Green Light with Chris Long - NFL WK14 Recap! Brock Purdy Beats Tom Brady, Lions Surprise NFC & Chargers vs Dolphins.

Episode Date: December 12, 2022

(2:04) - America's Teams & SNF: LA Chargers vs Miami Dolphins & Justin Herbert vs Tua Tagovailoa. (33:13) - Green Light Power Rankings & Where do the Lions Stand in the NFC? (46:04) - Different Trend...s for Cowboys & Eagles as Season End Draws Closer. (58:36) - San Francisco 49ers vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers & Brock Purdy vs Tom Brady. (1:05:51) - Buffalo Bills Escape NY Jets. (1:16:11) - NFL One Word Games: Baltimore Ravens vs Pittsburgh Steelers, Carolina Panthers vs Seattle Seahawks, Cincinnati Bengals vs Cleveland Browns & KC Chiefs vs Denver Broncos. (1:24:27) - Miller Lite Mentions! Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b   Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42   Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1   Green Light with Chris Long:   Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. https://www.greenlightpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:47 And in Michigan, 1-800-2707-1-17. Tennessee, y'all 2. 1-8009-9-9. Welcome to the Greenlight Podcast. Cowboy. We've recap the NFL week 14 storylines, and the playoff picture is forming. The 49ers and Brock Purdy beat the brakes off the bucks. What is going on in Tampa Bay?
Starting point is 00:01:12 Tom's trying to figure it out. Jacksonville looked great yesterday in their win over Tennessee. The bills survived Mike White. The tough as nails, Mike White. Looks like he might have secured the job in New York. And did they have a shot at the playoffs? An NFC, don't look now, the lions are creeping up right behind you. We talk about all that.
Starting point is 00:01:29 And we hit our Miller Light mentions, our power rankings, our America's teams. We'll be back tomorrow morning with Bo and Chris. Y'all enjoy. Good to see the Monday gang back together, guys. Kyle, welcome home. Thank you. Feels good to be in house again. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Guys, how we doing? We've seen a lot this past weekend, haven't we? Seen a lot. Did a lot. Christmas party last week. I went to a Christmas party. I've never been to like an adult Christmas party. Kate and I went.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Frank Hardy Real Estate. Thanks for putting that on King Family Vine. It was a nice party, though. I understand the allure for Christmas parties. You don't like the plug of the competitor? No. No, I don't. Just a Christmas party.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Yeah, but that's disrespectful, no matter how you cut it. Free wine, you know. They cucked you. Yeah, that's just a disrespectful comment. Maybe next year you'll throw a Christmas party. Maybe, maybe. But, you know, what I decided is the people, they, they zap my energy, you know. You know, I'm like a, I'm like a cell phone when you, when you place it on a charger.
Starting point is 00:03:16 That's my couch. That's where I recharge. Yeah. But the people, no, talking to people, seeing people. It's like having one bar and like a lot of apps open. Oh, golly day. Yeah. Tough. Yeah. Which people. Speaking of charging. Mm-hmm. I want to talk about the chargers? One of my America's teams. Wow. Nicely done. Good job. Yeah. Yeah. Steered us away from the Titanic there. So we, uh, you mean the iceberg? Whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:46 The iceberg. Well, you probably don't want to run to that either. Yeah. Technically. That'd be a bad scene. Yeah, really bad. Damn, that was a big boat we just hit. Reminds me, Titanic way underwater, right? If I was steer, I'd be in a submarine.
Starting point is 00:03:59 True. What did I watch two weeks ago? I watched Crimson Tide. Have you ever seen Crimson Tide? Probably not. Kyle, have you seen it? Like Alabama. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:08 In Crimson Tide, I want you to Google. Vigo Mortensen and Crimson Tide, Kyle. And tell me he doesn't look like our dad. I'm gonna do it right now. Okay. Mortensen, Crimson Tide. Yeah. Look him up.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Crimson Tide. Here we go. Wow. Wow. It looks exactly like Howie. It looks like a young Howie Long. You know what? He found a picture of Dad and said,
Starting point is 00:04:30 this is who I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be that Raiders Pass for us. I am Howie Long. He's recently starring in Broken Arrow. Dad was on the scene at this point doing firestorm and stuff. I think he had Vigo shook. Denzel also in that movie. Yeah, then's always great in that movie.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Okay. I want to talk about a firestorm. Shit, Tua, huh? 3 to 18? Should we just talk about this game in America's teams? Sure. Okay. And before we get going, I want to shout out a buddy of mine who just got out.
Starting point is 00:05:02 In all honesty, he was incarcerated for a little bit, and now he's home, so I want to welcome him home. Dan Orlovsky. He was a prisoner of the moment up at Bristol for at least 16. eight weeks. He did a long stretch. And now he's come back into Earth's orbit, along with many of you analysts who have joined in the gaslighting and the click farming. You know, I'm convinced that about halfway through this season, people realize that Dolphins fans are an online mob and they're afraid of them. And they want, and I mean, we're all a little afraid of them, dude. I have an alarm system at my house and shit. Like at least 15% of that is for Dolphins.
Starting point is 00:05:42 fans but like a lot of people are like hey I can get clicks this way acho easy peasy easy um bright colors it feels good not to be gaslit man it feels good not to be you know dan or a lot o'relowski and i am a big fan of dance he said last night like internet do your worst i almost did a fridge talk personalized the dan oloffsky i haven't done a fridge talk in months to be honest i don't like doing them feel kind of weird guy talking into a fridge it's like a weird i love it as well i really like them energy inefficient i don't I don't get them any clicks. I'm tired.
Starting point is 00:06:14 You know, if it takes like three, four takes, it could take a while. But I almost sent one to Dan Arloffsky last night. Here's what you could do on ESPN today. A power rankings of the two quarterbacks. Why don't we do that? From the game last night. Power ranked the quarterbacks from the game last night.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Justin Herbert. I got one, I have Justin Herbert. Okay. Two. Chase Daniel. Chase Daniel. I think they ran Wildcat, one of the teams, too, last night. So, but no, here's the deal.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I say it every week. When Tua comes up and people were saying like, hey, you know, you're qualifying all his wins and this, that, and third, it's December now. These games matter. And, you know, Chargers are not a good defense. They were banged up and they played over their heads last night. I know Tyreek was hurt. I know there were issues there. But this is just, you got to be better than that. And I do think Tua is an okay quarterback. He's not a bad quarterback. But I do believe, and one of the reasons that I threw the charges in a big parlay, money line is because, you know, I do think there's a mental side to Tua's game that he's still working on. It's pretty evident. When you get pressure on him, he gets the happy feet going back there. He didn't look comfortable last night. And that's two weeks in a row. So it's
Starting point is 00:07:28 December. You got a short week. Their plane landed fucking three hours ago in Miami, dude. It's 10, 15 in the morning. They, like Tua got back to his apartment three hours ago. And, and, and, and, An apartment? Whatever, wherever he lives. He got there three hours ago. You got five days before you have to go to Buffalo. Like clock starts now, and it's going to be snowing Saturday night. So this is going to be a monumental game for them,
Starting point is 00:07:57 because letting the charges back in this thing, I mean, the biggest irony in the world is every two of fan prayed for this day. You get a chance to go square off with Justin Herbert again, Justin Herbert 2.0, and it couldn't have gone any worse. because Justin Herbert was a fucking, he was efficient, man. You know, Barry McCorkle last night tweeted that, you know, it looks like Miami has an offense that's suited for somebody with Herbert's arm and the Chargers run an offense that's suited for somebody with two his arm.
Starting point is 00:08:29 But yet, and still, Justin Herbert all last night, whether he was dinkin or Duncan, whether he was throwing the run, whether he was rolling right and tossing the ball 50 yards back across his back, body late in that game, the touchdown throw, the third and five on the right side line early in the game, he is a better quarterback. And I feel like Jim Carrey in the Truman show
Starting point is 00:08:52 when he's like, bro, this is not real life. Like you're just walking around like there's something wrong. And then last night it feels like I found the door, you know, the little door in the ocean. The staircase. Yeah, and Ed Harris is like, no. Don't do it. Don't do it. Harris is fucking
Starting point is 00:09:08 two and on. I got to shut the rain off. I'm sorry. I got to get out. I got to get out. Y'all are crazy. Y'all are crazy and it feels good. You know when Tua said last year? He said, well, he admitted this this year. He was like, last year I was like, do I suck? Like, that's how I felt as an analyst. I was like, am I missing this thing for the six-day-week period that he was playing Houston and Detroit's defense with Aubrey Pleasant coaching the D-Bs and so on and so forth? No, I'm just, I'm Jim Carrey. It's not that his performance early in the season hindered our evaluation of. It's not like I thought any lesser of him as a quarterback,
Starting point is 00:09:45 but it's situations like these. You go head to head with a guy like Justin Herbert. If you want to be the guy, go be the guy. You know what I mean? When the chips are down a little bit, go be the guy. You still have Mike McDaniel at the helm coaching this thing up and having the ship going the right direction. But at the end of the day, you're the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:10:00 You've got to make big plays. And Justin Herbert did that. He did that. I thought, you know, if I was to point to specifics into his game, I mean, I didn't think everything was on to it last night. I'll be pretty fair about that. And you can say the coverage was tighter, well, guess what? Like, you know, not every week you're going to have three yards of separation with your receivers.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Like there was a ball to Mike Keseki over the middle of the field, and Mike's got to go back for it behind his body. And they don't talk about it on a telecast, you know, but it's not just the tight coverage. When the coverage is tight, you need elite ball placement. And I think that's something that, you know, at different times this season has plagued them. When the coverage gets tight, the ball placement is not always perfect. And if you want to be mentioned in the MVP race,
Starting point is 00:10:43 if you want to be mentioned as Patrick Mahomes, the Jason quarterback, which is a conversation I cannot believe we've been having. Or Justin Herbert even, because I think Justin Herbert has to earn his way into that tier up there with Josh Allen and Joe Burrow and those guys. I think he's just below them, but if you wanna be in that tier, you have to outplay Justin Herbert in prime time
Starting point is 00:11:03 against the 26th ranked defense. So we'll check back next week. I haven't said shit. I've been pretty respectful. of Tua because I do think at the end of the day he's a he's a dude and I got a lot of respect for him and he's tough and I've rooted for him but his fans make it really hard to root for him so I will take a small victory lap this week I don't enjoy doing it but I do enjoy that big parlay cashing and I appreciate you for you yeah and what do you say to the layup of a counterpoint that
Starting point is 00:11:32 Tyreek was clearly hobbled okay win without Tyreek because every other quarterback in the league is doing that's what the next year does and fine that's what the next year does and Mike Williams and Keenan Allen being on the field at the same time for the first time seemingly all season like that was great that's a Beville Conway in and of itself it was a beautiful sight to see you know the whole thing I think if I was to point to one thing I thought the intentional grounding was big and that's one area that two has got to work on in his game he's not a big runner like he really isn't I mean you see the difference between him and Justin Herber like forget running for a first down even running to make a throw off the spot but like
Starting point is 00:12:10 in those situations, you can't just chuck the ball in the middle of field. That intentional grounding killed their drive and set up the three-point drive that put that game out of reach. That's a more impressive intentional grounding than just turfing it to find an empty spot. Don't give them a loss of down for that. Give them the penalty, but let them get the down back. No question. And I do want to shout out that kid Davis who played really well last night. He was all over dudes.
