looks sustainable or like they could build around them enough do you think you'd give
all that back to go play like in jacksonville somewhere where the stakes weren't as high it's
hey listen heavy as the head that wears the crown and it's hard being that you know the quarterback
in chicago there's only a few cities that's probably harder and it kind of it's kind of imploded so
seven weeks he stued he sat there he's you know held the clipboard or we don't say you know we don't
hold the clipboard anymore we hold the Microsoft tablet with pro football focus installed on there and
Chris Collinsworth drawing plays with fletcher cox and shit isn't that what i saw in the commercial
So like that's what he's been holding for for two months, right?
Right behind Nick Foles.
You know,
I complimented how intently he was listening along on the sideline
right after they took his job.
I respect this kid.
He sat there, man.
Like Michelle Defoy is selling me,
she's selling the fuck out of this.
How much this benching is giving him perspective and,
you know,
he's just sat there and,
you know,
he's going to be,
he's going to realize how big the opportunity is when it comes back around
and whenever he gets his shot.
And you never know,
but he's going to make,
the most of it and, you know, people at home are like, man, she also said he had, you know, Matt
Nagy said he has best week of practice. But the NFL is really fucking hard, dude. It's really hard and
it's unfair. I bet you he wanted it so bad Sunday night and I wanted it for him, even though I
had the Packers and I changed my mind on the pick I gave out last week. I stew with it for a little bit
and was like, nah, I'm not falling for this. I'm taking the Packers. I'm taking the under and the
Packers fucked up the under single-handedly.
But like, I really wanted this for Mitch Chubisky.
And he probably wanted it so bad, dude.
Wanted it so bad.
But that's just not the way it goes in the NFL.
You can't will yourself to be good.
You can't will yourself to make a situation work when it's not.
You know, the biggest crock of bullshit in the NFL is that, like, hard work guarantees you success.
It doesn't.
I'm sure this kid is working his out.
off. Tons of guys work really hard and never get the breaks. So he comes out and every time I look up,
you know, watching the game from the other room, the Packers are celebrating something.
He's throwing the ball to Darnel Savage left and right. He's throwing the ball into like, you know,
five Packers. It's just, it just goes to show that like you can't just snap your fingers and make
something work. I know that was supposed to feel good. And maybe for everybody else, they,
didn't bite the cheese as much I did.
I thought that this might be competitive
because last year,
these games,
especially the first game,
was relatively competitive.
It was one of the first games I saw coming out of football,
going to see my brother play for the first time.
And that was like a 97 ball game.
So I thought that,
you know,
like I didn't think Mitch was going to come back
and be a world beater,
but I wanted to just see him look competitive.
And I wanted to see Chicago look competitive.
And I thought the defense might do that.
They obviously missed Akeem Hicks.
a great deal. And, you know,
Akeem Hicks, as they pointed out early on,
such an underrated
piece when it comes to
sustaining the success of
one of the best defenses in the NFL.
And they didn't look like it tonight.
Every time I look back,
like Aaron Rogers is throwing
the ball off his back foot to Adams,
like drifting to 15 yards.
Like 15 yards, like a normal
quarterback set points like seven yards. Drift to like 15 yards.
You know what else does that? Pat Mahomes.
Kind of the same guy.
like nonchalant piss missile, frozen rope, dart, Devante Adams, whatever you want to call it,
off his heel, like off the back of his heel, just falling backwards, like trust falling backwards.
What is going on with his physiology that allows him to throw the ball like this?
We get bored with it.
Like I saw that throw in real time and I went back to taking notes for the pod.
and then I was like holy shit
let me watch that play again
he just like you grow to expect things out of him
nonchalant piss missiles
like he's throwing something in the trash
that's that's how he throws footballs
like he's just throwing something in the trash
no emotion
the face the face is just
folding laundry face
like when I'm folding my laundry
that's the face as if I fold laundry
wife wife alert
my wife's gonna be listening to this podcast
my lovely wife Meggs
and we listen to podcast like you don't fold
on fucking laundry
because I think
it's a waste of time
actually.
Like,
why do we need clothes
that don't have
crinkles in them
right now?
Who are we seeing?
Who are we seeing?
How much time
are we wasting
folding laundry
in the pandemic?
Stop folding your laundry.
That's the face
that Aaron Rogers
makes when he's
throwing touchdowns.
Like,
I'm just folding some laundry.
And the Packers
just rolled it all over them.
I don't even know
what the final score
ended up being.
It's like 40-something to 17.
And one thing I realized
tonight
is Mercedes Lewis is like still out there, dude.
He's still out there.
He's still doing it.
Oh, that guy can block his ass off.
He could block his ass off in like 2010.
That sounds like a long time ago to me.
Imagine what that sounds like the players
that Google like, you could play for another team
and get the shit blocked out of you.
You could get blocked into the fucking tablet
on the sideline and be like,
God damn, who is that?
You Google him after the game, and you're like,
oh, he made the Pro Bowl in 2010?
I was in Little League, and he just blocked me into the sideline.
Mercedes-Louis deserves a shout-out.
I didn't do any shout-out.
Shout-out to Mercedes-Lewis.
Not much older than me, which makes me realize that I'm old as fuck.
He's 36.
I'm 35, okay?
He was born in May.
I was born in March.
I checked before the pod.
Mercedes-Lewis is old, but I guess that means I'm old as hell, dude.
and I actually thought about continuing to play
I would have been out there
people would have been Googling me after the game
like who is that guy
who's running like his feet hurt
Mercedes-Lewis had vice grips man
that's the only dude I think
got something out of mixed martial arts
I know that all these guys
is a big craze about doing MMA
and then like everything it does for you
as a football player no doing MMA
makes you in great shape
it probably works on your hip flexibility
if you're willing to kick a bat
bag and whatnot. It probably works on your hand speed.
But until you're doing MMA at a full sprint, don't tell me it like crosses over to football.
Now for Mercedes-Lewis, I think so. I swear to God, he blocked me one time and I thought he was doing
like, he learned it from Royce Gracie.
I was like, what the fuck are you doing to my jersey, dude?
Let it go.
Like learned a top team, Brazil.
The guy's big as shit. He's 109 years old. Still bawling.
good for him.
Packers win.
It's Henry.
Harry's a defender with him across the 45.
He has just cracked 5,000 yards rushing in his young career.
Titans game.
David Quisenberry, who, you know,
I was talking about COVID earlier in James Connor
and being a cancer survivor and that sort of thing.
David Quisenberry started a game today against the Colts.
Cancer survivor.
Shout out to him.
Love that.
dude don't even really know him just love him for what what he's been through and what he's done and
golly dude every time i hear his name i'm just so happy you know see him come out the other side like
that and today was starting in a big football game and playing again a reminder you know you've got
guys like that out there i would hope you're taking it serious this game was like a college game
for a little bit at an NFL skill level for like a quarter
It was the fastest 20 minutes in football.
The only thing that slowed this game down
was scoring because there were like no incompletions
and a fuck ton of runs and it was just,
it was not, it was so quick on the eyes.
Like it just moved, right?
