Green Light with Chris Long - NFL WK8 Recap: Jaire Alexander vs Stefon Diggs, NFC Playoff Picture & Dolphins Survive.
Episode Date: October 31, 2022(2:04) - Housekeeping: America's Teams & Lane Kiffin. (17:16) - Buffalo Bills vs Green Bay Packers: Jaire Alexander vs Stefon Diggs, GB Running Game & Josh Allen Staying Engaged. (26:24) - NFC Playoff... Picture: Giants vs Seahawks, Vikings vs Cardinals, Eagles vs Steelers, Cowboys vs Bears & 49ers vs Rams. (50:43) - AFC Battles: Patriots vs Jets, Dolphins vs Lions & Broncos vs Jaguars. (1:11:21) - One Word NFL Games: Falcons vs Panthers, Saints vs Raiders, Colts vs Commanders & Titans vs Texans. (1:30:07) - Miller Lite Mentions! (1:48:40) - Nicole Auerbach on CFB WK9: Tennessee Dominates Kentucky, CFB Playoffs & Tennessee vs Georgia in WK10. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. https://www.greenlightpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome to the spooky greenlight podcast.
NFL week
8 recap with Chris, Kyle, and
Macon. The NSC playoff picture
is taking shape. We see some young
quarterback struggle what we're going to make from the
play of Tua, Mac, and Zach.
Russ starts a simmer.
Can he cook? And at the end of the show, we've got
our usual Miller Light mentions
college football catch up with Nicole
Arabeck. Y'all enjoy.
I don't know how to start the show this morning.
I guess we'll do it with America's teams.
I love that. Yeah?
I love that. Yeah?
Kyle,
You want to lead us off?
I would love to lead us.
Oh, first time leading us off.
Yeah.
Okay, well, I'm feeling a bit attacked this morning.
My first America's team is Michigan State for jumping those guys.
If you look behind me, there's a chart.
If you fuck around, you'll find out.
Definitely Michigan found out.
Did you see Jim Harbar running away?
Yeah, khakis.
Yeah, yeah.
That hallway is like not where you want to walk.
That's like a bottom five place that I want to walk.
Never stray from your team unless you have a real plan.
plan if there's an altercation.
Those guys straight from their team, Michigan State, America's team.
There was like a game day operations manager with a headset on, just like waiting for it to be over.
This is fine.
Everything's fine.
It's happened.
He's seen it before.
Yeah.
He's seen it before, but not publicly.
Number two, I've got Ross Chastain and Trackhouse, Wall Ride to pass Denny Hamlin.
Pitbull, very happy.
Pit bull very happy.
What happened?
Is that yours?
Yes.
I told you when I walked in this morning.
I had it run down before then, though.
That's fine.
We can share it.
So I can change it really quick.
No, we can share it.
I have another one.
It's fine.
I don't know how to react it.
I have another one.
No, you're fine.
Okay.
Got it.
Got it.
Number three, the Tennessee volunteers in all black.
I know a lot of people didn't like the Tennessee volunteers in all black.
But I think it's good.
Is that another one of your team?
Yeah, they're on my America's teams, but no problem.
Okay.
Well, I'm stepping all over everybody right now.
This is very American of me taking other people's things.
Yeah.
And that's okay.
Okay, number four, the New York City Marathon USA runners.
Track house is my Guam, you imperialist asshole.
Well, I'm here for it.
It's nice here, okay?
I walked in this morning, I'm like, hey, I got track house on my America's team.
He's like, okay, I can help you explain that.
Because they're on my team too.
No, he didn't say that.
I didn't say that.
So New York City Marathon this week, the U.S. contingency is going to try to win, you know, the World Cup of running.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's a long race.
It's a long race.
G.W. Bridge.
And number five, Ole Miss.
Wait, hold on.
on who's the American team, just everyone running in the fucking America?
The Americans that are running against the other country people.
That's good.
And, you know, that's, what's more American than that?
The Ryder Cup.
And number five, Ole Miss, because I love Lane Kiffin.
I love that they made the flight out to Kyle Field and beat their ass,
and I am a loud hater of Texas A&M.
Texas A&M.
I just hate them.
And Jimbo Fisher had a lot of choice words to say about Nick Sator.
and he was on my originals America's team list week one.
And I take that to heart when you attack one of my guys.
You know what I love about Lane Kiffin?
He forgets that he's like a 50 year old man all the time.
Like he did like I want to be like Lane Kiffin.
Like age is nothing but a number for him.
Did you see him walk over to that Texas A&M player and just fucking dress him up and down like
like he was a college wide receiver talking to a DB?
He said go fucking fake an injury.
Yeah, dude.
Yeah.
Because all their guy.
How many guys read?
went down for Texas A&M.
There were eight injuries all on defense.
Luckily they got 12 people.
He's like, don't fucking fake an injury.
He changes his clothes at halftime.
Does he really?
Yeah.
I love the guy, dude.
I love the guy.
I always tell the story when I visited the Raiders and was walking through their,
you know, the draft in the draft process, Kyle, and the coaches were like,
we'll have you meet Lane, the head ball coach.
We walk up to him in the hallway.
He's like, looks good.
We'll take him and keeps walking.
like not not engaged in the process at all that was my intro to lane kiff he turned me down
for a scholarship coming out of junior college he said we have no room for junior college offensive
did he really yeah he did where was you coaching at USC USC USC and I drove up there and I was like hey
I'll come here I don't even want money to come here like you know I just want to play how is wax
and surfboards we don't have any room for junior college offensive alignment how you were
wax and surfboards at the time sex wax baby you're seriously that's what you're
I was fixing sector nine skateboards and like fixing ball bearings and folding jeans and
Jack surfboard.
Did you mean any like Kelly Slater type?
Yeah, well, the guy from Green Day came in one day.
Really?
The main guy from Green Day and I sold him some jeans.
He couldn't have been cooler.
Yeah.
Couldn't have been cooler.
Wow.
Green Day.
Good riddance.
Why don't you go make?
Yeah, that's good.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
The Georgia Bulldogs.
All right.
They beat the doors off.
Everybody they play, save for Missouri.
Kirby Smart, he's got the haircut of a guy holding your ankles at the K.A.
Keg stand, you know?
We just, we got great kids.
Yeah, he does.
We got great kids.
And Georgia, my America's team's got Tennessee this coming week, y'alls.
Uh-huh.
America's teams.
Go dogs.
Oh.
That's a lot of points, man.
Ten points.
That's a bad, bad Leroy, Brown.
Baddest man
The whole damn town
Meener than a junkyard dog
Some men
Bigger than an old king calm
There you go, you got it
You got it.
Georgia Bulldogs
Number one team in the country
Merrick's team
The Seattle Seahawks
Are fun as hell
They're five and three
Much fun
Kenneth Walker I think is my favorite
player in NFL
Yeah guys awesome
I'm surprised
DK played
DK played well
Tyler Lockett played well
That you know
This was everybody's favorite
To have the least wins
in the fewest wins in the NFL
and they're 5 and 3.
Good shit up there in the
pack northwest, as I like to say.
Hey, the Cleveland Cavaliers
5 and 1, you kidding me?
You kidding me? They're starting
a guy named D. Wade.
First name's Dean.
Uh-huh.
He went to K-State, more on that
and a bit. Dunovan
Mitchell, as I like to say, Karras Levert.
Yeah. Fine player.
MVP candidate Donovan Mitchell.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Evan Mowgli's fun.
Jared Allen, they're five and one.
That's spider, right?
Yeah, Spider-Man.
They're wearing the old
Cavs logo where there's a net
inside the V.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's hella cool.
Yeah.
With their new-ish colors.
But they're great.
And I will add K-State to the list.
K-State beat Oak State 48-0, I think.
I was insane.
What happened in that game?
I don't know.
Spencer Sanders played on that.
I can't remember.
I don't remember much of what Steve says
on Fridays.
Yeah.
Thursdays, Fridays.
But K-State,
shout out,
six and two,
now number 13 in the country.
It's got to be tough
to be a school that's never won
a national title.
I think there are only two of them.
It's tech.
Kansas State and Virginia Tech,
Virginia Polytechnic Institute
down there in Blacksburg, Virginia.
But K-State, unlike tech,
which is two and six,
K-state's six and two,
kind of the inverse there.
And, hey, hey,
Let's name our favorite K-State players.
I know Chris's names El Roberson.
El Roberson's amazing.
NCAA football.
Yeah, that's right.
And Darren Sprouls were unfair.
Michael Bishop.
Martine Gramatica.
Oh, grammatica is a, he spent time in the little apple.
I've got a few.
How about that line back?
Cody Whitehair.
Great K-State player.
Yeah.
Ben Lieber.
Yeah, Terence Newman.
Who could forget?
CB4.
C-B-4.
And we will wrap up.
We'll go right back to the great state of Georgia and the Atlanta Falcons, who dodged
Eddie Panero, DJ Moore, on sportsman-like, eh?
You got to leave your lid on.
Leave your lid on, dude.
We'll talk about that.
Leave your lid on.
That was a thrilling 30 minutes, dude.
My America's teams.
Okay, number one, My America's teams are the Philadelphia Phillies.
Shocker.
You might call it pandering, but they're talking.
with the Astros. Game one, they fucking, you know, the Astros blew a five, nothing lead.
I was at a Halloween party Friday night. Okay, so Meg was lazy as fuck and didn't have a costume.
So she went as, she was like, let me borrow your Phillies jersey because they play tonight.
And all I had lying around the house was a fucking astronaut, you know, an astronaut costume.
And I was like, you know, I could wear this and we could go as the World Series, right?
I put a trash can around my neck, that sort of thing.
But I told my mom and my lovely wife
that people will think I'm rooting for the Houston Astros.
What's the jury say on that?
Yeah, I guess.
Good decision that I didn't do that.
I like the World Series framing.
Okay.
You could also, you could tell the story to the people who ask.
Boy, do I not want to.
You know what I mean?
And then the Phillies, though, they're tied 1-1.
That series is going back to Philly.
It's going to be electric.
if anybody has World Series tickets
and could give them to me and my family,
that's the only way I'll go up for a game.
You know, people are like,
why don't you come up to a game?
I'm like, well,
World Series tickets aren't exactly
falling off the back of a fucking truck.
So just let me know if you got four decent tickets.
What if they asked you to throw out a first pitch?
Wow.
I've been known to do that.
Nervie or?
I've been known to do that.
I'm pretty good at that.
I have a wrap under my belt.
You threw it right down the middle in Charlottesville,
but Philadelphia.
Philadelphia,
much some people might remember me almost sending a World War II veteran I threw a dirtball
in my opportunity did you out of first pitch I hit the plate and you were hard oh I threw it hard
I went from the mouth we'll wind up but it was you know it's harder to get out there and do that
yeah well you don't want to bounce it Kyle that's that's not what I did you don't want to rip
your mic off I'm good I'm good but I'm I'm adaptable also how about the little kid that went viral
the Phillies kid the little kid he was yelling at like an Astros fan in during game one and he went
viral. He was home the next day for his noon football game. The kid's five years old,
okay? You know, and if you time it up, he was born during the Eagles Super Bowl run in 2017.
His name is Carson. Wow. The kid's name is Carson. Wow. So Philly's number one of my
America's team. Spat those ankles, Carson. Rankings. So number two, I've got the Eagles.
The Eagles, they look great yesterday. We'll talk about
that in a little bit. Number three, and this is guys, you're going to want to hear this one. This is
funny. I couldn't wait to roll this one out. I thought it was really clever. Track house racing.
Yeah. Yeah. Track house racing. It's the, it's the racing team that who's this fucking guy's name?
Ross Chastain. He thought he was playing a video game out there. He said that he used to play
Nintendo GameCube and he wasn't even sure that the move that worked in the video game would work at
Martinsville, but he needed to win the race or something to get in the final four, right?
Yeah, the championship four.
And if you look at it, it looks, the first dozen times that I watched this, Chris, it looked
like it was sped up.
We've all seen a million of these NASCAR highlights, and all the cars are going relatively
the same speed.
He's in top gear.
These guys are heavy braking at Martinsville.
It's a short track, notorious with high-speed straits, and then getting on the brakes
and standing at the bottom, Chastain rides the wall the whole way around.
Kyle Larson was pissed about it
Denny Hamlin was salty about it
Fuck Denny Hamlin
But he's from Richmond
You know we don't hate Denny
Entirely I do
Okay okay
A lot of people do so yeah
Chris track house that makes sense
That makes sense Chris
His little car in the room
Yeah no track house racing
They're gonna be one of America's teams
And they took us into their trailer
Chris when we went to Richmond
Yeah who do we spend a lot of time with
We spent time with Daniel Suarez
Who couldn't have been nicer to us
He was the coolest fucking guy ever
Those guys have the best game day experience, those trailers.
Like, if you want to be left alone, like, that's a good place to be left alone.
That's awesome.
NASCAR just invited you guys to the 2023 Chicago Street Race, by the way.
Wow.
They did?
Wow.
How?
Like a fucking parchment and like our contact from Richmond.
She got promoted to Chicago and emailed us.
How about that?
What's the date on that?
July?
I don't know.
We'll find out.
June or July, I believe?
Is it the springtime race?
Okay.
Number four.
The Liberty.
The Flames, Liberty Football team, they beat BYU, 41, 14.
They're basically, they're kind of like mirror image schools, right?
4114, interesting, mirror image scores.
And ultimately, excuse me, more Christians than Mormons in the United States.
So that's a big win for the United States.
They end up in the America's teams rankings this week.
I watched last night, I was actually making my America's teams list.
And I think God put the Liberty Flames late night show.
on my TV. It's a local broadcast.
You ever watch that thing?
No, no, I don't.
Okay, well, sometimes I watch it.
State media.
After Sunday night football,
and it was like, you know,
Hugh Freeze talking about how God
blessed his game plan.
Thank God.
I've seen it before.
It's a good show.
They do a good job.
They do a good job.
You know, but Liberty, you know,
is one of America's teams this week.
