Green Light with Chris Long - Panthers, Texans & Bills Win, Reviewing Eagles Issues + Ryen Russillo Talks Lane Kiffin | NFL WK13 Reactions

Episode Date: December 2, 2025

The NFL's week 13 is in the books and with plenty of games from Thanksgiving to Black Friday to Sunday, the NFL Playoff Race is shaping up. Chris, Beau and Nate react to the action and determine which team has a better chance to run the table - the Chiefs or Bengals? What are the Eagles issues on defense? And which team's win on Thanksgiving was more impressive - Packers or Cowboys? On Thanksgiving, the Packers completed their sweep of the Lions, the Cowboys defeated the Chiefs and the Bengals knocked off the Ravens. Then on Black Friday we saw the Bears run all over the Eagles. Those games all have significant impacts on the playoff picture, then with the Panthers beating the Rams on Sunday and the Bills having their way with the Steelers, the Wild Card races have gotten muddier and muddier. And the Texans are making a push of their own, look out for them to knock off some teams as we get later in the season. And at the end of today's episode, a very special guest joins - Ryen Russillo! Ryen talks about Lane's hire at LSU and what that means for the SEC, Ole Miss and CFB! (00:00:00) - NFL Week 13 Reactions (00:06:55) - Denver Broncos vs Washington Commanders (00:22:20) - Carolina Panthers vs LA Rams (00:32:20) - Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs Arizona Cardinals (00:39:00) - Houston Texans vs Indianapolis Colts (00:47:45) - Jacksonville Jaguars vs Tennessee Titans (00:52:35) - Buffalo Bills vs Pittsburgh Steelers (01:00:50) - Seattle Seahawks vs Minnesota Vikings (01:07:00) - San Francisco 49ers vs Cleveland Browns (01:19:20) - New York Jets vs Atlanta Falcons (01:25:30) - LA Chargers vs Las Vegas Raiders (01:32:30) - Bermuda Triangle Game: Miami Dolphins vs New Orleans Saints (01:39:30) - Thanksgiving Storylines: Cowboys + Bears Win, Packers Sweep of Lions, Eagles Defensive Issues & Bengals Playoff Bound? (02:06:30) - Locals Landline Presented By Zone (02:15:55) - BetMGM Moments (03:03:30) - MNF Preview: New York Giants at New England Patriots (03:07:00) - Ryen Russillo on Lane Kiffin's Hiring at LSU For the NFL's My Cause My Cleats, visit these sites to support:https://mcmc.rayzeapp.com/beauallen http://strongerthanyouthink.org/ Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Also, check out our paddling partners at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Appomattox River Company ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. Green Light's ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, where you can catch all the latest GL action: If you want some Black Friday merch, check out our sale:https://greenlightpodcast.shop/?fbclid=PAZnRzaAOR1RFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA8xMjQwMjQ1NzQyODc0MTQAAad3Jup6i1N2qH77pK8eUeSbKt2Y0OXMldIw1dRTq_xDRuY3Ctp99Qj4pfyGAw_aem_w9tp_XwGL-ZptFIHvlrM1g Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I think they can reasonably talk about winning this division. That defense is a superpower. That defense is the best defense in the league. I also think Caroline did a great job of getting the ball out. I think Bryce was lethal when the ball came out under two and a half seconds. I think LSU loved messing with Ole Miss. This is a long-time division rival. I'm taking their coach before the playoff, which feels gross,

but they get their guy. And I don't blame Ole Miss for being like, we don't want you here if you don't want to be here. He's the perfect football player. He is engineered to play football. It's crazy. Every movement that he does is just nuts. Welcome to the show.

I'm just solving the world's problems with Dr. Fax here. And we got Nolan wearing his Texas live. Welcome. He was in Austin this weekend. I can't wait to hear about that. Cowboy Reed sitting there at the end of the couch. Then Tanner and Charlie is in town behind the machines, as well as Bo inside the computer.

I'm in here. Are you trying to look like Aiden Hutchinson? Yeah, dude. He's sick. That's exactly what I'm trying to be. I would love that. No, he is sick. I'm a little girthier than him.

Yeah, I was going to say. So I heard about that. I heard about, well, no, for people that don't know, can you tell them what you're talking about? You can't just talk about a man's girth and then just move off it. Yeah, you can't talk about a man's girth. Especially in front of Nate. He, uh, what was that?

Was that the, uh, the rivalry game with Michigan and Ohio State this weekend? Yeah. He was the guest pick around game day. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Well, McAfee brought up Aiden Hutchinson's girth on, uh, on the air.

That was a, that was a response to, his response was great. He just goes, uh, I guess ESPN's letting you say anything nowadays. Well, you know, it's funny as like they are, but Lee Corser used to say whatever the fuck you wanted yeah literally he told a little kid quiet midget yeah which is not a word you can say he tossed that to a kid he tossed that uh mascot helmet and said ah fuck it fuck it yeah lee corso they got one of the best parts of my childhood young adulthood was watching le corso um how was speaking of college football texas football nolan no words absolutely electrifying the atmosphere down there in austin i'd never been to like a real life c cc

game so that was kind of my first rodeo and that kind of environment yeah unbelievable like start to finish the state we went in like an hour before just to get a real feel for the vibe and it was packed yeah the stadium was packed like typically you know you get an eagles game maybe mid first quarter people start filing in this place was packed the entrance they came out to hell's bells I mean as my colleague bow out like to say the stadium was was it full torque yeah the hell's Well, that says something about, though, that does cause into question the Texas tailgate game. Yeah, for sure. For sure.

What's not happening in the parking lot? Well, it's probably good for beer sales inside the stadium. For sure. I'm sure. But it was awesome. Incredible game. Shout out to Pat. Coach Crowley down there, the defense rolling.

They stepped up, picked off Marcel Reed a couple times, and then Archmanning was outstanding, especially in the second half. He really took over. How was, did you see the, was the Lincoln line? lawyer down on the field he was down there actually so I was down there with a Ricky from Roxborough um yeah two-time caller on on the locals landline too low too slow is that him yes yes that's Ricky Ricky got a picture with with the Lincoln lawyer okay so nice yeah yeah how'd that interaction go I think it was pretty quick just the you know in and out yeah you want to be

respectful of McConaughey's time for sure Matthew McConaughey's time all right all right all right So anyways How do we get into this? Here's what we're going to do today. We're going to talk about yesterday first. Right? Well, we can talk about Nate's doing the thing. I mean, trust me, dude.

I'm not doing the thing. I've done two hours of programming on the Thanksgiving games. The only thing I didn't get to in depth and we will later is the Black Friday game, which I know many of you would really, They want to see me squirm or something. Like I haven't been telling you all year that you play with fire. We'll get to it.

What do you mean? We'll get to it. You don't got to. Hey, man, don't backseat drive. Hit you with the newspaper, bro. Axis is running the show today. Yeah, what the fuck is this dude? He's killing himself.

I know. Jags won a game again. Ooh, wait, not just won a game. Oh, I love that picture. When you see who's division leaders. and then goddamn the wild card and then the end of hunt. That means you're not at the party.

It's just lovely this year. It's lovely right now just seeing that go up for the AFC and just looking at it like, oh, this looks amazing. And it's not what everyone thought or predicted. And it's not necessarily going to end like that. But for right now, for this week, it feels good. Does anybody have a Xanax? Like fucking unreal

Oh man You bat a thousand huh What should be I mean all your shit's hidden I mean it's feeling good The pats are in the driver's seat The Jags are In the driver's seat

The Bears You're former team Like I don't even cheer for them like I do Because I go so hard for the Jags But the bears too man It's got to be good being you I mean you got the paths It's not too late to claim

That could be your side team, the pads. No, I like the pads. And people could get mad, but you gotta ring with the pads. Dude, I already, my side teams are fucking rolling. Did you see the short prints? We're gonna talk about Bryce Young yesterday. Oh yeah. Every two weeks, I take a fucking little victory lap.

Every two or three weeks. That's how it times up. You know what? We're gonna talk about it later when we get into it, but you know what I realized? What? Our teams are kind of similar. But we'll get into-

Which teams? Which, okay, oh, I like this industry guy here. The thieves. Holy shit, dude. This is unreal. I must have missed the production meeting. All right. So anyways, we will talk about the fact that the Eagles are pretty hapless.

And the other things that happened on Thanksgiving, I thought that was a very good Thanksgiving of football. I did. I actually, like, a lot of times I complained about the quality of the game on Thanksgiving, but those were some pretty good games, including the late game. late game was fun for different reasons okay i know everybody's not going to agree me agree with me on that last one so sunday night football um cowboy reeds commanders take center stage in a game that cowboy reads huh or so sorry broncos my bad bro it's okay broncos my bad broncos takes center stage um and i i had a feeling that like as bad as everything was like there weren't a lot of great

games Sunday and there weren't a lot of games. The NFL, and I'm not saying like they, they decide the way the games played out, but it was, it was obvious that like law of averages, we were going to get a good game. And to strengthen that point, I think the fact that it's the Broncos respectfully playing in the football game guarantees you, you will see at least for stretches of the game, a close ball game. You're getting four quarters. You're getting four quarters and we got five quarters in actuality. We got free football last night. They were like, good free football. You didn't get enough football this week?

Yeah. We'll give you like a three play Broncos drive and then like a 15 play commanders drive that included game wouldn't die, dude. It wouldn't die. Marioita in the grasp on 40s. Mario Ta. Mario Ta. Mario Ta. What was that, bro?

We're going all hard to. What was that? I don't know. I'm trying to think there's anybody. You ever have that where you say one word over and over again, it like loses all meaning? that's how i felt watching chris kansas say mariotta and then all the the memes of like it's leviosa yeah he doesn't want to be pretty incredible being called out for saying guys names wrong no i know he's really enunciating the name but anyways uh we had a we had a touchdown that came

back because of a hold and i called the hold out immediately it was a hold maybe feel quite good because i that touchdown i was freaking and then you were like hold i was like definitely a hold definitely a hold um some people We'll tell you it's not a hold, but I feel qualified to tell you it is. And then you know, you had the urge drop and the subsequent touchdown. And the two-point call was on point, dude. Here's the thing. You know, we're going to talk about the Broncos, but two things came to mind last night watching this game.

Number one, and I think this whenever I watch Marietta, Mario Ta. When I heard Ben Jones talk about the context in which he entered the NFL, playing in Tennessee where allegedly the dudes were sand-lotting the plays. They were on the field, drawing them up in the dirt, and the injuries he incurred. I'd like to give him, from a legacy standpoint, a little bit of grace. I think that Mario Taw would be a good quarterback. He would be a starting quarterback. He would have had a lot more opportunities had it not been for Tennessee drafting him.

Having heard that stuff anecdotally, I think he didn't have. admirable job. And I also think, you know, when you hold Washington, or when you hold the Broncos, rather, to a 17.9% pressure rate, that's the Broncos lowest since week three of 2023. This is per next gen stats. That's when they gave up 70 points to the, the, the, the fins, that to me says Cliff had a good plan. And I do think, and I know Washington fans, they might think differently. We'd have to check with our call-in, buddy. But I think Cliff has played them into some good spots. This year considering everything that's been going on personnel-wise. And I'm not saying he will be interviewed at some point in the not too distant future for a head coaching job. But I'm also not saying it won't happen. And you don't have to like that. I'm just saying this the way the NFL works. And I actually think the commander should be proud of the way they played last night.

But Denver, good football team. That offensive line, the commander's offensive line, not only do they hold the Broncos pass-russian check. 4.3 yards of carry on average for their running game. I mean, we could not stop them. The Broncos could not stop at least to get to the second level and move the chains consistently. I don't know if it was cold or what or it was sleepy time, you know, the Broncos sleepy time. But we, especially in the first half, there were so many. So many mistackles that allowed the commanders to move.

like uh hufanga had one had chris rodriguez dead to rights in the back in the backfield and then he went for 15 you know he just broke a tackle went for 15 and i don't know maybe that is a cool thing i don't know you guys played in the cold is it harder to tackle no i think i think it's a mentality thing yeah i think you know like tackling in the heat used to be tougher to me because everybody's tired you know what i mean like when you get to the end of a play and you need like tackling is not just about deciding to make a tackle or being tough enough. It's about having the focus and the mental energy to put your hat on the right side or, you know, take the right pursuit angle or what have you.

So I always think it's harder to tackle when it's hot. But you listen to some guys who maybe grew up in Florida or some or, you know, smaller guys. They don't like tackling as much in the cold. So it depends on who you ask. But I think, you know, there's two things that come out of this game that I'm worried about. if I'm Denver a little bit is like one the defense you know they'll get it right but I think first off the run game a little bit concerning without jk. Dobbins yeah like to me you know rj Harvey is pretty predictable when he's in the game what happens and you're not getting a lot of you know

traditional run production out of this offense right now it's a little too spotty yeah and a great point of that and chris collinsworth pointed this out on the broadcast but there was a playing in the second half, I think early fourth quarter, we were driving or trying to kickstart a drive. Yeah. The offensive line, the Broncos offensive line had a huge push. They were probably up the field two or three yards from the line of scrimmage. And instead of Harvey going behind his line and getting a positive gain of four or five, six yards,

he bounces it outside where, as Chris Collins said, has no support. Yeah. And just went and got tackled at the line for no game. So basically a waste of down. And you do, like, it's a great point. You notice that, you know, know he literally said Collinsworth literally said Dobbins would have gone right behind his blockers

for the positive game to get the yard. It's a little hole in this roster. You see guys like Evan Ingram stepped up last night. That was great. Like it's good to see him get involved. Yeah, the jerk route. You heard him call it out. Jerk, jerk, jerk.

You know, Nolan said he said jerk. So it was, so it was one of those things where, you know, you like seeing Pat Brian make a big play. You like see they're getting different guys involved. I think Bo Nicks, like the throw before the half, and the flurry of offense you get in overtime. Like the little, they kind of, they can be like Philly, where you know, you get these like lulls.

Yeah. And then all of a sudden, there are these bursts of production. But schematically, it's much better than Philly. Like Sean Payton, I trust him with my children from an offensive football standpoint. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wouldn't leave my kids with Petulo.

Right. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's too slow. Yeah, he's too slow. But I think Bo Nex, the one thing that I noticed last night was, and maybe you've noticed this before, but he never changes his demeanor.

And I think that's one of the reasons they really like him, is like he walked out of that stadium, and the body language he was exuding was like, we just want a fucking football game. Yeah. He's not worried about, damn, I threw that ball right to Bobby Wagner, or like whatever it is. Or the four balls he threw at the feed of wide receivers.

He's worried about winning football games. And, you know, I'm not saying other quarterbacks aren't like that. But I am saying, you know, there are narrative complications in other places that put more pressure on the position. Denver not only is a friendly market, but you know the teams build around the defense. You know, that's the elephant in the room. Yeah. And he's just okay with winning football games. And that's just fine by me as a fan.

Win the damn football game. That's all we want. It seems like it's echoed through the locker room because Sean Payton, he says we didn't escape we won. The journey of a good team season involves games like this and then you believe you can do it again. So like, and he also pointed out that in 2009 when they won the Super Bowl, they played a game in Washington that was, you know, a dog fight shouldn't have been. And all good teams go through this. He pointed out like the five last Super Bowl winners have all played a similar game to this. The Eagles last year. Eagles lost the Falcons, you know, like there's other

games. They lost to Washington. Yep. I was just glad. to get out of Washington on the right side of a two-point conversion because the last time we were there we had that Hail Mary to the zone that was hit caught needed the two-point to tie we were sitting up there's watching that you remember and I was I lost my mind because I was like no PI call no PI call on the but anyway Broncos don't they do not play a normal game and that's going to make it fun whatever happens but the longer this season goes on and we talk about this a lot like Noel and I talk about the state of the AFC and or just the NFC and AFC in general and the way a lot of good defenses are kind of going to drive the playoffs. Yep.

And, you know, to me, like as you kind of look at the field, kind of opening them up, opening up right now, why couldn't they make a run? Why couldn't they win? They've been doing it all season. They've been winning, you know, weird games all year long. Like maybe it doesn't catch up to them. If they get home field advantage, I mean, the running back thing, though, does worry me. That's all. And we'll get to the whole playoff picture talk.

But, like, just on that note, you look at the playoff picture as of right now. Over half the teams have a top 10 defense on the EPA pro play basis, less than half of a top 10 offense. So the landscape is more skewed toward defensive football. And we were talking about this on the way over, Chris. I mean, you look at, like, the guys we consider the top five guys at the quarterback position. four of them might not be able to really make a run. You know, when you look at, you're talking about bills can probably still do it. But then it's Lamar and the Ravens.

It's Burrow and the Bengals won't be in. Who else? Stafford, obviously, is an exception there. And then Mahomes. Remember, Stafford's the only guy this year who has had the year out of the elite quarterbacks that you expected would happen. Right. For the reasons that we just outlined in all that stuff,

Burroughs injury Patrick Mahomes and the chiefs ineptitude and close games you know Josh Allen and talon around him in his spotty play go down the list Lamar Jackson it looks bad there yeah so you know we're not gonna count the Broncos out and then I want to shout out Alex Singleton amazing play middle of the field in regulation but just a chance to give a guy a lot of credit who's been through a fuck ton of stuff you hear about like cancer diagnosis and like treatment for that in a season, like, and then the guy comes back and he's making huge plays on Sunday night. That's crazy, that's crazy.

Wild. And the last thing is this, 85 plays for Washington. Again, part of why I think Cliff called a good game. Okay. The one thing they let them off the hook on, and I don't know how you all feel about this, is going into overtime, the decision not to put Denver's defense right back on the field. Now, I am of the belief. If I was playing Madden, of course, it's not Madden. And I don't care if my defense has been out on the field, 100 plays.

I want the ball. I want to kick the ball off, right? I want to kick the ball off because I want to know how many downs. If I get four downs to score, I'm going to score. You know what I'm saying? Like, if I'm answering a score, I know I have to go on. You'd rather know what you need. I'd rather know what I need.

Yeah. Right. But I understand in that game it might be a little bit different. Well, and they screwed up the, the referee screwed up the coin toss again because Trussway said, we want to kick that way. He only gets one decision. and then Lane Clark was like, you want to kick that way. Oh, Lang Clark's face.

Yeah, and he was like, okay. And he's like, yeah, I know. Whatever happened with that grounding thing? You know how, like, Terry McCallive came on and was like. That's a good question. Terry McCallie? What's his name? Yeah, Terry McCulley.

McCalliff is like a politician. Yeah, he's our governor, former governor. Terry McCauley had just come on and be like, yeah, you know, that is, they don't understand the rules. Bro, it's the worst. And it drives Nate crazy. It's the worst thing ever. That is absolutely not grounding.

Bro, it's the worst thing ever to hear that. And then like then do the opposite on the field and you're just like, like to hear someone who's a referee or who's a higher up in the ref game, whatever it is, say on air that a call is wrong and they're just going with it. I'm like, it literally makes my head want to explode. Yeah. Blue flag. Yeah. It's the blue flag. The blue flag, man.

We floated this idea where a coach has a certain amount of blue flags and they're like superpowered flags, dude. It's like in Mario Brothers, you know, some mushrooms are more powerful than others. Like a star? Well, and then the other idea you had last night, Chris, that might even better is every coach having a like a little Zoolander phone. Yeah, a little tiny Zoolander phone. And they call New York.

Or they call Terry. Yeah, right. Honestly, I think Terry is in line to make a lot of money in like an advertising campaign. where I don't know who it's for, but like they go to him to just confirm that what just happened is totally fucked up. I was saying like on like, on like C-SPAN, there's like a Senate hearing and they're like, can he do that? And Terry's like, no, that's absolutely unconstitutional.

But it looks like they're going to do it anyways. He's not answering the question at all, Jim. So yeah, I just, uh, anyways, that was pretty good Sunday night football game. Hey, and just to put a bell on your point about, uh, just the Cliff Kingsbury interview idea. There is a good track record of second act. Second act. Bill, Andy,

Mike Shanahan was the second act, head coach, Pete Carroll. Those are just. And then, you know, there's Josh McDaniels too. Yeah,

there's certainly counterfeit. No, I know. I know. I'm just trying to cover my ass. You know, people are going to be like, yeah,

but what about this thing? Yeah. Yeah. But also, I think the Kyler Murray implosion is really good for him. Yep. Yeah.

That shout out our boy, Ernst, getting back in the locker room and be like what happened in the Arizona game well wasn't good go ahead what I just want to shout out earths dude one of the boys that we played with he's still playing he had 10 receptions 10

106 yards and he passed Shannon sharp for fifth most receptions for an NFL tight on I can't believe he's still playing man I know that's awesome dude he was getting guys lined up to he's where to go and just to add for Mary Marriota what you were talking about earlier Mike Mularky

offensive coordinator Terry Rubisky. Ben Jones said when we had Terry Robisky he literally said y'all go play me and Marcus would have the whole game plan just run out there drawn. Y'all go play man y'all go coach can call these plays

leg it's insane anyways what's the first game we're going to hit is it going to be is it going to be you guys tell me there's Rams thurs Rams I guess you got to hit this one because you know, it's the best team losing yesterday.

