Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Week 12 Recap. Bucs vs Colts, Titans vs Patriots & UVA vs Virginia Tech.

Episode Date: November 29, 2021

(2:29) - Hello, Golfing and UVA vs Virginia Tech Puke Fest. (17:14) - CFB Mentions: Michigan vs Ohio State, UNC vs NC State, Lincoln Riley and Bob Stoops and Fax’s Deal of the Week. (27:47) - Hous...ekeeping: Vitamin T Award, Night Cap Mention and Thad Moss Shout Out. (33:47) - Removing NFL Teams from Playoff Contention: Cincinnati Bengals vs Pittsburgh Steelers and Carolina Panthers vs Miami Dolphins. (50:35) - Philadelphia Eagles vs New York Giants. (55:44) - Jacksonville Jaguars vs Atlanta Falcons and New York Jets vs Houston Texans. (59:33) - San Francisco 49ers vs Minnesota Vikings and Lining Up Behind the Guard. (1:07:16) - LA Chargers vs Denver Broncos, Bad Beat and Viewing Party Mention. (1:15:32) - Indianapolis Colts vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers. (1:34:27) - New England Patriots vs Tennessee Titans and the Patriots’ High Floor. (1:44:50) - Green Bay Packers vs LA Rams, Aaron Rodgers’ Foot and Matthew Stafford and Clayton Kershaw Spending Too Much Time Together. (1:56:25) - SNF: Cleveland Browns vs Baltimore Ravens and Oweh's Own Mention. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:25 I'm Cowboy Read. Cowboy. On today's episode, it is NFL Week 12 Recap. Chris and Nate go in-depth on Indianapolis against Tampa Bay, New England against Tennessee, Green Bay against the L.A. Rams, and Denver against the L.A. Chargers. Also, we hit our college football mentions,
Starting point is 00:01:45 a Commonwealth Cup puky review, and Chris kills the playoff chances for a pair of NFL teams. Enjoy. Do you know what this thing in my hand is? I do. What is it? It is a Virginia versus Virginia Tech ticket stub. Yeah, it means I went to the game.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Do you know what this is on the back of the ticket? I do not. That's my vomit. Oh my God. That's my fucking puke on the back of this ticket. And I'm not making this up, dude. Okay? And I'm going to pin this vomiting ticket stub from the Commonwealth Cup to the wall
Starting point is 00:03:03 until we beat those motherfuckers. This puke-covered ticket stub could be on the wall, could be 30 years. Hey, I had a hand in it. O for four against Tech. You had a hand in it. O for four. But guess what?
Starting point is 00:03:18 Tech was pretty fucking good when we lost to him. I have no idea. I'm going to try to stay out of the football part of this, but as a Virginia fan, yeah, this game sent me into a tailspin. I had a good time last night from what I remember. I went to Dirty Nellies and saw our boy shock. I had my brother Kyle with me.
Starting point is 00:03:38 When Kyle left me, he got in a car that his wife was driving, and she picked him up, and he asked, do you want to go home with me? And I said no. And I ended up just no food the whole day, couldn't eat, too nervous to eat before the game, too distracted to eat during the game. And I was just pounding Bud Light and Jack Daniels, like it was. 2012. I mean, I'm 36 years old.
Starting point is 00:04:07 I have a puky ticket stub. I woke up this morning. I walked downstairs. And I said, it's a disaster. Talking about the football game. And Meg looked at me and goes, what, you? When I tell you, I laid down at 11 o'clock at night, this football game put me to bed earlier than I've gone to bed in probably a
Starting point is 00:04:31 calendar year. I went to sleep at 11 o'clock at night, and when I laid down to go to sleep, immediately, that feeling started happening. You know, when your mouth starts watering? Yikes. I guess when I had gotten home, I hadn't eaten in so long that my body rejected my kids' meatballs that were in the refrigerator, and it wasn't settling well on a bed of Bud Light and J-Mo and Jack Daniels or whatever else Virginia fans were buying me at Dirty Nellies.
Starting point is 00:04:59 I couldn't even make it to the bathroom, man. I made it to the bathroom, and it was like, if it was an Olympic event and puking far, gold medal, bro. Gold medal. Projectile. Buddy, I have a picture of it. I'm not going to show you. Well, I'll show you. I'm not going to show the people at home because I think that's a bridge too far.
Starting point is 00:05:17 I don't want to see it. Well, fuck, you're looking at the ticket, dude. I think I just got hit with a piece of shrapnel. Oh, no, that's just an ash. That's so gross. Dude, I made it right in the threshold and puked from five feet away and it hit my, my vanity. And we have like, I remember the day we decided. We picked out our cabinetry.
Starting point is 00:05:39 And you know, when you pick out cabinetry, there's all different types of trims, right? Which at the moment, I'm kind of like, I don't give a shit. Whatever. I wanted to be aesthetically pleasing. But yeah, sure. Get the ones with the tiny creases around every cabinet. I cleaned vomit out of those creases And yeah, you got to sit there and listen to this
Starting point is 00:06:01 Just so you can feel a little bit what I felt this weekend You're disgusted? Imagine being me This is gross Imagine being me I had to get a toothbrush And clean that motherfucker for 35 minutes I had to put the rug outside We got this nice rug in our bathroom
Starting point is 00:06:15 Really ties the room together You know what I mean? Now it's outside And I found that ticket In the rolled up rug this morning to tie it all together tickets going on the wall until we can beat those motherfuckers in
Starting point is 00:06:29 Blacksburg who just came up to Charlottesville with an interim head coach the guy, no disrespect to the dude I got him mixed up with the guy who was smoking a cigar on our fucking field last night and I would too because right now they own us bro
Starting point is 00:06:44 I would too that fucking guy live it up man interim head coach came to Charlottesville and we lost on some galaxy brain shit, bro. Like the biggest galaxy brain call I have ever seen in football. I thought the game glitch, dude. I was up in the luxury suite. I looked like all those Auburn girls. Combined at once. One face, nine Auburn girls. That was me. Partially crying, partially laughing, partially
Starting point is 00:07:17 shocked, incredulous. We threw the ball to a fucking O. Lyman, a good O'Lyman, too. So, So that's one, you're not playing players to their strengths. You're throwing this good old lineman, a throwback pass in the flat where it didn't look like there was a throw option for him. We ran that against Florida in the Orange Bowl. There's tape on it. Third and nine with the game online. Set up fourth and 13.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Here we go. Who's making that call? And if you're on any headset on the sideline and you hear that call, what are you thinking as a coach? I'm going rogue. I'm going rogue. I'm like somebody in the movies who does the right thing. If I'm the quarterback, if I'm, you know, like another coach, I'm signaling the wrong
Starting point is 00:08:03 fucking play. And there's no way we're running that play. Varsity Blue style. Varsity Blue style. There was something there. I couldn't remember what I was from seeing that guy smoking a cigar, bald white guy, about the same profile. And I just, I just started shaking, man.
Starting point is 00:08:18 You know what I mean? I just started shaking. That's going to be a painful one. The image of that dude on our field smoking a cigar and good on you, I would too, is going to be stuck in my head for a little bit. Nothing like a good cigar, you know? On some galaxy brain shit. Sometimes you just auto draft, dude. I mean, like, yeah, that's the shit you do when you're bored playing the video game.
Starting point is 00:08:38 You're like, I think I'll do a throwback to the 330 pound lineman four yards behind. But here's the thing. They're sitting in zone, dude. But here's the thing. Even in a video game, not in that situation. Like, no. Just never. I'm saying like it's just it's galaxy brain stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:54 It's ridiculous. And I wanted to shout out a guy from the music resource center because I got drunk next to him at the dirty Nellys. Seems like the good thing going there at the music resource centers. Check that out in the middle of this hateful rant about tech and about how we can't. Dude, how do we? And by the way, I just want to say this. We just beat tech.
Starting point is 00:09:15 How long was the streak? 15 years? We just beat tech for the first time. I was going to bring that up. You know why we beat tech? Bryce Perkins. No, because Dr. Fax ran the flag out. Oh, you did.
Starting point is 00:09:27 And they didn't ask me to run the flag out this year. That was their first mistake this year. Their second mistake was losing to a down tech team. Like I said, back in the day, tech was pretty good day. It's some NFL players. We got beat by them. This is inexcusable. And you know what was the worst part about it was?
Starting point is 00:09:42 I know the streak was real long. Don't we want to keep the cup for a year or two? There was nobody in the fucking upper deck of that stadium, dude. I'm just laying it out there, dude. Reed, did you see that? Yeah, it was like any other tech game in Charleston. Like half of the stadium was 60% tech fans and the whole upper bowl was empty.
Starting point is 00:10:02 The only reason it was, if it was, dude, if tech was good, it would have been sold out. Yep. So all these years I heard like, oh, yeah, yeah, don't sell your tickets to Hokies, that sort of thing. I mean, fuck, this is like a home game for them. I was on the field this week. with the media pass taking pictures.
Starting point is 00:10:21 And there are a lot of pictures where in the background, it looks like this stadium is very, very empty, very empty. Yeah, it's not a good look. It's not a good look. It also doesn't help that I had like an aggressively used SUV on the game. Not like a gently used SUV because I didn't want to be like, man, he really has a problem. But walking into the game, I was like, yeah, let's push the poker chips
Starting point is 00:10:46 all the way to the middle of the table. Wow. Let's put the balls in the wheelbarrel. I'm going to live and die with Virginia, but I know these games get hairy. I'm going to bet a money line. So. And so that was-
Starting point is 00:10:56 When you see that play, like, honestly, like, what's going through your head? I'm already dead. They lost the game, so I'm not thinking about, I'm not thinking about the money I lost. And besides, speaking of dead, once I am, who cares? You know? It's just a, it's an aggressively used SUV, which I'm going to earn back on some.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Sunday chasing the entire day. So really rough for your boy. And I had to watch that thing with Macon in the suite. Macon was actually pretty calming. Usually it's the other way around. I'm the calming UVA fan. Macon's a basket case. I was running up and down freaking out.
Starting point is 00:11:36 So now that we got that out of the way, I wanted to address that elephant in the room. Yes, I'm a 36-year-old man, and I puked all over my bathroom. It's shameful. but not as shameful is losing to that tech team. So I guess I'll say hello Blacksburg. You motherfuckers earned it.
Starting point is 00:11:54 There you go. You got a hello on the Greenlight Pod. I didn't even lose a bet, bro. What's up, Blacksburg? Good for y'all. Kicked our ass. You fucking earned it. Golly.
Starting point is 00:12:06 They probably had a real good bus ride at home. Great bus ride. Great bus ride, man. Because we used to have great bus rides after lawsuits. And I feel, you know, like, I know we're having fun with it and we're being pissed off and everything. I feel for those kids, man. I feel for the coaches.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Like, there are some really good coaches on that staff. You know, one of my best friends is on that staff. His receivers had a great year. Also, Clint sent him. So it's tough, man. It's tough. You know, it's, ugh. I'm not going to let that ruin my thanksgivings anymore.
Starting point is 00:12:40 I'm not. From here on out. Think about it. The last 15, 20 years, Thanksgiving and losing to tech kind of synonymous. You're that invested? I generally care about the state of the program, man. And besides, it fucking sucks. No, but every time I meet a tech fan, you shake their hand.
Starting point is 00:12:56 They're like, went to tech. I'm like, oh, you really, you're big dick in me, huh? Like, you know, they got that smile on their face. Like, yeah, I'm a tech fan. And I know some of you motherfuckers are out here listening to the podcast, and you're snickering with your little engineering fucking insignia on your sweatshirts, weird logo, ugly buildings, hokeystone's ugly. Anything I was going to compliment you guys.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Nothing to do there. But I'm not going to lie. Uniforms are ugly. I do that with UNC fans because I won four years against UNC and that's the only thing I could hold my hat on after. Now we beat them in basketball too. Look at that. By the way, you commented on my golf hat over the Thanksgiving break.
Starting point is 00:13:40 I play golf. A lot of people have been holding their breath asking, hey, Chris, when are you going to play golf like all the other ones? guys that look like you. And they seem to love it. I can't get into it. All right. I played one hole of golf, played one, five, six shots of the golf. I made a couple hundred dollars off of Matt Conrad. Thank you very much. My first shot was like a walk off and I left the table. Why can't I do that with football gambling? But the game is just, it's too frustrating. And a lot of people, you know, framed it to me as like, hey, you'll get so frustrated. You're such a competitor.
Starting point is 00:14:15 you're not going to be able to stop. Dude, I stopped in one hole. It's just not important. And honestly, I think it's kind of like a Jerry Falwell thing. I'm like to watch golf. I like to ride along. I don't like to first read's eyes back there. What do you think, Reed?
Starting point is 00:14:37 Should we be pulling that, you think? My fantasy football team is called the Liberty Cuckolds, bro. So I'm going to be honest. You like watching other dudes. play with their shafts. No, I just, it's a golf. Yeah, that's a really good, Reed. I like, uh, I like to watch golf.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I don't like to participate. And it's kind of like bass fishing to me or any kind of fishing, you know. There's two things, uh, I'm the whitest dude in the world in a lot of ways. I don't like golf and I don't like fishing. And I love going along to do both those things and watch my friends do both those things, but I don't, you know, watch your friends put their balls into holes rather than you're really on a role here, huh? you're like watching your friends
Starting point is 00:15:18 fuck the golf is that what's coming next I just I don't I don't we'll get to the NFL in a second man it's been a we it's been a long we didn't even really do a podcast the other day so these guys take the take day I didn't even listen read how'd you do in the open
Starting point is 00:15:36 to that Robert Mathis I bet you did yeah I hit each one of your talking points you asked me to hit I hope you all enjoyed that Robert Mathis interview he was awesome dude i hadn't talked to him that long in my entire life met him once or twice and thought he was real cool but um enjoyed talking shop with him and congrats to him he now is in the indianapolis colts ring of honor he is oh awesome congrats yeah robert mathis man deserves that deserves the hall of fame so we'll be on the lookout for that but yeah golf the reviews are
Starting point is 00:16:07 mixed i love riding in that's it's i love right in that cart ride along let my buddy tom play that's a that's a rich man's sport though it's just it's expensive it's very, very time consuming. It's very time to consume. I don't have time. I like going to the driving range or you got to try top golf or what's the in Richmond. They have, it's called something else, but it's all the same thing. That's fun.
