Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Week 7 Recap & Superlatives. Ninko on Patriots. Steelers vs Titans Recap. Antonio Brown in Tampa Bay.

Episode Date: October 26, 2020

(0:50) - Welcome and Shouts Out. (19:25) - Steelers vs Titans Recap. (36:47) - Ninko on Patriots New Normal, Vrabel in Tennessee, and Antonio Brown in Tampa Bay. (1:25:00) - Week 7 Superlative Awards.... Sign up for your DraftKings account at https://www.draftkings.com/sportsbook and use promo code : Greenlight Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Is your team f***? Yeah, they're in bad shape right now. Can't stop the run, number one. You can't stop the run. You can't win in the NFL. That's like, as a defensive player, you know that. If you can't stop the run, it's like just ripping the soul out of your team. And then offensively, it almost looked like the 20 years,
Starting point is 00:00:21 like the 20-year dynasty of the Patriots is so heavy that Cam was like getting just crushed under the pressure and the weight. Good morning, everybody. That's right. As early as you get up on Mondays, you can get green light right away, unless you're just one of those fucking weird David Goggins listening 4 a.m. Marathon runners. You're going to wait a couple hours. But now we're going to be a morning pot on Mondays. Macon's excited about it. Your boy, Scott Van Pelt, says it's midnight and I'm not tired yet.
Starting point is 00:01:18 It's about 9.30 p.m. and I'm tired as fuck. You ever think about hibernation? Yeah, I do all the time, actually. Bears up to eight months. Do you think they're more tired right before they start to hibernate? Definitely when they get out of hybridation. It's like, oh, shoot. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Bears got to wind down in there. They probably got their little vape pen. Yeah. Some candies. The PS. Yeah, like they're an Xbox. And they chill out for like an hour. And then they get tired.
Starting point is 00:01:49 And then they go to sleep for a while. I think when they come out, they're really groggy, like teenagers waking up for school. Homeroom, 8 a.m. Please, dude. Please. I prefer this time slot. This really opens up my week to do other things like drop pods on Wednesdays from time to time. I will aim to give you a pod on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:02:12 It's more of a film, deep dive. My esteem co-host will not be in, which will probably crush the ratings. because you come for Chris Long, you stay for Macon Gunner. That's what they say. Unsubscribe, midweek, please. Resubscribe, end of week. And we'll be joined every week. Well, Macon's going to try to make it every week, right?
Starting point is 00:02:37 I thought this was some sort of a mock trial run here tonight. We're going to, I'm going to... You seem committed. Well, no, I'm committed to Sunday night. I don't know if you are. I have put you on the spot on the pod. people comment on how bad you want to hear making on Sunday nights or Monday mornings how bad you don't you know what would have been cool was that Monday afternoon slot where
Starting point is 00:02:59 then you break down Monday night on your own and then it's released Tuesday morning where there's a great vast void of sports pods yeah yeah yeah well there's probably a reason I always think about that and by the way the numbers are great thanks to you guys this I swear this isn't one of these things where we're like, oh, things suck on, what is it, Monday at 4 o'clock? I mean, surprisingly, the numbers are still good. I hate the time slot. And selfishly, it opens my week up. So we're going to shoot for more Monday mornings.
Starting point is 00:03:31 We're going to be joined today by Rob Ninkovich. He's going to be like kind of our guest, third wheel co-host. We'll try to get one of those guys in every week. We're shooting for the stars with some of these guests. But I think it's fun when y'all get to, you know, get to know, one of the guys that comes on the show. A little recurring vibe, you know? And Ninko is great.
Starting point is 00:03:55 It's a good day to talk to Ninko after everything in New England, but hey, we're watching the Seahawks play the Cardinals right now, who just blew an opportunity to 14-point swing the whole thing. They got to pick via Buda Baker, and he's running the ball back for what looks like a touchdown until, I don't know, like, that's nightmare fuel
Starting point is 00:04:23 was the tweet I came up with. The first thing in my mind was getting chased down by D.K. Metcalfe, who was, we waited for the replay 20 yards behind him. Yeah, more like full calf, Metcalf. Yeah. Fully leaded this evening. Fully leaded.
Starting point is 00:04:38 High octane, the expensive gasoline all the way on the right, that's what you put in that bad boy. My man hawked Buda Baker, and Buda Baker looked like child running from like an adult. It was scary. It was scary.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Like when you were a kid and it was dark and you had to run to your room and you were like afraid there was somebody chasing you, decaf, Matt Caff was chasing you the whole time. And then Kingsbury, let's pride get in the way of a 13 to 10 football game thinking, Buda Baker just ran at 90 yards, we deserve the six. And they go forward on fourth down and don't get it.
Starting point is 00:05:12 They don't get it. It wasn't even close. So Seattle's in control of this ball game. The only thing I care about is the overhitting right now we're at 27. Listen, I'm rounding out a good weekend here personally. Going to take you out to a nice lunch when the pandemic ends. Thank you. Yeah, on me. Nice is lunch place in Charlottesville the way this weekend's gone. Beating walnut salad will be my order. I know where we're going right across the street. That's right. Ice water for drink.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Yep. Shouts out. Mm. Pizoo. Yeah, I didn't want to take your shout out. Okay. Pizu. It's your favorite place. Shouts out to Bezoo, Charlottesville. I'm going to take you out to a nice lunch because I have been kicking ass and taking names today. Listen, by the way, best chase down of all time, Benjamin Watson.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I don't know it in my head pictures. Patriots, tight end ran like damn near 127 yards because if you'd go diagonally across the field to hawk somebody. I forget what game it was, but you guys got YouTube. Check it out. Ben Watson, many moons ago.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Yeah, the tight. and it was Broncos, Champ Bailey, Hawk Champ Bailey, good pull there, Cowboy Reed, because Cowboy Reed's a Broncos fan, long suffering. He's got a ring. He's got a ring. He has a ring in his adult life,
Starting point is 00:06:28 but it felt like a rental to me. Yeah. You know, it wasn't like somebody grinded it out for 10, 15 years. This club is grinding it out. This club is grinding it out. They're very young. Julio Jones also can play some defense.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Julio Jones. He has hawked some people so badly. He makes me feel, like a god-awful tackler and I had my whole life to learn how to tackle this guy Julio Jones can do it all if Atlanta played him on defense they, you know, Dan Quinn might still be there.
Starting point is 00:06:57 You know who I think of when you say Chase Down? LeBron, Jean. Oh yeah, Chase Down Block. D.K. Metcalf just did the equivalent of that for a wide receiver. Wow. But I say that to say, I feel good about my chance tonight.
Starting point is 00:07:13 I have the Hawks and I have the over and again, rounding out a really nice Sunday. My weekend wasn't always as good, gamblers. I mean, it started with the quad doink. Everybody knows the quad doink by now, okay? It's trended for a while. It's a funny fucking video for some of you people, right? You're just, oh, that looks funny,
Starting point is 00:07:35 like rice lost in heartbreaking fashion. It's a geometric feat. The kicker actually hit the crossbar and the bottom bar and I mean hit all the bars. The fucking guy hit all the bars. But it's funny to you in passing. It's not so funny to people who got desperate and were chasing because of a bad week, two weeks ago and bet the house on a team that geographically, I have no idea where a rice is.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I know it's in Texas now. So are you looking for a new house? I'm not. The moral of the story is I'm okay. But great question. You're always on your dose. You're always ready to pounce. on a MLS.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Listen, I put too much money on Rice, okay? And Rice, you know, I'm so gun-shy after the past couple weeks. I bet the money line
Starting point is 00:08:32 and, you know, they're like four-point favorites. I'm just gun-shy. I turn on the score app because it's not on a TV in America and I notice they're down two scores in the second and I'm like, oh,
Starting point is 00:08:45 so naturally, if I find a way to turn on the game, it's going to change. That's the rule. I have to track down somebody's password and I'm deep in the interwebs.
Starting point is 00:08:57 I log on. They're coming back. They're down. Two scores, I think, in the fourth. You find a way to go up. 30 seconds to go. Go ahead. Touchdown.
Starting point is 00:09:08 They get a two-point conversion to make it three. They kick off to middle Tennessee state. Never sleep on Middle Tennessee State. I played in Murphy's Borough. It is a motherfucker. You blocked a kick there to win the game.
Starting point is 00:09:18 I think they prefer Middle Tennessee these days. No more state. Middle Tennessee is not to be fucked around with. We barely got out of there alive in 2007. And they get the ball back. Naturally, 30 seconds to go. They kick a field goal. They find a way.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Long field goal. Tie it. Send it in overtime. I'm already celebrating. I'm ready to old takes exposed. All the people in my mentions about Rice. We're in overtime. Well,
Starting point is 00:09:46 Middle Tennessee doesn't make their kick. Rice is lining it up. That's when the quad doyink happens. But there's a second overtime. All right, here we go. Well, Rice is lining up a field goal again. They hit it.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Penalty. And coming off of that, we got a re-kick. Most dangerous, dirtiest word in football, re-kick, it's blocked. And I lose the bet. And I am in a deep,
Starting point is 00:10:13 dark hole. And I'm like, I was going to liken this to the Revenant. Like Leo and the bear, if you've seen the movie. I haven't. The bear is rice, for those of you who are, I'm Leo, the Revenant is the weekend, and the bear is rice.
Starting point is 00:10:31 And I got my fucking ass mauled on that bet. But the Titans game was a Hardy by the river, if you've seen the movie. You haven't seen the movie. Still haven't. Nope, I didn't see it in a last. The Titans game was a hearty by the river. the river. And Stephen Goscowski were those nice Native American men that killed off Ed Hardy for Leo. Yikes. Yeah. And I climbed out of that hole and I am in the green and I am waiting on my weekend to wrap up in a really, really good way. You should see the movie. It's a good movie.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Rice is located in Houston, Texas. I thought it was Dallas. I guess I don't know where Rice is. So I'm on the other side And we are in the green Also the Liberty Cuckolds One in O since I learned the rules of fantasy football The scoring? Yeah, well, you know what they say Teach a man to fish
Starting point is 00:11:26 He'll fish the rest of his life And that's how I'm going to be in fantasy football Lead a horse to water Can't make him drink Or her But you teach the horse how to fish A horse can fish the rest of his life.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Lifetime. That's what I'm doing right now with fantasy football. Thank you for teaching me how to play fantasy football. You are welcome. Good luck getting out of the basement. I'm one and no since I learned the rules.
Starting point is 00:11:51 That's all I'm saying. Shout out to Jared Cook, tight end day. I'm not a big fan of that day because I think it's a little unfair that they get a day. Didn't George Kittle just make that up? Yeah, but like TV people really ran with it.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I don't know why every TV person is so horny for that shirt. like we get it dude it's tight end day it's fucking tight end day way cool they're big guys and they catch a lot of touchdowns and they're fun sweet when's hustle dn day jump on the pile after exactly pad the stats i want to shout out chris long okay you uh you came over you helped me move some furniture that's a very neighborly thing of you to do yeah that was awesome was one of the highlights of my weekend because I'd never been invited over to your house. Right. You have appeared at my house a bunch, but you have never been invited over.
