Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Week 15 Review. MNF. Drew Brees. Sh** I Saw.
Episode Date: December 18, 20195:13 - Shit I Saw. 18:08 - Famous Memorbilia's Current Location. 28:19 - Macon's Fantasy Finish. 32:02 - MNF. 1:07:18 - Quick Hitters. 1:19:06 - Corrections About Chalk Media: Following the unfilter...ed voice and vision of Chris Long, Chalk Media is the interactive online community for you, the intelligent and humorous sports fan. Driven by access, Chalk delivers a unique perspective that cuts through the canned talking points and provides a variety of content from your favorite sports and entertainment celebrities. Here at Chalk, we don’t take ourselves too seriously, but we are rooted in challenging the perception of professional athletes. We embrace the “real” with a unique combination of humor and intelligence. Chalk is a community with a voice beyond 240 characters that brings a perspective and vibe to a traditionally brash and boastful sports media space. Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more. Nothing is off limits at Chalk - hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. 🌍🏀🏈SUBSCRIBE NOW ⚾🏒⛰️ http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Making his back healthy and he's wearing a jean jacket.
This is like Michael Jordan in number 45, making it a jean jacket.
That's right.
He's back.
What does it mean?
I have no idea.
Welcome to Greenlight episode 15.
Thank you.
Good to have you back healthy, making.
Thanks, Chris.
I appreciate that.
Feeling good.
This should be my highest energy show to date.
Like we said,
um,
um, mid-November to mid-December was really rough for you.
Right.
It's a new month.
Yeah.
I know it doesn't look like that on the calendar.
We can manipulate it mentally.
It starts, it started this weekend.
Deck 14 through Jan 13 is one of my favorite months out of the year.
It's a great month.
It's a month where Macon looks rejuvenated, healthy.
The bags under his eyes are going away.
Oh.
Yeah.
Thanks.
I don't think they ever go away again.
Like I've said on a previous show.
But I was working my way down to the fact that you're just just how I look.
Your color is back.
you're wearing usually you do the the flannel thing but i've never been a big fan of the really
lightweight flannel like i don't know it's not a flannel lightweight uh like an izodd shirt oh that's like
kind of your uni every day no it's not what is it then explain it um it's not a flannel it's a dress
shirt with the with what would you call that a pattern pattern yeah okay not a fan yeah like that you
You added the flannel material to your arsenal today.
Okay, thanks.
Yeah, this is a nice shirt.
I like this shirt.
I think this is an Orvis shirt.
Orvis, yeah, I like that.
You should go to Orvis a lot more.
Thanks.
Do you like my jacket?
Yeah, it's actually, it's the jacket you're wearing,
but it's not your jacket.
Yeah.
That'll be my jacket.
I'm wearing Chris's jacket.
Yeah.
It's a little big.
but it looked cool on him
and then he flung it off
to show one of his graphic teas
one more of his graphic teas.
Do I have too many graphic teas?
All your T's are graphic T's.
Well, all your shirts are lightweight,
tiny pattern,
Izod style,
buy them at Belk shirts.
I don't buy them at Belk.
Where do you buy them?
Oh, huh.
I don't know.
You're Eljo's?
Eljo's, yeah.
Your B. Croft and Bull?
shout out to some local businesses.
Yeah.
We take the time every week to shout out local businesses.
We do.
Actually, this started with a compliment,
but as it goes,
we don't exactly compliment each other directly.
What I meant to say was,
I like the outfit, man.
And I took two minutes to rip your everyday uni to shreds.
This jacket halfway works sitting down.
If I were to stand up,
you would see that it's more of a cape on me.
Though taller, I do weigh less.
than you. Yeah. No, yeah. About, well, big mystery,
Macon's wait. I think we're going to delve into that Friday. We'll take some
guesses. We'll put a tweet. We'll fire off a tweet later and see if anybody's
right on. Maybe the closest to guessing it correctly gets a shout out at least on the
jacket. No, it does not get the jacket. I like the jacket. That's my jacket.
Oh, wait, wait, hold on. I'm Chris. I'm so,
woke on societal issues.
I smoke
dubies. I hate
lunch.
I love Carson
Wents and I hate the Rams even though
they gave me my start.
Oh my God.
I know what he's doing right now. A nice big con
attempt because I don't hate the Rams.
I'm also
not woke.
At all.
Oh, I'm charitable as hell.
I am charitable as hell. Give me awards.
Send them to me please.
If they involve money for the foundation, I am all about it.
On topic, thank you for teeing that up.
Waterboys has launched a hometown H2O program.
That is going to finally answer the question for so many of you.
What are you doing for America?
Well, we're doing a lot for America.
Check us out at waterboys.org.
We're going to tackle some issues domestically.
speaking of
well actually having nothing to do with waterboys.org
there's water involved
talking about talking about
we've talked a lot about bathroom hygiene
and we've talked about hygiene lately on this show
love hygiene
we talked about the toilet
mostly
well Dr. Faxe Nate Collins
for those of you who listen
sent in a Snapchat
that he saw from one of his
former teammates in Chicago.
And I want you check this out and tell me
if this is acceptable.
For those of you listening, that is a toilet
at the Bears facility, which is a great looking toilet.
Yeah, a lot of privacy.
Nice back splash.
Looks like a private place.
There's not like a, this stall,
the wall goes down to the floor, which is nice.
Yep.
Nothing worse than awkwardly sitting next to somebody
who's also doing business.
and seeing their shoes and being afraid they can identify you.
In football, if you absolutely blow up the bathroom
in the bathroom at the facility,
don't wear your shower shoes in
because they all have the numbers on them.
You can't hide.
That's a nice stall.
But for those of you listening and not watching,
that stall had a toilet in it,
which was covered with shower towels.
Yeah, that's a bath towel.
That's a bath towel that that homeboy put instead of toilet paper.
I don't think that's acceptable.
I've never seen anything more acceptable.
Then putting a shower towel as the seat cover?
Yeah, that's clean.
They have a bath towel down as a mat for your feet,
and they have a can of liceol spray next door.
You got to get the poo-peri or poop-pery.
It's hard because you're mispronounced in the first half,
you might as well misprose a second.
Pooperae.
Nice.
Karch Kari.
Karch Karee.
Yeah.
So you just, so you spray this pooperae right in the, in the john and nothing that comes after
it smells.
Believe me, it actually works.
Yeah, I believe you.
Yeah, you believe me.
But I don't understand how you think that's acceptable because those towels go back in the
wash and people have to dry themselves off with them at a later date.
Yeah, you do have to suspend some disbelief.
when you're using the locker room towels.
For those of us not in NFL facilities,
we do go to gyms, their towels provided.
Where do you think those towels are going?
Well, they're not going on people's toilets
while they drop violent dukies
with back splash hitting the...
I mean, part of that towel was hanging over the rim.
What's going on toilet seats normally?
Nothing.
Cheeks.
Cheeks?
But there is a happy medium if you don't believe in the cheeks on seats.
The toilet paper thing I think is perfectly acceptable,
although I don't think it's necessary.
I don't think you just fuck everybody else's day up
by using the towel that you're going to be drawing your face with the next day.
Like, Brandon Brooks could have done something in that stall.
And if that was an acceptable thing,
Brandon Brooks was not only sitting on that,
but he was also shitting.
on that. Yeah. I guess if I'm going to say that Brandon Brooks's cheeks are on the towel.
I don't really want to talk about Brandon's cheeks. I'm sorry, we did this.
In other settings, you're going to say... Shout out to Brandon Brooks, though. Best Guard in the
league. He's clean after that. He's clean after a shower when towel is to cheek. You would hope.
But if you come right off the practice field, you plop a bath towel down. Okay. That's not acceptable to me.
Maybe you're right
and maybe you swayed me
I was just saying in general
that looks like a nice setup
to walk in here I swayed you
it's a nice it's a luxurious bathroom
respect the facilities
is all I'm saying
another thing I learned recently
was that if you have a toothbrush
in your bathroom
probably cover it
don't just throw it in a Dixie Cup
do you know why?
Particles
particles everywhere
Yeah
As soon as you flush that toilet
it's like acid rain.
What you do on Mother Earth,
what you do in that bowl,
what goes around comes around.
Some will tell you to shut the lid and then flush.
Yeah, I think that's a good way to do it.
Just to be safe, though,
maybe throw your toothbrush in the thing.
That's your hygiene update for the week.
