Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Week 15 Recap. Eagles/Wentz. Jets Win. Chiefs/Saints. Playoff Picture with ESPN's Stanford Steve.

Episode Date: December 21, 2020

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Brady in the second half. Oh my goodness. It was like a totally different team. And today he was like, he had those great white shark eyes. He had those dead eyes on steroids. Like looking into Tom's soul today, it was like, it was very apparent that there's just no empathy left. He just, he just wants this bad.

He just, he just wants he's in kill mode. Happy Monday morning, everybody. This is Chris Long. I'm your host and you are listening to the Greenlight Pod. straight to the point today. Got a heavy stacked up week for you. So I'm going to move fast tonight. In short, I'm going to talk to Stanford Steve.

I already did. We hit a bunch of stuff. We had three questions for each other and a lot of sidebars. Games we hit, Kansas City and New Orleans, of course, Washington and Seattle. We talk a little bit about the Miami and New England game. And we talk about who is the worst quarterback that started a game this week. the NFC team that we trust the most in the playoffs and the AFC team that you trust the least, as well as some other topics.

Oh, Jets Rams, Rams, we hit that as well. Rams fans always complain that we don't talk about the Rams. Can't say that and do you any favors. But we made it more about the Jets, so you'll be happy about that. So Stanford Steve in a couple minutes, but first, explaining my big week, it's Christmas week, right? It's insane. This year is at the same time. I'm, you know, it's flown by and just crept by.

Um, but here we are. And like many of you, I don't want to spend Christmas working. My family don't want me to spend Christmas working. I guess Friday is, uh, Christmas day. Yeah, Cowboy Reed, is that right? That's right. Cowboy Reed's got a calendar. Uh, I don't.

Friday is Christmas day. So my co-host and I don't want to be working then. Usually we record Thursday night. That would be Christmas Eve. Uh, not, So cute when my kids ask me, you're doing a podcast and it's Christmas Eve. We're going to record Wednesday. That'll be fun as it always is.

That will drop Friday. Tomorrow, I'm getting to work on a very special podcast I have for y'all dropping Wednesday. I have a friend named Giovanni Hamilton. He is from Philly. He is a 13-year-old and he has a successful podcast. He also has a rare muscle condition named Schwartz Jample. It is something that he, he battled. with and he has some surgeries that he has to have. Eagles fans are always behind him. He's kind of a

fan favorite. He used to come to practice and now he's got a podcast over at Eagles Brawl. It's called Philly Sports with Giovanni. It's really good. I was on it this year and he's a very good interviewer and he had a lot of great guests this year. And it's a lot of Philly type people that have been on his podcast. But I thought it would be cool. if we did a pod, Zach Hertz's mother, Lisa Ertz, has started a go-fund me for Giovanni and some of his medical expenses. We're going to try to ship in here at Greenlight. And part of the concept is going to be having him on here.

And we're going to have four or five NFL players on. Gio and I are going to kind of co-host the pod. You know, Zach's definitely stopping by. But a couple other guys as well from a bunch of different teams are going to stop by and spread the word and raise some money. I know Eagles fans will step up, but if you're listening and you like football, check this kid's story out,

and also check out his podcast and check out Wednesday. But to do that and to get a little detail on how you can help, please check out my social media tomorrow and the next day and I'll have some information on how you can help make somebody's holiday because, gosh, it's tough year for everybody, but I can only imagine having bills on top of bills in the medical department, and that's what Gio and his very supportive and awesome family have to deal with. But he's a brave kid.

He takes it in stride, and I can't wait to have him kind of co-hosts this pod. And Greenlight Faithful, let's do something good. Let's get this guy's bills paid off, man. You know, Zach Ertz has done a great job. Lease Ertz has done a great job of rallying some people's support. I figured this pod could really be a good for. football pod but also introduce you to a kid that I know who has who does a great job at this thing and also raise some money for a good cause so that'll be Wednesday um I'll give you some more

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Also, as promised, I will dive into the Eagles more on Wednesday as well as the Bucks, but I just do wanna say this about the Eagles game. You know, I woke up this morning, I saw the Carson Wentz report that my God, he doesn't wanna be in Philly anymore if he's a backup quarterback and I saw all types of former players and media members kind of

Like, listen, we get it. You guys don't like him. Like, just say he hasn't been good at football this year and move on. Like, it's, he's not the first guy to want out of a situation that objectively hasn't been great. Um, and he won't be the last. And he won't be the last guy if it was him and his agent who leaked that to do something like that.

It's the way things work in the league. The Eagles are moving on in, in some capacity, it looks like. And the Carson Wentz party seems to do. to be saying, well, we want to move on too. And I get that, although the number that he's there at makes it really hard to conceive him leaving. I don't think it's a big fucking deal that he wants to leave, guys. Does that mean you're a bad guy? I saw some media members who are real pro player mobility, pro player at every turn. They're afraid to criticize. And the minute Carson ass out of Philly, because it's just, it's run its course, he's a bad guy. I don't see it that

way. My tweet today was essentially that, yes, there are circumstances that led to Carson that exacerbated his failures this year, but he struggled to find his footing. He's missed easy throws. He's he hasn't been able to turn things around for this team. And the team's not great, but Jalen Hertz has been more than a spark. He actually looks through two games like somebody you might be excited about developing or somebody that you can win now with. Because if you're talking about the guy that we saw today, you can win now with that guy. you know like last week I thought all right probably

you're gonna need him to develop some he made some really nice throws I like his touch I think he's got great poise but you know you're not gonna run for 200 yards every week well this this week it wasn't all about the running game and I thought that you know I thought the Eagles would lose

I picked them to lose but certainly I didn't see them losing this way they were competitive they were even explosive at times offensively and there is something to the offense is being run differently because you can do different things with him in a crisis situation. But the guy has tremendous poise. He delivered some really nice throws today, some real big boy NFL tosses. And I think one of the things that he does objectively

better than Carson right now, you know, just off the bat is touch. The touch that he has on his passes, it's easy to see that that's one of his strengths. And that's a nice place to be. I mean, because you could be a world beer in this league without having a tremendously strong arm. And he has a pretty strong arm from what I can tell. But if you can make those touch passes, if you can change speeds, if you're a passer or not a thrower,

I guess that's the way quarterbacks, people who know quarterbacks tournament, guys that can vary their speeds, throwing the football, different parts of the field, different throws are going to look different. Like he knows how to do that stuff. And you can tell right off the bat,

the poise is great. So I got, of course, clickbaited right as I sent that tweet, which really is a totally vanilla and sensible tweet that, hey, listen, there's a lot of factors that cause Carson's failures this year, but he has to own them, and I think he knows that, but it's also reasonable that he wants out. I got NBCSN, Philadelphia. They did the serious-looking picture of me.

Chris Long weighs in and lays blame, eyeball emoji. All you got to do is just fucking retweet me, and you really don't have to. So I said I'm going to go Kyrie Irving on NBCSN. I don't even know who works for NBCSN. I think I have some friends that work there, but I'm sorry I can't talk to you on the record anymore. I'm Kyrie Irving-In NBCSN.

I'm going to go outside their building and just burn sage everywhere. And everybody's going to be like, whoa, dude, he's deep. And he doesn't talk to the media. Yeah, because I don't feel like getting clickbaited. Not about it. Like, you know, it's like when you clickbait somebody is one thing, but when you do it about a former teammate, it's another thing.

Just fucking retweet me. As for the box man, Brady in the second half, oh my goodness. It was like a totally different team. And today he was like he had those, you know, those great white shark eyes. He had those dead eyes on steroids. Like looking into Tom's soul today, it was like it was very apparent that there's just no empathy left. He just, he just wants this bad. He just wants he's in kill mode.

And this has been one of the biggest struggles of his career probably. up against expectations, however realistic they've been. And I think he's just fucking fed up. And he wants this thing to work really bad. And you can see in his face. But you can't will yourself to execute. You got to execute. And they didn't in the first half.

They did in the second half. And I will dive in and look at what halftime adjustments they made. Come back on Wednesday. I'll tack that on to the end of the pod. Do a little deep dive. I will say, though, today Carlton Davis made a huge, play, sticking the defense of the Buccaneers who were just getting carved up for much of the first half. Matt Ryan looked vintage. The touch on the passes he was throwing were unbelievable.

He looks like he's going to go up 21 nothing on the bucks, and it was about time to stick a fork in them. And Carlton Davis makes a huge play before the half to keep it at 17-0. And that, to me, 21 nothing at the half, although 28 to 3, the Falcons, that whole thing, it's hard to come down from three touchdowns down against the team that's been moving the ball like that. There's a big difference between 17 and 21. And it turned out that that was the difference in the game. That was a huge play by him. And he saved that touchdown. And actually, Winfield probably made the play of the game defensively, although Devin White was all over the place. And Winfield's play that I'm about to mention set up a third Devin White sack.

I mean, he was, this guy can run a hit anything. But late in the game, Ridley gets behind the defense in the end zone, including Winfield and Winfield's closing speed and ability to turn around, run full speed, find Ridley, track the ball, get his left hand on it. That guy is not playing like a rookie. Unbelievable, this kid. Just he's got the presence of a 10-year vet. It really is something different about his leadership,

qualities and his kind of intangibles. Talk all day about him being undersized and that sort of thing. And, you know, having a dad who played in the league and that can help, you know, certainly I can tell you that from experience. But being a rookie is being a rookie. And it certainly helps to have him on a good defense and established defense with a guy like Todd Bowles. Like certainly it helps to be well coached and have good pieces around you and players to

lean on and success breeds individual success. but he's been a, like, key player on a team that I still think is a contending team now. I saw guys, I watch ESPN, they know who they are, jumping off the Bucks bandwagon. I don't want to hear it in the playoffs. I've been asked like three, four times on shows I've been on this year. So you're ready to count the Bucks out.