It's beautiful for a quarter, a lot of scoring.
Actually, I'm not that into high scoring football games
but when Derek Henry's out there, it's fun.
It was evident that Buckner was missing for the Colts.
It was definitely evident he was missing.
You know, you, you have,
had two teams coming off of overtime games, right? And that's only happened like, what,
seven times I think you read earlier today, two teams coming off of overtime games last week.
And if you're checking the notes two weeks ago, these teams play each other. And obviously
the winner sole possession of first place in the division, all that good stuff. I wanted to
see who was going to be tired. And a fatigue chin check was definitely in order if you're the
Titans. You had to check these guys' chin. And they've been a really respectable defense. They did a
nice job a couple weeks ago. You remember they won 34 to 17. Titans controlled the game for a lot of
it. Things just got away from them when they started smoking crack on special teams. They got
what, a punt block for a touchdown. They punted the ball like 17 yards in third quarter. That
led to a score.
Oh,
Goscowski missed a field goal,
like his eighth of the year.
Special teams is bad for them. They lost
3417. And the Colts
have owned them. Since
2002, there's some crazy statum
to butcher it, but it's a lot of games they've
beaten the Titans, and they've owned them
at home. Last year,
Titans beat them in
Indy, and that was like a big deal, but it does
not happen historically.
And two weeks ago, it looked like,
you know, at the end of the game,
if you weren't watching that closely
that this was a bad matchup for the Titans
and I still don't think it's a great matchup for them
but this game was different than two weeks ago
these two teams retired
it just didn't bother the Titans so much
and they were the hammer not the nail
and I think a lot of that was because
if you look at those two overtime games
that we're talking about
the Colts went to the wire
and got this really emotional win
that was like so rangy
It was, you know, the highs and the lows, they were down, they got punched in the mouth,
then they were up, and, you know, I don't even remember, but there was, there were multiple
score deficit, overtime, a lot of offense, fast-paced, surprisingly high scoring.
The Titans just played Titans football last week.
Like, last week, the Colts were not being the Colts.
when I said last week that
I wasn't surprised they beat the Packers,
I was just surprised that they did it
by scoring in the 30s.
That wasn't the Colts, man.
The Titans were just the Titans last week.
They just bullied the bully last week.
That's what they did.
You know, they ended last week
and Derek Henry would probably still be running
if he had took off through the tunnel there
at Raven Stadium in overtime.
And what amazes me is that Henry had the wheels to do it today
or like earlier today.
He looked fresh like the first drive.
And when I tell you, he almost touched the ball every play,
and that included pass plays.
They were just dumping it down to him, letting him run,
and they got these guys going sideline to sideline,
and they just punctured them right up the middle.
And I turned this game off in like full disclosure, early third quarter,
but by halftime, I was spreading the wealth a little bit.
I was looking at some of these more degenerate games.
I had, you know, rooting interest in, like, Giants, Bengals.
Yeah, I watched a lot of that game due to this game being out of hand.
But early on, it was a great game, and Henry had had the wheels to drive this Titans' offense.
Last week, the Titans against the Ravens, they had a really nice drive early, and then they got cold.
They didn't get cold.
A.J. Brown touched the ball early.
Last week, you remember, I think he had a 39-yard PI.
that he drew on that big drive,
I told you about earlier in the Ravens game,
but after that,
I don't think he had a catch to like the third quarter.
He got the ball right off the bat,
first touch,
11 minutes in the first quarter,
and then he had a 69-yarder on a slant,
and nobody fucking touched him.
Like nobody.
I know he's faster than even he looks
because, like, people's angles are really bad.
That, and I think legitimately some DPs are afraid to touch him.
And early on, Indie kept pace
because they had a lot of good,
to running backs and Burton was great.
If they didn't get Trey Burton going,
you see what Pittman does, man?
Like Pittman,
Pittman has really given them a different element lately.
I would have thought today's effort offensively
would have been a stretch.
If you had told me, you know,
the Titans were gonna score four or five touchdowns
in the first half,
you know, I would have said that wouldn't
look competitive even for a quarter.
But the Colts were, early on,
we're moving the football.
You know, that touchdown to Burton was awesome.
Great throw by Phil.
by Phil right into the goalpost
Trey fell. But the whole
time kind of clasping that ball
the defender trying to pry it, that was a great
catch. If they can get him going,
Rivers looked really good on another floater
that he threw to Trey as well.
By the way, it's great to see Trey
have success. Again, he was in Chicago.
You didn't hear much about him.
You know, he's in Indy.
You're hearing a lot more about him. It's like, you know,
the guy knows how to use him in Indy.
And Phil's going to be happy he has him.
He's very versatile. And again,
Pittman opens things up completely for them.
But today was not their day.
By the way, Rock Yassine also had a drive from hell.
That was just a couple bad penalties.
And then if you saw that game, the announcer in the midst of that,
I think it was Charles Davis, who's, Charles is my guy,
but he blamed it on his wrestling background.
He said, the guy was a great wrestler.
There's nothing like when you fuck up and go back and watch the TV copy.
And like, it's bad enough if they just point out that you fucked up.
but when they prescribed like the wrong reason you fucked up,
that can be really frustrating.
I bet Rock you're seeing if you ever watches that media copyback,
he's going to be like,
it has nothing to do with wrestling
that I got a little grabby on that drive in the second quarter.
Two bad penalties.
Extended those drives.
And then I also saw something I hadn't seen a while.
If you remember this play,
this was how bad it was for the Colts.
Dude on special teams just punching somebody mid-play out of frustration.
but not like a DB fight midplay
where it just keeps going and it spills over it on the sideline
everybody knows like the Odell fight
like that Josh Norman O'Dell is what I'm thinking about
this was just like guy in his technique
trying to get out of the stack
and then he just starts punching the guy in the head
and then snaps back into a special team's routine
and like continues to play technique
I've never seen anything like it
the Colts just imploded
They hung in there for a second
But they couldn't keep up
And the mistakes caught up too
They're not as good as they appeared to be last week
That's what I believe
And they're not as bad as they were this week
They'll be around
That's the Colts
They're an around team
They're just going to be around
You'll see them
You'll see them
They'll be there
Yep Colts they'll be there
I don't know what they're going to do
When they get there
But they'll be there
God I hope they make the playoffs
They said they would be there
Third and eight.
It was like third and one for this team.
Down the field.
Who else?
Hill!
Hit the 10!
The main event today was,
it was exciting in spurts.
Golly.
It felt like it was over and, you know,
in 10 minutes down in Tampa,
and the rest of the game was like a formality.
But a narrative forming formality,
no matter how it went down,
you knew this game was going to light up,
you know,
takes to the world this week. First thought on this game, why pewter and why not pewter and
red for the CBS scorebox? So you notice at the bottom, I think today they had red and gray,
red and gray. I guess I don't know who was who I don't remember, but, you know, like where
they show the score at the bottom, they had red for one team, gray for the other. Why not do
pewter and red? That was annoying as fuck to me. There is no difference between gray and pewter
on the eyes. Both fairly visible to put the score right smack in the middle there like you
normally would. It was just a little confusing to me. Both teams are red, neither are gray in my humble
opinion. Just, I don't know if anybody else caught that. Had a bunch of teasers on this game.