In your toothbrush travel deal?
Yeah, travel deal.
Those things can get kind of groat.
They can get gross.
They can certainly get gross.
Then maybe you're throwing them in the dishwasher.
What I generally do is get a new toothbrush every week.
Yeah.
Is that a normal rate or?
No, that's far too frequent.
Dennis might agree with you.
Yeah.
I recently got...
Oral B loves it.
I got some toothbrushes.
Yeah?
Yeah, I had to clean a little bit of chocolate and almond butter out of a USB port on a computer.
And so I just grabbed a few.
That sounds like that had to be difficult.
Yeah.
Maybe watch where you put your computer down.
I have learned that lesson.
So that's your hygiene update for the week that took 10 minutes.
So I'm on the Rosillo show on Mondays,
and we get this running joke where I make fun of him for doing everything alone.
Recently he was at,
I got a tip that he was at a Manhattan Beach fireworks show all alone.
Turns out he was actually walking back from a basketball court that was closed.
and he was dejected, saw the fireworks and stopped,
to take a look.
Of course, he was playing basketball alone as well.
We talked about it on the pod.
The users submitted, not the users,
the listeners submitted some great artwork,
some Ryan Rosillo art.
Can we throw that up for the people watching?
This is a rendering of Ryan,
which actually, it's got fireworks to,
they're giving him too much hair.
I don't know.
He doesn't have that much hair.
If you were to grow it out.
If you were to grow it out, but why is he doesn't...
He's not doing that, though.
Right.
So you've got this guy with the stubble
that looks like a cross between Bruce Willis and Olin-Cruits
who we had on the show.
But nothing like Ryan Rizillo.
He's got a bag labeled chicken and rice
as if that's a restaurant that he got takeoff from.
And he's got, of course, his Boston Celtics looking shorts,
and he's walking through fireworks.
There was also some pencil artworks,
some sketching, if you will.
This thing's indescribable.
This is the perk of watching on YouTube and not listening on the pod.
Yeah.
YouTube channel, chalk media, greenlight pod, fishball, all of it is free.
It's also fire.
On the internet.
Yeah, so check that.
Shout out to the artists who chef that up and sent it to Ryan's DMs.
I have a lot of thoughts.
I was an avid listener of the Ryan Rosillo show.
We started doing this show.
I have a bit less time.
So thank you for that recap.
Fireworks.
Evidently, go ahead.
I'm sorry.
No, please.
Evidently, the show sucks with me on it,
according to a lot of NBA bros who are,
they miss their old Rissillo solo.
They have them on Wednesdays and Friday.
Yeah, just enjoy Wednesday and Friday.
And the NFL season,
NFL season's almost over.
Yeah.
We get our, we get our Ryan Rissolo pod back.
You can talk about, you can talk about, you know,
next gen stats and analytics and the Milwaukee Bucks,
Phoenix Suns.
Well, bucks are actually good and sons are pretty good now too.
That's NBA with C-Long.
Yep.
Fireworks are the most overrated thing in the world.
You just let that lie.
At first I was like basketball alone,
but then I realized I go get shots up alone all the time.
You do?
Yeah.
I haven't since this torn bicep
that you haven't asked me about since I first told you,
so I haven't been able to do that in a couple months,
a couple few months.
Yeah, about that bicep.
How's it doing?
Not well. You might want to factor that into the weight approximation.
There's got to be at least a couple ounces that we're missing from that bicep.
Well, I'm not getting the curls in.
Yeah, you're not.
Dude. And we were at like 35 pounds.
And that might be all of my thoughts on that.
Yeah, I mean, listen, me and Riscilla went through things that are acceptable to do alone.
I think there's a number of things that are acceptable to do alone.
I love everything.
Like almost everything.
Yeah, I mean, like literally, the,
The list of things I'd rather do with other people is way shorter than my list of things I'd like to do alone.
Heck yeah.
Other people raising a family.
Right.
Being on a team sports team.
Can't do it alone.
Other than that, I'm a tennis player.
Going to the movies, you hit it off the wall.
Right, or I could, you know, have my singular career.
Yeah, that's true.
But you also need somebody to play against.
You're not really doing it alone.
I would just say like going to a bar sitting at like a dye bar that's not packed.
Sitting at a packed bar alone is awkward.
Sitting at a bar that's moderately full or empty is nice alone.
Just talking to the bartender, taking it all in, staring at your phone.
Yeah.
You know, I love to do that.
Also, going to a restaurant alone is not bad.
It's great.
Perfectly acceptable.
Yes.
And also, I would say, smell.
smoking doobies and listening to Otis Redding,
now that my football career's over.
I like the new attitude today.
He's actually going to add something to some of these segments,
not just sit there like he's mute.
Thanks.
So, yeah, I would say, I would say going to concert alone,
speaking of Otis Redding.
Oh, you're still going, okay.
It is nice.
Doing podcasts alone is nice.
Coming soon.
Yeah.
One of these days.
We just have to find some.
who can do what Macon does,
which is going to be hard.
You just said doing it alone, bro.
That would mean nobody else would be here.
Yeah, you're right.
Totally fucked that up.
I totally fucked that up.
We were talking about Rosillo's art.
I also saw Dalvin Cook hold up an oxygen mask to his ear this weekend.
Any working theories on what's going on here would be great.
He has to be joking.
But it doesn't look like anybody else is in on the joke.
He's listening to that oxygen mask like it's a phone.
Yeah.
And typically, the booth isn't calling down to the running back.
No.
So what's going on there?
I don't know.
Maybe he was just seeing if he could get air in through his ear.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
I checked to make sure he wasn't concussed.
I know he had an injury.
It was his shoulder.
So for anybody, we're not being insensitive.
I don't think he was, I don't, I think he had,
all his faculties.
Well, in fairness, have you ever put one of those up to your ear?
Never.
So maybe he was just curious.
Never have.
Seeing if you could hear the ocean.
Never have.
This is a complete non-sequitur, but I want to do a list.
Oh.
I wanted to, you know, I was looking at the Babe Ruth home run bat that went for a million
dollars this week, right?
Was it a million or was it more?
Do you remember?
Did you see?
No, but what I'll do is...
You'll hit the Google machine while I'm talking about it.
So 500 home runs, I guess.
It goes for a million.
We'll see how I'm doing on that.
Also, we were talking about last week, you know, how much I want Wayland's Cadillac.
Yeah.
And that dude up in Canada has it.
Yeah, Bradwell.
He's not as a dude, you know.
No, he's a government dude.
Yeah.
Former.
Good dude.
Yeah.
I don't know anything about his politics, so we're not getting political on his spot.
1.08 million.
Okay.
So what reminded me is we did the Waylands Cadillac thing.
and you were sharp enough to when Brad Wall
was located on Twitter to at me
and me and Brad Wall had a nice little conversation
he of course is a former government dude
what are he doing the
parliament up there
Saskatchewan premiere
and a listener made the first link
so shout out yeah shout out to the listener
so Wayland's Lack is in Saskatchewan
to no avail
our pleadings to get the Cadillac
and possess it here in Virginia
Brad's not parting ways with it.
I don't blame him, but we had a good conversation.
I was thinking about other memorabilia
that I wonder where it is or what it's worth.
Since we're starting with cars,
not to start on too dark a note,
but where's OJ's Bronco?
You're a big double murder guy, I know.
Oh, God.
No, I'm not.
I'm really not, but I do love
a 1995 bronco.
You did have a black bronco
once upon a time. Nice con attempt.
I still have it.
Would you look up where OJ's Bronco is?
Sure. That'd be great.
Probably impounded some.
Do you think? I don't know.
You don't think anybody has that? They're selling his
memorabilia as we speak.
You read that article? Yeah.
Heisman. Yeah.
No, I think a guy told me.
Janet Jackson's braw.
I might want to lay out of this one
from the Super Bowl show, the halftime show.
She could probably auction that off for a lot of money.
By the way, was that a wardrobe malfunctioner?
Was that a stunt?
Steve Bartman's headphones?
Yeah.
Where could those be?
Probably in the possession of Steve Bartman.
Might have tossed him.
You think?
It was a bad night for him.
It was a really bad night for him.
You think he tossed him right when he left the stadium?
No, I think after some time
when he realized that his life had changed forever.
Probably like this is a bad memory.
I'm imagining him like just rushing out of the stadium
and just throwing him in the bushes somewhere
so he's not identified it as if the cameras
aren't going to be able to accurately depict the guy
who caught the ball.
