Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Week 15 Recap! Raiders Stun Patriots, Jags Beat Cowboys, Texans Scare Chiefs & Argentina's World Cup.

Episode Date: December 19, 2022

(2:15) - Thank You Listeners and Thank You Cash App! (8:57) - Best Weekend for Sports & America's Teams. (31:39) - Hunger Games Comes for Some NFL Team's Playoff Hopes. (39:30) - NFL WK15 Review: Jag...s Beat Cowboys, Raiders Stun Patriots, NFC East Playoff Outlook & More! (1:47:52) - Miller Lite Mentions! Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b   Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42   Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1   Green Light with Chris Long:   Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. https://www.greenlightpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:51 Tennessee, y'all 2. 1-8009-9-8789. Welcome to the Greenlight Podcast. Cowboy. NFL Week 15 recap right here with Chris and Kyle Long. A whole bunch of comebacks this weekend. Lots of games in overtime. We had even a couple games on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:01:11 The World Cup. Mega overtime. We covered all those games. We sound the horn for a couple of teams. Those teams can kiss their 2022 NFL playoff. Chances goodbye because the Greenlight podcast has sounded the Hunger Games canon for them. We had some America's teams. We do our mentions.
Starting point is 00:01:28 And we've got a big announcement that you'll hear in just a moment. big big big that we're super stoked about and we hope you all are too much love all right i just want to start to show off with a little bit of an announcement and i would you know like i promise you i'm not bullshit and when i say i largely do this for the love of the game i don't have to do this you don't have to do this i mean we could go sit at home because i need this yeah okay we do like emotionally but like like financially i don't need this yeah yeah i want this i want to make money doing this i want to win. You know, I started out doing this because I wanted to win. I wanted to be like a big podcasting tycoon. But now I just want to fucking make an awesome podcast that people love and that
Starting point is 00:02:48 y'all riding your cars and, you know, and listen to and you set your clocks to, to listen to us, talk about football every Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday and Friday during the season now. But like, I take a lot of pride in our show. I don't care about the bottom line. I'm not currently looking up. I look down one step at a time. and just try to advance the ball. Cash app is joining the family here. The victim Monday. This is one of these moments where I am looking up a little bit
Starting point is 00:03:19 and saying, damn, we're making good money doing this. We've got a partner like Cash App that wanted to come and partner with us. Like, why would they want to do that? Little old me, little us? Sometimes it's okay to look up and be like, damn, we're doing a good job. You know, tomorrow I'll get back to looking down
Starting point is 00:03:37 and putting one foot in front of the other trying to put out great content for y'all because it's about us the people in this room and the listeners um and this cash app partnership is going to be about us too and and by us i mean the listeners as well because there's going to be opportunities for get cash giveaways and that sort of huge cash give oh yeah huge and and i yeah and i am like when i heard yeah cash app wants to do something with you uh and the fact that some of the people at cash up listen to the podcast i was hype because it really does lend legitimacy to what we do. There's not much of a more legitimate brand than Cash App.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I know because I've used it for years. For years. I've moved money with Cash App for years. You know, Venmo is always like, hey, you can't do this, you can't do that. Well, Cash App's like, do whatever the fuck you want. As a matter of fact, you can do a lot more with Cash App than what you would imagine.
Starting point is 00:04:31 It's not just a peer-to-peer service, right? You can invest with Cash App. That's right, Kyle. And I love the giveaway portion. because we are building a community here and something you've been undertaking for quite some time and the listeners are a huge part of that
Starting point is 00:04:43 and cash app is here to make that relationship even more organic and you can really, you know, it's something you can cut through, right? You can see it, you can feel it. It's cash app. It's tangible. Tangible giveaways, it's huge. I'm just, Kyle, I, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:58 when we started this thing, we started it and it came in here one day. It was just me, Reed, and John, right? Was that it? Yeah, yeah, at the beginning. What year is that? 2019, October 2019. In the year zero.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Yeah, it's zero. And we didn't know what the fuck we were doing, starting with me. And, you know, like, I don't think we knew what we were doing starting with me for like a year and a half solid. But we just worked our way, like we just legitimately grinded our way here. And now look at the back wall. We've got three legit brands. We've got brands all over the back wall.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Pretty awesome. And Cash App. being a part of the family like means a lot because uh i don't know means it means we're legit and i feel yeah i feel like like uh it's like being in a fight and the biggest guy in the room's on your team yeah Kyle thank you you're like cash app i've always waited for a big guy to come help me in a fight yeah you never do yeah you got to be the big guy uh but cash app is that big guy for us and i'm i'm just really excited it's it's it means a lot because because we We've all worked hard to get here, Reed, Scott, Matt,
Starting point is 00:06:10 Brian, Ralph, the whole team, am I forgetting anybody? You know, even guys that are- Macon, making, obviously, who's- We'll talk about that, he's not in this morning, but, you know, Taylor, who's up in New York, decided to leave us, paid up on his blow-up doll situation. John O'Leary, who's out west, we love John so much. And, you know, there's been people that have come and gone,
Starting point is 00:06:35 They've all had a hand in this thing. And although maybe not everybody's going to see some of that cash at money. We are, and I'm hyped about that, dude. I'm so excited. And the listeners are going to see some of that cash at money. And as football people, we're just... And you guys did this, too, though, honestly. We believe in the 24-hour celebration rule, but then it's back to business.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Today, we're going to do the show while we do the 24-hour celebration. So we're celebrating a little this morning with you guys and amongst our spouse. Moment of silence for humility. Okay. Yeah. We did it, man. We honestly, read, we had like, I don't know, the first podcast, how many people listened to that thing? It's probably up to, like, at least two or three hundred by now.
Starting point is 00:07:18 It's crazy. Not many. We're just screaming into a fucking void. Into a void. We had you on one ISO, just making jokes, a couple giggles, but not much, and have expanded since then. But, yeah, it's nice to have the listeners giving us this opportunity with, Cash App. Yes.
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Starting point is 00:09:17 Yeah. Very cool song. Very cool song. What's it about? I think it's about a trading vessel that was wailing somehow, and then there was a crash. Yeah. And then this awesome ballad was written by Gordon Lightfoot. Well, didn't think we were going to talk about Gordon Lightfoot on the pod this morning.
Starting point is 00:09:34 It used to a trading vessel. It kind of reminds me a cash app. A lot like Cash App. Yeah. And we're like Gordon Lightfoot this morning. And the legend lives on. See, Kyle, it all, it all, works together.
Starting point is 00:09:45 I have a layup line too. This is, you will never work in television, which is true about me, at least, Kyle, you not so much. This is the band, The Smile,
Starting point is 00:10:16 which I don't love the name of that band, but it is Tom York. It is Tom York. Tom York has a new project, and Ryan Russollo sent me some music at night and i want to give him a big shout out for this because i fucking love it dude he got me into radio head like a year and a half ago so that's tom york's fame is radio head yes dude and
Starting point is 00:10:40 kyle do you like do you like radio head i don't even i couldn't name a song i'm going to give you a whole i'm going to give you a playlist okay um but this this is great man we need new music so bad i need new music so bad every every day and the fact that tom york is making more music and this this this project sounds great. You know, there's some radiohead influence for sure. Go check out the smile if you like Radiohead, if you like Tom York. I love it. Yeah. I'm going to listen to Radiohead, Tom. Kyle, you want to start with America's teams? Yeah, America's teams. A big day for international America's teams. You know what I'm saying? Big week for that. Number one will be the World Cup champions, Argentina. I don't know what their mascot is. I'm just going to say Argentina.
Starting point is 00:11:26 You know, it's the world's team. They are in South America, so they are considered to be an America's team. We do possess the best player of all time. Lionel Messi. He's an American. South American, American nonetheless.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Also, a big shout out to the Argentina keeper, Emiliano Martinez. He was in the stands last time in 2018 when France won the World Cup, and then he ended their dreams with a fabulous save at the end. Some say it might have been better than LeBron's block in the finals.
Starting point is 00:11:53 That guy, can you imagine living in Argentina, and doing that and going home and being like, I'm good for the rest of my life. Forever. It's like the 85 bears. They are the 85 bears now. Times a million.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Or can you imagine being in Qatar and using the trophy as a dick replica? That was amazing. Yeah, I was like all the guys in the white rows were like off with his head. Yes. They were like, let's get you on the plane. Okay. So the number two of America's teams, we're going to bring it back to the red, white, and blue.
Starting point is 00:12:21 The Detroit Lions, again, they're on the list. They just continue to show up. one of the worst teams in football early on in the season. They found a way to just pull themselves up by their American-made bootstraps, and it's all because of Dan Campbell, Jared Goff. You know what, I just love this team. Number two, Americans team of the Lions. Number three, the Houston Texans.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Yeah, they don't win ever. Yeah, they're terrible. I won't once. But I like Lovey Smith. I enjoy watching Davis Mills play. And they always give Americans who anticipated a blowout a great fucking game. Don't forget Driscoll. So, yeah, Driscollicle, big old ass.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Driscoll. They put them in the wild. at the wildass formation and they just run them around. And then you get the number four team, Megan and Harry. Yeah? You know, they're Americans now. They in the news again? Well, Tyler Perry brought him to his house and they've been here.
Starting point is 00:13:09 So under squatters rights or laws, they're American now. Yeah. And what's more American than going for broke on a Netflix special where you just absolutely degrade your family? That is so true, Kyle. Mine's coming out soon. Yeah, so number five. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:24 We'll sign some paperwork for that. And number five has got to be cash app. You know, I wish I could put them number one, but I wanted to cap off this segment with another cash app. Shout out. Thank you for partnering with us. And for those listeners at home, it's going to be a lot of good stuff coming from us and cash up.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Kyle, that was succinct. It was beautiful. Thanks. I have a Zenon for the first time in like a week. And holy shit. I feel like I'm at Bonneroo right now. Fucking go, baby.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I mean, silent disco. Okay. And I'll tell you why. Okay. Number one, America's team, Advil. Okay, I had the flu this week. I had your boy survived the flu.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Flu 22. Flu 22 is like, it's like being on Iowa-Waska, Kyle. I feel like my whole way of thinking has changed. That should have me so confused. I felt like I was sweating in a den with Aaron Rogers. Did you say you had the COVID fog? No, it was the flu legitimately. I had like multiple COVID negatives.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I spent the week sweating in my, room in my layer the whole thing but being being sick uh this week it was kind of like you haven't seen one flu over the cuckoo's nest i'm aware of its significance yeah well i feel like jack uh jack nickleson uh after they took him upstairs like i'm changed forever i don't know if it made me a better person but i'm i'm not a bad boy anymore like something about this flu broke me kyle i almost had you come over to be my chief which you wouldn't get you you wouldn't get that joke unless you watched one flu over the cuckoo's nest. I was on the list.
Starting point is 00:14:58 I was in a lot of pain. But I'm not a bad guy anymore. I barely smoked marijuana. I gambled smart all week. That's good. I want to stay home. There's things I just don't want to do that I used to want to do. And getting as sick as I got, I feel like has just fundamentally changed me.
Starting point is 00:15:17 What am I going to do now? What am I going to set the thermostat to? I had it like 78 all weekend. Now I got to decide things like, you know, what temperature to? I want my room to be. I'm institutionalized, Kyle. Polar Vortex coming too, so if I can get ready to, you know, nut up and be uncomfortable for you. I'm vaccinated against the flu now. And I'm going to miss Advil. Adville is a wonderful drug. It also tastes great. I don't know if you, if you guys share that sentiment with me.
Starting point is 00:15:44 How much sugar is in an Advil? I don't know, but they're delicious. Yeah. They are delicious. Last night, I tried to take a Benadryl, and I almost choked on it. It was disgusting. Did you have to boof it? No, I didn't have to boof it. You choked on it while boof. The abel with the sugar coating. That stuff is so good. Oh, it's so good.
Starting point is 00:16:00 It's so good. And it works. I was living off that shit. I was living off that shit. Can you imagine? Modern medicine is amazing. I don't take medicine a lot. I'm not like some Christian scientists,
Starting point is 00:16:12 but boy, do I feel bad for people that don't take medicine. We had a kid in my high school that wouldn't take any medicine? He was like, wouldn't he a Christian scientist? Yeah, absolutely. If he got sick like I got, he'd just be sick. sweating it out. Yeah. Okay, America's team number two, Netflix, again, related, because I was in my layer all week, and I watched every movie under the sun, dude. I'm going to give you a list of the best movies I saw while I was sick this week. Shadow of Violence, has anybody heard of that movie?
Starting point is 00:16:40 It's an Irish movie. It's about a guy that beats people up for an Irish family. Sounds Irish. Kyle, remember when Alan Richardson was supposed to be you? Yeah. Okay, no, the guy in, the guy in shadow of violence, uh, it would actually play you. He's a lot shorter, I think in real life, but,
Starting point is 00:16:56 but there's your guy. So go ahead, Kingston, look him up and let me know if you agree. A bullet train with Brad Pitt. Uh, I saw that movie. I heard it was cool.
Starting point is 00:17:05 It was a good time. It was a good time. The guy in that movie, Lemon stole the show. Kyle, that's you. Kyle, that guy's you.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Stretched out you neck. Yeah, that guy's you. Um, the vanishing. The Vanishing is a movie with Gerard Butler. Tell me more about Brad Pitt, the bullet train. Was it a sexy Brad Pitt or was it a serious Brad Pitt?
Starting point is 00:17:27 Was it like fighting Brad Pitt? Well, it's all sultry sexy to me. He was a fighting Brad Pitt, but he was like, deliver the lines as he's fighting. You know, beat a guy up with a suitcase. Catch frame. And be like, do I have to check this luggage? You know, like stuff like that. It was a good movie.
Starting point is 00:17:44 It was a good movie. It was kind of unrealistic, but it was a good movie. The Vanishing is a movie with, would, would, Gerard Butler, and he works at a lighthouse in like the early 1900s, and I will never work at a lighthouse. People lose their fucking minds when they work at a lighthouse. That's got to be a bottom five all-time job. Have you ever seen the movie with Wilm Defoe where he's at a lighthouse?
