Green Light with Chris Long - NFL WK6 Reactions! Eagles Win, Lamar Runs Past Commanders & the Lions PUNISH the Cowboys!

Episode Date: October 14, 2024

Chris, Dr. Fax and Beau recap the NFL's week 6 matchups and react to the best performances, the wild plays and the coaching gaffes. Jayden Daniels and Lamar Jackson headlined the 1 pm matchups in the ...WK6 slate with a dazzling show on offense. Washington's defense couldn't slow down Baltimore but Lamar gave Jayden Daniels a shoutout postgame. In the 4 pm window, the Detroit Lions beat the brakes off the Dallas Cowboys on Jerry Jones' birthday. Dan Campbell and co did whatever they wanted including getting their offensive lineman the ball in space but the referees had other ideas. The Philadelphia Eagles also took the win vs the Cleveland Browns, albeit an ugly win. Nick Sirianni didn't gain any fans in Philly with how he interacted with the crowd as the game wrapped up. We preview the MNF matchup between the Buffalo Bills and New York Jets and hit on our BetMGM Moments. (00:00) - Intro (6:15) - Cincinnati Bengals at New York Giants on SNF (15:45) - Baltimore Ravens at Washington Commanders (32:30) - LA Chargers at Denver Broncos (44:30) - Detroit Lions at Dallas Cowboys (57:50) - Arizona Cardinals at Green Bay Packers (1:07:00) - Chicago Bears vs Jacksonville Jaguars (1:16:00) - Houston Texans at New England (1:21:50) - Tampa Bay Buccaneers at New Orleans Saints (1:32:40) - Cleveland Browns at Philadelphia Eagles (1:52:50) - Pittsburgh Steelers at Las Vegas Raiders (2:12:00) - Indianapolis Colts at Tennessee Titans (2:21:30) - Atlanta Falcons at Carolina Panthers (2:24:50) - BetMGM Moments Want your Green Light Merch so you can look exactly like Chris and the fellas? Hit the website below and get kitted! https://stores.kotisdesign.com/yotehouse/products Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪(202) 991-0723‬ Send any Talent Search submissions to: social@chalkmedia.com Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgxWFAA-wuB7osdiAJyLOcw Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And so, you know, like the main point I want to make is I like agro-fangio. I like aggressive Fangio. I like that they came out of the biweek. And part of this is probably the Browns. But part of it to me is like, hey, I've seen what I have up front. Let's be more aggressive. Let's blitz more. 45% of the day yesterday, 30% on the year.
Starting point is 00:00:21 So there's an uptick. Maybe part of that's the Browns. But a ton of man coverage. Cooper DeGene, moving to slot corner. We talked about it. We called for it on inside the NFL. a couple weeks ago and they did it, and you can use them as a blitzer. Welcome to the Greenlight podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Hey, thanks for jumping in for the NFL week six live reactions. Chris Bow and Nate rip around the NFL after week six, recapping all the best games, all the action, all the viral moments to deliver to you. Joe Burrow and the Bengals get to add one to the win column after their Sunday night football win over the Giants. A couple statements in the AFC, Baltimore over Washington. Both quarterbacks play great Washington's defense. just couldn't keep up. The Chargers stomped on the Broncos. They dominated all game until late.
Starting point is 00:01:08 The NFC North is dominant. Detroit beat Dallas. Green Bay beat Arizona. Chicago went to London and beat the Braves off Jacksonville. A couple of rookie quarterbacks in action, both taking an L. Drake May lost to Houston and C.J. Stroud. While Spencer Rattler lost to Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Bucks. We obviously talk Cleveland, Philly, and then we run through the best of the rest. Hit our BETMGM moments and have a blast. Thanks for tuning in. Appreciate you all. Make sure you come back on Wednesday for another riper in the NFL from Chris. We'll see you then. Dallas, hello. Hello.
Starting point is 00:02:09 That's got multiple meanings. You're, Jerry was walking to the locker room with a purpose last night. He had tape measure in his back pocket. Did you see? Everybody on the wall, ruler. You press the ruler against the pubic bone. You press it in. What was that?
Starting point is 00:02:31 that Jerry welcome to the show welcome to the show somebody's going to get mad at me I'm not the one talking about my employees benuses let me get in the let me get in the chat so I can see every see everybody smiling faces in their comments welcome to the show we got beau we got dr. fax we got cowboy read and and nolan on the couch on the casting couch and our today's show brought to you by BEDMGM and every show. Yeah, yeah, and some people are going to notice that there aren't, there's not a desk. I don't, I don't want a desk anymore. I just don't. And some people said last week, bring the, bring the desk back. The new setup's got to go. No, it doesn't. You make a decision. You don't like the show without the desk. I'm sorry, but I love the show
Starting point is 00:03:20 without the desk. It's airy in here. I got direct sight lines with everybody. It's nice to walk around. like in the footstool. Shout out to Loseac. Love sack. All right. And shout out to BetMGM. As you know, we've teamed up with BetMGM. We'll be using BetMGM lines to make all our picks and we'll have special offers for you listeners
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Starting point is 00:04:02 If your bet loses, just make sure you use bonus code green light when you sign up. Welcome to the show, everybody. Bo, you look good, man. You look mysterious, shadowy. Thanks, dude. I'm in the shadow realm. I'm in shambles, bro.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I'm just out here grinding. No power, no AC. It's tough. It's tough in these streets, but I'm ready. I'm ready to report. I'm excited to talk some football with you. Chris. I'm happy to see Dr. Fax's legs without the desk. It's good day. Yeah, the Bucks didn't do all that
Starting point is 00:04:31 complaining about the hurricane. They just went out and hung 51 on the Saints. You know, you are fighting through some some serious issues. And I want to shout out Bo for getting on the show. I know he was- I did by modern amenities and conveniences, Chris. I'm nothing without them. What is the blue light? You know, that's just, that's just the blue light. I don't know. I'm in a vibey little podcast studio and Hyde Park Village. Oh, so you went to a studio. Yeah. I don't have power, brother.
Starting point is 00:05:02 That's why you got a mic and everything that works. Let me take off this NFL on Fox. You know, a hoodie, nothing against the NFL on Fox. They got a great show. But this is green light. I don't see my dad advertising for our fucking show on his show. All right? We're blue light over here, man.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Yeah, you are blue light. You got a blue light. Guys, overall, like, honestly, not the, best day of football the 4 pms the biggest game was a blowout and then you had the sunday night game which you know we'll talk about that in a couple seconds here you know bangle's not cooked you don't think so oh i don't think so just because just because a win hold it hold your horses we'll get there just because a loss they were cooked now just because of win they're cooked bro they barely beat a terrible giants bro you can't be convinced just wait for
Starting point is 00:05:55 we'll get into it. Just wait, we'll get into it. Hey, I've been consistent. Do the math. They got a chance to be 500 when they play. Well, if the Eagles have anything to do it, we'll talk about the Eagles in a little bit. I'm not going to pull any punches.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Sunday night football. Am I missing anything else before we get into Sunday night football? Now let's talk Sunday night. Covering Chase Brown. How about Chase Brown with the cover? What a moment. Beautiful. I mean, thank God the day was capped off with that.
Starting point is 00:06:25 thing. I think it was a three-point game at the end there and trying to ice the game and Chase comes in. And you know, you're thinking at that point, like they're going to kneel a lot of people that had the Bengals minus four. We're going to lose the bet. Some people that had a money line minus three minus four like me. We're going to lose some of your bets. Some of your bets were going to push. But Chase Brown, who really ran his ass off last night. And I like, I like the look of having him in the game plan. I don't know. Dan Jones in prime time. This one seemed pretty easy for me.
Starting point is 00:06:59 What's his record now in prime time? Is it one in, and, uh, one in 20 or something? It's one in 14. One in 14 in private time games and Brian Dable is two and seven. That's the worst winning percentage by a quarterback in any, uh, in prime time since it's not good. And they keep putting them in these prime time games because they're giants.
Starting point is 00:07:21 You know, back in the day, team like the Rams, the team I was on, we weren't any good, but they didn't put us in prime time. So they at least spared us the embarrassment because we're in a New York market team. This team can't, they just can't escape it. And I hate that. Before we get to the Bengals, I, hey, Bo, Nate, what do you think about this? Dexter
Starting point is 00:07:39 Lawrence as a DPOI candidate. Is that a legit thing? Are we trying to make something on nothing? Let's make something out of it. We're esteemed media members, dude. Let's get the ball rolling right here. DPOI, the people's DPOI. The people's DECC. Dexie. Dexie.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Ricking shop. I had Nolan. Probably the only bright spot for the Giants right now. I said, yo, find out what it's going to take. The defensive tackles who have won at Aaron Donald, 2017. How many sacks did he have? 2000. I'll get there.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Okay. 2018 and 2018 and 2018. In 2017, he had 11 sacks, 15 TFL's five force fumbles. In 2018, he had 20 and a half sacks. Damn. We're just flirting with the damn sack record. like 25 tfls four force fumbles in 2020 he had 13 and half sacks 14 tfels and four force fumbles now before i get to the the main thing here like i think there is with erin donald a sense of like look at
Starting point is 00:08:38 everything we have to do to work around him and offenses are acutely aware of that even in a way that you and i at home are not aware of like the entire week leading up to the game is how do we get this guy block well it might be the same thing with dexter lawrence not to the same degree but here's where erin's but here's where those were those winning teams does that matter for d p o why i think it might matter like it matters like when i think it matters okay i almost think it should work the other way though if you have dexter lawrence exactly that's what's doing this rosby back yeah uh bad teams people people don't and you know not having the leads not being in opportune situations but here's the biggest difference. Over those three years that he won defensive player of the year, let me do the quick
Starting point is 00:09:24 math here, 1721, 321 pressures over a three year span. So where Dexter Lawrence is right now is, where do we have him? Dexter Lawrence is on pace for 68 pressures, 19 and a half sacks, 14.2 TFL. So obviously you can't get 14.2 TFLs and 19.8 sacks, but you get the idea. If the guy's flirting with 20 sacks in a year that the, you know, Aiden Hutchinson, we'll talk about that in a little bit, like absolutely tragic. Tragic. Just absolutely tragic. And that guy was having a DPOI type year. To keep that pace would have been, would have been tough.
Starting point is 00:10:02 We've seen other guys who have been on pace to break the sack record and this, that, and the third. The season has ebbs and flows. And the same thing for Dexter Lawrence. But in a year where I'm not quite sure who the DPOI candidate is, to the degree. where I'm like, hey, if Xavier McKinney has 15, 10, 12, 13 picks, is it a DB? Is it a defensive tackle? T.J. Watt is the big favorite currently. T.J. probably the favorite. But I think if T.J. had, what's he on pace for? I mean, yesterday, you watch those force fumbles and you're like,
Starting point is 00:10:37 this guy, it's not just the sacks. It's everything. It's everything. If T.J. doesn't win it, though, here's a guy. Here's a guy. that's putting his name on the list. Now, I thought Brian Burns played his ass off, and I think O'Jolari played his ass off. Those guys played really well. Bengals' offensive line, not their best day. Mims had trouble sorting games,
Starting point is 00:11:01 laid out of his stance once or twice. But I thought, like, the Bengals, to your point, Nate, were you saying this is evidence that they're washed? I think this is just what they needed. They got some of the guys back up front on defense, and they won a gutsy, low-scoring game. I mean, you can't win with you. I'm just saying, why you, gutsy against the Giants?
Starting point is 00:11:22 You see how they're playing? They're playing, like someone controlling Madden. They took, going forward on every fourth down. They're a desperate, terrible team. And it's just like, that's not impressive beating them. And I just feel like they struggle. No one said it's impressive. But it might be what they need.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Oh, interesting. And I think next week it'll be a, it'll be a big shock. Once you slow down and feel, figure out what I'm actually saying. No,
Starting point is 00:11:48 I hear you. I hear you. He's simply saying that they're not cooked. No, no, no, no, no, I still think they're cooked.
Starting point is 00:11:56 They're not dead. You might think they're cooked and that's fine. That's your totally, I mean, we're going to do this every week with the Bengals until they're 500 in a couple weeks. No, because they're one loss away,
Starting point is 00:12:05 like to one of these upcoming teams, maybe it's the Browns where you're going to be like, damn, maybe they are cooked. Like, and it's coming. It's coming soon.
Starting point is 00:12:14 It's coming soon. All I'm saying is last, night this might be what the doctor ordered and winning a low scoring game for a for a team that could not play defense the entire of the year it's it's daniel jones it is daniel jones in prime time and they're missing neighbors and they're missing uh they're missing singletary so listen we're not we're not passing out uh awards after the game but what you are saying is this is a game that you absolutely had to win and uh if we're judging on how the win occurred then we can't squarely put them in the shitter because they lost to the Chiefs
Starting point is 00:12:47 or lost to the Ravens in games that were this close. You know what I'm saying? If we're judging the Bengals performance off of how the tape looked, then we need to give them their props for playing with two of the best teams in the league and say, hey, if they can put these together and put themselves in a position where they can be competitive in December, DJ Turner really made up for that penalty in the end zone. That fourth and two play was great.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Kept his right arm out of it, launched. So many guys get penalties in that situation. I thought that was a great play. And then Burrow running 47 yards into the end zone for the only touchdown of the game for the first hour and a half. And then that too, what about it? Your quarterback being your leading rusher, you can't win like that. I love it. You can't.
Starting point is 00:13:32 That is not true. Like, I mean, they can't. They can't. The Bengals are not, they're not the bills. They're not the bills. They're not the bills. They're not the Raven. They cannot sustain.
Starting point is 00:13:45 wins to make it to the playoff if Joe Burrow is going to be their leading rusher with 54 yards. Good thing he hasn't had to be every week. And they've been having L's. Like, so it's just, I don't know. Like, I just don't see how you're impressed. You said it, brother. I don't know with that. You said it.
Starting point is 00:14:04 You said it. Listen, this is just a start for them. If they want to get back on the right track, they've got to win some more games. And that's the bottom line. It's learning how to win games. That's why you come away from you're like, hey, in the fourth quarter, when it's a one score game and you're like, fuck, how do we get here with the Giants
Starting point is 00:14:19 who aren't as bad as people think, right? They're not. Well, they're not, but they're cooked too. It's a horrible team and a horrible family. No, but bro, they don't have their star players. That's what I mean. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:14:31 You're right. You're right about that. They're playing with guys that no one can know. It's the NFL, though. It's the NFL. As you three know. You guys know this, how hard it is to win the NFL.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Absolutely. Yeah. So, you know, for a team that. I would take an ugly win over the Giants over an ugly win over the Browns. I'm going to glaze a few teams today that beat bad teams. And it's just the way it's going to go.
Starting point is 00:14:52 I mean, it's hard to win games in the NFL. But that was an ugly game. And not one that, you know, it was a lot of fun to watch late in the evening when you've been through so many better games. Shout out Tyrone Tracy. Tracey. Rookie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:09 He steps in, has a big game. Has the Giants first touchdown at home in almost 11 quarters. No, I mean, that's a bad stat. Yeah. Like, that's a bad stat. Like, that's a stat you don't share if you're giants. Like, Giants media should not be sharing that stat. The PR team should not be sharing that stat.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Hey, did you get that stat in about how is the first? Keep that in ass. There's some bad stats. So anyways, the biggest statement, there were some statements today. I thought two teams in the AFC made big statement. number one statement, Baltimore. Like, we're going to be here. We're going to be here.
Starting point is 00:15:52 It's kind of what you expected. We added a big truck and we put him in our backfield. And all of a sudden, and here's the thing, like Keaton Mitchell's not back yet. Like, they could be better when he gets back. That's the scary thing. And I think for teams that can't stop the run, it's terrifying. It was like an entire. Now, Lamar made a lot of plays, beat the blitz all day.
Starting point is 00:16:14 but for them to just be able to run the ball at will at will and it felt like they just took the box count Beau and they were like hey if I don't like the box count inside this is the one thing about Derek Henry that I think people under state is how effective he is on the perimeter
Starting point is 00:16:34 and in a game like this where it's like for a lot of teams we're going to load the box and make a decision we hear that all the time make them one dimensional it is not a decision when you play the Ravens because you still have to do it. He ran for 93 yards against heavy boxes, eight-man boxes. That's scary.
Starting point is 00:16:50 And when you have an MVP candidate in the backfield and guys on defense that seem to take this game personally to say, hey, we respect the fuck out of Jaden Daniels. At the end of the game, Lamar says, I need that jersey. Like, we respect this kid and we'll give him his flowers. Nozay, who, by the way, shredded man coverage all day. But the point is, in this game,
Starting point is 00:17:11 it felt like the defense, every great play that the commanders made, they were tightly contested throws, tightly contested plays. And on the perimeter, early in that game, those guys were flying downhill. And I thought the Ravens came ready to play.
Starting point is 00:17:26 We can talk about the commanders in a second. I want to give the Ravens their props because this looks like the class of the AFC right now. Now, for a long time last year, they looked like the class of the AFC as well. And then in the playoffs, they didn't. And that's been a pattern with this team. So as good as they're playing right now,
Starting point is 00:17:42 they have to keep in mind that we are playing for January. Everything we do has to be about what are we going to look like in January. And hopefully they'll stick to the run because that's what happened to them last year. No question. We fell in love with this running Baltimore team and them pounding the rock and then they get into the playoffs. And it's like, oh, we have a secret game plan that no one knows about. And everyone's like, what, like, what are you doing? We don't want the secret menu?
Starting point is 00:18:06 Yeah, like, no, like what? This is not what we signed up for. Yeah, no, no. And just to see them doing what everyone expected they would do with getting Derek Henry, it's scary. And for teams week by week to watch tape and knowing you have to face that backfield, there's only so much you can do to prepare. But just Derek Henry himself, like you have to actually, what, like get punched in the mouth to really feel it. Well, you have to, you have to commit to, I thought Cincinnati for a lot of the game last week did a pretty good job. It can be done and that's another thing we're talking about the Ravens and we are so week to week
Starting point is 00:18:46 On this show in in the NFL I mean look at us it's October 14th every week we've had a different This is the team this year we've had a different you know it's over for this group and look at the saints a month ago we were saying I think they're real Yeah you know it's you just never know now now this group is different because they're here year after year and the thing that that that held them back last year in the playoffs they seem to have gone out and said you know what we're never going to do that again and and it's a good look surprise surprise it's a good look for them and the tight ends are a good look for them you know andrews drop yeah it was nice for them to get andrews going though i mean he yeah played pretty well besides that he had a touchdown in what 66 yards or something like that like he's been everyone's been kind of wait for him to get
Starting point is 00:19:33 going yeah dude i don't think like we all talk about the ravens in their run game their o line is fucking good i like their o line a lot and that young center is good too what's the name linderbom linder linderbond i'll good buffered buffered buffered they call him buffered he looks like that's a cartoon well no it's buford but the guys in the raven's locker room call him buffered because they don't actually watch phineas and fernius and fur so they're just googling the guy he looks exactly like he looks like spawn of howie long he looks like if howie long had a son that became a state trooper that's honestly what Linderbaum It's not too late for that Chris
Starting point is 00:20:12 It is probably too late for that Although I do love to sit in my car You look like it's I love to sit in my car You look like if you had a A big bucket hat Yeah Oh and I'll be so cool I'd be so cool
Starting point is 00:20:25 I'm giving you 10 miles an hour I'm giving you 10 miles an hour But what we're not going to do I'll be handcuffing people For not returning their shopping carts and shit Oh my God Okay let's not get into that right now you let's not get into that right now cartnark what cartnark what is that oh cartnark i've seen the
Starting point is 00:20:42 guy he's like a big guy yeah yeah no he just leans on people when they don't oh it's just this small white guy oh well they i've seen a guy who's like on steroids and and he will he will walk you down in the cartnark he he slingshots these magnets that go to your car that says like i'm a i'm a dodo because i won't return my car i love it and it gets people so pissed on it funny well um i'm gonna put a commander's sticker on your car because we might be we might be going up to watch yeah maybe not probably not at fennx field i'm going to find a different place to you know uh i love watching this kid play thursday night at the link would be great it'll be great but you know like how am i going to hide my jaw on the floor when he makes a couple of those back breaking third down conversions all right so it's
Starting point is 00:21:30 pretty cool two elite quarterbacks Lamar's got a lot of football left to play this kid's got you know eons of football left to play. Sucks their starting running back wasn't playing. No question. They missed Brian Robinson, but I just mean from a 30,000 foot view standpoint, and really yesterday, there was a lot of good rookie quarterback play that lets you know. We've seen a lot this season. They're like, the Lee's going to be okay. You know, we're 12 touchdowns by rookie QBs most of her in a weekend. And so, you know, like, we're going to get to each game and the different context within, you know, that all those touchdowns were thrown. But I just think, Jaden Daniels and Lamar Jackson within 100 miles of each other for the next 10 years,
Starting point is 00:22:12 hopefully, is going to be a lot of fun. And in the rare circumstance, when they play each other, it's going to be a fun little rivalry. And I thought it was cool to see Lamar at the end of the game giving him his props. I need that jersey. Lamar's so secure in himself. I just love the way he is. Yeah, that's cool. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:31 It's really cool. Not that you wouldn't give that guy props. Multiple guys giving Jaden Daniels props. because the pros see it. He deserves it, man. And he's a pro. He's like one of those rookies that comes in and you're like, that's a good rookie. Like I wish every fucking young player would act this way because he's humble.