I think after the World Series title,
if he'd have held onto those,
those could fetch north of 100K, couldn't they?
Yeah.
Okay.
How about the baseball that hit the bird, Randy Johnson's?
That could fetch $40.
You don't think more than that?
Well, it's like, hey, this ball here.
Murdered a bird.
Yeah.
At 100 miles an hour.
Right.
I do think that there would be some value there.
I think it's north of $400 or $40.
Holyfield's ear?
What did they do with Holyfield?
field's ear. There have been stories about this. Maybe we should have googled.com most of these things.
Well, no, I mean, I'm laying them up to you. Maybe you know something. I don't know. I don't.
I think they probably put it on ice in an effort to, uh, didn't they reattach? Like a John Bobbitt thing
with an ear. You remember John Bobbitt? You know, what happened to John Bobbitt? Was that his name?
I remember Lorena better. John Wayne Bobbitt, I believe, was his, what happened is or was his name?
So what happened for the listeners out there?
I don't quite remember.
You go ahead.
Lorena Bobbitt took his unit off of his person
and tossed it onto a highway, if I remember correctly.
And like a bag, probably a penis fish is what most people probably thought.
But evidently they reattached it.
They threw it on ice.
I wonder what happened to Holyfield's ear.
I think they did some reconstructive surgery with,
the piece.
Really?
Yeah.
Stick around for a robust corrections.
Bobby Knight's chair?
Now I'm on board.
You're on board now.
That's cool.
That's cool?
I would want to bring folks to the house and say,
you won't believe what this is.
You think it's cool for the establishment,
for coaches to threaten and hit
unpaid athletes with a chair?
Yeah, that chair didn't land.
on anyone.
But it was in the direction of athletes.
And for a guy...
Fans, I think.
I think it was away from the benches, bro.
He was on the bench.
He could have hit a player.
There were players on the court.
And he also choked the guy.
By the way, I do have a Bobby Knight basketball.
Oh, yeah, you do.
Yeah.
We should mention before this gets too far down the road,
it was Al Cowling's Bronco.
Technically, it wasn't OJ's Bronco.
It was Al's.
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
And it might still be in circulation.
here so we'll get to that at the end of the show yeah yeah not that i want to put a bit in i wonder what
it is doing you ever wonder what oj's bronco is doing right now i do uh especially because it was a beautiful
bronco al cowlings al callings al callings yeah his bronco his bronco i think it had blue interior
which is a a pimple on um on the madonna and by that i'm talking artwork
I got you.
A blue interior or red interior, vintage SUV is just a total waste.
Also, T.O. Sharpie was thrown in there. Cowboy Reed threw that one in there.
T.O. Sharpie, where's that? There's no way it's anywhere. Had to get discarded that day.
Agreed.
Joe Horn's cell phone could, you know, Joe Horn of the recent scandal.
by the way he was caught up in that
Lawrence Taylor's fire ladder
Talk to me about that
Lawrence Taylor used to
sneak out of his hotel
and the team hotel
and the dorms as well
to go do whatever Lawrence Taylor did
after dark and needed a fire ladder
to escape
to avoid detection
from the guy that sits by the elevator
with the bed check list
and he had this fire ladder that he would lower down
and I wonder where that is.
I think that could fetch a lot of money.
How about the Pete Rose betting slip
or a Pete Rose betting slip?
Right.
Any interest?
No.
No interest.
Fire ladder, yeah.
Okay.
How about Michael Jordan's
Barron's jersey?
Oh, you mean that t-shirt you wear every other day?
Yeah, that one.
There's nobody near this chair throw of Bobby Knights.
Yeah.
Nobody near it.
Not even close.
I mean, it gets close to photographers
on the baseline toward the end.
Wow.
So you don't care about the photographers,
the people that work hard.
You should know of all people
who does spotting
and has been in that business
that everybody matters on game day
and everybody's got a job to do.
I just think it's a little insensitive.
How about Barry Bond's pirate hat
that won't fit him anymore?
You liked that one.
Yeah, that's good.
There's no way Barry Bonds is fitting into one of the hats from when he was a pirate.
Agreed.
Sweat stains and all.
Did you have any?
Yeah.
I got a couple from cinema.
Okay.
Joe Boo Bumblehead.
Love it.
Gordy Howe jersey from Ferris Bueller's Day Off, worn by Alan Ruck as Cameron.
I wonder where that is.
Yeah.
I do.
It'll be somewhere.
Chances are it is somewhere.
And here's what I'm wondering.
Unless it was incinerated.
Is there somebody, are there multiple people who have sat on press rows and NBA arenas
who win LBJ does his dust deal?
Are they like trying to catch particles?
Particles in big games.
Put them in a baggie of the chalk.
And be like, hey, this was LeBron's chalk that he clapped up into the air.
I think it would be hard to collect any of it.
Agreed.
But I still,
I still, it would be very sad.
I still have,
um,
confetti from the Super Bowls.
I made sure to go out there after and get all of it I could.
Yep.
Easier to store than baby powder.
I have,
or chalk.
Yeah.
I have plenty of grass.
Not your kind of grass.
Yeah.
But Scott Stadium grass from games in the mid-90s.
And I,
I wrote on little baggies.
And it's not as cool in hindsight when it's like,
we beat number 21 Georgia Tech.
Yeah, I mean, that's a little bit like us rushing the field
against Florida State this year.
We just, we could have waited for Virginia Tech.
Nah, man, let the people have fun no matter what.
The people should have fun.
I think that's all I got.
If just in general, people I would want stuff from sports
across the spectrum.
Mostly not murderers.
Right.
Also not dudes who choke college athletes.
Richard Petty.
Richard Petty.
Give me some sunglasses or a hat or something.
He walked by me one time.
Ditto.
Yeah.
He had, I think, a grandson
go to the school I went to in Richmond
and came for something.
I feel like you told me that
because I went to a NASCAR race
and I walked by Richard Petty,
hat and all,
aura you know Rick James ora yeah this cat does have an aura yep I mean he was in the tunnel and it was like this was in Martinsville
lovely race yeah lovely race does a denim I guess this would play at a NASCAR race
denim would be a black denim jacket would not play I need to be that light blue it needs to be light blue
and it can't be like you know one you buy that's that's tarnished already it has to be like
authentically tarnished.
Okay.
And Canadian tuxedo can go a lot of different ways.
Yeah.
And I like to dabble there, but I think that that would have a hard time going in a NASCAR race.
Unless you were like Marty Smith and you were in that section with the trendy NASCAR guys,
I don't think in the infield that you're going to see a lot of black denim jackets.
Okay.
I want to give you the floor from him and talk about your fantasy finish.
Yeah.
crashing burn um thank you uh i know there are many fantasy bad beats out there including ones that
involved this play but uh i'm a one league fantasy guy pulled into two this year because of you yeah
and i'm going to get back to one next year you're going to not be in our league or you're going
to the way around i had a lot of fun that's great and leagues are great when you can get everybody in
one room your buddies local uh it was it was it was
It was a wonderful afternoon at Boylan Heights, a local establishment.
Shout out to Boilin Heights.
But as it turns out, because Drew Breeze had such a great evening on Monday night,
I would have won a league if not for what turned out to be that San Francisco,
Atlanta lateral at the end of the game, which gave the Palkins whatever, 10 point win
instead of a...
whatever it's going to be
because, I'll get to it here,
Rahim Mostert
was the last person
to possess the ball
on those laterals
and threw it all the way across the field.
That is so fucked up.
And instead of the ball just rolling out of bounds
or a San Francisco player pouncing on it,
our guy, Alamede Zakias,
scooped, scored,
and it's ruled a fumble by Mostert
minus two points,
I lose by nine tenths.
And that's why fantasy football
football is the absolute worst, despite how much fun we had with it this year.
I had a lot of fun.
Which is shocking because you never really went to the website.
That was the joke.
Oh, got it.
I did not spend a lot of time on the website, but the draft was fun.
Yeah.
Sorry, I've been dealing with it.
Like I've been dealing with a little bit of what you had the last 88 days.
We need to have like a zero day since this studio has been.
Has had germs in it.
You know what's great about that fantasy draft though is every dude in there has an excuse to go drink on a day.
You're probably not going to get the past to go drink on.
Yeah.
The other guys are doing it.
It's for a league.
Yeah.
