Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Week 2 Recap. Dave Dameshek's new 'America's Team'. Justin Herbert's Debut.

Episode Date: September 21, 2020

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Jam-packed week two rundown here on the Greenlight Pod. Happy Monday to everybody. We're going to talk about two of the best games yesterday, my particular favorite, the Kansas City ball game and the Seattle, New England ball game. Notice I left off the chargers. I didn't mean to disrespect them like that. What I meant to say was the Kansas City Justin Herbert game.

Also, we'll talk about the Eagles, the injuries around the league. We'll talk about Macon's New York football giants. And if we were the Jets, would we go get sunshine if he was there come next year. Also, Dave Damasek is going to join us to talk about his Pittsburgh Steelers, our Pittsburgh Steelers, since I have him in the Super Bowl. Yes, I'm now part of Steelers Nation. And he's got a hot take that I really like on America's team.

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for details. Gambling problem, call 1-800-gambler or in Indiana, 1-800-9 with it. Very happy Monday to everybody out there. This is the Greenlight Pot. Remember to subscribe, rate this bad boy. and tell your friends if you do like it. Don't tell them if you think it sucks because we don't want that out in the universe. I'm your host Chris Long. This is my esteemed co-host making Gunner.

Hey, Chris. Hey, friendo. How you feeling today? Did you watch as much football as me yesterday? I didn't, but I was going to tell you that I'm in a strangely good, positive, upbeat mood. Yeah, it's weird. I have an office over there,

as the people can see. Yeah. And I was walking over here thinking about telling you about my good mood and then I hear a car alarm going off get closer it's mine do the thing where you fish in your pocket to try to do it without people seeing it not successful get closer loud loud loud then I get to the car and there are a dozen construction workers eating their lunch around my Jeep Grand Cherokee as if it were a campfire and I had to be like I'm like apologizing to every single one I'm like sorry sorry

Sorry. That's the worst person to do something so clumsy in front of like working men. Yeah. Just try. They got their hour to eat their lunch. And you're fucking it up with your yuppie car and your yuppie haircut. 30 seconds. That felt like three minutes of car alarm.

Well, your day is all uphill or all downhill from here. Yeah, potentially. But the weather outside, brosive. It's lovely. Brusf, brough. Yeah. 65 and sunny. Yeah.

Can't beat it. You cannot beat that. Excellent temperature. And yesterday I was thinking because the temperature was much the same. And over the last two days, it's just been lovely what's been dialed up here in our great state of Virginia. I had this moment of, it was like, it was divine. I was watching the games. My man cave is set up.

Thank you very much. You haven't visited me in my man cave yet? We do a podcast. Week three, I think. You think that's the week that you might watch football with me? I'm dial it in. I'm thinking to myself. I've got my three teams.

TVs. I've got direct TV working. And I've got this lovely man cave, a lot of natural light. And I'm thinking to myself like, this is my official retirement press conference. I feel retired right now more than I ever have. Yeah. I mean, this is what it's all about. And I didn't realize what I was missing. It's another layer too. I didn't know what I was missing. Last year was, oh my God, the fall is cool. This year it's the fucking man cave takes this thing to the next level. So The man cave is in operation. What that also means, a lot of stimulation. Got the big board on the white board right there with all the bets being laid.

I turn that thing on its face when my lovely wife, Meg, and my children come into the man cave to check on me. The dopamine, it's a little out of balance on a Monday after all that stimulation. I feel like people that really watch football, I don't know how some of these folks that do it that watch every game by Monday. Like, they have to be essentially hung over on Monday morning. Which brings me to my next point. Gambling was off the chain yesterday. Your boy had a big day. A lot of units moved.

But it was in doubt until that last play Sunday night. No kidding. Which was a five-unit swing for your boy. Listen, the Carolina Tampa Bay over actually hit. I had a red X on my board next to that total in the fourth quarter. It just looked like an impossibility, and I jinxed myself into winning that money. So that was a roller coaster ride. Kansas City, of course, it's wholly unfair to bet against Tyrod Taylor, and then you're not

betting against Tyrod Taylor. Like, what's going on with that? But I don't think I yelled louder the entire Sunday, and Cowboy Reed can attest to this, than when James Connor damn near backdoor covered for the pit. My Pittsburgh Steelers, my Super Bowl champion Pittsburgh Steelers, I, I said to read, 30 seconds before it happens, here we go, loaded box fluke touchdown. We're gonna cover the number was six and a half.

And of course, my man breaks free for what looks like he's gonna be my white knight financially on Sunday. And he gets the piano on his back around the 40 yard line. I swear this guy runs a 4-8. I love James Connor to death. First off, the two big ones yesterday, that were captivating,

were Kansas City and New England slash Seattle. We'll get to those in a second. I do want to do shoutouts. We've got a plethora of shoutouts. Can I make an amendment? Yeah. Shouts out. Yeah, I like that.

That sounds cooler, right? Yeah, shouts out. You got any shouts out? I do. I'll rock through them quickly, as discussed, the weather, beautiful. Yeah, we got to get outside. Mo Ali Cox.

He's a tight end for the Indianapolis Colts. Didn't watch that game, thankfully. He went for 111, and the Colts signed this guy in 2017. He was a Hooper down in Richmond, Virginia for VCU, hadn't played football since his freshman year in high school. Say word. Yeah, say word. And goes the Antonio Gates route, except for the fact that he didn't play football in college either.

Hooper, 111 yesterday from Philip Rivers. Wait, Hooper caught a lot of balls from, Austin Hoopers isn't on the Cleveland ground. Yeah, we need to backtrack. I'm calling Mo Ali Cox a Hooper. A Hooper. Gotcha. Yeah. Maybe I should have gone Hoopster. Yeah, Hoopster.

Guys got game. Mikea Kaiser, heck ton of tackles. Hell yeah, dude. For the L.A. Rams. Yeah. He was all over the place. Wah-hoo-wah. Calvin Ridley, one of your guys.

He's now tied with Stefan Diggs for most receiving yards. He had a big day in a loss, which we'll get to, unbelievably. He could be in the running for one of the brand new superlatives that we're driving off the lot later. Okay, nice. Jules, beast.

Yeah. Oh, beast. And then I'll go with a trio of kickers with cool names. Young Hokou, just kicking it through the uprights. It's going to say left and right yesterday. It didn't make much sense at all. Kicking it through the uprights with regularity yesterday, once again in a loss.

Rodrigo Blankenship, the rook. You love the kickers, yeah. Out of Georgia. With the glasses. And your guy Harrison Buckker with the 58-yarders just whenever you, whenever counts, doesn't count, doesn't matter. I'm concerned about Bucker. I'm concerned because his name sounds like it'll be a verb for something negative in the future. Like, did he just bucker that?

Kind of like in our Greenlight pod comments, the Macon, M-A-K-I-N-G-Hur. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We have a bunch of illiterate listeners. Well, I guess we've never really spelled the name. No, for those of y'all who want to comment and take a dump on Macon or... I am reading them and you, some of you people are mean as heck. Yeah, but some of them are nice too. His name is spelled M-A-C-O-N, like Georgia.

Yeah, bacon with an M. Yeah, like bacon. Macon, Macon, Bacon. Is it my shout-out now? Shouts out. I want to shout out Steve Belichick's Mullet, my guy. I mean, that thing was just dripping with swag. Like cascading over the back of his.

His, I think he opted for the mask that actually doesn't do anything. Well, his dad wasn't much better. His dad had the, I think Kyle had a good tweet. It was like he had the Black Plague mask on. You know, the doctors in the Black Plague with the pointy like beaks. It was kind of creepy. But Steve's mullet was on point and that's my guy. He gave me lacrosse shorts when I was in New England.

I still rock them. So I appreciate that. Jordan Reed didn't see this guy for a while. He's had trouble staying healthy. This was a much anticipated debut of sorts this year against the team that really didn't demand anybody watch the game. So I want to shout him out, 7 for 50 and two touchdowns. JJ Watt, I listened to a pregame show yesterday,

and the argument is compelling. Guys were saying, now this is a really, it's a weird conversation because what constitutes a star, right? JJ is always going to be a star. Somebody said, is JJ still a star in this league? And one or two people said, no, not necessarily. Two sacks by halftime yesterday and a loss. And it's going to be a lot of that this year for the Texans.

But for this guy to come back from everything he's come back from injury-wise, it's pretty impressive. That's off to him. I don't know how he does it. Joey Bosa, okay? This is the WDE Don now. The White D.N. Don. Okay, it's an elite fraternity. my man is just a dog on the field

and he was all over Pat Mahomes, led that group, as we're going to talk about, but really tough to play yesterday. I mean, losing your brother to an ACL, losing your brother to any injury, watching your brother play period is really stressful.

And to take the field in the late game in the home opener and see that happening as you're getting ready to play, your division rival is tough. and I wondered how he would respond. I remember last year, or my last year in Philly, I had this great game against the Jaguars, and I was riding high, a couple sacks in London,

special win for us. I mean, winning in London feels great. It's just really cool. And we're getting ready to go out. I'm at a nice steakhouse, and my mom's streaming the game. And her face just goes ghost white. And Kyle gets rolled up on my brother

and gets carted off, and that's the end of his season. And just the helplessness that you feel as a brother, knowing what your brother's going through, having been through that, and seeing him on that cart halfway around the world was really tough. So I was thinking about that yesterday,

wondering how I would have been had I learned as I'm warming up for a game that my brother is lost for the season. So tough for him. Also, Robert Quinn, my guy. Sack, his first play is what I hear, if I were to watch that game that happened yesterday,

other than my rooting interest on the Giants who covered by the way. Robert Quinn first play making his presence known and Tyler Childers non-football. That was a pretty cool little video.

Pretty cool video, pretty cool album. I mean like objectively I love the album. This guy puts out an album for free with no press lead up. Tremendous artist and it's just fiddle for like the whole damn thing. And then the last song, I don't wanna do the thing

where I say he dunks on anybody or he's preaching to people, because that's like the thing he's not trying to do. He's just trying to alter perspective as the way I look at it. And this dude, I mean, for somebody who doesn't know him, and I wasn't surprised by the stances he's taking on police brutality

and on some of this stuff, sorry to wade into politics, some of you guys deem this political this early, but he's a great musician. I wasn't surprised that he had that stance, What was just amazing was the surgical nature with which he delivered the message. I thought it was really hard if you're listening to that message to not consider another perspective. And he did it great for a guy who's from where he's from.