Starting point is 00:18:05 He lost his fucking mind, too. Is this the movie with the Twilight guy? Yes. Okay, so this one looks really dark, and I always see clips of it. Called The Lighthouse. I follow cinematic Instagrams, and they show me clips of this, and I'm like, I need to see it. It's on the lower tier of the. movies that I saw this week.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Total Recall, I saw that again. Okay, Kyle, Kyle's never seen Total Recall. What? Well, when I texted you, you were like, what movie is that from? Well, I texted you the little, the little psychic baby man. If you texted me a three-titty little person, I would say you're watching Total Recall. No, three-tittied lady is the, do you remember there was the woman with the three boobs at the bar?
Starting point is 00:18:42 The bad guy just killed her. Can't do that. Chicks with three breasts must be a dime a dozen. on Mars. But that's a great movie. Matt suggested Emily the Criminal. That was a good movie. We talked about that last week.
Starting point is 00:18:58 We've had multiple podcasts since I was knocked down. I watched 1922 as a Stephen King movie. That lasted 17 minutes. That's a big no. That's probably the worst movie I saw the whole time I was sick. But the best movie I saw when I was sick was the Alpinist. Kyle? I don't think you can handle this movie.
Starting point is 00:19:17 In what regard can't I handle this? movie. It's about heights. Is because Mark Andre Leclair climbs alone? Okay. Is it because... So, yeah, it's about... Gravity. It's mostly because I've taken you on a hike.
Starting point is 00:19:29 And when we got to the top, I said, Kyle, come check this view out. And I looked out and you were on your face. With both your hands and feet on the ground. And I was like, what's wrong? You're looking for something? You were like, I can't move. I drop my contact. You don't wear contact.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Because he doesn't like heights. But this movie, the Alpinist, and if you've seen Free Space, solo? I'm more into heights than I am people spalunking. I hate the videos of people like squeezing through caves. It just really fucking, God, you're not going to like these movies. Okay. This guy lives in a cave. Okay. So Alex Honnold came on the show, Free Solo's movie. Yeah, I remember that. Alex Honnold's incredible. Okay. So half dome. He did El Cap. He did Al Cap. The whole thing, I don't think, whatever these people, whatever you and I are born with where we're like afraid of certain things.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Like these people are not born with that gene. Okay, so Reed, his crunchy asses like, you got to see the alpinus. It's just like, you know, free solo, but crazier. This guy, Mark Andre LeClair, he's this guy from British Columbia that just decided he wanted to free solo all these really death-defying rock walls. And some of them are half covered in ice and the whole thing. When you say free solo, does he use ropes? No.
Starting point is 00:20:43 No. Not at all. He'll look at a mountain and just be like, I'm going to climb. to the top of that. You're fucking nuts. So he and, well, he was, Kyle. And, and here's the thing. When I started to watch the movie, I had no idea about the background of the whole thing. And so I'm watching the whole movie. And after he summited that, that peak in Patagonia, I'm like, man, I am so inspired by this guy. The movie's about over. I roll over and grab my phone and follow him on Instagram. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:21:09 he, I'm like, maybe we should have him on the show. He hasn't, he hasn't posted since 2018. I'm like, oh, he must really not like Instagram. He is that kind of guy. he doesn't like credit. And then the movie went on another five minutes and he's dead. Yeah, it is kind of a show. If you don't know... Is he stuck on a mountain somewhere? He got killed by an avalan.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Yeah. Yeah, if you go into that movie not knowing the outcome, then you are surprised by the... Because the whole time, it sounds like he's still there. And it was shot, like, it was shot literally up until him going on this trip to where he passed away. So everything was in like he's here. He's here. He's here.
Starting point is 00:21:44 In person or present tense, all that stuff. Half the movie was them trying to find the guy because he was just like, I'm not into doing this movie anymore. He just disappeared and went and climbed more mountains. And the producers of the movies were like, we got a tip. He was in like Alaska. He's like Justin Herbert as it pertains to like being interviewed.
Starting point is 00:21:59 It's like, social media alpinist. Social media. And I said he lives in a, in a cave because he did, he traveled to this one like climbing town in, in, uh, in Canada and everybody was standing at the hotel. But he,
Starting point is 00:22:13 he stayed up in a cave in an ice cave outside of town. He was, I mean, like, he is one of these people, you watch them go about their life and you're like, I'm not doing anything. Like, you know what I mean? This guy, I have no purpose. He lived 23 years, but he packed like 140 years of life into the 23 years. And my dumb ass is like, let's get him on the show. He's dead. Wouldn't the hula hooping part cool?
Starting point is 00:22:37 Yeah, I was like, he's good at hooloooping, too. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I bet there's a lot of time by yourself just working on skills. Man, I might, if I could do it over. might want to be like an alpinus but not have to do the free soloing like just hang out with all the alpinus and like camp with them and stuff and live off the grid like this guy had no money be a base camp cook yeah sure that's just chop veggies and boil stews yeah that's well you could be gerar butler
Starting point is 00:23:02 in that lighthouse movie too that's all he did was right chop literally chopped vegetables and make stews and lose his fucking mind but uh yeah the alpinus was the best movie i saw this week i i saw a couple other things, but that's all I could produce with my cloudy brain. Argentina, America's team as well, beating France. Love that. You know, France is a really safe country to be like, I don't like the French. They're white people. They do bad stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Check. Yeah. And they're arrogant. They've got a tower that serves no purpose. None. It's like falling over. It's just scaffolding. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:36 So anyways, Argentina, America. That was one of the best games I've seen matches of any type. the history of sports. So funny story about that game, we were live recording our show. We were live with our show, that other pregame show on Sunday morning during the game, and we're out there on set. And behind the set, there's a computer room with a bunch of TVs, and all the runners and stuff are watching the game.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Yeah. We're live, and we hear screaming from the back room. I didn't think to myself, oh, the World Cup's on. I thought something was going wrong in the office. Yeah, you're about to go John Wick. And I almost went John Wick in the middle of a live taping. But yeah, World Cup makes people do crazy shit. Oh, it's amazing.
Starting point is 00:24:16 And then I'll go UAB as an America's team. Anybody else see Trent Dofer's interview? No. Oh, man, we're in the Bahamas Bowl. And he's, like, hanging out on the sideline because he's about to be the head coach at UAB. And he, like, goes into this diatribe about how, like, you know, I don't know if you've watched the news lately,
Starting point is 00:24:33 and I don't care what news you're watching, but America's not doing real well right now. And, you know, we're going to fix that. You know, UAB's student athletes are going to blah, blah, blah. So help is on the way, America. Oh, you know. National hero. Cripling inflation, racism, two-party system, the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:24:50 I did see him show his Super Bowl ring to the cheerleader. Yes, I'm sure. Stop. Oh, maybe she asked for that, but, you A.B, one of America's teams. Help is on the way America in four years or whenever all these guys graduate at UAB and enter the workforce. Five, the Buffalo Bills. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Like, it's no secret. I don't want to see the Dolphins win. I don't want to see, you know, like, you made me this way. Okay? Like, you made me this way. They'll probably still make the playoffs. And that was a really impressive showing by the Dolphins. I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:25:25 The Dolphins, you know, Mike McDaniel did the whole, I want it colder thing. Everybody's scoffing at him. This was supposed to be a big snow game. It wasn't, not until the fourth quarter, really. But they went up there and they passed the test. The offense was physical. was the big thing. You know, you have a hundred yard rusher in the first quarter. Oh, he's good. Okay. You know, Jeff Wilson was out and people were already going to make
Starting point is 00:25:50 excuses for the dolphins. Rahim Moster was like, hey, I'm a fucking thousand-yard rusher, man. And the bills were down Jordan Phillips, and that was big in the run game. Also, one thing I would say is, you know, Kyle Brandt last week, it got some traction that he said, hey, the Von Miller might be a luxury, but not a necessity for the bills. No, he's a necessity. Because one thing that we thought was maybe, and with the crowd noise and the elements that Tua would be under siege and he wasn't, Tua did a nice job, man. He took a little bit to get his feet under him, but he threw some nice balls. You know, like whether it was that floater late in that ball game or the Tyreek touchdown. You know, he threw some nice balls, but he wasn't pressured the way Josh Allen was pressured.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Josh Allen was under siege, man. And that was the most ironic part of the game. And another reason why, you know, when you talk about the MVP, you can't discount Josh Allen. They had no run game. He was the run game. He was getting crushed, dude. Both Jalen Phillips and Zach Seiler had five pressures and Bradley Chubb added three and two apiece from John Jenkins, Melvin Ingram, and Christian Wilkins. Rousseau had three pressures.
Starting point is 00:27:01 And then two apiece from Ed Oliver, DeQuan Jones, Eponessa had one pressure. So they weren't pressuring Tua, but Josh Allen was under siege. and Josh Allen is probably the most fun guy to watch with the football and the NFL. He was their entire team, whether he was launching over a pile to go for that two-point conversion and meeting to Landon Roberts
Starting point is 00:27:20 or the throws he made. He was just electric. Buffalo Bills, one of America's teams, for sure. And then at the end, when, yeah, I mean, just MVP-like performance at the end to get him down the field, put him in position with all the stuff happening
Starting point is 00:27:38 with the inclement, weather. They're fun. Like you said, Josh Allen with the ball in his hand, it's must see TV. It is must see TV, man. And that was a beautiful scene. To the people that only want to see dome football, you should be ashamed of yourself. You tell them you sat there Saturday night, and you wish that was played in the fucking new era in Buffalo. But that was why, Dome Stadium, whatever it is, dude. That was outdoor football. That was beautiful. The snow started coming down in the fourth quarter. Do you have an issue with people throwing snowballs? I do. I do too.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Because these people aren't realizing that they were about to hurt their team. Yeah. You know, at one point they stopped the game and they're like, listen, the next time their snowball is thrown, we're going to penalize your team. And this is a tight ball game. And I'm thinking to myself, well, fuck, dude.
Starting point is 00:28:27 They said they're going to penalize the bills. There were a bunch of dolphins fans in there, too. If I was a dolphins fan, what I would say? They can't make it to the field with their snowball, no arm strength. Well, that's good, Kyle. Well, but they're very, but they're very, very accurate. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:40 So, they hit the usher every time. Well, if I was a Dolphins fan and I'm sitting behind the Dolphins bench, I'm going to start pelting my own players to draw a flag for the dolphins. Smart. Yeah. So anyways,
Starting point is 00:28:52 I thought that was a beautiful scene. All the snowballs, I'm okay with the snowballs flying in the air after scoring the whole thing. But there was a point in the game where dudes were trying to catch the ball. And there were some drops. There were two drops. Tyree Kill. Tyree Kill had a drop.
Starting point is 00:29:07 A lot of the year, I would say that to his receivers helped him get where he is. Saturday night, they actually left him short in a couple of situations. So I respect what the dolphins did. Up front, especially, it was almost like their offense was more ready for the cold weather than the Bill's defense was. It's like the same effect as having a backup quarterback.
Starting point is 00:29:33 We've talked about this time and time again. When you have a backup, your attention to detail goes up. When you're on the road playing in such adverse conditions, you know that you have to get off the bus with that mindset. The dolphins had that mindset. It wasn't enough to your point. But honestly, until the fourth quarter, the conditions were not that adverse. No, but it was cold.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Yeah, it was cold. Okay, like, you know what I mean? Cold sucks, period. I don't know. I love playing the cold. I would rather it be snowy and cold than just cold. Yeah, I love playing in the cold. You know, I love playing the cold?
Starting point is 00:29:57 Not a fast guy here, Kyle, and all the fast guys slow down in the cold. You're right. You know? So that was an awesome game. We won't go too far into that game because, It happened like a million days ago. It feels like there was a lot of sports since. It was twilight zone for sports this weekend.
Starting point is 00:30:12 A lot of shit happening. This is the best sports weekend of the year. You know, I'm not an athlete anymore per se. I did just join a softball league. But I'm a podcaster. And to podcasters, gut health is very important. My morning routine is very important. My breakfast is very important.
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Starting point is 00:32:16 I will watch none of it. Like, you couldn't make me watch it. I can tell you what happened. I only watch him for Kyler. I only watch for Kyler. Yeah, so if he's not there, it's not good. What gives? A couple backups, because Brett Rippin started for the Broncos.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Colt McCoy started for the Cardinals. He got injured. Trace him sorely, he had to come in. Toss a couple picks. Great pick by PS2, but Latavius Murray had a wonderful game looked like he came bad, looked like he was 23 years old again. And the Broncos finally came out came out with a win. But it wasn't very, it was all right. I got a question for you guys. Russell flew out his own dock to clear him for the for the concussion stuff. And then management said
Starting point is 00:32:59 you're not playing even though you are clear. They've got a, what is it, a quarter billion dollars invested in this guy. If Rippin comes out and does decent, which, you know, he did well enough to win, do you see any situation where Russell's doubt, is there anybody in the league who would take Russell or are they stuck with Russell? They're stuck with Russell. This is a marriage.
Starting point is 00:33:20 There's no team that would take a flyer on the contract. No, no. And maybe you sit Russell the rest of the year to protect your investment. But I thought this was interesting because this was like a game. I was talking to a buddy and we said this is the game
Starting point is 00:33:37 between two coaches that the loser might not have their job on Monday afternoon. And it's so interesting to me that Nathaniel Hackett is like, okay, my job's on the line. Russ cleared concussion protocol. There's a lot there, right? I think we'll go alone. Yeah. Like, you know, I think, yeah, I think we'll, uh, it's like a battle of the walking dead, these two coaches. And he's like, I think I'll just, I'll go by myself. I think I'll take, uh, I'll be, I'll be a play away from Trace McSorley being my quarterback. And that, and that's would happen and they still won the game. So I think it'll be interesting to see if Cliff survives the week. You know, Steve Kime left with health, uh, scare, whatever it is. And, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:21 I hope we're thinking about Steve. Yeah, because we love Steve and everything. I, I don't know what's going to happen to Cliff. Uh, the Colts, man, that was insane. Okay, Colts plus four was where the picks I gave out and I called it free money in the first quarter. Because I really did think it was like, even though the game played out differently than I thought I thought this was going to be a game where the Colts would cover it just it made a lot of sense right what a strange fucking game well Jonathan Taylor exits the blue tent like immediately on the first drive so you know I thought they'd have Jonathan Taylor the whole the whole day they scored in a lot of
Starting point is 00:34:57 different ways they jump up 30 to nothing it ends up being the biggest comeback in football history and of course right after the game the graphics start flying because people are simple and they're like oh 28 to 3 now this and the whole thing i'm sorry i don't blame matt ryan for the super ball i never did hey let's let's let's revisit that real quick it's 21 3 at the half with with eight minutes to go in the third quarter uh matt ryan leads leads an 85 yard touchdown drive they go up 283 at that point we're like fuck yeah the next possession mom's crying yeah dad's i don't know what dad's doing i'm i'm on the sideline talking to ninko like, why'd you bring me here?
