Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Week 13 Recap. Gregg Williams Firing. State Of The Eagles, Joe Judge & The Giants, and A Green Light Giveaway.
Episode Date: December 7, 2020(00:40) - Welcome, UVA vs Virginia Tech, and Green Light Giveaway. (15:51) - Kansas City Recap and MNF Previews. (22:43) - Week 13 Review. (41:45) - Week 13 Superlatives. Sign up for your DraftKings a...ccount at https://www.draftkings.com/sportsbook and use promo code : Greenlight Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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But about the time Dan Bailey missed his third kick of the day,
I had to go to the little boys room and pray.
And I literally am watching Dan Bailey miss that kick as I am projectile vomiting into the toilet.
I'm sorry, this is a raw podcast.
Happy Monday afternoon, everybody.
This is the Greenlight Pod.
I'm your host, Chris Long.
This is my flu game.
This is my, I'm Willis Reed right now.
you know, out of the tunnel.
I have been having a GI issue.
Now, I know what you're thinking.
You probably have COVID.
Maybe I do.
I don't know.
But it feels a lot more like food poisoning.
At the risk of opening the show with TMI,
I spent a lot of the day yesterday praying to the porcelain gods during the Sunday slate.
And I was intent on doing a pod at night, but I just could no longer focus.
I haven't eaten since I ate raising canes yesterday.
via Grubhub at noon.
That was like I started to feel sick Saturday night
and I thought to myself,
well, if there's anything I'm really excited about eating,
it would be a big Caney Hat combo
with the Texas toast and the fries.
Of course it gets here.
I don't get the alert that it's been sitting outside the door
for 10 minutes out in the cold.
I ate it. It was delicious.
Raising Cains has the best sauce.
Had a nice big sprite that came with it.
I thought maybe I was around in the corner.
But about the time Dan Bailey missed his third kick of the day,
I had to go to the little boys room and pray.
And I literally am watching Dan Bailey miss that kick as I am projectile vomiting into the toilet.
I'm sorry, this is a raw podcast.
Just the way it is.
I'm feeling a little bit better now, but the last thing I have eaten as of noon Monday,
1230 Monday is that Kaniak combo.
So it's been 24 hours no food.
I'm just turning this into a fast.
Man, I hate being sick.
Hopefully I'm good.
We'll see the way I feel the rest of the night,
but I just couldn't get that pot out to you this morning.
And I apologize.
But I'm not really sorry because like I told you guys last week,
I'm going to be a healthier podcaster.
That means sometimes if you're not feeling well,
if it's 3 a.m. and it's not working.
I'm just going to podcast at my leisure.
And I think you guys are down for that.
So I appreciate you.
Listen, it is tech week.
It is hate week.
I'm, you know, I'm Virginia Cavalier.
I got some Virginia fans that probably listen to this podcast.
Anybody out there know about the Virginia Tech, Virginia rivalry?
Well, it just became a rivalry again.
They had beaten us 15 years a row, including four while I was there.
It felt like 100.
And last year, Bryce Perkins and those guys got
the monkey off their back, our backs, the program's backs off Charlottesville's back, and they
kicked the door down. And it feels like with Bronco Menon Hall making this offense really
competent, the defense physical, that we are trending up and we are building something. And
Justin Fuentes is struggling a little bit to write the ship in Blacksburg. What goes up must come down,
maybe, but we got to take care of business this week, right?
We got to take care of business.
I'm super excited about Saturday.
Going down to Blacksburg with a chance to hold that Commonwealth Cup for two years.
Hey, maybe we can't get it done.
There was a lady Saturday night watching the Virginia Tech Clemson game that had the floor.
Okay.
There was a review in the first half that didn't go Tech's way.
And obviously in an empty stadium, fans have more.
opportunity to be heard than ever before.
Here she goes.
We're rolling on the field is confirmed.
Run to stop short, the goal lot.
Thank you, Jeff.
So I tweeted, you know, I did the stay classy tweet, but it wasn't like a state classy
I'm shitting on tech fans.
It was like a state classy San Diego.
But y'all took a personal.
I don't blame you.
It's hard when all you had was a 15-year win streak in the sport of football and it's over and the program's trending down.
I get it. You're really sensitive right now. Just try not to put too much on this game this weekend.
Hopefully we beat you up. It might be two years in a row. You guys have a longstanding great program.
I said this over the weekend. I tweeted it. You know what, Tech? I took four fat ls to you in college.
I mean, talk about showing up on campus.
the big rivalry, you never get to beat them.
I'll never beat them in my entire life.
I'm 35.
It's over.
It's been over, right?
I have never beaten Virginia Tech.
That bothered me so much for five years.
Well, three to five years.
I don't remember how long.
But then one day I woke up and got over and I was like, did I, did I hang on to high school
bullshit in college?
I used to literally have dreams.
This is no bullshit.
Recurring dreams that we were playing tech.
And I was in the locker room.
and I couldn't get my pads on.
And I was just watching.
It was almost like you were drunk trying to put your pads and your pants,
which is a whole process as a player.
And you're always up against it to get out on the field.
For some reason,
I would be just stuck.
Like I could not get my pads and my pants on.
And I'd watch the game kind of dwindled down on the screen in the locker room.
And then I'd get ready and I'd go out and everybody was coming back in.
And I don't remember if we beat tech or lost the tech.
and all those dreams, but I had those dreams for a couple years.
That's no bullshit.
To say I haven't thought about Virginia Tech other than like a few weeks a year as a football
fan the last 10 years or whatever it is, that would be an understatement.
I am totally at peace with not beating tech.
I'm just a fan.
So I'm hoping these guys take care of business weekend.
But what I did say is, and I want to clear this up, I don't hate tech fans.
I do not, especially a year like 2020.
I'm not going to do this like argue online really divisively with people over a football game.
We disagree on enough stuff in this country.
And it's been such a shit year, you know, novel coronavirus, all that stuff.
I'm not going to scream at tech people online.
It's all in good fun.
I hope we win.
But you guys are terrible at making people hate you.
I tweeted that Saturday night.
You guys beat me four times in college.
You've had a vice grip on the football matchup for the better part of two decades.
and I still can't find it in my heart to hate you.
That just means you suck it and making people hate you.
So take that for what it is.
I don't know if I'm complimenting you in like a backhanded way.
A lot of friends that went to tech,
some people in my wedding, that sort of thing.
Some of my best friends went to tech, their hokey's.
I really don't have a cultural issue with tech.
I just want to beat you.
Now, if you were a Maryland grad, like Scott Van Pelt or Tori Smith,
Yeah. You'd be the exception, not the rule, if I got along with you. I do respect tech. I hope we kick your ass this weekend. Hey, the music thing. All right? We got, I mentioned this last week. And of course, in true, making and I fashion, we fumbled rolling this out. But I said last week, we're getting rid of the intro music that we have. And some of y'all really like the music. Some of you all have been, you know,
You haven't given it a glowing endorsement, but I haven't really paid attention to it because
to be honest, when you're doing a podcast, the last thing you're thinking about is the music,
and it takes time to go out and replace intro music. I think the music served us just fine.
But I said this year, actually last year, I told my guy Ian, I said, Ian, shout out to Ian.
I need you to start, like, I'm going to make a list of like 10 songs that I would love to have,
you know, introing this pod. Can you go try to get that done for me?
it is a process you know like you go to these groups um and it's going to cost you money some of them
aren't real keen on it some take a while to get back to you you know some of the artists are
passed away and you're dealing with the family i mean like it is a process to uh to get music for
your intro we are changing the intro uh we cleared uh i guess you would say cleared a sample
of one of my favorite songs by one of my favorite artists
and we will be rolling that out real soon here.
So what we said last week, really impulsive on the Friday pot.
You know the Friday pot.
It's like a shit show.
It's just two dudes bullshitting.
It's a lot less nuts and bolts football.
We said, hey guys, if you pop into the comments, guess the correct artist, you only get one guess, you have a chance to go to Disney World.
That was just on the spot.
Making made that up.
and I went along with it because I think it would be really fun to send a green light correspondent down to Disney World if they can do it safely to see what that place is all about right now.
Hell, you know what?
You can take your significant other.
If you get the artist correct, you can take your significant other down to Disney World on Greenlight Studios.
You got to bring a GoPro and a microphone.
But I realize that there's no way for us to correspond with you if you've commented and left the five-star review.
I encourage subscribing.
I encourage five-star reviews.
If you're listening right now and you haven't done that in a while,
if you've never rated us five stars and you've been religiously listening to us,
help us out, man.
You know, I appreciate you.
Do it right now.
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Just do it.
Pull the car over, you know.
Stop for a second.
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Subscribe if you haven't.
If you think it's any good.
But don't leave a comment with the band or artist's name, your best guest.
do that on Twitter.
You're going to need to direct message the Greenlight handle, Greenlight with Chris Long on Twitter,
and DM your one guess for what artist is going to be playing this intro on our podcast going forward here.
If you get it right on your first guest, you're going to Disney World.
You've got to be the first one to get the artist or band correct.
So rush to Twitter, DM us.
Fucking Disney World, man.
You get the Epcot Center all to yourself.
You can stay and, you know, all, you can go stay where Danny Green stayed, where LeBron stayed.
We probably won't put cheap as sweet, you know, like some of those Lakers players had.
But like I said, Friday, a lot of water features, cranes, wildlife, shit like that.
Less people, presumably.
It's like a dream going to Disney World right now.
I don't know if there's a ton of, it is in Florida, so it's probably packed.
But if you get, if you get a chance to go to Disney World right now, that's like your dream opportunity to visit Disney World.
We will send you there if you get the artist right.
Hey, picks for the weekend.
We're going to start doing this.
A little twist on giving out picks for the entire Sunday slate.
Me and Stanford Steve did it last week.
And I think I was around 500.
This weekend, Makin and I for the first week,
and we'll do it next week with the graphic,
decided to pick the entire Sunday slate.
