Green Light with Chris Long - NFL WK9 Reactions! Lions Handle Packers, Eagles Jump Over Jaguars & Vikings Get Right!

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

Welcome to the Green Light LIVE NFL Week 9 Reactions show! Chris, Dr. Fax and Beau recap the NFL's week 9 action and preview Monday Night Football battle between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Lions paraded into Lambeau and laid claim as Jordan Love watched, Saquon Barkley and Jalen Hurts lead the Philadelphia Eagles to a victory over Doug Pederson and the Jacksonville Jaguars, Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills secured another victory over Tua Tagovailoa and the Dolphins, Joe Burrow torched the Raiders, the Saints were jumped by the Panthers and had to fire Dennis Allen and the Denver Broncos caught a pissed off Lamar Jackson led Baltimore Ravens team that ran rough shot. And we drop our BetMGM Moments and Dr. Fax's Viral Moment of the Week! (00:00) - Intro (20:25) - Indianapolis Colts at Minnesota Vikings (34:23) - Detroit Lions at Green Bay Packers (57:15) - Washington Commanders at New York Giants (1:03:35) - Jacksonville Jaguars at Philadelphia Eagles (1:26:35) - Dallas Cowboys at Atlanta Falcons (1:46:30) - Chicago Bears at Arizona Cardinals (2:03:30) - LA Rams at Seattle Seahawks (2:11:20) - Denver Broncos at Baltimore Ravens (2:21:30) - Miami Dolphins at Buffalo Bills (2:28:35) - LA Chargers at Cleveland Browns (2:34:15) - Las Vegas Raiders at Cincinnati Bengals (2:42:55) - New Orleans Saints at Carolina Panthers (2:52:30) - New England Patriots at Tennessee Titans (2:56:20) - BetMGM Moments (3:24:08) - MNF Preview: Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Kansas City Chiefs Want your Green Light Merch so you can look exactly like Chris and the fellas? Hit the website below and get kitted! https://stores.kotisdesign.com/yotehouse/products Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Send any Talent Search submissions to: [e-mail] Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgxWFAA-wuB7osdiAJyLOcw Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

They're not asking these quarterbacks in this game to do a ton unless you end up down two scores. And you don't want to go down two scores in a fucking monsoon. So that's kind of the way it ends up for me is like Detroit came into this game. We worried about the elements for them. Green Bay is going to play in the elements a lot. They have to be better. They have to be more disciplined. They drop the ball five, six times.

They had a bunch of penalties. They're one of the most penalized teams in the league. And Detroit on the other end played like a team that plans on playing deep into January and February. And this is why we put them in the damn bowl, you know, because they, because they're well coached ironically. Like, you know, the guy who was biting kneecaps day one and everybody wrote off as this dumb meathead has got one of the best coached football teams in the league, one of the most unselfish football teams in the league. And when they go on the road and play in a divisional game like this, they had their shit together. Welcome to the Green Light podcast.

NFL Week 9 live reactions. We've got Chris, Bo, and Nate. Dr. Fax Collins. We run through all the games on the week 9 slate. We do a little look at the NFC and AFC playoff standings. We're a little more than halfway through the season where teams stack up, what teams have the best shot at the wild card. And we break down the games.

The Eagles with a huge win over the Jaguars, they tried to give it away at the end, left some points on the field. But we came out of there with two unreal plays, Sequin and Devontas Smith. The lines going into Lambeau knocking off the Packers. And a great Sunday night game, Vikings knocking off the Colts. We thought Joe Flacco was going to be the answer for Indianapolis, but the Vikings bounce right back and get a win. Enjoy the episode. Make sure watch on YouTube as well.

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Let's see, dude. Nice little. Oh, man. I think there's one in there that I think you're really going to dig. What kind of hat? Where's these hats from? Senderro. And I wanted to, I want everybody to have a game day hat.

Well, I'm probably, I mean, this is a great. That's the one I thought you wanted to, you were going to take because of the Super Bowl logo. Yeah, it looks incredible. It does look like just like, just like, yep, the 30. Very good thinking, read. So, huh? And then fishing, not catching. That's why they call it fishing, not catching.

Yep. Here you go. Or Nate, sorry, I should be thinking of you. I got that for Nate, but also Nate, I got you a beanie too, but it's on the way. Go west to space, young man. That's you. Oh, I have my. I'm wearing.

Oh, you're picking everyone's? Sorry. No, no, no. Who gives a fuck? Is that a problem? No, that was, that was perfect. start the show you know what I'm saying let me just go well I appreciate the hats we're we're just one way everybody's got a game day hat now um game day hat game day hat nice yeah game day

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You want to throw that graphic up there? This is, listen, I will pull a muscle telling you when I was right. Okay, Stanford Steve was five and oh this week. You got that graphic? Yeah, yeah. Stanford C was 5 and 0 this week in locks. Macon was 5 and 0 last week in locks,

and I was 5 and 0 this week in locks. In total, we go 12 and 3 on the week. That's pretty good, okay? Even a blind squirrel. If we were blind squirrels, we're not blind squirrels. We know what the fuck we're looking at because on the season, what are we,

we're doing pretty good. You're 60% Macon's 55 and Steve's 51. We're crushing it. crushing it. And I'm not saying we're great. We're just on a good little run here. You know what's crazy? What?

At the start of the season, I was playing a parlay with everyone's picks, and then I stopped, and now you got to take them. Yeah, dude, all you got to do is tail us. You're winning. Average 51, 55, and 60 together. That's 106 plus it's 166 divided by 3. Yeah, I mean, that's pretty different.

That's like 55.3. Exactly. You're going to beat the book, though. way yeah so i'm not i got i got to pump us up when we're doing the right stuff now there's some stuff that we're wrong about and i'll tell you that as the the show goes on i had a guy this morning was like i want to read you this tweet the the longer i do this more i fall in love with the listeners you know as the way they like to communicate and and uh and tell hey joel jill and i won't know this show and you aren't afraid to tell us when you're when you get it right i

I just told you that. I would love to hear your thoughts on the Antonio Pierce hiring 10 weeks in the season. You all caps loved this hire. I mean, I guess I got that one wrong. Now on to a team that matters this year. You know what I'm saying? I mean, we can't bat a thousand. I don't even know if I'm ready to say I got the Antonio Pierce thing wrong or we got the

Antonio. I don't think it's so early. They fucking, they don't have a quarterback. And they don't have a running back. They literally are Anybody. They just fired everybody. He's still there though. They're historically bad running the ball.

I'm not saying he's the right hire and maybe hey, maybe I jumped out of the gym on this guy but I just didn't think of that as like a really out on a ledge take. Hey, if the Raiders are going to be bad I would enjoy watching a former player be the coach rather than just another guy getting a job.

A retread or some coordinator, some boy wonder. They got to have a quarterback before they get better. And we'll talk about them in the flyover games, although we did not watch that game. That's another thing. We get these flyover games going forward. This is just an admission that we are human.

We can't watch every game on Sunday by Monday at 2 p.m. And as the season goes on, the nice thing is some teams, like the teams I used to play on, lose. And they lose and they lose. And eventually it's like, hey, you know what?

Nobody cares what happened in Carolina this week. So we'll catch up with the Panthers fans later in the week. Although there will be some topics coming out of these flyover games. America's teams, a couple of America's teams here, number one, jelly roll fans. We went to a jelly roll concert. Amazing. What'd your boys think? Oh, it was unbelievable.

I mean, jelly roll, the performer, incredible, but the entire production itself, the whole thing was, I was entranced the entire time. Top five show I'd ever been to, and I didn't know Jack about jelly roll. No, I would say the same thing. No one and I were listening to songs as you were getting ready to go in. We were just like, all right, this one, okay, we got that one. I'm the same as you. I was not like a jelly roll guy.

And not because I don't like jelly roll. I just never listen to jelly roll. Like, so I had a buddy be like, hey, I know Jelly Roll's photographer. And he wants to hook you up. They want to hook you up with some tickets. Some of your boys want to go on them. I put it in the group text. You all were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So we went out there and I gotta say the guy's a fucking showman. He's an absolute showman. And I got to meet him before the show, which to me was like, you know, sometimes you meet musicians and I've fanboy before or at least been like don't fanboy, you know? Because like, hey, the way y'all are with athletes, I love music the same way. So like, you know, I'll meet certain musicians and I'm like, I've got to be on my best behavior now. But I didn't really know jelly roll, so I was just meeting a guy that, you know, was a dude meeting a dude, a dude meeting another dude. And I was blown away watching him back there.

He has a huge band, all very talented, a bunch of opening acts. And my man is like a leader, bro. He's like the leader of the pack. He's lead him in prayer. He's getting him hyped up before they go out. He's coordinating. He's walking around shaking hands, talking to people like, you know, don't need to say hello to me walked up dab me up i got to watch jelly roll walk walk out with

the with the curtains like he's got some intro with morgan freeman talking the thing went dark and like you i could hear morgan freeman in that baritone and i'm back in the bowels of you know uh john paul jones arena and uh it comes on and he's like check this shit out. Morgan Freeman, huh? Like, he was like, man, can you believe it? And I'm like, bro, like, that's, you made it, bro. And then he goes, watch this shit. And the fucking curtains open.

And he walks out and I was like, bro, I've been to a lot of shows. This guy has command of the crowd as good as anybody. And he was up and down the stage. There were multiple stages. Yeah. It started raining on him the last 10 minutes of the show. Yeah. It was fire. It was great.

And then, like, where we got to stand like kind of like in the midst of the control booth so you can kind of see all the cameras and all the different angles of them setting stuff up it was like extra cool just kind of seeing everyone like working their part to make this show like work and it was just amazing from start to finish everything and i'm not usually into a stadium like indoor stadium show i like outdoor shows like i'm really like outdoor shows but but he made this pop dude it was awesome and the in the the light show and like you said the rain like everything and we were right on the soundboard it was crazy they started putting bags over the equipment yeah 10 minutes

to go and i literally tarps came out like wait right i lean over to nolan and i'm like hey do we want to move and they were like he's like why i was like they're putting tarps i was like it seems like we're about to get hit with like some type of projectile or water or something and because they started covering up all the equipment with plastic wrap yeah yeah And then all of a sudden, it started raining. Probably feels good to get a, like, a cool shower after a show like that. A dude's out there in, like, leather, bro. And he's, I mean, he's a big man.

And to open the show, it was, it was like fire. Yeah, it was fire. That had to eat, yeah, the whole thing. So, shout out to Jelly Roll. Yeah, that's right. Jelly Roll fans. That was kind of fun. And then we lost in the back for a little while.

It was me Nolan and Reed. And Shibuzzi opened for him. Yeah. And he was walking through. And I think because he looked. He's big as shit. dude yeah i think because he looked and he seen i was the only black guy out of the group he like calmly walked over and just dat me up and just kept walking did he really real smooth like you got to like a dab

from shibuzzi and shabuzzi had like never like yeah like walking by we kind of looked at each other i was like oh that shabuzzi he dat me up and then him and his bodyguards you just keep walk you know he was a good football player was he he's from virginia i think you went to woodbridge yeah where uh amad Brooks and Clint went. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Wood Bridge.

So, yeah, and he was big. He was. He was holding a basketball. He was probably getting some shots up back there. That's cool, man. My kids love Shibuzzi. I mean, like, my kids make me listen to Shibuzzi all day. And eventually, I'm like, all right, let's listen to some Shibu's guys.

When we, right before, right before Jelly Roll went on, they had the, like, hype-up guys playing. And so we were right behind the soundboards, right off the side of the stage. and one of the hype guys saw Nate did the same thing walked over to him real clean from the stage. I'm like the, like, I feel like I'm like the guy that might look like a guy that everyone knows. They were like, like, Lagart.

I get that a lot. Like people dab me up and they act. Bro, there was a legendary run of people and I, on record, don't see it. There was a legendary run of people calling you LaGarrett for two, three years. I mean, we had devout Pat's fans, devout Eagles fans. We were at Waste Managed. and some guy dressed in a caddy outfit saw me on like the upper concourse and was like I see you look at Lagerit and he was like I see you Ligarit and then 10 minutes later he comes

all the way up and I'm like oh he's going to figure out it's not Ligarrett and he daps you up he's hanging out with you he's asking about the Super Bowl run he's taking pictures he's tagging le garret bro I still think about those pictures all those people took like them like when they realize like or someone tells them like yo that is not Ligarrett Blunt, like how they feel about taking those pictures? Not good. I also want to shout out. I want to shout out America's team,

everybody that hates that guy from State College that harassed. Jason Kelsey. Listen, I know this is like, you show me a really funny clip where it was like just the internet discourse after something like this where everybody has to weigh in and like everybody's got an opinion and it becomes like semantics and like, You know, the point I was making was like, yeah, certainly free speech by all means, but like, you'll find yourself in the enclosure.

You know what I mean? At the zoo. You know, when somebody like falls down into the enclosure and they're like, oh, there is the big wild animal I paid to see from a safe distance. Like, that's what happens. And that was Jason getting mad, but it could be worse. Yes. It could have been much worse. I mean, you lost your phone.

I know there's some people that just like. don't like the Kelsey's now for whatever reason. And, you know, I think those are the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, few comments you're getting in the mentions that are like, yeah, well, you can't do that. I'm like, bro, like, you invade somebody's personal space. You use a word like that. And you talk about somebody's family. That's like the holy trinity of like, I'm going to snatch that phone and, and, uh, and, and

gronk spike it. And honestly, it was if we, yeah, Bo, you haven't even been talking. Talk to me about what you thought about. about the Kelsey thing. I've been dying to talk about this. I think the most underappreciated aspect of this entire saga, the entire video is my guy, Kels had an open garage beer in his hand and was also carrying a case of beer

and didn't spill a single fucking drop. Yeah, it didn't even, he just had it like beer, hand, hand beer, case of beer, completely unfazed. But yeah, I mean, I'm with you on that. It was, I think I got like a hundred texts when that, shit popped and honestly like i think the amount of time i spent with kelse over the last couple months especially the summer i was with him a lot he has been getting like harassed man like you guys

are barking up the wrong tree here i think it was kind of due for some sort of situation like this i know he probably isn't learned from it whatever blah blah blah i'm interested to hear what he has to say about on new heights and a monday night football but impressive that he was carrying a beer and a case of beer at the same time and in the same hand like that is just that's a performer for you That's not a guy you want to make upset. You know, guys carrying the beer and the case of beer in the same hand, Bo. I mean, that's just not the guy you want to pick out upset. And I just, hey, another reminder that in today's world,

and I'm not trying to big brother everybody, and I'm not trying to sound like the big tough guy. But like, I'm not saying it's me that if you say something like that too, that's going to, you know, it's going to end up bad for you. Like, I might have restraint. I don't know. There's a lot I have to lose. I might be with my family.

I might not want to fight somebody in front of my kids. I might not want to have to walk over and hand my toddler to somebody the way my dad did in the 80s at the Coliseum. Okay? Everyone ain't going, man. I'm also not 26 anymore. But you run up on the wrong person like that. The problem is in today's world, everything is clout.

No, yeah. And I don't mean to paint with a wrong brush. I was waiting for facts to talk about the cloud demons. It's the drug. But like, this is like ultimately, if you think about it for that kid, like, this is what you want? Like, if you really think about this and you plan on doing this, what other, what else do you ultimately want?

I feel like this is what you want because you can't think of anything. What's the logical end? You know what I mean? That's what, it's the clout. But I got this guy to emot at me to show his emotion in the way. It's not worth it. No, it's not. You know what I'm saying? Now everybody hates you.

And then pick someone who's not so rich because you have to realize some people have money to beat you up and then pay for it later like and not care like it's not worth it it's literally not worth and you can say hey that's not the right reaction all that but like hey when you leave things to chance with people's emotions you cannot predict what happens so like that's the point is like if you want to make somebody upset and then say hey well that was my right to say whatever i wanted to say in a public space and then it's not your right to react that way well yeah under the law but like he and then the law doesn't govern situations like that and then jason let him slide for like a little while and kept going and it's like don't do it i don't want to get too

into this my my my laptop's about to die so i'm going to plug that in and you got them labeled now the producer's got everything for me that tanner you smoke the other thing i wanted to say is america's teams people that vote whoever you're voting for go vote i've already voted um i'm not saying that like look at me i fucking voted but um you know you you have the right you might as well um i personally and nick bosa's words it is an important time i mean it may be in a different way but i'm not going to beat you over the head with my political leanings um i would just tell you to like go vote because it's not that hard it really isn't it's really not you just got to make sure you color that circle in all the way you know what i'm saying i was in there like

like high school. You got to fill in the bubble. You got to fill in the bubble all the way, bro. So, and hey, whatever happens, and you know I have my preference of what happens, but whatever happens, I hope we can figure out how to go down the road as a united country, like a united front

and try to figure our problems out. Obviously, I have a lien and I have a way that I wanted to go, but like I'm just one person. go vote um hey uh that's the last of the america's teams we're going to get in sunday night football shall we sunday night um listen i think for indy comes out and bo did you get a chance to watch this one i watch this entire game school baby one thing i thought was cool i was little jealous um one of my you know kind of a homie from back in the day jami erd all she's on good morning football she's kind of like the it girl in minotanka when i was growing up she's from my neck of the woods she

blew the giant skull viking's horn to start off the game so i was a jealous about that wanted to give her a shout up but yeah i watched the entire but i bow did you know that that's not real she's not really if you believe it's real it's real it's really it's about as real as santa claus because i think there's a red button now everybody knows that it's that you thought it was really an acoustic thing i don't mean to that rule i just want to be like i just want to be like like Gimley, bro, with the horn of Helmhammer hands. So they don't, they can't find some one that, like, actually can, like, blow one of those. I don't know that that thing is, like, a thing you really can.

I don't think it has the, like, like, acoustics. I don't think it's really made. I think it's a big decorative horn with a red button on it that triggers like the sound speakers. But last, you know, last night I was like, there's the red button, dude. No, they're not fraud. They're fraud. No, they're not.

And I also want to say this. Possibly, I might give it out in mentions, but I'll do it right now. But like, you know, the indie, the basement in Minnesota, the Wabash Cave or what are you doing that? Where Chris Collinsworth sounded like he wanted to go get shit-faced in there like immediately what he saw it. And I felt the same damn way. It was like a Prohibition era bunker looking thing.

Wabash Street Caves. Oh, it looks amazing. We need to go there. I don't know why we'd be back in Minnesota. I'm not familiar. That's at the bank. Is that at the bank? I don't know. It's not at the bank. It's like in town somewhere. It was like improbate.

South shore of Mississippi River in downtown St. Paul, Minnesota. St. Paul. All right. Let's go. It's in the other city. Okay. Is the Vikings horn real? That's the green light pole that just came out. There's still 25% of people that think it's a real horn. Let's just go to the game. Okay. Here's what it was. And I don't think Flacco not playing well in this scenario is like reason to say, hey, Flacco shouldn't be the guy. I mean, like honestly, you could say, hey, maybe Richardson might have looked better because of some of the play extension or, you know, in some of these situations where they're mugging up and they're dropping a bunch of guys and they're rushing for, maybe he'd be able to hurt him with his legs. Because Flacco really didn't hurt him with his arm. But I think every other week we've seen, like look at the completion percentage, look at how efficient, relatively speaking, Joe's been compared to Anthony and the turnovers as well. So this is not a good game for Joe Flacco. you also have to remember Joe Flago's been around a while, and so is Brian Flores.

And I feel like he probably feels like he knows him pretty well. I think Indy's opportunity to win this game, and it was a real opportunity. They had a couple real opportunities. They squandered going on the road and taking a lead, like a multi-score lead. They had an opportunity to go down. And when you're on a script,

you know, I really believe this. Your script is your best stuff, right? it's if you can score first especially on the road you take the ball i don't know if they won the toss or what but they get the ball first they go on a drive they're moving the rock they're on script and they botch a handoff it's a 40 year old quarterback who's done this a million times and one of the best running backs in the league and you know that to me is like when that happened i kind of thought to myself they might still win this game but this was their best shot to go to there and get points out of the gate they also missed the field goal um as a result of an illegal shift and a negative

play and then you know fast forward delayed in the game but i thought they had chances at the end of the third um they got to they got to have it to start off fourth quarter you go 80 Mitchell you remember that circus catch that toe tap on the sideline which was incredible I still couldn't believe you got two feet in great young player um and then they get to third and eight and what do you do you throw the ball right to murphy and it was like josh down's like palms up like where was that going big bro and you know flacco again the next third and eight bad decision had taylor in the flat went to pitman just all night it just felt like he didn't quite know where to go with the ball and so i want to credit minnesota for playing a great game defensively bflow having a great game plan

because for a lot of this game it looked like and i'm talking about the first half minnesota wasn't playing their best and those interior guys were wrecking the game and i'm talking about steward the triangle of terror yeah yeah yeah i texted our group chat it was like if i hear this shit one more time if i have to see people's pff grades uh on the intro one more time seriously uh but to me like the colts if they want to win this game they really need to come out early uh it was It wasn't the best performance from the Vikings. They had a lot of mistakes. Their kicking game was weak.

They had turnovers and things like that, but they still overcame and won. I think for me, it's a little bit of what you said. Like, Blacko's been around for a while. He's a completely different quarterback than Anthony Richardson. We know that. That's kind of the whole point. That's why he's starting is to give this offense something different, try to get them in rhythm.