And one of my buddies, Pat Hallahan from MMJ, buzzed me last night and was just blown away as a Kentuckian and a musician at how awesome that project was and how just like fist pumping good long violent history. the title track is. It's all fiddle all the way through. And then Tyler just goes off on the last track. So football pod, but shout out to Tyler Childers here. But those are my shoutouts. We got a bunch of shouts outs.

Is that how I would say that today? Shouts out, yeah. Shouts outs. You got to cut the second ass shouts out. Yeah, okay. Thanks for helping me be cool, man. Kansas City and the Chargers. I guess first off,

have we ever seen something like this? Like an NFL quarterback finding out he's starting at quarterback 10 minutes before the game. I know I've heard stories, especially in college of coaches, not wanting to get the guy nervous, so you tell him as late as possible. But nah, 10 minutes, NFL first start.

Yeah, that's the part. I mean, usually it's reserved for a non-football injury, and it was, it sounds like, and I hope Tarad is okay. I got it right this time. Well, his mother calls him to Rod. I can call him Tyrod. Yes.

Shout out to Tyrod. I hope he's good. That's really disappointing. It's really hard for him because he just went through this with Baker a couple years ago. And another guy who ascended on draft day to find himself on Tyrod's team. And the last meaningful football game he's played in was Bill's Jags playoffs. So here's a guy who wins a playoff. game and albeit not like on his own strength.

I mean, he was the strength of the team and the defense, but his career, it's, it's tough and it's gonna be tough to find another spot, especially after yesterday. Usually you don't find out about somebody just entering a lineup like you said at that juncture, let alone your first start without preseason. It's pretty unprecedented. And the point they made about all the Oregon staff

turnover makes it even more impressive. And it also sheds light on maybe why he's ahead of where we thought he might be because we're looking at this COVID offseason. We're looking at a new NFL team and a new playbook and thinking, damn, like this is going to be hard for a guy out of college who had a bunch of question marks with accuracy and et cetera, et cetera, and being polished. Maybe this was actually not that bad for him. He's just good at hitting the curveball.

So listen, after watching yesterday, I know this kid in Josh Allen. I know that. I mean, that's doing him a disservice to compare him to Josh from a throwing standpoint. 22 of 33 for 311. Yeah, I mean, he threw the ball well. And as much I want to pump the brakes on Herbert, I can't really do that.

Now, Tony Romo, kids call it simping. That's when you leave comments and Instagram. I think this is what you, like, leave comments under a woman's Instagram like with a compliment or, asking for a girl's at, or just generally falling hard for somebody, that's simping, I think. Okay. Tony was simping for Justin Herbert, and he was doing it all day.

And in fact, it was funny at one time he says, I can already tell this kid's special. On cue, he misses the tight end in the flat. So it was fun to listen to Tony fall in love with Justin in real time. I don't know if he had this confirmation bias before the game, but he loved it. And Justin started hot right away. I'm thinking, man, because I was late to sit down to the game, I go, what the hell happened? They're in the red zone already.

How'd they get down there? You know, it sounded like he was dealing. Well, he didn't really do much on the first drive, 70 yards, yards after catch on the dump off, and a four-yard scramble that proved he's athletic. Thank you very much. The throws, though, there were multiple wow moments for me. And I think per capita, per game in the NFL,

this had the most wow moments. Like this was, this was the, even as great as the game was Sunday night, it was the most fun game to watch because you're seeing history of motion, possibly. Now, it's just one game,

but as I said, there were multiple really good throws that jumped out at you. The toss across the middle to Allen was, as I like to call it, a piss missile. Yeah. The touchdown throw to the corner

was great. I mean, he ignored that like flash, that, that color flash that a quarterback's going to see on his ball hand side. A lot of times you'll climb the pocket. He knew he didn't need to. He didn't need to panic. And he fired a strike, the only place he could put it. And then there was the truck stick, which was just, who was it he ran over on the sideline? That was a moment for me yesterday that I actually felt as a former player. For carries, 18 yards. and a TD. Yeah. I mean, he's going to be a problem

with his legs, but you could just tell at that moment, that is a sturdy cat. Because when dude hit him on the sideline, I thought Herbert might lose an AC joint or Herbert might get dinged. Like the linebacker went down. And you could tell why,

because he's the same size as Justin Herbert. That's a big kid. 6-6-236. Yeah, that's a big kid. You're hitting a tight end at that speed. You're not hitting a quarterback.

And he made mistakes. he forced a ball that gave the Chief's life. He did miss Henry in the end zone, I believe on a drive that ended up in a field goal late. But it was like really exciting. And I think the NFL is two for two with rookie quarterbacks

infusing excitement in the game this year. So let's overreact. Does this mean the Chargers are good or are we worrying about the Chiefs? I think it's definitely more of the first than the second. I think the Chiefs have always struggled with the Chargers. They pointed that out during the broadcast.

Mahomes doesn't play well against these guys because they can get pressure with four. I mean, which is the key against a great quarterback. Maybe not all of them, but when you heard about like Brady, who's a different player than Pat Mahomes, like the reason the Giants were such an Achilles heel is they could get pressure with four. And you could scare him with just the guys up front, Bosa, Ingram, Tilleri, who had maybe his best game, depending on, you know, who's asking or, you know, this kid's in his second year, I think, which is impressive to take that leap with no preseason and that sort of. sort of thing. Mahomes was bad in the first. 3.2 yards per attempt. Everything felt like a struggle,

like back foot throws, drifting to 9 and 10, taking hits, making his own line look a little bit worse than they were. Schwartz, he's given up two sacks in two games, but like I think he maximizes his talent. I don't think he's Lane Johnson. He's definitely deserving of all the accolades. But on the other end of it, sometimes he gets a bad rap for. for Mahomes drifting. And sometimes Mahomes puts his tackles in bad positions, drop target 10, 11 yards. It felt like everything was off his back foot.

And everything was underneath, like no time to get throwing to wide receivers. And before Cheetah exploded in the second half, they were talking about it in the broadcast. Like he was not finding receivers. It was like Kelsey. It really felt like a guy who had a safety blanket and had to go to him over and over again,

dinking and dunking. And that defense is really pretty good. even with the James injury, there was a point, and I could be wrong, where he hit Mikul Hardman in the fourth for 22, and this was the longest pass play of the season? Hmm.

I mean, two games in, I'd have taken that to Vegas, that they'd have had a chunk play over 22 yards. Then they hit the 54-yard at a hill, which, of course, Romo remarked, who could come back this fast other than the champs? Like, they were down 11. They scored 11 points in 15 minutes.

I do think this makes the Chargers really competitive the rest of the year to answer your question, though. A playoff team, I'm not sure. 23rd best strength of schedule, so they're going to see some teams here coming up that could factor into when you play Justin Herbert again if you're truly not. I see them competing with everybody in the AFC West. That's the key. Like in their division games, they're going to compete with Las Vegas. They're also...

Denver. also going to compete with Denver. I mean, Drew locks out two months, and as you can see, they are kind of de facto Achilles heel to Kansas City. So what's Anthony Lynn telling us here? Yeah, what's he getting that? Yeah. I don't know. Listen, Lynn, of course, insist that Tyrod, if he's healthy, is going to take the field Sunday. Maybe Lynn knows something that we don't know about Tyrod. Maybe he knows he won't be okay for a bit, and this will work itself out without him having to throw Tyrod under the bus while he's still in the hospital. You know what I mean? Like, what kind of a position are you in as a coach? Like, you can't, you haven't had a chance to talk to

Tyrod. And early afternoon Monday, the word is that Tyrod is week to week. Say the charge is. Week to week. So maybe he knows he's week to week. Maybe he knows he's going to have to trot Herbert out this Sunday anyways. And without kind of pulling the rug out from under Tyrod, he can make that that safe play. Maybe he likes the week six. target regardless that we've talked about on this show but it shows me that Lynn is like safer than I thought you know to have the luxury to I think they would have slow played this well well safer than you thought nice segue yeah fourth down one yard to go in overtime against the Kansas City Chiefs that was safe uh what what are you doing um I grew up with a guy named George Welsh who uh was a

conservative cat. Yeah. And I got a coach up in New York, Jason Garrett, who says that if your drive ends and a kick, it's a good drive, puns included. So as much as I like to kick it away there, fourth and one at the Chargers 34. The Chargers 34, it's basically you don't get it, you lose. Because you got Bucker on the other side. That's a 52-yarder right there.

They're going to need 30 yards. Casey had scored on four of nine drives to that point. Chargers were averaging 4.2 yards per carry. Yeah, give it a shot. Just give it a shot. That's why I go for it. I know this is because partially I had the chiefs and I was praying that they didn't go for it

because I was really nervous about the way they were running the ball. And also the chiefs defensively were on the field all day. So you saw them start to fade out a little bit. That's a tough. I mean, you look at time of possession a lot of the way through the game. If the charges can do that and keep Kansas City off the field the way they did, the second game

is going to be a tough one as well. I would have gotten the yard. At this point, as you said, if KC gets it back, anything goes. I was also nervous about Casey's decision to kick a field goal, like partially because I had the chiefs in a teaser plus or

minus three and I'm thinking to myself like, let's get greedy and get the touchdown here, Andy. Like, don't you know, your boy has chickens on this game. Units on units on units. Yeah, but like my nervousness was like one shot from Herbert after a miss field goal puts them in field goal range. And like, Bucker, I'll admit, I didn't know how good he was.

I've heard plenty about how good he is in the past 24 hours. I don't keep up with the kicking game as much as everybody. I'll admit that. Again though, I have concerns about his name. Speaking of fourth and one, the Chiefs had a fourth and one on that ensuing drive that ended in the game winner.

They went for it and they got it. That was a fourth and one similar spot, I think. Fourth and one from the Charger 46. They go, they get it, they win. They must really love that kicker because you're talking about,

and to be fair, it was what, fourth and five or something? When he kicked it, yeah. One thing though that really cost them was kind of that bogus or borderline, if you ask in alignment, and they say it's bogus.

