Green Light with Chris Long - NFL WK17 Recap! Brady & Rodgers Return to Form, Giants Clinch Playoffs & NFL Playoff Picture

Episode Date: January 3, 2023

(19:00) - Recap of Chris' epic Thursday Night Time Machine comeback (25:05) - The guys give their America's Teams. (47:11) - Major Tuddy reaction, Blow the Hunger Games whistle for a couple more teams -- Raiders and Jets (1:18:00) - AFC Playoff Picture: Patriots Beat Dolphins, Jaguars Blow Out Texans, Steelers Come Back vs Ravens & Chiefs & Chargers Hold On, Tampa bay Secures NFC South Division with Comeback Win vs Carolina, Aaron Rodgers & Green Bay Gain Steam with Blowout Win vs Minnesota & NFC Playoff Picture Heading into WK18. (1:38:00) - Miller Lite Mentions! Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b   Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42   Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1   Green Light with Chris Long:   Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. https://www.greenlightpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And in Michigan, 1-800-2707-1-17. Tennessee, y'all 2. 1-8009-9-7-89. So it's about 1030. we finished recording about an hour ago and as we were wrapping up we found out about the Damar Hamlin situation in Sinci and fuck

I really don't know what to say this is like you know sometimes something hard happens and you talk about it and you kind of if it's possible to put it it this way you do a good job of summing up your feelings and people say hey thanks for finding the right words or whatever it is but like i really don't know what to say i'll give it a shot um we have a pack pod coming up with all the playoffs scenarios and all the uh the rundown from what happened week 17 of the NFL season but all that feels pretty insignificant right now and it

probably is going to feel pretty insignificant to listen to the pot i after this. I pray that at this point, you know, although we haven't heard anything about Damar Hamlin in what seems like seven hours, but it's been an hour since he's been at the hospital, I guess, at Buffalo. I'm not going to speculate on what happened to him. Obviously, we know it wasn't a head injury. We think it's a chest injury, but anything beyond that's kind of speculation. I pray that by the time you guys hear this podcast that he's okay. But I also know as a guy who played the game and every time I see somebody down on the

field getting put on a backboard or being immobilized or putting a neck brace on, getting into an ambulance, I've seen it happen a number of times. the thought goes through my head like somebody's going to die one day playing this game and um i hope it's not tonight i really do but that seems like kind of a real possibility when you hear that somebody's without a pulse or with a pulse but not breathing on their own uh on the the ambulance ride over to the uh the hospital and demar hamlin um was joined by his family on the way to the uh the hospital and I couldn't help but think about my parents and you know like what they would be going through in that situation like obviously you think from the perspective of the player I I played a position where these

enormous collisions didn't happen as much but we ran to the ball too and I've been hit pretty hard and I've hit people hard and you know it's a high stakes fucking game out there like we are competing and not just our livelihoods, but our lives could possibly be in danger. In the immediacy, not down the line. We already know football can kill you quicker than if you didn't play. But in the moment to hear that somebody was receiving CPR on the field, like totally unprecedented for me.

and I you know even as somebody like who played the game and is trying to put myself in the situation that some of these players were in on the field like the prospect of playing or not playing like when you see somebody's chest getting pumped it's one of the most like you don't forget it you know anybody that's seen somebody getting CPR who looked like they needed it and that's pretty much anybody who's getting CPR. Like, you know it's life or death on a level. Anybody that's seen that, it's really hard to go back to whatever you were doing.

Now imagine you've got to go back to playing football. You know, I heard somebody say, like, hey, the safest place for this, something like this to happen would be on a football field. There's so many team doctors, there's so many trainers, there's medical personnel. They have all the equipment. but the irony of that statement is that this is pretty much the only place that I feel like this happens.

I'm not going to, no matter what the outcome is for DeMar are going to be one of these people that says, like, football should not be played. This is a game that we take a tremendous risk to play. I took the risk. Guys are going to keep taking the risk. the fact that this is unprecedented or doesn't happen a lot or it never happens doesn't soften the blow I don't know the kid he's 24 years old

but I am definitely thinking about him and his family right now and I just try to imagine you know I talked to my parents just a little bit ago my mom used to fucking get on a red eye to come watch me play in St. Louis every Sunday after going to my brother's game and just on Saturday nights and just having to and then to watch me and my brother play for a long time in the NFL

just being a parent of somebody who's playing a high high injury rate high collision sport it's fucking crazy and then the worst nightmare is riding with your son who's not breathing on his own to the hospital it's just unfathomable to me so thinking about the family of Damar Hamlin. I'm thinking about Damar Hamlin,

and I'm going to go home now. I've been sitting in the studio, just hoping to hear some so we could wrap this up. But more than anything, I've just been frozen, you know, like most people, I think we've just been sitting around watching ESPN's coverage of this.

ESPN, I think, has done a really nice job of keeping the ball in the air at a time when everybody's staring at the TV, like, what do we do now? Obviously, what we do now is we worry about football later, but I thought that Booger Lisa Salters, Adam Schaefter,

Susie Colber, Scott Van Pelt, Ryan Clark, like everybody I saw on TV did a really nice job, Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, of just trying to, I don't know what the objective is, and I think that's why I was empathetic

to the people that were trying to call the game or talk about the game because we don't even know what, what's the move here. you know, just throwing some replays, talk about the injury, talking circles about the injury and how terrible it is. At some point, there's not a lot you can say.

So I thought that just to be able to steer us out of this thing, and they're still talking about it now, you know, I feel for the people that were on the broadcast, I feel for the players, man, seeing Stefan Diggs crying, seeing Trudevius White crying, seeing Josh Allen with his hands clasped over his face, those are very real feelings that we sometimes feel as football players, but I have never seen a teammate getting his chest pumped on the field.

And as I said before, I can only imagine having to think about going back to playing football. I'm not going to be one of these people that's going to dissect what the NFL should have done, this, that, and third. Like, I don't have the energy for it, just hoping this kid's okay. And I think, like, if there's anything you take from this is like, human life is so important. I mean, it is so important. Sometimes we go about our day and we argue about a bunch of shit

and we cheer about the football game and this is all anybody could think about today was like this big Monday night game. We are obsessed with football right now, but look how quickly everybody was willing to grind that to a screeching halt because somebody's life's in danger. And I think sometimes we should remind ourselves

of the value of human life and just how important each person is that's on this football field. You know, Ryan Clark was saying it earlier. People should remember this when a guy's hurt and we trivialize it or we talk, you know, gratuitously bad about somebody who's out there on the field. Like, guys are out there risking their fucking lives for your entertainment and they are paid handsomely and they should be because this is the most dangerous sport.

in this is the most dangerous professional sport in in in in America I somewhere they're doing a boxing's really dangerous too right okay so boxing but the the most dangerous popular sport in America we're going to get get in trouble with some boxing fans but this is a really dangerous game and so when guys are out there just realize that this is what could happen some variation of this hoping to more is okay And just the value of human life is so apparent, you know, every fan across the NFL, no matter who was playing in that game, was Pittsburgh, Baltimore, San Francisco, Vegas,

like, you know, whatever, San Francisco, L.A., like, as bad as a rival, it could be fucking Ohio State, Michigan. If a player is getting CPR on the field and leaves an ambulance, everybody stops what they're doing. I don't mean to give people a cookie for having some humanity, but it is a reminder that we do have it in us. and I think everybody's really hurt watching this. I hope, you know, we remember this feeling because it's way bigger than sports. So praying for DeMar.

All right, here goes nothing. It's a fun pod. We had a good time. There's a lot of crazy situations right now from a playoff standpoint and plenty to talk about. So if you do want to get your mind off of what happened last night or you just want to continue to talk, you know hear us talk ball

enjoy the pod good old fashion layup line guys take these broken wings and learn to fly again learn to live so free you know the words making I'd love to back you up I was just dancing to it

I don't actually know the words Mr. Mr. Broken is the song called Broken Wings Oh it's right here in front of Broken Wings Yeah The Grand The Thought of my city And when We hear the voices sing

The Book of Love will open up and let us in. Yeah, yeah. Nice. Yeah, so the, Mr. Mr. So Poe is back.

So they, they mended his broken wings. And I'm going to make that the layup line in a good old-fashioned layup line. Good for you. Because Poe, they brought him out. No,

I didn't. But thankfully, I thought you were alluding to the Jets. Uh-huh. I thought you were alluding to the Jets. Wow. No, no, no. Their wings are broken.

That's brutal. Their wings are broken, for sure. I thought you were talking about your bird from the Bahamas. No, no, no, no, no, They're midnight up in the news. I just kept getting delayed and delayed.

You were talking about my plane in New York. Wow. Your plane got delayed? My plane, I took my plane on time. We did laugh. We did circles around New York and then they took us to Dulles. Oh. And then you had to sit in Dulles for a while?

Yeah, for two hours. And then I got a car and I drove. Let me go. Yeah. Let me off the plane. I got home at midnight. I got to New York where I had work in the morning and I arrived at what I thought was my hotel, but it was three blocks away from my hotel.

hotel and it's New Year's Eve in Times Square area which as you can imagine was a nightmare and I got to have a car like it was a zombie movie people are all running in one direction towards a giant light down that way somewhere yeah which I knew to be the ball and I typed in my thing on on the map and there's there's blockades and there's police everywhere police horses I had to show there was I didn't see any horses I would have been a lot happier if I did yeah but I've got something to say that I ended up getting to my hotel uh which was good so so yeah. Times Square can make you feel pretty. Go ahead. Yeah. So I have a page open on my notes out for the pod, and I haven't wanted to get to this for a long time. There needs to be a professional sports franchise

with a nickname the Horses. And then when you're winning, you're about to win, you can say, nay, nay, nay, nay, nay, nay, nay, nay, nay, nay, nay. Goodbye. Not bad, I? That is what you had to say next. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you're talking with the horses in Times Square.

That makes sense. Yeah. There were horses on the beach in the Bahamas as well. Oh, cool. Wild ones? That's a dynamite segue into my Bahamas trip. Yeah, no, they were domesticated. A bunch of little kids.

A bunch of little kids were riding them. Yeah, no, I'm back from the Bahamas. It is Monday night. I apologize about the Tuesday morning drop, but, you know, it wasn't going to be the same without the fellas in the room together. So I appreciate the dudes working the graveyard shift here. Wouldn't miss it. Yeah, well.

That it is. We are dead men. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, I thought you didn't like those jokes. You don't like that. Did you have any calics?

I had a couple calic lights. Colics are good. Man, I got obliterated at this place called Daddy Joe's yesterday, like during the daytime. I don't know if you guys as you get older become more day drinkers. Like, I'll get hammered during the day. And then like I'm hung over by 10 p.m. And ready to go to sleep.

Like, that's my new move. yeah um but yeah i uh found the only sports bar in the bahamas had one tv people were talking this place up like it was fucking damans damans yeah it was a local joke were you but there was i was like have any tvs i man i was i had all my stuff packed i was ready to go because of course at the hotel um which if it were the white lotus uh and kyle you you started to watch white lotus yeah i saw a lot so you know the the guy in season one that uh he's really tough on the staff you know the kind of fucking dorky guys with uh yeah the dario yeah orky guy i'm like the opposite of that guy i will let you fuck up my trip and i am too afraid to

like impose my will on the staff this hotel was like an iphone with a virus you know when you need an an update and your iphone's just acting all fucking crazy i like like the lights were turning on in the middle of the night there were no lights the first couple night they had to bring in lamps wow for me and my family yeah i mean it's first word first world problems here but We made the most of it. We were in Exuma. It was really nice. And I missed you guys, but I couldn't watch any of the fucking game Saturday night.