Starting point is 00:16:29 What, like top golf? Yeah. I would do top golf in a heartbeat. Because it's like you can play, they have different games and like virtual games you can play where it's not like the same. Top golf feels kind of like bowling where you shoot and then you go hang out for a little bit. Exactly. Fuck, I got to hit again.
Starting point is 00:16:43 And there's somebody behind us. Like, oh man, like I got to hurry up Because these two guys Oh, I can't play my music too loud Like do I ride past people when they're shooting Do I not? No, but Top Golf's not like that Yeah, no, top golf is buttoned
Starting point is 00:16:56 Is button down You're in your booth It's like your own section Turn the music up Watch what you want to watch We go to Top Golf as a Yeah, we got to figure out the name of the right one that's in Richmond
Starting point is 00:17:08 Yeah, we got Google for that We got 538 to figure out Who's supposed to be in the playoffs We're going to get to that too and a couple college football things here. My Beville Conway right off the bat, Ohio State, Michigan, and the snow. That's gorgeous right there. That is.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And the best possible uniform matchup. I think watching a game, that Ariel that Ralph posted the other day on our Greenlight account, by the way, go follow that. Like it, subscribe to it. Shout out to Ralph. How's that sound, huh, Reed? Did I really fuck that promo there? Yeah, you grabbed that one by the shaft and took care of it.
Starting point is 00:17:44 I read. That Michigan Stadium is gorgeous. I hear it's not that loud, but it's beautiful. And when those flakes started falling, you get the home blue tops for Michigan and you get the away uniforms,
Starting point is 00:17:59 which are the best two for those two teams, respectively. It's beautiful. And Aiden Hutchinson is a white pass rusher. So Aidan Hutchinson, unfortunately, draws Chris Long comparisons for him. That's unfortunate.
Starting point is 00:18:13 but um he played really well but aden hutchinson like fucking bawled out and what a good time to play well because i saw a tweet this week that was like oh people should be talking about aidan hutchinson over the guy at oregon i'm sure aden hutchinson would tell you look at that motherfucker walk around and play like just like walking on the field i'm taking that guy and i might end up being dead wrong but i'll be like everybody else the timidoh hype like just watching the length that that guy has, the twitchiness, the Ben, like, I spent 11 years without some of those things, and I would give my right arm to be Thibodeo athletically. Hayden Hutchinson is a hell of an athlete, he's a hell of a football player, and he played
Starting point is 00:19:02 really well this Saturday. He put some guy in a recliner, dude. Like, by that, I mean, he just ran him the fuck over, and the dude was sitting in an imaginary recliner. Truckstick. Yeah, just trucked him. Good time to play well. I'm going to give it a worst plane ride right now to the entire state of North Carolina. We'll get to the Panthers in a little bit.
Starting point is 00:19:22 But holy shit, go look at the end of that NC State UNC game. Okay. I don't know how it ended score-wise because that was Friday night. It's been a couple days now there's been a lot of football. But I bought NC State to minus three. And when you go look at the way that game ended, I think there was what had to happen, Reed. Do you remember? It was a 99.9% game for UNC to win.
Starting point is 00:19:52 UNC kick to field go to go up 30, 21. Yep. Then NC State scored a touchdown. It took 37 seconds. Yep. Deep ball down the left sideline. That's right. There was 135 left after that touchdown 3028 UNC.
Starting point is 00:20:08 UNC State then gets the onside. Got an onside kick, dude. they score with 109 left they go up 3430 yeah unc gets the ball they're driving driving driving get down to the nc state 30 and same how old there's an interception
Starting point is 00:20:26 yes dude it was a thing of beauty for me because I was on nc state I bought to three and I was sitting there with with meg and like meg knows I probably might have action on some games uh but i wasn't there's some games I'm not like hey at the moment I want to tell you that I'm a total dumbass in unc is throttling NC State.
Starting point is 00:20:44 And I'm so good at this. And I'm, you know, like, it's emasculating when you tell your wife that you're just getting hammered on a bet. And so, like, we watched this whole game together right to the end. I'm just sitting there quietly. After the final whistle, I was like, I had NC State. And she was like, oh, my God, good for you. So I watched the end of a game that actually turned out well with Meg.
Starting point is 00:21:06 And I'll give the worst plane ride to UNC or bus ride. however you got back to Chapel Hill that had to be miserable the way they lost that football game I love comebacks and fluky shit love it I have not seen a lot of endings like that one so go back and check those highlights out keep it in college um the facts deal of the week is gonna
Starting point is 00:21:27 this week is gonna go to the entire Air Force Air Force offense you can't just be sliding deals of the weekend with no like it's a new segment here he's just hey is that a deal of week is deal of the week a thing now Yeah, bro. Do we just make deal of the week a thing?
Starting point is 00:21:42 Yeah, bro. So who the fuck is getting the inaugural deal of the week? And what does it mean, dude? Air Force, the entire offense. The deal of the week is going to usually be one person. Yeah. But this week, it's the entire Air Force offense. They beat UNLV with 511 Russian yards with six touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:22:02 And the best part about it, they never passed the ball the entire game. That's some absolutely disrespectful shit. I mean, so disrespectful, especially like... The definition of run the damn ball. You know what, the UNLV respecting the troops? I have no problem with that. No problem with that. Let the troops, the troops want to run?
Starting point is 00:22:24 You guys want to run? Which is ironic because these are the troops that fly. These troops want to run, the guys that fly want to run? They want to run every fucking play. Just let them do it. I remember back when we're in college going against Georgia Tech and that triple option. And I just...
Starting point is 00:22:38 Oh, my God. I was so happy I missed Paul Johnson, bro. Paul Johnson would, like, it's just, you look at those games. I remember one year you played them in the rain? Yeah. And you played pretty well that game. I had, like, my best college games against them. Yeah, you played well.
Starting point is 00:22:52 I like to play against the run. Yeah, well, good for you. I do too, but it wasn't making me any money to play a triple option team. So I was really glad we missed Paul Johnson, but deal of the week for sure. They need to do a highlight reel and dub Lee Greenwood over that shit. just just just 511 yards that's terrible so deal of the week good
Starting point is 00:23:14 okay next week I'll be getting another deal of the week yeah we're gonna we're gonna keep this thing going now don't forget to do a deal of the week I don't want to if you forget next week then pop up with it with deal of the week in two weeks we got to keep this thing going no we're gonna keep it going I got you cool might even do a social
Starting point is 00:23:28 a graphic or something also Lincoln Riley leaving for USC Bob Stoops is going to coach in the bowl game, which is just one of those bizarre things. Like, you know how many times Bob Stoops has probably dreamt about coaching football again? The way we like for the first couple years in retirement,
Starting point is 00:23:46 you have those recurring dreams of still playing or something. Yeah, the way that game ended yesterday, they should let grow coach the bowl game this year. Oh, man. How about that? I'm throwing that out there. How about that? They got to be better, man.
Starting point is 00:24:00 They got to be better. They've got to be better. Off the top rope. Bob Stoops, man. You think about that? It's kind of interesting. I didn't understand it when you read the headline. You're just, you kind of like, you feel like you skip something or something.
Starting point is 00:24:20 I feel like he's being there for his daughter whose husband left. You know what I mean? Like, he's there. He's like a father figure for that university. He's like, and it's not that Lincoln was left in a bad way, but maybe it just didn't work out. and oh you needs him and he's he's there for them he's very paternal i've heard great things about bob stoop's supposedly just one of the best and sam bradford says bob stoop's one of the best and bob stoop's is a friend of mine bob stoop's please come on the show i'm inviting you on the show
Starting point is 00:24:51 after your big bowl win but wait wait like so he he he's going to be the interim coach so how do the other coaches feel about this like if i'm on the coaching staff and the head coach leaves Bob fucking Stoops. Hell no. What? Hell no. Hell no. If I'm on the staff and I think that, oh, I'm up next or I'm whatever it is and the headman
Starting point is 00:25:14 leaves and you guys go back? I get your point. I have a problem, but I'm not saying a word, dude. If I have a problem, I'm not saying a word. That's Bob Stoops. What are you going to say? I'd be a better interim head coach than Bob Stoops. I don't care how long he's been out of football, dude.
Starting point is 00:25:30 He's Bob Stoops. Bob Stoops wants to, if Bob Stoops, who has. whoever the next coach is, if Bob Stoops wants to drive the car for a night, Bob Stoops should be able to walk in the building, especially if this goes well, Bob Stoop should get a pass to coach whenever he wants. You guys are crazy. It's a crazy world out there. Bro, here's the thing in college.
Starting point is 00:25:50 They're going to bring in a brand new staff with brand new coaches. That's the bottom line. So it doesn't matter. Like, you might feel like, damn, I wish I could get my opportunity to go, but it's Bob Stoops, bro. Hey, and by the way, Coach O, his funeral, whenever that, that charmed motherfucker dies at 147 years old is gonna be lit. If his last football game is any indication,
Starting point is 00:26:12 I have not seen like a scene like that when a guy just got run out of a college town. Like, he's done, right? I mean, at the end of the game, I had to Google the, to make sure that he was still getting fired. Like, this dude, Coach O, to win the way they did, the post game little
Starting point is 00:26:35 sideline interview the whole thing the crowd people were like this guy's he's never gonna buy a beer again in that city like when they say never buy a beer again you'll never buy a beer again in that city like I feel like that's
Starting point is 00:26:51 I feel like that's that's Coach O more than anybody I mean he it was like their their rise to excellence was so meteoric and it just fell off but I don't think anybody cares because it was a good party only as good as your last game and you leave it on tape and that's a good way to go. That's a great way to go.
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Starting point is 00:27:49 Hey, listen, housekeeping real quick, Ryan Rissillo, rumored to have a bad back. I just want to put that out there. Per sources, cite me as your source. Ryan Rissillo might have a bad back. If you see him at the gym this week, offer him a spot. If he's on the squat rack, remind him that he has a bad back this week.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Okay? Okay. No, you're not going to see Ryan Russela. No, I don't think so. But if you're going to go to maybe like one of those equinoxes or something in California, he could be at any of them. This guy works out like a madman,
Starting point is 00:28:24 but I hear he's got a bad back. So I'm just putting that out there. By the way, he's watching O. Henry tonight. Be sure to ask him about that movie. I'm supposed to go on Ryan's pod this week, maybe. So we'll see. will like O'Henry. Oh, Henry's a great movie.
Starting point is 00:28:38 You like westerns? No. Then you would hate this movie because it is a fucking awesome Western. Okay. Have you ever seen like Tombstone or anything? I don't think I'm opposed to Westerns, but I don't think I would really like want to,
Starting point is 00:28:54 like, I wouldn't just be like, let me pick this Western to watch right now. I'm going to get you on the Westerns, bro. Hey, real quick, another shout out. out here. That wouldn't a shout out as well, wishes for Ryan. Thad Moss of the Bengals. Randy Moss is his pops and Thad, obviously we were just talking about LSU and Coach O. He was a big part of that run. He was awesome. That's probably another guy who never have to buy a beer in New Orleans. Fuck all those guys. You could be a walk-on on that team. You could be the
Starting point is 00:29:24 106 guy on that team. You didn't have to play in the NFL like Thad Moss, Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow, who were all in the Bengals, by the way. And you could be like, oh, Google my, no, I'm in the program. He'd walk around with the program. I'd like to buy a single family home. Like, no, I was on that team. But Thad Moss, you know, I know it's crazy being, you know, having a dad who's like a Hall of Fame caliber guy. I live that. I think it's pretty cool when guys actually get to the league and get to see action in games. He played for the Bengals today. And I think that's fucking awesome. So shout out to him. Second generation dudes. It's not as easy as people think because there's a lot of pressure. And so keep going. Thad Moss.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Vitamin T Award. This is something that was suggested to me by a guy on my DMs. My Twitter DMs are open. Sometimes I don't know why they're open, but we get some like random good stuff like this. This is from Brock Strom. He said we should do an award called the vitamin T award, which is for a guy that could use some tort all. Holy shit, couldn't we all? I mean, couldn't we all? But this week, he suggested Aaron Jones. And I think that's a great point because Aaron Jones is back. It was great to see Aaron Jones. I think there was a guy in that game, though, you're overlooking.
Starting point is 00:30:39 It's the guy that looks like he can't stand up straight and throw a football. I mean, I buy the Matt Stafford's hurt thing. I'm not taking him off the hook because I know he's got, even when he's healthy, he's had a pattern of behavior sometimes where he's a little careless with the football and late in the season. The whole thing, I get it. We'll talk about that a little bit, but I like the vitamin T award. And this week, yeah, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:30:59 You, hey, you named it, Brock. We're going to give it to Aaron Jones. I know he had that vitamin T. Maybe Aaron Rogers, actually. We might have overlooked two guys. The guy who couldn't stand up straight in the guy who had his foot on camera the other day. He was on a Quentin Tarantino fucking job interview.
