Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Week 9 Recap with ESPN's Stanford Steve; Tua vs Kyler and Bucs' Break Chris' Back.
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This is what the future of the NFL is looking like right here.
Now, they're not making a lot of Matt Rule, Joe Brady, Andy Reed, Eric Bianami combos,
but these four coaches have got it cooking and the quarterbacks have got it cooking all in different ways.
Obviously, one's the head honcho right now on Patrick Mahomes, although he seems to be an MVP afterthought.
And you've got these two young guns that are changing, you know, the position's changing.
And this is a symptom of that change.
guys like Tua and Kyler.
The position is changing.
Happiest of Monday mornings to you.
I hope you're doing great.
I really, really, really, really do.
I'm currently watching
the Saints go up 37,
nothing against the bucks.
Who I took?
I took them.
I needed.
It's 1049 at night.
Okay, it's been a long day.
Here's what we got on the show.
Stanford Steve and Sunday Awards.
Okay, I needed a win.
I needed a win, and the bucks broke my back.
Chris Long is out with a broken back.
Tell Draft Kings, Chris Long,
how many months to start next season?
Like nine?
Chris Long's out nine months with a broken back.
Thank you, Bucks for nipping that in the butt.
38-0.
Taysam Hill is the fucking quarterback, like, for half the plays.
Every time I look up, I've been recording this pod.
Taysam Hill's playing quarterback.
Some guy I've never heard of is running around with the ball,
and no red jerseys around him,
perpetually.
Drew Brees, like, dumping some ball off.
Somebody's wide open.
Sean Payton is a wizard.
and I suppose the saints are healthy.
Not going to lie.
I have written them off a couple times this year.
I do think the Kwan Alexander thing's going to help them.
I do.
I don't know what to make of this game with the Bucks.
I'd have to watch it without recording a podcast
and it being on the other room.
Who, ugly.
really ugly.
Alex Trebek passed away today.
That was, that sucked, man.
That guy, I mean, like, is there anybody
more universally loved
than Alex Trebek?
In times like these, like the irony
of Alex Trebek dying this weekend,
was that nobody can agree on anything
and nobody's getting along.
I'm pretty sure everybody loves Alex Trebek.
That show, you don't even have to be smart to like that show.
You would just sit there and watch it for hours hoping you would magically become smart.
Like you'd start just knowing the answers to stuff and you just never would.
Although I was streaky.
I would get a few.
And there was a really special moment where I think we were a Jeopardy answer.
It was maybe a couple of us from the Eagles, but like we made it.
We made Jeopardy.
And I thought that was cool, man.
Just seemed like a really classy guy.
He'll always be synonymous with really soothing TV, man.
And that's no bullshit.
You could turn on Jeopardy and just relax.
He will be missed.
Everybody loves Alex Trebek.
God rest his soul, man.
So I do have one shout out.
And that is John Fossel.
Shout out to John Fossel, my former special team's coordinator in St. Louis,
one of the best coaches I've ever had.
One of the lone bright spots in my estimation when you look at the outlook of the Dallas Cowboys.
He is a really, really good coach.
And I think one day he's a head coach.
I don't know.
I don't know, man.
I don't know what makes people head coaches or not.
But if being like, and maybe I'm being unfair or jumping in conclusions here,
his leadership of like special teams dudes i've never seen anything like it you know when you
well you don't know but when you walk into a meeting room and you can just tell everybody's bought
in and there's like a lot of trust in that room he's he's got that effect and uh guys play hard for him
and today he also likes tricks there's actually an inadvertent mention of uh his his dirty work
later on in this podcast talking to Macon
about Johnny Hecker converting fake punts in St. Louis.
The guy always had something up his sleeve.
He scared the shit out of the entire league.
And I guess he still does.
I mean, he had two huge plays today
that came on special teams
from his Dallas Cowboys unit
and kind of kept them in the game.
So shout out to Coach Fawley.
We called him bones.
I think it's because he's skinny.
Tom Brady's getting sacked again,
just throwing the ball in the air, getting hit.
I knew this game was a fucking wrap,
the first play
when he got hit by Cam Jordan.
Like the first play.
And then the next play,
next play, it's like he's getting hit again,
he's getting hit again,
and Sean Payton's first 15,
that's like the script,
like to start the game,
was impeccable.
and it was raining.
It was raining.
Drew Breeze in the rain?
I don't even know if there's a real trend there,
but everybody knows Drew Breeze isn't good in the rain
until I Google it and he's probably actually pretty good in the rain.
Fuck this game, man.
So first, I've got Stanford Steve joining us.
We are going to talk about two really fun games,
Dolphins Cardinals,
and Chiefs Panthers.
This is what the future of the NFL is looking like.
Right here.
Now they're not making a lot of
Matt Rule, Joe Brady, Andy Reed,
Eric B. Enemy combos.
But these four coaches have got it cooking.
And the quarterbacks have got it cooking
all in different ways.
Obviously there's one.
One's the head honcho right now.
I'm Patrick Mahomes,
although he seems to be an MVP.
afterthought.
And you've got these two young guns that are changing, you know, the position's changing.
And this is a symptom of that change, guys like Tua and Kyler.
The position is changing.
And then Teddy, who might be one of the most likable quarterbacks in the history of
the NFL and also proving that he's very capable with the right coach and the right system.
but Joe Brady
he's got it cooking
we'll also talk about
the indie Baltimore matchup
which was interesting
if anything
I mean it was very boring
can something be boring and interesting
in what we can glean from it
and what played out on the field
but boring as hell
boring as hell
wow
and then the
the Hawks
and the Bills
we'll hit that game as well
which was thoroughly disappointing
if you're looking forward to seeing
Seattle make a run.
Some stinkers from those guys
past few weeks.
We'll see if they can rebound.
Stanford's Eve and I will hit all that
and then Macon and I will hit Sunday awards.
And
that's all I got for you.
You know, this is
bad day at the office here.
Thanks to the bucks.
Did Antonio Brown catch a ball today?
Cowboy Reed says thumbs up.
Did he catch more than five balls today?
Three for 31 on five targets.
Boy, you know what's crazy actually?
Like, I'm imagining since he's living in Tom's house right now,
like them getting home and him trying to talk to Tom at the kitchen counter.
And he's like, not now, Antonio.
Like trying to cheer him up and shit.
Do you mind if I have some of your avocado ice cream?
Sure.
Have at it.
just like please stop asking me questions
and trying to cheer me up.
I fucking hate my life.
We just lost.
Tom Brady is going to be next level mad.
Later on in the show during awards,
I'll be giving out,
as we usually do,
best plane ride,
worst plane ride.
Maybe the worst plane ride.
We should slide the bucks
traveling to Carolina next week.
You can't even crinkle your pretzels on that flight.
Like your little pretzels they give you.
which are the bomb dude washed it down with some ginger ale on a flight like don't even don't even
crinkle it like you're at the movies in the quietest part in the movie theater and you can't
make any noise like don't make any noise on that flight that's how tense that flight's going to be
the whole time who tom's going to have tom's going to have them puckered up in that place but
i'm pretty sure tom didn't play well today so it's going to be an interesting week in uh you know
Tampa.
Thought you hit rock bottom against the
Bears. Jeez, Louise.
And this team's in your division.
Here's the thing about losing to a team
in your division. You don't want to do it twice
if you plan on seeing them
in the playoffs. Like, you don't
want to lose twice to a team in the regular
season. It's a bad sign.
I know it sounds obvious, but from a psyche
standpoint, like,
they might see these guys again.
It's bad.
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1 800 gambler or in indiana one 800 nine with it so in real time it's 9.08 p.m and i think i
killed the tampa bay buccaneers by betting a large sum of money on these guys okay steve have you
yeah have you ever been so bad you just were killing the teams that you decided to wager uh oh yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because then you feel like, you know, it's back, you know,
I mean, for how many years it's been Tom, I hate to bring it up,
but Tom Brady and Belichick, like, but then it felt like whenever I took the Patriots
when it was Brady and Belichick, they were given, all right,
I'll lay the points with Patriots and they would win and not cover.
