Green Light with Chris Long - Part 2 - NFL Talk and Top 5's with Chris Long & Kyle Long

Episode Date: November 30, 2019

NFL Talk and Top 5's with Chris Long & Kyle Long on Green Light Podcast (P2) | Chalk Media On Part 2 of Episode 10 of the Green Light Podcast, Kyle Long joins his brother, Chris Long, to talk Top 5 most intimidating linemen they played with or against, Top 5 NFL stadiums, pet peeves in the NFL, and Long Family Thanksgiving traditions and stories. About Chalk Media: Following the unfiltered voice and vision of Chris Long, Chalk Media is the interactive online community for you, the intelligent and humorous sports fan. Driven by access, Chalk delivers a unique perspective that cuts through the canned talking points and provides a variety of content from your favorite sports and entertainment celebrities. Here at Chalk, we don’t take ourselves too seriously, but we are rooted in challenging the perception of professional athletes. We embrace the “real” with a unique combination of humor and intelligence. Chalk is a community with a voice beyond 240 characters that brings a perspective and vibe to a traditionally brash and boastful sports media space. Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more. Nothing is off limits at Chalk - hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. 🌍🏀🏈SUBSCRIBE NOW ⚾🏒⛰️ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So welcome to part two of episode, what is this? Episode 10? Yeah, it's episode 10. Little milestone here. And it's a big ass episode because I had friends in the house. Let's get Kyle out here. Thanks for clicking over to part two of episode 10. So I've got, it's not making.

It's not Nate. As I mentioned, we let Kyle out of his giant T-Rex cage. Kyle is the dinosaur at the end of the New Jurassic Park that all the bidders are waiting to see at the end of... I didn't see it. Spoiler. But you're a large dude. Never had somebody this large.

By the way, 330s never looked so good. Well, you know, thank you. I've come a long way from 330. I've been into 2x now. 298. I'm under 300 for the first time this decade. No wonder you look so damn good. This decade. You look healthy. You look happy.

And I am happy to see. It's good to have you back in Seville. bro you're here for Luke's little birthday party you know shout out to Luke who turned one this year or this year this week and and we're going to talk about a lot here because we happen to have Nate and Kyle who are teammates Kyle and I who are brothers and we all played in the NFL so there's a lot to get to today including five most intimidating linemen that we played against or with out both our fathers are in the whole thing my dad's in the Hall of Fame for Westchester community, Kyle.

Yes. Al Collins, shout out to Al Collins. We will never be as good as our dads. No, we won't. We won't. I mean, like, let's just get that out there. The fucking guy's got a gold jacket. Now, there's some things we're better than him at.

Let's start off with this question, Kyle. Who does dad like the most? On three. Okay, ready? One, two, three. you mom that's such a fucking cop out he likes me he likes me more than you he does like exactly thank you kyle's my genetic Kyle's my genetic spa you're too smart and he can't condition you in the way that he wants to yeah and from a young age like a groomable Labrador retriever I've been like yeah

like the football good good guy do the football yes Kyle you're doing football good good keep it up chris you're doing football good i have other interests well hold on kiles on the phone on the phone on the phone on the phone on the phone how's beefed through also uh you know struck by the lightning of zeus here i mean you know just look at this guy he's a specimen he's like magnus magnus van magnuson magnus van magnuson like one of those fucking dudes some nordic dude lifting a giant indiana jones looking boulder onto a mack truck why didn't we have those competitions in Ivy, Virginia. Because it would have just been you.

I would have been in a kilt. And dad would have been like, dad would have been like, I want to get it on this thing. And he would have like blown his back. Yeah. So we're going to do five most intimidating

linemen that we played against or with. We're going to do five stadiums that we like the best, not including our own stadiums. We're going to do pet peeves in the NFL. And I'll ask Kyle a few questions. Kyle, um,

I think we'll start with pet peeves. And Nate, you can certainly pop in here whenever you feel, um, Like it's necessary. I'll start with one cutting. These are NFL pet peeves.

And it's my pet peeve anywhere, but NFL players do a lot. D.Bs do it a lot. Cutting in line. Am I wrong? Like lunch lines or? In a lunch line. Or a line to the plane or a line to the bus.

You know when the bus empties out and everybody's waiting to get on the plane from an away game? And, you know, certain guys just mill around or stay on the bus. and then they cut to the front of the line. Everybody's getting ready to get the jet bridge ready. Dude, you're not going to get out of here early. Everybody's leaving on the same airplane. The offensive line, who I will say in front of a, you know, a camera, the smartest group of people.

Very obedient. On the field, obedient, Labradors, all of us. All loud. And we sit on the bus because we know we're going to get our food either way. Yeah. There's no reason to rush. But also, too. And chances are you'll get fresher food at the end of the meal.

But also, too, that's different for all linemen, because most of the time on the planes and travel, Your seats are a lot. Oh, fuck. You know what? We've been sitting here setting up segments. I've been holding this board here. Hopefully people that are watching on YouTube have been paying attention to this board wondering

what the hell it is. I know Nate and Kyle have. So what we have here is a cork board. It looks part Russ Cole. It looks part NCIS. It's true detective for sure. It's definitely true detective. Carcosa is somewhere in here.

Yeah, Carcosa is he might be the mystery man. But the idea for this segment, and I call it Ashton Coucher Butterfly Effect segment, which is a lot of words for a segment, but that's the only way. It's kind of like six degrees. Well, you don't know that it makes sense yet. In my head it does. In your head it does.

It's kind of like six degrees separation, Kevin Bacon, but it's more Ashton Coutcher. All the people on this, well, some of the people on this board, this cork board that are connected by red strings, which mean nothing, are related in some way. Now, there's some pictures here. I'll give you a hint.

John Madden is here with a turkey. next to Greg Roman and Lamar. John Madden has nothing to do with this. Now, the way I look at this is, we're going to do a segment a lot of times on this show where this will sit up for an entire show, people that are watching on YouTube, hopefully people that are listening on the pod via audio,

we'll tune into YouTube to see what the fuck is on the cork board. Then the next show, I will reveal what it actually meant. You can take your guesses and tweet at Chalk Media. It's like a crossword puzzle. Tune in next episode for the answers. Yeah, and what we're doing is we're driving some people to the YouTube channel. We're also driving you to our Twitters.

But organically, I really like the segment. So basically, I'm going to make a statement here. Well, I won't even make the statement for the first one. I'm going to tell people listening. We have pictures of people up here. We have the Harbaugh brothers. We have the guy from West Virginia who went viral, you know, when that poor girl's car got crushed by a tree.

We have Alex Smith. We have Marcus Higgins. We have Jolon Dunbar, Stan Cronkey, Jeff Fisher. we have South Park, we have a turkey, we have Charlie Brown, we have, God, we got a lot here. Is that number 53? We have a picture of the Waffle House. There's Ray Lewis and he's going to, I'll give you a hint, he's going to possibly tie into this whole thing. But basically, you got any guesses on how these people are related, Nate or Kyle?

I really didn't tell him. They're all killers? I'm sorry. That was Nate Collins. He lives at 2308 Price Avenue. I mean, obviously, the overarching theme here is football. There's a lot of football, and these guys are connected somehow. Yeah.

Do you want me to just take a stab at it here? Now, I thought of this the other night watching the Rams. What do you think? I know, it's all like Thanksgiving theme, like what, like cartoons and shows that play. Like peanuts was Thanksgiving. Yeah, you're on the right track. Not. And he's Virginia Tech.

and you guys played on Thanksgiving every year every year. Oh, Tyrod Taylor's up here. No, here's what it is. I'll tell you. I'm gonna explain. Guys, get your fucking, sit at your little desks

with your little composite notebooks and take notes, bro, because this is the Ashton Coucher butterfly effect. Okay. That's a butterfly flap in its wings, which can change everything. As we know, with the chaos theory,

which I don't have memorized yet, if you look up the chaos theory, it describes exactly what we're about to do. That's Stan Cronkey. Is that like string theory? Something like that. That's Stan Cronky in the top left of the cork board. Stan Cronky obviously bought the Rams on the heels of the Steve Spagnola firing.

Circa 2012. Now, this was when I was up for a contract. I was really excited. It was coming off a really good year. I was like, who's going to be the head coach that's going to take the reins here and possibly pay me? That was Jeff Fisher. Great news. I'm Kyle Vandenbosch.

Don't know who Albert Hainsworth is going to be yet, but like, I can be Kyle. He can pay me because he probably am white. You know, I hustle, you know, that sort of thing. You know, gritty. Also brought Greg Williams in as his D coordinator. I think this is also positive. These are two guys who are hard-nosed.