Starting point is 00:31:21 What are you talking about? Yeah, just Google it. Okay. And then the nightcap, I want to give out a big nightcap. to Robert Quinn. Nightcap is something we've been giving out to great rushers, guys that you want to tip the cap too as we record on a Sunday night. Robert Quinn feels like a year ago was playing in that Thanksgiving game against the Detroit Lions. By the way, epic, epic,
Starting point is 00:31:45 underwhelming job by the lines. I mean, they didn't even look like they were, they were trying to win that game, but they were not aggressive. And I've been really supportive of Dan, and I think he's the right guy and everything, but that was not the best showing down to the timeouts and just. just the entire kind of attitude of that game. Robert Quinn is in his 30s now. He was my bookend in St. Louis. I saw him.
Starting point is 00:32:07 We talked about this, Robert Mathis, have 19 sacks on a fucking sub-500 team. Nobody saw it. And he put together a string of years where he was arguably the best rusher in the NFL. And that was in a time, and I'm talking about Russia. That was in a time where J.J. Watt had this dominant run.
Starting point is 00:32:28 and there were years where you could argue that Robert Quinn was as dominant as JJ. Not for that long, but Rob is one of the best, most underrated rushers the last 10 to 15 years in the NFL. And here's a quick start for you. What? Me and Rob were on the same all,
Starting point is 00:32:47 first team, all-ACC team. No way. Yes, sir. Really? Class of 2009, all-ACC. When he got drafted, and I saw his D-Line one-on-one pass rest tape. I was like, God, I hope he plays right end. Holy shit. Anyways, Robert Quinn, that's my dude. And like, I think people should consider him as one of the most underrated defensive players
Starting point is 00:33:11 of the last 10 to 20 years because he's played in obscurity. He's at 95 sacks, dude. He's got Hall of Fame type numbers, but he's never been on winning teams. So I hope that at some point, two things happen. People give him his flowers and that he gets to win. So I love Rob, and he was still balling out the other day. He looks ageless, bro. He had multiple surgeries and he had back stuff. You don't come back from that stuff. He's crushing it.
Starting point is 00:33:39 All right, so it's time to get rid of some teams. It's time to, we can't say the word, kill the teams, but we're just killing their chances of being actual contenders this year. We started doing this last week. You remember this? Yeah. With the sound from the movie. Game of Thrones?
Starting point is 00:33:57 No, see, maybe you don't remember. I do. Okay, it was a joke. What was it? No, I'm just, I really can't remember the name of the movie. Oh, it's Hunger Games. Hunger Games, right. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Hunger Games. Look at it. Shout out to Ed Bass Master, but like... I still have never seen the movie. I'll have to watch it. Good movie. Yeah. It's a little over the top at times.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Okay. I can't, I can't really speak on this series. I'm conflating one, two, and three. Okay. But Jennifer Lawrence is great. The guy, the State TV guy on the stage is pretty, pretty memorable. pretty memorable. Sometimes when I'm watching cable television, I think about that guy in Hunger Games. I'm like, everybody is just like, we live in a simulation. But anyways, we're going to play that
Starting point is 00:34:37 that sound that they play when somebody got, when somebody got eliminated in that game. And I'm going to play it today for the, the Panthers and the Steelers. So first, one time for the Steelers, Cowboy. Yeah, it's over for the Steelers. Matt's been our 538 guy. By the way, I went on the mean of Com's pod the other day. It was weird. She has 538 too. She was using all the same numbers we used. I thought that was an exclusive thing that only we had. She's a friend of the program.
Starting point is 00:35:10 She's a front of the program. We read the data to her. Yeah. Steelers are what, Matt? What percentage? Well, the Steelers are now only about 9% to make the playoffs. They're sitting there at 5, 5 and 1. That tie really hurts them because they could be tied with the Chargers and Broncos and Raiders at 6 and 5.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Oh, my God. But now they're kind of behind the 8 ball because of that tie, so they're probably dead. the lions killed the Steelers by tying them. That is just high drama. And you know who else kills the Steelers? Joe Burrow every time he plays him. On the year, Joe Burrow is 34 of 42 for 362 and four touchdowns. And he didn't really even have to be throwing the ball that much in the second half
Starting point is 00:35:48 because they were up 24-3 out of the gate. First four possessions, Bengals scored. Got jumped in the jungle, these Steelers. These two organizations are two ships passing the night. Like totally right now. And I'm not saying the Steelers aren't a great organization. I'm just saying that the direction of these football teams is very different. In fact, they're totally different.
Starting point is 00:36:09 One team has a quarterback who probably just played his last meaningful football game in that uniform. His name is Ben Rathlisberger. They are not going to make the playoffs. And honestly, I think the Chargers made them look more dangerous than they actually are last week. When you show up to SINC in division and you get punked like that, dude, when you know this is your last chance like this is the cornered animal thing dude
Starting point is 00:36:35 and you you don't fight like a cornered animal at least on the field or you don't execute like it and so this is totally the Bengals division if they won it I mean like the next 10 years the thing that they have on the flip side that the Steelers don't have because you're going to have to replace Ben and that's a big question mark I don't know and you've won enough games in a down quarterback year
Starting point is 00:36:55 in the draft that I have no idea what you do you're going to have to develop somebody or hit on somebody that none of us knew would be that good. So it's going to be a long offseason. They've got to figure some things out. On the other end, just keep Joe Burrow healthy. You'll be in every game. You want to be in the next 10 to 15 years, dude.
Starting point is 00:37:10 I'm just telling you, this guy, I've said it before, and people are going to say, you're so reactive. He just reminds me of Brady, dude. He reminds me of Brady. I'm not saying he's going to be Tom Brady. Some of you don't read well or listen well. I'm not saying he's going to be the goat, but he has those.
Starting point is 00:37:25 I didn't say he reminds me of Aaron Rogers. You know, the guy who's, like a jugs machine that runs 17 miles an hour. Like I'm just saying the guy's poise, his pocket mobility, his killer instinct. You know what I love about Joe Burrow? He's got those dead eyes, bro. When Joe Burrow, when you see that look in Joe Burrow's eyes,
Starting point is 00:37:46 I don't care how stupid it is to lock up with T.J. Watt and try to fucking, like, wrestle with one of the best defensive players in the game. Who you're going to see every year? He did not fucking. Joe Burrow doesn't give a shit, dude. He gets so shark eyes. dude. Joe Burrow was like on, you know, like a gambler and a sports book who just can't get enough and they're buzzing. That's what it was early in the game. Joe just wanted to kill. He wanted to
Starting point is 00:38:08 score. Heaters. You know, he just, he was on a heater and he threw that pick and he was just malfunctioning. He just started attacking TJ Wong, dude. I was like, I love this guy, but he's the official quarterback of the Greenlight Pod now, I think. And I, you know we're big Justin Herbert fan boys here, but God damn, I don't love me some. That draft class is going to be the best thing in a football. I think so. You might not be five of them, but those two are amazing, and he got those shark guys today. Largest
Starting point is 00:38:37 halftime lead since 2009 for the Bengals. Steel or killer? And Kyle Guy, our guy, Kyle Guy, big shout out to him. I love Kyle Guy, not just because he just had the stones to sink those free throws, the whole nine yards against Auburn.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Some of the great plays he made over that run that made us national champions and made the football bullshit sting a little less at Virginia. He also knows football and he's a loyal Bengals fan. There's certain NFL teams that when I meet their fans, I respect them on an index, like immediately. What's your knowledge level?
Starting point is 00:39:13 You know, how loyal are you? Maybe what kind of fan are you? He's a Bengals fan, dude. He's a young Bengals fan. Bengals fans are supposed to be old enough to have seen Boomer Assize and play. So Kyle Guy is a loyal, hopefully listener of the pod. It might be a bopper He's also a good dude
Starting point is 00:39:31 And he wanted me a shout out Trey Hendrickson And so Kyle you got it dude This is like when Tom Seguera He had a really funny bit about people DMing him to like try jokes And that sort of thing That you know like if you tell me
Starting point is 00:39:46 You should talk about this I'm probably gonna feel the same way Tom feels about that But somebody like Kyle Guy He knows his football Trey Hendrickson is a great rusher There was a time Where there was a yeah but
Starting point is 00:39:58 He was in New Orleans. He was opposite Cam Jordan. And people oftentimes, they over-emphasize, oh, I got a great edge rusher the other side of me. When you have a great rusher inside, like right inside and that three technique, that's what makes you a better player. Certainly it helped to have Cam on the other side, but obviously he's pretty damn good in his own right
Starting point is 00:40:21 because he's up near the top of the NFL in Sacks. He forced three turnovers stay on his own. Nobody's done that all year through pressure. Through pressure, read. That was an interesting stat, and I like that. But it matters, man. So this guy's making game affecting plays. He plays his ass off.
Starting point is 00:40:37 He's got great hands. And he's really worked his way into being one of the best rushers in the league. And I think that it's time that people recognize Trey Hendrickson as such, and there's no yeah-butts at the end. Now, I'm not saying he's going to do this 10 years at this rate, but you got to call it how you see it. He's one of the best right now. Panthers, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:57 give him the the Jennifer Lawrence treatment give the Panthers the J-law give Matt Ruhle the J-law who's not real popular right now you bench cam today I'm not going to comment on some of the throws okay but
Starting point is 00:41:15 what I did see was like 5 for 21 which is the lowest completion rate for 20 plus attempts since 2004 actually I know why Matt Ruhle pulled him because Joey Harrington went 5 of 22 in 2004 and that would suck
Starting point is 00:41:31 So actually Matt Rule was doing Cam a favor. Some days you have off days. Cam makes them better. I do believe that. It is early in this fucked up weird experiment that's never going to have enough time to actually bear fruit. It's early and it's late for the Panthers.
Starting point is 00:41:46 In fact, it's over. Their chances, Matt, Matt Nakke, that's what I'm gonna call you now? Matt Nackie. Like Cornacki, you get it and your name's Matt? Telling me the numbers. I get it. It's brilliant.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Thank you. I appreciate it, Matt, Nacky. Yeah, so the Panthers are now, sitting at five and seven. 538 still gives them a 6% chance of making the playoffs, but in reality, they're almost have no path unless they were
Starting point is 00:42:11 to win out. There's six teams that are sitting six or five or better, and then you still have the Vikings, Falcons, and Saints above them at five and six. Washington plays your today, they could be five and six, so it's just a really rough path for the Panthers. Tough path for the Panthers. In fact, it's over, and you
Starting point is 00:42:27 get the worst playing ride because, you know, it's like shutdown season. I'm just telling you, Like the CAM move, did they sign CAM just for Clout in Charlotte? Did they sign CAM to make us forget that they gave up? Which I might at one point casually been like, yeah, fuck, why not? So I'm not saying like I had any good idea. I thought Darnold would be better than he was in New York in somewhere like Carolina. And he just wasn't.
Starting point is 00:42:52 When CMC left, he looked totally different. And I should have expected that. So I'm not saying I was right. I'm just saying in retrospect for the front office dudes on the plane ride home for Tepper for rule for the guys to make the decisions they're probably
Starting point is 00:43:09 feeling pretty shitty about that Sam Darnold thing they waited too long to pull the plug on it they gave up a two and a four in 2020 and a sixth in 2021 so marketing they did that to put fans in the stands yeah they did they did for the rest of the season no but it also makes them better as a football team it really does like
Starting point is 00:43:28 that today wasn't their day and we'll talk about the surging dolphins, but, but they were in such a bad spot. You know, if Cam doesn't turn the ball over, which on day like today was a big if, they can at least be competitive. But last week, I said this after the Washington game. Somebody said, would you rather have Taylor Heineke or Cam Newton on a Sunday this year? And I'll, y'all know what I was hinting at. And I'm just out of respect for Cam. I want to see it for a couple weeks. Now two weeks in a row. Would you rather have Tua or Cam right now? And I know he was an MVP. I know he's one of the best of all time and probably should be a Hall of Famer if you really
Starting point is 00:44:02 look hard enough at it. But people have to realize how hard it is to play that position and to just jump in to the flow and into a locker room and have everything else going on. You just, we don't know where Ken was living at before this. He's moving. He has family. He has all this stuff going on. But just the football wise, just having to get everything in a playbook, be on the same page with your wide receivers, learning calls and audibles and things like that. That's very hard to do just mid-season. Yeah, no question. Versus you hear about how they bitch about guys not wanting to do camp and guys who sit out and how vital that type of stuff is. Well, he didn't do camp. He didn't do the whole first half of the season with this team. Like,
Starting point is 00:44:49 some of these receivers haven't even gotten a practice ball thrown to them in like a scrimmage type situation yet, like because he just hasn't had the time yet to do it. So that's just a hard situation to get thrown into. They're not setting them up to succeed, but there's a lot of things good about that football team. So it's like on some levels, I think, you've got to be excited about some things there, defense, the young core. And then on the other hand, you don't know who your quarterback's going to be.
Starting point is 00:45:16 And the guy of the future is not on the team. And as they're riding back on the plane, they probably can't help but think about the Sam Darnel, what if. they probably can't help but think damn how do we get out of this deal because we're not going to the playoffs now it's going to be a weird end of the season there's a you know a whatever 6% chance read and they're a second half team the dolphins right
Starting point is 00:45:36 yeah in 2020 they started 3 and 3 they finished 10 and 6 in 2021 they started 1 and 7 and now they're 4 and 7 5 and 7 now okay yeah so again McCaffrey in a boot shut down if he's shut down the team They're shutting down business there. So I'm not gonna ride the wave of Cam every week. So I'm sorry, like I will talk about Cam sometimes.
