Green Light with Chris Long - NFL WK7 Reactions! Chiefs Defeat 49ers in SB Rematch, Lions Over Packers & Eagles Get Right!

Starting point is 00:00:00 Their coordinators and their coaching in in Detroit is like as a former player, you kind of watch that. I don't know if you felt this way. Yeah. But it's like, man, I would like, that'd be a fun locker room to be a part of. No question. I'm sure that they play hard, they practice hard, they seem close. They're winning.

Starting point is 00:00:16 You know what I mean? And it's like it just feels like they are putting their players in positions to win. And like that's really all you want as a player. Well, you want confidence. And I think like right down to the quarterback, you think about Jared Goff, who. I fucking love Jared golf, dude. The fact that he's doing what he's doing right now is everything that football is about.

Starting point is 00:00:36 It's about getting up off your ass when somebody counted you out. And, you know, when McVeigh said he's not good enough for me, he goes to Detroit and makes, you know, I can remember when he played the Rams the first damn time. Okay? And people were like, oh, they might have something with this bridge. Well, no, he proved that he's a franchise quarterback twice.

Starting point is 00:00:55 You know, most people get to the Super Bowl. You don't have to prove it again. He's a franchise quarterback. Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. NFL Week 7 Reactions, Chris Bo, Doctor Fax, ripping their analysis for you. You guys can talk about it around the water cooler. You can use it in fantasy.

Starting point is 00:01:17 You can use it from your bets. This is info for you. Because we appreciate you. Thanks for being around. We hit the big games. We've got Russ looking great. He's dropping moonshots like he's in Seattle. Aaron Rogers looking at him across the field like,

Starting point is 00:01:29 damn, man, I want to do that. The Chiefs knocked off the 49ers. the Super Bowl rematch. The Eagles got right with a big win against the Giants. Lions had an NFC North battle against Minnesota and they came out on top. Jared Goff is a stud. See, in the MVP conversation, we talked about that. We ripped the other NFC North game. The Packers, Texans, the Packers came out on top on that one. A great week in the NFL. We ripped through all the games. We've got our moments. A nice long show for you today. Please enjoy and we'll check you later this week.

Starting point is 00:02:44 That's Aerosmith. Singing about a dude that looks like a lady. We got a dude on our show. that I did not look that I did not know look like a lady honestly I had no idea that Bo Allen looked like a lady that's a good looking lady that's a thickums thick with two seas what'd you say under that can you give the background for people that are in the in the chat here why why you're in the crosshairs from Chris because first of all from Chris loves coming at you boy but also I was mistaken for the lovely Kylie Kelsey, the Taylor Swift concert. I'm rocking my merch for today.

Starting point is 00:03:27 T. Swift kind of popped off, but no, someone said that. She thought I was Kylie dancing with Jason. And she's like, I just love those field hockey arms, those ripped arms. Look at those strong field hockey arms. Yeah, down to earth. Look at those ripped field hockey arms. She is the glue, the neck, the foundation. They said she's the neck.

Starting point is 00:03:48 the neck the neck that shit was so funny to me I mean that is solid gold and what's even better is that you commented under words or underneath what did you say you say it I said uh Kylie wishes

Starting point is 00:04:04 that she had this ass you're such a ridiculous person you're also getting to go a lot of cool places that Jason friendship really after all these years is paying off for the likes of you and me maybe soon where we get to go. Yeah, I know, but not for me so far.

Starting point is 00:04:23 Like you guys have been to this fear. You've been to a Taylor Swift concert. The question I was asked, which I didn't even ask you, was like, did you meet Taylor Swift? No, I did not. I was, they kept me at arm's length, probably for the right reason. That's just smart.

Starting point is 00:04:40 They don't want me. Yeah, they don't want me at all anywhere near her. It's good thinking. their security team like try to vet me and they're like no don't bro hey listen that that's classic it's it's also classic that you keep popping up in all the the most primo places because your boy kelse is taking taking you with him you know i love it yeah yeah good friends kind of like hook their friends up with stuff you know whenever they're doing something i got it chris maybe maybe you should uh try doing that sometimes didn't i invite you to montana and take you fly fishing and sit in the back of the skiff so you

Starting point is 00:05:15 could catch all the fish and take pictures. Yes, you sure did, buddy. That was a great time for us. Took you to the bar, you know? What else have I talked to you? I was looking at that karaoke video recently. That was fun time. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:29 What are you doing for work these days? Working hard, man. Crunching tape. Who hired you? Going a concert? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I'm employee. Wish my friend Chris would take me to a Taylor Swift concert.

Starting point is 00:05:44 That's good. Put it another pillow in your upper lip big dog. Welcome. It's Monday morning. It's Monday morning and the chat's already talking about Nate's chain. Nate's chain's awesome. That is our YouTube 100,000 subscriber chain, which evidently we actually hit that milestone a while ago. And somebody had misplaced the plaque. And then, you know, I was like, oh, that's kind of cool. You know, first when you guys told me, I was like, no big deal. like I'm not going to be a loser and be like look how many YouTube subscribers I have like everyone has YouTube subscribers everyone on the planet everyone doesn't have a hundred K okay well guess who does like a month into being famous Haley Welch so like you guys gave me

Starting point is 00:06:29 this whole rigumerala yeah talk to her that's her government yeah I mean she went viral she went viral she took advantage of it I know but there's nothing like you guys talking me into this being a big deal and then I logged on like three hours later and the girl who got famous for talking about spitting on that day. Phelating is where we are. After like five years of hard work, you know, that's the reality of the world we live in. And I'm not throwing shade at her again. I said she's an electric personality.

Starting point is 00:07:00 She has really earned her viral moment. It's a marathon, not a sprint. It's a marathon, not a sprint, Haley. Right? She knows that. I'm talking to you. Oh, no, no, no. Hey, let's get Haley on the pod.

Starting point is 00:07:13 I got a lot of questions. I don't think I would. No, I don't know. You got, you could have Haley on the pod, but we just only have so many football slots in season. Like what are we going to have around to pick? Do a lot of breakdown. How do you hawk to a run me through the specifics of this technique?

Starting point is 00:07:29 Like with, with an anatomy picture and like you're John Madden on the dick and balls? I mean, I'm willing to stand in if needed. Oh, my God. Oh, come on. Here we go. With that, we're going to talk about a, another helmet.

Starting point is 00:07:43 Uh-oh. Yes, dude. Oh. Check this out, dude. Western Kentucky. That quick. The hilltoppers, thank y'all so much for making my dreams come true. What I'd like to do is have a whole wall full of helmets.

Starting point is 00:07:57 This is going to be helmet number one on the wall. And on the wide shot, I can collect them. I'm looking at you, Youngstown State. You had that beautiful lid with the penguin. I quote tweet you and everything thinking like maybe they'd be like, oh, reach out. Do you want a helmet? I'm not that important, but I'm calling you out again.

Starting point is 00:08:13 I want that damn helmet with the penguin on it. Please, please, pretty please. I will donate to your school if you send me a helmet. Okay. Oh, wow. We're about to have a room full of helmet. No, but I didn't say how much. Illinois was rocking. No, I don't like those that much.

Starting point is 00:08:30 Those are fire. Are you saying that umbrella to any school or just the school you're talking? Schools I like. Like, I'm going to make a donation to Western Kentucky right now. not right now during the show but after the show because this is the coolest helmet I think I've ever seen and it's going to join me right here on this set in perpetuity or until we get a second helmet that I can get a fuck me the eyes are oh yeah that I can get a an actual helmet wall set up so anyways love that thank you to the equipment people I guess

Starting point is 00:08:59 there's an equipment guy there Stanford C'd said he's a birds fan go birds we're not going to talk about the birds just yet in this show okay um what else do we have to I got to shout somebody out for this shirt. Check this shirt out. Look at this. Oh, hot. That's really hot. The fellas.

Starting point is 00:09:20 They were hard at work yesterday. We're going to talk about that in a bit. Who are we shouting out for sending us that t-shirt, cowboy? We are shouting out once my computer works. We've got a shout out at Carrie Nolan KBO underscore 4. They, uh, green light, MRP, most random player. And we've got to decide. Who sent me the shirt?

Starting point is 00:09:40 Oh, the shirt? That's what I'm asking. There was no. That's what I was asking. It arrived in the mail today with no attribution. Okay, I got to find the guy on Twitter that sent me this shirt. You know who you are. I'm not real good at this.

Starting point is 00:09:53 I thought we had it. We don't have it. It's okay. Thank you, whoever sent me this shirt. I will shout you out on the next show. I got too many DMs. Just people DMing me all types of spammy shit. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:10:06 Okay. So what's the other thing we got to do in the housekeeping section here? We got to put a ball on this MRP. Our newest segment, Green Lights, MRP, most random player. This is a segment that's often duplicated, never actually duplicated, often imitated, never it's often imitated, never duplicated even if you just take the formula and do it for yourself. But this is our segment that we started a few weeks ago where we're going to try to get you guys free gear, you guys and gals free green light gear.

Starting point is 00:10:38 So we'll pick a, we'll pick a game. of the week every week and we'll talk about some old random players and kerry nolan gets a hoodie for coming up with the name of this segment green light mrp most random player that's who sent in the uh the idea there and we had last week it was 49ers chiefs most random players uh do you want me to read through some these yeah run through some of them have we picked yet we haven't picked okay let's we got some we got some of regret who's the best random player that was it was input that's what we're trying to figure out right now the winner gets some free green light gear we had dexter mccluster dexter mccluster Tameric Van Over.

Starting point is 00:11:12 Tamarik Vanover. Sam Kanado. Did somebody put Paris Harrelson? That's a really good name. I don't know that he spelled that correctly, Jack Ginsburg. Sam Congato is a really good one. I play with Sam Congato and St. Louis. It's going to be hard to beat Sam Congatto.

Starting point is 00:11:30 Sam Congatto turned out to be a fucking doctor in scrubs. Like legit, like medical school genius, genius type guy. Scott Fujita. I think of him as a saint more than anything. What position didn't that guy play? He was a running back, Sam Con Gatto. I think he went to Baylor. Nice.

Starting point is 00:11:49 And he was a genius. Went to Liberty. Liberty. Okay, never mind. I play with a running back from Baylor as well. Hopefully I don't have Sam Khan confused with a different guy. I'm crediting him with a doctorate. Genius. Eddie Kennison, that's a good one.

Starting point is 00:12:04 JJ Stokes. That's going to be hard to beat. Frank Zombo. Frank Zombo You win Dog A doo Dad, PhD Frank Zombo Kansas City Chiefs

Starting point is 00:12:19 Who could forget this guy? Not me His name was Zombo He walked So Leo Chenal could run You know what I'm saying? He was one of their first White linebackers

Starting point is 00:12:33 I got a lot of burn So I'll give it to Frank Zombo I'll give it to Dog a doodad PhD at Bud Fan account. Bud fan account. If you were in the chat right now, we just followed you,

Starting point is 00:12:45 hit it with the DM and we'll get you some merch. Damn, dude, you almost, hey, they almost had it with Sam Congato. But I'm looking to learn that Sam Congato was a doctor before I give, try again next time the Chiefs or, you know, spam us with Sam Congato next time the Chiefs play the game of the week.

Starting point is 00:13:02 And we'll try to mix these up so there's not too many names recirculating. That's like, that's like missing the last. leg of a parlay. It's just for a hoodie. Hearing your, hearing your choice. Can we talk about this real quick before the show starts?

Starting point is 00:13:19 For sure. So Kingston, how many legs in this parlay? 10. I got a 13 leg parlay on bed MGM. Hit the first 11 legs. It's a $25. $25 free bet. Pay $100,000.

Starting point is 00:13:30 Okay. Nobody freak out. Everybody. My theory's on the line tonight for him. Okay. But more important than your theory is him taking home this money. Oh, no, that's what we want. No, I know. I got to tell you, I'm going to bet the bucks. Yo, that's, that is, that is diabolity. Hey, that's hate. Holy mo. You want me to take

Starting point is 00:13:52 a Monday off and like go against my, somebody's got to win. God damn. But, yo, that's hate. That's hate weeks. I feel a little bit. Have you got better? You feel better. Not sides, though. Two and no and sides. You should be careful. Oh, yeah, the commercial. Time out. You're right. You're Time out. Stand up against hate. No, no, time out. Time out against hate. Hey, you know all this hate and racism in the world?

Starting point is 00:14:15 We're going to call a 20-second timeout. Coach, is it a 20 or is it a full timeout? No, we just need 20. We just need 20. There's something fundamentally wrong with that campaign. We're just calling time out on hate. But I'm not going to call a time out on hating on you. I'm going to take the way.

Starting point is 00:14:33 It's okay. Hate, hate, hate, hate. You at home want to make money, Greenlight, podcast. That substack.com, subscribe. I really do. I really, I really do think he's going to win this bet because of the tear he's on. And I'm really not going to bet the bucks,

Starting point is 00:14:45 but I will probably tease them because I think it's a really good matchup for the bucks. Yeah. But, you know, maybe we can all win. And I feel nauseous already. Dude, I really hope you win this 100K. I mean,

Starting point is 00:14:56 hopefully, maybe we can get different lines. Damn, why do you docs how much? He told us. Oh, did he? Yeah. I thought he just said the number.

Starting point is 00:15:04 No, maybe headphones blocked your ears. And he was on at BenMGM, which gave me a free bet, let me do it. Let's hear from them real quick. Oh, yeah, let's do it. As you know, we've teamed up with BetMGM. We'll be using BetMGM lines to make all our picks and we'll have special offers for you listeners each week. If you haven't signed up for BetMGM yet, use bonus code Greenlight and you'll get up to a $1,500

Starting point is 00:15:23 first beth offer on your first wager with BetmGM. Here's how it works. Number one, download the Betmgmgm app and sign up using bonus code Greenlight, number two, deposit at least $10 and place your first wager on any game. Number three, you will receive up to $1,500 in bonus bets if your bet loses just make sure you use bonus code green light when you sign up matt i want you to make as much money as you can tonight but i'm a little bit worried about the fact that we might be down a guy if you win 100k tonight oh he's definitely taking two weeks off and he's going to be doing sabbatical he's going to the season how much blow how much blow can you buy with 100k oh my god um i'm getting i don't know the i don't know the i don't know the price of a brick rate

Starting point is 00:16:08 now but he might be able to get a couple he might be able to get a couple breaks with that that is insane I don't think I've personally I don't think I know somebody personally that's been so close to weighing a lot of money on like a small parlay like I don't think I've ever known somebody who's been this

Starting point is 00:16:24 close so even not blowing smoke there's no chance I would have come this close without learning from guys like you, Bo and Nate about the NFL and just sitting here and absorbing information every week well listen you're on a tear you should be commended however this game ends.

Starting point is 00:16:40 You know, I don't like moral victories. Yeah. But 11 out of 13 is really good. But 13 out of 13, I mean, what are we going to do? How about tonight

Starting point is 00:16:49 we put a camera on you the whole game? I knew you were going to say that. And it would be funny. I'll do it. I'll do it. If it comes down to the last game, you should really just put a camera on you.

Starting point is 00:17:00 I don't know if I'll be able to watch, honestly. You've got to watch. I was supposed to be in a chess tournament tonight. Do I cancel? Yeah, you cancel the chess tournament, dude. No. You watching matters.

Starting point is 00:17:09 Hey, Chad, does he watch or no? No, I think you should go to your chess tournament and just turn your phone off and then look back down and then check if you have $100K in your account. No, because he's going to be making some questionable moves if they start if like the Cardinals start moving the ball. But that's better than like you don't need to do that. That's just overkill. Just let it go. Man, I'm praying for you, bro. People in chat, I think are praying for you.

Starting point is 00:17:34 I take back my comment about the bucks, just trying to have fun. Now it's going to get clit. Now it's going to get clit. If they lose tomorrow, everyone's going to be like, look, look what Chris did. Hey, I get blamed for everything in my house too. So it's not a big deal. Heavy is the head that where's the crowd. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:17:50 If you need somebody to blame tonight when the bucks dent the Ravens possibly. Stop with this coaching shit, bro. What do you mean? Get this coaching job. What do you mean? I don't want a coaching job. What do you mean? I can't say heavy is the head that where's the crown?

Starting point is 00:18:04 You're talking about Matt leaving us. You're trying to leave us. No, I'm not. If I wanted to leave, I'd leave. You've been flirting with... I thought about that. You're trying to get something going with Bill Belichette. No, I'm not.

Starting point is 00:18:14 And then the reason why Nolan's laughing, because Nolan knows he's going with you. Nolan's like, yeah, I'm out. I hadn't even thought about that. Are you here because you think I'm going to get a job with Bill? I'm staying put. Who thinks I'm actually going to get a job in the NFL or would ever want to coach?

Starting point is 00:18:34 Are you kidding me? I enjoy one of the best coaches ever. But she's on the spot. This is right where I want to be. You know what I'll say? Hey, coach, I need a chick filet in the facility. I need unlimited. What do we, we set up that big USC wish list thing a couple years ago for me.

Starting point is 00:18:51 That's the list that I will run back for Bill. Those are all the things I need if you need me to call. Or even worse. What? Bill hits you with, you know what? I want a co-host on Greenlight. And then that means one of us got a guy. You motherfuckers will all be on the casting.

Starting point is 00:19:07 I'm going to tell you who. I'm just going to tell you. And this is, hey, I'm taking a page out of like, Rob Mayo and Antonio Pierce's book. When Joe Flacco retires, he's going to have that chair right there, and everybody's going to move over and we're going to be Flacco and the boys, man. Because I had so much fun talking to that dude last week, he was incredible. If he ever gets out, Joe, this is me making a public plea to you,

Starting point is 00:19:30 draft class of 08. I will overpay you. I will take money out of my coffers for you. I will overpay you. Really saying something. Yeah, I guess so. You know, this guy, I haven't done anything for him, you know. So that's wild.

Starting point is 00:19:48 Anyways, we picked the MRP. We've talked about your big parlay. America's teams. We need America's teams. Okay, number one, America's team, the University of South Florida Bulls. Can you pull that video up for the people at home? Bo, Nate, I don't think you've seen this. This is an America's team if I've ever seen one.

Starting point is 00:20:07 because the gentlemen on the same team are assaulting each other on the sideline. Oh, I did see this. This is ladies and gentlemen, this is where we are as a country. Whether you like it or not, this is where we are. There is nothing more American

Starting point is 00:20:19 than beating the shit out of your own teammates right now. Yeah, I've been there. I mean, this is, you have not, you've been here? I've earned a game. This is insane, dude. Yeah, I mean, we fought each other, but not usually on the sideline.

Starting point is 00:20:34 This is crazy. And they got to go, They got to get dressed and ready in the same locker room. Probably got to get on the same bus. Ooh, that's the kind of fight that just rolls over and holds over. Oh, because no one's satisfied. It's evident. No one's satisfied with what happened right there.

Starting point is 00:20:53 So there's going to be another chance when all those coaches and other people aren't going to be around. Bro. That's an ugly scene. Did you guys have shit like that at UVA? We used to have a big Wisconsin W in the locker room. And if you had beef with somebody, you'd be like, I'll see you at the dub. And then you go after practice,

Starting point is 00:21:12 you would like fucking have a little like pissing contest on the dub. A little like, I don't know, you'd miss me. No, we didn't fight on the dub or on the V. We just fought. Sometimes we fought when there's, I know what he's laughing about. One of the biggest fights we ever had, I started it. It changed the season though.

Starting point is 00:21:33 It changed our season, huh? Cardiac calves. Cardiac calves. We won a bunch of close games is because I decided to fight a guy next to the shower. Nobody had any clothes on. It turned into a prison break fight.

Starting point is 00:21:46 A prison break. That's the best way. And it was basically Chris and his roommates versus another group of guys. It was like some factions. There were some guys that weren't running through the line out on the field. But the worst thing about it, the group of guys that were fighting were literally the core six best

Starting point is 00:22:03 players on the team. So it was just like, oh, I saw somebody, I saw somebody land a flying naked double leg kick in the chest. I saw, he was my roommate, actually. I think I told this story. I told the story about homecoming when me and my roommate, like we got in a fight. He was picking on somebody and I might have cleated him somewhere. And his parents after the game were like, where'd that cleat mark come from? We're sitting on the porch drinking. But that guy, we had each other's back when it was us against the other people. And he flew in there and double leg kicked somebody out of nowhere. Out of nowhere. In their chest, bro. In the chest. It was incredible. Mind you, this is like a, I don't want to exaggerate, maybe six seven, six six six. What? Big guy,

Starting point is 00:22:45 six seven. Six seven, probably three hundred or? I got punched in the face a number of times in that fight, but I also punched a bunch of people in the face. It was just a classic melee. Oh my God, a naked six seven white guy double leg flying kick people were worried that the fight was going to spill over and that's the thing when you fight people on your own team it's like when you fight somebody that you play you're like i'll see you in a year motherfucker or i'll see you wherever if you guys it's on the site if you respect each other if you respect each other no it doesn't roll over if you guys well we we squash it at the bill more a couple nights later it was cranberry vodka night it was uh survivor hour survivor hour And we all had a little like sit down, a meeting.

Starting point is 00:23:29 Dollar three. Say, hey, we're good, bro. I love you. I fucking love you. You fucking love me. That's why I got a little, you know, I just want you to run through the line. Yeah. You know?

Starting point is 00:23:37 When we're doing sprints. All right. Next America's team. Kansas City Chief's backup offensive line. Did anybody see this? Ken City Chief's backup offensive line shading the starting offensive line from the sun. Gloom. In San Francisco.

Starting point is 00:23:54 That was incredible. It was kind of demeaning But like when you're really bought in as a team Right, Bo? If they had told us It's about the intangible for us You know, you got to do what you got to do To get that W.

Starting point is 00:24:08 Yeah, yeah Also, the Munich Ravens Shout out to our boy Joe Thomas, your Wisconsin Padger. He was over there for months at the time coaching these big German men And he got himself a little offensive line there The Munich Ravens.