Jeff's a player's coach. Jeff brings in players like Courtney Finnegan, who are some of my favorite teammates of all time that came from Tennessee, including William Hayes, who we both know well. And then we've got Greg Williams coming from New Orleans. And Greg Williams, of course, this is right before he serves his suspension. and he brings guys up with him from a personnel standpoint

like Jolon Dunbar. That's the linebacker here, understand Cronky. He was instrumental in New Orleans. He was also very underrated for us in St. Louis. Now, you bring those players in, we played a physical style. We hustled, we played hard.

We go out to play our division rival in San Francisco, who is soaring that year under Jim Harbaugh. He's got Alex Smith at the helm, being coached up to the best of his abilities, the best moments in his career were under Greg Roman. You've got this thing rolling. They're a Super Bowl likely team. They're going to have a shot at making a run.

Now, he scrambles to try to pick up a first down in this game in San Francisco and Jolon Dunbar, no more than three yards away when he knocks Alex Smith out of the game. Now, this is where the mystery man in the middle comes into play. And that mystery man is Colin Kaepernick. Now, Colin Kaepernick enters the game, and he never looks back. he propels them on a run to the Super Bowl How did I not see that this is a Kaepernick board? Exactly.

Well, it's not quite a Kaepernick board. Well, that most of these things, I'm looking at the Harbaugh's. I'm looking at Taylor. Were you not a team? So to recap here, sorry. We've got Stan Cronky,

hires Jeff Fisher, who hires Greg Williams. With a bunch of gangsters to go play the Niners. Yep, who brings Jolon Dunbar, who knocks Alex Smith out of the game, which leads to Colin Kaepernick's entrance to the game and him lighting the league on fire

with the help of Greg Roman, who's also, you know, breathe some life in Alex Smith's career. They should win the Super Bowl, and it's actually not, the misconception there was a defensive team. They had a lot of great players on the defense, but the defense did not keep the points down in the Super Bowl or in the playoffs. In general, Colin was a guy that propelled them there. Now, what happens next is really interesting. Greg Roman eventually leaves. He coaches Tyrod Taylor up really well. He went to the Pro Bowl that year. To the best of his abilities. There's a guy in college named Lamar Jackson,

and you can see him down here, picture with Greg Roman. That's going to be important on a couple levels. I don't believe that the Ravens are even thinking about drafting a Lamar Jackson at 32 unless it's for a guy like Cap taking the league by storm. I think Cap changes the way we've looked at, quote-unquote, running quarterbacks

and the possibilities with which we can use them. And Greg Roman plays into that. They draft Lamar Jackson. I also believe that they really were serious about bringing Colin Kaepernick in in Baltimore. With Lamar? No, this is before Lamar. Infamously, they brought in Colin and it went sideways because of the Nessa thing or whatever, whatever you want to believe. So I think they had long dreamed of having a mobile quarterback in the twilight of Joe Flacco's Baltimore career.

So they bring Lamar in, I believe, at least partially on account of CAP success, which doesn't happen if Alex Smith has never done. knocked out of the game, they also bring Greg Roman in for Lamar's second year. Lamar was good, not spectacular, his rookie year. He needed that catalyst to take him the next level. Greg's the guy. Greg also worked. So that was a big change. No, well, Greg also worked with one of the Harbaugh brothers, right? He worked with Jim. Jim brought him from Stanford. Well, John, because of all these factors, Cap's success, Greg Roman's success with Tyrod with Cap, his relationship with his brother, brings him to Baltimore. So now you've got the Roman and the Lamar. Jackson effect multiplying each other.

And what we see here is a team that is my odds-on favorite to win the Super Bowl. And when you win the Super Bowl, according to Ray Lewis, when the Baltimore Ravens are playing well, you drive the crime rate down. That's what Ray Lewis said. On a couple of occasions, I don't believe that to be true. I was going to say, I want to see some empirical data behind it. There is none. This is a Ray Lewisism.

I like it. I support you, right? So you can, you can gather from this butterfly. effect. I believe, let's say the Ravens go out and win a Super Bowl. I think Stan Cronkey is responsible for this Super Bowl. Stan Cronkey should have a statue from Baltimore. For bringing this man in. For bringing Jeff Fisher in, who brought Greg Williams in, who brought Jolon Dunbar in, who knocked Alex Smith out of the game, who allowed Cap to set the league on fire, which allowed a marriage between Greg Roman and the drafting of Lamar Jackson in a way. Now, this team is an offensive

juggernaut. But you know what else Stan Cronkey did? He sent Marcus Peters to Baltimore. So as if this wasn't empirical enough, he sent Baltimore the cheat code on defense. And what's happened since Stan Cronkey sent

Marcus Peters? I've heard he has a cheat code and he knows the game very well. So what's happened since Cronkey sent and the Rams? I'm talking about Peters. Well, no, that's what I'm saying? What's happened since he sent Peters? The icing on the cake of my true detective court board.

They have been one of the most efficient teams of the league from a defensive standpoint. That is throwing gasoline on a fire. And I think that fire burns all the way through to Miami. And Stan Cronky should have a statue. A statue in the inner harbor. Or Baltimore. Yeah. They should just throw crabs at them.

So do you guys, are you guys buying this? I mean, I'm here because I support you and I support your rust coal, your inner rust coal. And this is some rain man shit. And I like it. It's very cool. I thought about it when I was. And I didn't know what it was until we go through it, but that's incredible because you were there. You were there for the bloodbaths in the NFC West.

Oh, San Francisco, or St. Louis was. The games you're talking about, and as a fan, and I was a Rams fan when I was in college and I was in junior college. But the NFC West, it was the Cardinals, it was the Seahawks, the Rams, and the Niners. And they were bloodbath games. Oh, they were. Eight tight ends on the field. Yeah, just eight tight ends. you had Leonard Davis and tackle over.

I'm in a six technique. Like, yeah, let me just put my, if I just use my leverage, I'll be able to hold. But people, the phrase any given Sunday gets thrown around, honestly in the NFC West in the 2010s. Yeah. We beat all of them. That's the case.

We beat all of them. We were in one game. You guys played everybody tough. That game ended in a tie, by the way, the one that the cap came into. It was 1917. It ended in a tie. I didn't know how to feel.

And then the next year we played them, in the most physical game in my career in 2012, I believe it was. No, in 2013. Vance McDonald. Yeah, he was a dog. Listen, the Niners back then had Prime Vernon Davis. They had Vance McDowell. They had Delaney Walker, who's a stud now, and was a stud then.

They had Anthony Davis, Boone, Crab. I. Iy, Goodwin, the Center, Joe Staley, Frank Gore, Colin Kaepernard, fucking they put Kilgore in at fullback who's a guard the defense crab tree bolden people talk about the defense yeah let's talk about that offense yeah you look at the O line in particular and the names you named they're still playing and they were at the height of their career yes

cavernick versus who was who was the Bears backup um who's the Bears backup back then um I can't think he did really well in Tampa Josh McCown no no the he's black oh Josh Freeman yeah who I heard as a baller I've heard a lot of amazing So Kaepernick first start, that next game after he got in was versus Freeman. And it was a Sunday night game. And Kaepernick destroyed us. They destroyed us. Justin Smith had, wait, Alden Smith had five sacks.

Yeah, we talked about it. We talked about earlier. And this is what's funny. He's sitting here, he's telling me, like, I was there when Cap, and you forgot that I played him in the year. Yeah. Oh, the game. He came out here. I could have had four sacks in the game of one for Cap.

Bro, this dude, he was just running. Yeah. like here let's let's let's let's let's move this port out of the way it's a weird it's a weird bro it's a weird run too so so so so that's got like a he's got like a analog four hundred meter sprinter yeah yeah it's different you you're like maybe i could catch this guy that that's what happens is mentally like when you watch it on tape you think that you're you're easily can run him down like i'd say when a quarterback goes boot naked boot and leonard floyd is on pursuit yeah leoner floyd is rangy

Similar rangey run. Yes. I don't know how that feels to run rangy. I run in place or I ran in place when I used to run for a living. Let's get right into pet peeve, shall we? Okay. You know, because we were there. Cutting in lines, that's one for me.

Do you guys have any off the top of your head? Well, I was thinking more like in the game. I was thinking TV timeout. Go ahead. Playing in Chicago, it's brutally cold. Yes. And when you're getting ready to go on the field, like, I was on some really bad teams and we were down 30 points. And it was.

Kyle. I know. I get it. You can relate. But you guys play indoors. It's warm. I would have rather played outdoor. Yeah, but there are some games where it's like, dude, ref, come on, bro.

Let's get the clock running here. Yeah, and you're a big guy, and you got the extra. I played with Roberto Garza and Matt Slosson, who would not let you leave the locker room with sleeves. And I was the first person when all the old timers left. To put sleeves. I was the only guy that nutted up and said, I'm wearing sleeves. I don't appreciate that in Chicago, do they? They did not like that.

