Green Light with Chris Long - NFL Wild Card Reactions! Lions Win, Chiefs Beat Dolphins & Texans & Packers Are For Real.

Episode Date: January 15, 2024

LIONS WIN THEIR FIRST PLAYOFF GAME SINCE 1991! Chris Long, Kyle Long and Nate Collins react to the Wild Card round games and preview the Eagles vs Buccaneers game in Tampa and Steelers vs Bills game i...n Buffalo. (00:00) - America's Teams Presented by Miller Lite: Bobby Slowik, Jordan Love, CBS, Best Buy, Jimmy Sexton and Andy Reid (30:10) - Green Bay Packers Thrash the Dallas Cowboys (52:19) - Detroit Lions Avenge Jared Goff and Defeat the LA Rams (1:09:46) - Houston Texans Send the Browns to the Offseason (1:21:58) - Chiefs Freeze Tua and Dolphins Offense (1:35:30) - Miller Lite Mentions: Miami Dolphins, Skip Bayless, Taylor Swift Swag Surfin' and more! (1:50:37) - MNF Previews Delivered by Little Caesars: Steelers at Bills and Eagles at Bucs This podcast is brought to you by Cash App. With multiple tools for saving, spending, and sending, Cash App is the easy way to stay in control of your money. Cash App is a financial platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's bank partner(s). Make sure to check out Fax and the King every Wednesday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@FaxAndTheKing Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪(202) 991-0723‬ Send any Talent Search submissions to: social@chalkmedia.com Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And he deserves one of the game balls. You know why? Because the top pick made the Pro Bowl. Okay, not that that's necessarily, but he had the biggest holding call in Detroit Lions history, right? He drew that holding call, which changed the game completely for them last end of the game. Tackles an all pro.
Starting point is 00:00:17 You got a coach who's got the balls to throw on second and eight, really. And you got a wide receiver. You trust to catch the ball. And ultimately, you have a quarterback that as imperfect as he might be at times, he is good enough for Detroit. I think that's fucking awesome that they stuck the landing on it. And for Lions fans, I asked them after the game, what time did the bars close? And a lot of them said Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. NFL wildcard reactions. We talk the Lions ending their playoff drought, the Packers smacking the Cowboys, the Chiefs freezing out the Dolphins in Tua, and the Texans arriving. A young team, they showed up. Are they one of the scariest teams in the NFL playoffs right now? We also preview the Eagles' Bucks game and the Steelers' Bills game later tonight. We give you our Miller Light moments and our America's teams.
Starting point is 00:01:12 It's a wildly fun show. Come back on Wednesday. We're going to recap Monday night's games, and we have a very special guest. You all enjoy it. I think maybe the layup line would be Amarillo by morning. Up from San Antonio. You think you could climb anywhere in Texas, Badala. Do you think you could climb Niagara Falls in this weather?
Starting point is 00:02:02 Is it dry? I mean, when you need a picket? Is ice wet? Yeah, I think if somebody would have done it, they would already done it. If somebody was capable of doing it, they would already done it. And if they didn't, they're just in there. They're just in there. I saw a video of a guy that got stuck under a waterfall.
Starting point is 00:02:18 You always wonder what under a waterfall looks like, these kayakers? There's always a loot crate. Guy ended up on, no, there's not a loot crate. Like, there's a big undertow under the waterfall in some ways. Like, you can get sucked under the, yeah, like, death is under the waterfall. You always like, I'd like to go in there. No. Uh, nah. Okay. So we're talking about, yeah, if you had one respawn, what would you do, Kyle? If I had one respawn, man, I'd just go about my business a little bit more aggressively. Can I get
Starting point is 00:02:46 you my answer later? Yeah. Okay. I'm going to interject at some point. Yeah, okay. If I had one, one respawn, I'm eating whatever I want. You know what I mean? Did you get, yeah, dude. That might be it. That might be it. If I had a respawn, I've never done like those intense hallucinogenic drugs that people say are life changing you got to go on it. It's basically like a response. I would go, no, no, I would go and do as much as I could of that stuff to try to cure whatever it is that I have. And then if I did have an incurable effect from the situation that I just got myself in. And just respond. Reson. And then go again. And don't do it. Don't do it. Iwaska. Things like that. A strange. We don't need to get into ayahuasca. Guys, it would be a strange brew. Happy MLK Day. Yeah. Uh, which is news.
Starting point is 00:03:29 for a lot of people on the Dallas Cowboys Reddit because I hopped on the Reddit to be like what's going on no hold on I said what's going on inside the mushroom cloud that is Dallas cowboys fandom and one of the most upvoted post was like how bad are you going to get it at work tomorrow and like a guy was like thankfully I'm okay had a dream and I think it was news to most cowboys fans they were just so wrapped up and they only remember the alamo yeah exactly I don't remember that. There was also MLK Jr. I think if you asked most people what happened at the Alamo, they really couldn't tell you. That's the irony of it. I just like saying it. Yeah, some people died. It was ugly. All right, so happy Martin Luther King Day. Hopefully everybody's at home.
Starting point is 00:04:13 We're not taking the day off because football happened and more football is going to happen later today. And with that, let's begin our America's teams, Kyle, before we get to these four games. Get into these America's teams. Look, I know C.J. Stroud's unbelievable. He's potentially the greatest quarterback that ever lived. And I'm kind of like tongue-in-cheek, but I'm kind of dead serious. Better than any quarterback that will ever be born. Number one, Bobby Sloick's offense. That's my number one America's team, because if you're looking to just change some things,
Starting point is 00:04:43 and I understand you're not going to bring CJ Stroud with you, but you got to go get Bobby Sloick, right? You got to go get Bobby Slovak. And say, whatever you did there, give us 68% of that with our ball club. And I promise you, we've got a fighting chance. That's number one, Bobby Spokes offense. I love it. Number two, Jordan Love's early investors.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Oh, man. I forget what movie it was where he was like, Amazon. He was giving his buddy a heads up. He had like access to the information. He was like, Amazon. Check this out. Jordan Love. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Okay. Somewhere in Utah. I'm not quite sure where Utah State is, but there was somebody out there is like, you got to see this kid throw the damn football, man. He jumps up in the air and twists his torts it. or so around. Doesn't matter what kind of coverage. It's unbelievable. So Jordan Love early investors. Congratulations. You get to screenshot your
Starting point is 00:05:34 tweets and post them again and say, I told you so. Go. And you can say a big buck you. By the way, can you pull up us from midseason when we said Jordan loves the issue, the answer. Number one. People are doing that. Yeah. We were like, we said it. He looks like Aaron Rogers. Well, you know, the looks like Aaron Rogers. Better than him. But, you know, he hits some bumps in the road. And I don't think we ever jumped off the bandwagon here. We've always liked Jordan Love. Jordan Love. It's going to be tough. And it makes me, it makes me really fearful thinking about the Chicago thing.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Thinking about the gap because we have the Lions thing on lock. We understand how to beat Detroit. But the gap is wide between two and one, the obvious one in Green Bay. I turned to Nolan last night. And listen, it's not a win or lose thing for me when you have a take on like Justin Fields or something. but I'm willing to be to be I'm willing to have a trade discussed after seeing that performance last night. You know, I know you're like full on pumping the brakes, but and I still think it's a crapshoot, but that doesn't help if they're sitting there thinking, hey, I kind of want to, I kind of want to, you know, trade, not trade the pick. I want to keep the pick. It's hard to argue with the, you know, what you saw on TV last night. It was like playing on easy mode.
Starting point is 00:06:53 almost. It's like against the good defense. At home. That's what they say. It was like Dan Quinn didn't show up. It's like all those years of experience that Dan Quinn is a community. The interview bug, man. Guys with the interview bug. They don't So now I'm like, is Dan Quinn going to get hired anywhere? Okay, I digress. That's number two. We love early investors. Way to go. Guys and gals.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Number three, The Rock. Chris, which rock? The Rock. Dwayne. Johnson. What do you do? Well, he merged a couple leagues. And now they're going to be one league. and it's called the UFL. And it's going to be in the springtime. It's the bridge the gap for people like me
Starting point is 00:07:29 who will need a slow, steady drip of football. And, yeah, we're going to have it. There's eight teams. We've got the Birmingham Stallions, the Houston Roughnecks, the Memphis showboats, the Michigan Panthers, the Arlington, Texas, renegades, the D.C. defenders, San Antonio Brahma's. I've got to get a Google search on what Abramah is.
Starting point is 00:07:47 And the St. Louis Battlehawks, we're going to figure out right now, let's just choose our team. Rock's Nick name. It's based on names. Rupnick. Oh, my favorite team. Rupnick.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I'm a Battlehawks fan, man. Dude, they play in the Edward Jones dome. So I'm a battlehog. I'm going to pick the DC defenders just based on the fact that they have a 20,000 seating capacity at Audi Field in Washington, D.C., which tells me they're going to have that thing packed to the fucking bills. Come to D.C., you got to deal with the 12th man. Mm-hmm. And that's my number three.
Starting point is 00:08:22 the Rock. I know we got to the D.C. Defenders there, but the Rock is my number three America's team. Number four, CBS. I'm not going to say the other guys, which we do have a family member that works with other guys. Yeah, there you go. It's a three-letter word. CBCOX. Well, not Peacock. That's the point here, because Peacock makes you pay. Listen, ma'am. I know. I know. People at home are like, yeah, you guys are rich, but like, you guys at home have vices. One less pack of cigarettes a month. You can buy Pete. One less Zia in a month, you'll buy Peacock. You know?
Starting point is 00:08:55 It's not about- Not about five bucks and it was worth money, but what it's about to me, the ease of access, you know what I'm saying? I just let people get over on me. I don't care. It's ease of access because time is money and time spent with my neck crooked down looking at my phone is not how I want to spend. I want to spend it looking at the TV or maybe looking at press guide, sports, live. Look, the game's right there. You don't know how to screen share?
Starting point is 00:09:23 CBS lets you do that. Him. You don't know how to screen share? So you don't want to look at your phone? This is a tutorial time. This is America's team. You got it. Oh. You got it.
Starting point is 00:09:31 He doesn't like tech support. I hate. Geek Squad comes to Kyle's house. He flips their car and beats them all up. I got fired it off. I got carried away. You definitely have like a smart TV. So like instead of looking at your phone, there's a button that you can press.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yeah. You can beam what you're looking at your phone. Okay. Straight to your TV. So how do I control it if it's on my... Through your phone. So like, I can still hold my phone normal.
Starting point is 00:09:54 You can play, yeah, you can do whatever you want on your phone. You can text people. So it's not going to, sometimes you do that and the overlay comes up where you have to press up, down, left, right. Hey, I don't like that. I only know the base. It's all fucked up, Kyle, because I got three remote controls now for my TV. Again, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:08 The smart TV thing is stupid, but. CBS, thanks for staying true. And if you didn't tune in on Sunday to Tops, we got to get a really special interview with Jim Nance and Tony Romo from the hotel. room with a blizzard behind them and they were both in the black turtle next i think i'm going to get drunk tonight jim it was hilarious and jim snitched on tony jim said you know we're under a travel ban here in buffalo and all the people are staying home and safe and tony has a brand new vehicle which he took out for a spin on the road last damn and tony he was like well jim you know this was
Starting point is 00:10:45 before the travel ban it was clear that that wasn't discussed well the travel ban was 9 p.m trolling by Jim because they're just killing time. They're sitting in a hotel room. They don't know when the game's getting playing. So I thought there was a vet move by Jim to be like, hey, Tony, how were the roads last? Dude, if I was snowed in Buffalo, I think. And that brand new Mayback. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:04 I would just get shit-faced. I wouldn't need to drive anywhere. I'd just be walking through the streets. Those guys are led. Bar-to-bar. Number four, CBS. Number five, the Dallas Cowboys. Hear me out.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Okay? Because they got lovable guys. I mean, C.D. Lamb, how do you? you not root for C.D. Lamb. Easy. Easy. Fax wasn't root for him at all. If you were at the live stream yesterday, Fax is like the next, who's the, is it
Starting point is 00:11:31 Inky something? Like, who's the guy that goes to E. Inkey Johnson? Inkey Johnson. Your team's struggling, just have Inkey Johnson and your team struggling just have Dr. Faxon. He'll cuss, he'll dog cuss all your players. Like Jimmy Johnson? He should do the, yeah, the worst. He should do the exit meetings for every cowboy. They have to
Starting point is 00:11:47 go see Dr. Fass. In a black suit? In his suit. That's it right there. You got to see the black hat. TD Lamb yesterday, bro. Dak Prescott, he's a lovable quarterback. He doesn't have a top tier ceiling, in my opinion. Yeah, he's got 36 tuds on the year, but that's a byproduct of having a really great team.
Starting point is 00:12:04 They got a good old line. You got Micah Parsons, one of the most exciting defensive players in football, and a bevy of other guys on that side of the ball. And look, you got Jerry Jones, you got Jerry's World, you got one of the coolest stadiums in the world on the planet, and you know you're going to make a splash higher. So number five, America's teams, opportunists, just like the early Jordan love investors, they saw that as an opportunity to hop on a bandwagon.
Starting point is 00:12:29 You can hop on the Cowboys bandwagon. Usually people are burning jerseys. Yeah. But I think they might gain some fans because it might be more in. You've got to buy the dip. Buy the dip. Number five, America's team, Dallas Cowboys. I think some sort of natural disaster would have to destroy AT&T Stadium for there to be the kind of dip
Starting point is 00:12:46 where they're like an asset you'd want to buy low on. Because I think it's judging by everybody's mentions and like looking at like people hate the cowboys, man. And I don't even hate the Cowboys. They're just more entertaining to me at this point. And not in like a ha ha ha, ha, I'm laughing at you. It's more like it's good for TV. It is. But Cowboys is probably the only franchise that diehard other fans of teams like enjoy rooting against them.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Yes. If that makes sense. No, I don't think that. I think the Eagles have fallen into that category. some more there. Yeah, Eagles definitely. Cowboys are just the biggest example. Yeah. It's like in NASCAR and the Yankees. Our rivalries. It was Dale Earnhardt Jr. versus Jeff Gordon. And Dale Earnhardt, uh, senior was three. He was like, you know, the old school, he did it the old school way. And then the Raiders, Jeff Gordon came along and he was flashed at the rainbow
Starting point is 00:13:41 warrior. And people were like, fuck Jeff Gordon. Yeah. And there was people that were like three, but also. Pinched on his school and shit. They had kids. Pins and Trans-A-Sty-Schools. 24 is on the back of C-1, whatever the fuck they are. Yeah. What do you mean? The pickup truck. C-10s?