I had to fucking just refresh the score app to see the college football. See what was happening with college football. Evidently two pretty good ball games. Oh, they were awesome. Yeah. And then Sunday I was supposed to go to the sports bar. And the locals were talking this place up. Like I said, it was like it was Damon's.

And there was just one TV in there. The guy just gave me the remote. I was controlling the direct TV. I was ordering drinks. Oh, well, DirecTV at least. Yeah, at least direct TV. Well, no, they didn't have a Sunday ticket, naturally. And the place didn't open until fucking two, which makes no sense.

Any self-respecting sports bar. I feel like the Bahamas is close enough to the United States to probably have a place that... Yeah, like, don't they're tourists like NFL? Yeah, right. You would think. Absolutely. Yeah, you would think. So I'm back.

I am happy to be back and my computer's not working. Go ahead. You know a layup line. Where I... This is it. Kenny Logging. Sorry, make. Just because?

Just because tonight is the deciding game in the long family fantasy football league. Oh, we would turn down to the people to hear you talk. You're just talking over 10. No, it's kind of, you know, it's a 26 point necessity between T. Higgins and Josh Allen. I need it tonight. You'll get it. You only 26. And you got those two?

Yeah, you're good. Oh. Who are you going to beat? I'm going to be. Did you hear me say beat? Beat. Who are you going to beat? You're not getting ready to play Mario Kart.

Champion. Who are you playing, bro? I don't know. Oh, you don't know. Just somebody in the family. It's somebody whose name is not. Speaking of somebody in the family, my dad had the audacity to mention me talking about jacking off on the pot. He was like, yeah, that's a little tough for me.

Oh, yeah? And I was like, yeah, how did you think I felt when you were killing guys in Broken Arrow? It's the same thing. I'm just, I'm playing a part. Is your killing sperm? No. what I'm saying is it's just not it's not the real me it's not the real me just like that that guy driving around in the car with John Travolta wasn't you the Terry Hatcher

years weren't easy on you guys wasn't easy on me y'all y'all had to go to school after that yeah guy wants to talk about joke about spanking it as if I would but the guy joking about spanking it and it's you know I've let go of a face palm of embarrassing my my family my friends yeah professional relationships but I still think about big Howie from time to time when I say things honestly if you think about like who your your pod conscious is yeah because everybody has like a pod conscience that does podcast and like who's i think about like i think about like i think mine's howie long yeah howie long a lot you wayne gretsky you think about white grretsky he's not listening he's not listening um okay also a day drinker so the first thing before we get in america's teams here we

can we get this out of the way yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm gonna try to be real for one of the first on the show okay would you like to start well I was I was very fortunate Thursday night time machine which was at one point I'm like Mike Tomlin honestly I'm the Mike Tomlin of this thing if I you know minus the minus the streak of consistency I've never won Thursday night time machine in this and this shows short history I know it feels longer in a short history short history and so I owed last year and I was about to lose this year was down seven to two. The penalty of course is Waffle House 24 hours.

And I'm thinking here I'm gonna be going to the Waffle House for 48 hours in January. And my only hope down seven to five Thursday was hitting the score right on the head. 2713 Cowboys was my play. Makin went 2413 and it was incredible. I actually was able to watch the game on my wife phone and I gotta tell you that was one of the best moments of my

2022 watching that thing I was giddy I was I was just giggling like a fucking child moving around in my bed kicking my legs and shit like I'd been on the airplane too long and Meg was just laying there like what's going on honey yeah um so up seven to two I stopped trying that's okay that well that's that's for serious okay I I stopped checking to see if the count was right in the dock. So did I, dude. Honestly, I thought I was out of it, to be fair. So we might want

to do a little forensic accounting of the entire effort. You want to recount? You're questioning the validity of this. Are we America accounting my friend here? I'm congratulating my friend. It was epic. As I texted you My flight path getting home. A

sick-sick-o part of me. I didn't want it to happen. I didn't want to end that way. I wanted it to get to 2713 and then end in a heartbreak. Yeah, you wanted me to get my heartbroken. For you. Hey, we're not going to be the first people to ever do Waffle House challenge, clearly.

Probably not the first to ever do it together. Really? You don't think two people have ever done it together? I can guarantee you nobody has gone in with more fear. Oh yeah. You should be afraid. It is not fucking, it's not a joke. And think of any synonym of fear that comes.

your brain dread i mean my wife and i are talking about getting uh overnight help for the kids like we're talking about maybe sending them off to a hotel yeah like this is going to be bad it's not just the 24 in there it's the 24 leading up it's probably going to be the 72 afterward it's all awful but congratulations to you thank you fuck my grable ass um had three time out so he left on the Damn one. It was the coolest. Oh my God, everything. It was just, it was amazing.

And you know what the best part about this? We're going to both go to the Waffle House for up to 24 hours. I have the choice to like eat 10, 12 waffles and leave you there for the last six to eight hours. Well, buddy, as do I. Do you think you're going to eat waffles? I sometimes I have this vision where I could just like stack six. It doesn't work. I promise you, bro.

I know, I know. But I'm just saying like I have visions. my back five six waffles in the first five or six and this is for me we're like hey clock work did you and number seven was like 10 or 13 waffles i did 12 i think or 13 13 waffles and 11 hours yeah something like that got up out of there came home and walked in the driveway for like an hour and a half until i had to shit and i'm i might have to make a request of like time of start what they do in japan too you know after big meals they'll just go for a walk Eastern

Everywhere Except for here I think anywhere But America people are like This is good for the judge Have a cigarette And a walk This is my version of living in Tokyo

We go have a good sit here in America Man we are going to have a great time Is all I'm saying And we're going to do something Do we have to do a 24 hour waffle house? Yeah well it's a live stream The entire thing Longest sports podcast in history

24 hours got to be My A My uh What's the over? under Matt start working on the over under for waffles that Megan's going to eat my uh my my seven and a half seven and a half wow I'm taking the other word got to my uh my parents oh yeah before I could tell yeah yeah yeah made for uh that's going to be fun lovely all right conversation should we go to america's teams yeah yeah yeah and one hot tip for all the dudes out

there on family vacations the zen kept me alive uh during my trip down to the behind I packed a whole log of Zen. But when you look at your family photos, if you have a Zen in your upper lip or maybe two sixes, you kind of look like you have filler in your upper lip. You start looking like one of these 40-somethings that plastic their face up a little bit. Can I show you something real quick?

Dane Cook. Try not to laugh. You didn't think about it? No, I didn't think about it. Look at this. You look at. like an idiot man. How stupid I look.

I'm like, we're on a fucking sandbar. It's the perfect family photo. I'm the one taking the picture. You didn't look at yourself? Well, no. It's too bright out. Look at this.

Hey, Matt, look at my face, bro. I look so stupid. It's ridiculous. I don't even want to share the picture. People are just going to have to wonder what we're laughing. You should go the other way and just like use it

as your header photo. Oh, no. I could not. It looks like I have lip filler in. So yeah, dudes on vacation and was Zen. If you got to take a family photo, pop that thing out. Okay. America's teams. Who wants to lead off? I'll let y'all lead off. I'll lead off. Okay. Cowher. America's teams. The backup quarterback. Mm. Well, that's good, Carl. You know,

Brock Purdy, Mr. Irrelevant, third string, highest QBR since becoming a starter. Blaine Gabbert and his brother, they saw a helicopter crash, well, they heard one while they were on jet skis. And if you hear a helicopter crash while you're on jet skis, that speaks to the significance of the volume. How many capes we given him? I don't know, but I'm not done yet. Jared Stidham, hey, pipe down for just a second.

You just drive your jet ski over. I wish a helicopter crash would happen here. You get 20 seconds. Jared Stidham. We'll get back to this. Look better than decent. Jared Stidham. Mike White turned into a pumpkin.

Cooper Rush. He put the Cowboys in this position. Yes, he did. Yeah, he did. Tom Brady was a backup. Aaron Rogers was a backup, Kenny Pickett. The second one would be the Green Bay Packers. Everybody loves to hate Aaron Rogers.

Everybody loves to hate the Packers because they always seem to be around. They're like Freddie Kruger. You can't run fast enough away from Freddie Kruger because they will catch you. NFC North can't run fast enough away from... Number three, the cops. There's dip on my finger.

The cops on New Year's Eve. You smell like high school right now. The cops on New Year's Eve. Well, I took a shower, so it might be Old Spice. Yeah. You have a bath bomb? The cops on New Year's Eve in Times Square, of which there were many. And they all seemed to be about 15 years old.

And they all had weapons. No horses. Were they suspicious of you? They were all 15 years old? Yeah. It's a good question, Matt, because I was walking to the hotel. Chris, I was walking to the hotel with a bag and a hoodie and a beanie on. And I was like the only person that was not partying in Times Square.

Oh, this is definitely the guy who's going to do something bad. They were like, hey, sketchball, where are you going? You know? They asked you a lot. No, but I was staring at the ground. You were projecting. You know who'd make a great cop? Can I tell you who'd make a great cop?

I know you want to get on with the America's teams, but John Harbaugh. Yeah. He just has a, like, a cop face. CIAs. One of the, one of the, maybe the good ones that do community policing has been in the same place for a long time. I think you just slap a white hat with a black brim on there and a fucking badge. I could see that. Yeah.

He would be a good. be good cop for sure john harbaugh also going to be an NFL coach next year potentially uh wheels bad cop mike brayble he's thinking the gym harbill he's thinking the fuck out of your car jim harbaw yeah he said yeah i'm thinking i think john harbos bad cop oh no's yeah well jrb you think john john harbos you think john harbill what kind of offseason program he runs in baltimore kyle and are you inferring that jim harbill would be a good cop yes he has sleepovers no chance Just taking everybody's children. John Harbaugh goes to Baldhead Island.

Jim Harbaugh goes on. You guys get to take care of these kids? I'm a cop and I run a fucking foster home. And thanks for clarifying because I thought he was talking about. Jim wouldn't deescalate, you know, taking those timeouts. No, Jim's fun. Hey, what the fuck's going on over there? I'm not wasting my time with you, Goose.

NFL coaches is cops. Number four. Got ourselves a segment. Number four, wheels up because there's a lot of wheels up agreements being made right now. by eliminated players and their wives because plans are being made. Oh, Wheels Up, yeah. Well, don't use Wheels Up. Or do.

Or, you know, give us a deal. Maybe we can have some kind of code we can get. Well, we're not a Wheels Up podcast. Yeah, we're Wheels Down. Number five, the Patriots. Period. It's patriotic. Speaking of Wheels Up, there was a guy from MSNBC or CNN

that was complaining about kids on airplanes this week. Yeah, he was saying no kids. in first class. Making you seem like a no kids in first class guy. Not as a now parent. Okay. Whatever you need to do. I tweeted that at one time.

We got a lot of flag for it, but now I support. Damn, you used to be that guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Well, I can admit it. Well, redemption is a beautiful thing. I didn't have kids. Okay, so you're through the America's teams now?

I'm through it. Okay, Mike. Okay, hailing from New Orleans, Louisiana. The four-lane rolling green wave. How about it? Bro, can we put that joke in the rafters. How about it, huh?

