Green Light with Chris Long - NFL WK 11 Reactions! Bills Defeat Chiefs, Steelers Knock Off Ravens & Chargers-Bengals!

Episode Date: November 18, 2024

Welcome to the Green Light LIVE NFL Week 11 Reactions show! Chris, Dr. Fax and Beau breakdown the best games, biggest storylines and most outstanding plays from the NFL's Week 11 slate. In Sunday Night's matchup, an LA Chargers blowout turned into a a tight contest after Joe Burrow led the Cincinnati Bengals back to tie things up but Justin Herbert hit some big time throws and got the Chargers the win to keep pace in the AFC Wild Card race. We watched another Josh Allen-Patrick Mahomes classic as the Buffalo Bills handed the Kansas City Chiefs their first loss on the season. The Pittsburgh Steelers handled the Baltimore Ravens despite not scoring a touchdown as Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry were held in check. We run through the rest of the NFL slate and talk some of the big storylines throughout the weekend and go through the current playoff standings along with our BetMGM Moments! (00:00) - Intro: America's Teams (18:35) - Cincinnati Bengals at the LA Chargers on Sunday Night Football (42:20) - Kansas City Chiefs at Buffalo Bills (57:50) - Baltimore Ravens at Pittsburgh Steelers (1:14:00) - Jacksonville Jaguars at Detroit Lions (1:30:00) - Atlanta Falcons at Denver Broncos (1:43:08) - Seattle Seahawks at San Francisco 49ers (1:47:45) - LA Rams at New England Patriots (1:53:35) - Minnesota Vikings at Tennessee Titans (1:58:15) - Green Bay Packers at Chicago Bears (2:07:10) - New York Jets at Indianapolis Colts (2:17:55) - Fly Over Games: Las Vegas Raiders at Miami Dolphins and Cleveland Browns at New Orleans Saints (2:30:00) - BetMGM Moments: Fax's Viral Moment and First Touchdown Scorer for MNF Want your Green Light Merch so you can look exactly like Chris and the fellas? Hit the website below and get kitted! https://stores.kotisdesign.com/yotehouse/products Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Send any Talent Search submissions to: [e-mail] Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgxWFAA-wuB7osdiAJyLOcw Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Those two quarterbacks that played in Buffalo yesterday. And I know Baham's didn't have his best game. And honestly, Josh had some moments where he wasn't his best. But like they are, I'll be, my kids are going to remember watching them. And I said last night in the live stream, I'm going to be talking my damn grandkids' ear off at the dinner table. And they're going to be like, get this guy out of here. Grandpa's going off about Josh. I don't know what you do again.

Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. Thank you for jumping on for NFL week 11 reactions from the Greenlight squad. We've got Chris, Boe, and Dr. Fax ripping it from Studio J, bringing their reactions from week 11 in the NFL. We talked the great Chiefs' Bills game. Another classic. The Bills pulled this one out. Will they be able to do it in the playoffs?

That's the next matchup that everyone's looking forward to. A first half blowout turned into a great game on Sunday night. Football, Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert had a great match. matchup came all the way down to the end and we had a great raven Steelers game the a fc north is going to come down to the wire at the end of the season you can already tell the playoff picture is coming together we go through that we also mention our bet mGM moments have a blast and a half thanks for joining welcome to the green light podcast bocifus what's up man hello chris how are you i'm pretty good how are you i'm super man i turned 33 last thursday

Family was happy birthday, Bo. Butter King. Beating the odds. Yes, it's shocking, really. Yeah, had a nice old birthday weekend. Enjoy the next seven years. Because after that, it's kind of around now. It all goes to shit.

Enjoy your remaining years. 33-year-old butter. 33-year-old. What's the longest butter can last? I don't know. I'll put that to the 10. indefinitely if it's treated well, Fax. Hey.

What about facts? What's so, dude? I like the color palette today with the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the aqua. Is that aqua? Yeah, fins up. I had to do it. Fins up, baby.

We'll get to the fins and the flyover games. I got some good things to say about the FACC, Tua is back. I love it. Hawk, Tua, Tua played well. He was off the spot. Bro. You're going to make me do the Dolphins game already? My bad.

I didn't mean to. I didn't mean to. I was saving that for last, best for last. And I was. And on fantasy, it says I still have 1% to get in to the playoffs. You're cooked. And Jonu, you're cut. Johnu Smith.

Woo! It took you the whole season, bro. But he was lightened it up. Fantasy, too. By the way, when we get to the Bengals, you know, they have a 10% chance to make the playoffs. They have 10x. Your chances of getting in the playoffs. So you might be cooked.

But we'll get to that in the Bengals. When Nate hits us with his signature segment. Hey, guys, I want to start with a little layup line. I don't know, Bo, you probably saw this on my Instagram, but maybe people didn't see it. Who knew Bill Belichick was a songbird? This just broke out on set. Oh, my God. Bro.

Listen to him at the end. Oh, damn. Kenny fucking Rogers. Hold them. Hold them. Look, you know, when I seen this, you know what I said? All this did for me was legitimized the Aaron Hernandez doc. Why?

They have a scene. They have a scene with Bill before he goes out to practice. And he's like that in his office. And he has music blasting. And he's singing. Well, Bon Jovi. Everybody knows he likes Bon Jovi. And he's singing just like that.

And then he just snaps it off. And then he walks out. And he's just all business getting ready for practice. And I was just like, I wonder if this is like a legit scene. I mean, he evidently likes music. I didn't know he was a Kenny Rogers guy. I knew he was a Bon Jovi guy. But that was fun because it just broke out.

Like somebody was humming it or something. Like, I think we were talking about somebody in the league and like they got a, you got to know when to hold him, you know. And then the song broke out. And then I hear Bill's voice. And I'm so glad somebody got that on camera. So that's layup line today. I don't have any real music for you.

But I will say this. The Bengals being cooked. That's music to Dr. Fax's here. And I wanted to do the, I wanted to let you do the honors here. I got a Weber grill over here. I want somebody, can somebody, I'm all hooked up to my shit.

Can somebody take the Weber grill and bring it over? And I just wanted to be ready for Bengals. Don't open it yet. I got some America's teams. Okay. Maybe a little early on the Chiron there. It's my fault, not yours. Okay.

But right now we're in America's teams. I just want you to be able to open that grill when we get to Sunday night football. Okay. Okay. America's teams. I don't know if you all have any, Bo, Nate. It's funny. You guys say that. I had an America's team, and it was going to be funny because it was going to be a North America's team.

But my guys in Winnipeg didn't pull it out last night. Can you pull the microphone? My guys in Winnipeg didn't pull it out last night. in the Grey Cup. Oh, damn, the Great Cup was last night. They're about to be the CFL Bills, bro. This is three straight Grey Cup losses in a row. No.

Yeah, like, and it's just like, it's hard. You know how it is. It's hard to get back to the game, and you do it every single year and you lose. I know it's tough, but Blue Bombers all the way. Shout out to the bombers. And they had Jason Kelsey on their side because Zach Coleros is the quarterback, and he was Kelsey's, quarterback at Cincinnati.

Oh, no way? Yeah. He was cussing up. How old is this guy? He's like 32. He's up there in Winnipeg. Yep. Slinging it.

Just slinging it. Winnipeg Jim Kelly. I don't mean that in a bad way. Great place. But they've lost three of them. There was some excitement during that game, though. Oh, he's getting a shit. Okay, now I knew what he's doing with his hair.

There was. You're right, but we might see that in a little bit. Yeah. So that might be America's team right there. Is that, that classy lady. Oh, yeah. That lady is going to come up. later in the show.

Maybe some people who watch the Grey Cup know what we're talking about. Oh, yeah. Okay. America's teams, Italians. Tommy DeVito is in the lineup for the Giants. They're done fucking around. They're trying to sell some tickets now. No, seriously.

Yeah, they're back. Yeah. That's smart. I mean, he's coaching, Dave's coaching for his life right now. So like bring in a crowd favorite, a fan favorite, try to win over the media a little bit and the fine denizens of New York City. I think that's a good move from him. Nothing like winning over the media and winning over the fans momentarily while you drive yourself down in the standings. And maybe DeVito ends up winning games for them. I got a,

I got a marketing idea for the giant. They should do a dollar pizza night at the stadium in honor of Danny DeVito. If you're in New York, you know, you know what it. I'm Danny DeVito. Just, just, just So just wait a little pizza is not playing quarterback. Are they little short pizzas? No, so you don't know. In New York is known for before the inflation. Uh-huh. You can stop and they have spots.

Like, it was like brothers pizza or different, but dollar pizza. You get a slice, a regular slice of pizza for a dollar. It's Danny DeVito night. Dollar pizza. Andy DeVito, legendary quarterback. He's got that pocket present. Yeah, they're starting the shortest quarterback. I don't know.

Andy DeVito can do it too. quarterback Eddie DeVito from always sunny in Philadelphia boo! All right, well, look at Tommy DeVito.

Tommy. Yeah. My bad Tommy. And his, you know what this means? Sean Stalada. He's back, bro.

That's, I mean, he is so back. He's got some new suits. Can you imagine what's his bat signal look like? A Calzone?

Yeah. A Calzone. And he's like, up there's My boy Tommy DeVito. He walks out of a butcher shop. They got to call him. He takes the smock off or whatever.

He throws it in the trash. Yeah. Listen, I don't want to go further. I picture him. He's on his phone. He's like on his phone just eating cold cuts straight out of the fridge like Tony Soprano. That's how he conducts business.

He's not in an office. He's eating Gaba Gapagoole. How much, how. Remember that scene, Matt? How much is his agent's phone blowing up right now that they just announced that he's the starter? Oh. Nonstop, right? That's what I'm saying. He's doing these like marketing deals. He's like, I'm getting money now. Money. Money. I'm getting money. This thing. I don't know if that's a that like for us. For them, it's like. It's like this. You know how it's like this? That's like good, right? That's like it's also like this. Yeah. At the same time. At the same time. So that's two for one. So that's one America's team. Also shout out to my lineage, the adenizios. You know, that's my mom's side of.

family so we have some Italian. I think I lean more Irish though. Okay. Also in America's team 1972 dolphins. What was the first thing I asked you when? Let's check it on Larry Zonka. Our boy, he's in Alaska somewhere, probably watching the game, just got out of his bush plane. He just killed a fucking bear or something. I don't know if that's in season up there. But the dude is living his best life in Alaska. He's very passionate about that. team and he should be. There was a video of Larry Zonka. Can you pull that video up just while I'm talking about it? I got a man

crush on Larry Zonka. Chris Sims last night said he had a man crush on the on the Chargers and then they almost lost the game in the second half. Can you pull that video up? I'm just saying that video like very generally but it's very Zonka and passionately talking about that 72

Dolphins team. And hey, while we're on this topic Chris, I know we're doing our mentions during the course of the show now, okay? You don't like I, no, I like it. My mention is actually the 72 dolphins, best seat. Oh, best seat for sure, dude. Best seat.

Best seat for sure. Chiefs are no longer undefeated. So the 72 dolphins, best seat, baby. They're cracking champagne. Zonka's living his best life, like you said, up in Alaska. So that's my best seat. Just want to slip that one in there. Dude, that's awesome.

These mentions rolling. That's great, Bo. That's a way to capitalize on timing in the show. Good job. Guys, we're a well-oiled machine. Thanks, man. Can you, is that video here? can you play this video i fucking love that we took the dot damn thing that's that happened i'm tired of people

telling me how they named this they named the shit we took it i don't have any emotional response that's the best part that's the best part listen oh there's more to it i think but i i i want larry zonk on this show like the desert needs the rain dude i need to go to Alaska. I want to sit down with Larry Zonka by the fire, polish off, whatever he likes to drink and just talk to him for three hours. Dude, I think he might be the most interesting

man in football. Big Lair. Up there with John Riggins for me. It's all the, it's all the Caucasian ball carrier. And Donna, and Danny DeVito. Well, it was a long time ago. All the fullbacks. Yeah. No, but Larry Zonka was a bad boy, and he's passionate about that team and Danny DeVito. Yeah, we want Danny

Davido on the my bad Tommy I know your name bro when you do an interview with danio de vito and it's like two chairs do you have to like make arrangements you know what I mean like set arrangements do you think he walks them with like he's like nope that's the chair I use is we got to get the camera that like if he's at the desk he's on one of those really

tall ones another america's team Amanda serrano and katie taylor oh my goodness somebody in my group text the other night was like, I can't believe we stayed up late for that shit. There was supposed to be a great fight. I was like, there was a great fight. It was an incredible fight. And the funniest quote in sports I've heard all year where Amanda Serrano's trainer,

who stole the show for me after the fight, he's like, listen, Katie's a beautiful person. She's just got an enormous head. Because the story of that fight was Katie Taylor. And I'm no boxing, like, aficionado, but I feel like she was leaning in with that nagging a lot. And I also feel like those fights now, like we knew it was rigged, right? We knew something was, it wasn't going to be what we thought it was, right? I learned a couple things the other. Well, reinforced a couple things. Number one, you can look really good hitting a heavy bag. And in a phone booth, I think Mike Tyson would knock all our heads off. Yep. But I also think, like,

age is a real thing. And like your legs are a big part of boxing. As you know, Matt, as I know, as Nate knows, we've all been a shout out to George here in town. Shout out George. or boxing trainer, but like, you got to have, you got to have good feet, your legs got to be under you. And especially they made the ring bigger. It was like everything about, and I respect Jake Paul's hustle for sure. And I, as an athlete, I respect him. 40 mil and 20 mil. But here's the thing I respect most about him. It's going to piss some people off that stayed up to 1 a.m. He got Mike Tyson paid. Yeah. No, yeah, for sure. $20 million for that man. And I don't care if we were all ripped off. I don't care if I paid $50 for the fight. That's on me, which I didn't. But that's

on me as the consumer and that's on you if you're upset about that fight that's on you what i saw was a guy who probably needed money who almost died as he put it earlier this year who went out there and lasted eight two-minute rounds or whatever it was got hit a few times through a few punches uh and jake probably could have knocked him down at the very least but he didn't and people want to complain and say oh you wasted my time no one cares about your time no one cares about your time You had a decision. You could have gone to bed. I could have gone to bed.

I didn't. And honestly, I came away from the fight, and I know it was very disappointing to a lot of people feeling like warm inside. I was like, you know what? That's cool. And you know what else? And what else is cool is that I think Amanda Serrano is like under he like he backs her. So like one of the reasons why he put her under and he's putting her under all her,

his fights is because like women's boxing doesn't get any shine. And he knows. the type of pull he's going to have at all of these fights. So she's been fighting and she's been making a name. And I think those girls, that was like the highest payday ever for boxing and viewing for them also. So no doubt. Everybody wins.

And they, and they're the consumer, but you know. No, but no. And like you said, they stole the show. How about the Indian movie star from India?

The consumer won. He had like, no muscles. He was the first undercard. And I was like, what are we doing here? There's no way this guy's going to lose. The Indian, the Bollywood industry is not going to send this guy over to get eaten. What pay-per-view?

What was, what was Bob about to say? What were you going to say, bro? I got two things. Two things I really like from this fight. The first thing is I think we got a really great look at Mike Tyson, you know? So that brings me to my Beville Conway Award for this week, which is Mike Tyson's butt cheeks on Netflix. Oh, my God. That interview was a walk away from him was pure comedy.

That was so good. He was cheeked up. Yo, why did I... He's peeked up on Netflix. Why did I just expect Bo to say the Ring Girls? And he just said Mike Tyson's... Mike Tyson's cheek. Ring girls didn't move me.

That's Iron Mike. They didn't. Guys in my group chat talking about the ring girls. I'm not... I'm not... I'm talking about Sidney Thomas. Oh, there's like a behind the scenes of the ring goes. All of them sitting together, like, getting ready to go out and like spraying like stuff on them.

Yeah. It's a cool video. It's a cool video. Hey, I just want to say... It's got that one sent out with the Grey Cup. Great Cup video right next to it. What was the second thing, Bo? Was that was two things?

That was the second thing. I was going to say we got a great look at Mike Tyson and we also got a great look at the Ring Girl. Sidney Thomas. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, listen. I was my Bevel Conway.

I thought that was, hey, anytime you all want to do this shit, I like entertainment. It's not even like, hey, if I wanted to go watch a boxing match like that I was expecting to see, I would watch boxing on like one of these ESPN broadcasts at night. one of like a Friday night fight or something like but unless you're that got if you're that kind of fan you know better and if you're not that kind of fan then you don't love boxing so like why does it matter you got duped a little bit and Mike Tyson got 20 ms I'm glad he did so and I bet Katie and Jake Paul to win in a little parlay in that Katie and Jake Paul yeah so you liked her enormous head loved it you were pulling for that that cut if that was a sanction match no way you can

there's no way you're going to I thought her eye was going to come out through the little slit. Bro, like, and then the girl is just like, it's tough. I feel like if you're a fighter, it's human nature, it's just like, I got to keep punching at this. And she was, and I was just like, oh, that was wild. I know some people are like, oh, I want to talk about football. Okay.

And then lastly, America's team, people who were at Bar Bill last night, is anybody listening, is anybody watching nursing a hangover in Buffalo? In the chat, talk to me. I said this on my little live show last night. If you could teleport me anywhere in the world, it wouldn't be the pyramids. It wouldn't be Machu Picchu. It wouldn't be, you know,

it would be Barb Bill in Buffalo last night. Somebody said that this was allowed to say heard that stadium on that fourth and two last night. And so we're going to talk about that game in a moment. But first, Nate. Hit it, Nate. Uh-oh. Give me the grill, bro.

