Green Light with Chris Long - NFL WK 14 Reactions! Chiefs Outduel Chargers, Seahawks Beat Cardinals in NFCW & Vikings Demolish Falcons!

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

Welcome to the Green Light LIVE NFL Week 14 Reactions show! Chris, Beau and Dr. Fax break down the matchups, big games and storylines from around the NFL in Week 14. The Kansas City Chiefs had another magical ending, with Mahomes hitting Kelce for a first down late in the game and then ran the clock to set up kicker Matthew Wright for the winner which needed a little help to bounce in off the upright. Andy Reid and the Chiefs stay undefeated in one score games this season and have their last 15 one score contests. Justin Herbert played well, especially after the break but didn't see the ball for the final 4:35. The Seattle Seahawks dominated the first half against the Arizona Cardinals and held them off in the second half to extend their lead in the NFC West. Kirk Cousins returned to Minnesota with the Atlanta Falcons and had issues. The Vikings were all over Kirk and Sam Darnold outdueled him from start to finish. Darnold dropped a few dimes to Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison and the Vikings rolled to keep pace with the Lions in the NFC North. The NFL Playoff race is getting HOT! (00:00) - Intro: CFB Playoffs (12:15) - Kansas City Chiefs Walk It Off Vs LA Chargers (30:45) - LA Rams Surprise Buffalo Bills (54:10) - Pittsburgh Steelers Keep It Rolling Cleveland Browns (1:07:13) - Seattle Seahawks Beat Cardinals To Extend Lead In NFC West (1:15:35) - Philadelphia Eagles Withstand Carolina Panthers (1:30:25) - Minnesota Vikings Demolish Atlanta Falcons (1:45:35) - Tampa Bay Buccaneers Beat Las Vegas Raiders (1:54:38) - Jacksonville Jaguars Defeat Tennessee Titans (1:56:50) - Miami Dolphins Over New York Jets In OT (2:03:32) - New Orleans Saints Handle New York Giants (2:10:45) - MNF First Touchdown Scorer, Viral Moment Of The Week & Drip King! Want your Green Light Merch so you can look exactly like Chris and the fellas? Hit the website below and get kitted! https://stores.kotisdesign.com/yotehouse/products Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Send any Talent Search submissions to: [e-mail] Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgxWFAA-wuB7osdiAJyLOcw Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yeah, it's third and ten. Derwin killed P. Ryan. I don't know how Mahomes got out of there to make that throw. It was like a jump pass, vintage Mahomes. That's what I'm saying. That guy is still there. He's still Patrick Mahomes. It's just his greatness is not going to be unlocked with the group he has around him with tackle play.

But it's the same thing on third and seven. He's almost like, I've seen him do this before where he'll run right up to the line of scrimmage. And it's like Tom Cruise and Mission Impossible where he's like going under the lasers. it's like there's a laser across the field at the down marker and he knows right where to be and he almost like contorts his body to be able to stay behind it and make that throw. Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. Thank you for tuning it today for our week 14 NFL reactions. Chris Bo and Dr. Fax run through everything that happened week 14 around the NFL,

the great Bill's Rams game and other Chiefs one score win. It's getting ridiculous how they're getting away. with all these. And then a couple of teams took charge in the playoff race, the bucks, the Seahawks, both atop their divisions, the Vikings keeping pace in the NFC North. The Eagles not making it easy on themselves against the Panthers, but they eke out a win anyway. And the Steelers, with a big win against the Browns avenging their loss in the snow a couple weeks ago. A great episode for you all today. We'll be back later this week. Make sure to check everything out on YouTube as well. See you when we see you.

Howdy? Howdy. What's up, y'all? What's up? Asa, dad. You. How are we doing? Sa'ed, dude. So good. It's a little early today.

I apologize for changing time up on everybody. One more time. I got to go to Philly and do this charity dinner, team dinner with Connor Barwin and his Make the World Better Foundation. It's a wonderful foundation. And so is the Chris Long Foundation. We're going to get together and raise money for our causes tonight at stake 48. and at the beginning of the season

Bring me a tomahawk back? Yeah, I'll bring you up. I'm gonna You know there's machines that like vacuum seal stuff? I'm sure I'm sure a steakhouse like that can wrap it up real nice for you to go.

Like a two-day vacuum seal? Yeah, for sure. Because I don't come back until Wednesday. Hey, man. But like last year, we set up the inaugural team dinner scheduled it you know as it got closer it's nineers week it's it's the day after the nineers game at the link which of course was terrible I knew it was like a funeral and uh the next day all the guys I was I was hoping would come out to the event like not

going to happen and I wasn't going to ask now a couple of them came out and I really appreciate that and big dom came through this was like the day after he uh the day after he got into a green law and he was like a legend for a day in philly and a villain everywhere else forever he's still a legend and he walks been a legend dude he walks through the door yeah but it just took it went to the next level yeah you know and he walks through the door in his cardiac glasses and his sweatsuit and it was like the red sea parted and nobody cared anymore that you know like brandon graham was there like you know yada yada yada or lane johnson or what the cause was it was like the pope is here yeah you know he was like washing people's

feet in a bucket no he wasn't but uh that could be an auction package honestly so how much day in the life a big bomb rick friday i don't know it'd be the other way around I think Rex would want to be the you know so um anyways this year we uh we we we scheduled it and they were like do you want chris do you have any say and i was like let me look at the schedule and i saw the panthers game and i was like that's the day yesterday when xavier legett nearly caught that ball off the goal line i was like uh i have jinxed the eagles and uh the events just get a v dog shit But no, everybody's in a good food.

QB wins, right? Yep. QB wins. Jalen Hertz reels off another QB win. All right. So we're going to get to the Eagles in a little bit. But first things first, guys, anything you guys want to talk about from college football this weekend? Bama's not in.

Oh, God. Send him home. Oh, yeah. Wow. What's the reaction? Beville Comway is the college football playoffs without Bama. You're really that excited. Wow.

Yeah, man, it's the first one and to think the team that's been dominating Georgia. I mean, like, Georgia has been. Alabama has been dominated. No, I know. Alabama's always been in it. And in your mind, like, in your mind, you would probably think there's no way if you thought one team wasn't going to make it. Like, you weren't going to say Alabama wasn't going to make it. And then seeing everyone freak out about it is really why I like it.

Yeah. I think, like, Sagan out. He was freaking out. He's kind of caping for them why SMU shouldn't have been in and who did they beat. But it's just like, Alabama didn't get in.

If I was Mick Saving, I would want Alabama to never go back. Make me look as good as possible. As good as possible. That's hate, Chris. Put an end to hate. I'm joking. I think Dave.

No, 20-second time out on hate. Time out. Time out. Just 40 seconds. I think Debo and the ACC championship let SMU come back. so the playoff would have to keep Alabama out. He's playing a little chess.

Kevin Kiernick, I'm not blazed. You guys got to grow up. I'm not always high. This isn't like, this isn't like. No, that's facts. High school. That's facts. Just facts.

I'm not high. Oh, I thought he was saying. That is facts. That's fact. You're not always high. No, I'm really not always high. I know. You know, I walk in here in the morning.

I just, what did I do to make you think I was high? Just breathe. You're looking a little glossy, my guy. It's just a little studio. I got a head cold. I just feel like you get in the chat. You have nothing to say. It's like, oh, let me say this.

Yeah, yeah. No, I know. It's like, well, welcome, chat. Welcome, chat. What did y'all think about the college? Who do y'all want to win the college football playoffs? Because obviously, Virginia barely missed it. What?

Best bet. Best bet put your money on Georgia. Georgia has the easiest path. Well, someone said in the chat, Carson Beck, his cheeks. And dude, I've been doing this. thing lately where I've been watching football at like this awesome bar hat tricks in Tampa unbelievable

wings it's like a pure sports bar it's a new experience for me. Hattrick. Go watch college football drink some beer at some LaBatt LaBette maybe What a treat. It's like that's like a new experience for me I love it. Cheer with the with the every man at the bar. Watch the game

but I have a bone to pick about college. You are the every man now. Yeah baby but Wisconsin for the first time in 20 years our streak is over we are not going to a bowl game on Wisconsin Oh sorry

It's really devastating Well yeah because you lost the The axe dude to We lost the axe You guys were all talking about the rivalry game last week And I didn't say a goddamn word I know because we lost Oh we did too fashion

Yeah it's I mean I just I wasn't ready to talk about it I needed a week to kind of Wallow in my sadness in fear, fear for the future. I'd be sad too if I lost the PJ Fleck ever. Yeah, exactly. It's not a good thing, man.

No. I remember when y'all had a proper program. You too, man. So I kind of like Arizona State. I was going to say they're cheeky. I kind of like that. I kind of like their story. Yeah.

Kenny Dillingham. You know? Shout out to Denzel Burrell. Yeah, Denzel Burrell, our guy. Yeah, he works for Arizona State. He's been there for a while now. And Penn State, you know, one of our best friends is the wide receiver coach up there. Shout to Marcus Hagan.

So, you know, only one team can win this thing. And I think I'll finally tune in for all these games. Bro, they're about the – It means a lot. They're about to make so much money. This is – this is like – it's weird. Like, I love college football. But, like, this, just thinking about the future of this, it takes it to a new level.

Totally. And then, you know, we were combating the whole, like, guys are opting out of bowl games thing. I mean like, okay, well, let's take some bowl games off the table and put more of the, you know, matchups that we're going to be held around the TV into a playoff format. And so I love it, you know, I don't hear anything about guys not playing in this playoff. Have you heard of anybody not playing this playoff? That's great. And now they're talking about buying. Have you heard this?

Like sports owners are talking about buying. I knew you would. He's nodding. Kingston, what do you know about the sports owners talking about buying? It was the Bucks owner, right? he was talking about how people are going to buy college football programs now. Yeah, and kind of like we were talking previously with like private equity in the NFL, similar.

I mean, like we've been saying college football is like a minor league pro sport and more evidence of that. There's so much money to be made. There's a lot of money. So can't green light buy a team? Yeah, let's start a fund. Yeah. Can we? Maybe like maybe.

We're donate the chat. We'll buy a team. That's fire. Let's pick less find like the best D3 team. What would a D3 team go to? Oh, it's like a FCS school. Let's get like a No, let's get a deep

Re-school and then build it up. Let's build it up. Real life. Where now if you can invest capital up front, you can create a really good team quite quickly. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

it's like video games in real life when you do like all the story modes on NCA and pick your team and build them up and get money and recruit and my son Luke, five years old, begging me to play because he can't really play 2K. So when Whalen, who's 8, asked me to play 2K,

I always team up with Luke. And it's just like the worst because Luke's guy's in the stands. Like Luke's guy's just running in the stands. Like he's back court when I'm in the front court. When he gets the ball, he'll get the ball with like, I play with the 90 whatever Knicks, you know, like a legend team. Of course. And he's got Ewing, Ewing has the ball.

He's taking the ball up the court. I'm like, pass, pass, pass. anyways he doesn't like playing the game needless to say he'd been begging me to play a simulation which i'm like what the fuck is that yeah so i finally go upstairs to play him he's got it all set up he basically picks a team and simulates the season yep and watches the results yep i do that yep but he does it and he's like there's so much joy in this activity for him he's gritting the whole simulate like there's 82 games of him being like oh look at that Look at that.

He's like, hold on. Who won rugby in the year? Who won MVP? Future GM. No, he's... It was funny as hell, dude. The simulation thing, I don't really get it,

but I guess at his age, it's the best you can do. You don't have time? He don't got time to go through a whole season. He doesn't got time for that, dude. And when I realized I didn't have to sit through like a 40-minute game of 2K with him.

Look at that. I was like, all right. I like this, too. All right. you know who'd like to simulate the rest of their season probably as a chiefs this is getting a little a little close for comfort too often i think i know like guys devil magic dude no i i think it i think it was honestly in the beginning it's kind of a paradigm shift for me at this point because for a lot of the year i was like hey they're living a little dangerously we know they're really good and

but this is too close for comfort. Now I'm starting to be impressed with a team that I don't think is that good but could win it all. Like if you think the Chiefs can win it all, which you can never count them out, like, and we're talking about counting, we're not counting a team out that's 12 and 1 or whatever it is. But I just don't, I think when you watch them play,

if you have an honest conversation, you take the logo off the helmet, you take the last two years out of it. if you just landed on earth and had never seen football, and you were like, watch some Sundays, what do you think of the Red team? Red team's not that good. Red team's really good at the end of the game.