I had, I drank water.
Yeah, you drank water.
I had a couple beers.
Speaking of Drew Breeze and having a great night, Monday night was interesting.
Firstly, though, one of your favorites, Booger had a Telestrator thing.
Yeah.
I hadn't seen one in a while.
Did anybody see this screen grab of Boogers rendering up?
A spaceship?
What he's doing here is he's, it looks like he's describing a split safety look and the void in the zone there.
And he ends up drawing.
what looks to be a potato and two cherry tomatoes.
Yeah.
Or a penis.
That would be a chode.
You ever use that word on a podcast?
Never thought I would.
But Booger drew a chode on Monday night in the middle of a split safety zone.
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Can I talk about Drew Breeze now?
Yep.
You'd be excited for me to get to it.
Monday was cool, though.
Condolences to your fantasy team.
Yeah, thanks.
But Monday was fun.
I mean, for a game that was pretty,
meaningless otherwise to have that kind of atmosphere.
I mean, it's a team that's out of it in the Colts,
visiting a team that you wondered if they were going to have
a little bit of a letdown like, you know,
San Francisco did coming off that slug fest.
They did not look fatigued.
They did not look like they were let down.
Of course, they had a lot to play for.
And they had, of course, Drew Breezes' records to play for
and home field advantage to be gunning for a big playoff.
race for them. Drew came into the game needing three passing touchdowns on Monday Day football to
break Peyton's record of 539. Only Sammy Baugh has had the yardage touchdowns and completion
percentage simultaneously. And you can add completions in total to that list with Drew now. By the way,
he got it pretty easily. And John Coon of the Packers fullback fame had this to say. This was
was one of the more interesting loaded reactions.
Congratulations to Drew Breeze on being the NFL all-time passing TD leader,
hardest working player I've ever seen proof that you do actually get out
what you put into things.
Wow.
Was that a subliminal?
Do you take this as a subliminal or just oversight?
In reference to former teammates?
Yeah.
I think it's just a nice compliment.
I think it was too.
You'd have to really dislike the guy you lined up behind for a while to do that intentionally.
I think we get into this thing now where really good players get ironically easily offended and slighted.
I can't stand it.
You know, like, I used to walk around all the time in Philly.
And when people would ask me about Aaron Donald, I say he's the best defensive player in the game,
his best defensive tackle in the game.
Blatcher Cox never got offended.
you know they're one A and one B but you know
Aaron's been the most dominant
there's nothing wrong
with being
fucking awesome at something
and there be better players than you
and that's what we've gotten into in pro sports
is everything is a slight
I was typing that I thought the other night
that T.J. Watt deserved to be
in the conversation for Deven's Player Year
although I think it's Gilmore
and I think it's making
of Fitzpatrick before it would be TJ,
but I said the caveat is I'm talking about front seven guys.
And I literally had to think about
who I might be offending before sending that tweet.
Luckily, it was nobody sensitive.
Cam Jordan's had a tremendous year.
Shaq Barrett's had a tremendous year,
but no guys had more of a tremendous year
on a unit that seems to be tied into directly
the way he's playing and carrying a team
the way that Pittsburgh has.
So I just think we've gotten
This, that's my sensitivity rant.
It's over.
John Coon also says,
player I've ever seen.
I think it lands differently if he had said,
a player I've ever played with.
That's why you're here.
You know,
I would have never picked up on that.
But I think at the same time,
we do have an issue with sensitivity and pro sports now.
Some of the best players are the most sensitive.
So,
I want to do a quarterback draft with you.
We're going to do a Friday.
Which will include Drew Brees,
and I hope you can handle
where you're going to put him?
Maybe offending a player or two.
Yeah. Well, I might.
More than anything,
it's something I don't take lightly,
you know, ranking these quarterbacks.
Yeah.
It's why I got in the biz
to do quarterback rankings.
So we'll do it Friday.
But again, he needed three passing touchdowns
on Monday to break Peyton's record.
He did it with ease.
There's 29 of 30.
If you're on the other end of that,
and I've been on one or two of those games,
nothing like that, obviously,
because it turned out to be a record.
That's a single game record for completion percentage.
I think it was 96%.
You're like, what do I do?
I mean, as a rusher, the ball's gone.
He's carving you up.
They're playing that song.
Here we come to get a con.
You know that song?
They play it every time they score a touchdown.
Oh, when the Saints.
Yeah, no, they play.
they play they're more into they do the marching in they do the uh the little john there no that's
not little john that's uh that's a that's yin yang twins i'm not going to make that mistake twice uh in a
year but yeah they they play that you know drew's set in records you're like there's nothing i can
do to to defend this guy and um the colts look hapless michael thomas of course had
11 catches well he's got 11 catches to go uh before he passes that Marvin harrison
single season record for receptions.
That would be great.
I think he's going to do it
maybe this Sunday the way it's going.
I think he deserves it.
He's one of the hardest working guys.
He's a big receiver.
It's fun to watch him play
and use that big body in length.
You know, Drew just,
you go into the season and you're like,
who is Drew throwing to
other than Michael Thomas
and Kamara underneath?
Well, he hit nine different guys
for 307 yards last night.
He has been that distributed
Peter, his entire career.
He's more Peyton than Brady.
He does have some limitations in arm strength and whatnot,
but he always knows where to go with the football.
And there's nobody that works harder.
I mean, to John Coon's point,
Reggie Bush, a former teammate of Drew's.
And by the way, they had all the Saints back last night.
You see that from the Super Bowl run.
Everybody looks really young.
They're living right.
They haven't even...
Pierre Thomas, I thought he was like a college kid.
But Reggie Bush was taping Drew Breeze in the indoor on a Saturday,
going through his past sets, I guess you would call it, for a quarterback.
You know, his dropbacks, like different, you know, three steps, seven step,
whatever, his footwork in the pocket.
And there's nobody in the indoor.
And a lot of times guys that do extra work after,
and I'm doing with the quotes for those of you listening,
are actually just
they're doing something with it.
They're angling for somebody to see them.
When I hear about Drew Breeze,
the first thing I hear about is his obsession with football
and his work ethic and his perfectionism.
I believe it.
I believe that, and Reggie is in there narrating this,
he's just marveling from a corner of the indoor.
I've never seen anything like that.
A guy after walked through an hour and a half later on a Saturday,
let alone a Hall of Famer.
He wanted this record bad,
but that's probably just a glimpse
into his weekly routine.
So, you know, we've got two records,
his record in play,
and you've also got the Mike Thomas record,
but, and by the way,
Bougar last night said that Mike Thomas
needs to change his Twitter handle to,
and I wrote this down,
best hands in the game.
So I think Mike Thomas might watch the theory,
TV copy and then change Can't Guard Mike to best hands in the game.
Bougar also told me when we had a field level angle that this is neat because it's a field
level angle and different than what we normally see.
I can't.
I don't hate Bougar at all.
It's a tough job.
Again, the biggest Trojan horse in sports is being the color analyst who's just fucking
holding on for dear life knowing you're getting ripped on Twitter.com and across America.
I also think that Twitter's just a cesspool for criticism
and most people in their living rooms
I wonder if they actually hate Bougar without logging on.
How much bias do you have
when you open your timeline and read the room?
There's been some times where I've liked things that Bougar said.
We're not going to go too far down the Bougar road.
But again, last night, I was marveling at this guy.
He's 81% completion going in the last night against zone coverage.
Teams keep doing it,
And part of it is you don't want, you don't want to have to double Mike, you know, Mike or best hands in the game.
Best hands of the game.
Can't guard Mike.
You don't want to double him.
You don't want him running free.
But it certainly looks like he's throwing to just wide open guys on the regular when he sees zone.
He always knows where to go.
As soon as they threw that graphic up, he hit somebody for a 20 yard touchdown.
I think that's what Bougar was describing with his rendition of the dudes from Superbad, drawing dick.
He still moves great.
I mean, did you see that pressure they brought with 31 on the edge?
And this really jumps out of me because when you're an unblocked player and you are a blitzer or an edge rusher on the ball side of a quarterback, one of the hardest things to do, they always say, upfield shoulder, upfield shoulder.
That's the hardest thing to do because you're running full speed at a target that's looking this way but can definitely see you.
the good ones can and can evade you
because if you go too high on that shoulder,
he's just going to duck underneath.
Russell Wilson does a great job of that.
He also does a great job of spinning out of the back of the pocket
if you're too tight on him.
