Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Week 13 Recap. Lions Win! Steelers vs Ravens, Chargers vs Bengals & Washington vs Las Vegas. Minshew Mania.

Episode Date: December 6, 2021

(2:38) - Hello, Layup Line, Livestreams and CFB Playoffs. (23:57) - Top 3 NFC Teams: Arizona Cardinals vs Chicago Bears, Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs Atlanta Falcons and LA Rams vs Jacksonville Jaguars. ...(41:18) - NFC East: Philadelphia Eagles vs NYJ, WFT vs Las Vegas Raiders and NYG vs Miami Dolphins. (55:12) - Seattle Seahawks vs San Francisco 49ers and Detroit Lions Win! (1:05:27) - Pittsburgh Steelers vs Baltimore Ravens, Fly on the Wall and Bevil Conway. (1:14:38) - Top 3 AFC Teams: Kansas City Chiefs vs Denver Broncos, Indianapolis Colts vs Houston Texans, LA Chargers vs Cincinnati Bengals and Angry Herbert vs Angry Burrow. (1:28:55) - Best and Worst Plane Ride. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:25 I'm Cowboy Reed. Cowboy. Today, Chris and Dr. Fax will recap the NFL's Week 13. We'll talk Monshu Mania, the Lions getting their first win, the Unstoppable Brady-Gronk connection, Steelers Ravens, Chargers, Bengals, Washington, Las Vegas, and Chris names his top three teams in both the AFC and NFC. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. Atwater, California. Like Steve.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Yeah, sure. Yeah, Steve Atwater, Broncos legend. That's the earliest Reed's ever chimed in on the show. We have a Steve Atwater football card. I wish I got it signed by him. Did I tell you I sat with Steve Atwater at the Super Bowl for a little bit? Oh, for real? And he was one of the nicest people I've ever met that was great at something.
Starting point is 00:03:05 I mean, the guy is just a remarkable human being. You'd be very, kid Reed Dickerson would be very happy to. know that. Current Reed Dickerson would be, is very happy to know that and is very jealous. Especially after that that football game
Starting point is 00:03:20 we just watched, which we'll talk about in a little bit. Chiefs, five in a row they're rolling. Layup line. I'm going to go highway men by the highway men. The highway man. Yeah. I like how they do.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Outlaw country, Nate. You into that? I'll get you into westerns. and outlawed country. Somebody DM me and was like, hey man, if you want to give Nate a good Western, you ever heard of Deadwood? I was like, yeah, I heard of Deadwood. So, yeah, Deadwood is where we start,
Starting point is 00:03:53 per some guy in my DMs. Okay. Go do Deadwood. The dialogue's a little hard to follow. I have to figure out the name, but I was getting my hair done the other day. And in the shop, there was a Black Westernon with Idris Alba.
Starting point is 00:04:10 It's like a newer. The harder they fall. It was awesome. That movie looks so damn good. I haven't seen it yet. So I'm going to have to watch it fully through. It was something where when I sat down, it was already halfway through. And the entire time, I was glued to the TV.
Starting point is 00:04:27 And the half of the movie I seen, great movie. Westerns can be awesome. I thought Morgan Freeman showing up in one in the 90s was incredible. It was awesome. Keith Stanfield is a damn good actor, Regina King. Oh, Regina King's in that. Yeah, she is fucking good. Fight scenes, with the, got the pistol work, everything.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Okay. It was good. And it's funny. I thought about you because I'm like, yo, Chris just told me that I should watch a Western. And I was like, look at this. You would really like Westerns. Anyways. I was a highway man.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Along the coach roads I did ride. with sword and pistol by my side. Highway Men is a song by the Highway Men, which of course consists of Wayland Jennings, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, and Chris Christopherson, four of the greats in music period, not just Outlaw Country. And it's a song Kyle and I like to listen to,
Starting point is 00:05:31 and it is Big Kyle's birthday today. Right now, it's 11.38 p.m. as we sit here and record this pod. And it's Kyle's birthday. And he's a Kansas City Chief and they just got to win and hopefully he'll be back soon and healthy. And Kyle was a cute kid, man. Fellow Sagittarius. He was a big cute kid. And he really, he really did melt my heart as a big brother.
Starting point is 00:05:55 And he still does, even though he could throw me through a window. He's still a big, cute kid to me. He tried to throw me through a wall at a bear's practice once. He really did literally try to throw you through something, didn't he? Yeah, me. the indoor facility you and five other people me and Kyle got kicked out of a practice an NFL professional practice me and your little big brother yeah got kicked out yeah and everyone like the indoor facility has like windows after we got kicked out we had to walk from the indoor
Starting point is 00:06:28 facility to the main building like a walk of shame and like but we were walking next to each other like just arguing and kind of laughing and everyone inside Everyone before they started practice up again, they were just looking. They probably thought y'all pulled a get kicked out of practice on purpose move, which was the ultimate vet move that I heard of happening before I never saw it executed, like to the degree that I heard stories about it. But evidently, there are a number of guys who have executed the fake fight at practice and get kicked out. Now, we've had some fights where we were like, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Well, my concern was that, if you get kicked out, you get fined. Right. And sometimes that does happen. But your brother, because he's a great guy, and he knew it was his fault, he immediately, while we were walking, he knew that's what I was mad about. And he was like, dude, if we get fine, like, I'll take care of it.
Starting point is 00:07:24 He goes, I'm sorry, I had a bad day. I shouldn't have did that to you. I love him. Love him to death. Hey, Kyle, you're the man. Happy birthday. I can't wait for you to get back and play football, foosball for the Kansas City Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:07:37 He went right to George Hallis, didn't he? Just straighten it out. Yeah, he did. Shout out to Hallis Hall. Yeah, shout out to Hallis Hall. Oh, man. Happy birthday, buddy. Earlier in our live stream, live stream two.
Starting point is 00:07:54 We fucking live stream, Breed. Yeah, we did. Fourth quarter, yeah, read and read, read and fourth quarter, four p.m. Read and react. We will be here every Sunday coming at Macon's, job security with Reed in the chair right there and we'll be reading and reacting to what we see
Starting point is 00:08:14 on the screen every fourth quarter and we had some great moments today we saw Detroit win a football game we'll get to that I mean it was incredible we had a high five it was like it was great we got to do more of that and we will read indeed you got people in the chat room yeah we had a couple people in the chat room ask us questions hold on a second fucking guy moderates the chat fucking guy sets up the TVs fucking guys the talent next door you know he's sitting in the chair next to me
Starting point is 00:08:43 I told him I wanted to do a live stream on a whim at like 140 or 340 or whatever it was let's just say for the sake argument there were four TVs set up with all different games on them and Reed was sitting in the chair ready to co-host it and moderate the fucking chat room in 15 minutes
Starting point is 00:08:59 ready to go you know what I don't like how you guys cut out me thinking Reed and the producer Because you guys, yeah, because you guys wanted to be first. When did we do that? Yeah, that was in. Was it in? Yeah, that was in.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Maybe. Oh, okay. Straight. Okay. I want to make sure. Yeah, dude. So in a weird way, you're like coming at the producers trying to thank the producers. As only you could.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I will. Shout out facts. He gave me a compliment on Twitter for my intro the other day. How about that? See that? I appreciate that. He did a good job. Fax is all bought in, bro.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Fax is bought in. It's midnight. We're going to bullshit about football for a while. but you had a question from the chat room. Hit us up in the chat. There were a number of questions that people wanted to ask, have us answer later when we recorded this show. Garrett T. wanted us to answer our thoughts on an expanded college football playoff scenario.
Starting point is 00:09:53 We're some promise keeping dudes, aren't we read? That's right. You know? By the way, it was funny, like, coming into the weekend that the committee was like, we talked it over and it turns out Notre Dame, Notre Dame's fine. Like we're not going to hold the coach thing. Barta, like last week, said,
Starting point is 00:10:10 hey, we're going to hold Brian Kelly going to Baton Rouge against this team. They basically just got in a boardroom and watched fucking Marcus Freeman video. If you don't know, like, if you don't know how I felt as a football player, watching that video,
Starting point is 00:10:27 that is what football is about. Okay, not everybody has to be like Brian Kelly. Okay, like, you can, be like Brian Kelly. I'm not going to get mad and be on my soapbox on Twitter because of the way Brian
Starting point is 00:10:40 Kelly left. That's business. But you can also be like Marcus Freeman. And yes, he's younger. Yes, he knows the players well, but you can tell they gravitate towards him. You can tell that place is like, really, it means a lot to these kids. Brian Kelly
Starting point is 00:10:56 did the impossible. He made me like Notre Dame. If you'd have told me 12 years ago that when he signed with Notre Dame that he would make Notre Dame more likable as a franchise to me, as a school of football franchise, I would have said no fucking way. But all he had to do was leave.
Starting point is 00:11:13 All he had to do was leave. And when he left, oh man, I love the O.C. I love Marcus Freeman. I love the strength coach because he used to, I mean, our boy Bayliss, he got us so jack. Notre Dame might be my
Starting point is 00:11:28 side team. I have a college side team. I mean, we got a higher to make in Virginia. And I, I'm excited, hoping. I'm hoping it's, we'll see. Is it going to be you? Is the pod in Jeopardy? That's what, that's what we're here to talk about.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Think about the ratings for the pod. Last week, I gave my list of demands this week. There's a job opening. No, I'm a concerned Virginia fan. Like every other one, I'm like, hold my breath. But we got Carla Williams. I did see the C&O Railroad over at the UVA Football Center this week. They were putting in a railroad.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Oh, for me? Yeah, at the facility. They were putting in a choochoo? Yep. Oh, man. Yeah, they're prepared. Yeah, you missed it. It's an inside thing.