Starting point is 00:35:38 Yeah. And at that point at 28 to 3, the very next possession, Devante Freeman totally blows a protection. High Tower unblocked. Matt's trying to throw the ball. He's in motion, throwing the ball and gets hit. The balls out. Fumbles. So, you know, that's not really on Matt. And then at the end of the game, all they need with five minutes to go is to drive into field goal range. They do that. They're 23-yard line. Matt takes a sack, which is a Cardinal sin. That's his biggest mistake. But they're at the 35-yard line.
Starting point is 00:36:08 All they have to do is kick, and I probably don't win any Super Bowls. I'm sitting here miserable. I probably don't have a podcast. I'm probably like a fucking alpaca farmer. You're never going to hear from me again. But Jake Matthews holds me. Matt Ryan throws a nine-yard completion. They're in field-go range.
Starting point is 00:36:25 What an effort on the rush. But Kyle, all they have to do. We just stop and give some, you know. Yeah, well, they had me out there playing left-handed at right end so that they could drive my free agency price down. So the bottom line is they run the ball twice. They're Super Bowl champs. And none of this stuff is being talked about.
Starting point is 00:36:43 He played really well in that game. And then, you know, Matt Ryan now on Saturday, he's not supposed to be MVP, Matt Ryan. He's supposed to just manage the game. And in the second half, you know, if you're gonna point the finger at Matt Ryan, point the finger at Jeff Saturday, who was a high school coach a little while back, okay?
Starting point is 00:37:00 Who's calling the screens on third and medium? That's high school shit right there. Who's calling the, draws on third down. Matt Ryan had one drive. Who fumbled the football? And Shannon Sullivan picked it up. It should have been a touchdown, but Matt Ryan drove them in range of a game-winning
Starting point is 00:37:20 field goal. And, you know, they don't decide to kick. Okay. They get a first down on the sneak, but they don't call it a first down. I just don't put this on Matt Ryan, bro. It's not like Matt through picture. It's low-hanging fruit. It's low-hanging fruit, man.
Starting point is 00:37:34 and, you know, people are like, whoa, it's going to follow them forever. I'm like, whatever, no, it's not. Sure. You want to, in 15 years, you want to bring up a game that Jeff Saturday blew. When you talk about Matt Ryan's- Just make sure to mention both names. Yeah, just, so anyways, I'm not going to blame Matt Ryan for that loss. I'm going to get off my soapbox right now.
Starting point is 00:37:55 If you simpletons want to, want to boil it down to a Sports Center Instagram fucking be our fucking guests. Be our guests. So yeah, the Colts, the Colts are eliminated, man. Yeah, speaking of the playoffs, you guys see Lions and Jaguars are now both like almost 50% chance to make the playoffs. Two of my favorite coaches right there. Yeah, so for the Jaguars, which has been on a great run. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:21 They just need to try to topple the Titans. So the Titans are 7 and 7. Jaguars are 6 and 8. Look who plays last week of the season. Jaguars Titans. That could be an epic matchup for a playoff spot for the AFC South. And I like the Jags there where they are right now. I mean, it's easy to say, but the Titans are just kind of falling apart a little bit.
Starting point is 00:38:42 I don't want to look past the Jaguars game at the Jets this week. Which people were mocking Amazon for having that as their Thursday night game late in the season. Lo and behold, it's got massive playoff implications. Yeah. And then if you look at the Lions, their last three games at Carolina, home Chicago, at Green Bay. They're going to go to the playoffs. Detroit plays Green Bay. Yes, Detroit plays Green Bay tough as fuck.
Starting point is 00:39:05 They're going to the playoffs. I mean, so I'm excited about that for Dan Campbell and for the Lions and the whole thing. We'll talk about that game in a second. And then I know you want to talk about the end of the Patriots game. They have kind of like the opposite schedule if you look at it. They have Cincinnati, Miami, at Buffalo. They probably needs a win at least two of them, maybe three of them. So their chances are looking pretty dumb.
Starting point is 00:39:29 And yeah, these are really tough games to win. they've been playing. And I want to say this, you know, the Pats were down 17 to 3 at the half. You know, they score a couple times in a row. They're up 2417. Under two minutes, no timeouts for Derek Carr. And Derek Carr seems to do this stuff a lot, man. You know, fourth and 10, he hits Hollins and they end up on the 30-yard line, a couple of plays later with 37 seconds ago. So you know they got to take a shot, right? They can't run their offense. They take a shot to Keel and is he in or is he out? He was out.
Starting point is 00:40:07 He was out from what I could tell, but there's only one angle. That's the thing, dude. He's out. So what's going on with the cameras, man? I don't know if it has anything to do with the cameras. Reed and I were talking about this earlier. I'm thinking Roger Goodell maybe picked up the red phone
Starting point is 00:40:21 attached to the wall and said, that's a goddamn touch stuff. So they're not showing us the other angles. That's my Miller-Light mentioned fly on the wall. I would have loved to have been in the room with Roger Goodell, when he made the phone call and said the touchdown stands. I'm starting to wonder if people often think about it like markets or you want Bill Belichick in or you want this,
Starting point is 00:40:41 no, you want the best teams in the playoffs. You know, like if anybody thinks there were questionable calls in the CINCY game, if people think there were questionable calls in the Washington game, you know, maybe it's like, hey, it's a little bit of the markets, it's a little bit of like, hey, the best, we want the best teams
Starting point is 00:40:56 and we don't think Mac Jones led Patriots. Which gets credence to the people who are like, the refs are, blowing this game, the refs are in on this. I'm like, it gets some credence to the conspiracy theories that all these fucking fans. Yeah. Each fan base has one and they're all real. Yeah, you're giving the chemtrails
Starting point is 00:41:12 people ammunition, man. The earth is flat. So, so here's my thing. If you look at that play, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a Getty Images photographer right there, three, four feet away from where he caught that football.
Starting point is 00:41:28 If that person goes missing, yeah. Then something's going on here. Stay woke. He needs to NFT that picture that he took. Bro, that picture somewhere, because that motherfucker had the camera pointed right at. Somewhere with a Getty Sports overlay.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Go find that picture. Getty images. There's no way somebody didn't get a picture of him trying to toe tap. So Keel and Cole's got two-tone cleats. He's got white and black cleats. The part that we don't see is the bottom. The sole of his shoe has white on it, and it blends in perfectly with that edge line.
Starting point is 00:42:00 And as you know, when you micro-zoom, them in on some of these blades of grass, a couple of them are poking out. His shoes completely on the line. That's out of bounds. Okay. So now look as the play goes on right there. Yes. That's my, that's my cameraman or woman. Camera person. That's my camera person. And I want to know who that is. Ken Griffey Jr. I want to know. And then the last play, has there ever been a more unlikely final play in a football game because, you know, in recent memory, okay, they got a picture.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Zoom in. Yeah. He's in. No, no, no, no, no. It's back to what Kyle was saying. The sole of that shoe is white. You can't see. So it blends in with the line.
Starting point is 00:42:44 So it's like the very bottom of his... There's no green between the sole of his shoe and the line. Kyle, I see, I see... No, you don't. Because the black blends in with the black. So you see the black on the toe? he's out and then below the black because he has he has paint on the white soles of the very very bottom of his shoe like where the where the soul meets the leather is white and so that blends in with
Starting point is 00:43:08 the out of pounds is really fucking sketch is the dress green or blue yeah well the problem is it called it you know complete on the field so it's hard to overturn that uh you're right you know either way the last play is inexcusable and and and i I've never, you know, we had the Miami miracle happen to the Patriots, you know, five years ago or whatever it was. We've seen, you know, Hail Marys. We've seen all types of shit. But I have never seen anything like this in my life. And for it to happen to the New England Patriots, man, this is the most unpatriotic play of all times.
Starting point is 00:43:46 I was going to say that. Is it? Yes. It's the most unpatriotic play of all time. Chandler Jones, ironically, misses the tackle to set up his revenge because the play doesn't even happen if Chandler Jones makes the tackle at the beginning of this run. And then I don't know if I'm blaming Stevenson because Stevenson pitches it to Meyer. And then Meyer, I don't know if it feels reactionary to him because he knows the score, right? But he saw Mac Jones was open. He said I saw
Starting point is 00:44:12 Mac Jones. He's come back to the football, you know? I think it's so ludicrous that Mac Jones is playing safety, essentially, and they throw him the football. What's Mac Jones going to do with that ball? That's what I'm saying, bro. So, you know, that wasn't even caught. They just said... No, it wasn't called. It was just... And Jacoby Myers said, to his credit, and that's going to be... I loved this. One of the hardest things that anybody's ever had to say after a football game is like, no, I was trying to be a hero.
Starting point is 00:44:38 He said, I was doing too much. And here's the thing. It costs them the playoffs. I mean, it legitimately costs them the playoffs. Not that they might make it because you look at the next three games here, but that has to be just the toughest pill to swallow. And then after the game, you know, they're asking Bill about it. And they're trying to press him. did they say something to the guys in the huddle about hey we're not trying to score here you know just go down and bill's like we practice situational football every week it should go unsaid that you're not trying to go as scott van pelt would say pitchy pitchy woo-woo um it just it was it was
Starting point is 00:45:14 awful and here's what i really want to know and last night i'm watching i got sports center on and i'm i'm rewinding and going back and forth and back and forth i'm going to enhance and i'm trying to see. Maddie P., if you watch him on the sideline, I'm watching people's reactions. And as the pitch happens and Jacoby Myers running with the ball before he throws it backwards, Maddie P claps like four times. Is he clapping good job? Or is he like stop? Or is he like stop? Get down. Right? You know, because I can't tell. And I know that Jacobi Myers ate this thing, but like the clap there kind of makes me wonder a little bit what was going on. Was Matt happy about the pitch? Was there something?
Starting point is 00:45:54 that I didn't know about. Was it was this, was it just the wrong? Here's one thing Mac Jones didn't know about. Chandler Jones was going to stiff arm him into the fucking subterranean layers. Oh my God. Oh my God, dude. And to be a former patriot that they traded away. And shout out to Chandler Jones too, because a lot of people were spending a lot of air time talking about his lack of production early on in the season.
Starting point is 00:46:20 He's got four sacks in the last three games. Obviously, he was in the right place of the right time. Right place. But he did happen to anybody. He did bait that, though. But what a freak. He gets the ball, has the wherewithal of the stiff arm, and stay on his feet. He nearly got tackled. Stay on his feet.
Starting point is 00:46:34 And then the cavalry arrives. What a celebration at, what was it, Allegiance Stadium? Yeah, oh, my God. What a fucking celebration. And now bummer to Belichick because he's 0 against McDanielson. Oh, yeah. And that hurts. Everybody kept saying Belichick disciple, he's fucked.
Starting point is 00:46:50 I'm like, hold on a second, buddy. Well, this isn't every, the problem with, like, basing. these old adages about like, hey, Bill doesn't do this or Bill doesn't do that or the Patriots don't do that, is like, you're basing that sample size on a totally different team. Yes. With one common denominator, and that's Tom Brady, that guy's not there anymore, and this is not the same team. So as great a coaches, Bill Belichick is, they're going to lose games that break trends for them. And I just, it's tough for them. That's a dagger.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Is that the best sports blooper you can remember? Oh my God. I used to get those VHS of sports bloopers, and that would be the number one that I could think of. That would be number one. And they'd be playing, and they'd be playing. Circus noises, dude.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Circus noise. A beat shout out to Waller. He's back. In there, balling. Devante, you know, not a ridiculous game, but nice to have him back out there. Carter Adams is one of the most pretty connections. It's up there with, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:51 bro to chase and all them for me. Obviously not an elite team, but an elite combination there. Yeah, how about a... And Remodre Stevenson. How about... What does you remind you of? Remondry Stevenson? I'm not really sure, but I really like him.
Starting point is 00:48:02 He's fucking fun to watch. Or, you know, you said car to Adams. What about Mahomes to Jody Fortson? MVS. And like seven other guys that you didn't hear about. Derek McKinnon. Yeah. Okay, so we start with that game.
Starting point is 00:48:19 What happened? What happened with Kansas? I'll say this first. I went back to look. The thing that's concerning about the chiefs to me, Kyle, is I feel like they might have a fatal flaw. And there's no doubt in my mind that Patrick Mahomes should be talked about
Starting point is 00:48:35 in the MVP conversation. I mean, he completed 20 straight balls. You know, his only mishap really was an OT sack that took him out of field goal range. And, you know, like, he was playing hero ball in the most responsible way. for much of this game. I remember in the end zone,
Starting point is 00:48:52 he had to rifle a ball like 50 yards to Justin Watson. It just drops the ball. And I'm just like, holy shit, this guy's in hell. And, you know, I'm thinking to myself, like, can this team actually make a run and win a Super Bowl?
Starting point is 00:49:05 Chris Jones, to be fair, had maybe what I had this week. And, you know, kudos to him for even taking the field, but he wasn't a big factor. 2020, I looked at these teams that have won the Super Bowl, and I looked at their worst losses
Starting point is 00:49:19 over the last 10 years like Super Bowl champions and their worst losses in the month of like December, two bad teams or performances that looked awful against bad teams. I'm not talking about like seven to nine. I'm talking about like two and whatever, four and whatever. 2020 bucks were down 17 nothing to the Falcons who were four in 10 and they end up winning 31, 27. But that was in division. So indivision games are tougher. 2018 Pats lost the dolphins 3433, but they always struggled down in Miami in division. 2016 Pats. I was there. Survived.
