Green Light with Chris Long - NFL WK10 Reactions! Lions Handle Texans, Steelers Defeat Commanders & Chiefs Block Broncos!
Episode Date: November 11, 2024Welcome to the Green Light LIVE NFL Week 10 Reactions show! Chris, Dr. Fax and Beau breakdown the best games, biggest storylines and most outstanding plays from the NFL's Week 10 slate. In Sunday Nig...ht's matchup, a turnover fest turned into a Lions celebration as Jared Goff led Detroit on a game winning field goal drive handled by rookie Jake Bates. The Steelers earned a tough win against the Commanders with Mike Tomlin proving his track-record against rookie QBs. The Kansas City Chiefs stayed undefeated with a field goal block of the Denver Broncos, Kyler Murray and the Arizona Cardinals flew past the Jets and the Philadelphia Eagles sent the Dallas Cowboys to the grill. (00:00) - Intro: This Weekend in Louisiana and America's Teams (21:35) - Detroit Lions at Houston Texans (36:30) - Pittsburgh Steelers at Washington Commanders (56:02) - Buffalo Bills at Indianapolis Colts (1:03:55) - Denver Broncos at Kansas City Chiefs (1:17:05) - New York Jets at Arizona Cardinals (1:26:30) - Philadelphia Eagles at Dallas Cowboys (1:44:15) - San Francisco 49ers at Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2:02:30) - Minnesota Vikings at Jacksonville Jaguars (2:17:00) - Atlanta Falcons at New Orleans Saints (2:24:55) - Fly Over Games: New England Patriots at Chicago Bears, Tennessee Titans at LA Chargers and New York Giants vs Carolina Panthers (2:44:35) - BetMGM Moments (2:47:50) - MNF Preview: Miami Dolphins at LA Rams Want your Green Light Merch so you can look exactly like Chris and the fellas? Hit the website below and get kitted! https://stores.kotisdesign.com/yotehouse/products Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: (202) 991-0723 Send any Talent Search submissions to: social@chalkmedia.com Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgxWFAA-wuB7osdiAJyLOcw Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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This is what I thought about this game, Chris.
And a little bit of kind of an example of what happened a lot on Sunday.
Yeah.
It's like the teams in the NFL that are good are just figuring out ways to fucking win.
Yeah.
Lions figured out a way to win.
You know what I mean?
Goff through five picks.
They still won.
Yep.
You know, then on the AFC side, the Chiefs figured out a way to win in the last second,
which is ridiculous how they keep doing this, especially this year, on a block field goal.
It is ridiculous.
It is ridiculous.
fucking ridiculous
it was ridiculous
you weren't happy about that one
no neither was made
the Vikings kind of had a down day
but they figured out a way to win
so like the lions are a good team
we all know that
and great
you can't count them out
until the game's over man
like they they just seem like
so galvanized such a together team
you know and that's like
those are the kinds of things
that like those kind of teams
go into deep playoff rounds
welcome to the Greenlight
podcast
Thanks for jumping in today.
It's week 10 NFL reactions.
We have a blast.
The Eagles won.
The Lions had a huge comeback on Sunday night football.
The Steelers, Mike Tomlin.
He's still dominant against rookie quarterbacks.
The Cardinals flying over the jets down in Arizona.
Bryce Young gets two wins in a row.
A great shootout in Tampa.
Lots to rip around the NFL.
Chris Bow and Dr. Fax take you through the games.
Their favorite plays and reactions to all the games.
A great Monday show for you.
Enjoy it, and we will see you later this week.
Rockin' out here
Singleshy ride
Single shot rifle in a one-eyed dog
Louisiana Saturday night
Kick off your shoes and you throw them in the flow
Dance in the kitchen till the morning light
Louisiana Saturday night
Woo
Hello
You
Baton Rouge Louisiana
Hello?
Saw it.
What's so, dude?
What's up, boys?
Alabama put belt to ass, huh?
They did put belt to ass.
But you know, but you know,
what do I know?
You know, it was about the game day experience for me.
Yeah.
I got to go down to Baton Rouge this weekend.
I'll start off.
I want to give an America's team to the state of Louisiana.
I want to shout out Brandon from Walk Ons.
I want to shout out Hugh.
I want to shout out BG.
I want to shout out Big Age.
Y'all know who you are.
Okay.
That was the group of people that showed me a good time,
including Ryan Rusillo.
Big shout out to Uncle Ryan and Stanford, Steve,
and the whole crew.
And Freds, as you can see,
they gave me some of the Freds is a great,
bar in baton ruse they gave me um like a uniform like i was working there oh fire yeah shout out to
tiger okay they had a tiger in a cave how was how was that tiger do you get to talk to him
i didn't get to talk to him as i told you last night uh i didn't get up close but uh they had a live
tiger in a cage dude it is i bo you had a great weekend i can't wait to my second america's team
is going to be the red bull flu tog team down in tampa but i just put a wing on it baby we kind of got
job we'll get there yeah well ls u got job too you know it could have been a lot closer some things went
our way uh but i just want to say this the state of louisiana is has got to be the most unique
place in the united states it's way different than any other state and people are super welcoming
i don't think i had a single bad interaction everybody it's like do you need some food welcome to bad
Ruge. You eat some gumbo?
Gumbo. I had jambalaya. I had...
Oh, nice.
Yeah. That's another thing about Louisiana and like, you know, whether it's New Orleans or
Baton Rouge, like, taking a dump is like, you got to put it on your calendar down there.
I don't think a normal shit has ever been taken.
The food is so good and there's so much booze. There's so much fireball. It's just all down
the hatch.
Fireball?
Yeah.
Do you drink fireball?
i still drink fireball wow but um i mean tmi for sure but what a weekend man louisiana is just a great
state um who we shout out we shout out walkons we shout out freds the city of bad enrooge shout out to
bill wenington how'd that happen dude me and ryan were in um we were at walk-ons before the game
and um we see this guy across the bar and i'm like that's bill wenington dude like that's got to be
him he's seven feet tall he looks like bill winnington so ryan's like we're going up and talking to him
we're going up and talking to him and so we eventually do and he was there with his son who uh who actually
played tight end for boston college oh wow yeah he's a football player um and so i got to spend a little
time with bill wendington got to walk to the game with him i felt like a child i got a picture i put it on
instagram um and so we had a great weekend it was a lot of fun i will be back love the
place that's all america's team you you met some green light folks down there met a ton of green light
folks there's a shout out to y'all locals some of the locals that i met in baton ruse that listened to
our show you know who you are i met many of you i think i bombed a cigarette off of at least
three of three of three of other yeah it was it was that kind of weekend it was that kind of weekend it was
that kind of weekend we were we were we were in the pit bro we were we were we were we were
the pit but there were some green light listeners down there oh my god i met some chicago fans i told
him what was going to happen in the game sunday some green light listeners i was like man you know
it's not good um so anyways america's team number one the state of louisiana hey beau america's team
number two the red bull flutog team congratulations on a great effort you guys look great
thank you so much yeah we had a really good time cowboy you know a in a couple of other uh dudes from the
from the green line crew came down.
Ralph,
we had our,
our team name was put a wing on it.
A little bit of controversy
on the day before the event itself
because,
you know,
long story short,
Red Bull amended their wingspan regulations.
So we were penalized.
Really?
Having wings too long.
Yes.
And then,
when did they amend it?
Like two weeks ago.
Oh,
that's not okay.
But on the,
on the rules and regulations
on the Red Bull website,
they were it stated that the wings could be as long as you know we had them so we we negotiated
on our on our behalf but we were penalized 25% of our flight distance which was not idea but we had a
good time man our crew was great our routine was really good we got nines across the board
um and it was a it was a really fun event man there were like a hundred thousand people in
Tampa the best part we were watching uh we were we were filming bow and the crew uh rolling off the
end of this, as you can see here, rolling off the end of the dock, the platform.
Yeah.
So they did their dance, single ladies.
They all took off their pants.
It was great.
And then they went.
They danced to single ladies?
Yeah.
It was sick.
You guys were right about one thing.
And I bailed.
And I'm sorry to bail on this thing because when I found out it was the same weekend as
this deal.
You know, I missed a couple of things this weekend.
And also happy birthday to my boy, Mike.
He's turning 40.
They had a little get together.
I had to miss that too.
You know, I felt like a real bad guy.
But I'll tell you this, when I found out that you guys were going to have to do some of the things y'all had to do, like dance to single ladies or where the outfits you all wore, I was okay.
You would have hated it.
The sick, but after they finished their dance, after they finished their dance, they went right into, what the hell is the song?
Higher, thank you.
Creed.
Yeah.
And the whole 60,000 people were singing higher by Creed because it looked like a great scene, dude.
It was sick.
drink, Beau. Well, yeah, that's my anti-bevel Conway for me as the pair of costumes that we wore.
Yeah. It weren't very becoming, frankly, for me personally. I like to show off me again.
I know my legs out. You know, I was wearing some tiny little short shorts. Dick looked great. Anyway.
Anyway. Just trying to make sure you're away. You mean, you could see it. Jump in.
Oh, me out, dude. Yeah. That water.
The telephoto lens on the photographer.
From viewing, from viewing at home, that water looked dirty.
Oh, I thought you were going somewhere else.
No, the water when you jumped in looked dirty.
Is it dirty?
Yeah.
Well, you got to keep in mind, Nate, there was a couple hurricanes.
A hurricane somewhere recently.
A lot of, you know, debris, sewage, whatnot.
But anyway, after like, you know, frankly, you go up this thing and it's like 27 feet in the air or whatever.
and you push the Flutog craft on it.
And then when you're a pusher, like I was a pusher, you can jump in.
And it's like kind of high up there.
And I had this heavy-ass parrachosum on.
Like 30 feet, right?
Like probably.
25 to 30 feet.
Yeah.
So I jumped in, dude.
And I'm really like plummeting down there.
And I got way down to the bottom.
And that parrot costume got so heavy.
It took me like 30 seconds to get back up, dude.
And I was like, panicking.
You could have drowned, huh?
Oh, I could have drowned, dude.
That could have been the end of me.
No way.
I was willing to pull.
my life on the line for our Red Bull team and we had a good time man we had a lot of
fun lot of great inside jokes that you guys missed out on uh we made a lot of core memories didn't
we cowboy big time the inside jokes are gonna yeah yeah we're just we're just out here
trying to live laugh love you know dude well while we're here my bebel conway is going to be uh tiger
stadium i mean just like the colors man like it's so bright and you know like from tuscaloosa last
year to now going to LSU to see it. I mean, it was beautiful. I mean, like everything, dude,
they had the live tiger. They had the, they had the, bro, I was listening to Louisiana people call
Bama players Tiger Bate, like up close. You're like, Tiger Bate, bro. Like, I was like, man,
and somebody told me before the game, they said, wait till you hear this stadium. It's going to be
the angriest noise you ever heard the first series. He's like, it's like people have been
waiting for this game for a year, which they have.
And they look mad.
They sound mad.
And I got to tell you, it was loud for the first series until Bama took control the game.
That was a unique noise.
Like, you know how the crowd noise is different everywhere and it's loud?
If it's loud crowd noise is not loud crowd noise.
Like there's indoor loud.
There's like certain places that sound a certain way.
And there's places like Tiger Stadium was, it was an angry loud.
Like they were like, it's like they could not wait.
Yeah.
It's amazing, dude.
My Bevel Conway.
We're going to give out our awards during the show this week, just a heads up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I got one too.
I got a Bevel.
Oh, you do?
Throw it in and keep it, keep it collier.
Yeah.
I'm giving it to the Virginia Cavaliers.
Oh, yeah.
UVA beat Pitt this weekend.
Big upset game.
We're sitting at 5 and 4.
I don't know how the new rules work.
Maybe that is bowl eligible.
Need one more win to be bowl eligible.
Don't people with 5 wins,
sometimes make it. If enough teams, yeah. But okay, one step closer to being bowl eligible.
And I feel like that's all we can ask for at this point with our team. That's like being a pro bowl
alternate. I know how that feels. You know, it's like, if somebody doesn't want to play in this
bowl game, they're going to say you were, you went bowling and nobody remembers, you know what I mean?
But it's very different. The last home game we have, I don't know if it's this weekend or the weekend
next weekend.
SMU coming in.
So that'll be a tough game.
But shout out to the who's.
Shout out to the who's.
Shout out to the who's.
Shout out to the who's.
I got to fly on the wall here since Bo's the resident Colorado hater.
I just wonder what he thought about this.
What's up with the official when when allegedly Dion Sanders says like, hey, we're getting beer cans thrown on us?
Oh, yeah.
And the official's like, well, you guys are blowing kisses to the crowd.
Wild.
Was that a Texas Tech?
I didn't watch.
Yeah.
I was at Texas Tech.
Yeah.
That feels like some home cooking on steroids.
Big time.
That feels like some like you're in Texas now.
Yep.
Which is why is Dionne Sanders played for the Cowboys for how long?
I know.
But.
Wild.
But if it felt like home cooking.
Yep.
What do you think about that, Bo?
I miss that.
I'm not to look into that, but you don't need to.
I'll tell you what happened.
The referee said, y'all are blowing kisses at the people.
So it justifies them throwing beer cans at you.
essentially. I'm paraphrasing.
I mean, I feel like that's been happening a lot lately ever since the,
that big PI that was overturned a couple weeks ago.
Like I feel like I've been seeing a lot of fans throwing trash and different shit on the
Texas game.
They're not happy.
Yeah.
Hey, can you make it warmer in here, somebody in the back?
You know, the whole can you turn the AC up, down, whatever.
Barritos.
Just make it warmer.
They were throwing.
Chris, you got a new hat.
Where's the cherry's hat, man?
Oh, my chair.
Cherry's hat took a beating this weekend.
It's at home right now.
I think it's been getting a lot of air time lately.
I like that hat.
Yeah, it's a great hat.
Shout out to Tommy Pockets for the hat you're wearing now.
Vet Day.
Shout out to Tommy Pockets.
Speaking of Vets, another America's team, all our veterans.
This is Veterans Day.
And we appreciate you.
No questions asked.
I mean, like every year around this time, we celebrate in the NFL, the men and women that have
served our country.
And if you're listening and you're a veteran, thank you.
Yeah, veterans are awesome.
They're not just protecting our freedoms and all that stuff that we often say.
But like, you want to, you want somebody that's going to kick ass and take names in the private sector as well?
Veterans.
I'm telling you, we've got some great vets that help us out at the Chris Long Foundation that work with us in the water space.
Those folks climb Kelly with a bunch of those vets.
and every year we come down the mountain and you know bow you've met a lot of these folks and
they come down and and they kick ass for us they solicit donations grow our network and honestly
we don't ask them to do any of it they just come home and get to work so it's a lot like they do when
they get home from serving our country veterans all over the country are helping you know off the
the battlefield, so to speak.
When they get home in the private sector, they're kicking ass.
Public sector, too.
A lot of them become public school teachers.
One of the most common jobs.
Really?
Yeah.
So thank you to veterans.
Another America's team, the state of Florida, state of Florida, in a different way than
Louisiana.
This has never happened before.
FBS, FCS, NFCS, NFL teams combined 0 and 11 this weekend.
Oh, for 12.
Over 12.
Over 12 of you can put a wing on it.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, we put a wing on it.
We lost, too.
That was actually my worst seat.
But yeah, tough look for the state of Florida.
My home, you know, my current home state.
Current home state.
Not a good look for us right now.
Not a good look.
You still got the Miami Dolphins tonight.
We'll talk about that game at the end of the show.
And then lastly, America's team, people who are fucking tired of falling back.
I don't want to fall back anymore.
I'm over it.
You talked about this last week, Arizona, the one team that's exempt from falling back,
They're kicking ass and taking names.
We got a little bit of a theory we're growing here at the Greenlight Pod.
And that's-
FACs.
Yeah, dude.
That might be the strongest conspiracy facts take that we've ever had.
But then yesterday I'm watching all these quarterbacks throw picks.
And I asked Nolan this morning, I said, hey, can you see if there's more picks in week 10?
Like, what happens from week 9 to week 10?
You know, and I know it, you know, falling back preceded week 9.
But I am telling you, when your circadian rhythms off.
and you're up later and you don't even know it.
Everybody's fucking tired.
I was so exhausted this week.
I'm really tired right now.
Just trying to catch up.
It might be fall back.
It had nothing to do with the 35 drinks this weekend.
Or being up till 4 a.m.
And AAA published a study that says accidents go way up the week after day late.
You know what else happens?
Quarterbacks throw picks.
Nolan, hit it.
Except for Kyler Merr.
Hit it, Noel.
We went back.
15 years back to 2010. Over the last 15 years on average, we see a 28.3% increase in interceptions
thrown from week 9 to week 10. Now go back. That's 15 years. Now, dude, 10 years. Wow.
Oh, we, yeah, coming back 10 years was like, hold on one sec. 38%. Yep, it was 34. 34% of 10 years.
Yeah. That's wild. So I'm just telling you, people make bad decisions. Things are a little bit,
you're a little wonky after they tell you to fall back.
You know,
my decision making this weekend was definitely bad, Chris.
Was it?
Yeah.
Did you make any decisions like that the,
the mercury is in Gatorade?
The murk.
The murk.
More picks.
Hey.
Hey, listen, I think we're on to something here.
I think.
that when it's time to fall back,
quarterback starts short-circuited.
Yeah.
Listen, next year, week 10,
take all those overs on interception prize.
Take the overs on the interceptions.
Thank us later.
Because I'm telling you,
it is, there's something in the water where yesterday,
whether it was Darnold,
you know,
Josh Allen,
Jared Gough,
C.J. Stroud, like,
look around the league.
Guys don't know where to throw the ball.
I'm pretty sure if Caleb Williams
was allowed to throw the ball more.
And he wasn't saying,
like eight times he would have thrown more picks yep so people who hate fall back america's team hand
up yeah hate it hate it hate it i hate it too um and then lastly me and steve on america's team
we just keep kicking mackin's ass in the locks we just keep kicking his poor ass in the locks and listen
went five and oh last week went four and one this week steve went so i'm nine and one in my last i know and you chucks
You built a parlay with my picks, right?
And it was over in the morning.
I'm sorry about the Giants play.
Over in the morning.
Sorry about the Giants play.
I didn't think that Daniel Jones was such an international terrorist.
I know.
But honestly, what the hell the Patriots doing trying to win?
Like, what are y'all doing?
Like, chill out.
No idea.
But Steve, Steve, Steve is 8 and 2.
