Green Light with Chris Long - Pat McAfee On NFL Kicking Woes. NFL Week 5 Review.

Episode Date: October 11, 2021

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Terms and conditions apply must be 21 or older and present in state where win bet is available. Gambling problem, call 1-800-2707117. Pat, do you take any offense to my saying that I don't see much overlap in Blue Ridge Mountain, Shenandoah River in the state of West Virginia? Yeah, the song's about John Denver wrote the song about Virginia. No, yeah, and I saw this going around on the internet. You guys are just fucking idiots. You're crazy.

I got Pat McAfee today. Big star. Big star, dude. I've said the set's cheeks a lot. The sets looking great. Love all the bobbleheads, you know, everything going on behind around. You weren't trusting the process. Yeah, it's great.

But, you know, trust the process. Not a Philly thing, but, you know. I'd hate for anything to happen in here. Like a fire? Yeah, fire'd be awful. You know, flood. Brentwood, Tennessee. Hello!

Yeah, Brentwood, Tennessee. That's right outside Nashville. It might be. Hometown of Dawson Knox. Oh, yeah. Three for 117, two touchdowns. Do the math. You throw him the ball.

You gain approximately 40, 38 yards or so. Yeah. You know? Every time. Brentwood, Tennessee. Shout out to Tom Sannie. Old Miss fame, Dawson Knox. 24 years old.

Where else could he go to school with a name like Dawson Knox? Well, I don't know. Tennessee. Maybe. My layup line today. Yep. Under Pressure by David Bowie. This is a song I know.

Yeah, it's about kickers. It sounds like, what is it, ice ice baby? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shug Knight owns that, that Ice Ice Baby record. Shug Night does? I believe so. Shug Night comes looking for your record. You give them your record.

Yeah, dude. Hey, if Shug Knight came looking for your real estate license, anything. You got it, my friend. Hey, right? What are you saying? Yeah. Hey, Shug. You're now doing business as Macon Gunter.

Hey, Shug, hey Shug. Like Shug shows up to your door at 2am. Are you even calling Brad? No, Shug, it's yours, my friend. Take it. There's an electric leaf blower in the garage. But yeah, kickers are under pressure, man. They're under pressure.

We'll talk about that. We already talked about Pat McAfee's coming on. So, hey, about that football game we just watch. We just watch the class of the AFC. Okay. And listen, like truth be told, we watched half or like a little over half of this game because we were in here plugging away. The delay really, really screwed podcasters too. We watched them in the four o'clock hour and we watched them in the eight o'clock hour. And I'm not including Kansas City in this conversation because right now like at two and three, the way they've played, they're just not in the top couple teams at this point.

You know, so we got to get that out of our heads. Like they could make a run like they made in the playoffs a couple years ago. The defense could shore up. They could, a number two could emerge for Patrick Mahomes. But right now I don't see it. And I think the bills, the Browns, the chargers, maybe I'm forgetting somebody. They're kind of the ones racing to the top spot for me. Yeah.

Right now, Kansas City, the way their defense is looking, straight Swiss cheese, it's not going to work for that. Havardi. The bills. they maybe cracked another code for beating Mahomes with flooding him with D-Lyman. Well, that's the whole thing, facts. You showed me the snap counts, you know, and I don't mean like on one on two on three. I mean like, hey, how many snaps that ever I get up front? Rotation is the name of the game in the NFL now up front.

That was different. I was just thinking about this day because somebody, they were saying some team played 90 plays on defense. I can remember, and this sounds like a like walking to school in the, the snow story make, but like I can remember 83 plays in Jacksonville. I'm talking about me, 83 plays in Jacksonville. Mike Waffle when he got to St. Louis was like, hey, this is how we're doing it. William Hay is going to take a bunch of snaps. You're going to take a bunch. Rob's going to take a bunch of, like that's how this D-line is built in Buffalo. And we talk about this all the time. This year we have. Kansas City has not addressed their weaknesses as well as Buffalo has

addressed their weaknesses. And I think people have forgotten about Buffalo a little bit. And I think people have forgotten about Buffalo a little bit because they were planning these really jacked up spots and the only thing we saw was week one everybody bet the bills and got burnt and hey they're no good anymore no they're pretty damn good and they have a bunch of rushers and

if you want to affect Patrick Mahomes you throw fresh ones at them and you rush smart four turnovers for the Chiefs to zero for the bills 436 yards all right for the bills on 54 plays yeah 392 for the Chiefs on 79

And this is the thing, dude. This is what people are starting to make the chiefs do. Earn everything. So a play that you're not going to like, you didn't, you guys didn't get to see, and you'll probably see later, a controversial call on Frank Clark with about maybe five to six minutes to go in the game. And it was a very, very questionable roughing the passer call. they say it was low. They say it was low,

and it was really right in his midsection, and it was really a bad call, egregious call. Okay. And it really... Let's see it. Who knows if it would turn the game, but it's just one of those things

that took away opportunity for Kansas City for sure. Ooh, but do you see the way he lowers and launches? No. Exactly. That's a really bad call. Exactly, bro. Exactly.

I mean, you know, well, but I hate the rule, but maybe where they get him is when he dumps him. Yep. Yep. Yep. He put his shoulder into him. Now, I would too. Fuck, man, I got called for a bunch of these once they changed the rule.

Interception on that play, though. Wow. I believe, right? Yeah. Interception on that play. Oh, wow. So that was a huge, a huge, huge, could have been a momentum switch for them. Yeah.

But it was taken away. and I think the refs need to do a better job. No, he's up at his belly button, and he does even pull off with the left side of his body. I don't like the call. You don't like the call? I don't like the rule, but I think by the letter of the law,

maybe they're arguing that he drove his body into him, but fuck it. Yeah, but fuck it indeed, Chris. Indeed, indeed. And by the way, it's really rough for the away team with the delay, especially in Ken's City. If we were in the new Levi Stadium or something, and we had like a lightning delay or earthquake delay, or something.

We'd be in this sprawling space with different rooms. You can go get lost. You can have your own row of shitters. Like literally, there's multiple washrooms. But when you're in Kansas City, dude, the stadium is old. And as much I love old, charming places in the NFL,

like I hate the sticks gone. I hate that all these older spots are gone. The Arrowhead is, it's a tight place. The bowels of Arrowhead are tight. And the stools are small. And the carpet.

They'd have to be. And the carpet is red. Really, the carpet's red, dude. It's like off-putting, dude. It's like just an aesthetically off-putting environment. And the locker room is the size of this place right here. And you've got 53 guys, you know, crowded into this room. You're all in your shoulder pads.

It's humid. There's a fucking storm outside. Like, it is not ideal. So for the bills to come back out and to perform at the very least competently. That was pretty impressive to me. So let me ask you this. Because this is becoming a theme,

do you think that coaches should start implementing some type of 20 to 30 minute delay in practices unannounced, maybe once or twice a season and let you go get on your phone, whatever like that, and then come back out and right into team? If a coach told me to go inside for 20 minutes, I'm not coming back out.

Therefore, worst playing ride for me, your Super Bowl favorite at plus 550 win back. Kyle's on the team. Fuck, dude. The Buffalo Bills. I picked the Eagles to damn near win the East. Yeah. Buffalo Bills. Yeah, you win the football game by 18, but you're getting home two hours later than you

you thought. Nobody likes a delayed flight. It's for the support staff. They're counting on being home by now. Yep. And you're going to be pulling into Buffalo probably. I bet you dudes just going to be light. out, especially as far north as they are.

It's going to be light out when they get home. All right, fellas. What's the temperature in Buffalo, New York right now? 48 degrees. 48 degrees. Who knows if they even get to leave tonight, if that thunder and lightning isn't far out? Here's the thing. I'm just telling you this. What's the temperature facts? 48 degrees. Buffalo, New York.

Right now, right now, as we speak. 103 a.m. Eastern time. 41. 66. Gosh, balmy. Right? That's what Michael's would say. I think a lot of people think the sooner you get back, the better. I used to implore, like, coaches if they ask, like, how should we do this? Like, they ask, like, the older guys, should we stay or, like, whatever?

If you have a cool coach, they'll at least talk to you. Any chance we got, we'd be like, hey, can we stay over? Not because we wanted a party or anything, because you get such good fucking sleep in that hotel. And, like, I think we did it, like, once or twice where you play a game in very rare circumstances, the team not come back. It really messes up your sleep. This is a real thing. if I go to bed after a game at 7 a.m.

And then I have to be up at like 1 p.m. to get in there and go on and watch film and my body shot. Totally messes your sleep cycle up. I'll be awake staring at the ceiling Tuesday at 3 a.m. And I'll have to be in the building at, you know, 9 a.m. for a lift. And then it just compounds all week. You don't recover after these like long trips going west to east especially. So I would bet whoever's playing the bills next week. there you go best thing about

CFL you got to stay the night after the games oh dude that had to be awesome but you weren't kidding you were getting on a commercial flight bill's at Titans you're on Spirit Airlines back from Saskatchewan to Calgary but that would be

Bill's Titans Bill's at Titans Titans who Titans revenge game from like what feels like two years ago when they got jumped on the Monday night reschedule so yeah interesting outcome again like we saw bits and pieces because we had to do some stuff in here.

I'm going to grind that tape a little bit this week and see if it's as ugly as it sounded throughout. But big win for the bills, no matter what. And definitely like a statement for them because it felt like last year when they played them in Arrowhead in January that they were a million miles from being able to beat these guys. And they just did handily.

All right, let's talk about the, we'll start with the 1 p.ms. Skip around a little bit, but start with the early ones. For the win. from the left hatch two minutes remaining overtime crosbie's kick this time is good from goat to hero all right making just broke broke my bobblehead oh my god my fucking left hand just fell off i've got this bobblehead from 2008

okay well there's a problem here your wrist and your your suit sleeve i feel 10 out of 10 bad about this yeah he broke my bobble head i'm not i'm not gonna hang it over your head like you would me. No, but this is your one and only NFL draft bobblehead. I'm sure there's another one floating around somewhere. It's not exactly the best day of my life. The eight years that ensued were really up and down.

Dude, there are only 503 others. Oh my God, read what it says on the bottom there. What's the word? The word that starts with F on the bottom of the bobblehead there. Forever collectibles. Forever collectibles. I guess not. My co-host just broke my bobblehead.

I'm genuinely sorry. If I break my wrist, you're fired from this podcast. Well, at least it's like a left wrist. You're right. So you're right. You're right. You're right.

But I'm really sorry. I text with my right. And what we can do here is we can glue this. We can glue it back together. They're there. Honestly, I don't want to glue. Just leave it as is.

It's the patina thing, dude. I was trying to cover my midsection. Don't worry about it. Let's move on. Let's move on. Let's talk a little football. You know, if this podcast were just audio, that would never have happened.

But again, this is, that's entirely my fault. Yeah. And I apologize. Okay, Urban Meyer. And I feel bad. I feel bad. I will continue to feel bad.

You should feel bad. Hey, before we talk to football, I want to give out a mention here. Yeah. The St. Louis Memorial Award, your Boston Red Sox and the Tampa Bay Rays. That's right. Okay, it's not the River shootout. They're not the devil race, even though the devil's not real. Devil never really hurt anybody.