And I don't want to make it all about the Rams. I want to make it about the Panthers. But I think, like, if you're asking, are the Rams okay, they're fine. You know, and some people will say, well, you know, you give them a pass. You don't give other teams passes. I can easily explain why they lost that game. You know, Stafford throws a pick in the end zone. Stafford throws a pick six.

And I thought Carolina converted. probably eight fourth downs. For touchdown. For touchdowns, a lot of them. And I also think Caroline did a great job of getting the ball out. I think Bryce was lethal when the ball came out under two and a half seconds. And, you know, I also think, for what it's worth, I want to shout out Aki Aquano. You know, I didn't get a chance to like really watch this game back twice.

But I thought they did a good job of helping the guys up front. But when he had opportunities, I thought he looked pretty good. and he's looked really good. And I think he's one player that, like, is another lesson in exercising patience with linemen especially. You know, it's Andrew Thomas thing. The list goes on. But I was very happy for Bryce because they look completely content,

just running the football on third and three, third and four. And had he not been able to cash in on those fourth downs, you'd hear the same narratives. I think Coker helps a lot. And I see the vision outside. They got big guys outside. It hadn't worked out everywhere. Xavier Leggett, you know, prime example.

Ted McMillan, big body. Coker's a big guy. And so I think they got a thing going there. They do all this without being able to rush the passer. They just drop back and play, you know, coverage. And, you know, for a group that plays zone a lot, like to be able to just hold Matt Stafford at Bay to pick him off to end the game on not quite a walkoff because Bryce had to, you know, finish with that third and six.

But Derek Brown, who tipped the ball? that went to the end zone for the interception that's a de-linment's dream right there dude in the rain crowds going nuts by the way that crowd was fucking as loud as it's been since probably cam newton played there and it's it's coming down and um you know every time you're on the road and you're a very good team sometimes you get punched in the mouth and there's a moment where you're like oh shit and i think there were a couple moments like that for the rams the rams kept fighting man you had the pookinacinacool one-hander and to credit the panthers they just kept counterpunching man so Central NFL football game, double-digit line. Rams look like, you know, juggernauts last Sunday

night. Panthers look hapless on Monday night and what happens. You come into Carolina, you come to the bank and you get beat. That's crazy. But the Panthers, man, three really quality wins this year. You got Dallas, Green Bay, and now the Rams. It's wild to see them go week to week because they've got two losses of 25 plus points. They lost to the Saints, which might be a Bermuda game this week. but now they have beaten the Rams and the Packers. Yeah, give you a little analytics report card here on the Panthers. 23rd, offensive EPA, 23rd offense success rate, 25th and defensive EPA, 16th, defensive success rate. And as you mentioned, Chris, 32nd in pressure rate.

Like the report card says, this is a bad football team. Like, across the board. It's wild. Bo, Bo, they're all, Bo, they were missing J.C. Horn and Moerig and guys like that to, like, be able to win this game. I just, it's a real. confidence booster no matter what happens right now it's about the future for this group too you know it muddies up the nfc south too i mean we'll we'll talk about the bucks game here in a little bit but if you were to tell me that the you know the panthers would beat the rams uh at home and kind of muddy up

this nmc south playoff picture the way that they have in the last couple weeks like i'd been like what the fuck are you smoking doctor facts but um i don't know it's interesting man well i feel like we haven't heard from facts and whilst i'm just trying to you know poke the bear a little bit but uh yeah we'll see how it goes man i mean they've played each other here soon um i don't know i'm just not a huge believer in the panthers i love our valiant prints as someone in the chat said our little short prince the bun who's promised i just i'm not certain about the team as a whole like they've been getting these gutty wins but i don't think they're a playoff team you can correct me if you think i'm wrong but to me i don't know the answer to that i i this is the i absolutely need this to play out you know

what's funny. You know, like, I'll tell you in a month. And that's, that's fucked up. You know what a panther is? I think that's fair. It's a big cat. It's actually, it's actually just a jaguar with darker pigmentation. No way. Are you serious? I swear to God. It's actually that. And if you think about it in football terms, holy

shit. It's a melanin-induced Jaguar? It's a melanched that's literally all it is. And if you think about it in Malina-Jag. These teams are very similar, whereas when you ask about them, you the same answer. Do you think the Jags are going to make the playoffs? I don't know. If they make the players, do you think they win a game? The Panthers, do you think this Panthers team? Let's get to the

heart of the question in hand. Which quarterback would you rather have? I was just going to ask you. Look at my eyes. It's one of those things where if I really sit down and think about it, if we swap quarterbacks, how much better or worse are these teams? I think the Jags were better. I think the Panthers are way worse. Dude, I think the Jags are better. Are better. And I say that with respect to who is, was a fantastic college quarterback and has at time been a good pro quarterback.

Absolutely. And I got no problem with his character, nothing like that. But I just don't, I don't see it. And I see something with Bryce. And maybe his leash is longer because the run on him's been shorter. But I would love to see them really actually build a. around them and that's what they're doing they're a year off at least from being able to to compete so that's the next thing if they if they don't make the playoffs or if this is just like a strike and lightning

bolt they maybe get to the playoffs if they don't win now like what do you keep building around bryce or you take yeah i mean you got time to make that decision yeah you know to me it's about hey we got let's get the defense to where we're a scary group um let go ahead oh no but also i was going to and now seeing Bryce like this. Yeah. Like are you confident that like he can be a big time play? Dude, why would you? Okay, why in the NFC South where the Bucks have Baker Mayfield

but Atlanta doesn't know what they're going to do and New Orleans doesn't know what they're going to do? Would you ever think about what's next that quarterback? Especially when you've got a guy who just beat the L.A. Rams at home who have looked like juggernauts this year and the defenses look really good. And, you know, I thought they did a good job in the run game. Hubbard got a lot. of touches. They got two backs that can really get after you in different ways. And like I said,

guys like Aquano are starting to play really well. And I've liked, listen, they got guys on defense like Scorton, who I've talked about this year where they're young, unheralded, but you see them making plays. Matt Stafford got speed bumped by Scorton on that pick six. It was just that kind of day where they just kind of got punched in the mouth. So is it a, is this game more about the Panthers or the Rams? I think it's more about the Panthers and what they're trying to build and the Rams had an off day. Stafford has these days. He had one against Philly earlier this year where, you know, and he wasn't made to pay for

it all game, he missed some throws. He missed some throws. Even the touchdown to Devante Adams, that ball's a little bit off. And, you know, there was a ball before the picking the end zone that he really forced to the pylon. And so he just wasn't himself. Do I worry about the Rams? No, but they've earned that respect.

They have a 97% chance of getting into playoffs. And for the Bucks and Panthers, 80% chance the Bucks make the playoffs, 22 for the Panthers. Bryce Young, his fifth year option, they're going to have to make that decision this offseason. But is this season with Bryce Young and with how well the defense has progressed? Is that a checkmarker we're all in on Dave Canales? Yeah, I think Dave's doing a good job, man.

I do. I think Dave's doing a good job. Look at the way that stadium was, I mean, I know it's a superficial, weird way to talk about something, but it was fucking loud. Which is, remember, two years ago, people are excited. Two years ago was six bucks a ticket to get in at the end of the time. David Tepper's not the front page. You know who should be very happy about this?

David Tepper. David Tepper should be very happy about this because we're not talking about him. And I won't for very long here. We'll just go back to it. But like, for two years, that's what it was. We were just talking about how bad ownership was or how bad the quarterback was or yada, yada, yada. And then for a minute we were talking about Dave Canales' like, you know, funny literature. sure. Yeah, they're literally the gooner crew down there.

And then they just get to work, man, and they're playing good football. So anyways, quality wins, quality wins for this team. We'll talk about a picture at large in a little bit. The Panthers are finally at their week 14 by, and then out of that they'll go to New Orleans. In week 15, I finished the year on a Seahawks sandwich that'll be served on Buccaneers' bread. So the NFC... You scared me because we do have to make the qualification. every time that the sandwich.

You have to state the bread. People always fuck this up. Yeah. Yeah, because you know, it's, you don't need a ham sandwich by putting a piece of bread between two cuts of ham. No, you know. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. It's an important distinction. And for the bucks, they see the Saints next week, then they go Falcons and then Panthers, Dolphins, Panthers. Yeah. I feel like the Seahawks and the Panthers play each other a lot. Like they're like out of conference, like friendlies. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That was an Andy Dalton duel a few years ago. Okay, so the next one off of this is the bucks, the bucks get a win. Borderline flyover, but Beau saw it. What did you think, Bo? Yeah, I mean, this was, I'm just going to level with you. You're a little bit of a boring game.

Borderline flyover, like you said. But I thought it was interesting. One thing I've been kind of thinking about this year as far as the bucks go, you know, we were just talking about the Panthers. We've just talked about, or we're going to talk about the Jags. Nate can't shut up about them. If you think about the bucks offensively, they've lost two of their offensive coordinators in back-to-back years

who are, you know, they've gone on to be successful in Jacksonville and in Carolina right now. And it's like, I was just thinking about this in terms of like Baker. And, you know, it feels like he's fallen off a little bit, like how many goddamn years in a row is Baker playing with a new offensive coordinator? His whole career. It feels like he's probably every year he's got a new guy. But anyway, I guess I think it was a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a

a sleepy game offensively for the Bucks. We got Bucks got Bucky Irving back. What do you have? I think he had like almost 70 yards or something like that. 17 carries. So that's a good little boost to them. I love Chris Godwin. He was a stud when I was there. He's been battling through injuries this year.

It's good to see him, you know, get a couple more touches. I think he had like three or four receptions. You know, Baker was banged up at the end of the Rams game. He looked honestly a lot healthier than I thought he would in this game, which is very reassuring. I saw a couple times like he avoided a, from Buda Baker rolled out to his right and caught Chris Godwin for a big first down on the first half. But it just feels like the bucks haven't been able to like, you know, get their big playmakers going offensively.

Some of that's due to injury. I've been wanting to see a little bit more out of Amika Igbibbu. He had a sleepy, good game, but like, you know, he was really popping off earlier this season. I felt like he's waiting for that. it just feels like he hasn't, you know, had a touchdown in a couple of weeks. It feels like he's kind of, you know, you know, at that point in the season as a rookie where it really starts to feel like a grind. So that's kind of the bucks offensively. Defensively for the Bucks, I am a little worried about their defense head into the playoffs.

It feels like they're really missing an edge rusher. Yaya Yadiyabi is kind of their only guy who provides any sort of juice in the pass-rush game. And then I think their linebacker struggle a lot in coverage. We've talked about that at times, but they were able to pick up an interception. Antoine Winfield, I think, was a deflected pass from Jamel Dean. So that was big. I mean, listen, this Cardinals team, I think, is a lot better with Jacoby Brissette in the lineup. But I just don't think they're pretty unsurious, as you would say, Chris.

I don't have a ton of positive things to say about them. One note that I'm seeing here is that the Cardinals have outgained their opponents in five of are nine losses and have lost four of those by four points or less. So it's, Bo, I'm sorry to, but that's the point is like, it's easy to diminish this win. But this Bucks team has been, I mean,

I'm going to strengthen and weaken my point at the same time. They've lost every one score game they've been in. And they've been in a lot of them. So, you know, being in a one score game with the Cardinals, there's no shame in that as long as you don't lose it. Right, right.

You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, they figured out a way to win it, which is, Kind of like, you know, we just talked about that with the Broncos. And I just am like, I don't know. I don't really know how to feel about the bucks.

I feel like there are times, you know, earlier times in the season. So exciting, so explosive. So much moxie out of Baker. And now, you know, they're grinding out one score victories. I know. I know how to feel about them, Bo. Bo, I know how to feel about it. How's that?

Luke one. No. Like they're still going to win the division. And like when they get everybody back offensively. They'll look like they looked in pockets of the season. But that's a big if. If everybody comes back healthy and, and, you know, Evans is back and Bucky stays healthy and, you know,

their offensive lines a lot better than it was, you know, six weeks ago. Well, speaking of, Chris, they do have an elite playmaker in Tristan Wirf's who had a touchdown. I know. And that was it. Hey, listen, that was a call. That wasn't like a, hey, like fuck around. Hey, we're up 30 points. You know, they were having trouble down there.

And they go to Tristan Wurfs. So good on Gris for making a call like that and it working out. I also want to shout out Logan Hall. Great push on that fourth and one. It ends up being a big play in the ball game where he's in, I think he was in a three technique. And he just fired off the ball, completely reset the line of scrimmage,

kind of hero mode makes a play. That was big. And it was good to see God went out there looking relatively healthy. You did drop that touchdown, but nice block on the, on the Bucky touchdown. And we're going to shout out our guy, Josh Sweat, double-digit sacks for our dude, Josh Sweat. that was my first great take

not that I've had many after but the Josh Sweat take rookie year I said this guy's gonna be really fucking good he'll tell you he end up it's amazing what he's done with his career considering the injury he had in college he would have been drafted top five had it not been for that injury in my opinion he

just a stud so happy for him Baker's had eight offensive coordinators in his 10 NFL seasons he's had Liam Cohen twice and also Freddie Kitchen twice. Yeah, dude, that's a badge of honor. That is a badge of honor. He should get a parking spot at the grocery store. You know what I served under Freddie Kitchen?

Yeah, if you served under pretty kitchens, you know one of those like Vietnam era hats. They let you board the airplane first, dude. Yeah. You know, active duty military and then have you played for Freddie Kitchens and everybody's side eye in Baker Mayfield. So anyways. The bottom line, though, Chris, is basically exactly what you said. Tell me stone cold.

Not a super impressive win for the box. You feel like they're going to get it done in the NFC South, at least I do. I'm just worried about them in the playoffs, especially like the defense to me hasn't looked to be show-stopping and kind of like what you said, no, and a lot of these top-up teams have really good defense. I think they have a lot of holes on defense.

I think they're better. I think they're potentially better than they were last year on defense and as a team. But it hasn't worked out, you know, from an injury standpoint. Because think about it, they got better in the secondary. And like, honestly, to me, you know, the pass rush is going to be a problem. No matter what, they're going to have to win shootouts if they get in. All right. So the next game would be Texans and Colts.

I think this was this was a fun game to watch. Anytime the Texans defense is playing, it's a fun. game to watch. I just, I don't think it matters who's playing quarterback respectfully for this team right now. I got home from Dirty Nellie's Saturday night. We, after the game, partied for a little bit. I had to, these guys, legit, this isn't me just saying it. I did not want to go. And y'all, like, y'all definitely peer pressure me. And I told my wife, you know, when you're like, I don't want to go, the guys want me to go, and you're like full of shit. I was not full of shit. Dude, I want to go to sleep. I called Nate, and Nate was like,

come on man you have to come out you got to come out and get a beer like we just won the game or something ourselves anyway so i got home kind of drunk and i woke up sunday i woke up Sunday morning and i checked my bed and gm account and um i had a uh i had a like uh i forget what the odds were they were pretty like plus 700 or something texans to win the division bang bang 2 08 a m and woke up and I was like that's how you feel Chris from last night and uh ended up feeling totally vindicated because the defense is fucking there's something about and I know Daniel Jones definitely broke his leg like they don't make shit like that up and some of these injuries can be weight bearing or not weight bearing and it decides how you play and it could get worse like

this could end poorly but that comes from the agent there is no good reason from a standpoint of like competitive edge that that gets out it's definitely an agent thing it's definitely a color cover for Daniel Jones um and it invites pressure it invites middle pressure it invites you know game planning knowing that I can't move this guy off the the spot you can't change his launch point um you're not going to move the pocket so I think it's like a double-edged sword there I I think Daniel Jones is not the reason they lost this game. I think Daniel Jones made some big throws, especially in the second half. That ball he threw to downs on the sideline was a fucking dime.

He also threw some stinkers, but not more than CJ Stroud, who, you know, I love Stroud. That's my guy. He looked rusty. I mean, he threw the ball. At one point, he was past the line of scrimmage by three yards. You know, it was like he was doing shit like that. He threw the pick backed up. Just a bad deal in the first half.

But as the game went on, the thing I loved, about Houston's offense is they are capable at this point of going three plays at time. And we've seen sporadically this year them possess the football for six, seven minutes at a time with an anemic run game, six, seven minutes at a time. Tanner, my, what generation are y'all motherfuckers? Gen Z. Gen Z motherfucker behind my kids, man. They're not even Gen Z. I don't know what their generation is. But whatever it is, they don't, we won't stop about this thing.

And we said this this weekend, not to get it on a sidebar for Texans fans, I'm sorry, but like, we had the number 69, dude. That was a lot cooler. Like, you guys think you're cool. You guys are fucking losers. Like, 69's a funny thing. Nah, 69 is a way better than six. What? The 69 is a real, like, gooner sexual thing when you think about it.

What does gooner mean, bro? I'm too old, man. It means jerking off. That's it. We're going to talk about the Texas. I was just saying six seven's week. Okay. But they can move, they can have the ball for six or eight minutes at a time.

And you saw like in the Denver game, for instance, where they possessed the football really well, but they couldn't get in the red zone. So I think going forward for them, it's the short passing game. It's not taking negatives, which they had a lot of, you know, plays yesterday. They got knocked down the line of scrimmage, but they didn't have a lot of three, four-yard losses. They didn't take a bunch of sacks. And when they got in the red zone, they found on two different. different occasions, a way to get on the perimeter and score. And I thought, you know,

Schultz threw a great block on the end around to Nico Collins. And then somebody else, I can't remember of Stover or something like that. Or who the hell is that guy? They got a bunch of similar looking tight ends. Stover. Stover. Stover. Yeah, yeah. Stover on a crack toss. The point I'm making is I think they can reasonably talk about winning this division. That defense is a superpower. That defense is the best defense in league. Like, with all due respect to God's team, read. Like, I think you guys are fantastic. There is a level of violence and speed on the field. They can play a man coverage and just play off. And they break on the ball and like they were hammering in cuts. And it's just there was a sequence in this game where it went to-o-to and he ran through the

middle of the pocket and just put a dent in i think it was jonathan taylor's face mask uh it the violence and then the next play will anderson's big ass is the floater standing over um who was it the center and he just you bordalini a friend of the program and runs him over the violence with which they play and ultimately in this game daniel jones you know inability to get off the spot and the fact that in the first quarter or whatever it was sauce gardner leaves with an injury you've been playing primarily man coverage since he came along your game plan changes when he leaves the game and i think for the colts buckner being gone really really hurts them you talk about those negatives and shit like that um you don't have a bunch of pass rush so i think a lot was to be gleaned

from this game and do i think indy's going to get a lot better i don't know because um they have a problem on third down that broken leg is not healing on the fly and i and you brought up the point about inviting pressure, how that injury invites pressure. The Texans were a 37% blitz rate in this game. That's a huge uptick from 23% across the first 12 weeks. And specifically on third down, there are 50%, which, again, huge uptick over 30% coming in. So I think that's a reflection of them knowing,

hey, this quarterback can't move. He's not going to move well in the pocket. And I think it's also kind of how the book on Daniel Jones reads a little bit right now with the way he struggled against the blitz and how many times last night well i'm watching the watching back did i turn to you and say where are you going with this football right and the and when that happens a lot in the game when i'm watching a game like it starts to be a pattern there are some situations over the past couple weeks with daniel jones where he reverts back to being the indecisive or poor decision maker and um you know i alluded to the third third downs first nine weeks 51

percent second in the league weeks 10 through 12 30 percent that's 28th in the league well you remember in In Germany, they went like three quarters without fucking converting on third down. And there's all types of these situations. You know, you had a drop on fourth. And you had a drop late in the game, Josh Downs. You know, you had a week ago, you had them in the red zone running that angle route

off of motion and they're just not on the same page. Like there are little things that are happening to a well coach football team that have me questioning, like are they out of bullets in this situation? I'm not saying they're gonna be bad football team or not make the playoffs what I'm saying is like they don't scare me as much as they did like a month or two ago and as the offense looks like it's coming down to a little bit mainly due to the injury of the quarterback around that you know the defense is is an average at best group you know

obviously when they had sauce and it looked like there was some improvement there but now you're going to be without him for a couple weeks so um that I think that defense is going to be exposed a little bit to as the offense and they're on the field a lot last week 91 plays this week i don't know how many plays it was but you know last two weeks your teams your playing are averaging about 40 just under 40 minutes of possession so just just not the way you want to get it done and guess so next week texas ran 71 plays 71 plays but but Nate and once a before the half third and 10 knowing this to me and this speaks to like maybe where they think the kb is or whatever but like third and 10 before the half you run the ball if i remember correctly

you don't get the ball back out of the half and you know full well they're going to get the ball. I don't think you get the ball out of the half until like seven minutes unless I'm remembering it the wrong way. Yeah, they ran out watching it. Yeah. So anyways, big win for the Texans. Big win for Domeco Rines.