Starting point is 00:12:15 But anyways, I had a list of demands. And one of them was a train in the facility that gets the players to meetings, but like a locomotive. Oh. Like one of those kind of like kids' locomotive sets, but for adults, like a legit one. The mall train. Kind of the mall train. Yeah. Adults can get on there.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Yeah, but looking like a steam engine with a, caboose and everything and Jerry Capone would ride around on the back like you know shout of Jerry Capone like your football operations guys making sure things I mean you're you're almost there like at the end of the day that's just like the Jetsons yeah it is like the Jetsons it's a conveyor boat also I'll give you this one chick fillet in the facility and a CVS in the facility you know how many things a day you would buy if you were on my staff in the facility like you would be at CVS all the time we'd be in meetings like where's nays just in CVS shopping no I would give you the kicker.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Chick-fil-A is open on Sundays. No more of this bullshit. Not in my building. Okay, buddy. Unless God can guarantee me 10 wins this season, we're not taking Sunday off from Chick-fil-A. We'll see how that goes, the higher that's coming up, and I'm sure Carla's going to head out of the park because she's awesome.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Okay. Back to Garrett T's college football. He was talking about expanding the playoffs, this guy. He was wondering if we should expand the playoffs. He said Ohio State and Notre Dame, They get in, it's like printing money for the NCAA. Yeah, I mean, like that would be highly profitable, but I don't think every year it's going to be Ohio State and Notre Dame,
Starting point is 00:13:43 like hallmark programs like that on the outside looking in. But I do think they should expand this thing. Why not? It's more football. Players have freedom to do what they want to do now. Players are sitting out of bowl games. Nobody's going to feel held hostage at this point. I don't mind another round to this thing.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Like, here's the thing. this weekend, the kicker is Bama, man, and Bama ruining college football again. Like, there was a shot of them up like two scores early in the game and all their great wide receivers were sitting on the bench talking to each other. Bama is the college Patriots. Yeah, and there was a moment where it just hit me that I'm like, they're the Patriots. Like, what are you guys thinking? What is everyone thinking?
Starting point is 00:14:26 Like, it's one of those, they're one of those teams that it's more of the hope. Everyone's just like hoping and wishing That like like this is going to be the year that like it's it's gonna Guess what and guess what it's not the year and as they were panning out of like a A shot of Metchie I was like God damn it dude And they're gonna beat the breaks off Cincinnati Dude I know it's gonna be ugly It's gonna be ugly Nick Saban's gonna be doing pull-ups
Starting point is 00:14:54 Okay Well he said he ate the rat poison Yeah and it tasted good and it tasted good psychotic. Tasted yummy. Yummy. That's the, yeah, that's the key word.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Grocer. Nick Saban is ruining college football by being too good. And here's the deal. All like I was talking to Big Cat about this and we were talking about like he's, all he's been saying for two months is that they're not good. And he was playing possum.
Starting point is 00:15:19 They are good. And here's what's fucked up. We can't even get Georgia and Bama to play the first round. We're probably going to get a Georgia and Bama rematch in the national championship. And I don't know about you. but I don't trust Georgia anymore. Nope. Okay?
Starting point is 00:15:35 Nope. I just don't. Like, by the laws of gravity and nature, they'll probably beat them the second time. But I won't put money on them. Like, listen. Not at that quarterback to play. If he plays like he did,
Starting point is 00:15:50 they're going to win it again. You can be as physical as you want. You can be as good up front as you want. But if you've got guys like Bama, that you can get them the ball in the flat to go 40 yards, or you can take the top off the defense for 40 yards. Like, that's scary. I don't want to see that again in the national championship.
Starting point is 00:16:06 And they played tough, but Alabama just showed us that they're Alabama. Aidan Hutchinson is trying to, he's trying to go number one or something. I'm not saying I would necessarily, like, maybe somewhere in the top five for sure. But like, my man's trying to go number one. I mean, he was dogging people out there in Michigan. Aidan Hutchinson was great. and Michigan kicked the dog shit out of Iowa. I should have saw it coming.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Iowa is terrible. Listen, the most heartbreaking, ridiculous play of the weekend is Oklahoma State. Damn near getting back in it. I mean, that was a physical, intense football game. That was like a very, like, Texas and Oklahoma people, a lot of people care about this game.
Starting point is 00:16:52 A lot's riding on the line, atmosphere football game in Jerry's world. And Homeboy is running to the, pile on and I'm thinking he's got the edge right but this dude for Baylor has like a movie tackle I mean he didn't think even for a millisecond about the Oklahoma State cat cutting it back and to run full speed like that directly at the sideline is a petrifying feeling and he just he needed all 21 miles per hour or however the fuck fast this guy can get up to to meet him and make the stop and he made it. Incredible. Incredible. Game of inches. Also, the fake slide. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:34 By, wait, is by Pickett. Kenny Pickett, who by the way the Steelers should draft. I'm totally jumping out of the gym for that. I don't even know if it makes sense. And he single-handedly ruined my future bet of Wake Forest winning the ACCC. Yeah, but more so he just said a really dangerous precedent. No, very dangerous. I mean, that's important to me, but for, for defenders everywhere. This is the thing that we're all watching and we're saying, okay? When this happened, I explained to my girlfriend, we're watching this game and I told suck up.
Starting point is 00:18:09 No, listen, she was like, why is that a bad play? And I said, well, here's the trickle down from this play. The fact that he did that fake spike, anytime that quarterback or quarterbacks are about to slide, there are more, they are more susceptible of defenders. taking their head off. Yeah, just decapitating them. Because now as a defender, I can say, I've seen footage
Starting point is 00:18:36 of a quarterback, fake a slide, and the refs allowed it, and scored a 60-yard touchdown off of it. No, it's a bad precedent. They need to fix that. They need to huddle up on that. I don't think anybody ever thought of that, and can he pick it, like, turns out he has swag.
Starting point is 00:18:53 At the end of the play, I'm like, oh, my God, dude, this guy is going to go number one overall. And then the And then guys are going to try to kill him for doing that. And then to hear the correspondent, they call the referee correspondent and you're watching the game. And they clearly say that the play should have been called dead as soon as he had did that. It just makes it worse.
Starting point is 00:19:15 I didn't even know there was a rule for that. So it's good. We have safeguards. But ACC refs, man. Oh, and not to mention, I mean, we talked about the Bama game before we got to the pros. Oh, yeah. Bryce Young. He's a gamer.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Oh, my God. Dude, I think he won the Heisman when he threw the ball. over the ref's head and the ref had to duck and like he matrix that throw in there. But I'm more impressed on his scrambling skills and him and him running because he doesn't look like he's moving fast. Oh, he's moving fast. He is covering a lot, a lot of ground and he's very poised. Like I think in college you see a lot of guys just not seem like they're poised and you hear
Starting point is 00:19:53 about playing for a coach like Nick Saban. I just think all around he's going to be a great player at the next level. I don't know what it is. I don't know what Nick Saban's doing to find these kids, but they're actually all like mentally on top of the game. On Saturday, Alabama became the first university to
Starting point is 00:20:10 beat a top five team in college football and college basketball after taking down Georgia in the SEC championship game and then the men's basketball team beat Gonzaga. Number three Gonzaga. Gonzaga lost, huh? Lost to an SEC team. That's right. It shows you how much fucking
Starting point is 00:20:26 college basketball I was watching this weekend, but didn't have that on my bingo card. By the way, an update on the Waffle House. I'm probably going. Nate, you know, we do Thursday night time machine. You know, the loser has to go to the Waffle House. Yep. We spent time there, so of course you know. But I was down bad, like already. Like, it was late early for me.
Starting point is 00:20:48 And Thursday, I thought I was eliminated. Like, I found out pretty much that I was out of it. read what the tally was what eight two and four so i'm doing the math we're all doing the math in real time and realize that i'm going back and it's week 13 or whatever it is it just feels early to know that you're going to the waffle house for 24 hours and making goes oh no no no don't forget like almost taunting me i don't like i don't know why he reminded me this but he if you hit the score in the nose of the thursday night game you get three points oh and i'll be damned if I didn't hit the score in the nose.
Starting point is 00:21:22 2717. Dallas 2717. Now this is the first week that I remembered that we had this rule. So I want to petition that because every time I've tried to hit the score on the nose, I hit the score on the nose.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Really? Yeah. Last week, the first week I knew that it was worth anything more than one point. I see what you're saying. Yeah, so from here on out, I'm only hitting the score in the nose and Macon's going back. but 2717 shout out to me so now you're down only a game it's 8 5 and 4 is the count so i got to win
Starting point is 00:22:03 out right that's the math wait 8 5 wait 8 5 and 4 4 draws where we're both on the wrong side yeah so read how many more thursday night games 3 3 so i got three more chances i'm down 3 i got to win out and i got a chance to send makin to the waffle house which is what everybody wants so if anybody has any inside information about these NFL games on Thursday nights, just tell me. I would camp outside the Waffle House and just tap on the glass if Makin was in there. And by the way, this year, Cowboy, your project, because I know Makin doesn't listen to the pod, we can talk about all this out in the open here. We need to find the most dope, like, awesome Waffle House in the country and do a thing.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Like, throw a party. Maybe there's one that's like indoor, outdoor. That would be nice. awesome Waffle House is not a problem. Let's find one. I don't care if it's in South Beach, whatever. And by the way, there's a rumor, shout out to our Dan Levittart contingency,
Starting point is 00:23:03 that there's a billionaire donor down there, broke today. And he's got the wild idea that he's going to, or he should fund a stadium in Coral Gables, a 50,000 seat stadium
Starting point is 00:23:19 in Coral Gables, as if Miami needs anything. when it comes to facilities. They're set there, sir. No need to fund that stadium. Save your hard-earned money. I was told by a bunch of people this week, and some of them were yelling,
Starting point is 00:23:35 and more so it was Barrett Jones was getting yelled out, which I felt bad about because I love Barrett, bro. I was told the facilities are set. They're good with the stadium in Miami Gardens and 60 miles away, Coral Gables practice facility. and this guy would be a Gibroni if he funded this stadium because things are perfect at Miami when it comes to facilities.
Starting point is 00:23:59 So with the Cowboys winning, they create a little distance, much needed, with two surging, if you call it that, surging NFC's teams. Well, one of them's on a legitimate win streak. And they're one of the NFC's elite, and we're looking at the NFC here. There are two teams, three teams really,
Starting point is 00:24:17 that I think are at the top that everybody's going to be eyeing down the stretch. Tampa, Arizona, Green Bay, in any order you put them. And then I'd probably put the Cowboys right outside those guys. Tampa's got a pretty easy schedule down the stretch. So Arizona needed to start winning football games. And they're at this funny kind of crossroads where, you know, last year, everybody knows by now Kyler got hurt.