It was a shootout and on the Fox River, no, Chicago, on the Charles River tonight. There was a showdown on the L.A. River. We'll talk about that in a little bit. Did anybody see that baseball game make? Man, we were even aware that it was in the 13th and didn't click on over. Can you imagine? I know Riscilla was watching it. Because I texted them to be like, what games are you watching?

Watching the socks. Watching the socks. Socks are getting swept. However you would say it. But yeah, no, like, can you imagine 13-in-bbing baseball game and everybody's busy like watching the lightning delay of an NFL football game. People were choosing the lightning delay over the baseball game. A playoff baseball game.

And playoff baseball is the tits, man. Which the socks won six to four thanks to Christian Vasquez. They now lead the raise two to one. I know I was watching the lightning delay. Lead the race two to one. Okay, so St. Louis Memorial Award. Those guys are toiling in obscurity, which sucks. Kyle Schwarber will give it to him.

Three for five, two runs scored. How ugly is that Tropicana feel? huh? The other day I thought it was built in 98. It actually was built in it way before the the race moved there. Oh really? Yeah that stadium was born in the 90s. It's like two years older than Camden Yards, which is aged much better because of that warehouse and the whole setup. But hideous to say the least. In this game that we didn't watch was in Fenway for the record. See, there you go. That dirty water. A dirty water. Hey, the jets and the Falcons. I think that's right on a river too.

The Thames, the River Thames. Thames. It's right on the Thames, man. I should have laid out there and waited for you to say Thames. I probably could have done that. I don't know. What are we talking about with this game? The gradient from us by us. And did you guys have a bad plane run? Well, you know, you would think on the surface this is a bad plane ride.

And I suppose you're thinking the Jets probably had a bad plane ride. I would say that's a good plane ride. Anytime you're in London, it's a good plane ride. 44 to 7, I think we lost the Patriots. I don't know. I blacked out and just literally. Literally the score. Was that the score?

No, literally you blacked the F out. Well, I didn't. I went back to my room and I chewed a lunesta and went to sleep instead of going out and getting drunk. But I still had a nice plane ride home because you're on the nicest plane you travel on all year long. Like, you know, like Virgin Atlantic, like Richard Branson's whole, you know. I'm familiar. Plain line.

Yeah. It's nice. You were in London. Depends on when you leave. You might leave six in the morning. You might leave like the next day at noon. You might leave at four. One team I was on did an Urban Meyer thing in that, I mean, we were all allowed to go back on our own.

Now, we all didn't act like Urban Meyer. I got ripped in the streets of London. And then I went shopping the next day in the, what's the district down there? Herods and whatever it is. But it's really nice. It suffice to say. it's not a bad plane ride no matter what and the coaches are also on vacation you got to remember these guys live at the office so they're in london too everybody wants to have a good time you know

how you like have to face down a bad loss like as soon as possible i think everybody takes a break until they get back to america there was a college football team in the mid-aughts that you might or might not have played on made the music city bowl and it was like hey we can save some money if y'all just drive yourselves to Nashville, Tennessee. We drove to Nashville. A bunch of 18 to 22-year-olds. Just go for it on the way to the bowl game. Me, Biscuit, Ottawa Anderson,

maybe Quakou Robinson, Jason Snelling. There were like 11 of us in an excursion. It was an olive-rented excursion, and we were just rolling 100 miles an hour to Nashville. It was like really a bad idea. But no, not the worst plane ride. I actually have a best plane ride here, Reed.

It's Arthur Blank's plane ride. because you know he's flying at like 40,000 feet. If you fly on one of those big PJs like Arthur Blank probably has and you're flying over the Atlantic, you're just crossing the pond and your G, whatever, like you're at 40, you're above the storm. You're like looking down and there's lightning below you. You know what I mean?

Like he's damn near in a spaceship. He's probably got a really nice flight home. Really probably very quiet. Like you barely hear the engine. I think he's having a nice flight. And that flight is probably on. Thursday. He's probably just going to stay there at Herod's. Yeah. I wouldn't you. And shop for three days. Power of London. Yeah, do all that shit.

So, but the game, the game, the game is a reminder of why the NFL owns us. I mean, the NFL just owns us. Lock and key, dude. I mean, waking up with a hangover this morning. Thank you, uh, thank you, uh, thank you, Krikenberger, uh, for throwing shots of, uh, jack at me. actually rail, rail whiskey I had Saturday night. I woke up and I had the sweats, you know, the first hour you're up when you're hung over. I turned on TV and I remember there's a game in London. And I am suffering through those gradients with a hangover watching Jets Falcons like it's the Super Bowl. I mean, the NFL owns us, man. Everybody, as I turned on the internet, was doing the same thing. It's 9.30 on a Sunday.

There are so many great things I could be doing at 9.30 on a Sunday yet I'm watching that game. NFL rules. At what point are we too old to be getting sweaty hangovers? Well, I just sweat a little bit. Like if I had some dark liquor the night before, usually I'm going to sweat a little bit the first 30 minutes of my day. I mean, I'm great though. Look at me. It's almost midnight, dude.

You're well aware. Boy, howdy. Kyle Pitts. Kyle Pitts went off, dude. And Matt Ryan looked good. He looked good. but I don't know if they're going to be like a playoff team or something. You know, some idiots might have picked him to go to the playoffs.

But they're going to win more games than I thought maybe. You know, a lot of times with a quarterback or with a player who's older, you don't know what they're going through physically. And that's one thing. You know, we read an injury report like it's the end all be all. I don't know, maybe he's been hurt for a few weeks because he looked pretty good today. Granted, it was the Jets. But Tannahild didn't figure out a way to look that good.

I know he was without his top two targets. Matt looked good. He looked better. They got the dolphins, the Panthers, and the Saints coming up. Lost, loss, loss. See, I think there's one win in there. I don't know if it's going to be the dolphins or the Panthers. And the Saints, that rivalry is a great equalizer. They really hate each other no matter what those two teams are doing.

It's going to be close. And Wilson struggled on the other end of things. You know, we said last week, hey, listen, the numbers were good, but his placement was a little bit off. He did not look so good today. Bum to Seafield turf at that stadium on the pitch. Bum to see it anywhere. I know.

Get it out of here. I do love that roof. I do love that stadium is outdoor indoor. There's like an umbrella over the fans because it rains a lot in London town. But I love that big open roof. It still makes it feel like it's outside. Where do they go next?

They're going to Germany. Stem cells. Yeah, I used to get stem cells. Germany. Yeah, Frankfurt, but I don't think they're going to play in Frankfurt. And candidly, I don't even really know what that means. Stem cells? Well, I know it's stem cells, but you're getting stem cells in Germany. I just, to be honest, I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, it's a really good you know in your back. Yeah, no, that's where I watched the Eagles draft, Derek Barnett two weeks after they signed me. Actually, I didn't watch it. I woke up in a cold sweat, not a warm hangover

sweat. I woke up in a cold sweat at 4 a.m. to 100 text saying, sorry, dude. Nah, I think Dortman would be a great city. You ever see Barusha Dortmund and all that yellow smoke and all the crazy as people? Man, they would love American football there. Yeah, like Richmond, F.C. Richmond. Where's Richmond? They play on Nelson Road. In Virginia? No, no, no. It's over there in England. Oh no, I don't watch like the third best league. Ted Lassau. Oh, God, that shitty show, dude. Finalee this past week.

How'd that go? Everybody was probably relieved. Heartstrings tugged. Yeah. As always. So two winless teams this week still. The lions and the Jaguars and both those situations feel very different. You know, same record, very different situations.

And I think we know why. And I think it starts with who the head coach is. Like that's literally why these two situations feel different. Detroit might have a lot less to look forward to from a personnel standpoint because they don't have somebody like a Trevor Lawrence who can change your entire franchise. But they have a head coach who seems to have the team's respect and like actually has them in games that they're not supposed to be in and losing them tragically in ways that are heartbreaking. like today.

I mean, you think you've got that game one and you leave Kirk Cousins too much time. Of course, it ends with him and Zimmer shoving each other. For people on the internet, they don't dislike each other.

They probably dislike each other. Okay, but not... They're just that awkward. Not because they're shoving each other. I used to shove the shit out of coaches, man. You know, like, just shove them hard after we won. Like, I used to shove Greg Williams into the first row, dude.

And I love Greg Williams. But... Did you get your, uh, your bounty check? for that. That's funny. What a good joke. I've never heard that one. Oh man. So many options. You picked that one. I think people misread it online. I was seeing people retweet the video and kind of go, oh, trouble in paradise. Well, one, it's not paradise and there is trouble, probably, but it has done to do with the show. I felt bad looking at the other team at the same time. They were standing there, the lions like shell shock. Dudes were just standing on the field. And any time you're standing on the

field like that, especially in a meaningless game to like most of America, two teams with losing records. By the way, that kind of fucked me because again, I have Vikings under wind total. Good Lord. You feel bad for players like that because you know that look and that's that look where it's like, damn, dude, we really deserve to win this game. I cannot believe the shell shock feeling of losing on the road like that. The noise is deafening. People are running around. it kind of goes it's like slow motion but they've seen this movie

they've lost twice this year on 50 yarders with no time left on the clock the first team to ever do that the question is are they the best O and 5 team ever and I know they climb back into it but this goes to show you that

that Dan Campbell and nice guys like him get a bit of a pass for being a nice guy and being a non-urban Meyer type guy because 4th and 4 at the Minnesota 42 down 13 to 6 you punt. There's some questionable decisions being made

on the sideline from the sideline. They do claw back in it, get the lead and then losing heartbreaking fashion as you discussed. That's the thing about being a good guy and nice guy though. Sometimes you get a little bit longer a leash. Yeah, I mean fourth and four

Minnesota 42, down 13 to 6 you punt. That's questionable. No, no question about it. It's questionable, Mr. Make. And I, like, and the baked in part of this I don't want to give him a pass if he's made bad decisions, but it's not like he's been a train wreck situationally this year. I think he caught some flag for the end of the Ravens game. Some of the clock management decisions that people perceived were kind of foolish.

Now, to be fair, I'm not watching every Lions game, zero to 60, but it seems to me that he's done a better than average job of managing this football team. By the way, the Ravens game, it ends in fourth and 19 for them, if they just make a play on fourth and 19, they have a win. But here's the thing. I totally get, I'm partial to Dan

because I was kind of defending him when people were just shitting on him early. And I get that he's a nice guy so people see that clip after the game. And who doesn't feel like, man, that guy gets it, that guy cares. And if you played for a guy like Dan Campbell, Matt was asking me,

hey, what would you think? And I was like, man, I would want to play for that guy because he's not faking that. Those are real emotions. I know phonies. That's not him, dude. That's not him because I've heard from people that played in New Orleans where he's grinded out.

I've heard from people that played with him, whether it was in New Orleans or somewhere else. He's coached under Sean Payton. He played a long time in the league. And he's qualified to have this job. What he does with it were yet to see. But it was really fucked up to me that out of all these new coaches, we pegged one coach and one program. Okay?

In Houston it was going to be a dumpster fire, and it is to a degree. Players weren't going to care. Players weren't going to be trying. Well, that's not true because they fucked trying to win a game already and played in damn near all of them. Damn near all of them.

