Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Week 9 Review & Gambling Recap. Broncos vs Cowboys, Eagles vs Chargers & Josh Allen vs Josh Allen.

Episode Date: November 8, 2021

(2:20) - Hello, Layup Line, Betting After Midnight and Worst Plane Ride. (12:38) - Denver Broncos at Dallas Cowboys and Fly on the Wall QB Scare. (28:35) - Buffalo Bills at Jacksonville Jaguars, Josh ...Allen vs Josh Allen and Manning Cast Curse. (41:05) - Atlanta Falcons at New Orleans Saints, Hate Week and Game Ball. (50:17) - Cleveland Browns at Cincinnati Bengals, Baker's Resurgence and Bye Week for Cincinnati. (59:45) - Minnesota Vikings at Baltimore Ravens, Lamar is MVP and Life Alert. (1:07:06) - New England Patriots at Carolina Panthers, Manchurian Candidate Theory, Belichick's Drip and JC Jackson is Most Underrated in NFL. (1:10:35) - Las Vegas Raiders at New York Giants and Giants Best Start Since 2016. (1:11:33) - Houston Texans at Miami Dolphins and Chris Demands Refund. (1:13:04) - Green Bay Packers at Kansas City Chiefs, Arizona Cardinals at San Francisco 49ers, LA Chargers at Philadelphia Eagles and Tennessee Titans at LA Rams. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:17 in the third. Javante Williams got two pullers, right? 77 just blows up number 27. Just like 27, that thud where the, it knocks the wind out of you and you're kind of like what the fuck like the game existed in this single play here it was just the broncos were ready to play Dallas wasn't and somewhere Mike nolan smiling watching that play because that looked like the browns game to open last season dr fax you want to do the honors tonight yo shakedown street shake down street which is what
Starting point is 00:02:28 it is the grateful deads what they're their fans where they give out the drugs oh yeah Yeah, it is. It's the street for their roadies. The roadies, yeah. And you told a great story a few pops back about how when we were in college, actually, I was gone and y'all were still there. But like, Nate, your practice got canceled because of a Grateful Dead concert. Al Groh didn't cancel practices over anything.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Over anything. Anything light, tornadoes, tornadoes, nothing. Shakedown Street took over our parking lot. Yeah, so the Grateful Dead canceled to Virginia practice. At that point, I was not a Grateful Dead fan. Fast forward many years. I am a Grateful Dead fan. Find out if I'm a dead head this week on this podcast.
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Starting point is 00:03:42 So that's going to be Wednesday. Tonight we got plenty of NFL to get through. Let me get to layup line. And let's do Love Hurts, huh? Get it? I do get it. Okay, good. I'm glad you do.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Because we just watch Jordan Love. Damn near gets shut out in Kansas City. And we'll talk about that game in a little bit. That's a tough, tough task, a really tough ask of that kid. I don't care how Kansas City's defense has been playing. That's a tough place to win, period. Shame on you, Kansas City, for putting his- This is the one thing I want to talk about off the top.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Shame on you, guys, for putting that boy's mother and literally the, literally the last seat in the stadium. The last seat, dude. You guys should be ashamed. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Yes. You made her walk all the way up there. That is unacceptable. Yeah, dude, that's like an hour at life fitness, getting up, getting up those stairs.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Have you ever done the Stairmaster? Hell yeah, dude. That shit hurts. All the time. Speaking of Outgrown, another outgrown name drop. He used to be on that motherfucker with two heavy chains crossed across him, dude, for an hour straight. And we're not talking about the Stairmaster, like the step ladder is really what a stairmaster
Starting point is 00:05:06 proper is. We're talking about like the 700 pound unit. The heavy duty one with the stairs that just rotate and they don't stop. And you got to keep stepping or else you fall off and injure yourself. I'll grow used to be on that thing with two chains in college punishing himself. Football coaches are sick. They are. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:27 But you know what? It's sick for Kansas City to make Mrs. Love and his girlfriend whose name I don't know. I'm sorry. Neither to Troy Aikman. nobody get mad at me they had to walk all the way up there you could see kansas city from from those seats do you know do you know that the stadiums for some reason is built like an hour from the city which is also an hour from the airport nothing is close in that city you could see the airport
Starting point is 00:05:53 and the fucking city from those seats well a lot of people don't know that giant stadium isn't in new york met life it's in the meadowlands it's in new jersey yeah he's brother for to be I know, but it's New York Giants. Yeah, no, no, you're right about that. I mean, you're right. You're bringing up a good point with the state lines and everything. I'm just saying they fucking poorly laid out that city. The settlers in Kansas City should have put the airport somewhere differently.
Starting point is 00:06:24 When they rolled into town with their wagons, they should have miscalculated that motherfucker, dude. It's an hour from everything. I don't get it, dude. It's not like it's a big metropolitan area where, don't give me. started on the chiefs Kyle who my brother's an employee of they botched the ticket situation and the whole layout of that city is fucked can we get into the podcast can we get in the podcast hey I had a good week and by the way if you're listening to this podcast and you saw yellowstone last night don't tell me anything about it not because I don't I want to avoid spoilers because I don't
Starting point is 00:07:02 care it's one of the worst shows I've ever seen okay if you're excited about you Yellowstone. I think they just had a commercial for that. Like that Western. People were talking about it online. I was like, are we doing this? Yellowstone and, uh, and, and the soccer coach, Ted Lassow. Yeah. By the way, if you were Ted Lassau for Halloween, including shout out to Mike Gaismar. Come on, man. I mean, like there were a million Ted Lassos running around out there. And the show's not good. Neither is Yellowstone. Those are two things I didn't get this year. One thing I did get this week was I stopped betting after midnight this week and my wins were up exponentially
Starting point is 00:07:41 my losses were down exponentially like those 1 a.ms for me are like Carson Wentz end zone heaves like you know what I mean they're just ill-advised don't do it if I can eliminate those for my game I'm Carson Wentz as a gambler like if I could just eliminate those couple throws
Starting point is 00:08:01 I could be as good as anybody in the league You just take those, those, you know how I said this, when Carson Wentz throws an interception, he goes all the way. He's like, he's not a volume interception throw. That's why I got mad at people two weeks ago because I was like, dude, I know it looks like that this game, one of the only nationally televised Colts games, but he's not been throwing a ton of picks. He just throws them all the fucking way when he does.
Starting point is 00:08:27 And that's like me as a gambler. So I eliminated those this week. I'm up on the week. Facts, you had a heartbreaking week. Yeah, and I want to say, I think you're kind of selfish because I hit you up early this morning. I went to sleep, bro. And I go, and I go, dude, dude, hit me with some picks. And what did I tell you?
Starting point is 00:08:49 I said, I'll send them right back. And how convenient the day that you win and I asked for picks, like what's up with that? Well, it wasn't all wins. I don't want to paint an unrealistic picture. You know, everybody's hurting, man. But I did have an interesting parlay. But you know why I went back to bed just to give my excuse in full? Daylight savings, man.
Starting point is 00:09:10 There's no use for it. My kid doesn't know it's daylight savings. Luke was up at, you know, it wasn't even light out yet. Luke was up, dude. So I was up early. And then my lovely wife let me get a nap knowing I'm going to be up late tonight. So that's why I fell asleep and couldn't get you your picks. And I'm sorry, sincerely.
Starting point is 00:09:26 And if I had got those pick, maybe you would have talked me out of picking Minnesota. Well, let's save that for when we get to the game that damn near swung the whole thing will tell people more about your parlay, which when I learned, like usually everybody sends me your parlays. The guys show me your parley's. If you tweet your parlay, I'm not saying it's uninteresting to read 14 teams that aren't going to win. But like after a little bit, I'm like, okay, Nate, I get it.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Like one of these might hit. But today, I kind of scanned it and gave the phone back to read. And then I was like, hold on. Let me see this one more time. Oh my God, you could win 10 grand today. You were literally in range to win 10 grand on a $5 wager. On a $5 wager. So we'll talk about that in a little bit.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I want to give out the worst plane ride. That's going to be to Tulsa. I gave this out like Saturday night. Tulsa, and you might know Tulsa is the team that was playing the Cincinnati Bearcats, the team that was complaining about not being in the top four. and then they can't cover last week against somebody, no disrespect, like a cupcake. And then this week,
Starting point is 00:10:39 they really should have got beat by Tulsa. Tulsa on third and goal, quarterback, around the left side of the line, and basically, I don't know how to put this. He slides. I don't know what the fallout was in the Tulsa media.
Starting point is 00:10:55 But my God, dude, I was like, it was inexplicable. He went to a knee and like the one, he did what Todd Gurley was supposed to do like a year or two ago and Todd Gurley accidentally scored. It looked like the guy for Tulsa was trying to do the smart thing and get down and keep the clock running
Starting point is 00:11:15 and not give the other team the ball back. But he was supposed to score. And to lose a game like that, I feel bad for the kid. Anytime it's something like so bad that my jaw drops, I feel bad for the kid because I'm like, imagine, doing that. You know what I mean? He's a meme forever. Well, he's not a meme forever because
Starting point is 00:11:35 saving grace, Tulsa. And nobody was watching Cincinnati anyways. People were like, okay, they're in a rock fight with Tulsa. I don't think it's going to matter. But that's a bad plane ride getting home. Tulsa, I don't know what kind of plane they're on. Me either. It could be like a frontier airline situation. Yeah. Yeah. They could be like one time I went to to Manhattan, Kansas to help Ron Prince. Remember, Ron Prince? Our guy? Ron Prince went to Kansas State,
Starting point is 00:12:06 and he was the head coach there, and he had me go out and talk to the pass rushers. I'm sure they had a record-breaking year. But the flight into Manhattan, Kansas is 12 minutes long, and you talk to the pilots. Like, they don't need an intercom. It's just open, like you're flying from one island to the next in the Caribbean, you know?
Starting point is 00:12:24 Like, you can hear the, you know, like, what do you? like the creaking of the the the uh the props and stuff how big of the planes not big dude six seven people oh my goodness yeah that's it was bad worst plane ride talsa Dallas Denver this was the best plane ride for me read congratulations to your broncos off the bat yeah broncos big time broncos country broncos country that's all I was thinking about and I had I had them in my parley so I was excited One of the many teams.
Starting point is 00:12:57 I was excited. And the Broncos, listen, the Cowboys were the Mole today. They were the mole. It was obvious, and I didn't see it. I'm learning my lessons slowly but surely. Don't bet the Cowboys money line because it's incomprehensible. I had people text me this morning. Can the Broncos really win?
