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Welcome to Greenlight with Chris Long.
I'm Cowboy Reed.
Cowboy.
Today, Chris and Dr. Fax will recap the NFL's Week 13.
We'll talk Monshu Mania, the Lions getting their first win, the Unstoppable Brady-Gronk connection,
Steelers Ravens, Chargers, Bengals, Washington, Las Vegas, and Chris names his top three teams in both the AFC and NFC.
Sit back, relax, and enjoy the show.
Atwater, California.
Like Steve.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, Steve Atwater, Broncos legend.
That's the earliest Reed's ever chimed in on the show.
We have a Steve Atwater football card.
I wish I got it signed by him.
Did I tell you I sat with Steve Atwater at the Super Bowl for a little bit?
Oh, for real?
And he was one of the nicest people I've ever met that was great at something.
I mean, the guy is just a remarkable human being.
You'd be very, kid Reed Dickerson would be very happy to.
know that.
Current Reed Dickerson
would be, is very happy to know
that and is very
jealous. Especially after that
that football game
we just watched, which we'll talk about in a little bit.
Chiefs, five in a row
they're rolling.
Layup line. I'm going to go
highway men
by the highway men.
The highway man. Yeah.
I like how they do.
Outlaw country, Nate. You into that?
I'll get you into westerns.
and outlawed country.
Somebody DM me and was like,
hey man, if you want to give Nate a good Western,
you ever heard of Deadwood?
I was like, yeah, I heard of Deadwood.
So, yeah, Deadwood is where we start,
per some guy in my DMs.
Okay.
Go do Deadwood.
The dialogue's a little hard to follow.
I have to figure out the name,
but I was getting my hair done the other day.
And in the shop,
there was a Black Westernon with Idris Alba.
It's like a newer.
The harder they fall.
It was awesome.
That movie looks so damn good.
I haven't seen it yet.
So I'm going to have to watch it fully through.
It was something where when I sat down, it was already halfway through.
And the entire time, I was glued to the TV.
And the half of the movie I seen, great movie.
Westerns can be awesome.
I thought Morgan Freeman showing up in one in the 90s was incredible.
It was awesome.
Keith Stanfield is a damn good actor, Regina King.
Oh, Regina King's in that.
Yeah, she is fucking good.
Fight scenes, with the, got the pistol work, everything.
Okay.
It was good.
And it's funny.
I thought about you because I'm like, yo, Chris just told me that I should watch a Western.
And I was like, look at this.
You would really like Westerns.
Anyways.
I was a highway man.
Along the coach roads I did ride.
with sword and pistol by my side.
Highway Men is a song by the Highway Men,
which of course consists of Wayland Jennings,
Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, and Chris Christopherson,
four of the greats in music period,
not just Outlaw Country.
And it's a song Kyle and I like to listen to,
and it is Big Kyle's birthday today.
Right now, it's 11.38 p.m. as we sit here and record this pod.
And it's Kyle's birthday.
And he's a Kansas City Chief and they just got to win and hopefully he'll be back soon and healthy.
And Kyle was a cute kid, man.
Fellow Sagittarius.
He was a big cute kid.
And he really, he really did melt my heart as a big brother.
And he still does, even though he could throw me through a window.
He's still a big, cute kid to me.
He tried to throw me through a wall at a bear's practice once.
He really did literally try to throw you through something, didn't he?
Yeah, me.
the indoor facility you and five other people me and Kyle got kicked out of a practice an NFL
professional practice me and your little big brother yeah got kicked out yeah and everyone like
the indoor facility has like windows after we got kicked out we had to walk from the indoor
facility to the main building like a walk of shame and like but we were walking next to each other
like just arguing and kind of laughing and everyone inside
Everyone before they started practice up again, they were just looking.
They probably thought y'all pulled a get kicked out of practice on purpose move,
which was the ultimate vet move that I heard of happening before I never saw it executed,
like to the degree that I heard stories about it.
But evidently, there are a number of guys who have executed the fake fight at practice and get kicked out.
Now, we've had some fights where we were like, fuck it.
Well, my concern was that,
if you get kicked out, you get fined.
Right.
And sometimes that does happen.
But your brother, because he's a great guy,
and he knew it was his fault, he immediately, while we were walking,
he knew that's what I was mad about.
And he was like, dude, if we get fine, like, I'll take care of it.
He goes, I'm sorry, I had a bad day.
I shouldn't have did that to you.
I love him.
Love him to death.
Hey, Kyle, you're the man.
Happy birthday.
I can't wait for you to get back and play football,
foosball for the Kansas City Chiefs.
He went right to George Hallis, didn't he?
Just straighten it out.
Yeah, he did.
Shout out to Hallis Hall.
Yeah, shout out to Hallis Hall.
Oh, man.
Happy birthday, buddy.
Earlier in our live stream, live stream two.
We fucking live stream, Breed.
Yeah, we did.
Fourth quarter,
yeah, read and read,
read and fourth quarter, four p.m.
Read and react.
We will be here every Sunday coming at Macon's,
job security with Reed in the chair right there and we'll be reading and reacting to what we see
on the screen every fourth quarter and we had some great moments today we saw Detroit win a football
game we'll get to that I mean it was incredible we had a high five it was like it was great
we got to do more of that and we will read indeed you got people in the chat room yeah we had a couple
people in the chat room ask us questions hold on a second fucking guy moderates the chat
fucking guy sets up the TVs
fucking guys the talent
next door
you know he's sitting in the chair next to me
I told him I wanted to do a live stream on a whim
at like 140
or 340 or whatever it was
let's just say for the sake argument
there were four TVs set up with all different
games on them and Reed was sitting in the chair
ready to co-host it and moderate the fucking
chat room in 15 minutes
ready to go
you know what I don't like how you guys cut out
me thinking Reed and the producer
Because you guys, yeah, because you guys wanted to be first.
When did we do that?
Yeah, that was in.
Was it in?
Yeah, that was in.
Maybe.
Oh, okay.
Straight.
Okay.
I want to make sure.
Yeah, dude.
So in a weird way, you're like coming at the producers trying to thank the producers.
As only you could.
I will.
Shout out facts.
He gave me a compliment on Twitter for my intro the other day.
How about that?
See that?
I appreciate that.
He did a good job.
Fax is all bought in, bro.
Fax is bought in.
It's midnight.
We're going to bullshit about football for a while.
but you had a question from the chat room.
Hit us up in the chat.
There were a number of questions that people wanted to ask,
have us answer later when we recorded this show.
Garrett T. wanted us to answer our thoughts on an expanded college football playoff scenario.
We're some promise keeping dudes, aren't we read?
That's right.
You know?
By the way, it was funny, like, coming into the weekend that the committee was like,
we talked it over and it turns out Notre Dame,
Notre Dame's fine.
Like we're not going to hold the coach thing.
Barta, like last week, said,
hey, we're going to hold
Brian Kelly going to Baton Rouge against this team.
They basically just got in a boardroom
and watched fucking Marcus Freeman video.
If you don't know,
like, if you don't know how I felt
as a football player,
watching that video,
that is what football is about.
Okay, not everybody has to be like
Brian Kelly.
Okay, like,
you can,
be like Brian Kelly. I'm not going to
get mad and be on my
soapbox on Twitter because of the way Brian
Kelly left. That's business. But
you can also be like Marcus Freeman.
And yes, he's younger.
Yes, he knows the players
well, but you can tell
they gravitate towards him. You can tell that place
is like, really, it means a lot
to these kids. Brian Kelly
did the impossible. He made me
like Notre Dame.
If you'd have told me 12 years ago that
when he signed with Notre Dame that he would make
Notre Dame more likable as a franchise
to me, as a school
of football franchise, I would have said no fucking
way. But all he had to do was leave.
All he had to do
was leave. And when he
left, oh man,
I love the O.C.
I love Marcus Freeman.
I love the strength coach because he used to,
I mean, our boy Bayliss, he got us
so jack. Notre Dame might be my
side team. I have a
college side team. I mean, we got
a higher to make in Virginia. And I,
I'm excited, hoping.
I'm hoping it's, we'll see.
Is it going to be you?
Is the pod in Jeopardy?
That's what, that's what we're here to talk about.
Think about the ratings for the pod.
Last week, I gave my list of demands this week.
There's a job opening.
No, I'm a concerned Virginia fan.
Like every other one, I'm like, hold my breath.
But we got Carla Williams.
I did see the C&O Railroad over at the UVA Football Center this week.
They were putting in a railroad.
Oh, for me?
Yeah, at the facility.
They were putting in a choochoo?
Yep.
Oh, man.
Yeah, they're prepared.
Yeah, you missed it.
It's an inside thing.
But anyways, I had a list of demands.
And one of them was a train in the facility that gets the players to meetings, but like a locomotive.
Oh.
Like one of those kind of like kids' locomotive sets, but for adults, like a legit one.
The mall train.
Kind of the mall train.
Yeah.
Adults can get on there.
Yeah, but looking like a steam engine with a,
caboose and everything and Jerry Capone would ride around on the back like you know shout
of Jerry Capone like your football operations guys making sure things I mean you're you're almost
there like at the end of the day that's just like the Jetsons yeah it is like the Jetsons it's a conveyor
boat also I'll give you this one chick fillet in the facility and a CVS in the facility you know
how many things a day you would buy if you were on my staff in the facility like you would be at
CVS all the time we'd be in meetings like where's nays just in CVS shopping no I would
give you the kicker.
Chick-fil-A is open on Sundays.
No more of this bullshit.
Not in my building.
Okay, buddy.
Unless God can guarantee me 10 wins this season,
we're not taking Sunday off from Chick-fil-A.
We'll see how that goes, the higher that's coming up,
and I'm sure Carla's going to head out of the park because she's awesome.
Okay.
Back to Garrett T's college football.
He was talking about expanding the playoffs, this guy.
