Green Light with Chris Long - Pat Maroon! On 3-Peating, Dropping The Cup & NHL Fighting. Chris & 'Dr. Facts' On Revised Sack Numbers & 'Easiest' Olympic Sports.

Episode Date: July 16, 2021

(01:47) - Hello and College Stories. (15:31) - Layup Line: The Lox and Dipset. (26:52) - Giannis and the Tinkle. (44:04) - Reid Roulette: Richard Sherman, NFL Sack Leaders and Reggie Bush Documentary. (59:00) - Pat Maroon on 3-Peating the Stanley Cup, Boat Parades, Beer at the Press Conference, Playoff Fighting, The Covid Cup and The Difficulty of Repeating as Champions. (1:35:13) - Chris and 'Dr. Facts' Talk 'Easiest' and 'Hardest' Olympic Sports and Preview The Lox and Dipset 'Verzuz' Battle. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Download the win-bet app, now or visit w y n n bet.com download bet win and let's get after it terms and conditions apply must be 21 or older and present in state where win bet is available gambling problem call 1 800 270 7117 it's like gta dude like people are in all types of vehicles didn't someone dent it didn't someone drop it you're talking to him bro he dropped it Yeah, man, it was a complete, complete action. Macon is out. Dr. Fax is in the building.

Some of you all know, Dr. Fax, my former teammate, NFL veteran, defensive tackle, Nate Collins, Virginia Cavalier. And just all-time great guy. He's in here stepping in for Macon. Macon had to do a, well, Macon reminded me that when he signed his contract, when I went out west, he'd be doing one day a week. So making his home today with his lovely family. Dr. Fax is in the building. He's keeping the seat warm. And Cowboy Reed, you had a welcome of sorts for Dr. Fax. Indeed, here goes. The guy asked me to negotiate a contract. I say, okay, I have only one question. When you're in Montana, what's it going to look like for me? Guy comes back. He says, you're one a week,

one a week, one pot a week. I say that sounds terrific. A little bit of a break for me while you're on vacation. Now I come to learn that there's a guest co-host? What on earth? I mean, I thought you were going to get some reps-in solo. Guest co-host? Awesome. Here's something else.

I'm driving in a car, hands-free, chill out, just went over some railroad tracks. Here's something else. Cowboy Reed's crunchy ass, Taylor, I don't care who it is. We need to order new ear things. The rubbery things that go over the ear things, we need new ones of those. I can't be coming in every day putting Howie Long's ear buds into my ears. Putting C-Long's earbuds into my ears. Putting Dr. Fax earbuds into my ears.

I need my own rubbery ear things to go over the ear things. Goodness, gracious. Guest co-host? Guest co-host? Facts, I hope you brought some white owls and you could just stink up the studio. So when he comes back in on Monday, he just hates you even more. Oh, man, I got it covered. I might even leave him, leave him a joint here for him because he needs to chill out.

I know, right? Look at you. You got the headphones on. Funny thing is usually making and I wear those little ear buds. That's funny hearing that because. that's the first thing I told I have we read here. I was like, please give me

some earphones because I'm not putting these buds in my ear. And to address the in-ear earbuds, we have acquired some in-ear earbuds to appease Macon. I sent him the video and he was like, oh, wonderful. He never had

Howie Long's earwax in his ears just to set the record straight. And I've seen my dad. My dad will Q-tip the fuck out of his earhole. So, like, he's totally clean. We're glad to have Dr. Fax in studio. Dr. Fax, do you have any questions about your surroundings, your job today? The only thing I'm a little questionable about is not knowing what these candles really mean, especially. Yeah, the prayer candles. That's the angel of death. Yeah. Santa Morte.

Yeah, it's for the shrine. We like shrines for people from time to time. If somebody's slum, and we light a shrine for him. You know what? Throw him a lighter. Let's light a shrine for CP3. Because people were saying CP3 looked 36 last night. We will talk about, we will talk about CP3. You can't light prayer candles very well with a Bick lighter. You need one of those long reach joints. Oh, well, but, um, this one's not.

Yeah, light that up. Light that up for CP3. We're gonna get him back on track, put some stick them on his hands. Yeah, we'll talk about basketball a little bit. little bit. We will talk about Janus's block. Is Janus's block the best NBA finals block of all time? Obviously, there is, and Nate's shaking his head. That's a little preview to what he thinks about that block. Obviously, everybody harkens back to the LeBron block, game seven of the finals a few years back. That's the first game Whalen ever saw at a bar. We took him to Fitzroy. Shout out to Kevin Backy. And we had a baby in the bar, in a stroller at nearly midnight. But it was that kind of momentous event.

We'll weigh those two options. Janice's block. LeBron's chase down block in a little bit. We got Pat Maroon joining us. Now three time. Three time. Three Pete. NHL Stanley Cup champion started with the Blues.

Now back to back with Tampa Bay Lightning. Tampa Bay, the new Boston, city of champions. The Marina City. They do their parades on boats down there, Nate. Yo, it looks super lit. And I'm a huge fan of the beach and the water. So I could just imagine a boat parade is, sounds right up my alley. And I do know how to swim.

I feel like it does intensify your drunk. My beer count on the river, like, is probably an average of six at this point. And in college when we used to go. No, yeah, for sure. And I, and I think back, that's what I always do. I think in my head, how did I do this, like, when I was in college? Like, I don't, I don't, like, it's. unfathomable how I can think about how we used to pass bottles around mixed drinks,

beer, liquor, didn't really matter. Yeah, it didn't matter. Didn't matter. You go from Fireball to Vaca to Scotch to, you know, like there was no, oh, you, anybody have any tankeret? We're out of booze. Like, don't care. We could go from gin to whiskey to like a margarita mixer.

It doesn't matter. Pepperman schnops. Oh, dude. Hey, listen, since we're here, do you want to do? tell that story in the open. So one of the first times going out as a freshman, Chris, is trying to show off in front of, it's like a few of the freshman football players,

and we had a few girls from our dorm. And one of the girls was like, yeah, you can't chug, like, you can't chug this. And Chris was like, who can't? And Chris took a full bottle of peppermint snobs, and he chugged it to the barcode. The barcode at the bottom, there was probably, when he was done with it,

there was probably four shots maybe left in this bottle. And just his face and his demeanor of after he finished this bottle, he went into the shower and all of us sat there and talked was like, is he going to be okay? Like he's not going to come out the shower. And probably two minutes later, he busts out the shower, runs out of his dorm, runs,

does a lap and then runs back inside. And he's like, don't you ever challenge me? don't you ever challenge me drinking and then like he'd said something else but it was a you're leaving one thing out which is that was after a bottle of 99 bananas yeah like it was already like a crazy a crazy night and those liquors now thinking about it i probably would gag even like smelling a bottle of like i could just remember that the smell of 99 bananas how much sugar that liquor has in it like it just uh it had more

More than the 99 apples, which was disgusting in and of itself. Like, listen, we used to, the thing about going to college and being suddenly of age where you can go to the ABC store, I don't know what they call your liquor stores wherever you're from, but like when you can go to the ABC store suddenly, you don't get basic stuff. You're like, oh, I think I'll try this flavor of this thing. You know what I mean? Like you try every corner of that liquor store. And what happens along the way is you have nights like that night where you go 99 banana.

to peppermint snobs. And I didn't enjoy the taste of peppermint, the smell of peppermint. I didn't like looking at peppermint for the first six years of my career. So we got Pat Maroon on today. He's a perfect guy to talk alcohol with. I think he's been drunk for six days. After he won the cup, I, of course, congratulated him. And then I saw him in one of his Instagram pictures looking like he had no idea where he was,

not even what planet he was on. And I zoomed in on his puffy face. And I texted him. And he said, I've been drunk for five days. So we're going to have Pat Maroon on. He's probably coming back down to Earth a little bit, which is a painful process at this age, staying on the topic.

We got some housekeeping to do. We have some Olympics to talk about. Olympics are coming up. We're going to give you our five can-dos and our five can't-dos. And, of course, the age-old debate. the locks or dip set. Us too, we have PhDs in this music. And they have a versus coming up August 3rd.

So I said, Dr. Fax is in the building. This is perfect, dude. This is the perfect co-host to tackle this question. But most of all, I want to welcome back, Cowboy Reed. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, Cowboy Reed. Where did your travels take you?

We went a few places. We took I-40 all the way across. the southwest ended in Arizona up near the Grand Canyon, then we went north into Dinosaur National Monument in Utah, Colorado, then took a stop in Steamboat Springs, Colorado, and then took 70 and 64 all the way back, Charlottesville.

How much pow-pow? Oh, tons. So much pow-pow you wouldn't even, I mean, not just in Colorado, but Arizona and Utah also had some pow-pow. I mean, we were up at least 10, 12,000, feet and we found some plenty of fresh narnar did you hit the fridge breck and fridge no we did not get a breck and fridge we went to the boat yeah well next time hit some black diamonds before you

come back if you don't hit black diamonds next trip you're not welcome back in the studio read come on is that skiing terms yeah skiing bro i've never been skiing Dead Redemption. It's probably a little late to start, I think. You think so? You think so. Also, wait, sorry. So I had waited a long time to talk about Cordellane, Idaho on the show, because I've got a good friend, Ryan Murwede, who is a long-time loyal listener, works at the Cortalane Bike Company.

And you guys talked about Cordelaine while I was out on my adventures. And I heard it on the show when I was listening in the car. and I had waited a long time to talk about Cordillane with you two and now you guys had talked about it on the show the other day. Well, you sound kind of obsessed with Cortalain there, Reed. Hey, man, you go to Cortal Lane. You will be obsessed. That is the home of Jake the Snake Plummer.

He lives just north of Cortland. Oh, my boy, Jake the Snake. Also, Gelden Soire, NHL badass lived up there in Porta Lane. I was just looking at one of his pictures last night. Like, where the fuck are you? It looked like they were having the last supper on top of a mountain there. Perfect light. The golden hour.

Shout out to Sheldon. Yeah, Cordillane. Maybe I need to check it out. I'm tasked with saying hello to Chandler, Arizona. That's from my trusty co-host, Macon, who's out today. But he said to say hello to Chandler, Arizona. So, hello, Chandler, Arizona. I don't know much about it.

I know the Cameron Jordan's from there. And I know that, is it, which, who's the wrestler from me? Cam Jordan, this one? Yeah, Cam Jordan's from there. I think there's like a Sean Michaels maybe from there. Does that sound right? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know much about Chandler.

Don't know why he picked it, but we're going to get that map up and put the green pins every time we say hello to a listener. Thank you, Purple Sunset. Wherever they're growing, purple sunset, keep growing it, grow a bunch of it. People you should try it. Purple Sunset, it's not always about the THC percentage there, Nate, would you say? Yeah, it's definitely not. It's not all about that. This thing was 17%. Now, again, I was talking to somebody about this last night.

In the 60s, the counterculture folks were smoking like 5% like grass. They were smoking grass. And then like every decade it went up. Like the fact that we could smoke Bob Marley out, probably being true, is remarkable to think about. But that's what they're doing now. And I'm not somebody who's like, hey, make it stronger. I think 25 is plenty strong, and I think 25 you should keep that on the top shelf away from anybody who hasn't smoked before. But this purple sunset comes in at about 17, and it's an indica. I just had some really low stuff when I was in Denver. It was like 11%. So NYC Diesel, and it was a really, really good chill, cool high.