Give me the grill. Give me the grill. Put it up here so people can see it. Put it carefully without the top falling off. Holy shit, guys. This isn't rocket science. You just use both the hands. It's reeds.

Weak-ass ribs. Okay. Here's what we're going to do. And, hey, this pains me, and they are not mathematically eliminated. They might be the best team to ever get cooked this early. I mean, some of the things that the... I hope it's who I think it is. I don't want to say who it is.

You ready to open it up? Yeah. Okay, open it up. Oh, shit, the tape's not holding. But, uh, oh, man. We're going to roast this thing. We're going to, we're going to get some. They're eating the cats.

They're eating the cats. They are eating the Bengals. The Bengals are probably cooked. Like, there's no other cooked. They'd have to win. Here's what's crazy. They're not, they're not cooked if they don't, if they went out. But like, who's expecting that?

Because they invent new ways to lose. games. Oh, man. They have the passing league leader, the touchdown leader, uh, the receiving touchdown leader. They have a sack leader and they're what, four and seven? It's incredible. It's crazy how they're losing games. And it's not even like, listen, I want to say the head coach is fucking up because he is. He's making game decisions in my opinion that are like he doesn't know where he is in the game sometimes, which to me is like, you can be a great play caller. They're not as bad as some other coaching decisions that. We've discussed in this illustrious pod.

Yeah, but they're just paying for it more. But the subtleties of the mistakes you make. Like, what about Jamar Chase calling them out? Jamar Chase, that's not a good thing. But also, like,

if I'm the kind of guy that, like, you feel like you got to stick up your employer to get paid, like fuck them all. Exactly. But I will say this. As I watched the fourth quarter,

I felt like the chargers passed the baton to the bangles. For years now, it's been chargering. Now it's bangling or bungling. And it felt like, all in one it was poetic sometimes the NFL is like poetry sometimes the NFL is like it just it just makes a lot of damn sense and everything happens there there were narratives on narratives on narratives like as this is happening Herbert has the seven in seven passing completion street

and you're like here we go again and now everybody that wants to say he's trash is going to be able to say he's trash for the the rest of the year or until they get in the playoffs and win a damn game, which wouldn't be true. Huh? That seems like a, that seems like a Dr. Fax take to me. No, no, I'm not talking about you. No, I don't think he had that take. I'm just trying to poke the bear a little bit.

No. I said early, I'm telling you, Herbo is a dog. No, Herbo's a dog, bro. He's a dog. He's a dog. And to what you just said, like, it's funny because it's switched where the Bengals used to be the team that you don't want to play.

And now the Chargers is a team that you don't want to play. No, you don't because they have a lot, they have a lot going on both sides of the ball. but I will say this, they tried their best to charge her in the second half. And like, if it's not for those McPherson miskicks, I worry the narrative like on Justin Herbert is bigger than ever, which would have sucked because I thought he was lights out for a lot of the game. And I also thought they asked him to do a lot in the second half. Okay, like they abandoned the run game,

which to me was a little curious with the lead. But when you're guys that efficient, I get it. Now, this is their first field goal win, like a three point or less win in like 10 games that, it came down to a field goal. I don't think they've won a close game in forever. So this was huge for Justin. It's affirming for the coaching staff.

It's affirming for the culture. It's affirming for the team. And on the other end of it, the Bengals are in the fucking Weber grill with an apple. And I don't know why they put an apple. You want to... Why do they put an apple in the flavor? Flavor.

Flavor. I figured. Flavor. You want to know something that you're probably going to be surprised at here? The Bengals, since they do need... to win out. Yeah. They have a bye week. What a perfect time for a buy week right now. Oh, it's the, it's the perfect, but the worst, too. It's the perfect. It's the perfect. If you reset,

it would have been better like five games ago and then they would be in this situation. You know what I'm saying? No, for sure. Think about it from that, from that perspective. For sure. But look at that, look at all this. Chargers second half, mismanagement. I have started 27 to six on fourth and goal last night. I'm like getting ready to go to bed. I'm like going to bed during a Sunday night football game. I'm in bed. Not so fast, my friend. And Minter brings the house and leaves a guy on Jamar Chase, and you're like,

oh, here we go. They come out, they throw the ball twice consecutively, three times, took a sack on third down. You're like, what are we doing? And you could just feel it. There's a Herbert fumble. There's a ruffing that negates an interception. Slater holds Hendrickson, and they got a punt, and they give them the ball back with five minutes to go.

You're like, I know how this ends. But the Bengals missed the two field goals. and I hate in a game that's played by football players. And we're going to evaluate these two football teams. It comes down to a guy who plays fucking video games during practice. I'm not saying McPherson does. I'm saying they all do. Well, that, hey, Chris, there was a lot of kicker issues.

And we talked about this on the pod last week with daylight saving time. They're all what it was. But it's fall back. They're off. And think about how good they were at the beginning, beginning of the season. Dues were hitting like 65 yarders like it was nothing. Now you have Justin Tucker, who's actually, my hollow man this week we'll get to that a little bit but he missed two kicks he's no longer the

most efficient kicker in the history of the nflerson missed kicks the dude from the browns couldn't kick to fucking save his life dustin hawkins bass yeah bass missed a kick that uh the extra point it could end up being very big at the end of the game if things would have gone differently like it feels like there were a ton of kickers that were just spraying the ball everywhere number one the weather's starting to change but some of these kicks are indoors and so i do think our fallback theory actually works here. Because, you know, like, people are all tired. And then you go out west, it's almost midnight.

Like, you know, ahead of that game, McPherson should be kicking it at 11.30 a night. I don't know if he's like a 1030 time guy. He probably is. Yeah. He's probably a 930 bedtime guy. So like, well, Chris, this is kind of what I was thinking, though. And I want to hear what Dr. Fax has to say about that. I think kickers in the NFL, like league wide, are just kind of unnoticed after last week with the 49ers.

I think they're kind of running scared from the likes of Debo. I think that's kind of got them a little. I think they're a little shook because of, you know, that physical confrontation. That's the, that's the most physical confrontation a kicker has ever experienced, you know. So I think, you know, the kickers group check, you know, there's only 32, 33 kickers in the NFL. I think they're all kind of talking about that. I think they're a little nervous and I think that's affecting their performance. Here's one thing I wanted to bring up.

Now, we're bet MGM people and there's a, there's a Dolph Lundgren, commercial with Fandul where he's karate kicking lobster and it's actually like it's not the worst commercial um and he's talking about you know bet the eagles he's saying they got a kicker he never misses is is is this Russian interference is because he's Ivan Drago he's not about the Philly he'll always be Drago to me he's jinxing Jake Elliott and so i think philly fans should be thinking about this like we need to get that damn commercial off tv can we buy that commercial out yeah Now, I will say this, as bad as I don't feel for kickers sometimes, it can be one of the hardest things in the world to watch a man meltdown on national TV. And it happens.

And when it happens, it's like a dog that is like, you know, when the dog goes blind and like the right leg doesn't work and you're just like, man, it's kind of like. It just all happens at once. It all happens at once. And it feels like watching Justin Tucker and McPherson and like Jake. and like I believe in Jake still but but it's just hard to watch these guys fumble over the thing that looks so easy for them

all the damn time but at the same time they're kickers so it's like fuck them like yeah that's what I'm saying it's a total it's a weird feeling I have should I hate them should I laugh at them not when I had the bangles you know who else I could say fuck them to what in my hollow man this week

yeah is going to the refs the referees like they're bad right now bro like How do you not know the rules? Like, Trey Hendrickson, he gets that horse collar. It's in the pocket. It's in the pockets, in the rules that when it's in the pocket on the quarterback, it is not a penalty.

For the refs immediately not to know that. And for whoever's listening to New York and whoever calls in, for them to immediately say, pick up that flag, it's not a flag, and let it go. I don't understand what's going on. Let me lend a little, the devil needs though advocate especially in the circumstance where pass rusher gets a flag and by the way that that was a grounding before they have wasn't it and that should be a runoff okay so all that matters and when you look at the kick in chicago and pat macfee cried foul this morning he's i trust him and one of the best punters of all time he knows the fucking rules okay he says that should be everywhere all over you he was talking about the agate penetration yeah they're blowing call but here's what i'll say about the trey hendrickson thing okay at first i was like, come on. And then Trey like threw him down. Like, I'm just telling you, I'm not saying it's the

right call, but I've been around the quarterback as much as anybody in the room. And I'm just telling you, I'm, I'm super nervous if I'm the guy that does this to the quarterback by the collar. They didn't call it a horse collar, did they? I'm not sure. They called it rough. Roughing. Okay. And so for me, I'm looking at them saying like, and Trey had an off sides where he got a little, like, Trey wanted that thing bad last night. You could just tell him. He's brushing his ass off. It's a, it's a ticky-tack damn call, but when you put yourself in those positions, you just said it. They don't know what the fuck they're doing. They're, they're officiating has gotten worse. And what's, what's terrible is replays, the vantage point we have, I always say this, has outpaced the officiating. And so they've always been

probably shaky as hell. You know how many, how many calls our parents, generation of refs missed? Like, they were just like, yep, end of the game. Like, that was the worst call ever. Not a fumble at all. the tuck rule, like things like that. Yeah. So, um, and there was a tuck rule, uh, kind of deal yesterday with Drake May. Yeah, the fumble. Yeah. Remember that fumble though? There's a fumble for the Broncos read that was very perplexing. It was. Yeah. It was on a fourth down. We decided it was a terrible call in the end zone on,

on the, on the, in the Minnesota game. Yes. The guy for the, the Titans, the backer Mike Browns, Mike Brown blows up the, I mean, perfect hit. Perfect hits. The only place you can hit the guy. and take the ball off, and it's perfect. So anyways, before we go down this road on the rafts, I just want to say, it's not, my hollow man goes to McPherson. I was going to give him worse plane ride, but the Jags exist.

Okay? So I cannot imagine McPherson on that ride home. I mean, he just went to bed. Like when I woke up this morning, he just went to bed. Those are terrible. Those flights back east after game like that

if you missed two field goals. And it was like he missed him. and the succession of missing those field goals it was to the point where like people on the side were like come on you fucking idiot you know what I mean like usually you're like you know and you said it it's the only position where they pat you on the head when you do

something wrong and last night it was like the sideline was just like enough man enough bro so it wasn't just miss field goals it's the ineptitude in the red zone early it's chase brown who played great you know little moments like chase brown not cutting that ball up you know like being behind the sticks in a big possession you know it's it's a jemar chase drop it's a mike hilton dropping a pick six we're talking about the but they're not in the

grill so and when you when you want to talk about what what makes a bad team bad because they're the best bad team i've ever seen and it's two sides of the same coin so it really doesn't matter because the net the the net is mediocrity okay you you you miss a bunch of hidden plays That's what bad teams do. They miss a bunch of little opportunities to write the ship. They can do all the spectacular shit. They can go forth and two bombs over Baghdad to Higgins. Higgins is strong with the ball.

The whole night. Burrow is outrageously good. It's shaking off Derwin James. And they missed the face mask on that one by the letter of law with New Rule. But the whole thing is when you miss little plays like that Mike Hilton and he played heroically at times late in the game for an older guy in man coverage. but obviously you got cooked by McConkey when it mattered. It's the third down before the charges get the ball back and win the game.

I thought Burrow had Tanner Hudson underneath. And there were a number of moments in this game where I'm like, just take the profit, complete the ball, and keep the clock running. They had so many opportunities to run the clock down and win the game, and they just fumbled. And they go to Burton in too many situations. You know, Perryman's on the sideline for a lot of the second half. half and I'm like just run the damn ball a little bit more. I understand like you've been in this

mode of feverishly trying to kick the doors in for 30 minutes because you're down 21 points, but there are times too where you got to take. And this is what I'm saying about Taylor not knowing where he is in the game. Do you remember the Ravens game in Cincinnati where they get in field goal range to win the game and they get conservative? Okay, that wasn't the time to be conservative. This was the time to be conservative in some spots and run a little clock and make them use timeouts and take the profit. You know, that Tanner Hudson play, that haunts you a little bit. I don't know if Burrough saw that at the moment.

He definitely knows now. But I think it was Burrow playing that good, and Herbert out-duling him in prime time feels like he exercised the demons. It was one of those games where it's like, okay, that 400-pound gorilla is off my back now. Like, I am no longer the person that blows, you know, end-of-game situations, and you damn near did. But he had the ball last, basically.

I mean, and he hits that out and up to McConkey. And, you know, it was just an incredible game, period. And it's a shame that one of those two teams is going to the playoffs. And the other team's going to be at home. I asked this question earlier. I said, when's the last time an offense like this was at home in January? I said, Matt, look it up for me. What was the team you named?

2010 Chargers. 2010 Chargers. It's more poetry. It's more poetry. They had one of the best offensive of the league, maybe the best offensive league. And they didn't go to the playoffs. And I said, I said, hold on a minute, players, one more. 2013, off top of my head, 2012, because the year after Spags got fired in St.

Louis is my head coach. And this is what's amazing about the NFL. This guy is a legend as a de-coordinator. There was a year where he went down in New Orleans and they couldn't stop, like, anything. And they were the worst defense in the league. I mean, it was like historic bad. They went seven and nine. They had the best offense in the league and they don't go to the playoffs.

And so now you're up there on the wall with. these teams and you're wasting Joe Burroughs Prime. And I don't know if they're ever going to fire that coach. I don't know that we should be talking about firing that coach because at the end of the day, the reason they're here is largely the defense this year, but

it's not insignificant that he's coaching for the Bengals because the Bengals do not want to eat up the back end of guys' contracts. They don't fire coaches. And it's noticeable. Jamar Chase was saying that in the locker room yesterday. He said, ask the coaches. I only play football in the field.

As a coach, is I don't call the plays. But guys, if you believe in conspiracies like me, you would have known it was written in stone that the Chargers are going to win this game. The brother's theory is still alive. And guess what?

It'll be alive for next week too because they play each other. That means one of them has to win. Unless it, if they tie, that would be a real wrenching thing. You never said they can't. I've never said that. I said they can't.

That on the tie, Nate. I know you love to chase some of these bets. Bet on the tie. What are the odds? Hey, we might, we might have hit three really good theories so far this year. We had the Lions Hangover. We had the fallback. And now we've got the, well, you started it with the Harbaugh.

The Harbaugh. So let me say this one last thing about this game, Babel Conway. I mean, if this game was played outdoors, just, I mean, like uniform porn. And I got to say, like, this is the Bengals maybe their best get up. The orange pants is great. They just, everybody looked great out there. last night. Good job. And Joe Burrow I actually had an anti-bevel. Joe Burrow

better not be Bullish drip king, but keep going. I had an anti-bevel and it is related to Joe Burrow. It's just, I can't, I'm getting this is, Joe Burrow is playing great. He's got what, 27 touchdowns, four picks. He's leading the league in passing and every week we see him sitting

dejectively on the bench and it feels like a wide shot like a 0.5. Oh, he looks like no one around him and he looks so dejectic. So flat. And not flat, like I'm giving up, but he just looked like, I was sitting there thinking, I don't care how bad my day is. I might not, I might not want to be Joe Burrow. How hard is that to say, like, I don't want to be Joe Burrow. How great would it be to be Joe Burrow? But like watching him on the sideline

there, it's like, he's trapped. Like that feeling is trapped. It's like, bro, like I'm playing my heart out, dude. I'm playing at an MVP level. He'd be in the conversation, if not for the fact that the damn theme is so bad. And what more can he do? which calls into question, you know, evaluating the MVP award the way we do because, like, if they won more games, he'd be the MVP, but do nothing different. You know what I mean? Yeah. So he's the only QB since the merger to lose three games in a season with 300 plus passing yards, three plus TDs and zero interceptions. Brady has done that twice in his career. Wow.

Burroughs done it three times. Now here, some talking head is going to say, oh, it's Burroughs' fault. And we've had some people, I mean, Chris Canney's my dude. He taught me how to two gap at Virginia. That's my guy. First Lev sled I ever hit. Chris Canney's standing behind me. He goes, you might be all right.

And I'll never forget it. I was like, oh, cool. But I totally disagree with his take. I totally disagree with his take that he kind of held on to for a while this year was like, Burroughs the problem. Burroughs. Far from the problem,

bro. Burrow looked cool as hell entering the stadium facts. I take issue with that. He looked good, man. What was he wearing? Oh, he was wearing the, You had this little crop. Yeah.

A crop top. The baby blue jacket. Crop top wide wide. It was the same outfit, bro. It was pure Gen Z. That's that's pure Gen Z right there. You just wouldn't get it, man. You're not 33 like me.

You're not a young buck. Bro, you do have some outfits. You got some fits, boy. Well, love it. Love it while last, Bo. You have four more years so you catch up with me, man. So, yeah. Well, just wait till you.

Then I'll be old and wise and firing off. Sage old takes. Sage, Tags. Like you, baby. But their, their playoff chances

swung 28% with those kicks. It's guys inside playing video games and shooting pool. The, the sport is, I haven't liked

the sport can be really cruel. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Sport can be really cruel. I don't like him ever since he stayed out for that halftime show.