So you picked that one to be the dumpster fire culturally. It is not currently, thanks to David Cully, who guys are playing hard for. And then you pegged Dan Campbell to be the idiot because you could fit a sound bite into a quote you the blue checkmark media and and you know the NFL writers and intellectuals and people who never played the game and i don't i rarely do this but i'll do this when people are just very short-sighted you took a sound bite and you ran with it and you looked at the

guy and heard him talk and you said he's a hard oh he's not a hard o you said he's a meathead well maybe he's the prototypical meathead but the entire point was that you knew that players you who never played knew that players would not, quote, buy his stick. It is not a stick. Players buy whatever it is because they're playing hard for him. And on top of that, it wasn't even Dan Campbell. It wasn't Houston. It was Jacksonville.

Jacksonville is checking both boxes, dude. Jacksonville is the dumpster fire. Urban Meyer is the distraction. Urban Meyer is the guy who people aren't getting the stick on because it's not a stick. It's exactly who he is. And it sucks because all you fucking, you know, know pile on people online piled on Dan when the guy with the rap sheet is right there in

front of you with no NFL experience so the guy that actually has broke his back literally playing in the NFL I don't know he broke his back but you take gears off your life doing it if you're a blocking tight end for a decade in the 2000s and 90s that guy was supposed to be the idiot and maybe he is maybe he isn't but all I'm saying is give him a chance and I actually buy his stick, whatever that is. Jacksonville, dude, a lot of coaching issues even today. Crowd booing urban

and pregame warmups? Yeah, dude. Getting him to throw the challenge flag? Yes, dude, getting him to throw the challenge flag. They booed him in pregame warmups. They got him to throw the challenge flag, which was ill-advised, right? Yes.

I mean, I saw two seconds of the highlight and I was like, what are we doing? But the whole the setting for all this is it's a it's like literally it's a long week that felt like a short week for them like they've they've had 10 days since they played but in some ways it feels like they had two days to get ready because that news cycle pushed well into the week and that's really tough to like set your players up to deal with that we all saw the grind thing I do want to say this like when they broke it down on grind the other day like probably of the top 10 words to break you know it down on in the NFL like grind is in in there somewhere like nine or

like eight or nine yeah yeah it's up there you know uh but this was a funny week to break it down on grind and some guys were laughing i don't know if that was intentional or not i doubt trevor lawrence was like let me fucking make fun of my head coach uh but i do think there was some irony there they boot him walking in they boot him into a review end a half he's got a replacement kicker trying a 48 yarder into the win and the Titans turned that into three at the end of the half and Lord knows I didn't watch the second half

or the beginning of the first so I don't know if it was a two for one situation but you know that's a free three points there and then they go for two when they didn't need to the math didn't dictate they needed to and Taylor was red hot mad about

you know James Robinson not getting the ball at the one and evidently they give it to an Ohio State guy and James Robinson was averaging eight yards of pop today. That's why my viewing party goes to Shod Khan. I'm fascinated to know if he doesn't care at all. Yeah. If he's going to ride this thing out?

Yeah. Or if he's like, all right. Well, and then it's the whole fired for cause deal. Yes. So the word is that he cares deeply and that he is a good guy and all this stuff. But I also think, like I saw a movie where an owner, kind of pushed a team into moving from the city that the team was currently, you know,

operating in in St. Louis. And his name rhymes with Dan Gronke. And I don't know if Shot Khan is like hell bent on going to London or somewhere else or being the third team in L.A. or something. But he's really selling this. Because I think he's honest. I think he seems like a good guy. if he's trying to move this team,

it would be the ultimate caper if this was like, hey, I know Urban Myers a dumpster fire. I'm going to plant some women in his bar. I'm going to tell him he can stay home on the plane, and I know exactly what he's going to do, and then, you know, it's going to be a total train wreck and we can move to L.A.

Third team, Menage eto, L.A. Did we just figure something out? I don't know, man. I don't want to talk about Jacksonville anymore. This is a program about winners. Pat's Texans. Cully has him playing hard, man. He does. And this weekend was a bad weekend for

like the head honchos because Bill, although one of the guys suggested this should be the worst playing ride. Kind of provocative, even though they won because it probably doesn't feel much like a win. You tell us. I don't think it feels much like a win. Well, I mean, is Bill always having to teach you something

or is a win-a-win? You don't apologize for winning. I think it feels the same, no matter what. Win, loss, it just feels the same. And that's the way it should feel, honestly. I mean, like, because a lot of times you overreact or underreact based on the way a ball goes off and upright or something. Like, you know, the guys that were a train wreck today that aren't even like barely football players except for Pat McAfee,

who's going to be on a little bit, just a reminder. Like, these guys, you could play your ass off all game, damn near beat the best team in the world, and you doink one, and it's a loss and everything, all your mistakes are magnified. These coaches are human beings too. You know, they get high and low. The inverse can have it.

You can play awful and you can be bailed out. Like the Eagles today played awful. They could be bailed out. And then that week, if you're not smart about it, the team's like running around like a bunch of goofballs. So I think Bill's going to teach. Bill actually doesn't beat you up when he doesn't have to. He knows the times the teams don't need to be like lifted up a little bit.

But I don't think it feels like a real win. Him and Saving had really tough weekends. and I guess Sabin, its first assistant to beat Nick Sabin, his Jimbo and Bill went toe to toe with David Cully in the matchup of the century. Davis Mills was almost the sword and the stone guy. I mean, almost of all the first year quarterbacks. 312 and 3 TDs. Holy shit, dude. It's apropos that it was almost Davis Mills. Davis Mills looked very bad last week. Yeah.

But now he's showing improvement. He's showing he's not a Peterman type. No, he's not Peterman. And I hate that Peterman always catches the stray. Sorry about that, Nate. Yeah, I'm sorry, Nate. Because you're a great quarterback.

Otherwise, you wouldn't have been in the pros. That's the way I want to put this. Yeah. You just had a bad game. I think it was fucked up the way they put you in. And on top of that, he had no shot that day because everybody loves Tyrod Taylor. You're a pretty average of pit too, so.

Fuck you, big. Not terrible average. He just doesn't like you for so recently. I like him fine. If you're listening. Yeah, I know the NFL's in good hands now. You got like Kyler, Justin Herbert, Lamar, you know, like, who else? Davis Mills.

Davis Mills. You finished my joke. God damn it. These pats, they're in rock fights every week, dude. This is just something else. And by the way, Jamie Collins doesn't even have to turn off his utilities in New England, like when he leaves. Like, he just goes to some fucking Rust Belt team and then gets traded back to New England

and walks right back. into the same apartment, makes plays, and he's going to get paid. Mike Sandow, I think I had a tweet about this. Some team is going to pay him next year and then he'll be back in Foxborough again because he just can't bill and him can't quit each other. I love Jamie Collins.

Saints and the football team. So Washington D-Line Watch. They've been much maligned on this podcast. If you took it the wrong way, they've been much maligned. I've always said they're a good bunch they've been a victim of the hype and they haven't gotten home enough this year they're just not like elite and certainly that's not a hot take anymore but today they were pretty good

okay in what i saw they made plays that affected the game and that's what you expect out of a unit like that they forced two turnovers for sure okay the james pick the ball was ugly but jonathan allen a face full of jonathan allen he goes hump to power which is a move where you kind of try to get under, think Reggie White. Okay, think Reggie White in the Super Bowl. There's only a few guys that can, like, land that move. Howie Long was one of them.

Yeah, Howie Long was one of them. I landed it once in college. You try it in the NFL and guys were just not moving. Explain it. So there's different kinds of ways you can hump somebody. But like, you know. You're telling. Yeah.

So I'm running up the field, getting the tackle to turn. I go to chop his outside hand down. He's turned all his weight is like bailing towards the opposite end zone behind him. And if I can get my, let's say, bicep under his armpit, you know, take him where his momentum's going. It's almost like one of those exercises in the weight room where you put the barbell in the corner of the weight room and you put like a 45 on there and you rotate it. It's all like hip rotation. But with like a full running start. Now that's if you're an end.

Defensive tackles hump from like parallel with the guard a lot. He comes right at Pete who's a big guy, gets under his arm. The hump doesn't really land and he just keeps going. And that just goes to show you how strong this guy is. Anyways, that's, that first picks him. Now the play Chase Young made creating a turnover. He forced the fumble and Ramcheck, who's a really good tackle. I know this from experience.

I'm sorry to give the, it's not like I know the. book on him. My old ass beat him for a sack in my last game. It doesn't mean I fucking had a hat trick. So if he's out there, it's not like I think I'm any good. I just know that if you get him turned sideways, his power goes away. And that's true with a lot of tackles, but like,

that's what Chase Young did. He got up to the level. If you watch that play again, got up to the level, got his hips turn, and Ramchek kind of loses his power there. It was a great rush, two great rushes, two turnovers. Now, Taysam Hill on the other end? He got concussed.

today. And I felt bad about that. I know we joke a lot about Hayton Taysom Hill, but when he was down on the field, I was like, I hope everybody tweets out at least that I hope he's okay after all the bashing we've done of him because he's a good football player. He's such a good football player that I think James Winston led him into that situation. He's also impeding James's growth in New Orleans. So I've seen stranger things. More targets for Mark West Calloway, including Hail Mary's into the end zone at the end of halves, which, I mean, turned out to be an 11 point ball game, but that was pivotal.

It was huge, man. And I love a Hail Mary, dude. Love a Hail Mary. It's the toughest play to watch in football. I mean, that you could call P.I. on damn near any of them. And you had the football team, defensive backs, not give a whole lot of effort there.

Even P-Iing. Not even a college try. And here's the thing. We always say it was the biggest rule that even the D-Lyman know is like knock the ball down, dude, don't try to catch the fucking ball. But yeah, here's the deal. I mean, more targets for Callaway, more vertical shots.

They use Camaramo, I mean, which is a big deal. Like, that's your best player. Figure out ways to use them. I love them under center. I love him taking handoffs. I love them looking like an offensive football team. And they got more play action going, which was really cool. And Reid pointed out, it was like, once the play action opened up, you know, they were using

the play action to get the ball to their best player. And James got to build some confidence in him. Alvin didn't have a target last week. He had aid today. Yeah, I mean, like, they did this with him before. I mean, there was a period, I think, you know, my first year out when we just started doing this podcast, I want to say going into like the Atlanta game late in the year,

remember they had to overcome Drew Brees' injury. They were not getting him the ball. And they go through these weird spells where he just doesn't get it. So your Broncos, Reed, and the Steelers, I guess I would ask you, are the Broncos and the Broncos organization? Are they holding Teddy Bridgewater back? You mentioned that earlier that you were going to bring this up. I love all the Broncos players. Wow.

They're all awesome. Yeah? All of them that ever don the uniform? Well, all the current ones for sure. Okay. Are there any Broncos that you didn't like that played ever? I'm, uh, Caden Stearns.

No, he, no. Well, do you do so bad? No, no, he's a safety. Yeah, I'm about him. Okay, cool. The, um, pop quiz. If you think of any that you hated back in the day when you were a kid, let us know. Well, there was, uh, I don't think I had, there was a safety.