And it's funny because I was like, I'll just get like one bottle of this because I don't know about it being 11%, but 11% is probably significantly higher than what you're usually smoking, like when you're not in the dispensary. So I guess so. I don't smoke anything.

This is not good anymore, but like, you know, like for me, 17, that doesn't scream at you, but I got to tell you, I just melted away

and gazed off into that purple sunset. Listen, layup line today is going to fit the occasion. And I said, Nate, your task with picking a Locke song. That, of course, is one of our, both of our favorite rap trios of all time. And I'm tasked with picking a dipset song. And if you, if you follow a dip set, it's not just Cameron, you know, Joel Santana, and who else did I say, Jim Jones, it's also Hellrell.

I knew that was going to be, I knew that was going to be your little, yes, like, I'm going to I'm going to throw Hellrell in there. Well, we got to. I don't want Hellrell to listen to this podcast and be like, yo, these dudes were not respectful of my contribution to diplomatic immunity. So I want you to go first. What did you come to the table with for layup line here on the locks side of the aisle? So I have, even though it's not a lock song, they're all on it.

And I think it's technically a May song, but 24 hours of live. Where would you go? And who would you want to notify? I feel like that's a legendary song. Not a lot of people think about, but Jada, Sheik and Stiles all have verses on that. And I just think the fact also, it's who's, I think it's, is it Jada on the hook? I think that's just like a member, like for me, being young. like hearing that, just like hearing that and like thinking in my head like,

yo, if I did have 24 hours to live, like, what would you do? And just being a kid and just being like, dang, that's like, that's a crazy content. Little Facts was sitting at home contemplating. So that's a great one. And, you know, I was thinking to myself, what would I have done? I might have done, can I live or recognize? But had we expanded it the way you did there, maybe I go blackout. Hey, yo, catch me with a 38 box of shells.

98 Lincoln eating pasta shells. Blackout off the DMX album. They have a lot of posse cuts, like records that that's why I'm really excited for this whole thing. Both sides do. Both sides do. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm going with for dips that I'm going with, I'm ready off a diplomatic community.

I think the heat makers produce that one. It's just an all-time mood lifter, dude. I just, and it reminds me at college. We were, we, this was, this was our music, man. This was our music. So, you know, yes, we're old, but they're still doing verses for old, old heads like us. And so Nate went on 24. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie.

I thought you were going to go with We Fly High. No, no, no, no. That got so played out, man. There was the, as far as playing that song out was concerned, there was no worse team to do it than the Giants because they got so many fucking sacks. So many. They, remember, they had to stop them from doing it. They literally put in a rule to stop them from doing that. Like, that's what's funny about that.

Dude, I'm so with you that, like, it's a memory that makes me smile, but it definitely the song got played out. Like, I wish those giants, D. Lyman had gotten that opportunity in an era when you could celebrate. Oh, my goodness. There's no thing that made me happier than watching one of my old teammates, Fred Robbins, shoot a fadeaway jump shot. Or O.C., just knowing Osi,

being in like a this being in a like a a meeting room with ocey and those guys just like knowing their personality just thinking like if we got to do dances and playing if they got to plan dances and stuff for a group that they knew they were getting sacks every game like how different that would have been like dynamic wise because it was by the bunches jpp like all those guys and and yeah and you were there so it's like and you've been on d lines obviously just like me where you knew you were going to get buckets. And, you know, we had the D-Line in St. Louis that we talk about a lot on here. And you're right. Like, there's games you go into and you're like, hey, guys, a lot of people are going to be. This is it. Maybe we should think about a celebration or two. You never want to jinx yourself. But some games, like when we played Seattle or something, they played maybe the Eagles. There was one time where OCU and Yora had six sacks against Eagles when we were in college. Crazy. Yeah. I feel like he, I feel like he did that and he had a bunch when they the year they wanted I just remember being in college like

yo like this dude's going off he had the best cross shop I've ever seen but he did it like he had his he had his thing like OC one thing about OC OC watched a lot of tape like he was a dude that like I consistently watched him watch tape and it's funny but OC used to have little nuances about like Olin and stuff like pertaining to the snap and it was funny to me, but like he wouldn't never let anyone know. It's kind of selfish. It's kind of selfish. But if he knew it, he wouldn't let anyone know.

And then like, like people like tuck. Like I remember tucking them like getting frustrated with him. And his thing was always like, no, like if like I'm not going to tell you guys. And then you guys jump off sides and then blame it on me. Like so like I'll just take it like. And I'll figure it out myself. And if it's right. Right.

Because we used to have, you know, Mike Waffle. His thing was never early, never late, which was basically a fancy way of saying be on time. Stay on sides, get off the rock. Which is hard to tell somebody in an attacking defense when you want them to, you know, accrue 60 sacks a year as a unit. So, you know, like we would kind of share tells with each other. But the code was always, if you get fucked on my tell, you don't say I told you. So like after a guy jumps off sides, you don't sit in the meeting room and we go,

Well, Chris told me that when the tackle, you know, wiggles his fingers that it's on the next, you know, sound. You know, like, or we'd have centers that would lean back, you know, especially when people used to be under center now a lot, quarterbacks move in their hands. Yeah, that's it. The little tap. A little gator motion, the tap.

Yeah, trust me. So there's a whole, there's a whole host. These same conversations were going on in y'all's D-Line room, in our D-Line room, and it's funny as hell to think about. But you're right. Sometimes if you get a real good tip, Some guys might wait till the third quarter and act like they figured it out in the second, but they knew it all week.

All week after you get your two sacks. Like, yeah, guys, it's this. Oh, guys, I just realized. So anyways, we got here talking about the locks, about dipset. We're going to settle that debate later. Who's got the best catalog? And that's a complicated conversation. So we'll get there after Pat Maroon.

One more thing on the arts. Nate, I don't know if you've seen anything pertaining to that. to Ted Lassow. About my jurisdiction. Okay. I feel like it's outside my jurisdiction as well because I watched a preview. And all I have to say,

and I really like Jason Sadecas, I've met him before, really great guy. And an amazing actor goes without saying, and you can all tell that I'm getting ready to shit on Jason Sadecas. I'm not shitting on Jason Sadecas. I just think it was miscast.

I just don't buy the Jason Siddakis is from the South thing. I just don't buy it. And I'm also not good with like kind of, you know, tame one-liner comedies. I like, I like dryer stuff. So I think I'm going to struggle with Ted Lassau, but I'm going to keep an open mind. It's up for an Emmy, I guess. And I'll check it out, I promise. Housekeeping, okay?

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Another thing this week, my son told me what he wants to be when he grows up. He actually told his papa, aka Flat Top. We don't do big challenges. Okay. Run on a bunch. It's basically most of it.

extreme elimination if you remember that show but for crossfitters you've seen american ninja warrior right nate yeah of course i have and i respect all that because sitting in your living room and you watch people fall and you say ah but just knowing in real life like how's like severely hurt you can get trying to do a lot of that stuff when you're like not training for it like i i respect it a lot and i respect whaling for setting his goals early and being definitive about it and then like like with people i don't know if you doubted him when he first said it or if you were just kind of like and that's what i said and then put like proving it like saying hey you know what dad you might not you might not think i'm serious but let's go to the park let's go to the park let's go to the park

No, I've been very supportive of it. I've been very, very supportive of it. He's really into the storylines. You know how American Ninja Warrior likes you to get to know the characters out there who are running around. You know, I do want to push back a little bit. They're falling into a pool. So, I mean, yeah, you could get hurt, but I'm thinking maybe like a torn labrum is more likely than like a concussion is all I'm saying. But these people are very impressive.

And some of them are fucking crazy. I mean, they're all crazy on a level. But I saw a guy in like a full plaid suit. and some high top fashion sneakers, like hanging on the adult monkey bars, like a psychopath the other night watching this thing with Waylon. Of course, he went out on like the first challenge. He went into the moat.

But these people are nuts. And I think Waylon's got a little bit of that in him. I really do. So Waylon's going to be an American Ninja Warrior. I fully support it. And as you can hear on the audio there, Flattop does too. So kudos to Waylon.

Big shout out to Waylon. To be honest, this was the second game in a row. You went out early in the first quarter. I'm just curious what was going on there. I want to do, what do you guys say politely? I want to take a tinkle. A tinkle? Yeah, yeah.

I want to take a tinkle. It came back. That's polite, right? Tinkle is polite, yeah. Both games. I want to take a tinkle to win back. Sports, NBA finals, rages on. Two, two now.

So we got ourselves a series as of our last night, your two nights ago. Really great game. This was the first really electrifying game that actually captured my attention. And maybe now people will tune in more because I'm going to be one of those people that was one of the many that you couldn't count in that nine million or so that was watching games one, two, and three. I was one of the people that was tuning out due to July, due to, you know, like post-holiday due to the fact there's smaller market teams, whatever. the fact that it looked like the bucks were going to get boat raised. Well, Chris Paul came back down to Earth. We know that's going to change because we let him a shrine.

Listen, I think the series could be exciting now. This is good stuff. And the game last night, which looked rigged for a bit after that no call, Yon has saved the NBA from a lot of heartache and hardship this morning by blocking a shot, well, a dunk rather, of a player that he wasn't even guarding at the time. He was helping on somebody at the top of the free throw line. The ball gets lobbed over his head. He somehow turns, pivots, times it up, and rejects Aiton at the rim.

And here's why I think this is such an impressive block. The difference between him being on an all-time poster and him making an all-time play was just that. It was that moment. And the athleticism, the awareness, the skill, I think adds up to put him in the conversation for making one of the most iconic blocks in NBA finals history and people online agree.

A lot of people are saying, people are saying, Nate, that this exceeds the heights of the LeBron James game seven block five years ago. Anything and everything to try to top LeBron, everyone is going to do. This block was great. It was cool,

but it's not better than LeBron running. full court and pinning like a sure layup like to the backboard like no it's not it's not better than that like yannis for one is a freak of nature his wingspan is ginormous if you watch him he takes about three strides from half court anyway like to make a layup like it's it was very very impressive but i do not think it's better than lebron right right because yonis is athleticism you kind of hold that against no yeah like like I think we do hold that against them and and that is it's still an amazing play like they're both amazing plays right right it's amazing to watch that I think it's more I think it's more to me like just a basketball fan it's more of an amazing play to like Janus's because he

forced he played both players it's like that two-on-one-one drill you're coming down the court and you have to you either force the shooter yeah for sure for sure for sure but he knows hey if I like do that and yeah Like he made an awesome play. And like you said, like, of course he might have been on a poster, but Janice is going to be on posters, and he's putting so many people on posters. And I just feel like it would have been, it would have been like a cool alley-U,

but I think it was a great block, but definitely not better. So the game was in the balance. I just want to, I'm playing devil's advocate here. No, yeah, I got you. I'm not going to tell you what I think yet, but for one, coming back to what you said, you said that Janice's athleticism should on some level be held against him. What makes the LeBron block, I guess, so impressive is that he's so unathletic, you know,

and he just, it was all a hustle, right? Like, there's no athleticism or skill when it comes to LeBron. I've seen the same argument for people online. Oh, Janus is 6.11. He runs like a 4 or 5 in his arms. Like, he can reach out and open the back door from the front door of my living room. I don't give a shit because LeBron is also one of the foremost freaks of nature in American sports history. So my thing is, I'm just saying from a skill standpoint, LeBron ran in a straight line.