And so I think what they need to try to do is get to their run game a little bit more. Use JT, Wisconsin stud. I'm going to look it up right now, but I think they only had like 60 or 70 yards rushing, 68 yards rushing. But for me, if the Colts want to be, you know, successful and they want to be the team that they are trying to be under Flacco, they need to run the hell out of the ball, protect it,

play good defense, and then hit like those deep play action passes to like Alec Pierce, you know, things like that. They just really didn't, it didn't ever feel like they got going. And I think the Vikings kind of allowed them to hang in. there a lot more than you know yeah i mean the vikings are a better team like you know we knew that coming in we just thought maybe it was a spot where and and it was like where the viking started a little bit slow uh you know obviously i don't know what the the what in tarnation sam darnals looking at on that first red zone trip and some of the shines coming off him a little bit but you know i

still think he's plenty capable to lead this team to the playoffs and and take him on a run i see a really good football team when I see this team playing. And, you know, like, listen, I, I, they get Hawkinson back. There's a process with, you know, re, re, I don't know what, reestablishing his place. Reintegrating. Yeah, reintegrating him. You obviously, the Jefferson throwback screen was, was awesome on 1316.

You know, I do think the Vikings have got hosed on a couple calls in a two-week span. obviously the face mask. And not so obviously this time. I mean, there were still forcible contact to the head on the, it's one that I'm not crazy about, but by the letter of the law, that's got to be called probably. That's the penalty. And I think if you're a Vikings fan, you're justifiably upset about that, especially coming off of that egregious missed face mask. And like, everyone's kind of dogging on Bradbury for getting run over by, who was it, Grover Stewart, that sack. But like, he snapped the ball. He clearly stepped on the right guard's foot and then just got bulldozed people don't see that

they never see the foot no that happens all the time yeah they never see that thing whenever you see a o-leiman go down in the first you know two two milliseconds of a play or whatever like that he's he's getting step-th check the feet check the feet like i watch tape with alley marpet a lot yeah stuff like that and it's so funny when you watch tape as a d-linman with an o-leiman i'm like oh that's a sick bull rush he's like he has footsteps on like what you're talking about no question but people don't care And so, yeah, like, listen, I think the positives for the Vikings are Robinson comes in midweek starts, plays really well.

He was actually surprisingly, in my opinion, a very big part of the run game. Had a penalty stuff like that. But that's really good to come in in a couple days. Also credit to Kevin O'Connell, you know, who I didn't think had his best day, like early on in this game. But you can, you can believe when they came out in the second half, he was, they were cooking. you know because if you give that guy a couple minutes and Gus Bradley's the guy on the other side and I like Gus and everything but that's a little bit more of a vanilla scheme you know they brought a little bit more pressure but generally speaking I would give the edge to that offensive coordinator that head coach

and so you know like they they were hitting Jefferson on dig routes they loved that it was finally late in the game indie got keen to that they picked off Minnesota the second time and that really gave indy another opportunity they just couldn't make the most of their opportunities I wanted to shout out Cam Robinson, though, as well as just the coaches for getting this team ready to play on a week where, like, listen, coming off two losses in a row, you come home, that can be a tough deal. If you start slow in your building, you're down multiple scores possibly, you know, and it's kind of quiet. You know, people in Minnesota, they're not really the boo type crowd. But, you know, if that game was in Philly, maybe they're getting booed a little bit in the first

half. People can get tight. So to come out in the second half and do what they did, especially with the kicker missing multiple kicks. First time not scoring 10 points in the half, maybe all year, Reed. This season, yeah, yeah. This season. And so, you know, just a gutsy win for the Vikings. I don't think it tells us a ton we didn't know. And I don't think it tells us a ton we didn't know about Indy, you know.

But it was football night in America. So we had to hit that off the top. And we talked about the slow starts, or sorry, the fast starts, but the slow second halfs that they had. this was the Vikings third time under three seasons with Kevin O'Connell that they didn't score in the first half, but ended up winning the game. Right.

The other two times was 2021, the Colts game that they came back, they were down 33-0, and they came back. Oh, my God. And then the Raiders that they won 3-0. Or best comebacks, worst collapses ever. I remember the Nick Mullins' Raiders game. Yep.

That was ridiculous. That was ridiculous. Yeah. I thought we were going to get. a scoreless game for a lot of it or whatever it was, three nothing. And the reason why this is really another, like, insult to injury for Colts fans, why this sucked is because the Colts, their defense played really, really well. Yeah, they did.

And it's like for a game for them to play this well and your quarterback doesn't, like, really help on the offensive end. Like Zaire Franklin and DeForest Buckner played out of control. Zaire was great. Zaire kind of like bit him out. I think he's the leading tackler in the NFL. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, he's good. He's all over the field. No, no, but here's the deal. I mean, this is. Who is the NFL in tackles? But here's the deal. There's been games where they've given up a lot on defense. Absolutely. And, you know, like I can think about the Jacksonville game

where Flackos keep in a minute. So, you know, it's the ebb and flow of the deal. I don't know this team really has an identity right now. Yeah, and it's like they can't get it together on both sides at the same time. Yeah, and they're not a bad team. They're actually, there's a decent team in there. a team that honestly can cause some people problems if they get it together, you know, a quarterback.

But at the end of the day, it's like if you don't have an identity and I don't know what their identity is right now, you can't separate. You know, they're kind of in the pack. You know, they're kind of a, they're the consummate like above league league average team. You know, it's just they're going to be tough. Yeah, going to shock some team weight, you know, kind of. It should be run game. I mean, their identity should be run game.

And I think I think that's what the Anthony Richardson pick, you know, you make that pick with that in mind. You've got quarterback run. You've got a physicality with that guy with the ball in his hands. It's great. But if you can't stay on schedule, you can't be a run team. So when you're missing speed outs and little comebacks and, you know, you can't hit a ball in the flat, like that's part of the reason they make this move because, you know, they want to be a run team. They want to be a run team. I'm not going to lie, though, Chris.

I was a little disappointed in Flacko. Like, I was expecting a little bit more from him. He's a 39-year-old quarterback. You see Flores' defense, like, really confuse protections and younger quarterbacks. And I was kind of hoping that he would kind of come out and really put an end to, like, the quarterback controversy a little bit. Right. He really, I don't know. He didn't do much.

But I thought one of the things I thought was really interesting is just watching these two defense, like you said, Nate, the Colts defense played really well. the triangle of pain. But it's just, it's two very different defensive philosophies, right? So B-Flow is a lot of confusing blitzes, a lot of versatile players that play in, you know, all sorts of different positions and a lot of pre-snap, you know,

pre-snap confusion, hidden coverages, shit like that. Whereas I feel like the Colts, they're just four down, cover three, don't blitz a lot, get vertical. They've been blitzing more, but very basic. More about their player, you know what I mean? Yeah. They just need their players to play well defensively. If they want to play well defensively.

So that's one thing I thought was interesting in this game. And the Colts defense did play well. So, I mean, I still think Indianapolis will do well in the AFC South. Because the way the Texans have been lately and, you know, the Jags still kind of hang in there, man. Like they don't lose games by much. No, you're right about that. They don't lose games by much when they went to Buffalo. Let's talk about the NFC because that's one of the best teams in the NFC.

Let's look at the standings here as we get ready to talk about the best team in the NFC, which is the Lions. They proved it again yesterday. I mean, the Lions and the damn commanders are up here with seven wins. Like if you had told me a team in Washington and team in Detroit are going to be ruling the football world on the side of the NFC, like five years ago. I mean, look at this. Detroit, Washington, Atlanta, Arizona.

And we have a ton of clarity in the NFC already. Like six of these seven teams are probably 80% or better to make the playoffs. Not the NFC West though. If you look at, yeah, right, both. So if you look at like Packers, Eagles, Vikings, Falcons, commanders, lions. Those guys are all pretty much locks at this point two games ahead. NFC West could go any way. Big news just came out.

Christian McCaffrey is eligible to return this week. Oh, boy. And it's on track to play. Oh, my fantasy team is still alive. My son is going to be hyped about that too. Are she one and seven? Let's go. I'll tell you who's not hyped about that, though, every team in the NFC West.

And honestly, go back to the standings. I mean, like, look at teams like the Bears, for instance. They have to win a wildcar birth. They're not winning the north with the way they're playing and the way they've fallen out of it. And we thought they'd slide into a wild card and strength that defense. We're going to get ready to talk about them in a little bit. There are other teams on here. where you're just like, I don't know if they can outpace the Rams.

I don't know if they can outpace the Seahawks. I don't know. You know, there are some teams, if you go down in three win, you know, Dallas and geez, Carolina's got two wins. How about Dallas is only a game ahead of Carolina? Oh. Wow. Which team would you rather be on, though, Chris?

The Carolina Panthers. It is much better to be on a bad team without expectations than a bad. bad team with expectations imagine tours walking through the locker room right now oh my god terrible it would be absolutely terrible bro just the way they rent that fucking facility out to whoever whoever whoever uh so anyways we fucking talk let's look at the best team in the nfc that's the lions man and you we started the show telling you everything we got right like i thought the packers would cover in this game. I really did. And honestly, it was a game where, and I don't, I don't want to do that. Detroit fans, I'm not trying to say it was close, but from a standpoint of the yardage gained and, you know,

kind of the flow of the game, for a while there, you thought maybe, I mean, definitely for the first 15 minutes of the game, you thought this is going to be a low possession game. It's going to be about the red zone, which it was. And it's going to be about taking care of the football, which it was. and the Lions did a better job of all those things. They just, you know what's so impressive about this damn team? It doesn't matter what they did last week. It never does. And like that to me is a sign of a really well coached team.

So like, you know, Dan Campbell coming off a blowout, whether it's a blowout or a shootout in Minnesota or, you know, a blowout at home where you beat the Titans 52 to whatever it is, the next week you got this divisional game. not only you're not looking ahead to the divisional game and you're taking care of the Titans, you're taking care of the divisional game, you know, and to me, this is twice now that Packers at home had a chance in division to prove that they're where we thought they might be. They're not where we thought they might be.

I still think they're a very good team. I do think, honestly, the weather affected them ironically more than they affected Detroit. And I'm one of these people that thought that, you know, wet ball, that might not be the best situation for Jared golf. I mean, Tom Brady said it during the broadcast. So I'm not the only idiot out here. I thought that I thought maybe they'd come down to earth a little bit, but they didn't. And it's not like you have to ask the quarterback to do too damn much in that situation. You shouldn't. It's 49 degrees. It's pissing rain. What he has to do is make those throws in the red zone, which he did and which Jordan Love didn't do. You look at that first possession. The Packers go down

and they have an opportunity to score and cash in on an eight, nine minute drive. And with the possession on the line, you're off target. And, you know, the ball's wet. Okay, usually I say, if it hits you in the hands, you got to catch it.

But in this situation, if you're a quarterback who gets paid a lot of money, I know you're playing hurting all this, and I'm a big fan of Jordan loves, you have to make those throws. You have to put the ball in front of Wix in the second half. Like, yes, could you say Wix needs a

catch that ball in the end zone? Absolutely. But it is pissing rain. You don't take anything off and you put him behind him. I know the injury has something to do with some of the throws. But at the end of the day, I almost felt like as the game went on, that Malik Willis might have been better suited for a game like this where you just say, hey, we're going to embrace the identity. We're going to stop trying to push the ball down the field. The problem in this game is Jordan Love tried to do too much because he didn't do enough early. You know, if you cash in on that first possession, at least you're hanging in there, but the problem is you didn't, and Detroit went right down the field, and guess what they did? Their quarterback who's playing like an MVP

with two gloves on makes that throw to Amman Raus St. Brown. They're not asking these quarterbacks in this game to do a ton unless you end up down two scores, and you don't want to go down two scores in a fucking monsoon. So that's kind of the way it ends up for me is like Detroit came into this game. We worried about the elements for them. Green Bay is going to play in the elements a lot. They have to be better. They have to be more disciplined. They dropped the ball five, six times. They had a bunch of penalties. They're one of the most penalized teams in the league. And Detroit on the other end played like a team that plans on playing deep into January and February. And this is why we put them in the damn bowl, you know, because they, because they're well coached ironically. Like, you know, the guy who was

biting kneecaps day one and everybody wrote off as this dumb meathead who's got one of the best coached football teams in the league, one of the most unselfish football teams in the league. And when they go on the road and playing a divisional game like this, they had their shit together. Like, you know, you could say the game would be different if you don't, if you hit that field goal. Well, it'd be different if craft doesn't drop the ball and third down. It would definitely be different if you don't, if you hit that field goal and you're saying to yourself, and this is the problem with playing the lines and going down is they choke you out. Like, it felt like an anaconda situation. Like they just slowly squeeze the life out of you. And to me, the biggest play of the

game was probably, if not the field goal, it was the drop that preceded at the missed field goal that would have made it 7-6. Instead, the lions go the length, right? And now you've got to score with not a lot of time left in the first half because you know coming out, you might not just go down two scores, but it might be halfway through the third quarter because of the way the lions play. So when Jordan Love gets the ball back, he's playing hero ball. And to me, that's the problem. And Tom Brady said it, he hit the nail in the head late in the third. When he almost threw him another one, just make the throw. You know, just make the throw.

And another thing Detroit does really well, just on strength to have in these guys, is they got Sonic and Knuckles. You know, they have two backs, and they're very different in the way they run the football. So for defenses, every possession is different. The things you have to key in on are different, the whole thing. And Bo, you know how this is. Like, Jamir Gibbs is going to run the ball differently than David Montgomery.

You're going to see different concepts. You're going to see different things in the passing game. And then juxtapose to the Packers, who have a really good. back. I actually like that back just as much as the other guys, Josh Jacobs, but there's only one of them on that roster that plays like that. And the problem is you play a team like the Lions. And if it were going to be a grinded out game, I turned in Nolan in the first quarter. And I said, I wonder if Josh is going to wear it down if they have to give them the ball a lot. Whereas the other guys, they got two of these guys. And so it's just another built-in deal for Detroit where they're just

built differently. And if they become this team, they can go anywhere, play in any weather, play out, outside, playing the rain, playing the snow. They're going to be held doing it. That's what they are. That's what he said. He's like, we'll play him in the mud. We'll play him in the snow, whatever, you know, like how he talks. But I think what's so interesting is like, okay, the Detroit Lions are the class of the NFL right now.

Crazy. You were to ask me 10 years ago, I'd have been like, what are you smoking? But what's so fun to me is the lions like really do have a chip on their shoulder, man. You see Amun Rao St. Brown come into the, into Lambo, one of the most historic. you know what I mean in fields in the NFL he's wearing a green base sucks sweatshirt like that's kind of funny that's kind of funny what's his name branch gets ejected gets ejaculated yeah so for people that can we say what so you don't people don't think you're just it's a Freudian slip ML football is so desperate for clicks and I gave it to him I mean I'll hand up your favorite account

bro that account now like it's so funny how all the aggregators are different. Dove climbing is just after whoever the new Dove climbing is just after engagement and like you know kind of salacious stuff and like putting people in bad spots kind of like the TMZ of the football world.

ML football is like literally Joel Olstein now. Everything's about like this guy prayed like nobody's ever prayed in the NFL before or or it's just like the occasional intentional ejaculation spelling.

Like, I don't even know what M.O. football is doing. And then I think Ari Miroff is certified. He's actually a good aggregator. He's actually, he went over a 33rd team, and he's actually talking ball. So just a little guide to the aggregators there. Did you agree with the ejection? I wanted to say, though, they have a chip on their shoulder, man, and they play hard as hell, and you have to love it.

Like, they just do it. Each week, they find something to, like, get pissed about and rally behind as a team. And it's like, it's kind of just shocking to me how they're all always so cohesively on the same page about some sort of perceived slight or injustice. And I love it. Like it's great. I mean, like think about the Cowboys game a couple weeks ago. I don't know. Like they always, they just seem to have such a cohesive locker room and like togetherness.

I feel like you don't really. I so agree with you. And then somebody, Brett C just said in the chat, ML football on the galaxy gas. Hey, listen, Bo doesn't know what Galaxy gas is. Yeah, what is that? It's like a new drug. It's nitrous. It's what the new, the clout generation is into.

Like, they want to die faster than us. They want to get more clout than us. Everything's instant gratification with this fucking generation. I sound like old man yelling at a cloud. But here, hey, bro, interior guys. This is the key to the game for me, was the interior guys for the Packers, did not wreck the game. And so for that,

I can't wait to dig into the All-22 a little bit more and see who really, really played well up front for Detroit. But I actually think Penn A Sewell had one of those steps-on situations. I'm talking about, yeah, like, but I'm talking about, I'm talking about Detroit's. I'm talking about Detroit's offensive line. Detroit's offensive line not giving up a lot of interior pressure was big to me.

And so, you know, and they also got to pick their spots. you know, that's kind of a, it's kind of a saving grace for Detroit is like in the weather. We're not going to let you tee off. You know we're not going to be throwing the ball a bunch. We're going to run the rock. And, you know, it's time to transition on a wet field and play action. That's tough. So I really look forward to seeing round two from these teams.

I think it'll be a better game. But Detroit, I got the win total at 10 and a half or whatever I got it at. Bro, it is, it's cake. Like, it's cake. This team, along with the Washington, and commander so i got it six and a half has already hit knock on wood no i know i'm just going to go ahead and i mean and some lions fan they're going to go on a skit at some point lions fans are going to be like you jankst it like that's how it works

um you see in the chat they're calling lions a Ferrari with mud tires this is funny um louis enrique justiniano said uh golf was 11 11 at one point in a monsoon they said that on the broadcast they were like in a monsoon it was nuts dude i mean I mean, like, hats off to this team, hats off to Jared Goff. And with a depth target downfield, right? Yeah, no question. You would not like screens and stuff. He was shooting.

There were some screens, but he was hit in the middle of field just like he normally does. And the way they can manipulate space in there is just like. Who was it? Watson. Watson got to go get his eyes checked. Yeah. Yeah. He had a lot of depth issues.

He had death issues. He was like jumping, but not sure when to jump. You know who else does a great job of getting space in the middle field is Miami. And I think golf is like a legitimate guy. You know, I think the other guy is like a solid player and everything. But like I think golf, the way he can take advantage of that space in the middle of field, you know, it's so hard with that run game. Being a backer playing the fucking Lions has to, that has to be the worst. It has to be like back when I looked at my schedule and would see like some all pro tackle and you kind of circle that one.

You'd be like, that's going to be a tough sled in that day. To play at the second level and play the Detroit Lions is, is. tough so um we've asked yeah you're getting exposed you're not ready yeah exactly you guys want to i want to ask you i want to ask you about that ejaculation before we move on sure i thought that was weak i did not like it oh yeah yeah and then for brady to comment on it kind of created that whole interesting discourse about him now as an owner of the raiders and he can't criticize refs and blah blah blah what did you uh did you think that that was justified i listen to me It's two conversations.

Do I think it's the right rule? Do I think, I don't think that's how it should be. I don't think a guy should get ejected for that hit. So like, but if, if by the letter of the law, it's an ejection, then we need to look at the rules. Like, we can't look at the referees or the officials upstairs and say, hey, you're wrong. If by the letter of the law, that's the right thing.

Like, then the rule is the problem, not the execution of the rule. And I didn't, I don't love that. You know, like in the manifestation of that rule is that, then I don't love that because yeah it was forcible and yeah he had an opportunity to slow down and get out of the way but it's like when you take a guy like Brian Branch off the field there are hits that I watched it I'm like that was a little bit much that was a little bit much but that was a little bit much but that was a little bit much but maybe I'm just being a meatball about it but I got to be honest with you I can think around this thing for five minutes and watch it a hundred times but I just feel like that's a lot to lose a guy like Brian Branch early in the game because he loaded up and tried to give a guy a shot now He hit him right in the head, and that's probably where he gets into trouble. Did you see the whole lion's secondary posting on social media? They posted the same picture of Branch throwing the double bird. I love that.

That's great. Yeah. Before we leave this game, we've got to select our MRP from Friday show. So somebody asks a good question. Trora, what happens if there is intent to harm? You can't throw them out. Like, that's the hard thing about- Well, he's intent to harm.

There always is, right? it's really like harming above the head and neck area which it again this is that this is the point is like i'm not up here crusade and all pissed off about them throwing branch out i don't like it but i also understand it so like you know i know my thing is i'm supposed to have a very demonstrative take i don't have one here you know i think ultimately the game has changed and uh and you know guys got to play by the rules but i didn't think that was like a head hunter i don't think it was a great this yeah it definitely

Definitely. And the problem is we watch it in slow motion so much that it's just, it's really hard to like, they don't go back and show it. I wish they go back and show it at full speed. Exactly. Yeah, like. The slow mo people are like, oh, he could have moved. And maybe he could have. And maybe he could have. But the point is, that's a really, really good quote. Intent to harm there always is. Yeah. No, anyways. MRP. We got to pick our. Oh, we got to pick our MRP. Oh, we got to pick our MRP. Why don't you guys talk about it for a second? When I get back from the bathroom, I'll pick from a group of finalists. So throw out a couple. And again, this is our Greenlight Most Random Player. We threw it out on Friday.