Yeah, no, I said they don't. Everybody out there in Chicago who wears like three layers of Carhart on the job wants the pro athletes to get cold and inhibit their performance. I got a lot of sense. I mean, I got a lot of frigging like toughness in terms of cold weather. Yeah. Because we practice in it. We're outside of it.

The practices are way worse than the games. But the game is so long. Yeah. It's so long. And the wind right off the lake because we don't practice at Soldier Field. Lake Erie. I used to like the, I used to like the thing. I used to like the chicken broth, though, when it gets cold on the sideline.

Instead of gatorade. By the end of my career, I started, and I didn't wear sleeves because it took away from my swag late in my career. But it was more for me. I wouldn't have ashamed to throw on that big jacket. As soon as I get to the fucking sidelines. The jacket with the heated seat. You want to see some coach. Here's a funny thing here.

Another pet peeve of mine. Here's what grinds my gears is coaches that look at you funny when you put the jacket on or wear sleeves. And these fuckers are out there in gloves at practice, bro. And three layers of jackets. Like, stop, bro. I got a pet peeve too. The player who purposely stands to the right or the left of the head coach. So he's on TV.

So true, bro. So true. That's a pet peeve of mine. Especially if I don't know you and you're just and you're wearing your favorite chain and you're purposely standing and you're doing the fake. Just everything. Everything's lined up. It's just, it's something where, yeah, you can do it once, but if they're cutting to the

coach for a few quarters and it's the same guy. That's what they call cloud chasing. Yeah, it is. But what I say is just, you're just showing everyone you're not in the game. You're cloud chasing. I was going to say, you know, coaches that don't watch your film, most position coaches, here's a dirty secret. They barely watch the film.

Oh, I. They don't have time to evaluate a game. So they're like going off of the stats and then like what the coaches upstairs are yelling. The coordinator, what he's doing. And really what they're doing is they, NFL coaches in a position room, there should be one guy who's the scheme guy

and there should be one guy who's the football guy. And the guy who's the scheme guy should not coach you on football and vice versa. You know what? Great example of that and the most success I had as a football player was Aaron Kromer was the offensive, line coach and Pat Meyer. I don't know if you remember Pat Meyer.

He was the Blitz pickup guy. Yeah. The only thing I remember, the only quotable thing from Pat Myers, we got answers, bud. Yeah. Never freaked out. Yeah.

What did Aaron Kromer teach me? How to be a bad man on the field. Right. So you got two different. I had a football coach and I had like a mentality guy. Yeah, mentality guy. London and Bealant?

London and Beal and Aaron Kromer, I mean, if he, if he listens to this, it's like, that's real shit. Yeah. I know that.

Well, He did that with a few people. I think at least I saw a figure where at least 50% of the NFL coaches listen to Greenlight Pod. That's great. They don't watch film, but they're watching the pod. No, because that's what they're doing. Instead of recognizing great rushes that I have that didn't get home because the other fucking D.N. Loses contain or the tackle fell over or it's a shitty caller.

The coverage is bad. We just go right past it. We go right past it. And we go upstairs and get yelled out by the coordinators. Have you experienced it where a coach almost? Stop crying. Have you experienced it where coach almost watches too much? Yeah, where coach watches too much film?

Yeah, absolutely. You guys don't even know because you guys never been practice squad players. So all the stuff you're complaining about right now is like the life of a practice squad player. We don't have a leg to stand on there. You know what? Also, while we're on topic, coaches that yell at the practice squad players by getting the cards right. Newsflash, you're fucking reading the cards because you're either younger or you're not doing the other things. thing as well like and that's the and that's what I mean that's the mental messed up part is you're

telling me to read off a car it's that's if I do well that's that's running downhill yeah that's what that is yeah and you know what's fucked up is a lot of times he's gonna get yelled at somebody else is gonna get you yeah they're just the coach you know we don't see half of those interactions oh I see upstairs but I mean we might see too yeah yeah but there's three other links in the chain from the top there's here's one that annoys me here's one that annoys me DB's controlling the music insist on controlling the music 120% of the time.

It's an oligarchy. All the small guys. All the small guys. It's like a lot of little like little man's complex guys. I'll give it to Akeem Hicks though. He asserted dominance on the auxiliary cord. Flesh will do it sometimes and I would assume

that he was the only person. He'll put on Johnny Dash. I think Briggs was the only person that was allowed to touch when we were there. When I was there at least. Yeah, well, the rightfully so. When you've got a vet who's like a long time fixture somewhere, but even so,

like dbs and they're supposed to be like you know country music Thursday and then like a trap music you know Friday and then like there's some older guys that like I like rap music but this shit you can't blame me I know you go okay boomer me but I don't want to hear I don't want to hear some of this new music I don't agree with you okay I stop listen don't you think once a week they should they should lose the aogs no we should just listen to action Bronson every day right oh yeah for sure look action shout out to action seriously programs fucking We'll call a friend of the program. What I was going to say is,

we used to do it in the wait room where it would be like, we'd call it White Guy Wednesday. White Guy Wednesday. Country music, Lincoln Park, like stuff that you would never hear. You only hear Lincoln Park on hard knocks. And it's the worst day.

It was the worst day. You can't lift some of that stuff. No, I don't want to hear it either. But my thing is like when Fletcher Cox goes and changes the radio to Stapled in, which is not pop country. Me and Fletcher Cox, you should sit in the corner of the room

and listen to Death Row before every, and Death Row, not the hip-hop group, death row, the Stapledon song. So Fletch is a big country-loving dude. It's like Bobby Massey. And Fletch would change the radio

and I'd see like Jalen Mills go change the radio off of Fletch and I'm like, bro, it wasn't your day, bro. Also, you're like six years younger than Fletch and half his size. Do you guys have it in somebody's locker or is it like in the equipment guys room?

Oh, it'd be in the wait room. And then like a lot of times like you have your Michael Bennett who's got his own personal thing. or Ligarick Blunt has got his own personal thing And in the locker room, that's how it usually went Like you have your own personal thing But in the wait room it was bad

How about tough guy vets? I don't like vets that treat rookies like shit I'm not a fan of hate that Yeah, I mean I hate that too I used to tell people I'm not a fan of brother-in-law I used to say the whole term of brother-in-law And that usually comes from that vet Yeah, that's a jerk

Yeah but you're talking about like practice right? You're talking about going to... When they say brother-in-law, okay, so we're talking about you're saying brother-in-law, which is basically a term for guys not going as hard

as they need to in practice because they're giving the older player a break or whatever. Because they're just lazy. Some people are just laughing. Do you guys know how to practice together well when you were at the Bears? Yeah.

Can we if you shed some light on the background here? Did you brother-in-law or did you not brother-in-law? Well, let me speak on the bully, like the older guys just being hard of. Yes, let's start with that. And then I want to Nate Collins-Call-Long. There's a real cultural issue there and guys talk about, especially the O-line community.

I heard you guys aren't ready to play when they're in the league. And it's a byproduct of what they were doing in college. It's not a byproduct of coaching. It's not any scheme. Well, coaching is generally not good enough in the NFL from a positional standpoint. Yes. You're expected to know a lot on your own. But I would say if you're an older guy, like we had so many young guys in our room this year,

I wasn't able to do as much from a physical standpoint to help. But what I could do is build their confidence. invite them places, make them feel a part of the group. Because what's better than your weakest link being a hard ass? When I was in St. Louis, and we used to make the rookies get up and sing, and I have no problem with the rookies singing, but Jeff Fisher, when we did it, one day he stopped the whole thing. It was like, listen, that's the one thing.

You're not going to get up and humiliate these guys because we need them to win. And although I disagree with the singing thing, like in general, I need these guys to win. And if I respect you and treat you like a pro, you're going to act like a pro. If I treat you like a piece of shit, you're going to act like a piece of shit. And a lot of times these young guys,

I also on the flip side of the coin have problems with guys that won't even like get the chicken. Like, you know, most rookies have to get chicken before an away trip. Get a check for a Sunday morning. Like, that's all. Just you have one job.

I know that you're a practice squad guy and you were out getting drunk Friday night or your rookie, you know you're not going to play and you're out late and you're late to the Saturday morning meetings and you're scrambling getting on the bus. But you had one job as to get the chicken. And on the flip side,

of things I like we talked about earlier row if you never had to get the chicken bro like who are you to tell me to go get the chicken well there listen there there's certain things you have to do like a rookie dinner I had a rookie dinner that cost me 20 racks because I was the the first pick 20 grand I didn't blink because I knew if I didn't blink they're not going to treat me like shit the rest of the year there's places that you assert yourself and in that same night I hand the bill over no problem but there was one guy that kept grabbing louis the 13th bottles like he was going to take him to go Now I walked over to him and I said that's that's quite enough You know like just very like hey listen I respect you

Yeah but you're not gonna be doing we had a great dinner We had a great dinner don't ruin this right now and like I think that that's a perfect example Yeah No brook okay well then I'm gonna be smashing that bottle 100% on the side of your car No I get it I get it so there's limitations like which leads us into our next We cut hair right the rookies by the way and we used to fuck their hair up with... Oh, I remember those.