You came from Washington. Cravens, who I wanted to be really good, but he didn't. Oh, Sue of Cravens. Yeah. Yeah, I remember him. Yeah. Yeah, well, you got to hate John Elway, not the player. Right.

You know. Hey, the Broncos, man. I really do think I'm kind of joking, but I'm also kind of serious because I'm watching Ben and Teddy, and I'm like, Teddy's a better quarterback right now. And that's not saying that, like, Teddy's necessarily an MVP as a result of being better than Ben.

But damn, he throws some nice balls, man. I mean, that fourth and goal to Hinton, the beautiful go route to Sutton late. I mean, he brought that team back against a good defense. And the interception he threw at the end, it was because he had to. So I feel for, for Teddy, I don't think this team is as good as I thought

they were around him. And the unfortunate thing is for these players, when you're on a three and one team that's fighting to be four and one, you really believe, like you believe, like you're like, oh, this could be our year and they should believe. But I just don't think they have quite enough to consistently win into November and December. I think they're gonna be this team when you look back

at the beginning of the season every year, there's like a team that gets hot. Unfortunately, I think, I think it might be the Broncos for a little bit. Ben, though, showed flashes of Ben. I mean, the Deontay Johnson shot was like a 42-yard throw. I think I did the math. And he crow-hopped into that motherfucker, like he was a center field or so.

I don't know. Sometimes he looks good. I like the fact they opened it up a little bit more today. PI set up 17-6. Third quarter, three minutes ago, where the fuck has been throwing the ball? I know that Ray-Rae McLeod is in the area, but like throws like that. and the worst thing is they're at Heinz Field and you can hear the crowd load up

like when there's a shot situation they got muscle memory they're like it's burning their brains like let's start cheering he's crow hopping so you know Claypool's got somebody beat but then the ball comes out and it doesn't look the same as he used to

looks like just about 35 runs 25 passes for the Steelers that seems about right it's probably where it should be that's about right and Najee Harris had a really good day Yep. 23 for 122. Which is incredible.

I did not think he'd have this kind of production. So at least credit to them because when people drafted, when they drafted Najee Harris, it was like, why? You know what I mean? Like love the kid, but why? Well, he's productive. He's their most important offensive player. He's catching the ball too a lot.

Eagles Panthers now. Did you hear any of Greg Olson call this game? I mean, he was delightful. As I told you in the open, I did not saw it didn't hear it dude he was great he's a real natural

I mean I've known Greg a long time and uh you know I certainly would say this about most of my friends like I didn't get to hear squads but I guarantee you I'd say he did a good job you know I'm not going to shit on my buddies um Greg Olson

I heard him and he was awesome he properly identified an ET stunt an ETN first tackle rapping I can't tell you how basic that is and how many times I've heard dudes just mailing it in talking about D-Ly-O-Line play. So he's definitely off to a good start if you're a defensive line.

I've been watching. And that's been kind of the Eagles problem. They never get off to a good start. I mean, they start slow as hell. This was one of the worst games I've ever seen a team that won a football game on the road play. Like, it was pretty remarkable. If you're an eagle, you might feel good because you're like, we couldn't play any worse for 45 minutes.

and we won. Virginia defense in Miami, in Louisville. Yeah. Improving. Yes. Showing signs. Two and no. That's all it matters. Yeah, Philly defense giving up points on first drive for the first five games this year. That's not good. It's not good at all. And slow starts plagued them as a team under Doug too,

you know, for a period there. Like, listen, the defense lifting them up, Slay had two big picks. He kept a minute. Hargrave is ridiculous right now. He's going to be an all-pro guy. He deserves. to be, you know, and he may never have a year like this again. This might be an outlier. Maybe this is like more of the same. This is why they brought him here. He was always known to be a really good player. He's playing great this year. And Fletcher's getting all the slide too. So got on the board today with sack. They pressure them a lot. About half the dropbacks there. So I want to put a lot on Darnold. I want to say that, you know, it's clock striking midnight on Darnold. It's also

early. You know, I don't want to just jailing either, dude. You know, like, it is early in the year. It is early out of New York for Sam, although some of those throws were awful, and he's the reason why they lost. It is early on Jalen, who had some really rough sequences. I mean, like the end of the half, he fucking, he rolls out, he's got a free play.

You know there's an off-sides, and he just chucks the, he hits the mascot, dude. And Greg Olson's like, yeah, you got to put the ball in play there. Like, I've never had to hear somebody say that. and then the next play he misses Cuez who's wide open but that's a little sequence man and he's a young kid I mean who had four games out of the pandemic

and now he's learning to play quarterback playing for a coach who's not running the football would you text me today? I said run the ball they need to run the ball. Devante Smith said run the ball during the Bama game you don't think he's sitting there like damn dude I just saw this on TV only with not as good athletes and run the ball with the quarterback you had zero rushing yards

at halftime, finish nine for 30 and two touchdowns. No vertical shots, no run game, two yards per attempt, that bad sequence but they came out in the second, and overcame a lot of their best players not playing well, okay, like best players. When your best players don't play well,

you're going to struggle, and there was plenty to go around and like, these are all my friends, so I'm not like but it's my job. So like, you know, you get a bad snap by Kelsey, you get Devante Smith, what do he do? He dropped the ball, it turned into a pick. Ertz had a drop. you know, Sanders went out of bounds.

Sanders went out of bounds twice. I love Miles Sanders. I think he's their best offensive player. Why are we running out of bounds in four-minute mode? Like it was inexplicable some of the things they were doing. And no, somebody asked me, is Minchue the answer? He's not the answer. You don't ruin dudes to play a guy who's not, definitely not the answer.

This team is not good enough to make a run this year, okay? But if you make a decision like that anywhere in the near future, I don't know how that affects Jalen. I don't think it's fair to him yet. And it's also, it's just not fair to the team. Like, give him a chance. Give Sam Darnold a chance, although the Panthers are going to have to make

a very awkward decision at the end of the year. As Jeff Schwartz pointed out today, very adeptly, because people don't think about this. What is winning if you're going to be seven and nine and you don't know who the quarterback of the future is? Like, that's kind of not winning. I know Herman Edwards would say you play to win the game

and all that, but like, if they play themselves in a situation where they're in like the bottom of the, like mid bottom of the first, like kind of like a middling team that doesn't make the playoffs, which they probably won't. We've got a meme shoved up. What's it say? It's in the works. I don't know if we should give it away.

Okay, we won't give it away. That's to do with the playoffs and Sam Donald. But the point is they think they're there. And they should have been, they should be four and one right now. And they go get Stefan Gilmore. They do think they're there. They tried to get Jalen Smith.

Yep. J.C. Horn should come back at some point. Like, they think they're that team. And you know what? I love Matt Rule. Matt Rule is one of my favorite coaches in the NFL already. I just get good vibes from, I think he's done a really nice job there. I think he's made nice hires. I just don't know what they're going to do with Sam.

If he doesn't prove he's the one and they play themselves into like nine and eight, ugh. You know, like, what do you do then? Because you've got to make a decision on this kid. So, yeah. And Stanford Steve said it here. USC calls and says, you sure you're good?

I don't think he'll leave for USC, but I do think Joe Brady might be headed somewhere soon, and that's going to be an issue. Or maybe it's not. But that back end is really good for them defensively, really good. I mean, they're so good. And up front, they're good too. I mean, Brian Burns, Hassan Reddick,

who had like five sacks against Arizona two years ago or a year ago. He had two and two plays today. So they get after it. I just don't know if they're quite there, and they've got to make an awkward decision. Dolphins bucks jumping around the NFC. South. First off, how are we, we're not, like the NFC South has managed to make us not watch Tom Brady. Like, we're not watching Tom Brady. I did not even think to look at that game. He's,

he scored five touchdowns. The guy is, he could be in a Nugentics ad. He's so old and he's so good still, dude. It's boring. Are we bored? Like, we're bored. Nobody was watching that Atlanta game a couple weeks ago. Not a soul. Nobody was watching. in this game, except for serial killers, right? It's a great point. And the NFC, like, if we were in New England, watching Tom Brady playing New England, it could be fucking...

Three and 12 Jets are in town. It could be the Winnipeg Jets. You could be the Winnipeg Jets, and CBS would be there with their shiny, their A-A team, like calling a 47-3 blowout. Yep. For some reasons, the market and all that stuff, but they're hiding them down there.

Oway Award. Antonio Brown. Guy gets the ball and he scoots. He still got that burst. Yeah, he's really fast. He still got that giddy up. He's one of the fastest older people I've ever seen. Same with Deshawn Jackson.

Deshawn Jackson still scares people. Antonio Brown, seven catches, 124 yards, two TDs. And he's like catching that ball even with his man. Yeah, the guy's still good. Geez. Bears Raiders, his old team, the Raiders. You remember that? For a bit, yeah.

Holy shit. You ever want to leave somewhere? just do a whole bunch of erratic shit burn your feet up and just act generally off your rocker like if you ever want to leave this podcast if you come in with burnt feet I think that sort of thing would be welcomed around here okay I think I need to go the other way

you need to start acting like really just be myself like really want to just get out of here that sort of thing well I got a viewing party for you on a serious note it's fucking Gus Bradley looking at Gruden the whole game thinking am I going to get a shot at this job because offense didn't

play real well day. An incredibly distracting week for good reason what John Gruden said was ridiculous. What he wrote even. What he said in that email. I don't know how some people are kind of like it's not that bad. I don't know what he meant. It was 10 years ago.

He was a 48 year old man. Okay. And I'm I'm friends with D. Marie Smith. the NFLPA stuff aside like UVA guy I know de Marie Smith relatively well and I hate that for him I hate that that that gets uncovered and and you're having to deal with this shit this week and then on top of that to hear gruden kind of mention in his pseudo apology hey I reached out to him and he didn't reach out back so I hope he does like that that part that's ridiculous so Gus bradley's probably looking uh and and and and viewing party hell I'd hate that

to see D. Marie Smith sitting there looking at the TV like, are you fucking kidding me, man? Short week, physical team they played last week in the Chargers and a quarterback that you don't have a lot of tape on in Justin Fields. So that's why we bet the bears and we were right. We were right. Line didn't look quite right for good reason. Yeah, yeah, duh bears. And the throws from Fields were pretty good, right there, Reed? Yeah, he had some real good ones, especially in the fourth quarter to ice the game through his first professional touchdown pass. Oh, nice. A nice little couple yarder to the tight end.

Oh, nice. Fuck yeah, dude. But the Bears defense. Get him to play, Killeleel Mack. Eight tackles. Yep. A sack. Two quarterback heads?

We got one. One? Officially. I'm going to give him two. Okay. He deserves it. That was really fucked up. And you know what was really fucked up is that like we made that whole big deal about who wins

and loses the trade? Guess who won the trade? Nobody. Nobody. It's like one of those situations. Like, uh, graphics guys on primetime games two years ago

they won the trade. Yeah they did like people who needed something to talk about for a while won the trade. I mean fuck we did it on this podcast but Mac is still a stud and I think that that's a funny thing is I think people are forgetting about Colio Mac I mean because of where he plays and and so on

and so forth and because he's a victim of his own success if he's not getting 15 in a year and doing like bane shit on national TV on a Sunday night nobody's my Beville Conway NFL edition right here. Oh wow. Raiders Bears.