Lions Packers was the game of the week. Make sure to catch our Friday show. So you can enter your most random player. The winner will get a piece of Greenlight merch. A couple of the, a couple ones, Packers, T.J. Duckett, Jvon Walker, also a former Bronco. We had Tony Sheffler, another former Bronco for the Lions,

job at best. And this is probably the first MRP, who is one of the first named MRPs who also commented. George Foster was someone named him as their MRP and then he also commented and said, George Foster said,

Chris, I can't believe he didn't say big grease. I don't know if you caught that last part. George Foster was, uh, oh yeah, he was called out as an MRP. But then he also commented and said, can't believe Chris didn't say big Greece. Who's big Greece? I don't know. I guess no one knows, except George Foster. But you know what?

That might be his nickname or something that I didn't know. Yeah. But, uh, but I was saying he's the first MRP who was selected by the people and to comment on an MRP. So you should tag your MRPs, man. Yeah. Like Aaron Campman's on Twitter. Um. Yeah.

What up? Aaron Campman. I love Aaron. Dude, I'd assigned it. You know how, like, I saw a meme the other day? Like, there's nothing like a random white wide receiver that you love when you're in middle school. You know what I mean? That was Aaron Camden for me.

I had to sign Aaron Campman photo in my bedroom growing up as a Minnesota high school football. One of my, one of my, like, favorite best teammates. It was just, just one of the best, like, dad. Like a dad. Dad figure. Yeah. And like a guy that you can learn a lot and ask questions. he had a lot of knowledge because when I got to play with him, he was kind of like on his last leg out.

But seeing a guy that like just you can tell he loved the game. Yeah. And like when guys get older and you're fighting through injuries, it takes a lot to get up every day and be on a bad team and have a purpose to still play. Yeah. No question. It's really ultimately that you love the game and he was a guy that you can tell that. And from the short time he was my teammate, like that's one thing. I remember.

Shots fired at the 2012 Jags. Bro, I mean, what do you say? Yeah, no, I know. I know. When you get rid of the sweater back. You play with Jared Allen too, right? Yep. You got Jared Al and Aaron Katman.

Yeah. Two white goats. Yeah, you play with a couple of white goats there. The Great whites. And Chris Long. Don't forget Chris Long at Virginia. You can put me in. You can't put any of us in the college great white.

You can't put, yeah, but you can't put us in the fucking Jared Allen category. That's a whole different category. Yeah, I was on his team. Me and Camman are in the same genus. Okay. You know what I mean? But Jared Allen's a whole other species of white. Yeah, yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Rodeo. Me and Camden wear your standard whites. Rodeo. Use the long arm, stuff like that. Jared Allen's long arm was like he could touch you from, but the problem with Jared Allen was he was technical. And he had that like game changing.

Twitch and length. And he had really, like, thin hips. You know what I mean? Like, I didn't mean to be, but, you know, like, there's some guys that are like wide hip, and some guys. You could just, he was, he had that, like, slender guy athleticism. He's, like, six, eight, bro. Like, his, his length and the technique, bro.

He was incredible. So. I got him in an epic selfie that he probably didn't want to take with a group of us on the Bears. Oh, really? A few weeks before I got cut. So I got a selfie with him? Glad I got it.

No, he seemed like a good dude. Who else we got here? What's the final? Jeff Janice. Jeff Janice. We had Johnny Jolly, Tom Crabtree, Tony Schepleer. Johnny Jolly was a tight end? I believe so.

No B.J. Rock? Yeah, blocking tight end too. B.J. Rodgie? Mike Furry? Mike Furry? No one said B.J. Mike Furry, you might be the guy. Hold on.

What are what Mike Furry is doing right now? Mike Furry. I think I saw he was coaching college with South Carolina, maybe. That's a musical artist, Mike Furry. doesn't look like a NFL player. Okay, give me a couple more names. We had T.J. Duckett, Jvon Walker, Don Mulback. I'll know it when you tell me.

Ricky Jean Francois. Okay, I like him a lot. Ed O'Neill, not to be confused with the actor, Joach Bell, job at best. Doug Peterson was named. Amad Green, Corey Slishinger. Slishinger. Yeah, I remember, slushing her.

Schlesinger, Kyler Fackle. When did Corey Slesinger play? Like the 90s? I might have to give it to this guy. He, uh... Look at him, bro. Cory Schlesinger. Is he a fullback?

95 to 2006. Yeah, fullback. Yeah, I think Cory Slesinger wins. I think Corey Sleshanger wins. That's our MR. Perfect. Pull up a picture of him. Yeah.

I didn't even see the position, but the pitcher just screams fullback. Pull up that picture. Look at that neck and face. Look at his neck and face. Look at that neck roll. Yeah, you gotta have the roll. What's he doing right now? He can't turn his neck.

I can guarantee you. I can barely turn my neck. I didn't run ISO 40 times again. I wonder if the guys were a neck roll, like back then, if they were wearing a neck roll and a guardian cap together, like what that would look like. Here was my question about the guardian cap.

If you ball out, like if you're A. Chan, and you become like a Hall of Famer and say you win the Super Bowl for the Dolphins on like a walk off, and they put a statue up of you outside the stadium is it a statue with guardian cap like and how fucked up does that look it probably looks it probably looks awesome something about the guardian cat just through the normal statue with the like bronze helmet and then like the literal guardian cap on top oh yeah that's funny yeah you got to protect the statue okay okay what's next commies we got to talk about the commies

Quick commie combo. Quick commie convo. Listen, commies, this is an NFL game. You know, Steelers were struggling with the Giants for a while. You know, the Giants have played a couple teams close. It played the Bengals close who were not cooked. By the way, let me get, you hear that grill clanging around since the, oh, my goodness. A little bit early here.

Can we go to the wide shot? We got the Cincinnati Bengals right here. That's a push. What do you mean? You're pushing it. What do you mean? They're uncooked. They're not cooked.

Here we got some. You want some? Yeah. Really? It's been sitting out here a while. Are you going to eat it? You eating that sushi that's been sitting out here a while? Fear fact.

Raw dog salmon? Oh my God. He just raw dogs some grocery short salmon without any soy sauce. How did that taste? He's eating the cats. He's eating the cats. It's good. He's eating the best.

bangles because the bangles are uncooked and now it smells like sashimi in here um but i don't even know what we're talking about we're talking about the commies yeah okay first half stateline for daniel jones was like four yards uh zero yards four zero yards four zero yards in a touchdown interesting thing somebody i mean i've seen this four of eight i've seen this written a couple times and y'all brought it up today was was that the uh that the giants could bench daniel jones because if he keeps playing and risks injury they could potentially owe him way more money next year 23 million in injury guarantee so next season before anybody else says it does it remind you of another situation russ russ okay and i cannot wait to see everybody that was really up in arms about the treatment

of russell wilson to do the same thing for daniel jones this is actually the perfect guy to be the antithesis of of d of russell wilson that like we are he is one of the most hated people a quarterback in the NFL amongst sports media folks so are we going to get super mad now because the Giants do the right thing for their pockets and sit him down in a couple weeks

I'm not going to be mad I can't wait to see if people are consistent about it they probably won't be they definitely won't be but yeah I would sit him down if we got to owe more money next year I'd sit him down you're not like at this point this team is kind of out of it

Cook. Cook. So you know what? I was at tip top local like breakfast brunch spot this weekend. And it brought a tear to my eye, Chris. I seen an elderly old white woman walking in and she had on a crispy brand new Jaden Daniels jersey on. And I was just like, oh really? That is so fire.

Yeah. That just to see that. Yeah. It seemed like just not knowing anything about this lady. It's like she's probably been a Redskins turned commanders fan for however long. And now to have your team and your franchise to really like, yeah, you have days when you were good, but like not for a long, long time. And now to see it turn and to have faith and kind of see that. She bought that jersey.

No, she had, bro. That's a new one. She bought it. Like it still had folds in it. Like he just bought it or just got it. And it was brand new. and I was like, I said to my girl, I said, look, that's, like she spent like 150 plus dollars on that jersey. And she was rocking it.

She was smelling something at tip top. It wasn't the hash grounds. Championship. In her lifetime, maybe. You know what I'm saying? For sure. If you've been a commanders fan your whole life, say you're one of those people that haven't been, you know, a commander's fan. I got a lot of friends that are, like, my age that are commanders fans.

You might say, how? Yeah. Well, because they grew up at D.C. or their parents like the commanders or the Redskins at the time. And shout out to our old teammate. His dad just got his jersey retired on. Darryl Green. Daryl Green.

Really? Yeah. They just retired a jersey? I think a few weeks ago, I believe so. They were doing a jersey retirement for him there. God, took them long enough. It did. I guess he did play until he was like 45.

But at least now you've got fans paying attention, so got some recognition. Tough two game stretch coming up here for the comedy. Steelers at home on Sunday before heading to the link on Thursday night. That's a tough one. That's when I think they could stumble in the Steelers game. And obviously it all kind of comes down to the Eagles and these guys in the East right now. So do I feel confident in beating the commanders twice? No, but I feel confident that we can maybe beat them once. You know, I think they're a damn good team.

And I think it's going to be a hell of a matchup, them and the Eagles. Like, honestly, I cannot wait to get into breaking that game down. like from every position group and seeing where we might have an edge or where it's going to be hell and I say we the Eagles. Yeah, we, I'm an Eagles fan now. I'm an Eagles fan now. You know, so.

Yeah, facts. You were shitting all over the Kelly Greens, man. That's true. Don't remind. Don't remind you. Yeah. What's going on here? I'm an Eagles fan.

Are you trolling or is this? I'm an Eagles fan now. You have no, you have no identity. Well, well, my, my Jaguars are out and they're cooked for this year. And it's like, especially halfway through. this season. So I'm allowed as a fan to jump on to another bandwagon. You're shooting on the Kelly Dream specifically though. Here's the rules. It's a free shirt, bow. You know how free shirts go laying around the office.

Like, what are you going to say to that here real quick? What are you going to say to that? I'll say this. The rule of, in my opinion, when it comes to having a side team, you have to pick it before the season in the future. In the future. You know. But like, I feel like by, that's like the bylaws of having a side team. I know, but I basically invented having a thing. I feel like honestly, if you work here and the Eagles aren't your main team, just by like association. You have to be a little bit of a bad.

The Eagles are your side team. It kind of affects the mood and everything in here from the top down. So like, I might as well just sweat the bets and sweat it with you guys from here on now. Should we get into talking about your favorite team? Yeah. Okay. I'll just say this I know you're going to want me to talk about Nick Siriani

I will I just want to talk about the players on the field first you know for a change I thought the players on the field made some incredible plays and I also thought the game was called really well like I thought the game was called really well like right down to you know that first touchdown where they use motion they go orbit motion get the man ID and they get Sequin on Savage

and he's basically I think he ran what amounts to Red Zone Corner or whatever it is in Madden I run it all the time with Sequin and it worked and you know motion was was up you know they went at Darby a lot

I thought Fred Johnson had a rough day you know like coming down to Earth a little bit there are times where like he's getting chip help and he's on the same page with chipper you know like seven pressures allowed seven pressures allowed like this was coming you know Josh Heinz Allen is

is still a blue chip rusher I don't care what it's been looking like this year for him or for the group but um definitely a good day at the office for the eagles offense there were stretches of this game where they ran the ball continually and um and i thought that was like great to see playmakers made plays that's what nick seriani said at the podium after the game and that was the theme of the game to me like obviously the devante smith catch we can start with that one best catch of the year or no yeah it was sick i mean maybe not the week but that's the whole there were some amazing one-handed catches in the in the NFL last week

week nine had three of air wilson it was sick yeah but that catch was like dude there was this angle from the corner of the end zone and i'm like god damn jalen launched that like i think he overthrew him and even though the word that was phenomenal and he caught the point of the ball bro he had to catch you know like how some guys are you know those two catches were good but even though it like it wasn't like controversial, like we knew it was a touchdown, the walk-off for the Rams last night was sick one-hander. Oh, that was a great one-hander. Like, that's a... And considering who it was on.

That's what I'm saying. That was sick. You know, that was on woolen, I think. But in the game like that? Oh, walk off, one-hander. What? But these guys, I mean, like, back in the day, how many dudes caught the ball with one hand? Was it just a thing where guys woke up one day and they were like, I'm going to start catching the ball with one hand? Now I feel like, that's a totally plausible way to catch the ball.

Well, they practice. You see the warmups every time. They try. You would get in trouble for that. I feel like in our day's growing. But it's part of the game. Like, why are you trying to catch the ball with two hands? And now it's part of the game.

It is part of the game. And it should be part of the game because a lot of these guys, that's the only way they can catch some of these balls. And so, you know, I just take my moment to be a fan. Like I said this in the live, I went live last night. I talked about this. Like, yes, I like the Eagles more than other teams. I played there.

I get the fandom thing, like, which to me makes a lot of sense. it kind of drives with who I am as a guy. You know, I'm pretty miserable. I'm fatalistic. Like, you know, like I'm an Eagles fan, you know. And so, and so, and so I really get it. The Kelly Green's beautiful. I thought that was one of the most beautiful scenes in football.

That catch, that one hand or like the shot of the catch. And on top of it, the guy catching the football is one of my favorite players in the league. Like, and I'm talking about, I've said this a bunch on this show. when my kids ask like what about this guy what about this guy I want to be able to tell him about a guy that they can emulate and I don't think either my kids are going to be NFL wide receivers

okay did you just say your son made a crazy he did he's probably a tight end my dad he's probably a tight end my dad told me I should probably work on my guard sets in high school is what he told me so for all the people that think it was just though he's smooth sailing

my own dad told me hey save those Ivy League letters and work on your guard sets. But no, I've watched Devante Smith and I want to tell my kids, I'm like, man, he does everything right. Watch the way he operates. Watch the teammate he is. Watch how hard he plays. Look how tough he is. And so as a fan watching that catch, I was blown away. It's one of my favorite players, man. And Sequin, I've never seen that in my life. I've never seen it in my life. Didn't know that was a thing. Didn't know was a thing. It's just I can't think of anything

that rivaled that display of athleticism that I've ever seen I mean it was unbelievable But on top of it, it's like the mental thinking Of it all Like it's just the spin move And just noticing Someone about to come and take a real shot at you

And you decide to turn And jump And then the most impressive thing to me is Even though the two guys who kind of helped To get him down They kind of friendly fired And like smashed into to each other.

Like they luckily got that. It's kind of like Lamar went, Lamar went to the sideline and hurtled two guys a week or two ago and they ran into each other. And you're just like, dude, there's some guys on an NFL field that we are all different. Like we are all, three of us on this Zoom as, as fucking standard big guy as we look.

Totally different. We're all freaks. I mean, like we're freaks athletically. Everybody in the NFL is the biggest freak in their high school gym. Oh yeah, yeah. In the county. Yeah. Maybe in the state. But he might be one of the biggest in the league. Bro, he, the delta between dudes. I mean, I've ran around on the field before up in New York chasing him. There's no angle. Like I'm watching guys miss him. I felt like I was inside of a Madden commercial. I did. I felt like I was the cameraman in a Madden commercial where he was shaking all my

teammates. And I all the while, I couldn't figure out what the angle to run after him was. And I was running like with cement boots on. I was 33. But if, If I was 23, I think I'd be marveling at this guy. And the only person that could stop Sequin is himself. Is himself. And the ground. Fumbling the ball in the ground. Which I didn't like, listen, we talk about the brand.

Oh, the ass. I'm a little bit more demonstrative about not liking that call. And I'm not, this in the Homer take. Because that's a slippery slope. You know, if the ground can't cause a fumble and the ground can't cause a fumble, don't, you know, like, I understand that the guy clipped his ankle and everything. And maybe you can argue the letter of the law. but to me, you know, it would be better if we just decided if we watch a play and say,

hey, like the guy didn't cause that fumble the ground did. Maybe we just don't call it. Like that to me was a clear case of, in my opinion, the Eagles should retain possession. But it is what it is. And you end up in a ball game where, hey, they get the two-point conversion and you're turning to me on the couch. I mean, like, I'm watching the other games because I think I have this game in hand. I have a big-ass teaser with the bills and the Eagles.

You grab me by my chest. when you go look when they ran that in and you were like does that count and you were like look and i looked up and i was like oh that was in cruise like two minutes earlier you go watch this aren't they look out because they scored their first touchdown and it was one of those things very eagles you know because i feel like eagles fans the thing i just talked about that like the the the feeling that it's all going to go wrong it happened and and we ended up in a situation we at the end of the game where they're driving for the lead and last year's team, although they won a lot of close games,

down the stretch, they lose that game. The first three weeks of the season, if that happens, they lose the game. You know what's happened? The defense has come together. And I'm not saying they're world beaters. I still think they could use a pass rusher. I still think like in an ideal world,

like they could still use a pass rusher. But Cooper de Gene joining this team healthy at some point, early in the season like in camp he didn't get all his reps but like being able to fully on board the biggest difference in this team's performance today and the first three weeks of the season is this rookie and you know like on the last drive it's nikobie dean who's who's come on in a big way like nicoby dean i'm very happy for as a guy is a high draft pick who kind of like started slow for a year and a half i i definitely feel for this dude especially in a city like philly we're like, hey, I don't know what that's like.

St. Louis was a very easy market to play in. And Kobe Dean, there's a lot of expectation. And, you know, for him to come on and make some of the plays he's made this year, I think Vic Fangio has been a good thing for him. And I think he's playing more confident. You don't throw that 50-50 ball to that running back. And so, yeah, like the defense has become a strength to this team. You know, Cooper de Gene on fourth and short,

that's his second fourth and short play that he's made in a couple weeks. And these are plays that turn the game. And, you know, Lawrence on the sidelines turn into somebody saying I thought Parker Washington was going to block. Yeah. So obviously maybe it was an Emmy or something like that or just poor execution on the pick. But either way, DeGine making that play. And then shout out Sweaty J, Josh Sweat, attacking the weakness.

You know, you lose Cam Robinson. and then they're running games over there, sweats kicking that tackles ass. Zach Bond is truly the underrated signing a year. You know what I mean? Every year there's one of those. And then, you know, the entire defense is just playing better.

So I think they're a much more complete team. And then now let's talk about Nick Siriani. I'm not going to kill, I'm not going to kill the guy, okay? Because I don't want to be the guy in Philly Media because, you know, I get aggregated a lot more in Philly media than I would. Otherwise, that's like, you know, just negative railing on the coach every week. But he has to be better.

I mean, how many times can we say this? I would have took the points to kick to get to the seven. Does he not like the kicker? No, Jake Elliott's great. Jake Elliott's great. And he can kick. You're amazing. But I would have gone up 17 because guess what?

Nobody's going to remember that I didn't go for two. There has to be a little bit of self-preservationist in him. You know, and at least, in this way. He truly is trying to do what he thinks is the right thing for the team. He gets caught up in the emotions. I think he's too emotional. That to me is like the key. We all have emotions

here and I'm not saying coaches can't have emotions, but I go through emotional swings in a week, in a day. Like, fuck dude, I'm, you know, I'm moody motherfucker. I get excited about things. I get like, Nick Siriani can't be moody. He can't ride the wave.

He can't be the one over there because they line up to say, hey let's let's kick the let's see if we can get them off sides they don't they don't jump then they go to the sideline and they kick the extra point you're like oh crisis averted but i saw a little yellow flag and all of a sudden i'm watching nick seriani's face and it's like uh uh like i got to do it and he's on the headset with somebody i don't know if it's somebody upstairs talking about analytics or whatever i understand 85% tush push but what i don't understand is why take the risk on the other 15 in a situation where you have control of the game.

Like, I'm all about analytics, but what analytics don't tell you is what's going on in the game. And to me, if you kick that ball and go up 17, if they come back and win, it's not going to be your ass. It's going to be the guys on the field. But all of a sudden, we're counting points that you leave out there.

We're counting points when it's six-point game and you could kick it to go to nine, and you don't. And on fourth and inches, in my opinion, get the ball in your best player's fucking hands. It's not the quarterback, no offense, it's the running back. And I know they're looking to him in the flat, but also realize that everybody else in the stadium knows that if you drop back to pass,

the first read's gonna be him. So who's the second read? So the execution and quite frankly, the riding of the emotional wave. You know, to me, he's too emotional. And that would be my big, I like the emotion. When they went up early a couple scores and he's running up and down the sidelines,

I like that. But it was also like, shit he's feeling himself and to me you got to leave that shit at the door it's not about it's not about the theme of your day making decisions this is about winning the damn game like don't get caught up in the like this would be you know what a what a call if i do this fuck that kick the extra point you're kicking these guys asses if i'm a coach i'm watching this and maybe later on in the season you know what i do what every time the eagles on an extra point line up to kick a field goal this jump off sides and dare them and dare them to go for two because the the tush push it's not automatic no it's not

push last year compared to this year is like it's like major league three to major league four the movies back to the miners tush push this year is like major league back to the miners which many of you have not seen but as an avid fan of major leagues one through three when i went to the maybe nineteen ninety eight i went to the fucking theater and i still want my money back for that movie it wasn't even my money it was my parents money i want it back the movie was so bad and i'm not saying touch push now is that bad but it looks like a lot of effort compared to last year well it does so we don't need to go off off off about this thing but all i want to say though chris is can you imagine like syriani is under fire right now and they've been four and oh despite some of

these decisions what would it look like just imagine picture a world in which they didn't win some of these close games where points were left on the board. That's exactly right. Winning heals a lot of wounds, but the fact that like this is still such a glaringly obvious issue in wins, it's pretty talented. I've never seen the team. It's just frustrating.