Are the Bucks done? Can the Bucks still win? Like, dude, long season, late by week. I have a feeling. They're going to be a tough out in the playoffs. Okay? You'll be wrong. And when I'm wrong, they get beaten the first round is what it is.

But you got young players growing up before your eyes. You know, Winfield, that offense really started clicking late in the game. It clicked later in the game against Minnesota. So they're making adjustments. Their first 15, whatever they're doing game plan-wise, just set it on fire. Throw it out. because they start slow as fuck. I don't know what it is about these guys,

but it's slow. And, you know, second half, it's apparent, tight ends, a little bit more play action. Mike Evans finds a way to get involved. I'm going to dive deeper into that. But another comeback win for Tom against Matt Ryan.

And feel bad for Matt because he came out there bawling today. And he was like, he was playing like his hair was on fire. But the Falcons, continue to blow leads. They're evaluating Raheem Morris right now. It sure would be nice to have that win under his belt. I would hate it if that was the difference in him being retained as an interim,

you know, and them looking down, Arthur Blank and saying, well, we look better, but we're still blowing leads. Like, what the hell is going on here? That would have been a big win for Rahim Morris. You can tell this Falcon team, there's no quitting them. They were one of the only teams today that were eliminated. They played like that wasn't the case. They almost got the W.

I'll get into the Eagles. I'll get into Bucks more on Wednesday. And pick them standings today. There was a tie at first place. 5, 5 and 2, making an I tied. Kate, 4, 6, and 2. And my lovely wife, Meg, 3, 7, and 2. She had, must have been a long weekend with the boys.

Stressful. Didn't get her picks in until Sunday morning. I knew something was wrong. I felt bad, though, because she wanted to pick the Jets, and I was like, they might not score. Boy, was I wrong. On the season, and the season's young for us, because we are late out of bed here at Greenlight,

we've only been doing this three weeks. I'm in first place, 18, 17 and 2. Meg's in second place, 16, 19, and 2. Kate is in third place, 15, 20, and 2, and making up the rear, 13, 22, and 2. So, I just want to take this time to remind people that if you have a podcast out there, some of you guys in football and sports media,

Yeah. If you do a pick-em graphic on your podcast and you don't include your wives, obviously you don't love your wives as much as Macon and I love our very lovely wives. I'm just saying, most respectful podcasts out there to our wives. We sure do respect them, and I am very pleased to include them every week in the pick-um. And it's not just because I feel like it makes them feel good to include them. It's because they're capable. very capable of picking these games in fact that's making how capable they are

running him out of the gym I don't know who's worse me on Thursday night I'm going to the waffle house for 24 hours I'm gonna eat so many waffles I'm gonna be out of there in fucking no time I'm gonna eat 24 waffles so fast because he didn't say that you can't eat 24

he didn't put like a limit on it I'm gonna eat 24 waffles in like three hours I'm gonna be out of there There's no penalty for losing the pickum this year. We just figured it would be better started now and later, and I am rolling. So without further ado, let's get to Steve and enjoy the pod Wednesday. We'll drop some more info on that coming up. The 2021 basketball season is here.

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You got a good rant in you. I heard offline. The word was broken. describe why college football is broken right now. Well, Chris, you have to start with at the top and the teams that weren't involved in getting in a playoff. And then you look at farther down the rankings, Oklahoma jumps an undefeated Cincinnati,

undefeated coastal, doesn't get an opportunity to play in a New Year's Six bowl game. And they have a common opponent with Iowa State, who now has three losses. And Iowa State's going to a New Year's Six Bowl and they're not. They're going to Fiesta Bowl and Coastal as a common opponent which they beat and Iowa State

lost to him by 17 points. It's pretty obvious as Joey Galloway said, you have to tell these group of five teams and the non-power five is what they have to do to get in. And I understand that we had a shortened season and SEC teams, you know, everybody played a conference schedule

for the most part. But to see Cincinnati fall again after winning a conference, I mean they played at last night in an absolute monsoon in Cincinnati. And they get a win and they win a conference championship. And you say, you say undefeated conference champion, that's what you need to be a part of the discussion.

They're still not part of the discussion. That's a problem with the sport. For the people that want eight teams in a playoff, I think this is the first step we need it. We needed to see what the committee takes into consideration and know now that is, you it's really not possible now. I mean, we have two one-loss teams in there. We have a team of six wins in there, and it's just, it's not fair.

And if you go down the line, you know, you have two lost SEC teams that are still in the top 10. Coastal still doesn't get in the top 10. It feels broken, and it feels like it seems needs some major fixes. And I think the majority of the people around the sport would be down for the expansion. now after seeing what the committee did today. I would say so, and I don't want 12 teams. I don't want 16 teams. I think eight is just fine.

I think everybody, everybody's always like, well, if you get eight, you're going to want 12. That's not necessarily true. No, because when you get in the eight, you can, you still have the best team argument, which I get, you know, really frustrated with all the time because I see teams lose and then we still talk, well, I'm not sure they're not the better team. I'm like, why are we playing that? Yeah.

If we have head-to-to-head matchup, Why are we playing? Like at some point, teams that lose have to get penalized. And you just didn't see it this year. And it's really, really frustrating. How much of it is driven by selling tickets, which this year you're not? But the media part of it, because like the TV part, because to me, and maybe I'm just throwing my hands up and being selfish.

And I'd much rather see, if you're Notre Dame and you get beat like that, We talked before the game. We said, hey, if it's a 10-point game, you know, like, they're going to stay in. I mean, it ends up being a three-score game for most of it, three, four scores. And no question. They're in. They're the four. They're playing Bama.

But, like, what the fuck is the point? And I'd much rather, as a viewer, if I'm going to see a team get blown out, I'd rather see Coastal get blown out. I'd rather see Sinti get blown out. I want to see that Boise State situation from way back. you know, I'll always remember the Cinderella getting a shot. And I know that's maybe not, you know, like, but when the math at the end of the year supports, you know,

the team with the lesser profile nationally getting the shot, it doesn't work out that way. And it sucks. And I guess I would ask you, how much different would a Bama coastal game than a Notre Dame game be? Because I figure Notre Dame is going to be competitive for a little bit. But Bama, it might not be like the national championships some years back, but is going to pull away.

Yeah. I mean, they are lethal. And it also brings back the idea of the BCS. Like, if we just still had the BCS, it'd be Alabama and Clemson. Like, let's go. You know, strap it up and go. So there's a lot of work that has to be done. But I think, honestly, from what happened today with decisions that were made with bowl games,

I really think the foot is going to be stepped on the gas as far as expanding this thing. Because all the little guys always just want a shot. How do you get a shot? If you go undefeated and win your conference championship, what else can you ask for? You need to tell them that before the year. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying.

They need to know. You need to set the expectation. I feel like the expectation is not clearly set so that you have loopholes to do whatever the fuck you want come December and January. Any team in the Power 5 that you see challenging, you know, and creating some parity in the next three to five years, one of these mid-market kind of teams

that might break up this this power circle that we have going on in college football that's just got a vice grip I think Mack Brown could do it in North Carolina I really do it. That was one that was on my mind because they could make a single run and win the AC championship

and I mean like you look at the talent they have this year it's offensive and he's and he's killing it recruiting. He's killing it. Totally counterintuitive you bring an old guy the recruiting gets better? Like what other old guys are recruiting better? You know what I mean?

Well, he's been really smart about it. I know. This is hats off to him. You know, I looked at some of the things I wanted, like Dre Bly is on that staff. And like I'm looking at, you know, South Virginia down on the beach and they're getting a lot of guys from down there. You know, the old Newport News and all down there, man,

like that. We know how much of a hotbed it is down there. You guys know that more than anybody. That's the honey hole. Yeah. So it is, I think a team like that, I think, I know it sounds crazy and they're, your most hated school, but like Loxley did really well recruiting, like this area where I'm living now and the DMV is loaded with town.

Alabama's, I think, I think Alabama has three starters from DMV, you know, like, I mean, you guys, I'm not telling you something that you don't know. For sure, but that's where you, that's where they got, uh, the kid who's with Dallas now, Diggs, obviously. You know, there's always a number of great players coming out of the Dematche area and that sort of thing. So, yeah, I mean, it's in that mid-Atlantic region that some of the, I feel like down in the SEC, it's just locking key. I mean, there's just no, you're not doing anything about it.

You're not going in and taking recruits out of anywhere like that. But like one of these ACC schools or maybe a Big Ten school, because you mentioned that, you know, before we got on, is like outside of a whole. Ohio State, who, you know, have been. Conference is average. The conference is incredibly average. But also, too, like with the PAC 12 now, like their excuse of how late they got started this year, they never had a shot.

Like, we knew they didn't have a shot, you know. And even going, you know, a little bit more east with the Big 12, like Oklahoma has has had their times and they've had their talent and they've been blessed at the quarterback position with, you know, two guys from Oklahoma that played against each other today and Jalen and Kyle Murray. How about that? Two transfers. Yeah, you know? Amazing. Yeah.