So the record will reflect that next weekend.
I know you're going to be like,
well, haven't you guys done it all year?
Well, we didn't fucking think about it.
Okay.
This weekend, your boy was on a little bit of a heater with his picks.
Cowboy Reid can attest to this.
We sent the picks in before the game.
I went seven and five.
Macon went one in 11.
He claims there's an asterix by his tally.
He would have took the Colts if he did it over.
So here was the twist on our picks.
And we'll be doing this the rest of the way.
We're going to let our lovely wives pick as well.
I mean, talk about carving our own niche in the podcasting world.
The minute we drop this weekly graphic, other podcasters are going to be shaking in their
boots because if their wives find out that we're doing this and including their wives in this
activity, the heat is on them. Hot seat, every other podcaster that's married that sees,
that sees the fact that we include our lovely wives and everything we do. Shots fired at Big Cat,
shots fired at, you know, PFT. I don't see them doing a graphic with, uh, with their significant
others, their lovely wives. They should get to pick too. You know why they should get to pick?
Because my wife won the whole fucking thing. Okay. Meg went eight and four. I went seven to five.
by 8 and 4. Megan's lovely wife, Kate went 4 and 8, but she did beat out her husband.
And Kate picked against all my former team. So I don't know, I don't know if that was a shot at me.
In summation, and I said this to Macon, I said, you know, our house must must be the best house.
And his response was, the best house is the Waffle House, which is where I'm headed. It's clinched.
I lost our Thursday night time machine.
There's no way for me to get back into it.
The lead is insurmountable.
The deficit is insurmountable, I should say.
We've been picking Thursday games, me and making all season long,
and I can't seem to pick any of those.
I had more picks right yesterday than I do on Thursday night games all season in the head-to-head
with making.
And the loser of that, of course, has to spend 24 hours in a waffle house.
I'm down, man.
You get one hour off for every waffle you eat.
I don't know if I'm going to eat.
I'm going to try to cram waffles down my gullet
or if I'm just going to enjoy the
the service, you know,
24 hours to myself,
it's like a vacation,
bring a book,
do some podcasting,
do all the stuff that dads have to do,
you know,
when they sneak into the other room
to check their phone or check the score,
that sort of thing.
I might spend a Sunday
watching football in a Waffle house,
okay?
I might spend a Saturday.
get my devices.
You bring a couple cell phones and just set that shit up
and have the whole board in my little booth at the Waffle House.
I wonder how people working at the Waffle House are going to take to me
spending 24 hours at the Waffle House.
Another thing you have to consider is timing.
When do you start?
I don't want to be in there with all the drunk people,
but two, three in the morning unless they serve alcohol at Waffle House,
which I don't think they do.
Maybe I'll bring a flask in and party with everybody.
But I figure right now in the time of,
of the novel coronavirus that is not as happening.
As usual, I could be wrong.
There's a Waffle House right here in Charlottesville.
So if you listen to this pod and you're involved with that establishment at all,
you might be seeing me there in the next couple months.
That is pending the status of this pandemic.
Man, by the way, I actually had my wife Meg last night asking me what the line
on the Kansas City game was.
So she's into this shit.
She's feeling good about herself.
Eight and four just learned how spreads work.
The funniest thing was I saw the wheels turning and I picked the Eagles and she just
cringed.
It was like, I'm going with the Packers.
Okay, so last night Kansas City got bored.
That's the way I see that.
You know, hey, listen, if the Tyreek Hill touchdown stands, which was inexplicable
to me, if you're Andy.
you get some do-overs, you get some mulligans.
But I was watching the play, and it seemed like I was the only person,
and you guys probably felt the same way that knew that that was probably a touchdown.
It was crazy to me if they didn't get a, they almost rushed to punt.
They didn't even look at it.
Tyreek Hill didn't know he caught the ball.
And I get it because probably the way it was set and you didn't know if it was resting on the ground or not.
I mean, and the defender's kind of, you know, standing over him.
I don't think anybody knew it was caught.
And I think if they connect on that play, the game turns out a lot different.
But the boredom that you see from Kansas City, you know, this is the team last year
that ran it up and down the field against the bucks, right?
And Denver's got a good defense and all that.
Division games, close games late in the year.
That's kind of what you expect in division, no matter how good or how bad teams are.
But let's be real.
I mean, the chiefs have a lot of variability, okay?
quarter to quarter, half to half.
And this is why this stretch run is so important for them.
I don't think the Steelers relinquished this one-game lead.
I think it's good for the Steelers to stay sharp into the playoffs,
to have Kansas City breathing down their necks.
I think it helps them.
I think it helps them stay sharp.
I think that if you've got to buy and you take that week off and week 17,
you're kind of shutting it down, that can create some rust.
Both these teams are going to be sharp going into the playoffs.
But Kansas City needs this buy more than Pittsburgh does, in my opinion.
I know that there's the age factor in Pittsburgh.
You might think, oh, they really need the buy.
Certainly it's not going to hurt physically for them to get well.
They have a veteran football team.
But Kansas City is so variable that, and be honest, if you're listening to this,
you might be a Kansas City fan.
I think the Chiefs might be a better football team.
Probably are a more,
they're definitely a more explosive football team than the Steelers.
But Steelers are my Super Bowl pick,
and I feel pretty good about that right now because,
or at least them coming out of the AFC,
because for all the bad games they've played,
they haven't lost.
And a team like that winning three games,
I feel a lot better about then a team as variable.
as the chiefs winning four.
Okay, and that might sound obvious.
It sounds like simple mathematics,
but the chiefs live dangerously in the postseason last year, right?
They faced two multiple score deficits right off the bat, okay?
They were rusty coming out of the buy.
So maybe they don't need the buy.
Maybe what they need is to come right in and play that first weekend.
But I really think they could use it because,
you fall down to Houston by three scores, okay?
You can't live that way week in and week out.
And probably from a coaching standpoint,
that was the perfect team to fall down three scores too.
They survived there.
They fall down two scores to Tennessee.
Tennessee's got the four-minute ability.
So they can pound you into submission and just be done with you
and bleed out the clock.
That was a really impressive comeback for them the way late in the second quarter,
they're down 17-7 and it looks like it's Tennessee's ballgame and Tennessee had beaten them
earlier in the year.
But you can't do that week in and week out.
And that's why I'm saying they really need that by week.
Not to get well.
I actually think it'd probably make them a little rusty as they exhibited last year.
But the simple mathematics of the probability that they have one of these stinkers and
survive the playoffs because they have one more game than Pittsburgh.
Who is less variable?
Pittsburgh has not been sexy this year.
They've just won football games.
And, you know, people are going to talk about the two games tonight.
Everybody's identifying this Washington game is a really trappy game.
You know, the Dallas game was a really trappy game.
Okay.
Washington, the respect quotient for them has skyrocketed, right or wrong.
Capable quarterback, capable.
The rookie back has been outstanding in Gibson.
the defense, the front.
We talked about them from the beginning of the year,
although I thought we overreacted because they played the Eagles.
I said this week one, I said,
you're going to crown that Washington defensive line for hitting Carson Wentz 36 times.
Well, what's played out the rest of the year?
And they also gave them most of those sacks.
Washington's D-lines physical,
and you hope that Ben can get the ball out.
That's been his MO this year.
And that's kind of, that's kind of the collateral damage of him getting the ball out quick
has been a little bit of Ben Slander,
a little bit of like he doesn't have it anymore.
He can't throw the deep ball.
They've just committed to being a conversion team.
They've committed to be a dink and dunk team.
The run game has to improve.
But I don't see them losing this game.
I don't see them losing this game.
The Dupree injury sucks.
And let me just say this.
I'm a big fan of Bud Dupree, man.
You know, I remember when he first got to Pittsburgh,
people were freaking out about the SAC numbers.
Bud Dupree is never going to be, you know,
a Von Miller.
Bud Dupree is never going to be a premier,
true edge rusher. Bud Dupree is a fucking football player. He does everything they ask him to do. He can
rush well enough. He plays the run super physical. He drops in coverage. He makes plays on the ball.
And he's just, he's a bell cow. And I got a lot of respect for him. And I love kind of the fact that
this year he was finally getting the recognition he deserved. That's a big loss. You know,
you already lost your best inside backer. Now you've lost the robin to your back.
man, which makes a big difference, although I still think T.J. Watt gets his. It's just there's a lot of
unknown about how that defense is going to shake out down the stretch, adding, you know, Dupree to
that list of guys who, who they're not going to see. And you've got Bill's Niners tonight.
Big question is how much difference does it make the Niners are traveling for a home game?
We talked about it. They're in Arizona, but they're there for the long term. They're there for
long haul for a couple weeks now. They're playing with their backs against the walls in the
west. And Buffalo doesn't have any breathing room. So, you know, if you're looking to bet that
game or you're trying to get a lean based on, well, this is going to be more to this team or the
other way around, they're both, they're both in situations where they have to win. Big shout out
to Joe Judge. Okay, I was going to shout them out anyways, huge win yesterday. But I read this
morning in the little Peter King column there that Joe Judge gets the sleep thing.
Holy shit.
He actually gets it for years.
For years, I would go out west and play somebody.
And we get home at six in the morning, win or lose, plane ride back, landing at four
or five in the morning.
You get home, you go to sleep when the sun's coming up.
You wake up at 2 p.m. the next day.
Then you've got to be in early the next day at like 7 a.m.
It makes no sense.
you're dragging the entire week.
A lot of players don't want to stay the night
because they just want to get their asses home.
I was obsessed with my recovery.
I would have given anything to stay out west on a West Coast trip.
And it's so funny because a lot of people say,
well, if you stay out west,
and obviously this is irrelevant right now,
guys want to go out.
There has to be a curfew, that sort of thing.
My ass was in the room so fast on an edible.
Are you kidding me?
I was going to get 12 hours of sleep.