People were, uh, people were, uh, people were, were, were, lauding you, but asking you to put it in the rafters. Were they really? Yeah, they were kind of doing a big bend thing. Like, just, hey, one more, like, take your victory lap, but like, let's, all I was seeing was the lauding. No, no, there were a couple people that were like, can we, can we hang it in the rafters down in a good way?

Okay. Yeah. Oh, okay. Like, it's just time. I was so excited that I tweeted six lane. Did you really? I mean, it's not every day. You win the line.

I didn't watch the game. Cotton Bowl? Cotton Bowl. Cotton bowl. It was a cotton ball. 46, 45 over SC. They needed, let me just tell you something about it. Sure.

4530 Trojans with four minutes to go. A big chunker. You score 4537, down eight, extend the game as long as possible. Kickoff goes to the one, and my guy calls for a fair catch, which you can do. You can do, and then it goes out to the 25. But he bibles it out of bounds. No, safety. No, balls down at the one.

Next play. Okay, I thought he was out of the back. Yeah. First and 10 from the one. Safety. Oh, wow. 4539. Get the ball back.

Come down, score with a few seconds left on a juggled catch. So people were probably complaining about them going for two and then they got two. I don't. Not going for two on the first touchdown. Maybe, but it was the right call. You got to prolong the ball game. Willie Fritz. Two lane goes to 12 and two or something like that.

Awesome. Awesome game. Congratulations the Green Wave. New York Giants. New York Giants are going. going to the playoffs for the first time in a long time. You might remember the boat scandal of the Odell. I remember the boat scandal era. Is that 2016? Yeah, the last time the Giants made the playoffs. Yeah. And speaking of backup quarterbacks, Terad is probably going to put

the Dallas Cowboys in that one seed next week when he takes the reins to play the the Philippa Delphia Eagles. Is it a certainty that Daniel's not going to play? Not a certain. but the Giants are locked into the 6th. Let's talk about this right now. Okay. They're locked in. It's a bye week. I know, but that's not, that's not what they did in the field last week.

The Super Bowl year, 2011, whatever, or seven. It was the year that the Pats were undefeated and they played them tough week 17. They played their guys. Of course, that was Tom Coughlin. Now, if you're, if you're the, the Giants. Speaking of Tom. Lynn. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, that's good. We're going to talk about Mike Tom one. Did you get it? I coughed. I had a coughed. Got it, got it, got to, got it, got it. That's good. Okay, we'll keep that in the show for sure.

Yeah. So I kind of wonder, you know, are they kind of like going to try to stick it to the Eagles? I mean, would you rather have to travel to see the Cowboys? I mean, you have to travel to see both of them. Would you rather put the Eagles who beat the dog shit out of you the first time they played? would you rather play them tough, stay sharp, and possibly ruin their January? Nah.

I mean, what if somebody gets hurt? Yeah, no, it's a big what if that a lot of coaches are going to have to ask themselves this weekend. The Giants don't have a ton of studs, God forbid somebody got hurt and what amounts to a meaningless game for New York. And that's what Brian Dable said today that we'll do what's best for our team.

We're not going to worry about anybody else. We're doing what's best for us. What's best for a lot of these coaches think what's best for the team is, go throw these guys out and get the rep. That would surprise me. To have a buy week this late and not show Philly anything either, because Philly would be most likely the round two matchup

if they got five in Minnesota. I asked Bill Cowher this exact question this weekend, and Bill Cowher was adamant about the fact that he was like, are you kidding me? He was like, Jerome Bettis, I'm going to rest him. Well, Jerome Bettis had to get an ice type every morning. He was like, there are a lot of players like that that aren't as well known as Jerome Bettis

that make up a roster that are important. And if you want to rest him, you're going to get them healthy, do it. If Jalen Hurts' place, he could be a little rusty. And Bill Cowers is old school as it gets. There's no guarantee that game looks anything like the game, even if they rest some guys. There's no guarantee it looks like the first game.

My third America's team is Cleveland Brown. Cleveland Browns went into LeBron's team. Hyattesville, Landover, Rauljean, Maryland, and beat the commanders and a must-win game. And I'm sure we'll talk about this later, but tough optics for Riverboat Ron. seemingly not knowing if they were potentially eliminated

if the Packers got the Vikings. All the matters is winning. You would be surprised how many coaches. Trotted Carson out there and lost is a thing. That's a judgment call that he can be called on because it's a terrible decision and Carson is a sitting duck back there and threw a lot of ducks out there.

I think it just more illustrates the fact that a lot of coaches, their heads are up their asses on what needs to happen outside of them controlling their own destinies. And that plays out if you've been on a team that's talking about going to the playoffs and I'm not absolving Ron Rivera because it's a bad look. But like, you know, when you're getting ready for the playoffs,

coaches are so tunnel vision and they almost like overset that example. You know, it's going to be interesting this weekend. There's a lot of, hey, don't watch that game. Like we'll talk about the Lions in a little bit. Don't watch that Seahawks game or are you watching the Seahawks game? Different ways you can go about it.

Chargers. Number four, they get to 10 and 6. I was a dummy and thought that the Rams were going to keep putting up points and trying hard with McVeigh and Baker, and they did. But the Chargers just overmatched them. Austin Echler is a beast. Echler 122 on the ground. Mike Williams, 7 for 94 in the air.

It was an impressive performance. They're clicking a little bit. They're clicking a little bit, and it's nice to see. They're getting healthy. Slater might be coming back. Not good for Kansas City to see. Kansas City might. F, see them the second round.

Later might be coming back in the playoffs. Yeah, and sorry, Bosa as well. Bosa's back. Huge. Yeah, and I didn't know that on Wednesday. I don't think that would have been the difference. Maybe not. I just don't think the Rams were ready to play.

I'm going to round out America's teams with Tulane for the first time in America's team's history. The same team will be mentioned twice as we hang the joke into the rafters. Tulane now officially expanding to four-lane universe. That's good. That's good. Okay, so I have TCU here. Yeah. An omission from y'all.

I figured we'd be all tripled up there. But they, yeah. And in my list throughout the year, you might recall. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you put them there. But, I mean, like, now's the time. I mean, they sent, to be quite frank, nobody gives a fuck about TCU. Really? Evidently a lot of people care about TCU.

Duggan. I mean, hey, TCU is catching 14 points or whatever it is, 13 points in the Natty. That was an amazing game. Yeah, I heard. Low-key bevel. Yeah, low-key. It's in the conversation. I don't know if Jim, if this affects Jim, you know, making a decision on what he wants to do in the future.

But now Jim Harbaugh is talking about maybe taking the Carolina job, maybe the Denver job. Indianapolis. Indianapolis as well. So, yeah, like all of a sudden, Jim Harbaugh is going to be coaching the NFL again. It seems pretty apparent. that's going to happen because you know last off season he interviewed uh where where was it uh at minnesota yeah and they didn't offer uh he said i'm not yeah yeah i'm not yeah i'm gonna go the NFL anymore but that this i mean if you look at carolina we've talked about it

carolina teams in that division indy you know yeah they're behind the eight ball a little bit because of some of the things they've done um but denver's the interesting one do you think a jim harbaugh would take a look at at russell wilson and what would that offense look like because Greg Roman, actually who might get fired in Baltimore, was his guy in San Francisco, not that they could run the exact same offense with Russ and everything. But anyways, TCU, America's team. Did you, by the way, I know you had some television issues. Did you see the touchdown that was called back from Michigan?

Have you seen the clips of that? Holy Toledo. I'll show you here at some point. Maybe we can pull it up. Pull it up, yeah. Now, it was early in a game that saw 100 frickin' points. Yeah, yeah. You can say that it didn't have that much of the fact.

There you go. It was incredible. So you'll see it here. It's a 14-3 game. This is a sudden change. He catches it. Yep. And it's clearly a touchdown.

He bounces up from his little pop in the middle of the end zone. Now what they're going to say is he was down right before the goal line, which I watched it two dozen times. He's clearly over the-the-all. So what happens here? They get the ball at the two-foot line and fumble. No. TCU recovers. Goodness gracious.

It's just way less exciting on the phone. Goes up 21-3, I believe. Score app just didn't do it justice. I can't wait to watch the best from that game play at the highest level. Okay. Well said. Who did the Cowboys play this weekend? Who did they or do that?

Who did they play? The Cowboys. They played the Titans on Thursday. They played the Titans. That's why I had them in my America's teams. There you go. Dallas Cowboys, America's team. Thanks for hitting it on the head.

And I'm sorry, people who don't get the segment yet. I'm not saying I like the Cowboys. just one of America's teams right now for your boy. I have the Detroit Lions, man. The Detroit Lions this weekend with a chance to break this playoff throughout. I know people want Aaron Rogers in the playoffs. But I have this insatiable desire to see good things happen to Dan Campbell and the Lions.

Is this Chris or Chris or Chase saying that? This is Chris. I'm not necessarily going to bet the game, but four and a half looks kind of enticing. Oh, no, Chris. Okay. And there's zero chance those guys on the Lions don't know what happened in the Seattle game. They're going to know. And that's the whole thing.

And then it's going to be on Dan to sell them on. We'll talk about what he might say in a little bit. But they're going to know what the hell is happening. I've got the Ravens Medical Team for bringing back Poe. And we need them to bring back Lamar for the sake of having the Ravens in the fucking playoffs. They're such an unwatchable brand of football without Lamar Jackson. Get him back out on the field. But he was supposedly limping around a little bit on the sideline.

It's not a good sign. As opposed to Debo Samuel, who's bouncing through the fucking tunnel with a big boombox. Well, Trump Williams, I think, had the boombox. But he looked pretty good walking through the tunnel. He looked ready to play. High ankle sprain and an MCL. Guy's superhuman. As a father of a daughter, I would like to commend the Baltimore Ravens and their medical staff

for being the first franchise to trot out a female trainer there. She's been there damn near 15 years. Really? I'll pull up a picture. You'll recognize her. Yeah. I don't see gender. Really?

Yeah. That's why I didn't see it. It's a joke. Obviously, I see gender. I want more female employees in the NFL. Megan McLaugh. I want them on the field. No, no.

I'll find her. You can keep going. I'll find her. Okay. This woman is a saint. Last one. Might be a shitty trainer, though. A lot of injured players.

I don't know. Well, I don't know. Easy. They're one of America's teams. I mean, the mascot got hurt. Their injuries are down this year. Okay. I'll have you know.

Last year they had the fucking injury report was the world tour. Remember, they had like a t-shirt. You could put all the injuries from last year on like a t-shirt. I don't think she's a, yeah, exactly. I don't think she's a trainer either. I think she's a doctor. That's like that riddle, you know? Okay.

The surgeon is a woman. Okay, yeah. I forgot about that, that riddle. Hey, I got another riddle for you. Okay, sure. we're doing riddles? Yeah, sure. My daughter has lived in three years and she's one year old. How does that work? Take your time, think about it a little bit. Well, 20203 affects that. Sure does. Well, it depends on when you consider life beginning. You only have to be 12 months

in a second to theoretically exist in three different years if you were born at the right time. Let's move on. So have you answered it? Did you answer it though? Yeah, yeah, it's good. We're good. Like 13 months could cover three years. What is the question? Do you comprehend that? So the answer, I'll answer the riddle. The answer to the riddle is that she was born in January, 2021. Got it.

She's one year old right now, but she's seen three calendar years. Calenders are so interesting. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Hey, you know, I'm a big resolution, clean slate guy. Yeah. But in reality, the only thing that's fresh is the calendar, not me. That's right.

