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Monday afternoon, we're going to talk about the Green Bay, Tampa Bay game, Battle of the Bays, as we like to call it.
And the game that it absolutely overshadowed the Jets dumpster fire that rages on every Sunday somehow on a TV near you.
Also, going to talk about Rams, Niners, and Debo Samuel, Mike Vrabble's clock management are the Bears the best defense in the NFL.
and a Sam Darnold trade that might be cooking.
Stay tuned.
Happiest of Mondays to everybody out there.
Hope you're having a great Monday.
It's the afternoon at this point
when you hear us dropping these jewels.
It is currently midday Monday and
I had a pretty good weekend.
How about you make?
Oh, I'd say it was up and down.
Up and down.
Yeah, as are most days, you know.
I had five kids in my house.
All yours.
Nah.
Two of them mine, three of them, my nieces and nephews.
Jits on Jits.
Jits on Jits.
And if you ever want to shut down a conversation about having another kid,
just invite a bunch of kids into the house.
Not that Meg and I are having that conversation.
Lord knows we waited long enough to have the first one.
Yeah, ages spanning.
Ages spanning, one and a half to five years old.
essentially. Yeah, bro. And right now, you've got to consider that these kids are a lot like us.
They haven't had a chance to socialize over the last six months. I would imagine House of Five Jits
atmosphere a lot like our first day at the bar whenever it's safe, whenever we deem it's safe
to go get drunk at an establishment after midnight. Like no social skills, just screaming at each other.
real touchy-feely not that you know we might be doing a lot of hugging and that sort of thing because we
haven't seen each other for some time that's what it's going to be like when they open this shit
back up for adults defecating everywhere just shitting people shitting in their pants at the bar
don't know how to act haven't seen people in months these kids hadn't seen kids in months
really for the most part and I survived I survived five kids in the domicile this weekend
So shout out to me there.
Also, we had, this is one of the highs of the weekend,
a really productive Water Boys and Chris Long Foundation virtual event.
We went virtual here in Charlottesville, Virginia,
and I brought my co-host along to help me get through it.
I was honored to be included.
A really great cause, waterboys.org.
Thanks to everybody who popped into the virtual event and raised money,
and thank you again for the plug, because I'm not good at plugging myself there.
30K plus is what I heard.
I heard $6.5 million.
Well, people.
Oh, yeah, people.
Dollar bills.
Thanks to James Laronitis, 30K plus.
I mean, my man stepped up to the plate not only did a Q&A, but I'm being serious for a second.
Some friends you play with are lifelong friends.
You know, they're not just teammates.
And, you know, they assume that role throughout life in different forms and fashions.
And James Laronitis, who been through a lot of the past.
last few weeks lost his pops, who was a wonderful man
and would greet us after home games in St. Louis.
Every week with a big bear hug and a smile.
Listen, the dude on three days notice with everything he has going on,
stepped up to the plate, showed up,
and then paid the rest of the check essentially for one well,
one large solar powered well that we're going to be implementing
in Tanzania.
Tanzania. Shout out also to the Glass Rose films, Nova kids that made a wonderful documentary that we were able to show.
There was, there was a hiccup. So like as we're getting ready to go live, um, live. Yeah, like live.
Fuck it, we'll do it live. Yeah, like, yeah, like that. Nicole Woody, who, uh, did a wonderful job of
throwing this thing together. As always, uh, she is, uh, the head of my foundation.
is three feet away from us, well six feet away from us.
Let's be real.
Yeah.
She was probably, she was over there.
She's about eight.
That's a good six.
That's an eight maybe.
I have, when I try to picture six,
I picture lying down.
Yeah, I just picture me laying down
would my head touch you?
Right.
And then I take away four inches
because I'm six, six foot four.
Nice.
I like that.
Shameless plug.
You're good at plugging yourself.
So Nicole's sitting right over there
and she's talking to the six and a half million people
who are on the Zoom chat.
and she's, you know, everybody take your seats,
kind of like you would at a theater.
It's getting quiet.
The pros here, because we do podcasts,
it's not a big deal.
It's a Zoom event.
We can tell Reed in this setting, Roxanne,
and he knows to cut.
Roxanne is our new code word for cuts.
Like, we do a lot of off the cuff here.
Roxanne is the, it's the safe word, in essence.
Get that content out of the pod.
content that shitty content that we just rolled the ball out there except for right now read these
roxans don't count yeah these we're just talking about roxan this is not a cut but we're kind
of like in this safe space where we think everything we say cowboy reed'll make it go away if it
doesn't work out and then this is what happened any comments you can type in a chat box
you can also type your questions for the q and a later with james lorence
Oronitis and Kyle Guy or Making and Chris in the Q&A box.
We'll get started in just a minute.
Did y'all hear that puke sound?
So I get home and my mom text me and says, who vomited before the virtual event today?
It actually went like this.
I told my lovely wife, Meg, a hilarious story about how I reached down to get my laptop
up and made an exaggerated my back hurts
and my neck hurts noise, which sounded
like a vomit sound. Do it, do the
sound. Yeah. Like,
that's the noise I make whenever I bend down
to get something. And then,
and then, yeah. And then Meg's like,
that was you? Your mom, like,
was hitting me up today. And the big mystery is
who puked on the, on the Zoom
call. Right. So nobody could see us.
It was just a holding screen at 11 a.m.
for three minutes until we
popped onto the screen. And the
problem is, we can get, we can,
we can catch a case of the giggles at times.
And you do your little bar hiccup.
And then I hear it in my ears.
So then I think it went over.
And indeed it did.
And then I can't stop laughing.
You're having a big silent laugh.
I start coughing, which is another-
Somebody's got COVID.
Good look on a virtual charitable event.
It was almost a really bad start.
We got it done, though.
Shout out to everybody who rolled up
and enjoyed our virtual event Saturday.
Also, little tease here Friday.
We're going to eat some Lucky Charms ice cream.
The people have spoken, they enjoyed that stone mailbag last week.
By the way, the idea of the stone mailbag is, I make you leave, we put the rest of the
pod in place so it's ready to roll out in the morning.
And as we're editing, I do a candy.
and I let that candy kind of absorb
and for people at home
who don't know edibles
that takes an hour or two
maybe depending what you've eaten
your metabolism and all that.
Fats help.
Avocados, nuts,
that sort of thing.
They help it kick in faster.
There's a word for it.
I'm not sure about it.
But I'm up here
talking about Lucky Charms
and my eyes are closing
and
da-na-na-da-da-na-na-da-na-na.
Levi-on-bell to the Chiefs.
So I got to stop Stone Mailbag and address the biggest NFL news off the top to put it at the front of the pot.
You got to be careful with the timing on Stone Mailbag.
News happens all the time in the NFL.
We will be eating Lucky Charms on Friday in ice cream.
I don't know about we.
I'm talking about the Royal Wee.
I'm going to be eating at least a pint and I'll probably do it during the pod.
And I'll let you know how that actually tastes.
I don't eat ice cream before 9 p.m.
and I eat plenty of it after 9 p.m.
Dumb rule because you don't move around after 9 p.m.
It just sits.
I don't need it after 10 p.m.
There's a window.
Okay.
Baseball last night because we do all the sports.
I'll sum it up in three words.
Atlanta team collapsed.
Which is a headline that you can just recycle
if you're the Atlanta Journal Constitution.
I can't.
I couldn't.
And I can't.
It just doesn't grab me.
Baseball.
Yeah, generally speaking.
I did go to the trouble of getting on to the correct channel for the 8th and 9th after the football game had ended.
Some website claimed 9.4 million viewers for Sunday night football, which wasn't really a close game for the most part.
And 6.4 million for the NLCS game 7.
Also, we know baseball is, well, basketball is king in L.A.
baseball is like the queen and football's like the jester.
Right.
So that's a bad sign for people saying go woke, go broke with the NFL, the whole tired,
look at the ratings, but I'm not going to look at the hockey ratings being down,
but I am going to look at the NBA ratings being down.
Let's just pick the leagues with the most black guys and say that the ratings are struggling
because they're too woke.
That's my favorite narrative right now.
except the lowly nineers and the kind of up and down Rams.
We can talk about that.
They swept the NFC East and their own two outside it.
They commanded more viewership than the game seven,
Balgham in baseball last night.
Do you know who is sweet?
Who's sweet?
Mama, ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-mooki.
Is he a baseball player?
Yeah, Mooky bets plays for the Dodgers.
Where's number 50?
Yeah.
Swaggy.
I know he.
I've heard he's sweet.
Yeah.
You know who else?
is sweet. Cody Bellinger
and he hit a dinger
to put his squad up and
essentially send them to the big show
and he pimped it.
Man, he was walking like
a wrestler
down to first base. Which is great.
It's great. I just never understand
the baseball and written rules.
It seems as though they've been
laxed.
Good, good, because they're stupid. I'm so
over it. In their version
of the bubble. Don't let the
hit a home run. You don't want to see him walk like a rass load at first. And when you strike him out,
go buck wild. Go crazy. Like the dude from the, it was the San Francisco team, the Giants.
Way back? Madison Bumgardner. He used to go ape shit after he threw a strikeout and then would
whine about every guy that literally looked at the ball when they hit like a 500 yard or 500 foot
Dinger. Who was that closer for a couple years who died all his hair black and was and was.
Yeah, that guy was pretty fun for a while. That guy was fun for a while. On purpose, I'm not
going to look it up because baseball doesn't deserve that. Nah, I guess baseball must be really
woke right now. I must have missed all the protests. That that must be what was driving the viewership
down. Same with hockey. Brian, Brian Wilson. Total Brian move. Just die everything black.
Yeah. John Smoltz had a sound bite last night that I didn't mind.
and I want to tee this up for you.
I want someone to develop an app
for all the second guessers
and the know-it-alls that are in our world
so that they can click time.
You know, timestamp it.
This is what I would do.
Okay, ain't wrong.
Or, okay, you were right.
But all the guys that,
all the people that can talk about
after the words, what they would do,
so somebody out there,
I know somebody's smart enough,
get an app
so that we can get all the second-guessers
in the armchair quarterbacks to tell you step by step.
So he's getting crushed on Twitter,
awful announcing, picked it up,
and he's like,
you're talking about Twitter, aren't you, John?
I see where John's going with this.
And of course, Twitter would ironically bash him
for having a decent idea,
like Twitter is just a hellhole.