So you factor that in like you to expand it. Like you have to give those teams a chance because if I'm out West, like I look at the PAC 12, right? The coach of Colorado left Colorado, which was the best job in the country when I was growing up. Colorado was the best. I talked to every recruit, every host I ever had in college, their favorite trip was going to Boulder. Right. And the coach left. It's amazing. Coach left there to go to Michigan State. in shambles. That exactly, and that is just telling me, I'm out of hair, man. Like, I don't have a chance out here. And that, that was really eye-opening to me, because

that was, to me, big picture about the conference. It wasn't about Colorado and coaching Colorado and building up. It was just saying, I'm at the bottom right now, and I've got to rebuild Colorado. And even if I do, I still don't have a chance. I'm looking at the ceiling, even if I'm a 9-10 win team. Exactly. And poor Colorado,

they got their game pulled. They wouldn't even give them a chance, and then they dropped out of top 25 this week. So there's a lot of work to do. And I'm hopeful the one thing everybody says is Zoom, these Zoom calls we're doing, is this positive, negative? I'm hoping it's a positive for sport of college football because it feels like it's a hell of a lot easier to get people on the phone and have some meetings now. So maybe that's a step of it. Looking for positives in 2020. Yeah.

Speaking of positives, I know you got three questions for me tonight. We'll do it this way. You got three for me. I got three for you. We'll just trade them off because I got to, you know, I got to spend time on the Eagles and we'll do that when you leave and I'll spare you because I got to deal with that fucking. It's fascinating, man.

I was tired of it six weeks ago and it just keeps, it just keeps bringing you back in. Imagine every time you speak like and do your job as a podcaster because now I'm technically a member of the media. Professional podcast. Yeah, NBCSN, Philly, you know, quotes. me online and clickbates me like I'm a fucking current player. Like they, you know what I mean?

Like they kind of frame it like Chris Long's take. I'm like, my job is the take. Plug my podcast and just fuck off. Greenlight takes. Oh my gosh. Just retweet me. I do a tweet about Carson Wentz and they bury the tweet in an article. They wrote an article about my tweet.

Just fucking retweet me. And don't mislead with. You got a question. I do. How happy are you for the New York? Jets. I am happy for the new. Well, I'm not happy for the franchise, okay?

I got a buddy up there upstairs, Joe Douglas. I don't, you know, like, I'm sure Joe Douglas wants to win, but I don't know, and I haven't talked to Joe about who he wants next year, but let's say they're settled on sunshine. I'm not happy for the franchise. For the players, though, I could give a fuck less. And I could give a fuck less about, you know, if I'm a player, I give a fuck less about the front office because they're going to cut a ton of these guys.

at the end of the year. And players, they always have different needs and they don't align with front office needs. And we've gone over this year, we've gone over this tanking concept a lot this year. Jason Kelsey had a great speech last week, right? Yes, you did.

Jason Kelsey is as real as it gets, and he's telling the truth. And, you know, that's the bottom line. You, it is not in your best interest to lose if you were on the field in any capacity or up there as a coordinator in those offices up in the sky, in the sky. boxes. Your job is to win and win now because usually if you're on a bad team, what do they do?

They hit the reset button and you're all without job. And that's why I thought the Greg Williams thing was so dumb. Like you really think like this guy's getting prior to a month. Do you think he wants to lose a game and embarrass himself? The Jets have been tirelessly trying to win games. I feel good for Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold's been playing, you know, thinking he's auditioning and now he might be back in the building. Adam Gase is auditioning. Not that I think today changes a whole lot. It wasn't just the fact they got to win. I'm glad they saved their win for now because that was a really good defense that they moved the ball against. Non-stop. Non-stop. And staved off a furious comeback in the second half. And listen, you know, the May

who they take a shot out of, well, they take a shot on third and four at the end of the game when they need it. The Rams do, which was curious. If you're going to take a shot on fourth and four, why are you taking a shot on third and four? Maybe two high percentage plays. You've been running them all second half. Anyways, they take a shot at May, who breaks up a pass, great play by him. It was just, for me, the captain,

the guy who was obviously very hurt after that game they dropped a few weeks ago. It was a big deal to him. It's a big deal of those guys. It's Christmas week, man. Christmas week. I mean, this is the week you get to be with your families for like half a day.

You know, like, there's some festivities around the building, especially on a team that's going home. You have to understand when you're, when you're, when you're, you got your eyes on the finish line, you cannot help but look forward to it on a team that's got one or zero or two wins in December. And that's okay. These guys are busting their ass every Sunday. But when they leave that building, they cannot wait for January 1st because it's a huge release.

And you guys, these guys have been a meme for four months, a meme. And they got to go out and get hit to be a meme. It's hard, man. so I'm really happy for that team. I'm really happy for them too. I know you do your best flight, worst flight thing. Like that's... That's got to be a good one.

That might make the cut. That might be... That might make the cut. I really hope they let those guys drink on that flight. When you drink on the way home from... Fuck it. I'll do... I'm going to do this to perlatives in the pod tonight, guys.

I'm going to give the Jets best flight home. And listen, that bottle of crown is not good for your hydration. It's not good for your body the next day, but when you've been working for that first win for three plus months and you've been the butt of everybody's joke, I hope you get absolutely shit-faced on the flight home and fall going down the stairs and not hurt yourself,

but it wasn't a good flight if you don't stumble going down on the tarmac. One of those games, I played one of my best games, and we tied the 49ers, and I was getting on the bus and fell on my face in St. Louis when we got off the flight and Jeff Fisher was staring right at me as I got up and he said,

you played your ass off today. He said, enjoy yourself. Absolutely. That's what it's about, man. I mean, after a football game, there's a big release.

I hope those guys got it. And for the Rams, man, holy shit. The fact that I described that sequence late, the third and four, the fourth and four,

after all that work you did come back, and the hole you put yourself in. But then, that defense that I've been calling the number one defense the league. All they got to do is get one stop in two sets of downs and they can't do it. And Frank Gore, I'll give an award out. We give the Frank Gore Award, the Love of the Game Award,

sponsored by the St. Louis Rams, and he won it this week just for picking up that game icing first down. The look on his face when he got up, you think about some of those old guys, Steve? Yeah. That's what I'm saying, like this whole tanking thing. Like, I'm trying. I just think about these guys. And then all the testing they got to be doing. And just there's not one good thing being said. No, on a normal year it sucks. On a normal year, it sucks.

It is, it is incomprehensible to me to be on a terrible football team in a pandemic. There is no release for these guys. There's no going out to dinner. There's no, you know, seeing your family when they come in. When you're on a bad team, do you know how comforting that is for your parents to come in and give you a hug after the game? why I only had one that would come in because one of my parents has a flat top and works on NFL Fox on Sunday, but my mom would fly in. And every game after we'd lose in the bottom of

the Edward Jones Dome, you look around and get, and it just meant a lot to have that hug or like see your buddies come in and go out drinking on a Sunday night after a tough game. You know, there's none of that this year. You're walking around the facility and masks. Holy shit. So big, big deal for them. And Frank Gore, man, we might have just, if they, if they That gave him the juice, the motivation to continue. We might have just seen the catalyst for Frank hanging on long enough to do the Ken Griffey Senior, Ken Griffey Jr. football thing. I don't know if his son at Southern Miss has got the stuff, but it'd be cool, man.

I'm like, you know, I'm holding out hope. That's a whole new level. I can't even think of that. Because the Bronny thing is cool. It's undeniably cool. This is football. He's a running back. This is football.

He was drafted low because they were worried about the miles on his tires. And he just fucking, he's a Toyota. He just kept running. He just kept running. And also, funny twist in this game. And Jimmy Trayna, shout out to Jimmy at S-I. Yeah, he's the man. So he had a good tweet.

He beat me to it because I was sitting there thinking about something. He goes, listen, this block in the back by Higby is the thing that's going to keep the Jets from getting that first pick. What I had just been thinking five minutes earlier is that punter tackling 14 on a house call essentially, an inexplicably great tackle by a punter in the open field, like literally cut him down.

And that is the difference right there. Trevor Lawrence is thinking about all that money he could win or make in New York off the field. And I don't know if he's a Jacksonville guy or a New York guy, no state tax, a bunch of money off the field, Joe Douglas, that whole thing. but in that moment you're like holy shit the trajectory of a franchise just changed

because of a punter tackling a punt returner that is insane to me that's what we're in right now that's football man yeah football the inches we need are everywhere around us and the jets couldn't get them those pesky players man they just stood up and all the jets fans

are booing them and they won the fucking game also shout out to Frank Bush stepping in his he was an old coach of mine and a Greg Williams guy. But with Greg out, he had to, he had to get the job done today. He did a masterful job. Rams finished with the cards and the Hawks. What do you do if you're the jet, Steve? Oh, man, this is a great question.

First of all, I pay my general manager because he's in charge of these decisions. I will say, Chris, I'm a Sam Darnold guy. I think he can do it. I think he showed a hell of a lot today. You talked about the superlatives of that Rams defense. He dropped a couple dimes today that were just like, wow. And I will just say that Sam doesn't have the best toys to play with on offense. And he should be giving, he should be given the right to see what he could do with some proper, some edible toys.

Yeah. All right. So I, I mean, obviously, you know, it's the Trevor thing. and now, you know, Jacksonville has the lead because of the schedule, yeah, the tiebreaker. I think Sam could do it. I think this is going to be a moot point. I think this is going to be a moot point.

I'm just looking at it now. I'm thinking Jags beat the Bears this week. Oh, boy. I think in a twist. No one looks ahead to next week more better than you do. You're unbelievable with it. It is unreal. But I'm just looking at it.