Okay, J.R. Smith, and I love LeBron. So don't call me a LeBron hater and don't say I'm trying to down LeBron. I know some fan boys and fan girls online do that. Like, anytime anybody perceives a threat to the king, dude. Like, I love LeBron. I'm the first one that has been caping for him for years when people said he was, he wasn't clutch. he's a choke artist, so this, that, and the third. LeBron James needed J.R. Smith bad on that play.

J.R. Smith froze Steph and then altered the shot at the rim and gave LeBron time to catch up to him running in a straight line. And here's the thing. Janus has made that play in this playoffs alone. So I'm just saying that you at least have to consider that these blocks from a skill standpoint are relatively close. What I am going to say, though, is this. LeBron's block, game seven, crunch time. It's a bigger moment. There's more magnitude in the game. But there's also more magnitude because it's LeBron's legacy.

And LeBron at that juncture, at that crossroads in his NBA career, considering the shadow he's cast over the game, that's an enormous moment. Okay. So there's no way. I feel like it's in the moment now. But like, be honest. Be honest. Like in two years, I don't think you can remember this block.

Like I do not feel like I don't think that's going to be the fault of Janus. I think it's going to be the fault of what we've talked about when it comes to like, Hey, this finals is two smaller market teams. But that goes back to the main point that is it a better block. I feel like if we really thought that like then you would be like, yeah, like I will remember this block and maybe we will remember this block. But I don't think so. I think the fact that like you said, it was game seven, the magnitude of it. And for me, it's just that full court versus versus a free like from the free throw line.

Like it was the optics of it is like amazing and just anyone who plays sports like that was a difficult play. They're both difficult plays. But I don't think it's some I don't think it's better than LeBronbach like overall. Yeah. I mean I and I don't you know I know nowadays when you have a take on something basketball related that kind of swims in the first take pool. You have to get outraged when the other person thinks something differently. I can't find myself getting like animated at either side of this argument. I just think one personally, I think takes a little bit.

I was a little bit more impressed with the skill that it took for Janus to do that because of there was an awareness element. LeBron's obviously there's awareness and there's no doubt in my mind that he has more basketball IQ than Janice due to his experience, his wealth of knowledge, and the fact that he can play a ton of positions. I'm just saying that on this play, Janus had great basketball IQ, he had great feel, and then he made a really athletic play. And what's beautiful about this thing is you got one of those,

awesome, uh, Renaissance looking pictures. Renaissance painting looking pictures. I don't know if you saw that one. I think so. That my man Dragonfly Jones shared this morning, but it's like everybody's frozen in place. Janus's hand fully extended, Aitin coming down over top of it,

and everybody on the bench is just up. Because that, that was also crunch time. So kudos to Janus, though. Like talk about a heel turn. No, he did not learn how to like, how to cross somebody up. or how to Euro step somebody in a week. But what he has done is he showed toughness coming back from that knee.

And he's shown, you know, even though Middleton, you know, not shot the lights out, but he scored a lot. He showed that he's standing up in this moment. So I'm not going to lie. I'm going to keep it real with you. I think Janus, every time I think about him doing something good, I just think about how he's just so terrible at first. free throws.

And it like, it like lowers it for me because he's such a good player. But like to watch like a star go to the free throw line and just struggle so much, it's just like, ugh, ugh, like I don't know, it takes it away from me. And maybe that's what's on my mind more about it. That's just saying like he can't be the greatest like shooting airballs like somewhat consistently shooting air balls from a free throw line. I think that's crazy. I don't hold his offensive lack of skill against him making that play.

And, you know, like, yes, the fact that he made the play and he's the superstar definitely makes that play more interesting. But, you know, we've seen chase down blocks before as well. Just none is spectacular and as big a moment as LeBron's. And that's why it probably holds the crown. And I think the hot take would be that Janus took more skill. But I do think Janus's maybe took more skill. I think LeBron's greater.

If that makes sense to you, I just think, you know, it's a little bit of a different conversation. Here's the question. Okay, we saw Janice talking about having to tinkle. Yes, Janice, that is a polite but bizarre way of saying you have to take a leak in the United States. I would say hit the head. I would say take a leak, as I just alluded to. I don't know.

What am I missing? Take a tinkle is a very benign, but very awkward way to say. You got to take a leak, especially for a guy is seven feet tall. It's probably got to bend down as he goes in the powder room. Yeah, I don't know what his deal is. Like, is he just, like, drinking too much during, like, layup line? You think he's just hydrating crazy, just, like, chugging water to the point that the game starting and nerves is just like, like, he did it twice. Like, that's so weird.

I feel like that's so weird. Well, I feel like it's something else. I feel like, as the mayor of hydration summer, I feel like this is stolen valor. I feel like, are they, like, following him when he, like, leaves the core? Is he going right off the court? maybe he's going to throw up. Like I know, like, people, if you drink too much, like maybe, like, the first running up and down,

like I've definitely done that at football games where I feel like I've drank too much during pregame and then your first series, you could just feel like the water in your stomach. And you're just like, I think he could be getting something. He could be taking a shot or something of that nature. He could be doing, like, anything right now. You know, like, he can also be taking a deuce,

which people don't talk about. So, like, if you got to take a deuce as a pro athlete, you just don't talk about it. The only person that ever actually, not that quake, not that quake. The only person that actually ever, like, it was speculated on the highest level that a do was taking a deuce was actually relatively recently. It was that barn burner of a game between Cleveland and Baltimore. And Lamar had the dokey trot off the field, you know, and came back and he said he was cramping, right?

So, you know, that's about it, though. But, like, even if you go to take a deuce, you probably don't. don't share with the road. Honestly, I think it's what you said. Like, it's probably a situation where the medical staff, they probably tell him, go out there and check it out. And if you don't feel right, like, come back and get this tort off shot or come get this shot and you'll go back in.

I feel like that sounds more and it kind of like it doesn't really alarm fans and people who really don't know, like, too much about, like, the sports world and, like, what what type of like medical stuff might be going on. But just like you said, like in the last segment, he did take a nasty spill. Like he took a nasty spill and it didn't look like he was going to be back playing at the level that he is. So maybe there's something for maintenance for his knee. But the tinkle thing, I'm not sure.

I'm not sure about that. So we'll ask you the listener, how do you tell somebody at a dinner party that you got to take a piss? You know, I say hit the head. You're going to say, what to use the bathroom? Yeah, I use the bathroom, but if there's something less explicit, what's your little benign slang word? Because it's definitely not tinkle. Tinkle, as I said, like, it's a bizarre one to hear.

And we have a mailbag alert here. There's a rogue mailbag. This is from Craig Pintens. And Craig is the athletic director at Loyola Marymount University. So I feel very accomplished now. I really do. and I'm not being facetious. When I saw that, I was like, holy shit.

Sometimes when I'm reminded that powerful or successful people subject themselves to this, I feel better about myself than I did before I learned it. So thank you, Craig, for listening. And his question was, have Macon and I ever been in tough situations where you really had to pee, you were well hydrated, and you couldn't get out of that situation? He said something to that effect. But sorry, Craig, Dr. Fax is in the chair. and I'm going to turn it over to him.

Fax, you got any anecdotes? I've been on a few road trips driving, maybe going to Chicago and going through like Indiana and some of those Midwest like places. I wouldn't want to stop, so I've definitely like, like hit the Gator A bottle in the car like before.

But I'm trying to think. I've never really had anything. Why would you want to stop in Indiana? Just some of the places don't look stop friendly And I'm gonna and I'm gonna drive through the night guys So like If I'm like even pulling up to a place And I'm like this place like looks sketchy

Unless I really need gas It better have like the credit card thing Because like I'm not going inside Like I'll wait for a gas station or whatever Unless it's dire dire But I'm just like I don't like sketchy stuff like that I'll give you one. I got to pee right now. Like, I'm going to hold this thing all the way through the Pat Maroon interview. I got another one when I was a kid. He used to ride a carpool up to Camden Yards once a summer with a buddy and his dad redacted. I told him I had to pee around Walmart outside Charlottesville. There's a three-hour drive. He wasn't happy with that. Well, news flash redacted. Kids have small bladders. So I peed, got back in the car. Lo and behold, an hour and a half later, what do I have to do?

I got to pee again. So I let redacted know and redacted. Instead of pulling over for me, just keeps driving the car and ignores me for a solid 90 minutes. That was the worst I've ever had to pee in my life was as a 14-year-old kid on the way to Camden Yards in 1999. I also wonder this. How about presidents when they have to give some long-ass speech?

You know their prostates are fucking huge, dude. Okay? They got a pee with regularity. What are they doing up there? They got a piss bag? I have no idea, bro. According to some medical professionals, airline pilots have the largest bladders and can hold their pee the longest.

I love how they talk about airline pilots like they're animals. Like they're just like they're members of the animal kingdom. That's funny. I do wonder if my pilots on the way to Maui if they got up to go to the bathroom or not. That's bullshit, though, because I see those pilots come out of that thing all the time. I see them coming out of that thing all the time. I'll be in line for the bathroom, and they'll cut me in line to take a leak.

And I'm like, hey, whatever you do, just keep the plane in the air. But I don't want to hear how big your bladders are. I really don't. Also, man, graduation speech. I gave the graduation speech at UVA a few years ago. God bless him for selecting me, yours truly. But I had to pee like something fierce, dude. this is like you talk for 20 minutes in front of like thousands of thousands of young people.

That was probably number two. I don't really have a number. Well, I don't know if viewers know this or not, but like football players like piss on themselves a lot. Like your favorite football player probably at one point like during a game or practice like somewhat probably piss on themselves a little bit. I can just tell you that. Is that true? Yeah, I believe so. I can count on one hand the teammates that I've seen pissed themselves willingly on the

field. Really? So that's not a large percentage now. Not in my locker, not in the locker rooms I was in. I feel like at UVA we had a few guys or they were what you call it a lot too. Like they would build that the janky little curtain on the sideline and you take a knee and you piss like near the medical box if you had to go to the bathroom really bad. Oh yeah. It's trippy to pee on the sideline on a knee and like have a gatorade towel in front of you and be staring into the eyes of like 40,000 people behind the bench. And they're like, I wonder what's going on with him. He's getting stretched and you're just trying to relax and take a piss.

Dudes with stage fright, you're not going to want to play in the NFL. Let's get to read roulette, okay, Cowboy? Concerning news regarding Richard Sherman, he was booked at 608 on Wednesday morning at the Seattle Correctional Facility for burglary domestic violence. This is a developing story. The 911 call was very quickly released. and ridiculed and there were some unconfirmed circumstances were surrounding the arrest itself.

