Green Light with Chris Long - Paige Spiranac Talks Golf & Quarantine Life. The Last Dance Quarantine Housemate Draft.
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Happy Friday, Chris Long, Greenlight Pod.
You are a loyal listener, and I appreciate you.
I hope everybody in the world has a great weekend.
I just hope your weekend's just a little bit better than theirs.
Just quite frankly, at least 10% better.
You guys deserve it.
You helped us get to a million this week.
Appreciate you.
Keep it going.
Start your weekend now.
You deserve it.
Get it going.
I don't mean like go to the bar.
Get drunk at home as you've been doing the last two months.
And kick up your feet.
Listen to a pack pod featuring Page Sparonic.
Talking about this weekend.
Also, we're going to be drafting characters from the last dance.
And the caveat here is on your starting five, you have to spend quarantine in a house with said characters.
So that'll be fun.
Let's get it rolling.
Get it going.
We also have golf this weekend.
Sports are starting to creep back into our consciousness right on time.
Last dance is over.
We've got some last dance for you on this pod.
We're going to draft characters from the last dance.
And that can be players, that can be coaches, that can be fans, that can be any cameo.
We're going to draft a starting five, and we're going to draft a six man.
And I am bringing my co-host making Gunner along with me.
He'll be joining us in a second, as well as an old friend of the program.
For those of y'all who are familiar with the early iterations of this pod, my high school baseball coach, the great wookie, coach McGrain.
He's going to join us as well.
He watched these shit out of this documentary.
He wouldn't stop texting me about it.
He's got a super big brain, and he's great for stuff like this.
So we're going to bring him in.
We're going to draft our teams up.
And we had some golf last week.
We've got golf coming up this week.
I've got paid sporadic to Sunday with the Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson, Peyton Manning,
Tom Brady mashup going on in the golf world.
I'll talk to her about that as well as what it's like being an influencer in the golf world right now.
She has millions of followers on Instagram, and I worked with her a little bit at the espies.
She's funny.
She's engaging.
And she's really honest.
She does talk about a lot of hard-hitting stuff when it comes to women in golf and being progressive in the sport.
So we'll get her on.
I was a rattlesnake when I woke up this morning.
I've calmed down a lot.
You know, I'm a little bit less thorny.
And it should be a good pod.
So enjoy listening and let's get Makin' on from across town.
My brother from another, making Gunner, he's in the building across the airwaves.
He's got a new puppy.
So what's going on with the puppy?
Give me an update.
Just a basic quarantine decision.
Next thing you know, I'll have a peloton in the domicile.
You get a puppy.
That's what you do when you don't know what else to do.
I grew up with three dogs in holy Toledo.
see long shouts out to meridith gunter because i thought i had a role in raising those dogs i i did not um day one
you're excited uh day three we were in tears and um now day i don't know 12ish we've turned the corner
many more wins than losses uh we're having full eliminations in the backyard we're having play time
in the living room. We're taking walks around the park. We've gotten our shots, et cetera.
What's the dog look like? She's a red lab. Now, normally you hear lab, you think yellow,
you think chocolate, you think black. She's red, unique, okay? And her name is Zoe,
a.k.a. Zozo Rabbit, aka Lady Alonzo. She is a very good dog. But, bro, day three,
I'm not kidding about the tears.
It was sleep deprivation.
It was, oh, my God, is this dog unhappy?
And we've given it a bad life.
And oh, no, we humans are unhappy.
And the dog is going to be with us for another decade.
What have we done?
That quickly subsided.
And we're in a routine now.
And I can say without a shadow of a doubt,
raising a pup is worse, harder than raising a child.
I have none, as you know.
At least those first 72 hours, bro.
But we're on easy street for the next part.
Well, I know I explain this to you.
As somebody who's owned multiple dogs and has multiple children,
I have to break this to you that kids are tougher than dogs by a power of like two or three.
My counter is diapers, okay, because my dog has used my house as a toilet, okay?
Your house is a big diaper.
You can throw, you can throw diapers on a kid, and the kid's not trying to ruin your furniture.
False. False. Luke doesn't care about our nice furniture that we just got.
I mean, like Luke, Luke wants to climb everything, break everything, hit everything.
And, you know, the other thing is the dog is never going to learn to talk and reason.
I mean, you know, dogs are fairly simple once you get down to it and you train them.
Kids, they think they have, like, rights and stuff.
Okay.
That's fair.
Yeah, at some points, I would like to hear from Zoe, is it a pee that you're crying about?
Is it a poop?
Is it boredom?
Are you thirsty?
give me something and it's a guessing game but actually you're right i think we now at now at day 10
fewer things are getting lost in translation between the humans and the dog and uh we're very
happy to have her well that's good i just uh before we move on to the main event i do want to say this
about dogs before we get on the draft i mean i know you've been very good about social distancing
in fact maybe better than me and i've been like an all-star um you know your dog came from somewhere
Like you touched the dog.
Did you leave the dog outside on the porch for 24 hours?
Like you do packages or did you take the dog in the house immediately?
Because I would argue that you broke the code of social distancing.
I was looked at like I had seven heads when I walked in with a mask on.
The dog people, as I think they are called in that world, were like, what is what?
What's going on?
Like I caught.
I was on the receiving end of attitude for, and I quickly took the gloves off.
I was masked.
I was gloved.
And they were taking offense.
And so I slipped the gloves off, relied on the Purell when I got back into the vehicle.
But yeah, I tried my best.
But in that dog world, it's free and easy.
People are, and they seemed healthy.
They seemed well.
The dog has not exhibited.
Any symptoms of COVID, although a tiger did get COVID at a zoo in the United States about a month or two ago in the heart of the Tiger King territory.
I guess one last question on the dog.
Is a dog a surface technically?
No.
Could a dog's fur share spread COVID?
I mean, I've I've read stories.
Who knows if they're true or not that animals, I think even a dog has tested positive.
I mean, are they swabbing dogs nostrils when they seem a little off?
I don't know.
I think we're going to need to swab your dog's nostrils.
I think we're not going to need to do that.
But if you want to take her between the hours of, say, 12 a.m. and 6 a.m.
Any night in the near future, be my guest.
Okay.
Well, that's going to mean I'm probably hammered.
You go with that?
Hey, as long as you take her out.
Okay, because if I'm awake between 12 and 6, I'm hammered or I'm playing Xbox.
and maybe she can sit on the couch with me and watch we play Call of Duty.
Let's get our boy McRane on the line and get this draft, Tom it.
So we are welcoming a friend of the program who has been holed up in his home, just like us.
Right down the road, you remember him if you are a ground floor green light pod fan.
Coach Wookie.
Wookie, how are we doing?
I'm outstanding.
I'm quarantined up.
I'm ready for my draft picks.
I've got my big board going.
I'm excited.
This is good.
This is good.
So the way we're going to do this thing is we are going to go snake draft.
And since I'm just so unselfish and gracious, as a podcast host, I'll go last the first round.
But that means I get the first pick of the second round.
We'll go Wookie first, making second, and then third I will bring it home.
So the rules are, again,
that it could be anybody on the last dance documentary.
I'm catching shit for saying documentary, the series, the last dance.
People need to chill out, man.
It was what it was, and it was awesome.
Call it whatever you like.