8 and 2 in the last 10.
I'm 9 and 1.
17 and 3 combined between you two.
And then Macon is not bad.
And Macon went on.
this whole diatribe last week about how he was going to ride our asses was the quote and we had it
coming to us and you know he was going to blow us out of the water he's no longer the sandwich you know
he's no longer between your two asses yeah he's the bottom he was yeah now he's the bottom yeah so uh
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You know?
You know?
You know?
You know?
Yeah, you know.
So, Justin Morgan in the chat said,
Make America Gatorade again.
For sure.
For sure.
Sunday night football, Detroit and Houston.
A game with a lot of interceptions.
Oh, my God.
Those guys, those fellas didn't have fun falling back.
Dude, I got to say,
I think it's a little unfair to look at golf's game as throwing five picks.
because I'd just be honest.
Well, that's what Dan Campbell said.
He said after the game, he said it wasn't bad decisions.
It wasn't.
He got away with one early in the game on a deep shot
where Stingley breaks up the pass.
Honestly, if you watch that play, Hunter beat big rigatone soo on an inside out spin.
The pressure, you know, force him in some bad decisions,
including Petrie making a real Kyle Hamilton-ass play.
you know, which isn't like a traditional pick, but it's a bad decision.
So is the, you know, when Autry drives by one time with his handout,
you know he's coming back a quarter second later.
You got to climb in the pocket or get rid of that ball.
Again, not a traditional interception.
And I felt for him sitting on the bench after he had to heave the ball on the Hail Mary before the half.
Because I was like, this is the type of thing that now you're going to the second half
and you have what three picks at this point in the first half.
And again, just a really gutsy,
performance by golf and the lions. Can you imagine sitting on the bench and saying, I've thrown
five picks in this game? Yeah. You know, but I kept watching Dan Campbell pace up and down the
sideline, and I almost felt like he likes being in these situations. Because it tests his team.
The interview at a half time, like, is there anywhere you think he'd rather be than in front,
given that interview, like, going to get a turnover. This is going to be, we're going to, all we need is
one. He likes it money. And then first possession, they get a turn.
And I don't know where CJ Strouds, I don't know why C.J. Stroud's making that throw because Davis is outside leverage. And, you know, it almost looked like, hey, was, was Dell supposed to sit down? But I don't think so because it had tight ends sitting down the same spot. So, you know, I think the bigger story out of this game, number one, the lions, you can't kill them. They're like roaches, you know, and I mean that as a compliment. But the damn,
Texans now. You know, it's kind of, it's a little like the bangles. It's different because the team's
built differently and all that stuff. But, you know, this is four straight games. I don't think
they've had a touchdown in the second half. Did I read that today? I'm not positive on that,
but they're one in nine against the second half spread this season. No, it's automatic. You,
you fade them in the second half, but you've got, you got Joe Mixing coming out of the game saying,
you know, we're playing not to lose.
And listen, I hear that.
And for most of the game, you're sitting there like, this is what happens when C.J. Stroud has a clean pocket because you have a team now that's not a great pass rushing team, right?
I mean, they got McNeil and they get Pascal back and all that stuff.
But Zadaria Smith, who's on the sideline, by the way, he's coaching up his teammates.
Looks like he's immediately going to be a leader on that team.
But they don't have a pass rush to speak of.
and Stroud is kind of, he looks like the old Stroud.
Like that's what we said at the half.
We're like, this is who they looked like last year.
And in the second half, it's like the,
I wonder at this point if it's not just the play calls.
It's not just the fact they go in the halftime
and just sit around for 20 minutes or something.
But it's also the feeling of when you come out
and you throw that pick, it's like, here we go again.
And when you look at the in the second half,
their drive starts like,
they threw that pick off the bat, then they're backed up on the one. You know, they had a second
and 20 at some point early in the second half. They were backed up on like the nine, second and 30,
actually. They were just putting themselves in bad positions. And then obviously, to me,
the biggest play of the game is C.J. Straub with Tank Dell butt naked in the end zone. If he hits
that throw, it's 30 to 13. That game's over. So as much as we want to make it about the calls,
and as much we want to make it about like it's mental,
and maybe it is mental for CJ looking at that throw.
But that's a throw we expect CJ Stroud to make.
And I'm a huge Stroud fan.
And I think he has a chance to be.
And I think he is in the, like if I had to draft quarterbacks in the NFL,
he's going to top five or six, like drafting quarterbacks for their future.
But the way he's playing right now is not good enough.
And a lot of times it is the offensive line.
but I can't blame every decision he made on the offensive line last night.
The offensive line's been abhorrent all year long,
but if you hit that throw, it's 30 to 13.
That game's over.
And it's the last four weeks that they have not scored a touchdown in the second half.
Yeah.
And so you have this game where you're missing some of your best players.
You're missing Nico Collins.
You're missing Will Anderson.
And this is a back against the wall game,
and nobody expects you to win it,
except I guess me last night.
I had a money line and I had them plus four and a half.
Like this was your classic back against the wall game.
You know, everybody's on Detroit.
You watch this team play.
There's no reason they should beat Detroit.
But the defense flew around.
They're fast as fuck.
They jumped the stuff in the flat early.
You know, they did a great job of replacing in the run game.
The little guys, Petrie, playing to his strengths.
The whole thing, you're right there to beat Detroit and turn your season around.
And all of a sudden you're what, six and four?
Yep.
Yep.
You know, and the tone is totally different.
And the snaps high on the kick.
Now, if you're the Texans, you're probably waking up this morning like, hey, that PI on Terry and Arnold, who also had a PI on a shot down the left sideline got missed.
That's what led to that long field goal.
You know, they should be on the field probably chewing clock, getting ready to kick a field goal with no time left on the clock at some point.
The call didn't go their way.
You know, I can't say that's why they lost the game, because why they lost the game was not making that throw, was letting them back in the second half, not taking advantage of more picks from golf.
You know, golf was out there throwing the ball the other team.
So just a disappointing day for Houston.
But you can see when they're at home, and the shame of it is now, they might not be a team hosting a lot of games in the playoffs.
When they're at home, this defense is something.
Like, they're fast, and they fly around.
They're getting off his son.
They're rolling.
We have a problem, Houston.
Yeah, no, I saw a sign last night.
It was like, Houston, you have a problem.
A shout out to the Lions defense.
They held Joe Mixen 46 yards on 25 carries.
He was on a four-game 100-yard rushing streak.
Yeah.
And he's only been in five of the six games he's played so far the season before last night
were over 100 yards.
Good for Aaron Glenn.
Leave the dream, baby.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Lean the Dream, DJ Reader, those two played really good inside.
And Joe Mixen is really fucking good.
Like, he's one of those backs where you kind of expect him to have 100 yards rushing every time.
And he's, like, good out of the backfield, too.
I think he does a lot of the little things, right.
But this is what I thought about this game, Chris.
And a little bit of kind of an example of what happened a lot on Sunday.
Yeah.
It's like the teams in the NFL that are good are just figuring out ways to fucking win.
Yeah.
Lions figured out a way to win.
You know what I mean?
Like golf through five picks.
they still won.
Yep.
You know, then on the AFC side, the Chiefs figured out a way to win in the last second,
which is ridiculous how they keep doing this, especially this year on a block field goal.
It is ridiculous.
It was ridiculous.
It was ridiculous, man.
You weren't happy about that one, were you?
No.
Neither was made.
The Vikings kind of had a down day, but they figured out a way to win.
So, like, the Lions are a good team.
We all know that.
And we can't count them out until the game's over, man.
They just seem like so Galvin I, such a together team, you know, and that's like,
those are the kinds of things that like those kind of teams go into deep playoff rounds.
No question.
Somebody, the poll in here was, did the Texan take a step back?
I don't think they took a step back.
I thought they just did more of the same.
You know, I think in a lot of ways last night, you hit that kick at the end of the game.
You're talking about their seasons turned around.
Nobody's talking about the lead they blew.
But to our point, which we make often is like when you lose a game sometimes, it's,
easier to get the point across.
You know, I think there needs to be a come-to-Jesus conversation in this building
about the offensive play caller and Bobby Sloick.
Because guys are saying out loud right now that like, hey, we don't love the calls.
You know, they have the most third and tens plus in the league.
The next closest team is 13 times lower than them with 37.
They got 50.
They got 50.
Team with C.J. Stroud and Joe Mixon, who's missed some time, has been in third and long
born to any team in the league that's just not a realistic position to put yourself into you know who's
37 is Dishon watson they've had 50 so you know like it's not even close how bad they've been and so
you know the shame of it is i think the defense is coming along in a lot of areas and they're pretty
disruptive up front and like you're building this this uh this complete team down there and you know
a guy throws five picks against you and you end up losing the game that that to me is like rock bottom
It's not taking a step back
because it's what you've continued to do
the last six weeks of the season, it feels like,
where it's like all the way back to Jacksonville game,
you know, they kind of just survived in the second half
because they can't get it going offensively.
So we need to have a real conversation about, you know,
who's calling the plays in Houston?
And honestly, I think one of the reasons
that we haven't seen something happen
and maybe the reason it's not going to happen
is I don't know who calls plays otherwise.
on that staff like who's the next guy up you know they've got some experience on the staff one guy that
has called played in the NFL is bill laser who was in uh he was at virginia for a little bit i don't know
if they feel like he's a guy that can get involved or what but like i'm not trying to make something
out of nothing here i think texans fans probably agree that like we need to have have a conversation
about the play calling yeah typically whether it's with with the coaching staff or with players those come
to jesus meetings you talk about they happen during bi weeks right and they still
they won't go on the buy till December till week 14.
Yep.
So there could be, you know, maybe that's something they look into.
And for them, it's a manageable stretch.
These next few weeks you're at Dallas Monday night.
Yeah.
Titans at home.
And then at Jacksonville.
The thing that worries me about Dallas, though, is like, Dallas can rush a passer.
Yeah.
They got Micah back and, you know, wait until we talk about Dallas.
There's one nice thing I'm going to say about that team overshone's a fucking stud.
A stud.
Yeah.
And so, you know, there's some guys that can.
really run and they're going to be able to disrupt them up front. So like even the games that are
supposed to be easy for you are not easy because you can't protect the quarterback. And
Metchie, you wasted his big coming out party last night as far as scoring a touchdown and, you
know, in some key spots getting you conversions and, you know, it's just, uh, it's just a tough deal.
And what the frick is Titus Howard doing? There was a, bro. That was bizarre. I've, I've never seen anything
like that. That's, like, what do you even say to a guy like that in meeting?
if you're the line coach like hey uh obviously don't ever do that do not do that ever bro it's it's like
it's like he short-circuited i i i'm gonna make a play well he played high school quarterback
i can be your hero baby you're gonna take that ball and run 15 yards our first down like what the
fuck are you thinking well honestly i i couldn't believe that he did it so for for about five minutes
i was texting reading nolan like i think strout handed him the ball
I got to go back and look at the slow-mo.
I looked at it like 15 times.
Stroud's right arm did look like it was willingly going away from his body,
but what you couldn't see on the other side of the camera was his left arm,
and it looked like Howard was with his right arm trying to dislodge the ball,
but you couldn't see it for sure.
There's just, CJ Stroud would never.
Yeah.
You know, like I don't.
Oh, I'm in, they're not even, they're not helping him.
They're also actively hurting him by.
That's great.
It's kind of like the Sequin play last week, how we talked about, like, how does he even think of doing this?
It's like, yeah, how does it?
Like, what offensive lineman in that situation is like, I got you?
Yeah, I don't know, man.
That's a tough deal.
That's a tough deal.
So the Lions have won a bunch of different ways this year.
Add to the list throwing five picks and going down a bunch of points.
Like, you know, for a team that majors in the run game and play action pass to be able to eat up a lead like that quickly,
Jamir Gibbs in the second half off tackle.
They just started getting downhill quick with him.
And, you know, the Texas didn't help.
They did not help themselves.
I actually love, like, I love the play calling that Ben Johnson went to after all those picks from golf.
I was like, first of all, he didn't change a whole lot.
But I did feel like they did a lot more screen, screen game, quick game.
Just kind of stuff to, like, get him comfortable a little bit.
Because, I mean, that is hard.
That does weigh on you as a quarterback when you have all those picks.
I feel like they did a really good job of kind of getting him back comfortable,
and that was a huge part of, like, getting back into that game.
And by the way, they're,
they're impressive.
The kicker was selling bricks in Houston.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Brits.
Yeah, right.
Literal brick.
Yeah.
Wait, wait, what do you mean?
He's selling bricks.
You know what I mean?
And he snuck those kicks in, man.
And then you got a kicker like the guy in San Francisco who,
we're going to talk about in a game and you do not draft kickers do not fucking try to get the
best kicker in the world just find somebody was selling bricks a couple of months ago yeah like what
it's crazy so lions they got before we move on from this I was going to say before we move on
uh I had this as my bevel conway I kind of love the red versus blue vibe of this game and it looked like
kind of did look a little bit like a color rush color I did like red I did look at that I didn't I wish
they do something else with the logo on the helmet yeah it's a little bit
little too.
The horns.
I don't know, it just doesn't quite work for me.
It's a little too much with the horns.
You got horns on your shoulder.
Horneous universe, uniform ever.
I just said that to Matt.
I'm starting to think that with helmets,
less is more for helmets.
You are into that because when the Packers came out
in those yellow helmets, you were like, yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's old school.
Hey, Steelers commies.
Giving out my best flight right now to the Steelers.
It was a short, short flight.
you know, early window.
And maybe a best seat is Mike Williams.
Yeah.
On the plane.
Yeah.
Watching the Jets.
Tyler Murray.
He is a best flight and a best seat.
Yes.
It's so great.
A double whammy.
So happy for him.
Really happy for him.
And I said this last night on my little live hit.
Fuck a red line.
I catch touchdown.
But you know.
In games.
Yeah.
But the red line thing, you know,
how hard it is in the NFL mentally, you know,
and we were D-Lyman.
They were very, very rarely was the ball snapped
and everybody's watching us.
And you know, very rarely does our mistake
get parsed the way, a mistake that Mike Williams'
mistake gets parsed.
You know, guys are out of their gap every week.
We don't know sometimes who fucked up in coverage.
We don't, but if you're a receiver,
and, you know, usually fans might not know
he was wrong in that situation,
but his quarterback aired it out.
And, you know, however you want to feel about
that he was on the wrong side of the red line he goes to his new team he's been an NFL
purgatory his whole life uh you know over in l a pre harball ends up in new york that's the seventh
circle of hell and now he's got this great opportunity in pittsburgh when when he gets his number
called there's always a little voice in your head like you're gonna fuck it up like that's part of
being an athlete and i think coming off of the mistake he made that got magnified so much
to have the mental toughness
to come to Pittsburgh your first week
in the biggest moment in the game
get thrown a moon ball
that's not an easy ball to catch
not an easy ball to track
to come down with it to make that play
good on Mike Williams
who's a veteran for putting that stuff
in the past and coming out with a winner's attitude
you know like because it is really hard
to shed the loser mentality in the NFL
when you lose but when you lose
individually but also two guys like
that like when you you know
that when you're at the end of your career,
like the opportunity to be on a winning team
and in a winning locker room are going to be very few.
So you could just think about the excitement of him even going down there
and being in that position like, oh, like I'm on a team that's winning
and they got me and they feel like I can help.
Yeah, I can help win.
Like that's like the best, that's the best, best scenario.
And I'm so happy for that.
Well, when you're a high draft pick and Mike was a higher draft pick, right?
Yeah. You know, and he's had a good career, but like, expectations.
But you always have big expectations. And when you're on a team that's not winning, people blame things on you.
Yeah. And so like even though he was a good player in L.A., you feel like there's always this sense of like, I want more or like, you know, you're part of the reason Justin Herbert hasn't turned the corner or like, you know.
And then you end up on a team like Pittsburgh, to your point. And it's just about the team. It's about the team. It's not about where you got drafted anymore.
where it's not about like the weight on your shoulders.
It's not about trying to, you know,
to change a franchise from this team
that's known to be the most fumbling-ass team in the NFL,
like chargering is a verb.
It's like clemsoning.
And then all of a sudden,
you're on this team where this is what they do.
Like they keep games close,
they're nails in tough situations,
they're always going to be in it,
and you can trust Mike Tomlin.
So all you have to do is your job.
And that to me is a beautiful, simple way to take the field.
And for him, he found it.
And for the Steelers, not just having to insert him in a lineup late in the game
and go to him in a big situation because they're down a guy or whatever.
It's also High Smith turning his ankle, making the move for Preston Smith.
You thought you were going to need him as depth because you had Marcus Golden in training camp
and you needed that four deep.
Well, all of a sudden, you need him to play meaningful snaps because I don't know what's happening
with High Smith.
you know and so from a standpoint of making a move which i said is evidence that the steelers think
they're good then they get it confirmed that they're pretty good because they go to Washington
to win and i'm not saying beaten washington makes you a super bowl contender but what it is it is now
a barometer to beat the you know to beat the commanders they're that kind of team now so to go in there
and win and to realize that the moves you made paid off immediately like you got to be riding high
and to me, the biggest move is the one that paid off the most.
It's making the quarterback switch when you got a winning record
and people like me before the season who said,
Justin Fields is the guy.
Now I came around to it when they made the move,
and I understood why they made the move,
and it has come to fruition.
It's the shots.
They took too many in the second half, in my opinion,
but they spent the whole second half backed up against their goal line.
You got the Jalen Warren fumble.
You got the damn missed, the missed punch.
fake punt.
Like there's so many mistakes they made
where they could have packed up their tent
and went home. That's not who they are.
This was a gutsy win
and I don't think they win this game
with Justin Fields at the helm
because, you know, a two-scored deficit
when the other team goes two for one
and you're down 10 points,
that wasn't, that's not on the Steelers script
the last five years post-Bentrothosberger.
All of a sudden they have a team
that can eat a deficit up
and they can do it taking shots
and they're confident.
And that's the veteran presence.
you need in a situation like that.
So it's not all about, hey, Justin Fields is in the guy.
A lot of it is Russell Wilson is the guy.
Yeah.
And so everything that you've done the last month of the season manifested in beating a tough
team.
And all of a sudden, you're up on top of the AFC.
Let me ask you something.
Yeah.
Is George Pickens the best wide receiver for them since Antonio?
He is so funny.
So good, dude.
He's so funny.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a good way to put it.
He is great.
He is a great player.