I'm the same old tire guy. Holy shit. I said this like five days ago. No, no, no. I'm still a big resolution. Yeah, got it. Big resolution. All right.

Well, here's America's team number five so we can get on with it. This is the Pigs of Pig Island. There's an island in the Bahamas where these pigs, they live. They live like the most wonderful life. If I want to come back as anything

being a pig on Pig Island. Like influencers want to take pictures with you. Well, yeah. Like you and bikinis rolling up all the time. That's what I met by influencer. They just,

they feed. They're like gluttonous because they got to give them food on a stick anytime they want these pigs to get close to people. There's big pigs. There was this like fucking

five, hundred pounder. It looked like he cleaned up for Hannibal Lecter. And then there's a bunch of little pigs. There's babies. People are picking up the babies against their wills. Of course, they're all squealing.

But we got to roll up on the beach. We got to meet the pigs. Here's the kicker, though. These fucking pigs eat hot dogs. Oh, wow. Are you kidding me? All beef hot dogs? Yeah.

Or? I think they're probably all beef hot dogs. I hope. I was like, are you kidding me? But they're on a stick. I eat chicken hot dogs. And I'm just wondering, like,

do they know but the pigs man I love the pigs the pigs the pigs we had a magical afternoon our boat captain a white Bahamian guy named you say white yeah he's a white guy

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I've got a friend with the name, one letter off. Yeah. Oh yeah, that's cool. Hey, do you all recognize Dr. Leanne Curl here? Shout out to Dr. Curl. This is who I'm talking about. Dr. Curl.

She's always on the field with the rights. She didn't see her because I don't see gender, but now I know exactly what you're talking about. Her name translates to not all the way standing biceps. What? Leanne. Leanne Curl. Is her name Curl? Curl, Dr. Curl.

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Major Tuddy? I love him. He's awesome. Yes. Who are these people on the internet that they're just so fucking, they're so cool and they're so fucking cynical that everything's stupid. Major Tuddy's the best. Major Tuddy's not stupid.

You're stupid. Best mascot in the NFL. Probably. Look at that. He's cool. He's awesome. Major Tuddy. Look at that thing, dude.

There's team history. Part of the only, he looks like a throwback. Like you literally take the one of the only good portions in team history and you pay homage to it. And it's a fucking pig. And he's cute. Yeah. He's got the old unicolor scheme going on. I like the name.

Major Tuddy people were like, oh, more like Major Titty. I'm like, grow the fuck up. A bunch of Dan Snyders out there. He's cool. Why isn't he a commander? Shut the fuck up and enjoy the best mascot in the NFL. Major Tuddy. Look at him.

Got charisma, too. Oh, and one lifetime, but he's not going to let that. Look at that gate. That's a very awkward run out than you would imagine making when you run out between a group of people and. Oh, no, you can trip. A lot of pressure. You don't feel a goddamn thing in that mask. You can be whoever you want to be as an NFL mask out.

It's got to be awesome, actually. I'm so glad you said that. That was my next note there. Chief Tuddy is a, or major, major Tuddy. You can't say Chief Tuddy. Wow. Did you hear about the Kansas City Chiefs? that. Did you hear about the Kansas City Chief Superfan that, uh, Commander and Chief?

They got arrested. Yes, we didn't slip. What, which got? What's the bank robber? Yeah. We did a whole thing on it. What's your take? My take is I've seen the guy and I always thought, and I followed, yeah, and I followed him on, or like he'd pop up on my social and I'd always be like, that guy is a little too aggressive. Like, yeah, there was always something off. And when it came out, I was like, I feel like I already knew that you know. Is that something? Should have spoken up.

Yeah. How do you feel now? Wow. Nobody got hurt, right? There's a red dye on your hands. No, but it's funny that his, uh, his bank robberies coincided with the chief's away game. So like, I mean, just so everything about that.

It's a Netflix story. It is a Netflix story. It's like 15 minutes long. Got robs two banks. Then they arrest him. He stands in the parking lot. He's like, you can't get a pro se part series. Yes.

James Cameron fucking, yeah, don't even give me starting on. He was like a getaway driver, maybe. He never met me. Here it is, guys. We got to blow the whistle. We got to blow the hunger games whistle for a couple teams in the AFC. We'll start in the AFC. First team, the Raiders, actually mathematically eliminated this weekend.

I think the big story in this game is obviously Jared Stidham. Nobody thought this team was going to be able to hang. I had San Francisco teased. a couple ways. Just needed them to win. Who would have thought the total would have gone over by so much? It was one of the highest scoring games of the weekend, if not the highest scoring game of the weekend.

As Kyle alluded to, two backups, but one of them playing in his first start. He had not thrown forever like 75 yards in the game. He threw for like 150 the first half. And some of these touchdown balls that he threw were legitimately great throws. Devante Adams is otherworldly. 153. The touchdown.

Two major tuddies. You know, the toe drags, the, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the football on that bomb late in the game where he has to come back to it. It's not even really a back shoulder throw. He just, I mean, that was an 80, 20 ball. Um, and he makes the play on it. Of course, the review, you could say might have been incomplete, but, you know, they didn't call it incomplete on the field. It was going to be hard to overturn that. Um, I thought Stidham looked great. I don't know what this means for him in the future. But for Josh McDaniels. it's exciting having a guy that you probably pulled for you brought him there from new england knows your your system and look better than derrick car out there in a lot of ways.

First Miller light mentioned viewing party Derek Carr watching that ball game with their car could not have been a good time. Yeah and what's up with that? I mean I think it's really disrespectful I think it's first off I think it's really disrespectful and I heard cower talk about this as well you spend 10 years on one team he's the second longest tenured quarterback in the National Football League on one team behind Aaron Rogers. And you take that into account when a team says get the fuck out of the building and you're benched. You have one game left. The team said, but the team didn't tell them to leave though,

did they? Yeah, that's what I'm assuming. No, I'm assuming Derek said, Derek was like, well, I don't want to be around. I think they probably had the conversation that I had with Chicago that was like, hey, it would be best if I went this way. And they said to me, it would probably, be best if you didn't come back to the building. But you were hurt. I was hurt. I was hurt. Question mark.

They said don't come back to the building? Yeah. How? Why? Your presence? That happens. Yeah, yeah. Why, though?

It's a distract. You're toxic. You're a toxic. You're a distraction. Oh, they were telling you you were toxic? Yeah. Like Britney Spears. I got toxic.

I got a little Britney Spears. But what I'm saying as it pertains to Derek Carr is, you have a guy there who has been through tremendous high or tremendous lows and some really good highs. as a player, but never really as a team experience the ultimate highs. You owe him the respect to let him play out his last year. Yeah, but then they might owe him the money, right? Isn't that the point if he gets hurt? What is money?

Yeah, well, it's very real in the NFL. Especially in Vegas. Especially in Vegas where you're too, you're too broke to cut your, to fire your coach. Is it 40.4 million? I think it was like $40 million. Now, Kyle, listen. That could be why they told him to go home because we don't want you tripping and falling on away. I mean, listen, they might have something there.

I disagree. I think that there was a leak. I think that conversation is initiated usually by the player. I don't think they told him to leave. I think, you know, it is borderline disrespectful, if not for the contract situation to bench him. But it's also nice for Josh to get a look at Jared Sidham going to the off season. You know, and there's something promising to see there. you could trade the guy

you could keep him around he could develop into your yeah I don't think this is going to happen and I don't like doing this like hyping a guy up off one start but you know maybe you think it's fifth year next year I think it's fourth or fifth yeah that sounds about right Auburn

but the bottom line is I do believe and I don't know how the conversation went down with Derek Carr as somebody who's had to sit through a lot of very a few very uncomfortable years in my career, injured, and at times it would have been better for me to just kind of pack it in and maybe leave the building. It was kind of a formality when I got cut. And I wasn't a quarterback,

so there's not that distraction factor, but like leaving the building, what? I thought the next day it was one thing that the bears told you to leave the building, which surprises me. I owed them a couple doors. Oh, you were breaking things. Yeah, I had a rough day a couple times. Just a couple doors. just a couple of doors off the, off the, you know, those meeting room doors. Yeah, they're, they're flimsy. No, they can take a beating, actually. Well, so more like, more like club, but Derek Carr didn't beat up any doors. From the locker room.

Derek Carr didn't beat him. Get him the fuck out of here. Derek Carr didn't beat up any doors. My point is like, just stick. We don't know that. Well, stick around and support your teammates and just finish your, and I know that we've just gotten to a point in, you know, in the sports media world. and just online and fans.

Just like some things are actually sacred, but people don't make anything sacred anymore. It's like, yeah, but the player has a right to do. And players should have rights to do a lot of things that we never considered as sports fans to this point. But like, to me, some things are still cutting dry. You support your team. People can make their own decisions to do what they want.

But I thought Derek Carr, I thought Derek Carr would have been like the last dude to say, nah. Yeah, it's kind of a bad look. And I respect Derek Carr. And this is a blip on the radar screen and his legacy. I don't know. Jets, Indy, I don't know.

He goes to New York Jets and the media situation gets even worse. The media already hounds Derek Carr. If he goes to New York Jets and has a fucking hiccup, they're going to shit their hands. What are you going to leave the building? Yeah. You leave the building. No, that's not they're going to. Yeah, yeah, I know.

Derek, have you considered leaving the building? Yeah. That's not good. Anyways, Stidham. Stidham was good, man. And Brock Purdy was real good, too. I mean, like, Iuke and him have a real good connection. You saw it on that last drive, man.

Some of the off-schedule stuff, like, it's really nice having that, dude. You know, in the beginning, they didn't maximize him, but he's playing a big role. I think San Francisco was sleepwalking a little bit. And then now they've gotten the comeback. Come back out of their system. They got that other system. Joe, fine.

Nick Bosa, who was, I've been saying for a few weeks. now this is his DPOI race to lose. Is that the Colton Miller Bull Rush? The bull rush that forces the pick. I mean, you know, it's not a sack, right? No, it's a fucking big pressure and it's a turnover. And it's sealed the game for them. Yep.

Yep. On the throw. Yeah. It's all bad. Yep. And my only, here's my only gripe with San Francisco. Well, it's a preemptive gripe. Don't trot CMC out there and run him into the ground this weekend.

You know, I had this written in my notes, and then I saw that, You know, he has a mild ankle sprain, but they've been, they've been riding him like a secretary at Kyle. And, you know, it's time to give him a break going into the playoffs. They were riding them like this one of the house.

