Green Light with Chris Long - Patrick Peterson! Pittsburgh Steelers, George Pickens, Joey Porter Jr & Season Goals. NFL PRESZN WK1 Recap & Oppenheimer Review

Episode Date: August 15, 2023

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Drafted a kicker in the third round. Smart. The Niners, idiots. Fucking drafted kicker in the third round. He missed two chip shots in his first preseason game, which goes back to a theory. He's getting it out of the way. I'm working on, which is you never draft a kicker. You don't draft the kicker.

Even if he's Adam Vinitieri, that's pretty much it. You don't draft the kicker because the minute you draft the kicker, it's in his head. So there is a line, though. You got to wait. You can't draft a kicker early unless he doesn't care about anything. Like it's Sebastian Janikowski. Like, if you go to his workout. and he's just in a, there's a pile of like Papp's blue ribbons and he crawls out.

You're like, that's my kicker. So that, Greg Zerlind. What's the Mendoza line for? Greg Zerlind. Okay. The Greenlight podcast welcomes you. Thank you very much for jumping on today. To kick things off, Chris is going to talk about his greatest weekend ever.

He walked in the studio today. We were all like, how was your weekend? And he goes the best. So we dive into that, the meteors, the river, the movies, all of it. we hear from Kyle and Macon, as well. And then we get a review of a little movie called Oppenheimer. I doubt many of you have seen it. If you have, you'll be able to keep up.

If you haven't, be aware there's spoilers. A lot of theories get thrown around and a lot of things over my head, but it is enjoyable. And then after the movie review, Patrick Peterson joins Chris. He's going to talk about becoming a stealer, why he's so excited to play for those fans, the young core they have in Pittsburgh, playing with Joey Porter Jr. after he was a teammate of Joey Porter Sr. in Arizona, and he's going to give quite the prediction on his season. It's going to be awesome to see him do it.

So enjoy that talk with Patrick. And then afterwards, we do a little football roundup of the preseason week one with Kyle, Chris, and Macon. They talk some of the best plays, some of the young names that stood out. We review some quarterback's performances and talk about God's team, no doubt. Y'all please enjoy yourselves. I know my wife doesn't listen more than five minutes into the pod, So I think we can wait to talk about the chick.

That motherfucker's not real, gal. She's not real. Tune in in 13 minutes. All right, anyways. Effortless smile on her. Where's she going with this? I think mental health, et cetera. Oh, I was thinking O.F.

Yeah, that's where she should be going. I think she's above that. Maybe a co-lab. I think she's above that, honestly. I think she was trying to make up public. response to some shit that went super public and she was like let's just shut it down now here's who i really am here's what i look like here's how i present myself let's shut it down respectfully but now she's verified dude what a what an ascension you know like think about in today's world

the way you can stumble upwards it's amazing it's like that redheaded country singer no kyle Kyle, I'm not ready to make jokes about that guy yet, dude. Okay, okay. That guy has a lot of fucking talent. We'll get to that. Okay. That guy's talented, Kyle. He's, you got a great voice.

Chance to be phenomenal. You know, it's like when you're giving a great power in a movie, you just got to be careful how you use it, you know? He's a little Hancockish. Don't go throwing any whales around. Hey, listen. This guy is. Good.

Yeah. Okay, like, and go ahead and say your hello then. Crew Virginia. Hello. Because I find out this guy, Oliver Anthony is from like, you know, south of us away. Too up, too down, though. So hello, crew Virginia.

Also, probably not a good time to mention this in the Oliver Anthony segment, I assume, but I did get my vaccination in crew Virginia. That's awesome. Okay, I drove an hour and a half to get the jab down. I bet it's beautiful. We caravan. Did we not? We did.

We did. Yeah. Now everyone's dead. Remember when we were searching for vaccines? Yeah. It's like, hey, I got a beat on this little mom and pop shop and crew Virginia. They'll jab you.

Listen. And now it's like, listen. Pass. So horse died. Local horse recently died. And I'm thinking horse race is awful, right? We've been covering that on this show. I hate seeing horse.

I didn't find out it's a heart attack. And it kind of makes you think. Yep. The jab. You know, did he go. Was it vaccinated? that he galloped to crew. Y'all ain't right.

It's a joke, man. All you can do in a time of division like this is laugh. Oh, we could mourn the horse. Sure, yeah, mourn the horse. I hate seeing horses die, man. Or like hearing about horses dying at races, even in like New York and Philadelphia, when you see those people being carried.

Oh, I for one love to hear about it. By horses in those chariots in the city in the summertime. That's brutal. That's terrible. It's animal cruelty. Bottom five. Can we stop that? Bottom five horse jobs.

My tour guide in Montana. Marty Grau horse. Oh. Cop. Cop horse and Marty Grau. Warhorse. Warhorse. Got to be down by the...

Yeah. Yeah, not only because of like swords coming at them, but like all the armor you got to carry around and the armor on your rider. So I think you're right. Central Park horse because they got to put blinders on you because there's so much noise going around. That's terrible. They're just depressed as hell. I bet there's all types of horses that...

How about like a mill horse? that just walks in a circle. A fucking mill horse. There's therapy horses for drug addicts. Okay, that's dope. So let me ask you something. Can you put a therapy horse on a plane? No, mill horse.

What does a mill horse do? I would assume it would do what Arnold did in the movie. Remember when he was a child slave turned Conan, the barbarian? Yeah. The horse would have his child job, which is just walk around a circle and just... That's how they made the water... The water happened.

No, no, they put the grains in the middle. And he walks, nodding yes and no. A moment ago, Matt thought Connecticut was an English word. A mill, you know, like a mill. So it's a Native American word. Like a grain mill. Roughly meaning beside the long tidal river.

Does this sound right? Am I on? Connecticut is a native American word. Kyle, I don't even know, Kyle. I don't even know what the fuck a mill does. You're thinking of the movie Dumbo. Where they transport the elephant? No.

Horses making. Top three horse jobs. Top three. Yeah, Lenny Kravitz's horse, one. He has all types of beautiful ladies in his compound. Oh, okay. I was saying, you. Oh, wild horses.

Wild horses, number one. Devons. Not a job, though. I saw it crazy. Devon's white horse. No. The one he rides around the stadium. Who's that?

Devin White. Oh, Devin White's horse. Yeah, yeah. He rides around the stadium. Dude, I'm telling you, those horses down in the deep south, man. I got a buddy Eugene Sims, who I used to play with. with one of my best buddies, Kyle, Kyle knows him. Love that guy.

Motherfucker sends me a video. They're riding a horse at 55 miles an hour, I don't know, presumably, because they're riding it next to traffic on the highway. That's how they ride horses down in Mississippi. Like, they're in the right lane. It's like 50 different countries in America. You have to pass the steed down in Mississippi.

We're doing too much horse talk. Okay. Quit horsing around. All right. Woo! Welcome back, Kyle. Hello. Where you been?

I was in the western United States. We went to Malibu for a bit. Then Montana for Howie's wedding, which was awesome. Howie and Erica's wedding. And then we went to Rhode Island for another wedding. I'd never been to Newport. Up in Kohawk. It's a lot like family guy, but just like real life.

You know what I mean? Yeah. It was eerily family guy. Yeah. But really nice. too they have fucking huge mansions Vanderbilt family I gotta find out what they did because a lot of stuff

railroads they brought all that stuff to Newport Benzo diazepine meltdown on a plane parlayed into an only fans like that's how people get rich now can we talk about her again? I really like I thought the apology if I'm looking at it

without any cynicism what a great apology except for the orientation of the phone I think. Really? Because when you look at it on any sort of news source, it's got the blurred panels on the sides.

Hey, some real sleuths on the internet, some real grade A horn dogs on the internet because... You feel me here? Yeah. Like she needed to turn it or something. They called this. People were like, yo, that lady's hot. Like, in the aisle there.

I was like, not her best moment. I wasn't even thinking about it. First time we saw that, it was like, Lady goes crazy on a plane, which we see all too often. Now the internet is simping for this lady. I mean. So, well,

Way to go, Tiffany, for setting the record straight. I hope she goes on somebody's pod. Yeah. Seriously. She's a cool age, too. 38. 38. 38.

38. 38. Great age. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Guys, Matt, Tiffany. How was y'all's weekend? A lot of driving. Good weekend.

Okay. I got the sads a little bit. Oh, really? Yeah. What's up? What are you about to make up? What's up with that? I'm not going to make any.

anything up. No, so it was last night and I was thinking about baby three who's a girl. We're going to have girl boy girl yeah. And I always say to the girl, I say, hey, you're my girl. Who's my girl? You're my girl, et cetera. But now there's going to be another girl. That's tough. And then she was running around the room last night singing usually, you know, hey, it's time for bed. But I was like, you know what? Nah, I'm going to soak this one in. And we were singing bingo and Wheels on the bus. Oh, and I was just lying on her, on her floor, and she was running around singing. And I got the sads a little bit.

I used to cry. I used to cry at bedtime. How will three change the dynamic, you know? But there was water coming out of my eyes a couple of those nights. Yeah. You know, I'm going to welcome number three. You feel me? That's going to be a good thing.

I'm excited. But, you know, things will. We talked about this. We talked about like fatherhood and stuff on the pot over the summer. I don't know if you were on. But like right before kid number two or three comes, there is that moment of like, fuck, dude, I feel bad for kid number one and kid number two.

Yeah. Especially number one, because you were like, it was just us. Right. You know? And then you could do things later when there's enough kids that you know, like we got to divide and conquer. Like it took Wayland to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Thursday,

just me and him. It was awesome. I had an all American weekend. I mean, I had like the American dream. If he doesn't, if he says, river if he doesn't say river i'll give you five of these years um i hit one of local waterways to to to wrap the weekend 500 Chris no i said waterways yeah yeah yeah you know it's in it for me anyways so we had Oppenheimer yeah okay then saturday night um just accidentally saw a meteor shower

like took the kids camping had no idea it was with bad back backy i had one of those chairs that reclines like all the way like parallel to the ground. Yeah. To the point where people at the league games are like, it's a little much. But it was perfect for stargazing. And, and I was reclined all the way back,

just kind of looking up in the sky, had a little iPad out there for the kids. We had a fire going. Got a solo stove. You know those solo stoves? Yeah, a little gas stove. Very easy. No, not gas.

What is it? Electric? It's a metal portable stove. It's lightweight. And you just throw the wood in there. The flames go up instead of about. Yeah, that's perfect. It's great. You don't want this stove in all seriousness like during the winter because it's not going to disperse heat.

Now, you can get an attachment for that, but, you know, I'd just dig a hole. Yeah. Okay. So anyways, I got the iPad. We're watching planet Earth at night. The kids are watching like predations. It's quiet. It's dark.

And I'm looking up in the sky and I swear to you, I saw the fucking star from the, um, the more that you know. Yes. Wow. Yeah. Uh, I mean, four seconds. dude, like wide tail, kind of greenish. It's the Perseid meteor shower. It happens once a year.

Okay, and where we were, there was not a cloud in the sky. So Kev sitting there, I was like, bro, we saw the same shooting star, and he was like, oh, yeah. The guys in the group chat were saying there's a star thing tonight. And, of course, I googled, and we were in the middle of a giant meteor shower. So I had that Saturday night. A once annual Perseid. Yeah, but think about what are the odds of the kids are like, I want to go camping.

I'm like, yeah, there's no shot that happens realistically. Out in the back field. You were destined to see that more you know. And then I've been hyping up this new stretch of river like saying, hey, we got to hit this. We got to hit this. We keep missing it. Eventually we get like six, seven guys together yesterday, one of which is not making. I'm sorry for not inviting you.

I really am. I showed up. You're forgiven. It's an awesome stretch. It's if you want to look on the map, which you probably don't. It's hardware to New Canton. If you're a Virginia resident, it's a great little stretch of river. The back half is a little bit tough because it kind of gets a little soupy.