I've never seen a team look so good, Bo where it's like you see all those catches, you see all those big plays, all those defenders stepping up, you kick a team's ass for 50 minutes of the game or whatever it is, 45 minutes. And at the end of the game,

you're talking about the coach, like, like the fan base is calling for the coach's head on the, on the heels of a four-game win streak on a team. Part of that is Philly, which we love, but part of it is, it's frustrating. Like, let's stop thinking so hard about all this. Yeah. No need to overthink it. Your team's pretty good now. You know, like you don't need to steal points.

You don't need to steal, you know, anything. You can pay for it all. You know, it's fine. Just do it the standard way. And there's going to be times to be aggressive, for sure. But, you know, like, again, you don't got to force it. Like, you don't, like, if it's there, then take it. Don't force the touch push when it's clearly not working.

Maybe give the ball your all-world running back who's backwards hurtling people. Yeah. Or we can go up, like, to Chris's point, you can go up two possessions with a field goal. Like, and you're already in control the game. It just makes a lot more sense to go that way. No question. No question. So I'm not going to freak out.

The other thing I want to say is about because the main thing is the players are playing well. and the calls are good. Like, Vicks fine in his way. Like, they're more aggressive. Cooper's helped on defense. But, you know, it's not it. You know, the pass rush is getting there, which goes hand in hand. And then on top of that, on offense, you're calling a hell of a game.

I don't know, Jags, but, you know. Yeah. And you scored in the first quarter. What a fucking tree. And the young players. Who? The Bengals are starting to. The Bengals are starting to stay.

You're welcome to get the Bengals and put them over somewhere. but like yeah it smells like sashimi in here the one thing i thought was no you know noteworthy is christian kirk was supposedly on the he was on the blocks but they were working a deal out to send him in pittsburgh and then he got hurt so just you know notable for the other team playing in this game is like number one they don't get to cash in on some of that capital number two the steelers don't get their receiver that they've been desperately after for the better part of the year And last point about the Eagles is you talked about the offense, the calls are good, the deans that's coming together and they're young.

I mean, you mentioned about Cooper DeGine, but Nikobe Deems playing well. Isaiah Rogers had a good game yesterday. Quignon Mitchell is looking just about all world. For Harry Roseman to find DeGine and Mitchell, he every once in a while he'll do this thing where it's like, yeah, he'll fuck some things up, shoot or shoot. but as long as you keep hitting your your shots every once in a while I mean these he hits a lot more than he misses he hits a lot more than he misses and and I think this draft is evidence of that with those two guys like I don't care

what happens the rest of the draft I know mid-round picks are valuable late-round picks are valuable but if you hit on two dbs off the season last year that they had like that's surgical you know so there are already guys that can help so he's walking around the facility saying I'm surgical I'm surgical with this year with his bitch Jake Jake Jake Jake we did have a guy named Jake that used to work for the Eagles too then he he used to say that but now he can't anymore he's wet I didn't know he liked to get wet what PCP Jake this PCP angel dust galaxy gas Nate and I were talking about that movie the other day we were like imagine if that was

like a real thing and you go to work one day and you're like oh I can't wait to learn from you you're amazing a hit and then he makes you smoke PCB. And it just revealed on your first day. Oh, but, but, but he also took me to meet Snoop Dog in a wheelchair. Right. Like, what a day. So honestly, it's a giving a take working in the, in LAPD or whatever it was. The last thing I'll say is this.

And I know we're talking about Nick Siriani as a as like if I were agnostic and I was just a, like an NFL fan, I'd be really entertained by Nick Seriani. He is an entertaining person. And I don't mean this to be like, but it looks like sometimes when I watch him, emote on the sideline and just kind of like, he looks like they walked into the link in the stands. And they were like, you, how many Miller lights have you had? Delco guy, get down here and coach the team. And he's coaching his heart out.

You know, he's trying to do all the right stuff. He's a big emotions guy. We got to get the emotions. under control. He won a sweepstake. He sent in. Yeah. Sent in a bunch of,

he sent in a video. Serial box tops. I don't want. And got picked. Yeah. And he's just killing it, keeping the job. I don't want,

I don't want, I don't want Eagles fans to take this the wrong way because I think the world of you. And I think if I hung out with Nick Seriani, which I have, he's a fucking cool-ass guy. I mean, the players like Nick Seriani.

There's the reason he's an NFL coach. He is perfect for the fan base in a way that, like, like, most pick any other NFL coach who fits the fan base the most like could be one of them more than Nick Siriani

and I think that creates some tension too. It's like I know you man. Yeah. You're like all my boys from high school. Like you shouldn't be doing you shouldn't be out here coaching this team like I know five like all this stuff you don't like about yourself. Yeah. Like but

I like Nick. I hope I hope he can get this shit under control because after a law To Bo's point, if you do some, if they had lost this game, if Nacobie Dean doesn't make that play, we're having a totally different conversation and maybe we should be having that conversation. But I'm not going to have it unless we have to. I'm just not going to be the one to have that conversation on this show. I'm not going to be the pitchfork guy. You know, I'm rooting for the team. We're going to the Super Bowl. We, yeah. A team that's, hey, Chris, did you, did you play in the Kelly Green's? ever Chris? I did not unfortunately.

I didn't either. It really bothers me. No Kelly Greens for you. You know I did? Playing the midnight green at all? The midnight was great. And he liked playing in the all black because it was slimming and he liked that.

He used to be like, check this shit out, bro. Look at me today. Yeah. I feel myself. I made the all whites every now and that. I really, really hated myself. I don't like the all whites. But I'll tell you what was a sweet throwback I used to get to where was the damn

Rams throwback. I would put that up there. The old, you know, the Nolan Cromwells, the, you know, the Eric Dickerson's back in the day.

Anyways, bring back color rush. I know you've been saying that. You pointed, you actually posted, and yeah, I didn't interact with the tweet because I can't support the tweet. You're going to be like,

why, you look at my tweets, but you, it was a four box of pictures. of like just the most hideous color rush. Fire one. That Jacksonville fucking mustard. It's so great.

I love it. I don't know why. You're the one who, when the Packers came out, what did I say? When the Packers came out, I said, I shouldn't have bet the Packers.

No, because they're wearing these all green. The only thing they just messed up by one step can be made it better. If they made those helmets, like a big piece of cheese, put some holes on it, it would have been so fire.

They missed. I like your cheese idea, but I don't think they could, you know who could do like if a college team was the Packers? Like the Oregon had like a bunch of swaggy looks, then you could do like a cheese top. Yeah. But you can't do a cheese top with that classic uniform. And if they if they did the cheese top, then the lions have to do what the band did in the stands and wear greater helmet. Oh, that was sick. That was great.

That's clever. I like that. That was sick. He had real graders on his helmet. He had a big grater. He had a big cheese head. But it was a grater. cheese grater.

Like a silver cheese. Was it a real grater? No, no, no. It was like a foam. You know what I was saying? That's kind of dangerous. Yeah. I don't think you would have been allowed in the stadium.

You think there's any Green Bay fan that has a real piece of cheese? Look at this guy, dude. Yeah, yeah. He's so proud of himself. You think there's any green bay fan? Show this guy. With a real piece of cheese on their head that made one of those? Maybe.

Just a big block of nasty cheese. A monster. Look at that guy. That guy has enjoyed some cheese. Swiss. The irony is. I feel like that guy likes cheese and he's he's got a rail against cheese. He's drinking a blue moon.

We all like cheese. Shout out the blue moon. Look at this guy. Oh, man, he's doing a blue moon from a can. And he's right behind a, he's right behind a packer wearing a cheesehead. Like that guy doesn't know. He needs to go down there. That's like where the shark is behind the fish or whatever.

Doesn't even know. Whatever. That whole situation. All right. So next, next. Cowboys. Cowboys and Falcons. Cowboys are...

They're cooked. I was about to say, should have made room for them on that grill. Yeah. We need to put a saddle on the grill. Joe Burrow just... Oh, they're mega-cooked. They're new.

They're like when you get drunk on top of the cowboys. They're like when you get drunk and put a pizza in the oven and then just pass out of all. And forget. And nearly burn the... The black burnt pizza. You've taken a bite. You've taken a bite of one of those before just to try it. I know you have both.

Hey. You just... You just... ate yeah you ate like raw like gas station sushi that's just that grill by the way

have you washed that grill no yeah not a shit that thing's had hot dogs oh my god oh my god Nate ain't a piece of sushi oh

I'm getting any coli I'm gonna be pissing out of my ass oh just remember this yeah remember it tonight yeah yeah it's insane

Yeah, for real. Just remember tonight when you're praying of the porceling gods. That's the Bengals, bro. That's for talking bad about the Bengals. What if the Bengals attack you in your system tonight? There's just a bunch of bangles with a Joe Burrow head going, Ah, right, right. We're not on the Bengals yet.

Okay. We're going to talk about the Bengals in a little. Let's talk about the Falcons, okay, right off the bat. I thought it was a thing of beauty at the end of the game. They're up a score. They got to go get more points to put this team away, and they do. Kirk, the mobility on that play, when he hit Bijon Robinson, Bejohn Robinson starts out to the flat, comes back.

Kendricks looks like he's running in cement after him. Bejohn, sidestepping a couple of linemen. He was like Mike Vic in there for a second, okay? You know, the Achilles is getting better. I thought this was a really gutsy performance from them. It wasn't pretty the whole time. I mean, they lost Drake London early. They were able to run the ball.

like we knew they'd be able to run the ball i think bejohn robinson is great obviously but the thing i loved about the end of that drive was five straight runs to ice and i thought the touchdown to put them up two scores was emblematic of the whole thing and i mean that for the cowboys like it just looked like you know it looked like they were getting strangle for four yards it just it just looked like the cowboys had submitted and i'm not saying guys were given up but it was one of those plays where the piles being pushed and i think um who's the i'm forgetting the guy's damn name just because we talk about so many guards and they all look the same to me. Chris Lindstrom.

Linsstrom, who's great. He's great. But he jumped on the pile, the last play. And, you know, Dallas guys are standing around that pile. That's one of the worst things when the pile's moving towards the goal line and as a defender, you'd have to get into the end zone to jump on the pile because you can't push it into the end zone. So you just got to stand around and watch it. And that's kind of like what happened at the end of that game. And it's just like the ball slowly win the end zone. It was like, hey, Dallas, that's a metaphor for you. season it's just the inevitability of the suck for the cowboys like honestly we came into the season and said they're probably going to suck and surprise surprise they suck star on your helmet can't save you

from sucking i just and that's just like that's a wild thing to me like how how built in it is into our psyche because of how much they're on tv that they're going to be competitive every year they're just not if you look at that football team you take the star off their helmet who are they like i don't there's probably a comp for a team out there and it's not a good team. But like when you- Day Tennessee. No, I'm just talking about a pro team.

Like whoever, who do you think is the closest team to the Cowboys in the NFL? Right now? Like in general. The Panthers. Jags. I think the Jags might be better. Yeah,

I agree with you. Yeah. Young quarterback, overpaid. Oh, that is a good one. High receivers, they don't ever play really that good. That's not young anymore.

that never you give that. The defense is just undisciplined too and they mistackle totally and they're still like little like little things they're not terrible but it's just like they're playing terrible and it's just top to bottom like

it just bro the minute DAC said jump off now I was like brother there's going to be another meme and then you can call saying we fucking suck there was going to be a bookend that's one bookend to the season the other is we fucking suck and it's already here and for you to say that out loud like I like

But don't do that after you got hurt either. Like that's some, oh. Well, that's what the NBA mouth is for, like doing the NBA mouth. Like, you got to turn to Cooper Rush and be like, we fucking suck. Like, like that. But you can't be like on the sideline with a million camera. Now, I'm not criticizing because he's telling the truth. I'm not going to criticize the guy when he, because when he said jump off now, I was like,

please, bro. Please. But also like, like, dude. Like, everybody's off. Okay. There's no one that loves kidding on the Cowboys more than me. But like, we're obviously missing. of that quote, but it's just so fucking great that your franchise quarterback is sitting there watching

you play after being injured and gets caught with the lip sync police saying like, we fucking suck. That was an easy one too. No, I know. Everyone knew exactly what he was saying. Jump balls. I love shooting on the Cowboys, but I've been high on the Falcons ever since Monday night football against the Eagles at the link. Falcons are a good team, man. Well, here's what's impressive about the Falcons. The target shares. Okay. Like, yeah. Last year, You couldn't, they didn't spread the ball around. They didn't have the quarterback to do it. Like, we said all last year,

imagine if they got a real quarterback in here, and I can remember the first half of the year, arguing with fucking Falcons fans, you're hating on Desmond Ritter. No, you just need somebody in here that can distribute the football, and that's what's happening. Drake London, 75, targets, Mooney 70, Bijon 45, McLeod, 45, Pitts 44.

What? You want to know who that is great for, this target share and the, way that the Falcons are winning these games, you want to know who that is going to help turn into a great player? Panics, dude. No question. I'm telling you, the way that the Falcons are winning these games and how Kirk is playing,

distributing the ball, they're running the ball, they're playing pretty solid team football. Like, you might, this might help him develop. I'm just saying, like, I was kind of shitting on the Falcons and their decision to draft them, just because it's like, what's the point? But, like, they're winning, they're winning the right way, and maybe they can actually develop this talented young player, you can follow this mold a little bit and they can have, you know, kind of a franchise player going forward. I understood the draft pick because, I mean, even now, you might say, hey, one more rusher and we're not worried about this team

the way, because I worry about the past rush. You know, and they lost Grady Jarrett yesterday. They had multi-sack game. They had a multi-sack game for the first time since like week one. a PFF credit him with three sacks I also read this as their first game with two sacks So I don't know you tell me but It's been a long time since they had two sacks in the game And you know you lose half that production doing Achilles And Grady Jarrett first off feel terrible for the guy

Because I really am a big fan of his and like that's as an older player is a tough one But on top of that They just don't have the horses on the defensive line And like the only thing And I'm pro penics But the only devil's advocate thing is you know like say you had that one um or you know you could have drafted a pass rusher now i don't know who that pass rusher would be because it's not like everybody knew that jarevers

was going to be the best one out of them at least as it stands now you could have picked the wrong one so i i don't know like i look at this team and i say they're probably not a a first round pick away so i like thinking to the future with the pennix thing and to your point like he's learning behind a good quarterback in a good offense. And, you know, I think you, I watch Kirk Cousin sit down with Kyle Pitts on a podcast a couple weeks ago. And he was talking about like not giving critics any power. People like us, you know, like we're paying the bills.

We're criticizing players, but like, I don't expect the players to care what we have to say. In fact, you shouldn't. And I think for somebody like Kyle Pitts, who's gone through a lot in his young career as far as expectations and usage and maybe not be catching the ball from the right guy. guys and then to have a game like you had the last couple weeks against the bucks like i don't think it's a coincidence that kirk cousins being in the building helps him be more confident not only get him the ball get these guys the ball like look what he's doing for mooney people were writing off mooney like i i people i respect were really dismissive of the mooney thing

and i didn't see it that way this guy has been a revelation for them and i can guarantee you a lot of the confidence that comes from playing this offense. It's not just playing in a good offense with a good quarterback, but it's also having a guy who's like older and can talk to you, like can sit down with you. The conversation he had with Kyle Pitts was awesome. Like I'm watching him talk to Kyle Pitts. And I'm like, this is what every player in the NFL needs. They need a vet. You know, in a league where guys are increasingly younger because of the way we pay and don't pay guys and, you know, it's hard to keep vets around and that sort of thing. Like having a Kirk Cousins in the building helps everybody. He has truly become like one of the ultimate locker room guys late in his

career. I love it. And I love that for him. And I love that for Kyle Pitts and I love that for this team. So, you know, the pass rush, that's a, that's a question. You know, to me, you already had your chance. You went out and tried to get Jude on and you did. And it hasn't worked out to be the game-changing move that you thought it would. So I don't know if you can go out and do another one. Like I- I- Last, last-dish effort this week. I don't, I don't know, bro. Like I, I, I, Falcons fans will probably tell me. But I do think if they can find a way to manufacture more pressure, they are a dangerous team.

But until they do, I kind of worry about them in the playoffs. And I think that's fair to say. I don't think we're hating. Like there are six-win teams, a good team. They're getting the playoffs. You've got to be able to rush the passer. And they lost Grady, Jerry. So that's a big deal.

As for the Dallas Cowboys, 10 men on the field on a third and four in the red zone early. Dan Orlowski pointed that out this morning, like totally undiscipline. Then you have 12 men on the field on a fourth and one. By the way, with lamb in the backfield, in a game where Dowdell is going for six to a pop, so you got a punt.

You got four turnovers on downs. One resulted in a smash tablet after the lamb end around. You got the worst fake punt I have ever seen. Oh, my God. Like, that was terrible. Dak hurt his hamstring. Admits they suck.

He's out for a couple weeks. His average depth of target in this game was 4.3 compared to 8.9 across 2,023. They are not the same team. They sent Zeke home. Zeke was not going to be a big part of this team. And I hope he's good, man, because that's kind of like, I wonder if there's something more going on there.

Because like Zeke's been a pretty upstanding citizen as a football player for most of his career. You know, like, and so I don't know what's happening there. But overall, this is not a good football team. And worse yet, it feels like a dumpster fire. Like, it kind of feels like a divided deal. where we've seen shit on the sideline, we've seen Micah and Diggs, like,

oh, man, how about that? Not put, not put. How about that? Right? Not put, not put back in the top ten. Don't put Dack in the top ten. Put Kirk in the top ten. Did he put Kirk in the top ten?

At the end, they were like, oh, I think. I don't know if he did. And then to get a ball thrown on your head to start the game, get dunked on by the quarterback you left off that list, that is just pure. It's poetry. It's poetry. And even more perfect for Michael Parsons.

And he got the clip on his podcast. So I can't wait to see what they say this one. So the question is, do you just, I mean, I know you're the Cowboys, but you got to get over yourselves and you got to sell. Yeah. Like you got to get over your fucking selves and you got to sell. And to me, it starts with the conversation around Michael Parsons. The rumblings are kind of like, hey, you know, it's not as good as it seems there.

Like I've been told that a lot of times when I, praise Michael Parsons, hey, well, you know, it's not working out there in the locker room, like, whatever. And that's a lot of fan theory, and I think reading between the lines. But either way, he's somebody you can get something for, absolutely. He's a game-changing player, for sure. Maybe he's not part of the, maybe it's somebody else you try to get some capital for. Maybe Zach Martin would be a guy. Zach Martin's talking about retiring, right? Who needs a guard in the NFL right now? There's a couple of teams. that could really use one, one in the state of Texas.

Houston. So, like, I look at this group and I say, Chicago. Chicago for sure. For sure. But if I'm Zach Martin, I want to go somewhere I can win right now, and I think Houston might be that team, you know, and they're on the other side of the conference. You know, so I think there are some chances to sell a couple of your pieces,

and you have to. And I know, Jerry, that's kind of an admission that feels like kind of icky to somebody with a big ego. but fuck dude you're just going to keep watching the same bullshit i mean i just go ahead bow go ahead night i was just going to say i'm having flashbacks to having us on a drunk night in buffalo sitting on the porch talking this is funny and we're going through the bet mGM future bets and i'm just looking at the most absurd odds and i'm looking in the section where it's like a hundred that plus a hundred thousand to one odds and one of them I said out loud to you and I laughed and I was like

wouldn't it be funny just a bet on the Cowboys downfall they have a bet right here for them to lose all of their home you did say that that's incredible and we all talked you down and they and they were all like dude I don't know if they're going to be good but they're going to win it at home bro and they have a few they have they have enough home games left but the fact that they're oh and three at home and they just might have lost DAC for a few more weeks the team is not looking like they're coming together anytime soon. Like that bet we've been looking real good. I think they get the Eagles, the Texans.

They got the Giants and the Giants and the Bucs. So the Giants game is going to be enormous. Jerry, I said this on the- Candleaders sit there. They still might not be able to beat Marriota. I said this on the gambling show last week. I fucked it up because I thought it was the whole season, but they have only led at home for like two minutes and 15 seconds two minutes and 15 seconds they were

they was the opening yeah opening drive of the lions game they there's a fan theory on detroit's uh reddit about the the curse of dan campbell you they hey you got jobbed in in jerry's world and since then they haven't won at home okay and i'm taking a step further they have led for two minutes at home since that dan campbell debacle in big d and before that game they were i think they were undefeated at home last year. So something, I mean, obviously the team got worse. But like, that is a house of horrors. And the very thing I'm talking about when like you're a bad team and things aren't going well. Like when Minnesota comes off a two game losing street comes home, they find themselves down to Joe Flacko and the Colts as five and a half point favorites.

That, that if it's not Minnesota, those fans are getting a little onry in that situation. And I think that that playing in Dallas right now is probably the last place these guys want to be. I feel like a road trip is right where they want to be. because playing in that fucking building in front of those fans who are acutely aware of every fucking thing that you've done wrong all season long makes it harder to be a cowboy at home. And for Jerry, there's no world in which they do a culture change, though, of any sorts at Jerry World. Like, they're so pot committed to everything's bigger in Texas. Jerry World.