I would have been so happy.
The best sleep you get is an NFL player.
is in the hotel. That's if you're not rooming next to a DB who wakes up early in the morning
and plays, you know, Young Dolph on Spotify through his Bluetooth speaker in the bathroom at 7 a.m.
Like super loud. That was always an issue. But other than that, sleep in the hotel, it's gold.
And that first night after game, the recovery is so big, dude. When I was young and I was in St. Louis,
we used to rip it. We used to go out after game. Me and that whole D-line, we would go,
hit the street still three in the morning. Okay, that was our night to let loose, right? Go kick
ass at the stadium and then go tear it up. And we all went out as a group. But then I got older.
And one of the biggest recovery bumps for me in my career was when I had to was shutting it down
on Sunday nights. And Joe Judge gets the sleep thing rather than guys being tight, dealing with
injuries, dehydrated, getting in a metal tube, shortening your hip flexors. I know this all sounds like
next level shit to some of y'all, or it might sound irrelevant. But when you have been
busting your ass and everything sore, sitting on an airplane in a seated position for six hours
and not sleeping or sleeping sideways in the aisle of an airplane, it's just not good business
for your body. The best investment you can make is in the health of your players in an NFL team.
That's why I always bitch about like coaches that don't let their players sit in first class.
on long trips. The players are back in coach, crammed in like sardines. You need a 360 pound guy
to protect your franchise the next day, like your franchise, but because the coaches want to sit
in first class and spread the fuck out before they go out to dinner with their wives on a
Saturday night and enact a curfew on all the players. They want to live, you know, in the lap
of luxury. The players are back there and coach. It doesn't make sense. Invest in,
in your players, invest in their health.
Joe Judge gets the sleep thing.
Congratulations to Joe Judge.
Also, I got killed for taking issue with people kind of slandering Joe Judge over the spring.
Kind of inadvertently, he had just gotten hired.
Listen, I did a whole pot on the Rooney Rule.
I am all about bettering opportunities for coaching candidates of color.
Like, I see the problem.
It's there.
Let's fix it.
But, you know, it was one day, Stephen A, who I really like, was on first take.
and Swagoo was on there who's killing it.
Also, I don't think he listened to this podcast,
but I think he's going to take a trip down here to me and Swagoo
are going to go hunting one of these days.
He's going to take a trip down and see what this central Virginia life is all about.
We had chopped it up about that a little bit.
So I'm a big fan of those guys,
but I disagreed with the dismissiveness that the conversation was friendly.
I understand the conversation was,
I understand the conversation was, damn, this keeps happening.
You know, like coaches keep getting passed up.
But to tack on at the end of that conversation, and Joe Judge, he's a special teams coach.
You know, just hiring special teams coaches out here.
Some of the best coaches we've ever had in our league's history are special teams coaches.
Okay.
Also, I think there's something to coaches knowing, you know, what their strengths are and getting
the fuck out of the way in the other phases of the game, unless they're really good.
good. Okay, we're going through something right now in Philly, where, you know, Doug's kind of on
trial from an offensive standpoint. It gets complicated when the head coach is also calling the
plays in some capacity. It works a lot of times, but there can also be a positive to having a guy
whose strength is on the third side of the ball. And another thing about being a special
teams coach is you understand players. You've got to coach all the players on your team.
When I was in Philly, I had two conversations with Frank Wright. Okay. When I was in New
when I talked to Josh McDaniels a little bit more because we had a history in St. Louis.
And in St. Louis, I didn't talk to Brian Schottenheimer or the seven other
offensive coordinators that we had there over my, actually it was probably like 10.
You know, there's something to a special teams coach that gets to see everybody's face,
gets to interact with everybody.
At some point or another, you're going to be in a special teams meeting during a season.
And I think that gave Joe Judge, that gives Joe Judge a really good advantage.
you worry about people's, you know, coaches people skills coming out of New England.
That's a nice advantage there.
And don't get me wrong, that first press conference, I was like, oh, shit.
My man is, I think, you know, he would have scared me right out of the hotel and training camp for that press conference.
And you know it's physical.
And Leonard Williams and these guys talked about it.
Like at first, the fact that they're openly saying at first, we were kind of spooked by this Joe Judge guy.
The fact that they're openly saying that is that they love this guy.
Like that proves that they love this guy because you wouldn't say that if you didn't love him.
You know, you wouldn't even put that out there.
He has this locker room.
You can see it.
And again, I get the frustration with everybody's hiring practices in the NFL,
but I thought we were very dismissive talking about Joe Judge because of special teams.
And everybody hates New England.
And I get it.
And not all the coaches pan out.
And we overvalue assistance coming out of New England.
But I will say this, this weekend.
And I can't remember a time this ever happened.
England disciples, branches of that tree, including the roots of that tree, Bill Belichick,
three and out. Because O'Brien, Maddie P., on the couch, Biflow, Joe Judge, Bill Belichick,
that's probably the single best day for New England, you know, understudies in recent history.
And so I think that Joe Judge can be enough of his own guy and keep that New England edge.
he's a Philly guy, he's a tough guy.
I mean, this team started 0 and 5, and they lost one of the best backs in football for the year.
They had to win two games with Colt McCoy now, including the one we just saw yesterday.
They've played up to everybody they've faced.
You know, earlier this year, Makin and I were talking about them possibly being in the sweepstakes for sunshine.
but over that span they lost one score games to the bears the rams the cowboys washing in the eagles
the bucks then they played a couple bad teams and uh they got some confidence and they finished
and now they have a real deal win now the one thing that probably when you look back to those games
that has nothing to do with coaching or it does depending on you know what situation you're putting
your quarterback in but when you have a quarterback like danny dimes whose kind of m o has been
to give the ball up to the other team.
And in situations that have nothing to do with Joe Judge,
that's what's holding you back.
I mean, maybe if they don't turn the ball over,
they're looking at being an eight, nine win team
with everything that we've considered,
if they stole a couple of those games earlier in the season.
I know if it was a fifth, we'd all be drunk.
But like, this is a team I respect right now,
and Joe Judge is the reason.
And the Cardinals better be ready.
They play them this week.
Cardinals, I think, are out.
but they could definitely be out this weekend because they could lose the Giants.
And actually, I'm looking at the Giants, they could split and salvage the honor of the NFC East
and be a seven-win team.
Because if you, winning a division at seven, teams have gone on and won playoff games in those
situations.
There was, I think, a seven-win team last year in the Eagles that won the NFCEs.
So as to the Seahawks, maybe the least trustworthy team out there.
I got to look closer at what happened to that offense.
I mean, Pete Carroll looked confused.
I still think they probably find a way to win the West.
We used to kill that offense in St. Louis.
We used to get after their ass, go six and ten and watch them in the Super Bowl.
Okay.
Like, we would kick their ass.
I think the year they won the Super Bowl against Denver,
we had held Marchanda like 50 yards rushing and them to like 17 points
on Monday night and still found a way to lose.
Like we'd sack Russell.
Man, Russell Wilson made me more money.
Okay, so this team can get cold.
And like we've said, this team could win any week.
They could lose any week.
And that's a pretty poor job they've done in the NFC East the last two weeks
because I think one of the biggest leads that got buried out of last week
because we were so enamored with the Carson Wentz debate is what the fuck?
The Seahawks made that really, really tough.
going there and beating an Eagles team that's doing nothing offensively.
And again, that defense is tough and they've made things hard on Russell in the past.
But not a great two-week stretch for them.
And it's not like they've just had one isolated incident of offensive ineptitude.
This is now a second spell for them.
And Russ is out of the MVP race.
I mean, that was my MVP to come into season.
And they're my Super Bowl pick out of the NFC.
I'm not going to bail because I would love to get all the big.
gigs for celebrating or for predicting uh stealers over over seattle uh there's still an outside
chance to get the right score and everything you know at that point i'm probably not podcasting anymore
i'm probably just getting whatever great job is out there you know right because if you predict the
super bowl it's like a life changer i don't know honestly if anybody would fucking notice i'd probably
be pushing socials out left and right and everybody would ignore me russ didn't look good yesterday
took five sacks, dropped a snap, intentional grounding.
His first pick in three games, it was just such a struggle.
And they're going to have these days because that's who they are.
So hit your wagon to them, if you must, and I did it to start the season.
I'm not going to jump off the bandwagon.
I still do think they win the West, but it would take a hell of a run for them to win in January.
And it looks like they're going to need four games to do it.
Also, shout out to Cornacki, the guy from MSNB,
I don't watch a lot of MSNBC.
I don't watch the news, okay?
I'm not going to, because like, you say you watch the news, it gets political.
But I was watching him a lot in election week, and that was some nerve-wracking shit.
This was a lot more relaxing, watching him break down the viability of the Vikings making the playoffs than it was Donald Trump went in the electoral college.
It was just the stakes were much different.
It was like, oh, that guy, holy shit, I'm not having a panic attack.
This is cool.
He is good at the board.
The one thing I found out about him is he's a Patriots fan, but he's only been a Patriots fan for 15 years,
which I respect his front running admission there, but he's from Ohio.
Speaking of the Patriots, New England, I mentioned the day that their disciples had yesterday.
Bill had a great day. Bill had a vintage Bill day. Okay, he's the other ball for 60 yards. You win 45 to nothing.
I stand by my New England comment. They're not contenders, but they're going to spoil somebody's season.
When I talked to a guy in that locker room after the Baltimore game, the sense was that this team was really turning the corner.
And I was kind of like, oh, you sure?
Like, yeah, they're kind of turning a corner.
And again, I don't think they're contenders, but they're going to fuck somebody's year up.
And I am so pulling for them to slide in.
I just like seeing Bill do, it's a lot like watching Sean Payton do what he's doing down in New Orleans right now.
Okay.
And by the way, you see the gap that was closed in three weeks of prep.
this Tassam Hill thing is not forever.