Yeah, oh, wow. 25 touches for Christian. Debbie needs a hamster. Debbie needs some maintenance. Kyle, Jesus. I was turning them out. You know,

carnival rides get more maintenance than Debbie did. There's a there's there's there's safety regulations right The Arizona Cardinals run the ball more than Debbie got breaks Okay I don't know what you're talking about All right all right good Oh it's a little knock knock knock for you knock knock okay Corey we're off the rails Cory who Corey Chase Long

Okay Corey would bet the Steelers late last night for a scooter. Good for you. Oh, yeah. Good for you. Yeah. Okay. So then we got to blow the whistle for the Jets as well. And all I'll say about the Jets is this man. Like obviously, Breece Hall was a game changer for them. Losing him was an absolute game changer. But you can't rely. Yeah, you can't rely that much. And Mackay Beckton, you can't rely that much on one player. And you can't boil this season down to Zach Wilson is the boogeyman. You know, like Zach Wilson, we've, talked about this. I think we've been pretty measured on it. We gave it to him pretty good when he was

a dickhead after the game. I've also come to his defense at times. And this is one of those situations where I'll say, hey, the Mike White thing was very cute. And I want to like Mike White like everybody else. We all had fun with it. We had fun, but they're not scoring more points with Mike White. You know, there was, there were some illusions of the, the offense functioning at a higher level and they were at times but not you know it seems like in the red zone they just they stall and they get on the other side of the field they just stall and the points per game it's not going up without zach wilson so whether it's mike lafleur or whether it's the talent around him which i don't think it's a talent problem i think it's a scheme and a quarterback problem i don't think the answer's in

the building but i think zach got too much shit um in relation to kind of the adulation that mike white was getting because he's a lower draft pick and people like the under dog um i i don't think he made them that much better in in in retrospect looking at this run zach wilson for jarrott stid him straight up who says no jets or well you'd have to believe jack wilson is uh is is well the jets are going to want to move him regardless i i don't know that for more you for more i mean you know he's going to need draft picks on top of that but but i i don't know that Zach Wilson is going to be the hottest commodity in the in the market this off season like who's a Zach Wilson target a slightly hotter commodity than Josh Rosen was yeah or you think oh hotter

hotter than that because of the arm talent and probably because of you know and you know these coaches are they think they can fix anything um that that factor right like I can fix this guy you know they just couldn't fix him up there I can get him straight maybe it's a place like Denver, you know, not they have the draft capital, but I don't know what, you know, maybe it's, it's, hey, it's place like Kansas City. Maybe it's Kansas City. Dude, that's exactly what I was going to say. It's going to have the opportunity to play under Andy Reed and be able to shadow a guy like

Patrick Mahomes every day and see what the top tier level of competition looks like on a day and day out basis. Here's the problem. You don't want Zach Wilson spot starting for you week 18 or in the wildcar round or week 10 because he's not he's not a game manager you know a lot of times you you you you want that back up to be the guy that just keeps the chains moving doesn't make any big mistakes Zach Wilson's kind of got that fuck it gene in him but I mean that's what that's kind of the brand of the deal that's the DNA in Kansas City right he's not Chad Henney not the way they are now

Alex Smith nor is Patrick Mahomes I mean when my homes is in there we're all hanging on the edge of our seat I know oh my god oh my good but look at what they're doing now though not now they're all about efficiency and moving the ball and moving the chains and not taking these big these big chances and everything like patrick has scaled his his game back but you know it's semantics we're talking about a total hypothetical but i think zach wilson is an interesting prospect because he's not like a plug and play backup he is talented he does probably appeal to some like egotistical offensive coaches kind of like pallet for yeah in the in the milfs uh but I don't know where that's going to be.

Cardinals traded. Cardinals traded Rosen for a second and a fifth to Miami. Yeah. And he said, can I get a hot tub again? Well, there was also the perception that at that point, Josh Rosen, like, was just chosen over. And that, you know, he had to be, you know, maybe we give this guy a little bit more time.

He had shown failure on the field. Yes. Well, he did, he did, but it was a year. It was a year, right? Zach Wilson, I feel like we've seen this movie. Anyways. The problem was Zach, he just looked like a deer in the headlights, that, whatever that Thursday night, Thursday night game. Oh, it was bad.

Just not composed. It was bad. I kind of question Mike LaFleurre, though, because, you know, you've got talent on the outside. I know you had some offensive line injuries. I know the run game's not great, and I know I'm listing a bunch of things that work against the offense, but they haven't been able to put up points with even with Mike White. And, you know, ultimately that falls on his shoulders, too. You've got to be able with the defense they had to finish.

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GLP 1, 2, 23. That's the date. I got 23 the first time. Yeah, that's good. Usually it takes you a couple times. All right, 23, 21 Patriots over Dolphins. Nice to done. Yeah, thank you.

That's a number segue. That's professional. This one, this was fun for me. It was good to see Teddy Bridgewater. He's been through so much to get back to where he is physically, and I know we've been through injuries. and to be in the position he was was cool. And then to see him go out.

And then get hurt again. It was awful. Yeah. And it's a finger. A hand, I think. Some like that. On the pick. I mean, Kyle Dugger is everywhere.

They line them up in so many places. And I was thinking about how that confuses not only quarterbacks and the receivers, but as an offensive lineman pre-snap, facing these multiple defenses. It's a luxury. He's a luxury. And having to count. Does he count in the blitz count? Does he not?

And you can do more. And you catch people in these situations where Teddy got caught, where you throw it up. And oh my God, there was two. Now there's three guys there. The ball's in his lap. Is he a linebacker? Is he a safety?

He can add in the run game. He can blow up. When we saw him blow up, Ikea Kuanu, and preseason, one of the most violent safeties coming down to set an edge. I mean, Kyle. In came Skywalker Thompson. Yeah.

Love the name. Luke Skywalker Thompson. That's his full name making. So I thought it was interesting about the fumble early in that game that peppers, that peppers forced and peppers was all over the field too early. Belichick went to grab his red flag and he was going to challenge rightfully the no fumble call in the field because clearly I think it was Jeff Wilson. The ball was dislodged, but they called it dead because of forward progress.

And Belichick says the officials told him it can't be challenged. But page seven of the replay case book was amended this year. Right. And this is really interesting. And this is something that could come up in the playoffs. Because as everybody knows, like when these new rules come in, you know, coaches sometimes will miss them. I mean, Bill Belichick's the goat.

And he just took the officials word for it. But you could absolutely have challenged that that penalty or that, that, that, that, that fumble and Gene Sterator confirm that. Here's what, what the rule is. If on field officials rule forward progress, replay can only review the position of the ball in relation to the line to gain or goal line and can rule that there is a fumble with clear recovery if possession is lost prior to and these are the words that were amended this year or simultaneously with the defensive contact

so what that basically means is you can overturn a no call on a fumble that the you know the the offense is saved by a situation where they say the forward progress to stop if the fumble happens simultaneously with the contact and that's what happened Sunday and I thought it was really interesting that that rule could come up going forward but also that bill had to take the officials word at face value and they were fucking wrong they just changed this rule so that this kind of football nerdy stuff but it was really interesting that that the goat didn't tell the officials that they to get fucked and that they were wrong in so many words but jean sterator uh said this specific instance is reviewable since the ball came loose following immediate contact and there was a clear

recovery he believes that new england would have been uh rewarded that so it's just another you know there was bad call missing the fumble bad by the officials to not give bill you know the option challenge the the play so that's very interesting yeah so when you look at the pads uh the pads are in with a win against uh the pads are in with a win against the bills that's that's first and foremost but there's also a path for them if they lose this Sunday if the Jets, the Browns and the Jags win, I believe. The dolphins, who we're about to talk about in a second, get in with a win and a New England loss,

but Bridgewater broke his hand, so we just mentioned that. Is it going to be Skylar Thompson, Tua probably doesn't go? Which, you know, like this thing is getting sketchy, right? Like, you know, you worry about the. the guy's health. Yeah, it is sad because as much as we go back and forth with dolphins fans and argue with them and whatever, you want to see the guy have an

opportunity to play healthy football. And he seems like a great kid. But this weekend, he probably doesn't play. So dolphins have to win and get the New England loss. Here's an interesting thing. And we haven't looked at the score Monday night football just started. But if the Bengals beat the bills and Kansas City went, the Bengals are great. Oh, who scored? How much time left in the, in the, the game. Seven minutes to go first quarter. Okay, great. So anyways, I got the Bengals tonight. That's good. Okay, so

so, um, the Bengals got to get those boys in single high. They got to run the ball. If they can get them in single high, they can, they can carve them up. But the bottom line is, if the Bengals beat the bills in Kansas City wins Saturday, which, which both things could happen, the bills might have nothing to play for versus New England, depending on how you look at it. They could, they're, they're going to have to look at the Bengals and the Ravens who were playing at the same time and say the Bengals got up big and there was no no chance of them

stumbling in that hypothetical they might pull their starters this happened a couple years ago with the bills they played their starters for like half the game week eight week 17 now it's week 18 and my bad if you just said this but they are holding raven's bingles one o'clock or four o'clock depending on what happens in monday night got it got competitive fairness so so so competitive fairness probably do it simultaneously, right? Yeah. So everybody plays. So, you know, long-winded here, but imagine, you know, you're the bills and you don't

have much to gain. Say you look at Sinci getting up at way out ahead. But this is me as Joe fan with my coach brain. But if you're, if you're the bills, you got beat by the dolphins once. You got to assume two was probably going to come back. I mean, knowing the way these things happened, they took you to the wire in your home stadium with the light snow it wasn't like a fucking blizzard they perform like a cold weather team up there it's a tough matchup for the bills however you slice it i think and do you want them in the

playoffs is any part of you like yeah fuck we got the fucking patriots handled like maybe in the second half we we try out some backups and give us a little mini buy and let these these patriots in the playoffs and keep the dolphins out of the playoffs because i i got to tell you if i'm the bills i'm a little bit afraid of the dolphins. A minimal. $6.52 to go first quarter. Bingle 7, Bill's 3.

Oh, good, good. I got a bunch of stuff. I won't pour you with it. Okay. So that's interesting. And you know Bill has some shit saved up for this matchup, right? Because you know he's looking at the schedule

on a macro level at the beginning season. He's saying it's going to come down to week 18. Wherever we want to go, we're not going to be good enough to be playing for nothing, you know, at that juncture in the season. So you know he had to save something. and I'll be really interested to see what their game plan looks like. So there's a lot to think about with the, with the dolphins.

Obviously, they play the Jets this weekend. I actually like the Jets there. But say they win, they need the Patriots to lose. If you like the bills and you like the Jets, then the Steelers have a shot. And I do think the Steelers have a shot. And I got to tell you, Chase Long was, was intently watching this game on his phone last night. I was down big on the Sunday and I just decided to put it all. on the Steelers and got it all back, man.

It was so thrilling. I was just in there alone. At midnight, nobody watched the game with them, watching on my phone. Naji looked good. Naji looked really good. The Baltimore defense, though, now has given up. I think it's four game-winning touchdown drives this season.

I mean, there was the Buffalo game. Buffalo had the ball 13 plays that go for 69 yards. 2320 is the way that game made. They ate the last four minutes with that drive. The Dolphins, they struck, they struck quick. I think they get the ball with 228 to go. They didn't need all of it. They six plays, 68 yards.

Go ahead, touchdown. The Jags, go nine plays, 91 yards. And they kick, you go for two and they win that game, 28, 27. And now Pittsburgh, six plays, 56 yards. And you know what my favorite part about that drive was? Mike Tomlin's just his patience. I mean, they never hurried up. You know, a lot of people probably screaming, hey, hurry up, you got to do this.

They made sure they got a first down. Then they hit a big chunk before the two-minute warning. And they say, okay, we're at midfield. We're good. Let's take the two-minute warning. We got plenty of time. They didn't have to speed up. And I think this is a testament to the way Mike Tomlin coaches his team.