But, like, some of the things that are.
he does on game day, like during the course of a play, where he throws his body around.
Like I stumbled on to some weird George Pickens threat on Twitter where he'll like,
he suplexed the guy last week, like trying to clear a pile.
And then like yesterday, I don't know what he was doing.
No idea.
After the interception.
No.
Like, bro, what are you doing?
When he caught the ball.
You know George Picken was in ISS.
I toned in.
He was an ISS.
Yeah, ISS suck.
Yo, and then they were like zooming in on him after one play.
I think he caught the ball or something.
And he like, he like really slick quickly like pops a DB like in his face mask.
And it's like keeps it moving.
And I'm just like, yo, he is so like the little angry voice that's in his head.
Like he agrees with it probably 85% of the time.
Like 85% of the time.
The little devil voice that say, you know, do this real quick.
He's like, yep, I'm with it.
He's an agent of chaos, bro.
That's what he is.
And like, it's to Bo's point, it's the ball he caught in the skyline where all of a sudden he's holding the ball like a loaf of bread in his left hand.
He's trying to hurdle a guy while he's stiff arms two guys and then turns it into a face mask, gets away with it.
It's like what a camp counselor would do like when they're going against 10 year olds.
Yeah, pretty much.
Oh, I'm just going to do some crazy.
Yeah, just hold it here and go, woo.
I'm going to do some unsound shit.
But the dunk in the end zone to start the game, bro, is unbelievable.
Hey, I want to say it one more time because Steelers Depot or whoever aggregated me last year and was like, hey, Chris Long said George Pickens has Hall of Fame potential.
L.O.L. kind of that thing.
He does, bro.
There are very few guys in the NFL with high point.
The ball skills of that cat, the body control of that cat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dude.
And when he puts it all together and part of it is having a guy who.
who can access the areas that feel in which he's dangerous.
Yep.
And the throws that kill people where he's the recipient of 50-50 ball,
bro, he could go to the next level.
And so he's in the perfect place with Mike Tomlin and that group.
It's the best.
And now he's with the perfect quarterback for him.
Because he's so out there.
And then he's with Russell.
And Russell is like a God-fearing man, quote God.
He's out there in a different way.
In a different way.
Yeah.
It like, it works.
I'm not saying the God stuff is out there.
No, no.
I understand what you're saying.
Russ is definitely different birds.
He's so different.
But he's loved.
Sometimes it works.
Yep.
Bro, that was the best.
That was the best ever.
And if I'm that D-Lyman, like, that would literally make me want to throw up seeing Russell
Wilson dance like that, knowing he won a game by making me jump all sides.
Now, listen, this game could have came down to a bunch of mistakes.
And it's like the only, it did come down to a mistake.
But the only good thing for a lot of the guys that made mistakes before Newton was like,
we're not remembering their mistakes.
You know, it could have been any one of the drop fake punt to James Pierre.
Another, hey, listen, James Pierre drops the punt, the fake punt.
This is a ball you trust an offensive lineman to catch in the NFL.
So like I hated the call, but I can't argue with it being there.
It's one of those things where we talk about like the Philly call in the flat against the Falcons where people were like, I hate the call. Well, it's there. You know, I hate the call. Hate it. Despise it. Soon as they did it. I was like, what the fuck are we doing? But it is there. Okay. That guy could have been a, he could have been the asshole. He ended up being a guy who had to play snaps late in the game. Another very mentally tough moment from the Steelers. Okay. Zakias, our guy, muvin a punt. Okay. Off the face. He's off. He's all. He. He, he, he, he, he, he, he. He, he. He, he.
He's off the snide because nobody's going to remember that.
We're remembering Newton off sides, although it was big.
The Warren Fumble could have been that moment.
And so it was just a series of mistakes.
It was like, who made the last mistake?
And it was this poor kid, Newton, who's a rookie and it's played pretty well for them.
I will say this about this dude.
It is a cardinal sin to jump off sides in that situation.
Dijo, Dijo, Dio, Dio, but.
Dijo, you got a long career ahead of you.
You're going to be a good player.
You got to put this past you.
Really?
You got to.
You have to.
You got to.
It's going to be hard.
Yeah.
It's going to be hard.
You're going to hear it.
You're going to see it.
Like, you're going to be mentioned about it for probably the next year and a half to be like to be fair about it.
But you got to move on.
It's going to be one of the one of your dying regrets.
You're going to say, I wish that I spent more time with my family and that I didn't jump off sides against the Steelers.
But you have to get over it.
You have to.
You have to because that it.
That's bad, bro.
that is bad.
Do you know how it feels?
Your family might disown you.
Your friends all hate you now.
People are going to be sending you bills for commanders minus two.
But you got to get over it.
As a de-lineman, you know in practice,
this is probably one of the biggest cardinal sins that you can do.
And you know, like in most teams,
if you're a de-linement and you do this in a practice scenario,
the whole defense is probably on the line running for the next 15 minutes.
We know it's the one thing.
Like we got to know situational football for sure,
but this is the one thing that every last D-Ly lineman needs to know.
So anyways, just mistakes at the end of this game.
And I thought, like, defensively,
the one thing for the Steelers that surprised me a little bit
was JPJ got cooked a little bit,
Joey Porter, Jr.
McLaurin had it out for him.
You know, he wasn't the only guy that was beating him.
That was a tough game from him.
And then I think one thing that really mattered in this game was
he didn't see a lot of T.J. Watt until late in the game.
right like and he started to make his his presence felt part of that was Andrew Wiley they would have left
him alone a little bit more Andrew Wiley had played him before done a pretty good job I'm not saying they
would have left him butt naked out there but eventually he would have gotten his one-on-ones and I felt
like for most of the game they were definitely chip help you know paying attention to tj late in the game
they couldn't in some situations and he ended up being a big part of this whole deal but the whole thing is
for the commanders. Jaden didn't play his best game, still made some incredible throws, but did not
play his best game. And then, you know, they had a couple guys down, Latimore, who's going to
really help them Thursday, you know, against the Eagles and beyond. That was an intentional decision
to rest him this weekend. I think same thing a little bit with Brian Robinson, possibly, and Wiley.
So, you know, the most important game for them is going to be in now three days. I mean, it's just
this game is going to be huge. They can't hang their head.
heads. They've been on a great run. They're way ahead of schedule. The win total for this team was six
and a half. Okay, they're, they're not supposed to be where they are. Don't make this game linger.
This is just a game you lost. It's the NFL. You won one of these last week. And again,
for Newton who fucks the game up at the end, I'd much rather be him than Tyreek Stevenson.
You know what I'm saying? There, there are mistakes you make where we can get over them.
That's not one of those mistakes where you're like mad at the kid. It's just,
it was a tough deal.
And the calls.
Let's finish with the calls on this game.
Okay, because I thought the earth spot,
I thought the earth spot was going to be hard to overturn.
Just being honest.
I mean, if you give it to him where he catches the ball,
like immediately, maybe,
but he doesn't really fall back immediately.
And I think the spot was the problem.
So, like, hey, if you're a commander's fan,
you think he got that first down,
I'm not going to argue with you.
It's just a tough deal.
But I will say this, though,
you didn't lose the game just because of that call.
You know, there's also a situation in the end zone
where T.J. Watt gets held and it should be a safety.
So I could argue that, you know,
the Steelers should be defending a field goal,
which would send it into overtime, right?
Because it's a one-point game.
Was it one-point game at the end of that game?
Or two?
They won by one.
One-by-one.
So, you know, if that safety counts,
probably game changes anyways,
and you're kicking to tie, not win.
So there are calls that went, you know, both ways in this game,
in my opinion.
That's not me trying to.
I know I tried to do the thing where we're like, hey, calls suck.
People miss calls.
We've seen that week after week.
But like the game was won and lost on the field.
And I thought the Steelers just had, they had a lot of toughness, man.
They had a lot of toughness in this game.
And they deserve to be talked about in that light.
And the commanders are still a damn good football team.
Let me ask you a question real fast.
And this is probably too early to call.
But the commanders are 7 and 0 against teams that,
that are above 500 and 0 and 3 against teams that are below 500 do they is that similar to the
dolphins team last year do you do you feel any similar you say the commanders or oh and three against
teams above 5000 no yeah yeah no because because no because I thought they showed like listen
the it's not the same Ravens team but how the dolphins play against the the Ravens last year you
know it's like they got blown out of the water it's like the offense is nowhere to be found
in those situations.
I think the commanders, because of the quarterback, okay, are better.
Like they just are.
They're more complete.
The defense, by the way, continues to make plays.
I thought Fowler's on fire right now.
I talked about him and Dorrance Armstrong.
Their win rate, their pressures.
Dan Quinn is getting some really good things done with this group,
and they're only going to get better when they don't have St. Juist out there
in some of the most important situations on the best guys.
And, you know, it's like when Lattimore comes in, this is going to really help this defense.
And I think when they're at full strength, they're still very good.
So this isn't me making excuses for them.
I saw somebody in the chat like, no excuses.
You all love to do that.
Every team has injuries.
We're not making excuses.
We're painting the picture.
And certainly, I don't, you know, in the same hand, I'm not giving the commanders, you know, a pass because of the earth spot.
To my point, there was also a call it didn't go Pittsburgh's way.
Just giving you an example of why we should just pay attention to how the game played out.
And so in this situation, I think the Steelers proved that they can hang with the team.
Quite frankly, a lot of people thought was going to maybe run them out of the building.
I talked to a few people down in Louisiana.
Some of my new friends that were like, hey, you need to bet the commanders tomorrow.
And I was like, I won't be.
The last thing on this game, or Bo, go ahead.
I was just going to say, how do we feel about the commies heading into Thursday night
and, you know, kind of the makeup of the NFC East going forward?
here because it's a two-team race and i feel better than i did a month ago about the prospect of beating
these guys i think we can beat these guys we the eagles i think i think uh fly eagles fly i think yeah right
so i think the eagles can beat these guys but it's not going to be easy it's not going to be easy i'll tell
you what if they hadn't put cooper de gene in the lineup and made that big turnaround they made
in the last month if they were playing the defense from the first month of the season i'd say this might be a
boat race, but things have changed.
Yeah. So they can hang.
Last thing for the Steelers, commanders,
we've got to pick our Greenlight MRP.
Oh, good, good, good, good, good, good.
Had Willie Cologne.
There was a guy named Lewis Lips.
That was my choice, yeah.
That's really good.
Okay.
Antoine Randallel. I'm Antoine Randallelil.
I love Barry Foster.
I love Barry Foster.
Who's that?
Mueldey Moore.
that's a good one
Loran Landry
do you remember how fucking big
Laurent Landry
he had the
thickest neck
no Lasseter does
him and Lasseter
had the thickest necks
and the thing about Lasseter
is like he's not on steroids
he just has a huge neck
that guy
Laurent Landry
there was a picture of him
with his shirt off
and I was like
that's Photoshop
yeah
why do you have Bill Wennington up
he's got Bill Wennington up
that was from earlier
no I got Laurent
Lanckar
let's see it let me see
let me see let me see that
Look how big this dude was.
Look at his arm.
That's ridiculous, dude.
That's like fake.
It's like fake.
Now, he's not going to win MRP.
Didn't he, didn't he start as a safety and then move to linebacker because he was so he
And eventually they moved into D-Tackle because he was just like, you know, it's working too well.
I'm going to, I like that name, man.
Lewis Lips.
Lewis Lips, bro.
Good receiver back in the day.
I had no idea that that guy, yeah, it's super random.
I love the name.
We'll give it to Louis Lips.
Lips, things, baby.
Lewis Lips, think ships, speaking of that.
Shout out to the Edmund Fitzgerald, which sank November 10th.
It's the famous Gordon Lightfoot song, you know it.
Yeah, sure.
Jim Harbaugh's favorite song.
It commemorates a ship that sunk in Lake Superior.
Oh.
Pretty fucking scary.
Lake Superior, you think Lake, but they had 25 foot seas that night.
The Nina, the Pinta, the Santa Maria.
Totally different situation.
Oh, okay.
Just making sure they work the same boats.
So, shout out to the Edmund, Fitzgerald, and crew.
A quick mention on Buffalo Indy.
I want to talk about Buffalo Indy real quick.
Buffalo, sloppy as hell.
Josh, circadian rhythm is off.
He doesn't like falling back.
It's week 10.
He's starting to throw the ball to other people.
I don't think this is going to happen too long.
I mean, like, flack or shit is off.
Blacko shit's off.
And obviously,
Taran Johnson is a total stud,
like very important to the team.
And,
you know,
Joe's probably going to have,
you know,
pictures of Taran Johnson
running through his head.
But like,
I think overall,
this game to me was like bad Josh Allen
where Josh Allen smell blood
and maybe the game was a little chippy.
And I don't know what was said on the field.
And like,
you know,
he's getting punched by,
what's the guy's name uh dangbo dangbo yeah yeah dangbo 54 yep he's punching him you know and and it's chippy
down in the end zone when uh Spencer brown runs over and you know pulls a guy off Josh like I don't know
if this was a thing where they thought they they could run the score up on these guys like hey
we want to go out and score 30 on these guys and be done and it just felt like they were in the game
and buffalo was just too aggressive buffalo was really aggressive they went for they went on fourth and one
with 11 minutes ago and the third backed up, I think.
Yep.
I mean, like, they went on fourth and one up 20 to 13.
They went on fourth and three early.
They were aggressive.
And, you know, like, backed up before the half, under a minute to go.
Like, a lot of teams are not even going to take that chance because they don't have a Josh Allen.
They're like, let's go try to get some points.
I mean, to get the points, it was like Josh Allen rolling right, outrunning people,
flipping the ball down the field to Mack Hollins.
somebody from Indy, for God's sakes, just touch him. Touch him down. That was beautiful. It was beautiful. I mean,
Matt gets down like for a second and then pops right back up and runs out of bounds out of
it. It was so smooth because he slid like a perfect sliding catch and then his lead foot
plants in the ground. His momentum just pulls him right. It was so athletic. So I just think overall
Josh made a few decisions he wants back. Like I don't even think he saw EJ speed. I think at times like
he just gets in kill mode.
And that's not where we want him to be in every,
not against the Colts like all game long.
And I thought that the overall,
their game plan was aggressive.
They were aggressive and he was too aggressive.
I don't think this has been a thing that he's done all year by any stretch of the imagination.
In fact,
that first picky through where Cooper fell down,
it like kind of wasn't even his fault.
These picks were Josh kind of picks.
And so we got to,
we got to take care of that.
but a little regression tighter than it had to be if he hits concade to go up 17 to 3 the game's over
and I think sometimes like he'll miss and then he wants it back and he and he gets kind of like a little
too come to chase allen yeah he comes chase allen and so you go up 17 3 this thing's over so
instead you go on fourth and three and the next possession is 10 10 you got a ball game so overall
not a game we're going to break down heavily but for the colts very disappointing
to make the quarterback switch.
And for Flacka to play the way he's played the last two weeks,
listen, I was a proponent of the quarterback switch.
I still don't think it's the wrong thing because of the way our guy's playing.
And I'm talking about Anthony Richardson, like you didn't have a choice.
And then on top of it, he takes himself out of the game.
So it was like, I mean, it's a very different situation than what you just mentioned up in Pittsburgh.
You know, like it's two very different kind of quarterback room, like teams, everything like that.
flack are like three picks just not like as steady at all as as what they're hoping for like he's
looks a little old to me Chris and you tell me if I'm being a little harsh but that's that's that's
kind of my take I want to give it a couple more I want to give it a couple more games man because in
spots this year he's looked really good like I saw him under pressure hitting some big throws
against Tennessee obviously Jacksonville as well who's a who's a shit wagon right now but it's like
you know I trust the guy I certainly trust him more than the other guy
and you know the fact of the matter is it's almost like hey you got to pick your poison like are we going to be totally erratic on early downs missing or easy throws or do we lose some of that ceiling that we have with the young guy and and i think they went for the lower ceiling with more efficiency but if you're going to throw picks and you know like i thought one of the most interesting points of the game was they were talking about how flaco said you know alluded to winning comeback of the year and maybe demar deserved it in the very next play as
they finish the sound bite, he throws, he fumbles and Lamar picks it up.
I was just going to say, I was just going to say, like, honestly, this year, like,
Damar has low-key been kind of like a ball magnet.
Like, he's found himself, like, like, having PbUs, being around fumbles, like, being,
like, causing, causing fumbles, a few interceptions.
And good for him, though.
But a huge matchup next week with the Chiefs, obviously, we're going to talk about that in the preview
show but they had no Coleman no Cooper for I think Kincaid you know spent a lot of time on the sideline
in this game so like all things considered I think it's a combination of hey all the sudden I got
these new toys and now I don't have them and I want to kill the Colts like I want to kill them
and bury them and I miss my chance to go up 17 to 3 and now I'm pressing trying to just
nail in the coffin yeah and so he's got to get out of that deal a win's got to be enough for
this team you can't get bored winning
Yeah.
And I still think, I think, I'm just going to say it right here,
if guys are healthy for them, I think they beat the Chiefs.
I do.
I do.
What do you think the Spreda's?
I think the Chiefs are slight favorites.
Or if it's in Buffalo, maybe the Bills are slight favorites.
Yeah, it's in Buffalo.
What's the line?
Two and a half.
Chiefs are, Bills are favorite.
Yeah, there you go.
It moved?
Yeah, it was one earlier, right?
Yeah, one and a half.
And I'm thinking a lot of people probably are on the Chiefs.
I don't know.
That Denver game didn't.
help in that respect there might be some people on the bills but like i do think like if they play 10
times those two teams right now ironically i think they probably win seven of them or six of them
like i really do six of them i'm gonna say six of them i'm not gonna sit here and say a team that's
undefeated and write them off is losing you know seven games out of 10 with another team but i think
the bills match up pretty good i really do so um that's gonna be an interesting one i can't wait to see it
Shout out Joe Flacco for hitting me over.
And hey, big Chiefs lover here.
You know me.
I'm Mr.
You know,
Glaze the Chiefs every week.
But I just,
I do think this is a game where they can win.
I'm not saying they're going to win,
but it's going to be a fucking fun game.
Why don't we glaze the Chiefs right now with,
real quick.
Before we move on,
I got an STL Memorial.
You mentioned this, Chris.
Got to give it to Mack Hollins.
Yes.
Four for 80 yards.