Starting point is 00:12:44 That's true. You have been to my house. Sands invitation. And shout out to the Eagles. Yeah. I know that I potted about it, but I look up today, they're hosting a playoff game if things stand. Huh? Yeah, no offense to all your loyal. birdie listeners.
Starting point is 00:13:07 They stink. I wouldn't say they stink. Once they're healthy, they could have something. At present, they sort of stink. However, Boston Scott, we talked about it on the last show, and it's not distracting at all. You watching that game behind my head
Starting point is 00:13:21 the entire time I talk. Boston Scott scores a touchdown to win the ball game, and we drafted them. We drafted them. We picked them up. I know the rules too, because we didn't know
Starting point is 00:13:31 if Bucks Raiders was going to happen. It happened. We look smart. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you do look smart. And he steps up big against the Giants. They call him the giant killer.
Starting point is 00:13:43 I mean, he really is. I mean, the Giants stay getting beat by Boston Scott, which is not a, I love Boston Scott, but it's not a good sign for the Giants. It's not a good sign for the Eagles. Listen, the Eagles would probably host the Bears if it started today. How about them apples? Philly would explode.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Foles W.W.W.I.P. would explode. WIP is a radio station. Context clues led me to that destination. Oh my God. I want that to happen so bad. Here's the thing. It's like week seven. Yeah. At the moment. Touchdown Tyler Lockett. Oh. He plays for the houses. He doesn't. He plays for the yachts. They're going to hit the total in the first half. team I manage.
Starting point is 00:14:35 I can't wait to truthfully tell my lovely wife Meg that I am winning a lot of money this weekend. And it can be true for once. Wife Alert. How'd your wife do on last show's wife alert? So this is funny. So we started Wife Alert last week. And when I say my wife hasn't listened to one of our pods
Starting point is 00:14:55 since Jesus was a baby, I mean, that's being conservative. God love her. she, I mean, she's got a lot of shit going on. She's just two kids. Not really time to, like, you know, again, I'm sorry. She pointed out that I never log into the baby monitor.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Didn't know I could do that from work. I'll do it now. Yeah, she, first phone call I get Friday morning is from my lovely wife, who's outrunner errands and says, wife alert when I pick up the phone. And I said, what are you going to do about it? So I can say whatever I want on that pod. What are you going to do about it?
Starting point is 00:15:32 And then she said, I'm not going to do anything about it because I love your podcast. Wow. Shout out to Meg. That's heartwarming. I did not, I did not, my wife alert did not buzz this weekend. So my lovely wife, Kate, is keeping it consistent and continuing not to listen. Okay. Now, what I worry about is your wife Meg telling her about wife, hey, they have a stupid,
Starting point is 00:15:56 they have a good segment called Wife Alert where they see if we're listening or not. and then I get found out well the tough part is they have to then listen it's an incentive it's two more uniques for us that's two more subscriptions like long game again
Starting point is 00:16:15 that's what we're doing every fucking subscription counts even if it's our lovely wives who are just literally trying to find wife alert subscription is a funny thing remember magazines in general magazine subscriptions didn't we have to get like our parents to buy those
Starting point is 00:16:33 listen I read so much Rick Riley on the shitter when I see his face I smell poo I ran I read Rick Riley on the shitter until my legs went numb did you ever have to go door to door selling magazine subscriptions no dude
Starting point is 00:16:48 I'll look into that but I mean like an obscene amount of Sports Illustrated as a kid I used to love like skipping the article and reading the shorter stuff. ADD. So yeah, Eagles, Bears is going to be fun.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Let me shout out Joey Bosa real quick before we get into Steelers, Titans. A game that nobody watched today, to be frank. And ironically, it was probably the most exciting brand of football all day long, Chargers, Jaguars. Nobody watched that game. I sure, heck didn't.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Fun game. And again, Herbert carried my squad today. I picked him up off the street. He's the future of the Liberty Cucks. But, and I love like my name is the Lib Cucks. Yeah. Which is awesome because I get called that sometimes on Twitter for having a shred of empathy.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Joey Bosa is teaching Kalevon Chase on. Joey Bosa three years ago via the checkdown because I'm gonna be big and credit them. I mean, they credited me the other day with something. Yeah, they basically repeated my tweet, added the video and said HT. What does HT stand for?
Starting point is 00:18:10 Hat tip. Is that what the fuck that stands for? Check down, thanks for tipping your hat. Next time, just retweet me though. Did you just say retweet? Yeah. You're doing this on purpose. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Retweet. Okay. Checkdown showed a video three years ago of Tomba Ali, who was an all-time, she's great. rusher and was a technician and he caught he ran down or Joey Bosa ran him down after game and these are division rivals you know at this point Tomba's on his way out and Joey's on his way in and uh Joey looks like the next 80 plus sack guy in the division Tomba teaches him under the lights empty stadium tricks of the trade I mean there's some cameras around but I truly believe it was all about like hey I really like this kid's game I want to teach him a thing or two and they're going through swipes and dips and that sort of thing. And three years later,
Starting point is 00:19:06 Kalevon gets the same mentorship from Joey Bosa today that that Joey got from Tamba. And that's super cool, man. Like, those are two technicians. The third kid, I haven't watched him play enough. Tomba, Joey, unbelievable technicians, and obviously very cool to take a young player
Starting point is 00:19:24 under their wing unnecessarily. Enough shoutouts. Let's talk Steelers, Titans, and then we'll get Ninko on. I was excited about this game. I had some cash on distillers. Again, I remind you every week till they lose, then I'll just go ghost on this whole thing. You were teased God last year, I think.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Are you like Moneyline Master this season? I don't know what my moniker's gonna be, but I'm off the teases. I actually just, funny you ask, I'm off the teases as of like a week ago. Me and teases, we parted ways, you know? The teases are like, I liken them to bad decisions that
Starting point is 00:20:02 Carson makes. I'm a terrific gambler. I can support my family. I don't have to, but I could. I'm sure. I know some ball. I'm lying. I'm not a great gambler. I'm learning. I'm better than average. But teasers are like that throw that Carson made the other night. Like no need to do it. Everything's going great. Really, no need to involve a total. Just go with your gut and do what I did today, which was Steelers and to pick them. And I had them I had them as my Super Bowl team. Still do, I'll remind you again every week
Starting point is 00:20:35 until they start to suck and then I'll just kind of get quiet about it like when I picked the Lions to win the NFC North. Haven't mentioned that in a month. It's been a great month. Steelers got it done today. Two undefeated teams, showdown, physical teams, teams that are going to be in it
Starting point is 00:20:52 at the very end this year. No doubt about it. Playoff teams. teams. I had underestimated how easily the Titans would at least sort of duplicate what they did last year through the first half of the season. I do worry about Derek's workload, but this is a scary team and they really play a lot like their head coach. And I mean that as a compliment. But the Steelers came out mad. You know, you could hear the pads popping. Eric Ebron's missing a birthday party. Remember that. fucking guys should be on their bye week supposed to be right now if I was playing that game I would be pissed off
Starting point is 00:21:34 I would be taking it out on the Titans you know there's that extra inconvenience like guys have birthday parties to be at man you guys fuck this up some of those collisions on Henry were amazing amazing here was the big story of the game
Starting point is 00:21:51 to me third down was a huge story and the Steelers started hot third down they were 13 of 18 and i knew coming in we knew coming in this was a problem for the titans really surprising that they've been this poor on third down i mean from personnel standpoint it's not that surprising but they're well-coached football team you got to find a way to be better and they weren't good today again steelers just ripped through 13 of 18 on third down and it got worse today for the titans because of dionte jemps
Starting point is 00:22:26 Johnson. Duke comes back and immediately you're worried with or without him if the Titans have enough people to pick up all the weapons that the Steelers have. Deontay Johnson right off the bat was a problem on third down. A couple times. Even when they throw to him short of the sticks and everything feels short of the sticks right now in Pittsburgh, but it's working. he'll redirect, put one foot in the ground, and then get back outside. It happened on a touchdown late as well. I mean, one of the first third downs he caught,
Starting point is 00:22:59 he's seven yards short of the sticks. They trust this guy to make people miss, and it makes sense. And he was great versus press. I mean, he really played a great game, and he changes the dynamic of this offense going forward. and an offensive was already functioning pretty well. Complete football team.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Claypool one target. But that's the thing. I mean... Focus on him. Three weeks ago, Claypool had like four touchdowns, right? This week I saw a checkdown graphic, I believe it was, Calvin Johnson,
Starting point is 00:23:40 Chase Claypool. Hey, they're the same size. That's cool. And I am not throwing shade at Chase Claypool. I think he would understand that like Megatron's a goat and my man is like six games old. Now he looks like he's going to be a fucking monster. But to the point,
Starting point is 00:23:57 he gets one target and that was on the third and short play it turned into fourth and inches that we'll talk about in a bit. And guys just get buckets. They don't miss a beat. Juju had a rebound type day. I know because he's on the cuckolds. Nine for 85.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Nine for 85. And that snuck up on you too. By the way, Deonté had five conversions on six targets. And on those six targets, six catches for 56 yards and a touchdown on third down. Only went to him once in the third. I mean, you know, that's where they sputtered a little bit. Juju was huge on that late, late drive,
Starting point is 00:24:35 the 16 play drive. They didn't get points, but they ran eight minutes off the clock. And basically, when you look at it, Tennessee ran out of time. You know, it wasn't a function. of them just, hey, we couldn't get a drive going to win. It felt like if the Steelers didn't eat the clock at the very least on that last drive
Starting point is 00:24:55 and flipped the field, they were at risk of losing that ball game because the momentum is the way the Titans were rolling offensively. Time of possession, 37 minutes to 23 in favor of the Steelers. Yep. And that was huge. It was huge in the first quarter when they got off to a hot start and they kept Derek off the field and two minutes of possession, I believe it was, for Titans in the first quarter. So, I mean, think about that 16 play drive that Juju played such a big role in.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Third and one, Juju, third and seven, Juju, Juju, for a chunk. Then a third and five and a third and six to Johnson. And they're almost perfect on third down until that last drive, the one we just talked about with Claypool. And we will get to that and the decision there. But again, on a day you barely hear from the next Megatron, that's what I was told by the checkdown this week. No shade. He's going to be awesome.
Starting point is 00:25:50 They still get buckets. And they started hot. They found themselves up 14-0. You know, two drives that we talked about spanning playing keepaway for a while there, 10 different guys touched the ball. And they were lucky, okay? They recovered two of their own fumbles. And, you know, they scored on both those possessions.
Starting point is 00:26:13 So, Titan stopped the blue. bleeding a little bit in the second, ate up six minutes on a long drive. They had luck of their own third and nine tip pass, turned into a touchdown drive, should have been maybe intercepted, poor throw, and Tannahill fumbled in the red zone.