Starting point is 00:24:44 You know, he didn't miss any time, but he had an upper body injury. And it changed the way they operated as an offense. they had trouble moving the ball. They had trouble, he had trouble tucking it and running it, and they had trouble feeling confident in him doing that, and down the stretch,
Starting point is 00:25:01 they kind of tanked a little bit. And if you remember, they were pretty hot early in the year. This year, same kind of trajectory for Kyler, although it's a lower body injury. Today he came back. And so today was a big deal for a few reasons.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Number one, you get him back, you get D-hot back, but you also get to see what he looks. looks like and you get to see how confident they are in where he is physically. This is Cliff Kingsbury's best work, right? Part of that is managing whatever the injury was to Kyler Murray and not bringing him back too soon. And today I gotta say, it was a good sign.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I mean like what I saw, it was a good sign. I mean, first off, you wake up today, the forecast is cold, it's rainy. If you're coming off an ankle injury and you want to be right. and it's been a couple months since you're at full speed. Like, that's not what you want to see when you look outside. And on top of it, Soldier Field. Trust me. The turf's not great.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Listen to a guy who tore his ACL on that side. Sticky. Sticky, sticky, sticky side. It is not a place that you probably feel confident in your footing, all that stuff. You have to worry about what kind of cleats you're going to wear, all the different. Yeah. I remember Greg Olson and I like when he was in Chicago and you know like we locked up at I think it was actually one of their big blocking tight ends but Greg could block too but we we locked up
Starting point is 00:26:34 at the line of scrimmage and I just slid back two yards like my cleats never left in the I was like what is going on it's 2012 or whatever it is but yeah this is not the surface you want to come back and it's not the weather but it was important that he came back and you get these reps and that you show you're confident I mean It's the runs, not his arm. He didn't have to throw a bunch. People were like, yeah, well, they took it easy, 15 throws, whatever. The weather dictated that, maybe the game plan.
Starting point is 00:27:00 What was important was seeing the confidence in his legs. And, you know, like, last year, I think it took a month to get up to 10 carries coming off that injury. Today he had 10 carries. Third and eight backed up before the half, breaks contain, has the deadleg 58. I mean, I think it was Roquan Smith, who can really run. dead legs him goes straight to the sideline 20 yards right
Starting point is 00:27:23 not a gain of 20 but he covers 20 yards he doesn't pick up the first down but it's a little thing that you're like okay he's confident in this thing you know and 21 7 and 3rd it's 3rd and 18 he dies 4 yards short of the the sticks so he shows the confidence he shows like hey I'm going to be smart about it
Starting point is 00:27:43 I'm going to give myself up short of the sticks I know the game situation I know they don't need this and then the backbreaker late in the game. He's still in there. It's 3314 after he runs his ball in, but he does it with his legs. So obviously they're pretty confident in him. And the game plan was jump these guys.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Well, I don't know if that was a game plan, but it worked out that way. The picks, four picks for Indy Dalton, right off the bat throws a pick. Arizona's rolling. Byron Murphy's coming downhill, hitting people, and off Komet's hands. right into Buda Baker's hands.
Starting point is 00:28:20 And this is the funniest part of the game to me. Buda Baker, as he's getting ready to get tackled by Andy Dalton, everybody is thinking, remember the last time he had a long pick on the left sideline that he had a chance to score on? D.K. Metcalfe runs him down.
Starting point is 00:28:34 And that was all about D.K. being an alien, not Buddha being slow. You better believe he wanted to get in the end zone. And by the way, he's never scored a touchdown. And as he's running, about to get tackled by Andy Dalton, the guy calling the game's like one of the fastest guys in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I'm like, no, he's not. Okay, let's be realistic here. Everybody's thinking about the fact that he got hawked last year. But after they blow that game open, they have a James Connor option. They get pressure with everybody. You know, you lose Watt for the season. Chandler Jones is having a really good year. But it's not like he's a one-man show.
Starting point is 00:29:10 You get pressure from everybody. Like seven guys had two pressures. So four picks, one of which late, like I'm talking about these guys, getting pressure. One pick late that damn near sealed the game. Zach Allen, one-handed screen pick. The guy in Atlanta got all the attention because he picked off Tom Brady and scored
Starting point is 00:29:29 a touchdown. This was a big play in this game and the fourth one, the fourth pick turned him into 23 points. So really bad day for Chicago. You know, more of the same for them. And for the bag person, the person in the poncho up in the 400 level that looks Like they're like fucking hurricane correspondent and they can't find the hole.
Starting point is 00:29:52 They can't find the holes in their poncho. That win, man. The windy city. That's a metaphor for the kind of the washing machine that this franchise has been in. Like just trying to get some stability here. It's just been hard. And I think everybody knows they're staring a reset in the face. Do we worry about the Cardinals if they have a home game in the playoffs?
Starting point is 00:30:14 Since they're so good on the road, They're 7 and 0 this year on the road. You know what? That's funny though, because I mean, they've done a good job. You talk about on the road, like they've won on the road. They've won a lot of different ways. They won with a backup quarterback. They beat the Niners with McCoy. They beat the Seahawks with McCoy.
Starting point is 00:30:29 They've blown teams out. They blew the Titans out. They blew Rams out. They blew the Browns out. They've come back. They were down two scores against the Vikings. I was looking at this earlier. They've won in big spots like Green Bay, and they've won outside in the rain.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Like, this team has really one. in a lot of different ways. And Cliff Kingsbury deserves a lot of credit because he's been the common denominator there. The team seems very battle tested. And when it comes down to the end of the season and some of the things you worry about, I feel like the Cardinals have been through it already.
Starting point is 00:31:02 And one of your biggest fears is your starting quarterback going down. But knowing that you have quality wins with your backup, it's something that it's a little less of a feeling, like of a scared or tentative feeling about play calling about what you're doing because you know hey worst case scenario like if we have to put coat back in we have a plan for that it's just buy in dude
Starting point is 00:31:28 you know like it's competency of course but it's also buy in and when we won with nick in 17 you know Nick is a great player but he also trusted and we trusted there were great players around him this is a great football team right like and I'm not saying that in the context of other football teams in different years but i mean this year they're they're like towards the top of the league if they're not the best team in the league so this is going to be a thing where hey if kailer gets dinged again you you've seen that you've won with colt and you have the players to win with him you might be
Starting point is 00:31:58 able to survive in the playoffs for a game without a kiler but you don't want to be there two guys i want to mention from chicago i'll give out the uh st louis mori award to uh to david montgomery this dude bawled out today and he's the only guy that you could go to on that office offense and like being productive being dependable in any weather like quite literally that was him today and he's up in a year so i don't know what they're thinking pay him don't pay him i know barnwell had that article where he was talking about a bunch of guys that that are the highest paid running backs this year i wouldn't pay him if i'm looking at that list but maybe it's important for the next coach to have that guy um that he can kind of hitch his wagon to a little bit david montgomery has been a real bright spot for
Starting point is 00:32:43 this team. And Robert Quinn is top five in the league and sacks. How about that? Top five. How about that? How about that? Where's that girl now? You're very online. Hey, Tampa Bay took care of business today. You know, the other active team
Starting point is 00:33:00 in the NFC that's probably the top three for me. Fake vaccination card affecting the outcome of this football game. Not so much. I mean, it probably affected the way Antonio Brown lists Tampa Bay Buccaneers came in today, but they've been without him for six games this year. So Brady without AB, no big deal.
Starting point is 00:33:20 17 out of 19 first plays, they throw the ball, which is really disrespectful to the Falcons. I mean, to the front, to the coverage, before the half at one point, and by the way, Tom Brady has never lost to the Falcons. Before the half at one point, Tom's interception or touchdown interception ratio was like 27 to 3.
Starting point is 00:33:42 273 before the screen that was picked off. So we had a real chance at 283 career maybe not career yeah career touchdown interception ratio against the Falcons which is incredible that whole thing is getting out of hand there was an eclipse earlier this year
Starting point is 00:33:59 and I found out about it right after we podcasted before Thursday night game it was Patriots Falcons y'all remember this you remember there was an eclipse that night and the eclipse lasted three hours, 28 minutes.
Starting point is 00:34:14 At this point, like, you can't convince me God likes the Falcons. You know, I know that everybody thinks God has favorite football teams because we asked God,
Starting point is 00:34:23 can we please win this game? Like, God's going to choose you. Well, God's not choosing the Falcons, dude. I don't know what it is about the Falcons, but the eclipse going three hours and 28 minutes was overkill. I mean,
Starting point is 00:34:34 that was twisting the knife. And then today, I'm like, damn, are they really going to have this other thing that, sports and NFL on Fox are all going to tweet unanimously. It's a fun number. Here's a fun number. Two and a half seconds for more 16 to 22, 251, three touchdowns. Falcons only hit him four times. Godwin caught 15 balls, dude. And that's the importance of Chris Godwin. Chris Godwin is a guy that
Starting point is 00:34:59 Tom really trusts. You know how like Tom trust gronk? It's like a different kind of trust. Like he's a security blanket for him. If Tom had to throw the ball to one of those receivers with the game on the line, he's going to Godwin. 15 times today. By the way, speaking of Gronk, 90 touchdowns between Gronk and Brady, second all time behind Peyton and Marvin. They have 121. They won't catch him.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Gronk coming on, well, fuck, never say never. I thought Bronc was done a while ago. Grant coming on late, you know, like this year, I feel like he didn't look as healthy early in the year. He was dealing with some injuries. He looks really good right now. And, you know, Gronk was a known commodity this year, but he's coming on late for them. and last year they had like late comers in the fall fornett kind of came on late in the fall
Starting point is 00:35:48 this team will improve the d lines improving they're getting more pressure you worry about the run game i mean cordarro patterson ran through like four tackles on a long run or in the game but that's cordarral patterson okay so but two sacks for both interior guys today vita vea and doming and Sue Sue had two on third down. They were like ranked last in the league or bottom five in the league in third down sacks, which is a bad predictor for success on defense. Like, I said this on Mina Kimes podcast two weeks ago and I feel good about it now.