Starting point is 00:13:14 Like, would you bet the Broncos? And I said, yeah, probably the first half, because I don't know if Dak's going to be rusty, but definitely the Cowboys will cover. I would definitely bet a money line. They're in three of my parley's money line. Well, the whole house of cards came down, and they were the mole. I should have seen it.
Starting point is 00:13:36 But congrats to the Broncos. They were that team today. Broncos playing right home. A little bit of turbulence going to Denver from Dallas, I would imagine. Not fun. You ever been on a really turbulent flight home from a game? Yeah, for sure. How bad?
Starting point is 00:13:51 I forget, but it was in Jacksonville, and it wasn't good. Well, we hit a flock of geese on the way back to St. Louis. Look at you. Yeah, dude. No bullshit. Didn't even tell us that we hit the flock of geese. It was on the descent into St. Louis. There was a big bump where, you know, like bags were off the ground if they weren't secure.
Starting point is 00:14:12 And our flight attendants, you always look at the flight attendants to see if we're good. I don't need to look at the guy next to me. No. He doesn't know. Well, he'll make you panic, if anything. Yeah, for sure. I want the window open on takeoff. like that's going to do anything i want the window open on landing i used to have to shake william hayes
Starting point is 00:14:29 to wake him up to open the window and everything like um but this was different and when we landed i found out we hit a whole flock of canadian geese bro and the and the the pilot thought we lost an engine on the way down one engine but we didn't need it at that point evidently but the pilot said yeah the pilot said that when he hit the uh the flock of geese he thought it could have been a small aircraft. It was like so substantial. He was like, did I just hit a Cessna? How sketchy is that, read? Yeah, that's, that's pretty scary. I don't, I love flying, but stories like that. Yeah, but we didn't need both engines. Right, right. Yeah, totally. That makes sense. Better chance of getting hit by lightning. Safest way to travel. Safeest way to travel statistically,
Starting point is 00:15:16 sure. Yeah, but that plane ride's fun, man. All of a sudden, you're what, five and four? You guys five and four? My goodness, I mean, I've written you guys off. I'm not going to go back on it. I still worry about the top end speed of this sports car here. I like Teddy. I think Teddy's a winner. I love Teddy. I think he's a great guy to piece the team together.
Starting point is 00:15:38 And he's always going to, I feel like you always have a fighting chance with him at quarterback. You absolutely do. He has kept decent teams in games they shouldn't be in for years. And I respect the hell out of Teddy Bridgewater. And they got Judy back and they're running the football. And by the way, it was fun to see Judy on a national stage because everybody's watching the Cowboys. Like usually, well, he's been hurt for most of the year.
Starting point is 00:16:04 I'm not seeing the Broncos in big spots. So this was fun today. See him back. He's a fun guy to watch. Bridgewater played well. The backs played well. Hey, even though they lost, Cowboys defense look, hey, I'll tell you what, they look good.
Starting point is 00:16:18 They have sparks of greatness if they just put a, couple of things together. Well, they were disruptive, okay? 10 tackles for loss, four sacks. Too many missed tackles. But here's the deal. They get gashed. They got gashed for a bunch of yardage.
Starting point is 00:16:33 You know, Michael Parsons had two and a half sacks. Third and six, he's off the ball. For an off the ball linebacker to be able to close distance like that between him and the guard and actually engage him in a real pass rush move, like he turns the guard into a tackle like he's an end. And he damn near steps on this guy's foot, stops his feet, and beats him with like a stutter go. Like he's a real rusher, dude. He's off the ball.
Starting point is 00:17:02 He wins on a game inside. Like this guy is... He's an athlete. But as a team, bro, they just were a little bit all over the place. And listen, Denver's defense showed up to play, okay? Like in every single way. And the team showed up to play in every single way. like so bad that they were up 30 what 30 nothing 30 nothing and then Dallas got a couple garbage
Starting point is 00:17:27 scores and fox went away dude for fox to go away from the game to go away from the Dallas cowboys but the national one o'clock game they went away from it not good not good not good but I mean like I want to give credit to the Broncos I'd love to be a fly on the wall speaking of fly on the wall. Fangio before the game sitting there waiting for the rapid COVID test on Teddy Bridgewater because Drew Locke tested positive for COVID on the... Drew Locke tested positive
Starting point is 00:17:56 Bridgewater was you were worried that he was going to be the close contact so they had him in there like probably in the quietest room in the stadium. I mean just waiting you could probably hear a pin drop in there like who's going to be our quarterback today. Wow and they already had that happen
Starting point is 00:18:11 wasn't that this year or last year? Last year. Kendall Hinton. You were afraid of Kendall Hinton. Somebody asked me this week what happened to the Packers
Starting point is 00:18:21 if another quarterback got COVID or something. I'm like, well, we already crossed this bridge. You remember last year? Like, that was the craziest shit.
Starting point is 00:18:28 And the NFL was just like, we're written. That's why I knew the NFL was serious about this stuff. When they did that and they were like, we're not canceling this game. You're going to get Hinton and the guy from BYU.
Starting point is 00:18:40 It's going to be 12 to nothing. Right? What was it? That line. Tason Hill went to work, bro. Taysam Hill went to work. So I want to be a fly on the wall there. That fly on the wall was on the heels of the rumor Teddy Bridgewater was in,
Starting point is 00:18:56 the Broncos and the Saints were in trade talks to send Teddy back to New Orleans. That's true. Yeah, there was some talk of Teddy going back to New Orleans. And I actually, I love the idea. But like, for Denver, they came out to play. They had two big stops early. Defense showed up, fourth and one in the first half. after the first quarter early.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I think they went for it. Dallas went for it. And Shelby Harris just bench presses Connor Williams. And he's been so underrated there. In fact, today I was like, ah, I forgot that he's still there. Like for a second, if you don't watch a lot of Broncos games,
Starting point is 00:19:29 you forget what a big part of the equation there. He's been for a while in Denver. And then Justin Simmons knifes in and cleans up. I mean, Shelby doesn't get the stat on the play, but Justin Simmons reaps the benefit. And then fourth and two, Jones makes a big play. So big plays off the bat, got quiet in Dallas, and then they go for the jugular.
Starting point is 00:19:52 I think they're up 7-0 and Bridgewater for 44 to Tim Patrick, and it's over digs. And that's the moment where you feel like you get smacked in the fucking face. Like, you know what I mean? Like, when you're at home and you see your best player get a touchdown dropped on his head. You're just like, oh, man, this is, okay, we're like, This is officially not a thing. Because sometimes you go down seven nothing
Starting point is 00:20:16 in the game like that to a team you're not supposed to be down to and you say, oh, we got this. Like we're good. We've been scoring 40 a game. You play that numbers game. Well, even if there are a great defense, we've been putting up four touchdowns on teams like that.
Starting point is 00:20:28 And that was a moment where you were like, damn, dude. And Tim Patrick, by the way, he played a great game. Diggs, two scores early kind of on him. It was just the sound of a shock stadium in there. But the biggest indictment, on where this game was. 12.30 to go in the third. Javonte Williams got two pullers, right?
Starting point is 00:20:51 77 just blows up number 27. Just like 27, that thud where it knocks the wind out of you and you're kind of like, what the fuck? Like, he hits him like that. And I feel bad for, I think it's Hamilton is the kid's name in Dallas. But he rode some public transit today. And he was just riding around that motherfucker. He was like not getting off at any of the stop.
Starting point is 00:21:13 skates too no here was the problem he was in like a four eye or a three and tackle block down and the g pulled so he's in his g-pull scheme and he's fighting pressured you know and he's giving ground to try to widen the play so when he makes contact with williams he's four yards down the field trying to stretch a play out he doesn't get off the fucking bus until 12 yards down the field and you know how that feels, bro. Terrible. You know exactly how that feels in the film room on Monday. In real time, it feels like you get drug 24 yards, bro. If you got, for every yard, it's like dog years. You got to know when to go down. Whoever got drug. I'm not going to say his name because it was, it was like as a D-Lyman, it's a nightmare. And it happened to all of us before Marshawn Lynch.
Starting point is 00:22:04 I wrote him like a cape. I was like a cape. And he was like Zorro for six yards one time at home. The problem is sometimes you can't help. It's when you get on the bus. You know, like, it's not your fault that. I want to interject. I've never had that happen to me. Bro, sometimes, though, somebody has a full head of steam. You come off a block and you end up on their back.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Oh, yeah, yeah. And you leave your feet instead of, like, doing the pull backwards. You got to get a role. This guy was in a bad spot. And you know what you do is you feel like an asshole. But when you get in the film room, he's looking around and you've got digs trying to catch the bus. you got 93 standing around watching the bus you got 19 throwing a shoulder into the bus
Starting point is 00:22:46 like what the fuck is that going to do look back at this play like the the game existed in this single play here it was just it was just the Broncos were ready to play Dallas wasn't and somewhere Mike Nolan smiling watching that play
Starting point is 00:23:02 because that looked like the Browns game to open last season I hate to turn it to coach facts but that's that's another play going on the teach team of what not to do, how not to tackle, like to have all those guys in the frame, it starts off as, okay, this is a decent gain. You have all your defenders, like a lot of them in the frame.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Changing speed. Changing speed, you would think, oh, they're down. Maybe they're ripping at the ball. Maybe this will end up a fumble. No. Nothing. Just shoulders. Eight to nine more yards.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Eight, nine more yards, bro. and making a defense just look like embarrassed. And I know for a coach, that that's probably the worst feeling ever. Like the head coach, the head coach probably looking over like, what the fuck your guy's doing? And then you just, what do you do as a coach? You just yell, which is what most of them do. Just, hey, coach is looking over.
Starting point is 00:24:00 He's seeing me yelling. But that's a good, you know, the thing with Dallas is they had chances to win this game. So I'm not, if I'm Dallas, I'm not discouraged. I'll tell you why in a minute, but like they had chance to win the game. Second half coming out, they're only a couple scores down. With the way they score, you know, they get a sack. They come out kind of rushing with the hair on fire. They get that punt thing, which, you know, like the whole use of the Peter, Peter call.
Starting point is 00:24:24 The whole thing, Peter, Peter, and that's what I'm saying. Stay away, dude. Some of it was bad luck on that play. The ball took a, like, a ridiculous hop right at that kid 25, and he's thinking, do I pick it up? Do I not pick it up? It hits his hand. initially I forgot about the rule.