I'm happy for him. Now, Nate, you got center stage. Talk about your Jags, bro. The division leaders. Is that how I address them now? I mean, hey, you can address them any way you want. But usually when that, that pitcher up there. You always want to find a way to talk about the Chiefs and then being in the postseason

and all this other stuff. Get them the fuck out of here. It's the Jaguars. It's the Jaguars. It's the Jags. It's us. It's us. You were talking about the Titans last week. Oh, I think I'm going to take the Titans, man. Look at the number. The Titans. Belt to ass. Get them out of here. It's Arden Key's fault. Well, blame it out whoever you want. But the Jack were ready. We're ready. It's December. It's December football. It was November football last, last, yesterday. Yesterday.

But now it's December football. Uh-oh. It's going to be different now. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is. Getting different. Guys are getting healthy. I like the way our offense looked.

I mean, hey, Trevor is Trevor. You don't know what we're going to get with him, but it's on everyone else to be ready that when Trevor does decide to have a good game. You guys have to have a good game. you guys have to have a good game too. I need you to stand by. And so as long as that happens, then we're all good. Jacoby Myers looks amazing.

Him and Trevor, they look good. We got Brenton Strange screaming down the middle. Big, big tight end, just running through the middle, scoring touchdowns. Ha! That is a pause. But for him, it's all good. My man, Cam, I got a big leg, little. Whoa.

Just kicking, we just, we just have to get the ball over, over the 50 yard line. That's all we have to do. That's all we have to do. And I think the Jags, if we simplify things, they still piss me off because we go into all these games and we give the ball to Intian and Bachel to it. And we're just running the ball and we look so good doing it. And then it's like we go in halftime. Yeah, what's up with the run game though in the second half?

I have no, like, I don't know what that is. But the defense stood up, though. They play, and I got to say, Jacoby Myers is a real weapon for you guys. And I'm happy for him because, you know, to escape Vegas. And, you know, it helps Trevor work the middle of the field. That to me, he's the perfect guy for what they needed. And I think it's only going to get better now.

BTJ, Brian Thomas, this was his first game back in a couple of games. Once him and Jacoby Myers are on the field together and with Parking, It's just one of those things now you kind of have to force defenses and the guys, the man-up guys, hey, who are we manning up? Who's the number one? And as long as everyone just catches the ball on the days that Trevor decides to play well, I think it's going to go well for the Jaguars here out. We got the Colts coming in.

And if you look at the past, the Colts having won in Jacksonville since 2014. I know. And they're primed to lose the way they're playing. And everything that's going on. You guys, man, like, I got to hand it to you. I think it speaks to how good the coach is. Absolutely. You know, because my opinion on the quarterback doesn't change much.

But the way they put things together and the way they hired on defense, you know, I think it's just a big turnaround, man. So congratulations to your squad, man. Happy. Enjoy this. And D. D.K. You got to get DK for the Titans. He got to do better.

He got me negative points in fantasy this week. Yo, DK definitely got to do better. Are you really a fan of your team if you're starting guys who are playing your team? That's interesting. That's a code break. Yeah, it is. Code break. Yeah, it is.

We got to bring code breaks back. Yeah. When you're trying not to be the last place in the fantasy week, you got to do. You got to do what you got to do. Dan Rolowski tweeted about a week ago, man, Trevor Lawrence. Coach Dan Rolowski? Yes, coach Dan Rolowski. Future Pittsburgh Steeler, Coach Dan Rolowski tweeted,

Trevor Lawrence has some throws on tape that looked like he's the best player at the position in football. Then he has three or four throws a game that look like it's his first start roller coaster ride. If he ever gains consistency, it's a roll. It is an absolutely roller coaster ride because some of the passes, yeah, the touchdown of Brent Strange, the laser watching that, I was here at the studio and I was so excited. And then he throws some bullshit and you're just like, what are you doing? That's the thing. He's really talented.

But he's not, it's not, he's not, he's not, it's not, it's not, it's a crazy hot scale. He'd have to be a lot hotter. He'd have to his highs would be have to be a lot higher you know comparing it to the Josh Allen stuff where I'm like I can forgive that I just can't when I see it As often as I see it It's not a ceiling issue. It's a floor issue It's a floor issue raise the floor it's a floor issue So we're gonna talk about the bill Steelers man This is a tweet from Seth Rorabaugh

It's the best Mike Tomlin will say something like we can eat soup with forks we need spoons we need spoons then the Steelers will sign a 2018 Pro Bowl to the practice squad. Did we look up the 2018 Pro Bowlers? No, I did. Yeah, you know, that's a good question. Because if someone gets signed there this week. I would totally believe it if that was a top one quote.

This is what this game was to me. Like I had people ask me before the game. You betting your guys, you get, you won't, should I bet the bills? No, you shouldn't. They're down two starting. tackles who happen to be two of the best players on their offense. They're down their number one pass catcher in King Cade. They're down their number two wide receiver and Josh Palmer really. And, you know, Keon Coleman's playing in the football game. And Josh has been a box of chocolates

this year, dude. You just, you know, shout out Forrest Gump because he just, I'm not sure what I'm going to get. And yesterday, what I got was a team football win. You know, I saw the bills support players play well, including those tackles. You know, you talk about like Alec Anderson, who played right tackle for them yesterday, hadn't played right tackle in a game since UCLA. I've heard that talked about a lot. Like he's reps and preseason stuff, but that's a big spot for him. You think about the edges, even as bad as the Steelers have been,

will they be able to, A, run the ball enough with enough authority that it's not going to be an issue to drop back and throw it? And B, when they do, will Josh be getting murdered? And yes and no. Yes, they were able to run the ball with authority. No, they didn't get Josh killed. And QB run game was part of it. But I just think coming in there and in a game where Pittsburgh scores, you go down,

you're Sean McDermott, you decide, hey, we're going to go. We get a procedural penalty. Going was the right call, you know. But the fact they only kicked the field goal, there's a chance that the Steelers come out of the half and go out 14. In a game like that, they're going to lose it. and Joey Bosa, who has five force fumbles now this year, you talk about being a mercenary pass rusher. It is about those big plays.

It's about, hey, we don't know how we're going to win this game, but somebody's got to step up and make a play. And to Barry Rogers, the first play of the second half, and legitimately, the quarterback gets up and he's got a bloody face, man. Bro. Like, dude, and he's got a cast on his hand. He looked like he was going through it that game.

He looked like he was tough. I know we're not supposed to say this, which is stupid. But like if you play a quarterback and you bloody his face without doing something dirty or intentional, like you're doing your job, dude. They knocked him legitimately out of the game for a player or two. Mason Rudolph came in, threw the ball to Benford. Benford touched the ball twice in two minutes. The minute the clock hit 13 minutes in the third quarter, it was over.

And you know why it was over because the bills came into their house and said, we're going to set the fucking rushing record on you guys 250 yards they ran for a country mile on those dudes man it was it was amazing and they were in the same fucking play over and over again you know no 20 reps of duo 20 reps of duo you know they tested the they tested the right edge you know whether it was porter junior or whoever was over there guys getting nosy corners playing off james cooks as good as anybody at bouncing the football and you know they did it with scheme they did it with force they did it with angles and they just ran the fuck out of the football so the other thing is they tackle well defensively which is something they haven't always done and that's the name of the game when you play the Steelers the only way the

steelers can kill you is if you don't tackle well and i thought shack Thompson played well for them the bills i know i do this every time they win but like look at the afc man you know that their bugaboo might not make the playoffs dude and then it comes down to can you beat the Patriots You know, can you beat these other teams? You might have to go on the road. But if you can run the football and if you get Kincaid back and, you know, Brandon Cooks comes along for them, I thought the backs played really well for them. Ty Johnson, huge conversions.

Ray Davis hasn't done much this year, but a big spot for him. It was just a team win and it was a physical statement. Hey, Chris, I have a 2018 pro bowler. Good fit for the Steelers. You ready? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Adam Thielen. Oh my God.

They need some receiver help. He just asked for release today. Kind of a nice fit, dude. Bro. The fact that could work out. It's kind of a nice fit. Hey, that's disrespectful. He also, you know, as a white, wide receiver,

you know he's going to be in those extra meetings with Aaron Rogers. You know, he's going to be looking for those, those hand signals. Are you calling him untalented? I'm just saying at this stage in his career, he's sad. He better be in all the meetings. Oh yeah, Roger said guys weren't in the meeting. Bro, that's disrespectful as hell. Like, I just feel like if you're a wide receiver,

if you're a wide receiver and like Aaron Rogers, if anybody, even if it's the first time you're being on a team with him, if you're having extra meetings for like checks in wide receiver stuff with the quarterback, I think that's crazy to have the quarterback even say that out loud. And can I say something? Unless it's D.K. Metcalfe. Yeah. And they're like, and they're beefing and it's like, fuck you, they stole me the ball.

should be on the same page the margins are too too thin for them and and but i will Aaron rogers is a guy that when he was in new york i did not feel empathy for because i was sorry he got hurt obviously but like i don't know if it was and i said this last under my live show and i don't mean i'm not taking a shot i just you know the macafee appearances got tiresome for me and hearing you know the hey he's on the wrong side of the red line and also like what do you expect man you chose the jets you know like it's going to be fucked up around you But when he picked the Steelers, I thought he picked a good landing spot. And I guess I thought wrong.

I just, for me, I feel bad for Aaron Rogers in actuality. And I never would have said that last year. I feel bad for him because the protection's not been good. It's not a well-built group. And he hasn't found a rapport with anybody really outside wide receiver-wise. I think they have two really good weapons out of the backfield in Warren and Gainwell. And I think Washington's like a very interesting, weapon to have, but they're not a conventionally built offense. They would have needed, this whole

thing would have worked out, and Rogers has no control over this, if they're in 20 to 16 games. Their defense has not played up to it. You know, they just haven't. And I do feel bad for Rogers. This is not the way I like seeing one of the greatest quarterbacks in the game go out. He should be in Minnesota. Well, and is he playing his way down the greatest QB list because of your recency bias? No, I don't judge players based on their last stop, like when it comes to their real legacy. I just don't, not unless they're in the prime of their career. He's not in the prime of his career. What do you expect a 40-plus-year-old guy?

Tom Brady ruined this thing for everybody. That's what I was going to say. Tom Brady had almost 32,000 pass yards, 218 pass touchdowns, and two Super Bowl wins after he turned 40 years old. That's so dumb when people, I'm not saying you're doing it, but when people are like, yeah, well, Brady was able to go. I'm like, well, okay. There was a, I saw a tweet the other day that showed Brady's, his first 12 years of his career. Yeah. Compared to his second 12 years, like the two, you know, stats.

And then he had basically those two careers were both better than Joe Montana's single career. It's wild, dude. It's wild. It's wild. Incredible. So anyways, I just think it was a big team win for them. And, yeah. So they got the Bengals next week who are going to be really hungry.

And we'll see. I don't know what the, you know, the cats. Cat team's bowling out right now. The cats are on the move. Let's do flyover, shall we? I just want to put it up there. It feels good. Feels good that the Jags aren't in the flyover this week.

It feels good, man. You know, I told you. I got you. I mean, that's a flyover type game, not because of you guys, you know, anything you are or aren't. But it was a fucking hideous game to watch. Yeah, but just wait for all the hideous ones we're going to have to keep watching when they keep winning. No, you're right.

They're going to be in four-minute mode the rest of the season probably, I would think. As everyone buckles their seatbelts as we board the flyovers. Who do you want to hear from? BetMGM. Oh, yeah. This flight is presented by BetMGM. I want to hear from them too.

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yeah I can start this off I mean the Vikings did not score a single point the Seahawks won 26 to zero that's why I sent the flyovers I mean I was pretty critical of J.J. McCarthy last week he's in concussion protocol which is why University of Minnesota Golden Gopher.

Fuck the Gophers. But Brosmer started and honestly he looked like he wasn't quite ready. I mean, there was a lot of throws that he missed. Now, the Seattle defense is very good. It's a tough place to play. So I kind of feel for him in that respect. But, man, he just didn't play well. He had a, it didn't really, it seemed like he just was, wasn't quite ready.

He had a Will Levis-esque play that resulted in a pick six. That was why? Not a lot of good things. Yeah. that was that was bad ball and there's really no other way to put that man i know it's worth now you Jesus dude you can't yeah um offensively yeah not a ton to talk about um for the vikings obviously since they didn't score it just feels like they're in a very tough position with their quarterback situation and then obviously sam darnal on the other side of the field

Minnesota let him walk um i think the one kind of bright spot if you are the vikings uh i was impressed with flores and the defense they sacked Donald four times. A lot of middle pressure. We talked about that a little bit, Nolan. But can you tell me what you're seeing on tape, how the opposing defenses are attacking the Seahawks and how that might come back to rear its head in the playoffs and the final stretch of this regular season? Yeah, I think that, I mean, coming out of this, obviously Seahawks fans are seeing 26-0-0-0-win. You want to feel good about it. But I do think that this is becoming a pattern for them with Sam Darnold

and that kind of becoming the blueprint to slow down this offense is middle pressure post-nap rotations it's kind of like you know you look at the season JSN's having it's like man how do you cover this guy the way you cover him is move darn it off his spot it kind of short circuits the entire offense

you know Flores he's known for blitz and they blitzed over half their plays yesterday and held the Seahawks to a 26% offensive success rate when they blitzed they had Cubi Act Donald the offensive line in a blender trying to get these counts correct get the blitzes picked up also the Minnesota edge guys won a bunch of rushes granard turner van ginkle obviously so I think there

is a there is kind of a blueprint out there now and I think that's a little concerning for the Seahawks moving forward so but you said it man defense was outstanding I mean I don't know if there's a worse assignment for a rookie quarterback going on the field at Seattle the 12s are going nuts You're staring at these fire-breathing dragons across the field of Williams, fucking Murphy, all those guys Ernest Jones. That's a scary group to have to face. Thank you, B.MGM, because that's why at the start of the game, when I see him, Brosman warming up. Brosmer warming up, I was like, this Seattle defense is going to eat him alive. Yeah.

And literally, I went on and I was like, you know, but I'm going to put this first touchdown bet in for Seahawks' defense or special team. That's wild. And what do you know? Yeah. I'm like, what is it? Like a 70, 50 yard plus pick six? 85 yards.

85 yards. And then everyone online, the memes are saying it's rivaling some of the Will Levis stuff. I mean, it is rivaling. But it is tough. Yeah, it's like a welcome to the Western Front. Today is Normandy for you, Private Brosmer. Like, exactly. Good luck out there.

I'm in this, in this boat. Was that? When it opens, just, yeah, go that way. His teammates get so on down. So it's, that best seat,

JJ? Worst seat. Don't take that. Oh, you're talking about. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe. I thought you were saying.

Best seat for the Vikings. Adam simply not having to play. Right. That, Jay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, I was just thinking of the, of, the there's that skit where the you know injured quarterbacks on the sideline he's like that's a good that's a good throw by backup yeah and he was probably like oh yeah that is a good throw right there that's pretty funny man speaking speaking of the backup and starter uh deal there was a moment yesterday when we're about talking about browns and 49ers where shudor left the game and then Gabriel came in and shudor was like no get the fuck out of here dude um so let's talk about that this game here. We'll start with San Francisco. This is the reason I gave them out was because I just think

they're an adult football team. And, you know, when you're playing a football team like that, where it is going to be tough sledding and, you know, you got to block Miles Garrett, who we will talk about. I can't wait to talk about him. But, you know, you get out there and it's windy. And it's one of those games where two days prior, you're looking at the forecast and, you know, there's people standing in a blizzard telling us this is what it's going to look like Sunday. And it just ends up being very windy, which can make it hard to pass the football. But, you know, San Francisco is able to do that. They're able to, you know, they're able to get the ball on the perimeter.

They're able to keep you honest with the run game, play action, you turn your back to the defense, like all that stuff. And that's just why I took San Francisco, and it kind of worked out that way. It was close for a little bit. I think the defense, you talk about guys like Keon White and Cleland Farrell with multiple sacks in this game. Well, Keon White had won. But, you know, it's solid.

The job he's doing defensively with this group is pretty great. they did have 3.36 time to throw so there was a lot of time for the rushers to get there but i think the defense did a nice job they had to deal with a lot of run game Kyle shanahan on a day where Shane Steikin's kind of thing is is blowing up a little bit you know the coach of the year thing he should be on the short list I've been saying this all year man this this team being eight and four whatever they are is very impressive what I see when I see shador right now is I see a mid-round quarterback who just had to hop in and start a football game last week for the first time. And this is the second one. And I see some good things. And I also see things that kind of,

you know, confirm suspicions. And, you know, I said this last night of my live, like, I think the discourse is out of control on each side. And I'm not going to join either side. I'm just going to break this thing down like it's a football game, which is what it is. You know, I do think when you look at this game, you know, there were times, and over the last couple weeks where they've had to run the ball. Like where they get in the red zone, they run the ball, or are they going to Wildcat? And you see other teams doing that too.

So, you know, and in a game like this, you have to understand young quarterback, not a lot of experience. We pointed out the fact that he's not gotten a bunch of practice reps. What they are seeing in practice might dictate that, hey, when the field shrinks in the red area, we've got to run the football. You know, or when we get in third and short

or third in medium, we're going to try to run the ball. on four-down territory because one of the things on Chador is he does take a little bit to get the ball out. When the field shrinks or when time fractions are sped up, young quarterbacks tend to struggle. And they were in this football game. They had multiple opportunities and got stuffed on money down. So, you know, I see a quarterback who's young and every week he's going to grow up. You can't, I think the Jerry Judy stuff, you know, I don't like seeing a wide receiver get on a young quarterback like that.

You know, and I think a lot of people that, well, he's not that guy, but the only thing I don't like about what I've seen the conversation framed like is you're not that guy to be talking to Shador like that. No, you're just not that guy to talk to a young quarterback like that. No one should be talking to a young quarterback like that. Or at least. Because it kills his confidence. At least do that. It should be Tom Brady. Take a step back and then go back over there and then be like, hey, like, yo, I just want to win.

Yeah. Like we want, let's just get on this. And maybe that happened, I don't know. Yeah. But the point is he missed him on third and four. He's wide open. He probably wanted him to rip the out route in the end zone when he had the safety or was close to the safety.

You know, like there were, and these are all teachable moments for him, you know. So he, listen, he's playing in a fucked up situation by nature. It's the Cleveland Browns. The other thing I want to make perfectly clear from where I said is it's not personal. It's the Cleveland Browns. He's playing for a team that has no ambitions of going anywhere this year. And their eyes are set on the future. If he's going to be a part of that future, he's got to play really well down the stretch.

And so that's what it is. To the main event, Miles Garrett, okay? The first play of the game, I can't show you film, but I'm going to show you screenshots of film. Okay, I want you to look at this play right here. The first play of the game, they boot out away from Miles Garrett, who's lined up at the defensive right end. and he's lined up over Trent Williams. And Trent Williams is basically on the hash. You see where my pointer is at the snap of the football?

Miles Garrett beats him, and he gets to that point at Brock Purdy in five and a half steps. I was counting steps. I lost space and time breaking this Miles Garrett tape down, and I'm just doing it because he's so close to breaking this record. So we should all take the time to appreciate what we're getting to watch on film. him right now. This guy's unbelievable. And the Trent Williams matchup is a lot of fun. Before the game, you heard Trent Williams talk about, they were like, do you lose sleep because of Miles

Garrett? And he was like, no. And then he was like, ah, nah, seriously, this guy's fucking pretty good, dude. And when you hear that from a guy like Trent Williams, it just speaks to the respect that he has. They're two amazing Hall of Fame players. There's another rep. I want to show you the next rep here. This was his up and under. You know, his sack, he probably covers six feet on the up and under this is a rep I want laterally it's unbelievable that's insane he's by it's like he teleports man I don't know how we got that far laterally it's insane physiologically biometrically I don't know what the fucking word would be the body mechanics he's the perfect football player he is engineered to play football it's crazy every movement that he does is just

nuts so anyways look at this thing here okay I want I want to show me I need the other picture first cowboy this is where so this is the most amazing rep i've ever seen you got to humor me on this thing because i'm d-line nerding out but basically trent's setting him inside out he's doing a pretty good job of it miles takes a step or two off the ball and that's where he plans to go up and under okay so you see where his right foot is click to the next picture that's one step that's insane that's one fucking step and the craziest thing about this rep i watch this rep for five minutes trent recovers miles takes another big step outside and immediately goes to power all this happens in two seconds it was like watching two good a good offensive tackle and a good rusher

in two x he goes inside then back outside immediately goes to post fucking trent williams trent somehow recovers goes to knock his hands down because miles is at a 45 immediately and miles just keeps driving him backwards and they end up in Brock's lap and Brock gets out of it but to me it's just like when you get a chance to watch two players like this go head to head we should talk about it I don't care

how fucking meaningless the game is it was unbelievable it was like watching you know like the Monstars out there it's awesome I wonder if these guys know how good how good they look when they are doing it you know I was thinking about this today like

if you had to like swap like vehicles with like if I get to drive the Miles Garrett vehicle for a day right how oh this is this fucking cool oh my god but then if I put him in like if I put him like if I put him like he had to drive my vehicle for a day like how much he he would be like damn dude respect like like I goes to the doctor's office yes he's like he just just kill just kills himself Damn, Bo. He's got a family in this situation. A lovely wife.