Starting point is 00:36:24 I said they're going to come on up front. Like because Mina was talking about they haven't been, you know, like where is the past rush in some of these situations? There are slumps. Sacks come in bunches and I think this is a, get-well game for them as was last week they won't look back they'll be better up front and the detackles are picking up the slack only guy i feel bad for here is matt ryan okay i feel bad for matt ryan he looked good moving in the pocket today we'll see what happens next year you know
Starting point is 00:36:55 what i feel bad for i feel bad for whoever bet the spread because yeah that was fucked up at the end of the game russell gage dropped a touchdown which would have covered the 10.5 spread I know, ridiculous. Crazy. Ridiculous. I mean, those are, those are the things you, you slam a door about. Because especially when you kind of feel like, yeah, we're not going to beat them. I would kick the door.
Starting point is 00:37:21 But we're not going to, we can cover this spread. I can be a fan and bet and feel decent about this. Yeah, if you were a Falcons fan and you were like, oh, we're going to cover. That was, you've had a bad Sunday. And I apologize. We'll stop talking about your team. Rams, back on track. question mark. That's what I have in my notes. You should too. No. I mean, they're back on track.
Starting point is 00:37:43 They beat up on the Jags. I'm an idiot. I bet the Jags Taylor, not blaming Taylor, but Taylor looked confident. I was confident. I gave him out on Friday. I don't know how I did this weekend. It's been a blur. Stafford, 11 and 16 against the Blitz. He's like a movie character. Crash Davis, is that his name? No, it's not Crash Davis. It's Jake Taylor. Jake Taylor's the Crash Davis is Bull Durham. Crash Davis is the OG on the team and the guy's hitting the mascot and also he's hitting the... Correct. You know, he's also hitting the older lady too. Right? You've seen Bull Durham? Check that out if you see the Westerns. Major League. That's Jake Taylor. Matt Stafford reminds me of Jake Taylor. He's like the Grizzle veteran hasn't won before. He's out there in
Starting point is 00:38:31 slow motion just getting blown up. Like when I think about Jake Taylor and that I'm thinking about him like legging out that last hit and he just it hurts to run and everything's falling apart like that's Matt Stafford right now but you can't help but respect him I know that he hasn't been great lately he was better today I mean he he got torpedoed today in the chest as he blew up his throwing hand on somebody's helmet they took him to the blue tent they were like is he bleeding out of his ears all right just sending him back out there he's like literally got buddy Lee stuff going you know love the football or not, you love the guy. You can see why Sean McVeigh seems to really have fallen for him and
Starting point is 00:39:11 things have leveled out now. And why Cooper Cup is hanging out with him so much. And, you know, he was filling up the stats sheet. They're back on. They're back on. He had eight catches for 129 and a touchdown. But also, Cooper Cup is the first player in NFL history with at least 100 catches and 10 receiving touchdowns in the team's first 12 games. Definitely the first white guy to do that. Oh, 1,000 percent. Throw that in the stats. For sure.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Hey, Sony, Michelle, good day. Van Jefferson, good day. Two guys are going to need down the stretch. They need the running game addressed. And they need the Robert Woods void addressed. And Odell giveth, O'Dell taketh away because O'Dell had a touchdown, but not not without chicken winging a touchdown
Starting point is 00:40:03 or the other day. Alligator arm. Alligator arm in a big way. In the same spot, he caught that spectacular catch five, six years ago. Man, he was scared of that hit. Hey, listen, man.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Just calling out how I see it. Sometimes we get caught looking bad. But he made up for it later. He had a touchdown later. You know, he didn't want to be in the hospital next to Matt Stafford. Matt Stafford has he's got broken glass under his feet. He was hit with a baseball bat.
Starting point is 00:40:33 He fell down a three-story flight of stairs. Like all that stuff. This is per Diana Rossini. Like, I love this new game, you know, letting us know people are hurt. We, fuck. Tickpick should be your first choice to buy football tickets because they save fans money by never charging any service fees ever. Visit Tickpick.com.
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Starting point is 00:41:25 I love this division. Second favorite, probably my favorite division. Second favorite division being the NFC North. But the NFC East, man, you've got two big wins in that division today. The Eagles, they were on today. The Eagles were on, dude. And Garner Minshue with that mustache, it's there for the taken. I'm not saying the job's there for taking, but people's adoration of you in Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:41:48 They haven't scored like that in almost a decade, I feel like, in Philly. I don't even know, not almost a decade. I'm exaggerating, but they scored on their first five or six drives. It wasn't since 1978 that the two teams scored three touchdowns consecutively on their first three drives, respectively. That's a fucking mouthful. Okay, but they did all that today. And Gardner Minshu's got to be happy. His stock's up as a guy after this season.
Starting point is 00:42:18 He could join that crowded quarterback carousel. He's playing for paper. I mean, I'm glad he did win because he didn't want to be the only quarterback. to lose for the Eagles against the Jets. The Eagles are 12-0. They're 12-0 versus the Jets all-time. So incredible. Those teams live right down the road from each other.
Starting point is 00:42:44 And in the history of football, a very old game, there hasn't been a Jets win over the Eagles. And I love that streak. This is going to be low-key, one of my favorite records if they keep holding it. And Garner Minchew is etched into the books of history. He's a part of it. so great for he's bouncing around places and just getting these key wins and leaving leaving his mark in different cities.
Starting point is 00:43:06 What awesome situation for him to find a home. I often wondered if he could be the guy somewhere. I don't know. It's just the Jets. But damn it, if they didn't look good distributing that football and just playing within the offense today and checking down when he needed to do that, hitting Dallas Goddard who made Howie Roseman look really good today for a bunch of yards. The first touchdown pass was a great throw by Minshu. Great job buying time all day. He moves really well in the pocket.
Starting point is 00:43:36 And the second one was a great pick concept. They get away with that one. And they're in the end zone a bunch. So good day for the Eagles, gives them a little positivity and gives... It also lets you know that Jalen's not doing well this week. If Jalen's not healthy, you start Minchu, but
Starting point is 00:43:51 Siriani kind of said after the game, I don't know if he meant this week, but Jalen Hertz is a starter, which from that I would glean he's healthy as well. Well, if you want to have Minchew find a permanent home, there's a stat line here. You got Baker Mayfield through 24 games, Gardner Minshu through 24 games. You don't even have to read it.
Starting point is 00:44:15 I know which one's better. 37 touchdowns, 5,500 yards, 11 interceptions. I know I've seen Baker throw. 11 picks this year. 6,100 yards, 26 interceptions. Yeah. Which player is which? I'm taking Gardner Minsh, the first guy.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Yeah. I mean, just because it's something new. If the, I don't want to be overreactive to the Jets win that Minch you put together. And by the way, great job by the 50-50 plan today because the other 50 would be Jalen Hertz. But they executed that game well in Miles Sanders, who hasn't scored a touchdown all year. He's got like 600 yards rushing. He's like, he's had a lot of bad luck. But Minchu, man, you just got to be happy for him.
Starting point is 00:44:57 He's a guy. It kind of, it was tough for me last year to watch Nick Foles lose his job. Well, not last year. Was that last year? No, two years ago. It was tough for me two years ago to watch Nick lose his job. I remember it was my first game actually out of the league. It was first weekend out of the league watching football.
Starting point is 00:45:17 I was at some casino in Atlantic City, and I was doing an appearance, and I was prepping for my first Sunday pod. And I watched Nick Foles and I'm thinking he's really going to take the Jagson next level. He got tattooed like the first play, throwing a touchdown, a beautiful ball to the right sideline by the pylon. And he goes out with a broken collarbone.
Starting point is 00:45:39 And I really wanted him to have a great year. So I was so biased. But you could definitely see why people get excited about Gardner Minshu. He just kind of has that it factor. And he kind of staved off Nick the rest of the season. It was tough to see that. But golly, you see that video of him after the game.
Starting point is 00:45:56 That's a contact sport I was saying, you know, celebrate when Garda Minchu. He definitely looked like he just got into flight school. It was also like a clear thing at the hospital when he just I couldn't tell if he was going to beat his dad up or if he was going to give him a hug and eventually it turned into a hug. So I was really
Starting point is 00:46:12 appreciative of that. But good day overall for Byrds fans. You can figure that quarterback thing out later. I don't even want to have that conversation. But do you think Minchu is still constipated? No, he took a big deuce today because, as we all know, Garner Minshue does not go number two if he's number two. Well, I'll tell you this, man, in preparation for the competition,
Starting point is 00:46:33 I haven't taken a shit in weeks. It's not an option for me. Number two is not an option. Does that make sense? Nothing about that made sense over the summer. Washington football team climbing back in at Hineke. This is the only thing I really want to say about the game. Here's the bonus for him.
Starting point is 00:46:54 He has a clause in his contract where he gets 125K if he plays 60% of snaps and he gets a win. And he's won the last four games. So he's going to have a great. A great Christmas with an extra half a mill. Yeah, quite the windfall. Ooh. I mean, that's why he was so excited. I knew he was, he's a competitor and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:19 But last week in Seattle, it was like you won the Super Bowl. And this week also, like, really hyped. And I'm hyped too. But it does hit different when you hit a bonus, man. And when you hit four bonuses in a row and your team wins and it means the same thing, it's like, fuck, we're going up by Opus won on me. I just hit a parlay for $155 and I'm juiced. But imagine a hundred, a hundred and twenty-five K. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Man. Come on now. Right? Come on now. Every time you win a football game and you only had to score like 17 and 19 points to do it two weeks in a row. I mean, they're doing a good job there.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Scott Turner, who I question, you know, his hiring, quite frankly, on this show, he's fucking doing a good job with the guys he's got. Logan Thomas, who's a tight end, obviously lost for the year. I want to talk about that in a second, but he was a quarterback coming out. McLaurin, third round.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Antonio Gibson, community college wide receiver, Heineke, XFL guy. I read that today. It's like when you really think about it, they've done a good job of identifying talent, taking chances, and making them fit in this offense with a bunch of different quarterbacks, which is tough. And ultimately, everything they're doing is a reflection on Ron Rivera and his leadership. And I do, I feel bad for Fitsy, Fitzgerald, because he thought, we thought this was the year he was going to take a team to the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:48:48 This team might go to the playoffs without him. And he got hurt the first game. Reminds me a little bit of the Nick Foles thing. I thought he was set up to succeed in Jacksonville. And same thing with Fitsy. Logan Thomas had a great touchdown catch. You know, like I hate when people say, you're sitting in a hospital bed in a cast.