John just couldn't get the words out.
I think what he meant to say was,
kind of like a fact checker,
like a better business,
of sports media members.
Like, okay, you called the Browns going to the playoffs.
Maybe they do.
Time stamped.
But that should be time stamped and it should go on your record so that when people
look you up, you have like a grade that corresponds with the entirety of your take
catalog.
And things could be classified as accurate synopsies, which would be weighed less.
or differently than a prediction.
I think that,
I think we're on to something here, John Smols.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Twitter doesn't have that edit function.
So there is,
there is some validity to the argument that,
hey, people are putting out their takes
on the Twitter website.
But you're selective with your takes.
You're selective with your takes.
There should almost be a NFL spreadsheet
that goes out to NFL media members
and to be verified by this third party organization,
you have to fill it out.
You can't run from certain predictions.
You have to make a call.
And you're graded on that.
And to join this elite group, it's like another check.
It's not a blue check.
It's like a green check or something.
You have to make your picks.
You can't.
And it could be reflected in your score if you shirk your responsibilities selectively and say,
I don't want to pick that game.
Yeah.
I think Smoltz is on to something.
Also, I think Smoltz has the most different voice based on face of all time.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I never thought he'd sound like that.
Yeah, no, that's what John Smolt sounds like.
This one's got a ring to it knowing you're a Giants fan.
Let's shout out Dave Gettelman in the Giants personnel department, shall we?
Let's not.
But you might want to because although D'Andre Baker's gone,
Danny Dimes is mediocre at this point.
Andrew Thomas was bench, but it was for disciplinary reasons,
which is not good when, you know,
a month in the season,
there's a bunch of guys that seem to be out playing you.
To be fair,
kind of a tough situation to play well in,
but they are playing chess, not checkers,
and I'll tell you why, Macon.
The dude who scooped and scored...
Tay Crowder.
Take Crowder.
Georgia Bulldog.
Georgia Bulldog.
He put the league on notice yesterday
on account of the Giants personnel department.
The Giants won yesterday thanks to him.
The last player drafted, okay?
That's some fucking value right there.
That's Mr. Irrelevant, if you haven't heard the old adage.
Or is that an adage?
Mr. Irrelevant?
Yeah.
Yeah, I wouldn't call that an adage.
Is it a moniker?
Yeah.
More of a moniker.
That's right.
So all the other teams made their picks, hundreds, before this cat.
And the other guys picked before him have to be sick,
because I know the graphics coming.
You know, you took this guy before Crowder, you took this.
Is anybody else responsible for 100% of a team's wins?
Any other rookie, 100% of a team's wins.
What's his name?
Crowder.
Tay Crowder.
Take Crowder.
Don't forget the name.
Here's the crazy part.
He knew he'd be the guy responsible.
They knew he'd be the guy responsible
for 100% of the win total at this point.
And they waited for him.
They deserve a lot of credit.
It reminds me of the Brady thing.
I mean, you talk about a poker face.
They knew it.
They had their guy, but they didn't have to reach.
They didn't have to reach.
They learned their lesson from Daniel Jones.
Don't reach, wait.
He'll be there.
And they got him in the Mr.
irrelevant spot and now they have a win.
Which sucks.
And I can't stand the Washington team.
I've never been able to my entire life.
That part feels good for a split second
until you think about, oh, great.
This is another four and 12 freaking season.
You're going to be picking sixth.
A lot of options there.
And your guy, Dave Gettelman,
is going to be making the pick.
It stinks.
I want one, Chris.
Shout out to them.
Also shout out.
out to David Vibora. It's always hard to say that name. David Vibora. It looks like I had no trouble
with it. Yeah, but you don't talk a lot here. So like when you talk, I expect you're talking to be
perfect. I say like a thousand words in a podcast. And I said it looks like I'd rather have said it sounds
like I had no trouble. Mike Vrabel, the clock god. Did you see this? He went Belichick on the
clock again. Yeah. So Houston up 30 to 29 with 340 to go. Nine yards is what they got on
first down. So they have second and one. And with like three 15 to go, the camera caught
Vrabel sending in a 12th man. And of course the dudes on the field are like nah. And he's like,
just walk. And he sends a dude out there. There's 12 people. They don't call it right away. They
call it at the snap. Flag flies. Announcers are like, what's he doing? This is a big mistake.
but then you remember that he's done this before when he fucked with the Pats last year
as far as manipulating the clock with delay of games and such two years ago it was astutely
pointed out that not by me of course because I'm not that smart that the the Jets did this
or he did this against the Jets as well so this is a thing and I actually like this and it
probably might lead to a rule change a lot like the Patriots wrinkle did
last season.
Needs to.
Yeah, it needs to.
It's a major loophole, but while it's here,
you've got to take advantage of it. And I like to move
because it does save time.
And at that point, you are trading time
for downs. Downs are not important
in that situation, especially in second and one.
Which I'm a big,
I know some people aren't, but like when you're
trailing late and you need the ball back
and they're milking the clock in the red zone,
I'm a big proponent of letting them
score. You are?
If need be, of course.
Yeah, I'm a big proponent.
I'm an even bigger proponent of the down 10.
As soon as I'm in field goal range, kick the field goal.
I am too.
I'm so glad you said that.
I know some people listening are barfing.
Right.
But it makes so much sense.
There's nothing more annoying than getting in the red zone,
spending six minutes in the high red and then kicking a field goal.
Just do it.
Just do it earlier, right?
Another thing came up with Mina Kimes last night, you know, your favorite take from Mina that you should just assenine.
And we love Mina Kines.
Love Mina.
I mean, she's, she's Wall of Fame for me as far as media members are concerned currently.
This analytic is ball of shame.
Well, you know, and this is of course a very subjective deal here for us.
And she would probably cite numbers and real trends and that's great.
but I'm just telling you, down in my gut as a football player
and it came up last night with the Rams and the Niners
where they save, they're down two scores, they're down 15,
they score, they kick the field goal.
They save the two-pointer for when it matters.
It's 24 to 15.
You want to kick the extra point and be down eight, one score, and a two-pointer?
Yep.
Or do you want to roll the dice and go for two?
Just so you know, just so you know what you're going to have to do,
fuck out of here, everybody.
that's so stupid you can't know no amount of math is going to convince me I can't wait till we have
around to have this discussion it's so dumb in real life and an old man al michael's was was with me on that
train last night is that the best guy to be with you no it comes like if you're arguing with somebody
in the analytics circle you're like well al michael's thought for sure not but i thought we didn't
like al because of the mask so the guy that won't wear a mask and complains about mask the entire broadcast
now agrees with you and you're happy about that.
Well, I'm, hey, there needs to be a common sense component to all these digits.
Also, two-point conversions were hot yesterday.
They were like hot in the streets.
They were like Hansel.
They were so hot right now.
Two for four, the Eagles went, luckily.
Jake Elliott just chilling.
Jake Elliott, just collecting dust.
Two-point conversion for Washington to try to win the game, right?
Do you like that?
I don't hate it because you're not a good football team.
But then that calls into question, you're really trying to win games right now?
Or?
Or is that a bad call and you're trying to lose games?
I don't know.
Vikings also went two for two.
But the Romeo Cornell call, he goes for two leading Tennessee by seven with 153 left.
I'm going to duck here because I don't know what the internet's saying, but I don't hate it.
I like it.
Yeah, I don't hate it, especially if you're one and four.
Put them away.
And it's not like you're up six, you're up seven.
Yeah, I got a better idea than getting mad at Romeo Connell about this thing like,
stop them on defense.
Stop Derek Henry.
Which isn't going to happen.
So go for two and win the game.
Or else they're going to go down and score and they're probably going to attempt an extra point,
which they did, and it went to overtime and you lost the toss.
Now, here's the deal.
Derek Henry ripped off a 94-yard or yesterday.
and I don't have a segue for this,
but when the biggest guy on the field
who's eligible to touch the football
goes 94 yards, something's broken.
Like the game is just,
take the cartridge out and blow on it.
It makes no sense.
It makes no sense.
But I think that call made a lot of sense.
I mean, if I'm on defense
and I see them drop back out
to go for the two-point conversion in that situation,
and we're not talking about six to eight,
we're talking about seven to nine,
it's terrifying for me.
And you can say that's a bad mentality as a player?
I don't think so.
Because as a player, you can only control what you can control.
It takes 11 guys to be perfect to not yield two points in that situation.
All it takes is one guy.
And that's what you're betting on all day long.
And in that situation, I would be terrified.
Shouts out to Debo Samuel.
Listen, dude, I want to level with you.
I don't love your team.
I love some players on your team.
Used to be a rival of ours.
But I'm not letting that cloud my judgment of your squad.
I just don't think you guys are going to the playoffs.
It's not personal.
I was wrong about the Rams last night.
And to the bitter end, I was up watching the game
and I stayed up for nothing because of Debo Samuel.
He ran through a motherfucker face, as Marshawn would say, last night on third and seven,
with the game on the line, essentially, because I think the Rams go score.
I don't know if they get two, but I think they go score.
There was plenty of time, and they were moving the ball well.
So Devo Samuel made me stay up too late, made me look like an idiot on my podcast, and cost me money.
Three units, he cost me.
Three units.
I was up a lot of units thanks to our troops, the midshipmen, support the troops.
troops and the Bears and the Steelers.
It was heavy on those.
But to stay up late, to look like an idiot on my own podcast, and to be costed money,
I couldn't pick a better guy to drive the nail in the coffin than Debo Samuel.
Love watching him play.
I do want to take a moment to remind Debo Samuel if he is a friend of the program somehow
or this gets back to him that we did.
We did beat them in the Continental Tire Bowl, 28 to nothing.
28-0.
You remember Debo's line in that game?
I don't.
He sat out to get ready for the NFL draft.
Another win for Debo.
Fuck.
I thought we had you.
Hey, shout out to Vegas for clearly predicting this Niners win a week ago.
I texted you a week ago.
Hey, this line is stinky.
We both just like, and all week,
I tried to rationalize it
and I was like, you know what, I'm not going to let Vegas scare me.
Right. That's what Vegas does. It makes you think twice.
Vegas is a bully.
I went the same way. I was like, nah,
everybody's going to be on the Niners because it stinks.
Yep. We're going to zag.
They were on the Niners for a reason. I guess they realized
that Cooper Cup would drop a ball in the end zone,
that they would have multiple miscues.
