Green Light with Chris Long - NFL WK12 Recap & Power Rankings! Herbert & Burrow Shine, Mike White's Brilliance. College Football Playoff Scenarios.

Episode Date: November 28, 2022

(2:28) - America's Teams, Green Light's NFL WK12 Power Rankings & Thanksgiving Gambling. (29:00) - NFL WK12 Best Games: Titans vs Bengals, Chargers vs Cardinals, Eagles vs Packers, Buccaneers vs Browns & Ravens vs Jaguars. (1:09:28) - NFL WK12 Best of the Rest: NYJ vs Bears & Raiders vs Seahawks. (1:34:04) - Miller Lite Mentions! (1:46:20) - Nicole Auerbach Breaks Down the CFB Playoff Seedings, The Scenarios for Each Contender, Heisman Trophy Candidates & Revels in her Michigan Victory Over the Team Down South. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b   Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42   Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1   Green Light with Chris Long:   Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. https://www.greenlightpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And in Michigan, 1-800-2707117. Tennessee, y'all 2. 1-8009-9-8789. Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. NFL week 12 How about these couple of goat quarterbacks losing? We had Tom Brady go down a week after we were talking about how good he was. We had Aaron Rogers go down a week after we were talking about how good he was.

We passed in the torch because Justin Herbert had a pretty spectacular game yesterday. Patrick Mahomes too. How about Mike White? Is it too early to pass a torch to Mike White? If I were a Jess fan, I'd pass all my torches to Mike White. We'd give you a power rankings update. The most powerful power rankings in the land. We'll do America's teams.

We'll do our Miller Light mentions. We're going to start sounding the horns for a couple teams that are officially out of the playoffs, the green light out of the playoff teams. We are back tomorrow morning with Bo Allen. Make sure to check that out, and y'all enjoy. I'm bummed it's over. It's a freaking great holiday.

I mean, you get to eat awesome food. You see only the people that you truly like. You don't eat eliminate. Yeah. I'm projecting. No, who'd you spend Thanksgiving with? My wife and my daughter. That's good.

Everybody else is on the shit list. Well, you know what I'm saying? We've forsaken everybody else. We did try to get together with you for Thanksgiving. Did we? Yeah. I forget. Yeah.

We had plans. That's what's great about Thanksgiving. It also might be the fact that I lost like $4 this week. What? Yeah, Kyle. What do you think I have? It's a lot of Jumanji. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But now we're only down small. on the year. That's going to get bleeped out. For sure. The number's going to get bleeped out. That's a service we do for the town here at the Green Light Five. A lot is a lot though. Yeah, it's a lot, but if you're up a lot, you know, the Vikings, you know, Vikings, Bill's, Kyle, but you know what? This weekend was terrible. I'm just going to, I'm just going to lay this out for you real quick. It started Thanksgiving with the Giants, Cowboys under the way that that, the way

late touchdown. Late touchdown. Okay. so Chase Long was out. Undisciplined. Thanksgiving teasers. We had Giants Under. We had a huge parlay and Florida State. Fourth and 18 backed up. Just fucking don't let them convert.

The next day we got Georgia. Georgia was fucking Lazarus. They were dead. And then they came back to life. They had a chance to cover. They had all their white receivers in and fucking. 35 points. White running backs.

Yeah, they had the ball with a chance to cover. I'm like, what the fuck are we doing? That was a theme this week. because white guy's bawling in obscurity. Well, Notre Dame lost, Kyle. They weren't balling on the big stage because I bet Notre Dame. The whole country was on Notre Dame,

but then the whole panel was on USC, so you were thinking to yourself, like, who do I fade the panel or the public? You know what I mean? Typically the public. Yeah, well, we didn't fade the public because a goddamn Big Cat in his game of the year. I'm like, you know what I'm going to ride with Big Cat one time?

And then after the game of the year, Big Cat gave me a great pep talk. He said, you know what? This is your one. one vice, don't apologize for it. Wow. It was one of two or three vices. But this is the biggest one.

And then BYU blind went to sleep at halftime. We got us back in the game. And I'm thinking, you told me, you said, no problem. Man in the arena. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep taking swings. Keep hacking at it.

BYU was a free play at Stanford. So we kept hacking at it yesterday. And it just continued to get worse and worse. But hey, listen, you know what I did last night? Make, you ever walk outside and look up at the star? Sometimes. Yeah. I felt really fucking small.

My problems are small. I'm just a monkey with some fake money. A granite sand on a beach. I lost some of it. It's not even real yet. It's not real. I look up at the stars and appreciate the stars, but I don't get the,

I don't get the I feel small thing. Oh, man, I really do. It really helped, man. It was like, I got home last night. I just, it was beautiful, too, by the way. Really nice night. Yeah, it's a beautiful night. Okay.

So let's go, I just wanted to get that out there. I wanted to, it was like therapy for me. It was good, man. It was a nice night, too. It was a pretty night. Yeah, it was a nice night. America's teams, who wants to start?

I'll start. South Carolina Gamecocks. Now, you know of my personal animus with its head coach, Shane Beamer. He and I have a long history and don't get along particularly well. But credit what credits do. 94 points in wins over number 5, Tennessee,

and number 8. eight Clemson. That's impressive. Moving right along. Oregon State Beaver's. Now the beavers can tweet things like so damn sweet and leave off the end and damn because beavers damn things up. That's cool. If they were rolled damn tied, you drop the end. Yeah, y'all aren't understanding. No, I get it. I get it. They were trailing 3110 late in the third, 3417 early in the fourth, I left my phone. Chris, I had given you Oregon State, and I felt really bad about it.

I said, sorry. Sorry, because they were getting run out of the gym by the Oregon Ducks, Kyle's Oregon Ducks. But then, damn, if, there you go, damn, if the Beavers, who started quarterback was 6 of 13 for 60 yards and two picks, they win the football game without throwing the ball.

Special teams. It was unbelievable. And your guy, Dan Lannning, just throwing caution to the win because he thought he had a big chunky lead. Okay, New York Jets, White Mike. We decided early Sunday that Jets minus

325 was also a free play and so we did it. We heard it was going to be Peterman. It wasn't. It was Simeon. Holy shit, dude. What are we doing? I know. Bad information. What are we doing? All over the place. No, like what are we doing? You can't just tweet that Nathan Peterman is going to

play. It changes the game because Kyle's told us. Everybody's weak. Backup quarterback, people lock in a little bit. Well, Peterman, you can't overcome Peterman. No, but this was the classic, hey, one backup quarterback was an infusion of energy and hope in Mike White. And one was like, oh, shit, especially if it was fucking, because Justin Fields is their whole damn team.

Right. So, you know, Simeon was a safe play, but Peterman was like, hey, I don't even have to watch the game. Exactly. The Bears' offense is battery powered where the Jets offense has a massive engine and the quarterback is a spark plug. Small piece makes the whole thing go. But Justin Fields is the whole thing. Garrett Wilson really good. Really good.

That defense really good. And we had to sweat it for a quarter. Then we were good. A quarter and a half, I was sweating. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Iran. Okay. The Iran soccer team plus 285.

And you can't be changing country's flags around America. All right? And then walk it back and say, well, it was only going to be for 24 hours. You liars, America. You freaking liars. You wanted to, you wanted to, get on your high horse about their their atrocities and whatnot. Line, what else do they do?

Line. Being bad to women. Bad to women. Iran. Get on Iran plus 285. They got a bunch of nukes too. Shame on you. Yeah, exactly.

Thanks. And finally, Yukon. I owed this from a couple weeks ago when Yukon beat the Libs. You were in Vegas. Yeah. And became bowl eligible. It looks like maybe the deluxe. Luth trading Cure Bowl or maybe the Gasparilla Bowl.

Gasparilla is still hanging around? Yeah, for Jim Moore and the boys. And the Hoops team is very good. Where am I supposed to go spend my monies on the Gasparilla Bowl? You know how every bowl game is a title is a call to action to spend your monies? Yeah, I didn't see one for Gasparilla. Gasparilla? Yeah, what is that?

What is it? What is it? What is it? It's a flower, I think. Oh, okay. It's the Union Home Mortgage Gasparilla Bowl this year. Okay. What town is it in?

Gasparillas in Tampa, Florida. See, that's great. A lot to do there. It's a flower. Beautiful weather that time of year. Could be Yukon and Duke. It'll be electric. What is a Gasparilla? Fine question. Is everybody walking around pretending like we know what the fuck Gasparilla means?

There's a Gasparilla Pirate Festival in Tampa. It's amazing. Oh, it's a place. It's a mythical Spanish pirate. Is it really? And a college football ball game played in Tampa. Those two things. And my next Warcraft. Go hand in hand. Peanut Butter and Jelly. Yukon Hoops just beat Oregon, Alabama and Iowa State over

long weekend. Donovan clinging, good player. Shout out K2, a bunch of huskies. Hey, if this is on a graphic, I want the old, I want the, I want the all white dog that's not even a husky. It looks like a, it looks like a golden retriever. Yeah, I know the one. It's better. Yeah, it has a little red tongue hanging out. Those are my America's

What do you want for Iran? The real flag, not deleting any parts of the flag. I want the Iran national flag. Not women's rights? No, I love women's rights. He's a complicated man. Loves Iran. loves women's rights, loves Thomas Jefferson, hate slavery.

He's just a complicated man. Yeah. Didn't we name the Ucon Husky? Did we name the Yukon Husky with Jim Mora? Yeah, Orlo. That's right. Yeah, give me Orlo the Husky. There we go.

Yep. Oh yeah, how's that? That blew up. A lot of people cared about that. We were like, damn, we got our guy to name the Husky. Well, it would have helped if he actually named the Husky orlo. I don't think he actually did that. Yeah, you're right.

Can we look up? It's like that busing with the boys. bowl game. Jim Mora named is Husky. With the Boys Bowl. They're like, no, no, no. This is what it's called. Like, no, they're not even out at midfield.

Jim Mora named the Husky on our show. It's unofficial. We had hoped. It's an unofficial husky name. So my America's team is obviously number one, the hottest team in football right now. I think if they end up going to the Super Bowl, I might go in a fan capacity.

I'm not even a fan of this team, but I'm an American. The Dallas Cowboys. boys. He's going to run the table again. Yankees. Number two. What do Americans love more than a good deal?

Guns. An underdog story. The Houston Texans. My number two, America's team, because their stock is at an all-time low and you can buy, buy, buy, and that's what Americans are going to do.

They're going to end up with the number one pick, and they're going to fall in love with this young Texas team. And they're going to miss Caleb Williams by a year. Number three, TCU, Is that kind of the shared? No, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. So, and I want to throw that in.

Who are they going to get? K-State? Do we know that yet? Yeah, it's K-State. It doesn't matter. They're horned up. Yeah. Right.

You know what I'm saying? The Jets, Mike White. Blood out of your eyes. People love turmoil, you know, backup quarterbacks. And it was just the rainy game. You know, everybody loves a rainy game and beating up on an inferior opponent. The Bears didn't have Justin Fields.

They were getting decimated with injury the entire game. The Jets just kept their foot on the gas pedal. There's nothing more. than that. Number five, municipal workers, city workers, I don't know their names, but we're in the holiday season right now, and I want to say a big thank you to everybody in all the towns, small and large across the United States of America. You're always sucking VDOT's dick, Kyle. Putting up Christmas lights, because when you drive around the town, you go get your Starbucks fucking coffee in the morning, you see that, oh gosh, look what they did last night. They lit up those

poles. They look beautiful. Thank you to you, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, you left out VDOT this time. Yeah, it's a different, you know, different. I was thinking about that. last night I was scrambling for an America's team. I'm like, what, I agree with Keith in Kansas City. What the fuck is this segment even? You know? You're paying for that. Your tax

dollars, you're paying for that. And it's worth it. You're paying for that snowflake. That's worth it. I'll take a little serotonin infusion during the darker months. There's other ways to get that. That's a good take. I like, I like them too. That's a wholesome take, Kyle. You know, you're a fucking good guy, Kyle.

Mine, it's a big... The Chiefs. Very good. Also really nice about beating bad teams and quarterbacks that we want to see do good on a big stage. They were nice about the kid from Liberty. They were nice about our Bryce Perkins. Yep.

Made sure to not cover the spread. Yep. 16.5. Let Bryce Perkins throw a touchdown. That was really nice. And the number one in the Greenlight Pod power ranking. Yep. So there you go.

Dynamite segue. Let me get through these other four fucking America's teams. All right, South Carolina, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Spencer Rattler, best two-week run, outlier run for any college football player this year. Maybe the lights come on. Yeah, maybe.

It's bound to with a name like Spencer Rattler. But yeah, like you beat Tennessee. That's a lot of fun. Well, let me do something even more fun. We'll go to Clemson with Dabo Sweeney sprinting down the hill before anybody else. And then taking a massive L. Vegas was begging you.

to take South Carolina because they thought it was going to be a blowout. 14, 14.5. 14 and a half. It was a tailor-made, don't bet South Carolina. They just beat Tennessee. Clemson's undervalued,

whatever the fuck. And nah, not true. Run back up the hill, Davo. That would be great. That would be funny. After they lose, Davo should have to spread back up the hill. If he wants to be accountable,

is that an example? Yeah. On all fours. It's right back into his bowling alley. Like a Amaculated tiger He really In cagies

Yeah He should be naked Not he should be naked It's getting weird Naked on all four I just had it running up the hill It's getting weird now He's got to sit on the rock

Yeah Until everybody's left the stadium Yes that's good Yeah That's good Yeah I'm with it He's got to embrace the transfer portal

In the NIL process Well he's going to Anyway He's going to do a Coach K thing You know where Coach K, he was all anti, yeah, you know what I mean. All right, so where he's all anti-one-and-done

and then became like Mr. One-and-Dun, for sure. It's going to be the same thing with Davo. I see the value. Okay, Broncos, rich history. He did say he wasn't going to coach, right? He was like, I won't coach. That would be great.