And, you know, but no, you can't, I can't do stuff. No one can do. The guy's unbelievable. So I just, he's going, I said this, I said last week, he's going to have one or two in this game. And he's going to have at least a hat trick in Tennessee. He's going to break it next week. He's going to break it next week. He's going to have 26 sacks this.

That's just the number I have in my head. We want 30. And what's so cool about that is the way you describe Miles being perfectly engineered to play football, play defensive end. When Trent was really rolling, like his prime, that's what he was for tackle. Yeah. I mean, he like opened up the playbook for like designs. You're able to get to in the run game. No question.

The way he moves. But that's why it's a scheme thing. Like it's talent, but it's also watching Kyle try to avoid him. Yes. You know, like a grizzly bear in like the kitchen. You're trying to make a meal in the kitchen. And there's a grizzly bear in there. And you somehow-

He already said that after the game. Let me put that in the corner line of scrimmage. And like the first thing going through your head is like, where is he? Where is he, dude? There are some actions that they roll him out just so they can get a, they block him with two people and roll him out towards him for a second and then away just to get him a look at Miles to see where he is. Yeah.

You want to get eyes on him. Like first they were just rolling him away. And then they're like, you know what? take a peek and then roll away. It's just, it's fun to watch. So, um, we've, we've got to pull in the chat right now. Miles Garrett is a top blank rusher of all time. Is he top 10, top five?

Can we quantify? Yes, past rusher. I think when it's all said and done, he, he's going to be top two. I think he, there's, that's what I voted, Chris. There's reason to believe that when he's all, yeah, when it's all said and done. And there are people, and I talked about this last night, because on the live show, I was talking like this. And, you know, there was somebody like, he's no LT.

And I go, dude, and I'm not taking anything away from LT or anybody because I think LT or Reggie White, for instance, two of the baddest motherfuckers to ever walk the planet, dude, as far as a football player is concerned. But if you dropped Miles Garrett into a game in 1986, they would call the National Guard. They would seriously, they would, there would be, I said that it would be, legislation like literally you can't put him out there with some of the tackles that he was probably going to face so and don't get me wrong i've seen l t do things that and that's why i'm not saying one's better than the other it's like the erin donald thing everybody wants to it's a different

era everybody's different all guys do different things reggie white's so different than aaron donald erin donald's so different than laurence taylor lawrence taylor is so different than miles garrett i think those guys could end up being like you know the the the mount rush more literally Mount Rushmore. You know? I don't want to get out of my skis. He's got how many sacks? 19 this season.

No, I know on his career. Sorry. Watch him not get the record because I just jinx the fuck out of him. 120 and a half. Nine seasons. In nine seasons. The guy's body to me,

he could play easily 15 in his prime. Like I see at least another six like double digits. He's going to end up like if he's healthy, God willing. And if the Brown's not, Browns have done everything in their power. That's another thing.

They've never been a team that's good to rush for. I don't mean schematically. I mean game script-wise. Crazy. I told you last night, I still had my jersey from when I had 13 on 2 and 14 team, and I thought I was like, he man, for being able to do that.

And this guy's going to have 26 of those motherfuckers. He is six straight 12 sacks. It's incomprehensible. Guys like me or guys that play the position, if you get double digits, It's like it's an amazing year. This guy like had double digits two months ago, or it feels like that.

Yeah. It's fucking nuts. Well, and it's wild because last week we were saying, okay, the record's at 22 and a half. He was at 18. It's humbling. He could have legitimately gotten the record in this game with five sacks because he's done it before.

I know. And it's not. It could happen next week. That's crazy. That's what you were. The tackles in Tennessee. Uh-uh. and Cam tries to make plays.

Yeah. It could be an ugly deal. All right. The Hemingway game. I'm putting a mandate on. We can only make the plain noise so many times in the show. The Hemingway game, dude, the drunkest game on the board, the Jets and the Falcons. You can make an argument that the Bermuda Triangle game, which is coming up soon,

would have been the Hemingway, but this was pretty drunk, wasn't it? It was kind of shitty drunk. With Turad? Yeah. T.T. T-T-T-T. Terrod versus Kirk in 2025. Here are some of the things that happen in this game.

Tarad Taylor and Kirk Cousins. And then this is the wildest part to me and the most embarrassing part for Atlanta. And maybe this is why we say thank you Jets. Because I think the Jets are culturally building something where the Falcons are kind of implodent. 53 seconds ago, you got the ball on your own 33. You lose the game in regulation

without going to overtime. So you give the ball back to the Jets and they find a way to beat you. This game featured A.D. Mitchell going for a Hyundai, which was awesome. Good for him. Yeah, I believe that was his first career. Not just a throw-in in the trade. If they can get something out of him, that's going to be good. And then this also had a, there was like a dead dog sally or something in this game.

I don't know what that celebration was where the guy was like the guy was like oh yeah yeah i don't know what he was doing on the ground people were saying they can't wait to use that celebration in FIFA that celebration was ridiculous dude i was okay that's the it called it i thought it was fencing posture for a second i don't know what it was dude it was it was it looked like a fish out of water no it reminded me you remember in flag football this year those kids on my my my son's team that were did this weird celebration where the kid just got on the ground and like laid there and after the game he was like yeah oh yeah that was my friend turner's dog died it's dead dead dog sally i was like and he said it like in front of

five parents i was like fucking six seven dead dog sally like you're generation who raised this generation dead fish that's dead fish is the lead though yeah i don't He was like, yeah, it was a dead dog selling. Dead dog. This is some heavy shit. I told on him to his parent. I was like, did you hear? Your kid's fucking funny, dude.

All right. Anything else on that game that you guys want to talk about? Nick Folk, those close up of Nick Folk at the end? Oh, he's just. Like, zooming in on his face. They showed about three minutes of a close-up shot of Nick. Dude, the life of a kicker is fucking kind of lonely, man. Yeah.

I don't feel bad for them at all. But. Bo doesn't either. You know, it was like Jake Moody last night. Like, going through, like, his whole, like, you go to a locker room for two weeks. Nobody gives a fuck knows you exist. Right. There's people that are like, is this a staffer?

And then all of a sudden, like, nobody asked for this. You got to kick the ball in the wind between this upright at the end of the game. And it decides whether they hate you or they love you. in this locker room. Just one thing. And then you leave two weeks later and you go to a new team. Yeah. You got to do it right.

Yeah, exactly. Hate you for the rest of your career there or love you for the next like three minutes? No, they don't even, yeah, three minutes. That's it. Yeah. That's it. I played with Nick Folk. I didn't even know he was still playing.

I was like, oh, hey. You look good. I mean, he was fine. Yeah. Hey, nice, nice kid, buddy. What? What's not? What's not?

About this game. Seeing the coaches shake hands. at the end of the game and being like, dang, that's two black coaches that are about to get fired. No. You don't think so? No, they're not firing.

Only one. The Jets are going to keep their coach? Yeah, Glenn's not getting fired. You don't think so? He's not going to. 2,000%. The owner loves that guy. The owner threw the quarterback

under the fucking quicks bus, dude. He did throw him under the bus. Yeah, and they backed over him. And that's how much he loves Aaron Glenn. Like, he was standing up for him. I think Aaron Glenn's, I'm hoping he's the guy. I love Rahim Morris, but I just, like, seriously, coolest dude ever, and he's had a great career.

I follow a Falcons fan. Yeah. They just put up stuff every week about all the different coaches that they could have had instead of Rahe Morris. Well, it sucks, man. You know, like, but they also, like, people wanted them to hire Bill, and, like, not that college outcomes have anything to do with the pros,

but, like, right now it doesn't look as, you know enticing so I don't know man I think the Falcons just need to start over and what sucks is their defense is kind of fun dude they got some young players that are pretty good and I think you don't brisk done a good you don't think 37 year old Kirk cousins can make no no and I worry about Pennix's body now like long term it's like it's it feels like almost like an inevitability so he might not even be back till well in the next season like right so it might be I know people are like Hey, you're being a little hard on the young guy. A lot of lap dances before he gets to come back.

What do you mean, bro? I mean, he's in Atlanta. I know, but he's got, like, he might be... What? You get a... He might be in a relationship, bro. He's on I are. Your relationship doesn't mean you're on I are.

You can't get a lap dance if you're in a relationship? Also, you might not want to bear weight on that. Yeah. Seriously. There's some talented girls down there, Atlanta. They can work it out for you. For sure. He beat in recovery,

Pinnick's, speedy recovery. He'll beat, bro. He's a legend no matter what, bro. That Washington year was just fucking magic. That was awesome. And you'd be hard pressed not to find somebody's got respect for him.

I'm worried about their future, Atlanta's. Okay, speaking of quarterbacks who got hurt, Justin Herbert's going to undergo surgery for a broken non-throat hand. Yeah, so, and they got the birds coming up this week, don't they? He broke it in his first.

his first offensive series yesterday yeah oh so who's their better he's fucking tough though i i thought he was a total yeah i thought he was a softy that's what everybody tells me and they do have it's they do have the eagles uh tray lance is the backup is he going to play like can you plan lands played a little bit yeah who herbert or land lance did herbert's still expected a no herbert's going to play herbert's expecting to play oh man so he's going to beat y'all with a with a fucked up off man i didn't say, I've done, stop involving me and everything Eagles. Like, I'm on the field, dude. You're the, you're the, well, fax is on the field for the Jaguars.

Yeah, but I'm also, but to be fair to me, to be fair to me, have you heard me once this year say there's a Super Bowl team? Hey, man, stop, stop caping. We're not talking about that. Let's talk in the moment. Stop caping. I'm doing the opposite. Yeah, no, let's talk in the moment.

I love to talk in the moment. Let us all feel good about the Eagles losing and talking to Chris. flog about it. But we'll get there. We'll get there. We're talking about the Russians and the Raiders. So, oh, your Super Bowl team, the Raiders? Or your AFC West Chamber 15?

I want to speak about that. He did. I did. Bro, what kind of bullshit is that? Chip Kelly? He was caught. He was forgetting the plays. What?

Yo, you were calling in wrong plays to Gino, Gino Smith? You got us mad thinking that Gino's the guy that's messing up. Imagine Reed just giving you a paper of a full of bullshit. And scribbles and jibber jabber. And you can never imagine that. No, I think you can pretty well.

I play for Terry Robiskey. I draw my own plays up. But bro, hearing that like Gino is messing up. Hearing that you're getting calls in that are messed up. Hey, is it Gino or him? Who is it? I don't know. I think that's always somewhere in the middle.

but somewhere in the middle it's always somewhere in the middle but even have that to even have that on your jacket that like hey you can't even you can't read a play and call it in correctly yeah that you're putting together yeah no it's nuts i mean the way that the raiders have been built like it's like buying a house and like the first week shit starts falling apart and you call like and they can't find uh you know any subs and it's just a disaster bro like yeah they're behind the eight ball but the nice thing is for the Raiders is like this has been a very very ethical tank it has like it really looked like it might be an on purpose thing but it's probably an accident where you're like you know we're going to establish a culture and along the way we might lose some games we're definitely not going to be a two-win

team so what did you think no you you you you check this game out the thing i in the thing i asked you you do last night was hey give us some numbers yep because we saw it in the steelers game where Aaron Rogers has a hand injury and it affects the amount of snaps they can take under center. So I think Greg Roman's got a real challenge ahead of him and how that they get to the run game. The angles obviously in the run game are different. We talk about that a lot with Atlanta, coincidentally. How are they going to be able to overcome and what are the numbers tell you about what they're going to lean into less out of the gun? Yeah, so it's really interesting without boring everybody with a bunch of numbers.

Basically, when you look at everything, all the play-calling tendencies from Greg Roman, out-of-gun versus under-center, they're basically two different offenses. So in the gun, way more pass-heavy. They're 80% pass out-of-gun, whereas under-center, 70% run. So a huge, huge disparity there, and those passes are mostly drop-back passing. Pretty much all of their play action comes from under-center. 88% of their play actions coming under center. So going from operating from the gun, they're way more pass-heavy, drop-back passing,

and the run game is mostly inside zone, whereas from under center, they're able to be a lot more balanced than their run concepts. They're able to get to outside zone. They're able to get to duo power, those kinds of things. So it's just going to be interesting to see how they're able to make that adjustment,

specifically in the run game. that's something they want to do out of the gun and then also you know being able to incorporate the play action passing element too which is something i think Herbert does really well and obviously lends well to the run game that they want to lean on um it it doesn't look like it's going to be uh necessarily a quick fix so considering the timing of this how late we are in the season um it's going to be interesting to see how to make this adjustment um yeah i got a question for you Noel. I was just going to say, have they run a lot of pistol? Because that's what you saw the approach for the Steelers, you know, on Sunday with Aaron

Rogers offhand. Not too much. Not too much pistol across the whole season. So maybe that's something they go to. Yeah, I'm just wondering if that's, they kind of, yeah, exactly. They go to a little more pistol because it feels like such a pro-style offense, you know, quarterback under center. You run the ball, boots, play actions, quarterback in shotgun, more. drop back passing. That's kind of how Greg Roman is. Just curious to see like it feels like at all points every week during this season they've had to just figure out ways to run their offensive scheme kind of, you know, fighting uphill battles because they haven't been able to do it with the personnel that they've had due to injury. So it's like just another wrinkle for them that they have to

overcome offensively to actually run their offense. Yeah, across the season. Interesting. Only 3% pistol across the whole season. So maybe that is something they go to. And obviously, like Chris is saying, you know, that would give you those kind of under-center run angles. But I think one bright spot out of this was I felt like when Herbert came back in after missing a little bit of time in the second quarter with that injury, obviously had the interception down. I think it was like third in goal. That's a bad decision. But otherwise, I didn't see his accuracy impacted in any way. And obviously the injuries with his offhand.

So, you know, that should be expected where that, you know, that. injury could manifest itself for them is ball security right you know in the pocket like deep line and everybody's going to be swiping at that thing so yeah yeah could be a chance of them takeaways things only get tougher for the uh the chargers big shout out kamani vidaldo yeah hundred and uh 46 yards on 25 carries i was wrong about him i thought he wouldn't be the answer he's the answer yeah he's becoming a nice player for them yeah yeah um oh is it time hold on one second do i have any ad reads or anything no way okay no you can go to Bermuda ad read free.

Oh, I can go to Bermuda ad read free. You know, let me stall for two seconds here, Cowboy, because I got to get you a little information. But yeah, I didn't see much of this game. But you know it's one of my favorite teams to talk about. It is the Miami Dolphins. And so with that in mind, the Bermuda Triangle, where football games disappear.

I don't know, Jim. this one might disappear welcome to the permuted triangle folks um i'm gonna take sunglasses off because i don't need them it is storming like crazy down here isn't storming down yeah okay yeah we're in a storm can you first put up the graphic that absolutely nobody fucking asked for um it it has to do with the saints being eliminated from playoff contention we figured at some point this would happen dude um that dude was on him Love it. Let's, that's a pretty good makeup.

Let's get back to the game. Yeah. This game was actually played on the outskirts of the Bermuda Triangle. When you're in Miami, if you just swim left, you are in the Bermuda Triangle. They say your character is revealed when nobody's watching. And because anybody who was actually interested in this game, stop watching after the half due to the way Shuck was playing, he has a lot of character. I like this guy's character. showed up in the second half when this game looked over with three minutes to go i think it's 19 to 11

um coincidentally the last year the dolphins were relevant um 1911 in this game when i turned on the game it's 1917 and mink of fitzpatrick's running with the football the other way somebody told me it is a two-point conversion completely fucked up football game uh and then the saints were catching three and a half points in this game. So that's a bad beat if you had that side of the ticket. There was an onside kick. I think the Saints had second and one. Was it second and one?

At the 35-yard line with one timeout to go 45 seconds. And you think they could probably get in the end zone. They can't quarterback sneak, game ends. But I thought Shuck was really good in the second half. Like honestly, I thought he moved in the pocket really well. of all the guys who kind of I've seen play this year in inopportune situations

that get spot starts he's shown me a lot of potential and you know for the fins it wasn't easy too ahead an 8.1 QBR is that bad facts is that bad yeah it sounds bad yeah it's not good

it's a scale of 100 8 hands are really a chance are really good player that's like again and again what keeps coming up when you see you know a dolphins game if you are held at gunpoint and somebody makes you watch a dolphin's game the thing i always say is a chan is a fantastic player and somebody needs to get him the fuck out of there um so i look forward to seeing him in another uniform soon um he did get drilled by a guy

named stussman stutsman wearing a fucking cowboy collar okay he's badass but anthony weaver who's one of the coolest looking coaches in the nfl his defense since what week you know 10 is like a top five defense do my eyes deceive me dude the dolphins are playing tough defense they couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag early in the season they were able to fight

their way out of this one the defense is leading the way so um they can win out and get in the playoffs I think I think mathematically it's possible but like in reality it's impossible mathematically it's possible according to the athletic it is less of a one

chance they make the playoffs yeah well okay less than 1% it's not going to happen because uh i don't think the quarterback's good enough but what they are showing me is that they have not given up on the coaching staff um and mike what you got a better chance having a baby having protected sex than making the playoffs really is that true i think so really you're telling me there's a chance really That's a good one to end on. I didn't see much of this game, but I did watch all of Shucks throws, and I thought he was pretty good, man, in the second half. So if you're a Saints fan, encouraging to see what does that mean?

I'm not really sure. Dolphins, though, you've got to win out, and I don't see that happening. One big thing that the Saints found, so groupie, or group, Blake Group, they cut him. He's been struggling this year. They found Charlie Smyth. He's been playing football since 23. He's from Northern Ireland.

He kicked a 56-yard in the rain. No problem. He also converted that helicopter onside kick to get the ball back into Saints' hands. So good for them. The onside kick, anytime I see one converted, I'm so happy. Because it just never happens.

Right. Just never fucking happens. And we need them to keep happening so people will keep trying. Right. No, I know, I know, I know. But shout out Devon Val. But Bronco, he caught that.

He was the man who... The near game winner. Yep. Or the near game Broncos legend? Is it a tire or winner? Yeah, it would have been a tire. Tire. Nick if it's a good day at the office for...

What a play. Yeah. What a fucking boy. I just want to shout out, Cam Jordan made $1.2 million on a sack, too. Not a bad day at the office. Did he really? Yeah.

He hit some incentives. Yeah. No way. And sorry, no, he got $600,000. Yep. for two sacks and then chub got 1.2 bonus for one sack so yeah good for you boys big money and and there's some good players down there not everybody gets to get on the um on that you know it's like the titanic when they get the boats and they say women and children first and jaylen phillips

gets all and the other guys are like and you know like you know what's funny it was like after the eagles the first eagles win like jaylin phillis was so hype because naturally you feel what that's like playing somewhere like that he never played somewhere like that and you know he played his ass off and oh look what happens when you're a good team you play well and people are like they notice you and they put a microphone in his face off the game is like it's the best thing it's ever happened to me and dolphins fans are so mad in him like I saw shit online about it I'm like what do you want him to say bro like the franchise has been awful right so um I feel for those guys they can fight their way out of the bermuda triangle yeah they just got to keep winning

keep winning but until then keep bumping those keep bumping that percentage up less than a percent get those numbers up yeah those numbers up uh hey can we ask you a couple thanksgiving questions yeah let's talk about thanksgiving about uh the thursday and friday games we got to go back got to go back because we hit this you and kyle talked you know recap those games a little bit but there's some you know kind of bigger bigger picture questions that we want to ask about those games too about this stuff because we haven't talked as a group so after those two games or those four games sorry which team had the best win on Thursday Friday? So I was impressed with,

I was impressed with the Bears win. Like what they did, and I will talk about this in a second, like what they did was like teaching tape in the run game. Like they, they walked into Philly. And the last time Philly was in, you know, facing a team that was in four minute mode

for like a significant portion of the game. By that, I mean like just grinding you down to a nub, multiple possessions. was San Francisco two years ago. It's been a long time. Like the Eagles have owned that place. And so to go in there and win, I don't care if I don't think the Eagles are a great football team.