They did beat the,
they beat the dog shit out of
spare the rod, spoil the child.
That's what they were.
were thinking when
BYU came to town.
Have they overtaken
Notre Dame for God's
team?
That's a good question.
God's independent team.
That's a good question, Kyle.
And then the Tennessee
volunteers rounding out my list.
Huh.
We need them to beat,
yeah, yeah.
We need them to beat Georgia.
We need them to beat Georgia.
America needs them to beat Georgia.
No offense.
Because I don't want to see
a red on red
SEC championship again,
a bunch of red teams
in the fucking playoffs,
a bunch of SEC,
you know,
grandfathered in
teams in the playoffs.
Let's some new blood, man.
I got a theory about all this red.
What?
That pigskin got like a little, like a reddish hue to it.
Orange just red, yeah.
A lot of RPO, harder to see.
I think the red uni is a, is a competitive advantage.
Honestly, a team like the Browns, there's no reason they shouldn't be winning.
Just run a college offense.
It makes it even more embarrassing.
Hold the mesh as long as you can.
That's right.
Chris, do you think if Hendon Hooker and Tennessee beats Alabama or Georgia this coming
week that Henan Hooker's QB1.
QB1 in the draft?
Like if he goes out and balls out.
I don't know. I think people are in love with the Ohio State guy, right?
So, I mean, Hooker could climb the ranks.
I mean, no, Hooker.
Heisman, yeah, right?
Hooker's made himself some money this year.
Like, he's going to get drafted in the first couple rounds.
Yeah.
Yep.
That's an industry that's kind of bulletproof.
They use that body.
Yep, yep, yep.
Okay, so those are America's teams.
Guys, last name is Hooker.
Yep, that's good.
Barely newer.
Okay, so, indeed.
So, Sunday night football was interesting, man.
Here's what was interesting about it.
Me and Megan were texting the whole night,
and I know some people get tired of the gambling.
Talk, by the way, Chase Long yesterday, 11 and 5 on the day.
He's back.
He's back, 3 and 0 in teasers.
Eat your heart out sharp.
all the little fucking, the little smug gamblers out there
that think their lifetime 60% winners
telling me what I shouldn't do.
You farm your own fucking land.
Okay, I gotta feed my family with these tickets.
And if I wanna roll some teasers out there
because I'm scared to death after Monday night,
so be it.
The under hit last night.
The total was 47.
There were 24 points scored in the second.
And I texted make and I said it's dead.
And by the way, this was cool.
We reciprocated this deal yesterday.
Like I was on the Colts.
I wasn't going to bet the Colts, but you told me on Friday's show,
I like Washington.
And I was dog cussing you until Heineke threw that jump ball up.
You were on the commies.
I was on the commies.
I tailed you.
And then, you know, you wanted some action Sunday night.
So I texted you, let's do the under.
And I felt kind of like an asshole during the second quarter.
But boy, that thing grinded to a whole.
As you predicted.
As I predicted.
At halftime, error was going to be taken out of the ball.
Dobbs and Diggs did us no favors in the first half.
But yeah, that was a hold on to your butt sort of under.
In the words of Dr. Fax, when a plan comes together.
I was just watching that shit.
I could not believe it.
The fourth down stops, the field goals, the turnovers.
One thing in this game, you know, Josh Allen, you know,
bills were down a couple offensive linemen, I think,
and Josh Allen saw a lot of pressure the first half.
half and he delivered. I mean the second half he got kind of fucking bored. I feel like Josh
Allen had like video game idas where you get bored and you're up and you try to you try to do too
much. You throw a couple picks. You miss on third and seven. He inexplicably floated a ball over
Gabe Davis's head rolling right. They gave the Packers the ball back in a two score game in the
fourth quarter. It was like they were so relaxed. They had this game so in hand. And then all of a
sudden you look up and you're like you know if the packers were halfway decent this could be a
ball game because josh allen wasn't making throws in second half but in the first half boy oh boy like
some of the throws to digs that touchdown on the right on the right side line and the ends on there
34 yards flick of the wrist off his back foot with jaron reed in his face you know the deep ball to
digs he looked really sharp in that first half and that's all they needed the packers can't score
the packers can't score and and milano and those linebackers were flying and
around. The Packers got the
run game going. Yeah, they did. But it's
just not enough, dude. You can't keep pace.
You know, I know
the Packers, you come out of this game
and you say, oh, there's some things we
can hang our hat on. The run game
got better. A couple of those circus
catches from Dobbs, who's
a fucking stud. Whoever gets to
throw the ball to Dobbs over the next five years
in Green Bay is pretty lucky. And I don't know if it's
going to be Aaron Rogers. And the
panic sets in
when it comes to the Packers. We were talking about the
running game, six and a half,
6.7 yards of carry for the Packers.
You can run the ball effectively,
but when you're playing a team like Josh Allen's
bills, you know that it's not going to be a running
type game and you're going to have to rely on throwing the
ball and forcing throws.
And credit to the bills,
offensive line, Aaron Cromer, the guy who drafted me
in Chicago is the O-line coach up there.
They've run for 100 games plus,
100 yards plus in almost every game.
And I know Josh Allen does it a lot on his
feet with his legs, but
they can run the ball at will. And sometimes
when you can't block guys in the past
because of a skill gap,
you can rely on technique in the run game.
And I think that the bills know that.
They can't be relaxed at the end of games.
Because somebody's going to come around
and put up those two scores with six minutes left,
with eight minutes left.
And they're going to be in that ball game.
That's my fear for them against the Chiefs.
So third down efficiency,
actually the Packers weren't that bad.
They were six of 12.
The bills two of seven.
But it is hard to play keep away for some reason for this team.
I mean, like, you know, playing keep away, probably not the answer with the bills.
I mean, they can really put up points in a hurry, and they did in the first half.
And at that point, it's not sustainable for the Packers.
Jaira Alexander, I want to mention this.
I mean, another tunnel.
Him and him and Stefan Diggs were tunnel buddies.
And that's the tunnel that, like, I forgot that everybody comes out and walks in at the same time.
I can remember playing the bills.
It's a hallway.
It's a hallway, yeah.
and I walked in next to Rex Ryan.
We were awkwardly walking next to each other for a long time
after we just beat the dog shit of the bills.
And all I could say was a good game, Rex.
You know, like, and you know, it can go the other way too now.
And in pregame, him and digs,
jarring at each other.
And for Alexander, last week, you know,
we mentioned this on the show.
Heineke went right at him in big situations.
McLaurin, who's an absolute dog,
you know, went up and got it in 50s.
50-50 ball situations yesterday.
Two weeks in a row, great by him.
But Alexander wanted to have a get-back game
against the best receiver in the league.
And when he did cover him, zero catches, zero yards.
He was on Gabe Davis a lot.
Honestly, I don't know why the Packers have certain guys
covering digs in the slot.
That was a big question mark to me
from a game plan standpoint.
But Jaya Alexander, who looked great,
yellow sleeves, high whites, that looked fucking awesome,
look good, play good.
You know, he did a great job on everybody he covered
and he had a pick. So that was a big time night from him.
Just don't go celebrate the pick when you're down by 17 or whatever.
I think in a situation like that, I know,
but in a situation like that,
there's been so much back and forth,
so much individual, you know,
trash talk between him and Diggs and Davis
and seemingly everybody.
You can get lost in the sauce,
a little bit. You forget the score.
Down 2710 in the fourth quarter.
Yeah, well, you know what?
Let's run 60 yards to the camera in the end zone.
Yeah, you know what?
Yeah, you're right.
Okay.
But I think they should pick a wide receiver
and a DB every game and be like,
you guys have to fight.
You guys have to hate each other
because I love it when there's a good corner,
wide out battle.
Like bucks, saints, we love seeing those matchups.
Latimore Evans.
There's nothing like that.
It's wrestling, dude.
And also throw Josh Allen in the mix
because early in the game,
Josh Allen had the run up the left sideline
where Adrian Amos comes from the center field position and leads.
And he's one of the heaviest hitting safeties in the league.
He put a shot on Josh Allen.
Josh Allen popped up like a blocking dummy with his shoulder pad.
Taryn Sharpe talking shit.
I was like, this is kind of telling about this game.
That's the best shot you're going to give Josh Allen with a running start
and he gets up talking shit.
I'm like, the bills are just tough.
How about that mustache Josh Allen's boring?
Oh, my God.
What a creep.
Yeah, he's his creep show.
In the best way.
You guys see these Lopez versus Lopez promos?
Nah.
That show looks like a riot.
Oh, it does.
Yeah.
Coming up next.
Not.
Coming up next, George Lopez.
I mean, how can Rissillo not get a show made for fuck's sake?
This George Lopez rolls out of bed and gets a new pilot.
I mean, they couldn't fire off a joke in the highlight clip.
I've read some of Riscilla's screenplays.
Yeah.
They're pretty good.
Yeah.
They're pretty good, dude.
I'm kind of incredulous myself.
All right.
Maybe he can get a job on the,
Lopez versus Lopez writing.
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How about talking about two winning teams,
playing each other because there was only one such pairing yesterday.
Your New York Giants and the Seattle Seahawks,
one of your America's team.
So frustrating. It was classy of you.
Thank you.
Frustrating.
You know, my takeaway here, Seattle could have won by more.
Seattle left a lot of points on the field here,
whether was Gino just missing,
or Matt Calf not going up with two hands in the first half
to catch that ball on the left sideline,
whether it was Lockett not getting two feet.
feet in bounds on a beautiful throw in the red zone from Gino Smith,
whether it was Lockett getting hit in the face with the football
at the right pylon.
There was a ton of stuff.
I mean, Lockett fumbling the ball in the shadow of their own goal line.
They made some mistakes.
Now, I know Richie James fumbled the ball twice,
and that's terrible, especially because Cadarious Tony used to return some puns
into the whole thing.
But Seattle is pretty good, man.
And the defense, they're playing team defense.
you know, yesterday they were.
They haven't always been great this year,
but they're rounding into form a little bit
where you get unheralded rushers like Nuwosu.
You got your transplant from Denver,
Shelby Harris, running down Daniel Jones on a third and nine,
short of the sticks.
Big play late in the game.
Getting in a stop on second and ten to force third and nine.
The corners, so you're not hearing about so much
because people aren't throwing at them.
You know, like that defense is playing hard.
They're playing at home.
They're always going to play tough.
The better the Seahawks get, the tougher the 12s are, dude.
Like, you could hear it.
The noise made a difference in that game yesterday.
And Seattle left some points on the board and still won.
Give credit to their O-line, too.
I think they're top eight in the league in time before pressure on Gino-Smith.
You know, obviously, big credit to Gino for making the throws that they need when they call on him.
And also, shout out to D.K.
I know he left on the cart.
I'm not sure exactly what happened the week before with, you know, we're not in the training room.
but he was out there playing and it shows tremendous toughness to be out there.
Yep.
He was an easy go this week.
Easy go.
I thought he was going to be a golf cart.
Oh, an easy go.
Yeah.
That's good.
You never know why he leaves the field.
He's either shitting or he's injured.
Yeah.
What's going on with him?
But you guys need to go get a receiver, man.
No, no, no, no, no.
What?
Listen, no Evan Neal, no Breddison, no Ojoari, I.R.
No O'Shaen-Zemines.
as buy a week comes out a great time for the Giants.
They're really banged up.
Yeah, no Shepherd, no Tony, no Goliday.
Right.
And which one of those guys is going to emerge in the second half of the season?
Because one of them's in Kansas City.
I just, all right, just let me get veto power on the deal.
I just don't want to give up many assets.
Who says no?
Chase Claypool for two.
For two?
Yeah, that's what you're right.
I say no.
Yeah, okay.
I say no.
I throw somebody else out there.
But I did.
DJ Moore.
With a helmet.
With a helmet.
Yeah.
I think of this group, yeah, DJ more for a three.
Okay, deal.
Yeah, I'm watching the game and they weren't great on third down.
Interestingly, it feels like in the second half when they get in third and long,
Daniel Jones is pretty money, those couple balls to Slayton.
But like, I'm watching an offense that can't stretch the field.
Yeah.
Everything's underneath.
Every game is 13, 13 in the fourth quarter.
You can't.
Every single game.
Bellinger was a big loss.
Bellinger, eye injury, sucks.
Yeah.
He didn't play.
Eye injury.
Yeah.
What happened?
Claceration.
Got hit an eye.
With what?
You know what?
No, I don't know.
What did he get hit with?
I don't know.
A finger?
So anyways, you know, I think the Giants could use a little help.
I think Seattle, you mentioned that O line cross in those rookies, man.
They did a good job.
It was interesting.
Go back and look at Tibido and those tackles.
Like, they did a really good job.
If you're, I'm not taking shots at Tibido, what I am saying, though, is, you know, when you've got rookies playing against rookies, I can remember when Jake Long and I played each other, my rookie year, and we're both top five picks.
You're just, you want to look good. You know what I mean? You want to, you want to show out because it's an easy comp, and those tackles looked really good. But they left a lot of points on the board, and they're a good team. They haven't had a back like this since Beast Mode, man. He's so entertaining to watch.
He runs very unique.
Yes.
Like he's a unique runner.
He kind of shuffles and, you know, he's probably bigger than you think.
Like I'd love to, of any player, I think with a lot of NFL players, you don't know what their stature is until you stand on the field.
Like what bigger or smaller.
And I'd love to stand on the field and see kind of how Kenneth Walker sizes up.
Because that guy, he's got power.
He's elusive.
He breaks tackles.
That run that sealed the game for them a little bit of everything.
the cut back, the breaking an ankle tackle, the running through an arm tackle.
List of 5-9-2-12.
He probably looks like a tank on the field.
I just really wanted to see the Giants have an opportunity.
I picked the Giants, and I wanted to see them have an opportunity at the end of the game,
but that muff punt really threw a fucking wrench in my plan.
Oh, yeah.
I was very bent out of shape.
Well, that one wasn't the muck.
I was not.