Starting point is 00:12:38 and then Nick Neiman saved Joshua Palmer's life on that fucking onside kick because Palmer, it went, was it Ben, Ben, he's Nick now. Nick Neiman is on the Chargers. Ben Neiman was on the Chiefs last year. Okay, got it. And they're brothers. So I'm right?
Starting point is 00:12:54 It is Nick Neiman? Nick Neiman. Oh, nice. I'm taking victory laps left and right this morning. I'm beating two and on. I'm beating Macon with the names, dude. This is a rare occasion. But the Dolphins, again, short week.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Jalen Phillips, I want to mention, this has turned into a hell of a player. I was wrong about a Miami dolphin, Jalen Phillips. I didn't think he, bro, when he was at Miami, he didn't look this athletic. He didn't look this big,
Starting point is 00:13:20 fast, strong, and athletic. It did not translate the way it's translating into his pro game. His pro game is, I love his game, dude. The effort he plays with him. I'm glad they pointed out his motor. He got fucking jobbed on that roughing the passer.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Thank God that drive didn't extend because we'd be saying that's why they lost the game. But I mean, it did. by a couple minutes in 25 yards or so, that call was atrocious. Atrocious. I think it might, yeah. Body weight.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I mean, it's, it was atrocious. And it was a couple hours after you saw Mike White almost be broken in half multiple times. Man, Matt Milano, the meat missile. No question. I want to mention that, let's talk about these playoffs scenarios with the dolphins and the chargers and that area of the AFC. The Jags are in it too. I just want to say this, like, we're not going to.
Starting point is 00:14:08 go too deep into the Jags game. But Trevor Lawrence looked great yesterday. Trevor Lawrence is putting together more good games than he has bad games right now. He's taking care of the football really well, and he's becoming more confident in that system with Doug Peterson. I think that they're continuing to jail. We were thinking that off Jump Street, they were
Starting point is 00:14:24 going to be great, and it took a little bit of time with them, but we don't know who the Jags are because their ceiling is high, but their floor is also low. You know, I think with the Jags, they're going to be fun to watch next year. You know, Trevor Lawrence, with another year under his belt under, you know, Doug Peterson,
Starting point is 00:14:41 because he obviously, he obviously is how, and here's the thing about Trevor Lawrence. One thing Doug took advantage of with Carson is Carson, especially before he got hurt, was a really good off-spot thrower. Like he would make throws on the run, like he was athletic, that was his game. Trevor Lawrence can make throws off the spot really well. And I love that about him.
Starting point is 00:15:03 And now in the NFL, we evaluate quarterbacks based upon not just what they do with a clean pocket. But what they do, the things that Justin Herbert was doing last night. Creative ability, athletic prowess. It's like it really shines. Like your strength shine. And Trevor Lawrence is a big strong dude.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Big strong dude. He'll be throwing on the run. His torso will kind of swivel. That's like he's got like one of those swiveling quarterback torso's where it's like, I'm running this way, but I can turn back this way and rifle the ball. You know, like some guys,
Starting point is 00:15:33 when they're about to run out of bounds, they can't even, they can't dream of completing a ball run. full speed like he's got that ability so you know and another thing for him he's resilient because you spend a year with urban mire i wouldn't guess you'd rebound mentally but he's done a nice job so i just want to shout him out career high 368 yards uh he was 9 of 13 for 154 and two touchdowns on passes of 10 plus air yards against uh Tennessee things look good there they're they're in it Matt Matt McAkey give us the yeah they're on the outside looking in but you got to roll
Starting point is 00:16:07 your sleeves up like Jim. Steve. Steve. Steve. Yeah. 538 gives them a 14% chance of making the playoffs. Big game against Dallas at home this weekend. That's a big jump. If they beat Dallas, their chance to jump to 32%.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Yeah. A lot of it's contingent on what the Chargers do. Well, no shit. Well, let's say the Chargers come back down to Earth and lose to a bad Tampa Bay team. They can't. They're chargers, jets, and pets. They're not going to get past all three of those.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Jags are not making the play. No, Jaggs are probably not going to make the playoffs, but we are saying there's a chance. And they're fun to watch. It's an early investment. And the charges, I can't see what that number is, but the charges. Got them at 59% right now. Wow. I thought they were dead in the water.
Starting point is 00:16:51 I really did. I mean, like the way. And Brandon Staley, who we've been critical of, did a hell of a job last night. He got that defense to play well. Yep. And so. Without Derwin James and Sebastian Joseph Day. That's another thing.
Starting point is 00:17:03 All those guys are hurt. I mean, like when they were, they were, the camera was panting. to the stadium and showing the people that were out, I was like, it might be a long night. But Brandon Staley had those guys ready to play. And you know what they did well? They played up. They pressed on early downs.
Starting point is 00:17:18 They didn't press all the time, but they took away some space and they played tight. They weren't afraid of those guys on first or second down, where Tua gets in a rhythm. And early in the game, that allowed them to go three and out some, which they're not accustomed to. And him sitting on the sideline is not the way you want to be. Like, he's a rhythm thrower.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Okay, so. The Chargers next four, they have the Titans who are in a downward trend coming out the last. The Jaguars, the Colts, Rams, and Broncos. Okay. So that's running the table. Yeah. Right. They're in the playoffs right now.
Starting point is 00:17:49 The Pats win Monday night. The Pats jump into that seven spot for the moment. Okay. So let's finish America's teams. We just briefly updated you on the, the mushroom cloud created by last night's action. So, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, me. Morocco. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:08 The Morocco soccer team. They play France. I don't know, Lloyd, the French are assholes. Morocco has all the intangirables. Nice. Yeah. So they're just one of these teams like, oh, fuck Morocco. Who could be mad at Morocco?
Starting point is 00:18:28 First African country in the Final Four, is that right? That is correct. Morocco sounds like an amazing place. Shout out to my friend Sophie. Morocco. All the scenes in movies where there's like a red castle with like big red rocks behind it. Yeah. All those are in Morocco.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Yeah. All those movie scenes. All the beautiful scenes. Yeah. And it's a beautiful game and it's going to be even more beautiful. When do they beat France? Wednesday, I think. Okay, I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Mark it on my calendar. Okay, Eagles, they keep rolling. Me and Bo were at the Army Navy game. We were hammered. We called it our security guy, Dom, because we wanted to say hi to him. and he puts on FaceTime with Nick Siriani on the bus. It's like 2 p.m.
Starting point is 00:19:11 He was like, what's up, Chris? I was like, all right, yeah, the coolest coach ever. Nick Siriani, America's coach. He's cool as shit. Eagles, keep rolling. We'll get to that game in a second. Army and Navy. Army and Navy.
Starting point is 00:19:25 I love that. America's teams. I was there. The armed forces. I went and supported the troops. Who cares that Bo wanted to leave in overtime? He's anti-American. What?
Starting point is 00:19:34 Yeah, he was leaving a lot of soul. soldiers behind terrorist watch list had me on the septa watching the game not to mention the the over was in the balance well the as soon as as soon as overtime hit the over was hitting you know so luckily we teased the black nights with the uh the over with the under as well and that number was 38 and the exact thing that had to happen in overtime did so these god prevailed um i spent the fans are really fucking impressive man you know like all those years I was playing now that I get to do tailgating and like do this stuff like these people are weekend warriors thank you because I'm tired as fuck yeah I'm tired as fuck from my week and I'm a podcaster
Starting point is 00:20:16 like some of these people are working construction they're out there at 6 a.m. Yeah they're tailgating. Then they know where to find their seats and shit. Uh not always. Okay so that's Super Bowl in Houston. Yeah you had trouble. I went to the wrong seat for three quarters. I was with my buddy Jason Van Camp, shout out to Warrior Rising, Green Beret. These Green Berets are some of the smartest, most macho, most, like, they're just figure it out guys,
Starting point is 00:20:42 right? So me, Bo, and Jason Van Camp, two former NFL players who played in this stadium and one guy who could probably, like, diffuse a bomb, and it took us 10 minutes of game time to find our seats. We walked around the stadium twice at the link. The cavalry never arrived. The cavalry never arrived. You know, there was green smoke.
Starting point is 00:21:02 and we weren't there. Can't get in. Yeah. So shout out to Army and Navy. That was fun. That was really, really. I'll talk about it more
Starting point is 00:21:09 with Bo tomorrow morning on the Monday Night Football Review. Who plays Monday Night? I hope it's actually a good game. Pat's card. Oh, yeah, it's good. It's going to be fun.
Starting point is 00:21:17 At least entertaining. We might get Kyler Murray yelling at somebody on the sideline. That's my American stuff. Mack Jones might yell at somebody on the sideline. I hope. That was good. I like that.
Starting point is 00:21:27 A running game fucking sucks. Didn't you like that? I do. I like Mac Jones. Mac Jones went up in my book after that. Mac Jones is like, We are understaffed. We need help.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Yeah, exactly. Okay, Tom Brady. Okay, speaking of that NFC South, my first America's team is Carolina Panthers. Talk about a team who actually has a shot at making the playoffs. It's Carolina Panthers. That defense is talented and fun. J.C. Horn.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Brian Burns, Jeremy Chin, Shaq Thompson. They're per real. Hmm. Go on. Really good. Go on. They're playing hard for Steve Wilkes. They go out to Seattle.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Everybody's kind of aware of the stinky line, and it was stinky for good reason. But here's the thing, and maybe I'm not understanding this. Stinky means like there's something we don't know. We should talk about this. Right? Because I said to Steve, Steve was like, this line stinks. I'm like, no, it's exactly what you think it should be. Like the Seahawks aren't that good, and the Panthers have been playing well.
Starting point is 00:22:25 And Sam Darnold last week made nice throws. And Seahawks got some injuries on the offensive side, too. It was weird. Carolina Betters felt confident with Sam Trotten out there with Chuba and Dante and Levisca and Terrace. Guy's name, Terrace, a wild name. Carolina Panthers and Sir Perr, one of my America's teams. The University of Virginia, all right?
Starting point is 00:22:48 Now, this might lose a little bit of luster in two hours if the who's are not ranked number one in the country, but they're the odds on favorites to be ranked number one after Houston and Texas. What sport? lose last week. Men's basketball. Got it. Men's college basketball. Purdue could cuck us, but I think you're right. Purdue or Yukon could jump ahead of Virginia, but it's 20 years since the game of the decade.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Ralph Samson, Patrick Ewing, great writer Andrew Rams Packer had a great piece. 20 years. 40 years, 40 years since the game of the decade. Samson and Ewing. And Houston's coming to town, which would have been number one. It would have been the 18th time in college basketball history that one and two, played on a college campus. That would have been dope, but Houston couldn't get it done
Starting point is 00:23:33 against Alabama. Drive the ticket sales down, or prices, because I'm gonna try to get in that thing. Houston will be in the five to 10 range. And Virginia could be number one for the 18th time in school history. It's getting old. Hey, our guy, Kishon Davis had a big win over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:23:50 He won by the eight round unanimous decision. Kids awesome. Soundly defeating three-time world title challenger Juan Carlos Burgos. He's a Norfolk guy and he put the V-sabers on the trunks with the numbers of the three guys who lost their lives last month, which was a very nice tribute. I love that, man.