Starting point is 00:49:49 22, 17 against the Jets. Jets were 3 and 8, but in division, 2015 Broncos lost the 7 to 9 Raiders, 15 to 12, but in division, and that was Brock Osweiler, a quarterback that game. 2014, Pats beat the 4 and 12 Jets, 17, 16, is their pattern here. They're all in division. In 2012, the Giants, who at that point were only 7 and 7,
Starting point is 00:50:15 loss to the 5 and 11 Redskins, 2310, but that was in division. So this is a really, it's an outlier of a loss if you're going to tell me that they're going to win the Super Bowl. It's just a, it's a bad sign for them. You know, like Houston, it was a 14-point line here. We talked about the concerns last week on the show,
Starting point is 00:50:40 and we kind of hinted at it, or at least I did, the protection issues on the edges. And I said, look, a healthy dose of Pacheco will keep the off schedule away. If you can hand the ball off on first down, put Mahomes in a position to be second and six, second and five, that opens up your offense for a more safer, conservative approach where you can get down the field in chunks. Mahomes is on the run. Started off in the first quarter yesterday. He missed MVS wide for a first down.
Starting point is 00:51:08 You know, the big thing about the chiefs is their momentum-based offense. When they score, they score in bunches. You have an opportunity to really slow. slam the door in the first quarter. You know, you jump out seven and nothing as the chiefs, the other team on the other sidelines thinking, fuck, we're already down one possession. It's going to be three possessions by the end of this quarter. So you sail one to MvS. He was on the run a lot. I thought Davis Mills played well early on. Quatoriano is probably my favorite name to say for the Houston Texans. I believe it's a
Starting point is 00:51:37 tight end, quatoriano, white guy, big guy, definitely not a receiver. Yeah, key feeding Pacheco. and then Mahomes, you see the miss to MVS and then you see the touchdown, great catch on the right side of the end zone. Yeah, it was a bullet. To MVS. What a dime, what a catch. And then third time of the season,
Starting point is 00:51:55 we saw Juju Fumble in a big situation. He lost this one. They had two turnovers in this game. And then the end of the game, the big play was the fumble and then Willie Gay jumping in there to get the football out from between the legs of the running back.
Starting point is 00:52:08 And Trent Green on the call was like, Gay took it from between his legs. He literally just pulled the ball between his legs. I was like, say he just pulled it out like a shit. He pulled a baby out from. It did. It just plopped out. And it's awesome. The other thing, Harrison Butker, we talk about another concern. The kicking game. They miss an extra point. They miss field goals. Harrison Bucker, man, you're a great kicker. We've seen it time and time again. Just figure, you know, figure it out. Boy, they need you. And Carl Chaffers, man, he's back again. You know, this is the guy that Travis Kelsey told him he needed to work at Footlock. He's the guy that penalized Chris Jones.
Starting point is 00:52:44 He reminds me of like, I used to get a bunch of parking tickets because I didn't have a, you know, parking pass for a while here by my residence or by my workplace. And every time I'd walk outside, I'd be like, this motherfucker again, the guy that gives me parking tickets, that guy. And the little tuck-tuck, Indian truck. Yeah, well, whatever it is. What is that?
Starting point is 00:53:02 You know the trucks they drive in India where it's like a little like golf car? Yeah, they have a little golf car. Yeah, they have a little golf car like, yeah, like a harbinger of death, but in a tiny little, uh, tiny little, mall cop car. I forgot to shout this out, the Frank Clark strip sack that set up the Willie Gay. That's the one. The Frank Clark Strip Sack. He didn't go for the ball. He went, he didn't go for the sack. He went for the ball, which all great rushers know to do. And I want you to talk about this. When Khalil came to the Bears, he talked about, I'm not going for the quarterback. I'm going for
Starting point is 00:53:29 the football. I watched Julius Peppers do the same thing early in my career. He was attacking the arm. Talk about that. Well, I mean, if what you need is coverage, you know, you need people to a beat. You need quarterbacks to take a beat. Like there's two types of strip sacks. Obviously there's one where guys about to throw the ball and he's, you know, he's separated the ball from his body and he's about to launch it. And that's, you know, that's just timing and the whole thing and it's winning your rush. But, you know, if you are closing on a quarterback and he's patting the ball, that's because he's going through his progressions and things aren't there. And then you, those are the easy ones, right? But you're thinking go for the ball. Don't go for the tackle. Absolutely. It's not even a thought.
Starting point is 00:54:08 You know, you drill it so much. Got it. And you may the calculation based upon how much time you think you have and you know is the ball off his body based upon how much you abandoned just making the tackle and going for the ball but in that situation for frank for frank clark you know i think davis mills is scrambling he's about he's actually over the line and at that point frank's just thinking you know like let me get this ball off him and i thought it was a really great play um no damien pierce so you're thinking of yourself like how do how are the fucking texin's going to move the ball
Starting point is 00:54:41 Jeff Driscoll and Davis Mills You're gonna tell me these guys are gonna beat Patrick Mahomes And their defense played hard too He did for the second week in a row But you watch this game and you're like This is what makes the NFL so crazy From a business standpoint The fucking geniuses in the NBA
Starting point is 00:54:58 They'd be losing this game Like Houston would be like we're losing this game You know like you stand to have the number one draft pick Like why why even they probably have it locked up anyways Right pretty much locked up So you could try to win But there's just a sense that like, hey, you're not supposed to win this game. The nerve of these guys, that's the way the Chiefs probably felt most of this game.
Starting point is 00:55:19 And the frustration with like, just go away. Like the Travis Kelsey penalty, like they were just frustrated. But in the end, the Chiefs have won the West seven straight times. The Pats won the East 11 straight times over Tom Brady's tenure. But think about the difference here. We used to complain of Tom Brady doesn't. and play anybody in the AFC East. Patrick Mahomes has done this
Starting point is 00:55:45 against guys like Herbert, Rivers, Carr, and 36 Denver Broncos. You know, like, that's hard. And the Broncos thing, you never know who's going to be playing quarterback. You don't know how to prepare. You know, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:59 So I think this is even more impressive in a lot of ways. You know, it's not 11 straight, but seven straight, especially Patrick Mahomes coming to the league, you know, in the prime of Tom Brady and with Peyton Manning still in the league and all that stuff and all these great quarterbacks. Patrick Mahomes has been incredible in seven straight for the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:56:24 They're in the playoffs. They're going to host a home football game at least one. And that to me is what gives them a chance is that if they can play games at Arrowhead, they can beat anybody. I don't think they can go on the road and beat anybody, not with the lack of weapons that they have. And also with how hot these guys are going to be playing. are playing now.
Starting point is 00:56:42 You look at the way the Bengals finished that game yesterday. No question. It's just unbelievable. The last three games for them are critical. They want to host, or sorry, they want that first round by. Who they got? Well, they have Seattle and Denver at home and then at Las Vegas. I'm putting Denver and Vegas as wins, and Seattle's going to be tough, but they're at home.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Oh, I think they'll get Seattle. Seattle's the only one that makes me balk. I think Seattle's, I think, where is the Vegas game at Las Vegas? I think that's the one that worries me. You know, Vegas, is Vegas out? Vegas is out, right? They are not totally out. If they win their last three games,
Starting point is 00:57:19 there is an outside chance of some of the chances. They're on the edge of the hunt. Would Troy Aitman call loitering on, I think that's the best. That is, I don't know if he caught shit about that online because loitering's a crime and like, some people actually get charged with loitering. Okay, but we can laugh about Troy Aikman calling it loiter.
Starting point is 00:57:39 That's great. I mean, because everybody's like, people are begging for a new word, other term other than in the hunt. He gave you one. I love it. Loiter. He's hanging outside of 7-Eleven. You're going to buy something?
Starting point is 00:57:50 Yeah. You're going to buy a churro? I wouldn't describe the Lions as loitering, though. They're surging. Lions are going in. They're getting a Gatorade and getting on the road, man. Speaking of Lions, Detroit and New York, and this was so funny to me, it was like, it was like Argentina.
Starting point is 00:58:08 I felt like I was on an eight ball of cocaine. And then I was just like, Maradona. Oh, we get to watch the Jared Gough and Zach Wilson from one thing to the next. You could feel this. That was crazy how the World Cup game like ended exactly almost at 1 o'clock. And they were contractually obligated to switch to NFL. So I'm in the middle of like watching the scene of people crying and I'm loving it. And then it's like, and now here's the NFL kickoff.
Starting point is 00:58:34 What if there was more extra time? You know, like more stoppage time. Dad's show. Dad's show got. Nixed in the morning. Oh yeah, I was like, how was the show? Dad, he was like, we didn't have a show. Soccer got us.
Starting point is 00:58:46 I was like, they showed, they showed Howie and everybody watching the game, just sitting there like all suited, you know, dressed up and ready to go, just watching the soccer game. He was happy or upset? He was just like, man, it was a great game. He wasn't happy or upset. He was just out of his routine. So when I called him, he was like, I don't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:59:03 We didn't do a show. I was like, it's called free money, dad. He was like, I guess you're right. Yeah. Just take it, man. Yeah. Just take it. But the Lions had a chance to make this really hard on the Jets.
Starting point is 00:59:13 You know, the opening drive was great, and they get stuffed at the one. Of course, they get seven out of that because of a punt return for a touchdown. Which was the easiest punt return touchdown ever. Ever. It was way too easy. They had a 14-play drive that ended in a field goal
Starting point is 00:59:29 because the two penalties in the low red. They also golf under through James and Williams. It would have been the prettiest ball of day. Would have been a touchdown. And it's also good to see James and Williams get loose. on a busted coverage. The first game, you're like, oh, that's,
Starting point is 00:59:42 that's heartwarming, you know, but then to see him... Just run by people. Yeah, I mean, like, this is, this is great. Because the first one's kind of like,
Starting point is 00:59:50 welcome, yes. I'm happy for you. Yeah, and I love the lions. Yeah. And this one was like, holy fuck the lions.
Starting point is 00:59:55 You're going to help the lions. And... Two are through that four. They had an... Okay, Kyle. Gratuitous. Gratuitous. Gratuitous.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Yeah, that was... So, so, so they scored three points off the big Wilson pick in the third quarter or the bad pick.
Starting point is 01:00:09 You know, they missed a lot of opportunities that they could. And Jared golf's not good in the cold, okay? Like, honestly, I think Jared Goff's a, Jared Goff and Tua are good comps, okay? And that's not disrespect to Tua. We love both those offenses. Because Jared Gough, he had some really great years. He was prolific.
Starting point is 01:00:27 And he was prolific. They played him in a Super Bowl. But, you know, like, Jerogoff was not his best. And, you know, third and five late in the game, nearly throws a pick and they have to settle for a long field goal, which they missed was seven minutes ago. Detroit had a lot of chances to make this,
Starting point is 01:00:46 you know, even harder on Zach Wilson, the Jets, but they didn't. So I think the, everybody on the Jets side is looking at Zach Wilson and saying, like, how do I evaluate this game from him? And I want to give him his respect because of what he said after the game. You know, he put it on himself. He said, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:08 you know, they asked, do you deserve another chance to start? He says, it's not up to me. You know, he almost smiled like, come on, guys. You know, I'm a change, man. Now, like, I'm not going to say anything stupid. Yeah, I've learned my- I learned a little bit. I've learned my lesson.
Starting point is 01:01:20 And you know what? You know, I was pissed at Jared Gough for the guys on that team because I was a D-Lyman. I played on teams where, you know, the offense let us down. And that's why I was so pissed. That's why my reaction was visceral. Like, I've been in that situation, but worse. And, you know, no quarterback I had ever,
Starting point is 01:01:36 ever said the type of thing he said after the game, They had the attitude that he had. But it's not like he did something unforgivable. It's not like he committed a crime. It's not like he assaulted a teammate or something. He said the wrong thing and he needs to grow up. It's funny because at times assaulting a teammate would result in less fan. Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Like I've done it. Fans like me. Yeah. Got along one of my favorite. I hit my teammate with a helmet in practice. Yes. Exactly. So, I mean, like the hardest part about football is at the performance.
Starting point is 01:02:08 professional level is being misunderstood because fans don't know exactly what's going on and lying sometimes. And having to say, you know, this was all me. When it wasn't all him, you know, he, he was up and down. I think this, this, this start for him kind of sums him up. He makes some wow throws that are off schedule. And you can see the arm talent. You can see his talent. But then he's nonchalant in his technique for some throws. And he looks like he's. just out there playing catch. At times, the explosives that we saw the receptions, they weren't great balls. They were just kind of blown coverage. People were in zones. He gave God's opportunities to go get the football. Without a doubt.
Starting point is 01:02:50 No question. But what I'm saying is, the elite of the elite put the ball on the hands. It's not like a back shoulder ball when a guy's wide open. No question. But I also would say this, to be fair to him, because I'm a big Mike White fan.
Starting point is 01:03:02 It's not like the offense has been on fire since Mike White joined. They've racked a bunch of yards, especially in what was the Vikings game was it the Vikings game Vikings game White through for 3609 But like you know a bunch of yardage But you know Zach Wilson statistically was
Starting point is 01:03:18 When you look at you know Completion percentage wasn't great But it's not like they scored a bunch less points They were in position to win this game You can't take a sack in two minute You can't take a sack what in the two minute drill that Yeah to Kaminsky You cannot take a sack if you're Zach Wilson
Starting point is 01:03:34 You either throw the ball away No question you get out of bounds. No question. And I hope this doesn't come across like I'm caping for Zach Wilson. But what I am saying is, I'm not going to bury the kid for this law. Not at all, but it's like he learned from the last time he was at the podium, he will learn from this two minute. Yep, yep, yeah. And the hard part is, is a high draft pick. And you know this. Like, there's a lot of haters in an NFL locker room. Like they don't like your, you know, like your money. Charles Tillman told me to give my money back. Yeah, a lot of guys like, yeah. Got a lot of guys
Starting point is 01:04:02 like Bougar McFarlane that think like I know exactly who this guy is when he walks in the building because he looks like, you know, a rich kid with an, with a, with a LLB in backpack. You know, like, um, that's like public perception of Cutler when I got to the locker room. I was like, everybody has bad things to say, but he treats me well. And I like him. Like there's, and I understand like you weren't in the locker room, you know, so I'm going to lump you in with, you're aware of the fringe of Zach Wilson or Jay Cutler, like, we're not in the meeting rooms with him. All I'm saying is like generally when there's a high draft pick and the draft pick gets hurt and there's a backup
Starting point is 01:04:37 or somebody like Mike White doesn't have to do much to win your adoration or your respect or your love. You're absolutely right. And he has done a lot in a way of toughness and leadership and all that stuff. You see him buckling helmets for some of the guys yesterday on the sideline? I love that.
