Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Week 6 Recap & Superlatives. Tom Brady back? NY Jets Dumpster Fire. Bears Best Defense?

Episode Date: October 19, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Monday afternoon, we're going to talk about the Green Bay, Tampa Bay game, Battle of the Bays, as we like to call it. And the game that it absolutely overshadowed the Jets dumpster fire that rages on every Sunday somehow on a TV near you. Also, going to talk about Rams, Niners, and Debo Samuel, Mike Vrabble's clock management are the Bears the best defense in the NFL. and a Sam Darnold trade that might be cooking. Stay tuned. Happiest of Mondays to everybody out there. Hope you're having a great Monday. It's the afternoon at this point
Starting point is 00:01:07 when you hear us dropping these jewels. It is currently midday Monday and I had a pretty good weekend. How about you make? Oh, I'd say it was up and down. Up and down. Yeah, as are most days, you know. I had five kids in my house.
Starting point is 00:01:25 All yours. Nah. Two of them mine, three of them, my nieces and nephews. Jits on Jits. Jits on Jits. And if you ever want to shut down a conversation about having another kid, just invite a bunch of kids into the house. Not that Meg and I are having that conversation.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Lord knows we waited long enough to have the first one. Yeah, ages spanning. Ages spanning, one and a half to five years old. essentially. Yeah, bro. And right now, you've got to consider that these kids are a lot like us. They haven't had a chance to socialize over the last six months. I would imagine House of Five Jits atmosphere a lot like our first day at the bar whenever it's safe, whenever we deem it's safe to go get drunk at an establishment after midnight. Like no social skills, just screaming at each other. real touchy-feely not that you know we might be doing a lot of hugging and that sort of thing because we
Starting point is 00:02:26 haven't seen each other for some time that's what it's going to be like when they open this shit back up for adults defecating everywhere just shitting people shitting in their pants at the bar don't know how to act haven't seen people in months these kids hadn't seen kids in months really for the most part and I survived I survived five kids in the domicile this weekend So shout out to me there. Also, we had, this is one of the highs of the weekend, a really productive Water Boys and Chris Long Foundation virtual event. We went virtual here in Charlottesville, Virginia,
Starting point is 00:03:03 and I brought my co-host along to help me get through it. I was honored to be included. A really great cause, waterboys.org. Thanks to everybody who popped into the virtual event and raised money, and thank you again for the plug, because I'm not good at plugging myself there. 30K plus is what I heard. I heard $6.5 million. Well, people.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Oh, yeah, people. Dollar bills. Thanks to James Laronitis, 30K plus. I mean, my man stepped up to the plate not only did a Q&A, but I'm being serious for a second. Some friends you play with are lifelong friends. You know, they're not just teammates. And, you know, they assume that role throughout life in different forms and fashions. And James Laronitis, who been through a lot of the past.
Starting point is 00:03:47 last few weeks lost his pops, who was a wonderful man and would greet us after home games in St. Louis. Every week with a big bear hug and a smile. Listen, the dude on three days notice with everything he has going on, stepped up to the plate, showed up, and then paid the rest of the check essentially for one well, one large solar powered well that we're going to be implementing in Tanzania.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Tanzania. Shout out also to the Glass Rose films, Nova kids that made a wonderful documentary that we were able to show. There was, there was a hiccup. So like as we're getting ready to go live, um, live. Yeah, like live. Fuck it, we'll do it live. Yeah, like, yeah, like that. Nicole Woody, who, uh, did a wonderful job of throwing this thing together. As always, uh, she is, uh, the head of my foundation. is three feet away from us, well six feet away from us. Let's be real. Yeah. She was probably, she was over there.
Starting point is 00:04:53 She's about eight. That's a good six. That's an eight maybe. I have, when I try to picture six, I picture lying down. Yeah, I just picture me laying down would my head touch you? Right.
Starting point is 00:05:02 And then I take away four inches because I'm six, six foot four. Nice. I like that. Shameless plug. You're good at plugging yourself. So Nicole's sitting right over there and she's talking to the six and a half million people
Starting point is 00:05:13 who are on the Zoom chat. and she's, you know, everybody take your seats, kind of like you would at a theater. It's getting quiet. The pros here, because we do podcasts, it's not a big deal. It's a Zoom event. We can tell Reed in this setting, Roxanne,
Starting point is 00:05:31 and he knows to cut. Roxanne is our new code word for cuts. Like, we do a lot of off the cuff here. Roxanne is the, it's the safe word, in essence. Get that content out of the pod. content that shitty content that we just rolled the ball out there except for right now read these roxans don't count yeah these we're just talking about roxan this is not a cut but we're kind of like in this safe space where we think everything we say cowboy reed'll make it go away if it
Starting point is 00:06:02 doesn't work out and then this is what happened any comments you can type in a chat box you can also type your questions for the q and a later with james lorence Oronitis and Kyle Guy or Making and Chris in the Q&A box. We'll get started in just a minute. Did y'all hear that puke sound? So I get home and my mom text me and says, who vomited before the virtual event today? It actually went like this. I told my lovely wife, Meg, a hilarious story about how I reached down to get my laptop
Starting point is 00:06:49 up and made an exaggerated my back hurts and my neck hurts noise, which sounded like a vomit sound. Do it, do the sound. Yeah. Like, that's the noise I make whenever I bend down to get something. And then, and then, yeah. And then Meg's like, that was you? Your mom, like,
Starting point is 00:07:05 was hitting me up today. And the big mystery is who puked on the, on the Zoom call. Right. So nobody could see us. It was just a holding screen at 11 a.m. for three minutes until we popped onto the screen. And the problem is, we can get, we can, we can catch a case of the giggles at times.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And you do your little bar hiccup. And then I hear it in my ears. So then I think it went over. And indeed it did. And then I can't stop laughing. You're having a big silent laugh. I start coughing, which is another- Somebody's got COVID.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Good look on a virtual charitable event. It was almost a really bad start. We got it done, though. Shout out to everybody who rolled up and enjoyed our virtual event Saturday. Also, little tease here Friday. We're going to eat some Lucky Charms ice cream. The people have spoken, they enjoyed that stone mailbag last week.
Starting point is 00:08:05 By the way, the idea of the stone mailbag is, I make you leave, we put the rest of the pod in place so it's ready to roll out in the morning. And as we're editing, I do a candy. and I let that candy kind of absorb and for people at home who don't know edibles that takes an hour or two maybe depending what you've eaten
Starting point is 00:08:23 your metabolism and all that. Fats help. Avocados, nuts, that sort of thing. They help it kick in faster. There's a word for it. I'm not sure about it. But I'm up here
Starting point is 00:08:35 talking about Lucky Charms and my eyes are closing and da-na-na-da-da-na-na-da-na-na. Levi-on-bell to the Chiefs. So I got to stop Stone Mailbag and address the biggest NFL news off the top to put it at the front of the pot. You got to be careful with the timing on Stone Mailbag. News happens all the time in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:09:01 We will be eating Lucky Charms on Friday in ice cream. I don't know about we. I'm talking about the Royal Wee. I'm going to be eating at least a pint and I'll probably do it during the pod. And I'll let you know how that actually tastes. I don't eat ice cream before 9 p.m. and I eat plenty of it after 9 p.m. Dumb rule because you don't move around after 9 p.m.
Starting point is 00:09:20 It just sits. I don't need it after 10 p.m. There's a window. Okay. Baseball last night because we do all the sports. I'll sum it up in three words. Atlanta team collapsed. Which is a headline that you can just recycle
Starting point is 00:09:38 if you're the Atlanta Journal Constitution. I can't. I couldn't. And I can't. It just doesn't grab me. Baseball. Yeah, generally speaking. I did go to the trouble of getting on to the correct channel for the 8th and 9th after the football game had ended.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Some website claimed 9.4 million viewers for Sunday night football, which wasn't really a close game for the most part. And 6.4 million for the NLCS game 7. Also, we know baseball is, well, basketball is king in L.A. baseball is like the queen and football's like the jester. Right. So that's a bad sign for people saying go woke, go broke with the NFL, the whole tired, look at the ratings, but I'm not going to look at the hockey ratings being down, but I am going to look at the NBA ratings being down.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Let's just pick the leagues with the most black guys and say that the ratings are struggling because they're too woke. That's my favorite narrative right now. except the lowly nineers and the kind of up and down Rams. We can talk about that. They swept the NFC East and their own two outside it. They commanded more viewership than the game seven, Balgham in baseball last night.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Do you know who is sweet? Who's sweet? Mama, ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-mooki. Is he a baseball player? Yeah, Mooky bets plays for the Dodgers. Where's number 50? Yeah. Swaggy.
Starting point is 00:11:08 I know he. I've heard he's sweet. Yeah. You know who else? is sweet. Cody Bellinger and he hit a dinger to put his squad up and essentially send them to the big show
Starting point is 00:11:18 and he pimped it. Man, he was walking like a wrestler down to first base. Which is great. It's great. I just never understand the baseball and written rules. It seems as though they've been laxed.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Good, good, because they're stupid. I'm so over it. In their version of the bubble. Don't let the hit a home run. You don't want to see him walk like a rass load at first. And when you strike him out, go buck wild. Go crazy. Like the dude from the, it was the San Francisco team, the Giants. Way back? Madison Bumgardner. He used to go ape shit after he threw a strikeout and then would whine about every guy that literally looked at the ball when they hit like a 500 yard or 500 foot Dinger. Who was that closer for a couple years who died all his hair black and was and was.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Yeah, that guy was pretty fun for a while. That guy was fun for a while. On purpose, I'm not going to look it up because baseball doesn't deserve that. Nah, I guess baseball must be really woke right now. I must have missed all the protests. That that must be what was driving the viewership down. Same with hockey. Brian, Brian Wilson. Total Brian move. Just die everything black. Yeah. John Smoltz had a sound bite last night that I didn't mind. and I want to tee this up for you. I want someone to develop an app for all the second guessers
Starting point is 00:12:47 and the know-it-alls that are in our world so that they can click time. You know, timestamp it. This is what I would do. Okay, ain't wrong. Or, okay, you were right. But all the guys that, all the people that can talk about
Starting point is 00:12:59 after the words, what they would do, so somebody out there, I know somebody's smart enough, get an app so that we can get all the second-guessers in the armchair quarterbacks to tell you step by step. So he's getting crushed on Twitter, awful announcing, picked it up,
Starting point is 00:13:16 and he's like, you're talking about Twitter, aren't you, John? I see where John's going with this. And of course, Twitter would ironically bash him for having a decent idea, like Twitter is just a hellhole. John just couldn't get the words out. I think what he meant to say was,
Starting point is 00:13:34 kind of like a fact checker, like a better business, of sports media members. Like, okay, you called the Browns going to the playoffs. Maybe they do. Time stamped. But that should be time stamped and it should go on your record so that when people look you up, you have like a grade that corresponds with the entirety of your take
Starting point is 00:13:59 catalog. And things could be classified as accurate synopsies, which would be weighed less. or differently than a prediction. I think that, I think we're on to something here, John Smols. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Twitter doesn't have that edit function. So there is,
Starting point is 00:14:17 there is some validity to the argument that, hey, people are putting out their takes on the Twitter website. But you're selective with your takes. You're selective with your takes. There should almost be a NFL spreadsheet that goes out to NFL media members and to be verified by this third party organization,
Starting point is 00:14:36 you have to fill it out. You can't run from certain predictions. You have to make a call. And you're graded on that. And to join this elite group, it's like another check. It's not a blue check. It's like a green check or something. You have to make your picks.