Me, I say it's borderline, the holding call on the chunk play that got them down inside the 10 in regulation. They get that ball down inside the 10. They're not having to sweat in overtime, and I've got even more units today. So not a big fan of that call. The main event, though,

and this was a great game. I mean, it just really was. Seattle, New England, The last time these two teams met in Seattle in 2012, the Seahawks got the win. And that game feels like a million years ago, right? Of course, that was the game that precipitated. Did I say that right?

Like it led up to? Sure, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It led up to the meeting like two years later in the Super Bowl, which everybody knows how that ended on the infamous final play. The meeting in 2016 in Foxborough, which I was a part of,

came down to a gronk fade in a no-class. call. And this one came down to a goal line stand. So the trilogy has been on point. But the reason that I remember that game in 2012 was one image. And it's just burnt into my brain. And I remember the image of Richard Sherman screaming at Tom Brady midfield post game. And Sherman looks so hungry. Like it was that look that embodied the soul of a team that was about to rise. to dominance the way they were going to get it done. I mean, just hungry, scrappy. And even in our division at that point,

we were all bunched up as bad ball clubs, kind of mediocre ball clubs outside of, I think it was San Francisco and Arizona where the top dogs in that division. We had no idea how good that secondary was about to be, how good that football team was about to be. The moment in 2012 that I saw that unfold was the moment that signaled a person.

power shift in the NFL, not just in our division. It signaled the arrival of like a new power player with that defense that would be the strength of that team that had a Super Bowl window and ended up with a ring. I ended up with almost two rings. We'd be talking about Russell Wilson right now way differently, which I think is a little bit unfair. I mean, we'll get to hit his legacy in a bit here. But eight years later, there's been no hugely unexpected power.

shift with that game. No one surprised the Seahawks won it. Even Pat's fans have tempered expectations with a Cam Newton-led offense and the Tom Brady hangover. But it does signal like a solidification of a shift in identity for both teams. And it acts as like kind of a measuring stick, like a barometer for the two franchises as we sit right now. So, I mean, much to delight of analytics nerds.

the internet and every member of NFL Twitter, the Seahawks are now far and away driven by that kid who was unproven in 2012. I mean, that's the dawn of Russell Wilson. And again, he was in the passenger seat, not the driver's seat. And in 2020, it's really fitting that he gets to have like what feels like this really unnecessary coming out party.

I mean, how many times can this guy have a coming out party? He tossed five touchdowns to five different players, four wide receivers, and it's not just like the numbers, it's the throws, like watching the throws. By the way, in 2012, the guys who caught those balls in the fourth quarter that went for touchdowns were Sidney Rice and Breland Edwards. Okay? Also in 2012, we threw the ball 27 times

and they were down most of the game. Last night, they threw, the ball 28 times, but they were in phase the whole game. It was a very different 28. That red zone touchdown to locket was vintage. I mean, I just got done watching football for 10 hours and I thought to myself, this is entertainment. This is Hall of Fame quarterback play. Like this is different than anything I've seen all day. Of course, Mahomes is usually the guy that you watch and you marvel at. He had a down day. It reinforced the value of a quarterback when it comes to entertainment and cam was great too we'll get to that in a minute but this is russell you know

like that touchdown to locket avoiding the left end in the red zone i know the feeling well played him a bunch sacked him a bunch but one of the hardest things you have to do with him is consider not getting too shallow in your rush not running by him in this case the dude comes with power as you should in the red zone on the outside shoulder rus kind of climbs and stacks him like a receiver overwood puts the tackle and the DN behind him and throws that strike in traffic to lock it. And then there's the Metcalfe bomb, which obviously a beautiful inside stem,

again stacking Gilmore who is just, I mean that's a matchup, you're really excited about winning on Monday. And it was more beautiful vintage rust dropping a deep ball in there. Like did you ever see the game Angry Birds? You ever play Angry Birds? Yes.

Russ's deep balls remind me of angry birds. If you're really good at angry birds, you can put that bird wherever the fuck you want it. Red basket. Yeah. And he puts it right there. And that was a beautiful throw. Shot out Lockett for not moving his hands, really. At all.

Kept him low so as not to alert the DV that something was coming. It was impressive. There's just the confidence that when they're taking these shots, and we've seen it time and time again, that the ball is going to be exactly where you want it to be, there's no other quarterback in the league that does that, including Patrick Mahomes, with that regularity, the touch on a deep ball,

the touch on a deep ball. Pat Mahomes, and they're both baseball players, ironically, who'd have thought the best three quarterbacks this year would be two baseball guys was baseball swag, and a guy we thought was going to be a receiver. I'll give you one more. And another baseball guy and Kyler Murray. Kyler the creator.

So maybe we just need to start drafting baseball players. But I thought to myself like this is amazing and as if those throws weren't enough, I thought the best one, and of course there was a Swain touchdown, he was wide open, which is concerning for the pads. The best two touchdowns were the David Moore shot and the Chris Carson loft

with pressure in his face. Football porn. You called Aaron Rogers, Aaron Razors. Razors last week. Work on a Russell Wilson nickname. On the shot to David Moore, he's got Lawrence guy who looks like an extra in like the longest yard.

I mean, he's just like the consummate football player looking dude that's going to drill you, bearing down on him unabated, and he puts that fucker right on the, pylon and David Moore does a terrific job, toe tap, kicking the pylon, but it was all about the throw. And then the Chris Carson toss, I mean, Rush just gets leveled and he throws a strike. Carson doesn't have to break stride. He's open, but he doesn't have to break stride. It was beautiful.

Maybe Shottie and Pete Carroll were reading their PFF press clippings a little bit on third and one. That was like, that was almost what happened out there, Dada. Yeah. In the running, for sure. Especially because Whalen would have come down this morning to the breakfast table and been four or five units shorter than he was Sunday night. And Chris Carson had just gone two carries for nine yards on the two preceding plays. Yep.

I mean that was a little cute. It was almost like, don't listen to everything, Twitter says, okay guys. But they still walked away with that huge win and they find themselves in the driver's seat in the NFC West as the most exciting team in the NFC. me. And one of the most encouraging things is not a perfect matchup for Seattle, which makes surviving that early game sequence and a rash of secondary injury so impressive. Like last year, if you remember them, I'd have to go back and look. They had a bunch of games where they beat themselves and they still won, which just goes show you how good Russell Wilson is. Like,

you've got this coach who's kind of stuck in the Stone Ages as far as running football. You're doing things like they did in the New Orleans game where I think they gave up two non-offensive of touchdowns. And that was a loss for them, I believe, at the hands of Teddy Bridgewater at home. But they had a bunch of games last year where you're not supposed to win games if you turn the ball over

and it turns into a score on the same play. And they did that with regularity. They did it again Sunday night. They showed poise doing it. After the McCordy pick, off the hands of Greg Olson, which I never thought would happen. They ate up nine minutes of clock.

and erase that gift. I mean, New England did not get the ball for a while. That offense gets cold. That offense feels like, man, we jumped them on the road and now it's negated. The game got shorter. And then when the secondary injuries hit, and they hit hard, guys like Dunbar,

I think it was, made a huge pick, second play in the game. And then they had a kid who, according to Chris, I could be wrong, I get confused with all the, injuries they had in the secondary yesterday blows up that last play submarine's lead blocker and uh allows them to he's one of the reasons why that goal line stand happens and by the way bobby wagner which they didn't mention on tv uh blew that up by knocking the puller off it was a thing of

beauty and a big play for your boy here i was worried about the seahawks up front that that obviously my concern, everybody else is concerned. They ran the ball with ease, okay? I worried about Seattle's strength offensively being negated by Gilmore and the crew. D.K.K. Look like a bully, okay? DKaff. Yeah, DKaff Metcalf. Did you make that up or did I make that up? Joe Tess made that up by accident. Oh yeah, yeah, Joe Tess. Yeah, remember that guy? Yeah, he was awesome. Yeah, he's now doing Macchin on Tuesday. I don't know that Macion is in existence this season, but he's doing some college ball.

Damn, the same year, and the same year that you got to leave the booth for MNFB, you're thinking, all right, at least I got some action, pandemic. Yep. Fuck. But yeah, DK, decaf looked like a bully. And Lockett got loose.

They threw four touchdowns, the wide receivers. That happened four times all last year in New England. So the Seahawks passed the test in prime time. I will say this, New England enjoyed a big victory last night. And I know Bill's not in this stuff. So if you're a friend of the program, Bill, he has texted me to, neither here nor there texted me to say he appreciated me complimenting their mode of travel as a team.

I did that on the Ryan Rusillo podcast last year. So Bill's the man. So I'm sorry, Bill, if this gets back to you. But you had a moral victory last night. You really did. I mean, they showed they can push the ball downfield. And I was worried about that so much so that like New England fans seem to be doing the let, let Cam Cook thing a little bit this morning, which is, it's different in that accent.

They have to be in phase. I had heard Cam didn't, you know, have the same pop on the deep balls, the stuff outside the numbers. I heard that out of camp from players, okay? third hand. Some of the third down calls reflected that. I felt like they kind of wave the white flag backed up on some third and mediums to longs. They ran the ball.

The option was poorly executed on third and four. Late, Jamal Adams closed and made the play. But people looked at the bad pitch and they were like, well, maybe they pick it up if the pitch is good. I think Jamal is going to hawk-hawned for a two-yard loss. Regardless, those are calls that scream like, I'm not sure. But at least last night,

night. Cam attacked the middle of the field really well. And the Seahawks, like lack of pass rush really allowed him do that and ease into it when delivering those chunk plays. That's why like, I suspect New England is taking their time and establishing this ability. I wonder if they were hiding a deficiency, but I also wonder if this is more about making month one of the season a preseason. You know, keep things vanilla, keep things basic. We know how to run the ball. We'll do that. Cam knows how to run the ball. He'll do that. They used to say in New England when I was there. And they say I'm sure after I was there and before I was there. You know, it's a new season in October.

It's a new season after Halloween, specifically, which I always got a kick out of. So if I had like great games like I did in the first month of the season, I was like, fuck, this is for nothing, huh? Like, oh great, I'm playing left end. I'm playing in a 4-3. Nope, that's all going to change after Halloween. But it's true.