He was wondering if we should expand the playoffs.
He said Ohio State and Notre Dame,
They get in, it's like printing money for the NCAA.
Yeah, I mean, like that would be highly profitable,
but I don't think every year it's going to be Ohio State and Notre Dame,
like hallmark programs like that on the outside looking in.
But I do think they should expand this thing.
Why not?
It's more football.
Players have freedom to do what they want to do now.
Players are sitting out of bowl games.
Nobody's going to feel held hostage at this point.
I don't mind another round to this thing.
Like, here's the thing.
this weekend, the kicker is Bama, man, and Bama ruining college football again.
Like, there was a shot of them up like two scores early in the game and all their great
wide receivers were sitting on the bench talking to each other.
Bama is the college Patriots.
Yeah, and there was a moment where it just hit me that I'm like, they're the Patriots.
Like, what are you guys thinking?
What is everyone thinking?
Like, it's one of those, they're one of those teams that it's more of the hope.
Everyone's just like hoping and wishing
That like like this is going to be the year that like it's it's gonna
Guess what and guess what it's not the year and as they were panning out of like a
A shot of Metchie I was like God damn it dude
And they're gonna beat the breaks off Cincinnati
Dude I know it's gonna be ugly
It's gonna be ugly Nick Saban's gonna be doing pull-ups
Okay
Well he said he ate the rat poison
Yeah and it tasted good and it tasted good
psychotic.
Tasted yummy.
Yummy.
That's the,
yeah, that's the key word.
Grocer.
Nick Saban is ruining
college football
by being too good.
And here's the deal.
All like I was talking to Big Cat about this and we were talking about like he's,
all he's been saying for two months is that they're not good.
And he was playing possum.
They are good.
And here's what's fucked up.
We can't even get Georgia and Bama to play the first round.
We're probably going to get a Georgia and Bama rematch in the national championship.
And I don't know about you.
but I don't trust Georgia anymore.
Nope.
Okay?
Nope.
I just don't.
Like, by the laws of gravity and nature,
they'll probably beat them the second time.
But I won't put money on them.
Like, listen.
Not at that quarterback to play.
If he plays like he did,
they're going to win it again.
You can be as physical as you want.
You can be as good up front as you want.
But if you've got guys like Bama,
that you can get them the ball in the flat to go 40 yards,
or you can take the top off the defense for 40 yards.
Like, that's scary.
I don't want to see that again in the national championship.
And they played tough, but Alabama just showed us that they're Alabama.
Aidan Hutchinson is trying to, he's trying to go number one or something.
I'm not saying I would necessarily, like, maybe somewhere in the top five for sure.
But like, my man's trying to go number one.
I mean, he was dogging people out there in Michigan.
Aidan Hutchinson was great.
and Michigan kicked the dog shit out of Iowa.
I should have saw it coming.
Iowa is terrible.
Listen, the most heartbreaking,
ridiculous play of the weekend
is Oklahoma State.
Damn near getting back in it.
I mean, that was a physical, intense football game.
That was like a very, like, Texas and Oklahoma people,
a lot of people care about this game.
A lot's riding on the line,
atmosphere football game in Jerry's world.
And Homeboy is running to the,
pile on and I'm thinking he's got the edge right but this dude for Baylor has like a movie tackle
I mean he didn't think even for a millisecond about the Oklahoma State cat cutting it back and to run
full speed like that directly at the sideline is a petrifying feeling and he just he needed all 21
miles per hour or however the fuck fast this guy can get up to to meet him and make the stop and he
made it. Incredible. Incredible. Game of inches. Also, the fake slide. Yeah.
By, wait, is by Pickett. Kenny Pickett, who by the way the Steelers should draft. I'm totally
jumping out of the gym for that. I don't even know if it makes sense. And he single-handedly
ruined my future bet of Wake Forest winning the ACCC. Yeah, but more so he just said a really
dangerous precedent. No, very dangerous. I mean, that's important to me, but for, for
defenders everywhere.
This is the thing that we're all watching and we're saying, okay?
When this happened, I explained to my girlfriend, we're watching this game and I told
suck up.
No, listen, she was like, why is that a bad play?
And I said, well, here's the trickle down from this play.
The fact that he did that fake spike, anytime that quarterback or quarterbacks are about
to slide, there are more, they are more susceptible of defenders.
taking their head off. Yeah, just
decapitating them. Because
now as a defender, I can
say, I've seen footage
of a quarterback, fake a slide,
and the refs allowed
it, and scored a
60-yard touchdown off of it.
No, it's a bad precedent.
They need to fix that. They need to huddle up on
that. I don't think anybody ever thought of that,
and can he pick it, like, turns out he has swag.
At the end of the play, I'm like,
oh, my God, dude, this guy is going to
go number one overall. And then the
And then guys are going to try to kill him for doing that.
And then to hear the correspondent, they call the referee correspondent and you're watching
the game.
And they clearly say that the play should have been called dead as soon as he had did that.
It just makes it worse.
I didn't even know there was a rule for that.
So it's good.
We have safeguards.
But ACC refs, man.
Oh, and not to mention, I mean, we talked about the Bama game before we got to the pros.
Oh, yeah.
Bryce Young.
He's a gamer.
Oh, my God.
Dude, I think he won the Heisman when he threw the ball.
over the ref's head and the ref had to duck and like he matrix that throw in there.
But I'm more impressed on his scrambling skills and him and him running because he doesn't
look like he's moving fast.
Oh, he's moving fast.
He is covering a lot, a lot of ground and he's very poised.
Like I think in college you see a lot of guys just not seem like they're poised and you hear
about playing for a coach like Nick Saban.
I just think all around
he's going to be a great player
at the next level. I don't know what it is. I don't know what Nick Saban's
doing to find these kids, but they're actually
all like mentally on top of the game.
On Saturday, Alabama
became the first university to
beat a top five team in college football and college basketball
after taking down Georgia in the
SEC championship game and then the
men's basketball team beat Gonzaga.
Number three Gonzaga. Gonzaga lost, huh?
Lost to an SEC team.
That's right.
It shows you how much fucking
college basketball I was watching this weekend, but didn't have that on my bingo card.
By the way, an update on the Waffle House. I'm probably going.
Nate, you know, we do Thursday night time machine.
You know, the loser has to go to the Waffle House.
Yep.
We spent time there, so of course you know.
But I was down bad, like already.
Like, it was late early for me.
And Thursday, I thought I was eliminated.
Like, I found out pretty much that I was out of it.
read what the tally was what eight two and four so i'm doing the math we're all doing the math in
real time and realize that i'm going back and it's week 13 or whatever it is it just feels early
to know that you're going to the waffle house for 24 hours and making goes oh no no no don't
forget like almost taunting me i don't like i don't know why he reminded me this but he if you
hit the score in the nose of the thursday night game you get three points oh and i'll be damned
if I didn't hit the score in the nose.
2717.
Dallas 2717.
Now this is the first week that I remembered
that we had this rule.
So I want to petition
that because every time
I've tried to hit the score on the nose,
I hit the score on the nose.
Really? Yeah.
Last week, the first week I knew that
it was worth anything more than one point.
I see what you're saying.
Yeah, so from here on out,
I'm only hitting the score in the nose
and Macon's going back.
but 2717 shout out to me so now you're down only a game it's 8 5 and 4 is the count so i got to win
out right that's the math wait 8 5 wait 8 5 and 4 4 draws where we're both on the wrong side yeah so
read how many more thursday night games 3 3 so i got three more chances i'm down 3 i got to win out
and i got a chance to send makin to the waffle house which is what everybody wants so if anybody has
any inside information about these NFL games on Thursday nights, just tell me.
I would camp outside the Waffle House and just tap on the glass if Makin was in there.
And by the way, this year, Cowboy, your project, because I know Makin doesn't listen to
the pod, we can talk about all this out in the open here.
We need to find the most dope, like, awesome Waffle House in the country and do a thing.
Like, throw a party.
Maybe there's one that's like indoor, outdoor.
That would be nice.
awesome Waffle House is not a problem.
Let's find one. I don't care if it's in
South Beach, whatever. And by the way,
there's a rumor, shout out to
our Dan Levittart contingency,
that there's a billionaire
donor down there, broke today.
And he's got the wild
idea that
he's going to, or he should
fund a
stadium in Coral Gables,
a 50,000 seat stadium
in Coral Gables, as if Miami
needs anything.
when it comes to facilities.
They're set there, sir.
No need to fund that stadium.
Save your hard-earned money.
I was told by a bunch of people this week,
and some of them were yelling,
and more so it was Barrett Jones was getting yelled out,
which I felt bad about because I love Barrett, bro.
I was told the facilities are set.
They're good with the stadium in Miami Gardens
and 60 miles away,
Coral Gables practice facility.
and this guy would be a Gibroni if he funded this stadium
because things are perfect at Miami when it comes to facilities.
So with the Cowboys winning,
they create a little distance, much needed,
with two surging, if you call it that,
surging NFC's teams.
Well, one of them's on a legitimate win streak.
And they're one of the NFC's elite,
and we're looking at the NFC here.
There are two teams, three teams really,
that I think are at the top
that everybody's going to be eyeing down the stretch.
Tampa, Arizona, Green Bay, in any order you put them.
And then I'd probably put the Cowboys right outside those guys.
Tampa's got a pretty easy schedule down the stretch.
So Arizona needed to start winning football games.
And they're at this funny kind of crossroads where, you know, last year,
everybody knows by now Kyler got hurt.
You know, he didn't miss any time, but he had an upper body injury.
And it changed the way they operated as an offense.
they had trouble moving the ball.
They had trouble, he had trouble
tucking it and running it,
and they had trouble feeling confident
in him doing that,
and down the stretch,
they kind of tanked a little bit.
And if you remember,
they were pretty hot early in the year.
This year,
same kind of trajectory for Kyler,
although it's a lower body injury.