Starting point is 00:13:58 C-10. Yeah, C-1-0. C-3POs. God loves truck. There's two-doors. Short bed. That's good. That's good.
Starting point is 00:14:07 You know what I'm talking? C-Tens. A lot of them. A lot of them out there. A lot of kids pissing on the top of C-10. Yeah, a lot of people's pissing on Jeff Gordon in the back of a C-10. All right. That's the cowboy.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Is it, it's the time for my America's teams. I'm going to try to work fast, okay? Number one, Best Buy, America's team, because Best Buy, they love Dallas Cowboys. They love Dallas Cowboys. They love Dallas Cowboys fans. Because what did Dallas Cowboys fans do? They destroy their electronics. That's good.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Don't they just destroy their electronics? Like, they are the number one electronics destroying group of people on the planet. And they strike me as non-warranty buying motherfuckers. They're like, they're paying in full 20. Yeah. They're like the guys from office space. That's who Dallas Cowboys fans are. So, and also,
Starting point is 00:14:50 I think for Best Buy they're looking at it. They're like, it's kind of nice because all these people are gonna break the TVs. They're the same people who are just lined up outside the door on Black Friday. Like there's something that they have in common. Dallas Cowboys, people that go to brick and mortar stores and beat each other up for a fucking telitubby every year.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Or our version of the Telitubby and the people that destroy the TVs. Now, I know some of you're gonna be upset, like I'm an anti-Calbys guy, but just I'm having fucking fun this morning. Okay, America's teams, Best Buy, number one. Bama fans, number two. Can you roll that audio? This is from the Paul Finebaum show. Is this real?
Starting point is 00:16:10 So the guy's real broke up because Nick Saving retired, but he's fucking, he's furious because he heard they might hire Dabo. And I felt the same way. As a Hyde fan, I don't know if I was going to send my kids to Alabama. You see, that thing was upside out. We can turn it right side up again, our Alabama flag, because it's not going to be Dabo. It's going to be Dabour from Washington.
Starting point is 00:16:29 And that leads me my next America's teams. Jimmy Sexton clients. This guy's the kingmaker, an agent to the stars of college football. This guy... This guy is. Yeah, well, I think now people realize. Number one, Saban retires. That's his client.
Starting point is 00:16:45 He uses it as an opportunity to get leverage for Sark, Norvell, and Lannning. They all get raises. And then his guy, DeBore, gets the job at Alabama. I mean, this guy had a weekend. So Jimmy Sexton, clients, you are America's team. Is there anybody who makes content information more palatable than this guy, Joe Pompiliano? Oh, he's really good at it. He's a good guy.
Starting point is 00:17:10 He makes it so easy for a slow-brained idiot like myself. He's good at. He's good at. He's good at. Legend from Alabama was going to rip his arm off and beat himself with it. That's a good name for a kid. He was going to set himself on fire at the 50-yard line. Poor gasoline all over himself.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Set himself like a monk. I'm going to beat the head. Listen. That, like, think about whatever that monk. was going through to do that how serious whatever it was like it was like life and death it was like you know like they were being persecuted those guys okay and look with the alabama guys gonna light himself on fire over dabbo sweeney coming to town that's how passionate these motherfuckers are we're not talking about taking your housing we're not talking about like world war
Starting point is 00:17:50 three we're not they're surrendering themselves to a power greater than you're if you're if you're dabbo and you hear that clip how do you feel oh uh like i'm like i'm god because that's how i feel every day anyways. Whoever punched him in the eye was like, he was like, thank you. Can you explain to me what happened? I saw the picture of that. I don't think anybody knows.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Really? I don't think anybody knows. Maybe somebody in the chat knows. Okay. This is my next one, guys, and you know, you know me. Outdoor football fans, okay? I just want to say this. I like grass.
Starting point is 00:18:21 I like grass stains. I like seeing the fucking the steam coming off a guy like you's head, you know? Guy like you, steam coming off your head. Miles Gair. Like the guy from the Chicago Bears. You remember the guy from the Chicago Bears in the 90s that had all that steam coming off his head? There's an iconic picture. I think his last name starts with Z.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Somebody in the chat's going to know. I like coaches looking like they're stationed in Antarctica. I like all that stuff. They're looking uncomfortable. Also, you can't do flyovers indoors. Okay. An outdoor football argument has been waging all week long. It's been the weather.
Starting point is 00:18:57 People have been showing me, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, And, you know, like, it's kind of an existential crisis the way I look at it because football is supposed to be played outside. These people want a Buffalo Dome. Okay, the game got moved anyways. It was going to get moved anyways because of the snowstorm, even if we had the Buffalo Dome, nothing would change. They'd move it to Monday. So if you got your Buffalo Dome, you got your Dome football kind of world, you'd still have to move. There's a fucking travel advisor. What do you guys expect? Unless you're going to dome the entire county, like the same. Simpsons, you're not going to play this game until Monday. So things are going to happen. And by the way, these anti- Who's to say they can't do it? Israel has an iron dome. We can just do a glass one. They have an iron dome. It's the name of their missile defense system. Okay, got it. It's literally the
Starting point is 00:19:45 most expensive missile defense system on the plane. Okay. And you can't see it. Well, so it'll be like having a glass one. You could just play games in, in February and January and Buffalo. Whatever they built that iron dome about, and I'm sure they have a lot, they have a lot of real reasons. But like, You know, like, it's, well, they think that's an existential threat. You know what I think is an existential threat to American society is these people that want football inside. I think you guys are like, it's up there with misinformation and, you know, something else. And then indoor football. These are the existential crises of our time.
Starting point is 00:20:21 You know, I think if you move, you know, some people would say, hey, if you move the stadium, Kyle, to California. The bills had to move because we can't take this anymore. California or Florida. Take the bills to Mexico City. Can you imagine all the... You want to talk about dangerous, Kyle? All the Mexican guys with Josh. I'm not talking about Mexico City being a dangerous place.
Starting point is 00:20:38 There's a high crime rate and all that shit. And yet the cartel might snatch you up, but they play that fucking game at 8,000 feet. You think that's not more dangerous than playing on what I saw Saturday night. Get the fuck out of here. Okay? On top of that, move the team. Some people are like, well, you just can't have teams in Buffalo, okay, which is stupid. You move to California and Miami.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Look it up. I did. Hurricanes have moved more games than fucking soccer. snowstorm since 2000. So nothing sacred when it comes to hurricanes. Hurricanes will fuck up the dome down in New Orleans. They'll fuck up Reliance Stadium. Hurricane, nothing
Starting point is 00:21:09 sacred. They moved the Governor's Cup, which is a course. I played for a coach who had a dome fall on him. Huh? Chris? Huh? Move them to Canada. No. Guys, no. Okay. Is it unsafe? Did the guys look unsafe out there Saturday night? Ken City Chiefs were dancing. You know what's unsafe? All those unhealthy people up in the stands, they
Starting point is 00:21:27 did just fine. I talked to people. We're the game. They said the walk to the truck was kind of tough, but we were fine. Okay, you know what's unsafe about NFL stadium? There's enough fireball at Arrowhead to kill the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line. That's unsafe. But we don't care about that stuff. We want to act like we're worried about the players and how cold it is. Let's say you build a dome in Buffalo. Take 2010 the Metro Dome in Minnesota. You know what happened there? Do you remember that? Yeah. Okay. And I'm an American who likes outdoor football, so I don't measure things in the metric system, but they said half a meter of snow was on top of that roof.
Starting point is 00:22:01 And what do you think happened? It fucking collapsed. Okay? What if the Minnesota Vikings were in that stadium? It'd be catastrophic. They'd still have the little black patches on their jerseys. Those guys would have got crushed by the roof that fell down. Okay?
Starting point is 00:22:16 And you could say, hey, yeah. Yeah. Bear with me here. You could say that that's unsafe. And, you know, you would fix it if you built a new dome because that dome was obsolete. But you know what costs a lot of money? A fucking new dome. You know what costs a lot of money?
Starting point is 00:22:29 A new stadium. You know what costs more than a new stadium? A stadium with a new dome. So you're going to make the people of Buffalo pay for a stadium and the roof? Are you kidding me? You coastal elites? Like, what are you going to? Here, I can see it now in New York Post.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Buffalo roofer can't make ends meet because he has to chip in on Josh Allen's roof. Are you fucking kidding me? That's what you want the Buffalo people to do, the good people of Buffalo who you profess to be worried about in a situation. Don't tell Buffalo what they want, what they need. Please. I'm telling you. Okay. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:23:03 When they replaced the Metro Dome, that stadium killed birds. True. What? Yeah. Dude. A lot of birds, bro. Like, so, like, honestly, a lot of that is satire. A lot of that is a little bit like me playing a caricature of myself, but I firmly believe
Starting point is 00:23:20 that outdoor football in the cold is not dangerous. Google NFL player freezes to death. You can't. You can't find anything. Do it. I found it. NFL or football player anywhere freezing. Can you imagine if every game in Buffalo, they have to like run out past a couple
Starting point is 00:23:36 frozen dead bodies like Mount Everest? But that's what these people online are making it seem like and they're like, this is just unsafe. You are watching football. Like a body slide. Football is unsafe. They just put it in a refrigerator. Look at the end of the game.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Guys with no sleeves dancing around on the side of the field. They won the game. They're happy. They don't feel the cold. They want to get inside, but they don't feel the cold. They're sweaty and stuff. That's like hypothermic. What about the equipment malfunction?
Starting point is 00:24:04 We never seen that before. Well, that was something different, but I don't think that was an unsafe thing. I think the shell of the helmet, then you replace the helmet. The shell, the shell's not like the shell breaking because of the cold? I don't know. Did he die? Is he okay? You know, is he okay?
Starting point is 00:24:18 No, but I mean, the last thing I'll say is this. And I just, I mean, we could debate outdoor versus indoor football all day long. You know, it being unsafe, you know, the, the checks are not. not in your column. And this game getting moved is not a check in your column. If you're, you're anti-outdoor football. Just, I want you to do something. I want you to admit something. If you're at home and you're like, Chris, you're an idiot. I want you to admit something. You don't care about player safety. You just want to see the men throw the ball far. Just say that. Like what Kurt Warner said, which he came out and said it, he's one of the men that used to
Starting point is 00:24:49 throw the ball far. And he was like, I don't like seeing guys not be able to throw the ball far. You know what I like? Kurt and others. Every fucking week, y'all have advantage. that nobody else on the field has. For one week a year, you can't overcome those disadvantages that we often do as defensive linemen and other people. Like, I don't care. Crime me a River, put the game outside. I hope it's cold as shit. The rest of the playoffs, I love watching it.
Starting point is 00:25:13 It's part of what, it's part of the fabric of what makes football football. It's part of what gets people excited to root for games like Chicago in these later months. I mean, it's what makes the fall games, the week one through six games, so special in a place like Chicago and Buffalo because they know that eventually winter's coming like Game of Thrones and they're going to be involved in the battle, right? Yeah, I mean like... And not only do the players have to show up, but the fans have to show up.
Starting point is 00:25:38 And the Green Bay fans, the Chicago fans, the Buffalo fans, Pittsburgh. That's going to be a travest thing they put a roof on some stadium of Buffalo. We talked about that too. This is the time of year is just when you know it's coming and you really don't, when you don't control your fate like in the playoffs, this is the stuff you have to worry about and you have to deal with going somewhere where you're not used to playing in the element
Starting point is 00:26:01 that's what makes there something to play for that's why that Miami game was so damn big and that's why it's football exactly and that's too damn I know I'm yelling a lot but but I know everything has to be perfectly safe well then let's not play football let's not drive to the game I could be that asshole and be like statistically the chance of you dying
Starting point is 00:26:16 on the way to the game or higher than playing in a football game at minus 30 or and it wasn't even minus 30 it was minus 30 with the fucking wind show please That's what it felt like. It felt like minus 30. I feel like I could make up a whole bunch of things I'm feeling right now. It's like I can eat a whole cow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:36 All right. Here's the last one. Andy Reed's mustache. America's teams. America's teams, Andy Reed's mustache hairs. The way they fucking bound together with snot, they congealed. It was gross. It was incredible, bro.
Starting point is 00:26:49 It was just gross. It was incredible. Because I don't just snot and nasty shit, like just all frozen. in there, bro, you know you're this big, you, you be, you got a beard like that. You know, you know, you know when it's cold. Don't you have a faceware? You know when it's cold. You get that runny, that run nose into your beard.
Starting point is 00:27:06 It's not on my mustache. I don't have that mustache like him. Yes, you do. I have one of those for it. Tarik Cohen used to say, you smell everything you say, huh? Can I, can I go my Axis of Evil? Dick, okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:27:17 So I did my America's teams, now I want to do Access of Evil. Uh-oh. Which is, of course, Chicago Bulls fans. Okay. Dude, what the fuck? Now, hold on a minute here, Kyle, because it gets worse, okay? I hear a lot of things like game of telephone. I'm watching football, and people are like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:27:34 They just booed Jerry Krause in Chicago, and they made his wife cry. And I'm like, well, that's so fucked up. Like, immediately I'm on the side of the Krauses. And immediately, I think there's some things that you're just like, hey, like, I feel bad. Don't do that. And you could say, yeah, well, Philly would have done it. I've never seen Philly do exactly this. You want to say Philly through a fucking snowball is of Santa Claus.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Santa Claus isn't real. That's not the real one. You know who's real? The Krause is, okay? And just because Michael Jordan hates him, I don't want to get in the wheeze with you guys about you're not reasonable people booing Jerry Krause. Especially because this morning I found out he was dead. You didn't know he was. I forgot about the fucking the documentary from the.
Starting point is 00:28:16 That's why he was a scapegoat in the last dance. I understand, bro, but I forgot. Bro. With all the football I watched, all this shit. They were like, fuck Jerry Crowe. Sometimes I forget things, Kyle. And Jerry Krause is dead. You didn't just make, you cowards?
