Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Week 8 Instant Reactions with ESPN’s Stanford Steve. Tua’s debut. Ravens/Steelers.

Episode Date: November 2, 2020

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I know it's going to be a good show because I already talked to Stanford Steve. We had an instant reaction conversation type deal where we ran down the Sunday slate. I have also an instant reaction for you after that ball game. I watched tonight between the Cowboys and the Eagles. So I'll react to that game in a moment. But also I just want to let you know if you stick around after Stanford Steve, I'm going to be doing awards, but I'm going to be doing them by myself. And I'll tell you why.

and time for a mailbag question or two. Happy Monday, everybody. Welcome to the Green Light Pot. I'm your host, Chris Long. That was really an official, like, welcome, very clean. I feel like it's going to be a good show. I know it's going to be a good show because I already talked to Stanford, Steve.

We had an instant reaction conversation-type deal earlier this evening during the first half of the Eagles game where we ran down the Sunday slate I'll have that for you in a little bit. That was fun. It's great having Stanford Steve on. I do the gambling show with him as well, and you can find that on Spotify,

Apple Podcasts, wherever you consume your content. It's there too, if you're listening to this. Steve's great. I have also an instant reaction for you after that ball game. I watched tonight between the Cowboys and the Eagles. Eagles came out on top, puts them in rarefied air in the NFC East. Top the division, man.

They control their destiny. They could be the Seahawks of Beastquake fame and steal a playoff win, because they're going to host a playoff game. These guys are winning the division. It's inevitable. It's just the way 2020 is going. These guys right here that I watch on my TV screen tonight

are going to host a home playoff game. Maybe against like the goat, Tom Brady. Talk about high drama. Can you imagine? I'm just telling you. That's what's going to happen. And had they lost this game tonight,

I had promised myself in the third quarter. Not going to mention the word eagles or eagle singular the rest of the season. Like just wasn't going to, they could be playing in the Super Bowl. I'm a man of my word. I made a promise to myself if they lost that football game, no more talking about the Eagles.

So I'll react to that game in a moment, but also I just wanna let you know if you stick around after Stanford Steve, I'm gonna be doing awards, but I'm gonna be doing them by myself. And I'll tell you why. My co-host, Making Gunner had an issue. And time for a mailbag question or two.

So yeah, that football game. I'm not gonna really like break this thing down in depth. I had a whole, you know, Sunday slate to get through. Usually I would and I apologize, if you feel cheated, usually I would painstakingly go back through the game after recording our Sunday night pod that I'm recording with the TV on in the other room and I can kind of see what's happening, but I'm not paying attention. So I go back afterwards and watch the game on Rewan and then do the breakdown, put it on the pod. I'm not going to do that tonight. I'm going to let you

know when I'm cheating you, the listener. I'm not doing my job tonight, okay? In fact, I was so stressed out I took like two, three candies after I talked to Stanford Steve in about the third quarter. It's been a stressful day. I'll tell you all about it. And hey, a win's a win. A win is a win. Eagles, undefeated in prime time, right? I would flex all the fucking games Sunday 8.20 p.m. I don't know if anybody else has picked up on this. I don't know if Elias stats or like, ESPN stats and info or producers around the NFL are feeding this to their handsomely paid talent. Hey, Eagles are 3 in prime time.

Make sure you get that out during the pregame show. I probably just fed that pipeline, but the Eagles are undefeated in prime time. I'm gonna check the schedule again because I've found that stat myself. I'm pretty sure it's true. Cowboy Reed, can you check that for me? Eagles undefeated in prime time.

time 2020 flex all the games i was nervous man wow i was nervous about my friends obviously i cared a great deal about what was going on in the football field there they're real careers and lives at you know being altered out there uh with the the football that's going on in the ns east but i was nervous because uh listen i got a mailbag question today and it said quote I'm going to lose $100 on these guys, LMAO. That's not a mail-back question, Ben. All right. Ben, I was more nervous.

More nervous. I can guarantee you. It's all relative, but I can guarantee you I was really fucking nervous about this game. I was so nervous because I had the Eagles on the money line. Yeah, I did that. So I needed that win. But some of you guys were nervous in the second half. Some of you guys took the more conventional route

and just took the birds, you know, giving 10 or 11 points or whatever you got it at. Maybe you got it at like nine. Some of you guys were nervous. I was watching people sweat it. I was in the driver's seat when T.J. Edwards came in clean and knocked the ball out of Danucci's hands and on the ground. The greatest non-fumble recovery in history of football has to be Vinnie Curry, not being able to secure that football. Thank you, Vinnie, because that allowed a buddy of mine, another buddy of mine, just looking out, Rodney McLeod, picking the ball up, heads up, play by him, taking it like 70 yards for a touchdown, and at that point I exhaled, because I knew. But if I learned anything this weekend and I had Rutgers Plus 13, thought I had the backdoor cover secured, we all know what happened next.

The most exhilarating play I've ever seen turned into a reversal and I was crushed. This was karma that they didn't review this play. I don't know if Vinny had it or not. Had they reversed it, I would have been probably sweating another few minutes. But that was huge, okay? Eagles have descended into the social media team posting on Twitter with periods at the end of their. I literally had this in my notes. Eagles social media will have a period in their post game tweet.

When a team stops using cool teenager lingo and like doing little emojis and shit, like it's not going well. Or it's, it wasn't a great game or maybe it was a win you shouldn't be celebrating about. Sure enough, I logged on, logged on, I logged on. There was a period. It was like birds over boys, period.

No, like just perfectly, you know, all the capitalization was right. The grammar was correct. Birds over boys. They even had a little apostrophe before boys, which I didn't even know you had to do. But it signifies there was no cow before the boys. They literally like, let's make sure our grammar's right before this tweet. I mean, that was kind of a shitty game. So funny, because the team that used to do it, like, that was actually good was the Patriots.

I don't know if they're still doing it. But I always noticed their social media had such like a cool brand. Like we don't get excited about anything. We're New England. And it was perfect, right? It was like, we just, we do our job, period. Like touchdown, period, Brady, period. No, they wouldn't do touchdown period, Brady, period.

It wouldn't be, they would be so, not dramatic at all, just matter of fact, too cool. Touchdown Brady, period. Pats win. Like Super Bowl, Pat's win, period. I don't know what they're doing now. I think once Tom left they had to like spice it up a little bit but the Eagles went there tonight

and I saw bits and pieces I didn't see the whole thing I just want to say this BG's sack Dallas was already up 3-0 and it felt like it was about to get ugly like early I could not believe it with what I just told you earlier I'm sitting there and I'm watching and I'm just freaking out

Dallas is in the low red and BG comes up with a big play and you can always see it when BG is going to make a big play. It's like there's just like this moment and he's just got a knack for finding the right moment and you're like this is the kind of moment BG is going to make a play. And he did and that was a huge play. That team goes down 10-0,

game might be over. Just where the Eagles are right now and how desperate Dallas is for a win. like any shred of like positivity Dallas got any shred of like hey it's it's our time to you know enjoy the chips being up for once stacked in our favor they they would have pounced on it I really believe that and the Eagles got a big break when when Brandon Graham forced that fumble huge play and with that I think he's up there in the league lead in sacks and he's a great run player as well he's never had double digits. So it appears to me that this is the year. And I think that's awesome. I remember as a

player being like that was a huge deal. He's had to wait a long time and he's been consistent. He's such a great all-around player. He was right on the edge of double digits like I think it was Super Bowl year. Nine and a half I think. I think he had. And you know, he hadn't been to a pro bowl. So I think this is the year and I think he deserves it. I think he's deserved it in the past. Pro bowl, again, it's funny because, you know, maybe we make too much of a big deal about it. So I don't, I don't care to give it the satisfaction of celebrating BG getting in. But it is something that stays next to your name. Once you make that one, you know, they call you a pro bowler. So that's a big deal and I'm excited for BG. He deserves to have that title, no matter what you think about the game.

Um, Carson, I'm not gonna talk about it tonight. Uh, I'm, you know, a win's a win, made a couple nice throws. Some really just like, dude, come on man. I'll talk about it Wednesday on the pod. How about that? I promise you, I'll look at it. Just I can't be making, you know, I can't be making, uh, I can't be dissecting his play when I had one eye on the game and doing the pod at the same time.

Cause my quotes could end up in fucking WIP all. all, you know, they got my quotes all like in a camel clutch, man, just all twisted up. I don't need that. I don't need that energy in my, you know, on my Twitter feed tomorrow. So I'll talk about Carson on Wednesday when I'm sure of everything I'm saying about his play. But it didn't look good. WIP's going to be like, and I got friends there. But WIP is going to be like, how do we connect?

It didn't look good to the beginning of the fucking thing. and then we'll just, I'm not saying they're the only people that do it. It's just that's who I'm afraid will do it. Okay, guys. Talk about it Wednesday. A couple shout-out. Shout-out to D.K. Metcalfe, another alien play. I mean, he caught a crossing route that was like, okay, they're going to get the first down to, oh, my gosh, he's going to get to the sideline.