I'm just saying, by the way. I'm not going to make, I'm not going to wake up Monday morning. get my text from you like, hey, I've got to get on that Jacksonville plus four and a half hosting the Bears, which is probably what it'll be. I don't know if the look ahead line, but I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to say plus plus four and a half in that marquee matchup that everybody's wondering what the line's going to be. I just, I feel like it's the type of year where they go out and fuck it up and win a game here. They put Minshu back in. He's literally your best chance to win a game. Okay. And I know Doug Marone's playing for his job,

but Doug Morone ain't going to have a job. If Sunshine is looking you in the face there, that makes it interesting. That changes the complexion of how you make that hire and who's being talked to. I know that Dabo would be tough to pull from his little kingdom there in Clemson. But I mean, the whole game has changed now.

You make a totally different hire with, you know, if you're drafting even fields, I feel like, than you do if you're drafting Trevor, Lawrence. Yeah. No, I'm not going to disagree with you. I'm with you there. I think the Jags beat the pairs next week and I go back to square one and the Jets still get some chance. Early lean, hot takes. But you know what I will say? To your point, I am, I can be coerced on on Sam Darnold. I can. I totally get the fucked up situation he's been put in. And I don't think I'd take Justin Fields over him. No. No. I don't like I just, I don't, I'm not in love with the

kid enough. And if I'm the Jets, I know Sam Darnold really well, Joe Douglas is going to make the right decision. These are decisions that make or break a franchise. I feel like he's going to make the right decision. So, we'll see, but I would take Sam Donald. I would take Sunshine over Sam Donald.

Okay. Yeah. I mean, see, that's where I suck though, Chris, because I don't know the money situation. I know Sam's up against it now and that whole thing. So that's, like I said, that's why you pay the general manager to make that decision. And that's why, you know, that's why if the Eagles have accidentally struck gold with Jalen Hertz and he is what he looks

like over the first couple games at least, you know, it's almost like if they hadn't done the thing where they paid the other guy a bajillion dollars, you have a rookie deal quarterback and that's just such a big deal. Look at the Seahawks. That's all they did it. Yep. That's all they did it. Absolutely. All right. So question number two, Steve-o. All right, Chris, I was watching Washington and Seattle today, speaking to Russell Wilson, and I got me to thinking, in this week so far of games that we've seen, who started the worst quarterback? Golly, I think I know your answer. And again, I could, the floor isn't as low as I thought.

And you could say, and I don't want to be disrespectful to Colt McCoy, because I respect him and he's capable. Yep. But he's just, you know, like he's been a journeyman kind of guy. Yep. Of the guys who, I would say Drew Locke over Haskins, because I've seen a big enough sample size of Drew Locke that I just feel like there's something with Haskins still that somebody more competent could get out of him. And I'm not saying Scott Turner.

Again, we talked about this. I kind of shit on Scott Turner and he's, he's, I was wrong. He's done a good job there. Yeah. But Haskins and him haven't had enough time. Now, maybe they saw enough. You know what I mean? Yeah, I just look at what they are sitting on the verge of with Philly losing, all right?

And the Giants losing tonight. Like, they're in the playoff mix with the worst possible starting quarterback. But they didn't get there with the worst possible starting quarterback. I understand it. I understand that. They're leaving the most meat on the bone. with the guy they trotted out this way. Yes. For sure.

So and it just, it's just like that's where they are. And then, you know, bring it up again, but like Philadelphia. Like, where,

like can't, what, where are we going there? Right. You know, like Carson says he's not going to back it up. Okay. Well,

I have a solution. Could the Colts go get Carson once? Do you think Frank Wright can fix Carson once? I absolutely do. And I've talked about this in this pot a good bit. And people get really confused. when you give a nuanced take. And my take isn't even that nuance.

You just have to like put down all the bullshit you're doing and listen closely to the words that I'm saying through your iPhone right now. Carson Wentz deserved to be benched. The problems that exacerbated his poor play were not all his fault. And he could use a fresh start and could stabilize somewhere else.

These things are all true, okay? Carson did not play well this year, and they didn't help him much around him. But I think he ends up in Indy, he ends up in San Francisco. Fuck, he ends up in Denver. I mean, things are just better, right? Like, look at the investment in the toys they made out in Denver. They never successfully made that investment in Philly. And up front, you're going with your 14th straight.

And Jalen Hertz did a beautiful job today. If you're not a crisis management kid, like Jalen Hertz, who just comes in there, wet behind the ears and he's got the fresh legs to get out of situations and the athleticism and the poise. I really like his poise too. Well, Poise is also affected by being hammered

for two, three plus years by the media and by the opposing pass rushers and by not having the weapons. So these are things that all factor in and I do think that Frank could absolutely get Carson back to being a very serviceable fringe top 10 quarterback. But the money's not right. I got you, I got you.

And like I said, the money thing I can't ever figure out. But it's a hypothetical. I can tell you that honestly, like it is very unlikely that they get that deal done. But it's crazy to me that the novel coronavirus has changed, possibly changed the course of the Philadelphia Eagles and the Indianapolis Colts. If you're to believe they get that deal done, because the cap going down is the reason they probably can't. Because, all right, so this is like a multi-piece thing that I wanted to try and construct because,

all right, I mentioned because I think it's Askins. I think he's the, like, I just don't think he could do it. I really like the system from Ohio State and translating it. And I thought Jonathan Villan was awesome today, talking about all the things that they tried to do with the wristband and everything like that. And then I just looked at, because at the same time, the other game that I have on is Cowboys and Niners. Right. And I'm looking at those quarterback situations with what they started. And I'm like, holy shit.

like Philly, Washington, or I should say, Philly, Philly is set, but they have an option maybe if they get went, you know, they have a move to make with Wents, but Dallas and San Francisco are so not what they're going to look like first day of the year next year.

They still look serviceable with patchwork. And what about a quarterback? Like we talked about fields. Like who's getting that upgrade of a quarterback position? Because I look at the situation, I'm like Washington, San Francisco, Dallas. Washington's probably going to go to the playoffs. But like there's a, I think like the Niners have a better base when all healthy.

Right. Then Washington, Dallas. And I just, it just, it's, those teams are that close. And, you know, we saw where San Francisco went last year. And we know, or I should say, we think we know what they're going to do in moving on at the quarterback position. But I'm like, it's, it's that close, man. This league and you're just watching these teams.

And it's just like, and the NFC especially, because there's another. question I have about that. It's like it's that it's that close. It's a quarterback man. It is the quarterback. It's unbelievable how close these teams are. And most quarterbacks as you watch on Sundays are guys that can't carry a franchise. Okay, we know that. But there are some guys that can get you out of a tight spot or do the easy things. I mean, there's a cluster of quarterbacks that aren't going to carry a team but can hit the open receiver can get you some. And Haskin, today is the reason they didn't have another win. I mean, he is the antithesis of Smith, okay?

In a lot of ways. And I will also say that 55 passes a lot for the kid right off the bench, which is why I'm saying I'd probably take Haskins over Locke based on the sheer number of things that he's had thrown at him, in my opinion. You know, the rookie year, you know, I think he could have done a lot better. Listen, when he got benched, there were people attributing it to all types of things. And I was like, hey, let's pump the brakes. this kid's just not been very good.

And newsflash, when there's a new fucking regime and you haven't been very good, the guy doesn't care. And he doesn't read Twitter and he doesn't read think pieces about why, you know, Dwayne Haskins deserves another shot. Like, he just hasn't played one.

There's a new guy. Okay. But, you know, I think the two picks today were absolutely killer. Everything else he did just fine. I mean, it was the, it was the picks and it was taken the two sacks late. That was, those were the things

that bothered you the most. But I will say this. The picks were bad. The first one led to points off a tip. The second one was even worse. I think with him it's sheer overconfidence when he, and I'm not saying arrogance or cockiness, I'm saying when he gets rolling in some capacity early on,

nine for 13, not incredibly spectacular but efficient. A lot of balls to Logan. And yeah, this guy's become a ball catching machine. But then he goes and throws that tip ball pick. And then later he's had this drought in production, hits a 50-50 ball to McLaren, McLaurin, sorry, year or two, I'll get it. And then the next play, he just throws it up.

And he's a big look-off guy, too. You know, he's just, I forget who DJ Reed just disguised the coverage perfectly, and he's there. But he's looking him off. So it's kind of the same thing as the first one. When he throws the first one, he's in a groove, second one he just hit a big play. And in a game like this, you just have to understand that, like, I know you want to, I know you want to audition and that sort of shit. But this was a manage-it game.

when you were down. And that's my point is the reason he had to throw 55 times were complicated because of the mistakes that he made. And then we know when you have to throw the ball 55 times in a game, shit's going to happen. Yes. You know, like that, like, it's just, it's going to happen. And then look, and then look what happens at the end of the game. Fifty-three of them were not disastrous. Yeah. But when you go back and look and people were like, he did some nice things in the second half, I'm like, yeah, he did some nice things, but you want to see some like good to great things. Difference making shit. You know, and he did some nice things.

And by nice, Scott Turner schemed up some really open dudes, and he was picking the Seahawks at times apart in two-minute mode, which, again, context. The Seahawks, we haven't respected their ability defensively all season long. There's been games where it looked like seven-on-seven. It didn't quite look like that, but he picked up some momentum at the end, and things were open. And the finishing with two sacks, before I say this,

Like I remember when he got bench against the Ravens, one of the big grice was, red zone sacks, you know, bad decision making, that sort of thing. These weren't as bad. Listen, they were down to the 23 and the unfortunate thing is if Hopkins doesn't miss that extra point, forcing them to attempt a two point and then missing that conversion. A field goal ties it there. But, you know, things are different. They're not playing.