People are making money. He said that before they started. That would be great. Sorry. No, so I'll go Broncos because I was damn near out of teams. So they're a lot like America. Rich history, right? Kind of maybe some people,

think they peaked in the 90s a little bit. They're big spenders. They have a strong defense and they're led by a guy with a low approval rating and he was better on the last team he was on. Wow. So what the fuck is going on with the Broncos? What the fuck is going on with America? I don't know.

What's the Nat Hackett corollary? I don't know. Maybe Kamala Harris used to teach hip hop dance. I don't know, man. Yeah, Broncos is one of America's teams because what the fuck is going on with the Broncos? Is there anything more befuddling than America. We got it made and we can't get our shit together.

We can't agree on anything. Fucking people yelling at Russell Wilson on the sideline yesterday. That was Mike Bressel getting after him. What was wrong, please? What do you think was said? He was like, let's go, man. Do you think he was like, let's go, man?

Classic quarterback hype speech and the guy's like, hey, shut the fuck. Yeah, just Madden B-roll. Just Madden Audio B-roll. Background noise. Okay, Dolphins, 75% of the bets. We're on the Dolphins yesterday in America won. And here's the thing about the dolphins.

They keep covering spreads against these fucking cupcakes, man. This week we get to see a fucking real deal ball game. Niners Dolphins, I can't wait. I can't wait. And I bet you, let's guess the spread. Where's the game? I believe the game's in Miami. No, no, they have three straight road games coming up,

and that will factor into Power Rankins. This is the murderous stretch of the schedule, but they go to San Francisco. San Francisco minus two and a half. Okay, dolphins at Niners. Ooh, fellas, that sounds about right to me. Yeah, let's rock with that. I think they're going to be America's team this week.

Minus three and a half. Okay. I think they're going to be America's team, especially with that three and the little half there, the little hook there. Three and a half, I bet you a lot of people are going to continue to be on dolphins, but they have done this every week.

They play a bad team. There's a big line, and they fucking cover. So Dolphins. one of America's teams. USC. You know what? Thank you for putting Notre Dame

on the do not bet list. Thank you. Caleb Williams' most exciting player in the whole country. Can you imagine, is there a way that I guess one of these teams in the top five could forego drafting in the top five this year and try to triangulate

who's going to have the best pick, the most advantageous pick next year and trade out of this draft to be in the running for Caleb Williams? Could you do that? Would you do that? Hard to predict. as we've found.

I don't know, Texans. Yeah, we were on... Some of us were on the commanders for a worst record. Oh, who? Bears, maybe me. I don't know. It's hard to remember.

No, Texans are... Texans were a dead ringer and I bet the overwin total. See, there you go. It's just got a zag sometimes. Okay, so USC. And they were on the... They were on America's teams last week, so...

Yeah. They're recurring guests. USC is? Yeah, they were on mine. Oh, good, good, good. Because of the same reason, like, you know, a dynasty being restored. Yeah, no, people love to see, like, good classic teams play well. And it was so nice to see.

It was so nice, objectively. Look at me being adult about it. It was so nice to see Notre Dame plus five, Notre Dame Money Line. It was so nice to see USC and Notre Dame under the bright lights. An irrelevant game in the Coliseum, a full as can be Coliseum. Now, it wasn't great to see Caleb Williams being like an actual good version of Kyle Murray when you're on the other side of that bet. Yeah.

Because he ran backwards. 15 fucking times and made something out of nothing. You had to take a drive. Oh, yeah. I actually went out and took a drive during the second half of that game. I went out to, this is the saddest shit in the world. It was Luke's birthday, happy birthday Luke. My buddies had a little birthday get together for one of them, and they were out on a party bus,

and I passed that up so I could do cake and stay at home with my kid on his birthday naturally. So after the party bus, I was going to meet up with these guys. I was trying to triangulate, and I was going to sweat the second half of this game. So I drive out to meet him. Turns out they're too drunk to hang out with me. So I'm alone.

I'm driving around. I'm relieving stress. I'm just driving in a circle around the city. In a roundabout. Just driving. Yeah. I'm just getting on the interstate, getting off the interstate. I'm driving by bars.

I have too much social anxiety to go in there and drink alone. and try to watch the game. Somebody's going to try to start talking to me. I'm going to flip a fucking table over, you know? Yeah. Hey, I'll talk to you any time, but not during the goddamn game here. And so I ended up at Vivachi,

drinking alone, watching the second half of the fall game. Yeah. Now you call at some point, we're both on Notre Dame, and I've been a big proponent of cord cutting until your score app is seven seconds ahead of me, and you're like, we're celebrating Notre Dame driving. I'm refreshing it at the light, dude.

like, oh, 17-yard chunk played a mayor? I was like, well, hold on. Let me confirm. Five seconds later, confirmed, yeah, here we go. And then you just go, oh, fuck. Macon. And then again, dead air and Drew Pine fumbled the handoff. You saw it.

I read it. And the game was effectively over. I don't know if you ever driven around the city, refreshing the score out because you can't watch the game. If I've ever. I've done it today with a tennis match. on the way here. Usually that happens at night.

You flip the script on the on the stereotypes. You get to D-JAN in the morning. Yeah, I get to wake up and then I get that adrenaline. I do. Side unseen. Let's bet BYU. I can go to sleep.

They almost didn't cover, dude. I woke up in the morning. Refresh the score out. 3526. Yeah, that got a little tight. And then David Shaw said, peace.

Yeah. Some people don't like talking about gambling on this show. He just dipped out. So I'm sorry about the first 15 minutes. Good for him, though. David Shaw says he doesn't want to coach anymore. Hey, I'm 1-0 in David Shaw's last games. Me too.

If I could just, you know. What about you, Kyle? Did you bet that one? I did not make the bet for that game. I just can't stop thinking about the Eagles under last night. I had the Eagles and I had the under. Kyle. Got out of hand, quick.

Kyle, it was fucking 40 to 30. What was the, people were just passing on defense? People were passing on playing defense. What was the under? The under was 47. 47 was the total, Kyle. You know what the total in the first half was?

47. Aaron Rogers said, fuck off. Aaron Rogers with a fucking broken thumb. Yeah. Okay. Chris Collins said he could throw with no thumb. Kyle, you know what's worse? Oh, yeah.

Second half, I think we'll chase with the Eagles minus seven, or the Eagles in a pickum, basically. So they just have to win by seven. Actually, more than seven, it turns out. Yeah. And the under was 24. You know what happened? Jordan Love happened, Kyle.

We can't get no relief, Kyle. Christian Watson. Can't get no relief around here. He's been pent up, though. Power rankings. Let's talk about it. Chiefs, one. Eagles, two, Niners, three.

Let's stop there. Chiefs, Eagles, Niners. How do we feel? I think that's about right. I had, I had Niners at the two spot, but I think that's no problem, Eagles at two. I had the chefs,

I got the Eagles. and I got the bills third. Kayla, one of very few to not rank the chiefs number one. Yeah, I'd just like to keep things interesting with my relationship with the Kansas City metro area, KCMO. I have one Eagles. I have two chiefs. And the reason I have the chiefs there is because I've seen what the floor

looks like for both of these teams. And I think that the chief floor is lower than the basement for the chiefs is lower. than the Eagles. Oh, three dolphins. Yeah, I don't know. That's what I think. Yeah.

Three dolphins, four 49ers, five Cowboys, six bills, seven Bengals. And it's important to understand we have seven teams on this list. And there's a reason I chose the Bengals in particular at seven. I don't feel any worse about the Titans after the loss to the Bengals, but I feel that much better about the Bengals. Yeah, for sure. They proved something. This was, this would have been the best team that the Titans had beaten.

and it might have been, I don't know, who's the best team that the Bengals have beaten it? By record, it's definitely the Titans right here. I had Chiefs 1, Eagles 2, Bills 3, I had Cowboys 4, I had Niners 5, I have the Dolphin 6 and the Bengals 7. The tricky thing about the Power Rankins

is it's kind of based on power. You know, it's not who's the best team sometimes. Like, for instance, I might look at the Cowboys and say, hey, they look to be a little bit more of a complete team right now. now. Like not being able to stop the run every time the Packers check to a fucking run, you know, or every time you're in a four-man front, the Packers checked to run. You can't stop the run. Like, that's a problem. It's been a couple weeks here now. But the Eagles have

an 87 point differential. They just ran the ball for 300 yards on the Packers. Like, they're fucking, like, they're one of the institutes. Honestly, warming up for the Army-Navy game, right? they blew out the Vikings and I'm giving the tiebreaker over the Cowboys because the Eagles have the number one seed right now. That's powerful make. That's why they're my number one. They're powerful and the quarterback

out of those two teams I'm talking about in the NFCs the quarterback is the reason I'll take them. No disrespect to Dak I think he's real good but Jalen Hertz you see the throws outside the numbers last night I mean like he he rushed for 100 whatever the fuck what was it 150 yards or something like that the Eagles are are balling uh offensively even without Dallas gotter ball past the line of

scrimmage he's such a ball carrier and a threat like and deck can allude pressure and throw on the run but when Hertz becomes a runner he is an elite runner yeah and we'll talk about it in the Eagles game, but Jaylen became the first player with 150 plus passing and 150 plus rushing in the same game. He's on pace for 3,956 passing yards, 26 passing touchdowns, 922 rushing yards, and 12 rushing touchdowns. And our green light composite rankings made up of a six-person advisory board, Chief Seagles Niners, then Cowboys 4, Bills 5, Dolphin 6, Bingle 7, and the 9 and 2 Vikes are not in our top seven. That's probably right. Even though they get the win on Thanksgiving night

against the Patriots, damn, they're not trustworthy. No, you can't trust them. The reason the bills are still in my top three to five is, you know, last month they lost the jets, they blew a big lead at home against the Vikings, they squeaked by against the Browns and Lions.

But before that, they also beat the Ravens and the rain, they beat the Chiefs at Arrowhead, they beat the Titans. They weren't healthy in Miami, but they did a really good job defensively on those guys. I mean, I think one of those touchdowns is on a really short field. So that team's still in there. You know, like, and that's why I, you know, I have them in my top three.

Josh Allen playing this poorly for a stretch. Like, I'm buying the debt. Give me them at three. And then, you know, like the Cowboys, they could get more powerful if they add OBJ. Oh, if you can wake up. Wow. Kyle. Too soon.

They might still be a slug. He might still be asleep. Let the man get some rest. You think it was an edible? I love that they said he made other arrangements. I know. That was the best part. What is that?

Yeah, he just hopped in a car to drive to L.A. Instead of what? No, I'm sure he got on a different plane. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, wheels up. He definitely didn't go with fucking wheels up. They must treat the superstars better. All right, five, the Niners, I really do think they're in a nice spot.

about to win the division, but the Seahawks have the Rams twice and the Panthers at home remaining. So the power could shift there. And then Dolphins, man, we talked about it. They're at six for me ahead of the Bengals, Niners, Chargers, bills, Packers, Patriots, four of the five on the road to finish the year, no Armstead for the Niners game. That's going to be tough. We'll figure out who they are. If they can come out of this thing unscathed, they are a top.

three team and and and twoa is him you know i can't wait to see these games seven bangles counting them out last year counting them out well i didn't count them out last year i counted them out this year pretty early what they're doing without chase and and mixing is nothing short of amazing and the way they won that game yesterday should we start with that game because objectively that was uh it was probably the best game in the 1 p.m. it's late we can start with that game yeah it was a you know classic. First off, I like the jerseys a lot in that game, Macon, because I know you're a jersey guy. But Joe Burrow, without Jamar Chase, 67%, 1063 yards. He's got eight touchdowns, three interceptions. They asked him last week, are you surprised with how you're able to play without

Jamar Chase? And he goes, no, it doesn't really surprise me. I am who I thought I was, which I thought was a really great quote. And it's telling of their quarterback. But you look at the game, and the way that the Titans running game wasn't able to get started, I give a big credit to that defensive scheme. And Chris, you and I were talking before the show. The secondary came to show up for the, the secondary showed up for the Bengals defensively in the run game in particular.

Derek Henry couldn't get anything going. Didn't look characteristic of himself. They were bringing him down not only after the first tackle, but there's a swarm of guys there to bring them down. Adding safeties, adding corners, and also guys like Reader stepping up big for the Bengals. What did you see there? No, I mean, the number one thing we talked

about it earlier is they they everybody in that defense they just keep running at the ball it's like just waves of them running at the ball they swarm to the ball they go top down the back end guys all the back in guys on that defense are willing to stick their nose in there you know who's watching mike hilton knife in there for a couple tFLs yesterday and you know whether it's um you know safety setting an edge a corner setting an edge like they're all willing participants in the run game And I also think they're built to stop a downhill run scheme, like a gap scheme kind of run scheme. They honestly had a little bit more trouble. I feel like in sub was smaller.

You know, like the times where they get in trouble is smaller back. They match up well. And up front what really surprised me was the offensive line. They really let Joe get comfortable. They really let Joe get comfortable. They kept him clean for the most part. and maybe this group is built for a little bit more physicality than finesse. I mean, like, you know, if you look at the roster construction with the offensive line,

they are some, they're more physical than they are finesse. And that kind of, that looks a little funny because last year you were, you damn near got him killed and you were trying to improve the past game. But they were good in the run game, P-Rine, leak through there for some big yardage. I mean, he was awesome. He had some big plays in the past game as well. he continues to be a, you know, a real asset for them.

But Burrow hitting big throws, man. That's what this game was. It was just Burrow hitting big fucking throws and it was T. Higgins proving that, you know, he's a fucking number one, masquerading as a number two. It's really wild. How much of a mismatch he looks physically when he's out there against a corner.