And I think we're going to have some fun with this, fellas.
I agree.
Now I'm hyped.
I, hey, and also we found out today that Tom Brady will probably have one in 2021.
I'm all for all of it.
I don't care.
You know, some people are like, oh, no.
I'm like, well, if you don't like it, just don't watch it.
There's going to be a lot of people who are going to be glued to the TV watching Tom Brady.
I don't think Tom Brady is going to be as gritty or as raw.
But from a different standpoint, you know how we didn't see Michael in this way for decades?
we hadn't seen Brady like do,
Brady was like on the left coast show
within a month of leaving New England
and we saw more of them than we did
the entire 20 year period.
He was in New England.
So I think it'll be a good thing whenever it comes out.
I hope I don't make it in a bad way.
Look, America loves winners and people will watch winners.
He's definitely a winner.
Yeah, I say he's winning at most things in life.
So we'll draft.
In 2021, we'll draft,
well draft characters from that series.
But let's start now.
Wookie, you have the first pick in the last dance quarantine draft.
Who is spending the time?
And again, I just want to say this one more time.
It's a house.
It's a big house.
It's got a pool.
It's got a nice backyard.
You have the amenities you need.
It's not Tom Brady's house.
It's a house.
You're not going to be right on top of each other.
It's not an apartment complex.
And the rules are this is early quarantine.
You can't leave.
You can Amazon Prime stuff.
You can get, you know, prime grocery delivery, whatever.
If you're not in Amazon, you can do something else entirely,
but you're going to have what you need.
Ready roll.
My first number one draft pick, Carmen Elektra.
You did it.
I had to.
That is the best pick I could make.
Okay.
Entertainment for an entire quarantine.
We all have lovely wives here, and I actually took her off the board.
I didn't.
Do you think your lovely wife is going to be okay with that?
You're lucky you're your podcasting from the room above your garage.
I'm going to have to be on the show again soon and tell her that that's what I was filming, not this one.
How are you going to explain that to your lovely wife when you walk downstairs and say,
I just drafted Carmen Electra number one?
Now, Carmen Electra in 2020 or Carmen Electra in the 90s?
The documentary of her, that was 2020, wasn't it?
it? The interviews currently, yes.
She still had her fastball.
Like 2020, Carmen Electric? I don't see a difference. What about you make?
Yeah, 48 years old was married to Rodman, married to Rodman in 9899, then Dave Navarro.
I think we remember some sort of reality show.
Yeah.
Yeah. She doesn't look bad at 48.
So what's the point here? Are you, I mean, like, are we?
saying that she's going to keep you company because I don't know that you're her type.
You said the house would have a pool.
I did say the house would have a pool.
Therefore, my first pick was justified.
Okay.
Okay.
I got something for you.
I got a better value pick in late rounds here.
Okay.
I'm happy with pick one.
Yeah, good pick, Wookie.
The guy I really want or gal, I am going to hope is going to be there at five.
I think he will be again or she.
At number two, I am taking the Zen master Phil Jackson.
Now, on the surface, that might seem to be a milk toast pick.
It is not.
Lo contraire, Phil Jackson, born in Deer Lodge, Montana, he's got that Zen energy.
He's got that big sky energy.
I think I would be thrilled to come down in the morning to a big cup of Joe made by Big Phil Jackson and be regaled by stories.
Morning, noon, and night.
I think he's a super cool guy and the sort of guy who would not get on your nerves in a quarantine setting.
And I bet he makes the coffee with some cool French press, you know, Nepalese machine or something.
and I bet it's freaking amazing coffee.
Oh, yeah.
You know what?
It can't be normal coffee.
It would really disappoint me if Phil Jackson drinks standard coffee.
Like if he rolls up to Dunkin' Donuts,
he definitely is doing like some bulletproof coffee type thing.
Nick Foles used to do some bulletproof coffee type thing
where you don't eat all day.
You do the bulletproof coffee.
I don't get it at all.
But it sounds cool.
I'm sure Phil does something like that.
With Phil, the fire pit outside just got.
like a different level got unlocked.
I mean, they talked about him doing acid.
You know, there's no concerts to go to, but we can make it work.
We can hit the campfire.
And he would be doing yoga and shit like that.
He could probably enlighten you in a lot of different biggest yoga mat in the history of yoga mats.
But I think Phil would be killer.
He was on my big board.
That's a great choice.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Did you notice he was getting a bit of the.
the Howie Long voice in the documentary.
Did he sound like Howie Long?
A little bit.
He got a little gravel to his voice, a little elder statesman.
Speaking of voices, and I'm confident bringing him up because I doubt he's on anybody's
big board, but Scotty Pippen and Cleveland from Family Guy, never heard them talk in the
same room.
And in fact, if Scotty lived with you, not only would it be a disaster, I think he'd be
totally unwilling to do household chores and chip in.
He'd be like, hey, Scottie take the trash out, and he'd just go to his room.
But you'd be upstairs like, it'd be 2 a.m.
You'd be like, what the fuck does somebody have family guy on downstairs for?
It's just Scotty FaceTiming.
I mean, yeah.
And by the way, another aside on Phil Jackson, I've mentioned this before, but you know,
I go to Montana every summer.
He's from Montana.
That's not far from where we are in northwest Montana where he did those interviews.
He would roll up to the Hoop Fest, which is a bunch of, it's a three-on-three tournament
from like every Pacific Northwestern white dude or Native American dude who can dunk
and has like random basketball skills.
And Phil would just come up there and post up and chill.
So yeah, I like Phil Jackson.
That's a great pick, mate.
I appreciate you.
You're on the clock with three and four.
A lot of the guys on my big board are not like traditional top picks.
Now, I'm going to knock it out of the park with this one because I have one guy who I think
would be a first-day pick, and that's Charles Barkley.
first off we know chuck make you know you me chuck we got slammed after the uh you know not to will bond here but we know chuck
we got slammed with chuck after the virginia cavaliers won the national championship by the way reigning champs
dynasty here if covid goes another year repeat uh we'll be doing a last dance style documentary on the virginia cavaliers
in their uh three-year run of uncontested championships but he was awesome he was awesome he was
was down to earth. I met him twice now. He's just like you think he'd be. And I thought he came
out of a documentary like in a really good light. I know him and Jordan don't get along as much
anymore since he criticized Jordan's front office stuff. That's a reflection of Jordan, not Charles.
I think he's one of the coolest dudes here. And by the way, don't pick Jordan. Jordan's not allowed
to be picked. We get that. Is that understood? Yeah. It was not understood. Barkley was high on my board.
are you talking about a guy who's not going to judge you
when you want to go to the snack pantry and raid some chips
and just pig out in your quarantine?
He'll be like, bring me some too.
Chuck will be standing right there with me
just feeling that cool air emanate out of the refrigerator,
just staring at the fridge at midnight
like I've done every night of quarantine,
imagining that there might be some new snack popping up.
Like I've stood in the pantry every day,
just waiting for a new snack.
And Chuck would be right there with me.
I'm all about it.
MJ was on my big board, but far down my big board.
I don't think he'd be a top quarantine pick.
I think he's a fascinating subject.
I don't know if he's the best hang, but we can take him off.
That's fine, but I mean, good pick with Sir Charles.
Okay.