Starting point is 00:22:46 He's playing great. He's making great decisions. He's such a likable guy, man. And it's cool. I mean, yeah, I don't even know him and I like him. He could be a total asshole, honestly. And I like him. But they did miss Robinson.
Starting point is 00:22:58 And I like what I like what Nate Burleson said on CBS. He was like, listen, publicly. when you got a microphone in your face after the game, fans sometimes don't want to hear it, and the media certainly sometimes doesn't want to hear it, but I think this might be an extenuating circumstance to say like, hey, that's a win for us. A moral victory.
Starting point is 00:23:18 You know, obviously you want to win that game, and at the end of it, you're like, man, as you picture a win like that leading up to us, like, what if we could pull this off? How sweet would that be? But there's still a way for that trip to be gratifying. and I think for me it's it's the two drives it's the drive early in the game when I thought cliff actually threw through the kitchen sink at him a lot of window dressing preparing for this offense it's
Starting point is 00:23:46 obviously the the score late to get it to one score like it's obviously that that drive it's obviously sneak in or it's behind two red zone third and mediums or longs that's really tough the field gets constricted that's a really quick group fast group. They kept you under pressure all day long. 98 for the Ravens just keeps kicking people's asses Jones. Yep, Travis Jones. You know, Van Nuys been a force. That's a meatball, dude. Travis Jones is a meatball. I love that guy. He's strong as hell. He's a meatball. He's super strong. And then, you know, they bring it in Gokway. He's got a sack. So this group was humming. And like I said, everything was tight window. Everything that Jaden Daniels got here. And, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:29 from the third down in the red zone on that drive where he snuck Ertz behind Roquan Smith. That was an incredible. You liked the fourth down against Cincinnati to McCaffrey where he's playing games with Pratt. This was a beautiful throw in a tight area of the field. And then the fourth down, when he lets that ball go to McLaurin,
Starting point is 00:24:53 the thing they have five, six games into their career together is special. when he lets that ball go McClorin's here and he's pressing that corner and then when he catches the ball he's at the pylon it's just there's an innate understanding of each other
Starting point is 00:25:09 that I think exists with these two it's going to be a lot of fun for a long time and then the other drive I loved was you got that tight window throwing third down to McLaren on the sideline you got the throwback screen which was like a crazy design
Starting point is 00:25:23 they're an eye-near pistol basically and they hand the ball to the running back He pitches it back to Jaden Daniels. What I like about that, too, is he mishandled that ball, but calmly got it together and got the ball off. Super calm. And it doesn't look like a rookie. The play starts with, it's just a creative design
Starting point is 00:25:41 where the play starts with Echler, whoever got the ball started as a blocker. And then the other back comes over and finishes the job, and they dump it off to Echler. And then they're faking a pop screen and on the same play hitting the tunnel. And then the drive culminates in Jaden Daniels' red zone, patience to McLaurin. The pump,
Starting point is 00:25:59 pull the underneath the fender up, calmly deliver a ball to the opposite pylon. They're a pro offense. They're like immediately a pro offense, and that's a very good defense that they walked down a few times on the road and earned everything. Why isn't Adams there yet?
Starting point is 00:26:15 I've been asking this question. I think you come out of this game and you say, hey, we need something. You know, and maybe it is defense because the offense isn't broke, so maybe don't fix it. You just walked into Baltimore and scored 23 points without Brian Robinson, which hurts you in the red zone in other areas. You were able to run the ball at times. The screens were working. The conversions were there.
Starting point is 00:26:37 They won a couple third and mediums back in plus territory. If you go back and look at that game, I promise you, you look at some third mediums, like kind of at 35, 40 yard line where it's like, what are you trying to do here? Do you want to come away with three or do you want to spot them a possession and they're already up a possession? Like I thought they could have done a little bit different on some of those third mediums. But I think you come out of this game and say, hey, if at the end of the game we're saying, hey, we really miss Dorrance Armstrong,
Starting point is 00:27:01 who I think is a really good player for them. But like if you're coming out of that game and saying, man, if we'd have just had Doran's Armstrong for 60 minutes, because I thought that in some situations. Yeah. Maybe you don't have to blitz as much. Didn't Jonathan Allen get hurt too?
Starting point is 00:27:15 Alan. I thought I said I ate a peck injury or something like that. But the point to me is if you're looking at your edges and you're saying, hey, that's a key player for us. and he should be a key player, but he's probably not ideally your number one out on the edge. You know, and I know Fowler can rush,
Starting point is 00:27:31 but there are a lot of found pieces out there. I think they could go find one more. And you know what? Nolan brought this up. We were, because of the Hutchinson thing, ironic maybe, that the Hutchinson injury might spur somebody
Starting point is 00:27:46 to look at a guy like Trayvon Walker. But for these teams that need edges, you know, we've thrown out Max Cross, but we've thrown out Miles Garrett. These are like Fantasyland. Like, you've got to send a bunch for these guys. There are guys like Carl Granderson in New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:28:02 There are guys like Trayvon Walker, still in a rookie deal and playing his ass off that I think maybe you could go get. Don't try to take my record. Well, you know what? He ain't rushing for much down there. Yeah. Because it's just, I mean, Josh Allen's been paid. We brought up Josh Allen last night,
Starting point is 00:28:19 but like the contract is. Josh Hines Allen? Joshua Hines Allen. Yeah, because for them. You know, this defense, I think, feels similar to the Texans last year, like a group that is kind of playing above its weight in certain spots. And, yeah, you think about, like, the move the Bears made in the deadline last year, if you add a Monta sweat.
Starting point is 00:28:38 To sweat. You get that effect, sweat effect. Who knows? The defense could really be elevated. You have a great play caller there in Washington already. So whether it's a Walker, maybe it's a Parsons. There's another guy that came up. It's like it's right under our noses.
Starting point is 00:28:53 I don't know that Parsons would ever be traded in division, but if he were to be traded in division, I know two teams that would be very interested in Michael Parsons. Yep. Okay. So there are a lot of like, there are a lot of teams out there that, you know, haven't decided whether they're sellers or not yet. Some things are going to be cleared up over the next couple weeks. And I just look at this team and I'm like, hey, rookie deal, you never want to waste a minute of that window.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Right. You know, you've got this kid on a rookie deal in five years, four years. he's going to cost, he's going to be like baseball money. Yep. You know, so, yeah, it's going to be Otani money. How happy are you if you're Terry McLoran and you're finally getting balls from, you know, he caught passes from, Nate, he caught passes from the balls. He's had a ball.
Starting point is 00:29:44 He caught passes from like the NFL's entire second string quarterback, like everybody on the second string for the past five years. No question. to this eat like how happy are you oh he's got to be ecstatic you think about like any player that's played in the NFL knows that context matters we bring this up all the time and like we've all been in situations where you're like hey this is not ideal for me and um nobody gives a fuck like ultimately nobody gives a fuck in 10 12 years when they're reading your production they're not going to say oh mccloren wasn't catching the ball from anybody and that's the that's the thing about
Starting point is 00:30:20 you know, the way we kind of create legacies for players. Like, we really don't bring the context into the equation. And fair, because McLaurin, until we see something like this, it's hard to believe how elite he can be. You know, like, he's looked really elite at times before. But like, he has to cherish it. He'd be dropping passes to me. He's still, I think he's elite, man.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I think with this quarterback, he's elite. He's elite. He don't drop passes. Okay. Where would you? You rank McLaurin? Where would you rank McLaurin? Is he a top 10 receiver?
Starting point is 00:30:56 No, for sure. For sure. So is Tyreek, and I say it all the time. He drops way too many balls. And he's not elite? No, he is, but he drops too many balls for me. Okay. That's my thing. I know, you're old school.
Starting point is 00:31:08 In big spots. You're old school. Especially in big spots. I don't like that. I just think the guys are fucking stud. I think he's a stud, and I'm super happy that he can, you know, like, things could have gone a lot of different ways for him. And I'm sure he's going to look back in five,
Starting point is 00:31:20 seven years, be like the most important day of my life was this kid falling to us. Like, shortfall, but he fell. Like, amazing. Yeah. Protect him at all costs. At all costs, bro. I'm going to stay at every episode. Protect Jayden Daniels at all cost. No question. Everyone in the DMV. Please, please, please.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Another. Yes, put him in that stadium. So you crushed by it. You saw what happened to Jalen Hertz in that fucking stadium? But, bro. But like, now they're going to have the means to fix. it up he has the number one selling jersey they got revenue pumping like it's a process and now it's a process you know look magic johnson he knows how to do this he just needs the funds and they're about to start rolling in with this kid so we're is i'm i'm excited to see what happens with with commanders just hey it's just the beginning for this team this was a real measuring stick for them no jerry
Starting point is 00:32:14 jones so i mean seriously and that's a segue into our next game and i didn't mean to do that but it is like no I really didn't not until I said it is a barometer it's a barometer this is a barometer where are we guys oh we're pretty good like we just hung with the Ravens on the road down B. Robinson before we get to Detroit and Dallas
Starting point is 00:32:34 do you want to give two minutes on God's team oh for sure yeah yeah yeah see it wasn't a segue Jim Harbaugh just laid on the table well I think coming out there and maybe you could start us off Bo and explain what happened with Harbaugh's
Starting point is 00:32:50 ticker because you've had ticker issues yeah so i got a lot of heart chris all right i know harbaugh does too maybe a little too much at times i was reading into this a little bit this is uh unfortunately situation that i'm familiar with i didn't realize that harbaugh has had two ablations okay so what ablation is is they go in through your groin right a catheter up and they shock your heart or they're they kind of like uh burn away these portions of your heart that are causing these electrical impulses that are giving you this irregular heart rate. It's like a whole fucking thing, man. So the fact that he's had two of them is kind of wild to me.
Starting point is 00:33:25 But basically, he had atrial flutter, which I had as well. And that just means that you have a super high irregular heart rate. And so he kind of, he was joking after the game, which I thought was amazing. He's like, I'm two and oh with arrhythmias. Yeah, that was the most football guy quote ever. Such a perfect Harbaugh quote. It's like he doesn't give a fuck. he cares about is that like they got to win you know sure somebody's doing a little segment on that today
Starting point is 00:33:51 it's so good though like um who would you like if you're gonna have a coach have a situation like that come up it's got to be harbaugh you know what i mean because no question rolls with it it's like he's he's incredible um it's the most horrible thing that happened oh my heart stopped in the first half i just had to go and get sorted out and then go back i had to go shock that shock that shit real quick in the locker room now i'm back back on the sideline uh but no i mean as our resident cardiologist here on Greenlight Pod. I'm happy to answer any questions about that. But like what I'm assuming they did is they probably just mainline him.
Starting point is 00:34:24 I think he said it was magnesium and like electrolytes. There's a lot of what happens is like some of these, if you have a history, like a genetic predisposition to having these arrhythmias, a lot of it is kind of like hydration based, which is kind of interesting. Like it seems like such a fucking basic thing. Yeah. Water. It sounds like.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Yeah, exactly. It sounds like they gave him like. you know some magnesium some electrolytes they probably gave them like a little blood thinner some um for all my doctors i wonder oh yeah that's good word dr fax in in in doctor fax dr fact dr fact great uh yeah can i bring my um my intern into the uh doctor's visit so you can take notes and mates the intern and he's like hey what the alms because like i mean there's guys remember like guys if you have like not i i forget what other like condition that like like guys had a member they weren't allowed to play in Denver yeah like oh sick Ryan Clark
Starting point is 00:35:22 yeah oh yeah I don't know if he wasn't allowed to play but he always talked because when I asked Ryan Clark to climb Kelly with me he was like oh fuck no he didn't say fuck because he didn't cuss Ryan really doesn't cuss yeah it's crazy I've got kind of inspiring speaking of the meter right now I'm oh wow that's five tied up yeah I think we're tied bro I'm what with all this happened with Harbaugh, I had I realized I had to take a step back and I had to update my theory about the brothers not being able to win
Starting point is 00:35:54 both week and I think the theory, you're to update the theory. The update the theory is that the brothers they both cannot lose in the week. The same week. They're not going to lose the same week. They're not going to lose the same week. I mean, Harbaugh took a little bit
Starting point is 00:36:10 of an L there medically though, fact. Medical L. But he bounced back. A medical LL but a spiritual w i'll just say this it was really i mean we watched this game you know the first half for sure and as the game trailed off i left that to cowboy reed who just made noise as most of the second half as he does watching the broncos in the four pms but it was a real banner day for for greg roman and for and for uh justin herbert yeah justin herbert played like a top five quarterback yeah he he looked great and i think i think i think greg roman has kind of been flying under the radar at least
Starting point is 00:36:42 at least the chargers offense has they haven't been lighting up the scoreboard You look at the tape, like even going back to the Chiefs and the Steelers game where they were kind of lower scoring, they were executing well. They're running the ball well, and the passing game is really well designed. And that's something that has been a criticism against Greg Roman in the past. It's like he evolved a little bit. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and so Herbert's playing well. Obviously, a lot of white men can't jump talk this week for the Broncos DBs, but Herbert's got a little Sydney Dean and Billy Hoyle of his own.
Starting point is 00:37:16 I like that. I like that. They're looking good. They're the Chargers. Well, you know, you know what? I think this game says a lot is like Pat Sartan is, he's one of the most valuable players in the league. I mean, he goes down early with a concussion, and it's just like, it looks so different.
Starting point is 00:37:32 That doesn't look like the team that did what they did to the Jets, you know, or did what they did to the boxer. Riley Moss said after the game that there was kind of a hangover, a cloud over the team, over the defense, especially. after he went down they were like oh we're not sure he's their security point exactly and the leader on that the leader defense and there's one of the definition of a lock down corner like a true lockdown corner and you realize that when he's not on the field yeah no question this is his little era where like you know it switches from it feels like it switches every couple years like this guy's the the corner this guy's the corner he's the
Starting point is 00:38:08 corner right now he is and he makes a big difference when he's out of the game i mean i'm sure there's things i'm forgetting in this game but like the main thing for me was the main thing for me of seeing what? Oh, Cortland Sutton. Corlund that anytime touchdown. Yes. How great was that? They said he was going to be really mad at me if Corlund didn't score touchdown.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Dude, that was insane. You know what it was? Because at that point, I had the Broncos in a teaser where they were catching 10. So we needed a touchdown to push that teaser. We were all. And I needed it. And it would have washed the under, but that was okay because I would have won one of my bets. and then he would have hit a big parlay.
Starting point is 00:38:47 The whole group was on Cortland Sutton anytime touchdown. Yep. That was awesome. And that was probably their last drive for them to realistically have a chance to score a touchdown unless it be some miracle. And Broncos fans, they don't care. I get it. A loss is a loss.
Starting point is 00:39:03 This is a tough one. I don't know what you do on third down. You know, that's a really tough down for this group. And it's kind of an important one. Well, and it's tough. Like our three losses, Bo Nix is our leading rusher. Our three wins, a running back is our leading rusher. We just don't have, one we don't have.
Starting point is 00:39:20 And as Nate said, can't win with your quarterback. Except for the Broncos have been winning with the quarterback being the leading rusher at time. He's an outlier. He's an outlier. He's an outlier. He's an outlier. But the charger is 25 pressures yesterday.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Yeah, it's a lot. Oil Mac was six. That's a lot. They're like their edges and everybody just kind of feasted on our third string tackle. Does everybody in the chat agree that 25 pressures is a lot? Would you agree that 24 pressures is a lot? Just remember this later in the show. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Okay. That was a statement, though, I think, from the Chargers. I think the Chargers, with their defense and the quarterback that they have, they can play with a lot of teams, man. And I don't know if they expect it to be where they are right now, but like you're looking at a team now that's above 500. and, you know, the Chiefs look, at least in that first game, human, you know, and they've been close to the Chiefs before.
Starting point is 00:40:21 So, you know, it's horseshoes and hand grenades, right? So I think, like, they've got to beat the Chiefs to take that next step, and that's going to be the whole thing. That second meeting with the Chiefs is going to be enormous, because now you look at the AFC West, the Raiders very beatable, right? This Broncos team looks like that's a matchup you don't love. at least for the Broncos offense. You know, that might be a total rock fight the next time they play.
Starting point is 00:40:48 But with Certan down, it wasn't. And then I'm obviously forgetting one AFC West team here, the Raiders. The Raiders. Well, I already said they're a beatable team. So you look at the Broncos and the Raiders. You've got to feel like you can compete with these two teams. You maybe match up well with the Broncos. Chiefs are 5 and O, but you could see them again.
Starting point is 00:41:08 And you could be in a position where you could, you know, you could be pushing for the top of this division. That's the way they got to think. And I think the Greg Roman thing is really gratifying. To make that hire, a lot of people were like, why would you hire a guy like this when you've got a quarterback like this? Well, maybe this is just what he needed. And maybe this isn't what the offense looks like,
Starting point is 00:41:30 because fully formed it might look totally different. They threw the ball like 11 times in the first quarter. Yes, sir. Could you imagine that a couple weeks ago? So just let them do their thing and figure out who they want to be. and the floor is high with this group. Statement, statement win. Hey, and for the Broncos,
Starting point is 00:41:50 to count this as a statement win when you're playing the Broncos, is this, I know you don't want to hear this, but it's like a backhanded compliment. No, it is. I mean, we're three and two. Who expected us to be? We were three and two coming into this game.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Who expected that? And while Bo Nix had a tough first three quarters, that fourth quarter, again, you take really good things out of that. And what a terrible week to play on Thursday for the Broncos. because I mean, we're probably not going to get certain back. Oh, I think it's a good week. We won't have a lot.
Starting point is 00:42:19 It's Sean Peyton in the homecoming yet. Yeah. And we won't have a wound. Oh, yeah. Because he's out. And the rookie. So we'll get, we'll get there. But that's going to be a big, that's going to be a big, you know, thing Thursday night.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Yeah. The return of Sean Payton. Yep. Maybe, maybe burying his old D.C. Oh. Yeah, honestly. You believe in that? Revenge.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Well, I don't know who he's getting. getting revenge for or about. You know what I mean? I think he's just like maybe everything that Dennis Allen ever annoyed him. Like, you know how like people just, even your friends, they have things that, you know, they annoy you. Yeah. Like, you know, everybody in the studio, I like you all, there's something that you annoy me about and it's the same way in a circle. They've been, go through each one right now, Chris. Okay. Matt leaves early every day. he like leaves in the middle of the 4 p.ms. He's like all right guys see you later.
Starting point is 00:43:17 I have a life you guys don't. Meanwhile they're like fathers and husbands and firefighters in the room. There's no firefighters. I was just supposed to be. Reed he says sorry when he doesn't do anything wrong. It's fucking ridiculous. Reid'll call you up and say sorry first thing you hear from him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Hey, cowboy, what's up? Oh, sorry. Sorry for calling me. I haven't figured out what tanner. what Tanner does to annoy me yet. Nate, you know what you do to annoy me. That's your whole thing. Nate annoys you. That's what he annoys. Yeah. The only thing that annoys me about Nolan is he hates good-looking uniforms. He thinks ugly uniforms are good-looking. That's right. Yeah. You know, but I got to say, man, thank you Texans for sending me this jersey. I'm a big fan of this jersey.
Starting point is 00:44:03 I've always liked this city edition of your jersey, always from day one. Okay. The next game and the one the x-fel third day hey listen who's number 24 what oh yeah it's 224 bro so wait are you using my joke you recycling my joke and trying to turn it on me it's almost like he's annoying you it's almost like he's trying to it's almost like he's trying it's almost like he's trying okay there was a moment and for eagles fans i'm just going to tell you you you just going to have to wait a little bit until i talk about the game you ain't special i'm just telling you you don't get after a game like that, I'm not going to put the Eagles up front. Okay. I love you all. But, you know, people are going to call me a homer if we break that game down first. But you might enjoy this next
Starting point is 00:44:53 breakdown because the Dallas Cowboys absolutely shit down their leg in a big spot. Predictably. I haven't felt this good about a game. Honestly, as a better, just as an aside, and definitely not a Detroit game since they played the Chargers a couple years ago. Or maybe it was last year. Whatever it was, I was like, Chargers are not going to stop these guys. Dallas wasn't going to get a stop. And Dallas couldn't move the ball.