Man, he's going to get out of bounds at the 40. Oh, my gosh, he tiptoed. and he's tiptoeing at a full sprint and nobody's gonna catch him. We're gonna start getting bored with D.K. Metcalf plays, which is a shame. He should hold them.

You know, like Aaron Donald, sometimes I think he does it too much. The things that he does every Sunday, D.K. Metcalf is gonna start doing things that were just gonna be like, huh, I've seen that shit before. And then the coolest thing he did was he knocked a DB down,

Like, I mean, he catches a slant, or he's supposed to catch a slant, and Russ puts it right between him and the DB. And usually, you know, when a quarterback throws a buddy pass, which is like, hey, look out, buddy. It's when you get, like, your wide receiver hurt. The wide receiver has to be worried. He fucking trucked the DB and just stood over him. I was like, did you just play defense?

You're awesome. The fucking guy played defense. And he, like, it wasn't like, he quit on the route. It was just like, nobody's gonna catch this ball, somebody's gonna get knocked down. Not gonna be me.

I'm like 6-7, 225 or something. How much does that fucking guy weigh? Big guy. Shout out to Justin Herbert. I was telling Macon before. And I said this in a tweet today. I feel like a football fan when I watched the guy.

Now I know how being a football fan is. Like I've never, and I'm not being pretentious or anything like that. When I was a kid, I was around the game. My dad played. You know, I met cool people and players, and I was certainly a big Carolina Panthers fan, but not since I went to, like, college.

Have I been a football fan? I've been a football player. And, you know, I get it now. Like, when people are like, hey, who's your favorite player? I really have to rack my brain to give an answer, and I feel like kind of fake when I give one, because I never had like maybe one favorite player. I can tell you who my favorite, you know,

different position player would be. If I was a little kid right now, I would have a Justin Herbert poster on my wall. Fucking guy's awesome. I mean, he really, I never cared about quarterback. I never cared for quarterback play. I never like wowed me maybe because I was obsessed with my own job. And in two years of football,

I'll have some moments with, you know, watching Aaron Rogers, watching Russell Wilson, you know, Tom Brady will have his moments. moments. No, fuck. The occasional Carson moment. Justin Herbert is fun, fun, fun to watch, man.

So I feel like a football fan when I watch Chargers games and I was joking earlier, I'm ducking as I say this. If I ever need a side team, I mean, I feel like I really dove into the Eagles thing, 100% here. I bleed green, all that stuff. I got a side team in basketball. Chargers might be the side team. Love those uniforms. Justin Herbert has a cannon, dude. The man.

Without further ado, let's get to Stanford Steve. Stick around for the awards and a quick mailbag afterwards. Sunday night, green light hotline, friend of the program. I would say it doesn't get any better than this, but it's been a long day. It is 9.08 p.m.

I am sweating through. a birds Cowboys ball game Steve it was a rough day man 425 slate really got me that's Sunday scaries it happens

it could get the best of them I actually did all right today I just I saw obviously the Ravens I did like them that that got shoved up you know what but I just thought nobody was back in the Bears and I thought they would play well

They played well enough to cover. I'll take it. But a lot. I think I learned a couple things about the league as a whole today, though. There were some things that really stuck out to me. It was that kind of day. It really was like, okay, like some of the fakeness is over. Some of the things that are fraudulent are over.

And also with the weather, and we'll get to like this marker during the season and what that means, generally for good teams going forward, bad teams going forward. But the weather tested some teams, wet balls, win, that sort of thing. I was my soul is being tested right now because I had the Chargers money line 24 to 3 turned into a like you know when you check it off nothing you could say after this is going to make it's going to be worse than that oh no no no no no no I mean that was bad and then the Rutgers game that's what started this whole thing off and you guys didn't do

your show this weekend uh no we're on tonight we're actually just discussing what we're going to do It's really hard to do. You know, there were so many bad beats yesterday that real estate is really hard. We have so many sponsored, you know, elements on the Monday night show. So it's how are we going to treat things is most important. And we got to figure out what we're going to do with the Ruckers play. Because as someone that didn't see it live and, you know, I was trying to trick-or-treat with the kids. And I check my phone.

and it's just going haywire. And I literally had one of those thoughts in my mind, like, oh, my God, somebody passed away or something like that. And it was like, no, Rutgers, Rutgers, Rutgers, Rutgers, Rutgers, Rutgers. So then I get done. I'm like, all right, I got to, you know, we're trying to get the kids back in the car. You know, we went to a neighborhood or whatever. And I checked the score.

I'm like, they lost by 16. Why is everybody going crazy? So I texted my man to Bear, and he was obviously Ottubi. He's like you'll see it. Just go on Twitter. The play is incredible. And I'll tell you what, watch it to play. I didn't see it in a legal forward pass.

You better bet your ass I didn't see an illegal forward pass. Yeah, I was plus, I had Rutgers plus 13, you know, and I don't know if you call it the right side or the wrong side. It's impossible to say. But it was like the confluence of all my biggest pet peeves. One of them, of course, like thinking you have a backdoor cover and you stay watching the game too long. And you're not even inherently entertained by the game. and then the second being I hate more than anything

in football, all levels, when people do not continually lateral to football in those situations. Don't get tackled. So this was like the thing I've been waiting for for 35 years to show everybody why you keep pitching the ball like that fat

lineman that just threw the ball backwards over just fucking throw it dude. Just throw it. And I'm proved right and I'm running around the house and my wife's looking at me like, you like Rutgers, huh? And the kids are getting dressed for Halloween

and they're like, is something wrong? And then next thing you know, I'm sitting with my head in my hands. So that was the start of my battery. So you were watching it live. How long did the review take? As long as it took me to tweet six times effectively like six victory laps. You know, this is why this is the greatest play I've ever seen.

is immaculate reception. It's James Harrison's touchdown in the Super Bowl, and it's the Rutgers play. They're obviously different stakes and everything, but, you know, like this would have been nice. So last week, we had a bad beat with rice football, and this week we took one with Rutgers football. But mine was worse than yours because I was too chicken shit

to take them giving like three and a half points or whatever was. I was like, well, I'll probably beat two chicken shit anyways, and I'll buy the half point. I might as well just take them on the money line. Money line. So, so. You don't even flinch. I love it.

Love it. Yeah, I don't flitch. It's a problem. Three and a half out. I'll just go money line. Just fuck it. Just fire, dude. And as the ball hit every corner of that upright, I had like, this was karma for me enjoying double doink in person on the field.

Yeah. You know, like I was there for that one on the field with my arms raised in jubilation. And then I was sitting in my home office, afraid to tell my. wife would just happen because she was going to think I was a degenerate. Luckily, she doesn't listen to the pod. Wife alert. Wife alert. Anyways, I did get Seattle, Pittsburgh, UVA had a good weekend.

And hey, this joint bank account thing we're doing on the Greenlight Gambling show has been good. How about that this week? We're a J.B. Smooth Jets pick away from hitting two of these fucking things in the last month. Yeah. Yeah. McConaughey almost nailed it exactly. I know. He almost had the score. Matthew McConaughey.

This is important. You do not call him Matt. No. I learned that the hard way, okay? He was, we're going to have the interview out this Wednesday for people listening. He was fucking amazing. And Stanford Steve told me he's the best guy in the world. He's incredible, man.

And he was an incredible interview. It's like you walk away and you're like, damn, that was an amazing interview and I didn't even have to do good. There's nobody like that guy. guy. Nobody. Because he plays it off like he's so nonchalant, but like I watched the clip of when you you asked him for the pick and he he had it already say, Texas, we play well in big games, we're going to Stillwater, Texas 35, 31. Hey, Cowboy Reed, did we warn Matthew McConaughey about him needing to give a pick?

Or did he make that off the top of the dome? Top of the dome, he made that pick. And he had this whole, I asked him to compliment Oklahoma because I do this thing where I asked people to compliment things they hate. And he had it in his back pocket, like improv. Mm-hmm. I mean, the guy's unbelievable. His name is Matthew guys, okay?

If you ever... God damn, there was a chapter in the book about it. I read that. All right, put it in Matthew. Just turn a page. It's just I read the fucking book. I don't read books as the first book. I've read front to back since maybe goosebumps.

And I get on and I call him Matt off the top. Like, hey, thanks for stopping by, Matt. He's like, the chapter in the book, man, remember? I don't, you know, like he was cool about it, but I felt small. Yeah, so the big game this Sunday was Pittsburgh, Baltimore. And it really was a sloppy game, too. It wasn't a quality football game. No, but I thought it was entertaining as hell.

