Green Light with Chris Long - Patrick Ricard! Ravens, Lamar Jackson & Fullback Lifestyle! NBA Finals, Wild Rodeo, Bussin' Beer Olympics & Mailbag!

Episode Date: June 11, 2024

Strap up for the show today, Chris and Macon bring you a wild one from Studio J! We begin with recapping the first two NBA Finals games and Chris wonders if the NBA has a parity issue. We then breakdown the viral video from the Sisters Rodeo in Sisters, Oregon which saw a bull jump the pen and head out onto the concourse, leaving a trail of havoc. After we tame the bull, we step into the mind of Ravens fullback Patrick Ricard. He talks to Chris and Nate about the Ravens success and continuity under John Harbaugh, Lamar Jackson's wizardry at the QB position, becoming a fullback and his Pokémon collection. After Patrick, we rock a mailbag with some football and some not football being brought up. A wild ride, enjoy! (00:00) - NBA Finals and Parity in the NBA (22:22) - Hello to the Sisters, Oregon Rodeo (29:53) - Patrick Ricard on the Ravens, Lamar Jackson, Becoming a Fullback, John Harbaugh's Leadership and Pokémon! (58:33) - Mailbag, Elderly Woman Competes in Softball Game, Bussin' Beer Olympics and Donald Trump Submits Thought Provoking Question Want your Green Light Merch so you can look exactly like Chris and the fellas? Hit the website below and get kitted! https://stores.kotisdesign.com/yotehouse/products Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Send any Talent Search submissions to: [e-mail] Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgxWFAA-wuB7osdiAJyLOcw Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I play a fullback in high school, but in college, I just played defense. It was my first week OTAs. Kyle used to check just left and free agency to the 49ers, so the team didn't have a fullback. And, you know, I'm doing my thing as, you know, D. Lyman, and then a week goes by, and Greg Roman in the hallway comes up to me and just says, hey, like, would you want to try a fullback? And, you know, I'm on drafted. So, like, I'll do anything to make the team.

I'll be a water boy. I'll do the laundry. Like, it didn't matter. So I'm like, yeah, sure. And you said, all right, practice happens. The play gets called. Willie Henry breaks through. I knock him to the side.

I laid up on the mic perfectly. I was kind of smart what I did next. I stood next to Harbaugh behind the wine while we're watching plays. And he's just standing there. I can kind of see like the wheel start turning and it's had a little bit. He's like, that looked pretty good. I'm like, yeah, I used to play fullback in high school. He's like, oh, I feel like a natural.

I'm like, all right. Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. Thank you for joining us today. A great show and store for you. We've got Chris. We've got Nake and he's back from vacation. We kick things off a little NBA talk, a wide recap of the first two games of the NBA finals, and a little conversation about parody in the NBA.

Chris also gives a hello to Sisters Oregon, where there was a wild bull on the run at a rodeo. And then we welcome on Patrick Ricard, Ravens Fullback extraordinaire, does it all. Pancake Pat, as they call him up there in Maryland. And we have a blast. We learn all about Lamar Jackson, Ravens Culture, John Harbaugh, how Pat became a fullback and his affinity for Pokemon. That jazz fax up. Fax is on that interview.

He makes a quick appearance in and out. And then we end with a mailbag, Chris and Macon style. A couple fun questions, couple fun topics, NFL and otherwise. Make sure to jump over to our YouTube channel. We've got a good bit of fun over there. Chris and Macon played charades today. That'll be out midweek. Make sure to pop on YouTube for a viewing.

And a like and subscribe if you haven't already. Thanks for tuning in. We will catch you. Welcome to the show. Pat Ricard coming up. But first, have you been watching this basketball, Chris? This series sucks. Well, hold on a minute, Claire. We're going back to Dallas. We got what we've been told are the two greatest shot creators in a back court in the history of the game.

Who told you that? Stan Van Gundy, I think. Friend of the program. Yeah, it was Stan Van. Well, yeah, a week ago, we were calling Kyrie, maybe the greatest Robin of all the time. But now, like, if this series continues to go the way it's going, like maybe I'm like, oh, maybe LeBron was really good.

Well, here's the problem. If Jason Tatum's going to be that bad, and they're going to win reasonably comfortably. Who's the MVP? I mean, uh, he said Jalen Brown. Drew Holiday? Yeah. I think Janus is the MVP for getting Drew there.

The Royce White guy has been tremendous. Derek White. Royce White. That's another guy. Who's Royce White? He was drafted by the Rockets back in the day. It troubled into the duel. He hasn't had a great series.

Derek White, however, has been great all playoffs. But I guess the point I want to make is like, hey, it's game two last night. I know there was a blowout game one. And game two, a lot of times, you know, like you think Celtics, they've blown some of these early games at home in the playoffs and that sort of thing. So I'm watching. But then the game, it just, it means. The Mavs can't play fast enough. Boston just looks like the better team.

You know they're going to get on 2-0. I've got it on the small TV. I'm playing Madden during the second half of this game. And that's a problem. I mean, I'm not like an NBA head. But, you know, Matt last night was betting the Vegas Aces. Unfortunately. And turn the game off to watch the Vegas Aces.

The Sparks came back. I know. It sucks. They're a bad team. They're a bad team. All right. Hey, the Super Bowl, right? Yeah. You remember?

Yeah. Kate said, all right, let's have a little fun, $250,000 put it back in the thing. I can't get rid of this money. Yeah. I'm gambling. You're still gambling. I'm gambling. No way.

I cannot get rid of this Super Bowl money. And Daniel Gafford, seven and a half points last night? Yeah. It took until the fourth quarter. But that's what this is about right now to me is gambling. Now, for a lot of people, maybe they're big NBA fans and they're glued to the TV. I'm not talking to you. but I am saying like for everybody else, it feels like the NBA has a parity problem.

Like I don't want to boil it down to just that. It feels like in sports, we're always like, yeah, parity's great. And I love parity. I love the NCAA tournament for that very reason. I think football has a lot of parity, but then football has, like, great teams at the top, great quarterbacks at the top. It wasn't bad for football to have Kansas City and San Francisco in the Super Bowl this year. In fact, it was good for football.

The ratings were crazy. All-time highest ratings. All-time highest ratings. for the Super Bowl through all the NFL's dying off. It's not safe. They have people kneeling. You know, the whole thing over the last five to seven years, youth football numbers down, the whole thing, right? There's a lot to compete with. There was a pandemic. People still can't get

enough football. But basketball, for whatever reason, if you look at the ratings, are not great. And, you know, Matt was diving into them. I think the last time we had over 15 million people watching a finals game was like the Raptors Warriors series. Yeah, and it's never recovered since. It's never recovered. And I think when you when you look at parody in the in the NBA, we're about to finish a six year stretch where we've had six individual champions. Like you would say on its head, okay, if you were out for parity, job well done. But when you look at the ratings, people are not responding to parity. And personally, I'm not responding to parity. And I thought I would, but I'm not. If you look at the last six years,

You had 2018, you had that sweep, right? You had the Golden State Cleveland sweep. This is after LeBron pulled a rabbit out of his hat and beat the Warriors. A couple of years later, they get swept. Okay, 2019, you have the KD injury, and you got a candidate team, no offense. But it's just a weird vibe. You know what I mean? Yeah.

And we've got the pandemic on our front door. We end up with the bubble Lakers, which was weird. 2012, you were still feeling the effects of the pandemic. They moved the finals into July. You had two relatively small market teams, but you had a star. He had a couple stars, right? And so Yonis gets his ring. You fast forward to right now, I think part of the reason, and Matt and I were talking about

this, part of the reason is our friend Drew Holiday. And Janus sending him away for Damien Lillard. And I think they were the one team that probably could have challenged the Celtics and beaten them had they had their core. So I'm not saying every year, it's just like we're doomed to see a finals matchup that we don't want to see. And I don't want to speak for everybody. But I do think there's a systemic deal going on with weird matchups.

Even when you had the Boston Golden State matchup in 2022, it's a six-game series. They didn't light the world on fire with the ratings. And the same thing in 2003, five-game series. And now you got this garbage. So I think over the last five, six years, you got to figure out Twilight of LeBron's career, Katie getting older, not being able to stick the landing on finding a place to go win a couple rings. It's like a changing of the guard situation. Plus, you take into account the fact that the NBA made some changes in the last calendar year. That second apron deal where you can't go out and

spend on a mid-level player at like $10 million. If you're over the cap too much, you get penalized, right? Like in the past, you'd be able to go out and make these signings and cash in on a roster that might need one more piece. And they did that to respond to what Golden State was doing, which they were just criminally over the cap every year and they were burning up the luxury tax they didn't care about the money because they had an owner who was willing to spend and now the NBA is like well the other owners don't want to spend all this money uh we don't want to just get dominated by a golden state every year somebody who's willing to so they make changes like you can't send cash over in a trade and all this stuff is like fucking minutia to me but to Matt i mean like the game has changed uh with the way

they're they're dictating player movement and also the fact that like now like players prefer to do an extension and get traded and pick their suitor and of course when that when that suitor's picked the buying end of that deal they're burning up a lot of capital and they're fucking their house up to absorb this player look at the suns sons sons are up shits creek so i i you know not an NBA head but i but excuse me playing it's okay all right it's cool not an NBA head uh but somebody who loves like i can remember in 2010s i don't know if you would consider that the golden age of basketball in our adult lives. But with the 90s bulls.