And now, you know, snake draft, I'm back up, round two, pick one.
I've got, now this is going to be,
He's probably coming off the board a little bit early for some of you guys,
but I'm going to go with John Sally.
Wow.
Listen, you got to laugh, okay?
This is a trying time.
John Sally has a background in comedy.
I met him at an SB's party, and I was slammed.
I think he was pretty slammed, and he was funny.
He was just a guy you pick up a conversation with,
and you feel like you know him.
I feel like you could use that energy around the house right now.
Also, he's like this big vegan activist,
and if he has no problem with the fact that I just crush chickens,
and by the way, McGrain, this is a chance for you to get your chicken coop plug in.
Oh, yeah.
The zombie apocalypse has hit, and all of a sudden, me and my chickens are in good shape.
So all you folks that are quarantining, I give you eggs any day,
but if you're out there being dumb, you don't get my eggs.
You don't get my zombie apocalypse.
Now, with no background, that sounds kind of funny.
Like, you're, you don't get my eggs.
You don't get my eggs.
I don't think everybody remembers the last episode, like 58 episodes ago, where you
outlined what's going on in your backyard.
So why don't you leave with that?
Oh, was that when I was talking about motivating my chickens?
Yeah, tell us about that real quick.
Oh, so I've got five chickens, five or six chickens, depends on when the fox comes and nabs them.
But, you know, they usually lay an egg a day.
Six eggs a day takes care of my family and I can give some to friends.
But they went through a bit of a phase where they weren't laying eggs every day.
So in true kind of Phil Jackson, like, motivational,
I went out and barbecued chicken on the grill right in front of them
to let them know what was going to happen if they didn't pick up a date.
That sounds more like Michael Jordan.
Yes.
Egg production picked up.
I bet it did.
And by the way, do you have like a tiny family?
six eggs a day will do it for your
family? Not everyone eats eggs.
I don't eat eggs, by the way.
Eggs make me feel really bad.
Yeah, so only three of the
six people in this house eat eggs.
So Sally's a vegan.
If he has no problem, he's not one of those
judgmental vegans, although by the way, he appeared
in a PETA ad, I found out, which is
a red flag. But
he seems really cool.
And vegans have good food.
Like, they really do. I don't eat
a ton of meat. I could go with
like a 70-30 vegan diet. I know you got to be all in or whatever. Also, he is a member of the
Omega Sci-Fi fraternity, Q-dog. I've never met a Q-dog. I did not like, give me John
Sally and give me him second pick for the Chris Long Quarantine team. Okay, fifth overall, I told you
that. I had somebody I was targeting earlier. He is still on the board. I'm very excited to
take Barack Obama.
Damn!
Along the lines of a good storyteller like Phil Jackson,
Obama has him.
He had perhaps the glowiest glow-up of the entire dock going from former Chicago resident
to former president of the United States as his Kiron, if you will, Ceylon.
I think we're going to have a hoop outside the quarantine house.
He's a Hooper, he's a Southpaw, he's got a cool autograph.
He was, as mentioned, president of the United States and can join Phil around the campfire
and telling stories.
I like it.
I feel like you're picking, I feel like you've created yourself your own little Jeffersonian,
well-learned, academic kind of house so far, Megan.
We like what we're building.
A lot of mental stimulation there, and I love the fact that you got a U.S. president in the
second round. McRane, you're up.
So, Brock, that's done a little bit.
All right, so going in the spirit of, we're stuck in this house, now I've got somebody
to look at, now I need somebody who's just going to be able to roll with all the punches,
never lose their temper, just be easy to be around, got some talent.
I think my second round pick is Scotty Burrell.
Scottie Burrell, that's great.
And you got the baseball connection.
Did you know he played minor league baseball?
I did not.
I'm just feeling the mojo.
I had no idea.
It's a match made in heaven.
But, I mean, with all the shit that he put up with,
just the non-sci...
Hey, Scotty, Burrell, Scotty.
You say, ho, ho, ho, ho.
If he can put up with...
The guy has PTSD at Christmas
would be, you know, people around.
He's like, ho, ho, ho.
It's like, Michael.
Like, no, I really think him and Mike got along, honestly.
I do, too.
But I'm just saying,
And if he can put up with that for that long, he can do a quarantine easy without losing his mind.
Oh, he'll be super easy to quarantine with.
I think Scottie Borell would probably be super cool.
And the baseball thing, baseball guys are usually pretty good hangs.
They're different.
Like bullpen humor.
You know, you can sit around and just make jokes.
Yes, exactly.
I like that pick a lot.
Scotty Borell.
That's great.
Okay.
Poo.
I have Chuck, Sir Charles, and John Sally.
It's going to be a funny fucking time.
Now I've got to have somebody
It's not your pick
It's Wookie still
Oh yeah it is
This was just a preview
Okay so now I'm terrible
Let's take drafts
Okay McGrane you're up
And now I'm going with a pure
Beer Drinking buddy pick
And I'm taking Bill Winnington
It's a great pick
I like it
Guy had a fucking slot machine
In his background
He had like a slot machine
At his house
I'm pretty sure
He's a Long Island guy
But I think he knows
Bikers which could be good and bad
I just, I felt like he was like, yeah, so Michael was like this and Michael was like that,
but he got us three rings.
Like, he kind of, he was like, it was what it was, it made us better, I'm good, look at me,
I'm comfortable.
He seemed like he was drinking a beer the entire time on that show.
He did not seem uncomfortable.
And one of the funniest lines, the whole thing was like, hey, Bill, jump on this cape,
but hold on, you know, when MJ came back.
And, and like I said, he seemed like a guy that at least at the very least knows bikers and
probably can quote get you what you need.
I don't know what you need,
but I think Bill knows people
that can get you what you need.
Yeah, I don't think I have a home intruder problem
with Bill Winnington.
Yeah, I feel like if you want to put somebody
at the outpost outside that can't like come in the house,
there are some candidates who are not on my big board
like Tony Koo coach.
I'll just play that card now.
He's not on my board.
But when you roll up to my gate,
and I don't have a gate,
put in it you know i'm imagining we have a gate and can i help you in like eastern block like
that's intimidating like in the guys with an all black zip up yeah the guy that every guy that
leom nison killed is tony cooge and yes like that's the guy that i don't want to to have to
tussle with carl malone not on my big board at all would never want to live with carl malone
Carl Malone
First off, he would be totally rogue.
He would go rogue.
He'd leave on his Harley.
Day two. He'd be like, y'all suck. I'm out.
No, he would be headed to like some CrossFit gym to protest the virus for sure.
He'd be putting like, you know, don't tread on me flags up in his window.
I'd be like, Carl, Carl, this is everybody's house.
You don't get to just make fucking political statements here.
You know, there's other people in the house.
I think if you seen the lighthouse yet, for the listeners who haven't seen the lighthouse,
I think he's got some Wilm Defoe, like vibes, like, where you're just not sure what you're
going to get day to day with Carl Malone.
He'd be outside, you'd be like, he'd be chopping wood and shit.
You'd be like, Carl, we have a gas fireplace.
He's like, I don't go fuck it out here and cut this wood up.
That's Carl Malone to me, and you put him outside the house to defend it.
All righty, quarantine motions can run high.
You can be stressed out.
You can be panicky, et cetera.