They're just so cool, calm, and it's collected, right? Yeah, it's collected. They maintain their game. They do, man. They do in any situation they're in. You know, they were two and six or whatever to start this season. Now he's not only. he maintains this this 500 streak,

which is a fun thing for everybody to talk about at the end of every season. But they're also knocking at the doorstep of getting the playoffs. And I actually happen to think they're a tough out. And I like what I see from Kenny Pickett, but again, it's just that the heart and soul of Mike Tomlin really bleeds through

in the way this team plays, whether it was the stops they needed late. You know, they just got really, they were nails late in this game when they had to get punts back. but I love the way that drive. They kept all three timeouts. They didn't use any of them just in case

at the 10-yard line. If Naji doesn't catch that ball and they don't get it on fourth down, they're going to pin and catch a punt. I just love Mike Tomlin, man. And I think this is a good opportunity to give him his flowers. Let me know if you're parking in this garage.

It seems like everybody in that locker room can be himself too. There are a lot of different personalities like this George Pickens is a big personality. He wants to be the number one wide receiver in the league, and yet he fits within this framework. Cam Hayward? Yeah.

He's going to let you know about it. Almost had a hollow man situation. Terrible call. Well, he made contact with the official, which is I think what it might have been. I think the first lunge, everybody was like, they thought that was the flag.

I think when he lunged off the pile and, you know, just to be fair. Yeah. He's a big dude. That's a heavy hand. You want to co-sign with that, though? No, I do. I do.

That's why everybody can be. We had Chazir on here and he was like, hey, he found a way to manage Antonio. I think if Antonio Brown was still in Pittsburgh, we'd be okay. You know, at least the band-aid would still be on. I don't know if that's true. But, yeah, I just, I love Kenny Pickett, man. It's not like they're light in the world on fire.

And I'm certainly not saying he's Joe Montana. But what I am saying is now they've stacked together a couple of these late game kind of heroics drives, you know, whether it was, you know, the throws he made against Indy or last week against the Raiders. This guy's actually growing up and they got a nice young core with Friarmouth, with Pickens. I like what they got to love that.

Love that. They used to do it for he's. Yep. It's like a, it's a perfect transition. And I just feel good about where they are right now as a program. I don't know where they're going to go in the future. But, you know,

Mike Tomlin saying, Kenny fucking picket is walking off the field. Makes me think he really likes this kid. and he sees him as part of the future. And 30 gives him a different element in the run game. I forget what that kid's name is. Jaylon Warren. Yeah.

Where do you go to school? And they got positive draft capital during the year by trading Claypool. Yeah. Yeah, who has been taking a shit in Chicago. Snow College, which I've never heard of it. The line of the- I have. Brocko Mindenhall went there.

Oh, really? Snow College, yeah. Chris Collinsworth line of the night. Somebody calling an exorcist because Nausea Harris is possessed. I was like, and Al was like oh you know it was uh Naji Harris was great he hurtled somebody in the box and then the next play he just he moved Kenny picket into the gap he needed to be it was he was doing everything so did you Al Mike might just out Mike yeah I did so right Mike Mike Mike's one

of the best in the game yes still remains one of the best of the game um so yeah that's what they need to happen and then week 18 what's the other stuff that's going on here around the AFC the AFC South title game basically. Titans Jags. Saturday night. It's going to be good. Fucking Brable.

Jags, I'm all Jags. Well, what do you think the line is? You got Joshua Dobbs. He'll be the starter. I think the line is... It's in Jacksonville. Five.

You're close. I think it's six and a half right now. It was seven. Huh. Careful to go down a little bit. You don't just bet the game? You can do that. You can bet money line, but at 7 that's going to be kind of risky if you want to

bet the Jags. Hold on. A little Saturday. There's no way I can just say, I think that the Jags win the game. Yeah, you can. You can. You can. But it's just if you're going to bet $100, that might be $270 if you lose.

Okay. You know? Speaking of betting Jacksonville, my friends. the Jacksonville Dolphins have covered Yeah, baby It's cool Oh my God, I'm loving that free money you give out sometimes How do you, what's the you can't give your

I won't tell you the method to the madness But I'll keep giving them out It's Ken Palm related, isn't it? It is computer related to this. Okay, got it. We appreciate the gift, man. I do think the Chargers will be watching the AFC South Championship game really closely

because they would much rather go to Tennessee, I think. They probably would much rather go to Tennessee. Jacksonville looks really hot right now, dude. They're like Hansel. They're just really hot right now. And, you know, that would be a great game. Jacksonville, the Chargers has already happened this year. I think the Jags put a boot in their ass,

but things have changed a little bit for both teams. And that would just be a great game. And I think Kansas City, as it stands right now, would have the winner of that game. And that would be a fun one, too, because Kansas City, they've all had, yeah. And the Chargers could be the five. The five could be Baltimore, Cincinnati, or L.A.

That's right. That's right. So none of this shit's binding, but I think the Buffalo, and the league's taking a lot of shit for how they've scheduled shit. Jacksonville and Tennessee Saturday night. This is a tweet from Warren Sharp, and obviously some of this I think is probably a little bit sensationalist. I think some of it's just like getting mad at the league to get mad at the league.

No matter what, there's going to be some fucked up shit going on. You can't blame the league for wanting to keep their bread buttered with Aaron Rogers and Primetime on Sunday night. But Warren Sharp says NFL could have put Detroit Green Bay on Saturday night in Jacksonville, Tennessee on Sunday night. Instead, Detroit Green Bay is a Sunday night after Seattle, L.A., which obviously is related to Detroit's chance of getting in because Seattle has to win for them to even have a chance to get in. So, Kyle, if you're not familiar, Seattle has to win, and then Detroit has got to beat Green Bay. so they're going to be sitting there watching in the 4 p.m., the, I think it's a 4 p.m. Seattle and L.A. play. Yeah.

The line in that game's like seven. It's a big competitive disadvantage for Seattle. It's a competitive disadvantage for Seattle. A lot of people are complaining for the quality of the game on Sunday night. I think Detroit's going to play hard no matter fucking what. Their coach is Dan Campbell. It doesn't matter. Dan Campbell, bro.

But the precedent is bad that a team could know their destiny beforehand. So it's not good. It's just tough because if you're just tough, because if you're Detroit, you're kind of like, man, they're serving us up for Sunday night dinner, you know? It's like you're just feeding us to Aaron Rogers. That's what the league wants to happen. I wouldn't be surprised if Seattle gets some calls.

What's a group of lions called? A pride. Might be playing for a little bit of pride. Well, they need to get there. Have you guys been to Japan? Have I been to Japan? No. No.

In Japan, there's a delicacy called Fugu. You know what that is? You might know what that is. us? It's puffer fish. Oh. Yeah. It's puffer fish.

It's dinner like the lion's Sunday night, but it's toxic. It's highly toxic. It's probably the most toxic. Watch out. Yeah, I've heard about this. It's the most dangerous fish in the fish kingdom,

if not prepared correctly. So unless there's a Fugu handler in Green Bay, that's what they need to, they need to be the puffer fish, man. Even if they lose, I don't think Dan Campbell's going to have a hard time convincing these guys to fucking kill the Packers, man. A Fugu handler would be an amazing assassin.

He could just be like, oh, I messed up. Oh, yeah. Oh, sorry. My bad. Invite, like, some dignitary to the, yeah. You don't even know. You don't even need all that. You can just touch somebody and kill them.

But people ask like... No, seriously. You, why, there's a little, some residue is toxic. You guys following me here. It's, you know, if you're Dan Campbell, how do you appeal to your team? Man, like, fuck, let's kill these guys, man. You throw a mouse into a snake's cage and the mouse turns around with a sword. And it's like, let's get this mother's.

Does that? happened? Yeah, no, yeah. That's kind of Detroit could be that could be the mouse Sunday night. I had some puffer fish before you got out. Tom. So does that your whole face gets numb and shit. Dan Campbell should use that.

Sounds a lot like cocaine, all of this. Now if it were like Todd Bowles, not so sure. Yeah. But it's Dan Campbell. I'm going to send that into Dan Campbell, man. If Seattle wins, fucking be the puffer fish Sunday night, man. Yep. Yep. Yep. We should send them some. Sond's handler.

Fed of a Japanese guy with dry ice. Guys, no, there's this fish. I can hear him giving the speech. He got this fish out here. Yeah. All right, well, so Warren Sharp continues to complain. Not to mention Jackson, but he doesn't complain a lot. He's a really good football mind.

He knows the game. He watched the game. He's got a very informational feed, but 90% of it is complaining about football, about coaches and what they do and shit. People like the bitch. No, I know. It's all good. If Seattle wins, Detroit is eliminated, which helps Green Bay.

And Green Bay win eliminates Seattle. Not to mention Jacksonville is playing a more rested Tennessee on Sunday versus Saturday softens the, I don't know what he's saying here. And then the NFL also hurt Pittsburgh in Miami by putting Kansas City, Los Vegas on Saturday night. That has some validity to that. So I don't know. Well, you got to fill the slots here.

Yeah, I know. We got TV partners. We got to broadcast some games. So let's talk about the NFC. the Bucks win the Bucks are in the Packers win the Packers have a chance to be in

so the two goats have a chance to get in the playoffs the NFL Chris the bucks they started throwing it down the field they were chucking that thing I got to do I love to see that ball comes out so fast

on the intermediate stuff too he's so impressive too fast for his tight end sometimes yeah yeah here's the hero of the bucks game the punter yeah wow what a play

What, it looked like rugby. I thought I was watching rugby. Athlete. A rugby game broke out. If you're Carolina, I just feel like the minute you see that ball come out and the snap go bad, you're like, okay, we're going to get the ball. We're in this thing. Not just the fact that he caught it. He was able to evade people punt the ball.

This might be the most heroic thing I've ever seen a punter do. They're going to give them the medal of a hundred. Oh, my God. And then the punt down inside the 10, and now there's a penalty and a re-kick. but I think the punt took 12, 14 seconds off the game clock, so it just completely fucks the Panthers. Five capes. Oh, five capes from a certain angle.

It looked like he bent it like Beckham. Speaking of the bucks, again, I want to say this one more time. Hats off to Blaine Gabbard. That's fair play. Good save. You get a capes for that. Yeah. But I would love to see, of course, everybody be okay.

But a helicopter crash near me and maybe on a C-Doo, that's the easiest rescue in the world. Like the Paw Patrol can pull that off. No problem. Okay. What if they're... Think about it. What if they're flames?

I'm going in. We're in the water. Get a little fire on, man. I'm gonna water. Was it a saltwater rescue? Where is some dangerous waters here, Chris? What about smoke?

Are we? What about smoke? What about electricity? Smoke inhalation. Electricity. Good. We're good. What about concussive black?

It's like sticking your finger in a... What about EMP? Is this a gasoline-powered C-Doo? Do you ever thought about carbon? I'll just park it close to the helicopter get out and swim unlike Jennifer Coolidge she What about rebar? You ever thought about

Rebar? You could end up just like stuck this and Kyle was talking about season two white lotus You've seen it and you brought up the You saw the dick well maybe you didn't see Season 1 I saw Who's dick in season 1? There was a big old Steve Zon's dick is in season Oh right, his nuts too

His nuts were down there Yeah you guys know all the dick The dick I'll tell you what I watched it and I looked at my wife and I was like, that's fake. Well, wait until season two. Yeah, just you wait. Yeah.

Okay, so Brady looked awesome, man. Mike Evans. Another thousand-yard year. He's just a quiet hall favorite. Yeah, just quiet goat. And I thought that punt was just amazing. Camarda is the guy's name. We might as well say his name.

And then shout out to Nelson with the close out on the rush. That was a beautiful. rush. Packers got the win. I'll do this one. Yeah, okay. I got this one. Go ahead.