Today he came back.
And so today was a big deal for a few reasons.
Number one, you get him back,
you get D-hot back,
but you also get to see what he looks.
looks like and you get to see how confident they are in where he is physically.
This is Cliff Kingsbury's best work, right?
Part of that is managing whatever the injury was to Kyler Murray and not bringing him back
too soon.
And today I gotta say, it was a good sign.
I mean like what I saw, it was a good sign.
I mean, first off, you wake up today, the forecast is cold, it's rainy.
If you're coming off an ankle injury and you want to be right.
and it's been a couple months since you're at full speed.
Like, that's not what you want to see when you look outside.
And on top of it, Soldier Field.
Trust me.
The turf's not great.
Listen to a guy who tore his ACL on that side.
Sticky.
Sticky, sticky, sticky side.
It is not a place that you probably feel confident in your footing, all that stuff.
You have to worry about what kind of cleats you're going to wear, all the different.
Yeah.
I remember Greg Olson and I like when he was in Chicago and you know like we locked up at
I think it was actually one of their big blocking tight ends but Greg could block too but we we locked up
at the line of scrimmage and I just slid back two yards like my cleats never left in the
I was like what is going on it's 2012 or whatever it is but yeah this is not the surface you want
to come back and it's not the weather but it was important that he came back and you get these
reps and that you show you're confident I mean
It's the runs, not his arm.
He didn't have to throw a bunch.
People were like, yeah, well, they took it easy, 15 throws, whatever.
The weather dictated that, maybe the game plan.
What was important was seeing the confidence in his legs.
And, you know, like, last year, I think it took a month to get up to 10 carries coming off that injury.
Today he had 10 carries.
Third and eight backed up before the half, breaks contain, has the deadleg 58.
I mean, I think it was Roquan Smith, who can really run.
dead legs him
goes straight to the sideline
20 yards right
not a gain of 20 but he covers 20 yards
he doesn't pick up the first down
but it's a little thing that you're like
okay he's confident in this thing you know
and 21 7 and 3rd it's 3rd and 18
he dies 4 yards short of the
the sticks so he shows the confidence
he shows like hey I'm going to be smart about it
I'm going to give myself up short of the sticks
I know the game situation I know they don't need this
and then the backbreaker late in the game.
He's still in there.
It's 3314 after he runs his ball in,
but he does it with his legs.
So obviously they're pretty confident in him.
And the game plan was jump these guys.
Well, I don't know if that was a game plan,
but it worked out that way.
The picks, four picks for Indy Dalton,
right off the bat throws a pick.
Arizona's rolling.
Byron Murphy's coming downhill, hitting people,
and off Komet's hands.
right into Buda Baker's hands.
And this is the funniest part of the game to me.
Buda Baker,
as he's getting ready to get tackled by Andy Dalton,
everybody is thinking,
remember the last time he had a long pick
on the left sideline
that he had a chance to score on?
D.K. Metcalfe runs him down.
And that was all about D.K. being an alien,
not Buddha being slow.
You better believe he wanted to get in the end zone.
And by the way,
he's never scored a touchdown.
And as he's running,
about to get tackled by Andy Dalton,
the guy calling the game's like one of the fastest guys in the NFL.
I'm like, no, he's not.
Okay, let's be realistic here.
Everybody's thinking about the fact that he got hawked last year.
But after they blow that game open, they have a James Connor option.
They get pressure with everybody.
You know, you lose Watt for the season.
Chandler Jones is having a really good year.
But it's not like he's a one-man show.
You get pressure from everybody.
Like seven guys had two pressures.
So four picks, one of which late, like I'm talking about these guys,
getting pressure. One pick late
that damn near sealed the game.
Zach Allen, one-handed screen pick.
The guy in Atlanta got all the attention because he
picked off Tom Brady and scored
a touchdown. This was
a big play in this game and the fourth one,
the fourth pick turned him into 23 points.
So really bad day for Chicago.
You know, more of the same for them.
And for the bag person, the person in the poncho
up in the 400 level that looks
Like they're like fucking hurricane correspondent and they can't find the hole.
They can't find the holes in their poncho.
That win, man.
The windy city.
That's a metaphor for the kind of the washing machine that this franchise has been in.
Like just trying to get some stability here.
It's just been hard.
And I think everybody knows they're staring a reset in the face.
Do we worry about the Cardinals if they have a home game in the playoffs?
Since they're so good on the road,
They're 7 and 0 this year on the road.
You know what? That's funny though, because I mean, they've done a good job.
You talk about on the road, like they've won on the road.
They've won a lot of different ways.
They won with a backup quarterback.
They beat the Niners with McCoy.
They beat the Seahawks with McCoy.
They've blown teams out.
They blew the Titans out.
They blew Rams out.
They blew the Browns out.
They've come back.
They were down two scores against the Vikings.
I was looking at this earlier.
They've won in big spots like Green Bay, and they've won outside in the rain.
Like, this team has really one.
in a lot of different ways.
And Cliff Kingsbury deserves a lot of credit
because he's been the common denominator there.
The team seems very battle tested.
And when it comes down to the end of the season
and some of the things you worry about,
I feel like the Cardinals have been through it already.
And one of your biggest fears is your starting quarterback going down.
But knowing that you have quality wins with your backup,
it's something that it's a little less of a feeling,
like of a scared or
tentative feeling about play calling
about what you're doing because you know
hey worst case scenario like if we have to put coat back in
we have a plan for that it's just buy in dude
you know like it's competency of course but it's also buy in
and when we won with nick in 17
you know Nick is a great player but he also trusted
and we trusted there were great players around him this is a great football team
right like and I'm not saying that in the context of other football
teams in different years but i mean this year they're they're like towards the top of the league if
they're not the best team in the league so this is going to be a thing where hey if kailer gets dinged again
you you've seen that you've won with colt and you have the players to win with him you might be
able to survive in the playoffs for a game without a kiler but you don't want to be there two guys
i want to mention from chicago i'll give out the uh st louis mori award to uh to david montgomery
this dude bawled out today and he's the only guy that you could go to on that office
offense and like being productive being dependable in any weather like quite literally that was him today
and he's up in a year so i don't know what they're thinking pay him don't pay him i know barnwell had that
article where he was talking about a bunch of guys that that are the highest paid running backs this year i
wouldn't pay him if i'm looking at that list but maybe it's important for the next coach to have that guy
um that he can kind of hitch his wagon to a little bit david montgomery has been a real bright spot for
this team. And Robert Quinn is top five in the
league and sacks. How about that?
Top five. How about that? How about that? Where's that
girl now? You're very
online.
Hey,
Tampa Bay took care of business today.
You know, the other active team
in the NFC that's probably the top three for me.
Fake vaccination card
affecting the
outcome of this football game. Not so much. I mean, it probably
affected the way Antonio Brown lists
Tampa Bay Buccaneers came in today,
but they've been without him for six games this year.
So Brady without AB, no big deal.
17 out of 19 first plays, they throw the ball,
which is really disrespectful to the Falcons.
I mean, to the front, to the coverage,
before the half at one point,
and by the way, Tom Brady has never lost to the Falcons.
Before the half at one point,
Tom's interception or touchdown interception ratio
was like 27 to 3.
273 before the screen that was picked off.
So we had a real chance at 283
career maybe
not career
yeah career touchdown interception
ratio against the Falcons
which is incredible that whole thing is getting out of hand
there was an eclipse earlier this year
and I found out about it right after we podcasted
before Thursday night game
it was Patriots
Falcons y'all remember this
you remember there was an eclipse that night
and the eclipse lasted
three hours,
28 minutes.
At this point,
like,
you can't convince me
God likes the Falcons.
You know,
I know that everybody
thinks God has favorite football teams
because we asked God,
can we please win this game?
Like, God's going to choose you.
Well, God's not choosing the Falcons,
dude.
I don't know what it is about the Falcons,
but the eclipse going three hours and 28 minutes
was overkill.
I mean,
that was twisting the knife.
And then today,
I'm like,
damn, are they really going to have this other thing
that,
sports and NFL on Fox are all going to tweet unanimously. It's a fun number. Here's a fun number.
Two and a half seconds for more 16 to 22, 251, three touchdowns. Falcons only hit him four times.
Godwin caught 15 balls, dude. And that's the importance of Chris Godwin. Chris Godwin is a guy that
Tom really trusts. You know how like Tom trust gronk? It's like a different kind of trust.
Like he's a security blanket for him. If Tom had to throw the ball to one of those receivers with the
game on the line, he's going to Godwin.
15 times today.
By the way, speaking of Gronk, 90 touchdowns between Gronk and Brady, second all time behind
Peyton and Marvin.
They have 121.
They won't catch him.
Gronk coming on, well, fuck, never say never.
I thought Bronc was done a while ago.
Grant coming on late, you know, like this year, I feel like he didn't look as healthy
early in the year.
He was dealing with some injuries.
He looks really good right now.
And, you know, Gronk was a known commodity this year, but he's coming on late for them.
and last year they had like late comers in the fall fornett kind of came on late in the fall
this team will improve the d lines improving they're getting more pressure you worry about the
run game i mean cordarro patterson ran through like four tackles on a long run or in the game but
that's cordarral patterson okay so but two sacks for both interior guys today vita vea and doming
and Sue Sue had two on third down.
They were like ranked last in the league or bottom five in the league in third down sacks,
which is a bad predictor for success on defense.
Like,
I said this on Mina Kimes podcast two weeks ago and I feel good about it now.
I said they're going to come on up front.
Like because Mina was talking about they haven't been, you know,
like where is the past rush in some of these situations?
There are slumps.
Sacks come in bunches and I think this is a,
get-well game for them as was last week they won't look back they'll be better up front and the
detackles are picking up the slack only guy i feel bad for here is matt ryan okay i feel bad for
matt ryan he looked good moving in the pocket today we'll see what happens next year you know
what i feel bad for i feel bad for whoever bet the spread because yeah that was fucked up at the end
of the game russell gage dropped a touchdown which would have covered the 10.5 spread
I know, ridiculous.