Starting point is 00:49:04 I'm a Virginia fan, but good luck on the comeback. You should just care anyways. I was bummed out to see it. But as a guy who's on the other side of a rivalry, and they just kicked our ass in all seriousness. I hope he comes back soon. His story. Tough play.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Tough play and a tough play for people to understand. His story is really cool getting to where he is because he's a really good tight end in this league and he's carved out a really nice name for himself and he was a quarterback coming out. And that's a really rare thing to be able to go from quarterback to a position. And he's done it like at a high low.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Yeah, that's Tito. He's the real Tim Tebow. Yeah, for sure. That's the real Tim Tebow. But this dude got his ACL took out today, and I hate to put it that way. I'm just, that was the action like Yanuk and Gakwe goes to cut him, and we call that a crunch play. Anytime the tight end comes back across the formation to block the defensive end, that's like a crunch play. It's a big collision.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Usually the advantage is to the tight end. He can see who his target is. The defensive end, you have to be like adept and know who's coming to block you and go meet that and read your key. A lot of times you're caught in awkward positions, and a lot of times, tight ends if you're facing them, will cut you straight up, which is part of the game. We know it's part of the game. So what we would do sometimes to combat that is we would try to cut tight ends
Starting point is 00:50:29 to dissuade them from coming across and give them a little trepidation that we feel. It's a face-up cut. It's face-to-face. You know I'm coming, and I'm trying to cut your legs out. I'm going to build a pile. And I'm also going to make you think twice about coming next time and definitely not cutting me because I'll be on the same plane and we'll both be knocked out. And I can remember we used to do this against Seahawks and Luke Wilson was like, what the fuck are y'all doing? Because it's perfectly legal, but they don't take it into account.
Starting point is 00:50:56 And I'm like, yeah, it's not real cool when we do it. William Hayes used to really piss people off doing this. I mean, people were like, not that motherfucker again. But it's a perfectly legal play. It is not a dirty play. it is an answer, in my opinion, to what tight ends do to us. And that's not like a vindictive answer. There is a tactical point to like cutting a blocker if you can get to him early enough
Starting point is 00:51:20 and it's tight enough to the line of scrimmage. Hey, it's a physical game and there's certain plays in this game that we hate to see, but it's part of it. It's part of it and it's going to happen. It's going to keep happening. And it's unfortunate. it and all we can do is hope that he can come back and that wasn't his last play. It can't be dirty if in the same moment you can cut me.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Yeah. It just can't be dirty. I hope he's back. I mean, he's a fucking hell of a player. Dallas schedule Washington, New York, Washington, Cardinals, Eagles. I think Dallas has this division, but this Washington and Eagles race is Kingston. I mean, what are we looking at here? We got to use our exclusive rights to 538.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Yeah, the NFC is kind of muddy. You got basically the five teams you mentioned up top. Matt Nacky. I didn't get that joke for like a whole week, by the way. Really? Yeah. Are you fucking kidding me? Cardinals, Packers, Bucks, Cowboys and Rams all have four losses or less.
Starting point is 00:52:22 And then you have Washington, San Francisco, and the Eagles all sitting there with six wins, buying for two spots. It's a log jam. It's a good old-fashioned NFC's logjam. I feel like the NFC has been the division for quite some time where like it's muddy around seven, eight, nine wins. And it's no different this year. There's going to be a lot of mud. And shout out to my producer at Amazon with NFL films,
Starting point is 00:52:53 Jason Hartilius, who is a Giants fan and he had a tweet today, in two games since the Giants fired Garrett against teams under 500, one touchdown by an offensive lineman, an average of 257 yards of total offense and a coach says they're moving in the right direction years away from being remotely competitive blow it all up. That's one take. That's what Giants fans feel like right now
Starting point is 00:53:17 and I feel like the temperatures as high there as it is almost anywhere. Sequan Barkley's not working out. Daniel Jones is hurt right now but although he's played better, the team hasn't gotten better and quite frankly it's just an uninspiring outfit like they go out, it's fourth and two, It's fourth and three.
Starting point is 00:53:35 It's fourth and four. It's all within four yards of midfield, and they don't go for it. And, you know, you kind of preach an attitude of being aggressive. And I think Joe Judge is a really good dude. And I think he's probably a good head coach, but it's just you've got to be more aggressive than that. In my opinion, and the heat is up there. Newsflash to me, Mike Glennon is 6.8. Somebody said today.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Mike Glennon is 6. I played against him. Yeah, so did I. You won't see, right? He went to NC State. Yep, and his brother, obviously, is Sean and went to tech. Okay, he's a GDH. What goddamn hokey.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Yeah, that's all I'm going to say about the Giants. And by the way, too, another win for the dolphins. And the AFC, we'll get to that in a second. There's like no difference between all the teams. I mean, there's a world of difference, but on the win-loss total, it's not much different. If you're in Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, New Jersey, Tennessee or Virginia, and you haven't yet tried the Winbet app.
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Starting point is 00:55:01 Gambling problem in Arizona, call 1,800 next year. Step in Colorado, Indiana, New Jersey, and Virginia, call 1-800 Gambler, and in Michigan, 1-800-7-1-17. Tennessee, y'all two, 1-8009-9-9-7-8-9. Two dark horses lost today in the NFC. The Niners lost. I should have known. Niner's Russ has owned them in Seattle. That was a trend that kind of got away from me. Russ looked like Russ. Seattle looked like Seattle at times. They got good breaks. There was a lob to lock it. They forced turnovers.
Starting point is 00:55:39 There was a fake punt. It felt very Seattle. Even at one point it was like second and 30. Then it was like third and 20 something. And then they damn near got a fucking roughing call or a personal foul that would have been typical of Seattle. But they found a way to win like kind of a crazy game. They found a way to turn the ball over twice in the low red.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Gerald Everett. First one, he basically was playing hacky sack with the football. I don't know if kids still do that. Remember that? Hackiecky sack, yeah. Stoners. Yeah, I think it was like a little stoner kids. I was pretty decent.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Yeah, I couldn't really do it. Fucking tall, goofy kid. I could get two or three hits. Two or three hits, yeah. Well, Gerald ever got like two or three hits, and the ball went right to a San Francisco 49er. That was a rough game for him. I'll give him the hollow man.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Give him the hollow man. But they won, in spite of that, a fumble on the goal line as well. And Carlos Dunlap made two, really big plays in this game. Dunlap who's been you know like started out like gangbusters in Seattle has kind of had a quieter year and after that Everett interception you know was on him Dunlap came up with the safety you know like that was a big deal in the game and then late the PBU that basically sealed it knocking the pass down in the low red where a rush is great
Starting point is 00:57:02 but you don't want to let up big rush lanes. You have to kind of play volleyball. And who better to play volleyball than damn Carlos Nunlap. He's taller in Mike Glennon. How tall is he? He's about... I mean, he's probably 6'8 and a quarter of Mike Glennon's 6'8. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:19 That motherfucker's tall. How about him and Robert Quinn's same high school? I worked out with Dunlip down in Florida. Yeah, so did I. We worked out together there. Remember that year. We went to a little Duval show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Me and Dunlap. That was a lot of fun. Duval, shout out. But yeah, they lost, and I don't know. I don't know what happens with the Niners now. The problem with the Niners is this. They've been swept in division by the Cardinals and Seahawks. I keep talking about how dangerous they are,
Starting point is 00:57:46 but they won't get there on a regular basis if they can't figure that out. You know, they can't just own the Rams. Seattle has Texans, Bears, Lions, Cardinals, Rams. Five straight, that would help. Matt Nackie. They're going to get in if they win five straight. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Yeah, it's unclear. the NFC, but there's a possibility that eight wins could get somebody in, so it's hard to rate anybody off right now. Which is bad in a 16 game season. This is ridiculous. When you think about teams historically, the Beastquake,
Starting point is 00:58:15 Seahawks, who we let in the playoffs. I think that year we lost to Charlie Whitehurst, and we let them in the playoffs, and then they ran over all the Saints in Seattle, and everybody remembers that. Usually though, these teams don't go far. nine or seven seed
Starting point is 00:58:31 Texans and Falcons on the schedule Bengals, Rams, Titans so some ups and downs they couldn't get the run game going today when you can't get the run game going I don't know what you do with Jimmy it just depends and listen
Starting point is 00:58:43 the game of the week for me before we finish with the AFC and the mess that is is the lions man the lion's got to win there's a bit here where everybody likes to cheer the lions on
Starting point is 00:58:58 root them across finish line. And in one way, I'm sad that's over. Because now people aren't going to care as much. They win their second game. They're going to be like, hey, not too much now. You know what that is? What's that? Life alert. Life alert. Again, for the people in Minnesota. Yep, life alert.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Another game of losing three points or less. Yep. And on top of it to a team that has no wins, you give them their first win of the season. That's really good. Impressive. So anyways, I just, like, it's another heartbreak and loss for the Vikings, but for the Lions, now if you win another game, people are going to be like, hey, a little too much winning now. You've got to think about the draft. But you know, Lions, if you start winning more games, people are going to, they're going to be over it.
Starting point is 00:59:57 I'm just, this is the way it goes. I've been there. Good for them. I've been on a team that won one in 15. Ironically, we got our win in Detroit. We needed a fake field goal to Danny Fells. to beat the Lions. And it's hard, man.
Starting point is 01:00:09 It is a grind. It wears you out. It's a strain on your mental health losing that many football games in the NFL. Reggie Scott used to have, he's a trainer in L.A. now still, but he was in St. Louis, and he used to have a picture that hung in his office,
Starting point is 01:00:25 at least during the Spag's tenure. I'm sure it's not there anymore. But it was a picture of all of us on a knee praying in Detroit after the game. Like, thanking God for giving us the nod that weekend. And I always used to think, like, did we fuck up the prayer of the other 15 weeks? Not to, like, you know, like, being on a 115 team,
Starting point is 01:00:43 we'll convince you that nobody upstairs cares about football. Like, it's like, no, a benevolent ruler would not put anybody through this strain. It's really tough. And I'm really just happy for the lions and I'm happy for Dan Campbell, because the thing I was talking about earlier with Brian Kelly and different coaches,
Starting point is 01:01:01 they exist on a spectrum of being good people or people you can hang your hat on. And this guy, Dan, might fail here, but he's a good guy. He is a good guy. He cares about his players. And the fourth and one call was terrible. I hated it backed up. I'm not saying that was Dan's call.