And it's just you start keeping tabs on teams, Chris,
and you start getting feelings and you remember the loss,
just like when you were playing.
You remember the loss is a hell of a lot more than you remember the wins.
Well, I'm about to tell you something that might change your mind on that little bit of advice.
I have them on the money line.
Tampa.
Yeah, Tampa.
Kiss of death here.
Sorry, Tom.
I don't know if you listen to the pod, but it's my fault.
Whatever happens from here on from 9.09 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on tonight,
you were just a casualty of just a violent day.
There should be like a parental advisory on my little ticket today.
Like you, or a marital advisory.
Explicit lyrics.
Explicit lyrics.
Children shouldn't see it.
My kids will never see it.
I'm ashamed to talk to my parents tomorrow.
Like I've got my tail tucked between my legs like a kid.
It's terrible.
I hate gambling, Steve.
Hey, speaking of real football.
Yeah?
Because I don't gamble anymore.
Um,
Let's start with the fun games today, man.
There were a couple really fun games.
Also, first off, if you were late into your chair today,
like five minutes late, you missed seven touchdowns.
It was like the scoring just picked right up.
The two most fun games of the day probably were,
Dolphins Cardinals and Kansas City, Carolina.
I know you have a big interest in one of them in particular.
your guy is now 2 and O in the NFL.
First off, both teams can win their divisions, right?
No doubt.
And Brian Flores might be coach of the year.
I know the Steelers are 8 in O.
I know Mike Tomlin is as good of a coach as we've seen in the league in the last 15, 20 years.
But what Flores is done with Miami, man.
It was like, like I've never done it.
but like if I ever went out for like a laser tag game and I didn't know what was going on,
that's what it felt like those quarterbacks, each of them were dodging the first two series each.
Like it felt like the Cardinals D came out, which is Haymaker Blitzes all over and two survived them,
got away with two bad groundings.
And Kyler on the same thing.
Like there's one time, I know people I added online on the bird, you know, where the dolphins
had an exotic set up.
And Kyler, we couldn't tell if he checked to it,
but they just ran quarterback-wide zone against it down by the goal line.
Yeah.
And it's just like not only are these guys dodging bullets,
but they actually had a couple, you know,
bullets in their gun for if we did get an exotic in the red zone,
this is what we're going to go to.
And it's just, it shows you how thorough.
I mean, I know people said Kingsbury's offense wasn't going to work in this league,
but like it just shows you the audacity.
that it has, man.
And I thought there was a huge
the fourth down at the end of the game
where Kyler gave it up. I mean, he
was money on fourth down's running
the ball. But I think, I mean, two
made every throw. Kyler made every throw.
Kyler obviously did more with his legs.
One fourth down, he made Van Ney
look like I've never
seen Van Nuoy. But the game
had everything. And shout out to the dolphins,
man. They brought it.
Gonzalez with the kick at the end.
I mean, he said,
right there. I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened either though, but I don't know what
happened on, as you mentioned, third and fourth down. I thought that was a really bad sequence
for Cliff. Just being real about it. If I'm on defense in that situation, I'm like, oh, fuck yeah,
they're going to kick it because there's no way we're stopping them on fourth down. I mean,
it's like having an extra man on fourth and short is what having Kyler Murray, one of these guys,
like. So I think, you know, what we mentioned, the divisions are wide open. You might have a coach
of the year. Dolphins five of six,
five of six and two is two and oh.
Can you believe the success of a lot of these young QBs before I get into like raving
about Kyler and a losing effort and two in some big moments like, can you believe with
no prep time, no OTAs, no training camps, we had Herbert go toe to toe with the chiefs
with like five minutes to get to get ready. You had Burrow who's been great, two is now two and
know the Dallas kid
I don't even know his name I watched the whole game
with the dad Gary Gilbert yeah
I mean yeah what is going on
Luton Luton with the backdoor cover
how about the spin move on the goal line
don't even remind me dude that fucking guy
I respect him but I hate him
like these guys are just out of the woodwork man
I mean in the cards they're very frustrating
but I'm starting to think it's more Miami
creating their own look
they almost spotted them too early action
first or touchdowns in the first and second half they were lucky it didn't become two and
kiler besides that throw on third and one which i'm sure he's like well i'm gonna have another
chance right it's gonna be fourth and fucking inches he probably wants that i definitely wants that
sack fumble back i mean he's staring shack lost in the face just hit your hot just hit
your hot and augba he's i mean he's a really good rusher and i respect him he's having a great year
i don't think i ever had a year like this but he's not winning a bunch of one-on-ones they
don't have anybody that, they don't have anybody that scares me, like, as rushers.
Even like when Van Hoy gets numbers, they don't win rushes. It's just guys statistically
coming free. Yes, yes. And that's, and that's, Kyle, he had to know coming in, like, I feel
pretty good about our chances if I don't just give them the ball on one of these situations.
That was the one thing. But, man, starting with Tua, I mean, he was great early and then he was
great late. I mean, the throw to Williams
tied at 14 right between two
dudes was a pro throw.
You just know really fast
that he's going to be a guy.
And then fast forwarding to late in the game,
his first chance to be a hero is
that drive was amazing, dude. It starts
it's his first chance trailing
in the fourth quarter as an NFL quarterback
and he goes
5 of 5 for 53 yards
on the drive. It's 10 plays, 93 yards.
I mean, the first
big throw was out of
own end zone third and nine basically.
And then you get the run on third and four.
He makes Buddha miss,
who we talked about on the gambling show.
Then the scramble,
you know,
down to the 10 and the throat of Matt Collins,
bro.
Matt Collins are the Philadelphia Eagles,
world champion.
Didn't even know he was down there.
And yeah,
and he got hurt because the other tight end,
or he got in because the other time got hurt,
Smyth or whatever his name is.
Yeah.
But yeah,
no, the throat,
I told you,
he can make every throw.
he is he's a gambler throwing the football he'll take chances he'll try and fit it in tight windows
but he's a believer in his guys man like i talked about a bunch at alabama he was spoiled
with having guys that were better in every single matchup yeah and that forced him to give them
more opportunities and he got burned some and he's going to get burned some but i'll tell you
what man like you i mean time after time today uh go back and look at
All the different spots that Buda Baker blitzed from.
Depth outside, inside.
Like, they throw in, and I'll tell you what, I mean,
last night we were texting a little bit last night about the Notre Dame Clemson game.
At the end of that game, it really felt like Clemson didn't have any more bullets in the gun blitz-wise.
It felt like books saw it all.
Yeah.
And I got that feeling today with Tua.
I think Arizona tried to, you know, jump them out of the gates.
and I think it helped him.
He's obviously kept his poise
and made the plays late when they needed him, man.
That was a hell of a win for the dolphins.
Yeah, and here's the thing.
You talk about like,
this is becoming more the norm in the NFL.
And by the way,
Kyle is going to have a lot of like exercise patients
type first rounders out of jobs over the next decade.
Everybody's going to be looking for Kyle or Murray.
You could, like, they could have the fucking draft three games into a guy's
rookie season.
They're going to be looking for a Kyleor Murray.
I mean,
Listen, I am really happy as a fan to see this, but I got out at a good time.
Oh, yeah, you did.
I mean, being a pass rusher right now is not very fun.
Not very fun at all.
The one thing that's cool, though, today was seeing the bootlegs away from me with the left
hander as a left end.
Like, where the fuck was that?
I mean, I just want to give Kyler his props before we move on.
I know they lost the game and the lead is to a.
This guy is amazing.
I mean, he's amazing.
I mean, Steve mentioned it a little bit earlier.
As a former D-Lyman watching this game,
I mean, there was a third and nine in the red zone early
where they're driving, and I think it's maybe
at the 10-12-yard line.
No, no, it's like the 17-yard line.