Starting point is 00:24:25 They got some airs. time on the international game yesterday i'd like to call them an america's team as well i don't think i have anything else i'm good anybody got any america's teams no before we get into this thing sunday night football sunday night football what do they call the four o'clock game do they call it the america's game of the week or something yeah but it's like america's game of the week yeah yeah they have america's game of the week at four o'clock then they have football night in america i walked down yesterday to say hello to wayland my eight-year-old son after the America's game of the week and I'm putting him to bed before the late game and he goes dad the America's games of the week have been really really bad this year he goes that game was

Starting point is 00:25:07 cheeks today your kids your kids are spot on with sports already and they don't even know it he was like he was like Dallas got killed by Baltimore a couple weeks ago was like Detroit blew somebody out he was like, these games suck. So we will talk about that game in a second, but for football night in America, for football night in America. Wait all day for Sunday night. I've been waiting all day for my grill.

Starting point is 00:25:33 Where's my grill? Right to the left of you. Oh, it's right to the left of me? Oh, man. Oh, can you grab me that grill, Cowboys, so I don't have to get up and take off all my broadcasting. They better be in who I think is in that grill.

Starting point is 00:25:45 Who do you think is in this grill? Oh, man. You're like Brad Pitt. It better be your boy. What's in the grill? Yeah. What's in the grill? It better be your boy.

Starting point is 00:25:55 Are you ready? Okay, go to the wide shot. Who's in the grill? Who's in the grill? It better be... Oh, look at this. It better be the ayahuasca head ass. Brown little hot dog.

Starting point is 00:26:07 Yep. Ayahuasca head ass. Oh, that used to be a hot dog. Now it's just the Jets. The Jets are cooked. Oh, my God. They're so cooked. That's not even...

Starting point is 00:26:17 The Jets are cooked. That hot dog is not. not even cooked enough. It's not cooked enough. I'm not touched the hot dog. Ugh. Eat it. No, I'm not going to eat this hot dog.

Starting point is 00:26:27 Eat it. Yeah, how'd you? We're sure that's hot dog. Someone donated in the chat, Chris. Eat it. No, I'm not going to eat it. Is it edible? I would not eat it right.

Starting point is 00:26:41 Somebody check with the Steelers this morning. See how their stomach's feeling. They just, they devoured the jets last night. And the jets are cooked. you can take this grill out of here we don't need to you know we don't need to here i'll just i'll just put the hot dog on the table you know as we talk about the jets what do you think that glizzy yeah put that glizzy that burr glizzy this glizzy got this is the glizzy from the set of the movie backdraft i think is the jets are cooked my man bro they're cooked i don't care how soft the schedule gets

Starting point is 00:27:19 I don't care how much they come together. They're just certain things mathematically that make it really hard for a team to get back in there. And I feel like as big of a deal as we made whatever happened over the last week and, you know, for good reason in some ways because I do think of if the season started today, they'd have more runway to get this thing right.

Starting point is 00:27:42 But they're cooked. They're absolutely cooked. You know, they asked Rogers, how do we fix this? The first thing he says is stop listening to you guys. And then he goes, and I have to play better, to his credit. And then he said, we got to run the ball better so we can actually throw it. So it's-

Starting point is 00:28:00 New York media, yeah. That New York media is going to get to him. Eventually it is. It's going to get to him. I think what's going to get to him more than anything is just being two and five or three and six or whatever it's going to be. Like, this is a long road that they have to walk the rest of the season. Absolutely, bro.

Starting point is 00:28:16 And I said it last week. I think this is a dumpster fire. And me personally, I don't think he has the locker room anymore. I think if he did have the locker room, as soon as he called out Mike Williams, I think a lot of players probably like they didn't appreciate. Hold that glissie while you talk about the jet. They don't like it. And it's just something that I think that something like that has to turn around.

Starting point is 00:28:43 And then to see the kid happy that he's still there, but for them to put him up for trade. He missed two practices, and then he's back out there. I wonder what was said, because just to be out there, and yeah, he caught a pass, but I wouldn't want to- Mike Williams? Yeah. When Mike Williams caught that ball on fourth down, and they took him out right after, he looked at the sideline like, man, fuck, you could tell he really wanted to get in and like- And get going. And just like prove himself right after last week, which he messed that up. But, you know, he wanted to be out there. And then they threw him a ball at the end of the game.

Starting point is 00:29:19 And it was at the left pylon. I don't know if it was a palms up at Aaron Rogers or the ref. But it was a definite palms up in the direction of both of those people. And the ball was not back shoulder. The ball was like, you know, so it was just. But look, if Aaron Rogers doesn't call him out, those plays, they don't get polarized as they are now. Yeah, no right. No one cares.

Starting point is 00:29:40 Like, you don't call out your teammate like in the media. And I didn't, and I last week didn't take a turn on that thing because I'm like, I beat him up enough after the, you know, and I don't want to become this person and just seems like anti-Rogers. It's not that. Just Rogers, the GM, is not very good. No. And, you know, like, Rogers, the guy who says,

Starting point is 00:29:59 I don't have enough power. And then Devante. I mean, Rogers, the quarterback is not very good right now. Right now either. No, no, no, he's not. And, you know, the Beanie, the pick last night to the Beanie Bishop pick in the beginning, there's reason to believe that ball didn't get picked off

Starting point is 00:30:15 eight out of ten times. Like, the way he got his, head around on that thing was a great play. It was a great play. So, you know, there's that pick, and then there's the one where Garrett Wilson drops the ball. But, you know, in totality, when you look at the entire season, the list of people to blame is just dwindling down and down. And eventually the quarterback has to take some blame. And, you know, defense has to take blame, but you know what else happened to the defense? You fired the head coach who probably as average as they've been in some areas was keeping them competitive. And Ulbrick now,

Starting point is 00:30:48 as the headset on. So who's getting the defense ready the way they were getting ready a month ago? Now all of a sudden you took both their parents out of the household. And, you know, the group's not that great anyways. The Jets are a year behind. That's the problem. Last year, that defense would have been good enough in this situation to help them stabilize. But they let guys walk. They lost guys and the pass rush is not the same. Will McDonald has eight sacks. I'm going to say the quiet part out loud because I like Will McDonald a lot. Six of those are unblocked. So if you want to to look at this and say, hey, well, we've got a couple good rushers. Things could turn around. Like, I don't think so. You know, and the run game is a problem. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:31:27 What? What is it? That's hate. A little bit. I mean, it's sacks or sac? I hear you, though. No, a sack is not a sack. Bro, there's so many people miss open. I understand. But, okay, now we're going to get bogged down talking about you call me a hater. But let's do it for a minute or two. No, no, no, no. No, no. So what I'm saying is if you was a white. Yeah, and he'd really be hating, Nate. You don't have, my point is you don't have a game-changing player up front. That's the point. I got you.

Starting point is 00:31:56 That's the point. It's not, hey, Will McDonald's had a nice year, but he's not a one as a rusher, like a true one. And Quinn and Williams is your one. And I haven't seen a lot. I got Reddit coming back, though. They got Reddit coming back as of yesterday. I know. But I haven't heard of anything since the game.

Starting point is 00:32:14 It's going to take him a while to get going. I mean, I want to know how you feel about this, Chris, but someone to ask you. asked me recently like you think reddick will be you know viable like you know soon i was like i don't think not when they're running the ball up their ass in four minute mode yeah yeah very true but also it's like there's something to be said for missing camp and like coming back with fresh legs but you need to like feel the speed of the game and you need to be out there like you can't just coming off the street like that i don't care redick is a beast but you like you need to play football to be good at football it sounds so simple, but like he's not going to be good for a little bit.

Starting point is 00:32:50 And that's why from the jump, I'm not buying into all this Aaron Rogers, even acting like the GM bullshit. Bro, you didn't even want to come to camp. Like, you came here and you started off not even showing up to mandatory or non-mandatory stuff and it made it a story. And then you want to wonder why stuff isn't going right. It's, it's, it's, it's not all him, but it's not all him. And believe me, I'm not sitting here caping for Rogers.

Starting point is 00:33:16 because you've heard me talk about this thing. I mean, like, after that trade happened or after the solid firing happened in some of the quotes, like, I kind of turned on them. I mean, like, hey, hand up. Like, it kind of bothered me. But it's not just him. The defense, I mean, the secondary is decimated last night.

Starting point is 00:33:34 They got the ball run up their ass. They've gotten the ball run up their ass the whole season. They can't get it right with the pre-snap stuff. Tyron Smith is not the same guy he once was. Hall of Famer. amazing player, wish I could be him. But the point is, right now in his current form, he's a little bit of a liability.

Starting point is 00:33:53 And that's what happens to players they get older. You know, they haven't been able to run the ball with authority. Breece Hall is basically, I cannot believe a month ago, we were sitting here questioning Breece Hall because the guy from Wisconsin had a better game against Denver when he's the whole offense. Okay, and they didn't look like they were on the same page, Rogers and Devante last night early and often.

Starting point is 00:34:14 Devante. They have such great chemistry. They were giddy seeing each other in the pre-production and they will. And they will. They'll get it. They'll get it. But my point is you're sitting here at two and five. Yeah. And I think like going in that that Pittsburgh game, you're thinking, oh, maybe we can get these guys. But Pittsburgh's a better team. And so when you look at- I just say something about Aaron Rogers, I don't want to move on from this yet because I was thinking about this last night. And like, I hate when quarterbacks, I mean, it is obviously the most, it's the biggest spotlight, right? It is kind of all about quarterbacks all the time. But you just get this sense that Aaron Rogers loves that. And like his comments where he threw Williams or whatever under the bus bothered me. His comments where he threw Saul under the bus bothered me. But then it's like they're playing the Steelers and you look at Justin Fields, okay,

Starting point is 00:35:02 who's probably playing the best football of his NFL career. And he got bench for Russell Wilson and a surprising move for Mike Tomlin. And he was an absolute class act in the media about it. You know what I mean? So it's like you would, it's just. surprising to me that like Fields is the one who's saying all the right things in the media doing all the right things in the media with a hard situation and a guy who's been the MVP four fucking times or whatever and Aaron Rogers is continually just like shifting blame and making like

Starting point is 00:35:30 all these you know it feels like he's contributing in a way to some of the dysfunction well the Jets organization with the way he is in the media it's like why can you just take some fucking notes from Justin Fields like I never thought I'd be saying that I would push back on the best football of his career i just i i think the best football of his career is coming little spurts i thought this and we'll talk about the russell thing in a second but he's playing his team is four and two and to your point he's benched and he shows class and that sort of thing and rogers rogers is a guy that he's a little prickly and it comes through when he's at the microphone and it's easy to say hey it's it's all of our fault for reacting to the way he is at the microphone but when you

Starting point is 00:36:10 take the microphone every week then you basically do what i'm doing for a little a little living on McAfee and people don't like you. Like, that's not our fault. You know, that's, if you don't come across likable, that's not everybody else's fault. But here's what's not the Jets fault, the players on that team, is having been through this whole thing, repeated quarterback failures into like, oh, we've got a savior. And we're not ready to capitalize.

Starting point is 00:36:36 There are guys in this team, and they're not, it's not the only place that this is happening, but guys are wasting their prime. somebody like Garrett Wilson to me and he made mistakes last night does he make those mistakes if he's not out there pressing? You know like I don't know. I don't know the answer to that. I know as a player sometimes you

Starting point is 00:36:55 you bring in somebody that throws off the rhythm of the entire situation. He might be feeling like damn bro. I waited my whole career to catch the ball from a Hall of Famer and he doesn't think I'm enough and they can't get me open. And you know there's guys on that team who are going to look up in a year or two and be like I spent four years with this team during this period, shoot guys that have been there longer.

Starting point is 00:37:17 Exactly. You know, a guy like C.J. Mosley, who's played great football, who came over from Baltimore a few years back, and what does he have to show for it? Right. You know, there's people making decisions coming to this team, falling for the Okee doke. And they're the same team. By the way, they're 4 and 32 New York teams in primetime games, the last 36 games. I could not believe the stat that I read.

Starting point is 00:37:38 And the Jets are half of that equation. And, you know, I think the most important thing is, if you look to a team that's two and five and you say, can we get in the playoffs, there was a team last year who was two and five and got to playoffs. You know who that team was the Green Bay Packers. It was Rogers' own team. You know why? Because they're set up better as a roster. And so when you look at like, you know, Brady going to Tampa or Peyton Manning going to Denver and sticking the landing on a second act for a franchise quarterback, These guys aren't asked to, and they do not come in and save the day. I think Tom Brady was as close to that as you could get, but guess what he also had? Quality players around him, an offensive line, and an organizational vision that continues today. You know, the reason the bucks are still good, and they stuck the landing on Baker Mayfield, is they have an organization. They have a way of doing things.

Starting point is 00:38:32 You might not think Todd Bowles is perfect, but he's going to do things a certain way. and I think they've just made great decisions from a personnel standpoint and they also didn't expect him to come in and they didn't listen he brought certain guys that he wanted down there but I feel like he's a better GM and a better quarterback ultimately a better leader all those things you can say the same for Peyton Manning and Peyton Manning when he won a Super Bowl he wasn't even playing well you know his neck was barely hanging on you know so like to think Rogers was going to come in just off the strength of having a pea shooter on his shoulder like an RPG up there that he's just going to be able to save the day for

Starting point is 00:39:11 the Jets is like it's ignoring the context of the entire organization and how it's been laid out and how how things have gone for them so yeah two and five last year the Packers did it that kid Jordan Love who replaced you did it I don't think this team's going two and five and getting in teams not good enough how but hurt you think Aaron Rogers is watching uh love in the Packers right now I think he's about everything like just going back You're seeing like if he's talking back to the media, that means he's probably on social media looking at stuff. You see all the stats that they have through what seven games last year? Zach Wilson was four and three and they're two and five.

Starting point is 00:39:50 So it's just it's just a funny situation. And the grass isn't always greener. Grass is not always greener. And I feel for Devante Adams, who I think came there for the right reasons. I do. I do. No, I don't. No, I do feel for Devante Adams because. He's trying to go with his buddy.

Starting point is 00:40:04 He's trying to go with his buddy who happens to be a great quarterback, not playing like it right now. It's not smart, bro. It's not smart. I feel for him not making a smart decision. I'll put it that way. I think he came in with the best of intentions. He still might have a big year and get paid. No, go somewhere to be uncomfortable, bro, and compete and be a contender.

Starting point is 00:40:21 Who cares if he's your buddy and it's like all that part? No, like you're at the end of your career, bro. You only have a small window of time to try to do what you're trying to do. I got to say that when he laid out. Like a Mari Cooper. Yeah. Yes. When he laid out.

Starting point is 00:40:34 to tackle that guy, I felt bad for him because he was showing great effort. Devante Adams always been a, I mean, other than the photographer thing, let me take a page out of the Brown's book and say, you know, he's been a consummate pro for most of his pro career. In his case, he's just shoving a photographer. Okay. But like, Devante Adams, he's a good dude in my book. He's a great player.

Starting point is 00:40:58 And somebody that I hate to say it is now going to be catching the ball from somebody else in a year or two. And it's not going to be Rogers. It might be the kid from FSU, like you pointed out last night. It could be Cam Ward. It could be like, I don't know who, but you might be in the sweepstakes. Could you have a shot of being traded again, a la Randy Moss in 2010? That's pretty damn interesting. I hadn't thought about that.

Starting point is 00:41:21 We got two weeks, I think. Friendship over, though, I think. They're going to keep them just so Aaron Rogers shuts the fuck up. All right. So breaking news, Geronimo, Allison and Robert Tunyon just signed by the Jets. that's funny i was going to ask if geordy nelson was around yeah okay he's he's flying the plane that now pittsburgh fans you understand here i you know i'm always i'm always hyping you guys up and speaking directly to you folks on this program uh i i didn't want to go this far without talking

Starting point is 00:41:52 about y'all but this is listen as a guy who thought justin field should start to start the season i was also the guy last week who understood why they made the change and the fluidity with which this situation has developed and, you know, the difference between looking at it on the surface and really grind in some tape and figuring out why it is they're making this change. On the surface, it makes no sense. It's what Bo said. Justin's playing the best football of his career and the team is four and two. And so how could you sweep the rug out from under this kit? And he has handled it really well. But I think for the Steelers, a lot of it is like we see what is on the surface and i think arthur smith and you know the people in that

Starting point is 00:42:39 offensive meeting room are seeing what could be and at times we just have to trust tomlin arthur smith yeah there's a reason they made the decision i speculated it might be because the play action pass there were a lot of reasons that that you know you might make the change and for a quarter and a half we were all riding the wave we were all like kept fields back in like what the fuck is it okay but he was getting booed Russell was getting booed he was getting booed and then you know what happened the moonball happened and it wasn't the prettiest moonball I've ever seen I mean I played that guy twice a year he used to break our backs late in games I mean we kicked their ass for 48 minutes and then like the the fourth quarter starts and he hits some shot and they win 20 to 7 or something

Starting point is 00:43:25 like that like we but but this is what this guy does and I think when you look at fields not being able to take advantage of some of these shots. Not only does Russell give a guy like George Pickens a chance, and that's all he needs. Toriko said it last night. If it's a 50-50 ball, he's more like 70-30. You know, and last year I said this, I said George Pickens has Hall of Fame potential,

Starting point is 00:43:48 and all the Steelers aggregators laughed at me. And the fans, I had people in my mentions like, hey, easy. But you can see when a 50-50 ball is thrown to him, the strength of his hands at the, catch point. You just got to give this guy a chance. And so I think it's not only giving the guy a chance, but also knowing decisively where the shot is to take and when to take it. And I think like that's the one thing. Justin Fields is a little laggy in seeing the play develop, seeing the field, he hasn't accessed the middle of the field, and the target share was way out of whack. And we went through

Starting point is 00:44:24 it last week. There were guys who were barely touching the ball. I thought something that was really interesting besides some of the numbers that I'm about to give you is the target share okay bear with me here steelers fans and and you you last night pickins 38% of the targets that's up from 30% so like we thought pickens was getting the ball too much if you'd have told me coming out of this game he was going to get the ball more i would have thought well one of the other guys getting the ball they all got the ball more Washington got the ball more 15% target share yesterday as opposed to four previously austin 15% as opposed to 12 previously warren 12th That's a big one as opposed to 5%.

Starting point is 00:45:01 Why isn't he getting the ball? Okay, you got it last night. Jefferson saw a slight uptick in Target share. The guys who did not get the ball as much in the passing game, Friermouth, I'm okay with that. That might just be a one-night thing. And Harris, which I'm absolutely okay with. He got 11% less of targets last night than he did weeks one through six.

Starting point is 00:45:20 So if you look at the way it lays out, guys are getting the ball more. Play action pass, boots, things like that. That showed up early and often. get that guy washing the ball i mean he's out there punishing little guys with the football and he's got to be the biggest fucking tight end since gronk dude oh he's enormous i mean he's bigger than wrong and and so when i look at when i look at the efficiency pre-russ EPA per rush 20th in the league EPA per pass 14th in the league 18th EPA total per play last night EPA per rush ninth in the league, EPA per pass, fifth in the league, fifth in EPA per play. And part of that is the Jets defense,

Starting point is 00:45:58 but part of this is a commitment to running the football and then enjoying the things that come off of it. Whereas before you couldn't, because play action passed last night, 42%, previously 31%. I'm throwing a lot of numbers at you, but sometimes it's easier than going through the all-22 and pointing out all the ways that the team improved. These are ways to describe that. Okay, so play action, weeks 1 through 6, 29th in play action percent. Play action pass success rate, 28 percent. And then Russ last night, 12th in play action pass success rate at 43 percent.

Starting point is 00:46:34 So holy shit, that paints the picture. Yeah. One thing I was wondering about too when they were kind of before Russ, it felt like he was like a little uncomfortable at the beginning of the game. We talked about on the broadcast. I think we all kind of saw it. And then he got very comfortable, but he did do a good job of running their offense, protecting the ball.

Starting point is 00:46:52 Ultimately, like, got hot at the right time. I got a good win. But the question I was kind of wondering, the thing I was thinking about is you think, you know, Mike Tom was the decision to start Russ. Does that speak to maybe want to continue to develop fields more and like kind of teach him? You know, you know how you have those young quarterbacks in the league

Starting point is 00:47:10 and exactly like, you know, love and Aaron Rogers, Aaron Rogers and Brett Farv. Like, do you think they want to keep him around and kind of develop him a little bit more? I think that's a great question. And I think it relates to a, question i'd be asking Shane stuyken and the colts which is like and fields is way ahead of where anthony richardson is no but that's a perfect comparison but but to me bow you hit the nail on the head

Starting point is 00:47:31 that might be why and i think like this is nothing bad has happened that can't be fixed for justin fields in in pittsburg they sat him down four and two with at the right time behind you're with the team behind yeah exactly and so you so now however long this break is he's coming into with a clear head I said this last week. If this had happened in Chicago, and for good reason, I would have said Justin might not have trusted the coaches. But I think he trusts this group. That's what came across to me.

Starting point is 00:48:00 And once you have trust, you have the player's attention and you have the player's opportunity for development right in front of it. And so I think that like if Russ is a one or two year thing and fields can, you know, stand right on the sideline. I mean, Russ is just a cheap vet rental from the Broncos. They're not paying him shit. No, they're not. So it didn't hurt to bring him in.

Starting point is 00:48:22 Yeah, I think another piece of it, another piece of it, too, is looking at the back half of their schedule. I'm sure Tomlin wanted to know for sure they're going to be playing their best ball. You have Ravens twice, Bengals twice, Chiefs. You have commies, you have Eagles. Like, they've done a great job for the first half. They did what they had to do to position themselves, but they have to be playing great ball in the second half here.