Starting point is 00:14:54 You can't. And it could be reflected in your score if you shirk your responsibilities selectively and say, I don't want to pick that game. Yeah. I think Smoltz is on to something. Also, I think Smoltz has the most different voice based on face of all time. Oh, really? Yeah, I never thought he'd sound like that.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Yeah, no, that's what John Smolt sounds like. This one's got a ring to it knowing you're a Giants fan. Let's shout out Dave Gettelman in the Giants personnel department, shall we? Let's not. But you might want to because although D'Andre Baker's gone, Danny Dimes is mediocre at this point. Andrew Thomas was bench, but it was for disciplinary reasons, which is not good when, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:43 a month in the season, there's a bunch of guys that seem to be out playing you. To be fair, kind of a tough situation to play well in, but they are playing chess, not checkers, and I'll tell you why, Macon. The dude who scooped and scored... Tay Crowder.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Take Crowder. Georgia Bulldog. Georgia Bulldog. He put the league on notice yesterday on account of the Giants personnel department. The Giants won yesterday thanks to him. The last player drafted, okay? That's some fucking value right there.
Starting point is 00:16:23 That's Mr. Irrelevant, if you haven't heard the old adage. Or is that an adage? Mr. Irrelevant? Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't call that an adage. Is it a moniker? Yeah. More of a moniker.
Starting point is 00:16:35 That's right. So all the other teams made their picks, hundreds, before this cat. And the other guys picked before him have to be sick, because I know the graphics coming. You know, you took this guy before Crowder, you took this. Is anybody else responsible for 100% of a team's wins? Any other rookie, 100% of a team's wins. What's his name?
Starting point is 00:17:02 Crowder. Tay Crowder. Take Crowder. Don't forget the name. Here's the crazy part. He knew he'd be the guy responsible. They knew he'd be the guy responsible for 100% of the win total at this point.
Starting point is 00:17:15 And they waited for him. They deserve a lot of credit. It reminds me of the Brady thing. I mean, you talk about a poker face. They knew it. They had their guy, but they didn't have to reach. They didn't have to reach. They learned their lesson from Daniel Jones.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Don't reach, wait. He'll be there. And they got him in the Mr. irrelevant spot and now they have a win. Which sucks. And I can't stand the Washington team. I've never been able to my entire life. That part feels good for a split second
Starting point is 00:17:50 until you think about, oh, great. This is another four and 12 freaking season. You're going to be picking sixth. A lot of options there. And your guy, Dave Gettelman, is going to be making the pick. It stinks. I want one, Chris.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Shout out to them. Also shout out. out to David Vibora. It's always hard to say that name. David Vibora. It looks like I had no trouble with it. Yeah, but you don't talk a lot here. So like when you talk, I expect you're talking to be perfect. I say like a thousand words in a podcast. And I said it looks like I'd rather have said it sounds like I had no trouble. Mike Vrabel, the clock god. Did you see this? He went Belichick on the clock again. Yeah. So Houston up 30 to 29 with 340 to go. Nine yards is what they got on first down. So they have second and one. And with like three 15 to go, the camera caught
Starting point is 00:18:44 Vrabel sending in a 12th man. And of course the dudes on the field are like nah. And he's like, just walk. And he sends a dude out there. There's 12 people. They don't call it right away. They call it at the snap. Flag flies. Announcers are like, what's he doing? This is a big mistake. but then you remember that he's done this before when he fucked with the Pats last year as far as manipulating the clock with delay of games and such two years ago it was astutely pointed out that not by me of course because I'm not that smart that the the Jets did this or he did this against the Jets as well so this is a thing and I actually like this and it probably might lead to a rule change a lot like the Patriots wrinkle did
Starting point is 00:19:32 last season. Needs to. Yeah, it needs to. It's a major loophole, but while it's here, you've got to take advantage of it. And I like to move because it does save time. And at that point, you are trading time for downs. Downs are not important
Starting point is 00:19:46 in that situation, especially in second and one. Which I'm a big, I know some people aren't, but like when you're trailing late and you need the ball back and they're milking the clock in the red zone, I'm a big proponent of letting them score. You are? If need be, of course.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Yeah, I'm a big proponent. I'm an even bigger proponent of the down 10. As soon as I'm in field goal range, kick the field goal. I am too. I'm so glad you said that. I know some people listening are barfing. Right. But it makes so much sense.
Starting point is 00:20:21 There's nothing more annoying than getting in the red zone, spending six minutes in the high red and then kicking a field goal. Just do it. Just do it earlier, right? Another thing came up with Mina Kimes last night, you know, your favorite take from Mina that you should just assenine. And we love Mina Kines. Love Mina. I mean, she's, she's Wall of Fame for me as far as media members are concerned currently.
Starting point is 00:20:49 This analytic is ball of shame. Well, you know, and this is of course a very subjective deal here for us. And she would probably cite numbers and real trends and that's great. but I'm just telling you, down in my gut as a football player and it came up last night with the Rams and the Niners where they save, they're down two scores, they're down 15, they score, they kick the field goal. They save the two-pointer for when it matters.
Starting point is 00:21:17 It's 24 to 15. You want to kick the extra point and be down eight, one score, and a two-pointer? Yep. Or do you want to roll the dice and go for two? Just so you know, just so you know what you're going to have to do, fuck out of here, everybody. that's so stupid you can't know no amount of math is going to convince me I can't wait till we have around to have this discussion it's so dumb in real life and an old man al michael's was was with me on that
Starting point is 00:21:43 train last night is that the best guy to be with you no it comes like if you're arguing with somebody in the analytics circle you're like well al michael's thought for sure not but i thought we didn't like al because of the mask so the guy that won't wear a mask and complains about mask the entire broadcast now agrees with you and you're happy about that. Well, I'm, hey, there needs to be a common sense component to all these digits. Also, two-point conversions were hot yesterday. They were like hot in the streets. They were like Hansel.
Starting point is 00:22:13 They were so hot right now. Two for four, the Eagles went, luckily. Jake Elliott just chilling. Jake Elliott, just collecting dust. Two-point conversion for Washington to try to win the game, right? Do you like that? I don't hate it because you're not a good football team. But then that calls into question, you're really trying to win games right now?
Starting point is 00:22:34 Or? Or is that a bad call and you're trying to lose games? I don't know. Vikings also went two for two. But the Romeo Cornell call, he goes for two leading Tennessee by seven with 153 left. I'm going to duck here because I don't know what the internet's saying, but I don't hate it. I like it. Yeah, I don't hate it, especially if you're one and four.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Put them away. And it's not like you're up six, you're up seven. Yeah, I got a better idea than getting mad at Romeo Connell about this thing like, stop them on defense. Stop Derek Henry. Which isn't going to happen. So go for two and win the game. Or else they're going to go down and score and they're probably going to attempt an extra point,
Starting point is 00:23:17 which they did, and it went to overtime and you lost the toss. Now, here's the deal. Derek Henry ripped off a 94-yard or yesterday. and I don't have a segue for this, but when the biggest guy on the field who's eligible to touch the football goes 94 yards, something's broken. Like the game is just,
Starting point is 00:23:37 take the cartridge out and blow on it. It makes no sense. It makes no sense. But I think that call made a lot of sense. I mean, if I'm on defense and I see them drop back out to go for the two-point conversion in that situation, and we're not talking about six to eight,
Starting point is 00:23:54 we're talking about seven to nine, it's terrifying for me. And you can say that's a bad mentality as a player? I don't think so. Because as a player, you can only control what you can control. It takes 11 guys to be perfect to not yield two points in that situation. All it takes is one guy. And that's what you're betting on all day long.
Starting point is 00:24:15 And in that situation, I would be terrified. Shouts out to Debo Samuel. Listen, dude, I want to level with you. I don't love your team. I love some players on your team. Used to be a rival of ours. But I'm not letting that cloud my judgment of your squad. I just don't think you guys are going to the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:24:38 It's not personal. I was wrong about the Rams last night. And to the bitter end, I was up watching the game and I stayed up for nothing because of Debo Samuel. He ran through a motherfucker face, as Marshawn would say, last night on third and seven, with the game on the line, essentially, because I think the Rams go score. I don't know if they get two, but I think they go score. There was plenty of time, and they were moving the ball well.
Starting point is 00:25:09 So Devo Samuel made me stay up too late, made me look like an idiot on my podcast, and cost me money. Three units, he cost me. Three units. I was up a lot of units thanks to our troops, the midshipmen, support the troops. troops and the Bears and the Steelers. It was heavy on those. But to stay up late, to look like an idiot on my own podcast, and to be costed money, I couldn't pick a better guy to drive the nail in the coffin than Debo Samuel.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Love watching him play. I do want to take a moment to remind Debo Samuel if he is a friend of the program somehow or this gets back to him that we did. We did beat them in the Continental Tire Bowl, 28 to nothing. 28-0. You remember Debo's line in that game? I don't. He sat out to get ready for the NFL draft.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Another win for Debo. Fuck. I thought we had you. Hey, shout out to Vegas for clearly predicting this Niners win a week ago. I texted you a week ago. Hey, this line is stinky. We both just like, and all week, I tried to rationalize it
Starting point is 00:26:25 and I was like, you know what, I'm not going to let Vegas scare me. Right. That's what Vegas does. It makes you think twice. Vegas is a bully. I went the same way. I was like, nah, everybody's going to be on the Niners because it stinks. Yep. We're going to zag. They were on the Niners for a reason. I guess they realized that Cooper Cup would drop a ball in the end zone,
Starting point is 00:26:43 that they would have multiple miscues. You know, Cooper Cup, who's usually automatic, gets turned around on a deep ball. That's right over his head. and just opportunities like that cost them all night long and then the defense really for me you know you have to do one thing to beat that team
Starting point is 00:27:02 with Jimmy who just got pulled in the second half last week who's got a high ankle and Chris Collinsworth is zooming in and Isoing on one throw last week well this throw you know he's not doing that with his ankle and watch this six yard out that he looks much more stable disregard the fact that the throw last week
Starting point is 00:27:20 was for 45 I'm sure he feels better a week later, but the bottom line is you look at his stat line, that's not indicative of what they were asking him to do. I mean, he didn't have to make big throws last night. You knew George Kittle was a safety valve. They were going to run gadgets. They were going to get you moving sideways.