Right now, currently, like I think that's an impressive win for Chicago where they were. Now, we'll talk about the run game in a second. I think the Dallas win, and it might be for nothing, they might not make the playoffs because they have like a pretty low chance to making the playoffs. They need help. They need to win.

to beat a chiefs team like that whose backs against the wall in the NFL is I mean like it felt like the end of a run I'm not saying it's over for the chiefs but like they've been remember when the Patriots won 10 straight fucking divisions like the chiefs have just been on this tear and and this year it's it it looked like hey they're probably not going to win their division but they're going to get in the playoffs right facts and they they just and I think they're better than last year. I really think the sum of the parts is better than last year, but they're not winning these one score games. And for Dallas to win the game the way they did, to get punched in the mouth at home early, and to make the plays continually over the last couple weeks, you think about the guy on the gunner getting punked. I've talked about this a few times, getting up, making the play down the field, taking the ball off the returner in the Philly game. That's not a Dallas kind of play, dude. And I think what they have now is they have an offense that if they get in, is going to be terrifying to people

because they can do two things. They can air assault you with the best of them. They have two number ones outside. They can run the football and they can also ice the game. To finish the Chiefs out where Mahomes doesn't even get one more chance, it's impressive.

It happens because of the middle of the game where Chiefs offensive line penalties and the same old shit with that team where they're not disciplined, And it feels like sometimes they're just, they're big play mining. They're too aggressive at times, impatient. Mahomes hasn't been great.

But like, Mahomes threw the ball to, I think it was Rice in the middle of the field or was it worthy and he dropped the ball on third and eight. And in that kind of game, Dallas puts such pressure on you that you can't afford to fuck up on third down. And that's the type of team you're playing.

And so they've got a lot to prove that they can be that team consistently, right? But the additions that they made on defense, including Quinn and Williams. You know why this is working so well? It's because you're getting guys that are getting one-on-ones, but these five down fronts, like, you know, all of a sudden these really good players inside

are getting the one-on-ones because of the alignment, and you've got to deal with all of them in a lot of situations. And the backers in the middle of the field, Logan Wilson, overshone. This is a good football team, and they're scary. And I think this was the most impressive win in the game. In my opinion, I thought it was Dallas. the most impressive holiday win.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'll piggyback a little bit. I mean, obviously on the Thanksgiving games, right, the winners are the Packers, the Cowboys, and the Bears. I think, I mean, you kind of have to give it to the Bears. I feel like they dominated the Eagles. Their run game, they had 281 yards rushing.

We've talked a lot about the Eagles defense and Vic Fangio and Phillips and, you know, how well some of the defensive front seven is playing. Zach Bond, you know, Jalen Carter. So I was not expecting the Cowboys, or sorry, excuse me, I was not expecting the bears to be able to rush for almost 300 yards. And just kind of the way that the bears have won some of these games with the last second heroics and things like that. Like I was a little skeptical of their, you know, I don't know, their ability to beat a team that's at the top of the NFC. And now obviously the Eagles are floundering, not playing while losing a game at home against the Bears on Blackfrey. Friday. Like it just feels like the Eagles are in the absolute fucking pits right now.

We're in the shit house. They're in the shit house. But they are a very talented team and they do have a lot of talented personnel. So I really thought that it was going to be more of a game. I didn't expect the bears at all to run, you know, run the ball like that. I was really impressed with Ben Johnson's scheme. Just they did two what? What do these dudes run for? It's like 125 for for a revenge game. We'll talk about it right now. The run the run. The run. The run. The run tape it it was like i lost myself in the thing dude i i looked up and i how many times you guys hear me last night say how fucking long is this tape it was just yeah they had 45 uh or 47 carries but i that's crazy this is what's so impressive to me is like

vangelo is a good coach and i thought not only did they out physical at times the eagles but they scheme them up. And I thought at times they attacked Nkobi Dean, you know, just to be honest. Like I thought they checked into some runs that maybe he was on the ass end of a bubble run or that sort of thing. But after a while, it was kind of like a pattern and a lot of the pre-snap motion and the eye candy, it could be something. When I talk about what's wrong with the Eagles, I can answer it by talking about the

bears. When people ask me what's wrong with the Eagles offense, you know, and I kind of touched on this last night. I feel like finally, if you had any doubts that, you know, about Jalen Hertz being consistent, like you have the cover to say it. Like, okay, when you hear me talk about Jalen Hertz, I always say he's a winner. I think he's a fantastic quarterback. I think he's a fucking winner. And what he's done, you can't take away from him. But right now I don't see him playing that well. The offensive coordinator has a big part in that. But also, it's hard to tell what came first to chicken or the egg. Why are we not running crossing routes? Why are we not

running certain concepts. Why are we not throwing the ball over the middle of the field? Why is our offense so slow? You know, you could point to past results and say, hey, in the past, it looked like X, so why doesn't it look like X right now? You know, Shane Stuyken was able to get it out of him or whatever. He also had a dynamic run game under Kellyn Moore. Like, so if you're going to compare it to the run game has been swept out from under his feet. But the point I want to make is, it's all that stuff, but it's also the intent. Whatever the cause is, whatever the root causes is, when you watch a good offense play, you notice what they're trying to do.

You're like, I see what they're doing. You know, whether it's a pre-snap indicator or like some sort of counter to a play that they ran earlier or they're attacking a certain player. I never see that with the Eagles. I just think they're running plays. And when I watch Ben Johnson's offense, it's a living organism, bro.

Yeah. And you see the intent in every movement pre-snap. And, you know, like the backers, whether it's just bumping them over a little bit, so that you can hang on the double teams a little longer which they had good success with or it's the way they use their fullback and who's playing full back you know they build like eye near and dj moore's in the backfill well guess what we're all looking at dj more he's in the fucking backfield for some reason and then they wrap him back to the flat and you got nicoby dean running like a mad dog in a meathouse

out to the flat out of the picture and reblankenship gets caught up in the thing too and there's just like countless examples of them not only, you know, putting people on public transportation and there's really bad physical reps, but there's also reps where I'm just like, damn, they scheme them the fuck up. And now you've got support players who aren't used to playing a lot, you know, like in big situations. Like, Sidney Brown's not supposed to be playing right now, right? and so, you know, the young guy from Bama, the backer, my brand, Jehahah Campbell, Jehawk Campbell, he didn't get any snaps in that game. And I didn't think the, you know, the Kobe Dean played that well in the run game.

So, you know, they've got a lot to figure out. What's wrong with the Eagles? Their offense, I'd like it to look more like the Bears offense, where it's like, I see the intention behind the things you're doing. But the other thing is, Caleb Williams is creative as fuck. and if he would fix the consistency, the accuracy on his ball, he'll take chances.

You can get out of trouble with him. I'd like to see the Eagles take more chances, man. I look at the Bears and I'm kind of like, man, there's some things I'd like you to do more like the Bears. Obviously, the personnel's... A year ago, though, that personnel was shit. Remember, they added a couple guys in free agency, right? And it really helped the interior of their offensive line.

But that ain't all of it. It's a lot of it's a scheme and how you dress it up. A lot of its scheme and just, add to some of the struggles with the run defense. They saw 28 reps of outside zone. That's the bear's bread and butter concept. Allowed 6.1. Man, listen, I got DD29. Stafford blew the game.

You don't say nothing about that. You just talk about Hertz, bro. The comparison you just made is you're excluded. Like, you can't sit at the big board table. I'm sorry, bro. You're talking with emotion, not logic, bro. I'm sorry. dude, like the Rams to me, if you think the Eagles look like a better football team right now,

I'm not doing this. This is not, this isn't WIP, dude. I'm sorry. On the other hand. Go cry somewhere else. Yeah, on the other hand, yeah. Yeah. AJ Brown, 35 points in fantasy. Right. Like, we should be happy about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just think it's funny, just like, I like to troll the Eagles. Like, what do you do about it? I know you do, but it's like, listen, listen. What do you do about that just like as a fan watching?

and seeing all this stuff go on with AJ and see, like, when he does have a good statistical game, like an amazing game, you guys lose. And then the games that they're winning, like he doesn't necessarily seem like he's contributing to the stat. The problem is the consistency. And again, like, you know, people only hear the quarterback's name, which is the problem.

It's become such a narrative-driven fan base where, you know, like, everything is so emotional. It's, I took a side on this, I took a side on this. You know, like an offense, again, is an organism. The quarterback matters, you know, and the quarterbacks exist on the scale of being guys that you can win in spite of, win because of, win with. And I think, you know, Jalen Hertz exists somewhere between you can win because of and you can win with.

He's not a win in spite of guy, but the way he's playing right now is winning in spite of. And that's perfectly fair to point out. That's perfectly fair to point out. And Kevin Petulow is getting plenty of fucking heat, dude. So let's not act like we're not giving the coordinator the heat. I've seen videos on Instagram where they're playing farcee music and they're interspersing video of Saddam Hussein over Kevin Petulow, dude. So it's like, don't worry.

He's getting his and he should. But the point I'm making about chicken or the egg is like I don't know what Jaylon's unwilling to do. Jalen likes playing conservatively. And that's been very good in some situations when your offense is running the ball for 200 yards a game. And yes, you can say, hey, they take shots outside the numbers. Well, I fucking would too. They got two of the best receivers in the league, and Jalen's a fantastic deep ball thrower outside the numbers.

I want to see the other stuff. And I'm not the only one who thinks this way. And I'm also going to mention the offensive line. You notice we're mentioning everybody, but there aren't Stoutland fucking stands in the chat going, well, you don't talk about Jeff Stoutland like that. It's a results-based business. And the offense has not performed well,

and everybody has a hand in it, including the QB. And if you don't think that, WIP, but WIP's on it too. So, you know. This is random. There's a stoutland Pokemon. Is there really? Yeah. But here's the point.

We talk a lot about the Eagles. The reason we talk about the Eagles after a loss like this is we set the standard. When you come out of a season where you win the Super Bowl, we dealt with the same thing to a lesser degree because we weren't as good a team. We started four and six and people wanted to kill us. And I didn't blame them because we set that standard, dude. So they just got to play up to their standard. They're still a good football team.

They're still a team that teams probably rather not play from a personnel standpoint. But they don't scare people like they did last year. And that's just the reality. So what can you do to fix it? It would start with running the ball. It would start with when there's a hot. You hit it versus the blitz. It's a team game.

So yeah, when Nate's like, hey, you're not going to talk about the Eagles. like hey the problem is if we start the show talking about the eagles i'm going to go for 25 minutes and every other fan base is going to leave the chat dude because i get fucking worked up about it because i think they can be a lot better i do you know it's okay they can't be chris one thing that i want to mention too you talked about how he doesn't even know what to say he's conservative it's okay what is that stand on business bro i am i just think it's funny and i and i love how passionate you get talking about the eagle it's just obviously you want them to do well and just watching the game like that like I was watching this game and I was at I was at my girl's house

for Thanksgiving and I was just like Chris's head is probably about to explode watching this game and just stick no because I really have divorced myself emotionally like it's easy to get caught up in the emotion when you know your team's going to the Super Bowl but also too for me you're realist you're realist you're realist you're like you're understand and you watch football, but it's really that, like, coming in here and knowing, like, the fans and how emotional fans get about certain stuff, I know how much is going to get you worked out. Well, that's the moment.

That's the moment that people need to hear, which is that, like, this is me breaking the, what is it the fourth wall or one of the walls where as the content creator, like, I cover every team. Yeah. The elephant in the room is me and Bo play for the Eagles. So, like, we're going to talk about the Eagles. And we have a lot of people who are Philly fans to the point where people call us homers. Yeah.

But if you listen to the way I analyze the Eagles games, I'm not a homer. Like, to me, the harder thing this year has been not telling what I think is the truth. Yeah. Which at times would be construed as hate or construed as negativity or like whatever. And I think what's also awkward for me is I was only there two years. And so like I don't want to wear out my welcome. I feel you. You know what I'm saying?

Just as a former player where it's like, who the fuck is this guy thinking is Hugh Douglas? who was here his whole career or something like that. Who is he talking about the Eagles every week like that? He can't take a shot at the quarterback. He can't take a shot at the offense. I don't want to be that guy. I want to break it down fair. I think you do a great job.

I want to break it down fair on the guys. I think you do a great job at it. Yeah. It is fun when the Eagles lose. I don't know. It's fun for the whole country. And that's the reality of having a target on your bag and winning a Super Bowl is motherfuckers are going to hate you.

That's true because it's fun watching the Kansas City Chiefs lose too. Like it's the cheves. It's the cheves. The cheves and the Eagles and the Cowboys are probably the one thing they had to do the Eagles have to win this game Monday night. Yep. If the Eagles don't win this game Monday night, it starts looking like. It's already starting to look like 23, 23, in a different form, you know, which calls it to question a lot of other stuff. I texted during the game.

I was like when the Bears run game was rolling like it was, it felt to me like Eagles fans were members. the at the end of 23 when Arizona came to the Cardinals. Oh my God. And it did feel that way. But even in that game, they weren't in four minutes because when I went back to look at that stat, the last time was two years ago. It's just a, it's an unprecedented takeover in this era of Eagles football for a team to come in and out physical them like that and be kneeling on the ball at the end of the game

like that. Right. The other thing I want to bring up and then we're going to move on is, and I said this in my live stream last night, and this is the way I feel about the quarterback thing. just so nobody misunderstands me the frustration i have with doing this job sometimes when analyzing quarterbacks is this they were fantastic last year and on the biggest stage jalen was fucking nails which is why i love him and why i call him a winner if i was in philly and somebody stopped me in the street in september it was like gun to your head who's the top five quarterbacks in the league

and i said well you know the usual suspects man like i you know just to be fair to aggregate all these years I'd probably put my homes up there. I put Josh Allen up there. I'd put Burrow. I'd put Lamar. I'd put Stafford. And I'd say there's some guys knocking the door. There's some guys who, and I'd be dead before I could finish my sentence.

Because somebody would have shot me in the head. And I'm obviously exaggerating here. There's some people who are kind of dense and they're going to be like, what's he talking about gun violence? What I'm talking about is just how emotional we get in analyzing the game when it comes to our favorite team. The true. It is okay that. Jaylen's not one of the best four quarterbacks in the league right the point is you have to build

responsibility around most quarterbacks in the league there are your anomalies like baker mayfield who are not elite but somehow find a way with a different fucking guy every year and that's controlling for all hires being similar right he's had some good offensive coordinators you have to build correctly around this kind of quarterback he's a he's a franchise quarterback yeah but you can't just roll the fucking ball out there with another homegrown coordinator who strikes out and expect him to be great. Right. So I don't know what you're doing this situation.

And now I'm throwing shit because I'm pissed off. I think just to add to that, you know, earlier the win because of versus win with, versus win in spite of. I think every quarterback to some extent is a system quarterback. Every quarterback has the system that their skill set is perfectly fit for.

And I think as you slide down that scale from win because of to win with, when in spite of, that system fit becomes more important. Yes. Like those elite top five guys, they kind of transcend scheme to a certain extent. You can plug them in a lot of- Wherever. It's around the league.

But as you move down, that system fit becomes more important. I think that's kind of what we're. And obviously, and just back to my buddy, D.D., he said, here's the problem, Chris Long. I love it when people call me by my full name. You can tell they're totally reasonable people. You said Tampa Bay is going to be great when they get their injured players back. Eagles have money, have money injuries, more injuries, I assume you mean. You have no slack for them.

getting their players back. If you think the Bucks and the Eagles have the same amount of injuries this year, again, show yourself the door, bro. I don't know what to tell you. And also, no one said the Bucks are going to win the Super Bowl. Again, they're two different standards for two different teams. If you want Bucks standards, go ahead. If you want Bucs standards, they lost in the fucking wildcard game last year.

Eagles won the Super Bowl. It was just such an awful game Thursday. those guys going to bat for this i'm like what do we doing bro at times you they're not gonna dude they were never going to be friends with you right you don't have and and that's sometimes the problem with the media is like we don't tell the truth sometimes because we're worried that it get back to somebody and somebody you respect might not like you like i'm not trying to disrespect anybody they're just not playing well right just not playing well and fuck dude i like i'm gonna be in philly for a charity event this this uh tuesday evening tomorrow night and like i don't want to run into

a guy and be shitting on the team like but i just got to be honest and they know that they got a championship dna they they're not happy with what's going on so um any more things oh i got a shout out to packers man that was impressive as fuck i thought matt lafleur called a great game i thought jordan played a great game i thought they showed why when they're when they're at their best what you just accused me of saying about the the the bucks i truly feel about the packers when they get jaden reed back They're as good as any team. Like you talk about threats to the Rams and the Seahawks. They're looking like it.

Yep. And Wix had a huge game, pro. Big time. That catch of the end. Oh, with one shoe. Incredible. One shoe. So we don't have to go forever on that thing.

And again, I don't think the lions are like cooked or anything. I just think they've rejoined the pack a little bit. No pun intended. And they have the Packers' 91% chance to make the playoffs. Bears are at 77 lines down to 30%. there at 7 and 5 bears at 9 to 3, Packers 8, 3 and 1. Our last Thanksgiving question, who are you more confident in winning out

between the Chiefs or the Bengals? And I'm going to preface this with a recent quote from Andy Reid. This is from today's press pool. He said, we're going to try to tickle your tonsils on every play, every game. That's the attitude we're coming in with. Golly. He's taking a little page out of that. Out of Ponsol.

Dan Campbell's playbook. That's crazy. Is that like a deep throwing quote or something? I don't think he means he's going to deep throat. Well, I mean, I mean. I don't think it means. Dude, the guy, he has a, you're going to punch him in the throat, maybe.

I don't know. He has a Civil War mustache, dude. He's not with it, dude. Like, the things he says are, I don't know. Yeah, it's a throwback saying, dude. I don't know what it means. some things old people say you just got to be like yeah i loosely understand you say about the glory you know not all of this is going to be sunshine and glory holes

close to zero uh i can answer this question if we want boys if we want to talk about glory holes and deep throw and i can do that too wow who my more confident with winning out kC or cincinnati i want to say Casey just because they've been there before and I feel like their backs against the wall. And I can't really remember the last time it felt like it was do or die for the Cheves. But I took a look at their schedule. Upcoming, they have the Texans who are proven to be pretty good, especially defensively. The Chargers, Titans, the Broncos and the Raiders. And so I'm going to say the Bengals actually, I have more confidence in them winning out because, like,

they have some elite playmakers on offense. It seems like their defense has been playing a little bit better with the hope that someone like Joey B can provide. I'm more confident in them winning out. They got the bills. I love the Bengals how they match up offensively against the Bill's defense. And then the Ravens who are, you know, honestly, I don't think very good right now. Dolphins, Cardinals, and Browns. So I actually truly have more confidence in the Bengals winning out, which is wild for me to say.

Yeah, I showed these guys two schedules last night, blind schedule comparisons. And, you know, to a man, they were like, yeah, I'd take the first one. That was the Bengals schedule down the stretch. If they win this weekend, and that's not the biggest if in the world because they're playing Buffalo. Okay. Like, if they win this weekend, it's going to get kind of interesting because it is possible. It is possible for them to win out. And from what I see, if you put the Bengals, the Ravens, and the Steelers and a round Robin who you think would win right now, it's kind of silly, dude.

And the hole's huge, but, I mean, there is a chance. We're giving these other teams chances. I just think the Chiefs, man, the Chiefs aren't you, they can't win a 35, 38 game right now. It just feels like, and that feels like what the Bengals major in. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Do you trust that defense in Cincinnati to be more like what they did in Baltimore? Like, are they going to play that way?

Well, no, I do. I trust them. I don't know if I trust them. I love our guy Al Golden and I want him to succeed. But there's a lot of young guys on that group, which also means, though, that, like, guys could take little jumps. You hear about the rookie wall, but the thing they don't talk about enough

is guys that have epiphany late in the season where it's just like, okay, I'm starting to get the game. And maybe there's a guy or two like that. They've had really good safety play. They've been doing this without any pass rushers. Al's finally dialing up the blitz a little bit more. But the biggest thing is you get Joe Burrow back.

The thing I notice about their offenses, hey, they've been scoring a lot of fucking points, but he can move. And that's coming off turf toe. Like just think about some. some of the conversions they have where he scrambles and it gets them the back breaking penalty. You know, or he can just pick something up. I used to talk about his mobility, kind of like a sped up Tom Brady in the pocket.