Starting point is 00:48:43 And hey, look at the output offensively last night. Look at the explosives. But another, like, little wrinkle why I like it, just for thinking ahead possibilities is if Tomlin does decide to throw Justin Fields in there for a few plays here and there in games coming up. What it does is everyone whom plays you for the rest of the year, you have to take timeout in your practice during that week to prepare for fields and prepare for Russ because they have two different set of plays and Justin Fields can kill you with his legs. So can Russell Wilson, but they can kill you with their legs in different ways.

Starting point is 00:49:15 So it's something I think we have to respect Tomlin and his choices. I mean, he's one of, if not the longest tenure coach for a reason. And that's a choice that we might not see what's going on, but he obviously knows what he's doing or he has an idea. And I think everything from whatever he's thinking is starting off the right way. In the second quarter, we set it out loud. We're like, we're starting to be like, hey, are we trusting Tomlin? because, like, he kept Matt Canada around a while, and, like, that wasn't the right thing.

Starting point is 00:49:48 But maybe this is a decision that he's making. That's the right one. And I think for Justin Fields, there's plenty of time. And you said it, different packages, maybe get them in there in the red zone some, get him in there in short yardage situations, whatever it might be. The taste of him have it. Yeah, like, seriously. That's it. Maybe they need more time to put that together, and that's why you didn't see it last night.

Starting point is 00:50:09 Yeah, like, I don't know. And we'll talk about it. I think last night they didn't want to create any computer. That's what I think they didn't do it last night. No, absolutely. Yes. I made this decision. I'm sick of this.

Starting point is 00:50:19 I'm not going to throw fields in here. Yep, I agree. And in the red zone, in the low red zone, I'm not going to run these quarterback zone reads with him because I want the team to understand that I'm giving Russell. Richard. Richard Doom said one good game and everybody forgets how bad Russell was last year. I don't know, man.

Starting point is 00:50:34 They scored 35 points. I think what we're doing is we're reacting to the now and, you know, the now on this football team. And I also don't think he was as bad as you think maybe last. year. I mean, at least statistically, they flashed a stat up last night of his last 9, 10 starts. And, you know, with the defense like the one that they have right now, you got to remember, the Broncos defense last night or last year was the defense that gave up 70 points. They didn't play like the defense that's playing this year. And I don't think Sean Payton liked

Starting point is 00:51:03 for us. And that's his prerogative, you know, and it's not going to work for everybody. But I think what Russ did is he came into a situation for the first time in his career where he had to earn it and he had to say okay like I'm not part of the day one plans like I'm going to take a back seat and get in my bag a little bit and get motivated to come back and I think that stuff matters like being a vet and having to earn it again is a hell of a thing it can rejuvenate you I remember when I was a vet going to New England coming off a two years on I are and I had done my my I had done my best over eight years in St. Louis and was an established guy but now all of a sudden I'm knocked down to nothing.

Starting point is 00:51:45 And for me, that gave me the motivation and, like, the stick-to-itiveness going through that process extended my career. And I'm not saying Russ is on death's door, but what I am saying is, like, this can help him, having gone through this last six weeks of soul searching, and for once, just sitting still and trying to figure out what is it about my game that can be better on the back third. And you know what else is crazy? Just Russell being a guy that, like, you hear all these. narratives about how he's corny. I don't know if we ever seen this. We ever seen this before.

Starting point is 00:52:18 Where do those come from? But I am, I was shocked and excited to see that Russell Wilson was doing prearranged handshakes celebrations with guys. Yeah, that's always a good sign. I mean, yeah, yeah, it is. Aaron Rogers would never. No, like, there's some quarterbacks that really wouldn't. And like I think that goes, like that's like a comfortability or like I really trust you. And of all people, he has a handshake with George Pickens, someone that we see who's always looking in. He's always fucking open. But outside looking in, he looks like a guy that maybe you're unsure about what's about to go on.

Starting point is 00:52:58 But I mean, I'm going to happen now. The funniest thing last week was when George Pickens, they put a microphone in his face. And they're like, have you and Russ been working on? And he just took the bait. like like like like like catfish man i know he was starting last week and and he was like yeah i mean it's it's his first start and everybody's like oh fuck you know there's there goes three days of like i'm not sure for and they still won and uh and they looked really good once uh once things got rolling so for naji harris after the last touchdown to come onto the sideline and him and a bunch of dudes

Starting point is 00:53:29 are doing the belt to ass celebration like that was kind of the mindset that that team had the other the team was focused on everything else and Pittsburgh was in a foxhole at four and two. They felt like they were the foxhole team. The Jets felt like they were the foxhole team, but everybody's looking at Aaron and Devante, save us. You can't. Two players can't save a team. And so.

Starting point is 00:53:51 Oh, and to your boy, Nick Siriani, that's how you respond and you talk to your fans after a win. We'll get there. Shout out to Nick Siriani. I'm going to put him on this damn t-shirt. see um but but the whole thing is i do want to shout out this uh no no no we'll move on to the next thing we'll move on the next thing i do need one thing before we talk about the next thing do you guys have that thing can you bring me that thing can you take this cooked hug though yeah you i'll give you something else i'll give you i'll give you something else i'll give you something else

Starting point is 00:54:25 oh you see this little uncooked bangles dog with the little what you did there can you zoom in here can you zoom in here you see the bangles they got their little tiger stripes. I had them put the tiger stripes on the uncooked hot dog. The Bengals are not cooked. The Bengals are not cooked, Nate. Now, they're going to lose this week to the Eagles, I think. Let me see something.

Starting point is 00:54:47 But take a look at that hot dog. It's so amazing. That hot dog's so uncooked, it'll make you sick. I'm going to take a leak while you look at that hot dog. It's amazing that you can call a team uncooked, a team that last week against the Giants. Just tell the peanut gallery. I got to go.

Starting point is 00:55:01 Look, last week against a struggling, terrible giant. Jones hasn't thrown a touchdown at MetLife since he got his new contract. You're happy about a win against them. They struggle to win that game. And then they struggle to beat the Browns. The Browns played three quarterbacks. Three quarterbacks, Chris, I know you can hear me. Three different quarterbacks in this game. And it wasn't a convincing win. Like, I don't see how he thinks that the Bengals are not cooked. And they played two quarterbacks that are better than their starter, though. Say it one more time. No, bro, I agree, absolutely.

Starting point is 00:55:39 But with that dumpster fire in Cleveland, I just feel like the Bengals, if they were a good team, this would be like, oh, let us get back. These last two games would have been like, oh, let's put up 50 so we can put everyone on alert that we're not cooked, but not going to for me. So you want style points? So the way you win games doesn't matter,

Starting point is 00:56:03 but the way you lose games, well, the way you win games matters, but the way you lose games doesn't matter. The way you win games only matters and Nate's minding just close to beating the two best teams in the AFC. Almost doesn't care. So it doesn't matter that the Browns

Starting point is 00:56:18 almost beat them or that the Giants almost beat them. It does for you saying that you believe that they're not. I know. I'm just pointing out the inconsistency here. That's all I'm saying. All of a sudden, do you remember what we said a couple? Actually, they've been on a run since you call them.

Starting point is 00:56:34 They're going to be like, oh, they were this close. No, I'm not. To win. Hey, if they don't get in the playoffs, you're right. How does that feel? Oh, I mean. That's all we're doing right now is if in December they're in the playoff race, I'll put it this way. Then you were wrong about them being cooked in September.

Starting point is 00:56:49 I agree. I agree. It could slide in. I doubt it. The two things about the Bengals, Gino Stone got hurt, left in the aircast. And then after the game, they said he's going to be okay. That's a big deal. And then, you know, Orlando Brown leaves.

Starting point is 00:57:04 with a calf injury and that sounds like a big deal but they say he's probably going to be okay so you know like another step in the right direction from the Bengals what do you want who do the Bengals play next week?

Starting point is 00:57:19 Play the Eagles. Guess who's favored? The Eagles. Nope, the Bengals. Really? And guess what that means? The Eagles are probably cooked too. So the Eagles are cooked

Starting point is 00:57:30 if a team that is cooked is favored to beat you really maybe oh come on now that's just an overly simplistic way look at that the chat oh the chat agrees with me how the tables have turned how the turn tables 56% of of chatters of locals say that i vote that i'm right did you vote you agree with me yeah ball no i kind of just disagree and made out of principle I knew it. I knew it.

Starting point is 00:58:05 Yeah. But only time will tell, guys. Only time will tell. But it's a bitter sweet. That's what I said to you a couple weeks ago. You said time doesn't tell it. We don't need the time. But look.

Starting point is 00:58:15 Throw out the clocks. It's going to be bittersweet next week. You know why? Why? Because I'm going to bet heavy on the bangles. Really? Heavy. Really?

Starting point is 00:58:22 Yeah. Just because you're betting on a cook team. I mean, they're favored. Something's up with you, bro. Their favorite. All right, big day for Trey Hendry. They had a couple sacks. Charlie Jones,

Starting point is 00:58:34 Charlie Jones basically saved the day to make this a game where, you know, out of the gate, a team that's tormented Joe Burrow and they have had their struggles with this team. Like, to me, I know where the bit is the bit, but like this was, a win is a win against this team. A win is a win against his defense.

Starting point is 00:58:53 The way they have owned the Bengals. And to get that special teams touchdown out of the gate was big. And to come away without the injuries being made. Major, hopefully, fingers crossed. That's a big one. That's going to be a damn good game, Philly and Sincy. We're going to talk about Philly in a little bit. We'll find out if the defense is better.

Starting point is 00:59:11 We will, because this offense can get guys open. I mean, there's a lot of guys you've got to cover out on that field. So let's talk about the Browns thing, shall we? Okay. So, I mean, ask me how I feel. I can't start a monologue on this thing. Ask me, ask me how I feel. How do you feel about the...

Starting point is 00:59:30 I'll tell you. how I feel, Chris. You guys feel like you're not going to. Oh, wow. You're not going to say it. But to me, dude, this, this is, if anything, some sort of proof that there is indeed a higher power. I don't know how it worked out like this.

Starting point is 00:59:43 I don't think James is going to like you invoking God. Yeah. On this. Whatever. Did you see Jay Boo's interview after the game, too? Oh, we saw. We saw Jay Boo's interview. I love James.

Starting point is 00:59:56 He's a great teammate. He's a friend of mine. But I always say it's funny. Maybe too good a teammate. people say things like he's out here putting his life on the line like you he just had a devastating injury it's fucking horrible it doesn't matter who it is it sucks you know yeah but he's not putting his life on the line on sundays okay i think i think my thing is more like what i'm not going to do today and this is a very human moment as an analyst i like to come in here and have my ducks in a row

Starting point is 01:00:22 and and and have something insightful to say and like right here i don't think there's any right answer to your reaction to people cheering Deshaun's injury because as a player, generally, I don't, I hate people cheering injuries, but I also hate sexual assault, which do I hate more? I mean, maybe if you don't want. I hate sexual assault more. Okay. And so it's a pretty simple, it's a pretty simple calculus for me is I'm not going to be the one cheering the injury, but I'm not going to moral high horse on anybody this morning who did, unless you're a Browns fan that justified it back in the day when you were like oh it's no big deal like just they're not criminal cases you know like or it was a massage you know like whatever however you you justify being a browns fan

Starting point is 01:01:10 if you're one of those people then double shame on you if you're somebody that doesn't like sexual assault and is pissed that the franchise which is already run down over decades you've been waiting for a savior for 20 plus years and 30 years and then they they they throw you this guy with everything he has going on and you're cheering I'm not going to be one of those guys who stands up at the podium and is like hey bad you know what I said yesterday when it happened oh DTR's in the game yeah that's it move on yeah you know what I'm saying and to me and I like justice okay I have a strong sense of justice as somebody with an ADHD brain. That's like one of the side effects of having ADHD.

Starting point is 01:01:57 You want justice to be served for things when they're wrong. This is one that I don't need anything as a fan. Now, those victims probably feel a different kind of way and I don't blame them. But as a bystander, as a fan, a sports fan, I didn't need that to happen yesterday to feel like justice was served. You know why justice is served? I mean, it's not in a strict sense because if he did, those things he's out there playing football and earning that's not good but i would never want to trade

Starting point is 01:02:25 places with dachian watson not with all the money he has not with all the things he can do with that money i don't i don't care what he has going on in his life i would never want to be him and like for the rest of his life you only get one of them he's that guy and when he left the stadium yesterday on a cart and the whole stadium's cheering and you know everybody hates you and you're a failure now at football on top of life. The rest of his life is punishment. No, yeah. And so me as a bystander, I don't need anything.

Starting point is 01:03:01 And I'm not going to cheer, but I'm just going to be like, oh, DTR's, man. But here's my thing. I think it's kind of crazy everyone's reaction to those fans cheering. Like, if you had to put, if we put this situation and hypothetically in front of you before it happened and said, hey, if Deshawn Watson got a season engine ending injury? I'm just saying, like, how would

Starting point is 01:03:28 you react to it? I don't think any of those fans, if it's a home game, would be like, we would immediately go silent. Like, usually it does when you see, like, one of your star players hurt or whatever it is. I just think it's crazy for people to feel like, oh my God, I can't believe this.

Starting point is 01:03:46 These football fans did this. Jawsoul says, Justice got served, because none of them filed criminal cases and got paid without actually having to prove guilt, but then some like emoji. I love all of a sudden we're just pretty selective about when we trust the justice system, right? Yeah. We're just sometimes yes, sometimes no. The other comment I wanted to respond to was John Stockton.

Starting point is 01:04:08 He gets too much hate for what he did. If he's a free man, then treat him with respect. John Stockton respectfully, no. And the irony here is that you play with Carl Malone. that was a good one and I guess I guess if I guess if it's all about being a free man

Starting point is 01:04:29 then nobody not in jail should be judged nobody walking around free should be judged in this society I'm glad we got there okay I'm glad we got there good good and here's the other thing and I didn't want to come in here moral high ground the guys on the Browns the way they cape for him almost made me think

Starting point is 01:04:46 that there's some conspiracy that they believe is going on tone death It's just being tone deaf I'm not gonna moral high horse these guys I'm just gonna say like are you kidding me bro It's tone deaf Are you kidding me He was a model citizen for college

Starting point is 01:05:00 And then most of the pros Like listen to what you're saying out loud Listen Listen to what you're saying out loud I'm not trying to justify it No I'm not talking about you I know I'm talking about the player And I don't know if they're best friends

Starting point is 01:05:12 With this guy and like yeah Maybe they think they're being Good teammates by like And the worst time is sticking up for your teammate when he's probably going through the worst time in his life and everything like that, but it's just toned down. John Stockton, lots of fans expose themselves as bad humans,

Starting point is 01:05:28 expose themselves as an interesting choice of words here. Lots of fans expose themselves as bad human beings with how they acted after Sean's injury. They're walking free. They haven't been charged with a crime. We can't judge those fans. You know what I'm saying? They're not criminals by the letter of the law.

Starting point is 01:05:47 So I don't know, man. Anyways, whatever the future holds for that football player, I'm not sure. But it's probably a good thing for the Browns, honestly, that he's not taking snaps the rest of the season for a few reasons. For a football reason, and then also for the fact that every time he goes out there, you are reminded of, you know, if you want to call it 95% guilt, 99% guilt, 90% guilt, I don't care if it's 70, 30. The 70 part of that equation looms large every time he takes the field. And for me, it's way hard in 70. So, come on. I mean, like, let's be real.

Starting point is 01:06:23 Let's be real. So, yeah, I don't, people cheering, you're not going to see me wagging the finger at them. I didn't do it. And I also wouldn't be the guy at the locker. That's probably my least favorite James Winston-Mran of all times. Oh, man. And it's just like, James,

Starting point is 01:06:37 you're about to have a chance to step in there. If DTR is, in fact, hurt. and that's not the way you want to start it out like oh he got yeah he got hurt and then and then you know james comes in and so i don't know you know if he goes out there next next week like what if those fans boo him for for defending him or like whatever it is not it's not a good start it's not a good yeah it's not good and then and then the worst thing these very passionate fans yeah he's funny now listen the worst thing about it is to me is nick chubbs the guy that everybody should be rallied around and like yeah you know he goes 11 for 24 which is bad sign right like i thought he would come in and

Starting point is 01:07:19 be able to against the bangles front right which has been kind of like they've gotten some guys back but but the whole thing is nick chubbs homecoming he can't even get that off without it being a big think peace game you know because de sean watson exists and and got hurt and so now all the scabs are opening up so um all right so what's next do we have an ad read or we get to the chief and the Niners. We will. Lions fans, we will get there. I wanted to start the show once we got through that little section with two best teams

Starting point is 01:07:52 in the league if you're taking an AFC team and an NFC team. I think the AFC team has proved to be the chiefs. I don't care how bad they're playing. Offensively, I don't care how many injuries they have. And then the Lions yesterday made a strong statement. And I will outline that because I had some people, you know, sometimes I hop on after the 4 p.ms and do this live reaction you should check that out every week i try to give you something but not everything i'm going to give you here and one of those things i didn't give you was the lions

Starting point is 01:08:22 and i had people being like oh you're just not going to talk about the lions don't do that that's not how that thing works on sunday afternoon you're always going to get a breakdown on monday especially if you play like the lions play and don't forget who put you in the soup bowl lion fans got a chill act like you've been there before your team's going to be good for a while Like, no one's forgetting about it. We should, yeah. No, let's be constructive. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:08:45 Yeah, I'm not going to say you got to chill. I understand why you're not chilling. But of all podcasts, we actually put you in the Super Bowl. I think I had you winning it. Okay. All right, so Chiefs, do you remember when Andy Reid wouldn't run the ball back in the day? Yes.

Starting point is 01:08:59 Yeah, yeah. Yes, I do. Guy that grew up in Philly. Yep. Okay, and I can remember when Doug didn't run the ball. Bo, what did they used to say? They'd be like, well, that's just that Andy in him. Yep.

Starting point is 01:09:10 You remember that? Yeah. He's like, yeah, I remember. Yeah, I remember. But the commitment to the run game right now shows me that they're just in a different place. He's in a different place. I think it helps to have the big guys inside. The patience knowing you like your chances on third and medium. That's what defined the game for me, okay?

Starting point is 01:09:31 That is what defined the game for me. They averaged third and four on the day. They racked up 185 yards rushing, but none of it was spectacular between the tackles. I mean, it was just an attrition thing. And it was just a willingness to go two yards, three yards, and know that if you get in third and five, we like our matchups. We like the way we can scheme things open. When we get into third and eight, third and ten, third and twelve, which I think they had four third downs over third and six on the day. They only converted on one of them.

Starting point is 01:10:01 That was the Noah Gray circus throw. Okay, like we don't want to live like that every third down. I think in the other three plays, you had an image. interception and two pressures. So like when they get in third and long, it's not as much about loving your matchups on third and five as it is about hating the matchups on third and eight, namely the guys up front,

Starting point is 01:10:23 Nick Bosen, those tackles. So I thought that was a huge deal, just staying on it for them. They came out, ran some split zone, kind of like would just stick to the inside run against the two high looks. And then when they went single high, they made them pay on the perimeter.

Starting point is 01:10:40 with jet sweeps, with fast to the flat stuff, which actually turned out to be their version of a couple Super Bowls ago, the speed option, slowing down the defensive ends. You know, last year it was the read option. Whatever it is, they're going to have a wrinkle to slow the rushes down. And more importantly, when you get in those single high looks, they're getting out on the perimeter. When that box gets packed, they're getting out on the perimeter.

Starting point is 01:11:02 And I thought that was great. Two scoring drives in the second half. 13 plays, 79 yards, 643, 8 runs. two well okay hold on let me let me say this a different way two scoring drives in the second half for the chief 13 plays 79 yards 643 eating up another one 12 plays 80 yards 627 eating up that's like 13 minutes that's like 25 plays I think 22 of them 22 20 of them yeah 20 of them 20 of them run plays 20 of them on those two two drives so you see the chiefs are one thing they're very fucking comfortable with who they are

Starting point is 01:11:40 okay and it's another reason i compare them to the uh the patriots of old because the patriots were very comfortable with who they were it was a pay there was the patriot way but if we're going to win games on defense this year damn what we're going to win games on defense if we're going to run the ball we're going to run the ball i don't care who's hurt could be a running back it could be two wide receivers outside we're going to find a way and i think like as brady sits there and he's breaking down this game up in the booth i can't help if he if he's thinking like like they remind me of us back in the day with the the second act guys okay like hardman had a big day yesterday for for for for them uh kareem hunt has been a revelation Nate Nate called that okay

Starting point is 01:12:23 guys coming back into this system and them convert you know at the same time saying I don't need anybody new we just need the guys know the the system we'd rather have guys who are unspectacular and know how to get on my page than taking big swings at guys and so So that's the way they're going. And I think when all things are equal, it comes down to Mahomes. Okay, these two teams are not in their perfect form. And when the game's tight, Mahomes shows you why he's the best of our generation. I mean, and it's not necessarily throwing the ball every game because he misses some throws.

Starting point is 01:12:58 He's missed some throws this year. He missed the shot to Worthy out of the half. That game would have been curtains, okay? But third and six to Kelsey or whatever was, third and eight to Noah Gray, running away from Fred Warner shaking winners on the sideline just ball faking the dude like here's the ball

Starting point is 01:13:15 getting out no I've been waiting for you to bring that up I've such a bone to pick you don't like that that scramble from Mahomes on the sideline you don't you don't think what do you think they make it impossible to hit these quarterbacks these days and Patrick Mahomes with his little his little hip shimmy

Starting point is 01:13:33 you know he's shockingly mobile like my hat off to him like he is a great athlete lead. But like, dude, he's making it look like he's running out of bounds and then shaking a guy for like 15 more yards because the guy's scared to hit the best player in the league on the sideline. So hit him. So hit him. So hit him. Exactly. Packers did it last year. It bothered me so much. I can show you plenty of plays where where people finish my homes on the sideline. You know, there's ways to the, if you're blaming that guy's angle on Patrick Holmes, I mean, his angle was

Starting point is 01:14:06 trash. It was trash. But it was. his trash. And Brady mentioned that like five times. But also like it's just my my grievances with the protections at the quarterback's kid. All right. Like you're just as a defender like you're you can't hit him high in the pocket. You can't hit him low in the pocket. You can't even remotely

Starting point is 01:14:24 attempt to hit him when he's sliding. Was the pocket on the side line. He's kind of creeping out of bounds and then all of a sudden he shakes you for 15 more and you're watching that replay on SportsCenter all week. Just want to blow your brains out. It just is a bad position to be in as a. And I think I'm not saying you're making this point to score points with the chat,

Starting point is 01:14:43 but I think a lot of people in the chat will agree with you. I haven't even looked down because, and I'm seeing the, you know, I just don't want to look because there's a lot of people that hate the chiefs, okay? And I could hate the chiefs. They beat the Eagles in the Super Bowl a couple years ago and I could be a chiefs hater and all that stuff. But I appreciate greatness. And that play is greatness.