They're playing. That's just it's all complicated from what shit he did early in the game. Yes. And here's the deal. Like those two sacks, the first. one either way I can go either way on it the second one Dunlap runs Moses right over oh my goodness there's no time so as much as I want a knee jerk be like well two sacks at the end of the game you know out of field goal range by the way Dunlap is is stacking the clutch plays the cardinal

sack and then that one of that's that's crack cocaine to a defensive end dude those I think you can be a difference maker in a playoffs man I really do he's scary absolutely Absolutely. Absolutely. Here's the disappointing part about Washington to me. They allowed Seattle to play their game because they were not stout against the run. Yeah. That was it.

You know, Seattle, they didn't have to baby Russ, but early on, this is the formula. When Seattle's playing somebody, they fear their four-man front because I've been on four-man fronts that Russ feared year in a year out. And sometimes we got the- No big deal. Sometimes the bull got him. Yeah. know sometimes he got the bull more times the bull got him but the thing is they're going to start

the game and they're going to test you and see if they can run the ball because that's going to slow rushers down and then you're going to get your seven man protection. He can feel things out. Yes. You get your seven man protection which people are like there's no pass rush. I'm like look how many people are in these are three four man routes and the pocket's slightly moving and you're already worried about your rush lanes with him. He tucked it for like 38 yards because Chase got, Chase Young got greedy in a crease between two tight ends. And in situations like that, you know, everybody's saying you've got to contain Russell Wilson.

But in that crease, you've got to realize that your three technique, if he gets washed at all, that B gap, and for people at home, we're talking about rush lanes, widened tremendously. So you're not going to just run outside the second tight end because you're going to create a huge gas. So you've got to just keep pushing up the field, and Russ is just going to run around the corner.

So it sounds a lot simpler than it is, to contain him. You have to worry about that. You have to worry about the play action game, which slows rushes down. They didn't even really get into their stuff with play action until late in the first half. They just stuck to what they were doing. And the biggest fuck up by Washington is this. Out of the half, you're in a 13-3 ballgame. You got this great defense. You got this tremendous front. And those guys play good at times today. What you can't have is 94 takes some turns, has a couple bad plays, and then sweat on that long Carlos Hyde run,

which is like Carlos Hyde is not a 60-yard touchdown guy. No, that's the game. That's the game right there. The safety slipped, but what really happened was they're running a pressure and sweat loops, you know, rips into the B-Gap. What you need to do in that situation is you've got to close the air

as if you were a five technique and the tackle comes down. There's a big B-gap there and sweat chops his feet to go up the field and, instead of closing that space. You say, do anything you can to make that smaller. You got to make, and you basically, in that situation, if I slant down inside the tackle and I get like divide action, I need to close.

Now, I'm not sure how they play that, but I've never, and Sweat did some great things, and I think he's their best guy up front. I do. I really do. On the edge. He is. I got you.

At this point. And I love Ryan Kerrigan, I was incensed when they made, him. I thought it was because he was a WD. They made him the fifth guy. I mean, the franchise leader in Sacks, he just broke the fucking record. He can still roll. And all of a sudden, it's just young guys left and right. But it makes sense because they've done a great job of developing him. He must be like George Mierasani batted another ball today. Come off coverage in the flat. They just, they're disruptive. They are. They are. But you've got to stop the run. If you stop the run today, you win that game.

Yeah. You win that game. Yeah. You win that fucking game. And Russ does just enough, as we talked about. And that was our head-to-head game, too. Yeah. That's by a half point. I was right. And I was thinking about that because I did have them in real life. I'm sure you were.

I retired this weekend, by the way. Oh, the least shocking news I've heard. But I was so smart about it. I was so smart about it. I like Seattle to win the West. What say you? I mean, that's not being overreactive. I've been on it.

Trust, man. Trust in Russ, man. It's just like I hate to go back to Rams Jets, but you saw what golf you were getting in the first quarter today. You saw it. You knew it was going to be a struggle. East Coast golf. East Coast first half golf. I mean, listen, the Giants, I mean, they were playing an East Coast team.

They were slow against those guys. That was a struggle. They go up to Buffalo. They get jumped. You know, what happened today, they just, the Rams are so variable. They're such a matchup team. that I just, I don't, I don't trust them. Oh, you know what?

I got a question first because I didn't ask you. Okay. If you could put one non-playoff quarterback on a playoff team, who would it be this year? Just to have some fun with it. Oof. I'm going to get this wrong. But I think I would take Matt Ryan. You know what?

I didn't think about that because they were one of the few teams that were in the NFC, at least, that were eliminated coming in today. It was Atlanta. who was it? So that conversation, you got you got Stafford, you got Bridgewater and Matt Ryan unless I'm missing somebody.

Yeah, because I mean the Vikings are still in the hunt. Oh, I got one. Yeah. Deshaun. Oh, duh. It's almost like we have to like, I'm talking about let's let's take

Deshaun Watson out of it. How many teams could you put Deshawn Watson on that will win the Super Bowl right now? In the NFC? In the AFC and the NFC. All. All. I mean, listen, of the playoff teams, he's on the Washington football team. They're winning a Super Bowl.

Maybe. Yeah. But outside of Deshawn Watson, could you imagine if you threw Matt Ryan? I was going to say, we should keep this to, a NFC. NFC. NFC non-playoff team quarterback. Who would I take?

NFC non-playoff team quarterback. By the way, Teddy Bridgewater, the more I watch Teddy Bridgewater play and this is late in the day to make the, he's just he doesn't get enough respect. No. He really has his own

original way of playing, man. It really, and I noticed it back in Louisville, because I'm like, man, this guy, like he does it, wow, you with his feet and he doesn't, but he just constantly does the right thing. If that makes sense, like whether it's running the ball on third and four and getting the first down, making the checkdown right to, you know, to keep a manageable situation and not take a sack, to hit a deep ball when he needs to. He is, he's as consistent in his own way of doing things as

there is. He's Rodney Dangerfield. And he's Rodney Dangerfield. And I mean, like, as much as I want to whole Joe Brady against anybody who shares the feel with him. He's done it and, you know, he did it with Sean Payton too. So I guess he wasn't that guy in Minnesota, but he's gotten better through his career. And I'm sure even if coordinators change, you know, the rest of his career, he's learned things from these really great play callers that, I mean, he just is not real flappable. I respect the hell out of him. I would, you know, there's some really likable quarterbacks who did not make the playoffs

and are not going to make the playoffs this year. There is. I mean, between him Matt and Matt Stafford, Matt Ryan and Matt Stafford, I'm thinking if you throw, oh my God, could you imagine Matt Ryan on the Steelers? I know I'm breaking a rule here.

Matt Ryan on a, Matt Stafford on the Steelers right now. Is this dangerous territory? Yes. Yeah, because you're just going to keep going. Well, no, I'm going. Listen, I think part of it is the offense there

and they can't get the run game going, but, I don't know. You might take some of those guys over Big Ben at this point. I don't know that I would, but... No, but you have that conversation, for sure. We can have the conversation. Yeah, for sure.

I'd probably put Matt Stafford on the Washington football team for fun. Wow. Matt Ryan's had a... He was in the big show, and he got, you know, definitely robbed. I'll give him that. Again today. Brutal. Yeah.

And that's one we definitely got to talk about as well in a few. I have my last question for you. Okay, buddy. We saw the Saints today and man, that was, I don't want to say eye opening because you're obviously watching when Mahomes is on the field and Breeze is coming back. But like we saw when the Saints offense isn't working and we saw the defense, and we saw the defense, I thought play as hard and as well as they could against the best unit in the sport.

But when, I mean, I know the AFC is a free for all. So that's why I didn't want to talk AFC here. I just, in the NFC, who do you trust? But also like, I don't know if trust is the right way, but like the idea of, oh, I wouldn't be surprised if so-and-so makes the Super Bowl. Like the Rams,

the Rams would surprise me if they went through the Super Bowl. The Rams would actually, because it's not a match, they're such a matchup team. If they got the right matchups, I would not be shocked because they have a defense. They're going to have to get it three times. And listen, to me, at least with the Rams,

they got more good matchups than bad matchups now. Their bad ones are just abhorrent. They're just a very variable team. You know, I made a joke today. I was like, did the, I didn't know the Niners snuck into the Jets uniform stay. And of course, then I had a bunch of Niners. That must have made people. Then I had a bunch of Niners.

fans like, oh yeah, we were pretty bad. That's fucked up. I was like, I wasn't even talking about you. You snuck into the Jets uniforms and you don't even realize you own the Rams. Like, that's the joke that like the Rams to me are just so they are untrustworthy. They're probably. Okay, here you go. The bucks are also all over the place. I trust them. I trust them more than the Rams. No doubt. And it's because of one position. It's because of one position. Yep. And I actually am going to push back because last week I saw a bunch of people on TV on your worldwide leader of sports. It was like a fucking race to get off the Bucks bandwagon that nobody's really been on. I mean, the whole year has been about poking holes in the Bucks when most people that were sensible knew the most consistent team in a year where consistency probably pays off as the Saints, maybe in the NFC, maybe in the NFL.

So the bucks are tracking right where they were supposed to be, 11 and 5-ish wild card. They've had some bad dips along the way. I do trust the bucks. I still think they're contenders, especially what they did in the second half there. They just got to figure out who the fuck they are. The Packers, I hate their defense.