Starting point is 00:45:59 I will talk about the Panthers, but they're out of it, dude. They're out of it. And so I'm not gonna go up and down with this thing. Still, utmost respect for Cam. It's just not, it's just not happening. I don't, like, it's not happening for this team. It's too late. So if you ask the Miami Herald, it's not.
Starting point is 00:46:17 And by the way, Tua has played really well, back to back 80% completion attempts. I know that we need to get those old YPA's up if you're Tua. That's been the thing on him that like, hey, he's just dinking and dunking. He doesn't even want to throw the ball deep. And I know that they don't have a lot of weapons
Starting point is 00:46:34 and that sort of thing. But pretty good couple games for him. I'm thinking that. Especially with you think you think Cam's got it? Man, Tua has just been. I'm thinking Tua just hasn't been 100% healthy and
Starting point is 00:46:49 he's maybe getting healthier as season progresses. Well, if he's not 100% of healthy, I'm really respecting him more and more because I have not seen any tweets with very specific allusions to his injury status. Because that's what everybody does now. For sure, maybe they're doing a good job about hiding it. I just wish there was a Twitter when I was playing hurt. Because holy shit, dude. Man, I was shooting up a high ankle sprain for eight, nine weeks. Couldn't walk during the week. Do you know, I would have Adam Schefter.
Starting point is 00:47:23 What's the new award? would have been the new, the T, what is it, the T vitamin? The BIDB, I'd be the Vitamin T Award. The vitamin T award every week. You couldn't get those back when I played. So, anyways, the dolphins, I want to read this from the Miami Herald. The Miami Dolphins are in a role and put together perhaps their best performance of the season, Sunday with a 30 to 10 win against the Carolina Panthers at Hard Rock Stadium.
Starting point is 00:47:44 They scored a season high in points nap, three interceptions and piled up five sacks, and even scored on special news, yada, yada, yada, we go on and on. the dolphins 5 and 7 are now just two wins away from reaching 500 after starting the season 1 and 7 and they'll have a real chance to do it with back-to-back games against the last place New York Giants, the New York Jets and the Miami in Miami Gardens. Look at the Miami Herald being all uppity about the fucking dolphins. Holy shit, dude. You have a 9% chance.
Starting point is 00:48:16 They'll even be pretty significant favorites in their next two games against the Giants. Let's give them two more wins and say they get back to 500 next. month we're just playing around here their chances would still only climb to 12 percent that's the most important fucking science in the Miami Herald article I like my chances of pulling a Beckettin Charzard so you said that earlier we were looking at things like that have a higher chance of of happening than then the dolphins making the playoffs and yeah and I said me pulling a Beckett 10 so what the fuck is that that's a Charzard but obviously in pristine condition and the thing about
Starting point is 00:48:52 The thing about these cards are the way they're printed. Oh, it's a, it's a Pokemon. Yeah, it's a Pokemon. Yeah, it's a, everyone knows what Charzard. No, I don't think so. I think so. Well, you're talking to somebody. I guess I'm not in it counting into everyone.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Reed, did you know what a Charzard was? I did. I used to have a Charzard back when I was about 10 years old. No way. In my book of Pokemon cards. See that? Holy shit, Matt, did you have Pokemon too? No, I never had Pokemon.
Starting point is 00:49:22 on cards, but I didn't know what a Charzard is. He's a sports card. Holy shit, look at me the square with no Charzard knowledge. It's hard to blame the Miami Harold for being excited. I mean, they do have sole possession of 13th place in the AFC. No, I mean, listen, and the AFC is deep this year. But here's a deal. It's also 9% chance.
Starting point is 00:49:43 9% chance. Did you know that the chances of your condom breaking, your rubber malfunctioning for you out there who are sexually active, it's higher than the chances of the dolphins making the playoffs. There's a 45% chance this comes from Taylor. I'll throw you under the bus here because I'm pretty certain it's wrong. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:50:04 45% chance that there's alien life. How do they even equate that? Oh, oh, it's 100% too, by the way. Yeah, that's way off. So anyways, so Miami Herald, let's not get out over our skis here, dude, getting all uppity on the Jets and the Giants. Let's give them two wins here. Boy, they get excited quick in Miami.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Just ready to win. And the Jets just won. The Jets is riding high. Jets are riding high. And we'll get to that game that so many of you saw. And just a few. The Eagles have cratered, man. That sucks because this was a big game.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Okay. Here's the deal. Jalen had played better the last two weeks. I had gotten quoted as saying if he plays like this they'll make the decision it'll make the decision really hard on Howie I got a few reactions
Starting point is 00:50:57 one that this is like a Jalen Hertz is the guy of the future 10 year plan type thing if you've listened to anything I've said good to have your options open this off season and I'm saying that respectfully because I think Jalen has got some potential but I don't know the people in Philly have enough time
Starting point is 00:51:13 you know to see this thing through and I don't know that the football team is talented enough quite frankly to see this thing through in his development. And I think if you're Howie Roseman, you feel like you've got to do something. Howie Roseman has an itch to do something. You know what I'm saying? Like Howie Roseman has GMADD.
Starting point is 00:51:34 And at times I mean that is like a compliment. And he would probably tell you this too. Like Howie Roseman is trying to win all the time. And he's damn sure not going to let this offseason go by after, you know, a game like that, if there's more of these over the next four to five games, because they're a game away from getting the J-law treatment. They're a game away from getting the hunger games noise.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Here's the worst part about it. Howie's feeling the heat because Twitter was going crazy today. I had to hit you up and ask you, hey, why is there fire Howie trending? And you thought it was my dad. That's just fucking real wholesome. You were concerned about it. I was like, dang, what did he say?
Starting point is 00:52:17 Last week I hit you up and I was like, yo, your pops not on the show this week. And he's like, yo, he took a week off. He's fine. And then this week, I'm online and I just see Fire Howie. It's a little bit unsettling for me to. And it's also both Howey's like I don't have a Howie Mandel connection. But most of the Howies that are relevant in the football world, I have a connection to. So it's fucking weird.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Like the hard part that makes Jalen hurts a guy who's likely, to be moved or competition brought in for is because you're also sweating the wide receiver stuff. Like, Howie has a lot of heat on him. So he's going to feel like he has to make a move. That's just the way I see the situation. I have no knowledge of it. Me and Howie don't talk much.
Starting point is 00:53:02 We're super cordial. I like Howie. We won a Super Bowl together, but I don't hit up Howie all the time. I see him when I go to Philly or whatever, like for the game. Well, I don't get insight from Howie. I don't know what he wants to do. I'm just saying, I know the fans are on his,
Starting point is 00:53:15 ass about Jefferson and Rager. Okay, could have had Justin Jefferson drafted Rager, who, by the way, it doesn't help that, and I'll give him the Hollow Man this week, and I'll do this really respectfully. He dropped three balls today, two of them in the end zone, and two of them on the last drive. So, like, calling it how I see it, this is really tough in Philly. And I've been the main one to be like, hey, Jalen Raker could, you got to be patient with draft picks and all this stuff. But it looks like it's getting late early for him to use that term again. And the Metcalf and J.J. Artega, white side mix up if you will in the draft as well like that's bearing down on how he too so on a game like today when the knife is twisted on the wide receiver thing and jalen hurts is just throwing the ball
Starting point is 00:53:57 the other team seriani even was like i give him a really poor grade which was pretty straight up now nick seriani to be fair followed that up by saying like we also sucked as coaches bad game for them and under pressure he was four of ten with two picks um the damn 50 50 50 50 plan is still working except that they found a way to lose. 6.3 carry. They're running the damn ball. But your best player on offense on that last series
Starting point is 00:54:24 wanted the ball. And his name's Devante Smith. He's the best player that's going to play the longest in an Eagles uniform. Some of your best players are guys like Lane Johnson, Jason Kelsey. You know, Lane Johnson is an excellent football player.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Devante Smith is very young and very good and he's going to be very good for a long time. So you got to keep him happy. So on that last drive when he's not only asking for the ball and he's visibly upset, the reports are saying it's his best, it's one of his best buddies and I'm not trying to make anything over that, but that's a tricky situation. Your friends, like maybe it's easier for them to get over that hump, but he was wide open on the ball that went to Jalen Rager. And just not Jalen's best day and he's in a big spot for him and for the future in the short
Starting point is 00:55:13 term of the franchising and the decisions they have to make. Now, they're just going up and down 95 the next month. I think they could still get in. They lose one more game. No, Washington, New York, Washington, the Jets, Dallas. Like, they could probably lose one game, but it can't be next week, and it can't be the week after. In fact, it can only be to Dallas.
Starting point is 00:55:33 23% chance. Of going to playoff? Yep. So you're saying there's a chance? Saying there's a chance. So anyways, also those folks are watching the draft pick on the other end with the Colts, and we'll talk about that Colts game. And there were some teams that were already fishing.
Starting point is 00:55:47 I've already gone fishing. There was a team today, two teams that had to, they were usurped by coverage of the Nutcracker for five minutes. No bullshit. Matt Ryan does not deserve this. Matt Ryan plays for the Falcons, possibly a Hall of Famer, playing the Jaguars. His career in Atlanta is probably coming to an end.
Starting point is 00:56:07 And the guys downstairs were trying to watch the game, and they had to watch five minutes of the Nutcracker. before they actually put that football game on. But speaking of fishing, they have my man Jackson DeVille hanging on the rope of the damn zip line like a piece of bait. Yeah, no question. Yeah, Jackson DeVille had a tough day. We talked about this before.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Like, that's why I asked the question. I wonder what his insurance plan is like, because if, God forbid, if something like this happens and it doesn't end in a way that someone could save him, like, what are they going to do? Well, I mean, that's going to be a tough scene. It's just going to be a tough scene in Jacksonville. So they really, they need to take care of that guy or gal that's repelling. Piratechetics, like cables, things like that, and Florida, they don't mix. Like, I feel like you should get a certain type of insurance if you're going to be a mascot
Starting point is 00:57:02 or somebody that rides a fucking motorcycle in a cat outfit or dunks a basketball off a trampoline in a game. You should be more highly compensated in the state of Florida. Florida. I think so. Speaking of mascots, we should have shouted out our cab man, the dude who rides the horse. And we, let's do it right now, Kim Kersnick, his last game riding the horse at UVA. That was one reason that I was really excited about that game was because I got to see my dude, Kim Kersnick, first class dude. Everybody knows the Virginia mascot. The guy's a total badass. Yeah, yeah. In real life, like he doesn't just ride the horse out. And one time he took a spill on the horse,
Starting point is 00:57:38 got right back up, didn't impale himself with his saber. So shout out to Kim. But yeah, Jackson DeVille had a tough day. Matt Ryan had a tough day. You know, he doesn't deserve this shit. Pits is going to be a guy that you got to watch. Like, next year is going to be year two of this guy's contract. The targets have been up and down this year and you're going to be starting over with a new quarterback on a team where, you know, to justify where you've picked him, you have to have a plan for how you're going to use him in the future. And so I don't know. I know that the Ridley thing hurts his ability to get open. You could take him away. But people are going to want numbers, man. You know, like I've been.
Starting point is 00:58:11 there, people are going to want numbers. And he's a special talent, more special than than a lot of the other guys in the top five. They've got to find a way to get him in the ball. And Bears fans, Cordero Patterson, it's got to be tough to watch him. Arthur Smith found a way to turn him into basically a pro bowler at a position, not special teams.
Starting point is 00:58:31 I mean, 100 yards, two touchdowns. Pretty ridiculous, the way they've used this guy. And you just had him in Chicago. You just had him. Jets Texans is the only thing that happened there was the back pick. I don't even really want to talk about that game. Butt fumble back pick. Butt fumble back pick.
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Starting point is 00:59:23 problem in Arizona call 1-800 next step in Colorado, Indiana, New Jersey, and Virginia call 1-800 gambler and in Michigan 1-800-7-1-17. Tennessee y'all 2, 1-8009-9. So the Vikings real quick, couple things going on here with the Vikings. Number one, I have the underwin total. I'm sweating that thing out. But luckily, I get to see Kirk Cousins on fourth down, the biggest play of the game, putting his hand under the guard's ass.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Why wouldn't the guard be like, so if you didn't see the game, like many people, because you were probably watching the Packers and Rams game, and actually the quality of playing this game was pretty good. Kirk Cousins on the biggest play of game, it's fourth and three, right, Reed? They're down there in the Red Zone, down eight, and he runs up and puts his back hand
Starting point is 01:00:11 under the scrotum of the guard. Right. That's, like the guard should speak up, sir. Wrong one. Wrong. He's probably scared to get off sides or something, man. Kirk. Kirk!
Starting point is 01:00:25 These are my balls. You know what I mean? Like, say something, man. Say something. So then they got to burn a time out, and then he overthrows somebody in the end. Jefferson. Jefferson.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Yeah. So that sort of stuff is really encouraging from the Vikings. So I appreciate that. But another life alert kind of day for them. That is a life alert kind of day. That is a life alert. Like heart attack. Dot Giff, if I'm a Vikings fan and I see Kirk Cousins,
Starting point is 01:00:53 actually I have anxiety in my chest right now, imagining being a Vikings fan. Like my chest just got a little tight. What about the coach in the booth like that can see the angle better and just like, what is he doing? Like what are you doing? Because you might not be able to see that angle from the sideline. You'd be like, is he under the right guy?