I'm going with a calming presence,
underrated stars of the documentary, I think.
Welcome to the house, Mrs. Dolores Jordan.
Wow.
I think she would, good gravy.
78-year-old woman looked 38.
38.
Kept all of Michael's letters.
Just a sweet woman.
Yeah.
seemed to be a very good mother to MJ, very supportive, and yet kept him on track, made him earn everything, some tough love in there.
I thought she shined in the dock, and I can't wait to have her in the house with, you know, Phil might be keeping late hours.
I can see Dolores coming outside and saying, all right, third more minutes only.
around the camfire.
Mrs. Jordan's on
my quarantine team.
I bet she'd make you fresh, warm, hot,
like chocolate chip cookies.
Hell yeah.
And is it worth, though, I'd ask,
being on Michael Jordan's list
because I think you just made Michael Jordan's list
for enlisting his mother
to live with you in quarantine.
Oh, boy.
I mean,
let the Twitter fire begin.
Nah, nah, nah, nah, I'm not, no.
I'm not with that list
where I'm housing.
his mother. We're taking care in this team making quarantine Cliff Kingsbury domiciled setting.
Are you saying his mom didn't have a nice enough house?
All right.
All right.
You're up to take nine.
You like Michael Jordan's mom's house?
You're up.
Okay.
So so far, I have, let's, yeah, I've got, I've got, sure, Charles and I got John Sally.
He's going to be a lot of laughter.
We need, we need a guy that can.
bring the laughter fuel if you know what I mean. I need somebody eventually that can that can get me
some good weed in this house and I'm not sure that I have the guy yet uh with Charles or John Sally but
third pick for me I'm going to go Bill Cartwright good pick paternal okay under this under this
situation yeah I have two children I don't know where they go in this hypothetical but you know my
kids need a grandparent type figure and I think part right he was the only guy that could could steer
the ship when scotty went awall he has this very you know granddad type voice he's a dude i would
love to sit on the porch with and drink beer and just listen to the stories he seems like a good
dude he's coached he's got a lifetime of experience and yeah he's the grandfather we need that so
bill cartwright give me the stability with three i remember cartwright waiting for
for Scotty Pippen after the game where Scottie sat himself down.
Yep.
Looking up, how about that Chicago Stadium when they had to run up those stairs onto the court?
Kind of a cool feature.
Yeah.
Old school, dilapidated building there at the end.
But that was a nice little entrance for the fellows.
But yeah, I remember that's my image of Cartwright.
My lasting image is his gazing up, waiting for his guy, Pip to hold the squad together.
I think that's a fine pick at nine.
See long.
Good value.
Good value.
Pick 10 is Chris after Cartwright.
Pick 10 is me following Cartwright.
We have two funny guys.
We have a guy that's going to keep things together.
I'm going to go with the desirables.
Come off the board quick in this show.
I'm going to go Steve Kerr.
Yeah, strong.
All Steve Kerr does is win.
My house is going to win.
Whatever the challenge is we're going to win.
We're going to win.
Let's not forget he was a member of the Spurs team that won.
I forget whether it was the 90 next year.
Yeah, it was.
You got four.
Yeah, it was the spurs team.
I mean, obviously you see what he did for Golden State.
He was obviously the whole thing at Golden State.
I mean, it's some decent players, but it's all steep.
He would do the same thing for our house.
He's going to, he's going to be the raises all tides.
What do they say?
A, a rising.
tied lifts all boats something with that statement rings true with Steve Kerr and along the nautical
theme I wrote a jet ski with Steve Kerr once in my life so we're already really cool we're really
tight me and Steve when I was a child I ended up on a jet ski with Steve Kerr same place flathead
Lake Montana Scott Skiles used to play pickup games in the backyard believe it or not scottie
skiles was back there just running game in my backyard I had no idea Steve Kerr came in one weekend
to hang out with. It was Frank Warkowski who also
made the dock, by the way. Frank Vakowski
cameo, cameo in the background
of a Milwaukee Bucks low light.
Jordan was dunking on some
four eight-foot white guy
in 1989.
Frank was in the background
palms up, but Steve Kerr came in the town,
he rode a jet ski.
Yeah, give me
Kerr at 10.
He came out of the documentary really strong, too.
Oh, he so did.
It was like, I got fed up, I punched
Jordan. Oh, that made the Jordan relationship good. Oh, I share this horrible, tragic
story about dads with Jordan. I think about him during the national anthem. That resonated
with me. I lost my grandfather in the middle of my second year at UVA playing baseball and
started to think of him during the national anthem. I mean, he's just like, he's relatable.
He's a very relatable guy. And I like how he's like, I'm just no overachiever.
Yeah, and my favorite part of Steve Kerr's whole appearance in the series was probably his speech
at the parade.
Yes.
His khaki shorts.
The white guy.
With this huge khaki-wide shorts.
You know, like, that walk-off that you do when you're a white guy and you do a good speech
at a predominantly black function, like, that's the way he walked off.
With his giant khakis that he could base jump off the side of L-Cap with those khakis
and survive.
Like, they would just catch the wind and he would land safely.
Steve Kurt, 10 for me.
My 11th pick is going to be the star of the series,
the late great John Michael Wozniak,
who famously hit Jordan with the Jordan Shrug
after winning that game of throwing quarters
against a carpet and a wall.
What the hell was that gambling game anyways?
Has it been explained?
I still can't figure out what the objective was to that game.
I feel like it was one of those things that you were supposed to watch it and, like, you're afraid to ask what it was.
Like, maybe gamblers know what that is.
Like, get the quarter closest to that mark on the carpet is what I figured, but I could be wrong.
Cop, so we're going to have some law and order in this quarantine house.
You mentioned Tony Kookech coming up to the gate.
I think Wozniak was packing 100% of the time in the series.
Chris, I know you tweeted about it.
That walk that he had next to Jordan during some slow-mo footage for about 10 seconds in one of the episodes was the coolest walk I've ever seen by a human being.
Yes.
He had swag.
He had the mustache that was turning into a handlebar.
He had the little flavor saver rocking, the hair, elite.
And in the quarantine house, when we have, you know, really big personalities like Bill Jackson and Barack Obama, I think John Michael Wozniak is going to be a nice role player.
Every crew needs a role player.
He's not going to need to be heard 100% of the time.
He's used to being a support guy.
And again, very sad that we lost this gentleman in January of this year.
His son, I think, came out and said he would have loved this.
He would have loved this attention.
Happy to add him to our roster at 11.
Yeah, it was the walk you're referring to was just terrific.
And I had a follower spinning into, like, put it through the belly filter.
If you ever watch Belly, there's an intro to that scene, to that movie with a walk-up in a nightclub.
And it just, it meshed perfectly.
So I think that's wonderful.
And I'm surprised he fell that far.
Yeah, I'll take it at 11.
And that means Wookie McGrane up at 12 and 13.
So I'm struggling with this one, but I think I'm going to stick to it.
I think I'm taking Amad Rashad with my fourth pick.
I feel like there's some storytelling that's going to have to take place during the quiet hours.
And if there's a guy who knows just as many, you know, the last dance, other stories that didn't
make the tape, it's Amad Rashad.
Whether it's golf gambling or other stories at dinners or cigar bars,
like I feel like there's a treasure trove of memories that would come out,
that would be entertaining if he was in my house.