And I had one of my buddies there fresh off of a hernia surgery, who will go unnamed. Not fresh off. He's like three weeks off. So he can't paddle. Yeah. So he's like, you mind if I bring a tube and, you know, can I hook on to your kayak? And I'm thinking, yeah, well, the river's going to move. Well, the river stopped moving.

and I'm dragging a 200-pound man, you know, full to the gills of so. It did look easy. We didn't look easy. This motherfucker, you know, he had an umbrella. He had an umbrella. He had a personal umbrella. That's such a him move. This is how you would too, honestly.

He's turning into his dad. Yeah, yeah. But, no, it's already happened. Yeah. But honestly, this is exactly how you're going to want a tube. Uh-huh. Is, you know, just show up with the tube, you know, hook on to my kayak. When we talked about died,

doing what you love like this was not that like I was having a lot of fun but this was not a fun part of the trip we we stopped at a at a beach it was an early stop before even before the first kind of rapids and we all there was a group of three was me jp and date we pulled up and we were like Chris isn't gonna be stoked when he comes up and then Chris was immediately like someone get a knife cut the rope get out of here I told him get ahead start and float down the river we'll catch you he takes off 30 minutes later he's 200 yards down the river just playing in the water just splash so he's a child

you know one time we go camping this fucking guy locks his keys we're two hours from the highway guy locks locks one of my other buddies keys in the car and all he says is man that's a bummer you know so he's just that he's that kind of guy

all time all time move also and make him you just fart yeah okay Is that a bussy? How did we feel about the movie Oppenheimer? I haven't seen the film. It's about some warfare, yeah? It is about warfare.

It's about, well, it's about, it's about ending warfare, like the way they couched it, which is not completely true, I don't think. I don't think they knew for certain that the war was going to end if they dropped that bomb. You called it the device. Oh, yeah, you couldn't call it. That was great. You couldn't call it a bomb in class. Oppenheimer was like, nope, device.

So where does this exactly go on the bomb? He's like, ah. So honestly, here was my, the way I felt about this movie, they should have wheeled it in on a fucking, on the thing they wield the TV in. Yeah. This is a history movie. I mean, they, I mean, the whole back, the bravest thing they did in this movie was drop the bomb that I was like, let me just see the bomb. Let me see the bomb. And then another hour of hearings with Robert Downey Jr. awesome in that role.

Who stole the show? The guy from Dumb and Dumber, the cop. Yeah. From Dumb and Dumb and Dumber's in it. You know the guy that drinks Harry's pee? Yeah, dude. That's him. Wow.

Yeah. The cop. He looks great. He looks great. Grandpa's cough medicine. Mm-hmm. Doing a little boozing, are you? And that's not the guy who eats the hot sauce.

No, that's the guy that turns on Oppenheimer. No, the guy that eats the hot sauce. You're talking about the guy that takes the rat poison? Is that what it is? Pills are good. These guys know I got gas. These guys are good. Yeah.

Yeah. Gas man. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It was that guy. He was, he was in Oppenheimer. Guys got range.

Not gas man. Not gas man. Guys got range. But yeah, no, I mean, like, honestly, movies three hours long.

It's Nolan's longest movie by, what, 20 minutes or something over an interstellar. And while it's really good, it does move slow. Like, I don't know if you thought it moved fast. It moved fast in that the dialogue was rapid fire.

There was no downtime in this movie. Like, you want to talk about taking a piss. I should have brought a piss bag in there. It was a live. explosive the entire movie. It was like you cannot get your eyes off of it. You couldn't get your eyes off of it. My favorite scene was when um, there were, Klaus or Klaus, Strauss, though, don't say Strauss. He was like, I wonder what he's saying to Einstein. He must have been talking about me

in some way. And when you find out what he was saying to him, he's essentially like, we've already, Sorry, well, I mean... It had nothing to do with Robert Downey Jr's character. Yeah, and yes. And that hit home to me that entire battle between Strauss and Oppenheimer was all ego. It was just two massive egos. I don't know that Oppenheimer had a big ego as much as he just seemed to not play by the rules. Like, he just didn't think they were rules.

Like, you know, he said... Now, he didn't exist within our own, like, normal world. It was like the cost of his genius was such. that he's a huge asshole. Like, even when he told his gal that he got another woman, you know, it was so,

like cut and dry, like you said. No mince words. He didn't play outside or something as a kid, but he was really smart. And he said, like, you know,

brilliance gets me away with a lot. Like, there was a line in the movie where it was like, if you're brilliant, get away with a lot. By the way, Strauss was mad at him

because he made fun of him about isotopes. And they changed. Strauss, like, goes like a 40-year warpath over ice-toes. Yeah, much will have an omelet or what do you say? I don't know. He made fun of him in front of other scientists and that's really, like you said.

It's a big no-no. It made him feel emasculated. Yeah, dude. That's like in the locker room. Like, like, meat made fun of. Here's the list of bad Oppenheimer stuff, okay? One, poisoned his professor. Okay, so like pretty early you had a good idea that this guy was going to be a shit bag.

Two, I don't know, Adam Bomb. Important. Depending on how you feel about the atom bomb. I think about this though, like the scenes that are in black and white, my interpretation is that those are more fact and the scenes that are in color. Those are those are subjective. Those are his point of view. And this was something that was I read about this. It was, you know, Nolan did something different, which I didn't think, like watching it that it was different. But film people are like, hey, you know, it's from Oppenheimer's point of view.

And then it was black and white. It was, it was objective. But guy was fucking communist left. and right right he was cheating on his wife he's mouse a dong in every sense of the word and then and then um he he he oh what else did he do um oh yeah he was fucking all the scientist wags so he was just mowing down the scientist wags at los alamos yeah spoilers and then um and then terrible parent here's the thing both of them terrible parents i mean this guy dropped his kids off with a communist uh and then when he finally goes to los alamos he takes his kid and his

wife to a house with no kitchen in a community that Matt Damon was like hurry up build him a town like he thought of everything they had a fucking beer hall in there but he didn't have a kitchen for his wife and his kid and he drove him there in a convertible in the front seat with no child safety measures like he's a bad dad and and and that mrs. Oppenheimer was a real hag okay like by 19 i know this the word we don't use anymore but back in the day they would have called her a Emily Blunt? Emily Blunt was great, but Emily Blunt was an alcoholic and objectively not a great mom. Like he came home one time.

The baby's crying in the back and she's just drinking in the room, right? And he's like, shouldn't you go to him? I've been going to him all fucking day. And of course I see my wife's head like this. And she's like, I can't wait to say that to you. And I'm like, let's not compare eras here, Meg, okay? Like, I don't know if you could have hung in 1940. There's no snoo.

there's no monitor. She's just in there in the dark. Like it's evening and the lights get low. The kitchen thing, he was like, we'll fix that. Yeah. Like immediate response, we'll fix that. But, I mean, he was just a bad guy. He was a bad guy in a lot of ways.

But I also thought that like when they were trying to rake him over the coals at the end of the movie, it became apparent if you are to believe this movie is historically accurate, that he never once turned his back on the United States. So I just think it was Nolan's first R-rated movie. Really? Yeah. Nobody knew what the role was before they signed on. So, like, people were just like, yeah, I'll do a movie with you.

Sure, it's about Oppenheimer. Don't need to know anymore. You know, I thought it was interesting to hear. That's like middle school play style. Yeah. You're in the play. Oh, I was Grace and Annie. Okay.

No, I was. I was the tree. Oh, yeah? Yeah, which is kind of like a fuck you. You know, like kid can't act, make him the tree. Yeah, Grace was more like, we know you're the talent. Yeah, exactly, dude. But Robert Patterson actually gave Nolan an Oppenheimer book at the end of Tenet.

And supposedly that's what kind of set him down the, yeah. Wow. Yeah, so the main thing about the movie was this. And this was how they really put a bow on it with the whole metal ceremony at the end. In this country and in the world in general, making fart it again. Speaking of a tonic. Let the record state.

No, Kyle said I needed to go this place. So you're useful, you're unuseful, you're useful again. And that was the whole thing. It was like his expertise was useful. And then it was not useful anymore when he didn't want to tell the line 100%. He didn't want to do the H-bomb. Even though people are like, it's not that he thought the H-bomb was wrong. He thought it was like unrealistic at the time.

And he was like, we need to get back to working on. other weapons. And then at the end of the movie, when just like with so many other things in this country, like the civil rights movement and shit like that, and I'm not likening the civil rights movement to fucking, I'm not saying like if you were at Selma, you did an atom bomb. But, you know, like eventually they're like, hey, we fucked up, pat on our own back for admitting that we fucked up 50 years ago. And that was kind of the way the movie ended.

And, you know, like, I forget it was Einstein or somebody was like, hey, this is, the way it goes. They're going to act like, you know, it's for you, but it's really for them. And you just got to smile and nod. And, uh, and, you know, like you got to deal with the consequences of your, your creation. And the way they kept going back to that conversation and finally revealed what it means. Yeah. It was said shows that it's like the message of the movie. And I don't want to spoil it. But that last exchange that they have where he asked this question is I think really profound. Drip King goes to Einstein. Because that's how actual smart people the safe smart people like safe smart people they dress like Einstein you know like j

crew sweatshirt uh you know like uh what's it called without the hood uh crew neck yeah your crew neck just a messy crew neck that he's been when they were describing pulling around while he's doing the theory of relativity and then he just he looks all disheveled but then there's the oppenheimer genius who's like got his all black conier west outfit walking in And it's, did he put eye shadow on for that scene? That was a really powerful scene. Yeah, eye liner. Some type of makeup.

Yeah. So, so there's that kind of smart guy. And if you see smart people dress like that, run. You know? The bomb is going to. No, just something. They're going to do something bad. Like they're, you know, um, he looks like every bond villain.

He looks like every whatever. Exactly. Great. I would put it at like an eight and a half. Yeah. But hold on a second. Let's, when the, when they were describing the bomb going. off. They said it could either just do its thing or it could just continue doing its thing.

Oh yeah, yeah. They were concerned it would ignite the atmosphere. There was a minute like a minuscule chance that when they they dropped this bomb and I don't know if it's like, you know, less than 0.000 or or if it was 1% in their minds, but they were worried that it was going to end. What do you say not zero? What was a non zero zero. That was so great. They kept repeating it. Non-zero. My question to you would be, and I thought the scene with the bomb was perfect. Unbelievable.

I hope you were in IMAX so you could feel the vibrations. No, I'm just deaf. I was in Poulson, Montana. I'm just deaf now, dude. Yeah, you were at the Pulsome. I went with Mom and Dad. I know, I heard. Mom, an hour and a half in goes,

oh my God, that's Robert Downey Jr. Dude, it took me three hours to realize it was Robert Downing Jr. I was like, hey, shut up. Yeah. Dad was like, I think Kyle took some stuff before that movie. What? Yeah, he told me. Well, maybe I...

He was like, he was like, I looked over at him in the candy line. He just looked like he wanted to get out of there. You know, as you know, going anywhere with dad at times can be uncomfortable. And when you're in a tight little movie theater, it's like, oh my God, let's just get in. Yeah, get in the theater. Get me in my seat. Yep, the seven foot tall guy with the flat top. Yeah.

It was just like, you just feel everybody's eyes. No, but the bomb scene was awesome because the bomb goes off and it's quiet for like spoiler. It's quiet for like seven, no, like 20 seconds. And how far away that? A couple miles away from the- I think because they're moving in slow motion. I'm looking at the explosion through my glass. So I thought what was really cool about it was, you know, the people prepping for this thing.