You beat the Falcons twice and the Broncos, okay?
But it's still just a testament to how great Sean Payton is.
Now, I don't know if there's some, I don't know if there's some angle with the Saints
where, you know, your cap is so fucked next year.
You just take the year.
You play like Army football and you see, you know, you see just how great Sean Payton is.
I suspect he's as great as I think.
he is. But I don't think
Tayson's a long-term quarterback of the future.
I don't think Cam's a long-term quarterback of the future
in New England, but you play with the hands
you're dealt, and I think Bill has taken a lot
of pride in doing what he's doing right now.
I think he's enjoying this just as much as having
a 13-win team.
He is seeing how creative he can be,
and he's seeing how complimentary
the football team can be of each other when it comes
the sides of the ball, winning on special teams.
Listen, yesterday, there was a graphic on CBS,
and one of the main things was don't get beat on special teams.
What do you do?
You get a punt block, Devin McCordy.
Dev, you're older now, but you look pretty fast running that ball into the end zone.
I was pretty impressed with that.
And what else?
Oh, yeah, the Gunnar O'Shefsky punt return for touchdown.
I mean, so it's 14 points right there in a game that's a pick-um.
It's over, dude.
It's over.
You don't give up scores on special teams.
You don't give them up on offense.
where you hand the ball to the other team and it's a pick six or fumble return for touchdown.
Those are just things that crush you.
And when you give up 14 points worth of them, it's over.
This was the vintage bill.
This is the best rookie quarterback he might have ever faced, okay?
In recent history, 43 rating, okay?
And I'm not going to pass any judgment on Justin Herbert over this one.
Interesting game this week, L.A.
I'm really looking forward to that one.
Short week for New England.
How do they travel?
evidently I hear they're standout west for the Rams game, but the Raiders couldn't stay out east over the last two weeks between Atlanta and New York.
I got to look and see how they found that loophole.
But if they are staying out west, that's the wise move.
If they're able, then they have Miami.
So the Patriots are going to go two games on the West Coast, then a game in the Caribbean, essentially.
And that's nice.
That's a nice break for the guys that live somewhere where it's.
it's dark at 3 p.m. I mean, nothing against Foxborough, but, you know, come on. You'd rather spend
a week in L.A., a week in Miami, any day of the week, especially this late in the season. When it's
late in the season, you play somewhere cold and you go somewhere for an extended period out west,
your bones just feel good, your joints feel good. You get out on the practice field and you don't
have to stretch for 30 minutes, you know, maybe I don't even need a hot tub. It's like,
I'm just running out there and spry like I'm 26. The Rams match up.
will be huge. I had a guy who listed the pod. Shout out to Jordan. Told me him and his fiance
are naming, I guess naming a baby and I have to pick the game. I have to pick the game.
And she's, I guess I suppose she's a Rams fan. He's a Pat's fan. It was late last night.
Shout out to Jordan. I kind of copped out last night and said, I would just pick the under
because I think it's going to be that kind of game. But I'll get you a pick later in the week.
Okay, we, it's a lot of responsibility for your boy.
But did have a nice week this Sunday.
And somebody's going to win no matter what there when it comes to naming the babe.
Interesting game yesterday, Indie Houston.
Ty Wylton came back alive.
What a great catch on the sideline, man.
Like right off the bat, there was the pick play.
And that was a great job by Trey Burton on the pick play.
And then T.Y. Hilton with the acrobatic catch.
I don't know how he got two feet down.
He is such an underappreciated football player.
and he's had a long spell of no hundred yard games and that sort of thing.
I don't know if that ended yesterday, but it'll be nice down the stretch.
Listen, the pitman domino, right?
The pitman domino is huge.
Pitman's emerging.
TY's, you know, getting back in the fold.
This is a good win for Indy.
I mean, Deshawn, although he's doing it by himself, has been lights out.
And eventually, though, trying to do it by yourself, as often does with Deshawn,
if I have one complaint about Deshawn is sometimes he'll try to do too much.
And I can't blame him in a situation like that.
He's throwing to nobody.
But he ends up taking a sack and then a safety backed up down four.
And, you know, Buckner was back.
They made a big difference.
He had a big day.
Archie was back.
They got a back or back.
I do want to, you know, stats and info type people,
just in Houston getting a safety against the Houston Texans in Houston.
Got to be the first time an opposing player gets a safety.
that's got the namesake of the home city.
Gotta be, right?
I know it's really important.
It's a trend,
but this is the type of shit I see sometimes,
like when I go on a show and they send you notes.
Like, you know, your notes for the week will have stuff like this in it.
So I wonder if I just figured out a stat.
Put that, you know, some stat guy, let me know.
That game was a long walk for a shortfall.
You had the fumbled snap late.
and, you know, that kind of solidifies that, you know, if it wasn't already done for Houston, it's done.
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Let's go superlatives and get out of here.
Because like I said, I know I sound like a million bucks,
but I've been doing the Team America World Police GIF,
just straight vom the last 24.
And again, congratulations to me on being a hero
and showing up and getting it done today.
But I want to get out of here, take a nap.
Didn't sleep a lot last night.
Let's do superlatives.
Okay.
Let's go Best plane ride right off the bat.
I've had people say I don't talk about the Rams enough on this pod, although I've said the Rams probably have the best defense in the league.
The Rams have had a great day yesterday, okay?
Good plane ride, short flight, home in the evening.
McVeigh is full custody.
He has full custody of the Cardinals.
Undefeated.
Also undefeated, this was a stat that I think a lot of people learned yesterday unless I've been living on the rock.
They've never lost, I guess, under McVeigh, leading at the half.
The defense has been great.
I just said it.
Murray doesn't look right, and I am counting the Cardinals out at this point.
This is a two-team race in the NFC West.
I know that, like, mathematically, it's still there for everybody,
but I do see this boiling down to the two best teams.
And that's Seattle and it's L.A.,
and I think Seattle wins the thing.
Gough does big numbers yesterday,
and it kind of looked like a dinkendunk fest early.
I'm so tired of people going back and forth every week on, you know,
Jared's limitations, you know, listen,
The ceiling is there for them at the position.
He's a good football player.
I think he takes a little too much shit.
He is what he is.
There's very few guys that are just fitting the ball into tight windows every week.
And Jared was never going to be one of those guys week in and week out, making acrobatic throws.
They got a great offense.
He runs it.
And to his credit, this was a chin check win.
Okay?
They got punched in the mouth last week.
San Francisco had full custody of L.A.
LA has full custody of the Cardinals.
Nothing in that division makes sense, team to team.
Golf got called out by McVeigh a little bit, and he responded.
And I think that says, well, there's one thing I'm not going to question about that kid,
is his toughness or his mental toughness.
And the game started on a 50-yard, 59-yard touchdown by Dan Arnold from the Cardinals.
and like so immediately you're behind the eight ball on the road they respond and then late they're trying to put the game away they give the cards a gift in the low red and this has the makings of a football team that's grown because they responded to all those things they responded to being chin check last week they you know golf got called out he responded you responded being down seven nothing you responded late in the
in the game when you had it, you played great, and you just give them a gift, you give them seven,
and Drake capitalizes off a fumble. They just kept responding, okay? And in the big scheme of
things, I feel kind of the same way about the Rams. I was wrong about the Rams this year, okay?
I saw them last year coming off that Super Bowl loss, and I overestimated what that kind of
backslide meant. They've done a tremendous job. And they're a good.
football team again. And that's a hard thing to do after you get to those heights and to recover
this quick and stabilize this quick. They've got some staying power. You know, no Todd Gurley,
Whitworth is gone, you know, Saffled left, but they have stayed relevant and good for them.
And I think what's interesting about their defense is a defense continues to cement them as like
possibly a number one defense of the league. And it's not just the first guy you think of. And that's Aaron
Donald. And sure he helps, but that secondary is tremendous. And I, you know, I want to, again,
every time I shout out Aaron Donald, I got shout out Michael Brockers. That one-two punch inside is great.
Floyd, you know, has picked it up this year. And the DC, Staley, Brandon Staley, has done a great
job. I mean, talk about filling big shoes, you know, the Wade Phillips shoes, who was really
well liked there and a legend in the game. Man, that defense is playing well. They're interesting
and they get in. They're so matchup predicated. They could, they could look like world beaters against
somebody and just, so they're another very variable team, but I got to give them their props.
Here's what you came for, Philly. Okay, you only waited almost an hour. Worst plane ride.
The Philadelphia Eagles, okay? Philly Radio this week is going to be a fucking war zone.
They're like literally like wartime correspondence. It's terrible. It's terrible. People are going to be
screaming all week. The anxiety quotient.
is way up just if you have to commute in Philly and you like, I just opt for the classical music
or just turn the, just hit the circle, hit the little circle button and turn your radio off.
I promise you it's not worth you hearing the back and forth.
Protect your mental health in time like this, okay?
Turn it off.
It's just fucking football.
Turn it off and drive to work.
That flight had to be really awkward, okay?
It's a tough time.
When you're on a team like that, everybody's, you know,
on pins and needles, you know, whether it was, you know, Doug who's on trial right now or Howie or, you know,
Jim or obviously Carson. I mean, that's going to be the lead of this segment. But, you know,
Darius Slay was getting skewered yesterday over not playing well the last six days against two of the top
three receivers in the league. The problem is when you're on a bad team, there are very few accountable
people. And everybody is just looking around trying to self-preserve because it's hard not to do that.
nature is to be a self-preservationist. And when you're in a building in a ship that's sinking,
everybody is looking at each other sideways. Like when you walk down the hall, you wonder,
is that person looking at me and thinking, this guy's the problem? You know, and it doesn't matter
who you are on the roster. You're passing Harry Roseman in the hallway. Am I the problem? Are they
seeing the good things I'm doing if I'm playing well? Is that getting lost in the shuffle? Am I being
unfairly blamed for the problems around me, you know, am I going to be here next year? Does Doug
like me? You know, if you're Doug, it's a whole host of issues. And all that, you know, is probably
pretty evident on a very quiet plane ride home where, you know, guys are not making high contact.