I was not.
I was not.
The tackle, and Richie got concussed on the play.
Well, the punt was unsuccessful.
Didn't Richie dropped two of them?
The punt return was unsuccessful.
just by kind of running into them and then second one is where the concussion happened yeah yeah yep yep
yeah yeah bellinger got a finger to the eye okay finger to the eye okay hey this is more like the legion of
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quandre digs so um also Bruce Irvin out there you know like a little
shot of nostalgia there. It is
cool. West Virginia is showing out. It's cool to have somebody like Bruce
Irvin because he's like the institutional memory
on that defense. You know, there's
not a lot of guys anymore on that defense
that were there when they were really rolling.
And Bruce Irving got old quick, right?
That's how it goes in the NFL. But he
cannot, not only offer something on the field
because he was in the back field a good bit,
but he can kind of tell these guys how to
practice, how they, you know, how Cam
Chancellor used to practice, how Earl Thomas
used to practice. How Michael Bennett used to line up
anywhere. Yeah, Michael Bennett used to just do
whatever the fuck you wanted.
So the question for me, guys,
those are two of the best teams in the NFC,
according to their records.
I'm going to name four teams
that had big wins yesterday.
Which one do you feel like
was the biggest in that you learned a lot
and you should feel the best about
if you're an NFC elite?
We have the Rams getting beat by the Niners.
We have the Eagles beating the Steelers.
We have, who else do we have?
Minnesota.
We have Minnesota beating Arizona.
And that's who I think is...
Go ahead.
You think that's the most impressive win from an NFC league.
Philadelphia, we're dead set on Philadelphia being studs.
But I think that the Vikings, although it's a lot of the same characters out there,
it's a new regime.
I've loved what I've seen from Kevin O'Connell's offense.
And also Zadarius Smith has been a huge addition on their defense.
He had two sacks yesterday.
And in that game also, it was pretty cool.
I've got to give a shout to Hopkins, obviously, 800 receptions, 138 games.
They look methodical on offense.
Minnesota does.
They can run the ball with Dalvin Cook.
They can be explosive.
So they have that complimentary polarity offensively.
And I think O'Connell has that,
has breathed a lot of confidence into Kirk Cousins.
Obviously, we've got to see them to have success in the primetime games.
But I think this team is built as such that they can win in those games now.
Yeah, no question.
This guy's been lights out as a head coach.
I think, you know, they've quietly amassed what,
seven wins now or six wins now.
You know, one loss being to the Eagles.
And ironically, they had a bad game playing that game defensively.
And it was a prime time game, which isn't fair.
No, yeah.
Kirk, Kurt prefers 1 p.m.
So, you know, I thought that was a good win and all that.
I think I bet the Cardinals at four and a half, and that was extremely frustrating.
Well, the turnover got you.
I'm thinking about putting them on the do not bet list with Jacksonville, but.
It felt like they had a million possessions down eight after Joseph missed that extra point.
3426. They just kept moving it to like the 30.
Yep. Couldn't do them anymore. And the way the game ended if you're you know
like Kyler getting sacked and that sort of stuff like the clock management it just
it was frustrating. I can imagine being a Cardinals fan. I mean like it's it's got to be a
roller coaster ride. Who would you out of those wins? I mean also if they're Dallas in
there because they looked really good. Dallas is my answer because Dallas seemed for the
first time dependable yeah because you don't know you didn't know what you're
getting from DAC just because he's he hasn't been playing and they put up
49 points and Tony Pollard for heaven's sakes is clearly the best back on that
team good to make some money and still on that rookie deal
contract year not making that much money and when when Zeke is healthy okay
yeah put them between the tackles but Pollard is is dynamic but they score so
many points I learned more about Dallas than I did a team like
Philly just because
already thought they were elite.
I think Minnesota's solid
and Arizona is, I don't know
what Arizona is. And Seattle beats
a really banged up New York team and those are
two probably above average
but not great teams. Dallas is a team where I was like
okay, this is a
not only a playoff team but a team that has some juice because of that
defense but now the offense can, if the office can put up
points like that, all right, that's the CD
Lamb we thought we were going to see.
Good connection with Dalton Schultz.
Dallas is my answer to your problem.
And go look at Dak Prescott's shot chart, so to speak, yesterday.
I mean, like, so efficient.
The guy is incredibly efficient.
And, you know, the top end speed of that offense,
not only with Pollard taking a lot of snaps,
I mean, I know he's not a great protector in the past game,
but that top end speed that they can get to, 49 points.
I don't think they scored over 25 with Cooper Rush,
which, you know, sheds light on how ridiculous that whole, you know,
conversation was. I mean, Cooper
Rush is a great backup. He's
a great commodity on a team like that that's
set up to win with a backup. Their defense
stepped up over that span of time.
And in this game, like, they had
to score. Like Chicago was scoring.
Chicago was scoring. And until that
Michael Parsons' fumble return for a touchdown, which,
again, we just talked about Michael Parsons and hustle.
We just talked about it last week. I had a chance
to interview Dan Quinn for 33rd team.
And I asked him, have you
had that wow play yet? Because
a month ago after the
Bengals game, somebody in the media pool
asked him like, you know, you coached in Seattle,
you know, you've seen
championship defense.
Have you had one of those plays yet
where you just go, wow, we are pretty good?
And Dan,
and it's the answer I wanted him to have, was
like, yeah, a week ago with Micah
Parsons running down the tight end
at the pylon there.
And 10-6, you know, Detroit's about
to go up 13-6, and you
lived a fight another day and Tank Lawrence
blows up a play and you got the ball back.
So his hustle
does not go unnoticed.
And there are very few guys
defensively who are the best players on the field
and play the hardest. And he ran
by four guys to get to that pylon.
He was the only guy
on the field that seemed to know that the ball was live.
Justin Fields didn't know. And I think Justin
Fields takes a lot of shit for jumping over
Micah Parsons, but look at the guys around
him. Nobody knew the ball was
live. Micah Parsons knew the ball was
live. He was the only person. So it should be more
about Michael Parsons and his tremendous athleticism, his hustle and his awareness.
He looked like Ross Chastain passing up all those folks with the football. He did. He's like,
I've seen this in a video game. Look damn near like brandy chastain on that P.K. Yeah.
Are you too, are you too young for that? Sports brawl? I know sports bra. I know
sports bar slide to the knees. Yeah, I was wondering when Michael Parsons took his shirt off.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So, so my answer is the Niners. Okay. And I know that like I'm kind of manifesting
here and I'm speaking into existence, but this is the week that people are going to start
talking about the Niners. Look around, listen. People are going to be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're
really good. Like, you know, when a week ago is like, oh, they're not that good. They're underachieving,
they're all this stuff. Jimmy G's not that good. And I know it's the Rams. I know you beat them
eight straight times, but they had their backs against the walls here going into the buy.
Three and five looks incredibly different than four and four, right? Especially with the Seahawks
playing inexplicably very good.
And they're in the driver's seat in the
NFC West. But if you're the Niners,
you've got to feel pretty good because you beat the dog shit
out of the Seahawks. You go into the by,
you get Trent Williams back a week ago.
You're going to get Debo Samuel back. You're going to
get Jennings back. You're going to get Armstead
back. You're going to get Kinlaw back.
You're going to get all these motherfuckers back. And people don't want to see
the Niners. So I really believe
in the NFC, I know that the Vikings have reeled
off a bunch of wins. I know that the Vikings have reeled off
a bunch of wins. I know that the Giants are good. They have a better record than the Niners.
I know that a lot of these teams are ahead of the Niners right now. But when I judge a team,
I want to know in my brain what they look like in December and January. And this team,
fully healthy with Christian McCaffrey in the fold. And, you know, a lot of people say they got
fleece. Well, not this year, man, because this guy walks in and he gives you a different dimension.
And you saw it yesterday. They were down 7-0. They were down 14-7 at the half. You know,
they go to the half and I think Fred Warner said like,
we don't want to go into the buy like this.
So they go out in the second half.
And this is also a big,
big turning point,
not only for the team,
but for D'Amico Rines,
because a week ago,
you got all this head coaching talk
when Matt Ruhle got fired.
And people were like,
oh, the Niners blew a bunch of fucking coverages
and Patrick Mahomes is good.
Shocker.
Maybe this guy isn't a head coach.
Well, in the second half,
they made the adjustments necessary.
I believe they got in a little bit more sub
against 11 personnel,
got some of the linebackers off.
the field. And when
the Rams got to third down, they heated
them up. They had two possessions in the third quarter
I think it was,
and they were bookended. They bookended
a long San Francisco drive. They never
could get into a rhythm. Sixty-one yards
total for the Rams in the second half.
And the biggest play for the Rams
that they want back is they're down 10 at the
end of that ball game, middle of the fourth
quarter, and Higby drops the ball
inexplicably. He's still running
if he catches that football, and that's a totally
different ballgame. So hats off to the defense.
They played great the second half.
And Jimmy looked good, man.
Jimmy, the two throws he made, the one to McCaffrey in the end zone, which was a backyard
ball deal with McCaffrey.
He read left to right, the entire field went to McCaffrey, beautiful ball, the dagger to
Kittle in the end zone.
These are really good throws, and I think Jimmy G's getting a little healthier.
I don't want to fall for the pump fake because he always looks like Joe Montana against the Rams.
But the twisting of the knife for me is the fact that if you're the Rams, you've seen McCaffrey
now twice in a month.
You pursued him in the trade market.
And the big brother, little brother thing,
even though you have the Super Bowl,
Shanahan owns you,
he owns McCaffrey now.
And the first possession of the game
where they're down seven nothing
and they got a chance to go answer,
McCaffrey on third and seven
breaks a tailor-wrapped tackle
and then breaks a Jalen Ramsey tackle
short of the sticks,
gets the first down,
and keeps the drive alive
so he can throw that touchdown.
And like,
there's so many ways that he affects the game.
And the touchdown, you know, triple crown thing, overrated, dude.
Okay, like, what kind of a stat is that?
Like, McAfrey threw a touchdown.
Great.
Like, that's not what he does.
But you know what's not overrated, having that play on the fucking, on tape.
Because now every time you throw a swing pass to McAfrey,
the second level defenders are looking to that and saying,
it's like another element.
I don't want to be high guy here.
That's a good point, Chris.
But it is like another element.
It's, I don't know if it's the future of football.
I don't want to get too out ahead of myself here.
but like if you have a guy that can throw the football
and you motion him behind the quarterback
there are a ton of plays in today's NFL
where a pass goes backwards right slightly backwards
it's like Chase Claypool play yesterday too
yeah second level defenders
they got to think before they come downhill
and add to the to the run fit effectively
because that's a run play
maybe in 10 years we're looking at offense and saying like
that's another layer of the RPO you know like
it's a swing pass behind the quarterback
pass pass option you know
what I'm saying? Like it's, I would run this once every couple weeks and just, and just occupy eyes.
And it'll impact dozens of plays based on formation and pre-snap motion. To your point, Chris,
that's actually really, really a bright observation. Like a guy like McCaffrey, a guy like
shot guy like, yeah, you did, a guy like Claypool. You'd be the first to tell me. You can,
you can affect that second level, to your point. It's really all I'm trying to say. You can. And the
tight ends coach evidently three days ago dug up some film from 2018 where he threw a 50-yard touchdown.
for the Panthers and texted Shanahan and Shanahan was like fuck it let's put it in the
game plan on the game or on the day that McCaffrey through a 30 yard 30 plus air yard pass his
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so anyways we're gonna put the tarp down
then we're not gonna delay this podcast
we gotta play through this
but but
You know, the Niners can get into pony personnel now, which is fun to say.
Pony.
I love saying they're in Pony.
Like, it just sounds cool.
It sounds.
Christian McCaffrey is, he's a pony personnel looking ass dude.
Well, his dad is a Beville Conway winner in and of himself as a Bronco.
As a big white wide receiver.
And you see a guy like Christian McCaffrey.
He looked great in 23.
Every week.
And that jersey and that number and just like that.
You see his post game fit?
Nah.
It's like a cream colored turtle neck of something.
There's like a Marlon Bando.
It was like Marlon Brando off the pants.
Guys cool as hell.
So the Niners are fucking, they were never gone, but they're back, dude.
Like, I'm not, you know, that's a get well game for them.
And they're going to get well over the biweek.
So computers very important.
So Dallas, San Francisco, and Minnesota are our three.
Yeah, well, the Eagles, too.
I mean, yeah, those are our three.
Other than the Eagles.
You know why the Eagles are who I thought they were?
Exactly.
And you know why that's a big win?
I can remember, like, when we went on a run,
some of the teams that we beat handily that we were supposed to,
you know, that's as valuable as beating a good team
because in the NFL, any given week,
and you saw what happened to the box a couple weeks ago
when they let the Steelers hang around.
You know, dolphins let the Steelers hang around, right?
Okay, these are good teams, supposedly.
Fucking the Eagles, they blow the doors off these guys.
I stayed away from this game.
I didn't bet it because I didn't know if we'd have a backdoor cover or something.
AJ Brown looked incredible.
Jalen Hertz looks awesome.
Okay, you pair these throws with the leadership that he's always had.
I'm not saying I was wrong about the guy because I didn't think he was cheeks or anything.
I just didn't think he'd be this good.
I did not.
I had no idea that he'd be an MVP candidate.
I thought you surround him with pieces.
You can prop him up.
He'll learn.
Same.
His deep ball has always been pretty good.
What he's doing now and what AJ Brown has done so much for him is the intermediate passing game.
that sets everything up for them.
And I feel like he hits the whole team
with that men in black laser mind eraser
every week where he's like,
we're not that good.
We have to fucking show up in practice.
Forget everything.
And then you see him show up and AJ Brown
and J.L.Hertz set an early precedent
for what the offense is supposed to look like
in this game, right?
You know, you see the deep ball to AJ
and it's like, wow, like we are outmatched.
If I'm the other team, that's what I'm thinking.