Starting point is 01:01:11 It gives me an idea for a weird trick play. You could do a direct snap to the running back with the QB under the guard. Yeah, they do do that. Everybody will be like, fuck, look at Kirk Cousins. He's under the guard. Snap the ball to formerly,
Starting point is 01:01:24 it would have been Dalvin Cook, but he's hurt now. So anyways, you down, Vikings have given up 66 points the final two minutes of first halves. That's the most through 11 games since 2000. So you want to win late in the year. Lucky for me,
Starting point is 01:01:37 they're probably not going to do a lot of that, giving up, you know, uh, you know, middle eight points and all that stuff. They're down there. Two best pass rushers. Niners playoff chances, 72% after that win. Currently a six seat in the NFC.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Here's a list of people that would want to see the Niners in January. That's a list. You know I've been tough on the Niners over the past few years. I'm going to call it how I see it right now. And by the way, Nick Bosa, he's more productive now than he was the year that everybody lost their shit. And it just proves y'all don't actually watch games unless teams are really good. and Nick Bosa is balling out right now
Starting point is 01:02:14 they're just a well-coached team man they find a way to give Debo Samuel five touchdowns on the ground this year he's a wide receiver okay like it's it's insane today six carries six yards two touchdowns and the Niners got the Hawks Bengals Falcons next couple weeks at the Hawks
Starting point is 01:02:33 at the Bengals some good tests for them but yeah Mike Zimmer T-shirt Mike Zimmer weird look he does look different with a t-shirt was that like a v-neck no I think he just stretched the neck out it's like one of those you necks now Mike Zimmer he's not supposed to have a t-shirt on bacon neck Mike Zimmer's gonna look so weird retired bro Mike Zimmer's gonna walk up I'm gonna run into Mike Zimmer at a at a hotel bar and I'm gonna want to talk to him because I never really hung out
Starting point is 01:03:02 with him or met him and he seems cool he looks like he's gonna have like a Hawaiian shirt on him and be like holy shit dude you're way different in person I feel like he's like he's like I'm the boat fishing type of guy. I think he's up in a deer stand a lot, buddy. And the Vikings' playoff changes are 51% right, Matt Nackie? Yeah, that's right. Although you probably should have gone for CNN's John Kingston if you're really trying to nail that joke.
Starting point is 01:03:22 John Kingston. Yeah, that's true. You're Mac. Golly, it was right there, dude. That was the brilliance of calling you Matt Nackie, is that there's actually a guy with your last name that does that for a living on a network that's always on. Holy shit, I'm dumb.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Yeah, that guy, John Kingston, he could bench press somebody. That motherfucker works out. John Kingston? It's John King. I just made it into my own name. All good, though. He's a John Kings. But yeah, the Vikings are five and six, but they still have a 51% chance to make playoffs.
Starting point is 01:03:59 I'm triple stupid, by the way. But John Kingston, John King, that motherfucker is huge, dude. I don't mean to call him a motherfucker. I don't want to get bench pressed if I ever meet him. but that guy works out, dude. Are you saying the comparison doesn't work? Like, I would get my ass kicked by John King? No, I'm not saying that necessarily.
Starting point is 01:04:17 But if you ever made John King Matt, I think he might win. I think John King would kick my ass. And speaking of ass kicking, the Vikings play Detroit and then Pittsburgh. That's a big reason why their playoff chances are so much better than some of the other teams. I like Pittsburgh muddying it up. Who do they have the next, the last six games? I need them to go 500. The number was eight now.
Starting point is 01:04:40 This is going to be a fun betting. Oh, like down the... Fun for you. Yeah, down the stretch of the season. Next six games for the Vikings. We got at Lions, home versus Steelers,
Starting point is 01:04:51 at Bears, home versus Rams, at Packers, and home versus Bears. So two games against the Bears and a game against the Lions. Not looking bad for you. Well,
Starting point is 01:05:01 no, I need them to win less. That's three weeks. I think they can win, John Kingston. John King's also smarter than me in addition to being better looking
Starting point is 01:05:09 and stronger. Hey, Reed, could you beat John King up, you think? If you came down... Absolutely not. Yeah, John King's guy, he might have hands too. He might be like Aaron Donald. Have some respect for yourself, Reed. Don't answer so quickly. I'm just saying me and Matt are pretty similarly sized dudes. That's a football guy thing, though, in a locker room. If you ask football guys, they, like, contractually have to think they can beat any guy up. Like, you go right down the line to like Mike Tyson. You guys need to watch Bucky. You'll be like, what about Mike Tyson? And be like, well I don't know is it in a boxing ring no he would kick your ass dude not if you know
Starting point is 01:05:42 something you hit him in the throat real quick you saw it takes good luck hitting Mike Tyson in the throat who's a fine gentleman dude okay my if I'm with Mike Tyson he's like here I got a toad sure I'm gonna be like fucking
Starting point is 01:06:00 I'm gonna be like I'm gonna be like I'm gonna be no I don't mean it Mike if you ever hear this but he pulled up to a podcast and did that yeah well I'm don't pull up to fuck see exactly well he's gonna have to come to charlottesville virginia and like literally like make our podcast famous and i might but here's the deal he's never going to do that i would do that shit with him in a heartbeat my co-host tonight mike would do the toad thing with you heartbeat he would have me like uh what's his name in training day he'd be like i don't know i didn't know you like to get
Starting point is 01:06:31 wet chris somebody said it'd be fun to it'd be fun to go on mike tyson show and smoke with him except I said that I would be so fucking nervous to be so stoned. I wouldn't want to piss Mike Tyson off. Consider the anxiety. You didn't think about that. No, his weed is really strong too. It's really, really strong. And he'd probably smack the fuck out of you.
Starting point is 01:06:51 After three minutes, you'd piss him off. And you'd be like... No, I watch a lot of his podcast. I think you would have the best time in the world. Oh, I... Even if you got paranoid... By the way. He's a real stoner.
Starting point is 01:07:06 So, like, it's something where he'll be able... able to sympathize with you and make it, you'll be all right. I think people are always like, yeah, like you'd be nervous to smoke with X, Y, Z. You're most nervous to smoke with guys that can maybe take your head off if you actually offend them. 1,000% charges Broncos, read, I've told you I have a fly on the wall here. Sorry, I meant viewing party. This is the prestigious Greenlight Pot award, which is, of course, our award that we give out
Starting point is 01:07:32 to people that I'd love to see how they were watching the game. Isn't that what it means? That's right. So if I was to say there's one person I was really interested in kind of hovering over as they watched this football game, who do you think it would be? Well,
Starting point is 01:07:45 earlier I thought John Elway because we were watching all the Broncos' recent defensive draft picks played really well, and I would have thought it would be funny to watch him see the defensive side of the ball play so well, but the quarterback side still be unfounded. The answer is Russell Wilson. We want Russell Wilson?
Starting point is 01:08:08 I don't know if you want Russell Wilson. I think what you could probably do with that young core is unlimited with Russell Wilson. Think about Russell Wilson and young guys like Jerry Judy and Patrick Sartan, your guy. Had two fucking picks today. And the second one was good karma. Yeah, I got a Sunday hop on it.
Starting point is 01:08:27 But the first one jumping around, right, and taking the second one to the house is good karma. He's been playing really well. All their young guys, you were mentioning a couple other guys, because you're big Mr. Broncos. But they've... I like that. We just signed Cortland Sutton and Tim Patrick
Starting point is 01:08:41 to long-term deals. Bro, you have... Somehow, the Broncos have the same record as the Chargers. Teddy Bridgewater is their quarterback. The Chargers have Justin Herbert as a quarterback. Like, I don't understand it.
Starting point is 01:08:55 So y'all are doing some things right. Okay? And one of the things you've been doing right lately unless I'm missing something people are talking about on message boards, it seems like some of your young players are pretty exciting. And if I'm Russell Wilson, who did not play today,
Starting point is 01:09:08 I'm just wondering what he's thinking is he's kind of like watching these games. But Sierra, you're just watching the games? I don't think of. Sierra's like, why do we have the Broncos game on? Oh, just check it out. Just check it out. What do you think of Denver, Sierra? Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:09:22 Like, you think he ever floats that? Like, just checks her temperature on living in Denver, which Denver's a great place to live. And for him to be running around, like, game plan-wise, running around in Denver, having defenses. extra tired. Oh, man. He's in a sack.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Russell Wilson at altitude. And like hurry up offense, him and Judy, just running those quick out screens up the field. You could just feel. I'm in love with it. You could just feel the DeLy lineman panting for air now. The only problem is Howie Roseman's going to give up, he's going to give like his children up to get, to get Russell Wilson in the off season. But if he doesn't, if he escapes Howie Roseman, and I don't mean that like negative
Starting point is 01:10:04 to say like, because God damn, you got to. are also fucking literal with everything. Jesus. I don't know. Sometimes I think you have the podcast transcribed with some of the things like you didn't hear my tone. Russell's going to Philly to get his street cred up. No, Russ would go, I mean you look at New York, you look at Philly, you could also look at Denver. I could see Russ in all the gear that Lloyd Christmas like went in and just ransacked that that high end luxury ski shop. It was not crunchy. That was the booed. I could see Russ in some big-time booge, like sick Oakley's and the whole thing, like the goggles. He's definitely not a breck guy.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Yeah, no, he would be, he would be Aspen. Vale, for sure. Yeah, Aspen, yeah. But anyways, bad beat is the lead here. Really bad beat. I slammed a door. I slammed a door over this game. The door bowed.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Did the door bow? when you slammed it there was a little curve to it now read you haven't seen I've lost a lot of money in front of you you have I want to say most of the times you lost money
Starting point is 01:11:16 it's just been yelling very aggressively that was the one time I think there's been a an aggression towards an inanimate object I've never harmed a person over a bet but like this one was tough
Starting point is 01:11:31 okay when you're in chase mode you do stupid shit I had Denver like Altline So I had a total that was lower But it's it's riskier so it's like 41 and a half Looks fine right I thought this game would go a little bit more high scoring obviously
Starting point is 01:11:49 Okay I was too scared to bet the under too scared to bet the over Let's do the alt line I'm in chase mode Let's take the safe bet Well not so much because Brandon Staley had a galaxy brain moment Brandon, I love Brandon Staley, love the Chargers. But Brandon, it's 2813. I'm about to hit that total.
Starting point is 01:12:12 We talk really positively about the Chargers here. I don't know if I can do that for a couple weeks. There was no need to go for two in that situation and have the bet land squarely on 41. There was just no need. I know that there's a numbers thing. I know that there's like an analytics thing. I know like there's a lot of really intellectual football fans now
Starting point is 01:12:31 and everything, but there's also people who are depending on you. So if you're like a real better, you can't be a fan of, you can't really be a fan of any team, can you? That's why Dolphins fans are probably great gamblers. But it was a bad beat, man. It was a bad beat. And I told Reed five minutes before it happened. What did I say, Reed? You said if they get a touchdown and then don't score the two point conversion, I'm going to crush a door. I didn't say crush a door I mean but I knew it was going to happen
Starting point is 01:13:04 I knew they were going to read was like they're going to score this touchdown and give you a late cover I'm like and watch and watch Hey that was really Tony soprano ask I'm watching the sopranos right now Yeah And one of the scenes I just finished watching he's angry and he tries to slam a door and it wouldn't close He just goes back and he's trying to slam it And that's that's kind of what happened in that That's my favorite my favorite door related scene that was a good pull my
Starting point is 01:13:30 favorite door-related scene is from the campaign. If you've ever seen the campaign is one of the most underrated movies. Comedy is the past 10-15 years, and there's a push-it-reel-good scene there where Zach Galaphanakis can't open the door and his dad is trying to coach him through it.
Starting point is 01:13:46 It's an awesome scene. But anyways, we're about to get to the two big, big-time games this week, three big-time games this week involving the Colts and Bucks, the Pats and the Titans, the Rams shit show that occurred late in the afternoon. One last thing about this game here and the Chargers.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Chargers bangles next week, that's going to be a big time game. I don't know if the lines out. I'm sure I get an early look at it, but I would put it at Sinci by three at home, maybe by four and a half even the way the Chargers have played lately. So if it's anything less than that, I might bet the Bengals, but the problem is I have the Chargers win total, and that is the inverse experience
Starting point is 01:14:30 of the Vikings bet, which is basically the same thing. It's just a sweat fest. And Bengals' early odds are minus two and a half. Minus two and a half. So I'm not going to do that because I don't want to be so fucking conflicted because if the Chargers lose,
Starting point is 01:14:47 Matt, Nacky, their chances of making the playoffs go 33%. And the Bengals, if they lose down to 40. I just want to say this. I was on Minus Pod. She's not so high on the Bengals. I'm a little higher on the Bengals is what I kind of took from that. I was almost afraid to say I really like the Bengals.
Starting point is 01:15:07 And if they make the playoffs, I like their chances to win a game. I don't know who they play, how that matchup will be. They've got to stay healthy. But to me, they're a playoff football team. Are they a contender team?
Starting point is 01:15:17 I don't know, we'll see. But they're pretty awesome. Fun to watch. Another team I wouldn't want to seem to playoffs. Bengals? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Yeah. No, they've got the makings of a, pretty good football team. They had a bad month. And I think they picked a good time to have a bad month and, you know, we'll see next week. Big showdown. Speaking of big showdowns, Indy and the Bucks, by the way, the unies on the Colts. Great job. I like those shoulder stripes. I like that throwback look. It adds a little spice to those things. I think sometimes they can get kind of boring even though they're so classic and I love their unies. By the way, Bengals also all orange socks.
Starting point is 01:15:58 I like that. I hate two-tone socks. No swag in two-tone socks, bro. The length she would go around to not wear those basic-ass two-tone socks. We wore two-tone socks all throughout college. So bad. Our girl's special. Bro, I was like, coach, I'm trying to be athletic out here.
Starting point is 01:16:17 Golly, we look just like the pads. Six and six are the Colts. They got Houston next week and then a buy. So tough beat today, right? Yeah, for sure. Because Fournett, like... Oh, yeah. End of the game. Because the Colts were three-point dogs.