You know, Cooper Cup, who's usually automatic,
gets turned around on a deep ball.
That's right over his head.
and just opportunities like that
cost them all night long
and then the defense really for me
you know you have to do one thing to beat that team
with Jimmy who just got pulled in the second half last week
who's got a high ankle
and Chris Collinsworth is zooming in
and Isoing on one throw last week
well this throw you know he's not doing that with his ankle
and watch this six yard out
that he looks much more stable
disregard the fact that the throw last week
was for 45
I'm sure he feels better a week later,
but the bottom line is you look at his stat line,
that's not indicative of what they were asking him to do.
I mean, he didn't have to make big throws last night.
You knew George Kittle was a safety valve.
They were going to run gadgets.
They were going to get you moving sideways.
They were going to create extra gaps.
And you knew that they were going to try to run the ball up their ass.
Mostert was a horse.
Oh my gosh.
I feel terrible because one of the guys,
and we said this can happen to the best of us.
Micah Kaiser
got baptized our guy
who's been bawling. It happens.
Also,
face mask, offense.
Probably a face mask,
but here's the real issue
with most running through people
all last night.
We have been so desensitized.
A guy like Micah Kaiser
or anybody that got stiff farm last night
is just really blessed
that Josh Norman exists.
You know what I mean?
We are totally desensitized.
I will say this, just a terrific job of coaching by that team.
I think they're a tremendously coached football team.
I've just had issues with some of their personnel and the injuries.
Do I think they're going to the playoffs?
I still don't.
And I'll keep saying it because all pub is good pub.
And when they go to the playoffs and everybody puts me on the stupid list,
at least people think, oh, that guy has a podcast.
Yeah.
You know, like, Salah did a great job.
The corners played great.
the Rams made too many mistakes
and Jimmy's stat line look way better
in what they asked him do
because the Rams had to stop the run
and the quick game and they couldn't do it.
They felt like they were behind
on second and third down all game
like third and longs and that sort of thing
like I'd have to go back
I'm sure somebody would check the stats
there's only so much time in a day.
But needless to say
the game plan worked perfectly
and you didn't hear a lot from Aaron Donald
because when you have to worry about
getting doubled and triple team
and the quick passes
and the hard zone act
you're never attacking
and they're well-coached football team.
So shout out to Debo and the Niners.
I was wrong.
I'll holler at Doc Emrick.
He's retiring.
He's the best play-by-play guy.
There is hockey fellow.
Yeah, hockey.
Doesn't take a breath.
Unfortunately.
Three periods.
Unfortunately, nobody watched Stanley Cup playoffs this week
because I heard a bunch of,
or this year because a bunch of players were protesting.
So it sucks that he had to go out that way.
Hey, if you go woke, you go broke.
That's what they say.
Woke, broke.
Rhymes also doesn't have to be true.
Love you, Doc.
Did you see the fucking house LeBron James just bought?
No.
Love houses.
A lot of chickens.
Here's what we should do.
Can you pull that up?
Yeah.
And we'll have you kind of list that house for us on the spot.
I typed in LeBron James,
hours.
I do want to shout out while you find it.
Shouts out to the Liberty Cuckolds.
This is my fantasy ball club.
O'N5.
I'm not even going to like try to act like I know what the fuck I'm doing.
I don't.
Then when I think I do,
I really don't.
You know,
I could have complained.
And so we were snake bit last week when Ridley posted a goose egg to send me to
own five.
I mean,
I needed like 14 points.
10 points.
He went for nothing.
Zero.
O'n five.
This week has been absolute bullshit.
I'm up 10 points, but let me lay the scene here.
Set the scene.
Juju for two and a half points.
Okay?
Fitzpatrick plays too good in the first half.
He plays so good, 22 points in the first half,
that he plays himself into a situation
where they're running the football
and Tua comes in at the end.
Not to mention the insane,
interception that we saw in the Jets game.
Did you see that?
Yep.
I mean, that was skill involved there, but there's luck too.
That was a lie.
I mean, and, and, and Fitsy is fucked because of that, and I'm fucked because of that.
And I might end up on a billboard because of stuff like this.
I am going to be on a Marks and Harrison looking ass billboard on 29 north outside of
Charlottesville.
I am 0 in 5.
And if I don't get some.
great play tonight from Clyde Edwards E-Lair
whose hair should be on fire
because the Levi-on-Bel signing
I might be fucked
let me tell you what's going on
not to mention Godwin and Parker's teams
played too good yesterday
so they weren't throwing the football
thought they'd have big days
I'm up eight and I've got Greg Zerline and Clyde
and he's got Kelsey and Edmonds
and Edmonds is a guy who's emerging as the main option
in Arizona.
You're projected win by eight points.
Your win probability is 63%.
It's more than half, but I don't feel good about it.
That is more than half.
That is more than half.
Hey, I'll shoot you straight.
You're not very good at this at all.
Yeah, no.
I would pick real,
I would pick this rather than the inverse, though.
Being good at it?
Being good at it.
No, I would pick being good at real football
and not good at fantasy football over the end.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's worked out good.
Yeah.
Can I take a piss break?
Sure.
Golly, I'm hydrated today.
Can I tell you something?
You know what sucks?
Meeting fans and bathrooms.
Magic Johnson and I had this experience.
Oh, you did meet Magic Johnson.
I reckon I was playing the role of fan.
Yeah, probably, unless he's a friend of the program,
but this was like 2013, so do tell.
He was weighing.
And I came in after he had started up.
And I was like, wow, Magic Johnson.
Not, look, Magic Johnson goes bathroom.
Then he leaves.
I followed him.
Not I followed him pee.
I didn't follow him.
Well, I did actually follow him afterwards.
We, uh, all right.
Sounds to me like you checked his dick out and then followed him in the hallway.
I was, I didn't.
I didn't.
It was not a side-by-side situation.
But you didn't stop him.
It was a weight situation.
You got the picture, but on the floor.
Yeah, MSG, outside the bathroom.
Just know.
Minutes later.
If you're a fan, don't even go for the elbow or the knucks in the bathroom.
No, wouldn't have dreamed of it.
It's like if you're a fan and you meet your favorite athlete in the bathroom,
just chalk it up as bad luck because there's no good play there.
There's no good play.
And...
What?
What?
you're pointing at
pissed on my
on my intimidator sandals
he peed on his sandals
I was in a rush
there's a drop of
of piss
on my Dale Earnhardt sandals
that I bought from NASCAR to positively
reinforce the banning of the Confederate flag
it's the only merchandise
that I positively
reinforce that move with
that's a big drop I shouldn't be forced to work
in these hazardous conditions
it'll dry
I got socks on with my sandals
For those of y'all wondering
I saw Magic Johnson
I was in a bathroom
I was in a bathroom
And I thought
Wow magic Johnson
He was in the urinal
Yeah
I was pissing right next to him
Nah I was waiting
I mean that'd be the most awkward thing to say
Hey
Hey magic Johnson
Hey
Magic Johnson
Anyways
We were talking about
about fantasy football.
My club,
the houses,
is going to go to
five and one this evening.
Good for you.
As long as Dittka's Stiffies
don't go off.
Dittka's Stiffies
featuring this evening
Zeke Elliott
and I've got Kyler the creator.
I'm in fine shape.
I'll go to five and one.
How about a trade proposal?
Yeah, sure.
Perhaps the first ever
fantasy football live trade proposal
I can guarantee everyone listening.
There's no terms of
not been discussed to this point.
No.
I got your boy on my squad, though.
Don't even know how trades work in fantasy football.
If you agree, we'll consummate the trade and it'll go through.
A new player will be on your team.
I've got a receiver.
You mentioned juju, two catches for six yards.
I got a guy.
I got a guy who has scored in the last three weeks, each of the last three weeks put up
fantasy points of 13.7, 31.2, 19.5.
Well, let's talk turkey.
To boot, he's one of your guys.
It goes by the name of Travis Folgum.
man listen i know what you're doing here i'd be willing to send you Travis fulgum and a Denver broncos running back
to take a chance on juju coming back to form you doing the by low thing well for sure um listen
you want to hold on to two for six be my guest you're o in five and a half when does this trade
go away when when is it expire when are you taking the offer off midnight midnight yeah
Folgum can't help me on the field tonight.
Correct.
Which is fucked because these are just...
Folgum played Sunday.
I know.
I know, but what I'm saying...
It's a joke.
It's a bit.
Oh, got it.
Yes.
He can't fly to the facility
and play for us tonight.
Right.
Okay.
So I get till midnight tonight.
Yep.
Okay.
I'll be sure to...
You can take Philip Lindsay or Melvin Gordon.
With Fulgum.
I'll take juju off your hands.
Hey, for the listeners getting the,
um,
tweet at me and tell me if this is a good idea or not.
I don't want it to go to the,
I don't want it to go to the comment section under the podcast
because he reads that a lot.
He's obsessed with.
I'm not obsessed.
The folks have been nicer and it's,
it's really made a positive impact on my life.
Well, I think you've positively impacted the pod.
It's great having you.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Thank you.
I don't know about that.
So, yeah, we'll see what happens to the cuckles tonight.
Let's talk about some real football.
shall we? Green Bay, Tampa Bay, the Battle of the Bays.
That's right. That's right.
When you're right, you're right and you're right.
Also, very windy in Tampa Bay yesterday.
You saw the ref's little squishy pants flying around.
You saw all the gusts.
And I was kind of wondering, because I saw one of those,
we talked about this, the charts,
I saw one of these charts that somebody retweeted this weekend
where people are sitting at the table,
and it's like an outline of people,
so it's computer generated,
and they're just barfing viral loads on each other,
and it signifies a conversation.
Just show you maybe you shouldn't sit
at a four-person table with four people.
Ever.
Ever.
And this is what happens indoor,
and people are just projectile vomiting,
little blue dots onto each other,
and they're just having a conversation like you and me.
Right.
How do you think the wind affects that in a stadium?
I think the wind would take a viral load,
in the direction the wind was blowing.
So if there's a westerly wind,
the folks in the west side of the stadium
are just taking loads to the face.
That was just an aside.
There was a football game.
And Joe and Troy put this
really well,
and it's something we've talked about before
as it pertains to Tampa
and everybody panicked after week one.
And even last week,
number one, you can't read in the first month
the season this year too much.