Red team knows how to win close games, but I don't think the Red team's like a world-beaten team. And I don't even like, if you're watching Mahomes right now, there are moments where that Mahomes like QB1 on the planet comes out. But you can't tell me watching what we saw. in the 4 pms that that guy's not the best player on the planet right now and i'm talking about josh allen for what that's worth he's still got to beat him in the damn playoffs but i'm watching the chiefs and i'm just kind of like i'm almost impressed with him you everybody else is like what's

wrong with the chiefs i'm like a lot and they find ways to win you know what i mean and and um 15 straight one score games yeah and and last year you know there's a lot of people that are using last year as an example of why you shouldn't count them out. And like, just remember, I'm one of a few people who were very loud about this thing. Do not count the chiefs out. They're going to win the whole thing. And they did. I don't have the same feeling this year. That's not to say they can't do it. Home field advantage is going to be the key, especially when your defense is playing the way your defense is playing. Like, last year, the reason they were able to stay afloat through the drops, to tackle play, which people kind of forgot about because of the drops. And then,

the tackle play was terrible. And the tackle play played into the drops, too. Because the more you got to hurry and throw the ball away because guys are throwing no hitters up front, you're going to be throwing balls into contested areas of the field. Zones don't, you know, expand where you can just find soft spots and that sort of thing. Like the, the mohous we saw a couple years ago, better receivers, better time to throw. And now he's got, you know, an aging Hopkins who can still go get it, right? you got an aging Kelsey Shoesters making plays Juju Juju you know

you've got some of the old cast members that have popped up Pacheco's back but I don't look at this team and like stack it up against some of the other teams in the league if Mahomes isn't in this offense it's not that great of an offense and it starts with the tackle position and to see them sign Humphreys

who was supposed to be like a stopgap we talked about how excited everybody was that he got in the building not much changed last night. I mean, he was under siege, and then Humphreys got hurt. Guy hadn't played in years, like a couple years, right? Coming off an injury. Yeah, but Mahomes is so good at avoiding the rush.

And I, dude, I texted our group checks. I took a for a into sports betting for the first time all season this year. I bet the over on sacks, okay, which is six and a half. I bet the over a sacks, and I parlayed it with the Chargers win. And I was like, oh, this is fucking genius, like St. line or the O line for the chiefs is banged up and the charters have a great defense. They got Mac, they got Bosa. They had six sacks in that final drive.

Okay. Pat Mahomes evades that sack, gets the ball to Kelsey and they kick a field goal off the upright to win. I'm like, oh my God. Like, I just lost this bet on this. You know what I mean? Like, it's unbelievable. Dude, don't even have lost my ass yesterday.

I was losing my mind. Now I understand where you guys come on here and bitch about these, about these bets every week. I get it. I understand. It's unbelievable. Dude, it's wild. And I stared at it, bought the chiefs down to three and was like, I should buy them down to two. You know, and of course the Buffalo disaster that happened to me in the 4 PMs.

And happened to a lot of Americans because that was a pretty public play. It's a public year. Sometimes you've got to be like, oh, I'm going to go public because it's public year. But I look at Kansas City and I just think with the shots, I mean, Palmer, that shot was there in the first half. they couldn't hit it multiple explosives a lot of explosives over the last few weeks especially i think that's the thing that worries me most about this team if they have a fantastic defense like they had last year then you can and there were moments last night where they played well but they only got what 10 pressures not bringing pressure last night i mean on 26 like 10

10 quarterback pressures was that no that was the bill's got 10 pressures i think the chiefs might have got even less outside of bringing pressure spags has to dial it up if spags has to dial it up too much and in situations where he otherwise wouldn't you can end up in trouble and i think like i omenahue coming back helps but somebody besides chris jones has to win a lot of rushes for them you know because the coverage is not as good as it was last year sneed being gone makes a huge difference willie gay being gone underneath makes a difference watson being hurt you know there's matchups now that when you come into a game against the Chiefs. There's some guys that kind of, they kind of, they look like food.

And that's not something I'm used to seeing, right? And I think also McDuffie could play in places that he was most comfortable last year. Sneed leaving changes that. So there's a lot that they've had to cover up on defense and they're still doing a pretty good job considering, you know, the points on the board ultimately is what matters. But if you look at them the last month of the season, like the Panthers game, the shots that the Raiders hit last night. I mean, McConkey's down.

Who do you have to worry about? Right. This guy Stone Smart's killing you. You know, Palmer's killing you. There's guys getting open. He's got time. He's played pretty well. Quinn Johnson played pretty good for the Chiefs.

Yeah. For the Chargers. For the Chargers, yeah. Quinn Johnson caught a ball early in the game that he wouldn't have caught any other game, I feel like. Yeah. And you know you're going to get people's best shots. as well. And that's part of it for the Chiefs is like, you know, Chiefs fans will tell you,

we're getting everybody's best shot. And I totally agree with you. But that's the reality. So are the lions. The lions are getting everybody's best shot. The thing about the lions is they have the capability of both teams out, which I know winning close games is a big part of winning in the playoffs. But it also matters what your point differential is and that sort of thing. Otherwise, we wouldn't even look at it. You know, it's kind of a barometer for how good your team is. And so my biggest worry is if they don't get home for the advantage, which with the bills losing yesterday, it looks a lot more likely that they do,

that it's hard to go on the road without an elite defense in the NFL and win. And that's what they had last year and it allowed them the opportunity to get into the dance, the plays they made in that Baltimore game. You know, part of that's an assist with Baltimore not running the football. I don't feel as good about a Baltimore rematch. You know, the first time they had them, they had the receivers on the field, right?

they were healthy and Baltimore committed a ton of penalties which is not you know kind of out of character for them that could happen to get in the playoffs but um chiefs are going to have to live dangerously to win it all again and so I'm just I'm worried about the chiefs like getting down against the team early in the playoffs and like I feel like they've been in these close games but they haven't really I don't know like you see all the stats early in the season of Mahomes coming back down 10 points and winning and things like that it just feels like lately they're grinding out these not sexy wins, you know, and I'm worried about them in the playoffs, getting down to a team like, I don't know.

Like the Ravens. Yeah, like the Ravens, exactly. You know, because I don't think they have, I don't think they have the guys to really, to really eat up points in a hurry. And, you know, like, and that's all I'm saying, hey, this is incredible what they've been able to do. It's incredible. They're the number one seed this late in the season.

So we're nitpicking a little bit, but if we're being honest, there are some things that are concerning. You know, they're winning this game in a similar fashion to the way the Chargers had to win last week. It's a low-scoring game against the Falcons. I mean, that team, that team got blown out by the Ravens, you know, Ravens were too much for them. And then they're playing a tight game with the Falcons. It's the same thing against the Chiefs at Arrowhead. So, you know, they came out in the third quarter. I was super impressed, got into more third and manageable. It felt like the whole first half, Chiefs did a good job in keeping them in third long and so yeah for harbaw's crew they're still in the thick of it in the wild card and what a harbaw

say of the game i'm only wounded um it's just a flesh wound or whatever he's said that's such a good quote though like he seemed so hurt also like you just know that he is like you know like he didn't sleep a wink last night but okay we talk about the chargers they're missing a lot of key guys offensively and they still hung in there with the chiefs until obviously the very last drive the thing that's so impressive to me is and you mentioned it briefly like they when it when it came to be crunch time chiefs charged on the field and they won that game and ate up what like four minutes of clock yeah and that's i mean that's what they're so good at that's what they're good at situational football when it really really matters and that's all that the playoffs is um i'm hoping i kind of like i'm caping

for the charges a little bit i love harbaugh i just like the way their team is built i think their offensive offensive line is really good and that's probably some of the reason for the lack of pressure if they get some of these dudes back like lad macaque they could they could make a pretty serious playoff push and i hope they do because i like that team piggyback i like herbert a lot i like herbert yeah piggyback in what he's saying with all of the um injuries that they have right now do you guys believe in moral victories even when you lose like for a team like this no i don't not not last not for the chargers because they've been knocking on the door so long and i don't think in the west and I don't think until they kicked the door down

and beat this team, you know, handling. Yeah, like, they got to beat them. And they just, they haven't done it with regularity. There was a time where I thought this was close, and I think it will be close in maybe a year because I think the Chargers have done a lot without much. I mean, like, hey, their offensive lines very good. They also gave up, like, five sacks to the Falcons last week,

so Chiefs just couldn't find a way to get him down. I will say this, though, and this is to wrap it up so that nobody thinks we're i'm not i'm complimenting the chiefs okay i don't think they're that talented i don't think that they have some of the the positions that they had unlocked last year i mean corner being one for sure and that's a big big deal okay i don't think they're that good but they're playing to to a level latent games where they can get out of trouble and that's the whole thing. Bo, you talked about it, that's playoffs.

That four-minute possession, it begs the question, what was the Chargers third-down situation? I can't remember before they kicked that field goal. Fourth down, what was it fourth and... 11, the last field goal? Yeah. Yeah, fourth and 11.

You got to wonder if part of it was like, if we can get a better play on third down, and I would have played for four-down territory and tried to... Because it's just different. when my homes needs a field goal to beat you it does factor into the way they call plays and the way they

operate right yeah and so when you give my homes four downs you know effectively at midfield or whatever it is after that bad kick dicker line drive kick you take it at the 40 yep if I'm harbaw if I'm Greg Roman and I'm sure they were thinking about this

like maybe the right thing to do not on fourth and 11 but had it been fourth and manageable would have been to go you know and cement that you had to get in the end zone if you were the chiefs you know because what you get still is derwin james killed peering on that i think it was third and ten yes third and ten derwin killed peering i don't know how mahomes got out of there to make that throw it's like a jump pass vintage mahomes so i'm saying that guy is still there he's still patrick mahomes it's just

his greatness is not going to be unlocked with the group he has around him with tackle play. But it's the same thing on third and seven. He's almost like, I've seen him do this before where he'll run right up to the line of scrimmage. And it's like Tom Cruise and Mission Impossible where he's like going under the lasers. It's like there's a laser across the field at the down marker. And he knows right where to be. And he almost like contorts his body to be able to stay behind it and make that throw. And he's always pulling coverage up.

It's just so hard to get them off the field in third and manageable, as long as they can stay in third and manageable, but last night at times, it was harder for them to do that. Their help at the end of the game. But what happens if a team comes out with a solid game plan and really gets a lead on them? It's interesting when Chris Collinsworth pointed this out, but he said when Patrick gets out of the pocket

and is running towards the line of scriments, like you were just talking about, he was saying he's not looking to run, he's looking to throw, but he wants to pull the defense towards him. He wants to pull coverage. Exactly. And it's wild that he's able to do that every single time. So routinely.

So every time. Because the 12-yard tiptoes, they hurt too. Yep. You know, and the last thing you want to do is give up a first down on quarterback scramble. That's the thing that guys really get chewed out about. And the second-level guys feel that. But it would be better if they stayed, you know, on their coverage. Is there anything you can tell a defense?

where, like specifically that last, that third and seven, is there anything, Mahomes is running up to the line of scrimmage. He's got, I think, three or four charges in his face. Two are coming straight on. One's coming from the line of scrimmage. Is there anything you tell the defensive line that, like, all right, if you're coming sideways from the line of scrimmage, you see he's pretty bottled up.

Should you tell a de-leming guy to at least look and see if there's a target to drop off on two? No, I mean, I think generally, if there's like a crosser who's sat in a hole and you're the backside three technique or end and all of a sudden the plays you know the plays all the way over there and you're you're humping it like yeah you could divert and pick him up for a second but like mostly your job is to take out the quarterback and so you know that that's what puts him in such a bind is like if he pulls coverage off you know they're going to convert almost every time and so that's vintage mahomes and it's still there.

But I do think Josh Allen right now, I'm comfortable saying he's the best quarterback on the planet right now. Six touchings. But the whole thing is like, Mahomes has owned this decade. So if we're talking about who's got the best, you know,

Hall of Fame credentials or who's got a chance to be the best quarterback of all time, like it's not a conversation right now. Mahomes has done a lot more on his track record as far as winning's concerned. But if I had to draft a quarterback right now, and I'm not being a prisoner in the moment because it's a slow cook take, I'm probably taking Josh.

And that's no disrespect to my homes. I just haven't seen enough of this year. Like going into the playoffs, Josh is the best quarterback on the planet. He's an alien. He's the best quarterback in the universe. That's what McVeigh said. There's some other planet that they're playing football on. You know, the whole, like, there's probably another Earth out there.

There's probably another Josh Allen out there somewhere. but as far as on this planet, yeah, I don't know. Another entity that is the best of what they do on this planet, we'll shout out to BetMGM. Oh, BetMGM, absolutely. BetMGM has been, BetMGM has made betting easy and seamless all season long. We all have some win totals.

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No, man. Even if you think they're going to lose, just be like, you know what? Even if they lose Josh, well, I did, but I did, but I didn't bet it big enough. Yeah. Like the over was a no-brainer. Yeah.

Because when all the signals say, take the Rams, then you know that the way they're going to beat them is a shootout. Like, they weren't going to win a low-scoring game against the bills, in my opinion. So, you know, hand up.

I mean, just a dummy, dummy move by me. But it was fun for a second. Like there was a time late in this game where I was like, holy shit, they're going to win this thing. Smack. I mean, it was crazy, dude. Yeah, that Mack touchdown. And I don't know where we start.

I think where we start is giving. Let me start. Let me start it off with a game ball. Okay. Give it a game ball out. Puka. What a guy. Dude, I like actually have a man crush on him.

Remember when we interviewed him? How many man crushes can we have? Wait, man crush Monday. Man crush Monday. Yeah, man, Crush Monday. My man crush Monday is Puka, man. Yeah. Great, dude.

But, like, how, just how cool is he, how cool he is, how calm and collected. Then an absolute fucking baller, dude, 162 yards touchdown, rushing touchdown. I had my fantasy team. I forgot to pull off JT from the Colts by week. And Puka absolutely carried me to a win. Like, what a good dude. Like, I love that guy. He did it for you, Beau.