Starting point is 00:28:30 It was the worst. You couldn't boo him to his face. I know you probably did. But you just ended up booing his widow. You're so wrong. Send her flowers or something. Yes, I want to send her. I want to send her, yeah, I don't know what I want to send.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Like something. I want to send her something because I feel really bad. And flowers isn't going to make it right. Because this woman, she's lived her whole life. She's married to this guy, Jerry Kraus, who died. And his one moment, you guys boo him and make her cry. Like insanity, dude. Now, I think it was-
Starting point is 00:28:58 some things are off-limit. I think it was Ron Harper that was there who immediately went behind her and put his hand on her shoulders and was talking to her in the moment. He should have Ron Harper and the guy that helped with the national anthem. She was thankful. She was really thankful in the moment. Shout out to Ron Harper, okay? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:14 That's what a man does in that moment. What are you going to boo Ron Harper too? No, no, but like, he didn't even make a big deal out of it. He was like, I'm here with you. Like, we love you. You know what I mean? it was cool to see it. I forgot Jerry Kraus is dead.
Starting point is 00:29:24 You should see it this morning. It's the only silver lining. Kyle, I was in here like Axis of Evil, these Chicago Bulls fans. Can you believe it? And I'm like going to look it up and I'm, I forgot for a second. I'm like, oh my God, he's dead. It's even worse. You're just booing a dead guy.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Shout to Ron Harper. Next up, America's team for me is the Freedom Caucus getting bigger. Freedom Caucus is growing. Head coach carousel, huh? Yeah. And it might grow today with the Cowboys losing. in. Did that happen yet?
Starting point is 00:29:55 Not yet. Not yet. Maybe we'll get a breaking news during the show. I'm in the Vermita triangle right now. Yeah. From like 1 o'clock to 3 o'clock, we're just chatting it up, and then sometimes we find out shit is happening. Yeah, I wonder what's going on right now.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Well, here's the deal. I think probably it's probably the end for McCarthy. Even whether it's fair or unfair, we're going to talk about DAC and we're going to talk about the game in a little bit here. But I think for Cowboys fans, and I laid this out earlier. posts the social about it. But guys, think about how crazy this is. Jerry Jones has been waiting the whole century, right?
Starting point is 00:30:29 It's been 23 years of losses like this. You go through the losses, right? 2006, Romo botches the field goal, 2007. You remember Romo was on the beach, the by week before the divisional round. They became the first team that lost as the number one in the divisional round since the playoffs expanded in 1990.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Who they lose to? The Giants, which made it worse, who went on to win a Super Bowl. 2009, they get blown out 34 to 3 by the Vikings. So bad that Wade Phillips thinks they run up the score. 2014, Des caught it. Okay, the nightmare continues, right? Right into yesterday.
Starting point is 00:31:03 But 2016, guys, when they had Dakota Prescott, young rookie quarterback at a Mississippi state, and they had Zee-L-Ele-L-Hle-H. Well, back in the day, well, he thinks it's Dax. Back in the day, he thinks it's like Dax Shepard. Dax. He puts an X on the end of Dad all the time. Dakota's a great name.
Starting point is 00:31:22 name okay but they thought at that point they feel like the Texans felt like right now without the baggage that Dallas Cowboys fans carry around but like they were like we have a rookie quarterback and a rookie running back we got a great old line we're going to be here a while they were playing Aaron Rogers in 2016 and they they battled back they were down 15 they tied it twice Rogers broke their backs on that Jared Cook's catch on the side yes on the left sideline so they coming out of the game what do you think they said they probably said this is different We got a young quarterback. He was in his first start against an MVP candidate over there.
Starting point is 00:31:55 And they made a great play. And they made a great play. We'll be back. They get paid too. And they've been back a lot, okay? Fast forward to last night. That same franchise that replaced that MVP trotted out a quarterback in his first playoff start at Jerry's World to beat your MVP candidate at one point this year in
Starting point is 00:32:14 DAC. And that is insane symmetry to me. Insane symmetry. on top of the fact that the guy on the sideline in 2016 is the guy you're thinking about firing right now. So they've tried everything. The one thing that Jerry hasn't tried enough is switching quarterbacks. I know the guy just had an MVP run. You gave Romo 13 years.
Starting point is 00:32:33 You've given DAC 7, 8 years. And I think Dak's a good player in a lot of teams. You know where you send Dak down to Miami. Oh, that could be fun. I'm just saying, man, because the same results keep happening. And I have complimented DAC. if he'd have won the MVP, if you took away the Buffalo game, which is an if game.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Before that game, I was on board with. Yeah, give it to him. But the MVP race doesn't mean that the guy's the quarterback of the future. Yeah. Just being in the race doesn't mean you're the quarterback of the future, especially for a team when you look up and they said, remember when Tony was done. It was like, oh, it's going to be better now.
Starting point is 00:33:08 It's Dak, that's different. Tony couldn't get us over the hump. They're in the same position. I looked at their stats in the playoffs. Same quarterback rating. Last night, before yesterday, it was 2 and 4 in 20. and four. Now it's two and four and two and five. So be my guess. If you want to keep spinning the wheel on this thing, like I think people deserve chances and Dax's had a ton. Maybe he just needs
Starting point is 00:33:28 a change of scenery. Yeah, change a senior, I think for everybody there in Dallas. And you watch that game and I give a lot of credit to Matt LaFleau for having conviction and having a game plan that if and when they did win the opening toss, they were going to receive the kickoff and go down and score. They did just that. But for Dallas, it was the lack of reaction to seeing what Green Bay was doing offensively. The downhill runs from Aaron Jones were awesome. They were getting bullied up front. I think Dan Quinn could have done more schematically to be able to...
Starting point is 00:33:58 Obviously, the pressure is getting to Jordan Love, but Jordan Love is excelling at throwing off his back foot and making you pay for it on the back end. I think you've got to put more guys in coverage. Because when Dax's on the field, and now I'm going to talk about McCarthy, every completion, it seems like there's three guys swarming around the ball. It's the tightest window throwing you've ever seen to,
Starting point is 00:34:18 Ferguson and he comes down with it. You're like, who's got it? Is it an interception? Is it a catch? Is it an interpletion? That's what the offense is. And if it's not that, it's the hitches, the five-yard stuff. It's just not looking dynamic enough. And it shows its teeth when you play a team like Jordan Love and Matt LaFleur's offense, who
Starting point is 00:34:34 can score at will. And last night, you were kind of reminded of it watching Dallas or Detroit and the Rams at the beginning of that game. You're like, Detroit can can score all day. We can't do field goals. We can't do anything other than score. And that's the position. Dallas found themselves in. They didn't adjust. And it looked like the same game from the jump to the finish.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Should we break this game down now? Should we talk about Dallas and Green Bay probably first? I'm going to make an executive decision and say yes. Go, pet. Go. How awesome was that? Because this is related to the Freedom Caucus. I mean, it was awesome because, I mean, we're big Don Tavian Wix fans in my house, UVA guy.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Romeo Dobbs. And Dobbs. I've been, if there's a fan club for Dodgers. Robbs, bro. What did you ask me in the third quarter? What's that? It was me. I asked you. It's their number one. You go, is there, do they have a number one, like a true number one in the future? I said, this guy Romeo Dobbs to me can be special. I really do believe that. I've been saying that. And like, it's like clockwork, the very next second to hit another big chunk to this guy, his size, explosiveness. The fact that all these guys are growing up together, Wicks, who's been a great man beater, Reed, who's great inside.
Starting point is 00:35:45 and a lot of these guys were not people you thought of. You talk about Dobbs in like the fourth round out of Nevada. Like you've got loads of talent out there and you've got more capital to spend this in the next year. I'm going to put this out there early. Like the script writers, they're a little favorable for Green Bay. It's just like Green Bay,
Starting point is 00:36:04 they had a run with Aaron Rogers and like they're about to start. They're about to potentially start another run. Are they doing things right? Are they doing things right? You know, I think the script favors the team. that take their time with their quarterbacks. I mean, we were looking at that. I want to talk about it more later in the week,
Starting point is 00:36:20 but look at a lot of the guys that really have taken off in this league, they haven't gotten thrown right in the fire. And I know as a high draft, it's fucking hard in the beginning. The expectations are huge, and there's probably a reason you're on that team because they're bad.
Starting point is 00:36:34 So, like, your chances of success early on or not high, add to that the fact that you're the guy that touches the ball every single play. You know, like every play, you're not only worried about the footwork, you have to remember doing a handoff, like, you know, the protections that you have to set, the route combinations, which, where's this guy going to break this off versus what coverage?
Starting point is 00:36:55 Like, God, I could not imagine being 22 years old and being handed the keys to one of the most important franchises in the league, depending on who you get drafted by, the pressure of that thing, the way everybody's looking at you. And so why I'm nervous about high draft picks is it's just tough. And so when you rest, when you not rest them, but you kind of like, you, you kind of like, phase him in correctly, you at least have a better chance of getting it. I saw Jordan Love play against Kansas City a couple years ago. He did not look like him, right?
Starting point is 00:37:26 And maybe if he had kept playing another four or five games in a row, people would have been like, yeah, this guy's toast. I think it was really important. I think it says something. I think it says something. They were making on the broadcast about how that offense with Aaron Rock, so like Matt LaFleur, he comes with his roll of decks of plays and his knowledge of the game and offense and installation.
Starting point is 00:37:44 and obviously if you have a ball of clay, it's perfect to pair with your knowledge. Yeah. Well, he gets there and it's Aaron Rogers. Aaron's like, this is the way I like to do things. You know what I'm saying? So you have to tailor everything you do. So Jordan Love was getting a bite off of a cheeseburger
Starting point is 00:38:02 that was cooked for Aaron Rogers, and now he's cooking with his own brew. Matt LaFleur is able to work that ball of clay, and it seems like they've hit everything the right way with Jordan Love. I mean, people are naked, booty naked open in the middle of the field. Jordan loves getting rid of that football in time. And when he's not, when he's on his third read, and there's guys in his lap, he can make the throw.
Starting point is 00:38:27 That's what separates him to me. Okay, like, you know, you look at like West Coast offenses. If you got a good coach, there's going to be a place to go with the ball. There's going to be an easy answer. But the guys that can extend plays, watch his drop targets. and he's not a bailer. He's not doing things like unsoundly. He just has a really good feel for the pocket.
Starting point is 00:38:48 He can make himself a new pocket. He can drift. His eyes are always downfield. And his feet are moving. You know, like he's never just standing in quicksand. I mean, he really does on some of the arm angle stuff. Remind you, Rogers. I get that.
Starting point is 00:39:02 It's a little bit tired at this point. But I think this guy, when he can, with the way they have guys outside that can, after three seconds are going to be open. Like, this offense can get guys open if the down goes two and a half, three seconds. And they're all young and they're all growing up together. He's the guy that can get you to that three second mark. You know, there's a lot of other quarterbacks that have to do things with timing.
Starting point is 00:39:24 He can do things with timing and outside of timing. Like a perfect example for me, and this is what's so impressive about Green Bay to me, Kyle, is on a couple occasions late in the season. They didn't just beat winning teams on the road. They fucking kicked their asses. They kicked Detroit's ass on Thanksgiving in a big spot, right? And what did they do in that game? They dictated the tempo of that game.
Starting point is 00:39:47 They were the front runners in the game. They made it a point to take a shot right off the bat. That's their MO right now. They made it a point to, we're going to play from ahead because we can run the ball. We have Aaron Jones. He looks good, the whole thing. They're kicking guys' asses front side, the three techniques. We knew that there was a way for them to run the football, but they did.
Starting point is 00:40:04 But they came out and jumped these guys. And what they're doing is they're defining. that moment of truth for teams early. And what happens when that happens is teams get tight. Quarterbacks get tight, decisions makers get tight. Dan got tight in that Detroit game. Jared got tight in that Detroit game. They did things that were uncharacteristic.
Starting point is 00:40:23 And whether you think this is who DAC is or he isn't, those picks are not what he was all season long. And I thought they did a great job of defining that moment of truth. Okay, for the Cowboys, it was being down 14 at the beginning of the second quarter. And you don't know when it's coming, but this is your last shot. okay they go nine plays 39 yards get sacked and then this was the drive of the game for me you can put these guys away
Starting point is 00:40:46 they back you up 10 plays 93 yards Kyle the the first third down was a third and two I think they have wicks coming across the formation shallow he trips I think he's the primary and Jordan Love you know a lot of quarterbacks are like fuck what do I do I burn it these backers are really fast oh shit I'm running out of room he just buys an extra three seconds hits a tight end first down He hit three third downs on that drive, and they were all different and spectacular.
Starting point is 00:41:11 There was one that was spectacularly bad because Dallas got their best corner on a tight end outside on a third and four. He's giving him eight yards cushion. So a little bit of his Dan Quinn in this defense, but the third and seven to Wicks, man coverage, blitz, clockwork, bro. And you talk about Dobbs. Kyle, you talk about love, you talk about the receivers. He can't do this without Aaron Jones, not just on the ground, but Blitz pick up. And cleaning people up. I've been waiting to say this for like 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:41:38 This is sick. This is sick. I give so much credit to Aaron Jones for setting the tempo because you can account for their D.Bs, their rush with scheme. You can account for how we're going to establish our identity with the run game. But one thing that's up in the air until it happens is what happens when number 11's got ahead of steam and nobody's blocking him and Aaron Jones is assigned to him. Well, Aaron Jones went.
Starting point is 00:42:04 He stood up. And he ribbed, he hit him in the ribs so hard. And you saw Mike could go down. And it was like, if it bleeds, we can kill it. I mean, Aaron Jones, not only on the ground with the football in his hand, but without the football and allowing his quarterback to throw it. That was a huge deal. Like that, on that drive, they don't hit the chunk to.
Starting point is 00:42:25 You thought. I love it. They don't hit the chunk to Dobbs. He fucked him up. They don't hit that chunk to Dobbs on that very drive, which was a huge drive, without him cleaning up for Zach Tom. That's the guy's name, Zach Tom. Zach Tom.