It's my favorite rivalry in the sport, and it just always lives up. I didn't write down the stat, but something stupid about the amount of one-score games, these two teams play. It's awesome. Both, I think, you could see it I mean even in a handshake with with Tomlin and Harbaugh they despise each other but they respect the hell out of each other and that's what makes it so awesome exactly we were talking about this I mean 25 appearances or whatever makes them I mean the longest

relationship between two interdivisional coaches and quite a while uh maybe most ever I'm probably fucking up the stat full disclosure here but needless to say a lot has to go right for two franchises in the same division to continue to butt heads with the two guys on the sideline. The only other thing I could think of is maybe Carol and Harbaugh, if Harbaugh never left, and he maybe should have never left.

Because he was a sensational football coach, but that's the closest thing we would have had the past 10, 15 years. Yeah, I mean, I just think of a longevity factor. You know, NFC East, you know, Andy was there for a while. You know,

it's, it's, you're not, there's no consistency. Like you said, a lot of things got to go right for two teams in the same division to have that, you know, that much stuff at stake when they play every time. And I would say, hey, listen, Tomlin's lucky he, you know, he snagged Big Ben early on. But like, even that first Super Bowl that Ben won, Ben didn't play well. So it wasn't like he had some Justin Herbert kid off the bat. Like, this is something where I think we've slowly realized, Mike.

Tomlin's greatness over a long period of time when you see how people act when they leave Pittsburgh and the things he's had to keep on. It's unbelievable. But I thought this was Baltimore's big chance, right? I really did. I thought this is their chance, you know, to take a lead in the division, right, to make a statement at least. And they are on their way to, and it could still happen, winning three AFC North titles in a row that would be historic. That's the parody in that division is great.

That would have been a huge win for them because listen in the last calendar year and a half, they've gotten beat by Kansas City twice. Now they haven't beaten Big Ben. Strangely enough, this is the first time Lamar and Big Ben have faced off. They lost to Tennessee in the playoffs. And New England's not really a win you can brag about

anymore because they're not relevant in the AFC power struggle. So they've kind of gone down the line of AFC elites and laid an egg every time. And so I thought this was a big chance to get that whole stigma off their back and they couldn't do it.

No, and it starts at the top. Lamar could not have been worse today. We talked about the spot. We talked to opportunity. Everybody wants to see them do it. I think, you know, from a public perception, I think people really like Lamar. They want to see him do well.

We know, you know, we're going to hear about the comeback stat and how he doesn't, you know, have any comebacks now. But this is, this is two games. He's played against the Steelers because last year was week 17. He sat two games, Chris, seven turnovers. Now, I know, we know we were in a big sample size thing, you know, a lot. But now for the, in the what have you done for me lately since that the NFL is? And, you know, what Lamar's done against the Steelers?

It is not good. Absolutely brutal injury to the tackle Stanley. Thank God he got that checked earlier this week. Yeah. But something, something's just missing on that Ravens offense, man. I just can't, I don't know. I was saying about Hollywood, you know, the deep threat. I thought Sneed was incredible for them today.

Yeah, a lot of yak, man. Five for 103, went up for, you know, got decked a couple times. But I don't, we know, I, you know, I talked about how Pittsburgh isn't afraid of Baltimore. But man, how about those guys just sitting on that QB draw? Like they were just jonesing to come up. They saw that thing coming a mile away. And then even on the last throw to Sneed, if you look at the end zone slow-mo and you go up and see,

it's where Harba wanted to hit on the hit to the head on Minka. Mika's ass is his highest Sneed's head. Yeah. That's how high he is in the air. It's incredible. Go back and look at that view. an incredible break on the ball. The guy's been incredible since he's come to Pittsburgh.

I loved him at Alabama. I was just watching him whenever I could go in person. So, I mean, hats off. I like Baltimore. I gave out Baltimore on your show. I love the spot for Baltimore. That was the biggest part. Pittsburgh coming off a crazy gaming in Tennessee.

Baltimore coming off a buy at home, whatever you want. Baltimore had every advantage. And they got a hand to them. This was it, right? This was their big chance. They'll have another one, obviously. I think this could be a trilogy, okay? But this was a chance for them to get

this monkey off their back. And, you know, as you said, coming off a buy, I talked about starting fast, and we'll get to Pittsburgh not starting fast in a second, but 24-7 last two weeks, Pittsburgh, right, coming to this game. So they've been starting fast. I thought if they don't start fast, they're not winning this game. Because Baltimore, as you mentioned, front runners,

and coming off a buy. But you can also sleepwalk coming off a buy. Here are the, Lamar, you hit it on the head. Lamar, I don't think the Steelers won this game as much as Lamar lost it. but when you have an opportunity, good team sees it. And Lamar made mistakes all day. You know, they got a million yards on the ground.

You got to win that game. Like, you don't run for that many yards and lose games. Here's his mistakes. The Spillane pick six. How about that dude? Yeah, dude, he stepped up. Tennessee play. He got a little behind.

He brings the wood. He brings the wood, man. He's awesome. He's awesome. And he's built for that type of stuff. What I worried about was him in coverage today. He got a little behind Sneed on an extended play, but Lamar's bat, he's baking a cake back there.

You got the Spillane's pick six right off the bat. I'm like literally settling in my chair because I have Pittsburgh. I'm saying, oh, here we go. We got Lamar fumbling it to nobody. On the sideline, he's throwing the ball in the air wildly while Watts draped all over him on a third down. Like easily could have been a pick. That's a Wens play right now.

And I'm being real. Like, that's the type of thing I'm watching the Eagles game right now. they're up seven six as we speak. Wentz had a god-awful player in the game. He's got won a game. And Lamar, I'm like, that's not even what you do, dude. Hayden nearly picked him off because he was behind a receiver. You had the Heismith pick, which was so bad.

I think Lamar was laughing like, God damn, dude, I got to pick it up. And he lost the two fumbles. He got hit a lot, sack four times. He got crushed at the one by Minka, crushed at the one by Minka. So it was a physical game, but even when it was right, firm it wasn't easy. There was a third and 14. He's behind a guy. I know they got a big chunk out of that play, but he probably hits his head on the goalposts if we're being honest if it's in front of him. You know, yeah. And then on the Hollywood play in the corner that he really missed him

there too. Next play, he finds him for a touchdown. But that was, it just wasn't his day. And I do think it would be fair to say, hey, listen, it's one fucking day. Give this kid a break. And listen, if you're unfair to Lamar, you're unfair to Lamar, but it is not unfair. to worry about him against the best competition in his conference. When it's a pattern, you mentioned the Steelers thing, five interception, nine sacks, 55 passes. That's his combined stat line against the Steelers, and they're not just division foes, they're foes in the playoffs.

25% bad play rate versus Pittsburgh, 7% versus the rest of the NFL. Yeah, that's rough. He's got to get better. But the good news was, I mean, they were in the ball up their ass. That's one thing, Chris. That drive, the drive that ended with the QB draw, they ran Oki Option down the field. Dude.

They just, you know, let the, you know, we'll read the first guy. You know, J.K. stay with me. And I mean, he pitched J.K. Dobbins, too, and some of the runs he has on the sideline balancing. His balance is incredible. But, yeah, no, they, I mean, I wanted to see what they did. And they literally wrote, you know, ran Oki Option all the way down the field. I couldn't believe it.

Dude, you look at two of their best drives, okay, including the one that they ended up down there and didn't get it on fourth down, on the fumble, but really he was stopped short. Great play by 96, by the way. Somebody you hadn't heard of steps up and makes plays on the goal line the last two weeks, although Spillane's got negated by the Minka penalty. A great drive, okay? I think they ran the ball. They got the ball back with seven minutes ago, and ideally you're thinking down 28, 24. maybe Pittsburgh doesn't get it back.

They do a great job. They run 10 plays for 69 yards. Guess how many passes, Steve? Fucking zero, dude. The one passing play was the third and five that turned into a fourth and three. So they were all runs. And then their other really good drive

was on the Gus Edwards touchdown early in the game. They do not pass the ball. The first half, the Gus Edwards touchdown, on eight runs, one pass, 69 yards. But that's the problem. You know, that's what you got to do to beat the Steelers. You know, like, it's just going to be hard to sustain that. And again, Pittsburgh, they struggled early

because they couldn't get out of the shadow of their own goal line. It felt like they were getting the life choked out of them for the whole first half, really. You mentioned the pick six to start the game. Baltimore comes right back answers, comes back, has the lead. You know, halftime. that whole thing. And then the Steelers, it's just it's almost a wait and see approach

with Ben man. Like he's just, I mean at first half it just feels like they're running place to see what the other team will do. They got them down on the goal line. I know everybody loves Romo doing his thing. You know, but like yeah, we saw Claypool run the jet sweep. We got it. All right. Steelers are not going to play this poor offensively

next time. I really don't think so. Time and possession was terrible in the first half. Brutal conditions too, by the way. Yeah. We'll get to the Bill's game a second. I mean, conditions seem to favor one team a lot. Like, traditionally, this was a Ravens, this was

the Ravens Day, you know, and they just missed it. I mean, Pittsburgh was lucky early on for it not to get worse. Bud Dupree made a great play. I also want to shout out Juju Smith-Schuster. My man had two really big chunk plays. We talked about them being backed up.