Yeah, when he throws that jump ball up
to AJ Brown and he goes up and gets in the middle of the end zone.
Come on.
And by the way, the other touchdown, the long ball to the right pylon was on a fucking rope.
I mean, it was just in a bucket, dude.
And Pascal the Rascal?
Oh yeah, Pascal.
Got a little bit, got a little play.
ODIU guy, too, I found out yesterday.
So impressive wins by all those teams.
But for me, it was the Niners for y'all.
It was the Vikings and the Cowboys.
And I don't think there's a wrong answer.
Those are good teams.
The NFC playoffs are going to be interesting.
Niners at Eagles, NFC Championship.
I think so.
It's going to be awesome.
I think so.
Vikings?
Well, you know.
I think the Vikings are...
We have yet to see if Kirk Cousins can play in that process.
I want to see somebody test Kurtz-Chows, Cowboys.
He's like, well, I picked the Vikings at the beginning of the year, so I'm going to stick with
them.
Vikings, they're pretty good.
That's it.
They are who I thought they were going to be.
They're pretty good.
They're pretty good.
They're not great.
Yeah.
Pretty good, not great.
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We had a couple of AFC matchups or AFC big AFC wins.
start with
early in the morning
Sunday
which I love a morning game
makes for too long a day
do you think?
Yeah
I love it because it clears the dance
floor a little bit
you can feel the effect
on the 1 p.ms and the 4 p.ms
you can focus a little bit better
the one less game makes a big
difference
and I love waking up and getting some
brecky you know some American brecky
maybe watching tops on CBS sports
yeah watching that other
pregame show. Yeah, like one of the best in the business, Kyle Long out there in a suit,
telestrating. You know, so this game, I did bet the Jags. They're no longer on the,
they're on the do not bet list. The Broncos overcame 12 penalties, 10 in the first half,
and 191 yards on the ground and won this football game. They looked hapless for most of it.
Like most of their possessions were dog shit. But they, they, they,
had three touchdown drives, one in the first half, which was, you know, it was a good drive and everything,
but the two in the second half were interesting to me because, you know, you can draw a lot of hope
for a few reasons. Number one, the drive that won them that ball game, it consisted of a deep ball
outside the numbers, right? That's Russell's stuff. Vintage. And then a third and five where
Josh Allen got heavy on a rush, and Russell killed him with his legs. Yeah. You know, that is Russell
Wilson.
Collegiate.
Cougars.
And we know he can do that.
But what we don't know is if he's willing to take the profit, check down, work the middle
of the field, dink and dunk.
And he did that on his second to last touchdown drive where he found Dulchich, who's
been a big pickup for them.
He's gotten healthy.
Broncos lead the league in penalties.
They get a win yesterday and they led the league in penalties yesterday.
Russell Wilson back.
Hopefully he's reading the room a bit more.
I don't know if he's...
Hopefully he's room illiterate.
He's taking so much shit right now in the media for his behavior off the field.
He needs to let his play on the field trump that.
And to Reed's point this morning, the Broncos are scoring more every week, you know, exponentially more.
Yeah.
The offense is seemingly more capable than it has been.
The defense is going to be what gets them into the wind column.
If you let Trevor Lawrence beat you, he won't.
Yeah, yeah.
If you let Trevor Lawrence lose the game, he will.
And, you know, like, it all comes down.
to they have a chance to go up
two scores I think early in that game
well they do go up two scores
but two touchdowns and he throws
the ball right at fucking Justin Simmons's
face and Simmons that was a big play
because he had two penalties that drive and the
Broncos were kind of imploding by the way
93 that guy read that
tackle is a total stud had a huge
third and nine sack late
in that game
to to keep them in that ball game
or they're actually
Draymont Jones
Ramon Jones, who, where do you go to school?
It was a big school, right? Ohio State.
So that guy's a stud.
Simmons played really well in big spots.
And Trevor, you just can't throw that fucking ball, dude.
It's not even third down.
Like, just burn the ball.
Like, that's the thing I don't understand.
And Zach Wilson, it's like Zach Wilson had the same thing, young QBs, bro.
Zach Wilson, after the game was like, well, the second one, I was trying to throw it out of bounds.
That was awful.
Throwing it further out of bounds.
And the third one, you know, I just can't do that.
You know, like he was like a kid who was leaving his room, you know, when the parents were like,
now tell me what you did. And then you can go back into the playroom. Like he was like, I can't do that
stuff. I won't do it again. But I don't believe you. Dad, why is Joe Flacco in my playroom?
Dad, why does Joe Flacco and Mike White have the two highest EPA games in over the last couple of years for
the Jets? So Lawrence, man, you know, the pick at the end of the game, the pick in the end zone early,
the missing on third and eight
you know like late in that game
I know I'm pinpointing a random third down
but they're at midfield you miss Marvin Jones on a gimmie
and when you have Jags money line
everything feels like a big miss but ETN's pretty good
makes you realize why they traded away Robinson
but they need him to stay healthy
they need to find a second back
they were playing that hasty or Hastings guy
Hastie hasty hasty it seemed like everybody
had it out for hasty yesterday
they were all talking dog shit to hasty
but yeah the
Broncos. I love those Broncos jerseys.
Okay. Okay. Now we got to,
all right, now we're talking. You like this.
I am obsessed with the Broncos blue pants.
You like this? Okay. Y'all, calm down. They did this refresh. Feels like a million
years ago. We were like children when they did this refresh. The swoop on the pants.
Yes. And they have never worn this combo to my knowledge because they thought they were
hamstrung by the by the swoosh mismatching. They got the blue on the white jersey and
orange on the blue pan.
I, all right, I'm not going to go as far as what Kyle saying.
It was, it was interesting to see, I'll say.
This is like an embarrassing thing in your browsing history.
You should keep this to yourself.
That one's for John.
I think you're, I think Chris is right here on this, but it was like, hey, you know what?
No, we can wear the blue pants.
It doesn't matter if the swoosh panel thing doesn't match.
I'm just glad they took a chance on it.
Now, they need to redo the uniform.
I'm incredulous.
I'm incredulous right now.
Take off that panel.
I'm incredulous right now.
That shit was hideous in my humble opinion.
My God, I really think it's good looking.
But really?
That blue and then that orange?
I think it's classic.
Pretty simple.
Like classic,
it looks and feels classic like a home built in 2020 that is made to look like 19.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They did it right.
I think it's,
I think it's hideous.
But that's okay.
It looks like a haunted house to me.
Well, it's Halloween.
Happy Halloween, yeah.
So Miami, Detroit.
Okay.
What do you?
Why don't you do you do the breakfast?
break down because I can't talk about the dolphins.
The Dolphins fans, they're like fucking potty trained kids
that are six years old and they got potty trained three years ago
and they're like, Dad, I took a shit in the toilet myself.
I'm like, all right, kidding you flush.
Like, you want, you want, what do you want?
You want a medal for beating the Detroit Lions.
I would love to sit here and stroke the dolphins
and talk about how fast Tyree Kill and Waddle are.
The two really nice throws, that was it that Tua made,
that were tight window throws in the red zone.
The one ball, I think it was to Waddle,
the left hollow.
It was beautiful, beautiful throw.
The ball to Gaseki, it was put in a tight window.
But then he underthrows Tyreek Hill almost gets picked off.
But no, I'm not even going to say all that.
Because, like, listen, guys underthrow guys, okay?
Like, we started this argument a long time ago,
which I don't even know, I said Tua can't throw the deep ball.
He's not an elite.
He's a middle class deep ball thrower.
Yeah.
Okay, nothing has changed.
Okay.
The offense is really good.
McDaniel can chef it up.
This is a team whose ceiling is pretty high because of that scheme.
And Tua is doing a great job of distributing the football.
But the debates I saw last week raging on online between Tua and Herbert.
Oh.
Or like RG3 last night tweeting, like I bet all the almost intercepted crowd is all over Josh Allen.
Well, unless you're ready to compare Josh Allen to Tua, just just,
Everybody be quiet.
So like, here's the deal.
The kid, I think this is a wild card team.
I think they're dangerous.
I wouldn't want to play them.
But I'm looking at Jared Goff.
Jared Goff made a lot of great throws yesterday too.
He made a lot of throws that weren't even completions.
They should have taken the,
they should have been up 31, 17 going into the half.
Well, Reynolds dropped killed him in the second quarter.
That's a four-point play that Reynolds drops that ball in the end of them.
I'm not, listen, I don't want to have this conversation.
conversation. But it twists my brain in a fucking pretzel, like some of these sidebar debates
going on here. Just be happy Tua's pretty good, man. Tua's playing pretty good. And the offense is even
better. They would be the best offense in the league if Tua could throw a better deep ball. But because
of the fact that Kyle, you'd be careful. You're going to have people outside your house.
Every time Tariq has 10 yards between him and a safety in a corner, Tariq has to throw on the ABS to be able to
fall back to get a deep ball, it hamstrings them in that regard.
They have so much talent on that field and they're kind of handicapped on the back end.
And I will say that, but Tua's great intermittently.
He can run to get first downs.
He can have backbreaking all, uh, uh, he's likable.
He's likings.
Yeah.
The dolphins ruined Tua for me.
The dolphins fans ruined Tua for me.
And he's a lefty and he's from Hawaii.
What's not to love?
Everybody should be rooting for Tua.
But you get, like it's just, bro, like the way this thing is swung where they're so
sensitive. You beat the lions and you want to fucking, you, you want a metal
ceremony. They should have lost to the lions. And first off, shout out to Detroit
fans. That looked like a really tough place to play yesterday.
Yeah. Concrete jungle. I hated playing in Detroit. They got their concrete
jerseys. No matter who their roster is, you're going to face a tough team. But I got
to say, I'm giving my hollow man to Josh Reynolds. Because Jared Goff at the end of the
game had an opportunity to take the lead or tie the game to take the lead. To take the lead
on the Dolphins. On fourth and two, uh, in enemy
territory. Here you go from the 36-yard line. Jerigoth stands in the pocket and delivers an
absolute strike to Josh Reynolds, who would have had to make a tough catch, but you're trying
to redeem yourself from earlier in the game going into the half. Could have taken a 31-17 lead.
Now you can go up. 34-31 with a big catch here by Reynolds. The throw? You know, it's close.
You can make a huge play. What if Tua had made that throw? Would have been, uh, too?
No, no. If two had made that throw, no, I don't think that's a bad throw. He separated his receiver from
the defender.
Only where he could catch it.
The bottom line is I just hate the fact that, I hate the fact that, like, we're having the wrong conversation here.
I don't know.
Here's what the headline should be.
Dolphins survive.
Dolphins sleepwalk the first 15 minutes and find themselves in a dogfight, and they survive.
And they look like, like there's nothing new that I learned about the dolphins this week.
They got great receivers and a guy who can get them football underneath.
But they haven't convinced me they're an elite team yet.
Hey, guys.
Be ready.
People are going to want you.
People are going to be in your mentions.
It's okay.
Prove it to me.
How down?
Well, don't worry.
You got the Texans, the Browns, and the bears the next three weeks.
So this should be an insufferable month if you're tired of hearing about how the dolphins are.
What you got, make.
Dogs, here's what I will say.
They were down 14 at two different times, no matter who it is.
Yeah.
Okay.
And Detroit, the one in six, within three points.
I know they scored a lot late.
Within three points of Philly.
Yeah.
Within three points of Seattle.
Yep.
They play hard.
Yep.
And outside zone was not working for what seems like the first time this year.
Mostert couldn't get loose.
So it had to be all through the air.
And I know they're playing from behind.
But they couldn't get those chunk plays from the running game.
So, you know, good teams to be able to come back should have that in their art.
And that would be the segment, if not for the insufferable people in Miami.
I'm with you there.
I'm with you.
Waddle might have the best celebration football.
Waddle's awesome.
It's great.
A little penguin.
Here's the deal.
Here's the deal. This team is not a team I'd want to play in the playoffs. I'll give you that.
I'm just glad I don't play defense because I wouldn't want to play against that.
But they want a parade down there. Like legitimately their fans are insane. They want a parade for beating the lions.
They want to go on a Paseo. They want to go from Miami Gardens.
Their college team beat the lions of the ACC as well.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So a big win for Miami. I mean, like, listen, I don't want to rain on your parade.
but like four overtimes.
I don't want to rate on your brain.
Yeah, I listen to the overtime portion in the car, AM radio.
Okay?
Yeah.
So like that was quite the...
I love the radio calls of games.
I do too.
I would actually almost prefer to listen.
Well, I would definitely prefer to listen to that, the Miami, Virginia game.
I just feel like there's a lot of added value when you get somebody who's a real gold standard
when it comes to calling a game.
No question.
And that crew is really good.
I don't know.
I don't want to be too negative about the dolphin.
I'm just tired of the mentions, bro.
Like, I got people with the expect us pictures of dolphin standing in the dark,
like, do you believe yet?
Oh, yeah, I believe now.
Dan Campbell almost got you guys.
And Dan Campbell, man, like, they got to figure out how to win games, bro.
Fake punt.
They almost did it.
No, they did.
And, you know, like, Dan didn't drop that ball.
Dan didn't commit all those penalties in the second half.
Like, they were behind the sticks.
The whole second half, because of dumb penalties on first and second down.
So, listen, that's the coach.
is responsible for that part of it.
He's not responsible for the drops.
There's no one coming to the rescue defensively.
Aaron Glenn's not doing a great job.
But the dolphins survive, and that's what good teams do.
Good teams survive.
The dolphins are a good team.
That was nice.
To bring it home.
Lions are home for the Packers next week.
Yeah.
Guess the line presented by Bill Simmons.
It's going to be Lions.
Seven and a half.
Lions plus four and a half.
At home?
No, no.
Packers are struggling here.
I think
Lions plus three and a half
I think Vegas knows that the Packers win
and cover
and go ahead
I agree with that
I bet it's three and a half
yeah
I should do
I guess I'm betting the Packers
I should set these every week
well I haven't looked yet
I'm bad
this is my
the Chris Long's book
what are you setting in that
Packers buy
you don't see a lot of six
you see six
you see a lot of six
not in the NFC North
I see a lot of four
okay
Yeah, let's go five and a half, five and a half.