Yeah. A lot of fun from them and great, yeah, you alluded to the O line and what looks different to me is their ability to pick up these games. know the Titans did get home on an added pressure from the second level. And the Titans played well defensively. David Long Jr. looked great. Again, he keeps showing up for the Titans.

But it was the O line we're talking about. They're passing off games better. And they can play physically, but they understand spatially where they're going to be. This group has been playing together all year long. And they've been able to grow in that regard. And Joe looks more comfortable. And, you know, the Ben Jones absence is big. I just didn't feel like they'd get anything going with Derek Henry.

It was just that screen pass, right, that you were talking about. And like, yeah, great hustle play for Cincinnati to get that ball out. Unfortunately, I forget who it was. We've got it up here, Chris. One thing I appreciate about this play, if you run it back here, Matt, it's a non-traditional screen. Usually you see screens with the back, offset, and gun, Chris, and coming across the formation on a token play fake. But this one is an under center.

Go back to the beginning here. Matt, it's a heavy under center. We'd call this a pass 95. half back screen left. So you're really going to sell run. The linebackers see play action and then they back out when they see Derek Henry does not have the ball.

They're going to bail to their assignments. That's when Derek Henry can sneak in behind. Get a great block from the right guard, Davis. Right guard makes a huge play to spring this whole thing. And then Cam Taylor Britt heads up play and hustle to peanut punch the thing inside the five, get it out. But then Traylon Burks hustle, get on it. That's a thank God.

And that's it. Burke's had a huge reception. He's come on late. Well, he's just, he's been, huh? Imagine having Derek Henry first touchdown, but. Oh, that was terrible. I mean, I couldn't even imagine. I mean, somebody in fantasy.

There's just a lot of good football. If you care about fantasy, if you've looked at the fucking app in three weeks. I don't. You must have fell out of the. Yeah, I don't care. Who would care about the... Now you're catching on. That's a real game.

Yeah, right. We're going to play fake. And P. And P. P.R.N. was amazing. Like you said, P. Yeah. Yeah.

So, I mean, it's just, it's all the burrow throws. There's a number of them that I could go through. through, but I'm not going to. So we were talking about the offensive line last year in this game, the divisional round, Burrow was pressured over 32%. Yesterday, 18.4. Yeah, it's a big difference. That's a great stat rate.

I mean, like, in a year. And one of the reasons people might have been tentative about betting Sincey was because of, you know, it's a revenge game, home game. Sincy's hot, right? Titans are, they stay. hot but you know since he's one of the hottest teams in the league and last year it legitimately felt like burrow was going to get killed out there and it did not feel like that yesterday at all and it felt like that at the beginning of the season yeah yeah you know with the with this offensive line

no question one thing that's really telling about an offense is their ability to succeed on third down these guys are 48% on third down their third in the league yeah which tells you a lot about joe getting the ball out but that offensive line is keeping a clean pocket and they stayed committed to the run game Like this was beating the Titans at their game. You know, they stayed committed the run game because they wanted those third and manageable. They weren't in them early. And it took until I think they hit Hayden Hurst on a chunk to actually get on the other side of the field. Yeah, full extension.

He had a nice game. But the throws I would mention were, you know, the Higgins back shoulder throw, the Irwin throw, who's a child actor, by the way. Yeah, they mentioned that. That was crazy. Bingle's home for the chiefs next week. We talk about Dolphins Niners. Bingle's Chiefs is another good one. It's going to be enormous.

Hey, and we haven't mentioned that the Titans would have had a shot to probably tie the game or win it with a two-pointer, which we saw twice. But you can't hit the center on a field goal. He's the hollow man. Kevin Strong. Come on, man. He's the hollow man. I mean, like, the game's over in an instant.

It's also goddamn coaching, too. I mean, like, we give Mike Vrabble a lot of credit, but like, whoever the special teams coach is there, I mean, unfortunately, I think he actually used to coach me. No, that's the guy on the Raiders. They're everywhere. You know special teams coaches, they get around. You'll just see people on the sideline be like, oh, he's there? Yeah.

It's a guy named Andy, who's my dude from St. Louis. He was like an assistant run game coordinator, and I look at him yesterday, and he's talking to Pete Carroll. Like, they're just talking during the game. I'm like, what does he do now? He's an offensive line coach. But yeah, I think special teams coach, whoever it is in Tennessee, needs to tell these guys that.

And if he did, then this is even worse. I mean, it's something you go over every year in camp. But after that, need we be reminded, you don't run over the snapper? Craig Aukerman. Oh, protected player, guys. We could have just let him go. Hey, I'm sure he's had a great season up until we want to give him his roses. Now, Craig's probably not going to hear this because how would that happen?

But like, you know, Craig might be sitting there saying, well, that's unfair. That's unfair. I told him. Yeah. Well, when a player makes a heads up, play you know you get credit and you get you get blamed when it when a guy does something really boneheaded too hey Craig Craig Randy look Randy bullet look great on those field goals yeah I wish the shoot X somebody didn't mean to say the man's name okay about the charges game you seem to enjoy

that yesterday yeah I guess they're dangerous charges cool don't know where my notes are um chargers no they're not dangerous they're not dangerous because they're fucking wasting justin herbert they're just wasting them. Like they can play up to anybody's level. You know, they're going to have the dolphins in two weeks. They'll probably play up to the dolphins level. They might beat the dolphins. That should be made for great TV.

Emmanuel Acho, social media quarterback, the whole thing. You know, the Herbert and Tua, just get it out of here. That'll be the bad part of that game. But the charges play up to everybody. And this was Herbert's 12th game-winning drive in 43 games. Did I read that right? Is that a fucking typo? I mean, that's, he's so, he almost threw a pick on a deflection, you know, yesterday.

There was an errand throw. He actually played really well. I mean, late in the game, there were a couple near misses, but they're not type of things where after they happen, you feel like, fuck, man, my ass, my ass is clenched the entire drive. Like, I just am confident that he's going to make the throw that he has to make in crunch time. and when you see a stat like 12th game winning drive in 43 games and their his his record is like 500 what does that say about the charges man

well it it also says they've trailed by 10 or more points at some point in the first half of each of their last four victories they were down 14 nothing against a browns 10 o against Denver Atlanta and Arizona Denver Atlanta Arizona that's not a murderer's row they clap back they had I think they had two touchdowns in the second quarter yesterday, and then you look at the turnovers,

two turnovers for the Cardinals, zero for the Chargers. That's preached so much, and it's like the basics of football. It's like take care of the football. And if anything else, take care of it. The game's,

yeah, exactly. And, and, you know, like the first 15 for a lot of teams, it was like yesterday, Trevor Simeon was dicing up the Jets. And I was like, get them off the first 50s.

Yeah, like get the, give me Trevor Simeon off script here. You know, give me that coordinator. Luke Getsey, who's a real big coordinator, adjusting with Trevor Simeon. The Chargers, man, like, their first couple drives were awful. Like, the first half was, they made a lot of mistakes. They made mistakes offensively. They made him defensively. Derwin James was a real bright spot. I mean, he kept them in the game. I mean, there's a fourth and one, which Kyler Murray obviously

talked about after the game. He said, schematically, we're fucked. Now, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, even though I do think he's backing the bus up over somebody. You know, schematically they were fucked because I think a wide receiver lined up wrong and it was an RPO I think a wide receiver lined up wrong it was like a panic throw to Dhop and Derwin James came down with it nonetheless you know maybe maybe run the ball you've been gashing them I know they loaded the box and if they had given that RPO the edges would have blown it up but like you had been gashing them you know in that defense brandon staley is is a defensive football coach so you know that that two point conversion might have been

smooth like chocolate milk. But the defense wasn't smooth like chocolate milk at all. The defense is like oat milk. That's telling. Defense is like oat milk. Never had oat milk. Any good? I had I had Kate's oatmeal latte a taste of it once. It tastes way different. It tastes way different.

Yeah. I'm not into it. I'm going to stick to cream. You get used to it at drink number two. Well, all I'm saying is the defense has stopped the fucking run. You know, they missed a tackle on the big D-hop touchdown. They had 12 men on the field on a third down. that gave them basically a conversion. You know, early in the game, Herbert's getting blasted.

He's getting hit by every white defensive end over 6, 7 in the entire country. It was J.J. Watt, and then drugstore J.J. Watt, whoever the other guy is. Everyone except for Dean Lowry. Allen had like three sacks, man. So Herbert, like, he's just got to swim upstream so hard to win these games, man. And I'm not giving him excuses because when he makes a poor throw, I do think he could be better at reading the hot in some of these situations.

They could be better at giving him a hot option out of the backfield or something quick because when he gets blitz sometimes, you know, it's just kind of like a tick late. But I will say this. I don't think the charges are dangerous. I'll probably end up eating my words and I'll be happy I'm doing it

because I really like Justin Herbert because I don't think they're maximizing them. I just don't think the teams... They need to give the ball to Austin Echler. everything's a checkdown. They need to give him the ball in terms of a handoff. Five carries. They need to just give him the ball, dude. When you give him the ball, he makes yards, and it'll take the pressure off Justin Herbert. It'll protect your investment, and it'll open up your passing game. Healthy Mike Williams would help too, because he trusts him. Yeah, it's a,

that's a big deal. Yeah. And, and, you know, the big chunk throws happen more with Mike on the field. Echler was huge down the stretch, including the screen to get him down in the low red. That was a, that was a really good drive. But again, Macon, I don't know if you have any issue with this, but you know, Simmons sex,

Simmons sex, by the way, it was Simmons who got beat on the Everett. Simmons got beat on the touchdown and the two point. I know. Eish. Yeah.

So Simmons had the sack with 254 left. They don't punt until 220. And that was a no-brainer punt situation. They lost a few seconds in that situation. I was thinking about you. You know what Brandon Saley did do?

Was it called timeout on the right side of the two-minute warning? which I really appreciate. On the on the back side of it. On the high side. On the high side. On the high side, there was 2.11 left. Kyler was sacked to allow for.

And they had two timeouts. Yeah. And so you call it two. We were talking about that upstairs last. So call it three timeouts. You wanna call it on the upside. Yeah. Got it.

There's more time. You guys are regular. So if you have enough timeouts. The defense though, as much as I've shit on them for not being able to stop the run in the first half, you know, they pin the Cardinals back three times at the end of the ball game. Like pin them back with punts and that sort of thing. And you definitely take away an offense's right hand, so to speak, when they're backed up.

But you should be able to pick up a first down. Any first down would have done for the Cardinals at this point. Like the way the game was, they were moving the ball at will. they punted with 10 to go with seven to go with two minutes to go three possessions they took 340 in in time of possession and the chargers it just felt like a game they were destined to lose which is maybe part of the reason why you go for two you know because they were just they couldn't get out of their own way and the decision

sure hated it when it was made because I was like fuck I'm gonna lose this bet in spectacular fashion yeah I also had the charge of money line think of money line but that two point conversion man I mean it was just automatic it was automatic and it just makes you if I'm a defender and I hear they're going for two

I'm not even going to lie that's not a situation I want you know how everybody's like oh I want to make the play I want to be the if I'm on defense and Justin Herbert's trotting out there to go for two I don't feel good about our chances well it's like a first 15 situation there's only so many defenses you guys can trot out there on the field

in a goal line or short yarder situation We're ready for any of them. Especially now if this had happened in the 80s teams would be running like lead. They come up with a play and there's a check depending on what you're in. It wasn't a legal play in the 80s. Yeah.

No two point conversion. No, definitely advantage. I know. So what I'm saying, if this was the 80s, the play style would have been so much more easy to digest for a defender. We would have sat there and been like, okay, bring you like an Oklahoma drill, but now it's lead.

It was a defensive line. You're just spreading me out. And all I can do is kind of play patty cake because we're afraid of Justin Herbert tucking it. And then the outflanks. That's where a lot of touchdowns happen. So a big win for the charges, but I don't know if they're dangerous, Kyle. Well, maybe it, maybe.

That's Loued Austin Echler more in the run and they're more dangerous. And maybe it's just to get Mike Williams back and change the offense. Change in the opening script to Reed's point being down 10-0, 10-0-0-10-0-0-14-0. And in this game, they went 12 plays, 11 yards, three punts. It was terrible. That script needs to change. It was terrible. You need to get Luke Getsy's script.

No, I know. Just go steal it. Yeah. Bobby Bush. Sound the canons for the Cardinals. Their season's done. Oh, sound the cannons, yeah. We should blow the Hunger Game whistle for the Cardinals.

So go ahead and do that because I think, schematically, they're fucked, and they're fucked. Who else are we blowing the cannons for real quick before we get to Browns and Jags? Probably the Packers, if you want to talk about the Eagles game. We should. Hey, the Eagles, I'm going to be brief about the Eagles game. I know some people are going to be like,

oh, well, you know, we got to talk about it more. Stop the run. Like, stop the run, man. Like, hey, you get, hey, when, like I said, it was, it was checks or whether they were called run plays. Like, that was a problem last night. It was a problem last night. And the Eagles offense, listen, Jalen Hertz just put himself squarely in the top three. I mean, he's been probably consensus top three to five in the MVP race.

Like, he's right in there now. You know, that, that game, they don't win that game. if it's not for him. He bailed them out of trouble early and they needed that 14, 13-0-0 cushion because Rogers came fucking firing back and you could not tell he was hurt. You know, I thought he was playing possum.

I thought, yes, I thought this week, the reason I gave the Packers out on catching seven on our little pick-em thing, which sucked anyways, is because Rogers is talking about his thumb being broken. Why would you do that? that. Why would you do that?

No, yeah, Brian Winhorse, why would you do that, Kyle? Why would you talk about being hurt? When you're confident, it's not going to affect your play. Yeah. When we're out of the woods now, you know, I'm going to talk about being hurt, and I'm going to go towards the Eagles. Or I'm going to make excuses for why I'm playing like shit. One of those two things.