Oh yeah. You know, I've, that's bothered me for years, man. It's like, who did that? Who did that?

I don't like that. That's always bother. Who did that, who did that, Bo? the kicker stayed out for the halftime show i don't even remember who it was it was um it was snoop dog dr dr dr dr dr dr m mn mhm yep yeah kendrick and it was a big thing at the time it's like yeah i agree man like go you're here to win the fucking super ball right you're not here to watch the halftime show

remember when we thought that quarterbacking was like oh all those guys left philip rivers is gone eli manning's gone obviously brady and and manning but like brady and manning we have uh in the next game in my opinion like that's your brady and manning now i mean like it took a while for peyton to win a damn super bowl okay we've got joe burrow we've got justin herbert we got jared golf we have lamar jackson i should have put him sooner but like and if i'm forgetting a damn guy forgive me bow necks bo necks and by the way this quarterback class might be really good oh yeah i'm just that the way bow's coming along and we'll get to bow nixon a little bit so the nfl's alive and well bro alive and

well we just got to fix some of the officiating we are back and some of the damn uniform we are back i've always always NFL's always been back man's always Chris those guys you're talking about like the superpower quarterbacks right now yeah no loss this weekend yeah no's loss bro lost except for except for uh our guy josh allen well obviously are we let's talk about are we are we and lamar jackson lost. All the best AFC quarterbacks lost. Yeah. Are we, we're 100% throwing the stamp on the bangles.

I'm like, I'm 10% they're not cooked. You're heating up the iron. But I'm 90% they're cooked. How's that for them? Can we look at their thing? Because I was that for, I start walking your way. You start walking mine. They have 10%.

Their current playoff odds are 10%. 10%. Depends what you look at. The athletic has them at 22%. So look, they have the Steelers. Look, they have Steelers twice, but look, the next game after the buy is the Steelers. Probably, probably the hardest game that they have to play. If they win that, if they win now, I think they can beat the Steelers. Yes.

Like, I think they could beat every team. That's the sick part about this. And that's the sick. It's just like, bro, like the way you evaluate most teams, it doesn't apply to it. It doesn't, but for them, they find ways to lose games. And I'm so glad you said it the one time because this whole time with this thing where I was like, I'm playing my flag on the Bengals. Last year was the Chiefs.

And I was like, oh, gangbusters. and then this year I'm gonna do it again with the bangles and you said it like a month in you were like bro like this is the rightest you've ever been and still been wrong I don't even feel wrong like you know like sometimes when I have a take and like at the end of the day you're like oh this is embarrassing I'm not even it's not my fault it's their fault you know what I mean and the irony their fucking the irony of the way this schedule sets up and I don't even want to put this out there but I'm gonna say it because it's probably going to happen the bangles if they're running

the tables, they can ruin my Broncos bet. Oh. If the Broncos are on win eight, looking for win nine. I'm going to tell you what just ruined your Broncos bet. That kick last week. We know the next game we're about talk about. Okay. Buffalo, Kansas City, because now it's a race.

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if you're a bet losers, just make sure you use bonus code greenlight when you sign up. Do that last part, please. Okay, along the lines of what we just said, those two quarterbacks that played in Buffalo yesterday, and I know Mahomes didn't have his best game. And honestly, Josh had some moments where he wasn't his best. But, like, they are, I'll be, my kids are going to remember watching them. And I said last night in the live stream, I'm going to be talking my damn grandkids ear off at the dinner table and they're going to be like, get this guy out of here.

Grandpa's going off about Josh Allen on. Seriously, he's drunk again. Or Patrick Mahom. And people are going to be like, yeah, we get it. They didn't have to go on forth. They went anyways. Yo, there's a video that Meg should we do. You're the white version of this girl.

She went viral for saying, I think my. boyfriend is emotionally cheating on me with LeBron. Yeah, I'm with Josh Allen. Because of, because of his fandom with LeBron and how he talks about him. Like that's how you talk about Josh. I love Josh, bro. I just do. And part of it is I love the fact for him that he proves a valuable lesson. Like you can't write people off. You can't write people off. People develop. Quarterbacks develop. You know, I just think about playing on his team and thinking about him trucking people and like wanting to go play harder and and never feeling out of it on third down for years on teams I was on I just like when it was third down I got my helmet and so like when I got

to new england and brady's just like picking people apart I'm like oh my god you know like this is cool I can just watch so as a de lineman maybe I'm a little bit like head over heels for quarterbacks because for a lot of my career when we had them they were hurt or we didn't have them at all or you know like i i just i'm enamored with it when i see it because i never experienced it like i experienced it late in my career but took a long time for me to see good quarterback plan i went from the outhouse to the the penhouse like watching tom brady every day and then watching hot nick foals like heater nick foals like that's insane you know i mean so when i watch josh allen i'm a fan and when i watch my homes it turns me into a fan and i can

enjoy the game. Like I'm just level with y'all in the chat. Like this is a job for a lot of the time where I enjoy watching football, but we watch so much damn football. I got to take Saturdays off. I don't watch college football. Like at the end of Sunday nights, I'm just like, oh, you know, at the end of this show, when I go home and hug my kids, I'm like, I feel like it's been 48 hours straight of football. Like, I don't take any breaks all week watching tape. So there are times where I feel like I'm just grinding. And there's times when I'm watching this game where I feel like I felt seven years ago when I was a player. And for me, it was appointment viewing every January I knew I was going to be.

I was going to be at, you know, the Irish pub here watching, you know, whether it was the mile high miracle or like, I got to be a fan because I watched. I never played among greatness. But watching it, it makes me feel like a fan again. And so I love watching these two quarterbacks play. Josh didn't play perfect. You know, he wants the pickback, although I don't know if that's a miscom or what. I mean, he's not like just missing.

He missed Samuel on a third and seven out of the half, which I thought was big, and then could have been big. And then he missed Morris, which would have ended the game. Like, those are the throws he wants back. And I feel like the bills in general have multiple opportunities to put this thing away, up a score, including fourth and three where they go for it. And I just mentioned throw in Romo's like, oh, they should have kicked. Romo forgot that Lance Bass is like Lance Bass.

Tyler. Tyler, Tyler, my daddy to be able to. Hey, Lance Bass. Hey, Lance Bass. Do you think Lance Masks? Is that the in sync guy? Is that the Insink guy? The Insync guy?

How many famous vassas are there? There's just two. So here's the thing. I feel like Josh on that fourth and two had his Heisman moment. If this was college football, you'd say that guy's went in the Heisman. And I know it doesn't work like that. You got to wait to the end of the season. It's more so in the NFL.

It's like the collection of your work over the course of a year. But I thought that moment was incredible. And then on a week where Lamar doesn't play great, you're kind of like, oh, Josh's ahead. I thought that moment, somebody said it was the loudest the stadium's ever been. You know, and I believe it. He just, he personifies that, like, no quarterback, Mahomes, but like Josh Allen is so Buffalo, dude.

He's so Buffalo. I wonder if they're going to come out and say it was louder than the beastquake. If they got, like, couldn't be. That beast quake. That's another moment for me as a fan back in the day. Like, I'll never forget where I was when I saw that. And guess why they're in the playoffs? Because we lost to Charlie Whitehurst.

Yeah. Okay? We were two weeks ago, we could have been, we would have got our ass kicked by the saints. So I'm kind of, you know. But when you look at this matchup and Spags could be holding things back defensively, certainly. But more than anything, and I say this with all due respect to Chiefs and Chiefs fans, like, you know I had your back last year. and when I think something, I'm just going to say it.

I wonder if the subtractions on the Kansas City defense pair with the additions to Buffalo's offense make this a tough matchup no matter when it's played. And I know it's been regular season playoffs, but it's been razor thin. Lance Bass, Tyler Bass, missing a big kick last year at the overtime game. I'm not saying, you know, they didn't win it fair and square,

but it wasn't what Josh did. Josh has given them fits. they haven't given up 28 points in a game in what 30 games this offense is different it's going to be hard to get them off the field and they were down keon and and and and and um and kinkade you can kate so those are huge huge pieces they win without him and then like you know having amari cooper just for the couple shots you throw it at johnson i mean like to to have a guy like that who can catch a 50 50 ball and it's not going to be 50 50 with josh going to be 80 20 You know, he just got to catch.

He made that one-handed catch look so casual, man. And then he was tracking that one, like over his shoulder. It was so nice. He only had two catches, but I feel like he opens things up so much for their other guys in offense. Like, Mac, Shakir. Like, dude, Khalil Shakir is bawling right now. Shakir gave his liver up for the game. Yeah.

Four minutes to go in the game to hold on to that football. I don't know if they win that game if he don't hold on that football. And he's been. He started to get up and then went back down. That's how you know that shot. That shit hurt. That shit hurt. What did the announcer say about his backside?

Absolutely. I don't know. But how about last night? Perryman absolutely speared some guy in the back. And they were like, they were like, and they're rubbing lotion on his back on the sideline. I'm like, I don't think that's lotion. I think that's like VMSO or icy hot or microphone. Some bengue.

Some bengue. Yeah, some bengue. But another guy I want to mention, and I said it right. before he went off. I was like, bro, they need to get the ball to Samuel more. I really think that's one guy in their offense that can do a lot of stuff for them down the stretch. He's great after the catch. He drew a big penalty on a third down. This offense is, it's hard to get him off the field, dude. When you have Josh on third and nine, is there a quarterback in his current circumstance that you're more confident is going to stay on the field? That's the question.

That to me is the question. No, because he doesn't have the receivers they have. And honestly, he's got great. He's a great runner, but Josh is really hard. I mean, no, he's so, I mean, I was looking at. I was stunned that the, uh, the chiefs did have any sacks. And it didn't feel to me, like I got to go watch this again, but it didn't feel like spags brought a lot of those exotic pressures that he's known for. Yeah. You know, like it didn't.

He probably holding some stuff back. He's holding some stuff back. No question. But I just want to say, because I'm going to be asked in January when they play each other, it's going to be hard for me to not take the bills. even if it's a coin flip game i'm not saying they own them fuck no this is the best rivalry and not a rivalry and they hate each other but like as far as like a viewer is concerned love watching these two play and kansas city could certainly win that game they're the chiefs they're trying to three beat but i do think the matchup favors the bills in a way that it hasn't in

years past and so especially in buffalo man but in in kansas city at arrowhead you could see it going you know 24 17 chiefs you go you certainly could you certainly could yeah I don't think it's going to be 17, though, bro. That's the thing. It might have to be 31, 24. It might have to be 30, 27. And so, like, now you look at the chief. Especially if they get Coleman and Kincaid back, you know.

And on defense, they're going to get Milano back at some point. Like, they've missed guys throughout the year on that side of the ball. So Chiefs had a 91% chance of the one seed now is a 54% chance. And that's my point about the Broncos. At the end of the season, now you're going to play the Broncos in week 18, and it might matter. And so I'm sorry for you bet. But I also think the Broncos are legit good. Yeah.

And before we move on, I'm giving my best flight. This might be a shocker. My best flight is going to Andy Reed. I think this flight home, knowing you don't have to think about running the tables and people worrying about that, the team worrying about that. Now you can kind of a team that's good. Yeah. You can really coach them up hard, sturdy right now after a loss. Yeah.

And like get things together. I feel like that's probably like just not even having that thought or thinking about guys worrying about that now. And I feel like that affects your coaching and your decision making down the line in the organization. If they're worried about running the tables, if you should play guys, if you should sit guys. All that's out the window now. And here's the thing about that fourth and two. I just want to say this. I don't think they go if Bucker's out there.

And so, you know, and also to Nolan's point earlier, like there have been, A number of it. This matchup has come down to who's had the ball last, which is another reason why when people say, well, you're beating Mahomes in the playoffs. It's a totally different deal. Okay,

well, Josh has done everything humanly possible to beat Mahomes in the playoffs. He couldn't do any more. So really what it comes down to is like, can you keep pace with Buffalo now? And that's a different conversation. Chiefs are going to get Pacheco back. They're going to get guys back. Got it.

But I do think on the defensive side of the football, Ligerius, he's not walking through that door. Willie Gay's not walking through that door. And as much I like the guys that inspects is great, it's just going to be hard to get them off the field. And so we're talking about, you know, Bill's offense. Let me talk about Bobby Babbage and Sean McDermott. And we met Bobby.

And I met Sean up there when we went on. And like Bobby's the man, dude, he's super cool. I was like, when he rolled up on us, I was like, this is the D coordinator. He's so chill, bro. Like he can, nobody gets little guys to play bigger, said 100 times than Sean Dermott and now Bobby Babbage as well. Cam Lewis, Terran Johnson, or Taryn Johnson, I was told. I've been saying that wrong for years. Resoul Douglas, okay, making a big play on third and one, eight targets between D. Hop and Kelsey, like, that's intentional. And in the first half,

when possessions are at a premium in the game, they made big plays, whether it's the pick, whether it's a spy with Bernard, which was brilliant. You take the inside move with the right end. You force my homes to you invite him away from his throwing hand and Bernard scrapes off. It really is less of a spy than it is like a design spy kind of play. But like I love their defense. They'll only get better. And again, 91% now 54%. The bills have the tiebreaker and the Steelers are on their heels as well, which makes no sense.

Even though I respect the fuck out of the Steelers. We'll get to again. Hey, Chris, I want to say, though, you're talking about Bobby, Bobby. Babbage. Hell of a name. One of the most interesting matchups to me in the Bill's Chiefs game. Like everyone's talking about Mahomes, Allen, obviously, two premier quarterbacks. But like, think about the interior of the Chiefs offensive line. Creed Humphreys, Tune and what's his name, Trace Smith. And then you got the three big boys for the Bills who played really well, guys that I love. Ed Oliver, Jordan Phillips, Dequan Jones. Jones is, I think, a really

underrated noseguard, man. He had a hit on Patrick Mahon. homes in the first quarter i think right as uh pat was getting rid of that ball that led to that pegs like i mean that's that was like you those that bill's defense has always been solid and i think those three and then russo two on that front seven are are really fucking good like they're they're going to really help them down the stretch here's the thing i worry about a little bit into your d line here's the thing i worry about a little bit bow if pacheco comes back they're a little bit more able to take what the bills give them the bills invite you to drive they invite you to take long drives and they want to make you make a mistake,

which Mahomes doesn't do a lot. And, you know, I think if Pacheco gets back, they're more on schedule. But I do think the bills, you could say the same for when Kincaid gets back. You think the middle of field is tough to defend now. Like, come on.

And so same thing with Coleman. All these matchups get kicked down the line of guy. And all of a sudden, Amari Cooper's on, who knows. And Coleman's on, who knows? And like,

so you've got to pick your poison. To wrap this thing up on this game, the bills have the Niners, the Rams, the Patriots twice, the Jets, and the December 15th showdown in Detroit, which is going to be a great game. Great game. It's going to be a great game.

Great game. And I think Detroit is going to have a hard time defending them too. Now, can the bills stop the run? That's the big question. The Steelers have the entire AFC North, which they ran through last year, the Eagles and the Chiefs remaining. I think on paper they got the toughest road.

The Chiefs have the Panthers, the Raiders, the Chargers, which are going to be a great game. The Browns, the Texans, the Steelers, and Broncos. Your Broncos last game of the season. So this is going to be a fun race. Let's, uh, you want to talk about those Steelers now? Let's talk about the Steelers. A little indivision tilt, Steelers Ravens. Yeah. Did you want to reward our most random player first? Oh yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. So last week we asked for chiefs or bills. Uh, badm gym had Roscoe parish. I'll just breeze through some. We don't like Miami players.

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you know they say you're not a raven until you beat the stealers and so are these guys collecting paychecks like can they technically collect paychecks is rae Because a lot of guys in this team have not beaten the Steelers and it's kind of curious when you look at it over the years because The post Rathusberger Steelers is what we're talking about right now. Yeah, they should take the logo off the helmet. Yeah, you have to like earn it You got to earn it or black helmet. Yeah, that's brilliant, bro. That's great. That's brilliant. You get a Buckeye The commercial when I was going up is a buck eye. Okay, and we thought it would be a special. I was a buck eye. Okay. And we thought it would be a shootout. We're dumb. Okay. Yeah, I feel like these games are always 19, 17, 18, 16, 27. It's like unbelievable. It's always the same score. I feel like the last 10 matchups have had the same exact

I'm just so glad I stared at the total and didn't do anything because these teams went eight of 27 on third down. And Baltimore fans can certainly say, you know, well, we weren't ready to play. And you weren't. But are y'all ever ready to play? Honestly, like, I'm about to rant for a second. This group leads the league in penalties. They have, they have, how many, 100 and eight? 108. Okay, they're on pace to break 2011 record set by the Raiders now, albeit an extra game. But you don't want to be in that conversation.

They had a 12 men on the field after the Wilson turnover, which was incredible. So you get a turn, the Steelers get a turnover. All right, let's get our shit together. Let's have 12 men on the field. Multiple special teams. penalties and a little hope for y'all ravens we looked this up the teams anybody have a guess that doesn't know already who are the teams that went to the super bowl that are the most penalized in past 10 15 years giant i remember this because i've heard it before but once we looked it up

made a lot of sense is it the giants no it's not eagles no it's not oh the past how many years i dare you falcons you said the past how many years 10 15 years they played the patriots Falcon. No, it's not the Cahawks. Seahawks. Seahawks were worse in the league in penalties the two years that they played in the Super Bowl, which makes a lot of it. Here's the difference of that defense is just otherworldly.