Starting point is 00:24:10 We met him in Vegas. You've heard that probably. You hung out at the studio at Blue Wire for a while. It was the nicest kid in the world. Talk to his trainers for a while, Virginia kid. New York Jets, my third America's team. I don't care a lick about them. No offense, Scott.
Starting point is 00:24:24 But I root hard for these cats. And they battle. White Mike got. blasted yesterday and just kept coming back. Zonovan Knight is now the lead back. Zonovan's not even a name. Bam. Right, Bam, Bam, Bam,
Starting point is 00:24:37 Naumvan, Bam night. Some rookie of the year buzz for Garrett Wilson. Yeah. They're just, I want them to make the playoffs. Sala gets into the, the post-game press conference and is, and is saying all the things you want to hear. Here's the problem.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Okay. At what cost? The lions, they play the lions this week. It's like going to be, it's like when they say, who's your favorite kids? Like, you know, like... I just hope they're healthy at the end of them. I'm basically dad this weekend.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Like, you know, everybody wants the Jets to win. Everybody wants the Lions to win. If you don't want those two teams to win, there's something wrong with you. I just hope they play hard. Yeah, I just hope they both play hard. I hope they tie. My fourth America's team is Justin Herbert.
Starting point is 00:25:15 We've covered it. He was electric. 39 and 51, 367 in a touchdown. And rounding out the group, the New Orleans Pelicans, winners are seven in a row. They're first in the West. They just won two in a row
Starting point is 00:25:26 against the Phoenix Suns. Let me talk to you about this team. It's Zion Williamson. It's C.J. McCollum. It's Trey Murphy. It's Herb Jones. It's Yonis Valcunis. It's your boy,
Starting point is 00:25:39 Larry Nance. Yes. Quiet 10 and 6 on the season. First in the West. You know who's two? Memphis. The Pelicans been in your power rankings or America's teams if Zion hadn't done that windmill dunk
Starting point is 00:25:53 at the end of the game? Yeah. Yeah, they would have. They nearly missed. because of that showboating maneuver by Zion. But hey, look, we're America, we showboat. We're- I saw an incredible basketball player.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I figured you probably did. Lord knows I don't watch a lot of it. The alley-up to win the game, you didn't see it. You got a league pass. Somebody caught an alley-up to win the game from an inbound play. Not like over by the bench, over by the bench. There's no time, a set piece.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Yeah, you gotta have good end of clock set pieces. This is a fun little NBA season that we will tap into in about six weeks or so. For now, I'm no idea. Caves, Cleveland's third in the east. It's a small little seasons. Yeah, well, I mean, like, hey, the West, Memphis and New Orleans, get a map.
Starting point is 00:26:40 That's true. Good point. Good point. What's next? Detroit. I'm glad you mentioned Detroit because they're the number one team on my America. The huge omission by us. I mean, how can you not put the lions on your list?
Starting point is 00:26:53 Say it again? Say it out loud. It's almost un-American. Say it out loud. I don't like. them okay this is a such a you thing is it because you love them no I I appreciate them I recognize what I respect them I just don't like them I think it's I think it's the indoor I kind of agree with the guy from Kansas City
Starting point is 00:27:12 this segment sucks if Detroit if Detroit wasn't in existence I wouldn't have made it to work today because I drove a Ford okay oh that's true I also would be when when downtrodden in life I would just stay down to the dumps but but a guy like Dan Campbell, he can really motivate you to pick yourself up. You got a Chevy in your garage too. Do you have the, do you have the pissing on the other logo stickers? Hold on, let me finish your making. Let me finish here.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Okay, so the redemption arc, you know, you've been exiled to Detroit, you're Jared Gough. What are you going to do? You should get a ball the fuck out all year. You know what I'm saying? And erase any doubt about who the quarterback is in Detroit moving forward. I love that. Number one, America's team Detroit Lions. Number two, the University of Southern California, Trojans.
Starting point is 00:27:56 And we talked about their horse, traveler, Traveller, whichever one it is. He's been canceled, but you know he's not canceled. Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams, he was in studio with us at the other pregame show yesterday at CVS Sports Network. Couldn't have been a cooler guy, nicer guy. Tall? He brought us, yeah, he was surprisingly tall. He brought his entire O-Line.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Anybody who took snaps this year at O-Line was with their Heisman winner in New York City, which I thought was awesome. He could be the next Archie Griffin. Who paid for those flights to New York? He did. Caleb did. He's got his own foundation, already. Oh, good. Like, this guy's ahead of the curve. Caleb, come on the show. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:31 Caleb Williams, cool guy. Number three, Argentina. They're in South America. Messi, he's an American. I'm going to put him on the list. He's an American? Yeah. South American. Yeah. Yeah. We'll claim them. We're the best. Okay. Yeah. Kind of looks like a guy from Ohio. So they beat the Netherlands. Apparently there's a guy in Argentina named Anhelde Maria, who I thought was an umpire until I did some more research. Turns out he's a player and hates the coach from the Netherlands. Louis Van Yeah, Louis Van Gaul, who is the coach, doesn't like on Hale-Damaria. There's beef there. In the game, Argentina beat Netherlands. Messi was talking shit to the coach. He kind of big brothered the situation. I love that. Yeah, that boy looks like Stonehenge, doesn't he?
Starting point is 00:29:14 Messy? No, the coach. They all kind of have. Doesn't he look like you just put a suit on Stonehenge? Ancient-looking faces? No, it's just the shape of. of his side pro. Look at this guy. Dutch soccer coach. He's got a stone head.
Starting point is 00:29:32 He shows side pro. He's an ancient. Fucking guys. Yeah. Look at it's just, it's just the neck and the heads all one thing. There must be something wrong there. I feel bad about even mentioning his name now. Stonehead's looking at as well.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Number four. You guys been getting a lot of Christmas gifts shipped into the house. You gotta wrap some stuff up. You get a lot of cardboard boxes. You know who has to deal with all those cards. cardboard boxes. The landfill. The recyclers of America.
Starting point is 00:29:59 America's team. Yeah, that's good. You know, because there's a lot of trash. He's like, when the fuck is the trash getting picked up? But we got no room. Number five,
Starting point is 00:30:05 I was going to put the Panthers, but you put the Panthers. So I'm going to put the Cincinnati Bengals because you go and watch this game and what's more American than a fireworks show? And I just love the Bengals. Yes. They've got their pieces intact.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Obviously, T. Higgins goes out. Boyd goes out. But Jamar Chase, it's 31 flavors of Jamar Chase. You know, everybody likes ice cream. Everybody likes Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah. And Joe Burrough is the man.
Starting point is 00:30:26 He's presidential. He is presidential. That's number five. The best moments in a sports fan's life are in football season. I'm not talking about September. I'm not talking about the first week in October. I'm not even talking about the second week in October. I'm talking about when it gets colder.
Starting point is 00:30:40 The temperature drops. The games get bigger. The hits get harder. And you can curl up and watch some meaningful football. I like to do it with a Miller light from the fridge and a cold frosty mug from the freezer. Frosty mug, meat. a cold, beautiful can of Miller Light from my fridge.
Starting point is 00:31:00 That's teamwork. We come together. We can make a great play out there. And the best play to make on a Sunday is a nice cold Miller Light and a frosty mug at home. That's my favorite thing. Maybe a fire in the fireplace. Yeah, now we're talking. But Miller Light, it's an original, and it's more than that.
Starting point is 00:31:16 It's been a fan favorite since 1975. The best part, no matter how your team plays, Miller Light is always a winner. The perfect beer for Sundays, I gave you the hot tip. Having that frosty mug is a lot like having home field advantage. I mean, like, it just makes everything better for your boy and your boy's friends who file in every Sunday to enjoy cold, ice cold, Miller light at my house. I mean, we have a lot of people over, and I've got to have the Miller light stocked up. A lot of light beer cuts back on the most crucial ingredient flavor, which is 96 calories and 3.2 cars. carbs per 12 ounce serving.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Miller Light, quick on its feet, heavy hitting on flavor. No wonder it's been MVP from day one. This football season, enjoy the sweet taste of victory with Miller Light, the original light beer. Find it pretty much anywhere beer is sold. Go to Miller Lite.com slash Green Light for delivery options near you. It's Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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Starting point is 00:33:18 Number one, this is the consensus power rankings of all the voters here in the room. Philadelphia Eagles, number one. Kansas City Chiefs, number two. We have a tie at number three, the San Francisco 49ers, led by Brock Purdy. Stubborn bunch.
Starting point is 00:33:33 And the Buffalo Bills. At five, the Cincinnati Bengals, your fifth America's team, at six of Dallas Cowboys, and at seven, the Detroit Lions. How about that? And this is,
Starting point is 00:33:46 I admittedly, I admittedly ranked the Lions seven. Myself, I know there were others in here that did the same. It was one of those things I was like looking around, like, are y'all going to laugh at me? But I said this yesterday, like the lions right now are playing like a top five NFC team.
Starting point is 00:34:01 You know, the records are important. It might be prohibitive for them. Like they might not get into the playoffs because of what they've done so far this season. But the last five, six weeks. They're setting the table for something real tasty there. Yeah. And listen, Jared Goff, who said, you know, I'm playing the best ball of my pro career. I think it's great.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I think it's great. Like you talked about a redemption arc. I don't think McVeigh liked him. There was something there. I don't think McVeigh liked him. Like I think McVeigh constantly looked at him like, I can do better. And it was like every day he walked in the building,
Starting point is 00:34:31 he was like, this guy, like I am, I'm brilliant. I'm Sean McVeigh, and he is. But what we also assumed was that Sean McVeigh is the only guy who can get something out of a quarterback like Jared Gough. Just because you are a good offensive coach doesn't mean you're the only one. They're all over the league.
Starting point is 00:34:49 And news flash most quarterbacks are improved by the scheme they're in if they're good, and they're improved by the pieces around them. and they're improved by the coach that they have in the building. I think a lot of times we discount the confidence, the shot in the arm of feeling empowered that a really good coach can give you.
Starting point is 00:35:06 And Ben Johnson, who's probably the most famous Ben Johnson. And we love saying that name here. Didn't take long. Pretty weird for a guy named Ben Johnson. But that guy might be a head coach soon, and a lot of it is because of the work that he's done with Jared Gough. Jared Gough made some really nice throws yesterday. There's an American film actor named Ben Johnson, Francis Benjamin Johnson,
Starting point is 00:35:29 World Champion Rodeo Cowboy. The most famous Ben Johnson is the sprinter that got in the steroid trouble. He won the 100 million dash and like 88, I think. Yeah, is his name Ben Johnson? No, but he's on steroids too. Benjamin Sinclair Johnson. You want to knock the lions out before this game out before we get into the rest of the games? Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Can I say something? Yeah, say it. The Lions have lost to 12-win, Philly, 10-win Minnesota, and 10-win Buffalo. That's 32 total wins by a total of 10 points. Yeah. That's extremely impressive. You know, we looked at the first game of the season as like, okay, a lot of garbage time yardage for the Lions. We looked at it like Miami, hey, Miami, I looked at it like Miami's defense isn't real good, and the Lions' offense is pretty good, whatever.
Starting point is 00:36:18 They couldn't put it together defensively at that point in the season. But since Deadspin, our friends at Deadspin, Kyle. Club dub. Okay. Dick Dick Pick tabloid publication. They also moonlight as like, we're going to try to get coaches fired, like five games in the season. They wrote an article about Dan Campbell since that point read. They've been on fire.