But today, John Lynch announced that he will provide support and resources to Richard Sherman and his wife. More will come from this story, but what are both your thoughts as of this afternoon? Well, number one, I'm thinking about Richard Sherman. I'm thinking about his family. I mean, like, when I first read that headline, I thought to myself, oh, no, like, am I going to have to lose, like, somebody I consider

a buddy or, you know, like an acquaintance that I really respect because I don't really, if you put your hands on a woman, you know, my view of you changes. And, you know, like, that's also a lesson, like, read what each charge entails. Because I think for a solid few hours there, we were thinking we had like your run-of-the-mill domestic violence situation. And I'm not saying what happened wasn't probably really jarring and it's scary and it's probably tough for people to hear, especially Richard Sherman fans. So, like, one, I'm relieved it wasn't the first thing. Two, that doesn't make it any less scary.

I'm thinking about Richard and I hope he gets well. You know, like he's a good guy. He's got something going on. And you never know exactly what somebody's going through. So I don't want to speculate. But at the same time, what I especially don't want to see speculated is any of this bullshit that some people feel like is the low-hanging fruit. Hey, anytime a player is going through something, it's got to be head trauma or CT or football

did this to somebody. I think that's disrespectful. I think it's tone deaf. And I think it also discounts many of the things that regular people go through every day that when an NFL player deals with something like depression or anxiety or alcoholism or addiction of any type, you know, that doesn't mean that it happened because of the game we played. Those things are very real. But I just, I want to say that.

I hate when I see that. And I think some prominent radio media members had speculated that it was something like CT that was causing this behavior. I hope Richard gets well. I just know that in other sports, when guys do erratic, we don't say anything to the effect of head trauma. So I want to respect Richard, respect his family's privacy, just know that I'm wishing him well. And you never know what's going on with the guy.

Even if you're his teammate, you just don't always know, dude. Absolutely. And my whole thing that I don't like when these situations happen and it's athletes or sports figures or just anyone that's kind of in the media or in the spotlight, Like, it's, this situation just happened and the, the 911 call is already circulating. And to me, I just don't, it doesn't do any justice to the situation. And it's just one of those things for me.

I don't know the numbers, but a 911, I would think a 911 dispatch gets these calls very, very frequent. And obviously, it's a, it's more of any, I don't know if it's excitement or like the want for clickbait or, whatever it is when you hear it's a NFL or NBA or MLB or NHL or or someone like like a sports figure but it's like they don't they don't let these they don't release these calls like like when it just happens to regular people and for it to come out and then to hear the call and the way it went it's just it's messy and um I wish the best for Richard Sherman his family hopefully everything can um get worked out and hopefully they all get that help that they need and um it's just a it's just a sad situation if there's any collateral positive

that happened here i will say this um you know his wife seemed to handle that like incredibly well as well as she could and you know i think it also it also in a way like for some people that weren't sure if he was like engaged in a physical altercation with his wife probably drove the point home that it was nothing of the sort. So like I'm really bummed about this not one one call being out. And I and I hope that, uh, that Richard and his, his folks, as we've said, plenty of times here, get the help that they need and, and that we see them back on a football field. Because in my experience, Richard Sherman is a good man. And, uh, you know, he's just, he's just dealing with a rough spot. And a lot of people have over the last year. I feel like,

I feel like COVID, the change in, in social, uh, situations, the whole thing. And, you know, he's just, he's just dealing with a whole thing, you know, probably being away from football, that can be tough. So, wishing the best. So some old football players got some stats from pro football reference. They've updated their pre-1982 sack totals, so players like Deacon Jones, Jack Youngblood, Alan Page, Carl Eller, Joe Green, and others will have their career sack numbers more accurately noted. The NFL is officially counted player sacks since 1982. And with these updates, Deacon Jones is now third all time in sacks, beyond Bruce Smith and Reggie White,

Jack Youngblood, now sixth, behind Kevin Green. That means between 1961 and 1992, the Rams employed at least one legendary Hall of Fame pass rusher, switching between Jones Youngblood and then Green, all of whom would now be top six in all-time sacks. Are we excited for these older players to be recognized?

I'm not excited because all those fucking great rushers for St. Louis move you down the all-time list. And like the worst thing about playing for St. Louis is like you're all-time, like if you're like eighth on the all-time team, like maybe you're like three or two on other teams. It fucking, that part sucks. But it is cool to see somebody like Deacon Jones who since passed away who used to come to our practices and like talk to us, you know, get recognized so people could kind of put into context what his body of work means. I mean, like sports reference.com, adding sacks from 60 to 81. It's an interesting conversation.

Like, how do we, how do we, you know, kind of put these guys into perspective? And some guys over the weekend, some guys' totals went up. Gasno, you remember New York Sack Exchange, Mark Gassano, who had some, like, legendary runs. Of course, he was taking steroids, I believe. But he's over 100 now after a bump of 33. And I don't mean that disrespectfully. I just mean that's part of the legacy. I don't think it negates your whole thing.

But, you know, if you were on the juice, you were on the juice. Some technically never recorded a sack, but now like a guy like Al Baker has 23 sacks in one season in 1967. That was his rookie year. Can you imagine going on the scene with 23 sacks in 1967? So what were they recording those asses like TFLs or just tackles? I guess they were recording them as tackles or TFLs. but now these people went back and watched a fuck ton of tape

and actually compiled these unofficial stats a little bit more of an official way. Like they're not official NFL stats now, but you know, that list of a top 100 rushers is now much different. So do you think these guys were like lobbying behind the scenes or someone had to be, right? Or maybe like families or something.

Like I feel like you would probably want to lobby if they like if your dad like had sex and like they weren't recording stuff. My dad, I believe, had like five or six sacks that weren't recorded. he ended his career with like 83. And if I had surpassed him and stuck around a couple more years, I ended with 70, I was going to totally act like those didn't count. Totally act like those didn't count.

But yeah, I mean, like Deacon Jones, 173 sacks. Jack Youngblood now has 151. Alan Page now has more sacks than any defensive tackle all time. And on top of that, he's still alive to see it. He's 75. He was an associate justice of the Minnesota Supreme. Supreme Court. Like, what a legend. So some of these guys recognize it's just so fucking cool, man. And I was joking earlier about not liking it. It's really cool to see these guys

sandwich now in between dudes like, you know, Bruce Smith or Kevin Green and now you see a new face. It's like unlocking a character in Madden that for years I've stared at this list. And now these old, like, legendary names are on there. So it's very, very, very, very cool. What number are you now in St. Louis history? Oh, I don't know. It probably goes Kevin Green one. Kevin Carter's ahead of me. Leonard Little's ahead of me. And I don't know if Robert Quinn surpassed me as a RAM. But I think I was in the top.

Well, Merlin Olson's now in there. Like, you know, just... What's your top 10? Yeah, I'm like top 5 or 7. I don't know. Seven? Seven, Reed, you can look that up. Chris, you were 6th with a 54 and 1 14th career games.

Number one is Leonard Little, 87 and 1. 147 career games. Aaron Donald is second 110 career games with 86 and a 85 and a half career sacks. Yeah, well, like a half a second game. Yeah, me, half sack will get you paid. Yeah. Especially if you can play the run a little bit. But yeah, I mean, like, those are the names I had to contend with, man.

And now there's more. I mean, the Rams have like the best D-line of all time. I mean, like when you add up the numbers, you'd be hard pressed to find a better group. but I'm excluding myself. I feel like the guy that's not supposed to be there, even in the top 10, but like these fuckers are legends, and I'm really glad they're now on the list.

Reggie Bush has partnered with Believe Entertainment Group to produce a documentary that will tell his side of the USC college football scandal during his time at the university. Interesting to see how this documentary plays out with Reggie producing as well as the impact of the recent NIL laws. Are there any other athletes you'd like to see produce a documentary about their sports lives? I'll give you a curveball. How about a Cohen Brothers biopic on Mike Leach?

I don't know who it's played by. Maybe the guy in Michael Clayton who kind of lost his shit. And is he still around? I hope he's still around. And I think that thing gets dark at the end when he moves to Starkville and joins the Maga cult. But like I think a Mike Leach biopic would be terrific. other names that came up, Vince Young, that came up in the studio here, Warren Sapp and the Rock, Sue, Texas Tech with Harold Crabtree and Leach again came up in Alabama and Saban.

The one that, the two that really bet my ear here is Johnny Mansell, to me, we talked about him with NIL and how much money you can make off the field. He'd probably make as much as anybody, dude. he'd probably make as much as anybody in the history of college football and i feel like that would be a really wide open doc if he was producing yeah i also have to consider like a tim tibo documentary produced by tim tibo that was mine that was my big one i'm obsessed with tim tibo what is it about tim tippo just everything like the whole thing like i don't the whole it's one thing like he was homeschooled and then he becomes like the biggest

college athlete, I think, in my lifetime, like, hands down to, like, to me. And he's supposedly, like, this super, like, godly or church person. Like, he's a virgin. And, like, all this stuff was, like, circulating while we're in college. The virgin in Gainesville, dude. Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, I would want to hear the, like, the ends and out, talk to maybe a few girlfriends at the time, like, to hear if it's, like, BS or not, because just like you said. I know, he's, no, he's, I think he's genuinely, Tim. See, you say that, but how do you know? Like, how do we really know?

How do we know anything? There might be a girl out there is like, hey, like, Tim Tebow, like, rocked me in college. Like, he's, he's, okay. It's a family podcast. Oh, but I'm just saying, like, I, I feel like maybe that might be out there. But also, too, like, he had, like, he was buddy, somewhat buddy, buddy, buddy with Aaron Hernandez. Like, there's a lot of different angles to that that's like, wow, like, Tim Tebow was a part of all this. like all this going on.

Now you've got my ear. I just don't want him producing him because I think it would come out like a lifetime movie. But like I think if you had one with the 08 Gators, Tebow, Hernandez, Percy Harvin,

the whole night and Percy Harvin was just knocking people out left and right. We went to that game. We went to one of the games. Me and you. Oh, we did. You're right down there. Yeah, we did.

Yeah, down in Miami. And that gave me chills. Like seeing Tebow, like, do the Gator chop and like stadium pole. happening like that was crazy that was a crazy night that was a crazy night and and on top of all that

jenoris jenkins was there and here's all i would ask pouncy brothers that genoris jenkins narrates the thing jenores jenks narrates the whole thing we do one on the o-8 gators and we're going to make a fuck ton of money actually what you're saying that jenores would be a very very interesting like bio pit like for a college player he went through a lot he went through the muck he grew up in the muck He grew up in the muck. They catch rabbits. Catch rabbits. That's one of my favorite, favorite documentaries.

Is there a documentary about the muck? Yeah, you have to see it. Oh, my God. So the rabbits, the reason why they catch the rabbits at the end of sugar cane season, they burn the field so they get all the way level. And when they burn them, it forces the rabbits out. And so, like, the team that they were on, that's how they determine how you got to pick what position you were on the team.

So the quarterback is usually the fastest kid, because he caught the most rabbits because that's that that's a position you always want to play like think about that crazy documentary i think they did a 30 for 30 or something about it but it's it's unbelievable the big kids are just when they just light the field on fire just pull up a lawn chair man like i'm saving my energy i'm not catching rabbits dude i know i'm a guard i'm a guard all right so we covered a lot of ground there uh let's get to three-time champ pat maroon Patty Maroon. So, Nate, this is my guy here.