Starting point is 00:27:40 They were going to create extra gaps. And you knew that they were going to try to run the ball up their ass. Mostert was a horse. Oh my gosh. I feel terrible because one of the guys, and we said this can happen to the best of us. Micah Kaiser got baptized our guy
Starting point is 00:27:57 who's been bawling. It happens. Also, face mask, offense. Probably a face mask, but here's the real issue with most running through people all last night. We have been so desensitized.
Starting point is 00:28:12 A guy like Micah Kaiser or anybody that got stiff farm last night is just really blessed that Josh Norman exists. You know what I mean? We are totally desensitized. I will say this, just a terrific job of coaching by that team. I think they're a tremendously coached football team.
Starting point is 00:28:28 I've just had issues with some of their personnel and the injuries. Do I think they're going to the playoffs? I still don't. And I'll keep saying it because all pub is good pub. And when they go to the playoffs and everybody puts me on the stupid list, at least people think, oh, that guy has a podcast. Yeah. You know, like, Salah did a great job.
Starting point is 00:28:48 The corners played great. the Rams made too many mistakes and Jimmy's stat line look way better in what they asked him do because the Rams had to stop the run and the quick game and they couldn't do it. They felt like they were behind on second and third down all game
Starting point is 00:29:03 like third and longs and that sort of thing like I'd have to go back I'm sure somebody would check the stats there's only so much time in a day. But needless to say the game plan worked perfectly and you didn't hear a lot from Aaron Donald because when you have to worry about
Starting point is 00:29:16 getting doubled and triple team and the quick passes and the hard zone act you're never attacking and they're well-coached football team. So shout out to Debo and the Niners. I was wrong. I'll holler at Doc Emrick.
Starting point is 00:29:32 He's retiring. He's the best play-by-play guy. There is hockey fellow. Yeah, hockey. Doesn't take a breath. Unfortunately. Three periods. Unfortunately, nobody watched Stanley Cup playoffs this week
Starting point is 00:29:43 because I heard a bunch of, or this year because a bunch of players were protesting. So it sucks that he had to go out that way. Hey, if you go woke, you go broke. That's what they say. Woke, broke. Rhymes also doesn't have to be true. Love you, Doc.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Did you see the fucking house LeBron James just bought? No. Love houses. A lot of chickens. Here's what we should do. Can you pull that up? Yeah. And we'll have you kind of list that house for us on the spot.
Starting point is 00:30:16 I typed in LeBron James, hours. I do want to shout out while you find it. Shouts out to the Liberty Cuckolds. This is my fantasy ball club. O'N5. I'm not even going to like try to act like I know what the fuck I'm doing. I don't.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Then when I think I do, I really don't. You know, I could have complained. And so we were snake bit last week when Ridley posted a goose egg to send me to own five. I mean, I needed like 14 points.
Starting point is 00:30:47 10 points. He went for nothing. Zero. O'n five. This week has been absolute bullshit. I'm up 10 points, but let me lay the scene here. Set the scene. Juju for two and a half points.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Okay? Fitzpatrick plays too good in the first half. He plays so good, 22 points in the first half, that he plays himself into a situation where they're running the football and Tua comes in at the end. Not to mention the insane, interception that we saw in the Jets game.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Did you see that? Yep. I mean, that was skill involved there, but there's luck too. That was a lie. I mean, and, and, and Fitsy is fucked because of that, and I'm fucked because of that. And I might end up on a billboard because of stuff like this. I am going to be on a Marks and Harrison looking ass billboard on 29 north outside of Charlottesville.
Starting point is 00:31:46 I am 0 in 5. And if I don't get some. great play tonight from Clyde Edwards E-Lair whose hair should be on fire because the Levi-on-Bel signing I might be fucked let me tell you what's going on not to mention Godwin and Parker's teams
Starting point is 00:32:04 played too good yesterday so they weren't throwing the football thought they'd have big days I'm up eight and I've got Greg Zerline and Clyde and he's got Kelsey and Edmonds and Edmonds is a guy who's emerging as the main option in Arizona. You're projected win by eight points.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Your win probability is 63%. It's more than half, but I don't feel good about it. That is more than half. That is more than half. Hey, I'll shoot you straight. You're not very good at this at all. Yeah, no. I would pick real,
Starting point is 00:32:38 I would pick this rather than the inverse, though. Being good at it? Being good at it. No, I would pick being good at real football and not good at fantasy football over the end. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's worked out good.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Yeah. Can I take a piss break? Sure. Golly, I'm hydrated today. Can I tell you something? You know what sucks? Meeting fans and bathrooms. Magic Johnson and I had this experience.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Oh, you did meet Magic Johnson. I reckon I was playing the role of fan. Yeah, probably, unless he's a friend of the program, but this was like 2013, so do tell. He was weighing. And I came in after he had started up. And I was like, wow, Magic Johnson. Not, look, Magic Johnson goes bathroom.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Then he leaves. I followed him. Not I followed him pee. I didn't follow him. Well, I did actually follow him afterwards. We, uh, all right. Sounds to me like you checked his dick out and then followed him in the hallway. I was, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I didn't. It was not a side-by-side situation. But you didn't stop him. It was a weight situation. You got the picture, but on the floor. Yeah, MSG, outside the bathroom. Just know. Minutes later.
Starting point is 00:34:07 If you're a fan, don't even go for the elbow or the knucks in the bathroom. No, wouldn't have dreamed of it. It's like if you're a fan and you meet your favorite athlete in the bathroom, just chalk it up as bad luck because there's no good play there. There's no good play. And... What? What?
Starting point is 00:34:27 you're pointing at pissed on my on my intimidator sandals he peed on his sandals I was in a rush there's a drop of of piss on my Dale Earnhardt sandals
Starting point is 00:34:42 that I bought from NASCAR to positively reinforce the banning of the Confederate flag it's the only merchandise that I positively reinforce that move with that's a big drop I shouldn't be forced to work in these hazardous conditions it'll dry
Starting point is 00:34:56 I got socks on with my sandals For those of y'all wondering I saw Magic Johnson I was in a bathroom I was in a bathroom And I thought Wow magic Johnson He was in the urinal
Starting point is 00:35:09 Yeah I was pissing right next to him Nah I was waiting I mean that'd be the most awkward thing to say Hey Hey magic Johnson Hey Magic Johnson
Starting point is 00:35:23 Anyways We were talking about about fantasy football. My club, the houses, is going to go to five and one this evening. Good for you.
Starting point is 00:35:35 As long as Dittka's Stiffies don't go off. Dittka's Stiffies featuring this evening Zeke Elliott and I've got Kyler the creator. I'm in fine shape. I'll go to five and one.
Starting point is 00:35:48 How about a trade proposal? Yeah, sure. Perhaps the first ever fantasy football live trade proposal I can guarantee everyone listening. There's no terms of not been discussed to this point. No.
Starting point is 00:36:00 I got your boy on my squad, though. Don't even know how trades work in fantasy football. If you agree, we'll consummate the trade and it'll go through. A new player will be on your team. I've got a receiver. You mentioned juju, two catches for six yards. I got a guy. I got a guy who has scored in the last three weeks, each of the last three weeks put up
Starting point is 00:36:18 fantasy points of 13.7, 31.2, 19.5. Well, let's talk turkey. To boot, he's one of your guys. It goes by the name of Travis Folgum. man listen i know what you're doing here i'd be willing to send you Travis fulgum and a Denver broncos running back to take a chance on juju coming back to form you doing the by low thing well for sure um listen you want to hold on to two for six be my guest you're o in five and a half when does this trade go away when when is it expire when are you taking the offer off midnight midnight yeah
Starting point is 00:36:58 Folgum can't help me on the field tonight. Correct. Which is fucked because these are just... Folgum played Sunday. I know. I know, but what I'm saying... It's a joke. It's a bit.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Oh, got it. Yes. He can't fly to the facility and play for us tonight. Right. Okay. So I get till midnight tonight. Yep.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Okay. I'll be sure to... You can take Philip Lindsay or Melvin Gordon. With Fulgum. I'll take juju off your hands. Hey, for the listeners getting the, um, tweet at me and tell me if this is a good idea or not.
Starting point is 00:37:32 I don't want it to go to the, I don't want it to go to the comment section under the podcast because he reads that a lot. He's obsessed with. I'm not obsessed. The folks have been nicer and it's, it's really made a positive impact on my life. Well, I think you've positively impacted the pod.
Starting point is 00:37:47 It's great having you. Thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you. I don't know about that. So, yeah, we'll see what happens to the cuckles tonight. Let's talk about some real football. shall we? Green Bay, Tampa Bay, the Battle of the Bays.
Starting point is 00:38:04 That's right. That's right. When you're right, you're right and you're right. Also, very windy in Tampa Bay yesterday. You saw the ref's little squishy pants flying around. You saw all the gusts. And I was kind of wondering, because I saw one of those, we talked about this, the charts, I saw one of these charts that somebody retweeted this weekend
Starting point is 00:38:28 where people are sitting at the table, and it's like an outline of people, so it's computer generated, and they're just barfing viral loads on each other, and it signifies a conversation. Just show you maybe you shouldn't sit at a four-person table with four people. Ever.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Ever. And this is what happens indoor, and people are just projectile vomiting, little blue dots onto each other, and they're just having a conversation like you and me. Right. How do you think the wind affects that in a stadium? I think the wind would take a viral load,
Starting point is 00:38:59 in the direction the wind was blowing. So if there's a westerly wind, the folks in the west side of the stadium are just taking loads to the face. That was just an aside. There was a football game. And Joe and Troy put this really well,
Starting point is 00:39:16 and it's something we've talked about before as it pertains to Tampa and everybody panicked after week one. And even last week, number one, you can't read in the first month the season this year too much. I think there's some teams you can make determinations on, but there's some that you're going to have to say incomplete.