Starting point is 00:24:41 So anyways, like that turns into a first down, right? Which is ridiculous. And then you have the Javante Williams play that we mentioned earlier. You also get a third and eight that 81 breaks the tackle and ends up with a first down. And then you get like a graphic that says Zique is out. And that's like when you know the game is over. It was just totally deflated. So yeah, I mean, Dax struggled.
Starting point is 00:25:06 He's coming off a calf. and another byproduct of this whole game and the way it came out was, DAC was at the end of the first half, Denver goes in a two-minute drill. That's long. They're a bunch of penalties. You've got half-time.
Starting point is 00:25:18 And then you get an eight-minute drive. So, Dak doesn't see the field for like 40 minutes. And he's got a calf, which I've had a calf injury that no bullshit lasts like a year. Soft tissue, like just constantly tight because calves stay tight. And that's one of the hardest things to do is like stay warm in a game like that.
Starting point is 00:25:37 So honestly, I think Dallas is probably just happy they got out of there without Dak making it worse. They can make this ground up. The Packers lost. You know, he struggled, though. Dak did not look the same. And that doesn't mean it's going to look like this the whole time. It just means that he hadn't played and practiced. It just means that he's a little bit rusty, even throws where he's rolling right.
Starting point is 00:25:58 He was missing today. I mean, this is not DAC. The DAC you saw today is not the DAC you're going to get the rest of the year. It's good they got out of there. Yeah. And for me, I'm worried about the tackling. It seems small now, but we're here in the second half of the season. For people who don't know when you're in season, you don't do a lot of tackling in practice.
Starting point is 00:26:19 And Dallas- Do some tackling this week, buddy. But that play right there is good for one inside run drill on Monday. I get it, but it's just who's going to be the running back? It's not Zeeke. It's like, who are you playing? It's not a real simulation. So that's what scares me
Starting point is 00:26:36 Like is the fact that they're a team You have superstars at that position where Even if you do a drill like that They might get one play Right They might get one play And for someone like Parsons and defenders It's easy to tackle the third
Starting point is 00:26:52 Or fourth string running back And but when you see in games Those type of players missing tackles You're like what the hell's going on? Yeah, no well I mean it's hard to make it up During the season to your point It really is hard to make it up But coaches will think you can make it up on Monday or Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Sorry, they're going to be in pads on Wednesday. You know, like Wednesday is one of those days with the Cowboys. 200 yards rushing here. 200 fucking yards rushing. All those TFLs and all the fancy shit, 200 yards Russian. Like when you come in the building on Wednesday later in the year you go depending on your coach, the first thing you do is what? You check the monitor to see, are we in pads?
Starting point is 00:27:28 Are we in shells? The Cowboys do not need to check the monitor on Wednesday. Those motherfuckers are in pads. Let me tell you this. And they're going to be thumping. Let me tell you this. Even the days we weren't in pads with Del Rio, guess what?
Starting point is 00:27:41 We were bringing pads out for inside run. And depending on how well that drill went, then you take them off. Then you take them off. I bet you that drill went well. It usually did. Oh, and the coaches were so stressed during that drope. So stressed because they want you to take the pads off
Starting point is 00:27:56 because they know it's going to be a hell practice for them. Yep. No, but, you know, I'm not worried about it. credit to Denver. Like, I don't know what it means, but I love it, Reed. That's right. Credit to Denver. And two sacks for Jonathan Cooper. So like, Vaughn leaves,
Starting point is 00:28:12 kid you haven't heard of, steps up, two sacks. That's big. You know, like they play big defensively a little hunger games, a little tribute to Von Miller. Gotta love it. And for Denver,
Starting point is 00:28:24 what I like for them, it's already hard to breathe up there, but when it gets cold, it's extra hard to breathe. It's harsh. So that might be, It might be in the favor coming. It's like harsh on your lungs, bro.
Starting point is 00:28:36 It really is. Hey, another team, another big winner in here, Taylor picked up a win. Jacksonville. What's it feel like, Taylor? It almost doesn't feel real. Do you know, and he like giggled at the end of that thing. Duval. Hey, listen, yeah, and we've got, every time Nate goes on a Jacksonville podcast, the Jags win.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Look at that. We got multiple things at play here. We've got the Manning Cast Curse, which can I tell you? about the Man in Cass curse because this is beautiful. Wait, wait, what's the curse? Okay, there's multiple things tonight that he walked in and had no idea. I've been on the farm all week. Okay, he's been on the farm.
Starting point is 00:29:13 We killed 3,800 turkeys this week. You can't just say it like that, dude. What do you mean? No, you're right. It's exactly what you did. You killed the fuck out of the turkeys and we'll all be eating turkey on Thanksgiving. But isn't it funny that we kind of have to think about how we say killed the turkeys that we're all going to be eating? No.
Starting point is 00:29:30 but the guys in the back were like damn Nate you can't just say it like that you guys yeah white people go hunting all the time like hunting is like aka we go killing but you really do have to worry about like posting hunting pictures now and shit oh yeah for sure yeah like everybody's all you know it's the it's the woke mob
Starting point is 00:29:49 just kidding we'll talk about that in a little bit tell me about the curse so the mad and curse not the mad and curse You know about the Madden Curse. The Madden Curse is real. We know that, right? Oh, so they put Peyton Hillis on that motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:30:06 I haven't seen him since. Hey, and I love Peyton Hillis, bro. Believe me. But like the Manning cast, so all the players that went on the Manning cast have lost the next week. I think like Kelsey in week one. I think like week two, it was Russell Wilson. There were various others. Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:30:25 We just need to get Carson Wentz on there tomorrow night. Or tonight for the listeners. You think so? you like that or Jonathan Taylor or Jonathan Taylor just any cold defense he's thinking a week ahead no but like it's it was undefeated everybody they went they went on a break and then week seven manning cast came back oh tom Brady think it's probably safe now nope losing to Trevor simeon nope think it's safe think it's safe Josh Allen I said this is the week we find out that all these stupid fucking curses are fake okay they're playing the jaguars dude
Starting point is 00:31:00 And Josh Allen went on it last week? Josh Allen went on it last week, bro. Think you're safe? Playing the Jags. Nope. Travis Kelsey went on week one. He lost week two. Russell Wilson on week one.
Starting point is 00:31:12 He lost week two as well. Gronk on week two, lost week three. Matt Stafford, week three with you. Did you lost week four? Did you go back and check your bets from that following week that you were on there? I should check my bets that week. You tell me who played that week. I probably,
Starting point is 00:31:29 I probably bet it and I'll be able to extrapolate. I have a very good memory. If I remember correctly, I think that was a good week. And LeBron got injured. Well, yeah, it just doesn't like, listen, the entertainers doesn't apply to entertainers, just athletes. I'm into the entertainment phase of my life. So I've evaded the managers, but all these motherfuckers,
Starting point is 00:31:50 Josh Allen lost in Jacksonville and was atrocious. He was atrocious. And by the way, Taylor, let me ask you this. When you win a second time as a Jaguar in a season, are you kind of like, man, I wish the first one didn't happen. Do you kind of wish the first one didn't happen so today could be that one win? Because, you know, like... No, you want to win as mean.
Starting point is 00:32:12 But every time you win, you get a worse draft pick, and you know you're not going to the playoffs. Well, we're getting a top 10 draft take. I think it's perfect if you're not going to make a playoffs. If my team's not going to make the playoffs, I want them to win like one win a year. You know, so everybody parties their ass off that one. night every Sunday you're just an ultimate underdog mode like you're just hoping oh Jacksonville's
Starting point is 00:32:35 up right now when you win to it kind of becomes like oh what are we doing here guys but we're we were missing a win in America it's been that's true that's true 120 days good for a hoi oh yeah oh boy yeah welcome welcome ashore welcome at you guys 420 look at that Oh my God Yeah so I Yeah I want my favorite teams to either go to the playoffs every year or or be like the Jets or something So we can all tell each other jokes like it's like a social crutch when you you root for a bad team You know like people are like oh fuck you know the jets and then they talk for 10 minutes
Starting point is 00:33:16 Yeah I've been a Knicks fan for a very long time Yeah you know how I mean a Knicks fan it's easy conversation easy conversation easy conversation Imagine having to keep up with the team. You know, it's easier to be like, man, we've sucked for a long time. Now it's harder. But yeah, worst plane ride. Definitely going to the Bill's fans. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:36 The other day we said the Bill's fans are going to take over Jacksonville. They're all going to get really sunburned. Close your eyes. Picture a Bill's fan in Jacksonville. Just close your eyes right now. Intense tan line. Just like beer drunk to the max. I wonder if people.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Margaritaville. Is there a Margaritaville? I wonder if people in Buffalo even know what sunscreen is. They have no idea, bro. They don't even have sunscreen in the CVS is in Buffalo. Definitely. You can't get travel sunscreen, nothing. Those guys go down there and I was going to say they're going to have so much fun down
Starting point is 00:34:08 there, but it turns out they didn't have much fun at all. And I'd hate to be them waking up for early flights, southwest, people clamoring for seats. Like it's Black Friday. You know, like everybody's sunburnt and hung over, which is the worst. combination. But even worse. You're going back to 45 degree Buffalo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:28 And 45 it might be... Throw me through a table. That might be generous. I like that. But they do that on the winning side. I was going to ask, like, if they're throwing... If they're throwing each, their selves through a table just for fun, like when they're winning.
Starting point is 00:34:45 So what do you do when you lose? Oh, you... Somebody smashes you with a table. Well, they started losing in the pregame. They tried jumping through tables and there's videos and they weren't making it through the tables. No. They're just hitting and falling over. It's a cherry wood down in Florida.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Someone gave them. That's really funny. Yeah. Like we should go set up like at a bills tailgate and just get like reinforced tables and have some of those fans try to jump through it. I think there's a lawsuit thing there. Why? It's on them. And now we've been signed a waiver.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Next time we're in Belmont. We're going to be like, we're just up here to ask fans some fun questions and throw some people through some tables. You guys listen to Greenlight? What? All right. I'm going to break your back. They'll never figure it out. We've talked about it on the podcast. But no, Josh Allen, he was bad today. I actually saw him late in the third get up slow.