No way. Silver, black, silver, Navy, white, navy. Look great. The Cleveland and L.A. game, which you're going to get to in a little bit, could have been mine. Very well, could have been mine. Very well. But Ole Miss, Arkansas was gorgeous as well.

Really, I mean, there's a few. We'll get to that in a little bit. But damn, yeah, that's a good call by you. I wouldn't even thinking about that. Niners and Cardinals, another game I wouldn't really thinking about. Because there weren't a lot of scoring. and I don't like looking at those Cardinals uniforms. I'm just going to say that.

There were a couple games I could really lock in on. I decided to lock in on the others, although I want to give out my OA award to Rondale Moore because he made the most ridiculous circus catch on the sideline. I've seen all year, damn near. The body control and that motherfucker is insane. We need the old uni's make. I don't even know about that.

The Pat Tillman? Yeah, the Pat Tillman. I mean a huge upgrade over the current ones, but like Conrad Doblers. Maybe we haven't seen the right uniforms. Well, if they're going to be playing in like the Super Bowl or they're going to be doing one of those things,

I don't want to see another like Kurt Warner Cardinals. No kidding. Outfit. Get the St. Louis Cardinals kits over to Arizona. Yes, dude. They cannot let these guys in the playoffs until they change their uniforms. How about your giants, man? Yeah.

How about those giants? Sequin, man. I mean, what more can you say? It's hard to feel bad for a guy after a while. Yeah, I've been there. Well, I'm already feeling bad for him, I mean to say. Like, so I just, this is one of those things, man. And congratulations, though.

On the loss, thank you. Yep. One step closer to Matt Corral. Hey, that guy's got fucking swag, huh? Yeah. If he doesn't have me, bro, if he doesn't have me jumping out of the gym for his leadership ability and his, like, kind of demeanor, he would say more words in two weeks

and Daniel Jones has said in that building in his career I like the kid dude I like the kid draft him get well soon Danny Dimes like the way like Lane Kiffin topically said to me when I visited the Raiders man I was meeting with all their coaches

the whole thing walked by Lane Kiffin in the hallway coach you want to meet with the guy who's visiting he was like no we like him we'll take him that's amazing I was like damn, dude, so maybe I shouldn't get drafted here

because it doesn't seem like he's doing his dude diligence on me. They went running back, Darren McFadden. Number four overall. My guy, dude. I love Derek McFadden. Cool dude, by the way. But yeah, the whole Sequeon thing, dude, it's like, Wentz, okay, like,

we talk about rushing players back. Nate, Dr. Fax was talking about this. All credit to Fax to bring this up, but you know, they rush Sequan back. I mean, there's such external pressure, there's such internal pressure that tells you as a football player, you got to get back, man.

And when you're like somebody with the weight of the world on your shoulders, the top five pick, you fucking rush, dude. And Sequin's a good kid. And Sequan's a hardworking dude. So I don't know that he's ever been ready. I don't want to speculate too much, but it's hard coming back from major injury. It's not like when your ACL heals or whatever, like the chain is in good shape, north and south of there.

Carson Wentz, I saw it with his ACL. I'm still waiting for him to look the same. He's never looked the same physically. Now he's not some terrible quarterback, but he's kind of, he's mid-grade right now, and I think a lot of it has to do with he's never gotten back. Like when he came back the next year, his back was fucked up.

You know, he's been suffering through a lot of injuries. I can remember when I've been hurt, you come back and it's something else. It's not your knee, it's not your ankle, it's the next thing. And so I hope, you know, Coughlin did it to Fournette. Taylor brought that up, right? I mean, Coughlin did it to Fournett.

It's hard to get back and play full speed in the NFL. Players don't rush, man. If you got any poppers listening out there, be your best advocate. I know somebody could Wally Pipp you, but if you're running around limping, somebody's going to take your job as well. Cowboys have put up 41, 36, and 44 points last three weeks. Cowboys look good.

Trayvon Diggs. Trayvon Diggs looks good, man. And it looks good in the number. Note that again. So somebody said this week when I posited that they might be currently the best brother combo in the league, somebody's like,

somebody forgot about the Watt brothers. This isn't 2018. It's like, what the fuck are we talking about right now, dude? JJ is a really good player right now, but he's not, these two guys, Stefan and Trayvon are like, top pro. Yeah, they're all pro.

right now, right this second. Boses, you got some of that too. Yeah, the Boses are the next ones. It's either the Boses right now or these guys. Like legit. Speaking of the Boses, one of the Boses plays for the L.A. Chargers who decided not to play a lot of defense today. And with both tackles out,

I thought the Browns would struggle to protect, but Stifansky continues to make things happen. I mean, what a coach. him and staley two big brains that have the respect of the internet which is the toughest place to gain respect hey

worst plane ride for me the Browns yep that's a good one yeah I mean like this is one of those gut wrenching we put so much into this Super Bowl or not Super Bowl that this like we might see this team in the AFC Championship we're going to use this as a barometer X, Y, Z like so important

it's a measuring stick road game when you lose like that, it is heartbreaking. And some of the calls were questionable, the PI on fourth and four, that sort of thing. So it makes, in your mind, you're riding back on that plane, you're dejected because not only did you lose to a team you might see, especially if you play defense,

but also you're three and two. And you're up 14 in the second half. Pass, dude. Yeah. Somebody said they're bludgeoning them. Like, I missed the first couple seconds to the second half, and they were like, they are bludgeoning them. And I was like, damn,

because I had the Chargers, right? And I like the Chargers, obviously. But this was the L.A. River Shootout, man, or the L.A. River Showdown. Sorry. There's a river there. In Los Angeles, yeah. Yeah, where Ryan Gosling likes to ride his muscle car.

Yeah. Where Jake Gyllenhaal videotapes crimes. That's right. For news stations. That's right. Chinatown, Jake. That's a different reference. Yeah, dude.

Really good for you, dude. Damn. Really good. I didn't know you like to get wet. Yeah, yeah. Where James Dean revels without a cause. All right, I think we know where the L.A. River is. But the Chargers being ballsy.

It's just another wheelbarrow game for them, fourth and two. Backed up in their own, in their own... In the blue zone. They're going for it in the fucking blue zone, dude. That's not even a zone. We've got to make that up. It's incredible to me. Fourth and seven.

I know like it's the computers telling Brandon Stately, do this but god damn he really trusts those computers i mean it is impressive this guy's going he probably has a tesla right now brandon staley drives a tesla self-driving totally trust them totally trust them he's going to be in there looking like a fucking one of darts vaders buddies when the robots take over in the with the little hat that's brandon staley he kind of looks like one of those guys too and one of those rumbas yeah he's got a fucking mechanical manned ass house yeah yeah yeah Yeah. What happens when there's a glitch, a virus, okay? But I like the way he's calling these games because he's not afraid, dude.

And it bleeds into his team's mindset. We had Austin Echler on here. He was awesome, by the way. Like, coolest dude ever, just as you would expect. Member of the houses. Member of the houses. Member of my dad's fantasy team. He auto-drafted Echler.

He was like freaking out. I was like, that's a good thing, dad. Guys, like the Michael Jordan of fantasy. He's also a damn good football player. and he talked about how methodical they are. And I think to him methodical means we just stick to who we are. We don't get too high. We don't get too low.

And that's the kind of team they are. They're fearless, man. They're totally fearless. Third and seven, Justin Herbert throws a ball to Keenan Allen, end of the game. Keenan Allen drops the ball. Fourth and seven, he goes right back to him. They don't even think about it, dude. They just play.

And that's why I love that team. They missed an extra point at the end. Got a little scary for him. But damn, he might be the MVP by the end of the year. If they win 12, 13, 14 games, they might just have to give it to him. I don't think he's the most valuable player to his team. I think that's Lamar Jackson. Because if you took Lamar Jackson off the Ravens, they're the Patriots.

See what I'm saying? Or worse. Yeah. But this guy is an alien. My game ball goes to Mike Williams. AI Kobe sort of stat line. that it took them 16 targets to get to eight catches, but eight catches, 165 yards, two touchdowns. Mike Williams, Keenan Allen.

Guys ridiculous. They're really good. Streaky ridiculous. Really, really good. And Echler, as you mentioned, all purpose back. Dude, so fun. Such a fun team. And, you know, people are coming around on the coach and everything.

But, you know, if the internet doesn't make me hate the chargers, they really are the most likable team of all time because they are the, now people are on them. Hackers, bangles, dude, the best game of the day. And I kind of want to give my game ball to Joe Burrow. I'm going to give it to a losing quarterback. I'm going to walk, virtually walk our game ball to Joe Burrow in his hospital room, which I hope is really comfortable. He's dealing with a fucking throat contusion, bro.

If I had a throat contusion, I thought he was dead. I thought Joe Burrow was dead. I was weeping, dude. They helicoptered him like John Elway, and now the camera's, are really good. So you can see every muscle in his face just like, just shaking. I thought he was dead, dude.

He went to the blue tent. I thought it was over. I had the Bengals plus three, which ended up being a push thanks to Zach Taylor and his timid ass. He got timid on third and five. Joe Burroughs been looking like Tom Brady, dude.

He's been, like literally he's got ice water or ice. Here's a question for you. Ice going through your veins or ice water. Ice water. I don't want it all chunky in my veins. Yeah, right? Yeah. It could be like a blood clot situation.

Right. Yeah. Do people say ice going through the veins or ice water? Oh, damn. I've been just like ice in his veins. I just don't use. Ice in his veins. I've been afraid to use the saying for that reason.

Is it ice in his veins? It's ice in his veins. And that makes no sense. Your carotid arteries just got some ice in there. Like what happens then? Yeah. Joe Burrow came out of the tent. I was like,

there's no way he's out here to be anything more than a decoy. But like the first thing he did was hit Jamar Chase right through Savage's hand on a dime for a touchdown. I was like this guy really, this guy could be what LeBron is to Cleveland for Cincinnati. I mean, that's a little bit of hyperbole. There's a long way to go. But imagine if he wins a Super Bowl in Cincinnati. The jungle is like rocking right now, dude. Is he going to leave and come back?