Basically, they drop the edge guy,
and you're trying to loop the three technique to contain.
And watching the three technique,
he knows what he's got to do.
The angle's fine, but he just can't get there.
And Kyler just sees it and takes off.
and scrambles.
I mean, like, that's the type,
even if you know what your job is,
he's going to make it hell.
Like the zone read on fourth and one,
where Van Hoy,
and that's a tough tackle coming from the middle of the ball.
But these are all like,
these are,
you can do everything that Baltimore could do
if you were in that offense.
He's more slight.
You'd worry about him getting hit.
Plus the throwing that we're worried about with Lamar right now.
And that's the one thing I will say about Arizona
in the second half,
especially like when they came out and went down,
and they came out, you know,
right away with the throwdown field,
the Kirk on the corner route,
it felt like Arizona got really,
really run heavy.
And I just,
I still think you got like,
guys like Kirk and Newk and Fidsey,
like I,
it felt like forever,
or like,
you know,
the first quarter that they took a shot down the field like that.
And that's one thing.
I mean,
listen,
play calling is,
is the hardest thing to me in the sport
and I'm not second guess
anyway I just felt like they got
they got a little too comfy running the football
that's all yeah I mean when a guy's
making throws like the one he made to
I mean like even the one that he made to Kirksey
which like people take for granted
like a wide open bomb
where guys got beating somebody down the scene
by the way tough game for Byron Jones
Byron Jones had a rough one
including that tight end ripped a ball
away from in the corner of the end zone
like that's everybody else's highlight play today
and we haven't even talked about it yet with Kyler.
I mean, how about the fact that in empty,
they just run a quarterback sweep on 302?
Like, fuck it.
Well, just like, there's nobody there.
Let's just run it right in.
Oh, the guy set the edge.
I'm just going to duck underneath.
Like, it's a cheat code, man.
I mean, he's amazing.
I look forward to watching him for a long time.
That's going to be fun.
Another really fun game today was Kansas City, Carolina.
I mean, these four coaches really going at it.
Uh-huh.
were just like Andy and Rule had to trade fucking dry fits or something after the game.
You know, just trade their little welder COVID masks after the game.
Like Andy was probably just so much respect for what Joe and Matt did today.
Yes.
It took everything Kansas City had to outscore that Teddy, a new guy from college.
And, well, he's not a new guy from college.
he's cut his teeth in the pros.
And Matt Rule, who is a new guy from college,
like that, it took everything for Kansas City
outscore these guys.
That's my question for you about this game.
What job does Joe Brady want because he's getting it?
I mean, it is.
That team, I mean, this is really the first time.
They played the Raiders week one,
but, you know, Mike Davis was
a factor. There was a lot of times with McCaffrey and Mike Davis on the field today.
Teddy Bridgewater was phenomenal. The fourth down run where he dives over to the defenders.
I mean, that's Tyron Matthew. That's one of the most fearful guys in the secondary. And he jumps
over with the game on the line. Joe Brady, I mean, like I said, he's what does he want,
if Texas comes open, does he want that job? Does he want the Jets job? What job do you want Joe Brady
to get is the question?
that's just that's like if you if you could as a fan just give joe brady a job and by the way the bucks are down
21 nothing saints d line just did a tip drill for you well i am the only good the only good thing
that that the saints are doing right now is they might be leaving too much time that's there you go
i like a positive spin i got no choice but what you said though i mean brady i'm thinking about
some of the jobs. I mean, listen, I'm selfishly here because the people of Detroit and Matt
Stafford deserve like something happy to happen in their lifetime. I got one for you.
What? Dallas Cowboys. Oh. Second, I don't know, are they still hiring gingers?
No, no. It's hard to, can you, there's got to be a rule that you can't hire too many gingers
within a 25-year span.
Joe Brady,
oh,
golly, dude.
That guy's got the world
by the balls,
man.
And it's almost like
with Matt Rule,
it's like,
don't hire too good
because you're going to lose
him in a year or two
and it just might make you look so bad,
you know?
Like you,
you said the term,
you know,
cut his teeth at the prolo
before he went to LSU.
Like,
it,
like he's done having to prove things.
Like,
it's amazing.
Look at LSU since he left and now look at the Carolina Panthers.
Yeah, he's kind of upstaging Matt,
even though I think Matt's showing to be a really good football coach.
I mean, and Matt will be able to probably find a,
here we are writing Joe to like team like, but it's true.
It's just, it's, it's tough thing if you're a head coach to,
if you want a boy wonder at OC,
you just have to have a contingency plan pretty quickly.
Absolutely.
you know and uh and i think that's going to be interesting to see i i would love to watch them
duke it out all year long i could watch that for 16 games right off the bat you saw what a
difference CMC makes as if there was like any doubt he's him and kamara are like as taseom hill
goes in to make it 28 nothing pretty much this is a no you got tackle at the one this is a
fucking nightmare this is like i want to
to run directly out my glass window
right now. I'm not high enough that I could
really hurt myself. My office is not
that high off the ground, but just
to run through the glass window.
Okay. There's not a lot of people outside
right now. If I just run straight through it
and fall like seven feet onto the concrete
and make a big
fucking scene, maybe I could scream it out.
Maybe was the key word you used.
Anyways,
Christian McCaffrey was
really good today.
And you know what?
Here's the thing.
Like you mentioned the Honey Badger earlier.
Honey Badger, I don't see him doing this a lot.
Palms up on that first touchdown.
Palms up being who's supposed to be here?
Fourth and three, they go for it.
I think it's a pick play.
And they dump it off to CMC.
And it's just like, I just feel like this offense,
this offense is going to be the next thing we're talking about.
And we're talking about Joe Brady right now.
The next McVeigh, the next, you know, Shanahan.
And people are realizing in real time.
And by the way, one of the gutsiest fourth and ten pluses I've ever seen.
Teddy's so fucking likable, dude.
He's one of the most likable quarterbacks of all time.
I don't know if he's the long-term answer there.
I think you'd have to really build that roster to be dominant in some other spots for him to carry a contender.
But gosh, I hope it works out for him.
I think somebody had a stat where in the last, in the last 15 years or whatever, he's the best quarterback against the spread.
He's like 32 and 11, something like that.
Yeah.
And it's nuts what he's done.
And like he said, as likable, as gutty, like everything you want.
Neutral field Chief Steelers, what are you making the spread?
Chief Steelers.
Well, I actually liked that matchup for Pittsburgh, but I'll say three and a half for Kansas City.
That's what I said today.
Somebody asked me, I said three and a half.
man if I could only just make the
fucking odds right
that's assuming we're right
hey also the fake punt
this is just it was a clinic from both teams
the fake punt second week in a row
and then that drive caps with the
Samuel end around it was just like
no play was normal
I mean the Kansas City and you could feel where they
kind of we haven't even talked about what happened
in the game were just so enamored with these coaches
but like
they were trailing the whole time and
scratching and clawing and then you could just feel it with that 44 yarder to Kelsey.
That was the moment where you're like big man running, great route, stiff arm, dart.
You know, he's getting up just flailing his arms around and shit.
And that's when you know, like, they're going to pull it together.
The chiefs, they just sleepwalk sometimes.
I mean, it's just, I don't know.
Mahomes has so much Steph Curry and him.
So much.
Like an NBA regular season game, it's just like, I'm, I'm so bored.
I'm just going to shoot a deep three here.
let me see if it goes in
but even the plays that they ran
though I mean the Andy dialed up for him
it was just so
like you said
he's bored for a while
and they're like oh I gotta go make a play
oh Andy dial me up some play
you've never seen before like catching the ball
in motion then throwing it back across your body
or the fake reverse
to Clyde you know just nothing
was like boring today and I just
it was a lot of fun it was a lot of fun
fun fun football
I just love how
into it Mahomes is because I know we're not supposed to judge whatever we see on the cameras
and the cameras don't show you everything but every time they show them on the bench
the enemy and Andy are sitting with them and it's just that much more thinking ahead that much
more hey this is what happened like they're they're not taking anything for granted and like you
said they get punched in the mouth early on and then slowly but surely let's start feeling some
things on and they go and they get the win.