Starting point is 00:42:37 It seems like a user-generated name. They just maddened and creative player. You want any swag? Nah. Number 50. He's got two first names. Micah beat him. And people make a big deal about the Micah, you know, Skip Bayliss, who, he's a fucking
Starting point is 00:42:51 clown, okay? You want me to be serious. Okay? He's a fucking clown. And after the game, he's talking to him. He's a lot. He's after the game. We need Shane Gillis.
Starting point is 00:43:01 The loser. Loser. after the game he's going at micah he's saying he should get on his podcast do you know maybe the best thing about that defense is micha parsons yeah and tank lawrence yeah okay like the thing holding them together for the most part and if you're in the chat and you don't like micah that's fine i'm an eagles fan i happen to like micah i happen to like tank lawrence we just not like outspoken players you cannot no i don't know i don't know i'm projecting i'm saying we like i tend to not like outspoken players but micha doesn't i understand why people would be rubbed the wrong way by a player with a podcast.
Starting point is 00:43:35 But that's not even where I'm going. But he's the best player. He played well. Yeah. What I'm saying is, well, no, Skip's mad at him because 19 pass rushes, he doesn't get home. Okay? But that's just numbers. Look at the fucking tape.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Look at the play action. Look at the run game. And look at the fact that you barely got any. And this is the thing. When you're down in a game, people don't understand this. That's why it's hard to get sacks on the team that's getting their ass kicked in the run game and is down for most of the game. I know how that is.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Eight years of my career was that. Okay? So you want to know, I have a chip on my shoulder. It's because of shit like that. Games like that, and I was never Micah, but when they decide to take somebody away in a situation like that,
Starting point is 00:44:11 they're going to do it. Like, you're not going to get a lot of clean one-on-ones. When you do and you win, he could have fucking earhold Jordan Love, but Aaron Jones cleaned up for Zach Tom. So like when you look at something and Skip Bayless is like, hey, you didn't do anything in the pass rush. Look at the tape.
Starting point is 00:44:28 They did a good job of keeping those rushes off Jordan Love. And so Michael Parsons happened to be the guy that looks like he didn't do anything. But a lot of the game plan, I guarantee you, is predicated on taking him away. I'm going to make a callback to a really good Packers Pass Protector. Yeah. John Coon. Remember him, Chris? He would fucking clean up those.
Starting point is 00:44:50 He was a beast. He'd come across that formation. I think it must be a Packers thing, just having good pass protection from back. It's so funny. People are just talking shit to each other. Eddie Lacey crushed me. I love it. Just destroyed me in preseason.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Oh, he hit you. He chipped the fucking. But people in the chat are just arguing with each other. This is the one bad thing about having like Niners and Packers in there is like people in chat just arguing with each other about their franchises. Like eternally, they're like Highlander Beach. You guys have never won an argument with each other.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Why are you even doing it? Just enjoy the show. Like, I love you all, man. Hang out. Have a lot. I love you all. I love you all, guys. I love you all.
Starting point is 00:45:30 But here's the deal. Here's the deal. Jordan loves the truth. Aaron Jones was huge for them. And Dallas has a problem in the middle. We knew that the run game would get to him. And Dak cannot handle zone the same way that... The split safety look that went to, like, cover one with a robber on that pick six,
Starting point is 00:45:48 which is basically like that guy rotates down late and just he poaches something. Whole player. He poaches something in that area of the field. That dude picked him... I don't think Dak even checked. And, you know, like, it seemed nitpicky to me. some people thought it was nitpicky when they played the Giants this year
Starting point is 00:46:04 and he threw a bad pick and they're blowing them out and we said those are the plays you've got to just eliminate and people are like they won the game by 40 but a play like that can kill you in the playoffs and that's what happened right after they went down 21-0. It just puts the game on ice.
Starting point is 00:46:18 He looked off before the game and the live stream started like I made a joke when they showed Dak on the bench and I was like look at Dax. He looks like a person that's about to get ready to throw a pick that's about to get ready to throw a a pick and what does he do for a
Starting point is 00:46:32 trial. He threw a pick. They just looked, they looked weird. They looked out of sorts. They looked, they look weird and then what I was saying with the kickoff return. But Kyle, like for you as an offensive lineman, if you see
Starting point is 00:46:48 your star receiver drop one pass and it immediately go to the bench and is hanging his head, does that not, is that not dejecting to see as a teammate? That's not the body language you want to see early. No. You know what? That's not the body league you want to see in the playoffs at all. You know what it says?
Starting point is 00:47:04 And on the other side of things, Micah's like, why do we get all this hate? And the unfortunate thing is, Micah, you're not like the Dallas Cowboys. Come on over to the good side. The Eagles could use Russia. I know. I think that's the issue.
Starting point is 00:47:17 It's just like, why is Mike to have to be on that team? You said you go with Dan Quinn. All right, bring Dan Quinn up to Philly. Okay. Now, here's the deal, dude. Here's the deal. After a while, it becomes who you all. And I'm not talking about you, Micah.
Starting point is 00:47:32 I'm talking about the team. And so it's valiant for you to stick up for the team when people are piling on the team or the quarterback, but there's a long history here. And I think those players, although they haven't been in every one of those games, they feel that, you know, like when you're on a team and things always go wrong and one little thing goes wrong.
Starting point is 00:47:49 You're like, here we go. And again, it's like a mind fuck. So you think they're really, some of those guys are buying into all the Cowboys' Curse, Like, you think guys really... They say it outwardly or not. I asked Melanie Collins yesterday on our show. They were like, ask a football question.
Starting point is 00:48:08 And I was like, no, no, I want to ask the question I'm going to ask. And I was like, Melanie, I know that football history-rich teams struggle to match those expectations. I dealt with it in Chicago all the time. We always heard about the 85. Like charter franchises and franchises that have a long run. You know, I was like, is this the team that's going to buck that trend? because I'm just not convinced yet to the points that we've talked about surrounding DAC, and then obviously the injuries and just not being able to adjust.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Matt LaFleur figured it out. He was like, we're going to get the ball first and we're going to score. And that'll fucking poke a hole in their paper airplay. Which says everything. And that's how they, and Kyle, it's a great point because that's exactly what I was saying. They want to play from ahead. And it'll be interesting to see to me how aggressive they are up in San Francisco. Don't change anything.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Like they didn't account for that. Don't change anything. Okay. There's no way they're going to do. And I think San Francisco is a fine football team. I think they're a really good football team. I think they could win it all. But I also think they're a team that Green Bay can play with.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Whoa! I do. Yeah. I do. And hey, I might be wrong about this, but we put a social out this morning, by the way. No, you're saying it went six for six this weekend to this point. Yo, you're saying it right.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Like, if they go in there with the mentality, hey, like, we're actually, we know you guys gonna try to come punch us in the mouth, we're actually gonna try to throw a punch. I said play with. I'm not picking Green Bay to win the game. I'll tell you my pick later in the week. Exactly. I got a look at more tape. That's the thing about like picking something on a Monday. But when I tell you last night, I looked at the line at 10 points and I was like, it took everything in my power not to hammer that at one in the morning. I'm just going to take a deep breath. And if you bet a dog, you want to bet the dog later in the week. If you want a favor, get on it right now. When Chargnais back.
Starting point is 00:49:54 How do you say his name? What did you say? What kind of dog? What underdog? How do you say his name for real? Charbonnet. When's he back? Zach Charbonnet, the running back for the... He's back next year. No.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Who are you thinking about? Oh, you're thinking about... AJ Dylan? J. Dillon. It's okay. Okay, I'm wrong. That's a beautiful thing. That's a beautiful thing to hear somebody say, okay, I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:50:19 That was cool. It was cathartic. I don't get that a lot at home, so... Okay. Yeah, I'm thinking about Dylan. You know? None of us do. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:50:27 But, yeah, no, AJ Dillon would be a big, big lift. I don't know when he's coming back. I think Aaron Jones is enough, right? But to me, but Aaron Jones, we've seen him go in and out of that lineup. We saw what happened week one. LaFleur's got four games in a row of over 130.
Starting point is 00:50:46 That's a lot of load for Aaron. The floor's a good coach, man. The biggest question to me yesterday was, when you asked me at 14-0, and I was checking off Green Bay on my little bet sheet, and you were like, don't do it. And you were like, what do you think about this game?
Starting point is 00:50:57 And I said, it's over. And we're on a live stream. And I'm like, fuck, am I going to get it? But no, because you come out and you see the defense wasn't going to be a huge problem. That, to me, was everything. If the game playing that you're running matches up one, if the guys show up and play, like January Alexander showed up and play, the captain made a big play. I think they should make 14-0-0.
Starting point is 00:51:17 I think they should throw him a bone and make him a captain. Do you think- They should make him a captain? They definitely should. And he's got family in the bag. He didn't know that. Yeah. Coach must not have understood that.
Starting point is 00:51:28 All right. So I guess we're going on. The floor did run out for Jair. Yeah. You went down. First guy that was not training staff was matter of floor. So that's some inside baseball there. That's good.
Starting point is 00:51:38 How do you feel about... Flet would have ran out faster. How do you feel about late in the game, you're taking your starters out, and then seeing what's happening, getting nervous, and putting your starters back in? I think it's okay. I think it's fine.
Starting point is 00:51:53 It's all about probability when you take guys out. You just don't want to deal with the probability of somebody rolling ankle or getting hurt. I love when people are like, take the starters out. I'm like, well, who's going to play O'Line? I'm like, there's only six of us. Matt was ready to pull Jordan Love like at 24-0. There's only six of us.
Starting point is 00:52:09 I was like, I needed to be a little, I've seen crazy shit happen. And like, you know, part of this is you got to keep the pressure on. That's what they do so well when they're up. Let's continue to talk about the NFC. Like, because this game here, Detroit and L.A., first off. I don't want to talk about it. Really? Detroit, what?
Starting point is 00:52:25 I mean, obviously don't hate the Packers as much as I hate the Lions because I've been glazed in our guy all morning, but I just can't stand the Detroit thing. And the fourth quarter antics with the old knee missile really, it really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. You didn't like that hit. And let's start with the hit. Because that was, first off, brutal, brutal game, physical game.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Great game. If you're a football fan, Kyle, I don't remember the last wildcar game I enjoy. watching as much of that game. Those two quarterbacks, the coaches, the drama. It felt like the Rams were on a razor, thin edge, the whole game trying to stay in it, but Matt kept making throws. It was vintage. Kyle, it wasn't. Magnum Opus Matt Stafford. And Jared stepped up, man. And like, so all the storylines great. That got knocked out. Matt's hand was gushing blood on the first. His hands gushing blood. The guy's like Buddy Lee. Do you know Buddy Lee? Yeah, the Gene. He's basically Buddy Lee, that little man that you can't kill him.
Starting point is 00:53:24 because he was knocked out on the field and I know some people are going to say, hey, that's just unsafe and the whole thing. And I agree, that's unsafe. Yeah, you don't care about player safety. Come on. You're broadcasting the eyes rolling back
Starting point is 00:53:34 and you're not going to have the UNC call in and be like, hey, I'm here at the game. I'm in the suite where you're hoping to sit. But I'm also watching the game on my phone. And I noticed that Matt Stafford, quarterback for the rim, his eyes are rolling back in his head and his fingers are throwing up crips on.
Starting point is 00:53:49 So let's get him out of the football game. Not in Detroit anymore. Because I'm the unaffiliated, neuro-consultant. And that's my job. You nailed that acronym. That should be the test. What am I?
Starting point is 00:54:01 And if you can't say it, and it says a lot about our league that that's not our opening story. Well, I know. It says a lot about our league. We're worried about the knee, not the head. The fact that the league, don't tell me the league didn't know. The league could have called down and been like,
Starting point is 00:54:13 yo, we just saw him fencing, guys. Like, let's get him off field. Fencing. But he also did the thing. He did the thing that if you hear Danny Amadola and Julian Edelman talk about this. Aiden brought this up, which is a really good point. when they had like a deal when and right or wrong you at home might think it's barbaric and the whole thing but did you turn the game off okay
Starting point is 00:54:30 didn't think so um because i would have tried to play too if i was mad stafford you can tell me that's why you got hundred percent that's why you got take the guy off the field i remember i got concussion in san francisco once and i was pretty sure i got concussion and they asked me where we were and i nailed it so good i was like we're in uh we're in uh fuck i can't remember now uh san jose or whatever we're it's a trick question because we're not in San Francisco. We're actually, they moved the team. We're not at the old stadium. But the whole point is, like, Danny and Jules,
Starting point is 00:55:01 they used to have a system where if guy was dinged, they'd walk over and, like, you'd hold your arm or your knee. And that's what Matt did. He, like, came off the field holding his arm. Yep. You know, like, and I'm sure everything hurt. He's such a gangster, dude. Bro, and I think there's very few quarterbacks,
Starting point is 00:55:16 and for Detroit fans, we're going to get there, and we're going to glaze you up to it. What you just said, hold on. I want to pause on what you just said. because like that's some shit I've never heard yeah I tweeted it right away if you if you watch his eyes roll back when he jumps up and he comes to and he's like oh shit like I I blacked out he immediately acts like it's his collarbone or his arm are you concussed though if you're capable of executing that plan okay so so here's the other one the other injury which was brutal my arm's not
Starting point is 00:55:44 hurt I that was I don't get queasy watching guys a lot like get hurt but the fact that he'd be hurt like everything i remember there was this guy for the texans that to that blew two ACLs the same play how do you do that i don't know he's an offensive tackle yeah yeah yeah yeah and that just makes me like but watching hippie walk off i don't think he realized his knees in whatever shape it is because the the top of the body hurt so fucking much the adrenaline and the pain up top yeah from hitting the turf and watching him they cut away i think he was about throw up he was keeled over about throw up i do now i can't confirm that that's just me i'm good but but But that's the hit you want.
Starting point is 00:56:22 All you guys that railed against the guy in Pittsburgh when he got thrown out because Pittman is laid out. The playoffs are on the line. It's an explosive play. You're playing for your life. And the guy comes to take the ball off and the body is where the ball is. Okay. And so everybody gets on their player safety train.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Well, that's what you're going to get. And I don't want to hear a word. That's what you're going to get. I'm going to give you a word. What's the fucking ball? Okay. But he's going to get what the guy from Pittsburgh got. No, but these are different plays.