No, he's going to skip the leaving and coming back thing. Okay. That's really good. But yeah, no, I mean, we haven't even. talked about Aaron Rogers. That's how exciting Joe Burrow is, is like in a loss I'm talking about Joe Burrow. And Devante Adams and Aaron Rogers went for like two hondo. Yep. And Aaron started slow, dude. He missed on like a back shoulder that they always hit. And then all the sudden fireworks. Great game. Amazing game. And obviously the kicking stuff was a disaster. And we're going to

get to that with Pat McAfee in a second. But to sum it up, you got the Zach Taylor mishap, because as I didn't finish earlier, third and five, you've been converting, you run the ball, and you have to take a 57-yarder instead of like, hey, you've got an entire minute plus left, dude,

and you've been converting left and right, and now you're scared, and I hate that. And the McPherson missed there was certainly warranted. It was a tough kick. Crosby missed like a million kicks. I thought he was going to be our hollow man,

but he actually redeemed himself. You all have seen that by now. now but McPherson thinking he hit that kick okay that he's the hollow man yep bad scene tough scene for my man there are things that I've done on the field that I am wildly embarrassed by that didn't even make didn't see the light of day because your alignment my bad moments like y'all don't even notice because you don't even know the good ones when they happen that was bad yeah it's the Nick young nick young dot jeff very good yep you haven't seen squid game yet no for those of you seeing squid game

I'm thinking maybe after today we just put all the kickers out there and do a squid game with the kickers sounds funny no idea what you're talking about but sounds funny I like it and that's best playing ride for me the Green Bay Packers

escaping that jungle with a win people on podcasts all they're doing is talking about Joe Burrow and yet they're four and one yeah they're like Jason in the Halloween movie short little flight yeah it is right away

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That's k-e-e-e-p-s dot com slash greenlight to get your first month free. K-E-E-E-P-S dot com slash green light. All right, the long-awated appearance on the green light pot. Pat is such a good dude. I've gone on the Pat McAfee's show sometimes. I didn't know if he'd return the favor. I texted him like an hour ago. like yeah I'll come on the pod so Pat McAfee welcome to the show dude hey man I definitely wasn't the first option but I'm thankful to be here you know how this works I'm gonna tell you who the first option was this is gonna trip you out it was Darius Butler uh oh my dude yeah and then and then

shit went haywire because of all the kickers and I was like who could I call that could explain to me what's happening but Pat McAfee well I don't know if I can explain it or not but man, I don't like seeing it either. I mean, these balls are flying everywhere. It started on Thursday night, too. I mean, it goes bad on Thursday. I thought it was going to maybe, you know, hopefully stop then. Then it carried into Sunday.

We got motherfuckers missing everywhere. I mean, it is every we got great kickers missing right now. I don't even know. And on top of it, Pat, like, I feel like with the way people are just like, yeah, we don't kick extra points anymore. Like, I feel like you guys are going to start being like part-time workers, you know, like, are you guys going to be part-time employees? Are the NFL are guys going to get construction gigs soon?

Well, I mean, I'm sure a lot of punters and kickers would do well, you know, on the construction sites. Totally. A couple of sigs, you know, burn some squares, hold some signs. I think kickers and punters would do well on construction sites, but not only just extra points you're talking about. I mean, the analytics war on going for it on fourth down in field goal range is insane. I mean, it feels like the field goal is slowly moving out. in days like today aren't going to make people

if it's fourth in a yard I mean it's Mason Crosby so they still trolling him out there you know because it's fucking Mason Crosby but it was getting to a point almost where it doesn't matter who the kicker is like we are not playing for a field but we're going to go for the we are in four down territory regardless yeah I was shocked

Aaron and Aaron's your boy so like by the way it's really cool that you guys get Aaron on the show I mean that's a nice little thing when you guys set that up where you're like all right this is going to go well but then you got be afraid if he has a rare bad game. Are you, like, kind of puckered up when he comes on this show? Like, what do I ask him?

What do I not ask him? Yeah, I mean, it's always quite a little battle mentally on what, you know, because I have to cover everything where I'm a coward, you know? So, like, my big thing is I'm going to talk about everything. Like, I'm not scared of much, especially if it's football, I'm going to do it, you know? So if he has a bad game or bad play, like the constant battle is like, how do I present this situation? That's scary, dude.

He's probably one of the scariest dudes to ask a stupid question. You know what I mean? And like he's so smart. Inevitably, you're going to ask one that he doesn't love. But I did not think that they were going to allow. I thought Aaron would be like, hey, Mason, you're like done for the day. We're going to go get six here. I think the guy who really fucked it up was Zach Taylor.

Because it's third and five. Joe Burroughs been looking like Tom Brady converting everything. and instead of having faith in him, you know, hitting it out for six yards, you run the football and you set up a 57 yard or was it or something? Yeah, and then he hits the flag off it. He thought that was then. I mean, that's a heartbreaker. I mean, he was celebrating.

Making, making, he was going bananas. He just made a kick to beat the Packers. That would have been his third game winner in five weeks as a rookie. I don't even look at the officials. I look at the kicker and the holder. They always know if it went in or not. And right away, they were like, boom, buddy, nailed it, ball game. Have you ever seen that, Pat?

Have you ever seen a guy like misjudge a field goal so badly? No, no, especially a holder. Like Huber, Huber's my guy. He's their holder, you know? Is he 46? See the guy with the lettuce? No, no, that's Clark. He's a legend, though.

You would be big, hey, you, me and Clark get along really well. Okay, good. I like Clark just by the look of Clark. I feel like he walked out of a boomer, a sison lead locker room there down in Centsy. He walked into my office in Indy one time. I think when the Bengals were in time they came and we exchanged gifts. He's a good guy. Okay, good.

He looked like a good guy. All y'all are drug addicts. That's what you're saying? Okay, we got it. Okay. Oh, no. What are you talking about? No, we're not talking about drugs.

He doesn't do drugs. What's your name? Macon? Yeah. Like a like a co-lab between Mason and Crosby, if you will. Yeah. Oh, Big game winner today. Hey, Big game winner out of you today.

Hey, Pat, you got any light bulbs in that room? or what's going on? I was told this is audio only, dude. Yeah, it's audio only. I was just saying that. I was told that too. I don't, yeah, this motherfucker. So we grew up together and then he sells real estate now.

And he came in like the first day we started the pod to help out. And now he's my co-host two years later. So, but I guess the thing is for me like, are guys going to give this guy a lot of shit, McPherson for thinking he missed the kick? Like what's a fine system like in a kicking room? Because in D-line rooms,

we have big fines for doing stupid shit. That's one of the things like the holder. That's why I was so confused. Huber has a perfect view. You know, like the holder. And good call by making, by the way, the real estate podcast hosting Muggle over there. He's doing both. He's doing both.

I was always a good person to watch when Vinty was kicking because I was normally pretty pumped up when it went in. Right. So as soon as that ball leaves, normally I could tell. So when Huber was celebrating with them, I think that was the most interesting thing. but I think they were all pumped. So I think they would have to find each other, you know. Like in our particular room, there's only three people in a coach and assistant. And everyone's in a while, the assistant coach will have to get it.

The coach will have to get it. It's this much tighter room. So it's more of a democracy policy in finding and shit like that as opposed to maybe one or two OGs making decisions like in the D-Line room or the outside linebacker room. Oh, yeah. You definitely have the D-Line room down, Pat. But I'm like, you know, you got the Crosby misses. Obviously, they have confidence in them probably because he's,

he is such a prolific kicker, but you mentioned Adam Vinatieri, your guy, like, who's a legend. But I remember a couple, in the last couple years, I think, I forget when it was, but he had a tough run. I feel like is it almost easier kind of sucking at kicking and then sucking one day than it is being like a Hall of Famer and then sucking all the sudden one day. Like, what goes into that? Have you ever asked like Adam, what happened those couple weeks? Like Adam Ventura is just like an old quarterback, you know? Like we're kind of seen it with Rothensberger, even though they won, you know what I mean? They won today. You're kind of seen it there for the first couple of weeks.

A good comparison is, like, Justin Tucker is Aaron Rogers. You know, he's like the best thrower of the ball of all time, you know, that whole thing. And Adam Venetary's Tom Brady, right? Like, that's how it all goes in the kicking thing. And instead of eating avocado ice cream and, you know, that weird chocolate like Tom Brady was doing,

he did work on pliability, but I don't think his body was able to go. I mean, he was 45, 46 years old. Yeah. So I think he understood that father time was going to, to get him at some point. So I think it hurt him because of how competitive he is. He's one of the most competitive humans of all time. That's why he still did what he did for so long, such a pressure-packed position like, yo, he could have retired years ago. I had enough money, had everything.

So I think he understood, though, that just father time got him. And I think he got over it pretty quickly. And I think he feels good. Now his son's about to become alleged to be kicking a goat, bro. Venetieri is just the unquestionable goat. Maybe this is obvious. I'm curious when a punter knows it's time to go. Do you start losing a yard or two or? Or three. Is there a new young buck? Because you can probably roll out of bed right now. Put it in the old coffin corner there, Pat.

Yeah, I've seen it on the internet. Oh, yeah, the old coffin corner. I could drop that thing down in there. Look you making, huh? That's why you need to get out of the real estate game and focus a little bit more on the podcast. Thank you, Pat. We need to have you on. Hey, applaud.

Everybody. Like, you know what, Pat's guys all clap. Motherfuckers clap. You know, because you heard it from Pat McAfee. You need to quit your other job, dude. But when I need a new house, you could moonlight. Okay. That sounds good.

Hey, I understand the real estate business has always been a good one, right? They're not going to create more land. They're not making any more dirt, which is his. This is the modern gold rush on the internet, though. Making fucking, come on. Get your picking your ex, pal. Let's go, dude. What are you doing?

Exactly. Yeah, I'm hitched to a star here, Pat, that, that's my entire life. Dude, you're a punter. Just get on with it. It happens. But what happens, like, when you are, you never hit that? you got out early, which is like such an alpha move to be. Like I, I wouldn't notice it. Like Johnny Hecker, they say has had a tough year. Like, or he's not, he hadn't had the years he's

hadn't passed. And that's my guy. I wouldn't know though what that means. Is that true or false one? And then like, Hecker had a rough year. I don't know about this year. Last year. Yeah. Last year, yeah, last year, yeah, a rough year. I don't know about this year. I talked to him a little bit ago. He said he was kind of in his mind. Yeah. Which can happen, you know, golf. Like, you got everybody golf. So like, sometimes you can get in your head and start overthinking and shit and you kind of even the greats can lose it sometimes, you know, because it's what have you done for me lately? It's just you got to repeat, repeat something so many times. I think he's back. I think teams tell punters more than anything. Like, punters will get cut whenever they're done

quicker than anybody. Like kickers, kickers, they will keep around if they make kicks because you don't know if the grass is going to be greener on the other side. Yeah. But in the punting game, it involves so much explosion because every ball has to travel far. Even if it's a short ball, you have to hit it high enough, so you have to gleece explode through it high enough so your gunners can get down there. So it's a very explosive. I think the league and the teams tell punters

before they have to make the decision like, okay, I don't got it anymore. Did you hang time? That was the answer. Hang time. You got to be in the 6.5 range like that used to be. So, but like, yeah, that's the legendary shit right there. You've been the mid-six.

Hey, listen to you, Chris, you know a little bit about it. I paid attention to you motherfuckers, man. Johnny Hecker is my guy, so I used to just marvel. He was like our best player, unfortunately. You know what I mean? Like, people are like, man, I'm going to the Edward Jones and I'm to see the punter. He throws the ball too. You know what I mean?

You guys did have like a fake punt every game. What a dream that would have been. Oh, for you, you would have had a blast, bro. But except for the losing part. He's a stud. He's a total stud and a beautiful human being. But I'm looking at the punter Thursday night who seemed to have it in the back of his mind. like fire drill, like pick up the ball.

I didn't even know you could pick it up and pun it. I'm sure you talked about this on your show. Has that ever happened to you? Would that be like in the forefront of your brain? So is that the greatest football player of all time? I don't know. Yeah, wonderful. Tell me, dude, are we keeping the score?