This is the only one that I have a script. Go ahead. Okay. So it started the missed opportunities. Settled in. Wasted opportunities for the Vikings. Early, third down for Aaron Rogers goes incomplete off the fingertips. The Vikings had an opportunity, but the punk got blocked in the shadow of their own

goalpost. This was kind of a microcosmo of the whole game because it was one of those series where one of those series of plays where it gives real confidence to a team, a supreme confidence to an offense. You're playing at Lambo. You block a punt. It's the beginning of the game. You have an opportunity to just snuff this thing out.

You got to score there. Score some fucking points earlier. You don't do that. The Vikings end up getting stuffed. They elect to take the Greg Joseph's a field goal in a massive blue balls moment. That's why I wrote the time. And then it led to the kick return from Kishon Nixon to the house.

Restoke the fans. You immediately hear that song, I'm going to bang on. a drum all day. That song gives me PTSD. You know when the Vietnam vets, they don't want to hear burn-d-o-d-d-you- know what I'm saying?

They don't want to hear that. In every movie. Well, because, yeah, yeah, in the movies, yeah. That comes on and there's a helicopter carrying into the USA. Yeah, which was actually an anti-American song. You got to come. So, Kishon Nixon, bang on a drum all day. Next big opportunity came on a fourth and one for Green Bay

where Rogers went play action. He got strip stack. Vikings got the ball back. and shit the bed for three downs. They like to go on for it on fourth down. They throw a pick over the middle. Darnell Savage went techno ball. Techno ball, actually.

He was like running up and down the field. You know what I'm saying? All the way to the house. Shout out to Preston Smith, who had a massive block leading the charge, leading the blocking. This was funny. This was really funny.

He got a knockdown. Okay, because he hit Kirk Cousins at the, I want to say, 10-yard line or 12-yard line, and he went, no, he went five yards into the end zone. So I had it at 51 feet that Kirk Cousins It was peak Vikings, man They were just getting the doors blown off them On the road

And just to cap it off, Kirk Cousins looks like you get thrown out of a moving vehicle It was cool, man Justin Jefferson slipped on a route Nothing went well for him all day. Kurt Cousin sailed it into a injury and Amos's hands With a helmet accidentally in a rage So they got the interception

Then they got the Aaron Jones explosive run led to a corner route touchdown by Robert Tanya. Now it's 24-3 and they're just, you know, spitting and, you know. Spitting getting. Well, here's the problem, Kyle. You left the hero of the game out. No. Well, Kyle's only on page

two. Well, we don't need to, we don't do the second half. Okay. Nothing good happened in the second half. No, no, it does end after it. Oh, okay. God. So did my breakdown. That's good. We both ended at the half. 24-3 is fucking over. It ends. It ends. Cousers threw another pick. Good. I don't have to re-watch this game. many more. Thank you. 24-3.

Missed opportunities in the first quarter. Rassul Douglas, huge. Shout out to Roussel Douglas. Obviously, Jair Alexander's getting a lot of credit. I think they were bracketing a little bit. Like so, and for Justin I was going to say something to you. What? Jair. Jair doesn't like when you say stuff like

like they're doing some bracketing. I'm not worried about it. He's a great player. Nobody's taking anything away from, but if you let me finish Justin, Justin Jefferson has got to feel like that guy that goes sackless and you know they slide to him all game and you know somebody's like got a tackle really handled him that used to be my least favorite word he they handled him well like what goes into that now obviously he got the better at justin jefferson but i think some people negate some

of the over-the-top help that that guys have Justin jefferson was fired up and like i said he uh he accidentally hit a referee with a helmet that was kind of fucking funny because he's a great guy you know he wouldn't do that on purpose be the first tell you sorry the hero of the game was dj slayton dj slayton one of these they got a young core of these uh these interior d lineman lowry was down um you know like this kid stepped up on the goal line he made that stop and that stop that you mentioned was was the stop of the game right because you go up seven nothing on the road that's a little bit different um than then the way they were out the gate j slayton made that play on third down for some kick the field goal he also tipped the football uh on that pick i want to say or

uh he tipped the football and wanted kirk cousins picks on the amos pick uh i think it was amos pick yeah so dj slayton played a great game he did a lot of really good stuff shout out to the packers core of their uh interior line because they they do a good job up front and kenny clark's obviously a beast but some of the other guys don't get a lot of credit uh joe barry's done a better job and they didn't have rishon gary so i think this is interesting Kyle you know the vikings they're out of number one uh number one contention right they had a small chance of being the the best team in the nFC and host some playoff games and shit um and going up there this could be the difference between being a one and a two between having one and two playoff games at home which is a huge difference

and they show up and they lay an egg like this you would well i mean it's a big difference Yeah, could mean going back to Dallas, man. So this is a really fucked up situation. A night at the Vikings because you look at, and a lot of Vikings fans are like, oh, why do people always, yeah, butt with us? Because of shit like this. Yeah.

Because you've been blown out four times this year by good teams, the Cowboys, the Eagles, well, you were getting blown out by the Colts. You're colds up 31, 33 points. They're not a good team. And now you got these guys. Just get me my overwin total. And then it's time to move on because they can't,

they can't, they can't, they can't stop the pass. They can't rush the passer. They got great rushes. They can't rush the passer. They can't stop explosive plays. I don't know, Kyle. I'm just, Mason Crosby, I forgot to mention this. He had a successful doink at the end of the second quarter.

He had a field goal that hit the crossbar and went in. The NFC East, right? The Eagles, the Cowboys. interesting situation. Here's why it's so interesting, Kyle. Kyle. Yeah, Chris. These teams could either be one seeds or they could be five seeds.

And they can play like one seeds or five seeds. And well, more, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I guess. It would help to have Jalen Hertz back and they will have Jalen Hertz back this weekend. Yeah, I mean. Yeah, they didn't play well. They didn't play well this weekend. We've seen a lot of victories from the Eagles and a lot of complete game wins,

but there's been some quarters. There's been some halves of football games. games where the Eagles didn't look like the juggernaut that we all know them to be well they abandoned the run game yesterday you know they just didn't run the football mild Sanders usage was way down um you try to get gardener minch you comfortable you just come out there and just sling the ball he gets bawdy put out a video you got hit like four times in the first eight plays just getting tattooed that's not the way you want to come out of the gates against you know like a a low-key tough saints team and um does it surprise me a lost game not particularly uh they've got to win now

because you do not want to go to the five seed and have to go down in Tampa again. You get a rematch, you could get a rematch of, you could get two NFC rematches in the playoffs, Tampa and Philly. And then there's also Green Bay could possibly have to go to San Francisco. Jeez, that would be a great game.

Beville Godwin. That's likely. That's likely. Bevel Godwin. I'm watching these fucking games thinking, I'm going to get Aaron in. I'm going to get Tom in. We're going to get, you know, San Francisco, Green Bay.

That's going to be great. The Eagles could have to go down there. Vikings Giants was just a banger, three-point banger. Absolutely. Speaking of the giants, do you think the giants will try to play spoiler against the Eagles this weekend? No. So we're going to try to win the game, but it's going to be

with Terad Taylor and in company. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. We've talked about it. Yeah, I don't know. So I, um, I just think it's interesting because if you go through the, the possibilities, the Eagles win, the, the, the, the Cowboys lose. Uh, the, things stay the same pretty much.

the Eagles lose, the Cowboys win, then the Eagles all of a sudden they felt like they had it under control for the entire season, and now they're having to go play Tom and not have to get a fucking, you don't get a single home game quite possibly, the entire plan.

The road goes through the link two weeks ago and now you might be on the road having to play like a wild card too. If they were at Tampa, I bet they'd be a 10-point favorite. No. Eight and a half, nine, ten. I got it at seven. In all these scenarios, you know,

some take the Niners losing, not going to happen. Cards. Yeah, they play the cards. So, and they put all three of the top NFC teams in the 425. So they got that handled. In San Francisco, it goes without saying it wants to two as opposed to the three. And as we wrap this up with the NFC and everything, like I know not to, not to, you know, driving into the ground here and make the point.

It's too obvious, but Jalen Hertz, if anybody is worried about, is it him? Is it the offense? like they just look totally different. And, you know, there's an extra man you got to account for in the run game. So he's not making that mistake that Minchu did to seal the game. And I got none against Minchu. I really like Minshu. But there's a difference between Minshu and Jalen hurts.

Yeah. And that left tackle. Yeah. And Lane being out really hurts for the run game. And in the past game, obviously, but in the run game as well, you just assume that he's taking care of that end in a lot of scrimmage and a lot of their read stuff. And, you know, everybody talks about. He hadn't given up a sack in a long time,

but he's legit in every facet of the game. So anyways, the Eagles and the Cowboys situation to watch this weekend. What else do we have to worry about in the NFC, Matt NACC? Mostly just looking at that Sunday night game, Green Bay. I mean, we'll be watched earlier to see if Seattle has a chance or if it's Detroit. Yeah. And then just the seating, see who gets the two, who gets the big. Green Bay's going to roll.

Green Bay is going to roll regardless of what happens earlier on in the day. Green Bay rolls. Not so fast, my friend. Free Bay is going to be just... I wonder what the temp's going to be in Green Bay because that's something that we usually take into account when Jared Goss is playing on the road.

You want to do mentions? Do mentions. Get the fuck out of here. All right, Miller Lake mentions. Who you guys got for Best Plain Ride? I'll go Pittsburgh Steelers. Sunday night. That's a short flight.

That's a big win. you're alive for the playoffs Tomlin's streak and we're talking about Steelers Ravens Ravens haven't been around that long they were the Cleveland Browns once upon a time but it's become one of the best rivalries in the NFL

huge rivalry and you know a lot of respect between Tomlin and Harbaugh and a short flight as you point out there are also my best plane ride my best plane ride the 49ers they still won an overtime Robbie Gold got a little redemption shot short flight

he's definitely buying people, he's buying people dinner and beer because he got a redemption shop. So I'll give you a worst plane ride. Who's your worst plane ride? The Jets. Yes. New Year's Eve in Seattle.

So, you know, I like Seattle a lot, but New Year's Eve. And then a four-hour flight home at probably nine o'clock, East Coast time. You know, getting back till after midnight, that sucks. Brutal.

Season's over. Getting ready for exit meetings. This is the ickyest time of the year. just high stress. Dolphins, you lose a game, you got to go, you got to go back to Miami at the greater Miami area. Yeah.

Several hundred square miles. Yep. That's a tough scene. Yeah. Lost five in a row. Yeah. Worst playing right, Kyle? What he said.

Yeah. All right. Hollow man. I'm going to go, there's so many options here. You could have to do Ron Rivera. Could we be eliminated? Could it be the Ohio State kicker.