Okay, I teased the bucks to 10. You know, I went small on three and a half, but I went, you know,
relatively big on 10.
And if you're listening, you know what a teaser is.
You can play with the line,
but both games have to hit in a two-team teaser.
So I had the Bucks and the Niners.
The Niners were double-digit dogs
in that teaser as were the Bucks.
Same thing with the Packers,
three-point favorites, bucks, 10-point dogs.
And I went all in on like alternate line
under 49 and a half.
No, over, sorry.
Alternate line over 49.5.
and bucks and bucks plus 10.
So you could say your boy was fairly confident
that this would be a competitive ball game.
And you could also say that your boy looked like white as a ghost
the first 10 minutes.
I mean, first off, different sports on the two channels I was watching.
You had the Chiefs offense on one TV.
You had 200 yards for Cheetah in the first 15 minutes.
And then in the other TV, I'm watching a game
where they literally cannot throw the football.
It's 1913 or whenever they couldn't throw the football.
Maybe the 1800s old pictures of Princeton
where everybody's wearing pajamas and striped
and you know they're playing through major concussions.
That's what I was watching on the other day.
It was Army Navy on one channel
and it was the greatest show on turf on the other channel,
like futuristic greatest show on turf.
I have never seen such a big delta between like styles of play
in the NFL at one time, then I did it like 4.40 p.m. this afternoon. Two different sports.
By the way, Saints are going to be awesome in the future, right? Because this is the quarterback
of the future, right? They're going to be awesome, but they have to play really bad teams,
and the ratings are going to be super low on these games. Sean Payton, I fucking love you.
Sean Payton is a great football coach. I mean, like, I'm impressed. I'm really impressed.
but I want to watch the Saints in the future.
Please don't tell me this is going to be what is good.
I mean, I was so interested,
and then I saw just how inept the Broncos offense was.
It was like I needed a reminder how hard it is
to win without a quarterback in this league.
The Saints scored 31 points with Taysam Hill.
I'm still impressed with Sean Payton.
And yes, I said that correctly.
I'm impressed with Sean Payton.
And Taysam Hill is a great football player.
I'll say this every week.
Chiefs, maybe the only team more fun to watch
than the Saints and how creative they are.
They're just so fun.
I feel like this is the perfect storm
and we have to appreciate it.
You have Andy Reed,
you have Bianami,
and you've got Mahomes,
and I mean,
it's what happens when a goat
meets a goat.
I'm not saying like,
I'm not crowning either of the goat.
I'm just saying like,
I think when it's all said and done,
you'll be talking about Patrick Mahomes in that light.
And Andy Reid is an offensive mind
and as a head coach,
he's up there.
like Bill and Tom
it's a marriage of situational football
savvy like all these things
like complimentary football
Tom wowed you with great throws
but this is like
this is space age shit
and they're both experts on the
same side of the ball right
it's a fun pairing
because Patrick Mahomes is undeniably
I mean you had the marriage
of Sean Peyton and
Drew Breeze in New Orleans
and you still have it but
even
Drew in his prime
it's not as fun as this
it's not
because we talk about
Drew and Marcus Colston being the one
who caught the most touchdowns from him
like Patrick Mahomes is throwing to Cheetah
and Kelsey
and like Hardman
and like all these like fast
you know blow the top off the defense guys
you pick your poison with these guys
and then you get
Clyde in the back
field and Levi-on-Bell
it's almost unfair
appreciate what we're watching.
We haven't done a good job of it this year.
You know,
they run Philly Special in the Red Zone.
Kelsey's out there faking pitches
on routine chunk plays.
You know, he caught the ball on the left sideline
and he's just like, oh, fuck it. I think I'll turn this play
into an option. They run
speed option on third and one, just to remind you they
could, like, they could do that
with ease, fake pitch.
Everybody bites.
Mahomes just kind of
scurrying for like seven yards.
easy. They threw on
third down with the game on the
line and 90 seconds ago.
If they just run the ball on third and six
or whatever was, bucks have
no timeouts, they're kicking
under a minute and pinning them down
deep. Now,
you know, a little sketchy,
Tom, 45 seconds
no timeouts. You never know what could happen.
But they decide to
throw the ball. And
they roll out left
and ice the game.
Scary thing is now that in four minute mode,
they don't even need to do shit like that.
They can put you away with the new elements they've added.
I mean, they're just fun.
They create so much space, so much space.
There were times today where it felt like,
in a different way,
the first half of Hawks bills
that happened about a month ago,
where I said it felt like, you know,
one team was in two minute,
but they actually weren't the way that,
you know, the defense was giving up yardage.
that's just like what it's like watching the chiefs sometimes.
Their drive against the Raiders to end the game when they had to last week
look the same as their early drives this week.
Less tempo, but same dangerous balls out approach.
And that's impressive against a Bucks defense that's still,
they've taken their lumps this year, but pretty decent.
The first touchdown in the second half to Hill, like mid-third quarter, was disgusting.
just disgusting.
There's no defense for that.
I mean, the way he backpedals and buys time,
it's one of my favorite things to watch.
And it makes no sense because I rushed quarterbacks for a long time.
He's got to be the most frustrating person in the world to rush.
Shaq Barrett, great rush, save the game being watchable.
If you remember his sack, beautiful, in-and-out jab.
At that point, they got 44 yards of offense.
It's 17 to nothing.
the chiefs are going into score and make it 24-0
you're thinking like saints all over again but sexier
like this was these these hill touchdowns were spectacular
but that's what it would have took all day
I mean that's what that's what's going to take to beat these guys
getting pressure with four
but the pass rush just gets so frustrated playing him
the third and eight right before that
that's the point of me telling you this
the third and eight right before that if you remember the 21
the ball snap of the 21 I mentioned Aaron Rogers
dropped target earlier. Mahomes
drifts to 15 yards.
Okay? If you're watching
JPP,
he's got a chipper outside
him, like two yards off in that awkward
alignment, Kansas City always has traffic
for edge rushers to kind of sift through.
He's avoiding that chipper
anticipating that he's probably going to get chipped
on the way out. He's going
right at the tackle. He knows he's
got to dip inside so he doesn't get
chipped so he can still get a rush,
but then get back out to contain. Well, how do you do
that, you do something creative.
JPP's like bowling him and spins inside out off a bowl.
And really, he's got contained, but you never have contained with Mahomes, who's now
drifting backwards, 15 yards, and just drops a dime.
Third and two, with 1046 to go on the fourth at their own 44, he's backpedaling to 15
again.
And he's backpedaling like backwards and left and just pissing.
missile, 11 yards,
first down, third and two.
Just so relaxed. That play for any
other quarterback in the league is one of their top
five plays of the season,
except for Aaron Rogers, and maybe Russell
Wilson. 90% of the
quarterbacks you're seeing on Sunday,
that's like a highlight throw for them.
But it got lost in the shuffle.