He remembers the Toyota. a Toyota interview. Yeah, he does. That we did at the Super Bowl. Yeah, we love that guy. And I just, I don't mean to be hyperbolic, but when Puka and Cup and Stafford are on, I don't know of another triplet group in the NFL when you take the sum of the hole, like there, that's better.

Who's better? Bro Higgins Chase. I don't know. And I was just about to say. I was just about to say. Montgomery Gibbs. What if, what if Higgins

are there? I'm talking about receivers. I'm talking about two receivers. No, no. Arnold Jefferson Addison. No, because the quarterback's better.

Stafford's better than, Stafford's better than Darnold. Historically, yeah, but I mean, Darnel played great yesterday. Okay. But what I'm talking about is when these three guys

are at their best, I don't know. Like, that's a Hall of Fame quarterback there. Yep. Like to me, and Burroughs going to be there. Higgins is,

Higgins and Chians and, chase are great and maybe that's the other that's the other one but i i just these guys when their backs are against the wall and i think that's what this whole thing reminds me of it's like a tv show that we all love we love mcvay we love cup we we love puka now but it's mainly been stafford cup mcvay and i feel like they've been talking about canceling this tv show for the better part of five years yeah and Every year these guys are like, nah, we got another one in us. Like, don't let them, don't let them kill us off. Don't, don't let them convince us to sell parts.

Don't let, we're not hitting the reset button. And the Rams have stayed relevant because McVeigh's a hell of a coach and Stafford's a hell of a quarterback, but also hitting on Pooka, when he left the game for a hiccup yesterday, I was like, oh, they got a shot. But when you have all three, three of those guys on the field together with McVe's offense and the offensive line, doing as good a job as they did yesterday. Buffalo, that was the 10 pressure number that was stuck in my head. Buffalo had 10 pressures. Not good enough. No, no sacks. But the offensive line, the play action pass had something to do with that. The way they run play action, the way they're able to run the football. Yesterday, they got in those condensed formations. We talked about that,

Nolan. Yep. And, you know, if the bills are in too high, they're going to challenge you to run the football, which they always do. Yeah, you're always down numbers in the box. Like, if you're going to stay in too high, they keep, they got all those gaps, like extra tight ends in the game, the receivers and condensed splits. They're down numbers every time. And that's where I'd like you to, I mean, bring some more edge pressure early. When you're seeing those condensed splits

because when the splits are condensed, the space is condensed. And so is the distance that the blitzers are coming from. It took them a little while to challenge and play more single high. But like the point is, I just am so impressed by Stafford, by Cup, by McVeigh, by Pooka.

look like the best wide receiver on the damn planet yesterday. Like he really, I mean, he has flashes where he should be talked about in that class. I mean, he's not maybe Jefferson. He's not, but he should be up there talked about with those guys. Dude, the way, the way he catches contested balls is like the ball he caught on the sideline in the second quarter was the body control. Yeah. It's unbelievable. He's so tough.

I think he just threw his hands behind him, right? He just, he wouldn't even look at the ball. just threw his hands where he'd think the ball would land and he caught it somebody said ck in the chat said darnell's better than stafford right now i don't know about that oh you might be a Anna what's Hannah in the chat are you gonna post bail prisoner of the moment huh who Hannah said what Hannah's been she's been she's been ripping off some funds at 12 dollars total to us Hannah appreciate you huh question Stafford was the better QB than Alan no you got to you got to understand you're asking Chris that.

No, but I mean, I mean, no, no, because Alan also did 83 on the ground. And Alan's throwing the ball to, you know, he's down Coleman, he's down King Cade, the Rams had their guys. They were at full strength, their backs against the wall. And really, do we have to do the who was better yesterday? They were both incredible. Who's the better quarterback? Josh is, but that's because he's the best on the planet.

Matt Stafford has been unbelievable of late. And just a guy that, for the best. beating he took in Detroit for him not to fall apart late in his career. I've just been waiting for it to happen. Not in like a, like, I hope it happens. But like eventually, you're like, you guys like Buddy Lee, dude, from the jeans commercial. You can't kill the guy. It's unbelievable. You can't kill this core group. They won't, they won't die. So for the Rams to go back against the wall at home in a game where you kind of pictured it maybe like James Cook's going to be able to run the ball. The Bills fans are going to take over the stadium.

you know, Josh is going to go off, which he did, but they were able to outscore him, and part of it was that block punt. Yeah. You can't go on the road and give a block punt like that. And to a team that's, you know, they've already defined the script of the game by jumping you early. And you play that game down 10, down 17, the whole game.

Now, there is something I want to talk about here. In a game that's that closely contested, maybe this is what it comes down to, is coaching. Mm-hmm. Is coaching. and decision making. And I thought Sean McDermott

had maybe his worst game of the season. Now there were other moments like the Houston game where I thought he wasn't great, but there were multiple opportunities in this game for the bills to get back into it.

In my opinion, we always talk about the middle eight guys. As players, we used to always hear about it before the half out of the half, the eight minutes in the middle of the game, four before the half, four after the half. Where, especially when you're the bills and you have a chance for a two for one, you're down, you're down 10.

I thought they were wasteful. I thought they rushed up to the line on third and two, one 15 to go, almost the midfield. And instead of like get your best play and run it, and that might be a run play, you might be in four down territory considering the script of the game. I probably would have been going on fourth and a couple inches, which might have affected the way I call third down,

but instead they rush up to the line and they get in a pass play. and end up punting the football. So you miss the front end of the two for one, and then you get it out of the half, and Shakir drops the ball. And, you know, that's one throw that maybe Alan wants back, but I also think Versus kind of in the window,

so he's kind of throwing it around verse. But Shakir's got to catch that ball. And then at the end of the game, in my opinion, where they really lost the game was, what was y'all's opinion? Do you think on fourth and seven in that situation, up three points, McVeigh, was going to go for it.

Yes. You do. Yeah. On fourth and seven. Did he say that after the game? Did they ask him about that? I don't know, but I just think you compare the distance of the field goal and then looking at the way Josh is playing.

Yeah. Like you got to go for the score there. And also the other thing that comes up and Greg Olson brought this up last week with the Falcons. I think it was the Falcons. I can't remember. But he talked about the, oh, it was the Cardinals, Cardinals Vikings. the difference between when the team's gunning for a touchdown and when they're trying to tie the game. When a team has to score a touchdown, like the bills, they're going to use all four downs.

It's going to be really hard to get them off the field. There's a reason to believe in that scenario that if you go for it and you don't get it, you're still okay because there's a chance the bills are going to be playing for that field goal. They're a little bit less aggressive. They might not be using fourth down. So however that would have shook out, they decide to back him, up to third and 17. If McVeigh were not going to go, I would have said in a heartbeat, force him to kick the field goal. Now only McVeigh knows that, maybe he's talked about it.

But when you back him up to third and 17, you're a defensive coach, him and Babbage, who haven't been getting a lot of pressure, decide to go four down and try to pressure that group. But you have to know if you were afraid enough to push him back, they were probably going to go on fourth and five. So instead of playing it like it's third and seven, play it like it's fourth and seven you know force a fourth and long make them think about it they didn't do that they couldn't get a rush and then on fourth down they go they zero up and i know that the tackle for the rams is all is he's false started i don't there were calls that maybe buffalo got for sure mac hollins had a tug on one of the touchdowns i'm not going to do the calls thing um having said that though

I thought McVeigh and that group did a great job versus zero because early in the game in the red zone, they actually had a rare stop in the low red when Buffalo zeroed up. And I think Stafford missed the guy in the corner of the end zone. It was like a corner route. He went somewhere else. So they were ready for zero. They hit Puka.

And then that's it. And to me, going down 10, Josh still had a chance, right? You saw how quickly he ate up 90 yards or whatever or 80 yards. The worst mistake he made of the game was lining up to sneak the football with a dead clock on the one yard line. Sneaking, getting stopped, calling a timeout, which makes it a fucking on-side kick game, which is like they said it's 7%. I think it's closer to 0.07. And taking the ball to Josh's hands. That big son bitch is going to sit on the sideline now.

You can't tell me, especially when you come out of the time out and run the same damn play, you run a sneak again, that you couldn't have just lined up and done the same damn thing with 50 seconds ago, kick the ball deep.

How long does it take for Josh Allen to complete a pass to get into Lance Bass's range indoors? Lance Bass. You know what I'm saying? That was crazy. Lance Bass, Danny DeVita. Like, bro, that was like,

I was screaming at the TV. I understand there are like decisions that coaches make and some aren't popular, but to me there was like zero upside. When you run the first sneak, you should know that if you don't get it, you're immediately lining up and running it in and again. Or don't run a one to play.

I think you. Yes, yes. I think that was actually one of Tom's better moments in the box, too, because he was critical of that, like, right off the bat. And he was actually, like, very passionate about that. You haven't seen a lot of, like, fire and flames from him or, like, just general emotion,

enthusiasm from him in the box. And, like, Chris, he called that out right away. I thought that was good. Like that was definitely the biggest. Tom was on that. And also I think McDermott mentioned too that for that final punt, which is like critical moment, they only had nine players on the field,

which is a pretty rare coaching mistake for the bills there. Dude, just a mismanaged game, mismanaged defensively. I don't know if there was a better way to play those guys. I think the matchups were just tough. Like you can't sit in zone coverage against Stafford in that group. They were picking them apart.

And then when they manned up, It was just flags left and right. So, you know, like overall, just an amazing football game. I don't think this, I think it was a very unique challenge that the Rams posed in their form yesterday. That I don't think the bills are going to give up 45 points a game in the playoffs. It's not like that kind of thing. They got Milano back. He looks a little rusty.

He's been back for like two weeks now out there in the arm brace. Micah Hyde came back. He's on the practice squad. you know he's like kind of work i don't know if that really matters um maybe they get a little healthier but overall it's just it was a tough matchup day for them like it just it just was so well that's uh our girl hannah a in the chat busting out her wallet another one dollar 99 cent question here how do how how how do the bills bills dc couldn't contain puka um i think he's just a really tough matchup problem they do a really good job with those

motions pre-snap moving around they do a lot with him on end-arounds in the run game and things like that but then also like he was just making great plays yes well they can't defend against that no better get ready because they got ama i i think they match up better against the lions i really do and that's why i do i think they do also i really do that's my best seat is going to next week's game bills at detroit yeah after a loss yeah it feels like a must win for the bills. It, I,

if they want home field, this is a huge witness test for them. Yeah. But, you know, they could get, they go to three losses and, you know, pull that thing up there.

I mean, but I just like two, we got some eight and five teams behind them. Two losses in a row at this, like in, in December, doesn't, doesn't feel good.

It doesn't feel good. No, it doesn't feel good. But not that the offense needed any more firepower, but it could have helped early to have Kincaid back. could help to have Keon Coleman. You know, those things matter.

But overall, it's just a situation where, like, the bills can win a shootout. They easily could have won that shootout. They don't get the punt block. You know, I think they got a much better chance. I think the Chiefs have a harder time winning a shootout. I think the Steelers have shown that they can win a shootout. If they can get the ball in the red zone. So you talk about, like, kind of the ledge after Kansas City.

Buffalo and Pittsburgh it goes like Texans then Ravens then Chargers the Ravens are still capable of greatness because of the quarterback and they can score so listen there's no dominant defense there really isn't like a truly dominant defense in the AFC this year no dominant dealers are really good they're really good but they're not dominant not dominant they were early but they're not right now. Yeah. No. So, before we move on from this game, I had this as my Bevel Conway. I just saw it look beautiful. High scoring game. Lots of great plays. You know, I'm, I'm with you, Chris, where I don't like indoor football as much, but I look good. This was a good, good uniform matchup, stately. And real fast, before we hit our MRP, because this was our MRP game from Friday,

but Stafford, just speaking to how great a game he played, he was 7 of 7 for 97 yards and two touchdowns, empty formation. Entering the game, he was 9 of 26 for 86 yards and a pick all season. Wow. Ridiculous. No, they had their best. They had their best game plan. McVeigh scares a hell out of you.

He's a great coach, dude. He just, he deserves a lot of credit. A lot of credit. And, you know, you talk about coach of the year. If they had a coach of the last five years, what the guy's been able to do, just keeping this group together. How many times have we said, like, oh, the ramps should say? sell or the Rams are done

three like every year they're scratching clawing if they're not in first place in the NFC West so here's a stat and it's one of those Sean McDermott stats six touchdown zero turnovers and lost two six touchdown zero turnovers

teams prior to that or prior to yesterday with that stat line 245 and oh it's wild so not good and then the Rams play in Niners this Thursday night they are six and one in true Thursday night football spots um but shanahan has owned the matchup so what gives um and i think this is a spot honestly where san francisco from a betting standpoint

makin's not in the building right now this thursday night football i think it's a san francisco spot is what i kind of worry about i feel like they circled the wagons yesterday and just beat the dog shit out what happened in that game can you tell me real quick because i just absolutely beat the brakes off the bears like purdy was connecting with kiddell he was connecting with jennings the young kid garendo came in and looked just as effective as jordan mason ever did they were up 24-0 at half and the bears had four yards of offense i think sometimes like losing christian mcalfrey it can allow you to although you lose some stuff in the passing game you can just say hey from a run game standpoint like let's just commit to who we are and uh there's no like hey we're going to get him

back in a couple weeks. Like, let's just assume he's not going to play a lot the rest of the year. Let's put her head down. And you don't need, like Trent Williams makes a big difference in the run game. But to run on a group like Chicago, you know, you can just be schematically sound, run your shit. And that's what they did. It seemed like the run game and the explosives. I don't know.