Starting point is 01:04:52 But all I'm saying is that, you know, Zach Wilson has a steep hill to climb. And, you know, I don't know that yesterday was a big step forward. But in his defense, Mims was out with a concussion. Corey Davis didn't play. He threw a great 50-50 ball to Gare Wilson
Starting point is 01:05:10 to put them up 17, 13 on that drive. You know, he had the cross field to Yuzama, third and 19 to Wilson on the last drive. You know, you can't take exact third and 19 to Wilson. Fourth and 18 to Elijah Moore was a really great play. That was wild. And he set up the field goal to Legatron. I mean, here's the thing about that fourth and 18
Starting point is 01:05:31 to Elijah Moore. He catches the ball in the 37. He seems to try to go out of bounds. He's tackled up to 41. A lot of lines on the field during the broadcast. Yeah, you're right. Field goal target line. Phil Gold, no target line.
Starting point is 01:05:46 First down, last. I was like, hold on. Too many lines. Hold on. Too many lines. It's like a scarf. They were playing battleship. But yeah, no, like, and then Greg Zerline missed the kick.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Of course, like I'm sitting there in my layer, watching the game, hopped up on Advil. And I have the under. So at this point, like, you can't make this kick. My former teammate Greg Zerlijn missed the kick. And I said literally out loud to my, I'm sorry, Greg. Because I was like, I decided right before the kick, sorry, I got a root against you making this kick. But the problems with Zach Wilson remain.
Starting point is 01:06:18 He can't vary speeds. So every ball is just like a bullet, dude. Like, you know what I mean? There's no layering like Tua does. Like Tua can put the ball between the linebackers and the safety. Granted, it's not a laser. He's not going to overthrow anybody. he can put the ball over the linebacker
Starting point is 01:06:34 underneath the safety Zach Wilson doesn't have that ability right now more than anything it's like there was a big third down yesterday and Joe Burrow had somebody wide open and he took it off like he took juice off the ball and just touched it in there
Starting point is 01:06:49 there was the Garrett Wilson miss on third and 12 where Garrett Wilson is walking off the field and he's looking back at Zach Wilson frustrated but at the end of the game Wilson in his post game and I believe him this is not somebody being like, you better get up there and talk good about Zach Wilson, because Garrett Wilson is going to say what the fuck he needs to say.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Garrett Wilson said, that boy battled. He showed a lot of perseverance. He gave us a chance to win the game. You know, there's the Berrios miss. There's the more miss. But overall, I think he gains some respect from his teammates for the way he battled and what he said after the game. So this is not Zach Wilson winning the war.
Starting point is 01:07:25 It's certainly not even Zach Wilson winning the game. But if he wants to extend his life in the NFL, at least he did that and just gave himself a chance to fight another day. And shout out to the Lions, Dan Campbell. Not a good, not a good game from Zach Wilson. You know, he did some okay things, but he didn't embarrass himself. He didn't act like a child. It was a net positive, I think. Yeah, the bar's low bar expectation. That's like bare minimum. Okay. What's the bar from Mike White? You're right. The off the field stuff has to take care of itself. Like the way that he handles himself. Kyle hit it, I think, the best. And being a Jets fan, the biggest problem for me is like hit the wide open receiver. He missed way too many wide
Starting point is 01:08:01 open receivers. Even the completions were like, whoa, that was closed. Yeah, but but your biggest production were big chunk plays that only he was going to make. There were some lucky stuff that he did in there. Oh, the fucking the ball to Michael Carter was like, people were like, look at that throw. That was a, that was a bad decision. That was on Michael Carter. And there was a point in this game where I was like 45 minutes and I was like, oh, it just took to like, you know, midnight, like clock struck midnight. It just took 45 minutes for him turn into a pumpkin. They can't scheme up mayhem all the time for him. You know what I mean? Like fundamentally, he needs to be able to sit in the pocket and not throw up the footwork and make the make the throw
Starting point is 01:08:34 across the middle that's not a difficult throw for an NFL quarterback it's tough because you know breese hall's out you talked about the two guys that were out outside i don't know about michael floor i don't know like you know and the hard part is the other the other guys from that draft class are playing at the exact same time and Doug peterson's a wizard and lawrence is better and justin fields the jury's still out but I think he's got incredible tools and gets. He's a really good play call. It's playing to his strengths. I don't know how you play to Zach Wilson's strengths.
Starting point is 01:09:05 And I don't know if this is a project they're willing to go into the offseason and take on. But I do know that if Zach Wilson wants to extend his opportunities, this wasn't the game that negates that process. It was fine. Not the end for Zach Wilson, but it may not be time yet. Okay. Bengals. The Bengals. win, man. I, um, I had a, uh, I had a scooter on this game. Like, you know, early, it means I had a
Starting point is 01:09:34 oh, oh, oh, a scooter like like you, you, you, physically speaking. Yeah, you, you, you fill in the blank. Whatever you, I don't know what scooters are going for these days, but 2500. I had, I was buying a family of scooters. So, so, so, so midweek, I hear there's going to be some people out for the bucks. It turned out there were a lot of people out for the, the, the Bengals as well. So I move and you know like this is the point on Sunday where I could no longer milk being sick in my home and enjoy the perks of being sick and the lack of responsibilities because my kids are all downstairs. Meg's downstairs. I came downstairs for a little bit to 4 p.m. start. I go Meg.
Starting point is 01:10:13 I'm up a bunch this week and I've got the exact same amount of money on the Bengals here. And she's like, okay, well, I'm rooting for the Bengals. I go back upstairs and your life is so much different than mine. Yeah. And I go upstairs and I am jumping around like a fucking like a child up there and my kids are yelling go bangles. I can hear them through the through the floor. And at that moment I'm like, well, I can't act sick anymore because because I'm obviously like expending
Starting point is 01:10:41 a lot of energy up here. All this talk about Burrow being the next Brady and I perpetuated a lot of that and there's a lot of people talking about it now. I had read pulled some clips like I was talking about September of 2020. or whatever it was. Okay. And the reason I think Burrow reminds me of Brady is his mobility in the pocket, you know, the way he is at the sticks, like on these big conversion throws, his leadership. Burrow being the next Brady, going to play Brady. You could tell this week that like Burrow was trying to shy away from it and Brady was wanted to win this game, right, for a lot of the same,
Starting point is 01:11:18 for a lot of the reasons we're talking about. And I thought in the first half, how ironic is it that Brady is beating the next Brady. And I guess if anybody knows how to hold down Tom Brady, it's the 2002 bucks. So it makes perfect sense. You know, but instead, Burrow does what nobody's done before. And I think that was coming back from 17 down against Tom Brady.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Was that the stat? Yeah, there's always a stat. Yeah, there's always a stat. He's never, you've never, always. Yep. And you sound like Romo. And then it just spoke to the importance of this game. to the bucks that they changed their entire offensive identity in that first half,
Starting point is 01:12:01 their entire game plan, they go to play action, they got motion, you heard Romo talking about all that, as this giant tactical advantage that they almost seem to save up for their biggest game, that they needed to have this one. And it's a lot like if I fought my younger self, right, because you bro, the first five minutes, I might have some cagey shit up my sleeve, but eventually that 275 pound gorilla is going to eat me. Yeah, just high in testosterone. Yeah, and that's what happened, right? Like that shit in the first half was great,
Starting point is 01:12:32 but at halftime, Lou, the DC, Anirumo for the Bengals who's down, Trey Hendrickson, he's down. You know, at this point, our guy, Sam Hubbard, who has a calf, he needs to be careful with that because calves last a long time. I always told the story about Sammy Brown, one of the best rushes I've ever seen that never really saw the field in the NFL used to beat people
Starting point is 01:12:55 of death in in practice uh he had a calf for like three years and we were like he's just trying to get out practice and then late in my career I had a calf and it lasted a year um like I felt it for like a year and a half like you need to be careful with the calf thing Sam hubbard um but they were down all these rushers they couldn't get home it was like it was like taking you know candy from a baby for the bucks offense in the first half mike evans there was a point where they were like Mike there was a graphic Mike Evans has 83 yards and the Bengals have 23. It was just so, it was such tough sledding for them. But in the second half, they made the adjustments.
Starting point is 01:13:32 The third quarter had to be like, it was like the seventh circle of hell for Tom Brady. It reminds me of when Tom Brady lost to the Bears on Thursday night a couple years ago. And the timeouts were fucked up and people were making mistakes. And Jensen was fucking up. And Brady was like throwing tablets at people, like ninja stars.
Starting point is 01:13:52 And this third quarter was a lot like that. Here, I'm just going to run you down to East Possession. Okay? They come out, you get a three and out, and then you get the look they want on, I guess, on the punt team, and they're going to run a fake. A lot of times, like, these are automatics in the NFL. Like, if we get this look, we're running it.
Starting point is 01:14:11 At least on where people line up. Giovanni Bernard did not see that. He fumbles the ball. That sets up a field goal. So you're like, okay, 17, 6, were surviving. And I thought the drive before the half was really big for the Bungles, rather, because it showed that they could move the ball quickly,
Starting point is 01:14:29 and it kind of probably stuck in the back of the minds of the bucks, and they had to stay aggressive and do things like that. But then the second possession, you know, you get the Trey Flowers pick, which sets up the whole, you know, Miss P.I. on Jemar Chase, but then the very next play, you get the controversial hold, which at that point my heart fucking physically stopped. you know, the flu didn't kill me. It was almost Joe Burrow running to the 50-yard line.
Starting point is 01:14:53 I thought he was doing like a T-O running to the logo to fucking, yeah. It was like, what are you doing, Joe? That flag changed my entire weekend, set up the Higgins touchdown. The next possession, you heat Brady up for a sack fumble. You know, you got Wilson linebacker jabbing in the A and wrapping, sets up a Boyd, third and goal, touchdown, 20 to 17. And then Fournette just, I thought, drop up. the ball, but Brady squeezed it too hard, and it squirted right into Leonard's hands.
Starting point is 01:15:26 The old squeeze and squirt. The squeeze and squirt. So that was on Brady, too. And then you really get the Burrow Magic. You get the third and eight, the third and nine, the chase touchdown. And then the first possession of the fourth, fuck it, we'll go into the fourth quarter. Osai, who is the Texas rush, the young Texas rusher, who they absolutely needed to play big, came up with maybe the biggest, well, not the biggest play of the game, but the biggest rush of the game for them. He loops on a TE and push pulls the guard and sets up that big pop fly. It didn't set up a score, but they needed him. And that was a really good sign from them because that team looks a lot different without Trey Hendrickson. That team looks a lot different without Sam Hubbard. Those pockets get
Starting point is 01:16:06 dented so much with those ends. Yes. And so, you know, I just, this was a really gutsy win from the Bengals. It wasn't perfect from Joe Burrow, but he did a lot of really heroic things. things late in this game and the defense allowed him to do that. So Lou Anarumo is one of the most underrated coaches in the NFL and that's one of the most underrated defense in the NFL. They missed Vaughn Bell. They missed some people but they got it done on the road against the team that's back was like against the wall, wounded animal, the whole thing. And they gave him their best shot. They had that game plan saved up and they did it for nothing because they blew the third quarter. And now you let the Bengals fly out of Tampa Bay with all that momentum feeling so good about themselves.
Starting point is 01:16:53 That second half was so dominant. The same lack of confidence you have in the first half when you're down bunches of points, you leave there with the opposite, like a huge infusion of confidence. Like no matter what anybody throws at us, I don't care if it's the goat, we're going to go out there and win. I have a lot of confidence in the Bengals. Joe Burrough said it. Joe Burrough said it at the end of the game after the game. This is not perfect, but we win games in a lot of different ways.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Like, we find ways to win, and that is the mark of a really good team. And like I said, last year they got hot, and they just stayed hot, and they're doing the same thing this year. And if you look at the AFC playoff picture, you talk about Kansas City. They have Kansas City's number. Talk about their fatal flaws. I don't think the bills are as good as they were last year. They're a little dirty secret about the bills. But Josh Allen is doing everything to win.
Starting point is 01:17:41 The Bengals might be the most dangerous team in the NFC. again. You have Burrow ahead of Allen in the MVP race? No. To me, and the MVP race is interesting because a lot of people are questioning Jalen Hertz. It depends on the way you look at the MVP
Starting point is 01:17:56 as a definition of what that means. What is value to you? What is value to you? I mean, okay, in the check column for Jalen Hertz, you have a guy who legitimately brings a lot of value because he's made great throws all year. He's a great leader, and he's a running threat in the red zone.
Starting point is 01:18:14 zone and in the field that, you know, like Patrick Mahomes is not that running threat as great as he is with the legs. Josh Allen is that running threat. And that's why I think Josh Allen, I might give the edge a little bit over Patrick Mahomes right now and possibly, you know, even maybe over Jaylon a little bit. Now, there's a couple weeks left. So, you know, like, it's become like this Heisman trophy thing. So I'm not going to name an MVP right now because anything can happen over the next three weeks. But Josh Allen, his team is not as good as the Eagles. I think and and he is he is in he's the entirety of their offense. I agree with you and I think that even though Jalen Hertz is the front runner for MVP right now pretty much across the board I think that
Starting point is 01:18:54 without Jalen Hertz Philadelphia is a better team than Kansas City Buffalo and Cincinnati without their starting quarterback those are the four guys though so those are my four guys uh my list is Patrick Jalen Joe Josh Justin Herbert. So my list is... Because I think about what happens to the team if they leave. My list has talked to me in three weeks. I'm certainly not going to...