Third and two. Backpedaling 15
yards back there. The ball travels
25 yards on 11-yard
reception, off his back foot.
And then like in four-minute mode,
this play where it's second and six
towards the end of the game. Again
retreats to 13 yards, kind of
turns his back around to the defense
like blindly and just jogs
for the first down. The guys got
like spidey senses. There
is no pocket.
You can't, coaches yell at you like
get contained.
Well, if you were to run an angle
to contain Pat Mahomes,
the B gap is going to be big enough to drive
a truck through. So you have to rush
him really smart. It's really hard to
rush him. His only pick got negated by that JPP penalty. But on the other end, I just, you know,
I want to, I want to have a nuanced discussion about Tom Brady. I'm not making him out to be
top five quarterback or anything in 2020, but I do think there's something to what Romo was saying
for a lot of the game. Now, first, to set the table, I expect a better of that offense. Chiefs
allowed 31, you know, 400 yards the last two weeks. That's been kind of their M.O.
defensively.
And I know you get these ebbs and flows,
but I thought the bucks matched up pretty well.
And it felt like, like I said,
a formality after the first four punts.
And that falls on the offense.
I know that the defense was getting torched out there,
and we'll get to that in a second.
But the offense has to, you know,
Tom said this in his presser after the game.
Third downs early on.
They couldn't extend drives.
They had four puns.
Three of them were three in outs.
They looked off.
And when you're playing a really good offense that's jumped you,
defensively, you have to do a little something to keep pace.
Even if you're not scoring, you need to flip the field or possess the football.
They didn't do that, and they looked off.
So with that as the backdrop, you know, Brady didn't have his best day.
Kansas City blitzed a lot.
He threw two picks.
It could have been worse, though.
Both those picks didn't result in scores.
I mean, they both went three and out.
The chiefs kind of let them off the hook there.
you know, the one pick was a go route versus pressure
where Tom kind of said fuck it,
but it was a gorgeous interception.
Let me tell you, that was a pretty fucking interception.
I don't know if maybe I just saw it
at a really nice angle,
but that ball just floated,
like just tear drop.
I just knew somebody was on the other end of catching it,
and I thought it had to be somebody on the bucks.
I'm not being, I'm being kind of funny,
but it well, you've got to admit it was a pretty interception.
And then the second one
was kind of hideous.
That was off somebody's helmet.
And this is one of the things
that's going to come up a lot.
Like there's no easy hot, okay?
When pressure's coming,
Brady doesn't have an easy outlet.
And, you know,
Darius Butler,
who's a good follow on Twitter,
tweeted it.
And, you know,
a lot of people can see this
when it comes to Mike Evans and Brady.
You know,
the site adjusts between him and Evans
has been a problem this year.
Like, what do they do when, you know,
the play breaks down?
fast and the ball's got to come out, right?
Not on the same page.
Honestly, I think on that pick,
even if the ball doesn't go off a helmet,
which none of this
excuses Tom, Hitchens is going
to maybe pick the ball anyways. The way they set that
little pressure up, Hitchens
was hovering like in the left B gap.
You had another guy blitzing
on the other side.
And as soon as the pressure
came, Hitchens went
to replace that backer across the ball.
So where Tom was going to throw
the ball, Hitchens was on his way.
It hit a helmet and it turns into a
fluky interception,
but I think it would have been
an ill-advised throw regardless, unless I
saw it at the wrong angle.
But you know, you got Mike Evans who's one of the best
in football, no doubt about it, and
you know, it's been a big problem. There has
not been chemistry. We thought
maybe, I thought, allowed that maybe
the Giants touchdown did it. Like,
that was a big play when they
came back to beat the Giants and
I talked about that felt like a moment
where they kind of overcame a rough patch
and there was more rough patches
they had for the bucks and for Mike Evans and for Tom
and they're still working through things
and I think that's on both of them.
I think, you know, I don't know what you read
out of that Mike Evans, Tom Brady,
sideline exchange, you know, the one thing is
Evans not making eye contact.
Somebody asked me, what does it mean to you
that he's not looking at him?
Well, it might mean that he's just very frustrated
and he feels like he's trying everything right now
and for whatever reason they can't get on the same page.
but there's plenty of conversations like that in NFL locker rooms
and you know when you got a camera on you all the time like Tom and Mike at this juncture
people are going to read into stuff hey listen Mike Evans look really frustrated
is he really frustrated at what's going on or at Tom you know that would be I'd be
extrapolating like irresponsibly if I were to assigns you know a motivation or like a
source of his frustration and you know I'm sure it's a little bit of both I'm sure
it's fucking culture shock working with Tom
from a standpoint of being
you know like this
over the top perfectionist
hey when I hear in Tampa
you know the route concepts
there's a lot of freedom for wide receivers
there's not as much freedom this year
Tom likes to know where you are
and you know when Tom was in New England
that's the way it was so I think they're
still working through things I think they can
they can get on the same page
but Brady's gotten on the same page with
with dudes that I've never heard of.
You know, Mike Evans is an elite receiver.
Gosh, you certainly like to think
that they could get on the same page this year.
And Evans, 10 touchdowns this year,
that shocked me, that little blip about, you know,
him scoring 10 touchdowns this year.
He's only third Tom Brady receiver
to have 10 touchdowns in a season.
The other two, Randy Moss.
You know, like, I don't know,
maybe there's something to that.
Tom likes to spread the ball.
Tom likes to, you know, likes the underneath stuff.
He likes his tight ends.
And, you know, it's a big year.
Mike Evans is still really good to hit that marker,
even with all the criticism and all the,
hey, what's going on with Mike and Tom and the slow start?
I think they'll be good down the stretch.
You know, Tony's conversation about Brady and the Bucks offense,
the motion, the run game, the short stuff,
you know, talking about IDing defenses and getting your looks pre-snap,
using motion to identify that,
the meat and potatoes being the wrong game,
the short stuff,
the outlets,
we talked about that,
not having hots built in
and not knowing where we're going with the football,
you know,
in situations like that.
And the receivers not knowing what to do
in those situations that are,
you know, expedited by pressure.
Like,
I think there is some validity to Tony talking about this stuff.
I mean, Tony was caping for him,
for sure, hard today.
He kind of caught himself caping for Tom.
But generally,
there's a lot of truth to, I think, what Tony's
bringing to the table.
The pre-snap motion, the lack of
of options, the run game.
I don't think they really got going until
the second half, and
it's too little too late.
Right out of the half, they go run
with Jones, play action of gronk, and that
was like a vintage little New England sequence.
It set up a field goal.
But run sets up the pass with these guys.
I really believe that.
I really do. And
if the bucks are running the football,
the bucks are going to be productive.
I know that sounds so cliche in old school,
but they are,
we can't expect Tom.
No one expected Tom this year,
you know,
to be a world beater quarterback
that's going to lift everybody up around him,
but you've got this star-studied cast.
You play into the quarterback's strengths,
and that will unlock the talents around him.
But Brady's definitely still got it.
I mean, you know, the fourth and three to Evans
was gorgeous.