Huge chunk plays. Really, in the second half, with all that momentum on Baltimore side, really needed that one chunk and they got it from Juju. It didn't end up in a touchdown or a field goal because I think there was a penalty and then a Rathosberger sack and they had to punt. But it flipped a field for him. He also had a big chunk down to the one on a Connor touchdown. The guy's not racking up the yards this year, but he's very important. So plenty of weapons in Pittsburgh. They'll be better. That was a

huge, huge win. New England Buffalo. Here's the thing. Bill used to always say Halloween is when the season starts, right? That is bad news for them, okay? Like, this is just, it's not what you wanted to see today. This was the day, even if you don't win the rest of the year, it's kind of like Virginia, Virginia Tech. Like, everything that happens most of the year, I just want to beat the rival.

I think Bill really prides himself on rubbing the Bill's face in dog shit. Yeah. Like stepbrothers. Because he has stuff for so long. He really prides himself in that To be honest The team they're playing next week the Jets He's gonna do whatever it takes to beat those motherfuckers

The dolphins he doesn't hate He just kind of like wants to beat him But I can't figure out whether to say congratulations To the bills for getting the monkey off their back Or being like it was that fucking hard To beat these guys That's my point for this game Chris first of all

Fundamentals I know people want to talk about them Cam's got the ball in the wrong hand Yeah He's got the ball in the right arm. He's going on the left. That's day one stuff and Pop Warner. All right. Other thing is, neither of these teams.

I know what, New England's going to be what, two and five now? Yeah, they're two and five. I know Buffalo's now six and two. Game lead over to the Dolphins will get to my dolphins in a second. Nothing about the Buffalo bill scares me. No. Nothing. Nothing.

You know, you and I have talked about a bunch on the Thursday, Friday pods. I think the Buffalo defense has been the most disciplined. unit in the league this year when you go back and forth, you know, look at all the things and counting in expectations and, you know, taking that next step and, you know, all those kinds of things. I think they're the most disappointing group to me. Dude, I couldn't agree with you more. I've said, and now it doesn't ring so true because Josh Allen's come back down to earth a little bit. You know, I, he's got to do some improving. You know what I mean? Like, anybody can have a good month. I'm not saying that I don't believe in him.

I think he's special and I think he's going to have a special career. But it's not enough to have the first month of the year go well. Yeah. And to me, it's just decision-making. I just wanted to be smarter with the football and play smarter football in a sense where now you're six and two ahead of the division. There should be nothing that gets in the way. If you guys play well and you don't cost yourself,

you guys are going to have a nice spot and look in this playoffs. But I can't say that because I don't trust them. Except you said nothing getting their way, and you just acknowledged it. Except themselves. Except the defense. I mean, literally, I'd have said, if you'd have told me they'd be this much better offensively, even if you just, you included the last three weeks and you showed me their total points the first seven, eight weeks this season, don't show me what they did on defense.

I said, that team's going to Super Bowl. Because McDermott has built a really honest program, and they play complimentary football. They don't get beat deep. That's been their reputation. They make you earn everything. They're hard-nosed. man, they are not good on defense. If Cam doesn't fumble that football,

they're losing the game, dude. They're losing the fucking game. By the way, I had Bill's money line, and I had bills in a teaser, and I'm just like, Cam's fumble made my, so I hate seeing that happen to Cam, because he was kind of heroic

in a really ugly way all game. I mean, this guy has given his body up. You know, the humility he showed lately has been amazing. It's what you should. I mean, the way you should react when things aren't going well. So I was torn because I hated seeing Cam fumble that football for him personally, but it was good for my, my, my, uh, my pockets. He got stripped by a guy with a fucking long snapping number. There are long snappers on the field. I'm not saying this guy's

a long snapper. I had a really bad number early in my career for some reason. Yeah, you did. I texted you when I saw it last week. Yeah, but I kind of made it look okay. It was just, I didn't make it look as cool as OC. It's just OC made 72 look really cool. Yeah. But 61, shout out to Zimmer. Don't, don't, don't know you. I'm not being disrespectful. You made a play that if this thing comes down to it, this could be a home playoff game. So I am not disrespecting this cat. I'm just saying, you deserve, you know,

Virginia that make you earn the numbers, you deserve a new number. And there was a number 74 out there. I mean, number 61 exercised the demons for the city of Buffalo this century. When your hero is number 61 defensively, we got to fix this. But Cam, you know, quote,

I'm jeopardizing this team's success because of my lackluster performance. Coach, trust me with the ball in my hand, et cetera. I said this last Wednesday on the pod. All I heard was, wait, wait till things go wrong in New England. You'll see the real Cam come out. He's laughing, he's having fun getting along with Bill. Wait, the first time he has been, well, he's had four by my count,

maybe five at this point, and he's been nothing but class. So I'm hoping he salvages that because I respect him as a football player, man. and the guy is not, he was no quitting him, and whatever it took today he was willing to do it physically. They moved the ball better to start the game.

Josh did a great job. I just can't stand at Josh where's a visor when it's freezing out. Drives me crazy. Yeah, I never really talked to him about that. I should have. It's a terrible. It's a terrible look.

He did it in, in Denver and in St. Louis, too. He does it all the time. It's a terrible look. We've got to talk to him about that, but probably talk to him about it after the season because I want to let things chill for a little bit. I'm pretty sure he's going to need a break.

The third downs were the problem. I mean, like, and this is what said, everything that need to be said. I mean, I know Bill said Cam's our quarterback after the game, but I don't think he trusts him. It's obvious. I think he respects him, but he doesn't trust him. Right off the bat, draw on third and 12.

Like, first, third and 12. Okay. Third and eight, QB, pulling. in the red zone. Third and one with 12 seconds to go in the half and they don't take one shot at the end zone. And the O line has not been playing bad. So it wasn't a worry there.

It's just we don't have any weapons and the quarterback right now is really struggling. So I don't know what they do going forward. What do you think? It sounds a lot like the Ravens approach. If you go away, I mean, if you blind, look at those plays, I saw a couple of those Ravens, third and eight, QB draws, third and 12.

Let's just see what we can get here. I don't know. Like, everybody's talking about the trade deadline. We've never, I mean, think about it, Chris. I bet you the majority of your listeners, I mean, you're big with the young crowd now. They've never seen a bad Patriots team. No. You know, like they've never seen one.

And I've grown up in Connecticut, I did plenty of years. I remember, I remember the old Foxborough Stadium. I remember Steve Grogan quarterback and what a goddamn neck brace on. Yeah. You know, I remember those days when they had the real good uniforms. Maybe they need to go back to Pat the Patriot uniform. I hate it. Because they have the worst uniform in pro sports.

They're terrible. Thank you. Damashek likes them or Macon likes them. Like, I've ever... You cannot have a silver helmet, a white jersey, and navy blue pants. It's bad, dude. They should have gone back to Pat Patriot. I even liked, I liked the Tom Brady's.

I liked the Flying Elvis's. I really thought, especially... Yeah, they're not. At least, yeah, I just think that when you have a silver helmet, you wear silver pants. You don't wear navy blue. That's terrible. By the way, you remember all those things you mentioned

at the old stadium over there. I think I lived right where the old stadium used to be and it's demolished now, but were you there when, did you see Matt Mellon punch a guy, punch a coach? Or punch the owner's kid because the owner's kid was talking shit to my dad.

The owner's kid was probably lucky my dad didn't punch him. I would have heard a lot more, I think. Nothing against Matt Millon. I mean, I'm sure Matt Milled. Yeah, but Matt Mellon, how many pounds of tape did he have on his hands when he played. I'm just saying. Remember that? Yeah, he did. He did. He had the

Oh my God. Those guys used to must go through not rolls, boxes of tape on their hands. Abnoxious. They probably started charging him for free shit from the training room. You know what I mean? But like even like the bills felt like I felt like they had it in control but I guess they never did because when they tied it at 14 you could just feel the Bill's assholes getting tight and then the onside kick which I didn't love. I don't know about you. I thought just kick it off, play it on. But like I said, Bill, Jets week, it's going to be different.

Like, he's going to do whatever it takes to beat the Jets. So if you think instead of him, you know, Cam, Hoyer, if you bring somebody off off the street, like, they're going to do. You know what? I'm really bummed that Jules got hurt because I want to see old Jules back there run the option like college. That's what I want to say. We might see Jules running the option whenever he comes back.

I mean, because I don't know what the fuck. Is he on short I-R? No, I think you got placed on the long. Oh, he's on the IR-I-R-I-R. That sucks, man. You know what? That's probably his last, is probably his last, yeah, game in New England.