Just to buy the time, tell me some stories about those days with Jordan Amman.
I think that's great value too at 12.
So good pick.
Did he come off to either you guys at times as a,
Jersey chaser. Right. So like Amad was a professional athlete himself and obviously
it had a good job with NBC calling these games, but it just seemed like, hey man, sometimes
there can be silence. There was that scene where George's just sitting there before a game and Amad's
like, some guys can do it, some can't. And Jordan was like, what? Yeah, that was the weird,
and some can. And then he asked him to them to say, some can. And Jordan's like,
Like, yeah.
Here's the thing.
I really like Ahmad Rashad.
He is a 10-year pro in the NFL, four-time pro bowler, Minnesota Vikings' ring of honor.
I mean, like, you almost forget about, you know, what you mentioned, which was an athletic background.
I think that's why he probably felt comfortable talking to Jordan and other guys like he was one of them.
Because he truly is deep down, but it did come across as funny if somebody's looking at it.
lens of, okay, this guy's just a media member.
Yeah. Yep.
I think it's a good pick still.
I also think it's hard to look good in that documentary, period, or that series.
So who you got at 13, McGrain?
Ann Kerr.
Nice.
Wow.
Steve Kerr's mother.
You guys are just, I mean, this is, I think Steve will probably be more amicable to this
selection than Mike will be about Dolores.
But she was awesome.
changed my pick when Macon took Jordan's mom. I changed my pick when
making took Jordan's mom and I started thinking about those warm chocolate chip
cookies. Yeah. And then I was like and then I started thinking here I am stuck in a
quarantine house. I mean look at the people I got already. Do you think like you know,
keeping it clean and tidy and smelling like you know downy fresh? Like we need a mom's
presence here in a big way. Right. You're damn right. So and the way that's
sweet lady on the couch talking.
I just, I think she, yeah.
So making influence my pick there, but I'm, I'm happy with that pick.
I think that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a,
that's a stabilizing pick for the house.
And that is a terrific segue into my fifth pick.
And I'm going with O.G. Karen, Pacer's mom, her cutoff collared shirt.
I thought she, she, she might have.
been kind of cute in the 90s. Let's just, let's just get that out there. Also, I thought she got a
bad rap on the internet. Like being an obnoxious fan does not mean, and living in Indiana does
not mean you have a clanhood in your, in your closet. But of course, Twitter, they know everything
about somebody after they see them for three seconds and people were crushing her. I'm excited
to welcome her to the house. She probably makes mean lunches. She probably Ziploc, bag them up
for everybody in the house.
And it's that maternal role.
That cut off collar thing that she got.
You know she's not letting anybody go outside the house without sunscreen.
Definitely not.
Definitely not.
My skin is going to be any...
Summertime's coming up here.
See, like, you jumped out of order there,
and I was happy that you did it because I was unsure who to take.
I think you just made a wonderful pick.
You gave me the time to do some research, and I have come up with my pick.
Among the people I am not taking, but considered, Roy Williams, Larry Bird, David Stern, Jalen Rose, Tito Francona, Pat Riley, who looked just fly.
He's the man.
And I'm going to take another guy with stories, Leonardo DiCaprio.
It's so cheap.
I almost took Leo before Ann Kerr, so I think that's a good pick.
Here's the problem with Leo.
He's going to be breaking quarantine on the regular.
There's going to be these models coming over left and right.
And you're going to be like, Leo, come on, we're trying to socially distance.
I don't think he can get away with anything with Dolores Jordan and the house.
I mean, it's Dolores's rules.
I am imagining a conversation between Dolores.
George and Leo. That's what we're going to have. I like the pick. I like the pick a lot.
I mean, you got a really good draft here. Thanks, man. I got Bill Jackson, Barack Obama,
Dolores Jordan, John Michael Wozniak, and Leonardo DiCaprio. Just kind of makes me laugh at that group.
McGrain has Carmen Electra, Scotty Barrell, Bill Winnington, Ahmad Rashad, and Ann Kerr. That also makes me
laugh and you're rocking sea long with sir charles barkley john sally bill cartwright steve ker and
pacer's lady you are going to be big mad when amad rashad is out by the pool talking to carman
and you're going to be like what the fuck was the point amad's eight years old and he's about to pull
carmen electra my first round pick on like an amad rashad luxury yeah well if if we had gotten a
sixth man pick, I would have gotten Spike Lee to film at all.
Spike Lee kind of exhausts me a little bit.
I'm a Knicks fan too, but I'm good on Spike Lee.
Were you ever close to taking Charles Oakley?
No, because I feel like we're going to be breaking up multiple fights in the house.
I was close.
I was close.
Who didn't?
Makin went through his picks that he didn't take.
What picks did you think about and decided not to?
And after we do this, we get a.
sixth man here, okay? But I've gone on a list, okay? Reggie Miller could be an issue. I really think
Reggie Miller is, no, I think Reggie Miller's stock went up for me as a Knicks fan in the 90
when he was on the Knicks, I thought of him as skinny, soft, annoying, all that stuff. It turned
out to be anything but the case. He was the one guy who was unafraid of Jordan, you know, unabashed,
unafraid. And Jordan seemed to respect him. But I think all that Black Jesus talk might be
confusing to my kids. I don't want my kids going back. We believe in a colorless Jesus in our house.
So we believe in a Jesus that was representative of the time and period. And I don't know what color
that person was. But Reggie is going to have my kids going back to school like, hey, teacher,
what's up with what color was Jesus? I don't think I don't think I want Reggie in the house.
I don't want magic in the house way too positive. Captain obvious. He's definitely going to be a loud
talker on the phone, Magic Johnson, just screaming on the phone.
Agreed.
John Stockton, too boring.
It would be fun for a couple days to be like, see how many times you could say the word
assist to him without him realizing that you're making a joke.
Hey, John, can you come down here and assist me with something?
Patrick Ewing would just fucking read the newspaper.
Yeah, but be so big that you run into his knees just trying to walk around the couch.
Oh, for sure.
But like he would just read it and look.
look at his newspaper and then look up when people came in the room and then look back down.
He would not talk to anybody.
So those are the guys that were close to.
Would you want Paxton in your room?
Or in your, would you want Paxton in your house?
No.
I don't feel strongly either way.
I feel like I am having a hard time with how he came across okay in the documentary,
but you got the whole Gar-Pax issue in Chicago.
Yeah.
And I just, I don't think that picked.
I don't think the fans would like that pick.
I think my shareholders and all my fans at quarantine house would boom me in the draft for that.
I agree.
I also think he'd be like a big lecture guy.
There's nothing, I don't know anything bad about him.
Maybe you do, but I mean, he seems like the dad who has like better morals than you.
Like he's very type A.
Like the beds need to be made.
Like, you know, very detail oriented.
And me not being so type A, I think that would be a problem.
way too positive.
All right, so let's rock.
Who are six men or women?
Whew.
You know, is this me now?
Because I got to make the last pick.
Go for it.
Okay.
It's going to come down to,
by the way,
it's definitely not Horace Grant.
Horace Grant would put everything
on like,
you know, his Instagram story
and you wouldn't know it.
And you'd be like, hey, Horace,
I'm taking a shit here.