The 90s bulls, but we weren't adults. So what I mean is whether it was the 90s, whether it was the 80s, the Celtics and Lakers, whether it was the 2000s when you had the Lakers early in the 2000s, then you had, you had LeBron in his first installment. He was the heel, right? He was the team trying to be a dynastic team in the Spurs. And it was fun because everybody could kind of like, we would just sit there with our jaw on the floor and we knew that that the calves probably wouldn't win the finals but it was fun to hope

they would and it was the same thing when the piston succeeded and beat the lakers like there's your parody but it's a there's a hero and there's a heel and it's the same thing with the maz beating the heat you know um the reason we remember that run it's not just because dirk was great and the whole thing but it was also because there was a team trying to beat a team that said they were going to win five six championships and everybody was like ding-nong the witch is dead it's a lot of fun and oh by the way it's a hall of famer who's four-time all-nbbae finally getting to cash in on his dream of being a champion right and doing it without steve nash and and it was just that those storylines are more attractive to me than the hey i don't know spin the wheel who's going to be who's going to be good this year and all

those teams you mentioned have like an all-time great superstar who had been through the ringer you know even jordan had been through the ringer against the pistons and like the current state of basketball kind of reminds me of the late 70s when we had a new champion every year we have like the last time it's happened the blazers the bullets and the sonics no iconic stars really like rip bill walton of course but nobody who you'd consider like the best player in the league now we're kind of having that repeat where it's like there's good players jason tatum's good look at dants is good, but they're not all-time greats like Magic and Larry and Michael. Am I the worst because I'm the guy that always wants parody and now I have parody and I'm

like, eh. Maybe not all parity is equal. Like it's not the same in every sport. I don't know. I'm kind of digging it. You are. Yeah. I mean, I get why dynasties lead to ratings because you either have super fans of the teams

or teams you love to hate. I mean, I have no reason to hate the New England Patriots or the Kansas City Chiefs, but you find a way. Yeah, yeah, they get on your nerves. And then we're at the beach this week, UVA family, yeah? Yeah. Well, nephew says he's rooting for K-State in college baseball because of Patrick Mahomes.

Right. Young man. Doesn't make any sense. No, at all. How old is he? He's 10. Okay. So I get that it brings everybody to the yard,

but I kind of like when everyone has a shot. I like when everybody's bracket. Nobody really fills out a bracket and in the NBA can't predict who's gonna be playing in the finals, except for the East. I just remember growing up, like, that was the way sports were, you know, for a number of reasons, but you look at like the 90s and the Bulls.

Like I loved Michael Jordan, but I can remember, like it was yesterday, I remember where I was for all those finals games. And this is 30 years ago, okay? Like, I don't remember where I was in 2019 when Katie got hurt. You know, like I don't remember where I was in, in 2020 when I was watching the bubble finals. You know, I remember where I was.

Yeah, it was probably at my house. Yeah, it was the pandemic. Yeah. But I remember exactly where I was when Jordan beat the jazz game six. I was at, I was at Philip Hoss's house. I was listening to the Godzilla soundtrack. They had cashmere on it. I learned, you know, about Led Zeppelin that summer.

You know, I can remember where I was when the Patriots got beat by the Giants. You know, that was the other end of it, where the heel actually won. And I could not wait to see the heel win because Al Groh was my head coach and we wore the Patriot socks. And we had all the sayings on the wall. And I could not fucking stand like the rest of the country, the New England Patriots. I can remember where I was when McNabb puked. I can remember where I was when Tyree caught the ball. There's just, I can remember where I was when LeBron did the unthinkable.

and the Warriors. Like I wheeled Whalen into the bar. He was less than a year old and we watched the game. You know, I remember where I was during the Heat series. It's just the, these series are going to be forgotten,

in my opinion, except for by the fans that really care about these teams. Yeah, I think that's fair. But your premise that this series sucks, does that change if they call a foul on Jalen Brown for the push in the back on the dunk that would have cut it to three points?

Possibly. Sure. Possibly. And if the Mavs steal two at home, like great. Then we're off the run. Series goes seven. Yeah, I mean, like look at the way the wolves.

Series went. You know, you never know. But they're not the better team. And that's the thing. You look at the Celtics now. I feel like the NBA is going the way of like, who's got the best team? Like Tatum's not, we had this conversation the other day.

He's not like a top five player. Whether or not you call him a superstar, I think it depends on what your definition is. But he's not one of these. guys that you're like, oh, that's Tatum's team, and you're looking for a Robin, you've got your guy. Like, they've built a team and they've developed talent. And I think as you look at the Danny Hurley thing, it's kind of, it's kind of like why the Lakers, if they are looking at a guy like that, would look at a guy like that, because it's going to be about developing the talent

that's already there, right? So I just, I think the NBA is entering into a weird time. I mean, certainly is changing of the guard with LeBron getting older and that sort of thing. And Katie, getting older and but there's also this design that they put into place that's going to make it harder for teams to get back and i look at this series as a prime example of like you've got one of the best five players in the world you have a big market team in dallas is big market too um and yet scroll up and look at game game one yeah and to speak to macken's point about like the competitiveness of the series so we had 10.9 or 11 million viewers in game one.

And if you go back to like 2018, a 4-0 sweep between Golden State and Cleveland, the last game of the sweep gets 17 million viewers. Yeah. So. Did you see... Teams that have been there before. Did you see Jalen put Luca in a freaking

telephone booth to potentially mix metaphors in the first half there? No, I was dealing with the kids in the first half. Luca was about to do Luca stuff, or was it Kyrie? It was Kyrie. It was Kyrie. Caii was doing everything, giving him everything he had in his bag, and Jalen just kept him in front of him.

And the minutia hoop stuff is entertaining and that Boston can defend all these guys straight up without helping and creating all those easy, open look, three-pointers that we saw in the T-Wolf series, where PJ Washington and all these other cats were just knocking down shots. So I mean, the games within the games,

I think, are very entertaining. It's always going to be there. If you love basketball, it's worth watching. You know, I'm joking somewhat about like not watching. You know, like I had it on my small TV last night. You know, I had it on my small TV. I'm playing Madden. You know, football first.

Faith family football. Yeah. I beat the 11,000 ranked player in the world. Wow. Yeah, did you really? I didn't quit. Nice. He said, I was running RPO's and that sort of thing.

And he said, this shit isn't even in my repertoire. You know? Do you have a ranking? Yeah, I'm like 25,000. 25,000. That's good. Yeah, no, it could be better. Well, it could be.

Do you have a goal? What was the score? My goal is to get in the top 5,000. Okay. The score was like 37 to 13. Wow. And he quit. Do you have to?

He quit. He quit. He said I was cheating. He quit because. because he had two high safeties and I ran a post route. Like that was the last draw. He was like, this guy's got to, he's glitched. Do you have to hear them talking on the other end? That's the problem. I haven't figured out how to mute people yet. I can mute myself so I don't have a conversation, but people talk to me the whole game and I just mute them. Yeah. Yeah, I mute myself. They're just talking to

themselves. Have you ever told somebody, hey man, listen, you're talking to Fletcher Cox right now. No, I haven't said that. I've played for the Philadelphia Eagles. I've been waiting to pull that card. Yeah. Not during a game where I'm getting my ass kick. Uh-huh. Because that just looks bad. 25,000, man.

Wow. Yeah, well, no. Even 11,000. I know, I know. I'm talking about you. Yeah, I appreciate it. Did you see how high your ranking went up? Ah, I haven't been back to the console.

Yeah. Yeah. So you're telling me you want to see the Celtics win this series and then win five more and then have somebody try to knock off the top of the mountain. Here's what I think would be really good for basketball. Anthony Edwards taking the next step. Anthony Edwards taking the next step. Winning a couple championships would be great for basketball.

I'd love to see a LeBron championship mixed in, like a on the way out championship. Could it be xenophobia? Like all these players that we're talking about are all Americans. I do think the game getting global is cool, but for some people it's weird, like the vista print all over the place, the sponsorships. By the way, Vista print being bigger than Bill Walton on their jersey.

Like, get the fuck out of here. But at least we finally put somebody's name. It's usually just a black striker. No, you're right, you're right. He's getting Walden. Yeah, Waltz. And like size eight times the Roman. And then, uh, I think it's actually sans-serra.

And then you've got, yeah, probably San Serra. And then you've got, you've got all these European players. And I got to tell you, just being honest, like Matt said this before the pot and he's so right. If Luca Donchip was from Indiana, everybody's going nuts. Like they're going nuts anyways, but they're going nuts. And on the other end of it, if Luca Donchic wasn't a white European player, I think there'd be a lot of black fans that would be more into it, too. It's kind of like a weird in-between where it's like,

I'm not crazy about this guy. He's not American. He's a white guy. Like, it's just, it's weird because the other day during game one, the leading score is like halfway through the game were both European guys. It's like Chris Staps and Donchick, and you're sitting here watching the NBA finals.