So it's they are obviously still the cream of the crop.
And the one,
the one high scoring game that I had higher hopes for was,
was Seahawks Bills.
I mean,
there were a number of good games that we won't get to,
but Seahawks Bills,
that was supposed to be a marquee matchup.
I mean,
the Hawks just played catch up and Buffalo learned to play with a lead.
And they blitzed them a lot better and more effectively than they,
the Rams in the second half of that game
they let that big lead up. There was a moment
there where it looked like
Seahawks were going to climb back into it, but it always
felt like a chase game. When you start
every possession, you're like,
they really need points here
and they just keep not getting them, but you really
say, oh, if they could just get some points here,
that was like the entire
game. And
you know, it
was so bad
that all, first off, all Russ's
yardage felt like garbage
time. Garbage. Absolute garbage fantasy stuff.
But it's amazing. But in the first half, I have never seen an offense look
who wasn't trailing like they were trailing and Seattle was just conceding chunks of yardage.
It was like people were running around uncontested catching the ball in the middle of
field, you know, jukeing around and then just eventually getting down because nobody
tackles them. Like they were, the bills were in their two minute mode and the Seahawks had the urgency
of a team that had a three touchdown lead on defense and nobody was getting home in pass rush.
Josh Allen was baking, you know, I called him a roller coaster on meth earlier. He was Walter
White in the pocket, baking meth. He had all day. Tucco was outside. Tucco Salamante, was that his
name Salamanco? Calvary, do you remember that show Breaking Bad?
Cowboy Reed's never seen Breaking Bad.
Yeah, Tucco is the guy's name.
I can't remember his last name.
But, I mean, like, it was too late when they figured it out.
It was too late when they figured it out.
No doubt.
Buffalo needed this win.
They needed this one.
You're seeing now all the wins and all that stuff.
First time since 93, first time since 92.
We know those were the glory days, you know, the Super Bowls, all the losses.
But, I mean, I mean, I was growing up there and then.
Those those bills teams were awesome.
And I'm happy for obviously Bill's Mafia, even though they can't go to the games,
they got something to freaking chair about.
And they're legit.
If Josh plays like he did today where he's taking care of the football,
and I think they're fine on the night.
I said it last week, I think Zach Moss is stepping into a serious role right there.
That guy ran like nobody in college football last year at Utah.
I love the way how hard he runs.
Saw the big screen today he caught.
So there's, there's not.
I mean, Diggs has been awesome for them.
He, I mean, he really has.
I thought there was going to be a little, um, to do there and a little, um, maturing process.
Just seeing how he treated cousins and knowing how.
Well, he just, he just likes who he likes.
Yeah, exactly.
So, but I mean, hey, but more power to the bills, man, for just going out and saying,
you know what?
We got to get Josh somebody.
and they got that guy.
So good for them.
How about the irony that's almost unfair
that the year the arc bends
towards the Buffalo Bills and the Buffalo Bills,
the Bills Mafia cannot go to the games.
And then in the division...
You can't throw things on the field.
Yeah, I mean, you can't throw things on the field.
You can't throw dildos on the field.
You can't throw children through...
You can't throw beers at our buses.
You can't throw children through plastic tape.
and then on the other side of division the fans that really need to be tested they get an excuse
for not going to watch you know cam newton flounder in the rain or you know like it's just so we don't
we don't get to find out who's fair weather and who's who's not on the other side and then the
the the bills fans don't get to enjoy it yeah that's a great point i mean yeah josh allen
got rolling and uh you know six different receivers first five minutes 11 is first 12 23 of his first 25
plays under center were passes 24 or 28 for 282 and 3 touchdowns in the first half.
Daible outcoached Ken Norton, Pete Carroll, whoever you, any coach over there,
these guys outcoached them. And you know what? Seattle missed some opportunities early.
If you remember that Alan got ran out of bounds, that would have made it third and goal,
horse collar 14-0. And then, you know, Russ has to throw a pick on,
on fourth and goal as well.
So that could have been, you know, 14-7.
But to be, to be honest, they got lucky it wasn't worse.
I mean, the score that made it 17-7,
there was a huge miss pre-snap call on the right side.
Seattle got lucky there.
That touchdown shouldn't have stood.
And then a late drive, they got points on.
Hughes extended it with a, with kind of a bogus late hit.
So that's another score they got lucky on.
And then lastly, they were able to stay in the game because that Gabriel play wasn't short of the pylon.
And McDormant was afraid to throw the flag.
They talked about it on the show.
He hasn't won many challenges.
So not the Seahawks Day, but also they didn't deserve it.
They just didn't deserve it.
And Russ was just making mistakes again that he can't afford to make.
And he's probably not the frontrunner in the MVP race.
I mean, some people will tell you he lost it as soon as you threw this couple picks against Arizona
because the cushion wasn't big and enough with him and Aaron.
But I don't know.
I'll tell you one thing that you never see is that hit Klein got out of man, and he stripped
them.
That you never see Russ get hit like that, man.
And it was, you know, the picked at Tradavius that you don't ever see him force the ball like
that, but it just shows that, you know, he was feeling it.
And in a year, like he said, where he had such a big lead for the, you know, MVP and how
everybody wants to talk MVP.
It's pretty eye open.
You put it in the past tense. You said he had such a big lead.
The train is moving on, dude.
The train is moving on.
No, I'm not.
Russ is still Russ.
No, Russ is the man.
And it really doesn't matter because it hasn't mattered to me that he hasn't gotten a vote yet.
It has like these are awards that we like to argue over.
I just think it's interesting how we ride this wave.
Now, here's the reason you got to be nervous about the Hawks.
And again, I haven't to remind you.
I haven't been in this Super Bowl losing to a,
Steelers in the Detroit Super Bowl rematch from my college days when I watched Big Ben go like
nine for 13 for 101 yards and like two picks and and win a Super Bowl.
I think the problem with the Hawks and I still believe they can do it is that it's like
you talked about Steph Curry and Mahomes.
They're a three point shooting team.
They get cold.
Yeah.
So like for them to take those incremental steps through the playoffs and end up with a
Super Bowl, they can't get cold for a day.
Now, I believe in
Russ. That's why I picked them, but
you know, the defense is rough. I do
think Dunlap's going to help. I mean, he had a great
rush, you know, bull rush
for a sack that should have took points off the board
if they didn't shit down their leg.
And then also a nice TFL.
Their best pass rushers probably Jamal Adams, though.
Guy's good, dude.
Yeah.
Guy just ran by a tight end today. Like, no gimmicks.
He was a Jet's best pass rusher last year.
That's for sure. Yeah. So, I mean, I
think there was something too like in the second half they blitzed like 65% of the time
uh as opposed to their usual which is much less of course they're chasing but they figured
some things out they started sacking them uh jaron reed had a nice game so i there's something to
build on there i don't think you i don't think you sell the farm with uh with the hawks but uh
but they got to play better obviously so um big one next week at uh at the rams yeah yeah that's a big
game. That seems way more competitive than I would have thought a few weeks ago.
So you watched a lot of Baltimore indie. I just want to say this, man, this was a big win for
the Ravens. They survived. This would have felt like the bottom fell out, particularly because
the Colts aren't considered an elite team. But I heard, and Mina, who I love, Mina Combs, who I
got to have her on the show and argue this point with her, this is not a narrative killing.
this is not a narrative killing win in my in my estimation
you know whether it's the comeback thing or you know
not beating a contender lately this is not a contender
we make fun of the Colts every weekend we don't then just get to like
crown the Colts to uplift the Ravens like
at least in my opinion I have not I have not been sold on the Colts
yes the defense is very good but beating them and overcoming a three point
deficit of halftime wasn't it
I mean, first off, just to recount, the Ravens lost the Chiefs twice.