Starting point is 00:56:52 No, they're not. In my opinion, they're different plays. If you hit him up top, top and dislodge the ball full speed. Based on where the runner, where their collision point is, where they're coming from, it's not the same play. Kyle, he probably would have got flagged if he went up top. There's a bobble happening. There's a bubble happening.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Go play the ball. No money for a playoff game. I hate it too, Kyle. You can hit him in the chest. You can hit him in the hip. You can hit me in the head. Don't make me sit in that. training room all off season. I agree with you, Kyle, but that's the...
Starting point is 00:57:23 Don't make my wife have to shower me. But that's the position that they put guys in. And then don't fucking flex at my teammates. That thing is bullshit. Just take the barking from the teammates. Didn't sit with me well. I empathize with defenders not being able to play the game that they won't play. You're not the person, though, that's bitching and complaining for two weeks about the Pittsburgh
Starting point is 00:57:42 guy. Are you? No. Okay, so you don't apply. But there are different plays in my opinion. But you don't apply then to that. So don't take something that's not direct. directed at you and apply it to you. I understand.
Starting point is 00:57:52 But the angle of that runner, the angle of the defender, the situation of the Bob. I agree. There's other places you could hit him. I agree. There's about four or five I can count. Some of which are bigger target areas and can slow a motherfucker down quicker than hit him.
Starting point is 00:58:06 I also think, Kyle, that in that player's head and a lot of people's heads, we've seen a lot of low hits that people have issues with. They know exactly what's going to happen if they go high. I'll pay your fine if you choose. in the name. Okay, let's get on with the game. Let's get on with... At least we both got our opinions, though.
Starting point is 00:58:27 No, I mean, my opinion is just that at least the league is partially responsible for hits like that. Yes. Because... But it's a personal decision. Yeah, it's a personal decision. And he did it to T.J. Hawkinson. He did it to T.J. too. So that's what we call a trend.
Starting point is 00:58:43 It is a trend. It is a trend. And I keep my eyes on Tress. It is a trend. Maybe we should flip the script and don't penalize anything in the middle. section even if you lead with your head because that's the hardest that's what i'm saying hit me in the hips yeah but we wear hip pads for christ the problem is to when you run full speed at somebody and you lower your target to get to Kyle i'm not that athletic right we've had this argument today you
Starting point is 00:59:06 i'm not that athletic if i'm running full speed i have to really go like this to like hit somebody forcefully yeah i used to come down like this i used to come down and turn my head and go like this okay and if i hit somebody in the wrong place i get flagged if i was a safe be. And so like I just look at that and I say a big spot in the game, it's tough. And then there was anzzolone had right after that, which was maybe high, but I wouldn't have called that, right? Like I think that's clean football. Okay. But the bottom line is a great game and playoff wins are huge for people. They're huge for for Dan. They're huge for Jared. You got a chance to play every playoff game inside now. Like there's a chance. If Green Bay, you're the biggest Green Bay fans in the
Starting point is 00:59:48 world. You could be playing every game at home for everything they've been through. They can play every game at home. They could play every game under a roof effectively the rest of the playoffs. And we knew, listen, this isn't taking a shot at Jared or the Lions, but they weren't going to be as good outside in the elements. The numbers backed that up. Okay, so this isn't hate. I'm super happy. Brad Holmes is a guy that I used to work with. Brad Holmes is an awesome dude. He's been on this show, watching him in that elevator after the game screaming. Like, he was just, he just could, He just couldn't contain himself. And you know why?
Starting point is 01:00:20 He got one of the game balls from Campbell, too. And he deserves one of the game balls. You know why? Because the top pick made the Pro Bowl. Okay, not that that's necessarily, but he had the biggest holding call in Detroit Lions history, right? He drew that holding call, which changed the game completely for them last end of the game. Tackles an all pro.
Starting point is 01:00:40 You got a coach who's got the balls to throw on second and eight, really. And you got a wide receiver. You trust to catch the ball. And ultimately, you have a quarterback that as imperfect as, he might be at times. He is good enough for Detroit. And I think that's fucking awesome that they stuck the landing on it.
Starting point is 01:00:55 And for Lions fans, I asked him after the game, what time do the bars close? And a lot of them said Tuesday. And that just tells you where they're at. But here's the deal with the Lions. They came out and handled the assignment perfectly. But the assignment did not include dealing with a lot of pressure.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Okay. And that's the difference between the Rams and some other teams. I thought Aaron Donnell would give them maybe more problems. Same. But they did a good job. They got enough bodies. They're a good unit. that, you know, somebody else would have had to win.
Starting point is 01:01:20 The single blocks elsewhere were good enough to allow to a, to, what is it, account for. That's exactly right. It's exactly right. And I tip my hat to those guys. And Kyle, 15 pressures for the Rams. That's not enough. As soon as you could tell they weren't going to get there. I was eating crow in like the second quarter when I was watching these guys just stand up to bull rushes on an island.
Starting point is 01:01:39 I was like, fuck. Because all week I was like, hey, look, you can account for 99, but who's going to account for a Kobe Turner? Yeah, well, and those guys aren't proven to the degree that AD is. And so like, you know, 15 pressure is not enough. Golf, the ball didn't hit the fucking ground until the second quarter. He went 22 for 22 when he wasn't pressure for 277. He'll do that. I think, I think he's a good quarterback.
Starting point is 01:02:01 But under pressure, he's not as good. And if you can't put the pressure on him, you're not going to have a chance. The most attempts without an incompletion since 2009, since he started tracking that stat of not being under pressure, the ball didn't hit the ground until the second. The run game kept L.A. in a five-man front, if you'll know. notice and you know the fact they were chipping off five seven yards on a pop on the ground explosive run it was three it was it's three in the middle it's two overhangs and those overhangs end up in some tough coverage spots because you you align your defense like that so you know the there was
Starting point is 01:02:33 no panic on the other sideline though no panic we saw the Detroit was scoring at will it was like holy fuck not only are the guys showing up with the right energy the fans were remarkable and it was able to see for Detroit but the scheme uh Ben I mean, Ben Johnson's scheme is awesome, coupled with guys making plays. Laporta was obviously sleeping in a cryo chamber for the last week. Tough guy, man. You know, you don't think about just... I didn't like the match up with hooked.
Starting point is 01:03:01 I didn't like that either. If you can keep those guys in base, and we said this all year, like those linebackers are not great coverage guys. And so the run game dictated that in some situations. But here's what I thought. The Rams had a golden opportunity down 2117. And like I said, they were on a razor's edge. like the whole game they had to go on fourth down in the first half like fourth and medium they got it but 2117 they're gonna get the ball out of the half so Kyle you know Detroit has the ball with like a couple minutes to go
Starting point is 01:03:29 Jared golf does the thing he there's pressure on him he throws the ball like backwards and you're like okay first off you didn't capitalize on golf doing the thing and then it's third and 15 at like the 35 and you give up a back-breaking conversion and the difference between punning at the 35 and you and the and the and the the opposite 45, which what Detroit eventually did with the minute left, is LA can't get a real possession in there. There was a chance if they got that stop that the next time they give the Rams back the ball will be 3121, the way they were playing. And so they come out of the half, they don't get points in Detroit, 2117. They got a third and long. They checked down to Leporta who gutted it out, as you said,
Starting point is 01:04:09 and he gutted out five extra yards to make that kick like something you're confident in doing. So they go up 2417, and that to me... With that groncle leg on. He did. But 2417, that to me defines the second half. It defines the play in the second half. And if you want to win that game, you had to jump out on top in that two for one. Now, McVeigh had a shot late, and I still think they could have won that game.
Starting point is 01:04:32 But here's my question for people at home. And for you, and Nate, if you're Sean McVeigh and you're deciding to run the plague clock down and take your time, it's not like they were in a hurry on that drive. I kind of agree. You're down one. You don't want to give them the ball back. up two if you end up kicking a field goal. So you want to make this the last possession if you can in a perfect world.
Starting point is 01:04:52 But if you're willing to punt, why do that? You know what I'm saying? If you're willing to punt and it ends up being in Hutchison's hold is huge. But on third and long, and I know they were aggressive on third and long, why not take a checkdown, pick up seven, eight yards, make a decision on a kicker a go. That, to me, was the biggest mistake of the game was on third and long, being too aggressive there, knowing that if you didn't get it, you were going to punt. And if you're willing to punt, then why are you?
Starting point is 01:05:16 you taking your sweet time because they never got the ball back. Yeah, I don't know. I think it's, I think for coaches in a moment, it's just you got to pull the trigger on something. It's like, damn if you do, damned if you don't, like if they go for it or if they, if he choose to do something else and the outcome ends up being the same, then like, yeah, no question, but give yourself a chance to make that decision is all I'm saying. Like, you know, I understand they're aggressive, that's who they are.
Starting point is 01:05:44 And they got PI on that. and it wasn't called. And fans all over the league, whether you're Miami fan or you're an L.A. fan, you're going to call as it didn't get made. But in all these games, I can find calls on the other side. Like, Detroit might go in and score and go up 28-17 before the half if they don't blow that off-sides call. So there's a tack in your column, there's attacking the other team's column.
Starting point is 01:06:05 I just don't want to hear about the refs. I thought it was an amazing game, two amazing quarterbacks. And Jared Goff was just stone-cold. Jared Goff deserves a lot of love and respect. Can we mention Puka Nakua? He deserves a lot of people. He's incredible. He's a super star. He's incredible.
Starting point is 01:06:20 We're so spoiled with great football yesterday that we haven't said the words Puka or Nakuwa. That's crazy. And he was just. The guy's so big. Unreal. He's so big. He's like if you put Danny Mandala in a bigger body. His face is like a Disney character face.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Just like perfect jaw. He was just the bottom of a pile of five kids, his entire life apparently. He was used to being tackled. And he was like, I just do best. with people on my back. Yeah. That's really how I roll. And Puka, Kyle, has a face for a Hall of Fame bus.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Yes. He really does. I can see the bus right now. He's such a unique face that you're just like, he just looks like, you know, like he looks like an all-time great to me. Yep. Now I can see like in 15 years where like Pooka Nakuwa, 45-year-old or 38-year-old Pooka-Nakua, he might be a Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 01:07:06 You know, some guys. Got a good face. You know, some guys play a style of football that's tough to sustain. Yeah. I think he's got a little bit of that. That's tough. Yeah, it is tough. It is tough.
Starting point is 01:07:17 He's going to be beat up. I think as he gets older in the league, he'll invent new ways to play too, and that'll extend it. But it's tough when you're getting hit every play like that. And I want to say this last thing about Matt Stafford before he move on, man. Like I do feel like everybody, when he was in Detroit, it was like, yeah, the numbers are cool, but, you know, like, come on, win something. And then he goes to L.A., and he wins the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:07:40 And then, you know, there's people like me over the last two years that have been like, When's the bottom going to fall out? I just don't know. Like, I thought they should have hit the reset button. I guess I was wrong about that. But ultimately, he come up short. He's not the reason. Matt Stafford, when you talk to quarterbacks,
Starting point is 01:07:54 guys got a jugs machine on his shoulder. Those guys last a long time. And I didn't take that into an account. The balls he threw last night put them in a time capsule. It's incredible what he did last night. And I know we're talking about Jared, and he's awesome. But Matt Stafford deserves a lot of respect. And I feel like he's one of the few quarterbacks.
Starting point is 01:08:11 How many quarterbacks do you respect? more as their career goes on. I respect Matt Stafford more after that game than I have his entire career. And that's just who he is. When you watch Detroit games, miced up on inside the NFL, there's a play where he gets dumped and he's like, uh, shoulder. It's just like, and then he's back on the field. Like the guy, you can't kill him. He deserves a lot of respect. That's one of vintage miced-ups. Yeah. You want to go list of quarterbacks that I respect more than Matt Stafford? I don't know if the list is long. Okay, I'll see it. Okay. Let's go to the AFC.
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Starting point is 01:09:50 Yeah. I brought a suit up to New York for my show. Yeah. Didn't fit? I put the pants on. Oh, boy. Great. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:58 That's usually the key indicator. Uh-huh. Ants fit. Uh-huh. And I put my jacket on, and I did the shoulder thing, and I went to put it on, I heard a rip.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Fuck. So I took it off, and I mean, it wasn't a little rip, It was like the entire seam down the back of my jacket, beautiful green jacket split. So I had to put on some wrinkly stuff from that. Kyle, you've had a tough time traveling over the last two weeks. The introduction and the suit thing. The dressing.
Starting point is 01:10:25 I forgot my suit last week and inside the NFL. I had to wear Sal Palantoneo's suit, basically. Yeah, dude, it was sick. It was sick. I was out there like I was dominating Jay Cutler with somebody else's suit. That's amazing. He was shook, dude. You can just wear other people's suits?
Starting point is 01:10:40 Yeah, there's like a lot of suits. just sitting there. I can't do that. So anyway, yeah, I know that's you're because you're one-on-one dog. You know, there's other people built like your boy. There's only one Kyle long. Yeah. All right. So, all right, here we go. Let's talk about the AFC. Let's start with Cleveland, Houston. Listen, this played out how we thought it might, just not to the degree of the blowout. Like I, we said a couple things coming in this game. Go back to the previews. This is what we said. Cleveland, can't turn the ball over. When you talk about, Cleveland how many teams in the past 10 years have been in the Super Bowl with a with a
Starting point is 01:11:15 minus turnover differential it's not a lot of them the turnovers are the thing that eventually sunk them don't be afraid of Cleveland's run game if you're Houston they are not who they seem to be if you just are a casual fan or you don't watch tape as the course of the season's going on they've had injuries they have not been able to lean on that run game the same and it's not Nick Chubb back there right so don't be afraid of the run game they were not and they took care of business 56 yards for Cleveland on the ground. And take the pressure off of C.J. Stroud.