And Breeze at 41 years old is still moving really well in the pocket.
Him and Brady have redefined what it means to be mobile as quarterbacks.
And I've just never, it never ceases to amaze me how a guy that old.
And part of it might be that he's just,
been short. He's been on his toes for 20 years
throwing a football. His vision has to be
crazy. He looks downfield
and he's making throws,
evading the rush. Good quarterbacks
don't have to look at the rush.
It's incredible. He's listed at six feet.
He's always looking up
and over his line. He's on his toes when he
releases the ball. It's unbelievable.
And then again on that touchdown
on the OPI, sorry.
Oh, that would have. Yeah.
I would have won't want it.
Yeah, the touchdown in the OPI
which would have, I think, tied the record
and everybody, it was a fandom call.
I think that would have said it.
He used his feet really well on that one too.
The question is, are they going to do a graphic
every time Tom passes him and he passes?
I don't think we have to worry about that.
No offense to Tom, but the way things are going up in New England,
Drew looks like he can play another four years in this system.
He's got a Mike Tom, he's got Alvin Kamari,
he's got, you know, the play calling that he has.
I mean, so.
Right.
I don't think we're going to have an, I don't, do you think Brady passes him again?
No.
I don't think so either.
I mean, we're talking about passing touchdowns and Tom throws it to Jules or James White.
Yeah.
Both are great, but they're not that.
It's not Mike Thomas and Kamara.
They're not that red zone threat like Thomas is.
Exactly.
So I don't think we're going to have to worry about the graphic, but what a long strange run it's been for Drew Breed.
You think about Drew Breed's.
And before looking back at this, you're like, this guy who's just had it good, his entire career.
He's been great the entire time.
His team's been great.
The Saints, since Hurricane Katrina have been dominant, right, since they were, you know, since that magical game, I think it was on Monday night or Sunday night or they haven't looked back.
Well, it's been a long run, and people forget about the Chargers.
I'm certain that a lot of young people watching that game don't remember the team.
the team he was on first in San Diego.
Not just that, but the 2011 draft class.
Vic, Breeze, Quincy Carter, Tuyasasopo,
Winky, Rosenfels, Palmer, McMahon,
Feeley, Booty, and Heipel.
McMahon?
Yeah, that was on the list.
I don't know who that is.
Okay.
Do you have a guess?
How many of these guys can you get their,
college is correct. That's actually what I was doing in my head. You're going to do it. Okay, Vic.
Tech. Breeze? Purdue. Quincy Carter.
Georgia. Tuiasaopo. Washington. Winky.
Florida State. Rosenfels. Iowa State. Good job. Jesse Palmer. Florida. McMahon. Who is McMahon? I don't know.
I don't even know who he is. The tweet came from actually, ironically,
Sage Rosenfeld's who's a great Twitter follow and a really good dude who was being
he said you know quarterbacks are a lot like a box of chocolates look at this draft class
you know we you don't know what's going to be what so is there anybody else on the list
uh Philly oh I don't know where he went to school okay uh booty LSU yeah and Hyple
Oklahoma I'll say McMahon went to
A&M and I don't know who
I'm gonna say BYU
Okay, I'll look it up.
Maybe he's related to Jim McMahon.
But Breeze is part of that class
that was largely pretty poor.
You know, passed up on early,
obviously, because Mike Vic was the thing
and Drew was six foot.
And of course, Vic reinvented the way
the positions played.
So although you could say
you'd rather have Breeze than Vic,
Vic has done a lot historically for the league.
Breeze is blown off by San Diego largely.
He was an afterthought.
I mean, they drafted him.
He stepped in for Flutty when Flutty was injured,
and then Flutie took his job again.
Imagine Drew Breeze,
the guy who just broke all those records
at one point getting bench for Doug Flutty.
And then Philip Rivers,
who has been a Hall of Famer in his own right,
is the guy.
And they let him walk.
He goes to free agency.
Here's the most interesting part.
Miami almost picks him up.
Nick Saban led Miami Dolphins.
He fails a physical there.
Physical is in the NFL.
You can kind of, if you want to fail it, you can fail it.
If you want to pass it, you can pass it.
So I don't know if there was like a motivation with Saban.
Just fail him.
We don't want him.
Or if it was, they wanted him, but they weren't confident in the shoulder.
But they ended up with, I think, was Culpepper.
And, you know, it's funny me to think,
think Sabin and Bill are so tight.
What if they had this master plan all along to protect Brady and the Pats,
not having another Hall of Famer in division?
There's no fucking way.
That's true, but it'd be fun to think about.
You know, I don't know what that division looks like if it's Brady Embrys.
One of the biggest things for the Pats has been their security within that division.
And so it's interesting.
You talk about a butterfly effect, Ashton Coucher style.
what could happen.
How would it look differently?
But his career,
it's not just the fact that he was in San Diego
and, you know,
it's passed up and ends up in New Orleans.
It's the fact that he's been seven and nine five times
in a run since 2006 in New Orleans.
The playoffs were less automatic than I realize,
and that plays into like,
I always thought there was this blue blood team
the last 10, 15 years.
they haven't been.
Even with him putting up
outer space numbers.
I think a lot of it, and the irony
here is after last night he said,
I wouldn't be here without Sean Payton. Well,
that's true, but I'm not sure
you wouldn't be even better if Sean
relinquished some of that institutional control.
I don't know who was picking all those
coordinators on defense,
but they were bad for a long stretch.
And it's not just breeze
that didn't make the playoffs.
I mean, Rivers hasn't made it seven times.
Brady, amazingly, and Manning, one and two times, respectively, that they weren't in the playoffs,
which has to do with Tom, not just his greatness, but that division.
With Manning, I think it's just remarkable as well.
Eli, 10 times.
Breeze, six times with the Saints and three with the Chargers, but you can't really count the Chargers.
I won't.
Rogers, three times and both of the last two years.
Rathletzberger five times.
So that's an interesting way to look at quarterbacks, is how often you can be.
and they will their teams with regularity
over a decade plus span into the playoffs.
That puts Drew Breeze right in the middle of that crop
of quarterbacks who are kind of going away right now,
right in the middle.
And I think some people would,
most people would say Brady or Manning or the goats,
and then after that you have maybe Breeze
and some other players.
But the irony there is if he didn't have Peyton,
sure he wouldn't be the same,
but if Peyton wasn't controlling the defense
in the decision making as far as who he's hiring,
to control the defense.
I think they'd be a lot better off.
Saints' defenses over his span
and in New Orleans and I mean Breeze,
27th in yards, if you netted all that,
and 25th in points per game since 2006.
In four out of the five of the seven-win seasons,
they've been 30th or worse in yards per game.
So like, even the Super Bowl year,
they were bottom 10 in defense.
2007 is the only outlier at 7 and 9.
They weren't in the 30s,
and there's only three teams in the 30s
defensively.
So all things considered,
I mean, it's been, it's been, yeah.
It's wild.
That's wild.
It is wild.
With the 18th pick in the fifth round,
149 overall,
the Detroit line selected Mike McMahon,
quarterback out of Rutgers.
Ruckers, fuck.
They have a Mormon contingency of Rutgers.
Right.
Eight picks after Billy Baber,
tied in Virginia.
Wow.
Yeah, I was just talking about.
We're talking about Billy Baber on Sunday, actually, coincidentally.
Billy Baber Pride of Western Alabama High School.
That's right.
Was he bigger than the tight ends of my generation at UVA?
Bigger than Tom Sannie?
Bigger how?
Bigger and stature.
Same size, comparable?
Literal size?
Yeah.
Faber 6-4-260.
I think he was just a touch bigger.
He wasn't as big as I remember because those guys in that era,
they were all like giants to me no matter who they were
because I was a kid.
So there's a Billy Baber tangent.
So I have to wonder, and I don't know,
I'm no psychologist, but I'm looking at Breeze,
and he's this guy who's always taking the high road,
never complaining, never talk shit about anybody.
But I know internally as a competitor,
somebody that driven can't possibly think
that Tom Brady is better than them.
Even though I'm not saying he's better,
I'm not making it,
I think Brady's the goat
because of the throws he can make
and the championships and all that.
But you've got to wonder if he's looking at Brady up north and he's like,
well, this guy's always had continuity, defenses for the most part,
you know, stable coaching staff, more stable at least defensively
than what he's had in New Orleans.