Starting point is 00:36:41 They've been on fire. Five and one. Campbell reads Deadspin. No, but I just think like, you know, you put that on the universe and you attack probably one of the nicest men in the NFL. because you don't like the fact that he said he wanted to bite somebody's knees. And he looks like he might be the type of guy you hate. He's been profiled. He's been profiled.
Starting point is 00:36:59 My man is a he, he, he's a thinking man. He, he, he, he, what? Okay. Yeah, you don't like him. Well, no, no, no, I love him. Yeah, this is good. Really nice, good guy. It's good TV.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Really nice, good guy. Some of the decisions he's making are questionable. Okay. Andy Reed has made questionable decisions his whole career, but it's not what defines his career. Go ahead. What defines his career is ability to lead men, and Dan Campbell can do that. Hey, that's a good point. I just think he makes it tougher on the team by some of these decisions,
Starting point is 00:37:27 going forward on fourth down deep in their own territory, even kicking that field goal, that 49, 50-yard field goal, to go up 11, which went in and sealed the game, but a miss there lets Minnesota right- Had the decision been the wrong one? But the decision prior to that is throw it to our offense. Had the decision been the wrong one? I think the wrong decision worked out for Dan Campbell.
Starting point is 00:37:46 How about that fake punt decision? That was a ball's in the war. That was a big punt. Yeah, but you know what? You'd be... Throw to your tackle. Brian O'Connor. In a game deciding situation.
Starting point is 00:37:55 You know what I mean? There was a point where out of the half, I think Minnesota passed up the opportunity to go for it. They punt on fourth and short, and they give it to Dan Campbell, who makes the wrong decision and runs a fake punt for a bunch of yards and gives his team a shot in the arm. Not a lot of wrong decisions, you get that lucky. So, I mean, like, maybe he's just lucky. He's living right. Yeah. So I, listen, I think James and Williams getting on the field's awesome, even though it's just a busted coverage. Like it's just a heavy play action, baby. It's a, it's a thing of beauty to see him on the field. The first reception he has is a touchdown. Detroit, man. Their offense is rolling. And I wonder, Makin, if you think golf is the answer. I do. Okay. Miller Light mentioned game ball to Jared Gough.
Starting point is 00:38:47 27 to 39, 3.30, and three touchdowns. Yeah, why not? You're gonna have a top five pick, courtesy of who? LA, I record the Rams. Yeah, top five pick, another first. Yeah, I wouldn't go quarterback with either of those picks. Yeah, you know what?
Starting point is 00:39:04 I think sometimes we outthink ourselves, the only thing that worries me is like, hey, the departure of a really good coordinator. Like, you know, people like Josh Allen figure it out within a year. I mean, like he's already, he had a little slump. I don't know if that had anything to do with the transition with Ken Dorsey.
Starting point is 00:39:20 I think I had more to do with just his decision-making. But, like, I worry about, hey, we stick with Jared Gough, Ben leaves, that sort of thing. Other than that, though, you're running one of the best offenses in the league. You traded away a tight end that was supposed to be a centerpiece. You're probably going to parlay that into Michael Mayer or something like that. You know, you have picks. You have capital. You have a great slot guy.
Starting point is 00:39:43 You have a guy that just came off IR, just caught his first pass for a touchdown. You got a good offensive line, good running backs. You got Penae Sewell, who legitimately looks like a big wide receiver. Somebody was like, go watch that play because I had to run in the other room. And I figured it was maybe like a hide tackle over eligible play where you screen out and you bleed him into the flat. Bro, he went in motion. Yeah, it was Trent Williams. It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:40:09 It was amazing. I remember. Bad decision, but it worked out. Yeah, but it's the ultimate faith in your guys. It's like, you want to prove me right? Go prove me right. I'll put you in positions to do this. And there's nothing more of a dream scenario than going emotion as an offensive lineman
Starting point is 00:40:24 and running right through. And Reed and I were talking about this play prior to. It was like, you know, he went and blocked the guy on his way out. Well, I was explaining to him, if he tries to avoid that defender, that's when the stinky line that you were talking about comes out with Stanford Steve. It's like, this line stinks. And what I mean by that is if you're avoiding a defender, you're trying to get open. And if you're trying to block a guy, they're going to try to get off.
Starting point is 00:40:47 So, Bray Soo O'Soole a crafty play there. Big, big. I get it. At first I did, you have me in the first half. I was like, what was you talking about? But then in the second half, it made perfect sense. Yeah, I mean, it was. You're not a gambler.
Starting point is 00:40:58 You're a football player. And you're like, this line stinks. Like there's no real, what is he doing here? Why is he doing this? It just feels, it just felt weird because we've seen plays where we try to get offensive linemen out ahead of the gang. You know, Cincinnati had a big toss to Joe Mixed and the Lail Collins lead block. You could have the same action there with,
Starting point is 00:41:13 with Lail Collins in motion or with Penae Soule in motion but he ends up being the receiver makes a huge catch and that's actually my viewing party I'm going to give my viewing party to the guys on the sideline right there when Penae Sault bought it.
Starting point is 00:41:26 They know he's going to get the ball. Hey what's the play here? They see him get open. Oh my God, he's moving so fucking fast and honestly the only cop I can make is Trent Williams the only guy that moves in space like that. That was unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:41:37 It was freakish. Did you often ask what's the play? Yeah. Yeah, you saw somebody done. try to do it all like what do we got here what we got you know like NBA players after games they're like yeah how you doing dog like I'm like hey what's a part in your mouth yeah yeah but no I I'm not saying they're a great team but when you look at it when we were doing the power rankings like who are the teams that should be ahead of them I can't say the the dolphins after last night
Starting point is 00:42:03 I don't know if I can say the charges for sure they're so inconsistent the lions by virtue of the huge fucking ledge that exists after six or seven now you know a couple weeks ago we had 10 12 teams we were arguing over now things are tightening also receiving votes were uh baltimore miami and baltimore they're without a quarterback so it's hard for me to give them a vote like in the top seven the power they didn't know how to win with a quarterback they don't know how to finish with a quarterback well they got jk davens back i mean that's okay we've talked about that game perfect love it one thing one thing about Detroit they're scoring 32 points a game at home which is a huge number only 18 on the road that's the biggest discrepancy
Starting point is 00:42:43 league. 18 points on the road is good for 25th in the NFL. I would imagine there's something very homely about playing at Ford Field and being in the 70 degree room and when you go on the road, everything changes. Everything changes. It's a strange place to play. Climate control. It's a really tough place to play. And we were talking about what kind of stuff they were going to do. They might as well go get some dominant rushers. Go get an inside rusher. Oh, Kyle, I got to say this. Aidan Hutchinson had his best game yesterday. Yes. Go get another guy. His best game. Go get another guy with Aidan Hutchinson and then make it a feared front like when Sue and Farley and those guys are there, but on the edge. He does a lot of, he's doing a lot of things well. You know how I was like,
Starting point is 00:43:20 oh man, I'm worried he's never going to be like, you know, he's not Von Miller. But what he can do is, hey, they rush him inside. He has a really good feel for when to counterback. He won, he won edge rushes on both sides last night. He's dropped into coverage well. You know, like he's doing a lot of little things well that maybe if you're not watching the game, you might not. see him. The two sacks are great, but there's so many little things he's doing well. He's a really good football player, which I think sometimes gets lost when if a guy's not like a wow guy, he's a really good football player and he's he might have double digits this year. He'll be your defensive rookie of the year. Well, Soss Gardner is the other one and he's kind of been
Starting point is 00:44:01 out, Sauce Gardner's probably going to win defensive rugby either. But, you know, he wasn't even a top three kind of candidate for an award like that early in the season. And now he's kind of played his way into being, hey, I feel good about it. What is he now? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. A little mock draft, Will Anderson to Detroit at 4. I don't like it. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Yeah. They should get that kid from Georgia. Jalen Carter? The big number 88? Yeah. Fucking get him. Just have him pick some guys up. Just get him.
Starting point is 00:44:29 All right, the Vikings, we haven't really talked about the Vikings, but the Vikings left points on the field here. They had the pop pass, the Dalvin Cook, that fumble. And then there was a big Hawkinson drop on the 39. yard line. That would have been three points. So you know, you're talking about 10 points there. But that's the way the cookie crumbles and
Starting point is 00:44:49 they've won a lot of close ball games. This game was close for most of it, but the lions were in control at the same time. So their luck kind of runs out there. Minnesota, they are who we thought they were a top 10 team but fringy power-ranked.
Starting point is 00:45:06 So both of these teams are pretty relatively easy final four games. The Vikings have the Colts, Giants, Packers, Bears, and then the Lions go Jets, Panthers, Bears, Packers. The Vikings need the Lions just to lose one to claim the division. But do you think could the Lions go 4 and 0, the Vikings go 0 and 4 in the Lions take this division?
Starting point is 00:45:30 This seems like a long shot. No, no. There's not going to be an 0-4 in there based on those teams. You said Packers, Giants, Bears. Who else? Packers, Giants, Bears, and, Colts. They could lose any of those games, but they're not going to lose all four. Because time has proved out that they do win a lot of close games, and I respect them for that.
Starting point is 00:45:51 And, you know, a lot of it for them is going to be where are they seated in the playoffs. They're going to get a home game. That place is tough to play. Are they going to have to, Kirk Cousin is going to have to go on the road? Like, if we're getting into looking at who the matchups are going to be, and like, who's going to get to play the bucks? Okay, the Cowboys are team. Let's talk about the Cowboys and the Eagles since we're on the NFC right now. Okay, the way I look at it is these two teams have had respectively sloppy games. The last two weeks, the Eagles and the Cowboys, the Eagles won their game 35-10 or 38-10 or whatever was. Cowboys almost lost in a fucking dog fight with the Texans. And I'm not saying this
Starting point is 00:46:28 alone proves that the Davis-Mills. That the Eagles are better than the Cowboys, but the difference between the Eagles and the Cowboys is that quarterback. And I mean that with no disrespect to Dack because I really like Dack, but Jalen Hertz yesterday in a game where Patrick Mahomes, maybe one of my viewing parties is Patrick Mahomes sitting in the training room with the game on getting his ankle taped or whatever it is. And he's watching Jalen Hertz go ham again. And he's not doing too much. That's the thing about him. He's throwing for 200-something yards, you know, keeping the stat sheet clean on turnover end of things. He's running the football. He's distributing the football, but he's not making mistakes. And that offense is converting on
Starting point is 00:47:05 third down. They're making spectacular plays. They're staying aggressive in that game. And I'm Patrick Holmes. I'm saying, I got to come out in the 4 p.m., I guess, and I got a ball out to be in the driver's seat for this thing. I think Jalen Hertz put himself in the driver's seat for the MVP over the last two weeks. I really do. These have been impressive weeks, and the difference, you know, the way that he plays relative to the way Dak played. Dak yesterday wasn't great, okay? Like, stick into that game for a second.
Starting point is 00:47:34 I mean, he was a little bit off, like early. He missed Gallup for a touchdown. You know, little things like if you're a Cowboys fan, you know what I'm talking about. There's a throat of Pollard where Pollard's streaking in the, you know, in the flat. He's five yards down the field, and he hits him, but he's low. So like it's third and ten, and with Pollard speed, he probably picks up another five yards, and that's the first down.