They stopped. Now, now, we cut hair if a guy was willing to do it. Now, if a guy has, like, dreads or long hair, like, we're not doing it, bro. So I think everybody needs to, from a rookie and a vet perspective when it comes to how you treat rookies,

the hazing, quote-unquote, like, hazing. You can kind of choose, it's a pick-your-own adventure as a rookie. Pick your own. Yeah, what do you want? Yeah. You want it to be, you play a lot of video games. Like, when I came in, I was like, yawking, do whatever you want. Yeah, like, put a tarantula in your bed. Like, put a tarantula in your bed.

Yeah, my rookie year, I'm in training camp. It still has not come out as to who it is. And that's how much gangsters these guys were. Well, they put a tarantula in your bed. You got back to this big. I'm watching some. We had a trachula. It was this big.

We had a trachula. It was way, way. The tarantula we seen from camp was way, way bigger than the one. Your brother brought on set. We had one here. Yeah. And a snake. I was in my bed.

watching Sopranos. Sure you were watching my rookie year, aka you know when I was watching and the spider was too because he tapped me and he was like, go back, right?

That's what he did. But I was like, holy shit! I jumped up at a band and I was at the end of the hallway in the dorm all of a sudden all the dbs

all the rookies are in my room with their phones out. Yeah. There is a tarantula in my bed. Oh, for sure. The next morning

everybody thought it was good. The second round pick John Bostic goes in his doff kit, tarantula. And it's, in his tooth, like toiletry bag. And somebody left like a pet smart bag in there too.

So somebody went and bought tarantulas. What happened to your tarantula? I called the police. Or like poison control. Like campus security. You're like the woman with the sunglasses in the bay. I said, Chris, at the picnic. I said there's a tarantula in my bed.

I don't know what to do with it. There's a tarantula. And they're like, there's no way there's a tarantula. That's what they said. And I said, get your guy over here. Get animal control over here. I'm not touching a tarantula. I got practice in the morning.

I touched the tarantula and I didn't have practice in the morning and I'm not that tough. Where was your tarant? Right here. Right here. I let him crawl all over my hands. See, I thought you watched the show. I watched a few interviews. I watched a few interviews.

Have you ever seen me on the show? No. See? Here's another one that annoys me. When you get back on the bus after a game, it's a free-for-all getting on the bus. There's no assign seating. When you get back on the bus after the game, don't be the guy that takes three hours and goes to the bus you were on the Quicks bus. There's five buses and pops on bus three

And you know you had a seat in the back left This is my seat This is where I rode over on the way No bro I ride bus two every day But if you were a guy that took too long Remember your seat Well it's the trickle down Is that not the way it is with you guys?

Well in locker rooms I was in It was get on the bus and find a seat Yeah I guess bus two In the Chicago Bears locker room There are certain spots Me and Lane Johnson just played it by ear Yeah

Playing music in the hotel when you're trying to sleep. I hate that. Guys on FaceTime late. Oh, just screaming on FaceTime. You're talking about like with roommates or like, No, guys in the next room. You're at the whatever shitty hotel you're day.

I would never rat any of my teammates out for talking to a bunch of girls, but one of them talked to girls all night on FaceTime. And I hear different accents through the wall. That's awesome. And I respect it. And it still can go out and ball out. I'm assuming some guys don't need sleep. No, what about I had a dude, Brian B. Price.

Shout out to B. Price. He had like. the sleep apnea so he had a machine and one night and I thought the machine was bad and one night he forgot the machine I almost had to get in the room oh yeah dude well he like was like I was scared I was I was scared there was something wrong with him the way he was like sleeping like yeah college you remember Brian Lesconach I had Brian sleep in the bathtub in camp and I didn't feel bad about it because it was my it was my problem he's sleeping he doesn't hear himself I mean like you got to go sleep in the bathtub man it's just says what it is I have I

I had Cliff Ryan, who was like a foghorn. And shout out to Cliff Ryan. Yeah, I'd like to get that machine. We never did roommates. No, well, after a couple years in the league, you can get out of that whole thing. Another one I have is coaches in first class. I have a huge, huge, huge, huge, huge issue with that. Then let's get right in.

That triggered me when you just said that. Oh, my God. It triggers me as well. Not just coaches. Oh, listen, the coaches don't deserve to sit in first class. you didn't do anything fucking physical. Why do you need the extra foot? Bill Belichick deserves to be in first class.

I feel like head coach. The irony is Bill Belichick was not in first class and I was playing this real quick. When I was there in 2006... But that doesn't surprise me. No, okay, so that's the point. If you're the guy with the biggest dick in the room and I'm not saying Bill's head...

This is a metaphor. Bill Belichick, huge dick, by the way. This is a metaphor. You don't need to drive the big truck, right? You don't need the truck that's, you know, the old adage, you know, like over compensation. and Bill Belichick, the goat, used to sit in coach. Now, I don't know that it was like coach, coach, but it wasn't first class.

He had an exit row. He might have been the exit row. But this is a guy, and I had Pat's fans. They had to get verbal consent from him. Yes, for sure. I'm willing and able, like, no, if you ask him if he's on to takeoff. He's like, we're on to take off. He's like, God, dude, fucking assholes.

He just, get the fucking plain. fucking plane off the ground. Hey. You're almost as nice as him as just like making your own like sweat cuts. Oh yeah. I actually, I was one of the people

to revolutionize the cut off hoodies. I can agree. I can agree with that. You can agree there, but you can attest. So Bill used to sit in the back and we used to sleep. We used to sleep in the great company man.

We used to sit in the sleeper pods, bro. And the only guys that sat in the back with the coaches were younger guys. And this was a, was really cool. That's the only place I've been where coaches didn't take the first class themselves. I know Pat's fans, if you're listening, are like, and I had this after the Rosillo pod when I talked about, oh, you don't even know that Pat's have their own plane, so this can't be true. In 2016,

we didn't have our own plane, and he sat in the back. That's just a fact. And other coaches I've had, do not sit in the back. Coaches I like, it doesn't make any sense. You know, like, it's a huge pet peeve of mine. You don't deserve it. I absolutely think that high-tier coaches coaching staff members should sit in the front their wives the GM the owners Virginia McCaskey absolutely these are people that's their team Virginia needs her own jet she needs a G5 does she has one no she flies with the team talk about some every man she is the most blue collar person I've ever met wakes up every morning great name wakes up every morning yeah yeah she goes to mass every morning 5 a.m every morning and then goes to the facility she

stops in all she wants is the bears to win But back to the plane. Yeah. You got dudes who are 350 pounds. Sitting in triple seats like boom, boom. Yeah, dude. Get out of here with that. Or like I sat by the door for seven years.

Yeah. With the big match and my head was like this. I mean, I couldn't sit up. You got guys laying on the ground, guys with back spasms, guys with full body cramps on the way back from a game, back there and coach, they're sitting there all crunched up. And it's not that they're trying to do us dirty. It's just the way that the NFL has always been.

It's not a player's league. And it's not so. something like let's consciously dick these guys I got plain envy when I look at baseball and basketball how many how many seats are really like how many first-class seats are there really it's the most popular sport in America fucking get your own plane or stick the coaches in the back because the coaches aren't riding four hours in a metal tube trying to stay hydrated and keep their hip flexors open before a three-hour fucking battle royale with Todd Gurley and the Rams or the

Niners and Iyupati like come on well in Canada, bro. You meet at the airport. You're a hand-jointed. Is that it? Did you guys meet at the airport? You take flights with regular people, bro. Really? I promise. My first away game. Air Canada.

Maple Leaf on the side of your plane. Yo, I'm sitting next to a mother and her daughter. Yo, yeah. Are you guys all on the same flight, though? Yeah. And there's real, there's other people. Like, they're filling that plane. That's cool, though. You're not chartering your own flight. You're not.

It depends on the organization. When I was at. Winnipeg. They're the jets. They don't even have their own jet. That's the hockey team. Unbelievable. We're the blue bombers. That's also a plane though. It is. You need to fly a B-52 in all just you need to fly a fucking B-52 to your game. They've got a naked lady painted on the side of your plane. Do you guys have any more pet peeves? Yeah, but I mean, how much time you got? I mean, give me your best one. You guys both get one more. They do veggie lasagna at the cafeteria. This is kind of like a weirdly specific one. This is like, come on, dude, veggie lasagna. I've sat, I've stood by the veggie lasagna. I've stood by the vegia.

lasagna in the calf before and I've counted the number of people who ate it I've still there the entirety of lunch yeah oh did you have a counter you're like you have nothing but time so it's like did you count in your head yeah no none nobody no clicks didn't even need to buy a clicker dude zero oh this is a big this is a big one probably wet socks or damp socks oh yeah who likes damps or when they dry your cleats yeah oh yeah the same thing it's and you get them no better way to do it though And not knocking Tony Medlin the best in the business, but you can't make magic happen. I'm going to say players that leave a bunch of trash everywhere.