And by no means am I saying I would want to play the Ravens in a football game down the stretch.
I mean, it wouldn't be my first choice.
But we're talking about beating the elites here.
Lost the Chiefs twice the last year and a half.
Steelers, they haven't played well against the Titans.
And they just beat the Colts.
They had a three-point deficit at the half.
That's Lamar's first deficit.
He's overcoming the second half.
You know, like, that doesn't do it for me.
and you know this is their 30th straight game that they scored in the 20s
it took the defense to do that it took the defense to do it
I mean they were actually held scoreless in the first half the first time
since the Chargers game two years ago they uh that that fumble return was a huge
huge uh play because it was that close they ruled it a fumble so therefore it had
the benefit of staying uh the coach were you know had good field position
right there, as you saw with how long the fumble return was.
I will say this about Baltimore that I was pretty impressed that he just stayed with it.
They stayed with the run.
I mean, everybody was making a big deal in the first half about how, you know,
something doesn't look right.
Lamar's not throwing a ball, whatever.
Colts got a good defense, man.
Like, you can't come out and go up 14-0 in every game.
I really, this is the other thing.
this is their, I mean, they smoked Cleveland to start the year, but we didn't think anything of it.
I guess that's a lot better win than it was when we first saw it.
But this is their best win.
This is on the road.
No doubt.
This is against the Colts.
And this is what we talked about on Friday, on your gambling pod, was neither of these team had a good win.
So that's why we didn't know what to think of these teams.
You know, we saw in Baltimore, stepped up against Pittsburgh in Kansas City.
You know, they didn't have it.
They didn't play well in either game.
You got to play well when you get to these stages
and you get to these quality of teams.
Today, they hung with it.
They didn't come out well.
And Lamar stayed with it.
The defense rallied around a bunch of stuff,
not having Humphrey, which is huge.
But I was happy to see they didn't get all out of whack
and start panicking.
They just stayed with their game plan and they did that.
And that's what I think of when I think of John Harbaugh.
Listen, again, playoff team, dangerous team.
don't want to see them, love Lamar Jackson,
just don't think this was the win that is going to get,
you know, it's going to kill the narrative of,
we need to see more on a big, you know, against the good teams,
and we need to see more in certain dimensions of the offense.
Hey, this was a desperate win, you know,
Hollywood was mad on Twitter.
You had two-o-linmen out, you know,
including one of the best in the league.
You know, you had Humphrey, as you mentioned out.
And Lamar doesn't usually play well after a bad game.
he doesn't rebound well.
So this was a desperation game.
And in the second half, Lamar balled out, 10 for 10.
But, you know, it's just the body of work over 60 minutes.
The tough thing about being Lamar is you are that team's rushing offense and you're
their throwing offense.
So no matter what happens, you get the blame and the praise, you know, no matter what
happens.
And that's the way it is.
That's the reality.
So if the offense isn't functioning at a Super Bowl win,
level, people are going to ask questions.
And the Colts defense
is very good. And they were not afraid of the
Ravens. Ask Justin Houston what he thinks.
Justin Houston, if he heard this, would probably agree.
I didn't say it. Justin Houston
said it. I just watched a little miced-up
thing when he was breaking down the team before the
he had some colorful words for the Ravens.
I don't agree with everything he said.
As far as like that he insinuated it, there was a
toughness deficit. I wouldn't say that to the Ravens.
That's a tough fucking football team.
But he basically called him frontrunners.
They do not. They get punched
him out and you could feel this was one of my favorite things watching the game darius leonard the
heartbeat of that team you could feel him making this personal for the defense and for him and of any game
that was one-on-one today i know there's a lot flashier matchups but that dude standing in the middle of the field
that has about 300 tackles a year with you know 80 inch arms like yeah and and the dude uh and the dude under
center who's scary as hell
that was a lot of fun.
There were plays in the first half
where I haven't seen Darius Leonard that excited
in his whole career.
I mean, that fourth and four, he's juiced.
Yeah.
You know, and Lamar just started slow.
The Colts offense couldn't put him away.
That was the problem.
They're up seven-eth and early.
That's what I'm saying?
That drive on the turnover fumble return was huge.
Huge, a mound killer.
Because like you said, you're in that threshold right there again.
You go up two scores on the Ravens,
then they might start pressing.
But that touchdown even things out,
and they were able to keep it one score,
you know, while they still figured things out.
Huge, I didn't want to say,
huge stretch here for the Ravens.
They get this win.
Now they're at New England.
Then they get Tennessee,
and then they're at Pittsburgh on Thanksgiving night.
Big, big stretch for the Ravens.
And I actually think,
I feel like they're going to play better against Tennessee this year.
It's a better matchup for them.
I will say this.
Marcus Peters, that trade,
it's like every week I have to,
I should mention that it's really paid off.
I mean,
you talk about two huge plays today.
We mentioned the fumble on Jonathan Taylor run,
which he snatched the ball out.
That's all him because he's not really into tackling,
tackling,
he wants to get the ball out,
if you know what I mean.
But also that,
that pick,
which I didn't think was a pick,
I mean,
was enormous.
I mean,
that's the game right there.
That is the,
game right there because that led to points and honestly it wasn't until that pick and subsequent
score that the Colts stopped playing like bullies on defense and I've been on a defense like that
where we know the offense isn't going to necessarily have our backs all the time but we can play
like bullies and as long as they're in phase and not turning the ball over nobody can fuck with us
that's the way that defense felt today and you know the first one was forgivable
rookie dropped the ball freak play the second one
you know, it was just like,
God damn, dude, we're doing everything we can.
There's no margin for error.
It's almost too much to overcome.
You can see them being deflated.
But Lamar, third down, not good enough.
That's what you've got to look at.
Four to seven yards,
0 for two, and seven plus one for four.
They're just going to have to make those plays.
You know, and when the run game dries up,
you saw what happened in the first half.
You mentioned Tennessee and Pittsburgh coming up.
So,
that was a fun day.
Not for me personally,
football fan objectively.
And it rages on right now in real time.
28-0-0.
It's like, what the fuck.
You know what the bucks need to do is score three points to take it to the half?
28-3.
Hey, one question before I let you go, Steve.
What did you think of the Kyle Allen injury?
Do you think that was dirty by peppers?
Was it peppers?
It wasn't clean.
Yeah.
What do you think?
When I say dirty, I think of like intent to injure.
I understand.
You know, like this was, this is a,
this is a no-no.
Like, you know what, though?
We're going to wake up tomorrow and everybody's going to be really upset.
And gosh, it is so fucking unfortunate to get hurt that way.
I don't think he meant to hurt him.
I think sometimes it could be instinctive to kick your leg out there and just try to get
somebody down.
I've tried to wrangle.
When you're trying to get a sack, you try to wrangle people down.
But that was a bit of a kick.
You know, that wasn't such a trip.
That was more of a kick.
And I've never seen anybody.
get kicked and it looked that bad.
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So to a, to a degree, it was a, it was a what the fuck like moment if you're Kyle
Allen, you get up.
But the fact that his season is over, presumably because of that, that's what sucks.
Yep.
That's the kicker, no doubt.
But we've also seen O. Lyman do it for 50 years and nobody's ever bad at an eye.
Correct.
So, with you there.
I don't know.
That was a tough one to see.
Steve, appreciate you.
Hopefully I'll be in a better mood next time.
Hey, did you get a, did you get a lot of, I wanted to cheer you up?
Did you get a Liberty VOTX score yesterday?
I did get a Liberty Virginia Tech score.
The Flames, the Liberty Flames, they're having a weekend.
Also, my fantasy football team, the Liberty Cuckolds are,
uh, are up right now.
So that's good Liberty vibes all around.
So, um, very good, good, good Liberty vibes all around.
So, um, very good,
Good. All right. We'll get Stanford Steve back in two weekends. He's got something to do.
And I hope to catch you soon, bud.
All right. Thanks, man.