Starting point is 00:47:53 It's little things like that. It's missing Gallup on the first drive. You know, there were some picks in this game. Obviously the pick at the end of the game. But the game-winning drive for deck to give him credit, a win is a win and they go down and they get that win. They actually got away with a false start if you watch that game. You know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:48:10 I'm first down there in the red zone before they scored it to take the lead and win the game. They get away with a false start. The big question is going to be for Houston. Should they have gone for it, you know, up three late in that game? Are you familiar with this situation? I was wondering what you thought. What do you think? Do you think they should go for that and try to put them away and get up 10?
Starting point is 00:48:30 I think so just because you're 1. I do two. One, 10 and one. But whatever the play ended up being, I wouldn't have gone with that. No, and here's the thing. Hollow man, Jeff Driscoll, running the wrong way on a fucking speed option with the game in line. And a big tip of the cap to DeMarcus Lawrence on third down who makes a big play.
Starting point is 00:48:48 But, you know, Driscoll could not get his big ass in the end zone, so to speak. You know? Kyle, have you seen Jeff Driscoll's ass? Large. Jesus Christ. Can we pull up a picture of Jeff Driscoll's ass? You see I send you a picture of Jimmy G's ass this week? No, I'm not interested.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Well, you're not interested. Look at Jeff Dreskell. That's fake. Wow. Bro, it looks Photoshop. Just back into the answer. The guy, they got. What a dumper.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Yeah, they got to, he's got to take the, you know how everybody sits side by side on the plane? And you could, the armrests, you can, you can, you can pull them up. He's got to sit. You need two seats. Does Driscoll have any relatives? Okay. I mean, I don't know that it goes out so much. It's like back.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Like, he's got like, like, he's sitting on. Let's see for research purposes. There's a YouTube guy who's got a fake butt that he puts on and runs around and does all this funny shit. He's essentially just dressed up like Jeff Driscoll. Okay, we've talked about Jeff Driscoll's ass, his dumper for a minute. Let's talk about the decision to go up 10, dude. I thought that was the right decision. You know, Devil's Advocate, Houston fans, if there are Houston fans that are concerned with winning games right now,
Starting point is 00:49:56 they might say, hey, they had the ball, you know, at the midfield with, you know, under a men to go. and they have a chance to kick the ball. They'd be up one and not down, or they'd be down one, not down four or whatever it was. I think you still try to win that game. Pierce is a fucking load as you went back and watched through that game, man. Like there were times where Vander Esch stood him up, and then there'd be four reinforcements that would come,
Starting point is 00:50:23 and they blow the whistle seven times, and Pierce comes out of the pile. He's still standing up. He, bro, he targeted Hooker. You know the hooker guy for a bro like he I know you want to laugh But he he put his head down and like drilled him in the side of the head like Damian Pierce is dangerous running the football he's gonna be fun for years to come I hope they don't burn him out there and I want to shout out I don't know how to say a crack a well
Starting point is 00:50:50 How do you say that guy's name read for the the Texans he had a huge sack late in the game on deck Prescott he had a forced fumble that seated the pick Okoronquo and that's the thing people don't know these guys Petrie played well he played really well he was hitting he had a huge PbU late in that game so Texans for the second week in a row I know I'm taking up airtime valuable airtime talking about the Texans but they should be commended for how hard that defense is playing what they shouldn't be commended for is this fucking quarterback rotating system yeah keep Davis Mills in just like figure no you maybe
Starting point is 00:51:26 keep Jeff Druskel and he other than the speed option you know a Mari Rogers, that connection, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you put Davis Mills neck with Jeff Driscoll's ass, you can't lose, superhuman. Two quarterbacks. You got two quarterbacks. And that's what Lovie Smith knows. That's why he's playing both of them.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Hey, you know what they say, you got two quarterbacks. Your next one's currently at Alabama. Yeah, probably. Yeah, that's good. But Jeff Driscoll has unlocked something in Amari Rogers. Jeff Driscoll's unlocked something in Amari Rogers. Jeff Driscoll's like Pete Davidson. You know, like, well, I didn't know all the hot.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Hot guys get Kate Beckinsdale. Why couldn't Aaron Rogers make it work? Well, no, Pete Davidson can make it work. Jeff Driscoll's the new Pete Davidson. That doesn't make a lot of sense. Diggs, late in this game, there was an interception on Hail Mary. I just wanted to fill you guys in, and he was fighting for the ball. He was him and his teammates.
Starting point is 00:52:17 It's really not. Twitter afterwards. Where it gets selfish is tweeting. No, the issue is this, because in an offensive meeting, they said, you know, we know the defenders are supposed to knock the ball down in that situation. knock the ball down because if you try to catch it, it could be tipped. We have a guy who's standing in the upback position on every Hail Mary
Starting point is 00:52:36 who's ready for that selfish DV to try to make a play and it tips into their hands. We've seen it a million times on tape. We watch it every Saturday in prep for games before Sundays. And yeah, man, it's just like something doesn't sit right with me about not. The tweet is the tweet and they were probably talking shit. That's my interception. Yeah, I thought maybe it was an incentive thing, Kyle.
Starting point is 00:52:56 But it's not because he's a rookie and you can only get playtime incentives. So at first I was like, well, damn, he needs his money. He just, I'm not saying he's selfish. He's competitive. He's competitive. And sometimes when you're really competitive, it looks selfish, but you're not being selfish. You're just like, everybody's going to evaluate him based on how many picks he has. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:14 You know, it's, they used to evaluate us based on how many sacks we had. I remember I split a sack or I had a sack that James Laroniitis probably easily could have said turned it in and had half of it. And I paid him. Yeah. I was like, don't turn it in, bro. I was like, if you want to take this money. And so he didn't turn it in because, Sacks don't make him money.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Sacks make me money. Interceptions make him money. You know, the only thing that's wrong with that play is that number four for the Texas is standing right there. That's what I'm saying. And that's the thing that you mentioned is, how many times in defensive meetings do we hear
Starting point is 00:53:43 knock it down? Well, you're not in our meetings. You can probably hear it through the fucking wall. Yeah. It's a perfect way to end. We're yelling it too. It's a perfect way to end a shitty game. And I'm sure that's what was being talked about
Starting point is 00:53:53 in the Dallas defensive room. Dan Quinn's like, guys, knock it down. I know you want the interception and everything. Dallas, last thing I'll say, sloppy game Shultz dropped a pass in the end zone Turpin muffed a punt They let Houston go two for one
Starting point is 00:54:06 Had an opportunity to go two for one before the half They were bad down by the goal line one time This was a bad game They need to flush this and move forward But I do think the Eagles are better than them And I think it's evidence by I think it's no question By what they did yesterday
Starting point is 00:54:20 Eagles Brandon Graham had three sacks He's just sipping on the found of youth He is dude and and and and uh and and uh and uh hasan reddick is now in double digits first eagle to have double digits in like 10 years he's got freaky looking sacks kony barwin chris he's got freaky looking sacks every sack he gets it looks like a strange john bones jones knockout kick or like uh you know great looking great looking sack unorthodox and the rushes i mean and the first thousand yard
Starting point is 00:54:50 receiver they've had since jeremy mackland so the eagles have done all this we won a super bowl we did all this without with those things and now they finally have them it's it's kind of like damn they have like real also the first thousand-yard rusher since shady in 2014 as well hey 13 football games how many picks do you think jalen hurts is thrown two three yeah so so so we split we're bad day for punters though you see the australian cell kick you like that you like the so funny to me bro the guy had hair like somebody he looked like somebody that punter looks like somebody who's like on the couch at grandma's boy. Yes.
Starting point is 00:55:26 And then he just like runs out there. They wake him up to smoke the joint. Yeah, they're like punt the ball. And he's like, I only know Australian rules football. I'm just gonna, I don't know that he dropped that. I think he had like a, because he used to do rugby, right? And he's Scottish for the record. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Scottish hammer. It'd be like going to Scotland and just, oh, I flubbed up. I did an American custom. He's had a rough few weeks. Yeah. It's been a bad time. We don't need to talk about that game much more. The Eagles are fucking good.
Starting point is 00:55:54 the Giants, the mask is coming off. And I said earlier this year, like the Giants are maybe the new Titans, bad week for the Titans. All the Titans is. I'll tell you how good the Eagles are. They're averaging 4.87 yards of carry. The defense is allowing 4.8 yards of pass. And here's a big one.
Starting point is 00:56:11 4 yards rushing than allowing passing. And that's an amazing stat. The Giants came back in this game and were within striking distance to make this like a one-score game late. It was like there was a time when the live line jumped to 21 and a half. half. Okay? And then the Giants closed it to win like 13 or something,
Starting point is 00:56:28 had the ball and the Eagles pulled away again. And I think that's really hard. Like in a football game, you can feel that tide coming to stem the tide and then flood it again, bro. Like, you know, like for giants, it was just like they were melting in front of our very eyes.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Now that's kind of what they showed earlier in the season, right? They had the all season. They've had the amazing second quarter, but they're, you know, weeks three through eight. They allowed teams to kind of get,
Starting point is 00:56:54 within striking distance. It would end a seven or ten within seven or ten. And then the last couple of weeks, we were, you know, we were like, that's something they'll need to improve on into the playoffs than they have. And one more thing real quick on Dallas is that Terrence Steele got hurt.
Starting point is 00:57:12 And JP had to go in and play right tackle for a while. And that's not really his thing. Like when he was in Philly. First time I tackle since 2005. I never played him at right tackle in Philly. And he just wasn't there a lot. and he's played guard a little bit for them. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Terrence Steele is a big part of their run game. Not the JP can't move bodies. Tony Pollard, did you see that jump cut? I know y'all didn't see the game, but that jump cut was incredible. This guy is, I mean, he gets the edge so fast. They've got two identities with those two backs. I like one more than the other.
Starting point is 00:57:45 But they have two identities, and sometimes you need to throw body blows before you can get the knockout punch in. And I've never been in a fight, so I couldn't tell you that. but I will say that it's two different schemes. And as a blocker, when you've got a guy like Pollard versus a guy like Elliot,
Starting point is 00:58:00 your blocking style, the plays change. You know, it's two different games you're playing inside. Okay, last, go ahead. The three NFC playoff matchups, first weekend right now. Giants and commies are glad that Seattle lost. It would be giants at Vikings, commanders at Niners, Cowboys at Buccaneers. What a shady first.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Yeah, okay. Look out Vikings. Vikings. Yeah, look out cowboys. The bucks are terrible, but look out cowboys. I just feel like that's a lookout cowboys for some reason. Yeah, that would be so Dallas. I would be so Dallas. You know, anyways, the last NFC team, we talked about real quick before, I want to mention the Bills game before we get in one words, but Tampa Bay, San Francisco. And it's all about Brock Purdy, man. Yeah. It's all about Brock Purdy, man. Like, so athletic and creative. Like, he looked, he, some guys look like they're a deer in the headlights under pressure,
Starting point is 00:58:52 particularly early in their career quarterback, but Brock Brady goes out there and he looks like he's been practicing against the first... The number one defense. It looks like he's been practicing against the Niners' defense this whole career. Well, there's a couple things here. First off, isn't it amazing, and this is a testament to how hard it is to evaluate quarterbacks?
