Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Week 3 Recap. Geoff Schwartz on Patrick Mahomes and Justin Herbert. Gambling Updates and Packers Comeback.

Episode Date: September 27, 2021

(2:06) - Hello, Layup Line, College Football Week 4 Recap, NFL Week 3 Kicking Display and Raiders vs Dolphins. (36:47) - Geoff Schwartz on NFL Week 3, Rams vs Buccaneers, Chargers vs Chiefs, Evaluatin...g Ben Roethlisberger and Matt Ryan and is Justin Herbert a Top 5 NFL QB? (1:02:51) - Chris and Macon Select the Winners of NFL Week 3 Monday Mentions, Including the Atlanta Falcons, Bruce Arians and Josh Allen. (1:27:45) - Chris, Macon and Dr. Fax Talk Fantasy Football, NFL Week 3 Gambling and Green Light Night Cap Award. (1:34:49) - Chris and Dr. Fax Review SNF: Packers vs 49ers. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:53 There's an extra week this year. These guys have 14 games left. They're getting together. Yes. Like there's so much football left that making like sweeping judgments just after. So we can't count the Jets out. No, we can count them out there officially. I think you, I saw a stat tape. The New York teams like their record in September the last four years is like they've won like one game, two games total. The two New York teams. That's bad. Really bad. Time of tape this Sunday night football.
Starting point is 00:02:08 is pretty close. 1714. Yeah, so we'll see how that goes. You are a guy who needs to call the Gambling Hotline. I haven't made. I haven't made about seven bets, which is great. Unfortunately,
Starting point is 00:02:23 I did just make the eighth bet. You hear the Wayne Gretzky quote? You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Same with the bets. Yeah, I'm not going to tell you anything about the game as we record. How was your weekend to this point? Really good,
Starting point is 00:02:39 actually. Really good. Hey, tell me, how was your weekend? My weekend was pretty good. Better than Lail Collins's weekend. Bribority. Drug test guy. Listen, not going to lie, the thought crossed my mind before.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I was like, you know, it would be cool if you could, but I was way too scared to ever do anything like that. That's an incredible, ballsy move. Like, that is a ballsy proposition there. You got to ask it in a way that, like, if he's like, nah, man, you could be like, ah, you misheard me. Right. And no shade to Lael, the way you made it seem in your career was that you, you pretty much knew when it was coming? Yeah, everybody knows when it's coming.
Starting point is 00:03:21 You know when it's coming. You know when it's coming unless you get in the program, which I believe Lael Collins is in. So while I want to, you know, laugh about the story, we shouldn't be drug testing guys, quote unquote drug testing guys. It's going to cost him $2 million and void the injury guarantee on his contract. So you ever bribe anybody? No. No, no, no, no. But I have stood by idly in an apartment while you were getting drug tested.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. A rep came, you were in between homes. Yeah. A rep came, wanted your urine. Yeah. And to your credit, you gave them real deal, holy field. A lot of, a lot of piss. A lot of piss.
Starting point is 00:04:09 absolute shit show. Yes, is the answer. Yes. I mean, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, we both bet the under. Yes. But guess what? What?
Starting point is 00:04:24 I was a genius and teased it up six points. So I got... Wow, listen to him. Notre Dame plus 12 and a half. And the total up to 51. I was too shit-canned by 2 a.m. Sports Center. Did this make bad beats because the fucking Notre Dame Fighting Irish woke up and scored 31 points. It was 1310. I turned the game off. Like I didn't even check it on my phone.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I was at a brewery, dude. I was like, yes, dude, this is free money. We're up on the weekend. I looked at my little ledger there and it said minus X amount of units. And I just damn near threw up in my in my beer, dude. Buddy, I accidentally checked it after the first pick six. and I did that thing in my head like, wow, am I a professional gambler? Should I do this for a living? Because everybody on the under just got burned. Yeah, see, you're...
Starting point is 00:05:19 But I teased it up six, and now I have won, and everyone else has lost. Here's who you are. There was a second fix. You're a rookie right now, and you had some good games. You can't get out over your skis, dude. That's how people start, like,
Starting point is 00:05:33 you know, having to sell all their belongings and shit. This is how it starts. This is two days. You're twitching, right? now, dude. This is two days after. You look like a fiend right now, dude. This is two days after App State Marshall, when I hit the live over at 65 and a half, 65 and half, for those unaware, the Abstate running back, scores 31.30, falls down inside the five
Starting point is 00:05:58 after Marshall parts the Red Sea, the Green Sea, and they're trying to let him score, and my guy smartly goes down. He could have run into the end zone and the overboard have hit. So under and I, and I lose that one too. That's a terrible beat right there and it's happened in the pros in the last two years. I think there was a total and a dude slid down slid down before. Of course, Todd Gurley famously
Starting point is 00:06:20 half slid down. You remember for the Falcons a year ago. You getting into gambling is probably the best thing that's ever happened to this show. And I haven't told you this until right now. Tell me. And we can save the nuts and bolts until facts and the end of the show.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Save it. I went one in 14. today. One win, 14 losses. You made 15 bets today? That's right. Probably did two. Actually, when you think about it, I probably do. We'll tally them up later in the gambling segment. But here was the worst part
Starting point is 00:06:53 about Wisconsin, Notre Dame. Lost 14 times. Here was, I mean, I'm not trying to gloss over that. One in 14. But I feel like we should just move on. Yeah, yeah. It's all good. So you don't think about it. So you don't think about it. It's all good because when you think about it, I got faith. I got family.
Starting point is 00:07:09 I got football. Yeah. And you got financial problems. Coming at you. There's the fourth F. Wisconsin's fucking uniforms. There's another F. Forward.
Starting point is 00:07:19 We're disgusting. Fourth F. Yeah? They had the word forward over the W on their helmet. I didn't even want to look closely at that thing, but I was like, this is probably the most hideous uniform I've seen on a big stage in college football this year. And Notre Dame, not much better. Don't need that.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Agreed. Don't need the pants stripe. Don't need the stupid Carolina, you know, like the UNC shoulder stripe font over it. Like I don't need the logo over the shoulder stripe. Don't need any of that. Just be in Notre Dame. Wisconsin. Yes, I do think you probably skate a little bit on that W.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I think that W is a little bit played out. Every high school in America has it. If your town starts with a W, if your county starts with W, everybody just rips that W off and puts it on their helmet. I think some of the throwbacks are great. But not this, dude. Not this. Whatever you're doing with this, the six looks like a fucking sideways G, dude.
Starting point is 00:08:11 It looks, yeah, it looks like a G. There's a six looks like a G. The shoulder stripes are stupid. They look like I got high and made a uniform on college football. And forgot about it. The next day I opened my franchise and I was like, what the fuck is this, dude? Damashek tweeted at me about a pant stripe and then deleted the tweet later because he was ashamed, I can only imagine. And he should be ashamed.
Starting point is 00:08:36 He was talking about how he loved the Notre Dame pants. stripe. Yeah, he should be ashamed. And he's wrong about that. So he deleted the tweet. He deleted the tweet. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Show me, show me a pantless, show me a stripless football pant, all right? And I'll show you a football pant that I like a good deal. A hell of a lot. Yep. Yep. Especially if it's gold. Sure. Shining. Hey, that leads me to Beville Conway Award this week, which of course goes out to the, uh, the most beautiful scene in football. And on Three. Oh, hold on.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I don't think we're going to have the same one. I think we're going to have the same one. Are you in the NFL or are you in the NFL? Okay. Okay. Three, two, one. Browns Chargers. Wow.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Too much orange, bro. Kind of conflicting like orange to me. I thought those numbers as fair as fucking on the browns there, the Browns looked elite. The bears just look like the bears. It's weird how we really like the Browns throwing. like full marks and yet we probably prefer the normal kit at this point. I mean, anything they're doing as long as they got that Andrew Hawkins off the leg that we talked about last week totally better. Yeah, I just thought Chargers and Chiefs such bright
Starting point is 00:09:52 contrasting colors, a grass field, a packed Arrowhead Stadium, retro, beautiful, vibrant, and also a great football game to boot. Yeah, I don't, I don't have much of a gripe there. Yeah. If I'm a bird and I'm taking my eyes view, like I'm way up high there. Titans Colts pleasing because Colts in icy whites and the Titans were in Navy, Powder Blue Navy. Now if you get up close to Titans, you're like, yeah. Yeah. Like Nashville, nice temperate.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Yeah, for sure. You're flying over a river there. Yeah, no question. Yeah. No question. Not a bad place to be a bird. Yeah. A bad place to be a bird, Boise Stadium.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Yeah. Yeah, fly right into that. A lot of birds hit the... U.S. Bank Stadium, Minneapolis. Like, they had to basically go to jail because they were killing so many birds, seriously. Fuck yeah, dude. They went to, like, you know, our mayor?
Starting point is 00:10:48 They had to go to, like, the mayor's office and talk about the bird-killing stadium they were building. Kind of an oversight. They worked on that stadium for, like, a decade-plus, probably put hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars in there and didn't think about the birds. Yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 00:11:04 R-I-P. Hey, two other things. First, Clemson, welcome back. That tweet didn't get enough love. I sent it to you. I was indignant. Because it's so true, they're back, dude. Clemson is back. Like, this is who they are. Welcome back to the PAC. We talked about this was Steve. To the PAC. Yeah, welcome back to the PAC. Yeah, they got beat by the PAC. So, listen, there's no joke playing in Raleigh, Durham. Well, they were in Raleigh, not Durham. It's a joke playing in Durham. It's no joke playing in Raleigh. We call that the Tri-Cities. I'm not sure with the third city. is. Triangle. What's the third city? It's Raleigh and then Durham. Yeah. And then the triangle makes Winston-Salem.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Yeah, yeah, that's good. That's good. Yeah, well, Clemson is back. We talked about this last week. If they don't have the quarterback right, it's going to be really hard for them to win games, and they haven't been able to get him going. And it took an L, they took a big fat L, and they're part of the ACC again. They're not Bama, dude. They're not Bama. Not that anybody thought they were Bama necessarily, but They kind of had a Bama-like death grip on the ACC.
Starting point is 00:12:09 They were pretty much Bama. And are we sure they're not still gonna win this conference? They're definitely gonna win this conference. But when I talk about Clemson and Bama and the difference between the two, I like the question I asked Steve, where would they finish in the SEC? Like that pretty much sums it up for me.
Starting point is 00:12:25 They'll dominate the ACC, but they don't scare me in the playoff anymore. Welcome back, Clemson. And they Clemson. And then, uh, The triangle makes Winston-Salem. Yeah, that's good. That's good.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Yeah, well, Clemson is back. We talked about this last week. If they don't have the quarterback right, it's going to be really hard for them to win games, and they haven't been able to get him going. And it took an L, they took a big fat L, and they're part of the ACC again. They're not Bama, dude.
Starting point is 00:12:54 They're not Bama. Not that anybody thought they were Bama necessarily, but they kind of had a Bama-like death grip on the ACC.C. They were pretty much Bama. And are we sure they're not still, gonna win this conference? They're definitely going to win this conference. But when I talk about Clemson and Bama
Starting point is 00:13:10 and the difference between the two, like the question I asked Steve, where would they finish in the SEC? Like that pretty much sums it up for me. They'll dominate the ACC, but they don't scare me in the playoff anymore. Welcome back, Clemson. And they Clemson.