Starting point is 01:15:03 Okay. So we could say, hey, you know, it's really hard to tag. Oh, it's hard. you know shove him out of bounds shove him out of bounds you know what I mean put two hands on him taking inside out angled sidelines your friend don't waltz by him and take a seat on the bench

Starting point is 01:15:18 okay so like you can blame that on that but another thing I love about Patrick Mahomes is down there on the one he ran over the guy I mean he tropeet in the air ran over a guy who had been obliterating all his teammates for 48 minutes and I said this last night who needs gas station

Starting point is 01:15:37 pills, man, my testosterone went up watching that shit. Oh. That gave me a little testosterone. But when I said, testosterone. But when I said, I got a chub watching the Steelers' defense, what's the difference? A big difference. Testosterone doesn't give you boners. Yeah, it does. Oh, it does?

Starting point is 01:15:52 No, we're allowed to talk about boners. Jerry, I just think you're wrong. I think you're fishing. You think you got a gotcha moment, but you're equating, receiving a testosterone jolt from watching Patrick Mahomes, an American quarterback. What do you think people take those gas station testosterone jolt pill for? How do you know so well?

Starting point is 01:16:12 What, to go to the gym? How do you know so well? To go to the gym? How do you know so well? I'm just saying, bro. I'm just wondering. What do you think they're there for? I think there are boner pills at the gas station, but I think there's also low quality testosterone boost type pills.

Starting point is 01:16:26 We'll make that the, if you're the loser of our fantasy football team, you got to go to the gas station every day and take one of those gas station. No chance because I'm already. Oh, and seven tax? might lose dude i'm i haven't set my line up in weeks but the point is we should be appreciating this guy's greatness if you don't want to hey you're missing out because this guy is he's a stud and the way he finished that game the way they ran the football um the leadership on this team you know like the defense spags getting guys ready the nazi johnson guy can you pull this up can you pull up the all 22 can we pull this off during the show i just wanted to show you something i think

Starting point is 01:17:06 the defense played really, really well. We'll talk about what San Francisco didn't do. But I just think Spaggs is one of those guys who gets, gets guys ready to play in the back end. And no matter who- Tom kind of gave Spags his flowers last night, too. Even though he called him Spacknulo the whole game. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:17:24 Yeah. But he did say he's like, he was my kryptonite, like, blah, blah, blah. I feel like you don't hear that kind of shit from Tom that much. Bro had two picks. Well, I mean, come on, bro. I mean, who, jaw soul again, I don't hate the chiefs. I just hate how inconsistent folks are when it comes to talking about QB play. Bro had two picks with no passing TDs, but when others do that, the narrative changes.

Starting point is 01:17:47 Well, what we're dealing with here is something called, I can't think of the word, but it's, it's, you build up enough equity. You build up enough equity as the best player of your generation. People are going to give you a little bit more leeway for not playing a perfect game. And the guy on the other side line through three picks. So Joss Sol, I would ask you who's a better quarterback. Here's the point. Who are you drafting first? That usually shuts the conversation down real simply.

Starting point is 01:18:14 We're going to talk about the lions in a second. Somebody's going to call me a golf hater because I'm going to say he should be in the MVP race, but I don't necessarily think he's the MVP. And people are going to tell me I'm a hater. And then I'm going to ask them, who would you draft first? And I know it's not what the MVP race is, so don't get me all fucked up here. But the point is when people are, what's the, what's the, what's the, gripe with Mahomes. You want somebody else? I mean, nobody else is making that play. Maybe

Starting point is 01:18:39 Josh Allen, QB2 on the planet. Okay. So I look at this thing and I just say like, listen, in a ball game like this, and Worthy fell down on one of the picks too. Okay, not to cape for the guy, but also we had somebody fall down on two-point conversion lane. That was a big deal. Footing. You got to get your footing right. Who are you drafting first out of quarterbacks, Josh Sol? What do you think I'm talking about? Baseball relievers? Who are you drafting first out of all the NFL quarterbacks. If you're going to tell me you're taking somebody over Mahomes

Starting point is 01:19:11 and his name is not Josh Allen, I don't know. You're going to tell me it's Lamar. You're going to tell me somebody else. I'm sorry, but the playoffs, you build up equity. And when you win championships, you build up equity. Mahomes record just beats for itself. That's from Daniel Son. Sometimes it's not as complicated

Starting point is 01:19:28 as you try to make it. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes you just, the simple take is the best take. And shout out to Andy Reed because Andy Reed. Do we have that red zone pulled up? Yeah, let's look at it. Okay, now the play before this play, okay, it's

Starting point is 01:19:44 2112 here with with 11 to go. Okay, so the Niners, the Niners get in the red zone because they take advantage of a corner being down. They go at Nazi Jones, right? Nazi Johnson. So they take a shot at Nazi Johnson, they get down there. Nazi Johnson

Starting point is 01:20:00 could be burying his head in the sand. I mean, most people are like, okay, we gave him some points. The very next play, this is him making a play that people don't notice this play. But in the red zone, the guy that gets the ball carrier down in a situation is often the guy who you can attribute to points coming off the board. I mean, Jordan Mason, full head of steam here, coming off tackle here, and there's a vice tackle between him and Justin Reed. But if Johnson doesn't come in and make this tackle, shoot his gun, make the tackle, which is what, it's a simple thing. But if you miss this tackle, that's six, right? I mean, I think Justin Reed might be able to come off and make this play, but I don't think so.

Starting point is 01:20:38 So you're in the right place. You make the tackle. You just got burnt. Okay, we line up and play second down. And on second down, you can hit down, hit down, read, or next play. Second down, you get Nick Bolton. Nick Bolton knifeing in to make a play. Watch this fucking effort from Nick Bolton.

Starting point is 01:20:53 Go to the end zone view if you could for people watching a live show. If you got audio, you got to check out YouTube. Nick Bolton making a play. Linebacker play was awesome yesterday for the Niners. or for the chiefs. It was awesome. Early in the game, they had to be in base a lot.

Starting point is 01:21:10 Those guys were kicking their ass. Channal, Tranquoise. Three and Iers couldn't really run the ball. They couldn't run the ball into base, okay? And that's one of the problems when you don't have a lot of wide receivers outside, not necessarily in this situation,

Starting point is 01:21:19 the red zone, but out in the field. When you don't have a lot of wide receivers you can trust, you've got to be in more big personnel groupings. And they matched those personnel groupings with base and kicked their fucking ass. Nick Bolton played a great game. So now what do we have? We have third down.

Starting point is 01:21:33 okay and we got a guy named george carloftus who's not a perfect edge rusher but he's a really smart player and this is him spinning back in in the red zone knowing you can't get too high in the red zone knowing you got to come underneath at eight nine yards knowing that this was the time to make a move and force a pick and i don't know where brock purdy's going to throw this ball maybe he throws a pick anyway maybe he throws out of the back of the end zone but that's three points at least and that ends up being seven if you think about them you know scoring a touchdown it could be a four point play you know this nazi johnson guy making a play after he got toasted gets down the red zone makes a play knocks the ball down we see this all the damn time all the time i feel like it happened with brees

Starting point is 01:22:17 hall uh last week in the game against the bills he gets out there on the left sideline i can't remember who hunted him down whether it was taren johnson or actually i think we gave him his love i think it was taylor rap that's a tackle that's worth points i think they ended up up missing the field goal. I might be misremembering, but the whole thing is Spags gets guys ready to play. I don't care if they just came in the game late. I don't care if you got beat. It's the mental toughness that he instills in this defense. And it doesn't hurt to have backers like he has. And honestly, losing Legerious need, losing Willie Gay, losing these pieces. You still got Chris Jones. You still got this front. You got guys that can move around like chest pieces. You got Justin

Starting point is 01:22:57 Reed. You got McDuffie. But I did not know this defense would look as good. And the way they have shouldered the responsibility for this chief's team has been really impressive this year. Chris, you're talking about getting getting ready to play. I got to give a guy a shout out, not for the chiefs, for the Niners. Imagine being a highly drafted rookie, okay? You're much anticipated rookie season and you get shot in the fucking chest. Okay?

Starting point is 01:23:23 Through the chest out of your chest. Out the back of your chest. And now you are finally in your rookie season debut. Three catches for 21 yards for, you know, Ricky Parasel. Might not seem like much, but like, no, it's huge. Kudos to you, man. Like, good for you. That's crazy.

Starting point is 01:23:41 You got shot. And now you're, you know, playing the Chiefs, getting some catches, getting your feet wet a little bit. Like, good for you, man. By the way. You want to give that guy some love. If I'm waking up today, if I was Mike Williams, I'll be telling my agent, I'll rather spend my winter in San Francisco than New York. No question.

Starting point is 01:24:01 There's going to be a couple teams looking at my point. There's been a couple of team. And Kansas City would be one. But, like, again, they seem kind of like comfortable to stand pat. And if they don't stand Pat, I'm going to be real interested to see who it is they bring in. But I think more than anything, like we're talking about the chiefs bringing people in, it might be the Niners who have to bring somebody in. Because now Iuke, and you said this right as he blew his knee out possibly yesterday. You were like, he was proved right.

Starting point is 01:24:27 Yeah. You know, that's why you hold out. This is why players hold out. and for all the fans and and if you're really a fan of players and the team and you wonder why guys oh these guys are so selfish because you're getting paid so much money to drafting golf over Josh Allen to do all this you're so you're so selfish for holding out for money but this is the reason why like everything doesn't have a happy ending for players everything doesn't have a happy ending for organizations, but just in NFL in general, this is why you fight for your money,

Starting point is 01:25:03 because who knows if we'll see IUC again, who knows if we'll see the same IUC again, but it's something where, thank God he did fight and get the money he got because might be the last time we see him play. Might be the last time we see him play for a little bit, and, you know, like the timing of it would have been really tough had he reported a camp and going out and blown his knee out. But like that's the reality. And people would say, hey, tough. Like, guys do it all the time.

Starting point is 01:25:27 Well, he took matters in his own hands. And kudos to the agent. I don't know who the agent is. Now, I also look at this and say, like, who the fuck mainly are you going to be throwing to now? Pierceall, it's good to have him back. But, like, he's got to be a hell of a player. And they didn't have Debo yesterday because of some illness. So that's a really tough deal when you go out there and you got to throw,

Starting point is 01:25:49 you got to throw to a bunch of guys that when you played the Super Bowl last year at the Niners, you couldn't get guys open against man coverage. So you're coming at this game down Chris McAvery. One of the reasons I took the Chiefs was because I feel like all things being the same, you're down your best man separator and your best player offensively. And Kansas City has seemed like they have stuck the landing on losing their pieces that they lost on defense. So, you know, when Debo's down and you got to go. The good news for the Niners is they're playing Dallas next week,

Starting point is 01:26:19 so they're going to run for 350 yards. They don't even need to throw the ball. I would hope so, but the point is, at some point this season, you're going to have to be able to throw the ball to win. And this passing offense does not look the same, okay? Like, it just doesn't. It looks pedestrian. It looks like a little bit constipated to use the verbiage of Elaine Johnson used talking about Philly a week ago. And I know it'll get better when Devo's back.

Starting point is 01:26:42 But still, and that's a great defense they were playing. But the record is the record right now for the Niners. And they are in a bit of a hole. And, you know, they might have to make a move. You know, I think like just having to go to Bell in a situation where they're not on the same page, you're going to a rookie that you wouldn't usually be going to, you get picked. Like those situations come up a lot when you got to go to guys that you can't trust or you don't trust yet. And, you know, they had miscues early in the game, penalties, red zone stuff.

Starting point is 01:27:14 So, I mean, really got my head spinning now because now all I'm thinking about is Devante Adams leaving New York already. It's like this year going to a new team And just how big of a story And how great that was going to be He's not leaving, dude He already moved in with Aaron Rogers, man The roommates and everything Bro, that's one argument away from

Starting point is 01:27:33 I'm out of here I mean, you know People in the chat are gonna be pissed But I gotta take another leak man Oh So you guys want You guys want to talk about that Detroit game And then I'll come in and give you my two cents

Starting point is 01:27:44 Like give me your take You know, hey Pop Quiz Hot Shot me you remember speed yeah nfc north is hot and sexy and i like watching the the nfc north man even with your boys even with your minnesota boys going down i mean hey i'm a fan of good football facts and i think that was the best game like i i want to know what you personally thought of that first uh fake punt from dangt camp i mean it's it's cajones but honestly what it is is showing your defense that you respect them and you kind of you trust them even though in

Starting point is 01:28:24 that situation it didn't work i mean they turned around and gave up a touchdown and how close this game was luckily that didn't bite you in the ass but it's something we've seen all the time you can't sit down at a blackjack table and see a guy when it's when it's a 17 sometime hit or hit on a 17 every single time and then get mad if another 17 comes out and you think he's not going to hit because of whatever reason. Are you saying you like the fake punch? I kind of like it. It's not that it's not liking it or not. It's just that I'm not surprised by it because Dan Campbell, like that's what he does. Yeah. It's not like I, it's not like I, when the Green River Killer did his like eighth victim. It's not that I don't like it. I just wasn't surprised by it. Like,

Starting point is 01:29:11 not everything that doesn't surprise you is okay. Ah, like they won the game. Well, I understand they won the game. Yeah. But, and this breakdowns like it, because you know I love Dan. Yeah. I love, but, but foundational, if you fake something, you do it based on the element of surprise. There is a, there's a, but hold on.

Starting point is 01:29:35 Can I, can I finish? Okay. I just took a piss. Okay, okay, okay. The, the inflation effect of faking everything. under the sun after a while there's less of an element of surprise now you get that back in maybe teams on special teams being focused on the fake yeah and you getting hidden yardage on the return team or whatever it is but but that thing didn't shock anybody your point and do we and this is this is

Starting point is 01:30:03 playing devil's advocate is there any i don't even know why we need to play devil's advocate is there any chance that those players on punt they have an automatic fake read that they're maybe getting No, I mean, a lot of times there is an automatic. But not on the first punt. What if the teams know that, what if the teams know that and bait them? That's a call play. No, there's not, there's not, there's no kill on special teams. You don't kill a punt to run a fake.

Starting point is 01:30:31 You do get permission sometimes. The upback does. The upback can get permission, but not in that situation. Not to run that option. Not that play. Not that play. No, and. I got you.

Starting point is 01:30:44 I was just going to say, like, moving on from this pun situation, we were kind of talking about what stood out from this game. I think the biggest thing to me that I kind of really liked from the Lions defensively, at least, it's like, okay, obviously a heartbreaking situation with your best defensive player, Aidan Hutchinson fucking murdered his leg, okay? How do you replace that kind of production? I love how they came out and just blitz the hell out of the Vikings. I thought that was awesome.

Starting point is 01:31:09 I feel like that was a completely different game plan. 20 or 35, I think. Yeah. I got to look up the exact list numbers, but like they were bringing so much pressure and different pressure looks than they'd done previously this year. And I thought that was really cool. It's like they obviously understand that they're missing a key playmaker on defense and they're trying to make up that production schematically.

Starting point is 01:31:28 And I think that's a really cool thing. It's just to me it's a testament of like their coaching staff, understanding what their team is and how they get the most out of their guys who they have available. And that's just good football. So I thought that was really cool. I mean, with their coordinators and their coaching and, in Detroit is like as a former player you kind of watch that I don't know if you felt this way

Starting point is 01:31:49 but it's like and I would like that'd be a fun locker room to be a part of no question I'm sure that they play hard they practice hard they seem close they're winning you know what I mean and it's like it just feels like they are putting their players in positions to win and like that's really all you want as a player well you want confidence I think like right down to the quarterback you think about Jared Goff who there was a time where I was arguing with people the other way now I'm arguing with you people that tell me he's like better than Josh Allen in the chat I I fucking love Jared golf dude the fact that he's doing what he's doing right now is everything that football is about it's about getting up off your ass when somebody counted you out and you know when McVe

Starting point is 01:32:32 said he's not good enough for me he goes to Detroit and makes makes uh you know I can remember when he played the Rams the first damn time. Okay, and people were like, oh, they might have something with this bridge. Well, no, he proved that he's a franchise quarterback twice. You know, most people get to the Super Bowl. You don't have to prove it again. He's a franchise quarterback.

Starting point is 01:32:51 And he's the type of guy that, you know, whether you're like me and you think he's fringe, he's in the bottom half of the top 10, or you think he's the best quarterback in the league, like some of you folks in here. We shouldn't argue. I think we're on the same side. He's enough for Detroit to win.

Starting point is 01:33:06 That's why I put them in the damn Super Bowl. and the way he's played the last couple weeks, when the play action is humming, when you play Minnesota, and coming in is one of the things we said, over the middle of the field, there's chunk yardage to be had. This guy ate him alive over the middle of the field

Starting point is 01:33:22 in key situations. I mean, there's nobody, I'll give him this. You're just talking about with how Flores runs his defense? Well, yeah, with the way the backers conduct themselves in past game when they're sitting in zones and the way they can get manipulated and play action, and the way they leave the middle of the field open sometimes

Starting point is 01:33:40 with some of the pressures that they run, I thought that Jared Goff is the perfect guy to exploit that. I mean, and when you watch him kind of fire some of these balls over the middle of the field late in the game, there might be nobody better at throwing the ball at the intermediate level over the middle of the field. And in that right, he is truly elite. Because if you can access that part of the field,

Starting point is 01:34:04 you see so many teams having trouble doing that. I thought this was just a great performance by him, but a really good job by the whole team. We said coming in, who's going to have the lead? Like, that's going to define this game, right? Let's find out.

Starting point is 01:34:20 Dan Campbell's saying, let's find out what happens when they're down. And you find yourselves five minutes in the game down 10 in one of the toughest place to play in America against an undefeated team because you're faked upon. Okay. And a division opponent too. And pressure was getting there early.

Starting point is 01:34:36 Like the first two second play of the game I think there's a hold They bring heat I think a third and three They get Grinard on a hold Like they're punting the ball They're fucking up a fake punt

Starting point is 01:34:48 Like that is so hard In the NFL to dig a hole like that On the road And be able to To claw your way out of it Listen you guys will tell me I'm a hater I'm a big fan of the kid

Starting point is 01:34:59 The guy, he's a guy now You know he's not a kid anymore I remember when he was a rookie But like he fits his team perfect he fits what they do perfect and that's why I have no problem if you want to say he needs to be in the MVP race no problem if you want me to say he's the best quarterback in the league you're not going to get that out of me you should probably stop watching the show if that's what you need to be happy you should stop watching the show but I will tell you he's perfect for this fucking team and he's

Starting point is 01:35:24 playing great ball he's playing as well as anybody in the league right now and uh you know when they get the play action going like I said there's there's not very many people who are better at turning their back to the defense. Coming around, accessing the middle field, working up in the pocket. He did that a couple times. Edge pressure,

Starting point is 01:35:44 little shimmy up into the pocket, deliver. I thought he was great, but the whole thing is like, when you're down, that's not the game script that Dan Campbell imagine. All they did was

Starting point is 01:35:54 370-yard touchdown drives. Like, that is insane. Detroit lines in the second quarter being able to do that. And Minnesota helped him because I thought, thought Arnold got a little nosy on the Aaron Jones touchdown, which by the way, right after the fake punt, that's like most teams, they lose that game. You go on the road, you fake a punt, backed up, Aaron Jones, right into the end zone, like, fuck, we're cooked, not the lions. They get that toughness about them. They go out in the second quarter and they put those drives together. By the way, another one of the touchdowns in the second, Amunrah, St. Brown, that's a bust. So if you're Minnesota, you're walking out of this thing saying, hey, we gave them two touchdowns, right? And that's how they're going to, to look at this game is they're going to say, hey, guys, like, we're good enough to beat this team

Starting point is 01:36:38 because we blew a couple plays on defense that we gave it to them in one play. But I don't agree necessarily. I agree they're good enough to beat him, but I actually would tend to side with Dan Campbell and what I imagine he's saying in the locker room right now. But the point is, you come out of this game and you give one of them on, one touchdown on a short field and one on a Dave Montgomery fumble. Like, like, I have a longer list of things that they didn't do perfect, but those two things, like you allow how many points in this game to the undefeated Vikings 29 points in the game 14 of them you can give them right back you know we we spotted them 10 points we still found a way to win we they came out in the second quarter and had 3 70 yard touchdown drives the third one cap by

Starting point is 01:37:18 a third and seven where jimere gibbs who's not a fucking big guy runs over stepan gilmore in the end zone he's running he runs so hard they both run so hard that everyone on that team plays so hard and that's why I'm curious like I think you've talked about this before like the Lions hangover effect or like the you know the opponent that they play like how they fare the next week I haven't heard that. He's have a short

Starting point is 01:37:44 on a short week bro how are you saying oh god I can't I don't want to interact with the chat on this thing just don't want to do it just not going to do it you guys think what you think I think what I think again like there's anyway it'll be interesting to see the Vikes on a short week after a physical game against the Lions

Starting point is 01:37:59 when they play next Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on. I got one more. I got, fuck it. Move on to the next thing. Who cares? No, but I'm out here. Get going. No, I do you got. I want to hear it. What do you want? What do you want? What are you looking at? We don't know what you're looking at. No, I was just going to get to one more thing, which is the fact that Minnesota comes out of this game. And I didn't think, I don't think Gilmore played that well. Oh. Like Raymond, there was a drive in the third quarter where Raymond was killing him.