Starting point is 00:59:10 You draft Trey Lance. Like, you give up... Ironically, this is the offense. You don't need a quarterback. And he'll do, right? But you give up a million picks to go get one. He's not really the guy. Like, we're not sure.
Starting point is 00:59:22 It didn't look like the guy. And then you draft Brock Purdy literally last in the draft. And this kid looks like fucking Joe Montana at times out there. And it's just, and he's been on your roster all year long. When Trey Lance got hurt, there wasn't a single talk about Brock Purdy. Nobody talked about Brock Purdy. You know, usually you'll hear something from in the building. If they knew he was this good, they'd have played him.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Yeah. But you just don't know. And that's the thing about like between the white lines, you just don't know what's going to happen. And last week I thought He played like he was a guest at somebody's house Right like he was like making sure everything was in order Like I don't want to break anything Like you know like I'm gonna turn the bathroom fan on
Starting point is 01:00:04 You know spritz are the smell good The towel back folded perfectly This week he was like feet up This is my fucking house man He just took he was taking shots He was that throw to To Christian McCaffrey off his back foot was swaggy Kyle A lot of it was swagger
Starting point is 01:00:21 wagging. I mean, even the celebrations, you can see how much this team loves him. Every time he scores, they just hand him the football. They're like, take it back. And he can run. And he can run, Kyle. He can run. He's athletic. And, you know, I'm guilty of not watching him at Iowa State, but I should have watched him at Iowa State because he is a monster. These guys are so dangerous. And I'm thinking we talked about Jared Goff playing himself into not being in question for next year. Like, Brock Purdy, dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:49 I've seen it a game and a half. He's got an opportunity. I'm pretty much sold. He's got an opportunity here down the stretch. But, like, we could, they could figure some things out about this kid. He might be playing well, huh? Nick Mullins. People really like Nick Mullins there for.
Starting point is 01:01:02 I don't know. This feels like the stakes in these two games, you know, that was a big Dolphins game, right? And he had no time to get ready. And then this week, you know, that's a very good defense. And right off the bat, Neil, the first play of the game, like, it was like, Neil was like, I'm going to hurt this kid. Like, hey, I got a free run at this kid. who else is playing quarterback for San Francisco today?
Starting point is 01:01:22 And he just, he took a big, deep breath, got up, and, you know, continued to be aggressive. The throw he made evading Shoyinka, am I saying his name right? I'm going to, because he's a good player. Shoyanka. JTS. That's what I'm going to call him. JTS. He's evading JTS, and he beats Debo on that boot.
Starting point is 01:01:42 You know the boot play I'm talking about? He turns to fire and JTS is in his face and he evades him and he's off one leg to to Debo, you're just like, wow. Like, these are good throws. The touchdown deep in the red zone, I mean, you did throw the ball into triple coverage up 21-0, but he responded the very next play was the shot to Ayuk with a face full of somebody.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Pumps right before he gets hit, throws the ball to I-Euk. Like, this guy's exciting. Now, the Debo Samuel injury is scary, but he's not out for the season. So, you know, you can get him back. This team is, they just beat the doors off this Bucks team. who's not good, but this is the NFL. They've outscored the 49ers have now scored the Bucks
Starting point is 01:02:26 and the Dolphins 68 to 24. So a quick hollow man real quick. Tom Brady for, you know, obviously the game and everything, but he bought 150 tickets at that stadium. It's a homecoming of sorts, right? Bless you, Kyle. I was a little choked up. Bless you.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Where's from? Tom Brady. He's from there. 150 tickets. Like one out of every 450 people in that stadium was a Tom Brady family member. And that's the performance. Then after the game, Dre Greenlaw. Sign this for me.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Is like, can you sign this intercepted football? I want to talk about that. Yeah. What do you think about that? Is it a code break? I think it depends on how I would have sent it to him in the locker room. Yes. But I know Dre's not thinking about that.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Dre's just like, fuck, Tom Brady, man. Like I picked them off. This is cool. The compliment is in the action, but it doesn't feel like a compliment after, you know, people aren't picking off Sam Darnold like, hey. They could be soon, though. Yeah, pretty soon. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:31 It happened with the Jets too last year. Hey, grandkids, let me cut on this old film of a football game in 2022 where I picked off the greatest quarterback. No, I think it's great. But what I'm saying is how you solicit the autograph. I know. I just don't want, I don't want his autograph on the ball. You don't want it.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's my ball. Oh, I do. It was here. I do. It's cool. It's cool. Drake Greenlaw's had a couple good weeks, too, by the way. Really cool thing about footballs that, you know, like souvenirs that you get.
Starting point is 01:03:57 First off, did you know that they rub it down with Delaware River Mud? That's what they use. That's interesting. First off, Phil Sims told me that yesterday. And the other thing is you wouldn't need Tom Brady to sign it. You wouldn't need Tom Brady to sign it because each team has their insignia on each ball. So if I'm on the Niners and I pick off a Buccaneers quarterback, it'll be a Buccaneers football that I have.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Yeah, but think about what this is going for on eBay, Tom Brady, autograph football. You're right. And another thing is Tom Brady has done everything with class this year. Somebody tell me something he's done that was, I mean, all the yelling. All the yelling.
Starting point is 01:04:34 No, he was even nice to the, like, yesterday, the way he slammed that surface was like, fuck. You know, like back in New England, it was like, fuck! And now it's like, fuck. Because he knows, it's like, it's over, dude.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Like, not his career, but we're on. The honeymoon phase in Tampa Bay is over. We're on in New England. I mean, dissolved his marriage. What about the kids? What are you saying? He's being classy?
Starting point is 01:04:56 Classy. You're on Giselle's side? Okay. I'm thinking about the kids. Flip this around. Yeah, flip this around. I'm married to a U.S. Women's National Player.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Okay. U.S. Women's National Team Player. Say Carly Lloyd's husband says, unless you retire from the thing that you love, I'm divorcing you. How would that go over? Player. Riddle me that.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Who's fault is that? Tom's just been yelling at everybody, man. That's not an answer. Tom Brady's- I couldn't really follow the analogy. I need a second quote. What is it? I couldn't follow the analogy.
Starting point is 01:05:30 What analogy? The Carly Lloyd thing. I'm saying like everybody's on Tom, how is he the villain for continuing to work? Yeah, you know, just try to work it out, you know? Okay. So Tom Brady's been all class.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Uh... Well, what? Well, okay, then what about the yelling? All the yelling. Guys, a yeller. Old yeller. That's what they call. That's a good year.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Legitimately old, old yeller. Guys, Bill survived. They survived. And, you know, like, I have that as the headline, but the headline to me is Mike White. Like, you know, hey, the bills beat a team that they were supposed to beat. They were favored by 10 points. They got a backup quarterback, right? That defense played great.
Starting point is 01:06:15 They absolutely peppered Mike White. I mean, he was in Buddy Lee mode. He just kept getting up. It was incredible. Leslie Frazier was pressing all the buttons in the elevator for like, you know, sending guys at Mike White. Yes. Without Von Miller, you don't, you don't just press the first floor like you usually do.
Starting point is 01:06:31 It's like, oh, let's go two through 19. Let's get exotic. But also I think the D-line, Shaq Lawson, Rousseau, they took it personal. Like, you know, and I don't mean that sometimes you hear all week, hey, it's this guy. It's just this guy. And, you know, hey, Von Miller's out. What are we going to do now? They're not even going to be able to hit the quarterback.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Like, they fucking tattooed this cat. Joe Flacco came in. He fumbled the ball. But Mike White, when he kept getting up, I just kept thinking to myself, boy, I hope this works out because he is perfect for Jets fans. It was the classic boxing movie where the main character keeps getting knocked onto the fucking. That's what it was. I was looking for a boxing movie.
Starting point is 01:07:15 You're like, it's a boxing movie, right? Cinderella, man. It's like how many times you get to get this fucking ass kick. Something like that. And people, he just gets up and the guys are like, see, Mike White? Yes. You know, the prophecy is true. But honestly, but honestly, like I worried about his health.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Yes. He left in the second quarter after the, uh, after getting broken in half. Matt Malano. Yep. He came back two plays later. Then he was hitting the ribs again in the third quarter and he left for X-rays. Returned at the start of the fourth quarter to finish the game. Immediately after the game, he was taken to the hospital for, um,
Starting point is 01:07:47 for evaluation for internal injuries. He was past all that and then flew home with the team. Tough as shit. Mike White, really tough. I believe it. I believe it. And also, like, I know they've had trouble scoring, and that's the whole point. But watch the throws, man.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Like, he came back in and made some throws, like, and he was bleeding internally. So imagine if they have a run game, a little bit, you know, BAM's been great. But, you know, they're in the third, fourth, running back this year. Brees Hall was on the field and the whole thing like Garrett Wilson's playing great. You know, they, the Quinn and Williams injuries
Starting point is 01:08:26 look like a calf, I guess. Calf sucks. Cuffs are the worst. I had a calf for like a year and a half. Would you rather have a calf or a turf toe? Calf. Turf toe.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Can't do anything. Can't do anything. What about a back? You have a back every day. I got a back. I've had a back since I've got it back. You just take BC powder before JV basketball game. I'm the king of having backs.
Starting point is 01:08:49 I remember BC powder. Yeah. Sketchy looking substance. Yeah, I'd be at the water fountain just like B.C. powder down the gullet. I play a little tennis yesterday. Got back today. You got it back today? Fuck, man.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Didn't stretch. We're all day to day. The truth is we're all day today. But Ed Oliver just killed him and Matt Milano killed him. Is a physical mismatch, Chris, for, you know, if you've never had to block anybody, when they're that load of the ground and they move that well laterally and also they can Bull Rush? Like it's one thing if you're playing a guy who attacks edges, but Ed Oliver
Starting point is 01:09:21 sets up the edges with the bull rush down the middle. It's like blocking a odd job for you. It's like, I remember Gino Atkins was a guy that I used to play against from the Bengals, and he was a phenomenal rusher. He did it in the run game as well, but at rusher, he would threaten you with his density, and then he would attack edges with his quickness. Ed Oliver has that sudden
Starting point is 01:09:37 twitch. And he's a shorter guy. Yeah. So, I mean, like, Mosley, yeah, Mosley damn near, like, this was big. They were in this game of zero zero. We were headed to the first half in a few years that there was
Starting point is 01:09:53 no scoring in the half it was going to be zero zero. And the bills were the best end of half teams from a scoring perspective. They opened the door for them with that Mosley off-sides where he jumps over the center and tries to blow up a sneak or whatever it was. It was not a sneak. Not going to be snapped.
Starting point is 01:10:08 The one thing, I want you to weigh in here. 20 to 9, Sala Alex on 4th and 1 in low red, kick. Well, yeah. I like, I like, what was the red?
Starting point is 01:10:21 It was the red. It was like the 15-yard line. It was pink. My problem with the red is I caught, because in the NFL, in NFL circles, we start the high red, like a little higher than fans do.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Oh, you're right. You're right. It's 95. Nine-yard line. So that's a low red. So they're in the low red. And it's 29. And the question is,
Starting point is 01:10:42 because you're going to need to touch on a field goal, you have timeouts. Are you, kicking here and foregoing the opportunity because you're afraid of the chance of getting stuff and then the game's over? Or are you thinking, as I would, hey, let's score while we're down here.