Starting point is 00:45:17 There is an image that is going to be burnt into my brain forever. It is a woman in a Dak Prescott jersey, hands and knees, somebody holding her hair, projectile vomiting, onto the concourse. And there's a guy in a David Montgomery jersey,
Starting point is 00:45:34 gritting past her. That is, that is Jerry Jones on his birthday on his 82nd birthday got to watch the Detroit Lions dribbling the Cowboys heads into the turf like basketballs for 60 minutes and the culmination of it all for me was let's put this big ass sunset into the equation when we designed this stadium it's going to be awesome it's going to be the brightest sunset ever and I'm going to have my franchise quarterback there's the young lady puking Gritty all over her white boots
Starting point is 00:46:10 This guy's gritty He can probably smell that This is how stadium videos like that Oh there's even a Dak Prescott kid The kid The cowboy fan was like It's so cool to gritty I'm a gritty owner Yeah
Starting point is 00:46:23 Let me get my gritty in There's a kid gritty dude That's insane dude The most insane The last image for me of the game Was Dak Prescott throwing Into the sun Throwing an interception into the sun
Starting point is 00:46:37 So let Jerry Jones I want the brightest sunset I want I want a blind Cedric Tillman I want to I want a blind Jalen Tolbert I want my franchise quarterback to throw the ball into triple coverage at the end of a game
Starting point is 00:46:52 I want people to be like holy shit What a cool feature on a stadium But the best thing about it was the start of it Because the Cowboys were actually driving And then Dak throws that pick in the end zone And then it was just downhill for me That was a great play by Brian Great play.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Granch coming out. And he, just the play before, I think he had missed something in the opposite flat and him and I think it was, I forget who it was, was like, hey, I need you here. And they were on each other. And then the very next play, Branch bailing out of the flat to make that play in like Dak's second pick in the end zone, basically the same spot two weeks. Yep. C.D. Lamb, that thing's not looking real kosher with those two.
Starting point is 00:47:33 through four games this season Brian Branch 28 tackles nine pass breakups three picks two tackles for a loss and a forced fumble but Tom Tom Brady said it you said it yesterday more importantly you said it look at how hard the backups
Starting point is 00:47:49 played look at how hard this team played for 60 minutes Dan Campbell is a puppet master it's not like he uses manipulation he uses motivation he really appeals to every person in that locker room he figures out what makes them tick and and he brings in the right guys there's no guy in that locker room him
Starting point is 00:48:09 and brad homes that i can say it feels like it's bigger than the team so late in the game you know when the the backups are playing hard when you're really rubbing their face in it rubbing it and that's the sean payton in him because sean patten's rubbed i've had my face rubbed in it by sean patent before i don't know if that's the sean patent in him or if it's just the fact that last year going to Dallas was so painful for Dan the homecoming and maybe he felt like Jerry got that call at the end of the game because it felt personal to me. Yeah. And the amount of big guys he had on the field to run trick plays and and fuck the officials. It was almost like, hey, first play. Clearly. Yeah. Penomenal. Clearly. Oh, he had a complete bone to pick. Yeah. Yeah. That's what you said,
Starting point is 00:48:54 Chris. Like, think about how he galvanized a locker. I'm like how easy to play for a guy like Dan Campbell. Yes. Going out and like making that your mission to be like, hey, We remember this. Fuck you. And doing it like what, they did it like three or four times. It's like they were purposely trying to get all their big boys touchdowns and conversions and shit.
Starting point is 00:49:11 That's so good for your locker room. Ironically, they got the same penalty call during the game, though. I mean, listen, I would have said Ben Johnson hold a couple of those trick plays. Like the Penae Sewell play, it'd be great to have that in a bigger situation.
Starting point is 00:49:28 But Dan Campbell was on tilt. And Ben Johnson, I don't know if you guys knows. He's got a villain face. Like he should be a villain in a movie. When they cut after they called the Penaiseul, when they nullified the touchdown, and he was just like, no, no.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Yeah. He was like that guy looks like Lexel Luther. He looks like a villain. Yeah, villain, dude. He really does. But the way he gets this team to play, the physicality, we've talked about the hangover thing. Well, Dallas, thank God they're on a buy.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Okay, because they would have got their ass kicked this next week. I want to make it about the lions. we are having fun with the Cowboys, but the Lions just have become this team that plays so physical on both sides of the ball, and they're built equitably. They got tight ends. They have wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:50:14 They brought in Tim Patrick, who we've said, hey, they need a bigger possession receiver, and Tim Patrick had some moments yesterday. Maybe this works out. You know, maybe you can get the things you need out of him. The front, well-coached Hank Fraley, they'll give you David Montgomery one drive,
Starting point is 00:50:28 and then it's, you know, and I found this out, Kyle Long, on his on his show to pushing the pile he he did an interview with david montgomery his old teammate this week and and he said that their their nickname him and gives is sonic and knuckles well you know who knuckles is sonic and knuckles but like it really it really does that's a nickname that works for me because that is what you get you get thunder and lightning with this group and i did see a couple business decisions out there for dallas well i'm not saying any names what i'm saying is I saw a couple business decisions. And David Montgomery will make you make those business decisions. This team makes you make business decisions. And Sonic and Knuckles love rings.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Sonic and Knuckle love rings. And this year, this year they got a shot at getting a ring and raise your hand if you put them in the Super Bowl this year and raise your hand if you had them winning it. So I'm just telling you, this looks like a team of all the teams that you're like, hey, they're supposed to look like something. This team, five, six games into the season, including the Ravens look the closest to what we thought they'd look like. You know, the addition of Derek Henry, the first couple weeks of the season, you're like, I don't know what your identity is. You're committing a bunch of penalties.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Have you put it together? No, but they put it together now. In Detroit, they've had, they've taken their lumps early in the season. They do look like a team that can go the distance. The one big issue for me is the best player on the defense just went down with a gruesome injury. And now I'm hearing he could be back for the Super Bowl. if they get there. So on its head, that's very positive news. I'm not saying that like, it's not even about getting him back. When somebody's leg snaps like that, and I tried not to
Starting point is 00:52:08 watch the play, but they put it on the highlight of every say on the broadcast, they were like, we're not going to show the play. And then they showed a cut up of all the sacks. Yeah. And then you, and when they say that on the broadcast, you know the second you open Twitter or any social media, it's like, oh, gruesome, gruesome, gruesome, but here it is anyway. Yeah, ah, you hate to see this. So let me show it to everybody. in America. And zoomed in. For engagement.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Six different angles. You know, that was a freak injury and one that, you know, I kind of wonder, what's the timeline coming back from that thing? This guy's playing like a DPOI and he's putting together this run in his home state. I mean, it's almost like he's a, it's almost like he's a superhero. He really is like everything that you wanted him to be, he is. And then some. And he's a Michigan guy and he's a leader.
Starting point is 00:52:57 and he plays his ass off. And he's a great guy. And I just, you know, every injury you see on Sunday hurts. They're all, you feel bad for all the guys. It's hard for me to feel worse for Aiden Hutchinson than some undrafted guy that sees his future go up in flames. But I do somehow feel worse for Aiden Hutchinson because he's got so much going on.
Starting point is 00:53:17 And there is the team thing. And they absolutely got to figure out what they wanted to do on defense because he's most of the pass rush. So guys like Aline McNeal have to step up, Houston when he's healthy. Another team that might have to consider bringing in a piece. I don't know if they're going to do that.
Starting point is 00:53:34 You might think they just turn up the dial a little bit and bring more pressure. But this is one that we're going to have to figure out if we're the Lions is like, you know, we've really put it together. We added to the coverage bucket, but now we just lost somebody out of the Russian bucket. And he happens to be Batman for us.
Starting point is 00:53:55 you know and now a robin has to play like batman or you need a bunch of robins um and that's what we got to figure out like how do they want to go about this thing so man they got tough tough one a backup in detroit isaac uckwu jm u guy did a one year sabbatical at old miss okay and uh yeah so he's okay maybe he'll show you something maybe he will they also have james houston he had eight sacks his rookie year 2002 or 2002 and they need an eight sack kind of guy you know like if somebody can come up with eight or ten this year be that guy which is like a damn good season uh but you need somebody like that and then people can feel it but overall the biggest compliment i can give detroit is they really do make you consider your why i talked about this in my reaction last night
Starting point is 00:54:43 and i'm kind of being funny you know the guy who you know these motivational guys that come in and talk to teams are like what's your why you got to figure out what your why is and everybody's like where the fuck would i have to do that why well this is a game where you got to consider your why. If you're the Dallas Cowboys, you're going to the sideline, and you're thinking about it. And I've been in games like this, and I've been on that end of it,
Starting point is 00:55:03 where you have to figure out what motivates you. Because right now I'm only playing for my reputation. I'm only playing for the people that are going to turn on this all 22, so I don't get embarrassed. And so people don't question that I'm out here for the right reasons. And that's what Detroit does to people. I mean, Detroit did that to Dallas yesterday. Guys had to go to the sideline and figure out,
Starting point is 00:55:25 why am I playing this game? And Greg Williams, my old coach, he used to say this and no, it wasn't some bounty shit, although we did play physical. It was, we got them, locked the gates for 60 minutes. Locked the gates. In the game of football, when you play a baseball game
Starting point is 00:55:43 and you get jumped, you give up eight runs in the first inning, you're like, oh, we might lose the game. But for the next nine innings, I'm going to chew bubble gum, catch some fly balls, try to get a hit. And we'll be back at the ballpark. tomorrow. To lose a game in the NFL that's lopsided to a team like this that's physical and is not going to stop. They really did lock the gates yesterday for 60 minutes on Dallas.
Starting point is 00:56:05 And that's a pro team that was supposed to go to the playoffs this year. And they're down by almost 50 points at home on Jerry's birthday. This was a massacre. This was a massacre. And it was impressive. And then you got the stars on the sideline, huddle up, whispering, and talking to each other. Doesn't look good for Dallas. No, it doesn't. It does not look. If only it was that simple in the NFC East. Yeah. If only this kid wasn't carving people up for Eagles fans, you're thinking, oh, Dallas sucks, we're good. Nope. Not the case. Not so fast, my friend. And also for Dallas, I know it's low-hanging fruit, but like Derek Henry was available. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You're telling me if this team couldn't run the ball a little bit, they'd be better.
Starting point is 00:56:52 And they wasted it on a receiver that is underperforming. And your quarterback who's underperforming. Well, I'm not saying waste it. But what I am saying is like, you got to come to the, that's an oversight. But they have no rushing. They got no rush game. Terrible. No rush.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Terrible. Yeah. I'm sorry, Zeke is just, he's not, he's like a three. He's a three. And they're not going anywhere with that backfield. And if they keep playing the way they are, I don't know. And then like you said, too, defense guys making business decisions. And maybe it's because of the Lions, but maybe it's not.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Like, guys are getting to that point. A business decision is a binary decision. It's yes or no. It's yes or no. It really doesn't matter what's been going on. You have a decision to make every play. And when you make those decisions, it's a bad look on tape. All right.
Starting point is 00:57:48 So this just starts me on a run of talking about the NFC North, which the big takeaway for me is like the NFC North is best division in football top to bottom. They really are. And one of the teams yesterday was sitting there watching the games, Minnesota, and they're at the top of the standings. But Green Bay, I thought, had it. Did you guys check this game out at all? Who saw the Green Bay game?
Starting point is 00:58:11 Okay. I thought when Green Bay, Beau, give me this. I got no power, brother. I'm out here in the Stone Age. Well, I did buzz through this game. And I think Green Bay made a big statement because when you saw they were going to get Jayae back, you know, that was going to be a big deal for the secondary. They're coming home. Jordan Love's been healthy a couple weeks now.
Starting point is 00:58:36 And I think when they're at their best, they're scary. And when they're at their best at home, I can imagine this team being a very scary team. I think all these teams' physicality lends to like when. when it gets cold later in the season, when the football games mean more, when the run game is important, I don't care if Detroit doesn't play outside, when they go play somebody in their home stadium,
Starting point is 00:58:58 it's 30 degrees. You think guys want to tackle Dave Montgomery? You know, when somebody goes to Soldier Field to play that defense, you know, when Minnesota's playing you late in the season and the pressure's on, and they're rotating safeties, and you don't know where the fucking,
Starting point is 00:59:12 when anything's coming from, and they're physical, and they're hitting you in the mouth. Like, these teams are built for December. all four of these teams. And I think Green Bay, as much as any of them, because they mix in the explosives as good as anybody. Nolan, I told you to look up explosives.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Yeah. Yeah, yesterday they had 11 explosives, six run, five pass. Last week, that's an uptick from last week. They had eight with a four and four split against the Rams. On the season, they're second in the league behind Baltimore with 32 explosive brushes and tied for six with 36 explosive. Dude, they will gash you in the run game with Josh Jacobs. And they got guys up front who can block.
Starting point is 00:59:58 You know, like early in that game, they're moving people. And Jordan Love, once he's settled in. And yeah, he's taking more chances and he's almost making more mistakes. You know, last year he went that long streak with not a lot of picks. I kind of wonder if he was coaching to taking more chances this year. You know, I don't know if that's part of his development. and maybe it gets a little bit better but like I thought the protection was really good
Starting point is 01:00:19 and two moments in the game where the cards were on the ropes. Fourth and two, you saw the throw over the middle that was like in between five guys. That's a big one. It's 14-0 at that point. They just decided to kick the doors. And I think they know what we know about Arizona
Starting point is 01:00:35 is if you get Arizona down, especially when they lose Marvin Harrison Jr. to a concussion, they are not good at playing from behind. As much as you think a team that can spread it out and throw it around the yard would be. Kyler presses. They don't protect well up front. The Packers didn't have a single sack,
Starting point is 01:00:52 which continues to be a problem for that front, but the front was, they made their presence felt early. Kenny Clark was in the backfield like the guys, and they'll get Devante Wyatt back. But the shots, man, the fourth and two, I think you get two man, and you hit Watson for the touchdown.
Starting point is 01:01:07 And so, no, actually, I don't know what coverage that was, but, you know, it was Watson out of the, out of the half and they go for the jugular that's the attitude they have in romeo dobs good for him dude i'm really happy for him you know last week i said hey the team was too you could tell that's the thing that watching his press conference last week you know i was i've been on the thing like hey man and i hope you could read my tone i'm a fan of this kid and so it comes from a place of like i think you can be great dude you know like please don't let the last month of the season ruin the rest of your season because that would be good for nobody and you know sometimes
Starting point is 01:01:44 you've got to realize that things are bigger than you, especially on a good team. And we've all been there. For him to come back, watching him on the sideline, watching Christian Watson before the game, kind of pumping him up, like hitting him in the shoulder pads, like pounding his chest, like giving him a little pep talk. I don't know if it's confidence.
Starting point is 01:02:02 I don't know if it is something that he had going on mentally. Like last, when I saw him at the locker, fielding questions about this last week, I felt for him. I don't know what happened. it might be his fault, but the deep breast that this kid was taken, I saw a guy who was kind of like spiraling. And the thing you forget about NFL players is we're just like you. You know, everybody in this chat's going through something.
Starting point is 01:02:27 And I think a lot of times, a lot of times the pressure is invisible. You know, like there's so much pressure. You know, we see it on Sunday. You think, how do these guys make these plays under so much pressure? The pressure is immense all week long. And some guys are going through something. and you know like I think sometimes you look at an NFL player you're like you're making so much money how could you be fucking but I can tell you as a guy who made a lot of money it doesn't fix everything and you are a human being and sometimes you have a bad week sometimes you have a bad 10 days sometimes something happens in your personal life sometimes you're just not thinking straight and you're not you're not doing what I said earlier which is like see the big picture whatever happened it was great to see the guy come back out and make two absolutely beautiful plays at the pylon.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Sometimes you just might need two practices off, man. Yeah, I guess so. Get right. But that's what he brings you. The body control in the first touchdown, the second one, Jordan Love just saying, hey, fuck it, he's down there somewhere. I love that. And with Wicks leaving with a shoulder injury,
Starting point is 01:03:29 and I don't know how serious that is. Like, we're going to need you, man. Yeah, for sure. You know, so I think this was a big step in the right direction, and it's going to be a tough team to beat at home. And Arizona looks shell-shocked. Arizona, like, on the sideline, the shot of Kyle Murray going into the half to me look like a guy who just lost the game and you're
Starting point is 01:03:48 still in the game so look out for whatever that bad juju is in Arizona that it didn't just seem like hey we didn't play well today like some of the body language on that team was not great and I want to say this Nixon had a punch out early on a third down that was big because you were trying to play the game on your terms he also had a big return he's been great in the return game Evan Williams has been big for them. Like I said, Jaira came back. I think Cooper is a hidden reason why this defense is better this year.
Starting point is 01:04:23 I don't want to oversimplify it, but when you lost Devandre Campbell, I've been saying for a year or two now that the guy's lost the step. He's a little bit slower. He's a little bit older if you ever want to find a matchup in the past game on a guy. And also just the finishing of plays in the backfield.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Like Cooper is the guy that, when he's the free runner, you're going to get the guy down. And he plays well in space. He's quick. He'll knife in there. I like Cooper a lot, and he's a good ad blitzer. And when you've got a group that's not getting home, but I think are good rushers, sometimes it's just a matter of bringing five.
Starting point is 01:04:58 And so I really like the addition of Cooper. That's helped this group a lot. And also, you didn't talk about even though they don't have a lot of sacks, they do have 17 takeaways after six games. And last year, they had a total of eight. 18 takeaways in the entire season. That's big, man. And McKinney's been a big part of that.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Yeah, grow used to tell us about that. But Halfley's been a big part of that. Just to tell us about that, you're winning percentages exponentially go up when you can find a way to get one takeaway. But if you can find a way to get two takeaway, you're often two extra possessions in a game. It puts your winner percent. Remember what you just said in a couple minutes. I got you.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Bookmark that because it's going to come up again. Can I ask real fast, a team like the Cardinals, you're going to be a team. in Arizona, it's warm year-round, you play in a dome. Is there something to be said like the fall, weather changes, you start in September and games are usually pretty warm. And then the first game that you play outside on the road. Once I saw that weather. Is that something to be said? I think there's something to be said for certain teams. Like the first game you have to get through and then you're like, okay, we're maybe so. But I also think it's just you go on the road and you're playing this team that's just physical and they can get explosives on you and the rushers they didn't have a
Starting point is 01:06:13 single sack but kenny clark made his presence felt um you know those guys on the edge they're they're back there hunting i mean like rishon gary hasn't had a sack since jesus was a baby but that doesn't mean the guy's not a guy that when you prepare for him you're like shit i got to block this big ton of a gun like i think he the sacks come in bunches right and um you and i both know that. We'd be slumping at different times and all of a sudden as a unit or an individual, you get one and then they just roll in. So hopefully that's the case for Green Bay. Like I said, they played some good offensive lines. Yesterday they played a guy who kind of slows your rush down a little bit. We'll see what happens as a year goes on. But it's nice to get Jair back
Starting point is 01:06:55 because at least the fractions of time are going to be in your favor. That makes a big difference. When your number one corners down, somebody of that caliber. Russian coverage. And let's not leave the bears off man i thought in summation the offense met Caleb williams where he is over the last couple weeks and you know when i say that i mean you could see it the first three weeks this season and i said this a bunch of times like i don't know where there'd be this year if they can figure the quarterback thing out there kind of scary now i understand their wins have come against teams that are what like a combined four and 16 or something i i lost the stat in my fever should take notes leading up to this, but they haven't beaten any good teams. That's not going to anchor this
Starting point is 01:07:39 conversation. What I saw yesterday, and over the last couple of weeks, is an offense that's starting to have an identity. They did not have an identity the first month of the season. And if you listen to this podcast, the critiques are mainly about Shane Waldron. You can critique the rookie quarterback, and I will. He's missed a lot of deep balls and missed a lot of explosives. That's the one thing I thought he might be better at coming out. I kind of wondered how he'd play on time. That was something in college that you wondered. Like one of the main reasons I was worried about this kid was, and again, hand up, I'm glad you made the trade. Like at this point, it looks like you have a franchise quarterback. But the thing that I thought he'd do well off the rip was extend plays. And he's doing
Starting point is 01:08:23 that. But the thing he's doing the best and the thing he did the best yesterday was find windows in the middle of the field and the quick game, you know, like, and the red zone. And so the most impressive throw of the day was throwing away from coverage in the end zone in the middle of the field. A lot of these throws over the middle of the field are throws that young guys struggle to make. So this is very encouraging if you're a Bears fan, you know, you still got to do it against a team, as I mentioned that, you know, like, as good as 12 and 22, as good as we think, as good as we, now, is that the teams that they played? That's the teams they played all.
Starting point is 01:09:02 How about the teams they beat? That was the stat I was looking for. But it doesn't matter. It's like the Jaden Daniels thing. Jaden Daniels is the best rookie quarterback, right? Jaden Daniels, we've decided pretty quickly that he's a stud. But we still wanted to see what he looked like when he played the Ravens. And he looked pretty good.