I think there's some teams you can make determinations on,
but there's some that you're going to have to say incomplete.
And this would be one.
They have to like where they are
because the Saints, to me,
even though they pulled off the comeback last Monday night,
they look very human.
And the bucks are rounding into form after this, like, de facto preseason.
And they look really good.
and by the way
one more reminder
that Joe Buck got pulled
from a World Series game
basically
it's not World Series
game seven of the NLCS
for a regular season
football game
week five with no fans in the stands
and I know the quarterback thing
but again
the buildup to this
I mean fans were salivating
and it turned out to be
kind of just a blowout
it was never a tight ball game
it was a tight ball game
for like three minutes
I mean it was 10 nothing
in a first year
thinking, oh no, the wheels are falling off here. It could get ugly. We've been right about this
lately that, you know, Aaron's the best player in the league and Green Bay's unbeatable, who can beat
them in the NFC, period, which is ironic because before the season, if you look at these two camps
individually, one team was bracing for an implosion because of the draft and because
of Jordan Love, who by the way, didn't see the field yesterday even in a blowout. The number two came in.
And the other camp who is essentially the next dream team. We just ordained them this. And then the
scripts flip a month in and now they flipped again, right? So how do we react to this? I wouldn't
place too much of an emphasis on it, especially because we look at it from a, from a, from a,
matchup standpoint,
these teams might see each other again,
okay?
What I mean to say is
it could go totally different next time.
That's the way these things are.
2018,
I was on a Philly team
that got beat like 48 to 7 in New Orleans.
We went down there in the playoffs
and got after them for a while
and lost a tight ball game,
low-scoring type ball game.
Things were totally different.
And now you say,
well, the quarterbacks were different.
Offensive output wasn't much different.
Defense played better.
And so these things,
change and you just have to take take into account variables through the through the year and
there are things like pick sixes that you can't get back and they they change your the odds of winning a
football game not that seven points was the difference but those things become really hard to
overcome the biggest thing for me and there's a way it's about green bay i'll get to that in a second
but there's a really clear way that it's about Tampa and that was that 10 days ago well not 10
days ago. How many days ago was, yeah, 11 days ago, we watched Tampa kind of implode and
piss down their legs in a very untom-Bradie, piss on their Dale Earnhardt slides, unintentionally.
They imploded, especially on that one drive that we've talked about on the pod here,
the Jensen penalty, the third and 30 or whatever it was, the pressures, Mack kind of just
breathing on Tom Brady
for off and on for 60
minutes just
towering over him
like on the ground
like those are the images that were burnt
into our brains
including Tom Brady yelling at a guy
oh my God he yelled at a guy
yelled at a guy
so Brady's been in the crosshairs
the bucks have been in the crosshairs
people are like is Brady panicked
are the bucks bad
we said last week this is a team
that has a major
road ahead of them
where they're going to have to
put together more victories like this where they don't,
where they don't commit penalties.
You know, like the penalties weren't a problem yesterday.
I don't think they had one, did they?
They didn't make those dumb plays they made last week.
Tom wasn't under duress as much.
It looked like a vintage Tom Brady team.
There was a moment in the third, the first possession.
You get the run game going.
Ronald Jones is dentin them.
He is.
Rojo.
Rojo's awesome.
You can count on that guy.
You can.
Maybe not to catch the ball out of the backfield.
That's one thing they gotta work on.
Just 100 yard rushing.
Pounding people though.
Zero penalties for zero yards.
Zero penalties for zero yards.
There was that tear drop that Tom threw in there to Gronk.
And by the way, it was like vintage Tom to Gronk.
He looked a lot better running this week.
He got more touches.
Ariens says he's getting into shape again.
He threw that tear drop in there between three dudes
on the right sideline.
And it was at that point that I,
I realized, holy shit.
Like, they look like a machine right now.
It's a far cry from last week.
Brady's answering the critics.
They're not committing penalties.
Him and Gronk, it looks like it's 2013.
And I realized that he probably spent much of his day
in the training room as an older player would,
getting there early, watching the TVs around the locker room
and watching the TVs, you know, outside the training room.
A lot of times we'd slide into side offices to watch a game while we're taping up and that sort of thing.
Like something to get your mind off everything going on in your universe,
which some people might say you need to focus on your game.
Guys watch games passively in locker rooms around the league.
Not in New England, by the way.
No TV's there.
Different.
But was it the TVs or was it Tom?
That's what everybody's wondering.
Was it Bill?
Is it TVs?
Is it Tom?
I say that to say,
I'm pretty sure Tom was watching the New England game,
at least had one eye on it yesterday,
as they couldn't get it going offensively
and dropped a really disappointing game in Denver.
And I'm just saying to myself,
this is, for all the bad days Tom's had lately,
this was Tom's good day.
And you'd rather have it week five than week one
or week five than in Chicago on a Thursday night.
This was the showdown.
You lost Nick Foles last week,
a bunch of penalties.
It looks like maybe the chemistry's fractured if you ask people
because I've never seen a player get yelled at on the sideline before
some of the media members that are looking for like first take style layups.
What about Tom?
Well, I think Jensen had it under control this week, didn't he?
It looks like he got the message and they roll.
I mean, the touchdown to Johnson, 2110 is what it made it,
buying time in the pocket, climbing.
that's like vintage Tom in the red zone,
the Gronk touchdown for the jugular before the half,
2810, and you could tell they were going for the kill.
I mean, this is like Tom takes things personally.
That was a beautiful ball.
And the only thing that looked different about Brady yesterday
was the shotgun stance if you heard Aikman talking about that.
Yep.
Feet were to, we're together.
Some people were speculating that Aikman was trying to throw
Jensen right under the bus throughout the game.
it's just reality.
If you're worried about bad snaps,
if you're worried about penalties
and that sort of thing,
like yeah, Brian's gonna be
on the hot seat for a little bit here.
But I think it's for the better.
We heard Sanchez last week on the pod
talking about squantch.
Squantch, our guy squantch,
talking about when he was a quarterback,
sometimes you picked the guy,
you said, I'm gonna yell at you.
And I gotta hold you at a different standard.
I'm yelling at you
so I don't have to yell at all the other guys
who might not have the same job security.
And that could be a center,
It could be a leader on the offensive line
and maybe Tom sees Jensen as the
kind of the glue guy.
You know, Worf's is too young.
Donovan's kind of
maybe not
maybe not the leader. A lot of times it's the center.
I mean, that's the way it is on the teams I've been on.
And yeah,
so one week after losing a foals,
he out duels Rogers in a big way.
And obviously, to be fair,
Rogers had a lot less weaponry than Tom on the field
and lost Bakhtiari at one point,
which is a big deal worth monitoring.
Don't know if we have anything on that.
Rogers had a little taste of what Wentz deals with on a regular basis.
Now, Roger's a better player.
I'm not equating the two,
but you're not going to get away with that kind of starting 11 every week.
You're not going to get away with that every week,
especially when you're playing a defense like the Bucks.
So for the Bucks, it was about,
we're rounding into form here.
And for Tom, it was about this was personal.
I don't dislike Aaron, but I'm tired of hearing about him.
That's what I think.
And I'm tired of hearing about Nick beat me twice now.
I got one shot so that fans and the media around the country don't hit the panic button on me.
And that's not the reason he went out there and bald.
He wants a win, but that stuff's relevant.
Now, why this game is really relevant for Green Bay is you can say it's one game that they got physically manhandled.
especially defensively here.
I'm not worried about Aaron Rogers.
Same thing,
same reason I did not trust the Packers last year
showed up in this game.
They got bullied a little bit
and it felt like at times late in the game
they had had enough.
Aikman pointed it out on that touchdown.
I got to look closer at the film
to make sure the effort was there
because I don't like questioning effort
unless I'm sure.
But there were whispers.
And, you know, I remember
to start the fourth quarter,
Ronald Jones gets the ball
after another really bad three and out
for Green Bay, runs for 14 yards
into Packers territory through like
three bodies. And you're just like, yeah,
this thing is like white flag.
So for Green Bay, that's my concern.
It's not just one game. There were a number of these
games last year, and there's a track record. There's a
reputation being built up on the defensive side
of the football. You know, people
had issues with the three-man rush
that I mentioned earlier that Brady found
a window to step up. And
and hit the receiver in the end zone to make it 2110.
People were like,
Mike Patton's an idiot,
some of the Packers fans that were tweeting at me.
He's an idiot.
Rushing 3 is so stupid.
Teams rush 3 in the red zone every now and again.
I don't know if it's advisable,
but what's not advisable is running past the quarterback.
It's little things like that.
It's not just the physicality,
but it's the discipline of being at 10 yards in the red zone
when you're rushing three.
Tom's able to easily stack you.
He could bake a cake back there.
He's comfortable.
he finds a receiver for a touchdown.
And it's little things like that.
It's just not getting run over.
It's little stuff like that.
Tom went 12 of 16 for 102 in a touchdown
when the Packer sent four or fewer.
Yeah.
So maybe next time something to look at for them.
Also, the consideration for Green Bay
besides the defense scaring me
and the physicality scaring me
is everybody likes an angry Aaron Rogers.
There's a difference between angry Aaron Rogers
and a frustrated Aaron Rogers
and he was frustrated.
That was a frustrated Aaron.
Sue plays like my four-year-old plays with smaller children.
And it's fun to watch.
Watching that sack, it was like he didn't even try to wrap him up.
He just was like bowling ball.
And he was hyped.
This guy has stuck around a league
at different times.
He's kind of mailed it in.
the chips are up again.
And this is a guy who's gonna help them down the stretch.
Listen, I mentioned Bakhtiari,
that's one to monitor,
because in the second half, he's just getting smoked.
And Devin White nearly killed him.
And at one point, he's getting up,
just shaking his head, Aaron Rogers,
and he's saying to himself, like,
is this how it's gonna be the rest of the year?
That's how I read it.
And why are the O. Lyman letting Aaron
and Sue draw at each other.
Why aren't the O. Lyman?
I was talking about this with my dad last night.
Why aren't the O'Lyman getting in the middle of it?
Why is Aaron have to talk shit to Sue?
I know that like Aaron likes to talk shit sometimes,
but that said something to me.
And I think the next possession after Bakhtiari's injury,
the backup got beat bad by Lavante,
knifing underneath in the run game,
TFL, negative play on a screen,
then Roger scrambles for a short,
short gain and they got a punt.