Crazy.
Ridiculous.
I mean, those are, those are the things you, you slam a door about.
Because especially when you kind of feel like, yeah, we're not going to beat them.
I would kick the door.
But we're not going to, we can cover this spread.
I can be a fan and bet and feel decent about this.
Yeah, if you were a Falcons fan and you were like, oh, we're going to cover.
That was, you've had a bad Sunday.
And I apologize.
We'll stop talking about your team.
Rams, back on track.
question mark. That's what I have in my notes. You should too. No. I mean, they're back on track.
They beat up on the Jags. I'm an idiot. I bet the Jags Taylor, not blaming Taylor, but Taylor
looked confident. I was confident. I gave him out on Friday. I don't know how I did this weekend.
It's been a blur. Stafford, 11 and 16 against the Blitz. He's like a movie character. Crash Davis,
is that his name? No, it's not Crash Davis. It's Jake Taylor. Jake Taylor's the Crash Davis is
Bull Durham. Crash Davis is the OG on the team and the guy's hitting the mascot and also
he's hitting the... Correct. You know, he's also hitting the older lady too. Right? You've seen
Bull Durham? Check that out if you see the Westerns. Major League. That's Jake Taylor. Matt Stafford
reminds me of Jake Taylor. He's like the Grizzle veteran hasn't won before. He's out there in
slow motion just getting blown up. Like when I think about Jake Taylor and that
I'm thinking about him like legging out that last hit and he just it hurts to run and everything's
falling apart like that's Matt Stafford right now but you can't help but respect him I know that he
hasn't been great lately he was better today I mean he he got torpedoed today in the chest as he
blew up his throwing hand on somebody's helmet they took him to the blue tent they were like
is he bleeding out of his ears all right just sending him back out there he's like literally got
buddy Lee stuff going you know love the football
or not, you love the guy. You can see why Sean McVeigh seems to really have fallen for him and
things have leveled out now. And why Cooper Cup is hanging out with him so much. And, you know,
he was filling up the stats sheet. They're back on. They're back on. He had eight catches for
129 and a touchdown. But also, Cooper Cup is the first player in NFL history with at least
100 catches and 10 receiving touchdowns in the team's first 12 games.
Definitely the first white guy to do that.
Oh, 1,000 percent.
Throw that in the stats.
For sure.
Hey, Sony, Michelle, good day.
Van Jefferson, good day.
Two guys are going to need down the stretch.
They need the running game addressed.
And they need the Robert Woods void addressed.
And Odell giveth, O'Dell taketh away because O'Dell had a touchdown,
but not
not without chicken winging a touchdown
or the other day.
Alligator arm.
Alligator arm in a big way.
In the same spot,
he caught that spectacular catch five,
six years ago.
Man, he was scared of that hit.
Hey, listen, man.
Just calling out how I see it.
Sometimes we get caught looking bad.
But he made up for it later.
He had a touchdown later.
You know, he didn't want to be in the hospital
next to Matt Stafford.
Matt Stafford has he's got broken glass under his feet.
He was hit with a baseball bat.
He fell down a three-story flight of stairs.
Like all that stuff.
This is per Diana Rossini.
Like, I love this new game, you know, letting us know people are hurt.
We, fuck.
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NFC East, man.
I love this division.
Second favorite, probably my favorite division.
Second favorite division being the NFC North.
But the NFC East, man, you've got two big wins in that division today.
The Eagles, they were on today.
The Eagles were on, dude.
And Garner Minshue with that mustache, it's there for the taken.
I'm not saying the job's there for taking, but people's adoration of you in Philadelphia.
They haven't scored like that in almost a decade, I feel like, in Philly.
I don't even know, not almost a decade.
I'm exaggerating, but they scored on their first five or six drives.
It wasn't since 1978 that the two teams scored three touchdowns consecutively on their first three drives, respectively.
That's a fucking mouthful.
Okay, but they did all that today.
And Gardner Minshu's got to be happy.
His stock's up as a guy after this season.
He could join that crowded quarterback carousel.
He's playing for paper.
I mean, I'm glad he did win because he didn't want to be the only quarterback.
to lose for the Eagles against the Jets.
The Eagles are 12-0.
They're 12-0 versus the Jets all-time.
So incredible.
Those teams live right down the road from each other.
And in the history of football, a very old game,
there hasn't been a Jets win over the Eagles.
And I love that streak.
This is going to be low-key,
one of my favorite records if they keep holding it.
And Garner Minchew is etched into the books of history.
He's a part of it.
so great for he's bouncing around places and just getting these key wins and leaving leaving his mark in different cities.
What awesome situation for him to find a home. I often wondered if he could be the guy somewhere.
I don't know. It's just the Jets. But damn it, if they didn't look good distributing that football and just playing within the offense today and checking down when he needed to do that,
hitting Dallas Goddard who made
Howie Roseman look really good today
for a bunch of yards. The first
touchdown pass was a great
throw by Minshu. Great job buying
time all day. He moves really well in the pocket.
And the second one was a great pick
concept. They get away with that one.
And they're in the end zone a bunch. So
good day for the Eagles, gives them a little
positivity and gives... It also lets
you know that Jalen's not doing well this week.
If Jalen's not healthy,
you start Minchu, but
Siriani kind of said after the game,
I don't know if he meant this week, but Jalen Hertz is a starter,
which from that I would glean he's healthy as well.
Well, if you want to have Minchew find a permanent home,
there's a stat line here.
You got Baker Mayfield through 24 games,
Gardner Minshu through 24 games.
You don't even have to read it.
I know which one's better.
37 touchdowns, 5,500 yards, 11 interceptions.
I know I've seen Baker throw.
11 picks this year.
6,100 yards, 26 interceptions.
Yeah.
Which player is which?
I'm taking Gardner Minsh, the first guy.
Yeah.
I mean, just because it's something new.
If the, I don't want to be overreactive to the Jets win that Minch you put together.
And by the way, great job by the 50-50 plan today because the other 50 would be Jalen Hertz.
But they executed that game well in Miles Sanders, who hasn't scored a touchdown all year.
He's got like 600 yards rushing.
He's like, he's had a lot of bad luck.
But Minchu, man, you just got to be happy for him.
He's a guy.
It kind of, it was tough for me last year to watch Nick Foles lose his job.
Well, not last year.
Was that last year?
No, two years ago.
It was tough for me two years ago to watch Nick lose his job.
I remember it was my first game actually out of the league.
It was first weekend out of the league watching football.
I was at some casino in Atlantic City, and I was doing an appearance,
and I was prepping for my first Sunday pod.
And I watched Nick Foles
and I'm thinking he's really going to take the Jagson next level.
He got tattooed like the first play,
throwing a touchdown, a beautiful ball
to the right sideline by the pylon.
And he goes out with a broken collarbone.
And I really wanted him to have a great year.
So I was so biased.
But you could definitely see why people get excited about Gardner Minshu.
He just kind of has that it factor.
And he kind of staved off Nick
the rest of the season. It was tough to see that.
But golly, you see that video of him
after the game.
That's a contact sport I was saying,
you know, celebrate when Garda Minchu. He definitely
looked like he just got into flight school.
It was also like a clear
thing at the hospital when he just
I couldn't tell if he was going to beat his dad up
or if he was going to give him a hug
and eventually it turned into a hug. So I was really
appreciative of that. But
good day overall for Byrds fans.
You can figure that quarterback thing out
later. I don't even want to have that conversation.
But do you think Minchu is still constipated?
No, he took a big deuce today because, as we all know,
Garner Minshue does not go number two if he's number two.
Well, I'll tell you this, man, in preparation for the competition,
I haven't taken a shit in weeks.
It's not an option for me.
Number two is not an option.
Does that make sense?
Nothing about that made sense over the summer.
Washington football team climbing back in at Hineke.
This is the only thing I really want to say about the game.
Here's the bonus for him.
He has a clause in his contract where he gets 125K if he plays 60% of snaps and he gets a win.
And he's won the last four games.
So he's going to have a great.
A great Christmas with an extra half a mill.
Yeah, quite the windfall.
Ooh.
I mean, that's why he was so excited.
I knew he was, he's a competitor and all that stuff.
But last week in Seattle, it was like you won the Super Bowl.
And this week also, like, really hyped.
And I'm hyped too.
But it does hit different when you hit a bonus, man.
And when you hit four bonuses in a row and your team wins and it means the same thing, it's like, fuck, we're going up by Opus won on me.
I just hit a parlay for $155 and I'm juiced.
But imagine a hundred, a hundred and twenty-five K.
Yeah.
Man.
Come on now.
Right?
Come on now.
Every time you win a football game
and you only had to score like 17 and 19 points
to do it two weeks in a row.
I mean, they're doing a good job there.
Scott Turner, who I question, you know,
his hiring, quite frankly, on this show,
he's fucking doing a good job with the guys he's got.
Logan Thomas, who's a tight end,
obviously lost for the year.
I want to talk about that in a second,
but he was a quarterback coming out.
McLaurin, third round.
Antonio Gibson, community college wide receiver, Heineke, XFL guy.
I read that today.
It's like when you really think about it, they've done a good job of identifying talent,
taking chances, and making them fit in this offense with a bunch of different quarterbacks,
which is tough.
And ultimately, everything they're doing is a reflection on Ron Rivera and his leadership.
And I do, I feel bad for Fitsy, Fitzgerald, because he thought, we thought this was the year
he was going to take a team to the playoffs.
This team might go to the playoffs without him.
And he got hurt the first game.
Reminds me a little bit of the Nick Foles thing.
I thought he was set up to succeed in Jacksonville.
And same thing with Fitsy.