Starting point is 01:19:19 I'm not going to throw shade at Jalen Hurd. I'm not going to even be perceived to throw shade at Jailen. Not at all. No, I know you're not going to... But I just understand how important a great team is. And no way am I saying Jalen Hertz is a system court. We're not doing a Michael Parsons thing. But what I'm saying is you look at the pieces up front for Kansas City
Starting point is 01:19:41 versus the pieces that Cincinnati has imported from elsewhere and the pieces that Jalen Hertz, they have homegrown there in Philadelphia, and the pieces are just better. Well, it just depends on what you think that the definition of the award is. I mean, you know. And that's why this is a conversation,
Starting point is 01:20:00 you know, it's a good conversation. It's a great conversation, and these are all amazing players. And Jalen Hertz, I think the interesting thing, the AFC, the Blue Bloods of the League, you know, Joe, the next generation, a great quarterback. You mentioned them all. Mahomes, Josh Allen. How lucky are we to have these guys? Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert. Who'd you just mention with those guys? Jalen Hertz. And that's a
Starting point is 01:20:22 fucking thing of beauty. It's awesome. No matter who you think the MVP is, if you're a, that shit shouldn't, the most important thing in the world to a Philadelphia Eagles fan right now should be winning that Super Bowl. The other guy, so I don't give a fuck about awards. I give a fuck about about can that guy win your Super Bowl and yes, he can. And how much money each guy is getting paid, Jalen Hertz, relative to the others, is above and beyond the most valuable player. Not forever. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:20:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Get it all the time. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Speaking of the NFCs, the NFC Beast, we'll run through these games real quick. We'll start with the one Sunday night. Well, take them away. Well, okay, those missed calls at the end of the game were bad.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Okay, with all my winnings, I decided to throw a chunky parlay on the Giants' money line. and the under. And that felt like a lock the entire game. Until the end, when Taylor Hiney was up to his bullshit again. Well,
Starting point is 01:21:16 the illegal formation with Terry McLaren, I think that's the call illegal formation, where the receiver's got to be on the ball. You see receivers oftentimes line up on the outside. They point to the receiver, or they point to the referee, the line judge. Yes.
Starting point is 01:21:29 And to say, hey, am I where I'm supposed to be? And the ref has an obligation to say, either move up or you're good. And Terry McLaurin looks over. He says, am I good?
Starting point is 01:21:38 The guy says move up. McClorum moves up. And then he asks, am I good again? There's kind of that yes. And then the ball snapped as the official was pulling the flag out of his pocket. That's one thing I have a question about the other is the Jansport that was worn in the left side of the end zone
Starting point is 01:21:54 with the no call. I don't know what they were looking at with the PI. I mean, it was a mugging. It was a mugging. And this was an old school NFC East game period, because they were letting guys play. And it was a thing of beauty, really. Like it felt great to see these two teams playing well on a big stage.
Starting point is 01:22:15 The atmosphere was great. They had that little shitbox of a state of him packed in. It was beautiful. Actually, like the uniforms look great, the whole thing. I hated them. But honestly, I thought, in the back of my head, I'm like, okay, if we're playing tinfoil hat and they're willing an outcome of the game, the referees are,
Starting point is 01:22:35 maybe they don't want to see Dan Snyder with a playoff team as he clutches this team for dear life before he has to sell it like holding on like Tom Cruise a Mission Impossible to the side of the plane yeah fuck Dan Snyder you know we've got we've got a big giants market and we don't want Dan Snyder associated with the NFL playoffs and we don't want Taylor Heinegey in the playoffs as much as we love Taylor Heineke maybe that's what Roger Goodell is thinking I don't know he doesn't know the almost
Starting point is 01:23:05 brothers. It's an anti-Virginia agenda. Yeah, exactly. That's what it is. I got to give a shout out to my guy Charles Leno Jr. left tackle for the commanders. He was going up against Kvon, Tibado, one of the better rushers, the young rushers in the game. He was locked down city in the final minutes. And I'd also like to give a shout out to Kvon, who got poked in the eyeball, I think. Boy, he ran like sideways. If I, if I was Hineke, I'd be like, okay, we got a guy with an eyeball hanging out. Let me, let me, let me just run right at that vacated giant B gap there. But the thing I wanted to mention about Charles, he's up for Walter Payton man of the year. Shout out to Charles, big shout out to Chuckie Len, Len, seventh round pick. You've come a long way.
Starting point is 01:23:47 You are a great dude. You deserve the award. Even if you don't get it, you deserve the recognition. I think he deserves the award just for living in your house. Yeah, he's a good guy. How this stinky is that? He's had to put up with me for a while. Going spalunking in a teenager's room or something. Great dad, great leader in the community, great leader on the field. So Charles Leno, you know, certainly got beat bad on that, not as a tough transition, Kyle, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 01:24:08 but back to football. There was the one rush. That's fucked up. And that was, bro, that is to make that play. Okay, here's what I think about Kavon Tibado. You know, he's got three sacks. He's going to develop as a rusher. I don't think he's there yet as a rusher.
Starting point is 01:24:23 As a football player. He's such a ball. And the irony of like Kavon Tibido, and I said this, in the draft process. People were giving him shit about his character, his effort. I was. The minute I watched him play,
Starting point is 01:24:40 what stood out to me was his effort. Yes. You know, like, he plays hard. Reckless abandon. And ironically, he's really good at all the other stuff. You thought about this, when you think about physical freaks, you think about pass rush. You know, like, he was painted as this physical freak. But when I watched him at Oregon, he was more of just an all-round athlete
Starting point is 01:24:57 that does everything well. Like he just, he looks good doing everything. And you wondered if he had the lead in his pencil that was necessary. He's worked hard at the power part of his game. The last guy from working like that, Dion Jordan. Right. He did everything well. Right.
Starting point is 01:25:15 And then it was like some other stuff that became an issue. But Kvon is, you know, the advanced version. And he's going to have to work on the power part of his game. Because he's not like a just run around guy's type of guy. And I thought that rush was great. and it really gave them the breathing room to play the game on their terms. So he was the most valuable player on the field along
Starting point is 01:25:37 with Saquan Barkley last night. One of the most impressive plays to me, not only stringing out run plays, he played toss crack well, you know, he had some TFLs, he ran Taylor Heineckee down. His hustle was great. He ran him down on that scramble in the second half.
Starting point is 01:25:53 You know, that's not some like highlight real play, but like the effort to get out there. and I don't want to give me a big fucking shout out making that tackle on the one yard line I don't know why he's in coverage but again like he's doing a bunch of different things you know it's the same thing with Aidan Hutchinson like Hutchinson's have more sacks
Starting point is 01:26:10 but Hutchinson again has impressed me by being an all-around guy like he's been an all-around football player and Kvon Tibito not only won them the game up to that point but he legitimately quite literally won them the game by stopping Taylor Heineke at the one and giving them an opportunity to make that stop in the low red. He looked like a strong safety.
Starting point is 01:26:31 Yeah, and to be the beneficiary of those two bad calls. Yeah. Like, they don't have that opportunity, if not for him making that play. So I just, I'm very happy for that guy. I don't know. STL Memorial candidate? No, because everybody saw it. And maybe that's the thing, is like, think about being Kvon, Tibodeau.
Starting point is 01:26:47 People aren't going to be talking about him like this, because they are. You and I watch a different game. No, but I think last night he was trending. I think, you know, like I wasn't online last night, but. A lot of Giants fans. Here's the deal. Kavon Tibodeo played in the Pact 12. How many people were up watching his games?
Starting point is 01:27:03 People knew his name but didn't watch him. Okay? So I don't know if this is his first big opportunity where he's like... Hello world. Hello world. Like this is Washington, New York, East Coast, you know, NFC East, playoff implication type game, the whole world watching. Like, this is who I am.
Starting point is 01:27:22 And I thought that was awesome, man. This is a big victory for him. So I want to shout him out as well. It was a fun game, man. I'm happy for Saquan as well. There were people that were writing Seekwon Barkley off. He's one of the best players I ever seen on a football field. He's so good.
Starting point is 01:27:37 Like if you were one of those people writing Sequan Barclay off, you need a dunce cap. There's some guys that are just physically different, a la Josh Allen, Justin Herbert. You know, he's one of the guys. Sequin's just different. His cuts are incredible. And then, you know, Giants, they remain alive, dude.
Starting point is 01:27:53 You're boy Brian Dable with the cigars, Kyle. Okay, bust them out, bud. Get you a big chunky one, go shake some hands, get some babies. Make sure there's no sicknesses going around, though. So, you know, there's a lot of, there was talk about Cowboys, Eagles. This is going to be the highest rated game in the history of sports. You know, like, it's just going to be insane. Like, this week is incredible.
Starting point is 01:28:16 And it's even more incredible to me because, I don't know, you could kind of see this coming, that the Jags are, a good football team masquerading as this bad football team because we're judging them off their record. They're a different football team than they were in October. They are. Trevor Lawrence has figured some shit out and the cowboys kind of walked themselves into this situation where it's easy to accuse them of looking past them. And I don't think that's necessarily what happened because they came out and jumped them. But the Jaguars were just, they wouldn't go away. And I want to say this, like the pick six ended the game, we'll get there. But Dak was sharp.
Starting point is 01:28:56 man. A week ago, he wasn't good against Houston. He looked great early. A touchdown to Hender's shot was a dime. They go up 14 to nothing. You know, they had him running the ball, design runs. Oh, he was running hard. He ran into... He's not very fast, but he's not slow. He ran into so much fucking contact on that touchdown drive down by the goal line
Starting point is 01:29:20 that I saw his mouthpiece fly out. There were like five bodies. Fight night three. Oh, it was incredible. If you search Dak Prescott's name after the game, you could see immediately who had watched that final play and who hadn't. That ball was right on the money, Noah Brown. He dropped it. That was not his fault. This game was not on DAC.
Starting point is 01:29:39 This was all about Trevor Lawrence and the Jags winning this football game, and it was all about the Dallas defense kind of being fraudulent a little bit. And I guess my biggest question is like, how the fuck did Urban Meyer hide this guy? Like this Trevor Lawrence, how did he hide Trevor Lawrence? And maybe Trevor Lawrence needed a year of this type of stuff, you know, like to make him stronger, to make him better. Maybe this, you know, a lesser people, this might have broke them. Because I know what it's like being a high draft pick in a situation where you're like, I'm supposed to succeed here. Yeah, there's something to be said for a young guy who's playing on a bad team that's even worse coached and maintains mental toughness and be able to come out this year and build on what they started.
Starting point is 01:30:28 ETIN was great yesterday and you know, you look at the game. It was 2710. And then you fast forward, 2724. Jags are driving. One thing I really like about this Jags team is the physicality up front. I've got a clip here from the Jags game. It is a Brandon Shurf pull. I want you to watch I want you to keep eyes on the right guard here. This is how you pull, ladies and gentlemen, tight to the line of scrimmage. You don't want to get caught up in the trash, so you see Sheriff rub shoulders,
Starting point is 01:30:56 but he keeps it tight. Takes one guy and a second guy down right there. Brandon Sheriff, love that guy, the Sheriff. Wow. Just plays like this. This is a smash-mouth running game. You know what I mean? Get your right guard to pull and lead block out in space,
Starting point is 01:31:11 have faith in your young running back. I mean, this is what it's about. I like Sheriff, dude. He's a great guy. to play against him. He has a hard-ass head. Great guy. But this is what the, you know, the Jags are doing stuff well. They can run this play, and then they can run
Starting point is 01:31:25 a heavy play action with Trevor Lawrence rolling out, throwing an absolute bomb to Zay Jones, you know what I mean? Stuff like that is going to pee, I hate using the word identity, but running the ball hard, having confidence in your running back, and then having a quarterback that's not only arm savvy enough to get
Starting point is 01:31:41 the ball down the field, but leg savvy enough to get outside the pocket, avoid the rush, and make the throw. Dude, I thought this was you know Trevor and he's jacked if Trevor didn't have Hansen hair people he'd be like a GI Joe we'd like Gile from street fighter he would and that's the thing like hair just it really does define what we think about people well yeah like you you you look handsome as fuck with no hair but saying hair's big hair is big well Trevor Lawrence hair is big he's a tough dude man he really is and he's mentally tough the turning point in this game they're going on 24 uh
Starting point is 01:32:17 10 you know Lawrence throws an interception um and then you know uh Cisco breaks up a play on the sideline to force a field where they finally got like a just some semblance of a stop okay at this point you're Trevor Lawrence is down two tackles is you down two tackles you're you're down 2710 uh and then immediately what does he do what does he do he rolls right and hits his a jones on that beautiful ball that travels 50 yards in the air um i don't know a dude's playing 10 yards off and still gets lost by Zay Jones. And then Jenkins picks off Prescott.
Starting point is 01:32:53 I don't know if his arm got hit on that throw, but it just didn't come out right. And then you get the next touchdown throw from Lawrence, which was great too, because Michael Parsons goes power inside, and his body slams into Lawrence so hard, but he just delivers a strike. So now they're up
Starting point is 01:33:09 27, 24. And then, you know, he's got that beautiful ball to Christian Kirk. And that's a shitty feeling as a rusher, Chris, right? When you get home, you hit somebody and the ball's out. And then you hear the cheers. And it's like, fuck. You hear the cheers.
Starting point is 01:33:22 I wasted a win. You're like, damn. But, you know, like, DAC had an opportunity here to win the game, and he did for them. He drives him back down, scores with three minutes to go. The Noah Brown touchdown was a heroic play, dude.
Starting point is 01:33:37 Think about that play. Do you remember that play? Trayvon Walker runs right through Tyler Smith. Dak spins right off him. It's a shame, you know, that these ad companies have to pay the N. NFL so much money to get this footage because there's your mattress commercial B roll right there that play.
Starting point is 01:33:52 Put him to sleep. Oh, no, it was just such a beautiful play. It was like a commercial play. It was the kind of play in like, you know, when they have the actors and pads, you know, and you're like, who's Jack Prescott playing against? That was like that play. It was a great play. And so again, like, Dak Prescott deserves a lot of praise for how he played in this game.