You've got Doug, Howie, you've got Carson, those are the three guys under the most stress right now.
and what happens is you avoid making eye contact.
And that's the kind of flight that that probably was.
Let's stick to the quarterback thing.
I, okay, and in general, before I get there,
I would rather be a New York jet right now than a Philadelphia Eagle.
That sounds bold, but neither team is going to the playoffs.
Okay?
We're talking about the future right now, okay?
I would rather be a Jaguar.
I would rather be a Bengal.
I would rather be a Charger.
I'd rather be an eagle than a cowboy.
boy. But this is fucking chaos up there. And I've been on historically bad teams, but when you're
inept on this level and you had expectations like they did, notice the places I just mentioned did not
have the expectations that Philly did. So that's why it's a lot harder to be in the Philly locker
room right now. And by that, I mean, you know, future outlook, but also just how crazy shit
seems right now. And I know things seem crazy in New York and you're like, why would you say you'd
rather be in the Jets locker room right now? The Jets are a win away from like the best night of
their lives. The biggest relief of their lives. Eagles can win a game. They ain't going to change much.
Bengals, they knew who their quarterback of the future is. The Jaguars, they play in a city where
nobody gives a fuck they suck, okay? And also, they have some good bones. And a change is imminent.
In New York, you know a change is imminent. You know they're going to start over. You know you got
Joe Douglas pulling the strings upstairs. You know, Gase is gone. You know, there's going to be the big
ding-dong, the witch's dead moment. And whenever that comes,
you know, there's going to be hope.
And maybe you're going to be drafting Trevor Lawrence.
If you're a jet, if you can hang on and you're under contract, you could be a part of building something.
Okay.
In Philly right now, you play in one of the toughest cities to play when things aren't going well.
And the tradeoff of playing in Philly and I got to see a lot of people were like,
you made the smartest move in history.
You came in, you guys won a Super Bowl.
You stuck around the next year.
y'all got in the playoffs and then you just chucked the deuce because you never had to see
you know a struggling you never had to be on a struggling eagles team and i can see that it's tough right now
okay it's best city in the world to play football in but there's a flip side to that coin right
because people take it seriously you know jacksonville no expectations small market i was in st louis
for a long time we were historically bad okay i've been on historically bad football team
teams. But Mondays were just kind of like, hey, if you're accountable, we'll leave you the fuck
alone. Like, it ain't like that in Philly, right? For better or for worse, wrong or right? Let's
hit the quarterback thing, okay? First off, let me get something straight. I love Carson Wentz's
dude. He was accountable last night. He struggled to clap for Jalen. I know he did. I've been there,
not like obviously on this stage, but, you know, when I give an anecdote, I'm not trying to be
self-important. I'm just, I'm relating my playing career to what, you know, a player might be
going through. Like, like last week, I, I related, you know, D.K. Metcalf being compared to
Megatron, how that might annoy him. And I've been there with comparisons that annoyed me.
That's not to say I'm anywhere near D.K. Metcalf. Listen, I'm not anywhere near, you know,
I was never a quarterback in this, in this league. I never had the spotlight on me like Carson.
But when I was in St. Louis, my eighth year, you know, my seventh year, and I've told the story,
before my seventh year I got rolled up on and broke my leg and my tibia and then tried to come back
too soon. It was awful. And that really put the heat on me for the next year, which was kind of make
a break for me. A couple games in. No, that was the year I broke my leg. So in 14, I had an ankle
surgery. Try to come back too soon. Was awful. Put me under a lot of scrutiny. In 15, 15, I'm just
starting to get my legs back under myself and I break my tibia in Greenback. So I come back from that
game and, you know, I've been a captain. I've played in a hundred games. I've been one of the guys
when you come back from a situation like that and one of my best buddies in football was Greg Williams,
so we'll talk about in a second. I can remember going to Greg's office and being like,
hey, what do I have to do to get my job back? You know, like, and he told me he's like right now,
You know, the way, where you are physically, it's not fair to the other players, you know, for you to, for you to trot out there, you know, and take the majority of snaps and, and to go out and be in the starting lineup.
It's not fair. And I respected that. I, you know, I sat right across the desk from Greg. It was, you know, late fall in St. Louis. I remember like it was yesterday. It was like six o'clock. I just appreciated him shooting me straight.
He told me the truth.
was the only conversation we had to have about it. And what happened on the back end of that
was the guy that took my job was one of my best friends in the world still is, William Hayes,
who I respect greatly as a football player. And right then, where I was physically, he was out playing
me. And it was really hard for me to sit on the sideline, even if it was my best friend and
be excited because he was balling out that year. And I was hurt. And it just was burying me.
and I knew I was done, but I tried to, I tried to, you know, muster up some enthusiasm.
And that's a really awkward position to be in.
So when you talk about like, hey, big whoop, you're cheering for the other guy, you're
being classy, like, it's not easy.
Your whole world is coming down around you.
And Carson has said the right things, okay?
The only thing I don't ever like that Carson said is he's kind of come across is stubborn,
right?
But I'm a stubborn motherfucker, so I'm not going to hold that against him.
he's a good dude.
He's entrenched himself in the Philly community.
You know, he's done the food truck stuff.
He's been very giving.
He spoke out this offseason before so many franchise QBs did on inequities in our country.
I talked about how much I respected him for that.
If not for Carson Wentz, I don't have the ring that validated my career.
This podcaster here.
No way we get there without home field.
No way we go on the road and go on that run.
full stop. And no way, no way I think we lose that game, whether or not Nick or Carson's plan,
they were both lights out that year and the offense was tremendous. And the team was great. We were
a team of destiny. I've called it lightning in a bottle. Maybe it's looking more like that.
And anybody that's mad at me for saying that in that building, if they hear me say it,
is being unrealistic at this point. You'd have to prove that it's not lightning in a bottle.
but without Carson, I don't have that second ring that I take so much pride in.
I don't believe he's consistently that MVP level guy that he was in 17.
Because if he is, he's a Hall of Famer, okay?
I don't think he's a Hall of Famer.
I don't believe he's that guy.
And that's not a slight.
I mean, it's not going on a limb on a morning like this to say he's not that guy.
He's falling so far from that guy.
But I also don't think he's this guy either, okay?
I've said that all year.
You know, 17, he's an MVP, 18, he's not physically ready.
He's coming back from an ACL, you know, he's rushing back.
His back was fucked up.
They didn't make as big a deal as they should have about that.
I don't think he was right physically.
In 19, he overcame a lot of ridiculousness to make the plays he needed to make,
to put them into playoffs.
By the way, I was right about him that year.
And before getting torpedoed into the, you know, into the ground,
with Judeavian clowny's size eight and a half head.
You know, he had played in all the games.
He'd been durable.
But then, you know, he gets a concussion.
And you've got, you know, all the talking heads of the world
questioning his durability on account of that.
You want to question his durability?
Do it on something else.
This year he's been buddy Lee.
Okay, like as a rusher, I would have killed to get 60 snaps
against this Eagles team.
I would have fucking killed.
He has been terrible.
but he has been durable.
So let's pump the brakes on the durability thing.
I've been really hard on him from the beginning of the season.
He's regressed.
I remember the Washington game,
the flurry of mistakes right before the half.
And that was something we talked about.
He's eliminating these spells early in the air.
And then the spells became full games.
It's completely unraveled.
And before I say what I'm about to say,
I want to clear one thing up.
I love Nick Foles like a brother, okay?
Me and Nick Foles are tight.
We're probably tighter than me and Carson are.
Okay.
The thing you don't remember is a lot of people,
a lot of people just don't think about the fact.
I've been on two teams with Nick Foles, okay?
We were together in St. Louis.
I was struggling physically.
I was going through some of the things that we just talked about.
He was bad, okay?
People were calling him Pick Foles.
We've been there.
I've been in the hot tub with Nick Foles in our city
after just embarrassing games
where we both didn't want to come to work.
day and we sat there and had really hard conversations and when he came to st louis he
like me and nick had never really met each other but we hit it off and i've always pulled for
him and you know sharing that second run was really special as two dudes who have been somewhere else
um so that's why you know i think he's one of the toughest best leaders i've ever played with
you know i think he's a legend i think he's streaky he doesn't have the ceiling that carson has
Okay.
Guys got a statue.
Guys got a statue.
You'll never undo that.
But he doesn't have the ceiling Carson has.
And the one big thing is, having said all that, if you don't cut that, they built a shrine for Nick bullshit out.
I built the fucking shrine.
Okay.
So you're talking to this source.
I sent the equipment guys during a Thursday practice to the local gas station,
wherever the fuck they sell those prayer candles.
And I said, get me like six of the most ridiculous prayer.
candles. I got Nick Foll's
autobiography. I'm going to have it half
open in the locker
and I'm going to have the candles
out and we'll light them. And I'll get some
incense too, right? You know, a little incense
you get at CVS which smells great by the way.
That's where the Nick Foll's Shrine
started. It started because I liked the movie
Major League. And I had a cat growing up named Joe
Boo. Okay? It's one of my favorite
movies and I thought like some
positive juju for the backup
quarterback would
keep the team loose.
And it fucking did.
We laughed all afternoon about that.
But of course, the media and some of y'all that can't drop that narrative that, well,
they built a shrine for Nick Foals in 18.
Do you remember that?
That was a clear indicate.
Like, what the fuck?
You don't build shrines for the franchise quarterback.
You build them for the guy who's supposed to step in and, and deliver us to the
promise land.
Like, it's almost like a running.
It's like, okay, this is a Nick, Nick Foals thing.
That's why we did that.
It was a joke.
I mean, there was an autobiography.
I haven't read the book.
Sorry, Nick.
I want my copy signed.