Starting point is 00:39:36 And this would be one. They have to like where they are because the Saints, to me, even though they pulled off the comeback last Monday night, they look very human. And the bucks are rounding into form after this, like, de facto preseason. And they look really good. and by the way
Starting point is 00:40:00 one more reminder that Joe Buck got pulled from a World Series game basically it's not World Series game seven of the NLCS for a regular season football game
Starting point is 00:40:11 week five with no fans in the stands and I know the quarterback thing but again the buildup to this I mean fans were salivating and it turned out to be kind of just a blowout it was never a tight ball game
Starting point is 00:40:24 it was a tight ball game for like three minutes I mean it was 10 nothing in a first year thinking, oh no, the wheels are falling off here. It could get ugly. We've been right about this lately that, you know, Aaron's the best player in the league and Green Bay's unbeatable, who can beat them in the NFC, period, which is ironic because before the season, if you look at these two camps individually, one team was bracing for an implosion because of the draft and because
Starting point is 00:40:58 of Jordan Love, who by the way, didn't see the field yesterday even in a blowout. The number two came in. And the other camp who is essentially the next dream team. We just ordained them this. And then the scripts flip a month in and now they flipped again, right? So how do we react to this? I wouldn't place too much of an emphasis on it, especially because we look at it from a, from a, from a, matchup standpoint, these teams might see each other again, okay? What I mean to say is
Starting point is 00:41:34 it could go totally different next time. That's the way these things are. 2018, I was on a Philly team that got beat like 48 to 7 in New Orleans. We went down there in the playoffs and got after them for a while and lost a tight ball game,
Starting point is 00:41:48 low-scoring type ball game. Things were totally different. And now you say, well, the quarterbacks were different. Offensive output wasn't much different. Defense played better. And so these things, change and you just have to take take into account variables through the through the year and
Starting point is 00:42:03 there are things like pick sixes that you can't get back and they they change your the odds of winning a football game not that seven points was the difference but those things become really hard to overcome the biggest thing for me and there's a way it's about green bay i'll get to that in a second but there's a really clear way that it's about Tampa and that was that 10 days ago well not 10 days ago. How many days ago was, yeah, 11 days ago, we watched Tampa kind of implode and piss down their legs in a very untom-Bradie, piss on their Dale Earnhardt slides, unintentionally. They imploded, especially on that one drive that we've talked about on the pod here, the Jensen penalty, the third and 30 or whatever it was, the pressures, Mack kind of just
Starting point is 00:42:55 breathing on Tom Brady for off and on for 60 minutes just towering over him like on the ground like those are the images that were burnt into our brains including Tom Brady yelling at a guy
Starting point is 00:43:08 oh my God he yelled at a guy yelled at a guy so Brady's been in the crosshairs the bucks have been in the crosshairs people are like is Brady panicked are the bucks bad we said last week this is a team that has a major
Starting point is 00:43:22 road ahead of them where they're going to have to put together more victories like this where they don't, where they don't commit penalties. You know, like the penalties weren't a problem yesterday. I don't think they had one, did they? They didn't make those dumb plays they made last week. Tom wasn't under duress as much.
Starting point is 00:43:40 It looked like a vintage Tom Brady team. There was a moment in the third, the first possession. You get the run game going. Ronald Jones is dentin them. He is. Rojo. Rojo's awesome. You can count on that guy.
Starting point is 00:43:55 You can. Maybe not to catch the ball out of the backfield. That's one thing they gotta work on. Just 100 yard rushing. Pounding people though. Zero penalties for zero yards. Zero penalties for zero yards. There was that tear drop that Tom threw in there to Gronk.
Starting point is 00:44:11 And by the way, it was like vintage Tom to Gronk. He looked a lot better running this week. He got more touches. Ariens says he's getting into shape again. He threw that tear drop in there between three dudes on the right sideline. And it was at that point that I, I realized, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Like, they look like a machine right now. It's a far cry from last week. Brady's answering the critics. They're not committing penalties. Him and Gronk, it looks like it's 2013. And I realized that he probably spent much of his day in the training room as an older player would, getting there early, watching the TVs around the locker room
Starting point is 00:44:54 and watching the TVs, you know, outside the training room. A lot of times we'd slide into side offices to watch a game while we're taping up and that sort of thing. Like something to get your mind off everything going on in your universe, which some people might say you need to focus on your game. Guys watch games passively in locker rooms around the league. Not in New England, by the way. No TV's there. Different.
Starting point is 00:45:18 But was it the TVs or was it Tom? That's what everybody's wondering. Was it Bill? Is it TVs? Is it Tom? I say that to say, I'm pretty sure Tom was watching the New England game, at least had one eye on it yesterday,
Starting point is 00:45:33 as they couldn't get it going offensively and dropped a really disappointing game in Denver. And I'm just saying to myself, this is, for all the bad days Tom's had lately, this was Tom's good day. And you'd rather have it week five than week one or week five than in Chicago on a Thursday night. This was the showdown.
Starting point is 00:45:53 You lost Nick Foles last week, a bunch of penalties. It looks like maybe the chemistry's fractured if you ask people because I've never seen a player get yelled at on the sideline before some of the media members that are looking for like first take style layups. What about Tom? Well, I think Jensen had it under control this week, didn't he? It looks like he got the message and they roll.
Starting point is 00:46:19 I mean, the touchdown to Johnson, 2110 is what it made it, buying time in the pocket, climbing. that's like vintage Tom in the red zone, the Gronk touchdown for the jugular before the half, 2810, and you could tell they were going for the kill. I mean, this is like Tom takes things personally. That was a beautiful ball. And the only thing that looked different about Brady yesterday
Starting point is 00:46:42 was the shotgun stance if you heard Aikman talking about that. Yep. Feet were to, we're together. Some people were speculating that Aikman was trying to throw Jensen right under the bus throughout the game. it's just reality. If you're worried about bad snaps, if you're worried about penalties
Starting point is 00:47:00 and that sort of thing, like yeah, Brian's gonna be on the hot seat for a little bit here. But I think it's for the better. We heard Sanchez last week on the pod talking about squantch. Squantch, our guy squantch, talking about when he was a quarterback,
Starting point is 00:47:13 sometimes you picked the guy, you said, I'm gonna yell at you. And I gotta hold you at a different standard. I'm yelling at you so I don't have to yell at all the other guys who might not have the same job security. And that could be a center, It could be a leader on the offensive line
Starting point is 00:47:27 and maybe Tom sees Jensen as the kind of the glue guy. You know, Worf's is too young. Donovan's kind of maybe not maybe not the leader. A lot of times it's the center. I mean, that's the way it is on the teams I've been on. And yeah,
Starting point is 00:47:44 so one week after losing a foals, he out duels Rogers in a big way. And obviously, to be fair, Rogers had a lot less weaponry than Tom on the field and lost Bakhtiari at one point, which is a big deal worth monitoring. Don't know if we have anything on that. Rogers had a little taste of what Wentz deals with on a regular basis.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Now, Roger's a better player. I'm not equating the two, but you're not going to get away with that kind of starting 11 every week. You're not going to get away with that every week, especially when you're playing a defense like the Bucks. So for the Bucks, it was about, we're rounding into form here. And for Tom, it was about this was personal.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I don't dislike Aaron, but I'm tired of hearing about him. That's what I think. And I'm tired of hearing about Nick beat me twice now. I got one shot so that fans and the media around the country don't hit the panic button on me. And that's not the reason he went out there and bald. He wants a win, but that stuff's relevant. Now, why this game is really relevant for Green Bay is you can say it's one game that they got physically manhandled. especially defensively here.
Starting point is 00:48:58 I'm not worried about Aaron Rogers. Same thing, same reason I did not trust the Packers last year showed up in this game. They got bullied a little bit and it felt like at times late in the game they had had enough. Aikman pointed it out on that touchdown.
Starting point is 00:49:18 I got to look closer at the film to make sure the effort was there because I don't like questioning effort unless I'm sure. But there were whispers. And, you know, I remember to start the fourth quarter, Ronald Jones gets the ball
Starting point is 00:49:30 after another really bad three and out for Green Bay, runs for 14 yards into Packers territory through like three bodies. And you're just like, yeah, this thing is like white flag. So for Green Bay, that's my concern. It's not just one game. There were a number of these games last year, and there's a track record. There's a
Starting point is 00:49:46 reputation being built up on the defensive side of the football. You know, people had issues with the three-man rush that I mentioned earlier that Brady found a window to step up. And and hit the receiver in the end zone to make it 2110. People were like, Mike Patton's an idiot,
Starting point is 00:50:03 some of the Packers fans that were tweeting at me. He's an idiot. Rushing 3 is so stupid. Teams rush 3 in the red zone every now and again. I don't know if it's advisable, but what's not advisable is running past the quarterback. It's little things like that. It's not just the physicality,
Starting point is 00:50:16 but it's the discipline of being at 10 yards in the red zone when you're rushing three. Tom's able to easily stack you. He could bake a cake back there. He's comfortable. he finds a receiver for a touchdown. And it's little things like that. It's just not getting run over.
Starting point is 00:50:33 It's little stuff like that. Tom went 12 of 16 for 102 in a touchdown when the Packer sent four or fewer. Yeah. So maybe next time something to look at for them. Also, the consideration for Green Bay besides the defense scaring me and the physicality scaring me
Starting point is 00:50:51 is everybody likes an angry Aaron Rogers. There's a difference between angry Aaron Rogers and a frustrated Aaron Rogers and he was frustrated. That was a frustrated Aaron. Sue plays like my four-year-old plays with smaller children. And it's fun to watch. Watching that sack, it was like he didn't even try to wrap him up.
Starting point is 00:51:15 He just was like bowling ball. And he was hyped. This guy has stuck around a league at different times. He's kind of mailed it in. the chips are up again. And this is a guy who's gonna help them down the stretch. Listen, I mentioned Bakhtiari,
Starting point is 00:51:35 that's one to monitor, because in the second half, he's just getting smoked. And Devin White nearly killed him. And at one point, he's getting up, just shaking his head, Aaron Rogers, and he's saying to himself, like, is this how it's gonna be the rest of the year? That's how I read it.
Starting point is 00:51:50 And why are the O. Lyman letting Aaron and Sue draw at each other. Why aren't the O. Lyman? I was talking about this with my dad last night. Why aren't the O'Lyman getting in the middle of it? Why is Aaron have to talk shit to Sue? I know that like Aaron likes to talk shit sometimes, but that said something to me.
Starting point is 00:52:09 And I think the next possession after Bakhtiari's injury, the backup got beat bad by Lavante, knifing underneath in the run game, TFL, negative play on a screen, then Roger scrambles for a short, short gain and they got a punt. It's 3810 at this point. The game's over.