I was watching on the side TV. It seemed like they had whatever they wanted. And it was cool. That kid Garando, he had never. started a pro game and only started one game in college in his whole life. Yeah, he ran like a four. He was at Wisconsin. Yeah.

He transferred out of Wisconsin because of Braylon Allen. Yeah, I mean, he played well. He's quick, man. He is fast. I think he's a trackster in high school as well. So that'll be a good game Thursday night. I really do think so. I'm pretty impressed or more so from a distance before I get watched the tape.

But like, that's an interim head coach game. you know hey usually that's supposed to favor the bears right you got bosa down you have um Trent down you have a ton of injuries that you've already sustained the team kind of looks like shit that's supposed to be a bear spot I had a five leg parlay that needed the bears yeah I did not want to keep watching yeah no no that got ugly fast yeah that got ugly fast um okay so anyways MRP from our bills ran why don't you guys make me a short list while I take a leak you You got it. You're going to think I'm going to some, uh, early submissions. Uh, Kiko Alonzo. Chris Everett. Kiko Alonzo. Holy shit.

I haven't thought about that dude in a minute. Uh, Jim Everett, Chris Everett? Chris Everett? Chris Everett? Chris Everett? That's good. Yeah, yeah. Uh, Roscoe Parish.

Call me Chris again. See what happens. I will. I will. I will. Okay. Um. Um

Ritchell roll that's a good one Dante Wittner Dante Hittner Really I think Paul Puzzlezny reference there they're a bit There are a couple in here He had a ball

He's a whole teammate Yeah yeah Didn't you see him Didn't you see him when you went down there A couple weeks ago Did not Let's each have one to recommend So we'll each have one

When Chris is going to say Paul I called Dante Wittner Somebody said Tyler bad I bet he's I bet I bet I bet

I bet Chris is going to say Pisa the other team Bill and Rams and bills Yeah I bet he's going to say

Pisa Pisa Tina Isamoa Isamone All right We each have one For you Nate who is yours

Paul Potslisky Pizzlezni Paul Fislezni Didn't you play with him He was Cool, huh? Old teammate, yeah. Dude, he was a great player.

Great, great teammate. Paul had a, Paul had a great career. It's just the Jags were really bad while he played. But our defense, like, I can't lie. The years I was down there, our defense wasn't that bad. But he's an example of a guy that if he played somewhere else, like everybody would know who he was, and I guarantee you younger people, don't remember Paul.

That's how I felt about a lot of people in the locker room when I went down to Jacksonville. Right, that's just the NFL. Yeah. All right, who else? I had one, uh, Kiko Alonzo. Love it. The first thing I think about Kiko Alonzo, unfortunately is like, didn't he kill Flacco? Yeah.

Mm-hmm. And everybody went after him. Oh, he, yeah, it was like the, the Al-Shire thing. Mm-hmm. Was it just like the Al-Shire thing? He just about, was a slide. Yeah, slide and came over the time. And that was the one like Joe Flacco gets up a little slow and is, yeah.

Wow. It was, it was a bad one. I got OJ, a Tagway, who played with you. OJ was a hell of a player. OJ really is Stanford guy, like a ball hawking dude back there. Loved OJ. All right.

And I'm seeing Leotis McElvin. Dante Hittner is in there. Hittner was a beast. And another teammate of yours, Pisa Tino Isamoa. Yep, yep. He was a dog. I love playing with Pisa.

But I just saw Brad Butler, UVA offensive tackle in the mix. I'm going to let you. y'all picked this week you know brad butler uva you're gonna go with brad burtler well okay bradler congratulations this is a good poll brady dodson that was his name

brady dodson okay so we're talking about the a fc right now the bills the cheese steelers man steelers really impressed with the way at least just glancing at this thing Pickens is down. They're able to spread the ball around.

It was slow going early, but they kind of found a way to get the passing game going. Goddy Miller. Come on. Your guy. Gooder. Your guy. My guy.

My buddy. He had a couple nice catches, man. I think he didn't know he was going to be up until like two minutes before. You know what I mean? Like getting ready that George Pickens was going to be out. That's life in the NFL, isn't it? Hey, Nate, when you used to find out if you were going to be up or not, depending, like, what was that like?

It was, it was the worst, because in Jacksonville, it's like, game day, there's 53, I mean, there's 53 people on the roster, game day roster is like 45 or 47, whatever it is. And so, like, there's float players where you don't know if you're going to be up or not. Right. And, like, the way, some teams will let you know outright, but some teams don't let you know so that everyone has to be prepared. Yeah.

have to prepare like you're gonna play which now in retrospect like i understand it like guys like if you hint to a guy hey you you might not but that's kind of treating us like children a little bit you know like in other workforces but it's human nature like if they were like i'm not going to tell you if i'm going to need you today until like right before we go you know there's also protection against an information leak too information because you're bringing somebody up that means somebody's going to be down yeah and they want to keep that than hell. Yep, yep. But it does kind of like, it's a mind game. It's a, it's a total, it's a total mind game. And then it's something too, like, you get yourself worked up.

You think, like, you know, like, you know what? Like, I had a good week. I feel like I'm going to play and you get in that locker room. Wrong. And the dude, you think that, like, you've been playing way better than you've been seen him, you chewed out all week. He's up and you're not. And you got to go out there and do that stupid ass workout with all the inactive guys, All the enactive guys before the game. What was that workout like? Oh, man. Strenuous?

It's not strenuous, but it's just like, bro. I was out at the club last last. No, but then you still got to go to the hotel? Do you have to go to the hotel if you're not up? Like, yeah, yeah. Like, when we're in Jacksonville, everyone, all 53 is there. They wait until 10 o'clock PM, and then they're like, hey, you're down tomorrow. And then they're like, we're going to be checking your bed, though, in about 45 minutes.

check, bed check everything. And then you have to get to the stadium early enough to look at the board and check it out to see if you're up or not. And does it depend? It depends on the team whether or not they actually let the guys on the sideline or not. They have like a box for guys.

I've never been on a team, thank God. I think that, like, if you're going to do that, like, I just like, I don't, I'm not, I would rather just stay home. Oh, really? So I thought you're going to say, I want to be on the sideline. No, no, for sure. But like, if you're going to have me in this luxury suite,

then I'd rather be home. Yeah. Like, like, why do I have to say? have to go through traffic and do all this if you guys going to put me in the I agree give those guys a day off or or have them on the sideline but bottom line is when Pickens is down you kind of wonder what they look like he hadn't missed the game I don't think in his career as physical as he plays so you know Russ continuing to make good decisions spread the ball around we were talking on the ride in today it's like yeah people thought

he was dead last year I mean people thought he was dead yeah and and we were saying like what could the reason be well Arthur Smith could be part of it but I think sometimes like and I speculating when you get later in your career and the noise starts and you feel things changing with your body and you're just like I am 30 or I'm 31 32 you start changing shit depending like I tried a lot of shit late in my career I'm not talking about like steroids I would have looked a lot better but I just mean you try different training mechanisms you try different you know nutritional deals you change your mindset you might like start eating kale yeah you might start eating fucking kale you know what I'm saying and I don't know if Russ maybe went to Denver with a different mindset you just needed a change and and and just needed something

different and got the change for sure and I think Sean Peyton was probably a bad fit for him I don't think Sean Payton and him were a good marriage like and and that's okay because like look how good to it's like we talk about with with a divorce those two people might go be happy like elsewhere in different situations. It's the same thing with Sean Payton and Bo Nex and the same thing with you hate your guy, Bo Nex. And then one more game. You know, Russell up there. You know, look

at all these. A lot of guys get darnled. You know what I mean? You get dudes in fresh spots. It's like a whole new world out there. And there's, I feel like that's what Russ is doing in Pittsburgh. But he's got a great head coach, too. Like, I don't know how it's possible for people to still sleep on Tom on as much as they do because he's

fucking great, man. Like, he's a great coach. He is a great coach. He is a great coach. And one of the things I thought they did a good job of yesterday from a game plan standpoint is like, let's not let Miles Garrett wreck the game. He wrecked the game in the snow, like a couple weeks ago. And it's kind of like the Cardinals and the Seahawks getting ready to play Leonard Williams again. Okay, but I think that was a big deal. And then on the other side, you get High Smith back. Hayward has a couple sacks.

That dude for an interior lineman playing this well later with gray hair and his beard. I mean, dude's an absolute legend. Hey, you know who else had a big play? Keanu Benton, Nosegard, Wisconsin had a sweet pick. He did. Key play of the games. So did Alandon Roberts.

Landon Roberts knocked down a big fourth down and then you sent me a video last night. Because I've told you all this, Atlanta Roberts is one of the hardest hitters I've ever been around. The guy gave me a damn concussion and walked through. Okay? Binked me and walked through. Like, seriously. I had to tell Maddie P.

I was like, hey, I think I should probably take the rest of the day. Like, I'm really not trying to get out of reps this time. Like, I think I have a, you know. Oh, my goodness. Now, he blew up a pulling guard yesterday on the, on the TV copy. The noise. We can't play you video because the NFL is going to send a drone and kill me or something. Just airstrike.

It's like all of a sudden I said, you know, I'm seeing another podcast use video. I'm like, oh, maybe we can use video. they're like but can you play that noise for the microphone can you play the noise that Atlanta Robert and make sure I get that I want that to come through you're going to hear it everybody in the whole

people downstairs everyone was to go through the TV cop it's the last play the first quarter do you hear that run that back one more time that is the sound obliterated them oh like absolutely obliterated them

He is so physical. And wouldn't it been cool if you could have seen that? Wouldn't that help grow the game? We have listeners in Japan. We have people streaming in Yugoslavia. Wouldn't it grow the game if I could show them? They don't have Red Zone. They don't know what the fuck that is.

Why they worry about us? They got to go find meth streams and all of them. Mess streams? Yeah. Just make it all open source, just like the NBA does. And then you can show whatever you want. And everybody becomes a bigger fan. Craig down on Adam Schaefter.

dropping the mess stream stuff why you got to yell at us yeah don't yell at us yeah we're just the little podcast man yeah anyways yeah yeah so uh so you guys so the steelers the steelers the steelers have uh and this is a funny quote from james after the game he's like i don't think the pittsburgh dealers beat the cleveland browns i think the cleveland browns beat the cleveland brown and then and then uh you know the thing to remember here with with the steelers they got Philly, Baltimore, and Kansas City down the stretch. And Cincinnati in Week 18, if Cincinnati's cooked, right? But they could be like, oh, fuck you guys, we're going to ruin.

Steelers are one of the best teams in the league. If we were to power rank, let's go right now, power rank the teams in league. Power rank them. The lions are won. They've earned it. Okay. Chiefs, Bill's Eagles. Where do you put those three?

Eagles. Eagles. Eagles. I think the Eagles. Eagles. We're going to get to the Eagles. Eagles are like the inverse of the. chiefs. The team is

fantastic. The quarterback is up and down. Okay? The chiefs have one of the best quarterbacks on the planet and the team is kind of up and down. And so I don't really know, but I would put Philly ahead of Kansas City. Just because of the quality of the team. Yeah. Now, the bills

are the second best team in a league in my opinion. The Steelers have a, there is a case to be made that the Steelers are the third best team in a league. There is a case to be made. And a lot of that will be settled when Philly plays Pittsburgh to see how that matchup looks go to that game Chris let's go to that game. You like them over Minnesota? Who? Who, who, who, who, who? I did leave Minnesota out. Yeah, like, the Steelers. The Steelers, do you like them over? Yeah. I, bro, like,

honestly, I think this, they're right there. Well, how can we, I think the most interesting. Like a game like yesterday. It goes, Lions, Bills, and then those three, four teams, I, I, I don't know. Russ is playing so well. That's the point. Like Russ is playing so well, and I think that elevates them. I think there's like a confirmation bias with the Steelers in a negative way after watching them in the post-Brothersberger era where we're like, we can't take them seriously. The offense is just, if they ever play well, it's smoking mirrors.

Like they, this is a different group. Yeah. It really is. If Pickens is healthy, okay, the receiver core, this is the same group that was like, bet it over backwards, try to get a guy, right? And they did eventually in Mike Williams. But overall, with their defense, who I said is not dominant, but is a good defense, really good defense.

And the way that the offense is playing, they can win shootouts, they can win low-scoring games, they're one of the best coach teams in the league. When you get into a playoff scenario, Russ has been to a Super Bowl. You know, Russ has won a Super Bowl. Tomlin, been to a Super Bowl,

won a Super Bowl, T.J. Watt, the whole group on defense, they're battle tested. I think... And they're deep now with High Smith back. With High Smith back.