They lost. All right. Nobody's here, so we got to keep it alive. I don't even remember who won. All I remember is the punt, Pat. Exactly. That's all that matters. I mean, Rams get a massive NFC West win in Seattle,

but all you need to know is that the Aussie bomber, Michael Dixon, Big Dixon, and energy hats now available. He is a good athlete because he played at Ozzie Rules football. Those Ozzie Rules football players grow up, punting the ball back and forth to each other and tackling each other. So that's literally what the sport is. So whenever they get over here, not every Ozzy punter can transition into an NFL-style

punter because you have to hit it a little bit further. It's a little bit different swing than the standard of Aussie swing. But if the Aussie guy can pick up the NFL swing like Michael Dixon has and Jordan Barry has, you've got some great fuck. athletes over the Savroka back in Philadelphia folklore back in the day. He was like 6-6 or 6-7, 260 pounds. He was a legend in Ozdie Rules football and he retired and then he came over the NFL when he was like 40 or something. So Michael Dixon's a great athlete. I knew he could hit it twice behind a line of a scrimmage. I also know immediately upon him punting it in front

of the line of scrimmage, it was illegal. But like any good outlaw, it doesn't fucking matter if they don't call it. And they picked that flag up right off the thing. It was beautiful. Michael Dixon's a stud over there. That was a gorgeous play even from a position player here. Well, even for it. Even from a position player. Usually us D. Lyman aren't paying attention. As you know, I was because of Johnny Hecker.

Had you seen the Miami punter with the tattoos who's like 6-6? He's Australian, the college punter. You seen that guy? Oh, Lou Head. Oh, that guy's fucking huge, man. Yeah, a big guy. I'd be like a little bit concerned at least getting in a fight with him, like a little bit. Look at this.

This is Pat McAfee after a fake punt. Pat McAfee strutton, bro. That's a position player playing punter. No offense to other punters. He keeps going. Yeah, he's strut. Hey, that's the Billy Strut. Yeah, come on, Doug.

Had to do that. Hey, good story about that. Mike Tomlin did that back to me. After we scored a touchdown on that drive, I was walking out to do a to hit the kickoff. And Tomlin was walking down the sideline with Darius Hayward Bay, staring at me and laughing. And I found it very interesting.

They went on to win by 40. So they didn't. You think it was bad's fault, dude. They did not care. Oh, that's incredible. We were both on the Manning cast, Pat. I had to go after you, which sucks because, like, everybody's like, Pat McAfee's on the Manningcast,

like his best thing ever. Then they call me and they're like, hey, you're going next week. And I'm like, well, who do I go after? And they're like, oh, Nick Saven, LeBron James and Matt Stafford, the most popular, you know, quarterback that just escaped Detroit, the greatest basketball player of all time. And Nick Saban. I was so nervous.

You do this shit every day. on live TV, essentially. Did you get nervous going on the Manning cast? Or was it just like smooth sailing? I felt pretty good, man. The guests, I mean, it was an impossible task to be a guest on that show. I mean, you know, with the delay, the timing, you're in three different spots. Watching, and I was very lucky, obviously.

I know a lot of the Mannings, I mean, I've been in a lot of situations with the Mannings. I know them pretty well. and so I was a big fan of what they were going to do. I knew it was going to be a good production. I enjoyed Monday Night banning the first couple weeks. And I realized every time my guest got on, there would be a couple good moments, but ultimately in the end, it was tough.

I mean, it was a tough thing. And to your point, I speak every day with people on like FaceTime's and Zooms, though. I know, like, when you go in, you got to go. Yeah. And then when you're out, you're out, you know, because this is like the modern world now. This is what it is now almost. So it was your setup for failure.

I thought you did great, by the way. Everybody was saying you looked higher than me, but I thought you did great. I wasn't high, actually, because here's the thing, and this is really funny you bring this up. I went on their mock manning cast. So I got to call, like, a month before the season, I was like, Peyton and Eli are doing their show, and they're doing this, like, mock show. So they need bodies. And I'm like, okay, I'm like a camp body, but whatever.

So I go on their fucking their shit. I'm practice squad. But I'm, you know, I respect those guys so much. And I really do. Like, you know, I really respect those guys. So I want to give it my all. Well, the problem was I forgot that I was going on it later, and I hit the bong like five times, you know, just enjoying my off night.

And then I got the alarm that was like, hey, you got to go on the Manning cast. And I log on and it's on FaceTime, Pat. Like, you know, like the way you described it, it's not like, you know, and I see their faces in the game. And I'm like, God damn. So that was the one thing I wasn't going to do and the real thing was get stone. Okay. But you were stone.

I mean, Chris, most of the times you have seen me in my life, there's a good chance. I mean, I guess when I wake up, you know, if it's a long sleep. I got it. Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of with you except when I went on the Manningcast the second time. I got it. That's awesome, though. This is you. Kiki Williams.

Not Ricky Williams, Kiki Williams. That's his new nickname. I didn't know that he was high all the damn time. Hey, Ricky Williams got on my show soon, man. I've never been this pumped to my life. Now, when you came on first time, I was like, oh my God, Chris, Lama, you fucking kidding me. Please, motherfucker. And your interview with Ricky was an A-plus.

He's going to go on that show and it's going to do crazy numbers, bro. He's going to do numbers. Ricky is awesome. Tell him I said hello that. You and him are going to have a lot to talk about. Hey, I trolled Penn State last night. You know, I was bet in Iowa. Some people said mean things about Gus Johnson's mother, who I don't even know, but I'm

sure she's lovely and they were happy valley people which is ironic because they seem all fucking miserable they seem like hardos unfortunately there's an overlap on the vend diagram when it comes to eagles fans and pen state fans but i decided i was going to troll the fuck out of uh pen state fans last night and i was very successful pat where do they rank in the hardo like pantheon of college fan bases well i grew up in pittsburgh obviously and there is not as many as philadelphia eagle penn Staters, but there's a lot of Penn Staters in Pittsburgh as well. And they, they've always run deep. You know, they have their, you know, they have their, their situations of their past.

They definitely have situations in the past. You know, things that had happened. And they're a loyal bunch. I think they're a good cult there. I had a couple run-ins with, I had the Ohio State cult came after me. Their cult. Urban Meyer, I just assume all these big-time colleges, just a cult. Like, I went down to the SEC championship, and I saw,

A guy who's worth hundreds of millions of dollars in his friends barking. Like Georgia Bulldog barking. I was like, all right, these motherfuckers are in, you know? Like I, in a full suit almost. Like, howl howl how? I was like people could not see what he was doing. And he was just a part of the whole crew. So I viewed them all as cults.

And I respect it. You know, like I appreciate it. I think it's part of the college atmosphere. But the Ohio State cult came after me one time because Urban Meyer attacked me in an interview without saying my name. It was after I did the belly flop on game day, the brazos belly flopper whatever on game day, which was not like rehearsed or anything, kind of just done. Hindsight, there could have been a log or something in that muddy-ass river that I potentially decapitate myself on. But that was dangerous, by the way. I don't think a lot of people understand that. That's the thing about rivers.

There's driftwood. You don't know. One spot is not the same the next day. I grew up in a river city. I gave a little eye test. But when I was in there walking around, I was little bit like, oh, I'm a fucking idiot or whatever. But after I did that, Urban Meyer was getting interviewed because he was on big noon kickoff. And he said something about the ratings were going up or whatever. And he was like, yeah, I guess people don't just want to see like idiots jumping off boats or something like that. I was like, that's a shot him. I don't even work for Game Day, motherfucker. I'm not getting paid to be here. Okay. I just asked me to show up. What are we even doing? So I had to defend myself,

obviously. That was not, we can't just let that one. That one doesn't just fly by, obviously, who would I be if I didn't? So I defended myself, just called in to question some of his antics of his past. And one pretty cleverly put together a tweet, I think. I think it was pretty good. And I got killed. I mean, you might as well dump me right in the middle of Urban's chop house at that moment. I mean, I was getting attacked by all of Columbus for like a good month or two.

And then it kind of died off. And then I went to one of the cult's events over at AJ Hawks house. I donated. I think I made right with them. So I'm in good with them. But there are some fan bases that are incredibly passionate that I have nothing but respect for. And it's always nice to get into a little tip. It is, man. It is. If I had a favorite cult, I would say the one cult I wish I could be a part of if it wasn't for Virginia. By the way, I've said this to Macon before. If I didn't go to Virginia, I wish I went to West Virginia. Now, you brought up a Venn diagram earlier. Pat, do you take any offense to my saying that I don't see much overlap in Blue Ridge Mountain

Shenandoah River in the state of West Virginia. The song's about John Denver wrote the song about Virginia. No, yeah, and I saw this going around on the internet. You guys are just fucking idiots. You're crazy. Bro, you're absolutely. We can debate this another time, but I just want to plant my flag here with Macon. An LSU game is probably the most fun you'll ever have.

If you go down to the Sugar Bowl and watch LSU play anybody and spend the weekend in New Orleans, which I'm assuming maybe you've done at this point, Pat, but, like, you feel like part of the family, dude. They really welcome you in. And... Oh, manna, hamanna, hamanna, ha, ma'amana, ha, ma'amah, Bat Rouge. And that's the song.

You nailed it. Yeah, dude. But West Virginia, you guys get John Denver. You have the guy with the musket, and you had Owen Schmidt, who's one of the most legendary human beings of all time. All time, dude. Yeah, all time, bro.

I was just talking to him. I was just talking to him last week. Will you tell him, I said, hello? I'm sure he says hello right back. He's coaching some high school football now. He's back in a coaching game. I ran into one of his friends at a bluegrass festival in West Virginia, a six-foot-seven bouncer with dreads down his back that were 18 years old.

And he goes, I know a guy that you used to play against. And I could have guessed it. It was Owen Schmidt. So Pat McAfee, thank you for answering the call. I mean, an hour's notice. This guy is an absolute soldier. And we appreciate you coming on the show, my ma'am. No problem, man.

When's this coming out? Tomorrow? Tomorrow morning, bright and early. Good morning, everybody. Let me tell you about my life. I was sitting here rather high, watching football, got a text from Chris, and now I have a new friend named Macon this guy. He's trying to steal country roads from West Virginia.

Hey, what a time. If you would like a home, a second or third in the Great Commonwealth of Virginia, you just hit the show notes. Yeah, show notes. They got the link to his little website. My DMs. How about does Zillow just ruin your, because I'll Zillow every day. I'm a Zillow my ass off.

All day, every day. I go somewhere. I'm like, let me see what the most expensive house is. And is at this place. That's fine. The algorithm isn't accurate, though. Zillow your heart's delight and then give me a call. Zest of it.