Starting point is 00:52:30 And you know it was really, really a standout moment from that three and out. It was Aaron Jones after that second downplay, the screen that went for a negative, mushing Devin White really should have been a penalty. I don't know how they missed it. What does mush mean? Like pushed him in the face.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Not a punch, but like a mush. Like pushed him in the face. The whole team was mad. The whole team was frustrated. and then after that play you got the Rojo run for 14 where it became apparent to me at this team might of, I don't want to say giving up
Starting point is 00:53:02 but they were broken. You mentioned New England, do you think Tom plays, I don't know, better, sharper if he has an eye on Denver 18, New England 12 or New England 45,
Starting point is 00:53:18 Denver 12? You know what? I think that might be a blood-in-the-water situation where it's like, oh, I can really go out make a statement today. I think he's playing how he's going to play. I think there's all these conversations about motivation and inherent motivation,
Starting point is 00:53:30 that sort of thing. Like Tom's plenty motivated every week. But a mere mortal like me, I might feel like I'm playing with house money out there on the field if I see a result like that up north. Ross Tucker had a tweet about, you know, imagine if people called Aaron Rogers washed after that pick six.
Starting point is 00:53:49 I don't see the unfairness when it comes to a 43-year-old guy. who's not a big arm while you physical attribute dude anymore being questioned after he throws pick sixes for a number of weeks. Like I have maintained that this is Tom working the kinks out for sure. But he is older. And like older people, when they start doing like really old people stuff, if you're 104 and you get like,
Starting point is 00:54:15 I don't know how hospice works, kind of a dark turn. But like when you, when old people stuff happens to you, people assume you might be on the way. out. Aaron Rogers is throwing the ball around like a fucking jugs machine this year. So no, Ross. A pick six is not going to lead to speculation about Rogers decline. By the way, the Tom pick sixes are you know, part of a pattern lately. Uh, and didn't people call Aaron washed the last couple
Starting point is 00:54:48 years like at different moments? For sure. I don't know. I don't. Yeah, I mean, they actually drafted a guy to replace him. So we talked about Brady getting the monkey off his back for sure. That was huge and it was a big win for the bucks. But Kyle Brand made a good point this morning and I saw it last night, you know, plenty of people saw it. He didn't shake hands with Nick 10, 11 days ago. He promptly ran right out of the, right off the sideline to shake hands with Aaron. And I get it.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Like I could easily criticize Tom and then Tom might say, well, I'm doing what people are people ask me to do and now I'm getting criticized. That would be fair if it weren't for, as Kyle pointed out, week one handshake, Drew Brees, after loss, and then the handshake yesterday. And he makes a great point as well about Justin Herbert if you were to say, listen,
Starting point is 00:55:43 maybe he's only shaking other goat's hands. He ran right out and shook Justin Herbert's hand. What is it about Nick Foles? And I think it's true. I don't give a shit about handshakes after the game. Like, I really don't. And it's amazing to me, actually.
Starting point is 00:56:00 The, what about the handshake crowd is also the participation trophy crowd, I feel like. The Venn diagram is a circle there. Both can't make sense here. I don't care much about shaking hands, but when you see the inconsistency, it's fair to ask questions. Derek Carr up next for Tom's handshake or non-handshake. Yeah, we'll see. Sunday night. Handshake watch.
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Starting point is 00:57:20 Like, it's been totally disjointed since the outbreak. long trip Denver's better than people think Drew Locke was back and Cam you know in a newer system with a coach and a program that's you know the strength is prep practice you take that away that's the Patriots biggest advantage it's not like they're the teams of old that are pretty talented and that sort of thing like there are a lot of holes in those rosters so if they're not prepared and they don't have time to rep things you're going to have some up and down games. Is the coaching staff not more prepared? Just crunch and film? They may be, but reps getting players on the field to run through things, time and meetings, not being on
Starting point is 00:58:04 Zoom doing meetings. You know, the facility was shut down off and on. The game was in question. It's the same way. It's funny. A week ago, we are wondering if the chiefs actually suck because they almost got beat by Brian Hoyer. I don't think so. I also don't think the Patriots suck because they got beat by the Broncos and Drew Locke, both situations are totally out of an NFL player's wheelhouse from a prep standpoint. I know that the Chiefs weren't in the same situation that the Patriots are in, but the uncertainty really does weigh on players. What about the Titans? I know it took them a while and I know they have the same system as last year, but they put up 42 points after 42 and back-to-back weeks after a lot of shutting down.
Starting point is 00:58:51 They're kind of a loose team. And I think they leaned into that situation. Where New England, it's like everything's about prep, practice meetings, and being really type A and really studious and really regimented. And all NFL players are creatures of habit. It also could have been a bad matchup. They might have kicked the bill's ass no matter what. Yeah, I'm just not worried about the Patriots losing a game like that. that was pretty up in the air
Starting point is 00:59:21 and against the team that people probably sleep on, but Drew Locke's back and we talked about the prep. From the biggest game of the week, and of course I'm talking about Green Bay, Tampa Bay, the Battle of the Bays, you have emerging from its shadow, the Jets Dolphins game,
Starting point is 00:59:39 which is the loneliest game on Earth. We talked about the Washington football team in Arizona playing in a bad spot earlier in the season, I think. This game was the pre-year-old. personification of if that will forte show last man on earth or whatever it is last man standing Steve Brule no it's about being alone isolation shout out to Steve Brul dr. Steve Brul did you did you like the two minutes you watch before you left the house the other
Starting point is 01:00:10 night it was like 30 seconds I mean no no I didn't give it time um this was the personification of that will will Forte show Like this game was so alone. It was so lonely. By the way, Will Forte once left me a voicemail. I'll tell that story another day. I would love another voicemail. I lost it.
Starting point is 01:00:31 It was a couple, it was a couple phones ago. And I coveted it. And it was gone. I'm a big McGroover fan. Mutual friend got him to leave me a voicemail. Lost it. So Will, maybe you could call into the show or something. Will's 50 in the years old.
Starting point is 01:00:48 I would have said that. that was about right. Okay. Yeah. The only other game on TV yesterday at that point because there was the nine game to two games split, which Fox doesn't want any part of the networks
Starting point is 01:00:59 don't want any part of reshuffling that schedule because if you're Fox, why would you wanna share the time with more of those garbage one o'clock games? Like you want Tampa, you want the Battle of the Bays. Sounds like you have some inside knowledge on that. Well, I think it's just the way TV goes. You know, we're in the biz. I almost felt bad for the Jets yesterday.
Starting point is 01:01:17 I do feel bad for a lot of their players. At the same time this game is going on, the coach that you fired to hire Adam Gase is putting on a clinic defensively down in the bay. And up. Yeah, whatever. Miami's down there at the bottom. The bay is up.
Starting point is 01:01:39 The game was in, but I'm thinking New York. Yeah. Geography is not the strong suit this morning. Roxanne. Oh, fuck. What? We'll leave it in.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Okay, nice. I just want to hear you say fuck, I guess. Frank Gore doesn't deserve this. You know, by the way, Brian Flores had to tackle Frank Gore in college. That was a factoid yesterday. That's a good one. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:02:05 I think Gore is going to play until he's 105, and I think the Jets might ruin us being able to see that because playing on a football team like this, trust me, sucks the life out of even the most, football-minded dudes. Like, they're going to mess up our chance at a modern-day Ken Griffey thing. And as of 2.11 p.m., Adam Gaye still employed.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Yeah, he's still employed. Is the play just to go, Owen 16? I don't know. That's what Bill Barnwell thinks that maybe the play is to just keep this ship moving in the right direction. And, by the way, on Frank Gorthing, I do want to change our St. Louis Memorial Award, which is about playing in,
Starting point is 01:02:50 it's an award about playing in obscurity. It's official. I'm changing the name of that award to the Frank Gore Love of the Game Award sponsored by Toral. Nice. That'll be later in the show. I'm just going to sub out St. Louis.
Starting point is 01:03:07 So here's a memorial to the St. Louis Memorial Award. It's no more. Frank Gore is playing in the most inopportune circumstances. is at an age that's unthinkable at his position. It is amazing to me that he keeps going. That guy loves football more than anybody. He should get in the Hall of Fame and he should have his own fucking wing. 5'9, 212, 37 years old.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Miami running back. Miami, fuck, fuck, fuck. My favorite thing about that game, though, is Damien Woody live tweeting Jets games. Like, it's such a factor of sadness. I mean, consider watching that game closely enough to digest it. And then consider tweeting about it. To whom, Damien. Who are you tweeting at?
Starting point is 01:03:59 Like people on the timeline are like, there's another football game going on? Context, please. I hope you use the hashtag so people knew what you're talking about because nobody was watching that game. I had it on my small TV to see if Fitz-Fitz magic would come through
Starting point is 01:04:14 in fantasy. I mean, Aaron Rogers, Tom Brady, other TV, Damian Woody is a good person. That's how I know he's a good person. That's how I know he's trustworthy because he's watching his team in that 4 o'clock spot and firing off tweets into the abyss.
Starting point is 01:04:33 And he likened the Jets to Newports, which are cigarettes because they stay getting smoked. That's what he said. I think that's unfair to Newports. Newports are really smooth. Really smooth. I think the Jets are more like Marlboro Reds.
Starting point is 01:04:50 They're the harshest Sigs. Remember the first Sigs I ever got my hands on when I was like a teen? Really harsh. Harsh on your lungs. That's what the Jets are. They're not Newports. I was like trying to visualize Damien
Starting point is 01:05:08 fumbling for his phone to capture this stat. And this is the stat of the day. Adam Gase, total offense. As a Bears coordinator, 21st. As a Miami head coach, 24th. Then 25th. Then 31st. And then last year, they're last in the league. There's 32 teams.
Starting point is 01:05:26 The trend hits a fucking wall. There's literally nowhere you can go from here. To be fair, he's currently 31st this year. Things could get worse. I think they're going seventh circle of hell. Like, there's just no way. There's no way. Who's worse?
Starting point is 01:05:43 Somebody. I'm looking at the graphic. It's inevitable that he's not going to break the trend. What if he breaks the trend and goes 31? one this year and the Johnson family is like, nah, keeping him around, trending up. Well, then next year he could go 25. We could have a palindrome situation on the hands.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Palindrome, nice. By the year 2025, he could be back to 21st in the league. That's what's called playing the long game. Yep. And here's the most fucked up part. Damien was on the show over the, felt like the summer, fall, that kind of in-between preview area. and he called this.