I look at them and I'm like, there's a lot of people I watch TV sometimes, which I hate to admit, I do. I watch these sports shows on TV. And it feels like some of the analysts

don't want to give the Steelers their due because they have this preconceived notion of who they were supposed to be. And it's so hard for them to believe that a team with a win total in the, you know, whatever it was, eight. Yeah.

Yeah, it's probably similar there. Could be this good. But guess what? We got the Russ thing wrong. We got the Russ thing wrong. We got the quarterback thing wrong. And the coordinator's actually still pretty damn good. The reason Atlanta hired him. Someone in the chat actually made a great point about Russ.

He's playing like he did back in 2015. He has a good defense. He isn't asked to beat the teams completely on his own. You know what I mean? And that's like. Andy is a complimentary running game. No question. He didn't have that in Denver, and he had that in Seattle.

It's a great point. Now, somebody made a point in the chat that the Vikings go 15 and 2 and people would be like, yeah, I don't know. I think it was a fluke. And I hear you. It's the same thing. They're the closest version to the Steelers in the NFC. These two teams are to be taken seriously.

And to me, they're in tier 1B. One A to me is Lions and Dam and Bills. and then 1B right behind them is a little grouping of teams that the Vikings and the Steelers are squarely in. And so are the Eagles and so are the Chiefs. And so, you know, Eagles fans could say, hey, we deserve to be higher. I'm sorry, the variability at quarterback right now scares me. Okay, now. Put the Packers in 1B and that 1B.

I don't think the Packers have beaten enough teams to be held in the same standard as Minnesota. I think they might be in that 1C. But the 1C, you can win a Super Bowl in 1C. this year. One seal win you a Super Bowl this year. I mean, like, who's the, Detroit's the wagon. Okay? Like, that, that's what it is. But, you know, you can find a way. You can, you can get there. You can get in the dance. You can get there. I mean, they just took Detroit at home to the wire. There's a lot of injuries on that team right now. So as we sort this thing out, just don't forget, like, Pittsburgh is legit. They're not, like, it's not a fluke. And to buddies point in the chat,

neither are the freaking Vikings who we're going to talk about in a second. But first, we should talk about Seattle and Arizona, as that was, as we move into the NFC, the biggest game when it came to playoff seating. I mean, because we're talking about a division here, which kind of the result of this game, look ahead to that Rams Seahawks week 18 game,

that's going to be off the chain. That's going to be for the division. Good chance. I want the Rams to get in so bad after that performance yesterday. I'll tell you, it's like last year when they snuck in. Yeah. Like they went to Detroit and gave that team who I still think, I still think they damn near, I thought Detroit should have been in the damn Super Bowl.

They just couldn't finish against San Francisco. They took that team to the wire in one of the most physical ball games of the year. Yeah. I mean, they are so tough. They are such a tough out if they can get in. and they play the way they played yesterday. Nobody wants to play them. So you talk about their opportunity to win the division.

It's there. But Seattle getting it done yesterday, and I thought the most impressive thing about Seattle is they've been looking over this run game, and Charbonnet gave it to him. Unreal. I mean, he was all. Yeah.

Dog. They're, he reminds me like Chris Carson. Their first half, they had 10 of their 14 runs for explosive runs. By far their best running game. all season. Yeah, they did it without Kenneth Walker in the lineup, too.

Which, you know, and they have shuffled people on the offensive line. You suspected maybe no one they found a winning combination. I don't know. I need to see it more than once, but this is more like Seattle has, it's a new head coach. They have slowly climbed into this thing where they start hot, but they beat some questionable teams, including the Bengals, I guess, right? Didn't they beat the Bengals early in the season? That feels like another, another, another era.

No, they didn't play since then. Oh, they didn't play. Who played? No, New England played them. So they beat, they beat New England. They beat Miami. They beat Denver. That was the start of the season.

We were kind of like, I don't know about this team. Then they get beat up by Detroit. And then they go on that streak where they lose five of six. And now you're looking at them in for a month straight. They've reeled off these wins. And most importantly, three out of the four have been in division. And those divisions stand. could really, really matter, like the in-division wins because they are potentially could be tied

with the Rams after week 18 and have one win and one loss apiece. So it could come down to division record, which is huge. So these are huge wins. And again, I want to make the point about the defense. Like, look at all the, look in that losing streak at how many points they were giving up. Look at this streak here against Arizona twice, New York once, and San Francisco once. And not to say they've been playing world beaters, but pretty impressive the way they've been able to keep the points down. And I think for the Cardinals on the other end of it, Kyler Murray, just not playing like the guy you want him to be. My hollow man, because he's not beating the allegations.

Oh, yeah, yeah. The new Call of Duty came out the last three weeks, he's been not good. Five picks. five picks and it's just even if he's not playing the game it just sucks now that is what if it's just like he's worried that people are thinking he's playing the game it's a whole mental mind fuck i don't think it's that i mean i think call a duty is an easy scapegoat but i think like as a year wears on he's proved to be a guy that down the stretch kind of fizzles now he has an opportunity late in this season to change all that but um you know cliff's gone you think his body maintenance

or like something that like he has to change for the back half of the season like getting a hyperbolic chamber more or i would i would like to see him in a hyperbolic chamber it's an exaggeratedly small it's not just a hyperbaric chamber it's like a tiny chamber it's basically where they put babies you know what i mean you know when they put babies in the in the incubator Yeah, me, Kyler. I think it's more, I think it's more, the book, the book, the book on this offense, kind of eventually teams catch up to it,

but I think also what you realize, like Kyler will make bad decisions if you make him earn it. And I also don't think I've talked about this a couple weeks in real. Like, I don't think they have the great man separator outside that, that they could use having. And, you know, Marvin Harrison Jr. is going to be a damn good player

in this league. but like some guys, you know, he's just not everybody, not everybody is a guy who's going to get a ton of separation. He's a bigger body, right? And so I'm not sure what happens. I'd have to be in the building to like really hear what's going wrong for them in the passing game. But the mistake he made against the Seahawks two weeks ago was huge. I mean, it's like that was such a boneheaded play.

I just don't know if he has, you know, when the play extends and you got to make a split second decision. I don't know if he's a split second decision guy. I don't know if he makes great decisions in split second moments, you know, and I don't know if that can change. But for the Seahawks, they have improved on defense, the baggers have improved, Leonard Williams have been playing great. They got a couple edge rushers who I like. They got cover guys outside. They have a coach on defense. reason he got hired is he's a great defensive mind so i i got to believe the defense is just going to

keep getting better and if gino can be consistent and they have a run game they've done all this without a run game and with the offensive line playing terrible and gino just playing okay mike mcdonnell plus two thousand for coach of the year yeah would have a lot would have to happen beginning of the season that was my pick for coach the year at the beginning of season well he's on the board i had uh you know him and gino are only three you know him and gino only three you know him and gino only three years apart. Really? Gino's 34 and Mike McDonald's

37. No way. Yeah, I just looked it up. McDonald just had a kid, by the way. Congratulations for him. Congrats. Yeah, come on.

We don't have to clap. We don't know the guys. Hey. But yeah, no, life is good. So, I thought this is just an impressive month from Seattle. Impressive.

And if you win the division, you host a playoff game. Next week. You talk about who do they play next week? They play, they got the buy. Oh. So, no, they got, they got Greenback.

Oh, sorry, we were looking at them. Packers, Vikings, Bears, Rams. Seven. I hope it. It's a tough stretch. Night game. I hope it rains. I hope it's like cold, wet rain for the Packers game.

Oh, for the Packers game and Greenback? Yeah. No, no, no. It's in Seattle. Yeah. No, it's in Seattle. It's in Seattle. Yeah.

Galley, dude. That, I'm God. I'm just sitting here thinking what the, what's the Minnesota a matchup look like because that's what it might end up being. You know what I mean? And I think Minnesota against this offensive line bringing pressure

you know that could be a real challenge for these guys. Yep. Sorting blitzes and games and all the movement up front. It'll be interesting to see where the Minnesota run defense is at that point. And that's part of it. Okay we're going to talk. Let's talk about him right now. Go ahead. Did you talk

about Zach yet? Sharpenaga. Yeah. Charminet? Yeah, that's my game ball. Gameball Charbonnet. Yeah, I call him Chardonnay. Pop the court. Pop the court.

22 carries, two tuddys. Well, out of the backfill, I like him out of the backfield. He's seven receptions, 59 yards. I like a reesling. Do you? No. I like Asavi B. A savvy B boy.

Still beacing off the reesling. I don't drink wine, so this is all 301. Before we move on, I had, I had Cial one. for best flight to just big indivision win not a not a super long flight yeah good um okay let me let me let's hit eagles panthers before we hit viking's falcons yay yeah um shit where do we begin i got a fly on the wall for this oh this was my too go ahead go ahead go guys in a split screen Go ahead, bro. 3.1.

Hey, you got to be quicker than that, Pat. 3.1 million dollar bet on the birds. Why on the wall? Like, how was this guy feeling late in that game? Sway. I want to know the details behind us. Yeah, exactly. Dude, when Xavier Legate dropped that ball,

okay, I'll just say this. This game was bookended by two misplayed balls by wide receivers for the Panthers. I mean, there was a shot early in this game where Bryce is scrambling. Everybody's in front of the receiver. Guy loses the ball. It's like the end of the game, Leggette dropping the ball. I think if the Panthers had better receivers, they win this game. Now, you could probably say that, you could probably say that for the two weeks prior.

You know, but it felt like in this game, and Adam Thieland played his ass off. Cooper, Coonerty has played great all year. I don't know what the final tally looks like for closest defender stats on him yesterday, but I thought The Ealing got the better of that matchup. And, you know, tip of the cap to a vet, man. Like I said in my live show last night, he met his KG white, white on white crime, old white nemesis there. And Theelan, who's got a big enough body to really press him a little bit and create space for himself. And he's cagey.

and he's been playing really well in Carolina. The fourth and two that he caught off a deflection was wild. But overall, I think the theme of this game, if you're an Eagles fan, is like, what are we going to get out of the quarterback week in and week out? Do you want me to be honest? Yes. I worry.

I really do. This is a very good team. This team is an incredible team. The roster is. I talked to John Clark from Philly last week in an interview, and I was like, I think the defense has a chance to be better than the defense that we had in 17. And like, honestly, the only reason I'm not saying they are

is because I don't want to disrespect our group. Like, you got to go do it. But this defense is on paper is probably better, you know, with the guys in the back end and the linebackers. I think the offense with the addition to Saquoan, Barclay, J. Brown, Devonte Smith, you have basically two number one wide receivers. you got a tight end who's one of the best in the league who was hurt yesterday and maybe that makes a huge difference

you got an offensive line that i'd take over almost any group in the league right um the quarterback has to play well and i don't want tiptoe around it like i respect jalen hurts he's done amazing things in his career that MVP caliber season was awesome but we haven't seen the same level of sustained success from the guy now he's winning a lot of football games is not turn the ball over which has been very good. But in a game like yesterday, I felt like the timing was so bad in so many situations. And that's a team that, you know, honestly, some guys have put on their highlight tape this year. And so I don't know what it is. I don't know if it was the fact that the, the, the, the Panthers had a great game playing. They took away the RPO's. They blitzed a lot on second down. They brought Joe, he still doesn't know.

Josie Jules coming, you know, coming on second down. And I still don't know. And I still don't don't think they figured out how to find a hot you know like there was a quarterback draw where he ran into the back of some guy I just felt like things weren't clicking yesterday for him and if it were just one game that'd be fine but we've seen games like this before and so listen part of me as an analyst is like I love the Eagles I love the team I respect the guys I respect the quarterback I really do he's a he's a leader he plays his ass off but I kind of get caught in this position where I'm like, I don't want to be the guy that says the quarterback's a problem

because that turns you into like some media guy. I'm not trying to be media guy, but I'm going to be honest. The quarterback worries me a little bit. Am I? Sound a little bit like A.J. Brown right now, Chris. And I don't even want to say that A.J. Brown was saying it was all Jalen. I think if I wanted to give him it out,

he was probably talking about the passing offense in general, which comes, the game playing comes into question, the timing, the route tree, the route combinations, you know, when you're calling passes. I thought they could have run the ball every play, and Saquan would have gone for 300 yards. But I think it's one of those games where you're like, come on, I'd like to see the quarterback get going a little bit.

You want to use this opportunity to get him in a rhythm going into stretch run here. And I thought the timing was just, just at times atrocious. And I can't really speak to why that is. He's a hell of a thrower of the football. When he knows where to go with the football, outside the numbers, deep, middle of the field, whatever it is.

But I think there's some second guessing going on right now, some processing stuff that, frankly, for a guy who's been in a league this long, I'd like to see him be a little further on, further head on. Am I being unfair, chat? No. You know? No, that's exactly how it played out yesterday. And I agree.

I think like the bread and butter of this offense is Saquan and the run game, that's what it's going to be. But this is why we talk about like a team like Detroit and how complete they are offensively and like the way they can score in multiple ways because, you know, especially once you get to the playoffs, everything's matchup dependent. So you get into a game with a really good rushing defense. Now all of a sudden, the quarterback's got to make plays. and the way he played yesterday, you worry. So let me ask you this.