Logan Thomas had a great touchdown catch.
You know, like I hate when people say,
you're sitting in a hospital bed in a cast.
I'm a Virginia fan, but good luck on the comeback.
You should just care anyways.
I was bummed out to see it.
But as a guy who's on the other side of a rivalry,
and they just kicked our ass in all seriousness.
I hope he comes back soon.
His story.
Tough play.
Tough play and a tough play for people to understand.
His story is really cool getting to where he is
because he's a really good tight end in this league
and he's carved out a really nice name for himself
and he was a quarterback coming out.
And that's a really rare thing to be able to go
from quarterback to a position.
And he's done it like at a high low.
Yeah, that's Tito.
He's the real Tim Tebow.
Yeah, for sure.
That's the real Tim Tebow.
But this dude got his ACL took out today, and I hate to put it that way.
I'm just, that was the action like Yanuk and Gakwe goes to cut him, and we call that a crunch play.
Anytime the tight end comes back across the formation to block the defensive end, that's like a crunch play.
It's a big collision.
Usually the advantage is to the tight end.
He can see who his target is.
The defensive end, you have to be like adept and know who's coming to block you and go meet that and read your key.
A lot of times you're caught in awkward positions, and a lot of times,
tight ends if you're facing them, will cut you straight up,
which is part of the game.
We know it's part of the game.
So what we would do sometimes to combat that is we would try to cut tight ends
to dissuade them from coming across and give them a little trepidation that we feel.
It's a face-up cut.
It's face-to-face.
You know I'm coming, and I'm trying to cut your legs out.
I'm going to build a pile.
And I'm also going to make you think twice about coming next time and definitely not cutting me because I'll be on the same plane and we'll both be knocked out.
And I can remember we used to do this against Seahawks and Luke Wilson was like, what the fuck are y'all doing?
Because it's perfectly legal, but they don't take it into account.
And I'm like, yeah, it's not real cool when we do it.
William Hayes used to really piss people off doing this.
I mean, people were like, not that motherfucker again.
But it's a perfectly legal play.
It is not a dirty play.
it is an answer, in my opinion, to what tight ends do to us.
And that's not like a vindictive answer.
There is a tactical point to like cutting a blocker if you can get to him early enough
and it's tight enough to the line of scrimmage.
Hey, it's a physical game and there's certain plays in this game that we hate to see,
but it's part of it.
It's part of it and it's going to happen.
It's going to keep happening.
And it's unfortunate.
it and all we can do is hope that he can come back and that wasn't his last play.
It can't be dirty if in the same moment you can cut me.
Yeah.
It just can't be dirty.
I hope he's back.
I mean, he's a fucking hell of a player.
Dallas schedule Washington, New York, Washington, Cardinals, Eagles.
I think Dallas has this division, but this Washington and Eagles race is Kingston.
I mean, what are we looking at here?
We got to use our exclusive rights to 538.
Yeah, the NFC is kind of muddy.
You got basically the five teams you mentioned up top.
Matt Nacky.
I didn't get that joke for like a whole week, by the way.
Really?
Yeah.
Are you fucking kidding me?
Cardinals, Packers, Bucks, Cowboys and Rams all have four losses or less.
And then you have Washington, San Francisco, and the Eagles all sitting there with six wins, buying for two spots.
It's a log jam.
It's a good old-fashioned NFC's logjam.
I feel like the NFC has been the division for quite some time where like
it's muddy around seven, eight, nine wins.
And it's no different this year.
There's going to be a lot of mud.
And shout out to my producer at Amazon with NFL films,
Jason Hartilius, who is a Giants fan and he had a tweet today,
in two games since the Giants fired Garrett against teams under 500,
one touchdown by an offensive lineman,
an average of 257 yards of total offense
and a coach says they're moving in the right direction
years away from being remotely competitive
blow it all up. That's one take.
That's what Giants fans feel like right now
and I feel like the temperatures as high there
as it is almost anywhere.
Sequan Barkley's not working out.
Daniel Jones is hurt right now but
although he's played better, the team hasn't gotten better
and quite frankly it's just an uninspiring outfit
like they go out, it's fourth and two,
It's fourth and three.
It's fourth and four.
It's all within four yards of midfield, and they don't go for it.
And, you know, you kind of preach an attitude of being aggressive.
And I think Joe Judge is a really good dude.
And I think he's probably a good head coach, but it's just you've got to be more aggressive than that.
In my opinion, and the heat is up there.
Newsflash to me, Mike Glennon is 6.8.
Somebody said today.
Mike Glennon is 6.
I played against him.
Yeah, so did I.
You won't see, right?
He went to NC State.
Yep, and his brother, obviously, is Sean and went to tech.
Okay, he's a GDH.
What goddamn hokey.
Yeah, that's all I'm going to say about the Giants.
And by the way, too, another win for the dolphins.
And the AFC, we'll get to that in a second.
There's like no difference between all the teams.
I mean, there's a world of difference,
but on the win-loss total, it's not much different.
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Two dark horses lost today in the NFC. The Niners lost. I should have known. Niner's
Russ has owned them in Seattle. That was a trend that kind of got away from me.
Russ looked like Russ. Seattle looked like Seattle at times. They got good breaks. There
was a lob to lock it.
They forced turnovers.
There was a fake punt.
It felt very Seattle.
Even at one point it was like second and 30.
Then it was like third and 20 something.
And then they damn near got a fucking roughing call or a personal foul that would
have been typical of Seattle.
But they found a way to win like kind of a crazy game.
They found a way to turn the ball over twice in the low red.
Gerald Everett.
First one, he basically was playing hacky sack with the football.
I don't know if kids still do that.
Remember that?
Hackiecky sack, yeah.
Stoners.
Yeah, I think it was like a little stoner kids.
I was pretty decent.
Yeah, I couldn't really do it.
Fucking tall, goofy kid.
I could get two or three hits.
Two or three hits, yeah.
Well, Gerald ever got like two or three hits,
and the ball went right to a San Francisco 49er.
That was a rough game for him.
I'll give him the hollow man.
Give him the hollow man.
But they won, in spite of that,
a fumble on the goal line as well.
And Carlos Dunlap made two,
really big plays in this game. Dunlap who's been you know like started out like gangbusters in
Seattle has kind of had a quieter year and after that Everett interception you know was on him
Dunlap came up with the safety you know like that was a big deal in the game and then late
the PBU that basically sealed it knocking the pass down in the low red where a rush is great
but you don't want to let up big rush lanes.
You have to kind of play volleyball.
And who better to play volleyball than damn Carlos Nunlap.
He's taller in Mike Glennon.
How tall is he?
He's about...
I mean, he's probably 6'8 and a quarter of Mike Glennon's 6'8.
I don't know.
That motherfucker's tall.
How about him and Robert Quinn's same high school?
I worked out with Dunlip down in Florida.
Yeah, so did I.
We worked out together there.
Remember that year.
We went to a little Duval show.
Yeah.
Me and Dunlap.
That was a lot of fun.
Duval, shout out.
But yeah, they lost, and I don't know.
I don't know what happens with the Niners now.
The problem with the Niners is this.
They've been swept in division by the Cardinals and Seahawks.
I keep talking about how dangerous they are,
but they won't get there on a regular basis
if they can't figure that out.
You know, they can't just own the Rams.
Seattle has Texans, Bears, Lions, Cardinals, Rams.
Five straight, that would help.
Matt Nackie.
They're going to get in if they win five straight.
I don't know.
Yeah, it's unclear.
the NFC, but there's a possibility that
eight wins could get somebody in, so it's hard
to rate anybody off right now. Which is bad
in a 16
game season. This is ridiculous.
When you think about teams historically,
the Beastquake,
Seahawks, who we let in the playoffs.
I think that year we lost to Charlie
Whitehurst, and we let them in the
playoffs, and then they ran over
all the Saints in Seattle,
and everybody remembers that. Usually
though, these teams don't go far.
nine or seven seed
Texans and Falcons on the schedule
Bengals, Rams, Titans
so some ups and downs
they couldn't get the run game going today
when you can't get the run game going
I don't know what you do with Jimmy
it just depends
and listen
the game of the week
for me before we finish with the
AFC and the mess that is
is the lions
man the lion's got to win
there's a bit here where everybody likes
to cheer the
lions on
root them across
finish line. And in one way, I'm sad that's over.
Because now people aren't going to care as much.
They win their second game. They're going to be like, hey, not too much now.
You know what that is?
What's that? Life alert.
Life alert. Again, for the people in Minnesota.
Yep, life alert.
Another game of losing three points or less.
Yep.
And on top of it to a team that has no wins, you give them their first win of the season.
That's really good.
Impressive.
So anyways, I just, like, it's another heartbreak and loss for the Vikings, but for the Lions, now if you win another game, people are going to be like, hey, a little too much winning now.
You've got to think about the draft.
But you know, Lions, if you start winning more games, people are going to, they're going to be over it.
I'm just, this is the way it goes.
I've been there.
Good for them.
I've been on a team that won one in 15.
Ironically, we got our win in Detroit.
We needed a fake field goal to Danny Fells.
to beat the Lions.
And it's hard, man.
It is a grind.
It wears you out.
It's a strain on your mental health
losing that many football games in the NFL.
Reggie Scott used to have,
he's a trainer in L.A. now still,
but he was in St. Louis,
and he used to have a picture that hung in his office,
at least during the Spag's tenure.
I'm sure it's not there anymore.
But it was a picture of all of us on a knee
praying in Detroit after the game.
Like, thanking God for giving us the nod that weekend.
And I always used to think, like, did we fuck up the prayer
of the other 15 weeks?
Not to, like, you know, like, being on a 115 team,
we'll convince you that nobody upstairs cares about football.
Like, it's like, no, a benevolent ruler
would not put anybody through this strain.
It's really tough.