And I don't mean from like an accomplishment standpoint. I mean like a mobility standpoint and an awareness for the pocket. That really helps. And as a year is going on, they've got more out of the run game. So they're dangerous one week at a time, but they've really got a stringed together. Neither of these two teams I'm terribly confident in. but I would be more confident angles. Yeah. And it

be pretty fun. You know, last year they went on that run at the end of the season. They barely missed out on the playoffs. We had that disappointing shot of Joe Burrow, week 18, watching the Broncos game, I think, or whatever game, hoping that they would lose to get knocked out. I think he's 8 or 9 and 0 since a certain point

last year. Week 14? Yeah, and so you want to know can they win a bunch in a row? Like, yeah, they can't if he's quarterback. Yeah. They're literally currently I wasn't smoking crack rock when I did when I picked them to win the division. I really believe that their offense could be good enough to overcome how bad their defenses. Because look at the other fucking teams in the division, dude.

Crack is still in? Allegedly. Fence he asked. Yeah, it does depend, I think. um two teams on the grill one team's getting off so anyways that's that we we promise you would give you a heavy dose of thanksgiving let let's get to the uh the ring ring the zone locals landline you're gonna hear from zone right now um warning this product contains nicotine which is nicotine is an addictive chemical underage sale prohibited please if you're under 21 just

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I can't drink coffee. I don't know what I'd do without the pillows sometimes. All right. First call, we got a Steelers fan. Ring ring. Chris, I'm really fucking sad right now, dude. I turn this fucking Steelers game off in the beginning of the fourth quarter,

and right now I'm just laying in my bed, staring at the ceiling, listening to some really, really, really sad country music right now. Shout out Stephen Wilson, Jr. Son but dad, tremendous of them. This is as conflicted as I've ever been on Mr. Mike Tomlin being the head coach of my favorite football team.

But God damn, brother. I just fucking can't do it anymore. Like, I don't know how I'm going to wake up on one day. I have to go to fucking work. Fuck that. I just hope they get the quarterback right, even if they keep Tomlin. I'm just...

Fuck, dude. I'm... really fuck this shit fuck by way my name is joel martina i'm from yuma arizona goodbye it's interesting that he's as sad as he is and the team is tied for first in the division record wise because he knows ball yeah he knows what's watching tape seeing what's coming he's seen what's coming um is there any hope for i hope that guy's doing okay we just talked about how the bengals we want the bagels to run the table. Is any hope for Joe?

I hope. Oh, for Joe Burrow? No, for our friend. Oh, for Joe and, no. There's less hope for Joe in, you. Yuma? Arizona.

He's in Yuma? I don't know if he was in Yuma. Where did he say? Arizona. Don't go, don't play the whole thing again. Yeah, yeah. They booed renegade yesterday. I'm from Yuma, Arizona.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you know that movie 310 to Yuma? Yep. Yeah. Great movie. Yeah. It's crazy out there.

Stay safe, man. You got people running around, shooting people outside the saloon. Be safe out there in Yuma. All right. Next one. What's up, guys? Love the show. Congrats, Dr. Fax on your Jags, I guess.

I guess, he said. Good luck in the playoffs. That's all the day. I just want a real question from you, DBs and things, but where the hell are the Vikings go? Kevin O'Connell's supposed to be this QB. Awesome guy, you know, the whisperer, they say. Well, he's learned to adapt and play call according to his talent. You can't do that.

I know you guys got questions, being Eagles fans and all. But, uh, yeah, how does KOC fix it? Where are the Vikings at? Honest questions, that's all I got to say. I want to say go birds just for you guys, but that's not true. Somehow I'm happy the Bears beat you in their in my division. They've been eating shit for the last 40 years. So whatever.

How are the Vikings doing? How do the Vikings? Thanks, guys. Their situation. Their offense. They don't. They're not going to fix this situation. There's nobody in the building.

The 26 NFL draft. Yes. I mean, and I don't know college football. So is it a lot of great draft. 2027 is the draft. You know, they could, Mac Jones, we've talked about Mac Jones. Mac Jones are Aaron Rogers.

There's your best, your best show. Tyler. Funny thinking about this? Jacoby Brissette. Jacob Berset. This is the Band-Aid. He's the Flex Seal for anybody. Hey, this is the Vikings.

We're calling the Cardinals. Can we get a quarterback? Oh, yeah, we'll send you, Calais. No, no, no, the other one. Yeah. It's so funny thinking about, like, even talking about college quarterbacks. You remember tanked for Tua?

Yeah, oh, yeah. Yeah. Remember well. They really tanked for Tua. Bro, it's, but it's hard. It's hard to, it's hard to figure it out, man. Yeah. If it was easy.

There's no way, but it's just like when you start something like tank for Tua, it's like, oh, we know. But it wasn't, at least they didn't like tank for Josh Rosen or something. You know what I mean? Like, Tua had some really productive years. Like you almost were able to build the offense up around him, but nobody could have kept that set up going. I don't know.

It was the question. Can you fix the Vikings? I don't know, man. you should be used to it by now and I don't mean that to be mean I'm just saying like you guys are used to the heartbreak man the heartache

um you got one more call ring ring ring ring did the drunk guy at dirty Nellies leave a message he forgot probably he said he was going to yeah no not you have a good hey guys uh this is a Greg

calling from right here in Charlotte Phil have a bit of a marital dilemma for you guys. So I am a Chicago Bears fan. My wife, Steph, is a diehard Eagles fan. And we just got done watching the game. And we had a little bit riding on this particular game. So we have three dogs. One dog, our pit bull, has an Eagles jersey. Our hound dog, Indiana, has a Bears jersey. He looks just as sad as I do when I put it on. But we got a third dog, and we weren't sure what fandom our German Shepherd was going to have. And so going into the season, we bet when this head-to-head matchup happened,

that whoever won the game, that was the jersey we were going to get for our dog. my wife is kind of trying to welch on the bet here, even trying as much as saying she'll buy me a bottle of malort in order to not have to subject Freya to, you know, the embarrassment of being a bear's fan, which I get, I get, but a bet's a bet. So I just wanted to see what you guys thought of the situation, how you'd handle it, and any advice would be very welcome. them. But otherwise,

bear down, baby. Listen, man. That's a bet. Laced that dog up with a Caleb Williams jersey. Yeah. Yeah. Amen, brother. Get him a little burden, man. That's a bet. Honestly, I mean, like, and if you start, here's the thing,

there's a lot of guys in relationships that say, like, you've got to play the game. You got to, you know, you got to pick your battles. You got to, fuck that, dude. Do what's fair. Whatever happened to what's fair. and if your wife makes a bet with you she's got to pay up well because you would too how about we think about the dog here put that dog in a patch jersey that quarterback's really good yeah no exactly

you might want to like give that dog like the fandom that it deserves yeah telescope out 10 years and by the way can that dog do any tricks because my brother had a german shepherd could run up the side of a tree like it wasn't a dog that i like felt great vibes about like hanging around Shout out to bear. It wasn't like, you know, I was like, but boy, could it do some fucking cool tricks? I'm sure yours can too. No, I know. I thought about that too.

Maybe it just needs to be an NFL dog, you know, like Rob Lowe. We just get him the hat and the, you know, NFL logo. Just give him the. Yeah, give him the Rob Lowe. Yeah. But whatever you do, don't cave, man. Because if you cave on this thing, then you're going to set the precedent that you cave on everything. You're going to have an Eagles fan, an Eagles flag outside your head.

house. Yeah. Which would be okay. I like seeing them around here, but like, thanks for listening. Okay. And then we're heading into the BetMGM moments, but before I love it. Before that, what's a word from BetMGM? Oh, word from BetMGM? Well, it's hard to say because I don't see the... It's the same one as the first one. It's the same one as the first one. As the football season rolls on, BetMGM continues to have you covered. It's giving you. you another chance that first touchdown scores with betmgm's second chance promotion you'll get your stake back in cash if your first touchdown score ends up scoring second instead bet on any pro football player to score the first touchdown of the game if you're right you cash your bet if your player's

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Yeah. And we control, we kind of control our own destiny now sitting at first place. So it feels good. Best flight. Bo. Best flight. Oh, best flight. Chicago Bears, Black Friday.

I think it was like a 3 p.m. game or something like that. Get a little bit of a long holiday weekend going back to Chicago, not too long. Also, you are, you know, in top for the NFC North. You see you watch the Packers beat the Lions, you know, on Thanksgiving, flying back to Chicago, a couple days off, maybe a victory Monday. Ben Johnson takes his shirt off. Maybe he left it off on the flight. That'd be kind of fun. That's flight bearers.

Bear down. Bear down. Who's up next? No. I'm going with the Packers. Complete the sweep of the Lions in their own house. But really good football on both sides. Obviously, you're going to get Jayden Reed back soon.

They're kind of hitting a good inflection point here. Sunday's going to be an absolute war against the Bears. That's been an awesome game. I'm going to give mine to the Navy midshipman football team. When they're not preparing to serve our country, they're playing football in their free time. And on Thursday, on Thanksgiving, they beat Memphis. They usually take boats. But in this situation, they put them on a plane to get them home for Thanksgiving meal.

I think that's got to be a pretty good plane ride, right? You know, like, I'm not usually in a plane. I'm in the Navy. and we're going to go home and eat some what do you head whip around like that? They take boats to the game? Mostly. Is that serious?

Yep. Interesting. It takes forever. They got to, they got to, they got to take the Mississippi. You got to hope the city. They got to go down to the Panama Canal.

Man, hopefully it's a port city. Dude, honestly, when they played, when they played, When they played, who was it, like, U-Dub, they had to do the Magellan route. They left like three months before the game. That's what the equipment tracks do, right?

When they got to go to games with us country, they're going to a month early, right? I love our armed forces. I love them all. Definitely not a lot. but that's crazy bro that bear's flight i want to be on that bear's flight give me that bear's flight i could oh yeah well you weirdo no no i i was about to say i'm good you know i'd love for ben to keep his shirt on but you know for the flight but heck sense gonna hit you with a javelin missile yeah that's very fucked up you didn't get into military dude kill them all

you didn't get to the game ball they can have the game ball recycle them for the people. Worst flight. Worst flight. I'll start it. Okay. I can start it. We saw that caller calling about the Minnesota Vikings. Not a lot of hope there. Worst flight. You get

shut out in Seattle all the way on the west coast. You've got to fly back to Minnesota from Seattle. Pretty hopeless. So hopeless, in fact, that one of your top offensive players over the last 10 years or whatever, Adam Thielen asked to be released, kind of an interesting scenario there.

Can't imagine that was a good flight. Specifically for Adam Thielen, who was a healthy scratch, your offense doesn't score any points, and you're just considering your entire career, he said that he wanted to try to go somewhere else. That's a contender. That's how bad it was in Seattle for the Vikes. So bad flight, long flight, tough flight.

I got people in the comments saying, fun fact, the Navy has a ton of planes. I think the Navy is like the second biggest Air Force in like you know in the world we know hey struck gold bro get on the boat

get on the boat all right worst flight got to be the cheves ooh cheves cheves chiefs must win on Thanksgiving

they drop that one now you're staring down the barrel of a potential January vacation mecanos going to mechinos they got to win out the rest of the way

Nate worst flight that was going to be my worst flight I'm going to piggy you. I know. So you jumped you. Yeah, you jumped it. You jumped it.

Jumped her out. Because you got to think about it as a player right now. Like people aren't thinking about this, but all their significant others are like, yes, they're not going to make the playoffs. We get to leave for vacation early this year, guys. I don't think anyone, any significant others thinking that. I'm just going to say it. There's no chance.

What are you're going to split on that? Absolutely they are. He's mad. Because they're thinking about it the other way, knowing. Usually when the team is going to make the playoffs, like, damn, I got to go to this game, we got to travel to this game. Now you don't got to do that when your team's not in the playoffs. All you guys have to do is worry about that beautiful wedding. Everyone's going to get to go to.

But you don't think they like going to the games? Over having your choice of going wherever you want. I know, but like at the games, you can wear a bedazzles. You can go wherever you want after the playoffs are over and you win the Super Bowl and you get that extra playoff money and you get those playoff checks. And then you celebrate and go crazy. But we all know the people, those extra playoff checks is what, $10,000 for certain guys? I know, but that could be like a, um, a Berkin bag. Blow it on vacation.

Come on, man. That's what people buy their sake of others. No one's wife is being like, oh, we're not making the playoffs. Hell yeah. No chance. It's not. It's not. Hell no.

Really? Yeah. Bro. What are these dudes doing out here, bro? Yeah, they don't want the, the $10,000 burking, not going to get you no, no skins. That's crazy. It is crazy. Crazy world.

Where's flight? Yeah. I'll go Wyoming. They played Hawaii at 8 p.m. Hawaii time. I don't know if it's Hawaii time or what time it was, but it was like one of those fucking 11 o'clock games, basically like your chase-a-thon games on a Saturday night.

That's a 3,000-mile flight. That's like a 3,000-plus mile flight in the middle of the night. You had to go to Hawaii. And here's the worst part about being on that flight is you have to leave Hawaii. to go back to Laramie. That's why it's the worst flight. There's a low of eight degrees today. It's sunny and eight degrees in Laramie, Wyoming,

and you leave Honolulu, Hawaii. A lot of those guys, seriously, when we went to play Wyoming, senior year and got our asses kick. We were getting our asses kicked by a bunch of ranchers, bro. Some of the homies had not been off the ranch. You know, Laramie was like the furthest they'd been. So you take somebody who's never seen a beach

and take them to Hawaii. They get thumped and they're like, sorry, you can't stay. I would transfer on the spot, dude. I would start a fucking black Angus farm in Honolulu, Hawaii, bro. I wouldn't go back to the ranch. That game kicked off at 11 p.m. Eastern, that's 6 p.m. Hawaii time. That is 100% the worst flight. You have to leave.

That's a brutal flight, dude. Oh, that sucks. That sucks. Guys are still tired today. Bevel Conway. Hmm. The most beautiful scene, Bebel Conway. gotta give it to the Chicago Bears running backs.

Two running backs rushing over 100 yards on Thanksgiving against the Eagles. I mean, what's better? The game was on Black Friday. What's Black Friday Thanksgiving while everyone was. I know what you're doing. I know what you're doing now. What is that? It really is a good strategy.

What is that? You're trying to be the Eagles, like Stephen A. Smith is. to the Cowboys, you're trying to be that to the Eagles. On this show? No, I just feel like... Oh, my God, I just hit it. I just feel like you guys take any chance you can to... You need a prop like Stephen A., dude.

You need a prop. It's all I'm saying. I'm just trying to strengthen your... I'm trying to strengthen your stick. You need a prop. No, but I fuck with A.J. Brown. Like... A.J. Brown, 35 points. Fantasy.

You like him because he... Let's go. You're an agent of chaos. He's an agent of chaos. He's laughing at all because we said it. I figured it out. Oh, man. He's studying Stephen A. Smith tape at home.

I mean, we love... Mark from cutups. You love watching... Mark Kelly, what are you doing? The audacity! Oh my God. Oh, man. Eagles.

Okay. All right. My Bevel, Chargers, Navy Blues. They're beautiful uniforms. Being a darker color has that kind of slimming effect that the black uniforms do as well. Boys look great out there. Boy, boy, did they. Boy did they.

Oh, I got a, you think that's bad. I got a worse one. What's the? Bebble Conway, Ben Johnson, getting shirtless. showing everybody. Hell yeah. Treadmill and does P90X saying, hey, not only am I going to take my shirt off, I'm in shape, relatively speaking, for somebody his age, and I'm going to do something that's going to make Chicago love me.

Dude, Liam Cohen would never take a shirt off in the locker room. The owner would tell him he had to lose weight. Dude, look at him. You look at him. Look at him. He did like extra push-ups before. Look at him.

He's hype. But the players are hyped too, and Chicago fans are hyped, and that's why it's a Bevel Conway. This is the kind of post-game locker room scene. that's either going to become a meme or it's going to be the beginning of something great in Chicago. And I kind of lean a little bit more towards the beginning of something great. I do. If you said, Chris, what's going to be? Is this going to be a meme in a year? Are we going to be like, oh, fuck, dude, we got something special. Coach, taking his shirt off,

dudes are hyped, you know? I'll tell you this. You can bet your ass if the Packers win this week will floor shirtless in the locker. Oh, for sure. That would be incredible. That would be incredible. That would be incredible. They'll do it on the field for the post game interview. That's how it won't happen. Dude, but Bears fans are like in, dude. They're all in. They're all in.

And you know what? I will say this. Ben Johnson's personality has come out doing this job. Where like last year you saw him as almost this like, like he's central casting. I don't want to say it. But like he's, he's a guy who's supposed to not have any emotion. Like, and, and, and then he comes to Chicago. And as the team starts to have some.

success you can kind of see his his kind of fingerprint on the personality aspect of it it's fun to watch man i got i got a stall for a second on anti-bevel you guys can uh well we got i got a bevose oh you got a bevel my bad bro yeah i got a little bevel anti-bevel combo here so i can start it uh anyway my bevel conway is rivalry week it was an axe game so the minnesota golden gophers are playing the wisconsin badgers a game i went to it was a snow game uh so it's just kind of fun. You know, this is a big rivalry. It was a big one for me. I went four and oh against the golden gophers. Here's a photo I said to Cowboy, but it was snow. It was like 15 degrees. It was cold. It felt like a big 10 game, a classic matchup between these two teams. It's kind of fun to be there

in person. First time I was at that stadium since I played there. So I enjoyed that. And now, let me get into my anti-bevel Conway, which is the fact that the gofers came away with Paul Bunyan's axe. I'm incredibly butt hurt about it. There was a stretch where Wisconsin Badger football dominated the gophers and I longed for that time. That was a good time. Like I said, I was 4 and 0 against the gophers. Take a lot of pride in that. I did not like to see them charge, chop down the goalposts with the ax. And also the fans rushed the field after the game, which I thought was just really stupid.

Like, we're not a good football team. Yeah, I'm just kind of butt hurt about the whole thing. So that's my anti-bevel as well. PJ Flex still coaches there? Oh, yeah. Row. Row the boat. Damn, they rode their boat on you.

That's got to be. They're pretty embarrassing. Must be hard to watch them lose their rival. I don't have to do that a lot. I'll give an anti-brival. Mine was that specialist graphic the Vikings put out yesterday. I mean, it stopped in the Twitter scroll. I was like, who are these guys?

But then I sent in the group tag, and I was like, this is the canary in the coal mine that's about passing for this offer. Saying these are our stars today. These are the guys we need to ball out. Brutal. That was bad vibes to see that Sunday morning. That is awful.

Yo, Justin Jefferson woke up and checked his Twitter. I was like, what the fuck? I'm not getting the ball at all today, dude. Yeah, and he didn't. He had like two catches for like 15 yards or something like that. Didn't get a catch until the third quarter. You know what's funny? That's going to be my anti-bevel con.

is Justin Jefferson's stat line because it should never be like that. No, I shouldn't. And they got to find a quarterback to do something or hand him the ball off or I don't even know what you can do at this point, but to have one of the best, if not

the best, wide receiver in the league on your team and he's having stat lines like this, that's an anti-Badwell Conway. Because it's like you said, in the age we live in, these young kids are going to start saying Justin Jefferson is trash. I know, these little kids

who just play fantasy. I had to, like, explain to my kids the first time. You know, like, when they were talking about, like, Jamar Chase or something, I was like, bro, you realize

a reason he's not catching the ball? Yeah. It's because of the guy, two quarterbacks ago, three quarterbacks ago there, Browning. My son walked in when we were watching a Vikings game,

and he was like, what did he call? Boosmer. He goes, I'm so over Boosmer. Me too. Me too. Me too.

So is just. So is, So is Justin Jefferson. He's like, how do you say it? We're like, we're going with that now. Yeah. Boobsmer. Boobsmer.

Chris Anti-Bebel. Who, anti-Bel. I guess I'll go with Aaron Rogers' face. That's beautiful. But I don't mean he's just like a hideous person. I just mean like, man, that's a bad deal, bro. These new memes keep dropping. It's a great.

Aaron Rogers' memes are like legendary, bro, where you had the one where he was, like young but he was in pain in green bay like he was like yeah let me ask you something it looks like he looks like an alien's because you know the movie alien like a sigernie weaver situation is going on like let me ask you say if you came home from a game like this like what do you what do you assume the first thing your wife would say to you yeah what does your non-existent wife say to you after a game with this and i did add she was probably concerned with him when it happen like you see your husband like with blood streaming out of his nose like is that what are you what would my wife say my wife would be like thanks for being a fucking warrior man is what she

would say thanks for thanks for taking care of a business for the family you know oh man um that knows bevel conway was ben jonson anti bevel chustin jefferson stat line that was yeah that's gross It's a nasty thing. Best seat. No, I just looked at Nate through his left ear, dude. Crazy. I'm looking at Reed through my right here. No, I know.

Mez Reed's stick. Specialist. He's just, he's just. You know why? Fred the ball around. We might need to have the fans vote on me. Wait, because no one's not slick. He'd be really trying to have some good moments to try to sweep.