We've all done it once or twice. You're in the building 12 hours a day. You're taking tape off. Your high drinks and water bottles. Just don't be a fucking dickhead about it. You're paid millions of dollars. Have respect. Clean up every yourself.

Ed Reed said it really well. It was a great speech. Love it. Your slow, your low life. Now, listen, I am a low life in that my, me and Michael Bennett, lockers next to each other talk about a lot of interesting conversations we call that your neighborhood

your neighborhood my neighborhood is as dirty as I wanted to be commutal trash can that buddy has to change every day and like in me and Mike's cul-de-sac there were like pieces of burning trash there were like abandoned houses there was like crying I lived in the trapping out the band I was the black market

until yeah the blockbuster trade or signing of Khalil Mack and when he moved in next door or locker there's like we have like eight lockers between us that's pretty damn cool there's a security security guard for the locker that's amazing they didn't have any security what they really needed to do was a security guard between me and mike so we didn't get too mad at each other arguing over stupid shit every day um but William hayes was my favorite locker made of all time for the record um big hey let's do uh let's do five stadiums five favorite stadiums uh that you play we're not

going to have to get time to get to them all. Nate, you can you can chime in. Um, my five, I don't know if it's in order. Um, I'm going to go with my five being Seattle. I played there for eight years, only one once, but I loved playing there every year. Um, you know, iconic noise. I think it's the loudest, toughest place to play. The weather is you can just, if it was madden, it was a default setting, 43 light rain and a bunch of, um, you know, crazy-ass hipster-looking people. The arrow and beyond green. Yeah, they're like, it's fucking loud.

You know, they raise the flag. I mean, it's just a cool place. And we had some battles there. Marchon Lynch, that whole group, Tom Cable O-Lines, Russell Wilson, and they always made a play late in the game. It'd be close, and they made one big defensive player or Russell, whatever.

But it's the loudest place. It's a beautiful city. And it was a lot of fun to play. And I imagine if I won there a lot, I liked even more. Orchard Park might be my favorite. it. I think that's what they call it still, right? It's not Orchard Park Stadium. This is in Buffalo. I have no idea. Buffalo Stadium is like a college stadium, bro. It's one of those places that

looks way bigger on TV, right? Oh, I got you. Yeah. Like the old Minnesota Gopher's stadium where the Vikings played. Yes. I mean, like, it's just the scale is hard to judge. It's a, it's a cozy place. It's an intimate rocket setting. You get batteries thrown at you on the bus. You get dildos thrown at you on the field. Purple dildos, you know, landing on the 15. bouncing to the 20 you've got referees having to handle them you have drunk obese dudes in sub-zero temperatures and you've got it you got fans that have all they've done is survive the three falls of buffalo and you know perpetual losing and they show up every week and they're fucking crazy candlestick for me was on the other coast a lot like orchard park in a lot of ways

raw energy old locker rooms something about going to the west coast to play it's just fun man you're just like it's almost a vacation and all the stadiums happen to be old school save for Seattle I never would let my mom or my wife wear Rams close that those games that was a big no-no I actually hired a cop to go with my mom and my wife most games um that's bread that's bread yeah I mean yeah I mean he's been doing this well I guess you guys don't I guess you guys don't give a shit about your wives and girlfriends see how what's your next stadium Chris my my next stadium is the is the Coliseum in L.A. not only played there a few times

but it was always cool because Pops played there Many reasons to try that. You know and I remember being Like tiny and seeing memories of that place. The stadium That was my first college start. Really? Yeah.

Oh, I remember that. Was I at that game? I was at that game. I was in those fucking concrete you know stands. Listen, the stadium is a piece of shit. But the moral of the story is If you're going to have a bad stadium,

just put a giant flame up there. You're talking about the Rams? You put the flame up there in the end zone And you're like this place is important Something's going on here I used to be playing in the game The baseball field No I'm talking I'm talking about the LA Coliseum

Oh You go there and you look up And I felt the history Because my pops played there and stuff And also when I played there I was playing against my old team So those two wins And you know they had the Olympics there

And like Yes And it's a majestic place It's a majestic place It's got a vibe although usually it was in a way team vibe more than anything the Rams had to go on silent count against us in 17 I can't imagine that pretty cool

I also like the soldier field you've heard of that one Kyle and of course the the pretext of this whole segment I think is the right word is that we can't say our own stadium so I'm not going to say the link I'm not going to say Gillette not going to say Edward Jones dome although that's got a lot of charm what a shit stop it

Soldier field I hate the head Jones do okay anyways the light was the biggest problem there was like that yellow lighting their team there a bunch of gangsters I hated playing them we were tough I don't know the name of it what some what's the Texansfields name energy I like that misspelled and RG but I love grass yeah they do have roll grass Arizona's nice as well because anytime you go to Arizona you're like this air

is just it's a beautiful stadium it's a beautiful stadium but it lacks the vibe that like a soldier field has the columns the history double doink that was cool too Kyle do you have any stadiums that you like Hmm. My, the first one that comes to my, Lambo. Not going to be popular with the Bears listeners. Yeah, but you know what?

They're like a close relative that we... Okay. Lambo? Yeah, I love Lambo. You can't say that, bro. I love Lambo. No, Lambo is cool.

I mean, it's... If you're a football fan and you're going to tell me straight to my face that you don't have an appreciation for the history of Lambo field that I'll call you a bullshit. Yeah, you're full of shit. Not what the Bears had on.

No, you're full of shit. I mean, like, I... No, I've been on teams that have beaten the Packers at Lambo. I think my big... Like, I have some good memories there. Monday night games. We've done awesome games there.

You've heard a lot of, dun, da-na-n-n-n-h-ch. Yeah. Go, pack. Dude, they, they, oh,

and they just like, again? I just want a bang-lia drum all day. They play that. I've never seen so many chicks pack dips, too. This conversation. Yeah, a lot of nicotine and a lot of fatties. This is a pet peeve playing Aaron Rogers. Yeah,

I'll add that to my pet peeve. That was a pet peeve. Just playing that robot at home, number two for me is, and I did. mine in order is Heinzfield. Okay. And a lot of mine are just because of my experiences and I remember playing Troy Palmao there.

Yeah. I was a rookie. You did your, you burned a red shirt. You're a senior year. You get's Pitt. Yeah. It's just a cool place. In the same sense that like University of Washington, they can pull the boats up. Like watch the games when the weather's right. That's what they do in Pittsburgh. You don't think of Pittsburgh is that.

No, I see why it's in there. I like that. Listen, I think it's cool that all the, here's one underrated. thing about Pittsburgh and it's kind of like Philly. All the sports teams are black and yellow. And I think that's super cool, right? In Philly, all the sports complexes are right downtown. That's really cool too. And in Pittsburgh, they play sticks.

That's the coolest part of that stadium. The rivers are cool, but when a renegade comes on. Yeah. And you're like, holy shit, they're excited. I'm excited too. That team was good. And I remember playing them and being like, okay, I'm in the NFL. Troy Palomalu is up in the A gap on the goal line.

And I remember a funny story. I said, we scored on a run play. He bluffed and dropped out. And we scored in the A-GAP. And I ran up to him. I said, I thought you were coming. He goes, so did I. And I said, oh, my God.

That's what I'm trying to fall mommy shot. I was like, oh, my God. Yeah, he's one of those people that. Just murdering people. Another guy on that team who doesn't sound the way to look is James Harrison. High-pitched voice. I never heard him talk. But one of the baddest motherfuckers that I've ever seen play football.

Number three, Levi Stadium. We played there on their first game. The maiden voyage of Levi. We titanicked Levi's Stadium. I think you Jack Sparrowed it. Yeah. Or not Jacks. Did you beat him?

Oh, we did. So you jack sparrowed it. I'll never forget that Saturday night or that that's Conler was balling. When the Kaepernick that we were talking about, I forgot who, I don't know if it was future or L.T. Genesis when like Tony Montana was out, and they had him live on the sideline.

Future. That's what they used to come out to like for their kickoff. and I've never seen a stadium. The kickoff thing, the kickoff thing. Yeah, the kickoff thing was tight. But like he's performing. On the sideline. On the sideline.

Not learning TV time now. No. Dude, listen. I'll never forget that. That was like, you can't replace candlestick with a, with a jeans name brand stadium.