Starting point is 01:09:19 So I can't wait to see Caleb get a test like that because I think they're a lot further along than they were when they played Houston a couple weeks ago, when they didn't know who they were. And for somebody who's shit on Shane Waldron this year so far, I think he's on to something. And the run game helps a lot. Four and 18. Four and 18,
Starting point is 01:09:39 the teams that beat them. So that they beat. So the middle of field stuff is great. But imagine being the Jaguars. And Bears fans, I hope you're hearing this. Like you guys, and this is why we on this show put you in the wild card.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Because of this defense who's averaging, giving up 17 points a game, and a quarterback who, maybe started slow, but now if he's figuring some things out, this offense can operate. He also rushed for 50 yards in the game. Like he has a really good knack for just knowing how to be an adult about scrambling. And another thing about this kid,
Starting point is 01:10:11 the kid's been an adult the entire season in the face of a situation where, you know, people in the media trying to take shots, people in the media trying to, like people in the media like me, parsing every performance, you know. I haven't heard about nail polish in a while. No, I mean, you know, like that stuff was ridiculous. But the stuff that we're seeing right now is an answer to people who are asking football questions. I've never asked the off-the-field questions.
Starting point is 01:10:39 I'm asking you the football questions. And over the last couple of years or weeks, they've answered some football questions. And to me, this kid through and through from his toughness after the Houston game to the maturity shows at the microphone, to the way that I see him start to play with his teammates. And I'm talking about communication, getting the line lined up. You know, like everything. He really did take some steps in the right direction of the last couple weeks, but more than anything, the offense took steps in the right direction, in my opinion.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Do you go ahead? No, you go ahead. I was just going to ask, do you think there's a reason why the Jaguars didn't pressure him, like, at all? Through, by the time they were up 35, 10, Jacksonville had blitzed him six times and pressured him 10 on 32 dropbacks. Blitz. Say that one more time, because I was reading a comment. somebody said best rookie QB so far with two asterix.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Well, that's fine, but you're throwing out a month and you're asking me to, like, say, you've arrived after two games. Okay, so, like, I don't know. I mean, the real answer to that will come after the bears have a bye week and they play out Washington against Jayden Day. Well, and they're the type of team that I think could beat the commanders and come out of it, and you can still think Jaden's the best player. It's not about QB wins.
Starting point is 01:11:53 It's about, you know, what you do, which is why, you know, even in a loss yesterday. Uh-huh. Better than the, the Bears defense is better than the commander. Bears defense is stout. And to do that, they were down briskier yesterday, and I know, listen,
Starting point is 01:12:07 Jacksonville might be, they might be, if not for Cleveland, the worst team in the league. And listen, hand up, I decided to bet them yesterday. Not big.
Starting point is 01:12:17 So I'm not going to be up here, telling you about all my wins and not my losses. I thought rookie quarterback going to London, I'm going to go with the trends. No way, not what their travel plans. They got there too late. Jacksonville got there too late.
Starting point is 01:12:29 They got there too late. Jacksonville got there too late. But I don't think if they showed up on Wednesday. The point is Jacksonville, now that I'm seeing another week of them, they're on the DNB list. We got one off them a week or two ago when we played them against Houston, but we can't play Jacksonville anymore. They are on the DNB, the do not bet list, for them to get in that metal tube and spend eight hours of their lives flying somewhere. And you're going to be there all two weeks and perform like that. I mean, they could have been in that game in a lot of turns, you know, and then it just got out of control.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Gabe Davis dropping that ball in the end zone. Coming out of the half, you're moving the ball. Evan Ingram fumbles the football. I mean, like, there were so many mistakes like that. There was a possession where they had three separate sets of downs extended by penalties on third down. Like it was like a horse. It was a horror show watching Doug. Walk into the locker room and do that interview, I don't see somebody who feels like there's hope. And I don't, you know how, hey, the team can say, hey, has a coach lost the locker room? That might be true, but I also think the locker room's lost the coach. Not good.
Starting point is 01:13:47 I'm not absolving him of blame. But like, it might go both ways because Doug walking at a locker room is like, I don't know what the fuck to do. Andrei Sisko said a lot of quit. Andre Sisko on the Jaguar's performance and loss of the Bears in London. Devin Lloyd quit on that first touchdown. Yeah. I mean, it's just guys are jogging in the end zone.
Starting point is 01:14:10 You know, like, you got to see more passion, more energy, and I thought Ryan Nielsen would be a lot better for this team. Now you talk about, does Doug get fired in London? You know what I said last week is they might fire him after that game, and it's Monday, and you said, no way. What do you think now? I think it would be brutal to fire a coach in a different country.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Yeah, it's just, it feels like it's a no-no, but, but it, it's an extenuating circumstance. And, but it does nothing for your team. I just think, I think, like, you doing that, like, just makes the situation just worse rather than get this next game out. If he wins, we can still fire you because you have some trash. And if, if you lose, it's like, everyone, like, everyone. One week removed is Jacksonville. What if Sean Con was like, all right, I think you know what this is about.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Yaw some trash. And I'm going to have to let you go. So we've made arrangements. But it's one of the things that's confusing about even making decision and firing a coach, if that's what you're doing in Jacksonville, is like, who's the interim? Yeah. It ain't the O.C. It ain't the D.C. Usually on a team like that, there's a side of the ball where you're like, okay, well, like the Jets, they decide. to fuck it.
Starting point is 01:15:26 We're just going to, we're just going to fire anybody but Rogers' his buddy. And do we see that happen? Because we already seen Doug kind of back up the bus, like setting that up to kind of save his ass. And maybe we see coordinators get changed. Do you think there's a possibility of that, that we might see a coordinator change before? Well, this week, he would have to relink. He would have to take play calling duties back. This week, you'd have to say, I'm taking play calling duties back.
Starting point is 01:15:53 And then you'd have to go beat the dog shit out of the Patriots. which I don't know doable okay so we're gonna we're gonna talk about the we're gonna talk about the other rookie quarterbacks because we've just talked about Caleb we've already talked about jaden Daniels we talk about every week okay but the Drake May thing can you pull up that Chris Brockman tweet my boy from from the Eisenzschel Chris was it the right decision to play Drake May that's in my rich eyes and voice he never asked me me that but i was one of these people and i still am this is the thing i'm still one of these people to think there's a better way to start this kid out i really do like if you were going to start
Starting point is 01:16:37 him this year i don't know why you picked this this game and when i asked you earlier if 24 25 pressures was a lot i'm going to answer that question now it is a lot and i think the texas had 24 pressures in this game that the Chris Brockman tweet and he's showing a video of a dime from Drake May and he threw a couple dimes and if I'm the Patriots and as a fan of the game I'm excited because this kid looked good he really did but I think real experts know as you look at this Chris Brockman tweet real experts in quotes know that him getting killed on the field and making some nice throws and having nice moments are not mutually exclusive both of the those things happened yesterday.
Starting point is 01:17:24 And if your take is he's not going to get killed out there, well, you were wrong yesterday because he did get killed out there yesterday. I counted by my own stopwatch the second play of the second half when DeNeil Hunter pummeled him. He stayed down for 16 seconds. 16 Mississippi. I didn't know if he was dead. I didn't know if he broke his shoulder.
Starting point is 01:17:48 I didn't know if he broke his ribs. Find me another guy. that stayed down for 16 seconds yesterday and re-entered the game at quarterback. So you got to avoid these, you know, like whether it's, I don't think Chris is talking about Greenlight, because if he heard what we said, we said he might go out there and look good.
Starting point is 01:18:07 We are bullish on Drake May, but that's all the more reason not to get him fucking murdered out there. I mean, again, Will Anderson, who played his ass off, third sack, dribbling his head like a basketball. These are, and these are the hits you're going to have to all year. And so it's going to be a wild ride. And if you can get through it, then it's worth the game experience because he looks pretty damn good. But at the end of the day, he's throwing these
Starting point is 01:18:34 dimes in a ballgame where you're down three touchdowns. So, you know, and Brockman's tweet, legit, can't wait to read an apology tweet from all the quote experts who said Drake May would get killed this weekend and couldn't make plays behind this line. I think he's conveniently merging two crowds into one take so that he can count. catch all. But I think most people who are reasonable would say this kid can be very good and he might have some good moments, but you are running the risk of hurting this kid. This is not an offense that's good for a young quarterback. Now, hats off to draw Mayo for saying like we're trying to win games. And in moments, it looked like they were a competitive team. But they've got a long way
Starting point is 01:19:16 to go up front if you want to keep this kid up right and not fuck it up. Chris Brockman does point out. New England Pats will be back winning soon and people think. Maybe not this year, but free agency will come. Free agents will come play with 10. And I agree. Like this is an exciting first day for this group. But you're going to be on the edge of your seat
Starting point is 01:19:38 the whole year because this kid is taking some big shots. And so that's the gamble you got to take. If you want to take that gamble, you just have to know what it is. Well, Chris, I think like, okay, they're playing in Jacksonville next week in London. He's not going to get hit. They just want to get Well, they just want to get him a home, a home performance under his belt before the chaos of a game to London.
Starting point is 01:20:00 And then I'm assuming they have a bye week after that, right? No question. And the gamble worked because he's up right now. He did a lot of good things yesterday. There's a lot of positives. One of the positives is not how he's feeling this morning as we're talking. No. So like, hey, if he's good, he's good, you're going to go play in London, which I would have thought London be damned would have been a better place to start him if you were going to do this.
Starting point is 01:20:20 just watching Jacksonville Rush Group and watching their coverage, you know, but they did survive this and he had some really nice throws. And I thought for the Texans, second half woes in the past couple weeks, they figured out how to pull away in this game and they did it with defense. They forced some turnovers.
Starting point is 01:20:39 And, you know, you just wanted to come out of here with a win and you wanted to do it in a way that, like, it wasn't like we let this team hang around. So Texans getting primed up to play, another one of the teams we just talked about the Green Bay Packers next weekend. That's going to be must-see TV. A big a good game. Must-see TV.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Joe makes him back just in time. Man, got him on the ground. He got back on the ground running, literally 100 yards rushing. So it's going to be a good game next week for sure with Green Bay versus them. Guess that one? No question. Guess the line. Is it in Green Bay?
Starting point is 01:21:12 Yep. I'm going to say Houston by 10. Green Bay is 3.5. Green Bay is a three-point favorite. Oh, give me Houston. Give me Houston. Jimmy Houston. Wait, also, it's Green Bay minus three.
Starting point is 01:21:29 So it's a pick-em in general, a neutral site pick-em, but it's Green Bay at home land three. Yeah. So, you know, which kind of makes sense. I guess it makes sense. I just look, I think Houston's a slight favorite in a neutral environment. And you look at this game, it is a Green Bay. They're going to play well there.
Starting point is 01:21:47 I just said that. You said neutral over there? I said the way you look at a line. You add like three points to the home. Yeah. I see. And then Spencer Rattler is the other quarterback who. Spencer rattled.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Well, in the second half he was, but I did see some things in this game that, you know, and Nolan, you, why don't you talk about how he played while I take a leak? No problem. I don't have a small bladder. I'm just hydrated.
Starting point is 01:22:14 I don't want to get an ablation. Yeah, Rattler's first. Kind of a. a tale of two halves. I thought the first half was kind of like what we talked about on Friday with. The preseason tape showed he operates well in the quick game. And that kind of translated the game plan for this one, short to intermediate level. He played really well.
Starting point is 01:22:33 He loved the anticipation, the accuracy, the feel for pressure, being able to move away from that, keep his eyes downfield. He just played with confidence. He looked, at least coming out in that first half, he looked like a guy who had 40-plus games of experience in college. But second half, once that game kind of got away from them, the Bucks really started to pull away. He was under siege. I think, I think Coach Bowles and the defense kind of dialed it up as far as the
Starting point is 01:23:00 there were blitz and the shit out of them. Yeah, he was just one of the few games. This is the only game I got to watch. I went to a bar called Hattricks in Tampa, which is like a legendary sports bar. It's the only time I've ever been at a bar and watched a football game. Like it's fucking wild. Really? Anyway.
Starting point is 01:23:18 The post time he's a. ever been at a bar or watch a football game oh how was that being at a bar and what you really it was sick yeah i loved it dude everyone was like go buck big plays before going crazy i was like the gutteral screams when when something goes wrong like do you do you remember what you said earlier about what coach grow said yes what did he say um your chances to win go exponentially up when you get turnovers How about when you get two pick sixes? Like, damn near or shouldn't lose? Is that what New Orleans did yesterday or am I dreaming?
Starting point is 01:23:53 Didn't they pick Baker off three times in the first half? Three pick. One pick six, right? One pick six. I don't think. They didn't have a pick six? Three picks in one half. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Three picks in one quarter? It was like consecutive drives almost. You got to figure out a way to win that game. You got to figure out a way to win that game. And like the fact to me, just looking at the numbers and this is admittedly one game that we just watched on TV and I hadn't gone back and done the all 22. But when you got Spencer Rattler throwing the ball 40 plus times in a game, that's not a check. Okay, that's that's like an X in the win column. And then on top of that, I mean, I thought this was a typo, 270-something yards of off, rushing offense for, for five?
Starting point is 01:24:44 For the Bucks? Total offensively. 277 on the ground. Those are college numbers. New Orleans has given up a thousand yards in a week, basically. The Bucs don't have a good run game, bro. The Bucks are not supposed to. They were dead last in the league last year.
Starting point is 01:25:02 But they got Bucky Irving now. And Sean Tucker. I was the other guy, Tucker, yeah. Well, no, but I'm saying Bucky. Buckeye Irving gives them something down and down out that they hadn't had yet. Now you had this kid in the mix And I don't know if he's going to get more looks Like with Rashall White
Starting point is 01:25:18 Coming back at some point Being a guy who was maybe in the doghouse a little bit I don't know But this guy bounces the ball really well So you get a little bit of thunder and lightning with him You get a little bit of like skill set variation And that's 277 And it just was a million chunks
Starting point is 01:25:38 It was kind of a weird game too Like I was not expecting the bucks to run the ball as well as they did. Baker threw three picks. He's protected the ball pretty well this season. But one of them was bad. He threw a ball in a double coverage. He got fooled by coverage. Other two were not his fault. One of them got
Starting point is 01:25:55 No, they're tips. It was like a low, low ball and it got tipped up perfectly to the defender. The other one was tipped by the white detackle per Z or whatever the hell's name is. Stop by Cam Jordan. And then the bucks, dude, they had like 15 penalties or something like that. It felt like every single play
Starting point is 01:26:11 there was a penalty. And they were playing behind the sticks and then converting. And to add, weirdest thing about the, I think I hurt my knee this morning, guys. Weirdest thing about this whole game is, um, the Saints scored all 27 points in the second quarter.
Starting point is 01:26:25 No, it was like, yeah, hit him. And that's the most impressive thing to me about the bucks winning this game. You spend the whole week worrying about your possessions, your families,
Starting point is 01:26:35 your friends, your house. You get home, there's going to be a fucking crocodile in the house. Like, these are the things. worried about after that hurricane think about everything you went through this week bow and you know how this is all these guys are the vibe and 10 was fucked this week all right take you your boy yeah and and
Starting point is 01:26:54 they go and they practice somewhere else and they have all this pressure on them because you want to win for the city and you you've convinced yourself you can really help by doing that and boost morale and you come out there in the second quarter and you get punched square in the mouth in a building that as I mentioned before, like, that's a place known for, for ugly things happening to teams. Like, when things go bad down dark, it goes really loud. Yeah. And they'll run the fucking score up. And they ran the score up not even trying to just like, hey, you can't stop us. And I don't know, Werner was out for New Orleans. Like that makes a difference. Is that how important he is his defense? The question I have to ask New Orleans fans is, is it time to hit the
Starting point is 01:27:41 reset button. You know, I think Thursday with Sean Payton coming in, you know, if you lose this game, I know we hype. You've got to get health. I know you hyped, we hyped you guys up for the first three weeks of the season. But, you know, living off the Dallas and Carolina wins now is looking a little cute. And God doesn't like ugly. Okay. And so ever since the Eagles game, dude stands over Devante Smith and spits on him as he lays their unconscious. I'm sorry. I don't feel bad for you. And I got to say like I think as an appreciator of good football it might be better if the reset button is hit sooner and later because not only from a coaching standpoint Dennis Allen's winning percentage is like down near it's historically bad for somebody who spent that much time as a head coach
Starting point is 01:28:26 um and then on top of it and I think he's a good decoordinator and everything but on top of it your team has gotten old as fuck you got an old man like look at the best players on your team look at a lot of the highest paid players on that team they're in their 30s you know like look at the guys that you know cam jordan tasum hill uh matthew derrick car camara's getting up there in in years like you do have some young talent bub memes bob means yesterday um bob memes but bob means yesterday and uh lave and shaheed and guys like that and so you know there is a nucleus of young talent on this team, it's time to maybe flip the script a little bit
Starting point is 01:29:13 and say, hey, DeMario Davis is up there in years. He's still a dog. But I'm just saying overall, this team is older. It might be time to get out while you still can. I brought this up earlier. I have no idea if this is possible or if it's attractive to them because Spencer Rattler at least look like a guy.
Starting point is 01:29:29 You want to talk about getting a guy some reps and saying, hey, maybe he's the future. And you might get him killed behind this line, right? And that's part of the calculus. talking about Drake May. But like maybe it's time to give him a little run into, well, Derek's hurt right now. And maybe it's time to shop Derek. I was just about to say, do the Saints have anyone like worth, worth trading for or like trying to get rid of? Yeah, if they decided to, if the Saints were like, hey, yard sale, there'd be a few players that people would come out and kick the tires on.
Starting point is 01:30:02 Okay. Like, I don't know how Saints fans feel about this. But, uh, but, but, but, But it's, Trevor Penning sucks. I'd have to agree. I agree. I agree. And also, the guy that I don't have a problem saying that because I think he's dirty.
Starting point is 01:30:19 And if I played against him, I wouldn't like. So. Yes. But Saints fan. That's sleigh block. You got to figure this out. Like, where do you want to go? Who do you want to be?
Starting point is 01:30:28 And I think pretty soon you're going to have to. Derek Carr, though. Derek Carr. Where could he go? Miami. That would actually be really fun. Yeah. That'd be really fun.
Starting point is 01:30:43 I think Jalen Waddle and Tari. I think everybody would have fun. Two thumbs up. But then again, only Miami knows if the guy's going to play football again. Right. Tua. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:52 You know, like or when he's going to play football. You know, and all of a sudden you got Derek and whatever's left to his deal. And then I don't really know. I'm not a cap guy. Yeah, yeah. But what I am telling you is,
Starting point is 01:31:02 no, I'm not a cap guy. But what I am telling you is somebody out there could use a and quarterback. At some point this season, somebody's going to get thing, hey, there's a team in Vegas. How's it? The team in Vegas wants a quarterback so badly.
Starting point is 01:31:18 So badly. So badly that team in Vegas. And you had him. And Devante Adams might not leave if Derek Carr comes back. You want to talk about bringing Devanti Adams to Derek Carr? Bring Derek Carr to Devante Adams. Any way you think he would go back? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:33 I do. I also don't think he has a say in the matter. Does he have a great clause? You know what I'm saying? I don't know how people in the chat feel about this. Derek Carr reunion of the Raiders. We can get this. Raiders bridges burned, but not how burned is it? I bet there's a little.
Starting point is 01:31:49 He does have a no trade clause. Oh, he has no trade clause. Trade car to the Brown, somebody said. I don't think that's the kind of move you make on the heels of the move you made. I mean, I'm not saying. I don't know if you would agree to that one. Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think so either.
Starting point is 01:32:07 there. Yeah, Josh McDaniels is gone. Captain Kiljoy, no reason not to go back. I agree with you. E.J. says Derek Carr is a second string quarterback now. Not in Vegas. Honestly, I've seen Derek Carr make some nice throws this year. Week one and two. That wasn't a... He doesn't have any time. Their offense is all play action, which he likes, but like all play action and all like, you know, max up. Like, I think a team that can spread it out and has got a run game like a Miami, that'd be a lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:32:42 Just fantasy land up here. We're just, anyways. Are you, are we ready to go to Philly for the Philly, Philly Cleveland? We are, we are ready to go to Philly. So real fast, Nick Siriani did, he had his press conference, and he did apologize for yesterday.