And, you know, like they kind of thrived in chaos. And, you know, Russ, like Lamar, scrambled a lot. So he bail out of the pocket. You get some holds and that sort of thing. So like some stylistic stuff. But, you know, there's your hope. You know, and as up and down as Lamar was, I just, this is my biggest problem.

You know, you give them all the weapons, great. He plays like an MVP. You know, we talk about there's so many Lamar haters. He's not a, I can't believe some people still talk about it. He's not a quarterback. He, you know, he chokes. And listen, the playoff thing has to get better. But I'll tell you, at the end of this game, he was doing Lamar things.

Down eight, he's scrambled around, and you're terrified if you're a Steelers fan. If they didn't have two-point conversion with that thing, and they were up six or they were up five, Like, I'm nervous. I'm betting the Ravens. And it played out that way because he finished a drive. But guess what happened on a drive? Three different people let him down. Bro, is they four hours let him down?

He's doing that shit that Tariq does now. Okay. Having one again, just having one bad, like, drop a game. And you're the main guy. Catch the ball. But it's not just, two. I think he had two pretty bad. Oh, off the face mask?

It's not just him, though. Do you remember the other mistakes? Do you remember the other mistakes? He throws a circus ball to Aguilar, who comes down with him. Macari's downfield. And then the last play of the damn day for them, essentially, is the two-point conversion. You need to have your best plays. When I heard Bill Belichick talk about this, it makes a lot of sense, but it's at inside the NFL.

He's talking off-camera about, like, I don't understand with some team we were talking about they just bad plays at the end of the game. When the game's ending, you know you got to have your best five plays. best seven plays. You save them. You hold them. If you're in a ball game and, you know, at the end of the game, you got to have your best. That was not their best play on the goal line. It wasn't their best play by design. It wasn't their best play with who was aligned and asked to block Nate Herbig. Was Derek Henry even in? No, Derek Henry's not in the game. Like, what is that? On top of it, likely and Aguilar are arguing the whole time before the snap. Like, are y'all not on the same page?

So like there was something going on there pre-snap. And then they had so much penetration off the edge. I think that, dude, I think they were supposed to be aligned separately. I think they were supposed to flip. They were supposed to be in other, exactly. So then likely would have had a better angle on that, essentially just like a down block. You know what I mean? On the, on the edge player. It's also more realistic to have the big guy blocked down on her big. And yeah, and I'm, now he's a vet, dude. He's a Super Bowl champion. Like, I'm pretty sure he knows what's going on. And like, likely, he's like, hey, get off me, man. I know what I'm doing. But likely he's in the huddle asking Lamar what's going on right before they break the huddle like even after so they're never

on the same page they're always and they left t j wott i just played dumb they let t j watt left t j wotton block multiple times and then one time they're like let's block him with pat ricard they got bailed out on a queen dpi or a hole so baltimore fans can say hey we we weren't ready to play this time but what else is new and then baltimore fans say if we don't miss two kicks but you can't say pittsberg didn't earn those turnovers. Okay, that's the thing about Pittsburgh. The biggest improvement, hidden improvement on this team from last year to this year is what? We talked about it.

It's the linebackers. Okay, I know Queen hasn't been a world beater there, but he has been a big improvement in range. And the same thing with this Peyton Wilson guy from NC State who can flat run. And Patrick Queen pulling the ball out before the half, you need those three points. The Wilson pick was one of the best plays of seen all year. That was a play of the game. I think that was the most important player of the game.

It was hit. Like, he was beat. It ended up taking that thing away. I don't know how. Like, how do you even know that the ball is there in your... Dallas Goddard look like. He does look like Dallas Goddard, bro. Yeah.

And here's the other thing. Herbig, bookending the game with two huge plays. And, you know, like I said this last night, Herbig comes in there and punch the ball out. You know who that reminds me of? His dad, T.J. Watt. You know what I'm saying? Like, T.

T.J. Watt is the guy that like, I said this last night, you hang out around your dad enough. You kind of become your dad. Al, Howie. Howie? You know, like, you're different, but you pick up a lot of the same damn, you know, mannerisms and things you do. And I think, like, being around T.J. Watt for these other backers, like, they play like him, you know, in their own way. And High Smith, he brings that edge to T. He's a, he's the, he's the, he's the thermostat, not the thermometer. We always talk about that. He sets the temperature in the room. And so like even when he's not making the play, that's him rubbing off on her big. And so they have a culture and the linebackers are better now. You know, can you imagine, you said the most important play of the game. I thought the most important play of the game, the hidden play was Roquan getting hurt. Because the minute he was hurting, they were hitting Washington in the middle of the field and they were going right at those guys, the backup, Simpson and the other guy.

What's the other guy's name? Malik Harris. Malik Harrison. And, you know, to get that last field goal, that was. directly a result of Roquan Smith being out of the game. And that was the difference in the game. So can you imagine if the Steelers were an average team in the red zone? An average team in the red zone?

And you were on this. We talked about this. They need to watch some damn Taysom Hill film. You see? You see? They had some packages for Justin Fields. I think you had two carries. I know he botched the last one, which drove me crazy for him because you're like,

they got to trust you. They got to trust you if you're going to go in there for a couple of plays. And you slide short of the sticks. You know. Yeah. But I still want to see him in the red zone because I don't think, I don't think damn Russell Wilson can see in the red zone. It's not like you got any shorter, but, you know, like, that is.

He does dance around in the pocket and he does that little back shoulder spin out. But then he was doing it like twice. I was like, dude. He's like spinning in place, like not really going anywhere. I feel like there are a couple times. I was like, ah, damn, Russ doesn't. The level of mobility has fallen off for him so much. watch it's crazy well when you like and he's still used to the muscle memory of and you know it's hard

to break as an older player like i got old in the NFL and i'd sometimes think i could do the same things i did when i was young and i end up looking stupid and you're like well i can't take that move anymore and you know i'm sure it's the same for quarterbacks where but i i just thought i thought that washington heave you know it was bad but i think washington's got to go up and get get that ball you know he's six nine bro you're you're powerful for a reason bro like go up and he's massive But I think if we could see a little more Justin Fields in the red zone, like maybe just take the red zone snaps. Like, because right now it's not working. Yeah.

Like that's going to bite them in the ass at some point. It's a miracle. Or were they 0 for four in the red zone. Dude, they were like 0 for four. And then they're like, oh for four against the giants or whatever they are. Like just. I feel like there's been two games this year that they've won solely off of Chris Boswell kids. Yep.

There are. Like I deserve. Literally two. Literally two. Yep. They won week one against the Falcons. But they're used to doing that. It's just now you should be better because the offense as a whole has been better than

anything in the post-Rothosberger era. And then, you know, you stall in the red zone. Just the delta between their performance between the 20s and, you know, inside the 20s crazy. And this game, I have my game ball because we're talking about it, is going to Danny Smith. The special teams for the, I mean, for the Steelers, they're a legit, it's a legit edge for them. Like in this season where we see so many kickers missing kicks, kicks getting blocked, and it seems like small things. But that's coaching.

A lot of that stuff is maybe coaching errors or coaching adjustments that you can help fix. And yeah, kickers got a kick. But coaches know, like, when their guys may be off or whatever it may be. And you have someone like Boswell, the special teams won this game. They won this game for that team. And it's something where that like when you're coming down to the end of the season, this is going to be a big part like if guys are going to be able to make his kicks or not. It's not automatic anymore.

Is there a special teams coaching league that's more famous right now for sideline shots than Danny Smith? Can't be. Can't be. Just ripping that. Oh, yeah. Pieces of gum in. That's a good one. Oh, dude.

Who do you think? I talked to Scotty Miller a couple weeks ago. He said he loves that guy. I bet he does, dude. But who do you think murders more gum, him or Carol? Who do you think is murdered more gum? And that's the worst gum to murder. I got to go to Carol for that one.

That double bum? I mean, double bubble. Double bubble? Double bum. That's the Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson double bomb? The double bubble.

You get maximum 37 chews out of that piece of go. You think Mike's going to come out with a strain that's like cheeked up or something? Like, do you think that was because you do everything intentionally? Yeah. Like, you're the marketing guy. Why? He knew is that he showed us his ass. cheeks on purpose.

I don't know. He wasn't even intending on winning the fight. It's the craziest thing. When I first saw the ass cheeks, I was like, oh, maybe we got a problem, Jake Paul. Yeah. Because this guy's, this guy's like showing us how crazy. Oh, I thought the opposite. As soon as I seen that, I was like, oh, this is a sham.

Okay. A sham. I'll say that. Okay. All right, while we're doing our moments real quick, you know, Nate, you had game ball for the special team's coach for the Steelers. I mentioned briefly my hollow man, Justin Tucker, he missed those two pivotal kicks. six points would have been huge for the Ravens.

Also, like, to just not capitalize off of the turnover early, and then it's just so demoralizing, you know, especially when you have one of the best kickers in the NFL, Justin Tucker was historically the most accurate kicker in the NFL, and he is no longer. Cowboy, who is that again? Eddie Panero. Eddie Panero now. Oh, wow. Yeah.

By 0.2 percentage points, I think. Shout out to Eddie. Shout out to Eddie. Yeah. Like, I know Justin Tucker wants those back. He wants that stat. like that's a huge job well what he mentioned after the game he didn't mention this and so like i want to tread carefully because the way it's being framed is like tucker's complaining about the field conditions they

asked him about the field conditions he said it's definitely a thing they played a game here yesterday but it's something we make a big deal about and so like chris boswell's used to it too and here's maybe what i want to give chris boswell after we dumped on all these kickers i i want to give him the you're not a kicker award he's a football player i've also seen him get blasted on the sideline running fakes before and like he pops up okay but uh he he has to kick the ball in more inclement weather in in thick grass and like fucked up sod situations and you never hear his name other than like boswell and he's all outdoors right yeah all all aFC north you know he's he's playing x amount of games a year yeah yeah and to kind of keep kicking just and tucker's back in

he's my worst flight because of what we were just talking about and also we've seen how Lamar acts after a win on a flight I can't imagine how being on a flight as a kicker missing two kicks in a game you lose by what two points just feeling that the whole flight home and I totally get it if they're upset with Tucker but Tucker's made a lot of big kicks over his career. I think like most people, it's the dog thing. It's like, is this guy, we need to take that long ride. Damn. You know what I mean? No, because with a kicker, there's just very little nuance. You know, like, where's the kicker farm? You got to take him to the kicker farm. I don't know. Yeah, like, we're taking you the farm. You can sing opera all day. They got,

that would be a funny, like, like, insurance commercial or something, just have a whole bunch of old That's like had like a little everyone knew them for a little bit. It's just like funny. This is where kickers go. This is where we go when we're done. It's like the Chrysman house. I had the same day of the commercial that I think would be incredible called the Chrysman house and all the people who didn't get the Heisman.

Well, what was it? I can't even remember. Everyone that won the Heisman and just had no NFL career. Kind of. I think it was like that. It was like just they're just upset. Yeah, I think lost the Norwoods. Yeah, lost in the Norwoods.

The Norwoods. It's just like people in a cabin. Anyways, here's the big deal with the Ravens. Don't they get the Chargers next? Greg Roman knows if Roquan Smith, Hammy's not right, you got to be concerned about this defense now. Okay, like,

because that's one of the biggest reasons that they're not where they were last year. It's not just the back end. It's also losing Queen and having to rely on certain guys. It's second level of defense. And like if Roquan's not playing, that's bad, against a team like that.

My last question is, what is the worst record that a team can have and still have the MVP? We kind of touched on it with Joe Burrow. They're not a bad team. They're a good team. They'll make the playoffs.

And then from there, who knows? But like, are we kind of getting into the territory if you win the wild card? If you win a wildcar birth, can you be an MVP? Has that happened a lot? I don't pay attention to the MVP like that.

I don't think it has happened very much, but I think it could. It could. Like 10 wins. and you're dominant, yeah. Yeah. Wait, the year that the Giants won the Super Bowl

was Eli the MVP? I don't think so. No, because they had like only like, see, this is how bad I am with MVPs. I don't even know if Eli ever won one. I don't think he ever won one. Has Josh won an MVP? Not yet, although he is currently

plus 150 and the favorite for the first time this season. And you'll never hear me argue about the value of that guy, as you know. So what's next? Blowouts? Blowouts. Blowouts.

Lions Jags. I'll get Motor City first. Worst flight, Jaguars. Also, Shot Khan is, he's not a morning person, huh? Because Doug, there's no new. Coach Peterson had a press conference this morning. No way.

Yeah, they tried them out there. For the Monday morning. Dude, I kind of feel like this is one of those situations like with Mike McCarthy where they're like, I'm so mad at my coach, you've got to coach this team. You got to coach the greatest Jags team ever assembled for a few more weeks.

Listen, Doug's obviously going to get axed at some point. And is it obvious? Yeah. He's lost 52 to 6 and there was like rumbling. But my thing is, if that is so obvious now, like why isn't it done?

Like, why isn't it done? Because maybe shock cons left in. It's what time is it 3.44 PM? So it's going to be shocking me at the end of the season of shots like, you know what? I don't want to fire my coach right now. Oh, that's what I'm saying. That would be the most something's up thing of all time.

That would be the most Doug has naked pictures of shock on thing of all the time. And I love Doug, but like this is what happens when you when you lose like this, you don't keep you don't keep your gig. I mean, and they have a buy week, right? So you got to think he's going to be gone early. Yeah.

Maybe they're just trying to. Maybe they're just giving him a couple days. administratively like yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Listen. And I love Doug too. I wonder if he's giving these guys hog andoss.

anymore. Can you imagine going to Detroit with the record they have, like walking in the Lionsdown literally, you know, at the Detroit Marriott last night and he's like, everybody gets some Hagenas. Everybody's like, no, I'm going to bed. I'm depressed. This is the worst thing ever. You need whatever you can get.

You need any sort of small cheer in a locker room like that. No, honestly, sometimes it's better to be in a locker room where the bottom falls out. It's better to be in a locker room on a team where the. bottom falls out than on a team that like was close but just like can't like the bangles i'd rather be on i swear to you that's now now the bangles great argument for us yeah i'm on to something the bangles listen if they lose next week they're out right i can't say for sure i'd rather be on the bangles like or on the jags and the bangles but if they lose next week i'd rather be on the jags than bangles because you're just so far from the bangles locker room is like you walk around one to

punch things and like the Jags locker room's like who's the boss now it's everybody's just an independent contractor you're out there playing as hard as you can trying to debut you know uh show your stuff for the next coach or free agency and like it's ugly and it's not fun I've been there a bunch of times in my career but there's ways that you can kind of get through it and like in a bangle situation you know you know what you can do right now what you can plan your trip to mecanos and I I already look, Jaguars, your last game is January 5th. That means a flight to Mekino's the 6th to maybe the 13th for a nice week there is going to run you about $1,700.

That means if you get it now, it won't be $2,300 or higher when the season ends. So that's something that you can look into right now. Is that your best flight, Dr. Fax? Maybe. To meekinos. It's like Semicryans. Have you on the payroll? Yeah.

Visit greece.com. Like Belichick is like an ambassador for Croatia. Are you like a Greek ambassador? Mekinos is, it just looks like a cool place. I've ever been. That's my, that's my spirit of animal. I like, he is. He's funny.

No, but and I just like, meganos, what are they going to do for a week? Just hang out in all the white buildings? Like, I don't know much else about what's going on in meganese. Get on the water. Like, you know, me. Love nights. Yeah, bro, you get on the water. You see some yachts.

Yeah, exactly. See, Bo knows what's up. Is that like a Mali capital of the world? I've been to Mekanos. Oh. You probably could find some... You've been to Mekanos? Ah, look at that.

See? I wore a lot of white linens. Where do you think I get all my little neck scarfs that I wear around? From Mekinos? You get them directly shipped in from Mekinos? I got a guy. I got a neck scarf. I thought you were getting him from like anthropology.

Oh, no, no, no. Oh, no, no. Oh, no, no. Okay. No, so here's the deal, man. We're going to listen. Can I ask a question real fast? Is there anyone, any NFL head coach that you think is having more fun than

Dan Campbell right now? This was him this morning. He picked up his massive coffee from Starbucks. Look at that smile. He's so happy, dude. He's just so happy. He should be. He's happy losing.

He's 152 to 6. But he's happy winning a game where they throw five picks. He's happy winning 52 to 6. And there were moments in this game where I was like, like damn they're definitely rubbing the jags nose in it yeah but it's not personal they just hate everyone yeah and that's the cool thing about the lions it's very detroit that should be a fucking tag it's it's not personal we just hate everyone you know fucking sit put it on a lion's t-shirt but um you know somebody there's got you know the thing on the internet now is like you'll see a t-shirt and everybody

will be like here's where you can buy the t-shirt and it's all like them trying to make money that's what's going to happen to us but that'd be a great t-shirt the other coach i think that is feeling that way is probably Tomlin. Just like hearing every year, everyone talk about his team and what you're not going to do. And it's just like, we say that. What do you say?