First off, they were all nervous. I think they were mostly nervous that it was going to go off. but like once you've created something like that it's already emotion like in today's world when you when you invent something that's useful again if it's useful it's going to be used and so like you know from a moral standpoint the minute you thought of that the minute you dreamed it if you dream it you can achieve it like the bomb had already gone off and that's with any invention now because like when andy reed designs a spinning huddle and then play one it's like free humphrey is a quarterback yeah and now you're going to see it left and right yeah uh and a lot of people are going to get hurt not

nearly 200,000, but like a lot of people are going to get hurt by that formation. So I like robotics. Oh yeah. Like like it's it's it's. You can't like put it back in the bottle and close it. You can't put it back in the bottle and close it. But my question to you guys would be because there was a lot of huddling around and there was some like, you know, some people were laying down. Some people were were huddled behind a car. Some people actually got in the car because the windshield would save them. And some guys were just like, fuck it, let it rip. I want to put suntan lotion on like the one guy he was like take this and you know just put this on your

face well I would just be sitting out there I'd probably have a cigar or something like a cigar sunglasses big thick sunglasses circular outside though I would have been in the car I'm a pussy about that about explosion

dude we're we're less than 10 miles from a nuclear explosion yeah and by the way in real life they said 280 miles away you could see that that light like they you know like the people said like it did there weren't any there wasn't any damage uh people in the towns around los alamos got their windows blown out and shit and it's interesting reading about hiroshima and nagasaki which by the way i don't think that's true that the one guy that was on the

cabinet or whatever that decided he had a summer home there this is this is but it's believable though it's so believable it's just like black and white or color that's a rich man it was color it was color that part was in color but it was like the power of the power brokers in the world, if you really watch them go through their process of how they decide on things that are going to affect millions of people, like it's so nonchalant. And they were just going down a list with pen and paper crossing off cities. Like, you know, you could be sitting in Kyoto and you have no idea you were this close to getting blown up. But the guy allegedly in the cabinet is like Kyoto is a culturally significant city to Japan. And also my wife and I honeymoon there. verbatim. But I believe it. I know that wasn't necessarily true, but I believe. It could have been true, though.

I don't know. And the one scene with Harry Truman was awesome. Harry Truman is like talking to a monkey. Harry Truman's been dead for years. And you know who played Harry Truman? Oh. Gary Oldman. Gary Oldman.

That was another. I had no idea. When I saw Gary Oldman as Harry Truman, I was kind of like together, Christopher Nolan. No, Nolan was just like, I'm inviting all my friends to this party. They all have to do something. Like, fuck it, we'll make you Truman.

I can't even think of what character I couldn't unsee when I was looking at Gary Oldman as Truman. But the bottom line is Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I educated myself on this thing by way of a Google, was like Nagasaki kind of got spared because of topography. Like, there's a valley around it. So like not as many people died. But Hiroshima, their record keeping was really bad. So like citizenship wasn't even like a thing. Like, you know, birth, deaths.

They didn't put it to public record. And also they had like a 20 to 30% migrant worker population. So who knows how many people actually died in that bombing? But they estimate like over $100,000 for sure, right? Yeah. Yeah, something like $200,000 combined when you include cancer dust. Yeah. It's bad.

It's bad. But a great movie. So anyways, that was the perfect weekend. That was an All-American weekend right there. And I didn't mean to say All-American weekend. weekend and do the A bomb. He was so skinny. Yeah, it could have been,

it could have been teenage meat, Ninja Turtles, anything, really. It was a great weekend. Cowboy. How did his communist girlfriend die? I believe it was by suicide. No, because there's a brief, but she got killed.

Black glove right behind her. Was it Matt Damon? It suggested that it's the U.S. Gov by the way, Matt Damon. He was tits. I was never a fan of the Martian. Okay, I thought Matt Damon's character,

he was like, he was out for a walk in the park. Like, it was too casual. You weren't eating his space potatoes. That character should have been Matt Damon's character in The Martian. The movie would have worked a lot better. He was great. I thought Matt Damon was terrific.

What do we do with this guy? We'll just kill him. He's funny, dude. I'm just kidding. He's great at being an asshole. Yeah. Matt Damon was great. The layup line today, this is for, what's her name?

Tiffany Gomez. Tiffany Gomez. Northeast Texas woman by Willie Allen Ram, Z. Send that one out to our girl. I got to listen to that on the way home. It's a good one. It's a good one. We did our hello crew, Virginia.

Did you see the giant Texas stadium that was built for the high school. Did you saw this? I'm sure. You're a real estate guy. Some Texas high school stadium near where Mahomes is from. They just opened like a D. D1 college fucking. Did they really?

You know, these Texas programs. We talked about coaching in Texas. If we want the quick bucks, go coach some high school football in Texas. No question. No question. You're like a- You could recruit. You're like a king down there.

63 mill right here? Yeah, buddy. And I think it's the trickle-down economics of Patrick Mahomes dominating. Yeah. People are like, we just need better players. No, I think I think if you gave me a stadium like that, I'd be Bud Kilmer. Nope. I'd be shooting my players up, hiding transcripts.

the whole thing dude i would be totally into the role if you gave me that stadium you'd have to feel like a king and you would abuse that power it's outside of i don't even know outside of tyler texas looks better than the uh new nashville stadium strange big turntable is what they're calling it it looks like a fucking record player and uh another stadium without natural grass another one bites of dust. If that stadium was a record player, what records playing? The queen one. Oh no, I think it's like

Lady A. Another one buys the dust. Sugar land. Country. It's like Nashville. Okay, so ask me the question again? You only get one shot. Do not miss your chance to blow, Kyle. I missed it. Okay. Oh, Mike, I got a quick story for you.

Yep. What would happen to the United States if this happened? What would happen to the United States? What would happen to you in the United States if this happened. Okay. Nice me. Yeah. Oh, I just didn't hear.

I didn't hear him. So there's a real estate agent in Canada. So he's showing a house. Sellers on home. He's a smart move. Right. He's on the right track. And then what if the sellers were home?

That'd be really awkward. I'd probably be in a different line of work. So anyways, this guy's thirsty, naturally, because it's a hire some job. You know, I'm taking. It is. Yeah.

You got to sweat for that 3% or whatever it is. So anyways, he opens the fridge, right? Yeah. And there's a gallon of milk in there. So he just starts chugging milk out of the fucking. And he gets caught on a camera. Okay.

Wow. So they have like a baby camera, one of these, you know, big brother situations. At the end of the process, they sell the home. They say, is there anything you want to tell us about? This guy says, Oh, he's a listing agent. Okay.

Yeah. Do you mean the milk? So he admits it. They find him $20,000. Find him? Yes. What do you mean find him? That's the way Canada does it.

Okay. Do you mean the milk? He has to know that they know. What would happen in the United States if I call you eating, you know, a casserole out of my fridge? I have 10x done worse than that to you. Yeah. Okay.

What have you done? What have you done? You know the notebook situation. That's true. Like, can you imagine that headline? And so I guess I was at the mercy of my client and he let me off the hook. I've never heard of an agent being fined. What do you mean fine?

Justin Trudeau, man. Right. Was it a... I think the BC like real estate commission, whatever in British Columbia, find him $20,000. Okay. All right. I think it was a rich man. worth of Quebec.

Okay. Yeah, these days we have to disclose if there's a recording device in the property or not. I want to say this. We like, I like Oliver Anthony's music. I think he's going to be amazing. I just, you know, like I'm all, I'm all, my political, um, reserve tank is all, it's all used up. And you know, when, when the first concert, I get, you know, footage of it and they're doing

the Pledge of Allegiance at the beginning. I'm like gotta buckle up. Now that I think about it, it's akin to the situation of all the football fans that were bitching about politics being put into football. Yep, we'll take it in the music. It's funny, though. Yeah, it is funny.

I hate to backtrack, but my man in Canada, he was representing the buyer, so he had no relationship with the seller. Okay. That's a different situation. That's less cool. So what happened? I thought you were going to say it was like titty milk or something.

I thought it was like colossum. Yeah. You're going to say there's some nasty mail. Somebody probably files a complaint with the real estate board, and yeah, there's a hearing. I ever told you a story about my friend that had a chocolate bar in his house, and he went to a basketball game. His wife was hungry, see? And so she took a big bite at the chocolate bar, and she was like, hmm, this is good. I'll take the whole thing.

And come to find out it was a psilocybin chocolate bar. The in-laws were in town. Guess what my friend did didn't come home for three. days. Just left her to deal with the... I was with him. So her parents were in town? I was with him.

I was with him. Her parents. And he was like, what you're going to... I was like, what you're going to do? And he was like, I'm not going home. No. I was like, how long? He's like, a couple days.

You know, just I'll be out on the lamb for a little bit. That's great. While she gets over this trip, of course, told her it was just an edible. Um, but yeah, anyways. All right, here's Pat, Patrick Peterson. Yikes. Okay. Yeah.

I got to be careful with that. Um, Kyle, your shorts are riding way up. It's called a wedge. Oh, wow. I see the whole situation down there. Yeah. Not too bad, huh? Depends on which situation.

Come on. All right. So, uh, I think you're in a heavy set right now. You're in a 13, you're in 13. I got a lot of full backs on. I can't really see the QB back there. Oh, it's a tight huddle. I can't tell.

quite with the personality. Are you doing an Andy Reid thing here? Anyways, Patrick Peterson. Club dub, more like club rub over here. See what I do when you say something is kind of funny? I laugh. I'm working on it too.

Yeah. So anyways, Patrick Peterson. No, I love you, man. Hey, I love you, man. Patrick Peterson. You know who I love Patrick Peterson, man. Yeah. Guys, awesome.

Like, it snuck up on me. guy went to eight pro bowls in a row. I mean, you know, like, I know he's great. I'm not saying like the, you know, the pro bowl is the end all be all, but that guy eight years in a fucking row, dude. That just means like he finished healthy and elite. And elite. Eight years, man.

That's a long fucking time. At the loneliest position in football. And in a division where we've had some pretty good teams, man. Like the NFC West was tough for a while. And, you know, man corner lasting as long as he has. He didn't miss a game for 11 years. And, you know, to sit down and talk with him over Zoom or whatever. And we've, we've chatted over the years playing against each other.

But just a great guy, a guy you'd want to play with, a great vet to those young guys in Pittsburgh. And he's got his own podcast. So he's one of us, you know, all things covered podcasts. The one thing I did not cover with him, we got talking about Darnell Docket. And I just thought I bring this up because you guys are the audience for this, not in. him. He was talking about vets in Arizona that like brought him along and were you, were you with me one of the summers when we went out and went out to Vegas and party with Doc and those guys. Yes. Yeah. So was that the same day they carried me out of that place?

You want me to tell you how I met Darnel Doc at that day? Was it me getting a shot poured in my mouth? Yeah. I think it was all of us. Darnel was just like the largest human I'd ever seen in my life. He's running around with a bottle of patrol just pouring it in people's Fraving people. So anyways, Darnell Docket. Great guy. He's a fucking love.

A lot nicer than he looks on the field. Boy on the field, he does not look nice. Kind of has the- scariest. scariest. Scariest high school highlight film ever. Really?

Darnel Dockett. A man playing high school football. Bro. Darnel Dockett, high school football highlight. Grown man. He was great, wasn't he?

I mean, Nolan. His YouTube high school highlights are titled the most intimidating high school football highlights. Yeah. Yeah. He looks like a character from NFL Blitz. Remember the characters were a little bit

click and drag, widened? Yeah. And they were just like... Click and drag widen. Like muscles. Uh-huh. That was all him. But anyways, the guy liked LPs. He was into... Liquid petroleum. No. No. Think about it. I know where you're going with this. He had a thing that he used to talk about. It's not like I'm airing him out. I mean, you can Google Darnel Docket.

Well, LPs are hot now. I don't use the word midget. You see them on liquid propane. LPs are hot right now. They're marketed as like, you know, only fans models. now. You see it all over Twitter or X. What corner of only fans are you serving? You see people quote tweet the craziest shit on X. We all

do, yeah. And people react to it and then there's some things I can't react to like OnlyFans LP. Pull up, pull up one of the headlines because they're hilarious. It was like you know, we're getting ready to talk about Patrick Peterson, but I thought this was a really important thing to bring up.

Darnel Docket looking to wife up a midget. Tweeter about knowing where drug lord el chapo is and wanting to marry a midget. Yep, yep, yep. So my man's got an interesting... That's locker room talk. No, it's not locker room talk because he took it out of the locker room. So anyways, uh...