Starting point is 01:06:23 I mean, this exact thing about Adam Gase. I mean, it's not a hot take. Anybody could see that I just didn't know when you're an offensive guru, if you've never had a good year offensively, I know you can put up, you know, decent numbers in Denver and Peyton Manning likes you. Guess what? Peyton Manning, I would guess Adam Gase deferred to him a lot,
Starting point is 01:06:44 and that's probably a lot of the reason Peyton liked him. And also, they might get along. Adam Gase, by all accounts, is a pretty fun guy to be around. And I've talked to Adam Gase. He's cool. He used to coach my brother, but he's not getting it done. And I feel bad. I feel bad talking about, like, coaches getting fired and making light of it and that sort of thing.
Starting point is 01:07:02 But like, there's a lot of players on that team playing in a pandemic, risking their health and their bodies for that product. So eventually there has to be some accountability at the top level. Would you change your take if I told you? do you that the jets are up to number 30 in total offense after Sunday not compelling enough but there is the long play we discuss maybe maybe the palindrome sin thing is is happening a little quicker than we thought the new york giants and Washington football team are eight yards behind the the jets in total offense this year nice he could probably manipulate a graph and chart a lot like our president would to justify something I mean I
Starting point is 01:07:50 I feel like that's one of these situations. Listen, Joe Flacco doesn't even deserve this. Fireman Ed doesn't deserve this. Jets fans don't deserve this. L.D. Larry David doesn't deserve this. J.B. Smooth.
Starting point is 01:08:08 doesn't deserve this. Here's something that I thought of. The older Johnson is the ambassador to the UK, right? Maybe Biden wins the election. we've gone political here, but it's relevant, guys. Bear with me. And it's possible. He's on the ballot. Biden wins the election.
Starting point is 01:08:29 And Buddy gets pulled from his job as ambassador to the UK. Returns to Jets football operations in the forefront and says, what the fuck are we doing here? Axes Adam Gase. So if you're a Jets fan and a Trump voter, I feel sorry for you, but there's hope. You just have to vote for Biden. if you vote for Biden
Starting point is 01:08:51 Older Johnson returns to East Rutherford or wherever the fuck their facility is now Is that where it is? Yeah And acts as Adam Gase Because that's the only thing I can think of Is that just older Johnson's not paying attention
Starting point is 01:09:05 Older, no I can't I can't Bigger Johnson He's the one with the bigger wallet I have a good one too I'll tell you I can't do it Well that's bad if you can't do it So I just think
Starting point is 01:09:21 Another thing to think about and weigh as you're making decision is teams are 1 and 0 after coaches get fired. So to Bill Barnwell's point, maybe you should hold this firing because you can't afford a win right now. And it's a toxic
Starting point is 01:09:36 situation. You can see it with him and Greg getting into it. I've seen this before. Pressure burst pipes and that's what seems to be happening inside that building. Here's the deal. When we saw Ryan Tannahill thriving, like if you look at him on paper
Starting point is 01:09:52 the last year and a half he looks like a top five quarterback oh my gosh if you just read the stats stunning I mean on the field he's pretty damn good too okay I just think we have this block as football fans and there's a number of players that are the victims of this early in their career the first act wasn't good so it's just stuck
Starting point is 01:10:09 in our head that they can't be elite well Tannenhill's elite by any measure the last year and a half and like I said the numbers say he's top five the delta between his play in Miami and in Tennessee is really Sam Donald's best friend, in my opinion. It's his get out of jail card. And I think what Derek Henry is to Ryan Tannahill positively, because I am acknowledging
Starting point is 01:10:37 that, we're talking about Arthur Smith a lot as a head coaching candidate. You also need to be careful, proceed with caution because of the 250 pounds, 6'7 running back that's just running through motherfucker's faces on the rag. The effect that Derek Henry has on Tannhill positively, I'd say that's like a quarter of what Gase is to Darnold negatively. I really do believe that.
Starting point is 01:11:04 And I'm not saying that Darnold is going to be a great player, but don't tell me we we can properly evaluate them right now. If you're a team like the Colourn't, which the rumor mill has churned up, maybe looking hard at Sam Darnold, they're gonna be in a position where, in my opinion, this is one of the weirdest positions in sports.
Starting point is 01:11:29 You take a quarterback on kind of a one year. It works out but not that well, and you're kind of middling, and you got a young roster, the windows open, but you gotta look again and you don't have anybody at the top of the draft. If you're the Colts, are you looking at Sam Darnold? Yeah, sure, why not?
Starting point is 01:11:47 I think there are proposed trades. There's a ton of trades floating out there and we can get some later in the week. I think that this one, I think that this one is one I would make if I were the Colts, depending on the price. It's not too steep, I like it because you gotta think about their core. The entire core is young.
Starting point is 01:12:08 If you hit on Sam Darnold, you've got Buckner, you got the young running back, the young wide out, you've got the young guard, all you've got Darius Leonard all your best players are young and if you add a young quarterback to that group it just feels like everybody grows together
Starting point is 01:12:28 and you'd be pairing him with one of the best offensive minds in the game and Frank Wright I like to move a lot so I don't judge you know Sam Darnold in this situation again just a reminder Joe Flacco took a 29 yard sack in the red zone
Starting point is 01:12:44 to ensure the shutout 28 Okay. 29 would have been the record. I'd hate to go over on that. 28. Listen, Flacco is... Elusive.
Starting point is 01:12:54 ...is working for the Jets and he's working for the Jets. Like, he's working and he's working and he's working. And I would imagine that meeting after the game, they're like, listen, man, like, we said you just had to lose. You didn't have to, like, get a shut out. That's too hard of a sell if you're Joe Flacco. Tone it down a little bit. It's called overacting.
Starting point is 01:13:16 It's called overacting. They have the bills, chiefs, Pats, Chargers, Dolphins, Raiders, Hawks, Rams, Browns, and Pat's left. And it's got to leave Jets fans to wonder, is this the lowest point in team history? Or the highest. Man, I'm telling you, that quarterback
Starting point is 01:13:32 in Clemson's really good. He's gonna be good. Owen 16, 1 in 15, 2 and 14, this is one of the years to do it. Pandemic season, asterisks, all over the place. Yeah, this is the year to do it. It's almost like people are going to forget it happened.
Starting point is 01:13:49 Speaking of, my playoff, Cleveland Browns. Yep, yep, yep. Might want to forget 38 to 7 in Pittsburgh on Sunday. They might. And I guess when I was watching the side TV, by this time, they had been relegated to the side TV. The money was in the bar and the money was in the account, essentially at this point.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Side upper or side lower? Side upper. Okay. I saw Case Keenham trot out on the field, and I was wondering if it was health or if it was, you know. The Jimmy G. Playbook blueprint. Yeah, well, I mean, that worked out for the Niners, but beware a little bit of, yeah, just beware of Case Keenum coming in
Starting point is 01:14:37 and managing the game and being able to make throws from in the pocket as well as outside the pocket. We've talked a lot about Baker struggling from inside the pocket. We know he was hurt this weekend. We also know that the Steelers smell blood. Like that's what that defense was playing like. Blood in the water. Bud Dupree, T.J. Watt, Hayward, Toit.
Starting point is 01:15:03 They lost Evan Bush, which is a big deal. I worry about that. But you had a Minka Fitzpatrick sighting. People were freaking out. He was a victim of his own success last year. with the pick six terrible throw terrible throw by Baker
Starting point is 01:15:20 and you know this is one of those games where I'm reading and hearing that Baker's ribs are as bad as they are if I learned in the broadcast that Baker Mayfield is a side sleeper what do you think the Steelers know about his ribs?
Starting point is 01:15:38 Like that's how much this is being talked about I don't know how it got to be such a big talking point this week but the Steelers know that too and you can play good clean football and try to crack somebody's ribs it's just one of those injuries that's the breadbasket
Starting point is 01:15:54 the strike zone is you can only try to murder somebody's strike zone I mean the window is only so big and when it's in the strike zone I think it's okay to say we're going after this cat's midsection fairly between the whistles
Starting point is 01:16:11 two steps and they did Bud Dupree stood him up on one play and Hayward finished him and it looked like he was down for the count. Have you ever worn a flack jacket? I never wore a flat jacket. I thought it would. I already looked like I have a flack jacket on
Starting point is 01:16:27 as a white male with love handles on the field. Like have you ever just put one on? Nah. Nah. Makes two of us. Yeah, no. I don't plan on wearing one either. I don't plan on breaking any more ribs in my life.
Starting point is 01:16:40 And by the way, on the defense, although Tony Romo thought T. Jay Watt made like every play, like the dogs are all over the field for this group. They're really good. And again, Baker with another poor performance of the Browns, with another poor performance against their big test in division. Like, again, this is a team and we called it last week. Good, not great.
Starting point is 01:17:02 And they're not a joke anymore, but until they beat teams in their division or at the top of the standings in the NFL, we can't do the Browns, to the Super Bowl this year, question mark, headlines anymore. We can't do it. I'm not doing it. I'm not playing into it. I'm not going to spend much more time talking about the Browns than what we already have here
Starting point is 01:17:24 because it would be unfair to the other teams. The Jets at least are a dumpster fire that is entertaining. The Browns are a good team that plays way down sometimes. Brown should be favored in five of their next five. So they're currently four and two. Maybe we can revisit if they're eight and three or nine and two here in a month. If they're 8 and 3 and 9 and 2 in a month, they're still going to have
Starting point is 01:17:47 to beat the good teams in the playoffs. So again, good team, maybe a playoff team. Monitor the quarterback situation. You know the Tyrod situation in L.A. It's totally different. It's kind of the opposite. Your high draft pick is playing and gets hurt in Cleveland rather than vice versa
Starting point is 01:18:03 in L.A. But the deal is, and we saw this with Haskins in Washington, when you're not the front office's guy and you're not the coach's guy, you're in trouble. Or at least you're in the crosshairs. And I'm not saying it would be the right move,
Starting point is 01:18:20 but what I'm saying is if Case Keenham comes in the next couple weeks, and if this rip thing lingers, you never know what happens. This is the NFL. Kevin Stefansky didn't draft him. Barry didn't draft him. You got a new GM. You got a new coach. I'm just saying keep an eye on it.
Starting point is 01:18:34 I'm not saying they're going to take his job. I don't know some people are going to digest this as this being the take, but I'm saying monitor it. Bingles next week, look out. Also, Odell leadership on the sideline. And they painted it as such. That was wonderful to see. Here's my thing on the Odell thing.
Starting point is 01:18:56 Odell, from everything I hear, is a great teammate. Every time I've ever been around him, I really like him, and he's a great football player. And he's probably assumed a leadership role in that locker room. But he has also violently attacked Annette, gotten in some fights on the field, and, like, this shit happens. This is, I've shown emotion. I've punched inanimate objects in the locker room.