Yeah. Not today. We got to put the poll up in the chat. I like that idea. Yeah, that's good. Reed's like, fuck you, man. He's like, yeah, he's like, give me the power.

I could start us out for best if we're ready for it. Go ahead. I'm ready. My best seat, best seat is one-handed catches in the NFL over the weekend. There were some fucking sweet ones, man. Obviously, last night with Birx, the Washington. It's a good time to be one-handed in the NFL.

I guess that's kind of what I'm saying. All right. How about that? we had a sick catch from puka one-handed brock bowers had a great one-handed catch that's a good thing trailing burks it must feel good for him

are those guys sitting look it must feel good for oh no maybe best feet is odell the best feet should have been odell yeah because all the one-handed matches and anytime there's a one-handed catch because he gets to be on TV

they have to say it's good for his no that's good you guys should workshop you guys are like Like, we should definitely workshop together. Fax and the King. Yeah, shout out to Fax and the King. Exactly. Bring it back.

Fax the King. Yeah. Oh, man. My best seat is going to Mariah Carey because it is December 1st. And guess what, guys, for the next 25 days, we will be hearing all I want for Christmas. Which she makes $2.1 million dollars off a row of a row. royalties every single year off of this one song. So, Best Seat is going to Mariah Carey.

Damn, that's sick, bro. When it hits December, you just got to know, like, just seeing that royalty, money, tracker, whatever it is, just seeing that song, just get played. Every department store you're in, it's playing. And she kind of controls the month of December when you think about music and holiday music. She really does. This is on the playlist. Or it's like it can't not be on the playlist somewhere.

It's a little too high energy for me. It's a little like something that you would hear on a commercial. Obviously it's been commercialized heavily. Heavily. I just particularly remember being young and having to go to Macy's with my mom. It's like a shopping dog whistle, dude. Yeah. And you hear that song at least three or four times and you don't realize it that it's,

hey, is this song like playing a repeat? Man, that's awesome. Yeah, best seat, Mariah Carey. Yeah, it got me in the mood there. Best seat. Best seat, your boy right here. This is my Saturday night. We had an outdoor viewing experience for the Hokies and the Wahoos.

And I posted this the other day on IG and I said, I didn't feel real 0 and 4, which I was against Virginia Tech. But I didn't feel real 0 and 4 sitting by the fire with a hokey bird in the friar. You can see if you enhance a little bit. That's the unlucky bird there. That was when it was 7-0 in the first quarter. the bird went in the fryer right after kickoff i guess that was maybe the second quarter 15 pound bird 55 minutes 350 how was it pretty good didn't get salmonella nice some of the food handling ahead of the the the fact was called into question by some of my friends but um once you fry it

it's fine yeah once you fry it's all good that's the way i feel about it we had a good time man it was great me and the boys just sitting around the fire watching that game i would have definitely been at the game, but to be honest, I'd just rather be there. You know? Got to go to Dirty Nellies after the game. It was awesome. Some of you really wanted to do. I think Nolan's going to win this one, though. Oh yeah. It's about to start the show. Best seat. Ricky from Roxbury and myself watching the Texas Longhorns. Rickie from Rock. Win the Lone Star Showdown over the Aggies this weekend, electric environment. Nolan wins best seat. Okay. Worst seat. I got a worse seat. I got a worse seat. Right now? Yeah. No, it's not you right.

now is you last night can you pull up that social you guys cut oh the sound of you your ass just demolishing that chair i was doing a live hit last night in my house and cowboy and nolan are always sitting over there up to whatever they're up to and and uh and all the sudden well you can hear for yourself those are playing right now and when you have a defense like that Holy shit, Cowboy Reed just fell in. Those are all winnable games the way the Texans are playing right now. And when you have a defense like that, holy shit, Cowboy Reed just fell in his chair.

The chair broke. A pretty decent chair too. Damn, that's the broken one. Yeah. No, you're good player. Is your ass okay? Part of it was so funny. You said at the end, that's the broken one.

I broke that chair two weeks ago and we just put it in the corner. Like, oh, we have to fix this. And Reed was sitting in it during the day. and then you went over to do your hit and I said to me I was like yo I wasn't sitting that chair it's broken

and then and then you hear out of nowhere I was right that's why I didn't even look over I was legitimately concerned about my dog man it was a comfy landing you saw how comfy that

comfy chair you could have just stayed there bro I didn't feel a thing you could just stayed there that shit was so funny that shit was funny I'll give you a worse seat I'm definitely a win though

Got to be Ole Miss fans. One of the best seasons of program history. And you just lose your head coach before the playoff. Brutal deal for those fans, those players. And I mean, there's a bunch of players in that team right now who are going to be wearing LSU jerseys next season. So it's also worse. It's a double-decker wore a seat because it's a worst seat for Marty Smith.

Dude. Hey, hey, Nolan, we were sitting there watching the game and Nolan was like, you know Marty Smith's been like camped out at what was it? facility of the airport for 48 hours and they were told like you can't leave until he gets like hired or stays or whatever and the the fucking interview basically at the parking lot like lane was just like ready to get the fuck out of there he was ready to like escape oxford dude yeah he was he was running out of there it was so funny though because they went to marty i think during game day earlier in the day and then you know we were we're out of the bars and awesome like later in the

day oh yeah to him Marty like Marty's still there I was like it's like 8 p.m. Like there's no way Lane Kiven's in that building. If we were still here today, we were going to start a hashtag let, let Marty leave or something like that. Like imagine like what are you doing, you know, for Thanksgiving? Well, I got Thanksgiving and then I got to go sit inside the Old Miss facility. Like it's a hostage situation, dude. But I will say this about was that his was that with Lane Kiffin?

Doesn't his daughter's boyfriend go down? LSU. Yeah. Yeah, just hit the transfer portal. Did he hit the portal? Witt Weeks in the portal. Oh. Damn.

He must really like her then. That's a good side, right? Yo, that's what Kiffin was trying to do. Keep his friends close, his enemies closer. Like, hey, yeah, you thought that was funny? Bring that up. You date my daughter. Well, you know what?

You know what's interesting about the whole thing is there was obviously the young podcaster. He made a joke about the fact that he looks so fucking young, but he's 40 years old. is the guy down in oxford talking about um you can't turn a hoe into a housewife which is a saying that he was likening to the situation uh at head coach that that lane just likes to leave and i well i agree like i wouldn't want to be called a hoe and like being called a hoe is like that's like a no-no and everything the spectacle that it became was like ridiculous to me because when and we this always happens online and like just where lane kiffin walks up to the dude with like six bucket

had state troopers and it's like see me in there we'll see how it goes i'm like he's not going to fight you bro like you know and also he might have used the wrong word but the sentiment of what he was saying about lane kiff and leaving and college football coaches like him always wanting the next thing is true and then he ends up being and i guarantee it was annoying as fuck for lane kiffin to like go through that thing not address what he was actually talking about and then have to like prove him right that was definitely like as he signed that big ass check at least 2% of where his head was that like fuck man that kid was right like but this bag i got to get the bag um the other thing the kid said that was funny to me was like hey he was like if i'd have said lepers never changed his stripes would

he have been mad i called him a leopard you know i'm like this is semantics but i see what you're saying i think it just proves the point that like you know what this is great for this report what he has he now has a sound bite if he wants to go to the end of it's he has a sound bite if he wants to go to the NFL. He's a hoe, and I want that to be known. He should just cut that sound bite. Oh, yeah, that's funny as hell, dude. And have that for his podcast. That was the Shelby, uh, Shelby Harris yesterday. They're talking about Jenny. That's funny as fuck, dude. I want to know what Joondred Jennings had to say. That, you know, that's actually, he said you can't turn a hole to a housewife. It's actually my fly on the wall. Are we a fly on the wall yet? Uh, getting there.

Mm-hmm. Worsts. What are we? We need a worse seat from Bo and Nate. Okay. Where's he, Bo? Yeah, definitely case and point. We're seeing you. Oh, I'm at this core studio. Look at this. We can't hear you. We're seeing.

We're see. Everyone at Studio J because we can't hear Bo Allen right now. Where seat, Nate. Timing out. You touched the mic. Oh, there it is. Is I here now? Can you hear me now?

Yes. All right. Hey, we're seat. Well, I was going to say. I said that earlier, but I didn't realize that I was muted somehow. Fuck it. I'll take the worst seat over here watching you guys laugh and have kicks while I'm trying to just fucking scrap together some conversations prison podcast set up uh yeah go ahead just carry on are you taping somewhere that like housewives do their podcasts

no this is uh this is uh ron shara outdoors it's actually an outdoor production uh nice outdoor media production place pretty cool pretty cool so like like uh amateur meat eater podcasts Pause. No, it's a pause. It's literally a show about hunting and killing and eating what you hunt and kill. Yeah, it's not sexual. It's about to be ice fishing season. Nate, where C?

Um. Ice fishing. Worst seat. I'm going to give it to myself, and I'm going to throw a little jab at the Virginia, at the Virginia Alumni Association. Trying to charge $110 bucks for tickets for your alumni players is absolutely upset. third and I had to sit at home because I'm not spending a hundred and ten bucks. And then if I, if my girl wants to come, that's another 110 bucks.

And then if your kid wants to come. Right. And then if your kid wants to come, that's another $110. Come on. Like, come on. We got to do better. The who's, we're winning. Like, we don't want this burden.

Like, everyone, alumni, we want to be at the game. We want to be there. We don't want this burden. We want free tickets. I'll tell you what. You take my ticket, you give it to Dr. Faxx, because that fire was hot, and that bird was juicy. Oh, man. Worst seat winner is Marty Smith.

That's got to suck. That fucking sucks. That's got to suck. I'm the worst seat for the season. Oh, okay. This is just for this week. Okay. Who's up now?

Fly on the wall. Yeah, I guess I'll, like, what the fuck did Joanne Jennings say? Any guesses? Let's not. That's not. So it's officially Jumbotron watch season. Let's think out loud. I think flying the wall,

what was it like in the parking lot of the Seattle Seahawks game when the Rams lose, you know, stuff like that. We're starting to get into that point of the season where like people in Carolina are watching people in Tampa and Tampa are watching Carolina. Like this is my favorite part of the year where there are people in stadiums reacting to what's going on around the league.

It just feels like crunch time to me, flying the wall. My fly in the wall is going to be for AJ Brown. I just wonder. He just keeps giving himself mentions. I just wonder what AJ Brown, how he feels, what he says when he has a game like he had and the team loses.

I just want to be on the other side of that, like to see how he really feels talking to his homeboys, his Twitch homeboys, whatever. You know how it is, bro. What you say to the media is not what you say in private. when he's saying certain things that should not be shared, people might think, like, he's still not giving you everything. No, I know. Neither are any of the guys.

That's why it's so funny to me when people are like, well, you don't hear anybody saying XYZ. I'm like, because most guys aren't just going to come out and say whatever this is being talked about in the locker room. I played around so many guys that are just me, me, me guys and stat guys. So it's funny when the team loses, like, people don't realize there's some guys in that locker room who do not give a shit that the team is losing. or what's going on.

As long as I have my stats and it's looking good if I have to leave here, I have stats and acclimades here that I can move somewhere else and make some more money, that's all I care about. So fly on the wall,

I'm just interested in a game like that, having a big game. Is he worried about the fantasy points and stuff like that? Because the fact that he said everyone, since he said everyone drop him off fantasy, he's been bawling. Well, that's a good,

I'm not biting on faxed pot stirring anymore. I'm not insider trading thing. Maybe. It's like a short sell. Yeah. He short sold himself in fantasy football. That's pretty interesting. Probably because he wanted to, yeah, you wanted to scoop

himself. Yeah. Leaks. That's really interesting. Amar ahead. Bo. Uh, my fly on the wall. Yeah, I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall for Frank Ragnow's physical in Detroit. A lot was made out of him coming. and out of retirement he's a friend of the pot i love frank he's from minnesota actually i've spoken to him a

number of times but it's like then he failed his uh his physical for a grade three hamstring it's like that's like a hamstring tear completely off the bone like did that happen on the flight over what exactly happened was he just sitting on a grade three torn hamstring all fall like what what what is the deal here like that's a serious deal uh yeah so that's not flying the ball like what that's a bad injury man what we should all go do and work out physicals to see if we We would pass or fail. Oh, my God. My shit would light up like a Christmas tree.

Oh, dog. I saw the funniest fucking rag now. It was a meme, bro. And I probably don't have it anymore because it's in the ADHD files. But it was, it was him. It was a meme of him running in through the smoke. And then a meme of him running right back out. Back into the bass boat, bro.

Respect. Okay. um my fly on the wall i i sent reed a clip here um but my fly i wish i was a fly on the wall to watch this jets fan's performance yesterday yesterday so obviously your attention will be grabbed by the fact that this guy's not wearing pants they're going to pan to him here if you look closer he's got a sling on that's like a heavy-duty sling that like he might have just had his labrum surgically repaired. In the sling hand, he's holding a beer, probably his 20th on the day. And with his non-sling hand, it looks like he's waving a lit cigarette over his head.

Is he? I mean, just to see the way this guy competed in the stands yesterday, would have been quite a spectacle. And the craziest part is, on account of the fact that he appears to be an adult, this guy showed up to work somewhere today. For sure. For sure, dude. That's my favorite thing to think about when guys get home and wash the the paint off and they're like I got to be up for an HR meeting in like eight hours yeah oh yeah unhinged cat well NFL fans put themselves through is that some of these dude the people they lead the HR no I know that's what I'm saying he's the HR guy I'm not saying he's in trouble yes yeah Navy's the Navy's fucking sailing across the country bro barely, barely left the port since we talked about that, dude.

Oh, man, they can take submarines, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What you got next? Hollow Man? Hollow Man, after we give flying the wall to Frank Rag now. Oh, that's good. That's a good one. Partly because I've never been in a, I'd like to see how those are done.

Yeah. Hollow Man. How those are done. What do you mean? No, no, no, I don't want to be. You want to check hernia's? Not anyone else's, no. Yeah.

And then, yeah, I, the whole, uh, hollow man. Do you guys have a hollow man? And is it me? Uh, no, it's not you. Hollow man. I don't know who's hollow man. I'll tell you who's hollow man. People that, oh, man.

Hollow man, everybody who's got to buy a Christmas tree this year. They're like $200. My friend chopped his own tree down. the other day. It was sick. I might try to do that this week. I don't really have a hollow man. I'm in a holiday spirit. I'm not going to shit on anybody here. I'll give you a hollow man.

Yeah. Malachi Corley, down nine points late in the third quarter, toe tap to kickoff return, pins the offense inside the five. That was brutal. Absolute brutal sequence there. Yeah, it was bad.

It was bad. who's next well i got one mine's not that good but i kind of mentioned this earlier when we were talking about the steelers wouldn't want to be a steelers wide receiver right now after aaron rogers publicly puts you on blasts so that you're not going to fucking players only meetings and watching tape and not doing the necessary film study required to understand his complicated hand signals i think that's not good not what you want from a future hall of fame quarterback

Hollow Men, Steelers, wide receivers. Nate? I don't have one. I try to think about one. I don't have one. Winner is Malachi Corley. That was silly. No, I'll give you a hollow woman.

The only vote cast. The WMBA's proposal, it ups max salary base to $1 million. I think it should be higher. Agreed. Do it, Reed. Whoever. Very progressive of you, Chris.

I think it's the third WMDA appearance. Oh, it's a fucking important negotiation. It is. I agree. And I don't think that it should be brought down to being discussed in a hollow main. I think this should be a whole episode. You think it should be more important.

Yeah, then a mention at the end of a, you know. Very eloquent. Yeah. Malachi Corley. St.L. Memorial. It's easy. Going to Miles Garrett.

About to be the sack king, pause. But, yeah. That's what I'm doing too. Hopefully he gets the next game. He sees four sacks, three and a half sacks for the title. And just a guy that no matter what the team's doing, if you want to watch a player and learn how to play football and going out no matter what is going on in the game,

you should watch Miles Garrett because he is going full speed every single possession he's on the field. Yes, and his full speed is fast. And he deserves the STL Memorial every week, probably. That's true. You watch this table. That's true. Go ahead.

What do you mean, huh? It's your turn. Oh, my turn. St.L. Memorial. Is Aaron Kramer still coaching both? Buffalo, you know, watching them play, I can tell Aaron Cromer still coaches in Buffalo. They had two backup tackles in the game in Buffalo this weekend, ran for 250 yards.

That offensive line, man, you know, we make it about the quarterback a lot and it is. But that that run game really does support everything they do. And just on a short week like that, getting everybody on the same page, that's awesome. Bo. Damn, Chris. Well, Chris took my... Let me think real quick. That was yours, Aaron Kromer?

I was going to say Bill's O'Line. But, yeah, I mean, it was impressive, man. They played great. They didn't have no sacks either. Yeah, it's a good call. 249 yards. Yeah. Let me think.

That's the Hill Memorial. I got one. Tristan Worf's. I think he's been playing pretty good. He was injured early in the year, but got himself a fucking touchdown. I love that. I like how the way they drew that up for him.

I love Tristan Worse. I think he's an incredible specimen. I would have loved to have seen him, like, covered on that, kind of like James was last week, and just fucking stiff-arm somebody or something like that. But it's cool to see the big man score, and, you know, it's fun to see creative play calling like that. STL.

Worf's. Nolan? My STL goes to A.D. Mitchell, Jets receiver. First 100-yard game of his career, called eight balls for 102 yards. Job well done. Been a roller coaster season for him. and obviously if he if once uh wilson's back next year they got a real good one two

punch there boom winner Aaron Kromer oh Aaron Kromer Aaron Kromer because how many times do we hear offensive line coaches outside of Jeff Stelman or yeah or Carol yep in Vegas yeah usually the only hair for a bad reason game ball game ball why don't you guys go first I've got a really good one I'll start can I start it off Yeah. Go ahead. No, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. All right. Well, you're not going to have. You're not going to have. We're not going to have the same one here. Jacoby Myers, I'm giving the game ball to. Six targets, six receptions, 90 yards, a touchdown.

50 yards is the longest reception. I think he's gotten out of Las Vegas and gotten to Jacksonville and just gone to work. I feel like he's starting to turn into maybe a security blanket for Trevor, and Trevor is someone who needs that type of blanket. So I'm happy that everything is going well with them right now. And this past game, I think he deserves a game ball. Go ahead, Bo. Star Trek. Thank you, Dr. Fax. I will be giving my ball to Alex Singleton.

He, you know, roller coaster season for him. You've got to be fucking kidding. You know. What was I talking about? Oh, yeah, game ball. Alex Singleton played great last night, had a big win on Sunday night football. He gets a ball for me. Big leader on that Broncos defense and, you know, just a roller coaster of, you know,

failing a drug test, that whole saga, missing one game, having surgery. And then, you know, coming back out, being a leader on that defense, making some big plays. So here's a ball for Alex Singleton. Did you just take my MVP and not even lean that? hard into the ball thing you're gonna do that I just mouthed I just mouth did you I go singleton I'm gonna do it because on the ride over I was do it I don't know if I should do it because no I got to think of a different one I'll go I'll go after I'm still gonna get a good one watch this that was up my my jaw just drop ball I wonder who's gonna win this one

concerning a Bronco was submitted. I'm going to give a shout out to the Lions halftime show that game. Eminem, Jack White, game balls for those guys. I thought they did a great job. It was a good show.

Seven-Eachian Army is awesome. But Slim, what if you win, wouldn't it be weird? Why? So you guys can sit me here next to Britney Spears. They better to switch me chair. I love Eminem, too. But Jack White, yeah.

game ball game ball game ball I'm going to give the game ball to the prince to the prince I'm going to give it to him again I give it to him did I just give it to him

because he went 4.50? Yeah I'm going to give it to him again I don't care I don't care fourth down touchdowns dude It was fucking awesome balling it was fucking awesome

awesome um yeah it would have been cooler if you had gone before bow because Alex Singleton gets the game ball. Yeah. I mean... I don't care about winning that.

I just care about my dignity and respect. Like, this game is a fixed thing where... It's, you know, Breed basically tries to be as equitable as possible. We had three winners today. Did we? Yeah, well, you, Nolan, and Bo all tied. Are you trying to... Racist, racist, racist.

Damn, I don't think that's one. Like, the truth or Nate. Yeah, I guess not. Oh, man. Well... I mean, Nate, you didn't even have one for, what was it, SDL Memorial? Well, no. Just qualify.

I see how you do it. We do, we do have to, Chris, you did have a special worst seat that we need to hit. I do have a really, I do have a good special work seat. The worst seat, the monitor is off. Okay. worst seat Peter B. Paris as Bo

becomes a bigger part of the programming plan here at Green Light podcast Peter B. Paris Bo's Highlander nemesis who has been commenting to Bo's chagrin for years about NEPOVB It's one of you guys

There was more emojis in there What I saw is like everyone's going to think this is me Can I read this? When was this? I want to show. These are Nolan's burner. This should be Chris and Nolan.