Starting point is 00:13:27 The other thing, you see that kid tried to plant the flag? Yep. If you try to plant a flag, and this was, of course, Rishi Rice, who last name Rice goes to SMU playing TCU. Talk about a triangle situation there.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Like, holy Texas football. Good job. Holy non-traditional Texas football. But if you're going to plant a flag after wind, like make sure it doesn't have rubber on the bottom. Like it's got to be like a flag that you can stab into the ground. And my man, if you're going to run all the way out there and do something like that,
Starting point is 00:13:58 you've got to plant it. Like Baker planted the OU flag, right? Right. Or you got to hold onto it and act like it's in there. act like it's in there is what most people are doing. You know what I hate, I hate the most in this life? What? Trying to get an umbrella into the, into the beach.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Because there's, they're people, they're people looking. It's usually, usually family. I've never done that in my life. Good on you. You know me, not a beach guy. I'll make sure I skip that activity. So here's how it looks. You got your family there, your in-laws,
Starting point is 00:14:28 and you're the, you're the young strapping male, right? With a torn rotator cuff to boot. Yeah, labrum, con. whatever. And it's just a bitch, man. Oh. Because it's, it's, it's, it's basically a rubber ducky on the bottom. And I feel, I feel, I feel like Rice is pain.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Yeah. I mean, I run out to the Atlantic Ocean and, and plant that umbrella into the beach and you got to find, you got to find some soft sand, hot tip. Layup line today. It's something unpredictable, but in the end is right. I hope you at the time of your life. Football.
Starting point is 00:15:04 appropriate layup line. The Green Day song. I don't know what the name of the song is is the one they play at graduation because the Raiders graduated today. I told Cowboys Reed find it's good riddance. And we had this whole discussion back in the back about like, well, why would you do this for the Raiders?
Starting point is 00:15:21 Something's not ending. They're 3 and O. And I said, I've always seen this as the beginning. They're graduating from Raider High School. Like they were in Raider Middle School. Then they were like, they showed flashes and they found ways to lose a bunch of games. Now they're three and oh and I kind of believe them a little bit.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I'm not saying they're going to win the division, but I'm saying they put their little hat on, you know, that you put on when you graduate. And they're walking across the stage. I think it's a brilliant point by you, mainly going back to Green Day's Good Ridden song. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Because if you had played that, I'd be like, did all of the Raiders, family and friends die? No, dude. It's always those, you know, the PowerPoints with a bunch of pictures of kids. It make you basically feel like, I think it's, I hope they don't play that when my kids go to college. Make me sad. Another turning point.
Starting point is 00:16:14 It is kind of like a somber. Yeah. It's a somber song, but I think of it as like, hey, they graduated. So the Raiders, man, today beat the Dolphins. This was a game that I bet anyways. Like I was like, hey, I know they're going to blow this game. It's a total trap game written all over at Jacoby Reset. You know, they got their ass kick last week.
Starting point is 00:16:34 They're flying to Vegas. By the way, three and a half stunk. Which city would you rather spend three days in Miami or Vegas? Miami. Which Miami? I just, I'm looking at this game and I'm saying to myself,
Starting point is 00:16:50 the old Raiders lose this game. Download bet when? I just wanted to hedge my comment there, you know? I can still use the app in Miami while I'm in Miami. That's right. Okay. So I got, so I'm watching the game and you guys,
Starting point is 00:17:04 they get jumped and you're not supposed to get jumped at home like that's the opposite's supposed to happen and I'm going okay the real raiders are standing up I mean uh but no they chipped away they scrapped I mean the only way that they were going to lose this game was what Derek Carr did in the first five minutes of the ball game throwing the ball to a landon Roberts who took a few minutes to get to the end zone I love Alandon Roberts a Landon Roberts and I played in new england er gave me me a concussion in practice like in a walkthrough dude he has one of the hardest heads
Starting point is 00:17:39 I think it was definitely a minor concussion it was in a walk through in New England the helmet on or not rang my bell bro we had helmets on but it was one of those like walk through fit up things like we're in shorts dude and when I tell you he caught me on the wrong part of the jaw and shut down my carotid artery
Starting point is 00:17:58 for a second I was like damn I've never really had a concussion diagnosed but I think I just got one in practice in a walk through and that's a Landon Roberts great play by him but I'm not sure what happened on that route I don't know if Carr was expecting it to be like kind of an out route and instead dude ran an angle he threw the out but either way you're spotting a team like Miami who's pretty good defensively seven points at home then they give up another touchdown so they're down 14-0
Starting point is 00:18:23 here and not only do I think I'm losing my bet but the Raiders are not for real but then they chip away but even as they're chipping away they need a safety, which is the dumbest call I've ever seen. I don't know what they were thinking throwing that screen in the end zone. I mean, there wasn't even a setup for it. It's a safety. The Raiders come back. I think they kick
Starting point is 00:18:43 a field goal. They give it to 14 to 5, which of course is an interesting score. And then the craziest thing is, and they had ball security issues all game long, but they survive a fumble at the goal line. And by the way, this kid, Peyton Barber, who played nicely, he's
Starting point is 00:18:59 got to tuck the football away. Like, even on one of the last runs in overtime that kind of sealed the game, I believe it was, like a 30-yard scamper, if I'm remembering correctly. Guys carrying the ball out there like a loaf of Dave's Killer Bread. Shout out. Calvary's crunchy ass back there. He knows Dave's Killer Breed. He gave me like an ad-lib, bro.
Starting point is 00:19:20 He loves Dave's Killer Red. But this dude is carrying the ball like a loaf of bread. And on his touchdown late, he fumbled anyways. He barely broke the plane before he fumbled. He was lucky. You're not supposed to reach out and try to score a touchdown unless his fourth down on the goal line. He was carrying it like a loaf of cinnamon raisin,
Starting point is 00:19:40 Ezekiel bread. Oh, you like that shit? Yeah. So he got lucky there. He also fumbled on the goal line earlier in the game, and Alex Engled, you know, the fullback that they actually use, catches the ball like a gift from God. Also, he scored a touchdown in this game.
Starting point is 00:19:58 The Raiders, they took a punch today. and they took Miami's best punch and they came back and proved that they're at least for real. I mean, they pressured the hell out of Jacoby Reset. Max Crosby was great again. Surprise, surprise. They were just really resilient today. And I think that's a gutsy win against a good football team. Miami's not going to have a good record this year.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Okay, the ship has basically sailed on them being a playoff team, in my opinion. Okay. They're one and two. They're going to have to win with Jacoby for a few weeks here in a division that, you know, you got to catch the bills. so then you're in the wild card race, and I don't like leaving a chance with that. So I just, I think they're a good team,
Starting point is 00:20:36 but I don't think it's going to finish well for them. They need a quarterback. And Tua, I don't think I've said this before. I don't know that he's the answer. Jacoby made some nice throws late, but he's proven like why maybe he's been more of a bridge guy because, you know, it's a little bit inconsistent. You don't know where some, he'll throw a dime,
Starting point is 00:20:54 and then he'll throw the ball of the other team. So pretty entertaining game late in the day. to catch before we come in here and record. The Raiders are kind of for real. I think they graduate a little bit today. 3 and O at L.A. Chargers next Monday night. Oh, that's going to be beautiful. I might just want to give them the Beville Conway.
Starting point is 00:21:15 But it'll never look good. Actually. It'll never look good. It'll never look good as it looked when they play on that old Oakland Coliseum field at night. I mean, that was a scene. By the way, can I tell you something? I hate the Seahawks. They're my new Packers.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Fuck them. They're not winning the Super Bowl. The sea chickens again. I've never rooted so hard at different times, like thoughtlessly for a team that was my division rival, one of ours, if you could call it that. Did you have some money on Seattle? I had some money on Seattle today.
Starting point is 00:21:46 They got beat by the guy with the Plex Glass Box, who actually played very well, you know, and they lost to a team that didn't have Dalvin Cook. Their second halves are terrible. I don't know what's going on there, but I'm never betting on the Seahawks again. this season. Wow.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Yeah. Hold me to that. Okay. I'm not betting the Seahawks the rest of the year. They're not real. I appreciate them coming out and letting us know that early in the season rather than late like last year. It took till damn near October, November for us to know that they were kind of fraudulent. But it feels like they're a little bit fraudulent right now.
Starting point is 00:22:21 It feels like they are. Because if you can't win games in second half, how do you expect to win playoff games and big games in December? You just lost the guy in the Plexie glass box. insults injury Minnesota's on the board season win total I know so it totally screwed me so like
Starting point is 00:22:36 double trouble for me losing money on the Hawks won't happen again and Minnesota's on the board I think the total there was eight and a half wins so I'll be eyeball on that but you lose the team
Starting point is 00:22:47 with no Dalvin Cook no Bueno I'll put it that way Alexander Madison there you go for like over a century hey rookie quarterbacks we always need to check in
Starting point is 00:22:58 on the rookie quarterbacks Yeah, they're not good. They're not good, make. They're not good, make. If I were a prolific college quarterback, you know what I probably do? Stay in college. Get arrested. I would try to plummet to like the middle of the first round,
Starting point is 00:23:14 maybe the bottom of the first round, because it does not matter who you are. I mean, very few guys can really shine in totally chaotic situations. But for the most part, you're not going to play well if your surroundings aren't great. And that was true of Zach Wool. Wilson today, he struggled. I didn't even need to see that game.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Didn't even need to watch it, no he struggled. I don't even, did he do you struggle today? I wrote it down without even know. Shout out to the cowboy. I didn't see a single snap that Zach Wilson had today. And I know he's struggled. Two picks. Families gonna start handing their kids over to the jets
Starting point is 00:23:48 like, you know, they're going off to war or something or, you know, like it's not gonna be cool after this one. If Joe Douglas and Robert Sala can't figure it out, There's a curse there. Fields, stat line was gross. Yes. Bishop Sycamore stat line. Cabo Reed said,
Starting point is 00:24:07 six or 268 yards. Like, again, you're not helping the kid if you rush him out on the field. I don't care how much you like Justin Fields. This is not good for him. Like, like quarterbacks do not get better
Starting point is 00:24:20 in shitty situations. That can happen with position players, but more often than not, no matter who you are, this is not helpful. And then lastly, Trevor Lawrence continues to turn the ball over leads the NFL and I&T's.
Starting point is 00:24:33 So you, if you're Matt Nagy, you would have played Nick Foles with Dalton out? I mean, the problem with being a head coach is you think you can do anything, like make the playoffs with the Bears this year. But if you are going to run Justin Fields out there, you might want to have some plays drawn up for him. Yeah, you might.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Well, that's Jeff Schwartz, who's going to be on here in a little bit, like what they could do to protect him better and to move him around maybe or, you know, create some opportunities for him, not just be sitting back there and getting smoked. But like, this is a no-win situation for a young quarterback. I don't think the bears are good enough to make noise in the playoffs. And I get the Madaggy wants to keep his job.