Starting point is 01:38:26 Raymond on a third and short, like, dropped him. You had him on a third and nine, too. He beat him there. I thought Raymond also shook, this was a big game for Raymond. He had a quarter there where, I mean, he was beating Gilmore, and then he shook Murphy. And, you know, I'm not saying it. But, you know, that's probably a touchdown if it's on target. So, like, he really played well. So having him kind of, I mean, he's always made plays for them,

Starting point is 01:38:52 but this was one of his better games of the season has to be. And Gilmore on the other side, like not a banner day for him. I want to give you the golf under pressure stats, 10 for 11 for 162 and two touchdowns. Gruden's going to have a fucking freak out this week. Nicy. I know there's no such thing. 11.6 yards per attempt under pressure.

Starting point is 01:39:12 A perfect 11 of 11 between the numbers. That's it. In the middle of the field, he kills people. And Minnesota's got to get that short up because as good as they've been, they're going to see these guys again. The minute they got the run game going, it was like, all right, we're going to now,

Starting point is 01:39:27 we're going to pick you apart in the middle of field. So even though Minnesota lost this game, and there's no such thing really, like, in sports, as a good loss. Right. But is this a good loss for them at this time? No, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, the point I wanted to make was, like,

Starting point is 01:39:45 they're walking out of this thing, and, you know, there's two ways of thinking about it. The Lions could be thinking about it, like, hey, we spotted them 14 points. 14 points. But Minnesota comes out of the game, and I thought we don't have, okay, if we're Minnesota, first off,

Starting point is 01:39:57 KOC didn't call his best game. Mm-hmm. You know, Justin Jefferson's got a touch the ball 15 times. Look at how close this game was. Look at it in the middle of your screen, if you're on YouTube, how damn close this game was. And like in every way, this is, these are two great teams. There's not one pretender, one contender here. They're two contenders.

Starting point is 01:40:17 Yep. And, you know, I think you come out of this game, Minnesota is like, okay, we don't have Hawkinson. I would have thought they would have liked to get Detroit heavy a little bit more on defense, like get the three linebackers in the game, get them in base a little bit more. you don't have as much versatility without Hawkinson where you can do that and then throw out of it and get the matchups you want. I thought, I thought, you know, like Darnold played pretty well. I don't think you come out of this game and say Darnold played poorly.

Starting point is 01:40:43 He played better than he played in London. So, like, if you see him again, I think maybe you'll let him rip a little bit more. Like I said, Jefferson touching the ball eight times, four of them on one possession out of the third quarter, which, by the way, you scored on. That's got to be better. and you'll get hockinson back and uh i think just overall like you come into this game and you're thinking we're pretty good we lost to a damn good team you know we blew a lead we jumped them we blew a lead it's no big deal they'll be back um and you know darnal did throw the pick brian branch is like hall of fame talented yeah okay that's an amazing play um but he did have somebody

Starting point is 01:41:22 in the flat it's second down and then he probably wants the third and four late in the game back where you could ice this thing and you go to Jefferson and you're too high. So, I mean, they missed the two-point conversion. That was big. We're parsing this thing. These two teams are going to play again once, maybe twice. Yep. You know, and they're two of the best teams in the NFC.

Starting point is 01:41:41 I just happen to think Detroit's the best team in the NFC. And that's what I thought coming in this season and watching this game. It's amazing how much better Detroit looks the last couple weeks than they did the first couple weeks of the season. And we'll see if that hangover thing continues for Minnesota. I have a question for you, Chris.

Starting point is 01:41:59 I was thinking about this. Vikings is coming off a bye playing Detroit. I almost would rather not have a bye week before playing the Lions. Like, do you think there's, like, I don't know if there's anything there, but it's like, you almost have too much time to sit and rest and wait on this physical, good, talented team. I'd rather just, like, I don't know, not even have, I'd rather have a buy week after. I'd rather have a buy after for sure, if I'm faced with one of those, one of those.

Starting point is 01:42:26 two choices. They're really good. They're really good. And they're really physical. They're like a fucking machine, dude. Also, a couple hidden heroes in this game. Amig Robertson. Robinson, Robertson, Robinson. I had it right the first time for once. They had him on Jefferson a lot. And he did a pretty good job. There was a third and seven late in the game where they tried to get Justin open on a pivot route. And he's right there. And that's where Donald's looking. I thought he did a great job. Also, Jack Campbell, Stud, Alie McNeil Stud, did a great job.

Starting point is 01:43:02 Brian Branch, stud. There's plenty of guys on this team that don't get all the credit because you are looking at golf who had justifiably the gaudy numbers when he's on. Wow. And so I just,

Starting point is 01:43:16 hats off to the lines, man. What's next? Green Bay Houston. The other NFC North game. Oh, man. Green Bay is good, guys. Green Bay is really good. Yeah, they are.

Starting point is 01:43:30 Green Bay is really good. And I've got a backup quarterback would make them even better. Well, it definitely affects their floor. Yeah. In a good way. No, in a great way. You think about a team that could be playing

Starting point is 01:43:41 for home games in the playoffs or, you know, if they want to win this division, like it could come down to, hey, Jordan Love could get ding one of these weeks. I mean, Detroit's got Hendon Hooker, but they got Malik Willis. It's hard to think about themes. Like, you kind of have to think about that.

Starting point is 01:43:55 Like, it's something to think about guys getting hurt. but it's a long season and it's freaking physical. Like, and all it takes is one hit for a guy needing, especially right now in the season, needing a couple of games off or something like that. But to see Jordan Love, like have to do that already early in the season and then bounce back and come back looking the way he is, getting back to it.

Starting point is 01:44:20 No question. It's a great sign. No question. I think people in chat are already asking. and what happened to CJ Stroud. I don't think anything happened to him. Texans are banged up. Texans.

Starting point is 01:44:31 They're banged up, man. Well, he doesn't have, he doesn't have Nico Collins, who's like his security blanket. It's a tough rogue game. End up being a good game. I think the Texans O-line is not the best. Like, still a good game and not a bad showing from the Texans overall. They lost my two points, you know? You know what I'm doing?

Starting point is 01:44:48 I think it's bad. Huh? You know what I'm doing everything? What is it? What is it? What? I'm sending your best instigator before the game. to get into Stefan Diggs head.

Starting point is 01:44:57 Stefan Diggs was not mentally there for this entire game because he was trying to fight or do whatever he was with Alexander and all these other guys. And I personally think that affected the game because I think Stefan Diggs, this is a game where he should have numbers. He should have numbers. He should be doing well.

Starting point is 01:45:19 And I just think that Green Bay did a good job maybe throwing him, taking him out of the game mentally. I love that quote from him, though. Yeah. Quote from Diggs. I don't. If I'm his teammate, I don't. I'm never going to be the bigger person.

Starting point is 01:45:35 Oh, Nate, that's fucking you, dude. Not after a law. That's me for sure. That's me for sure. I'm okay. I like this quote. Even after a loss? Yeah, I don't mind him saying I'm never going to be a bigger person.

Starting point is 01:45:45 Did you see his stats? Yeah, but Jairer, did you see his stats the last certain amount of times he's played, Jari or Alexander? But I mean, that's the last time, bro. I'm just saying for this game right now. What's the point? The point is that Houston's offensive line gave up four sacks, 11 tackles for a loss, Tankdale's not getting the ball, Bobby Sloics and the crosshairs,

Starting point is 01:46:07 second half out puts this year. You take New England game out of it. 17 points, 3 points, 7.7.7.6 points, 3 points. You got a top 5 quarterback, in my opinion. He's fringe top 5, okay? when you see him make the throws, when he's actually got people open and can make the throws and he's protected,

Starting point is 01:46:27 I think he's incredible. There's going to be people that couldn't wait to say he's not very good or whatever it is. Watch the games. Okay, he's under siege on third down. At one point in the third quarter, I don't think they had converted a passing third down. I think that was the case at some point in third quarter. And not to mention,

Starting point is 01:46:45 I don't think any of the receivers got heavy work yesterday because they didn't even have time to get the, work and I want to give Green Bay credit because it's that defense is Jeff Halfley on third down and there were times in this game where I didn't know who was coming you know he had blitz packages that were were surgical yeah yeah and and the four-man rush is a lot to deal with there you know so I think what happened is and what's happening to this team is Bobby Slowick some of the shine is coming off right it's been a year and a half and I think there's a lot of new pieces that they've

Starting point is 01:47:21 had to recycle and figure out they're down Nico Collins they just got Joe Mixing back who imagine if they didn't have Joe Mixing in that game yesterday they would have fucking got run out of the building man okay or if their line was just slightly better or if their offensive line was better and and also it's not just like they're bad players I'm not saying they're a bad unit but what I am saying is they're having trouble sorting games and blitz protections some things in the NFL come down to preparation and the coordinator sometimes yeah you know I think it's really hard for people to understand that until sometimes things get fixed and I'm not saying something needs to get fixed. I'm saying internally something needs to get fixed. They need to figure out who they are a little

Starting point is 01:47:57 bit. And I think having Joe Mixing back for a period of time now, hopefully for more than two weeks at a time in a new offense, this will give them the ability to get their legs under them a little bit. But the stuff on third down has got to change. The stuff in the second half has to change because if it weren't for love throwing two picks in the first half, if it weren't for Green Bay giving up a return uh you know muffing a punt like i don't know that they're in this game at all and so you know like stroud frustrated all day lots of pressure on him i remember we went to the sideline and he's cuss he's not cussing but he's like getting his guys going and everybody's like okay they're gonna go they just went back out and handed it to mixon you know what i mean like he got the offensive

Starting point is 01:48:40 line fired up and then mixon moved the ball up and on the field he just doesn't have the time where's the quick the quick game from this offense what is it he just doesn't have the quick game there's no there's no quick options for him that i'm like all right this offense is just like it's it's surgical when you bring pressure they know where to go with it and we it's it's a common theme in the nfl be like hey it just feels like sometimes the spacing is fucked up or the the routes are a little bit too ambitious for the down and distance or whatever it is but they need to figure out a way to not get this guy killed because yeah he's he is under siege right now. Yeah, and it's a copycat league, right? So like everything that's working against

Starting point is 01:49:23 CJ right now, like you saw in the Minnesota game, you saw it this week, I thought Jeff Hathley called a hell of a game. You know, this system, this like four down, three deep systems, you see the Colts, the Jets, the Niners, those kinds of teams running this. You don't usually think of the disguises as a feature of that system, and he did an awesome job adding those wrinkles. It looked kind of like Minnesota at times, some of those third downs. Yeah. You're talking about where they're you know, showing 7, 8 on the line of scrimmage and then rotating into Tampa, too. So, I don't know. I wonder if it's like, in a sense, some like regression to the mean a little bit with the

Starting point is 01:49:59 Texans, with how well they played last year with both Bobby Sloick and CJ. Everybody has a year's worth of tape on you. So, yeah, they just, they have some things I've got to figure out. Okay, but if you're a Texans fan and you're looking ahead, the Texans are going to be fine, man. Look at the AFC South. It's dog. They'll be fine.

Starting point is 01:50:17 right? They're going to be in the playoffs. They're banged up right now. They're missing. Wasn't Nico Collins still like the reception leader in the NFL up until like a week ago or something like that? An absolute security blanket for Stroud, who is a very good young player, like once they get some of their guys back, and they're also missing like six key guys defensively too. Yeah. So like if they get healthier over the course of the season, continue to just play pretty well and get healthy. to win the AFC South by a wide margin and they're hopefully going to be rolling by the time it's a playoffs like I think they're going to be fine it wasn't their best showing yesterday against

Starting point is 01:50:55 a good Packers team but like they're in a good spot still yeah defensive stuff hurts them I mean you saw it last week in the second half against the Patriots I mean like Drake Mays 's lighting them up and I'm not saying it's a bad thing because I think kids are going to be pretty good but you know it's his first damn start and you're kind of letting them off the hook because there's some some personnel issues but I think the thing we can't go the whole game without mention. And we we've definitely, this has been a Houston centric breakdown for sure. But I think the coaching, the coaching from D'Amico early and late, like, I thought the no-challenged flag is the difference in the game on the lateral. Like, we could be talking about all this stuff,

Starting point is 01:51:39 to your point, Bo and, you know, Nate, but like, the problem is if you don't throw that challenge, flag the very next play they go to wicks for a touchdown and that's a that's a backwards pass yeah and so you miss the challenge and at the end of the game i thought that the clock management and kind of like then he took a time out at the end of the game right well i didn't like i didn't like getting down there and just kind of sitting on your hands and saying oh we're going to kick a field goal because you know in that game nine times out of ten it ends on a field goal try and i don't care if you if you you you bleed the clock down to one 30 it's too much time in the end up and the end up you NFL. It's too much time.

Starting point is 01:52:19 Especially for a team that leads the league in explosives. Right? So, you know, it's just one of those things where fuck. I thought they could have been a little bit more aggressive down there in the red zone at the end, try to get a touchdown. Felt like they just kind of

Starting point is 01:52:34 especially, I mean, it's a tough situation because you can't protect. Nothing. You can't get third down along. They were short of the sticks on the last third down of the game. Yeah. So tough, tough. like coaching decisions. I also not sure what happened at the end

Starting point is 01:52:50 where Romeo hit the ground and the clock ran. They lost like six seconds. I don't know if they would have called a time out there, if they would have liked to have called a time out there to maybe get one more play as a return team. I can't remember how many timeouts Green Bay had at the time. I think maybe Green Bay just had one.

Starting point is 01:53:08 And who knows? Green Bay probably would have backed up and took a knee and then kicked the ball. But I thought... Green Bay did have one. Houston had three. I think it probably ended up. seconds. It probably ended up being consequential, but, you know, I look at the beginning of the game,

Starting point is 01:53:22 not throwing the challenge flag, and then the end of the game, you know, just sitting on your hands. Yeah. Coach is in the booth, man. I feel like you got to blame that on them. The head coach, you're at, especially a situation like that, you're at eye level and you cannot really tell from the field if that ball is going backwards or not. No, you need somebody in the booth to get to you and maybe he didn't get it on time. And it's just like, my thing, is I don't understand not getting it on time. Like just being able to be like, hey, you got to make an executive decision up there and be like, you know what, throw it, throw it, throw it, throw it.

Starting point is 01:53:58 Even if you're halfway sure, it's just one of those things. It's just like, what are you saving those timeouts in the first half for? Don't know. Like, what are you saving them for? Like, because that's the worst thing that's going to happen. You're going to get a time. You're going to have to use a timeout. But, yeah, it just sucks to think that that could have changed.

Starting point is 01:54:16 And, you know, like there's little things like the tank dell drop, basically a drop in the end zone early in the game. Well, they just came up empty, you know, down there. And, you know, a trip like that when it's tough sled and you got to make the most of that trip. And so, like, you know, you look later in the game, be really nice to have those four points. You know what I'm saying? So the whole game, you come away from this. I don't think if you're a Texans fan, all is lost. You lost to a damn good team.

Starting point is 01:54:42 It's like the Vikings. You lost to a Super Bowl contending team. on the road where I think the fucking Packers are going to be hell to deal with as the year goes on. They got to be one of the best teams. I mean, right now I would put, it's funny, the NFC North is basically on top of the, the NFC. So why does Vegas still have the Niners is the second best Super Bowl odds out of NFC teams? They must think Chris McCaffrey's coming back, you know, but I think that's bullshit. Me too.

Starting point is 01:55:11 Not that he's coming back, but I don't know they're good enough when he comes back. Yeah, you still get the Packers at plus 1,400. if you really like them. The whole NFC North, I mean, it's really interesting to me. If the Packers get a cold, snowy, winter, it's over for anyone that has to play them there.

Starting point is 01:55:33 Like, when it starts getting, when it starts getting cold. Yeah. Because they're built, they are built. They are a team. Like, it would be cool if Detroit played outside because it would be the same thing for them. It would be cool.

Starting point is 01:55:44 But they're built, They're built for a team to go in there. I'm not going there. To go in there and honestly, like just try to beat you down and beat you down. And when it gets cold, we're going to see how these deliming and these linebackers and these safeties and these corners fill gaps and how you tackle and how different it is for the end of the season when your body's not feeling the best it is after training camp and all that. No question. And I'm always interested to see how. different things start happening and how Russian yards go up.

Starting point is 01:56:19 Well, Josh Jacobs. Yeah, he's going to love it. It's about his harder runner in the NFL as there is. And who wants to tackle him in the cold? Scored his first touchdown in Lambo yesterday. That was crazy. That's him. He would have thought we got our Lambo leap before he did.

Starting point is 01:56:33 Yep. So. What about mixing? Yeah, in the Lambo league. Yeah, well, so that's funny because like that did, I told you guys this, it happened to me in L.A. When we played the Rams, uh, Super Bowl, Do you remember that boat?

Starting point is 01:56:47 We beat him at the end of the game. And then a couple of us went over to Lambo Leap or Englewood Leap at the Coliseum. At the Coliseum up to some Eagles fans. And then these Rams fans like reached over where they were like, they were like Eagles fans like right here. And I jumped up to Eagles fans. And the Rams fans reached over and shove me down. And then like and then I kind of like did a gesture and kind of walked off and wave because we won. But I got killed for that.

Starting point is 01:57:15 Like I was trying to jump in there and I hate the Rams and shit. I'm not mad at the guy for pushing Joe Mixing back, like down out of the stands. I'm usually on the side of the players, but I've been through this. And you know what? Hey, you can't expect to jump into an opposing fan basis crowd. I've been there and, you know, I don't blame any. Would it be much worse than Philly. Right.

Starting point is 01:57:36 Hell yeah. I'm upset for the one Houston fan because why you dumb fans ruin my moment. I'm the only Houston fan right here. Mixing saw me and he decides to come and jump. He did ruin the moment, but Mixing needs to jump, like, directly onto that fan. Yeah. And there needs to be more than one. You give him the too small thing?

Starting point is 01:57:55 I think he did give the fan the too small thing, which is true. Yeah, you're too small. I love that. Mixing played his ass off. I think mixing being back is a huge. And also, hidden hero, Evan Williams, making a big play on that two-point conversion for the Greenbackbackers. He's played big ball.

Starting point is 01:58:12 Go, pick, go. We're going to find out. a lot about the Packers here down the stretch, man. They have Detroit twice. They have Minnesota again. They have San Francisco. They're at Seattle. Very tough place to play against a good Seahawks team.

Starting point is 01:58:25 So like they're, they're very good. And Green Bay, they look great. But like, it's going to get real for them here pretty quickly. Hey, what do we think, man?

Starting point is 01:58:35 The birds are back. Are they back? Who? The Eagles. Back from where a flying stuff? Wherever they were last. last week you know i saw that that movie anybody's seen that my great migration movie pretty underrated digital uh cartoon there i did a digital cartoon i don't know i'm saying that right animation have you

Starting point is 01:58:56 seen that anime well no it's not anime it's like a kid's movie it was kind of Pixar adjacent adjacent it's not like a you know you get what i'm saying it's a good fucking movie it's ducks and shit it's a very good plot oh no you know they got to migrate you know who did the screenplay on it Who did it? The guy, Mike White, who did... The quarterback? Nope. Oh, the guy who did Succession?

Starting point is 01:59:18 See, not Succession. What's the... Oh, White Lotus. Yes, White Lotus. Mike White. Mike White. You talk about the guy from School of Rock? Yes, yes.

Starting point is 01:59:28 The roommate in school... That's actually where everyone knows him from. 100%. All right, so Philly, New York, listen, I just want to say eight sacks for the Eagles defensive line. A lot of that's New York. I'm not trying to rate it on the parade, but that's a damn good day, right?

Starting point is 01:59:47 It might be five sacks another day. But like, you know, when they come, they come in bunches. That's what we said. For a guy like Huff, who has not gotten home to get a sack to record five pressures, that's a big day for your defense. I think more than anything, I just want to say, Nick Siriani took it on the chin last week. I think rightfully so. I mean, I don't think, and he acknowledged that.

Starting point is 02:00:10 Like I didn't I want to be different than that He came out there this week had his team ready to play I know they didn't score in the first quarter They still deferred which is the most brilliant thing you can do as an Eagles football team And say we're gonna we'll just take it in the second half But but like early in the game when they were feeling out some of the protection issues So was Daniel Jones it was kind of a stalemate They found a way to get out in front and I think like the sayquan rushes

Starting point is 02:00:37 The first time sayquan hit up former team teammate. I don't know if there's a former teammate or a new guy. But like the very first time he made contact with a giant, I said this yesterday. I used to wonder what it would be like to tackle Stephen Jackson, kind of like horrified. Like seeing him in practice and being like, damn, what if they ever traded him or some shit and I had to tackle him? That would be probably not good. And last night, Sequin got the ball and yesterday. And the first thing he did is run somebody slam the fuck over, fresh off a fine. Dane Belton. Dane Belton. It was there last year. Yep. So, So that's his buddy, presumably.

Starting point is 02:01:12 And Dane had that moment where he was like, oh, I'm the first guy that has to hit Sequin. Like, let's see how much pent up aggression there is in this thing. And there was a lot. He saw those jerseys burning. And he said, I'm going right through y'all. And they were booing him. And he probably didn't think they was going to boo him. And now that guy, he has to see that highlight forever.

Starting point is 02:01:31 Forever, ever, ever. Forever, ever. Hey. I don't know who I think the MVP of the Eagles offensively is. right now. Who? Our boy Stout. Think about how many degrees they've had on the offensive line.

Starting point is 02:01:46 I mean, Jordan Milato went down. Mackay Beckton got injured again. Lane was down for a little bit. I don't know. This one dude, Jason Kelsey retired. Jurgens is playing well. Like, dude, the O-line for the Eagles has been phenomenal and a lot of moving parts there too.