You get in the playoffs in the NFC. The Rams are in. The Packers are in. You know, the Vikings are in. I don't know. We just go down the list. Where does he rank in the, you know, like when you're going into the dance,

where do you rank him as far as like quarterbacks? Because these games come down to coaching and quarterbacks. A lot of the times. And so, you know, they have, again, built this amazing record on the strength of a damn good roster. And I think Nick should be commended for his winning percentage and the way he's motivated guys. And like, you can tell they like him, you know. And that's not an underrated thing. Like to be liked and respected as a head coach to communicate well with you.

When I talk to players and ask him about Nick, they say he's a great communicator. Well, that makes a lot of sense because he's not calling plays. you got to have some skill set. To me, I always say being a communicator as a coach is way up there. So there's a reason this team has played as well as they have for as long as they have. It's not all the players, but the roster's amazing. I mean, they're like an all-star team in some respects. The quarterback man, you know, like, and I don't think it's even like throwing the ball 20 times a game.

A lot of people read into AJ's comments is that. because they've been doing that. You know, this was different. This felt different because he didn't play well. And I think that's why people are looking at AJ's comments and triangulating that maybe it is about the quarterback. I'm not saying that. Look how excited they were to block for Sequin Barclay last week

on some of his long runs. It's not like they threw the ball 30 times in that game. So the result, if it's good enough, they're okay with it. But if they're out of sync, and that's what it was, it felt like every time they had to throw, and it could have been an RPO. It could have been something. It could have been a screen.

They were blowing up screens. Maybe it's predictable. You know, maybe people are catching up a little bit to the early down tendencies of the Eagles. But I also think the quarterback's not processing fast enough. Just be honest. And I mean no ill will against the guy. I got a lot of respect for him. But he's got to play better.

The defense played well. Listen, you know, that team took you to the wire. young has been playing really good football and again that is probably the bigger story to me like the Eagles that's being right he's been the way he's bounced back this season man and that actually has him is my best seat which is maybe a little surprising after a loss but look at the way the season started from right your bench for Andy Dalton your girl is seen publicly dating other people you're down bad okay and now you're coming out you're playing well last couple weeks you're kind of putting it together down this stretch building for the future

in Carolina. And then he also just seems like a good guy. Like you see who is it that got hurt for the birds. CJ, G.J. Yeah. Bryce, he's praying over him. Like, that's not fake.

Like, he's just a good dude. So, like, I'm happy for Bryce here to come along. Chris, I know, you know, Hertz could have had a better day, but like the most important stat for me from the Eagles yesterday for John Hertz is they're 11 and 2. Hey, they were what last year at this point? That's true.

What were they? So, you know, somebody in the chat said, hey, listen, you can win with a mid-quarterback, and I'm not calling Jalen Hertz mid, but what I am saying is I agree with you, you know, but it's just harder. You have to work around it in some situations. If he's not playing great ball. Nick Foles, you can say summarily was a mid-quarter. If you want to say that, I don't think he was a mid-quarterback.

I would look at his heights. His heights were, like, he had the year with Chip Kelly. He had the year with the Super Bowl year. Like, he played out of his mind in the playoffs. we didn't win with a mid-quarterback. We won with a great quarterback because that's what he was playing like. He was playing like a Hall of Fame quarterback.

Now he's not a Hall of Famer, but he was playing for a month like he was fucking Joe Montana. And part of that was he was running the hell out of the offense and they really had it cooking. And a lot of things that ironically people are caught up to now is like whether it's the RPO's or whatever. Like we took the league by storm on a lot of that stuff.

So I think, yeah, I agree with you. You can win with imperfect quarterback play, but the quarterback, the quarterback has to at least play, you know, you look at Carolina the last couple games. Baker Mayfield finished 11 to 12, helped them win that game against Carolina. Patrick Mahomes led them on a game-winning drive. I don't know if Xavier Legate catches that touchdown

if we're going to win that game, you know? And part of that is because I don't, I don't really know what the quarterback's seeing or not seeing. So anyways. I think a couple of defense. And the Jake Elliott thing. If Jake Elliott's playing well, you kick the ball to go up nine and it's and probably you're not even in that situation.

And maybe we're not talking about it. But I still think you're watching this game and saying we need to play better in the passing game. That's clear. They're not coming out of this game and saying Jake Elliott. They're coming out of this game and talking about the passing game. And I think he missed an extra point in a field goal. Yeah. Right?

You get your worst. They were able to go for two on the other day after the extra point. Yeah. Okay. So here's the deal. We're a seat on topic of Jake Elliott. Young lady got hit in the face with the ball. Jake Elliott missed a field goal like real bad. I don't even think she was like expecting to get hit with the ball. Is it bad that I don't feel bad for her? Depends. Give me the reason. I'm with you. I'm with you. If you're at a football game, the one thing you should be paying

attention to is the football. Keep your eye on the ball. And to get hit in the face is kind of like. Like, how? Yeah. Like, if you can get your face on it, you should be able to catch it, you know? No question. Exactly. Exactly.

Like, I feel bad for me. No, no, no, I'm coming around. I'm coming around. Like, catch the ball, right? Put your hand up, like something. Pay attention. You probably would be upset at your kids. If you're at a game and the ball's coming and you look down and the ball hit them and you're like,

you're not looking? Oh, no, I wouldn't be upset with my kids. But an adult woman who should probably be able to like, like, she might have been looking at her phone, honestly. That's my theory. Because that ball's, I mean, it's barreling down on you for 40 yards. Everybody around you is probably reaching the ball. It's trying to catch the ball. What happened?

And I, you know, like, hey, Marsha, Marsha. I hope you feel better. No, that doesn't feel good. But the kicking game's not great right now. And the quarterback needs to play better. The defense is playing lights out for the most part. thought Jalen Carter was really disruptive. He blew up a screen.

He had a couple of those plays in the red zone against the run that were just awesome. Zach Bond adding as a rusher. Carter's an agent of chaos, too. Zach Bond was rushing on a guard. He hasn't aged in chaos. That was a nice move. That was a nice rush. Six pressures for Jalen Carter.

Four in the first quarter. I love it. Yeah, so. We're on the first drive. There's a lot to love. And Carolina's turned into a team that's playing people close. So again, it's not that they beat them close. This game was this close to being 3017,

which is kind of what we thought it would be. Yeah. You ever seen a losing streak and fire this much confidence? What? Panthers? Yeah. I don't know. Honestly, I feel like this, Panthers fans are waking up this morning,

like, damn, we got a franchise quarterback. You're David Tepper. Do you tell your GM we're sticking with Bryce Young next year? Oh, yeah. Yes. Not to get out over our skis here, but like, watch the tape the way the guys played the last month. The play extension, the on target throws, the good decision making.

He threw a pick yesterday, but that was his first pick in 127 attempts or something. This team is playing their. Just like clutch performance. Yeah. Like he's making plays late in the game. He led them down the field. Right. They have a chance to win that damn bucks game if defense plays better at the end of the game.

And then they fumbled. You know, and the Chiefs went on a field goal. So he doesn't really have the ball last in any of those scenarios. And then he has the ball last yesterday. He puts it right on Xavier Leggett, and he drops the ball. The last five games, one-score games. So they're building something there, which is really encouraging. Let's see how David Tepper fucks it up.

Falcons Vikings. Falcons Vikings, man. I got a worse seat. for this. Yeah. Worst seat. Kirk-O-Chains. He's trying to walk into the trap,

take over the trap, no dice. Walk into yo trap. New. Throw you. A girlfriend. Dude, Kirk has thrown eight picks

in zero TDs over the last four games. That same stretch, Sam Darnold is, 11 TDs, zero interception. Worst seed, coming back to your old team

and just getting basically embarrassed by the likes of Sam Darnel. There was a fan that had a sign. it said we'll never forget you Kurt C-U-R-T that's so good it's hilarious that is funny right right never forget you Kurt dude do you think do you think Michael Pennix is just not performing well no no I think this might have been I think we might be talking about Pennix this week Rahim after

the game was like no curse their quarterback and the whole thing and I thought he improved a lot from the week before but the week before was like hideous yeah so I think we might see Pennick But the thing is, as a result of this game, is like, the bucks are in the driver's seat. Yep. You know? Minus 250 to win the division. Falcons still plus 185. And that's a lot of the reason I damn picked the bucks was because of the Falcons.

I mean, it's like the Falcons are the Falcons, man. There's just something in their DNA. But it's also the fact that you take a big swing in a quarterback. And, you know, obviously the guy's not healthy. Yeah, I feel bad for, I really do feel bad for a guy like Kyle Pitts. A lot of people are going to say, who cares, he's getting paid a lot of money. He's a high draft pick. But, you know, I'm seeing, hey, look where all these guys are, look at all these other guys that were drafted ahead of him or after him or whatever in that draft class.

Look at the quarterbacks that Kyle Pitts has played with now, you know. Does a winner. Yeah. I mean, that should be enough. But then you get Kirk and there's all these high hopes for, hey, look. listen the fourth and five early in the game which i thought was one of the biggest turning points to me where you're up seven nothing you're trying to go up two scores on the road which would have allowed them to play their script because iven pace being

down has really changed the the way they play the run in minnesota and you know they have a nice little rushing attack so if they go up two scores in that situation i don't know but fourth and five they go don't blame them um Kyle pits is outside on metellus and he stacks him he's open And I don't even think Kirk's looking at him because he can't get the ball outside the numbers. And, you know, he goes to, I think, McLeod. And next thing you know, Addison, on a shot, which became the theme of the day.

But there were a couple opportunities for the Falcons here. I think that fourth down, and then there was a fourth and two that they opted not to go. And then the next thing, you know, Justin Jefferson touchdown. So it was just that kind of game where they had some opportunity,

And then obviously when they tie it up at 21 and Kirk pointed this out after the game Falcons fans don't want to hear this from. But he's like, hey, listen, I felt pretty good about how we were playing when we tied it up at 21 and I can get the ball back until it's 35, 21. As much that sucks, you know, to hear from a quarterback who's played as poorly as he has. Like, how about like, I just played, I'm not playing well. He's right. And, you know, they tricked the game off. So, you know, Kirk early in the game, some in cuts. We said he would hit him if the Vikings didn't change anything.

And that's been a theme playing the Vikings. He was still hitting the stuff in the middle of the field, but at times it just looked a little like shaky. You know, and so I think at this point, you really do have to have a real conversation about Michael Pennix. Now, what do you hope to gain? I'm not sure. You know, you can't, it's not like a red shirt ear.

You can't burn it. Well, their next two games, they have the Raiders Giants. It's a soft landing spot. You might have a spark. And honestly, the pass rush for this group has picked up over the last week. Two games in a row. But I want to talk about Sam Darnal. I want to talk about Sam Darnal because we've gone too long talking about the losing team.

The Vikings are so impressive to me. Just the consistency, man. Sam has become part of the reason they're winning these games. I think there was a big question when he was in that lull, Jackson, was kind of the epicenter where he throws three picks that win like 12-7, where you're like, ah, is the old, old Sam coming out. I think when the old Sam comes out is when he's not paired with Kevin O'Connell. Kevin O'Connell's going to get a lot out of this guy.

Like, Kevin's a hell of a coach. The way that I think Miami elevates Tua, and I think Sam's better, but like this offense elevates quarterbacks. I mean, to know, and I want to give Sam his, props his athleticism to get out of trouble i think is what separates him the last thing i'm going to call him as a game manager i think people were we're we're thinking of oh if it works in minnesota for sam he'll probably be like a game manager he's been the reason that they made a lot of these plays he's gotten out of trouble his legs not only that like the shots they're not all dimes

but he knows when to take the shot he knows where the matchup is Kevin gets him there and he and he makes it happen off script on on script whatever it is and i think to come into this game and say hey we like the matchups on addison we're going to feed this dude kirk um or uh kirk justin also had a big game you know so the passing game for them is is is pretty damn versatile spread out they've got t j hawkinson you know erin jones the whole thing this is a tough group to play against it really is and so they deserve a lot of respect going to the playoffs they've only lost two games in the nifes NFL. It's December. I'm impressed. Everybody should be talking about this team. So just a really impressive win by them. And for Sam, awesome. I don't think you're going to get that performance

every week, but love seeing it. Yeah, I love that Greg also noted. I think it was after one of the touchdowns where Donald escapes pressure hits Justin Jefferson down the field. He kind of highlighted the skill set differences between Sam and Kirk and the ability to make plays off schedule and hopefully they've been the beneficiary of what he can do this season. And the other conversation, which I started to have on the live show, but I don't know if people are ready for it is like San Francisco is getting ready to pay Brock Purdy. Who do you like better, Brock or Sam? Brock.

I like Sam. I mean, we are kind of riding the wild. way saying Sam but I think Brock's look I mean he's good at times too when he's had the right how do you not take a run at him now like I know they have Daniel Jones on the roster is a little bit of a stop gap I guess and he's getting paid by the giants and all that but like this is your guy you're 11 and 2 you're rolling if you're if you're a Vikings fan like how are you not pushing for them to resign darnal only if you know that jj is better only if you absolutely know that jay's better you could get a boatload for Sam Darnold right now.

I don't think that's what they should do. In my opinion, the guy leads you to the playoffs. And I think a lot of it might get decided in the playoffs. If he goes to Seattle and lays an egg, then the conversation is wide open. But if he has them in the NFC championship game, they're building something. You know what I mean? Kirk got him to the never got him in the NFC championship game. You know, never got him there.