You just can't. Candlestick was just so fucking lie. I like LeVos Stadium because we wore them out. But the way, the way locker room was pretty trashy. Oh, yeah. Candlestick? You remember it was right back

behind by that door that was like right out And there was like parking lot. Like someone could reach in there and punch with the face. You could be walking out of the locker room just to catch some air or to go like to do a number two and you could get just beat up in the locker room. Yes, it's right there for like the

way team. They got some beautiful cypress trees right out there in the parking lot. I remember it was at the end of the hallway. You go down two steps. You go down two steps again and you're out the tunnel immediately. So you have leave Vice third. What do you have? U.S. Bank and all these stadiums are ones that we've won at. I mean, I remember playing a

US Bank last year. We knocked him out of the playoffs and we clenched. The Galarhorn. Amazing. You actually know the name of it. Somewhere, and I don't know if I could spell it, G.J. I think. It's Nordic, so yeah, throw a J.J. Is it G. Jallorhorn? Jallor. All I know is that when that noise comes on, and I'm not rooting for the Vikings. No. When that noise comes on, my blood pumps faster. It's, it's, uh, that would be what's called. You might be a Viking.

I start looking for my, that's what that sword. You're like, oh, yeah. I got to go pillage. It's like when a dog hears a wolf on a TV and it's like, oh, the song of my people. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's primal, yeah, is the word, I think. Another primal thing, Tampa Bay, my next stadium.

Because you're a pirate because when the cannon goes off. Man, that cannon, bro. There's nothing like losing to the box. You said a fire makes it seem important. Well, how about a fucking pirate ship? Yeah, pirate's. Ship is going to really... Oh, ECU.

ECU. Listen, when you go to G Vegas and we went and lost, a lot of people have gone to G. Vegas thinking they're going to get a win. Yes. And they're not. No, they're not. Their quarterback was really good. I totally support pirate ships, and you guys, this might be a little, you know, what's the word?

I think it's esoteric would be the word. Not exoteric because only the people here know about it. But when you watch end zone tape of Tampa, you can always see that shitty grass parking lot above the scoreboard. There's a little truck. In the back left. Okay, so now that we're on that topic. Nobody talks about it. We just sit there and watch James Winston feeling.

You're like falling asleep at meetings. You're like, can Tampa Bay get a real fucking parking lot? You've got dudes parking under a palm tree. By the way, North Florida, you also have Jacksonville, which has a pool that's at least 30% filled with piss. You're in a year. Don't talk about Duval. Listen, the pool is disgusting. Are there other people that you've seen on film, Chris?

It's Corrine. We need to go to the pool. It's chlorine. We need to go to the pool. Like, I'll definitely go back to Jacksonville. In Jacksonville? No way. I'm not going to Jacksonville.

Why? Quick way to get... Chris almost got arrested in Jacksonville when he was 17. Oh, yeah. Well, we talked about that on this show with McGrath. I tried to buy... I was in Lansing. I was actually like 15.

Unbelievable. You ruined our vacation. You were on vacation with Mom and Dad? We had to come home early. You really didn't have to come home early. That's the thing. Just mom and dad is freaking out. Somebody had to set the record with you.

Well, I turned out okay. I got my own podcast. So as far as I can tell all this shit doesn't matter. Let them know, Chris. Another one I want to put in honorable mention for just being talked about is Dallas. I'm not a big fan of, but it's like you feel like you're a character in the hunger games and everybody's watching you and you're just this piece of meat behind the glass

and like... And you walk through the bar. And you walk through the bars at the bottom. By the way, the tunnel to get in, the buses go about a mile, right? And then you get in and you walk out of the glass and everybody's like, animals! Loose to the Cowboys animals! The animals are here. are you.

And then, and then like, all it's missing is Java the hut up there, like with the cheerleaders spinning around on, they're like,

the cheerleaders are on like platforms that if they fell off of, and I don't know if this is true, this is in my mind's eyes. Is this how it is really? Do you remember it this way? Well, it's like in the Duke Nucombe with the dancers and the street.

Exactly. In Duke Nukems. With the pigs with the shotgun? Yeah. Yo, what about, what about how they put? They got a Ford truck

spinning around on a fucking, how about your family? You have a dealership. How about your, Family is like legit like two miles away from the field, the family section. Oh, you're terrible. No, that was a game that dad was able to go to.

Yeah. And, you know, dad works on Sunday. So when he can come to the game, it's Monday or Thursday. Yeah. And dad was in the dugout suite right there in the end zone. Yeah. I remember we got our asses kicked, but it was super cool to see him. And it was like, I'd break the huddle, turn, and I'd make eye contact.

Is this good enough, dad? You can relate. That's really how it is. You break the huddle and you're like. You look at him and you give him the nod. and he's like, that's good enough. See, that's the thing. I'm not going to...

Chee cold. Remember, you're the lab. Well, that's the super cool. You're the lab. I'm like, I don't fucking care. Serena Williams' coach got in trouble for that during the match. I need the pat on the head, yeah. Doing that, doing that quick thumbs up that your dad gave you.

That's what Serena William when she got in trouble in her last, like one of her last matches. Damn, dude. What they said. They're out to get Serena. Like, that's cheating. That's a cheat. You can't just get tips from your dad during the game. You just can't get thumbs ups?

No. This is a baseball and a football podcast. We want. watch baseball, we talk football. I'm not really into to golf. Nice kind of attempt. But let's continue. I'm going to go.

I'm going to go with, yeah, Oakland has a baseball field in the middle and you don't want to fall on it. I thought it was just an infield, and they didn't have an outfield. Listen, at the end of the day... That's what I thought you were talking about. You're worried about falling on that field.

Like, if you're going to make a tackle, you're like, this is going to hurt. You're not trying to. I wonder what the stat is, and maybe somebody can pull this up, miss tackles by yard line in that stadium. I bet you people are missing a lot of tackles midfield because they're trying to arm tackle.

They don't want to lay out and land on that fucking sandlot. Or how much situation? How much dead skin is on that? Yeah. Yeah. You can't. How do you dig in with your cleats? You know, like you're Frank Thomas.

You know, like, sorry, bro. Ken Camannitty. Like you're fucking on the hot corner. Like you're another third baseman. Ryan Zimmerman. Oh, yeah. Wahua. Wahoo, that was a good one.

Okay, so let's do five most intimidating linemen we've played against her with. Kyle, you can start off. You'll do Dean Lyman. I'll do O-Lyman. We'll go bang, bang, bang, back and forth. I think you do your whole list. Greg Hardy. Enough said.

Jeremiah Ratliff. Jeremiah Ratliff. Absolutely. So Jeremiah Ratliff, when he came to the Chicago, I had heard that a guy was coming to our team who had planted grown men on walls that told him things he didn't want and I said there's no way this guy

exists and I'm in the trainer room busting balls with the trainers and shit and you know they always walked a new guys in the training room and in walks him and I turned to somebody else and I was like does he play O-line or D-Line and somebody was like that's the new detackle Jeremiah Ratliff and things got

very very real for me. That's the human forklift that's going to put you up in your lock his beard was like it was like he had the Rick Ross beard but then he had like the Xerxes build like the dude was just cut from an oak tree and not only that

he was the angriest motherfucker I'd ever played with just grumpy old man and not to like and we both had really good dealings with Jeremiah I love Jeremiah or Jay depending on this is another thing the motherfucker changed his name and you better respect it I'm not gonna tell him

that his name is not Jeremiah no and his locker was next to mine because Tressman always put everybody what do you want your name to be today sir and every once in a while I'd be like rat whatever you want to do you tell me mm-hmm because they want me to be a guy but if you whatever you want today he's like hey minute let's just keep this thing simple and this is jeremiah rat lift this is jeremiah ratlift I thought it was yesterday no it's every day and he was a good he was such a great player yeah he was a really good player man and I heard he was five times better when he was in Dallas.

Oh, he was a stud in Dallas. Hold on, I'm not done. Oh, Sue in Detroit. Another guy had to play early in my career. Brett Kiesel, pushed me over piles and laughed at me. We had him on the show the other one. When I called him out, I was like, really?

And he was like laughing at me. I was a little kid. He's just shoved me around. He was super cool on the show the other day. I did not expect him to be that shell. He evidently was not on the field. Cliff Averill in Seattle, one of your favorite guys and stadiums.

Counterparts here. Same drafts. Flats. Jimmy Cawson was playing quarterback. Jay was hurt. I forget what he was hurt with. And Cliff April, it was like two-minute drill. We've been throwing since the first quarter because we're down by 40. And Cliff hasn't gotten a sack yet. And he's smiling because he knows he's going to get one. And he's telling me, I'm going to get it. Man, Russian and Seattle had to be cool. And him and Mike Bennett next to each other. In a 40 alignment. With the seven technique and a nine technique presents so many more issues to offense alignment than you can think of. Yes.