I think three and a four, three and a half.
Yeah, and that's probably what it'll end up being.
It's three and a half.
Yeah, that's what it ended up being.
Bet the Packers.
Nice, Kyle.
Bet the Packers.
Jets and Pats.
A reeling Patriots defense going against Zach Wilson,
and Zach Wilson just beat himself.
Like we talked about it earlier,
him owning up to the bad throws,
the terrible interceptions he threw three of them.
I mean, the saving grace about this team
is that they've constructed a roster
in a situation for whoever it is
that they decide to come in and play quarterback
is going to be inheriting a Porsche 9-11.
You know what I mean?
They're going to have the health
when the new guy shows up.
They're going to have the roster built around them
and the draft picks.
Right now, they got drunk.
Right now they just don't have the guy
in the driver's seat
to be able to handle that car.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jack Wilson's pulling up to his house
crawling out of the white Lamborghini.
Yeah.
Like that's, that's like they need,
He needs a governor.
Now, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, like, trade Zach Wilson today or something, but.
No, but just temper your expectations if you're a Jets fan.
Yes, you have a good roster and a good team, and you have a good coach and culture,
and the defense is a ton of fun to watch, and you've got superstars at all three levels.
But the reality is your quarterback is going to keep you guys out of the games that matter the most.
Bro, like, look at these picks, okay?
This is a bad one.
They're up 10-3 at this point, right?
Kyle, 10-3, the Jets are up.
Judon pressures, you know, uh, Judon's a
Zach Wilson.
Judon's had a really good year.
The three tech gets vertical and skinny like it's a T,
but they bring pressure in the A gap and then, uh,
Zach's got to throw the ball.
Okay, that's a pick.
That's a huge play because that turned,
they're at midfield.
Like what if they go up 17.3?
You know what I mean?
Like Mac Jones talk about getting dropped into two really on,
in opportunity situations.
Um, the second one, it's first down and he just sidearms it to,
Devin McCordy so fucking nonchalantly.
It's first down, dude.
Burn the ball.
You're outside the pocket.
The game's called football.
It's the most important thing on the field.
You need to protect it at all costs.
There's a context clue there.
Yeah.
It's not called, yeah, it's not called Devin McCordy.
What was it were?
We had a quarterback one time that threw a lot of interceptions and one of the veterans
on the team on the defense got that quarterback, the opposing jersey, and said,
this is what they're wearing.
Don't throw it to them.
Yeah.
He put it in there a lot.
locker for game day.
Yeah.
Had that work out.
It was funny.
More picks?
Sorry.
The less picks.
I forget.
Okay.
So then the third one, it's third and seven.
And McCordy, you'd think like, oh, it's kind of a punt.
Like, you know, they're at the 40.
They throw the ball down to the 23.
But like the play ends up.
Literally, he throws the ball.
He gets pancaked by Judon.
He's standing over him on the sidelineer.
It was Wise, who had seven pressures.
Wise is standing over him at like the 42.
McCordy catches it the other 23.
and McCordy runs out of bound right over Zach Wilson.
So it's not a punt.
You have to take care of the football.
There's no good time to throw an interception.
Fucking burn the ball, dude.
Just burn the ball.
And on the bright side, the Jets' defensive line,
I mean, whether it was Huff forcing a turnover,
whether it was, you know, Jacob Martin with that beautiful strip sack,
like the guys inside, Rankins, Williams, Franklin Myers,
they have a great core.
And, you know, I was watching that hand.
handshake between Bill and Sala and we you know I was like how's the handshake guys and I
were like yeah I think it was respect levels were probably 10 out of 10 that was my reading on that deal
and I was a lot taller than I thought too yeah he yeah he's a he's a he's a big guy when that chin
starts he's got that cower kind of thing like yeah like so it's all passion in that but but I think
bill respects Sala and he knows he's going to be there for a second and Joe Douglas is building something but
But I will be interested to see.
They're probably done wheeling and dealing
after that Robinson trade.
But it sure does feel like
Zach Wilson kind of rained on the parade yesterday.
That would have been a good barometer.
Can you beat those guys in division?
Wilson had a few nice plays, but way more bad plays.
And you're looking at the rest of the season,
like maybe we're not, our ceiling's not that high.
We lose pretty tall.
How many a row for New England over the Jets?
I mean, I think it's got to be...
I don't know, honestly.
I don't know if they've lost them over the past few years.
I'm just curious.
I know that we beat them twice.
13th straight.
I'm undefeated against the Jets.
13th straight win for the Patriots against the Jets.
And I mean, yeah, some of these games,
it's like when the Bears used to go to Lambo,
it's like, it doesn't matter how good we are or how bad they're playing.
You go play that team and you're like, fuck, they got our number.
Kyle, it started when I became a Patriot.
I think. I think I started this streak, the Chris Long streak.
Everybody okay with the roughing the passer?
At the end of the game, yeah.
In the second quarter.
Yeah, this was, oh, Mac Jones got bailed out hard on this thing.
You know, like, in today's game, probably.
In today's game, probably.
Now, I had the Patriots, and I screamed at Mac Jones so fucking loud at this moment.
Yeah, we texted about that, too.
It was unbelievable.
I was like Mac.
Yeah.
Zappy make me happy.
happy. Franklin Myers.
Franklin Myers might be a hollow man
because this game's totally different with that page six.
I mean, and it did not affect the pick.
It wasn't like one of those things where he hit him
and that's why the ball fluttered in the air.
Like this was Mack Jones making a terrible decision.
He's totally bailed out by Franklin Myers.
Gangrene, kind of a strange, you know.
Franklin Myers law firm.
Nickname.
Want to make a terrible throw and get away with it?
I'll hit the quarterback late.
All right, so that plays.
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my word is shield
as in the NFL
because we don't want to see y'all's
faces ever
it is about the logo
on the side of the helmets
and we want y'all to be
faceless
robotic gladiator
gladiator machine
don't take the helmet off
so
honestly
seems very punitive
and yet everybody knows the rule
Everybody knows the rules.
And Will Blackman, my guy, he's screaming after the game about,
don't be mad at DJ Moore.
Don't be mad at DJ Moore.
That's such a new media take.
You know, like, nothing is the player's fault.
Nothing is the player's fault.
DJ Moore, just keep your helmet on.
You win that game.
And DJ Moore seemed to take it like a champ because he was kind of like laughing
at himself on the sideline.
And maybe this is DJ Moore's Swan Song.
Like maybe he's moving today.
And by the way, we were talking about the Rams earlier.
I cannot wait to see what kind of ridiculous move they make today.
Just like overspending.
The Rams are the guys that like spend on a sports car and they can't afford their mortgage.
They don't understand how a credit card works.
But it works for a little while.
They're like, oh, approved.
Oh, I'll get a belt card.
You know, like, you know, like.
Fuck it.
Okay.
But DJ Moore, man, like I feel for him, but at the same time, just know the rules.
Well, and the kicker.
He already took his helmet off.
He took his helmet off when he fucking,
when he dropped the ball on fourth down.
Yep.
Yep.
Pinero misses the 48 yard extra point,
but then he gets a shot to win it again
with a 33-yard field goal in overtime.
He misses that too.
Panero earring guy.
Don't know if I can have a fucking kicker with earrings on.
Always got a clean lineup.
Yeah.
So here's the deal.
I had Carolina.
I had Carolina catching four.
There you go.
When DJ Moore lost that,
or ball on fourth and whatever it was at midfield.
and then the Falcons got the ball back
and it was that terrible situation
where the game's over, right?
But, you know, they have just enough timeouts
to make them kick a field goal in this situation
and I'm just, it's pain, dude,
it's just pain in the studio.
And then go PJ, that's my PJ,
fucking throws the ball, 67 and a half yards,
bro.
The highest air yards completion
since they started charting
next gen stats.
You see Mahomes tweet?
Oh, what did he say?
Didn't he say that has to be the throw of the year right there without a doubt?
Incredible.
Something along those lines.
And nobody saw it.
Me and Patrick Mahomes,
the only people that saw it.
How cool is that?
How cool is that?
Patrick on a biweek like...
PJ checks his mentions on the bus.
Yeah.
Well, think about it.
For PJ Walker,
and this is why I feel so bad for the Panthers.
And not even close, he said.
Because, yeah, not even close.
And it's a beautiful throw.
A beautiful throw.
And it's in the biggest situation.
And this is like the stuff you very rarely see.
Like this is one of those wild end of game finishes like the Miami miracle or something
or the Minnesota miracle.
Like this is one of these fucking miracles out here.
It's Steve Wilkes and PJ Walker after Matt Rule was given a million billion
billion bagillion dollars to fucking spit on his, his QZip and play dying QB roulette with fucking
Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield.
And then you had this PJ Walker guy here who Breeze,
life into this fucking offense.
NFL energy.
Foreman's running hard.
Hubbard's running hard.
You know, over the last couple weeks,
PJ Walker beats Brady, gets Brady off the
sticks, basically. And then
is a hero in Atlanta, and you come up
short, and you could be
in the driver's seat in the NFC South because
you took your helmet off.
Now, I'm not trying to break this guy over the
coals, but yeah, just keep your
helmet on and you win that game probably. Although
Pinero did fucking miss an overtime,
which probably makes DJ more
feel a little better because it's the kicker's fault, especially ultimately.
Spread the blame around a little bit.
Yeah, dude.
So my word is cocaine because that's what I felt like I was on up in Studio J.
Like that was incredible.
Like start to finish.
Well, more at the finish because I totally checked out in the first 45 minutes of that ball game.
My word is Marriota.
You know, he threw two picks, but he had three touchdowns.
So he had a huge run at the end.
And it's kind of the, my word is actually revival.
Okay.
Because of all these quarterbacks.
we're seeing from yester year have success.
Yeah, dude. And the keys are more in Marcus Marriota's hands in that offense.
And I think they let him do more yesterday against a team they knew that wouldn't overwhelm them.
Foster-wise, they said, okay, Marcus, throw the ball a little bit more.
Before we go to the next game, did y'all catch the Tyler Lockett soundbite?
I did.
What did he say?
He said, it's amazing what you can accomplish when no one cares who gets the credit.
And then he went on to say more.
But of course, they pulled that out and they were like, that's a shot at Russ.
And it very well might have been.
But when I watched the video, it came across way different than the quote read.
Yeah, absolutely.
And then after the quote, he said, that's what my high school basketball coach used to tell me.
These rookies came in.
They don't even, they don't, you don't say two words.
And they make plays and the whole thing.
And, you know, I think he was just talking about the fact that they're playing team football.
I don't often say it.
That's not true.
I do say this.
I do gas up my guy.
Chris, you're exactly right.
Thank you.
You're exactly right.
And on Twitter.
On Twitter, Tyler, Tyler,
said, people need to stop reaching.
I've said this quote like five to ten times since I've been in the league.
Stop looking for his story.
Should be easy to find, Tyler.
Enjoy our team.
It's in the database.
Let's go see if we can find Tyler Lockett saying this exact thing five to ten times.
And if he hasn't.
Over under six.
I'll take the under.
I think he's probably said it three times.
But his basketball coach are still saying it.
Yes.
Vegas and New Orleans.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Calvin Kamara.
Farewell.
This is interesting.
And I was going to let it go.
I was like, you know, the kid, the little kid trying to, like, veins are popping out of his head.
He's trying to hold in a whatever, you know.
Yeah, yeah, that man.
Yeah, that kid.
I think Marcus prefers Mariotta and Alvin definitely prefers Camara, but you're zacking on those two.
And it's all about getting the pathology police here.
I think the important thing is I not have spelled them.
And I know their first names.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that's really it.
Well, and the lead might just be that I'm an asshole.
But I just, I couldn't, I couldn't help myself.
It's hard.
There's a lot of names.
There's a lot of different pronunciations for names.
I hate what people say tongue of Iloa.
Uh-huh.
I'm like, hey, buddy, it's right there on the screen.
Yeah.
The CBS motherfuckers love to say tongueaviloa.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jesus.
So, so, so let's, let's do Washington indie.
Yeah, well, this is all week.
My one, I want to apologize for what I just said, but I couldn't help myself.
Yeah, no, no, no, no, yeah.
Oh, it's okay.
My words waste.
And it's Devante because, man, I feels like Green Bay would be a whole lot better with him.
And Vegas isn't maximum.
Ironically, I thought, I thought, and this is what got me to trouble with Dolvin's fans,
I thought the Adams signing would be better in Vegas than the Hill signing in Miami.
Because I just didn't think McDaniel was this much of a wizard.
But it makes perfect sense.
I mean, like, you know, that perfectly suits their skill set down there.
Get the ball to him and make it.
happened where Devante, I just feel like, especially on a day where I don't know what his numbers
were yesterday, but Waller was out, like it just has not, it has not paid off for them. We talked about
how their offense isn't jelling at all. And I think a big deal is Josh McDaniels, what is he, like
13 and 21 as a head coach, he's a QB whisperer. It kind of reminds me of the Adam Gase situation
when he was come in and asked to solve the problems in Miami and in the Jets offense. And it just
doesn't pan out well. Like you can go acquire these guys, but when a free agent comes to your team
and you're all learning a new offense, it's, it's not as there's incongruity there. But the Raiders,
had they kept Basacha, had they stuck with their guns offensively and said, this is the
strength of our team, then guys like Max Crosby can rush with a lead. Yeah. Then that team can start
playing together. But right now, it's like they came across 50 yards. I still think they pull it together.
I think they pull it together and they're in it at the end as far as a playoff part, this
concerned. I just think there's too many good players on the field. I think this was a dud,
and I think New Orleans is better than people think. They're a tough football team. It depends
on what, and Carmichael is probably going to get looked at, right, as a head coach. I mean,
like, he's, you know, you, you were not so hot on Dennis Allen as a head coach, but Carmichael
has done a great job as an O.C. They've gotten the most of Tate some Hill. Like when,
when Cameras in that game, uh, they are fucking really, really,
dynamic offensively. They've got a lot of past catchers.