I haven't read the book yet.
I propped the book up.
It's a joke.
If you're using that to formulate an anti-Carsin argument, you are a mouth breather.
And that includes some prominent media members.
I'm not saying you're always, like, that's a mouth breather take.
Okay?
I'm not saying you're a mouth breather.
That's a mouth breather take.
you only build that shrine to go back up shut up and if you did the we should have kept foals thing
and that'll make things better maybe just sit this one the fuck out okay you don't get a second
take after that because foals has been in two places with bad offenses and it hasn't looked
any better okay this is rock bottom for carson wents i got no issue with the move
when i was a player nobody took it easy on me i was a high pinn
I've been benched before.
I've taken criticism,
so I do not feel sorry for Carson Wentz
because he has not played well enough
to keep his job.
Jalen Hertz may make you marginally better in the short term
because he's a mobile guy,
more of a crisis manager.
And to be honest,
you know, he made some nice throws yesterday.
He looks like he throws a touch ball well, okay?
He throws a touch ball well.
He got out of some issues with his legs.
the Boston Scott holding penalty killed him that one drive.
But you also have to take things with a grain of salt.
You know, you're getting ready to play Carson Wentz.
All of a sudden, you have Jalen Hertz.
And the first drive that we're all owing and on about is these guys are in prevent defense.
Okay.
If Carson's racking those yards up, you're saying garbage time.
Okay.
They tightened up on the next couple possessions.
You see a sack.
You see a bad pick.
You see all the things that you've seen with Carson.
The only difference is you've got a guy who's more mobile.
and probably right now is not mentally in shambles,
although I feel sorry for that kid
because by all accounts, he's an awesome dude.
I love watching him in Oklahoma.
I think he's got a future in a league, hopefully.
But this is just, who wants to be in this situation?
I mean, this is a disservice to this kid to be in this situation.
And, you know, maybe in the short term, he will be better off
because I bet they try to run the ball more.
I bet they try to do some simple stuff more with a young kid.
But now you better commit, okay?
I have no idea who's making the calls on the quarterback of the future, okay?
But Doug has been given no assurance on his future.
So you have to assume that this is at the very least a group decision.
At the very least.
And the group has selected Jalen Hertz in the second round.
The group risked mind fucking the guy you just paid.
And don't tell me Aaron Rogers is okay.
Aaron Rogers is a fucking robot, dude.
if Aaron Rogers was,
Aaron Rogers is the exception, not the rule.
And I hate when these former players are all,
that I know were,
we're just mentally weak
at different junctures.
We all have our moments with confidence
and that sort of thing.
None of us are bulletproof mentally.
But it's so easy to sit at a desk and be like,
hey, crater the roster,
draft the quarterback in the second,
right after you pay a guy
who looks at a status.
you have Nick Foles outside the stadium every week.
That shouldn't affect you at all.
Please, dude.
I'm one of the most mentally tough players you could ever meet.
And a coach will tell you, depending on if a coach likes me or not, I'm sure he'd tell you that.
But I know I am.
Okay.
That shit would affect me.
So you risk mine fucking the guy you just paid by drafting him in the second round.
The only way you do that is if you know he's really good.
if you know he's really good or if your team's so good that you don't need anybody else.
So if the offense doesn't look better with Jalen Hertz over the next month,
you own that from a schematic and talent standpoint.
I don't want to hear, well, he's a second rounder.
He had no preseason.
No one else had any preseason.
Rookie quarterbacks have exceeded expectations all over the league.
If you go back to Carson, you're worried that Hertz might prove it's not just the
quarterback, which we know might be true. I don't know. I'm trying to be fair to Doug. I'm trying to be
fair to the people upstairs. I love Doug Peterson, man. Love him. But, you know, like, the Eagles made
decisions on me walking out the door as a player. I'm not going to sit here as a podcaster and
bite my tongue on. They're just not getting it done as a group. So you've made the decision.
You burn the ships and you ride Jalen Hertz and you find out if you were right about the second
rounder. Because if you weren't, either you're bad at personnel or your scheme's not right.
Don't backtrack now, a guy you've already mind fucked and then tried them out against the Saints
and some of these teams you're playing up, playing soon here. You made your decision. I respect the
decision. It's probably the right decision this juncture. But I think Doug and Carson are done.
That's just my two cents. I don't know anything. Nobody told me anything. I'm just using my brain.
plays well. He proves it was Carson. Your options are having the most expensive assistant
coaching football or get something for him. Indy's a sexy pick and I love it. The math seems really
stacked against getting a deal done or a trade done or that sort of thing. I think the Eagles
would have to eat like 16 of dead cap a year for two years. And I know nothing about the San Francisco
Cap situation, but I would love to see Kyle Shanahan write the ship with Carson Wentz. And this is me
maybe being a homer as far as like guys that I play with or people that I believe.
leave in, you know, having a second chance somewhere else.
But I don't think if, you know, like you can't keep both of them after this year after
what just transpired.
Either it's either it's the coach or it's the quarterback.
You can't run this back in 21 with the same pieces and be like, all right, we'll try
again.
You remember last year where we bench you for a month?
This is it.
The Rubicon has been crossed.
If the struggles continue from everything I'm reading in Philly, Doug may be in
trouble. Again, you can't keep both. There's now no situation where both can be there in 21,
in my opinion, other than just hanging on to him as a high paid backup. I don't have a side in this
fight. I love the coach as much I love Carson. Like, these are people I know. So, I mean,
it just fucking sucks to have to speak on this, but I'm just telling you, my hope for Carson is that
he's traded. That's my hope for Carson. Listen, I would love to see the Eagles play well over the next
month, I would love to see Jalen Hertz get an opportunity with full week of practice and look
better and better as the year goes on. I know it's unfair to ask for this kid to ask for this kid
to give you the world right off the bench cold, but he's got to give you something better,
but we know it's not just about the quarterback in Carson Wentz. I do believe that if Carson
gets a prove-it deal of this sort of thing, you're going to see that he's not the guy he is this
year. And what makes it complicated is the personnel is terrible. The team's been
snake bit, the scheme could be better, and Carson's playing bad. So you're trying to do this process
of elimination thing. Well, I guess here's the only valuable opportunity you have to, on an equal
playing field, evaluate Jalen Hertz and Carson Wentz. And really at this point, it's just Jalen Hertz or
somebody that's not in the building if the same staff is going to be back next year. Does that make
sense to you guys, man? It's, there's a lot at play here in Philly. And this is why I said I might not want to be,
you know, a Philadelphia Eagle right now
because there's so much uncertainty when it comes to the future.
It sucks.
And, you know, again, Hertz did some good things yesterday.
He's going to have to do a lot of good things the next month
to prove that he's a quarterback of the future.
And if he doesn't, I mean, it's just, it's confusing, man.
It really is.
There's a litany of issues in Philly right now.
And Slay, I tweeted.
yesterday something about if you name search sleigh people are so fickle man Twitter fans are so
fickle I've read the word bum and piece of shit and you know what like just this guy sucks
all this stuff all yesterday he's banged up he's playing against two the top three receivers in a
league in the last six days and some of these throws he's right there in the pocket he just can't
make the play the better players are making the play okay I don't think any
when you signed Darius Slay
would have thought, oh, he's better than Metcalf.
He's better than Devante Adams.
He is a really good player.
And right now, the last two weeks,
he's been losing battles to players that are better.
And my point was stop being so disrespectful
and using words like bum and being so simple.
If you're mad at the haul it took to get him,
go yell at Howie.
He's a really good player playing his ass off on a terrible team.
And if you made him disappear,
that defense is a lot worse right now.
So all I'm saying is, you know,
it's just so easy for ball watchers
to just crush a corner,
the toughest position in football.
And yeah, you paid a lot to go get them.
Take that up with Howie.
I know that, you know,
Byron Jones was out there
and it wouldn't have needed,
you wouldn't need to give up any capital
to get him.
But listen, I just, I don't appreciate it.
I got kind of into it,
not into it,
but I just,
I heard a lot of people's complaints
about my tweet, which was that, oh, he's been awful.
And, you know, we paid a guy to be the number one.
He's not shutting down number one people.
Okay.
He's had a bad 10 days, man.
And also, don't hold that against the player for being a really good player,
which he's been his entire career.
Bad two games.
I'm glad he's in Philly.
Maybe the hall was a little much, but I'm glad he's in Philly.
You had to do something now to write that, you know, to rectify, you know,
that situation.
the secondary and they did something.
And the corner is, you know, Darius Slay is far from the problem on this team.
What happened out there, Dada?
What happened at, okay?
The Sincu fight.
B-Flow is about that action, okay?
Remember, he made it really far in our coaches, uh, fighting tournament.
Did he not?
He was in like the final four.
B-Flow Taylor fight would go like Logan Paul and Nate Robinson for.
sure. I don't even, it wouldn't last that long. By the way, the Logan Paul thing with
Floyd Mayweather, celebrity death match is, it's like, it's a real thing now. Remember the
claymation show? Some of you older folks might remember from the 90s MTV or maybe as early
2000s. I would love, maybe not without the dying, like celebrity death match, like just
random celebrities fighting each other. I like where we're going with this. I love B-Flow. I'm
really happy for them. This is a good football team. The way ahead of schedule. They're doing all this
defensively without like a single game wrecker. Also what would impress me about them yesterday is they
responded in the second half. They were awful the first half, two looked shaky. They had like
three penalties in a row to start a 10 minute drive. Zavian Howard and Boyd get ejected.
Zavian saves three points, really. It was the most bizarre thing in the world. Cincinnati's been
holding the ball for as I said like an eternity. They're in the high red and ball goes,
a play goes out of bounds and Howard throws the first punch basically and Boyd gets caught.
So you get a flag on Boyd, you get no flag on Howard, they go to review and they throw both
them out.
The way that happens is they can't review and then throw a personal foul flag.