It's where the D-Tackle on the D-end line up both outside the tackle. But Mike is going to rush the way he wants to rush. And Cliff can vibe off that. When Mike came out with his book, Things That Make White People Uncomfortable. And by the way, he's a great buddy of mine. I used to tell him, I think he'd write a book called How to Make White Pass Rushers Uncomfortable, because you're always in my fucking rush lane. Like, he lines up outside the tackle.

And I'm like, bro, I don't know if you realize this. Like, I'm 33 now. This isn't like when you were with Cliff. And, you know, I could just, you know, I have power. I do power stuff. I do inside moves. Yeah, I would say it's a great under the radar picking clip. And honorable mentions, I would say Troy, because he played on the last grimers so much,

Paul Malu. I would also say Justin Smith and my guys, Akeem and Cleo. Man, Justin Smith should have been at the top of the list. My man has a tiny Anheuser-Busch tattoo. The smallest. And he was Vic Fangio's number one goon for a long time. Yo, you're a cloud. The tattoo just means that like...

What does that mean? The small tattoo... Whatever it means is that he is like... Huge man. That you load that guy up with Anhydr. Bush products, he's going to beat up a grizzly bear. I saw him last year for the first time in seven years. So Vic was our defensive coordinator for the bears

and obviously historically successful decontinator. He was Justin's guy in San Francisco. The game at Levi's when we beat him, I had the assignment to trap block. him yeah and I remember I was like I have to kill this guy because if I don't kill him yeah he can get up and kill me uh-huh and I he didn't see me come and I hit him good and he left his feet yeah there's nothing he could have done no when I saw him next was last year in the tunnel after a game a long and I turned and a giant cowboy

was coming at me in the parking structure and he's like I owe you an ass whooping for that trap in 2013 and my mom was mom was with me and she's like You know him? And I was like, that's Justin Smith. No, it's a fucking rancher, mom. It's just the rancher that magically... He is huge still. Bro, you're like, yeah, he's like, yeah, I remember back of the Alamo.

I owe you that one. You hit me with that... Dude. With that musket. Respect, Justin. Yeah. Badass. Total badass.

I would have thought he'd been on top of the list. Obviously, the guys you mentioned in the end are total badass as well. I'm going to go with Steve Hutchinson, who I played in Minnesota. He has a head the size of a smart car. Um, easily, if I have any tau protein, at least 33% is from lining up in a three technique, one play and having to bang heads with him. I mean, he's just got one of those domes. Yonda, by the way, is one of the most underrated players in the history of the game. Greatness.

A Hall of Famer for sure, and a Super Bowl this year would put the, you know, the cherry on top. You're really rolling with them. Yeah, I'm burning the ships. It's a lot like Virginia over tech. Prior to him hurting his ankle, and he's still elite right now. Prior to him hurting his ankle, I think he was in the running for the best player in football. Yeah, I agree with you. Now here's...

And you would never give that general. Relative to his position, and we get in the same thing with Quentin Nelson is like, just because you're a guard doesn't mean you can be the best, if you could define the best player in football, I think a lot of it is based on the distance between you and the second best player. And for those two guys at different times, the distance has been sizable. But for me, it's like that he's this psychotic children of the corn-looking ass, dude that just it's like he spawned out of a cornfield and rode a tractor to the game and all he's

going to do is keep a fucking hand on you for 60 minutes he's never going to leave you alone and he never gets mad he just gets even and he doesn't he does not stop and that's the most uncomfortable thing for de lineman is a guy that will not stop the last little shove it doesn't have to be dirty shit not talking shit he's just always going to be right behind you after the play you're like somebody just push me and he's just looking at you and he's like walks back to the huddle You know, he's like, walks back to huddle. When I first met him, hammers an ear of corn.

When I first met him, I'd only see him on film, Chris. And I didn't know how he was. And I said, Marshall, I'm Kyle, nice to meet you. And he turned him. He goes, we were on the way to the Pro Bowl, on the bus. And he was like, don't talk to me before the game. And not in a mean way.

In like, I just don't like to talk before the game. And after the game, he walked up and was like, hey, man, I did nothing personal. Like, I was just getting ready for the game. Very professional. Yes, dude, that's him. That's him. There's nothing.

And it's just like on the field. There's no ill will. That's how he's wired. He's just wired, bro, to be a little different. And hats off to Marshall. He's Olin Kruits. He's on my list high. I mean, he was in the league.

That was a few of our guys like God. Yeah. When we got to the bears, that's what they were modeling. That's what they were trying to model him after. Everyone is like, yeah, you need to be like. I'll never be old. Yeah. Yeah, but you know what?

You've been pretty good. Olin is the baddest motherfucker that I've been around. Yes, dude. And his name rings bells. Let's put it that way. Rings bells. And his face is doing as well, I'm sure. Uh-huh.

Wayne Hunter, he was a guy I played with for the Rams. A lot of people might know Wayne Hunter. Look up Wayne Hunter. Physically as imposing as anybody I've been around. and a guy that you did not want the switch to flip. Harvey Dahl was another one who was Yonda-ish in Atlanta for a long time at Guard, would not leave you alone, complete psycho. Looks like Christopher McCandless coming out of the woods and into the wild.

Yeah, like he lives on a bus in Alaska. And then after he played and we were teammates, I loved them. I love playing with him. That's how it is with these guys who don't leave you alone. but after he played he dropped down like 200 pounds. So, yeah, then he started to look like Christopher McCandless three weeks in.

So he's somewhere between Hardwick and McCandless. Yeah, something like that. And I love Hardwick's transition. Joe Thomas, but Joe Thomas looks like he's swole. Harvey just got like kind of, brough. Like he's just been catching waves and good vibes.

Stewart was the guy in Tennessee for a long time, number 76 he was a big right tackle he was dirty and he was also he didn't intimidate me because i actually like i one year i was supposed to play him i really wanted to play him because i thought i could have gotten after his ass he was top heavy but he was a guy that you knew would do some dirty shit and i imagine he talks like the guy in men of men in black uh you tell i've you see my cat sugar more water sugar my guy my guy would try try try try try There's a guy in Charlottesville that works at the gas station that talks like that. Well, I got to go find him.

Yeah. Because he might be the guy from the Titans. Might be. He's a guy that I wonder what he's doing after games. Kyle, um, quick, uh, quick lightning round before you let you go because this is a megapod extravaganza for people on Saturday mornings after Thanksgiving. Um, I want you to explain something to me because you're a huge fucking nerd when it comes to video games and technology. I'm assuming you're saying that in a different way. It's an endearing statement.

You see we have a lot of machinery back here. Can you name any of this equipment that we have back here? Tripod. Microphone. But that's not back there. Camera two. Camera one, camera two. I know there's some mixers back there.

Mixers, you got those. So when you get on your, can you explain to the people at home what you do in your basement most of the time? So I don't do it in my basement. Oh, you've upgraded. Okay. So I enjoy playing PC games. I've always been into video games. I don't know why this is so funny.

I was sorry, I read a funny text. I had nothing to do with you. And Chris has always loved to make fun of me for it. But, you know, we're both big nerds in the sense that we like to play video games in the sense. If you want to say that, people that play video games are nerds, sure. Cross-platform. So what's the difference?

Yeah, I mean, because when I see someone with an alienware laptop, I'm like, wait, you play video games on your laptop, but I get it. I enjoy it with you. I enjoy it with you. I enjoy the PC gaming because I'm not good at aiming with the sticks. You're not good with a joystick. No, my hands or either my hands are two, or I just can't figure it out.

But I like the mouse and keyboard. As a young kid, I played CounterStrike. And I'm sure there's a lot of people that play games that grew up playing CounterStrike without even realizing they did. And then, you know. You mean like, was CounterStrike, did other games rip off CounterStrike? What do you mean? Because I didn't play Counterstrike.

Counterstruck was a first person shooter that a lot of people played that had a computer. Like if their parents had a computer at home, it was an easy game to get on Steam. I had Swamp Gas. Do you remember that game? I had Icey Towers. I had Sim City, which by the way. Sim City, yeah. No, I see Tower?

No. Damn, you guys, I also, I also enjoyed, like, games from my childhood to date myself was like, easily I was damn near grown up when Crash Bandicoot came out,

et cetera. But you play these games, like I see you playing games, and by the way, you Twitch, which is evidently where you get online and people listen to you talk. I have streamed on Twitch.