Starting point is 00:26:31 They recovered. So it's 14-7, but before the half, the Titans really made some questionable decisions. This was, I almost made this of what happened at it, but I think you got a really good one. They just started pissing down their leg.
Starting point is 00:26:42 They got really lucky, first off on a Deonté, drop on a free play, and they're down 17 and 7 at that point. The big sequence that everybody remembers got started with a botched special teams play. You know, Steelers kick it short, Tennessee, what do they bobble it? And they end up with the ball in like the 10th, so they're pinned and they're down. They need points, but they also can't be stupid and give the Steelers the ball back with a bunch of time and a short field. T.J. Watt was great today, okay?
Starting point is 00:27:16 The guy's a fucking animal. As far as being a complete football player, this guy is as good as the guys we talk about week to week, just about any of them. And he had a big sack late in the game, which was beautiful. He saw the chip and he pushed the tackle by right at the right time because he's like, hey, the chipper's about to blow me up.
Starting point is 00:27:37 A lot of guys spin back, but he had the wherewithal to push Dennis Kelly by and go for the football. This was one of his biggest plays. his TFL with these guys backed up before the half, knifing inside Kelly, was the thing they needed to capitalize on that pinback. And it killed their drive before Tennessee knew it was dead.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Rable deserves a lot of credit for not panicking in the second, but they give the ball back to the Steelers with 154. And that's where you have the great punt return. By the way, the dude just made the wrong cut, in my opinion. I mean cut right into a trail player on the left side of the field. I believe if he cuts the right and runs a little sideways, he outruns the punter and he scores. But either way, at least to 24-7.
Starting point is 00:28:29 And they were lucky not to be down 27 to 7 at the half or worse. This is insane. They get the ball back again with 45 seconds to go in the half and they actually throw it on third and six. Backed up, like 10-yard line. Incomplete. Bad snap on a point. punt. They got what they deserve for that.
Starting point is 00:28:47 And they fire fire try to just get the ball off, but there's too many men down the field. Pittsburgh basically takes over like they went for it on fourth down. And they bailed them out with a penalty and then a pick on a Hail Mary. But this was the craziest shit in the world.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Did you see this pick make? Yep. Did you see this fucking guy running out of the end zone lateraling it and shit down like 20 points inside his own 10? Did he drink a four loco before the game? Resource innovative. Man, I want to know, like, fly on the wall for obvious reasons.
Starting point is 00:29:21 There was halftime speeches I wanted to hear more than Mike Vrable, and they were up in Boston, or Foxborough, but I want to know what Mike Vrable said. That was a terrible way to end the half. And you're thinking, I put a star next to my bet on my big board, and that's the kiss of death. Don't do that. At halftime? No, in like the third quarter.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Steelers couldn't put them away. They've got to work on that. I mean, they're going to get leads like this on good teams this year. They're starting to click a little bit offensively, complete football team again. Third quarter felt like a struggle for them, you know, and they go up 27 to 7 with a field goal, but those are their only points. So Minka had a bad half. He fell down on the AJ Brown touchdown. If you saw that, I don't know what it was about.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Bad angle, bad tackle. I don't know. And then he keeps the key Steelers drive alive. later in the game by holding Johnny Smith on fourth and inches. By the way, the thing that set up that fourth and inches was that the Spillane hit? Oh my God. That dude went fucking Independence Day with his little fighter jet on the big alien spaceship. You remember that scene?
Starting point is 00:30:34 You got to watch movies. Totally sacrificed himself for the good of the team. My man exploded his shoulder. He couldn't feel a thing after he ran into Derek. Henry, but he fucking, he got the stop and all they had to do was not hold John us Smith and, you know, one of the best players on your team is on the hook for second really bad play of the half after he made a big play last week. And that touchdown was the one that made it 2724 and you're thinking, Steelers are going
Starting point is 00:31:06 to win, or the Titans are going to win this game. And I think it was Dennis Quaid that flew into the space shuttle in ID4. I can't wait until you ask me if I've seen a movie and I have. Yeah. It's going to happen. Yeah, eventually it's going to happen. So now 10 minutes ago, this is the drive we're talking about, drive of the game. Because Tennessee can string together a seven-minute drive themselves, as I mentioned earlier,
Starting point is 00:31:31 and all those conversions that they made, kept that drive alive and basically ensured that you were at the very least going to go to overtime. Because I was not worried about the Titans beating them with a big play outside of 8. AJ Brown and you just do what you have to do. Don't fall down. Play off. Braybel did a great job when he took the penalty on OPI and made it third and long. And they eat up all that clock we talked about earlier. Eight minutes, 16 plays.
Starting point is 00:31:58 They get down there. The Claypool damn near conversion, which I felt like he was over the sticks, but we didn't get a look at it. And it's going to be fourth and inches. And I'm saying if I'm the Steelers, I'm going for it. How about you? Up three late in the game. Go.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Yeah, just fucking go. That's the thing now. And I've been a defender in those situations. I don't want you to go for it. That should tell you something. Especially if you got Derek Henry who could sneeze for three inches, you know? Actually, when you sneeze, you can go as far as about 47 feet, I think we're being told. Right now.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Yeah. So yeah. Viral load. I hate to say that. Yeah. You don't want a viral load. From Derek Henry. I mean, power.
Starting point is 00:32:42 I don't want to think about it. Nah. Get that guy a tissue. Mask even better. Mask would be better. But Vrabel did a great job because he recognized this and the announcer's like, this is interesting. He's accepting the OPI and that's going to give the Steelers another third down. But they know Big Ben in the red zone right now trying to throw the ball to the end zone.
Starting point is 00:33:03 He has the arm for it, but they're just not doing that right now. And you could tell this was a great play by who was it? Jayon Brown. Yeah. People think he needs to step up. He stepped up today. He already had a pick on, he already had a pick on the tip earlier,
Starting point is 00:33:20 the Simmons tip. And by the way, the Big Ben got lucky a little bit earlier with a similar tip pass. Juju gets blanketed by Jayon Brown, who's had a nice day again in coverage,
Starting point is 00:33:34 serves it up for Hooker. So Hooker just finishes the day. That gives the Titans the ball back. And again, you're thinking, And they're probably going to score. Is it going to be three or is it going to be seven? And are they going to win this game outright? But a big shout out, Stefan Toot, who we saw at the Kenny Chesney concert, by the way.
Starting point is 00:33:53 I don't know what Steelers fans think of this guy. Do they love him? Do they think he's, you know, because he's a high pick or whatever. And he hasn't been a national name necessarily. The guy's fucking really good and helps you guys a lot. I'm sure you know that. He forced the grounding that made it second and 20. And that really affected not just the way the field goal was kicked.
Starting point is 00:34:15 I don't know they ended up losing any yardage because they got 10 back. But it changed the way they ran that set of downs. And it basically ensured to me that you weren't going to lose that game in regulation. Although my balls went in my stomach when they threw the ball. They took that one shot to Davis before the field goal. Oh, my God. I was like, this is for sure how my day ends, you know, P.I. So terrific game.
Starting point is 00:34:43 It's certainly delivered in a roundabout way and I would watch that 10 out of 10 Sundays. And Gaskowski from 45. Everything's the right. Everything's the right with him. You know, I'm sorry, I'm assuming you guys saw the kick that was a good redirect.
Starting point is 00:35:00 He missed the kick and the Steelers ended up winning the ballgame. I think the Steelers match up well against them. Again, people are going to say, Devin Bush is out. Maybe the Steelers aren't going to miss him. This isn't the game they were going to miss him in. He's a cover guy as much as he is a run defense guy.
Starting point is 00:35:18 And as you can see, Spillane is Dennis Quaid in ID4. I hope it's Dennis Quaid because I've said it five times now. All right, well, without further ado, let's get Ninko on. I mean, he's got a lot to say about probably a lot of these AFC teams and he should be home from Bristol by now. Big important Bristol guy. I'm going to be a little late for the pot. I'm just driving home from Bristol.
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Starting point is 00:36:49 with it green light hotline he's back from bristol the talent has gotten back from bristol what's up How are we doing, guys? I'm good. I had a long day up at 5.30, home at 10. We're good. Let's go. I got it. We're doing it, man.
Starting point is 00:37:05 I mean, this guy's on fumes making. And here you are complaining about being awake. You're at work and you're watching your old team and they don't look anything like your old team. I know it had to be a weird day. We'll get to that in a second. But a rival of your old team is undefeated. Pittsburgh Steelers look like the most complete team in the league. Are they the most complete team in the league?
Starting point is 00:37:28 Yeah. I mean, I think that they, yeah, I'll say they are the most complete team. When you look at Kansas City, I don't know, like, yeah, the Kansas City can be explosive offensively, but there's question marks on their defense. The Steelers, I feel like, have pretty much the whole package, you know, defensively, they got a good secondary. They can get some pressure on the quarterback. They have some good interior linemen.
Starting point is 00:37:53 You know, special teams-wise, they got a great kicker, one of the best of the leagues. then you got Rathusberger coming back, you know, from his elbow injury. I think a lot of people have questions on what he was going to be. Well, he looks like he's just allowing, he's just like, hey, coach, I'll throw the ball short this year. I mean, his arm still looks fine. I don't know if that's intentional or what they're doing. I mean, look, I think he looks like a quarterback who's played a lot of football in the NFL and, you know, had a year off last year.
Starting point is 00:38:22 So maybe that helped him a little bit mentally and just have that refreshed, rechurch. charged feeling that sometimes you need in the NFL when you've played a long time. It's almost like having a little time away helps you. So I think they look pretty good. The other team that I think is a really good football team is a team that just beat. So Tennessee Titans, if you can run the football and you have a good running game, that's the recipe for winning football games. Because then your quarterback doesn't have to be perfect. He just hands the ball off and then you do a play action pass and then your receivers have five yards of space with, you know, a hard play action. So I think those two teams are going to be surprisingly deep in the playoffs. And I wouldn't
Starting point is 00:39:08 be surprised if the Steelers overtook the Ravens or, you know, I think they're better than the Ravens. They're winning that division, man. They're winning that division. 100%. They're winning that division. And the reason I worry about the Titans is, and I guess I would worry about the Steelers the same way, but their defense isn't going to allow them to be in this situation a lot unless they run to like Kansas City and Kansas City's hot. I think the Titans are going to struggle when they have to play catch-up like they did today. You know, and when the run game isn't just easy. You know, like Tanna Hill did not make great throws today.
Starting point is 00:39:40 He didn't have a great day. And I thought you saw the separation in those two teams is Tennessee can win, can win ball games. They like to win them their way. And I feel like Pittsburgh can win in a lot of different ways. right now. No, definitely. And I think if you were to look at the last play before the half, the Steelers took a shot
Starting point is 00:40:02 and threw an interception, which I'm sure Big Ben's looking at that tape tomorrow and is going to say, look, I wish I just would have thrown a five-yard checkdown or taking what the defense gave me and got the three points there. And then the last drive of the game before they threw the interception in the end zone, he should have just taken what the defense gave him. And they kicked another three points. That would have been six points and they're up nine. And there isn't that whole last two-minute situation going on.