They can only review and eject people to see if they threw a punch.
They both got ejected.
It's kind of a weak skirmish to throw people out over, but Zavian saved three points with that
ejection.
So Spinzone, good penalty.
because he baited Boyd into a 15-yarder and the kick was missed.
They also had a big drop, backed up that probably goes for 100 in touchdown.
And they came out and played great in the second half, too.
It looked comfortable immediately.
Good coaches, good coordinators that make adjustments.
Impressive.
All things are trending up in Miami.
I don't think this is Fool's Gold as far as the long haul is concerned.
I don't know who they are in the playoffs.
But they're not a team I'm excited about playing.
And you get Gaskins back.
He went for like 90 yesterday.
They couldn't get the run game going all year.
Good for them.
So what's it like being a ghost?
Ghost are dead.
I'm very much alive.
Hollow man.
Dan Bailey, man, of the Minnesota Vikings.
Three misses.
What is it with Vikings kickers?
Three misses.
As I mentioned earlier, I'm praying to the porcelain gods as I watched the third one.
And a little background here is I have the Vikings
minus three and a half on the alternate line,
which is like basically the line to this game was like 11.
It's funny, I gave out the Vikings straight up,
and I didn't have the balls to pick them
because I was kind of worried that the Vikings might go off
and run the ball up their ass.
I thought maybe the Vikings win by about a touchdown,
and I felt safer about, you know,
playing the alternate line,
which is minus 285 at three and a half points.
So for the people out there don't know gambling,
it's a lot of risk to say the Vikings are going to win by four points.
And to get to the point where I'm puking into a toilet watching Dan Bailey miss a kick,
and actually I'm happy about it at the end of the game, you had a ricochet touchdown from the Jaguars.
Chanel caught a ball that was like it deflected off somebody's helmet.
Great catch.
They go down 7-0.
You had a cook fumble.
And then when I needed it, finally, the Vikings make a mistake that serves me well because if they hit this kick, they win by three.
I lose my money.
So I'm thinking to myself, yes, finally they make a mistake that serves me well.
We got overtime.
I could still, they're definitely going to try to score a touchdown, right?
Because they're not going to try to kick a fourth kick in overtime.
They're going to go to the distance, score a touchdown.
I'm going to win this bet that could change my whole day.
No, what happened was they go on this epic drive.
They're inside the five, first and goal.
They get bottled up, bottled up.
It gets like third down and they get a penalty on the one yard line.
false start they're about to sneak it in i win my money instead who trots out on third and five
from the five dan fucking bailey okay and that bled 20 minutes in the four o'clock game four o'clock games
i mean i'm watching jacksonville minnesota for 20 minutes and there are good football games on
also an interesting thing that developed and as we predicted around four would be developing is
The Jets, the Jets have sunshine in their back pocket.
Okay.
They've got sunshine in their pocket.
There's a song there.
That's a song of my kids like.
My kids like Bruno Mars a lot.
And we predicted this.
Okay, the Jets, they do what they're supposed to do.
They lose.
They got Trevor Lawrence.
That's presuming they really like Trevor Lawrence.
Maybe they're like Justin Fields.
For a second, you're thinking of the Jets and possibly the Jags somehow are going
to get a win the same day.
The Jags soon after the Jets.
And I explained this last week.
They're playing for a tiebreaker on Sunday.
If the Jets won the game and the Jags were sitting there in overtime thinking about what they have to do.
If you're up in the tank office looking down, mashing the buttons, if I'm the Jags, I'm thinking, you know, I love Trevor Lawrence.
I'm thinking tank at that point because if both teams have one win on the season, the tie break goes to the team with the easier record because it's better to be bad, right?
So if you have one win against the easier strength to schedule, sorry, strength of schedule, if you go one win against the
the worst strength of schedule.
You are a worst football team.
The Jets have the tougher schedule.
They're sitting there.
Jets possibly having won a football game.
And the Jags are saying,
do we really want to win this game?
We want to just deal with this tiebreaker and get sunshine.
That's what was happening around 4 o'clock.
So even bad games in the NFL are always exciting.
There's always a reason.
Both teams found a way to lose.
So we're good.
Jets are still good.
And the Jags are good for not having being completely embarrassed.
Can you imagine we look back at this weekend and if Trevor Lawrence is the type of player we think he was going to be, had the Jets won that game and the Jags found away in overtime?
Can you imagine looking back and saying the Jags played themselves out of the first pick in overtime?
Knowing damn well, the Jets had just given them a gift.
If I'm Trevor, somebody asked me this yesterday, I wanted to New York.
I've said it before.
I believe in the GM.
I believe in Joe Douglas.
Gase is going to be gone.
only thing that would scare me would be the quality of that division.
And it's interesting to say that about the AFC East at this juncture for 20 years.
It was kind of like that's a pretty shitty division, 1 through 2 through 4.
I want to go there because of the money.
You make money off the field.
I don't know if Jacksonville is going to be a Jacksonville team forever.
Maybe Trevor Lawrence doesn't like tall buildings or a lot of money off the field.
But that's where I'd probably want to go.
And they got a ton of draft picks coming up.
The Raiders on the other end of that thing, how about Henry Ruggs?
A lot of mistakes yesterday.
He's been much maligned.
This was way more of a Jets loss than the Raiders win, in my opinion.
Although the Raiders deserve credit, not an easy spot for them.
You had the two East Coast trips.
I mentioned that.
34 to 3.3 they lost last year against the Jets.
Self-fulfilling prophecy can be big in a league, right?
Where you say, this is a trap game, this is a trap game, this is a trap game.
And then players start to believe it.
It's the first thing that happens.
You think that on a trap game Sunday, players haven't been.
been hearing about trap games all week.
If I were a coach and I was playing a team that was shitty, I would make it about us.
I'm not going to worry about this being a trap game because players can hear stuff so much
sometimes that they start to play it like it's a trap game.
They play tight.
And the rate of deserve credit because they were in that situation where it looked like for
the second year in the row, they were going to go to New York and lose.
And this one would have been way worse because although last year they were six and whatever
at the time late in the season,
above 500 surprise team.
They didn't garner the national respect they have this year.
And so this would have been crushing.
But really,
what's the difference?
Isn't that funny?
If the Raiders lost that game yesterday,
we would bury them under the Las Vegas strip.
We would bury them with Jimmy Hoffa,
if that's where he is.
Also,
you ever think about how much is buried out in that desert?
It's creepy.
But you would bury them in the desert.
They did lose the game, right?
They basically lost the game.
everybody said like all Greg Williams had to do is not match zero at the end of the game and they lose the game.
Really, they lost the game in the red zone, but they found a way to win it.
And sometimes, you know, the other team will lose the football game and you don't have to worry about winning it.
I know I'm bordering on like a Trent Dilfer thing right now, but that was more of a Jets lost than a Raiders win.
And the Raiders can take a ton of victory laps around that abandoned indoor ski resort up there.
if anybody's been up there outside the stadium,
that thing looks like a building for my own legend.
That's if they kept it up.
There's no like weeds growing on the side.
But I just remember every time we played there,
that fucking building was just bizarre.
It was like there was nothing.
On a Raiders note,
Ferrell had a nice day yesterday for Las Vegas.
I just want to share this anecdote
because I know people are saying the B word
and their question is where he was picked.
And also, you know,
his upside. He's in his second year. I think he just had two of his first sacks of the season.
I think he had two yesterday. They got him rushing inside. You know, it's the, you know, you draft a guy in the
first round, and then Max Crosby becomes your actual stud, you know, edge rusher. His development's
been slower than you want, but I'll just say this. In my second year, I didn't have a sack for
the first half of the season. It was one of the most trying times of my adult life.
There was definitely the most trying time of my adult life.
I was rock bottom mentally and went to Detroit, maybe the ninth week of the season,
and I was playing terrible. They had me rushing on the right and I was so shitty on the right.
And I'm just, Matt Stafford's holding the ball for like eight seconds by the goal lines.
It's one of the worst sacks in my career. It was just pathetic. And I run the whole hoop
somebody misses him. I think Cliff Ryan, who's a dear friend of mine, missed a sack.
And I clean up the garbage and the tackle at that point. I think Jeff Bacchus was his name.
I felt bad for him because I was like, I know he thinks he's just blocking my ass off and I suck.
All it took was that sack for me to get off that kind of baseball player slump. And the rest of the season, I think I had five sacks.
So, you know, you do that for two halves of season. You're a double-digy guy.
the next four years, you know, I go off and I end up with a bunch of my career and I have a
nice career, man. I have a really good career. So I would say that to say like this furl kid,
I do feel for him. I also think sometimes it just takes, you know, that play to get out of the
slump and build some momentum, some confidence. And also my second year, I was rushing inside sometimes.
Spags didn't like me. Spaggs wanted me out of there. So hang in there, dude.
You're going to be just fine.
You know, just stay working at it is what I would tell a young player who's slumping in that column.
But good win for the Raiders.
Now the call, Greg Williams got the axe this morning.
Listen, Greg Williams was not tanking.
If you know Greg Williams, all he would talk about is that when he's pissed off, he just mash a zero.
Okay.
That's his thing.
And one thing I appreciate about Greg is he knows who he is.
And one thing he's not is a tanker.
I mean, he would probably rather jump off.
a bridge than tank.
And I appreciate that Greg is who he is, and that was a bad call.
It was just an awful call.
The pressure paid off down the red zone.
I just remember thinking, like, when Vegas was trying to go into score,
you know, my goodness, Greg must be pissed off and is working.
But in that situation, you don't do that.
And it costs him his job, which is another thing.
Like, people talking about tanking,
why would a coach
is probably going to get fired a tank
in the interest of the franchise?
It makes no sense to me.
I feel bad for the Jets players.
If you're under contract for a bit,
the big picture will round into form, though.
I said that earlier.
I believe in the guy upstairs.
I believe in Joe Douglas.