That sick play, he had that 44 yard.
catch front of the program good buddy of mine and a very interesting cat just in general like i love
mac he marches the beat of his own shoeless drum you know shoeless drum the story about him missing
the meeting at the hotel because he didn't take the elevator and he he was walking up because he
can't take the elevator with no shoes yeah and uh so he walked or i think he just didn't want to take
you just i'm not going to i'm not going to i'm not going to rely on something else to take me where
my own feet can take me and it's just like all right man have fun with that fine yeah
No, that's crazy.
What's crazy is I saw he was on, like, a TV show recently,
like maybe good morning football or something,
and he put his feet on the table.
And they looked disgusting.
It was really gross.
Nuts.
Yeah, really nuts.
I respect it.
I love Mac, but he's got to put his dogs away sometime.
He's bawling, though.
He is bawling.
That's my boy.
Do you what you want.
I love Mac.
Right.
Glaze the Chiefs?
Yeah, I glaze him.
I would glaze you guys a little bit, man.
Well, I appreciate that.
Hey, you guys took some steps.
forward in general like you know i know you beat the chiefs last year in the whole thing but this seems
more sustainable like being able to play with these guys um there were a couple drives where
sean paidon i called him a bad boy last night on my live show because he i mean to get this
group first nine or 10 completions there's eight different receivers catching the football
you're finding ways to get courtland sutton open in a matchup with mcduffy you're hey third and one you
trust your quarterback enough to take a shot.
Like, he's improving.
And I think this team's figuring out how to play.
But a street can be very real.
And they haven't won there since 2015.
And I just think with like that five and a half minute drive, executed perfectly,
everything about it, executed perfectly.
You beat the Chiefs.
You just couldn't get Leo Chanel blocked.
And those are types of things that happen when you haven't won somewhere since 2015.
And it comes down to preparation,
and the chief's saying, hey, we knew that this guy was light in the ass and we could bowl him over.
Yep.
Perfect time.
Speaking of this guy, my hollow man is going to Alex Forsygg.
Oh, he doesn't want to hear his name today.
Who is the guy that they had tips on that was supposedly light on his feet that they seen that a bull rush will potentially work to somehow maybe get a block.
And what do you know, they get a block to win the game.
That was incredible.
I think it was not incredible.
No, I'm talking about for Leo Chanel.
Oh, sorry, yeah, for Chiefs.
It was not incredible.
I was about to fire off a text and say, LFG,
yeah, three more wins.
That's all we needed.
Yeah.
For your total.
For your total.
And we have a lot of ball left.
For your total.
Yes.
Because, but like, he said for your total.
Bro.
The fact of the matter is looking and needing
four wins feel so much further than eating three wins.
I don't want to pile on the homie Alex,
but in the previous two weeks leading up to the Chiefs game,
he was knocked down five times on point after a field goal attes.
That's not a lot.
That's not to say.
That was my role on the field goal.
How many times you get knocked down?
Like every time?
Every snack.
Yeah. It's a like Garba situation.
No, no, he's not a guard, though.
You just got to die slow, man.
He plays the inside.
You were playing the wing position where you're supposed to fall.
You telling him where he played?
He was a tackle.
He's like two.
He's not a wing.
He's not a wing.
No,
you're not supposed to fall.
Yeah.
No,
you're not.
But it's still like that.
Like you get knocked down on that a lot.
No,
you do.
But they obviously saw something.
And so I do think the one thing about the Broncos in the first half,
you heard Sean Peyton out of the half talking about,
because when you interview Sean Payton on the sideline,
he's going to tell you,
And he was like, listen, I think the tempo we're going with it's great and the whole thing.
He was happy.
Honestly, I think some of the tempo through the time possession off early and then late in the game,
the chiefs kind of wear you down.
You know, and I think the chiefs, like it comes out in my homes every week, right?
Missed some throws, definitely, like missworthy.
You know, who else he missed?
He missed Kelsey in the end zone.
But in this week's edition of him being inevitable, like twin third.
and 13s at the end of that game you know the first one is crazy it's like he's got vaseline on his
shoulder pads i mean you can't bring him down um you know he hits p rind same thing on a third and 13 to
de hop uh you know you got a third and eight dragging cooper close to the sticks so they can go for it on
fourth and one like the guy's just a g dude and so many kelsey moments in this game where whether it was
third and four whether it's fourth and goal like you're finding him in key spots again and
Certainly, Sertan's a corner and he's on D-Hop,
but it does help when, you know,
you've got other people on the field
that can take pressure off of Kelsey.
And in this game,
he got some matchups that you really like
if you're the Chiefs.
And I thought in got-to-have-it situations,
it was old-fashioned vintage Mahomes
and a little pivot route on the goal.
It's just like they're so easy for them
when they're rolling.
And so again, Sean Payton deserves credit.
the Broncos deserve credit.
Sutton deserves credit,
but one thing in this game
that I think he wants back
and I told you this last night,
you probably saw it and remember it,
but the drop before the half.
Right over the middle hits him right in the hand.
Because there's three points you absolutely need it.
Yep.
You know, that changed the whole game.
Just having to insert.
So, and so I don't, you know, I don't,
listen,
Sutton was great.
Nix was good, but again, like one thing for Nix,
you've got to stop running straight backwards
when you get pressure in your face.
having four or five times
he's so athletic
but he's getting himself in trouble
and I can hear Spag saying it
just don't break down
keep running at him
because he is going to bail
he'll fuck it up for himself
and so that was one of those situations
where you lose 17 on a sack
you get sacked kind of out of field goal range
or you know you would have had a chance
at maybe getting into field goal range
and I think in general
the chiefs did a great job on him as an athlete
yeah you saw them play the read option
they kept him from scrambling
turn the heat up on them as the game went on.
And so I thought the defense played really well, Denver's defense.
The one thing I want to be very clear about,
if the Chiefs don't win the Super Bowl,
it will be because of that tackle play.
I'm talking about both sides.
You know, the thing that last year was the hidden issue with that group
where everybody was talking about the drops,
how many more times does Mahomes find the right guy
in a void in his own
or a guy that wins in Scramble Drill
last year if he actually was protected.
This year you come back, you draft this kid
Sue Matea. Mataya?
Mataya?
Mataiia?
From BYU?
Kingsley.
Kingsley. Wangia Morris goes out yesterday.
He comes in.
Bro, was it Benito that beat him five times?
He didn't touch him.
There were two sacks.
He did not touch him.
There was a hit where he had
Chip help and I think it was another sack or a hit where the guy is totally out of sorts so
the tackle situation for the chiefs is a problem eight pressures in the day for Kingsley it was bad
there are some bad situations that I see that teams work around but if that guy's going to play
meaningful snaps he's just a rookie he'll get better I got that can you tell me when he's about to
hit me do you know what that is that's him obviously talking neither to I don't know if they were on
their sideline but or to like one of their old linemen no no who was he talking to he's talking to the
official and this is a good i'm glad you brought this up because many of people on the internet got fooled
by this thing you're joking right no i'm serious do you think he's talking to the official like jokingly
or no no no see none of these things this is a great educational moment he played in the nfl okay
there are people that like dov climbing is just fucking he's like a a miss info whiz right now dude
he's out here like look what my home said and then all these
these fucking people that think the game.
There are people out there that think Super Bowl's played in the hangar.
So it is dangerous to dangle misinformation like this over a fan,
you know,
a fan base at large that will believe something like this.
Okay.
He got caught on a hot mic saying,
let me know when he's getting close.
So Dob Climman and folks like him are like,
yep, he's asking the official to tell him before people hit him.
Now, I want you to think this out and talk this out
his logical end because I know critical thinking is a problem for some you are you are saying that
patrick mohomes is confidently asking an official out in the fucking out in public in broad daylight
to tell me before i'm going to get hit you think that's what he's saying you are dangerous if you
believe that you're a dangerous individual we need to put a fucking ankle monitor on you and register
you like a sex offender i'm serious because you're you're that dangerous if you think that's what happened
He's asking the official to tell him most likely when his offensive tackle is getting close to being aligned illegally.
100%.
That is, that's what's going on.
So anybody at home that's like, hey, Mahomes has the reps in his back pocket.
I want you to graduate from preschool, get a job.
And talk to some people outside your person.
circle because it is fucking that is disturbing to me that people would think that that was the
case like that's crazy that's been a major issue for the chiefs too like think about yeah
james or whatever what's the name joan james uh john taylor lined up uh or john taylor he lined up
way too uh way too far back on many occasions over the last two seasons that's 100% what it is
chris nice i thought you're going to fire off like a spicy take there it's nice to hear some reason
from you yeah well thank you fuck you very much
But I will say this.
The Chiefs, after the Bills game,
if they can win this Bills game,
they get the Panthers,
the Raiders, the Chargers,
the Browns, the Texans,
the Steelers, and the Broncos.
And now the interesting thing's going to be, Nate.
No, I'm telling you, it's good for you.
I know.
You know.
The last game.
The last game.
The last game, they might be playing for nothing.
That could be a win for the Broncos.
But Carson wins.
They could have Carson Wentz in there,
and Carson Wentz could.
Carson Wins could be
Carson Wins could be on that
Baker Mayfield, Sam Darryl.
You know?
The Broncos defense is going to
knock the sonic coins out of
concert.
Out of Carson Wins.
I heard the noise.
You see what they did to my homes?
I heard the noise.
Oh, man.
No, they did.
They knocked this shit out of the home.
If only, I just feel like I'm going to be
really invested in that last game
and I really wish that they would just have
nine wins before that game that's that's that's all i want for christmas yeah is the broncos that have
nine wins before that last game yep that's it now there's people in the chat that probably are mad
that we we burst your bubble on the the chief's conspiracy you were at the water cooler this morning
like do you see the chief they got another call yours my holmes is asking them he's got the officials
telling him what he's going to get hit a bunch of people going back to their cubicle like can they
do that you got to stop you got to be you must be you must
must be stopped you at home you got to be stopped bro dov climbing has to be stopped you know freedom of
speech i'm not going to lie dove he he's good at engagement farming he's really good at it because i
quote tweeted it was just like i was like miss info you know and that to me mission accomplished
mission accomplished bro some people just have to be called idiots even if it even if it ultimately
improves their end game like some
People need it.
But it's funny on this side because we know, like, we can kind of decipher like
that what he's saying isn't happening.
But for the average fan, like, you also can get wrapped up to be like, oh, maybe he is
right.
He is doing that.
Like, how can he do that?
And then like, you start getting up in arms about something you never even thought about
or ever seen.
And listen, I've had a lot of money.
I've had a lot of money on the game.
You know what turns me into like a Joe fan when I have a lot of money on the game?
And then I start being like, oh, this is, you know.
So I totally get it.
But I would never hear that and be like, yeah.
Yeah.
I know facts 100% thought that he was talking about the.
No, I honestly thought he was yelling and saying like, yo, like, if this dude has a free line to me, someone yell and like, let me know that I'm about to get hit.
Like I thought it was a situation like that.
But what you guys are saying is probably what happened.
No, yeah.
Alignment.
Alignment.
Alignment.
You thought it was something like not A or B.
It was something else.
Yeah, but no, not what they were saying.
You thought he was saying to a guy on the sideline.
Like, hey, like, you guys yell if you see a free rusher or something like that.
Let me know before I'm about to get hit.
The whole, well, you know, on the sidelines, we love going pass.
Yeah.
Pass, run.
Exactly.
I mean, it helps out the guys.
That happened a lot more.
Remember in high school, you'd be all over that.
Yeah.
Ball.
And then you have that one coach
Is a jerk? Are you yelling? Are you trying to help your teammate?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I need to yell.
You know what I'm saying? And then what happens was play action?
Sorry, coach's sideline told me.
All right. So I'm going to, so what do we have now? We've got, oh, the NFC.
The NFC elite.
Was this your favorite game yesterday, Arizona, New York?
Well, it's my favorite game that I watched like kind of like from side eye.
Yeah.
You know, because I still got to get into the all 22 of this game.
But like we had it on because it's a nice thing about the four pms. There's only like three of them and Lord knows the Chargers win is a flyover. I'm sorry Chargers fans. You all are awesome, but we haven't gotten to that game yet. So that's going to be later in the show. Watch our engagement's going to tick down like our retention is going to tick down like a little bit like a few Chargers fans are leaving the chat. But I will say this. The dumpster fire getting bigger. Which one? The Jets. Oh, bro. I was going to do this whole breakdown and just not talk.
about the jazz. Which is like the ultimate disrespect now is like, you know, they're probably
, Rogers probably sitting there complaining that everybody's talking about them. Now we're just
not going to talk about you. No, I want to say one thing. What? You know what? You know what,
Rogers? You P.O.S. Why didn't you call out Devante Adams? Devante Adams dropped the damn
touchdown in the end zone and you want to be mad about a damn red line that us regular fans,
we don't know nothing about no damn red line. Talk about your, talk about your guy.
dropping a touchdown.
Embarrass your guy.
How about that?
Like, be accountable.
Because I don't like this.
Like, bro, this is what you get.
This is exactly what you get.
And then Devante Adams, you're, you're a sucker.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
He is a stoker.
No.
You, why did you go there?
Like, look at all the success everywhere else.
Everywhere else, dude.
And you're in New York with Aaron Rogers, right?
bro. Misery loves company and this is what you get.
You know what?
No, so here's the problem.
Okay.
And his views don't reflect the views of the entire podcast.
Mr.
Devante Adams,
I got a lot of respect for you.
Mr.
Aaron Rodgers,
I got a lot of respect for you too.
As a football player especially.
So like,
listen,
these guys have played a lot of good football in their careers.
Rogers is old.
He's on a team that,
that's not great.
And Adams is a bad gambler.
Like,
he really is.
That's just bad handicapping, dude.
Like somebody,
hey yesterday what was the what was the most public play of the day yesterday that people took a bath on like probably betting the lions lions minus three and a half okay so he bet the lions that's what he did he was like i'm gonna go to my old friend and everything's gonna be okay we're gonna find a way to fix it because like quarterback play can overcome and we have a secret language and a secret handshake and all this shit but it doesn't matter if the team's not great and if you're in a hole like they're in and i really do think a lot of what they deal with it's not just the
players on the field and the coaches the coach that you got fired the lack of the coach that you got
fired they got worse like like mentally they're cooked they've been cooked mentally
they're worse than the jets with zach wilson yes here's the thing or you cannot deny i love it
all the all the noise you can say oh people are making noise about us we don't invite the noise
like i just go on maccuffie show i just do you know like it's it's people you know you got to
ignore people it's all the media not listen to you people that's what he said but guess who's listening
your whole fucking team like your whole team is watching this whole thing go down your team is watching
the coach get fired your team is watching the the the williams saga your team is watching the
the adams move your team is i mean the whole thing man and people get tired and you know like you can't
expect the team to believe when they're in the hole when the team chemistry is not great and it
hadn't been since the beginning. So, you know, like, I want to talk about a good team here in the
Cardinals. Cardinals are at top of the frigging NFC West. Here are some things that might surprise you
about the Cardinals. The no-name defense of the Cardinals, who probably have a DPOI candidate, if you
want to hear, if you want to listen to Cardinals fans and Buta Baker, and I'm not going to argue with
the guys playing his ass off, but they're missing a couple guys. And I don't even, most people don't
know most of the players on this defense. They're missing Dennis Gardak.
Their best pass rusher.
You know, they brought in Baron Browning,
who had a few pressures yesterday in the short days work.
That's a good sign and all that, our guy.
But here's the problem for teams playing them.
They can't score on them right now.
At home in the desert?
Zero touchdowns the last three games.
Zero touchdowns the last three games, bro.
This was an afterthought.
Their defense was an afterthought.
So what they're doing is they're obviously in some of these games
controlling the games through what they're doing offensively.
but some of these games are being played in phase that's impressive to hold the charges down like that
that's impressive to do a good job on jk davens it's impressive to do a good job on d'andre swift it's
impressive to do a good job on this rushing attack i mean you know they haven't had guys going for a hundred on
them and i i think like when you when you look at all this maybe we should be talking about
john gannon as a coach of the year candidate oh yeah i know he probably doesn't win it but if they
in the West, he should be talked about in that light. Now, don't forget, we all laughed at him last
year, Pugh, Pue, Pue, Verticles, Explosives. You know, who is this guy? This guy is getting this
defense to play like a strength. This defense that we couldn't name guys on this defense to start
the season. Yep. And people in America can't name them now. Okay. But they're playing their asses off.
And Kyler, as quoted by John Gannon, was the best player on the planet today. And he, and he
He had to be up there.
Plus 2,000.
And that guy's up late playing Call of Duty anyway, so he doesn't feel fallback.
Actually, called the new Call of Duty, I was going to say the new Call of Duty must suck because it's cheap.
He's, he is bawling out of control.
Activision drop the ball.
So I just, you got to give this group some love.
McBride makes a circus catch every week.
Great player.
You know, he's sick.
He's a great athlete.
He's hurtling dudes every week, man.
He's sick.
Ray White Hope right there.
He's awesome, dude.
We like this team, too.
So I'm not going to talk all day about, you know, a good team beat a team with two, three wins.
Like, Jets haven't earned it.
But this was fun to watch.
It is fun to watch them realizing themselves.
Like, that's what this thing is.
It's like at the beginning of the season, you're like, oh, we got a chance.
Like, we could be pretty decent.
Like, we could win some games.
And then you're going to run like this and you're like, hey, it's all on the table.
for us and you know they didn't make any big splash moves before the deadline it was baron browning
right you know so they like the guys they have he's coaching them up and uh and they should be very
proud of themselves because this is a damn good run when it matters in the nfl the nfc west is ours yeah
because you remember the thing about the cardinals what's the book on the cardinals they get weak down
the stretch in the past under cliff they fizzled out you know whether it was kiler getting hurt or
whatever, style of play.
James Connor, he didn't run the ball for a bunch of yards yesterday,
but he caught the ball out of the backfield,
had 100 scrimmage yards or whatever it is.
Like, they are physical offensively.
They're also explosive.
And defensively, they're playing sound football.
And so good for the Cardinals.
They, their defense had allowed double digits in 50.
Marie said, I got to fix my collar.
Let me do that.
There have been a couple coming.
You guys get going.
Well, it's amazing.
Chat about that.
Yeah, you know, a bunch of little Napoleons in this chat.
You know what I mean?
Just like everything's got to be just the way I want it.
I got to take a leak.
You guys can keep talking about how great the Cardinals are.
You watch this game, right?
53 straight games before week nine,
the Cardinals had allowed double digits on defense.
Dog, they're putting it together.