It's the same thing offensively. The season starts later in the year. So the last 20 years, they've been able to evolve at that pace. They've had that luxury. I don't think they have it this year. And Cam nearly threw for 400 yards and a touchdown.

He rushed for two. You can still be a red zone monster with a QB Rug game that keeps coaches up at night and mix in your occasional shots. You don't have to go let Russ cook. Just let Cam take some shots. Now the negatives, the defense,

the losses we've talked about, it's a totally new group. Bill made a questionable call. They let 13 seconds run off late in the game, didn't use a timeout. There was the incredibly long pause. I wanted to plug the pause in here for the listeners that could hear that when a reporter asked him about that post game, which was a very reasonable question.

The pause was like 18 seconds. It was literally 18 seconds. I think he knew maybe it wasn't the right call to let that bleed a little bit. And I think all New England has to do now is continue to improve, get in the dance, especially a year where there's no home field advantage essentially. And, well, we don't know what,

let me not say that for sure. We don't know what January holds, but I can't imagine that we'll be letting fans flood the stadiums to do this thing. There's also no big deal about getting a buy. There's only one team that's going to have a buy, and that's a big deal for that team. But unless you think New England's in the running for that,

Just get in the dance and you'll be better by that time anyways. The secondary is even taking some lumps. Pass rush has to be better. They haven't had like winners at those positions in one-on-one situations for a couple years now. Not since long left. Not since long, sheared and like four other guys and we combined to make up one Chandler Jones. That's right. You know, like you had up a 28-year-old Jabal Sheard and a 33-year-old Christian.

long and you've got yourself 0.8 Chandler Jones is in his prime. But you lost all that. You manufactured it last year. Chase Winnevich, who was really good last night, needs to be great. He needs to be like, he needs to rush like a one. And at times he does, they need to get home to take the pressure off that defense. And as for Seattle, we've got concerns up front. You've survived against two of the most anemic pass rushing teams in the league. And they can't pressure the QB themselves. So that makes the Adams trade really important. And also maybe why they didn't make the clowny move reupping him because he doesn't get home a lot. You know, in the inconsistency and within their scheme, maybe they wanted edge rushers that could win. Maybe they looked at Bruce

Irvin and said, hey, eight and a half sacks last year in Carolina, he can come back and be the guy here and return to Seattle. But unfortunately, last night he got hurt. I hope he's all right. When your best players play great though, it elevates everybody and in big moments they did it. Adams was all their field, Bobby Wagner made the play on the goal line, and allowed Collier and whoever was the torpedoed, that lead blocker to get their due praise.

And finally, for you, if I may, the last play of the game, I was 99% sure what it was going to be before they lined up and I was 100% sure when they did in fact line up. Yeah. all 11 dudes as closely packed

as 11 dudes can be in a formation and it didn't go so good. Nah, it didn't go good, did it? You didn't, I mean, take one guy away, take one guy out of the box, Julian Edelman,

who's been all over the field, have him run across the line of scirmage? I think the internet would have broke if they didn't give the ball to Cam Newton on the one. Well, okay, but RPO. Yeah, I didn't love the call,

but again, if Bobby Wagner doesn't blow that play up, we're having a totally different conversation. And you had this backer who's one of the easiest all-time greats to forget in our game right now, run through and save the game. Because I think Cam gets the edge or Cam finds a way to fall in,

even with the great play of Collier and MysteryDB. I thought it was Blair, but I'm not sure. It sure could have been. It sure could have been, and that's what's important. Right. Yeah, like, in that game was an instant classic, but today we're talking about injuries. Yeah.

Sunday night highlight, low light's going to be the injuries. Yeah, all the hangover stuff. A rash of injuries. The word rash gets used, like when you have a rash. Yeah. And then when there are a bunch of injuries. Yeah, that's it. And unfortunately.

Well, also when you make a quick decision. Oh, yes. Yeah. Yes, good call by you. So many. Golly day. Which one do you think impacts the team the most? Man, there's a lot. Let's go through. I mean, CMC is out a couple of weeks. That'll kill a lot of momentum for Carolina's offense, but they're not players as far as, like, the power struggle in the NFL right now.

And it doesn't seem like it's a long lasting injury for him. Hopefully he's back soon. Sequin's huge. We'll get to that. Your G-Men. I also don't think they're an important team right now. so it's hard for me to although it was like a just a massive bummer to hear because he's so exciting you're pulling for him I don't think it's a big deal

for the for the power shift in the NFL so to speak there's no there's nothing that's going to follow this when it comes to the top of the NFC East um Drew locks out six to eight weeks that's an AC joint sounds severe

Cortland Sutton's out Jeff Driscoll here are the keys to the car and shout out to Cowboy Reed who is an avid Broncos fan I did not have the Broncos on the 3 TV set up yesterday and he's watching game cast as he takes notes for me

I mean we got some great people here at Greenlight Pod yes indeed also you gotta be a good person to be a Broncos fan these days that's not as fun as it was back in the day two one score losses Devante Adams got a hamstring I would be more concerned but the Packers didn't need him much

to score 40 for a second week in the row. Could be nothing, could be serious. Malik Hooker, Achilles, adding to the injuries for Indy, Marlon Mack went down last week. Did he have an Achilles too? I believe he did. They're already weak in the secondary.

A big one though, Isaac Samalo in Philly. A guy you haven't heard of unless you're an Eagles fan, that could be a killer for them they're already pretty thin the depth gets more shallow up front for a unit that was probably the best unit in the league

rolling into my last game two years ago in New Orleans so Bruce Irvin we mentioned that that's a big one but the guys who got the injury bug were the Niners okay Jimmy G's high ankle sprain you can survive that it's going to be a bitch he can miss some time but the schedule's soft

for a little bit giants eagles dolphins Nick Mullen struggled surprise Nick Bost's ACL that's a Big deal. I don't think this was a Super Bowl team this year. I mean, they still might be. They, you know, stranger things could happen. But what this does, it's not just losing out on probably your best defensive player.

You know, you lose Thomas as well. And you lost Buckner by way of injury and free agency. Oh, and by the way, D. Ford's out right now with the neck. So this really squeezes the Armstead decision. And it's kind of unfair on Armstead because you kind of chose Armstead for, financial reasons over Buckner, who I think is a better player. And it's only getting tougher for Armstead to justify that

because now you're without Bosa, you're without Ford, you're without Solomon, and things are gonna get, they're gonna get ugly here for San Francisco. They might not lose a bunch of games, but they're gonna be ugly wins. Armstead won't have the same year and people ask why.

I mean, it's obvious what's around you matters. Like it mattered the scheme and what was around him before they collected that group and made that run last year. The front seven's pedestrian now and a year where they gotta play well because the secondary is kind of trending down.

So I think they could lose the Eagles, which that's not good right now. No, I noticed when you said the schedule was soft and you mentioned the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah, it's not good right now. But, you know, they have a point on the MetLife thing. I, like, the whole MetLife,

MetLife gate right now, Turfgate is, is that players are going down on that turf. And the Niners are going to run it back. The Niners have to go back next week, which is such a mind-fuck. I don't know what the line's going to be in that game, but I might take the Giants. Just because the Niners,

I don't know where their heads are at right now. Diana Rossini said yesterday that she'd been texting with players on the Niners and some of them are afraid and anxious to go back and play at MetLife. Don't blame them. Armstead tweeted to fix the, quote, trash turf.

He said it was thick. He said guys were getting stuff. Guys were getting stuck. He said guys were getting stuck. Fred Warner called the field spongy. They installed new turf in the offseason. Previous installation had been 2013. Consider though, look back and see how each player got rolled up.

I mean, Zach Banner and James Connor got hurt week one. Nick Bosa got rolled up on because he didn't disengage on a block. And tight end just finished him over a pile, which is football. and that could happen on a grass field. But I don't know if like that mechanism at the very last moment where your cleats supposed to give as you're being peeled over a pile, this thick rubbery turf where they put too many pellets down on it.

Like I know what they're talking about, a thick turf, it's scary, your foot gets stuck. Maybe that's the reason. Maybe it's the same thing with Zach Banner. A hit that would have looked bad and he would have gotten up from. Maybe he does get up from if he's on grass. Sealong Packers,

13 and 3 a year ago 2 and 0 this year where are they in this NFC power structure well you know I was a I don't want to say like a hater because I was just realistic on Green Bay last year I didn't think they were as good as their record indicated I'm almost ready to say uncle on the Green Bay Packers

good for you yeah I'm listen I'm about writing my wrongs on this show I'm doing it the same game with the Lions who we'll get to 40 plus points twice in a row, Adams had a hamstring again, they're slinging the ball all around the yard. I think they fit

nicely in the NFC behind the Seahawks and the Saints. Hey-oh. Yeah, I mean, they really because I don't believe in the Niners, as we've said. That leaves the Rams. I think I'm taking Aaron Rogers over Jared Golf any

day of the week. NFC East, Dallas has got to prove it to me. NFC South, the Bucks have a lot to prove. this is a team with one of the best quarterbacks in the game right now he's playing like possibly a top three quarterback um and it's year two in a new system year two in a new system and i should have included him in that group of three i mean he's not a baseball player but he's erin fucking rogers Aaron fucking razzers and you also have to feel good about the fact that you jumped seattle in

the postseason last year whatever that means okay week two perfect time the perfect time to talk about which coach is going to get fired first. You know, it's funny because these coaches, I'm sure they're like, it sucks so much, it turned on the TV and my face is up there and they're talking about how much I suck. I'm like, try being a player. You guys literally make a living going upstairs and talking shit about players. Like boo fucking who, you might get fired from a job that you make a lot of money.

And no one has ever gotten fired for good as NFL coach. You get a new job very quickly. Nope. and a lot of times that's the case with the players but usually not so much if you do certain things you don't get as long a leash naturally Zimmer got a new deal

I think he's safe for better or for worse the hot seat guys are Quinn Patricia Gase the weird thing about Gase is Chris Johnson was just talking about what a genius he was all week Fire Gase now it's no good yeah it's bad between

between Quinn and Maddie P I think those are the two we got to watch for here because of, unless Chris Johnson sending smoke signals or smoke screens, not signals, signals are like, hey, I'm over here. Screens are like, nah. Right. More of a screen.