Hold on. Look at the one that he had... See? Look at the one that he had... I'll always remember this because... Because he actually posted an LP. He was like, this is my type right here. Oh!

Look at this. Three foot seven beast. How can you not love this? Three foot seven beast and she can eat off the kids menu. Oh, you just scroll? That was the shortest scroll ever to get the full body. It was a two pixel scroll. So that was great.

Okay. You can fit the actual picture in the Twitter profile picture. She's using a banana peel as pants. Oh, wow. God, her pants are yellow for people at home. Okay. Okay. And that was a little segment we call.

Okay, so anyways, Patrick Peterson is awesome, dude. And you're going to love this interview. I hope he comes back. Stick around after Patrick Peterson for some preseason football talk because that's what we got to work with, fellas. This podcast is brought to you by Cash App. The easy way to send, spend, save, and keep your money safe. It's great because no matter how hard life gets, Cash App keeps my money safe.

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million-time pro bowler, just class personified on and off the field. Love watching Patrick Peterson play, and now he's joining the Greenlight podcast. Pat, how you doing, man? I'm doing great, Kristen. Also, thank you for inviting me on the Greenlight podcast, man. It's an honor. Podcast or to podcaster, bro.

How's all things covered? Like, how's doing that during the season and all that? I was always afraid to do something like that. Man, you know, as always, it depends on how the week is. You know, but at the same time, I enjoy. I love putting out great content. I love, you know, hearing the viewers and the listeners. comments. I love some of the questions they even asked us. So it's a joyful ride to be

honest with. Did you get an answer on that Pickens to Picket connection question you guys solicited to the fans for? Some of those answers were a little subpar. Yeah, I know. I think so. I can't remember which one we end up going with, but I think it's going to come out tomorrow when we do our podcast. So okay, cool. So people got to listen up. That'll be out today, your today, our tomorrow. So check that out today. green light and all things covered man but um yeah love the show love that i was just always nervous you said it depends week to week like some weeks you give up a touchdown maybe you slip right like you don't play great uh for me it was like man if i don't show up on the stats sheet and i got

to go in on on monday night and and do a show whether it's a local radio show or a podcast i was nervous about that were there games in minnesota because i guess you started in minnesota where you were like, man, I don't want to be on the fucking mic this week. You know, yeah, there has been games, like the Dallas Cowboy game. You know, I got punched in the mouth. It was an embarrassing loss at home. But, you know, what I come to realizing this, I think this is why I started to enjoy it even more. Because when I'm done, you know, this is more than likely I want this to be my job.

You know, so it gives me an opportunity to talk about other guys instead of, versus, you talking about myself all the time. So it gives me a little bit more insight on other players, things they like to do, you know, how they're going to rebound from this game. So it's just getting me ready for the next chapter in my life. So say, for instance, I was with Kirk. I was with Kirk. He had a bad game. And once I retired, Kirk is still playing. He's a quarterback. I understand how he rebounds from bad games. I can relate to some of the things he's probably trying to change in his resume to not have the performance he had last year. So I feel like having a little bit of insight on other players will help me, you know,

later in my career as an analyst. Yeah, dude. I was watching the quarterback thing on Netflix, and I guess that begs the question, how does Kirk rebound from a bad game? Because he seems cool. He seems like a guy takes it hard, though, when he makes a mistake. Like he really puts a lot on his shoulders. Yeah, he does.

He does. And Kurt wants to be a champion as every NFL, you know, quarterback desire to be. That's what they dreamed of doing, leading their team to a championship. Kurt does a great job of doing that, leading by an example day in and day out, have huge faith in Jesus Christ. So, you know, he's walking, obviously, the right way in life. And he handled his life the right, you know, far as his day-to-day being a dad, you know, being a husband, being a great teammate, being a leader in the locker room, treating everyone with the utmost respect. You know, it's very rare that you're not very rare.

Most quarterbacks are like that, but I had the privilege to be around a couple good ones and Kurt Cousin and also Carson Palmer. So take me inside the Vikings playing when you guys were putting the chains on Kirk. Because like whose chains were they? Were they like Big Z's chains? Were there, is it a little bit of you? Like, what was going on with that? Chris, man, I don't think if anyone came to the plane with that many chains on and they owned all of those,

I would be so upset because it just wasted so much money and that they cannot even get back. But that was a collective of everybody's change. We just wanted to, it got to a point to where we wanted to see how many of change. change can someone get on their neck? Yeah, I think it was like five or six. And especially for a guy that usually wear short-sleeved button downs from yellow bean every day. Exactly. You always have the dad outfit on.

So we always call him all. He dressed just like a mannequin dad. So we broke him out of his shell a little bit when he had the opportunity to put those chains on a couple of times. That was a fun run, man. I want to ask you about one game because it was one of the best NFL games I, ever seen. I mean, I was in Vegas for this game watching on the big screen. It was you guys in Buffalo. And I was wondering for you and you played great in that game, had two picks sealed the

deal, a big road win. You know how those are. They're the best. Sometimes it's winning on the road is the most fun thing in the NFL. I feel like sometimes. Yeah, the plane ride. Yeah, the plane ride. The just the, the, the sound, when you make that pick, it's dead silent. All you can hear is your guys, man, our sideline, you know? That's my favorite thing was winning in the, on the road. And I wonder for you where that ranks and all your football wins in your career. Because I thought that was one of the best games I've seen in a long time. Man, Chris, that's up there, man. I'm not even going to lie to you. You know, one of my all-time favorite game is probably when I had an opportunity to tie the NFL record against the Rams,

my rookie year was tying the NFL record with four. But that one there, man, this one right here was special because we was down, I believe. 10, 17 to 10 points in the fourth quarter with about 10 something minutes ago. Then I got, then I, Dalvin ended up, you know,

having a big run getting us back in the game. And I never forget, man, we were still down, but I remember talking to the guys on the sideline. I was like, man, I don't know how we're going to win it,

but we're going to win it. Just keep believing. Then the next thing you know, Justin catches the fourth down. Dude, I was unbelievable. What are you guys doing on the, sideline, are you really, do you, it's fourth and 17. I think it's in my head. I know the exact

down distance. But like on the sideline, are you thinking it's over? Like, be real. Are you thinking we got a shot at this thing? Man, honestly, man, the way we practice those scenarios, I feel like I always had a shot because that's one thing Coach O'Connor did very well. We practice each in every scenario in two minutes that you can think of, that you can possibly think of. So it wasn't no situation that we was unfamiliar with. So no. I was like, man, we still got a shot. Kirk got the ball. We got Justin. We got

Dalvin. We still got a shot. We still got some meat on the bone. So next thing you know, I'm standing up because I want to see it because obviously it could possibly be the last play of the game. So I'm standing up with my coach. I'm right behind coach. No, actually, I'm in front of the play. So the play

is coming straight to me on my sideline. On the sideline, I'm like, Justin, it's him and the receiver. And I'm in him the defensive back. I can't remember who the safety was, but I'm like, it's one-on-one. Justin, we always talk about him getting better with the 50-50 balls.

Here's your shot. He went up there with his right hand and just snagged it and came down with it. I would never forget that moment of my life because when he caught the ball, I came right out of my arm because it was cold as hell in Buffalo. Came right out of my jacket.

I was like, hurry up, get on the ball, get on the ball, get on the ball. And we ended up getting on the ball. and the rest was history, we ended up scoring. And, hell, we scored, tied the game up. The fumble. Yeah, I think we end up going up by, I think we tied the game. I can't remember how it went because we still.

I can't remember how I went either. It was like a, it was like a fucking, it was like from one minute to next, I thought each team was going to win the game. And then they were backed up and fumbled the ball, which is like a miracle. That's what I was going to say. That was a crazy. is part crazy, craziest play in the game. By far, because if he, think about it,

if he just gets that snap fall forward, the game is pretty much over. Yeah, it's over. But the football guys was on our side. He ended up slipping. You know, the snap end up slipping through his fingers. Eric Kendrit comes in, comes through there like a Spider-Man and the rips ball out.

Vikings go up and then they still end up going down to kick a field goal to Tattie. No, it was wild. I mean, it was the greatest game I'd seen all year. I'm kind of wondering, because y'all won some tight games in Minnesota. I mean, Pittsburgh, tough division. We had Kenny on a couple weeks ago. I know he led them to a couple late drives last year that solidified wins for them. I'm wondering, as a vet, haven't seen it all, been on teams that lost close games,

been on some teams that kind of got it. What goes into winning close games in the NFL? Because we always talk about it. It's like a skill learning how to win for a young team. You know, Pittsburgh's probably learning how to win again a little bit with a new quarterback. What advice would you give young players or do they just have to go through it? Man, you know, that's a great question, man. The biggest thing for me is obviously getting the reps, you know, being, putting yourself,

the coach doing a great job of putting his guys through situations, through two-minute situation. It's just like you said, you have to, you have to, you have. have to learn how to win. And the number one way of learning how to win is not beating yourself. You know, being one of the least penalized teams, you know, in the league. And that's what we were in Minnesota. You know, we was the least penalized team. And we want two-minute, two-minute defense and offense before to have and in the game.

So when you're able to win situation of football, everything else is kind of like, I won't necessarily call it a fluff, but the most important parts of the game, as you know, Chris, is before halftime and at the end of the game. Because if teams score before halftime, it's almost a 78% chance that they're going to win. So when you're on defense,

obviously you want to keep them out of the end zone. And if you're on offense, you want to at least get three. Because your chances of winning goes up significantly. You know, so giving the guys the rules, We also understand if you get a penalty on offense, your chances of scoring go completely down. Yeah, man. I saw that sheet too, bro. I was like, man, it's like a formula.

If the offense just, I mean, one penalty defensively or offensively tilts the odds exponentially, man. It's like it's real math. It really is. And people don't understand that. So I feel like if you have continued to give these young guys the rules on how to win those situations, football, situational football points, then I feel like you'll have a better,

you know, a better way of understanding how to win football game. Last thing on the QB Netflix thing, I mean, I think it's cool, but you know how I feel about QBs with my line of work. My last job, I would like to see a DB thing on Netflix. And I'm wondering who you think if they had, let's say four guys in the NFL right now

that you'd like to see followed around that play the position, who would you want to see? Oh, man. I would like to see sauce. Yeah. I would like the star. Jayaer, because he's a character, man. He's interesting.

Yes. Yes. That dude can ball, but he knows that are getting people's heads. Man, I love that. I love that about him. Let me see two more. Man, you got to get, I know he's not playing anymore, but Richard Sherman.

Yeah. You got to get Richard in there. He's doing the show with Skip. I know. I know I saw that. Congratulations to my boy, Richard. Doing his thing in the second. NFC. West making money after football, man.

And to the second chapter in his life, man. That's awesome. I text him as soon as I found out that he got the gig. And lastly, can we do an old timer in there? Oh, yeah. Fuck it. Throw an old timer in there. Prime time.

Yeah, that would be great. You got to follow him on coaching. They're working up at Colorado, man. Those kids didn't know what they were in for. I'd like to see Xavier and Howard. I never hear him say a fucking word. I just put a microphone in front of my man. I want to hear what, like, what does his voice sound like?

He never talks. He doesn't say shit, dude. You ain't lying. I'd like to get him on Netflix. And then your guy, Honeybadger, too. I just love that, dude. I know you love him. I know that's your guy, like maybe your little.

brother a little bit from LSU. Yeah. Do you take as much pride in watching him play as anybody? I do. I do just because, man, me and him went through it. Like, me and him shared the same visions. Like, when we was in school, we talked about being in the position that, in the position that we are in today, you know, not only being recognized as one of the best, you know,

in college football, we want our name to continue to live on in the sport of football. And, you know, now, you know, both of us had an opportunity to showcase our talents in Arizona, and we end up being named to the 2010 all-decade team. You know, so to see, you know, him still playing at a high level, we just continue to push each other, man, each and every year. You know, me and him, we share, you know, some of the same attributes of we're never satisfied. We're always trying to find a way to continue to get better, not only find a way for ourselves to get better, but help our teammates along the journey as well, because we just want to see everybody successful.