Starting point is 01:01:19 What did I say to read? Reid, what did I say to you? You said golf, don't turn your back on... I said, don't give... Don't put golf in a situation as we were watching on the live stream. By the way, I had the Lions 18 ways. And the key here is the Vikings lost. So this was the biggest swing.
Starting point is 01:01:35 game for me in their win total. This was an astronomical win today, as was the Chargers win. Those are the two totals I'm sweating. But I said don't on fourth and one backed up with a chance to seal this game two minutes to go. The balls on them to go for it. I get that part of it. In fact,
Starting point is 01:01:53 I thought that was the right call, but don't have the guy that you're not sure about, turn his back to defense. And sure enough, it ends in not only turnover on downs, but a turnover turnover, which was ugly. If you'd have told me that when the Vikings got the ball under two minutes, they would score a touchdown and then the lines would answer it with one of their own.
Starting point is 01:02:14 I'd have said you were crazy. I mean, it took a third and 11 where the back caught the ball at the 50 and ran out of bounds. Somehow it took 14, was dog tired. St. Brown, that's his name. He was dog tired. He tapped out and I go, read. After one of the plays, he tapped his helmet. You know, like come get me in a two minute.
Starting point is 01:02:32 I'm like, buddy, the game's on the line and my money, dude. and then next thing you know this guy catches the game winner and I totally get why he took himself out of the game. He needed a rest and they always say like if you're too tired, tap out and go, I'm glad he tapped out and he got a little gas in the tank to go get it
Starting point is 01:02:49 and a bad defense on the last play. That was one of the, if you were talking about this game, you were talking about that defense. One in 16 is a lot better than one in 017 because O'N 17, nobody's thinking about this. It's never been done, obviously. and you know like that would have been tough to match exponentially harder than no in 16 you know how the 72 dolphins pop champagne whenever the last undefeated team goes down
Starting point is 01:03:16 what do you think the 08 lions and 17 Browns do when the last team gets a win do they like they go to like a group and talk about their feelings I feel like that shit just doesn't wash off. Yeah, it just doesn't. I can remember in college watching our locker room. I've said this on this pod before. Greg Camarillo scored a touchdown for the Dolphins circa 08 or whenever they were
Starting point is 01:03:41 almost so in 16. It was like a walk off and they weren't supposed to win the game and it was at the end of the season. It was the thing that kept them from joining that really unfortunate club. So it's great for them and for the Vikings it's even better because I have a real shot at cashing in this bet now.
Starting point is 01:03:57 And the Vikings lost to me is so backbreaking that it reminds me one of those like when Jeff Fisher was there and we couldn't get over the hump and we had bad quarterback play because guys were hurt and it was no fault of fishes but we just couldn't get over the fucking hump and some of those losses where you should have won late in the year and you have a run of bad performances the quiet in one of those locker rooms you know the losses like that I'm talking about they're different where everyone's sitting in the locker and like you know the team's going to have to bring it up to talk to the coach and every Everyone's kind of lagging around. But what the fuck are we going to say, dude? There is nothing to say it's over. And everybody knows it. Unfortunately, Matt and Acky, they're not eliminated. And that's the problem is like, you go to work.
Starting point is 01:04:42 It's fucking weird. You're like, when you decide as a team that you don't deserve to be in there, like that's a feeling that you never forget. There were times in 2018 with the Eagles. We lost a game to Tennessee that was abhorrent. And I had a bad play late. Me and Michael Bennett had a bad play late on like a third and something. thing, third and long, where we let Tannahill scramble out and there was a big disagreement
Starting point is 01:05:04 on the sidelines. And, you know, we had championship DNA as a team, so we were able to recoup, but after a game like that, you feel like it's over. You know, like most teams fold. And I think this is a Vikings team that probably folds because they lost stealing today, too. They're down a million guys. Guys, just give up. It's warm. Just let go. Just start to feel warm. Are you shooting the cannons off for them? I don't want to do that. I don't want to tempt fate. And the last thing we got done doing
Starting point is 01:05:32 was sorting out this AFC mess. I'll give the fly on the wall. Like we watched the Baltimore in Pittsburgh game in that sporadic, crazy, hectic, 4 p.m. slate. Fly on the wall, I'm going to give it to Miles Garrett because he's sitting at home
Starting point is 01:05:46 and he's watching T.J. Watt. He wants to be a defense player of the year. He's got 14 sacks. T.J. Watt now has a two or three sack lead on him. T.J. played his ass off. Three and a half sacks. Six his. It's 12 pressures.
Starting point is 01:05:59 These are ungodly numbers. I think it's a two-man race for this award. We talked about digs early in the season. Streaky turnover guys, like it cools. And eventually you're like, for you to pick the balls off, he's picked off, it's incredible. Yeah. But there's a different kind of dominance
Starting point is 01:06:18 when it comes to a defensive lineman or a pass rush or taking over a game. And that's what these two guys do. And so I'll give TJ the game ball because watching his, the veins, his neck pop out, screaming at the top of his lungs, with a million terrible towels in the background, that's football to me. Like, that's fourth quarter, division rivalry, you're cornered.
Starting point is 01:06:42 That makes my hair stand on end, getting opportunities on third down to go fucking make a big play. That's what being clutch is about, and T.J. Watt is clutch. He showed up when his team needed it, and that's why he's in contention for that award. And by the way, Beville Conway, let's go into Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Just the association of that rivalry, to me, I get a little excited. Even though Pittsburgh, the defense up front, they still kick ass in a lot of ways. But it's just not as scary anymore.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Mark Andrews was bobbling a ball, and he ended up short of the sticks by two yards and was fighting, like carrying a little tackler. And there were three guys, you knew they were coming to crack him. And you just weren't afraid of what that sound would be. Just the back end, it used to be so dangerous. It was like a highway, dude. Yeah, it was like watching a dog on a highway. Like, you're like, oh, fuck.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Like, a guy is definitely going over the middle. You should swarm a lot. Yeah, and the rivalry still, it's hateful, right? Like, Devante Freeman just got there, but he ran over, he was out of bounds and ran ended up on the bench and Benny Snells sitting there right next to him. And usually, you know, a guy goes out of bounds and falls into somebody's bench. They all, like, pat him on the butt and, like, say, like, go back in there, like, whatever, like, good run maybe, or they get out of the way.
Starting point is 01:07:56 like nobody reacted. Benny Snell just looked at him. What fuck are you doing here? And then like there was some guy that was like, do I help him? Do I not help him? It's not a friendly rivalry. And the Ravens are in a situation now
Starting point is 01:08:09 where they have to win games because their schedule's so tough and the secrets out. They're not that good. Lamar's carried them and their running backs are banged up so the play action's not there. There's even more pressure on Lamar.
Starting point is 01:08:23 It's getting to be too much. It really is. And the throws today he was off on. I mean, the pick in the end zone third and four, you know, they circled it through the ball to Freeman late. Mark Andrews is there. He's off target in general today. He's going to have those days.
Starting point is 01:08:39 He also gives you a chance when the offense breaks down. But they have failed to build around him. And just a couple injuries should not tank a Super Bowl championship aspiration type team. That's why they're not, to me, a Super Bowl team. But in the AFC right now, who really is? Every team has four losses. They have four losses. The Ravens now have four losses, right?
Starting point is 01:09:05 61 points, though, they scored in the last four games. So that run game, if it's not right... Four or more losses. I'm sorry. Yeah, four or more losses. Yeah, right. Everybody's got four or more losses. So it is wide open, but the quality of this team,
Starting point is 01:09:19 I don't see them going toe-to-to-to-consecutively, week in and week out with the teams that they're going to need to beat. to go play in a Super Bowl. No, I agree. Like we said before, like the teams are, it's about how they're trending. And a lot of teams are trending the wrong way
Starting point is 01:09:34 versus getting quality wins and showing that you're improving on things that you need to. No question. At this point in the season, and the Ravens keep showing us the little things that they can't overcome. Well, they overcame like a million turnovers last week.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Their luck is running out. That's what's happening. Like early in the year, they had a lot of luck. They won close games. They're not winning their close games. And Baltimore reminds Tony Dungey of Pittsburgh. You said that after the game last year.
Starting point is 01:10:04 And I kind of get that because, you know, while I think Pittsburgh held on convincing me that they were a good football team longer than Baltimore did this year, Pittsburgh faded down the stretch because they had some real deficiencies that were going to be hard to fix on the roster. I mean, there's just not a lot you can do to fix some of these things. And the decision.
Starting point is 01:10:22 I mean, that's what everybody's talking about. Two-point conversion. to win the game. Harbaugh puts up his hand. He doesn't even check with Lamar. I'm sure he checked with Lamar. I mean, but jokingly, I mean, he took it right out of his pocket. I mean, it was like he had it on his hip. And he says after the game that it had to do with the fact that their corners were down to a nub, right?
Starting point is 01:10:40 Like, Marlon Humphrey's out. It's a big loss, but he hasn't played well this year. You go into overtime, he's worried about the corners. I totally get it. But if you're talking about scoring touchdowns and that sort of thing, I look at it and say, if you have to score a touchdown with the Ravens in overtime, they weren't great in the red zone today.
Starting point is 01:11:00 So there's a few reasons that you could point to. They were 2 of 5 in the red zone today. I don't believe in the injuries so much. I think you're on the road. I think that's who you are. I think it's in your blood. I think it's in your team's DNA. And part of like a team believing
Starting point is 01:11:15 and having that chance taking attitude, that gambling attitude that makes teams great, to go back to Doug Peterson. or like when I was with the Eagles we thought we could be great because we took chances. Part of the attitude was like fuck it. And so sometimes when the game's online, you got to take those chances just to exist in that identity.