Starting point is 01:16:34 They were catching three points. End of the game. Fournett is basically he could just take a knee at the 10-yard line. They could kick a field goal and avoid having to deal with that sweaty situation. They put themselves in with the Colts at the end of the game. But he didn't go down. And odds were that if Fournettes has a chance to score, I think four net's going to score.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Yeah, he wasn't even thinking about. He taught. There was no even thought of, hey, I'm even thinking about going down. Yep. And then he was trying to get, he had to get four touchdowns. You know, like, you don't get that chance a lot for a running back. And at the end of the day, hey. Well, guess what Tom Brady was going to say if Carson connected to put that game in overtime.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Tom was going to say, what the fucking do, Leonard? You know, and he played great, too. I mean, he really did. He got them going. And by the way, the Vita Vey-Tooth thing, I just found out that he has an extra layer of teeth because Bruce Ariens says that he has 30 other teeth. And I don't care.
Starting point is 01:17:35 You've got 30 other ones. He'll play without a tooth. I mean, that ain't nothing. And it was a big debate how many teeth we have in the other room. How many teeth do we have, Nate, you think? Because I didn't know. I was like, it sounds, it's got to be an even number, right? Which puts things in a weird light with Vita Vey and his teeth
Starting point is 01:17:52 situation because that would put him at 31 before he got hit in the helmet. Isn't it supposed to be 36? That's a lot of teeth, man. It's 32, then you take four out when you get your wisdom teeth. I haven't got my wisdom teeth removed. 32 for Chris. I have 32 teeth, bro. Good for you.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Maybe Vita Vevae had fucking 32 teeth, man. Well, that doesn't make any sense. Do the math. So he's got another one taking out another time. Well, good thing Bruce is a football coach and not a dentist, is all I'm saying. So how much money do you do the thing? he's going to get from the tooth fairy uh tooth fairy how much money would he get i wonder if he found his tooth household what do you like a dollar bro we talked about this at the waffle house nates a push over
Starting point is 01:18:36 with the tooth fairy stuff i'm a push over yeah i'm giving the kid a dollar bro not a bro that is not a dollar for that bro damn yo tough vita viz our guy though i love vita vay and he's definitely tough he didn't even make a big deal of it like some of these hockey guys boy they milk it oh let me smile i lost the tooth great i saw the other 4 000 guys who lost the tooth can we just grimace and move on oh but the way he lost it this it was you saw it's slow motion for anyone who's played football before the feeling of your face your your chin strap raking against your face and nose coming off like um like while it's still strapped on is the bad feeling but then for it to catch your tooth you rip it out oh my god dude we we we we we we we we we we
Starting point is 01:19:24 What a life we lived where you could just strangers are watching your fucking tooth in slow motion and HD just pirouette onto the turf. Like that was what we did for a living. I just want to say this. Colts are scary because they were bad early and they're still winning. They're still winning early in that game. I mean, no first down still 12 minutes left to go in the second. Pitman, they were off on that connection, over three on targets early. Carson threw behind him on a third down.
Starting point is 01:19:52 Pascal fumbled. Okay, Pascal fumbled. That was a costly one. He did that last year in the playoffs. Same type of thing against the bills. Actually ended that game. And here's the part to me that's a little bit confusing. Jonathan Taylor has been, and I love Jonathan Taylor, he's a great back.
Starting point is 01:20:10 He's probably one of the top three backs in the league, right, when all of them are healthy. And they're all big now. All the top three backs to me are big and healthy. You know, like you take Camara is like almost in a different. weight class we're talking about. CMC, different weight class, but the three best, like, power running backs are big men. This guy you'd think would be built to carry the ball
Starting point is 01:20:35 20 times a game. And Frank, I think he is. Frank is saving him for something. And I know today he had some box count stuff in the third quarter, but I'm going to read you his touches. Four rushes for two yards first quarter, four for 23 in the second quarter. zero touches in third quarter. By the way, Colts had two of their five turnovers in the third quarter. I know there's some RPO stuff, so I get it.
Starting point is 01:21:01 In the fourth quarter, eight for 58. And for a team that doesn't close teams out, they sure don't stick with it in the run game. Like I would want to hear something more than just, well, you know, like the count wasn't right. If he's an MVP caliber running back, if he's the best running back in the league and people have made that case, you don't have to pick and choose what box you run him into.
Starting point is 01:21:25 Like truly transcendent backs and I think he's won. I would like to think he's won. You can run him into whatever boxes you want. I don't think Derek Henry was, I don't think they were counting the box in Tennessee. And you know, Greg Olson put it this way in the fourth quarter. They recapture their identity. They should never have to recapture it.
Starting point is 01:21:43 You can go away from, but your bread and butter is not Carson throwing the ball 44 times, although he played pretty well. they lost the Ravens, Titans, and now the Bucks this way, and its moral victory time is over for the Colts. That could have been a huge, huge statement. We're here. We just beat up on the Bucks. Victory.
Starting point is 01:22:04 But they squandered it. And like I said, Carson had a good day, threw the ball 44 times. They were really struggling at that first down as soon as they did the damn broke. I mean, that shot to Doolin, who's a special team's tackle guy, Right after Pascal let you down, he's the guy who steps up. Beautiful ball. But the moment for Carson to me was the two-minute drill before the half.
Starting point is 01:22:27 I thought he really shined there. I thought third and 15 picking up that, getting to the sticks, beating Sue to the sticks. They really needed that. Then he hit Doyle on third and ten. And really fourth and one. This tells you everything you need to know. If this team gets in the playoffs, they're going to be fucking scary. Their list is shorter than the Niners list of teams that would want to see them.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Okay. I bet you Tom Brady. if he was in the AFC would be like, I'd rather not play that team again. You know, Buckner, all those guys on defense. Our guy, Quitty pay. Quitty pay, who had another sack. Another sack. Three, three games.
Starting point is 01:23:00 Last three games, he has a set. And they come in bunches. So good for Quitty Pay. But their defense as a whole, the D-Line, they're all flying around. They played really well. They played well. They're first some turnovers. They're doing everything they're supposed to. But the big thing for me is, the defense is great, but did we know if Frank Reich
Starting point is 01:23:17 would be able to trust Carson by the end of the season? I think he does trust him now. You know, you had him throw the ball 40-something times, fourth and one. They called a timeout, put Jonathan Taylor back in the game, and then sprinted out to the right, I think, and hit Ty Hilton on like a route in the flat by the pylon. So to trust him over the best back in the league, that means the trust is back there, at least to a degree. And even if they don't slide in or they don't finish right, at least you know you might
Starting point is 01:23:44 have something here with Carson. So, you know, Colts D, I don't want to put too much on them. give up 38 points, but there were five turnovers in this game. They came out like big game energy and were getting after it. I thought Yassine had, he got hosed on a couple of calls, tough day for him, Brate, P.I. in the end zone, couple PIs, that sort of thing. But they were getting after Tom Brady a little bit. That late stop after the Heinz fumble, which could have been a real backbreaker where
Starting point is 01:24:12 they forced him to kick a field goal, this is a defense that can win you games. Okoriki played great In spots I mean there was one sequence where he He blew up Jensen on a pole in the run game TFL and then goes out in coverage The next play and he gets a PBU. Their second level with Darius Leonard of course
Starting point is 01:24:32 Is fucking good They had D-Lyman making plays Sniffing out screens Where they were vacating the edge Dropping in coverage Great defenses can make the wrong call right And that's what they do a lot in indie, but Tom,
Starting point is 01:24:47 Gronk, the supporting cast. It was too much for him, man. Gronk was running over Colts D.Bs and flattening them all game long. It was one of the most fun things I've ever watched. I was just like, after everything that was going on this weekend, Gronk, like, flattening Colts D.Bs,
Starting point is 01:25:05 put a smile on my face. I'm not going to lie. The Grunk commercial, the AARP commercial, is one of the cringiest things to me, because I just think it's a bad commercial, his whole script and everything. But now, after this game and watching him play,
Starting point is 01:25:24 I agree with the script, and I agree, Gronk, you are very special. He is special. An ARP should go ahead and let him get that insurance. He is special. He was playing like a soldier, running through those guys. Stolen valor, Nate.
Starting point is 01:25:41 It's actually USAA. So I don't know what's worse. Grunk Stolen Valoring Like out in the open or us fucking up You know which so we apologize to the troops U SAA Refer to the Air Force take
Starting point is 01:25:56 I just know like here's the deal The commercials are bad The commercials are bad and and And if it was anybody but Grong people would be Vets would probably be like what the fuck man On its head it's kind of an interesting strategy Marketing wise that only Grunk can like all shucks Like he thinks he's a real soldier
Starting point is 01:26:14 Like no but um It was like I was hearing Nickelodeon noises You know like the like you know how I hear clown noises Sometimes when I see like stupid shit happen on football When he flattened like four DB which by the way One of the biggest third down conversions in the game He caught the ball at the three you know Or caught the ball five yards short of the sticks
Starting point is 01:26:34 And still got the first down broke like four tackles There was at one point He trucked Odom and I heard a woman scream in the stands, bro. He flattened Odom. Like, like, Odom's face mask almost touched his knees. Like, he got crunched down, like trash compacted. And then there was a woman that was like, ah! Like, just dudes getting flattened. It was violent. He's a giant dude. And also, he's one game short of Tony Gonzalez's record. You should look into getting a soundboard. And then you can make your own. I should get a soundboard. Can we get a soundboard in this facility? I think I asked for a fucking
Starting point is 01:27:11 soundboard years ago. And then you can you can make your own little effects. Doings. Plays like that. There's different doyings for field goals. There's like clown noises. I heard clown noises today in one or two games. So but Gonzales, 100 yard game record 30 after day for gronk. He gets one more. He ties Gonzalez for 31 all-time 100-yard games. He's the goat. To me he's the goat. Gronks the goat. I've said this before. I didn't need any of these records because he blocks his ass off too. That's a separating factor, dude. for you to be that.
Starting point is 01:27:42 And I know him and Brady, these two guys, they're going to go out together, bro. They're going to bury them next to each other. You know what I mean? Like, these guys are as inextricably linked as almost any quarterback receiver or tight end combo. Isn't that amazing? He's like literally the guy's security blanket.
Starting point is 01:28:02 All these years, I mean, Gronk came in late and didn't play with Tom the whole career, but it's amazing that just in that second chapter, You talk about Tom had two Hall of Fame careers. The second one, he found his best friend. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, he found his best friend the second one.
Starting point is 01:28:19 And I don't know when these guys stopped playing football together. But size age as well, dude. Power, physicality. Can't teach size. He doesn't, and he doesn't need to be running four or five, dude. He just runs through guys. Runs through guys. And just like you were saying earlier, what are the ESPN, what they call him?
Starting point is 01:28:38 Oh, vintage game. Yeah, yeah. ESPN said it was a vintage game and Grunk took offense to that. Because it's true. He looks just like fucking Grunk, just a little bit stiffer sometimes. But that happens in your 30s. And he played about dog years, 30 years, played in New England. I mean, it's a physical place to play.
Starting point is 01:28:54 And he's been running into people for a long time. The pick that Brady threw was on Scotty Miller. I know that because of the crew. I thought they did a great job. Burkhart Olson. I'll get to that in a second. But Tom's supporting cast was really why they won this game. Like look at that two minute drill at the end
Starting point is 01:29:10 They got it going with screen game They got it going with the draw to Fournette You know Gronk blocking You know pay On that last drive Like The supporting cast is why he's there
Starting point is 01:29:22 Even with all the injuries they had And they were piling up They have enough playmaking Real guys on that team That they're able to go in there A tough environment And beat a really good football team And Greg Olson is the best in the business
Starting point is 01:29:35 Dude at doing this thing Greg Olson I had to go guy today that was like he's not that he doesn't yell enough for me this is an adult broadcast man Greg Olson is an adult color commentator dude and by that I mean he's not telling dick jokes he's teaching you the game so if you don't want to learn the game don't watch Greg Olson mute the TV your business if you want to know less about the game that you're evidently obsessed with this guy's so good dude you know the windfield uh angle on the dueling touchdown like talking about high low concepts
Starting point is 01:30:07 in the passing game in the red zone with Doyle, actually knows D-Line play. I wanted to hug him. I love Greg. I used to stay with Greg on spring break. His brother, Chris Olson, C-Dirt. Shout out to C-Dirt. We used to go down to South Beach for spring break,
Starting point is 01:30:21 and I used to sleep on Greg's couch. And I just am really proud of the football player, saying I grew up to know a great football player, probably a Hall of Fame or he's a great guy, but he's going to make my Sundays a lot more enjoyable perpetually. I get to watch this guy for 40 years. And it's,
Starting point is 01:30:36 It's such a different experience to watch a game and as an ex-player and to hear another ex-player really explain and put the game somewhat in lame in terms for everyone to kind of to enjoy. And like you said, like for when I'm sitting there with my girlfriend and she's asking me questions that I maybe can't explain, when you do have a good commentator that's explaining the game well, it makes everything. a lot more. Scary as shit in the world.
Starting point is 01:31:08 Scariest shit in the world is that people are listening to, and not all the time, there's a lot of great play-by-playing color commentary people, but like, it's disturbing how bad of an idea people can have about like what's really going on in pro football. So like, when I
Starting point is 01:31:24 see a guy, like, think about it, fans are just held hostage by whoever's doing the game and you could be a D-Liman that like raises hell. And all it takes is one, I haven't called his name, or, you know, you could fucking be in your gap and the ball go for 86 yards, you could have
Starting point is 01:31:40 death threats when you get to the locker. Because people are fucking, they're listening to the guy on TV. And I just love Greg Olson. Dude, great job. Anyone with the business can tell you that when it comes to hiring these days, you don't have time to play
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Starting point is 01:33:54 that's how you fucking do it in one take it maybe maybe maybe my energy made you slip a slip up you felt the pressure I collapsed which reminds me the Falcons which reminds me of a I forgot to mention earlier. They have not had a 100-yard rusher who had two touchdowns since 2016, since I was a New England Patriot. Boy, how things have changed there. That was Friedman, right?