Checking the forecast here in Charlottesville, Virginia at 10.03, 10.03 p.m. Sunday night.
And we have...
This is going to be a wind joke.
86% humidity. I don't know if that's good or bad.
Northwest, one mile per hour is the wind.
There is zero threat of losing our beloved Makin Gunner during the podcast.
Make.
Is it windy over there?
No, it's not.
Hey, Chris, not Wendy at all.
Back to you.
Who was the guy from Family Guy?
The weather guy.
Ali, maybe Ali Williams, Ollie Williams, maybe.
Ollie, yep, Ollie.
Good to have you back with us on Sunday night, sir.
Hey, good to have you in my living room as we approach midnight on a Sunday when everyone should be sleeping, getting ready for a week.
Let's do best flight right off the bat.
I'm going to go Miami Dolphins.
That's got to be fun because the Arizona Cardinals are the Miami Dolphins, what, two years.
down the road. They're supposed to be the potential contender this year. They were looking at
six and two at home. The dolphins coming to town. No Miles Gaskin. Preston Williams goes out,
but Miami gets it done to a solid 20 of 28 and all of a sudden we were we were sad for
fits, and rightfully so, but dolphins go home five and three and
playoff bound
I guess it's like
it's like
it's like B-flow knew something
it's pretty impressive
the kid did enough to win
I mean they you know
I was talking with Steve earlier
they did spot them that score
on defense but
Tua looks to be the real deal
and the point you make is great
I mean they're fucking two
two years ahead of schedule
I mean it's wild
gosh they got it going
that's got it does have to be a fun flight
because that flight was going to suck
had they lost.
Long way.
Losing time.
I'm going to go
Best Flight.
Can I do a bus ride?
Please.
I didn't watch the game
because I don't watch
AA football,
but I'm going to go
Best Bus Ride, Liberty Flames,
big win for them.
Congratulations.
It evens out
the big loss this week
for you guys,
but presumably.
Well, they have a
They have a couple fearless leaders.
Mr. Falwell Jr.
Took a tumble.
Yeah.
And you know what?
Yeah.
The ball club, let's stick with it right there.
Let me just tell you a little bit about it.
59-yard field goal to win it is blocked.
Tech takes it home to win the game.
Nah, they had called a timeout right before the field goal attempt.
Liberty then throws an eight-yard out.
It's now 51 yarder to win it.
The guy kicks it and makes it.
Just an all-time loss for the Hokies.
And I...
Holy shit, dude.
Actually, I did see a little blip of that field goal.
And my heart nearly stopped because all the people on the radio were like,
and that's why they call it Beamer Ball.
We've seen it a thousand times before.
Oh, no, there's a zebra waving his hands.
No.
You guys got your dick's all hard because you think it's 2004.
It's not 2004 anymore.
Yeah, Coach Beamer retired.
It's now Fwente ball.
No disrespect to anybody, but you know I have to be pretty excited when the Liberty Flames beat the Hokies
and they had the best bus ride of the week.
My worst plane ride, Chris, goes to the New York Giants, 2320 winners over the football team.
Gosh darn it.
I get texts from a couple of Giants fans every Sunday, and they're like,
like, go blue, go blue. And it's like, do you really, do you really want them to go?
Right. I play along sometimes. But in reality, I'd like to have that quarterback at the top of
the draft. This is a second straight year that the Washington football team is screwing up a draft
position. Last year, could be any number of guys, could be a Justin Herbert, but probably was
going to be a Chase Young at number two, which would have been nice. And at one in eight, you would have
been in a good spot to contend for number one overall to get Trevor Lawrence this year.
But two and seven, you're just a cut above.
Dimes goes to four and O against Washington, one in 17 against everybody else.
If he only plays teams without names, right, right.
He can't be beat.
He can't be beat.
And he's clearly just, he's not, he's not the guy.
He's not the guy for two decades.
like some of these teams, it looks like they might have.
And what Kyler Murray's doing is he putting heat on people to find that guy,
like no matter when it is and who your guy was a year ago.
You know, it's like one of those things.
You can't be attached to somebody because you made a bad decision.
And I got done against Danny Dimes.
It's just like, how much more do you have to see?
And it sucks because I don't think he's, he's kind of tantalizing.
If he just wouldn't throw the ball to the other team.
or just cough it up indiscriminately.
I could be making the same, you know, comments about number 11 in Philly,
but number 11 in Philly has an MVP season under his belt
and, you know, accolades out the ass his first five years.
It's, you got to cut your, cut your losses at some point.
Yeah, that's a good, that's a good one for the Giants.
Very counterintuitive, nice.
Dimes is handing off to Wayne Gallman and Alfred Morris
and his top receiver was a guy I've never heard of,
Austin Macs. So he's not playing with a full deck.
No, he's not. I'm not saying it should be over for him in the league, but I'm just saying
if you're the Giants and you're picking at the top of the draft, you have to do what you've got
do for the football team. I think Dimes has potential. But do the Giants have the time as an
organization to, I mean, like the perfect situation for him would be hiding behind somebody
for four or five years and playing the long game and learning and that sort of thing.
He's one of those quarterbacks.
I'm afraid that he gets turnover out of the league
and his confidence is shot
because people on podcasts like ours
are writing them off for Trevor Lawrence
like halfway through the season in his second year.
I also saw him go 0 and 3 against Virginia
and throw nine picks to three touchdown.
So you're saying this isn't something new.
Nah, I've been watching this a long time.
Viewing party, you got anybody?
Yeah.
I know.
I don't.
That's okay.
Viewing party.
You in your fucking sunroom, not thinking of a viewing party.
But you have been patient with me tonight.
I had to think of a couple of these on the spot as you called in.
Hey, I'll go Midwesterners in general.
What a roller coaster weekend it has been for some people.
I don't know what your political affiliation is, state to state, county to county.
But, I mean, it's probably no matter who you are.
you're exhausted by Saturday night.
And if you're a Notre Dame fan,
you finally don't piss down your leg on the big stage.
Tampa's about to go in for the first score.
Thank you very much.
The comeback begins.
I jinx that too, didn't I?
What is your clock read?
My clock reads 10.14 p.m.
Oh, I meant left to go in the game.
9.34 left to go in the game.
And it is now fourth end goal.
Wow.
You are like 30 seconds of game time ahead of me.
Yeah, I got direct TV here at the office.
Like Notre Dame fans for the first time not pissing down their leg in a big spot,
you know, that was an exciting game.
Ian Book was exciting.
He was really decisive.
I was impressed with the kid.
I don't watch a lot of Notre Dame.
I haven't been watching college football that much this year.
That kid was awesome late in that ball game.
And boy, oh boy, that Clemson, I mean, the rich get richer.
That fucking guy is going to be fun to watch as well.
But if you're a Notre Dame fan, maybe you live.
in Chicago, you're happy drunk Saturday night, and today you were upset drunk. I mean,
like that offensive performance, I didn't even have to watch it. I was just reading the timeline.
Not going to lie to you, haven't watched that game end-to-end. It sounds terrible, and people are
ready to run naggy out of town. What a 24-hour swing for a Midwestern football fan in the greater
Chicago area. Whoever you are, you were exhausted going to the game Saturday night, and that roller coaster
did not stop.
Had to be some interesting middle age,
like cohabitating with middle age drunk males
in the Chicago area this weekend.
And I happen to know that South Bend is in Indiana, Chris.
And it was like 7 o'clock in four seconds.
It's like, hey, welcome to our election coverage.
And we could now call the great state of Indiana for Donald Trump.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, like, all right, some of these things are givens.
I didn't realize Indiana was quite like that.
You're like, who wants to be perpetually ashamed of themselves?
Do we do?
We did the clan.
Remember we did the clan?
Welcome.
We have Walda Walker and Indiana has been called for Donald Trump.
Stop the vote.
That's what I was saying.
I need to see those votes.