You guys just met offline. But, you know, Patty Maroon, who is shitting gold the past thousand days or so of his life. It has a big, a great deal to do with the success of the last three championship teams in Stanley Cup. He's joining us now from Tampa, Pat. Are you still in Tampa? Oh, I just got back last night. I flew back to St. Louis. So I'm back in the Lou.

Hang in. And looking 17, bro. You shave that beard. Man, that's a, hey, shave logic all day. Listen, the funniest thing is, like, I had saw, you know, I didn't want to bombard you after the thing, so I text you, but then I saw the post of you on the float, or on the boat in this case.

And I saw that look in your eyes. Oh, yeah. I leaned in on that picture and screenshot it and said it to you. It didn't have to say anything with it. You knew what I was saying. would you tell me? What did I say? What I said?

He was being drunk for five days. Lack of sleep. Lack asleep. It's crazy. I mean, yeah, I mean, we were going hard.

Our owner's kid was getting married, so we couldn't have the parade that weekend. So, like, the boys were just burning down the city all weekend until the parade came Monday. Like,

when the parade came Monday, came like we were all hammered by noon like all of us as you can see during the parade we're all running the rain just fun I don't know what we were doing but it was fun I mean the fans deserved that more than anything you know dude you guys are like the new boss and I was saying earlier it's like Tampa is the city of champions and I feel like I feel like well one observation and by the way for people listening the first interview I ever did my life was Patrick Maroon this was about three years ago now. Yeah.

In the middle of the St. Louis Blues Stanley Cup run, and I thought it was cool because we knew each other from back in St. Louis and knew of each other mostly, but like run into each other a few times. And so I was like really excited for the hometown guy making a run. And lo and behold, three championships later, you've seen land parade in St. Louis and now you've seen two by sea. So what's better at land or sea? You know, someone asked me that the other day and I'm like, you know, it's just something

much easier to go to the fans, but I mean, a boat pray does look cool when you're going down and there's like other, I just shocked how the boat drivers maneuver and that. I mean, it's pretty fucking impressive, man. And, but I think the boat's cool. I really do. But I think land, I think, just because you're so close to them. But like, you know, I, I walk down market tree. I was even in my float. I think we were kind of the first team saying, Louis, the first team to ever get out of their floats and like going in the stands and like party with them, throwing beers, hugging people, stealing the cops, bikes and riding the bikes. And it was just, but I think that's, that's fun because you're so close to them.

You know what I mean? Boats cool because you get to see, you know, the people surrounded by you, the wall, you know, the other boats partying, you know, what other guys are doing to the left of you, what other guys are doing to the right of you, like guys taking the stand. Stanley Cup on jet skis. I mean, fuck, we had divers on staff because that thing was ready to go down, you know?

Yeah, it's like GTA, dude. Like, people are in all types of vehicles. Didn't someone dent it? Didn't someone drop it? Didn't they get dented? You're talking to him, bro. He dropped it? Yeah, man, it was a complete, complete accident. Obviously, we were drinking all day.

The cupkeeper was behind me, and I went to go lift it and where we were in like the family like where all the families were there was like puddles of water and it was so slippery and my feet just went underneath me and I said I wanted to go pick it up I'm going back with it

and I was like oh no I might lose this thing and I was like trying so hard to like not and the cup just literally took me to the left of me and I'm like oh fuck this isn't good wait how so how heavy is it it's 30 I think 35

pounds. Oh, wow. 34 and a half pound. That's pretty heavy. When you're drunk, that's 70 approximately. Oh, yeah.

That's pretty heavy. Yeah, they were cool. I mean, they seemed way worse. That's for sure. And it was they knew it was a complete accident. The only thing I felt really bad for is the guys because it was supposed to go out that night.

And I kind of, I didn't mess it up, but my feet and my drunkness, this, I mean, it was so, I was so top heavy. Like the thing's heavy.

So like, like you said, it feels like 70. But fuck, it was really a complete action. You know, people were saying, we disrespected it. Man, like, shit happens. You know, like, I'm sure the Lombardi trophy's been fucked up before. You know what I mean? Like, well, the good thing about the thing that's so different and this is what's cool about you all's thing is like you get from what I understand it's the same trophy every year.

And, you know, they etch it in. And then like you spend a day, which everybody knows and sounds really. cool. Like, like, I got my two trophies, but you got to get them made. So, like, the risk is not there. And it's much more easy to handle a Lombardi trophy. That thing's like super light. And, um, and really, like, when I held it for the first time, I was like, this is not this is it, but like, oh, I could, like, get fancy with this thing. Like, moving that Stanley Cup looks like moving a refrigerator or something. It's like not only heavy, but it's awkward. Yeah, it's heavy for sure. It's heavy. What did they say?

So you say they've seen worse? Oh, yeah, way worse. Talk to me about it. I mean, fuck. Like, it's anything. I mean, I know I apologize to them. They called me the next day. I don't know if I'm supposed to say this, but like, Patty, things happen.

Like, don't worry about what happened. He's like, I said, I'm just more worried about people saying it's disrespect to it. Our team, because no one knew really who did it or what happened. And they're like, Pat, you literally, you fell. Like you really slipped anybody. Like you weren't like you weren't like doing something acrobatic with it. You weren't doing it. It could happen to anybody.

It could have happened to you. It was in the middle of the freaking families and I just literally slipped up. My back's been killing me ever since. That was my next question. Did it fall on top of you? It seems like that. No, it didn't because it like it fell to the side like that. And I was trying to hold the whole thing up like and I was still on my hands.

And but what are you going to do? Like slow motion feeling, like slow motion feeling like you know when you're fucking up ice or like on the field like when we used to fuck up on the field it happens so slow. So slow. So methodical. Just like and you're like looking around making sure no one sees what just happened. But I don't know the cup was dent until we lifted it back up and I saw it. I was like, oh shit.

This would happen to me. This would happen to me. Well, listen, statistically speaking, you've wanted enough that like it could have happened to anybody. Enough people win it three times, either bound to drop it or I just think like it's amazing that you told me you had to wait five days for the parade. Like there's no say uncle and y'all hockey guys. Like dude, like the football players, we would have gone so hard for three days. And it's not that y'all go any less hard, but we would have said like after day three, like fuck it, let's take a day off. I feel like maybe I'm wrong. And on top of that, I think it's the toughest parade in pro sports

because you guys just get done with like this grueling marathon of a playoff. And then you got to get drunk immediately. In fact, game five, tell me, did you crack a beer under that table? Which table? Press table afterwards. As you hear it. I heard the beer. Yeah. Yeah. Which table? I had two in my hand. The one was behind, the one was behind my name. and then I poured it and I finished it real quick and then I went behind the thing and I cracked one. But yeah, we get after.

We didn't leave the rig that night until like, I don't know, five in the morning. Four in the morning. What's Pat Maroons hangover cure? Is there any besides hair of the dog? Just get back on the hair of the dog. Just get back on the piss right away. You got to hit it hard, you got to hit it back harder.

What did you think when the Tampa Bay mayor said that she wanted you to lose game four so that you could win at home game five? That was like, it was just like, why do you say that in that moment? So when we went up to the mayor and I actually hugged her, I was like, why did you say that? Like, just don't. She goes, if that would have backfired on game five, too, I really would have been nervous. But she had a speech ready, but it rained. it rained on the

the cup parade so like we're like ready for it so because I think she was getting she was getting mean threats by the Tampa fans like why would you say that but it worked out I mean it was a one nothing game was very stressful but it worked out

last year you're in year three of this run you just wrap it up how hard was it like I guess this is a general conversation Nate and I have you know playing the NFL and knowing like the way coaches handle things. I've been on one team that tried to repeat because when I was in New England, then I moved on to Philly so we couldn't repeat.

Or I couldn't repeat there. Coaches, I felt like made too big a deal about like the fact the elephant in the room, like this is hard. Not a lot of people do it. And I feel like it almost becomes like a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you say enough that like, guys don't have that slump, don't slack off, don't get complacent. Then guys are distracted. and they're in fact not thinking about what they need to do.

You having one three in a row, if you're the coach or you're managing a team, what is your message to a team? Like what's the key to defending? Yeah, I think our message will start with their jam in the summer. I'll give you short stories like I'm, because we're going to try to get everyone back. I think we can run it back.

And I think the message when we had our meetings too is like we can run this thing back. I think we have all the tools in the room to run this thing back. And the message in the room by Kube, which is he's such a good talker. And he knows when they respondent at the right time. He knows just say the right things at the right time. I think it was just say, hey, listen, like, remember that feeling that we had when we won. You know, we didn't have our cup parties. We didn't have, you know, the families in the room.

We didn't have the fans in the stands when we won the cup. Like just imagine that feeling we had after we won in Evanton in the room just the guys. imagine that times 10 with fans around, you know, families around. Like they could witness you guys to see you achieve something so special, but to be part of history too. Like this is something a lot of teams, a lot of teams don't do in such a short period of time. Like we won two Stanley Cups and under a year. I mean, that's not heard of.

Yeah. So like his message was just like, like go back to that feeling you guys had, then go back to the feeling that we, you know, with you in the locker room and, you know, working with the guy beside you and, you know, go out there and do it because, you know, Pittsburgh did it a couple of years ago,

but, you know, it's hard to do. I mean, teams did it in the 80s when there's, you know, like the dynasty is like Long Island, you know, Edmonton and then Montreal, back in the day, Toronto in the 60s, but like, you're talking about, 2000s. No other team besides Pittsburgh. You can be in a category of, you know, history. And I think that was a message. And he always had the right things to say. And it was pretty

remarkable, man. Like, you know, we played 56 games this year, but we played every other single day. Plus the playoffs, we played every other single day. I mean, that's, that's pretty hard to do. And the guys grinded so fucking hard, man. I was so impressed with the way we won this in the last year just because guys were playing hurt. You know, McDonough was, you know, should have been up for the con smith. But, you know, he's playing with a broken hand. Cooch is playing with a broken rib. His hips hurting.

Like, you know, guys were hurt. And it was our star players that were hurt and just grinding through it. And I feel like I still feel. And I know you guys will probably maybe just hear it. I feel like hockey players are the toughest when it goes through like mental stage of like playing hurt. You know, Alex, go. and blocks a shot in the first, first game.

He's skating on his foot, you know, game three trying to play. So it was just like, it was pretty cool to see that adversity that would hit our team and how we respond to it. And just the messages that we got across to the guys from Coop and, you know, the leadership in our group. Yeah, despite my best efforts to troll hockey fans, if any of them are actually listening, I do think, I do think hockey have the toughest guys because it's a totally different. I was talking to Bissinette about this. it's like a totally different toughness. It's like y'all are okay with your teeth getting knocked out and shit like that.

That little puck would scare football players a lot. Like Nate, Nate, boy. Like, same with me. We're like, we got the big collisions and that sort of thing. And y'all do too. And y'all are, in fact, skating faster when you hit each other. Ours are more frequent. But I would say the crown goes to hockey.

And I guess I would ask, like, what does that feel like to play every other day? Like physically when you show up to the ring, I don't know if he was like bag skating y'all or like whatever you all call it morning skate and that sort of thing. Practice is like different. Like if we lose, we get bag skated. Like, you know, you try to get to the guys. I'll bury you. You know, he'll send a message.