We have the tours. We have the, all the stuff. They're catching a lot of criticism. They need a football change. They need a football change. Yeah, I agree. Here's what they miss. They miss Dan.

They're not going to do it, though. They miss Dan Quinn, okay? You're seeing how important Dan Quinn was to that group. You've heard guys talk about that. They're missing Dan Quinn. They're missing certain pieces on the field. But additionally, I think that things run its course on Mike McCarthy. Yeah.

I do. And to me, and I told you, I'm not going to do this with the Eagles because they just won a game, okay? The Cowboys are losing games. They're out of it, in my opinion. And Mike McCarthy, what could Mike McCarthy do at the end of the season where you're not going to let him go. You at the very least he needs to be the first one to go in the off season so that you get a head start on the next coach. And even better would be at some point soon, make a change, a spark, find anything you can because what you're doing right now is

the definition of insanity. Yeah. It's interesting. You bring that up and I totally agree. Coming back to your original question of who is a good con for the Cowboys right now, it's the Saints. I think they're the same team. We saw the decision the Saints made this morning. Yeah. I think they're in really similar spots. And honestly, I don't know, Jerry after the game said something like he's got fire in his belly like Mike McCarthy or something. Yeah, well, that's, that might be acid reflux. Because my boy is, he's stressing, bro. It might be some bad sushi. It could be some bad sushi. You need to watch out. You get Mike McCarthy.

No, just about 10 minutes ago, I was tired. I was kind of sweating under this shirt, but I'm good, though. Can I say this? One thing nice about the Cowboys, I'm going to do my one thing nice about the Cowboys. That guy overshone's a good player. Oh, nice. He's a really good player. I like him. I can't wait to watch him for years to come. The question is that defense is going to be good around him.

And my last question for the Cowboys is to Mike Zimmer. If everybody gets fired, do you have anything to do with that? Because the last stop you were at, you said that was the players that got you fired. What's it going to be this time? Ownership. Because this defense didn't play in like the Dallas defense I watched last year. What if Jerry Jones's kids are like, football savant and when the team gets passed down to them the cowboys are like back to you know everything

and they're just like geniuses sitting there but jerry joan just doesn't like you won't listen to anybody go nepotism yeah you know i uh no i mean like maybe he could just have this thing as gridlocked as people think he does but i also know that he's not as involved as in in the past too so part of it is just a football problem where they just i mean they just can't get it right and and to me it is a big ass distraction down there. Distractions are real in the NFL. Some people are wrong about what's distracting and what's not.

Like fans don't have a really good barometer for that. I don't blame you. I'll tell you what's distracting. Having people in your building every day, like you talked about, like coming home, you're Brian Anger, you got a fucking,

or not Brian Anger, what the fuck is the kicker's name? Oh, Brandon Aubrey. Brandon Aubrey. Yep. Brandon Aubrey, you got jury duty. You drive two hours to practice field.

You can't get on the field because there's high schoolers there. You're walking through a fucking fish tank. out of the field there's spinning trucks on a on platforms there's cheerleaders dancing everywhere the stadium's huge there's a light flying in at you from the fucking plinning it's like it's like the death ray it's like solar death ray i love the death er you i saw that thing on instagram i sent it to you i built the solar death ray out of an inside of a tv we could do that we should do that we just need a big old tv we got to find a big

the guy was like the rock lit on fire he lit a rock on fire what did i told you i said that i was like Chris, you would like this. You were like, when I told you about it, you were like, it sounds like some meth head stuff. It does sound like it still sound like some methhead stuff. But it's interesting, right? Yeah, yeah. Let's head NFC West going all the way.

Or sorry, no, yeah, NFC West. We got Bears and Cardinals. The Bears, they're on the road, and you know the Bears record on the road. Not to start, like, not to start shit, but like we were getting a little out over our skis, weren't we Chicago I was mentioned like a month ago

and there was like a two page list of media personalities that should be sorry for you know like yada yada yada and I was on that list and I was like you know what

I'm not going to get into a thing with this fan base but like if you're going to ride the wave after a big win like Jacksonville and London let's talk about it now like are we are we going to

And I'm not one that I'm the same I'm the same guy after that win. Hey, that's good, but it was the Jags. Hey, this is bad. That doesn't mean you haven't found your quarterback. Okay, because I honestly think I still watch him operate and I think like, hey, you got a starter there. You know what I mean? And, you know, the difference between a starter and a franchise quarterback is how you build around him, in my opinion. And I think honestly, watching him make some of throws he made yesterday, even with a lot of the bad ones,

There's somebody in there that can lead a franchise, but he's not ready to do it. This team's not ready. This team's not ready. When DJ Moore walks off the field in the middle of a play, if you don't think that's a sign that something's wrong in that locker room, and you could look at me and be like, hey, you're trying to divide a locker room or you're trying to cast aspersions or whatever the fuck. Or, hey, you're just, you're starting shit.

I'm not starting shit. I didn't walk off the field in the middle of a play. That was DJ Moore. And that was his second one in 12 hours because he went on the radio show and was asked and said, I want to say no. Tyreek Stevenson pulls himself out of practice this week after that. That was what was reported, right? I don't want to make sure I'm not slandering these guys.

After he found out he wasn't starting. I just want to make sure it's not me and I'm not making shit up. The vibe is not good in that locker room. and that is a bigger problem than the development of the quarterback and how you looked yesterday. Like you're going to lose games. You got a rookie quarterback.

Some of us knew this was going to be a process. Okay? Maybe you didn't. Some of us did. The stuff with the locker room, though, is a problem. Okay? Like the DJ Moore walking off the field, the Stevenson stuff during the week

is a fucking problem. You know it, I know it. And Matt Eberflus, what's the stat about on the road? because I had heard it's they're winless on Sundays under Matt Eberflus 3 and 18 after yesterday

On the road on the road on the road Yeah winless on Sundays on the road Three and 18 Their only wins were two Thursdays And a Monday I believe And they were against the quarterbacks They played Were

You mean to tell And these are all road games Yes yeah all road games So my question is a very fair Fucking question mind you because it was sample size that big on the road. It cannot be the, it can't be the players

because there's too many damn players who've been in and out of that building, okay? It can't be, it's way different than the home games for some reason. This is not, it's not, it's not out of question to ask, what the fuck are they doing on Saturday night on this coaching staff?

I'm not, I'm not insinuating they're out till three in the morning. But what I'm saying is like maybe they're not running their damn meetings right. Maybe they're not flying out at the right time. Maybe they're not. I don't know what it is, but that is way too much of a trend to just be like, yeah, it's just random. I mean, like they just haven't played well on the road. Like what is that, bro?

That's bad. And 14 wins with Maddie Bufluis as the head coach. These are the quarterbacks they played in those 14 games. Trey Lance and the monsoon where Justin Fields had the sliding gif, Davis Mills, Mac Jones and Bailey Zappie, same game, Sam Howell, Brian Hoyer, Bryce Young, Josh Dobbs, Jared Goff, and the Cold, Kyler Murray, Desmond Ritter, Will Levis,

Rams without Puka and Cooper, Andy Dalton, Trevor Lawrence. I mean, sure, look at a couple of those are high win probability games. Like the Detroit one, you know, we talked about last year, right? There's a few of these that, like, I looked at like, there were four games that I think there were over 90% win probability, including the Washington game, that they lost at the end of the game. And we're over here mugging up the fucking fans.

You know, like, I don't know what's going on with that locker room, but those things are things you've got to get nipped in the butt. And if DJ Moore doesn't want to be there, I'd fucking trade him. Because that quarterback's not going anywhere. If he doesn't like the quarterback, we're making a good point about the coaching, especially. Can I finish? Can I do this one?

Can I do this one? Because I just thought of it. if DJ Moore doesn't want to be there and he doesn't like the quarterback who's going first and I was pro fields I was the one that was like keep fields but if this is what we're doing

and I felt like maybe DJ more was pro fields like reading between the lines last year right then here's the fucking door dude like they're having trouble getting them the ball anyways it feels like Roma Dunesay and him are on the best page out of three wide receivers

and by the way this is from Rich Habar I might be messing up the pronunciation of his name and I'm so sorry if I am but I do follow him on Twitter he's got a good Twitter highest inaccurate

target rates for players with 25 plus targets Adunzee's number six Keenan Allen's number eight DJ Moore's number 10 you're not even getting missed the most out of the three y'all how are you the one walking off the field

okay and and I think that also says something about like Caleb Williams which is the guy's not Superman yet yet but when he's locked in in the middle of field underneath that sort of stuff he fucking wait all three of his receivers are on that list on that list that's bad so it's not good so all i'm saying is i think you got a guy in caleb williams i like him i do but this was going to be a process and some of the some of the some of the people that just put the cart before the horse with this stuff and bro you just said when i had them at nine wins uh in the

off season, you thought I punched a baby on the live stream the way some of y'all reacted. So just for me, the one thing that's inexcusable is like if one of your veterans who you brought here a couple years ago or last year or whatever two years ago, DJ Moore doesn't want to be there, then you as a head coach now, I have to make a decision. You as a GM, Ryan Poles, Ian Yates, Cunningham, my guy, Ennees Cunningham. Hi, Y, C. Do you want to be here, bro? Do you? seriously it's time for a real conversation maybe he's frustrated i get it but i've never can't even imagine walking off the field there was a real cold passing by when caleb got injured at the end of the game another blatant wild decision for mattie berfluse to have him in at the end for that blowout

but he got injured and he walked by dj more and they just bumped shoulders hey no problem you seriously i'm not saying he's a bad guy for not one to be there like guys don't want to want to be places. But, but, you know, the whole, if you don't like it here, leave, you get something from him. I'm just throwing it out there. Where would you DJ Moore? What's the best? Matt, Houston needs a-

Turn him into a fucking, turn him into a stud offensive tackle next year. Seriously, turn that guy into a 330-pound fucking Joe Alt. Okay? If he don't want to be there. I don't know where he's going. I don't know who it is. But the- He's going to play with Joe Alt.

The coach in me just came out a little bit, bro. Yeah. That's what I mean. And this is me defending Caleb a little bit who hasn't played as good as some people think, but he's still your fucking guy, dude. And this guy got fucking, he got blasted in Houston and kept getting up. You know, he's taking shit. People talk about his purse, his nails, whatever. He's taking a lot of shit.

The last guy he needs to take shit from is his fucking veteran wide receiver. You know, I don't like that. I just don't like it. And he was nice enough to come on the show and do an interview, so I'm not saying he's a bad guy. I'm not, but just as a football player, I don't like that shit, okay?

So, there's a cook. I don't, they're not cooked. But listen, if they don't, listen, they have one game next week to get it back on track against the Patriots and then look at their games after the Patriots.

Look at their, look at their games. It's a gone. No, they have the hardest schedule remaining. Bro, it's a gaunt. Where this other team, and I'm,

I'm on you, I'm on it, Cardinals fans, all 10 of y' all 10 of y'all in here. I understand like it's that, hey, we're a long way from Arizona, and I didn't play in Arizona, and maybe there's not a lot of Arizona fans that listen to this spot, but I see you all, man. We've been talking about, I have been on your side all year. I think you've got a good football team and what you've done in a two-week span, three-week span, really,

fucking beating a very good Chargers team in a physical game, okay? And then under a week later, going to Miami with no-run game, finding a way to beat that team, and then doing this against that defense. hadn't given up 21 points, more than 21 points all year long. You had that at the half. You ran the ball for 200 yards. Fucking Iber flus runs out. I don't know what coverage he's in,

but they basically go slot blitz at the 50 yard line. You get three on three outside. You get McBride on a backer. You get what, there you go, Cardinals, getting some help on defense. But they run for 50 yards at the end of the first half. That's inexcusable, but it also speaks to the Cardinals and how good of a job they're doing.

And this no-name defense, and I don't mean to disrespect them, but there's just not a lot of guys on this defense at the beginning of season. You're like, yep, star, okay? Six sacks. Six sacks, 16 pressures, 13 different guys registered pressures, 46% dropbacks. Upticking man coverage, up to 30% yesterday. They were 20% on season. So they came in here and they said, we can man these guys up, and they did.

Nick Rallis, John Gannon, take a bow, man. Seriously. they have done a great job congratulations Nick Rallis he is a father I don't know if he had any kids before but Dominic Kizier Rallis Kizier is the middle name

that tells you he loves Kizier White now just is an opportunity to shout out Kizier White and what a big deal he probably is not only on this defense but in the locker room to get a kid fucking named after your linebacker like they got something

I'm not saying they're a special team but they got a special thing going Like they really do have a special little thing going in their building. It might not be for this year. It might be for next year. But right now they're sitting up top of the NFC West. You know, sometimes that's the best feeling. Like when you're in the room like with a defense or someone where you guys kind of like know that you're kind of like looked over or you don't have any like big time, big time star names.

But you guys are going in there getting the job done. Like getting six seconds. Like that feels good going into the defensive meeting this week and watching tape and being like, guys like everyone else outside of this room might not know what's going on but we have something and then to know you have a quarterback that can who's a gamer and it'll keep you guys in game and and the way they have their running game going that that's a that's a that's a nice feeling going into the back half of the season for that team no question but what'd you have i'm sorry bro um oh i just think like you're talking about uh the coaching staff and how they're you know

their record on the road is, you know, a pretty dark spot on their coaching staff. Obviously, I agree. But what you're talking about with Moore, too, is like, I feel like there's just a total lack of that leadership in that locker room. I mean, if you think about, just think about it a little bit, like the shit that they've been through losing to the commies on that last second hell Mary, that's a tough game to kind of bounce back from and play well. And then they make the same dumbass, like mistake on defense right before the half,

which you definitely alluded to too. but it's like there's definitely something there's some sort of disconnect between the staff and the players in that locker room but it's like you would hope at least like i always think of things from a player's perspective who is stepping up in that locker room to be a leader is it your rookie you know first overall pick is it i don't know a random offensive lineman who's bounced around the league they don't have any good ones that's the problem it's hard to be right it's hard to be a leader if you're not doing your job well leadership from the coaching staff or from the lockering. And that's why I think it shows up on Sunday. You're totally right. And I can see Caleb trying to be a leader. I can see him trying to do the thing.

To be fair to him, I don't think he's the problem there necessarily at all. Like the offensive line's bad. Like they didn't block a guy on a safety, right? Like they just let him run by. But I will say this. What Caleb can't do is when they're at midfield down two scores as crazy as 24-9 looks or whatever it is at the end of that game, you got a chance to hit. I think it was

it might have been DJ more but at the 25 yard line vacated zone just sitting there and you go sidearm you're trying to be Patrick Mahomes for no reason and I don't know if it's in the

if we're getting to the zone of like I got to be a hero here and sometimes when you get into hero mode you do things that are unsound but like there's no need to drop your arm angle there and Lottie da you miss the throw

and the next play you've got you got somebody in the flat and you're throwing into a sea of red jerseys in the honeyhole because the corner bails and all of a sudden it's third down you take two sacks you know you had a chance to get to one score so it's not fair what what cala's being asked to do but unfortunately like in these situations you got to avoid those stretches he took too many sacks so to be fair to the kid it's not all his fault and i'm certainly not here throwing throwing, you know, cold water on this thing.

But I think when we said coming in the season, like, Jane Daniels is not only the most pro-ready, but he's also on the best setup. Like, like, it's played out that way. So, you know, Chicago, the parade's not this year, but maybe down the line. Like, you know, I don't think, I think this kid, some of the underneath throws he makes,

I'm like, wow, you know, if you can just stay there and work on whatever it is, you know, in the deep, intermediate part of the field that you just can't get on the same page with these guys outside the numbers deep um you know one of them is the it's it's the fucking you know and if iber flus doesn't if they don't make a move a DJ more has to be on his best behavior but if he doesn't make a move if they don't talk about making a move if that's not on the table after a play like that then nobody respects you bro like because ultimately when you're walking around a locker room saying that's unacceptable

that's unacceptable we can't be we got to be on time here we got to be on you're not a good you don't have any you're not good enough to be making different rules for different people and nobody on your team's good enough to have different rules these are more included like there's nobody that's that good on your team that's the kind of shit you do for like Justin Jefferson if he were an asshole which he's not so I mean you you have to you have to you cannot accept that stuff I don't know what's going on today there but the last two weeks with this team it's just bad news bears on the in the locker room. To wrap this recap up to Nate's point. So they have the Patriots next week. Baron Browning. We should, can we say that? Yeah, yeah. Because you pointed it out, but I never said

Baron Browning. One of our favorite guys who doesn't get a lot of public. He was in a, in Denver, he was in a very young pass rush group that they couldn't get enough snaps to everybody. Over the weekend, they signed Jonathan Cooper to a big extension. Benito. Bonito, Jonah Ellis, out of this year's draft class has been playing well. Got a lot of rushes. Tillman. Surplus. So it's. It's. sucks. But it's good for Arizona. You need a rusher. And if there was a team, I love to see Broncos go to. I mean, we owed

them, we owed Arizona a player to be named later in the Zach Allen free agent signing. So this is fair. Reed's the nicest fan. I think he's a really nice fan. You cheer for former Broncos. Like they're a lot. He really is.

Like they're a lot. Good heart. You know what I mean? There's like Philly fans. It's like if you didn't pan out, it's like, you might as well be. I'm really excited about the next breakdown. Another NFC West. It brings out my pride as a former ram. Some people say, oh, you don't act like a former

ram. Well, the team moved. They're a totally different place. Like, you know, it doesn't feel like the same. But for me, like, when I see guys in the horns, like, getting after it up front like that. And this game was drunk. There's plenty of talk about in this You had like the best line last night when you said Matt Stafford was tired. Matthew Stafford was tired. He just wanted to go home. He just wanted to go home. And over time, it was like, hey, I'm throwing a sea of bodies. Um,

By the way, before I get to the D-line, again, we've said this over and over again, the Rams Robbins, and I mean the non-Puca, the non-Cooper guys, like, you know, Robinson, Tudu Atwell, who's not getting as many targets right now. It doesn't feel like he's part of the long-term plan.

But I look at like, I look at Robinson, especially yesterday. Some of the catch he made, the kid Tyler Johnson, which in overtime, that's an ill-advised throw. If Woolen just comes to the ball, look how Bow's frozen. Talk about methie.

Can we screenshot that? So if Woolen comes the ball, and Woolen had a tough day, he got beat on a pivot route down in the goal line by Robinson and then the game winner, like, come on. That was an incredible finish to that game, which was bat shit crazy. That game was crazy. Gino Smith really gutsy to come back and make that throw to JSN, who had probably, if not for penalties,

three hondo, okay? Huge game. To make that throw in the end zone, which was a dime to tie it up, to go to him on fourth and five, to get the two scores at the end of the first half, it's a lot like the Seahawks as a whole, really inconsistent.

You can play like shit for 40 minutes and there's two 10-minute bursts where you just look like the greatest show on turf. Gino's up and down. And for me, it's that pick in the end zone that totally changed the game, right? obviously, including the second pick in the red zone, which we get to in a second. But I want to talk about the damn Rams defensive line.

I am psyched to talk about these guys. It feels like a second, it feels like a second different, but like a lot of high picks on this group. In the early 2010s, we had a lot of high picks on our D line. They called us Sac City. A lot of ACC guys. A lot of ACC guys. we got some ACC guys on this line

Fisk and verse you got young you have you have fucking 91 Forget his damn name Turner yeah Kobe Turner Turner Fis might be an absolute dude

and number one he looks like a kid that my or a player that my kid created in Madden he really does he looks like if you were just like fuck it randomizes this cat number 55 Dark Viser t-shirt length

you know sweatshirt not sweatshirt what do you call that thing a damn undershirt McDavid wrist braces like what else am I missing you just hit randomize on the player but he was winning left and right and as I'm watching this game I'm like damn I hope he gets

a bucket because he's been people have been eating off him this whole game and he ends up with two in the second half not just that he gets away with the hold on that tight end that it's kind of a cagey move where Gino thinks he's going to be in the flat, but Fis just gets a little piece of him.

They miss the call. That leads to the second pick. Jared versus a dog. He might have my favorite sack of the day. Running through Charles Cross, what did we say about his anchor? He ran right through him. As soon as he got a taste of the anchor,

he was like, I'm coming right back. And ran through him, ran through the fucking back. I mean, it was a big boy rush. And I'll say this, Byron Young kind of gets lost in the whole thing, not only caused the pick

in the red zone that went for six, but sprung it with a, with a block. Also caused the pick six against the Green Bay. So this group, and they run a lot of simulated pressures, you know, like it's kind of just a rush

with four groups right now. And they're getting the job done. And I got a shout out, Giff Smith, their defensive line coach. I mean, like, it's a daycare.

And he's doing a great job with this group, man. It makes me proud to have played for the Rams. You want to talk about things that make me proud. I'm watching Jared Verst. I like that guy. Like, I like that guy.

I would like to play with that guy. So, you know, absolutely great game for him. Great game for less need. You know, Kinchins, you know, big, big play. You know, you're talking about young guys making play. The safeties, McCullough, Curl. Kitchens was cooking, Gino.