Starting point is 01:11:36 That's who they are. The play was there and Lamar missed the throw a little bit and Andrews kind of slowed up, but T.J. Watt affected that throw. I'll make it about T.J. Watt as much as anything. And that's the difference in the game. And maybe the difference in the number one seed. I don't think they're going to pick up a lot of wins after this.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Browns, Packers, Bengals, Rams, Steelers. Football is the greatest reality show every single week because it's so great to think about just a few inches and we will be having a different conversation here right now talking about how big Harbo's balls are to go for it and them throwing a two-point conversion and all this stuff and off the fingertips and it's a whole different story. A whole different story.
Starting point is 01:12:19 We're talking about how clutch the Ravens are and how they survive all the... But that's the thing. You live dangerously and eventually catches up to you and that's what's happening in them right now. So, AFC, number one seed, got eight wins.
Starting point is 01:12:31 I mean, there's Kansas City at eight wins right now. There's the Patriots at eight wins right now. The Titans with eight wins right now, which doesn't even feel real because their entire identity is out for the foreseeable future. They've lost convincingly lately.
Starting point is 01:12:50 But like you call them, All the time, they're cockroaches, and they're hard to kill. And they're hard to kill. But they're definitely different than the other two teams with eight wins right now that people are respecting his contenders, the Pats and the Chiefs who just won Madnacki. It's going to be a sad day when we have to ring the horn for the Tennessee Titans. That will be sad. I think it's going to be the playoffs because they're cockroaches.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Yeah, so unlike in the NFC where our team is probably likely to get through with a record of eight and nine, in the AFC, it's a pretty good chance that it's going to take a record of 10 and 7 to get in. So right now you got the Chargers and Bengals at 7 and 5 and the Colts at 7 and 6 kind of on the fringe. There's three teams without six wins in the FACC. Like the Dolphins and the Patriots are two games apart. Insanity, actually, to think about. Put the dolphins in the NFC and the Miami Herald would run an article about how they're going to win the Super Bowl. Yeah, Miami Herald, if they were in the NFC, would have already had the parade and sponsored it.
Starting point is 01:13:49 and they might be writing an article about us soon because we killed them last week and they won again. But like there's three teams without six wins. Jets, Texans, Jags. Tennessee and Baltimore have eight wins, but I don't take them seriously right now. You know, and one team it's because of the injuries and the other team is because of the injuries,
Starting point is 01:14:06 but also because I don't think they were that good even to start the season. Their fucking injury report looked like a band t-shirt. It looked like if you just zoomed out and relax your eyes, there were so many names on there. I thought they were playing in Spokane. I thought injury report, was playing in Spokane.
Starting point is 01:14:22 Well, they like heavy metal and there should be a band called Injury Report and they should use the same font and do a poster because it looked just like it. The thing was it was a thick with two C's injury report. And
Starting point is 01:14:35 yeah, these teams are banged up. So I wrote this at 823 at the kickoff of Kansas City game. My three best teams in the AFC are the Pats, the Chiefs, and the Colts in no particular order. And the bills and the Chargers are on the outside looking in there.
Starting point is 01:14:51 And some people are saying, what about the Ravens? I just told you. The Colts scare the Pats. In my opinion, I'm not saying, I'm not speaking for the Pats, but if I'm the Cults concern me. If I'm the Chiefs, the Pats concern me. And if I'm anybody, the Chiefs scare me. And I think the Chargers scare corners.
Starting point is 01:15:09 So, like, everybody's scared of somebody in the AFC, and I'm not sure who's afraid of the bills, but we'll find out tomorrow night. This is a tailor-made opportunity for them to regain the state. that they've lost. You know, it's kind of, the NFL is kind of the opposite of, you know,
Starting point is 01:15:26 thousand bridges, like you burn a bridge and your bridge burner. You could be asked the entire season, but a nicely placed Monday night game against the hottest team in the league and you beat them. Everybody's going to forget about that Colts game. Everybody's going to forget about
Starting point is 01:15:39 everything you've done all year, how you've not run the ball, Josh Allen having a quietly down year. Whenever have you done for me lately? Yeah, it's an interesting deal. And that's the excitement of the NFL. And they're in it.
Starting point is 01:15:52 Like they're right in the AFC. I've thought at times this year, like early in the year, they could win the Super Bowl. I mean, they could go a long way proving tomorrow night that they're for real. So the game's in Buffalo, which is another reason not to bet the bills really because the paths have owned them there. I mean, it's like everything about this thing. The turnovers, Josh Allen. The only question mark is big game, rookie in the rain. Oh, yeah, he played pretty solid against Tampa Bay.
Starting point is 01:16:19 was like feels like a lifetime ago so this is going to be an interesting game and the one thing the pats don't do well stopping the run the bills can't do so stavius whites down it's weird it's hey i i had an idea a business idea maybe we should go to buffalo and we should be table sellers we should sell tables there are no business ideas in this studio after one a m like think about that they they buy tables to jump through and break weekly don't you think somebody's already been like Hey, there's a market here for tables. There's probably a table store right outside the stadium. They just sell tables.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Think about that. One of those strip malls right there, there's a fucking plastic table store. We would move up to Buffalo, unpack our suitcase, and we'd be the laughing stock of the town. So there's two things you propose for me in Buffalo. First, we go up to Buffalo. And what was it? What was it? It had something to do with injuring people.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Oh, no, it was the table. It was a table thing. We were going to get, but we were, no, we were going to get tables that don't break and break. That's sadistic. No, it's one business. We're going to have the reverse table. You're trying to break into, you're an outsider trying to break into their number one industry outside of bars. I'm actually not.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Bars with no windows. I'm from the state of New York. So I'm actually not an outsider. Well, yeah, but if you come in there and try to break up their table selling industry and throwing them through tables that don't break. you're going to be public enemy number one buddy well some guy in a carhart vest is going to look what fuck I'm wearing a car heart vest
Starting point is 01:17:57 all right Matt Nacky what you got I mean tough two games coming up for the bills they got Patriots and then at Tampa if both of those games don't go well they're sitting seven and six but they have an opportunity to be like hey look at us yes
Starting point is 01:18:12 you know what I mean like they if they if they find a way to rattle off these two wins bro it's going to be It's going to be Buffalo to the Super Bowl. You know how this thing goes? I didn't write the rules. Changed every week. I change all the time.
Starting point is 01:18:25 It's because teams change. Chargers, giant, enormous win. Bengals loss, probably equally enormous. Yeah, what you got, Matt?
Starting point is 01:18:36 I mean, both those teams are now sitting at seven and five, so that was a huge inflection point on the season for both of them. What's the math? Do we have a math situation there? We do. We have the Bengals at 42. 2% to make the playoffs
Starting point is 01:18:50 and the chargers surge to 77%. That's what the chargers do. They surge. Electricity. Both 7 and 5, we had a Bengals wedding today. We had a Dolphins wedding today. By the way, I didn't mention that earlier. Somebody got engaged at the half of the Dolphins game.
Starting point is 01:19:05 They broke a streak where they were 0 and 3. They were 0 in 3, I believe, Reed. O and 3 when somebody got married at a Dolphins game. Now they're 1 in 3. Okay. And I told it to you. Those marriages are over. for three so far and
Starting point is 01:19:20 I'm hoping that something changes for the fourth couple. Like generally, if you get married at a stadium, I don't know. Does that raise your chances or lower your chances? Half of marriages end in divorce. I got to imagine that
Starting point is 01:19:35 three quarters of stadium marriages end in divorce. Is that insensitive? If you know somebody who got married at a stadium and is doing well, write us. But somebody got married at a Bengals wedding, which I feel like actually a Bengals wedding would go, I feel like a Bengals wedding ends better than a Miami Dolphins wedding because again, I'm sorry guys. You're lovable, but I have no idea. We've got to do like a
Starting point is 01:19:59 personality disorder test on you guys. Not only are you rooting for the dolphins, you're getting married at their games. Where'd you get married? The Hard Rock Stadium at half time. It was a quarterback stool between Tua, Tawa, and Mike Glennon. Tua's 510 Mike Glennon. Tua. It was five, ten, Mike Glenn 6-8 weirdest game on Sunday. But anyways Wah-hu-Waw. Fucking, the Chargers were not playing games. The Chargers were not going to the jungle and getting
Starting point is 01:20:29 jumped here. They were afraid of Joe Mixing. With good reason, like, everybody I talked to, everybody that knew something about football, my read on it was, damn, I should damn near hedge this and bet the Bengals because the Chargers are going to lose
Starting point is 01:20:45 this football game and I'm going to lose that overwin total. well, they jumped them and they never had to deal with Joe Mixing. You get a two, three touchdown lead early in the game. I think it was like 23-0-0-0-0-0-3-0-0. Throw that run game out the window. Yeah, throw that run game out the window. So what it was, Herbert was mad, dude.
Starting point is 01:21:05 Don't get Herbert mad. He starts going for the jugular. Chargers, you know, they were due. They went back and forth the last six games. Win, loss, win, loss, win, loss. They're still the chargers, man. They're just a new and improved chargers. Third and seven, I mean, he just rips a ball to Parham for 50 for no reason.
Starting point is 01:21:25 Basically he throws a Hail Mary because he's just like, fuck, I want to win this game. I want to throw the ball far. Like, Parham should have caught the ball. It went right through his hands. I mean, earlier, he goes to Mike Williams for 47. A lot of the CBS crew is yelling. You know, like, I want that CBS crew doing Justin Herbert games all the time because it's just a lot of shit that makes you yell. Some of the throws that he made early in the game were unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:21:54 Most impressive thing to me, though, is the tackle. Oh, yeah, his tackle. The tackle he made on the pick that he threw. But just like you said, that, ah, I just want to throw this ball. When he threw that pick, it was when he went for that tackle, he had his mind made up that this dude is not scoring a touchdown off of this interception. Listen, those two quarterbacks have balls Because last week Joe Burrow tried to beat a guy up
Starting point is 01:22:22 He has no business trying to beat up After a pick, T.J. Watt And then this week, Justin Herbert found a way to run down an interception, use the sideline and get his head across. There are corners who don't make that tackle. Like, I don't see that tackle made with that effectiveness. He made quarterbacks.