And I know I joked about white boy summer, but boy, does it feel like it's white boy summer. Also, Jules are back. Jewel's like the So electronic cigarettes Nate put that in the group text He's like maybe it is white boys on it Porzingis' first quarter

That was electric I mean he was like putting it into the rim From 30 feet out Yeah hadn't played in forever It was crazy And Luca yeah Luca is Is Ant taking the next step

Just in white European form And he's talking so much trash To the fans Yeah you just I gotta see one of these guys If one of these guys can get a win Over the next couple years they can write the ship.

You know, I'm not saying the NBA's broken, but what I am saying is like if Donchick or LeBron puts a feather in his cap before he walks out the door, or Katie gets another one, or just Tatum, just for whatever reason, doesn't capture the imagination of NBA fans. And he's an elite player,

but whatever it is, he's right at that Mendoza line for people that were willing to, like, you know, get in line for to watch an NBA finals game. I think it's fair, but what you're saying is you need a superstar leading a super team. Yeah, I don't know about a super team. Like there's a couple superstars.

It's either got to be that superstars team who has like, you know, kind of a narrative behind them. There's no narrative. The narrative with Jason Tatum is like, man, he didn't play well in the playoffs for a while, but he's also really good. Right? Yeah. Like there's no like when I read articles about legacy before this series, he was a footnote. You know, and that's not to say it's fair or unfair. But what I am saying is like people just don't get behind that narrative the way they get

behind the narrative of Luca or even a Kyrie, dude. Kyrie going to the garden, like they're O for two there. That would have been electric had he gone off in the garden. But it didn't happen. Yep. And to your point earlier, you mentioned heroes and heels being valuable. It doesn't really feel like we have. Oh, Luca, Luca's a perfect heel.

Luca's a great heel. No, he's not a heel. Oh, I'm hurt. Push him into that box. Oh, I got hurt. Yeah. Ah, my foot. My knee.

Now it's my chest. Putting a heating pad on my chest during the anthem, kind of disrespectful. Is it? Yeah. During our country's national anthem. Can I do my layup line? Please. Speaking of our country's second national anthem,

Lee Greenwoods. God bless the USA. People play that song a lot. That's where we at least we know we're free. Or at least we know we're free. Uh-huh. You know? Uh-huh.

Anyways, they're playing that song in Oregon at the Sisters Rodeo, which is in Bend. It's Sisters, Oregon. It's about 20 miles from Ben. Oh, so this is a place called Sisters. Yep. Okay. Hello! So anyways, they're playing, they're playing God bless the USA by Lee Greenwood.

And I guess this is like the warm up for at a rodeo and they're like, yeah, here are the bulls. And we're going to play some Lee Greenwood. And this motherfucker's just galloping around the enclosure. until he jumps out of the enclosure. And what you're seeing is a video of the bull, and everybody listening should see this video. And I don't know what you do with this video. Like if you apply it to real life in any way,

like maybe don't go to a rodeo or... Don't sit in the front row. Sit in the back row or don't hang out in the concourse because the second video is a video of the bull in the concourse. And in that video, the bull continues into the concourse and does some serious damage. Homegirl's got like a snow cone, and she just gets, look at this. Unsuspect.

Oh my God. Yeah, dude. This bull was fucking people up, dude. Do you notice what color that guy's wearing? Red. Maybe don't wear red to the bull. Don't wear red to a rodeo. That's one thing.

Another thing is she dead? I don't think she's dead. Everyone who went to the hospital with injuries has been released and is. Wouldn't she? Like, to the. I'm sorry. Don't you think this might be an act of defiance? Like, there's some symbol.

here. But yeah. How was the bull neutralized? I'm not really sure. I think the bull ran off. Still off? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, it was crazy. I can't believe, I can't believe that woman survived that. Oh, she's presumably survived it. Hey, you think you'd have a better shot at riding that bull or a mechanical bull at full tilt? This is the worst question ever, dude. Somebody asked this question before the pod. You can name. Obviously, it was me. I had, I have the worst. Well, I forgot. I forgot. It's known. No, I forgot. It was so bad he forgot. I forgot who asked the question.

Reed asked the question. Reed said, would you rather take your chances on a mechanical bull turned up to 10 or an actual bull? And as I understand it, a mechanical bull turned up to 10 is just the bull.

I want to be on the real thing. I want to be on the real thing, too. But that's not the less risky. I think the mechanical bull has a better shot at wrecking your back than the real thing. Really? I think you feel the motion of the ocean with the real thing.

Okay. Yeah. That's what I'm saying, because it, like, it'll... Well, I want to ride the real bull. The mechanical bull just spins you around in circles. I want to ride the real bull. Yeah. I saw a guy from Jackass do it.

Yeah. Johnny Knoxville. Johnny Knoxville. And he was fine. They've done a lot of things with bulls. They, like, painted themselves as rodeo clowns. Yeah. And we're on, like, a background and trying to see if the bull could see them.

Now, would you say a bull is a cow? No. Tell me the difference between a bull and a cow. Well, a cow makes milk. A bull makes other cows. So a bull is a male cow. Yeah. So a bull is a cow.

Yeah. Well, sure. I was just told a bull is not a cow. No, a bull is not a cow. Cows are technically older females that have had at least one calf. It are used for dairy production. All cows are female? Mm-hmm.

And bulls are technically older males at least two years old that are used for breeding. Every single cow I've ever seen as a woman. Is that what you're telling me? Pretty much. Well, probably not everyone you've seen, but the one that you, because you say, oh, it's a cow. But you're just misidentifying. The mammals that give milk are female, right? Yeah.

Did you know that you only drink female milk? Yeah, I guess that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, that makes sense. Pretty interesting. It's my, uh, my daughter calls me dad a cow. Oh. And, you know, a little bit of motivation. you know, to get back into the gym.

Perceptive. But I had to, there was a bull that was loose in my field the other day. Did you ride it? Luke had to wrangle it in my truck and I had to run after it and the whole thing and it would turn around and look at me and I was like, man, I don't know if it's worth it. It was my neighbor's bull. I bet you shouted out at some. I did.

Hey, bull. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Hey motherfucker. Yeah. Eventually we got it out.

But yeah, bulls are, our man. Bulls are male cows. Yep, you go. All y'all were wrong on that first answer, yeah. No, I was not. Okay. And all, all right, we'll listen back. We're recording, yeah.

No need. And, okay, all cows, cows are female. Yeah, we got this. Hold on. But there's an umbrella of cow, and then there's male bull and there's female cow. We're going to have to look at the... It is.

I can't think of a parallel. though. You know, because we're all humans. Right? Right? Male, female. About chicken and a hen. Chicken and a hen.

Okay. Are all hens chickens? Yeah. Technically, but, yeah. Okay. Now, tell me what a rooster is. A male. There's the difference.

Rooster and hen. All chickens, yeah? A rooster is, I think, different than a chicken. Interesting. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm not sure, though. This is good.

Yeah. This is the good stuff. No, I don't know that it is. Well, we trudged through all that NBA talk to get to the group. Roosters are adult meal chickens. Roosters. A rooster or cock is an adult male chicken. There's the difference.

There's the difference. A bull and a cock and a chicken and a cow. Right. Same thing. Okay. Hen. Yep. Same thing.

Okay. You know, they just don't have two things they call a cow. And what's the... They might call a heifer. Okay. You know? And what's the female... What's the cow name for a hen?

Do we have one of those? A cow. Big Mama cow. Yeah. Okay. All right. Or a heifer. Okay.

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How long does it take for a guy like you who gets in 25 car crashes an afternoon on a fall Sunday? How long does it take you to feel like better after a season? I usually take like a couple, at least a couple weeks off, start like pretty light. So around like Super Bowl and it all depends on my season ends. Like this. last year and it was super late. So it was a couple of weeks after the Super Bowl. But like I said, I just started really light and then I started going on the weight training, probably a couple of weeks until like OTA start. But, you know, usually my body feels pretty good. I've only had a couple surgeries. And it wasn't really like from football. It was just from like repetition,

just had torn labrums my hips. So other than that, I mean, I've been pretty good. When you play some more like Baltimore, of course, you know, this is what you know, coming from college, like, does it feel more like what you would imagine a college program feels like relative to other pro programs where things are changing all the time? Coaches are changing. The way of doing things is changing. Is it nice to come back every all season? And you guys have an established program with expectations lined up.

Yeah, I mean, ever since I've been here, it's been the same head coach. And he's definitely just, he kept the culture. It's been for so long, you know, it's like, you know, The Ravens, it has a culture, it has an identity. And I think that when guys come here, they realize that really fast. And they love drafting guys and developing guys and keeping guys for a long time. So it's definitely like, you know, every offseason, you just know that we're a team that's going to have success. And everything's already been here.