He was cooking. Yeah, he was cooking Gino, for real. 103-yard return. This was a great game for this team. Like, not only puts you right back in it, because the threshold to get back in in the West was so low. Like two weeks ago you were selling, now you're back in it. But this young defense led by Chris Shula doing a pretty good job.

Is it enough to get Aaron Donald think about coming off the couch? Oh. Let's wait a couple more weeks. Yeah. Not right now. But a huge third quarter from them, time of possession. I mean, like for Seattle to do what they did at home, it's still Seattle. to take that lead and then going to the half

and the Rams dominated time possession in third quarter. What was the number on that? Yeah, it was like 12 and a half minutes they had in the third quarter. They ran 22 plays. Perimeter runs. Yeah. Came out, got on the perimeter. You know, and I thought, again,

the plays that their non-star receivers made in the passing game, huge. And eventually, my man Stafford just wants to go home. He's tired from Halloween where he dressed like Travis Kelsey, which I thought was hilarious. I thought it was fucking hilarious. What's up for Puka, punching Kobe Bryant in the face? You know what Kobe Bryant did?

You tell me if this was before or after this, because I didn't see where he got ejected because I watched the All-22. I didn't watch the game live as closely. I know Puka got ejected. There was a play early in the game on the left sideline where one of the receivers caught the ball on the Ram's sideline. The guy hits the ground.

He's on the ground, like he's down on the sideline. Kobe Bryant comes up in, punches him. Just full out punches him. I know Rams fans saw this. Kobe Bryant comes over there and is like, I'm punching the ball, but just fucking punches homeboy. So I don't know if that was related.

But now that you say he punched Kobe Bryant, now I know how Puka got ejected. And I'm kind of piecing together watching the All-22. I'm like, what the fuck is he doing? And is somebody going to do something about that? Maybe that's what it was. People in the chat, did y'all see this? Bad timing for him to do that. And then on top of it being Kobe Bryant, this is just like kind of not related.

But since it's his name is Kobe Bryant, did you see that Puka Nakua seriously thinks if he had a few months of training that he can play in the NBA? Good. I'm glad somebody's saying that because like we had to listen to that whole thing this off season, which made for good content. But I just don't think people understand. It's just not the same sport. No. Just you can't just be a super athlete. No.

There were so many good college basketball players that they're now playing that at least Jimmy Graham. But I'm talking about we're in camp too. Like the Jimmy Graham's. Yeah. Donovan McNabb. But I'm talking about the guys that the guys that like made camps but then didn't make the team. And I watched him play.

And I was like, bro, like you play basketball in college? Great. He can jump 45 vertical. Cool. He's tall. Does that make your great football player? I think Pooka's dead right. He can play in the NBA.

That's just easy. if you give me six weeks I can play in the NBA I'm a good passer All right So AFC you want to take a look at the standings Yeah I do I do I do

I do I want to take a leak while you guys look at Look at the standings I'm sorry man I drink a lot of water You know All right so AFC's tale of the haves And the have knots

With the Colts and the Bengals Kind of in the middle We got the chiefs looking great in the AFC West. Bill's looking great in the AFC East, both with seven wins right now. Chiefs trying to go to eight tonight. Currently in the

AFC East, we have the Steelers with six wins, getting that division title, but of course the Ravens are sitting right there with six and three, just one more loss. And then the Texans, even though they're reeling are still leading in the South. And then the other three playoff teams currently are Ravens, Chargers, Broncos,

Colts and Bengals still looking in Jets technically with a little bit of life at 3 and 6. And Nate, I want to know what you think, but can the Steelers hold onto that AFC North spot? They're a half game ahead of the Ravens right now, six and two, the Ravens are six and three. Oh, can the Steelers?

Do you think they hold on to that spot? Who's that Steelers? Steelers holding on to the AFC North number one spot. Half game ahead of the Ravens. Here's the thing about the Steelers. And when you talk about the Ravens, like I was kind of like I was drinking the Kool-Aid a little bit on the Ravens and yeah y'all got it done yesterday or y'all not get done the Ravens got it done yesterday but I do worry about

the defense like I do worry a little bit about them and the reason it's even a conversation because it's not like when it when you compare like the Ravens offense to the Steelers's offense is two sides of the fucking ball and like if you look at the way the Steelers match up with the Ravens year after year they're going to play you know what I mean and You got to win these division games. Like the division could come down to Steelers Ravens. You know, so like who's got a chance? Who's got a higher ceiling?

The Ravens probably have a higher ceiling. But who could have the better playoff spot? Like you never know. Like I don't think it's a foregone conclusion. I think the Steelers have proved enough with Russell Wilson at the helm. Now, the Giants aren't a good team, right? Who did they beat the week before? It was.

Jets. Jets. Jets aren't a good team. It's their schedule the rest of the way that looks tough with all of their AFC North games. They have the commies. They have the Eagles. They have the Chiefs. And that's tough. And that might be who do the Ravens play? Ravens have... I think the NFL conspiracy, they're going to push for their brothers to play in the playoffs. Ravens are... They have the bangles. They go to the Steelers on November 17th. They still have the Chargers, Eagles. they got Steelers twice

and then they end Texans Browns. It feels like there's a I mean take the division games and you can lose any of them Steelers and Ravens like it's just the AFC North is a bloodbath even when defense is great on every team I mean like but it just brings something out

and all these teams but I don't know man like the thing about the Ravens is their ceiling is so high but their floor is so low. Like they, me and Bill were sitting here at inside the NFL, Bellichick,

the guy's sitting next to him production meetings. It's like fucking awesome. And, and he's like, look at all these teams that have won two games. There's a lot of teams at the bottom of one, like two, three games.

How many of those wins are against each other? Like, and it turned out that like most of the wins were against each other. The teams that, that actually, the good teams that they actually, that they actually, that group of bad teams had beaten was like the Ravens. Like it was like, and that's always the story is sometimes they play down the team.

So I don't know. Like maybe there's not enough bad teams left on their schedule, but there's a lot of AFC North games for both these teams. So. Do you have a lean? Ravens or Steelers? I like the Ravens. I mean, Lamar Jackson looked really good on Sunday.

Man, I'm freezing again. Lamar Jackson looked really good on Sunday. I think Pittsburgh is built to, win with their defense and like just the way they control the game their run game of quarter if if their quarterback who looks like it's going to be russ moving forward like i feel good about the steelers i just think the ravens are so hard to stop like derrick henry is fucking rolling he's got a thousand yards rushing already omar jackson a perfect passer rating on sunday it's tough to beat that dude he's he he's the mb okay we go around we're talking about like if he plays like this the rest

of the season just give him the damn trophy like you know i love josh i'm Allen and and you know like I might take Josh Allen you know like if I had to gun to my head I'm glad nobody's like putting a gun to people's head being like who are your top five quarterbacks like that's a world I don't want to live in okay but like he's the MVP I mean like if he plays like this guy should be in the conversation that guy like who's named automatically getting you shot top five quarterback I mean Detroit they're going to kill me who's name that if you put in there just automatically someone. Justin Herbert, bang.

White Tim Teba or black Tim Tebow. Black Tebow. New segment. No, but honestly, I mean, it's a good time to talk about what happened yesterday with the Ravens. Like, it's a perfect example of

pick your poison with this offense. We're going to come in. Vance Joseph says we're not going to, we're going to stop the run. Yes, you did in the first half. But by the time I looked up, this game was damn near out of reach. and it looked to me like the Ravens were just shredding them

when they tried to man up. Yeah, all over the field. And Zayflowers were just running. I mean, we were wake surfing behind it. We were just following the boat. And the tackling problems the Broncos had, especially on that touchdown right before the half. I mean, that should have been a field goal.

If they complete that pass, that should have been field goal at most. You have them, you know, wrapped up with four dudes around them at the 35. Shout out to Harbow, knowing how to coach. You know how to get your guys going. you bring in another body.

Zayflowers didn't drop any passes yesterday. Yeah, that's funny. You bring another able body into the room that can play. It'll make you elevate your game, even if you're a good player. They just traded for this guy. Like, so, you know. That's another weapon down the road for the long run, though. Zach Orrin the defense, you know, in big spots against good passing operations.

Like, ironically, they have one of their best games against the bills. The bills have added somebody since then. although they will get to them in a second. Like the Keon-Colman injury might be... Might be big, especially with... Cooper was out yesterday, right? Cooper was out yesterday. So Cooper...

You saw what they looked like against Baltimore when they were down Shakir. Shakir might really be the one for that offense. He was... He was catching the ball and pulling some piles with them yet. But I guess the point is, with all these AFC teams and the Ravens deserve the utmost respect. I mean, they really do. Like, do you want me to say the best team in the AFC? I don't know.

Like there's a team that's undefeated and is not even playing well. Yeah. So, so, so, you know, and the bills are going to be hell if you play them again. I know you kick their ass. You know, there's a lot of good teams in the AFC. I mean, up top here all the way through the Chargers, no offense, you know, Cowboy. I think that there's like, as I put the Chargers in the category of teams that can beat, I think the Chargers can beat almost anybody in the NFC.

Vegas agrees with you. They're good. Minus 300 to make the playoffs at 5 and 3. Meanwhile, the Broncos are five and four. They're plus 200. It's just that there's a ledge. There's a bit of a ledge. I like Denver.

I think there's a reserve respect. I think Boenix in spots looks like, you know, he had a big month. He looked yesterday good in some spots and then not so good in a spot. Yeah, yeah. You know, and that's a game script that sucks. You know, it's not the game script you want to follow if you're the Broncos. But looking at this AFC playoff race, this is going to be a fun AFC playoff.

Like, because I have no idea right now as it sits, no idea. every team has a weakness you know except i mean you talk about the chargers who's got the smallest weakness she she's chiefs probably probably they just added a receiver running back who has the best offense when they're playing their best ball baltimore does now who has out of chargers ravens texans steeler's bills chiefs who's got the worst defense right now you Houston yeah Houston or Buffalo. Are you going to say the Ravens?

They're not at the top. The best. The defenses I trust the most out of this group, probably obviously chiefs because they're game, they're game bread. They know how to do this thing. Chargers, obviously, chargers are elite. Like, charges probably be the best. Look at numbers.

The Steelers are up there. I think the bills, when they're cooking, when they get all their guys back, are going to be pretty damn good, like come play all the time. The two teams that, to me, are a little bit incomplete. on defense, Houston and Baltimore. The Chargers scoring defense. Passing defenses. In the last, like, in the last five years since 2020.

So 2020, they were 23rd scoring defense. 2021, 29th, 2022. They were 21st, 2023, 24th. This year, they're first. Yeah. So respect due to all those teams at the top of the AFC table. But I think the Ravens just, like, I didn't learn anything new about them yesterday.

I think what we learned, we knew this about the Broncos, Like there is a delta when you put, and the Ravens can make some teams look like this. Like they have made. Especially coming off, like you're playing the Ravens in the worst possible position. No question. Pissed off, they lost a indivision game last week,

that they shouldn't have lost, their defense, they drop balls, they're mad. They're mad. And when the Ravens are mad, it's not good. No. So, uh, did you learn anything about the Dolphins-Bills game? Well, and I mean this respectfully,

I don't take any like solace. and saying this, but the fins are cooked now. Like, they're eating dolphin, you know, like, it's, which is illegal, I think. Yeah, in this country, it is. Yeah. But I, I've definitely seen YouTube videos of them eating dolphin. Now, the story on the,

story on the dolphin season is probably like, ah, they could have been, you know, a wildcar team, or they, maybe you could think they, they should have made a run at the division, but like, right now, the hole is too big. The hole was dug early in this season. with the way they played but also a quarterback being hurt and not having a fucking backup that could

just win a damn game or something i thought tua played well yesterday i thought like early in the game i was like he's not going he's going to have to make a throw in the red zone in this damn game they're just running screens down here it's just screens and damn but that throw he made in the red zone where he was actually like mobile pumped a couple times had to play off script if you're ever wondering why i put him below some other quarterbacks because i don't see that enough okay That was a hell of a play and a really good performance by him, honestly. And the run game, though, to me was the key. And just to stay in this game, because the bills, they start slow at home.

Like, that's what we've noticed outside of that night game against the Jags. All three of their noon games, one o'clock games. I call them noon games. I grew up in the Midwest in the NFL. We were noon games for real. But these 1 p.m.'s at home, Buffalo is sleptwalk through the first halves. Yeah. So I thought they came out too conservative and ended up in a.

a game and obviously the keon coleman thing should be a touchdown and ends up a fucking interception and the game swings completely and then for me it was the dolphins getting the run game going and i think customarily when the dolphins play the bills the bills do a really good job of taking away the perimeter stuff and i thought they turned a lot of their outside zone runs into downhill runs like i thought they just were like we're gonna we're gonna test these guys chin and the credit to the dolphins is they can run the fucking ball we know that about them i mean and when they get that run game going the voids in space really open up yep and i thought too did a really nice job of making making them competitive in this game but at the end of the

at the end of the day rome momentum taren johnson right punch out beautiful it's a beautiful punch out it was just like they was they really like you're saying like Miami they when they start to get that run going with moisture and a chain it can feel like it's really too much to stop if they get it and like I feel like they were kind of getting into that mode, and then that punch out just changed momentum completely. I just want to say this thing. I saw David Smith, Finn's width to our for real.

That is not what I'm saying. By any stretch of the imagination. What I'm saying is like this was a good game by the dolphins. Okay, like... Yeah. How about this? They have not been the same team to me since, I don't know, last year. Like, I just felt like some of the shine wore off and some people...

We were talking about this yesterday. I do think that there is some figuring that offense out that goes on because there are some limitations. Right. Now, if they got the run game humming, they're always going to be in the game. And I thought this was just like not for nothing because it is kind of over for them. Like two wins right now. Two win teams. Are they sellers?

That's that's the question we got to be asking because should be. And would you drive three hours up the road and maybe go see Baker if? they get a win tonight or would you go to West Coast? So you like Tyreek going to Tampa. I like Tyreek going to L.A. I think just for... And I'm talking about the Chargers. I'm just thinking about realistic stuff.

I don't know what's realistic. Personal business, but Tyreek has a lot of kids in Florida. So like to stay close, to get on the team, I mean, that's not too different. Yeah. You got like a streaky quarterback. But I think Baker would love to throw him some bombs. Like, you know?

If there's something I'm missing about the tradeability of Tyreek Hill, let me know, but I think it's time to sell if you're the dolphins on some level. But if I'm Mike, I'm not giving him up. But how old is Tyreek Hill? Still, I'm not giving him up. He's 30. He's got some more good years. He's definitely got more good years in him.

But the question is, like, is there something you could use on your roster that you don't have right now? Or is the question, does taking him off the roster change that offense to the point where I demand one thing. No way in hell do not let Andy Reed get his hands on him again. I just like it's not fair to anyone else if that happens so maybe so maybe directly handicap Andy Reeve I saying him to LA to Justin Herbert now I know this is fantasy land shit and Miami fans will be like are you fucking

kidding me a a JIV dot 11 I just want you guys to hear me when I say this you can call me whatever but the thing I just said Mike McDaniel is one in 14 versus teams with winning records Is that true? He might as well coach the Bengals. Because I've been using that stat with the quarterback's name, but I should also use it with the head coach's name as well. Oh.

You know what I'm saying? Like, whatever it is, they have not been good playing good teams. And that could be the wrong stat, but it's not far off. It's not far off. And that's the problem is like, I kind of, I kind of want to see a different iteration of this group. Like, you've got to do something with the offense. I mean, I don't know what it is,

but like there's too many games where you play a good team where it's just like your handicapped. Ramsey, Ramsey blow up pending. He's not a happy guy when he's on losing teams. You can't fucking, you know,

there were Finns fans talking about, oh, let's fire Mike McDaniel earlier this year. I don't know what they're saying now, but like,

my point is this, you just paid a quarterback that can run his system, and that's like mostly the system he can run. Like, yeah, you put him in some of these other offenses,

it's not going to look the same. And that's not a shit. What I'm saying is, you can't fire Mike. We just paid the quarterback. They're married, dude. So like what are we going to do in the future?

Are we sellers? Are we not sellers? But they're cooked. And, and, and, uh, and I think the bill is just a really, um, really gutsy win for them. I mean, Josh Allen in the red zone. That's the kind of ball where we're all just screaming like on the, like we're all jumping up and down. Like that was nuts.

I mean, and I feel like part of the deal is early in the game, this team sleepwalks until Josh makes a big play. And he got, he made those. big plays in the red zone but they called them back on those tiki tack holding calls like they not very good but they found a way to win this is a damn good team they have seven wins very quietly seven wins you know i think a lot of people you ask them who the best teams in the afc are they're going to say chiefs they're going to say the ravens they're but they're not going to say the bills the bills if they get some guys back on defense are contenders they are they might be contenders

right now the way they are. Yeah. So another more in an AFC. We got Chargers Browns. And if Tyree Kiel does make that move to the Chargers, are they how far up those AFC playoff, the AFC playoff picture, do the Chargers fire? Are they in the fifth spot?

Do you think anything you get? Did I miss something? Is Tyree Kiel actually on the trade block? No, we put them on the trade block. This is just us talking about. For funzies. This is for fun. is us playing fantasy gm i think the chargers are good man i like the chargers i do too like how they're

they i mean they struggled against miles garrett in the past rush from the browns i was garrett's a fucking dog everyone does hit three sacks he's a fucking dog uh but i love the chargers dude i think they're good i think they're built to win late in the season i'm kind of riding the chargers train right now oh i love the charges it would help to have one more guy if you watch the chargers you see wide receivers letting this guy down sometimes. And like that, like when they get in these games where, listen, you can't be, you can't be sleepwalking through half the game against the Saints.

You can't be. Now, they did a better job of building a lead and sticking to it this week. Like, and to your point, the defensive line in Cleveland still playing really good. There was a moment in the game. I don't know if ever, ever seen this. And you pointed this out with Miles having three sacks. I don't know if I've ever seen somebody have three sacks and four plays. okay i'm just telling you they it was like they were backed up he just was like fuck this he beat

who's a very good player rshawn slater twice in a row and then i guess next possession first play he's like let me get some of joe alt and runs right through joe all and like did you see uh jim's little smile on the sideline it was so good schwartz is so nice they like he's just smirking he's just smile, loving life. Well, listen, love of life and cool, they dropped two coverages for touchdowns. I don't know what they were doing on those on those coverages. You know what sucks for the Chargers? What?

That the Rams and the Bengals won this weekend because there's probably guys on that team if they were the lost, they might have been sellers. Oh, yeah. But they won and they're kind of still in it. Oh, yeah, no question. Just think about Cooper Cup floating around. But I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you who was, it felt like they were, they were trying to make the, the search and rescue plane notice them was Miles

Garrett. like he kind of felt like he was like down here i know i know i'm not on the list but yeah seriously like the end of um end of the uh what's the man there's a really good zombie movie 28 days later this is a fucking amazing movie have you seen that movie have you all seen 28 days later no great movie right movie it's one of the best movies i'm not a zombie they're actually about to come out but not 28 weeks later that's like the major league four of the 28 days series yeah is that a sequel yeah is that a sequel yeah I agree. It's so unmemorable.

They're about to come out with 28 years later. I'm excited for that one, Matt. But like there's some guys that are probably in Jokos being talked about as somebody on the block. Moore Newsome. J.O.K. is on IRR. So probably not. But like, obviously not. But like, but Miles Garrett, like,

I don't know. I know it's like a fantasy land thing. But if you think about like, why not? Why not? Why? why why not why the way he and Zadaria Smith is probably going to Detroit with there's certain talk about this like it's going to happen so

well isn't that what Dan Campbell was alluding to mysteriously last week and that in his presser probably I thought it was the Chris that's kind of the vibe that I got I thought Chris was good with me I know but like you know he's younger he's cheaper he's not leaving this job for less than

a chick fillet in the facility. What the, what I think has been so great about the Chargers is the last couple years they've needed Justin Herbert to win games, right? He's had to throw them into the

wing column. That hasn't happened this much, or as much this year, right? Yeah, yeah. Bo looked at it a couple weeks ago that his passes over their first couple weeks, his attempts are less than half of what he had the last couple years.

Oh, no, yeah, no question. You're not getting him killed. You have a run game. You have a run game. I mean, like, they are doing the thing you do with, like, a bridge, but they're doing it with, like, one of the best quarterbacks on the planet. And that's kind of fun. Damn.

I mean, like, everyone's fan base wants Miles Garrett. They say Miles Garrett is the prettiest girl at the prom. I just read that. And I see all these fan bases being like, we'll take them. Yeah. No, seriously, I mean, he would make anybody better. Eagles, you would be, how excited would you be? How bad would you glaze that if they found the way to get in?

Just thinking about it, it makes you excited. Yeah, I would be overjoyed, you know? And I would be overjoyed for the player because that's not where you want to play football. Not that you wouldn't want to play in Cleveland. Whenever Cleveland gets it right, it's going to be incredible. There's going to be nowhere you'd rather be than Cleveland. It's going to feel like the economy is right. so far from happening it feels like

Detroit. When's the next time Cleveland's good? So what's the point? What's the point? What's the point of making this guy what are you selling jerseys? Probably a lot of them. Probably a lot of them. I feel bad for people that play for this team.