Starting point is 00:40:31 So they're going to get better. They're going to improve as a team. I just like the Steelers because there's no drama. There's no nonsense. There's no A-B stuff. There's no figure-pointing. This is why you were good. They're just playing and they're playing tough.
Starting point is 00:40:49 I like James Connor. I think that he's a really hard running back. We love James Connor. catch and run guy does a lot of great things out of the backfield um it's injured he's mad at james connor because of fantasy today well he's on my team he's my starting right back what yeah did you see those two two tuds that that came back one one didn't come back went through his hands actually i did see that we're gonna get to that in a bit i guess the question that throw was it kind of
Starting point is 00:41:18 his hip, you know. By the way, I mean, amazing that Tomlin managed so many personalities. It all comes to light when everybody leaves and that sort of thing. When your eyes are this big? Yeah, I mean, he's just consistently nervous as fuck because he's putting out fires all over the building, I guess, the last decade plus. The coach on the other side, I mean, he made, and I didn't love his end of the half management. That was kind of out of character for them. like I hated that they were trying to score you know like backed up
Starting point is 00:41:49 on third down like why are you throwing the ball? Why are you lateraling the ball? I was saying this to make whoever picks the ball off in the end zone at the end of the half down like 20 points and is just running around inside your own 10 throwing the ball backwards like what the fuck are you doing? I don't know what they're doing. I was hoping he would
Starting point is 00:42:05 fumble and then they'd recover it and score. But Braves had a really good sequence last week with the clock he changed a rule basically effectively last postseason He took the penalty today on fourth an inches, which I thought was a wise call. Because if I'm Pittsburgh, I'm getting a few inches and the game is over. And that led to the pick, right?
Starting point is 00:42:27 So it paid off. He seems like maybe like an outside, dark horse kind of coach of the year candidate. Did you think he would be such a good coach? Because a lot of guys in New England, they can't take it somewhere else and recreate it. Well, he played. So I feel like there's kind of a difference. Maybe if you played under Bill Belichick versus coaching under Bill Belichick, you might have a different perspective on situations.
Starting point is 00:42:54 I mean, I guess from all the stories that I heard about him, he was a very intelligent football player, very smart on situations. I would always kind of give it back to Bill on if he messed up a certain thing, he would just let him know about it. Yeah, let's say he was like a real dick. Yeah, like he was a sarcastic, like, asshole. And he's probably one of the coaches. which is that is a sarcastic asshole, you know?
Starting point is 00:43:17 So he looks like a guy that you just be like, what is he mad at me now about? Or like, no, he just looks like he has an intimidating demeanor to where you would be like, and he would probably give you shit about anything and everything to try and make you, oh,
Starting point is 00:43:33 you think you're smart or you think you're this, you think you're that and then like just completely knock you down to real life. Yeah, he probably challenges everybody. 100%. I mean, there in scout team putting on a jersey, you know, they're like showing people, this is how you need to run these routes,
Starting point is 00:43:49 or this is how this guy blocks. I mean, I think as an ex-football player, when you have that experience of 14 years in the NFL, I think players just generally gravitate towards a player coach who played in the past that was an actual football player. I mean, the majority of coaches that are head coaches don't, player didn't play at like a super high level. This guy played at a high level, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:19 So he played at a very high level that you got to respect. I mean, he's got three Super Bowl rings. And he was really good. It helped. I mean, he got a job quickly. The guy went to go coach the linebackers in Ohio State. Then a couple years as a D.C. Was actually like one of the 31st ranked defenses.
Starting point is 00:44:36 And I got a head coaching job when he was the D coordinator. Yeah, which feels like ancient history now. I think he's, he's what makes it interesting to me because I always don't think I don't always think that players are going to go be great coaches now they're going to garner respect more easily but coach you got your boy fish sure yeah fish yeah he was a player he's a player yeah he had a mustache in the riviera Rivera almost said Riviera no Rivera absolutely del Rio was a was a player I mean there's a number of eric Biedemie was a player I mean there's a number of players the
Starting point is 00:45:11 coach, but I just never thought he just breaks the mold from a Patriot standpoint. He's fun, he's brash, he's colorful, and he was a player. And like, you know, it's just, I think a New England guys is the- He doesn't overthink stuff. No. That's what I'm, he's not an, he's not overthinking, like, he's going into these games. We're like, this is how we're going to win it. And if we're going to lose this game, it's because we went for it on fourth and one. But he never panicked in the second half, which made a lot of sense. Like, I'm just, he's cool, man. Like, you know, okay, we're down we're still going to run the ball and do what we do. We're not going to try to turn it into a two-minute deal because that's not what we do.
Starting point is 00:45:46 How about your Pats, man? We talked earlier in the week and you called it. I actually, it's the one bet I lost this weekend. Can you see this? Yeah, I see some shit behind you. Just knocked that off. I got to take the Patriots stuff down after that game. You have some helmets.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Also, he's a sign stealer. go to the helmet. Yeah, he's got like all his helmets. You know, quarterback towels? I steal those. These are the Super Bowl quarterback towels. I mean, this is the Super Bowl quarterback towels. Hey, I was hammered him.
Starting point is 00:46:25 I was hammered in my house and I get a knock at the door. And Meg's like, who's that? And it's Ninko with six big pictures in his hands. He ripped all the pictures down to me. Like if I got a game ball, there weren't six. But, but. Yeah, I got one. I got a bunch here.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Yeah. Like on the walls. Like shit that you're not supposed to just take with you. he was like here you go buddy i know i know you i know you're not coming back so i want you to have all your pictures hold on here we come he robbed the facility blind rob and his name's rob look at this mask the clown mask that he dog he fucking scares his kids with that mask that's child abuse no they're not scared anymore which is sick which is not good i would worry about that this is the one that i came to your house in remember yeah i remember he came to my house what did you do you come to the
Starting point is 00:47:10 door. You didn't scare me though. No, yeah, you just stick your head in there. I try to get a new mask every year. I got one on Amazon this year. It really sucked. Yeah, I got a mask one time. It was a dog mask. Oh, yeah. Were you the underdogs? Oh, are the Patriots, the underdogs the next year? Hey, guys, everybody hates Boston. We only have 27 Super Bowls in fucking, we're the poor guys from Foxborough. Did you guys bark like,
Starting point is 00:47:40 or were you like, well, no, the defense that day didn't bark like, woof, but Nick Foles barked like, boos. You guys are ankle buyers.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Listen, we got off track. Let's get back on track. Is your team fucked? Yeah, they're in bad shape right now. Can't stop the run, number one.
Starting point is 00:48:02 You can't stop the run. You can't win in the NFL. That's like, as a defensive player, you know that. If you can't stop the run, it's like just ripping the soul out of your team. And then offensively, it almost looked like the 20 years, like the 20 year dynasty of the Patriots is so heavy that Cam was like getting just crushed under the pressure and the weight. So I just feel like when you look at the roster, I mean, Julian is, I love Julian and he's a badass and I love him to death. but like he's just looks like he's like he's 34 and like it sucks getting old it sucks getting old
Starting point is 00:48:44 that's why I retired at 32 because I don't I didn't want to experience that I just think you're still old though now I'm old now yeah get this look at yeah I mean hold on let's see when what age will I pass away how many how many concussions is that I don't know we'll see he's showing us his home has got a couple marks on there. Oh, it's got a few. Okay. He's always dropping. Hey. I'll help you then. I'll push you. Yeah, you got me lined up and then you get the fuck out of there and drop and I'd loop to contain from a three. Yeah, that would be fun to come back to for a second year. Hey, tap your hip, Chris. And the guy that gets me lined up retires. Um, so you said Jules is looking older. Jules is looking like he's dealing with an injury. Yep. Three targets.
Starting point is 00:49:35 one catch right in the fourth quarter with two minutes left um the quarterback cam newton doesn't look like he has any confidence right now when he throws the football he was short hopping dudes um you know he threw a couple good balls but like when they were down a ton over air males a pass before the half it gets intercepted so well that one felt like just a bad decision you know what i mean like that's not his throw right now if he has a throw at all that's really pretty to me. It's the, it's a seam or it's, it's intermediate middle. He's been hitting them. Look, the thing that's crazy is I've never seen a quarterback when they throw. They turn their head the other way. Like he like, he like does this when he throws. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He turns his head the opposite way and just like wings it.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Listen, and I guess the first question I should ask is they, they've already said they're going to. He's starting. You're starting next week. So it's not Stidham time, but. But what they need to do with the Patriots, what they were doing in the first and second week when they won their only two games of this season, they're a running football team, so they have to run the football. Like if they don't run the football and they get behind at any point, they can't run their game, like what they want to do. They want to run the football. They can't play from behind. No. Own the time of possession, run the football, play action pass. There's your separation. If you play from behind, so like they defend. They defer Jimmy G gets the ball,
Starting point is 00:51:07 marches it down the field, scores. It's like you can't win like that. So I just don't see the weapons. I don't see what they don't have a tight end. You know, they don't have a number one receiver. They have some decent running backs. Their offensive line is probably their strongest part of the team.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Yeah, all of a sudden, I mean, they're playing well. Like, listen, Cam's got the same weapons he had in Carolina, the same bad weapons. But he's just older now.
Starting point is 00:51:35 And no one, like, I just feel like anytime you criticize Cam now, it's like you hate Cam. I don't hate Cam. I love the way Cam plays. And I actually was wrong about, I was, maybe I was wrong about Cam. I also think that like I don't want to do the thing where he looks bad for three weeks because he looked pretty good the first couple weeks. He looked like he was going to be, especially the Seattle game when they got pushed to push the ball down the field a little bit. I was like, damn, they figured something out about themselves. I heard that he wasn't throwing the ball great in camp.
Starting point is 00:52:05 But that surprised me. He could be having a bad month. You know, Drew Breezes look better than he did, like, the first two weeks of season. I think a lot of times we discount that certain guys, like, they could get dinged and you don't know it. A quarterback. It's a finite movement.
Starting point is 00:52:20 It's an athletic movement. Like, maybe he has a bone bruise somewhere. Maybe his shoulders jacked up and we don't know about it. Or maybe this is just who he is now because he's older. And it's okay to speculate that, I think, because it was tough. sequence before he got bench was like damn what's going on here i mean honestly i think the the more embarrassing aspect of that game was the running game you had
Starting point is 00:52:47 third string running backs that just came off of practice squad literally running over people and they were all running hard though that the 49ers came in with a game plan of we're going to push these guys around we're going to run the football and they did that the swing passes, the RPO, you know, I think the game ball needs to go to 44. Who is at the fullback? Yeah, that dude, he was blocking dudes. Yeah, I mean, yeah, dude. He's, and he catches the ball out of the backfield? I mean, he's great. I said that this game was the biggest game for the Pats in recent history regular season that I could think of because they haven't been two and four since the year 2000. I mean, think about that. It's 2020. In 20 years, they haven't been too
Starting point is 00:53:34 four. So they're playing the Buffalo Bills. They still can win the division at two and four. The division is still within reach for them to get into the playoffs and have a shot at the tournament. But they're going to have to win this game against the bills. If they lose to the bills and they're two and five, like I couldn't put myself in that building. I couldn't put myself. How bad is it? I don't know. I don't know. When you win, sometimes it's bad. So I don't know what it's It was almost like when we would lose because we only lost like a few times like in the season. It would be like, okay, we lost. It wasn't as bad.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Right. Because then Bill was like, all right, like it wasn't as bad. But when you won, that's when he was like, this isn't good enough. We got to do this. Yeah, because he's got to take the time out of the day to crush your ego where if you lose, your ego's already crushed. Let's just fix it from a football standpoint. But it might be both at this point for that.