Nepo Bo is back to his own self-throwing Chris rhythm off and saying obvious are dumb stuff. Stay disciplined. Nepo Bo. And maybe you could afford a hotel one day. It's to stay with your parents. I replied to him on that one. What a treat. You two are the best combination in NFL commentary.

Why are you not doing this together? And why can't Nepo Bo learn from Kyle on how to do it? So the first one was Who is this guy? First one was from our Wednesday show, the previews, and then the second one was gave him too much bow in a week. This guy's always...

Cowboy, will you read my reply after our Wednesday show? I think I replied to that one. It's going to take a minute probably. Pretty poignant reply. What did you just want to tell us what you said? Or is it like it would be better for the effect if he read it? And if I'll keep up... I kind of want to hear it from Cowboy, frankly.

because it's going to take probably 17 seconds 17 16 15 Tanner saying longer 14 13 it's just a tough ask you know and we've got an all-state ad totally reasonable ass though not a kind of a fire nickname no nepo bow yeah get him a lie oh let's well he's find in this comment should we talk about the you know what actually facts I'll tell you what I commented back to Peter B Wait, no, we're fucking here now. No, no, no, it's not. There's no reply.

Oh, you didn't even get it off, bro. I think you deleted it, cowboy. No, I said, uh, here we go. Yeah, I said, eat my ass. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. Oh, you guys could fucking eat my ass. Oh, man, whatever. That's my thoughts.

Peter B. Paris, thanks for listening. but you got to deal with this big S.O.B. I want to do an interview. Me and him, it'll be like 60 minutes. That's it. I want to invite Peter B. Paris on the show. And D.D., I'll invite you too. This guy, D.D., has been arguing with people in the chat ever since he told me that, you know, the funniest thing D.D.

said this show, he said, he found out I have a charity event in Philly. He goes, we don't need your charity. We have brotherly love. Keep your charity. So I just want to let you know I'm canceling my charity event because BD 619 had a problem with my take on the quarterback of all the 17 things we broke down in the game. Peter B. Paris and Dedey special. Peter B, if you're out there, would you join us for a Zoom? The special guest, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, we got somebody.

Oh, hold on a second. you guys keep talking Monday Monday night Boe Nate do you guys have a lien A lien Giants Patriots right Yep

I mean I mean I feel pretty good about the Patriots in this situation What do you think night I feel like this is the game I feel like this is the little sticky game That the Giants might Freak around and

Try to win this I think it'll be a close game I think Jackson Dart will give the giant a little bit of energy, and maybe him playing against Drake May. Oh, have him excited to compete, but I think that the Patriots win this game when it's all said and done. But I think it will probably be a close one.

Pats are favored by seven. Total is 46 and a half. I'm really interested to see what they look like with the left side of their line in peril a little bit more. It's not something I'm excited to see. I loved watching, you know, their offense with, you know, healthy, young offensive line. But they're going to face a really tough group today in the, this evening in the, in the Giants D-line. So it's going to be a big test. And I think this is the kind of game that, like, you got the target on your back now. It's late in the season. Things are real. What are you going to do, man, when you're supposed to win these games?

They've done a good job. One of the things I've liked about this team, Can you email this individual right now? Special guest is coming on in the next minute or two to finish the show. I think this is one of those things where the Pats have done a good job of not playing down to teams, which is a weird thing to say about a team that had like four wins last year. You know what I'm saying? Like they'll get in these games and kind of just handle business. But this is one I kind of worry about.

Would you play? Is Jackson Dart playing? I know he's up, but is it going to be Jackson Dart? or is it going to be somebody in the chat might know chat watches more TV than us Did you text me? Huh?

Did you text me? I thought I did. No, I didn't. Okay, sorry. I did not. You know, those are you in the chat, sorry, I do a lot here at the show including booking guests,

you know, and also getting them squared away to come on the show while I'm hosting the show. while I'm hosting the show. All right. Somebody said I'm wearing multiple hats. Yeah, hold on a second.

I'll show you how many hats I'm fucking wearing up here. Any props you like tonight, Nate? Prop bets tonight. How about Stefan Diggs? Stefan Diggs. That's what I like. And maybe sprinkling. in a little Hunter Henry props maybe like over receiving yards or even a touchdown for him too

is there anything we we can talk about for 90 seconds guys can you can you help me out here 90 seconds of I will feel questions for from the chat you'll want you'll want to stick around for this special guest one of the most athletic people I know hmm yeah a real trailblower laser. Is it your daddy? No, it's not my dad. It's not my dad. It's more of an uncle.

Should everyone guess? Is the link in the email? Link is in the email. Yeah, we'll do some guess. Are there any good questions coming out in the I'll talk about something. I'll talk about something.

Oh, there he is. Hold on, I got to put my fucking earpiece in now. Oh, no, it's in. can you hear me? Yeah, loud and clear. This is incredible. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome Ryan Rissilla to the show. The first guest we've had on the live show all year.

I'm wearing a lot of hats because I basically had to book the guest and get the email to the producer and host the show in the middle of the show. Ryan, you're our Oxford, no, you're our Baton Rouge correspondent. Tell us what you think about the big hire. It's all run. I mean, it's who they wanted. and I think the good part of it, I mean, look, it's dripping with nastiness of what this industry is in college football. So I wouldn't defend that stuff.

I think LSU loved messing with Ole Miss is a longtime division rival and taking their coach before the playoff, which feels gross, but they want to get their guy. And I don't blame Ole Miss for being like, we don't want you here if you don't want to be here poaching our staff and telling guys to enter the transfer portal. and follow you to Bat Roo. So I kind of understand all the motivation behind it, but the most important thing is that when this job was available and Lane was at Ole Miss, and Ole Miss fans are going to love hearing this, but I was told the time, like,

when he wanted the job that badly, like was ready to bail in Ole Miss years ago, which tells you how much Lane understands how great this opportunity is. I do think it is, maybe it's not Ohio State or Alabama, certainly not historically, but, you know, one of the biggest things is they don't have another school like in Auburn. They don't have another school, you know, maybe not Georgia Tech so much with Georgia, but the Florida schools are all competing over the in-state guys.

And, you know, Sabin's first thing when he was in Baton Rouge was like, look, we've got to put a fence up around the state. And if we keep all the great high school players from Louisiana, we didn't even have to go anywhere else. So that's why it's such a incredible job if you do it right. And my feeling is Elaine appreciates and understands that far better than Ryan Kelly does. yeah it's got to be better than brian kelly Brian kelly's the kind of guy and i don't know what you can't say ryan but after he's fired like people come out of the woodwork to tell terrible stories about the things that happened

like you don't want to be that guy yeah i thought it was the right hot i mean there's there's i mean it's rough when no one like nobody i think the nicest thing right right good it's kind of like when a quarterback is gone from an NFL locker room and you're like nobody is going to say that this guy was not opposed you know even even if it's wrong there's not one guy

that's like got along with him and was his roommate on the road that's oh you know he's sort of misunderstood um i think the nicest thing anybody said about bk on the way out was like you know one-on-one he was okay it was like one sentence i read from like one source that was he was okay i mean maybe i'll be the guy he he and i always got along not that we had some intense relationship But I think because he was the Massachusetts thing, and he came to ESPN when he was with Cincinnati, and I saw him a couple times with Lerdin, probably. So, you know, him being nice to me, he doesn't exactly mean anything for recruiting at LSU. And, you know, whenever you're thinking of these top programs and these fan bases that are like, who are we getting, who are we getting? I mean, even A&M was probably a little disappointed that it was Mike Elko.

And Elko's been an absolute stud. and they couldn't be happier with them. But wherever you are with these premier programs, there's generally this kind of letdown. Like, this is the best that we could do. So if you think of it that way, you know, it makes all the sense in the world that he's there. The contract is wild, though.

I can't believe he gets a bonus up to maybe a million dollars depending on what Ole Miss does when he's not even going to be there. I'm fascinated with the Jimmy Sexton part of this. Go ahead. I want stupid. his buyout I heard about yesterday up at um at kentucky dude was that real or typo 37 million dollars to be paid out over the next six months like you're going to make 60 days 60 days 60 days i don't care if it's six years i'll take it dude that's that's uh if if if ryan rissillo was coaching college

football and there's an opening this year that you see and you could coach in one place that people don't think enough of where would you coach wow uh the curb ball on live TV. This is fucking crossbire. Some softball show. I don't even know I don't have this in my notes. People hate the notes.

Well, I mean, you frame that question in a way where it's like you can't just say LSU, okay, so that's fine. It's got to be a sleeping giant. Well, then it's Virginia Tech. Sorry. Fuck you. Yeah, well, you know what?

Come on. You know what? You know what? It's true. Maybe they like the interim guy at Penn State, and maybe he stays and keeps a bunch of guys there. You know, counterpoint James Franklin. Penn State's above the level that you were talking about here.

I didn't feel like Penn State was eligible as an answer. Okay, last question. No, what I'm saying is it might draw more guys to stay at Penn State. If they keep a guy in-house, you might keep some of the guys they don't transfer down to Virginia Tech. you might not get the start you want down there. And James Franklin, great recruiter, but is that the name of the game anymore, Ryan?

Most coaches that I've talked to are like, I'd rather be a great recruiter than a great X&O guy. I think there's a lot of guys like that. Yeah. Because that's really what it is. You know, it's some of these debates about talent and where it's all going and all the L stuff. And I'm not sure if I,

I feel like I'm on an island sometimes with this stuff because it's like, yeah, there's so much parody. now. Or we have a 12 team playoff instead of a 14 playoff. Or Ohio State, like, oh yeah, we've had so much parody. Michigan and Ohio State National Championships. Like, you know, so maybe Indiana changes all that because they're certainly good enough for all this.

SIG's a beast, go ahead. Sigs a beast. And these guys... Couldn't stand him last year. You said what? You couldn't stand him last year. Couldn't stand in this summer. Yeah.

Because, I mean, he just talked so much shit. And it was like, hey, you know, look what we did to coastal Carolina. and you're like, dude, what are you talking about? And then they get stomped by any of the good teams they played last year. All the credit in the world of what that guy's done this year, because last year I used to feel justified in giving him a hard time, and now I do not want to give him a hard time because that team's awesome, and he's done it in a place that it doesn't happen.

We got to say goodbye to Bo Allen. Bo Allen's leaving the show. He's got a meeting, and Ryan's going to be leaving in a second because he's got a meeting as well. But the last question I want to leave you with, Cowboy Reed, what are the destinations that we Virginia fans could end? up not to put the cart before the horse but say we win the ac c championship um it was oregon or lubbock texas eugene or lubbock texas is oxford out now obviously because they lost

well i think they're still in i know we talked about oxford being like the best okay of those three so if if would you have you been to lubbock Oregon yeah i was i was there when they beat i've been to all three places i was there when they beat number one texas is cole mccoy which place do you think oh really nolan by the way here went to austin uh to see the game actually had a if i may i have a question for rye yeah asking the question don't don't mind my longhorns hat rye but i'm i'm curious if you feel the longhorns deserve a spot in the 12th team playoff following the big win over annm uh no probably not just because it's not just the florida loss even though I'm probably more like, hey, I don't think Florida, like on the right Saturday, I don't think they're an easy out.

I mean, they're running back. Jaden is the second best running back in college football behind Jeremiah Love at Notre Dame. I mean, he's an absolute beast. He lit up Florida State. And I think Blackway's crazy talented, although he's, you know, obviously up and down throughout the season. But it wasn't just that. Like there's other games there with Texas. It's like, what is going on with you guys?

Like, what's wrong? So the top 10 wins, the three top 10 wins, it's tough to act that up against everybody else. I don't like, I call them kind of like record horrors where you're like, well, this team is eight and two. And this team is seven and three. Well, the eight and two team has to be better than the seven and three team. I mean, just last week, the committee had Michigan ranked ahead of Texas because of the extra loss. You know, like in what world would you have watched these teams play out of the course of the season? Because you could see that Underwood game coming from a mile away.

They're just sort of a limited team with a freshman quarterback. And you're just like, so you just went, you know, sometimes this stuff feels like standings. So even though, you know, I'm not necessarily married to that kind of stuff, it's a really crowded field. And everybody basically won the last couple of weeks, except for A&M losing a Texas. So, you know, if BYU had had an extra loss, right, they're completely out of it. Miami had lost a pit. If Notre Dame had stumbled somewhere else, if Bama loses at Auburn, which is in play in the Iron Bowl. Like if some of these teams had had the extra loss, the same way those SEC teams last year lost,

all was with Ole Miss, South Carolina, and Emma all losing that last weekend. Then it's like, guess what? I didn't love Indiana being in with that awful resume. But all these teams kind of lost at the end. So if more teams lost, I'd be fine with it. But every year, it's not like, I saw somebody comparing this year's Miami to last year's Oklahoma. And you're just like, what are you doing? Like, 2025 is the only way.

Like, this is the pool of teams that we have to compare each other to. And unfortunately for Texas, despite a really great high resume. not being rewarded for playing at Ohio State Week 1 because they'd probably be in the playoff if they play to nobody like some of these other schools do it's just really crowded field of teams that they're they're going up against even of Andy who they have the head to head against Ryan should I go to Lubbock if we go that was the question I was going to ask yeah definitely I like love it I would like Lubbock I'd like love it you would love you would love like I'm actually hoping but have you been to Eugene I don't want to go to Eugene it's too far Well, it is far, but Eugene's my second favorite place behind Tiger Stadium. Too far. It's too far. Are you doing a private jet for the whole crew? Fuck no, dude.

Right? No. Right? I like the one. Thanks. Hey, Nate. Nate today called out our university, the alumni association for making him buy a ticket to the game the other day on a live show.

You know, I'm going to get a phone call. later. You're going to be like, what the fuck is Dr. Fax talking about? Ryan, a hundred bucks for an alumni ticket is crazy, right? To a, to a game? To a Virginia game. It just goes into the NIL. You want better players?

Do you want to deal with James Franklin? That's right. What if they're a hundred bucks short on a corner? That's right, that's exactly right. Maybe we would land this kid from Newport News, you know? Everything is about the roster now, man. It's about the roster, Rob. Thanks so.

the roster today right what would have i still have four minutes okay all right stay stay okay bill burn go ahead i ran into bill burr after one of his comedy shows he was like i was like yeah we had you on he's like i don't think i was very good he said that's fine and he was yeah it was hilarious about him van pelt and he's yeah we did a phone or we taped it and honestly it didn't kill he was he had good court awareness on that one but uh wow was thinking about you i was in london no no wasn't his fault i was in london last week and i realized i had totally messed up my return flight right so i was like you know what you moron you could have got out of here first thing in the morning on sunday phone back direct la and then you'd be on your couch at one o'clock

and then you just get caught up in all the games and now instead you have to stay up until 2 a.m. to watch these games forget the rams one because that was like going to be on your couch at one on until five morning. And then I have to tape and then make sure I can tape at time. So I actually looked at the private jets. I was like, what am I in this world? What is a PJ from London to L.A.? Can I guess? Yeah, that's the whole. No, what? No, well, if you're the Navy, though, it's free. So, so. So, so. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, and And what kind of plane? You're going to be making stops, obviously.

You're going to be making stops. Okay. In Reykivik or something? No stops. I'm going to say it's $150,000. Maybe closer to 200. I think you're right on. I saw something for $100,000.

And once I saw that, I was like, hey. What? London, Tel A in a private jet, bro. They probably hike it up because of customs and all this shit. You got to think about how much fuel. cost the size of the plane? U.S. dollars, bro.

I did not know that. Yeah, not pounds. Fuck no. U.S. dollars. Bro, I would never get a opponent. No.

Because you could get like a first class. 1.3. 1.3. Yeah. It's about where I expected. What? Damn. That's crazy.

Well, how much does it like a first class ticket to London? Like probably 10, 15 grand. 4 grand. 4 grand. 4 grand round trip. Gully. Well, I booked it.

It's a month. most the best it's the most adult thing I've done maybe in my life is I booked a ticket in August which I've never done before yeah I was like yeah but I knew and of course I was like let me let me see what the let me change the flight and it was nine grand one way back and then I was like what would a private jet be and there was a number in my head that wasn't even going to be accessible I was like this isn't even there's no number like whatever you think you would do for this there's what in no way that's the number like you get from maybe LA to Sacramento. They drop you off in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. That's my price range.

Like, I'll do like one eighth of that thing, dude. Honestly, that's you to Wales. They get you to Wales, bro. They get you to Bermuda to the Bermuda triangle. Hey, um, you guys know where Wales is? Wales? Yeah, it's in the UK. Is it in the UK? Well, yeah, but where? Do you be able to see it? Like, yeah, I think I would be able to see it. Pull it up. I fucking, you gave it away, but I know where Wales is. I see it. Yeah, I know where Wales is. Do you, though?

It's also where Catherine Zeta Jones is from. Really? I think she's Welsh. That's a weird mix. What's going on there? Catherine Zeta Jones is a Welsh actress. I know my Catherine Zeta Jones facts. She was born.

With AOL and... Born in Swansea, South Wales. Yeah. Yeah, he was born in South Wales. You know it. Southie. Right. You have any other point?

you want to make before we're on the back end of a fucking an odyssey of a show dude yeah no i don't know i think somebody's breaking into my house right now so i there i know but check out the travel pod check out the travel pod went to went to a premier league game went to radio head back to back nights i sent you some clips went to a sex club um in soho because it was like the guy was like do you would you be interested in going to this i'm like well you know if i can win in rome and I had heard about them a little bit. And I was like, is this one of those things where you go into like a hallway? And then you look down the hallway.

And I was like, I don't really want to do that. And he's like, no, it's just sort of a stage. And there's sort of some performances. And it was not great. It's like the Mitchell brothers. There's a place in San Francisco like that. Legitimate like people stand there in the theater and watch. Yeah.

Yeah, it probably smell bad. Not into it. Yeah, not into it. No, stocked down, sex club. Staff was great. Staff was great. Yeah. I'll tell you that right now.

I bet they were. I bet they were. Did anybody recognize you out there at the EPL game? Yeah, a couple people. That's sick. Anyone recognize you in the second? I thought I was doing something wrong. For sure, somebody recognizes in the sex club.

Perverts love Ryan was so low. Not a lot. Oh, nice Montana. No, I, uh, yeah. I love my work for you. Yeah. We're bench made guys, though, so I feel a little bad. Totally.

sure totally shout out to bench made i use that knife this week all right rye uh be good man thanks for coming on on short notice sorry about the texas take yeah i know it's all good yeah need more help all right buddy talk to you all right beat duke beat duke baby what a conference we play in um it's a beautiful i love the acc did you see their posts they're like we settle it on the field it was a miami post you're like dude you're seven and five team is playing end of the five six and two teams do played two of them that's so good dude uh well granted can't wait yeah i mean it was it was like when i'll end on this i don't know what's going on with your conference in the branding but like once there was a bunch of stanford and cash swimmers

in the olympics for like the acc does it again with like gold medals yeah that's all we do though we just dominate olympics and for we well and yeah west coast olympic sports too at that now yeah so nothing says ac cc like wick stanford at nine a m all right thanks guys all right bro see you rye thanks ryan hey uh dudes we in and uh dudes and uh dudes and ladies we uh we're done i don't want to say do dats bro that's a that's not even a real fucking term can we say this what we got to go bro so uh apparently apparently per source or juan jennings he told Cleveland Brown Don't do it

Don't do it Don't do it Don't read this tweet Read the tweet I know the tweet That he would take his mother out On a nice seafood dinner And never call her again

Bro that is funny That is funny as shit bro Like wait Barring Barring You think that that is really alleged But I That's a reference

I can see guys saying something I can see guys saying something like that No that No, that's not what he said. You think he said, like, I'll hit you, like, I'll have sex with your moms in a different way? I'm just saying, I think that was a comedic tweet. It's from, um, it's from, Anchorman. That's hilarious.

Dorothy, man, too. Yo, Nate was like, what kind of shit is he talking, dude? See, but, but like, honestly, I still feel like, I still feel like, it's something. It's a good time to stuff that was said. I feel like, whatever was. said was probably something kind of like childish like that along the lines of that hey i i think so like i just i just don't know what guys can say or like i'm just trying to think in my head what someone could say to me on the field that would get me like family that up family family but is it like

something i know personal that you don't know that i know or is it just general like something i looked up or it's just it's just funny to be like miles garrett said after the game he's like i don't know how he was raised or something to that effect word he kind of unked him dude yeah yeah kind of love that um joan jennings out here making people mad beau is stuck freezing looking into the camera that's not him he's not here anymore we are gone guys this fucking thing's over right people requested ryan rousillo i gave you ryan ricillow so let's go home now