Kyle, it's the first player since 1950 to have two Russian TDs,
a passing touchdown, and over 90% completions,
and set the Cardinals franchise record.
it was 17 straight.
And now on Bentham GM is up to plus 2000.
Nate and I were talking about this upstairs earlier for MVP,
which I think is a bet that has some value.
Like if they could win the NFC West,
there's definitely a chance.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's something to sell out to me yesterday.
A couple big games coming up against the Seahawks for that.
I'm sorry.
No, you're good.
Just to speak to Kyler specifically,
something that stood out with that game yesterday
too was the middle of the field.
he obviously is on the receiving end of a lot of jokes with the height thing but eight of eight
in between the numbers 102 yards and he's stuck in there too yeah looking through trees and
just knew exactly where to put it blast oh yeah he got he got the he got the sign of the coins
knocked out of him that play dude his helmet fly out like a tiny little cereal box helmet yeah
any given sunday hit it's crazy thing just yeah so now that um this shakes it off and you make a great
point Matt like he's as good as anybody at like overcoming a height deficit and throwing the ball
where he kind of drew breezes it's like if drew breeze had like little roadrunner leg
yeah so anyways now it's time for the main event for some in this chat cowboys eagles
and i want to start by giving out a hollow man do you all know what the sun god's name is oh
Helios actually
Holo
Helios
I want to give it to Helios Jones
aka Jerry Jones
Hollow Man to Helios Jones
We know where the son's going to be
Well maybe don't put it there
You know
It's like you're asking your fans
Your players to overcome the fucking sun
Like just because they know it's going to be there
Then magically they
Was in the game plan
I'm low key
Okay this is a different take
I'm low key on Jerry's side
with this like hey like I feel like this should somewhat you have the floor listen why is this
everyone plays on this field everyone has to go in or out of the sun why are we only hearing about
the cowboys complain about this it's your home field why don't we because they're there mostly
but why haven't we heard the people the teams that they play against complain about it I feel like
it's something with the coin talk and knowing timing of when the sun is coming in there that you
should be able to use that to your advantage. Kind of like it's not the same exact thing. Kind of like
how Miami, look, Miami puts all of their opposing players in the heat. How the fuck are you on
the side? It's Dr. Fax, bro. That's what he does. Listen, what does Miami do? They put the players
in the heat right or wrong. And so you're in the heat the entire game because it's a little
damage of playing in our stadium. And what is my, what do Miami Dolphins do? They adapt to the heat.
because they fucking practice down there every week.
And you practice there every day.
Like you should be you.
So you're supposed to you're supposed to look at the sun over time and be like,
yeah, I'm just going to stare at this motherfucker like like, like 45 when there was a,
when there was a.
Get some reps in just staring at the sun.
Yeah, Cid Lambs just out there with his.
Hey, put.
No, Matt.
Get a get a, get a what you call it.
Get a tent advisor.
Oh.
here's what I was going to say.
You ask, why is it always
happen to the Cowboys? Because they play there
more than anybody. And because
I'm sure it's happened to the other team before,
but it's just a little
ironic when the guy who
has everything is like, I want to build
a stadium and I want it to
have cool pictures and I want everybody
to jack me off every time
they come to watch a game and say, oh, what an amazing
stadium, Jerry. Look at the
God shining through the east end zone.
or the West Ends, I don't know, he built the damn stadium, East West.
You know what they need?
They need stained glass like a church.
Honestly, people go nuts for that in that stadium, in that region.
They need to stain the glass or just put the curtains down that they put down for other events.
It feels like Jerry just doesn't want to admit that he fucked up the Sim City game.
What if that was?
Like he basically is the worst Sim City player.
Look, you want to keep a real CD?
Win a game before you request something like that.
How about that?
Who's, how about that?
The reason you're not hearing opponents complain is they've been getting their teeth kicked.
Giving up 40 points a game.
So you guys can't request nothing right now losing like the way you are.
Don't ask for for stuff.
When's the thing?
Then Jerry can't ask for the players to play better because you design the team.
You design the team.
I mean, they, hey, Bronco Menon Hall is all in.
Organizations perfectly designed for its results, you know?
Like, that's exactly what, how you design your organization?
is the results you're going to get.
There are things, there are variables in between the, you know,
the design of the organization and how it ends up that can change.
But largely, you're going to get the outcome that you designed.
And they have designed a shitty team right down to leaving Derek Henry off the roster.
Could it cost you $5 million or whatever it is.
Like, I don't know what it was.
It was nothing, right?
Mm-hmm.
You know, so like, yeah, it's, and letting Dan Quinn get away.
It's another situation now where you're like,
Ah, we're talking about firing Mike McCarthy, okay?
Well, who's going to take over for him?
And maybe you should have done this last year and given Dan Quinn the damn job.
And I want to say this right now, paint me a picture where Mike McCarthy turns this thing around.
You can't.
So he's inevitably going to get fired.
So do it right now.
Now, what I'm going to say is this.
Jerry Jones is diabolical in this way, I think, where he's like, I'm not going to fire the son of a bitch.
I'm going to make him coach this terrible team.
I'm watching him on the sideline.
Look at his play sheet late in that game with Trey Lance in the game.
And I'm just like, what is the inner monologue of this man?
If you're a Dallas fan, you can leave the room.
You can break your TV.
You can chase on the Sunday night game.
You can do whatever you could go do drugs.
If you walk outside and smoke a fucking big cone.
But if you're Mike McCarthy, you've got to sit your ass there with that Denny's menu
and try to figure out what play your shitty team with no.
No run game.
And now Cooper Rush and Tray Lance playing quarterback is going to work at home.
You give up 40 points a game at home.
Since the game that they lost the Lions, they have not won at or beat the Lions.
They haven't won at home.
I've never seen anything like it.
They've led for like three minutes.
Okay?
This team is terrible.
Pick you back in off of that.
And I'm so tired about being an adult and being gaslit into believing that this team's supposed to be something.
I'm so sick of watching the Cowboys, bro.
They have so many primetime games left.
Like, I love watching football on Thanksgiving.
I don't know if I can fucking stomach watching.
And, yeah, can we, can we some legislation or something, you know,
let's, can we flex teams out of primetime games?
Like I'm talking about out of Monday night.
Like, we don't, we don't need to see them.
They should lose their Thanksgiving rights.
Honestly.
They should stop.
They should stop expecting the giants and the cowboys to be more than decent every year
and putting them in this many.
They truly are America's team because in this country, you can live off the past like a
motherfucker like you, you know, you're just supposed to be the Cowboys.
Everything's supposed to be America's team holding us hostage.
They're taking away our freedoms.
I don't want to watch that on Thanksgiving.
I don't want to watch it on Monday night.
Need to be able to flex this team out.
They have eight games remaining three of the.
them are prime time with one TBD that's week 18 against Washington. Can I say one more thing?
Please. Isn't it amazing that it took Jerry's stupid solar death ray to get people this fired up when he
was talking about an employee's dick earlier this year? Crazy. And everybody was like,
that's fucked up. I think we need that kind of discourse though. Like, I think that's good for
talking about each other's dicks. Yeah. I have.
That's good.
He said, yikes.
I have moving on.
I have two.
So you took the other side of the big window and you took the other side of the,
yeah.
I'm just a dick,
I'm a pro-tick-talk.
That's good for society.
I know,
but when you're,
when your boss,
like we are joking,
but when your boss is talking about your meat openly,
like no other boss in America survives.
I mean,
Chris,
technically I work for you.
So if you got anything you want to say.
I did talk about his meat earlier.
You did.
But it's on y'all.
You're Jerry.
Yes.
I am Jerry S.
I'm a hard.
But I'll tell you what I'm not going to do.
I'm not going to build a giant window and blind you guys in my stupid stadium.
I mean, you know what he said?
He goes, he goes, they asked him about curtains.
He goes, well, let's tear the damn stadium down.
Right?
Are you kidding me?
Yeah.
Yes, you should tear the stadium down and build a new one.
You got that much money.
Stadium's ugly.
And now it's hurting your team.
Bro, imagine, imagine you build a house and people start talking shit about it.
Well, if I build a house.
ugly house or a house that
hurts my children
like imagine I built a house with no staircase
and the kids had to like jump
down a story every time they had
to go to breakfast imagine me sitting at the table
and being like figure it out
every kid that sleeps over
every kid that sleeps over
has to jump down from the second story
to the first story
you have to wear a blindfold in the house
yeah it's crazy
your kids just got to do part of board
they ask Ben Danucci
tweeted still blows my mind
someone signed off on getting ATT
stadium built right in the sun
LOL and then a fan said did y'all ever
talk about that in the locker room he goes oh yeah
and he was there for what
two years uh yeah
so yeah
again no interest in the coaching change
I know what you're doing Jerry you hate this guy
you hate him no I wouldn't my worst
enemy I wouldn't make him coached Cowboys right now
Speaking of that, worst seat mentions going to Mike McCarthy right now
just because he just is in a terrible spot.
No question.
And then another mention in here, I'm going best flight to Nick Siriani.
Because after giving that interview and slipping up talking about Jailie Pankville,
like if you had to went in and laid an egg this game,
I can just imagine what, like, Philly Media would be,
how they would be on his ass right now.
Yep.
So that flight home must have felt amazing.
Did just dog stomp the cowboy?
Oh, yeah.
That might be the best flight right there
because this team hasn't won there a lot.
You know, like they haven't won there a lot.
I mentioned this earlier.
I want to say something nice about the Cowboys overshone.
A lot of fun.
Guys, a hell of a player.
The question is going forward,
do they win at home this season?
Yeah, that was your big, that was your big, like, back porch.
Who did it have left?
So they.
at home it's Houston this week
then the Giants in week 13
Cincinnati week 14
I am going to be all I'm going to be
we're going to have a Giants watch party
now
now I just I know Eagles fans are like when are you going to talk about us
enjoy the funeral
you know give us three minutes
to bury the cowboys
I actually asked Reid I'm like should we
should we like start a fire in the studio
like should we risk structure fire
to like cook the cowboys like lighter fluid the whole thing we're not going to do it but they're
absolutely cooked um right and and when you have when you have micha parsons after the game saying like
oh my god this is the quote mike can leave and go where he wants uh you want to win games and do
great things with those legends who put in more time and more work than mike mccarthy ever did
until he said than mike mccarthy ever did i might have passed that off as somebody asked him
and said do you feel bad for mike mccarthy and he was like bad for mike mccarthy where
out here playing. But then when you put that at the end, like obviously, it's, yeah, it's not good.
And a guy that I'm quite frankly surprised they didn't trade before the deadline a little bit.
Micah is, I got to respect what Mike is doing right now because he knows the season is over
and all he has is the views of his podcast. He, he week by week is running it up. And the reason
why I'm okay with it is because, yes, he's been hurt, but he came back.
and he had an impact at no one really had an impact for the Dallas Cowboys except for not except
for him but he made some plays so if you want to talk a little trash the season is out the window
do your thing because he probably no one out of there you know you know you probably did one out of there
he doesn't care at all about his performance on the field as like a perennial all pro guy like
how many sacks he gets things like that I think what he's really concerned with is just creating
buzzing media sound clips so that his podcast gets more clicks I think you're definitely right about
He did both, though.
He did tweet out earlier today.
No, that's what I'm saying.
He did both.
So, like, he's doing exactly what he's supposed to do right now.
But I think Bo's point, and it's layered in sarcasm is.
Oh, I'm glad you picked up on that.
I don't know.
I don't think they did.
So here's my point.
You can be upset at how bad your team is.
Like, listen, I've been on bad teams.
Like, you've been on a bad team.
Like, it's terrible.
So, like, you got to give him.
I mean, it's not the right thing to say.
I wouldn't say it, but like, you've got to give him the benefit of the doubt that he's not just doing this for the podcast.
In my opinion, I'm giving him the point.
Oh, no, yeah.
I mean, I mean, I'm just saying it all works.
I don't think he's doing it purposely.
I think he's, it's a great thing.
Like, he's just, it's just working out well for him.
I think chicken or the egg.
I think he's a guy that, that likes to use his voice.
Yeah.
And he's doing what he does.
And also the reason why I'm saying, I'm okay with him doing it is because when Micah's on the field.
He's playing hard.
He's playing hard no matter what.
And I respect that.
Even when you're on bad teams,
I don't know.
So if he wants to be honest,
just fitting blocks.
Yeah.
If he wants to be honest about what's going on.
And don't forget.
He can.
Why not?
The Cowboys had, you know,
effort issues early last year against the Browns.
I just remember in my head.
Like, remember the beginning of the season?
It was like guys were just loafing and shit.
Like, I just don't know that they have like a great locker room anyways.
No.
You know, where it's like.
They can't.
And then you lose Dan Quinn and you lose him in division.
And then if Dax was the vocal leader in there, he's hurt now.
So it's just like.
He's hurt, but they got him on the sideline.
He almost got ran over.
Crazy.
Did you see that?
Yes.
It's crazy.
His hamstrings off the bone.
That's what they say.
And you got him like backpedaling because he almost got the gang treatment out there.
Yeah, dude.
Still taking hits.
We didn't even talk about the mingo trade, dude.
Yeah.
Like that was the big, I think he's trolling.
I think he might be trolling.
I don't know.
I'm just trying to distract from the sun, you know, blocking players' vision.
Helios Jones, bro.
The sun God.
The sun God.
I want to talk about the Eagles.
The Eagles are good.
I think the Eagles are good now.
I think the Eagles are like, not because they beat the Cowboys,
but like they have put in enough quality work over the last month of the season
where I feel pretty good about them.
I'm not saying, hey, this is a big test Thursday.
But, you know, this is a place you haven't won.
And there's still.
still that part of the Eagles where at the end of the first half,
you're playing with your food a little bit against this team,
and you're lucky that they're kind of the way they are right now,
and I'll give them a pass because of the gravity of going to Dallas and winning.
It's a divisional game.
You haven't done it in a while.
I think they had to get out and jump these guys, and they were close,
but obviously you throw the pick, you fumble the football.
I thought the biggest, and ironically, the biggest turning point in the game was the sun.
like if he catches that ball
and you don't go down and score
before the half like you're in a ball game dude
and I thought going 85 yards
and 84 seconds or whatever it was
biggest turning point in the game
and Jalen hurts
I know he didn't take care of the ball early
but I just want to take a macro view
of the guy's performance like I think
he looks really good right now
and some of the balls outside the numbers
some of the deep balls some of the red zone
stuff you know like
avoiding rushers moving in the pocket
finding people late in downs like Johnny Wilson really nice throw really good to see him involved in
the offense he was pressured on half his dropbacks and I think some of those pressures are on him
okay like that's one thing about Jalen is like sometimes you just got to get rid of the damn ball
so this isn't necessarily an all an offensive line thing but seven for nine for 114 yards and two
touchdowns under pressure so very good and you know another thing I noticed in the the chaos it
the end of the game was Huff didn't play a lot.
He played like 12 plays.
Had a sack, had a force fumble.
I think on Trey Lance, right?
And Zach Bonn just continues to play great football.
This group has turned it around in a big way.
That Zach Bond signing, we talked about this in preseason, Bo.
Like when we went to Philly, I don't even think he knew he was going to be so important in Philly.
Like when we talked to him, it was like, bro, you're going to play a big role.
And he was like, yeah, I'm just happy to be here.
know like all he was asking us for like rax he's like what place you like to go out to eat and
feel i'm like my guy like you're gonna have a great year like enjoy it you're gonna you're not
gonna pay for food if things break right for you so he could be that signing for them um you know like
the eagles just played their asses off uh in a situation where you had to have it and sayquan
berkeley he's electric with the ball and one more thing sayquan berkeley going to give johnny
wilson the ball after awesome that's a little thing but boy does it speak volumes about who he is
Guy scores touchdown.
Hey, gets rid of the ball.
Like, Sequin darts over to grab it.
Chasing down, he's like, hey, you're going to want this ball.
The guy scored 100 times.
You know, he's a great teammate, and the vibes are high on the team right now.
And to your point, Nick overcame one of the worst sound bites of the year.
I was talking about something.
Another thing is what he said.
I was like, what, bro?
That's the best you got to get out of this little pickle.
I was talking about another thing.
So nobody cares.
You got to pull that one out when you say some dumb shit around back next time.
It'll work.
It'll work.
She'll be like, I think I saw that in a Nick Seriani press conference.
That's the problem with Mary and a Philly girl or South Jersey.
All right.
Listen.
Tampa Bay.
Tampa Bay.
Tampa Bay in San Francisco.
I feel for your team, Bo.
Because they've had a real gauntlet here.
and they've been damn close to pulling a couple of these out.
So close.
And I mean, I'm,
okay, I'm an Eagles homer.
All right.
I'm a box homer too, man.
And I feel like they're gritty.
Like they've been playing hard.
They're bringing these good teams down to the wire.
You lose your best.
I think Tristan works is one of the best offensive linemen in the NFL.
I think I'm hearing MCL spraying for him.
But like he's a tough motherfucker.
And when you see him kind of limping off the field, like,
that's a really bad sign.
But it's tough for Tampa with,
just to lose these close games in this heartbreaking fashion,
but they're playing so well without their two top guys
and Mike Evans and Chris Godwin.
But what I love about them and why I think that they're still going to be
okay is like, dude, they're rushing game.
Like, Bucky Irving is sweet.
And I think I was hearing a bunch of Bucky chance
while watching this game.
I don't know if I've ever in the last, you know,
six years or whatever heard of, you know, like Ray J.
chanting an individual player's name, especially a running back.
Ray J.
The rushing attack.
Raymond James Field, baby.
You can't say that.
I think about Ray Jai.
And we were for the love like Ray J.
You're going to make life.
But Bucking Irving is thick.
Redacted explode.
Do you remember that?
Or we got.
Y'all never saw that video.
Yeah.
Some people pretty young in here that might not remember that video.
Oh, is there like a Ray J video or something?
Mm-hmm.
From many years.
What you're talking about?
Many years ago.
Oh.
Yeah.
that's sex tape.
But no, I've never heard a person chanted at Raymond James either.
I mean, like this guy's got, he's got, he's got their heart, Bo.
He should.
He's twitchy.
He's good.
And then, you know, they have white also.
And then the young kid who I think is also good, too.
Please, Tucker, what's his name?
Sean Tucker.
Sean Tucker.
But the bucks are close.
And that's kind of what I was getting at here.
Like despite, you know, losing two guys, I don't think the defense is playing as well as they should, frankly.
They're losing guys.
They're losing close games, but they're still playing well offensively.