So why the Steelers, man? I feel like I've heard you take a crack at this, but, you know, I've been in your position. I wasn't the player you were, but, like, looking at it, like I'm trying to cash in on a career that I'm proud of, but haven't had a chance to win the big one, you know, feel like you're a guy who deserves that opportunity. You're what, 31?

Like you don't know. You said you want to play 15 years, bro, but I figured I'd check in on that because now it's 13. Year 13. I think you said that like a year or two ago. First off, you still feel like 15. And secondly, what goes into making this decision when you're like, you never know.

I mean, I want to play 15, but your next contract, you know, your next play could be your last, like at 31, 32, 33. So how do you make that decision and how long do you want to do this? Man, you know, Chris, I definitely 15 is my goal. you know but it all depends on how the body feels next year you know as of right now the body feels great you know that's awesome lean um about 5% body fat you know my nutritionists are on me right now I say I need a little bit more body fat a little bit too lean that's a good thing to hear but you know the mind feels great yeah I still have joy for it man you know I feel like if I ever don't want to work out

or don't want to go through the grind, that's when it's time for me to hang it up. But, like, I don't know what it is on the latter part of my career. I just feel like I'm getting more joy than I ever had before. I don't know because I think I know that it's coming to an end, but I'm just enjoying every moment that I can because it's kind of weird, but hearing these kids coming to the locker room like, man, I was watching you when I was in middle school.

You know, I was watching you when I was in high school. You know what that does to me? that motivates me even more because now I'm still in this game that I love so much that I, it's literally to me a kid's game but we getting paid, you know, very well for it.

But that's just how I see the game. Like I don't see it as a job. You know, I see it as, you know, it's fun for me. And I want to continue to keep it fun because once the fun leaves me, I think I need to leave the game. Yeah, man, I can remember being young and like, you know, you're always trying to prove yourself.

You're always intrinsically motivated by yourself. Otherwise, you wouldn't be here. But the external motivation of being young is like, I hope I don't get cut or I hope I don't get yelled at in this meeting. And now it's like I hope when I go in this meeting, the young guys look at this play and they feel like they have a good blueprint for how to go about my job in the NFL. Right. And that love you get from the young guys, man, when you walk into a locker room, year 11, 12. of whatever it is and you're a vet, that's a different deal. I mean, it really is.

It's less stressful. I mean, if your body feels good, it's less stressful. You know, I kind of like that chapter of the career. So I think that's great. And then you end up walking in the building and you got this special wide receiver in George Pickens, who was compared a little bit to a guy you played against in college in AJ Green. I don't know, man.

You got a chance to go against them now in practice. Sure. Does he have a comp to you? Like, has he remind you of anybody that you played against in the past? Man, he reminds me of a couple guys that I played with in the past. You know, I feel like he has the hands. And I told him this. He reminds me a lot of DeAndre Hopkins on the way he goes up and attack the football. You know, his catch radius. You know, there's not many passes that you that you see DeAndre Hopkins drop, you know, no matter. no matter how he catches it. You know, he's going to, it's going to come down in his possession. And he has a little bit of Chad Johnson, too, far as his body type, his body structure. You know, he's a very, very lean and awkward route runner. You know, like I said, kind of like a Chad Johnson, you know.

And he also has very, very, very, very deceptive speed, you know, and I think that comes from the stride that he has. because as dbs, we're always taught to run, you know, in the hip pocket of the receiver. But GP strides are so long, like, as we're trying to stay in his hip pocket, his strides are almost a foot to, you know, a foot and a half longer than ours. So he's continuing to gain ground on us and making it easier for him to stack, you know, the DBs. You know, so those just a couple comparisons that I can think of. off the top of my head with the guys I played with, guys I played against that I feel like GP compared close to.

Do you play guys or you're like, you see him on film? Because I remember playing a tackle and being like, oh, his anchor's not great. And then you go to Bullock and I'm like, okay, maybe I'm not as strong as Julius Pepper as well. You know, like, you know, you watch film and it's a totally different deal when you get out there on the field. maybe a guy surprises you because of how long his stride is or how quick he gets into his break or whatever it is. Like this is like speaking French to me.

This is second level stuff. But like are there guys that you're like, man, the way you're talking about George Pickens, they're deceptive. And then on Sunday you're like, damn, dude, I got to really stay in his hip pocket. Hey, yes. My second year, Calvin Johnson.

Yeah. Because, you know, I never, this is my first time. ever going up against him. Matter of fact, it was my rookie year. It was my first time ever going up against him. And, like, I believe, like, two weeks prior, they had just played Dallas, and this one, he went crazy for, like, 321 yards.

Dallas, they had no answer for him. At one point, they had three guys on him, like, line straight up over there. So I'm like, damn, like, the fuck, like, he's literally taking three people out of the game to cover one guy. So I'm like, this dude, and you hit a size on, you know, you see the 6,6, 240.

But you're like, all right, it says 6,6, 240, running 4.3. I'm like, all right, man, that sounds like crazy. But then when you get up there, you're like, holy shit. Yeah, this is real. Now, yeah, he really is 6,6. He really runs a 4-3, and he's really 240. bit of it. It might be 241.

Right. So being right there in front of it in live action, I was like, yeah, this is going to be a game. And guess, guess what, Chris, how many targets? He got that game. 13. 21. Did you take that personal?

I did. I had a couple PbUs. I had me a pick. You know, I bought out. You battled. But you know, Matt, Matt going force feed his guys. Yeah. And who's guarding him?

Yeah, exactly, exactly. I mean, they're going to get their touches. Is this the best uniform that you've worn? I mean, I know I don't want to disrespect LSU because I love the LSU uniforms. And so I'll leave them out of this, but it's got to be the best pro look you've had. By far, because not only black is my favorite color to wear, but black just means dominance. And that's just something I just love that black and gold, that black and yellow, man. And it's one of the, one of the, probably one of the most notified uniforms across the league.

Obviously, I knew we got some great teams like the Cowboys, the 49ers. But that steel curtain and that blackened, that black top with the yellow pants, so traditional. In all of sports, I put the Steelers up there with almost any uniform. And then the cool thing about Pittsburgh, which I liked about Philly, It's like everything's right there. So, like, in Philly, we'd be at the link, we'd play. You'd go oversee the Sixers. It's like, you know, Stones Throw Away.

You get through the bank to watch baseball, Wells Fargo. The whole thing's right there. And in Pittsburgh, I love that everything's black and yellow. And everything's right on the river. Everything. They definitely bleed. They're black and yellow here. These Pittsburgh fans are by far, you know, some of the best fans that I've been around.

They travel well. They support their team. win, lose, a draw. And they just love defense and football. Like, as a defensive player, that's what you want. Like, when you're on, when you at your home field and your crowd is making it tougher for the opponents, and then when you travel and they're still making it tough

for the opponents, that's a beautiful thing, man. Yeah. Do you remember playing in Pittsburgh when they play? I don't know if you know Sticks, but you know the song they play. Oh, yeah. Yeah, okay, because I don't think Kenny Pickett knew who Sticks was. We had him on the fucking pod.

I was like, how you like the sticks? He was like, yeah, it was pretty good. I was like, oh, shit, Kenny, you're going to learn that. You got to take him aside, man. Another thing about Heinzfield that sticks out to me is the grass, man. And I know

like it just was the topic, because I used to play y'all down in Arizona. Don't remind me. You want to talk about 2011 in the fucking 99-yard walkout. Bro, I think I beat, I think I beat you to the end zone walking into the tunnel when you ran that pump back to you. Okay. Me and James Hall or whoever it was, we were in the tunnel watching.

There it goes. But the grass there is atrocious, right? I mean, like when you played there, it wasn't always that way. I don't feel like every time we played down in Arizona, it was bad. But like during the Super Bowl and Maine News. Then you go to Minneapolis. It's turf, right? And then Hinesfield's like a whole different thing.

I remember we used to play where seven studs. there. And I know DBs, the coaches will say get the right cleats on. And y'all are over in the corner like, how can we get around this shit? Are you going to wear the ugly seven studs up there? Are you worried about the grass? You know, no, I'm not worried about the grass, Chris. You know, I have to adjust when I need to. I'll let finger on the receiver's brain. Okay, there we go. Here we go. I like it. But this is the coldest home game. These are the coldest home games. going to play in your entire life, dude. Yeah, but I'm prepared for it, man.

I'm a freaking lying. I adapt, baby. You don't worry about the cold, huh? I feel like there's a little, there's a wink and a nod here. You answering this question. You got a smile on your face. You really don't care about the cold? Are you like one of these, like, no sleeves guys?

Are you going to bundle up? You got tricks. You put the hand warmers in your, you know, you hide the hand warmers and shit. Which guy are you? So I'm going to be the guy that wears no sleep. I always wear my traditional one sleeve. Yeah, I wish my traditional one sleeve, but the hot packs will be. I have it in my knee pad, my thigh pack, I have it in my shoulder pads,

on my back. So I'm gonna make, oh, I got them. You got them on the back. They show them nice and warm now. Yes, sir, dude. That's what I'm talking about. How about the slot stuff, man? Because, you know, people drew a comparison.

I think it's a great comparison because this guy's, maybe the best that ever did it, but one of them, Charles Woodson, going to Green Bay, second chapter of his career, moving positions a little bit, moving around. You know, I know you reunited with your DB coach there from LSU. He's up at Pittsburgh. Like, how comfortable are you with all this, man? Like, you know, hitting the curveball a little bit, doing some different stuff. I heard you say the game slows down for you in the slot.

Why? And are you excited about that? man you know Chris I always wanted to be like because my whole football life before I got to LSU I played everyone in the football field yeah like I never came off the football field ever like if there was if there was 40 minutes in a high school football game I played 40 minutes literally half a minute minutes it was it I played every second on the on the clock so when I got to LSU you can ask less miles I mean I wanted to play everything there to as well. But I learned in college, we have scholarships. You know, we got people that they're

bringing in to play specific positions. So I knew that I wasn't going to play offense. So my next gig was to play Pump Return. And Trennan Holiday was back there, the fastest man in college football. So I had to wait my junior to finally get back down Punt Return. In my first game, I broke the SEC record. And Les Miles was like, man, I knew you had it in you, but godly, I should have thought about putting you on offense. Yeah. So now having an opportunity to get back to what I've been doing in my early football days, I believe that's what's bringing me so much more joy in the game of football because now I feel like I can be utilized as a ball player now versus just a corner. Like I've been at, like I never forget my early, my early, my early part in my career, I never was a part of the game playing.

Like, Pat, you got him. Everybody else, this is what we're doing. And I always wanted, and that was fun, but I also wanted to be lined up in different positions. I wanted to blitz. I wanted to play a little safety. I wanted to play a little to inside. But my, I never forget, my coach, Rocky, it was like, man, I know you want to do all these things, but you're really fucking good at Gardner guy. Exactly, dude.

We can kind of man you up over here. It makes our jobs easier. I know that looks fun, but then what do we do out there? Exactly. So we're not moving anywhere. So just get used to that. So that end up going by, years end up going by. Then now here in year 13, pre-agency, you know,

now I'm on Pittsburgh radio because they, you know, they just lost Cam. And, you know, they have Mink and their defense is, you know, is rad. You know, obviously they put their invest a lot of money in their front seven, but the defensive line because they want to harass a quarterback. But they also want guys, instinctive guys on the back end that's able to make plays. Right.

And once I, you know, once I became on their radar, you know, we had our talks and Coach Tomlin was like, man, you know, I want to bring you in here just not to be a quarterback, but I want to use all of your attributes. Like, we know you have great ball skills. We know you're a student of the game. We know that you love to study. So we're going to put that to work. I was like, what you mean, coach? He's like, I'm going to have you inside.