Starting point is 01:19:19 I've thrown things on the sideline. Like, shit happens. And I am all for the double standard tweets with Odell to point out that he is unfairly painted and New York media was really unfair to him. But Tom Brady catching astray and that whole thing is the dumbest fucking thing ever. And it was like a layup last week. Every blue check account was, oh, well, Tom just yelled at Ryan Johnson.
Starting point is 01:19:43 and his leadership, but when Odell attacks Annette, I'm like, this is a dumb tweet, man. How about like pick somebody who's not a goat to use as the second leg of your very trendy little 240 characters? Like Jordan got the pass. We watched the last dance all summer, eight to 10 hours on loop of him calling Scotty Borrella bitch, and we were all like, oh, look at the leadership.
Starting point is 01:20:11 That's what LeBron doesn't do. do. LeBron needs to call his teammates bitches more and like fight guys in practice. Then Tom Brady yells at a guy and the only two instances we can compare are Ryan Jensen and, you know, Odell's outbursts that he's had time to time. Odell is a good teammate, a good football player, probably a good leader. He's a great football player. but that was just it was just it just seemed dumb to me to make brady the the punchline of
Starting point is 01:20:48 of that really tired joke last week um best defense in the league what do you think do you think it's Steelers you think it's Steelers i agree some people were saying the bears are the best defense in the league and i actually i think it's compelling uh again after yesterday listen Bridgewater's day was rough um started with a pick his first pass i believe and finished with the game ceiling interception as well. And the first one puts the game in a bind for them. You're not going to play the Bears this year and hope to
Starting point is 01:21:20 you've got to be in phase against those guys or you have to have a lead. Down 7-0 immediately is not how you want to play against them. It led to the Komet. Cole Komet, saw him play live at Notre Dame Stadium. Touchdown. Claypool, too. Teddy had season loads across the board.
Starting point is 01:21:40 even yards per attempt. Okay, and that's bad because he was at the bottom when it comes to yards per attempt. We said it would be tough to dink and dunk, and it was. To their credit, they had 10 big plays yesterday, which wasn't bad,
Starting point is 01:21:52 but the underneath stuff that he's lived on really wasn't there. The evidence being the highest snap to release time for him all year. So like, when you see a guy on a new shot clock like that, that means you're doing things to take away the safety valves.
Starting point is 01:22:09 and he was 6 to 15 for 108 in an interception on passes of 2.5 seconds or more. So I'm saying all that to say, Teddy is best on a quick shot clock, being a point guard, distributing the ball. He's not best creating and doing the longer shot clock stuff. I mean, we talked about how many backs he's hit underneath all year. Mike Davis had two receptions for three yards yesterday. Five plus and 25 plus in each of the previous four games. So he was top three and catches the last month.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Yesterday it wasn't there. They were missing Curtis Samuel. I hammered the bears anyways, but once I saw Curtis Samuel was out, I was like, I'm on it all the way because he's a huge third down target for them. Samuel had a knee, but he was also tied for the league
Starting point is 01:22:53 with 11 receptions on third down. And I heavied up when I heard that. They go 3 of 13 on third down. Even with the chunk plays I mentioned, it really dried up in the red zone for them. And that's what made the Matt rule not going for it on fourth and short a few instances really confusing to me.
Starting point is 01:23:10 You can't kick field goals in that situation. You can't, especially, and this popped up in the Rams Niners game, there's always a consideration down low when you're playing an opposing offense. If you don't get it, at least they're pinned. Seems obvious, right? But the Bears and Nick Foles are kind of turnover prone. And to me, I'm going for it there. It's hard enough to get down there.
Starting point is 01:23:32 The Bears are good in the red zone. Take advantage of the opportunity and pin Nick Foles back if you don't get it. Interestingly, last night, the interception of the end zone that Jared Gough threw on fourth down was a pick and then some because it wasn't just, you know, like a PBU, you know, like a PBIU, your Niners would have been pinned. But if you pick that ball off, then you get 20 yards. And then the next player, too, the field is completely flipped after George Kittle Chunk. So that's a big consideration. I would have gone for it in those two situations. To touchback. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:07 that driving video game, Cruising USA maybe. Checkpoint. I love that game. Touchback. I love that game. It feels like touchback could be a sounder maybe on broadcast. Touchback. Maybe we can pull some cruising USA sounders for this pod.
Starting point is 01:24:24 Yeah. Maybe every time we change segments. Ooh, that's good. That's good. We just fell into something. Don't rock saying that. And Teddy's tough day kind of culminated late when he missed that fourth downthrow and was picked on the following possession for the seal.
Starting point is 01:24:40 So the pass rush made the money in Chicago. Four sacks, six hits, 29 attempts, 12 pressures and 7 hurries. Top five pressure rate on the weekend, and Quinn forced that last pick. Mack forced an earlier pick six. That might have been, it should have been. Fuller got called for the PI, said he was there early. I don't think so. Also a Mack sack backed up, led to good field position,
Starting point is 01:25:06 and that led to a key field goal that pushed it to 10 to 3 rather than 7 to 3 at that point. 97 also had a sack in the red zone which forced the 48-yard field goal. So if you add all those sacks and pressures up, that's a bunch of points off the board. That's at least two scores, really, about,
Starting point is 01:25:26 for on the tab of that D-line, and they've been really good. By the way, Fuller, I mentioned earlier, getting jobbed on that call yesterday. You got jobbed a week earlier. Did he get fined on that? I don't know. You saw when he blew up that Bucks running back
Starting point is 01:25:43 or receiver on the crossing route. And it's just been a tough couple of weeks for Fuller, who's a great football player. That sequence, had that stood as a pick six, would have been the third turnover in as many plays in that game yesterday. Eddie Jackson, forced fumble, Foles, bad pick, then this.
Starting point is 01:26:00 And I think the biggest question coming out of yesterday, a hidden question, is can the bear's defense do what it's, what it did to Teddy Bridgewater and others to somebody like Aaron Rogers who looked very human yesterday. That division has been one of the most like, ah, fuck it, throw away the key.
Starting point is 01:26:18 Like, we know what's happening in the north after a month. Like, we're just sure about it. I don't know. Are we? Yeah. You're sure. Pretty sure. What I'm curious about, though, is matchup-wise. I'm not talking about the bears every week.
Starting point is 01:26:31 How are the bears going to match up against Aaron Rogers this year? I look forward to it. Panthers, wear your silver breeches. What are you doing? Match the lid. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Silver, pretty blue and then white. It didn't work. It almost was a great look. Steelers, Browns, fabulous. Beautiful. Beautiful.
Starting point is 01:26:52 Awards. Let's hit him real quick before we get out of here. Best and worst plane rides, what say you? Going right back to Charlotte, North Carolina. Chicago Bears.
Starting point is 01:27:03 Atop the division. Again, thinking you might have something is even better than having something. Yeah, that's what they said. And I like Chicago, Illinois, a great deal, even though it's one of very few cities that I've cried inside of. You've cried in Chicago? Oh, yeah, I cried a lot. Hey. Hey.
Starting point is 01:27:24 You want to tell us real quick what happened? Yeah, sure. My team lost a basketball game. It was leading by 15 with nine minutes to go with a trip to the final four on the line. and my team doesn't go to Final Fours. You didn't cry around me though. No, you weren't there. I wasn't there that year.
Starting point is 01:27:42 Yeah, Khan. Yeah, in the United Center, Malachi Richardson, who was never to be heard from again, went off Syracuse as a 10-Z. Oh, this is that game. Goes to the Final Four. And I cried. It was in New York that we blew
Starting point is 01:27:55 a very winnable game to the Spartans. Right. That was Magic Johnson night. Magic Johnson night. When you saw Magic Johnson in the urinal. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to go Broncos' best ride home.
Starting point is 01:28:12 Listen, when you live in Denver, you don't like leaving Denver. That's a beautiful place. Foxborough, listen, objectively, not so much. Objectively, I think most people wouldn't look at Foxborough and say like this is a, it's some gorgeous country up here. Shopping malls? Cranberry bog. Patriot Place, great football team,
Starting point is 01:28:36 nice people, I live there right behind the stadium, but it's no Denver. And to get on a plane after a big win like that, head west, picking up time. Chicago, picking up an hour. Picking up a couple hours to get to Denver, I believe it's on mountain time, but very aptly on mountain time.
Starting point is 01:28:56 It's just a, it was a big win for them. It was a big win for them. And it has to feel good. in this spot before I've been on terrible teams. I've been on the Jets type teams. I've been on the Broncos type teams and I've been on the, you know, take your pick, the Seahawks, Packers type teams. The teams in the middle sometimes can have like very naturally a lot of fun because there's no pressure on you like the five and O teams. Everybody has written the Broncos off, right? Probably should. You know, they would have had to get off to a hot start. Although with the playoffs
Starting point is 01:29:31 the way they are this year. You never know. Drew Locke's back. They feel like they're building a little bit, although I don't know if Fanjo is going to see the entire build. There's excitement, but there's not so much that there's people watching your every move and they're holding you to a high standard. You're also not a bad team, so you're not a joke.
Starting point is 01:29:50 You're kind of in the middle. And when a middling team picks up a big, unexpected win like this, the plane rides are really fucking fun. I've been on them. the worst for me probably the Packers by the way we didn't bring this up Aaron Rogers
Starting point is 01:30:04 as they pointed out on the broadcast there has had a tough time in Tampa two injuries bunch of picks do you have a Tampa Bay in your personal life? Yeah Miami really yeah never never good never good for you first time I ever went down to Miami
Starting point is 01:30:22 we played the Hurricanes you were a rookie and I had a job to do with the Virginia football I was there radio broadcast you you you came down with us I believe on the team charter and it was a noon kickoff I think
Starting point is 01:30:38 yeah and uh getting to the radio booth look up at our fellows and they start laughing at me and I say what and they say you have glitter all over your face you and I guess had found our way to the club the night before oh we were in the club and uh it's just it's it's never a good time We were in mansion, I think.
Starting point is 01:30:59 It's a fog for days. We were at one of those clubs where they just, nobody had occurs to them to, like, maybe go home and sleep. Right. Well, it ended at live. Live. 6 a.m. type thing? Heck yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:12 I can't. And Al Groh had us at Don Shula's hotel, which was roughly seven hours away by taxi. No Uber in those days. I am good for, and I've always been good for this, surprise disappearance. from the bar.
Starting point is 01:31:28 Have you ever noticed that? No, I tried to do it at your house this weekend. You just did it. You stood up and said, I'm going to leave now. In the middle of curb. We were watching curb. I'm going to leave now. All right, good night.
Starting point is 01:31:40 That was good by you. Thank you for that. I don't like doing that. I hate the fucking thing where people can't leave. Right. Drives me nuts. I'll just get up and leave dinner. And everybody else can deal with the awkwardness after I leave.