It's like a screen. It's like a, hey. Signal more of like a signal. Yeah, you got it. I think it's Maddie P. And I think it's Dan Quinn. And I think it's probably Maddie P who gets the ax first. Partially because where this team was before the season,

they had me fooled. They had some other people fooled. They might still turn the corner. I don't know. Um, you know, Stafford's healthy. He has a run game. This is a few years into the Maddie P experiment. New ownership essentially since the daughter took over.

And that's the wild card. I could see this being a thing where she's just like, fuck this. I don't have to deal with this and I want to, I don't want to have to wait a year into my new role. I do think Quinn gets fired. Blank is a patient guy though. Also saw him do a CBS hit yesterday. He has a ranch in Montana and he wants to.

wore a cowboy hat for the internet or for the interview. Where are you on dressing up for interviews? Blankton. Yeah. Pro. You're pro. I'm not a cowboys guy. I love how Dach sported the, what's that, a 10 gallon hat?

Yeah, something like that. Yeah. You went full cowboy in the presser yesterday. Swag. I do think Quinn gets fired. I'd love to see Rahim get another stint as a head coach, even if it's an interim. Schultz had an article in the athletic and it was great.

He threaded a lot of similarities between Mike Smith and Dan Quinn. Like both player coaches, very loved. Same collapses, same disappointments. You know, the Lions lost that he pointed to in Mike Smith tenure, way back towards the end of it, 21-0, they're up, they lose 22-21. It was essentially the end for him, even though Quinn didn't see it happened for another couple months. So this was a bad loss.

I think whenever he gets fired, we'll know this was a lot of it. Yeah, my pick is still Adam Gase. Last few years, six and ten, seven and nine in Miami, then seven and nine, now O and two in New York.

You have interim Greg Williams with a few Gs on the end of that name. You got Jim Bob Cooter on that coaching staff, a couple good options to take over an interim tag. and see what you got, see what you got with Sam Darnold and a new guy telling him what to do

because you might be there near the top of the draft. Would you like see Cooter calling the shots? Yeah, I would go Cooter over Williams. No, I'm going G-dubs. Interim-Rum Greg. I'm going G-dubs. I don't know, people are, like, it was funny yesterday, people were comparing it

to the 28 to 3 loss. No loss is worse than that because of the Super Bowl, but in a vacuum like purely football if both games were preseason games. There's a case to be made. You lost 28 to 3 to one of the best teams in recent history with the goat and the goat, and yesterday you lost to a struggling Dallas team,

and that defense was better at the Super Bowl year by a wide margin, but you also led yesterday 20 to nothing, 29 to 10 at the half, and 39 to 24th to go. And again, here's putting the ribbon on it. You're a defensive head coach, and that's been the problem down there

for a couple years now. The defense, again, just like Mattie P, you can't be a defensive head coach and have your defense struggle so badly. It can't be the reason you lose. Dallas went for four touchdowns of the field goal, final six possessions.

And we'll get to this in a minute, but Mike McCarthy gift-wrapped you in already one ball game by going for two, down nine. Yes. Which he just, he got the math wrong by one. I didn't see that. I didn't see that.

I'll take your word for it. Yeah. Okay. I'll get to it in a bit. It's inexcusable. But yeah, Falcons hands team. Y'all can touch that.

Y'all can go recover that ball. Speaking of struggling franchises right now where there might be a firing, Adam Gase, Joe Douglas, probably just Joe Douglas answering this question in a year. Are you taking Lawrence at one?

Yes, because of what's happened in Arizona. You go and take the chosen one, Josh Rosen, quick into Kyler, the creator, and now you're a contender. I don't care what draft capital you've spent, who you spend it on. Yeah, if you're not winning football games, if it's not trending in the right direction,

absolutely go after that next guy. I agree with you. I think you have to. I think also people listening to this conversation are saying, well, hold your horses. If they're there to take Trevor Lawrence at one, you have to take Trevor Lawrence at one, because that means you would have

continued this trend throughout the year. And I think it's a little bit screwed up because you haven't been able to properly evaluate Sam Darnold, Mono, bad talent, gase. But we have entered the getting made fun of on curb territory. I saw the episode finally last night, or two nights ago actually on my off night, where the guy died because the Jets were so bad,

essentially. No spoilers here. but they were openly mocking Sam Darnold. And when L.D., as our friend of the program, John Hamm calls him, is mocking Sam Donald. That's kind of the kiss of death, in my opinion. And if you let him go, he might be good somewhere. And I hope he is.

And I think Joe Douglas would hope so too. But for you to make that decision, you have to feel very strongly about our guy, Sunshine. Perhaps it was the kiss of death that gave Sam Donald. Damn it. It's hard to talk. Fucking step into my world. Perhaps it was the kiss of death that gave Sam Darnold mononucleosis.

I, as a mono survivor here, I contend that it was a cup in college. You remember when I got mono? Ought four. How do we say that properly? 2000, 2004. 2000 aught four. I still feel it to this day, 16 years later. Yeah.

and your boy had you traveled to Tallahassee for that ball game we might might have won yeah we got stomped by 30 points in front of an angry North Florida crowd we made the fatal mistake of being ranked higher than the Florida State Seminoles

for a brief period of time but I missed that one I had to watch it on TV mononucleosis uvula swall up couldn't breathe lost a bunch of weight arrowing make better choices Talk to me about moonshine. Yeah, moonshine's great. The beverage, but also the quarterback, thanks to you.

Moonshine Minchew was dealing again yesterday. And a big shout out to him and Jay Gruden. Simple reads, quick passes. I mean, the guy, I got to go back and watch it. Coaches tape, but, I mean, he was all over the field with it. And I talked to a coach that I know well. he said he reminds him of Jake Plummer which is one that I never would have guessed

I think we do the packaging thing too much guy looks like a guy you know Danny Dimes Eli Manning guys the same height the same shape Lamar Jackson Michael Vic Yeah same guy right According to a lot of folks

But his case for Jake Plummer and Gardner Minchu was he's a gamer And maybe not all the big elite skills But a guy who can win you games in this league a guy who gets better under pressure and can move the ball at times dink and dunk down the field

but is going to make some throws when you need him to make throws. Also, Tyler Eifert with the touchdown had to be the most awkward touchdown in NFL history after everything that happened last week when he opted out of bringing awareness to what we're bringing awareness to right now.

A lot of business-like high-fives. stiff hands fingers pointed to the sky five feet away you'd have thought Eifford had COVID the way they were dapping this cat up that's a better reason to opt out yeah COVID yeah that would be a good one speaking of throwing it out there is the I don't know you might have to

cut this being a company man is the shield cooking the books with COVID zero positive tests I mean that should be the headline after every single week That is nutty. They're flying all around the country. They're outsourcing their labs. So like you have to...

I don't know how you would do it. Yeah, it would be the biggest deep state conspiracy of all time. And if that ever got uncovered, the NFL would no longer exist. Okay. It's just, it's shocking. If you're trying to cook the books, like, wouldn't you like, hey, a couple guys got COVID here this week? I agree.

Wouldn't you like pay a player that you forgot still in the league to just sit this week out? I agree with you on all counts. Okay. It's just statistically getting a little strange. Yeah. Okay. Tampa Brady. What do you think?

Well, they didn't show me enough yesterday, but I'm not worried about him. I think, you know, he said this last week. It'll take time. That Carolina game will be a get-well game for any offense. So actually, I thought offensively they were a bit underwhelming. But you did see big praise from Bruce Ariens. I mean, that was a big, like, let me make sure I just give this guy.

Good cop, bad cop week to week. Also, good signs from Winfield, who was all over the field. He won the field. He won the field. And Mike Evans, who we had an early sighting of Mike Evans, which was great. Four net, did he go for a buck?

I mean, a lot of positive signs. This team needed a wake-up call. They got it. Brady didn't need a wake-up call. Brady has never relaxed. I mean, this wasn't enough. for him and that's one of the biggest things I think the bucks realize after a win after a loss same fucking guy same guy so if you want to bust back out the photoshopped you know a bunch of

celebrities walking into the you know mGM with Leonard fournett on Brady's arm and Mike evans way in the background and whoever else they have on the on that on that mock up don't do it this week don't do it I mean like if you're a Tampa Bay Buccaneer that this doesn't mean that like you can smile and and run around the facility like kids that just won the Super Bowl. Tom is on a mission.

I think they got a long way to go though. Bucks at Broncos next week. Somehow we're this deep into the program. Yeah. And first major mention of your Philadelphia Eagles. There's a reason.

Okay. Because they sucked yesterday. Yeah. Okay. Listen, the O-Line played better. So hats off to them, hats off to Lane Johnson

for coming back and battling through. I know it's tough for those guys up front. As I said, that's a big difference from where they were a couple years ago. They kept AD quiet with full slide scheme. But Carson continued to struggle. I mean, Carson did not play well. And last week, if you remember,

the implosion was around 28 minutes. We talked about that on the pod here. Same time frame this week. I don't know what it is, but about that time of the game he's kind of getting off kilter and last week he had a lead this week he was down

so I don't I can't make excuses for him there was one possession where I was like here we go he missed Miles he missed Ertz and then he missed Ertz same thing last week right before the half Carson can't press

and he pressed to throw that pick before the half like he needs to be more accurate in general but the Eagles defense wasn't playing well. You find yourself back in the ball game. You need points, but you didn't need them on that play. And sometimes I think that he thinks this last year, or he's so scarred from all that shit last year

that he's just like, I have to push the ball down the field. I have to go for the jugular. That's like, that's not what this team needs right now. Unfortunately, is it fair that your team's banged? up again? Is it fair that your team's not that great? No, but you can't press. That's not going to fix it. And thank goodness those cardboard cutouts weren't real people because yesterday would have been ugly. I mean, the Rams ran 67 plays, and this is who we should be talking about here. Another team that I was kind of wrong about. And maybe I, maybe I wasn't. Some of us

weren't wrong. Well, I had them penciled as number three in the division, possibly number four. I still think that could happen. That division could find all of itself in the playoffs this year. Yeah, especially because they play the NFC East. They ran 67 plays in motion or quick counted on half of them. Golf was like surgical off the top. He didn't miss a

throw for a while and actually he missed one touchdown throw because BG hit his arm like it could have been worse. They neutralized the Eagle strength. That was it coming into it. I was thinking to myself like how are the Rams going to neutralize the Eagle strength which is now the D-line and how