Starting point is 01:34:11 They should have won. They should have won this game. But Lawrence has a chance at 1.30 go and he fumbles, right? And you think that's it. He's trying to be a hero. And, you know, like, he's in the zone so much that he's not really thinking about the ball. He's just going out there with reckless abandon. And he fumbles.
Starting point is 01:34:24 And you're thinking, oh, it's a big lesson for him. He'll learn from this. He came up just short. This is how teams grow. But they get two stops. And on third and ten, I thought this was, you know, Mike McDaniel, Mike McCarthy, all these fucking Irish mics. Mike McDaniels, Mike McDaniels is the wise guy at the door at the Irish pub. and Mike McCarthy is the guy who strangles you
Starting point is 01:34:49 when you owe the people money. Yes, the hitman, the henchman. Yeah, he just strangles the fuck out of you. And then somewhere the coordinator from the wink Martindale's in the same bar. Oh, wink Martindale's back there just playing pool or something. Yeah, no, he does prostitution.
Starting point is 01:35:06 He's the guy running the prostitution wing and the poker game. Yeah, so all these Irish coaches of America. But they get two stops, okay? So they use two timeouts stopping the clock there. And Dallas decides we're going to throw on third and ten. Okay. There is how much time left at this point?
Starting point is 01:35:28 I mean, there's under a minute 15. Yeah, I was going to say like 130. So like you have a chance if you just run the ball to force them to take a timeout. They're going to get the ball back with no timeouts. Less than a minute. Pay attention because they're going to need that time out. And instead of giving them like an opportunity like, hey, let's throw a completion that the doesn't hit the ground and and maybe we're short but they got to use the time out they go for it
Starting point is 01:35:52 all it's incomplete and that absolutely kills them it absolutely kills them because you get the ball back um there were a couple things with the clock here you lose five seconds on the uh the completion to kirk with 45 seconds it was a bizarre thing because kirk caught the ball hits the ground and he's like waiting for them to blow the whistle they didn't blow it dead and dallas smartly kind of stands there he has to get back up and get tackled. That's five seconds there. That's really smart football. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 01:36:21 And then 17 seconds left, I thought Ingram had the play of the game. Okay? Ingram saved them here, okay, like quite literally. So you got 17 seconds left. You hit Ingram. He catches the crosser between the hash and the numbers. So you know football field is 53 yards wide. So he's, I don't know how far that is between the hash.
Starting point is 01:36:43 26 and a half, 27? Yeah, it's like, so. he's contacted immediately as he catches the ball for 50 60 feet he's getting tackled and he will not go down and it was one of the most bizarre sequences him getting out of bounds seemingly but then calling him in bounds and that was bullshit and then Jacksonville having to burn that time out but i thought they got i was like there's no way they're going to get this right they get the call right and they give him the time out back which they're going to need right because they hit zay jones to set up a field and they use the time out.
Starting point is 01:37:17 Yes. So Evan Ingram saves them the game, dude. I mean, that was like... And big throws. But Evan Ingram, if he does... That's extra effort. That's it. No, but like physically, they can't win the game if he doesn't do that.
Starting point is 01:37:28 Yes, extra effort. So it's just, so many incredible things happen to the end of this game. With all the sports that went on this weekend, that was just bananas, this game gets lost in the shovel a little bit. This was an amazing, amazing football game. And, of course, you get the, you get the field goal to send it into overtime. and then Jenkins picks off Noah Brown. They might have missed a block in the back on deck.
Starting point is 01:37:52 Can you pull that interception? Oh, I didn't see that. You might want to pull up that interception. And the old Tyrant Smith runs him down. Yeah. You know? Watch this interception. It was a weird thing seeing him a right tackle.
Starting point is 01:38:07 Yeah, I mean, the first time I ever played Tyron Smith, it was a right tackle, and I was like a left end, so I'm more like, and I was like, oh, this kid's pretty good. He's okay. you know and then and then and then and then he went over to left tackle and i was like oh my god yeah he's been struck by lightning yeah he's just totally different Kyle dach's making that tackle or at least getting a piece of him if he doesn't get contacted and where does he get contacted what dac doesn't understand is is that a block in the back i'm trying to be as fair as i can here it is a block in the back
Starting point is 01:38:34 it's a block in the back so dach's think and make him cut back it's a block in the back what Dack doesn't realize is there's nobody to cut it back too. He's got to use the sideline as his teammate. Well, Dack doesn't play defense, but the whole thing is... He plays Madden. That could be called. I've seen stranger things called, but they're not going to call it here. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:53 Well, you know, people would be a lot louder about it if it wasn't like, you know, the Patriots thing on the punt return. Everybody was like, that's a block in the back because they're like, we don't want the Patriots to win. But, you know, like myself included, I want the Cowboys to win. Nobody wants to see this shit. They're like, I didn't see it. Yeah, I didn't see it.
Starting point is 01:39:08 Yeah. I didn't see nothing. Nobody talks about that. It wouldn't change the outcome all that much, though. Right, because... It'd be 15 yards. So where did that play occur? They would be at their 45.
Starting point is 01:39:18 They're 45. So they have 10 yards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But a kick, a field goal would have won it at that point. But you can't cross that line. You've got to win, you know, and there's a lot that could happen. I'm just saying, you know, you're looking at that and you're like, damn, I did not see that earlier because nobody was talking about it.
Starting point is 01:39:34 Because I was screaming at the TV. Vomiting on the floor. No, I was excited. So I was excited because now the Cowboys, you're going to get the Cowboys best this week. You are. I mean, you were going to get it anyways, but like they just took a loss that they probably feel like they shouldn't have taken.
Starting point is 01:39:50 And the Eagles, they just took care of business. They went out there in the frozen tundra, and, you know, the Bears, they didn't have anybody to throw to nothing. Justin Fields is heroic. That run was incredible. Awesome. But. Best touchdown that wasn't a touchdown ever.
Starting point is 01:40:03 The Eagles were just too much, man. They were just too much. And Jalen and the cold. He threw a couple balls again outside the numbers. I know I say this all the time, but is there a better outside the numbers thrower deep in the NFL this year than Jalen Hertz? I mean, the balls are right on the fucking money.
Starting point is 01:40:19 Like it's Velcro. He just drops those passes in. And AJ Brown is just even with his defender and it's in like puts it right here. The defender can't do anything about it. No question. You can say, and like you would give the receivers more credit if not for the fact that these aren't 50-50 balls.
Starting point is 01:40:34 Right. Like you said, they're right in the in the breadbasket. Yeah. But the Eagles D-line, again, like three guys with two sacks. They've got multiple guys, almost four guys that have an opportunity to double digits. They hadn't had a double-digit rusher in 10 years. Now they almost got four. That's what, that's what, you know, having a really deep D-line, having great players and having really good coverage will do.
Starting point is 01:40:56 And people always ask me, well, they ask me for a while, hey, who's better? This D-line, a D-line from 2017, it's this D-line. because we didn't even have a guy with double digits on that D-line. Okay, Brandon Graham's got an opportunity to do it for the first time in his career, double digits. Josh Sweat, I think he's at like nine and a half. Let me tell you a story about Josh Sweat. When in 2018, my last year in the NFL draft day, I kind of got the picture that I should maybe get out of Dodge in 2017 when they drafted Derek Barnett and ruin my good night, sleep in Germany. I remember that.
Starting point is 01:41:31 Yeah, woke up in the middle of the night. A hundred text messages like, geez, they don't like you much, do they? did you see that and I'm like fuck I'm just taking a piss it's like I'm in I'm in Frankfurt um Gooten talk yeah good and not Guten talk bad and I woke up in the morning depressed and went and like bought a watch I just like was like sad boy when German timepiece yeah the brightling and then and then next day next next year you 2018 it's draft day and I'm like what could go wrong I'm gonna go camping so I go I'm out of reception for the day I come back in go to Harris Teeter and and my
Starting point is 01:42:05 phone lights up and I got you we drafted another DN. This freak show from Florida State should be a top five pick but he almost has leg amputated and I'm like hey how he um you talk to me you know like just tell me something yeah and he's like he's just a developmental piece the whole thing and I'm like and as soon as I met Josh sweat I could see why they want to develop this kid I mean he's a close thing to Robert Quinn that I played with from an athletic standpoint and that's saying a lot yeah and and and now you're seeing. That's saying more than a lot.
Starting point is 01:42:35 Yeah, and now you're seeing that come to fruition. This D-line is, it's not only terrifying for other teams, but the fact that the Eagles are 13-1, they're going to play home games the whole way. And so, you know, the links rockin. These guys, there's fucking 18 of them, and they're all coming. Yeah, when one comes out to get a blow, you know, the guy that's coming off the sideline to come in for them
Starting point is 01:43:02 is more often than not in the NFL a huge step down from what you were playing with the starter. But with the Eagles, it's like, you know, there are no free downs. And that's the way Howie's drawn this thing up. And, you know, how he's had misses, but the things that he, and he's had misses in this respect, too, like trying to overcrowded D-Line Room. It's not always, not always adding the right pieces. But he has hit this year out of the park.
Starting point is 01:43:25 They've done it through development with Josh Sweat. They've done it by keeping veterans like Brandon Graham. There were people that wanted Brandon Graham to move on. He had an Achilles. they want to Fletcher Cox You know some people want to Fletcher Cox gone Fletcher Cox has remained an important part of that group They brought in Hassan Reddick
Starting point is 01:43:39 They brought in a revelation He's been a revelation and nice And then they've had They've had the Reddick revelation And they've had they brought in depth They brought in run stoppers Everybody has different roles You know you've got you've got Hargrave
Starting point is 01:43:54 The whole thing dude So the engine of this team is the D line And the O line the two best lines in the league yeah and you saw them Justin Fields had that big run yesterday to set up their touchdown and then the D line was like enough of this we're not doing this anymore and then it was like it was sack sacks after again and again they just they didn't want to see that anymore Justin Fields running by them it's fucking awesome dude they're they're a great group so this week's going to be great I don't know what's the line cowboys one and a half okay it's going to be and you know
Starting point is 01:44:27 you get three at home so what they're saying is the eagles are a slightly better team I think the Eagles quarterback is better. I think the Eagles D-line is better. I think the Eagles O line is better. I think the Eagles receivers are better. The edge for me is it's the spot for the Cowboys. If there's any edge for the Cowboys, they're coming off a loss,
Starting point is 01:44:49 their backs are against the wall. They're not going to get in the playoffs, but they need to win this game. They're not going to, I mean, they're not going to win home field advantage, but they probably have, is there anybody breathing down their neck from a playoff?
Starting point is 01:45:04 Not really. So they don't need to win this game. No, they don't. So they don't have an edge. They just hate the Eagles. They're kind of locked into a first round matchup against... The worst division winner gets the best wildcar team, which is going to be the Cowboys,
Starting point is 01:45:17 which to me, like, I know Tampa's had injuries since week one, but that didn't look great for the Cowboys. And, you know, the Cowboys are a little bit different on the road than they are at home. I think the Cowboys would be favored with talking to some guys online.
Starting point is 01:45:34 That's my evidence, but by like four, four and a half on the road at Tampa, I might take Tampa not to win that game, but definitely to cover and to make that a tough ball game. That defense could give them headaches. There will be an important four minute in that game. Yes. Like it'll come down to a four minute.
Starting point is 01:45:52 Something, yeah. So, you know, people scoff at the bucks, and I've said this all year, like the bucks are cooked, but they can win a home playoff game. They cooked. They cook. The best moments in a sports fan's life are in football season.
Starting point is 01:46:07 I'm not talking about September. I'm not talking about the first week in October. I'm not even talking about the second week in October. I'm talking about when it gets colder, the temperature drops, the games get bigger, the hits get harder, and you can curl up and watch some meaningful football. I like to do it with a Miller light from the fridge and a cold frosty mug from the freezer.
Starting point is 01:46:28 Frosty mug, meat, a cold, beautiful can of Miller Light from my fridge. That's teamwork. We come together, we can make a great play out there. And the best play to make on a Sunday is a nice cold Miller Light and a frosty mug at home. That's my favorite thing. Maybe a fire in the fireplace. Yeah, now we're talking. But Miller Light, it's an original, and it's more than that.
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Starting point is 01:47:52 Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Let's get into the mentions and get out of here, Kyle, because I got to go fucking spend some of this cash out money. Best plane ride, Chris, I got to go with the Cincinnati Bengals. Nice. You know, they get an opportunity to take a nice little winter trip down to the warm weather. It was beautiful to the shots. I fucking love playing in California, Arizona, and Florida.
Starting point is 01:48:20 If I could do my career again, I'd try to play for one of the teams in those states. It would be best flight. Never quite made it. They didn't bring me. Huge second half for the Bengals. Big momentum boost. They beat the goat, who's not dead yet. Worst flight's got to be New England.
Starting point is 01:48:37 Worst flight has to be New England. Worst flight is probably New England, but I want to throw Elon Musk in the... Where was he? He was in Qatar with Jared Kushner, and somebody told him like, yeah, you got to step down at Twitter. And then he was like, I'm putting a poll out there. But do you want me to step down at the...
Starting point is 01:48:56 And what was the poll results? It was like... Yes is leading. like 60%. Yeah. And then, you know, he's had a couple weeks. I know some of you guys are like Elon fanboys, and this isn't... Hanging with Jared Kushner is the least annoying thing that Elon must have done in the last
Starting point is 01:49:10 month. This is not entirely political for me. I just think the guy's a goober. You know what I mean? Like yeah, okay, I get it. Like most of the country, we all have different opinions, but like, you're just a fucking goober. And then, you know, he goes, Chappelle
Starting point is 01:49:25 brings him out on stage a couple weeks ago and he gets booed. Like he's just, the guy's just a washing machine, he's realizing that like, hey, you're not that cool. You're just rich. And being the center of attention is not great. Yeah, and you're just rich. Yeah. Like, you know, being rich can only get you so far. So anyways, yeah, like Jeff Bezos to lower orbit. You might take over the world, Elon, but we don't like you. Uh, so yeah, he's flying home on his little, like, I don't know, his jet with no friends alone, um, harassing flight attendance. New England
Starting point is 01:49:59 worst flight home. Yeah, like, I don't want to be on that plane. I don't want to be on that plane. It's a long flight. Last year after the the Steelers lost in in Minnesota and all their receivers were just like fucking up left and right. I've made
Starting point is 01:50:15 a joke that Mike Tomlin was like throwing people off the plane like they were getting ready to go parachuting. Yes. Like, you know, and they opened the door they're like you, you, you. Like Bill's got the door open. He's like, Jacoby. no names though remandre we might need him yeah yeah yep mm-hmm uh worst flight uh new england as well best flight argentina that team you're right get the fuck out of this hellhole let's go back to the
Starting point is 01:50:40 land of milk and honey go drink some beer with all these beautiful brunette women it's like that's one of the best flights of all time huh that's one of the best flights of all time like well that the rolling stones probably had a few good ones you know like but imagine it's like that it's like that It's like that. But you haven't drank in fucking eons, dude. You haven't gotten, you haven't partied in eons. And now you're kings of the world, dude. You're kings of the world.