Starting point is 01:34:17 Yeah, it was Freeman, yeah. A long time ago. Long time. Sorry, Falcons. You caught a stray in here. You caught a stray in here, like when Devante Adams brought up Nathan Peterman
Starting point is 01:34:27 as an example for like the worst. Sorry, I don't even know how the Falcons got involved in this indeed ad read. Mina said the highest floor and I said, Mina and I said that somebody took away from the pod that I went on with Mina. Shout to Mina Kahn. We agreed
Starting point is 01:34:45 that the highest floor is the Pats. As far as like the team that maybe they're not so flashy, they might not be as hot as they are right now, but they're not going to just throw up stinkers because they're really well coach. Their team is well
Starting point is 01:35:01 kind of the talent is nicely distributed. They have strengths. they have not a ton of huge weaknesses. This was their floor today, dude. The Pat's floor was kind of today. And it's fucking scary because they played awful. And they won 36 to 13.
Starting point is 01:35:19 Now granted, it was Ryan Tannahill and some running backs that literally I don't give a second thought to when I'm looking for a running back in the waiver wire in fantasy. Like, they're at the bottom of the projected points. and like I'm so thirsty for a running back. I didn't know any of these guys.
Starting point is 01:35:38 And they showed up in weird numbers on their jerseys and kicked the shit out of the pads in the run game. My fly on the wall is Bill and the meetings at halftime, post game, tomorrow morning. I would pay so much money to be in that meeting room tomorrow morning and just know, you know. He takes pride in that run game. Oh, he takes pride in the run game.
Starting point is 01:36:02 A lot of things he takes pride in did not go well today. And I will say this, like, you get those waiver wire running backs at Gashim, they were averaging, giving up 88 yards over the last five games on the ground. They gave up 142 at the half today, 270, and they still won. But if you're ball aware,
Starting point is 01:36:19 which is something they hang their hat on, we talked about in the Cleveland game, we talked about how active they all are. I referenced Barmore, affecting Mayfield on a pick. I referenced Kyle Van Oye, breaking up a screen in the red zone, like things that you don't pay attention to,
Starting point is 01:36:34 but eventually come to fruition, even if you're not getting the turnovers. They got them today, okay? If you're ball aware, you'll always be in it. J.C. Jackson made big plays, 19 to 13 and third quarter. The punchout. That was the biggest play of the game. One of those fucking waiver-wire type guys, Reed, tell me their names. I had the game on no sound because I was listening to Greg Olson.
Starting point is 01:36:57 What are the running backs on the Tennessee Titans? What are their names? It's Hilliard. Hilliard? And the wide receiver is Westbrook. Westbrook Aquina. Westbrook Aquina. And he was the one who caught the touchdown pass
Starting point is 01:37:09 and they kept going to him on third down. Okay, there were just a lot of guys I didn't know and no surprise from a team that's had to deal with like 100 players on their active roster all year long. I think it's in the 90s now almost. They've had, they have 32 players on IR this season. They're about to set the record
Starting point is 01:37:26 for most players used. They could open a hospital, dude, just for the guys on the Titans, man. That punchout was huge. That was the game right. I mean like not the game but that thing was sweaty and it could have been sweaty or a lot longer. It was Devin McCordy day dude. Okay, Devin McCordy is like the fifth longest tenured Patriot of all time or third now. So congratulations to my brother man. I love Devin McCordy so
Starting point is 01:37:48 much. I love Devin McCordy and he made one of the biggest plays of the game. J.C. Jackson got the pick in the end zone. Devin McCordy put his hand up and got a piece of it and it was a Sunday hop right there to J.C. Jackson. So all aware. Tips and overthrows. It affected a lot of games today. And so, you know, it doesn't always show up in the stat sheet. The play before that on second down or whatever it was, Kyle Van Nuoy broke up a ball in the end zone. Okay? He did that and allowed them to turn that into a
Starting point is 01:38:19 not a four-point swing. They took the ball away. And I got to shout out Mike Rable. He probably doesn't want to hear this after he's not going to hear it at all. Not a big podcast guy, I wouldn't assume. I hear you, Mike. He didn't want to hear it, but good shit, dude. Like, just good shit.
Starting point is 01:38:38 He's a great football coach, man. I mean, this team, like, everything they've been through for him to get them to believe. Like, there's something in his gut, dude, that just guys, like, you walk in a room with a leader, and you're just like, fuck it. I'll go to the end of the earth with that motherfucker. And it's obviously what he's got going on there because they had no business money in this thing up. And I should shout out Todd Downings as well, the offensive coordinator. All he's done, I know he scored 13 points.
Starting point is 01:39:03 but they had it, they put those players in position. He didn't fumble those footballs. You know, he didn't miss throws. Todd Downings did a good job. And I was, Todd Downings was with, I was with Todd Downings in St. Louis for a second. He's had a great career. But those coaches deserve credit.
Starting point is 01:39:21 They had to win sloppy. Their only touchdown, that drive was crazy. It was like third and three short of the sticks. Then you got a QB sneak for one. Then at the goal line, your receiver slips into the end zone, like everything. was a struggle. You miss an extra point. Great teams went ugly.
Starting point is 01:39:37 Yeah, well, they're not at full strength right now. I mean, you know, don't give me the Joe fan thing, Nate, have a heart. The next drive, you know, New England's lucky because Tano could have had him up 13-10. I talked about the missed throws. He missed Rogers. Then they missed the field goal. So the biggest mistake they didn't make was take advantage of New England's mediocrity today. I mean, Jeffrey Simmons, I want to say this, plays his fucking ass off, dude. I would love to play with Jeffrey Simmons, dude.
Starting point is 01:40:09 He was running down screens 15 yards down the field and trying to level. Like, you know, like 15 yards, he's catching backs, trying to eat. Not a big game in the stat sheet. Like didn't, you know, have another three-sac game but played his ass off. New England missed opportunities. Okay. Bill had to absolutely just waylay these guys at half time. Middle eight was terrible for them.
Starting point is 01:40:37 Pat's six opening TD drive since week five. So you were like they're rolling. And by the way, I had like a moped on the pads. You know, I was in chase mode, dangerous, money line. Just money line, Chris. So off the, out of the gate, I felt pretty good about it, but they really struggle in the red zone. The biggest miss of the game for Mack Jones
Starting point is 01:41:00 was probably a third and seven overthrow of Hunter Henry. It's 13-6 at this point. They let a game like this kind of stay in phase for a while against a better team. They're going to lose that game. So hope they learn their lesson. They had to settle for three. You know, I just want to say this,
Starting point is 01:41:17 because I want to shout out Kendrick Bourne. Like, I really want to shout out Bill because I have no idea what he knew. This guy has been really good for them. evidently Bill tried to go get him a couple times. Bill had been kind of... Bill has these guys that are like... Secretly he's obsessed with,
Starting point is 01:41:35 and Kendrick Bourne was probably... That guy on tape for years. It was like, fucking Kendrick-Born. If I just had him, I'd show everybody. How about Kyle Shanahan couldn't make Kendrick Bourne great? But Bill Belichick is making Kendrick born great. Dude, what? He's the greatest coach of all time,
Starting point is 01:41:50 but I didn't think he was an offensive mind, but he understands players, and he understands, like, fits and it also goes to show that when a guy's somewhere with a great offensive mind or a great coach or great defensive mind don't assume because he's not successful there that he's not a good player well we said it we said it a few weeks ago the pats and bellichick this is this is his time like he is getting geared up and this is a testament to it they won this game nasty like it was a nasty game. Like even
Starting point is 01:42:24 the fact that they won by the margin that they did when you're watching the game and you see all the mistakes that they're making and they don't look like a typical Belichick coach team, but they still win with that margin. It just goes to show
Starting point is 01:42:40 we know Belichick is a great coach and he's going to get all that straightened out and when it does get straightened out they are ready to roll over people coming down to the playoff stretch. I'm glad Glad they had this game against these guys. I mean, you had fucking Mac Jones signaling first downs,
Starting point is 01:42:57 two yards short of the stick. I bet Bill wanted to just assault him. You know, like, there's Myers penalties. There's, he's out of bounds. He's inbounds. I mean, these are unpatri-like things. But, again, Bill hit on Kendrick-Borne. You know, he hit on guys in the draft.
Starting point is 01:43:17 He's hit on free agency, he didn't have guys in the draft. Think about these receivers, Mac Jones is throwing, too. Like, people kind of, I don't know with Mack Jones because we don't quite believe it. And he didn't play great today. But I want to read him to you. You already know. Nelson Aguilar, Kendrick Bourne, Jacoby Myers, and the Shevsky Kid. And Nikiel Harry, who, since he asked for a trade, the funniest shit in the world was when people were like,
Starting point is 01:43:43 oh, Bill and Nikiel Harry worked it out. They're good now after he asked for a trade. And you haven't seen him since. But yeah, no, Mac Jones is. thrown to the all world team here. So I gotta give them credit for what they're doing schematically and to Mac as well, even though it wasn't his best game. Do you think he's a rookie to year candidate?
Starting point is 01:44:01 Offensive rookie year. Yeah, I mean, Jamar Chase, maybe, but there's always the quarterback kind of slant, I feel like. So Pat's win streak, six wins, 211 to 63. They've been outscoring people 35 to 10 on average each game. Randy Moss, Pats, like look at the scores, which team is Randy Moss and Tom Brady on? Dude, I don't know, dude.
Starting point is 01:44:23 Like if you looked at them blind, I don't know. Pats bills next week, number one seed in the AFC. Like bills, they think they're out of the, you know, danger zone. And they got to go through the Pats again and turn tables. We talked about that. It's like we talked about it a few weeks ago how the Pats are turning upwards and the bills were turning the wrong way. And it seems like it's still going that way. It's going worse and worse.
Starting point is 01:44:49 It's going worse and worse. and I don't think that game I can't wait to see I'll just say that let me not put my foot in my mouth early in the week speaking of that Aaron Rogers's foot actually
Starting point is 01:45:01 Joe Buck said some funny shit he said his toe has been immunized against the pain I don't know like what he's got going on exactly it's a broken toe you have to worry about ligament damage so I don't know that you're like shooting up you don't shoot things up
Starting point is 01:45:16 if you're worried about ligament damage you're not supposed to Now you can shoot things up if you're just masking pain, like structurally. That's why I bet the Rams. I didn't know about his toe. And the left tackle thing, I got distracted by a shiny object. Whoa, they're down to the third left tackle. I saw Nick Bosa get after 73.
Starting point is 01:45:40 Surely they'll take advantage of this. McVeigh, you know, they're going to figure out a way to exploit. LaFleur did a good job of keeping those rushers for the most part off of Aaron Rogers. I mean, Vaughn, a couple shots on him, but Leonard Floyd didn't win that matchup enough to really change the game. And I don't want to be unfair to him, but 73, I think, did a pretty good job.
Starting point is 01:46:00 And that was the guy that had to do a good job, right? I mean, I don't understand my brain because I've said it all year. The Packers are going to win the Super Bowl. Not all year, but like the last two months, probably. The Packers are probably the best team in football. I'm finally buying them. I told a kid where the Packers hat on last night,
Starting point is 01:46:20 at the game, oh, this is your year. What do I do the next day? I bet the Rams. Okay? So, and the worst part of it is, Rasul Douglas had a pick six. Some of the worst bets that I lost this year were at the hands of Rasul Douglas.
Starting point is 01:46:36 How much money has he cost you? Enough, dude. And here's the worst part. Rasul Douglas used to cost me money on the pool table in Philly, dude. I love the guy. He's one of my favorite. You, Rasul, send a gift basket.
Starting point is 01:46:50 to us, man. Send us a jersey. You've been taking my money. He took my money playing pool every day after practice, like when we had time. At least the casinos cop you something when you lose, right? Exactly. This motherfucker won't send me anything. Send my kids anything, not some gear. He's friends with Aaron Rogers now. So, you know, like he's been on seven teams, dude, since that run in Philly. And I just always really liked him as a teammate. He's a great teammate, he's hard-nosed. He has some
Starting point is 01:47:21 deficiencies like any player, but he's really worked his ass off to get where he is right now, so I'm really happy for him. But after the practice, I used to be, you know, it'd almost be like a nonverbal thing, like, go play pool, let's go gamble, let's go play pool. And he usually won. He's a really good pool player, and now he's beating my ass
Starting point is 01:47:37 on Sunday. So I'm not betting against the Packers anymore, and it's not because Aaron Rogers. It's because of Russell Douglas. The biggest difference in the Packers team, why I buy them now and I didn't buy them the last two years. physicality as a team in general, which means the run game. AJ Dillon, nobody wants to tackle that big fucker.
Starting point is 01:47:54 And also he supposedly wants to start a podcast. Hey, call me, bro. I'll help you. We got Cowboy Reed here. We'll help you. Nobody wants to tackle him. So they got a run game. They get a little bit of lightning and thunder
Starting point is 01:48:08 with Aaron Jones, who's back, by the way, and looks good. That's a great sign for them. And they're physical on defense. Guys are stepping up, okay? Rashon Gary's coming along, dude. Rashon Gary had a signature game today. Rashon Gary picked a great time to play his best game, or, you know, biggest game.