Starting point is 01:22:39 I think all the quarterbacks should thank him because he made you guys all look good. Or he made them all look bad because then later you got Teddy Bridgewell trying to tackle in that game. We'll get to that in a second. At least you tried this week. The old line was hurting for Sinci.
Starting point is 01:22:53 They're young guys who were replacing guys. Penalties early. They were backed up. It was third and long. They got jumped. Jamar Chase, two drops, pick early on him. You know, Burrow was mad. That finger, that pinky is important.
Starting point is 01:23:07 I get it. Like, he's frustrated. And he came out and threw the ball pretty well. The throw to Boyd on third and three, like over, I forget who it was, but he just floated that thing in there. It looked fine. stood in there, got blasted, throwing the ball to Boyd, like took one in the sternum.
Starting point is 01:23:23 Just a tough guy, man. Tough, just angry when it's not going well, but not in a self-destructive way, in a way that he really channels that shit. And they damn near made a run. He was so mad on fourth and four at the end of the half when he's trying to figure out if they want to get a playoff or not. He just walks off and is like, fuck, like, what is going on now?
Starting point is 01:23:43 That's how bad they were playing in the first half. unforgivable issue for them though was the fumble you can do all those things and joe can put you back in the game but when you fumble that football and you give up a return for touchdown totally swings the game killed the momentum and that was it and on the other side eckler rare couple fumbles they survived those are you worried at all about joe burrow's finger injury i am a little worried about it uh because fingers it's such an exact science you like you want that thing to heal in the perfect shape I have a few fingers that didn't heal in the perfect shape. And because I was a delim and I wasn't worried about my fine motor skills.
Starting point is 01:24:23 Now, like, I drop things all the time. Like, I have a fused thumb. That's something that, like, it just happened. I have a plate in my hand. But I have a bunch of, like, fingers that are, like, slightly off and they're, like, all bent up. That makes it hard to grip a football if it doesn't heal right. So I know it's, like, supposedly a dislocation. The swelling can make things heal kind of funky.
Starting point is 01:24:45 You got to keep that down. you got to keep it straight. It's got to heal in the right position. Yeah, it's not going to be like a Russell Wilson situation, but he's just got to like stay on top of that. I'm sure. Definitely got to stay on top of it, especially coming to the end of the season
Starting point is 01:24:58 where it's getting cold. These games are going to start being colder. That finger being stiff. It's more about even if you get the treatment that you, that you need and the finger feels are right, what's going to happen in game, like after halftime, not moving it, and all those type of things.
Starting point is 01:25:17 So it'll be interesting to watch that here coming in the later weeks. Yeah, no, I mean, they're not out of it. And again, Trey Hendrickson, Rishon Slater, people aren't beating him. He had a sack today, at least one that I saw. He just continues to impress even me. I'm like, damn, this kid's just like even better than I thought every week. And I've already called him a great rusher. That's a nice pelt on the wall there to beat that rookie
Starting point is 01:25:44 because that rookie's been playing really well. Lastly, the chiefs, listen, the chiefs saved my bacon today. They were my knight in shining armor. They were my Rapunzel. I think I was the princess and the pee, all that shit. I was chasing, and they saved me. It was a fairy tale. I bet them a million ways.
Starting point is 01:26:03 I bet the under a million ways, and it worked to perfection. A lot of people were saying, hey, the Broncos. Might want to think about them. Nah. Right, Reid? Go Broncos, forever. never no ways. Yeah, but also not quite the vote of confidence because you got a brain.
Starting point is 01:26:19 You've seen the way the Broncos have played. You've watched a lot of it up close. When they play the Chiefs, they don't play well. And tonight, man, they had their chances. But that defense for Kansas City has played really well the last month or so. And that's bad news for everybody else because they don't have to 100% figure out the offense if they play like that defensively. Now the one thing that they haven't figured out, that receiver.
Starting point is 01:26:42 Who's the guy that he can trust? A couple drops today. And as you pointed out, Nate, made up for it on special teams. He was about to be our hollow man. He might have been a hollow man if things had changed differently. And he saved the day by pushing a Broncos defender into his own returner and causing a turnover. Yep, yep, dropped a few balls. You know, Tyreek dropped a few balls.
Starting point is 01:27:05 Let's not forget about that. Like, it was a windy night. Things were off. You know, they had to commit to the run game. Two very good running backs in this game. Williams is a total. fucking stud. He falls, he sneezes for three yards, dude. Like, he just, he's
Starting point is 01:27:18 really hard to wrap up and tackle. You can tell he's a powerful guy. But the Chiefs, man, the Chiefs, they got the job done. And I don't know, if they can figure out how to use Josh Gordon and they find a way to win a Super Bowl because of him becoming a viable
Starting point is 01:27:34 option, that 30 for 30 would be great. Oh my God, dude. Unbelievable. And I want to give Sorensen the OA Award because a guy that looks like a 30 something year old white guy with the receding hair line and he he high stepped in the end zone and guaranteed a cover for me and and when he picks the ball off at the the 40 yard line nobody's thinking sorensen's going to the house but he can really run so I'm giving him the OA award you know
Starting point is 01:27:59 to just made that just even perfect if he would have got into the end zone and did the gritty if he did the gritty yeah which is the thing everybody's doing with the arms and the legs I'm pretty sure I'm not going to say I'm pretty sure he can't do it but if he did do it it would have been very impressive. Well, if he could have done the swag that he did, whatever he did, I've never seen it before. So it's swagging. I did not know Sorensen had swag.
Starting point is 01:28:22 I got to talk to my brother about that. That was incredible. That's something that he's probably done in practice a million times. You know, you get practice interceptions and things like that. Yeah. And maybe you really just think about it and you're like, yo, if it happens, I'm going to do this. That was a heavy high step.
Starting point is 01:28:37 But those guys stepped up on defense and I'll keep it short on the chiefs. Chiefs are scary and they're in it. And, you know, they get a guy named Kyle Longback eventually. And it's more depth on that offensive line. And I don't know. I'm excited. I'm excited for my brother speaking honestly. Because there was a time where I was like, damn, like, they're not that good this year.
Starting point is 01:28:58 Okay. They seem back. I'm pretty excited. Hey, I didn't do best plane ride and worst plane ride. I'll do it right now. Best plane ride was the Philadelphia Eagles. The Philadelphia Eagles, because they're on a bus. And when you're on a bus, after a football,
Starting point is 01:29:13 ball game it's the best thing in the world dude best thing in the world in college we used to fill up gatorade bottles with aristocrat vodka we had uh i had gummies and and and nice liquor expensive liquor try to get that triple seat row you know the one by the bathroom that was my row i've been i've been on one of those rides and stuck with like a sitting partner and been miserable oh man if you're the guy that has to sit next like jordan maillotta like jordan my lota sitting in some row and like you know he's probably just death staring every motherfucker that walks back there. It always be the last guy on the bus,
Starting point is 01:29:46 like the sports information director or like the media guy that's like, can I sit here? And I was like the smallest de lineman and also a nice guy so I usually tried to. But if I was Jordan Milata, no way, you're sitting next to me. No way, nobody. I got my own row stretching out. Worst plane ride.
Starting point is 01:30:03 I'll go jags because that's a long plane ride to go get your ass kick like that. And they have not figured. out a way to start fast, like on the year. It's ugly. Was that the bad plane ride, Reed? That was a bad plane ride. We also had the Vikings.
Starting point is 01:30:19 The Vikings. The Vikings is pretty bad, too. If you take Jacksonville, they also had to watch Gardner and Minchu shred the Jets defense. That was the brilliant point that you made. It was like at the end of that game, they're probably watching Minchu, who was just there, do something that the second coming can't do for them. It's incredible. He was just here.
Starting point is 01:30:39 someone's going to do the someone's going to put the meme and when it's like the wolverine and he's holding a picture and they're looking at the wolverine picture meme yeah and it's it's going to be like the jaggs and they're looking at garner mitchie i hate is that what that meme means it's just kind of like he misses somebody yeah really i think so it's so funny how many times i've looked at that meme and been like that's probably funny it's like you're sitting in your bed and you're just like you know what being old is and i'll end the show on this being old is looking at meme and laughing and not understanding them and being like, I know that's funny.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Quick. My cause, my cleats. What would your be? Oh, mine? Well, obviously, water boys, but I think the question was framed jokingly earlier. And Reed had like a serious charity on the live stream. What was it?
Starting point is 01:31:27 Save our winners. And I was like, oh, that's nice you to protect all my bets. Like, that would be your cause. So I stopped losing bets around you every Sunday. It has nothing to do with that. So shout out to, project our winner.
Starting point is 01:31:40 Mines would be Project Come Out. Shout out to Project Come Up. It is a mentorship program with the mission to increase the financial literacy of young black and brown adults. I love this. There you go. I love this. I didn't have a serious... Mine would be the
Starting point is 01:31:55 Steve Gleason Foundation, man. If I'm not going to do a, you know, like a homie pick and say Water Boys or Ed's own thing, one of my heroes, man. I love that dude. You got a chance to know him a little bit. You know, the tail end of my career. In fact, my last game I think I met Steve for the first time
Starting point is 01:32:11 or no, it was the game we got beat 44 to 7 second to last game in the Superdome in my last year. I got a chance to meet Steve, got a chance to meet his family, got a chance to go up D.C. to see him get that medal. And what he's done in a community that oftentimes hasn't had hope,
Starting point is 01:32:30 like the hope that he's given people not just because of the research that he's been able to fund and the things, the technologies that he's been able to advance the ball on, but also the strength and the intestinal fortitude that he has every day
Starting point is 01:32:43 also inspires people. So not only does he move the ball forward, but he inspires people. I'm putting fucking Steve Gleason on my cleats. I already got the jersey back here. The whole thing, I had a hat. He sent a hat there. Foundation has awesome hats too.
Starting point is 01:32:57 No white flags. Jersey, that jersey is lit. White flag on this pod, though. Why is that? Because it's fucking late. Let's go to bed. Oh. Hey, we put that working.
Starting point is 01:33:08 ball for one day. Hey, is in the boron. Yeah, it is. Hey, wahoo-wah, whatever happens this week. Wah-Hua, guys. Yeah, I got, yeah, that's all I got to say.

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