You wonder if looking at Sean Payton,
as good as he's been as an offensive play caller,
well, everything that,
everything that Bill does is as good as Sean Payton does
as an offensive play caller.
Like, so exhaustively,
the way they do that program
is to that standard that Sean does offense.
I think, I wonder sometimes if Drew's like,
damn, dude, I'm the goat, bro.
I got all these records.
I don't know if there's a comp in another sport where a guy,
you know, somebody that scored more than Jordan
but didn't have the championships,
I don't think there is because I think when you look at NBA scoring
and goes Kareem.
Carl Malone actually score more.
Maybe Carl Malone would be one,
but there's no real comp in another sport
because these are quarterbacks,
and there's a big rift in how we evaluate quarterbacks.
Some people are like QB wins only.
Some people are just, you know, into the stats.
Well, and as you've said, Drew and the Saints
have had to deal with runs by the Falcons,
Panthers, and Bucks, and then FC South throughout this career.
Exactly.
It's amazing how many times they not only didn't make the playoffs,
didn't win the division, but also went seven and nine.
you know, if you go through his career, it's been funny.
You know, there's 7 to 9 in 2007, 2008 they make the playoffs,
but he has a historic year.
2009, that's a Super Bowl year.
What if it's not for that onside kick?
I mean, holy shit.
If we're sitting here and Drew Brees doesn't have a championship yet,
I'm rooting for him anyways.
2010, 4136, they lost in the Beast Quake game.
That was the game that, uh, sorry about that, Drew.
We, yeah, we gave you Seattle that week.
You could have been playing us.
You would have carved us up like a Thanksgiving turkey,
but instead you got Marshall Lynch running over your whole defense at,
what is it?
Quest.
What do we call that up there?
Seattle?
Century Link?
Century Link.
Never mind.
2011 they lost in the division,
divisional playoffs to the Niners.
I barely remember that game.
12, they go 7 to 9, 13.
they lose the Super Bowl champion
Seahawks in the divisional round
14's a bad year
15, 16, 7 to 9
here's the craziest thing about the Saints
that will really blow you away.
The last three years, including this year,
are by far their most consistent and best years.
There has not been a more consistent run by them.
And a lot of it has to do with the defense
getting under control and being able to play complimentary football
and not having to win every game 4136.
but in 17 you got the Minnesota miracle 18 you have the Rams robbery
the scariest thing for this league as old as he is
is that he looks pretty damn good him and Sean look like they're still clicking
you've got a number one wide out you've got Kamara and this is the best
three-year stretches of team they've had I don't know how much longer he can do this
I know last year at the end of the year they were wondering what was wrong with his arm
you know four out of the last five games last year you look at his yardage total passing it was
200 yards a game and that's a it's an alarm for him it's funny you wonder if this thumb thing
gave him the juice he needed from an arm standpoint late in the season people wondered that coming
out but if they win a Super Bowl this year they'll have overcome what they did in 17 with
Minnesota, they'll have overcome last year's call, they'll have overcome a thumb surgery,
being lights out with a backup, and it will be one of the most impressive runs I've ever seen
by a team because it takes so much to get back off the mat if you lose a Super Bowl or if you
lose a big game. And the NFC championship was as bad a loss as I've seen deep in the playoffs
in recent history. And for a guy who's waiting a decade, the Minnesota miracle doesn't feel
great either. I'm sure that Drew part of him as a younger player the last 10 years he said I'd really
love to have my defining moment where I can really soak it in more and I think it would be a beautiful,
beautiful thing for that city, for him, for that group, if they can finish on top. Of all the teams
I'm kind of pulling for in the playoffs, they're one of them. What's his career long throw, you think?
after catch
Yeah, total
83 yards to
No, I'll go
Reggie Bush 76 yards
98 yards to Brandon Cooks
in 2016
Wow
Versus whom?
Longest in Saints history
You don't know
Well versus whom is
An easy question to answer
Oakland Raiders
Don't remember it
Marcus Colson was in the house
I said Marcus Colson
caught a lot of touchdown
on pass from him. I saw
a stat today and I could have
misread it that he called 72.
That's a lot.
Or no, it was maybe 72 players
and he had the most touch.
Clear that up for me, will you?
I'll do my best.
Another thing is
72 tuds.
72 tuds. Pretty impressive.
I wanted to do a segment that would be more fun.
Brands and football players.
I think some of these ideas are terrific that we came up with.
or they don't have to be football players.
They can be any athlete.
What our job is to do is to figure out which athlete
would be the best marriage for a brand or a product.
Like for instance, I think Philip Rivers,
he should have got a Disney World commercial yesterday.
The commercial would be simple.
You load up his entire family on a roller coaster
and everybody's pissed off.
They're like,
when do we get to use the roller coaster?
The joke, of course, is he has a lot of children.
But I think that would be a slam dunk
from a marketing perspective.
Did you have any?
Yeah, I have a bunch.
You have a bunch?
Yeah.
You want to go one in one?
Okay.
Southwest Airlines want to get away.
Odell Beckham.
Yes.
And he just always wants out.
He does one out.
Okay.
Mine are going to be quick.
Okay.
Let's do,
a new Apple commercial about parental control settings for your kids' devices,
Antonio Brown.
Just shut that shit.
Antonio Brown, AB's using Twitter?
New setting.
Probably not a new setting at all.
My kid is three.
My other kid is one.
They don't need cell phones yet.
So I'll cross that bridge when it come to it.
I like it.
Yeah.
Nike.
They say,
Just Do it?
I got James Winston.
I feel like in his head,
He's just, just do it, man.
He's just doing it.
His brain is like, should I throw this?
Throw it.
Just do it, man.
Just do it.
Yeah.
That's a great one.
Thank you.
I think George Kittle would be a great Harley Davidson pitch man.
Yeah, I think that's perfect.
Okay.
That's spot on.
I got a lot, Chris, here.
Yeah, just fire them.
Rollades.
How do you spell relief?
That's Sean Doolittle.
Oh, I like that.
John Dool, a friend of the program.
Okay, I like this one.
World Series champ.
Verizon.
Can you hear me now?
Oh, I'm doing Verizon.
Okay, who's yours?
Go ahead.
Mine has to do with the tagline,
can you hear me now?
And it's,
and it's Dak Prescott from,
we want to kick,
we want to kick,
we defer.
That's amazing.
It would have to be very quick.
People are going to make money off this shit.
Oh,
better get it into production now
because people are going to forget
about that coin toss pretty quickly.
No, I guess.
All I'm saying is people are going to
rich off this and we don't get a cut.
And there are,
all of this is, is, is intellectual,
this is all intellectual property that we've trademarked.
Your college coach did elect to kick off twice on a couple of occasions, I believe.
I'll grow.
Yes.
Our defense was that good.
And so,
I get when the official.
And so you,
you got to,
you got to make clear that you're deferring.
Bill Belichick, eBay.
Hear me out.
Not just the repurposed goods,
a lot of players that he brings.
brings out the best in.
Also, he might,
he might buy and sell electronics.
Hmm.
Yeah.
While wearing a hoodie.
You got it.
The food on it.
Sprite, obey your thirst.
I googled thirstiest athlete.
Joel Embed.
Joel is not the thirstiest athlete.
Oh, there he is.
Can't offend.
Airbnb?
No, it's not true.
There's just simply more thirsty athletes.
Okay.
Okay.
Airbnb belong anywhere.
Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Oh, I was going to say Michael Bennett for Airbnb
because he's been on a bunch of teams lately.
I was going to say maybe Zillow.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's good.
Michael Bennett has a beautiful family.
He's hilarious.
I think he'd be great in a Zillow commercial.
Like, need a pass rusher?
I like it.
Yeah.
KFC, finger-licking good,
James Winston.
slam dunk. He eats
ws. Yes, he does eat ws. I like that one
a lot. Sorry, I was looking for my next one.
I missed a jewel there.
All right, so how about
maybe a big laugh we can put in?
No, a big laugh.
Okay. Lego.
How about Legos?
Ben Rathlisberger.
Just somebody just putting him back together.
Trying to figure out how to put him back together.
Just kids like, how do we put Big Ben back together?
Oh, here's his walking boot.
Yeah.
Oh, is this place haunted?
This is hilarious.
Okay, so Dr. Fax is taking a nap on the couch, on the couch in there.
Dr. Fax, why don't you come out here?
He doesn't have a mic, so.
Dr. Fax is using my office to take a nap right now.