Well, I think it was more like, hey, I feel. But if you're asking me, that's what I would say. Well, he wasn't hurt. But it's true, though. But you know what, it's true, though. You know, like, to be fair, you know, it's a broken thumb. It's not like it can get hurt that much more. It's not like telling a guy that you got a bad MCL on your right leg.

Okay, people are going to really try to, yeah, I don't know. But it's a thumb, man. Like, good luck fucking me up worse on purpose. Okay, like, I'm a tomahawk on the ball and that sort of thing. But it's one of those things where he hasn't been playing well. And it is good to know that it is a broken thumb because he has a future in football. And I don't want people thinking he's watched because I want the Giants of the Jets going out and getting this guy or the Patriots. Like, I want to seize a fun shakeup.

and I know that some Eagles fans are like, hey, not during the breakdown. Don't get him in division in the NFCEs. But, you know, like, I have no problem with letting people know. But when you let people know, I think when you're Aaron Rogers, like everything's calculated and you know, like, you feel good. And he was good for the first two, three quarters. He was fucking lethal to the point where it was like, it was scary.

Remember when the Bears went up big 21-0 in week one, Khalil Max coming out party for Chicago? Aaron Rogers went into the locker room injured. He came back out in the second half. and diced us up and won the game. That was what it felt like last night. It was like, ah, he's back. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's back.

And then they kept hitting him, and I think he had a rib thing or something. Yeah, he might have a, yeah, they were saying punctured lung potentially or something. He couldn't carry his own suitcase after the game, reportedly. I don't know. I'm not a doctor. I hear he doesn't carry his suitcase after games.

I already had his lungs removed. What did you think of Jordan Love? I think, and listen, it's, I know why they went in to score that touchdown. I know why it was so important. I mean, they're not only trying to win the game,

but it's really good to have some Jordan. Fuck you. Well, some Jordan Love tape. Yes. You know, some leverage. And for people who made fun of the Jordan Love pick, right? It's not a big deal, Kyle. It's one drive.

Eagles are in soft coverage. People have roasted them for that pick for years now, and he gets to go out and show, and they get to show their hand with Jordan Love. Victory lap for them. A one-quarter victory. One-up the tires. Well, hopefully, I mean, like, maybe they think he's the future.

Maybe, like, you don't know. And I don't have friends on the Packers that I pepper about, like, the truth. So I don't know if maybe in that building they think, like, the elephant in the room is that, hey, this kid's good enough to play. Yeah. You know. Which would be a cool elephant in the room. It would be a great elephant in the room because I think you could get a big haul for Rogers. A big hall for Rogers.

Look at what a ride. That's a win-win for them last night except for the fact that they lost. So they get some love on tape and love looks really good. You know, just, hey, run Watson across the formation. He's awesome. They run like a deep over over top. Like, they should just do this to the cows come home. Fucking clear people out, two, three man routes, you know, catch them in man,

get some fucking poor safety or linebacker running sideways across the field. And he's just before you know, you're chasing him, this big son of a bitch. So like, hey, if that's what Jordan Love has to do in this offense and they can run the football, like they can. Watch out. Watch out in 23. Roger signed the three-year, $150 million extension in March. Yeah, the money is the problem.

The money is the problem, and the team would have to... There's ways around it. You're saying they can't trade them, or you're just saying this? Yeah, that's the intimation. Yeah, I think they can trade them. Probably so. To a team that, yeah, they would take on his contract, right? Right, yeah.

How old do you think Jordan Love is? 27. 24. Wow. Ooh. Yeah, it's still young. The night is young for Jordan Love. So, yeah, I mean, the Eagles were all.

awesome man. The Eagles were awesome. Offensively, they were not awesome defensively. This is one of those games on defense where you feel like you got beat, even though you won. I know the moods are not great. And the worst part was they didn't even make a stand to finish the game. Like that's the hard part. When you go back to the locker room, like if you'd, you know, sack fumble or something like that, close the door. At least you close the door. But when the game ends on an onside kick because you gave up, you know, a Jordan loved touchdown drive. That kind of just feels shitty. So the Eagles, they got to get it figured out in the run game. They really do. Adding those guys are great when you're in five down, basically, when you've got three big bodies in there and a zero and two threes, and you got two guys, two big bodies outside setting the edge.

But when you got four down, you got to stop the run. Yeah. So, Kelsey got a game ball, got on TV last night. Kelsey and Hertz, real wholesome shit. Hertz was great last night.

He was off script. He wasn't at the podium. He was out of the game. He was out there with Melissa Stark. He hit the curveball well. He said, yeah, we beat the goat, but I am praying for him.

Can I give my game ball to Jason Kelsey? It's funny. He called him the goat. He's an innovator. He redefines what it means to be a center. I now think they should change it to center back because he likes to run the football as well. What kids on that?

And sneaks. I mean, that's, I've never seen a center snap it to himself. Yeah, he was like, just make sure you're touching my ass and they'll count it. And Chris Collinsworth is like, that's what we call a double cheek push. I just love Jason Kelsey's willingness to say, nobody else is going to move until I move. You know the snap count is when I move, you guys move. Yeah.

There is no snap count. Yep. Jordan Davis can come off IR next week. Jordan Davis can come off IR next week. That could really help. But stopping the run is also. I don't want to get too into like I'm on the team or something, you know, get frustrated about stopping the run, man.

You're going to have to do that. You're going to have to do that. Okay. Let's hit the Tampa Bay game. What was bigger loss for them? Losing the game or losing Tristan Wirfs? Losing Tristan Worf's. Losing Tristan Worf's, if it's serious.

They're going to be in this thing to the last game, no matter what. First place. But if they lost, if they lost Tristan Worf's, I mean, you can, they're not even going to win a playoff game. They can't win a playoff game. You know, because there's too many rush. Yeah, there's too many rushers and then you know you took Brady's interior. You know, he at least feels like he can get people Although Miles Garrett single-handedly won them the game not single-handedly

You know they haven't backed up you know in that before that fourth and ten touchdown in Joku The reason they're able to get the ball back is because because Miles Garrett beats Donovan Smith you know whether it was third and four where Brady turned into Brett farv In overtime with a chance to win that game and flicks the ball forward there's a hands to the face because miles Garrett's beating Donovan Smith. The very next play is fourth or third and 14. He gets shipped. I mean, he won on a three-man rush

at the 10-yard line backed up. He got chipped on his next sack. That's like the biggest no-no in a line is giving up a sack in a three-man rush. Yeah, well, they did. And then they chipped him. And they couldn't stop him. So, you know, like Brady, I don't,

you know, like they can't run the ball. They can't close games out. If you look at Richard White, four carries 48 yards the first quarter. And now a lot of that was because of a 30-yard run. second quarter one carry for minus one yards third quarter four carries for one yard or 11 yards fourth quarter three carries for zero yards overtime two carries for six yards so like they can't and i know they got other backs but they can't run the ball they can't close games out and you know

it took me fucking three months to see a julio jones reverse i feel like i saw one yesterday like this offense the way it's designed i know bruce arians is like uh persona non grata there a little bit even though they won a super bowl last year like their offense is gone backwards. And I know they have players out and we kind of predicted this, but you can't even close the Browns out. You know what I mean? You can't close the Browns out. You're up 17, 10, the entire second half. And Brady's got to hit that throw to Godwin. You know, he's got Godwin wide open at the 30 up seven points. Like that'll do it, 20 to 10. And then you let in Joku, fuck Dwight Clark's the catch. Okay, I saw it in real time yesterday, the best catch I've ever

seen. I'm being hyperbolic, but so are all 49ers fans and NFL historians. Dwight Clark's catch is like cool, but the catch? Way more catches have happened. And Joku, that was 25%. How did they get 25% probability to catch that ball? Should be like 5%. We got a John Brinkett's sports science. Yeah, and I had the fucking at the bucks. Breaking news. Worf's expected to miss three to four weeks. Okay, so they're in trouble. Can I tell you something? about the box offense. That's frustrating. Saints, Niners Bengals. So when you have a quarterback that can move well,

now you see all the implementation of the RPO and the RPR that we were hearing about from Chris Collinsworth last night, you don't have the luxury of doing that with Tom Brady, so you need to rely on the basic running game of Gap Scheme and Inside Zone Gives. And if it's not working out, then so many pages of your playbook are out of the playbook when you don't have a mobile quarterback.

Yeah, well, I mean, I have to look around, and see if everybody's run game. He's the slowest quarterback. I'm just saying it's another layer. Yeah, it is another layer. And if you have to hit the change up every once in a while, you don't have it. But this offense is just. Abismal.

It's abysmal. Yeah. Rashad White. You got Tom Brady. You got the greatest quarterback of all time. Who's not washed, although he missed throws to Evans yesterday and he missed that throw that could have put him out, put that game out of reach.

But you're going to tell me your ceiling is what you saw yesterday against the fucking Cleveland Browns? Rashad White was 14 for 64. That's almost five a tote. Yeah, 35 yards on one of them. And nine catches. Did you see that? Good call.

35 on one of them. So 13 for 30. More dynamic than Fournette. Yeah, you've been trying to trade four net. It's a trade deadline. Yeah, and everybody in the goddamn league. He's built for the, his running style is built for the offense

that they possessed prior to injury this year. I mean, it's just, the bucks are not a contender, dude. Like, I'm not overreacting. We're not, it's not like I've been riding the wave. It's not like one week I'm saying, yeah, they could get it together. I don't think the bucks are going to get it together.

Right now it would be Dallas Cowboys at Tampa Bay Bucks in the first round of the playoffs. At Tampa Bay Bucks. Bing Bang Division winner. If they get worse back, they can win a playoff game. That's it. Somebody said, good thing the fans in Tampa aren't fucking insane. It's just a South Florida thing. Even Chah.

Yeah, Stephen Chah. Yeah, running down JAPB in the tunnel. Oh my God. in selfie videos. God bless him. Fox closed with three winnables, Cardinals, Panthers, Falcons. They lost.

Hey, listen. Winnables. Panthers, watch out. They could be hosting. They're all winnables now. They're all winnables now in the NFL. What happened to any given Sunday? Okay.

All right. The Ravens game. Are the Ravens? Are they a contender? They lost as well. The Ravens are a contender. The Ravens are a contender. The Ravens tell me.

Yesterday was awful. And the Red Zone, the Red Zone stuff is terrible. and Lamar is not playing well. Like, okay, you can tell me Lamar hit one of the best throws of his entire career yesterday. That ball on the left side line.

It was like 60-yard bomb to Deshawn Jackson, you know, didn't underthrow Deshawn Jackson. It was great. Even old Deshawn Jackson. He had to lay out for it almost. Yeah. He really had to reach it.

Yeah, and it was a beautiful throw. Cross the field, too. It was a beautiful throw, but you can't miss that first opportunity to touchdown. Every game, how many times do we have to say this shit? when you're playing a team that is not your caliber, especially on the road, and you have an opportunity to get six, the first drive or the first opportunity you have to score, and he overthrows that ball on the right side line to Robinson.

Okay, they end up with three, right? Because that was a story of the day. But there's your opportunity. Like, that's it. Jump these guys. When you let teams hang around in the NFL, especially at home, if they're physical and they're motivated, like the Jaguars play, like that's, you're in for a long fucking day. And that was it. I mean, you look at their red zone opportunities.

I mean, the first couple drives, I think, you know, they missed that opportunity. They kick a field goal. They had a delay a game. They have a drop in the end zone. They have Robinson drops the ball in the end zone. Yep. Like getting Lamar back. And it would have been.

Overthrowing. Yeah. So we've got the drop here. It would have been like if this pass is completed, it ends up looking like a Patrick Mahomes highlight. And this is all we're talking about, like an absolute dart back of the end zone. to Marcus Robinson, you know, ironically, came from Kansas City, can't come down with it.

So yeah, I mean, like the story. That's the story of the Ravens. It should be 14 nothing. It should be 14 nothing. And I see why Lamar's mad on social media. It should be on different pieces for the trade deadline. And yeah, constantly in the red zone, they're so bad on first down in the red zone.

But Mark Andrews had a drop too, and he's Mr. Reliable for them. So it's like, it's kind of a theme. Andrews had a drop and they scored on that possession. They actually got six on that possession, but you were like, again? Yeah. You know, so like,

Whatever they're doing the red zone, and I think, you know, you would think, oh, they got a good tight end in the red zone. They got a mobile quarterback in the red zone. Things we always attribute to being good in the red zone. Like, Jalen Hertz is good in the red zone because he's big and strong and can run. Josh Allen's good in the red zone because he's big and strong and run. Lamar's big and strong and he run. He put on fucking 30 pounds in the off season.

Okay, he's got one of the best tight ends in the league. Like, that should be a good red zone team. And yet they're terrible. They take a ball out of his hand too often. They hand it off too often. And maybe that's the case, one of four last week and then this week it cost them the game. You have the best player,

you have the best athlete on the field bar none and the best way for a defense to win is to take him out of the game. And if the other offense gets the ball to somebody else, he's out of the game. I don't know if they can't, they're not stretching, well, it's hard to stretch the field in the red zone,

but I don't know if people aren't getting the separation they need to get or what. But, you know, I looked last night, okay, Baltimore, as opposed to Philly. Okay.

Baltimore, three yards, 3.19 yards for play on first down. Okay? 2.57 yards per pass on first down in the red zone. If you look at Philly, they're a whole yard better per play on first down.

And that's what I'm looking at. Because when I look at first down, that'll get you off to good start because when they're in third and short in the red zone, they get it. You know, when they're off schedule in the red zone, they don't pick it up. And I'm looking at first down,

and I'm looking at like, that's the difference in the best of league. It's just a yard, but it's a big yard and a half on pass plays. Four yards of four yards of play on past plays for the Eagles on first down in the red zone as opposed to 2.5 for Baltimore. And so, you know, I'm looking at Baltimore

and I'm saying, can I call them a contender because you would think to be a contender you have to capitalize on these four-point plays, right? But it's not necessarily true. Niners in 2021 were top red zone offense, okay? but in 2021, the Bengals ranked 17th, and the Rams were 15th. So they were middle of the road, and those were two teams in the Super Bowl. And in 2020, the Packers were at top Red Zone offense.