And he'd be like,
oh,
Nothing. This video's not going anywhere.
And then it would go to Sam Smith or somebody like that or Skip Bayliss.
Horace would be in his feelings pretty quick in the quarantine.
How about Horace saying MJ was a snitch?
Here's my evidence.
He told us all about that hotel room thing.
You know, like, why would he tell you about all the Coke and weed and women in that room?
Jordan did not mention any of those things.
And Horace Grant in the article mentioned all three of those vices by name.
So definitely no Horace Grant.
It's coming down to BJ Armstrong and Ron Harper for me.
Now, BJ came out of this thing swimming, I think.
BJ would be a six pick for me.
I know I said Spike, but BGA would be a six pick.
I think that's a strong pick.
You should make it.
Well, I think I'm not going to make it.
Ron Harper is my six-man pick just off of one line.
That Craig Yelo sequence, just I've never identified more with a basketball player.
than like his energy in that.
Like he's just angry.
He's just like in a good way.
Like he's just,
he just doesn't seem to give a shit one of the guys.
And I gleaned all that from that sequence.
Ron Harper don't know much about him,
other than the fact that he did grow up in Dayton, McGrain.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What did he mumble off when he said,
Coach wanted Craig Yelo to guard him?
He said whatever fuck this bullshit.
And anybody can identify with that was the most relatable line
of the whole thing.
And didn't they cut to Jordan, who's like,
I don't know why they put him on me and not Ron Harper?
Yeah.
I felt like that, yeah.
So I'm going to take Ron Harper.
So that leaves you guys, one of you guys can fight over BJ Armstrong.
Macon's got the next pick.
I don't want to be too redundant.
Like, I want Phil to be the coach of the house.
I would like to have a Roy Williams or Pat Riley or a Terry Frank
Kona, but I'm not going to do it because Phil has that role on lock.
Thinking Hannah Storm, thinking B.J. Armstrong.
Yeah.
Because you guys made a nice case for the guy.
And I'm going to go with B.J. Armstrong is my pick.
He came out of the documentary great.
And they made it sound like he's the guy that got Jordan back.
Yeah, he did.
So I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing.
To my point earlier about Jordan seeming to like,
gravitate to yes men or like people that can help him you know if if he was just kind of but he also
went right at jordan in the charlotte series and then jordan like really didn't sink him jordan could
have been really personal and been a dick about it maybe it's because he won the series and bj's not a
threat as he would call it but he did like bj came out of this thing really good you know um so i i
think that's good he is an agent though oh really yeah big agreeable agreeable guy though if if we're in
quarantine, I'm not worried for one second about BJ Armstrong.
No, except he's twice your age and looks younger.
Yeah.
That is true.
Him and a mod, bro.
Yeah.
Okay, McGrain, your sixth man will wrap the thing up.
I think the house needs a coach.
I'm following what Makin's saying with Phil.
And I think I'm going Doug Collins for six.
Wow.
I think Doug is a great pick.
That's a sleeper.
I feel like he's got some fire.
He's got some crazy.
But he's got some simplicity too.
You know, like he was the guy that was like, I don't know,
just give the ball of Jordan, damn it.
Like, what else are we going to do?
So I feel like when decisions need to get made,
he's going to find the easy, most sensible decision.
And he had a perm.
Yeah, he doesn't have a perm anymore.
But he had one.
Which Doug Collins do I get?
Because I want the one with a perm.
I want the one with a perm, too.
So you get the one with a perm.
Okay.
Because the one now is like gray.
and he's got, you know, like, it's all shaved.
Doug Collins in the late 80s had to be, you know,
how people say you're a lot of fun at parties and they're sarcastic.
I think Doug Collins would be pretty fucking fun at parties.
I think so, too.
And the sweat and the lather that he'd get going when he would coach?
Yeah.
So we left some good, good guys and players.
Listen, we left Roy Williams on the board.
We left Gary Payton on the board.
We left.
Rodman didn't get picked up.
Okay, Rodman.
I was never going to pick him.
I can't have that kind of competition for Carmen's time.
Yeah, I think I'm pretty sure Carmen might be over that.
I think Carmen had her fix.
I don't need some, you know,
Love Island Paradise kind of isolation thing,
taking away my chances.
I think that,
I think that Rodman has descended quite a bit
since his 90s appearance physique,
or whatever you want to call it.
I think he is, in the last two decades,
it's been rough on him.
So that was a good draft, guys.
To recap here, Team Chris has Charles Barkley, Cartwright, Sally, Kerr, O.G. Karen.
And my sixth man is Ron Harper.
Macon had Phil Jackson, Chicago resident at two.
He had Mrs. Jordan at three, Wozniak at four, Leo at five.
Got Leonardo DiCaprio in the fifth.
By the way, we love Jerry Seinfeld out of this motherfucker.
Jerry Seinfeld's time has officially passed.
your six man was whom again making my point guard dj armstrong bj armstrong and now mcgrine with the
pick of the draft carmante lector in the first scotty bro and second bill wendington and the third um and then
who did you have in the fourth you had you had maud rashad ahad you rounded it out with and kerr and then
your sixth man uh 80s doug collins 80s dug collins perfect so that's a good draft right there fellows
Without further ado, let's take a hard right turn and get to Page Spironic, an Instagram sensation,
and the host of a really good podcast from what I hear.
Let's get her on.
Welcome now to the Greenlight Pod, the best golfer I've ever had on the show,
and that's fitting because we don't talk golf a lot.
Paige Spironic, who I met at the SB.
She's currently an ambassador for the Cyber Smile Foundation.
She also has a great podcast from what I hear in golf circles playing around with Paige Renee
podcast.
The first episode was this February.
How's that going, Paige?
How's the podcast life treating you?
First off, thanks for having me.
And it's been crazy.
I didn't know what to expect.
I honestly thought no one was going to be interested in it.
One, it's a girl talking about sports and two, it's the girl talking about golf.
So there's already so many like golf podcasts out there.
But we try to make it different, come at it at different angles.
And I think people are enjoying it so far.
We just basically make fun of people in golf 24-7.
So I kind of love it.
You run into any like older folks out in Scottsdale that are like,
oh, I listen to the pod and you're like shocked?
Yeah, it's funny because we, I remember we talked about this at the Espies where I, in my
DMs, I get a lot of inappropriate pictures.
And so I've talked about that on my podcast.
Now I'm just getting dick picks from like older men now, which is not good.
We don't want that.
Is it my duty to ask you to describe any of them or is it my duty to move on to the next subject?
I got on this morning and it was like an older guy.
I think he was probably in his 60s and he's like, I've listened to the podcast and I know
the only way to get to your attention is to, you know, send a dick pick.
And so it's like him with this towel like draped over him.
And it's like kind of half over his dick and his balls are just out.
And I'm like, I can't do this.
So it was my fault.
I should have never talked about it on the podcast.
But now that's the thing.
I just get, you know, even more now.
Okay.
So DMs, you know, and all that gross stuff, like 8-year-old tripled up men in
bathhouses sending foggy selfies to your talk.
Like, let's get past that.
Let's move on to the main event, which is golf.
And it's back, okay?
So like last week, and by the way, my listeners know, I don't know shit about golf.
Like I do, you're the expert.
I'm going to ask you last week, what happened?