And I think they can put it together here over the course the next couple weeks.
I mean, they're so close, man.
They're close, man.
And they do have some favorable games left on the schedule.
They've got to buy this week so that'll help Tristan worse.
Falcons lost.
Mike Evans back and Falcons losing is a big deal.
So, but like, again, when you put it in that perspective, if I'm on that,
team. I'm like, damn, the Falcons lost, and we were right there. And of course, Moody missed some
kicks. And Nate, did you see, uh, did you see Debo? I love it. You like it? I love it.
I absolutely love it because you know why? Because tell me if I'm wrong. Tell me if I're wrong.
You're wrong. Every player on the sideline, when a kicker misses a big kick, they absolutely
want to do what Debo did. I guarantee you at some point, at some point, no, but like he did it.
it at the right time. He let him miss three kicks and then he did it. And guess what? He made the game
winner because you don't want to be bullied. You're fucking scared. Whatever the reason is, I like it,
Dibo. I absolutely like it. Do you remember when you went Al Sharpton on me in here because Max
Crosby touched a coach? That's a coach. A coach can't fight back. A player, hey, if someone,
hey, I would have had no problem with that kicker trying to sock Debo back. Bro, it happens. You
fight your teammates. You like things. Yes, that should have happened maybe in the
the locker room but debo knew in the moment hey we're gonna we're not gonna lose this game and
you're not gonna be the reason so i'm gonna let you know that you need to make the freaking kick
you need to make the kick put that in the take hall of fame he's so guys so guys so guys don't
i'm not gonna get animated because i know you're wrong it's like if i know i can beat somebody up
i'm not going to yell at him like you know guys definitely want to do that maybe they don't do it
because like we've never seen it they don't but debo said enough enough that's embarrassing dude
it's embarrassing to throat shove a kicker no it's not or a long snapper yes it is i don't think so
well no well then it's law then if you don't think so no you've never been how is that ever a good
look you're telling me so do you think that if debo hadn't had to done that this kicker wouldn't
have made the game winning kay um we'll never know we will never know that that helped him
perform better in that situation. Yep. Yes. I think fear. Somebody said, I think somebody says,
I think fear helps people perform better at times. Somebody said even when he's wrong,
facts, cooks. I'm just saying, man. I'm just saying. And that and that is going,
no, you can't. And here's my thing with the Debo thing. I've seen a lot of people fuck up on that
team over the past few years and make big mistakes and he's not choking them. But the snapper,
you choke the snapper
like that's yeah that's what we're doing now
and then walk away and then walk
and then you walk away and the snapper
you know why
snapper's parking on the entire time bro
this guy won't even he won't even
fucking get up in the snapper's face
he's gonna walk away after bro
because because you know what happens
yo guys on the sideline
when a kicker when when something goes
wrong what goes through your head
is when you're in when you're in camp
and you're at practice and you're sweating
and you're dog tired
and you look over and team kick is swinging golf clubs or they're over there doing
I understand like you know what I mean you are but if I'm yeah and then they cut a 61 yard
field goal to beat the giants and then you fucking love them for the rest of your life dude yeah like
then you should be and also by the way like you're one of the worst teams in the red zone in the
NFL yeah so how about scoring some fucking touchdowns in the red zone yeah yeah okay like so
the irony of like choking your kicker is he's been the one that's been yeah now he's been hurt right
You know, because of the high ankle and the whole thing, but like, the snapper, like, we're, like, here's what I get, if I had to guess what happened is like he said something to the kicker.
And the sniper came to his, came to his.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he shows to team kick, yeah, you ride together.
And then he chokes the snapper.
Like, oh, hey, I'm, I'm talking to him.
If you want to get in it, then you get it to.
Like, that's how it.
That's how it.
I'll tell you what, if I was a snapper, I would have body slammed you.
And then my, and then you would have every right to.
But, but fear rules every.
They're obviously spirited part.
Debo is a name of a bully.
You could have a bully.
Well, he's a bully.
But here's the deal.
Well, I'm towing dangerously close to the line of like inciting Debo or the snap.
Or like, this is two grown men that had a really ugly moment.
But it's an ugly moment.
It's, you're not supposed to do that.
And I cannot believe you sat here and took me to task on Max Crosby, who wasn't even mad.
It was a coach.
It was a coach.
It was different.
And that goes to, like, moving on to the mentions, my flying the wall.
is Debo and team kick.
My fly in the wall is going to Debo and team kick probably on the plane, drinking, laughing about what went on and how I'm probably not going to miss a kick again, Debo, because I don't want you to choke me out.
Debo sitting there in his leather outfit and his sunglasses.
And now that you mentioned it.
And first class and Pepper comes up to him.
And he's like, excuse me, Debo, thanks for shoving me in the neck.
because that's what that's what won us the game you think that's how it went down on the plane
i mean that's why that's my fly on the wall i think it's on site for the snapper
speaking of mentions here this is uh you know this is actually my drip king of the week
sky's walking in there like mad man i like this leather outfit it's tough to wear leather in tampa it's
a hard look to pull off it's moving on believe me but you see him uh walking in here in all like the
bully that he is. He knew he was going to choke someone. He just didn't know it was going to be the guy at his own
he said somebody said this is the funniest shit. Ashley Taylor, facts is moving on. He just
ended his All of Fame take before anybody can continue to poke holes in it. Oh, I like they love you
in the chat, Nate. You really, it's like your little fiefdom. It's like this is like your little
fiefdom. All the people in the chat, bro. They love you even when you're wrong about.
stuff they love you bro let's let's say hypothetically it's a white o lineman shoving a black db on the
side line how's that going to go over a black quarterback wait what's the what's the context behind
the shove like is it the db gave up a third deep ball yes or a p i like how about the db gave up
yeah like you think it's warranted you had his back shove your teammate in the throat no no i think
it's warranted that one of your other teammates can yell at you if someone else comes to your
fence and tries to like come to your rescue then you get it too like I'm just saying depot was
yelling people teammates yell at each no question teammates don't generally do that they they yell at
each other yes and like it's like it's like a it's like a faux pot thing hey the kickers i think
i think we're too easy on kickers i hate when kickers now you don't like kickers that's bro listen
i don't like kickers me too dude look when kickers miss field goals when kickers miss field goals they're
the only player on the field that still
get dapped up and head taps like, oh, you'll get them next time.
No, you're right.
That's stupid.
I hate that.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
I don't like that.
But you're letting that cloud your judgment, in my opinion, on this individual situation.
They get babyed enough, man.
They get babyed enough.
How many misses is allowed in a game before you get a throw punch?
Bro, like I think Debo, Debo gave, Debo let them slide two misses.
If you want to keep it real, they still have a chance to make the playoffs, man.
I think this is going to be great for that.
I'm going to keep it real and talk about the football game.
I thought that, you know, the muff kick kind of ended up.
It's the same guy that muff won in the Super Bowl.
I didn't realize it.
They're a looter.
Luter.
But he didn't muff it, but he got blocked into it.
Friendly fire thing.
Yeah, friendly fire deal.
As a special teams unit for that to happen, that's how when you don't score touchdowns
in the red zone, which I guess somebody should be shoving Debo over that and fucking
Brock Purdy.
You probably walk up to Brock Birdie and just bitch slap him like or whatever.
Like just, you know, like, come.
Wow. Like, come on, bro.
That's just being a good teammate, right, Fax?
Yeah. You know, just being a good teammate.
I just punched my quarterback in the face because he threw a pick.
So I think, honestly, it's a situation where you think the Niners are going to come back and roll because they got McCaffrey.
You knew it would be kind of a runway game for him, even though they used him a ton.
He really didn't get off like that on the ground.
Kind of, kind of just overall a factor in the game.
I think like that you could definitely tell the difference in pierceol went off here's all huge for him
you know like like but but macfrey just to beat david on the wheel for 30 yards that's why you have
him in the game I mean it's the run game too but it's that that's huge and then and then you had some
vintage kiddle moments it's like the the playmakers came alive and they had a ton of yak
182 yards they had a ton of yak we've talked about they haven't had as much yak all of a sudden
they got a bunch of yak and I also think one thing that was really interesting to me was
I thought Brady did a great job talking about
Boca's ineffectiveness through three quarters.
Bosa, obviously, if he wants to and he has a one-on-one,
is going to abuse both those tackles after Worf Leads the game.
Like, he's just a different class of player, okay?
But he's not getting home.
He doesn't have a pressure.
I thought Brady did a great job talking about him
in a way that, like, from a quarterback's mind state,
which is like, I can take quarterback in the passing game,
you can take rushes out of the game.
Like we've all been in games where you feel like you're coming in,
you're like we've got,
it's almost sometimes when you have a big advantage,
teams get the ball out quicker and work around you more,
and you have a worst day.
And I think that's what was going on for most of the day,
quick answers.
And then late in the game when they absolutely had to have it,
of course he breaks loose and he's got a sack.
And then he's chasing Baker for his dear life.
That was a heroic play from Baker, though, Chris.
Yeah, it was a, that was a,
That was a great play from Baker.
Sorry to interrupt you, but I just want to mention it.
I thought it was very interesting in the contrast between Brady and the booth,
kind of giving Baker his flowers a little bit this week.
Yeah.
Compared to earlier in the season.
I can't remember which game it was.
I think it was week two.
Right.
Yeah.
When he was dogging everything Baker was doing, he had his personal vendetta because of the comment
that Baker made about how like the bucks brought him in to, like, have fun and things
like that.
And Tom's like, you know what's fun is winning Super Bowl?
bowls. I thought that was interesting, but dude, I love Baker, man. I thought that play at the end
on that, I think it was like fourth and seven where he's stiff arming Bosa for like, you know,
from the numbers to the sideline and then was able to get the ball off and convert it. It was
nice. Like, that was a good play, man. Understatement. Maybe the best throw of this season in a
crunch time situation when you think about who's draped all over him. Seriously, it's not a tough
throw but the unlikely
nature of like Baker Mayfield
stiff-arming Nick Bosa
all the way to the sideline.
And to Bo's point, like it was a long time
I think Nick Bosa's worried about
the horse collar.
I think he's worried about a face mask.
I think he's worried if he traps his arm down, he might
not get him. You know what the internet is saying?
What? He just doesn't want to tackle a white quarterback
like that. Really? Is that anything what it is?
They said if that was the show and I would have
taken him down. He would have ripped his
But either, whatever it was, whether it was a politically motivated miss sack or what have you,
my man was was gassed in that game.
Like going down there is a real advantage.
You talk about Miami and like it stays hot, man.
And, you know, this team off a by week, you know, when they're supposed to just roll.
Like sometimes it can be hard to get your feet moving again.
And I think as the game went on, the, the bucks just continued to possess the ball and got these guys gas.
Like Nick was gassed in some spots in this game.
So Tampa has a buy next week.
Are they still alive?
They're alive.
They are?
Yeah.
I think so.
Yeah.
They've got a pretty favorable.
I was looking at their.
No, I'm just asking.
They got a buy.
They got the Giants.
They got the Panthers.
They got the Raiders.
Oh, nice way.
Their next real big, you know, big one will be at Chargers halfway through December.
I mean, the charges are good, man.
But like, they have some time here to like breathe a little bit in the buy week.
kind of get healthy a little bit with worse and hopefully Mike Evans although I don't think he'll
be back for a couple weeks still yeah I kind of like a late season push I got how long do hamstrings
take to like if your hamstrings off the bone like how long does that take the heel I don't know
I'm not that fast to where I've ever tore my hamstring oh okay yeah like I don't know my strains are
slow they just build and build and build but uh but we should say this like the one thing the
nineers you have to worry about with this team is defensively not only are they down some
guys up front they just don't look the same as a run defense but they have struggled on third and long
and the bucks are one of the best team on third and long in the league which i didn't realize
and you know as the game went on late like in some of those key situations when they were
converting on third and seven late in the game like twice once on a penalty once on completion
the fourth and seven that's a problem for this team you know like if you get people in third
and long you got to be off the field that's something they haven't done a great job of akin to the uh the kansas
the city tackle issue. I think that's one issue
that's worth keeping your eye on with the
Niners is like, can they get off the field on third
and long? Which is kind of funny when you think about the Niners
historically with the front
and the whole thing, like, they have
not been as good. So Purdy
deserves some love. He played his ass off.
That jump pass for the touchdown.
It is truly one of those deals where you're
like, if Mahomes did it, you know,
sometimes he makes those throws. Big per.
You're like, you know, he's off platform.
He's scrambling around. Like, he's keeping
it alive. Like he's got the ball for nine,
seconds in the red zone just buying time the guy is a really good creator and um he was blitzed on 2742
of his drop back 64% versus Tampa and he was 18 to 22 for 274 two touchdowns of 148.9
pass a rating when blitzed which made it all the more confounding to me that with the game on the
line they they they didn't they didn't heat heat them up a little bit more I think there was one
play where they just kind of they rushed they just rushed i mean they didn't bring extra guys
on that last drive and you're you're kind of like bro i would have liked to be a little bit more
aggressive um and same thing at the end of the detroit game maybe i'm mixing it up but the end of the
detroit game i would have liked to see them man up in that situation going all the way back to that
game you know the one i'm talking about where they hit st brown uh-huh al-shayr is really fast he's sitting
there just sitting there in zone and you know it's like there's nobody there it's like
So I just have a pet peeve when teams have the games online.
You got to make them beat you, man.
Yeah, and you typically know where the ball is going in those situations too, like with the lines.
Got to have it.
It's going to St. Brown.
Got to have it.
And I will say it might just be first game Russ, but CMC looked a touch slow to me.
No, hey, I can't say your name, man.
Luis Enrique.
Oh, no, I can't.
Luis Enrique, Justiano.
Bowles Blitz, Pertied.
He just saw it coming.
Yeah, he was shredding him the whole game.
And there were a couple snaps on that last possession where he,
continue to do so.
But to me, with the game on the line,
you've got to be able to get to purdy.
You've got to be able to get to party.
Like you just,
it feels like you work so hard to get down there
and kick the field goal.
It's just such a disappointing deal
that they go right down.
And, you know, Niners,
off they go, off the by week.
And they are 49ers, 17 and 2
and all games played after their bye week
since 2022.
Damn, dude.
Good spot for them.
Vikings and Jaguars.
It didn't look like a great spot for the Vikings.
A little bit of a slow, slow game once they got to the red zone.
I do want to say this.
Darnel, we should worry about Darno right now.
Like, he's not playing well.
He's kind of regressing.
But I thought the second pick hit the ground.
Tanner, you were watching this game?
Like, real close.
I turned to you and I was like, I thought the ball hit the ground.
Yeah, I mean, even, I went back and looked at it and, like,
on Twitter, it looked like it hit the ground.
When I was, like...
If it looked like it hit the ground on Twitter, it fucking hit the ground, Tanner.
That's what I'm saying.
So I, you know, like not his best game, not his best game at all.
But again, like finding ways to win.
You know, you win 12, 7 or whatever it is or like, you know, it's like that's not, it's not easy.
It's not easy to win the NFL.
And, you know, it's not easy to possess the ball for 40 minutes in the NFL.
That to me is like, there's a lot positive that happened in that way.
The quarterback has to finish these damn drives.
No team has lost the game in which it allowed zero offensive touchdowns and force.
three interceptions since 2000.
Kendall Hinton led Broncos
had 20, this is wild.
Kendall Hinton game.
This is from Bill Barnwell.
This is, uh, this is wild.
He was the wide receiver.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jesus.
All right, here we go.
Here we go.
Here it is.
Here it is.
Kendall Hinton led Broncos had 24 more,
more yards of offense over the final three quarters of their blowout,
lost the Saints.
That's from Bill Barnwell.
Yeah.
That's why I have worse flight going to Sam Darnel,
even though they won.
three interceptions, no touchdowns, and Nick Mullen whispers.
Yeah.
Can you imagine that?
They're whispering Nick Mullen and I got this team to where it's at.
What if it gets a little out of Nick Mullen?
I think it can, I mean, if he doesn't play well next week, who do they play next week?
They got a big game coming up against.
He's going to walk in there.
He's going to go in the Titans.
When Denzel, oh, yeah.
You're all going to be in Pelican Bens.
I'm putting cases on all you bitches.
I'm all you.
I don't know, man.
Like, I don't know.
I don't think I've seen enough to talk about a quarterback change.
Maybe whisper.
No, they don't need a quarterback change.
You just need Donald.
They're not throwing picks in the red zone.
KOC is unconcern.
I think there's two takeaways for me from this game, Chris.
None of them are very football related.
The first one is I feel like Doug kind of knows he's out in Jacksonville.
Some of his media responses post-game have just been getting increasingly like...
Fuck you.
Yeah.
Just like you guys wouldn't be able to understand this play anyway.
I'm not going to tell you about it's like, here's what happened.
That's funny.
And that I don't know, this is a personal take.
This is a little bit of a hater take.
This is a huge hater take.
Mack Jones, just not a likable guy.
I don't know what it is.
I don't know.
I know your boy, Minkovich absolutely does not like him.
He is not likable to me.
And I just am rooting for his downfall.
You know what's crazy?
To piggyback off that, even worse for the Jaguars.
I think the fact that Mack Jones is there, it ruins the Bill Belichick sweepstake.
Because no way in hell, he's going there to deal with Mac Jones.
You know what's funny.
I think they can get rid of Matt.
I don't know.
What if they were like immediate?
What if it's like, Sean Conn's like, sorry, Bill, I'll give him two trillion dollars.
I mean, he said this is the.
best team that he's ever
he they've ever had that and that's got to be the
one of the worst takes ever like one of the
worst ever like just awful
we should put nate and shod Khan in some type of
takeoff take off that'd be great
that's pretty good that's good he's fucking
he fried you right there
sims i think he just got some grease on me
Sam Donald and Mac Jones
have played each other twice in those games
They've combined for 663 yards
One touchdown, nine picks
Two lost fumbles and seven sacks
The year I was in Jacksonville, it's crazy
I think we won
There's typically week 10 games
Yeah, yeah
I think we won like a Monday night game
Or a Thursday night game
Our only primetime game
I think we won with four field goals against
I don't know who
And they only scored a touchdown or field goals
That's crazy
Dude
I played 20 night
Jones, he's a throat punch from Debo in my...
No, the one person that can throat punch him,
he needed to get throat punch the way they ended the game.
Our guy 44...
Oh, what are you talking about? Trayvon?
Yeah, he got a personal foul, like,
to give them a first down to end the game.