Starting point is 01:33:00 He said, I'm sorry and disappointed how my energy was directed. My energy should be all in on coaching. And I'm glad somebody talked to him because it makes it a little bit easier for me to do what I promised I do right now, which is just, it's just let it loose. And since Nick Siriani and I agree, I don't feel like I'm going to be barred from the building for saying what I'm saying right now. And this is somebody looking at a guy who I like the guy Nick Siriani. People like the guy Nick Siriani. Like there's a reason he got a head coaching job. And lot of it was the guy he was like the energy he brought you know the the the the who he the way he
Starting point is 01:33:39 the way he coaches like but when you become a head coach you got to act like a head coach like period bro i'm trying to put myself in i said this yesterday put nick syriani's brain in the other 31 coaches in the NFL's heads do a couple do a lobotomy and imagine name a coach in the NFL name a coach Mike Tomlin okay name another coach Sean Payton Jim Harbaugh
Starting point is 01:34:06 name another coach John Harwa keep naming them yeah imagine any of these guys walking over to your own fan base talking shit at the end of the game
Starting point is 01:34:15 because you beat the Browns it's it's hard to imagine especially when you consider that one of the most painful moments of this guy's tenure so far was walking out of that chiefs stadium and poking the bear what are you doing
Starting point is 01:34:30 they won the Super Bowl you won a regular season game so like I've never liked this part of it I've never liked this energy act like a head coach when the guy got a sudden haircut coming in the week what did I say
Starting point is 01:34:46 what did I say everybody knows this everybody knows my theory my theory is when somebody gets a haircut suddenly or changes their facial hair or dyes their hair you know cuts their mustache suddenly when Daniel Jones grows a beer when Joe Burrow has dyed tips
Starting point is 01:35:03 like things are not good it's like a it's like a madden curse but it's realer because the reason you got the haircut is because something's going on and you show up to the stadium looking like fucking private pile and and all the sudden like you are wearing your emotions on your sleeve
Starting point is 01:35:24 you come out of the by week Jalen Hertz and you have a real kumbaya moment like it feels like everybody's like on the same page We're going to get our guys back. And the game ends with you talking shit to the fans. And like, I saw Damien Woody today and he called it clown behavior. You know, I don't want to put it that way, but I'm not saying he's a clown, but that's clown behavior. I'm not, I'm not calling you a clown, but what I'm saying is that was clown behavior.
Starting point is 01:35:48 I do agree with Damian Woody on that part of it. And for a guy that's not calling the plays and has gone through multiple coordinators, your job is to be the tone setter, to be the thermostat. not the thermometer, to be the guy that sets the temperature in the building in the room. And when I got to watch vets, watch you walk by to go talk shit to the fans after you won a game that, quite frankly, if there was a different coach in the locker room after the game, that coach would probably be like, hey, guys, that that wing counts. They all count in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:36:23 But we made that really fucking hard. That, that to me is ridiculous. It's a ridiculous end to the game. And, you know, then to go max protection at the podium. You know what I'm saying? And I'll, hey, listen, I'm all about families. I'm all about being a family man. And I think Nick's probably a great dad and those kids love him.
Starting point is 01:36:50 And I would never, don't want anybody to take this the wrong way. But I'm not the first to point out that like when you got to go up there and answer tough questions after a game where you're probably on the hot seat and you had a moment at the the end of the game like that did seem calculated to people so i said last night in my breakdown my immediate reaction was like usually you tell people don't read your mentions if you're an athlete if you're a coach if you're a president don't get on the timeline and read your mentions it's no good for you i would tell nick syriani read his mentions i would tell nick syriani to hop online and peruse the timeline a little bit because it's like he has no situational or
Starting point is 01:37:31 no self-awareness in that situation to know like what is it what is the context of this win that we just earned what is tell me what the story is going to be tomorrow and by the way when it comes to the game the entire story is different if at the end of the first half you run the ball and you kick a field goal because that's not a game it's not anywhere close to a game and you're not sweating a one-score ball game into the fourth if that's the if that's not the case and then after game and he might be covering for jalen hertz because in the past jalen hurts has made a couple checks in key situations that have come into question you know stuff that's kind of between him and the coordinator between him and the the receiver and a key moment or ball game maybe jalen's the one
Starting point is 01:38:17 making that check well it's a terrible check let's go four verts with the entire fucking group walked up on the line of scrimmage and no hot so whoever's making that check it was assinine and then to actually do it and carry it out in that situation the thing it led to, I'm sitting on the couch and live stream, pull it up, pull up my reaction to live stream. I called that shit. I said as soon as they, as soon as they, I go drop back pass, you're going to take a sack, they're going to block the field goal.
Starting point is 01:38:47 And that's exactly what happened in real time. It's exactly what happened in real time. For the host. It's so predictable. And shout out to Roddy McLeod. Yeah, I got to say that. Wahua. Wahua.
Starting point is 01:38:57 He's a leading touchdown guy on the Browns. Fire. I don't know if that's a typo or I read that wrong. No, he's got two. But then to claim that decision that almost lost your team the game against the Browns, like maybe that's not the thing to do. If you were keeping it real, great, but maybe keep that to yourself. And if you were trying to, if you were trying to protect your quarterback,
Starting point is 01:39:20 maybe don't do that either because like it's an indefensible check. It's like, what are we doing, bro? We were talking about embarrassing stats earlier. here's one for you the Eagles are the only team in the NFL that have yet to score or a touchdown in the first quarter in the first quarter
Starting point is 01:39:39 and that's becoming a thing and then after the game when he's asked about it he kind of brushes it off and you know somebody's calling me right now it might be Nick Seriani as my dad I'm not gonna pick up Nick might be like bro I'm watching a live watch what the fuck you called me a clown I didn't call you a clown
Starting point is 01:39:52 Nick I said this was like this is clown behavior you know but I don't think Nick's a clown you know Nick got a team to a Super Bowl. If you're watching Nick calling. And ultimately, though, he's got to be the guy. If you're not the scheme guy, get the fuck out of the way and let Kellyn call the plays.
Starting point is 01:40:09 I want to see more motion. I want to see in the first quarter that we're not just wasting downs. Like, I know taking shots can soften the defense up so you can run the ball. And when you're getting man coverage, you want to take some shots. And you get A.J. Brown back. You want to take shots. But there was a play in the first two series. By the way, the first series, the first series was three and out.
Starting point is 01:40:28 the second one, there's a bad snap. Barkley actually could have gone the distance on one of these plays. He ran right into Landon Dickerson and knocked him, slam the fuck over. But there was a gap there that if he had been able to hit it, he's one-on-one with that safety, and I don't think the safety wins. So the point I'm making is you want explosives. Sometimes it's just forcing the ball to that guy.
Starting point is 01:40:54 And, you know, the gun runs weren't really working a lot of the day in some of the moments, like the perimeter stuff was working. I want you to come out like that drive that made it 20 to 13, you know, when you felt like you needed a touchdown or the entire stadium was going to implode. Like, that's how I want you to come out in your first couple drives is we got to get these first couple first downs or everybody in the stadium's going to kill us.
Starting point is 01:41:17 And that's the way I felt like the vibe was after the half when you go and you know you need a touchdown. You know what they did? They go perimeter run. They go quick game to AJ. They hit a crosser that turns into an explosive. So if you're getting man coverage, maybe work the underneath stuff.
Starting point is 01:41:33 You know, like you don't have to get it all in one play. And I know that the shot is a staple of the Philadelphia offense since he's been there. But to me, and I know Kellan Moore, part of it is taking shots. But I love treating those first possessions
Starting point is 01:41:47 like it's the last possession of the game. You know, when I play Madden. And, you know, usually that wouldn't fucking matter, but I feel like with everything Nick's doing right now, me as the coach in Madden, I could probably speak to this. I don't care if it's a five-minute possession the first. I'm going to drive down and get points because that defines the entire game. And for me, we're just wasting plays in the first couple of possessions of ball games.
Starting point is 01:42:13 And I don't know if the chat feels like I'm preaching the choir, but it's just, I love the shots, but let's let's, let's possess the football like it means something early in the game. and so you know like the main point I want to make is I like agro fangio I like aggressive fangio I like that they came out of the by week and part of this is probably the Browns but part of it to me is like hey I've seen what I have up front let's be more aggressive let's blitz more 45% of the day yesterday 30% on the year so there's an uptick maybe part of that's the Browns but a ton of man coverage and Cooper Dejean and Nick Lynn just fall down and muddy waters so somebody check on lanslin somebody check on i don't mean the picture check on
Starting point is 01:43:03 check on lanslin in real life is he okay all right put yeah put him back up there and put muddy waters back up if you can just like put him somewhere yeah put muddy waters up there did a ghost just come in here i think so i think it was the ghost of uh well hey fan gio being more aggressive cooper de jean moving to slot corner. We talked about it. We called for it on inside the NFL a couple weeks ago and they did it. And this is something,
Starting point is 01:43:31 number one, he's better in traffic. He's better sorting through these stacks and bunches. And you can use him as a blitzer. He blitzed three, four times in the game. Almost came up with a big hit sack on the goal line. But, you know, more than anything, I think it was Milton Williams just resetting the line of scrimmage
Starting point is 01:43:48 and making it so he couldn't see Deshaun anymore. I thought end a game, not to get lost. Great moment for the Eagles defense. You're playing for your life against the Browns. And they've got a couple shots at the end zone here. The first play, Cooper DeGine,
Starting point is 01:44:06 trailing more, he's motioning, sifting through the traffic, knifing to make the play in the flat. That's a big one. The next play, Nolan Smith, who I've said multiple times this year,
Starting point is 01:44:18 I know, I know like everybody wants sacks. But let's start with a good edge. Nolan Smith setting a really good edge. Third play, CJ Gardner Johnson, who hadn't been great man coverage, making a play on the ball at the Gene actually got routed on that play. It's just a secret. But overall, five sacks for the defense. That is a product of who you're playing, but also the coverage you're playing behind you. And BG's 30 fucking six years old, still playing well, still playing hard. They have a chance. 200th game, Chris. Was that his time?
Starting point is 01:44:53 200th game yeah 200th game thought I read that I think it's most in eagles history dude congrats to bg and like just a stalwart and somebody that like has come back year after year in different roles but found a way on this group that's not very talented to to to have a big role and I think like not to to get lost in the shuffle third and three I think it was third and three it was third down you're at like the what is it it's it's uh third quarter it's 10 10 they're going to kick a field goal. You knock the playback three, four yards. Number one, you stop the drive. It's a jet sweep. But they miss the field goal. And so, like, these are the hidden plays in the game that add up in a low-scoring game where I want to shout out the defense. And I know the offense will probably, they're working
Starting point is 01:45:40 through some things. But if you win this game 20 to 7, I think people are okay. They know the Brown's defense is pretty good. You know, they still got Miles Garrett and these guys. But when you're in a dog fight because of a decision you make at the beginning of the end of the second quarter, that comes back to the head coach. And then for him to whiff at the podium like that, like after the game, he's got to be better. He's got to be better.
Starting point is 01:46:09 And I thought Jalen did some good things. To take that shot at the end of the game, let's imagine they don't hit it. Cleveland's going to get the ball back with, you know, over a minute to go. So I don't know what to take. is but this isn't a great team right now and the head coach is not showing his best stuff and on top of that you got some injuries jordan milada dealing with some kind of lower extremity he was carded off and then
Starting point is 01:46:41 dallas goddard looked to have gotten banged up too no question the injuries mattered dallas goddard mattered right lost him early he didn't get a ton of snaps but uh stoutlin's got to get this group going down another guy for maybe a period of time here and one of the best tackles in the league. In my opinion, one of the better tackles in the league. Next week, it's a homecoming for Sequin. They play at the Giants.
Starting point is 01:47:06 And that's one that worries you because of the way the defense plays. I mean, that's one that worries you. If your offense is not on the same page, like, defense can hang in there. And hey, none of them are easy in the NFL, as we mentioned, playing the Giants or whoever they are.
Starting point is 01:47:21 So this is when you've got to win. You want to talk about must win. I feel like for the morale for the soul of this team. It is a divisional game and it is a must win. And it's not from a standing standpoint. They're not washed if they don't win this game, but what? Get the grill ready if they don't win this game. You think they'll be cooked? They're going to be on their way because if they don't win at the giant. You're lucky I didn't get the grill out for the Jags. No, the Jags. They need the grill, bro. I'm like, I'm with you. They're on the Foreman grill. All the moisture in the Jags is just kidding.
Starting point is 01:47:57 I'm at the barbecue with you. I'm at the barbecue with you. Cleveland's cooked, huh? Yeah, bro. Like, I mean, until they get a new quarterback, basically they're cooked. And I hate to sound all old school, but you got to act like a head coach. You know, like I've kind of come around to being this old school guy. I'm like you now where it's like...
Starting point is 01:48:14 You have to, bro. Well, in general, it's just... Facts. Facts. Do you think Siriani's cooked? If the Eagles lose to the Giants, is Siriani cooked? Bro, the fact that he already apologized is an indication that, yeah, you're probably cooked. Because if you're going to go out of your way to be like, oh, I'm that guy.
Starting point is 01:48:34 I'm going to scream at fans or whatever, then lay in it. Lay in it. Like, don't apologize. Just be like, yo, that's me. That's my mentality. But it's not. And it's clear to see. It's just you're imagining, bro, that we're head coaches, right?
Starting point is 01:48:48 And he's our age. Like he's, he's 30-something years old, right? I mean, yeah? Or is he 40 yet? But I can tell you, I used to think, we were talking about it on the way in today. Like, I used to think that when you become a grown-up, he's 43, you're just suddenly a grown-up. That's not true. I'm 39, and sometimes I got to grow the fuck of it.
Starting point is 01:49:06 And sometimes in this room, I act like a child. And sometimes, but the stakes are different when you're a head coach. And so the point is, like, whatever you're going through developmentally in your life where, like, you're growing up and you're figuring out, like, Because people still develop in their 40s, bro. Like you said. You got to table that shit. Whatever you're going through, feeling impressed, feeling like you're grinding an axe. It is the job of the players to grind the axe go out and play with the battery in their bag.
Starting point is 01:49:31 It's the job of the coach. And it's not the same thing. It's not the same thing. But it's just that, like you said, like you got to, maybe he does need to be on social media or he should see situations. Because we just seen this in college with the, what, the Michigan coach or the coach going over to the sideline and cutting out. He's not the head coach. Yeah. Exactly. But but but it's still that like they made a big deal about it.
Starting point is 01:49:52 The guy got fired or whatever happened. And it's just one of those things where it's not a good look. No, it's a bad look. It's a bad look. If you're a veteran. Go ahead, Bo. Football's an emotional game, man. I have no problem with a head coach like getting emotion on the sideline,
Starting point is 01:50:07 whether it's screaming out a fucking player if they, if they have it coming. But it's like it's just a context of yelling at the fans after a sloppy winning. It's a bad team with everything else that's going on. like people in philly are frustrated people exactly people in nova care are frustrated i think if he did that same thing after a big win or like a you know blowout win it's it's a completely different narrative yeah because then you're like oh they really kicked their ass i can't argue with them but at the same token the fans aren't doing the fans aren't chirping them if you guys are having a big win i don't
Starting point is 01:50:40 think oh no but had they had they had they blown the doors off these guys i think we'd be a little different about it they would be like come on nick we got to get rid of that stuff but it it almost feels like you lost the game and then you're out there talking shit like you won it and not to mention like there's only one way that you can gloat after that game and it's 80 to 20 like that's how bad the browns are like that's how much of a clown show this organization so nick seriani is the floyd mayweather of reading the room you know what i mean god damn is it is that bad he should have pulled it LeConnor. I would like to apologize to absolutely no one. Why is no one talking about the Brown's
Starting point is 01:51:25 defense? He got a haircut. Want to act like a whole new guy, you know? No, I just said that. I just said that Najib Carter. I said the Brown's defense is good. Had you won the game 20 to seven, everybody would be happy. You got to listen. You got to listen. You know? Nick's full response. What I was really doing, I was trying to bring energy yesterday, energy enthusiasm yesterday. I'm sorry and disappointed how my energy was directed at the end of the game. My energy should be all in on coaching and motivating, right? He's right. Now, let's never see it again, you know?
Starting point is 01:51:55 And if he's going to be here for a while, what they're going to have to do is turn it around to where they're winning games. You're supposed to win and winning them in ways that it looks like what you want to see. And they haven't looked like that since he really jawed at the fans at Arrowhead last year. And maybe this is the closing of the loop. you know you had to finally you had to you had to do it after a home game take your medicine now the curse is over maybe it's the curse of dick seriani talking shit i don't know how this would actually but um the next the next game we we we do want to hit it's in the state of pennsylvania it was in Vegas but it's the steelers it's the steelers where you got something to say you're like no no
Starting point is 01:52:37 no i was going to say is exciting i thought we might have an ad read no no no i was just going to say we like a quarterback change in Las Vegas didn't do anything with Aiden O'Connell. Let's, let's kick the tires on this Derek Carr thing. Yeah, I mean, Derek Carr somewhere. Derek Carr somewhere, 24. That's like my bumper sticker, my political bumper sticker. How many fans? How many Raiders fans? Besides giant meteor. Where's my giant meteor? Right above your head. Definitely giant meteor. Willie Nelson for president. But give me, give me Derek Carr anywhere, 24. So, uh, here, Pittsburgh. I'm just, before I start talking about what Pittsburgh did in this game, like the Raiders really fumbled the bag.
Starting point is 01:53:16 I want to give Pittsburgh a lot of credit, but the Raiders, the penalties in this game, okay, there were four of them that all cost points. The first one, Fields picking the red zone before the half, which he really hasn't done a lot of. You know, he missed some throws for sure, but he hasn't been a turnover machine. Bailed him out with a roughing call. They go up 12-7 as a result.
Starting point is 01:53:36 They score a couple plays later. Out of the half, it's 12 to 7. You're driving trying to take the lead. You hit an explosive. You're into plus territory. And there's a bogus hold. I don't think it was a great holding call on Cam Hayward. But it's a call and that kills the drive.
Starting point is 01:53:53 Chase on extends a drive on 3rd and 18, which is terrible. Steelers preferred to be in 3rd and 18 the whole day. You know, that drive extends and ends up 22 to 7. It should be a one-score game. You should be off the field. And then finally, when they have a chance to make it a one-score game, and they literally score a touchdown down 22 to 7 to hopefully make it 2215 if you get a two-pointer.
Starting point is 01:54:15 They've got a legal man downfield. And so those points come off the board and two plays later, it's the inevitability of T.J. Watt. The punchouts in this game, he had two of them. Just like Bo, Nate, myself, I can speak for myself. I look back at film of myself and I'm like, man,
Starting point is 01:54:36 you think, man, if I could do it a little bit different, situation. I might have made a big play. Like if I could have just gone back and done it again. And really, you're trick fucking yourself because you don't, you just don't have that playmaking ability that T.J. Watt does. It's the playmaking ability. It's like, it's the way the game moves so slowly for him in, in, in huge moments as the tackler or as the guy who's knocking down a screen or, you know, winning rushes. He's great at it. But the one thing that I think separates him from a lot of guys who win rushes is it's the plays on the ball all over the field and when things and what's this new alert news alert not yeah it's just the jaguars are trading roy robertson
Starting point is 01:55:21 harris maybe indicative of the fact that they see themselves as sellers holy shit that guy woke up today thinking one thing where they're sure but he's in london it doesn't matter though i mean fuck i mean i gotta south flight best flight mark that down best flight best flight best flight At least trade me to the team we're playing out there. We're talking about TJ what? When I used to come in and try to make a play on the ball, and I would fly in out of control of miss tackles, okay? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:47 If I was a better tackler, I might not be doing that. I'll be honest with you, man. I didn't even think to do like a peanut punch. No, there was no time. I'm on a block, dude. I'm like trying to get off of it. Like, how do you even fucking think to do that?
Starting point is 01:56:02 Like, it was a perfect job, like chasing it down, fucking. And it was like at the line of scrimmage too. It's great. He's not just a grunt. He's not just a great effort guy. He's also like just a very instinctive football player. And I can't say enough about him. I can't say enough about, you know, Hayward backed up close to the, the end zone in the fourth, you know, like just making his presence felt. And then like guys like Moon who's out there for Herbig and for High Smith. And you're like, who's this guy? Well, he ends up blocking a punt, if I'm not mistaken. And so, you know, there's little plays like Jalen Warren falling on that last. lateral like they're in the red zone um and they kick a field goal to make a 15 7 that's a big big deal it's after the block punt like they might get nothing justin through the ball backwards he beat all the raiders to the ball and it's it's like a little thing like that I'm just so impressed with the way mike tomlin gets his team ready to win and on the topic of justin fields speaking from mike tomlin's perspective I don't want to put words and thoughts in his mouth in his head but people are going to talk about justin fields after this game and he
Starting point is 01:57:05 miss some throws, but they're four and two. And he also made a lot of plays with legs. He's not turning the ball over at a high click. I think if you're Tomlin, you're saying, this is our guy for now, because it's working. We're winning games. And he's not even hitting the throws that I think he can hit. There were throws out of the pocket yesterday that I'd like him to hit. You know, and part of these are throws that nobody else is going to be able to hit because nobody else is going to be able to put themselves in a position to get out of trouble the way he does. So now, take that skill set, the separator you have, the differentiating factor,
Starting point is 01:57:40 and just being able to get there to make the throw, and now make the throw. And I think he has that in them. We saw it at different times in Chicago, and we've seen it at different times with Pittsburgh, but this was not a day where he hit a lot of those opportunistic explosives. So if we can get that done, you know, we're four and two. And I think Tomlin cares about winning.