Ruggles. it's it's cave on tibodow though yes all right it's bad look it's a bad look well first i think the onus is on you to disprove the theory that he might have i i can't argue with bad look but he's that's all that's been said but he didn't know i disagree i think there's a distinct listen i know he said he didn't know but what it looked like is that and i was talking about this bro the fucking the trainer had to come like trainer was like yo get out of my way this is awkward it well it went on it was a very awkward and you can see him look at it biggest code break of the whole thing is you're unblocked okay like chill out homes but but

but then after and a snow angel there's no precipitation and then and then like his legs are hitting nick foals so he's his legs are hitting someone and I buy the first three four seconds he probably didn't know but then there's a moment where he looks over and a lot of people have pointed out that he looked over at nick foals and his his snow angel arm motion goes from on the ground hitting nick foals to off the ground to avoid nick foals so like yeah bro i'm not c s i new york here um but you know i feel like i'm getting my legs getting pissed on people are telling me it's rain a little bit it it was a bad look and if he did know,

and then after the fact going to the sideline and taking that thing, which could have been the Steph Curry thing, I've seen that, yeah, I'm just trying to give people the, because you know what, here's what we got. And if you haven't noticed today, nobody said shit about this for a few reasons. Number one, when sports media at this point,

you know, we pick people that we see being the victims of, you know, some false narratives, some, you know, Todd McShay, pushing the Jalen Carter narrative, the whole, you know, Kavon's got this character problem. He's not a hard worker, this, that, and the third. So then this person becomes slightly protected by the media because we don't want to do anything to give ammunition to the people that were under false

pretenses or with bad motives attacking this kid. I am not that person, okay? I have done nothing but praise what he's done since he's got in New York. In the beginning, I said it's going to be a long year. He's got to learn how to rush a little bit. I think he's done that over the course of the year. It's been a nice year. He's had four sacks.

He's made some huge plays. But at no turn in the road, have we had to talk about his character? So I'm not somebody that's anti-Kavon-Tibodeau. Does it hurt his case that I happen to know Nick Foles, and I think the world of him, he's sitting there. It looks like he's having a fucking seizure. And, you know, Kavon's on the ground doing this awkwardly long celebration. It looked like a fucking Bush League move.

move. It looked like a bullshit move. And I can't, that's what my eyes see looking at that. Now you can tell me and you, that you will always have plausible liability because you just have to say I didn't see. I didn't know. You can say what you want, but to me that looked like a little bit of hot garbage. And I also think it's a little bit, it's a little, it's a little trash that a lot of media members haven't said a word about it. And I think part of it is what I said earlier, protecting a guy they think is under attack, but also I think there's some hedging of the bets. I don't want to call this guy out

because I might need a relationship with him over the next 10 years because we think he's going to be a star because he's had a really good couple weeks. And I think that's the way some of the media operate. And I got to say, I'm a Kavon fan, but if Kavon heard this and he was like, hey, fuck Chris Long for saying that was trash.

It's trash, bro. That was a trash move. Yeah. And logically, his, like, non-apology only makes sense if he did do it on purpose. Because imagine if you didn't do it on purpose. You'd be like, bro, I'd be mortified. I'd be terrified. And I'll tell you, I was in a situation like this.

When we played the Texans, Matt Scha was a quarterback. And... UVA great. Yep. And I fucking sacked him down in Houston and didn't see that his ankle got caught underneath. And he had a high ankle spring because I folded him over some of my... and I ran away celebrating, like, away from the pile, like 20 yards, and was celebrating. And people were like, you were celebrating while the guy was on the ground.

And, like, people were giving me shit about it. And I was like, I was mortified. And, you know, I think I did say, I'm sure, he was a UVA guy at the very least, not that it wouldn't matter if he was a tech guy. He's a guy. He was Logan Wilson or what fucking Thomas. He was Logan Thomas, I would have been. Even if he was Logan Wilson.

If he was Logan Ryan. You know, if he was Logan from X-Men, even if he's going to heal in a second, I'm going to feel bad about it. There was no contrition after the game. The hollow man, the hollow man for me is the O line for the Colts. And that's another element of it. I'm disappointed in the group. Logan Roy.

I'm disappointed in the group because obviously you got two free runners at your quarterback. Now your quarterback's down. First off, if your quarterback's on the ground, if you're running backs on the ground, if your receiver's on the ground and you're within 10 yards, you should be there with your hand out picking them up off the ground. That's the golden rule number one for offensive line. Number two, if somebody's hitting your quarterback late or somebody's getting shown up,

you're kind of obligated to get in there and do something physically. What would you have done if you saw Kavon doing the on the ground? Spear them. Right, and just see what happens. I'd spear them. And that's the reality of things, man. And I would trust that three of my homies would be right behind me to pick off anybody else.

And here's the deal. And no, like, listen, this is just kind of the way things are. There is a little bit of a code in the NFL. And, you know, there's a lot of shitbag stuff that goes on in the NFL, but at the end of the day, when dudes are on the ground and we're not sure, like, what's going on with them,

imagine that this happened to a quarterback that people are more in love with. Yeah. Imagine this happened to Lamar. Imagine this happened to, you know, I don't know, Joe Burrow. like people are freaking out. I mean, just imagine. You're telling me nobody's freaking out?

Like a player that they have more of a connection with? The media is up in arms about this. So all I'm saying is I saw a buddy get fucked up and I saw a guy doing Snow Angels next to him. And even if I didn't know Nick, I'd probably be like, man, this is kind of Bush League. It was total Bush League. It was Bush League.

So I'm just going to call it how it is and it's a hollow man to me. It's Hollow Man. I don't think Kavon's a bad person. This was a bad thing, in my opinion. No, we've all done bad things. Yeah. And I've done things I'm not proud of on the football field.

I've done horrible things, particularly in football games. But it's now my job to break the game down, and I just thought that was kind of Bushley. Yeah. Who you got makes? The guy in the building who told Riverboat Ron during the week that Week 18 still mattered to the commanders under any scenario. Because I'm sure he was told that.

And it stinks because Ron Rivera is awesome, and it might look like the rain in Washington. Yeah, he's awesome. I was in awe of his press conference. Yes, yes, he is, he is some of all. Bebel Conway guys. Could have been the Rose Bowl, which I don't know how that ended. I'm going to go Rose Bowl, because Utah one with the throwbacks and the rose on the helmet.

Fuck you, Utah didn't cover in the teaser. Sorry, buddy. Beautiful helmet. I got to go with Jacksonville, though. Packers Vikings, man. I just have a lot of memories. I have a lot of memories. I have a lot of memories good and bad from that stadium.

And every time I see a real. good game and it wasn't even a good game at all but the packers playing well is good for football it's good for america it's good for football fans sound like you have uh stockholm syndrome i do i do i do right no doubt about it aaron rogers he's not so bad he could abduct me yeah okay so uh what about you oh nineers fucking raiders man i you know i love i love the death star there i you know i think it looks beautiful on tv even for being indoor football shows well two classes uniform and it's the bay area i don't care if you're moving to vegas yeah i see i see i see oakland that fucking baseball field where you're afraid to hit the ground and skin your arm

up because it around the 40 and then i see candlestick like that's what i think about when i think about those two teams old school franchises that look great on on the field i'll mention baltimore pittsburgh i will go rose gorgeous uh and uh a shout out to tennessee and clemson for doing the best possible combo. It was in the Bahamas. They don't have college football. The home Tennessee's, the home for Tennessee, and Clemson had the choice,

but they went road, orange, white orange. A lot of orange, Tennessee. Good to see that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, good to see dabble loss. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What we got? You're sure. Fly on the wall? Sure is part of the plan, though. Um, okay. Fly on the wall. Fly on the fucking wall, huh? Fly on the wall.

Um, who's playing this weekend? That's that, that, that's what I've written down here. The people who are playing this weekend. The schedule makers. No, I want to see, like, I want to see the fucking, uh, I want to see that, that's a good answer by me. A schedule makers. Good.

The lions crowded around the TV or not crowded around the TV. The lion's getting reprimanded by Dan Campbell for looking at their phones. Like, just all those situations playing out. Who's watching the Jumbotron? Are they showing it at home games? Bill telling, did they playing in New England this weekend or in Buffalo? They're playing in Buffalo. Is Sean McDermott telling him not to put the fucking game on the Jumbulls?

Some coaches say that. Yeah, it's weird stuff. So, yeah, that's my fly on the wall. Flying the wall would be the editor in James Cameron's editing room who perhaps or didn't perhaps suggest trying to cut some scenes from the movie. would have loved to have heard Avatar? James Cameron's response.

Avatar? Yeah. Hadn't thought about Avatar all week until now. Some guys like, hey, maybe we could cut that scene out where the kids are just bullying each other. So my viewing party is Mark Lewis and I have no idea who that is.

Can somebody find out who Mark Lewis is? Were you going for Mark Davis by chance? No. Okay. Mark Lewis would have been fun. Yeah. Mark Davis would have been fun. Was Mark Lewis a stab basketball coach?

Here it is. Somebody named Mark Davis. Lewis. Oh yeah. Yeah, it's Mark Lewis. It's a senator. He's fucking, look at him. He's filming the players during the coin toss. He's just got his fucking phone out. Why are we called Mark Lewis, Mark Kelly?

I think the ref called him Mark Lewis, maybe. Oh, Senator Mark Lewis. But also, Mark Kelly. Mark Kelly. He's just like, he looks like every astronaut. That's why I didn't know who he was. Mark Lewis. Yeah. He's married to Gabby Giffords. Yeah. Well, Gabby's the one, she's the honorary coin tosser. So Mark is just there being a fan. She's got the gift of Gab. Okay. Let's get this

plane landed, guys. Give us the game ball. Game ball. It's going to be Tom Brady. No, no, no, no. You did it. You did it. Game ball, Tom Brady. Okay. Game ball, Daniel Jones. It was Indy and Indy might not be playing so hard at the moment, but DJ went 19 to 24, 91. Read that boy up. 91 on the ground. two total touchdowns. I think you sign him before you signed Sequin. Listen, if he didn't wear L.L. B. Out of the fucking draft and look like he manages your money, people would be all over him as like the next big thing in New York.

He's exceeded expectations. He's improved almost every year. And it feels like as long as Brian Daibles there, if this is his floor, like he's a dual threat fucking quarterback that's out there. throwing the ball to Darius Slayton and three guys I've never heard of. Richie James. Yeah, I mean,

he's doing a good job. That guy's always open for some reason. Yeah, he is. I don't always catch it. What we got, game ball? Patrick Mahomes, he beat Denver for the untieenth time, never lost to them. This weekend, Mahomes joined Drew Breeze and Rare Company

throwing for 5,000 yards and 40 touchdowns. It's his second time achieving this stat. The other was in 2018. did it in 11 and 12 game ball Patrick and again making it happen with a bunch of guys that without yeah Tyriegel and last mention Estill memorial Frank Gore award oh I see a steel memorial I can't give it to Deshawn Watson because LeBron already uh LeBron's watching how could he you know did you see this yeah he's playing madden with Kirk cousins and watching the Browns a fucking weird weird fandom uh LeBron he was all excited because

Deshawn's getting his rhythm back Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I don't have an STL Memorial. STL Memorial. What even is that? Okay. He doesn't.

He's underappreciated. Yeah. People talk about all these smart coaches. No, you're right. I'm like, Matt LaFleffor's the shit. You're right. Yeah. Yeah, he's kind of cool too.

Yeah. The hatred's built in when you're the coach of the Packers. DJ Moore. He's a really good receiver. He is really good. 117 yards touchdown. Carolina won't be going to the playoffs, but he's a really good player. Oh, Sam Darnold while we're at it.

There you go. Fricishly athletic. Guy threw a pick or two, but he made some nice place. He might have made himself a little money at the end of that. I don't mean he's going to be a fucking, you know, $100 million guy, but I do mean he's going to have a job. I don't know if it's going to be a starting job. People are going to talk about them all offseason.

I'm getting, yeah, big bread. Open competition. Yeah. I think that's everything, guys. That was fun. Yeah, a lot of fun. Hey, take care. Great job.

Take care of your family.