Starting point is 00:35:44 He got hit hard today. I mean, like, that last big Brian sack, like, he was slow. up. He sat there on his knees for a second. And of course, still making those third and 22 throws that you're like, oh my God, dude. Oh, my God. If he just do more of those, there was just a lot more bad throws. He kind of relapsed a little bit. He got frustrated. The picks were dumb, like, forced into double coverage, then third and 12 late. Jacksonville heated him up. And this was like, you know, the throw that you don't need to make. He's going down. He's flipping around 360. just throws the ball up in the air
Starting point is 00:36:23 and they're isolating the guard on that play with a twist game from the second level. Really good pressure. You can't be mad at taking a sack. You just can't. And I hope that if the bills go through tough spots, Josh isn't getting frustrated because that's the one thing you're seeing it
Starting point is 00:36:39 with Patrick in Kansas City. Like, don't do that. It's going to be a field goal type game. Just be patient and play the game out. the Smoot fumble with five minutes to go Smoot's not even trying to force a fumble He's just he's trying to tackle that big son of a gun And the ball comes out
Starting point is 00:36:58 So that just tells me he's not thinking about the football Smute also a sack late Jacksonville's defense played their asses off And the curse is real And Lawrence some wins you earn Like this was one You gotta be proud of being a part of But sometimes your team lifts you up
Starting point is 00:37:16 I mean he almost threw a pick And then over through the dagger late to Jones that would have effectively ended the game on a double move that was a bad sequence in crunch time the team played well they played their asses off for a team who's left tackle Robinson was out five minutes before the game and that was an issue Walker little had a tough game and that made a big difference have you ever like you know like five 10 minutes before the game they're like 61's up 60s up or 60 oh we're going to see 79 that's that guy we saw on tape this week.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Yeah. We were praying he'd get a snap. You know what I mean? I'm not saying it was Walker Little, but everybody knows the situation where in the locker room you find out you're going to play a guy that you call the fish. Yeah. And it's going to be, you're just, it kind of puts a little bit more pep in your step. I'm not saying Walker Little was the fish.
Starting point is 00:38:11 But what I am saying is that he's a young guy and he was a, like Robinson was a late scratch that fits the bill for like when what we would call fish even if it's unfair to the kid and everybody would fight to get over that guy you know what I mean hey I'm gonna start over here bro one game me and BG got an argument over where we were lining up the only argument me and BG have ever been in our lives I love that dude to death bro and we argued one game didn't talk to each other for like three hours after the game over where we're lining up but it was the opposite it was the opposite. There was one guy that we didn't want to rush over. Oh, I've seen that happen a lot. And it was like, man, you can't come over here and get three snaps over this fucking all pro guy. I'm not going to say
Starting point is 00:39:01 which game. But the same thing happens on the other side when there's a fish. So yeah, tough. I still think Buffalo's pretty damn good. I still think Buffalo can make a run. But Josh Allen can't do it all. 50 yards rushing. I think running backs had 22 yards. That's not going to get it done. and we've been dancing around this run game problem in Buffalo for like I feel like an eternity now. So we'd be remiss if we didn't make a Josh Allen joke because Josh Allen said. Yeah, which one? Which one? On Sunday night football, they were like, hey, Josh Allen gets sick by Josh Allen.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Ha! What a game for Josh Allen. Bro, I like that kid. I'm glad he played well. To claim and to get everyone to know his name and not get it. mixed up into at least know now that there's two Josh Allen's in the league. I think most solid football fans knew it, but I think a lot of people were forgetting about him because he had a down year two, an awesome year one. And today, Sack, he had a PIC. He had a Fumble recovery.
Starting point is 00:40:10 You know, like, just an all-round great game. The guy's built like a Greek God, bro. I'm just like these young rushers bro i was built like a damn rectangle these guys are built like two triangles you know like i what i this josh allen motherfucker bro he's like how tall is he what's his what's six five two sixty two triangles bro bro no two triangles yeah i'm talking about with the the i don't want to say the tips touching but the tips of the triangles are touching The dudes are built like, you know, with the V thing. I never had the V thing. Josh Allen on third down looks sick, bro.
Starting point is 00:40:48 He's out there like pumping people up. He looks like a stormtrooper or something. Looks like a power ranger. Looks like he's just going to blast off. Oh, he blasted off. I looked like I had to get towed on third down. Like, you're going to tow me to the quarterback, bro. I love watching these rushers, man.
Starting point is 00:41:06 This generation is crazy. Atlanta, New Orleans, Hate Week. did you know it was a big rivalry when you played i kind of i missed it what's that Atlanta and new Orleans like I didn't get it I just did not get that they hated each other as much they do no I didn't know that yeah dude they're they're legit like uh it's not like a funny thing like they openly you know how nowadays coaches are like we don't want to give them any bulletin board material Atlanta and new Orleans it could be in ready to play and a guy will be like yeah fuck his family oh like on tuesday bro you know they really
Starting point is 00:41:39 really hate each other. I mean, that's an exaggeration. But when did that start? I don't know, bro. Because you don't think about that as being some incredible rivalry, but it is. It is. And every, this is why the fucking, uh, Falcons getting six this week, didn't even buy the point. Because the point, you bought the point. It was like minus 180. But this was a lock, bro. If I've learned anything in my gambling time, like if the Falcons and the Saints are playing, and bet it to be a close game. Our friend Ryan, who works downstairs, he knew it was going to be a good day,
Starting point is 00:42:17 take a step outside, and there was a gentleman with a hawk walking down his street. No way. Yeah, he just had his arm. So Ryan and his son went out, saw the hawk, and then cheered the Falcons. Well, I hate to tell you, Ryan and Ryan's son,
Starting point is 00:42:30 and I love Ryan. Shout out to Ryan. But I hate to tell you guys, Seahawks are on a buy. Seahawks are on a buy. I don't know if it was an omen, but that is a damn cool omen, though. Anytime you can see a hawk, I'm all the way in on seeing a hawk. The sea-hawks are goals, though.
Starting point is 00:42:49 I meant to say a falcon. Yeah, dude. So that makes sense. So if they saw a falcon, for a minute there, I was like, damn, should we have hired Ryan? I can see a cardinal on my window, bet the mortgage on the Ravens. Let me say this. gasoline on the falcons first i picked the falcons on a whim to be a wildcar team it didn't feel right right when i hit it you know like you golfers out there when you hit the ball
Starting point is 00:43:19 and it slices immediately i just knew slice shouldn't have said that and then i felt good about like owning it immediately like had a little press conference i was wrong you won't get that in this business a lot falcons aren't going anywhere and now they got this yo-yo thing going on where they pull me right back in bro the fire department is on the way to put out uh my prediction that i set on fire dude like we're gonna put we're gonna douse it uh with water the falcons are back matt ryan is back he looked vintage today what a fucking game dude yeah so i'm gonna throw in my little marketing bit right now yeah and the falcons they should be sponsored by life alert they should they should sponsor life alert because they just like to scare their fans like
Starting point is 00:44:09 all the time. They get leads. I'm there. Like, I'm telling you. Like, think about that. When you watch that game today and they start losing, you're like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Like, no way. Yeah, you know what? And that's, Atlanta fans, bro. They really are very, when they live tweet games, they're very endearing. Like George Foster, um,
Starting point is 00:44:34 Bumchillips, Spencer. The whole gang that I, I watch tweet about Falcons games. Joe Scudder. Okay. Joe Scudder. My dude, Joe Scudder.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Joe Scudder's a white rapper. Oh, yeah? Yeah, he's fucking best, dude. Ritz Cracker. Wow. What? That's a white rapper for you right there. Underground.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Ritz Cracker. Oh, I thought you were just calling it. No. Oh, my God. People are going to be using. using you as a what aboutism for Aaron Rogers. How come Nate Collins was banned by the who? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Whoever, the FTC, FCC won't let me be. Because I'm vaccinated. We'll talk about it. Let's not, hey, let's talk. We're going to talk vaccination a little bit. Soon to be boosted. Tune in. I'm a doctor.
Starting point is 00:45:36 No, but the Falcons might be back, dude. They might be back. Matt Ryan's back I swear Matt Ryan becomes Tom Brady's Fox cartoon during hate week You know like all jacked Good looking You know like just
Starting point is 00:45:50 The whole thing dude Maddie Ice man He was out he was out there He put the team on his back bro He put the team on his back Ryan Beating the Saints a week after Brady couldn't So like
Starting point is 00:46:02 No shade at my man Tom I'm just kind of building my man Matt Ryan up here Like no run game no Ridley. Patterson is stepping up though. A week after Brady couldn't beat the Saints, everybody's thinking, right, like this is a no-brainer.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Matt Ryan, the Falcons, they're not real good. They weren't good in September. They've been playing better. And he looks healthier, dude. You know, I thought Matt Ryan was 38. Just found out he was 36. Wow.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Even so, he's way too old to be dropping the best linebacker in the game like that in the open field early. DeMario Davis. hit the deck. Matt Ryan hit him with the dead leg. I thought this, I didn't know what year it was.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Usually I could go, oh, this looks like vintage 2004, Matt Ryan. But Matt Ryan never did shit like that. I played against Matt Ryan in college? Yeah. He's 36? He's 36, bro.
Starting point is 00:46:57 So definitely played against him. We're old, bro. But he put the team on his back today. No Calvin Ridley, no run game. I thought he had arthritis. I thought he was 38, but maybe he has a little arthritis.
Starting point is 00:47:09 he forgot about it and he bawled out today. I mean, even when New Orleans came back to take the lead late in the game, you have this great lead, you blow it, like you alluded to. No, let me throw a 64-yard bomb to like a 6-7 running back. He used to be a wide receiver. Like, we're just going to connect.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Other teams are struggling to run a two-minute offense. Like, this guy looks like it's his MVP year today. He threw for like 350. Good for him. Good for him. He didn't blink. Maybe he's taking that attitude like your old coach and like preseason just ended for him. Preseason just ended.
Starting point is 00:47:49 He's on the Jeff Fisher program. And he's ready to go. He said preseason just ended like four games into the season. That's good. I like that. Maybe he's listening to the podcast. We love Matt Ryan. I'm going to give him the game ball.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Give him the game ball. Mattie Ice. He's an awesome dude. You root for him. I mean, he got sacked twice late and I thought like surely he's going to get up. slow. He's really tough. He played well. He looks healthier. And he's auditioning.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Like, even if he's not going to be a falcon, he's auditioning to other teams. And this is the type of game that I know how this goes. Right or wrong, if he's the way he looked today, I take a chance on him. But somebody's going to look at that tape and say, look back at week nine or whatever it was against the saints. Look at how he moved in the pocket. Look how he climbed the pocket on that late throw. to Zakias. Look at how he dropped to Mario Davis.