Okay, but the Bucks ranked 7th and the Chiefs ranked 14th. So, you know, like the Bucks ended up winning that one. So in 2019, Titans were the top Red Zone offense, chiefs were the 20th and Niners were 21st. So, like, those are some of the best teams in the leagues in those respective years, and it's a mixed bag. So maybe they don't have to solve this problem, but they're leaving a lot of money on the table,

in the words of Jalen Hertz, and they're blowing leads, dude. They've blown leads all fucking year. They're the only team ever to have a record like this and blow, what was it? Four teams in NFL history have led by more than one possession in each of their first 11 games, the 42 Bears, they were 11 and 0.

The 2009 Saints, 11 and 0, 2011-0. This year's Ravens, 7 and 4. Yep. And a lot of that is Jimmy's and Joe's. thing. Devin Dubernate, Marcus Robinson. I agree. Deshawn Jackson is not A.J. Brown and Devante

Smith. That's what I'm saying. You know, you get in the red zone like, you need players, man. You can't just be Mark Andrews and Gus Edwards in a fucking cloud of dust, dude. Rashad Bateman was on IR before the trade deadline. And a Doug Peterson appreciation tweet here, you know? I just love the confidence I'm seeing from Trevor

Lawrence, you know, the brothers Jones that aren't brothers. Coming up with huge catches, a huge outrout on the, on the, on the two-point conversion there from Trevor Lawrence. That's such a high-confidence ball in your quarterback, your young quarterback, and your receiver to win a walk-off. And Doug Peterson, obviously, loves his young quarterback as well. And the Jags, they had been 0-and-11 against teams entering the game who were four-plus games over 500 in the last five years.

And they go out and get 38 rushing yards and still win the game. E-TN dinged. ETN dinged hasty though big touchdown outside like Marcus Peters got picked on Um they we hadn't talked about Trevor Lawrence really I mean like we should give him his flowers on this game because he was really good in the second half You know he was thrown to so many Joneses I mean like like like it's hard I'm looking at my notes I'm like uh Zay Jones is the one that that uh they caught two big balls on those two respective late drives in the end of the red zone like and then and then obviously getting the shin down or whatever the fuck that was Jim. I learned something.

No, I mean, I knew, but I didn't know it could be like technically the space right above the side of your ankle is the shit. Ankle. You know, I thought it was the side of my leg. You know, they need to clean that up a little bit. Tibialis. Yeah, Tibialis.

Because I was convinced, you know, the, the Ravens were going to win that game when I first saw it. But those throws were awesome that he made down the stretch. And it wasn't a hunt. You know how, like, I said earlier, Justin Herbert, like there was a tip ball, there was almost a pick. Trevor Lawrence, when he almost throws a pig, it scares the fucking to me. I'm like,

don't throw it again. And he had a near pick at the end of that game, but he just kept, he just kept shooting, shoot or shoot. And he was great, man. And Doug Peterson, you know what I love about him? Some coaches you ask him, like, hey, what goes into that decision? Like, well, you know, well, let me show you all my math. And I'm so fucking smart. Doug Peters, and was like, well, the guys liked it. Yeah. Guys wanted to go for two. Love it.

I want to play for that guy. I'm driving a, you know, a billion dollar automobile, not a billion, the Jaguars. I'll let the passengers figure it out. Hey, where do you want to go? You need beef jerky and dip? Yeah, five stars.

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Winner. Yeah, winner. Jack Sandborn, appreciation tweet. 15 tackles, Chicago Native, Wisconsin Badger, filling in for Roquah in the last few weeks. It's the lone bright spot. That's a great hire. Luke Fickle.

It's a great hire by the Badgers. Congratulations. It's a great hire. I know nothing about Luke Fickle. Yeah, yeah. No, no. Luke Fickle, it is a great hire. Matt Ruhl might be a better hire.

I don't know. We'll ask Nicole. back in a couple minutes. Oh, nice. Okay, so Robert Sala, no rain gear. Just a hoodie. Alpha.

Just getting wet. I think his bald head was just getting precipitated on. There's no repellent in that hoodie. You guys, total fucking man out there with no rain gear.

Zach Wilson dry. Robert Sala has never asked for directions. Never. Why would he? He's all man. He's all man. He's all man.

Figure it out. Yeah, he'll figure it out. Jets bears in the first half, bro. And when I say I had a lot on the Jets money line, I'll say a lot. I got it in some guy on Twitter. He was like, hey, grow some balls and bet the Jets might. I said, bro, this is literally riskier. He's like, doesn't seem like it.

I'm like, let me break this down for you. The odds are minus 300 something. Yep. Okay? Because on my way into work, I heard that Nathan Peterman was starting. That turned out to be a lie. The DNA test said that it was Trevor Simeon. If Peterman got hurt, David Montgomery was in line to be the emergency quarterback.

That would have been great. A lot of fun. I would have put so much. I would have put an irresponsible amount of funds on it. All right. So, I mean, like when they went back shoulder to Claypool on Sauce Gardner to the Red Zone and then Reed got dunked on by Pringle, like I was fucking shook, petrified. And I know Jets fans were too because you're like,

God damn it, we just blew up the second pick. Like we just blew up, we just exploded him, right? We're like, yeah, you can't play here anymore. And then the new guy, Mike White comes out, and you're down to the fucking Bears and Trevor Simeon and Getsy's carving you up. By the way, I love that Luke Getsy. But, you know, they made some big plays.

And, you know, when man dropped the field goal, did you see the holder? Of course you saw the holder drop the field goal. It was like the rain was turning on and off. They were Buffalo Wild Wingsing this game, dude. Truman Show. Yeah, it was the Truman Show out there. Bring the rain.

Yeah. Hey, I woke up my daughter this morning and she said, mole rain. And then we opened up her shade. And then she said, no, more rain. Yeah, well, thank God it's over. Because the Bears in the Rain scare the shit out of me. Do the Bears in the Rain scare her too?

Because every time the bears show up in a rain game spot, they play above their heads and I forgot about that. Remember the Niners? And then there was another one too during the year where bare weather. It's just bare weather.

Moment of silence for Darnell Mooney. Moment of silence for Eddie Jackson. Both injured at MetLife. God damn, Kyle. Thank you. I didn't really execute that moment of silence. White Mike to Garrett Wilson 54 yards.

Oh, that felt so good. That felt so good. All right. Yeah, good for the Jets, man. I don't know if Mike White the guy going forward. Do you play Mike White going forward? Yes. You got to play him until he doesn't play well. This is a hot-hant team now. See how he fares against a real defense. This is legitimately a hot-hap-hap-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.

Hold on a minute a player. I think it is a bit of overreaction Monday. I think Zach Wilson is still the guy, honestly. But you have to test the waters with Mike White against a real team and some different competition defensively before you can really make a long-term season decision. Zach Wilson, Mike White, total manifestation of the guy she told you not. worry about me. Yes. Guy looks like he drives a Honda Civic, you know? The juxtaposition.

And he's just picking your girl up. But not banging any of your mom's friends. Exactly. Because he's focused on winning football games. So the Jets' current passing touchdowns stats. Joe Flacco, five touchdowns in three games. Zach Wilson, four touchdowns, seven games. Mike White, three touchdowns in 39 minutes.

Also, QBs to throw three touchdowns and average nine yards per attempt in two of their four career starts. Kurt Warner, Patrick Mahomes, Mike White. It was the Patriots in the rain. That's who it was. It was the Niners. Is the Patriots in the rain? Mike White in the rain, three touchdowns.

Big hands. 65220 out of Western Kentucky. Is he 6.5.2.20? That's right. Yeah, deceptively. Him and Joe Flacko are just walking around. With the real close crop. Close crop.

Yeah. Dude's a stud. Mike White, hot or not, make? Not. The guy she told you not to worry about that. But that's coming from a not hot guy. So, you know, game recognized game. Okay.

Cool. What else is there? Raiders, Seahawks. Oh, fuck. Walk off. Seahawks, man. Needed that. Can't stop the run right now.

Hey, listen. Like a Pac-12 team. Yeah, honestly. It was like a Pac-12 game. And, you know, Josh Jacobs finished the game with, you know, a million yards, but 82 of them came in overtime. I don't know, man. The Seahawks might want to get this thing shored up.

For sure. Especially if they want to be serious. Jacobs had never had a touchdown run longer than 28 yards. And this was kind of reminiscent of the Raiders, Bo Jackson, untouched, long touchdown against the Seahawks at the King Dome in 1987. Devante Adams' catch was unbelievable. The King Dome.

And it opens the door for the nine. who took care of business. Like the Niners played a bad team. The Seahawks played a bad team. The Niners took care of business. The Seahawks did not. They let them hang around and hang around and hang around. And they couldn't get stops late.

They couldn't get stops late. There was a fumble in this game that was that the refs completely miss. And Gene Stereator was just like, yeah, he's just down. And he wasn't down. It was the Raiders. It was backed up. All right, let's do our one word for commanders versus. Falcons.

I got a few words. Young Hue Koo and Kendall Fuller. Why'd you say it like that? Because that's how I've heard it pronounced on the broadcast and I was surprised because I've been saying Young Hokku.

Yeah, congrats to you for not saying Young Hokku. Nate Collins is still saying Young Hootoo. It's Young Wayku. He's been working in football for a couple years now. My word, fuck who saw it I did because I was on Atlanta my words run as in run the damn ball

that's what you do that's all you really can do and then you throw it in the very low red first of all Washington's just taking its last time out you're down six 1913 with a minute left and you throw it it gets deflected and intercepted

either in the end zone or just outside the goal line and you lose the game at second down at worst you run the ball you run another 40 seconds off the clock, you're not going to give them any time. When you do, presumably score a kick extra point, Youngway, with the extra point to win it. I don't know about Rivera's decision to punt.

Rivera's decision to punt and give them the ball back. Was it fourth and five or something or whatever it was, and they were in plus territory? They had an opportunity to put the game away. I know that, like, he is riverboat Ron, so it's not like he's afraid to do it. And, you know, the numbers were probably, what did the fourth down decision bought say on that?

VisionBot thought that they should go for it decidedly. Fourth and for the Washington 46. Five minutes to go, up six. You know, and the nice thing is, if you go for it there, and they punted, and the Vikings, Vikings, I'm still stuck in Commander's Vikings, the Falcons catch the punt. Their starting field position on the drive was where.

I don't remember, but it would have been. Yeah, 16. So they needed all that clock, they damn near all of it. you would have had no chance to get back in that game had they scored a touchdown. If you're down a point or two points, I like my chances. Let's say if I have one time out in 50 seconds. Yeah, you just did it against Indy.

Everybody does it. It's like the new thing. It's the new thing. Like two chunk plays, kick a long field goal. Justin Tucker almost did it yesterday. We didn't even talk about that. The shit looked like it was on target. But Ron punts the ball so they use the entire clock.

And if you don't get that pick at the end of the game, effectively pretty much over. You get stopped on downs. If they're going to score, they're going to score quicker. Washington is in the playoffs as of today. They would be at Minnesota. Washington 7 and 5. They have at Giants

by home giants. So we did, for real? Yeah, we did this whole thing. I do think they're for real in that they're going to go to the playoffs. I mean, I think they're going to, I actually like their ceiling better than the giant's ceiling. I do too. They beat the Eagles in prime time at the link.

They're scrappy, they're tough. They can run the football. He's got a little magic. They got a defensive front. They played better on the back end. Sorry for the gambling. Sorry for the line, Kyle. Their destiny's child.

I think it's probably minus 150 that they split with the Giants, don't you think? But they're more like Kelly Rowland, really underrated. Which is a good place to be. Go ahead. Don't you think they split those two with the Giants? Maybe. And look at the playoff chances. the 538 playoff chances after this weekend.

Always wrong, 538. Yeah, well, 538 after this weekend put the Giants at 4. Well, the Giants are currently at 49%, but the swings based upon the result of this game are crazy. We had them at some point, but if they're not in my notes, we don't have them. Yeah, if the Giants win against Washington, they go up to 72%.

If they lose against Washington, they go all the way down to 26%. So a huge inflection point for the season. Yeah. Huge. Huge. This weekend. By the way, this slate coming up is going to be just incredible.

Like, I counted seven games I'm legitimately interested in. Don't even have to bet on them. No, that's not true. All right, how about Broncos Panthers? What was said to Purcell to lead him to rage? Probably nothing. He just had enough of this shit, bro. You had enough of this.

Here's my question, y'all. Okay, my word is what with W-U-T? Like, what? Sam Darno, what? You lost the Sam? to Arnold, bro? He can't. No, I know he can. And he had some nice throws yesterday and everything, but this was a game between two teams that feel kind of like similar. You're like, oh, the question mark is a quarterback. But one quarterback's a Hall of Famer, right?

Yeah, one team was penciled into the playoffs by many as a wild card playoff team. Another was talking about worst record in the league potentially. And now it's just, my words colossal is in failure. Colossal failure. Hack it. Russ. that contract, the salary cap, no first round pick. You got to fire the coach. Fire the coach. And how about Brian Burns doing the Russell Wilson? That was just disrespectful.

That's bringing the Lord into it. Let's bring him the Lord into the disrespect. Oh yeah, yeah. You're not supposed to play with God. That's a holy war. You're not supposed to play with God. A couple years in the dark here coming up, cowboy. This is when you put the scaffolding up on the stadium, do some repairs.

You're not going to be relevant for a little bit. It's all right. Fix the unies in these couple of years. We can do that. Louis Hamilton will come in. He'll keep the bar in the top of mind. That's the first thing. They're not going to do it.