And the guys that we have from the draft or for agency, they'll just buy in because you kind of have to. That's the culture. We don't have guys that are me guys realistically. And, you know, our best players, Lamar Jackson, and he's, like, the most humble dude on the team. So, yeah, it's definitely a great feeling, you know, it's not like a new head coach every year, a new office coordinator. I'm going on my eighth year right now, and this is my third offensive coordinator. So it really hasn't been too much of a change. So, yeah, I mean, it's definitely a great feeling knowing that, you know, it's not too much of a change from personnel, from front offices.

You know, Ozzie Newsom was the GM here for 20-something years. because DeCasta has been under him the whole time. Now he's been, he has a reign. So, you know, it's definitely a first-class organization. And it's, you hear from guys all the time that come here and just say how different it is here. You talk about the change in coordinators. I thought Monkin did a great job last year. And big shoes to fill.

I mean, like some people, some fans might have been like, oh, you know, Greg limits us and that sort of thing. I remember when Greg was coaching the 49ers, when that offense was at their best, it was really scary and the same with you guys. But with Todd and the change. Were you worried that there might not be as much use for a fullback? Or did they give you assurance like day one that we're going to keep this thing alive, this thing going because you feel like a staple.

They like work you into different personnel groupings. Yeah, I mean, it was definitely a concern because, you know, he was more of like a pass, a passing coordinator. But for me, like I also have my hip surgery. The first off-season he was here. So I couldn't really show him what I could do. So there was a little bit of a concern. But at the end of the day, like, I know the point.

player I am. I know how versatile I am. I know how I can be used in so many different ways to when I started seeing how so I'm with the tight ends. That's my position group here. I'm not with the running backs because I do a lot of things that tight ends do. So like during camp and the OTAs when I had to watch, you know, seeing what they were doing and how they had to be used, I could see myself in those roles. And you know, I've always been a guy where like I have to earn my reps, you know, I undrafted. I played D-Line at first and then moving to offense. I had to slowly earn my trust, show what I can do, keep growing, keep learning, keep adapting. And it was kind of the same thing with Todd.

I had to, like, show them, you know, how I can move, how big and strong am, all those different things, and show them like, oh, do you use me here? You can use me here. So, like, you know, there wasn't maybe a little bit of concern at first, but I had a lot of belief of myself. And I was growing my seventh year. I've made numerous Pro Bowls, and I've been a great player in this league. And I think, you know, Greg Roman used me a lot of different ways that maybe other people

wouldn't have used me. So it was, you know, all up to him. But, you know, I think, you know, I played a good amount last year and I'm just building off of that in OTAs right now. Can you talk about how that switch came about from you playing D-Line in college and then getting into the league and moving over to the offensive side? Yeah, so I was undrafted out of Maine. And it was my first week OTAs. And Kyle used to check just a left and free agency to the 49er. So the team didn't have a fullback.

all they had was a rookie undrafted guy in my class and then a running back that were converting to fullback. And, you know, I'm doing my thing as, you know, D. Lyman, China went on, I went on reps. I think I'm doing pretty good, you know. And then a week goes by and Greg Roman in the hallway, he was the tight-dance coach, Ryan Gave coordinator at the time, kind of comes up to me and just says,

hey, like, would you want to try a rep a fullback? And, you know, I'm undrafted, so like, I'll do anything to make this thing. I'll be a waterboy, you know, do the laundry. Like, it didn't matter. So I'm like, yeah, sure. And you said, all right, you're just going to line up in the eye, and it's going to be, like, 90 lead. So you're just going to lead up on the mic. I'm like, all right.

So then practice happens. The play gets called. And Willie Henry was a three technique at the time. The ball snapped. He, like, breaks in the back field right away. And I play a fullback in high school, but in college, I just play defense. So, like, I have a little bit of background. So then Willie Henry breaks through.

I knock him to the side. I laid up on the mic perfectly. And I was kind of smart what I did next. I stood next to Harbaugh behind the wine while we're watching plays. And he's just standing there. Like, I can kind of see like the wheel start turning in his head a little bit. And he's like, yeah, he's like, that looked pretty good. I'm like, yeah, I used to play fullback in high school.

He's like, oh, I feel like a natural. I'm like, all right. And then from there, rest of OTAs, I just played D-Line. And like, I'm trying to make as a D-Lyman because we all know, D-Lyman, every team meets them. They get paid, like, the longevity is there, full-back. I was kind of like, you know, it's not as much. So, but I was trying to do anything to make the team.

So then once training camp hit, still my rookie season, I'm still trying to make it to D-Lyman. Nothing about, like, offense has really been happening. Probably, like, a week or two in training camp, they started giving me more reps on offense. And I'm just meeting with the defense. I have to go up in the mornings with Greg Roman while he's drinking his black cup of coffees,

and he has his chewing, and my stomach's turning, because it's all I can fucking smell watching clips of press. that he's showing me my new plays for the day. So that happened for like a week. And then second preseason game, I finally get snaps on offense. And I'm just like, it's in Miami. I'm just like blacking out as I'm playing. And I probably had like 10 plays.

And I probably had like five pancake blocks. And, you know, it's against like third string guys. But like I'm just trying to hit you as hard as I can. And it was working. NFL guys, man. Oh, yeah, doesn't matter. So then, you know, the next preseason game, in the same time, still playing D-Line.

I'm playing both sides of the ball. And pretty much ultimately, I make the team as a rookie undrafted. And then they completely move me to the offensive side of the ball. Like, no more meeting with the defense. I only met with the defense like in the mornings. My coaches are like, they'd give me like, here's the weekly game plan, study it. Because I still was playing defense. So, but like it was a huge learning curve of my rookie years because I had to really just like

learn everything and then do it against all these elite athletes. and being a rookie and like trying to learn navigate everything. So it's definitely a lot. But like, but yeah, that's kind of a long story. But it's a pretty crazy one. Dude, that's, I mean, like, what's the alignment that was the toughest to learn in the NFL? Because I'm sure fullback alignments, you know, where you might be split out, where they might have you, would be a little bit different in high school.

What were some of the toughest angles to learn how to capture gaps and that sort of thing? Um, it's probably like, I think anywhere being in the backfield and having to like insert on a linebacker and try to navigate through them and not running in the backs of guys, I think that took me a little bit of time. But then I understood just like it's as simple as like looking at the alignment. If there's a three technique, he's probably going to control the B gap, so I'm probably going to fit up in the A gap, stuff like that. But I think the biggest thing for me was just like learning offense, just learning formations, learning shifts, learning like. learning like what the why, the F, the Z is, and different personnel groups and how it applies to me.

How long did it take you to get in like your own repetition for watching tape, switching from defense to offense? Like, did it take you that whole first season or was it into like the second season where you really got comfortable? Yeah, I'd be sitting there like 20 minutes in, like accidentally watching D-Line,

forget that I was watching pullback. Yeah. I'd probably say my third year. Um, because I was still playing both ways my first three years, my third year is when I really, like, I think developed on both sides of the ball even more. And I was able to like dominate and then play a lot more. Um, but yeah, it definitely took a while. I just had to be like a sponge and just ask so many questions and like more from the coaches. You know, I had some, I had some good vests. But like, you know, they don't want to waste a bunch of time trying to teach me like the most big like how to fucking zone block and shit. You know, like, but yeah, it was probably my third year. What about with all the offensive line turnover this year? That's one place you guys don't have the continuity right now, but working new guys in, what do you think the most important thing is when a young guy walks into that

offensive line room that he has to learn about how to be a raven up front? Yeah. You know, we lost three starters, so we still had Tyler Lindelbaum and Ronnie Stanley. You know, I think the biggest thing is like playing with them are in understanding like how. he is in the pocket, how he moves. And I think when you're playing a guy like that, it makes you just want to play even harder and play to the whistle and all those things.

But, you know, we like to run the ball here a lot. We just got Derek Henry, which I'm very excited about. Yeah, dude. I think you just have to really learn the nuances of how we block things up and, like, how physical we have to play, because we are going to run the ball. I think it's kind of obvious now. But, yeah, I think we have good guys. We have a couple guys in the drafts.

who's been here. A couple of years and see that, you know, looking pretty good right now. And, you know, we'll see once the pads come on of how they really come off the ball, you know, and displace guys. I know that, like, a lot of things are game plan dependent and it happens, but I felt like in the Kansas City game,

you guys probably walked out of there thinking, we should have, we should have pounded the ball a little more. Do you feel that? And then can you take that lesson and apply it to this year when you're in certain spots? Because that is a strength of you guys. Yeah. I think kind of what I attribute to it was just Kansas City in the first half was just, you know, our defense was struggling a little bit to slow them down.

They were moving the ball. And when we had the ball, we were kind of stalling. We only ran the ball six times or running back. And we had a couple positive runs. But, you know, I think, you know, the general public would agree that, like, let's do what got us there at that point was we run the ball. We control the clock. And we have our passing game as well, obviously, to complement everything. but I think once you get one-dimensional, it's just, it's tough.