I always have outside of Zedareas Smith as a guy up front. If they play somebody physical, they can go down any week. You'll see that the Titans game coming up here. Talk about a look ahead. I'm looking ahead to the Titans game as well. but I might trust the Packer's second most because their offense is that good and I'm looking at AJ Dillon the other night

and I'm saying God damn this guy's 250 pounds and it's getting cold out and the dynamic they have this year that they don't have last year is it's not just Aaron Jones you've got changes of pace and you can beat people up and somehow Aaron Rogers got better.

Yeah. All right so here's the fallback in this question. All right, Green Bay is going to be the one seat. okay, who would you be surprised to go to Lambo and win to go to the Super Bowl? Would you be surprised if New Orleans went there in one? No. No, because it's about the physicality index.

I would be surprised if the Seahawks went there and won. You would? I would. Wow. I don't feel like it's a tremendous matchup for the Seahawks. And Seahawks were my Super Bowl team now. I would listen the one team in the NFC to answer your question that I trust

I mean I would have told you the same thing at the beginning of the season it's the it's the saints and I trust them because of today just talk about today for a second it's listen and first off could you believe that Dallas and San Francisco cut into that shit they couldn't get off the Dallas San Francisco game the whole country was like yo

come on like the whole country we get a Bethard Hale Mary and everybody's like, get this shit off my screen, dude. Yeah, I don't want to see this. Even though that's our guy. By the way, that dude chucked it. That was like legit, like 63 yards. Yeah, good for him.

And that uniform combo is like, I can't, for me to not want to watch that game, that's bad. Yeah. That's bad. That's such a good point. With all the nostalgia, like that is like in that stadium. I just see the 75th year of the NFL logo, that blue logo with the 75 in there. You remember that?

Like that's one, like Super Bowl 30 era, mid-90s. Rod Woodson, it was Rod Woodson picking off. I don't know who it was, the Cowboys, the Cowboys and the Steelers, the Cowboys, the Steelers, the Niners, those were the... I was going to say that was the Niners' uniforms with Steve Young when they beat the Chargers and Stan Humphreys. Beautiful. Yeah, I want to say that was 95. Yeah, I was playing a game called Rampart leading up to that on Sega Genesis. You remember that game?

There you go. Build castles and shit. You remember that game? Yeah. You love that game. Oh, I love that game. I was also playing. I only play sports games.

I don't. That was too hard for me. Well, I was a kid at the time. No, I know. I was at my friend, whose house was I had? I guess shout out, Andy Rubin's house. Shout out Andy.

I was at Blake Solomon's house when my dad was, yeah, shout out to Blake Solomon, wherever you are. I was at Blake's house when my dad was in the AFC championship against the bills, and it was like minus 10 out there. Oh, 51. Minus 30, probably. and my dad jumped off sides five times

and we spent most of the game playing NHL hockey so obviously my dad downplayed his career because I'm sitting at a friend's house playing hockey and when the game is over I turn it on it's the third quarter of my dad playing in the NFC championship like nobody prompted me to watch that game. Yeah so anyways the Saints

are the most trustworthy and today is a perfect example of why and are you the Saints? Do you trust the Saints more than anybody in the NFC? No. Okay, I'll let you talk. I am scared to death of what I saw from their offense today in the first half. He couldn't complete a pass, Chris.

I know, but we went through this. We went through this the first time they played Green Bay when Oakland beat him. And remember, we wrote him off for dead. I'm not going to do it twice in one year. No, no, no, no. I'm just like, I can't trust them. I cannot trust them. fine, but who do you trust more in the damn NFC?

I trust Green Bay, I trust Tampa Bay, I trust Seattle. Now, I will say this. I will say this. I think the team that's got the best chance to beat Kansas City in the NFC, and I said it last week, so I'll stick to it and not be a little bitch about it. I still think it's the Packers and the Rams. Wow. So you would take the Packers and the Rams, even though Tampa already played them.

You don't think playing them already once this year helps them? I'm talking about, you talking about beating the Chiefs? Yes. No, I don't think it helps them. I don't think they're a great matchup against them. I really don't. Wow. Okay.

I mean, I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but I definitely think Green Bay is a nice matchup. And the reason they're a good matchup is with Kansas City, I feel like everybody has it wrong. I feel like everybody thinks that it's about playing keep away. I feel like everybody thinks that it's about, and it's about keeping pace. And we've said that before. I feel like we've talked about this,

but like Greenback can keep pace. And your problem, if you're going to give up 35 points to Pat Mahomes, get in line, that's not the big deal. Can you score 35 with Pat Mahomes? And you hope that he's going to make mistakes. And he made a couple errand throws today.

I mean, he made some spectacular. He wasn't perfect, but he was fucking spectacular. I'll put it that way. And the Saints. Okay. here's why I trust him. And keep in mind, Drew Breeze just came off of 11 broken ribs and if you hadn't heard that.

Blackjacket. Flack jacket, the whole nine yards. He started 0 for five. He was cold. The Saints allowed the Chiefs to get like really whatever they wanted in the Red Zone. The Chiefs were 4 or 5 in the Red Zone and Breeze went 15 to 34 on the day. So an objectively bad day for Drew Breeze, even with some of the garbage time stuff, they were atrocious on third down.

and one of the very first third downs they get a pick that sets up points. So my point is all that and they had a chance at the end. All that and they had a chance at the end against the Chiefs. You could say that

the way the Chiefs are playing all year though. They don't, they're not varying anybody. And maybe I'm wrong. Usually it's, and Tampa did the same thing, but you trust the bucks. They closed the distance late. I like the idea that they played them already. I really do.

I think that helps a ton just seeing what he does behind there and I see because when you said you got to keep pace with him I think you got to and I think you got to keep pace from defensively against him because you have to be able to change up things

you have to be able to change up where you bring pressures from and you have to constantly make him uncomfortable but did the yes I agree with you I agree with you but then there's games where the bucks just don't get home and I don't get it so like with the Saints

my thing is they got after Mahomes' ass and you're talking about 18 pressures or whatever it was or like he was just like shout out to my boy Trey Hendrickson also with two sacks how about that hit man yeah do you think that at some

you think they're going to put them in the pro bowl because I know sometimes you know confirmation by a there's no way there's a pro bowl this year no but I mean they did not put them in the pro bowl but vote him in you know it's nice when they say for whatever the fuck that game means that pro bowl or X.

You know how many times I've gone on the radio and I've been like, what are they going to intro me as? Because they're like, fuck, he never made a pro bowl? Like, I can't say that at the beginning.

Like, it's just the biggest racket, but I would love to see Tray get one. He's got, he had 10 and a half coming in. I think he had one of that look with the tight long sleeves and no gloves,

no tape on his hands? It's one of the most swagless looks of all time. It's amazing to me. But I love it. And he's wearing 91. And when we had Cam Jordan on here, I'm very proud to say,

I said early the season, you know, how's Trey? He's like, well, Cam was like, well, I know he watched a lot of Carrigan and Chris Long. I know he watches y'all's tape nonstop. It's true. He's got the swipe. He's got all that stuff. And I hope he gets, yeah. And I hope he gets the, I hope he gets the, the, the notoriety for it. And he's not just a guy that although it helps to rush opposite Cam, hey, that's sack late in the game that was game changing for them didn't happen with Cam on the other side because Cam threw that punch. Yeah. And was ejected. By the way, a lot of times you can get away with that. He was kind of unlucky.

You would know. And the point, yeah, I would know. I've been ejected twice. I didn't get away with it sometimes. But the point is with Mahomes, if you notice his drop target, I don't know if you ever watch this. He gets his line in trouble. He gets his own line in trouble a lot, and fans at home don't know shit

about drop targets. One of my biggest pet peeves, watching rushers and watching quarterbacks, hearing people complain about Mitchell Schwartz getting beat five times, because Mahomes got hit. Mahomes, when he got sacked by

Trey Hendricks had late in the game, you know what his drop target was? 12 yards. Do you know what you're supposed to rush to? Like a winning rush in one-on-one pass rush, they put the fucking tennis ball for you to pick up

at 7 and a half yards. A quarterback sets at 8 and climbs the 6, depending on who it is. Pat Mahomes drifts to 12, and I get it because he has to make plays, but that gets him hit a lot. And the Saints knew how to rush him,

him and his drop target. So that's why I would say, like, I think they can hit him enough times to make and make mistakes. They got a puncher's chance. And all the mistakes they made today, they're still in it. So, I mean, golly. It was one amazing thing, like talking about Andy Reid and Eric Bianney me, they never get offensive linemen downfield.

Yeah. Like, their O line does an amazing job at that. Yeah. Like, I could be wrong. I don't look at the numbers of those stats, but they never get called for that. And they run the most unorthodox stuff. That's, that's what I'm saying. Like, normally those guys are just, oh, screw it.

Let's go down the field. But it's amazing to me. It stood out today. And like I watched a couple times, the center, like just standing there. And you know what they do a lot? They peel back. Mm-hmm.

Because they know it's, they have to do a drill with something like that, where it's time. And it's like, all right, I got beat. I'm going to turn around. now because, I mean, it's not cheaper or anything, but they're going to get guys because they know he is creating all that time and space behind them. And it's, it's amazing to watch. I do. I think we're so lucky to watch Reed and Peyton go at it. And it wasn't the prettiest game ever. But you could just see it. I just like, there were some things I saw the Chiefs do today.