Starting point is 01:58:01 You're talking about a guy who used to be in 500, right, the past half decades seven years they're a winning football team right now and so you know naji harris big runs i mean this is the guy running hard yeah it's the guy you want to see he juked the hell out of somebody in the hole yesterday but also the guys up front and by the way they're finally starting consecutive identical group up front on on offense now you lose fraser i think at the end of that game fraser that's a kind of a big loss for them man he's been playing really well for a young guy. You like it.
Starting point is 01:58:33 Yeah. I like it too. Yeah. And at the beginning of the game, they're moving people. Him and the other rookie. Moving people, Washington, burping somebody.
Starting point is 01:58:41 Like the young guys are blocking. And Max Crosby almost wrecked the game in the first half. They had five third and longs. Like I'm talking, after that trick play, it was third and 28. So part of it is like the play callers because Justin Fields didn't ask him to be in
Starting point is 01:58:57 third and 13, third and 15, the entire game. That's something. they got a fix that that's happened in them over the last couple weeks. But I thought overall, like, Naji Harris making his presence felt, you know, the guy's up front doing a pretty good job. And, you know, one of those plays, a lot of people, somebody called him soft a couple weeks ago.
Starting point is 01:59:17 Somebody on another team said he didn't run hard. That's what that's. Cordero ran the hard. Yeah. They said 84 run so hard. Which is a shot at Naji a little bit. I think he came out and said, hey, I'll show you fucking running. hard he'd not only juke jack jones but there was one play he got hit you know at the line of scrimmage
Starting point is 01:59:35 he's dragging six seven people 15 yards so the toss play he's jumping from the five-yard line in the end zone like this is the type of back if he plays like this they're they're scary if just in field there's a lot of ifs but if justin fields hits his shots and you can run the football it's a good team you might have said this but of his 106 rushing yards 63 were over expected yeah so it more than like almost 60%. Did a lot of the work himself. Yeah. But yeah, this is a good win for these guys,
Starting point is 02:00:07 and they are figuring it. It's a work in progress. The Russell Wilson thing, let's worry about that when they lose ball games, you know? I think they're going to be okay. What about Max Crosby? You see him pushing the coach?
Starting point is 02:00:22 You believe that that's a, don't do this. What? What are you going to say? I'm asking you what you thought of it. I mean, did we believe? I just, I think it was a push. Like, what else do you think it is? But what, what, you think he was mad?
Starting point is 02:00:37 Does it matter? Yes. It does. Oh, absolutely. And you acting like it doesn't is like great A take artist shit. It's just one of those things that we see guys pushing their coach. We see white guys pushing their coach. Oh, fuck off.
Starting point is 02:00:53 And if it happened, oh seriously, bro. I'm just saying, Travis Kelsey pushing, pushing Andy Reed. Because he pushed him when he was mad. You had. You had, you had, what are we talking about? No, seriously, what are you talking about, bro? So he, okay, he pushed him after a Sack. Mike Caldwell, like, yeah, Mike Caldwell's an unbelievable coach.
Starting point is 02:01:12 I was with him in Tampa. Mike doesn't give a fuck about that. That's the type of coach. You ever had a relationship with a coach? I used to headbutt a coach pregame. No. You would have been the guy being like, look at Chris Long, headbutting that coach. Oh, oh, it's a white guy.
Starting point is 02:01:25 What are we talking about, bro? All I'm saying is, what is all you're saying? All I'm saying. Say it. Say it out loud and all the way through. Out loud. Yeah. The inevitable.
Starting point is 02:01:35 When George Pickens pushes Tomlin, I don't want all, I don't want all this hurrah and, oh my God, get them out of here. I want everyone to be like, when did he push? That was the love push.
Starting point is 02:01:47 I'm saying, I'm saying, okay, give me, give me, give me the last, give me the last, give me the last,
Starting point is 02:01:52 give me the, since you made it a race thing. You made it a race thing. You made it a race thing. Okay. Which, which to me. , Okay.
Starting point is 02:01:58 facts. Hold on. If we do a racial draft, Dave Chappelle style, I don't know where Max is going high. I don't want to speak for anybody at all. But like I thought he was like cool guy. And now you, a former D. Lyman, no shame on you a little bit. A former D. Lyman who, who, yeah, who who who's probably pushed a guy after you made a sack. Like when we celebrate his football, now you're going to act like you just never, you act like you weren't even born.
Starting point is 02:02:28 You act like you didn't even play in the NFL now. You're just, you're acting like Skip Bayliss, bro. This is a real Skip Bayless moment for you. Congrats. You made it into a race thing. To my defense, I only had one and a half sacks. And after them, I didn't push anybody. Maybe because it happened.
Starting point is 02:02:44 I'm not being a dick, but maybe it happened in garbage time. What do you? Because, because what, like, what, we're really taking shots at Max because he pushed a coach in excitement. Who's his boy? Ask his boy what he thinks. All I'm saying is, what is what you're saying. I'm just asking you, man.
Starting point is 02:02:59 You didn't ask. You had a take. I'm just saying. Hey, if you got, yeah, Fax is reaching. Check his rotator cuff. White players get a pass. Don't let him side. Tristan Jones.
Starting point is 02:03:12 The most shocking thing in the world. Yes, white players get a pass. But that doesn't mean you have to like turn your brain off in this situation. No, you don't. Players with neck tattoos don't get a pass, though, you know? Well, no, but hold on a second. I just want to make sure that the chat is, as crazy as Nate's being.
Starting point is 02:03:30 Because last week, I think I was the one who said Bo Nick shouldn't, we should realize that Bo Nick's yelling at a coach, white quarterback yelling at a coach. Let's not act like I don't think this shit through every time something happens. So don't have your straw man with me. Have it with somebody else. It's funny, but like Max Crosby,
Starting point is 02:03:48 I hope you hear this, Max, and I hope you bury him. Dad. Why bury me? Why bury me, you know? You're spreading misinformation. I'm not spreading misdiver. I'm just, I'm just, you brought it up. What I, he said it was a love push and all I'm saying is in the future what when other players God, you guys are, you guys are, I don't want to say the word, but you guys are facts as a point. You guys are
Starting point is 02:04:12 stupid. He doesn't like that. No, no, no, it doesn't really matter. It just means you guys don't know anything. And that's okay. And he's the cheerleader of the don't know anything team. Hey, someone needs a cheerleader. Everyone needs cheerleaders. So if that's the, that's the squad, I got a cheer for. What up, chat? You can't just say whatever you want because something bad happens somewhere else. That's just what we've turned into. Like, what are we talking about here? The guy pushed his coach who he loves after a sack. I used to push. Do you know how hard I pushed that? You know who said the same thing? I've done that. Am I a racist? You know who to said the same thing? Am I racist? Am I racist? Am I racist? I'm one of your best friends. No. No. No, no. I never called. So you'd be calling
Starting point is 02:04:53 What would you be calling me? I'm not, I'm not saying this is a racist thing. Well, why'd you bring race into it? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm not saying, I'm not calling it. Yeah, you did. I'm not calling him racist.
Starting point is 02:05:05 That's hate. That's hate. Chat, you got my back. Chat, you got my back. Chat. Ha, ha, ha, ha. I think it's ridiculous. Because some people I like on the timeline yesterday were going there, and I was like,
Starting point is 02:05:23 oh, you're stupid all the side. I was like, we're just being stupid. No, I think the main thing is that, bro, if that's a black player doing that, the narrative is always different from the jump. I believe him that it's a love push, but all I'm saying is if this happens, start a false narrative despite a false narrative is what you're saying. Yeah, maybe, maybe so, maybe so. That's the internet game that I'm so tired of in modern day America.
Starting point is 02:05:50 But also too, Rodgers was trying to, Aaron Rogers was trying to say that was a love push. in next week. But who defended him? A few weeks after that, the coach is fired. How is that anywhere close to the same thing, though? We'll see. Time will tell. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:06:06 Time will tell. And it's just, you don't think that black NFL football players get the same, you know, narrative bias as white ones do, even though there's a starting quarterback in the NFL with a lot of sexual assault allegations against him. Oh, that's interesting. Like, despite playing like, no comment. That's interesting. No comment, but like a white guy paved away for that, but let's move on.
Starting point is 02:06:32 So we're not doing. Oh, wait, if it was around the horn, if this was around the horn, I'm going, bloop, plop. I'm totally reality. And we happen to be on that symbol. So let's just get off of it. I'm just not going to sit up because I know what it was. And I just think misinformation sucks. This is the age of, and this isn't just a you, Nate.
Starting point is 02:06:53 just saying is the era of misinformation throughout the world. The truth is, it's hard to find because nobody gives a fuck about the truth anymore. The truth is so far from what I saw like being shared by aggregators yesterday. It's the most dangerous thing in the world. Not in the world. Dangerous would be like a real life issue. Imagine we had misinformation on real life issues. But I'm talking about football where it's like this guy who's done nothing as a teammate but the right things.
Starting point is 02:07:20 Nothing is a player but the right things. he's a he's a cultural icon in that building like he's a guy that any coach would be like i want that guy on my team and you got aggregators who make their entire existence like da vclim and whoever's running that fucking account is is is is eating a russian is eating pop ramen if it's not for his twitter account and the fucking guy is using it to spread misinformation about one of the best players in the game and and it's bullshit and you're falling into it and that's all i'm saying you're falling into the trap what's next we got what's next great great moment at what cost Nate at what cost putting the battery in my back at what cost you pick my favorite player
Starting point is 02:08:09 you're like yeah the guy well I'm just saying he might hate black people I'm not saying but what I'm just saying I wasn't saying that I just don't know think that was a love push. It was a love push. He just got a sack. What's he mad about? Tell me, make it make sense. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 02:08:34 I can't do this. I hate my job sometimes. I love the people at work, but I hate the work sometimes. And I hate some of the people in the chat sometimes. It's just like... What up, chat?
Starting point is 02:08:46 Yeah. I don't mind them. They're calling... Nate is not right about Bo Nex. I was right about Bo Nex. I'm the one who said if that was a black player, it'd be different. Now, somebody's going to complain about how the mic's overmodulated. I'll give a fuck.
Starting point is 02:09:05 I'm the one who said Bo Nex would be treated differently as a black quarterback. I'm fair and balanced. What happens if a black head coach yells at the fans after a win? Oh. Oh, buddy. I think we might have an answer to that question. Oh, man. Dove Kilbush's name?
Starting point is 02:09:32 If he got a hold of that, his engagements would be, whoo. Crazy. Golly. We got to move on. We got to move on. Time of the chat's having fun in here. Chat.
Starting point is 02:09:49 Somebody came and said, Dr. Fax once said the teams that teams that play the lions lose the next week typically. Ah. You're going to hear a two-lane joke on some other show. Macon's going to. All my homies hate Dove. Can we all agree on this, though? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:17 That the aggregators have totally lost the plot. In the last year and a half, like, hey, I believe in God, but ML football has become, it's become, it's ML football. It's like, it's wild. It's like you're Joel Olstein, bro. I used to pray before games. I pray every time I take off in a metal tube. I pray at night.
Starting point is 02:10:38 You know, I don't hate, I don't hate religion. But this ML football has become like, it's like everybody's getting paid to do something on the internet. It's hilarious. Oh. You got to know what people want to click on, man. It's a talent. Brett.
Starting point is 02:10:54 Brett Stillman said in her Trump voice, they're pushing the coaches. They're pushing the coaches. They are pushing the coaches, yo. What's up with that? Yeah, but that get complicated if that's a talking point. You know what I mean? But my thing is like it gets complicated because what happens when one of the coaches in the moment wants to push back?
Starting point is 02:11:20 Because they do sometime. bro i knocked a coach over in my playing career i came off the field after a sack and knocked my coach on the ground must be nice privilege i love you bro it was just a layoff i know it was a layout my bad no it's all good it's all good it's all good colts titans it's all good Shack came on set the other day where I'm doing an interview on inside the NFL. It's just me and R.C. and Ocho. And Shack comes on and he goes, R.C. Ocho, good to see? Who's the white guy? All right. Colts Titans. Are we officially? Colts Titans. Yeah. What's next?
Starting point is 02:12:12 Is Will Levis, he cooked? Seven Circle of Hell team. Yeah. Honestly, it's crazy. Yeah, they're cooked. Fucking rotisserie. And here's the problem with this team. I like rotisserie chicken.
Starting point is 02:12:24 I like eating in my car sometimes. Love it. Nothing better than a rotisserie chicken in your SUV sitting in the parking lot. But this team is not the good rotissory chicken. This is like the, you know, this is what's the bottom of the barrel? Walmart. Walmart, Ritory chicken. Walmart's right.
Starting point is 02:12:41 I ate the rotissory chicken with the chicken man at the pier last year. It was pretty good. but he had been eating that rotisserie chicken. Being a Titans fan feels like being the chicken man. You got to eat rotissory chicken from Walmart every day. Every day you see your team play. Will Levis is putting together a generational run. I know it's been said, but like spots he's like he's like the evil Forrest Gump.
Starting point is 02:13:05 He's in every fucked up situation. You know like how Forrest Gump he used to be all the cool places. Well, Will Lever. Lewis is in all the bad places. And he, he torpedoed another member of the chain gang. They need to give these guys jet packs. Didn't even check on them. Or didn't even this guy is kidding. The guy got his his leg just snapped in half. He's like, what about me? The four pms is watching aircast. They're watching Aiden Hutchinson. He's like, what about me? You know, I, Will Levis. I wasn't even having a DPOY year. I'm just getting paid to hold the chains. There's no adrenaline being in the chain gang. You go
Starting point is 02:13:46 from like you know as a football player if you get hurt your adrenaline's pumping so you might not feel it for a second this guy's going from like from like de-t-de-de-de-de-to I've never felt a pain like that in my life I'm a civilian what the fuck am I doing one of my old coaches used to say you nothing good happens when you're standing around with straight legs no realistically those not in a wedding not in a football game anywhere those guys are literally standing around with straight legs that's hold it that's why that coach got knocked back because he was standing there with straight legs he got bend his knees when max comes off the field but bro here's the thing i blame the coach here's the thing here's the thing about this game that i want to bring up i did bet the titans it's a kink okay
Starting point is 02:14:33 are they everybody's got a kink my kink it's nothing nasty it's not putting them on the list with with the jags then huh you're going to bet them again call them out like you did my jag No, they're not on the DMB list. What? You would bet the Titans again? Yeah, I would. I would bet the Titans again. Because some people, you don't understand, sometimes I bet things for the experience.
Starting point is 02:14:57 And you'll say, okay, Rich guy, and I'll say, yeah. Okay? That's fine. Look, he has a meme for every week. He's on a generational run for memes. Bro, it's just these games should be watched. And so people must bet the Titans. Okay.
Starting point is 02:15:11 And maybe this is a good week's ever to bet the Titans. Titans. What is this? What is this? This is like it's not a gun. Spider-Man. Spider-Man. Oh, it's Spider-Man? Web. I thought he was doing something else. Shocker. Yeah, I was like, this guy, he's got a sex tape, and now he's just
Starting point is 02:15:30 doing the thing. So here's what I want to say in all seriousness about this team. There are guys like Calvin Ridley on this team who, in the spirit of of not spreading misinformation. Somebody said he got eight targets yesterday. I'm gonna, in what universe are those targets? Like, in what I totally get where he's coming from at the end of the game where they're like, hey,
Starting point is 02:15:58 you know, you got eight, the answer's in the question, but he's like, you got eight targets early in the game. Like, you know, is there something that needs to happen for you to get going? And he's like, yeah, throw me the fucking ball like into my zip code, dude. Like in my general vicinity. like these balls not a single one of those targets in the first half were anywhere near him 21 routes for a total of 145 targeted air yards and and do you like yeah that's a lot of targeted air yards but the issue is like you're talking about the targets like they're targets
Starting point is 02:16:28 yeah their targets like they're targets like if i was trying to hit that tv and i hit the door it's not even close yeah and so like what sucks for that guy is you know he's building a reputation because of his stop in Jacksonville and now he's in Tennessee and you know all these fans are like you suck you're not worth the money and like that's the reality of being the NFL is like this guy has no control little to no control over what's happening under center and quite honestly i don't think levice is as bad as people think i'll just say that maybe maybe i'm giving him a pass Nate right maybe this is another think piece from you but but i do think this offense is a bad fit for this guy and maybe the offense is a bad fit for anybody it takes a long time to be decisive.
Starting point is 02:17:14 Sit his ass like they did Malik. Oh, I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I'm fine with them sitting Will Levis, but what I'm saying is Callahan comes in and he's running a quick, quick operation. Like if you watch Sincey, it's spread it out, get the ball out quick.
Starting point is 02:17:29 And I don't think Levis is decisive enough. I think he's, he's this guy is like a bell curve. He's not going to be good in the first half second of the down, you know, like two is really good in the first second. And then Levis, like, he could make some shit happen here, but then late in the down, like, let's just burn the ball. Let's not do. So I really describing a quarterback who needs a lot to go right. But he is not, I don't think he's as bad as he's looked so far this year. I just think, like, this offense is not for him. And the most important thing is the guy you hired. And so the guy you hired is Calhann. You got to play to this offensive strengths. And he just doesn't,
Starting point is 02:18:09 It's not like a quick reaction deal with him. And I just don't think they, I don't think it fits him. Not that he would fit any offense necessarily right now, but I do think it's worse than it even, it's less bad than it looks, if that's the case. I've seen him make some plays. I don't want to just make this a dump on Will Levis thing. But ultimately, this is why they're not winning games.
Starting point is 02:18:32 Because the defense is pretty good. Mason Rudolph time? I would love to see Mason Rudolph, but he won much better. Yeah, got to give him a chance, though. They did. He's already played. The game was honestly fun to watch. It was a fun game to watch. For both QBs, every time they throw the ball,
Starting point is 02:18:50 it can either go for an explosive for the offense or it's going the other way. Like, you're literally on the edge of your seat every time. There were almost as many incompletions thrown in this game as completions. You have 29 incompletions. If you include the interceptions, both of them threw one as completions with 38. Don't get me wrong. I don't like the kid.
Starting point is 02:19:10 I'm just saying you come out of this game and you're like he's the worst. You watch the Titans player. He might be the worst quarterback of all time. I think part of it is bad fit too. But he's not great. And Callahan, like Pollard is doing a nice job for them. But the defense is wasting a really nice year. Yeah, you feel bad for the defense.
Starting point is 02:19:34 Now they zero up at the end of the game. And Flacco just make. and Flacco magic happen. You know, I can't say enough about Joe Flacco. I don't know. I just had to bring up the fact that they hurt my boy, the chain gang guy, bro.
Starting point is 02:19:50 They're trying to take out the chain gang so that they can usher in this new robo technology. So everybody's got the robot thing going on right now. But I don't know. Those robots might be too sturdy because imagine rolling into the legs that it was robots. Might hurt the players. You always see the Boston dynamic.
Starting point is 02:20:08 videos of the robots jumping. They would figure the fuck out of guys on the side of this. Oh, yeah, maybe. I wonder how well their awareness would be. I guess it would have to be faster. Do you think of Will Levis was the Browns quarterback? He'd be benched so far. I don't even know what happened in the Atlanta, Carolina game.
Starting point is 02:20:29 Real fast, Matt Roth wants to know after watching Will Levis's play, do you regret the Mayo thing at the beginning of the season? Oh, absolutely. That shit smelled terrible. I put mayo all over my body. But I'm going to tell you the truth. I didn't really bet the Titans win total. And these guys know it.
Starting point is 02:20:48 We just needed to have a funny skit. That was the television. There was no way I was betting. I'm going to tell you the wind totals I'm on. The lions, the commanders, the Seahawks, all overs. Those look good. The ones that don't look so good, Cincinnati and Jacksonville. I was like, why is Jacksonville?
Starting point is 02:21:07 down here at eight like they they got better no they didn't and Shane Steichen said that Anthony Richardson will play Sunday if he does not suffer any setbacks note note the word play not start oh that's interesting yeah maybe it's like a little pack they're gonna start it maybe they're doing that taste them hill package I love it I love it no question I wonder if Tate some hill pushing any coaches yesterday perfect candidate to push a coach perfect candidate. Atlanta Carolina, early in this game,
Starting point is 02:21:42 it looked like Andy Dalton had some magic up his sleeve and he was going to make the, but some point in the second half, they pulled away. That's all I have to say. I'm going to say, sometimes the game gets the short end
Starting point is 02:21:51 of the stick. Chat, do you want to tell us what happened in this game? Having gotten there, having gotten there, Atlanta Falcons taking care of business, though, on the road, in a game where it could be sleepy.
Starting point is 02:22:01 And this is a trap spot. Like, I gave the Panthers out, and for half the game, I was like, yeah. I know how to buy teams low. I think the biggest thing this game, they run for 198 yards coming off, you know,
Starting point is 02:22:14 Thursday night over the bucks or whatever that was. You know, it was like air assault in this game. Kirk only through or completed 19 passes or through 9, yeah, completed 19 passes. They're just showing they can win in different ways and they're able to maximize all those weapons they have around Kirk.