Starting point is 01:48:27 Sack of Stafford, forced to fumble, yeah. You know, forced to hold, was very disruptive and just playing hard. Looking real good. Yeah, Amos knifing in on fourth and one, you know, six pressures a sack. Yeah, turnover force. This was a good day for Gary. This is his biggest moment. And young guys are coming on.
Starting point is 01:48:48 We knew Kenny Clark is a certified badass. We all knew that. But around him, I need to see more. And now they're giving you more. And that's why I believe in the Packers to win the whole thing. I really do. And this is my, like, of anything else I've said tonight, I'm like lukewarm on actually believe in.
Starting point is 01:49:06 Okay? Like, I'm generally 50-50 like anybody. But I feel good about the Packers, which generally means one thing. It's only going down. hill from here. Randall Cobb giveth, Cobb giveth, Cobb taketh the way. I thought he was going to let the Rams back in the ball game with that punt.
Starting point is 01:49:23 But he just gets up and makes plays on offense. How many, he's muffed a lot of punts in his career, hasn't he? And they just keep putting them back there. He's that good, dude. You take them off every once in a while to have Randall Cobb type production. Bro, they fought the Trojan War over Randall Cobb. That's what Aaron Rogers was fighting about the whole time, was Randall Cobb. all that shit going on in the off season
Starting point is 01:49:46 what came out of it? Randall Cobb, bro. So he's an important guy of his team. I know I'm being funny. Some of you transcription readers. I'm not that serious. But I heard a clown noise when those two guys ran into each other on that Randall Cobb.
Starting point is 01:50:02 Yeah, when the two Rams ran into each other off. But yeah, the Rams just played terrible, dude. They played bad. When Aaron Donald choked number 62, and put the Darth Vader grip on him, like, had him, like, up in the air by his Adams apple. That was a metaphor for the time of possession feeling that the Rams probably had. They felt like they were getting choked by Aaron Donald.
Starting point is 01:50:25 They were just, they couldn't get the ball back. And by the way, that guy, the poor guy that Aaron Donald probably hates his face. He, like, that guy will turn down a Pro Bowl invite if he ever goes because he knows Aaron Donald's there. Like, you know what I mean? if I'm that guy and here comes a Pro Bowl joke somewhere six-time alternate me
Starting point is 01:50:46 but like if I'm that guy I'm probably not going to go to the Pro Bowl even if I get there someday he probably needs a throat lodgers there after that that looked like it was quick and concise but it just looked like Aaron Donald's
Starting point is 01:51:01 like he has pretty good grip strength and you ever just get hitting your Adam's apple but for someone to try to Darth Vader he couldn't talk he was neutralized you probably never even had that sensation happen You never had so much. Nobody should feel that. I think this guy's,
Starting point is 01:51:15 there's going to be like rebound anxiety from this situation, the way he felt. Like, if you go to the Pro Bowl, you have to stay in the same hotel with Aaron Donald. That's like being on AAU with the biggest, baddest kid, and he wants to kick your ass. Like, you don't want to be in that situation.
Starting point is 01:51:31 God, I don't even want to think about it. But yeah, Aaron was busting his ass. It's just the, they didn't get there enough. And Van Jefferson drops, OBJ, big catch. So at least you get the heat off you for a little bit. He just kind of ran by the dude and they're going to need him. They're going to fucking need him.
Starting point is 01:51:49 Matt Stafford is hurt, man. Like, I'm just telling you, like, people don't make this shit up. I mean, they do sometimes, but Matt Stafford hasn't been one to make shit up in his career. Now, sure, the Rams are feeling like, fuck, we just made all these moves and now we're kind of imploding. And that's how the season is probably going to end. But certainly you want people to know he's not plows. playing with a full deck. He's had injuries a lot.
Starting point is 01:52:14 You know, his back, that sort of thing. And there were rumblings that he was dinged. Like the last couple weeks, I don't know if you remember this, but in the post-Sam Fran game pod, I made a point to say, I'm not positive, but I think Matt Stafford's hurt.
Starting point is 01:52:30 Today, I know that Joe Buck and Troy Akeman were probably getting flamed by the internet people because they were perceived probably caping for Matt Stafford. It's real. It's relevant. information. It doesn't take him off the hook for some of these throws. I'm not
Starting point is 01:52:46 saying he should be a fucking MVP or anything, but the guy's probably hurt and it probably plays into how you should gamble on games and how you should look at every Sunday that you see the Rams play is the foreseeable future because it's relevant, man. We had this team, some of us in the Super Bowl. Okay? The guys banged up. They don't
Starting point is 01:53:02 look great. Okay? Packers, 39 minutes. 21 first downs. Adams. Best receiver in football. We already know that. bad clock management too at the end of the game for McVey not that it really mattered other than in teaser the Rams in mercifully it's the one thing but yeah no bad clock management the Rams didn't quit they're not they got the personality of their their quarterback which is that they they got balls
Starting point is 01:53:29 man but not giving out medals for not quitting I mean they got jumped in Green Bay and it just never it never they couldn't get out of their own the shadow of their goal line the whole nine yards was tough. Insults of injury. Imagine being OBJ and wanting to do a jersey swap with the best receiver in the league, Devante Adams, who you just turned down and
Starting point is 01:53:50 didn't text back when you were trying to recruit you to come to Green Bay and his response to OBJ was go get Cooper Cups jersey since that's who he wanted to be with. How great is that? After winning
Starting point is 01:54:06 a game like that, Oh, man. Twitter's not going to like Devante Adams. That purple hair was probably on fire. It probably was like, you mother. Oh, man, dude, that's rough. And by the way, the Cooper Cup thing, dude, Cooper Cup thing, they haven't had the same connection.
Starting point is 01:54:25 Cooper Cup and Matt Stafford. I don't know if you've been following this, but since week nine, there's some statistics that backs up my claim. That's the way I'll put it. Week 9, do you know what was going on week 9? What ended around week 9? What's that? MLB playoff.
Starting point is 01:54:38 week nine line it up look at the dates you know who stopped playing Clayton Kirshaw you know who Clayton Kirshaw's best friends with Matt Stafford ever since the baseball season ended he's been taking up friendship space and the Cooper Cup replacement friend thing has gone totally sideways since baseball season ended so if I'm Sean McVe what I do is I tell fucking Clayton Kirschau you can't hang out around here anymore you can't be coming to practice you can't like block his number on your phone, like rekindle the Cooper Cup best friendship.
Starting point is 01:55:12 I'm not a fan of what's been happening since baseball season ended. So you think like some of the extra time that they were having maybe throwing extra after practice now Matt Stafford's like, yo, I gotta go hang out with Crenshaw? Well, yeah, I think so. I think like Kirschild's like,
Starting point is 01:55:25 you want to get a rap or something? You know, like, you won't come down and get it, you want a smoothie? Let's go get a smoothie, bro. Like, we haven't got any smoothies lately. You know, like that type of thing. They probably go to sheets or something like that too. No, they go to like a California.
Starting point is 01:55:37 like a rap place. It's like, you know, lettuce wraps and shit. Since week nine, Stafford has thrown no touchdowns to Cooper Cup and three touchdowns to opposing defenders. There you have it. There you have it, folks. And in the first eight weeks,
Starting point is 01:55:54 Stafford hit Cooper 10 times in the end zone. I'm just telling you, man. It's a curse of Kershaw. What if you're really hitting on something? It's the truth, bro. I haven't heard. I don't have any sources. I just, I'm doing the math.
Starting point is 01:56:10 I was in the other room when I realized to read. Did I not realize that in the other room? You did. You said who hasn't been doing anything since week nine? Fucking Clayton Kershaw. He's on Matt Stafford's couch. They're like Ricky Bobby and Calanon. You know, shake a big.
Starting point is 01:56:26 Yeah. Big plays also killed the Rams. Besides Clayton Kershaw, big plays killed the Rams. And the game that we just saw end, the Ravens and the Browns. I did a little more chasing, okay? We were on the Ravens, we were on the under, and both hit, and that's great. The AFC North is chaos.
Starting point is 01:56:47 I love it. I just love it. I mean, I knew that was going to be a tough one, because I waited until 825 or 820 or whatever the last second was. I just didn't think it was going to be that tough, that sloppy. I mean, some of the picks that Lamar was throwing early in the game, man. Like, maybe it's Rust. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:57:05 I know that he's been in and out. He missed a walkthrough this week. He was out last week. You know, like maybe they're just getting back on the same page. But this was not his best day. They did enough to win, it looks like. So that's all that matters. How many turnovers total, Reed?
Starting point is 01:57:20 Six total turnovers. Four interceptions from Baltimore, two fumbles from Cleveland. There you go. So this is the best thing that the Ravens did, man. When I was really nervous about this game for one reason, Nick Chubb, okay, who to me is the best running back in the game. They did a great job up front, 40 rushing yards on 17 carries.
Starting point is 01:57:43 Yeah, that's unfortunate. And so that's when you strip the Browns bear, that's what they look like. You know, I'm not trying to be unfair to Baker because I certainly respect him, but they got to do more when Nick Chubb isn't rolling. And by the way, O.A, it sucks Jack Conklin. They lost him early on this play,
Starting point is 01:58:02 but like they were not even going to show this stutter bowl that OA just decleaded a 315 pound man with. OA is figuring some shit out, dude. He's going to be pretty good for a long time. And once that backup came in the game, he kept getting after. He made some of the biggest plays of the night. All the edge guys, really.
Starting point is 01:58:24 OA had four pressures by himself in the first half and was active. So, yeah, ugly game and the Ravens have got to get together, but we already knew they're not that good. Lamar is just really valuable and covers up for a lot of deficiencies. So thankful. And you had a big miss. I had a big miss because before the game, I even said it out loud, the race to 20.
Starting point is 01:58:51 Yeah. That neither team to make it, the odds were plus 4,500. And I didn't bet anything on it. Plus 4,500. You were close, huh? What were you going to bet on that? that game. $10 probably to make, what would that be?
Starting point is 01:59:13 10 times. That would be $450. A quick $450. Bro, and imagine if you'd have done $100. It's at least $1,000 you'd win there. Told you I'm good at math. Speaking of math, the Browns are down to 18% to make the playoffs. They're now on our Hunger Games watch alert.
Starting point is 01:59:34 They actually have a weird schedule where... No, no, no. blow the whistle now. Blow whistle? Yeah. I think you might be right. I mean, they have a buy coming up and then their next game is against Baltimore
Starting point is 01:59:44 who they just played. Yeah, these division sandwiches late in the year, like, you know, it's almost like they play a mini series, the same thing with the Eagles. And it's nice though,
Starting point is 01:59:57 late in the year, a little less travel, a little, like some of these East Coast divisions. That was cool for me late in my career. When I was in St. Louis, we were going, to the West Coast, and that's a three and a half hour flight,
Starting point is 02:00:09 and I told you we had a flock of geese and the plane and the whole thing. Anyways, let me give him one more week before I, out of respect for the defensive player of the year, Miles Garrett and the best running back in the league, Nick Chubb. You have those two players and you're struggling. I know you've had injuries. For Cleveland and for Buffalo, and I hate to twist the knife, to feel like, you know, exercise the demons. I have exercised the demons.
Starting point is 02:00:36 Like, oh, we got that Pats monkey off our back. Oh, hey, the Browns are here. We beat up the Steelers in a big spot last year. Like, we were over the hump. No, you're not, dude. The NFL's so hard. That's the hardest part about some of these tortured fan bases that I respect so much hanging in there for so long
Starting point is 02:00:55 and they think they're out of the woods, and it's a maze. There's just more woods. Just more woods. The Browns are going to be starting over soon at quarter. We know it. Everybody knows it. It's not even the quiet part out loud anymore.
Starting point is 02:01:10 Like you know what I mean? Like it sucks. And the bills, they're not starting over at quarterback, but if they don't win next week, people are gonna be like, damn, we missed our window. So it sucks. I'll wait next week out of respect for those players I mentioned on the Jennifer Lawrence thing.
Starting point is 02:01:26 Also this night game, this was my Bevel Conway. Oh, really? Yeah. I really like. Browns Unis were beautiful. The all white with the orange helmet and the old school numbering decals. And then the Ravens, all black is, I just, there's something about it. All black at night, dude.
Starting point is 02:01:49 With the little bit of purple, like, it just works. It also works if you're a really physical football team, which they are. You can't, it's kind of like. I said that in the back too, that it, for whatever reason, it makes them look or seem, more intimidating, not that that matters. Uniforms. Yeah, but like, not that that matters in football or, like, just in general. It's just like a red teams win a lot in football.
Starting point is 02:02:12 There's a whole study on that. Red teams win, like, a higher rate than everybody else. I will say this, Ravens, looked great, Lamar, black sleeves. What did I say to you? I was worried about fumbles. I don't know if he fumbled the ball, but, like, putting sleeves on looks sick, but it also is a sign that, to me, when you change your swag suddenly that you're going through something. It's like getting a haircut.
Starting point is 02:02:35 Seriously, whenever somebody gets a haircut and read, are you okay? I meant to ask because you got a haircut a couple weeks ago. I did get a haircut. I'm okay. I always feel like whenever I shave or do something drastic or cut my hair like I'm going through some shit. To get a haircut, haircuts usually are like it's like I'm starting over. I'm changing. No, I mean like not a maintenance cut. I mean like a whoa, what you do to your hair. Oh, I see what you're saying. I'm kind of the same thing. Shave it all. I've never seen Lamar with sleeves. Okay. Okay. Is he worn sleeves ever? So yeah, I don't, I'm just. a little worried about the sleeves. Maybe there's a real functional reason. Hey, we'll be back
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