Was that awful San Francisco game? That's a guy that doesn't deserve that to be his last game in New England. But at the same time, I don't feel sorry for Jules except I want him to heal up. You know what I mean? And then go make money somewhere and play some more warm. Go play in like L.A. or Miami. Your Instagram will be fired. dude. I mean, it's got to be better

than Amandola's in Detroit. Oh, Amadola's in Detroit. But book it. He's going to L.A. next year. Jules is going to L.A. next year. There's just book it. Book it. All right. Whatever Bill has to do to beat the Jets, they'll do that.

That's whatever. So that's the, fuck the big picture. Sounds like a pick for next week. Yeah. It might be. You saw the other, you saw maybe the best team in the AFC East play today. Listen, all right. I was texting you. And listen, I was, you said, you know, what are you looking for?

I said, I am going to be all in on dolphins, Rams because there's a lot of things here that I found really interesting. And Tua was probably four or five on that list. Yeah. I wanted to see Flores. And what's the D. Cornyer, Hoyer. Boyer, Boyer, the guy from New England. I was there when he was. Yeah.

Yeah. I just want those guys had a week off to prep for the Rams. the last time they had a week off to prep for the Rams, they found it. They found the key to stopping that Rams offense in the Super Bowl. There was a Dolphins defense. Like I just, I just, I love Christian Wilkins. Van Nuoy's been unbelievable for them.

I love their corners. Like, I just felt like this was a big spot for Miami. And I think they could, they could have won. They had a chance to win the game and ease to it into it. And I know everybody wanted to talk about why now, why now, why now? those guys are at practice every day. They know what Tua could do. You know, they want to see, they wanted to see what he could do.

And this was an opportunity. Now, what I didn't really want to watch and what got ugly a couple times was Aaron Donald against Eric Flowers. That turned in a couple times. How many sacks did he end up with? Just one on the forced fumble and he just, yeah, Cowboy Reese says,

Bruckers absolutely demolished to on that play. Like dumped him. Anybody want to go back and see Michael Brockers, hit Josh McCown in St. Louis 2013. It's the hardest I've seen a quarterback get hit on a football field. Like in my general vicinity.

Clean hit, they just flagged him because he could have killed him. Rogers took a good one today at the end of the last play of the game. Of all the people, I want to get hit hard on the Green Bay Packers, he's not one of them, but I want them all to get hit hard. Not get hurt, but just like, what the fuck are you doing, guys? I'll rant about the Packers another time. Back to my dolphins.

Yeah. This is a perfect example of why quarterbacks in the NFL shouldn't get credit for wins. You know, like they're a major league baseball pitcher. Yeah. Like look at Herbert today at Denver. He gets a loss,

31.30. I don't want to bring it up again. But then Tua gets a win today and he didn't do anything. Fourth lowest QBR and a win this year for a quarterback. The thing, this was amazing. The Rams ran on their 76th play today, they scored their second touchdown. 76 plays, they scored their second touchdown. That's unbelievable. And what Miami, and I know they went up and down the field, but what Miami did and having

the trust in their corners and play some zero coverage and bring heat and make off, you know, not do what he wants to do. Because I know it sounds really simple. but against the Rams and what Miami was able to do, they just kept them in third and long. Right. And that way in third and, you know, third and eight, you know none of those bootlegs,

you're not going to go for any of that stuff. All the play action is taken out, and golf does not want to play, pitch and catch. And those corners, their corners were so good. Eric Roe had to pick today on a second one. He dropped the second one because he jumped it too fast.

He was past the ball, and the ball was behind him. that's how fast he jumped a hit trout. So I was just super impressed with Miami. I really think they have a shot at this division. I talked about Buffalo. They really don't scare me. I had the Miami schedule here.

There's not really, I mean, they got a big one at Arizona, and then they got the Chargers coming in. But like, they got some Denver's on there. They get the Jets again. Yeah. They end the season at Buffalo. They get the Patriots again. Like there's some wins there that.

I mean, there's a thing, they're good, I think is better than Miami's. I really do because Tua is only going to progress more. And what people don't realize now is when Tua has to, this game plan today, they're up 287 or whatever it was, 2810, that game was done. It was just, let's hand it off the Gaskin. Let's get out of here. Run the clock. Let's do whatever to hell.

Like I said, we got Eric Flowers against Aaron Donald. We have the lead. Let's get out of here. So don't read into anything to it. it did today because he was not asked to do anything. But what I'm going to tell you he's going to do is he is going to give his wide receivers a chance. That's what made him great at

Alabama. And I understand that he had the advantage on every probably wide receiver DB matchup in college. But he is going to give those guys opportunities. And I think that it's going to complement their defense really well. Yeah, it's hard to, as you said, you can't really evaluate to

after this. By the way, QB wins. Joe Burrow has two wins. Listen, I got, again, let me remind the listeners, SINC over five and a half wins. Go back and look at how they've lost. Big one today. Big win,

and they're actually still alive. If you look at their schedule to hit that total. So fuck QB wins. Dolphins had 2.8 yards for play at the half and the lead they had. So that tells you everything you need to know.

As I said, you can't diagnose anything about two after this game will know in a couple weeks, but they did get exactly best case scenario what they needed out of this game. low pressure situation for Tua

because all the ways they invented on how to score in the first half other than offense and then throughout the game the one thing I can tell you though is I can evaluate the Rams. They have a ceiling okay, they have a ceiling they might win some more games this year. They're not a bad football team

but they have a ceiling. You mentioned the third and long stuff you get them in third and long you know a lot of those stores are going to be short of the sticks they just don't. Yeah, a ton of them work. Do you have many talks? Do you have any targets Cooper Cup had today? Let me guess. How many actually? Because I don't want a shit to guess.

21. No. 21. How many yards? Did he have a good day? 11 for 110 and he had like two 30 yarders called back. He's a machine, man. I really like Cooper Cup. But here's the deal. Like the team has a ceiling.

I think what happened is they're living off that Cowboys win that meant nothing as it turns out. The classic week one, hey, like, damn, this team's pretty good. They beat the Cowboys. The Cowboys are contenders. No, we're all, we got egg on our face on both ends of it. And Gerald Everett, who tweeted, we just won the NFC East after they won't, you know, beat all the teams in the NFC East.

Well, that's four of their, what, five wins. Have they beat one team outside the NFC's? Yeah, everyone's against Buffalo. No, they lost the Buffalo. Here's who they beat. They beat the Bears. Just a second ago. They beat the Bears last week.

They beat the Bears last one. So I do want to say this. I don't think the NFC West is actually amazing. I think it's just deep. I think the NFC or the AFC. Do you think it's better than the AFC North? I've thought the whole year of the AFC North's better. Okay, good.

Then we're on the same page. Yeah. One thing I will say about the Rams, their schedule's been fucking brutal. They've already played at the Eagles, at Buffalo, at Washington, at Miami. they play in lost their home games are in Los Angeles that's that's nuts it's Halloween man so I'm interested to see what they do the second half of the year I just

think they might be one of those teams it's like the the little leagueer with the mustache early that is like you know everybody's like that kid's gonna be good and then like a couple games in yeah I mean five and three how many road games are I mean I know you don't like them but like Rams Packers is a toss up to me because I don't rest I well, I don't respect the Packers as much as everybody else does. I'm just, I'm just, listen, listen, two of the best players in football defensively. Like, hands down, worth the price of admission, seeing Jalen Ramsey and Aaron Donnell play every week. Jailen Ramsey is a fucking, is just like a mutant.

And so is Aaron. But, and they got some nice players on offense, but they're one of the teams. And this is not to say Jared Goff's a bad player. And, you know, I think he's a good quarterback. Because listen, most people would love to have the career he's had. And I think if anything, he gets held against him that he was drafted high. But like my man's a good player. And I think the problem is though he has a ceiling.

And we talked about it. And I think the Rams are going to bump their head on that ceiling. And unless things are really, really good around him. Yeah, New Orleans, Chicago, we were both watching this game. I think I was watching it with one eye on my notes, getting ready for the pot. I thought a huge, huge thing was third and long, 58 seconds left in the second, and before the half, Nagy gambles and calls timeout. States come out of the timeout.

It's third and 15. They get 14 from Camara on a slip screen. They go for it on on fourth down, get it, and then they go down and score a touchdown. That was, that was an enormous thing. I know Nagy's getting crushed for that, but like, if he doesn't take a time out there, and everybody's yelling, why don't you take a time out? You're the Bears. You've got a chance to get more points. Why don't you do that?

So we saw a good Nick today. We saw a bad Nick today. They just can't get anything from Montgomery on the ground. It's really one-dimensional. I love the guys in the Bears secondary, and I really like the receivers. Like they have, guys that have Twitch, Robinson's phenomenal. Yeah.