Starting point is 00:54:33 So at this point, I mean, I watched the post-game interviews. And, I mean, Cam, his body language and everything that he was portraying to me was a guy that has lost his confidence. And that's like one of the most important things as a quarterback. You have to have confidence. Anything as a football player. I mean, Chris, you know how mental the game is. Like, just having the confidence in knowing, okay, I'm not getting to the quarterback. I'm not going to the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:55:03 You get to the quarterback once, then you're just on a roll. Yeah, that's why they call it like you play with house money and nothing's changed, but you just have a sack in the first quarter. And you're like, oh, I could have two. You feel a hundred times better. The slumps are terrible? And in no way are we suggesting that like Cam shouldn't feel like it's not normal to feel a lack of confidence in a situation like this.
Starting point is 00:55:22 He got COVID. He had to miss two weeks. I chalked the Denver game up to that. Obviously, it's either going to take a little longer or this is kind of, you know, where we are right now. What do you think Bill said it half? Probably. I mean, that's the one thing that it's hard to read.
Starting point is 00:55:43 In certain moments, Bill doesn't scream at the team. Like most people would think, like, oh, he's going to come in there and throw the clipboard and throw the chalkboard. Like, he's just like very cut and dry. Like, look, guys, we're not playing well at all. Yeah. You know it.
Starting point is 00:56:01 I know it. can we all know it i can actually hear i'm saying this we're not we're not going to win this game unless we can turn things around and just take it one play at a time everybody come together do your job don't play anything more than what we're asking you to do and just look at each play as an individual play and then stack a good play together bunch of few good plays together a good series defensively a stop and then slowly we could get back into the swing of of things. He's not, like, that's what I would see him saying. Like, look, we need to go out here and play better than we have in the first half because right now it's not good enough. But what was
Starting point is 00:56:42 the maddest? Did you ever see him like on the other end of the atomic spectrum? Yeah, I've seen them really, I've seen them pissed off a few times, but I think one time, you know, the angriest that I've probably seen him, I think maybe it was the Chiefs Monday Night Football Game. It was really loud and crazy. We lost that game. I remember that one, actually. Tom Ali and Houston got out for Tom. Yeah. I think what gets him more frustrated is when you have like a really good week of practice and you don't put it on the football field for the games. We get the same line there.
Starting point is 00:57:22 You're not executing on the field and you had a good week of prep and you felt good going into the game, but then it looks like you never practice a day. All right. All right. you know so how about miami are they sitting there now but beef flow smart he knew what the patriots were coming to the year maybe he didn't know what cam was because that was a big wild card and still maybe a wild card but do you think beef flow and the dolphins after making that change with how how competitive they've been and maybe they will be beyond this point do you think they're saying damn the division really is wide open and there's no going back so if two goes out there
Starting point is 00:57:58 and lays an absolute egg and just looks awful for a month. Or we're going to feel dumb because we could have maybe competed to win the division. Because the bills eat one out today and Josh hasn't looked good the last couple weeks. I mean, do professional like decision makers ever feel like they've done wrong? No, but I do think of B-Flow if he made that decision as being- I don't think B-Flo made that decision. I don't think that was above B-Flo. I think that was ownership or somebody that said, look, we just,
Starting point is 00:58:28 drafted this guy. We're higher than we've drafted any quarterback in a long time. We're going to play him right now. And he sat for a while, relatively speaking. Most of those first picks, I mean, in the last decade, I saw something where he's the second longest sitting first round or top 10
Starting point is 00:58:44 pick. The first was somebody bizarre. What was Rogers drafted? Because he's... In the last 10 years, last 10 years. So since 2011, there's only one quarterback who sat longer, and I think it was Jared Gough. eight games, if I remember correctly.
Starting point is 00:59:01 I mean, you gotta get him out there. He's there to be the next quarterback. But it just felt like an odd time because you would, you had a feeling of this, this team had some momentum. And Fitzpatrick, when you watch Fitzpatrick run around, even when he scrambles for first downs, he doesn't slide. He's a fucking maniac.
Starting point is 00:59:20 He's like, and I don't mean this disrespectfully, because everybody knows how on the Greenlight pod, how I feel about Fitzmagic. He's playing like, like he's in a men's league with a bunch of pro football players. Like he's literally playing like he's in a rec league. Fuck it. And he's putting his head down and he's trying to hurt like hit people.
Starting point is 00:59:39 When I watch the game, I'm like, why are you doing that? Like, don't do that. You're from the Harvard. Like you're wasting those brain cells on a beautiful mind. You're like Russell Crow. So you seen that movie? No, actually. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:59:56 He hasn't seen any movies. Bobby, Bobby Fisher? No, Rob, have you seen the Blues Brothers? Forrester, also about a smart guy? We're on a mission from Gaddon. There you go. So there's one that he's seen. Okay, Browns, every drive in the second half today was a scoring drive.
Starting point is 01:00:13 That was actually a fun game. Believe it or not. Did you see Baker after the game dancing? I just, there's something about Baker that he could throw five touchdown passes and I just, this, oh, this is what I, on Friday. Sounds like he's not your guy. on Friday I made a picture then I said this is what Baker
Starting point is 01:00:32 Mayfield's career is okay you see this what I put that on television it's it's good it's happy oh I threw five touchdowns it's oh yeah I beat the Bengals oh yeah I beat circle it's a full circle oh I beat Washington
Starting point is 01:00:51 oh I'm the best I'm gonna get a big contract and then he plays a good team and looks absolutely awful touchdown Cardinals pick or was it a pick pick or just a pick pick pick it's okay damn it's not okay no that's okay
Starting point is 01:01:08 what's the score of that game 27 24 Seahawks hey say listen touch it back the bangles over five and a half wins I took that bet to start the season because they played in so many close ball games and Joe Burroughs definitely an upgrade
Starting point is 01:01:23 it's the right side is what I mean to say the most unlucky fucking team ever or bet ever Chargers, you remember that first game? Then they blow the Colts lead a couple weeks ago, the Eagles tie. Now this game? Like, not to mention the five point loss of the Browns. And the Hail Mary today.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Did you see the Hail Mary? I did. It was close. Bro, it was Red Wine just had to be there, bro. Just had to be there. The ball is going right to dude. And, you know, I'm probably not going to even cash this bet. So let me not complain. But the Bengals, they're going to be better.
Starting point is 01:01:59 They're going to be better. This guy's going to break the rookie passing record or something. Miles Garrett, this is what I want to ask you about. Nine sacks and seven games. Four force fumbles. Should last season and the incident matter when it comes to DPOI? No. I agree.
Starting point is 01:02:18 No. Last year, like, I don't know. Just let it go. I mean, the dude's a great football player. He's a beast. People make mistakes in the heat of the moment. I mean, other non-football playing people that are like normal citizens that go to, like, go to regular work every day, they don't realize sometimes, like, in the environment that we're in, you just like, sometimes you just lose it a little bit. And yeah, a little bit.
Starting point is 01:02:45 And when you lose a little bit, it can be bad because everybody, everybody on the earth sees you. Look, it's repeated just like that. You know, it's just loop. It's a loop. Never ending. So I'm just saying I get it. It also shouldn't matter. It like like it also absolutely shouldn't fucking matter.
Starting point is 01:03:08 There are guys in the Hall of Fame who did bad things. Like bad things, not football fight things. Bad things. No, bad, really bad things. Okay. No. And I don't have anybody in mind. There's plenty of them.
Starting point is 01:03:21 And that's not that doesn't that whole thing. honestly when I hear Miles Garrett I don't think that I don't think that at all I think about the guy like you know naturally because I know him personally but I think about the guy that likes dinosaurs like what the f are you seven yeah T-Rex seven-year-old with nine sacks loves T-Rexes William Hayes doesn't believe in dinosaurs my buddy William Hayes you should have seen them in Tanzania this year arguing over dinosaurs and whether they existed or not I thought William was going to I I thought William was going to be poking the bear a little too much at the at the breakfast table talking about scientists planting dinosaur bones. The government did it. That's some, that's some Jesse Ventura stuff. Oh,
Starting point is 01:04:10 good poll there. Oh, no. What happened? Pick. Back-to-back picks. That's awesome. Russell Wilson? Russ and Kyler.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Hey, Niko, do you give him? that's a Roxanne by the way do you give him I'm not even going to ask you about Baker I was I had sitting down here what does he think of Baker by the way he started today with that pick and I'm like oh my God it's
Starting point is 01:04:36 it's going to be Case Kingdom time soon on that pick did you see OBJ got hurt I think he tore his ACL that's what it looked like yeah so I mean you throw a pick you get Odell hurt trying to make a tackle but then he goes 22 at 23 for 297 and 5 touchdown
Starting point is 01:04:50 so pretty good game all in all but again kind of kind of not enough right I mean I don't believe this team until they beat a good a FC team I mean can they win their division no no so no well third place right now yeah and I mean listen if if Sinckey wasn't allergic to making me money they might be in fourth place let's hit the Cowboys real quick boys yeah I just want to say that the Dallas Cowboys will not have any more glory hole is what I'd like to call that term to get back to the glory days. That ain't happening anytime soon, okay?
Starting point is 01:05:40 Gloryhole days are over. Was that like a monologue that you were saving for us? You almost did it on fucking Get Up? No, that's just in my head somewhere. came out of one of those little like quarters crevices well it snuck through some of the tau synaps yeah towel so like did you see the bostic hit today yeah i think that's a ridiculous hit it was pretty bad i mean gosh i always give people the benefit of the doubt you know it bro you know i i never had a hit like that because i knew a quarterback especially a guy like andy dalton is not going to jump or die for he's going down you just touch him with the hands. That's all you do. And the worst part is the cowboys who are a laughing stock anyways, the O-Lyman don't get up and fucking get in the guy's face or do anything. I guess they're the backup. So, and I don't mean this like to be a dick. I'm just saying I bet I guess they're the guys.
Starting point is 01:06:33 They're just literally, they just got there. They just don't know. They don't know. But, but that whole thing, I mean, can we just decide to stop talking about the Cowboys after a certain point? Like what game is your network going to stop talking about the Cowboys? I said the Cowboys were done. The Cowboys are done. They were done when they were really done when the players were like the coaches aren't giving us the best, you know, chance to win. Like they're done.