But we'll have Lewis Hamilton doing laps around the stadium. They don't have the balls to do it. You think they do it? I think so. Yeah. They're going to ask Madden. They're Madden coach. Yeah.

Fuck. I think they do it. Ask somebody at Walmart. Unfortunately, because I love Vaniel. All right. Well, let me ask you this. Does this affect his Hall of Fame chances? Russ?

I think absolutely. Yeah, that's strange. I had him as a penciled in as like a sure thing. And now what does this look like? What does the next fucking five, six years look like? Because you can't run. You can't quit, right? That's not in his DNA.

He wants to play until he's 40. Yeah. So he's already told you, like he can't say like I got old. He's already told you, I want to play till 40. That's the kind of fucked up thing. You're supposed to under promise over deliver. He's got this thing all wrong. Pulled up in a souped up Jeep with his own jersey on or whatever it was.

Talking about playing until 40. I'm in my prime. The years get longer, the older you get in the league, Chris. Can I tell you who the Broncos senior defensive assistant is, who would be a great interim? Oh, yeah. Dom Capers. Mm, Dom Capers.

Yeah. Carolina fame. That's right. How old is he now? He's 72. Oh, my God. I'd love to see Dom Capers running around doing his best Jeff Saturday impression. I just got.

Oh, you don't have a pick. No. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, go ahead, try to win a game. I think the Broncos should bring Derek Wolf back to coach. I'm so in. To counter Jeff Saturday. I'm the biggest Derek Wolf.

And then they're just a fucking, a two spot breaks out at midfield. Derek Wolf was such a badass. That team would get a lot tougher. I used to have to negotiate. We would go to Denver because John Fox used to coach there. We'd go there for a joint practice and I would negotiate with Derek Wolf at the beginning of the week. And I'm really?

What do we got going on? He's like, I came to see you about that. That's good. That's the best joint practice ever. Denver Broncos always. sunny in Denver. Next coach of the fucking Denver Bronco.

Derek Wolf. Why not? Tribal tat. Why not, dude? How many Broncos players can you name that would coach his team better than Nathaniel Hackett? Steve Atwater,

for sure. Love Steve Atwater. DeMarcus, where would Champ Bailey? You're counting him as a Trump. Brahmael is currently coaching.

Brockwell. He's in the fucking booth right now. Who's in the booth Friday night? He's in the booth Friday night. He's so tall. He'd oversee. everything. Talking about Jordan Travis and shit. Eddie Royal? He's doing great work on ACC Network. He would see everything. He's 68. Eddie Royal, yeah.

Eddie Royal, yeah. Live life to it is fullest. Brock Osweiler. How many Broncos would? I mean, honestly, how many former Broncos? Dozens. Payton. All right, how about 49ers Saints? Phaen. Forty-niners Saints, nothing. I got nothing for you. Did anyone watch that game? Shut out. Did anyone watch that game? I got Bupkus. I played in those games for eight years. I promise you that Saints Niners game is the game I played in three years. That's a good way to explain it. I couldn't even watch it. No points in four straight second halfs for the Niners defense.

How about New Orleans had the longest act of scoring streak and streak and fourth longest in NFL history at 332 games since being blanked by San Francisco in the 2001 finale. The last four times the Saints have been shut out, week 12 this year. 2001, week 17 against the 49ers. 1998, week six, against the 49ers. 1997, week nine, against the 49ers. To be fair, they used to be the division of champions, the NFC West.

It used to be the Panthers, the Niners, the Falcons, the, the, who am I forgetting? The Panthers, the Niners, the Falcons, and one of these teams of Saints. That was the NFC West. Wow. They used to get... What year was that in?

It was in the 90s back in my head. Oh, my God. You just said some fantasy land shit right there. Back when I was, I was a Panthers fan to the point where I would probably cry if they lost. The NFC North, that's always been the Vikings, Lions, Bears, Packers, right? No, NFC West. But I'm talking about the NFC North now. Yeah, for sure.

I think the Vikings, it's always been Vikings. Yeah, it's fucked up. It's like the Big East having teams. 1997, NFC West. Oh, right. Falcons and the Rams, too. So you had the Falcons, the Panthers, the Panthers, the Panthers, the, the Saints, the Niners, and the Rams.

Look at those Phoenix Cardinals and then FC East. The NFC Central, buddy. NFC. East. Remember that? Golly. Yeah. The Cardinals were in the NFCs because you used to see Dallas all the fucking time. Yep.

That is interesting. Emmett Smith went in division. Yep. We can't go back to this because of numbers, right? Correct. At least they had the NFC West or the AFC West, right? Everybody was out west. Okay.

Any other games? That's an interesting conversation. We got two left. Hey, congrats Bryce Perkins, man, throwing a touchdown at the pro level. And it was good that Sean McVeigh got him some reps, man. And I thought that's a really cool experience. Can you imagine being Bryce Perkins? You know, at the start of this season, you kept on the roster,

third quarterback, you know, just to keep him on the roster because they like him. If you don't know who we're talking about, we're talking about the guy that ended the Commonwealth Cup streak of 15 years straight. Took Virginia to an Orange Bowl. Took Virginia to an Orange Bowl. We love the guy. but you know not a big time pro prospect he's the third string guy if you'd have told him in camp like you're going to start at arrowhead

crazy but it was like some little giant shit out there with who the Rams trotted out around him the O line is abysmal it's abysmal like you know credit to the Rams for going up there and playing their asses off you know like going out there and playing hard and knowing you had no shot there were 16.5 point dogs

they covered credit to the Rams. That's my word. Mine is Pacheco because they really have a guy who they can hand the ball to time and time again when they want to change the rhythm up of the game. And Andy Reed showing some signs of the old dog can learn new tricks. He's

really enjoying handing the ball to him. Pacheco. Mine's Red Zone. Chiefs, one of six in the Red Zone scoring touchdowns. Not good, Cotton. Keep an eye on that. Keep in eye on. It didn't need it. Didn't need it, but keep an eye on it. It turned into the Ravens

in the Red Zone. Texans in Miami. sorry about it. Texans, because you did that just for the love of the game and for the paycheck because nobody watched. Actually,

a lot of people watched, Kyle. Yeah, Admiral's Club at LaGuardia. We were watching the Miami Dolphins game. Tell people what happened. So I went to the airport and every Sunday I have a pretty long layover

and this week I tweeted should I spend money on going to the Admiral's Club for a day pass? And everybody said yes. It was a resounding yes. So I went in there, spent 59 bucks. It's fabulous, by the way.

It's a whole different experience. airport experience. I sat at the bar. There was the Jets Bears game on the right, which was a one possession game at the time and an already three possession game at the dolphins. And a father and son who were going to Miami were adamant about changing the Bears game to the World Cup and keeping Miami's the dolphins on. And I was kind of like, fuck. I was like, hey, you know what? You guys take a, we can take a vote. That's when you say, hey, was it an amicable take a vote? Do you know who I am? No, not at all. There's no, there's no that. There's none of that. And also, who would?

I'm a fucking former... Well, it was a joke. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, I played for the Bears. You did play tackle one year. You were going to say guard. Yeah.

Guard. Yeah, he did it all. Oh, no, lineman. Hey, coach. So we ended up watching the Dolphins game in the World Cup. I wanted to watch the Bears. Bro, that's a huge code break. You texted us yesterday.

Is that a code break? It's absolutely a code break. And I'm not just saying this because Dolphins fans are the most insane people on the planet. like the audacity, the audacity. Mike White's on. Yeah. Who was the World Cup game? It was Germany and Spain.

Big game. Yeah, it was a big game. Oh, shocker, finishing a tie. Like every other single game in this tournament. Except the one that I bet. Hey, yeah, you should try these ties. If you just bet all of them, it works up. Yeah, it works up.

It works up. Hey, listen. Listen up. My word is river. Okay? as in River Craigcraft who called like 4 for 55 So I went to Rivers

College bio I think you went to Washington State Get to see if he had any cool sibling names or whatever Now they're there He has a sister named Lexi And her brother named Skyler Incidentally a Skyler started throwing

passes for the dolphins there at the end But guess what Rivers parents are named Valley and mountain. Nice guess. You're going to just ask me to Jack and Jill. Tracy. They are both named Tracy. No. Trace. The Greycrafts are both named Tracy.

No way. Yes. What do they do when the mail comes? It's for Tracy Crai craft. That's tough. Spell the same? That's tough. People open each other's mail and shit. Same haircut? Is Tracy there? I don't know. I don't know the yes. Oh yeah, yeah. Is Tracy there? Uh, who the fuck is this. Oh, I'm just calling for you. Right. You know. Love letters in the mail. Yeah, yeah, all that stuff. Sounds like Taylor Lawdner and his wife who took, whose name is Taylor and took his last name. So Taylor Lawtoner's married to Taylor. Wow. That is exactly what we're talking about.

Yeah. That's true that, Raid. Yeah. That was, I had no idea. That's informative. Yeah. Of Twilight. As is. Tracy and Tracy Craig Crack. Tracy's the Tracy's where are they from? I don't I don't know but his cousin Cheyenne she wrote equestrian at Auburn. Black Friday is here and I think we all know what that means. It's time to get your cuts essentials for next year. To us at Greenlight, nothing is more essential than some closet staples. That's why we go with cuts.

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Oh, I mentioned here. We got Best Plain Ride, Chris. Kyle, at this point in the show, I don't care. I'm just going to be honest with you. Buffalo Bills. They finally got up out of Detroit. It was like a prison sentence. Yeah, for sure.

Several weeks. Yeah. No, I'm not saying. Too soon. I'm not saying Detroit's lovely. You want a geography lesson? It's like east and west of certain other cities. But, you know, it can be nice to get away for a bit, but then you've got to get home at some point.

Backtrack. You understand? If we go to Detroit, somebody snaps you in half walking down the street. I really like Ann Arbor. Bills get two wins in Detroit. Get to go home. First back-to-back wins in Detroit. Ah, got them.

Sorry, I didn't let you finish. Go ahead, finish the joke. First back-to-back. like wins of Detroit and like forever. Nice, there you go. Got them! That's good. Best plane ride, no idea.

Okay, that's a pass. You got one? Las Vegas. I would imagine getting on the plane after a walk off would be pretty awesome and a shoot out like that. It'd be like a college game, kind of fun. Two in a row, overtime wins.

Not ready. Worst playing ride Atlanta. That was 10 plays 80 yards and four minutes. Second and goal from the Washington four, minute left. worst plane ride would definitely be Baltimore coming out from Jacksonville that's a pretty decent jaunt from down there near Neptune Beach and also you didn't finish

you didn't finish all day we talked about red zone problems and a lot of finger pointing maybe on that point guys the Saints played in a fucking 4 p.m. in San Francisco but we didn't even know that though yeah are they are they trying I mean Andy Dalton's been trying to get home so the air Falcons would have been in first place with the win The Falcons.

Yeah, that's crushing. And the way they lost that game? They live in six and six. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk about the Broncos ride home. There's a lot of bad plane rides this week. Mike Pursteld. Oh, the Patriots.

It's fucking Thanksgiving. What is a catch? Thought about that. What is a catch? That's where this whole damn thing started. Damn Hunter Henry. No, it's not Hunter Henry's fault. It's the fucking Zebra's fault.

It's the people on TV that are gas, us. They'll show a fucking replay and then people will be like, yeah, no, no, no, it looks good. Like Gene Stereator yesterday. Yeah, well, you see he's clearly down. No, he's not. Gene. They're just avoiding conflict on air. Does Gene Stereator have a fucking cameo? Because I want to write him a note. I don't even want a video back. I bet he does have came. Remember when we FaceTime with Gene Stereator? We did. The like a lead aid or something? Yeah, I was all hung over in Vegas and uh, I was I was courtside with the radio team and you face that hey jean steritor come here and we just had a nice little face yeah because he remembers me from the field and we used to talk and i like jean starrator

but what the fuck are you talking about jean and did you see the the dk maccalf review of that catch jean was like catch it was like jean what about when he rolls over and loses the ball you're right no catch well at least just do that yeah do that jean okay st. uh st louis memorial word i'm to give it to AJ Terrell, who was by all accounts, because you'd have to be a fucking, it would be a football junkie or have money on the commies to watch this game with the other options that were out there. But AJ Terrell was putting the straps on Terry McLaren.

Falling. I got a receiver on a 4 and 8 team. Is that enough obscurity for you? That's obscure. Christian Watson, 22 catches, six of them are touchdowns. And he was, and he was, legitimately struggling early in the air. Why about the lights come on?

How about the guy at the Jackson State game who was smoking a rib? Did you see that? That was so cool. That guy might win St. Louis Memorial Award. A lot of people thought he was smoking drugs because he had a lighter up to an object in the stands. He was drying up. Not so.

There was a rib that he was trying to heat up. That's amazing. Human beings are incredibly, what's the word? Resourceful. Resourceful. A lot of ingenuity on us. That was caveman style lighting that river.

It was amazing. STL Memorial, do you know that 69% or damn near close to it of their team sacks belongs to Max Crosby? So almost 70% of sack production for the Raiders is Max Crosby. The closest someone has been to that is 1989 when Tim Harris did it for the Green Bay Packers. He bawled.

Since 1989, nobody has held a lion's share of sacks like Max Crosby for their team. No, I know. It's incredible. And like, it just goes to show you like, I don't know. I remember at one point we were talking about him as being this kind of five-eight-sac-a-year guy. No, he's legitimately a...

10-and-a-half right now. People understand he's doing well, but that stat speaks to how well and relative to how poorly they're playing around him. You know, that was a good fact. Do you know that Greg Roman dies his goatee? So does Ryan Day. Yeah.

I think. You're bad weak for people who are dying their go-tees. Yeah. I mean, Brian Day took an hell Roman, we can't get the Red Zone going. Just for men. I love Greg Roman. I just, I want to see them turn it around.