It's 3810 at this point.
The game's over.
And you know it was really,
really a standout moment from that three and out.
It was Aaron Jones after that second downplay,
the screen that went for a negative,
mushing Devin White really should have been a penalty.
I don't know how they missed it.
What does mush mean?
Like pushed him in the face.
Not a punch, but like a mush.
Like pushed him in the face.
The whole team was mad.
The whole team was frustrated.
and then after that play
you got the Rojo run for 14
where it became apparent to me at this team
might of, I don't want to say giving up
but they were broken.
You mentioned New England,
do you think Tom plays,
I don't know,
better, sharper
if he has an eye on Denver 18,
New England 12
or New England 45,
Denver 12?
You know what?
I think that might be a blood-in-the-water situation
where it's like,
oh, I can really go out
make a statement today.
I think he's playing how he's going to play.
I think there's all these conversations about motivation and inherent motivation,
that sort of thing.
Like Tom's plenty motivated every week.
But a mere mortal like me,
I might feel like I'm playing with house money out there on the field if I see a result
like that up north.
Ross Tucker had a tweet about,
you know,
imagine if people called Aaron Rogers washed after that pick six.
I don't see the unfairness when it comes to a 43-year-old guy.
who's not a big arm while you physical attribute dude anymore
being questioned after he throws pick sixes for a number of weeks.
Like I have maintained that this is Tom working the kinks out for sure.
But he is older.
And like older people,
when they start doing like really old people stuff,
if you're 104 and you get like,
I don't know how hospice works,
kind of a dark turn.
But like when you,
when old people stuff happens to you,
people assume you might be on the way.
out. Aaron Rogers is throwing the ball around like a fucking jugs machine this year. So no, Ross.
A pick six is not going to lead to speculation about Rogers decline. By the way, the Tom pick sixes are
you know, part of a pattern lately. Uh, and didn't people call Aaron washed the last couple
years like at different moments? For sure. I don't know. I don't.
Yeah, I mean, they actually drafted a guy to replace him.
So we talked about Brady getting the monkey off his back for sure.
That was huge and it was a big win for the bucks.
But Kyle Brand made a good point this morning and I saw it last night, you know, plenty of people saw it.
He didn't shake hands with Nick 10, 11 days ago.
He promptly ran right out of the, right off the sideline to shake hands with Aaron.
And I get it.
Like I could easily criticize Tom and then Tom might say, well, I'm doing what people are
people ask me to do and now I'm getting criticized.
That would be fair if it weren't for,
as Kyle pointed out, week one handshake,
Drew Brees, after loss,
and then the handshake yesterday.
And he makes a great point as well about Justin Herbert
if you were to say, listen,
maybe he's only shaking other goat's hands.
He ran right out and shook Justin Herbert's hand.
What is it about Nick Foles?
And I think it's true.
I don't give a shit about handshakes
after the game.
Like, I really don't.
And it's amazing to me, actually.
The, what about the handshake crowd is also the participation trophy crowd, I feel like.
The Venn diagram is a circle there.
Both can't make sense here.
I don't care much about shaking hands, but when you see the inconsistency, it's fair to ask questions.
Derek Carr up next for Tom's handshake or non-handshake.
Yeah, we'll see.
Sunday night.
Handshake watch.
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Now, New England, I'm not going to overreact to that.
They took away two weeks of prep for them, essentially.
Like, it's been totally disjointed since the outbreak.
long trip Denver's better than people think Drew Locke was back and Cam you know in a newer system
with a coach and a program that's you know the strength is prep practice you take that away
that's the Patriots biggest advantage it's not like they're the teams of old that are pretty
talented and that sort of thing like there are a lot of holes in those rosters so if they're not
prepared and they don't have time to rep things you're going to have some up and down
games. Is the coaching staff not more prepared? Just crunch and film? They may be, but
reps getting players on the field to run through things, time and meetings, not being on
Zoom doing meetings. You know, the facility was shut down off and on. The game was in question.
It's the same way. It's funny. A week ago, we are wondering if the chiefs actually
suck because they almost got beat by Brian Hoyer. I don't think so. I also don't
think the Patriots suck because they got beat by the Broncos and Drew Locke, both situations
are totally out of an NFL player's wheelhouse from a prep standpoint. I know that the Chiefs
weren't in the same situation that the Patriots are in, but the uncertainty really does weigh
on players. What about the Titans? I know it took them a while and I know they have the same system
as last year, but they put up 42 points after 42 and back-to-back weeks after a lot of shutting down.
They're kind of a loose team.
And I think they leaned into that situation.
Where New England, it's like everything's about prep, practice meetings, and being really type A and really studious and really regimented.
And all NFL players are creatures of habit.
It also could have been a bad matchup.
They might have kicked the bill's ass no matter what.
Yeah, I'm just not worried about the Patriots losing a game like that.
that was pretty up in the air
and against the team that people
probably sleep on, but Drew Locke's back
and we talked about the prep.
From the biggest game of the week,
and of course I'm talking about Green Bay,
Tampa Bay, the Battle of the Bays,
you have emerging from its shadow,
the Jets Dolphins game,
which is the loneliest game on Earth.
We talked about the Washington football team
in Arizona playing in a bad spot
earlier in the season, I think.
This game was the pre-year-old.
personification of if that will forte show last man on earth or whatever it is last man standing
Steve Brule no it's about being alone isolation shout out to Steve Brul
dr. Steve Brul did you did you like the two minutes you watch before you left the house the other
night it was like 30 seconds I mean no no I didn't give it time um this was the personification
of that will will Forte show
Like this game was so alone.
It was so lonely.
By the way, Will Forte once left me a voicemail.
I'll tell that story another day.
I would love another voicemail.
I lost it.
It was a couple, it was a couple phones ago.
And I coveted it.
And it was gone.
I'm a big McGroover fan.
Mutual friend got him to leave me a voicemail.
Lost it.
So Will, maybe you could call into the show or something.
Will's 50 in the years old.
I would have said that.
that was about right.
Okay.
Yeah.
The only other game on TV yesterday
at that point because there was the nine game
to two games split,
which Fox doesn't want any part of the networks
don't want any part of reshuffling that schedule
because if you're Fox, why would you wanna share the time
with more of those garbage one o'clock games?
Like you want Tampa, you want the Battle of the Bays.
Sounds like you have some inside knowledge on that.
Well, I think it's just the way TV goes.
You know, we're in the biz.
I almost felt bad for the Jets yesterday.
I do feel bad for a lot of their players.
At the same time this game is going on,
the coach that you fired to hire Adam Gase
is putting on a clinic defensively down in the bay.
And up.
Yeah, whatever.
Miami's down there at the bottom.
The bay is up.
The game was in,
but I'm thinking New York.
Yeah.
Geography is not the strong suit this morning.
Roxanne.
Oh, fuck.
What?
We'll leave it in.
Okay, nice.
I just want to hear you say fuck, I guess.
Frank Gore doesn't deserve this.
You know, by the way,
Brian Flores had to tackle Frank Gore in college.
That was a factoid yesterday.
That's a good one.
Unbelievable.
I think Gore is going to play until he's 105,
and I think the Jets might ruin us being able to see that
because playing on a football team like this,
trust me, sucks the life out of even the most,
football-minded dudes.
Like, they're going to mess up
our chance at a modern-day Ken Griffey thing.
And as of 2.11 p.m., Adam Gaye still employed.
Yeah, he's still employed.
Is the play just to go, Owen 16?
I don't know. That's what Bill Barnwell thinks
that maybe the play is to just keep this ship
moving in the right direction.
And, by the way,
on Frank Gorthing, I do want to change our St. Louis Memorial Award,
which is about playing in,
it's an award about playing in obscurity.
It's official.
I'm changing the name of that award
to the Frank Gore Love of the Game
Award sponsored by Toral.
Nice.
That'll be later in the show.
I'm just going to sub out St. Louis.
So here's a memorial to the St. Louis Memorial Award.
It's no more.
Frank Gore is playing in the most inopportune circumstances.
is at an age that's unthinkable at his position.
It is amazing to me that he keeps going.
That guy loves football more than anybody.
He should get in the Hall of Fame and he should have his own fucking wing.
5'9, 212, 37 years old.
Miami running back.
Miami, fuck, fuck, fuck.
My favorite thing about that game, though, is Damien Woody live tweeting Jets games.
Like, it's such a factor of sadness.
I mean, consider watching that game closely enough to digest it.
And then consider tweeting about it.
To whom, Damien.
Who are you tweeting at?
Like people on the timeline are like,
there's another football game going on?
Context, please.
I hope you use the hashtag
so people knew what you're talking about
because nobody was watching that game.
I had it on my small TV
to see if Fitz-Fitz magic would come through
in fantasy.
I mean, Aaron Rogers, Tom Brady, other TV,
Damian Woody is a good person.
That's how I know he's a good person.
That's how I know he's trustworthy
because he's watching his team
in that 4 o'clock spot
and firing off tweets into the abyss.
And he likened the Jets to Newports,
which are cigarettes
because they stay getting smoked.
That's what he said.
I think that's unfair to Newports.
Newports are really smooth.
Really smooth.
I think the Jets are more like Marlboro Reds.
They're the harshest
Sigs.
Remember the first Sigs I ever got my hands on
when I was like a teen?
Really harsh.
Harsh on your lungs.
That's what the Jets are. They're not Newports.
I was like trying to visualize Damien
fumbling for his phone to capture this stat.
And this is the stat of the day.
Adam Gase, total offense.
As a Bears coordinator, 21st.
As a Miami head coach, 24th.
Then 25th. Then 31st.
And then last year, they're last in the league.
There's 32 teams.
The trend hits a fucking wall.
There's literally nowhere you can go from here.
To be fair, he's currently 31st this year.
Things could get worse.
I think they're going seventh circle of hell.
Like, there's just no way.
There's no way.
Who's worse?
Somebody.
I'm looking at the graphic.
It's inevitable that he's not going to break the trend.
What if he breaks the trend and goes 31?
one this year and the Johnson family is like,
nah, keeping him around, trending up.
Well, then next year he could go 25.
We could have a palindrome situation on the hands.
Palindrome, nice.
By the year 2025, he could be back to 21st in the league.
That's what's called playing the long game.
Yep.
And here's the most fucked up part.
Damien was on the show over the, felt like the summer, fall,
that kind of in-between preview area.
and he called this.