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Sorry to yell. Sorry to yell. We're doing Raiders bengles. Sexy raid. Yeah. Raiders bangles. A little flyover. So explain the Jermaine Burton thing.

So, and Nolan correct me if I'm missing any of these pieces. But early in the week, they were like, Jamein Burton is going to be a huge part of the game plan with T. Higgins out. On Saturday, I believe it was that he missed a walkthrough. And then he was wiped. He's a healthy scratch from Saturday or from Sunday. And literally coming out of Alabama, Nick Saban said his biggest issue going into the NFL is maturity.

He has to mature. There was a game last year. I think he was caught punching a fan on the field at Alabama. He was the one when one of the fans, one of the fan bases streaked, or not streaked, but rushed the field, that one fan got in his grill and he swung on him. And then you see all these players, you see the video of Joe Burrow, like, mouth, like saying, why are you sitting? Get your ass up. Like, have a good, support your teammates if you're not playing. Right. And all is, Mike Hilton, also after the game, he said,

you got to be, you got to be professional in this league. Zach Taylor after the game said, hey, if we have to be mature, we have to go about things the right way, he's going to be a huge help for us. Yeah. But the issues this past week, we had to scratch him. Dude, you're doing the guy a disservice if you don't do what Joe Burroughs doing if you don't treat him like this right because if you just tell the guy it's going to be okay and like you know like it's not going to be okay it's your career you're fucking with but right now you're fucking with us like you're fucking with everybody in this building when you don't show up the time when you don't do the right things when you don't show up when you when you don't when you don't study your your playbook like whatever it is like this is not just doing yourself

a disservice but you you could cost us the season because the margins are thin right Now they're razor thin and Joe said it. I'm going to be a different kind of leader. And maybe that kind of leader is the guy that's like, get off the bench. You don't even need to be sitting here. And lucky for him, like Joe said, like if you weren't as good as you are, like you'd have been out of there. Guys get cut for less.

And the fact that they had you in the game plan, bro. Like that's really what hurts the most is that you were in the game plan. It's walked through before the game. They already made the game plan. You're in it. Hey, Brett. That's a good question, Brett Stoneman. and he said Jason can throw a phone, but Burton can't punch a, punch a frat bro.

I agree with it. When he was thinking that, I thought about the Jason thing. And I was like, you know what, though? I'm not sure what that guy said to him. But the point is, like, if Jason smashes the guy's phone, it doesn't hurt the team. You know what I mean? It's just, it's a decision that Jason makes individually. He's not a part of a team.

You know, you could argue that it's hurting. Good for views, if anything. It's his ESPN. There's his teammates at ESPN. is a but there's a difference like we need this guy he's a good player and i wasn't aware of the situation in alabama i don't watch amateur football okay i only watch the professionals but like homeboy punch it not this week i'm going down to bad and rouge maybe that should have been the damn layup line i'm going to do a layup line on the way out today because i'm calling baton rouge or we save

it for next week but um listen i do think there's something too fans need to fucking give players their space when they rush that field and there's just not really a way around it is like so i get the emotion and one of my best friends le garret blunt that i play with and somebody that i hey i'm pretty sure whatever the guy at boise state said to him he earned it pretty sure okay so yeah your point is a good one but in this circumstance if you're generally undependable and one of the ways it manifests is just hauling off and punching somebody after a game and the other way it manifests is not shown at the practice and the other way it manifests is missing a meeting, and then you're a shit show, you know?

So we're trying to avoid having shit shows that we depend on in the NFL. Like, I think that's what Joe Burroughs doing. And the next-saving point notwithstanding. You guys got to show up and do his job. And that's, what I like about Joe is that is the leadership that is demanded in this situation. Yeah.

You know? And you saw it from across the locker room, what Nate was saying, And every one of the interviews of guys that gave after the game on this topic, they said he's going to be a huge proponent for us. He's going to be a huge piece of the Bengals' future. Every single one. Zach Taylor said, and Joe Burroughs said it, Mike Hilton, all the guys.

Okay, Brett, let's do it. Brett Stilman said for the record he shouldn't have punched that guy. My question is, do you know that for sure? Do you know what was said? Are there any words that maybe you could get punched over? but that's my point is like when these fans or whoever they are like you leave things to chance with grown men it's like i don't know if you've been around enough grown men no but even like i think the players are always in the right if the if the um the field and the place is going to let fans

rest the field you're always on the side of the players like it's it's just a it's a safety issue all the way around like there's no way to police that many i'll tell you what they should do they should do a countdown and get all the fucking players off the field and then when the red lights go everybody rush to the field the buildup would be crazy you don't have that everybody's down there at the

because there has to be a way you can have both and I love carrying damn goalposts off too I'm still into that whatever it costs taxpayers I'm fine with it all the RMC or whoever all the events staff people that don't actually do anything from withholding people they should all be used for the opposing team that

loses like help them ushered off field that's how they should do it are we ready for another flyover yeah hold on before we but the bengals are not cooked but the other side of that game uh raiders o's c luke getsis was let go after the game fired and olymp coach and qb coach and again it's the same story for the bengals though yeah even though though they're not cooked they play to get the raiders are so bad they're bad they're so bad and look the bengals are still in it but it holds true like if you look at the wins that they have Are you still on this? Bro, if you just look at the wins that they have.

Right. You're not impressed. No, I'm not. You're not impressed. And I just want to see them. Like, yes, they played. They took the Ravens into the playoffs. But we've been talking about Ravens play down.

I want to see them play well. But the Ravens weren't playing down there. Yeah, no. The Ravens were playing the best they could and they found themselves down two scores of this team. And I want to see that Bengals team. Like from them. Look, you got it.

You're going to have a night game. If the Ravens lose to the Bengals at, home at 8.15 at night, then what are you going to say? I'm just saying, I'm not saying I think it's going to happen, but what are you going to say? He's going to eat some more uncooked too. Exactly. I'm going to have no choice but to eat my words. But again, bro, they had, until they can beat a good team, it's going to be the same story. I know, but two weeks ago, you were like, I think the Browns got a shot. They might not get another win until the Titans. Who, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the Bengals. Oh, no, no, no, my bad. My bad.

They're playing at Dallas. Listen, I mean, you know, this game's going to be monumental. Yeah. On the seventh here. Probably going to be a good game. 815. What, is that, is that the seventh, Thursday night? In the next week, the 17th, the Chargers just got flexed.

Flex. They're Sunday night. Chargers bangles. So maybe they know something we don't know. Okay, a game. Great game. Maybe they got some bangers winning. So now if they win, you're going to say,

say they flexed them too early it was a it was a conspiracy because it is a conspiracy why are they doing that right the great thing about conspiracies is you're never wrong seriously and i'm not even saying this about a single conspiracy i said this before in this pod and people in the chat were like i don't why are you talking about this one conspiracy i had like i'm not just saying across the board it's a lot harder to prove a conspiracy theorist wrong and that's why you're so tough to to pin down harbour brothers is still going baby yeah They both haven't lost in the week yet. Yeah, that is important.

Luke gets he got fired. Yep. You know. And Antonio Pierce said he's going to make the decision on who calls the plays. It's going to be 100% coming from him. Next flyover game, Saints at Panthers. Yeah. This isn't a flyover game, dude.

This is the Cotonel do-do toilet bowl. Yeah, it's not good. That's bad. bat ball bat ball hospital balls hospital balls saints outgained the panthers by 150 plus yards ran for 150 plus yards and won the turnover battle and lost over the past 20 years teams had gone 275 and oh with that formula so it's 275 to 1 now yes that is special you got to be special to do that I mean that's a that's a unique kind of bad yes they beat a team so bad they beat a couple teams so bad early in this season I mean like only two

and the guy everyone the how crazy is that I'm gonna tell you only only two and we got hyped and then they lost every single game well guess why because they did that dirty shit to the Eagles oh yep there's a conspiracy a true there you go there you go I told you bro football guys don't like that BS God doesn't like ugly oh and it got Dennis I'm not talking about faces no no because he made those things yeah i'm talking about for the ugly behavior yeah and that was ugly behavior and they've they've continued to have ugly behavior and and and you know i talk about derrick car can we talk about derrick car because i kind of felt when he stood up at the podium

after the game i listen did he play well fuck no is he is he like is he playing like a elite quarterback fuck no like i'm not here caping for the player but what i am saying is like the man i think i was interesting like he said out of the game he's like i've had so many teammates in this tone like this is can you pull up the michael thomas tweets for people who don't live online like us and hey listen i get it you know you might be grinding an axe mike thomas i totally get it like maybe he threw you some hospital balls and you got to realize like some positions are totally dependent upon other positions like in know like for your success and that sort of thing so i get him kind of not being a fan of

darrett cars but like boy him getting online and talking about you really got to scroll down huh or maybe he deleted them is that possible no way he i think you so he and then pull them up together he said uh they fired all them coaches trying to cover cover his flaws up he do still do in the same shit. Dude tried to lie and say I was jealous of them making Chris wide receiver won the whole time. He can't even get him a decent ball. He need his ass whoop.

That year his buddy went first team all pro in 2022. He needed 180 targets just to catch 100 balls. He is ass on my granny. Dude. He is ass on my granny. I'm on my mom. I never thought I was saying it. It's just kind of like it's like confirming.

Like grandma ass. No, like I swear. I swear. granny's life that he's at. I know on mamas. I know what on mammas. Exactly. On grannies must be like a whole It trumps it. It trumps it because Grandmothers trump's your mom.

You're more important. And that's a I mean, right after. I think they're all worth the same. He birthed. The grandmother birthed the mom. But they're all worth the same. By that logic is the mom more important than your daughter? You know what I mean? Like then you've got

to make decisions like that on daughters. On daughters. What about on my auntie? Where is that fault? Not as important. You're not, you might not be telling the truth. Like, Auntie, then mom. No, no, no, no. And he fired off right after Dennis Allen got fired. He's fired off, there he go.

I'm not going to lie. If I was Derek Carr, I know Derek, you got to be respectful. And you're, you're, you did perfect at the podium. But bro, no one would have hated it if you got up there and been like, you know what, Michael Thomas, get off my dick. Yeah, but you know what? Like, and just drop the mic. Oh, yeah.

And his voice, like, you know. Or go online and put G-O-M-D and just leave it there. But I'll tell you. You don't have the confidence to fire off tweets like that when you lose to every single NFL football team. My question was like, was there a universe where they show him those tweets that they have to motivate him? You know what I mean? Like a staffer comes in. He's like, hey, Derek, I did.

Derek might want to walk on real quick. Check Mike Thomas. Mike Thomas timeline. Unblock Mike Thomas real quick. He said your ass on grandmas. So, but here's my issue is like, Derek Carr handled it perfectly. And he's a bigger man than me.

And like, sometimes I'll see adults, adulting and I'll be like, damn, I really, I really don't have it together because I would have been totally different in that situation. But he is truly a guy. I admire for the way he handled himself. Like, I'm not. saying the player is great right now, but what I am saying is like, he got up there and he was like,

hey, listen, I've had a ton of teammates. He's the only one that's ever had that we haven't been able to, like, get along, you know, I've reached out to him. I haven't changed my number. I'm hoping for the best for him. Like, that was like, damn, holy adult. Yep. And it got to be, and it has to be true because in the world full of clout, by now, an old teammate that might have not liked Derek Carr would have been like, bro, I didn't like you either. Like I think somebody would have like, they would have tweeted or been like, you know what? Like, yeah, I didn't like you either. That's a lie.

Vante Adams loves him. Like, a lot of his teammates in Vegas seem to love him. Like, I don't know. But every team, you usually have a guy. Like, you usually have a guy you're on team with, even if they're a star. You got one guy that loves you. That you end up like maybe don't like. You're just like, hey, we're on a team together.

had a guy that like we're on a team together but i i don't see myself hanging out or really interacting with you like outside the locker i think i think it's a big logical leave to think everybody's got that guy that you would write 10 tweets about while they're playing football and you know like and they can't defend themselves they just you just you know what your best take yesterday was was the squid game came up hey hey bo squid game came up and they were like you watch squid game chris and i was like, no, a little dark for me. And Nate goes, is it? Is it dark? Like, you think that's dark? And I go, bro, like, there's a hundred or so people that got killed over, like, living in poverty, basically. That was the premise of the thing. It's like, you're so impoverished that you have to go

risk your life on this fucking game show and you die at the end of it. And Nate goes, yeah, but the winner won like $5,000. No, four mill, four mil, four mil. The winner. They're like four mill. That's not dark. I'm like, bro, like, it can't get it. It doesn't get a lot of 99 people or whatever. He cares about the one winning. DA, bro.

Devil's advocate. DA. That's my dog. The last point about this game just real fast. Bryce Young, how do you think he played? I mean, he had to cook. Cooked or uncooked? Bryce Young.

I'm uncooked. Like, he put that ball on the wide receiver got taken away. a perfect path. Flyover game. Didn't see all the roads. Don't want to comment on until I look at it. Hey, we come back in the preview show.

It'll be Glaze City. He sucks. This game sucked. Both teams suck. The coaches on both staffs. That's my thoughts. Like my professional opinion. My professional opinion is Dennis Allen really lasted a long time.

Long time. Like if he has a, he's a good coordinator. He's not a good head coach. He was a fighter. Yeah. Like he just wouldn't quit. He wouldn't go down.

He was a dead guy. He's the type of dead guy that put his, you know, people through like five years or something. Like, yeah, you know what I mean? He would have made it to the top 10 in Squid Games for sure. Yeah.

He's like the one at every, at the end of every movie when one guy has to die. And he takes like six hits that would have killed everybody else. But he like he has the sword sticking out of his shoulder and like he gets hit three times in the back. Didn't Ben Stiller get killed that way in, uh, Tropic Thunder or no. No. Oh, he's the,

what did Robert Donnie Jr? Who was he telling to survive? Oh, he's the, he's the fireman from. from the Game of Thrones that they just keep bringing back to life with fire. Oh, I kept him back to life until that last time.

Say it again? Or Thoros. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oroz. Until that, until that last time, they just couldn't bring them back.

Thanos does this thing. I know Thanos. He does this thing. I don't happen in the books, though, now. I'm inevitable. And then the world ends,

supposedly. I've never seen the movie. For half of people. For half of people? Yeah, that's the whole thing. He, like, wants to half of everything.

He wants to kill half the people. Yeah. Wait, you don't know this, Chris? I don't either. I haven't watched the movie. You haven't seen an end game? No. It doesn't sound like what's going on tomorrow?

Yeah, really. Last flyover game. Patriots Titans. Neer. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, I've never seen a team lose a game that felt so much like a damn win. Oh.

Seriously. I mean, I know those pads. players want to win games they could have had three wins by now like they're almost at the total so you know when people are talking about gerob mayo like this team's fighting you know he called him soft a couple weeks ago the team did well i don't i don't know if i can call them that after yesterday like they hung in there they almost won that damn game i mean i got to watch the uh the all 22 Nate before i start calling people soft you think they were soft they're not firm you thought they were soft yesterday i just think they're not firm did you did you think they were soft yesterday uh

Tell me what you don't like about their team. They're just not good. Okay, D.A. These devil's advocating. But look, you want to know the best thing about them? What? And a positive for them, they're so good at not being good. They have Drake May right now.

Drake May. Who's the number one pick, and they're still in the running. Exactly. For the number one pick, if they keep losing this year. Dude, as soon as he threw that ball to send them into overtime, it was like, it doesn't really matter. Now, part of that, I guess a lot of this is the fact that I had them with three points. So as soon as I went to overtime, it was like, hey, kick a field goal for all I care. Like, it doesn't matter.

That was, you need to start thinking about Travis Hunter. That was an incredible, Travis Hunter. Yeah. That was incredible Drake May played. No. Unbelievable. What? That was incredible.

What? Hold on a second. Hey, you think Travis Hunter is going to be a first overall pick? I think he's going to be up there. I'm saying for the Patriots. He's going to be up there for sure, and the Patriots might get one of those picks. So, yeah. I don't think he's going to be top five.

Where do you think he's going to go? That's fine. He just hates Colorado. We did this before. You think Travis Hunter's a second round pick? He hates Colorado, bro. He hates Colorado. He hates Colorado.

He's out of a Heisman trophy. Everything about Colorado, bro. Don't do this right now. Well, you can't say how you're telling me. This is a doctor-fax take right now. But it doesn't matter. You're telling me that if you're a mid-d-quarter, if you're a mid-d-d-bid-a-bid-visiver,

you're a top-5. You think he's mid? See, look. I don't even, I'm not even saying anything. Damn, bro, you're acting like facts right now. Yeah, he is. With this, when it's Colorado player. This is a facts take right now.

When it's Colorado players, this is how he's. If you're mid at both, if you're mid at both positions, that makes you a top 10 at both together. We'll just remember. We'll clip this for next. Yeah, yeah. We're going to put this. What? Like, what?

I'm so confused. Don't do it right now. No, I'm confused. I know. He wants you to be confused. I'm not going to be confused. He wants you. I'm not going to do this.

You're going to look at the numbers and be like, wait what no i look at the tape yeah exactly look at the tape yeah he he makes one i don't watch any tape that's evident i don't watch much college at all but like i've seen this guy do some things that i'm like bro that's rare suddenness like that's rare break on the ball that's rare body control that's where and when you get that all that to go with the production man i feel like he's the top five pick that's just me Travis hunter will get drafted will get reached drafted in the first round by shitty organization and squander his

career. Damn, damn. God Lee. Hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. That's not hate. That's not hating Travis Hunter. He's mocked number one in like half the mock drafts out there right now. Let's head to the missions, guys. Yeah. One last note on this game, the Pats did

mess up the coin toss in overtime. They lost, the Titans got it, and they decided to play into the wind. Drake May's intercept. and was held up in the wind as well. Oh, it's a real Bob Seeger move there by Rob Mayo. You don't want it. Against the win. You don't want to go against the wind.

You don't want to be Bob Seeger and OT. So, uh, but what, what you do want to do, what you do want to be is bed MGM before Greenlight's bed MGM moments. Oh, that's true. That's true. Reed, I'm so glad you said that. As we head to our bed MGM moments, thanks to bed MGM and all you football fans, I want you all to picture something.

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I thought I saw him at two thirds. That's pretty damn good, huh? A lot of people were like, oh, he's terrible at this. He's destroying people out here. I want to hear Nick Sabin next show just say, hey, Steve, I heard you're clapping cheeks on your Yeah. Someone told me you're clapping cheeks out there. Way to go.

Clap them cheeks down. I'm sure Pat McAfee would say it. Down, I've said it before, but I'm totally surprised and I'm loving Nick Saban, like, on that, on that set. Like, I didn't think it was going to work out. It is objectively awesome. It's just, it's so great, bro. He was that, because he's so different on there from what he looks like from outside looking in, watching him coach.

He was the perfect missing piece. And like I thought like adding Pat was great. And like I think Steve's great on there. I think you know like all those guys are great. They're all fixtures. But I think I think adding a guy like that and elder statesman to a cast like our inside the NFL show adding bill this year was incredible. Like it just it brings out something different in all the young guys.

It's the same thing. We love like having those father figures on set with us, dude. Like that's like yeah like you lean in when they talk. The dichotomy. Yeah. Yeah, like, and it's player and coach. It's the way a player thinks about something and the way of coach thinks about something is awesome.

Best flight, Ben MGM moments. We're going to fly through these puppies. Hey, good night, Caleb. Shout out to Caleb. Been up for 24, about to get some big Zs. Big fan, thank you, Caleb. I love being up for 24 hours and then being so damn tired

you can barely fall asleep. You know, that's kind of like... You get goofy tired? Oh, goofy tired. It's the best. Dude, one time I drove from Flagstaff to Charlottesville without stopping. That's wild.

That's wild. Wait, swear to God. Arizona. 30-something hours of driving. Didn't stop. Only stopped for gas and one time to let my wife drive for two hours in Kentucky because that's where the road was straightest and least hazardous. She knows it.

I was awake all night driving through Oklahoma City, the whole thing. I really drove from L.A. to Virginia. Stopped in Flagstaff for six hours. That was my stop. I got some trucker blood, bro. Jeez. I got a CDL. 2084 miles it's a long way long way don't sell yourself short oh I would love to be a trucker

just being alone yeah a lot yeah 10 for rubber dick you nothing but you and the music and you know can is in the brick cocaine in your truck the open road roll on highway roll on along I wish Kyle was here for that because he actually knows that song yeah um best flight commanders you got to avoid the lot lizards though read yeah yeah you're out there on the that's It's not something you want to play with. No, you do not. Good. All good.

Why are you looking at me? What are you saying? Commanders. You said Commander's Best Flight? Oh, you want, Commander's best flight? Commander's best flight? Is that your... Okay. Yeah.

It's a bus ride. Lot lizards. Lot lizards. You know what they are? They're the prostitutes. On the way back. So commanders hit the lot lizards. No.

The Maryland House. We don't want the lot of lizards. The lot lizards don't stop is the Maryland house. The lot lizards don't stop at the Maryland house, dude. Yeah, they do. You think they stop at the Maryland house? Yes, you just don't know where they're at. You do? You're not hip to it. You do? Because look, when you're a regular car, I don't know about it. No, when you have a regular car, you're not even allowed to go over into the truck section. That's what, that's what they're doing. They're protecting the trucker's privacy. Yep.