Starting point is 00:25:10 And I don't know who has the final say in that. And I know with Dalton injured, that's one thing. But I would just rather not see a young quarterback for a little bit. Like, just, hey, take a seat, study, you know, shadow the vet, and get better. Because this is not helpful to a kid who's trying to win. in one of the biggest pressure cookers of an NFL city you could play in in Chicago. Brady, Mahomes, Razors, All set.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Yeah, they all sat. I was a quarterback I'd wanna sit to. Take the all sat. Yeah, I was about to say Lance Isle sat. And technically, Herbert sat behind Tarad before they punctured his lung. That's true. So they all sat, and by the way, Urban Meyer, too cute.
Starting point is 00:25:53 You know, they're going a drive where they run the ball up their ass and they score. And then really, really ran the ball like around the back of their ass. They ran the ball right around the back of their ass for a touchdown. And then they get the ball again. And they go flea flicker. Mm-hmm. Flea flicker pick six.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Too cute. Like another guy. We're not Gainesville anymore. You're going to ruin these young quarterbacks, man. And if you have any doubts about this as being like a truism, there's always examples that prove that, I mean, Josh Rosen's life didn't get any better bouncing around. Like some guys you just know, like, it's going to be hard, okay? He's on his third or fourth team.
Starting point is 00:26:29 But a guy like Sam Darnold, you know, this week. Now it was the Texans, but the consensus is that, oh, this kid's not bad, okay? Consensus on Matt Stavre was never that he was bad, but now he's like the coolest thing since sliced bread to the national media. And for many years, he was a punchline because he couldn't win in Detroit. It just goes to show whether you're young like Sam Darnold and you get a fresh start or you're older, like Matt Stavron, get a fresh start. It can be big for a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:26:59 So surroundings, context, that's everything. Brady has 68 yards to go till he breaks the all-time passing record. Do you think he'll do it? I think he'll do it. I think he might do it early next week. And guess what he plays next week? Pats.
Starting point is 00:27:13 The Pats. They're diabolical writing up these schedules. So I guess I'm going to ask you this. When do you think it's going to break the record? Let's do time of night. Let's do time of night. Let's do time of night. Time of night.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Today's game started at 820. 820. We said the second quarter started about 9 o'clock. There were 14 minutes to go in the second quarter at 9.01 p.m. So I'm going to say it was like 8.57 was the second quarter. I think he's going to do this at 844. Okay. I'm going to go 850 at night.
Starting point is 00:27:50 And you know it would be crazy. We've got to monitor the gronk injury situation, but can you imagine if gronk broke the record in Foxborough? Imagine if he had 69 yards to go. Wow. Imagine if he broke the record at six minutes, nine seconds into the first quarter. Well, what if he clears it by two yards? It's a 69th yard to Gronk in the end zone at like 912. 12 for TV?
Starting point is 00:28:13 We need a sick. He needs to miss all his receivers on purpose except Gronk. Just scheme up a 69 yarder break the record next week. Whole internet explodes. Bruce Ariens would do that. Bruce Arons would definitely do that. I think he gets the joke. Houston, Texas. Hello.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Oh, Houston. Why? Hometown of Justin Tucker. Now, I posit, Chris, that that's not a good hometown guy match. Justin Tucker, to me, is from Concord, New Hampshire. Yeah, I was going to say a Connecticut guy. Yeah. He did go to Texas. That makes sense. Okay, that makes sense. But also doesn't look like a Texas guy. He doesn't look like a Texas guy.
Starting point is 00:29:07 And where do you practice kicking in Houston in a bunch of concrete everywhere? Did he just put a tee on some concrete? No, no. We played a Super Bowl there. There was some, there was some grass there. I was there. I didn't see it. I saw fake grass.
Starting point is 00:29:19 It's ironic that you say he grew up kicking in concrete because he seemed like it. Well, he set the record in one of the most foremost concrete cities in the United States in Detroit today. I mean, and that turf feels like concrete too there in Detroit as well. But that was incredible. I mean, that was incredible. I know he has, like, unanimous respect that transcends even, like, being a kicker, like in the NFL. It feels like people have uncickered him.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Like, he's a football player almost. I think he got the ultimate, like, you know, cool guy passed from Lamar Jackson, Big Trust and all those guys. So people like Justin Tucker. I think he's a fun guy to break the record. And the circumstance is ridiculous and the doinx ridiculous. Like, everything about it was crazy. 66 yards, he's the only guy I'm kicking that ball from 66 with.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Well, if you're in that spot, I'm probably going to give it a go. He's the only guy that I actually think we're serious. Like when they lined up to do it, I was like, what? They really think they're, oh, well, it is Justin Tucker. You know what I mean? That's about it. About like Greg the Legg, 2013.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Maybe 2013 Greg the Leg. I'm taking my chances of 65, 66. But, you know, other than that, Hail Mary. Also, we had an onside kick record. We had a kick six called by Gus and Akib. Like, they were on the perfect game. Jamal Agnew caught that ball, ran it back at the end of the second quarter. Cliff Kingsbury with a questionable decision.
Starting point is 00:30:52 He forgot about the Auburn game that our friend Darren Bates was involved in. Actually, he wasn't involved in that game. He saw it live. We were in San Francisco. That was the night, I believe that Darren Bates, as he put it on this show, himself out with a door and was inactive for the game the next day. His roommate, Ray Ray Armstrong, was rushing home to make curfew.
Starting point is 00:31:15 After the kick six, it was pandemonium out there in San Francisco. Darren Bates, of course, were our room podcasts as Auburn Tiger, so he's had a great night. Ray Ray is trying to get home to make curfew because Jeff Fisher's going to come around and knock on the door soon. He swings the door open as Darren's coming to let him in. Boom, hits him in the head, knocks him out. He's out the next game. blood everywhere.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Blood everywhere. That's what he says. Best day turned to a worst day for that guy. I wonder what he was doing when the kick six happened today. I never thought I'd see that in the NFL. Only kicker that really had a bad day today. And it was a good day to have a bad day as a kicker. If you're going to have a bad day as a kicker,
Starting point is 00:31:51 be Josh Lambo and have a bad day as a kicker because nobody's watching that game and all the other kickers were like, we got this. He missed two extra points. Taylor's looking for a new kicker in Jacksonville. So we've got to park the Lambo, unfortunately. But the guy had a hip surgery last year. Got a lot of mileage on him.
Starting point is 00:32:07 It's a tough scene out there. Taylor called the Jaguars a very bad team on Twitter. Hey, one Tyler Campbell was in the Jags pool today. No way. Yeah, we got, we got to ask him how it went.
Starting point is 00:32:18 We know a guy who's been in the Jags pool. Who spent the day in the Jags pool. Well, we know a couple of them. What a questionable life decision. But a real person that spent a day in the Jags pool. Wow. They pumped that thing full of so much chlorine.
Starting point is 00:32:34 It's probably incredible. We should ask them about it virtually. We should. Hey, do you remember we said, we were talking about Virginia Wake Forest in the total? Yeah. And I said the over, but there's no proof. And I didn't make the pod. You know, I heard it did get cut, but just for the people.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Well, because it was a big confusion. You said the over would hit. Yeah. And I said the under, the under hit. And we said loser would drink a warm beer in the open of the next show. Oh, we did? Did we? I happen to have right here a warm beer.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Here. Jesus Christ, dude. I was so drunk last night, dude. Are you serious? Tattoo on his... I was incredibly drunk last night. What do you call your side? What's your side called?
Starting point is 00:33:18 My rib cage? Yeah. You're just a man of honor is what you are. Yeah, you're damn right. I'm gonna drink this fucking warm-ass beer. I hope the born-on date. What is this? I was really drunk last night.
Starting point is 00:33:30 This could send me into like a toxic shock. I mean, is there not going to be a... No, I'm going to be a... No, I'm going to be a... No, I'm going to drink it. Is there not going to be a nightcap tonight? No, it's going to be a nightcap, too. This is a little warm-up.
Starting point is 00:33:41 No, I think maybe this is a... Talk to the people about the beer. This is a water boys. This is brewed at Champion Brewery. Shout out to Hunter and the team there. Yeah, here goes nothing. Here goes a warm beer that I forgot that I wagered. You know, and go ahead.
Starting point is 00:33:56 I have a brother named Hunt, and people often ask if his full name's Hunter. Now, that would be mighty cruel because that first and last name would probably. It's so warm, dude. I couldn't chuck that here. It's so warm. It's so warm, dude. How far did we get? Like a third of the way.
Starting point is 00:34:14 But not, it's just hunt. That's it. That's where the name stops. Okay. Well done by you. Deleted. I just. Backspace on that beer.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Yeah. Not without incident. 54 points scored. Overunder was 69, 68 and a half. I'm going to try to go on with the pod now. Okay. I feel disgusting after that. that. My goodness.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Sorry, man. Don't be. Hey, one thing about that Rams game. Yeah. Did you notice? They did a split screen of a good TV show and a bad TV show. Basically, they went Larry David, then they went Jason Sadeakis, like, and hey, no shade, Jason Sadekis is the man, but this show, not doing it for me. Ted Lassow, I don't know if you've heard. Yeah, he made it 15 minutes for the first episode. So, but literally two, two shows that, like, it was like Larry, Jason. and it couldn't be any more polar opposites
Starting point is 00:35:11 in my like entertainment index. Two like Mount Rushmore characters. They're both awesome, but I'm talking about the shows, not the actors. Larry from Curb Your Enthusiasm and Ted Lasso from Ted Lasso, two great characters. No, not so. Let's talk to Jeff Schwartz. After years of fine print contracts and getting ripped off by big wireless providers,
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Starting point is 00:36:50 So Jeff Schwartz is joining us, our guy. He's our guy now. Good. Thank you. Make, do you think he's our guy? Yeah, no, for sure he's our guy. What a freaking day. I want to talk about the Kansas City, L.A. game earlier. Yes. I know you were glued to that, but let's talk about the other L.A. team, the Rams. I'm looking at this game and I'm saying to myself, you know, the last year, you remember them getting beat twice by the Saints? The team you knew they'd have to see. This feels like the team you know you're going to have to see this year, and they come up short in a big way.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Is this a fixable problem? What is the problem as you see it? Is it personnel? Is it scheme? Can they fix it like last year? Well, I mean, I would imagine that the best way to fix it is not let the Rams wide receivers run wide open all over the field. I mean, right?
Starting point is 00:37:42 That was a thing that we saw them have to deal with last year at certain times. And then the back half of the season, the defense just really jelled together and didn't have those statements. They have a couple injuries along that front, not the front, but in the back end of the secondary that's hurt them a little bit. But I just think it's again, you're going to run into a busside every now and then. And that was the Rams today. They're at home. They're juiced up. Tampa hasn't lost in forever. And they're going to get everyone's best shot no matter what. And they just lost today. It happens. And I don't think this is indicative of a math that might happen in January, right?
Starting point is 00:38:16 I mean, people are going to look at this, say, hey, you know, no way the Bucks can come back to L.A. and beat the, you know, beat the Rams in the championship game. Oh, yes, they can't. And if you bet against Tom Brady in the playoffs, you're a fool. So I would say that it's a great win for the Rams. I don't think, you know, people are going overboard with the Matt Stafford stuff, in my opinion, like, the guys are wide open.