Morning skates, morning skates. It's just a pregame skate. It might take 12 minutes. It's just to skate around, like do a couple drills. It's just a more field of puck. But, you know, going to the rink every day, you know, sometimes you can't even get out of bed. You're back for so much. but you're like, all right, listen, I get paid too good not to, you know, be there with the boys.

And, like, you know, obviously you'll take days off. You'll take a maintenance day. Most of the, you know, top end guys will take maintenance days. But it's just a grind, man. Like, but I think the most important thing for me is the locker room feel when you first walk, like you might say, fuck this. I hate fucking, you know, practice is going to suck today. But once you step foot in the locker, I think having the boys smile and loud,

and you know, sweating and banging out together. I mean, that's, I'm sure you miss that too. You know, that's the best part about all sports. You get to freaking, you know, spend the most time. That's your family. Like, that's more of my family than, you know, going home when you're playing. So, you know, waking up someday sucks, but I think most importantly is going to the rank every day,

knowing you get to fucking joke around with the boys, you know, stories from last night for the young guys, you know. You try to read, try to just, you know, just live through them, you know, and just kind of banging out of them, man. It's, it's a blast. But, you know, there's always some pains and stuff that goes with it. You know, we bitch a lot, you know, we're human. We're supposed to bitch.

You know what I mean? Yeah, that's part of being a pro athlete. I feel like it's their bitch in a locker room. Like, bitch about the coaches, bitch about the injuries, bitch about like the practice length. Like, that's part of the balancing act. If I got to go do this, I get to complain about it too. For sure, 100%.

And like, sometimes you got to give it back to the coaches too. And like, you know what I mean? It's just part of our how we, how we, you know, operate. I think people don't realize, you know, we're allowed to. I know we may make millions of dollars, but listen, like we're allowed to bitch too. Just like you bitch at us on Twitter all the time. We're allowed to have a bad game and, you know, tell the fucking coach, you know, whatever. But that's just, that's just the way it goes.

Is it weird to like when you, when you guys finish this run, Like, I remember when I left New England, the last time I saw that building, like, was the day after the parade. Like, I was in there blackout getting my stuff. And then I left. Obviously, I got right home. But, like, then I didn't see. There's people I haven't spoken to in person since that day. And, like, I wonder, you know, aren't you guys going to lose maybe one guy to the expansion team?

Yeah. There's definitely free agents every year. Is it a weird feeling? Do you guys need a break? Do you miss each other after two weeks? weeks because you have been together for like the better part of two years now. Yeah, it's weird. I, you know, we have a group message and we just, you know, guys messes, hey, I'm leaving,

love you guys. We'll always be chants forever. You know, it just sucks because you don't go back and see everyone to say goodbye. You don't go to everyone's house. So like, you might not see that guy again unless we play him again and like hug him after the game making sure it's doing all right. But yeah, it's weird. Like you said, that's kind of weird.

haven't been back to Glouc Stadium. I mean, that's bizarre. Like, I can't, like, I guess that happened to me in St. Louis. I guess I literally got up and I signed Tampa. And it's just weird that, like, you go to the rink and you're not, you know what you mean? So, I don't know. I never, I think the text messages are great because we have a Stanley Cup, St. Louis group chat that we keep, everyone keeps up with.

Oh, hell yeah. we have a Tampa Tampa one from last year we all bullshit with each other and now we have the COVID Cup

we name it the COVID Cup this year so what was it last year so I mean we all group messages that we can all keep up and you know just send some random shit

from goofy shit to keep up on and like if someone does something stupid during the game they'll post you know what you mean so I mean that's the way we can keep up

I mean thank God for iPhones but bad for iPhones and social media too at this time. You're damn right. You talk about the COVID year. That was grueling for everybody. I know, like, just like so crazy from what guys were saying.

But on top of it, you get to the big stage and you're in Edmonton. Like, no offense to Edmonton, but was it not like the debt of winter in Edmonton? And like, how fast did y'all want to get out of there when you want to? Oh, fuck. I feel like all teleported back to Tampa, bro. It was like, oh, fuck, you're already back. So I played in Edmonton for two years. So I told the boys when you got there, I said, it's going to get cold.

But it was nice. It was still September. And it wasn't freezing just yet. But yeah, man, I mean, we had it really good in Toronto bubble. The Evanton bubble was bad. It really was. I mean, I'm not chirping Evanton because we didn't see. I mean, we just literally have a, we had a courtyard of a concrete slab.

And that was it with the Tim Horrible. Morton's truck. And that was it. I mean, that's all you saw in one restaurant downstairs. And, you know, I'm not chirping the hotel. I mean, or the NHL. I mean, that's, I'm so happy they got this done, right? And they, but I felt bad for the guys that were in Edmonton the whole time, like Dallas was. Like in Toronto, we had a pool. You know, we had the MLS stadium we can go to and play football, play spikeball. Like, if you, if they had the Ascomo Stadium, but you had to take a, bus and drive there. Like we didn't have to, we literally walked everywhere. So it was nice. We had great time. And the Evanton bubbles a struggle. Thank God.

I mean, once you got past the, once you got to the conference finals, you're like, all right, let's just bang this out. We have two more series to go for, you know, you know, eight more wins. Like, let's do this, you know, suck it up for now. How grueling is like playing in the fourth longest game in NHL history? Y'all played, was it the- against Columbus. Yeah.

It was nuts. It was nuts. Guys were getting IVs in between intermission. It was like, at that point, you're just like, get me home. Like, come on, someone please score. Like, this is, guy, you're going to see it. Guys couldn't even move. It was like a slow-paced hockey game by that point.

Like, I think guys played over an hour. Some guys played over an hour of ice time. So, like, it was crazy. I mean, it was just nuts, like to be a part of history like that, you know? And how good does it, does it feel like, you know, your Bennington was electric, like, at multiple junctures in that run, dude, like, he was just insane. And you guys got a goalie now. Vasilevsky?

Vasilevsky. I say that name, so I don't fuck it up. Vaseloski. You guys have nicknames for everybody. What do you call him? Yeah. Big cat. Okay.

Good. Tell me about that cat. Because he likes cats and he's big. We call him big cat. Oh, cecine desist, pardon my take. I wonder what makes those guys tick. Is there something that goalies have in common to be able to do that? Like, besides just they're crazy. And then what makes this dude special?

I think for me that makes him special is just how athletic he is. Like, he's ripped. Like, he competes hard. He competes hard in practice. he works at his craft on and off the ice. He's a very competitive goalie. And the thing that's mind-blowing to me, you know, he makes a save and there's a rebound. You think he's down and out, like there's no chance in how he's getting it.

He's so acrobatic that he comes across and he just makes a save. He makes like the second and third save that a lot of goalies can't save. You know what I mean? He's long. He's lanky. He's flexible. Like, it's pretty remarkable to see him. Like, he's ultimate the best goalie.

And I think he might go down as one of the best goalies in NHL history. I know you get to Patrick Waws, the Marty Berners, but like you're in this generation, guys are faster, guys shoot the puck harder, guys are more skilled, you know, guys are more in shape. You know what he mean? Like, powerful and just the way he competes and goes down. I mean, Mark Andre Fleury is probably going to go down history books too. he's one of the best

goalies to ever play the game too, but I think we'll never see another generation boy like this. I mean, he is just a stud. Wow. I mean, it's just so fun to watch. You think, you know, the cool thing about him,

Bassey is like we'd win one nothing, we'd give up, you know, 18 shots, but good game Vasi goes, I was bored. He wants like 60 shots a night against him. Like he wants like, like he wants to be active

because he feels like he's not on his game if there's like not a lot of So it's where's he from? Russia. Mother Russia. Okay. So what? Mother Russia.

So I asked Biss in that this, what's different about the Russian guys other than the accent? Like, are they just like the stereotypes of the dudes that just, you know, can just face vodka and they like ride four wheelers out in the freezing cold and, you know, they're doing light cars on fire and shit. Are they just crazy? I've been fortunate to play with some good Russians, like some like cool, like good, like, you know, we've got some.

some good Russians that like, you know, like to get after and party it up. Obviously, you can see Kooch, Kooch is funnier in hell. And, but like, yeah, man, they like to drink vodka. All, you know, like that's just their thing. They like to go, so like these, the three Russian Sergachev, Vasi, and Kooch, they go find Russian restaurants every, everywhere we go. So like, so finally this year, but no, before COVID hit, the year, the first year we won the cup he took uh some of the boys i were like like why don't you ever

invite us like why is it always just you three so like they took us to this whole russian routine we were drinking vodka after vodka after vodka i was like it's just what you guys do all they're like no but like this is we're giving you like the russian dinner treatment like this is what we do you just get blackout at dinner it's awesome night before game it's great Do European guys get to take that thing to Europe? Like you get to take the cup home to St. Louis is easy. I know you had a killer party a couple years back. But like, do they get to take that thing overseas, European cats?

Yeah, they have to. Yeah, they get to, yeah, absolutely. I know last year they couldn't, but this year, I think with COVID, I think with everyone being vaccinated or whatnot, I think you can take it over now. And the guys with the white gloves fly it over? Yeah, they fly it over. Wow.

Pretty crazy. That is crazy. I want to ask you about the hardest thing about this last two-year run. You played a lot of playoff games. I know it's been grueling, but probably the hardest thing for you maybe is that you haven't been able to fight in the playoffs. Is that something? Yeah, you can't really fight in the playoffs. No.

I know you want to fight. But I'm like, you're now you're Mr. Playoffs. So how hard is it? What's the dance like where you're like, are usually I would fight this guy in the regular season? Are you a big prearranged the fight guy? I think we talked about this a few years ago, fresh people.

I think the playoffs fighting kind of goes out of the picture, only because just you need all four lines to win a championship and, like, you need to be effective. And, you know, people are going to, you know, once it starts people running around, then you have to like, hey, like, slow it down. But, like, you might see that. Like, I fought Matt Martin, this playoffs.

you know, we need a jump start. They beat us the first game and they kind of ran around. And I kind of asked him a fight. But I think, you know, after that, I just kind of want to play hockey. You know what I mean? Like regular season, you know, you get the guys that ask you or you ask Sam.

It's kind of, it is what it is for me. But I think during the playoffs, you kind of just need everyone and you don't want to do something, you know, out of the ordinary, take a stupid penalty, like, go jump someone because he's running around. Because if you do that, then it could cost you to the series or whatnot.

So you've got to be careful. Pick your spots, pick your energy spots, you know, when you're going to do it, if you're going to do it. So it's a lot harder in the playoffs, I feel like. Does it, do you get like green lighted by, you know, coaches for that? Yeah, I'll look behind the bench. NBA, KC, Koop, you need me to pass this guy to fight. He's a perfect time.

He's like, oh, like, no, yes. So he gives me the green light. And I kind of know when to go, one not to go. when the momentum shifting, one we need it or one we don't need it too. So if someone asks me, I'm like, no, I'm not fighting. It's not the time, you know. So then I might get the same answer by someone else. And they're like, hey, we're going.

We're like, no, we're not fighting. So, and then if you're asking those guys in the playoffs, you kind of just, you're like, no, I'm not, this is not the time. So because they're trying to change momentum. Not now. No, not right now. I don't want to get my ass kick just yet. Yeah. Well, Jake Paul said that he could beat up Paul Bissonet. You really think that? I don't think you think that necessarily.