Starting point is 01:11:45 They get the ball out quick, like 2-4, 10 pressures, no sacks. Come on, dude. I mean, that's great. A lot of that's Sloick, a lot of that C.J. Stroud, the offensive line deserves props. Laramie Tunsel got hurt on an extra point. That was a freak play. Totally freak play. And I thought it was on the touchdown.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Yeah. Because they showed tonsil hurt, and it was immediately after a touchdown, but you know how it goes. Sometimes they don't even show the extra points. Extra points are more. unsafe than outdoor football. I hate extra points. So here's the deal. Tunsell's out for a little bit and you're like man they really need to figure something out because at this point this game's still back and forth. The Laramie Tunsel without a helmet on, pathetic. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a 90s. It's like an any given Sunday character. Yes. Yes. Gold hoopie. Yes. He's a central cast. No beard.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Central casting any given Sunday, especially with the gas mask on. But here's the deal. When When he was down, you were worried about being able to protect CJ Stroud in the event that this continues to be a shootout. And what they did is they moved the pocket. They did creative things to get CJ Stroud on the move, and they weathered that storm, and they kicked their asses, man. And I think, you know, Sloick deserves a lot of credit. He's going to be a head coach at some point.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Is he a little guy? I don't know. He looks kind of little. I mean, I don't know if they have, like, a really faraway camera in Houston, but I feel like every time they... A faraway camera. Yeah. He just doesn't look.
Starting point is 01:13:13 He's not a huge guy. Neither's Lafleur, but he plays with a match instead of nuts. Listed at 510-170. 5-10-1-70. On the Michigan. Yeah, he's pretty average. He's diabolically average. Diabolically, but not average when it comes to pre-snap motion.
Starting point is 01:13:26 That was huge. It forced Cleveland to have really bad eye discipline. And C.J. Stroud, I can squarely put him in this category. And, you know, you can say I'm jumping out of the gym. Hall of Fame? No, but we've been talking about this all. And I do think eventually, sure. but you talk about quarterbacks and the conversation
Starting point is 01:13:45 Cam Newton has and I put quarterbacks in two categories. There's there's this category and that category. You can call that category something else, but I think you put it well. There's six guys in the NFL that I put in that category right now. I put Mahomes, Lamar, Burrow, Allen, Stafford, and C.J. Stroud in a category and they are separate from the rest of the quarterback.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Jordan Love. All your, and Jordan, love at the beginning of next year, however this ends, people are going to be talking about, is he one of those guys? And we'll find out. The sample size is too small. CJ Stroud, though, it's his first year, dude, with a rookie head coach, a defensive head coach, they lost Hank Dell. They weren't a talented team to start the year, objectively. And they just beat Cleveland at home, a team that a lot of people thought matched up really well with them. And I think they got a shot this weekend. I'll just say that. I'm not going to count
Starting point is 01:14:38 them out. And they've got a bunch of guys, they've acquired a bunch of guys, throughout the, you know, whatever it was, this past off season, this season. They got Adrian Amos out there. There's a guy named DeAndre Houston Carson, who's in their secondary. And I was in Chicago with DHC. You were there as well. He didn't say a word. He was the hardest worker on the team.
Starting point is 01:14:56 He won all the conditioning drills. He was a core four guy. Yeah. Not a starter on defense. But now you see him out there, and he's a core part of their defense. That's a guy that pays attention to meetings. Yeah. That's a D'emico Ryan's type guy.
Starting point is 01:15:08 D'emico Ryan's guy. So, I mean, you're seeing the creaking. rise to the top as it pertains to whether it's a lack of it's not a lack of talent but it's an influx of whatever the word thing about the oxy intelligence football IQ think about guys like like Christian Harris who's a newer piece he's played really well on the stretch I think Denzel Perryman has played well for them this year a veteran addition the secondary is quietly although they gave up a bunch of deep balls and play action's been tough for them I think they've got some players
Starting point is 01:15:41 out there that you can build, you know, with. How about Derek Barnett? Derek Barnett. Think about my guy, Derek Barnett Gumby. I Face-timed him yesterday. I was so happy. Derek Barnett got run out of Philly. And I've always been a Derek Barnett fan.
Starting point is 01:15:54 And I think for a first round pick, you know, it's hard. Like Kyle's been there, I've been there. The standard is gonna be higher for you. You're gonna get more opportunities, but the standard is way higher. And Barnett was a big part of our run in 17. And I thought he was a really good football player.
Starting point is 01:16:09 And more importantly, one of my favorite dudes. Like he's a great person and he busts his ass and he plays hard. The thing that he would do was he would get some penalties. He would be, you know, an off-sides or stupid personal foul, but I'd rather say woe than sick him. And Derek Barnett is always somebody that you haven't had to tell sick him because he is aggressive. He'll play the run. He's a good pass rusher. And getting this fresh start for him is awesome. And he's part of a great group and he stepped up in in the postseason. This to me was like if you know what he's been through, and Philly fans should love the guy too because he's a part of Super Bowl history for Philly. He made
Starting point is 01:16:49 huge plays for them yesterday. That was awesome. I FaceTime him in the car yesterday. Got to see his big smile and mug, dude. I love that kid and so happy for him. But here's the deal. When it comes to Cleveland's defense, the question that everybody's finally getting wise to is why were they so much worse on the road? We talked about it all year and people, JJ asked the question after the game. I think the answer is tough to pin down, but I had a theory, and it sounded like kind of a crazy theory
Starting point is 01:17:17 that I was going to work off of. Number one, we know the rush is really good, right? You're always going to get a bump from a great rush at home. But Cleveland, you've played there, Kyle. That grass is slow. It's like Chicago. So if you're manning somebody up,
Starting point is 01:17:29 I think it's probably a little bit easier to play man on that surface. Now, that's my galaxy brain theory. There's a lot of credence to that. Okay. I can tell you, from a coverage standpoint. I mean,
Starting point is 01:17:40 offensive linemen are coverage elements within the offense on defensive line. It's easier on thick grass. It's funny because at O-Line-D-Line, we are the D-Bs and you are the receivers. Yes.
Starting point is 01:17:51 And you're running routes. And I'm trying to stick with you. It's a lot harder for me to stick with you in Houston. And of course, Kyle. And they've only played like... I want you to be in the farm field with me. They played five games on turf this year. The results were all in the 20s and 30s,
Starting point is 01:18:07 except for the Tennessee game where they played Tanna'Hill, the Hill and the 3 at that stadium, which is inexplicably turf. But, you know, like, I looked at average separation. I got friends with NextGen stats access, okay? Separation, 3.4 yards at home. That's 15th in the league, away 3.7 yards, which is a big difference.
Starting point is 01:18:29 That's 28th in the league, so the coverage isn't is good on the road. And then the Cleveland open target rate is 53% on the road. That's third highest in the league. which jumps from the low 40s at home. So there's a big difference in how much separation. That's a lot, okay? Now the question is, and this is the next step,
Starting point is 01:18:46 you want to peel the onion a little further, the average time to pressure, follow me here because Russian coverage go hand in hand. What's the chicken? What's the egg in this situation? The average time to pressure, 17th on the road, home is first. Okay, so that's a big difference, right? And, you know, like I look at Jim Schwartz's defense,
Starting point is 01:19:04 and I played for Jim Schwartz. When we played good quarterbacks, sometimes we struggled on the back end. But on top of that, I also think his defense is predicated on. It's mostly about the guys up front. You know, they talked about him doing a good job against Shanahan, you know, which is a little bit unexpected. His groups have done well against Shanahan. You also have to look at some of the quarterbacks we played in those situations when I was a part of the team,
Starting point is 01:19:26 but also some of the quarterbacks he played when Shanahan was an O.C. or a head coach somewhere else. But more than anything, the reason they give those guys fits, Kyle, is because of penetration. There's two types of defensive linemen. There's readers and there's penetrators. And that's one of the first things that young offensive linemen struggle with that O-line coaches preach.
Starting point is 01:19:45 It's like, hey, you're doing this technique wrong. It's not about you. Who are you playing against? They're like, what does 96 like to do? Well, 96 is a jitter. You know, that changes the offense. And you say against Shanahan's offense, a lot of that stuff is zone-based.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Side line to sideline. Side line to sideline. penetration kills a knife through that then you're in trouble as an offense and and I think there's that and then I also think like if you look at 2017 when we had Schwartsey points per game in Philly we gave up 12 points a game at home we gave up 24 on the road so actually our defense was better but but you know and we didn't have Miles Garrett but here's the deal I think his scheme is if you have a dominant rush group which they are at home but they're not on the road coverage gets made to look a lot better on the because they play so much man you get tips and overthrows yeah I looked at everything I looked at turnovers I thought maybe that the offense was turning the ball over more on the road and it was leading to more short fields not so it's just if I look at this I say hey listen the straw that's your right the drink is the front
Starting point is 01:20:51 you're right and if the front's not getting home as much on the road because they don't have a hard they don't have a silent count and you know it's just the way it is then those guys in the back end are going to expose a little bit so yeah on turf they gave up 45, 22, 35, and 24, and then three to the Titans. So I don't know, maybe it's the grass. It always could be the grass, Kyle. That's what I always say. The truthers, they want this thing on speed turf and indoors. Yeah, maybe they're the indoor team, ironically. They want to build a dome in Cleveland and keep Jim Schwartz around. But another thing is a lot of these defensive coaches, and I think Rahe Morris did a great job all year with that group. I think he deserves
Starting point is 01:21:29 a lot of credit. I think what he did is more impressive than what Dan Quinn did. Those are two guys that are interviewing for jobs, right? And I think that thing shows up too. Dan Quinn moved down the Rolodex after. I don't know, though, because this always happens. Guys that are interviewing, their team doesn't play as well. And then you look at Jim Schwartz, who wants an interview. It's going to be hard to get one with the way that group played. And so, you know, unless you have a ready-made dominant defensive line in your town and you're looking for a D.C., I wouldn't. Miami and in KC.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Kyle? What about it? Where do we want to start? Ask me something. What did I have written down first for this one? Just ask me something. I'll tell you, because this is a game. Can we talk about Kansas City first, and then we can talk about the 19 and under? Sure. Here's the deal.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Here's the deal. Because it's true. They had an advantage in multiple areas. They had an advantage in the cold. Okay, those guys, I know this cliche, but you could tell when you watch the game, Like the very first third down, 27 for the Chiefs, is going bowling in the alley, dude. He's just head down.
Starting point is 01:22:35 I'm gonna fucking take some bodies out with me. And guys were Pacheco on the ground, the guys on the front, like they had an advantage in the elements, even though they were dropping the ball. And I will say this, I thought, if you were gonna tell me coming out of this game that they were gonna have like four drops and it was gonna come from one guy, who do you think I would have said I'd rather it be?
Starting point is 01:22:54 Which is on the end? Travis Kelsey. Yeah. Okay, because he's not gonna do that again. He's not gonna do it twice. Okay? So that's good. You know, I also thought, if you want to encapsulate this game in one human being,
Starting point is 01:23:05 it's Legerius Sneed, who might be one of my favorite players in the league. He might be top three for me. Yes. Okay, now I'm not saying he's top three players. I've been in this drum for some time. We love Ligeria Sneed, bro. From the day I met him in Kansas City, well, I never met him. He doesn't talk.
Starting point is 01:23:18 He doesn't talk. He just plays football. That's all he does. He just plays football. But you know what he did? On one of those third downs that, and we'll talk about the penalties, it got removed from third and eight to third and 13 after a cheetah, false start. He jammed this motherfucker so good.
Starting point is 01:23:31 And I posted it online and it kind of went off a little bit because I don't know that everybody saw it, but he jammed them into the ground. Okay, like the physicality that they play with, there was a ball in the third quarter, I think, that took forever to get out to Waddle. And, you know, Sneed comes top down on this thing. He slings Waddle out of bounds. Waddle didn't catch the ball. This is my favorite moment of the game, Kyle. He slings Waddle out of bounds. Waddle didn't do anything.
Starting point is 01:23:56 Sneed stands there, turns towards the sideline. on the opposing sideline. They're all huddled up in their coats, and he stands there until the refs are ready to move him off of their sideline. They're like, let's go. And then he leaves with no, he's mugging these guys. Nobody says a fucking word. The coolest shit.
Starting point is 01:24:13 That to me, I have chills right now. That is alpha energy. And those are the guys. If I had DB like that on my team, bro, he's my best friend. And then they got a center by the name of Creed Humphrey. Taking people to salt mines. Who was fucking snubbed on the all pro team, by the way. they should add a third slot just because of this situation, you know.
Starting point is 01:24:32 But he was out there with no sleeves, just taking these fuckers to the salt mine. Surprise he didn't die, Kyle, because that's what happens to people when they wear no sleeves. He's built different. He's from Oklahoma. Pacheco was out there. Pacheco's from Jersey or wherever he's from. They don't care. But I will say this, the run game was great, and they started off in heavy doses of big explosive runs.
Starting point is 01:24:53 But it was the pocket that Patrick was sitting in. That's it. impressed. It was that the middle three. And you know what? I always referenced the New Orleans offense with Drew Brees back in the day, the vintage. It was Jari Evans and Carl Nix protecting the interior. And it was Trey Smith and it was Joe Tunney and it was Crete Humphrey protecting the integrity of the center of the pocket. Patrick was stepping up. He felt comfortable back there. And yeah, there were some drops on the back end, but there were some big plays too. Rishie Rice. What do you go for, 180, 160? He went for enough to hit the props, Kyle. Just throw him the ball.
Starting point is 01:25:27 I had a two touchdown Rishi Rice prop that Travis won't do that again. And it was the tackle. Travis won't do that again. He won't do that again. You sure? But it's the defense. I'm positive. The defense, right? I know he won't do it. If the defense or was it the lack of the Miami Dolph? Here's what it was. And I don't want to jump out of the gym. You know I've been Mr. Pound on the table for Kansas City. I was so I was puckered up for them to lose and me
Starting point is 01:25:46 going on the set of inside the NFL because I kind of got hot at my teammates there. They all jumped me on on Kansas City after one of these losses. And they were like, oh, they suck. And I was like, who's going to Kansas City and beating them in the playoffs? Well, the nice thing is, nobody, because now they've got to go on the road. But I think the two biggest advantages they had were the coaching advantage, okay? And I think McDaniel is a really good coach. I don't agree with everything he did down the stretch this year. And what he does at quarterback and where he weighs in on that is going to have to, you know,
Starting point is 01:26:15 that's going to be important too. But third down penalties for these guys. You talk about going in the elements, third and manageable, where Tua can throw a quick, easy throw. Let the players make plays on third and five in that sort of. thing. There were numerous third downs from the first drive, third and eight, false start. Okay, third and one, a legal formation after two a skips a ball on second down. Third and nine, uh, false start, Tyreek. Third and four with 1015 left in the game, you go delay of game. Okay. That's unacceptable. Okay. So you can talk about the advantage in the cold, the whole thing. They weren't disciplined enough. And maybe that's because they
Starting point is 01:26:49 were thinking about the damn weather. I don't know what it was, but these, these issues had popped up with Miami all year long. And that just tells me they weren't ready to go. And Kansas City was. But, Kyle, to your point, I think the most important thing in this game and something that we should be wary of when they go to the next round and the next round, if they get there, is Mahomes, we talk about the receivers and how bad the receivers have been this year.