Starting point is 02:02:03 So like, shout out to Stout, man. He's an unbelievable coach. And the birds rushed the ball really well, too. obviously the Sequan, but got to get some love to stout. No questions. And not to take away for what you just said, but on the other hand, I want to say shout out to sexy Dexy, two more sacks, nine total on a team. He's never, ever playing with a lead.

Starting point is 02:02:27 And he has, he's leading the NFL and sacks from the DT position. He's not a D.N. Yeah. He doesn't play the outside. He plays inside and he has nine sacks. He's dealing with us on a tag. every time. Bro, you know how hard that is?

Starting point is 02:02:42 It's insane. On a team that doesn't have leads. That never has leads. That means you're getting sacks on first and second down. He should be a DPOI candidate. I mean, if it keeps going this way, like even if the team loses every single game from here on out, if he gets into the 18 to 20 range, like, what do we do here? You got to give him some, I mean, he should be in the conversation.

Starting point is 02:03:05 I mean, that's what the production says. It's just like we just talked about with golf. he might not have been on the short list coming in the season he should be on the short list from here on out because the guy i mean i don't know if vegas has got to reflect it like or whatever it is but i you know it was also funny sayquan barclay who obviously and this is what i love fans players analysts they always want to be like hey when it's game day you don't fucking talk to the other team it's war between the white lines they might be your best friends everyone's different sayquan got in the end zone and helped Dexter Lawrence up.

Starting point is 02:03:37 I thought that was a really cool moment. Respect. Respect, bro. And you know what? You can call it soft. You can call it whatever you want. But nobody's questioned Sequan Barkley. I mean, nobody's questioning that guy. And the two explosive runs he had, first one, around the left side, got a shout out Cam Juergens. That was an incredible block to spring him. And then the second one, the one that went up the middle, Lane Johnson, cave in that alley a little bit.

Starting point is 02:04:04 So it's the best of both worlds When you get this offensive line humming You turn to a rushing offense Gainwell had a bunch of yards Like go figure Two things got accomplished for the Eagles here You played with a lead And you ran the ball

Starting point is 02:04:18 In doing so So like that's what those guys are begging for You know those guys up front want that They want to play with a lead It wins the last time the Eagles We're in control of a game From start to finish Not start to finish

Starting point is 02:04:30 Because that wouldn't involve the first quarter But from the second quarter to the finish and we're in cruise control. That has not happened in a while. Yeah. I can't remember. I mean, like maybe it's happened one time and I'm forgetting it, but it doesn't happen with regularity.

Starting point is 02:04:44 And then on defense to get home, you know, to blitz a little bit, to mix in some pressure. And then also guys like Jalen Carter to dominate, Huff to get on the board, you know, like eight sacks is a group. Yes, we said part of it is a product in New York, but part of it is also eventually the damn breaks.

Starting point is 02:05:01 Russian coverage go together. The coverage is, improving, the rushers are improving, they're playing with each other, they're figuring out how to rush with each other. Yeah, coverage has been better. The defensive backfield has been nice. Those young players are nice. Whenion Mitchell is good. What that being? So is, Gray-White Hope. He's good. Dejean, yeah. With that being said, with this win, 283, what do you think Vegas is having them as an underdoor to the Bengals next week? Just because of that offense? I mean, that Bengals' offense can be scary.

Starting point is 02:05:34 You know, I the defense has been streaky too. I mean, look at the performance against the Falcons and compared to the performance against the Saints. And then yeah, it's just been like really up and down. Well, it comes down to can you if you can drop back and throw and test this secondary, I do think there's matchups to be had and like, yeah, we're getting excited because Cleveland and now New York. I think Vegas is probably saying, hey, Philly's a little overvalued coming to the spot and Bengals are a little undervalued.

Starting point is 02:06:03 you know and i think that's the way the thing works i mean and so how does the game play out i think two questions i think it's it's how do you cover their guys and then how does what does lou anirumo decide to do against jalen hertz and can jalen hurts play the way he played yesterday which i thought was very good and including that fourth and three which when it happened i love that i was like what are we doing when he dropped his shoulder to take a shot and it hit for the second week in a row I'm eating crow on the couch And that is why The shot is a part of that offense

Starting point is 02:06:37 Now I still think you come out of the gate And you're more conservative To try to get that first couple First downs To get those points in the first quarter We haven't quite found our way Imagine how good this team would be If they played the first quarter offensively

Starting point is 02:06:51 That's a little spin zone here for you You know But I thought like more pistol That's another thing I've been calling for more pistol We got more pistol yesterday Wasn't it like markedly more? Yeah, it was a lot more.

Starting point is 02:07:04 It was a lot more. It was a lot more. You know, so, listen, Calcutera's got to play a big role with Goddard out. If he's out again this week, I don't know what the expectation is for him playing. But he's also got to get his nose dirty and block a little bit. They got linebackers playing fullback a little bit for this team. Like, I need more out of the, you know, the tight ends. Yep.

Starting point is 02:07:28 You know, especially if Goddard's out. Yeah, even just seeing more run. early in the game like we're talking about like they're on the first drive of the game they're dead last and efficiency in the league and on those drives it's almost a 30 70 run pass split yeah and you look at what they do well it's the top five in terms of efficiency top five rushing offense and then more league average right now um passing the ball so it's like stick to what you do well to get yourself going early in the game and and to your point then you're playing with the lead no question the rushers out yeah i just i don't understand that no one because it's like obviously

Starting point is 02:08:00 Kelly Moore, you have a first 15 that you script. Yeah. How has it been so dry? I just, I'm so confused by it. Because I think Nick might be involved in the first 15. Mm-hmm. Like, I'm not, listen, I'm not like, hey, again, I'm not, I said good job, Nick. This was a really good week.

Starting point is 02:08:16 But if he's in that meeting when they're writing up the script, he needs to get out of that meeting. Yeah. And let them do what they're doing. Now, that's a big if. But that to me is like, the first 15 does not look like the rest of it. Right. No. And that's supposed to be your best plays.

Starting point is 02:08:29 And like to both. From earlier, the O line could be, you know, other than Saquine right now, the O line could be the best player on this team. Yeah. Just, you know, you play with your best guys and you could say the logic is, hey, we pass it to run it here. But look around the league. Look at the chiefs. They've kind of reinvented themselves as a running team because that's what they do well right now. Yep.

Starting point is 02:08:49 Yep. No, I mean, listen, I'm not saying they're world beaters, but this was a good win to get under your belt. And like for people saying the Giants are trash, yes, I would generally agree. But what we've also said is they're a tough out. prove that against certain teams and you know like three days ago the line was uh you know giants catching points that's like the sharpest play you know it's the sharpest play of the board you know i heard a couple people say that well then don't say on monday morning that the eagles didn't beat anybody um they they came in they had a good plan for neighbors and they ran the football

Starting point is 02:09:21 and the pass rush got going and that's a divisional game and most divisional games do not look like that so that was a very good start for them i'm not saying they're back like capital B like Super Bowl contender back, but I think they're on the right track. And a lot of that, I got to tip my cap to Nick Siriani. I thought they came out of the buy, even with the mish, looking a little bit sluggish. And then this week I was hoping they'd look angry. And I think them looking sluggish last week led to them looking angry this week, and hopefully next week we're not complacent.

Starting point is 02:09:55 Yep. You know? Saquan has three runs of 50 plus yards this season. the Eagles had six total from 2019 to 2023. It's a good edition. It's a big edition, man. It's a big edition. Are won things for the rest of the show.

Starting point is 02:10:10 These are the final six games here. Seattle, Atlanta. What are your one things that you saw yesterday? I mean, Gino's a fucking dog. Dome Gino, bro. Don Gino. One of the reasons we told me.

Starting point is 02:10:22 Dude, that third and 15 throw to D.K. was so sick. That was sick. Not better than... The one before the half, or the one... Kenneth Walker, throw. Cashed in a...

Starting point is 02:10:34 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cashed in a parlay. Piece of a parlay for me and a little bit of money. That little pocket movement before he let that ball go, like just the footwork, everything. He can look sometimes like a bona fide, you know, elite guy.

Starting point is 02:10:49 He's, you know, he's not that every week. You know, if they played inside every week, I think he would be that guy. Yeah. Yeah, we talked about on the preview show, 102.4 rating over the last few seasons when he's playing inside. He finished with a 99.8 rating in this one, two tuds, no picks, only one sack.

Starting point is 02:11:08 What if he was a saint right now? What if he was a raider? Playing over half his games inside? He could be a perennial MVP candidate. He could be a perennial MVP candidate. Don't tell me he couldn't be an MVP candidate. Seattle's defense. Three takeaway.

Starting point is 02:11:23 Yeah. Yeah. Chill out. Especially down. What? You're not going to relax. Relax, guys. Everybody is relax.

Starting point is 02:11:31 Talk about the defense. Seattle's defense. All right. Well, here's the thing. They're down Rieke Wullen. They were banged up. Yeah, that's a big. The rookie came back,

Starting point is 02:11:41 Byron Murphy. You know, Boye Maffe made a huge play to put this thing out of Reed. And we'll get, I had some Atlanta fans, and I mean this sincerely, no tone. I had like an Atlanta fan or two

Starting point is 02:11:53 on the preview show comment that, you know, we don't spend any time on Atlanta and we're disrespecting in Atlanta. Like the breakdown was Seattle-centric because I think we were on to something here. Seattle was going to at the very least compete in this game. And for a team that was coming off a three-game skid and, you know, the Falcons who have been surging, this is the NFL.

Starting point is 02:12:12 Sometimes it happens this way where it makes no sense. But Seattle comes to Atlanta and beats the pants off these guys. And this thing is a big, big kind of like affirming win for Mike McDonald, affirming win for Gino, affirming win for the Seahawks. knowing that like, hey, maybe what we have is not a fluke. And like maybe we can play good football deep into the season this year because over the last couple weeks, we've been grappling with the fact that they had only beaten the Patriots

Starting point is 02:12:41 and like the Broncos, right? No offense. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. As far as like, how else do I say that? You know? And then they get rolled by the lions and they get rolled by the Niners and you go down to Atlanta,

Starting point is 02:12:53 another team who deserves a lot of credit for what they've done so far this year. but I think the Falcons are good Chris. They are a good team. Even watching the game, I think they're good. They're good team. They couldn't really, I mean, the end of the game was very bad for the Falcons, but like their run game is still good and they have good pieces. Like,

Starting point is 02:13:10 if they can protect the ball and run the ball well, it's going to set everything up for them. I still think that the Falcons could get a wild card spot, and I think that they're going to be dangerous in the NFC South. But they can't rush the pass. You know what? That's the thing that worries me about the Falcons. They can't rush

Starting point is 02:13:26 the pastor. Brady, Jared. But yeah, I mean. You know what worries me? What? The same thing that it is in New York also. Yeah. It's just that Kurt and Aaron Rogers, they came off a major injury.

Starting point is 02:13:41 And it's getting longer into the season. Yes, this recovery and you guys are back so fast. Like, yeah, that looks cool for fans and from the outside looking in. But realistically, like, we don't know, like, how much they have to do even to get ready for practice, for whatever it is to get ready to play on the field. And I just think Aaron Rogers isn't moving the same. And Kirk Cousins are not moving the same. And the more we get into the season,

Starting point is 02:14:06 it's going to, I feel like they're going to slow down a little bit more. I think you might be right. But I think what's really big about this game that we haven't mentioned yet is like, these are two teams that could be buying for a wild card spot. And they just played each other akin to what happened Sunday night with the Jets and the Steelers, like two teams that could be at the very end of the season competing for the same spot and it could come down to a head to head. And so this is a huge deal for Seattle. I think the problem is good. I actually, but no, no, Nate, to your credit, like this was more of a game

Starting point is 02:14:37 than I think kind of the score indicates 3414, but the Seahawks really buried it with that fumble return for a touchdown. And if Kirk is a little more mobile, a little more comfortable outside of the pocket. I think he burns that ball, gets it away. But he's not a fumble. He's not. Exactly. No offense. And that's the problem. And Seattle before the half, to your point, Bo, stealing a touchdown. I mean, there's nothing more aggressive that I saw on Sunday than taking that shot before that. I mean, like, the 31 yard line and they're like, fuck it. All right, we'll go get the touchdown. And then obviously the Maffa sacks. So there's a lot of ways that if you're Atlanta, you could say, hey, we could have been in this game. But I just, I think Atlanta is a good team, but an imperfect team.

Starting point is 02:15:24 And this is what we get into when we talk about teams. Like, are we taking something away unfairly? If I call a team a good team, do I mean they're a contender? I don't mean that about Atlanta. What I mean is they're a good team. Yeah, I don't necessarily think they need Kirk to be super mobile to be successful because I really like their run game. I love their running backs.

Starting point is 02:15:43 If they can just get them going, then they can set up all the play action stuff with Kirk. He doesn't have to, like, escape the pocket. You know what I mean? Yeah. The real problem for me for the Falcons is that their own line has been banged up. I think if they can get their guys healthy, then that kind of solves those. No question. Their run game will thrive and then their play action pass game will build off that.

Starting point is 02:16:02 And maybe that's maybe the AJ Terrell thing. That's just a bad matchup for him because DK ate yesterday. And I don't know what the deal is with DK injury. He got carded off, but he looked like he wasn't concerned. I don't want to read too much in his body language. I'm hoping it's not like something big because they have. absolutely need him. Mike,

Starting point is 02:16:21 he might be a robot. McDonald didn't offer any timeline on his, on his injuries return. And so hopefully we'll see some, some good news. Get that man some candy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get him some candy.

Starting point is 02:16:37 That usually works. What games next? Buffalo beat Tennessee, 34 to 10, 34 straight points. It's a couple times the bills have started slow at home this year. You know, they got, they got jumped out

Starting point is 02:16:50 on by Arizona early in the game 17 to 3. It couldn't get the offense going. And it kind of seemed like the same thing early on. And then the second half, it just was like a wave. I mean, they just rolled him over in the second half. And I think the Coleman thing, having a big day with Cooper, there's no coincidence there. That helps.

Starting point is 02:17:08 And you think about the way this team can attract coverage in the middle of field via Kincaid and that sort of thing, like you're going to have more opportunities outside. So Coleman, hopefully more of the same for him. and I thought it was hilarious, seeing Cooper getting his first touchdown having to look over at Keon Coleman. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:17:24 I thought it was, I thought that was not hilarious. I thought that was awesome. Like, shout out to the, shout out to the rook to help out a vet who just got there. He gave him one of these. But whatever he gave him,

Starting point is 02:17:37 like, but like, think about it, he could have gave him palms up. No, realistically, like, he could have gave him palms up and he didn't

Starting point is 02:17:45 and end up being a touchdown. Can you guys? There have been times. your buddy like dude sometimes you're on the field as a white nose guard you're so tired all my buddies are asking me the fucking play and before every stab and sometimes i'll just turn them in my sense back shut the fuck up so for him just be like see no question you see how some teammates are imagine if keon cold him it's still it's shut the fuck up look come on go back if it would have been you in there ask me for the play every every rap i'd been like look what does he

Starting point is 02:18:14 say look at look at his hand palms up i don't know he He just gives the most half-hearted go straight. But the hilarious thing about it to me is like you get here, you try, like you're about to catch your first touchdown pass, which by the way, Cooper, this fits his personality so much. Watch him. He's like, he doesn't, he doesn't dab anybody up. I'm just at work.

Starting point is 02:18:35 He's like, yep, good job, good job. I don't say a word. I just go for a thousand yards every season. But you get to a- Remember when we interviewed Harrison Smith and he was, we asked him about guys in the NFL. He has a lot of respect for, especially over the middle. he brought up Amari Cooper like pretty early in that conversation and said like he's a guy who is not like who needs to get more respect because he's really good. So like he's going to be huge for the bill. I asked Darius Slay who the most underrated receiver in the league was and Cooper's gone to a bunch of bowls and that sort of thing and he's gotten the accolades. But he said Amari Cooper. And I think the funny thing about that play is not Keon's reaction. It's the fact that it's Keon you have to ask. Yes. And you know, it's this guy that's famous for.

Starting point is 02:19:18 being hilarious and a bit of a space cowboy. Look at this, what is this? Booking.com. This is the best ad on TV. Booking.com. I want to go into neither water. Hi, I'm working rider receiver, Keon O'Colme.

Starting point is 02:19:34 Now I'm reinforcing how simple it is to get. Thank you. Now I'm reinforcing how simple it is to get travel war. Liberty Bibbity. It's so shitty. It's so good. This is my favorite. more the ambiance.

Starting point is 02:19:49 He does the barrel roll to the bad dude. I still don't know. I can't decide what I like more. The ambiance or the decor. On all sorts of things. On all sorts of things. That is so awesome. It's a great.

Starting point is 02:20:07 It's a great nod to Marshawn Lynch in Applebee's. Because that's the, that's Marshaun Lynch walked in. He's like, I can't decide which I like more. The ambiance of the decor. That's so funny. That's so funny. It's so great. It seemed like they had a solid script written for it.

Starting point is 02:20:21 Yeah. And then they were just like, oh, wait a minute. This will be way better if we just take every single, like the best pieces of the singing. Whoever produced this is like a coach that's like, I'm going to fit my scheme to fit the talent of the player. Yeah. You know, I have a script, but like, you know, let's let this guy cook. Let him cook. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 02:20:42 Um, I thought that was a, just a gutsy win by Buffalo and, you know, Alan, quiet 300 yards, two touchdowns. QB2. First, Coleman, first 100-yard receiver for the... Grayne 1, Sprane, MCL, and will now be considered week-to-week. Oh, no. D-K. Metcalf. Not good for Seattle. D-K. Metcalfe.

Starting point is 02:21:04 Grade 1. It could be worse. Yeah. Buffalo. At the teams that played, Buffalo is about to be extra dangerous with Amari Cooper. Yeah. Yeah, no question. Like, I feel like they're only two.

Starting point is 02:21:18 team this past weekend at like, you could be like, oh, they got better. Oh, for real. Like, they got better. Oh, they did. Like, they got better. It's just evident. Like, even when wait until Milano and them get back. Oh, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. It's the middle year guys are hurt on teams, but just thinking about the end of the year, if all teams get the guy, their core guys back and playing, like, still. Oh, Amari Cooper. Because I'll tell you what they do have. They got Josh. Yeah. They got Josh. I know there's a lot of people hate hearing it over and over gang because it might bother you but rich eisen rich eisen talking about no josh i'm the only one that was relieved and also like kind of disappointed and not see will levis plus well he was he was injured he was

Starting point is 02:22:01 injured oh i know i mean it's like i'm like i'm like i'm like happy to not have to watch him out there but also like kind of sad for the memes but it doesn't matter you see his commercials every other break with him doing a full split on some mayonnaise bottles. I know. We were sitting there with somebody yesterday and it was Chris Allen

Starting point is 02:22:24 our boy Chris and he was like the Mayo man commercial came on he's doing a split he goes I wish I could do that that probably would feel so fucking good and it probably would to be able to do that I don't is that Leviss that's not Levis doing that's like a body double right?

Starting point is 02:22:39 No I think he can do a split like that yeah why not? I do it I don't think, yeah, I don't think the agents. Why is that hate? How is that hate? You guys don't know if he could do a split or not? That's reality, bro.

Starting point is 02:22:52 There is no fucking chance. Will Levis is doing a fucking split for a fucking mayonnaise commercial, dude. No. No, but the question is, do you think you can do a split in real life just in general? No. No. I don't know, guys. I mean, that guy is the top level athlete.

Starting point is 02:23:11 Do you think I could do a split? He's not a top of athlete. you practice for it. You think? I think if you practice for it, you, you, you may be, you may be, do you want to see how close you are? No, not at all. Definitely not in jeans. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it while we do this Washington Carolina. Hey, yo, stop asking me questions like that. Can't ask you a question? Yesterday you kept asking me if I could touch my toes. And today, you're asking if I think you could do a split or not, bro. Like, get your mind out of the gutter. Give me the context of me asking if you could touch your toes. It was after the commercial.

Starting point is 02:23:43 Exactly. We were talking about flexibility. What another dude. Don't ask me how flexible are. I can't ask you how flexible you are because you think I'm trying to have sex with you or something. What's going on here?

Starting point is 02:23:55 I don't know, man. Is that what it is? We don't have an HR, so. Yeah, we do. It's me. Yeah, Bo's self-proclaimed head of HR. He's head of HR. You got a fucking problem?

Starting point is 02:24:06 You know who can do a split? Christian Wilkins, bro. Do you remember when he was at Clemson and he was like doing like, after the game he did like some dance and then like landed in a split and we were like, whoa you dog. Hey yo! I know he did the cue dog but but for somebody like me I was like yeah but to finish with the split

Starting point is 02:24:25 I was like man so to your point some people are more flexible than others yeah I can do a split facts I bet you can you got those again I don't care if you guys can do splits or not all right aden daniels yeah to week with a ribs injury

Starting point is 02:24:45 yeah he is he is and we might not get the rookie bowl like because they might have to just be smart and rest him when he came back on the field in street clothes and was just like like it feels like the commanders fans are in on this

Starting point is 02:24:59 inside joke and the rest of the country doesn't get to like play but they got this awesome thing right now where it's like when he walked back on that field and he was like okay and they were just curb stomping the Panthers and there's rebar falling on people and fucking wires there was a wire that fell on somebody last night if they make the playoffs somebody's going to die in we still got to we have to

Starting point is 02:25:24 go no we have to go it's turned into a final destination though you own a content company bro i understand but ever go to that still again honestly honestly seriously they should they you should be you should have to sign a waiver before you walk in the stadium yeah should be condemned Honestly, the stadium should be condemned, for real. And then if that happens, then what? Then what? Play it in a field somewhere, but like, do not. I mean, that stadium is falling apart.

Starting point is 02:25:53 If there's a playoff game, they couldn't handle a Dante Fowler pick six against the Panthers. That stadium couldn't handle that. You'd be like in the beginning of Batman or the Dark Night Rises where like they just blow up. Oh, it just split. That's what I think might happen. It might be a Bain situation.