How are the Eagles gonna neutralize just Aaron Donald? LA neutralized like way more people because they got the ball on the edge, you know, reverses, sweeps, a lot of pre-snap motion, quick counting them. That's how you keep a rush off kilter in the play action pass. This looked a lot more like a team two years ago. I credit to Sean McVeigh for this offseason like doing some self-scout. Nine for nine, one sixteen, touchdown.

play action pass. 6 for 6, 62 yards versus the blitz. 4 for 4 for 42 and 4 first downs and a Tud on third down. 3 for 3 for 23 and a touchdown under pressure

and Higby destroyed the fucking Eagles. What's wrong with the Eagles? I think there's a lot of things personnel wrong with them. I think that we overestimated maybe the window. I'm not saying it's closed. I think a lot of things.

teams like a team like us and I wasn't there for the building of that team but we made a big jump and you're going to regress to the mean when you don't build over a long span of time like yes there was a building there was a building process but it was just such a big jump then the injuries hit and you get younger you opt for younger players and they haven't stayed healthy and you get rid of a guy like Malcolm Jenkins who's not only a big deal at safety you get you try to get better corner and they did but then the safety spots there's a void and there's a void in leadership and right now at oh and two they really need leadership so um i am wondering about their window and if they lose the cincere next week it's going to get ugly i don't know what happens if they lose cincere next

week we'll cross that bridge if they come to that and it bears mentioning rams at bills and a really fun one next week yeah that will be fun really fun let's get uh Dave Damashek on the line. Dave. So Monday, Greenlight Hotline. Got my man Dave Damashek here. And Dave is a fan, as am I, of the 2-0 football Pittsburgh Steelers. Are you? You know, it's funny because the most critical of any team is its fan base.

You know, I think that's a funny irony that people don't acknowledge. you're such a home or you like that team. No, no, I can nitpick and critique where they should be better as a matter of fact. But I'll take two and O, as they say, just get the W and move on to the next week. We're so reactionary more than we are in any other sport, in my opinion, about what you just saw, defines who that team is, witness week one, you watched, you watched some of the, well, the Chargers stink now. The Chargers barely beat the Bengals, ergo, they're garbage, and the Chiefs are going to smoke them.

and then you see what happens. Yeah, people forget about things like matchups and player development and this whole pandemic off-season structure, which has played a role a little bit here in the first two weeks. You had a really good take offline that I wanted to tee you up on. Last year, Baltimore felt like it could be a temporary America's team. Your take is what on America's teams?

I think in our ever-changing world that this jive, that the Dallas Cowboys have, first of all, I'm against self-knitames. Oh, regarding that, before we jump in on that. I don't like logos. I don't like self-knitames either. You know this guy, Brady. If you ever looked him up, this is actually, I can't wait to hear your answer on this.

If you go to pro football reference, sometimes they list the guy's nicknames above. Yeah. Do you, I mean, like, we made fun a couple of years ago, a few years ago, about Peyton Manning, like late in his career. Like, all of a sudden, oh, yeah, he's the sheriff. Like what? Yeah. Who decided that? When did that come up? The sheriff, 0.0% of people have ever referred to him as the sheriff.

And then I look at Tom Brady's. Do you know that listed among his nicknames is the Pharaoh? The Pharaoh? Does anyone to your, listen, you played against him in the Super Bowl? No. You played with him in a Super Bowl. Did anyone, to your knowledge, ever refer to Tom Brady as the Pharaoh? No.

And my buddy, Rosillo, loves doing this nickname thing because in the NBA, it's the same thing. If you're going on like pro basketball reference, there's like eight of them for guys. He's like,

I've never heard this nickname. Fuck no. I've never heard of Tom called DeFarro. I only have one. That's White Thunder. So that's good. That's accurate. And I did not give myself that name.

Major League gave that name to me and Robert Quinn. I, shout out to Joe Boo. I've never heard Tom called really anything. TB 12. TB 12. It's a ridiculous. I don't get this.

I, by the way, would like to call you Sir Flexer. Sir flexor. I know how important your flexor stretching this pregame. Dave remembers we had this conversation about, and we were just talking about plane rides home, plane rides home, because if I were Matt Ryan, I would tell the special teams coach,

he's got to go sit and coach. And I'm sitting in first class. I don't know. man, like we're talking about the America's team thing. And you got a great point. Dallas, it's time to give that up. Well, I took it. I don't know if you know this at all even.

But, you know, it came from a, you know, I really do resent the Cowboys, self-appointing or NFL films, whichever way you want to bring the America's team, all this. Also, why do the Cowboys? Why do they get every Thanksgiving, they in the Lions? Why everything else changes for Ray?

Why do the lions forever? Why do we have to be tortured as football America by the lions every Thanksgiving? They spoiled the day. But okay, the Cowboys, I said in 2017, Malcolm Jenkins, it was after the Kaepernick stuff, and Malcolm Jenkins raised a fist and got some heat for it. And Chris Long went over there and put his arm around Malcolm Jenkins. And I thought that that was legitimately beautiful. and a lot of people said in that moment,

do you see that this is going to fracture the locker room? And this is no place for that sort of jive and all that kind of stuff. And then you went and won the Super Bowl, which I thought struck down that claim for all of time. Now, whatever else you want to say, you can't claim that ruins a locker room. If you're in Jeff McClain's mentions or one of these Philly inquirer guys yesterday,

you would think there was an extended release penalty on being quote unquote woke because I saw a few people like, well, if this team wasn't so obsessed with being activists, they wouldn't. I'm like, bro, all the fucking guys that, like me, Tori Smith, Malcolm, we're all gone. So like, I don't know if you noticed that every team is demonstrating right now. That's not the excuse.

I would, I would agree if you're implying that we were America's team in 2007. I said in that moment, you can look it up on Twitter if you don't believe me. I decreed then and there. I love when you decree stuff. That's America. America's team I told people. And I let you wear that crown for a couple of years. Yeah, because I'm a generous soul. Maybe you didn't deserve it. So who's the America's team this year?

Well, I looked it over. I said, okay, the Eagles have had a wonderful rain, but it's over with now. It's time to turn the page. And in early December, because I'm a giving soul, even though the Buffalo bills were coming into Pittsburgh, PA, I said, you know what? I think the Buffalo bills deserve to wear the crown. America's team 2019. After all, their fans show up to tailgate on Fridays. They wear red, white, and blue.

Who suffered more than those poor Bills fans? Four straight Super Bowl losses, and yet they continue to have some sort of faith or whatever. I give it to them. And now it's up for debate, and I'm interested in your thoughts. The Pharaoh. I'm sorry,

Sir Flexor. My America's team, is going to throw you for a loop. I think it's the Washington football team. Oh, wow. Because just like America right now, the organization has been a complete shit show. They reside in Washington, D.C.

I'm waiting for a Ron Rivera. Somebody that can make me pull for what we have going on here in our country. So I would say that byproduct of being a total shit show, I'm going to make Washington. And this is an optimistic nod for America's team because at least Washington's showing signs of life, I'm going to

make the Washington football team, America's team. It's interesting because on the new podcast I'm doing with Cousin Sal and Charlotte Wilder, watch how I professionally work in a plug for it. Hit me with the name for it. It's extra points three times a week and this is a recurring

conversation for a Sal's a diehard Cowboys fan so he doesn't see why we would get rid of that. think the reasons are obvious for it that we've already covered here. And, and, you know, Charlotte is pushing because, because like a lot of the younger football fans out there, she's big on Gardner, Minshue. So am I. But that team's not going to be relevant in three weeks. So what do we, we're going to embrace that? By the way, a turquoise team? I'm not, not on my watch. I'm not going to allow it. I mean, the bills represent on every level. It's red, white and blue.

The guy that painted his house. Did you the guy in Buffalo that painted his house? Bill's colors like that ugly blue. That blue doesn't work on a house, by the way. It might work nicely on a uniform, not on a house. He lived next to a Jets fan. The Jets fan put a flag up. So this guy goes nuclear option and paints his whole fucking house. He's got the Bill's emblem on the side of the garage.

Yeah, Bill's fans are second to none. And that's got to be America's team. If you're interpreting this as a positive superlative. Yes. I have many questions for you as a football fan, diehard fan, but I always love to hear from you. One question I have for you is because everybody's now talking about. I have a Wence is, you know, obviously he had some experience with him. The overarching thing to me in 2020 is that everybody's using play action.

Almost everybody is employing play action. Is it, am I reading this correctly, that if you are play action dependent, which is not what Russell Wilson and Cam Newton and guys like that are, they can make plays without the play action. But if you are play action dependent, your team can only go so far. And you might have one year of great success, but enduring success is is off the table. That's what you are. Because when you turn your back like that periodically, you're not good enough to put your head back up and make a play. You're confused by what the defenses changes are after you turn back to look at the defense. I used to love playing teams that ran play action

because I was really good at shucking people and using my hands and I had a good instinct on and good defensive linemen can feel out play fakes. Really good teams make everything look the same. I think that actually play action might be without diving into this thing, getting in the lab and looking at this as a trend, play action could be an indicator of something else.

It's just that you are relying heavily on the run game to cover something up at quarterback. The reason that I think, Sean McVeigh does a good job. And again, I was wrong about the Rams backsliding. I know it's early. Maybe they still do backslide, but it's evident they did some studying. Sean McVeigh got in the lab.

The reason they got after the Eagles yesterday, besides out-scheming them offensively, McVeigh ran circles around that defense, and Carson not playing well. They got the ball on the perimeter. They confused defensive linemen. They ran a lot of quick count, motion, a lot of eye candy. and then you sprinkle in play action. If you're just going to make Hayas a team

that's going to try to take play action shots and you're not real dynamic pre-snap, you're the Minnesota Vikings. The Minnesota Vikings, even in their heyday, and Kirk really hasn't, I mean, Case Keenham inherited that defense, not Kirk so much, it's been downhill.