What's the next mention? Hollow Man. Hollow Man. Hard to beat the guy who fucking ran over the snapper and the game ended like that. I mean, we were overthinking and giving it to anybody else. Basic rules. Well, I think the Hollow Man could go to the folks

that made the Hollow Man in Washington, D.C. There was to honor the late great Sean Taylor. Yeah. That's worse, actually. worse than losing a football. I think we got some explaining to do. I mean, if that's what you're gonna do, don't hype it at all.

Don't announce you're unveiling a statue. Just have the mannequin appear one day. Missmatch, it's a Nike top with a Reebok bottom. Look at the faces on the people looking at it. Look at that one woman. I mean, she might. Did you play the video too? Hopefully that's not anybody in his family because.

There's also soccer cleats. I would be just, yeah, what the fuck is? Adidas. Soccer cleats. We got exposed piping in the background of this fucking picture. It really feels like a last minute Christmas gift

Nike store in London Yes Buy this jersey Did you see the video When they unveil it It's oh yeah Yeah yeah yeah Yeah that's bad

Whoever designed that I mean like I'm wondering if the The Washington commanders are just doing shit now To try to distract from the fact that they're going to get sold They're looking for a good hub Meanwhile winning ball games Beville Conway I gotta give it

I gotta give my Bevel Conway way to USC, I know you guys are probably going to say the same thing because USC Notre Dame, the classic look, Coliseum, we covered it earlier. Natural grass. Yeah. Doesn't get better than that. It's hard to beat that, Kyle. The big white horse, his name is journeyman or Voyager.

No, it was like, actually his name is, uh, Challenger. Unfortunately, it was named after, um, a giant racist horse. And then. The Trojan horse. Yeah. Traveler. Yeah. Yeah.

And I think, uh, I think it was. was whose horse was it? Matt, you're the historian. Charlton Heston. It's the symbol of ancient Troy. Is it? Or is it Robert E. Lee's horse? Yeah.

I think Robert E. Lee's horse was named traveler. Yeah, you got to kind of retire horses named traveler. They were like, let's go ride until they have slavery again. That was his whole. But according to Google, Southern Cal's traveler is one L, whereas Robert Lee's has two L. Oh, they found a loophole. Yep. They found a loophole.

Robert Lee catching more L's. Am I imagining shit? Didn't we talk about this for like a calendar year? Uh-huh. Viewing party, it's Sean Payton season. He gets to start picking, picking where he wants to be. Chargers. Chargers.

Chargers. But at what record can Brandon Staley not be fired? I don't know. 10 and 7? But Chargers. It would be great. Listen, Kyle, got nothing against Brandon Staley. It's a production business.

Yeah, absolutely. I'm right there with you. Just remember it's fucking 21 and 22. I'd love to see Sean Payton coach. that young man. I'm not saying fire him. Viewing party. Hey, you want to let Sean Payton be the coach?

You can be the D.C. You can be the D.C. Like Hugh Freeze, he has to call Cadillac Williams. Today. Yes. I got a viewing party. I'd like to have been in the hot tub

at Jacksonville watching that one. It was a hoot of a ball game. You know, a lot of highs, a lot of lows. Do they have a hot tub? I would imagine they have a hot tub. I think it's just a pool. But if they had a hot tub,

that would sound good too. Yeah. Oh, really? That's fine. Because I got one just down the way if you want to share a tub. It's getting colder. Uh-huh. We can talk about our lives.

Yeah, there's not much going. Have a wine. There was a lot going, and then the Thanksgiving break ended. I have a fly on the wall as well. I would have loved to have been Ravens ownership slash management when they saw Lamar's tweet. Okay. Boy, shut the fuck up. Y'all be capping too much on this app.

Motherfucking never smelt the football field. Never did shit, but eat dick. exclamation exclamation what you know it's a little quote tweeted and he put it in the replies yeah you replied

you know like oh yeah in response to when someone's asking for over 250 mil guaranteed like Lamar is games like this should not come to Justin Tucker let Lamar walk spend that money

on a well-rounded team well listen the guy's not wrong about the first part but this is one game we'll judge him at the end of the season I'm not talking about

Ramar and about five I'm team lower here somebody else no but what I'm talking about is the first one is like if you're going to play like that you can't negotiate

for what he's trying to negotiate for you can't ask for what he's trying to ask for you have to hit these throws but this isn't who he is you know I really don't believe that and he's got a chance to finish year strong game balls Miles Sanders

143 yards on the ground two touchdowns called a few too Jacoby Brissette That running games excellent Didn't play You know out of control good But this week he has to hand the Or the football over to

To Deshawn Watson Careful what you say Yeah With Deshawn Can't just hand him anything Yeah Expound It's kind of an open and shutcase there

So I think this whole situation sucks We'll eventually kind of stop talking talking about it, but Jacobi Berset, he did everything he was asked to do. He was so classy, he's loved by his teammates, I play with the guy in New England, I just really love the dude, and I was really happy to see him handle himself the way he did this year and play well, and hold his head high and beat Tom Brady. So now you've got PJ Walker and Jacoby Brissette with game balls on the wall for beating

Tom Brady. They're going to show their grandkids. Like, where were you when I beat? That's big. Here's another one for you. Because really it comes down to which game ball, like which ball like memorabilia you have at home that you can look at and say, oh, I do I remember that day. Yep. Yep. Top beating Tom Brady is a big deal. How old is Jacoby Brissette? Uh, 29. I'm going to 8, 28. He's 29. That's interesting. Looks, looks older with that big beard. You know who looks older? P. Rhine's like. Sedgriereman. Yeah. Vives for sure. Yeah. We should hand out game balls for the pot. Not getting one.

Want to go home? Maybe it's Kyle. He had every single mention loaded up. That's good. I mean, pages of notes. I wouldn't say that. He was also famously voted president. Mother Parker.

Oh yeah. Congrats on being president. Watch this. This is what the guys do. Hey, you know what? This one's going to all you guys. They're all going to be in your locker on Tuesday. See you Wednesday.

Sike. See you Tuesday. See you tomorrow morning. And tomorrow afternoon. More pause. I don't know. Here's Nicole Auerbach. I got Nicole Auerbach with us and we're going to talk about probably the craziest, I don't know. Maybe it's because I was on the couch for the entire weekend watching college football.

So I really soaked it all in. But like that was a crazy ass weekend. Scale 1 to 10, Nicole, like relative to a normal rivalry weekend, how crazy was it? I mean, it was up there. Obviously there's been some years where like the Iron Bowl was for everything and there was some craziness there. but I mean, USC has been down. So USC Notre Dame hasn't meant this much. And Michigan flipping the rivalry and really taking control of that series is super interesting.

It's been so long. So I think it was way up there. You also saw a historic blown lead by Oregon. I mean, I think that was the biggest meltdown that I've seen all season. So there was just a lot. So I think it's close to a 10, if not, you know, nine something. I mean, it was really up there. It was one of those where like I woke up in the day, had a kind of a feeling about how some of the games we were going to go.

And instantly that was proven incorrect. Like the only game that went the way that I thought it was going to go for sure was USC. Damn, I wish you warned me because I was on the goal. I know. I know you did. You did. You threw me some, you know, you, you help because like what I, I don't know college football like you do. And obviously I don't, you know, I don't watch it even as much as, you know, the average fan.

And so I, sometimes when I have a lien, I got a, I got to text a friend or message a friend. And so you helped me on the Michigan bet. And then there was one more. Oh, Minnesota, who covered. Yeah, that was great. All things Big Ten, I'm going to you. So I'm looking at the playoff and I'm saying to myself, what happens if Michigan loses? I don't think it's going to happen.

I'm not suggesting that. But I know we've kind of run through the SC loss scenario. But how about Michigan losing to Purdue? Yeah, I don't think that that would knock them out. So I think Georgia and Michigan are in no matter what. A lot of people are putting TCU in that category. And honestly, they probably deserve to be. I just don't know that the committee would treat them that way

because they haven't really gotten the benefit of the doubt in the way that other programs have. But they should be in, too. I mean, they've played a really strong schedule. Lots of top 25 wins. So they should be well positioned. Kansas State's a good team. But that's probably the diciest of the Power 5. championship games. I guess you could say USC Utah as well just because Utah beat USC. But that was

like an incredibly emotional game at home for Utah and they won by one. So I do think there's probably you know, I'm sure the Trojans are going to be favored. I'm sure a lot of people are going to expect USC to win that game. TCU feels like more of a toss up. I would still put them in the playoff. I think right now we just saw a lot of people eliminate themselves and like the best chance to come in as the backup I think is Ohio State. Well probably, well, We'll actually see this week because this is one where it actually helps to watch the made-for-TV show on Tuesday night because they're going to have to play their cards on Ohio State and Alabama and just sort of like what happens if one of the top four messes up because so many people are locked in, so many people aren't playing this weekend. So you won't really change this. So they should pretty much tell us on Tuesday if it's Ohio State as the backup option.

What matchup would you be most excited about in the playoff? Well, I do think that as we're headed now, as it's squaring up now, it would be a Georgia, Michigan rematch in the championship game. Obviously, they played each other in the semis last year. I think that would be super interesting. I would love to see TCU's offense against Georgia's defense. So that's a possible, you know, one-four game or USC's offense against one of those defenses, right? So I think either way, as long as Michigan and Georgia are,

one, two in some order, and then USC and TCU are the other two. I think you have some really intriguing, intriguing setups, especially because TCU and USC are so imbalanced, like, their offenses are awesome, and then their defenses are just not. And USC has had this insane turnover luck, which, you know, keep waiting for that to run out. It doesn't. But they still, like, they actually played far better against Notre Dame. Like, that was a more convincing win with actual separation in the game, which is not how USC has won a lot of their games. So that's interesting to me, but I would love to see Caleb Williams or Max dug in against both of those other defenses.

So I just kind of hope that that's the way it shakes out. I was texting with my dad, who is obviously a big Michigan fan because he has spent a lot of money at the University of Michigan. And he was saying that he would much rather get TCU. So he'd rather the Michigan TCU is the two, three game in avoiding Caleb Williams is probably going to win the high school. And you can't really argue with that. That's the X Factor guy.

And honestly, you know, I'm watching last night. And, you know, I don't watch every USC game. But damn, dude, this guy, you know, he will keep you in any game, I feel like. And now, they could go get blown out in the playoff. But it won't be because of him. I mean, he, I'm watching last night. I'm thinking about them in the Big Ten. I'm thinking about, like, you know, they're playing a very physical team,

very big physical football team that has not gotten gas. that way. I mean, have they been gashed that way all year? Notre Dame? Yeah. Not, not really. I mean, that wasn't, like, they've had some really bad losses. Marshall and Stanford are bad losses. Yeah. But, I mean, they were just carved up. Yeah, there were moments, but no, not, not that way. I mean, what Caleb Williams has done over the last couple weeks, like, he's playing on a different level than anyone else in college football. Right. Yeah, no, he's the He's the Heisman trophy winner as long as he doesn't screw it up, in my opinion. We talked about this on the, on the show last week. I think was, but he just looks so damn cool doing it when you bet against him as I did. I was just blown away

by all the times that we, Notre Dame, had him dead to rights. I mean, dead to rights. And there were a lot of bad luck circumstances for Notre Dame in that game and all that. But USC had to feel good about on a big stage with Lincoln Riley and the roster is going to be better the more he recruits, right? Because Notre Dame probably from a roster standpoint, you could argue has the better roster but Caleb Williams is just that much of a difference maker. I mean, you got to feel good about what the rest of the country saw is like eventually you're going to join the Big Ten. Maybe we can hang in there. And maybe style of play isn't that big of a deal for us. Yeah, I was thinking about that to you, but also just like how fun it would be to have this type of

style of play thrown into the Big Ten. And also, you know, with some of the new hires that like a Matt Rule and a Luke Fickle joining the Big Ten, like the roster of coaches is going to make this really, really interesting in different ways. that these coaches like to win. But yeah, I mean, I'm the first to admit. I mean, I did not think USC would take this much of a step in year one. I know about all the turnover. Like, I know that the transfer rules in NIL made it possible to add all of this talent.

But I remember saying to myself when Jordan Addison transferred there, which, which is you remember, like, that was a huge deal. Pat Nardosie was accusing USCF tampering. It was right at the deadline. Like, it was very dramatic. I remember thinking, well, I mean, I get what they're doing. They're trying to make sure that USC is a destination. But are they really like one receiver away from like the playoffs?

No. Like I mean, I don't know. Like it's a good get, but like is that really going to be the difference? And as it turns out, like it may be because, you know, you just another weapon for Caleb Williams, who is just incredible. I thought of you in the post game when they were trying to push him, Holly Rose, trying to push him on the Heism and stuff. And they were also showing the highlights of how his teammates literally, like, crowned him. Yeah, he did the He did the Heisman thing. I caught him doing the husband thing in the second quarter.

But he led his teammates literally, like, put a fake crown on his head and, like, drape him in a Superman cape. And I just thought of, like, how much you must have loved that because you think he's so cool. I do think he's so damn cool. I mean, he's so cool. I've never been more sure about a damn college quarterback being the real thing at the next level. I don't know. I'd have to go look back in the last 10 years. but just in watching him play five times this year five times you know and definitely uh it's not

just a USC thing right it's it's not the only place he's been but i mean i'm i'm sold i don't see how you can't be again like i don't think anyone's playing better than him yeah i think people are now starting to wonder you know is brys young better than him like no do you take cala williams one yes is he going to be key b one i think i would out of out of the entire country yeah It's Caleb Williams for me. Who's on upset alert the most this weekend? You know, is it TCU against Kansas State? SC in Utah, we've seen that movie before.