And I'm really just happy for the lions
and I'm happy for Dan Campbell,
because the thing I was talking about earlier
with Brian Kelly and different coaches,
they exist on a spectrum of being good people
or people you can hang your hat on.
And this guy, Dan, might fail here, but he's a good guy.
He is a good guy.
He cares about his players.
And the fourth and one call was terrible.
I hated it backed up.
I'm not saying that was Dan's call.
What did I say to read?
Reid, what did I say to you?
You said golf, don't turn your back on...
I said, don't give...
Don't put golf in a situation as we were watching on the live stream.
By the way, I had the Lions 18 ways.
And the key here is the Vikings lost.
So this was the biggest swing.
game for me in their win total. This was
an astronomical win today, as was the
Chargers win. Those are the two totals
I'm sweating. But I said don't
on fourth and one backed up with a chance to seal
this game two minutes to go.
The balls on them to go for it.
I get that part of it. In fact,
I thought that was the right call, but
don't have the guy that you're not sure
about, turn his back to defense.
And sure enough, it ends in not only
turnover on downs, but a turnover
turnover, which was ugly.
If you'd have told me that when the Vikings got the ball under two minutes,
they would score a touchdown and then the lines would answer it with one of their own.
I'd have said you were crazy.
I mean, it took a third and 11 where the back caught the ball at the 50 and ran out of bounds.
Somehow it took 14, was dog tired.
St. Brown, that's his name.
He was dog tired.
He tapped out and I go, read.
After one of the plays, he tapped his helmet.
You know, like come get me in a two minute.
I'm like, buddy, the game's on the line and my money, dude.
and then next thing you know
this guy catches the game winner
and I totally get why he took himself
out of the game. He needed a rest and they always say
like if you're too tired, tap
out and go, I'm glad he tapped out
and he got a little gas in the tank to go get it
and a bad defense on the last play.
That was one of the, if you were talking about this game,
you were talking about that defense.
One in 16 is a lot better than one in 017
because O'N 17, nobody's thinking about this.
It's never been done, obviously.
and you know like that would have been tough to match exponentially harder than no in 16
you know how the 72 dolphins pop champagne whenever the last undefeated team goes down
what do you think the 08 lions and 17 Browns do when the last team gets a win do they like
they go to like a group and talk about their feelings I feel like that shit just doesn't
wash off. Yeah, it just doesn't.
I can remember in college
watching our locker room. I've said this
on this pod before. Greg Camarillo
scored a touchdown for the Dolphins
circa 08 or whenever they were
almost so in 16. It was
like a walk off and they weren't supposed to win the game
and it was at the end of the season. It was
the thing that kept them from joining that really
unfortunate club. So
it's great for them and for the Vikings
it's even better because I have a real
shot at cashing in this bet now.
And the Vikings lost to me is so
backbreaking that it reminds me one of those like when Jeff Fisher was there and we couldn't get over the hump and we had bad quarterback play because guys were hurt and it was no fault of fishes but we just couldn't get over the fucking hump and some of those losses where you should have won late in the year and you have a run of bad performances the quiet in one of those locker rooms you know the losses like that I'm talking about they're different where everyone's sitting in the locker and like you know the team's going to have to bring it up to talk to the coach and every
Everyone's kind of lagging around.
But what the fuck are we going to say, dude?
There is nothing to say it's over.
And everybody knows it.
Unfortunately, Matt and Acky, they're not eliminated.
And that's the problem is like, you go to work.
It's fucking weird.
You're like, when you decide as a team that you don't deserve to be in there,
like that's a feeling that you never forget.
There were times in 2018 with the Eagles.
We lost a game to Tennessee that was abhorrent.
And I had a bad play late.
Me and Michael Bennett had a bad play late on like a third and something.
thing, third and long, where we let Tannahill scramble out and there was a big disagreement
on the sidelines. And, you know, we had championship DNA as a team, so we were able to recoup,
but after a game like that, you feel like it's over. You know, like most teams fold. And I think
this is a Vikings team that probably folds because they lost stealing today, too. They're down
a million guys. Guys, just give up. It's warm. Just let go. Just start to feel warm.
Are you shooting the cannons off for them?
I don't want to do that.
I don't want to tempt fate.
And the last thing we got done doing
was sorting out this AFC mess.
I'll give the fly on the wall.
Like we watched the Baltimore in Pittsburgh game
in that sporadic,
crazy, hectic,
4 p.m. slate.
Fly on the wall, I'm going to give it to Miles Garrett
because he's sitting at home
and he's watching T.J. Watt.
He wants to be a defense player of the year.
He's got 14 sacks.
T.J. Watt now has a two or three sack lead on him.
T.J. played his ass off.
Three and a half sacks.
Six his.
It's 12 pressures.
These are ungodly numbers.
I think it's a two-man race for this award.
We talked about digs early in the season.
Streaky turnover guys, like it cools.
And eventually you're like,
for you to pick the balls off, he's picked off, it's incredible.
Yeah.
But there's a different kind of dominance
when it comes to a defensive lineman
or a pass rush or taking over a game.
And that's what these two guys do.
And so I'll give TJ the game ball
because watching his, the veins,
his neck pop out, screaming at the top of his lungs, with a million terrible towels in the
background, that's football to me.
Like, that's fourth quarter, division rivalry, you're cornered.
That makes my hair stand on end, getting opportunities on third down to go fucking make a big
play.
That's what being clutch is about, and T.J. Watt is clutch.
He showed up when his team needed it, and that's why he's in contention for that award.
And by the way, Beville Conway, let's go into Pittsburgh and Baltimore.
Just the association of that rivalry, to me, I get a little excited.
Even though Pittsburgh, the defense up front, they still kick ass in a lot of ways.
But it's just not as scary anymore.
Mark Andrews was bobbling a ball, and he ended up short of the sticks by two yards
and was fighting, like carrying a little tackler.
And there were three guys, you knew they were coming to crack him.
And you just weren't afraid of what that sound would be.
Just the back end, it used to be so dangerous.
It was like a highway, dude.
Yeah, it was like watching a dog on a highway.
Like, you're like, oh, fuck.
Like, a guy is definitely going over the middle.
You should swarm a lot.
Yeah, and the rivalry still, it's hateful, right?
Like, Devante Freeman just got there, but he ran over, he was out of bounds and ran
ended up on the bench and Benny Snells sitting there right next to him.
And usually, you know, a guy goes out of bounds and falls into somebody's bench.
They all, like, pat him on the butt and, like, say, like, go back in there, like,
whatever, like, good run maybe, or they get out of the way.
like nobody reacted.
Benny Snell just looked at him.
What fuck are you doing here?
And then like there was some guy that was like,
do I help him?
Do I not help him?
It's not a friendly rivalry.
And the Ravens are in a situation now
where they have to win games
because their schedule's so tough
and the secrets out.
They're not that good.
Lamar's carried them
and their running backs are banged up
so the play action's not there.
There's even more pressure on Lamar.
It's getting to be too much.
It really is.
And the throws today he was off on.
I mean, the pick in the end zone third and four,
you know, they circled it through the ball to Freeman late.
Mark Andrews is there.
He's off target in general today.
He's going to have those days.
He also gives you a chance when the offense breaks down.
But they have failed to build around him.
And just a couple injuries should not tank a Super Bowl championship aspiration type team.
That's why they're not, to me, a Super Bowl team.
But in the AFC right now, who really is?
Every team has four losses.
They have four losses.
The Ravens now have four losses, right?
61 points, though, they scored in the last four games.
So that run game, if it's not right...
Four or more losses.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, four or more losses.
Yeah, right.
Everybody's got four or more losses.
So it is wide open, but the quality of this team,
I don't see them going toe-to-to-to-consecutively,
week in and week out with the teams that they're going to need to beat.
to go play in a Super Bowl.
No, I agree.
Like we said before,
like the teams are,
it's about how they're trending.
And a lot of teams are trending the wrong way
versus getting quality wins
and showing that you're improving on things that you need to.
No question.
At this point in the season,
and the Ravens keep showing us the little things
that they can't overcome.
Well,
they overcame like a million turnovers last week.
Their luck is running out.
That's what's happening.
Like early in the year,
they had a lot of luck.
They won close games.
They're not winning their close games.
And Baltimore reminds Tony Dungey of Pittsburgh.
You said that after the game last year.
And I kind of get that because, you know,
while I think Pittsburgh held on convincing me
that they were a good football team longer than Baltimore did this year,
Pittsburgh faded down the stretch
because they had some real deficiencies
that were going to be hard to fix on the roster.
I mean, there's just not a lot you can do to fix some of these things.
And the decision.
I mean, that's what everybody's talking about.
Two-point conversion.
to win the game. Harbaugh puts up his hand.
He doesn't even check with Lamar.
I'm sure he checked with Lamar.
I mean, but jokingly, I mean, he took it right out of his pocket.
I mean, it was like he had it on his hip.
And he says after the game that it had to do with the fact that their corners were down to a nub, right?
Like, Marlon Humphrey's out.
It's a big loss, but he hasn't played well this year.
You go into overtime, he's worried about the corners.
I totally get it.
But if you're talking about scoring touchdowns and that sort of thing,
I look at it and say,
if you have to score a touchdown with the Ravens in overtime,
they weren't great in the red zone today.
So there's a few reasons that you could point to.
They were 2 of 5 in the red zone today.
I don't believe in the injuries so much.
I think you're on the road.
I think that's who you are.
I think it's in your blood.
I think it's in your team's DNA.
And part of like a team believing
and having that chance taking attitude,
that gambling attitude that makes teams great,
to go back to Doug Peterson.
or like when I was with the Eagles
we thought we could be great because we took chances.
Part of the attitude was like fuck it.
And so sometimes when the game's online,
you got to take those chances just to exist in that identity.
That's who they are.
The play was there and Lamar missed the throw a little bit
and Andrews kind of slowed up,
but T.J. Watt affected that throw.