I mean, this exact thing about Adam Gase.
I mean, it's not a hot take.
Anybody could see that I just didn't know when you're an offensive guru,
if you've never had a good year offensively,
I know you can put up, you know, decent numbers in Denver
and Peyton Manning likes you.
Guess what?
Peyton Manning, I would guess Adam Gase deferred to him a lot,
and that's probably a lot of the reason Peyton liked him.
And also, they might get along.
Adam Gase, by all accounts, is a pretty fun guy to be around.
And I've talked to Adam Gase.
He's cool.
He used to coach my brother, but he's not getting it done.
And I feel bad.
I feel bad talking about, like, coaches getting fired and making light of it and that sort of thing.
But like, there's a lot of players on that team playing in a pandemic, risking their health and their bodies for that product.
So eventually there has to be some accountability at the top level.
Would you change your take if I told you?
do you that the jets are up to number 30 in total offense after Sunday not compelling enough but
there is the long play we discuss maybe maybe the palindrome sin thing is is happening a little
quicker than we thought the new york giants and Washington football team are eight yards
behind the the jets in total offense this year nice he could probably manipulate a graph and chart a lot
like our president would to justify something I mean I
I feel like that's one of these situations.
Listen,
Joe Flacco doesn't even deserve this.
Fireman Ed doesn't deserve this.
Jets fans don't deserve this.
L.D.
Larry David doesn't deserve this.
J.B. Smooth.
doesn't deserve this.
Here's something that I thought of.
The older Johnson is the ambassador to the UK, right?
Maybe Biden wins the election.
we've gone political here, but it's relevant, guys.
Bear with me.
And it's possible. He's on the ballot.
Biden wins the election.
And Buddy gets pulled from his job as ambassador to the UK.
Returns to Jets football operations in the forefront and says,
what the fuck are we doing here?
Axes Adam Gase.
So if you're a Jets fan and a Trump voter,
I feel sorry for you, but there's hope.
You just have to vote for Biden.
if you vote for Biden
Older Johnson
returns to East Rutherford
or wherever the fuck their facility is now
Is that where it is?
Yeah
And acts as Adam Gase
Because that's the only thing I can think of
Is that just older Johnson's not paying attention
Older, no I can't
I can't
Bigger Johnson
He's the one with the bigger wallet
I have a good one too
I'll tell you I can't do it
Well that's bad if you can't do it
So I just think
Another thing to think about and weigh
as you're making decision is
teams are 1 and 0
after coaches get fired. So to
Bill Barnwell's point, maybe you should hold this
firing because you
can't afford a win right now.
And it's a toxic
situation. You can see it with him and Greg
getting into it. I've seen
this before. Pressure burst
pipes and that's
what seems to be happening inside that building.
Here's the deal. When we saw Ryan
Tannahill thriving,
like if you look at him on paper
the last year and a half he looks like a top five quarterback
oh my gosh if you just read the stats
stunning I mean on the field he's pretty damn
good too okay I just think we have
this block as football fans and there's a number
of players that are the victims of this
early in their career the first
act wasn't good so it's just stuck
in our head that they can't be elite
well Tannenhill's elite
by any measure the last year and a half
and like I said the numbers say he's top five
the delta between his play in
Miami and in Tennessee is really Sam Donald's best friend, in my opinion.
It's his get out of jail card.
And I think what Derek Henry is to Ryan Tannahill positively, because I am acknowledging
that, we're talking about Arthur Smith a lot as a head coaching candidate.
You also need to be careful, proceed with caution because of the 250 pounds, 6'7
running back that's just running through
motherfucker's faces on the rag.
The effect that Derek Henry has on Tannhill positively,
I'd say that's like a quarter
of what Gase is to Darnold negatively.
I really do believe that.
And I'm not saying that Darnold is going to be a great player,
but don't tell me we
we can properly evaluate them right now.
If you're a team like the Colourn't,
which the rumor mill has churned up,
maybe looking hard at Sam Darnold,
they're gonna be in a position where, in my opinion,
this is one of the weirdest positions in sports.
You take a quarterback on kind of a one year.
It works out but not that well,
and you're kind of middling,
and you got a young roster, the windows open,
but you gotta look again
and you don't have anybody at the top of the draft.
If you're the Colts, are you looking at Sam Darnold?
Yeah, sure, why not?
I think there are proposed trades.
There's a ton of trades floating out there
and we can get some later in the week.
I think that this one,
I think that this one is one I would make
if I were the Colts, depending on the price.
It's not too steep, I like it because you gotta think about their core.
The entire core is young.
If you hit on Sam Darnold,
you've got Buckner, you got the young running back,
the young wide out, you've got the young guard,
all you've got Darius Leonard
all your best players are young
and if you add a young quarterback
to that group
it just feels like everybody grows together
and you'd be pairing him
with one of the best offensive minds in the game
and Frank Wright I like to move a lot
so I don't judge
you know Sam Darnold in this situation
again
just a reminder Joe Flacco
took a 29 yard sack in the red zone
to ensure the shutout
28
Okay.
29 would have been the record.
I'd hate to go over on that.
28.
Listen, Flacco is...
Elusive.
...is working for the Jets and he's working for the Jets.
Like, he's working and he's working and he's working.
And I would imagine that meeting after the game, they're like, listen, man, like, we said
you just had to lose.
You didn't have to, like, get a shut out.
That's too hard of a sell if you're Joe Flacco.
Tone it down a little bit.
It's called overacting.
It's called overacting.
They have the bills, chiefs,
Pats, Chargers, Dolphins, Raiders,
Hawks, Rams, Browns, and Pat's left.
And it's got to leave Jets fans to wonder,
is this the lowest point in team history?
Or the highest.
Man, I'm telling you, that quarterback
in Clemson's really good.
He's gonna be good.
Owen 16, 1 in 15, 2 and 14,
this is one of the years to do it.
Pandemic season,
asterisks, all over the place.
Yeah, this is the year to do it.
It's almost like people are going to forget it happened.
Speaking of, my playoff, Cleveland Browns.
Yep, yep, yep.
Might want to forget 38 to 7 in Pittsburgh on Sunday.
They might.
And I guess when I was watching the side TV, by this time,
they had been relegated to the side TV.
The money was in the bar and the money was in the account,
essentially at this point.
Side upper or side lower?
Side upper.
Okay.
I saw Case Keenham trot out on the field,
and I was wondering if it was health or if it was, you know.
The Jimmy G. Playbook blueprint.
Yeah, well, I mean, that worked out for the Niners,
but beware a little bit of, yeah, just beware of Case Keenum coming in
and managing the game and being able to make throws from in the pocket
as well as outside the pocket.
We've talked a lot about Baker struggling from inside the pocket.
We know he was hurt this weekend.
We also know that the Steelers smell blood.
Like that's what that defense was playing like.
Blood in the water.
Bud Dupree, T.J. Watt, Hayward, Toit.
They lost Evan Bush, which is a big deal.
I worry about that.
But you had a Minka Fitzpatrick sighting.
People were freaking out.
He was a victim of his own success last year.
with the pick six
terrible throw
terrible throw by Baker
and
you know this is one of those games where
I'm reading and hearing
that Baker's ribs are as bad as they are
if I learned in the broadcast that
Baker Mayfield is a side sleeper
what do you think the Steelers know
about his ribs?
Like that's how much this is being talked about
I don't know how it got to be such a big
talking point this week
but the Steelers know that too
and you can play good clean football
and try to crack somebody's ribs
it's just one of those injuries
that's the breadbasket
the strike zone is
you can only try to murder
somebody's strike zone
I mean the window is only so big
and when it's in the strike zone
I think it's okay to say we're going after this cat's
midsection
fairly between the whistles
two steps and they did
Bud Dupree stood him up on one play
and Hayward finished him
and it looked like he was down for the count.
Have you ever worn a flack jacket?
I never wore a flat jacket.
I thought it would.
I already looked like I have a flack jacket on
as a white male with love handles on the field.
Like have you ever just put one on?
Nah.
Nah.
Makes two of us.
Yeah, no.
I don't plan on wearing one either.
I don't plan on breaking any more ribs in my life.
And by the way, on the defense,
although Tony Romo thought T.
Jay Watt made like every play, like the dogs are all over the field for this group.
They're really good.
And again, Baker with another poor performance of the Browns,
with another poor performance against their big test in division.
Like, again, this is a team and we called it last week.
Good, not great.
And they're not a joke anymore, but until they beat teams in their division
or at the top of the standings in the NFL, we can't do the Browns,
to the Super Bowl this year, question mark, headlines anymore.
We can't do it.
I'm not doing it.
I'm not playing into it.
I'm not going to spend much more time talking about the Browns
than what we already have here
because it would be unfair to the other teams.
The Jets at least are a dumpster fire that is entertaining.
The Browns are a good team that plays way down sometimes.
Brown should be favored in five of their next five.
So they're currently four and two.
Maybe we can revisit if they're eight and three or nine and two
here in a month. If they're 8 and 3 and 9 and 2
in a month, they're still going to have
to beat the good teams in the playoffs. So again,
good team, maybe a playoff team.
Monitor the quarterback situation.
You know the Tyrod situation in L.A.
It's totally different. It's kind of the
opposite. Your high draft pick is playing
and gets hurt in Cleveland
rather than vice versa
in L.A. But the deal
is, and we saw this with
Haskins in Washington,
when you're not the front
office's guy and you're not the
coach's guy, you're in trouble.
Or at least you're in the crosshairs.
And I'm not saying it would be the right move,
but what I'm saying is if Case Keenham comes in the next couple weeks,
and if this rip thing lingers, you never know what happens.
This is the NFL.
Kevin Stefansky didn't draft him.
Barry didn't draft him.
You got a new GM.
You got a new coach.
I'm just saying keep an eye on it.
I'm not saying they're going to take his job.
I don't know some people are going to digest this as this being the take,
but I'm saying monitor it.
Bingles next week, look out.
Also, Odell leadership on the sideline.
And they painted it as such.
That was wonderful to see.
Here's my thing on the Odell thing.
Odell, from everything I hear, is a great teammate.
Every time I've ever been around him, I really like him,
and he's a great football player.
And he's probably assumed a leadership role in that locker room.
But he has also violently attacked Annette,
gotten in some fights on the field, and, like, this shit happens.
This is, I've shown emotion.