Absolutely ballsy throw.
because they needed that to stay alive.
And, you know, Evans is on like an out and then he's up.
And Brady's just like, fuck it.
That's how I break down that play.
Third and 15, just eating a helmet to the face hits Godwin.
And I think at Tom's best this year, I know I talked about like nobody expected to be a world beater.
I think it is best this year.
He's better than we imagine he could still be.
And at his worse, he's been bad.
you know like it's he's he's been up and down and uh with the talent that's on this team i think
i think they should be better than a team that needs to finish with four straight to get to
11 wins i do think they do that i think they went out um and i think they are a team that people
aren't going to want to play in the playoffs i said it after the saints loss i said listen you don't
count you don't count teams out you know as far as being contenders because they have one bad
loss if it starts to become a pattern like if they couldn't find
find a way to stabilize today, I was really worried about him.
They got time to get it right. A lot of changes this year. I think the bucks got out coached
in two of their biggest spots this year. New Orleans, they put up three points. They play
soft zone versus Drew Brees. That was criticized. Today, they kind of stumble out of the gates and
give up 200 in the first quarter to cheat. I talked about that. The whole help is coming soundbite.
He's yelling at Tampa fans, help is coming. Over the top. Not fast enough. Not fast enough
for 24. He was all alone. He would be my hollow man here in a minute.
two, but I have some others.
And, you know, he even got
super lucky on that Philly special,
because if you remember Kelsey took the reverse
and he's one-on-one with 24
headed to the pylon and
either 24 is going to have to tackle this
big son of bitch or Kelsey's
going to hurdle him or truck him
and, you know, corners don't love tackling.
So I just wasn't sure. Like for that moment, I was like,
damn, he got like mossed a couple times.
He's out there in single coverage
and he's about to get run over by
Travis Kelsey, but luckily Travis got
cute and threw the ball
and he got his little PBU there but
they just didn't help this kid I feel bad for the kid
I mean it's Tyreek Hill
they didn't help him cover one and cover three are not the answers
against Kansas City
single high you know you want to blitz Mahomes
good luck with that shit so I just don't think
they've coached well in
two of their biggest games of late
I'm not saying the plan wasn't a problem
and I'm not certainly you know
taken aside here but I do think
they've
they've been out coached those in those two spots
So in the end, not enough.
I'm still not out on the bucks.
These are fixable issues.
The question is, can they work through the interpersonal stuff that it'll take to fix them?
Tom is being tested as a leader, like more than, more than I think he ever has been, honestly.
It's a different thing.
And in the public eye, it's been interesting, too.
People always hated Tom Brady, right?
but it was like kind of
it was good clean
fun right
now it's got a tinge of personal right
we like when we did close ups in New England
of him throwing that tablet there's that tablet
again throwing that Microsoft
Chris Collinsworth special just
breaking it into a hundred pieces
I think about office space
where they all smash those computers that's why I used to
think about with Tom would throw the little
Microsoft thing
if he knew that it didn't look scary
he might not do it but I also don't think he's thinking
about it. We used to like zoom in on that, but you'd be like, oh, the goat's mad. Like, you know,
and that's just the way it is. It's fiery. It's, you know, leaders get mad. It's not, you know,
we love that shit, right? Last dance and all that stuff. We're in awe of how angry some of the
greats can get over losing. But now it's not as fun like when we do the close-ups of him throwing
fits. And people are kind of taking shots. And when he freaked out on Jensen in Chicago,
you know, people, people were like, but should he be doing this?
I mean, that seemed to work.
They rebounded from that game.
There's just a different dynamic this year.
I know everybody's anti-Tom, and I get it.
He's Darth Vader.
But this year, it feels like people smell blood.
And it feels like people have been waiting.
And those interactions, like the one with Mike Evans,
which he's literally just talking to a guy with his hand on his hip,
and Mike Evans looks frustrated.
Like, yeah, no shit.
The offense is the fucking dream team,
and they can barely get a first down in the first quarter.
Like, there's going to be frustrating conversations on the sideline.
All those interactions lead to a lot of speculation now.
Whereas in New England, it was like, they got this.
So I will say that.
I love Tom.
One of the best teammates, you know, I ever had as far as somebody just observing him,
who was an all-time great and treated everybody awesome.
So you won't hear me say a bad thing about him.
But the handshake thing is incredibly obvious at this point.
I'm convinced he's trolling people, in fact.
Like today, it was like,
like Twitter was just waiting for him to go shake hands.
And it's not a great look.
I mean, he's still the man, but it's not a great look.
You see how I did that?
What I did there was I just, I criticized the teammate, but I also didn't bury him.
Did you see how I did that?
It's a skill.
And like, fucking being a sore loser sometimes is not a fatal character flaw.
I'm sorry, it's just not.
Is it a bad look?
Yeah, it would be nice to hear him address it.
Yeah.
Kyle Brandt has absolutely gone off.
and I love it. He's like a dog with a bone on this thing.
And you know why I like it?
Because I know that he is legitimately irritated by it.
And if you're legitimately irritated by it, more power to you.
It's definitely not a good look.
But there are people that are just, you know, feigning, like outrage on this one.
And I know they're not even that mad.
We realized Tom was a sore loser a couple, like a couple months ago.
Did you think that, I mean,
We get it.
He doesn't shake hands sometimes.
I don't get it.
Who's like the quarterback on the threshold of getting a handshake from Tom?
I'm going to work on finding that I'm going to work on like a Tom Brady handshake index.
That's what we're going to do on Wednesday.
I'm going to find out,
I'm going to find out who the quarterback is that's like directly on the line.
Like south of Kirk Cousins,
you're not getting a handshake.
North of Kirk Cousins, you're getting a handshake.
is Kirk Cousins like the guy who he doesn't know
whether he wants to shake his hand or not after a loss.
He's probably not going to shake Kurt Cousin's hand after a loss.
I'll go through that this week, maybe.
Chiefs got the Dolphins.
That'll be interesting.
They got the Saints and Chargers left as games
that kind of starred there.
They're sitting pretty.
Listen, they got to try to catch the Steelers,
but they might have a hard time doing that.
The Steelers don't look like, you know,
with the Ravens having an outbreak,
this was the best chance for them to catch an out
unless they're resting at some point,
which they could be.
But you have to consider
you're the only team with a bye week.
Do you rest anybody?
Like when I was in New England,
I remember going to Miami the last game of the season,
there's this buzz about,
because you don't want to get hurt before the playoffs.
I've been waiting my whole life to play in the playoffs
and I'm out here in Miami.
And I loved every minute of it because it was so fun.
It was a fun game.
And I was chasing a bonus
that Bill was nice enough to let me like
play out and get. It wasn't a huge bonus, but it was a playtime bonus. It was like over 55 or 60%
of the snaps. I got some sizable bonus. And I can remember that week like thinking like, well,
I get pulled like early because of the playoffs and I do play a good bit or will I not? Like can
I get the snaps I need for the bonus but stay healthy and get into the playoffs because I've
been waiting eight years here. The worst fear you have is to like pull a hamstring. I wouldn't
fast enough to pull a hamstring my entire career. Why would I do it at 32? But it, but
It's just like, it's one of those things.