Starting point is 01:27:13 We have not talked about enough the tackles. And I told you guys this, coming in the season, I did not like the additions to tackle. Okay? and the tackles have not played well. And Miami having three guys down on the edge, which is a reality. Okay, Miami, you could probably feel like there's a lot of excuses that you can take, but what's the excuse in the other eight to ten games you've played against good teams over the last two years? Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:36 But without good rushers on the edge, Mahomes had enough time to bake a cake when he wanted to. And I think him not having pressure on him, it allowed him to work through things, especially in the elements with his receivers. And maybe if you got the tackles right this year, we wouldn't be talking about the receivers. And so I just think that's a little bit of a perfect storm thing. The last advantage is the biggest one, the quarterback. Okay?
Starting point is 01:28:03 Tua is not him, okay? I'm not going to spend a lot of time on it, but he's not him. He's a guy that I think is a good dude. I root for him. He's overcome a lot. He's a solid quarterback in the NFL. But you want to talk about, we were talking today. I said three weeks ago that maybe he's not the answer.
Starting point is 01:28:20 And I, like, whispered it because I'm like, you know, when you say things and they haven't come to fruition yet, you're, like, worried that people are going to be upset. And people are upset when you say things like that. It's like my Justin Jefferson trade idea. Yeah. So ask yourself this question. That's funny. That's really funny. Ask yourself this question, Kyle.
Starting point is 01:28:37 It's not funny. I think it's instructive here. If you're talking about moving on, and I'm not saying you need to move on, I haven't done enough research on Miami's CAP situation, the capital they have, like, the players that would be available. how short is the list of teams that would would trade for Tua? Anybody got one? No. Okay. It's a short list.
Starting point is 01:28:59 How long is the list of players that you think you would be able to win with down there in this offense? There's a few that are out there that I'd be like, that's an upgrade, okay? Kirk Cousins, Jack Prescott, Kyler Murray. Justin Fields? Justin Fields. You can throw the deep ball? I'm not even talking about the deep ball. That's a tired old thing that's tired.
Starting point is 01:29:17 It's wired. It's true. But it's true. and I was killed for saying it, but he does not throw the deep ball well. Okay, but I'm not going to put that deep ball on him. There's ugly weather out there. It was tough to throw the ball.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Buddy, he does that in. Okay, I'm just trying to be fair, Kyle. I know, buddy. But here's the deal. When he throws that pick, and this is Steve, this is Spags, man. We talked about the disguises being the key of this game. Kyle, they're in quarters pre-snap, then they're in three,
Starting point is 01:29:45 and then they rotate late to two-man, and encapsulated, the whole thing is like the coaching advantage and the quarterback advantage because Tua just throws it off his back foot just fuck it waddles down there somewhere and there's not there's pressure but there's not pressure with a capital P now the other guy the other guy that we were comparing that some people were saying Tua belongs in that category or anybody I named not on that list earlier if you're putting them in the conversation with my homes you're smoking crack yeah or bas-saltz if you're in Florida.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Okay? But like, Patrick Mahomes, I saw a clip of Bill Belichick last week, and he was talking about before a game where it was very cold and windy. He was on the sideline. He's like, I say we throw the ball. He said, people aren't expecting it.
Starting point is 01:30:32 That's not the game plan people think you're going to roll out with, but if you got a guy who can throw it, you throw the ball. Okay? The first three plays the game, you have the confidence in your quarterback to throw the ball three times.
Starting point is 01:30:41 Okay? The first two, Kelsey drops one, he sails one. They zoom in on my homes. his face says to me, holy shit, it is hard to throw the ball out here. But here we go, I'm going. I do it anyways. And as Kyle, as you put before, his ball cuts through the wind.
Starting point is 01:30:56 Okay, I saw him make throws Sunday or Saturday that I got chills thinking about it, not because I'm thinking it's cold out there because I'm thinking that guy is so fucking good, dude, that he's out there in that wind and that cold delivering the strikes that he delivered. There's a big difference in who's on one sideline under center and who's on the other sideline. So I just think it comes down to coaching quarterback elements, and you knew what was going to happen. Man, those fans are awesome. And I give a tremendous amount of credit to the Hunt family
Starting point is 01:31:28 for directing fans to, they tailored the rules to loosen them up a bit for what fans were allowed to bring into the stadium. You were allowed blankets without zippers. You could have batteries to use heaters. That's right. Bring this and that. And the third.
Starting point is 01:31:43 You can bring cardboard. They know that that's part of the advantage. Yep. And it showed obviously the better team won, the better quarterback won, but I got to give a shout out to a well-run organization. I want to shout out my dog, Shane O'Brien, from Missing Curfew, which is, of course, a great hockey podcast, one of my favorite podcasts. My boys from the bus on Bonaroo, you know, those guys are a good time.
Starting point is 01:32:07 And Shane, I did not know was going to be at that Kansas City game. He went with his lady friend, I guess, and I texted him to ask him how it was and he was like longer it was fucking cold man and that's a hockey player saying that he's like how did you do that what's the coldest game you ever played in i think in philly that last game was zero and minus eight maybe um but at least it was sunny and the wind show was minus eight you played in that dallas game me and nate were talking about it 2014 Monday night football 815 kickoff Dallas cowboys at chicago bears I think it was minus 7 and it was 20 mile an hour wind.
Starting point is 01:32:43 How many people died? My matchup. Okay. Good. Jason Hatcher? It was Hatcher. Yeah, he's the man. He's the best guy in the world.
Starting point is 01:32:52 But he was cold. And if you don't follow Jason Hatcher on Instagram, you need to do it because it's great. But Hatch was like 35. And he was like, long. Like my neck is bothering me. Yes. Oh, yeah. It was the year that Hatcher had to get the cowboy collar.
Starting point is 01:33:08 Yep. And he was lining up literally a yard and a half off the line of scrimpment. Because he's so long and tall. He didn't play with that. But I was trying to close that space, and he was not comfortable in that cold. I don't think Miami was comfortable that cold, and I think Kansas City was. And I think sometimes it's not that simple because there's a quarterback and the coach, but I also think one team, they bashed in it.
Starting point is 01:33:30 How warm was it in the Andy's jacket? Oh, it had to be so warm. The mustache wasn't warm. Just like, I just want to crawl up in there. All right. Let me ask you something. For a franchise like Miami where you potentially might have to do this for years to come when you get into playoffs, how can you properly properly prepare for elements like that?
Starting point is 01:33:50 Draft Big Ten guys. No, honestly, hey, let me ask you something. Yeah. Let me ask you at home something. How many points does a Kirk Cousins led Dolphins offense score Sunday? More than seven. More than seven. In the cold?
Starting point is 01:34:06 Yeah. I mean, I'm just saying anybody. I'm saying like whether it's Kyler, whether it's... And Tyreek probably doesn't have to wait on that deep ball. This wasn't all about the cold. It's also about ultimately, and it was going to be about ultimately, the quarterback at some point. I know for the Dolphins fans in the chat, I have nothing against the dolphins. I really don't.
Starting point is 01:34:27 What's happened over the last two years is your fans can be so insane that eventually I resent the fan base. But I know there's a lot of cool ones. But you have to admit that... quarterback is a problem. It is. He's not the reason you're winning. The reason you're winning is because of at times that defense, which was really beat up, and I totally hear you. I thought they could have made a run with that defense, but they were just too banged up. And, you know, how do you fix it? You go out and you fix it at quarterback at some point. And if you don't, you better have the number one defense in the league, and you better hope and make sure that you
Starting point is 01:35:03 beef up the offensive line to give him a perfect amount of time. And if you don't, you better have the number of time so the pocket's clean and you better hope that Tyreek and that that Waddle stay two of the fastest guys on the planet for the foreseeable future. There's a lot that has to go right the way I describe it, right? You got to have a perfect, perfect offensive line. You got to have a great offensive play call. You got to have fast guys outside. You need a better quarterback. All right. So, so let's talk about the moments, the mentions. Okay. Now that's it. Those are the games. Yeah, Kyle.
Starting point is 01:35:38 It's that easy. Okay. And then we've got to pick our games later. I've got my moments. Okay. Best flight. Best flight? Green Bay, obviously.
Starting point is 01:35:46 Okay. You reign supreme. You're America's team now. You went and you dethroned the formerly American's team. You might have. Yeah, there was a lot of things that Green Bay did to the Dallas Cowboys yesterday. And they had a great flight home. Some aren't legal in some states.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Yeah, no. They undressed the Cowboys. Yes. Forced derobing. Derobing. in front of all those people yeah in front of all the Ford trucks a lot of Ford trucks oh they do they have they have like a bunch of trucks up on like pedestals and cheerleaders on pedestals the places it's a hideous stadium it really is reed likes the stadium i hate it's like
Starting point is 01:36:23 cyberpunk 2077 okay um best flight Miami Dolphins let's get the fuck out of here you know what I'm go back to Miami okay we'll be back in Miami I know it hurts worst flight Pittsburgh some guys are just afraid of flying you know there's a lot of guys on teams and if even if it's a quick trip from Chicago to Cleveland in in September with clear skies and no wind guys are praying and listening to gospel and freaking the fuck out now imagine white out condition snorting benzos 30 miles an hour of wind uh if I had it's not over the snow hurricane's not over and they're trying to fly if I had to fly into Buffalo I've never put anything in my nose but but I'm going to crush up some sort of benzodiazepine.
Starting point is 01:37:10 If I had to fly into Buffalo with 65 mile per hour winds, like that's the unscated thing about that game. Yeah, I'm going to say, hey, guys, see you Tuesday or Monday. Whenever the game is. Nobody said no to John Madden. I don't care if it takes me two days, bro. I'm going to rent a fucking sprinter and get somebody to drive me. But the worst flight, Joe Flacco, you know, because.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Worst flight, his footballs. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Because it just all went to shit and it could have been such a special run. Still was special, man. Joe Flacco, he was sitting on the couch, man.
Starting point is 01:37:45 That's off to him. Bevel Conway was Houston. The city of Houston, which I didn't realize is the third biggest city in the country. It's huge. It's huge. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:55 It's huge. It's huge. Yep. Huge. Huge. It's up there with Jacksonville and Lamb Mass. It's cool to see. Jacksonville's Lambass.
Starting point is 01:38:04 Houston's people. Okay. Bevel Conway, Kansas City, Miami. I love watching games in the cold. I'm sorry. That was great. At this point. I figured that was like an alley-U pre-A-Bel-Conway. It's a little bit more complicated. I've railed on this setup before, but it's Skip Bayliss's Kitchen. I know you have a lot of money because you've sold your soul to the devil to fire off assonine takes for major network television for years. Okay. And that's your kitchen, man,
Starting point is 01:38:31 with black, yellow, and white subway tiles. And it has to be the guest house. Like, there's no way he's going to his main kitchen and his wife's like, yeah, no problem. Those ceilings are seven feet, okay? I understand, dude. Like, some people are bawling on a budget, but not, not Skip Bayliss. And he's got that shitty trash can. He does this thing every year.
Starting point is 01:38:52 At some point, maybe- Skip, pay less. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Upgrade the fucking kitchen at some point, Skip, it's ugly. My anti-mevil Conway was Seeing a guy get his knee hit Yeah, that was ugly I could tell you didn't like that
Starting point is 01:39:05 Fly on the wall Go ahead, Kyle The blue tent when Matt Stafford went in it Yeah Alright, here's the deal What did he say? He's like, I know He walks in clutching his hand
Starting point is 01:39:18 Yeah They close the thing behind him And he goes, I know the fucking rule Yeah Yeah Get me out of it Mm-hmm Get me out of this tent
Starting point is 01:39:26 Carson Wentz is over there Like doing high knee Oh, Wentz was looking at the... I was like, this kind of seems like a Carson Wentz spot. I felt like that, too, Kyle. We were talking to... He's a tough boy. Maybe I was talking to myself into Rams Plus 3.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Yeah. But it was like, I go, man, you know, this could be Wentz against golf. I mean, the script... We all saw what happened to Stafford. Yeah. We all saw it. He's tough. Flying the wall for me, the Seahawks dinner the other night.
Starting point is 01:39:52 Supposedly Pete Carroll, who... We gave Ms. Flowers on the Paw. We love Pete Carroll, but the whole L-O-B team came back and had dinner with and had input on like what do they do next and the whole thing but supposedly there was some great some good nature shit talk there was some and russell showed up late that's what i want to know i thought okay p carroll on his dinner with current and past players last night it was nice to hear that russell and sherman were mending the fences carroll said they got the word out to see if we can get the band back together at legion and then guys just started to show up out
Starting point is 01:40:22 out of nowhere in heaven just in the middle of all the guys let's moment of silence yeah we had a great evening we're having a blast out of nowhere door opens up and then walks russell wilson out of nowhere russ just hit the scene they flew up from from san diego or something like that and surprised us which just made it really fun and i'm walking out the door and at the end of it we're getting ready to go and russer standing in the doorway and they both looked at me and said look what had to happen for you to get us to talking to one another and having fun i it's great man like all that there were some great players on that team and I hated them at time. I hated because we were in the division.
Starting point is 01:41:01 But a lot of them, a couple guys are my friends and people I like. And I just am really, really glad Pete got that night. I mean, it sounded pretty cool. You know, Pete Carroll recruited me to play at USC. Oh, that's funny. And he called me one time. And the only stadium I really knew about in the greater Los Angeles area was the Rose Bowl. and I said, I'm so excited to play at the Rose Bowl.
Starting point is 01:41:30 Why didn't you? Well, this is USC plays at the Coliseum. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I hung up and dad was like, who was that? I was like, Pete Carroll. He's like, they play at the Coliseum. Oh, fuck, Kyle. Hollow man.