They are fucking outdated, bro. Please. Please, dude. Hey, when these teams bring in a bunch of kickers for tryout, Is the incumbent like, fuck this? Like, is everybody in there? Like, just hoping everybody misses. Hey, it's a great question, actually, because when Adam Ventrari was having his tough

year, his last couple years, and he was going through an injury or something, where the training room is, there's glass to see the field. And there was like six guys kicking on the field while Ventrary training, right? And I guess the story goes, if Ventrero is like, none of these motherfuckers are going to take my job. And he was, like, supposed to be out or something. he came back. Like there was some legendary story of that. So yeah,

there's always that. I mean, there's only one kicker, one punner on every single team. That's it. So, you know, when they bring in a camp leg

and they say, oh, this is a camp leg? Like, you were a camp buddy. Like, is it? If he gets hot,

yeah, and you get cold, that is no longer a camp leg, that is the team's like. You'll be kicking in Saskatchewan. I can see Adams holder being like laces in. But you know, so bad.

Lace's in. Yeah, hey, guys. A little hot tip from a Hall of Famer, Laces in. Hey Pat, thanks for the time, brother. They would never have me hold. They knew I'd be sabotage enough. See you, Pat. Thank you. Peace. Twitter, we got her shit together, okay?

We got a real handle reflective of the name of the podcast. Guys, we did it. Applawed. And now go follow us at Greenlight. Twitter is at Greenlight. We also have a new YouTube channel name as well. Greenlight Tube. Hope you guys like that. All right, Fax is back in the building. Pat was fun, man. He keeps the energy up, man, doesn't he? How about me calling him an hour ago to come on the show?

He tells me, he didn't tell me this when he accepted it. He's like, I'm stone. I'm like, he did pretty good, Pat. It's good energy, man. To be able to keep it going every day like that is wild to me. Imagine us trying to do that every fucking day. I just think it's crazy, number one, to be live and not fuck up. And then also to do it every single day.

And, you know, like there's days where, fuck, I don't want to do a podcast, dude. And I might even have like a decent guest. I'm just bored with sports or something. He's got to do it every day. So thanks to Pat for coming on. I stepped out into the streets this weekend, Chris. A little outdoor space, a little bar, a little live music today. Pro Renata.

Oh, yeah. That's a good spot. Healthy distance from my fellow human. Hey, listen, man. Cold beers. I had three cold beers. Pilsners. You had three beers?

Pilsner Night in America. Is that what you ordered me the other night? I meant to ask you. That's the worst fucking beer I've ever had. You've lost your goddamn Mott and FACs. No, no, I gave me an IPA. I gave them an IPA. Oh.

Yeah. I asked if they had a Pilsner. Me and Fax were out because we watched the fight, which we'll talk about in a second. That shit has like a bite to it. Yeah, it's called an IPA. That's an IPA. That's gross. That's heavy.

No, IPAs are awesome. No, Fax, you're right. You're right. Best buzz in the world. Best buzz in the world. weed pen and IPA there's not a better buzz on planet earth

and you can't disagree because you've never tried it and you kind of tried it Hey my three Pilsner scene was so lit that we invited the in-laws to get in on the action you know as you do

yeah yeah so they pop over mother-in-law says she caught the pod and I'm like okay I've shown myself to my mother-in-law should be fine she said you you dribbled on yourself Oh shit

You got at the at the brewery Yeah And I was like Uh huh How about next time you went to You dribbled on yourself I was like yeah Well at least you didn't hear me reciting hip hop lyrics

She said nah you did that right before Ha Really great stretch There that we put out Did she smile about it? Yes She's cool man Yeah yeah

So of course Gaining clouts with the inlaws Yeah That's exactly right Gaining clout Hey my son in law Not only sells real estate But he pisses him

at times. How hard did you shake it the next time you went to the bathroom at the brewery to make sure it didn't get on your cackeys? It's the Nike pants that are the issue. Like a curb your enthusiasm scene for you. Macon. The song, Walking in Memphis, can you sing it and change

the Memphis to Charlottesville? Walking in Charlottesville. Didn't somebody do that last thing? Oh yeah, Tyson Fury did it. Walking in Charlottesville. We had just smoked one of those packwoods. That's why it's a little hazy, but we came up here

and obviously didn't see the fight did you oh fuck no so Tyson Fury sung that after he won but grabbed the mic and sung it like he was on American Idol yeah in front of everybody he had a captive audience I really think Tyson Fury just fights people like his whole life

has just been about trying to fight people so that then he can make them listen to him singing and he's pretty good at it man I just think if you're a karaoke guy like that's that's the dream that all those people have to sit there and listen to you and Tyson Fury has accomplished that just by beating people up he's a real good boxer dude yeah he is wowder is a fighter and like legitimately has every ounce of respect i have to give like as a as a sports fan they both had heart oh my

god dude making they were just pummeling each other which i know is like it was a little like there were there were moments where i was kind of like do i feel good about seeing this there go. I really wanted, I really wanted them to flip out of the ring, though. I think like there was times they were leaning on the ring. They were so gas, bro. And they're so big that like it's a visual that you never really see like, because you used to seeing Floyd fights and all these other smaller guys. Yeah. So when you see the big guys do stuff and like the proportion of how they look in the ring is just like, holy shit. But honestly, it was with, with Wilder though, like, I was on at times because I thought if we weren't, if that wasn't such a heavily hyped fight that was

obviously so transcendent as far as like entertainment value. I know a boxing pierce is going to kill me. I was wildly entertained by it. I'm not saying it was the most technical, great fight. I saw people get killed for saying that online. Like this is the best fight I've seen since I was a kid. The fight made me feel a different way than any fight I've seen since, you know, it's been a while. maybe since college since we like packed the fred like an apartment complex with 200 people over the fire code to see

I don't know De La Jolla Mayweather or something Clitchco Yeah just well not even No Clitchco fight ever felt this way Because Clitchco is not the promoter That Tyson Fury is And not even the promoter that the Wilder is

So like as a fan I just felt so into it And I don't think if everybody knew After that fourth round when Fury went down like three times that this was going to be just an insane classic fight. And I think everybody was kind of bought into, we got to keep this thing going to the finish

or until somebody gets knocked out cold. And I don't think if it was such a big fight, they would have let that thing go on because Wilder was looking not just gassed. He was so gassed and delirious that I wasn't sure which one was which, and that's kind of a problem. No, I was just going to say,

the unsung hero is the referee because I can't imagine how tough of a... terrible job. How tough of a job it was for him to officiate that boxing match. There was multiple times that if he had stopped it, he definitely, it wouldn't have been, I don't think, like, you as a fan wanted to see a fight keep going. You would have been maybe upset, but like for the health of either of those guys at times, you're like, holy shit.

Somebody said it, it was like maybe Andre Ward was he, one of the guys that called the fight. He was like, you give something of yourself every time you do one of these fights. Like every time you give a little piece of yourself that you're not going to get back. And that's the, that's the really contradicting thing about enjoying boxing is like nothing. I tweeted last night, peak sports like in this kind of nerd voice. Like, you know, hey, if I never seen sports before, this is the best sports I've ever seen. It is because it's just so real.

It's so real. And then them showing the wives of each fighter in between rounds, like after they've been knocked down and the emotions. And if you're just watching, it was kind of interesting just seeing like Wilder's wife. Wilder's wife. She was like exciting. Yeah, she was exciting. You could tell like she's kind of like crying, like going through all types of emotions. And then and then Fury's wife, the entire fight every time they showed her, she just looked like she, every shot he was.

taken that like she was just in pain from it so that was just a different crazy aspect of of the whole fight also dude it was it was some of the best entertainment but it was also just so brutal and that's the that's the hard thing about boxing but i hope we see more good fights like that after i'd say all that and like it was really tough like these guys opt into what they're doing they're they're making a lot of money like we were talking to this last night i don't know that any amount of money would would make me want to box professionally and go through what like Deontay wilder went through last night but I understand that a lot of these guys like came from situations where you have no choice like that's why like people say like boxing football's

going to die out you know boxing's going to die out like as long as there's people that are hungry for an opportunity like whether it's a scholarship or to go fight in front of millions of people like there's going to be people that want to do this shit and as conflict as I feel as a fan sometimes watching somebody like Deontay Wilder just get pieced for an hour, it's still wildly entertaining. So, hey, Beville Conway Award college edition. The undercard to Fury Wilder. Penn State, Iowa, beautiful.

Kinnick Stadium. Beautiful unity matchup. Yeah, yeah, Penn State. I was beautiful. It was beautiful because I won money. And by the way, I went on a ridiculous heater. I won't read you all the. Appreciate that.

There was like 19 of them. I mean, I went about 19 and 2 this weekend. And Iowa was one of my big swing states. Hey, Iowa, dude, Iowa has got to be the loudest stadium in the big tent. I'm only trolling. I was doing that last night to fuck with Happy Valley people because somebody was saying really mean things about Gus Johnson's family and my mentions because I said it was a great call. Like, we get it.

You guys are mad because your program's taken on the chin rightfully so lately and kind of sucks and you're angry right under the surface. But like, spare me, dude. I'm praising Iowa. I'm not shitting on you. So at that moment, I had like three guys, like there were three false starts in a row. So what happened was basically Iowa was going to get like murked.

Dude, they were down like two touchdowns right off the bat and they can't play from behind. And they probably got overvalued because seven turnovers last week at the turtle shell or whatever the fuck you want to call it. They're down two scores like early. The only way they get back in that game is that quarterback getting hurt. The new guy comes in, three false starts in a row. James Franklin won't go on.

under center dude. I'm like, ah, what are we doing, man? Or do the guard tap the center thing. Or do just any of those things, dude. But it also had to do with the fact that stadium was rocking, man, rocking. It was so loud. You couldn't hear the first whistle. So I'm tweeting about that and I got Penn State fans being like, it's not because it's loud. All right. So then at that point, I decided that Penn State is the new hockey and I trolled them for like two hours. So if you're listening and I trolled you, I'm sorry, but it's not my fault. It was your fault. I don't know what you're going to say to this. I'm a little bit worried about what you're going to say, but I saw two unis that weren't so hot yet they were doing it for me. BYU and Boise in Provo,

beautiful scene. BYU was going with the navies, Navy, Navy, Navy, Navy, looking pretty good. Boise was cool like a decade ago with those, with those kits. They went black, white with the orange and blue. There's a lot of colors. Axin and the black pants. I liked it for some reason. Dude, that's like, that's your strict. strange fetish dude that's your strange uniform fetish is b yu boise state what about the thursday night um seahawk slime green well they look good in that under their lights i think they always look good under their lights everyone who was shitting on it i thought it awesome i like it and that's from somebody who hated playing up there because we always lost uh in prime time but i will say this about b yu and uh and

and and and boise state i hated it and when you texted me that you liked it i was like save that for the pod because I was shocked. I will also say this, when you mix eras and styles like that, it always looks shitty. You know, not only did it clash. And I know,

I know you know this, but it's somehow it worked. But this is the thing. Boise States are like these updated unies, weird color combinations, BYU is just straight out of like the 40s, you know. I love that.

Classic, but don't mix them with Boise State. I didn't like that, man. We're not parking. You're on the water street. garage. I'm in like Market Street. Market Street garage. And BYU has much better options. That lighter blue. Yeah. For instance. I just, I don't know. I don't like it. The Boise State. I don't like it zoomed in. The mountains in Provo helps. It's too whimsical. Get that whimsical shit

out of here. We will be back. Fax and I will be back on Wednesday and me and make will be back Friday and y'all take care. Y'all take care.