Very...
It's frustrating.
Very...
...the team right now.
I got to tell you, I mean...
Thank God that place is next to the beach
so you can walk into the ocean and never come back.
Especially probably frustrating to be on the game.
that team especially as a what was the what was the award we gave out last week the Glenn Mason
yeah yeah that's it has to be especially frustrated to be on that team as a Glenn Ray Simmons on
nominee no I know I know but you know he's going to get paid at some point and people see you at
Trayvon man you you're playing well and then and then I just you know I don't know what else you
can say about that like the Jags man like
It's my old ball coach.
It's our old ball coach.
But everybody knows where this is going.
Right,
Bo?
Like,
we know where this is going.
Yeah.
And it's tough.
I just,
it's like,
why not fire him already?
I mean,
I just don't know.
I don't know why he wouldn't.
It's tough,
man.
I,
fuck, dude.
They just look hapless.
They've looked,
they've looked hapless and like hopeless.
Like,
I think sometimes,
you know,
I asked in London,
I was like,
is the team,
you know,
has Doug lost the locker room?
Has the locker room lost Doug?
you know it's just so bad right now it's wild it's like the team has played so bad at times you brought up
would you bring up just a little bit ago i wanted to piggyback on something you said what was the
factoid you brought up or the point you brought up damn i can't remember it yeah i don't know which one
no i was that man it was a good one it was a good one but you're talking about like aesthetics or just
about like football stuff i don't remember you don't remember okay i got lost in your takes well i got to take
If you might like.
What is it?
So anti-bevel, I'm giving it to Jacksonville.
Yeah.
I didn't like their jerseys.
But.
But.
As much as I didn't like their jerseys, I loved their helmets.
The all white.
The white helmet, the black face mask, and just won the big Jaguar logo.
Like, that's what I said earlier.
I don't know.
I just think less is more.
And like, just one logo is fine.
No stripe.
No extra, whatever.
I think that looked.
I think that looked appeaseless.
other than them losing and looking like dog shit on the field.
So anti-bevel, but a bevel.
But a bevel.
All in one.
The Jags don't need to make it difficult.
They need to wear the get-ups they wore against the Colts every week.
Yeah.
It's just, I mean, like, how easy would that be?
We'd all be happy.
Anyways, man, the Vikings, they need better play to the quarterback.
That's it.
That's what, you know, that's what Bo was talking about.
I mean, it's a mistake.
Early in the season, they made a lot of mistakes in the,
the red zone he he made close to a lot of mistakes in the red zone there were balls where he got
away with it and we said hey he's got to clean this stuff up early in games um yeah this was a
this just turned in one of those did you see the uh cam robinson play um he uh on the whole shit
yeah and like i wonder if there was any like damn he got out mm damn he's on the you know
and maybe he gave it back like i was the one who's yeah look at me no look at me i'm way happier now
my game beat you 12-7.
And we just got done with a month where we lost twice in a row,
came out of the buy week and barely,
what,
what they,
how many games they lost now,
two?
Mm-hmm.
You know?
Well,
who'd they play last week?
Indianapolis last week.
Yeah,
they lost Detroit and L.A.
two before.
They looked like shit last week.
They looked like shit this week.
You know,
before the buy was,
it was,
you said,
New York,
or right after the,
after the buy,
it was Detroit and the Rams that they lost to.
been a long month for them.
Like, they're due to break out of this thing.
Who, um, you know, kudos to them for winning when they're in a slump.
Honestly, that, that, you know.
And who was it on the Vikings?
I want to give them a shout out for doing the, the Ray Guy celebration.
Oh, that was hilarious.
What do you do?
He did the celebration of the Raygun.
Oh, Raygun.
Ray Guy.
Ray Guy.
I was like, what did you fuck the ball?
Ray guy.
It was Cam Bynum.
Shout out Cam.
Byne him.
The Raygun.
Did Raygun?
Did Raygun retire?
Oh, I heard you retire.
You know, I almost feel bad for her, but I don't.
She retired on top.
On top.
I love that.
For real, dude.
Look at her.
She retired on top.
Bro, he did this like so perfectly.
I think this so fun.
That was awesome.
It's so great.
All right.
The Rizzy game.
A little hate week.
Before we get going for the Saints, I got a best seat award.
And that's for the Saints social media director.
Brances tweeted out something.
And you did like hashtag Saints.
So it attached the like the saints.
The Fleur de Lee.
Yeah, the Fleur de Lee.
Precisely, Cowboy.
To it.
And then they had some bon with it after on social me.
I thought that was pretty funny, man.
And they got a huge win too.
Like,
guys.
Awesome.
I forgot to give my worst flight.
Yep.
Bo.
Since Auburn.
They're basketball.
Oh, my shit.
Did I?
Did I?
Auburn plane returned back home due to horseplay between players on the flight that could have escalated into a fight.
Sounds like it did.
Source told at field of 68, this was Jeff Goodman.
Auburn was about 45 minutes en route and had to return home.
Source said they were expected to take another plane to Houston later tonight.
Tigers play Houston tomorrow night.
How'd that game go?
Auburn won.
Mark Titus has a great breakdown on all.
Does he?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, all by one.
And supposedly, because my homeboy, he works for OTE, Overtime Elite,
and supposedly this kid is like a fiery kid.
Yeah.
He can jump out this gym and he's a good, he's a good player.
Yeah.
Can I miss a free throw in practice?
No, no, he's like, no, it's more, it's more that he's an, he's an ultimate hater.
He thinks he's very good.
So, like, when other guys are good around him.
Oh, this inside intel.
Yeah, inside intel.
Really?
Yeah.
But, like, also, like, if you see the game before, there's guys.
on the team that are hitting shots and him on the court, he's visibly like, like,
against Vermont. He has like the worst body. Like, bro, you would be like, yo, like, what the hell?
And the guy who's hitting shots? I know, he said about Kelly Ubrey. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I don't know,
I don't know the NBA, but I went and sat at a game and I was like, he doesn't look happy to get,
not get the ball. Like he's kind of frustrated. They just scored. Me, me, me, me guys.
There's some time there's guys. I'm not saying UBray's a me, me, me guy. But some guys are like that. Like,
hey, I want my points.
If I'm open, like, I don't care if we scored.
Like, that ball should have went to me.
Yeah.
But the fact that they got in a fight and the pilot,
I can just imagine the plane was probably shaking, right?
I'll turn this damn plane around.
If he did it.
The plane's not shaking.
You don't think so?
Like, if me and you were on a flight and we start, like,
get into a fight, you don't think it would affect the plane.
This guy's a little bit.
No?
Bro, I don't think you and I would shake a Cessna.
Bro, when I'm on a small plane, like, they make you,
planes from here, because of the turbulence on the outside,
from here to Charlotte, like, weight things.
Like, they'd be making you move seats because of weight distribution and stuff like that.
I understand, but I'm assuming with, you know, a college basketball team,
you know, the Embra Air is not full to the point where, like, you can't, you know what I mean?
So why would he care to turn the flight around?
I think it's an interesting concept, the thought that we could shake a plane by getting into a fist of,
on the plane.
Maybe.
I don't agree with that take.
You don't think so?
No, I don't think the plane's shaken off to combined 500 pounds riled around in there.
Well, why am I getting moved around on flights for weight distribution then?
Maybe that's a conspiracy.
Maybe.
You ever think about that?
No, but I've gotten moved around.
No, I know.
So do I.
For that.
I'm pretty sure it's a conserved fuel.
Yeah.
That's what I think.
I don't know what it is, but it's not, you know, like, hey, no fighting in the aisles because
it can shake the plane.
I think the problem with fighting in the aisles is like, you don't need chaos at 20, 30,000
feet.
Is that you're on a plane?
Yeah, it's you're on a plane.
It's like snakes are bad enough, but we put them on a motherfucking plane.
Snakes on the plane.
All right.
And the fighting works well into hate week.
Hate week.
Hey, listen.
The poll is, could Chris, could a Nate and Chris fight shake a small?
all playing. Come on, guys.
80% say yes.
We need to call a pilot.
Y'all don't know what you're talking about.
As a former Navy pilot, yes.
Hey, Ashley Taylor, can you please
respond when you hear this question?
How big of a plane does it have to be
for us to not shake it in a fight?
Okay. He said,
Cessna, yeah, 737.
seven no.
Okay.
Embraere probably no.
See,
everybody might.
Let's wait for Ashley's just fine.
You're going to tell me,
Ashley,
that if we were in an F-16,
if I choke-slam Nate,
which is what would happen.
Because my thing is,
how did he,
how did the pilots know that the pilots
know?
Also, Ashley, happy Veterans Day, Ashley.
Yeah,
happy Veterans Day.
You know?
I'm only asking that because I just wonder
if they're up there.
Are you sweating out of your eyes?
Yeah.
The takes.
It's like a contact sport making taste like you've made today, bro.
Your face is sweating.
Oh, my God.
Oh, man, that's so good.
Yeah, it's funny.
But in an embryo, though, Ashley.
All right, I told you, I told you all about these interim head coaches.
I had a parlay yesterday.
Nobody cares.
I had a parlay yesterday.
Moneyline, New England, Moneyline Saints and Moneyline Cardinals.
Selfish.
That's a beautiful.
That played out.
That paid out.
You didn't share it.
Well, you get, because you're mad at me.
You'd be mad at me.
You'd be mad at me.
Nah.
All right.
I'm going to share my whole ticket with you on Sunday next day.
It's not going to work now.
It's been working for a few weeks.
His newsletter is fucking.
While we're on this game, I got a worse.
Good this week?
Go ahead.
Three.
Okay.
Worst seat is, uh, the saints and coaching the locker room for the coaching staff for the saints
pregame where,
interim coach Darren Rizzi admitted that he clogged the toilet before.
Accountability.
Love it.
It's a Louisiana thing, dude.
I told you.
Yeah, but like, why do we need to know that?
I don't know.
I don't get it.
No, he didn't mean.
No, he,
I just want to be clear.
He didn't mean I took a shit so big.
I clogged the toilet.
He's just meaning.
I sounded like it.
My day,
my day started bad.
You know,
the toilet clogged.
You know, it's not always the poop that clogs the toilet.
But look.
But what about this, though?
What is it about getting a new office?
Why is the first thing you want to do is taking shit into your new bathroom?
Well.
That someone else, that someone else, like, just had.
I think he's probably, you think he's got his own bathroom in there in the head coach's office?
I think, yeah.
That's what he was saying.
The head coach's office?
Yeah.
Do you think, would they change offices?
Like, he gets his shit out?
Does he stay where he is?
Hot day.
Dennis Allen clogged the toilet.
He left the bar.
He left the bar.
in there.
For sure.
It was a setup.
It was a classic setup.
Oh,
Dennis Allen called it.
But congrats, man.
You know,
that coach,
I hear everybody likes them down there.
You could tell everybody likes them
the way they played.
It's a really dangerous spot
to play a team like this.
With an interim head coach and the whole thing.
So they blocked a field goal.
It's got to feel good as you're the special teams coach and interim coach and you win by
three.
Dude,
you got to watch out for these special teams coaches,
man.
They really do because it's like,
it's they know everybody in the locker.
They get the most out of the guys, you know.
That's what they're used to.
They're always getting the bottom of the roster and getting the most out of them on special
teams.
And when they become interim head coaches, they know how to get the most out of them emotional.
Real fast, we have some breaking news Nolan found.
There's a sun causing a glare in the Cowboys press conference room.
So there's a shield locking the sun from Mike McCarthy's face.
That is a painting.
That's called poetry.
Can I commission that to be painted?
Our guy, Ace.
Let's check him.
Ace, can you paint me that exact picture?
We have to make a meme, and we have to put the solar death ray guy who just up in the mirror.
That thing I sent you or you sent me.
That said you that guy who's like an ex-scientist.
Send that to Tanner.
We need to get that made.
I put the solar death ray
I put my team in the solar death ray
to see if they can catch a pass.
And then all of a sudden there's like a tiny CD lamb
down there.
Try to catch the fast.
You know how they make Tyler small?
Like make a tiny CD and he's just getting, you know.
But that is so damn funny, bro.
Like the Cowboys, you cannot convince me
it's like we're living in a simulation.
It's incredible.
You want me to tear down the press conference room?
Now you want me to tear the press conference room?
Mike knows where the sun.
gonna be.
This is another game.
Hey, this is another game with a kicker
that might have been deserving of a little,
a little aggression on the sideline
because, hey, again, Koo, you were the man.
You was the man, homie.
First time we played in high school.
You hit four, you hit four field goals.
Yeah.
And then you're gonna miss three?
Well, they had a chance.
Not anybody punch him?
That's what I'm saying.
They missed the opportunity too.
Oh, you would have told over that
if somebody punched him.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
it got you canceled.
Might be.
Yeah.
That would have been a hate crime.
Stop patient hate, dude.
It was a hashtag and a good one.
And you call time out.
Yeah.
Call time out.
Call time out.
Call time out on missing kicks.
That's what he said.
Call time out on missing.
But speaking of my best seat right now, free agent kickers.
Because a lot of kicks, we've been hearing a lot of doinks and guys missing a lot of kicks past
weeks.
And I just feel like if I'm a free agent.
kicker. I'm like, hey.
I could just be 10, though, guys. You know, we talked about
quarterbacks with interceptions week 10.
Yeah, kickers too. Kickers too. Seriously.
Great call, though. And that's indoors.
It's one of the best kickers in the league. Daylight savings.
It's one of the best kickers in the league.
Amen. So anyways, the Falcons,
I know it's a divisional game. I know it's an interim head coach,
but Falcons continue to sort of impress generally and then
not sometimes. Yeah. If you want to,
one of those. Their past rest, there's a huge problem.
They got no real pressure on him.
Oh, man.
Who said that and was a hater?
Mm-hmm. I'm not, I'm not saying like,
this is like, you know, you're not a good team.
You got a shot to get in the playoffs, but like,
they're just like,
they're pretty good, they're not great.
And that, that to me is like,
they're still so close though.
I don't know.
But the Saints had the feel good story of the weekend.
MDS was cut by Buffalo when they traded to Ari Cooper,
and he caught two moonballs in the first half.
Shout out for him.
Good for Derek Carr,
straight off of being dressed down
by a former wide receiver in the middle of a game
where they, you know,
they're in a,
their neck to neck with the Panthers.
Like, you know,
show class to the podium,
came back, got a win.
Good for him.
Yeah.
You know?
Good for coach.
And they're good for MVS.
Speaking of what Matt just said,
that's my STL Memorial going.
Oh, MBS.
SDL Memorial?
Yeah, man.
Got cut by the bills.
The bills are doing well.
You can't feel good.
good, then you get picked back up.
No guarantees, you're gonna get picked back up.
I love it.
You know, you go out there and when you get your number called,
you ball out.
Does, we were talking earlier about how good teams
or great teams find a way to win.
Does the Falcons having multiple chances
at the end of this game?
Does that make you think?
That doesn't put them in that.
No, it's just one game, but if you wanna know why,
if you ask me, who are the contenders in the league
and who are not, I do not put the Falcons
on that list of contending for a Super Bowl,
Because of certain holes in the roster, you know?
I mean, just to be honest.
And if we think back, you know, a couple of games at the Falcons at the beginning of the year,
they were really like, yo, you guys should have lost those games.
You got win totals.
You end up winning them.
They're your wins.
But if you look back at it, you're just like great teams.
They, like, and it's funny if both on both stick, they find a way to win those games.
But you just can't, you can't keep expecting that to happen throughout the season.
No.
No.
Like, it is hate week.
Anything can happen. Hey, we.
Who does Atlanta have next week?
Atlanta plays.
They're at Denver.
That is really interesting.
Yeah.
I wish Atlanta had won because I bet the Broncos,
but the Broncos looked really good in a loss and, you know, Atlanta looked bad.
But this is a game that the Broncos go in there and Kirk Cousins can act when I feel
like he's the best quarterback in the league.
I hate that.
I hate that about guys.
You hate that.
Just lay down sometimes.
Are you a hater?
Big time.
Okay, that's hate.
All right.
Time out.
No hate.
Time out.
Okay, so the flyover games,
zoom.
Yeah.
New England is Chicago.
Shout out to Ashley.
Welcome to O'Hare.
And now a defensive lineman is going to hit you in the face.
That's what it is.
Playing in Chicago,
a really, really tough day for them up.
front took a number of sacks. This is a game.
Nine. Nine. I have not watched you.
I have not watched this game.
Dude. I had it on the side TV nursing this under. And it's the type of game where you just
look away after 10 minutes because you know there's no points.
Fire flus. I think. Let's get him a good cell phone first. Yeah. Let's get him a good cell phone.
That's my fly on the wall. Cutting out. Yeah. What the fuck is going on with his cell phone?
he just asking him hard questions
his cell phone keeps
he's just driving and he's like
I want to
no good for him
you know what I mean
some might call that a coward's way out
but like fuck these people you don't have to answer any questions
you're about to get fired
why don't have to answer any questions
I'm sorry
that's a local radio
it's a dead spot
the dead zone but this is
this is I hate to say it
every week they lose but like this is why
we said it would be a process.
And I do, now, if Bears fans, there was something that happened yesterday where Caleb
looked like he's not the guy in the future any more or less than he has in the past, you know,
nine, ten weeks of season.
I think he's your guy, but I don't think, I think you guys all got a little slice of humble pie
when it comes to how easy it is to just draft the quarterback and it turns around like
immediately.
That's not the case.
You making this move, I was told, we're going to.
compete immediately in the NFC north and in the NFC with this special young quarterback.
The table wasn't set exactly right. It doesn't look like. Shane Waldron has been up and down at
best and Matt Eberflucson and now talking about him, you know, not working for this team next
year. And so like what does that do to a quarterback, a young quarterback? Like, are you going to,
you're going to have to change, you know, play callers. You're going to have to change the head coach.
You're going to. And the worst thing is, like, all this stuff that happened
to a young quarterback, it's not for nothing.
Like it does, it calluses.
You know, it calluses on your mentality.
It calluses on, you know, the way you play free.
It caluses your confidence.
It's enough to be under a lot of pressure externally.
Then when you're under pressure on the field,
you build bad habits.
You don't do the right things.
And, you know, I said what I had to say about DJ more last week
in the way he conducted himself.
And it wasn't just him walking off the field.
It's been like a number of things.