Starting point is 01:51:09 Yeah, Best Flight, Argentina. I got a STL Memorial slash Frank Gore Award. Sure. It's going to go to Frank Gore Jr. Yes, Kyle. 21 carries, 329 yards. That's a lot. Two touchdowns as well.
Starting point is 01:51:22 Lending Tree Bowl win for Southern Miss, Frank Gore Jr. Runs just like his dad. Shout out to Reed for getting those stats together for me. Runs just like his dad. I mean, and I am one of the biggest fans of his dad. Like, he was incredible on the field. Yeah, no, Frank Gore Jr. is a beast. I always, you know, I do root for second generation guys.
Starting point is 01:51:45 I know a couple of them. I love nepotistic. Oh, yeah. Nobody's going to say that's nepotism. Right. Okay. God, thanks for saying it. I said it.
Starting point is 01:51:57 All right, so Hollow Man. This is a, it's an easy week for Hollow Men. Jacoby Meyer, throw him in. I mean, he's the hollowest hollow man. But I also want to say this, there was a, you know, if you watch the Jackson State game, they were playing North Carolina Central. This is Dionne Sanders last game as the head coach at Jackson State. It's like basically like it's got to end perfectly.
Starting point is 01:52:20 It's got to end. Like, and it's third down. They have a chance to tie the game in double overtime or whatever it was. And, you know, Sanders throws the ball to a tight end, who happens to be a Caucasian guy. And he drops the ball. He essentially puts the raisins in the potato salad. He was a double agent.
Starting point is 01:52:41 Or whatever, whatever he'll say. Yeah. You fucked up the mac and cheese. Yeah. Yeah. So that was a tough, that was a tough one for that guy. What do you think about Dionne's son at quarterback? I haven't watched him.
Starting point is 01:52:55 I don't know enough. He made some nice throws. this last game. Yeah, I know I'm excited to be like kind of a Colorado. 30 of 40 for 349 and 4 touchdowns. Everyone's saying he's legit. I don't know. Well,
Starting point is 01:53:07 let's the, the touchdown he threw at the end of regulation. I mean, like it was, they had to have it. They were, the game was on the line. And in fact, he had a drop, you know,
Starting point is 01:53:18 that, that hurt their chances of a player two before. I think Travis Hunter dropped the ball. So, I mean, he put them in a position to win. And that's a touchdown at the end of that game, if not for allowing that guy to the cookout.
Starting point is 01:53:33 And in the locker room after the game, Dion was consoling that guy and telling him it's not on you. It's on all of us. It doesn't define you. This will make you stronger. That's real, man. I thought maybe Dion was canceling his flights to Colorado. No, but that seems like you didn't make the luggage.
Starting point is 01:53:52 Yeah. Yeah, no, that was Samson. He's like, you, to me. We only fuck with Louis. That was Sampsonite. But yeah, no, that's got to feel bad. Says it right there on the suitcase. Swimmy, Swimmy, Swimmy, Swimmy, Swampsonite.
Starting point is 01:54:08 I was the way off. Viewing party, I want to go with, I want to know on Saturday how Joe Thomas was feeling watching that game with the Colts, because remember he had that big, impassioned diatribe, which I think was correct, maybe a little too much dip on the chip, but he was correct in spirit about the process and how Jeff Saturday cut the line.
Starting point is 01:54:33 And Rob Chitzink. Chudzinski. Chud? What? And so, what, it's just out of nowhere? He was talking about him. Chudd. I live next to a Chudzinski.
Starting point is 01:54:46 Yeah, uh-huh. And so I want to know what Joe Thomas is thinking as that leads just disappearing. Is he like, yes? Yeah, he is. Yeah, he is. same thing with Frank Reich because Frank Reich had the biggest comeback in in NFL history. Did you know that, Kyle? It was the Buffalo Bills against the Oilers and the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:55:03 They came back from like 32. 32 down in 1993. So they beat him by a point. Oh yeah, I did know this. Yeah. And so Frank Reich, obviously the coach that, you know, and Siriani, if Seriani's comments on Frank Reich, this is for Frank Reich. Yeah, if that's any indication of the temperature there, like I'm sure Frank is not real pleased about getting replaced by Jeff Saturday, who's put in zero work as a coach in the NFL. And we love Jeff Saturday, the guy. You know, in some ways this was an offer. He couldn't refuse, I guess, some people would say, but. I wouldn't turn it down. Yeah, I mean, so. Coach six games. Yeah. No expectations. You're not afraid, are you? Not at all. Not at all. Hallowman, Jeff Saturday.
Starting point is 01:55:46 Well, you got Holloman? Yeah, Jeff Saturday, bro. So I just want to know what Frank Wright was thinking. I want to know what Joe Thomas was thinking. and Bill Cowher reaffirms what he was saying yeah he had some fucking things to say about the old Jeff Saturday yeah
Starting point is 01:56:02 I love Coach Coward yeah I walked up to him yesterday I was like you were right and he was like he put his hand he just was like that's so awesome
Starting point is 01:56:12 that's so great that you that you get to hang out with Bill Coward Bill Cowher Phil Sims you know boomer aside James Brown all these guys that like you know we watch on the weekend
Starting point is 01:56:22 I get to see these fuckers before work. They're awesome. That's cool. That's cool. Bill's cool, huh? The best. I would love to play for Bill. Yeah, hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:31 Fuck yeah. You guys got any fly on the wall? I have a, Conway Award. I have a fly on the wall. My fly on the wall, as we alluded to earlier, was Roger Goodell picking up the red
Starting point is 01:56:41 White House phone and calling the people in Las Vegas and saying, it was a touchdown. Let it stand. I saw it. I was sitting in my recliner. Saw it.
Starting point is 01:56:50 My infamous recliner. Speaking of a red. Red phones, why aren't remote controls red? I lost my remote control 12 times this week in my layer. Why do we not make remote controls the color of something that's more easily? Do you think that would help? Yes. That's a good point.
Starting point is 01:57:07 It's not like hidden in the couch or something? No, but a lot of times it's like on top of other things that are grayish or, you know, like it's a bright yellow highlight or color. Why don't we do that? People lose remote controls all the fucking time. Do we not? That's a great point. We should. I'm telling you, dude.
Starting point is 01:57:21 I'm going to write my senator. Kyle, please. Matt, you guys are married. Are you jealous? He agrees with everything you say. We never lose the remote. It's always up your ass. That's where we leave it. So the buttons are warm. No, Kyle, you guys, I guess you guys use an iPad, huh? It ain't no minute. Okay, so you gave neon clickers? What award? No award. I just think remote should be more easily identifiable to us. Can I give a viewing party? Sure.
Starting point is 01:57:58 So I just wanted to say Main Street Argentina Buenos Aires, but it turns out there's a name. I would love to have been at Avenida Nueve de Julio, which is 9th Avenue of July. July 9th Avenue.
Starting point is 01:58:15 Oh, I thought it was like Julio's Avenue. Well, it is. And right now it's Messies Avenue. And I would have loved to have been there because as you talked about earlier, all the beautiful people, men, women, dogs. I'm sure the dogs are gorgeous. Great. Yeah, everybody's hot there.
Starting point is 01:58:31 Just a hot country. Hot country. Okay. Game ball. Is that all that's left? Yeah. Look at that dogo Argentino. Literally.
Starting point is 01:58:42 That's one of my favorite dog breeds. I wanted to show you. Great dog. This Rocco's modern life. 10 to 15 years life expectancy? That's a little long. No eyebrows. Oh, that's sketchy.
Starting point is 01:58:53 The bite force of a tiger. Yeah. Of a mini Cooper. Okay. So. Like if it landed on you. Yes. So.
Starting point is 01:59:04 Oh, Bevel Conway. Geez. Fourth quarter of the Bills game. They can get much prettier than that. I mean, just frame that whole thing, dude. That's why we play. And it's funny because I tweeted people who like Dome Stadium should be ashamed. And all these people,
Starting point is 01:59:20 were tagging Kurt Warner. And Kurt Warner was like in my mention. So I was watching Kurt Warner like argue with people all night. People were calling him cowards. He was like, you don't know me. I was like, I was like, Kurt, this is, this is an online community. These people are trolling you. And Kurt's arguments only because they're constantly, I'm tagged in all of them,
Starting point is 01:59:43 we're like, well, you know, we don't like a show in a dome. Well, he said, you know, it's not, not. being tough it's just that you know if you play outside it can change history for your team and the whole thing i'm like yeah well it's kind of like that's how the weather works you know um the other teams are playing in the way factor the other teams are playing in the weather as well uh but yeah i thought that was a gorgeous gorgeous scene um i know who it wasn't it was it wasn't giants commanders Kyle disagree that was a beautiful game it was in the running for me uh they need to put a fucking filter on Saints Falcons, bro. That was one of the most hideous things I've ever had to look
Starting point is 02:00:25 at briefly from time to time because I had the under, live under. Yeah, that was, I mean, the game too, but it was gross. The lighting at that stadium. And the end of the game. It was kind of ugly too. Oh, what happened? Which part? Yeah. Going out of bounds with zero seconds left on the clock. Oh, who went out of bounds of zero seconds left? Ritter, right? Did he really? Oh, I thought it was, for me the under was all I cared about. So wait, he did it. He could have, he was rolling. He did a Georgia Tech?
Starting point is 02:00:54 Yeah. And they had, so they had eight seconds. They could have, uh, they, they had like one play to get within field goal range or try a deep shot and instead he, instead he rolls left and runs out of bounds instead of, uh. For me, it was, it was the Steelers. What, the Bellocomway? Just the Steelers. Just the Steelers.
Starting point is 02:01:10 It was, Nogie Harris being an absolute bully going into the end zone in the first quarter. That was, it was High Smith getting home. It was T.J. It was Hayward getting home. It was Hayward getting home. Yeah. Because they know that they got question marks at the quarterback position. And Mitch played well enough to win yesterday, but the defense had his back. And Carolina, their MO the last few weeks has been, you know, just choked the life out of teams with the running game. They've got three backs.
Starting point is 02:01:33 Yeah. They can hand the ball to. Pittsburgh said, nah, son. We got our boy today. Who did I give that to just a second ago? You gave it to Buffalo, Miami. Oh, I was going to say this. Okay, I was talking about Atlanta.
Starting point is 02:01:46 Here's something to watch as a studio. Okay, my Rams under big, big win total bet, going to hit. The Bucks bet, going to hit. You know, Saints bet, not going to hit. There's a Falcons bet. There's some other bets, but like the Falcons bet, it was five. So five's a push for me. They're at five wins right now.
Starting point is 02:02:07 And for the longest time during this NFL season, I thought, like, I'm going to have to pay that bet out. Maybe I'm not going to have to pay that bet out. Who do they play now? At Baltimore and then home with Arizona and finish home at Tampa. Arizona home games pretty bad. Arizona is going to fuck me, isn't it? I do think Arizona's tanking for draft positions, so I would be a little nervous. Well, maybe they could think about my family a little bit.
Starting point is 02:02:31 Because, I mean, think about it. You know? In Colt McCoy, I trust. The funny thing about Atlanta. Ready for this? Phil Emery drafted me. now he works there in a scouting position. Ryan Pace extended me.
Starting point is 02:02:48 Now he works there in a scouting position. Maybe it's time for me to come home. Yeah, well, that would really bother Will Compton. What we should do is you should be the first podcast to come out of retirement and join the Atlanta Falcons. We do a big graphic. And get my 10th year. Is it your 10th year?
Starting point is 02:03:02 Yeah. It would be your 10th year? Yeah. Kyle, year 10. We should, Kyle, hey, Atlanta Falcons. Trademark. Yeah, trademark. You guys just lost an Oregon duck.
Starting point is 02:03:13 Marcus Marietta just walked out. on you guys and got surgery, which is hilarious, by the way. Kyle's coming back and he's going to play for the Atlanta Falcons. He's going to reunite with Phil Emery and Ryan Pace, and it's going to be year 10. Marriota had a kid on the seventh, his first kid, and got benched on like the eighth. And then he walked out and got surgery on the 9th. Fuck yeah, dude. I have a kid now.
Starting point is 02:03:37 I don't need to deal with this. I got asked by Jonathan Jones, the lead insider at CBS. He was like, you know, during our show, he was like, you know, it's just an unprecedented. professional essentially and I was like hold on a minute yeah it's like the fucking check clears you know yeah they have the right to cut me I have the right to walk away yeah well uh also maybe he needed surgery yeah maybe we don't disclose all of our fucking injuries okay well um I um I'm happy to be back seeing the light of day guys sunlight hurt my eyes this morning I hadn't been outside and fucking week uh and it was worth it coming into work and and getting this show done and one more
Starting point is 02:04:14 Give it up for cash app, guys. I mean, we are... Fuck Venmo. New members. Fuck Fenmo. Yeah, Fenmo. Big birthday shout out to our younger brother, Howie. He is 33 on the 23rd.
Starting point is 02:04:27 You scared the shit out of me, Kyle. I was like, is it the 23rd? You know, big shot, I got you. And this is also a reminder to everybody out there who hasn't followed up on some of the great ideas I'm sure you had for Christmas gifts. Go get it done. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:39 Go get it done. Get a bag. You don't even have to wrap it. Gift bag, a little paper. Boom. It's a thought that counts. The thought that counts. I thought about getting you a present.

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