I'll make it about T.J. Watt as much as anything.
And that's the difference in the game.
And maybe the difference in the number one seed.
I don't think they're going to pick up a lot of wins after this.
Browns, Packers, Bengals, Rams, Steelers.
Football is the greatest reality show every single week
because it's so great to think about just a few inches
and we will be having a different conversation here right now
talking about how big Harbo's balls are to go for it
and them throwing a two-point conversion and all this stuff
and off the fingertips and it's a whole different story.
A whole different story.
We're talking about how clutch the Ravens are
and how they survive all the...
But that's the thing.
You live dangerously
and eventually catches up to you
and that's what's happening in them right now.
So, AFC, number one seed,
got eight wins.
I mean, there's Kansas City
at eight wins right now.
There's the Patriots at eight wins right now.
The Titans with eight wins right now,
which doesn't even feel real
because their entire identity
is out for the foreseeable future.
They've lost convincingly lately.
But like you call them,
All the time, they're cockroaches, and they're hard to kill.
And they're hard to kill.
But they're definitely different than the other two teams with eight wins right now that people are respecting his contenders,
the Pats and the Chiefs who just won Madnacki.
It's going to be a sad day when we have to ring the horn for the Tennessee Titans.
That will be sad.
I think it's going to be the playoffs because they're cockroaches.
Yeah, so unlike in the NFC where our team is probably likely to get through with a record of eight and nine,
in the AFC, it's a pretty good chance that it's going to take a record of 10 and 7 to get in.
So right now you got the Chargers and Bengals at 7 and 5 and the Colts at 7 and 6 kind of on the fringe.
There's three teams without six wins in the FACC.
Like the Dolphins and the Patriots are two games apart.
Insanity, actually, to think about.
Put the dolphins in the NFC and the Miami Herald would run an article about how they're going to win the Super Bowl.
Yeah, Miami Herald, if they were in the NFC, would have already had the parade and sponsored it.
and they might be writing an article about us soon
because we killed them last week and they won again.
But like there's three teams without six wins.
Jets, Texans, Jags.
Tennessee and Baltimore have eight wins,
but I don't take them seriously right now.
You know, and one team it's because of the injuries
and the other team is because of the injuries,
but also because I don't think they were that good
even to start the season.
Their fucking injury report looked like a band t-shirt.
It looked like if you just zoomed out and relax your eyes,
there were so many names on there.
I thought they were playing in Spokane.
I thought injury report,
was playing in Spokane.
Well, they like heavy metal
and there should be a band called
Injury Report and they should use
the same font and do a poster because
it looked just like it. The thing was
it was a thick with two C's
injury report.
And
yeah,
these teams are banged up. So I wrote
this at 823 at the kickoff of
Kansas City game. My
three best teams in the AFC
are the Pats, the Chiefs, and the Colts in no
particular order. And the bills
and the Chargers are on the outside looking in there.
And some people are saying, what about the Ravens?
I just told you.
The Colts scare the Pats.
In my opinion, I'm not saying, I'm not speaking for the Pats,
but if I'm the Cults concern me.
If I'm the Chiefs, the Pats concern me.
And if I'm anybody, the Chiefs scare me.
And I think the Chargers scare corners.
So, like, everybody's scared of somebody in the AFC,
and I'm not sure who's afraid of the bills,
but we'll find out tomorrow night.
This is a tailor-made opportunity for them to regain the state.
that they've lost.
You know, it's kind of,
the NFL is kind of the opposite of,
you know,
thousand bridges,
like you burn a bridge and your bridge burner.
You could be asked the entire season,
but a nicely placed Monday night game
against the hottest team in the league
and you beat them.
Everybody's going to forget about that Colts game.
Everybody's going to forget about
everything you've done all year,
how you've not run the ball,
Josh Allen having a quietly down year.
Whenever have you done for me lately?
Yeah,
it's an interesting deal.
And that's the excitement of the NFL.
And they're in it.
Like they're right in the AFC.
I've thought at times this year, like early in the year, they could win the Super Bowl.
I mean, they could go a long way proving tomorrow night that they're for real.
So the game's in Buffalo, which is another reason not to bet the bills really because the paths have owned them there.
I mean, it's like everything about this thing.
The turnovers, Josh Allen.
The only question mark is big game, rookie in the rain.
Oh, yeah, he played pretty solid against Tampa Bay.
was like feels like a lifetime ago so this is going to be an interesting game and the one thing
the pats don't do well stopping the run the bills can't do so stavius whites down it's weird it's
hey i i had an idea a business idea maybe we should go to buffalo and we should be table sellers we
should sell tables there are no business ideas in this studio after one a m like think about that they
they buy tables to jump through and break weekly don't you think somebody's already been like
Hey, there's a market here for tables.
There's probably a table store right outside the stadium.
They just sell tables.
Think about that.
One of those strip malls right there, there's a fucking plastic table store.
We would move up to Buffalo, unpack our suitcase, and we'd be the laughing stock of the town.
So there's two things you propose for me in Buffalo.
First, we go up to Buffalo.
And what was it?
What was it?
It had something to do with injuring people.
Oh, no, it was the table.
It was a table thing.
We were going to get, but we were, no, we were going to get tables that don't break and break.
That's sadistic.
No, it's one business.
We're going to have the reverse table.
You're trying to break into, you're an outsider trying to break into their number one industry outside of bars.
I'm actually not.
Bars with no windows.
I'm from the state of New York.
So I'm actually not an outsider.
Well, yeah, but if you come in there and try to break up their table selling industry and throwing them through tables that don't break.
you're going to be public enemy number one buddy
well some guy in a carhart vest
is going to look
what fuck I'm wearing a car heart vest
all right
Matt Nacky what you got
I mean tough two games coming up for the bills
they got Patriots and then
at Tampa if both of those
games don't go well they're sitting seven and six
but they have an opportunity to be like
hey look at us yes
you know what I mean like they if they
if they find a way to rattle off these
two wins bro it's going to be
It's going to be Buffalo to the Super Bowl.
You know how this thing goes?
I didn't write the rules.
Changed every week.
I change all the time.
It's because teams change.
Chargers,
giant,
enormous win.
Bengals loss,
probably equally enormous.
Yeah,
what you got, Matt?
I mean,
both those teams are now sitting at seven and five,
so that was a huge inflection point on the season for both of them.
What's the math?
Do we have a math situation there?
We do.
We have the Bengals at 42.
2% to make the playoffs
and the chargers surge to 77%.
That's what the chargers do.
They surge.
Electricity.
Both 7 and 5, we had a Bengals wedding today.
We had a Dolphins wedding today.
By the way, I didn't mention that earlier.
Somebody got engaged at the half of the Dolphins game.
They broke a streak where they were 0 and 3.
They were 0 in 3, I believe, Reed.
O and 3 when somebody got married at a Dolphins game.
Now they're 1 in 3.
Okay.
And I told it to you.
Those marriages are over.
for three so far and
I'm hoping
that something changes for
the fourth couple.
Like generally, if you get married
at a stadium, I don't know.
Does that raise your chances or lower your chances?
Half of marriages end in divorce.
I got to imagine that
three quarters of stadium marriages end
in divorce. Is that insensitive?
If you know somebody who got married
at a stadium and is doing well, write us.
But somebody got married
at a Bengals wedding, which I feel like actually a
Bengals wedding would go, I feel like a Bengals wedding ends better than a Miami Dolphins wedding
because again, I'm sorry guys. You're lovable, but I have no idea. We've got to do like a
personality disorder test on you guys. Not only are you rooting for the dolphins, you're getting
married at their games. Where'd you get married? The Hard Rock Stadium at half time. It was a
quarterback stool between Tua, Tawa, and Mike Glennon. Tua's 510 Mike Glennon. Tua. It was five, ten,
Mike Glenn 6-8
weirdest game on Sunday. But anyways
Wah-hu-Waw.
Fucking, the Chargers were not playing games.
The Chargers were not going to the jungle and getting
jumped here. They were afraid of Joe Mixing.
With good reason, like, everybody
I talked to, everybody that
knew something about football,
my read on it was, damn,
I should damn near hedge this
and bet the Bengals because
the Chargers are going to lose
this football game and I'm going to
lose that overwin total.
well, they jumped them and they never had to deal with Joe Mixing.
You get a two, three touchdown lead early in the game.
I think it was like 23-0-0-0-0-0-3-0-0.
Throw that run game out the window.
Yeah, throw that run game out the window.
So what it was, Herbert was mad, dude.
Don't get Herbert mad.
He starts going for the jugular.
Chargers, you know, they were due.
They went back and forth the last six games.
Win, loss, win, loss, win, loss.
They're still the chargers, man.
They're just a new and improved chargers.
Third and seven, I mean, he just rips a ball to Parham for 50 for no reason.
Basically he throws a Hail Mary because he's just like, fuck, I want to win this game.
I want to throw the ball far.
Like, Parham should have caught the ball.
It went right through his hands.
I mean, earlier, he goes to Mike Williams for 47.
A lot of the CBS crew is yelling.
You know, like, I want that CBS crew doing Justin Herbert games all the time because it's just a lot of shit that makes you yell.
Some of the throws that he made early in the game were unbelievable.
Most impressive thing to me, though, is the tackle.
Oh, yeah, his tackle.
The tackle he made on the pick that he threw.
But just like you said, that, ah, I just want to throw this ball.
When he threw that pick, it was when he went for that tackle,
he had his mind made up that this dude is not scoring a touchdown off of this interception.
Listen, those two quarterbacks have balls
Because last week Joe Burrow tried to beat a guy up
He has no business trying to beat up
After a pick, T.J. Watt
And then this week,
Justin Herbert found a way to run down an interception,
use the sideline and get his head across.
There are corners who don't make that tackle.
Like, I don't see that tackle made with that effectiveness.