Friend of the program, Nate Collins.
Bass Pro Shops.
Duck Hodges.
Oh, that's great.
His name is Duck Hodges.
I love that.
Yeah, that works.
Dr. Fax
What about Fax?
What's that for?
What?
Oh yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so last week
last week he thought the lions
were going to beat the Vikings.
I appreciate that.
It's unclear to me whether Nate knows
that we're doing a pod right now or not.
Well, he's going to be sitting.
He's just sitting in the back.
He doesn't have a microphone,
so anything he says I'm going to have to repeat.
That's a sick track suit deal.
You like it?
Yeah.
I just got it.
Yeah, he just got it.
his track suit.
One good thing happened
that,
one good thing
that happened
on my birthday.
Yes.
Happy birthday
to Nate Collins,
who by the way
is doing the,
I had a birthday thing
on the pod.
Allstate,
you're in good hands
with Allstate.
Yeah.
So I went a different way here.
Force fumbles.
Yeah.
You know,
a guy who forces
a bunch of fumbles
is going to be
the spokesperson.
Yeah.
Guess who the all-time
leader in forced fumbles is?
They started
keeping that in about 93.
So it's recent,
recent folks.
John Abraham.
Robert Mathis.
Robert Mathis, yes.
But my spokesperson is the number two guy.
Jalise Peppers.
Yeah.
With 52.
T. Sizzle is 11th.
Yeah.
And active chiefs with 37.
How many force fumbles you have in your career?
Me?
Yep.
Man, like 17, 16.
You're tied for 134 with 15.
15.
I was right on.
You're ahead of.
Is Peanut Tillman on that?
Well, I'm surely he is, but I only took notes on a few.
Okay.
You're ahead of Philip Daniels.
Okay, that's good.
He was my D-Line coach.
That's why I mentioned it.
You know, brain's always working.
You're ahead of Rob Nikovic.
Nice.
Good.
My friend.
Marcelus Wiley.
TV guy.
Hugh Douglas.
Good player.
Troy Palomalu.
Great player.
Bounty, the quicker picker-upper.
My man freaking Alamede Zakias,
which cost me the fantasy game.
I thought you were going to do Greg Williams.
And I was like,
yeah you know why that's good yeah that's uh um so Nate's suggestion evidently he's
been listening to the pod and not sleeping uh he yelled mr potato head would be perfect for
ben rothosberger because you have to put him back together hmm yeah or operation
remember that game when we were kids yeah fucking young millennials won't remember that
how about Walmart you just get the entire Cincinnati um
front office in there because they don't pay.
The opposite would be a visa commercial with Jerry Jones.
Just buying everything.
Whatever you like.
Mike Thomas, 7-Eleven always open.
Nice.
Verizon Wireless, hear me out here.
Carson Wentz.
He's dealing with a bunch of dropped calls.
Yeah?
Drop balls.
I thought he said drop balls.
No, I said drop calls.
That's good.
Yeah.
That's good.
I'm sure he would sign up for that in a heartbeat.
He throw his teammates under the bus.
He probably won't do that, though.
Oh, I just feel like Ryan Tannahill is a Rochester big and tall looking ass, dude.
In like a little quarter-zip polo sweater, smiling with a cup of coffee and like a younger woman.
You know those ads.
I'm actually not terribly familiar.
Oh, you don't do Rochester Big and Tall.
That wasn't a joke about big people and small people.
Yeah.
You don't need big sizes.
No, I need tall sizes.
You get on down to Rochester Big and Tall.
And then maybe my favorite one, Jason Garrett,
for the clap-on, clap-off lights.
Very nice.
You remember those, Nate, Dr. Fax?
Yeah, that was the commercial.
Did you have any more?
Skittles taste the rainbow, not Beast Mode, James, again, because he tasted his fingers.
Just anything where somebody's eating, you just put James in there.
Or anything to do with crabs.
Or anything to do with crabs.
That's right.
And that can go a lot of different ways.
I don't see a lot of crab commercials on TV.
Crabs are something that you don't market for whatever reason.
I don't think you need to, like, crabs, it's interesting.
You don't market crabs.
Or old bay, old spice?
No, old bay.
But have you ever seen an old bay commercial?
I haven't.
Because people that like crabs are going to eat crabs regardless.
They're not going to watch it.
It's also very regional, right?
Maryland is close to us.
Maryland is close to us.
Let's do the quick hitters real quick.
I better be fast.
We're going to do a minute again.
Yep.
You'll only see quick hits here on this pod.
T-sizzle.
the jack rabbit. Who helps more?
I think Terrell Suggs
is, it sounds like he's not the same
rusher he was even in recent years. I think he's,
the word is he's a little heavier.
So he sounds like more of a first and second down guy.
Curious to me that Kansas City signing, I thought initially
they might be shielding him from Baltimore,
but they're ahead in the waiver order anyways.
The only teams that put in a claim were New Orleans, San Francisco,
Seattle and Kansas City, I mean Baltimore was nowhere.
to be found. But didn't need to because Baltimore was at the end. Yeah, Baltimore's at the end.
So you wonder if they would have taken a stab at him or just assume that he brought...
It would cost more if you put in the waiver, so just let him go in the sign of him. I don't think
they wanted him back is what I'm saying. Okay. And I think Jenkins can come in and help right away.
I think he's been better than people remember his worst moments. When you're on the Giants this year and
you're on a bad team, people forget the good moments and remember the bad moments. Mike Evans game,
the business decision against Jarwin.
Some notable scrap signings late in the year, James Harrison,
New England's Super Bowl run in 17 that they lost to us.
J.J.J. Anderson last year.
He went for 123.
Boop.
And then 2014, Lagarenda, November 20th.
If you were a GM, would you cut somebody for because of a tweet?
Quick hitters.
If I was a GM, when I cut somebody over a tweet,
depending on the tweet, yes.
Rams lose to the Cowboys, 424.21.
How do you fix the Rams?
Well, it's a longer term,
for them. I worry, I'm not saying they will, I worry that they're going to keep bumping their head on
Jerigoff's ceiling. I think that what's been proven out over time is that McVeigh has done a
wonderful job because everything, all his success is predicated on open receivers. And I think what
they have to do in the future is decide on whether or not you're going to stick to the long
breaking, you know, deep over type routes, the play action pass stuff where you sit and you need
protection, which means they need to build their own lineup, or they get more guys and get
open on quick passes and intermediate stuff. They're going to have to address the offense
line problem, you know, free agency. But at the end of the day, if you're going to do the longer
developing routes, you have to have golf not throwing into tight windows. That's what it's all
about. His first 14 weeks, he threw into tight windows 11% of the time. That's first in the
league. So McVeigh was doing the best he could. He's not throwing in tight coverage a lot.
on Sunday threw into tight coverage on 20% of his throws.
So we'll see what happens.
The biggest defensive concern for the pet.
Hut, hot!
Oh, nice.
Outside runs.
Sunday we saw a little bit of it.
5.1 yards per carry on Sunday for the Bengals.
And five runs of 10 yards or more.
The Bengals went 15 for 88 yards on outside runs.
A lot of toss plays, a lot of miss tackles for the Patriots.
It was very on New England-like.
but that's 5.9 per on outside runs.
So since week eight, some interesting numbers,
the home game against Cleveland,
everybody remembers that sounds like a decade ago,
they were averaging 5.4 yards allowed on outside runs.
That's eighth most in the league.
That's the Pats, bottom third, and that's that.
They're 12th on inside runs since that point,
and also since week eight, 78 rushes,
78 rushing yards per game in the first half.
That's where you can not factor in having a lead
or anything like that.
78 yards per game given up in the first
half rushing that's the most in the NFL
5.1 yards per carry that's the most
in the first half since that point as well
so there's been a problem since week A for them
and outside run is where it starts
Talk to me about Carson Wentz and Greg Ward
Hut-Hut! It's a classic connection
Carson Wentz to Greg Ward iconic
I don't think
I think it's safe to say and we look back at this
that over the last decade
there's never been a more inexperienced
crop of receivers taking the field this late in the year.
He came into this game
with an unprecedented,
unprecedentedly inexperienced group of receivers.
Greg Ward being probably the one with the most upside.
He caught the game winner.
He's also the only receiver to catch a ball
from Carson Wentz on Sunday.
And that's the thing.
I don't know how unprecedented that is,
but it's probably pretty damn.
unprecedented or relatively rare.