I can't believe the Kmet thing wasn't a fumble. Dude, you're telling me, right there I'm sitting pretty right now. I told you both those bets are going, like they're going away because they kick a field goal at least and ice the clock. And I'm covering both I mean, yeah, it was just listen, the right team won the game.

That sequence where they came out of the half and stabilized and made that little comeback. They got punched in the mouth on the road, cold weather game, Drew Brees, no Michael Thomas. They continue to figure out ways to win, which is just, I mean, we even had a

Tassum Hill. positive play. I mean, everybody hates it, and probably nobody hates it more than Drew Brees, but Tason made some big plays today. No, I know. He moved the change, and that touchdown pass was huge. And, you know, it was a Camara show. It's like,

God, he's unreal. He's unbelievable. How does one player carry a football team this long, this much? I mean, he's their offense right now. If you took, he might be in the MVP race, the MVP consideration, outside of a quarterback. if you had to give it somebody outside of quarterback, I mean, you take him off that field.

They are fucked, man. By the way, Nick's going to have his bad. I hate everybody on Twitter, like, as if it's the first time they've ever seen Nick Foals play. Like, yeah, he's going to be bad some weeks and he's going to be really good some weeks. Like, just maybe just recite, retweet your old tweet.

There's no need to, like, continue to drive that point home. My man is going to have bad days. He's going to have bad quarters. But then he could be the guy in the fourth quarter that's like, damn, is his heart rate even elevated? Well, that's, I mean, they're down 10 there. in the fourth, they come back and tie it like nothing. Like that's good. That's one of those things that goes away.

And it's just like, oh, the bear's offense sucks. Like, they're down 10. They, I think it was seven minutes left in the game. They come back and tie it, send it overtime. Like, that's a hard thing to do in this league, man. Could they go get a back before Chicago? Could they go get a back before the deadline? I don't think the back's the problem, Chris.

I mean, I think it's the offensive line. Yeah, they lost Massey in the first series. I think I think I mean I'm not a big I don't I don't ever or I've never looked at the what is it pro football focus grades for O line because those people know everything but I don't know what they're greater is on Massey but I I would think he's one of their top player man he's a solid player and and and that's a massive dude too yeah he's really long man he's just really long he's got really long arms he'll get himself in trouble sometimes out over his punch and you can swipe his hands down.

I don't think they're actually going to lose a whole bunch from a standpoint of like pass protection. Now this kid got beat for a big sack late in the game. But I could see Cam Jordan beaten Massey too. I mean like I think the problem there has always been physicality. When I used to play them, even in the playoffs when we played them, we had no business beating them if they were just physical.

I think it's the scheme as much than anything. It's not a physical. like they're not there's never a back back there with Montgomery either I hate that yeah I mean it's just I mean you have foals back there you know there's no threat no yeah I know I'm gonna slant and do whatever opposite the back like that's that's high school stuff well we both like we both like their their receivers I actually think I think they they match up okay with with Green Bay I got laughed at the other day when I said that. I'm not a Green Bay hater.

I just, they piss me off because they always make you believe, but the minute they play somebody physical, they get their ass kick like today. Fucking Ahmad Rashad made the telecast. He's the last, a bunch of young people today learned that Ahmad Rashad played football and was really good at it because Dalvin Cook banged his head on the goal line four times,

on the goalposts four times. Like that was the kind of day it was I mean like every time they play somebody physical They get beat or they look bad Like it goes back to last year in the playoffs The San Francisco game You know it's just like the blueprint is If you can run the ball up their ass you can beat them

I mean Philip Lindsay dead at them Early in the year last year and that's when I got the scent on these guys And it hasn't changed And it sucks for Aaron Rogers Because I just don't trust them And that's why I picked the lions like a dumb ass Because I was like fuck it I'll just pick somebody interesting

who I could root for the lions. It might be the Bears. The Bears could beat the Packers. I really do believe that. No doubt. No doubt. The Bears' defense, man. I'm telling you, they are a handful.

I know no one wants to hear about it because everybody just wants to talk about their offense and, you know, how inconsistent they are. But that defense is no joke, man. I have a question for you. Yeah. Not to change subject. Are we good on the Bears? Well, I just want to ask you one question.

I want to see how you saw this Camara. Camara Camara. Camara. What am I, which you're on TV. We asked them on the show. Camara. That's good because you know, you don't want to Matt Calvin Camara. I mean, so bring your lessons. Yeah. So, but there's

I didn't have a Camara book to read and I missed the whole one of the stories. Anyways, the angle route that he ran on Mac, I couldn't tell if Mac had him or if that was a bus and he was supposed to be dropping. I couldn't tell if he was peeling with him or if

Camara was dropping, or if he, yeah, because Gibson didn't, it looked at me like Gibson didn't know what he was doing either. I suspect that maybe he was trying to get some depth, thinking he was going to run a wheel. That's what you always do is a defensive end because you're like, you're panicked. Like when I line up and I hear the call and I see Sproles across the way,

I'm like, oh, fuck, I got to run as fast as I can and get depth. But they always say inside out, you know, so just for that route right there. because if you get beat back across your face, there's nobody there in a lot of those defenses. You call the angle route when he acts like he's going to run the flat route and he comes back, pivots and comes back in.

We used to call that Texas route. I think I ran that route in practice 974 times and never fucking ran it in a game. It's my favorite fucking route there is. It's the best. 22 Texas is my favorite thing in the world. So that, but Camara running that route,

is unstoppable. Like if that's a play in Techmo Bowl, that's unstoppable. You're not stopping it. But yeah, my only thing with the beat with that and like with the DN, I saw your tweet about that play is

you got to get wherever you can to be able to collision if you feel like you're going to get beat. Yeah. So if you got to play it outside in, you know, if you're more worried about getting, you know, spun around,

then yeah, you got to come outside in. You got the sideline. have the sideline and that's a tough. But that was kind of in the middle of the field. That was tough. Yeah, but you got the sideline. If you trail him to the sideline, you're just getting his hip pocket, we used to say. Because it's like, man, just let him beat you the sideline and then run like hell to catch up to him and look back at the ball.

When he, you know, look back at which it sounds good. It never happens. But you have help there. There's no help in the middle of the field. I think the pressure was coming opposite and somebody fucked it up. I was just curious. What was your question? Are the 49ers good?

So I already hit that. No. I mean, the 49ers, the 49ers are extremely well coached. They're injured and they don't have a quarterback that I trust. So the 49ers are another team that I've been eating shit on saying, like, listen, I killed them after Miami and they were on life support. The last two weeks I have Niners fans of my mention. See, you just beat the Patriots. You beat the Patriots.

It's not like, I don't know if you've been watching football this. year. You beat the Patriots and the Rams who you've had their number. All I heard all week was, oh, we got this. We got the Rams number. Okay. So now you want a pelt on the wall for beating the Rams, the team that you automatically beat and then the Patriots. No, the Niners are not a good football team. I love some of their players, but they're too hurt and I don't trust Jimmy right now. All right. What say you? I agree. Van Pell and I've been going back and forth all year because the team obviously you always forget about in that division is Arizona, who might be as good as they've been in a long time.

But our argument is always AFC North or NFC West. And I think today that really took a hit with the Niners losing and the Bengals winning. And then seeing Baltimore and Pittsburgh because I still think Pittsburgh and Baltimore are good enough to win a Super Bowl. I do too. I think both of those teams can make a little. sure about and Seattle's right on the cusp. I'm talking about to win the Super Bowl.

Seattle's on the cusp as long as they don't play the bucks. If they play the bucks in the playoffs and the playoffs started today, I'll be concerned about that matchup. Yeah, but if they play them, they're going to get them at home. And I know there's no fans, but that weather, Brady and, I don't think Brady and the cold and rain, I'd take Russ in that one. Which is funny.

It's counterintuitive, but, you know, that's, you think Tom all of the years preferred to be out there in New England? I mean, he's probably so happy in Tampa. Oh, yeah. Not like just from a culture standpoint, but from a weather standpoint. And the thing that worries me about the Ravens today is we talked about how they couldn't really go score for score. You know, they were stopped. Yeah.

And, I mean, if you look down the road, you know, a Seattle, a Seattle, Tampa NFC championship game, that's going to be a score fest. Yeah. And both teams can win that game. Yeah. You know, if you look at the AFC, Kansas City. and Pittsburgh, I think Pittsburgh can win that kind of game with Kansas City.

I'm not sure Baltimore can. I don't think they could. I think they do win that game, and that's why the Steelers over the Seals. Pittsburgh, Seattle is your Super Bowl prediction, right? Yeah, so here's what happened. Yeah, so here's, if I get that right, do I get the Monday night job?

Do I become one of these people who ask for the Monday night job publicly and shit? Do I just, like, do I levitate out of my chair and, like, just find myself right next to, Who the fuck is it? Who's doing Monday night? Oh, is it me and Greasy? Just, do I slide right in between Greasy and Riddick?