Well, that had to be an interesting.
weekend for a lot of people in that region of the country. No matter what your political affiliation is,
usually if you're a Bears fan, I suppose you lean Notre Dame, not Northwestern. I also motion
for all Chicago dudes to have to adopt Northwestern. It's geographically appropriate.
It's way more appropriate than being a frontrunner, an independent school. It's afraid to play with
the big boys until they have to. Hey,
Fly on the wall.
Well, why don't you start flying the wall?
Gerald Wayne Jones is the owner of the Dallas Cowboys.
And I would have loved to hear that conversation between Gerald, his son, Stephen,
presumably his other son, Stephen, grandson, Stephen, Jerry.
There are just lots of Joneses in that suite.
I bet they talked themselves into Garrett Gilbert by quarter one.
maybe maybe to make themselves feel better about potentially not paying deck prescott
which of course now it looks like you should probably be paying deck prescott but garrick gilbert
looks decent and is being the pittsburgh steelers as you've talked about in great detail for a long
time and I just bet they were talking themselves into pretzels about how they've uncovered the
latest I don't know they probably went as far back and as creative as Tony Romo perhaps oh man man
that had to be interesting to ease drop on that conversation you know I think uh I think people
are looking at it's funny when we didn't pay the historically productive guy under center
but I think we're out of the woods now boys did you see you see this fucking guy out
here? He's beating the undefeated
Steelers. I mean, I
don't doubt that those are the type
of conversations that are happening.
I like how you started in the Jerry
voice and then you're standing halfway
through. Yeah, I don't do voices for that
long. I just,
man, I wonder
what they were saying. I wonder if anybody,
listen, kudos to that kid. I remember in
the pregame, I was, I had on
NFL network for a second.
And they were really
making fun of this kid kind of, without
shitting on him. They weren't explicitly shitting on him. They were just kind of like,
man, there's going to be the ugliest game ever. I know that Steelers play down, but this kid
played in the witch league. I guess he played in the AAF. And Mooch was trying to explain to him that
he was pretty good in AAF. And all the people on set were laughing because in the AAF, there's like
a rule where you can only blitz on a certain percentage of the plays. And they're like,
good luck with Pittsburgh Steelers. But the kid wasn't bad, dude. He really wasn't bad. And I think
that says more about the Steelers right now, underperforming on D.E.
defense than the Cowboys.
I read some quote today.
Spurrier said the only difference between Garrett Gilbert and Nick Foles is one of
them's making millions, others making 70 grand when he coached them and whatever
this was.
Do you know who drafted young, not so young, Garrett Gilbert?
Whom's?
The 2014 St. Louis Rams.
Are you serious?
Yeah, bro.
I'm serious.
He's 29.
He was drafted by your club in 2014 and the sixth round.
God.
I got to see a picture of his face.
That's fucked up.
You know,
that's the second time today that I said
I didn't know who it was.
I'll remember him when I see his face.
Were you just waiting and waiting for that?
No, I just saw it.
Oh, yeah, this kid's awesome.
Yeah, you remember him.
He's just a really nice kid.
I didn't talk to him much.
Get my stuff, rookie.
Nah, that wasn't it.
I guess he was getting Sam Bradford stuff.
How long did he, was he with us there?
One year.
And we've got an asterisk that says offseason and or practice squad member only.
So you probably didn't even talk to those guys.
Well, that wasn't it.
I just tragically, my career went down the shitter, the first game of that season.
I wasn't in the building a lot.
So that probably had something to do with it.
Until the end of the year, when they drugged me up to limp me around and devalue.
my earning potential in the next go-round of man you had a rough go of it the rookie rookie uh
whatever that obscene amount of money you got paid before they changed the rules well uh
that number that number looks a little bit different now after tonight oh does it sorry sorry
for your loss yeah there's going to be a lot of budget cuts around the the studios
Hey, sorry about those donuts, by the way.
Have you cleaned up those sprinkles?
They're still in the fucking trash, dude.
I couldn't even lie.
I got donuts today for the kids and I.
And I couldn't,
I could barely look at the donuts.
It's like I had PTSD from the other donuts.
Well, those are some,
some fortunate donuts,
not to have spent time on a bench or in a rug.
Yeah, shout out to Garrett Gilbert,
my sincere apologies.
I said to Steve earlier,
I didn't even catch the guy's name because I watched the game with the sound off,
prepping for the pod.
And I didn't have his name handy during the main body of this podcast.
Now I do, and I'm ashamed to myself.
Teammates for life, we're family.
Forever.
I never said that.
I never said that.
I love Garrett Gilbert.
We're going to be there for the birthday.
of each other's children and
run our podcast and forget each other
you know what though
if Gary Gilbert anybody listens
podcast and knows him and he hears
about this he'll probably be like yeah I don't really
know that motherfucker well either he was washed
up by the time I got there
who exactly
fly on the wall
hey if anybody saw the Georgia game
this weekend I've never seen such a morbid
injury have to get reviewed
like what do you do in the booth?
I don't know if you saw that.
Cowboy Reed, if you saw that,
I mean, his leg was like sideways
and they had to go to a booth review at the goal line
to see if he got in.
And the guys on CBS were like,
we don't need to see this,
and they kept showing it,
and kept showing it,
and kept showing it.
And then they were like,
we're going to stop showing this now.
And there was a three minute break
and they were like coming out of commercials.
Like, one more time,
this is the play that's under,
What the fuck, dude?
I just say if there's an injury and a guy's out for the season and gets a first down or a touchdown,
you don't review it.
You just give it to him.
When in doubt, give him the touchdown or give him the first down.
You don't even question the fucking play.
If they had reversed that play, that would have been disgusting.
Well, the guy in the production truck, to your point, needs to say,
Hey, his legs sideways.
Play-by-play guy.
tell the people we're not going to show it anymore because it's disgusting and um or you go the
dac route which uh was nifty when they pixelated it as the day went on so you didn't have to
look at it oh yeah yeah yeah they did uh they did the uh the thing yeah word
dicks or compound fractures that's pretty much what what gets pixelated i um listen i i thought
they showed that one too many times during the game.
You know, and Tony thought it was a cramp.
Tony was like, hopefully it's just a cramp.
I was like, yeah, Tony, I don't think it's a cramp, bud.
Like, don't think so at all.
I'm really, it's one of my pet peeves is watching that stuff.
I know everybody has that pet peeve,
but there's just no need to even replay it once at all.
So I'm wondering what the fuck they were thinking over the weekend in that Georgia game.
St. Louis Memorial Award
I'm going to go
well it's not the St. Louis Memorial Award anymore
it's the Frank Gore Love of the Game Award
sponsored by the St. Louis Rams
the home of
Garrett Gilbert and Chris Long
Inextricably
linked forever
Gosh
when he was making the throws
I felt like I was making the throws
A practice team dudes
in theory they're at practice, right?
Yeah.
But they're also in meetings and at lunch and all sorts of things.
But the problem was, and I'm not making excuses.
Now I do, you know me.
I would tell you if I don't remember him because I just cut this.
If I didn't remember him, I didn't want to embarrass him.
Not that he'd embarrass him.
I don't remember him.
But like, you know, it's weird for some people to think that you could be on the team
with somebody and not remember somebody.
I play with a bunch of guys I don't remember.
You know, like there's a hundred guys on every team.
to start the season.
It's like an army of people
and the older you are,
you just don't know some of the young guys.
And then to make matters worse,
if you're in St. Louis,
the roster turns over every single week.
So here's what probably happened.
Quarterback, other side of the building.
I don't really talk to young quarterbacks anyways.
Yeah.
And then, yeah, right.
And then, oh, God,
I was a captain that year.
and then here's the problem
as soon as the roster gets cut
down to 53 you start meeting people
you start meeting some of the young guys
starting to have conversation with them
they stay in like kind of a rookie click a little bit
like they eat lunch together
that sort of thing like if you're in the position group
with a rookie and I'm just giving people
a little background here
if you're in a position group with a rookie
like you get to know that rookie
if you're that kind of vet
and I like to talk to the rookies in the room
but outside the room you don't really talk
to some of the guys
especially the guys who weren't drafted
because you just don't know.