And it's every week. I just want to like do a segment where it's like, I just want to list the fucked up shit they do to defenses. I mean, the first drive, by the way, the drive out of the half, the two drives out of the half were like just clinics. And it just goes to show you, when teams go back to the locker room, I'm judging coaches

on like when I see that first drive out of the half. Shottie did a great job today. Shottie hats off to him who's been much maligned sometimes because he wouldn't let Russ cook and now he's letting Russ cook too much and then today he's doing it just right, cooking it just right. Those two drives coming out of the half

were unbelievable. You talk about New Orleans just right down the field. But then Kansas City, it's that reinforcement of, oh yeah, great drive. We got one that's better. Like, you'd put together your best drive of the day and now you're hoping to go get a three and out and turn the tide. And we're going to do the same fucking thing. And we're going to do it sexier. And we're going to finish it with something cool. And that's why I think New Orleans, though, is a threat to Kansas city because you talk about like smash mouth physical but you can't just be a three yards in a cloud of dust team because too many of those come up empty what new Orleans does well is they create a run game in so many different ways you know like the screen game you know um kamara's like two

positions in one yeah that's why i think they can hang with them but look at what mahomes did man look at some of these throws man the the third and nine the third and the third and 15 the touchdown to Hardman. The touchdown to Hardman, he literally is backpedaling with 94 on him. He has to wait for, he has to wait for Watkins and Kelsey to clear, and both of them think they're getting the ball.

And he's just like, uh, no, no, no, no, no. He just drew into the spot and the back in the end zone, that was incredible. Behind you. He also had a third down to Watkins over to the middle. The third nine. Yeah, just the little here, I want to put you right over that. I'm going to drop it. That's a different one.

Yeah, I mean, they're unbelievable. You've got you've got an option right off the snap. It was like a stationary pitch to Kelsey down in the goal line. You also had a speed-off. It was like a Gene Hackman and Hoosier's chest pass. Yes, dude. It was a basketball pass. And then you do like a

by the way, bad movie. I think I just lost you for the interview. Stop. I don't like the movie. Speech wasn't is overrated as well. Okay. That's great. That's great. It's just like and all the actors are like clear on plenty of things. All the actors are clearly like 24. They look actually 30.

which makes sense but not high school kids don't like the movie let me just move on to not get you it's football season okay football season I also don't like remember the Titans of course you know of course I don't give me some North Dallas 40

so you know all this crazy stuff they do the speed option with the underneath shovel here was the thing here was the thing for me the hidden thing that this guy hasn't forgot it. Anne Salone, the special teams guy, felt terrible for him. He's trying to jump on the ball before the half.

First off, everybody's looking at him like, well, five points. I don't know if everybody's doing this, but I'm bringing it up. Five points is the difference in the game, right? He picks that ball up. That's a touchdown. Instead, it's a safety, and it was an absolute gift. But the idiot is actually the guy running backwards with the ball fielding a punt under 20 seconds to go. Those are the mistakes that will get Kansas City beat.

And that's why I always say about Kansas City is they're just a little bit willy-nilly sometimes for my liking. No doubt. It's like an old man yelling at a cloud. And by the way, that'll be my hollow man for today. Anne Salone, Hollow Man. I feel terrible about it. I feel terrible, but I know what you're thinking. You're thinking I got to get my body between the goal, the end line and the ball, and you're in such a rush to beat the ball to the end line that you just don't fall on it. Yeah. No doubt.

That ended up being the difference. So another question for Kansas City, Clyde Edwards, He-E-Lair. What the hell was going on? It didn't look good. I didn't look good. Did it? I walked out of the room. I didn't see it.

So, D-Line got lost in the shuffle. They played great, too. So Kansas City, still probably, after Pittsburgh's recent troubles, the favorite in the AFC. Let me ask you this then,

because you asked me who I trust the most in the NFC, who do you trust the least in the AFC out of that playoff picture? Oof, that's a really good question. I got a lot of them. Obviously, man, I want to say, see, that's why I asked you the NFC because I feel like the AFC is an absolute free-for-all.

I really would not be, like, yeah, I'd be shocked if Cleveland went to Kansas City and won or Tennessee went to the Super Bowl but I also think I don't trust Indianapolis You know what? It's funny, dude. Can anybody trust the Steelers right now?

Am I like listen, I've been one of the last people to even look into the water over the edge of the boat Like I'm still on the boat Look, fuck, I got them in the Super Bowl So I kind of got to. Is that a thing like in sports media? Do I still get credit if I jump off the manwagon

for my preseason pick. I just act like I never jumped off the bandwagon? Why, you want to? No, I don't really want to, but you could make a case for them being just completely untrustworthy. Run games has been an issue. They play down. You know, and that's not necessarily playing down

isn't necessarily what the postseason is about. The defense certainly travels. They played two games in like five days, and people forgot about that recently, and they look bad. Yeah. No, I trust them. I trust them. The Ravens are still riding off two Browns wins, essentially,

and a Colts win, a team that was struggling when they beat them. So I think the Ravens are maybe... If they played tomorrow at a neutral site, Cleveland, Baltimore, who are you picking? Baltimore. I'm picking Baltimore. I am because I just... You trust their defense? I just trust their defense to get healthy.

Although I think they're bullies and they got to prove it to me that they can beat somebody outside the Browns. Yeah. Like I know we're moving the goalposts a little bit. Hey, fucking Lamar played great the other night. Right off the shitter, if you believe that. Fourth and two, you know,

bait to defense. I couldn't believe they threw the ball there. I thought that was an unbelievable call. I thought 100% he was running it. Hard not to love the dude. I mean, listen, the player,

you got you, there's questions. Did you see him today? They brought in the kid Hunley who's a rookie from Utah quarterback. He was running around like it was backyard football. And, you know, he got a series at the end of the game. Lamar

couldn't stop laughing on the sideline. It was, it was so awesome. You just seemed like a great guy to play with. You know what I mean? Like, you just... Oh, his hell. So, I mean, I, again, I'm glad they won that game. I still would put them on the trust index pretty low because of...

And another thing with the Saints, it's hard to call them trustworthy, ironically, because they've had the most crushing exits in the playoffs the past few years. But, but, and I know it's a bit of a pattern, they had no control over the Rams thing. And I think if they go play that Super Bowl, and believe me, I get annoyed because Damasecicchek will do this.

Damashik's like, well, Maurice Jones Drew said that, you know, he thinks the Jags would beat you guys that year if they beat the Patriots and got in the super. I'm like, get the fuck out of here. We would drag the Jaguars by their, I would drag those motherfuckers out of the stadium by their face masks. Leonard Fournett and an inside run and Blake Bordles, Blake's my dog, but we would have got after their ass. Nick Foles would have just, he would have had his way.

But I will say this, as much as I'm not a fan of doing the hypothetical thing because the Saints have also done it to us and, well, beat the Vikings and don't let the music, the Minnesota miracle happen. Those were tough ways, those were tough ways to exit. They weren't like they just got beat. But teams have seen that happen. and that's why I know nobody is afraid of anybody at that level, but like there's even, I think Aaron Rogers is way more fear than the Saints offense.

No doubt about it. He's way more fear, but on the other end, you have a defense that can be competitive. Gotcha. You know, and you're just more of a complete team. So, yeah.

Yeah, I probably trust in the AFC, gosh, relative to their value I might, to their seating, I might trust the Steelers the least, followed by the Browns. Actually, I try, I might trust the Browns the least, dude. I hate to do that to them. I hate to do that to them. But you know what? The AFC has a bunch of teams that can win it all or lose the first round.

You know, Titans included with their defense. You know, you talk about the Colts. You don't trust them. I'm starting to trust them more. So one of us is wrong. What's your dream, Super Bowl? Wow, great question. again Christopher.

Yeah, I'm full of them, dude. I'm like bursting at the scenes with great questions. Is it bad if I say I don't want to see Kansas City in the Super Bowl? No, it's not bad. It's not bad at all. I just wouldn't want to see what I saw today again. Something about that game doesn't interest me that much. Yeah, I just...

It's really actually not as hard as you think once I tell you. Really? What, your Super Bowl prediction, Steelers, Seahawks? No, I mean, besides, my Super Bowl prediction. And by the way, I had the score and everything. I don't remember what it was, but that's the Detroit Super Bowl rematch from when I was in college and Ben through for like 100 yards and they won.

It's one of the worst Super Bowls of all time. It might be, no, no, I went. The only Super Bowl I ever went to, remember when you got that award? Yeah, which one was that? You talking about the 13 to 3 game? Yes. That was more exciting than Seahawks Broncos. I hated the Seahawks back then because we used to beat them.

then they'd go and win the Super Bowl by 40. I was in a Miami hotel room with a buddy watching that Super Bowl, and I just could not stop drinking. I was so depressed by the fact that a team from our division was winning Super Bowls, and we was, yeah, I'm going to- Packers-Bills. Wow. Packers-Bills would be absolutely incredible. Oh. And Bill's Brown's AFC Championship.

Oh, bro. All the. cold weather fucking hearty folks that have been you basically get the proletariat versus the bourgeoisie when it comes to like overweight men that like to be outside with their shirts off in the winter. I'm tweeting right now. I'm tweeting it right now. It's the Green Bay guys. It's the Green Bay guys that are used to

being outside and getting hypothermia drunk at a game, but they do it for something. They've been doing it for something. They have rings. And then it's the Buffalo guys who've been doing it for nothing. I've been doing it for nothing. been doing it for nothing. I would love to see that matchup. I'd rather see Bill's Browns than any Super Bowl matchup. And people ask who's got the best shot to beat the Chiefs, and this isn't a flavor of the month thing.