I'm paid very well or very handsomely. Yep. And he's never had a losing season. And it's just like he's back at it. And like after the game, he had did something where he like beat it on his chest and like he was barking at the crowd. And I was like, I know he wakes up every day

feeling like, yeah, like they write me off every year. And all I do is win. dude it Tomlin has been proved right dan campbell's been taking victory lap since you took the job they're culture guys i said this on the the last week's preview show you remember there was this whole well remember you don't have to remember that long but there was this whole like let's hire the shortest youngest looking guy who spent time with with the shanahan you know and then it was a mcvay and it's all offense and lefleur who's a great coach and mcvay's a great They're both top five, seven coaches.

I don't know. I haven't ranked them. But they're all clones from the same family tree. No, no question. So it's refreshing to get Dan Campbell, who is just fucking ripping coffee. You know who goes through probably two or three tens a day,

just yelling at everybody at all times. Heart rate 143. Heart rate's got to be through the roof. We sent him Copenhagen one time. He was so happy. And so like here's the deal. Look around the league at the division leaders. And as of last one,

week late you there's a division seven of them are occupied by you know leaders or teams coached by um you know defensive or culture guys defensive coaches are culture guys i can never remember a time in recent memory where you know you can think about that's why we talked about dion coming in the nfl i'm not going to on its head be like yeah dion can't coach in the nfl like you know because he hasn't been one of these whiz play callers or whatever like at this point coles Culture wins, dude. Culture wins. Defensive.

Jim Harbaugh is a culture guy. Sean McDermott's a defensive guy. You know, go around the league. Nick Siriani, who is, by the way, that Pat McAfee segment where the guy was imitating Nick and Nick's in the two box. I don't know if anybody thought it was gold. That guy needs an Emmy. I don't know his name. He needs an Emmy.

Ty Schmidt. Ty Schmidt needs an Emmy. Great job, buddy. And Seriani just didn't know what to do. He was like, I'm looking at myself in the mirror. But Nick Siriani is a name. another guy who he takes a lot of shit, but he's got one of the best winning percentages in the damn league. And half the people don't like his quarterback. So tell me why. And you could say

it's all Howie Roseman. But all I'm saying is there's a lot of guys right now coaching football teams who aren't these boy wonders. And Dan Campbell's article one, dude, when he got hired and he said he's biting a kneecap, I'm so glad we're past that that, that whole like, oh, these meat has stupid coach. Like, that was the whole thing. I'm like, bro, like give him a chance. What? Because he says he's got a he's got a he is a culture guy, but he's got one of those young little whizzes with him. He does have one of the other. That's actually my game ball is going to go to Ben Johnson, lion's offensive coordinator who will be a head coach in Chicago. It feels like immediately. Yeah. 645 yards of total offense. Also, anytime that you rest your, all your great players in the NFL and week 11, like that's, Like, that's fucking amazing. And they could have done it earlier, let me just say. They might lose both.

Dude, it didn't even seem close. They might lose both. They're going to, dude. Aaron Glenn is a beast, too. Yeah. I think they've had a pick, multiple picks and like, man, they've improved. Good, good, good, good, bad problem to have, right? No question.

And then we find out, you know, how Dan and Brad Holmes make it work on the hire. Like, you know, we talk about the other team in the division. You know, the two offensive coordinators have been fired this year, have been. in Bears hires. You know, it's the guy in Vegas, Getsy, who was their lashes, they're higher. And then this year they fire Waldron.

And they took a good, hard look at like the list is all successful coordinators. So I know Lions fans want us to talk about the game. It's hard for me to talk about a 5-2-6 game. You guys are awesome. Lions are great. I think this is so crazy because, like, I can never remember a time where,

not never, but a team like the Lions, we're so heavily favored to win the Super Bowl. Like right now, you know, the odds on favorite in Vegas. For the first time. It's hard to, it's hard to wrap your head around it, but it makes so much sense. They're the best team top to bottom.

I think it's the only time in our whole life they've ever been the favorites. And when I say a team like them, too, I also mean, like, who would have guessed this two years ago? You know, like most times that somebody's a clear favorite in the Super Bowl odds, like that's a program that's been building a while. They have some quarterback, and Detroit has a quarterback. But the point is, is like when they picked him up a couple years back,

nobody was like, oh, this is the start of something. You know? And when Dan Campbell got hired, nobody said, this is the start of something. And when they started winning,

nobody was like, hey, they're going to win the Super Bowl in a couple years. They got a shot to do that. So good for them. My question off this game was going to be, what's the worst ass kicking y'all ever got in a football game?

Can you remember the score? Can you remember how it felt? Wait, did we, we lost bad to, to Mark Sanchez and USC here. Oh, that was awful. I came back for that game.

I was standing in the silent with Troy, Paul, my love. Nice guy in the world. And I was watching that big-ass safety just obliterate all y'all. Oh, my God. Who was it to, no, who was that guy? The huge safety.

Oh, he was just, the Bengals. A kid from USC? Yes, he was just yapping. Taylor Mays? Taylor Mays. And Mark Sanchez juked me with a big-ass don't joey knee brace.

No. No. In the red zone? No, no, no, no, not in the red zone. I kind of remember somebody doing something bad in the red zone. Oh, man. You glad. No.

But it wasn't even close. I remember that game. I'll tell you what, my second year, you can look this up. I think it was 2009. I think it was 47 to 7. We got beat by the, by the Jets with Brett Favreve. Brett Favre Jets. I was over there at right end.

Thanks a lot, D.C. And just doing cardio on DeBrigo-Fergerson, who has like a rector set arms, dude. And Brett Farb is just like he's vintage Brett Farb that day. 47 to 7, I think. And then the, how bad did we, how bad did we lose? 47 to 3. I gave us too much credit. How bad did we lose to Wyoming?

Did we get boat raised? No, it was like 20 to 3. Okay, okay. But that game felt terrible. It felt bad. There was no air. There was no air. At least there's air in Detroit.

As a fan, just to gas you guys up, you were on the field for the Miami game, 48 nothing. Oh, yeah. And that popped in my head. Orange Bowl. Okay, Orange Bowl. Last game at the Orange Bowl. Miami's pretty good.

Yeah, Miami's pretty good that year. The Rock does the coin toss. I'm standing up there like doing the coin toss, looking over at the Rock. I'm like, what's up, Rock? And I'm like, man, this place is ready to erupt. If we fuck up and we just kicked their ass, it was like 48 nothing. Beat the brakes off of that. Now, the other one for me was, it was the Ravens.

I think it was Tori Smith's coming out party. 2011. I don't remember what the score of that game was. Looked that one up for me. It was me and the blind side. I was working the blind side all game. The guy in the movie. I was working the guy in the movie. 37 to 7. That wasn't that bad. I got one that was bad. This was, uh, this is somewhat topical. Thursday, November 26th. Thanksgiving. Eagles played at Detroit. Got the breaks blown off of us, 45 to 14. Brutal game. On Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving.

And then we got the weekend off because it was a Thursday game. My family was all Minnesota. I decided to stay in Detroit because I have a really good family friend. One of my really good buddies lives there. Sure you do. There were all Lions fans. I was miserable after the game. Went over to their families.

Thanksgiving got absolutely. No. His 14-year-old cousin wouldn't stop talking about how he was going to say the 14-year-old cousin was feeding you alcohol. I was feeding myself. Well, that's what you get because I was. Because remember, you had. I remember you had me at that New Year's Eve night where you took me to like a basically

an underage bar. You know this story? Yes, I love the story. New Year's Eve. Like he brings me and my wife and my mom to like this bar and it's like it's like 18 and literal like underage or bar. He lied to me. He's like, oh, it's going to be chill.

Yeah. He did it just. Yeah. It was not chill at all. It was not chill. Before we move on and I forget, bro, you have to check out chef geach. He's like a lion super fan. and he's a rapper and he does like an NFL week wrap up yeah every like every week

where he's rapping it like doing a freestyle and it's always so great and like he obviously remember the skills guy yes still skills be yeah he's from richmond yeah yeah the wrap up is great but they did it they do it for he does it for football and like emphasizes on the lions like when they're doing good or bad yeah and i think it that takes like immense talent i just realize imagine rapping this show No, I know. It'd be crazy. I mean, I could do it. I think you can. So, uh, next blowout. Oh, I was going to say, you could just in superimposed spots on this and then it would be a Jaguar not a Ben.

That's true. We could. That's true. We could. Now, last thing I want to say about the Jaguars, this is from Florio, Mike Florio. Uh, so not to say, like, he knows exactly what's happening, but I don't think he's going to go out on a limb unless there's a real noise about this, but like, last night, he said there's rumblings in Jacksonville about keeping Trent bulky. boy you had me in the first half the second part of the statement was because Balke and Belichick worked together in New York with the Jets and like maybe they're trying to lure

Belichick down to Jacksonville which honestly sorry Mac I like doesn't see we went through the the best openings that we anticipate happening next year and like that was towards the top you know it's it's kind of because there's

Dallas and New Orleans and what have you so and fuck Canales might Not last the year. You know, David Tepper's horny. He hadn't fired anybody in, in like 300 days. So, um, so the other blowout, this is a good blowout. It was a great blowout.

This was mile high. This was free money. And, and. Three more wins. Three more wins. But I'm talking about yesterday. Yeah. It was free money, bro.

Free. Free. Free. Money doesn't get freer than the money coming in on the damn Broncos. I made up my mind. If you will allow me to, I'm telling all. your best for the rest of the year. Can you tell the people what I am the last three weeks?

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. 13 and 2, I know. Yeah. 35 and 20 on the year. 13 and 2. Yeah. In real life. Listen, when I'm bad, I'm bad. And I've been bad some years. But this year,

Bet MGM's going to cut me off. I think they're going to cut me off. All right. Broncos, worst flight is going to is going, no, not worse flight. Anti-Bebel Conway. The anti-Bet. That was ugly as hell.

Can you imagine if the Broncos wore orange crush and the Falcons were in the Jeff George's? Like, that's... It would have been the best year. The newfangled bullshit we have in the NFL now, like, those are hideous uniforms. Let's start talking about this. A lot of times in the NFL, you draft a rookie who's old. And Bo Nix looks 31.

Okay. And he's been in college a long time. I can remember when he was at office. And then he's at Oregon and you're like, damn, that feels like a long time ago. And so when you draft an older player, a lot of times you think that player's closer to his ceiling, right? You get a polished player, but you're not sure that player's going to develop. But who's to say, Sean Payton, one of the greatest offensive coaches of all time. It's going to shine that puppy up.

Is not going to be able to get this guy going. And like the improvement he showed, that throw to a veil, over the middle of the field. I was watching all three-dimensional. I was the loudest noise I made all morning was watching that throw. Ridgulous. You can teach an old dog new tricks.

You can teach an old dog new tricks. And so I just think like from a macro standpoint, like who would have thought that the Broncos would be looking up week 11, not only like successful on the field, but also like maybe we have a franchise quarterback. And nobody would have thought that in the first couple games of the season. We were calling him check down merchant. we're saying I mean they played well against the bucks Chris I did they came to Tampa and they

played the bucks really well and they looked like that dude they were efficient they were moving the like they had like multiple 10 to 12 play drives in this game against the falcons falcons defense i don't really think much of you've been saying this for months they need a pass rusher badly but like the bucks have beaten the lines like they're decent team they've hung in there with a lot of really good teams the the broncos might be on to something here cowboy i hope you're a little torched on this. Oh, I'm, torque is shit. Because here's the thing. Fully tarred. Just about. It's so easy. And I think a lot of the reason we've kind of been looking to the Broncos, like, this is a fun story is because you weren't sure about the quarterback.

And nobody's sure about a quarterback year one. Okay. Like, I've been pretty sure about Jaden. And I'm pretty sure that all these quarterbacks are going to have nice careers. I don't know if they're all going to be like long time. But like, this is a good draft class. Okay. the freaking the defense on this team oh the front yeah bro DJ Jones fucking Cooper setting the edge like right off the bat bro like everybody knows Zach Allen by now if you watch ball benito they're just physical they're well coached they rush together they play the run they're all interested they're all glass eaters when I watched that Jets game earlier this season I was like God I hope this is real and God's team proved to me that they're

are real and we asked earlier what if they if this defense should have a yeah and who's Tanner Tanner was the nickname because we call the Broncos God's team I don't know what is that South Park thing no that's just that's just you yeah yeah everything it's their defense is God's D God's D God's D I mean wow I mean wow now nobody outside this podcast is going to get that but that's funny as hell to me but guess what the what If you want to maybe hit Bet MGM for a little bit more money, offensive player of the year. Yeah.

Rookie. I mean, offensive rookie. No, no, no, player of the year. Let him say it. Let him say it. Talk your back. Let's hear you, baby. Plus 500, value bet.

And, I mean, he's in second place. And Jaden Daniels is minus 750. Big gap. But if, you know, if Jaden Daniels hurt, he sits a few more games. and Bo Nix stays the course. His ribs are fucked up and he keeps looking just decent like he's looked the last couple weeks and all of a sudden

this race is wide open because they're not going to give it to Caleb. No. Absolutely not. And Bo Nix, we started the year being like, wow, look how well set up the commanders are. Or the commanders,

I don't think we were thinking about the fact that the Broncos could really have a franchise quarterback. Oh, I was. They're pretty well set up. That's why I made that back. Good on you. You were on it. You were on that. And then you were also on the Dallas Cowboys thing, which I need to remind you. I'm sorry about that. I don't want to keep talking about it. But we were all stone on the back porch of our Buffalo Airbnb. Shout out the Airbnb. And it's one in the morning. I'm like, let's just look at some bets. And Nate start rattling off all his long odd bets. And we're like, shut off. And then he gets to the Broncos. And he gets the Cowboys. And he's like, yo. He's like, this bet is going to hit. He goes. What are the chances that Cowboys lose all their games at home?

And we were like, bro, not happening. Like, I don't care how it's not happening. The odds were what? Like, plus 300,000. And what were you going to bet? Like, for real, I don't know why I just didn't put like a dollar or $10 on it. Bro, you could have. Bro, I'm so sorry.

Now, not to say you've got to listen to everything we say, but like, we were like no chance. And they still might not win a game at home. But I'll just say this about the damn, the damn Falcons, because I've taken a little shit from Falcons fans on this show. I took shit for you guys last year about Desmond Ritter because I said Desmond Ritter wasn't the guy. You guys gave me shit. This year, you gave me shit because I picked the bucks to win the division. And they still could, which is a damn shame for y'all because they lost, you know, most of their offense when the receivers went. They should still win the division.

Look at their record. down the stretch and look what the fumbling ass falcons have been doing and listen my job is to tell the truth i don't have a damn bias i got nothing against kirk i love kirk i got nothing against rheim morris i love rheim morris i love i love a lot of the players on that team i hate that you guys have to deal with some of the things you've had to deal with i mean i apologize about 28 to 3 like 100 times i felt bad for you and i owe you like my entire life okay but this team is not that good they're not that good and if you can't touch the quarterback

and that's what we said coming to this game Bonnix is not going to get touched the only guy who sacked him was Mike McGlinchie Mike McGlinchie's back okay Falcons pass rush they're following COVID protocol it's 2024

they don't even get close seriously it's not great and you can't win like that you can't win like that and so I worry about this team down the stretch yes they could win the division yes they get in the playoffs but what are the chances

of the Falcons win a Super Bowl? Nothing. They're not winning a Super Bowl. So it's good you pick Mike Penix because I think at some point and he got some throws yesterday at some point you're going to turn the page on this and on this and maybe next year

Kirk plays and he plays well and you add some defensive pieces. Listen, you lost your draft pick, right? And then you go out and get Matt Jude on who I told you like Patriots won that damn trade. Okay? It's just if you can't rush the passer and I'm not boiling it all down to that,

but that would make a big difference. It really would. Right now the Falcons are six and five, the Bucks behind him at four and six. Bucks had a by week, but they play the Giants in week 12, Carolina week 13, and the Raiders in week 14.

Atlanta has a buy week, and then they play the Chargers and the Vikings. And listen, I'm trying to stay out of the chat, and what's up, Luis Enrique, thanks for the comment. Again, I remember you from last week. verse would have done more for this team sure verse would have done more from this team but i still don't think you're there so i i do like grabbing a quarterback that could be the guy in five years whenever you

can he stepped in at the end of this he had a couple balls i like michael panics had a couple great throws if this starts getting shaky do you think rahim's job is no no hell no okay he's got a little bit of time okay he's got two years no listen and and and i hope y'all turn it around but the window is not open right now. Okay. And so that's what's weird about the Kirk thing is like, you got this aging quarterback. And I guess you got to sell tickets,

you know, and you got to be competitive, but like teams are playing the game, right? This team, had they not drafted pennics, say you get a fucking stud in the first round. And who's to say it would have been verse? You know, that's assuming you got the right thought in your head,

which we know when we talk about quarterbacks, people don't even know half the time. Okay. But the point is you could add two, good defensive line to this team. I don't think it makes a big difference. I just don't think they're that competitive. So this race is going to be interesting. Let me ask you this question, Bo. And I think I know the answer. If you're hosting a wildcard game and it's the Falcons of the Bucks coming in town, who scares you more? Bucks. The Bucks with Mike Evans, a little bit healthier. I would agree with you.

I think Mike will be back by then. I think so too. Hopefully. Look at the Falcons wins. Okay. And I hate doing this because it's hard to win the NFL, but like it feels like eons ago they beat the Eagles. By a point. By a point. And the Eagles were terrible. In a game that they shouldn't lost. Yeah. Yeah. Sequin catches the ball, all that shit. But all that considered, I just don't think any of their wins are like high quality wins, including the Bucks wins, because I don't think the Bucks are that good right now. Like, you know what I mean? They might win the division, but so I look at, They lost the Steelers 1810. They beat the Eagles.