With the Taylor Made match?
Yeah, what was that whole thing?
So it was a charity event to raise money for COVID relief.
And they ended up raising $5.5 million.
It was team tailor made.
So it was Rory and DJ against Ricky and a new up-and-coming star, Matt Wool.
And mixed reviews on it.
Some people said that it was great.
Like they raised a lot of money.
It was a success.
But on the other side, it was a, it was boring.
Like the trash talk was bad.
The commentators were talking over the players.
Like one cool thing about it was that they were going to be miced up and you'd get to
hear them talking.
And then the commentators were just talking over the players and you could never hear
anything.
And it just felt stale.
Like every time golf,
seems to do these matches.
We build it up.
We think it's going to be great.
It's going to be great for golf.
And then it's just kind of the same old thing over and over again.
So it was great because Live Golf was back.
We were all really excited.
But in my opinion, I think it was a miss.
So now for the next match coming up,
which is the Tiger Phil, Tom Brady and Payne Manning match,
we're hoping that it will be a little bit better than last week's match.
If you were to rank sports and their possibility,
to thrive within a COVID-like situation.
I think golf would be at the top.
I mean, do you need fans?
Not to minimize fans,
but I don't feel like you need golf fans
to be in the gallery to make it watchable.
No, definitely not.
I think it kind of throws it back to
that's the game that we play.
And that's what was kind of cool
about the Taylor made match
is that the guys were carrying their bags.
You know, it was just like four guys out there
having a great time.
And I think a lot of golfers can relate to that,
which is really great.
But again, they just seem to always,
miss it in some way or another. And I feel like everyone's been watching the last dance and
they're craving that kind of authenticity and that raw realness. And with golf, it always seems
so fake. And it's always put out in this perfect little package box and they're like,
here, this is golf. And we never seem to reach new audiences because it's just the same thing
over and over again. We never try to appeal to a larger audience. Do you think, and you've,
you've touched on this before, I read where you touched on this was, you know, like the future of
golf. You're looking at the future of golf without Tiger at some point. He's going to be doing
things like this the rest of his life. But I mean, as a main event type attraction, and you talked
about the demos, like attracting new fan bases, where are they missing the mark on that? And how
can they improve that? Is it just a matter of buttoning it down a little bit?
It's really hard to say because there's so many factors that go into why golf isn't growing.
I think when you go out to a PGA tour event and you look around, everyone looks the same.
There's no diversity in the crowd.
So they're missing hitting that larger audience, like I said before.
And I don't know if it's because the players don't appeal to other people.
I don't know if it's because golf is elitist and because they think it's stuffy,
so they have no interest in watching it because they don't think they're going to play it.
Golf is also very expensive.
so there's so many things that go into it.
I mean, we spend so many hours trying to discuss, like, how can we make it better?
How can we make it different?
I think players utilizing social media and having these matches and showing them, showing
the larger audience that they are, like, real people, not these, you know, like, stuffy country club kids.
And I think that's why Tyre coming in had made such an impact on the game because he was different.
He brought some diversity into golf.
And he was cool.
He was the first person who was really.
really cool and like other people wanted to be tiger they wanted to watch tiger he was athletic he was
strong he was charismatic and good looking and so he had that appeal to more people so i think we need
someone else to come up but i also think that more players need to kind of use social media show off
their personalities and just try to be more normal and real so you've got this the goat and the goat
comes from a demo that's very underrepresented in the golf world and that's been going on for 20 plus years
and to your point, there hasn't been a lot of advancement.
You've also said that pro golf is kind of a good old boy system
and women don't get equally represented.
How do you remedy that?
Like, where are they falling short?
Because there's some obvious things.
I mean, even somebody on the outside is like there's clubs where women can't play.
That's crazy.
Have they eradicated that type of thing completely?
And what do they have to do next as a kind of a leading voice in the media circle
when it comes to women and golf?
There needs to be a complete culture change.
golf and I don't know when that's going to happen. I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon
just because of the people in power at the top. People like golf because it's a way that guys can
just get away from their wives, five hours, they can drink with their buddies, hang out in the
clubhouse, play some cards. Like it's a perfect sport for guys and I don't think they want to
ruin that by bringing more people in. And part of me gets that, you know, it's kind of like
their sanctuary, their time to get away. But I've been to golf courses where guys have refused
to play with me because they think I'm going to be slow because I'm a woman. The dress codes are
so strict. Like you can't, you have to have like a collared shirt and skirts down past your knees.
And there are still men only golf courses. So there are certain golf courses that I can only play
like Tuesday and Thursday after three o'clock. The weird thing too is women aren't accepting of other
women in golf. So it's like if you try to do something a little bit different or if you try to be
a little more progressive, it's like, no, we don't want any part of you either. You've talked about
that kind of pushback. I mean, there's no doubt about it. Like you have changed kind of the way,
you know, people expect a golfer to dress. I mean, like, you, you've talked about it's what
I'm comfortable playing golf in. It's not to make a statement. It's not to get attention. This is what I
feel athletic in. Like, what's the problem there? And do you get a lot of that pushback from women and
how this, it's going to be disheartening? Because you're, you're, you're, you're,
fighting two battles.
100%.
I think people will look at my Instagram and definitely I will play it up on there because
it is what it is.
But when I'm going to play, I'm wearing leggings and a Lulu Lemon tank top.
You know, I'm wearing athletic wear that when you go to the gym, I'm actually dressed
quite conservatively.
But you go to the golf course and people are like, get that hooker off the golf course.
So she looks like a stripper.
Like people would have come up to me like, are you a porn star?
And I'm like, I'm not wearing a collar.
That's it.
How about this weekend?
Okay, we've got one of my former teammates, Tom Brady,
pairing with Phil Nicholson.
You have Tiger Woods and Peyton Manning.
All right.
So is it a skins game?
I have to look at the format again,
but I know the second half of it,
they're doing an alternate shot,
which will be really interesting to watch.
And I think like a modified best ball.
So I've actually never seen Tom Brady or Payton Manning play.
So I am excited to watch their games
and see what they're going to do.
It'll be a good match.
I think it's going to be interesting.
I just hope it's not the same cheesy golf match that we've grown to expect.
What's the difference between like a regular course and like a pro course?
You know, like I live near a golf course.
I go down the street.
I can see one.
It looks hard.
I don't know what the hell of the difference.
I don't know what makes a pro course a pro course.
Yeah.
So you can basically turn any golf course could be a private golf course, public golf course,
into a tournament golf course.
Basically, what you do is you narrow the fairways.
You grow the rough.
You make the greens harder and faster.
And then you put the pins in difficult locations.
So I always laugh because guys will, I'll see them commenting like,
oh, I shot at 72 at Torrey Pines.
I could definitely play on tour.
And I'm like, no, no, no.
Like the courses that you play are completely different
than the courses that the guys play on tour.
Like the greens are not really.
responsive at all. They are lightning fast. And then if you miss a fairway, you almost can't even find
your golf ball sometimes because the rough is so thick. I remember I played Riviera for fun.
And on the first hole, fairway was wise as it could be. And then I came back for the PJ tour event.
And it was, it looked like 15 yards wide from the from the T-box. And so it's a completely different
golf course, what they do. And I would say that if you are shooting consistently even par, par, and you go play
a tournament golf course set up pretty difficult, you probably won't break 85.