I do have a Twitch channel. It's essentially like having a podcast while you're playing games. And really, for me, it takes off a lot of the pressure and, like, because there is a lot of pressure because if you die in the video game

it takes away it takes away a lot of the pressure of having a camera on in front of me and it gives me an opportunity to interact with people I've also been up and I have Water Boys which is well we appreciate that by the way to your

to your credit and you've been great for Water Boys you have raised a lot of money a lot of ducats and not Bitcoin real money on Twitch yo stop it I know I do that

because he's a big Bitcoin guy used to have a Bitcoin I have interest in this Bitcoin stuff. I don't know what it is. I'm sure I'm going to get just lambastard. Let's just stick to the video games. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. So I watch you play these games and it's basically a guy running around with a backpack across some expansive landscape. It was like, I found

some apples. It was like 10 points and you're like I have found myself I have found myself drawn to games where I can immerse myself in the landscape. So there's one game that I've really been into is Daisy and it's in a post-apocalyptic, Soviet

run down you know imagine 36 by 36 kilometers 36 kilometers 6 kilometers squared has to be

kilometers is the red euro baby it's the red country the red country and just essentially you know

looting shooting and scooting baby like it's just a lot of fun it's high risk high reward because if I if you get shot in these games

you lose all your gear and that can be tough because I've seen you pick up a lot of like wrenches and milk and different loose weaponry that's just laying around these. You got to build this stuff. So it's like you may find a magazine.

You may find some rounds that don't match the magazine. So it's different than GTA, though. It's a lot different. GTA is so casual. Just hop on play, like enter a cheat or whatever. And you got all the guns. You got all the cars. I feel like that was a diss.

Do you feel like you escape into this imaginary world because you don't like this world so much? I think it's honestly an escape. like that black mirror stuff. I mean, it's, that's a, you know what black mirror is. You know what black mirror is. Yeah, it's where you shut your phone off and you're staring into your eyes. Yeah. But all of it. That's all. Everything here is a black mirror. It is working right now. Absolutely. I don't know what the fuck that means. But so what you're describing is the bloody merry thing where you stand when you shut your phone off. When you, it's a black mirror.

I don't know what you mean. No, that's a TV. Chris looking at when it's off, it's a black mirror. No, not really. It's not a great mirror. I can't see. Okay, look in, look into my phone. What is it? Black Mirror. I see You're a screen Smart as I see your dog,

your German Shepherd that you're training to like Never mind I mean like You have a German shepherd That you take By the way

For the listeners Out there To some training facility That has a bunch of karate Style trophies on the wall And there's like a real owner And like Kyle's in there

Holding the dog back And it's like bear Bear! No! Attack bear! No I think it's... Sit! The dog is in Virginia now

I met the dog the other day The dog is down in an office downstairs. The dog, I asked the dog to sit. Dog didn't sit. Doesn't listen to you. I didn't see this happen. My dogs only listen to my wife, unfortunately. Well, Kyle's dog is evidently only listened to the guy in a fucking ghee

with a bunch of trophies on the wall. With a ball of clava on. Who's teaching him how to, like, you know, attack the intruders. The intruder is going to be really upset when the intruder makes his way through the dog and then you're at the bottom of the stairs. It's like, fuck.

This is the boss. Not the last. This is the boss. Speaking of bosses in video games, are there bosses in these games you play? No, well, essentially it's all PVP. So it's player versus player. Obviously.

And the boss is the guy who is very patient. ASL. AASL. That's different. These are different things. What does ASL mean? Age sex location, I believe. Kyle, I know that.

I grew up in the AOL era. What is the word ASMR mean, the acronym? Explain what you were explained. I think it's an auditory stimulation massage and relaxation or something like that where people are such a noise that makes you feel good to be like hey Chris

we have great mics so the people you're telling me about people there are Nate you can't do it your mic's different there are yeah this mic's better so like I can touch it and like and you can hear it and you can almost feel it it's like another sense people have like ceramics and stuff and they put it up to the

like this is pages flipping and like people will watch YouTube videos that shit yeah you said something about women's fingernails so like fingernails tapping stuff scratching like ceramics here's a better one for you i'm gonna start an as mr channel and make it really soothing for a while and then get people roped in and just be like fuck and the guy's gonna be like you know but hopefully not jack it but like you know like getting into it ruined and then just ruin their entire experience what about muck bang have you seen that what muck bang i think it's I think we're going sideways.

I heard what he said and I'm still like, what? We're going sideways. Before we get off to, I'm not, Nate, I don't want to know what it's eating. Muck banging or muff banging is. People pay to watch other people just eat. Really? Yes. Like, people like who are on diets and stuff.

So it's like cuff holding for. Oh my God. For people on diets. Yes. It is. It is. So, Kyle, you have a giant race car bed, right? Is that, is that correct?

I do. I enjoy driving in motor sports. But not driving in real life. You drive fake cars. I am not allowed to drive in real life because I'm contractually. You can say you don't enjoy driving. You just drive face. I have a simulator at my house.

Essentially imagine sitting in an F1 car, take the wheels off. That's easy for me to imagine. Well, I mean, it's like, you know, you get in and I have triple monitors, so like wraps around me. And it's essentially like you're driving. And it's, you know, it's as close to the real thing as you can. They did it. There's a race. No, there's a racer now.

There's like, I think he's black. He started like in Europe and he, this simulator got him into, he's really racing now. So Kyle, do you think you can race one day? I 100% can race. That's the, yeah, that's crazy. But what about the fact that the cars would have to get larger. That's what I was just about to say. It's like the Derek Zoolander car for kids who don't drive good and small cars.

That's what I'm saying. That would definitely affect though, right? Your bottom speed of effect though, right? I don't know if you know this. Dad did racing. Dad, yeah, I mean, like, you know, enough about dad, Kyle. Seriously, you love dad. There's racing that doesn't involve many cars.

Dad doesn't give a shit about your video games, bro. I was talking to him the other night and he said, I don't give a shit about his video games. He said, screw those games. No, he just was like, it's not even real racing. He's a fake car. Kyle's on these damn fake race cars hanging out with Dale Jr. But you do hang out with some people on the online. I would say that the opportunities afforded to me through the internet

and gaming have been so, so, so awesome. And it's been an experience for me in a ride that I don't want to end and I think will continue and will continue to progress. I've been in NASCAR races. I've been in racing lobbies with real drivers. You haven't been a NASCAR racing. Here's what I'm wondering. No, I've been to NASCAR racing.

I've been to a NASCAR race. And everybody wears their headphones. And Kyle Busch, by the way, is the champion, by the way. And everybody who was talking about that 18 car, come on now. Come on, he's just Ricky Bobby on. This is the voice he does when he's on the car. Wheel man. Wheelman.

Yeah, for sure. Pit crew 500. Them too. But my thing is that do you think that it's dangerous to get so immersed in a, you know, a lot like the reason porn is unhealthy for men in their real sex lives? It's a real conversation, by the way. Do you think that the fake driving is going to affect the real driving? You know, it's funny.

Is it unhealthy for you? day-to-day. Would you think that it would make me drive faster or slower in real life? I'm not sure. Seriously. You think you drive slower because you get all your willies out. I feel like by the time I get in my car and, you know, I drive a fast, I have a fast car at home.

I have one car. It has the ability to go fast. But I don't really like to go fast in it because I've been. Until you do. It's kind of like that couple that's going through something and the guy's been watching too much bad stuff on the internet. And you don't, you don't want to go fast until you do. And then it's like, where did you fucking learn that?

And where do you expect that that's normal? For me, I learned it on the internet. That's what's going to happen to you in a car one day. You're going to be just 35, 35. And you're like, oh, I want to go fast today. It's like the Matrix. Huh? Where they plugged him in.

And all of a sudden he goes, I just learned Kung Fu. Like, he spent about 400 hours in a Kung Fu simulator in his mind. So that's what's happening to you. Eventually, you're going to be a world-renowned NASCAR player. or maybe the government's training you for something that you don't know yet Kyle and Nate um Kyle and Nate um Kyle and Nate we have crossed the finish line of this pod this is good and it was a it was a photo finish as they call it guess what the results are in you guys tied you guys were both awesome congratulations appreciate it again we taped this on a

Wednesday a lot can change I hope everybody had a really good Thanksgiving thanks Thanks to these guys in all seriousness. It's great to have my brother home. It's great to still have friends. Shout out to Kelly Bruns turkeys. Happy Thanksgiving. Oh, yeah. You work on a turkey farm too.

You want to say something about that? Yeah. Shout out to Kelly Bronze turkeys. What do you do on that farm? You know, we get turkeys ready for families to eat. And then you murder them. I think we'll end there. That's fun, man.

Yeah. Thanks for watching both parts of, Greenlight episode 10 we did not intend on it being very long but I have my brother in one of my college teammates is tech week it's Thanksgiving I want you to know I'm very thankful that you are watching this YouTube channel or listening on Spotify Apple music all that stuff so please keep supporting green light if you like it from the bottom of my heart I'm very thankful that you are listening