Listen, what he's doing is remarkable Jake Paul. I think what he's doing, he's marking himself. Like, you can't really knock the kid for what he's been doing, being a shithead. But I think if you put a hockey player in a boxing ring, I mean, he's got a train. I think Bissanette's got trained. I think, but we box in the summer, but I box in the summer, but I'm not like, a boxer. I think I need to train my shoulders, like, how to stay up, like, because if you drop them, you're going to get pop, right? So, and the thing is with us, we hold jerseys, too. So we're basically, you know, we're holding jerseys. We're doing all that. So, I don't know, I think I can, I can see Paul if he, if he gets in shape and stuff and, like, gets his shoulders in shape. And, like, I think he can take him down. There we go. Yeah. Dude, I just feel like right now these fights are like they're i think he's telling these guys hey if i knock you and i'll give you more money like i don't think so i think people really want to knock this kid out and they

no i think floyd was playing a game with him i think floyd was definitely playing a game with him and i get a mixed up was floyd fighting jake or logan i really don't know logan okay not jake everyone's like isn't logan like six four like yeah logan's a little bigger how how big is Mayweather. I mean, I mean, that's not even like a, I feel like, yeah, Mayweather tools, like he fooled, like, he can sit in a ring with someone all day and people are, he's going to, he like he says all the time, you can't, you can't, if, you know, one hits him. You can't, you can have a hundred punches one round, but they, they didn't hit them. I mean, I don't know. Who's, who's the last UFC guy, you guys would want to have to fight?

I mean, the St. Louis boys fighting Tyrone Woodley. He's a beast. I used to train with him a little bit. He's an absolute dog. After seeing Greg Hardy get dropped, whatever dude, he fought. I don't want to fight that guy because he dropped him hard, bro. Oh, my. He did. He knocked him out.

That means that cat can do all the core in the world. It's not going to make him any better. He's just a cement fist motherfucker, dude. No, it's just like, and I love that, that his body shape. isn't really the body type and he doesn't have abs or like writ definition but like that that's not what fighting is.

Like I think ultimate fighting might be the most inclusive sport in the world. If you think about it like that, it definitely is. You know, you can be whatever height. I mean, I used to watch those guys in the geese back in the day when UFC was like people wearing karate outfits and you'd have like one 400 pound guy

trying to fend off like these head kicks from this little guy like yeah, yeah, UFC is an inclusive sport. Pat, one more question, and I'm going to let you go, man. Thanks for the time. Three-year run. What is the contribution you're most proud of? It could be like in the locker room, or it could be a play, a moment. I'm definitely curious about the latter, though. Is there a moment that sticks out? I know the goal might be at the top of your head. Honestly, I think this is the leadership I took on the last three years and like how I've merged into a, you know, a locker room guy that kind of helps

to kind of, you know, molds the players to play the right way and kind of, you know, for example, Cooch, you know, he didn't really speak up, you know, language barriers, big, big problem in NHL. I'm like, you got to make those guys feel like they can say what they need to say during intermission during the game and make them feel comfortable. And I think I've, I've taken that next step of like understanding like those guys are so important to us. And if they're not speaking, because they're our leaders and there's some of our best players, we're going to have problems. And I think, I think that's, you know, obviously being a part of history of the last two years, I think, you know, I haven't had the playoff numbers. I really wanted the last three years. But I mean,

that I think, you know, people don't see the other side of like what I do and, you know, how I can help a team. I know I'm pumping my own tires, but I think people need to understand. You need guys like that that anyone can come up to and talk to if they're struggling. You know, if a rookie gets called up, you make them feel welcome. You know, you grab their phone. You put your number in there and say, hey, man, call me if you need me. If you have a bad game or anything, I think that's the most important thing. That's the most thing I'm very proud of the last few years of just how I've held myself.

And, you know, I've been a good locker room guy and team guy for everyone. So, you know, I just try to be like, God, you know, when someone needs me, leans on me, I'm there for them. Dude, well, count me in a group of people that's incredibly happy for you, man. Like, this is just- Thanks. I appreciate it. Hey, I just had to pass you, you know? You have-you-knocken asshole.

You know what it was? It was like, it was like we did the interview, and then the energy went through the microphone to you, and then you took the torch and just shit on me with three. I had to- Oh, yeah. So, congrats, bro. tell the family hi and live it up and get some sleep, man. I have to say one last thing. Who I want to be in a ring with is remember Kimbo slice?

Because I'd be a heavyweight in the UFC. That guy would eat me for lunch. Yeah, you know who it would be for me? Because I'm just like maybe I'm a prisoner of the moment, but Francis Inganu. I just, I shook his hand at the SB's, bro. And I really understood when I shook his hand

because that hand is a little heavier than mine. And I got a big ass mitt now. So yeah, Francis and Ghanu. It's crazy. I mean, those guys are freaks, man. I mean, the one punch it just goes to show you like,

I mean, look at Connor's leg when he got hit. Like, oh, dude. I ain't trying to do, I ain't trying to do all that. You got, like, those leg kicks alone would knock you out. Can you imagine,

do you ever, like, just hit your shin on, like, the bottom of your bed or something? How bad that hurts? Imagine it, like, just snapping. You're laying on the ground, loving it, like, trying to get the pain out. I'm just, you know, and like, I think shock takes over, but I'm pretty impressed with people being able to just sit there,

like, my leg's broken. I've seen dudes on the field. No, he did a whole interview. Yeah, I know he did an interview, but you've seen dudes on the field, too, that, like, have a camera. And they just look over to the sideline. They're like, my legs broken. Like, I've heard a guy like, we see that, dude.

I can see it. Like, it's trying to push out of your skin suit, man. like just so anyway yeah it's crazy man like that's a good thought to end on yeah well I was watching that USC the one guy I was really watching him

I don't know it was a couple weeks ago and he was trying to play on he hit the you know the nerve in the back of your leg and it goes numb that just like drop foot he was still trying to play and then he was getting choked out and he's like no my leg it was just like it was just and then

it's just gnarly those guys are just like You have a different mentality, man. Even from your eye, bro. I just, no, thank you. Not for a living. No, thank you. No. In a while.

Patrick Maroon, three-time champ, bro. The best. Thank you, ma'am. Thanks, guys, for having me. I appreciate it. It really means a lot to me to come on the show. Hope your boys are staying well. Hope you're like retirement.

Loving it. You'll join me eventually after you went another like five or six. and we got to get drunk this off season. You got to come to the cup party. When is it? Where is it? It might be in September now, so we're trying to sort that out. I'm fucking there, dude.

I'm there. Just call me. You got to come. You got to drink out of it because you can't drink out of the Lombardi Trophy. You got to drink out of the Stanley Cup. I would love it. I would love it. All right, bro.

That was lit. Yeah, he's the man. He's such a good dude. That's so funny. I really, I had no idea he was the one that dropped. That's the moment, bro. That is the moment right there. Did they?

I know you weren't after to. No, did they, is there a video of him falling? Like, or no, like, like, like, they just came out that it got dented. Someone took a picture and published it, but there's no video. I wonder what that looks like for those guys, the white hand, like the white, um, glove people. Like, what, what that, like, they were saying that all that encouraging stuff to him, but like, behind closed doors, like, this motherfucker. Like, do they have?

have to call, do they have to call like a welder or like, what are they doing? Like, no, it's silversmiths. Like, silversmiths. Like, silversmiths were freaking out about Tom Brady throwing the trophy, the Lombardi trophy. And I'm sure there's some silver smith that was mad at Tom Brady that's even more mad at Pat Maroon. And a silver is a blacksmith for silver, I'm guessing, or no. Yeah, it's like, it's like a blacksmith for silver. That's a really, like, I was just guessing. But, yeah, like, I could just imagine, like, him saying that, like, listening to him, I was like, yo, those guys were probably like this fucking asshole. But like just like because they probably have insurance for that stuff, obviously.

But it's just like having to tap into that. And like it's something that doesn't happen all the time. And how quick do you have to get that fixed? And how quick like can you just find someone on a drop of a dime? Like, yo, come fix the Stanley Cup. Awesome to hear from Pat. And it was even better to hear you like learn something. Because I didn't tell you anything about Pat other than that's my.

buddy and he just won his third title. So like, you're not a big hockey guy. I thought that was really cool. Let's talk about the Olympics real quick. Before we get dipset and locks and we get the hell out of here. The Olympics, we were tasked with picking our five can-dos and five can't-dos. Now, I couldn't name 30 of these Olympic, you know, events, let alone 10 of them, but there's at least 30 on this list. And one thing today, for the first time in my life, I realized that it's not a Bob Slet. It's a Bob's Bob Slade. Bob Sled is what I've said. Yeah, well, they say Bob Slay on the site.

What state are you looking at? I was the Olympic site, bro. I'm just saying maybe Cool Runnings needs to rethink that whole thing because whole generation of kids are saying Bob Sleb. Yeah, Bob Sleigh. Yeah, yeah. You feel stupid now, don't you listen at home? You're like, you're looking, you're squinting your eyes, you're Googling.

You're wrong, dude. I was wrong. You're wrong. Cool running's lied. I just want to say this. I don't know if anybody's played Kansas. jam at home but can jam needs to be an Olympic sport you know what can jam is name yeah I agree because this is something I've been doing in the backyard for years with me and the boys Ben

Kenny Anthony Mike I mean we've played can jam where you got to hold a beer and that's the rule I don't know about you read how you play it but Nate it's the frisbee game where you got to throw in the slot you know it's like a trash bucket with slot in it and you throw the yellow frisbee and try to get it in the slot. If it hits the thing you get a certain amount of points, if it goes in the slot, the game's over. Sounds like Frisbee golf. It's not Frisbee golf, bro. It's even whiter. Yeah, very, yeah. I didn't want to, I don't want to be the one to say that, but when you start to say that, you're definitely allowed to say that, bro. That definitely sounds very, very white. I think that's a pretty benign. Almost as well as that new game, I see everyone playing

at the beach with a little trampoline and you're like spiking the ball. Spike ball. Spike ball. Mike ball, dude. I can't get into it. I don't understand. The rules of can jam are, you put the two trash cans that have slots in them far apart. Like, so a slot kind of like a mail slot. Yeah, it's a mail slot in a black plastic trash can. Yeah.

Some can jams are actually white because they're glowing the dark. I have a glow in the dark set. And so you try to hit the bucket altogether. If you hit the bucket without somebody tapping it, you get, what do you get three points if you hit the bucket without somebody tapping it, I believe? You get two points if the person hits it in the top read. I think a bunch of people played a bunch of different ways. But you get a certain amount of points if I throw it and you're my teammate and you slap it into the bucket.

We get a certain amount of points if I throw it and I just hit the bucket and you win the game by throwing it into the mail slot. You can also win by getting two 21 points or however many points. This is set up like what's the beanbag game? Cornhole. Yeah, like, kind of like, like one of my, one teammates over here, one teammates over here. Exactly. Okay, okay.

Here's a hill I'm willing to die on. Cornhole is inferior to Can Jam. And should be an Olympic sport. Can Jam, that is. No, Cornhole's on ESPN, bro. Oh, not going to do. There's a lot of stuff on ESPN now, dude. There's going to be people shooting bows and arrows at targets.