They lost the Chiefs. They beat the Saints. They've been running rough shot through the NFC South. Okay. But they got boat raced by the Seahawks, and now they got boat raced by the damn Broncos. Those are two totally different built teams from other divisions. And it just, you don't look competitive.

And they lost the Saints the week before the Broncos with Rizzi. So anyways. I don't hate, I do not hate the Falcons at all. I'm just trying to tell you all the truth. This is what I think. The problem with the Falcons is, dude, they got behind against the Broncos. They're not built at all to come from behind. If they can get their run game rolling early and get up, then they'll be in decent shape.

Yeah. Like, they're just not at all. What was that, 213 at halftime? It's hard to get off the field when you can't rush the pass. Right. Hard to get off the building. I think that was the biggest issue in this game. And then the Broncos were very efficient offensive.

They were good. And then I was reading some of the headlines. And Rahe Morris was even talking about that run play where the entire Broncos offense. It felt like came. picked up Giovante. He scrummed them. Yeah, exactly. Into the end zone. It's like they just had way more juice. That was that way. High Stadium was kind of popping. I forgot about that. I kind of want to make that the Bevel Conway where they

literally guys little feet are like from off the ground and they're just taking your soul. That's what he said. He was off the ground. Quinn Miners, Ben Powers were pushing that pile. Awesome. He said my feet came off the ground and I was still moving. I said it, I said it must be Quinn. It was a collective effort. I felt like everybody played well on both sides of the ball. You think this type, this during the back special teams too, back half of the season, having to play in Denver and playing there that air, you think that that's. Oh, for sure. When it gets dry there. Yeah. I remember when Logan Ryan picked off a ball when I played for the pads, right at like 90 yards. And you know me. I'm going to let the DBs do the whole celebrate end zone thing.

But I still ran a while. And I got to tell you, we had to go right back out of the day. That's the most gas I've ever been in my life from a wind standpoint. Like when it gets cold and dry up there, and I think they play the brand of football where it works. Yep.

So, I mean, like, they really have it down. They really have it down. Three more wins, baby. And how about people laughing at Sean Payton? And how about people laughing at Russell Wilson? Here's the thing about the NFL. Fits matter. Context matters.

We say it all the time. Both those guys are thriving now last year. They both ended up great. They both ended up great. They both remarried and it's good. Look at that. Hey, it worked out from time. There it is, you know.

Beautiful. All right. So let's, NFC. West. Got a couple, couple big games. The Seahawks, 49ers, a great battle. The 49ers still having woes in the red zone. Make room. Make room.

The NFC West is just a fucking. They're not going to be cooked. It's a lot like the year. where we slid in. I referenced where Charlie Whitehurst beat us. That was a seven-win team got in the playoffs, I think, that year. I think it was seven and nine Seahawks. That's what, it's the same thing in the NFC West this week or this year.

If the Cardinals don't pull away with it, it's going to be like anything, anything will do. 49ers without Bosa cooked. So that's what I noticed at the end of the game, right? I asked this question earlier. I said, do the nineers scare you in? post is dinged and he's on the sideline. Not at all. You know, it looked like guys are running in place.

The team speed is just not the same as it was in the past. Like when they had Greenlaw and they had Wagner back there and they had, and Floyd's a good rusher and everything. Like when they had, they were four deep upfront because they've lost some tackles and the whole thing. But like, I just felt like, and hats off to Gino,

his old ass making it work. His seventh fourth quarter or seventh game winning drive since 20, That guy's got like some hero tendencies. You know what I mean? He really does for a guy that like they wrote off for a long time famously. But like he really does in some clutch moments. And then sometimes he'll look like just what are we doing? But yesterday was one of those moments at the end of the game.

And I want to shout out. I'm going to give out two SDL memorials today. Special occasion. One, I'm giving in to Olu Oluw, what? Olu with Timi. Who was at Virginia. and transferred to Michigan. I forgot it was him.

Multi-year starter in Charlottesville and then went to Michigan. And just, you know, left us in the dust. But now on the heels of a weird retirement from Connor Williams, I hope he's okay, seriously. I mean, because when a guy retires in the middle of the season, like something's going on, you know. But, yeah, Olu played really well. Perfect, pass rush, win rate.

And then they get Abe Lucas back who played pretty well. They rotated him in. Good matchup on Bosa in general. because he's pretty damn he's a stout guy like he's a true right tackle you know what I mean um but you know 2 30 to go one time out gino's legs it's just uh you know for a team the lost five of six coming in like quiet as kept like they're often they're over in Canada so like when they're not the LOB people don't pay attention and you know speaking of not paying attention I feel bad for all the teams that played during the Mahomes Allen game because it's like they

might as well played in a hangar this game you're looking up every hour being like oh sea hawks are in it and um just real scrappy for them to get to five and five they get a huge matchup with arizona at home they get arizona twice in three weeks they could flip the whole thing not saying they will but if you're the seahawks and you're mike macdonald you're going to be like dude look what we can do the next three weeks of the season we could we could flip the whole division on its head and so you got at new york you got green bay you got minnesota You got Chicago, you get the Rams. The question is, do I get my win total?

I have the over seven and a half. What do you think? They're at, what, five now. So they got to, they got to beat. Three more win? They got to beat Danny DeVito. Three more win for you, too. We're both sitting at the same thing.

They got to beat Chicago, and they got it, they got to split with Arizona. Like, because if you don't split with Arizona, you might be in trouble. So. I think it's going to be really close, man. It's going to be one of those. Also, I'd like to interrupt real quick. I want to give out my worst flight award. My sister, Grace, was in town in Tampa this weekend for my birthday.

And I was a little distracted. So she is about to catch her flight back home to Minnesota. And that is the worst flight for me. Grace Allen leaving Tampa Bay to go back down to Minnesota. That's brutal. Have a good fight, Grace. This time of year. Shout out to Grace.

Have a great fright. We love you. We love you. Who is the whole reason. Oh, she's leaving. That's her? She's later. right now. Hey, Grace, thanks for making me

go to that underage bar back in the day. Hey, Grace, you there? He says, thanks for making him go to that underage bar for New Year's Eve. You got a sweet family, dude. Just good people. Just good people to Allen's. Okay, so here we go.

The last one in the NFC West, the Rams gutsy win. I mean, as guts he was beating the Patriots can be. I mean, there were moments in this game, Matt, right, where it was like a little close. We put Matt on this game. What'd you think? I think if you're a Patriots fan, you should be happy. Drake May looks really good.

He just doesn't have the weapons around them. He's been able to move the ball. The problem for the pats was they just had to settle for field goals so they couldn't keep up. They just need to keep adding pieces. In terms of the Rams, like we were just talking about the NFC West. We didn't really mention the Rams. They could win it. They're five and five, and they have Puka back.

They have cup back. And yesterday in the second and third quarter, they exploded for 28 points. Their passing attack is dangerous. and your boy, Braden Fiske made the play. How about that? I did see him get some buckets and good for him because I, you know, like somebody, he made some plays a couple weeks ago and they were like, it's only the whoever they were playing.

I think it was maybe Seahawks or something. I don't know. But that guy has really stood out and we talk a lot about verse, but for a de-tackle to have as many buckets as he's had and be in there, I know, Bo you got to love it, Bo. Yeah, white det tackle. I mean, dude, he's actually super athletic. I remember watching his, you know, his college tape out of FSC,

you. He's actually a really good locker room guy also, like really knows the playbook, a little stiff in the hips, but he's actually really athletic. He had a good, he had a really good performance. And then also on the other side of the ball real quick, Patriots fans got to be happy about getting Christian Barmore back. That's huge. He had a little bit of a health scare. I don't want to get the specifics of it.

I think it was blood clots or something like that, but it's first game back. That sounds right. He's a dynamic rusher out of Bam, a younger player, I think, third or fourth year. So I'm happy to see him back up there and doing one. And I'm also happy. I'll say it every week. I'm happy for Jarab Mayo because his team looks like they haven't quit. They're far from that.

They've got a franchise quarterback, hopefully. And, you know, he called him soft. He wanted to put his foot in his mouth over that thing. But he ends up being able to come out of that thing and the team's better. And so, like, sometimes it's sloppy. Sometimes you don't say the right things. And, you know, you've got to have hard conversations. But good for the Patriots for just showing fight.

I mean, they continue to fight. They're going to have a chance to hit their win total, which to me, I hate to oversimplify things. But when you're talking about, like, I've heard some fans of the Patriots be like, oh, Mayo's terrible. We've got to run them out of the building. I'm like, all right, well, that's starting to sound a little. Anyways, you're getting to the point now where it's like you're kind of, you were expected to win four and a half games. You're three and eight. The team showed promise at different times.

And the quarterback, most importantly, you went to the quarterback and people, People like me doubted that decision because I thought he'd get killed and he almost got killed the first day. I'll never forget, 16 seconds is on the ground out of the half against the Texans. De Niel Hunter almost killed him. Who would have? You know, once he almost got killed, I think he was okay and he has not gotten killed since. Who would have thunk it? What?

Drake May has the same amount of wins as Aaron Rogers this year. Wild. Who would have thunk it? Wild. Wild. Nuts. Wild. Okay.

All right. So that's the NFC West for you. I just want to echo what Matt said. Like when you look at the offenses in the NFC West, you know, Arizona is there like a sports car for sure. But the Rams have got a little of that sports car to him as well with those guys outside. I mean, I love Puka. Chris, that touchdown catch, like, remember when we interviewed him for the Super Bowl last year? Just how like charismatic and cool.

He's like one of those young guys. Listen, I'm an old hat hater. Like this is about some hate. But those young players, sometimes you're, in the locker room with him. You look at him like, God damn. There's a cloud outside you could yell at. Like I, like some of the young players are brutal. I remember when we interviewed him, I was like, this guy is so cool.

Such a good pro for a young player, like, smart, great vibes. He had that fucking great touchdown catch where he laid out for it. Like he's been banged up this year. He left for a little bit, came back. Like, I want to give him some love because like, dude, I love that guy. He's a great player. I think he plays a game the right way. He had 123 yards touchdown. Like, I think he's a fucking. I feel like he's what happens if Danny Amendola was six foot, whatever.

Yeah. And that's a huge compliment because I think Danny's one of the toughest players I ever play with. Danny, Danny dislocated, I don't even know how you do this, but his sternum in like a meaningless Rams game. And they said it was only like a car accident injury usually. And I'll never forget him like wanting to fight the trainers because they wouldn't let him go back in the game. It was insane. And you know who honestly reminds me of Amandola a little bit?

I said this is Shakir. Yeah. Shakir reminds me, like real talk reminds me of Dola a little bit. Yeah. All right. So the Rams, you got to watch out for them. The Hawks,

look out for the Hawks. Hawk Tua. All right. So, uh, how's that podcast going? Talk Tua. It's popular.

She revealed her boyfriend recently. It was, it's pretty exciting stuff. That was poop. New boyfriend job for hot. Yeah. A little dating app. Pookie. Like, talk about marketing facts. Like, that chick's kind of all over. I'm not immune to the

trappings of pop culture. I mean, I see things from time to time. The best thing about the whole situation is that like she wasn't even the one getting interviewed. And I just, and she just took it to a whole new level. Shout out to her. Shout out to her. Yeah. Yeah. How about that night? She could have easily been like, yeah, I'm not interested in doing this interview. Her whole life's changed. Would it changed. Yep. It's unbelievable. Now, I'm not saying her life wasn't good before. Right. But maybe it's better. Okay. Godmuster.

Some people who might have better lives, who might have had better lives in week one than week now, or vice versa, a little unproven quarterback roundup, starting with Sam Donald. You know, there are three quarterbacks we're going to hit on that, their quarterback play. We want to dive in. Well, Nolan, what did you think?

Because you took the closest look at this game. Yeah, he was great. I mean, there were multiple wow plays, in the table, a couple of third and sixes early on where he got out of the pocket, hits him throws on the run. But yeah, I thought for him, you know, coming up the last two weeks, throwing five picks,

you wanted to see him kind of settle back in, especially against a good defense too. And the play extension stuff, late in the down, second reaction stuff, on the run. You can win a playoff game with how well he played yesterday. And if he can stay at that consistent level, they're going to need him to do that with the wild card.

like we talked about the falcons everybody wants to play them around one so you get the five seed you know depending upon how the rest of the season goes you know he he really played well he looked confident um and the accuracy from from multiple platforms i like what you said earlier where you were like there were moments where you said i can win with this guy and then there were moments in the game where he said i can win because of this guy yep and that's the whole like that to me is the conversation we should always have about quarterbacks is like yeah can you win with them great but like when you got a guy you can just win with you're going to have games where you know the bottom falls out but if you got a guy that can can show you from time to time that he can he can got to put the

team on his back i'm not saying that's what he did yesterday but where you make throws that are like that's a plus throw not just to take what the defense gives you or not doing what the coach should do that's what you want to see from him yep you know you want to see him avoid those mistakes that's kind of plagued him lately but he got away with earlier in the season so So, yep, good win for me. Yeah, I'd like to interrupt you guys real quick. You know, we're doing the mentions throughout the course of the show. Absolutely love this header right here for Minnesota, Tennessee.

That's actually my drip king of the week. Tim Matt. Oh, that guy. What a guy. What a guy. He was proud Vikings fan. You know, I grew up in Minnesota. Spent a lot of time around fans exactly like this.

A lot of things I love about this, Tim. The mustache, though, is the star of the show. That's unbelievable. Rip quick. Yeah. Look at that dust. And then the angle that don't... The angle's perfect, bro.

He does not give a fuck. I want to get to the level of not giving a fuck of that guy. You know what I mean? Yeah. Tim Matfield. Shout out. Come on the pod sometime, brother. Because you're drip king of the week.

Skull vikes. He's got a little stain on the front of that jersey. You know, he's worn it a couple times. He's also got like a very like, like he looks to be an older gentleman, maybe like 45. But like his Twitter feed is actually like pretty gentle. Yeah. He's on top. of it he's well adjusted he took a screenshot and posted it was impressive dude when my dad was 45 like

this guy he would have never been able to do that so that guy's 45 that's a joke okay he's 33 he just turned 33 last thursday i think uh killer mustache i can relate hey uh did anybody see that eagles collie i got to send you this right now because i want to show this at some point during the show but there's an eagles fan who went viral this weekend. I got it on my Instagram story. I'm going to send it to you, Tanner, because I just want to see it. Don't allow full access. I don't need full access.

Where is it? Did you guys delete it? You guys deleted it from my damn story? Is micromanaging my stories? What are you talking about? There was an Eagles fan that I put on my other areas. There he is. From nine hours ago. Okay? This is great. Okay. I'm going to send this. How do I send this? I'm going to send this to you

read. Yep. Okay. And I want to show this later in the show. There's two superstars in Philly right now, in my opinion, from a fan standpoint. And this is a star is born moment. There's obviously the guy who sticks a fork in him. I think by now everybody's seen that guy. Shout out to that dude. Stick a fork. I like,

shh. Done. Stick a fork in him. Forking him, done. Like, he's awesome. You know, like, and he makes it like an athletic move too. They're all different the way he sticks to fork in these teams. If you don't know what I'm talking about, Google this guy. And then there's this guy.

I don't know how quickly we can get him up on the show, but I just really wanted to feature this. He's about to pop up. And you're right. It did go viral the other night. Star is born. This guy is a star. Somebody said he's probably a fanager in Philly. WIP call in.

What about this is the best thing I've ever seen. It's incredible. Nah, I don't want to overhype it. Okay. So the next thing we got is we're going to talk about. Caleb Williams. Caleb Boards, Anthony Richardson. Okay.

The Bears. First thing I'll say is, as a fan, what a joy it is when everything you need to have happened for a total to hit the right way happened. Like, I had the under 41, and I had Green Bay parlayed with like multiple things, money line. And so at some point, you guys all know the deal when you're on total in a team, like, it just becomes complicated. And it was. I needed multiple two-point conversions to be missed. I needed obviously that field goal to be missed. And I've never been so damn excited, not all this season,

to see that kick block. So just post-mortem on this thing for the Bears. Matt Eberfluse and some of these stats that I'm reading might be wrong because they look fake. Two and 13 against the NFC North. Is that like a clickbait? Am I getting click-baited? Am I getting like...

We'll double check as we watch this equals fan. Is that fake news? All right, go ahead. What are you, Marcus Hayes? We got a tale of two fans here. I love how this guy just perfectly encapsulates Eagles fans. Then you got good old, wholesome Tim Matfield, Skull vikes. Totally.

He's not up there raging like this guy. It's just perfect. When you understand the dichotomy of those two fans, you understand what happened in the NFC championship game. Exactly. And why those poor people were like. bro we're so nice what happened like what was wrong with why are they trying to beat us up at the link for wearing viking jerseys that's so crazy that guy was terrific down to the accent down to dropping margus hayes's name like it's just having a light beer asshole he sounds like all my dad's friends

that went to villanova and so um listen we're talking about the bears two and 13 against the nfc north if that's real that's that's abhorrent for matt eber flus and um Five and 17 and one score games. Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but I just, at some point here, it's going to be him, right? And we talked about Ben Johnson. I know some Lions fans don't want to hear that. And I know that some people might think, why would he want to go to Chicago? I'll tell you why he wanted to go to Chicago because Caleb Williams is going to be all right.