Starting point is 02:22:30 It was the first, first time they had led by more than eight points. and the first time that they were leading that they didn't trail in the final month of the fourth quarter. Man, I mean... Every team they played close. Yeah, this game, fine. Yeah, and in this game, it just got out from under them at the end there.
Starting point is 02:22:50 I thought they had a chance at the cover. But this is like, hey, Atlanta, you played a lot of close games, had to, had to, that's what you just said. Yeah. You just got to pull away and take care of these teams. Which is what they did. In division. Yep.
Starting point is 02:23:04 You know, it's a divisional game. Like this is not always going to be easy. You're keeping pace with the other teams that have used the Panthers as a stat pattern. Yep, no question. And next week, Washington has that opportunity. Washington's got that opportunity. And look at, bro. I was happy to see that, man.
Starting point is 02:23:24 I was happy to see him get a Tud. Supposedly, just tell you something. Friday night I was sleeping, right, as I do. And my wife was sleeping next to me as she'd done. and I'm supposedly talking to my sleep more these days. And you know, you're always worried when she's like, you were talking to your sleep last night. You're like, what was I saying?
Starting point is 02:23:46 I'm not, I don't do anything wrong, but I'm just like, what was I saying? Because I don't know what that sleepy guy's saying in his, like, dreams. She goes, you said, automatic tug. Swear to God, she's not lying. Must have been talking about Justin Fields. Shout out to my five-year-old Luke who had a touchdown Saturday morning. I'm just saying his first lifetime touchdown.
Starting point is 02:24:11 Automatic Tud for Luke. Oh, wait, Luke. I don't know if it was automatic Tud for our guy, Corlin Sutton, or somebody. But I was talking about automatic tuds in my sleep. Probably Madden, honestly. The fucking connection on that game has been terrible lately. Oh, man. Terrible.
Starting point is 02:24:28 You're turning to one of those guys. What? You'd be laggy. Oh, laggy. It's laggy as fuck. I think people are lag switching me. Talking about anytime. I said Tud,
Starting point is 02:24:40 not automatic tug, Nathan. He's talking about was it Watson? Do you remember the football player Matt Roth? Yeah, I thought that was Matt Roth in the chat. That's what I thought it was. It would be cool if it was Matt Roth.
Starting point is 02:24:57 Because he was a dog. I play with a jacket. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. Okay. Okay, okay. Talking about automatic Tud,
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Starting point is 02:25:45 if your player scores second you get your stake back in cash keep that in mind next time you throw in a first touchdown score bet with bet mGM happy hunting Matt ross said that he gets confused for the football Matt roth all the time i'm sure just walking around too chat how we doing today huh chat i like the chat i love the chat i love i fucking in the words of ochosinko i fucking love you and it's moments time so the chat's got to be getting stoked moments time it's time it's time you want to start us off Nate yeah i'm going best flight to my old team the chicago bears flying back from london heading into a bye week after a nice convincing when I feel like that's probably a real, real good flight, whether you want to stay up and joke around and horse play on the plane
Starting point is 02:26:41 or you just want to rest. You just want to rest on the way back to O'Hare and probably have to sit on the runway for an hour once you land. No question. Wait for the everybody unload the equipment. It used to be the worst waiting for the equipment guys. And I know they're working hard. And we can't leave without our equipment.
Starting point is 02:27:01 still like let us like man we got to go yeah like we don't have nothing to do with that um not at the moment we don't so uh best flight go ahead uh beau what you got i'll take third got to be got to be the lion's coming back from uh dallas throwing a little jerry jones birthday party on the plane after a fat dub it's good flight that's a really good flight uh i'm just you you mentioned roy robertson harris's play that's the best flight roy robertson harris's play that's the best flight roy roi roberts and best flight you wake up this morning probably hungover in jacksonville no they're in london i mean in london i mean yeah i know but they're in london i miss speak a lot they're in london and it is a tough place to be hung over it's a dreary place um and you're thinking i'm going to be here another week they might
Starting point is 02:27:52 fire my head coach it's going to be like the worst flight home i play for the jags all of a sudden you're going to seattle going to seattle with a pretty good group up front and a few injuries you can a few injuries and you know they need you they need you so this is good you get out jail free card but what type of flight are they sending me back on that's the thing well
Starting point is 02:28:12 like that's the thing I don't care if you got to put me in the back of a cargo plane if that's what it takes to leave the fucking if I got to ride a raft across the Atlantic Ocean chill out alien people don't do that across the Atlantic Ocean
Starting point is 02:28:29 from London you said chill out who? Alien Gonzalez. No, he's not coming from Europe, bro. And I said Atlantic Ocean for that very reason. But you know what I'm saying. I do. You know, you think I.
Starting point is 02:28:44 Jesus. No, I'm more like one of those guys. You see those guys with the sailboats? It's like peak white boeing. Yeah. They're just like, I'm going to fucking sail all the way across the Atlantic. Mandiland Island boy. Whatever happened to those guys.
Starting point is 02:28:59 I have no idea. The island boys? Oh, man, you don't want to know. Dude, is it ever worth, is it ever worth the porn? In fact, yeah, but like, they started only fans, right? Incest with each other. You don't want to know about it. Keep it moving.
Starting point is 02:29:13 I'm sorry, you guys brought it up. Like, I don't want you to keep talking about it. Not good. You don't want to know about that. Is the quick bag ever enough for one of these viral stars? Or they just have to, like, ruin their whole life? They're like, take the bag and invest it. when the money drives up, we'll just fuck each other.
Starting point is 02:29:32 Really? You've been fucking killing me. This is the funniest you've ever been. Well, just accuse my favorite player of racism. Worst flight. You know, he killed Mike Lombardi on the Pat McAvey show. He's going to kill you. He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, they're going to be like, which guy?
Starting point is 02:29:55 He's going to make the black guy. He's like, see? Oh, man. Worst flight. Worst flight, the island boy. No, worst flight. Fucking worst flight. You guys tell me.
Starting point is 02:30:15 I'm going with, even though this was Bow's best flight, on the contrary. The lion is probably had the worst flight without their star, D-Lyman on the flight with them who just broke his leg. So I think that maybe that flight might have been kind of bad with the coaches, probably up there like, hey, guys, we won this game, but we have to fill this void some way somehow.
Starting point is 02:30:40 Who's going to step up? What are we going to do? I think good times we're at on that flight home. I think regardless, you feel for your boy, but you worry about it. Like, you've got to enjoy these moments. And I know part of you's always like, man, I hope Aden's okay. Once they hear that he's stabilized and surgery went well, I think Dennis. They just announced that actually.
Starting point is 02:30:59 Yeah. The lines just puts them out on social media saying that the surgery went well and he's responded like well and shit like that. Yeah. So I guess worst flight from, we're on worst flight? Yep. Worst flight. We never gave.
Starting point is 02:31:16 Is it ever too late to give it to the Gostercherillus? At the time I didn't want to make it, you know, but that was a pretty bad flight. I'm out of flights. worst flight worst flight I got one the Arizona flight had to suck Arizona flight had to suck I had a green bay
Starting point is 02:31:34 from Green Bay yeah how about the guys flying through that hurricane huh I saw those guys flying through that hurricane there's a bunch of turbulence in there why the fuck were they doing that about yeah I don't have a word I don't have a worse flight not a lot of good shit going on in Florida this week let me tell you that
Starting point is 02:31:49 I don't have I got a worse yeah I got a worse flight Jags no flight stay in your ass in London, eating that shitty ass London food, dude. I don't know if you guys played in London, but like, I played in London with the bucks and the food. I just didn't like it, all right? I didn't
Starting point is 02:32:06 like the London experience at all. And we also got our ass beat by the Panthers. Anyway, sucks to be a shitty team, and I have to stay in London. Man, that's crazy to hear the Panthers. The Thurs? The Thurs. Damn, well, you got
Starting point is 02:32:21 you got worked by the Thur. This was this was $2018 bucks, 30 for 30 J-boo, you know. Not a good year to be as a player a bucking. Who was,
Starting point is 02:32:30 yeah, a lot of sudden change. Get a big stop on defense. Go out, go over the bench. Don't even fucking take your helmet off. No. All right.
Starting point is 02:32:40 So what's next? Bevels. Conway. And the Panthers probably not showing up in this, in Beville Conway. I hope they don't, even though they came out with those. No,
Starting point is 02:32:49 it's actually not going to be a football team. It's going to be Duolipa wearing a football jersey. Oh. It's okay. My wife knows. I missed that one. It was like a Texas jersey. And then they started putting her in like a Sam Darnold jersey.
Starting point is 02:33:02 I think it's like AI. Why would she like the Vikings? Oh. Could we get Duelapah Kelly Green jersey? Yeah. That's Lizzo's territory. Get her a commander's jersey. Get her a commander's jersey?
Starting point is 02:33:16 Yeah. You know, Patrick Queen was trying to shoot a shot at her last year. I was pulling for him. I don't think, I think he came up just short. I think the Hail Mary was about like the Malik Willis Hail Mary in Brazil. Beville Conway. I'm going with Thursday nights game, Seahawks versus the Niners. Those Seahawks jerseys.
Starting point is 02:33:42 Yeah? That's a good one. I think they should wear them every week, honestly. But I didn't think it looked as good with the Niners, all whites, for some reason. White. All white. All white. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:52 I hate all white uniforms. Bo, where were you at, Bevel Comway? I like Texans and Patriots. I like the Patriots red uniforms. I thought they were kind of sick. Flying Elvis, right? Flying Elvis is awesome. They look awesome.
Starting point is 02:34:07 These teams, they look cool for one week, and they're like, let's go back to Lugent City. Now, what didn't look awesome with the anti-Bevelcomway? Broncos back to normal, Jags back to normal, like, ugh. Broncos, how can you go out there in blue pants the next week and an orange top? Utah. Like you said, Utah. U-Taps.
Starting point is 02:34:24 Anti-Bevel. What? Nick Siriani, Yonge Fats. That's a good one. Not one's ugly. Ugly. That's a bad look. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:34:36 Bad look. What was the big college football game this weekend? Oregon. Oregon. Yeah. Yeah, that was nice. Did Dan Lannning do the 12 people on the field thing on purpose? Oh, 100.
Starting point is 02:34:48 That was really good. That was a genius. I love that. I love that. I love when coaches exploit the rules a little bit. Yeah. Do you like Dan Lanning? Me?
Starting point is 02:34:59 Like Dan Lanning? He has a face that makes you want to just. Yeah, why I oughta. Yeah. Why I oughta? But, but if he was my coach. So you want to push him. He would push him.
Starting point is 02:35:11 Oh. He pushed the coach. Do you remember his racist rant last year pre-game where he said that Colorado likes TikTok? Yeah. It was racist. what I don't like is one of his players spitting on somebody oh I don't like that either
Starting point is 02:35:27 god doesn't like ugly you saw what happened to saints last couple weeks oh you got an anti-bevel uh yeah colt's titans just didn't do it it looked like fucking bad Colt's Titans just didn't do it
Starting point is 02:35:42 it did not get that the football was almost unwatchable but yeah jersey yeah limp limp dick football Bad jersey combos. Not a fan.
Starting point is 02:35:52 Okay. Flying the wall. Fly on the wall. How about Jerry Jones walking into that Dallas locker? I had that too. Like, how could it not be? I wanted to,
Starting point is 02:36:02 he actually got quite the walk. He was, he was pissed. That's why you want to know so bad because he was walking, like he knew what he, he knew what he was going to stay on his mind. He had it.
Starting point is 02:36:12 He was walking right through those doors. He wasn't even waiting for them to stop behind. He was, oh yeah. That was going to be good. Oh, yeah. You're just sick and tired of him by now. if you're a player right like a loss like that like you don't want to see yeah if you're going to be
Starting point is 02:36:25 talking about our meat you better be good at what you do and he won five playoffs that's what i'm saying the last that's what i'm since that came out even before that but since that came no it's the curse it's just to see him walk into the locker room after the game where you might be naked or just had been naked you're just like you got to be like yeah i'm over this shit like what is he like what is he doing? Like, what are you doing? No idea. What are you going to come in here and say? You're going to do the same thing you've done the last 20 years? Just sing him happy birthday real quick.
Starting point is 02:36:56 Yeah, that's why he was going into the locker and the team was going to sing happy birthday. On his birthday. He thought they had a cake for it. Imagine if they did do that while they were losing. Like, yo, the boss is coming. Let's think I'm happy birthday. Forget about this loss. But I really don't want to know. Well, I don't want to know. I don't want to know. Bo, who is your fly on the wall? If I fly on the wall is the sideline of the Chargers game, it's like when Harbaugh goes in the tent and then into the locker, but it's like, yo, is our head coach dead? Like, what's it?
Starting point is 02:37:27 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, what happened with that? What's the general mood? What happened with that? They got him on the table. Like they just hit him with a quick little clear. Clear, dude. Got him back into sinus rhythm and he's good to go.
Starting point is 02:37:43 Sinus rhythm, bro. The blue tint. and we don't got no cameras in the blue tent no cameras best seat oh i know the blue tent yeah it'd be great to be inside the blue tent to really see what's going on that's a hippo violation though to be in the blue tent i got i got i got a medical stuff right yeah what you got bo best seat is nick siuriani junior just oblivious to the criticism enjoying their big podium moment getting his his uh cheek pinched you know what though like here's a deal it it is it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a
Starting point is 02:38:16 Delicate thing because and I don't want anybody think we're bringing his family into it or making fun of his family. That's not what any of us are doing. I think like when you're a kid and I've been to work with my dad in the NFL, like it's a fucking cool moment. That kid doesn't know anything. You know, the beautiful thing is he's not old enough to go to school and like read social media, I would hope. But that's also not listening to WIP. That's another thing. Like Sala's family, somebody said this that like Sala's family's probably.
Starting point is 02:38:46 heard about it in school like you know like they're in school and so rogers got fired you know um well that's definitely true mm-hmm yeah the kids are probably like your dad's getting 20 Gs a day bro somebody said nick pulls out the ass word to deflect reporters classy i mean we don't care about class what we care about is is making the right decisions um this silly philly fans care about class We hate, Philly fans hate the guys so much right now that they're complaining about him cussing after the game. That is funny. Language. That is funny.
Starting point is 02:39:26 Language, you motherfucker. Best seat. Right now, best seat. Bill Belichick, because a bunch of jobs are about to open up and he's going to have this big. So I said, I was in an Uber on the way to inside the NFL like a week or two ago. My Uber driver was like, Bill Belichick's coming to Philadelphia. and I was like, he's already here for inside the NFL,
Starting point is 02:39:49 which is now on Wednesday on the CW 98 Central. And Bill's, he's doing the perfect rollout too. All these, all these rumors about him being stuck up and tight and like his teams are no fun. Bill looks like he's a ton of fucking fun. He is fun.
Starting point is 02:40:09 Like regardless if he is, like when he's coaching. Exactly. Like regardless if he is coaching, like while he's coaching, I just feel like if you're an owner, you're like, you know what? I want that guy to run my team. Both said he's got a 24-year-old girlfriend. It looks fun. Yeah, baby.
Starting point is 02:40:27 Well, I'll tell you what's fun about Bill Belichick is winning. Yeah. You know, and I'll tell you what's fun about, you know, because I've been on the other side of this when, like, Lane's my friend and he went on part of my take. And, of course, that was a big joke interview where they're like trying to get him to say whatever. and he said hey it's not fun up there like everybody knows that well first off that's what new england fans want you to think so he's actually agreeing with you if you're a new england fan it's all business but the truth of the matter is playing for bill the fun thing is knowing that your coaches are on every detail the fun thing is knowing that no stone's going to be left unturn the fun thing is
Starting point is 02:41:05 like after games you know knowing that it's going to get fixed or if you made a good play your coach saw it, you know, that your coaches are actually watching tape. There are some fucking buildings where I'm like, did you even break down the game or is everybody just rushing to cover their ass after game? And for me, right now, the Philadelphia Eagles organization
Starting point is 02:41:24 seems like a little more flare-over function. And it has for a little bit now. And so I just want to see Nick like kind of lock in and take something from those coaches who aren't as fun. Like, hey, start
Starting point is 02:41:41 putting the clamps down on the process start start leading that way um but yeah bill you talk about the jet's job they're looking at him people talking about bill and philly and i got to come to work with him every week not got to because i love doing it but like i haven't asked once like what are you doing because i'm afraid he's leaving inside the nfl and i'm like dude you're you're you're awesome it's fun working with him so anyways did did you have a best seat best seat um best seat sean payton on down. Worst seat actually. But yeah, I was just saying. Worst seat, worst seat. John Payton on third down. Oh, boy. Oh my goodness. What do the fuck do we call? Because what are you guys on third down on the air? Oh boy. Like 30%? If that. Like this isn't the MLB, cuzo.
Starting point is 02:42:31 You know, you got a fucking 333 is not going to get it done on third down. Third down. we are somebody said Bill had his dog make the first pick in the first round in the NFL draft during COVID I respect that bro I like cap for life he's got a lot of good
Starting point is 02:42:55 comment and he types in all caps which I love cap for life I thought he was saying he caps a lot so he really types in all caps every no no because he went lowercase recently
Starting point is 02:43:09 so see that's cap bro that's cap for life Broncos 25% on third down offensive. I just, you know what I want from my coach? That's 31st in the league. Fucking realness, dude. Just be real.
Starting point is 02:43:22 Just be real, dude. Tell me when I'm fucking up. Tell me when I'm doing something good. Level with me as a man. Don't make any win too big. Don't make any loss too big. Walk back in and fix it. But Nate, we're seat.
Starting point is 02:43:36 We're seat. Jerry Jones at his stadium on his 82nd birthday. That's a bad one. Watching this team get the dog shit kicked out of them. And for real, for real, any season ticket holder for the Cowboys this year, you're at least used to seeing your team win at home all the time. Yeah, those tickets are expensive. And that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:44:02 And it's just like, I don't feel bad for them because, like, that's what happened. When you buy season tickets, you can't expect your team to be good every year. It's a blessing if your team is good. I can't see the four trucks. fucking sun set of my eyes. Yo, see, bro,
Starting point is 02:44:20 just seeing them keep showing Jerry. You got the new King Ranch on a rotating platform. I can't see it. Can't see it. Can't see it.
Starting point is 02:44:28 Half the stadium's blinded. The players are blinded. Jerry's just up there on his birthday. Just like, Danz are throwing up on the concourse. Fans throwing up. Get gritty on.
Starting point is 02:44:40 That stadium is Sodom and Gomorrah. It is. There's only, some dumb asses fighting just people fighting in the concourse over a football game there's people puking in the concourse there's trucks there's women there's cheerleaders there's
Starting point is 02:44:53 you know it's just like a big American fucking fucking it's like uh what's the word amalgam it was the word amalgamation amalgamation of like American culture SAT word yeah dude it's just like let's get all the trucks
Starting point is 02:45:09 the cheerleaders the as much sun as we can get as many high price high price let's parade the visiting team through a let's walk through through fucking through they basically he's like walking through the inside of a refrigerator man there's a bunch of people just staring at you like your yogurt and you're like it's crazy dude that fucking stadium sucks oh look how long this tunnel is i'll just roast your stadium you want me to roast the stadium i'll roast it tell me a stadium i'll roast it that stadium sucks it takes entirely too long to drive the bus into that thing. It's like, oh, it's a fucking 20 minute ride in a tunnel under the stadium. Oh,
Starting point is 02:45:47 the engineering. Oh. Roost the link. No. Because the link's actually not trying to do too much. The link is a proper football stadium. It really is. I don't know, Chris. We got lost in there for like No, name another stadium. I like some stadiums. I just did the link. Name another one. Name another one. Soldier Field. Soldier Field is a proper stadium. No. If they ever get, okay, that's hate. They have, no, they have terrible footing, the grass. The grass sucks, but if you're looking at like the stadium, it's a gorgeous stadium. That grass took my ACL. I'm still mad.
Starting point is 02:46:23 That side took my snatched it. Maybe you should have been in the right cleats. You're so old school. You know what I'm saying? It could have been. No, I'm just joking. I wish you didn't tear you. I don't wish that on you at all.
Starting point is 02:46:34 That wasn't what I was saying. I was trying to flip it on you. But, but, but that stadium is gorgeous because they mix with the old with the new. You know, I know you had to tear the old thing down or like update it. Yeah. And now you got some columns. You got some like new.
Starting point is 02:46:49 Dallas is that stadium is soulless. It sucks. And I got to watch it on Thanksgiving. I got to stare at the lighting in that stadium sucks. You know what else sucks? MetLife. They built that thing in like 2000. And it looks 57 years old.
Starting point is 02:47:06 You like that stadium? You want to know something? Why? It sucks. A fun fact about it. Why? What? I played in the first.