Starting point is 00:38:37 It's Jared Gaffeyer wide open guys, too, right? Like, come on. Sometimes, yeah. Like, that's a guy fair sometimes. But like, you know, Deshawn Jackson running full speed down the sidelines, he's done that his entire life, right? And so I think I think that McVeigh's doing a good job. There's definitely a confidence in the offense that we have not seen in a while. And that plays that plays well.
Starting point is 00:38:58 You can see that happening on the field, right? They're confident that their quarterback can get them out of bad spots. No matter what's happening in the game, their quarterback can be the guy. And it showed on Sunday it was impressive. So, you know, great win for them. You know, if Tom Brady's done 55 times, probably not, probably not what you want. But does it change kind of how I think a playoff game would go between these teams? Probably not right now.
Starting point is 00:39:23 We're still in week three. There's an extra week this year. These guys have 14 games left. They're getting together. Yes. Like there's so much football left that making like sweeping judgments just after. So we can't count the jets out. No, we can count them out there officially.
Starting point is 00:39:42 I think you, I saw a statatee, the New York teams, like, their record in September the last four years is like they've won like one game, two games total, the two New York teams. That's bad. Really bad. As bad as the Bucks run game? I mean, what are we doing about that? Rojo, five carries.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Furnett, four carries. Tom Brady's your leading rusher three for 14. Chris Godwin won for a touchdown. That's not the blueprint either. Here's there. Jets and Giants, I mean, they closed the month combined 0 and 6. Or the past 10 seasons, the New York teams are 20 and 49 in September. Jeez. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:23 I just laid them up for Tampa Bay run game and he died. I mean, they didn't. He stuck the knife in you. Yeah, but you know what? You guys lost it. That's good, right? That's what the Giants let you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Jeff, a giant for life. a giant for life. We're after that number one draft pick. Am I, yeah, don't you have like a top, you have the Bears picked here or something? Whose other pick do you have? Oh. Whatever it is, they'll draft that impressive defensive end and some other position player and just toil and obscurity for five to seven years. That's the Justin Fields pick. They jumped up to the giant spot.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Here's the thing about the giants. It's very simple, right? It's time to update what you do. Yeah. Like I said, from the top, the very top, right? enough of the Giants Way has worked. It's no longer working. They're 18 and 49 since 2017. The worst record in the NFL in that time.
Starting point is 00:41:19 What you're doing is not working. So if you want to change and you want to be better as a football franchise, you need to clean house. That's everyone, scouting department, general manager, coach, and start over with a more modern approach to football. They're stuck in the past. And it worked in the past. It does not work.
Starting point is 00:41:38 anymore. You're not recurring that giant's magic from 2011 and in 2007. Not happening. So if you can adapt, you can be something in a couple of years, but if you're going to continue to kind of do it your own way, it's not going to work anymore. Talking about the Chargers, big win today. I love me some Chargers. That's my side team, of course, and I also bet the Chargers, you know. Same. Yeah, I mean. Are you guys at all concerned for turnovers to zero and you only win the ball game by six points. Well, I think they create those turnovers. I think that they have a way of creating
Starting point is 00:42:14 an impatient Patrick Mahomes. I mean, he can be impatient anyways, but some of these throws he makes are just like fuck it. They're like fuck it because either no one's opener, I've had to I've had to play Inchworm the whole game. If you can make Kansas City convert 30 first downs to score 30 points in a game, like that's not bad, dude.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I don't know, Jeff. You know, this team as well as anybody, Kansas City, with Mitch playing there and with the way you've kind of broken them down in the past, like, on the offensive side of the ball, is this blueprint easily you know, duplicated? Can everybody just play? Like, hey,
Starting point is 00:42:52 too high shell and just like keep everything in front of you. I mean, it sounds simple, but the Chargers seem to have a little bit of a number on them. That's what team started doing last year, right? Playing too high force and the Chiefs to run the football. And in this game, the Chiefs actually ran the football pretty well. It's the best they'd run the ball all season. And they committed to run the
Starting point is 00:43:08 ball more than they had in previous games, even with the Clyde Edwards Hiller Fumble. But it really is kind of simple, right? They've had 11 possessions the last two games. They've turned it over in five of the 11 possessions, including the last possession of the Ravens game, and then four times this week and the end of the last possession of this game with the Hail Mary, which is, it's so funny, man, both receivers got tackled. Tyree Kil and Travis Kelts on the Hail Mary, but I'm kind of with like the no calling of anything in the Hail Mary, because you call anytime you want.
Starting point is 00:43:35 It's a shit show. It's a total shit show. They're literally tackled. And so here's my thing with the chiefs. And first of all, credit the Chargers. The Chargers have won two games this year that haven't won the past, right? At Washington in this game that they found multiple ways to lose, right? Touchtown called back.
Starting point is 00:43:50 They decided go for it on fourth and four, which is the right call because their kicker can't make a kick. Right. Fall start, fourth and nine, convert anyways, right? They just made a bunch of plays. I mean, they hadn't done the past. But here's my thing with the Chiefs is their margin for error now is much smaller. It used to be, okay, we're playing kind of shitty. Mahomes just save us.
Starting point is 00:44:11 And we'll get a big sack or force a turnover. They can't rush the passer anymore, right? Frank Clark is the worst contract maybe in all pro sports. He's not playing, and when he does play, he's not very good. The guys they've tried to draft and develop and sign up for industry have not panned out. Chris Jones is still good, but he's the only one, right? They're plugging with defensive end now. Yeah, which I like that sparingly.
Starting point is 00:44:33 I mean, maybe they're trying to major in that and that kind of throws the balance up. they feel like they have a better depth inside than outside. And so trying to find a way to, to like to get him an opportunity to rush on the edge, basically, because they don't have anyone else. Yeah. They've no one else. They trust.
Starting point is 00:44:51 But, you know, but the Ravens took advantage of that and just, just options in every single play, which is not what he's good at. So nonetheless, you know, they're young at linebacker. Their secondary is not bad, though, but the divas play much better this week.
Starting point is 00:45:04 But offensively, look, they have five new offense alignment. I like their offensive lineman, right? Yeah. But their two tackles are downgraded from Eric Fisher and my brother. There's no, there's no doubt about it. And then the young guys inside, no Joe Tuny is not young, but Creed and Trey, they're young, but they're playing well. But it might take some time for all five guys to kind of work together. They're not playing bad, by the way.
Starting point is 00:45:23 They're just maybe not what hasn't been expected to be in the best. I think eventually the left tackles and upgrade, eventually. I'm not sold on Brown that offense. It's just not what he does best. but we'll see as the season goes on if he gets more comfortable in there. And another thing, and Tony Romo talked about this a lot
Starting point is 00:45:41 on the telecast is they've never really had a number two wide receiver threat. They've had Sammy Watkins went healthy. How about they miss Sammy Watkins so much? A healthy Sammy Watkins. When he was healthy, he helped him win the Super Bowl, right? He was an extra option for them.
Starting point is 00:45:55 They don't have that right now. So teams are doubling Kelsey, the doubling Hill, and then they're just saying, hey, okay, Byron Pringle, McColl Hardiman, DeMarx Roberts, and go beat us, and they just can't do it. And so they try to get juju this year, right? They try to get other guys.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Everyone said no to them. You know, they should have signed Melvin Ingram as well. But that didn't happen. I think he visited, but he went to Pittsburgh, obviously. Oh, that could have been great for them stealing a guy in the division like that. It just never really, it never happened. And so the margin for error is just smaller. But saying all that, they lost a game on a fumble that they just don't fumble,
Starting point is 00:46:33 they just don't fumble, they can feel going win. Yeah. And they lost the game with four turnovers and it took a touchdown with seven seconds left to win the game. Like they're close to being good again. No question. I mean, they're on the edge of being the chiefs. But I also don't feel like that same like take it to the bank dominance exists this year. And I think like one of the hardest things about when your window is wide open, I'm not saying the window shut. I'm just saying they had this like, hey, you're the favorite window, like unquestionably. I feel like that period's ending a little bit. I'm not overreacting. I'm not overreacting. I'm I'm just calling it what it is. Like you talked about the offensive line. There were fixtures that are gone. The pass rush is depleted. So even if you try to make a late run like they've made in the past and get good in December and January,
Starting point is 00:47:16 if you can't rush the passer, I worry about you. So I'm not saying Mahomes's windows close. Mahomes' windows are going to be open for 15 years. Yeah. But this particular team, I feel like, you know, there's a little bit of a, hey, if we win, it's going to be a lot more interesting than it's been in the past. Yeah, and look, we saw a little bit of that last year.
Starting point is 00:47:34 because as we went gambling, they didn't cover. They haven't covered, like, a game. All these, they're one-score games. They're one-score games. And last year, we attributed to the fact of, like, they just got bored, right? They're up 30 to 10 in a game, and they win 33-27. It's like, we just kind of got bored. But maybe that was a kind of an inkling of, like, maybe we're just not as good
Starting point is 00:47:52 as we used to be at finishing games. And they obviously have not been so far this season. But the Chiefs are going to do a good job now of just restocking talent, right? Travis Kelsey is getting a little older. Terry Kill is getting a little older. Can you find guys that you draft and develop, can you find the right for agents? But by all means, they don't think the season is over for them. No.
Starting point is 00:48:11 There are strong teams in the AFC. Buffalo looks really good again. Cleveland, obviously, they just beat. So there's teams that they have to worry about chargers and Raiders. Raiders are 3-0. I'm still not quite sure about the Raiders. I'm not sure about the Raiders, but I did. I said some nice things to say about them earlier in the pot.
Starting point is 00:48:27 I'm not saying that the Chiefs are down. I'm just saying that it's not going to be as effortless as they've made it. look in the past and because of a lot of the issues that have nothing to do with Patrick Mooms although they manifest in him saying fuck it and throwing the ball in the air a couple times a game because he's frustrated and those do count the turnover you know column and here is the thing for me about the charges man and I'm biased like first they overcame themselves you talk about that the fourth and four you know you're like not again the fourth and nine there was another illegal shift on on a touchdown that could call back I believe
Starting point is 00:48:59 yes but the balls on uh on that coach Brandon Staley. I mean like you know, Randy Marsh. He's got wheelbarrow balls right now because I think he came into the game and was like, hey, we're not just going to try to beat these guys. We're going to try to show them. We're absolutely not afraid of them. Like right down to throwing the fade with, you know, 30 seconds left and saying, fuck it. I'm not, I'm not worried about leaving them too much time. Like we're just going to, we're going to score and win and play defense. And I feel like if you're the chiefs, seeing that indivision, you're like, oh shit, we got to see them again. and they're really not afraid of us.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Like that's a nice statement to make your first time playing the top dogs in division. It definitely is. But I like the aggressive nature because when you play Kansas City, you have to score points. You have to score points all the time. And we set up for field goals, which Cleveland hasn't done yet,
Starting point is 00:49:52 with Baltimore hasn't done yet, the charges haven't done yet, you're going to lose the game. Yeah. And look, the Chiefs have also played the Browns, the Ravens and Chargers, three playoff teams, right? They get the Eagles now. Then they get the bills.