He really is. I believe that. He's going to be fine. I'm not saying he's the, again, I told you this a long time ago. He's not what you thought he might be. And maybe he might be eventually, but he's not. going to be there like that okay especially not on this team uh but i think he's going to be okay and honestly i thought thomas brown did a really nice job coming in cold and just taking the profit all

day right like from what i saw in this game Caleb did the things you asked him to do he created with his legs some and honestly didn't get killed and that's half the battle right like get the damn ball out take the check down he got the ball out much quicker was point four seconds faster than his season average and he used his leg 70 yards rushing on the day he actually escaped the pocket and and was that much more of a threat on the ground he can some of the elements i mean let's not get carried away he's never going to be like my homes is my homes okay but the thing people saw with the mahomes thing is like the off platform stuff the wow throws i don't think he's a deep ball guy and he's got a strong arm but i don't think he's like an accurate deep ball thrower like and not everybody is

and maybe he works on that. But what he does is he can throw a really, he can throw a piss missile to the intermediate level of defense. And like he can put it right on people in the middle of field. And he can get off platform and you can move the pocket with him. So, and I think honestly, I'll say this every week till I'm blue in the face.

So you don't mischaracterize me as some hater of the kid. The kid has played like a man. Okay? And I mean this. Like he has rolled with the punches. He's dealt with people on a kid. his team walking off the field you know antics tantrums he's he's dealt with fans questioning him you know he dealt with he's got a purse he cried after the game like i haven't seen anything

like what everybody insinuated he's weak-minded or whatever like not that having a purse makes you weak-minded my wife's pretty fucking tough she got a lot of purses all right i'm running out of purses to buy for anniversaries and birthdays but the point is is like Caleb williams has conducted himself like a pro in the NFL so far and taking a lot of hits and supposedly jay glazer said he stood up in front of the team and apologized for for why shame waldron got fired his hand in it now i don't know if that's a fake tweet again i might be getting erin rogers here on the gerg golf that but like you never know now but i saw that in passing and i was like damn you know what this guy is the furthest furthest thing from what people said he was and i also think he's going to be fine and and so we just got to be

patient. Bears fans got to be patient. You've been patient a long time. What's another year going to do? All this hype on him. Got a couple mentions. Sorry, go ahead. Well, no, no, no. He loves the mentions. I know my fucking role. I'm just pushing mentions, boys. Come on. I got to come on.

I mean, you were talking about Caleb Williams there a lot, Chris. I think I saw someone in the chat say like this law loss wasn't on Iberfluous. The end of the game that you mentioned this earlier, I didn't see what McCaffey said about it. but the fact that that kick got blocked

for everyone that doesn't know the farther you are away you know kicking a field goal it's going to have the ball coming off a kicker's leg is going to have a lower trajectory i want to know i want to be a fly on the wall as a specialist because you know they just chit-chat about fucking punting and kicking all day but you had one time out i think there's 20 seconds or something like that left in the game you could have run just a dive solid a duo play tell you're running back to cover up that ball with both arms you know like why why didn't they run one more play try to get three four more yards closer

maybe that ball game goes completely differently so that's one thing that field goal real fast wild to me that field goal was 46 yards that was blocked Santos is 71 of 71 inside 40 yards with the bears and so it just lends to the fact that maybe this team is cursed a little bit the franchise a little bit seriously think about the losses the the commander and then the division with the Packers, new ways to lose every week. Right. Chicago Sports Seriously. Chicago Sports is a

Twitter handle and they put a mashup of Tressman in 2013 after they see settle for a 47-yard field goal on second down and overtime. Obviously they missed. In the post-game press they're talking about this very thing and then

2019 Matt Nagy, same thing and then 2024 Iber Fluse. It's like time is a flat circle in Chicago. And the only thing that's different is, I promise you, you have a, you have a young quarterback. I'm not saying, again, I'm not saying he's played great, but he ain't one of these guys you had in the past. And I was a Fields fan. And I still think there's room for Fields to improve and maybe it's in Pittsburgh. But the point is, this was never going to be easy. And if you thought it was going to be easy, you were doing the,

oh, the Mike Tyson, Jake Paul fight is going to be awesome. Like, you just, you're just, you're just easy to dupe. And so, and I'm not. And I thought this would be a process and it is. And that's okay. But you got to make the change at some point because Matt, as good as he's been defensively as a coach, like your job is the coach the entire team. And they have to do a better job with the next hire. And so you have to go out and get an offensive head coach. You knew you had to do it. And that's another thing. People wanted Harbaugh. Who knows if you'd have hired the right coordinator. Right. You know what I'm saying? And maybe Harbaugh would have brought Greg Roman to town and, you know, the run game and the whole thing.

But like, I think maybe waiting a year for Ben Johnson might be even better. Bo, you, he's going to directly. It's also, my best flight, everybody.

Big mention guy today. Packers, short flight on a last minute block field goal for, and come on against a division opponent that you hate. Mm-hmm. That you've just about owned. And a short flight. And for real flight.

And for the best one. Up and down. But you spend most of the flight in Dane time zone. You spend most of the flight in Dane. because, you know, the dangerous things happen on takeoff and landing, so like short flights kind of suck, but they're also great. But look, depending on the coach you have and how good that team is, you might get to see you Wednesday, and they might get to stay in Chicago since it's so close. Yeah, you're right. And go party there.

See you Wednesday. See you Wednesday. Yeah. Last unproven quarterback. We want to hit Anthony Richardson. What did you see? I want to give him the game ball. That's good.

Yeah. Hey, was so, when I turned on tape this morning, because that game got lost in the shuffle. I was so happy for this kid. I mean, and for the people say, you know, see, you never should have benched him. Really? Well, he looks a lot better now.

Well, doesn't he? Well, not just well rested. Yeah. Hey, I can tell my kids to go a couple plays off there. I can tell my kids so I'm blue in the face. Hey, stop doing that or I'll take the iPad away. But unless you take the iPad away, they're going to act the same. They're going to do the same shit.

You got to take the iPad away. Got to do it. And that's why I'll take some shit away. And that's what happened. You can tell a player, oh, you got to stop making this mistake. You got to say, but until you really make them feel

the repercussions of, and supposedly, who said this? It wasn't just about football. What did you say, Matt? There was some reporting that there was concerns about Anthony Richardson's level of preparation. Okay, so that's one thing that's like,

hey, sit your ass down and learn to prepare. I think a lot of his mechanics, I still think it could be, but also like maybe they fixed something over two weeks. You know, and maybe the fact they played so shitty this is my conspiracy theory is they spent so much damn time trying to fix Anthony that they weren't paying attention

to the game plan or something because I got to tell you this dude if he was a rookie and you looked at this game you'd be like man he might be the guy like now they set the table for him they started the game with QB run they ran the ball a bunch early

but some of the throws that this guy made like with people in his face the quick release 22 years old, May 22nd is his birthday. He doesn't turn 23 until May 22nd. You got the whole thing ahead of you, and if it was enough to sit him down for two weeks, great. Okay, I was really happy to see him play well.

Like, there's so many plays. A.D. Mitchell's a hell of a young player. But, like, they were getting after sauce on the crossers. You give him the ball with two minutes to go in the game, you know, with the game on the line. He made quick work of these guys. I mean, that third and four with the game on the line going, you know, no, sorry, not third and four. I'm jumping around here.

But the ball to Mo Ali Cox on the boot was like a wow. I mean, there were a few throws. To get a touchdown on a slant, nothing spectacular. Like there was actually an angle route more. He, you know, it was downs. He pressed that defender. But like my point is those are the easy things. I wanted to see him do.

I saw him hit his speed out. I almost jumped out of my chair. I was like, oh my God, it's a new guy. So I'm really excited about this dude. The throat appears like a lot of guys are missing that layup. And we see great quarterbacks. So easy. So, you know, the one to Pittman early in the game,

I wish I had all 22 if the NFL wasn't on my ass about that thing. I would show you the ball that went behind 44's ear to Pittman early in the game. It's like it's a missile. You can hear it. Okay? He he the crosser to Mitchell He's got the left tackle in his lap He everything he did yesterday

Turned to gold He really had one of those days He came out and I feel like Sorry to interrupt you there 20 for 30 also game ball for him from you But like what I respect is I was very critical Of him earlier And basically a lot of that

Was due to the fact of like him subbing himself out I really don't like that I think a lot of his teammates were vocal about that I remember seeing a couple of his alignment talk about it. Once your old linemen starts saying things like that about the quarterback, it's not a good sign. But I feel like Anthony Richardson came out. He was physical, man. He made that completed pass on third down.

Defender was like tackling him as he was going down. It looked like fucking Ben Rathlisberger, you know. He trucked a dude on the goal line. Like I feel like he was trying to make a statement, play super hard, and like almost went over his own team, which I, I mean, I respect. Like he came out after sitting down basically losing his starting job as a quarterback. do a 40 year old Joe Flacco and came out and played his ass off beat a very shitty New York jet scene well they are shitty and certainly that that factors in but the rush was getting there like he was he was under siege at different times and you made the point like when he ran over a dude

early in the game to get in the end zone or he scampered in and like the whole team mugged him like you can tell and so that's what truth is always somewhere in between you know you hear guys are like no they're not that upset about it like they're just like what the fuck and then if you sit for a couple weeks, they're like, they want to win ball games, you know? And I had somebody in here talking about, oh, listen, you know, they started him only because Flacco's suck,

not the, well, two things can be true at once, bro. Like, why does he look like a totally different player? You know, like sometimes, and I said this on inside the NFL, was like, when I was a second year player, Spags was my D-Corpsator. And as a D-Limon,

you can rotate. But I was a high pick, and I wasn't playing great. and I was transitioning from 3-4 to 4-3 and kind of like swimming a little bit like trying to figure out how to do my job and spags came up to me as like listen you're not going to start for us um you know we're starting like victor adianju or something and and I didn't I took it personal um and I don't know that I worked any harder but I think it gave me some space to where it's like from a mentality standpoint you have hit rock bottom you know for some people rock bottom you know for some people rock bottom is like, I mean, rock bottom in real life is, you know, it's totally different thing. But rock bottom for football players, like the feeling I had when I got benched. And honestly, I don't, I don't know that I knew what I needed at the time, but I need a little bit of, when you're a high pick, and I can't imagine what it's like to be a quarterback, the whole organization wants you to save them. And, you know, like, you're trying to do too much all the damn

time. You're just trying to be like, you're trying to live up to the expectation immediately. And I I think sometimes when you can just sit down and get some space and say, okay, the pressure's not on me for two weeks or six weeks or whatever, you know, like you can kind of reset. And I think that's what, I don't want to say that that's what happened for sure. We'll see next week. But I saw a different Anthony Richardson. If you've watched him play this year, tell me another game he played that well. If you haven't, just don't say anything.

But if you've watched Anthony Richardson, there was something different about him. And I hope it holds. I really do. Because it worked for me getting fucking benched the next four years. I was making money balling. This kid hopefully can turn around his whole. It's a young career, dude. He's a rookie, essentially.

Give him a chance. I like the benching. I like the way he played even better. You can tell how locked in he was on that final drive when it cut to him on the TV. He was ready to go. And he was nine of 12 with two touchdowns or sorry, nine of 12 on attempts of 10 or more air yards for a career high, at 185, including two of two for 56 yards on the game-winning drive.

No question. And shout out to him. The only leg on my patent bet that I had this week was him to any time touchdowns, wrestling touchdowns. And he single-handedly got me into money because his particular leg was like plus 1,600. Plus 1,600? Yeah.

Score 2.2. No way. Why don't you tell me about it? that one i might take it that one golly dude i think what nates not on you is he probably missed a bunch of two tchid bets no like in the patent i picked three and it was like 22 bucks but i still made three x my bet like on him just scoring those two touchdowns on just one leg can i say one more thing about this game before we move on do it quidipay great game lot two great game like hey game ender early sack too where they you know they both had great rushes where lot to hooks

I mean, great technique. Hook in that he does things with technique. And he hasn't had like a splashy year. But that's fine. He's going to develop really nice as a pro. He's a great chop club guy, really good with his hands, hooked under Fashanu's arm and just got it, like just got the corner.

And the same thing would pay with power now. And to end the game, like you said, three man rush. That feels better than anything, dude. Like three man rush, walk off. And the last thing I'll say is that was the funniest playoff. Sunday. Rogers throwing the ball backwards. And it's not just because

Rogers is like, ha-ha, we're all just like constantly piling all Rogers. But that shit looks so bad, dude. I don't care. Who did it? If that was like, Will Levis, we'd be doing... Yeah, exactly. Football guys don't like Aaron Rogers this year. Everything going bad.

The guys are they supposed to. Rebuked him. Rebuked. We rebuke you. Yeah. He's been rebuked. That's hilarious. I don't even know what that word really means. I know people do it to the devil. Yeah.

And there you go. Okay. Fly over games. You're taking a week ago with the, were you just on a run about the Jets? That's just Hall of Fame stuff. Bro, it's true.

And it's just like, you POS? It's just, it's just that. Because he is, bro. He is. Any quarterback that does that to one of your guys in the locker room,

you're a POS. Like, this plain and simple. I don't like that. Don't call. call me out. Like you don't, you don't have to call me out. I got him going again. Man, but it's just funny watching them lose and just like the Jets. The Jets just look silly. And that whole thing's getting blown up at the end of the year. Like, is he going to be back

there? Dude, I told you, I said this last week. If I was a coach and they were like, we want you to coach the Jets, $100 million. I'd be like, is that guy going? And that's not to say he hadn't had like the most incredible career ever, dude. Like, he was amazing. I've, had so much fun watching him play. But sometimes it just doesn't make sense to like hang on as an organization and say like, oh yeah, we're going to try this one more time. Like no, you draft a quarterback and you go on. And he plays in, plays in San Francisco or something when they don't pay Purdy. I'm just joking. But it's just going to be funny just to see what I would pay per. I like Purdy. Oh, yeah. Okay. I think Purdy is a dog. Okay. You know, it's trying to think,

here's a better question. Where does it go? Miami? In Miami? But to a man's playing pretty well. That's the next thing I want to say. He is. We're talking about flyover games. I love that graphic. That's good stuff, boys.

Good shit. Shout out, Tanner. Hey, come on. Hey. But Tanner. We love that. But I didn't really fly over the dolphins game because I had the under and curiously, it went way over, dude.

That game was a dead under. And then like the dolphins are in four minute mode. and they are bullies, dude. When they play a bad team, they score 35, but bro, they, they took a shot because damn Raiders dropped the coverage. I'm like, what are we doing? But the point I wanted to make was my STL Memorial goes to Tuat, Tunga Viloa. That guy was, who is that guy off the spot?

Even you, too, a fan's kid, I'm going to call, like I see it when I see it. That man was playing well yesterday. Hey, you know what they said? And you know what he, he's moving. The last couple of people. he's moving a lot in the pocket. Don't want to make light of head situations, but you know you watch movies and stuff and sometimes someone has a head injury and then you start gaining things in life.

Like not powers. Are you trying to rookie of the year? Not not not powers, but maybe some bad habits or old habits that you couldn't find a way to get out of. An ayahuasca trip he went on. Hey, hey, it might have been. Did you just try to rookie that's good. Hey, hey, you know what people say knock some sense into somebody?

He might have got some six knocked him to him. I don't want to say that. Hey. You hear Matt, Hey, the, the Finns are back, though. We're back. I don't know about all that. All right.

I'm going to move on. That was a ball game until the fourth quarter. That was a ball game until the fourth quarter. I'm going to get my STL Memorial out for this game, too, Chris. Good call with two. I'm going to go with the other team. Brock Bowers, have an unbelievable race. rookie year. He had 13 receptions, 126 yards. Really nice touchdown. I think he has just surpassed

Puka for the most receptions for a rookie player like through 11 weeks. So, oh, he's a dog. The new Jeremy Shockey. He might be the St. Louis Memorial Award winner for the entire year because like people forgot the Raiders were playing. It's like such a shame. And you know what else is? Bro, who said Bright Bart Star? That's all. I saw that in the chat, too. Was that born in this chat? Bright Bart Sarr is the funniest thing I've ever heard, dude. It's up there. You guys are funny, dude.

If you all thought of that, man, we got some funny-ass fans. My bevel is going to this game. Really? Yep. Yeah. I liked it. Hey, Raiders. Yeah, it's great.

Raiders is always good. And then I want to put this out there, too. Thank you, God. Shadour Shanders. He tweets this after every Raiders law. That's the thing I wanted to talk about. How great is that? Bro, is that really on point?

Like every time? Yes. So, you know, he's just, that's what we're talking about when I think he, Dion wants to come to Vegas. Yep. You know what I'm saying? Yep. Because you know why too?

Because I think Tom Brady, I mean, Tom Brady had trained him at one point. Well, that's a big deal. Like Tom's in the building. You walk upstairs and be like, hey, Tom, what am I doing wrong? like can you imagine that having a quarterback coach fly on the wall next year the quarterback coach in Vegas when like the quarterback's just going to walk upstairs and be like he's telling me this bullshit what do you what should I do Tom you know that's a that's a man talk about getting big boy in your own building but uh that's how it goes when tom Brady comes I mean you saw

when he walked in they had everybody in the organization like the stadium crew was standing in that atrium um what was I going to say about this damn game you said the dog dolphins are back, they're in it. Yep. So the Bengals are cooked, the dolphins are in it. The dolphins are not cooked, but yeah. I said, I said that the dolphins, they have their nose. Look, look, look, they have their nose and their flipper like sticking out.