Starting point is 00:48:41 We want that guy. We can win with that guy for a year. Contender can win with that guy for year. His agent has these clips already in his wallet. Ready to go for any conversation. Look at my client. Look at what he can still do at 36. Or 38, whatever I thought he was.
Starting point is 00:48:59 We're in the same draft class. That doesn't make any sense. The funniest shit to me is I'm sitting here. I've worn the same flee sweatpants for three days in a row. I've taken five nap. and this motherfucker's still out there playing football. I'm thinking about it all the time. That's what I've done the last three days.
Starting point is 00:49:15 When I was on that podcast, I was thinking Mercedes-Lewis was still playing. Oh, Mercedes-Lewis is way too old to be just having dudes up. Tyson, like get well assumed. Tyson Aloe Aloe Alaw was still playing. He's in the trenches. It's crazy. Like, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:49:29 I better not be practicing these guys. You better be taking care of these guys. But I'm glad for Maddie Ice. He was auditioning for the other guys. And defense stood up. Two-point conversion late that allowed them to win that game. You don't want to go into overtime with the Saints at home or on the road at the Saints. You don't want to go into overtime after they make that big comeback. So that stopped, the teeth
Starting point is 00:49:50 of their defense, Grady Jarrett, one of the most underrated in the game. I'll talk about another one of the most underrated defensive players in the game. In a second we talk about New England, hello, J.C. Jackson. But like, Grady Jarrett, the interior of that, that defense stepping up on that two-point conversion, stuffing them. That was big. So, Big win for the Falcons, and maybe they're back. Shout out Raw Room. Yeah, shout out Raw Room and shout out Darren Bates. He just, wherever he goes, it turns to gold, man.
Starting point is 00:50:17 He's got that thing going on, man. Cincinnati, Cleveland, okay? Battle for Ohio. The day went all wrong for the Bengals there, but I do want to shout out my buddy Sam Hubbard. Really nice P-coat on IG rolled up. No sarcasm here. Get the guy at GQ shoot, okay?
Starting point is 00:50:35 They didn't win the game, but my man has a really nice camel. p coat. Camels in, bro. Speaking of GQ shoot, didn't you have a GQ shoot? I did way back in the day. What were you wearing? Two actually. What were you wearing? Fake chinchilla.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Bro, I don't know what it was, but you show up and they just have shit on hangers. And at that point, you've already, it's intimidating. You've already, you've already agreed to it. So with that experience, do you think you can like, do you think you can? I swear I didn't plant you saying this. No. Like, this is funny. I brought up Sam Hubbard and somehow like people are going to be Googling the GQ shoot.
Starting point is 00:51:15 He's not so ugly after all, motherfucker. They can make you look good in that fucking GQ. They make you look good. Was it a studio like this? I don't, it was like a warehouse over there. They ran out of warehouse and. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:28 They came to Charlottesville? I'm an Ambie Turner though. You're really a superstar. Yeah. They came to you, bro. Enough about my GQ shoots. Let's start with Odell being gone. The off-the-field stuff.
Starting point is 00:51:40 That was enough off-the-field stuff. Shout out to our bopper, a big bopper, Sam Hubbard, and Trey Hendrickson. But O'Dell dominated the news this week. Aaron Rogers is really happy O'Dell happened this week because it was just going to be him up there. For sure.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Like O'Dell kind of soften the blow a little bit. Yeah, Cleveland, they got rid of the distraction. That's what you think. And I think it was evident. And think about even for Baker. Baker's a dude that he wants to show that he's the man. He can play well. I can do this.
Starting point is 00:52:20 And think about it. The only person that really had a problem that was stirring things up. It all had to do with Odell. The passes that are going to Odell. Like, look how bad this passes. Everyone's pointing these things out. And he's not there this week. And the ball spread around.
Starting point is 00:52:36 They're playing great. They're putting points up. Chubs looks great. No one's complaining. And I just feel like Baker's probably sitting at home right now. Like, yeah, motherfucker. What's good? Yeah, well, I want to make it clear.
Starting point is 00:52:50 I'm on the other, I'm not on the other side of that. I actually don't think he was a, listen, the video thing is undeniably a distraction, but it's an intentional distraction. It's like you're trying to get the fuck out of there. So at that point,
Starting point is 00:53:03 you burnt the ships. Like, but I don't think to that point, um, hearing what, I heard like coming out of there that he was a disliked teammate. I think people really liked him. I just don't think Baker and him meshed and the pressure of having somebody who, when Baker was watching football, like the best football player in the game offensively that everybody
Starting point is 00:53:28 tuned in to watch was, was Odell. That's why there's young guys running around and fucking free Odell as if like Odell's not getting exactly what he wants. And with this hair do. Let's pump the brakes a little bit on this martyrdom thing here. But like, I mean, Baker, that whole generation, they were watching this guy. He's like a superstar. And, you know, like Baker is not quite a superstar. And so like when they couldn't get on the same page, maybe the moment was too big for him when he had to go to, to, to, to O'Dell.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Maybe they just didn't have a good rapport. Maybe they couldn't get on the same page like route running or that sort of. I don't know, but if I had to lean, I would lean that Baker was probably the problem in that relationship, and maybe it just compounded it compounded. I will say this, though, for the good of the football team, if it truly was messing up their relationship and hence his relationship with the offense
Starting point is 00:54:27 and just the way he was playing, you're kind of married to the quarterback the rest of the year. There's not a lot of, like, if you had to take one away, QB, wide receiver, wide receiver's going away every time, time. Yeah. I mean, unless you're on a team that's not competing. And yeah, Baker's the middle of the pack kind of guy who has ups and downs.
Starting point is 00:54:47 But if he's performing in this offense, they can score 30 points a game. It's a really well-oiled offense. I think about it in my head, like how it was Jay Culler and Brandon Marshall. What do you think, that Brandon had to go? Just that situation I know in the front of it. office they're thinking about that every day like like hey like what are we going to do here like are we getting rid of cutler like are we going to end up just getting rid of jay or are we just going to say like hey we can't deal with like one of the best wide receivers we can't deal with this diva attitude or
Starting point is 00:55:24 whatever it is like what are we going to do well i mean there's only one guy that can throw the ball yeah i mean and even if he's not your perfect answer uh baker to my point like stefansky if he can do one thing he can call the fuck out of a game. I don't think it's mutually exclusive to think about two things happening in Cleveland. One, Odell being a model citizen, his stay there probably, and two, Baker's better without him. Like, those two things can be true. I know last week I kind of said this team's done. I don't know. I'm not like apologizing already. It just felt like they were done last week. I don't know. I hope I'm wrong. I do smile when Baker makes plays. I mean, I think everybody likes watching him excited. But the hard thing for him is this could be like a feather in your cap kind of
Starting point is 00:56:14 kind of day in division where you say, hey, I was really efficient. I hit on the deep stuff. I was throwing, I mean, some of these balls he threw today were piss missiles. Absolutely. But Nick Chubb is like otherworldly. So even when OBJ goes and you get like your day in the sun, everybody still kind of is looking at the running back saying like, damn, that's the straw, right? that stirs the drink. And it was when Odell was here. That's the straw that stirs the drink
Starting point is 00:56:41 when Jarvis is rolling, when Joku's rolling, when, you know, People's Jones is catching bombs. Like, it's just the reality of the situation. He was the guy, man, and Baker did everything he was supposed to do today,
Starting point is 00:56:55 but eight carries against stackboxes, 109 yards, two touchdowns. They just beat the shit out of Sinci. Sinci'll get another chance at it, you know, but Burrow was off early. he missed like flat routes he missed swing passes
Starting point is 00:57:08 you know and you miss those on third and three it just sets up fourth and three and then they miss on fourth and three and then next thing you know the Browns take a shot 50 yards and they're up 217 so like they're little things but they become big things
Starting point is 00:57:23 and you know chase with the fumble chase with a drop late chase with another drop late drops a touchdown drops a go route we talk about first and last possessions you know the middle of the game their first possession, the Bengals, pick six, 100 yards, 14 point swing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:41 And then before the half, you get a drop in the end zone and they can't take advantage. And just getting down there was due to penalties, the ruffing on Jadavian Clowney. And then a, it was a DPI. They got a DPI and a ruffing. So they were really out of sync today, and that's two weeks in a row. Yeah, you got to worry about Sincere a little bit. Ever since I called them contenders, Burrow on third down and the way he moves in the pocket, It reminds me of a young Tom Brady
Starting point is 00:58:06 and people lost their shit like in the comments. But I cursed them. Ever since then, they've been kind of cheeked. So I don't know who they have next, but this is a do or, not a do-or-die game for them, but one that their season can turn kind of ugly
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Starting point is 00:59:50 I want to tell you something, and this was Taylor made this point. It's great point. You want life alert for the, for the Falcons fans? Yeah. Minnesota, they need life alert. They need two life alerts.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Every household needs two to three life alerts. per room week one field goal loss week two missed field goal loss week five went on a field goal at the end of the game week six went on touchdown in overtime week eight lost on a touchdown with 50 to go you can tell it's personal
Starting point is 01:00:21 I lost that game too but no more dude today you saw it 14 point lead Dalvin Cook can't play four minute lose a lead I don't get these guys dude I just don't which is why I bet the under on the win total but I also knew they'd cover
Starting point is 01:00:37 today. Best possible outcome. Okay, Ravens win. And how much closer are you to the, to the under? We live one day at a time. I couldn't even tell you what the number is. I think it's eight and a half. Rumor has it. It's eight and a half, but we're just living one day at a time. Ravens, you made a good point about them earlier. They've been in overtime a lot and they've won an overtime. Three overtime games this year, battle tested. They are battle tested, but this is one of those situations that maybe you miss, like, remember when... They better go get this guy. Remember when they used to not be able to come back.
Starting point is 01:01:12 People said, remember when, you know, they would just beat their opponents by a lot and all that. Like, this year they've been in close ball games. They've came back. They came back, you know, a couple weeks ago against Indianapolis. They came back today. And Lamar was off, dude. And by the way, the Vikings, two weeks in a row, being two.
Starting point is 01:01:34 two turnovers up and they can't capitalize, that's 10% chances to win those ball games individually, and it happened twice. But the Ravens, they've got experience in these close ball games. You said it earlier, three overtime games. Yeah, two and one. Two and one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Two and one with the win, with the win today. Yeah. So I just feel like they're somewhat battle tested. Yeah, dude. They are. They are. And I wonder if that's a good thing, because a couple years ago,
Starting point is 01:02:02 when they used to never play teams that they beat close and I felt like they didn't come back this year they went in close games they fought back in the Indianapolis game they fought back today like they're answering some critics Lamar is the MVP dude
Starting point is 01:02:17 okay I don't know they'll give it to them I've been saying this for a month now and I feel like I was five days out ahead of this thing I think I was I was like at least a day or two out ahead of this thing I really do think when you look at what they have It's such a weird looking team.