I want to play you at safety. I want to play you at dime. I want to play you at nickel, corner, and also be a mentor. Yeah. I'm like, coach, I'm all game, baby. Let's do it because now you're giving me an opportunity to not only be on the corner

to be everyone on the football field to make my opportunities of making plays go up that much more because think about this as well, Chris. For 10 years of my career, I've been playing with my back against the quarterback. I never seen when the ball is coming my way. I had to find out or, you know,

listen to the sideline when they're calling the ball, this, that, and other. And now last year was my first time playing in a true zone defense. Yeah. I had five picks. So now having an opportunity to come over in Pittsburgh and move around a little bit and see the quarterback a lot more. I feel like it can be another big year for me.

Hell yeah, dude. I mean, I didn't think about that. I mean, the only thing with Manon's own for me ever was like, our rush lane's got to be good because these motherfuckers got their backs turn. And I figure, you know, that's going to come in handy when it comes in handy in your division because you got two quarterbacks rather that you don't want to play a lot of man again. You don't want to turn your back to Lamar. You don't want to turn you back to Sean.

Is it a lot different defending, you know, for us, the rushers, yeah, obviously, but for you on the back end, how different is it? What are the differences in defending a guy like Lamar? It is different, Chris, just because when you're guarding not only good receivers, but a mobile quarterback, we have to guard these guys for an extra three to five seconds. which is hard to guard those guys on their initial route. You know, so, and then they have their entire field to work with. So, like, all the, all of your game planning, all of your notes go out the window. Once that quarterback pocket and the receiver starts scrambling, trying to find open lanes for him to throw it to him.

You know, so I always hated playing mobile quarterback's because they made the defensive back job harder. And that's when I was in that man-to-man system, man-in-man system in Arizona. We had to play Russell, and he trammling around in the backfield for eight to ten seconds. Then the defensive back coach looking at you crazy, like we, like, how can we guard some receiver for eight seconds? And we don't know where the hell he's going. You got to talk to the D-Line on that one. They got to get home.

We used to take care of that. We used to eat up in Seattle. We used to love playing Russ. He bail it out of the back, holding the ball for eight, ten seconds. Yeah. You know, we, you know, when you, we used to do that same thing as well. But, you know, when you start disassembling the team, you know, you start guys from everywhere.

I know what you mean. I thought to tackle a Mr. Houdini in that pocket, man. No question. No question. He looked good in the first preseason game. You know, he was throwing some darts over the middle of the field. That wasn't really his thing in Seattle. But we'll see.

I think now since he has a true office of coordinator. Yes. I think he would be better because we all know Russell, he wasn't a first throw guy. He's looking to stramble to get guys open. That was their game, backyard football. They never, and Chris, you can attest to this. You can probably name five plays that Russell dropped back and threw on time.

Yeah, two of them were the other night. Right. Hey, I was like, what is that? back foot like, like just planning and I mean, it was crazy. You know what I mean, dude. No doubt about it, man. It was tough. Yeah.

Yeah. No, that's funny. Can you still return punts, you think? I mean, like physically you can still do it? No, okay. I don't want to do it just because I don't want to get hit anymore. Good for you. Good for you, bro.

The kids get older. You know, you start to see your mortality a little bit more like there's certain things I don't want to do anymore. All right. Let's talk about two Thursday night games this year. Is that a pain in the ass? Yes. It's a big pain.

I'm not being basketball. I'm not sugar-coating at all at all because, you know, the league, and, you know, they're going to get their bread. They're going to, you know, it's all about money. Yeah. But we always talk about player safety. That's not safety for players to be playing in a quick turnaround like that. And two Thursday night games this year.

Like, one was hard enough. But now having two, man. How quick did you see that when you looked at the schedule? First of all, I didn't even look at the schedule. My cousin Brian told me. Oh, yeah. I was like, two Thursday. Like, man.

Damn, dude. At two thirds of night games. Damn, bro. I don't like it at all just because I feel like, you know, it's not giving our, bodies enough time to turn over. You already add a 17th game. Going to have a game on Black Friday, Friday this year. In the latter part of the season, you have Saturday games. Like, it's a money business, but I do not like the two-thirds

in that games. I'm skipping the Black Friday game. It would be a Best Buy, bro. I'm not, I'm going to be hung over at Best Buy. Iber shopping, man. Yeah, CyberShow. I'll be on my laptop. Hey, Joey Porter Jr., this is the craziest thing in the world, man. You play with his pops in Arizona, and now you're getting to play with Joey Porter Jr. How's he doing, man? How's he dealing with that pressure of, you know, because I've been there with the dad who played and, you know, he's a real good player in college, and now he's in a big football city. I know it probably helps to have you there. What's that relationship been like? And how different is he from his? dad personality-wise. Oh, he's night and day difference from his dad. Like, senior is like the life of the party, you know, very, very rowdy. He has like a defense-aligned mentality.

He just don't, he don't give two shits about nothing. You know what I mean? But his son, on the other hand, on the other hand, is completely just quiet to himself. But he also loves the game. And he want all the input that I can give him that, you know, coaches can give him. He just want to find a way to be the best version of him. You know what he? And as a young kid, see him coming in with that hunger and with that grit of the want to get better.

I mean, you can't help but to pour all you can to them because for me, like we talked about early in the show, I want to continue to see generations after me to continue to, you know, thrive and make the game that much. better for the future to come. Was Joey one of your best vets in Arizona? Who were the guys that kind of showed you the road? Yeah, man, Joe was definitely one of the best vets I've been around. Obviously, Larry, Adrian Wilson, Darnell Dockett. Doc. He was, yeah, he was a vet when I was there, but he's not too much older than me. I think he was two years older than me, but Rashard Johnson, You know, I believe since we were so close in age, I think he was in his third year when I got drafted.

So he was undrafted, so he's an SEC guy, and we just hit it off from day one. And we still talk to this day. He's actually coaching the Nichols at Tampa, so I had an opportunity to see him this past weekend. So he was another one. Gerard Powers is another one. Golfing, dude.

I want to ask you about golfing last man. I hear you're a pretty good golf. and I'm just kind of wondering how this goes, because I didn't play golf. I just started playing golf. It's actually pretty fun. Go figure. But how did you play in Minneapolis,

bro, because like after a certain point in the year, like it's too cold. It's going to be the same thing in Pittsburgh. You were kind of spoiled in Arizona. I know, man. And when I got to Minnesota, I was in for a rude awakening. Because, like you said,

when I was in Arizona, I golfed almost every day, especially like on a Friday when we had a short day. And when I got to Minnesota, to all of that stop in the month of October. So I'm like, whoa, this is, this is, this is an, uh, in an, in an adjustment because I'm so used to playing golf on my Fridays. Now I got to change my whole resume.

My resume now. So what the heck I'm going to do? I still golf, but not outside. Really? Where like top golf or some shit? No, there was, it was this place up the street from my house. It was called, uh, it was almost like a, um, it was almost like a, um, golf tech, but it was

a Minnesota brand. I cannot remember the name of it, but I used to go in there and just hit balls off into the net. They had a putting green. They had a little chipping area. So I wasn't outside playing, but I still had an opportunity to hit balls. I love the game. And, you know, I feel like

it's something that will keep me as close to a locker room feeling as possible because you still go out there and be competitive. You still go out there and talk trash. You still can go out there and tell a story. You know, so it's, I feel like playing golf is the closest thing that I have me in a locker once I'm done.

Well, it's like, it's hard. Here's the thing with my setup. I'm thinking about asking my wife to go golf and that's like six hours of day drinking that she knows I'm just asking to go do on a Tuesday. I just don't know if I, I'm going to be able to get that, that pass. Last question for you, man. You've done so much. Obviously, the Super Bowl would be one thing, but give me something you haven't done before.

that you want to do on the field before you hang it up after year 15 or whatever that is. Yeah, man. I want to be, I want to get double-digit interceptions. That's always been my goal since I've been playing. I came close once. I had seven my second year and last year with five. So those are my two season highs. You know, so being a double-digit interception guy in the season, that would be pretty big.

All right, maybe this year, man. I'm pulling for you all, man. I'm pulling for the Steelers, pulling for my guy here, Patrick Peterson, one of the best ever do it. And just the man on and off the field. Go check out all things cover podcasts and watch them on Sundays. You can do both. Pat, thank you, bro.

Appreciate it, Chris. Good news. The Thursday show we do with AMP will continue 430 every Thursday, the Greenlight team, Cowboy Reed, Facts, Kingston. I'll pop through there sometimes. On amp, you can interact with us really easily. There's a call-in button. We invite call-ins all the time.

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We're going to be doing what we've been doing all fall. Every Thursday of 430 on amp. Check us out. Hey, Kyle. Guys, Megan. Two things. first from that Oppenheimer discussion.

The cop from Dumb and Dumber it's not Harlan Williams. Yeah, I fucked that up. So, Harley Williams is like 60 years old. I just, the guy looks like Harlan Williams. He's got a hilarious podcast.

Harlan Williams. Like, he is so funny. I never realized how funny it is. So, anyways, Michael Ower. Yeah. Did you hear about this conservator chip thing?

This Britney Spears blindside kind of situation. You got blindsided. He got blindsided big time. So did the toys today. Hey, the whom's. Those are his fake parents. I don't mean to say it like that. I didn't see the movie. We don't know the facts. Yeah. I didn't see blindside. I'll never watch blindside. I had this is my victory lap like I never liked blindside. I never liked the idea of it. I thought for sure it had to be agreed. You know and I read the book. I've got the book paperback. Now, I don't think anybody knew this because Michael Orr didn't know this until this year. He was under a secret conservatorship.

Is this real? Yeah, dude. Okay, I have different thoughts about it. And a conservatorship is essentially when you sign your unknowingly or knowingly, but you're like a minor. You sign your rights away. Basically, like any money you make, those deals got to go through the people. Okay, I'm done joking about it. That's awful.

Well, I'm not done joking about it. he thought he thought he had been legally adopted by these yeah yeah make no no this all makes sense and he wasn't so and they get cash flow they never yes they get cashed did you know randy myzner lived under a conservatorship late in his life i heard today which is confusing to me yeah that's right after his wife died he didn't help me out take care of himself so he like submitted himself to somebody else essentially no way who is this uh the guy from the singer from the Eagles, the guy that hits the high note. Yeah.

Dang. He just died. He just belted it all out. He had nothing left. Conservatorship over. Pretty shitty band. Don't say that. Who's what?

Well, they're not a shitty band. Okay. Do you have a small vocabulary? Hey, take it easy. I'm just prodding. Oh, man. All right, guys. I don't know any other Eagles songs.

That's how California. Okay. No, I do. I do. eyes. Yeah, you got some lion eyes going on there. You don't mean that. All right.

So anyways, the Michael Orr thing, we do not like this. No. We are an anti-conservatorship pod. I just want to plant my flag right now. Miss congeniality, more like miscriminality. Not bad. I don't know who it is. Sandra Bullock's so fine, by the way.

Yeah. A good time to remind you that I had a chance to take a picture with her and I looked awkward as fuck because I was so intimidated by it. I can't even share the picture. Reid has the picture. You did take a picture with her, though. Well, because Brian, we were at the Espies, and Brian Nelson knows about my thing about Sandra Bullock.

It's more of a time to kill thing and speed. But, you know, generally Sandra Bullock. Speed. And, oh. Speed. We always had speed. I never wanted that bus ride to end, dude. I would have just been like, no, you don't have to be afraid of Dennis Hopper.

You got to be afraid of me because I'm never stopping this bus. Taking you with me. Dennis Hopper was a great reason of that. So have you seen Time to Kill? I think so, yeah. Buddy. Grisham? Yeah, but I'm, Bullock?

Okay, so anyways. Was that McConaughey? Ashley Judd in Time to Kill over Sandra Bullock? Was that McConaughey? That is a scorching hot take. What McConaughey? What movie was McConaughey? Yeah, McConaughey was in it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen it. Free Carl Lee. Samuel L. Samuel L. Okay, say less. I've seen it. Yeah, so. So anyways.