The vibes have not seem good.
in this in this particular building and now i don't know if they're going to make the playoffs
you know there there was a time where i was like hey there's a wildcar team as good as the damn
defenses and as sharp as this kid can look when he's dialed in i don't know patriots though
they've got to be proud man i've heard way too many people casually tell me jerob mayo's a bad
coach i've i've heard way too many people tell me that this year i'm not saying he's he's the next
coach but what I am saying is give the guy a fucking chance what was the win total you're
now at how many wins three three it was four and a half the hell are they doing winning though right
now I don't know that's part of trying to coach your ass off like they have a franchise quarterback
they don't they don't need they don't need a number one next year they don't no they don't
you tank for quarterbacks in my opinion you don't you really don't tank like as a player
but like if you're going to make if you're going to be less aggressive and you think
thinking about your draft status.
Like to me,
there's a number of places this team can get better next year in the draft.
Like the luck,
the thing that you're lucky about is you have a quarterback who's looked like probably a
guy that you want to pour into in the future.
And good on drop mail.
You're trying to develop a young quarterback that tanking does nothing.
You know,
like develop your quarterback through trying to show him the right way to do,
you know,
to proceed through the NFL football season,
try to make him better,
more comfortable. You don't want to tank and do that. You don't want to ruin his development.
You made a good point there. The point is when you go to that quarterback and you play him and we all
said, hey, you're going to get him killed. And, you know, like he has nearly gotten killed a couple
times, but they're playing the guy. You are saying we are trying to build that culture. We're
trying to win games. We're, you know, like, so to me, at this point, it's now about, like,
if you're Dharob Mayo, I'm sorry. But a young.
young black coach does not have that luxury in his head. I can almost guarantee you that of like,
oh, I'm going to tank my first year. Now, you can say, hey, we're past all that. Bullshit, because I can't
tell you how many people have come to me and been like, Gerard Mayo can't coach. I'm like, what's your
evidence? Like, we don't know yet. I know the defense has not been as good. And a lot of the same guys
and Bill poured water on that fire. But I'm a Gerard fan as a dude. And I think he's extremely young.
and a guy that, you know, stepped in a little bit, called his team soft,
but then I'm pretty sure the conversations behind closed doors were very effective
because they've come out and played pretty well.
And kudos to this team.
Going on the road, beating a team that we were like, oh, oh,
greatest show on turf.
They're going to run through people.
They have Roma Dunzee.
They have older Keenan Allen.
They have DJ Moore who's not interested in being there.
They have two running backs.
They have everything but the O line.
and we'll figure that out on the fly.
How about Unique in Gacquay?
He didn't play in this game,
but getting picked up by the Patriots,
everybody flamed the Patriots for it,
and then they go out and get nine sacks.
No, that's great.
It's great.
Good for unique.
I mean, like, good for, I'm just,
Pat's fans are not used to waiting
for things like this, young Pat's fan.
You're building something there.
I'm not saying, you know,
you're going to be a Super Bowl team in a year or two,
but like you got a quarterback,
that we think looks good enough to be the guy.
And your team is scrapping, man.
They're playing hard for their coach.
The vibe on this team, they got three wins.
How many wins does the Jets have?
Three, same record.
Your screen's not glitching.
I'm just staring at you.
The Patriots have the same record as the Jets.
I want to give Girard Mayo a little bit of love.
I want to give Drake May a little bit of love,
and I want to give that team a little bit of love
because nobody expect them to do a damn thing.
and the vibes in that locker room
are totally different than the vibes in New York.
Same win-loss column.
It's easily explainable
when you think your window's opening your three-win team,
but this team should be commended
for being tough and going on the road and getting a win.
Let me give a shout-out real quick.
We talked a little bit about some badger linebackers
in the NFL that are playing well.
Leo Chenola had that big block kick.
Zach Bond's been bawled out for the birds.
T.J. Edwards for the Bears.
13 tackles, seven solo tackles.
Pretty sure he had a pick too,
a past defendant.
He's been playing really well for the Bears too,
so I want to give him some love.
Wisconsin.
Next flyover game.
Chargers against the Titans.
Zero.
Did not see a second of this year.
Did anybody see this?
Will,
will.
Chalmers are good.
Will Levis.
Tell me what,
I'm big on the charters.
Tell me who the team comparison for the charters in the AFC is.
didn't we do this with the did we do this recently i feel like we had a comp for them uh we had a comp for
no we're we're we're a company else well i was they have a top five they have a top five defense
yeah steelers are close i mean they already played and it felt like the spider man meme oh you said
in the area i think i was i was going to cross the yeah but jason herber's balling right now yeah
he's good and barba is absolutely sucking him off in the media he should be talking about him
Pat McAfee show.
And I was going to say, exactly, he should be, dude.
He played well.
And Will Leves actually played pretty well in this game, too.
I kind of, anytime he's out there.
His second touchdown pass to Ridley was really, really pretty.
Really good ball.
Fade to the corner.
Would you take the Jets or the Patriots right now?
Yes or no?
That's a good poll.
These polls, they don't update the yes or the, when I type them in.
So I.
Without having seen this game, I'll just repeat what I've been saying about this team,
which is you got an elite quarterback, elite quarterback.
Elite O line.
Elite O line.
You got two tackles that can block their asses off.
Zero sacks.
You've got a top five defense.
Why not?
Seven sacks.
Charter said seven sacks.
Why not?
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're going to be a playoff team, dude.
They're good.
Six and three right now.
They're in the six spot.
The thing I said before the season about Jim Harbaugh is this.
Now, I didn't pick him to go to the playoffs, hand up.
So as I ride the wave on this team, like certainly, not, I didn't tell you so.
But I did tell you Jim Harbaugh, having played against him in the NFC West,
turned that group around fast.
He turned that group around fast in San Francisco.
And they were physical immediately.
They were competitive immediately.
I think they won like 13 games his first year.
And that was a strike sort in season.
So something to remember about Jim.
Jim Harbaugh is he knows how to install a culture.
We know that.
And he knows how to do a lot with quote unquote a little
because this brand of football still plays.
And you talk about like the speed with which you get to 60 miles an hour for Jim Harbaugh.
You know, the build can be shorter if it's this guy with the headset.
Because obviously it happened in San Francisco.
That was not a great team that he took over.
It was not a discipline team.
They had a lot of veterans.
But, you know, it was like a team where you have.
haven't been together in camp because it was straight short in season. You miss training camp.
Like that stuff matters a lot. And they came out and they were competitive as fuck.
He turned he he he's the reason. Colin Kaepernick's the reason, but but so is Jim. Like that team,
the confidence he instilled in that at that time that kid, I'll never forget like playing
against Alex Smith. They were a great team with him. We knocked Alex Smith out. That's how
Cap comes in the game. And this dude played them next week. Yeah. And he had like six touchdown.
Yeah, sorry about that.
Something crazy.
You can blame Jelan Dunbar.
But this dude runs out with an afro and I'm like, who is this guy?
Well, he at that point, didn't have an, but he runs out there and he's running away from
motherfuckers and we're like, who is this guy?
He's pretty good.
Like, I don't like rushing this guy.
And then the throws he made, Jim gave him confidence.
He gave everybody on that team confidence.
You can see the way this team operates.
They weren't supposed to be anybody this year.
They were supposed to be just a team building
and with a fun quarterback and nobody on offense.
Helps to nail your first draft.
McConkey's good.
It helps to nail your first draft.
Here's what they did in the draft.
You remember the Bengals when they were like,
oh, do we pick?
Option A, option B.
Okay.
Well, it's binary and it was.
And they survived.
Like Joe's gotten killed,
but like Jamar Chase has helped a lot.
And Penn A. Sewell is in Detroit
and that's worked out as well.
Now, for them, they got the stud tackle, and they found tremendous value on a Y receiver.
Like, they got both guys.
It's a great first draft.
Great.
Where'd that guy work before, before L.A.?
Baltimore Ravens.
Joe Hortez.
He knows what he's doing.
Jim knows what he's doing.
Greg Roman knows what he's doing.
And I think, I think Justin getting healthy is more of why it took a while to get them to throw the ball.
and open up the offense.
So now you're seeing a fully formed team.
Fun, fun, fun.
Last, our final flyover game, Carolina against the New York Giants in Germany.
Speaking of flyover, that is actually my worst flight for New York football giants flying back from Munich.
You have an overtime chance, right?
And you just immediately squander it and hop your asses on a football.
flight head home that's a long flight you we don't love that you're two and eight on a flight like
that losing an overtime kind of a heartbreaker bad flight yeah but the good news is you're one
day closer to the season being over um because this is brutal for this team and i was on the flight
i woke up with a massive hangover sunday morning in bad ruse got in the car and like just turned
on youtube tv on my phone like and i'm i think i'm going to watch like a pre-game
show and i forgot about this game and i'm like holy shit they're off in germany and immediately it was
like the daniel jones is everything that people say he is show i mean like i was in the air
refreshing the score app and there were situations i was like surely they're going to score now and it
it was intercepted red letters every time or turnover what like what what what the fuck yeah what was the
assessment. I didn't see.
Bad. My assessment
was that we should have named Brian
Dave or the Glenn Ray Simmons list.
Like he would love to have been traded
the deadline.
Ever possible. Hey, Kyle Long's in here.
I think, unless it's a different
Kyle Long, Kyle, prove your Kyle Long.
That's him. I recognize. Yeah, his
test. Yeah, so, so, oh yeah,
yeah, yeah. So, hey, Nate,
you're going to hit him back.
I was about to put Kyle Long in the chat.
How's your kids?
Hide your wife.
Hide your kids.
Hide your wife.
No, but I really do think that, like I said yesterday,
it's like a fucking act of war sending those two teams over.
NATO should have something to say.
They're going to be talking about this in the parliament.
Our buddy, Chris Allen, said both teams should just stay over there.
No.
And really hurt him even more.
No, no, no.
No, we want those teams back.
Because I do have fun watching shitty football.
Remember that.
Like there's some.
And Chuba Hubbard's a beast, man.
Yeah.
Chuber Hubbard's a beast.
I got a lot of respect for running backs that are on bad teams and just got to gut it out.
You know what I don't like?
What?
When a guy like Chuber Hubbard and he's a running back and he's on the ground and he's the best player on your team, when he's on the ground, I want old liming, running over, rushing to help him up.
Like every single play, bro.
Every single play.
that's your best guy.
That's the best chance for you guys have to have to win.
No, I know.
Take care of him.
He should punch them.
Like something.
Hey, Kyle,
pro punched that.
Kyle,
Kyle,
since you're in the chat,
I just want to keep you posted on what's been going on at your old place from employment.
Nate is,
is pro big windows in Jerry's world.
He is pro-debo punching his teammate.
And he,
what else?
Kyle's on my side,
too.
Me and Kyle fought.
We got kicked out of a practice.
He,
he understands.
He knows.
You're talking about practice.
He knows when you're frustrated sometimes.
You just got to get it out.
And then your friends again.
Your brothers.
I don't know that Pepper and Samuel are ever going to be friends again.
That felt like one of those situations.
Even if they, here's what's going to happen there.
Kyle Shanahan's going to be like, Debo.
I know he's just a fucking snapper.
But you got to go apologize.
It's a bad look.
I'm telling you.
That's what's happening.
And then Debo's going to go apologize.
And Pepper, because he's just a fucking snapper,
is going to be like, oh, it's all good, man, just water under the bridge.
But he hates Debo now.
Or, guaranteed.
In the perfect world, the snapper says Debo.
Me and you, one-on-one.
No cameras, let's just get it out.
And he works Debo out.
You got Pepper?
Hey, lock snappers be lifted too, man.
Kyle said he never touched a snapper.
I, with this game, this Germany game, I want to give a hollow man to this gentleman who attempted, not different, different hollow man, this gentleman who attempted a beer chug.
Oh no.
And poured it right down his face and got booed in the stadium.
No.
Boo.
Oh, we didn't finish yet.
Oh, we didn't finish it.
Oh, we didn't finish it.
Oh.
that's pretty good
not gonna lie
you know what that kind of looks like
what does it look like
someone who didn't finish
their beer in flip cup
oh I didn't finish my beer
I didn't finish my beer
he finished the beer
he just the flip part
was the heart
yeah I fucked up the flip
yeah yeah
the beer there was no
no no no no no no no
not flip cup
no no no no no no no I said it wrong
you didn't finish the beer in the boot
for the chug
right or wrong
this more hair left in the boot
there was beer left though you're you definitely
you're definitely on barstool side
you're a barstool tight guy definitely not so so
yeah you are so so at the bottom of the boot
there was like this much beer left and I got
fucked on a technicality
I mean you would have got booed too
no it's not the same it didn't look like it
you just you just
how about an STL memorial for a dumpster
fired day
STL memorial for Sean Hockey I don't know if you guys saw this
Yeah.
Is it a false start call?
Talking about Spreckency.
In Germany.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
But did you see why?
Yeah.
Did you see why?
He was trying to one up.
That's his dad.
He was trying to one up his dad years ago when he played in Mexico.
He made a call in Spanish.
How about that?
How about that?
Yeah, he did.
He was like a callback to his dad.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
He was also bilingual.
Yeah, I guess.
You know?
Shout to the Hockey family.
German seems way harder to.
No shouting out referee.
I appreciate the style points.
Me too.
No, but it was cool.
It was cool.
It was cool.
It was like a little like, sorry, a little olive branch.
Sorry we sent you like two of the worst teams that we have offered professional American sports.
They should apologize for that beer chug.
Anyway.
Yeah.
Oh, here we go.
You're going to thank BEDMGM one more time.
My eyes are sweating like Nate's eyes.
Yeah.
These lights, man.
Yeah, once I turn that AC down.
Yeah.
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bet mgm moments you guys want to wrap up with any we didn't hit you uh everybody needs a game
ball so i haven't gotten a game ball oh game ball my game boy he's going to mike williams yeah
i was going to do that too no i'm going to give it to mike williams touchdown to win the game
mike williams and um god who else fucking deserved it we should probably hand out two i don't want to be
you know i think a lot of people are sitting by their lockers like or are we're going to get the green light
game ball i'm giving a game ball to leo chanall that's a smart guy to pick up uh on on knowing knowing
knowing who to attack on that um on the field goal attempt no shit no shit okay all right so chanall's
going we're ready for shoot bow hit me team put a wing on it red bull flu talk specifically jacob petway
our fearless pilot.
This guy flew down,
or sorry,
drove our contraption
from Nashville to Tampa,
built it over 120 hours
over like six days in a garage in Sefner,
which is like 30 minutes outside of Tampa.
That's right.
An unbelievable job.
And we had a fun time,
didn't we, Cowboy.
We had a great time.
It was good.
The weather was hot.
And I'm glad I didn't jump into the bay
for that bathwater,
but it was sick.
I'm going to give a game ball.
to Rizzi.
Nice.
Interim head coach.
Love it.
Congratulations.
Nate, what's our viral moment of the week?
Our viral moment of the week is going to my spirit animal, which is Janice Anta Tupo.
He's your spirit animal?
Bro.
After getting an offensive foul and elbowing.
You're like Galen Brown.
You're more like Dylan Brooks.
Bro.
An elbowing.
Honestly, I found your NBA cop.
It's Dylan Brooks.
Bro, bro, listen, after elbowing Jalen Brown in the face, he does this walking down the court.
Remind it, bro.
Show me, show me.
Look.
Imagine someone elbowing you in the head, knocking you to the ground, and then you think they're going to give you a handshake.
I didn't see the elbow.
And you childishly pull your hand back and do that.
I think that is hilarious.
I did not.
I did not see the elbow.
And then proceed to give the team 40 and 15.
So on top of that, Giannis had 40 points of 15.
At the end, though, does he go for, look, he like fakes the, fakes it?
And then he goes and does a real, a real one.
No.
But Jalen Brown doesn't do it.
So that makes it even better.
It's out of frame.
I don't think you can sell.
I think he, I think he did.
Bet MGM tonight.
Fax is for sure, Pat Bev.
I like Pat Bev.
I'll take that.
No, he's too good at offense.
Pat Bab's too good at offense.
You're going to be podcasting Israel next season.
Yeah, pretty much.
Don't send me to Israel.
That was a good one, Matt.
No, Israel would be.
I'd come with you.
Tel Aviv.
I'll go to Tel Aviv.
It looks beautiful out there.
You guys got to lean in this game tonight.
A lot of the public's betting the Rams.
I think it's a dolphin spot, unfortunately.
Oh, I like that.
But, you know, if it's not a dolphin spot,
I got that going for me too.
Okay.
So first touchdown guy.
Perfect hedge.
Pick the dolphins and then if they don't win, I'm right anyways.
First touchdown.
The tight end's always open.
We're going with Jono Smith tonight.
Have you hit one of these yet?
Yeah.
It was Thursday night.
Really?
Yep.
Who was it?
It was a Pittsburgh anytime defense or special team.
Oh, yes.
Remember that?
What?
They didn't score.
No one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No one scored a touchdown until the second half.
and it was like a pun return or kickoff.
Dude, we did a whole game.
Shout out to this podcast.
Did a whole podcast without any LeBron Times Hennessy.
Oh, fuck.
That's good for us.
That's not today, though.
Good for us.
Today's not the day we've been drinking.
No, yeah, he has.
Oh, you have?
You're here, aren't you?
I'm not here when you eat, when you drink that, though.
I must be upstairs.
Are you on the podcast?
Friday.
Then I drink.
Okay.
No, but I had too much this weekend.
I'm not touching it.
You know, so shout out to LeBron times Hennessy.
Oh yeah, and shout out to LeBron hearing a fan scream at him.
I didn't see that.
One more rebound, one more rebound.
What he do?
And he gets it for a triple double, but I think that fan hit a parlay.
Oh, really?
He did.
And after he missed a rebound, Braun, like, points to the fan and it goes back up.
No way.
This is why LeBron's, this is why he's the best basketball player of all time because
Michael Jordan, he stopped to bet games.
He retired.
to bet and to bet and LeBron's like no I'm going to help you guys help you bet yeah Michael
Michael Jordan selfish because he's like I want to bet for me that's pretty good that's
like I'm a help everybody yeah yeah and that's what he's doing that's pretty damn cool I would
have just let the ball go out of bounds and been like fuck you don't tell me what to do I'm
LeBron Jane LeBron Jay uh hey y'all thank you so much for being on the in the chat we love you
we love you Friday 930 a.m. Eastern right here
What's somebody asked what's for dinner? No idea. Every time this show ends, I can't believe it's 5.15.
I'm starving. Let's go eat. I'm hungry. Take care. I'll eat.