Starting point is 00:50:04 It would be a good game. That's at home. Then Washington, Tennessee, Giants. I mean, they have a couple games. You know,
Starting point is 00:50:10 look, they got the Packers. Like, they have like eight tough schedules because they're the number one team and that crossover game is pretty good. It's probably, Tray Lance was put in on,
Starting point is 00:50:19 on, uh, that's good for the under. No, it's not. They scored touchdown. Oh, no. Yeah. 17 and a half time.
Starting point is 00:50:26 I thought there might be a little adjustment period there. Awful. Ter Lance came in, uh, with, with a ball at a two-yard line two seconds left in the first half and they ran a he kept the ball on like a red on a sorry about your under man hey um no i mean beyond that you you mentioned the bills i mean remember
Starting point is 00:50:42 the bills last year the the whole thing about the bills playing them in the playoffs i don't think they were going to beat them anyways but to have a chance you can't kick field goals and another thing from that game the reason sacks are such a dumb stat to watch on sundays is joey bosa didn't have 13 in this football game. I mean, he was absolutely dominant. Vintage, Joey Bosa, he was hurt, he was hobbled, but he was disruptive as hell. And in fact, on one of the picks, they got to keep it back into Chip. You know, Pat has one less guy out in the, out in the route. He has no safety blanket underneath, and he's like, fuck it, you know? So, you know, Joey changes the game in a big way. Speaking of sacks, we had the sack bowl, I feel like, today. How many sacks in that game, 11?
Starting point is 00:51:26 The Browns, I think, had seven. I counted seven. I wrote about that game a little bit, and so I think I count seven for the, for the, 14, 14 sacks overall, including two by one Jadavia and Clowny. So everybody was getting buckets today. Jeff, what is the most sacks you've seen at one time? I mean, I was in a locker room. It was 53 guys. 52.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Well, I see my, see my own too. Oh, 53, 53. Yeah, so 53. I mean, but there's eight practice squad guys. I used to be eight Bryce one. The I-N-R guys are sometimes in a locker room. Sometimes it depends on the day. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Sometimes coach is going to lock room. No, we don't. What are the, it's not at all the discussion about sacks, but almost awkward things at times is when there's only one shower in the visiting locker room, so the coach had to share the shower with you, and you see your coach has all these tattoos
Starting point is 00:52:22 and you just did not know they had. Oh, yeah, like a barbed wire or a tramp stamp from the early 90s. I saw one coach at a Tasmanian, on his ass. Yes, dude, like a total, a total NFL coach tattoo from the 90s, a Tasmanian devil.
Starting point is 00:52:37 And you're just like, you know, you change a different locker rooms in, but like the one time of year, the living locker room is a, is a, is a crusty place. There's one shower.
Starting point is 00:52:46 One area of shower. You're like, oh, shit. But yeah, there's no good way to tell a teammate, a nice sack out there today after the game sitting at your locker in a towel. So I wasn't part of it,
Starting point is 00:52:58 but my office, Coach Kansas City, Andy Heck, you should talk about, because he was on the Seahawks, the game that Derek Thomas, I think, had like, what, seven sacks and eight sacks. And he was on the offensive line for the Seahawks. And so he's talked about that game with us in the offensive line room. I mean, I've allowed, I had a game where allowed one full sack and two half sack. That's pretty bad. It feels like three.
Starting point is 00:53:21 So my offensive line coach gave me three because he didn't want, because he didn't want to give Jordan all of them. Like, Jordan and I, both our D. like met the quarterback twice and he just gave him to me. Oh, you got to love it when they take care of their guys. Yeah, I was young and I didn't play very well that game, so I took it. Can they help Justin Fields in protection, or is this just how it's going to be? Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Why is Matt Nagy consider a good offensive coach? Is he? Is he? I looked up today. His DVOA for his offenses in Chicago have been 2025 and 25. Hey. And the offense looked like they called an offense. for a quarterback that cannot move.
Starting point is 00:54:00 They did not move him out of the pocket at all almost. There was no RPO's. There was no bootlegs. There was no move the pocket. There was enough screens. It was deep pass concepts. Like get the ball. There was no, you know, there was no empty throw the ball as soon as possible stuff
Starting point is 00:54:19 happening, right? Like they just didn't help anyone. And when no one's open, you have a predictable offense and you have a pass rush like that. your quarterback is going to get in trouble. And so I just blame Nagy for not, just not doing enough to help his quarterback, like just his offense. And I just, nagy to me is going to fail Justin Fields. I'm looking forward to ready to seeing him with someone else next year.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Yeah, listen, I blame Twitter because Twitter.com made this happen. Twitter.com talked all about, we want Justin Fields right now. I'm like, you, it's bad for Justin Fields to see Justin Fields. right now. Like, I don't think you understand. Like, there's no need. It's not going to make him any better. Well, I think a lot of us hope that, you know, that if, if he got in there, the offense would change. And that's silly of us to think that because one of the complaints I heard from players with Chicago, with Trubisky was like, negative ever changed the offense for him. Like, he just, we just, you know, Trubisky was limited. But we didn't see what limited offense is.
Starting point is 00:55:27 QB, right? You play a pass a bunch, your bootleg, you move, you move them out in the pocket a little bit, giving them these RPO's and so just Negi just designed an offense that was just not ideal this weekend. Browns were 31st against the pass. Yeah, they weren't good, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Yeah, that's not good. That's not good. And he put up what they call that, Bishop Sycamore numbers, Justin Fields. 60-A yard. Yeah, he was like six to 20 or something like that. Hey, I'll tell you what, I did like those unies, those Browns unies, the numbers, they look elite. They look elite.
Starting point is 00:56:03 That was the prettiest thing about that game outside of the sacks. Is it interesting when the Brown's offense, you know, just when the run game wasn't quite as good as it had been in the past, the offense is just not as good, right? I mean, Mayfield just, I still worry about kind of him being good enough if things just kind of aren't right to be the guy. Where do you put Justin Herbert in top five? Top seven? Top seven? If you're drafting quarterbacks right now, obviously, with his age, it's going to be higher. But, you know, if you want somebody, you know, on a Sunday to win your football game, you know, you need a big drive.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Where are you putting him? I mean, he's got to be up there, right? You have obviously you want, you want Mahomes, you want Brady, you want Rogers. you know Russell will you still want Russell Wilson up there is Russell Wilson ahead of Herbert I think you want Russell Wilson up there so Russell Wilson's four um who would who would be next to that group it's a big ledge I feel like I'm sure we're forgetting somebody but I feel like Justin Herbert flirts with the top five then we're on to like Josh Allen Lamar Jackson yeah Josh Allen is up there we forgot Josh Allen I'm taking Justin Herbert over Lamar yeah what about like a Matt Stafford
Starting point is 00:57:19 Tyler Murray, Matt Stafford. I just don't, Arizona to me, Kingsbury is, he's a terrible coach the end of the season. You can go back to the times at Texas Tech. And they beat the Vikings. They should have lost that game. They beat the Jaguars. So I think us three could be competitive against Jaguars right now. Do we get tort all?
Starting point is 00:57:39 Of course. I have, I told you, we have a whole supply at the house. Good. Matt Ryan, Ben Rothesberger. Okay. My dudes, you know, a lot of respect for these quarterbacks. obviously, I think probably their organizations have a lot of respect for him. But you know the writing's on the wall.
Starting point is 00:57:55 You know it's over. And I know it's really ugly seeing Ben operate up there in Pittsburgh right now. You know, Matt's on his last leg. In Atlanta, this is a transitional period. So, like, what do you make of these teams, you know, immediate futures at the position and then, like, the intermediate futures? It was pretty funny. I saw there was a report that came out this morning, right?
Starting point is 00:58:17 like Steelers brass concerned that Big Ben looks old and it's like yeah no shit they have the TV as well I was like we all told you this heading in the season like the reason why I was off the Steelers this year and why I bet them to not make the playoffs is because of Big Ben he looked old last year yeah and most quarterbacks who look old and play old continue to play all the next season you know everyone points to Tom Brady Tom Brady didn't look bad in New England he had no one to throw to you The offense was just kind of a mess. Big Ben cannot move. There's that video out today.
Starting point is 00:58:52 I don't have to wait too hard. He's just rolling to his right and he just falls down. Like he shows over a blade of grass. Like, he just eats it. Like he can't move. Their offensive line is young and just has kind of their ups and downs right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:04 The draft of running back in the first round for no apparent reason because he had 19 targets today, Denaghi Harris. So their biggest thing is they just have to get a quarterback this offseason. And now if it's in the draft or in for agency, I think the pieces are fine. Like Mike Tomlin's a good coach, though, right? They still, they have some injuries on the defensive line. Okay, so everyone, you know, you get everyone back next year.
Starting point is 00:59:26 But the Bengals are better now, obviously. The Browns are better. Ravens just, this is a weird year for them, I think, with everything that's happening with their injuries. They're just kind of just a mess right now. But they won again, right? And that game was always going to be good. So for them, it's that simple.
Starting point is 00:59:40 For Atlanta, it's just, you're going to have to draft a guy, right? I mean, you hope, I'd imagine great win today, I guess, but you hope you don't win very much, right? during the position to draft the guy early. But this draft class is not that great for quarterback, I don't think, right now. It's not looking, it's not looking like it has been the last couple of years. How about Matt Ryan playing spoiler for his own franchise, dude? Yeah, like, I would imagine that he, that they're not, I mean, they're happy they won, obviously,
Starting point is 01:00:07 but like Arthur Blanks probably like, yeah, in the end, it would have been okay. Arthur Blanks patting Matt Ryan on the shoulder extra hard as he's going through the lunch line after the game and grabbing some some takeout food before he gets on the bus like great win ow that really hurt yeah great yeah great win buddy but look the the story here is the giants right i mean just they're just they lost the falcons at home the falcons yeah not good it's not good war is good depending on what you what you what you went out of your new york giants i'm not even sure that yeah but is giants fans are i mean they're prideful they don't want their teeth no not this one not many giants Not many Giants fans I know actually root for the team to lose.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Not this one. Listen, we do a Thursday night time machine thing here where we guess the score of the Thursday night football game. A couple Thursdays ago, you know the Dexter Lawrence situation. Well, that outcome ensured that making won the prediction segment. And he said to me in a text message that he roots first for this segment, second for the Giants. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 01:01:10 So, yeah, he's a pragmatist. But you guys are right. Spencer Rattler, Malik Will's. I'm not hearing great. Malik Will's would be fun. Ole Miss. Sam Hal, Carolina. So Will Levin's from Kentucky.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Brennan Armstrong, just UVA, just leave the Wake Forest game out of it. Hey, screen on 4th and 10 today for the Steelers. That's what I want to leave you. It got like minus one too, right? It wasn't even close. Yeah, that's ugly. Jeff Schwartz,
Starting point is 01:01:41 appreciate you. Where can people find you? Podcast, Jeff Schwartz is smarter than you at Twitter as well at Jeff Schwartz. And I've got an article coming out in the next couple of days with some panic index for some teams.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Most of them we talked about. You just said it's week three. He's writing a panic index article. You slide on. We've an 0 and 3 Giants team. We have a 1 and 2 senior team. Panic. Dude, the Seahawks have been
Starting point is 01:02:07 outscored the second half this year. Panic. Don't panic. Panic. You want to, if you're serious about winning a Super Bowl in Seattle, just panic because it ain't happening. You know that the best thing to write on a Monday is fear. Right? Panic and fear and desperation.