I've punched inanimate objects in the locker room.
I've thrown things on the sideline.
Like, shit happens.
And I am all for the double standard tweets with Odell to point out that he is unfairly painted
and New York media was really unfair to him.
But Tom Brady catching astray and that whole thing is the dumbest fucking thing ever.
And it was like a layup last week.
Every blue check account was,
oh, well, Tom just yelled at Ryan Johnson.
and his leadership, but when Odell attacks Annette,
I'm like, this is a dumb tweet, man.
How about like pick somebody who's not a goat
to use as the second leg of your very trendy little 240 characters?
Like Jordan got the pass.
We watched the last dance all summer,
eight to 10 hours on loop of him calling Scotty Borrella bitch,
and we were all like, oh, look at the leadership.
That's what LeBron doesn't do.
do.
LeBron needs to call his teammates bitches more and like fight guys in practice.
Then Tom Brady yells at a guy and the only two instances we can compare are Ryan Jensen
and, you know, Odell's outbursts that he's had time to time.
Odell is a good teammate, a good football player, probably a good leader.
He's a great football player.
but that was just it was just it just seemed dumb to me to make brady the the punchline of
of that really tired joke last week um best defense in the league what do you think
do you think it's Steelers you think it's Steelers i agree some people were saying the bears are
the best defense in the league and i actually i think it's compelling uh again after yesterday
listen Bridgewater's day was rough um started with a pick his first pass i believe and finished
with the game ceiling interception as well.
And the first one puts the game in a bind for them.
You're not going to play the Bears this year
and hope to
you've got to be in phase against those guys
or you have to have a lead.
Down 7-0 immediately is not how you want to play against them.
It led to the Komet.
Cole Komet, saw him play live at Notre Dame Stadium.
Touchdown.
Claypool, too.
Teddy had season loads across the board.
even yards per attempt.
Okay, and that's bad
because he was at the bottom
when it comes to yards per attempt.
We said it would be tough to dink and dunk,
and it was.
To their credit, they had 10 big plays yesterday,
which wasn't bad,
but the underneath stuff
that he's lived on really wasn't there.
The evidence being the highest snap
to release time for him all year.
So like, when you see a guy
on a new shot clock like that,
that means you're doing things
to take away the safety valves.
and he was 6 to 15 for 108 in an interception on passes of 2.5 seconds or more.
So I'm saying all that to say,
Teddy is best on a quick shot clock, being a point guard, distributing the ball.
He's not best creating and doing the longer shot clock stuff.
I mean, we talked about how many backs he's hit underneath all year.
Mike Davis had two receptions for three yards yesterday.
Five plus and 25 plus in each of the previous four games.
So he was top three and catches the last month.
Yesterday it wasn't there.
They were missing Curtis Samuel.
I hammered the bears anyways,
but once I saw Curtis Samuel was out,
I was like, I'm on it all the way
because he's a huge third down target for them.
Samuel had a knee,
but he was also tied for the league
with 11 receptions on third down.
And I heavied up when I heard that.
They go 3 of 13 on third down.
Even with the chunk plays I mentioned,
it really dried up in the red zone for them.
And that's what made the Matt rule
not going for it on fourth and short
a few instances really confusing to me.
You can't kick field goals in that situation.
You can't, especially, and this popped up in the Rams Niners game,
there's always a consideration down low when you're playing an opposing offense.
If you don't get it, at least they're pinned.
Seems obvious, right?
But the Bears and Nick Foles are kind of turnover prone.
And to me, I'm going for it there.
It's hard enough to get down there.
The Bears are good in the red zone.
Take advantage of the opportunity and pin Nick Foles back if you don't
get it. Interestingly, last night, the interception of the end zone that Jared Gough threw
on fourth down was a pick and then some because it wasn't just, you know, like a PBU, you know,
like a PBIU, your Niners would have been pinned. But if you pick that ball off, then you get 20
yards. And then the next player, too, the field is completely flipped after George Kittle Chunk. So
that's a big consideration. I would have gone for it in those two situations.
To touchback. Yeah.
that driving video game, Cruising USA maybe.
Checkpoint.
I love that game.
Touchback.
I love that game.
It feels like touchback could be a sounder maybe on broadcast.
Touchback.
Maybe we can pull some cruising USA sounders for this pod.
Yeah.
Maybe every time we change segments.
Ooh, that's good.
That's good.
We just fell into something.
Don't rock saying that.
And Teddy's tough day kind of culminated late when he missed that fourth downthrow
and was picked on the following possession for the seal.
So the pass rush made the money in Chicago.
Four sacks, six hits, 29 attempts, 12 pressures and 7 hurries.
Top five pressure rate on the weekend, and Quinn forced that last pick.
Mack forced an earlier pick six.
That might have been, it should have been.
Fuller got called for the PI, said he was there early.
I don't think so.
Also a Mack sack backed up, led to good field position,
and that led to a key field goal
that pushed it to 10 to 3
rather than 7 to 3 at that point.
97 also had a sack in the red zone
which forced the 48-yard field goal.
So if you add all those sacks and pressures up,
that's a bunch of points off the board.
That's at least two scores, really, about,
for on the tab of that D-line,
and they've been really good.
By the way, Fuller, I mentioned earlier,
getting jobbed on that call yesterday.
You got jobbed a week earlier.
Did he get fined on that?
I don't know.
You saw when he blew up that Bucks running back
or receiver on the crossing route.
And it's just been a tough couple of weeks
for Fuller, who's a great football player.
That sequence, had that stood as a pick six,
would have been the third turnover
in as many plays in that game yesterday.
Eddie Jackson, forced fumble,
Foles, bad pick, then this.
And I think the biggest question coming out of yesterday,
a hidden question,
is can the bear's defense do what it's,
what it did to Teddy Bridgewater
and others to somebody like Aaron Rogers
who looked very human yesterday.
That division has been one of the most like,
ah, fuck it, throw away the key.
Like, we know what's happening in the north after a month.
Like, we're just sure about it.
I don't know. Are we?
Yeah.
You're sure.
Pretty sure.
What I'm curious about, though, is matchup-wise.
I'm not talking about the bears every week.
How are the bears going to match up
against Aaron Rogers this year?
I look forward to it.
Panthers,
wear your silver breeches.
What are you doing?
Match the lid.
Yeah.
Silver,
pretty blue and then white.
It didn't work.
It almost was a great look.
Steelers,
Browns, fabulous.
Beautiful.
Beautiful.
Awards.
Let's hit him real quick
before we get out of here.
Best and worst plane rides,
what say you?
Going right back to Charlotte,
North Carolina.
Chicago Bears.
Atop the division.
Again, thinking you might have something is even better than having something.
Yeah, that's what they said.
And I like Chicago, Illinois, a great deal, even though it's one of very few cities that I've cried inside of.
You've cried in Chicago?
Oh, yeah, I cried a lot.
Hey.
Hey.
You want to tell us real quick what happened?
Yeah, sure.
My team lost a basketball game.
It was leading by 15 with nine minutes to go with a trip to the final four on the line.
and my team doesn't go to Final Fours.
You didn't cry around me though.
No, you weren't there.
I wasn't there that year.
Yeah, Khan.
Yeah, in the United Center, Malachi Richardson,
who was never to be heard from again,
went off Syracuse as a 10-Z.
Oh, this is that game.
Goes to the Final Four.
And I cried.
It was in New York that we blew
a very winnable game to the Spartans.
Right.
That was Magic Johnson night.
Magic Johnson night.
When you saw Magic Johnson
in the urinal.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm going to go Broncos' best ride home.
Listen, when you live in Denver, you don't like leaving Denver.
That's a beautiful place.
Foxborough, listen, objectively, not so much.
Objectively, I think most people wouldn't look at Foxborough and say like this is a,
it's some gorgeous country up here.
Shopping malls?
Cranberry bog.
Patriot Place, great football team,
nice people, I live there right behind the stadium,
but it's no Denver.
And to get on a plane after a big win like that,
head west, picking up time.
Chicago, picking up an hour.
Picking up a couple hours to get to Denver,
I believe it's on mountain time,
but very aptly on mountain time.
It's just a, it was a big win for them.
It was a big win for them.
And it has to feel good.
in this spot before I've been on terrible teams. I've been on the Jets type teams. I've been on the
Broncos type teams and I've been on the, you know, take your pick, the Seahawks, Packers type
teams. The teams in the middle sometimes can have like very naturally a lot of fun because
there's no pressure on you like the five and O teams. Everybody has written the Broncos off, right?
Probably should. You know, they would have had to get off to a hot start. Although with the playoffs
the way they are this year. You never know.
Drew Locke's back.
They feel like they're building a little bit,
although I don't know if Fanjo is going to see the entire build.
There's excitement,
but there's not so much that there's people watching your every move
and they're holding you to a high standard.
You're also not a bad team, so you're not a joke.
You're kind of in the middle.
And when a middling team picks up a big,
unexpected win like this,
the plane rides are really fucking fun.
I've been on them.
the worst for me
probably the Packers
by the way we didn't bring this up Aaron Rogers
as they pointed out on the broadcast there
has had a tough time in Tampa
two injuries
bunch of picks do you have a Tampa Bay in your
personal life? Yeah Miami
really yeah never
never good never good for you
first time I ever went down to Miami
we played the Hurricanes
you were a rookie
and I had a job to
do with the Virginia football
I was there radio broadcast
you you you came down with us
I believe on the team charter
and it was a noon kickoff I think
yeah and uh getting to the radio booth
look up at our fellows and they start laughing at me
and I say what and they say you have glitter
all over your face
you and I guess had found our way to the club
the night before oh we were in the club
and uh it's just it's it's never a good time
We were in mansion, I think.
It's a fog for days.
We were at one of those clubs where they just,
nobody had occurs to them to, like, maybe go home and sleep.
Right.
Well, it ended at live.
Live.
6 a.m. type thing?
Heck yeah.
I can't.
And Al Groh had us at Don Shula's hotel,
which was roughly seven hours away by taxi.
No Uber in those days.
I am good for,
and I've always been good for this,
surprise disappearance.
from the bar.
Have you ever noticed that?
No, I tried to do it at your house this weekend.
You just did it.
You stood up and said, I'm going to leave now.
In the middle of curb.
We were watching curb.
I'm going to leave now.
All right, good night.
That was good by you.
Thank you for that.
I don't like doing that.