But yeah, I mean, I didn't even realize after the game how little we did run the ball, to be honest. Like, I thought we ran it a little bit here and there. But yeah, it's just, you know, if you look back at it, we definitely probably should have. But that's, you know, out of my control. Coaches do it. It was a weird game, too. It was just a weird game. You know what I mean?

And I look at, like, Lamar now, and I always said this, I feel like Lamar is very good at getting down. like he's very good at not taking the big hit, which not some guys don't have that ability. I'm sure for you guys, you'd like him to just run out of bounds as much as he can. What's that dynamic like in the offensive meeting room encouraging him to stay safe? And do you think he's as safe as I think he is? Because when I'm watching, I'm like, this guy really understands space. He's not going to take those big hits. Yeah, I think, you know, earlier in his career, when he's with G-Row,

I think he asked him to run the ball more as more quarterback-driven runs. for Lamar. And I think Lamar was just trying to do whatever he could to get yards and all those things. But I think as the years have progressed with Lamar, I feel like he doesn't run at times is 100% speed because he's trying to make sure that he can get out of the way, slide, get out of bounds now. And I don't think you see those kind of hits. And yeah, sometimes in meetings and if he kind gets hit, we'll be like, yo, make your eyes down. You don't want to see that at all. But he's He's always tough. He always gets up right away whenever he gets hit.

One of my favorite Lamar memories was Poop Gate in Cleveland. Can you take me onto the, can you take me onto the field? He's out of the field when everybody's confused as hell, what's going on? It goes back and shreds the Browns. It was like a shootout game, and it was like a, I think, a prime time night game. And he's all of a sudden, gets injured with something and I stand with Lamar

he was cramping so he's gone and then we have our second string quarterback in there for a drive and then he gets hurt and then like the next drive we're up we're having like Willie Sneed who's a receiver taking snaps to be our third string quarterback because we had no one else

and I I can't remember if Willie gets in the game or not or if like another quarterback goes in for a couple of plays but all of a sudden it's fourth down and you just see Lamar coming out of the tunnel like he's like Moses, the Red Sea's parting. He's just running through and he gets on the field and he just completes a fourth down

pass to Hollywood Brown for a touchdown and we take the lead back. It was pretty crazy. It was probably one of the craziest moments of that season. That was insane. I mean, here's the one for me because I've read this about Lamar recently. And I know that last year he came and he was beefed up. Like he was huge. Dude was hitting the weights hard.

And then this year, I've heard that he slimmed back down a little bit. Like, I can remember in my career as a position player trying to find that right weight for durability, for all that stuff. What's your favorite Lamar build? Man, that's a, I've never been asked that question. Do you think he should be 230? Do you like seeing him come in with the extra traps? Or do you like seeing him, like, looking like he can run through the tunnel? Yeah, I don't know.

I mean, honestly, he did look pretty good when he was all bulked up. I was like, damn, bro, he by his hard lead blocking him. me like how big he was looking but yeah he was he was looking big um i don't know i think i think the way that'd be good for him is just a weight that he feels really good moving and he can make guys miss and you can stay healthy i think you know he's looking really good right now and i'm excited to see how he looks when games are happening and he has to make guys miss um but yeah i don't it's a good question for a quarterback is like being a little bigger better for maybe like it's harder to get taken down, you can kind of lower your shoulder more.

But I think with Lamar, like, he moves around so much, so it might be better for him to have a little bit less weight to, you know, keep his endurance up during the games and have that little extra speed. Yeah, I'm excited to see slim down Lamar out there. I mean, the dude is just so fun to watch. And one thing that's apparent to me about him is a great teammate and a great leader. Like in the huddle, you can see sometimes that he really takes charge. Can you remember a situation where he kind of got y'all to snap back to

reality and get back on track where he's vocal. I mean, for for me personally, I remember it was a Tampa game Thursday night and like I'm blocking the perimeter and I get called for holding and he's just like cussing me out. But like in not in a bad way, but he was just saying like, man, like don't even touch him. I'm like, I'll just make a miss and all this shit. And I'm like, oh, I got to block him. Like it's my job to block him. I just help him a little bit.

But I'm trying to think of games where he just like. But he'll do that, right? I mean, he's like a real vocal guy in that locker or in that, in that huddle. Yeah, I can't think of like an exact game, but like there's times he'll come up a sign line. He'll come down to the O line and come down to the tight ends. And he'll just like start talking to guys and start just giving guys confidence or like telling him what he sees and those things. Like he's one of the most competitive guys I've ever played with him now. Like he just wants to win.

So like if something's not going right or if he saw something differently, he's going to get on the guy right away. like something like yeah he'll do it in the huddle but it's more on the sidelines of anything yeah i so one of the things i think was a strength for you guys last year even though you lose keaton and you know obviously you've had running back injuries in the past was having a justice hill back there i think justice didn't get enough credit for what he did for you guys like can you speak to the importance of justice and then how you see that running back room kind of shaking out next year with usage because you've got the big dog coming to town and he's going to help you're going to help you're up in the red zone and that sort of thing, but I love that the one-two punch that the speedy guy gives

you too. Yeah, no, I love justice. He's a guy that plays every single phase of special teams. He always does it. He never gets like, man, like, I'm a running back. I don't need to be doing the shit. But, like, he's very good at what he does in all those different roles. And then he's a back where he could be all down back, but he's really good in third down.

He's really good at pass protection and picking up reads and understanding of who he has to again where they're going to go. And he's a really good option out of the backfield. He catches a lot of balls and he usually will make one or two guys miss. And he's very explosive and he can really cut very quickly. Yeah, he's just definitely an underrated guy where I don't think gets enough credit just because of the backs that we've had. But, you know, we lost Gus Edwards and JK Dobbins. Both went to the charters where you know with two.

I know. Yeah. It's the L.A. Raymond's now, man. They got everybody out of there. What do you see with? Roman, like, for Chargers fans, it might be listening to this pod, like, what do you, what do you expect to see from those guys? Because I think they're going to be pretty good, pretty quickly with the quarterback they have. And then obviously, with the run game that he can

install. I think they're definitely going to be trying to establish a run game for sure. That's just kind of his MO is he's going to establish a run game and then play off the past. And he has a great quarterback. So I think you're going to see more of a balanced offense than maybe in the past, they passed a lot more. And especially with Jim, like Jim run the ball a lot in Michigan. So I think you're going to see that. I don't know if Justin can run that much. Maybe he can.

He seems like he's pretty athletic. So maybe you'll see a little more quarterback driven stuff with him. But yeah, I think I think you're going to see the ball run more, especially since they have both backs that run the ball a lot. Yeah, because it's kind of a, it was a perception that he couldn't run like a, it was antiquated because he runs the ball a lot, but it's still a pro style offense. You know, would you, would you say that they can still get all their pro elements out of his offense?

Yeah, I think so. I think it all depends on who they have as receivers. You know, if you don't have good receivers, then you're going to rely on the best players that you have, which is, you know, Gero loves his tight ends. He loves his running backs, and he loves his receivers. Just like if those guys can run the rights the right way, get lined up correctly, all those things.

And you have a quarterback that can throw the ball to him, then I don't see why you can't be balanced. He just loves to establish his game first by running the ball. Is it important for the receivers to be tough in that offense? Yes. You're going to be asked to block. And sometimes, like, in the past, we've had guys here with Gero that were mostly, like, blocking receivers. But there's nothing wrong with that.

You're going to play a decent amount. That's part of the deal. Yeah. And some guys might not love it, but, like, that's kind of how he does it. But, yeah, I think you can be used in many ways. He'll use you to your strengths. Tide, I want to talk to you about Mark Andrews. you spend every day with him.

What makes the guy tick? I feel like you don't hear as much from him. And then for me, having played, you know, usually staring that guy down, not watching him on TV. Like,

I don't know what makes him great, but he's always around the ball and he's always open. And I'm sure a lot of it has to do with him and Lamar's experience together. But what makes Mark great day to day and what's he like playing with? So he, you know, during practice,

like he wants all the reps. He wants to run all the routes. He wants everything pretty much. And he's so competitive. He's just like Lamar with a competitive level. And he's also like Lamar. And that's why they have so much chemistry because they're so similar. So like they both are competitive players.

And Mark and Lamar, they kind of play like streetball. You know, like here's the place. Here's the stuff. But like when stuff goes down, like you're going to figure a way to make a play. And that's kind of how they play off of each other. And, you know, like I said, you know, during practice, Mark's one of the hardest working dudes. But, like, when it comes to game day, he kind of changes a little bit.

He turns into Mandrews. Like, you don't want to mess with him because he's not, like, the same person. He guys like that? Mandruz is pretty good, right? Mandruz is great. He's just, right? He doesn't really get that on a damn t-shirt. Yeah, he's just like.

I don't like it as much as Project Pat. I appreciate it. That's the best. Yeah. Yeah, he just, like, he, like, flips a switch on game days, and he just wants to win so bad. He'll play every snap if he has. to. But yeah, he just loves the game, man. It plays with so much passion.