Starting point is 01:02:23 No question. And I love that you're doing God's work, so I can't wait to see it. Jeff Schwartz, appreciate you, man. Take care, bud. See you. Twitter, we got our shit together, okay? We got a real handle reflective of the name of, of the podcast guys we did it applaud and now go follow us at green light twitter is at green light
Starting point is 01:02:48 we also have a new youtube channel name as well green light tube hope you guys like that gargers have taken the victory in kansas city 30 to 24 hey you know what would annoy me bed bugs being a D-Lyman on the damn bucks you're the best pass rush team in the league and your coach likes to blitz like every other play now i don't know what the numbers were today but you know after the game when your coach is like we need to do a better job of getting home he's talking to the rushers right you got to let us rush man four man those guys plenty good you don't need to bring extra bodies they got burnt today in the blitz burnt i think uh the Deshawn bomb they were heating up Matt Stafford.
Starting point is 01:03:41 I mean, a lot of uncharacteristic mistakes by them today. I mean, Levanti David picked his own player on one of the Deshawn crossing routes late in the game. They were just frustrated. I kind of like what Jeff has to say. The point is, we've seen this movie before with this very team last year, so I don't want to panic about the fact that they couldn't beat an NFC opponent. They just have to get a fix.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Put it to bet. Are you referring to Deshawn Jackson? He of the 120 yards receiving? Yeah, dude. The tutty? The guy can still run. He's going to be like Darryl Green out there. Darryl Green, they say, could still run like a 4-4 at, you know, 50 years old or something.
Starting point is 01:04:16 How old do you think Deshaun is? Deshawn? He's probably 34 years old. I love it when you repeat the question. You're right. Yeah. December 1st, 1986. Younger than both of us.
Starting point is 01:04:24 That's right. I would hope so because if he was older, I would feel even slower than I do now. The Kansas City, L.A. little rivalry. This is going to be good, man, for years to come. Does it feel a little Oh yeah Manning Brady-ish? Yeah, in Division
Starting point is 01:04:40 The year's 20-50 Who's got more Super Bowl rings? Mahomes or Herbert? I got some good news for you Yeah, we'll be dead. Nobody's going to be pulling this tape I hope we're not dead Are we dead?
Starting point is 01:04:56 I don't know. It's the long time. It'll be like 60, 65. Yeah, I played in the NFL, look it up. Oh. Anyways. We will remember you fondly,
Starting point is 01:05:04 my friend. No, it's just, you know, I don't want to overreact to the window closing thing but Tom Brady hit on all his opportunities and that's not an indictment on Patrick because I think Patrick has as Jeff outlined some
Starting point is 01:05:15 real issues at receiver the you know the defense isn't great all the complimentary things that were there for Tom Brady so don't we're not even comparing the two players but what I am saying from a standpoint of stack and rings Brady got his early he got him when he could and the chiefs they could have three or four right now a lot of teams throughout history have said that end up with one ring I hope that's not the case with Patrick Mahomes. But yeah, you can see kind of now that this little team, the window might be a little bit closer to being closed than it was. And I want to be real clear what I'm saying here.
Starting point is 01:05:52 I'm not saying Patrick Mahomes' window is closing. I'm not saying Andy Reid's window is closing. But that team that was so dominant the past few years here, it just might not be quite the same. The window might be a little bit more shut, which means it's going to be a little bit more of a struggle. It also might be September. You're my gambling uncle.
Starting point is 01:06:13 At one and two, heading into week four, I reckon that's the time to place a bet on the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl? Probably. Because they have a nice little cushion. It's kind of like a reverse me betting on the Phillies after they go on a 10-game win streak.
Starting point is 01:06:26 That backfired. No, they're like two games out unless something changed since Saturday. Yeah, the problem is not many games left to go. Oh, there's a lot of games. There's like a week of games. Yeah, we're good. and the last series is Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:06:37 The Phillies are six-back in the wild card. No, no, no, not in the wild card. Talking about the division. Oh, the division. Yeah. Damn, you're up on your MLB. Yeah, jokes on you, Batman. Hell yeah, it is two and a half.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Focus on some American teams for once. A Braves, wow. Two and a half. And we play the Braves, I believe we. You see me do the we thing? My bad. I did the we thing. We're in, dude.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Go fails. Ring the bell, all that stuff. We, the Js are one and a half of the wild card. Oh. Man, that's going to be tight. What a week we have ahead of us. We got a big week. I can't wait for all this baseball.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Dongs. Sacks. From sacks to dons. Sacks to dons. That's what we call a segue. Let's segue into mentions. Nothing like mentions on a Monday. Monday mentions.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Yeah, best plane ride. Yeah, I would say Atlanta. Here's the thing. I know you're thinking like who cares, but sometimes on a bad team, the who cares flights are the best ones. Especially for like a Matt Ryan, who, if you're,
Starting point is 01:07:35 you're sitting here, we just talked about it, he's getting ready to, you know, right off in the sunset in some capacity, whether he's going to be a guy who plays his last year is out on some weird team, you know? Or, uh, this could be one of his last couple in Atlanta and it could be his last couple altogether, but whatever it is, he's soaking it up. You know what I mean? Like, you don't know how many of these wins you get legitimately the rest of your career in Atlanta. And that's not to say it was impressive. They won 17 and 14 against your Giants. By the way, once more congratulations.
Starting point is 01:08:07 You guys found a way to lose that game. Thank you. Yeah. None taken. But Matt Ryan has got to be a guy who has great respect of all his teammates. They probably know he's on his way out. It's a bittersweet kind of farewell tour because it's not going to be extravagant. It's not going to be like he's going to get.
Starting point is 01:08:24 I tell you exactly what it is. What? It's something unpredictable. But in the end is right. Yeah. I hope he had the time of his life. He probably did. He probably did.
Starting point is 01:08:35 He's graduating. But, you know, those plane rides can be fun. When you suck and you get a win, you know, there's not going to be a lot of those coming. And, you know, Arthur Blanks probably, like as we said earlier, like, hey, pump the brakes, fellas, a little bit. Probably a good plane ride. I don't know. What's say you? I'm going to go bad to start, man.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Football team. Yeah, football team is bad. I mean, we thought maybe the football team was good. And it turns out now. Never really in it in Buffalo Lose 4321 They're one and two Somebody this week
Starting point is 01:09:08 And the NFC East will be two in one Philly and Dallas on Monday night And Heineke for how much longer We don't know Up next you're Atlanta Falcons But then Saints,
Starting point is 01:09:21 Chiefs, Packers, Broncos Bucks You hear that? Yeah I mean it could be two in five Two and six in a hurry Their schedule is the reason I only flirted
Starting point is 01:09:31 And this would be With or without Fitzpacons but I only flirted with taking the total over, win total that is. Like, they're just, this is going to be a halacious run for them. We really could have a Dallas and Philly race for the division. I don't know, but I know that this team is probably not, you know, the way they're set up right now,
Starting point is 01:09:51 the way the D-line hasn't really made that impact that we all expect them to make. You know, Josh Allen, we talked about week one, pressure with four, okay, Pittsburgh, got after them, that's the blueprint. Well, it sounds simple. but Washington couldn't do it and they're supposed to have the best one
Starting point is 01:10:07 you know in the entire league Josh Allen looks great silver lining for those guys some of them likely live in Virginia they're coming home to beautiful weather cashburn here in the mid-Atlantic it's about turn
Starting point is 01:10:19 Taylor Heineke's about turned into a pumpkin I think it's about midnight on our boy so as you said I don't know who it's going to be down the stretch but he does not look like the same guy you saw in the playoff game last year he tried to make the football team great again. He did not.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Your worst flight? My worst flight? The Colts. This team is done. I don't want to overreact in week three, but... Our division winner. That was my division winner. It was your division winner. I can admit when I'm wrong. I don't think that... I don't think they have enough
Starting point is 01:10:55 to make Carson look like he needs to look to win that division. I mean, I just don't see it right now. For them to be an inchworm type team, like in between the 20s, they have to be really good in the red zone. And they have been quite the opposite. Like, it is becoming a running joke at this point. They went on a drive today. I want to say for like 15 plays and one of the announcers was saying none of the plays other than one, save for one, a Moalley Cox reception went for over six yards. And I believe this was a drive
Starting point is 01:11:28 that Carson Wentz missed Michael Pittman in the end zone. And so this is like, this is the quintessential cult sequence this year. And if they don't change it, they're never going to be any good because if you're not explosive and you're not good in the red zone, you're not going to score a lot, and you can't keep pace with teams,
Starting point is 01:11:46 like even the Titans. So bad day for them. And I think they know damn well, what I know, and that's that it's, you know, they're not a good enough team to spot the league free games.
Starting point is 01:11:57 17 plays 66 yards, 8 minutes, 34 seconds to start the third quarter. It's bad. It's bad. And here's what's really bad about it. When Frank and Carson were together in Philly, and it's a different era at this point, I mean, like, it's been years and the pieces are different and that sort of thing. Like, the offensive line is objectively bad, especially without Quentin Nelson in Indy.
Starting point is 01:12:19 And this isn't like an excuse for Carson because do I think he be better with a good offensive line? Yes, but he has to play like the guy that I've talked about, that other people have talked about, that he's shown he's capable of being at times. and he's got to play kind of above himself to succeed with that group in front of him and I don't think it's going to happen somebody said this to me
Starting point is 01:12:39 last spring, this spring and it really scared the shit on me when I heard it because it made a lot of sense I had to check the numbers they were like why does anybody think it's going to be better for Carson in Indy predicated on the fact that the O line was really bad
Starting point is 01:12:54 because of injuries in Philly as well as the weapons you have outside when Indies locking win rate was like worse than the Eagles last year or something to that effect. Like they weren't any better necessarily. What made you think it was going to be better for Carson and for the Colts? And I don't know that it is going to be better. But I will say this.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Vrable is a killer, man. Like to go for two there, if you remember that sequence, it put the ballgame at nine. So makes it two-score ballgame. not every coach is going to do that. He decides to do it, and that's where the game is over. And the reason he felt so emboldened to do that, I'm sure, I mean, I think he would do it anyways, but he definitely wants to do it against the Colts.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Because the two-possession ballgame against them, that's going to take 30 minutes for them to score twice. 30 minutes. So as soon as he did that, the ball game was over, and we didn't even know it. And there was a point at the end of the game where they kicked the field goal to go up nine again, and you said, this is it.
Starting point is 01:13:58 It's over. He's not quite Randy Marsh. That's Brandon Staley. But it was balzy. Best plane ride for me, the New Orleans Saints. Fantasy darling Marquez. No question. Calloway finally finds Patert.
Starting point is 01:14:18 One of my bets was for Taysam Hill to be the first touchdown score for the New Orleans Saints. He was the last touchdown score for the Saints. And 28 to 13 wins. Almost. Almost in Foxborough. A lot of bets, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:30 One in 14th. but the best part for these guys, one would think, is that the Saints charter flight is off the ground and bound for New Orleans. They're set to land in the Crescent City around 9 p.m. Central Time 28 days after evacuating God, 28 days later. Hurricane Ida. That's right.