Starting point is 01:02:33 I know I said the other day that O'Dell should go to the Ravens because they need somebody to throw the ball to. People, again, socials and the sort of thing, the quote, people are like, what do you mean? You got Mark Andrews, Hollywood Brown, I get it, but you're telling me that a quarterback of his caliber, now this is the point Bart Scott made, and I don't want to make it as confrontational.
Starting point is 01:02:54 I think those guys are really good players, Hollywood Brown, and Mark Andrews. But look around the league at MVP caliber quarterback, they have two and three and four options. They have, you know, a feature backed and catch the ball out of the backfield, et cetera. Like they're trotting out Levion Bell who every time he gets the ball. I'm like, who is that? Because of the number.
Starting point is 01:03:15 I mean it just looks so weird. And they've got Devante Freeman. And, you know, I've made this point a lot. Their offseason upgrades were they found a way to hide Villanueva, a Villanueva's played better. You remember that Raiders game? We were like, they're not even going to be able to get the ball off. they've found ways to work around that stuff
Starting point is 01:03:34 Lamar's overcome some of these deficiencies and even on a day like today where he's definitely off early he threw a pick that could have been a pick to two guys in the middle of field like both guys would have picked it like they were fighting over the ball he also under threw Hollywood before the half by like 10 yards got it okay on his off days 72 of 120 yards rushing
Starting point is 01:03:57 for him came on scrambles so even when he's not throwing the ball. I know some people because of the way he's had to fight stereotypes and that sort of thing don't want to lean into hey he scrambled his ass off today but this is what makes him the MVP dude
Starting point is 01:04:14 it's the fact that when he has an off day throwing which are few and far between the way he's developed as a passer the way he looked in the first half because he came back slinging he can lean on that because he threw some nice balls late but he kept them in the game with his legs I mean, that's why he's the MVP.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Look around the league today. He had 120 Russian on top of everything he did through the air, slow starting all. Look at how many quarterbacks threw in the 100s total yards today. Look, all of them, even some good quarterbacks throwing the low 200s.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Like Lamar did that on the ground. You know what I mean? He was 120 on the ground. He's got that to fall back on. He kept him in the game with his legs, and then his arm caught up and he had a really nice day throwing the football late. That pass in the low red to get it over the fence there.
Starting point is 01:05:04 To Duvonnei, one-handed catch. He put it the only place he could. I mean, these six guys are fencing the goal line, and he kind of has to put some loft under it, some great throws late connecting with Hollywood. Just a good day for him, man. A good day for him. And you just respect him.
Starting point is 01:05:22 You really respect the guy. Mar joins Cam is the only QBs in NFL history with at least 500 yards rushing in each of their. the first four seasons and yesterday Lamar, it was Lamar's 10th career game of at least 100 rush yards, tying Mike Vick for most all time. Ridiculous. Which is unreal.
Starting point is 01:05:41 You would think that would be higher, but that's. I don't know if we're gonna look back and be like Lamar revolutionized the game because I don't know if there's like too many Lamars. You know what I mean? Like I think sometimes like we get out ahead of ourselves and we're like, this is how every quarterback's gonna look, you know, it's like there's only one Lamar every. regeneration. I really believe that he's just a special leader. He's a special runner with the ball.
Starting point is 01:06:07 He's a special thrower in a lot of ways. Like to be able to throw with the zip he throws on some of these routes. I mean, there's some routes he don't throw great, but but he really has some zip on the fucking football and he's been accurate and he's developed and he's worked at it. Come a long way since that game where San Diego just dropped eight. You know, like everybody's like, oh, it's the blueprint. They figured him out. And there's been a couple of couple times they're figuring them out but when a guy has an off half and he can still beat you with his legs for 70 on scrambles 120 on the ground it doesn't matter like that's what makes him so valuable the more you can do in the NFL the more you can do so big win for them pat ricard bopper got in there had a day scored a touchdown and the second half was just four raven's possessions including receiving the kickoff it was just just four Ravens possessions, 21 men's of possessions, three drives of 60 yards. That's exactly who they are. Like, that's a blueprint for them wearing people down. Pat's Panthers, real quick,
Starting point is 01:07:13 the drip. The drip. Your boy, Belichette. He's a drip king. The drip king. Is he not a king? Bro, those, those sweat, that, that hoodie sweat pan combo. Sweets rolled up. They, they're probably flying off the shelves. And what's up with the one pant leg up? Bro, I don't know. Is he selling? Is he buying? I don't know. Yeah. But when he comes in there with two pants, when you have two pant legs
Starting point is 01:07:42 up, I think that's code for like, I'm just here to have a good time and coach the fuck out of a football game. I told you, I'm excited to watch this team play. It's going to be ugly and creative. They win different ways every week. My big takeaway is that this is over this year for the Panthers.
Starting point is 01:07:58 The Panthers have lost five of six. We've been saying this. You know, I don't know if Sam Darnold is going to just forever. I watch the movie of Manchurian candidate. Have you seen the movie The Manchurian candidate with Denzel Washington? I haven't. It's predicated, spoiler alert, on these guys that when they say they're full names to them, like they go into this hypnosis mode and they black out and become these bad acting government operatives.
Starting point is 01:08:26 I think Bill hypnotizes Sam to think he's a rookie every time they play. I think he walks by him on the sideline. He's like Samuel Richard Darnold. I had to look that up what his name was. But I really do think it's a Manchurian candidate situation. And he feels like he's a rookie. He goes right back to that game when he was seeing ghosts. He was seeing ghosts in Calvin.
Starting point is 01:08:47 How cool is his life? He leaves New England for the pandemic where you get locked inside. You know, you got to watch Tom Brady win a Super Bowl in Tampa. you struggle. There's COVID protocols. There's no windows in that building anyways. Kyle Van Hoy gets to go down to Miami and hang out for a year or two,
Starting point is 01:09:07 then come back up to New England, him, Jamie Collins, the whole gang's back together. Those guys have fun, and he got to get back for the ghost game, dude. It's time to shut it down in Carolina, and I don't mean that Rule's not a good football coach. I'm just saying this team's not good this year.
Starting point is 01:09:21 And so the only confusing thing, the only thing I don't like about Rule is that he didn't, know this team wasn't that good. Even with the injury to McCaffrey, they still went out and made moves. Donald, like, that's my one concern that they weren't able to evaluate
Starting point is 01:09:35 that maybe he's not the guy. So J.C. Jackson picked six today. Definitely up there, most underrated players in the league. I mean, Darius Butler tweeted this this weekend. I do not know why somebody didn't go get this guy when you could have gotten him.
Starting point is 01:09:51 He allowed one catch today. And again, when defense plays like that, When Sam plays like that, Mack Jones didn't have to be great on the other side. I mean, the Pats are 4-0 on the road. They're finding creative ways to win. And I fucked it up. The season, I said the season doesn't start to Halloween for them.
Starting point is 01:10:11 I butchered it. It's like Thanksgiving, it doesn't start until for them. That was the whole saying there, Thanksgiving. I was just ready early. I was ready early because I didn't want to be, I don't want to get left behind. So I was ready by Halloween. But they say they get ready by Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 01:10:25 So they're ahead of schedule. Think about it. It's scary, dude. Looking good. They're going to be a tough out, dude. They're always a tough out. They always have, if not, the best coach in the league. So it just helps out everything in the long run.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Raiders, Giants, I'm not going to say much about this game. I just think this team was due for collapse, like honestly. I mean, think of everything they've been through the Raiders the past couple weeks. You had, you know, the Gruden situation. You had everything that happened with Rugg's terrible decision and the tragedy that followed. and the aftermath. Like they've been all over the country. They've had multiple East Coast trips, I think.
Starting point is 01:11:05 You should have saw this coming. I stayed away, but I would have leaned Giants. The Raiders traveling east is a bad idea, Betten anyways. The Raiders lost this game. Okay, couldn't finish. Five trips to the Red Zone. One touchdown, three field goals.
Starting point is 01:11:20 They missed the field goal from 25 yards. Four for 12 on third down, and the Giants just dominated up front. So three and six, off to a really hot start. I don't know what you guys are doing with that 3 and 6 start in New York, but it's the hottest start since 2016 for Macon's New York Giants. Houston and Miami, last of the 1 PMs here. I want my money back and I want my money back due to David Cully, dude. Love the job he's done there, very admirable, but the line was seven, David, coach Cully, Coach Cully, because
Starting point is 01:11:53 I respect you. Coach Cully, the line was seven, okay? You were down there at the goal line. It was fourth and one. It didn't seem like a game from what I was watching. Like I'd pop in and pop out. You know, pretty much the gamblers were just watching this one. Maybe Tyrod Taylor's family. You're down 17 to 6.
Starting point is 01:12:12 You're down 11 points. You weren't getting back down there. You got to go for it there. So two reasons I want my money back. Cully's decision there. And then Davis Mills. I didn't know I was betting Tyrod Taylor. No disrespect to Rod Taylor.
Starting point is 01:12:25 It's our guy, even for being a hokey. but I just was thinking I was betting the QB with the thick neck this was one of two games that ruined my $5 potential $10,000 parlay today yeah it was bad for a minute there I thought you were going to lose because because Davis Mills got hurt I don't even know what happened Davis Mills didn't get hurt they just put Tyraub back in yeah they just put
Starting point is 01:12:51 started Tyrod return from IR yeah you know what though they owe them that. They owe him that. For everything that he's been through, they owe him that. Absolutely. That was a tough one. That was a tough one. See, I haven't been keeping up on my Houston stuff, guys. I'm sorry. That should be humanizing. Late games, man, Packers, Chiefs. I'm going to talk about the Packers and Chiefs here. We're going to talk about the thing everybody's been talking about all year. Bebel Conway, no shock. Just number one overall seed. He's chalky, but this is the game. We'll be real quick on San Francisco and Arizona and the Eagles and the Chargers, and we're going to get out of
Starting point is 01:13:25 here because it's late. But Packers' Chiefs, the whole thing was framed around the Aaron Rogers news, which you did not know happened when you walked in today. I was like, oh, you didn't hear about the last thing from five minutes ago. I didn't hear about anything. Yeah, anything. Like to be honest, the last highlight I seen of Aaron Rogers was him in his Halloween outfit, dancing at a party. So you're like killing turkeys all weekend. Yeah. So when you go work on the turkey farm, is it like having jury duty?