And they could be in the market for
a quarterback. I mean, they're going to be in a market for a
quarterback. And they could go the other way today. There's
buzz about Camara being in trade. And that's, and that
was my word, farewell, because that guy, if this is the last game, he
went out with a bang and he's been tremendous there. I mean,
he's been one of the most fun players to watch.
A guy with all, like McCaffrey, he has all the tools, but can
fucking run the ball between the tackle.
can go catch it, can you can split him out.
I mean, he has been, if anything,
as much of a star as he's been,
I think he's been underrated strangely.
Remember that six TD game?
scored six TDs.
Against whom?
I think it was Thanksgiving.
It was.
Yeah, it was somebody.
Yeah, well, he's amazing.
And if this is the last game for the Falcon,
or for the Saints rather down there with Alvin Camara,
it's like to him.
Vikings.
Vikings.
Washington Indy.
Oh, I love it.
Backyard.
My city!
This is my city.
My word is mobbles, because that team has mobbles with Taylor Hineke.
It's like a college football game, doesn't it?
Like the one guy just takes over.
One guy takes over when it matters most.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Scary is a good word for this game.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Topical.
Heineke waits for the rush to, like, touch him before he, like,
like backs up two feet, steps up,
finds room, and then throws it.
But it's got to hit him like a wave before he's ready to go.
The big play was the little dump off that he had before the two plays that scored.
Before the McLarenbaum, he dumped off under duress to his checkdown.
And it was like a Mahomes type play.
You sure that's not Brett Farms kid?
Yeah.
It was an amazing.
And that plan will go unnoticed.
It's not going to make the highlight real,
but that play extended the drive and gave them an opportunity after the break,
after the commercial break to make their go at it.
And they had multiple fourth downs in the second half to Samuel,
who's had a big year.
Another guy who, like, I'm surprised is working out so well for him this year
in Washington.
The things I had heard was like not a great fit,
buyers remorse, that whole thing.
Maybe he's on the trade block today as we speak.
I mean, sell him high.
And if Jamon Davis, who makes a lot of plays,
doesn't stop them down at the goal line,
it's 20 to 7 instead,
and they don't have the luxury of trying to kick that field goal
to get it to 1610 or whatever it was.
So there were a bunch of little big plays in this game.
You know, you've got Heineke on fourth and two to Samuel.
You've got fourth and sixth to Samuel.
You know, he threw a pick.
He threw a couple bad balls,
but just keeping the play alive to get the ball to fucking McLaurin,
who, I mean, to take the ball from Gilmore.
That was sick.
One of the best corners of our generation down there in a jumpball situation
where Gilmore's got size on him, the whole thing.
That guy, two weeks in a row, is just putting the team on his back.
He's unbelievable.
McLaren, he is, he is him.
And they didn't score.
And they didn't score, but the whole, you know,
everybody in the stadium knows it's game over.
They line up on the two-year-old line over and QB sneak.
Yep, yep.
That, I mean, fuck, McLaurin is just that guy.
Dude, and here's the thing.
Like, he's been that guy despite who he's had throwing him the ball.
So all of these young, great receivers, I think for some reason, McLaurin gets docked because of where he plays, I feel like, and who's throwing him the ball?
Like, people aren't jazzed up about the commies.
I asked their left tackle Charles Lano Jr. about, I said, you know, we're friends.
So I ask him, hey, who on the team, you know, what I get along with?
Yeah, who do you really like?
And he said, you know, it's interesting.
The coolest guy on the team is probably Terry McClorian.
Yeah, dude.
He just seems like he's got juice in that locker room, a leader.
He's an old rookie.
he was an old rookie i mean he was like 23 or 20 l ds yeah so uh he did he doesn't like liberty flames uh
well so i i i um i'm just i'm happy for him he seems like a great guy he really does great great
kid great player um same draft is debo a j brown dk dante johnson what a draft yeah big receiver
draft and he's up there towards the top yeah out of all the guys you just named i mean i i don't know
what Debo looks like outside of Shanahan offense. Like I know what Terry McClureen looks like with
Carson Wentz and fucking Taylor Heineke and he's certainly ahead of guys drafted above him like
Marquis Brown to kill Harry. Debo's like Duverne. Or they go white side. So great game for the last
15 minutes especially. No doubt. Last one Tennessee Houston. My words Jesus as in Christ as in
the cross as in Derek Henry's nose ring.
I mean, the cross and the nose is
is comparable, getting comparable
to LT's Lightning Bolt LT.
He knows God.
He knows, he, nice, that's a nose. You got that?
Pun intended. He never looks tired when he goes to the
sideline either. Like he goes to the, he never
looks like beat up at all physically. He goes to the sideline, they give him his
water. He's like a horse. He goes to the sideline, they give him his water.
He eats a carrot and then he comes back in the game.
And he fucking runs.
down your throat.
It just runs through people.
It's the most fun
guy to watch in the NFL.
I know Josh Allen's fun.
Mahomes is fun,
but every time that he gets the ball,
it's an assault and battery.
It's a breaking an adage.
Kyle, my word's assault.
Great.
My word is assault because we fought over,
I could not believe watching that game
that we fought over that Houston.
That Houston plus,
I should have let you took Houston catching three.
And, you know,
isn't it funny how reactive people are overreactive,
whole Tannahill versus Malik Willis thing in the preseason. Do you remember that?
Where he played Baltimore and he had a couple of nice throws. He had a bad pick too, but everybody
was like, I don't worry about that bad pick. We don't like Ryan Tanna. We're tired of him.
We're tired of the guy that's taking us to the playoffs and done all this shit. Well, Derek Henry's
most of it. But, but you know, fuck this guy. We saw three throws from Malik Willis.
Malik Willis is not ready right now, bro. And it speaks to the Titans, the coaching staff,
the players, we talked about Vrabel and Ben Jones last week, that embrace, like,
they're just so fucking scrappy.
They can win so many different ways.
And one way, I think that they're pretty comfortable winning,
is running Derek Henry into a super loaded box.
I mean, I think he had, was it 118 against the loaded box looks yesterday.
I mean, people don't understand football is such a numbers game.
And when you start talking about the box, running against a six versus an eight-man box,
the game changes so much.
It's like being in the red area as a quarterback.
The space gets shrunk down.
Windows are tied.
The same thing with that eight-man box.
But Derek Henry says, hey, go fuck yourself.
Yeah, he's like John Snow.
You know, the picture, what was that,
the Battle of the Bastards or something?
Yeah, Battle of the Bastards.
He's pulling his sword out of his sheath.
Yeah, Bram.
Chris and Mike Tariko, they could fumbling over what a shit.
His Jair Alexander did a sword fucking celebration.
Again, he was down three scores.
But he did a score celebration.
And they were like, oh, he's putting his sword back in his
Holster, Mike Tarrico, read a book, man.
Fucking, you know, like, maybe I should be in the booth, but I could, I'll be a spotter.
It's a sheath.
Sheath.
The sheath, our mascots are fucking cavalier.
So, I don't know, man.
That was impressive.
The most yardage against stackboxes by any player in a game since 2020, week nine, the last
guy to run for that many yards against a stack box.
Derek Henry.
Yeah.
And he leads the league against stack boxes by like a fucking country mile,
dude over the last five,
six years.
The guy's amazing.
And here was the fun part of this game.
Okay,
I lost the,
I lost the plus three,
but I had put them in a big teaser
that could have swung my whole afternoon at plus 11.
And if you're watching that game in the second half,
Davis Mills,
like they can't get out of the shadow of their own end zone.
It was the most frustrating thing I've ever seen.
And it came down to one fucking drive.
They're down 17.
So all I need is the cover
And they throw that fucking deep ball to Brandon Cooks
Under a minute left to go
That and the DJ Moore catch
It's enough for me, dude
Whatever happens the rest of the week
That's enough for me
And that's gambling, man
You know, like that's why you do it
I mean that the jolt of dopamine
That I got from those two improbable catches
Was unbelievable
But ultimately assault
Because that was hard to watch
If you were a Tennessee
Houston reminds me of our old St. Louis Rams teams.
Honestly, like guys out there making plays on defense that I'm like, well, he's not going to be in a league long, but they just don't have any good players.
And it's kind of hopeless.
It feels really rough.
It sucks playing, particularly playing well as a player on a bad team.
It's like the most demoralizing thing.
For sure, but I just could definitely empathize with there were a lot of guys out there that wouldn't be getting snaps anywhere else.
And they're just not that good.
Hey guys, hey guys.
Houston hosting the Philadelphia Eagles on Thursday.
Hey, watch out, watch out.
You're saying watch out.
Watch out.
Okay.
Watch out.
Okay.
What is what I'm saying?
Watch out.
Watch out.
Watch out.
Watch out.
Is it going to be close?
Are they going to win?
Watch out.
What do you think the line is?
Okay.
14?
12 and a half.
You guys are all over it.
Yeah.
I'm going to say 13.
Yeah.
For the, with the hint.
Hey, watch out.
Okay.
Watch out.
I'm watching out.
Watch out.
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I'm not talking about September.
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I'm not even talking about the second week in October.
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The temperature drops.
The games get bigger.
The hits get harder.
And you can curl up and watch some meaningful football.
I like to do it with a Miller light from the fridge
and a cold frosty mug from the freezer.
Frosty mug meat.
a cold, beautiful can of Miller Light from my fridge.
That's teamwork.
We come together.
We can make a great play out there.
And the best play to make on a Sunday
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That's my favorite thing.
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Great taste.
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Great tiste.
Last feeling.
Yeah.
I had one yesterday.
I've slugged one after DJ Moore caught that ball.
I just felt so good.
Oh, okay.
Best plane ride.
For the reason that you already mentioned, the Miami Dolphins.
In the month of November, it is Bears, Browns by Texans.
So they should be 8 and 3 going into December, down 14 twice.
We've talked about it.
They escape.
They're in a good spot.
Where does that put them, 8 and 3 coming out of December?
That would be, I would say, if you had to look at it.
I mean, it'll be second place in the AFC East and probably the top wild card.
So the chiefs who have, which, I mean, like,
Do we all agree that we think the chiefs are better than the dolphins?
I know outside of people in Miami.
Yes.
Like they think they're better than the chiefs.
They do?
Really?
Oh, for sure, bro.
Wow.
That's delusional.
Yeah.
You see why I'm fucking all wound up?
Get help.
Get help.
Okay.
But, all right.
So the chief's got the Titans, the Jags, the Chargers, and the Rams.
One of those could be tricky.
They're both eight and three, I'd say.
A couple of them are tricky.
So they could be tied with the chiefs.
the damn
Chargers could close some ground
I mean they've got a big matchup
with the Niners coming up
off of the Niners by week on Sunday night football
that's going to be a thing of beauty
maybe a Beville Conway
and then
you've also got a couple teams
in the AFC North like they're going to be right in the mix
the Titans are five and two
surprise surprise they just won't go away
so going in December
the dolphins are going to be right where they want to be
yeah at worst seven and
That ball doesn't get thrown further in the winter months.
And, dude, yeah, yeah.
And, okay, the ball, weather gets colder.
Thermo dynamics.
Yeah, okay.
Thermal dynamics or thermo?
Thermo.
It is less humidity for the ball to cut through.
I don't know.
The dolphins are pretty good, man.
They are pretty good.
That's a plane ride.
Niners.
Yep.
Niners.
I mean, it's a short plane ride.
It's a short plane ride.
They beat up on their rivals.
They're getting well.
they're going back to the buy.
Best plane ride was what I'm assuming was a very nice private plane that Patrick Mahomes
and his buddies took to Lubbock, Texas to go watch the Texas A&M Red Raiders.
And the marching band actually came out and did a rendition of the Mahomes lettering on the field.
Wow.
Pretty cool.
Guns up.
That's fucking sick.
And you went to Texas Tech.
And you still get the fucking the marching band at your disposal.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
When a guy can...
That's called Juice.
Yeah, the marching man shows up for you.
Yeah, yeah, worst plane ride.
Did they win the game?
Did they win the game?
No, I mean, they won.
They have Patrick Mahomes.
Okay.
Didn't he go to, oh, he went to Lubbock.
Oh, I thought you said, I thought you said Texas.
I think he might have said that.
He might have said it.
Yeah, I think you said Texas said it.
Okay, so.
I was like, that's weird.
He's just taking over other college town.
My best plane ride this week was Patrick Mahomes and his buddies going back to
to Lubbock to watch Texas Tech.
I'm just making sure.
My brain's broken.
Me too.
I was like, damn.
Mahomes just at the midnight yell.
They also lost 45 to 17.
But they had a great half-time performance.
Okay, that's good.
Lubbock, man.
Like, hey, it's a fun town.
You know Patrick has juice.
No offense to Lubbick.
I'm sure it's fun.
But, like, there's not a lot of trees, I would imagine.
It's like kind of desolate.
A lot of hunting.
Yeah.
Well, like, hey, guys, we're going somewhere fun on the by week.
I'm getting a PJ, the whole thing who's in.
You're headed to Lubbock.
Oh, shit.
Look at this place.
Where they fucking.
Well, he's from Texas.
They're going to Delaware.
probably going home.
First Google image result.
Like that's the best they got to offer.
It's a one tall hotel.
You find me a tree in Lubbock.
I seriously.
Find me a tree.
I don't see.
You can't.
There's one over there.
Okay, you can't.
A little bit.
Anyways.
Worst playing ride.
I'm going to give it to the Raiders.
I mean,
that's a long trip.
I don't even think getting Dragoes after the game.
The fried oysters that they give you after the Saints beat this dog show you.
I remember holding my dragoes after we lost 47 to seven.
Like at least I have Drago's, but it's not enough, dude.
That's a tough plane ride.
I'm with you.
Vegas, two and five.
Wasn't supposed to be this way.