Guess who's getting hot again, the bills? Defense is bad. Linebackers are healthy. Like they, yeah. And you know McDermic could coach some defense. Absolutely. And, you know, who would have thought that they would give up 10 more points a game for most of the year?

this year. It makes no sense. There's got to be a return to some like average. Even if it's five more points a game, they could just be a little bit better and they could do enough if Josh gets hot here. So that would be a dream. You said it. It's all about the matchups. New England's out. Ding, for a lot of people, ding dong the witch is dead. Yeah. And your, your boys down there, dethroned them. How about that? How about that? A, any way you could get a win. You know this. It was anyway.

And honestly, I thought this was a nice learning experience for Tua. You know, they come down and early in the game. They get a, throw the ball right at J.C. Jackson, basically. We chase Winnihivich hanging all over him. Late in the game, it comes full circle. They get a chance to put these guys away. They bring pressure. J.C. Jackson unblocked off the edge.

pumps him and gets him in the air. So same player that robbed him earlier. He got the last laugh in the end zone and you never jump as a rusher. It's the hardest thing in the world, but they always tell you if you're a free runner, do not jump. Don't fall for the pump fake run through him.

It's impossible to do because we jack everybody off who gets a PBU like it's a Hall of Fame play. Like JJ Watts is one of the best players of all time, right? J.J. Watt, I never got moved by him knocking balls down. but the average fan just oh you see how many pbues this guy's got do you know what pbues why pbues happen because you're nowhere near the quarterback usually it's it's like the it's like my infatuation with block shots and basketball it's so overrated is our block shots overrated in basketball i think so well it can't be as overrated as a pb u and i'm not saying overrated for the value of the team

but a pb u is one of the most overrated stats for an individual player for the value of a team it doesn't mean anything from a skill standpoint. It just means that you were in the window and you jumped up and you're tall. Montez Sweat and JJ Watt. JJ Watt is one of the best rushers I've ever seen. I was just never like, oh man, look at the way he breaks up passes.

Long arms. Montes Sweat might be like George Mirosan's nephew or something. Because that motherfucker is knocking down passes like he, he's going to start doing the finger wag like JJ. But that was huge for Tua because I mean, you knock off And listen, Miami did it last year But it was with Fitsy

And they did it to a better New England team With a worst Miami team But this is that monkey on their back Where it's like, we get to kill them For the rest of the country in the division And you know, they damn near did it Bill's way One with like seven field goals But a huge win for B-Flow

They're alive, they've got to win out probably And Xavier and Howard Who I don't know if you saw that that D-P-O-Y God. Holly, he might be in the conversation. He has to be. He is in the conversation. He is a pick every week.

Who you put the, I got four, who you got, my top four. Oh, man. It should be pretty stand. It should be T.J. Watt, Aaron Donald, Miles Garrett, and Xavier and Howard. The only thing I would hold against Miles, and I'm not saying, because I have a hard time, like, judging how, and Miles is my guy. But I have a hard time judging what, how you win the award. do you win it? Can your defense be pretty lacklust or two?

That's a dicey thing. The other three guys, their defenses are really good. And that's not a reflection on Miles. Like, I'm not saying that, but just traditionally, it's hard to give it. And Xavier and Howard, I mean, he's doing unprecedented things. Yeah. Here's the thing. In a league where how many more passes are thrown than five years ago.

Exactly. And there's a lot more pressure on those guys. What a big difference Stefan Gilmore did. Stefan Gilmore gave the Pats a ring, okay? Like, Stefan Gilmore, and by the way, he went down in a non-contact, I haven't gotten an update on that, but it didn't. It wasn't good either.

Stefan Gilmore, this guy in Buffalo who was always thought of as a really good player, gets the national spotlight, gets good pieces around him, but he's the reason at this point making that run for them, that they were able to take, you know, your best player away,

bring all types of exotic, aggressive pressures, that sort of thing, like B-Blitz-heavy, play man. It's because they have a guy like that. And having that guy down there, and as big as the Byron Bell, Byron Jones, excuse me,

Byron Bell's an offensive lineman. I think they used to play for the Panthers, and it's late. But Byron Jones hadn't had a pick since, and you can't just measure things off of a pick. It's taken the pressure off of Byron Jones. Because Byron Jones, if he was alone out there, first pick since 2017 or whatever it was,

or 18 last week. People, it's just a bigger deal, but the whole defense is playing well. Xavier and Howard makes a play every week that just your jaw drops. He made such a DPOI play this week, just stripping the football on a cam completion in the middle of the field, just the timely plays that they need every week. I would say, honestly, it's coming down to him and T.J. Watt, in my opinion. Yeah, T.J.'s got a big stage for Monday night football tomorrow night, too. Because I don't think Miles got a sack tonight. I'm not, I could be totally wrong.

Yeah, it's wrapping up as we speak, and I'm not even going to really talk about that game. It just looks all types of ugly. Cleveland took care of business. Washington football teams is in driver's seat, baby. Yeah, they are. And I thought it was really smart sitting Alex this week, too. Probably. They can still win everything. Yep.

I think they finished with the Eagles and let's see. Who do they have left? Cowboys? Eagles and the Cowboys, I believe. Rams, we talked about the Rams. They finished with. By the way, the Rams uniform. look beautiful today.

Yeah, what the hell were they doing wearing those awful practice? It looked like laundry uniforms. You don't like the bone. No, they're awful. Give me white. Give me gray. Don't give me dirty white.

I actually think it's working pretty well for them. I hate to tell you that because there was, there's nobody that loved the throwback Rams jerseys as much as I did. Like when we wore those, the Eric Dickerson's, I felt like. But you guys never wore the white ones. No, and that and they, that from a distance

on the high camera today looked like the old Nolan Cromwell Yes You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying They've never worn those You guys always wore the blue I know it was pretty cool

To see them do something like it It's just different And honestly I don't know if it's because Jalen Ramsey looks cool As fucking that uniform And how could Aaron Donald Not look cool

Like they got enough guys That they got some likable players Out there man Between Cooper Cup and Robert Woods Two of my favorite receivers In the league this kid Acres who got a couple, I mean, that guy was unlucky as hell today. He looks faster in the pros than he did in college.

Yeah, he didn't have much worth of run because his old line was so bad in college. Maybe that's what it was. Maybe that's what it was. Oh, and the last thing with New England, I'm sure a lot of New England fans were like, the season basically ends on a Cam Newton sack. You know, like, it's just been, it's been that kind of year. And what's really fucked up about that whole situation if you're a Patriots fan is the the the bucks were just kicking off after having scored however many points in the second half 31 27 they just go up they're kicking off they basically completed a comeback with the Tommy you know umpah bay down there and you are losing your first division crown in X amount of years to the dolphins and it was just one of those full circle

moments. The Pats have had two of those in two years. Last year was Kansas City clinching home field basically. As they were losing. As they were losing to the dolphins. And this year, they're losing to the dolphins. And on the other end of things, Tom is completing a comeback. So for whatever that's worth, it's just a weird year. It is. And Antonio Brown got going today. It's only going to hit weirder. Yes. So I saw a good sign today. It said, you think 2020 was bad wait till 2020 turns 21 and starts drinking. Can we, do you think our parents will let us get together and drink in 2020? Steve?

Man, I know I want to. I'd love to, I think last time we hung out feels like eight years ago was in New Orleans for the fucking national championship game. For real. Yeah, we're coming up on a year on that. That's crazy. It's a good trip. We've got to find a way to get down in New Orleans.

Yeah. Shout out to our boy T-CAP. Shout out to all the New Orleans folks down there. You guys owe us another trip. Yeah. Maybe things get taken care of here and me and Steve will do a live show in New Orleans. I'm in. Okay.

All right. Get one of them planes. Yeah, one of them planes. One of those Van Pelt planes? Yeah. The Van Pelt have one of those planes? Hey, his dog, Otis. Yeah.

He said, yeah. Like. Shut up. Shout out to Otis. I mean, I could be asking how he's doing with COVID. I hope he's fine. He's good. But I'm asking about his dog who tours ACL.

Chase Winovich is supposed to come on the pod later this week to talk about selling a dog treadmill. And I want to be the first celebrity dog treadmill brokerage company. I think it's pretty clear to me that Otis needs a treadmill. Yeah. Otis gets treated very well. Don't you worry. Talk to the big fella. Just put in a word about the treadmill.

I get a commission on every dog. treadmill I sell Winnevich is trying to unload one you get the idea we'll do it all right we'll uh we'll see we'll see we'll see a Friday for the gambling show uh yes and uh I heard you were hesitant had a good I heard you were hesitant about Yellowstone just watch the show like seriously the first the first the first show is like a fucking soap opera watch it the first the first the first what else is like what else are you doing I don't know somebody said I look like the guy that got wasted over some cattle in the first episode you know the guy one of his kids

yeah one of his kids the one that got wasted did the bottle of whiskey the one thing I will be I am upset they're trying to tell me that nobody

all those cowboys on that show nobody dips disappointing I dip maybe I should be on Yellowstone I probably I probably bring some some charisma to some of these scenes

fuck me dude I don't even know if I can act but I mean I figure you would watch the show after they film it out of your house We don't stay in Yellowstone. All right, buddy. I'll see you later this week for the gambling. My man, I appreciate you.

All right, you too. See you.