He made quarterbacks.
I think all the quarterbacks should thank him
because he made you guys all look good.
Or he made them all look bad
because then later you got Teddy Bridgewell
trying to tackle in that game.
We'll get to that in a second.
At least you tried this week.
The old line was hurting for Sinci.
They're young guys who were replacing guys.
Penalties early.
They were backed up.
It was third and long.
They got jumped.
Jamar Chase, two drops, pick early on him.
You know, Burrow was mad.
That finger, that pinky is important.
I get it.
Like, he's frustrated.
And he came out and threw the ball pretty well.
The throw to Boyd on third and three, like over,
I forget who it was, but he just floated that thing in there.
It looked fine.
stood in there, got blasted,
throwing the ball to Boyd, like took one in the sternum.
Just a tough guy, man.
Tough, just angry when it's not going well,
but not in a self-destructive way,
in a way that he really channels that shit.
And they damn near made a run.
He was so mad on fourth and four at the end of the half
when he's trying to figure out if they want to get a playoff or not.
He just walks off and is like, fuck, like, what is going on now?
That's how bad they were playing in the first half.
unforgivable issue for them though was the fumble you can do all those things and joe can put you back in the game
but when you fumble that football and you give up a return for touchdown totally swings the game
killed the momentum and that was it and on the other side eckler rare couple fumbles they survived those
are you worried at all about joe burrow's finger injury i am a little worried about it uh because fingers
it's such an exact science you like you want that thing to heal in the perfect shape
I have a few fingers that didn't heal in the perfect shape.
And because I was a delim and I wasn't worried about my fine motor skills.
Now, like, I drop things all the time.
Like, I have a fused thumb.
That's something that, like, it just happened.
I have a plate in my hand.
But I have a bunch of, like, fingers that are, like, slightly off and they're, like, all bent up.
That makes it hard to grip a football if it doesn't heal right.
So I know it's, like, supposedly a dislocation.
The swelling can make things heal kind of funky.
You got to keep that down.
you got to keep it straight.
It's got to heal in the right position.
Yeah, it's not going to be like a Russell Wilson situation,
but he's just got to like stay on top of that.
I'm sure.
Definitely got to stay on top of it,
especially coming to the end of the season
where it's getting cold.
These games are going to start being colder.
That finger being stiff.
It's more about even if you get the treatment that you,
that you need and the finger feels are right,
what's going to happen in game,
like after halftime, not moving it,
and all those type of things.
So it'll be interesting to watch that here coming in the later weeks.
Yeah, no, I mean, they're not out of it.
And again, Trey Hendrickson, Rishon Slater, people aren't beating him.
He had a sack today, at least one that I saw.
He just continues to impress even me.
I'm like, damn, this kid's just like even better than I thought every week.
And I've already called him a great rusher.
That's a nice pelt on the wall there to beat that rookie
because that rookie's been playing really well.
Lastly, the chiefs, listen, the chiefs saved my bacon today.
They were my knight in shining armor.
They were my Rapunzel.
I think I was the princess and the pee, all that shit.
I was chasing, and they saved me.
It was a fairy tale.
I bet them a million ways.
I bet the under a million ways, and it worked to perfection.
A lot of people were saying, hey, the Broncos.
Might want to think about them.
Nah.
Right, Reid?
Go Broncos, forever.
never no ways.
Yeah, but also not quite the vote of confidence because you got a brain.
You've seen the way the Broncos have played.
You've watched a lot of it up close.
When they play the Chiefs, they don't play well.
And tonight, man, they had their chances.
But that defense for Kansas City has played really well the last month or so.
And that's bad news for everybody else because they don't have to 100% figure out the offense
if they play like that defensively.
Now the one thing that they haven't figured out, that receiver.
Who's the guy that he can trust?
A couple drops today.
And as you pointed out, Nate, made up for it on special teams.
He was about to be our hollow man.
He might have been a hollow man if things had changed differently.
And he saved the day by pushing a Broncos defender into his own returner and causing a turnover.
Yep, yep, dropped a few balls.
You know, Tyreek dropped a few balls.
Let's not forget about that.
Like, it was a windy night.
Things were off.
You know, they had to commit to the run game.
Two very good running backs in this game.
Williams is a total.
fucking stud. He falls, he sneezes for
three yards, dude. Like, he just, he's
really hard to wrap up and tackle. You can tell
he's a powerful guy. But the Chiefs, man,
the Chiefs, they got the job
done. And
I don't know, if they can figure out how to
use Josh Gordon
and they find a way to win a Super Bowl
because of him becoming a viable
option, that 30 for 30
would be great. Oh my God, dude.
Unbelievable. And I want to give
Sorensen the OA Award because a guy
that looks like a 30
something year old white guy with the receding hair line and he he high stepped in the end zone and
guaranteed a cover for me and and when he picks the ball off at the the 40 yard line nobody's
thinking sorensen's going to the house but he can really run so I'm giving him the OA award you know
to just made that just even perfect if he would have got into the end zone and did the gritty
if he did the gritty yeah which is the thing everybody's doing with the arms and the legs I'm
pretty sure I'm not going to say I'm pretty sure he can't do it but if he did do it
it would have been very impressive.
Well, if he could have done the swag that he did,
whatever he did, I've never seen it before.
So it's swagging.
I did not know Sorensen had swag.
I got to talk to my brother about that.
That was incredible.
That's something that he's probably done in practice a million times.
You know, you get practice interceptions and things like that.
Yeah.
And maybe you really just think about it and you're like,
yo, if it happens, I'm going to do this.
That was a heavy high step.
But those guys stepped up on defense and I'll keep it short on the chiefs.
Chiefs are scary and they're in it.
And, you know, they get a guy named Kyle Longback eventually.
And it's more depth on that offensive line.
And I don't know.
I'm excited.
I'm excited for my brother speaking honestly.
Because there was a time where I was like, damn, like, they're not that good this year.
Okay.
They seem back.
I'm pretty excited.
Hey, I didn't do best plane ride and worst plane ride.
I'll do it right now.
Best plane ride was the Philadelphia Eagles.
The Philadelphia Eagles, because they're on a bus.
And when you're on a bus, after a football,
ball game it's the best thing in the world dude best thing in the world in college we used to fill up
gatorade bottles with aristocrat vodka we had uh i had gummies and and and nice liquor expensive liquor
try to get that triple seat row you know the one by the bathroom that was my row i've been i've been
on one of those rides and stuck with like a sitting partner and been miserable oh man if you're the guy that
has to sit next like jordan maillotta like jordan my lota sitting in some row and like you know
he's probably just death staring
every motherfucker that walks back there.
It always be the last guy on the bus,
like the sports information director
or like the media guy that's like,
can I sit here? And I was like the smallest
de lineman and also a nice guy
so I usually tried to. But if I was Jordan Milata,
no way, you're sitting next to me.
No way, nobody. I got my own row
stretching out. Worst plane ride.
I'll go jags
because that's a long plane ride
to go get your ass kick like that.
And they have not figured.
out a way to start fast, like on the year.
It's ugly.
Was that the bad plane ride, Reed?
That was a bad plane ride. We also had the Vikings.
The Vikings.
The Vikings is pretty bad, too.
If you take Jacksonville, they also had to watch Gardner and Minchu shred the Jets defense.
That was the brilliant point that you made.
It was like at the end of that game, they're probably watching Minchu, who was just there,
do something that the second coming can't do for them.
It's incredible.
He was just here.
someone's going to do the someone's going to put the meme and when it's like the wolverine and he's
holding a picture and they're looking at the wolverine picture meme yeah and it's it's going to be like
the jaggs and they're looking at garner mitchie i hate is that what that meme means it's just
kind of like he misses somebody yeah really i think so it's so funny how many times i've looked at
that meme and been like that's probably funny it's like you're sitting in your bed and you're
just like you know what being old is and i'll end the show on this being old is looking at meme
and laughing and not understanding them
and being like, I know that's funny.
Quick.
My cause, my cleats.
What would your be?
Oh, mine?
Well, obviously, water boys,
but I think the question was framed jokingly earlier.
And Reed had like a serious charity on the live stream.
What was it?
Save our winners.
And I was like,
oh, that's nice you to protect all my bets.
Like, that would be your cause.
So I stopped losing bets around you every Sunday.
It has nothing to do with that.
So shout out to,
project our winner.
Mines would be Project
Come Out. Shout out to Project Come Up.
It is a mentorship program
with the mission to increase
the financial literacy of young
black and brown adults. I love this.
There you go. I love this. I didn't have a
serious... Mine would be the
Steve Gleason Foundation, man. If I'm not
going to do a, you know, like a homie pick
and say Water Boys or Ed's own thing,
one of my
heroes, man. I love that dude. You got a chance
to know him a little bit. You know, the tail end of
my career. In fact, my last game
I think I met Steve for the first time
or no, it was the game
we got beat 44 to 7
second to last game in the Superdome
in my last year. I got a chance to meet Steve,
got a chance to meet his family,
got a chance to go up D.C. to see him get that medal.
And what he's done in a community
that oftentimes hasn't had hope,
like the hope that he's given people
not just because of the research
that he's been able to fund
and the things, the technologies
that he's been able to advance the ball on,
but also the strength
and the intestinal fortitude
that he has every day
also inspires people.
So not only does he move the ball forward,
but he inspires people.
I'm putting fucking Steve Gleason on my cleats.
I already got the jersey back here.
The whole thing, I had a hat.
He sent a hat there.
Foundation has awesome hats too.
No white flags.
Jersey, that jersey is lit.
White flag on this pod, though.
Why is that?
Because it's fucking late.
Let's go to bed.
Oh.
Hey, we put that working.
ball for one day. Hey, is in the boron. Yeah, it is. Hey, wahoo-wah, whatever happens this week.
Wah-Hua, guys. Yeah, I got, yeah, that's all I got to say.