Starting point is 01:07:04 They're a done team. There's no chance. Andy Dalton is freaking probably in another planet right now. I hope he's okay. I hope he's all right. I think after the game, he was like, did I get knocked out? I could see him like talking with the guy. It was rough and just everything about that has to be rough.
Starting point is 01:07:21 I saw somebody tweeted today. I feel really sorry for Cowboys fans. I don't feel sorry for Cowboys fans. Now, another one of your old teammates, our old teammates, looks like vintage Tom right now, the last two weeks, right?
Starting point is 01:07:34 We got the play action going. That big son of a bitch is starting to run without looking like he's got cinder blocks for feet, right? Rob, I mean, he's looking a little better moving around. Brady goes for Frankenstein boots I always call them Frankenstein boots
Starting point is 01:07:49 Yeah they look like Cinderblocks win number 254 today for Brady four touchdowns They hit some beautiful deep balls too The throw to Scotty Miller You're just like
Starting point is 01:07:58 He looks just fine to me dude Tom looks just fine to me Nothing wrong with Tom He's Some of his path I mean we all know this What is the Achilles heel To any quarterback
Starting point is 01:08:10 Especially when you're 40 plus Getting hit getting hit. So they play the Bears and Mac is literally like having a feast on him. Anytime, I can think back to 2009, 10, 11, 12, losing the Super Bowl to the Giants, you know, the thing that really, really affected Tom the most was being hit. And as a defensive lineman, what do you know? Same with Peyton Manning and Eli and Rogers and any quarterback, Drew Breeze. If you can get to Drew Breeze, if you can get to these guys
Starting point is 01:08:46 they start getting antsy, they can't complete the balls that they want to throw. They are their cuttings off. So for Tom and the Tampa Bay Bucks to, because I personally think that they're going to be insane. In like four weeks, we got AB coming out. That's the scary part. Every
Starting point is 01:09:02 and I want to get to what you just mentioned. They're going to be freaking good. So why AB right now? With everything I just said about their offense, with Mike Evans gets one target. And I know that it might be a thing with Mike, do you think it's a thing where he's not practicing?
Starting point is 01:09:18 So Tom's like, you ain't practicing. I'm not throwing you the ball. He's doing that with his eyes. Tom is pretty powerful. Tom is a very powerful man. I would say that if Tom is feeling any sort of uncertainty about me going on the football field and not being 100,000 percent positive,
Starting point is 01:09:40 the player that I want to be in this position, is going to be there, I'm going to make sure there's people there that are going to be there. So would you speculate that that's what's happening with Mike because of practice time? Yes, with Mike. Because I feel like I see the Godwin chemistry. So does my fantasy team. Number 10. Scotty Miller. He's got it with him because he sees like Julian Welker in him. He's W3. Walker 3. W3. W3. I don't see it. I mean, Grunk. He's getting on target with Grunk. The only guy that I feel him not having that connection with is
Starting point is 01:10:14 Evans right right right yeah I mean he was even starting to go to OJ Howard before OJ Howard got hurt and nobody was throwing him the ball down there for like the last year and a half I I just with everything going on there's not going to be and maybe from talking to you and your inclination on you know Mike Evans maybe there is maybe there is room for me yeah he's banged up so that that's what I was saying I think Mike's been on and off the practice field because of injury
Starting point is 01:10:41 and if you're not practicing to me, I'm not saying they got bad blood, but they're just not on the same page yet. How do you add an Antonio Brown? Like, there's nobody that you can double, you know, or take away? I mean, if you put Godwin, Antonio Brown, and Evans on the field at the same time, like, in a stack bunch, like, what do you do? It's pretty nightmarish, but somebody's going to end up, like, wanting more touches.
Starting point is 01:11:07 And it's not going to be Godwin. You know what I mean? And also another thing is all this says to me, right, is Tom's the GM. Well, they're, they probably, this is the thing, too, that it goes back to how did they court Tom Brady to get to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers? And I said if I was Rusarians or if I was the GM, I would go to Tom Brady and say, look, here's the keys. Here's the keys. Go ahead. Who do you want?
Starting point is 01:11:34 You want us to bring back Brunk? You want us to go trade for him? We'll go get them. You want us to, what do you need here? you want to be a Super Bowl seven rings with another team what do you need and we'll go get it for you and early in the season
Starting point is 01:11:48 they asked Bruce Ariens about A.B. He said no he's not a fit, not a fit. Well, now he's signed. Now he's there. So he's a fit. Somebody was in his ear like, hey, I played with this guy for one game and I you know, it was like we were like right here. Like I
Starting point is 01:12:04 back shoulder touchdown throw to him. He was with us for two days. He lived in my house. Yeah, he lived in my house. He was in my fucking kitchen in the when I came down like eating eggs and shit. He must have had a really good time at Tom's house because it came down to Seattle and Tampa. I think objectively right now a lot of people would say Tampa's the better football team because
Starting point is 01:12:22 they're complete and they'd also be a really tough matchup for Seattle. But he chose Tampa for a reason and obviously a lot of it's Tom. They must have a good relationship. But Bruce Ariens has seemed at times irked by having Gronk down there when he wasn't coming along so quick, Tom's first game, that sort of thing. Do you think there's any part of Bruce Arians that resents that Tom has all that power? And how did they, if in two weeks, Antonio pisses off Bruce, how does Bruce go, Tom? I want him to fuck out of here. I said no leeway on this thing. And what if Tom's like, hey, let's hang in there for another week or two? How does that go down?
Starting point is 01:13:01 I don't know, because Bruce looks like the type of guy that would just backhand you. You know, like he doesn't he doesn't look like the nicest like yeah i'm sorry just and they're like you know like he looks like he just smacked the shit out of you so i mean i don't know how that would particularly go i would assume that there has been very clear instruction to ab that from tom look i stood on the table for you yeah we we could use a guy like yourself and your back is pretty much against the wall. Yeah, he went from 40 mil to one mill this year. Yeah, like you're, you have really no other options here besides playing for a quarterback like myself that we've played together for a week and then things didn't work out.
Starting point is 01:13:51 So I think, I think that that would be enough. But if there was, if there was any type of issue, I think Tom would probably just be like, all right, yeah, well, like, we're good. Yeah, well, I would hope so because I mean this is the second time around as you mentioned and to your point they probably have had that conversation um yeah devon white a lot of fun to watch that guy play he is a fucking missile he almost decapitated Derek car 11 tackles three sacks at tFL oh my god those are lt numbers he's doing it from the middle i mean him and levante david running down tosses it's it's football porn. Speed kills. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:14:36 Panther Saints, this is the last game I want to hit before you go man. The balliest thing for me was, by the way, Make, if you notice this, the Saints before the half, five seconds to go, they decide to basically go broke for a touchdown.
Starting point is 01:14:54 They don't run like a two second slant. It wasn't that type of thing. And I don't know the time rules, but for you to just say I'm not kicking the field goal we're going to try to get six here and it paid off because that's a four point play right
Starting point is 01:15:08 difference in the game ended up being three these guys are survivors I was thinking about this today I mean it starts with you know everything that happened in the city and you were down there around this time as a franchise Katrina you know
Starting point is 01:15:22 our guy Steve Gleason really started the whole party when it came to the last 15 years in New Orleans and the you know the football fever they've had, they survived Bounty Gate, there's the Minnesota Miracle, there's the PI, then there's losing to Kirk Cousins at home. They played without Breeze all last year. They overcame all the drama with Drew in the offseason. Now they're surviving without Mike Thomas. You add Emmanuel Sanders to the list. I mean, this team won't die as a franchise. They just keep getting back up off the
Starting point is 01:15:56 Matt, you know how hard it is when you lose a deep playoff run game in the fashion day. And to win without Drew, to now win without the weaponry and his arm seems like he's hanging on by his shred. Is this all Sean Payton or is there something special in that locker room? Like, what is it? You've been there. I mean, I think Sean Payton does a great job of bringing a group of guys together that fit well. But look, they're a group that's been together.
Starting point is 01:16:21 So I had said this with the whole COVID and no off-season. and no trending camp that the teams that are the most intact and probably have the best chance of having the success. And they're pretty much intact. And you have a different situation with Drew Breeze. Like I feel like he is all about winning. And he understands that he has very few chances left. Right.
Starting point is 01:16:47 Like bites of the apple left of playing in the NFL and trying to get to one more Super Bowl. not many quarterbacks that have played and have the stat lines and the careers of Drew Breeze would just be cool with Taysam Hill coming in and throwing bombs. I'm not sure he is.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Looking at him on the sideline, looking at the fucking tablet after some of these Taysam Hill fumbled snaps. Make it go away. If I'm Drew Breeze, make it go away. I feel like they have a good relationship for look, I don't think... I'm sure they do. I'm sure they do. I'm just busting. I don't think Tom would be giving
Starting point is 01:17:22 anyone hugs if they went in the game and scored a touchdown, you know? Yeah, but I also think like there are different places in their careers. Like Tom looks like you can play another five from an armed talent standpoint. I know, but what I'm saying is like Drew at times has been like, damn, dude, you're shot putting the ball to the second level. Like not to like, you know, not to the deep middle or outside the hash is like he's shot putting like Louisiana in general, the state of Louisiana football down there. It's part of the culture and the saints are.
Starting point is 01:17:52 like very much so like New Orleans is Saints Saints New Orleans you come down there you're embraced and the team you almost like form a bond and a friendship with each other because you're in a city that's it's got a cool niche feel to it in 2006 when I was drafted down there
Starting point is 01:18:14 I didn't want to go down there I there's way other like I didn't want to go down there it's the hurricane just destroyed it but it definitely has its it's it's I guess special place for the players and you really enjoy it I mean I really you feel like they're playing for something bigger than just
Starting point is 01:18:33 it's like almost like a college team exactly it's not like they're just playing for oh let's just go out here and win because they're playing for like the whole community which I feel like that can really bring out some of that heart and character in the end of a football game or just when you need it you can like see it yeah yeah And, you know, from a football standpoint, though, for them to continue to find new ways to win, never ceases to amaze me. And it also reinforces how important Alvin Camara is.
Starting point is 01:19:02 I mean, he, why is he so hard to bottle up? There's nobody else on the field at different points in the season. He's like he's got that, like, gift of balance and low center of gravity to where he kind of like bounces his legs bounce off people and he just keeps going. It's just crazy how nimble he is. And there's just nothing on the football field that he can't line up and do. I mean, literally a Swiss Army knife. And, you know, I, um... He's earning every penny of that.
Starting point is 01:19:31 He's earning every penny. They, they, literally, he should get some of everybody's track. And Zieg, I'm sorry. Did you say it? Well, today? No, I didn't see him today. Pass protection, he got ran over for a sack. Really?