Who's an edge guy that you really like that you think's going to have a big year? Because I know you guys are waiting for that, you know, like to me, OA, any year now, it's going to be a big pop. But for you, you're watching these guys every day. You used to play D-Line. What can you tell Ravens fans about who might take a big step this year? See, it's a little hard at OTAs just because they can't really do too much. Yeah, exactly. Everyone kind of found out about Kyle Ben or last year coming back. from, you know, being off the streets and he has like 10 sacks, him and climbing.

Yeah, climbing's not here anymore. I think, you know, I think it's O-A, but I think also David Ojobo, you know, he's had a couple injuries that's kind of slowed him down a little bit. But I think both those guys, like, they have the skill sets. They have the ability. It's just a matter of them getting the looks and getting the confidence that they can beat any tackle in this league. But I think, you know, the biggest guy is O-A.

I think he's been the healthiest and he's shown a little bit more than a job at this point. But you just see how hard he's been working and like his speed. He's like 6, 64, 250 and runs like a 4-4 or something crazy. He can turn that into power, right? I mean, he can really get that, sink that long arm in there. Right, long arms. And, you know, I think he's going his third or fourth year now. I forget.

I've been here for too long, trying to remember. Yeah, it's running together, dude. Yeah. So, you know, I think he's gotten stronger since. you know, his first couple of years. So, you know, I think you should see a lot from a job. I mean, O.A. this year. Last football question.

I know Nate wants to ask you about Pokemon. So I'm wondering which of the rookies have impressed. You know, I know you got the Wiggins kid outside, and I've heard about a couple mid-round guys that have been pressed in practice. And keep it in mind that we should temper expectations with OTAs because you're out there in underwear. Right. Who do you like so far? You know, obviously, like, our high draft picks are they're looking great.

Like, it's kind of expected. It's unfair to say that just because they're rookies as well. But, you know, me being on draft a guy, I'm going to show a little love to it on draft the guy. We have a receiver. This last name is Waze, number 18. And I'm just seeing just like every day this man's flashing. Like, he's looking really crisp when he runs his route. He's catching all the balls.

He has strong hands. He doesn't say too much. He just puts his head down. He's constantly just making plays. And, you know, I think that, you know, I think he's going to, you know, make some noise in the preseason. I just remember his first name was Dayton Wade. Dayton Wade, old name. Wade, yeah.

I think, you know, I think he's a guy to look out for him. Okay. Nate, ask the way. All right. So my first question is, if you had to pick any Pokemon to play fullback, what Pokemon are you picking? That's a good question. Damn. Put fullback

It'd probably be like like Rydorn or some shit You know just like I was favorite Gio dude that's a wait Are you you're how into this are you Pat like do you collect and sell cars? Yeah so I I don't know what happened But like last off season you know you're just

Sitting at home just trying to figure out shit to deal I like somehow I think I was on Instagram And just saw like people ripping Pokemon packs So I'm like that's kind of interesting Yes And I think I like bought some And then I just like got hooked like just every day. So so you weren't like into the show like when you were a kid or were you like were you familiar with Pokemon?

Yeah. But you just weren't into the cards. Yeah. Like as a kid like I got a game, I had a game boy. I had all the games. You know, watch the shows. I think once I got into like junior high high school, it was like the cool thing to be into as much. So I stopped it.

Same with college. Maybe I'd play a little bit of like the newer games on like the digital. DS stuff like that. But it was really last year is when I got back into like collecting. I collected a little bit as a kid, but I haven't like most of my life. So it's been pretty new. That's pretty funny. There's a lot of NFL players that are in the Pokemon.

There's also a lot of adults that like you said that took the break. They were like, oh, it's not cool anymore. And then came back. Came back. It's really, it's a money thing. It's just like it. I think about it. I think about it like stocks.

And it's like people who are rich, you buy stocks and you forget about them. They don't do anything. And then all of a sudden, people like, hey, did you hear about that? Damn, that Charzard. That Charzard, that was worth $5,000. It's now worth $50,000. It's like, what? Hold on.

You guys. So, Pat, when you sell your first card for like $50,000, let me know. And I'm like, you know. But I need to see some returns here. Okay. Pat Ricard, love watching and play, dude. Good luck this year. And hope we get you on again.

Appreciate it, guys. Big fan of the pod. the only podcast I listened to. So it's been great to. That's my boy, dude. Congrats. All girl dads. Congrats on the baby girl.

Congrats, man. Thank you. Yeah. Now you're not going to have too many summers to sit around and be like, what the fuck do I do? I got to just got to save some for her. Yeah, save some for her. Yeah.

What's her name? Emerson, the nickname's Emmy. She's a little over two months now, born March 23rd. Did you learn anything yet about? being a dad anything click for you um yeah just 24-7 just you know it's that baby needs needs one of us at all times but you know it's definitely brought a lot of joy to my life so far the fun part starts soon when they get to be like four to six months old mine's 11 months old and I think we're going to get a scholarship out of this young big girl summer that's how I feel one piece of advice

take as many pictures as you can of your daughter and your wife hell yeah like just to have for her and like she'll appreciate that later. Dude, I just, my parents sent me like 30 minutes of home, home video from the 80s. At 1989, my dad on a jet ski with like tiny shorts on. Just bombing around like city boy,

never been in a jet ski. They're in the Colorado River. We got no air conditioning. We're in some trailer. It's fucking awesome, dude. Take videos, bro. Yeah, as many as you can. Yeah.

All right, Pat. Appreciate you, dude. Yeah. Thank you guys. All right. opening the mailbag hope you enjoyed Pat Ricard

I did especially the middle yep he likes the middle too that's where he goes right down the middle yep he's 300 pounds

yeah I can't imagine you don't have to get skinny full disclosure we recorded that last week that's why you all heard Dr. Fax on it yep that's true

Megan was at the beach how was the beach the beach was brutal really it always is you know the thing about the beach is nothing fucking changed

It's just water in front of you and then a couple little waves and you can't go in the water because of sharks. We'll talk about that in a minute. Okay, can I elaborate a little bit? I love the ocean. It's the only water I like and the conditions were great. Great weather, great crib, everything was nice. The issue was three kids at or under three years of age. Three-year-old wanted to run straight into the ocean. Two-year-old was terrified but wanted to face plant. into the sand, just Superman dat hoe into the sand all day long. And then the one year old was just melting in this little tent thing on the beach into the center of the earth. That's what made it problematic. I have a take.

When you have three kids, the best place to go is your house. For sure. Like, I don't know why we talk about any fucking vacation. We got home. You get to the vacation, you're just upset the whole time. And exhale. Yeah. These kids are really nice,

mild-mannered, soft-spoken children, you know, I tell them all the time, it's best to be neither seen nor heard, you know, and then they get to the beach and they're all upset. They're being seen and heard. Yeah. Over two. Yeah. Hold on. All right. So I drove, I drove, I don't know why I don't say their names. I drove the oldest one to camp this morning. And, you know, usually we have some conversation. But she said, Dada, it's so quiet in here. And I said, yeah, yeah, I guess it is. She says, I love it when it's quiet. I'm like, you're my kid. Oh, yeah, for sure. I love it when it's quiet. All right. Here we go, mailbag. This is from Nick Scroggins is the NFCE's teams overhyped due to the big media markets.

Nick, that's not a sentence. But I do, I do think so, yeah. Well, like right now or in general? Always. Okay, yeah. Always. Cowboys, 95. Yeah. Think about the Giants. The Giants shouldn't be hyped at all.

People are talking about the Giants, period. Right now, Giants are bad. Yeah. Commander did bad. Eagles, though, that talked about the exact right amount. Eagles are pretty good. Talked about a lot right here. That's the way it is.

That's the division, man. Same thing happens with the AFC North a little bit. It does. Very traditional markets. Cold weather football. I feel like more legitimate rivalries in the AFC North. Probably. Although don't tell that to somebody, NFC, East, like, no, I wouldn't say that. They're just different. They're city rivalries. And when the NFL expanded to four divisions, they kept the Cowboys there to preserve that rivalry.

Well, look. Even though it's geographically nonsensical. But yeah, the answer is yes, Nick. I just like the AFC North because all the games are 13 to 10. Yeah, me too. I love it. Yeah. Yeah. Rock fights. Okay. You have to create an NFL player, but you can only use current head coaches. This is good. Say it again. You have to create an NFL player, but you can only use current head coaches. Okay. I guess I heard you right the first time.

Am I choosing like different part? Body parts, I think. Okay. Yeah. So brain. Who would you, Brain. Dermico Ryan's.

I would just do Antonio Pierce. Uh, I don't think this is actually as good a question as I thought. Yeah. I would just, I would just, Dan Campbell. Mm-hmm.

You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. This isn't that good a question. Okay, next question. Kevin Stefansky, because he's so damn handsome. Well, you can take like Mike McDonald's organs. He's young. Yeah.