What's your worst flight?
Vegas.
Vegas.
So, okay, same flights?
Yeah.
You guys are on the same flight.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm taking the worst flight with the Jacksonville Jaguars because obviously it's a long flight.
And your guy isn't the guy right now.
Yeah, no, he's not.
Everybody's staring at seat 1A and it's just beautiful locks.
Yeah.
Like, why isn't Goldilocks dominating?
Yeah.
That's a great point.
We have his college running back here.
Yeah.
Let's make it happen.
We got the whole thing.
We brought you your team here.
Who's, who, uh, was y'all's head coach always in 1A?
Like, so front row aisle.
So the first class, the proper first class section, which is like the lay down seats and
stuff are at the front of the plane.
That's ownership.
That's GM.
That's head coaches.
That's family.
Maybe on your shitty.
Vodda.
Franchise.
We sat in the,
business club
That's why the bears got bad karma
Because you can't do that shit
The same thing
Okay well they have Patrick Mahomes
But but like in New England
Bill greatest coach of all time
He would let the fucking
The vets
Sit up there
We did that with John Fox's regime
Yeah because he's a empathetic man
Bill was back there in coach
Ro 27
Bro he was back there like a normal human being
Wow
Yeah dude and so if Bill can do it
So can Matt Nagy here
fucking...
But he was on the aisle, right, Bill?
I'm sure.
I'm sure he was on the aisle.
I try not to make eye contact
while I was going to the bathroom.
You know,
especially after the games where I'm out of my cab.
That's a bad plane ride when
when Russ is going down the aisle
dapping up everybody.
It's like, yeah, I'm trying to fucking sleep.
Here he comes again.
Fuck.
Okay, Beville Conway.
This is interesting.
Give me your take.
I'm going back to the college ranks.
It's Ohio State at Penn State.
It was great looking.
Okay.
White Navy White.
Ohio State and the,
the scarlet and gray
do they call it the gray white gray
I hope you didn't puke too much
during my Broncos jersey analysis
because I'm not going to go with the Broncos
but this one might thwart vomit
Detroit Miami
I loved
I don't like the Detroit all grades
I'm not crazy about the Dolphins jersey
but something about
wait whoa wait
wait whoa he hates both jerseys okay
something about the combination
two wrongs make a right
two wrongs make a right especially when it comes
to Ford Field matchup.
Something about that lighting.
Shout out to the Ford Field.
You like the Ford Field lighting?
This is mine.
No, no, it's good.
It's good.
And this is our take on yours,
which is that you might be,
maybe you got hit in the eye,
like fucking,
like Bellinger.
I thought it was cool looking.
Yeah.
Detroit's concrete jerseys, dude.
But pair that with Miami's.
I mean, okay.
No, Miami's all whites are cool.
I mean, like,
Miami's objectively one of the best looking teams in the league.
I mean, if you really zoom in, all right,
all whites versus all gray.
It's cool.
If this game was played outside, maybe.
On the,
but I didn't play in the game.
That turf is,
do you remember how hard that turf is?
I didn't play in it,
so it looks too much.
No,
but you remember used to play on that,
the turf is like concrete.
Yeah.
The concrete jerseys,
concrete outside the stadium,
concrete fucking field.
Pistons can dribble on that turf.
Okay, my Bevel Conway
is these,
is this homeless
camp and I walked by this weekend in an alley, Kyle.
Where?
I'm just joking.
Okay.
No.
I was like, okay.
I just, like, I'm just joking.
I'm making a joke off of your.
I know.
Tent City, that's what you're calling the Detroit Miami matchup.
Yeah.
Am I, yeah.
Okay.
So I, um, I'm going to go with last night, Sunday night football.
It was beautiful.
You know, it was beautiful.
I think, you know, Bill's all blue, not my favorite, but it really, the yellow was popping, man.
It was.
It's always beautiful when you got a packed house up there at that stadium, man.
The heaters are going.
Well,
and that red light,
that mezzanine section?
Like heaters.
Is that a heat lamp?
Do people walk out of there with like sunburns?
No,
no,
no,
no,
they had a heat lamp when I went to watch him play,
uh,
actually vanquished Josh Allen.
But at Highmark,
whatever the hell it is,
it's,
it's that really red lights.
They also have weird stadium lighting.
It's like white.
The stadium lighting is like white.
It's like they,
they had like FEMA rolled in some fucking,
lights. That middle section is like Easter brunch. There's a carving station. It's lamb and they're
keeping it warm. Like all them folks. They have food up there? You just, there's a metaphor.
Oh yeah, those people are the turkeys. Yeah. They're the, they're the, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I know what
you mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got to draw it. Okay. St. Louis Memorial Award. This goes again.
Hold on!
This goes to the person that was balling in obscurity yesterday.
Yeah.
Hey, hold on, a minute, player!
Bevel, what do you all think about the,
Oh, yeah, you got the Bears Orange?
They went back to it.
I'm out.
I'm out.
I'm out.
I'm out on it, too.
Yeah.
If you're going to do it again,
I kind of want to see it with the Navy helmet.
No, I'm out.
I'm out.
I'm out, period on the orange.
Yeah.
Period.
Okay.
All right.
Ballin in obscurity.
St. Louis.
I'm going out.
I'm going, I'm going Isaiah Simmons.
Okay.
He played great.
He made a couple big plays of the,
in that game.
Yep.
Good player.
Good player.
That's a cool little defense.
Zavenin Collins,
Marcus Golden.
Also good for him because early on they were like,
oh,
he doesn't have a role.
Like, what the fuck?
You draft this guy pretty high,
but he's been an impact player for them.
Buda Baker.
Chris Long knows Buda Baker.
Buda Baker.
Chris Long knows Buda Baker's fast.
Okay.
Hey, Buddha Baker.
Buda Baker's fast.
Let me just say that one more time on this podcast.
Okay.
I, mine, St. Louis Rams Memorial,
Russell Wilson doing calisthenics on the ride home.
Nobody saw it.
Guys are sleeping, obviously,
because you can obviously sleep through that.
But he just keeps, I guarantee he did it on the ride home too.
Guarantee if he did it on the ride home.
So I'm giving the St. Louis Memorial Award to Russell Wilson.
No, I'm going to give the award to everybody else on the airplane.
Right.
For having to power through that.
And just because you want to act like everything's okay
and that's totally normal.
Yep.
To be doing Richard Simmons stuff at 30,000 feet.
That was my fly on the wall watching Russ on the way home.
But not, it's, it's...
I would love to see it, though.
You're right.
That's a great mention.
Every week you get to see Justin Jefferson catch deep balls
from Kirk Cousins.
And Kirk Cousins is safe in that pocket.
And it's because of that left tackle Christian Darrasaw number 71.
Really, really powerful base can sit on any bull rush.
I've yet to see.
anybody really overpower him.
I like Christian Darrasol a lot.
And it speaks volumes.
I was talking to Adam Shine from CBS Sports,
and he had a talk with Kevin O'Connell.
And when Adam was asking him who he wants to talk,
like, who do you guys want to talk about?
He's like, I don't care what you talk about,
but we're talking about Christian Darrasaw, too.
That speaks volumes when your head coach wants to talk about you like that
and you're an offensive lineman.
No question.
Balling and obscurity.
He's on an all pro trajectory.
Good for him.
You all got to fly on the wall?
Yeah, I do.
I want to know what the fuck Robert Kraft and Bon Jovi talk about during a game.
Like I want to just sit there and hear their conversation up in the luxury suite.
They talk about the Navasink River.
I think most guys, white guys in their 60s look like John Bon Jovi.
But I was able to pick him out of a crowd yesterday up in that luxury box.
I was Leo on the couch.
And I want to know what they're talking about.
What are those two rich guys talk about during a game?
Is Bon Jovi a smart football fan?
You know, does he know what to say, what not to say?
Yeah.
Does Robert Kraft care?
So he just starstruck.
Does Robert Kraft no?
No, I don't know.
Might be a lot of, that was a good play.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Good play.
So this is viewing party?
Mac Jones says a pick six.
What does Bon Jovi say?
He's halfway there.
He's to the 30.
That's good, huh?
It is good.
Yeah.
You got to fly on the wall, Kyle?
Yeah, my fly on the wall is the family section at the Colts Stadium where Terry McLaren's entire city was
Naptow, because Naptown is Terry's city. And I feel like that would have been lit. And the after party,
come on. After party, they've got to get on a fucking plane. Not his family. If they're from there.
So for my viewing party, it would be in Andy Reed's office during the by week, finding out what makes him tick.
because I have written down here
he's 20 and 3 in the regular season
after a bye week
and 26 and 6 including postseason
Andy Reid
one of the best to ever do it
obviously an offensive mastermind
and he has all these weapons now
I'd love to see what he does during a bi-week
because he's such a football guy
great taste less filling
okay viewing party Tennessee Titans are taping their little ankles
are getting ready to play the Houston Texans
with Malik Willis
and they're you know because we have TVs on
in the fucking training room
and I want to know what these guys are thinking
when they're watching AJ Brown
catch three touchdowns in the first half
like, oh, we couldn't pay him.
Now, I know that
money's a little bit different. The cash is different,
but the cap hits not too much different
for what you did to get Robert Woods.
So, like, I'm sitting there
and if I'm getting my ankles taped
in Houston getting ready to play the Texans,
like, damn, like we are
three-point dogs to the Texans.
I wonder how much different it would be
if AJ Brown was here.
Hey.
Hey, hey, I got two here.
That's not how it works, but I want to hear them.
Okay, so Quay Walker.
Oh, Quay Walker, and it's not what you think, but I'll get into that too.
Quay Walker went to Georgia and got a Georgia tattoo,
and then he gets drafted by the Green Bay Packers to have the exact same logo.
Yeah, that's cool.
How pumped up was he?
That's super cool.
That's super cool.
That's two birds with one stone.
If he'd gone to grambling.
Yeah.
Transfer to a graduate degree.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's cool.
Okay. Now if the officials are like, if they get in their earpieces, hey, it's not a coach.
It's a practice squad tight in that he pushed. Is he not tossed?
No, I think he put his hands on McDermott too as he was walking onto the field.
McDermott put his hands on him.
I know, but you know how these people are. Like a bunch of fans couldn't wait to say you can't touch a coach.
And they didn't even know that fucking guy was a practice squad tight end.
Yeah, yeah. Nobody knew until Tariko told us late.
I've been in issues before on the sideline. There is video of it where Tribeski
he got pushed out of bounds.
I was injured in a hat and mesh shorts
and I was like grabbing throats of de lineland.
Just multiple throats.
It been like no penalties were thrown.
It got broken up.
But it was,
they were like,
hey,
don't fucking touch Tom Cable.
It reminded me of last night
when I was watching that.
Like the ref was like,
was that a player in a coach?
Yeah,
it was a coach.
Yeah.
It was a sideline polo.
We got a hot mic down there.
There was a collar on that shirt.
Throw them out.
And my final viewing party is,
is butt hurt college fans
when the Sunday night,
Sunday night football player intro
when he goes away from the college
when he goes either like high school
or hometown or you would go
Juco. I would go junior college. I love that.
Football fans from Oregon.
Really? They have so much gear, dude.
I was like I spent two years at junior college
one year to Oregon. I mean. Yeah, well, Saddleback needs to
send you some threads. All right, real quick game ball. I'm giving it to
AJ Brown. I'll go Tony Pollard.
Wow, I will also go Tony Pollard.
parking the same garage
yeah
i'm ready want you put me on through i gotta send my love down to baton rouge
hurry up i gotta put her on the line gotta talk to my girl just one more time
all right guys if we can figure out how we're gonna get down there we might go to baton rouge
this weekend
Nicole hourback joins us now and uh i guess the biggest story of the weekend was
and the slate wasn't like tremendous or anything to be fair
but tennessee kentucky was supposed to be the big heavyweight bout
and it was supposed to be Levis and Hooker,
and it was more hooker than Levis,
and it was more Tennessee than Kentucky.
What did we learn about Tennessee defensively
watching that game?
Well, they look a lot better than we've seen them in some of the other games.
I mean, certainly the Alabama game,
they got a couple stops when they needed to,
but everyone's kind of pointing to that past defense as their weakness,
but maybe they found some answers at Corner.
I think I think we still see that they can get after a quarterback.
Like it's not sometimes the total numbers don't quite tell the same story because like we've
seen Tennessee's offense.
You know that their defense is out there for a lot of snaps too because they're scoring so
frequently.
Their drives are so short sometimes.
So when people say, oh, they're, you know, last and total past defense, like that number,
the aggregate doesn't quite always tell.
But they've definitely got some weaknesses there.
And I think that's why like certain teams that have.
have really good wide outs are probably going to be more of a problem for them.
But yeah, they looked really good.
I mean, they really shut Kentucky down.
Their only score was in the first quarter and then it was done.
And they were just so dominant.
I mean, I think that's what, like Tennessee is checking off all the boxes of all the things
that we keep asking to see from them to say, like, if they're really back and blowing out
a Kentucky team that entered the season, the highest had been ranked in forever, that has built
itself up as this kind of jarling in the essence.
CC East and this place that really develops and is consistent year and year out and just totally
flipping that on the head and being like, nope, we're here now.
I thought it was a pretty strong statement.
But yeah, they may have figured out some things defensively at the cornerback position.
Well, it's got to be like frustrating if you're Kentucky because you go there, you're on the road.
It's a big atmosphere.
You go down 7-0 or whatever was and you answer and it feels like you had to earn that that score.
Like it was like a normal like we earned it.
We converted kind of score.