Week 17, Steelers, this year.
And I played a lot that day.
I got the bonus, by the way.
And I appreciate Bill, because I know he knows everything.
And I know he probably thought at one point, like, you know,
I could save us a couple bucks here.
That was nice of Bill.
Love Bill.
Steelers.
I think they could rest.
I think they could be doing the half the game thing.
and get Ben and the gang out of there
because what you don't want is
you don't want to have that sleepy
we just had a bye week
and we rested everybody week 17 thing.
I think the Steelers could go undefeated.
Wouldn't that be nice?
Check your notes.
Tell me if you had the Steelers in the Super Bowl.
Raise your hand if you had them in the Super Bowl.
If you're sitting at home and you had the Steelers
and Super Bowl, raise your hand.
I'm raising my hand here on set.
I had the Steelers in the Super Bowl.
Smart guy.
Let's go awards and get out of here
because I want to get some sleep.
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I'm going to go best flight.
I'm going to go Titans, pure and simple.
It's a variable flight.
It's short.
I'm guessing there's booze.
I feel like there's Crown Royal on a variable flight.
These guys are feeling like a bunch of badasses.
They're rounding into form, right?
Rounding into form.
And that's a game that puts them in the driver's seat in the AFC South.
So big deal for them, not just in the standings,
but a big deal because you don't want to go into the postseason
thinking about possibly playing a team that you lost.
three times to, or have lost twice to
and you're at the risk of losing three times
to a clean sweep of that nature in the NFL is tough.
I don't remember how frequently that happens.
Probably not a lot at all.
And, you know, it's fresh revenge.
That was like, it felt like yesterday,
they imploded on Thursday night
and they got their revenge today.
Speaking of that, revenge, rivalries,
Darius Leonard and
Derek Henry
are like buddies
they sit on the
broadcast and they text every week
you know athletes are fucking
I just want to say this
like athletes today
I think they're more badass
than old athletes in that way
spin zone here
well here's how it went down
I just you know save this little mini sidebar rant
that I like to do
all I hear about from older people
is like in my day we used to like
Like if I saw you on the side of the road,
it was like a street fight if we were in,
you know,
we were in the same league and we played each other.
Like,
that's just such bullshit,
man.
When I watched the last dance,
um,
this summer,
what I learned is that Michael Jordan and Danny Aange played golf,
like the week of the Eastern Conference Finals,
when Michael went off,
or was the Eastern Conference Finals or just the playoffs?
I forget which one.
It was in the late 80s.
Before Michael had conquered the Pistons,
Mike and Danny played golf.
You all remember.
this shit if you weren't sleeping under a rock.
Like imagine not watching
the last dance during the novel
coronavirus pandemic.
Imagine that.
You must hate sports.
But that's when I learned that all those old heads are full of shit.
Like when I learned, I give my dad shit about this.
You know, he never really claimed to be that way.
Like when I'd see my brother before game and like we, you know,
me and Kyle would go meet at midfield or we eat dinner and night before.
There's a school of thought that like even your brother,
you shouldn't even talk to because football.
You can't talk to him after the game.
Fuck that, dude.
That's my brother.
And if I got a friend in town,
like,
I'll see him in warm-ups before the game.
Darius Leonard and Derek Henry are two badass dudes.
I don't give a shit that they text.
They could be best buddies.
They could FaceTime during the week.
Those guys play like maniacs on Sunday.
And guys today,
here's my spin zone,
are even more badass than the older guys.
because the older guys had to actually try to hate each other
to hit each other hard on Sunday.
Darius Lundner and Derek Henry are best buddies
and it's like a car crash all Sunday.
They don't need to play tough guy six days a week.
They could be best friends, still hit each other.
That was an interesting aside there.
The thing about my dad that I gave him shit about
was he said like his whole life,
you know, Joe Green was his hero, his old football life.
And Joe Green went to North Texas
and Cedric Hartman, I think, was my dad's teammate
and was his roommate first year
went to North Texas as well.
And so Cedric and Joe were buddies
and the Steelers were playing in Oakland.
And my dad describes this scene in 1983
or whatever it was
in his little apartment with Cedric Hartman
the night before game and Joe Green comes over for dinner.
And I'm thinking to myself,
wow, that's so badass.
And then at the end of the story, I was like,
Dad, you're such a, you're such a fucking softy, dude.
Aren't you supposed to, like, hate everybody you play?
Like, do you know how much shit you give me if I ate dinner with an opponent the night before?
That's kind of unheard of.
Eating dinner with an opponent.
I'm not going to say anything disparaging about Joe Green or Howie Long, though.
So my point is, you can be boys all week long on Sunday.
It's time to go.
So athletes stay being friendly.
That doesn't bother me.
I'd like to say, I apologize to the Raider Nation.
It really compliment the Falcons.
They played a hell of the football game.
And we did not.
The turnovers, the penalties, inexcusable.
It's a reflection of me.
We're a lot better team than that.
And I'll answer any questions that I can't.
Worst flight home.
Hmm.
Let me think Raiders.
No, let me think about this.
Maybe there was somebody with a better flight.
or worse flight than the Raiders.
No. I hope the Raiders had a terrible flight home.
The Raiders wasted Kevin Harlan.
Okay? They got to fly home knowing that.
The Raiders also hate my family.
I mean, I had a great day at the office other than the Raiders.
I loaded up on the Raiders.
You know, I come into the game thinking to myself,
gosh, Chris, this feels like a very public pick.
You're trying to work on eliminating those very public picks
from your office.
We're not allowing that anymore here.
But the Raiders, man.
I mean, they just took the chiefs to the wire.
They're a different team.
Derek Carr's bucking trends.
I've had that in my notes like six weeks this year.
All these reasons the Raiders are going to run the Falcons.
The Falcons have won three or four, but they've beaten nobody.
And I just, I like the Raiders.
I'm looking at their schedule.
I'm breaking it down.
I'm saying to myself, well, they're not the team last year, right?
because the team last year lost
the team last year that imploded down
the stretch and got crushed by a bunch of people
I could pull those scores up in a second
but that team
that team also lost the
the Kansas City Chiefs 40
to 9 in November okay
they just went toe to toe with those guys
and beat them earlier in the year
I'm taking the world champions
as a barometer
for where they are as a football team
I guess I
was wrong
they're not quite there
yet. By the way, last November, this is how it went for them. At the Jets, 34 to 3, if you remember that.
In this point, they're 6 and 4. They lose at the Jets, 34 to 3. They lose at Kansas City.
49. I just mentioned that. Tennessee Titans, 21, 42 to 21, they lose to the Titans. They
lose to the Jaguars, 2016. They beat the Chargers and then lose to the Broncos. So they imploded
losing five of their last six down the stretch
and I'm counting
two one score losses
and three
three plus score losses
on their resume from late November on
so I'm thinking to myself
hey listen this is a different football team
they're not about to pull this shit today was awful
okay today was awful the Raiders hate my family
okay these are the things I wrote about the first half
I'll just pull up the tweet I tweeted knowing that
Like basically I was tweeting myself some notes for the pod later.