And then the new waste, lot lizards, if you're really on your game, you got to wait near I love lie lizard talk. Listen, you got to wait near the electric, vehicle charging stations because they have to stay there for at least two hours. Who does? If you have an electric car, you have to charge your car. So what a hell are a lot lizards figure in? Because you have to just sit and wait for two hours. So that's perfect timing.

Oh, so the lot lizards are trying to get the EV drivers too? Yeah. Like, I mean, if you're really up on your game, why not only truckers? I don't know if they are, but it makes sense. Truckers, truckers stop to rest. I don't think lot lizards. I don't think lot lizards do both. I think they're just like they have like a thing.

That's a lot of lot lizard clients. You got truckers on this side and you have EV drivers. Right there. Right there, bro. They're the ones that are stopping for a long time now. Evie drivers are 520. Have you been talking to Kevin Clark? Yeah, we're good.

We're good. We've got 20. 25 minutes. So, Bo, what's your best flight? Oh, fuck. Tough transition from lot lizards into best flight. Best flight Detroit. lines big winning green bay short short little flight get out of that shit storm of weather that

monsoon in green bay green bay sucks back to detroit really you think green bay sucks no i like green bay they put hollandaise sauce on everything oh i know chris i know it's nuts bro is that is that the sauce they put on when you oscar your state it looks like somebody it looks like what they did to it looks like some of the reps were doing whatever they were doing to uh who was it are they ejaculated yeah Hollande sauce is nasty, bro. It's just, it looks like Peter North is back in the kitchen. Damn.

Like, great white. Some old motherfuckers in this chat, get that. Which your best flight? Best flight. Glad you asked. Chargers. Chargers. No, that's not the best flight.

It was a long one. Yeah, it's a long one. No, you know why I like the Chargers flight? it's an early game you're back early right they're back at one they're back yeah yeah yo five or six five or six you might still beat the sun dude even with the daylight savings which by the way i'll say this too daylight's fall back or whatever we're in it's really hard to understand even in year 39 um it definitely changes the tone of the four pms things get a little more ominous I feel like it's a shit show like the minute fall back happens all

all the 4 p.ms turn into shit shows. So just look out for that. Yeah. And kids, babies, they don't respect. Not at all, bro. They do not give a shit about it. My daughter has been off the change the past couple of days since they last day last year.

Bro, I'm like showing my one-year-old a clock. I'm like, yeah. Do you see this? Yeah, she does not care at all. My kids will go off all confused. Worst flight? Glad you asked, Nate. I am going with Derek Carr.

That's my worst flight. Him sitting on that flight, reading tweets and reading articles, all aimed at him, losing to almost every single franchise, and then his ex-teamate just blasting him. And then the worst thing about it, too, whether he's seen it or not, it probably really is disturbing, not only to see the tweets, but to see how many likes and retweets that the tweets actually have. Like that's what's kind of like, damn. And it sucks. You said he has lost almost every team.

He's still got the Raiders on the schedule. So he's sitting there knowing he's got this game that he could be the first quarterback to lose that every single team. And you know Max Proudly. Crosby can't wait to hit his eyes. Nope. All right. Worst flight. Glad you asked.

I'm going to say it's the Bears, dude. That's an awful flight. Sorry. It's just an awful flight. And it was raining. You guys took both my. And it was raining. It was raining.

It's probably turbulent, too, even though it was quick. Oh, for sure. It was raining in the desert. That's crazy. Never seen that. And then it was raining in the... I mean, not period of the desert, but during game there. Bo, do you have one?

I was going to say Saints. Facts, Great call. Then I was going to say Bears. Chris, great call. Now I'm going to say Broncos. Kind of got the brakes blown off you up. Yeah, in a long flight. You know?

I mean, Dallas. flight. Can you imagine? And the worst thing about the Dallas flight is like that's the type of place. Atlanta and Dallas, how far is that drive? I might rather fucking drive home. I mean, based on your drive for 11 hours. I could probably do a 12 hour drive. I just told you. I got trucker, but I'd much rather fucking get in the car immediately after the game, pull out of that lot. It takes two hours to load the plane up and depart. It takes. It takes. another hour to fly there, fly there 30 minutes. And you guys spend the whole time with your team. And the whole team scrolling through social media, seeing DAC saying we fucking suck in slow-mo.

Oh, yeah, that's bad. Rough. Uh, Bo, why don't you kick off Beville Conway so you can't get it stolen? Oh, I love that. Oh, man, I had a lot of good ones. Kelly Green. I'm going to say that's what I, you know, but no, I'm actually not going to say Kelly Green. Okay. That's too fucking easy. I'm changing it. The, uh, headstand, Selly photo of Amunra St. Brown is fucking electric. That is my Bevel Conway. I don't know how that little phenomenon has taken off so quickly, but yeah, amazing. Robert Moretti asked, do we only cover the NFC? Well, not necessarily, if you notice the Sunday night football game, uh, featured a team from the AFC as well as the Philadelphia game. He got in too late. Exactly. You got here too late. You got here too late.

It's all right. The show starts over. Can't be late. The show starts over in a little bit. You'll be You're Jermaine Burton, bro. Just be on time. We did the first half of the show. We got to order this shit somehow. You know? I love you, though. Yeah, we love you, bro.

I don't know if y'all saw this, but Alvin Camara actually started that head, head, whatever it's called. The head thing. That's him from back in Tennessee. Oh, that was him.

Camara in the middle. First and then somebody I love how it's a black and white. Yeah. That's tasteful. I thought it was from... It was from the college game. There was a big, obviously a big gap between Alton Camar's college.

But I thought it was from Chris Brown in the movie where he died, the dance movie. That's like his little finish a dance movie. Tyree. Anyway. Chris, Beville Conway. Oh, Bevel Conway. You know, I got an unexpected one. I actually think the Raiders and the Bengals have a beautiful color combination.

I think they look really good when they play each other. White and black. It's just like, it's just like kind of reminds you the eight. 80s, even though the Bengals could use going back to the old Anthony Munoz's, you know, with the tiger on the shoulder. I'm going Green Bay. Green Bay in the rain. I love the just plain, yellow, nothing on it, no decal helmets.

I think a lot of people don't like it. But with the all green, I think it looked good. Oh, man. I like it. I'm not going to king shame. I like it, bro. I mean, it reminded me of kind of. a little bit like the color rush, just all single one color, top and bottom together.

I think that looks good. I think maybe that's what it is. You like the monochromatic thing. Yeah. You like color rush. Yeah. You like those. And I think I hate, I'm starting to realize I hate dark pants white top.

Like whatever it is, I'm not a fan. You know what? I think New England for the longest time. When I played New England, I love that white top uniform. I like them both. I like them both. That's funny you say that because my anti-bevel Conway, I'm going to jump right in here. with you. Titans Pat. I'm with you. I think they have the worst, just regular, plain,

everyday jerseys, like in the NFL. They're just like, they're old school. They're not appealing. And I think that game was just, oh, yeah. No, I mean, I'm with you. That's what I had written down as well. But there are other ugly games. I can find out another ugly game. Bo, you got an anti? I had pets and Titans also. It's okay. We are agree. It's okay if we agree. You know, Dallas and Atlanta, that sucks. I mean, that's the ugliest stadium to watch on TV. I think personally that stadium is hideous. And then the Falcons uniforms could be so much better.

Really, you know? You really can. Jeff George, please. Jeff George on line one. Because they have just a dope logo and like dope colors. They look like some gestures, bro. That's who they remind me of. When they debuted the fucking, they look like a bunch of court gestures.

It's like the Titans and the Falcons. Falcons both had, they were just too early or late. Titans of the Falcons. The, like, their jerseys. They were like, oh, we're trying to be when they. Innovative. Yeah, yeah, trying to be innovative. Yeah, yeah, trying to be ahead of the curve.

But yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, bro, these are what the jerseys will look like in 2050. They look like they're the dudes rocking. They look like any given Sunday. They're the dudes watching, rocking Koogee and fucking rockawares. Everybody knows you don't do that. It's just like, that was the style back. but it's like, I would never,

fly in the wall. Fly on the wall. Fly on the wall. Flying on the wall. Flying the wall. Wow. Fly on one. Go ahead. I would have loved to have been a fly at the wall at the good old Penn State college football game. Somebody is my buddy, J. Kelsey. To see what all, to see what really happened, how that, how that interaction transpired. I would have loved to have witnessed that. Does that look like fun? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

I kind of would have felt like we were security for him and then we might end up catching the charge. You know what I mean? Not many opportunities you get to smack a frat boy in the face like that. Like justified like in broad daylight

head sober. I'm not going to lie. Is it like the craziness in me? But I want to see the angle of that kid's phone if that video went to Did the phone break or not? No, no. Like it probably broke.

Oh, the video. The video he was from that. There's got to be a, yeah. I mean, just go, psh, and then blacking a GoPro that gets eaten by like a bear. You know what I mean? Nate, do you have a fly on the wall? My fly on the wall is going to Jaden Daniels talking to Malik neighbors multiple times during the game. Mark Sanchez was not happy.

And I just would love to hear what he's saying. And then all the memes that they're putting of what neighbors possibly was. saying to him is just pure internet comedy. Yeah. What they, poor, poor Daniel Jones. Was it nice stuff or not nice stuff? No, it's like, it's like,

it's like Malik supposedly saying, hey, Daniel Jones's ass, trade for me, bro. Yeah, but why is Mark Sanchez upset? Because you shouldn't talk to your, you shouldn't talk to. Because it was in the middle of the game. He was saying do it before or after. I don't wanna see that happening

in the middle of the game. What were they, they were they talking? It was like on the sideline. Like during the game? Like after a play, basically? Yeah, yeah, yeah, in between plays. I mean, fuck. We're friends, bro.

You don't got any real friends, squant. Squant. Fly on the wall, fly on the wall. Fly on the wall. You know, I don't have time. Perfect. Nate and Bob and Chris, best seat. Anyone looking for a head coaching job?

Anyone looking for a head coaching job in the NFL? Justin Fields seeing Getsy getting fired. That's good. Maybe. Zeke. Zeke. Zeeke. Didn't have to travel with the team.

Didn't have to sit there on the sideline. Didn't have to do with that worst flight. We fucking stock. But the runner back... Go to Atlanta. The word of the cat, or get beat by the Falcons. Worst seat. Oh, it was me.

Me at Chris's house wearing my Apple Watch, when my Apple Watch telling me to stand up while I'm watching football every 30 minutes. You're like this fucking Apple Watch keeping me from dying. Just stand up. This fucking wearable tech making me healthier. But it's just like every time I see it,

it's like you lazy piece of shit, stand up right now. You're not doing anything. So what's next? My worst seat cowboy will be Chris Long down in Ole Miss as he watches the the Green Light Pod Red Bull Flutog team

Take home the fucking championship on Saturday. Chris, we're going to be doing champagne baths. I'm going to be taking shots at tequila, partying with the boys after we bring home a world record performance at Red Bull Flutag. And you're just going to be so fucking jealous. I am going to be jealous, but I'm not going to be at Ole Miss. I'm going to be in Baton Rouge, which is a big difference.

Old Miss game, wherever the fuck you're going to be at. Now, I would like to go to the grove, but I probably, but, but that's a next. That's a nice. I hear it's incredible. And I'm going down Friday night. And I have the real guard down there. My friend Ryan, Rissillo there. They have the alligator guards down there in Baton.

I know. I need to get one. Hollow man. Hollow man. Jerry and Jones, who will probably end up on a statue someday with him getting jumped over backwards by Sequin Barkley. Yeah, that's not good. He is in NFL infamy for forever.

But I literally hadn't heard his name yet. So maybe he skates because it's so, like, there's no touching in that play. And he jumped over like a couple people. It felt like, he skates for now, but like that pitcher is forever. Like that's a, that's a highlight that's going to be on Sequin's highlight thing. When you're like with your kids, like, and you're watching that on like a Sunday once you retire, you just say nothing. Dad, is that you? No, you just say nothing.

you just say nothing until a kid at school knows your dad's the one that got jumped over i see him on this card i had look bow would you have hollow man hollow man uh university of louisiana monroe assistant coach cam blenkinship absolutely fucking lost his mind during the game and i watched this clip and it was like i've been around excessive coaches before i think we all have this was like excessive excessive oh that was bad It was bad. It was ugly, man. Yeah, he's, yeah. He got a little bit, yeah. Oh, I do have a best seat. The guy who decommitted from Mississippi State. At the game. At the game. Got caught texting or tweeting that he's decommitting or texting a coach or what was he doing? And what was the tweeting? He was typing out the tweet. Yeah. What was the score? What was the score of the game at this point? That's hilarious, bro. There was another best seat. The Vanderbendero.

player who two years ago on Christmas was told that he doesn't have a spot on I forget what team I don't think he just uh or no it was the team that Vanderbilt played and then they beat him this week yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah fuck this college football it sounds great um stel memorial i'm giving to miles garrett i told you i'd never seen somebody get three sacks and four plays i mean unless i miss something i think it was three and four plays and it happened to be against two of the best tackles in the league, supposedly, I mean, right? He's just,

he's so fucking sudden. Like, it's just, you know when you're around somebody that big and they, and they move, it like, it's, like you feel the wind, you feel like the draft from them getting off the ball.

Or like, honestly, it's like the cell phone videos where people try to feed bears. You know how quickly a bear moves, all the sudden and people are like, oh, shit. That's what it's like being around somebody like Miles Garrett, dude. It's just the power and the suddenness. There's really nobody like him.

I'm not saying he's the best edge guy in the league. Like, you know, year after year we argue about T.J. Watt, Miles Garrett, Micah, you know, Nick Bosa. But he's the only guy who when I watch like my jaws on the floor every week. Like the stuff TJ does, I'm like, wow. what an amazing football player. Yeah. Like he's the best foot.

He was born to be a football player. But the stuff Miles Garrett does, I'm just like, holy shit, did that six, seven guy just run on the side of his foot? Yeah. Like six inches off the ground here. The way he bends to the corner is just unbelievable. He's 300 pounds. I think he's not 300 pounds. I'm rounding up.

But like, he's a fucking big man. Crazy. Bo, what do you have for a SEL Memorial? Seven receptions. 180 yards two touchdowns json balled out for seattle even though they lost in overtime

to the Rams but yeah a fucking great day good call Nate I was going to give it to the black t-boat but since Chris didn't say him I'm going to have to give it to Trey Hendricksson who had four sacks

and seven QB hits stop it yes he did and I know teams again like I was saying earlier I know teams were mad that the Bengals won because if you're a team that needed the end you probably definitely... Is that on Colton Miller, all that?

That I'm not sure, but he had a game, bro. He looked like... He's down the league leader in sacks. Look at that. 11 on the air. Good for him. Put some good tape out there just in case things go bad. I mean, you know?

I gotta keep it. It's a little too late. Yeah. But who'd you all have for game ball? Game ball. Game ball. Game ball. easy i got it go ahead oh Tyler bass 61 yard game winner get take the game ball great kick game ball

the guy probably didn't think he was going to get one of these again this season bryce young stepping in and getting the win you know i could give it to nikobi dean who probably saved us talking about next seriani in a different light um but i would like to give it to a coach uh dan campbell he's got his team ready to play every week dude and you guys know this from being in the NFL like there are teams that you know we've been on the maybe good teams that like you show up and you're complacent and you you don't play to you play down to people like they don't do that they play up to to good opponents they beat the dog shit out of bad opponents they have really put together incredible run into win in the weather yesterday where the home team was was not focused not ready

dropping balls like they just executed bro like dan campbell game ball and i learned this team i learned this from Dan Campbell. When there's a pick six on Sunday, you can go to Applebee's on Monday and get free wings. Isn't that interesting? Or half off or whatever it is. Six wings. So everybody can get six wings because there was a pick six? Yeah, there's probably some small writing. You probably have to buy a drink or something. Probably like in the markets or it's half. That's how like I think. Oh, it's got to be in the market on. So like in DC if the Nats hit a home or you get a free pizza. Really? It's like only in the area. Yeah. In the area, but like all the areas that they all like Like only, so that's only in Detroit?

I, that's, what if your team gets a pick six against you? Like, what if you're like, in Green Bay? What if you're like a terrible, you have a terrible quarterback in your market and like, you're living off Applebee's. Like, I could see you. Hey, Miss Winston. I can see you the way you take food home. Yep.

Like, I can see you going to have. Don't call me out by taking food off. You take a Tomahawk steak home. He ordered a Tomahawk steak. It was like, let me just put this to the side here. Can I get a go box for that? Because I'm going to be taking this home. He just texted me to,

wrap up that sushi. I bet he did. Bo, who'd you have for Drip King? Drip King. You got the photo of this one, Cowboy? Yeah, we do. Pretty, pretty good. T.J. Hawkinson back in the lineup.

The Vikes, Sunday night football, walking into the fucking stadium. Like, Jackson, Maine. Look at this guy. Looks like a fucking rock star. Who's Jackson, Maine? I got you, though. I really don't know. Stars born?

Born star or okay i just don't know the names of people in movies star is born's a good movie i just won't get another look at you yeah now sam elliott was was fantastic in the movie it's some of his best acting up there with him in the gronk commercials acting like he's not totally offended to be acting on a step dachs who'd you have for your viral moment of the week my viral moment of the week is going to coach shade beamer oh yeah dude of the Gamecocks, where South Carolina Gamecocks, that's right.

They won a big game against Texas A&M, and he had this whole thing set up that if they won, he was going to riz his wife up by having his team sing a song that they always sing in practice, this Fantasia, when I see you song.

And the way, he's just so excited to say this and to tell the DJ or whoever in their locker room to play this song while he's telling his wife, hey, come up here. I told my kids I had something special planned. And bro, when he says hit it and they play the music and he kind of claps his hand and excitement

and the team starts singing, I thought this was just a great video. Let's see the beginning of it at least. My family, then we're going to break it down. My wife, family, I know you're in the back. Come on up here, I'm all right? You've got a birthday coming up this week. All right? This is a great birthday for, great birthday present.

I told my kids all week that if we won this football game, all right, I was going to do a little celebration for her here. in the locker room. I'm in a new job of stealth but we ain't soon to have a birthday. I don't think it's at. All right.

I know y'all sing this song at practice. I'm going to need a little backup here. But this is her a little birthday. Hit it big mic. Hey. The minute he knew that was a hit. Girl,

way, we what's happening to me. That was pretty good, man. He's got the head coach all rights down. All right, bro. That's got to be it.

That's a thing. My high school coach John Blake shout out. His thing was look at. Look at. And they would chew you out. Quick Monday night preview. We've got the bucks at the chiefs. Chiefs are nine point favorites total.

Is it 46? Any plays we're putting on it? Honestly, I'm kind of lost on this one. I mean, for that line to be that big, you know they're going to, Vegas knows the chiefs don't come. cover big lines. They know that. And they know we know that. So I'm kind of wondering,

it's a trap. I'm wondering, that's a lot of points. I want to take the bucks. I think I want to take the chiefs if I had to take one. That's what I'm doing. Oh, Beau's cut. Can't hear him. Can't hear you, Bo. Now we can't. 2717 chiefs. Okay. Yeah, that'll cover. All right. So I'm I want to take the Chiefs, I think. At the very least, I might tease the Chiefs with the over. Nate, who you got his first touchdown score? First touchdown score, guys. Tonight, I got two picks.

I'm going to have a pick for each side just in case we got both Tampa and Kansas City fans. So for tonight, first pick, I am going with Carson Steele. He's a guy that the Kansas City Chiefs, they prove that they keep giving the ball. They trust them. I don't know why he fumbles a lot, but they do trust them. They give him the ball. Great odds plus 2,800. And on the other hand, another guy who runs the ball for them.

And a few games ago, we might have forgot. He had like 140 on the ground. Sean Tucker is great value plus 5,000 first touchdown tonight. And remember if your first score does not score and ends up scoring the second touchdown, you get your bet back. Can I ask you something, knowing nothing about his involvement in the game plan? What's Justin Watson's? first touchdown number tonight.

Let me look for you. Revenge game for Jay Watt. Justin Watson, revenge game. Used to be with the bucks. Yeah, so I'm kind of wondering. I feel like what's the, he's 22 to 1. 22, yeah.

Bro, that's worth throwing a little bit of something on. Nice. Just a sprinkle. And me and Matt, we kind of, we kind of discover this and don't want to make it too much of a big thing. But what happens if you bet on

no touchdown. How do you get a free bet back if no one scores? I think it's just push down as the first touchdown. If no one scores, you win. You win that, yeah. Oh, yeah, I guess that's what it is. You win. You answer your own question.

But if someone else scores, there's no way to get your bet back. That's true. That's the thing. That's a really good question. Hey, we'll have more good questions, good points. Who won the F word counter today? Did you guys do that? You dominated 57 to 13.

No way. You know what to take the high road? Wait, wait, wait. You won or you lost? Yeah. Oh, really? That's how many times you said it. I said fuck that many times?

You fucking talk. You thought he won. I thought I won, dude. You don't even realize it anymore. No, because, you know, I'm an adult, man, you know? uh anyways take care take good care see you all later on friday 10 a m Friday 10 a m 10 a m 10 a m fly fly fly fly fly fly