The Vikings, if they want to win a Super Bowl, they've got to win it with defense, you know, and especially in the post-defan digs there, which is just a dumpster fire at this point, the post-Defansky era. Play action is a good thing to get going to augment what you have deficiencies in. And you saw that with Kevin last week and Baker,

get him out of the pocket, play action. The reason we're owing and eyeing is because you're like, ooh, ah, you're covering up a deficiency. You know, I think that I'd have to look at it. I'm sure some teams that employ it really well. The Patriots probably with Tom Brady over the past 20 years, but they're outliers, right? Yeah, that's right. And I think Goff does look good.

I also, I don't like the McVeigh kind of like pulling the strings to a ridiculous degree. It feels to me like up to the 15 second mark on the time clock that, you know, he's literally in Goff's ear. For sure. I mean, it's like a video game almost, right? Yeah. Like, isn't McVeigh? correct me if I'm wrong. McVeigh standing on the sidelines like look at

the got look at the safety's creeping up up on you right? Isn't that like I've never I've never had the radio in my ear but I imagine I would imagine that you know I think what McVeigh's done nicely and this is not a slide on Jared Gough these two things can be true Jared Gough is not a

a fucking game record at quarterback and he's also not a bad football player Jared Gough is going to agree you and that's what we get caught in this thing if a high draft pick quarterback is not a Hall of Famer. He's a bad player. Jared Goff, all he's done is just busted his ass

and been productive. And Sean McVeigh did him no favors, and Todd Gurley did him no favors. And that offensive line did him no favors of the scheme when they had that kind of, what did a deviation or recession to the mean or whatever you call it? I forget the term. I used it last week

and I forgot it already. People freaked out. What did you think Jared Goff was? And so Sean McVey, I think, has into, okay, we had our good year, we had our bad year. Let's get realistic about what we are. And let's just lean into that. And I don't care if everybody knows that Jared's getting kind of puppet-shringed a little bit. Like all quarterbacks are to a degree. There are very few who are not scheme guys. And you mentioned one, Russell Wilson. Yeah, that's right. You know, cut him loose.

I love that. I love that they're letting up cook this year. He is the scheme. He's the scheme. So, yeah, and Ben's another one. I mean, like, you know, what does Pittsburgh do well? They find good wide outs in value spots and Ben just extends plays and plays streetball. Like there's very few guys like that. So we've discovered that either Washington or Buffalo are now America's teams. I like the takes

man. These are these are... I like the Washington. The Washington thing is a lot of fun. Next time let's talk about whether or not QB wins as a stat. I say that they I say that they are and one more thing for you because I can look dumb on Tuesday morning for your listeners

if I'm wrong. I suspect, you know, all the talk in week one on Sunday night last week was Tom Brady's lost it. First of all, he's a 43-year-old Pharaoh. How good is he supposed to be long? He's fighting time. I mean, like this idea that Tom Brady's not going to get older. I mean, like, yes, everybody's going to. But he was not the worst quarterback on the field that day.

It was Drew Brees. And I think without Michael Thomas, I think if Michael Thomas is out for three or four weeks, I think you will start to hear some like, can we get a look at James here? Because I think Drew Brie, I think it's done. I think that he is the liability. And this might, this is going to maybe scare you, but this pod's going to be out before the Monday night game. I know. I want it out.

Yeah. So Dave Damashik, you heard it here first that maybe the fall of Drew Breeze is not exaggerated. So we'll see tonight. Dave Damashek, appreciate you coming on. Always fun talking to you, dude. And go check out his pod one more time. us the very organic plug. It is called extra points three times a week and also minus three towards the end of the

week where we pick all the games, Philadelphia, New York, Pittsburgh and beyond there with our pal, Jeff Schwartz. I love everything Dave Damashick does. He's one of the best. Appreciate you, bud. You are, pal. Anytime. That's coming from the Flexor.

So I guess today we'll just call these the Greenlight Emmys because the Emmys were last night, which I did not watch. I was watching Fuzball. Shits Creek won all of the awards I'm being told in my earpiece. Really? Yeah. Swept them. Haven't seen that particular program.

I hear it's good. It takes a while to get into it. With all this football, I'll probably put that off to 2021. Okay. Who's your best plane ride, week two? Best and worst plane ride. Let me go L.A. Rams probably. I mean, it's a big one on the road.

I mean, that game sounded exactly. There's nothing sweeter than winning on the road in the NFL, the silence after you score all you can hear on the broadcast and on the field. A lot of people hearing silence this year. And that was the most normalized outcome yesterday from a crowd noise standpoint. Here was what was fucked up about the Eagles. They were piping in booze. Like even the Eagles sound team is Philly to the bone.

I mean, they were booing their own quarterback at times. They're like booing the defense. That's good stuff. Yeah. it was very accurate. It felt like the wheels were falling off. There is a travel consideration here with San Francisco. Yes, they lost all their players,

but we also mentioned their soft schedule and they're heading to the idyllic Greenbrier Resort here in our neck of the woods. Side of my mini honeymoon long weekend, which was canceled because of the ongoing novel coronavirus pandemic. Honeymoons are overrated. That's fine. Notice how I said ongoing pandemic.

So Niners, watch yourselves. Yeah, be careful down there. I mean, I know the NFL is not accurately reporting positive tests and whatnot, but be careful, be safe. Greenbrier Bowling Alley, or is that the homestead? I believe that's the Greenbrier. I've never been. Scheduled to go, have never been. Yeah, Greenbrier went in high school, snuck out of my room, and went bowling all

night just sneaking beers. It was like the shining in there for a drunk high school kid. It was amazing. Who's your best? Buffalo Bills. Fitsy is scary, man. Nightmare for the Brady era pets, at least in Miami Gardens at times. Miami scored 10 straight to hold a lead bidway through the fourth quarter. Bills come back. Josh Allen to Gabriel Davis. Josh Allen to John Brown for 46. They escape with the 31, 28 win and return to. to balmy buffalo and see themselves atop the AFC East, one of only five unbeatens in the AFC with a huge matchup looming as discussed with the Rams.

You lose that, you think, oh, are we not what we thought we were? Yeah, they're also, I think they were missing a few linebackers yesterday. Miami's better than we think. For sure. And it's, it's trappy for a good team to go down there in the middle of nowhere. Miami Gardens, Florida. But fourth quarter comeback,

2 and 0, that's a happy plane ride. I mean, obviously the worst plane ride is Atlanta. That plane ride, and I've been on a few of those. I've been on so many of those plane rides. Like, a lot of players are only unlucky enough to have one of those where everybody's getting fucking fired up in here, this plane, like look around

if we just made people disappear. There'd be four people left. That's the kind of cleaning house that's going to happen in Atlanta, like a calendar year from now. This plane, you know i i was on so many and on those flights it's just quiet and then towards the end of the flight you have the struggle internally and as a team of like am i allowed to laugh like if something funny happens or you know because there's this there's multiple schools of thought in the NFL with plane rides home and bus rides like everybody shut the fuck up if i hear any talking that means

you don't care and I'll take it that way. Or there's, dude, I just played my ass off. Like me moping and crying about it is not going to help anything. Like we in our worst moments are going to lean on each other and have some laughs, watch a movie, bullshit. And we'll deal with this thing tomorrow morning because it's going to be ugly tomorrow no matter what. I think it was probably more the former.

I think it was very quiet on that plane. Special teams coach just had buried in an iPad but not pressing play. Oh yeah, and you've been on flights. I have been on flights. Coaches in front, then players, then support staff. I've been on one where cheerleaders all the way back were a little bit boisterous after a loss. Yeah. And then we're flying commercial for the rest of the other years.

Listen, if I'm Matt Ryan, I walk up to first class and I tap the special teams coach on the shoulder and I say, hey, you're going to have to go back to coach. Right. There's no way with everything that Matt Ryan's been through that he should be riding coach on the way home from that disaster where they put up

damn near 40 points and lose. My worst is going to be Minnesota Vikings. No signs of life. Give up 71 points in two weeks. Second most in the NFL. Cousins was 11 for 26 for 1113 and 3 picks.

Yikes. Yeah, big yikes. Jonathan Taylor ate him up. VCU Hoopster Moeally Cox. Lit them up. And the vikes stink, man. Great stadium, bad team. Packers and Bears both 2 and O.

Yeah, it's trending down for the Vikings. I don't remember the last time they were this bad. I'm sure we wouldn't have to go too far. I don't know. They feel pretty damn inept. This is a nice segue into Hollow Man. Again. Terrific Kevin Bacon movie.

Shout out to Rona Mitra. Kevin Bacon. John Hamm. Those are two foods. at the end of those names. Yeah, that's true. Maybe we need a John Hamm Award in the next couple weeks here.

Maybe a guy who's acting, hamming it up, the John Ham Award. Don't anybody steal that. Kirk Cousins, a.k.a. Ivan Drago, aka if he dies, he dies. I am so glad I hopped off this bandwagon. I could make these guys the panic team too.

If this were the Emmys, like the bad Emmys, they'd be like burning a thousand, thousand calories walking up and down the stairs to the stage. I feel like I missed my horse and buggy to the Titanic, not picking them to win the division. My disdain for the Packers last year forced me to go lions. Vikings were next up.

He had a 0.0 passer rating at one point in the third quarter. I don't know what that means. Well, nobody knows what passer rating means, but 0.0 can't be good. It's not good. You can't be negative? I don't think so There's no contract out with this guy

He's 2022 He's due 35 million an injury guarantee And it actually becomes fully guaranteed The third day of 2021 When it comes to league year So 45 mil against the cap Impossible to move He is the immovable object

He is the biggest mountain in Minnesota I mean And he is a towering mountain right now For that Minnesota football team I wonder if they missed Daphansky. I mean, maybe Cubiac isn't all he's cracked up to be. I mean, I think I suspect he is.

I think they've got other problems. Also, Van Hoy, my guy, Kyle Vanoy, who I love, friend of the program, I'm assuming, in that he said one time he'd come on. He got trucked by Josh Allen, which is a bad feeling. Also, you could throw the Kansas City dude in there

that got trucked by Justin Herbert on the sideline. New award this week. the St. Louis Rams Memorial Award. This is an award, and this is not a greatest show on turf reference. This is a Spaggs era, Jim Haslett, Lenahan era, even Jeff Fisher era, Memorial Award. It means a guy that's playing in obscurity and nobody saw him, but he's probably doing a good job. Mackay Beckton, serving up pancakes. This is why Joe Douglas is the answer here.