I was back there at the Espies and Brian's like you should get a picture with Sandra Bullock. I'm like, nope. And I said, if you fucking say anything to her, I will kill you. And of course, I get a tap on the shoulder and Brian's like, come here and Sandra Bullock's standing over there looking like,

I got to go to my next thing. And I'm like, Jesus Christ. So I go over there and take a picture and end up looking like just SpongeBob Squarepants Pants in a picture with my child on their crush. Because I just, I look so. The lighting was bad. She looks gorgeous.

Yeah, I look like a corpse. Yeah, I was on day two of a bender. This must have been a year after you're in GQ. So you were already, you had peaked. You had peaked at GQ. This is relatively, Kyle, which appearance? Yeah. You know?

I'm talking about for like the hot celebrity guy. No, I was never that. But anyways, it was awkward. I figured you could have been like spitting game maybe. So Michael O'er, I feel bad for, what do you mean? The GQ of you. You do? Yeah.

I still do. I was just playing. They gave me a bunch of shoes. I do. I remember they came to Charlottesville. I was 23 years old. I was living in an apartment down here, and they did it at a warehouse.

They come in, they got like five suitcases of distress dunks and cool old sneakers. And at the end of the shoot, I'm like, what are you guys going to do with these sneakers? They're like, well, I'm going to take them.

So I had my closet was like, you know, outfitted by GQ for a couple of years. I still can't dress. Okay. Can I just tweet this picture right now? No. Come on, man.

Come on. Let me tweet that picture. You can if you want. Thank you. There'll be one later. for you. What are you out? Oh, I look hot as shit.

I'm going to, I'm going to dog you on Twitter later. Look at my, yeah. We got a Widows Peak. Yeah. You know what they told me at that first GQ shoot? They said, you remind me a little bit of Guy Ritchie.

I don't think that's a compliment. Who's Guy Ritchie? I had to look him up. I know who Guy Ritchie is. English film director. Yeah. Not hot. I got to see him.

He was married to Madonna. Who wasn't married to Madonna? So I'm a cuckled? Guy Ritchie. Richie. You do look a bit from the odds, mate. I did not know who Guy Richie. I still don't know who Guy Richie is.

Okay. So, NFL preseason. Yeah. Yeah, it's going on. We made it. We're here. You know what happens fast to that Hall of Fame game happens. You're like, holy shit.

It started again. Because it never stopped. They never stopped the calendar. It's just the masters of keeping the ball. in the air, dude, the NFL. I mean, all year, you never bored. And then all of a sudden, you're like, boom, football game. Tough acting to NACTA. So anyways, I guess we start with the QBs, just bouncing around here. The first one I want to talk about, Reed, is Russell Wilson. Now, I'm so conditioned to think over the last two years, if I see Russell

Wilson's name online, it's going to be making fun of them. And there was this Edward Sharp, no, not Edward Sharp, Warren Sharp, not the magnetic zeros. I'm not talking about how many kicks Jake Moody made this weekend. The kicker that they drafted a kicker in the third round. Smart. The Niners, idiots. Fucking drafted kicker in the third round. He missed two chip shots in his first preseason game,

which goes back to a theory. He's getting it out of the way. I'm working on, which is you never draft a kicker. You don't draft the kicker. Even if he's Adam Vinitieri, that's pretty much it. You don't draft the kicker because the minute you draft the kicker, it's in his head.

So there is a line, though. You got to wait. You can't draft a kicker early unless he doesn't care about anything, like it's Sebastian Janakowski. Like if you go to his workout and he's just in a, there's a pile of like Papp's Blue Ribbons and he crawled out, you're like, that's my kicker. So that, Greg Zerlein. What's the Mendoza line for? Greg Zerlind. Okay.

Because in St. Louis, Greg, the leg, hit a lot of long kicks. But he was the type to get on the plane and just get, you know, slammered on 12, you know, Milwaukee's best. Kickers get expensive too. So if you have a good kicker early, you're going to have to pay him again and pay him again and pay him again. It's like Robbie Gold is one of the best Chicago Bears ever and didn't get to finish as a bear. They didn't even want to like retain.

I don't think it's like the running back situation. But it's, you know, they're expensive. At some point, these guys die, you know, these kickers. They get so old, they do. You know, some of them are in the league so long. Remember Morton Anderson? Morton Anderson retired and he had a single, single face bar. Yep, yep. So anyways, Russell Wilson, he played well. He played really well. He didn't get any support from that offensive line.

The offensive line, on the other hand, the guard position was bad. The tackle position was bad. Why they have so many tight ends on the field for run game? And Garrett Bull said it. He was like, dude, we play like shit. And I agree. And watching the film, the first thing that jumped out at me was like, okay, Russ was under siege a little bit. But the good news was, you know, we talked a lot on the. this show about Russell not buying into hitting that that third step or that seventh step or whatever you know in Seattle was like step nine and then it was like five back pedals and a bailout he was hitting his third or fifth or seventh step and he was he was hitting his back foot and delivering and he was throwing the ball over the middle of the field he his timing was good and the ball looked live coming off his arm and so I just want to say this

like don't get caught up in the hype here because when i saw warren sharp i'm like he he had a caption said every russell wilson throw and i'm like brace yourself and it was pretty good chris yeah 34 year old nine-time pro baller my 34 year old nine-time pro bowl quarterback isn't playing preseason you're gonna tell me sean peyton you're gonna tell me new system he's got to get some reps out there i am okay yeah all right i am i mean like this is a new system it's him reinventing himself If it's going to work there, he's going to reinvent himself. And that's going to take more than just like in the classroom, buying into the concepts. It's a renaissance.

You really have to get out there and rep delivering the football on time. And I thought he did that, man. I thought, I thought Russ was pretty good. Can I ask you what you thought of the Cardinals video they posted after their win? How long did they hold that? Dude, it was up. Yeah, how long did they hold it? And then they deleted it.

That was the worst part. Did they delete it? They deleted it after like eight hours. You know, because it is kind of like piling on and at some point, like an NFL team's like believing, man. By one point, sick. Super cool. Yeah, and also super cool. This is the best thing the Cardinals did.

Cardinals go down, David Blow, who's in the desert right now. Right. He goes down and ties the game or they're down one point with five seconds ago. Now, Kyle, if you're a football coach and you're an extra point away in the preseason, you're going for two, right? Get out of here. Get the fuck out of here. win or lose get the fuck out of here now they're at home so stakes aren't as high as if you're the road team but like imagine going into overtime and a preseason game i think it's happened to me maybe once you're at the stadium for another hour at least um so big ups and they all come down to those because you know these guys who are getting reps yeah usually don't get reps are playing their nuts off yeah like right now these guys are playing for their lively you ever hope that quarterback that was unsigned just throws a dime in the quarter of the end zone on the decisive drive

and that young wide receiver you don't really like drops it and then you get to go home. Like, you know, it's like that those thoughts. Damn, dude. Well, no, it's just more about like I got somewhere to be.

Yeah, I want everybody to play well. I didn't have kids and shit when I was playing. Like, you know, now I get it. I would be like, let's get the fuck out of it. No, listen, good for them going for two. Shout out Jonathan Gannon for that. Here's an idea.

Pew, boom, boom, boom. Regulation ties in preseason. For sure. Yeah, there you go. Like time limit. Okay. And here's the flip side of the coin of like preseason, which is I saw Russell Wilson's name.

Immediately I think probably played bad, right? You see like Trey Lance's highlight video or his low light video. You hear about his performance. And you know, somebody said earlier, why are they lifting Stetson, Benadub? And he has a similar performance where he almost throws a couple of picks and that sort of thing. And they're down on Trey Lance. Well, because the two are expected to do.

different things. I mean, like, you know, Trey Lance is a guy they give up all these assets for and they really need him to play well. Or they don't because one of these rumors is that Shanahan, and this is third hand to me, so this is like pure rumor mill and I'm not saying it's substantiated

or realistic, but people are talking about Shanahan wanting to tank Trey Lance's performance so we don't have a quarterback controversy. I don't think that you got anything to worry about there. Just kind of take your hands off the reins. Just take your hands off the wheel. If anything, they can play better so maybe you can trade him. You know, like,

that's the way I look at it. So I don't buy that like, you know, they're, they're showing half their hand and they're getting him kill it out there. I think Trey Lance just held on the ball too long. Dan Arlowski was talking about it. Like, you can't be a quarterback in that system and be indecisive. You can't, I mean, like, he's a half field read guy right now. You can just tell. And that's a young, he's a young player. But if that, if that first looks not there, you got to have a checkdown you got to hit it man and he got sacked a couple times he got hit a couple times almost through a couple picks but stets and bennett uh looked good i thought looking at his highlight video like i was like damn they might have something first off stets and bennett has a beautiful

uh release it's kind of like a sidearm kind of quick uh quick draw kind of thing um what's he pointing at stets of benna yeah there he is above the door uh and and and and it's And, you know, I- sketch tape to the wall. Yeah. I, I see. You know why? You know why? Because he thinks he's hot.

No, I thought he. He's no Sam Hartman? Correct. He's got a bit of a young Tom Cruise to him. Everybody calling him like Steve Urkel, though. I'm like, there's some Stefan or Kell in there. Okay. He can bring it out.

Yeah, he can bring it out. But anyways, he could also bring it out on the field. Like, the touchdown was pretty. He threw a couple, a couple balls to Tyler Johnson, one over the middle of the field. field where he picked up the blitz rifled it right in there there was a throwout sudden numbers that was impressive a couple of johnson but when you watch the actual game tape now this is the thing about preseason you got to watch the actual game tape you got and not get caught up in the highs do you

especially with a fucking quarterback because this is a guy that can kill you in one play and when i tell you he almost fumbled the first snap then he almost threw a pick six then he almost threw another pick six i'm talking about he went left throwing across his body he's got some of that fuck it drunk on main street at 3 a m kind of attitude out there on the field too i saw some good things from him but you know he's a he's competing to be a two or a three right now but i also thought there was a large contingency of people that just wrote him off and i thought that there's some skill sets here that's like a liability well like well no just like you looked at him and you held georgia against him number one and then two he looked tiny out there he looked like he looked like one of these guys with a huge head tiny body

and maybe that's true he has one of these actor heads but george is a fucking huge team he almost looked bigger on the field with the twos and threes in l a l a i played with a south carolina quarterback by the name of connor shaw he was like alshan's guy yeah yeah um but like dudes like these ball out and they do show you skill sets and as like the ones are on the sideline like this motherfucker is damn good and then you realize how good the ones are because a lot of these guys you never see are hear from. You also have to know who's playing who. That's the thing.

Like when you're getting down to watching preseason tape, it's really hard to differentiate. It's like watching the Jets. The Jets are running a couple guys that are going to play a lot of snaps. They're playing the ones against Carolina. By the way, Bryce Young, I see it. Like, I definitely see it. But it's going to be a long year there. The second round pick just got carted off today.

Their offensive line was tough. And this is their ones, dude. and they're not playing the ones of the Jets. And this guy was getting tattooed. But when it comes to the first thing I noticed about him, which I thought was really good, he's got calm feet. You know, you talk about a guy who knows he's going to get hit.

And, you know, he's a small guy. You wonder if he's going to be one of these guys that naturally wants to bail out of the back of the pocket if he's got happy feet back there. But he got destroyed early on a game when Jermaine Johnson just came in and almost took his head off. It's hard to find the right strikes owner like that. But he really just decisively delivered the ball when he could.

But I think after one preseason game, sorry Panthers fans. I grew up a Panthers fan, okay? I want my kids to, you know, a little less dolphins, a little more Panthers, Eagles, whatever. So I like the Panthers. I like Frank Reich. I don't know what they got offensively this year. 32nd league in spending offensively this year. and it shows.

I mean, it shows. I mean, they're, as you put it earlier, kicking the tiles on, kicking the tiles. You know? They're kicking tile. They're kicking the tile.