Then here's the thing. Why don't you start an annual corn like a championship and then lose a championship? And then you'd be upset. You'll be upset because, like, there's probably people out there that's way better than you. Yeah, it's called my other three friends, especially when I start drinking. All right, so Olympics, what are your five can-do sports that you think you could do with enough training? And guys, we're being funny here.

Like, we don't really think this, or maybe we do on a few of these. You speak with yourself. So my top one is skateboarding. What? What? Is skateboarding Olympic sport? Yeah,

why are you mad? Let me, could I take my list? Yeah, go. Karate is number two. Okay. Curling is number three.

Skeleton is number four. And I put figure skating for number five just because they'd never seen a big body on the ice. So you're all niche. when it comes to figure skating. Like, it's just, it's a,

you have a point of difference here. Yep. I think whatever partner I had, like I'll be able to toss her up higher, better stunts, like, crazier stuff. With training, you know, with training. Man, listen, I did not know that.

And you want to know, you want to know what's funny. I know you didn't know. Discontinued. You want to know what used to be a sport? What? Tug of war. Imagine doing tug of war.

against different countries. That'll be lit. Oh, that'd be tight. That'd be really tight. And polo was discontinued also. But not water polo. Just regular polo. Well, let me tell you, here's my list here, okay?

And I didn't even know, I'm still not sure that a couple of the sports that you just named her on. Did research? Look it up, bro. It's all good. You don't have to know everything. I'm still, no, I don't. I definitely don't.

But I'm just saying, I don't want anybody to be like, Chris also thought that skateboarding was Olympic sport because I don't know. You don't have to die of my. hill. I'll die on my hill by myself. Okay, good. Okay, good, good, good. Equestrian, okay? Horse does the work. The horse is Michael Jordan, all right? Scotty Pippen, way more important than the person riding the horse. That, of course, has been the source of some inner conflict ever since I googled it because after I googled like toughest Olympic sports, it says horseback riding is one of the most intense sports known to man. And it's like number one. So respect. I made this list,

Before I Googled, I thought the horse did the work. Beach volleyball. Here's how I know I could be good at beach volleyball. Number one, I'm tall. Number two, sand is good on your joints. Number three, I love the hats. I would rock the hat. And number four, and the most important part is,

whenever you see a movie and they're playing beach volleyball and they play on beach volleyball in like every movie ever in the 80s, all of these unathletic actors didn't even need like body doubles. They just went out there and looked supernatural. spiking the fuck out of the ball. If they can do it, like if people like Tom Cruise can do it, I can do it. Water polo.

I was going to put water polo on the list, but then I found out you can't touch the bottom of the pool. I was just about to say, are you a good swimmer? I'm a very good swimmer. Okay. Yeah, and I'm tall. So, like, maybe I could be like one of those tall guys, you know, out there in the pool, throwing the ball around.

Canoe, everybody knows I could crush the canoe or kayaking sports. everybody knows that. I've got a full day of training on the Rivan under my belt. And then lastly, trampoline just because I've done plenty of it. Like floor dance trampoline? I just see that there's a trampoline. And I think that's like floor dance,

like Simone Biles. Like I don't think you can do that. No, I don't think it's like dancing. I think it's like jumping up in the air and spinning around a lot. Oh. Yeah, I've already, I've got a cool trick where I jump really high in the air, land on my back.

and then without landing on my feet, I land on my stomach, and then I land back on my feet. So I figure... Can you imagine, like, someone like... Speaking in the Olympics. But like just doing that, like for a YouTube video,

just be like, forget this. I'm not going to win gold and just going and just doing that instead. I would give so much to see somebody. I was thinking about this with American Ninja Warrior. If you just finesse them into getting you on there and you told them you were training every day, And I just took some steroids or something.

I got jacked and they thought it was cross. The joke's going to be on you and that. You go hurt yourself, yo. No, I wouldn't. I just, the first second I do the most outrageous belly flop into the pool. No, it'd be better like the same thing. Like, what if someone belly flops for diving? I was going to put that diving.

But I feel like I would get scared. Like that, that high dive is very, very high. Oh, dude, you can break your back up there. No, you can break a lot of stuff. I'm sure. You can you can you can embarrass your family in your country. What can't we do? Any type of triathlon can do it even though I don't know if this is still, you know, when they do the skiing, the Nordic, the skiing with the shooting, that always looked cool.

I used to play that on the Sega, like Olympics game. And that was cool. And you can't do that? No, like they're just like they're on skis and they're pushing themselves like for miles. You've never skied, got it. Yeah. I don't think I can do the diving. And I don't think I can do Povovote either.

That's when you jump over to, like that's when the povo is when you jump over the thing, right? Yeah, there's no chance. There's no chance. That's part of what's known as athletics. Do you think you could do it? Things in athletics. My five, no-fly zone, Olympic sailing. Okay, like don't sleep on Olympic sailing.

If you actually watch it, it's not like one of the commercials, with the watches. Like, it's not like a luxury watch commercial. It's life and death out there. Like that water looks cold. It looks like rough. It looks like there's sharks. Yeah.

No thank you. Table tennis, never been good at it. Not even in like a really like acceptable around the house way. Like your friends come over or you go to your friend's house and there's a ping pong table. I'm the guy who's like, no thanks. I'm good because I can't even hit the ball back.

But those people just, they rifle at each other. Weightlifting, I can't lift weight lifting. I can't lift weights anymore. And then modern pentathlon. I'm just going to give respect to these guys because you got to do five things, five. What is that? Running, shooting, jumping, show jumping.

So you got to get on a horse, swimming, and then fencing. This is like the rich guys who get a lot of ass triathlon. Like these guys get so much ass. Think about it. You can do all those things. and to boot, you can get on a horse and put one of those fucking hats on

and like a red suit with gold buttons and jump over like steeples and shit. Like these guys, they're the guys who get the luxury watch commercials. Always got something to talk about at the bar. Yeah, they always do. Like all the different skills that they have. And lastly,

field hockey. I could not play field hockey. Not that it's a men sport, not that it's a men sport, but I used to always be amazed that all the girls, were like hunched over for the entire game. Yeah, that's just such a weird, like, position you have to be in.

All right, let's round this thing up. I can't wait for the Olympics, guys. I got it on my calendar, okay? Dipset versus locks. This is the, this is what we've all been waiting for. Nate Collins, who's a big fan of both. I know I am. Who's got, who's winning this versus to you before?

Because I feel like you kind of know who wins a versus before. it happens. You've already decided. Sometimes you get surprised, but I think that I think that the locks win. I'm going with the locks. I agree. I agree. I think if you look at the two best projects,

like my favorite locks project is we are the streets, which they really both have two like group projects, right? We are the streets. And then is it money, power, respect was the first one. And you've got diplomatic immunity. and then you've got diplomatic immunity too. I think the consistency is way more there with the locks.

And their best project, We Are the Streets, is better to me than diplomatic community. It's a little more precise to me. So you're naming all the groups, the group albums, and I wonder how they're going to... I wonder how they're going to do it. Yeah, like, can you pull out, like, you know, can you pull out... I made a playlist for y'all that are listening. Can you pull out like, like, why or something? You know, like, oh, Jada did why?

Like, so I would think no, because that's like a solo thing, but I think it's, I think it's fair to say any track that has all of them on there. But if they do that, that's what's going to be weird about, like, what you said, like, we incorporating Hellrell and people like that because they have possible. cuts on stuff, but it's going to be interesting to see because just how you say that, they bring out why, like if Jadikis did like a big time song like that, but Jadikas already had a had a verses and he did like his singles, but Cameron could do the same thing on the other side.

No, exactly. And the way I would compare the two is like Cam, I think had the longest good album run. Yeah, for sure. Cam, the captain of dipset and Jadikis is the captain. a locks. Like that's how I see it in a sense. Yes. Yes. Yes. Even though I think Santana's stuff is really good. For sure. Santana had, Santana had one album that I thought was real good. I forget the name of it. But I just feel like, and listen, I had a dipset t-shirt, okay, as painful as that is to have been. I had a dip set t-shirt. Marketing through the roof.

Like, like Dipset, they definitely, they, Cameron, he did marketing for them. Like, like unreal because the the dipset that eagle emblem is is like etched in in like hip hop history for yeah it is it sure is and like i feel like that that diplomatic community stuff is age well but i will say this the the delta between like the big the the space between um we are the streets and money power respect is much less than the the space between one and two on the diplomatic community side diplomatic community too i do not enjoy that much no okay and if you're going like again we talked about i just pulled it up confessions of fire s d'e come home with me and purple haze like that's an incredible run jada i think had the best album of any of them like data had the best album of any of

them kissed the game goodbye like that that was through like through the roof that like changed it for jada Jada was like that kind of like showed he can he can really rap he can have mainstream stuff radio play like that's when like that's i mean jadecus is from westchester from 9-14 and just growing up and hearing like on the radio just hearing these guys that are like hey they're from like a few towns over like this is crazy but then getting to college and really like like realizing like hey like people all over like no know this stuff like it's not like local shit that you can only buy tapes like locally like for sure and and also like when you think about sampling which is something that if you grew up in our era and like love new york rap in that time period

like sampling is really cool i talked to somebody about this last week it's like i learned so much old music from new music so i know some people look at sampling is like the shortcut but i thought they did a great job. And the production on these guys stuff was really good. And like Swiss beats doing all the lock stuff. That's what it is. That's what is. It's more about the production on the sampling.

Like some people take the shortcut and they're not really, they're not creative with the sampling. So it's just like a lot of people and musicians, they don't really like it because it's just like, hey, like we heard this already. But like you're saying, like when someone could take a sample and really like do something special with it, Like, so you don't automatically know, like, hey, like, this is from this old song.

And then you can find it out later. It really makes you appreciate it a lot more. And, you know, so we both picked the locks. Jada, you know how much I used to listen to Jada kiss. And then one day I wake up. And I don't know if you ever saw this clip of me and Malcolm Jenkins, where he was on the sideline. And we were getting ready to go out for the coin tosser he was because he was a captain that week or every week. And we'd stand next to each other during the end.

anthem obviously. And I used to fuck with people when they were miced up and ask them if they got that rash cleared up. And so I asked Malk if you got the rash cleared up and he was like fumbling over it and fumbling over like, what do you mean? What do you mean? Ah, ha ha.

So that thing went viral and it ended up on some like fucking hip hop site and I got tagged in. I went to tag. I went to look at the tag and on the bottom and said, Jay to kiss liked it. So I was like maybe I can't even it. That's the ad lib you don't want to try. I can't even do it. But if Jada Kiss comes on the show

one day, we'll both try it. So this is our public invitation. What up Jada from the 9-14? Fuck with us. Yeah, dude, from one of the goats. We got to get you on. We're siding with you on the verses. So basically, Dr. Fax will be back. Appreciate you filling in. Appreciate you having in. Yeah, dude. A lot of fun. catching up and and Nate will be in studio more often. We're trying to carve out a role for for Nate in Studio J. Now that the Pandy is over and we're back in business. Because I don't know if Makin and I would be able to talk about the locks and

diff set. I'm sure making those all about the Benjamin's. I'm sure he knows that song. Maybe he's learning. Layup line every day. All right, y'all take care and we will catch you on Tuesday. day.