When they got there and played us, it was Case Keenham. So there's something about this group. If they can make a playoff run, I do think you have to look hard at keeping Sam. Yeah. You know, at least for another year, right? I mean, does Sam Donald give the Vikes a little bit of a team-friendly deal? I mean, think about, or is he chased the bag? I don't know.

He should never. Never chased the best. He's not going to, but I'm saying, like, think about how much improvement he's made under KOC and how big that has been for him. You know, I'm sure it's, it's got to be the, like, the most fun football he's ever played. I mean, he probably doesn't want to go anywhere else. But like, let's say they moved on from Sam. And they were like, hey, we love JJ.

Who would take a big swing at Sam Darnold? And who would you like to see him with? The Raiders. Miami. Miami would be fun, dude. Miami would be really fun. You're talking about teams with quarterbacks, not the Raiders, but Miami's locked up. Two have a lot of football left.

The Titans? It's like he's going to go to the Titans and the Titans with Sam Darnal is not, you know, the Vikings with Sam Donald. Dude, honestly, the Seattle Seahogs. Yeah. Seattle Seahogs. I think we talked a little bit about this, Gino, the possibility of them moving on from him next year. He's going to bring it back to the Jets. Yeah, Gino back to the Jets.

Little trying. No, Darnell. Or Sam Darno back to the Jets. Yeah, to your point. That would be incredible. But why would you ever want to go back to that organization? You would never go back to that organization. No amount of money.

No amount of money. Rather be a P squad player for Minnesota. I would only like, maybe he doesn't have a choice in this thing. But like, you know, Sam Darnold, and I said people trade for him, but he's on a one-year deal. Yeah. So they're not going to trade for him. He's going to end up in like New Orleans. So if I was him, the only place I'd want to go is like somewhere with a really good.

offensive scheme. Like I'm not going anywhere with with some dog shit coordinator or some right I'm not chasing the bag after this experience. I might chase in Minnesota but I wouldn't go out like and to the market and think like I need a payday. He was a high pick. He's got money. He just wants to win. He wants to prove that he can play which he's gone a long way to doing this year. So I'm psyched for him. Last thing on the Vikings are you at all worried about they've been one of the top run defenses in the league. but ooh somebody just made a good point in the chat sorry shoot um somebody said jonathan a said the rams of stafford retires yeah that would be great i mean it's the same it's a pretty similar scheme right it's a yeah similar enough yeah i mean it's hey branch of the tree and you got

puka the gm is history of saying fuck them picks fuck them pit trade the farm yeah so and you got a run game with kairn the future is bright for him somebody also just threw up out Stefansky. The Browns. The Browns. It'd be a lot of fun. Do you have to piss as well? Nice.

I'm not the only one in here. But you had said New Orleans. I didn't think that was a bad idea either. Like, Coobee actually a good coordinator. But they're in Cap Hell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like they're going to rebuild. The last place I'd want to go is like be a part of a rebuild when I just

tasted that. Yeah, yeah. You know? If you're the Vikings, you have to think, like, Bo's saying, like, this is our guy. Like, he's played like it. And it's, like McCarthy looked good in the preseason, but there's still an uncertain commodity, you know? Not a bad example. Do you move McCarthy?

Do you move McCarthy? Maybe down the line. No. No, develop. Right now. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. For a year.

You don't need to. It's a luxury. For a year. Exactly. But after a year, you got to think that you're the Vikings. Yeah. You're going to take care of Sam Darnold, but maybe not to the extent of a team chasing. You know what I mean?

Like maybe you can come to. Right. You know, some sort of mutual understanding where you're not paying them. A mutual understanding. Paying him. You could trade him. It's just a week draft. Right.

That's what I'm saying. People could overpay for DJ. No, I don't. What do you mean? You just said, hey, Sam's our guy. If Sam's your guy, then what do you need to know? If you're like, I'm pretty sure Sam's our guy. Then sure.

It's an even bigger luxury. I understand having a backup quarterback is a really nice thing. But let's say, you've set up like a green base situation and then hypothetical. Yeah, but he's not. There is. forget about that uh 26 20 yeah yeah he's no no 27 yeah he's 27 yep which he's crazy you're gonna you're gonna couch you're gonna couch j j mccarthy for four years what if he's not good yeah yeah i i hear you i just think it's so hard to find a good starter that when you have one to let him walk is almost like

inconceivable you know especially do you know that okay you're talking about sam darnell oh i agree let's say we agree on this thing yeah then my point is like inside if somebody wanted to send over like a good some good capital for june because this is a weak class and they loved his day and they know he's come up under kOC he's probably a ready made young pro quarterback like you're taking that in my opinion now both says hang on to him he says hold on a minute i just don't think that they're going to get anything worthwhile for him i don't know that's that's a first time pick from i mean that they guaranteed really i guess the other the other side of the cool there's It's a weak quarterback, Jeff.

Who would, who would, who would, yeah? It'd have to be somebody, I'm trying to think of who it would be. It's one in the same conversation, I guess. But yeah. Yeah, exactly. So anyway, super interesting. What are the odds at KOC for Coach of the Year? Because that's the other thing.

It's like, are, if you're the Vikings, are you? He's second. He's second. He's second. In to what he is now, we can, plus 400. Yeah, plus 400. You know what the beautiful thing is? he's not going anywhere.

You know, that's why you have an offensive coach to be your head coach, you know, like more often than not, because you're not going to lose the guy. As long as he's there, quarterback play will be decent. And at times, if you have a guy like this, it'll be great.

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Neum. Starting with Bucks Raiders. Be my guess, guys. Bower. I had this record. Worst flight. Really? Flit, Raiders, going back to Las Vegas.

You get Aiden O'Connell injured. Like, kind of a weird little situation there. I think that the question I have, and I don't have an answer to it, honestly, is, do you feel like Antonio Pierce has ever had a shot? I know he hadn't been great, but has he ever really had a fair shake? No. Look at their quarterback play, man. Yeah. This year, they've got to.

nothing they have no one to work with like i love minchu i think minchew's awesome like i think he's like he's like a dude that you just want to be around you know what i mean like in your locker but as your starting quarterback how do you can't win with aden o'connell and mingham seems like an organized tank job it does like if you can do it the right way whereas you're owner you could be like well like it just didn't play out the guys are still playing hard which is what you want to see with a coach on, you know, the team is struggling. But you got to wonder if like with Tom Brady looming and like some of the, some of the high, high quality decision makers in the building that have Mark's ear,

like what they're telling him. You know, like, hey, he's not doing a great job. You can do better. And you probably could do better. Like there are better coaches out there. And that's part of it is like, is it fair to Antonio to talk about him being on the seat when they've given him nothing and Devante Adams left and they're down to like a third string running back and you know defense is not that talented it's just not a lot of good things

going for that group you know but on the other hand there are going to be good coaches in every hiring cycle you know and he hasn't he certainly hasn't been great some of the clock management stuff has been a little bit if he and some of the the decision making has been if he he's also showed a lot of humility for what that's worth like every time he's asked about that stuff which i think lends itself to a guy who's probably willing and able to learn but it hasn't got a lot better the point i'm making is i don't think he's had a fair shake of it and i feel for him i really do yeah so you would you would you would expect i don't know what i do i don't know what i expect the raiders to do this is truly an open-ended question and raiders fans if there's any in the chat let us know what do you

think it does does that's probably the uncomfortable truth that's personally what i think it reminds me of what the texans what the texas did the levy which it just unfortunately it happens to a lot of black coaches i just say that some people that might not like hearing that but and uh it it does suck maybe he'll do like a lovey type thing at the end of the year which was one of my favorite things of all time when lovey basically delivered them c j stroud although now with the way bryce y I'm playing. But who do the Raiders play? They have a chance to get the first pick in the draft.

And at that point, I bet you they go Shador Sanders. I just feel like that's like when Dion's at like a banquet with Antonio Pierce. Thank you God. He's like after every loss. They draft my sons. You know? Ador Sanders. Yeah.

He tweets that after every Raiders loss. Thank you God. I'm not saying that's the right pick, but it just feels like that might be what it is. Like they're definitely going to be hunting a quarterback. Him and Brock Bowers. Kind of fun. Getting good together. Kind of fun.

Brock Bowers is a fucking dog. He's got to be rookie year. He's amazing. He can win. He could be second. He's so good. Was Jeremy Shockey like a baller in his rookie year? Yes.

He was? Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Jeremy Shockey has been, yeah, he was a problem early. And Michael Mayer on that team. Michael Mayor Brock Bowers Those are two bad boys

Anyways I just I feel for this group And I feel for Antonio But the business is the business And we are going to be having these conversations So the bucks though As Macon said When he gave out the bucks

They're a professional outfit You know Yeah So they I'm really impressed With the way they've handled They've been Liam Cohen's done a great job Baker's done a really good job Todd Bowles continues to be.

They had a different cast of characters scoring too on Sunday. It's good to see Jalen McMillan get going. Yeah. I was hoping to see more of Mike because I want Mike to like keep that street going. Yeah. And I fucking love Mike Evans. Like I think he is so fucking good for real. Like I love Mike.

You haven't given a man crush. Really good tie down. You don't, you don't have any man crushes, huh? It's a white thing to have man crushes, huh? Yeah. It probably is. Damn, Vax isn't biting on anything.

He's not biting on anything. I thought fax was going to go off on the air stuff. What's your hottest take? What do you mean? Do you have any really hot takes from yesterday? No, I had a, I told it. It was my girl's birthday, so I was like occupied for a lot of the day. Got to keep the hot takes to a minimum.

Yeah. The hot takes I have are not for. Not fully formed? It's not. I got a man crush on the CEO, the CEO, uh, man crush Monday, the CEO assassin. Oh my god What?

He said the CEO assassin What? Why? That's why man crushed Monday You didn't see what they had in the bullets Why? Hold on why Dude the whole

I mean Okay somebody's gonna be like And you didn't ask him to explain himself Explain yourself Everybody in the chat Somebody gets assassinated Objectively a very bad thing Okay

That's just you know Just so we're very clear on that A lot of this is me fucking around. Do you need another shovel? That whole thing. He rides, he rides off on a city bike. He's flirting with baristas at Starbucks. Was that really him? He doesn't know. We don't know. No, he was a totally different. Yeah. That was the Starbucks guy, I think, was different. He's wearing a different shirt, I got a man crush on him too. You have a car. You have a crush on a guy at Starbucks who looks like an assassin. I thought it was it, man. The whole saga though, is incredible.

is it incredible that's unbelievable Sean McDermott we said he looks like a guy that would be walking through Central Park in a hoodie he looks like a composite sketch so anyways I don't know what these health care

CEOs are doing but anyways do the right thing do the right thing you know there's a San Francisco Chronicles article going around you know when you see San Francisco Chronicles is basically that guy, the wood from the pandemic, you know, the wood from pandemic, the guy sitting on the bed with his,

that would be a hidden link thing. Yes. There was one that was like a second CEO was murdered. Man, we were sending that everywhere. Did you send that? That's what he did. Brian was like, no way, this is crazy. It's an uprising.

Oh, fuck you, Reed. Hey, my wife was sending that to people. I said that there was somebody last night she was like, I don't think she liked it. Oh, man. So funny. I sent it to a friend of mine and he was like, wow, it's crazy. And I was like, but it's really like, I could tell you didn't click it. And then I was like, oh, it's really crazy how they caught him if you click the link.

And then he's like, I will. I'm at my company's holiday parties. I'll click it after. And then I was like, I gave the game away. I was like, don't click it. Don't click it. I used to send that guy, RIP to the wood. I used to send that guy to like.

like Eagles offensive meetings. I would like send it to Stoutland and people that I knew that were like in there discussing things. There's a documentary about that picture. What? What's, there is? Yes, about that guy.

It was for like a gay like photo shoot for a magazine. Really? And like the photographer, rest of peace, the guy who's actually in the picture is dead. Yeah, that's what I said. RIP would. Wood.

His name was Wood. Sometimes he would faint. Sometimes he would faint. The photographer talked about how, like, basically him being, like, the new Rickroll or, like, the meme joke. Like, he's making a bunch of money because he was the one that took that picture. He's, like, the royalties for the photographer. Oh. That's his, it's his intellectual property.

It's his IP. It's his IP. That's kind of fucked up. All right. So from the wood to the Jags game, which we'll be, we'll go very fast on the Jags game. Was this the worst football game of the season? Yes. The most least entertaining.

Like there weren't even chaotic things that happened. Other than like Will Levis getting drilled at the end of the first half, and I was like, oh, he's dead. Oh. Josh Hines-Ollum killed him. Man. I was like, there's no way he's coming back again. Come on.