Starting point is 01:19:45 Listen, the two polar opposites. I know Zieg can catch the ball out of the best. backfield, but to me, Zika is, you know, just hand him the ball. Camara, you can get him open a ton of different ways and get in the ball a ton of different ways. I, um, no, I'm sure there's some stat that totally counters that, but I feel like Camara's more versatile. Um, hey, listen, Mike Thomas, I heard the rumor, you heard the rumor maybe, can't stand Mike
Starting point is 01:20:10 is the nickname he has. I mean, if you believe anonymous source in this type of shit, but this, it's pretty, it's a pretty outrageous thing to make up. The rumor is they're talking about trading him. And then people are like, well, Sean Payton's Twitter said it's not true. I'm like, what is Sean Payton going to say? I mean, he's,
Starting point is 01:20:29 A, it's his player. B, if he is trying to trade him, he doesn't want that nickname getting out. I mean, it has, it kind of has like a little stench on it of guy gets paid. I mean, you've seen it, guys that they do everything right. They're very high performers, do great.
Starting point is 01:20:48 get paid, feel like they're entitled, go the other way, knock out their teammates. I don't know that story that well. But yeah, I mean, I know that that's the... If you punch somebody to where you're going to be a healthy, like if you're going to play in a game and you're Michael Thomas and you're that important for your team and you punch somebody and then they just don't play you for your punishment. It must have been a bad fight if that was a fight. You probably knocked them out or something.
Starting point is 01:21:12 No, it probably... And are we pretty sure that this happened? I thought, well, why wouldn't he be? play if he was a healthy scratch. Macon, do you think it's responsible that we're talking about this rumor? It is a rumor for the record. I think it probably had to be a pretty
Starting point is 01:21:29 circumstantially a bad fight, not even like... A bad enough fight to not start the highest paid receiver on your team who supposedly be the best... That's why I say it's not just knocking somebody out because I've seen plenty of football fights. Maybe it was like... It was like over something really ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:21:44 It was like Drew Brees or something. Oh, I don't know if it's true breeze. But here's the thing, too, like, I know Sean Payton. I know that sometimes Sean Peyton could be like, all right. Fuck me. Yep. All right. Fuck you.
Starting point is 01:21:58 Yeah. There you go. I'll show you. Yeah, he's got, he's got like Stan's dad wheelbarrow balls. He just, he, he doesn't care, dude. He does this with his lips. Yeah, the little purse lip thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:10 Mama's family. Mama's family. That was the lookalike when we did. So is Matt Rule, Matt Ruh and Teddy B make? What about him? Most likable coach QB duo in the league. Nah, you're on an island with this. Really?
Starting point is 01:22:23 Yeah, yeah. Matt, Matt Rule, he's got Baylor stink on him for me. Okay. Niko. Yeah. I'm shocked because when I hear Bill Parcells and a college coach,
Starting point is 01:22:36 first job, I'm thinking about a total hardo, like every time. 11 out of 10 times. Matt Rule gets to Carolina, the press conferences kind of sounded like maybe he was, you know, going to do the college coach thing. I hear he's a players coach.
Starting point is 01:22:51 He's got that team rolling. People thought they'd be competing for another, you know, lottery type draft pick, relatively speaking. I thought they'd be picking in the top five for sure. It looks like they're going to play their way out of it. Are they a good team? I like them. I think they're a good team.
Starting point is 01:23:09 They played well without their best offensive weapon. So sometimes when you lose a guy like, McCaffrey, it kind of forces you to spread the ball around a little bit, change up your offense, do some things differently that you might not anticipate doing going into the season. And now they'll be better for it when he comes back because then they'll be able to continue to do those things offensively because they know who they can count on or who's going to be their playmakers and then sprinkle in Christian McCaffrey and then you're going to be even a better offense. But I like Teddy. I think that he plays really well. I like his pocket presence.
Starting point is 01:23:47 like his accuracy. I mean, I like, yeah, I like the point guard, man, he's a point guard. Like,
Starting point is 01:23:52 you just have to know, like, he's, he's kind of the anti-Nick Foles. And they're both like point guard class kind of guys, like distribute the football. But Nick, the bears have gotten away with a lot of turnover-worthy plays.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Teddy's going to, for the most part, I feel like, just distribute the ball. He's never going to try to do too, too much. I mean, occasionally he will.
Starting point is 01:24:13 He's not a big risk-taker. They want a dink and dunk you to death. And that's what Chicago took away. He had a better day today. And if you're talking about the division, I could see them spoiling somebody's year later by an untimely L via our guy Matt Ruhl and Teddy Bridgewater. Consensus most likable duo in the NFL head coach and quarterback wise. So Rob Nankovic, appreciate you.
Starting point is 01:24:40 So the official take is New England's in trouble. And he doesn't like that. Baker Mayfield. We've made that abundantly clear. He's got the whiteboard again, which is scary. Niko, thanks, man. We'll talk this week or something, brother. See later. I'm out. I'm tired. See you later.
Starting point is 01:25:03 Thanks for your service tonight. All right. What do you say we do superlatives and get you to bed, buddy? It's late. It's late for Macon. It is late for Macon. God bless you. Thank you. I want everybody at home to have a moment of silence for Macon, staying up this late. Because right now, when you're listening, I'm driving in my motor vehicle around to various homes of all shapes and sizes trying to broker deals.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Oh, by the way, before we get into superlatives, we really have to talk about it. I'm so glad I remembered it. Carlos Dunlap. Can you pull that tweet up and we can discuss? us. Yeah. Carlos tweeted five hours ago, five o'clock p.m. Probably sold it by now, by the way. He has about a 6,000 square foot city view with huge balcony, four bedroom, four and a half bathroom, and one of the best school districts for sale. Do your market analysis and make me an offer serious inquiries only with proof of funds. Owners willing to sell furnished or unfurnished. That's the tweet. He did a really good job.
Starting point is 01:26:12 He's a really, really good dude. and a really bright cat. I could see him turning a profit in this situation. Why wouldn't you sell on Twitter? Cut the middleman out. Yeah. Now I don't advocate that. I think one day you guys are going to be like running backs.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Hey, they've, well, hey. School districts, very important. Yeah. I know everything. I know most everything I need to know. But I could look up school districts online, right? Yeah, you can look up some ratings. If you were looking here, I would send you to the Virginia Department of Education
Starting point is 01:26:50 and bypass those school ratings. So is he being unwise selling presumably without a real estate agent? Well, sure, I think so. But what he's done here in this tweet is good. And he might be guilty of puffing, puffery by saying that it's the best school district. He says in one of, maybe it is, maybe it isn't. If it isn't, it's not a crime. No.
Starting point is 01:27:16 But I mean how many can constitute the of? And he's telling you to do your market analysis. So maybe Ohio is a caveat mTOR state buyer beware. Also kind of a confrontational way to sell your house. Do your own fucking market analysis. But he's right. Yeah. And I want to see proof of funds if I'm him too.
Starting point is 01:27:34 Don't waste my time. Oh, absolutely. But you know he's getting some interesting people coming out of the woodwork. One thing I haven't seen here is a price, which is fairly important. That's why he wants you to make your offer. smart man doesn't want to negotiate against himself. What would you reckon he sells this for? Because they should have Vegas odds on this because, you know, like a lot of times people get their house docks, like their real estate sale docks. They never do it in Cincinnati because nobody
Starting point is 01:28:03 likes the pictures of the Cincinnati domiciles. Like it's always in like Marina del Rey or somewhere like that, you know? It is public record. Or Atlanta. What would you say his house that is 6,000 square feet is going to run the buyer north or south of 1-5. I'd say north knowing nothing of the market. Yeah? 6,000 feet. Yeah, but it's Cincinnati. North.
Starting point is 01:28:34 We'll see. Bold strategy, cotton. I can probably pull up the records while we're doing some. Yeah, we could do it. I'll start best plane ride. It's kind of related to what I was just talking about. Dude, does everybody know that Carlos Dunlap is the terrific defensive end
Starting point is 01:28:53 who's played a long time for the Cincinnati Bengals? Let me just make sure that. Right, we missed that. We did quote Carlos Dunlap, right? Yeah, we said his name. Did he get benched at the end of the game? Is that why you're selling it? Some shit like that.
Starting point is 01:29:05 You know, like it's hard, it's hard, you know, new coaches, getting older, big contracts, it's fucking hard. That's what she said. She said all that. Best playing ride. I'm gonna go Cleveland Browns. Okay, I got an inside scoop.
Starting point is 01:29:23 This is a scoop that's, I'm breaking the scoop all alone. You hear that Adam Schaefter, Ian Rappaport? I break scoops on my own. I don't need to like co-sign a scoop. There's no liens on my scoop. The Brown's plane ride was 45 minutes. That's per Miles Garrett. Make sure you cite me.
Starting point is 01:29:49 And that's a short flight. It's inside of Cleveland or inside of Ohio. And, you know, I wondered if they take the bus or not. I always preferred the bus over a plane. If it's under, say, four hours, I want a bus. Because think about the time it takes you at the airport, taxiing, wearing a suit on the plane. It's, like, really annoying.
Starting point is 01:30:09 Then you land, and if you land somewhere like Kansas City, it's an hour from the, you know, airport. Airport, where they land the planes. Yeah, I'm with you, but it's not. commercial, you're not going through security, you're not. But they make it really long anyways. They really make it a long process. They do give you Chick-fil-A, but I could take that on the bus.
Starting point is 01:30:31 Browns, that's a fun win. I don't know that it like, again, I'm not as down on Baker as Niko is, but I'm not real high on the Browns until they beat somebody good. Now, this wasn't beating somebody good, but it's a win. And coming off last week, they really needed it. Exciting game, too, as I mentioned, Tenenko, and the way they won it was big.
Starting point is 01:30:55 And that erases, hopefully, for a second to stink of maybe losing your best player on offense for possibly the year. I'm going to go Brown's best playing ride. What say you make? I'll go a longer one. I'll go Niners. Heading home after beating the Pats by 27. James Jesus goes back to Foxborough.
Starting point is 01:31:13 throws for 277, 25. and the Niners, their demise greatly exaggerated, it would appear four and three, three and oh on the road. Yeah, I'm going to stick to my guns. I'm still worried about them. I'm not going to take too much from them beating the pads. And the Rams, they've always matched up good against. So I felt kind of, we thought that line stunk for some reason,
Starting point is 01:31:36 and it was obviously, there was a reason for it. I could be dead wrong about them. I just, I think quarterback play catches up to him, and I think injuries catch up to him. I think you're more right than you are wrong, but we saw them at two and three. Oh, yeah. Rams and at Pat.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Totally. The season has turned for them. Which is why this is a good plane ride. It is a great plane ride. And they're going to get home at 11 p.m. probably. They gained some time. It's always gorgeous to get off the plane in the bay and breathe that bay air.