He did a great job with the Eagles. A lot of times you didn't get so much credit. He brought in guys like Tori Smith through the Baltimore Pite. pipeline. I know he was the reason I came there. I mean like it was his disciple Ian Yates Cunningham. Shout out to Ian Yates Cunningham. Wah Huah that that Baltimore UVA pipeline. University of Richmond. My guy, Joe Douglas, a lot of connections there. He brought a lot of good vets in. I know how he had a lot to do a lot of that, but Joe never got the credit he deserved. And I think he's going to be the last man standing in this building. And the one thing that ensures it is he drafted this fucking

monster and he will be sitting there game of throne style watching everybody else get axed um and as the mushroom cloud clears you've got joe douglas emerging also i think you probably have there's a layup here you were watching one game i didn't watch kiler the creator kiler the creator he was good man there were some expectations this year and he's lived up to him so far in a big way scoring with his feet scoring with his arm and uh that plucky washington football, fitness and wellness, bait and tackle team. Some thought that could be feisty in Arizona,

but Kyler throws for 286, runs for a bunch more. Yeah, I don't know. Some of us cord cutters who can't watch every game are stuck with Washington and Arizona. I felt bad not only for the viewers of that game, but also for the game playing dudes themselves. Because it's a very violent sport

to play in front of no fans at home or on the field. I know there are a lot of Washington fans that watch the game. It's the most unfortunately slot of game of all time. Kyler Murray, bawling out in obscurity, sandwich between the defending champs versus an emerging number one

and Greg Roman's greatest show on turf versus another marquee QB. And you've got this poor game getting like pandemic daytime baseball game levels of, hey look over here, We're playing a very violent sport for your entertainment and nobody's watching and it fucking sucks for those guys. So shout out to them. St. Louis Rams Memorial Award is going to be shared by Mackay Bechtin and Kyler Murray.

Fly on the wall. I'm going to East Rutherford to talk about the New York Giants. Yeah. I want to hear, I'm legitimately curious to hear what Joe Judge has to say to the troops after you come back from Chicago, O and 2 without Sequan Barkley. For me, a Giants fan, the Dave Gettlement experiences is over. The Gettlement drafts, okay, 2018, number two overall, you drafts Sequan Barkley. Nobody's going to tell you that he's no good, he's great, he's electrifying, but he's also a running back, you take it too. And now he's going to lose this season, unfortunately.

Couldn't have foreseen something like that. And this is so easy to do to cherry pick drafts three years later. but Quentin Nelson is there maybe you build that way guys like Bradley Chub Minka Fitzpatrick are there and you go running back at two the next year 2019 you go

Danny Dimes at six Many thought you could have got them quite a bit later Yeah That same draft you have another First round picking DeAndre Baker Who has been cut Yeah not good

So that Dimes draft Do you go Guys like Josh Allen the other do you go Devin Bush If you know you can get him for sure later because I think Danny Dimes is I don't know if he's the answer

because there's so much carnage up there it might not play itself out well I like the kid Josh Allen would have been a great place to go if you could have got him later it makes you wonder though are you guys going to play chicken with Trevor Lawrence?

Oh please yeah please and this is the same conversation we had about Darnold I don't think Daniel Jones is the guy. I would absolutely draft Trevor Lawrence if you're in that position. Let me go one more. When you take Baker at 30, right behind

you is DeKaff, Metcalf, Terry McLaurin. If you want to go defensive, Juan Thornehill had a great year in Kansas City. And to round it out, 2020, you go Andrew Thomas at 4, jury out, obviously. But if you hadn't gone

running back quarterback, first round, 2018 and 2019, you have Herbert there, You have two of there. Isaiah Simmons, if you want to go defense, I just, I would have pieced this together much differently. And you're a Giants fan. And I'm a Giants fan. I mean,

suffice to say you've paid attention to this. Niners, at Rams, at Cowboys on deck. Maybe the Trevor Lawrence sweep six arm play. Oh, yeah. Let's do, you give me a quick panic and I'll give you a quick, don't panic. Mike McCarthy, man, what are you doing? What is going through your head, dog? the new fun math in the NFL is that when you're down eight and you've just scored a touchdown

you go for two because then you're down six and a touchdown and a PAT wins it. If you don't get it, you can go for two again and tie it up. When you're down nine, you don't do that. You idiot, you kick the extra point to get down eight. And somehow this guy gets bailed out. This is a week after making another boneheaded decision against the ring. Rams in the fourth quarter. Yep. So I'm panicking if I'm a Cowboys fan because Mike McCarthy is still shaking that rust off.

Cowboys fans don't panic. They just make shit up. I'm going to go, don't panic Derek Brown. Okay, I read somewhere that he played terribly the first two games. What the fuck does that mean? The kid just got, by the way, I didn't, I don't, I'm not sold on him, but it's been two games and the guys had no preseason and he's playing on a bad team. Give him some time. Let's do a pump to breaks. Mine's simple. Chicago Bears. Okay. Mitch Trubisky, who I'm very happy for, but he just came back against the team that he routinely plays well against

in week one. And they just beat the Giants 17-13. I think the Bears fans even get this, that we're going to need to see this throughout the season against some quality competition. We can't in one breath shit on the lions, shit on the Giants, make them the butt of every joke, but then make this the victory lap for the Bears. I don't think anybody's

doing that per se, but just pump the brakes. I'm going to want to see this bear out against some really good competition. I'll co-sign that with you. I would assume you would say bears most likely to a no team to miss the playoffs. Yeah? Yeah. I mean, I'd have to look, but they're up there for sure. At Falcons. Interesting one. Next week.

What happened out there, Dadda? Well, I think we both share this one this week. Falcons. Falcons hands team Know the rules Here's the deal man Okay You just called a timeout

And it's not like one person Didn't see it Five people didn't see it We were afraid that our boy Alamede yeah He was in there But yeah one of five You're right

He was one of five There were three that the ball rolled just by He was the second That the ball rolled by And I was afraid And then I got the closer look at it You've got veteran players

Like Julio Jones Hayden Hurst They don't know what's going on They're playing Spin the bottle with a football that's about to get their coach fired. Yeah. They're like,

like it's a grenade, man. I mean, I guess you don't want to fall on a grenade, but that would have been the thing to do there. Here's the thing. I don't feel like the announcers knew it. I would suspect most football fans didn't know that rule, but you're an NFL player. Like,

I know you didn't have preseason, but you just took a time out. That's a detail you want to look at, especially if young jeezies doing some funky shit with the football what do you think's going on here without a tea with no tea so um that was bad and it ultimately falls on the head coach it's kind of like throwing the ball at the end of the super bowl institutional control setting a standard and that's why dan quinn might get fired who i really like who's your viewing party this week we've touched on it Kyler Murray fantasy managers.

I thought I was out of it with that New England pick six. Turns out the houses still have a play against Kyle Long and the Ivy Gouchos. Thanks to Kyler Murray, who put up 30 plus points in the old fantasy league doing a little bit of everything. Got to be happy to have him on your squad this year. Yes, indeed. I had him on the squad a year early. That's right. Yeah.

I was early to the fucking party, okay? Here's my viewing party. The Eagles, in an empty stadium full of cardboard people that was dead silent, void of any energy, invite a celebrity conglomerate of Philly faithful, Carly Lloyd, Jay Wright,

Mike Trout, Kevin Hart into a suite, which is presumably frequented and filled with Eagles personnel. And that had to be the most awkward viewing party of all time. I mean, when you're in a situation like that, like even within the four people,

nobody wants to be the first one to be like, yeah, this team sucks right now, like out loud. One, you can't do it around the Eagles people because that's kind of awkward, but also like saying it amongst each other, you're like, wait, will Jay Wright get mad at me if I'm like, you know, Jay Wright has some life lesson here. I figure in that suite there was a lot of,

well, you know, if they do this, well, you know, next week, you know, I wonder if anybody was just like, man, this sucks right now. That's my awkward viewing party. Also, Ryan Tannahill, who went 18 to 24 for 239, four touchdowns, 145 passer rating, 90 QBR and 90 points above Kirk Cousins, and he was surgical in the red zone.

He's watching the Adam Gase thing, and Adam Gase is watching his thing, and one thing is not adding up with the other. So it's becoming clear who the bad apple is. Tannhill. In that whole situation, it's not Ryan Tantanhill. stunning. Some won't admit that

Tanna Hill is just really good. Some also are slow to admit that this guy is really good. My game ball, the quarterback Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills, we talked about him 24 of 35 for 417 and

four touchdowns. He also ran for 18 yards and the comeback win over the dolphins. Your game ball, sir. My game ball goes to Dak Prescott. I mean, it's a big comeback victory with with everything going on. I mean, it was just a week ago

that he went through all that stuff talking about depression openly and talking about mental health. I know it's going to look funny to do the social with Dak holding a green light game ball. It's almost sacrilege, but I've made no secret

of my admiration and respect for Dak Prescott. 633 to go, third and seven, Blitz coming, hits lamb for a conversion. And then the Schultz TV was beautiful, We mentioned that comeback.

When they needed a chunk to set up the field goal, he goes to Lamb, makes 34 for Atlanta look kind of dumb. I'm not naming Atlanta secondary players by name at this point. It was just a big win, and he made the connection with CD Lamb to get over 100 yards. And one win in the NFC East right now is solid gold. I mean, it's Bitcoin, baby. It's a bar of gold.

Like it's insurance. Like one win is just huge because these teams can't get out of their own way. He finishes 34 of 47 for 450 and a touchdown. Three rushing TDs. Also shout out to Aaron Jones. Cautionary tale here. No onside kick blunder.

Are we even talking about Dak in this light? Are we just shouting about Dak? Are we shouting about the Cowboys? Had nothing to do with Dak, that onside kick, but game ball. Points for, points against, plus minus, if you will. NFC East, every team in the red, in the minus. NFC West, everybody in the black,

plus 19 plus 21, plus 18 plus 14. I like to call that in the green. Well, as does the website I'm looking at too. But not all divisions created equal, but DAC, deck, well deserving. Well deserve, well deserve. And hey guys, we'll be back later this week with a pack show for you.

Above all else, take care of yourselves. Yeah, take care.