Which organs? All of them if you're creating a player, yeah. Again, Stafansky's head because he's hot. Okay. All right. Looks good, play good. This is from West Locke. This is pretty funny.

if the NFL started putting serious messages on trading cards what would the topics be in 2024 do you dad remember these from 1991 this card on the front there's a menacing picture of howie long looking peering through a face mask uh with his little cowboy collar which did nothing i don't know what that thing did and it reads think about it learn the facts and fiction about a modern, modern menace, AIDS kills. Whoa. Yeah, easy, Howie. And then on the back, that's a quote from him.

Yeah, there's no stats. There's no stats. It goes, think about it. When talking about what AIDS is, it helps to say what AIDS is not. AIDS isn't a gay disease and it isn't a drug user's disease. Those two groups of people have suffered the most from the disorder. AIDS can strike anyone anywhere, but AIDS is not, why I put this on a card? We have to get the Howie Long. This is a quote. This is a quote from Howie Long.

We have to get this card. The AIDS card? Yes, the AIDS card. Does anybody have the AIDS card? It's a dollar 50 on eBay. Can you order it? Done. I want people to understand. Can we get a couple or is there just one? We can get a couple. Yeah, I want to get it from Matt. He's a drug user. I don't want to get AIDS. I thought you were going to call me gay. No. No, not at all. It's also not a gay disease.

Oh, right. There's nothing wrong. No, what do you mean? Oh, right. I need to be edging. It's on the fucking trading card. You piece of shit. I was wondering who tore down that rainbow flag we had in the, in the atrium.

Atrium. A piece of shit. Are there a quotation marks? Can you hit that second slide, please? Holy Toledo. Yeah, it's a big. quote. Like he the quotation marks are doing a lot of work here. The worst

thing people can do is panic. Don't be afraid of people who are diagnosed as carriers. Also don't panic if you have AIDS. I don't think he ever said this or wrote this down. I think he could sue. Is this like an autobiography? Do we want to ask him? Kind of wrote it for him? Can you send that to him and see if he remembers? Dad, have you thought about AIDS?

Have you taken your own advice? It was a good thing to do back in 1991. You got to realize in 19, was that the year Magic Johnson? Yes. Contracted AIDS? Yes. I'll never forget where I was when that happened, dude. Same.

It was crazy. All right, motherfuckers. Where were you both? Not when it happened. I was in the kitchen of my parents' house. I don't know where I was when it happened. I had a crying fit. But I was watching my dad had a guest room with a brass bed that he liked to sleep in.

you know at night because he's he likes his own bed i understand that really hey preaching the choir here also can't get AIDS sleeping in your own bed okay but he was he was he was I was in his guest room watching the lakers and they were talking about uh magic Johnson has retired he has AIDS and if you want to know more grab uh NFL pro set card number 725 He's going to tell you everything you needed. Did your dad no magic? They're both in L. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, but he wasn't afraid of magic. Yeah. Because he... Maybe that's what motivated him to do this. You heard it here. It's an important card. Thank you, West Locke. What would we...

What would we talk about today? Street racing. Street racing, Rishie Rice. I think the firearms are a bit of a problem. Think about it. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Just run back the AIDS discussion. Really little gun. I'm done with it. John Morant. I'm done with this. Aaron Rogers, the deep state. Oh, an Aaron Rogers card that explains why the Fed needs to go away. It would need to be one of those crazy eight-part fold-out cards.

Size four font. Aaron Rogers, the card is just black. It's the darkness retreat. It talks about, it talks about, you know, like how great that is to sit in a dark room. I'm going to start making the Aaron Rogers card right here. Chris Jones. underwear that fit name a problem

I'll pair of player income inequality income inequality income inequality her cousins poor health care services um Tyrod Taylor

that's good uh Bill Walton the late grade well he sat out like Most of his career. A year because of the blazer. Lack of investment in education.

I had a teammate named and S.C. And S.B. was asked to draw where South America was on a map. And he put South America in the continent of Africa. He also, when we went to London to play the Patriots, ran down in the lobby in a panic the first day, found our team's security agent,

and told him to put the TVs in English. And when Steve Miller replied, yes, his name was Steve Miller, he replied, the TVs are in English. He goes, I know, but can you turn the accents off? Yeah, I'd like to put on that card. May I be fair? Beautiful soul.

Look at the shapes of South America and Africa. Pretty similar. Yeah. they're only an ocean away. It's almost like they could fit together. Yeah. Pan Gio. Yeah.

Wait till I tell them about bad idea. That's a thing. There should be a card that was just pangea awareness. William Hayes. Kyrie. Do you guys ever take a quick beat when thinking about you hear fiction and nonfiction? You got to think for just a quarter of a beat about which is which. Not at all.

I don't think, I think nonfiction got a bad name. I think it should be fiction and then like happened. You know? Have you been workshopping? Not at all. Not at all. Is this your... Sometimes I'm just firing on all cylinders like today.

Bro. You're just like you are the action bronzed and Norm MacDonald a ghost face killer. I don't know what that means. That just means people are going to accusing you are going to accuse you of biting Norm McDonald's... I mean, that was a Norm McDonald's joke. That's all...

That's my IP. You can Google it or whatever. That's from my brain. That's good. But I... The delusiness. delivery was incredibly Norman. Whenever I hear fiction,

not a four beat. I think it just should say happened. I don't know. I have good comedic timing. That's really good. I agree with you. I don't do. I've never had,

let me try it again. Do you ever take just a quarter of a beat with a word fiction? Maybe it should be fiction, and I don't know, like happened. Was that more? Yep.

Okay. Can I ask one from the world of NFL? Sure. So there was a clip that went viral this weekend of a charity softball game, an older lady makes contact and is trotting down to first base and then Brown's running back

John Kelly Jr. touched the base just before she got there. Is that a code break? No, this is the feminist thing to do. Why would she want any help? Why does she need more than 20 seconds to get to first base? Wouldn't it be disrespectful to allow her

to take first base? I think he's doing the right thing here. She wants to be included in the game, include her in the game. You can have a card talking about ageism. That's not a hard 90. That's a soft 90. Okay? Yeah, I agree with you.

Why is the grandma wearing number 69? Why is the grandma wearing number 69? The best is his celebration after he tags the bag. Well, the best to me is David and Joku seems even happier than the guy who touched first. The Browns, they're, although this is the right thing to do, they are China's team. dude, they're not. I mean, this is not America's team. This is, this is, uh, very un-American.

Michael Geddes, which piece of unnecessary gear equipment was always the most necessary based solely on vibes, i.e. sweatpants, arms, sleeves, jersey, tug, etc. All right. I can take you to do this. Because they really used to call me, maybe that cowboy, the swag king.

And it was kind of ironic because I wasn't that swaggy, but I used to always like make sure that I have my whole uniform straight. in fact some i would even consult for some guys on the team not white guys either they'd come to my locker and say how do i look like black guys yeah guys with swag yeah so uh anyways i would say i black is useless it's a little secret now wore a lot of it it's pretty useless it's solely to get you in a same line or to look cool like some guys like the really like uh and maybe for wide receivers it's useful but there weren't many times where I was like oh fuck the sun that's why I have paint all over my face like a moron

best eye black ever um okay another question did you like john randalls i love john randals okay john randall i believed him yeah you know what i mean yeah right it's got to be believable max crosbie we believe i believe that yep i believe that mark herslich herslich yeah i mean But the point is, if you're going to smear the paint, you got to be a tackler or like a big guy. Like Lane Johnson wears a lot of eye black. It can't be somebody who's carrying the ball or catching the ball. And if you're going to be doing that, it's got to be one strike. He's got to be one strike.

I just Googled it and SI published memorable eye black moments back in 2011. Did I make it with a mustache? You made a mustache? Oh, yeah. Where am I at? Well, I don't know you. I haven't found you. Yeah, but I remember.

Oh, not the mustache. That's like a dripping down chic. You're applying it. That's crazy, dude. There are two urinals in this photo. Yeah. Who took this photo? I have no idea.

Probably the team photographer just doing like pregame shot. An AP person. G. Newman Lawrence took that photo. And this goes off your equipment question, but Alec asked, what is the best and worst face mask you've worn in your time in the league? I always wore the same face mask. never changed some people tried to talk me into getting a visor um i don't think that works for white guys oh really no i don't think so maybe if you're a linebacker somebody really fast no you're right i don't think visors really worked for us correct it just doesn't look as cool um sleeves you got

understand some people you say hey why do you wear sleeves you're indoor because a lot of times the old equipment was so uncomfortable like the shoulder pads before i got like the michael bennett shoulder pads late in my career and then i'd just go shirtless under my shoulder pads but I would have I would have long sleeves on because your arms move easy and you know it makes you feel faster no rash no no but more than anything there's not the the pull when you move your arms like the pull you've got that that surface that kind of cuts down the abrasiveness but the problem there is you miss you miss tackles you know you slide down people's So when it was cold, a lot of times we put Vaseline on our arms to trap some heat in.