These motherfuckers are trying anything. Ceramico tile is just chomping at the dead. So remember we called ceramico tile during the softball season last year? It told them there was a big, yeah, good job. That was fucking awesome, by the way. So anyways.

You know, Loviska Chanel is not a one. You know, at this stage in his career, Adam Thielen, not a one. Who's their one? You get Hayden Hurst, the tight end, the offensive line, you know, some young, talented guys at tackle,

but, you know, they're going to be working some guys in a guard. I don't know about this team. And I don't know what their win total is, probably six and a half. I might take the under. Some people hate gambling is what I found out over the last couple weeks.

Making farted again. What'd you eat? The Builders Bar, the Mint Chocolate Builders Bar? It's disgusting. How's that disgusting? Well, we're not going to get a Cliff Bar. No, they're delicious. So, anyways, I don't know if it's six and a half,

but I'm a little bit bullish on the under, you know, just seeing that. I think this kid's going to be all right. Hey, you want a receiver there? Yeah, Jonathan Mingo, Ole Miss, 6'2. Nice player. Yeah, I know. People were asking about him earlier. I don't know how he's playing so far, but Russell Wilson again, great.

Trey Lance, taking too long, Justin Fields, three passes. Okay, like, we're on the Justin Fields hype train, for sure, but, like, I didn't see enough. And supposedly his fantasy ADP went up, like, a couple rounds. What was the Jordan Love word? I didn't get to watch any Jordan Love. I have not watched Jordan Love, but I am bullish on the Packers. I'm interested in it because I know there's so much shit talk coming in from Chicago right now.

Yeah. You know, we have a quarterback. You guys don't have a quarterback. And I'm kind of like low-key rooting for a guy like Jordan Love. And I hate to say that. I think Justin Fields is the answer. He's the guy in Chicago. And we didn't get to see the full onslaught of the weapon where we saw some smokes.

You just made a big mistake, Kyle. What's that? You just rooted for a packer? No, no. I'm saying I help for as a kid who is getting kind of criminally indict. You want, there's a situation where you want him to deliver a dime with the game of line. He's not as good as Amari Rogers to drop the ball. Yeah.

Okay. I do want the guy in the, yeah. So anyways. Good pass, bad catch. Yep, Stetson Bennett again, old but good. And Malik Willis, listen, if you want to see some bad O-Lyme play, you want to know depth, you know,

like it's about this deep, like this O-Line, that they have in Tennessee. And dude was under siege, Will Levis under siege, Will Levis, not ready. Will Levis does some Patrick Mahomes' arm angle kind of stuff and I'm like easy you know like crawl before you walk there buddy but malique willis just in a year we we both thought this Nolan you were looking at the tape as

well he's made some strides he has yeah he's looked just in terms of a polish as a pastor looked comfortably staying in the pocket yeah you're working at you're talking about the word with bryce and bailing out who's staying in there which is a big change for him yeah year to year so they're going to major and running the football man they're going to they're going to keep their ceiling high and lean into something you can control, which is coaching these guys up to run the football because they don't have pass blockers, man. The tackle situation is tough for them. Andre Dillard's out there at right tackle. I forget who they have at right tackle. Petit Free Air. Yeah. He's got a suspension. He's got at right tackle. They're going to have to weather

the storm because they got a suspended dude. So, I mean, like Tanna Hill's a starter. Petit for little brother. This could get interesting. Thank you. I was waiting. Right when I heard it, I was like, come on. Yeah, a little brother. A little friar. Talking about the Jets, I was really like Bryce Huff, man.

I was watching the edge rushers. Quentin Jefferson landed a clean. I think it was like a chop club. Got a sack. Jermaine Johnson sack spun right into a surface, so don't try this at home, but a sack for him. And I wish somebody would, I don't mean this like down-talkingly or anything, but I wish somebody would teach Jermaine Johnson

how to rush with his hands because he's got Twitch, he's powerful, maybe mix in a little long arm, you know, create a little separation. I mean, he's definitely a bull in a China shop. Yeah. But, you know, it's Joe Douglas's guy.

So I think he sees something in a, up there. It's a crowded room full of rushes there, and they have good depth. Other than that, Jalen Carter on the defensive line side of things, made some noise. He only played like two players. but his first NFL play beautiful inside club and you know people in Philly they're going to eat that up the one pass rush win is like some wind in his sales man because like you you land a clean

rush early in preseason people get hyped about that stuff and you kind of feel like you're playing with house money you know a good preseason play performance that can that can get the fans behind you so I love seeing him out there love love oh Pat's Texans man Pat's Texans. I love seeing Will Anderson out there. We just had him on last week. Look twitchy. I thought he looked twitchy. I wasn't sure how he'd look on the field,

looked really twitchy, ended up, you know, factoring on a sack. He's turned at nine yards, quarterback climbs. There's a guy on the Patriots that people should keep their eye on. It's Keon White. He's a Georgia Tech kid. Huge frame, dude. The guy looks great out there.

He's a Bill Belichick type guy. I love seeing a young guy that's got like a guy that's got like a complete skill set in that system and you know I'm excited to see how they use them Saints Chiefs no Chris Jones no Chris Jones I mean that's that's great news that's like having the Hall of Fame game canceled you're like I don't have to do that Chris Jones is holding out he's just tweeting really really smart like wise quotes right now Trevor Penning's back speaking offensive line and Trevor Penning's back for the Saints he was out last year big maller type I think from what it sounds like down there,

he really has shown them a lot in the run game. He's a junkyard dog. He is a junkyard dog. But the past sets have improved. I mean, that was the thing that they were worried about. He's a little bit stiff. They get him and Ramcheck and tackle.

This is a big deal for them because I think this team, again, you look at Carolina, you look at Tampa, you look at whoever else in the South. I can remember Atlanta. I think Atlanta is going to be pretty good. I think Atlanta as a team is going to be pretty good, but who knows it, quarterback. They upgraded defensively. I love watching them run the football. I think they're really

well coached. Arthur Smith, great offensive football coach. So you're going to see them compete and be a real pain in the ass. They might be one of these teams that win like seven games. It's fun to watch the way they win, the Arty party. Yeah, but but he is fun. But nobody's going to be like Atlanta's a great team at the end of this year, but they're close. Like they're close to being good. New Orleans could be good. Now you got the Camara suspension. Derek Carr, who looks jacked right now, dude. He looks like he looks like he's on Balco, dude. He's on that Baker's on that Bayou Balco.

So anyways, I think the Saints are... He is Jacked. He looks good, man. It's just funny. But Saints Chiefs was interesting because the Saints had their ones out for a while, so you got to look at Trevor, you got to look at Ramcheck, all those guys up front,

Derek Carr. Justin Ross on the edge there for the Chiefs? Yeah, and I thought they did a pretty good job offensively. And if you listen to Ramcheck, talk about Trevor pending. The quote is, physically gifted, really good athlete, really tying all that together, big jump for anybody getting their strides in the right direction. That means, you know, it's still a topic. It's still a topic, right? And that building is like, how's the left tackle coming along and pass pro?

It's not just he's fun to watch. It's like he's athletic, he's big, he's strong, he's smart, he's kind. Mm-hmm. He looks great as you, you know. He's good Parker. We're tying it all together. Chris burped. Oh, it's so stupid to say, making 40.

Well, I'm sorry. My stomach's upset. Can we do it 17 times a show? The real quote is like, when you're a genius, you can kind of just make it look like that. That's like when people ask about Kalil back. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm like, well, when you're a genius,

you can just kind of get away with some things. It's an Oppenheimer thing. So you don't want people to know you're farting, but you fart, which is if you, if you, audibly. If you farted out loud and you were like, ha, that's funny. I'm farting. It'd be one thing, but you constantly fart and then you don't say anything. So then it's like the big guy on the airplane rule.

Whenever there's a fart smell on an airplane, everybody looks at the big guy, not you. Mm-hmm. You know, so that's kind of how you make us feel. I don't know. I just think, you know, you keep some things like internal. Yeah, sure. Not farts. Exactly.

You're not keeping fucking things. That's the joke. I made the joke. But, you know. I don't really have anything else. All right. Maybe I'll ask you guys this question. Yeah, making you're like, good days work.

Kishon Vaughn. 43 words. I'm out. Forty-three words over three hours, you know. Kishon Vaughn. Yeah, good player. Okay, good. Dantavian Wix, Green Bay.

Oh, we got a shout out Wix. Wix and Big Romeo. I didn't see the tape, but those two guys went off. Did you see the game? So highlights. That's all. That's all Wicks. Some highlights.

Yeah. Played well. Who else played well? Justin Tucker. They don't watch football in Newport, Rhode Island. They just watch America's Cup. The Saints have a kicker that looks just like John Fossil. Fuck.

Really? Yeah. That's brutal. No. He looks like Bill Burr. Hey, DJ Moore in Chicago. A little catching run about 60 yards. You know what?

There was like seven blocks that happened there. He didn't mention one of them. Last question for you guys, man. I just freaking flip the ball to DJ Moore. And some good blocking. Last question, guys. Unimated. August 15th, it's a very historic day.

First off is when we said, hey, Vietnam was a mistake maybe. Then we just left. Okay? Also the day that the Taliban regained control a couple of days. So like if you're the United States and you're thinking about doing something on August 15th, maybe sit it out. Chill. Vietnam, August 15th, what is the biggest mistake you guys have ever made? Uh.

Probably getting a DUI and having to switch sports and schools and coasts. Costs cost me potentially millions and millions and millions of dollars. And now I work on a football show with my brother when I could potentially be in Newport Coast. Just fucking playing pickleball and flipping my willy around. Looking at the ocean. I don't know. We're talking big mistakes here, right? That's a big.

Small one. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. All right, you go, making it. I don't know that, that,

that chocolate mint builder's bar about two hours back. I've been paying for your mistakes. Yeah. I'm real stuffed up. No real mistakes, though.

No. No mistakes. There've been plenty of mistakes. No, hold on, hold on a minute. Mistakes, mistakes. Hmm.

Skip. You can see. skip maybe fucking Bobby Oppenheimer over here just talking mistakes I don't want to say

I don't really because it would be hard to be like I made a mistake you're not capable of being like yeah this mistake I made nah I talk about mistakes all the time like what

all the time bad bats no I don't do that anymore the other day I accidentally sent the nanny text that said, babe, I'll be home soon. What else does it change for swimming?

Oh, there you go. You shook it loose. I sent my client to picture me on all fours in a bear costume. I tried to send it to my wife, my lovely wife, Kate. Yeah. And my mother-in-law and my sister-in-law to say, hey,

look, I did dress up for Halloween. And then when we're sitting there at dinner, I'm like, why is your cell phone not dinging? She's like, what are you talking about? I was like, I just text you the picture of me in a bear costume on all fours, you know, on the floor. And then I had sent it to a Kathleen instead of the cake.

And I had to try to unwind that difficult. One time we had a real estate agent who wasn't real good, wasn't you, obviously. Thanks. And Meg was like texting somebody about it, and she was like, yeah, that Rebecca is a real moron. To Rebecca. She texted Rebecca.

Yeah. I've done that. I've done that. Also, once told Charlton Heston in front of my dad that he was great in Spartacus. You want to see Howie Long shrink into a John Cena gift?

This is his favorite person of all time. I could see him. One time I hit Kyle with a baseball bat by accident. True. 36 stitches. In the head. In the head. Face.

Accident, though. Kyle, like, I don't need a ball. The ball's on the tea. There you go. They say some of the most brilliant people are born out of frontal lobe trauma from baseball bags. I just got a cost. I just got a Costco membership.

And because people that listen to this podcast are so mean, I no longer try to show my teeth in public because apparently they are large. And so I went with a no teeth smile. Also, I'm a young boy in the picture. It's my son. Isn't that a funny ass picture? That's a great picture you, man. But kind of a mistake though.

No, I should have shown teeth. Oh, that's awesome. That's not a mistake. All right. That's good, Makin. Thanks for sharing. Yeah. Y'all take care.

Don't make any mistakes.