Starting point is 01:14:50 I'd like to have been gone just two weeks, maybe. When's the longest you've been away from home? Me? Yeah. By yourself another half second. I thought it was working. Who, me? No, I thought it was a rhetorical question.
Starting point is 01:15:02 It was so out of left field. It was not out of left field. We were talking about it. Longest I've ever been away from home? You? Hmm. I don't know for me. It's probably a Killy trip for you.
Starting point is 01:15:13 This podcast. That's a good one. I feel like this puts a damper on the Carolina win last week because we see how much different New Orleans is, like when they have their offensive coaches, when they're locked in, when they're healthy, when they're getting ready to go home to the big easy. Like, this was just more like them. Even though, you know, James Winston isn't spectacular, they're a well-coached football team.
Starting point is 01:15:42 They play defense. They've got one of the best backs in the game. And that's going to lead me to my fly on the wall, which is Bill Belichick ripping his team a new asshole. I've seen it. Seen it live. Seen it live. It's not pretty. And this is a tailor-made.
Starting point is 01:16:00 shut the doors close you know turn the lights off make sure every motherfucker that works in the building is in that meeting room and just scorched earth on he did it to brady and edelman you don't think he's going to do it to matthew judon or fucking mac jones like it is on like donkey cong and foxborough there are no windows in that building when you play sean payton who's the foremost offensive mind in my opinion in the NFL as far as like being a tenured cat Andy Reid outside of Andy Reed you think Sean Payton and you're supposed to be the godfather of defense of situational football and Sean's a great coach too now and you're both in the post like happy marriage long-term relationship stage where you know Sean moved on from Drew and Tom and and Bill broke up and like let's see what we're
Starting point is 01:16:50 working with now we're stripped you know bear here like coach versus coach and you get you get your butt kicked on the field like that, he's going to take it out on these guys. And I would love to see how ugly that meeting is going to be tomorrow. On top of that, at the end of the game, Sean Peyton, who's just thinking, let's get the hell out of here,
Starting point is 01:17:12 and, you know, I'm going to do it because I can, runs quarterback power eight, ten times in row with his favorite player, Taysam Hill. Do you know how bad that pissed bill off? I guarantee you. Like,
Starting point is 01:17:25 we are going to run. this till you stop it is like such an old school football coach thing especially in the run game especially against the team that prides itself and stopping the run ugly meeting okay so is bill uh is is he is he yelling or is he just mean he's really he doesn't have to really yell he's just yelling because the room is big it's a huge room so he's yelling because he has to reach everybody there's like people like you look up and there's you never seen some of these people in there that watching you just flounder on the field where the greatest coach of all time just lays bare all your mistakes and inefficiencies as a football player, your inadequacies,
Starting point is 01:18:09 and this was the wrong day. I mean, think about somebody like John Hussmith, who I think is a great player and I thought was going to be, and could still be a perfect patriot. He made some of the big mistakes today. He dropped the football that fell into Malcolm Jenkins' hand and went back for six. I mean, and Malcolm, by the way, his own the Patriots. I mean, it's not like he jumped a route there or anything. Ball fell right in his hands, but I think it's the second pick six against the Pats.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Bad, bad, bad, bad day. And I think, like, Peyton was mad at Jamis a little bit on the touchdown to Callaway. Suppose he was giving him a little icy glare because he forced the ball in. So both sides working some issues out, but McDaniels, he didn't have a great day. Belichick's probably mad Post Brady It's not as smooth as I drew it up this year for the Pats Post Brady with Brady coming into town
Starting point is 01:19:04 Yeah yeah it's good Think about that That is going to create This is like the perfect storm Hollow man I got a hollow man for you My guy Yeah your guy
Starting point is 01:19:15 Hollywood Brown Hollywood Hollow man He had a bad day man Okay he dropped like three balls They barely I mean They barely beat the lines They would have beat the shit
Starting point is 01:19:25 out of lines of Hollywood Brown didn't dip his hands in Vaseline before the game. The first ball looked like it attacked him, bro. And we all have bad days. Just receivers have really lonely bad days. So, great player, a guy who Lamar
Starting point is 01:19:41 depends on. Listen, they've done this stuff. They've, they've overcome Lowe's before. They'll be fine. Him and and Lamar will be fine, although they're probably sitting on the plane next to each other. And they're just kind of like watching the film. These, like, a situation like this, I think they're close enough. They probably talked right when they got off the field, you know, and they'll be fine,
Starting point is 01:20:05 but today was ugly, and it was ugly for fantasy owners. 33 and a half, up to 46 points, depending on what kind of league you play in. I know all those rules. PPR. PPR. I might have beaten, half PPR. I might have beaten Coach Wookie with those numbers. Didn't?
Starting point is 01:20:20 Yikes, you're losing the dick of stiffies. Yeah. Yeah. So you could have had 46 points today, if not for Hollywood Brown's drops. He had a case of the yips. Flight home is probably ugly. Could have gone up 17, nothing on one. It was just the Ravens.
Starting point is 01:20:37 This is one of those games where if you don't put teams away, they hang around. And I don't think the Ravens are good enough to toy with bad teams anymore. Like last year, I felt like they were a team. When you played a bad football team, and you were like a double-digit favorite, it. If you're betting on the Ravens to cover that spread, I always felt good about it. They were a team that covered big lines. This year, I don't
Starting point is 01:21:01 feel like they're that team as much, like where you automatically know that they're going to score 40 on somebody who run the option death, and Lamar's going to run for 130, and Mark Andrews, 15 catches. The same magic just doesn't quite exist. I know a week ago, we said they win the Super Bowl. I mean, they are
Starting point is 01:21:18 the type of team that if they get in, they get hot, sure. But I don't think because of this variability that they're going to put themselves in a great position to make a run like that. They haven't played well in the playoffs. And to be honest, I think home field advantage is how they probably have their best shot and a buy at getting to the big one. I don't feel like this is that team. Because if you look out there, it's a little bit unfair to Lamar. We had this conversation last week. It's such a stupid debate. Could he be better passing the football? I don't know. He's still pretty damn good at it. I mean, would you rather have,
Starting point is 01:21:52 Lamar or, you know, a bunch of other quarterbacks in the league. Like, I'd still rather have Lamar than most guys in the NFL. Drop off also from Mark Ingram with J.K. Dobbins in a supporting role. That's a big deal. Tison Williams and Latavius Murray. That's a big deal. That's what I was about to say.
Starting point is 01:22:08 Think about the guys. All right, throwing to Sammy Watkins. Villanueva is protecting his blindside. Okay? Murray is his running back. Like, it is a lost and found of pieces, dude. They haven't really like they haven't hit it out of the parking free agency.
Starting point is 01:22:25 They haven't drafted to help him. I'm not saying he's a god like some people would make him out to be. I'm not saying he owns football for the next 10 years. But let's call it what it is. This team is not great. And he has some limitations. And today his best receiver dropped three balls that would have gone for basically touchdowns.
Starting point is 01:22:46 So not their best game. But man, that kick was well worth the price of him. mission, just that kick, and they survived. Honorable mention, Hollow Man. Yeah. I'll be brief going down to the college ranks. Did you see Oregon coach Mario Cristobal lose his freaking mind after his freshman receiver, caught a ball, two-minute drill, trying to kick a field goal into the first half,
Starting point is 01:23:11 and he did the spin the ball thing and crossed his arms at the DB and got a 15-yard penalty? That's a taunt. That's a taunt. That's a taunt, but they don't have the NFL taunting rules. Like, it's hard to get a 15-yard or in college, harder. It's still fun. And he got it. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:23:25 I saw it. I didn't think, like, it was, he's an intense cat. He seemed like a good guy. That's fine. He didn't touch him. I was like, that's how you get really mad at a player and don't cross the line. You know, he didn't grab him by the shirt and yoke him up or shake his fucking face mask. Like, I think that player knew he was mad.
Starting point is 01:23:46 Yeah. That's coaching. Yep. Wait for the locker room or not. Showed him up a bit. Okay, all right It's the heat of the moment, man Coaches didn't
Starting point is 01:23:57 Here's my thing Coaches did not plan for there to be cameras Every damn place on the field Like that you could read the expressions These cameras on wires I remember the first time I ever saw One of those motherfuckers on a wire
Starting point is 01:24:09 I was like man, it's a brave new world And that has been 10, 15 years from now So if a player gets You know chewed out on the field It's probably going to be a bit of a show up Just don't put your hands on me Viewing party Yeah, viewing party.
Starting point is 01:24:23 For me, Detroit fans. If I were a fan in that Detroit Lions Stadium, Ford Field, Ford Field, the big concrete jungle that is Ford Field. They should call it the, hey, they should call it the F plus 250 because they're usually underdogs. I'm a gambling guy, like the Ford Field. That's not bad. It took a second to get there.
Starting point is 01:24:48 Zero to 60 and 10 seconds on that joke. The F plus 250. Fucking steal that, Rissillo. Jesus. You want to bullhorn the Detroit fans and say it's not that bad. It's not that bad. Relax. Like Aaron Rogers, relax.
Starting point is 01:25:05 Like, dude, Dan Campbell is at the very least competent. Like, by this point with Matt Patricia, let me do a bright side thing. At this point, with Matt Patricia, they were already like, hey, he doesn't get along with the players. Like, he's a little bit of too much of a hard ass. All these things you were worried about with Dan Campbell because he said he was going to bite somebody's kneecap. in the press conference. It was figurative. All he had to say was figuratively.
Starting point is 01:25:26 That's right. That's on Dan. Like, he's actually a pretty competent football coach here. They're putting it together. They have to play two halves here. That's the key to football. You've got to play two halves. They've played one half in each of their first two games.
Starting point is 01:25:38 This game certainly could have been down by a lot more. But playing these guys close, if it's not for a delay of game that was missed, that's twice they fucked the clock up in two weeks with Philly in San Francisco, which of course was. is less of a big deal on a QB sneak from Jimmy G to ice the game. Play clock goes to zero. Same thing here.
Starting point is 01:25:59 NFL has apologized. They've apologized. Good. Good. Good, good, good, good, good. I'm pretty sure Dan Campbell's his heart is full. You can stuff your sorries in a sack. Rounding it out.
Starting point is 01:26:14 I guess I'll throw an OA award in there. Bruce Ariens is an athlete, dude. Did you see him almost get took out at the end of that football game? I thought we were going to have a tib-fib-type situation. I thought we were going to have a, you know, a fracture, maybe ACL, MCL, the whole thing. I was scared for our guy, but he found a way not to get hurt. And that, to me, makes him a freaking nature.
Starting point is 01:26:36 He's pliant, TB-12. Yeah, he might be doing some of the TB-12 shit. No tomatoes. Game ball. I'm going to go Josh Allen, keep it simple. I mean, it felt like nobody was watching because it got ugly so quick and there were other good games on. but they jumped Washington early and never look back. Josh Allen looks sharp.