And so just a bad way to end that game.
I don't think you'll be forgetting that for a while
if you're a Jets fan,
but maybe you look back and you smile thinking about that game.
But it's a call that was,
was bad enough that, you know, a respected player, you know, spoke out on it.
And I also thought while I watched that press conference is like one thing I like about Greg
Williams is had he had his job this morning and him and that safety had a conversation,
I bet you it would have gone just fine.
Greg can dish it and he can take it too.
So I know some people hate Greg.
I don't.
I'm not going to dump on him.
Terrible call.
Got him fired.
Teams bad.
He wasn't tanking.
And, you know, like to make matters worse.
Nellie Aguilar was open the play before.
So it felt like the equivalent of Nick Nolte defiantly burning the boosters at the end of blue chips and doing the right thing.
That's what it would have felt like to me if the players had won.
But if there's anybody in that building that's thinking about tanking, if it's the owner that's rooting against the team or that sort of thing, like there's just such a disconnect between the players and somebody who's pulling the strings from the top, nobody out there was trying to lose that.
football game. Okay. And Donald might be the least maligned high pick QB that has to,
that has to leave of all time. Like they know the deal there. Fans know the deal. Like he's going
to get so much leeway. He's been such a dumpster fire. Let's do STL Memorial and Game Ball
and get out of here. The, well, the Frank Clark Memorial Award, the Love of the Game Award,
sponsored by the St. Louis Rams. That's Matt Stafford. Okay. I would love to do a, he bought out
yesterday, by the way, I want to do a helicopter extraction and get Matt Stafford to fuck out of Detroit.
Or maybe a helicopter lands and Eric B. Enemy walks off.
Speaking of that, Ron Wood, who I believe is the president of the team, says that, quote,
we will follow the Rooney Rule not just in spirit, but beyond that as we search for new candidates.
So, I mean, take that for what you will.
Stafford
Stafford's contract is up
after 2022.
He's 33 years old this year.
Can he be moved?
I think he can.
Four coordinators, this will be his third GM.
I would love to see him as a Patriot,
but the time is running out for that.
I've been saying this for a couple years now.
The time for that is running out.
He's going to be getting up there in years,
but he's got less mileage
relative to his style of football than a Cam Newton.
And he'd be 43 million over two years.
I read an NESN article that Stafford Matt,
Patricia, that is, didn't hit it off because Matt yells a lot, etc.
I don't think, you know, they were worried about that Patriots culture.
He just got a taste of Mattie P.
Why would he want to go to New England?
For one, that doesn't matter because Matt and Bill are different.
Josh McDaniels is different.
Everybody's different, okay?
and also, you know, the guy's been playing in Detroit for a long time.
You think he's going to fucking reject that helicopter extraction because they don't smile a lot in New England?
Get the fuck out of here.
They don't smile much in Detroit either.
This was an energized day for the Lions, you know, players spoke out like loudly and comfortably about how much more fun they had today.
And like, I just think that the situation got toxic there.
And Mattie P's my guy and everything, but it just wasn't working out.
And from everything I heard, he was just trying to be kind of authoritarian.
And, you know, you can't just do that over and over again.
And when the team's losing, continuing to do the same thing is not going to get you a different result, right?
That's the definition of insanity.
And for the players, you knew because you saw a couple weeks ago, Bill O'Brien left,
and they came out and they were energized and they bawled out.
and they won.
The Lions, beating the Bears, it's a really good sign because the Bears and Mitch Chubisky,
funny enough, have kind of had their number.
And defensively, they did give up a lot of yardage and a lot of points,
but this was a big win for the Lions because they think they're still in it.
And Darrell Bevel is one and O as an interim coach.
Game ball.
Baker's biggest win.
It's got to be Baker Mayfield.
Next gen staff, Baker ran like 237 yards, high stepping.
yesterday.
Like literally,
it was all over the field,
just doing high knees.
My favorite play of the game
might have been that reverse pass.
And it was a great catch by him.
That's one thing he does better than Tom Brady.
Okay, that was a great catch.
But it's third and two there.
And there's a big difference between 6-0 and 10-0
and that's the situation they were in.
They were up 3-0.
And, you know, the first possession,
they didn't get points or they didn't get 7 in the red zone.
this is, if he doesn't catch this ball, it's probably 6-0.
And I think this game turns out a lot differently.
He hits Higgins in the corner on 3rd and 7, a great throw after that catch,
and then Landry for the touchdown.
And what do we see on the loop last week?
Those throws in the red zone, okay?
The first possession I mentioned it, they come up empty in the red zone,
just kick a field goal, but it's not Baker's fault.
People Jones drops a ball that Baker puts on the money that would be a touchdown.
And then Higgins has a penalty on 3rd and 5.
So immediately, like, they don't come up with points, but you're like, this is going to be a different day for Baker.
I mean, that was a nice toss.
And because he got that Philly special look and play on the sideline, converted the third and seven in the corner,
they were able to really take control of that football game.
And Cleveland's had some bad weather for a month straight.
So you couldn't even run your offense with some of that wind.
And I know that we're talking about, well, it's going to be December and January here.
It already is.
And there's going to be bad weather.
but this was an unseasonably
frequent batch of windy weather
that they've had to deal with the last month
and you can't even run your offense the same.
So I'll give them that.
Maybe they're heating back up.
But the big thing is that this is best win, right?
They beat a good team.
This is what we've been waiting for them to do.
And I think Tennessee is a good team,
although their defense might be a deal breaker
for them as far as contending for a championship
because they don't really have a strength.
Some of these other teams,
you can lean on a strength defensively.
Tennessee doesn't have a strength defensively.
All I see are relative weaknesses.
They've struggled to replace Logan Ryan.
We'll see how the trade for Desmond King shakes out when it's all said and done.
It was a bust on Clowny.
Vic Beasley.
They just haven't had it.
Jeffrey Simmons is not enough.
And I love Jeffrey Simmons, but it's not enough.
And this was as big an ass kicking of a competent football as I've seen this year,
Tennessee and Buffalo, ironically, it's not that bad.
I mean, Tennessee was down, I want to say, no, Buffalo was down.
I want to say 2110 at the half.
I mean, this was just, this was otherworldly.
The biggest difference between the team that lost 4313 last year in the opening,
and that's the Browns to the Titans, they lost in the first game of the season,
4313, is that Stefansky is good.
He's a really good coach.
You know, look at some of the guys that got open.
and I'm not taking anything away from Baker.
Higgins open for a chunk right off the bat, the first possession,
confidence builder, you know, get into their territory.
That's huge.
Move in the pocket.
Big man touchdowns at Kendall Lamb.
You know, the reverse pass I mentioned, People's Jones is open to make it 24-7.
That play action, he's just naked.
All Baker has to do is hit him in stride.
But he did, and that's the key.
How many times we turn on TV on Sunday and say,
fuck that quarterback, just make the open throw.
I think people are unrealistic about quarterbacks in this league.
There are very few that are just ripping dimes every Sunday.
Baker can be a quarterback in this league.
He has to hit his open receivers.
It sounds obvious.
A guy like Kevin Stefansky can hide a lot of your deficiencies.
And Baker has deficiencies.
There are only a couple quarterbacks in league that fit the ball right in tight windows repeatedly.
He doesn't have to be that guy.
He can be a Cleveland Brown for a while, but what he can't do is he can't implode in big situations.
He didn't do that yesterday.
He played a great game.
You know, I said this summer, DeFancy, he was my favorite hire.
He still is.
But Baker did make the throws, as I just mentioned, like the Higgins throw to make a 31-7 and close the door that were just beautiful.
I mean, he really threw the ball well yesterday when he had to.
So I'm not going to hold it against him that people were open.
Great job, Bake.
we said we'd be judging you on this stretch of games.
You get Steelers and Ravens yet to come.
Let's see how he and the Browns have progressed.
Okay.
Remember, the Browns have beaten now two AFC playoff teams.
Okay, I was kind of, you know, the narrative kind of shifts here.
Now, I know it wasn't necessarily the offense.
Indy played poorly against them, but it's a win.
And it's a win against the team that's rounding into form to be a playoff team.
And now they have two AFC playoff wins, essentially under their belt.
You got to go do it in January too.
But look around.
You'd be surprised some of these teams.
Remember Baltimore.
Baltimore is the team that everybody fears and we're finally cooling on them.
But just to go in to show you that these two teams might be two ships passing
in the night.
It's going to be an interesting matchup here coming up.
Because since Baltimore beat up on Cleveland, week one, again, no preseason, none of that stuff.
New coach, I think they won 38 to 3 or something, 38 to 10 maybe.
Baltimore has got one win over a playoff team if it started today, and that's Indy.
So this is going to be such an interesting game from a barometer standpoint.
And for the Titans, man, I do think that defense at this point,
unless they do a Kansas City about face, it's getting late.
It's getting late for you to make that kind of transformation defensively.
it's a lot to ask of that offense. It really is. The one thing I'll say about them is so interesting,
they don't panic when they're down. They just run their fucking offense until the second half.
And I said the same thing about Baltimore, the Baltimore game, and especially the Pittsburgh game.
They just ran their offense. Tennessee, such an interesting team, man. Hard to figure out what their ceiling is this year.
My ceiling is a nap, and I'm going to wake up and watch these games tonight. I'm going to try to get some food in me.
It's kind of unfair when you order raising canes and ends up in the toilet guys.
But the other way, sorry to end this pot on a gross note.
Maybe I'll try again.
Another canyac combo.
Does it count?
Anybody listening here, if you ingest raising canes, an entire caniac combo and everything
goes with it, the grease, the calories, the sodium, all that,
if I have food poisoning from the night before and I do what I did yesterday,
as Dan Bailey was missing that kick.
Does that count?
Like, do I nutritionally own that caniatic combo for better or for worse?
Or is the damage done?
Because I'm considering getting another one tonight, run it back.
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