Or is it Michigan against Purdue? Who's played pretty well as of late? Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's really going to happen in the SEC or the Big Ten title game. These feel pretty lopsided, especially with LSU coming off, lost. Like Purdue has been very volatile. They have been really, really good, and then they've also been really, really bad. And it's possible that this turns into the game last year where Michigan just totally

stepped on Iowa early and then it was just over. It's possible that that game goes that way. We'll see. I think it's an exciting matchup, at least it's not Iowa, where it's the team that we've already seen play Michigan. And it's painful to watch. But I think it's probably TCU. I think they're already played K-State, which is, you know, one of the benefits of the 10 team, Big 12, because they have actually played true round

round robin. But in that game, that was Adrian Martinez went out. Will Howard played really well. He's obviously been awesome for Kansas State. But they're just a really tough team. They just throttled Kansas. They have had some really big wins, like blowout, blowout wins. This season, I think they're really good.

I think they're really well coach. Chris Kleinman's done an incredible job there. So I think it's them because even though they have three. losses even though like and we can go through all the losses and by the way the loss to lane not bad at all this is a team that's hosting in the aAC championship game but like even though kansas state has lost some of these games i'm still like is this the best team in the big 12th like i thought that all season long yeah so like that i think that's that it's it's probably the toughest possible match of the tc u got again i think they should have the wiggle room where they

should be in regardless but i also think that it's probably a good idea just to beat kansas state. But I think it's an awesome matchup. I think that will be the best and closest game of championship weekend. Okay. So Matt Rule to Nebraska, Luke Fickle to Wisconsin, which hire do you like better? I like both of them a lot. I particularly think the Wisconsin one is interesting because so many people thought it was going to be Jim Leonard, the interim, just getting promoted and kind of carrying over the way that Wisconsin has always been. Obviously, he was, you know, had worked for Paul Chris. He had played at Wisconsin.

So I like zigging when other people thought you were just kind of going to zag like in a straight line. But Matt Rule, I love Matt Rule. And I've known him for, you know, dating back to his temple days. And I just think that that is a slam dog hire from Nebraska's perspective. Because, you know, there's no reason that Nebraska should have been struggling as long as it has, right? Like, I know, you know, in different areas of college football, like, it was always going to be easier when you could just kind of like take walk-ons and build them into, you know, offensive linemen and just kind of dominate people with the rock.

Like, it was. I get why that was a better era for Nebraska. But, you know, they should, they should kill it in NIL. There's no pro sports in this area. They have all of these resources and all this money and investment and the fans are there. Like, they should be able to win. although Big Ten going away from divisions, which people expect that is going to make it harder. But to me, if you hire the right coach, you should be able to win there.

And Matt Rule, turning around Temple, which is not an easy job, and then walking into Baylor after the Arpryl scandal, that was just absolutely not an easy job. And like the entire transfer, the roster had transferred out and just being willing to do that. And also doing that from Temple for, you know, in northeast, east coast. guy walking into Waco and doing that. Like he has these relationships, these high school coaches in Texas that still exists to the stay.

He's in the NFL for a few years. They love him. And that's where they've struggled, right? They've struggled to grab kids from Texas, right? Since they left. Yeah. And that's a huge, that's a huge factor. And they're going to be able to get Texas kids.

But they're also, he's just, he's a great, just a relationship older, connector communicator. I am interested, like, in the couple of years that he's been in the NFL, a lot has changed in college football, like NIL, transfer portal opening up, a lot of that stuff was not, like we were trending in that direction when he was last in college, but it's not there now. But yeah, I mean, in terms of like, you know if you're Nebraska, you needed a high profile name, but you also

really needed a builder. And this is someone who is built in multiple difficult situations. And so that's what, like, this is what I want athletic directors to do. I want them to hire people who have one, at places that are hard and have done it in multiple situations. So it's not like there was some magic fairy dust in one place and it only works there. Like Chris Klein, we're just talking about Kansas State. He was super successful at the division three level. Lance Leipold, super successful at the division three level. Like you don't think that's going to translate.

That's why I just, I just wish people would hire this way. And so hiring that rule is a big name, but it's also a builder. And it's someone who's done turnarounds before and knows how they work and where you have to start. So I am really excited about that because, you know, Nebraska has a real athletic director in place and a really, really good coach in place. And all of the support and the resources and everything like that is already there. So they should be able to turn this thing around. Wisconsin, I'm interested because, you know, they need to up their resource level and their back end support.

Like the recruiting staff, NIL, all of those other staffing, like when you look at a photo of Florida and you see the players and then you see a million. and staffers and like people who work under Billy Napier like they need more of that. Yeah. And resources and all of that. So, um, you know, I'm sure Luke Fickle is is going to demand all of that and he probably did. He's probably already agreed to. It's probably part of all of this, right?

And so, um, I don't think he takes that job otherwise, but that's where they need to take that step. But that is a fascinating hire as well to me. Um, and I, I just think this is already speaking to like that separation, Big Ten, the SEC are going to be bringing in so much more money, those schools. they're going to be able to go out and get the best coaches. And so these were two of the best coaches that were available. ACC coaches, we got to go find like D3 coaches,

who are also great, but not going to be as hot commodities. I like that, though. Honestly, I really do. I mean, you make a great point. Speaking of coaches coming from, you know, like quote-unquote lower divisions, Dion Sanders, like people are talking about him for the Colorado job. If I'm Dion, here's where I would pass on that job. You know what I mean?

Like I don't know. Really hard job. It's a hard job. Yeah, I caught him yesterday. They were catching 35 at home against Utah. Okay. Like I don't see how that job has the ceiling, especially because for Dion,

I know there's a lot of people, reality is waiting for him to screw up so they can say like, yeah, see, um, you know, I, I would like him to bide his time and get a great job with unlimited

NIL funding and, uh, at a program. that can compete for championships. That as a fan of Dion. But I don't know what he wants. What do you think Dion wants? And do you see any good fits opening up for him in the near future?

Yeah. Well, it's interesting because I think, like, you know, because his name had been banteed about because he wanted Florida State and Arkansas and some of these jobs, like people thought that this jump from, you know, an HPCU to the Power 5 was like preordained. But that's a huge jump. And so I think if Colorado is the school we're talking about, that means that some of these other big jobs.

were not ready to make that type of a jump and, you know, high risk, high reward type higher. So I'm with you. I mean, I would wait for a good job to open up. And I think it's always interesting because, you know, when you talk to different coaches, you know, they've all got lists, right, of even within each conference, you know, just because of Power 5 job, well, like, you know, you're not set up to succeed. Or like, here is what successes and it's capped here or whatever that might be. Like, okay, so like, like, for example, let's ACC,

see Mike Elko taking the Duke job, probably not a good job. Like other coaches would have said, that's not a good Power 5 job because of these other teams in your conference, the academic restrictions that you're going to face, like all of these different things that are going to make it harder in its basketball school. People would say all of these different things. He took it and they just won eight games, right? So you can do it with the right coach. But Colorado is in a really tough situation.

They've also got rules around transfers, like incoming transfers. And different pieces that have made it really challenging in the first place. But I see why they would be interested in, you know, in Dion and all the excitement it would bring. There hasn't been excitement around Colorado. But I'm with you. I mean, I even think you take a good group of five job. Like there's a lot of places where you are set up to win or contend in your conference. And that's what you want.

You don't want to take a job that's a bottom feeder in a league. Like a Florida school or something. Like a, you know, South Florida, UCF or something. Like somewhere because regionally, I think he would. would crush it. I think the regional thing is important too. That's part of why I think Colorado, you know, if I'm him, I'm a little hesitant because I think he would just, you know, he's clearly in a sweet spot in the southeast and like you might as well. But maybe people were banking on, you know, the Mike Norville era not working out. Maybe that was going to be a place. But now that

worked out. Like Florida State has been one of the great stories this year. They really took that next step speaking of that how good is jordan travis because if if you just watch jordan travis the other night i was like damn this guy is special yeah no no he's been he's been that good this year what's what you'll love this i mean i i want you when we're done here well when you're done sunday football look up some some clips of jordan travis and their offensive line last year two years ago because he took such a beating yeah and obviously not all of that was on him like the O line has been an issue which is why like Alex Atkins, the O line coach deserves a ton of credit.

But he didn't look very good. Like people, you know, again, it's like, who do you put the blame on? I'm saying. I'm like, who is this guy? Yeah, but that's what's so cool. Like this is why they're one of the great stories. Like it's the same quarterback and now he's electrifying. He's had all these great wins for them this year.

He's staying upright, right? And like, I remember E.J. Manuel told me before the season, he's like, you know, I think they're going to be better. on the offensive line and like if this kid can get protection, he's going to be really good. And I was like, okay, well, like, I mean, you know, right? You're around this program. You've seen them in practice, whatever. And then it like really showed up. And it's, it's just, I think that's what's really cool about programs taking the next step when they do it with like the core guys who were there. And like, he took such a beating. So many sacks, so many hits. So no, I mean, like,

what you saw is how he's played this year, especially at his best. But he's been really good this It's been, it's been great to see. All right. Last one here. Clemson, South Carolina. You hate to see it. You hate to see those guys down in Clemson lose games. Certainly hate to see Davo running down the hill out in front of his team and losing

at home. But is Clemson, are we worried about Clemson? Like, as a powerhouse, is Clemson going to now be like, you know, a perennial eight-win team? or is their ceiling without Trevor Lawrence or, you know, Deshawn Watson, something lower than we thought? First of all, I can tell that you're really, you're really torn up about. I hate saying that. I can tell. Nicole, you hate to see a guy, give it his all down that hill.

And really. You're just like watching him run down the hill before the game? I'm honestly kind of impressed. Here's what I was thinking about. Nicole, I was first. I was like, man, what a me guy. and then then I was like you know when I started to notice I was like he never tears his hamstring he's never pulled his hamstring running down the hill which is pretty

damn impressive I got a hand to the guy I don't like the guy but got a hand to him like because I was at Whole Foods the other day and had to hustle to cross the crosswalk no but I felt my hamstring I was like damn dude did this in softball now did this in whole foods almost and I'm thinking myself, Davo, kind of impressed. I agree. I agree on the athleticism and the feats of athleticism that we see from him at every home game. On the hill, overspeed. No, I know. Running down a hill, not easy, surprisingly difficult. So I think the questions about like existential questions are, are spot on. This is going to be a really difficult offseason for Clemson because Dabo is so set in his ways and a lot of the

things he's been challenged on for a time. It looked okay. And then, Now it doesn't, right? And so everyone's wondering, okay, without a generational quarterback, without these long-term coordinators, right? Like we can talk about Brent Venables and what's going on at Oklahoma. Fans that are very frustrated with their wins and lost totals this year. We took Tony. Yeah. So, you know, yeah.

Yeah. So you lost Tony. You lost Venables. So in terms of play calling, development, the defense being like in like top five range versus being like top 25. Right. Like, there's a difference. And so just sort of all of those different pieces, but then not using the portal, not embracing NIL, not really supporting, like, empowering players in this time. We can have a coach K situation where, you know, Coach K eventually came around to the new way of college athletics.

He's going to have to. I think, well, that's where, like, again, I think it's like existential crisis topics because it's like Dabo is going to have to decide if he's willing to. adapt and change and embrace these things. And obviously the quarterback is a problem. He was answering questions about it because again, they're still gonna play an ACC championship game. Them in North Carolina, totally backed into this, like it's gonna be the least exciting

of all the conference championship games. And he didn't like that he was getting asked, like is DJ your quarterback? Why is DJ your quarterback, right? Like, but you know, this is all just because things worked for a really long time. And people could question him and it didn't matter. And he's stubborn.

He's set in his ways. He likes how college football was five years ago, 10 years ago. Yes. It's not. So, yeah, I think all of that stuff is up for grabs. All of that stuff is going to be questioned. It's going to be a long offseason for Clemson as they have to figure out, you know, what happens when you're, you know, you're not like dynasty Clemson and you still want to be in that upper most echelon.

How do you stay there? How do you get there? And how do you, yeah. You got to lean on the bowling alley they have in the facility. That's just what I would do. And the slide. And the slide. in the slide.

Honestly, it's objectively pretty tight. But yeah, I don't know. If I were a Clemson fan, I would just be like, damn, that was a fun little era.

And I don't know if we're going to be back there. Like, this is, you know, and the reality is this year, this is as close to anybody's game as it was. You know, and the ACC was down.

You had that big list of great ACC quarterbacks. Well, they didn't all play well. You know, so this is the year that you could have backed into the playoff. off and you didn't. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, that's what I would be most concerned about is that the rest of the ACC wasn't very good and you've still lost these games. And also, like, South Carolina, phenomenal two weeks for them, of course. Spencer Rattler, games of his life. And just awesome. Love Shane Beamer. We talked about last week's show as the Shane Beamer Fest. But like, you knew that they were capable of this.

They just did this to Tennessee. And then they beat you again. I mean, they're just, they were just a lot. lot of questions. Conson did not look like a great Conston team this year, so I'm glad that they're not going to be in the playoff and get blown out in the playoffs. But they've got some problems. And like, it's just, you know, we've seen Nick Saban adapt. We've seen Nick Sabin adjust to the times. And we have not seen DaBow do that. And it's just, it's easy to see that now last year wasn't just a blip. These are big picture questions that he's got to answer if they're going to stay at the top.

Vegas was begging people to take South Carolina. They gave him 14 and a half points. You know, I was afraid. Some of us, some of us called that. No, I, I, I was on NBC news on Friday night, and they were like, are there any good upset pits? And I was like, yeah, South Carolina over Clemson. So I was like a genius. You are a genius.

Nicole, you were on fire today. Everything, dude, we, we got through damn near all of it. It was all crazy. And just, you know, to think, I could have, I could have bet USC if I knew the great Nicole Arraback was on the Trojans. you should have asked me about that game i know i know damn you could talk me out of it damn all right Nicole i appreciate it and uh hope thanksgiving was good and we'll talk to you next week okay all right have a good one