Starting point is 01:31:52 It's like 9.30. The check's been paid, dude. Also, if we're at a bar at 1 a.m., and I realized that I would probably rather be eating some tequitos and packing a dip or, you know, home playing video games or hitting my pen in privacy. I'm gonna leave. I'm gonna tell maybe one person and I'm gonna leave
Starting point is 01:32:11 because the problem is when you tell people at the bar that you're leaving, everybody tries to convince you to stay. It's loud. You can't, you know, you don't speak well at that, in that juncture in the night. I am good for a, I'm getting the fuck out of here. I was feeling no announcement. LD level anxiety trying to figure out how to get out of your living room on Saturday night.
Starting point is 01:32:32 Man, all you had to say was what you said. Yeah, I kind of. Let's make a pack right here. To be fair, and I'm going to sign this pact that you propose, I think I had tried to get out. We pressured you. A time or two before, and it was not one curb. Yeah, and then we couldn't find the perfect curb. Right.
Starting point is 01:32:51 Right. Yeah, worst plane ride, the Packers leaving Aaron Rogers. version of your Miami Tampa Bay viewing party I don't have a lot of awards today but I'm going to go with Miami the dolphins who are like
Starting point is 01:33:06 killing it this year on the low point differential I think I read that they're in the plus by a relatively large margin here and 47 yeah Brian fucking Flores only team in the FCEs
Starting point is 01:33:22 and the green they're the I love them I love B-Flow I'm pulling for them. I'm excited for them. And they're watching Houston continue to lose games and drive the value of those two picks they landed from them up, up, up, and away.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Early picks too. I'll go viewing party Seattle Seahawks. They look at some number one seat competition, Green Bay, lose their first game. They see the L.A. Rams take their second loss in the division. Arizona Cardinals have a game Monday night against Dallas. and Seattle gets a sick back, get healthy, 5 and O. And Jamal Adams is ecstatic.
Starting point is 01:34:02 Oh, yeah. Jamal Adams is sitting at home, like super excited to see what's going on in New York. It's one of those spots that I'm sure like there's a consideration where he definitely wants to root against the organization because he won it out, whether that was wrong or right or like, whatever, damn the implications of a player forcing his way out. Again, if a player doesn't want to be there, you should always just be like, well, see you later,
Starting point is 01:34:29 because isn't the old cliche that you got to want to be here to win? I think it's a fine line you walk between rooting against the organization and rooting against your former teammates. Because it has to be a consideration if you're Jamal. St. Louis Memorial. Nope. The Frank Gore Love of the Game Award sponsored by Tor at all. formerly the St. Louis Memorial Award. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:57 In honor of Frank Gore playing for the Jets this year, we got to shout him out in perpetuity for that. I'm going to give it to my guy, Carson Wentz. Listen, hasn't played well this year for much of the season.
Starting point is 01:35:11 Hasn't taken care of the football. Didn't take care of the football on one play yesterday, but it wasn't in the passing game. Quarterback design run, coughed up to cookies, led to points in a game that's like 17 to nothing at about half time.
Starting point is 01:35:24 You look at that and you're saying to yourself, gosh, we just take care of the football. It's a lot closer of a ballgame than you think. But a gutsy performance for him. And this is why I know he's from the Dakotas. I know he spends his days in a duck blind. It's not your Philly packaged guy. You know, he's on the surface, not a Philly guy,
Starting point is 01:35:51 but he is a Philly guy in his guttiness. I think it's actually his grittiness. I actually think it's one of his the qualities to get him in trouble on the field. He won't quit on plays and that leads to some ill-advised throws
Starting point is 01:36:06 some sacks. Yesterday he was not the problem and coming off a week where they scored 30 points basically in Pittsburgh against the best defense in league, right? With Fulgum. could be your boy. And Ward. It could be mine.
Starting point is 01:36:23 Expires at midnight. Maybe I'm playing a head game with you. And Melvin Gordon. And Melvin Gordon. Say yes. Say yes right now. Say yes right now. Say yes. Say yes right now. Yes right now. His fingers are crossed. After that week where you're like, okay, I mean, he didn't play perfect. He made some poor throws, but the output is up against a very good team. The bird scored touchdowns in the last four or six possessions yesterday against another defense that's supposed to be
Starting point is 01:36:52 one of the things in the NFL. He got crushed a lot. A ton of his drops on side TV when I glanced over were slow motion just like it was on loop him just getting
Starting point is 01:37:07 railroaded. And that makes sense because you're starting one out of your five real offensive linemen that you trotted out for for the opener and including like Brandon Brooks I don't know how that factors into that statistic
Starting point is 01:37:23 but Brandon Brooks was lost for the year before the year even started you're down to your third tackles on both sides and a fourth guard and again you're throwing to Shadow Men in the program it is all too familiar a spot for Carson Wentz this is one of those hang in there buddy awards and continue to because news just came down
Starting point is 01:37:44 that Zach Ertz will miss three to four weeks and Miles Sanders is likely out against the Giants on Thursday. First off, I'm really worried about my friend. High ankle for Zach. And those are a motherfucker. Also, I propose a trade. Okay. Zach Earth's had one of his best days of the year last yesterday.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Okay. I'll take anybody on your team. Okay. I just noticed that Fulgum. Fuck, man. Zach's hurt. Has 23 targets the last two. weeks. I might want to hold on to Travis
Starting point is 01:38:23 Fulgum. Yeah, it's fine. I don't want them anyways. I'll take Ertz off your hands for Jason Sanders. No, I'm going to I'll be proposing this trade. Listen, this sucks, man. It sucks. Like being on a football team that's bad and they are bad. That doesn't mean they're not
Starting point is 01:38:39 gutsy. It's so funny that all the fans always go straight to. Has this team given up and that sort of thing? No, they're just not, the roster's not very good and people are hurt. And if you look at the pressure, the duress numbers he was under pressure on 47% of dropbacks that's the third straight week that he was over 40% in that category that's the first time since that stat actually started getting
Starting point is 01:39:03 tracked in 2009 that an Eagles quarterback is under so much pressure so I just for Eagles fans I know it's not easy to say this and I have been hard on Carson this year you're listening like oh he fucking he's he's he's a Carson apologist no I was hard on Carson this year called it like I saw it last year when he was playing better and you gave him credit for. And this year he's played bad. But yesterday he was not the problem. And if they can start to get healthy as you give me that news, maybe some confidence can be restored and cars can go on a little bit of a run.
Starting point is 01:39:36 That's going to be encouraging tracking into late this year and next year. The slow starts are killing them though. Big old game Monday night. Cowboys win. They get to three and three, which feels like they're just zooming away from the rest. of the division. They lose their two and four. Philly's still one, four and one. Giants. Washington, still alive at one in five.
Starting point is 01:39:59 Like, just, like, still alive. Not like very alive. Just hanging on. Nah, like, we're good. If Dallas loses and goes to two and four, they're a game out. Game ball. Do you have one? I do. His name's Phil Rivers. He was left for dead in the first half. People have already been calling for Jacoby Brissette. And he engineers a 21-point comeback, throws three tuds,
Starting point is 01:40:28 371 yards, Colts go to four and two with a great O line, as discussed, great defense. They have something. Bingles are just going to be a trap for everybody this year.
Starting point is 01:40:41 Yeah, they were a trap for me taking the win total over. They have now squandered a 20-something point lead. They've lost basically an overtime game. They've lost another. close game to the Eagles. I mean, I could be sitting pretty now. I'm gonna call him full rivers.
Starting point is 01:41:00 It doesn't really make sense and I haven't fleshed it out. But instead of Phil Rivers, I'm to call him full rivers. Okay. Now. Because your heart is full making this game ball pick. Yeah, eyes clear.
Starting point is 01:41:14 Full, Philip, Philip Rivers with football game wins. Yeah, for sure. That's what he's doing. So you got Philip Rivers, Philip Rivers. Game ball. I got Todd Bowles. Listen, your linebackers were on fire yesterday.
Starting point is 01:41:30 You got a huge win. I thought that this defense was, we said it coming in the season, the strength of the team. And all we were talking about was Tom and that whole gang. And they have been hot and cold at times. But if you look at certain analytics, they've been a top five defense for the last 20 games or so. And they looked like it yesterday. Devin White and Levanti David,
Starting point is 01:41:58 both very underrated, especially Levanti David. I've long admired his game and he hasn't gotten the credit he deserves. They combined for 18 tackles, four hits, two and a half sacks, five sacks, on the front as well, 13 quarterback hits. They scored on defense. They provided that spark.
Starting point is 01:42:14 They lost Vita Vair, who a lot of people thought was going to be a big deal. And Aaron Jones did nothing. So Todd Bowles, while the dumpster fire rages, sorry, in Miami down south. And the dumpster fire continues to rage while the Jets team plane lands. And they're watching highlights of Todd Bowles' defense
Starting point is 01:42:36 just wrecked shop. He gets the game ball. Can I tell you who stepped in for Vita Vaya? Whom. Rakeem Nunez Rogers. And bald and he has a really ugly number. What is it? It's like 45 or 55, or it's not 45,
Starting point is 01:42:51 but it's one of those. Uh-oh. What is it? 56. It's 56, which is not a D-Tackle number. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:58 But it was worn by one of us in the studio. It's also worn by L.T. It was indeed. No, I'm just saying, I don't know why you don't like Philly. Well, I just don't, oh yeah,
Starting point is 01:43:06 there we go. I just don't, here's my thing with 56. And it's the same thing with, I don't think offensive linemen should wear 50's numbers. I think only linebackers should wear them and edge players.
Starting point is 01:43:18 Now 50 is an interior lineman has never worked out great. in my opinion. 50 for me is Michael Singletary. Yeah, but 50 should only be Michael Singletary. In fact, I don't even think it's cool when linebackers wear it anymore. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:32 Kind of an ugly number. Yeah. My favorite number these days is 13. 13's dope. Yeah. Wanted to wear it in high school, but they wouldn't let me. You've been, well, speaking of 50s,
Starting point is 01:43:41 you wore 50s. I wore 55. I wore 55 in high school, but I was an end. Shout out to James Laronitis as well. Wanted to wear 13 because Alex Brown, remember the Florida defensive end?
Starting point is 01:43:51 at UVA, they just give you a pro number, make you wear pro socks. That's what it was. Yeah, unless Coach Groh really likes you, you're Darrell Blackstock and you get to wear number one. Maybe you just weren't his guy. I wasn't his guy, maybe.
Starting point is 01:44:04 Shout out to Coach Groh, this is my guy. All right, see you all Friday. Peace.

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