Starting point is 01:10:59 We're going to be playing for a field goal if we get the ball back. Score while you can. That's what I was. Score while you can because you never know what the next drive is going to hold for you. You're saying kick. Oh, I'm going for it. No, I'm going for it because when you have an opportunity and you're the lesser opponent, you've got to take the points when you can.
Starting point is 01:11:14 You have to. Yeah, me and you couldn't be on the same. I'd be with Dan Campbell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'd be with Bill Belichick. That's the way I think said himself honestly. Yeah. Well, and then they go, they force Buffalo into a three-in-out, so they get the ball back.
Starting point is 01:11:30 That's great. And what they do, they ran out of time. Four-play, zero yards. I mean, four-play zero yards. But think about this. Your offense functions better if you know you got to get 25 yards. You know, like, hey, we got to put together two, three shots, you know, to get to midfield, and then we can try to kick a field goal, like one more out.
Starting point is 01:11:47 I just don't like having to drive the whole field when you haven't scored touchdowns all day. Here's where I'm with you. It was fourth and one from the nine. That's what I mean. That's baked into the question. Yeah. So it changes things for you now. You know,
Starting point is 01:11:57 the, well, I was watching live. I'm a big, I'm a big football. But fourth and one. That offensive line was getting tattoos the whole day, though. I mean,
Starting point is 01:12:06 you can't. Fourth and three, I agree with you. Maybe fourth and four I agree with you. Even a long two is tough. Along two. But when you're in that situation, you've got to go.
Starting point is 01:12:12 You had just gone third and one and then complete pass to Berrios. I'm an exact. in the game guy. Okay. I was curious what you would think. I know the headset guy. Yeah. Okay. Next week, Detroit at New York Jets. Who do you think's favorite? Detroit. I think
Starting point is 01:12:29 probably the Jets under a field goal. Under a field goal. Yeah. Lions don't play well on the road. Right. And I think the Jets will win. By one. Jets by a point in a half. I guess that's by one. Yeah. I think lions. Lions win the game. We just, let's make the lines, dude. Lions win the game. I also think there's going to be a lot of action on Lions.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Yeah. I think that's where the money's going to be. That's where my money is. My money might be on a JETS, Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets. Could be a pick-em-by-S Sunday. I hope they tie, bro. I don't want either of these teams out of the playoffs. You know, I'm not an athlete anymore per se.
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Starting point is 01:16:23 There was enjoyment. Kansas City and Denver, what I saw was concern. I'm concerned a little bit for Patrick Mahomes and Kansas City. Yeah, they put up a ton of points against a really good defense in the first half, but you watched the way that game ended, and Denver was able to scratch and claw their way back into it in a large part because of three interceptions. First interception.
Starting point is 01:16:46 He leaked it, left a little bit, probably shouldn't have thrown the ball. There was a Travis Kelsey intended target that got interception that was in front of him. Kelsey could have sat down in the zone behind it. That's usually not an issue they have. Kelsey usually sits now where he's supposed to, and Pat puts it on him. The other was to Sky Moore. Another one where Sky Moore kept running through the zone, he's got to sit down a little bit. It's not as much concern for Patrick Mahomes, but the synergy that we're feeling there.
Starting point is 01:17:14 I give a tremendous amount of credit to the offensive line. Andy Hex Group showed up in the second half and took care of business. Pacheco ran the ball well the whole game. And the screen game. That should be the word screen game because Andy Reed, one thing that he really loves coaching and he stands up during the meeting to coach this portion of the offense, it's the screens. And you look at the way they're able to get out of trouble when they need six to seven yards.
Starting point is 01:17:40 They can go to Jerich McKinnon, who had a huge day over 100 yards over like 140, something like. that. Those are explosive plays, their screen game, and they run them very well. And the other game that I was watching was the Cleveland Cincinnati game outside the numbers. That is my phrase. That's a good word. One phrase. Because Joe Burrow to Jamar Chase outside the numbers, it's 31 flavors of that. How can we get number one the football when the chips were down from a roster standpoint? You look at T. Higgins out, boyed out, but Jamar Chase is still in. You still got a shot. the offensive line also another group that took over the game in the second half with the running game loved to see that from Cincinnati my god that defense played with their fucking hair on fire
Starting point is 01:18:22 Sam Hubbard was great with Rush Lane integrity keeping Deshawn under under control when he was trying to run he was he was stacking the tackles as opposed to trying to win to one side giving to Sean and out saw that the whole day DJ Reader huge Mike Hilton big Jesse Bates big plays time and time again. But really the identity of this team is they play very hard and physical on defense, and they can throw to Jamar Chase at any given fucking time. Credit to those guys. You know, Kyle, that was a good job.
Starting point is 01:18:56 The Deshawn Watson stuff, and by the stuff, I mean, he's not very good at football right now. He looked better than last week. He got better. It was a tale of two halves with Deshawn Watson. You got to be more confident. He looked to be more confident. If you're a Browns fan, if you're a Browns fan,
Starting point is 01:19:13 why? But if you are still a Browns fan, you've got to hope this is Rust. Yeah, we kind of hit Baltimore, Pittsburgh. I mean, hey, listen. Ugh, it's right. My word is bad, as in Mitch Trubisky is bad, respectfully. That was awful. I mean, he was awful.
Starting point is 01:19:33 I thought, hey, I thought when the backup comes, and then we're supposed to be on our P's and Q's. That's what I thought, too. And they moved the ball pretty well with him. in the game, but then they didn't. Yeah, then they didn't. Hey, hey, what was he? What was he?
Starting point is 01:19:47 What was he? What was he? 22 of 30, but when you account for the three picks, 25 of 30, the ball's not hitting the ground with Mr. Not a lot. Yeah. So that's not so bad. Running clock.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Running clock. It's good for viewing experience. Listen, the game sucked. Oh, it sucked. Okay. You know, those games used to be more fun. Like you were like, oh, yeah, Baltimore and Pittsburgh. They're going to kill each other in prime time.
Starting point is 01:20:09 I'm out here. It's going to be a lot of fun. Now it's kind of like, oh, they're going to not score a lot, you know? So, DJ Watts, like, I got to deal with three tight ends and running back, chipping every fucking play. The game's no fun to play in. So Seahawks Panthers, we've kind of hit that. I mean, you know, a big win for the Panthers. And Sam Darnold actually played pretty well. It's fun to watch him. And we had an interesting viewing of that game. So this is, this is my thing. I don't know if you guys, well, Reed and Matt were with me. I don't know if you watched this game. Yeah, I did. I watched the game and I was like, at first it came on,
Starting point is 01:20:41 I was like, I don't know if I like. Within five minutes, I had it as my Bevel Conway. Dude. Yes, it's my Bevel Conway. Cool color. Sneaky. Because it's like the first in 10 graphic matches the teal on the Panthers. The Panthers uniforms could be so much better.
Starting point is 01:20:58 Yeah. Seahawks uniforms, in my opinion, can sometimes be better. But the gray scale that just the whole field was gray. The sky's gray. The field's gray. The field turf looks like concrete. It's fucking, it's the teal, it's the, it's the classic one that I was like, man, I don't, you remember in the office when they were talking about Hillary Swank? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:18 All of us, the TV show, yeah. Yeah. That's what the office of TV show. That's what you had to go back through your database, but they were like trying to decide if Hillary Swank was hot. Hillary Swank is hot. This field is hot. And a good fighter. This, yeah, well, until she wasn't.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Until she's not. But thankfully that was just fictional character, Kyle. She's still with us. You know I smoked a damn strain called Million Dollar Baby? And there was a moment where I was like, oh, I get it now. I die now. No, I just stare at the, I stare at Clint Eastwood or whoever. It's you comatose.
Starting point is 01:21:54 Yeah, basically. I was like, damn, this kind of a fucked up name of a strain. But anyways, this is the classic. It's like in the office where they're trying to decide if Hillary Swank's Hot, like it took me four minutes to decide that this field was beautiful to look at. It was like the riptide rush version of a football game. It was like a major league lacrosse matchup. No, it was like the alternate color way of like it was like all the cool blues and the little shades of gray.
Starting point is 01:22:21 It was like all those gatorades. The Arctic, the Arctic series of Gatories. Yeah, it was beautiful. What blue do we call the Carolina Panthers blue? Ciel. No, it's not Carolina Blue. It's the Carolina's blue though. I know.
Starting point is 01:22:35 Yeah, it's teal. Is it teal? I think it's a lot of it. actually literally called Carolina Blue, but I'm with you. It's not Carolina. It's not Carolina blue. Carolina blue. Isn't that teal? Bro, I'm just telling you what, I'm telling you what reality is. You guys are thinking about coastal Carolina, the Shanta Clears. They have teal. So do the Panthers is literally the same, it's the same color blue. Look at that. All I'm saying is, the, the black, white, silver, whatever this blue is, is making up for is making a bad uniform.
Starting point is 01:23:00 The, the helmet stripes that diverge are awful. The shoulder stripes are bad. The small numbers on the shoulder are bad. But it works because of the colors. Yeah. Did you guys create uniforms? That's why I was a Panthers. When you guys played Madden, do you create your own uniforms? I got to create our own uniforms for our AAU baseball team, bro.
Starting point is 01:23:16 The hilltoppers. Yeah, and guess what color they were? Carolina blue. They were teal or Carolina blue. They were more Carolina blue. I'm sticking to my guns here. Do you see what brought up when I said teal though? I don't, and I say this so respectful.
Starting point is 01:23:28 No, no. I mean, like, I can't feel, I do know what teal is. Coastal Carolina. Yeah, I think, yeah, I agree with you. Okay, yeah, Coastal Carolina is more that color. But they're not Carolina blue. See, like, that's more... Carolina is powder blue.
Starting point is 01:23:41 Right. Carolina is... No, that's... You're thinking about Tar Heel blue. Oh, Jesus Christ. Why don't you guys go work for Benjamin Moore? You're right. I just, I really don't know what that color is.
Starting point is 01:23:53 It's like... I know who Benjamin Moore is. But it's not Carolina blue. Correct. Okay, Gre. Kyle, yeah, he's over there, tripping. Fuck off. The both he is.
Starting point is 01:24:01 Did you... Are you looking? I mean, that's a... I don't have a... to look. I look inwardly when I think about it. Well, why don't you look inwardly and give us some mentions here, guys? Oh, I got some mentions here. I got them written out right here
Starting point is 01:24:13 on this Carolina white piece of paper. One word for Seahawks Panthers. Sure, playoffs. Playoffs! Panthers got home Steelers, home lions at Bucks as Saints. That's doable. They're going to win these games. You guys are big look ahead guys. Miller Light mentions, yeah, love just reciting the schedule. I hate looking ahead. That's why I don't plan. People kill so much time looking ahead
Starting point is 01:24:31 in this business. So I've got a worst flight, best flight. Should we read the schedule. Yeah, go ahead. All right. So my worst flight is anything leaving the state of California? It's bad.
Starting point is 01:24:41 Fucking sucked. Yeah. Dolphins. Tom Brady. Yeah. It's all trash. Oh, you forgot my worst flight here. The Raiders.
Starting point is 01:24:51 Trash. That flight might be short, but that is hell on earth leaving that stadium after Baker Mayfield goes 98 yards. Anything leaving California this week? He's been in the building for 36 hours. 36 hours.