Starting point is 02:47:11 First game ever played in MetLife. Really? The Jets. That's when Victor Cruz had his coming out party. We were rookies. And that stadium is awful. No, it's not. No, it's not.
Starting point is 02:47:23 It's gross. It's a gross stadium. Bo, worst seat. Arrowhead's awesome. Somebody's saying Arrowhead. No, no, no, Arrowhead. Las Vegas is awesome. Vegas has a nice state.
Starting point is 02:47:34 Can I give you a best seat before we get to worst seat? It's Tom Brady. Tom Brady watching a team that could actually play offensive. You know what I mean? And you heard him talking at the end of the game We're sitting there watching it. He was doing a good job. He's doing better.
Starting point is 02:47:48 He's doing better. You're saying that you're factoring in the expectation, in my opinion. Because if you heard him on another game, you'd be like, who's this guy calling the game? He's okay. He's pretty good. Well, I'm thinking about hearing Greg instead of him. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 02:48:03 Well, that's fair. Which isn't fair to do that to him, but for us as fans, it is fair. No, totally. Because we had it before. Totally, yeah. Yeah, we did have it. It's just like, I understand.
Starting point is 02:48:13 They're trying to get him ready through the year and it's going to be something that's like got to hit the ground running for him. But I think it was better. I think it was, however you want to say, good, better. Yeah. I think it's really tough when a guy has to call a game that's a blowout. You said they did a podcast. It's like doing a podcast.
Starting point is 02:48:32 It really is. Hockey announcers are the best in the world. It never stops. You have no time to gather your thoughts. Five people know. the rules. It's like icing, you know, icing. Hey, we got icing. Here's another face off. But they're like Boborovsky and all these fucking skis and all these. Some other off. Some oves. And it's, I try to play hockey video games my entire life without knowing the rules.
Starting point is 02:49:00 And it's very hard to do. It's hard. But like when you get into a football game or a baseball game and it's a blowout, I think football is even tougher because like there are rules that govern when you're supposed to get in and out and like sometimes you pause for the play they're just talking through drives which is a challenge and i thought like tom did a good job and it was interesting hearing him talk about the detroit build and you also get to see for all the money that people pay to hear tom on a podcast i'm talking about like him in the let's go podcast or whatever with jim nance this is better this is him talking about football as it's happening and giving you real life uh you know kind of like contextualizing of the building of a football team and an offense.
Starting point is 02:49:41 So I thought he was really better. Yeah, better. That's fair. Better. Bo, did you have a worst seat? Yes, my worst seat is waking up today as Cowboys' defensive back, Jordan Lewis, after being in your bag and DMing Amin-Raw, St. Brown, after the Lions blew you out and realized that you actually sent that fucking DM to him.
Starting point is 02:50:05 And he screen shot it and tweeted out to the world. That's so good. What do you think he's going to do? You see what he said? Yeah. What do you? He said that was between me. Yeah, come on.
Starting point is 02:50:16 Come on, man. It's like, fuck out of here. Come on, man. Bro. But that's, but like to what you said, that's what Detroit does to you, yo. Yeah. Get you in your bag. Get you in your bag.
Starting point is 02:50:28 You're just like, fuck that. We just lost. But fuck them. They're bitches. It's just like, bro. You guys didn't score a touchdown. Like, you guys really just got blown out bad. for you to even have the audacity to be worried.
Starting point is 02:50:42 To, to, you know, first off, first off, Amad, he's not even following you and you're on his page, checking his story and responding.
Starting point is 02:50:51 That's like, even more, it's just like, bro, you're in your, and are you in your locker? You're in your locker doing this after a loss? What time was it at?
Starting point is 02:51:00 What time was that? 12. 36 in the morning. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:51:06 he had had some liquor. he probably seen but the video that he put up walk into your trap take over your trap that's the song he had from background he probably
Starting point is 02:51:18 he's probably drunk watching that like just like he said he was drunk he's like you're a bitch and he's like you know and then you wake up the next morning you're hung over
Starting point is 02:51:27 you just got the shit beat out of you you see that you're the butt of a joke yeah it sucks that's a bad scene but they have and they have history you know my they have history
Starting point is 02:51:36 he talked about it I think on the pivot or something about they play last time. There's a history, yeah. He was like, there's this one guy. He's like, I don't even know his name, something Lewis. He was like, he was talking really reckless to me. So they have something going on.
Starting point is 02:51:51 And Jordan Lewis has said before, like on the field, sometimes I'll just say stuff. I don't even remember. Like I'll just say something and people will be like, yo. Yeah, yeah. And I'll be like, oh, shit. But I'll just keep saying it. Yeah. And, you know, you got to, it's the hard thing about shit talk.
Starting point is 02:52:05 Like you got to take it to. But more and more these days, it feels like it spills off the field. He typed that out and hit his social media. No, no question. He doesn't remember. It's like, my guy, you fucking type this shit out and then hit fed. Yeah, exactly. But, you know, it's just, come on.
Starting point is 02:52:24 After a loss like that, what do you think is going to happen to you? So he seemed like a great Hollow Man as well. Is he your Hollow Man, Bo? Are you doing two for one? I got a better Hollow Man. My hello man is reality TV star Victoria Fuller
Starting point is 02:52:41 who is the girlfriend of Will Leavis because she thought it was real sweet dating this quarterback she thought it was going to be fucking awesome she was going to have her little pregame outfits on and newsflash honey he honied her
Starting point is 02:52:58 best hate Victoria Flour Yeah Bachelor star TV personality. Hey, you know what? I'm going to leave Will Levis alone. He's had enough, right? My hollow man. He's had enough indeed. My hollow man is going to... Going through a breakup. Is going to Malik neighbors. For going to probably one of the loudest concerts you can probably choose during Concretion Protocol is absolutely nuts.
Starting point is 02:53:33 that's what are you saying and the pictures it's not like maybe if you take a picture with the you know the John candy you know the baby you know the baby goggles I mean the baby earphones you wear like you have for like loud yeah oh yeah maybe he should have took a picture
Starting point is 02:53:53 with those on at least and been like guys I had these on yeah but yeah I don't think that that makes a difference when your brain's healing yeah yeah it's just I don't don't understand it. I like, I hate to be the old man yelling at the cloud, but a lot of young players just don't get it. No, they don't. They're great. They're better than we ever were. They're better players than we ever were. But the point is, is like, there's just a certain amount of common
Starting point is 02:54:20 sense that comes with having vets in the locker room. And there aren't the vets anymore that would be able to be like, yo, dude, like, this is how we move. And these are things we do and we don't do. And these are things that if you do them, you're going to put yourself in a bad spot and then also like your team. Yeah, because he was probably there with teammates. Like I'm sure he wasn't there just alone. I could see if he was just there alone,
Starting point is 02:54:43 but someone you're with, maybe it was all rookies or someone. Now back in the day, a guy got a concussion. He didn't even know it. He was just going to the concert. You know, like, I'm pretty sure my dad got a concussion with the Steve Miller band at some point. So I just, again, like, I don't want to turn this into a thing where we're just getting on Malik neighbors,
Starting point is 02:55:00 but I think that like the climate now with social media with camera phones can't do it to yourself with not in New York and obviously with you trying to get back to where you want to be and know that like there are like people are going to know you went to this fucking concert you're like the best football player on the team
Starting point is 02:55:18 it's the one place that you're not going to get with get away with anything sneaky is New York so like I don't know if this is a wake-up call hopefully it is for him but bro if you're going to be in New York, like everyone's going to see you. Like, don't think that someone's not going to take a picture. Someone's not going to do something to call you out. But this is just one of those things.
Starting point is 02:55:41 Like, you had to know that this was going to get back by your. Hey, another one of your favorites here, Nate, Ted Mitch, all those vets straightened out Aaron Hernandez. Yeah, because veterans can stop a murderer, you fucking mouth breather, because it is my job and it's the veteran job. and I wasn't even on that team. But it's our job to reverse generational trauma with a guy that's been killing people since college. That's what the vets are supposed to do. We're talking about going to a concert, my brother in Christ.
Starting point is 02:56:13 We're talking about, hey, you got a concussion. You might end up in New York Post, bro. Not like, hey, you should stop killing people. Do you guys just live to, like, correct people? You're like a bunch of hall monitors sometimes. That's the chat. It's crazy. It's the chat.
Starting point is 02:56:32 Talk to any young, talk to any player that's in the NFL and ask them who the oldest person in their room is. I mean, chances are, the answer is late 20s. I mean, in most position rooms. I mean, some of these position rooms, you keep older guys around. But when I came to league, it was four or five guys in a defensive line room. And guys that have made their mistakes and guys that didn't want to see me make mistakes and would now if you're an idiot or a murderer
Starting point is 02:57:00 you're probably not going to change because a veteran pulls you aside by the locker I'm pretty sure Aaron Hernandez had at least considered not murdering anymore at some point you know veterans can't tell you all I also don't know if the Patriots had any strong leadership on those Super Bowl teams like I don't know if they had any a good veteran presence
Starting point is 02:57:23 you know maybe like the most decorated NFL football player of all time yeah I don't know who's food for thought who drew brief truth bearer said i was at florida with divo even he couldn't pray the demons out of hernandez so let's blame god now you know bro by the way have you seen any of this erin hand randas show dude i saw some clips from it facts bro it's so bad that it's good you know what i mean it's like gold the belichick that the Robert Kraft reveal us. Grunk and Belichick actors are honestly top tier.
Starting point is 02:58:00 First off, first off. Hey, nice to meet you. We're in full pads getting ready to go out for our training camp practice. We've never met before. Hey, I'm grunk. Hi, I'm a murderer. Like, it was just, it was, have you met coach before? No, I'm a draft pick, but I haven't met coach before.
Starting point is 02:58:17 He's spooky. It is scary. Oh, that's Tom Brady. Oh, yeah. Tom's like, let's go, guys, get out there. I'm like, none of this is how it goes. Yeah. Now, I don't know about the murdering.
Starting point is 02:58:29 I don't know how they- Hey, that actor got Rob's giggle down pretty good, though. Supposedly him and Rob are like buddies. That's his what you're called? That's Rob, stuntman for all of his media stuff. He's doing stunts? Like, for all of his stuff. On Fox News, stand-in.
Starting point is 02:58:45 When it spikes the ball, it's the guy doing the spiking. That's good. He is a, yeah. I might need to give him a call that he, some field goal kicking, man. Yeah, exactly. Because that was... That will be good.
Starting point is 02:58:56 Now, the guy in Cal or whoever was knocked that field go through a couple weeks because that was pretty damn impressive. Matt McAfee gave him two chances. I don't know if that was a cow. That was pretty damn bad. Last weekend was the best one. The kid, like, he booted it. Yeah, two weeks in a row.
Starting point is 02:59:11 Some kid made it. Yeah. Chris, did you have a hollow moon? A hollow man? Yeah, Doug Peterson walking off the field and being like... I mean, when I think about Hollow Man, I think about who would I least like to be today. And like it doesn't, the list starts and ends with Doug
Starting point is 02:59:27 because this is a team that looks hapless. I mean, unbelievable. Here's the thing about the Jags. Look at him on paper. They're not supposed to be this bad. No. Like we can, I think most people would agree with that. So I don't know, man.
Starting point is 02:59:43 It's tough. He's eating. My other hollow man was pork and beans. I mean, Sierraani barber. You think, you think, I think Siriani cut his own hair for that? Or did he go to a barbershop in Philly? No, he definitely did that on a whim in front of the mirror with a zero guard.
Starting point is 02:59:58 And that's what happens when you're going through something like being on the hot seat. You just start doing, you cut your hair. Like, what song was playing like off his phone? What song was playing when Steve Bouchemmy was putting lipstick on in Billy Maddo. Exactly. You tell me. I don't know, bro. I just like.
Starting point is 03:00:19 You know how they bring the barbershops in the locker? I have no idea. Like, what if, what if, like, all the guys are waiting to get cut up? And then there's Nick's just in line, too. He's like, I'm next. Like, give me that number one. All the leaves are brown. Limbusia break.
Starting point is 03:00:34 And the sky is gray. California. I was going to be like, welcome, welcome to the black parade. Like, my chemical romance just playing while he's shaving it. I don't know my chemical romance. you should turn that song on Chris because it's a fucking banger what do you mean
Starting point is 03:00:54 all right just listen to it okay yeah what were they when I'm listening to when a young boy let's see what electric light orchestra you know the song I remember the song I want to hear it can I hear it I'll play it electric light orchestra I don't want to have to sit through an ad
Starting point is 03:01:11 yellow electric like orchestra telephone line amazing really yeah they're so good yeah You actually would, I'm surprised you don't know him. I mean, I probably know him by hearing him. Don't bring me down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. God.
Starting point is 03:01:34 He's just in the mirror. That's what it was playing. Oh, boys, I got power back. Let's fucking. Hey, congrats, Bo. All right. I think we're pretty much through it. Our STL Memorial.
Starting point is 03:01:52 And Gameball. Man, unfortunately, I'm not really sure. I'm going to have to think of one while you guys are talking about. Cole Comette. Cole Comette. Two touchdowns. This is a brilliant play design. And he stood in for the long snapper.
Starting point is 03:02:06 Long snapper got injured. The Bears heard. That's true. And he had practiced it during in practice. That's true. But they were like, yeah, you got to go to do it. He said luckily I didn't have to do it on punk. You know what?
Starting point is 03:02:17 I'll give the STL Memorial to damn the running back from the Bucks, the second running back. Oh, and I'm a piggyback. Sean Tucker. I'm going to give it to Lee. 14 carries. To Liam Cohen. I'm going to give it to the Bucks OC. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:02:32 500 and how many yards? They got, 277 Russian, 325 receiving. They put up 51. They got healthy a little bit. Some guys came back for them. So that's good. Yeah. Another STL Memorial was Jalen Warren falling on that football.
Starting point is 03:02:47 That was big. I mean, there's a couple big moments. Bo, do you have a Bucks-related SCL Memorial? I was going to do Tucker also. 136 yards, one TD. Sorry, you do it. I had my game ball as else going to be, going but uh great work there you mean we're just we just all over it
Starting point is 03:03:05 but i actually am giving my game ball to tico tampa electric company got my power back on nice i'm gonna go crank my ac down a 65 degrees say so much shit in my fridge don't freeze your ac out doing it too quickly no dude i cannot fucking wait i've been glamping in my house for the last five days game ball my game ball is going to romeo Dobbs. Yeah. Sometimes skipping practice pays off, buddy.
Starting point is 03:03:37 Sometimes it pays off. I'd like to give mine to Mike Caldwell. Who kept his head after a hate crime on the sideline. An attack. A vicious hate crime. Game ball. Game ball.
Starting point is 03:03:58 You know what? I'm going to. give you bear's fans a fucking I'm going to give you I'm going to throw you what it was Bear down Chicago Bear it's Caleb Williams He goes to London and he wins
Starting point is 03:04:12 He's a rookie This is good stuff This is what This is the team That we imagine them being Which is a team that's competitive Because you've got a great defense And a young quarterback who's doing the easy stuff
Starting point is 03:04:26 Well right now You know He's he's hitting the underneath stuff And a lot of young quarterbacks make that look hard. The middle of the field, I mean, for an older quarterback, that's easy for a young quarterback,
Starting point is 03:04:37 not so much. He's making this stuff look like he's been doing it a while. So game ball to Caleb Williams coming away with that win. Who they got next week? They got the buy. Bye. Oh, this is great.
Starting point is 03:04:51 You're going to the buy. You're feeling good. You got a winning record. And then commanders. Oh, the thickness, the narratives. I mean, the narratives are going to be thick. with two Cs coming to that game. Bo. Drip King.
Starting point is 03:05:07 Drip King. Please tell me you can pull a photo of this outfit cowboy because it's fucking electric. This is Who is this? Kyler Gordon, defensive back for the Chicago Bears in London. Rocking some fur and some sick boots
Starting point is 03:05:25 with some loose pants on his way into the game. Rocking very loose pants. Peter. Let's go. Rocking very loose pants. Wait, what? Pita. Yeah. That's funny.
Starting point is 03:05:39 Pita, if they had just stuck to the furs, like most people have been like, yeah, that's a lot. You know, because I think a lot of people think furs are obnoxious. Yeah. But they just got, they went overboard. Everything fun. Everything's like, listen. That's enough. I'm going to eat some chick filet.
Starting point is 03:05:57 And a power raid. After Fax's viral moment of the week. Yeah. The next viral moment of the week this week is going to Kelsey's camera guy who takes a tumble. Looks like his foot falls through the roof of this trailer, one foot. And on the way down, this expensive camera comes tumbling down. The one thing about this video I'm upset about, it ends too early. I want to know what actually happens after.
Starting point is 03:06:27 Oh, no. I'm sorry, we just showed it. But as a guy who has fallen through a roof where one leg goes down and the other leg is still like up top, this is a very awkward position to be in. Where were you? What were you doing? I was helping someone in their attic and they had a soft spot in their attic. Yeah. And one of my foot, one of my feet went through and then like I was straddled on a beam.
Starting point is 03:06:55 Like a cartoon. Like a cartoon. And the person we were helping, they were in the room below, and they just seen a huge black leg come through the city. And my home boy who's up there with me, we were laughing so hard. Like, it took, it took me like a good three to five minutes to get, like, to fully get up. To get out of the hole. Without us, like, crashing through the entire seal. Well, a couple things.
Starting point is 03:07:22 Kelsey, you got to be careful with him because he damn near tore Dumfey's ACL. and if everybody knows who that is, he's the big guy with all the Philly tattoos, including the 95. Tattoo, he's like a local legend. And I'm actually a fan of his. And Kelsey almost killed him before the game, chest bumping him. And honestly, that's kind of when the Eagles started playing like shit, honestly. And then Kelsey's going to destroy a camera. I mean, the guy, he looks like.
Starting point is 03:07:49 He's a menace. He looks like the kind of guy that everybody would like. He can't find anybody to say a bad word about him. but he's leaving a trail of destruction behind him. I've been in an Eagles tailgate and caught a grown man who was falling off a camper. No lie. True story?
Starting point is 03:08:04 True story. Whoa. This is one of the only Eagles tailgates I've been to. I went for the San Francisco game. Trustfall? It was a trust hole? No. He was up there like emceeing the tailgate
Starting point is 03:08:15 and we were popped. Everybody was popped. Surprise trust fall. He fell and I caught him. And people were doing the like, you know, people were like, you know this is the best play you ever made here chris you saved a guy and i felt really good about that so shout out to the maycoids um all right with that do you have a lean on monday night
Starting point is 03:08:40 tonight bills and jets jets are getting one and a half points 41 and a half is the total i think my lean is probably is cook cook down with a turf toe or what's he got he's still questionable my lean is like i got this conspiracy theory that like like i got this conspiracy theory that like the Jets in conjunction with Aaron made this decision and because they know that like Josh Allen's banged up. I'm not giving the bills an excuse, but I don't feel good about them winning this game. Now, you know what I'm going to say.
Starting point is 03:09:11 I'm probably going to end up betting them because it's prime time and there's nothing else to do when I get home. I think the under would probably be my lien, if anything. I don't feel strongly about a side because I love the bills, but I don't know if there's a good spot for them. I really don't. Nate, first touchdown score? First touchdown score.
Starting point is 03:09:31 I'm going with Alan Lazzard plus 1,200. My guy, Aaron Rogers, doesn't really look comfortable with anyone else to me right now. So I'm giving it to him. And if they don't score the first touchdown, remember if Alan Lazzard scores the second touchdown, you still get your money back. And I think that is a good shot for tonight. Bang.
Starting point is 03:09:52 How about first touchdown? Just throw this one out there. Yep, I'm listening. Okay. You listening? Yeah. Ready. Ty Johnson?
Starting point is 03:09:59 Ooh. What are the odds on that? Probably not enough. Yeah. But who knows? Oh, I think it might be. It might be. Todd Johnson.
Starting point is 03:10:08 He's the, he's the bill's running back. Let's see. Wait. Plus 3,000. Yeah, plus 3,000. Okay, Chris. You never know. You never know.
Starting point is 03:10:17 You never know. You never know. And Bo, who's going to know? Since Bo won today, he gets to end by telling us who he's going to do a butter breakdown. this week. Let me think about that one for a second. I kind of like Will Anderson. I also kind of like what's his name, number 92 for the Bengals last night Hill. There's one other one I was looking at too. Oh, Alie McNeil. Yep. So one of those. Well, Bo. I'd like to throw, I'd like to throw somebody
Starting point is 03:10:53 into the hat, Brandon Graham. Oh. You should just do some Brandon Graham, highlights for the entire year. Just highlights. Just his highlights. No breakdown. Just highlights. She don't want a puppy. She won a big dog.
Starting point is 03:11:11 Boys, I'm going to go home and bask in some glorious air conditioning. That's great, man. Enjoy yourself. You need help with those alligators. Call animal control. Going straight to www.p.org. All right. be here again on Friday for the live show 930 in the morning take care much love take care

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