I also wanted to complain about how bad the Raiders were playing.
This is what I saw in the first half, okay?
I said the Raiders are the most frustrating team on TV,
and they literally were, and that was a bad, early slate of games.
Fourth and one, they pitched the ball to Jacobs
instead of just running the fucking ball right up the middle,
or I don't know, I sound like a bad football fan right now.
Why are you just tossing it outside?
Just run it up the middle.
That's what having money on the game reduces you to.
Of course, they get stuffed.
They get bad ball security on two sack fumbles.
Derek Carr is holding the ball out there like his fucking, I don't know,
Nerf ball.
Casual.
I mean, I've sacked him before where I didn't even mean to sack him.
When I strip sacked him in Philly, I strip sacked Derek Carr in Philly,
Christmas week, 2017.
And I swear to God, I didn't know I stripped sacked him.
I got up and started celebrating the ball was still loose.
loose. Dude picked it up and ran like nine yards. I almost got a first time. It was almost the most
embarrassing moment of my life. I didn't know the ball was out because you know when you strip sacks
somebody you don't know but I, you know if there's any defensive ends out there listening
this pod. You know the feeling of a strip sack. It feels so pure. You kind of do it on purpose.
You know that you're going to take the football off somebody. I didn't listen you should always
be trying to take the football off somebody but there's certain angles where you're not thinking
about that. This was not a sack like that. Derek Carl's.
needs to hold on to the football better back there.
These were not like Mathis strip sacks.
John Abraham strip sacks.
These were like the second one, not as bad.
The first one was, there was no reason to fumble the football.
The roughing, the kicker that led to six.
That was terrible.
The guy did like a barrel roll and slow motion made it look so egregious.
Rolled right into a young Waku.
Did I get that right this time?
I was calling him Young Ho-Koo.
I'm calling him Young Wai Kuh.
Almost fucked up Young Wai Koo's knees.
First and goal turned into a third and goal
from like the 20-something.
I mean, they had first and goal at the five.
A couple penalties backed them up to like the 23.
They had a roughing the pass that led to three points.
They had a bunch of penalties.
They were terrible on third down.
They were averaging, you know, third and like 9.8.
Wasn't that it?
Cowboy Reed?
Cowboy Reed got me that stat.
Fucking A, Cowboy Read.
I mean, they were bad.
And then the second half, they weren't any better.
I had the word putrid written in my notes.
That's an SAT word.
Like normal words, like bad were not descriptive enough.
I barely read through my notes, okay?
There was no, I didn't, I wasn't performing for anybody.
I just wrote putrid in all caps.
Caps locked it, putrid, SAT word.
nobody's reading my notes
I did it subconsciously
bad was not bad enough
the car
pick six was brutal
the worst part about it was there was a flag
on the play and it gave you false
hope that it was coming back
but you got a penalty on a pick six
the worst part
well it's not the worst
part but it's bad okay
Calvin Ridley
I can't tell you if you finished the game
but the Raiders hurt his ankle
Calvin Ridley is a valued member of the Liberty Cucks
needed him today
Don't know if he went back in the game
Because I turned that shit off
I could not watch anymore
Okay
I was talking about the plane ride right
You go from a feel good loss at home
To maybe the worst loss relative to competency all year
That I've seen
I mean and you're in a crowded division
Conference
I should say
The AFC
And you imploded late last year down the stretch
okay and here's what happens
when you do something you start
to do something you did last year you do
historically coaches freak out
their assholes get tighter they start
yelling at you not to do the thing you did last
year then they start pushing you harder
then everybody's like a beat dog and they're like
oh are we doing the thing we did last year
and then you start doing the thing you did last year
self-fulfilling prophecy
God I hope it doesn't happen to them because I like the Raiders
just a couple weeks ago I said they're
they're my deep sleeper
They were deep sleeping today, all right?
They were in fucking REM stage at 1123 a.m.
Like, Pacific standard time.
There was like the second half, and they were still getting restful sleep.
They never woke up.
Ghali.
Judge them off progress playing the Chief's mistake.
Fly on the wall.
Okay, I played that Bruce Ariens clip for you earlier.
It happened this week, right?
You've heard all about it.
Maybe you heard that the Broncos tried to have.
Rob Calabrese suit up.
Is that how I say his last name?
Rob Calabrese.
He's a quality control coach.
Peter Schrager put it this way.
This is a Peter Schrager tweet that I'm plucking here.
This guy, this is the guy's bio essentially.
He's the guy who tested negative.
He knows the playbook inside it out and he took snaps yesterday in practice.
Oh my God.
They got quality control coaches trying to play in NFL games.
Wow.
That would have been crazy.
I would have much, America would have much rather seen that
than to see like, I guess a real college
I don't know what the difference would have been.
It would have been just as bad.
All right, but it would have been really fucking interesting.
But essentially it was the same thing and that's why I bring this up.
Kendall Hinton, the Wake Forest kid,
you know, when I heard at first that he was a Wake Forest quarterback,
like, God, well, I'll be damn.
They had a Wake Forest quarterback just sitting,
just waiting in the wings.
They were doing my Bruce Ariens thing, huh?
Secretly.
Vic Fangio.
So smart.
Nah, dude played like a hiccup of quarterback of Wake Forest, okay?
Dude was out there, and I just want to start off and say,
hats off to this guy.
I mean, what a whirlwind of 48 hours.
The fly on the wall element is I want to know how this all went down.
whenever that like I'm sure some of you might not be as into this as me but I think an E60 is in order
what was his day like 48 hours 48 hours just like how did it go down when you got the call
what was your first thought I also want to see what it was like in everybody's living room when
when they read the tweet or saw it on Sports Center and they they got on the Broncos early because
I did like that bet and I was on the Broncos early I had to sit there and just
eat that. That's why when
those guys, when the Saints went up, 7-0
nothing. The game was over when that dude
jumped off sides on the Saints
drive that led to the first touchdown.
It's fourth and one. The Saints are out there just hard
counting. They're about to punt the football. They can't
get anything going on offense. I'm thinking
we might cover. I'm thinking we might
cover. I got 14 points in the
teaser and under 50. That's what I did.
I should just took the under period,
right? But yeah, the game
was over as soon as that dude jumped off sides.
As soon as he jumped off sides and extended that drive, I knew.
they were scoring. And they did. They went up 7-0
and then Philip Lindsay dropped the ball
on a Wildcat snap
and it was over. But this dude
Kendall Hinton, man, to
anybody that says
sits on the couch, you know that stupid
fucking topic wherever it's like how many points
do you score in the NBA? Could you complete an NFL
pass? Like blah blah blah. Yeah,
it seems like a fun conversation
but leave football out of it. Okay?
Don't know anything about the other sports.
I think today teaches a lesson
that it's going to be hard to do.
Okay.
My man had to struggle to complete one pass.
He threw more interceptions.
They did completions, I believe.