Yeah, one of those hovering microphones that hoverses right in front of your face. Oh, yeah. If I get this right, I mean, I might just retire. Somebody's got to pay me a million dollars. I don't know who it is, but if I get this right, it's going to be awesome. Stanford, Steve, appreciate you, man. Hey, come back soon on Sunday night. I think, uh, I think this could be fun, dude.

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bonus and first bet match each up to $500 deposit bonus requires 25 times play through. Restrictions apply see draftkings.com slash sportsbook for details gambling problem call 1,800 gambler or in Indiana, 1,8009 with it. All right, so as always, Stanford Steve is the best. It's easy talking football with him. That's the thing I think gets underplayed a lot with Sanford Steve because, you know, he's kind of, he's got his betting personality and all that stuff.

Like, the guy knows football. It's not just like, he's not just like a gambler. He played and knows the game really well. So it's great having him on. Listen, he made some great points about Miami. That was a fun, fun conversation. I think they're going to be a fun team. And it's always nice when you're excited about the coach.

I gave Matt Ruhl and Teddy the most likable coach QB duo, which like moniker. I don't know how you would say a title. I don't think that existed before then. But yeah, there you have it. Challenging them for sure, it was B-Flow and Fidsey as well in the running and Tua just the same.

That would be a fun team to root for if they got that thing going down there. My goodness. I mean, I didn't think their roster was that great coming in this season. I was wrong about them. So, you know, me and Macon talk

because last week we kind of joked about it. I was shocked I had him here in the studio until like midnight, almost. And actually, once you get him, here he won't leave but Sunday night is it's late for him uh and he's fucking you know he's got a real job

he's got to be up slanging single family homes early on Mondays and that sort of thing so we were gonna we were like let's do the awards on Zoom you know you could you just call him from the house being your fucking uh probably wears PJs like he probably wears

an entire PJ thing with the buttons and everything you can be in his fucking PJs call in on Zoom it'll be great don't want to let the people down people love

the people love Making Gunner so Macon was going to stay up late to like 945 at night and and do 20 minutes of awards you really

pushed through tonight stayed up actually wasn't wearing PJs was wearing like daytime clothes fired the zoom up and he's telling me it's windy okay

my god that's interesting why would you tell me it's windy like I live here too it's fucking windy at the office as well sir like that's weird guys it's windy at his house oh man the branches are really hitting the sunroom also flex

I have a sunroom Must be nice to have a sunroom I don't have a fucking sunroom I have windows Branches are hitting my sunroom Oh do you hear it? I don't hear it It's weird We get like four minutes in

And I'm just like Right make right right And he's just frozen I think he's just ignoring me He's frozen he's been frozen for maybe 40 seconds I've been telling a story Like what's the last thing you heard He's frozen

so we text he said oh the power's out fuck dude the power went out and i believe him and because i believe him and my lovely wife meg lives up the street i'm like i'm gonna call my lovely wife meg to make sure she's okay she has everything she needs while i'm out finishing the content she's sleeping soundly etc the kids are good so i call meg and i'm like Hey, is the power out?

She's like, I don't think so. She's sleeping. And I'm like, can you make sure the power is not out? I hear flicking some lights. It's like, ah, it's bright in here. I'm like, bright from what? And the lights. Oh, so the lights are working.

Yeah. All right, babe. Love you. Hmm. So Makin lives down the street and his power's out. But my lovely wife, her power is not out. It's interesting. It's just weird.

I don't know how power grids work and like, you know, that sort of thing, but you would think they go by neighborhood. And we live in the same neighborhood. It's just weird. I almost feel like he just didn't want to be up that late. We'll talk about it on the pod. We'll talk about it on the pod next week. To be fair, I think he's telling the truth.

Because he tried to call in and that sort of thing. Something's up with his, I don't know, his power is not working. my power was working. So I think having said that and we had, you know, I don't want to go too long here. I want to get Cowboy Reed eight hours of sleep one night this, this year. Shout out to the hardest working dude in the podcast game, I think possibly. I'll just give out like one or two awards. How about that? What happened out there, Dada? The first being the, uh, the what happened, dad. All right? The whims thing. I have no idea what this guy was thinking.

Like, I have been so fucking mad on a football field, but never mad where like I lost control myself and just started, like punching somebody in the helmet, a play after the thing that happened. Like, not even on the play. I have punched somebody in the helmet so hard. I punched a guy in Carolina in the helmet so hard. I'm glad he had a helmet on.

And it fucking hurt my hand and I got ejected. I blacked out because somebody, he was fucking with Robert Quinn. It's one of those Panthers O'Lyman. They were like, they were ganging up on him like 20 yards behind the play. And of course the refs are sitting there because we suck and we're defensive players. And they're just like staring at him, like getting teamed up on it. I got fucking pissed.

And I punched a guy right in the face mask. And I knew I got ejected right away as soon as I did it. And it was dumb. But I blacked out because it happened all in the same moment. Like, it didn't happen a play ago. I have no idea what happened there. I know that he snatched, tried to snatch the guy's chain. But one of the most hilarious things you'll ever see on a football field was

Gardner Johnson is the hyphenated name dude who eats, punches, and open hand slaps to the fucking face mask. Like a pro. Like one of those, he's like one of the guys. that gets the shit slapped out of them for a living. Like, not for a living, because I don't think those guys get paid, but at those contests where they put talcum powder on their hands,

I don't know why they do that. And they just slap this shit out of each other. That's what Gardner Johnson does. Just after he punched him the first time, he looked confused, and then he kind of squared up because he was thinking they were going to have one of those DB, you know,

helmet punching contest. It's like a different sport than boxing or fighting. It's like we're going to dance around and punch each other in the helmet. This is not a Floyd Mayweather fight. It's like this is not Floyd Mayweather Ricky Hatt and I don't know why I remember that fight. Everybody got drunk and went out to a spot in St. Louis to watch the Ricky Hatt and Floyd Mayweather fight. And we got a party bus and the whole thing and it was like D-Line night out. and we're like getting escorted to our table

and we're feeling like real good about this and we just sit down and the fight's over. That fight sucked. Yeah, it's not a boxing match. It's just two dudes punching each other in the helmet. When I punched that guy in Carolina in the helmet, I'd like to talk to that guy. I would like to have like a sit down

like 30 years after something bad happened. They bring two people together to reconcile things. I would like to have a sit down with that. guy. Cowboy Reed, can you find out who I punched? You punched the punter. His name was. Okay, that's funny. That's funny. I know you're really like, I'm going to fucking look it up right here. I have no idea who the guy was. He was a guard for the Carolina Panthers. But after I punched him, I got escorted off the field by Steve Miller. He was a security guard. And somebody threw a bottle at me and it hit me and I really didn't care, but I just pointed at the guy because I was just going to, if I was

going out, I was going to take this guy with me and I was going to get him kicked out. So I just was like, yeah, it was him right there. Call me what the fuck you want. I was going to a locker room. This guy was going to the parking lot. And they caught a picture of me pointing at the guy, like somebody, some like, you know, Blackberry picture. That's how long ago it was 2012. People had iPhones by them, but they were small and like bricks and they took shitty pictures. I think somebody took a picture of me pointing at the crowd and Will Brinson, who's my guy now, but Will Brinson back in the day,

we talked about it because Will Brinson posted me and was like real classy Chris flipping off. Chris Long flips off Carolina Panthers fans during an ejection. And I was like, God damn. I know I did some stupid shit there and punched a guy,

but I didn't flip the fans off. And I definitely wouldn't do that at a stadium of my childhood favorite team. I got to see Musi Muhammad's little pregame feature on Thursday night here and I got nostalgic. I love that fucking team. I went to a Carolina Panthers game.

I don't even feel good about saying this as a kid and painted my face. Painting my face. Panthers game. Took a picture with the cheerleaders. I was like that little awkward kid taking a picture with the cheerleaders with a painted face.

Yeah, the pictures are super awkward. So don't ask. Don't ask me to fucking dig them up. I was one of those people. Huge Panther fan. And my homecoming ends in a, my fandom homecoming ends in an ejection. So I've blacked out on the field before,

but never a play later. And listen, tried to get the chain, didn't get the chain, and then like just punched him in the helmet three times and he didn't even move. And it's the guy that Mike Thomas punched. Whatever this guy is doing,

He's got to be a terrible person to argue with. This guy is like, he knows how to push buttons. This fucking guy knows how to push buttons. Instigator, that guy. Also, what happened, Dad, I got to mention this. This whole segment is about Macon. Even if Macon never, his Zoom never gets working and he has a power outage every Sunday.

I'll just talk about Macon, you know? I know there are a lot of listeners who love Macon talk. So, listen, Halloween was this weekend. As I mentioned before, I had a four-year-old Mucinex man who calls himself a germ, which is, it's the worst year to be a germ as a, like, not read the fucking room, but also kids deserve to have choices, right? So, you know, my son wants to be a germ. He likes the Mucinex man commercial.