Everybody loves golf. It feels like all athletes and celebrities love it. You've played with
some really big names. You've probably helped some big names work on their swing.
Who are the biggest celebrity golfers that you've played with?
Well, last year, I played in this Legends event. It was the Baspero Legends, and it was in Missouri.
And my group of the day was Gary Player, who was a legend in golf, Mark Wahlberg and Justin Timberlake.
So it was those guys and me.
And there was like so many fans around.
Everyone was just like, you know, talking to them and asking for pictures of autograph.
And I would just kind of like scoot on through.
And people are like, who is that?
Why is she here?
Mark or Justin, who's angrier when they hit a bad shot?
Oh, Walberg, for sure.
Yeah.
He just is like constantly like zoned in and he just walks really fast, plays really fast.
He's really intense.
And then Justin Lake's very like, relax, really cool.
He was my partner for the day.
So it was a partner event.
And he was like the best partner.
So much fun.
But no, I played with a lot of athletes.
I would say that hockey players or pitchers are the best golfers.
Who's the best golfer you played with that was an athlete out of all those like pitchers and hockey players?
Drew Breeze beat me in a closest to the pin contest at Top Golf.
So he was pretty good.
Yeah.
So, I mean, there's a ton of really good players out there.
Like, they're all pretty decent.
Reggie Bush is actually really good, too.
He gets a little mad sometimes.
But he is, like, so focused and dedicated to golf.
Like, he practices all the time.
But he has a really good swing.
So I think he's only been playing for, I think, like, two or three years.
So he's going to turn out to be a really good golfer.
Okay, I want to hit you with some quick hitters before we get out of here.
And again, on, on Sunday, tell us what's going on.
I'll be joining you on Sunday.
We're going to do a live watch, huh?
You're doing it, and you're going to have some people popping on?
Yeah, so we're going to do a watch party for the match.
We'll be recording the podcast.
You're going to be joining us.
We have some other really great guests, too.
So it's going to be a lot of fun.
It's my first time doing something like this.
So I'm a bit nervous.
Doing it live is kind of nerve-wracking.
So we'll see how it goes.
But it'll be good to kind of commentate on what's happening during the match.
And so people can watch the match and watch us at the same time.
All right.
It's hard because I did a couple live things.
And like just the tense moment where you're seeing if your electronics work is just like the internet, things like that.
If you're lagging, if you can't get a guest on, it just, it'll go great.
I promise.
All these things I listed, don't think about them.
But again, Sunday, live watch, Tiger, Peyton, Phil, Tom, ticket.
It's $599, and a portion of the proceeds will be donated to projectgolf.org.
Is that correct? That's correct.
That's correct.
Yeah, it's an initiative to grow the game of golf and make golf accessible to more people.
So exactly what we were talking about is bringing more people in, and they're doing a lot of great work there.
Let's do a quick hitter, and then I want you to pump your awesome work you do trying to eradicate cyberbullying.
Okay, my quick hitter is here.
Best dress golfers.
I think all the Nike athletes look pretty good.
DJ always looks good.
The problem is they always wear the same stuff.
So it's kind of who looks better in it.
I think Brooks always looks pretty good.
I like things that are clean and simple
with just like a little bit of flare.
Your dream course.
Where would it be?
How would you design it?
You have an endless budget
and you can snap your fingers and make it happen.
I'd probably do it somewhere on the East Coast
so I can make it a tree-lined golf course.
more traditional. I would do either like three, three, three or like rounds of six instead of the
traditional nine and nine. And so that way people could have the option of playing three holes,
six holes, nine holes, whatever it is and kind of mix them up. I definitely would want to also put
like the bigger holes on the golf course. So you have the option of both. So you can get like younger
kids into it. And no dress code at all. Eliminate dress code all together. And everyone is welcome.
I'll be an investor.
Okay, so golfing hungover or golfing drunk, which one's worse and why?
For me, golfing hungover is the worst possible thing in the entire world.
I have the absolute worst hangovers and I get really like jittery and nauseous and there's nothing worse than waking up in the morning and having to go play golf and you can't even like hold on to the club because you're shaking so much.
I'm playing drunk, you just kind of like, whatever.
Yeah, absolutely.
I'm sure some guys, I mean, guys do it all the time.
It's funny, you mention guys going on and getting drunk.
I got buddies who are like, I get a pass to go golfing all the time.
I'm like, so wait, if I just say I'm golfing, I can go to the bar effectively for six hours.
When I'm hungover, I get anxious.
And if there was a bunch of people watching me play, it would be in my head.
I just don't know how people do it.
So I would probably agree with you.
Do those guys, those pros, they get banged up the night before?
Does some of them, like, think, hey, like, I'm going to feel better if I take the edge?
and get banged up tonight?
100%.
I think most golfers think that they play better
or hungover or drunk or a little tipsy
because golf is so mental.
And so if you don't have that on your mind,
then you're going to play better
instead of being completely laser-focused
and you're like in your head about every little thing.
Like how about people in talking in back swings and stuff?
Like what's the worst situation you ever saw where a fan went overboard?
I see, I don't mind stuff like that
because I usually want to play with my friends.
and everyone's talking. I know it's worse when it's like dead silent and then someone says something.
But I think it's just kind of like the weird comments after you hit a bad shot. I remember I was playing
in the ACC tournament, which is that celebrity golf event. And I hit a shot and I didn't hit a great
shot and I was kind of upset about it. And this guy just yelled over and he's like, it's okay. You still
look good, even though you suck. And I was so pissed. I was so mad. I was like, why would you
say that to me and yell that to me? And he kept following me and every.
bad shot. He would never say anything for the good shots, but only for the bad shots. And he was trying
to, like, pump me up, but it was, like, the opposite. And I have a definite, like, temper issue on the
golf course. And so it was very, it was testing me that day to, like, stay calm. Okay, so last
question, coolest follower or person you met that, that you were like, holy shit, that person
knows who I am. Probably Justin Timberlake. Um, that he, he follows me and that was, like,
the coolest thing ever. But I have a bigger crush on his wife, Jessica Beal.
And I followed her and I was like, because I met her at the event soon.
I was like, maybe she'll give me the follow and she didn't.
So a little bit crushed.
I'll have to settle for Justin Timberlake by Jessica Beale's like my number one girl crush.
And so that one hurt a little bit.
Last thing, your ambassador work you do to fight cyberbullying, how did you get into that?
Yeah, so I'm an ambassador for cyber smile, which is an anti-bullying organization focusing on cyberbullying.
throughout my entire life, I've always dealt with bullying and especially now being on social media
and that basically being my job, I get hate left and right all day long.
And so I wanted to make a difference and do something about it instead of being a victim of cyberbulling.
So I got involved with Cyber Smile about four years ago now and I go and speak at schools and
Boys and Girls Club and just talk about social media being positive.
I think so many people dwell on it being negative and the bad side,
but you can create this whole community of positivity.
And that's what I love to do and to be yourself and to not let people try to change you.
And that's how I live my life.
And I try to show that to other people.
So I think the work you're doing is great.
You know, I'm certainly looking forward to diving into the pod and I'll see you
Sunday. Thanks so much for your time. Yeah, thank you so much.