Starting point is 01:14:03 No, it's not that. It's just that like I come home. No, it's between, it's between the turkey season and eBay and my eBay stuff. So you're just there clicking because you definitely got a mouse and everything. Do you have like a desktop that you sell your eBay wear on? Bro, I do it all for my phone, bro. That's crazy. but anyways
Starting point is 01:14:24 I just I was amazing to me that you came in here and had no idea whatsoever about the Aaron Rogers fallout and of course
Starting point is 01:14:33 if there's another Nate Collins who subscribes to a football podcast what it happened was he got COVID and then we found out that he was not vaccinated
Starting point is 01:14:44 and then people backtracked and looked at a interview in August when he said I've been immunized which of course was a little bit mislead because we took that to mean vaccinated. Bottom line, y'all know the story with Aaron Rogers. You haven't been on turkey farm.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Virginia jury duty is what we call it. So now he has. He worked on a turkey farm. So now. So there was a Pat McAfee interview later this week. And I got to tell you, there's a big part of this that like Aaron came right on and said like, you know, you've got the woke mob and the cancel culture and my cancel coffin and all this stuff. The oxygen should be running out in that coffin too. So if somebody better go check on him,
Starting point is 01:15:25 but, oh, that's how he responded back. He said that cancel culture is coming for me because they're mad because they said I lied about it. It's unjust. It's a bad rule, but also I'm getting canceled and all this stuff. My only thing is, you know where I am on vaccination. I got vaccinated. I think people should get vaccinated. I lean doctors, all right? Like, that's just where I lean. I'm not yelling at Aaron Rogers. I like Aaron Rogers. I want to like Aaron Rogers. Like, he's one of the best football players I've ever seen and Aaron's also stood up one of a few quarterbacks that to be fair that stood up for protesting players even if it was late like we weren't getting a lot of quarterback so I want to like Aaron Rogers I've liked him every time I've
Starting point is 01:16:08 been around him but I just thought this I was like man I just we're not seeing eye to eye here bro and that also doesn't mean you're getting canceled criticism is not cancellation that's one of the biggest things that people get mixed up first off that being criticized in mass doesn't mean you're getting canceled. And me talking about it isn't outrage. I'm not outraged right now. You know who's probably mad the reporters who didn't know that he wasn't vaccinated? I mean, at the end of the day, anyone who's been in his face or been around him, like it should be my choice to know. Like, I guess if we're going to be in those same works. That's how the protocols were set up. Yeah, exactly. If we're going to be in the same workplace and
Starting point is 01:16:45 this is how things are going to be set up, I should know if you've been vaccinated. or not, or if I don't know, if I'm not, I can choose to stay away from you. I was on Jimmy Trainers pod a while back. Shout out to Jimmy. It's a great pod. Sports Illustrated media podcast. And he asked me about Cole Beasley, who was just on this soapbox going on and on about like being basically like he was living in what we would deem a third world country.
Starting point is 01:17:13 And he was just being like persecuted heavily, like on a worldly scale because people were encouraging him to get a vaccine. which if you don't get it at this point i understand that 30% of the country is not getting a vaccine like i get that uh like it just seems like it's not going to happen unless you're made to get it we're not going to argue i'm not arguing over this stuff but don't make up some shit like that was my thing with cole beasley and i got caught saying oh please just shut the fuck up like in that kind of voice and people quote tweeted me as like like i was standing on a podium like shouting down at Cole Beasley.
Starting point is 01:17:51 I don't want to be the COVID police, but this is dumb because you know, when you get on Pat McAfee's thing and you're talking about and I wish Aaron was on the show and I'd probably say this to him, I'd be like, dude, when you say, it's fine if you don't get vaxed, like it's not
Starting point is 01:18:07 fine, but like, you know, it's your choice. But don't get on Pat McAfee's show and then say that why get vaccinated if you can pass it on? When the answer is like literally on Google, You know, you did all your research. You can get it at six times a higher rate if you're not vaccinated. You're hospitalized at 11 times a higher rate if you're not vaccinated.
Starting point is 01:18:28 I get that probably you and I aren't getting sick. But the whole point, anyways, the woke mob thing, the woke mob thing. I mean, the woke mob thing, dude, we had to lead off with woke mob, bro. Like, that's your entrance music. The woke mob thing to me is funny because the way I understand woke and mob, and don't get me wrong, we live in an age when people are mad every day and they're mad online especially and we get in our camps
Starting point is 01:18:56 we pull away from the middle and we yell at each other okay so like I get the sentiment that you might feel like everybody's against you but when you say woke I think of like people that are like I'm giving you a different take oh I think of something that people don't think about
Starting point is 01:19:14 like let me spin it this way Like, you know, I mean, like, you're in the minority of people from a thinking standpoint. That's what woke's supposed to mean. Dude, you're in the minority. You're the woke. You're woke, bro. You're being woke. Aaron Rogers is being woke.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Hey, Aaron, you're being woke. You're part of the 30%. Everybody else is like, I'm just getting this fucking shot. I mean, every time there's a pandemic, I get a shot. We've gotten plenty of vaccines, dude. There's 30% of people who aren't getting them. Why are people that, once you get a vaccine, the woke mob? I don't get that part.
Starting point is 01:19:48 I don't get that part. And yeah, like the cancellation thing, let me ask you this. I asked everybody this earlier. Name an athlete that's actually gotten canceled. Because this part, I'm definitely like calling BS on. Number one, Aaron Rogers is not getting suspended. That's what I heard.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Number two, State Farm said that they're not going to get into his vaccination status. Okay. He lost a health partnership, which, like, even, if you're anti-vax or you're independent or libertarian or whatever like you you probably get that right like you probably get that happened to kirk cousins so you lose a little money but the state farm stuff that money's good that's not going anywhere even though today he was on 1% of state farm ads usually 25% he's 1⁄2nd he's 1 1⁄2 today they don't want that hotline blowing up state farm please do not fuck with aaron rogers the worst thing that we can do
Starting point is 01:20:46 is make people think that cancellation is real. Okay? Like, it is not real in a sense of an athlete saying something and then not being able to do business anymore. All I'm saying is that, like, you know who's gotten canceled? Fucking OJ kind of got canceled. No, he didn't.
Starting point is 01:21:04 You're right. He's still, hello, Twitter world. Like, he's out there, bro. He's playing golf. But, but, like, we indulge in that. No, no. OJ can't go get a job on TV. He got canceled, rightfully so.
Starting point is 01:21:14 But I'm talking about people that didn't. do something illegal. I'm talking about people that said something, whether it was something that was deemed defensive or whatever, like John Rocker got canceled. John Rocker got canceled. John Rocker and OJ are the motherfuckers that got canceled. All I'm saying is like,
Starting point is 01:21:28 you want to know somebody got canceled? Colin Kaepardick kind of got canceled, dude. Jokes on you, Batman. I'm not saying that he's at odds with that, but a lot of the same people who are probably yelling about cancel culture, Colin got canceled, bro. He got the ultimate cancellation. It's the biggest weapon of people that just want an out sometimes.
Starting point is 01:21:45 if you say that. And I'm like, we'll define it, dude, because you're going to be back on the football field. And I hope you are. And I really do believe if he had just said in August, hey, man, I'm not vaccinated. I have an allergy. As supposedly statistically rare as that might be,
Starting point is 01:22:02 and people might pull holes in that, and some people might never want to hear, you know, what he has to say about that. I think most people would have been like, okay, I'm not touching that. We've got to take your word for it. even though the J&J vaccine was only recalled for like a couple weeks and that one he's still had an opportunity and honestly the only people out of a million I think it was like 18 people out
Starting point is 01:22:22 of a million six people out of a million and they're all women under the age of 50 there's no real risk for him I mean there's more of a risk and a tetanus shot probably I don't know that for sure but neither does he obviously know certain things for sure that he was saying and listen again this I'm not part of some mob I just disagree man I just just disagree, comma, man. Put that in the quote. If you're going to quote me on something, I just disagree, comma, man. Because when you put man at the end, people picture it like your Big Lobowski and that you're in a really chill mood. I don't want to be like the, I don't want you to put me in the category of the
Starting point is 01:22:57 woman with the knit hat yelling with the triggered meme. Like, that's not me, man. I just disagree. And I really do think when he gets back, if they can put this behind them, they are like incredibly dangerous down the stretch this year. I finally believe in them. And today and last week makes me believe in them even more. What they've done the last two weeks, this week without their quarterback,
Starting point is 01:23:21 last week without Joe Barry, like that feels like a long time ago too, that Cardinals game. But they played well and they kept them in it this week. But I bet that having been said, they can't wait to get 12 back. They had chances. I'll run down the list real quick.
Starting point is 01:23:38 Missed the kick. They had the laces issue, I think. They had a block. They had a block kick. They also gave Kansas City a short field on that Malik Taylor muff. They were down 10-0-0-0, or it made it 10-0, I think. And then they almost picked Mahom. This is like a little thing.
Starting point is 01:23:53 King steps in front of an out-rout or something in the high red. Instead, it ends up 13-0. This is a field goal-type game. You can't give them up. Third-and-five, they have a snap issue. Third-and-10, down 13. Late and Love just throws it up. He has Lazard and Dillon underneath.
Starting point is 01:24:09 Take the profit, dude. Take the profit. Packers offense on their heels all night. Spaggs heated Jordan Love up. 54% blitz rate. And 14 targets of Adams, only six completions. Pretty throws a couple of them, but lots of short stuff. Fourth and five was pretty.
Starting point is 01:24:26 But Mahomes wasn't great either. Nearly threw a pick to King. I just mentioned missed opportunities. Beginning of the fourth quarter, I'll be brief on this. Third and five, rolling left. Last year, a calendar year ago, we talked on this podcast. So that sprint right, sprint left option. It becomes like an automatic.
Starting point is 01:24:45 You can't guard it when Kansas City runs it well on third and medium or third and short. He puts the ball right where he needs to and Hardman just drops it. And that's indicative of where they are right now. They're just not in tune. The ball's behind Kelsey a little bit on a third down. It's just little things that you take for granted with Holmes that are there right now that I think will go away. I think he'll shake the rust off.