Starting point is 01:41:44 That's like when I finished the... Dad, dude. I finished... He was like, huh? I finished the interview with Kevin O'Connell and asked him what happens if Aiden O'Connell gets in the Super Bowl? because I thought they were related. Okay?
Starting point is 01:41:56 And then we cut it from the interview because we had some bad info. It wasn't my fault. Let me back the bus up over whoever put that in the pre-show doc. They said they were related. I was, yeah, I was like, I was like, Wikipedia's fault. At the end of the show, I was like,
Starting point is 01:42:09 one more question, coach. Ah, yeah, I was like, let me paint you a picture. It's Super Bowl, whatever the fuck it is. Oh, there's a dead pan, like. Oh, yeah, he was like, ha-ha, I guess we'll heat him up. And I was like, you would do that. somebody in your family, right? Catch you next time. And then we cut that from the interview. It did almost work out. They played on December 10th and even O'Connell was on the other side.
Starting point is 01:42:33 Yeah. You know what's funny, Kyle? You said that Pete Carroll recruited me. Nick Saban recruited me by way of sending me a letter in the mail when he was at LSU. And I got so jacked up because, you know, dad always had something, whether it was like, yeah, I want to play at Florida State. And he'd be like, well, I think you could be a really good college guard if you work on your sets, that sort of thing. So and then it was like, I got an LSU letter. I'm like, Dad, check this shit out. You seen them play? Guard these, none.
Starting point is 01:43:00 And dad's like, and he still vehemently denies the story. But dad is smart. Dad was like, Chris, he's not going to be there long. This is 2003, and he was not there long. He was in the Freedom Caucus in a good way. Yeah, he was in the Freedom Caucus, went to the NFL, and then back to Bama. So let's go Hollow Man. Hollow Man.
Starting point is 01:43:20 Hollow Men, Cowboys Coaching staff. Yeah. Period. It's all fucked up. They're in trouble. Poor Jerry. I was looking up in the suite.
Starting point is 01:43:30 Like, is everybody getting fired in the suite? Like, even if you have some, like, just some... My dad called during the stream... They're going to fire the janitor. To say that everybody in the Cowboys organization needs to get fired. And the janitors, too. Even the people...
Starting point is 01:43:44 Even the yellow security people. Get them out of here. Get them out of here. Hire robots. Hollow man, I'll give it to Jerry Jones, sure. So the hollow man just goes to the whole state of Texas. No, no, no, no. No, just Dallas.
Starting point is 01:43:59 Not used. Fort Worth. St. Louis Memorial. I'm going to give that to the shovelers, man. The shovelers, the snow shovelers that are making it possible for us to enjoy some inclement weather this afternoon as those two teams of Pittsburgh Steelers. How about if you're a fan, are you sitting on top of snow to watch the game? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:16 Fuck yeah, dude. Fuck yeah. I'm going to have my snow pants and the whole thing. People that live in Antarctica, they just sit on top of snow all day. I was going to say about what you were saying, the shovelers. Nobody lives in Antarctica now. Back in the day. Did you know that?
Starting point is 01:44:31 Some people do. Only the crew from The Thing. Scientists. Yeah. You ever seen the movie The Thing? No. Oh, it's a classic. Well, then they're up there too.
Starting point is 01:44:41 It's the classic. Down there. It's Antarctica Down. Yep. There was a fan. Eagles fan. There was an Eagles fan in 2006. I think they were in the NFC championship.
Starting point is 01:44:55 And there was like a Blizzard in Philly, right, 2006? Yep. And there was a fan, and I forget his name. Fuck. But he went out there to shovel snow. And he didn't have sleeves, didn't have gloves on, and he was out there for eight hours. And the next day, he had to have all of his fingers amputated.
Starting point is 01:45:13 No way. Jesus. No way. He was left with two thumbs. Now, that's dangerous. Now, all I, can think was when the Eagles went on to lose that game was he just gave
Starting point is 01:45:23 him two thumbs down. You're sick, though. You're sick, fuck. But I have to give my SDL Memorial. And it'll be to Visas Helmets. Now, people said, oh, what a bad look. Their helmet broke. And blah, blah, blah. Do you guys not understand force
Starting point is 01:45:41 and force distribution? Okay, because if that force is distributed the same way his helmet doesn't break, that same pressure and force impact goes into Patrick's brain. Skull. And Patrick didn't even notice that it happened. It's like an airbag that works. It's like after a car accident and being like, why is the car not looking? They have a proprietary protective paint at Vissus that separates itself from the other companies.
Starting point is 01:46:06 And not only is it a safe helmet, it is the safe helmet. It is like the Toyota. Is this a head? No, no, it is the Toyota of helmets. It's like out of the top five helmets, it holds four of the spots. This thing called a lifestyle helmet. It holds four of the spots, bro. It's like the helmet.
Starting point is 01:46:23 So it broke. People thought it was bad. It obviously wasn't tested in that weather. But in my opinion, it's a good thing to see. Yeah, I mean. Why is that a good thing to see if it hasn't been tested in that weather? I'm not going on. A, good thing to see that Patrick was, A, obviously not.
Starting point is 01:46:38 I don't think he was concussed. People were like, yo, why are they not checking him out? He didn't show any signs of a concussion. And also the guy's standing there. flat-footed Patrick's the one running full speed. And yeah, he lowered his head. Maybe he gets a fine. But I also think, like, when your quarterback is out there
Starting point is 01:46:52 in minus 30 degrees lowering his head at the goal line, like that's kind of fucking sick, too. It's kind of sick, too. And also, like, when it happened and that hit happened, I was like, ooh, Pat might have got dinged. And my wife's like, nah, he's fine. I'm like, that hit was a little. Maybe we can get some Viss's helmets.
Starting point is 01:47:11 I'll get a duck's helmet. Yeah. And we take him outside and bring him. Wow, who's helmet. Yeah. Room temp. We'll take care of them. But anyways, I don't think Pat was concussed or anything like that. I just think if he didn't like it, he's just a badass. Okay. Best seat. My best seat is going to go to everybody who is right outside of the frame in Taylor Swift's suite because if you're going to have me swag
Starting point is 01:47:36 surfing up there as a white male, like, I'm just not going to do it. And you're going to be mad at me because I'm going to stay still. The people who should be thinking, for the people who didn't get in the picture. That's funny because I'm mad I wasn't in the picture. You wanted to be in there doing the... Because I love a good Wayne mixtape. I do too, but I can't dance. Yeah, neither can the people in that...
Starting point is 01:47:55 I'm gonna make a mockery of myself. I'm gonna do it between Donna, Kelsey and Taylor Swift. And Andrew Luck, was he up there? Was that somebody to look like Andrew Luck. You know, that's not a little Wayne song, right? That guy looked like Andrew Luck in the suite. What a random... I went through the whole fucking game thinking Andrew Luck was sitting with Taylor Swift.
Starting point is 01:48:09 I didn't ask any question. How lucky is he? Was it Andrew Luck? I don't think so. He looked just like Andrew. Could be. Remember Andrew Luck at the beginning of this year? He came out in like that decorative, like, costumes. And there's no reason Andrew Luck would be at that game.
Starting point is 01:48:21 No, no. But it looked just like Andrew Luck. There was a guy up there that looked like Andrew Luck. A swag. A swag. Gameball, I'm giving it to Jordan Love, man. I got that chrome on this Bugatti. I'm strong in this Bugatti.
Starting point is 01:48:35 You know, you know that's the, you know. 2V8. Ain't no such thing is driving slow in this Bugatti. That's a remake. Ron Bugatti with three. That's the one I like. That's not the one they put. played in the stadium just to listen to know i think it was a soldier boy right no who is it who is it
Starting point is 01:48:49 you say it like i should give a shit about that song like that song is like it's like a beatles album i thought it was dem franchise boy no it's not it's obviously dem franchise boy so do i have uh game ball now game ball yeah i know jordan love probably deserves it but i'm gonna give it to aaron jones yeah no i'm gonna stay at texas he owns the state of texas Yeah. A lot of ownership being taken in in pack you know the Packers they own the bear, you know, whatever. Yeah. But they really do. Aaron Jones has an ownership stake in the state of Texas and also his past protection, bro. You can sit in the L-L-L-L-L-L room whatever you want. All right. Taxis' viral moment of the week. My viral moment of the week this week is going to Chris Rose and my old teammate Maurice Jones drew with a funny exchange where Chris Rose says this is far on the way. way the best defense that Patrick Mahomes has had. I mean, is it possible that they could ride the D? Who said this? There was, okay, you miss this? It was like a post game. These two.
Starting point is 01:49:59 NFL game day live. Stop. That's the look I just getting you. M.J.D was like, is it possible they could ride the eye? MJD is so funny. He's so funny. If you watch him on that show, oftentimes he's like just getting off a plane. He's like, I didn't see the fucking game. He's so funny. He's funny, dude. He's unapologetically honest.
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Starting point is 01:51:13 Let's talk about these games that are happening this afternoon on a Monday. Okay, we got Pittsburgh and Buffalo first off. now I just want to point out I'm only saying this because if you take my pick to the bank and it doesn't hit just know you got on it the wrong time I literally went 6 and 0 on totals
Starting point is 01:51:30 and sides this week this weekend okay Kyle I'm like you know like it's fucking hot dude my feel this to do that on the first weekend of playoffs too I'm in playoff mode bro okay so I'm gonna tell you what's going to happen in this game I think it's going to go under and I think it's going to go Pittsburgh
Starting point is 01:51:46 I think I think it's maybe like Buffalo, let's say, 27, 18. I'll make up a score just so I can, it's going to be like that. Okay. No, that's not going to over. That's over. Let me, let me take, okay, we're going to go Buffalo 23, 23 to 13. No, fuck, that's a push.
Starting point is 01:52:08 Flipop. 3.14, that's what I said the other day. Yeah. 2314. I'm going to go with the over. Okay. Let's get to hit the number. I kind of feel like it's one of these things where everybody, like,
Starting point is 01:52:18 game got canceled and they thought the storm's going to get better functionally for like football and it is and the total shot up to like 38 and a half and now people are like yeah they're going to be able to throw the ball but i don't think it's going to be easy and if the bills win they host the chiefs if the bills lose the steelers get to play the ravens and the texans get to host the chiefs now remember the nphal's going to get what they want okay that now remember now remember this because you're not you're not going to be a we'll hear the end of it from Pittsburgh fans if Buffalo wins and there's a call or two because obviously the NFL wants Josh and Patrick. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:55 Okay. But if you can get bad Josh Allen for two plays in the game and you capitalize, you can not only hang in this game and you could win it, but I don't think it's going to happen. You'd have to, everything would have to break perfectly for you, but it would be turnovers. And the guys, Kyle, T.J. Watt being out, that hurts, but it would really hurt against the timing offense where,
Starting point is 01:53:18 you know, they're explosive and they get the ball out quick, like if they were playing Miami, okay? But when they're playing Josh Allen, all these guys are going to have a fighter's chance to get there. He's going to hold the ball. Marcus Golden can rush. Herbitt can rush. High Smith can rush.
Starting point is 01:53:31 They're still going to be able to get there. We'll see if they can turn it into anything. And then Philly Tampa go, Philly? One thing about Pittsburgh. Yeah. Not been in Philly. I know. One thing about Pittsburgh game.
Starting point is 01:53:45 And obviously I'm on Buffalo and all that stuff. but if Pittsburgh's going to have success, they have a pretty good combination of things going for them offensively with the fact they got two backs that they can lean on with Warren and Harris, and they've both been pretty damn productive. I like the schemes in which they're attacking these fronts with. They do a lot of this man schemes, trap, wham, that kind of thing. You're going to catch these aggressive interior guys on their heels
Starting point is 01:54:11 or with their head over their toes. But if Mason Rudolph can throw the ball for three yards, for three air yards and get George Pickens to football. Bad things can happen in these kind of conditions. Footings off. Pickens is big. Warren. Screen game, Warren.
Starting point is 01:54:28 That's what I'm worried about. The explosive plays that come from a little spark, a little spark that leads to a forest fire. And kicking in games like this is treacherous. So you might see teams going for it, which is another reason I kind of like the under is like teams might go in areas of the field that they wouldn't otherwise. You also could get the turnovers,
Starting point is 01:54:45 which would kill the under. Philly. here's what you got to do, man. I don't know if it's possible that you can win four games over the next month. Now, what is possible is winning one game at a time four times. Okay, that sounds stupid as fuck. But from a mentality standpoint, that's where you need to be. You need to go down here and say, hey, we got out of Philly.
Starting point is 01:55:06 The regular season's over. We died. Everybody wrote us off. We're dead in a lot of people's eyes. Jalen Hertz hadn't thrown the ball a lot this week. AJ Brown unfollowed all the Eagles shit on his Instagram. He's not playing. The sky's falling.
Starting point is 01:55:19 The defense size. Buddy, I hate that. Well, guess what? Baker Mayfield is hobbled. You can get to him. You can nut up and stop the run. You can play like your hair's on fire for 60 minutes. And I think if you do, and I think if this offensive line, if you trust them and you run the football, you're going to win this game.
Starting point is 01:55:37 They've got to all pros. If you should be able to lean on, they're all pros. If you run the ball, you can win this game. Cover, I don't know. What I need Philly to do is close. out this money line parlay with all the winners from the weekend Phil sims says that you don't even touch the football with your middle finger i think i i think they win this game Kyle and i think the under hits i think i'm i'm a little bit nervous because usually it goes over and under like yesterday
Starting point is 01:56:02 but i go under under i go i go a dog favorite um guys like subscribe tell your friends that was a fun episode it's a lot of fun fucking wild card weekend i love i love that weekend i'm so sad it's over It's Monday. It's not over. Well, it's not over. The King Day. The kids home from school. Thank you, guys.
Starting point is 01:56:23 Hello, friend. Hey, we love you guys, man. We love you guys, man. Whoever you like, whatever your team is, don't be arguing with people. Don't give the NFL too much power. Okay? The NFL fucked up your Sunday.
Starting point is 01:56:35 Don't let it fuck up your week, man. Just move on. Let's have some beers. Move on, guys. We love you. See you.

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