Starting point is 02:26:14 Yeah. It's an I am legend looking ass stadium. Seriously. Jaden Daniels to Terry McLaurin for 60-yard bomb. Yeah. The whole stadium's gone. And a giant single opens up on. The two teams are in expansion draft mode.

Starting point is 02:26:32 Damn, bro. Because that stadium just imploded. Anyways. Oh, also. Also, he should sit out this week because of, You see that damn fan who posted on Reddit saying that he was there when Alex Smith got hurt. And then he was at the game also when RG3 got hurt. And then he informed everyone, I will be at the game next week.

Starting point is 02:26:55 Yeah, but there were so many people that were at all those games. You know what I mean? That's the problem with cherry pick statistics. But if you only go to a couple of games a year, just like buying tickets randomly. You think this guy's like the Grim Reaper? I mean, if he feels, I mean, if you only go once in a while, you probably remember things like that. that damn i went to this game and the main quarterback got hurt joshua i can't say your last name i'm so sorry c mc msko commander stadium got to put one of those you may be entitled compensation

Starting point is 02:27:22 commercials no question it's like mesothemia mesothema in that stadium backlaces when they enter the stadium can i just can we turn our can we turn the first off cliff kingsbury is doing a really good job because margots mariotta was out there dealing too It also calls into question, like, anything that happens against the Panthers, maybe we shouldn't take too much from it. There's a couple teams that probably are looking at that game yesterday in saying, damn, I was kind of basing some realities off of what I saw against the Saints early in the season. You're like, oh, what a win. You know, and it's like the Panthers. So I decided to get on Panthers Reddit just to check the temperature.

Starting point is 02:28:04 I want to shout those good people out, the people that post about that are part of online communities centering around. around the Carolina Panthers. Like, David Tepper has y'all by the balls, man. It sucks. I am sorry. Mr. Moose on Panthers, Panthers Reddit. This is a direct quote.

Starting point is 02:28:21 I got laid off a month ago, and I'm looking for a job. Watching the Panthers game each week means the first day of each week starts off so bad that everything else happening during the week is instantly better by comparison. Thanks, Panthers.

Starting point is 02:28:33 Talk about finding a bright side. And this one from Post Rocker, this is my favorite post. I didn't read the reply. is it considered BDSM if my girl wears Panthers gear while we smash? Sadistic, bro. It is sadistic to root for this team. I know a lot of y'all don't have a choice.

Starting point is 02:28:54 I grew up a Panthers fan. Hey, if you'd like to do a couple rushes, their average time to pressure, 2.92 seconds. Oh, bro, I could eat. That is a long time. I could eat. Honestly. Honestly, we got a few rushers in here.

Starting point is 02:29:11 I would swear off masturbation to go play for the Panthers. We should, on Friday, let's have me. Remember that whole Canales thing? We'll call on Friday. Do you remember the Canales thing? Do you know what I'm referencing? Bo, do you know what I'm referencing? Yeah, he stopped jerking off.

Starting point is 02:29:27 Yeah. Who's it? And wrote a book about it. Dave Canales. Oh, what coach is that again? If I don't have to practice, I would stop doing that to go play for the Panthers. I would swear it off. I mean, he's probably pissed.

Starting point is 02:29:41 If you can get there in 2.8 seconds. I can get there in 2.8 seconds. If you can get there in 2.8 seconds, I can get there, all right. I hope an Al's jerking off now. He needs something, goodness, life. Well, listen, this defense is tracking at a historical rate. Points per game, historically lines 2,020, 32 points per game, given up. 81 Colts 33 points per game.

Starting point is 02:30:05 The Panthers are at almost 35 points per game. It should be a yard sale, but there's no items. You know what I mean? I'm not trying to be, it's not hate. Seriously, I went through it today. And I was like, okay, we're going to do a Panthers yard sale thing. It's just a yard with J.C. Horn sitting in a chair. He's too young, one prize item.

Starting point is 02:30:28 There's one item. So anyways, the Panthers are so bad they ruined the Daniels Williams Bowl. and and tax sale no items and the fact the fact bow and i'll i'll give you the floor in a second but the fact that the NFL is sending the panthers and the giants to play in munich makes me think that we're not over world war like is it is it is it an act of war to send these two teams over to your home country and make you watch this shit that is unbelievable that that is an international game it's probably better that's played on foreign soul soil. What were you going to say, Bo?

Starting point is 02:31:12 I just wanted to know what you thought about Jane Daniel's mom tweeting out that he's alright. What did she say he's fine? I love that. I love having family members with Twitters because you get the scoop. You don't have to give it to Schefter. The mom just reports it. Eat your heart out, Shepter. Just live from the family group chat straight to Twitter.

Starting point is 02:31:32 That stadium. I'm never going to that stadium. You think I'm going to that stadium? I'm never going now. A wire fell on those people. No way. I'd ride in a blimp above the stadium. I'd ride in a Goodyear blimp above the stadium. I'd parachute onto the field like one of those army guys before I would sit in that stadium and take my life into my own hands.

Starting point is 02:31:54 Hey, commander, send tickets, I'll come. Am I ruining your trip to Washington? I mean, you're like, you're just curb stomping it right now. Did you think there was a trip to Washington on the table for you? I feel like if you were like, I would love to go up there and see J. You think they give us tickets? Hell yeah,

Starting point is 02:32:13 they would give you tickets. Are you crazy? Okay. Magic John, you don't you think Magic Johnson's a Howie Long fan? Like, absolutely. That's Howie Long, son. Howie Long was drafted in 1983 by the Raiders,

Starting point is 02:32:27 finished his career with 82 sacks. Oh, exactly. He probably knows all of it. Yeah. All right. What's the next game? Jags. We're into the shit games here.

Starting point is 02:32:37 Um, one comment on the Jags here. I cannot believe that Doug went for it up to scores in the fourth quarter when he could have made it an 18 point game. I love it. I could not believe that he went for it and then it got stopped. And that was the only way the Patriots get back in this game. The first half of the game, the Drake May looked awesome. He really did.

Starting point is 02:33:00 I mean, he really did. And as the game went on, it's just things kind of became harder and that, you know, they got more one dimensional as they got down and that sort of thing. But early in the game, I thought, like for Patriots fans, you should be really excited about having this guy on your team. That's great. Shout out to Chris Brockman. You know, I was tweeting him yesterday during the game. Great, great, great thing to look forward to in the future. And I don't think like, honestly, and Jordan Reed, who has been on the show, is really bright, knows college football in and out. This was a tweet from him. Drake didn't have adequate

Starting point is 02:33:36 surroundings during his last year at UNC, comforting chaos and uplifting his surroundings, have carried over so far showing this much with below average weapons and protection is a promising sign. He's right. And I think it's interesting looking at college quarterbacks. A lot of them do have really good setups.

Starting point is 02:33:52 Seeing the ones that have to kind of play their group out of mediocrity, relatively speaking, not saying UNC's not a great program, but that group he had as a senior was not as good as some of these other lottery type picks groups. And I do think it helps him coming into a situation like this where you're throwing the guys like Jalen Polk who can't catch the ball and they're benching, you know,

Starting point is 02:34:14 by the way, they bench KJ. Osborne and he's posting pictures of an exchange with who might be his agent and his agents telling him like, we're going to, we're going to fix this, all this stuff, keep your head up, yada, yada, yada, the things they're doing you wrong. I do think Mayo's Patriots are on a little bit of like a mutiny watch. I'm not saying the whole team. at all but I am saying that some of the hard lines he's drawing in the sand and this is part of it like it comes with the territory of making tough decisions and sitting guys down and trading judon and you know like it's not everybody's not going to be happy and after the game for him to call a team soft um as a player I would take issue with that but I also know that like him and and Antonio appears

Starting point is 02:34:56 two guys they're old players that's kind of the way they think yep and of course the next day he comes back with the like I didn't call you a bitch saying you were being you're Being a big. Yeah. You know, that was the thing. He was like, you're not a soft team. And then Bill Belichick comes on, you know, the McGriffie show today. And he's saying it's the same players as last year.

Starting point is 02:35:14 And they were the number one run defense in the league. And we couldn't move the ball on offense. So what's going on? I think the truth is somewhere in between. You know, I think they have lost a couple guys. So they are missing a couple guys that are key guys right now. I don't think it's a soft team. But I think that whatever they're doing, they're not playing good football.

Starting point is 02:35:32 I mean, like, and sometimes that can have been. here like soft if you don't stop the run, but are you making business decisions? I love Bill stirring the pot, knowing that he's going to coach against him next year. Totally stirring the pot. Just stirring the pot. Totally starting the pot. He's playing the long game. Playing the long game.

Starting point is 02:35:47 I love it. And I got to see the film to say for sure if they played soft. They might have played soft. You know, like, hey, when Bill was in the building, you know, there is a certain fear that he strikes in people's hearts. And if people... Yeah, you have one bad rap. That thing's going to be up on in a team meeting.

Starting point is 02:36:03 No, you're gone. depending on who you are. The entire organization. So there's no booking your trip to Mekanos, right, Nate? If Bill's your coach, you still got to like, you can book the trip, but you got to finish strong. Yeah. And I don't know if guys are just, you know, they're feeling so like this is just a cashed in year that he's not getting great effort in some spots or what. I'll look at the All-22.

Starting point is 02:36:24 I can't say for sure. But I do think it's a tough deal to call your team soft. And, you know, I didn't hear the sound bite today, but it sounded like Mayo backtracked on that. deal. So it's a little bit chaotic up there. But if you, if you keep the main thing, the main thing as Patriots fans, first off, you haven't had to wait that long. Okay. So like, I don't feel bad. And then second, like you have what looks like a franchise quarterback. I mean, as much as you can call somebody to that after two starts, if we're looking at rookies, you know, I can't say for sure if Bo Nix is going to be a guy for a long time in this league. But I can tell you that Jaden

Starting point is 02:37:00 Daniels looks like a guy. Caleb Williams looks like a guy. Caleb Williams looks like a guy. guy. And Drake May in the little bit that I've seen of him looks like a guy. So for you to have to wait like a few years between Brady leaving and 18 or whatever it was. And now that's not the longest time in the world. And at least you have that guy. And I know it's hard to say, hey, we're putting on another season because the team's not where it needs to be, but it's not a great roster. It's just not. And even as good as the defense is, they are down a couple key guys. And it's a new defensive coordinator, new coaching staff. So I'm going to take a all this with a grain of salt and look at it on the bright side and say you got drake may he

Starting point is 02:37:39 looks like he can play that's one thing that if you whiff on that thing it sets you back as an organization if you pick the wrong quarterback it set you back as an organization they don't appear to have done that so it's a very good thing bright side indy i don't know if you're hearing it indy miami another uh north a fc east battle excuse me uh well at miami and the a fc There we go. Sort of. Sorry. It's east of the Mississippi.

Starting point is 02:38:08 It is east of the, another game played east of the Mississippi. And nobody saw. I would rather throw up in my own mouth and swallow it than watch this game. Wow. I mean, I'll hold your hair. I hate it. And I'd rather hold your hair while you do that than watch this game because it was just,

Starting point is 02:38:30 I mean, like from what I saw, it was ugly. And I mean, this is the. question that I think needs to get asked. And we touched on this briefly earlier when we were talking about field. I have a feeling we've touched on it a bit. Yeah. Well, it's like it is, and you talked about flacco and how great of an interview he was. Check that out on Greenlight YouTube. Nice. My dog. Does playing Anthony Richardson put you in the best position to win football games down the stretch if you're the Colts? Um, no, he doesn't. He doesn't. He does not. And that and, and now Indy has to decide whether or not like the experience is more important than staying in the wildcar race

Starting point is 02:39:08 because you know next couple games and listen i got kind of i got kind of yelled at when i said this out loud the first time this year which is like hey for where this team is right now jo's the best quarterback for the team i agree um there is a world where anthony richardson next year gets some of these mechanical issues fixed and comes out and just balls. And maybe over the next month, he fixed some of these things because I think yesterday, as bad as I would say, like, hey, Joe's the guy I would play. I don't think it was really all Anthony Richardson's fault. I think Stiking came out of the game and said, like, I kind of left him out to dry there.

Starting point is 02:39:49 It wasn't a lot of separation. I didn't like the game plan that we gave the kid, yada, yada, yada. and I think Noah Compton on Twitter, look at this attribution right here, shout at Noah Compton. Richardson was pressured on a career high, 60% of dropbacks, not sacked. 12 of 18 pressures against Richardson were quick pressures.

Starting point is 02:40:11 This is the highest quick pressure rate of the season, quick pressure being under 2.3 or whatever it is. So the point is, not only that you got the head coach saying, hey, we didn't get guys open, didn't like the game plan, and then you also see that there was a lot of pressure on him. And Miami's secondary is actually like they've got some decent guys back there. They actually do a pretty good job in the past game. So this was not going to be easy.

Starting point is 02:40:36 But the only reason the indie won this game is because Miami gave it to him. It's two fumbles and a doink on a field goal. And that game was so shitty, we can kind of summarize it in two, three sentences. And I think more interesting is, the conversation about Andy going forward as you as you put it and and I think they have to make a decision only they know what's going on with Anthony and his mechanics and what he likes and doesn't like but I can tell you sitting at home watching on the couch Joe Flacco gives this team a chance to compete in the wild card race and I don't know that Anthony does I agree I think they understand

Starting point is 02:41:16 offensively what he is I mean they they had a lot of design quarterback run for him and that's good and that's the strength I think you had like 60 yards rushing Yeah. And for a guy who's been injured, I don't think that's that good of an idea. Like, he's been sitting out because he's been injured. And then you make a game plan where you know he can't throw that well, so you're going to run him. And it's just, I don't know.

Starting point is 02:41:39 Like I said, they're not putting him in the best spot. I don't feel like. Maybe they want to get Jonathan Taylor back. Jonathan Taylor's down, you know, so there's a lot going on. Like, I don't know. You get J.T. back. He's still going to miss the easy stuff. But then you get flat and you have flacco and JT.

Starting point is 02:41:56 Hey, I said it a lot. I say it a lot, but it's not bad to put him in a taste of hill roll for a little bit. If you guys are going to run the package with him running the ball a lot anyway, put him in there, then let Joe Flacco get you guys some yards and put you in a position to actually win game. Dude, and I'm not trying to down the kid. I like the kid. I see it.

Starting point is 02:42:15 I see all the talent. And I think he seems to be an awesome dude. So I wish him nothing but the best. I wish him, you know, franchise quarterback, status. I want him to take over the league. It'd be so fun to see Anthony Richardson, the stuff we saw in that Houston game on display every week. But you also got to hit the easy stuff. And some of the problems he's had has been taken a little bit off, you know, like being a passer, not a thrower. And, you know, he's thrown the fuck out of the ball. But, you know, some of these passes where you

Starting point is 02:42:47 got to put touch on the ball or the footwork or, you know, I'm not a former quarterback, obviously. but listen to former quarterbacks talk about it. You know, and, and, you know, if you, I think I'd be really interested to see what JTO Sullivan has to say about it, because I think he's one of the best at breaking down quarterback play. By the way, shout out to QB school. I just joined the Patreon the other day. Haven't been able to sit down and watch some of the paywall videos that he's got there, but I love the free shit that I've consumed over the last year and a half kind of since I started discovering his stuff.

Starting point is 02:43:21 I would be interested to see like what does J.T. O. Sullivan have to say about a guy like that. Maybe we should get him on the show one of these days. But how do you fix the guy's mechanics as the season goes on? I don't know in the middle of a wild card race how you do that. I think they got to make some hard decisions here coming up because they have the Texans, which just got flexed. The Vikings next week just got flexed. They have the Texans, the Vikings, the bills the next three weeks. So you could look up in a month and be like, damn, we're out of it. I don't think that that's necessarily what's going to happen, but they did just flex this Vikings game, I believe. I read a Kevin Sefer tweet two minutes before we started the show. And I think that game's, is it in Minnesota? You think about what? It's in Houston. So it's in Houston? No, it's in L.A.

Starting point is 02:44:16 You're talking about Thursday night? Are they playing Thursday night? No, they flexed the Vikings game. They flexed the Vikings game. When do they play the Vikings? have I just lost my mind are they not playing the Vikings coming up the Vikings play Thursday night I believe this week so they play this week holds are playing at Minnesota at Minnesota in two weeks they flex that game they flex that game so I look at that Sunday night football exactly okay

Starting point is 02:44:44 NFL flexes the Colts versus the Vikings to Sunday night football week nine okay so that another game that's even tougher when you think about it like going on the road in a environment and having to have to squeak out of wind. Joe Flacco just gives you the best chance right now. Yeah. No doubt. Not hating on the kid. No, yeah.

Starting point is 02:45:05 Yeah, not at all. And we're standing up to hate. Yeah, we're taking a timeout on hate. In two minutes, I'm going to go back to hating everyone. And then if I have two more timeouts, I'm going to call them at different times. But when those timeouts are up, I'm going to go back to hating everybody. that's what the NFL wants me to do it's the dumbest fucking thing in the world

Starting point is 02:45:27 all right um rams rams thank you antonio yeah dude hey go ravens yeah you know um I want to shout out Jared verse he had nine pressures yesterday in the game I watched them all

Starting point is 02:45:43 watched all his rushes I'm really impressed with the guy um I love I love the way he rushes he's got good hands he loves stutter bold that sort of thing you know so far it hasn't been a deal where he's finished a lot of these plays but that comes with time and uh i would just say jared verse like hey is a guy that my first two years got close a lot like those numbers are coming like he is just he is a he is a power rusher and somebody who's motor doesn't stop and uh i think that's a a fun young rush group fisk won some rushes

Starting point is 02:46:17 uh i like the young guy um you know they are Kobe turner they are they're a fun group so like this was probably the worst game to watch on the board I would have to imagine I went back and watched the all 22 to watch the rushers but for somebody to watch the entire game

Starting point is 02:46:36 when's the biggest yard sale coming up and I feel for Antonio because I know that he won jaden Daniels before the season so they knew which quarterback to draft they just couldn't get up and get them and like now you know you think that it in O'Connell's hurt for four to six weeks or something with a finger or hand

Starting point is 02:46:54 or some broken thumb and then and then you know you got to go back to minch you so for the Raiders Tom Brady is now in the building it's going to be interesting to see how he affects uh how they move no I mean like they're going to ask him his opinion you know they're going to ask him should we should we that's fire for them to consult like he can no it's pretty awesome yeah be like hey guys he looks like he looks like like he's good but ah but also like building your program yeah like i said earlier tom's a better gm than erin like tom really understands team building you know he he he's been in new england he did it in in in uh in Tampa for that short stent I think like from a standpoint of like

Starting point is 02:47:41 constructing a roster if there's ever a conversation if Antonio's not the guy in a year or two you know which sucks because like it's not like he's really set up for success here. Hey, the first thing to Lesco did is they went out and got Brock Bowers, who to me looks like a, he's been playing great. A Raider for life, hopefully. You got a couple guys. So, it's not like you haven't done good things,

Starting point is 02:48:06 but when there is a time to make a decision, if that's the case, I think Tom Brady weighing in on, like, who the coach is, being in there in those meetings, or at the end of the season, like, if Antonio Pierce is the guy, you know, like, what do we need to do to take the next step? I think it would help to have Tom Brady in the building. I think it was a really good move having him in that ownership group.

Starting point is 02:48:24 I mean, to see the way they welcomed them, I think. Yeah, they had a whole spread. It's so crazy. They had like fucking hors d'oeuvres and shit. But for right now, they're cooked. Yeah, they're cooked right now. Yeah. They're cooked.

Starting point is 02:48:37 For sure. Pride. But, I mean, like, you have to start looking at Carolina, Cleveland, Tennessee, the Jets, New Orleans, the Giants, all one or two team win teams who probably won a quarterback at the end of the season. And there's going to be a lot of people like there are every year. But if you're the Raiders, you cannot go into next season without a quarterback. They need two quarterbacks. It's just been too long. To me, I mean, Derek Carr was there a couple years ago, but it does feel like this team.

Starting point is 02:49:05 I saw a sign Raiders rebuilding since 2003. Like, it just feels that way. And the league is better off if they're good. And I'd really love to see them turn the corner eventually, but this is in the year. Moments time. Ben MGM moments. You want to hear from. Do it, do it, do it.

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Starting point is 02:50:25 It's a short flight. You got a big win. Last week on the flight home, you were, that's two weeks in a row. Road Warriors going in Dallas, going into Minnesota, hostile environment. This time you're not mourning the loss of your best defensive player. You can actually enjoy the flight home. Walking your trap, take over your trap. Walking your trap, take over your trap.

Starting point is 02:50:44 Best flight, going to Amari Cooper to Buffalo. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Just getting out of there. Just get out. Just getting out of there. And just in time. Just in time for a guy like that. Imagine all the questions they'd be asking him right now.

Starting point is 02:51:00 And he's a guy who barely wants to talk, just wants to play football. Oh, bro. He's averted the whole thing. And then it's amazing. You're in Buffalo. I have a feeling he would have had the same answer as us on the Deshaun thing. Yeah. It would have been like, uh, uh, yeah, exactly.

Starting point is 02:51:13 Like, let's talk about football. I just want to win. Right? It's not going to happen here. Let me run my route for you. Yeah. What's the best flight, Best flights

Starting point is 02:51:23 Dougie P's taking the team Charter home he's not flying not coach First class Matt Matt Roth pointed out It's not the container ship yeah no Yeah lucky for him But that seat's still hot boy Still hot

Starting point is 02:51:38 It's still hot to touch Leaving London after two weeks He's like give me the fuck Home I want to go home No question I hope you enjoy sleeping in your bed Doug doesn't seem like an anglophile he's like I want a fucking hot dog

Starting point is 02:51:53 it's probably like what he finds himself saying walking around like what is this some craft mac and cheese he wants some ice cream Chris yeah he wants some hog andos American ice cream um I'll give you the worst flight related Devante Adams

Starting point is 02:52:06 you like did I fly anywhere like literally I left a two and five team and I joined a two and five I'm getting my ass beat by the Steelers getting on a flight I'm getting my ass beat by the steel. Bro, it's Groundhog Day for this guy.