Carson's had a bad year according to some.
3,500 yards, 25 touchdowns, 7 interceptions.
He hasn't been a top 10 guy,
but let's just, can we settle at least now on the fact
that the Eagles have a lot of problems
and one is not Carson Wentz?
Why don't you ask one of the best players on team, Brandon Brooks?
He had a nice little clip.
I'm experimenting with Sounders.
Wow.
Jarvis Landry.
Hut, hut.
Yeah, he was screaming,
come get me at the
at the Cardinal's
sideline. What's funny to me is not just that he was
screaming, come get me. He was
screaming, come get me at
another sub-500
team. Desert
weather though, a lot better
than Cleveland, and they seem to be less
dysfunctional, but it doesn't seem like
Odell or Jarvis are being
discriminant about who they're telling to come get
them. It's like spam now.
It's like, fuck it.
Whoever's inbox this ends up in,
whatever. I'll go anywhere.
And that's
funny.
Urban Meyer.
Hut-Hut!
Yeah, so you don't have to be in the owner's box
to support your former players.
This was a leverage move
in being at the game in Washington.
And I wonder if poor Dwayne Haskins
and, well, McLaurin
as well, did I say that correctly?
Correct.
Really thought he was there just to see them.
because I think he was there to leverage his appearance against the Cowboys.
I think the only job that intrigues him enough to come out of retirement, so to speak.
It's a lot like the Jimmy Johnson thing with Fox in the early 90s.
When they brought him on as a broadcaster, they knew it was temporary.
I think Fox knows the same thing now.
And I think I don't think he's a house cat.
I don't think he ends up in Washington.
I think the only job that would intrigue him would be in Dallas.
Urban Myers middle name is Frank.
Interesting.
Which I didn't know.
Interesting middle name.
Josh Gordon.
Hut.
So here's the big misconception, and we talked about it with Cliff, but, you know, players
are not, you know, guys who are in the program are failing for other stuff as well.
It's not just bud over and over again.
This guy's not just smoking and failing over and over again.
There's a lot more at play than just weed here.
I know that for a fact.
and I'm not going to air his laundry out there,
but this guy's had a long history of addiction.
And I think one of the biggest issues we have is
changing the standard for what's doing well.
Signing with an NFL team does not mean you're doing well.
Playing on the field does not mean you're doing well.
And fans and coaches and, you know,
everybody that's watching a Josh Gordon thing unfold,
stop saying when he signed somewhere
that you're so fucking happy for him
because he looks like he's in a good place.
You can play football and your life can be in shambles.
And it's obvious that this kid's life has been in shambles for some time.
And if another team signs him,
you're basically saying,
I don't give a shit about the person.
The person needs to get better, not the football player.
Or not to sign him with the understanding that.
They have to immediately, like, put them in some time.
But they can't sign.
Yeah, well, they can't play him, though.
So Nate says they have to sign him with the immediate, you know,
intention of putting him in a program.
Or be like, hey, if you want this, you have to do.
Fundamentally, if you're going to put somebody in a program so that he can become a football player, you're not getting it done.
The National Football League Players Association.
Hutt.
Boy, you hate to see it.
The NFLPA, that was, of course, sarcasm.
Sticking one to the NFL.
And ironically, this week I had a Michael Shrayhan interview.
And we talked about how he changed the old Coughlin famously in New York to make him the new Coughlin.
Well, evidently, old Coughlin is back trying to find guys like Fowler, 700K for not coming to optional treatments because players don't have to come in for treatment.
So there's a couple levels here.
One is it's a big win for players.
Anytime you, you know, an organization gets smacked in the hand for getting greedy in the offseason.
It's great because they do with practice time, with time in the building, with doctors.
the Trent Williams thing comes into play, second opinions.
It's why players get second opinions.
The Trent Williams thing.
If you don't have your choice in doctors, it's a big deal.
You see that you can't trust some of these NFL doctors.
So it's a big victory for the players, and I'm happy.
You saw the Jalen Ramsey tweet.
Nice.
Guys you're happy for.
Hutt.
Off top my head, you know, I want to do this longer segment on Friday, but gosh, do you have any?
Yeah.
Who?
Mark Ingram.
Yeah, Mark Ingram's my and Joe Staley.
Yeah.
That's very good.
We had the same one.
Yeah.
Mark Ingram because a lot of people wondered why he would ever leave somewhere like New Orleans,
and I've always really respected him.
So for him to go to Baltimore and not just be a part of this ride,
to be very, very central to their success.
Mark Ingram is on the short list.
As is Joe Staley.
Can you imagine working your ass off your whole career,
on shitty teams, up and down,
then getting to the Super Bowl,
losing it, thinking we're fried,
staying in it another three, four years,
one in 15, two and 14,
as bad as they've been,
coaching changes,
and now he's back.
Throw into the mix the fact that he broke his leg this year.
I mean, he's got a direct line
at being in Miami again,
and it probably feels like a lifetime ago
that he had his first shot.
You want to talk about SpyGate?
I do.
I wonder why SpyGate.
to obviously do your job gate is what we'll call it because the patriots are alleging that
the guy on the jade glazer video was just filming um their advanced scout who was in
Cincinnati in preparation for the bengal's game unless you're living up under a rock you know what
the fuck happened i've already wasted 30 seconds um i wonder why they're they haven't taken action
because the key here hinges on whether or not there's more video and does the rest of the
the glazer video look like the part we saw.
And if it does, they're fucked.
Yeah.
But probably not this year,
because the league does not need a problem like this ahead of the Super Bowl.
Have you ever heard of a team who got caught cheating in a year
and then went on to win the Super Bowl or a championship?
It's unprecedented, as far as I'm concerned.
I've said unprecedented in three, four times of the segment.
It's like I've run out of words,
but it ain't going to happen and the league's not going to let it happen.
The league is going to slow play this through the playoffs.
We won't hear what happened until the offseason.
and watch the league is going to get into hot water
because they're going to be like,
oh, we just figured this out.
Nice.
I can delete it.
Do you want me to delete it?
I can delete it if you want.
What?
That's what Homeboy was saying on the tape.
Oh, yeah, that was awful.
Just let me delete it.
No, I can just delete it.
I'll just be gone in 30 seconds.
That's the end of the pod.
Thanks for stopping by.
Okay, so because Macon had to go,
we're going to do corrections with Dr. Fax.
Dr. Fax was taking an app.
I wouldn't sure how much of the pod he was listening to.
Do you want to go through the corrections?
Yeah, so we have Al Cowlands Bronco.
The company wanted to buy it to take to people,
to take it to people on the graveyard tour.
Cowlings declined.
The car was bought from the Cowlands for $75,000
and was in a garage for 17 years.
Oh, that Bronco is probably in beautiful shape.
You like to do that type of stuff.
You put a Bronco in a garage?
Yeah, for about baby.
Just let it sit.
My 95 Bronco has.
60,000 miles on it.
Go clean it every week.
Yeah, love it.
Dusted off.
Only 20 miles have been added to the adometer since.
That's beautiful.
Car is currently on display at Alcatraz East Crime Museum in Pigeon, Forge, Tennessee.
Who knew that there was an Alcatraz Crime Museum in Tennessee?
They're obsessed with crime in Tennessee, fighting crime and putting people in prison.
I would just imagine it's the perfect place.
for a prison museum.
I wonder why people just,
older couples just rolling through
like, oh, let's go look at that prison.
Excuse me from Alcatraz.
Alcatraz is in San Francisco.
Not a big detail.
Bobby Knight, there's a Bobby Knight correction.
We talked about where that Bobby Knight chair might be.
And it is in the basement of Assembly Hall
at Indiana University.
That's weird.
Is it?
It should be auctioned off.
What did you guys talk about?
Bobby nights
I'll have to check it out
Yeah check out the pot
You were taking a nap
Yeah
Another correction though
I just got a text
From somebody who was at that game
And claims that
Nobody heard Jarvis Landry
Saying to come get me
And that nobody talked about it
On the sidelines
Now take that with a great assault
It's just one person
But I think we might have entered
Into the character assassination
Stage with OBJ
And Juice Landry
Just saying that they look alike
No, there's just two guys that are continually asking to, evidently, leave Cleveland.
Yeah, why not?
I would want to leave Cleveland.
Absolutely.
So, like, why not just be vocal about it?
I agree, but evidently nothing was said on Sunday.