Here we go. Here's a fat suit with the little air conditioner thing in there that, like, makes a noise. and stays inflated and a slimer mask and a fedora. You are the Mucin X-Man. And a one-and-a-half-year-old train conductor, Luke was adorable. He was just cute, you know?

So we're taking them trick-or-treating and we bring him down to Uncle Macon's house because even little Luke knows where Macon lives. Like, he's popular. I know they're lights off people. during Halloween, as were we this year, to be fair, pandemic and such. But we took the kids down the hill to Macon's and, you know, rolled up, and his lovely wife Kate comes to the door,

and Macon is just peering out of a window in an A shirt, and I think his boxers and slick back hair eating cereal, it's nightfall, Halloween. He's getting ready to go do the UVA game. And he's eating cereal in a window sill because he does not want to come outside and talk to trick-or-treaters. In fact, all their lights are off. Kate is doing her best to be festive and hands out pretzels, I think it was. They might have been chocolate covered.

But either way, pretzels on Halloween. I mean, these guys. And as we're like getting ready to leave, we notice a big truckload of kids. gets out at the end of the street. And they've been doing a great job of keeping a low profile, having any trick or treaters. Like cute zombies, these kids.

It's like they heard something. Remember in the Walking Dead when you didn't wanna make any noise? We made noise. And they were all like an army of these kids. And they were just descending on his house down this hill. And there's two entrances to the driveway.

And the kids are coming down one entrance. and we're going out the exit and we're laughing because we see him coming. And it was like a curb moment. And as we're rolling out of the driveway, I made sure to be like, that's a great house right there, big candy bars. And the whole neighborhood just slowly converged on old Macon's house. I was so proud. I didn't mean for that to happen, but I was not upset that that happened.

So that was gonna be his what happened at a tonight to tell that story. He would have done better doing it. It was hilarious. Let me go game ball and give you a mailbag or two, and we'll get out of here. So I wanna give a game ball to Justin Zimmer of the Buffalo Bills. In all seriousness, that was a great play.

Great play. And I mentioned earlier that, those plays get lost in the shuffle. I mentioned the Josh Norman play a couple weeks ago for the bills. And listen, I don't know if this team's going places, but that play Josh Norman made peanut punching the ball out before,

this was before his Wikipedia entry read, died, you know, October, whatever. Derek Henry killed him, like all that stuff. He made a great play and altered the result of that. Raiders game and I said then you know those are the plays that add up when you're going into

postseason and trying to make a run. Justin Zimmer made one of those plays earlier today and it was more than just one win it was beating the Patriots and make no mistake about it. I don't think highly of that defense right now but you might not be very good in the NFL sometimes but if you hustle, you never know what happens. Great play by 61 to get that ball out. Again, we got to get him a new number. I see he's been in league like two, three years, 28, Ferris State.

Big man running, 300-pounder. We got to get him a new number. I was like, hey, that's some long snapper number stuff, man. Justin Zimmer deserves better. he just beat the Patriots because they were going to score. They were going to score, dude. And he saved me money. So that helps too when it comes to narrowing down the recipients of these awards.

The advisory council takes that into account as well. How could we not? It's a very personal subjective list. Justin Zimmer gets the game ball. And as a result, Green Light Studios are going to be sending you a new number, Justin, something with more swag, something that fits you better, something that better represents your talent and what you bring to the game.

Okay? Justin Zimmer Game Ball. Had a couple mailbags real quick before we get out of here. This was the one I just couldn't ignore. It's funny, I said like, hey guys, here was my tweet exactly. I was just bored up here waiting for the game then. It's hard to be bored when there's that much riding on a game Sunday night, The NFC East will do it to you.

I tweeted, mailbag for tomorrow morning. I'm still up watching this, quote, thing, unquote, so far away. Anything NFL. See, what I did with anything NFL, and I put this in the thread, anything NFL was like encouragement not to make me talk about this particular bullshit. I don't think anybody got the message because I had 46 questions about Carson, seven about Doug, three about Jim Schwartz, and then like what Super Bowl did you like more

and I'm appreciative of all the questions but not doing the Eagles game tonight not in depth but it's funny the fact that y'all didn't get that anything NFL like please here's one from Mr. Goodbar's hot friend at Poet Gambler got a lot going on with your name sir

what was more hard to deal with a blowout loss a loss following a lead or a near comeback win that fizzled out the last drive. Man, you know what? This is a great question. It really is. A blowout loss, maybe I just got conditioned to that, and that's the problem with being on a losing football team.

Like, I always wanted to win really bad, but you just got good at coping with it, although that damn near, I swear, almost killed me playing in St. Louis for eight years. None to do with the city. Almost killed me. bad mentally. But like, you know, I would say a loss following a lead. Like when you relinquish a lead, it is an awful, awful feeling.

2018 was one of the most miserable years of my life playing football. Because, and this is part of the conversation, what I said about getting used to blowouts like in St. Louis is that's all you know. after a while, it's like, why would a blowout or a loss feel bad, even the most crushing loss when you don't know what wins feel like? So I think it's really hard. In 2018, what was so hard about it was we had seen what we were capable of in 17. And 18 was just so up and down and guys were so hurt and just the kind of magic wasn't happening. And we still damn near pulled it out. But that was a tough year. And it was tough because we blew leaves.

We blew like multiple leads and I felt like some of them were pretty clearly on the defense, but we were losing as a team and we were blowing these leads and that is a feeling that's so empty in a locker room. Like that Tennessee loss in 18 was one of the most miserable losses of my life as a football player. and I think it was because we were blowing leads like Carolina was miserable miserable blew a lead a near comeback win that fizzled out the last drive you can be proud of yourself

you're going to be fucking unless you got in a hole and you were supposed to win that game and then you couldn't but if if it's a scratching and clawing situation and you're you're busting your ass and it's just a great football game, you can deal with that. The one that really hurts is losing a big lead.

That's why 2018 was tough, because we had a couple of those. We might have had more than two. Those are the two that stood out. Blowout loss, got used to that. Andrew Widmire asks, if you were Avery Williamson,

exactly how good would you be feeling right now? and how large is the strain from being on a terrible team? Well, I just said that being on a terrible team almost killed me. It's like I couldn't put it. I mean, like, sometimes you just,

you're not sure. Like what is, you're like, do I really only get one career? Is this it? Did I just like nearly, did I physically take years off my life playing this game to get this one career?

Um, 32 teams? I can only be on this one team. It's a big strain. Avery Williamson, of course, getting traded to the Steelers from the Jets. Not a long trip, but it's going to be a little bit different.

I mean, golly, dude. You're just walking around, like, smiling awkwardly at the facility. Like, you're just walking in and, like, touching things. Like, touching the soda machine and, like, pressing the buttons on the soda machine. and you're like, like the training tables

that you lay in the training room are softer and the pillows are nicer and there's like better meals. This guy's probably going to be at the facility till 10 o'clock every night. Although the Jets facility is nice and everything, but just winning feels better. Everything feels better when you're winning.

Work is more fun. And this one was pretty good. Somebody asked me, and I'm sorry, I lost the tweet. Shout out to you. You're, you know, look in the mentions under my mailbag tweet. if you could hire one fictional head coach for the Jets from a movie, who would it be?

You know what? I thought about Gene Hackman in Hoosiers. And then I said, that's a terrible movie. And those speeches were not very good. And players would smell that bullshit from a mile away because they're so calloused and hardened right now because of the losing that no Disney speeches are going to work, man.

Especially, I mean, I didn't even think they were that great. Honestly, I don't like the movie. I also didn't think the speech, the miracle speech was that good. So sorry, guys. I know I've said this stuff in different times. You know, if you got to unsubscribe, just, I'd rather you just tweet mean things at me. Leave your, you know, stay subscribed. Tell me you hate my movie takes and call it a day.

You don't have to listen to Pot anymore. But I don't like Miracle and I don't like Hoosiers. send in James Gammond as Lou Brown. That might not ring a bell off the top, but that is the manager from Major League, the OG manager. And he had a heart attack, like, in the movie. He was so mad. Cowboy Reed put his thumb up.

Hey, maybe the best sports movie of all time. Hard to beat that one. Thought about the Bull Durham manager. This team needs like real, like asshole leadership. But this guy can give him that, but he can also give him that kind of like fair, tough love. You know, he's not going to play favorites.

He wasn't caught up in the bullshit. That's what the Jets need right now. They need Lou Brown. They need Lou Brown. And if they got Lou Brown, nothing would change, but at least it would be Lou Brown. Hard not to like Lou Brown.

Great movie. Gonna watch it this week. Got no choice now. Anyways, we'll be back on Wednesday. I hope you guys, golly. Stay safe Tuesday. And everybody, if you still can, I mean, drop your ballot off, get out and vote.

Appreciate you. Take care.