And then Tennessee just makes it look easy.
the rest of the way. And it's obvious that you can't keep up with that offense unless you're
firing at a really high click. And I guess for Kentucky, it's got to be doubly like, you know,
disheartening because as a program, you know, you have a top 10 pick at quarterback or
that's the way people are talking about lettuce. And you're still that much further away from the top
of the SEC. I mean, like, you know, this is your team. Like they have been as good as they've been
in recent memory. They've built a really solid.
program. They have the, you know, the playmaker at quarterback and they're still losing 44 to
six or whatever it is. That's got to be tough for Kentucky. Are you high on Levis or, you know,
as a pro, or are you kind of like relative to the hype about them? Are you above or below that
hype? Probably a little bit below. Like, I think this is going to be one of the more entertaining
and also annoying pre-draft processes. Like, I feel like there's always those quarterbacks, right? And,
like I was really high on Josh Allen and I know why people weren't but you know I'd spend some time
with him that year when he was struggling and had lost all these pieces at Wyoming and so like I had
reasons that you know I was interested in that and also just reading for a small school guy like
always going to be that person but this one's going to be really interesting especially because we're
going to he's going to be like the guy everyone's going to talk about his heart and you know he's
toughness and you know he's just fearless and he's you know he goes into plays instead of sliding
you know, he'll just get tackled on all those different things, playing with that broken finger a couple weeks ago.
But yeah, to me it says a little bit more about the quarterback from the draft class, but like this is a weird one that I don't know if anyone of us in college sports saw coming that like all of a sudden we'd be talking about will let us as maybe the top quarterback drafted.
So that one's, I'm a little bit lower than the hype, but happy to be proven wrong on this one, but this is one where it's just kind of a little bit out of blue where the first time I saw a mock draft with it, I was like, okay, all right. I guess this is going to be fun.
Is there a small school guy this year?
I mean, there's obviously no Josh Allen, but you mentioned Wyoming.
That's pretty cool.
Did you go out and get to see Wyoming play that year in person?
So I didn't go to see them play, but I did go to Laramie.
I went and did a story with Colorado State and in Wyoming on that trip.
And so it was like in the middle, honestly, the story was really interesting because most people don't,
A, pitch these types of stories, but like agree to do them.
And it was just sort of like, okay, he'd been a.
an anointed like that next great quarterback and then he comes into this his last year in college
loses center top running back top receiver like everybody and then is losing these high profile
games and everyone's out and it was just sort of like what happens when like the end of the
fairy tale isn't that and it was just really i thought he was really introspective i thought it was
really interesting um so i've always rooted for him but in terms of small school guys um it's
interesting because i i feel like you know we saw bailey zappy do what he did last year and said all
these records. And so you have a couple guys at places like Western Kentucky where you can sort
of see that that type of explosiveness, but also like the guy that was behind Bailey Zappi,
Cam Ward could be that guy, but he's transferred up. So he's at Wazoo now. So like you have some
of that, but because of the quarterback movement, sometimes they go to a little more high profile
places. So I'll get back to you though. I'll give you a list of those types of candidates.
Well, it's funny because like I was just on, you know, the whole, what is?
is this, uh, Walter football.com. I just kind of look at these lists. And I had to go down the list like 13 or 14 names. So I got to a small school guy this, this coming year. I mean, most guys are coming out of larger schools. And, you know, it's, I think that the first kid I saw was the coastal kid, McCall. Yeah, which is. Yeah, Grace and McCall. Also, like, I think people thought, you know, the success that they had two years ago that he would have transferred out. So that one's like a remarkable one where, like, he was like, a remarkable one.
He got all that attention.
I'm sure he got a lot of phone calls, but decided to stay.
Yeah.
So maybe he counts as our guy for that.
Interesting.
Interesting.
Yeah, that's a really good point that with the transfer portal,
we'll probably see less small school guys popping up in the top 10
because they'll probably leave places like Laramie,
which is a tough place to play.
I always say that.
We got beat 23 to 3 in the opener, my senior year up there in Laramie,
and that altitude is a beast.
And those cowboys and ranch hands, they're pretty good at college football.
They don't get enough credit.
They are.
So next week, we're looking ahead to Georgia, Tennessee,
which is going to be a monumental atmosphere in Athens.
That's going to be crazy.
Georgia, 10-point favorites.
Is that too many points the way you look at it?
I mean, if you, Nicole, could make the line, what would it be?
I mean, it does feel a little bit high.
It feels like maybe seven would be right.
But I also sort of get the deference to Georgia.
entering this game. I think it's going to be, it's essentially the SEC East Championship, right?
We actually have the SEC East and then the FCC West Championships, like both being played next week.
So most likely the winners of those two games are the two that we'll see at the championship game.
But I feel like Tennessee is going to have a chance here. I was talking with David Oben.
He covered Tennessee for a number of years, the whole SEC for us at the athletic.
And he was just talking about how there are a couple teams that would be absolute nightmare matchups.
Like he thinks Ohio State would be a terrible matchup for Tennessee with where their weaknesses are defensively, right?
And that they have an offense that could keep pace.
He said Alabama and Georgia, the way that they're built, he doesn't think that that's part of the reason they were able to get Alabama this year.
And Georgia's defense isn't as good as it was last year.
Plus, you know, you have those questions, you know, are they going to be able to score?
I mean, Georgia is going to need to get to what?
at least 30 something points in this game.
You're also gonna need to, you know,
where can they take advantage?
Obviously they have an amazing tight end,
but are those receivers gonna stress
the Tennessee defense in the same way that in Ohio State would?
We don't know.
So I think seven feels about right to me,
but I would not be shocked with Tennessee wins.
I am going to probably waffle back and forth
on this one all week because I also tend to root for new blood,
But it's sort of interesting because we're getting the college football playoff rankings on Tuesday before this game.
And I think Tennessee, I would put Tennessee one because I think the win over Alabama is the best one anyone has.
But then you could also say the same thing about Georgia because the Oregon win looks better and better.
So it's like it matters, but then the winner of that game will just be number one next week anyway.
So it also doesn't matter.
Yeah, no, it kind of matters.
It kind of doesn't matter.
in Georgia, my two cents is like that Oregon team, new coach, traveling down there to the southeast to open the season, like that was always going to look bad.
You know, it's just, you know, if you're going to lose that game, you're going to lose it by 30 points.
It just was one of those tailor made.
Wow, the SEC's good.
It's September, and we already know how good the SEC is.
And like, so I, you know, I do think they probably get the benefit of that win.
But in actuality, I think this is going to be a really good football game.
I was going to, if I had to bet it right now, I'd probably take Tennessee money line and,
you know, and juice that thing up and hope, uh, hope it's a barn burner down there.
That's going to be awesome. Okay, so TCU, um, there ain't know. They beat West Virginia,
uh, 4131. If they're undefeated or how simple is it for them or how complicated is it
for them? I think if they're undefeated and they win the big 12, they're in.
I mean, we haven't had an undefeated power conference champ not make the play.
out.
What's going to be interesting is where they fall in the first rankings because I am preemptively,
I'm going to be mad about them.
And I know that I'm going to tell myself, these don't matter.
These are no one's resumes are done.
The only one that matters is in December.
But the first one is when we get to like see a little bit about what the committee values or
what they're prioritizing because there's always new members and different things each
year.
We have a new chair this year, Bukorgan, NC States AD.
So like TCU has beaten a lot of teams that were.
ranked at the time and there's some really there's some good teams in the big 12 so how many of them
are ultimately going to be in the committee's top 25 because then you're going to be able to say
tc u has four top 25 wins or whatever that metric is and then you could say that they're there
but also they've had to come back from double digit down like the committee cares about the way you
win the games too right and if you're in control of the games uh they have not been but they've
come back and then like that offense is really special so what is what like that that's one of
of the teams that I'm going to be super interested to see what committee says because it'll show us,
right, if they could even, if they could have one loss, would they still get in based on the
way that the committee's viewing the league? So I think it's pretty clear, but we'll find out,
probably we'll get a good idea of like if they have any wiggle room, which they might, they might,
because we've also seen a lot of one loss conference champs get in. Yeah. So I look at this and I'm like,
okay, Ohio State or Michigan, somebody's going to, maybe somebody's undefeated in the big 10 champ.
I mean, Tennessee could go undefeated.
They could win the SEC they'd be in.
You know, maybe, maybe, or maybe the other thing happens.
Georgia goes undefeated, and they end up in the SEC championship, and they lose to Bama.
So there's two, you know, one loss, SEC powerhouses.
And then there's Clemson.
Clemson probably wins out, unfortunately, because they survive Syracuse.
Like, let's say an undefeated Clemson and an undefeated TCU.
head to head. Does Syracuse's, you know, making that a fight? Does that stick in the committee's
head right there? It could. I think you'll also have them talking, you know, they'll probably
we'll probably end up parsing, okay, they changed quarterbacks in that game, but then we'll
have to see how DJ plays after this, right? And then you say like, okay, which quarterback is going to
be the guy they're going to play in the playoff? Again, I think, I think it would, between those two teams,
depending on how the committee is justifying this,
TCU's resume will probably be a lot stronger by the end of the season.
If we think that the top in the middle of the Big 12 is good this year,
ACC is not, right?
There's a lot of teams fighting at the bottom.
So Clemson's not going to have that kind of resume.
They have divisions this year,
so they're going to have to play the coastal champ,
who may or may not be ranked at the end in the conference championship game.
So I think TCU would have a better chance.
If Clemson goes undefeated, though,
Like we love to have all of these scenarios where we think that there's going to be like more teams undefeated than there actually are because like you just said, a bunch of them are going to play each other, right?
And so you'll at least have some head-to-head results.
I mean, Clemson would make it in that scenario, I think, if they go undefeated and win the ACC.
Problem is, I don't think anyone thinks they'll win a game in the playoffs.
Like I don't think anything, I don't think anyone thinks it looks at Clemson playing this year and says that team could beat Ohio State.
That team could beat Georgia.
Like it doesn't feel that way.
but can they get in? Can they get picked? Yes. But we'll see. Again, I think it's very possible that the committee
likes the big 12 teams and ends up beefing up TCU's resume, but we'll have to see. And again,
if Syracuse falls off or something and doesn't end up a top 25 win by the end of the season,
some of that stuff ends up impacting Clemson's resume. That's why you've got to like root for all the
teams to just beat. No question. Yeah. And Michigan say they slide in. There's a lot of
football left, but like your Wolverines, they get in, let's say, you know, do you feel better or
worse about their chances of going toe to toe with an SEC team this year? Because it feels
like a long time ago, but it's really not that Georgia game was ugly. And I'm wondering if you
feel better this year. So it's actually really funny you ask that because that's the exact
conversation. One of my group chats was having this weekend was like,
Okay, you know, going into these rankings, do you put Michigan there?
And I think the answer is yes.
And then the next question is, well, do you think they can actually win a game in the
playoff?
And I still think the answer is probably no, because we saw what it took to get to the top of
the Big Ten and to beat Ohio State.
Yeah.
But there's still a different gap and things that you need to do if you're going to play
like a Tennessee in the, in the, in the playoff and actually have a chance.
Like we, this is something that watching the Michigan, Michigan State game was super apparent again.
we saw them settling for all those field goals, they're really hesitant to stretch the field
vertically. Like, they're not really trying much with J.J. McCarthy. And he's only completed very few
passes in Big Ten play that are more than 20 air yards. So he's not doing it that well, but they're
also not trying. Like entering Saturday only attempted 16 passes that were need balls. So in Big Ten play.
So they're going to have to add that element because, like, you can't just dominate with the run game and
try to win in the trenches and that's not going to get you enough points against tennessee like that
i think watching the game saturday you know they're dominating they clearly did not have much respect
for michigan state's offense because they were fine with the field goals harball would have been
fine winning that game without the touchdown but the question is then like can you beat ohio
state this ohia state team this year without without that and then what about in the playoff and
so i think they need to continue to develop that and until they
do that. I mean, it's hard to imagine, especially if you think of Tennessee. Like, I think
that, that, I'm thinking of Tennessee is like the prototypical type of playoff team, the SEC
speed, the skill at all of the different offensive skill positions, the quarterback, but just the idea
that you'd need at least 30 points, right? And maybe you're going to get 50 on someone, right?
You know, we've seen Alabama have to adapt to winning games like that post-lane Kiffin, right,
and all the changes that they made. So can Michigan do that? Like, they like winning the games
the way that they are now.
But that's the gap.
And that was the difference with Georgia.
So I would still say no until they prove it that they can win those games and that they
can stretch the field and do different things offensively to stay in the game.
But like they have talent.
They have talent.
It's just like you saw the gap that existed between really good in the Big Ten and winning
a game in the playoff.
And we've also seen a number of other teams that couldn't figure that out, right?
Like those Lincoln Riley, Oklahoma teams never won a game in the playoff.
Right.
They can get there.
Right.
Michigan can get there.
But yeah, so I guess until someone proves that I'm just, I'm just not sure.
Because, you know, it just, it feels like there's certain programs that we've seen do it over and over and over again.
And then there was the one flash in the pan of LSU in that season.
Right.
But other than that, you know, these other teams that have kind of gotten there have not been able to then break through that next, that next gap.
Well, I'm, I'm hopeful that this is the playoff.
We have some close ball games.
I'm hopeful that we buck the trends and we have some one score games in each round.
And I do like that you're managing your expectations, Nicole.
So hats off to you for doing that.
And we'll see what happens the rest of the way.
Nicole Alaback, appreciate the time next weekend, a lot of big games as well.
We will see you next Monday.
All right.
I am hopeful that Virginia scores touchdowns for you.
I had to listen to that damn thing on the radio.
I was in my car during overtime.
I had to drive somewhere.
Oh, no.
And it was rough.
I mean, like, I listened to that loss the old-fashioned way.
So, but then I got home and watched Louisville turn or Force five turnovers against Wake Forest.
So I don't know who had a worst day, Sam Hartman or Brennan Armstrong.
I don't know.
Just put that one out there for people.
Yeah, I felt so bad for Sam Hartman in that third quarter.
I just never seen something like that because they got, they had so.
many possessions so he just kept turning it over.
He just kept turning it over.
Oh, God, I felt terrible.
But yeah, it was a banner day for the ACC.
I'm praying for the ACCC, Nicole.
Better week next week.
Yeah, I appreciate you and we will see you next week.
All right, see you soon.