Starting point is 01:32:07 I love the Bay Air, dude. Bear. It's up there in the air power rankings. Worst plane ride. I'm going to go Dallas, obviously. What say you? Carolina Panthers I had good justification
Starting point is 01:32:20 but it's really late in the day and oh okay here we go they could have won that ball game but that's serious that's serious that was seriously my commentary yeah that's some good commentary
Starting point is 01:32:33 they certainly could have won that ball game but they're still in that honeymoon phase where even the close losses feel like we're building something man we just went down to the Superdome in front of oh wait nobody and almost beat the Saints Hey, viewing party.
Starting point is 01:32:49 I'm gonna go Wes Welker. How weird was that seeing him watching New England from the opposite sideline? Good thing he had the mask on because I play with him for a second. He's not real good at hiding his expressions. There were some pretty eerie moments in that game if you're a former patriot on any level
Starting point is 01:33:08 because it just seems so unrecognizable. And here he is on the opposite sideline coaching for the Niners. I thought that was an interesting look. I'll go Duke Tobin, who might or might not be making generally managerial type decisions in Sincere.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Joe Burrow is clearly the guy. He's clearly a hit. Unless he becomes the guy that got drafted before Justin Herbert. Yeah, but nah. Joe's great. No, I think he's great too.
Starting point is 01:33:43 And they're losing close games So draft pick's going to be high again this coming year. You're right about that. And they're losing them honest. Oh, man, they're losing them honest. Could it fool me? So I like being a GM who knows he hit on a guy and's going to have another chance to do it again next year.
Starting point is 01:34:01 Also, Brandon Bean, GM Buffalo kicks a picker, picks a kicker in the sixth round, who then goes out and knocks you six field goals to win a game you don't want to lose. Yeah, because if you lost, you lost to the other quarterback. That's right. What happened, Uncle Make. For me is James Connor and we touched on it with Niko. Fantasy disaster. He scores a touchdown early. It's called back. And then I get so angry that I have to turn it off. Then you text me something like. I texted you a list of all the things that he did. Or that happened to him. I go back just in time to see the ball go right through his head.
Starting point is 01:34:46 hands on the second would be TD. Well, there was that. There was also, he ends up just short of a pylon after he's already been one, the tackle, the poor tackle for Pittsburgh right off the bat who stepped in for a banner earlier in the season. He is the victim, self-imposed victim of two bad penalties on the first drive. Steelers scored despite him, but James Conner's not going to be real happy with him because that's akin to getting a sack and being wiped by some pointless penalty. he has one touchdown call back then he dives for the pylon
Starting point is 01:35:22 the next possession doesn't get it he's just short he's done a lot of the work and who got the was the Snell? Yep. Snell got the touchdown and then he loses 10 yards
Starting point is 01:35:34 on a big Ben like drunk moment Big Ben flailing around sees a guy and just fucking throws it to him and he's diagonally backwards for another seven-yard loss on top of a five-yard loss, and James Connor has to eat like 12 behind the line of scrimmage.
Starting point is 01:35:54 And I'm thinking about you, and I just feel terrible. Thank you. You, C-O-N-N-E-R. You haven't gotten that down yet for James Connor. I haven't. Have I? Auto-correct might be hurting you there. No, it's really not.
Starting point is 01:36:05 I just see him as an O-R guy. Yeah. So what's it like being a ghost? Ghost are dead. I'm very much alive. Hollow men Hollow men this week We got dual Kevin Bacon's
Starting point is 01:36:20 One of them I know personally He's bobbleheads right here I'm so proud of this dude He's gotten back up off the mat He's kicking ass He's kicking so much ass In Atlanta Todd Gurley is That he's just too good
Starting point is 01:36:33 For what they're trying to do there Todd you're in the wrong place When they're telling you not to score I know what football says I know what the manual says But fuck them They don't want you to score fuck them. They don't want you to be you. They don't want you to be great. You belong in the end zone.
Starting point is 01:36:50 You got in the end zone as well as anybody over your first few years in the NFL. Today was the most unfortunate touchdown of your entire football career. You know you're good though when you just can't avoid scoring touchdowns. I mean, so here's what happened. Todd was trying to go down to ice the game in one of these awkward situations. Oh yeah, we saw it in the Penn State Indiana game this weekend. but he gets in the end zone unfortunately and that makes it an eight point ball game Indiana comes back ties it overtime
Starting point is 01:37:25 Indiana wins in overtime sort of sort of you don't believe that the ball across the the only thing that annoys me is ever was like hey look it doesn't touch the pylon therefore it's not a touchdown I mean doesn't have to touch the pylon
Starting point is 01:37:42 to be a touchdown there's also an invisible plane goes up to heaven Yeah. So I would think, you know what? This is how awesome Todd is. One, he scores even when he's not supposed to because he's that good. Two, not even watching college football on Saturday. Definitely didn't watch Penn State. He was studying his fucking playbook. My dumb ass would have been watching Penn State. Todd didn't see it happen. Nobody talked about in the locker room. I think it's on the coaches that they didn't bring that up today. It's not on top. for being too good for the Atlanta Falcons. There's actually a funny picture. Kevin Clark posted this earlier. It's a bunch of lions standing there, looking at Todd Curley at the goal line with their hands up.
Starting point is 01:38:30 Like, no, he's in. Touchdown. I've never seen anything like that in my life. Hollow Men. Todd Gurley and the Penn State running back. Devin Ford. Dual Hollow Men. Frank Gore for the Love of the Game Award.
Starting point is 01:38:46 Frank Gore Love of the Game Award. sponsored by the St. Louis Rams. Sorry. And Straub's Supermarkets. St. Louis staple there. Thanks for the, that's a fake sponsorship. I don't think we'd get in trouble there. And Pepper.
Starting point is 01:39:00 And Pepper Lounge. Sponsored by the Pepper Lounge, Asterix. The Frank Gore Love of the Game Award sponsored by the St. Louis Rams. Matt Stafford. Dude, dimes at the end. I love Matt Stafford. No secret about it.
Starting point is 01:39:15 I will cape for Matt Stafford. Everybody thinks I cape for Carson Wentz. I fucking cape for Matt Stafford in real life. Real life cape. And I don't even need to cape that hard for him. All he's done has been in the top 10 conversation, basically his whole career, no matter who they put around him
Starting point is 01:39:33 and in what inopportune circumstances, he wakes up and finds himself in every year in Detroit. It's like a new, it's like Groundhog Day, every day. You've seen that movie, huh? Yes. Yeah. Ding, ding, ding. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:51 Congratulations. That sequence, by the way, also where Matt and Baker throw game winners within like 30 seconds of each other, first time in human history that Detroit and Cleveland were simultaneously happy. Like such a
Starting point is 01:40:07 mind fuck to me that those two cities were just, we're going nuts at the same time. And I just, I hope that Matt Stafford ends up in New England next year. Interesting. That would be fun.
Starting point is 01:40:25 Let's just say that. I'll give love of the game to Leighton Van der Rash. You don't normally say 24-year-olds get this award, but he leads the Cowboys, a bad team in tackles today. About a month after breaking his collarbone, year before he loses his season to a neck.
Starting point is 01:40:43 I mean, this dude just goes out there to play. To a neck. Guys got a neck. He's out with a neck. We played, Virginia played in Boise a few years back and picked up the local paper, had myself at a little diner at the bar there. It was a lovely little morning by myself. But Vandrash is one of those guys who came from a town of like seven. Yeah. That's like the whole town comes down to Boise.
Starting point is 01:41:07 Just football. Every weekend to watch late in play. Yeah. And he loves playing ball. He does love playing ball, man. to come back and run into this burning building. My goodness. You know, I wish this podcast was around when I played in St. Louis. It would have been nice to get some hardware of some sort.
Starting point is 01:41:26 You know, like, fuck, Love of the Game Award. That's worth a lot. Yep. That's like, I feel like, I feel like Lloyd Christmas handing somebody IOUs. You've seen Dumb and Dumber? I have. You see this? Two in a row.
Starting point is 01:41:39 Hey, Frank Gore Love of the Game Award? It's like a Pro Bowl. here you go. Congratulations. Here you go, Layton. We see you. Congratulations. We see you, but not in real time.
Starting point is 01:41:51 We watched the highlights and looked at the old stat sheet. Yeah. Congratulations, Leighton, except for the fact that you're a Dallas Cowboy. Hopefully, this makes you feel better. I hope that somebody tells you you got this award and you go from frowning to smiling. Like Ninko's flow chart there. Lastly, game ball. For me, it's Deontay Johnson.
Starting point is 01:42:17 I mean, this was the game of the undefeated and this was the guy that changed everything. I still think the Steelers win that game without him, but certainly they don't build that giant lead without the help of Deontay Johnson who was electric, one cut, he was upfield, he was a third down machine,
Starting point is 01:42:39 and God, the guy's fun to watch. They just come out of it. of the woodwork in Pittsburgh these wide outs. Same thing with running backs in San Francisco. I was going to go Jeff Wilson. I will audible to Tyler Lockett, 13 for 175 and three
Starting point is 01:42:53 touchdowns for the Seahawks. And I might need to audible once more because Arizona has the ball down three with 24 seconds to go near midfield. Golly, we're going to watch the rest of the game while we talk about Jeff Wilson. We're not talking about Jeff Wilson. We're talking about Tyler
Starting point is 01:43:09 Lockett now. Yeah, but that's a great rush and Kyler, of course, avoids it. You can't really call play-by-play. That is an FCC violation. Is it? It's not great. But we're not live, I guess. Hey, that last play was great.
Starting point is 01:43:26 Right. He stepped up in the pocket, avoided the rusher, and threw down the left sideline, and they're almost in field goal range here as of the last play. Beautiful. We're always going to be a play late. Let me just end the pod by talking about the guy that we were just talking about in San Francisco.
Starting point is 01:43:41 go. Okay, Jeff Wilson. Jeff Wilson. I fucking hated seeing that, dude. Hated that shit. Three touchdowns. I hadn't really heard of the guy, so I know that like he's grinding, right? Patrick hurt on his third, Tud. Somebody tackle Kenyon fucking Drake. Is that Drake? Did he fumble? No, they're running up to the line. They're running up to spike it. Oh my God. They're setting it up for overtime. Two, and Zane Gonzalez will come on to try to tie it with a 44 yarder. We're going to have to just. We're going to be here online.
Starting point is 01:44:17 I'll talk about overtime in the beginning of the pod, which is a mind fuck for those of you who already heard it. Gameball, Deontay Johnson. Anybody for you? Are you fucking kidding me, bro? You just said it for like seven minutes. I know, but then like this thing happened. I said Jeff Wilson.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Then you changed your mind. Then you said Tyler Lockett. You said Tyler Lockett. And I might have to say Kyler Murray if he pulls this off. But we never really got to the conclusion. that's all right the game's ongoing i said that when i was hedging your player of the game on a podcast all right let's see let's react let's react not in real time but three seconds after the snap back ball down kick is up zane gonzalez is true and we're headed to overtime in the
Starting point is 01:44:58 desert Tyler locket's breathing some fucking oxygen russell wilson squirted some water in his mouth and i know he's thirsty running around like a little robot all night short strides and shit and look at that kicker kicked the shit out of that ball all right y'all take care

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