Yeah, Cowboy Reed, you're the Broncos fan.
Yep, got the thumbs up.
Listen, nobody's dogging the kid.
The guy didn't even, he was introducing himself to teammates.
Do you know how crazy that is to be in an NFL football game?
And it's not like preseason where this is the norm where guys don't know each other as well.
And maybe like in the fourth preseason game, you get a guy you haven't spent as much time with
and you're, this is an NFL quarterback in a huddle.
I heard him talk.
He was up doing walkthroughs till God knows what time,
um, Saturday night into Sunday morning.
Good luck sleeping, right?
Or the best defense is in the league right now.
He didn't ask for this shit, but he embraced it.
And if he didn't internally, he's not going to tell us.
But think about the prospect of, you're just minding your business.
And then like 24 hours later, you could become a meme.
that's what your wildest dream looks like out there
but not one one hundredth as good
because Kendall Hinton is an NFL player
who played college quarterback for a moment
I mean that was the craziest experiment I've ever seen
and I didn't watch much of it as I said earlier
I was excited for that game then I wasn't
viewing party I just think like as far
I want to see what Minnesota fans were thinking
watching Teddy Bridgewater.
I know Teddy wasn't like a world beter
in Minnesota. He's got to be one of the most like
people in the whole league, right? Absolutely.
Love the guy
to go up there and he made a few plays
in Minnesota, the homecoming game.
I just, I'm kind of curious.
Who do you think is more well-liked in Minnesota?
Bridgewater or Kirk Cousins?
Are there a lot of NFL games
where we have to ask like
who's more liked in this city,
the player that plays for the home team
or the player that plays for the
away team. I don't know. I don't know what the vibe
is up there with Minnesota.
And I think Kirk is just fine.
But Bridgewater's just got this off the charts
likeability, man. And
everything he's been through. That would have been a
really cool moment. That's
one of the biggest robberies of
2020 when it comes to football,
is that we did not get to see a packed
house reacting to
Bridgewater running
out on the field or
however they would have greeted him.
I bet it would have been really cool. And we missed
out on it. And we also missed out on the Alex Smith return. And these are both guys who have
gone through horrific injuries. Two of the most respected guys in league. We didn't get to see
them get raucous ovations and that sort of thing. I'm just curious what people were seeing
and thinking and feeling when they watched their old quarterback for a time to back up in that
stadium. Although I don't know if that stadium was done by the time he was out of there.
So what's it like being a ghost?
Ghost are dead.
I'm very much alive.
Hollow man.
I'm going to take it back to college here.
Syracuse quarterback.
I'm not even going to say his name.
I was kind of watching with one eye,
side TV game,
and Q's is driving.
They damn near beat NC State.
They jumped out ahead of them.
They're driving at the end.
It's a great football game.
This kid's got the ball in the red zone,
time running down.
takes a sack
scrambling up to get the last snap off
it's fourth and goal now because it was third down
on the sack
which is a no-no you don't you know you
don't want to take a sack in that situation
they got no timeouts they're running up to
to get on the ball and get a playoff
before time runs out and he fucking spikes
the ball and I felt for him
dude I really felt for him
and he went over and sat on the bench like
away from everybody
like I don't feel
listen I'm not giving him sympathy because I'm sure the kid is
plenty tough to overcome a bad day at the office, but it just sucks.
Like anybody can make a big mistake.
And I mean, if it makes you feel any better, dude, the goat did it on Thursday night in
front of like the whole world against the Chicago Bears, right, earlier this year.
So slightly different forgetting of the down, but nonetheless of forgetting of the down.
Luckily, I think he's a little bit off the hook because who knew that they'd be in a ball game
with NC State, but that's no consolation
to a guy who just played his ass off.
Probably a hollow man there.
And then Isaiah Simmons, by the way,
the Pats, and I was on the Pats this week,
we gave him out on the gambling show
last week.
Listen, I just felt like this was a perfect
spot for Bill, and
the Pats needed
some help, right? Okay?
I got to go back and watch the game. I caught the end.
Cardinals miss a field goal.
New England gets the ball back.
Cam scrambling with the
football midfield time running down still in bounds Isaiah Simmons hits him and just kind of levels
him when you're that big and you run that fast like you don't even mean to sometimes and you're also
hitting a guy who's your size or bigger so why would you slow up and you see how quarterbacks do and
I know Cam's getting out of bounds and that sort of thing but you know how quarterbacks do the tiptoe
and Mahomes has done it a couple times this year to be cute not that that's what cam was going to do but
you got a rookie here.
You want to tell this rookie who's under the gun right now,
who's had a year that people are on his ass about not playing enough,
not being used enough.
Made a great play against the Seahawks, damn near won him the game.
Albeit that was just a great call, and he caught the football and that sort of thing.
But, you know, this kid can help you win,
and he's trying to play like his hair is on fire.
He's in a really big spot, and he hits Cam Newton, and Cam's in bounds.
What do you want him to do?
He doesn't hit him helmet to helmet.
Cam's a runner.
I wouldn't call it a helmet to helmet at least.
And he just knocks the shit out of him, but Cam's not out of bounds yet.
And that penalty set up the game winning field goal.
And that's got to just be crushing, especially because they're in the playoff, a playoff race.
Like we talked about Chase Young's late hit on Matt Stafford a couple weeks ago.
We had to keep Talib on here to talk about that game.
Nobody's watching that game, right?
The only reason you watch that game is to see Akeep Telib get his debut.
My guy.
That's it.
everybody's watching, even though the Patriots are bad,
people are watching New England. People are watching New England, Arizona.
That's an exciting game. And that penalty is the one that got the
Pats in the field goal range and they hit the game winner. So,
the Pats, like I said, Pats are not going anywhere long term this year,
but the Pats are going to ruin a lot of people's years. They're going to affect a lot of
people's years. All right, game ball. We're going to college again. Jared Patterson.
I could give a Tyree kill with 200.
yards in the first quarter receiving
but there's just something about
a guy running for
400 yards
on the ground.
It's just
it's just something intimidating about that.
You had eight touchdowns or something like that.
Have a day, my man.
I mean, I did the math,
okay?
0.23 miles this guy
ran with a football
under his arm and full pads
on Saturday
afternoon. Buffalo, Kent State, I believe was the matchup.
Kent State will never forget it. This guy's still running, man.
0.23 miles. Go out in your car
and drive that shit. It's a long way. It's a long way.
And that's what that dude did
against the Division I college football team.
I actually don't know how that's possible.
I have never seen anything like that in my life.
That is far too competitive a level of football to allow somebody to
run for 400 yards.
That's a long way.
Game ball, Jared Patterson, Buffalo.
First college player we gave a game ball.
It's a major award. He's probably going to win a lot of other awards.
He's probably going to go on to have a great NFL career, but
Cowboy Reed, we've got to tag him on the socials, let him know
that he is the winner of the Greenlight podcast Game Ball.
It's a big deal.
I know his weekend was great.
It just got better.
It just got better.
Congratulations, young man.
all right so i'll see you guys uh i'll see you guys wednesday and uh have a nice week