Like you talk to them in the hall.
It's not like you avoid them,
but you just don't know how long people are going to be here,
that sort of thing.
Then it comes time for the roster cut down.
And then the building empties by half,
so guys start to intermingle and that sort of thing
and eat lunch and dinner and there's a million meals
and people are in the building longer.
That was the year I got hurt the first game.
So I probably never got a chance to meet one of my all-time heroes,
Garrett Gilbert.
One last shout out.
The quarterback room that year, dudes who threw passes, Austin Davis and Sean Hill.
And then, of course, Johnny Hecker went two for two.
Hecker two for two against the Seahawks, possibly?
Possibly, but no Sam to ram either.
Well, Sam got hurt against the Cleveland Browns preseason game, ACL, man.
That was one of the worst nights of my professional life.
What a downer.
Let me give this award out.
Love of the Game Award, Frank Gore.
Dalvin Cook, step right up.
You're going to be getting so many of these.
You're going to fill up your home office.
I'm going to just send, like, I'm going to send him a 40-pound package.
We don't actually make awards, like physically for anybody,
but I'm going to send Cowboy Reed, write a note down.
We got to physically make eight copies of the Frank Gore Love of the Game Award
because Dalvin Cook's going to win every fucking week
and just FedEx it to him ground.
at the end of the year.
Ground.
He's going to be like,
yeah, you're right?
He's going to be like,
what the fuck?
What is this?
What is this beat up box?
A bunch of shit's clanking around.
What should the trophies look like?
You know what?
Make, I'm getting these done.
You know who makes trophies around here?
You know anybody that makes trophies around here locally?
Yeah, because when I went a fantasy league,
I get a made for myself.
Well, fantasy team is comfortable.
winning their third game of the season right now, by the way.
Congratulations.
Shout out to the cucks.
I'm not going on any billboards.
By the way, I think I'm up 5-1 and Thursday Night Time Machine.
That's great.
I'm definitely going to the Waffle House.
Hey, 24 hours in the Waffle House, a quick reminder for everybody,
the loser of Thursday Night Time Machine is headed there at the end of the season.
Dalvin Cook, he's the kid at the boardwalk, like who's too big to play the games and just
definitely too big to play this game.
You know, like everybody else who has a good game on an obscure team,
I apologize,
Dalvin's in line again every week.
Sorry.
Scurdy Terry McLaurin is my Frank Gore Award winner for the week.
The trophy can go to your guy,
but Scary Terry is seven for 115 in a touchdown,
seventh in the league with 692 receiving yards.
That dude is awesome,
and he's catching passes from no disrespect,
Dwayne Haskins,
Kyle Allen,
and Alex Smith.
scary Terry
good by you
I love scary Terry
had no idea
who was 25 years old
yeah
well what'd you think
I thought possibly a bit younger
I mean it's the second year
in the league
also
oh
move the chains
31 nothing
Tampa's driving
18 minutes to go
in this ball game
anything can happen
anything can happen
60 minute game
so what's
it like being a ghost ghost are dead
I'm very much alive
Hollow Man
Hollow Man is going to go to me
for
Betton Buck's Money Line
I just want to disappear I want to sink out of this chair
laptop hits the ground the whole nine yards
and I don't know where I want to go when I disappear
but I don't want to be here
I just don't want to be here
Hollow Man
I wish I could turn into Kevin Bacon right now
Hey, Tom Brady's about to get sacked on fourth and seven.
He's just throwing the ball across his fucking body.
It's pitch and catch.
Malcolm Jenkins.
Oh, my gosh.
I'm 30 seconds behind looking at cartoons of Matt Ryan.
Well, let's give out a game ball here.
Game ball.
I'm going to go JJ Watt.
100 sacks, one of the fastest players in NFL history to get there.
Hall of Famer.
And somebody who has been fun to watch for a lot of years.
18 sacks, those kind of years were like an absurd certainty.
He's not really an interior player per se,
because he's done most of his damage
as far as attaining that achievement
from the left side at left end,
but he can rush all over.
Aaron Donald's right behind him
with a chance to be in that conversation
for fast stever to 100 sacks.
100 sacks is a big deal.
I mean, it's something guys think about,
all great pass rushers, think about,
that number, triple digits, and he's done it being pretty disruptive in the run game as well.
And lately he hasn't been the same guy, and that's okay, dude. I mean, he's older and he's had
a number of operations and he's, you know, he's missed some time. He keeps getting back up off
the mat and back stuff is hard, man. You could see it sometimes that he doesn't have the same burst,
but fuck he's still a force
and to get his 100s sack late in that game
it felt like it took a couple weeks
and I'm sure it was looming large for him
pretty cool
the only thing that sucks about it is
it was kind of a game that nobody was watching
but either way
I tip my cap to him
and I hope he's got three to five
to seven more years in him
if he does or if he doesn't
a hundred is a hell
of an accomplishment
and maybe it's not in Houston
what do you think is he staying in houston i know he said something this week
about wanting to win and that doesn't seem like it jive well
with that ball club i'm i remain a to sean watson believer so just just get the right
pieces in place from a front office standpoint make it happen you got nice clean unies
uh yeah let's stick it out in houston i think he uh you want to hear something crazy
Let me make sure I get this, I say this cleanly into the microphone
because we're going to be running this back next offseason
if he's on the move.
JJ Watt to the Green Bay Packers.
Wow.
You got a game ball?
Josh Allen, 31 of 38 for 415, four total touchdowns.
31 of 38 is 82% for crying out loud.
I don't care who you're playing.
It was a beleaguered Seattle defense.
which had some dudes back, though.
Eight different receivers.
I had a rushing touchdown.
Bills are seven and two.
Josh Allen, I think it was easy to say,
hmm, that's questionable when he was drafted, what,
seventh-ish, fifth-ish?
And he's really good.
I think that's the bottom line.
I know you liken him to a roller coaster.
while on methamphetamines.
If that's like really good and cool and fun and awesome,
then yeah, you're right,
because the bills are good.
And it's because of him.
They are good.
But I still don't trust them because of the defense.
That hasn't changed.
Josh, though, love watching him play.
All right, cool.
That should do it for us.
my keys just fell
there's a ghost in the fucking studio
my keys just fell off the table for no reason
Dr. Melvin on line one
we need to get Dr. Melvin back
for those of y'all still listening
that
that was the paranormal investigator
that we talked to around Halloween
I think there might be some functionality
for us to have him back within the next seven to ten days
so look out for him later in the week maybe
maybe we could get somebody who works at four seasons total landscaping
there are people i have never yes there are people i have never heard of running with the
football with a lot of space around them tason hills playing quarterback are the bucks the best
team in florida miami dolphins holy shit yeah four seasons how about that between a uh was it a
crematorium and an in an adult video store which i didn't know that
they still had those.
Well, they do have videos at the store, but it's really an adult bookstore, first and foremost.
Who reads, like, what, is that an erotic, not an erotic novel?
Yeah, that's right.
They do, yeah, they do have videos, though, too, and they have, like, live watches, I believe.
Golly Day.
After last, after the Nikki Blazers, you I said I wouldn't put down any of these roads.
Well, this feels like nothing compared to what Nikki was talking.
talking about on here. How afraid were you of like who was listening for 24 hours?
I was fine until people started hollering and I guess it's nice to know that people do listen
to the program. People liked it. But it was also terrifying. I was so scared. I got a lot,
wife alert, wife alert. I got a lot of did your lovely wife Kate listen to that particular
interview? Did your lovely wife Kate listen to that interview? I was like,
A, nah, she's never listened to one of the shows.
And B, what?
What? We didn't, it was.
No, we just, we were really listening.
Yes.
Nobody here, I mean, I've heard of porn.
I just didn't know there were still people reading books about porn and watching videos.
Like, are you watching them on VCR?
All right.
Y'all take care.