Starting point is 02:52:24 It's groundhog day. That's hilarious. It's like a glitch in the Matrix, taking off when Josh McCown landed in St. Louis. And they were like, you're not in St. Louis? What do you mean? I'm in St. Louis. You remember that whole thing. I'm not going to go into any more detail.

Starting point is 02:52:38 It's the same thing. It's like, wait, I landed in fucking Las Vegas again. Same thing. Worst flight. How many points to Vegas score this week? 15 score the same amount of points as the jets that's the the symmetry of his transaction is incredible incredible mental illness you know went there you think he has a mental illness yeah like it's just like you don't want to win doctor facts you don't want to what kind of syndrome is that when you have a best friend that like convinces you

Starting point is 02:53:16 to do bad things. Stockholm? Stockholm? Do you think it's Stockholm? Yes. Because he didn't, because Aaron doesn't want him to win either. What is Stockholm syndrome?

Starting point is 02:53:23 It's just like when you fall in love with your capture, your cap. Yeah. And that's how he got out of that situation before. He left Green Bay. That's interesting. And he's going back to, I'm going to let you cook. Cycle of abuse name.

Starting point is 02:53:36 Break the cycle. It's just, oh, man. That's interesting. And Stockholm syndrome. That's, and Rogers is like, yo,

Starting point is 02:53:42 he's going to go somewhere. You can't go somewhere and win without me. Come here. What went here? Cap. Worst flight is going to the Texans, leaving Green Bay, back to Texas with an angry Stefan Diggs. I don't think it, I think you're trying to make Stefan Diggs into somebody he's not. No, I just think that he was angry.

Starting point is 02:54:10 You think he's just from the start of that game, all the way to the finish. So what makes you think that he's not angry on that flight? growing like the grapes and shit like you know like you know the little the food that they give you he's just wrecking they put toilet paper in the fucking in the in the in the commode there I just think potentially he's a type of teammate to be walking up and down the aisle or aisle or being pissed and being like yeah and I got a bunch of bitches on my team didn't want to help me out and blah blah I'm out there by myself before the game with all these guys around me like maybe maybe Joe Mixon said that stuff

Starting point is 02:54:46 phone was misunderstood and now we have the evidence. I love the leap of logic. Suddenly he's like crashing the plane. You know what I mean? He said he's not the bigger guy. He's never going to be the bigger guy. When it comes to Jair, it doesn't mean he's going to like hijack a plane. No, I don't think that.

Starting point is 02:55:06 This thing is this worst flight. You don't want to deal with that when you're on the flight. My buddy William Hayes used to throw grapes at people on the flight. And sometimes he throw grapes at Wayne Hunter, who was the sky. scariest guy on the planet and he blamed it on like Craig doll who was a little db and he'd come back there that was i mean that's what it reminds me of is like just somebody you're saying he's just a problem child on the flight that's what i'm imagining is um but what is it bo's worst flight oh boz uh i mean this is basic when the patriots coming back from london your your your long-ass flight you got beat by

Starting point is 02:55:44 not a good jaggs team your head coach is calling you soft your jet lagged you're probably constipated from all that food in the uk not a good flight that's a bad flight yeah bad one bumble conway green bay's icy whites man and low key shout out to commies panthers that that looked beautiful i don't know why it was just bright colors opposing bright colors it was gorgeous Beville Conway Illinois fighting Alainai With the old schools

Starting point is 02:56:15 With the old school Shout out to the leather Helmet Days Nice little painted helmets And I like the I like the get up too Look real old fashioned

Starting point is 02:56:25 Looks like a little glitch Like you're playing the video game No I don't When I said I don't love the helmet I just don't think it's the level of this helmet This helmet's a work of art Nothing is Nothing is

Starting point is 02:56:35 That's a work that's a literal work of art It took two hours for each helmet to be paid. I understand. That's a work of art. I understand. I worked a long time in a lot of school projects.

Starting point is 02:56:43 It's a red helmet with what I's stickers. I know. Sometimes the simplicity is what, well, they're not going to send you any helmets. Bo, you got a bevel? Oh,

Starting point is 02:56:55 my Bevel Conway is the picture that the Green Light Twitter account tweeted out of Brandon Graham walked out in coverage against the That was so funny, dude. That was so good on Malik neighbors. Such a good photo.

Starting point is 02:57:12 And BG's a shit-talking animal, so I know what he was saying. I need to know what he was saying. Yeah, that might be the fly on the wall. Did you see the thing I posted above it? I've been getting picks and mad with BG for like months, dude. I've been saying they need to drop them back into coverage. You know? Hey, hey, what I'm neighbors.

Starting point is 02:57:32 You're kind of nice, but you never seen me coverage. Ah! Ah! I'm going to kill you today, neighbors. and knowing he's only going to get one shot. Yeah. Fly on the wall. Fly on the wall.

Starting point is 02:57:45 I don't have one. Fly on the wall. I got a good one. I would like to be a fly on the wall in the little ref huddle for the Texas game, the Texas Georgia game after that PI call. There's all the student section is throwing shit on the field, throwing garbage. It was like a four minute long timeout and the rest were huddling up.

Starting point is 02:58:08 then they reversed the call. I want to know the conversation that was going on in that huddle. I've never seen that. I was stunned that they reversed that call. I didn't watch. They were probably talking about how to get out the stadium alive. Stanford Steve. I can't remember a situation like that before where they actually reversed such a big call.

Starting point is 02:58:27 First of all, it was a fucking terrible call. So like, good job, Zeros for once. But like, what were the conversations that were had in that huddle? I've been dying to know. I'd be dying to know too because I didn't even see it. I miss that game. Fly on the wall for Georgia kicked their ass, didn't they? Fly on the wall for me is going to be a Mike Williams locker

Starting point is 02:58:47 when Aaron Rogers before the game had to probably go talk to him. Like, hey, you're playing in his game tonight. Sorry about what happened. Like, I need you out there to go out there and catch these balls or whatever bullshit that he probably said to him before that game. I'm sure that he had to talk to him. Yeah. like at some point.

Starting point is 02:59:07 No question. It's super weird too. It's a super weird deal. It's such a crazy deal. That conversation would have been awkward. But shout out to Mike, because you got to still go out there and perform for other teams. I might want to pick you up.

Starting point is 02:59:18 A fourth down. After one of the best quarterbacks in the league tells every, all the teams that you might have messed up a play. So, kudos to him. But that's my fly on the wall. What was said in that conversation? We're going to a worst seat?

Starting point is 02:59:33 Best and worst, yep. I got a worse seat for you. Can you roll the tape on this guy? Can you roll the tape on this guy at the Buffalo game who was eating salmon at his seat? Whoever is sitting next to this guy paid good money. That's like some shit Nate would do. I swear. This guy is unbelievable.

Starting point is 02:59:53 This is unbelievable. It looks so good. And I don't understand why you guys have problems with people eating, eating places that they're serving. You, be mad at the stadium. and why is this tape? Bro, that's like he brought that salmon in his pocket. No, that's home salmon, bro. Is it?

Starting point is 03:00:11 Well, that's good too. You know the Yankees? You're allowed to bring in your own food. If you're, hey, shout out to that guy, man. Hey, if you're allowed to bring food into the stadium, shout out to that guy.

Starting point is 03:00:23 Shout out to that guy. I love smoked salmon, bro, but smoke salmon is not for public consumption. It's also not like a, it's not a, in front of your fridge, you're private, like Tony Supermonie.

Starting point is 03:00:34 Prano eating some gobboc. Definitely not with your hands at a at a 1 p.m. game. That guy probably high-fiving everyone around him too. It's also I think it was temperate up there in Buffalo. Like you don't eat salmon like that in a temperate climate like outside at a public event. You just don't in my opinion. I guess I'm crazy. Yeah, maybe.

Starting point is 03:00:56 Worst seat is going to me my crib during Dodgers games because I just. found out I have a neighbor who is a crazy Dodgers fanatic and since they've been winning this past couple of weeks randomly when they play I've heard screaming banging and not until the other night when I was actually just watching the game and realized the correlation of why he's going crazy. You thought it was sex? No, I just didn't know. Like I didn't know but now anytime there's a Dodgers game going on, I know he's going

Starting point is 03:01:32 ape shit. I'm kind of happy for him. I'm kind of happy for him because it's cool. Tanner's happy for him. Fuck the mats. Yeah. Right? Fuck the mats.

Starting point is 03:01:42 We wanted a subway series. Let's go jankies. Jankies. Nobody wanted a subway series, but the people that live in New York. Hey, don't hate. Is that Bo's worst seat?

Starting point is 03:01:55 Bo's worst seat. You got that tweet for me, Cowboy? Yep. Worst seat. Kyle Long at the era's who are out of my aunt. Brutal. Imagine trying to impress your wife.

Starting point is 03:02:08 So excited. And then someone is in your seat, a rabid, a rabid swiftly refusing to move. Who refuses to move for Kyle long? Can I give you a little background that I found out? Like, oh,

Starting point is 03:02:22 yeah. What do you imagine these seats looking like? I don't know. Typical hard rock stadium little seats. No, no, No, these were sweet tickets. Let's go.

Starting point is 03:02:35 So these were people in a suite that wouldn't move. So Kyle taking to Twitter thinking he's going to find some resolution with the hard rock stadium social team who's currently trying to figure out what the next Taylor Swift tweet is, they're going to be like, stop everything. There's a guy in a suite who can't resolve this issue through the proper channels. gonna go down there and take care of this, Kyle. And you know what? I wouldn't want to be on the wrong end to Kate getting pissed off either. You know, she could snatch somebody up out of the seat. But like, I would be pissed too, especially if it was a Taylor Swift concert. Do you know how hard those tickets to come by? You know that, Bo. Oh, I know. Brother. I thought it was funny, though. I was imagining him having some like, like, you know, seats down there. And I'm like, oh, that's

Starting point is 03:03:29 fucked up but he's up in the suite All right? Yeah, the scamming or the scamming? Kyle's got to just stand his big ass right in front of them for the whole show. Yeah. I wonder how they got those tickets. Best seat,

Starting point is 03:03:44 Robert Sala. A little revenge. I mean, I'm not saying he's rude against his team. He's got his buddies there. He's got some people like, you know, at least it's not his fault. You know, we thought, oh, Robert Sala is the problem. That's what people tried to say. he obviously is not the problem yeah best seat brownie james junior NBA about to be sitting on the

Starting point is 03:04:07 bench watching his dad play that's fire that's fire to be in the same team with your dad that's pretty cool who's the goat yeah and you actually made the team and everyone talks shit I can't believe he made the team I love it no I know make the team that's crazy been in he's been doing his thing he has been doing his thing yeah I think he adds a lot to that team Matt you're the NBA guy. How do you see the Brony LeBron thing shaping up? It's not a big man of nepotism, Chris. You know, I just don't like people who have everything

Starting point is 03:04:39 handed to him. Yeah. He's not an NBA player. Not a fan of that person. Yeah, I don't like that either. If only there were somebody in this room who, uh, you know, you could have played better in college, Beau. It would have been a higher draft big, you know. That's a funny joke because you were number two. Yeah. I know somebody, one guy played better to me, Jake Long.

Starting point is 03:04:58 has the same last name i know nepotism nepotism fucking long no but honestly i am happy for uh lebron because you know as a dad it's like you know i know it's a fire situation it's a cool situation you can say it's it's not it's not you guys all just shit on it i didn't shit on it i didn't shit on it i didn't shit on it how did i did i shit on it i said you said he somehow makes the team and i so it's a shock i'm surprised Most 55th picks don't make the team. Exactly. It's a shock.

Starting point is 03:05:33 Amazing. What's your best? Guys, what's your best seat? Go ahead. Like, you guys are doing that funny. I got a best seat. My best seat is my lovely sister, Grace Allen, massive Swifty,

Starting point is 03:05:44 who somehow manifested sweet tickets with the Kelsey's and her favorite older brother for the Ares concert. Ooh, nice. Eras. She was thriving. Good time. My mom. was there too also by the way i guess she loved it

Starting point is 03:06:01 holo man oh hollow man who hollow man you guys want to go first i gotta think of one easy i got rhodgers getting caught picking his nose and eating a bugger he got caught he got caught what while losing no way while losing no way and everything else that's going on i just love it i miss that i gotta look that up just love it no way

Starting point is 03:06:27 daddy FDA's you know I got to eat my own boogers because the FDA is so corrupt STL Memorial that chick's L5S1 that rushed the field last night in the Steelers game her back has got to be shot did you see her I mean not that I'm like saying it's a good thing I'm not like that's my bag but this woman I mean it was an athletic

Starting point is 03:07:02 feat to run out on the field and not fall straight onto her face they look like legit heavy botchy balls and you know what like that's the thing about trying to deliver whatever message you were trying to deliver I didn't get the message because you got these unserious you got this unserious set of cans

Starting point is 03:07:20 but that is the reason why it's just totally unsurious that is the reason why it was easy for her to get on the field but I guess there's no I think she just ran right. I saw her run right over the... Like if it was like a dude, I think it was the fact that she has those cannons like that.

Starting point is 03:07:36 Everyone's just like, oh, look at those canals. No, I think she jumped onto the field. I saw her jump like the security situation there is just... And God bless her. She is, I mean, she is definitely going to have back problems. She gets a shout out. Unserious set of cats. It was just totally unserious.

Starting point is 03:07:58 set of cans like there there there is a point where it's enough enough cans i i got it you know like i'm just not impressed like money can buy that you know what i'm saying that's too much and there are some guys out there who are really into that yeah like unserious can guys a lot of guys my shtel memorial is going to mark mr can't when nice cans go too far tonight on They're not nice cans. They're making a mockery of cans. Those cans are making a mockery of other cans. My STL is going to Marcus Marietta,

Starting point is 03:08:41 who just banked 200K because of claws in his contract. Every game he plays over 60% of the snaps and you win. 200K bonus. And he just did that the last game. And if Jaden Daniels has to sit out for a few more games, I hope he wins every single one. It's about to be holiday time. Nice bonuses right now is beautiful before Christmas.

Starting point is 03:09:06 That's right. You know who I'm going to give my game ball to? One of the best handful of quarterbacks on the planet, Jared Goff. Indoor, right? I didn't say that. I said that on another show, but I didn't say that today. He bawled out, and he deserves to be in the MVP race, and he deserves a game ball.

Starting point is 03:09:27 You're good enough for Detroit. You're good enough for Greenlight. Jared Goff. Great job. Game ball for me. Beanie Bishop, Sunday night football. Played a great game. I think he's an undrafted free agent rookie, which is sick.

Starting point is 03:09:42 Six tackles, one TFL, two interceptions. One of them was nasty. Oh, it's one of the best picks of the year. A pair of PBEUs as well. He bawled out. It's a sick name, dude. Beanie Bishop. Yeah, it's pretty awesome.

Starting point is 03:09:55 My game ball is going to Andy Reed. just finding the way to win find a way dude your team your quarterback's not playing the best right now you got guys hurt and we talk about all these other teams with players hurt like so what

Starting point is 03:10:07 Rashy rice got hurt plug and play and I just feel like he deserves a game ball he's a coach that there's no excuses and also too like finding the right coaching staff

Starting point is 03:10:18 keeping the right staff yeah keeping the right staff to be able to do the same thing that you do which is plug and play I have my system let's get it done you have your

Starting point is 03:10:27 system, get it done. And if we both get it done, we're going to want a lot of games. There's a lot of getting it done. It's a lot of getting it done there. And that's what they've been doing. Because if you look at Mahomes stats right now, he's having one of those old James years. He picks six touchdowns. He has more picks than touchdown right now. Yeah. QB wins can be a stat when you got Mahomes, but generally not. Generally not. You know, and, you know, I think with that group of receivers outside, I think that's the thing, he made it work less. year and we're like yeah that's just what he's gonna do always you know like if he has Andy if Andy's stern and cooking it up for him I think him and Mahomes there they they

Starting point is 03:11:10 somebody said earlier that guy Joss Sol I think in the comments was like well if Mahomes was on the you know if he was on the Jags we're never gonna have this if my homes was on this year's Jags team the Jags would be pretty good on offense yeah they would be they were sure Brian Thomas Evan Ingram you know like fucking tank bigsby those guys like that offense is better i'm just giving you an example of some of the offenses around the league that are having trouble getting going and part of that is because of what you say the play caller yeah but also that quarterback uh is is not working with a lot outside so um bo's drip king drip queen oh the drip queen new body suit Miami night one debuted i was

Starting point is 03:11:54 there actually a massive roar went up in the uh audience. I didn't know what was going on. I was confused. My sister turned and shrieked in my face. He's wearing a new rep bodysuit. So he Swift, drip for the queen of the week. debuted her new reputation era body suit. Personally, I'm a fan. I like the golden snakes. I think that's swaggy as fuck. Good shit, Taylor. I also have another one if you got that one cute up cowboy. Cooper, Cooper de jean. We need the right picture though. Which picture? The team came out with a sick.

Starting point is 03:12:30 It was like a vintage era Brian Dawkins. Yeah. Oh, guy definitely wants to fuck Cooper to Gene, clearly. Just talking about his appearance. He must want to fuck him. I liked his t-shirt, Christopher. No, I'm being Nate. I'm being Nate.

Starting point is 03:12:45 I'm with you. It's a great t-shirt. Anyway, it was a great t-shirt. I think he paid homage to Doc with it. You can look it up in your own time because Cowboy is struggling. to Google that. I just found it.

Starting point is 03:13:01 Yeah, check it out. Hold on. Stick around for the last. Also, if you want to see some T. Swift adjacent drip, look no further than your boy's outfit from Miami Night 1. I was kind of feeling myself, not going to lie to you, but you got... The Allen family looks good. With the jeans?

Starting point is 03:13:17 We went with double denim. It was fun. Yeah, you look cool. Look great. Canadian tuxedo. You looked awesome, bro. I haven't got a compliment from you in a while. Don't take that the wrong way, but I thought it was a good outfit.

Starting point is 03:13:27 it. There you go, Bo. See that tea? Man, that's so Gen Z-Coded. I love it. Let me see what it says. What does it say? Is that Dawkins? Brian Dawkins. Yeah. You got to show up and play well, too, if you're going to wear a Brian Dawkins shirt into the stadium. Personally, if it was me, Coop, I'm cutting that into a crop.

Starting point is 03:13:50 Just consider that next time. That's actually probably 100% true. What's Nate? your viral moment. That's viral moment. I'm going with the two Alabama football teams, cornerbacks doing the viral TikTok challenge. Let me see your step back.

Starting point is 03:14:13 During a game, during a fourth down play. Like one of the biggest plays of the game. They were not involved with. What is that? They're just doing a step back, like a fake basketball stepback. that's a stupid TikTok but it was actually a trend like years ago

Starting point is 03:14:30 but it's just something that they decided to do uh they're gonna lose out you want to know what happened lose out do you think they got the first down probably not no they did not that is so asinine and now you're on this video Nick Savin's rolling over in his you know he's not dead but his grave

Starting point is 03:14:48 and I wonder if it's something where they were like they're supposed to be decoys so they can do they can do whatever they want but that's just capping for them and now the fact that they're just on video doing this looking dumb whether they thought it was going to be cool or fun I hope you got you got your little TikTok moment you want it

Starting point is 03:15:05 dude TikTok is the worst seriously I know we're on TikTok but like worse no it's just the worst I learn a lot of I learn a lot of good stuff on like dances no like like every day like stuff to help you and you know who's learned a lot about you China China okay and you just eating it up

Starting point is 03:15:24 Apple knows about us. China has the data to all your... Better than China. China. You know? And TikTok to me is just a... I mean, look at what it's making people do.

Starting point is 03:15:37 That's clown show stuff. Yeah, bro. It's clout. We talked about it. Clout's the biggest drug in America right now. Avoided at all costs. Hands down. You in the chat, please avoid clout.

Starting point is 03:15:48 I have seen clout drive people in the media world over the last two weeks to do ridiculous things. Insin. Okay? I've seen some ridiculous things. in the past six months in the media. Clout has taken over this country. Clout.

Starting point is 03:16:02 It's the most dangerous drug in the world. Easy. Yeah. Two games tonight. Nate, you got a first touchdown score on that MGM. Oh, I got a special one for everyone. First touchdown score today. It might be odd, but we're going with someone who currently has no stats for Ravens.

Starting point is 03:16:19 And we're going with a plus 8,000 bet with Patrick Ricard, first. touchdown. He is the intricate part of their offense. He doesn't get the ball. But tonight, I feel like is a good spot that he might get the ball for the first touchdown of the game. Help Lamar out. And that's

Starting point is 03:16:39 what I'm going to go with. Let's go Pat Ricard. Don't ask me how the game's going to go. Because I know that I can't win if I say the Buccaneers are going to keep it close. But I think they might, Matt. I hope they don't. Close is fine. Like four points close. 28, 24 Ravens.

Starting point is 03:16:55 now see if you did just on money line i know but you got bro a hundred k what's the first thing you're going to buy i don't think i'd do anything different you just you just save it yeah that's so boring all right but you got to come to work you win you still got to come to work i'll be here okay good okay that's awesome all right chat we appreciate you facts Bo, Nolan, Reed, the whole gang. Thank you. Thank you for tuning in once again for our live show.

Starting point is 03:17:33 Come back Friday at 9.30 a.m. for our next live show, which will be the preview of this week's games. We're going to call Carolina and see if Chris can play for the Panthers. I actually changed my line. You don't want to play for the team. We'll pick a different team this week. Because they might say yes. Yeah.

Starting point is 03:17:51 Hey, Cleveland, when you train. We've been waiting on your call. yeah exactly this is great news i'm telling dave right now uh-huh has he sworn off masturbation yet yeah he just did on the show take care everybody

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