I hate the fucking thing where people can't leave.
Right.
Drives me nuts.
I'll just get up and leave dinner.
And everybody else can deal with the awkwardness after I leave.
It's like 9.30.
The check's been paid, dude.
Also, if we're at a bar at 1 a.m.,
and I realized that I would probably rather be eating
some tequitos and packing a dip or, you know,
home playing video games or hitting my pen in privacy.
I'm gonna leave.
I'm gonna tell maybe one person and I'm gonna leave
because the problem is when you tell people at the bar
that you're leaving, everybody tries to convince you to stay.
It's loud.
You can't, you know, you don't speak well at that,
in that juncture in the night.
I am good for a, I'm getting the fuck out of here.
I was feeling no announcement.
LD level anxiety trying to figure out how to get out of your living room on Saturday night.
Man, all you had to say was what you said.
Yeah, I kind of.
Let's make a pack right here.
To be fair, and I'm going to sign this pact that you propose, I think I had tried to get out.
We pressured you.
A time or two before, and it was not one curb.
Yeah, and then we couldn't find the perfect curb.
Right.
Right.
Yeah, worst plane ride, the Packers leaving Aaron Rogers.
version of your Miami
Tampa Bay
viewing party
I don't have a lot of awards today
but I'm going to go with Miami
the dolphins who are like
killing it this year on the low
point differential
I think I read
that they're in the plus
by a relatively large margin here
and 47
yeah Brian fucking Flores
only team in the FCEs
and the green
they're the I love them
I love B-Flow
I'm pulling for them.
I'm excited for them.
And they're watching Houston continue to lose games
and drive the value of those two picks they landed from them up,
up, up, and away.
Early picks too.
I'll go viewing party Seattle Seahawks.
They look at some number one seat competition,
Green Bay, lose their first game.
They see the L.A. Rams take their second loss in the division.
Arizona Cardinals have a game Monday night against Dallas.
and Seattle gets a sick back, get healthy, 5 and O.
And Jamal Adams is ecstatic.
Oh, yeah.
Jamal Adams is sitting at home,
like super excited to see what's going on in New York.
It's one of those spots that I'm sure like there's a consideration
where he definitely wants to root against the organization
because he won it out, whether that was wrong or right or like,
whatever, damn the implications of a player forcing his way out.
Again, if a player doesn't want to be there, you should always just be like, well, see you later,
because isn't the old cliche that you got to want to be here to win?
I think it's a fine line you walk between rooting against the organization and rooting against your former teammates.
Because it has to be a consideration if you're Jamal.
St. Louis Memorial.
Nope.
The Frank Gore Love of the Game Award sponsored by Tor at all.
formerly the St. Louis Memorial Award.
Yeah.
In honor of Frank Gore
playing for the Jets this year,
we got to shout him out
in perpetuity for that.
I'm going to give it to my guy,
Carson Wentz.
Listen, hasn't played well this year
for much of the season.
Hasn't taken care of the football.
Didn't take care of the football
on one play yesterday,
but it wasn't in the passing game.
Quarterback design run,
coughed up to cookies, led to points
in a game that's like 17 to nothing
at about half time.
You look at that and you're saying to yourself,
gosh, we just take care of the football.
It's a lot closer of a ballgame than you think.
But a gutsy performance for him.
And this is why I know he's from the Dakotas.
I know he spends his days in a duck blind.
It's not your Philly packaged guy.
You know, he's on the surface, not a Philly guy,
but he is a Philly guy
in his
guttiness. I think it's actually
his grittiness. I actually think it's
one of his
the qualities to get him in trouble on the field.
He won't quit on plays
and that leads to some ill-advised throws
some sacks. Yesterday
he was not the problem
and coming off a week where they scored
30 points basically in Pittsburgh
against the best defense in league, right?
With Fulgum.
could be your boy.
And Ward. It could be mine.
Expires at midnight. Maybe I'm playing a head game with you.
And Melvin Gordon. And Melvin Gordon. Say yes.
Say yes right now. Say yes right now. Say yes. Say yes right now.
Yes right now. His fingers are crossed.
After that week where you're like, okay, I mean, he didn't play perfect. He made some poor
throws, but the output is up against a very good team. The bird scored touchdowns in the last
four or six possessions yesterday against
another defense that's supposed to be
one of the things
in the NFL. He got crushed
a lot. A ton
of his drops on
side TV when I glanced
over were slow motion just like
it was on loop
him just getting
railroaded.
And that makes sense because
you're starting one out of your
five real offensive
linemen that you trotted out for
for the opener
and including like Brandon Brooks
I don't know how that factors into that statistic
but Brandon Brooks was lost for the year
before the year even started
you're down to your third tackles
on both sides and a fourth guard
and again you're throwing to Shadow Men in the program
it is all too familiar a spot for Carson Wentz
this is one of those hang in there buddy awards
and continue to because news just came down
that Zach Ertz will miss three to four weeks
and Miles Sanders is likely out against the Giants on Thursday.
First off, I'm really worried about my friend.
High ankle for Zach.
And those are a motherfucker.
Also, I propose a trade.
Okay.
Zach Earth's had one of his best days of the year last yesterday.
Okay.
I'll take anybody on your team.
Okay.
I just noticed that Fulgum.
Fuck, man.
Zach's hurt.
Has 23 targets the last two.
weeks. I might want to hold on to Travis
Fulgum. Yeah, it's fine. I don't want them anyways.
I'll take Ertz off your hands for
Jason Sanders. No, I'm going to
I'll be proposing this trade.
Listen, this sucks, man.
It sucks. Like being on a football team
that's bad and they are bad.
That doesn't mean they're not
gutsy. It's so funny that all the
fans always go straight to. Has this team
given up and that sort of thing?
No, they're just not, the roster's not very
good and people are hurt.
And if you look at the pressure,
the duress numbers he was under pressure on 47% of dropbacks that's the third straight week
that he was over 40% in that category that's the first time since that stat actually started getting
tracked in 2009 that an Eagles quarterback is under so much pressure so I just for Eagles fans I know
it's not easy to say this and I have been hard on Carson this year you're listening like oh he fucking
he's he's he's a Carson apologist no I was hard on Carson this year called it like I
saw it last year when he was playing better and you gave him credit for.
And this year he's played bad.
But yesterday he was not the problem.
And if they can start to get healthy as you give me that news,
maybe some confidence can be restored and cars can go on a little bit of a run.
That's going to be encouraging tracking into late this year and next year.
The slow starts are killing them though.
Big old game Monday night.
Cowboys win.
They get to three and three,
which feels like they're just zooming away from the rest.
of the division. They lose their two and four. Philly's still one, four and one.
Giants. Washington, still alive at one in five.
Like, just, like, still alive.
Not like very alive. Just hanging on.
Nah, like, we're good. If Dallas loses and goes to two and four, they're a game out.
Game ball. Do you have one? I do.
His name's Phil Rivers. He was left for dead in the first half. People have already been calling
for Jacoby Brissette.
And he engineers a 21-point comeback,
throws three tuds,
371 yards,
Colts go to four and two
with a great O line,
as discussed,
great defense.
They have something.
Bingles are just going to be a trap
for everybody this year.
Yeah, they were a trap for me
taking the win total over.
They have now squandered a 20-something point lead.
They've lost basically an overtime game.
They've lost another.
close game to the Eagles.
I mean, I could be sitting pretty now.
I'm gonna call him full rivers.
It doesn't really make sense
and I haven't fleshed it out.
But instead of Phil Rivers,
I'm to call him full rivers.
Okay.
Now.
Because your heart is full making this game ball pick.
Yeah, eyes clear.
Full, Philip, Philip Rivers
with football game wins.
Yeah, for sure.
That's what he's doing.
So you got Philip Rivers, Philip Rivers.
Game ball.
I got Todd Bowles.
Listen, your linebackers were on fire yesterday.
You got a huge win.
I thought that this defense was, we said it coming in the season, the strength of the team.
And all we were talking about was Tom and that whole gang.
And they have been hot and cold at times.
But if you look at certain analytics, they've been a top five defense for the last
20 games or so.
And they looked like it yesterday.
Devin White and Levanti David,
both very underrated,
especially Levanti David. I've long admired
his game and he hasn't gotten the credit he deserves.
They combined for 18 tackles,
four hits, two and a half sacks, five sacks,
on the front as well,
13 quarterback hits.
They scored on defense. They provided that spark.
They lost Vita Vair,
who a lot of people thought
was going to be a big deal. And Aaron Jones
did nothing. So Todd Bowles,
while the dumpster fire rages, sorry, in Miami down south.
And the dumpster fire continues to rage
while the Jets team plane lands.
And they're watching highlights of Todd Bowles' defense
just wrecked shop.
He gets the game ball.
Can I tell you who stepped in for Vita Vaya?
Whom.
Rakeem Nunez Rogers.
And bald and he has a really ugly number.
What is it?
It's like 45 or 55, or it's not 45,
but it's one of those.
Uh-oh.
What is it?
56.
It's 56,
which is not a D-Tackle number.
Okay.
Yeah.
But it was worn by one of us in the studio.
It's also worn by L.T.
It was indeed.
No,
I'm just saying,
I don't know why you don't like Philly.
Well, I just don't,
oh yeah,
there we go.
I just don't,
here's my thing with 56.
And it's the same thing with,
I don't think offensive linemen
should wear 50's numbers.
I think only linebackers should wear them
and edge players.
Now 50 is an interior lineman
has never worked out great.
in my opinion.
50 for me is Michael Singletary.
Yeah, but 50 should only be Michael Singletary.
In fact, I don't even think it's cool
when linebackers wear it anymore.
Yeah.
Kind of an ugly number.
Yeah.
My favorite number these days is 13.
13's dope.
Yeah.
Wanted to wear it in high school,
but they wouldn't let me.
You've been, well, speaking of 50s,
you wore 50s.
I wore 55.
I wore 55 in high school,
but I was an end.
Shout out to James Laronitis as well.
Wanted to wear 13
because Alex Brown,
remember the Florida defensive end?
at UVA, they just give you a pro number,
make you wear pro socks.
That's what it was.
Yeah, unless Coach Groh really likes you,
you're Darrell Blackstock
and you get to wear number one.
Maybe you just weren't his guy.
I wasn't his guy, maybe.
Shout out to Coach Groh, this is my guy.
All right, see you all Friday.
Peace.