Starting point is 01:25:04 36 hours blacked out, went out and just blacked out. My best flight is Carolina back from Seattle. It's got to be, right? You're starting to... It's a long one. It's a long one. It's starting to garner some respect, though. But you know the feeling of being on a plane after a huge win.
Starting point is 01:25:19 It's a time castle. You're froze a wrinkle in time. You're up there, and it's honestly like a core memory for me. Some of the big wins, we didn't have a lot of them, but big wins, long flights, particularly coming from the West Coast. It feels really good, man, to celebrate with your team. It does feel good. And to get there and it's like this moment isn't going to last forever.
Starting point is 01:25:38 Drinking O'Dules. Watching it on the iPad. Playing board games. Six guys in the aisle leaned over one seat watching on the iPad. That's what I remember. Non-alcoholic beer. There's a 13-year stretch for Virginia football where there were four happy plane rides in 13 years. Incredible.
Starting point is 01:25:55 Yeah. Won other games, but they were bus rides. And you had to deal with those. Yeah. But to Kyle's point, you do remember the happy ones. Yeah, you remember the happy ones, bro. I'll say best plane ride, Jags. It's a team that I know Doug's having fun.
Starting point is 01:26:09 Doug's a big, like, walk back to the back of the plane, lean on your chair and be like, how are we doing, guys? And like in a good way, not annoying. And we made fun of Trevor Lawrence. We gave them the worst flight a couple, like, a couple months ago early in the season. And I said, what is Goldilocks doing? But Goldilocks, he's coming around.
Starting point is 01:26:23 He's flying, he was flying Spirit Airlines, and now he's on. He might be flying the damn plane. Emirates. Got a little fucking bad. Go ahead. My best is Kansas City. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:36 Short flight. Short. You only go down. Only go down. He loves that. Tied for first place. Tied for first place in the AFC with Buffalo, right? It's too late.
Starting point is 01:26:47 The alternative would have been a three-way tie with Sincere and Baltimore at 9 and 4. At Houston's next, because of this little scare from the Broncos, you probably won't underestimate Houston, especially what they did in Dallas, followed by two games in a row at home. My worst is going to be Tampa Bay as well. You can still fire the coach, yeah. You're in first place in the division. You need something. It's not going to come from personnel unless you do something on the sidelines.
Starting point is 01:27:14 Fire the coach in first place. I think the coach is bad. Is that unprecedented? Firing a coach in first place? In December, probably. It's like what the Bears did to Lovie Smith. You get six days till Hanukkah. It gets kind of insensitive to fire people
Starting point is 01:27:31 during the holidays, do it right now. I do it today. You're going to do it. Right before they start burning that candle. There's a lot of candles, Kyle. One candle, eight days. I think there are eight candles. There's eight candles, Kyle.
Starting point is 01:27:45 That's a good question. Is it one candle or is it eight candles on one candle holder? It's eight candles, yes. The real miracle is that the candle lasted eight days. I know that. You know, they make fun of Christianity because they're like, you guys have a superhero as your leader. Yeah, we got a candle.
Starting point is 01:28:02 We got candles. Yeah. Well, Todd Bowles has the job for another. Eight days. Well, no. I actually think the menorah has nine candles.
Starting point is 01:28:12 I think there's one in the middle. So I'm talking about the one middle. It's nine. Yeah, you're thinking about the middle candle. The big candle. So I would fire the middle candle, Todd Bowles,
Starting point is 01:28:20 and promote one of the exterior candles. It would give more oxygen to the smaller candles. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly right. Yeah. I like this. Tom Braddell's.
Starting point is 01:28:31 Tom Braddle. Tom Braddle. Tom Bradle He's spinning He's spitting right now His head spitting Yeah Tom Bradle
Starting point is 01:28:39 Bradle No you got only got a couple I love lochkas Since we're here Yeah I love lockas I don't imagine The Schwartz brothers make a mean
Starting point is 01:28:48 Latka Yes What have I just show up to their house For Hanukkah And I'm like Guys guys I'm here I want to see what it's all about You got to welcome me
Starting point is 01:28:57 And shit like that Okay we've been on Hanukkah Wow I respect any religion. They're like, we're not doing a holiday one day. We're going to stress this bad boy out, multiple presents. Yeah. All right, fly on the wall.
Starting point is 01:29:10 Fly on the wall. I got to fly on the wall. Sure. I would love, because, you know, now that Brock Purdy's been in for a week and a half with the Niners, I would have loved to have been a passenger seat in his truck or car, whatever. When he got in, you know, after the game last night, he gets in his car, and he can finally take a deep breath. cameras on him. Nobody's hounding him.
Starting point is 01:29:33 Who's the, you know, what's his first call? What's that like? Does he call his buddy? Did you just fucking see that? That's my fly on the wall. I'd love to be hanging out of Brock Purdy after the come down. I would go to see Chris in St. Louis. Sorry. No, no, no. They always won. They always, they really did. They really did. But, but, but we rode home
Starting point is 01:29:52 one game and the, we would just put the windows down and there was born in the USA cranking. Was there? Yeah. And driving pretty fast. And it was just fun. Yeah. A little Victory Monday. There's nothing like a victory line.
Starting point is 01:30:06 There's nothing like a Budweiser, big Budweiser sign downtown. Yeah. Whether you're in a car or a plane. It's like. And then you said, we're going to go to a place called Pepper. Pepper Lounge. Yeah. Every time.
Starting point is 01:30:16 Yep. I hope Brock Purdy has a Pepper Lounge. Hey, I'll, I'll join you to a degree. Flying the Wall, getting Baker up to speed in in 48 hours. I really want to know if the terminology. is legitimately that difficult, or if it's like, hey, this is what you call it there, this is what we call it here.
Starting point is 01:30:37 That's exactly what it is. Say whatever the hell you want. You would say, this route, do you see it on the board? What did you guys call that? Right. Well, this is what we call it. Or, yeah, we call it the same thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:47 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because then they go to hurry up offense to go spike the ball and their center and the quarterback, they don't even know the snap count to get it out. And the center's got to turn around and tell them. So it's like, that stuff gets gloss. over during the week. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:01 But the concepts are there. Fly on the wall. And it's the same offensive line language that he had in Cleveland, so that made the transition. He knows how the blitzes are getting picked up. I'd love to know what Dan Campbell's thinking about Jergolf. I'd love to know that.
Starting point is 01:31:14 They know exactly what they want to do there. Yeah. They want to know what they want to do there. They know. Dan knows. Let me give you one more. The conversation, because in the post game, it sounded like you didn't like it,
Starting point is 01:31:26 the conversation about giving Baker the number 17, 17 because there are a lot of single digit numbers available in LA, including number six. And somebody gave him grief about 17. He was like, yeah, I'm going to have to talk to somebody about this. Who, McVeigh did? No, no, no. Baker was like, I don't like, I don't like 17. Well, it doesn't look good.
Starting point is 01:31:44 Can't look good. That's just not a good uniform on Baker, but there's a question. Can you change it? Can't change it. Want to know. Too late. No. Yeah, you got to stick with it.
Starting point is 01:31:53 Yeah, stick with 17. Next year, you could, if you're back, you could do that. I mean, they're not going to do anything. Nobody would probably notice if he slips under six. I wonder if Baker's going to be there next year. Well, you got a month to prove it. It's not like they scored a lot of points. It was the Raiders.
Starting point is 01:32:07 It's true. I don't like he hasn't might throw to either. What's next? Anything else? Hold on. Other Bevel Conways from those of you that haven't been there. Yeah, I have a Bevel Conway. Mine's going to be the Tampa Bay and San Francisco game
Starting point is 01:32:21 because there's different shades of red, 50 shades of red. I'm getting down with that San Francisco uniform. It's taking you while. Took me a while. The pewter is terrible, though. I'm growing up, I think. Peter's awful. One of the worst colors.
Starting point is 01:32:34 I'm going, you gave yours. Yeah, Panther C. Hills. I'm going to Army Black Knights. Now, the, are we calling it splatter or spatter? Blood is spatter, but pain is splatter. Speckled? Yeah, splatter. Spattered.
Starting point is 01:32:50 So that's a risk. Not spangled. That's a risk. It's, that's a risk. That's risky. You're what I'm saying? You're the words? Smelling what I'm stepping in.
Starting point is 01:33:01 Everything else was beautiful, especially the number five. Those are the prettiest numbers I've ever seen. I was on fanatics looking at Army gear after that game. I bet on a helmet at, NASA helmet. No, I got an Army helmet for the studio. Army helmet. It's got the big, it's got a black night with a,
Starting point is 01:33:19 with a fucking, he's jousting. There's a big horse. Sick. On the helmet. It's like airbrush. We'll have it here in the studio. It looks like a UC. Yeah, but like if UCF was on the juice.
Starting point is 01:33:32 Hey guys, you all can't get this because I'm going to get it. And I know you know I'm not a big USA guy, but I'm going to wear like this sweatshirt. That's a beautiful sweatshirt. Look at it in black. Look at that. That's a beautiful sweatshirt. Do you know that? Are you trying to get thank you for your services at BOTOS?
Starting point is 01:33:48 No, not really. Are you going to cut the America off that? There's no A. Remember they got mad at the soccer coach who was like the subject of a Fox News article because He said that Nike had a line that said the states. Right. Guy hated America. I'm just going to take the little dots out of that in the U.S.
Starting point is 01:34:06 And I'm just going to say us. Because I'm a big us guy. No question. Not a me. Yes, you are. I'm an us. Yeah, I'm a we. Yep.
Starting point is 01:34:14 So Macon gave his game ball to Jared Gough, who you guys got? I'm going to give my game ball to Evan Ingram. And read, what were the stats there for Evan Ingram? Because he went off. 11-162, two touchdowns. and 42, sorry, 47 yards over expected. He hates Evan Ingram. Kyle's looking at me like, how could you?
Starting point is 01:34:36 Evan Ingram, he's, you know, he's found his forever home, Trevor Lawrence. Forever home. He's awesome. However many yards you just said, that's probably more than he's received in his entire career. God can't catch a cold, but he had a great game,
Starting point is 01:34:50 great game, game ball. I'll give it to Justin Herbert, boring chalky, but that really was like a, This was a take machine. This is, like, there was so much pressure on him last night to perform. He knows he's better. But everybody's hurt. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:09 You're the chargers. People are telling you you got the wrong coach. Just wait until they bring your guy in. He played, he played great. Yeah. He played great. St. Louis Memorial Frank Gore Award, bawling in obscurity. Jerry Judy.
Starting point is 01:35:21 There go cowboy, eight for 73 and three tuddies. Three tuddies. And we won't mention the interaction he had with the referee. You know, the ref knew he was at fault. That's why there wasn't an ejection. I want to give it to the Petri guy, or Petri guy down there in Houston. That guy was all over the damn place. I'm going to give my St. Louis Memorial Award to DJ Reeder in the middle of that Cincinnati Bengals defense.
Starting point is 01:35:44 Good game, DJ. Sweet. And Macon, you're right, 162 is by far the most receiving yards Evan Ingram. His third career 100-yard receiving game. Yeah, I was trying to say, like, more than what he had combined. I was just trying to be mean and hyperbolic. Look, Evan Ingram has that in him.
Starting point is 01:36:06 He could be excellent. He just wasn't in New York. I hope he continues to be in Jacksonville. And by continue, I mean this game and moving forward. There wasn't anything before this game either. Gentlemen? That was good. Start your engines.

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