Baha'i, mai, they're sticking out. Some people with uneasy laughter, like, it's my fault that they're eating dolphins. You know what I mean? Oh, by the way. They do, don't they? Yeah, and by the way, guys. I would not eat Flipper. I can't hold it in.

But dolphins are bad. I can't hold it in. I have some bear meat on the way for us guys to try. I know what bear meat tastes like. We're going to have some bear. It's very oily. Is it really? I've never had it.

Pause, Nate. I put a call in. Nate, you want to eat bear meat? Pause. Bear meat, yeah. Oh, pause. Big, yeah, big pause. I guess.

You're trying to, hawk two of that thing? I'm like, hey, bear mace, hawk two of that thing. But no, honestly, it's late in the show. That's why we're talking like this. I don't know that the Dolphers are in it. Who do they have the rest of the season? Let's just look at that real quick. They absolutely are still.

If they play like this, no, my point to you was they can't not be in it in the Bengals. You're in it and then the Dolf Bengals aren't in it. You know what I mean? No, I'm saying this because I'm saying this because you're always giving hope to the Bengals. I know, I know, no. But they both have hope. That's the point. They both do have a schedule.

The dolphins are in it. They both have hope. See, look. Everyone's looking at it. Look, that's why we're pulling the schedule. No, I just think,

Nate, your inconsistent takes are weak as hell. That's my thought. What's, what do you? Nakes are cooked. We're kind of point. Like,

every, literally everything changes week to week. They're not inconsistent. Everything changes. Two was back now. All right. So they got New England, Green Bay,

the Jets, the Texans, the Browns. Okay, I got, all winnable. Okay, here's what I,

no, well, you could say any games, winnable, but I think most likely they beat the brakes off the pads. I think they lose in Green Bay. Okay. I think they have trouble with the Jets, but you never know.

Houston's a tough one. You even talk about going down to Houston with that rush. There's a problem, Houston. San Francisco's a tough one. Cleveland's a tough one with the front and that sort of thing. I mean, like, they're all tough, is my point. Now, the thing they have going for them is that past event has been pretty good. Like, you know, I think Weaver's doing a really good job down there.

So I think overall, like if Tua plays the way he played yesterday and honestly the way he played last week because I thought like that'll do that's enough. Okay, then they're going to be able to hang with teams. And to your point, they could be in it at the end of the season. And if the pass, the past protection plays as well, Tua is pressured on a season low 16.2% of his drop back. Well, you take care of Max Crosby. You just try to make sure you throw everybody at Max Crosby. But what does the mass say, Matt Nackie? According to the athletic, the dolphins are given a 28% chance to make the playoffs, which is primarily a function of them having one game more to play than the Bengals.

Right. So that's interesting. So that is, my interest is piqued. Okay. They'll need the Broncos. Zoom in a little bit, enhance. I can't on the screen. No, you can.

You just did. All right. Now go to the right. Okay, perfect. Okay. So go to left a little bit. Okay, perfect. Broncos, 43%.

Rams, 32%. Colts, 29%. Dolphins, 28%. Niners, 23%. Bro, and this is what I want to say about the Niners. When Nick was off the field, when Kittles out of the game, what it tells you is like this group is not, like the window is not as open as it once was.

It just doesn't feel like when you lose one player in your defense, you shouldn't look that much different. When you lose one player in your offense, I know they've got a couple guys. Brandon I, Uke and that sort of thing, and they spend a lot of season without Christian McCaffrey, but that still doesn't explain a lot of the problems they've had at times.

Like, can't all be just guys missing. They don't look the same. Bengals, 22%, yeah, I know you guys were referencing a 10% stead earlier. This one is more advanced. Oh, so I got a 22, I think the Bengals are 22% uncooked. You asked me earlier, the bucks are 19%

damn dude oh wait the Seahawks are down where how can you say that 11% based on projections of strength of team and strength of schedule going on I believe in Gina tiebreakers it's not who you play is when you play them yeah that's one of the

you know it's one of the old adages uh okay what's next the New Orleans thing that the thing that nobody saw yes the Browns and Saints thing Neal. Graphic might be the only redeeming thing

about this game. Did anybody see the game? No. So we as a podcast protested this game. We were all over Rizzi last week. We were like, yeah, I'm seeing his friends down on the Saturday night in Baton Rouge.

They're like, hey, man, like my friend's Rizzi. And I'm like, tell him he's gonna fucking win because they are. And then like a week later, we're just off it. And that's not to say that like we're not excited about this thing. I want to make one one point here. They're in Cap Hell next year. Like to me, unless you're in love with the coach in the market,

if this guy reels off some wins, maybe give him an Antonio Pierce kind of thing. And look, that's why he's my STL Memorial. His coaches aren't going to want to go there. He's my STO Memorial and best seat right now. Rizzy, they're 2 and O. Yeah. And like he has the best situation.

mean like what if you, I don't know if you're going to win out, but if you can get maybe two to three more wins, that looks really good for your resume. Like whether they're going to keep you or not, it's one of those things that you're building and you might fall into a head coaching job or stay at a head coaching job. And it's always good to put your best foot forward. And then I don't know if the guys are playing harder or what's different, but it's always good to like a team responding the way that they are. And they have players. there like it's something where if everyone's cooking like or playing decent they can they can win games they just have a lot of older player yeah and they're gonna be in cap trouble next year and i just

like the quarterback situation you would have like to see rattler play better and you know so i i don't know man um they have always had that we talked about this friday they always had that that that lately that uh way of thinking of like let's just kick the can down the road with the cap let's just just kick the can down the road. Let's keep trying to win. Let's keep trying to win. Let's convert some of these contracts and signing bonuses.

And eventually you have to pay the Piper. Yeah. Like, the cap is real in the NFL. Okay? And they're going to, they're finding that out. They will find that out. And what about my guy not to take lightly? If you just look at the numbers,

James had 395 passing yard. Did he really? Yes. In a losing effort. In a losing effort. Back home, back at his old stomping around. Yeah. He got the old mojo.

back or something but 395 and a loss two touchdowns I think he had two receivers over 100 I might have made that up but I think Njoku MBS I saw MBS on the side TV Judy had almost 150 Yeah yeah there was

And Judy that might be an SDL memorial Judy yep Judge Judy I was gonna say Brian Brzee is playing well for the for the Saints like young player that's good Super highly like yeah He's playing good too like the Saints They have a pretty easy schedule.

They got the Riz. They got the Riz in New Orleans. That should be the title. We got the Riz in New Orleans. We like Rizzy. We like Rizzy. We like Rizzy. But anyways, like, yeah, we didn't watch that game.

So, but I did see MBS score a touchdown. So that was cool. Catching some shots. Yep. Shot, shot, shot, shot, shot, shot, shot, shot. All right, you got I was supposed to say everybody. Everybody. Everybody.

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If your player scores second, you get your stake back in cash. Keep that in mind next time you throw in a first touchdown score bet with BetMGM. Happy hunting. I want to do a bet one day where I just put like a dollar on all of them for first touchdown and just see if it's like roulette and then no first touchdowns that game happens. It's like roulette, you bet all the numbers and then green hits. Bro, you're speaking French to me. And I do know roulette.

Yeah, like when you bet a bunch of numbers, yeah, it's going to be. hit and then bloop green green that's probably no that's most likely because i mean i mean you could bet green you could you could you could bet green people in the chat you could bet green um hey all i um is there anybody's birthday i'm forgetting besides bo's like is there any like major dates or congratulations in order anybody anybody have a kid or something so i feel like the show's done we we've got to fill out i have i have a great mention Okay. Moment.

Moment. No, we were doing mentions during the show. Oh, this is a great moment, then, Chris. This is worst seat. My worst seat is Thryfold. What's Thrifold? First worst seat. Daniel Jones is getting his ass benched.

That's a bad seat. Bad seat. Second bad seat of this whole situation is Drew Locke, who is being passed over for Annie DeVito. to start. But that's strictly a political move. No, no,

listen, listen, both. Oh, his contracts are incentive based. So he, they're basically just saying like, we're going to play Tommy DeVito A so that we can,

you know, get our fans back on our side, you know, Italian, stallion. I got three things. Sell some tickets. Get some pizza out.

And then the final worst seat of this whole benching is the fact that we are going to have Cooper Rush versus Tommy DeVito on Thanksgiving. And one of like, one of like, one game that I. I'm so personally excited. I'm always excited about Thanksgiving football. All right.

It's just great. You're fat as hell. You eat a bunch of food and then you watch football. But now I've got to watch Cooper Rush and I got to watch the Cowboys and I got to watch the fucking Giants with fucking Tommy DeVito and I'm going to fucking hate it. So that's my worst seat. Drew Locke, Dale Jones and all the... He's close.

Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck that. YouTube's going to flag us for that, bro. You just went on a generational run. Bo, the good thing about that game is that we can see the nap we're going to take already. We already know when it's, oh, yeah. I am betting and watching that game. I would rather see that game than in the past I've seen Dak and Heineke.

I've seen, I've seen, you know, Dak and Daniel Jones. I've seen Dak and a million people. And quite frankly, to pile on, I want to remind people this with Thanksgiving coming up, the NFL is out of its gourd to put every game inside on Thanksgiving. When you play a turkey bowl, what kind of family is like, let's go down to the rec center and play inside? Not American families. The NFL, you are misrepresenting your people. It's not fun to watch on TV.

The lighting's bad. And quite frankly, everybody's staying inside all Thanksgiving, gambling and eating and being in a food coma. We don't want to watch people inside. We want to watch people outside. So this is what you get in the words of Nate Collins, schedule makers, you POSs. this is what you get this is what you get seriously I hope the ratings are terrible

I'll be watching I'll be in the child line but I hope the ratings are awful seriously if you could pick a Thanksgiving what okay let's scrap Thanksgiving let's end the show with this scrap Thanksgiving games

which stadiums would you want to see which teams would you generally want to see on Thanksgiving Broncos lines in Denver in Denver bills only if it's snowing oh bills for sure

Only if it's snowing. But at the stadium. I want to see a Lambo game. Right. I think the Thanksgiving night game is a Lambe. It's at Lambe. I think we do have one outside. Okay.

Thank God. They always throw one in for us normal people. Okay. But yeah, you have at Detroit, at Dallas. I also like seeing a damn warm weather game. Like, give me a Miami game at home or something. Like, I want to see some green grass. Grass outside of my yard is yellow by that time.

I want to see some like some warm weather. It's like the Corona commercial where they got a Christmas tree with the, we want to feel warm. So give us a cold weather game, then give us a warm weather game. I'm going to talk about a cold weather game. In my facts viral moment, we're going up to Canada, where my old team, Winnipeg, unfortunately, they lost in the Grey Cup. But we got during the game a real streaker. A chick was butt-booty naked. I know, look at us, though.

Covering my own. But the greatest thing about this, you know this is Canada. Look at these cops. Bro, look at these cops and how calm they are. They gave her a jacket. Yo, streakers in the United States, they get absolutely speared, obliterated. Like, you know, like Bobby Wagner on the field, dude. Oh, exactly.

And the cops were like, sorry, sorry, here's a jacket. And why they're doing. And why they're. Can you please put your jacket on? Please. Okay. And while they're pulling her off the field, the stadium DJ starts playing bad boys, bad boys, what you're going to do?

So I just thought that was a great moment. It's funny. Dude, there's nothing less dangerous than a streaker. You can see there's no pockets. There's nothing in the pockets. There's like, what are you hiding a bomb in your butt crack? Like, there's nothing dangerous about a streaker. We act way too OD about these streakers, honestly.

And I wonder if Canada is like United States were betting and if someone had a bet or if there was a bet in for the gray cup to have a streaker and if so who won the most and if it's colluded you don't be really fun i got a fun idea and you're sweating out of your eyes again yeah it gets hot in here by the end of the show these lights okay let me tell you something if every game you don't know when it happens there's like a bet mgm streaker it doesn't have to be a naked person but like a person takes the field and you know how now they cut away it's so stupid don't cut away i want to see it like you're not gonna They make documentaries about murderers, but they're telling me I can't watch a streaker because it reinforcese bad behavior. It might make me want a streak.

I watched two episodes of Jeffrey Dahmer, haven't killed anybody yet. Just not a good decision. Okay? So I just like let the streak or streak. And I think won a game would be awesome. And it would add to the fanfare if like the players got to deck the streaker. Like I think players would love that. I don't think a lot of players would get hurt.

I think that would deter the streakers more than them, you know, not showing it on the market. No, but they pay the streakers. And then on top of that, look, it's a part of the deal. They get paid, but also too. Like Mr. Freeze is out there as a streaker. And think how much marketing you can get on that too. Like, hey, green light, the streaker, he's going second quarter this week. Yeah.

Half a million dollars. Yeah. We'll make them have a green light. We'll make them have a green light hat on or a green light. The Thanksgiving Cowboys game. So we can hopefully like. Just streak for a while, run around for a while. You distract from that bullshit-ass game.

You know how like corporations, they're like, we got this NFL player to come on Zoom. We're going to pay an NFL player a bunch of money to talk to our HR department or like, you know, like our accounting department is like a gift. Like I've been on these calls or like appearances. You know what the best gift would be? Like H&R Block's going to nominate one employee to get decked. Like that would that be awesome?

Yeah. The Lowing for the H&R Block that play of the game. Elspinant of that quarter. Yeah. You got to go run out out of the. Who would volunteer his tribute here? Oh. To you.

No, no shit. No, dude. No, God boy was trying to get me to fucking deck his ass when we went to the Badger football game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you'd be like, Quinn, Quinn, Quinn, hit me, hit me.

Bulldoze me, Quinn. The first guy. I love you. The first guy who has to do it has to be the actor that does the mayhem commercial. My son hates that guy because, you know what's so funny. those commercials are too good my son like one day was like dad i don't like that guy i was like why he's like look at how he treats people i'm like you just don't get the concept son be haven't he hasn't even seen us no he hasn't wait till you be oh my god i forgot that's him yeah it's him

it's ryan o'reilly shout out to add a bc shout out watching those commercials lately he looks like j j wott i don't know what it is he look he's out there in that driving that car on the mascot thing you know that one you think it looks like j j w i i think it looks like j j w i i'm Hold it up. I got to see it to believe it. Player comp. It's in there. Player comp, JJ, Watt.

It's a pretty good one. You were talking about gifting, gifting the ability to be on the field and be tackled by somebody I want Nate to gift us a first touchdown score for tonight if you have one? I do have one.

I have two, but I'll give you guys one. Do both. I'll give you both. If you're a Cowboys fan, we're going with Cooper Rush. I don't know what to expect from him, honestly, and I think that's why this bet is so intriguing to me. And it's plus 4,000.

The Cowboys, they are on thin ice. So they're going to try anything and everything to try to get into the end zone. So I think a quarterback run maybe might be the way with a backup quarterback. And then if you're a Houston fan, I like Robert Woods also a long shot bet for first touchdown at plus 4,000. I think he's a guy he does get passes. he does get looks. He's a vet. I think vets, when they get into the red zone,

end zone, you might be able to find those pockets to find your way open. So those are my bets. And remember with Bet MGM, if your first touchdown bet doesn't hit and they score a second, you get your bet back. What about Turpin, huh? I feel like Turpin might score.

Oh. Oh. Hey, bro, it's up in the air with the first bet. Hey, here's a bet I really like tonight. And a lot of times on Mondays, y'all are like what do you think i haven't even thought about it tell us the under bro oh like is that chalky like what's the that moved down from 42 to 41 which is fine i i don't know man talk me into the over you know like it's hard you know this pass rush cooper rush i mean cooper rush is capable

but what are they going to score 17 points the ghost of um ezekiel elliott comes back and they just go crazy you know he's got a ghost problem the jets that's what i heard i heard roger says they're still dealing with ghosts of the past that's that's why it's not this team's fault it's the old team's fault and it's certainly not his fault it's the team's fault but it never is took a little too much iowasca and he's seeing ghosts out there you guys give me he's he's he's a braver man to me going down and doing that stuff i'd be afraid to come back a different person on iwaska man i think i'd like that for you he would like that i walked into that one he sold his Achilles for ayahuasca.

Hey, anything else? We're good to go? We're good. Hey, chat. I just want to say I'm fucking tired of watching the Cowboys and said, that's all I got. I'm fucking sick of it. I'm not doing another Monday night football. Oh, I've got, I'm going to be in the Cowboys.

I'm going to be in the Chow line. I'm going to be bed in the under night, I think. Is the NFL, if you and the NFL, like a drug, maybe? Maybe. Maybe. Like, I think maybe, yeah. I think Hambly made it a drug, you know, it's like, you know, like, it feels great. Like, if you, like, if you know,

If they just took NFL away from you for like three weeks and you couldn't look at the scores after everything. Like you think you'd just be like you'd be itching if you knew it was football season? I might take that break if y'all gave it to me for three weeks. He's going to Mekanos. I'd be going to Mekinos. Shout to the Greek freak. Hey, chat, we love you. We love you so much, chat.

And we'll see you on Friday. and listeners.