You're coming around on this. Will Levin's kind of tough. He's like, you know who he's like? Who? Is it Tyson Fury, the big guy that was like when they was fighting and he was like almost knocked out, like got an eight count and he just rises up? Yeah. Yeah.

back out there for another round that was wild i got a hand it to him he got hit really hard was his throwing shoulder bro not that he's doing a great job with the throwing shoulder generally yeah maybe that'll help him bro rook at year like when you get hit like that is it's just like your teammates fucking up that bad or you just don't like like i don't know as a quarterback watching tape of you like just getting him blindside it's dude i think he seems like he's got a really good attitude i'll just say that. I know you've lost my balls about saying that I just want to, the guy could show a lot worse of

an attitude for what he's been through and what he's done. Some of that's his fault. But I just hate to see Mack Jones win. I really do. I'll admit it. And it was crazy at the end of the game. It was crazy at the end of the game because imagine being shot con and be like, hey, we're going to pick even higher. No, you're not because you're going to find a way to win a 10-6 ball game.

The last play of the game was fourth and 15 and levist drop back to pass and threw the ball right to a Jacksonville guy and he just dropped it. And if you watch the guys in the field, they were like, all right. That's why this is my, this is my. Like, there's not even like a let's, let's fucking win, when, you know, I'm not questioning the desire, but the atmosphere is flat there. Anti-bevel. This just the entire game like top the bottom just wasn't, wasn't good, wasn't it.

Oh, by the way, Bebble Conway is probably Chiefs. Chargers. Oh, beautiful. Yeah. You said that probably. Yep. Okay.

Fuck me. All right. Last one or second of last one. Yeah. Dolphins Jets. Here's my takeaway from this game. The Jets, they,

they, it's in there, somebody said it after the game. I think it was Garrett Wilson. It's in their DNA to lose. Yeah. He was like, I don't know if it's like a DNA thing.

And they have just found ways to lose football games. And now they've missed the playoffs 14 years in row. It's the longest streak in major sports. Can you all guess the three teams that are next on the list? NFL teams? No, major sports. Major sports.

Current droughts? Detroit Pistons. You won't get the second one. It's a hockey team. Detroit Pistons. No. The New York Islanders. No, this is going to take a while.

I'll give you the first one, the Buffalo Sabres. Oh, they've news to me. They've had a 13-year playoff drought. Wow. And I was surprised by this. I don't watch baseball. The Angels? Oh,

that Mike Trout? Those are all the jokes because it's like Mike Trout goes three for four with four home runs. All that Otani. And Oh, hot Otani is this. And the angels lose five years. You know who does spend money? Fucking a net. The Mets.

Oh, yeah. Worst feet, Yankees fans. First seat me, dude, last night. Tanner is like, Tanner's like. He hates the Mets. He's like. And I love Monsoto. Just the, like, the worst.

Like, I don't know how to feel because, like, he's a Nats fan. Yeah, like. You feel good. You feel good. Your boy just got $750,000. No, no. I got to play him all year.

Like, that's the main. He's going to be beating. Tanner's going to have a family, and he's going to be at, like, the fucking, he's going to be at Ruby Tuesdays watching the game, and he's going to be like, still. He's still tormenting me. So if you're one of your favorite players goes to the team you hate, Like, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, yeah, I gave it a day. And now I'm thinking, like, if there's a way I could clone myself and then do a murder suicide. My God.

I could kill myself twice. Shouldn't be laughing. Jets at the Dolphins. Oh, my bad. Sorry. No, Tanner, it's okay. Nobody's it. People can't get mad at you. They even know what you look like. You know what I'm saying?

He's wearing a Nats hat. He's a guy in a Nats hat. Yeah. That's the L. Memorial in this game. Malik Washington. That is creative, though, what he just said. It is. Like, it's comedy.

It's not, no one's being, but that's very creative. Yeah. Didn't sleep much last night, put it that way. He was putting the LeBron Times Hennessy in his coffee this morning. Yeah. Imagine no offense caring about baseball this month. That's a strong start to the Monday. Yeah. Because when you care about baseball, you really, it's 162

games of this shit. Yeah, it's terrible. Yeah. Okay, so Johnny Smith, didn't catch the ball the whole game. He's been one of the most clutch players for Miami this year. He honestly, had they not, had two and not been down, they'd be in the thick of it in the wild card probably. Although I still think

when they play good teams, they, they will. But Jonu has been so clutch for them would have been even more clutch had they been able to use him the whole year the way Tua's used him in crunch time at tons like also a lot of special moments for him this year like throwing the ball up in the air and his kid catches it and then they go to him for like 50 yards in overtime he hasn't even touched the ball so um jets eliminated it's over dolphins fire in the mix seven and eight their last two games will be in super cold weather so uh and against whom the browns and somebody else i got to check love it let's let's check where did the jets

play the last two games the um rogers does it doesn't rogers still has to play rogers he has to play for a new contract i thought at times yesterday he looked mobile and like he was bought in i mean there if you didn't know all the other stuff he looked good yesterday yeah you'd be like oh yeah if we needed a quarterback next year but like don't he's going to do it for he's going to do it for a couple more games like that. He's going to act different. He has to, right? At this point, because a new GM comes in.

If you're a new GM in the jet. No, you don't want, no. No. Yeah, no. Okay. And the dog, it's week 17 at the Browns, week 18 at the Jets. Dude, listen, they could go nine and seven. Is that going to be enough?

Probably not. And that's the point. So pull up nine. Nine and eight. Nine and eight, I mean, nine and eight. I can't adjust. They would have to go, 10 and seven even theoretically could not. get in in the AFC because we have three teams at eight and five including reeds broncos so what they

need is the charges to implode they need either the raven's chargers or broncos to implode one of those three and i i who's got the best chance to doing that the broncos because yeah schedule but i still think the broncos are the ravens because no one thinks that can happen well there is a chance there's always a chance when you commit 14 penalties a game and the defense is up and down so Real fast, the last thing we have to say on this game is this game should have been a Jets win. Devante Adams third and 11 or third and 21. They got 14 yards. Oh, yeah.

With a minute left. And instead of turning in to the field, he turns out, which makes it easier for the defender to push him out of bounds, stops the clock at 56 seconds. They kick the field goal. Could have had 20 seconds, then kick the field goal too. has 40 seconds less to go down and tie the game up. And you could tell right after it happened, he puts his hand on his head. He's like, God, bless it.

Brutal. Red line. Also, though, it just all comes back to like coaching and, you know, you've broken up the group so much now at this point. It's like they probably would have been better off with solid as the head coach and kept Ulbric on defense side of the ball. They might have had a fighting chance, but instead they threw the baby out with the bathwater. they were just like,

all right, we got to break everything because nothing's working. And why, Rogers, why are you throwing the ball on a sideline out? Why don't you have Adams do five yards stop cut in? You know, if that's your primary look,

why are you throwing anything to the side of the field? Well, I don't know. Why don't you ask Todd Downey and Nathaniel Hackett, Reed? You know? Todd. Todd.

Todd. Todd. Todd. Todd. Todd. Todd. Saints Giants. Saints Giants. Okay, this is just my...

Saints, not out of it in the NFC South? This is my best plane ride. Also, just a crushing cover for the damn giants. Like, the Saints had this on lock and just three-point game at the end and a field goal mishap. Brian Briefing. I'd ask to yell for this one. Yeah, I got a damn best plane ride. The best plane ride is whoever was flying that plane above Giant Stadium. And look at this.

I look this up. I don't know if this is the company, but personal banner towing rate, all-inclusive, $950 to $1,500 depending on the area and the airspace. You get 30 to 40 characters, character letters, banner. It passes over five times of the location you want, and then, and it also, you would be text-messaged while and when it's going to happen. There's got to be an upcharge that they're going to fly over an NFL game.

Right? Yeah. Well, let's find out how much it costs we can advertise. But the thing, I love the way it's written. I love the way this is written. It's like Mr. Mera, PLZ. No, Mr. Mera, enough. No comma, Mr. Mera enough, hyphen.

You got to save the character. Please, politely fix his dumpster fire. As if it's a binary choice that he could be, making but it is kind of because i do think this team is also tanking and i and i you know like initially when i saw this and i was yucking it up and laughing about drew locks quote he was like i don't know what drew locks quote was but it was hilarious and malik neighbors was like i am pay for the plane like that wasn't even the question that was at like no yeah exactly but i'll see you guys know i didn't pay for this here it was here here it was okay um

Drew Locke did not see it, said quarterback Drew Locke, who began the game with eight straight incompletions and finished 21 to 49 passing with an interception. That's going to pretty far lengths to try and take a message. But no, I did not see it. I think what he's trying to say there is like, I kind of agree. I'm not going to be here for long and I haven't been here for long, but like this place is really fucked up. I didn't see it.

And neighbors like, I ain't paid for the plane. And I wouldn't laugh, but then I reminded myself that like, honestly, all sometimes ask me, all right, how bad were you guys are like, is that team as bad as the Rams were? This Giants team reminds me very closely of some of our Rams teams. Damn. So like when you see those interviews, you get like PTSD? I kind of, after, I was like, ha ha, ha. Hello, darkness, my old friend. And, and I go back to that place where I used to have to stand the podium after games like this. And I feel for these guys

because the whole thing's been mismanaged. They're playing for a shitty organization with a sick logo that for even people in our generation it reminds you of winning. But somehow they're

the worst. Like this organization has been awful. The two New York organizations have been awful and these guys are wasting their time. And that's the way I felt in St. Louis, wasting my damn time, dude, standing up there after games and being like, you only get so many of these. It's football. It's not baseball, no offense to baseball, where it's like, okay, you can suck for a year, but you're probably going to play a long time if you're good.

In the NFL, like, these guys, I feel for them. I feel for Malik neighbors. I feel for some of the defensive linemen on this team. I feel for Micah McFadden, STL Memorial, five TFLs in the game. I don't even know how you do that. But it's... It's a funny joke, but it's also not funny at all because these guys are rotting there. And yeah, Mr. Mara, please fix this dumpster fire. Please. Best plane ride, whoever got to fly that plane. Can you imagine being the Jersey guy who's like, yeah, I'm going up to fly this.

Wait till you see the banner. I'm going to be pulling today. Are you at the game, bro? Like texting this. Look up, look up, look up. Look up, look up. so just wild they should they should rate how bad a team was compared to your rams by how many homeless people yelling at the yeah i got yelled at by a homeless guy yeah

after the game just yelled at like it was bad and so you know when i look back i still get bitter about my career because of that and i think about these guys and i'm like fuck dude this sucks i you know um the the plane's funny but but as a player, it sucks to have to answer these questions and take the field for this organization. We talked about 49ers bear. But they could be in a race for that number one spot too.

The Saints? The Giants. Oh, the Giants. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I thought Shador Sanders was tweeting out thank you after Giants lost this too. I thought they were showing it too. Was he?

Yeah, yeah. He's like doing both. Okay. But. So he's just thankful. Yeah, yeah. He's just happy to. the kind of guy you want to draft.

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So. Brother, the total is steaming up. I'm going to get it right now. Okay. It's at 50. steaming up dude i put it at 57 no

but i got to feel like this is like this is a game where they score i'm going to go through this is chase long right now i'm chasing my losses yesterday and i'm going to put in the over and i'm not even going to see some of the game because i'm going to be at a charity dinner so

here we go there goes nothing that mjm bow what was your drip king this is actually a kind of a discussion topic I want to know if this is drip or drop I actually had a couple of drip things but this is the main one cow but I don't know if you got this ready to go but uh Kobe Turner's outfit last night you got that bad boy

yeah look at them boots what do you think of this one I don't know and this one has a little context behind it because wrench boots this is Kobe Turner was on the mass singer and this was his character for the mass singer oh I didn't know that which I think is ridiculous because like like Kobe Turner, great player, but when they reveal him in the mass singer, there's maybe

five people in that audience who are like, oh, that's Kobe Turner. Oh, yeah, for sure. You know, like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, Brian Arachmo knows. It's like, oh, Kobe Turner, of course. You remember Brian Arakpo had a guy co commercial and they were like, Brian Arakpo. It's like the Modelo commercials where they're like, a heart of a fighter. They're like, this is cruiserweight boxing legend. You know, they give his whole bio. You got to have a little. You got to have a lot. the facial recognition when you do a brand thing. Right, right.

Oh, man. Yeah, I think that's drop. Not drip. I think that's drop too. Okay. I like that. And then my other drip king was the, uh, the white chick celebration from, um, Mattelis and, uh, Bynum.

That was a good dance. That was a good, ball dance. Super swaggy. Vikings are having fun. Last thing before we sent Chris on his way, what is your viral moment there? Nate. My viral, facts viral moment of the week is going to the, the Seattle Seahawks social media team

trolling the Cardinals with a nice call-a-duty pitcher. Oh, wow. And it's depicting the Seahawks mascot playing the video game and winning in the iconic shipment. Oh, yeah, yeah. You remember shipment? Yeah, yeah. Is it shipment or shipyard or what is it? Shipman. It's shipment. And then they have on there that they're two and no versus them this year and there's a that Cardinal in there.

And there's someone in the background. And then it's like all the Seahawks players playing in the liver room. And it's funny, too. If you look and you zoom in, the poster's funny in the back, too. It's just low-hanging fruit. And Cardinals fans hate it so much because they've had to hear it so much. Every time I've said it on the show, or you said I see in the comments are like, oh, that's so tired.

So one of the comments said they work for Call of Duty. And they saw that. Everyone at Call of Duty just talks about it. thinks it's funny every time that narrative that's so funny yeah he's just throwing some text grenades like hey um having said all that we appreciate y'all and we will be back friday take care