Starting point is 01:26:59 No Dalvin, no problem. I'll give it to your guy, Kurt Cousins, 30 of 38, three Tuds, spread it around. Hey, big win. We just gave a fucking player of the week to Kurt Cousins. Yeah, hey, fair is fair. Let's do the nightcap. Hey, we got a really exciting event coming up in Philly on October 3rd. I'll be hosting a Legends Tailgate Party
Starting point is 01:27:24 that you don't want to miss. There'll be food, drinks, and music. Legerat Blunt is going to be there. Brent Selleck's going to be there. I'm going to be there. It's from 9 to noon on Sunday, October 3rd at the Navy Yard in Philadelphia. The best part is that all proceeds go to Philly Youth
Starting point is 01:27:41 and towards ending water insecurity. Get tickets today at waterboys.org slash events. All right, faxes in the building. Let's go nightcap here. facts I'm toasting some whistle pig to Miles Garrett our guy shout out to Miles Garrett four and a half sacks today how much do you think of your salary you would have been willing to pay to have a four and a half sack game oh a lot if not all of it yeah because you're getting a big one the next year just off one game yeah for sure I would have loved to have five or four and a half anything north of three elite. I mean, the first sack he had like, why block him with the tight end? Like, why? Why would you ever block Miles Garrett with a tight end? The second sack, I mean, he beat Peter so fast,
Starting point is 01:28:34 big JP, and he can still move a little bit. It's more the redirection with JP. Like, he had him turned a step out of his stance. That's how quick. And that is not fast grass there in Cleveland. I mean, but he's coming off the rock like he's playing on little field turf. Uh, and he's got his spikes in the ground. That's a 280-pound guy doing that. He's just a freak. Jake Paul better watch out because I heard he was calling him out also. Yeah, I know where I'd put my money. Then he had a couple hustle plays. He like shoe laced Justin Fields, but yeah, a major welcome to the NFL moment. I also want to shout out a couple big boppers. Sam Hubbard, Trey Hendrickson. A couple WDs. Got a couple buckets today. Cincinnati
Starting point is 01:29:20 Mattie was also good up front. So a lot of Rust Belt Sack action. A little Rust Belt Sack action. You remember when Josh Freeman fumbled, Fax took it back for touchdown? Oh yeah. I do. It was Maryland.
Starting point is 01:29:36 No, we're talking about the league, baby. Are you talking about the league, baby? You had a touchdown in the league, too? Every level of football. Holla at your boy. You guys have one touchdown, one touchdown club? Yeah, but I only have one touchdown. my whole life.
Starting point is 01:29:51 Nate has every level of football touchdown. Hey, facts, how was your parlay this week? Woo! So if it wasn't for this last game, I heard you guys talking. I had a... Did you hear us talking? He was in the other room.
Starting point is 01:30:09 There's like an open... I had a pretty bad record myself, but I ended it with a win where I was teetering with the cash out the entire time and I ended up staying in and I had a three-game parlay with Moneyline on Minnesota Vikings
Starting point is 01:30:29 and the Green Bay Packers and then I took the over for the Tampa Bay L.A. game which was 55. Macon, did you, since you did hear us talking in here, did you hear what his record is today, Nate? I think you guys said one in 14. That won, what did you win?
Starting point is 01:30:48 Yeah, that's a good question. Oh, it was a, because I had $6.67 in my account, I went for a freebie, which was I teased Buffalo and Arizona down. Arizona screwed around for a while, and I won like $10. But yeah, it's not one in 15 after that. So I haven't got into the teasing. I don't really understand it. I accidentally got into the round robin last week. I don't know what a round Robin is.
Starting point is 01:31:20 Yeah, nobody. Nobody knows what that is. It's just, it's a parlay, but you pick how many wins, like, that you need to win for it. I believe that's. Okay. That's somewhat accurate. That makes sense.
Starting point is 01:31:35 I had a fucked up teaser today. Arizona Cardinals, Baltimore Ravens, both of them. Oh. No, so lost out on that, lost out on Ravens' second half. I won the Raiders game, Moneyline. I had a New Orleans, New England under. That was a win. Chargers. That was a win, Seattle.
Starting point is 01:31:53 Never again. In Green Bay. Thank goodness. So it's not one in 15, but it's not the best day I've ever had. I don't think you want me to read 15 L's out at you. So I won. Just read them. No, so, so you only won how much?
Starting point is 01:32:08 Oh, I lost everything. I have no money. Yeah, enough about gambling. Facts went home. I kind of want to close the show out this way. So to catch people up, you know, Nate goes home. And this is the first time I think Nate's been home since the snapping turtle died. He had snaps, snapping turtle for people that didn't hear the story before for 13 years.
Starting point is 01:32:29 He abducted him from the James River, from his natural habitat, moved him to Connecticut. We get an update on snaps, where snaps went after he kicked the bucket. So where do they put turtles? all the way down. Shout out. So shout out to Big Al, my dad. He had the tough task of having to dispose of snaps back into his natural environment, which is the stream near my house in Bridgeport, Connecticut.
Starting point is 01:33:11 It would have been nice if you could put him in his natural habitat before he died, dude. Like, it's literally But if my niece is listening Snaps is at the aquarium Yeah, well That's the way I'll be sure When my natural habitat
Starting point is 01:33:25 If like you see like a A dead horse on the side of the road You don't throw it into a pasture I mean If a wild horse is wild And he dies in a pasture He's in the pasture Yeah you're
Starting point is 01:33:38 Yeah you had a domesticated turnal Going on here You basically He died in a single family home in a fucking fish bowl and then you put him in a stream like that was going to make it this is where he'd want to be
Starting point is 01:33:51 yeah he'd want to be there the last 13 years but you had him in a bridge port single family home hey hey hey hey no snap slander no we're not slandering snaps he washed up on the side of that stream in five minutes and has been
Starting point is 01:34:07 eaten by a a rat was big al emotional about it when when snaps uh I don't think think so he has um the pile of orange and blue UVA colored rocks that was in his tank sitting in a small garbage can on the front porch so maybe he is sentimental because he had he didn't he didn't toss those so maybe he's thinking about if he gets another fish bowl he'll use those and he'll be
Starting point is 01:34:32 able to remember snaps pretty festive i'm sure he felt right at home in those orange and blue rocks just like his natural habitat the stream outside that of course he got to he got to see after he was dead. Rest and peace snaps. I'm glad we can get some closure here. I feel better now that I know. Anyways, how can you not be romantic about football?
Starting point is 01:34:58 This one was pretty romantic. And Mason Crosby lines up and what are you thinking as you see him approaching that ball? He's going to make it. Bro, I thought this would be a good football game, but I thought the Packers would pull away. Honestly, it's a little bit, you know, Shanahan has kind of had Rogers number
Starting point is 01:35:17 that defense, the run game, you know, the lack of physicality for Green Bay defensively, but I just don't think San Francisco is the same team that beat the hell out of the Packers and the playoffs two years ago. They're just not. They're not the same team, but I can't say this, they look good. They look good out there.
Starting point is 01:35:36 This was a tough, tough loss, but it's sitting back there watching that go-ahead touchdown by by the fullback running up the day for the fullback. Huge. In Vegas and use check. Harvard dude. Who's a stud in San Francisco.
Starting point is 01:35:53 So, I mean, like, listen, interesting little rivalry shaping up. I don't know if Rogers is going to be in Green Bay long enough to see this thing kind of blossom. But he got one in the wing calm night and a big relief for them because I think the public values San Francisco more than I do. I don't think San Francisco is as good as people say. I agree with that. I'm not being like a hater or anything. I'm just like I'm not as into San Francisco. This San Francisco team as teams in the past.
Starting point is 01:36:20 So I think people will be right back on the Aaron Rogers horse, as they probably should be. I just don't like the Packers, dude. But with this game, people are going to stay on that San Francisco horse as well. Because they played the Packers close. Because they played them close and they played them well. And frankly, I thought that they were going to win and maybe they should have won. Well, Bosa played well. I saw Bosa early on, at least what I saw live,
Starting point is 01:36:45 like he was getting pressure early. And I think, like, one of the biggest, you know, concerns if you're the Packers is, hey, you're worried about skill positions in years past. Well, now I feel like he's got, like, a rapport with the guys that he has, whether, you know, he loves it or not, whether he wishes he had another, you know, big weapon outside of Devante. Now you're worried about the offensive line. Because, like, legitimately, they're not a good offensive line.
Starting point is 01:37:09 And so Aaron Rogers staying upright all year. or Roxanne all year long is a concern. Again, don't think the Niners are that good. So I'm not going to, you know, if I'm a Packers fan, get too full of myself. But a relief for them. And I saw the Harris Stokes play. I didn't think it was that bad. I mean, Trent deposited him in the back of the end zone.
Starting point is 01:37:29 But like anybody that Trent puts his hands on that's shuffling laterally, trying to fit a block on the goal line. Like, imagine being that kid, rookie down there at the goal line. And since we're defensive. Since we're defensive guys and we're always going to look out, we're always going to look out for our backers. We all know if this was old football, he would have got his ass cut. He would have cut him.
Starting point is 01:37:50 And that wouldn't have been no type of play tackling the back. It might have been a touchdown, but at least he would have saved his dignity. And that's the tough thing about being a rookie all of a sudden. And where'd he go to school before, like last year? Georgia. He went to Georgia. So he's no stranger to a big situation.
Starting point is 01:38:08 But there's nothing like prime time, getting trucked on primetime. Welcome to the NFL. This is Trent Williams. One of the best to ever do it. But it's about it's about bouncing back. And after that play, he played very well. I feel like they tried to pick on him. I feel like they tried to pick on him.
Starting point is 01:38:23 And every team is going to because you're a rookie. And I feel like he's showing up. And at the end of the day, he's going to have games out there on the island where he feels like, damn, nothing's going my way. But it only takes one play to impact the game. And I feel like he stood his own. He did well. He had a questionable PI call, but he came back right back and he made a big play.
Starting point is 01:38:50 And I'm happy for him. Yeah, dude, and I'm happy for myself because Aaron Rogers, I left him a little bit too much time, 36 seconds or whatever it was. That was the only saving grace. Any other quarterback pretty much, I'm feeling like I lose that bet, but I had the Packers on the money line. And guess what? They didn't disappoint.
Starting point is 01:39:08 I almost took them plus three. I sacked up and luckily ended up with a little exchange. Drop that dime into DeMonte Adams over midfield. I knew at that point they're 15 yards away. We're good. We're home free. So as an ex-Barris player, I must say, it was with that bet, it was kind of exhilarating having the cheer for Aaron Rogers for that 37 seconds.
Starting point is 01:39:34 It was weird, huh? And really needing it to count. You liked it. I liked it because he did what he needed to. If you're doing something good ever made you any money. Definitely. Shout out to him. How disappointed are you that you will not be a 49er?
Starting point is 01:39:51 Not as disappointed as the 49ers will be that they didn't draft me. There you go. It finally came to fruition. Well, I mean, they're probably disappointed in general, but lately they've been getting the best of them, not tonight. You know what? Like, you got drafted. Shut up.
Starting point is 01:40:07 That's how I feel about, like people who say that. Hey, listen. Rookie quarterback. Do you really want it? Like had he been drafted by the 49ers, would he be as happy? I mean, things have worked out. But the chip on his shoulders will make some great. I really do believe that.
Starting point is 01:40:21 We will be back. Wednesday. Wednesday. See you all Wednesday.

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