Starting point is 01:25:08 still rolling right on third and ten that throw he made to seal the game it just tells you it's in there you just got to get it out of them down in and down out so and of course here's what makes Arizona so impressive like they find a way to win
Starting point is 01:25:24 with their backup quarterback and they're playing a division rival and not that well Niners might be better in the chiefs this year based on body of work so it ain't like the Packers drew the old chiefs I think this is impressive for the for the Cardinals jump
Starting point is 01:25:38 out 14-0-0 and never looking back um colt mccoy he looks 23 out there bro he's just you love to see it and and for contenders like seeing that and other teams other coaches you're like damn like even if the starter goes down they have a backup who's capable of playing who's put on tape that he's ready to go out and win a game if and when he needs to. Matt Moore a couple years ago, I think with Kansas City was so, I mean, like he, I think they might have beat Minnesota at home or they played them really tough. They picked up a couple gutsy wins with him.
Starting point is 01:26:22 I think Mahomes' knee was messed up that year. This was maybe the Super Bowl year. You know, it's really important to have that number two. It really is. And Colt did a great job. Kyler Murray with the ankle, this is the thing we talked about all the time last year, the shoulder injury against Seattle. You almost didn't know what happened.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Like you didn't know as serious as it was that it would linger that long. Same thing with the ankle. Like hopefully he's back next week. But I feel like was it when he ran out of bounds last week. He was running out of bounds trying to get the sticks, came up limping a little bit. So subtle that they even kind of missed it on the broadcast. But it's something that like he showed up on Thursday on the injury report.
Starting point is 01:27:01 And it just stayed there. And then they're able to actually win a game and get him the rest. James Connor, by the way. I was going to say, the trickle down and the good thing about the win in Colt McCoy playing so well is that if they do decide that Kyle and Miller maybe needs an extra week
Starting point is 01:27:20 for that ankle, they feel they definitely feel a lot better about hey, you know what? Let's give him another, let's give him another go. We feel like we give you another week and you come back even better because we all know how injuries work. Like no players playing that quote unquote a hundred percent and just in season trying to get something like an ankle for a mobile quarterback that another week might be really, really good for them just in the long run with it being the end of the season.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Yeah, no question. I mean, and James Connor, $1.75 million on his contract, a one year bet on himself. I mean, the guy's beating cancer. I mean, he's not worried about a one-year deal, dude. He's not worried about a one-year deal. Doesn't care at all. Love the guy. He was balling today.
Starting point is 01:28:12 He had almost 100 yards rushing. Saw him catch a ball to the back field with one hand, tuck it and then truck like two dudes. It looks great number six. That's a guy I'm hyped for. Eagles Chargers, my main team and my side team. This was tough, but like, look at that daylight. Look at that daylight savings paying off for this game
Starting point is 01:28:32 because this is the perfect daylight savings game that made it so much cooler when Devante Smith caught that ball to tie the game at 24. It was dark out. It's under the lights. Like it feels like real football. So yeah, there is a silver lining with daylight savings.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Also, by the way, that skyline looked gorgeous over the link. This was a game where one team was trying to run the ball and make things manageable for the quarterback who played really well. Jalen Hurst played well. I mean, he made some big throws. He hurt them with his legs in the red zone. multiple, you know, chances he created for his team by being able to tuck and be decisive,
Starting point is 01:29:06 roll right around the right side, doesn't matter, up the middle, wherever it is, he can pick it up. He did a flip. That might be the O.A. Award. Think about falling on your back from like seven feet in the air. I'm sitting there and I'm just like, oh, that looked like it was kind of acrobatic.
Starting point is 01:29:22 But in my head immediately, I'm like, that's unnatural what that guy just did. Jordan Howard, a big day for him. They didn't hit the 50, 50, 50, but 13 runs on a drive that ends up actually in a field goal. They missed Devante on an out. Devante was saying up top, up top, they didn't run the ball down there. But Jalen Hertz played well.
Starting point is 01:29:44 He really did. We've been complaining about making him do too much. And Siriani and Gannon, I think, in general, had pretty decent days. And if people in Philly are listening that read a column, you know, I'm sure you read about this game in more detail. and there's things that you're pretty pissed off about that I'm not because I was watching 14 games. But I thought overall this team got back from Vegas and got right.
Starting point is 01:30:10 I think they got their shit together and they went and won a ball game on the road, 38-0, that people were kind of like, that's impressive, but it's the Lions. Today they hosted a playoff team and they played them tight. They played them real tight. I know the defense didn't get the numbers rushing that some people wanted, but the point is to keep the points down. and the points were down. They had a chance to win that football game.
Starting point is 01:30:33 Herbert, though, slice, dice, whatever he wanted. That ball that he threw where he ran back to the 19, the right hash on the 19, sat there flat-footed and went Jugg's machine to the opposite 19. Like, it was a 60-something-yard throw. If you add the diagonal distance, I'm no mathematician, but I think it's probably an 80- or 90-yard throw. That's just what I'm going to go with.
Starting point is 01:30:59 you know cowboy what do you think probably like 111 over the mountains over the mountains wait a couple mountain ranges couple mountain ranges i wish they would just do that with him once a game just run backwards plant your feet and throw it really far in every passing category yeah he excelled when he had two and a half seconds or more to throw he was 17 of 18 for 218 yards a touchdown on play action he was nine of 10 for 137 and two touchdowns on seam routes 19 of 20 for 228 and two touchdowns. Big win for the charges. To get off the snide like that, I mean, they were looking bad.
Starting point is 01:31:39 I think some people thought that the line stunk. I was just saying to myself, I think people are down on the charges, understandably after the Ravens game, and then after last week as well. So big game winning field goal from a guy who got cut in Washington, evidently, for missing extra points because that field goal looked a lot like an extra.
Starting point is 01:31:59 point. The charges were ballsy. I like playing for the win. I don't like leaving a chance with a minute 40 to go going for it on fourth down. Overcame a bad spot in my opinion. A big win for them. Big win for them. So turning the tide the whole nine yards and the Eagles should be proud. They played their asses off. Titans, I mean these guys, they are cockroaches, man. Say this every week. You cannot kill them. Like if there is a major disaster, if there's a an incident, what do they call that, an extinction, an event, an event, if there's an event, all the football teams go away,
Starting point is 01:32:38 Titans will be the last one here. I mean, on the record, I bet Titans, okay? I bet Titans, I had Titans in the Under, finish the day off strong. My only logic was this. They basically played without Derek Henry for much of last week and beat a playoff caliber football team,
Starting point is 01:32:57 one that might not make the playoffs, but is currently a playoff caliber football team. Like the Ravens are using that win as a feather in their cap. So, sorry. And this week, it just went to show when you have two stud-wide receivers, one who got healthy and one who's been a terror, that you're always going to be able to threaten people
Starting point is 01:33:16 outside the numbers. You're going to be able to hang your hat on the run game because it's your kind of identity, even if you're missing your stud. And Tannahill is kind of sitting there. It's a big game for Tannahill to be like, although he wasn't perfect. He out-duled Matt Stafford,
Starting point is 01:33:31 everybody's darling, and he's got to feel good about like, okay, finally, Arthur Blanks's gone, Derek's gone, oh, it's just me, maybe I'll go beat one of the best teams in the league on the road, and everybody will say, maybe it was Ryan Tannahill all along.
Starting point is 01:33:49 So that's like a fun, maybe they get the best flight home. I, like, give them the best flight home. The Titans get the best flight home. home. The crown is flowing on a Mike Rable flight. I just feel like it is. I feel like Mike Frabble, he's got a Twitter. I honestly feel like Tennessee anytime they win, it's probably the best flight home. They probably have good flights. And they're going to get, you might as well win because you're going to get home at eight in the morning. You know? Like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:17 Yeah. We'll wrap this podcast before before, before they get home. So a big shout out to Jeffrey Simmons as well, who had three sacks in the first half. And when you, count your sacks on one hand. Anytime you count your sacks, you usually count for, you don't usually count for two, but when you get to three, you gotta, like you gotta put three in your celebration, like you do.
Starting point is 01:34:39 And Jeffrey Simmons did the one, the two, and the three right to the camera. He took over the first half. They took over the first half. They just punched the Rams in the mouth. I don't know if the Rams weren't ready to play, but the Titans are always ready to play. That's why I bet the Titans, and you should too.
Starting point is 01:34:55 And now after I, I basically, basically said Derek Henry's going to run out of gas this year. The Titans, I just can't believe that they're going to replicate this without Arthur Smith. They're in conversation for one of the best teams in the league if you look at their resume. Look at the last four to six weeks of what those guys have been up to. Yeah, and they went out and got your guy. Adrian Peterson. I know.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Quick story. I met Adrian Peterson with you. Shook the fuck out of your hand, huh? Yeah, and I went in for the cool, non-traditional handshake. Like, hey, what's up? What's up my guy? Yeah. And he went in for this business shake.
Starting point is 01:35:31 Yeah. And he caught my hand. It caught you by the fingers. And he didn't let me readjust and he shook my hand. Like, I was very upset. Like, the first time I met him, I thought he was mad at me. And I was like, why would you be mad at me, man? Like, why are you shaking my hand like that?
Starting point is 01:35:49 He's just got a firm handshake, dude. He's got a firm handshake. And I remember that. We met him down at the first. Orange Bowl? Yeah. Sam Bradford. Yep,
Starting point is 01:35:58 yeah. Boomer sooner. Yep. Boomer sooner. Yeah. So, I mean, Titans, man, they got to feel good
Starting point is 01:36:04 where they are right now. I don't want to go too in depth on the game because I would be irresponsible. I was watching it while we were prepping for this podcast. But big win on the road. This team just,
Starting point is 01:36:15 they never cease to amaze me. I'll put it that way. Never outdo themselves and they never cease to amaze me. It's hard to do both those things. Titans are doing it. A tough, hard-nosed football. always a good time watching the Italians too if you're betting the Titans it is facts it was good
Starting point is 01:36:33 better luck next week with your parley because that was that was unfair we're gonna get one one of these days but I'm just devastated because this was the week like I've been waiting for Jacksonville to win and I bet it and they won and I'm just waiting on Houston like like what are they doing? Like, what the hell are they doing? Like, why? Like, win a game. Like, win a game that you're supposed to win.
Starting point is 01:37:02 Yeah, no. Like, you know what I mean? You're going in there. You're playing a backup quarterback and you guys start, like, like, I don't even know, man. I don't even know. I don't either. But next week, I think your parlay is going to hit. I appreciate it.
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