That's another thing. Like that's a swag thing, but it's also functional, keep you hot, cold games. But what you have to worry about is sliding down somebody's body like a stripper pole because you're all oiled up. Yeah. You know, these mouthpieces, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, K. Mek-K. Metcalf baby pacifier mouthpiece. Yep. kind of cool kind of yeah i think it's cool kids are my kids flag football team have them now like

michael irvin you would say it's not different than michael irvin what do he have like i picture like a big white one i was always dangling you know yeah but irvin had like 90 swag through and through he wasn't trying to be i mean i miss those loose sleeves i wish more guys were loose sleeves i think loose sleeves are super cool if they come back that'd be cool by the way look at just look at that dude he looks like a a blocking tight end now. You know what I mean? I do. Like that's a that's a blocking tight end. He fills out that 88. He's not in the camp. Yeah. Tell me what you know about the beer Olympics then. So last week you said on the program that you'd be going to the beer Olympics, but it appears you might not,

as Will Compton has been receiving pressure from his employer to cancel it in the wake of many celebrities canceling their appearances. So what's the point here? Will's boss is like, this is a bad look for us. We just shouldn't do it. He's like, no one to cut your losses. We're not going to make any money. Now it's just a barstool event. A fuck-around thing? Yeah, like,

well, that's all I'm coming to is a fuck-around thing. The barstool folks hating it is a way to gen up attention for it. It's the playbook. Yeah. I received the text from Will Compton over the last 24 hours that ensured me in the entire roster that it was going to happen. Now, I'll give you the backstory that I didn't give last week on this thing. I agreed to do this a couple months ago when Kyle was coming in a lot more.

Kyle's taking some time. But, you know, I'm a big fan of Will's. I think Will is really talented. And I've enjoyed hanging out with Will when I can over the last couple of years. And we've talked some shop. Like, he's kind of been going through the same growth process. We got in at the same time. So me and Will are boys.

And so, you know, he was like, yeah, come out of this thing. And I'm imagining it's in like Nashville. I'm like, yeah, done, good. And then I'm hearing it's in Vegas. and yeah, that's going to be a tough trip. But Patty Maroon's going to be there. Bissinette's going to be there. Football player's going to be there.

Pat Beverly's going to be there. He's on the roster. You think Pat's going to hate me? Probably. I don't think so. You don't think so? Why would he? I don't know.

You're always afraid people hate you. I'm not afraid. I just know. There's a difference. If I were afraid, I'd be like, I don't want to go because everybody's going to hate me. But, you know, if I had to guess, Right. Well, here's the point. Kyle was supposed to be my partner. Kyle had to drop out.

So I didn't have a partner. And I was like, hey, Will, I don't have a partner. Tried Bo. I don't think I can do it. You know, that type of thing. They're like, no worries. We paired you with Dean Blanino. Oh. And to that I said, no offense to Dean Blanino. I just don't know if he can delete beers, like, to the degree that I'm going to need in my partner to be competitive in this thing. Like I don't drink a lot of beer in 2024. I haven't been drinking that much. In my heyday, as in like six months ago,

or like when I went to Myrtle Beach like a month ago or when we go to Vegas every time, I can delete beers, like with the best of them, Feltz. But I can't, I cannot, no offense to Dean Blandino, and it's not an officiating thing, just an event with guys like Quentin Nelson

standing around there drinking beer. I just would feel like the washed up, retired NFL players, 250 now, deserves a better running mate than Dean Blandino. No offense to Dean Blandino, who I like, who I once tricked into sending me a cameo. I used to have a cameo account. I used to fuck with people and get them to send me all sorts of cringe videos. I got Trey Flowers, formerly of Detroit Lions and the Patriots, to send a video encouraging my son who keeps shitting himself on the football field that diarrhea is nothing to be embarrassed about. And I got Trey Flowers, admit that back in the day, he had done some business before the game.

What's up, Zachariah, Troy Flowers here from the Lions. Listen, man, we all get a little nervous sometimes, man. I remember my first high school game. It was coming from the back end, not the front end. You feel me? But, you know, once I got all the nerves out and realized that, you know, it's still just a game, you know, I went out and had myself a good game. And so, you know, I had Dean Blandino.

I forget what I got Dean to say. Oh, you know what it was? I told Dean Blandino that I was this guy and I left my longtime girlfriend or wife and I had had a change of heart and I wanted to get back with her. And so this video is from Melissa, I think. It sounds right.

Yeah, yeah. Dean Blanino says, I'm sorry. And Dean, I'm expecting. I'm like, Dean, can you send me a video that's got just like, hey, I'm big, my name was like Darren on, that was my alias i said big d loves you come home you know that sort of thing and dean opens the video with baby come back lying in the background and and he goes melissa when it comes to the

review of the breakup the call has been over yes yes yes yes come home big d loves you yes hey melissa this is dean blandino from fox sports and this is a message from jay and he told me that You guys broke up. And I know relationships are hard sometimes. But it sounds like things are getting better. And I just wanted to say, Melissa, that the ruling on the field of the breakup has been overturned. And after further review, you guys are getting back together. Come home. Big Jay loves you.

And he really sold it and gave me my $39.99's worth. And he was lightning fast back in 24 hours, just like they said on the app. So there's nothing I have against Dean Blandino. But on the low, I was like, Will, I'd rather just hang out with Dean. You know what I mean? We don't have to be teammates. So you know what Will did? What?

Big solid for your boy. Got me a generational beer drinking talent. Got me the juggernaut. It's me and Quinn Nelson. Wow. How about the finesse I pulled off to go from Dean, no offense, to Quinn Nelson? So what is this? Just two-man teams, two-person teams, drink a lot of beer?

I guess drinking a lot of beer and also... It's a beer Olympic event. So you go through like beer pong, beer bong. Beer, flip cup, uh, probably some cornhole beer thing. Are they going to bong stuff? Yeah, yeah. I'm sure. One time I bonged a hurricane.

I remember you telling us that. I used to do them on those. It's ridiculous. So in my prime, I would mop the floor with these guys, but I got to get back in shape. And so maybe we should, let's do a training montage. A training montage of you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, making used to throw down hurricanes.

Yeah. Yeah. Used to. Yeah, so he used to sit on a park bench too occasionally. Once. There's a lot of stuff we used to do we don't do anymore. Yeah. Bring one thing back that we used to do.

FIFA. FIFA. We used to play till 2, 3 in the morning, drunk as fuck. Get home from the bar, play FIFA, play one game. Oh, this is for this. Play two games, double or nothing. Play three games. By 3 a.m., we once had a bet.

that Macon would have to walk up this mountain in his underwear and no shoes if he lost the damn, if he lost the damn game. He won. We double or nothing. Another one I'm supposed to do a real estate ad for him. We never did that. We did another one where I was like, we take you to the bar on a leash. He lost.

We did that. We took him to the bar in a leash. I mean, jokes on me because I got a guy on a leash in the bar. You know? People were looking at you more than they were looking at me. Like, damn, dude. I know who the bottom is. Anyways, so I'm going to Beer Olympics,

and I think it's happening. I'm not going to buy into the fear-mongering that it's not. But if it doesn't happen. Nothing better than a canceled plan. I love canceled plans, but you know what I love more than canceled plans? Like a voucher to go back to Vegas. Right.

Later, having nothing to do with busing with the boys. If they cancel this, I'm going to expect a plane ticket to Vegas. Oh, right. Yeah. Well, and from your wife. So it's a wife voucher. Well, here's the thing.

She's going up to the beach that week. So it all kind of works out. Yeah. You know. Here's the Aaron Rogers trading card I made. Nice. Thanks. On the back, it's got a little like packet of plant medicine.

Like the bubble gum. Yeah. So I said, let me ask you a question. And he said, nobody ever asked this question. And it must because of MIT, my relationship to MIT, very smart. He goes, I say, what would happen if the boat sank from its weight and you're in the boat and you have this tremendously powerful battery and the battery is now underwater and there's

a shark that's approximately 10 yards over there. By the way, a lot of shark attacks lately. Do you notice that? A lot of shark. I watched some guys justifying it today. Well, they weren't really that angry. They bit off the young lady's leg because of the fact that they were not having to be. hungry, but they misunderstood who she was. These people are great. He said, there's no problem with sharks.

They just didn't really understand a young woman swimming now, really got decimated and other people did a lot of shark architects. So there's a shark 10 yards away from the boat, 10 yards or here. Do I get electrocuted? If the boat is sinking, water goes over the battery, the boat is sinking. Do I stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted? Or do I jump over by the shark and not get electrocuted because I will tell you he didn't know the answer he said you know nobody's ever asked me that question I said I think it's a good question I think there's a lot of electric current coming through that water but you know what I do if there was a shark or you get electrocuted I'll take electrocution every single time I'm not getting near the shark hey it is a good question did he just

described the 2024 election yeah is staying on the boat voting for Biden because I'm going to do the electrocution. I am too. I'm going to do the electrocution. I'm sorry. This is shark. Yeah. 10 yards away.

And I know, these people are crazy. They're like, oh, the shark didn't know. This is where me and Trump actually agree on something. The shark apologists got to stop.

They got to stop, dude. Yeah, you agree. The statistics you throw at me. Oh, you got a better chance of getting hit by lightning. Twice. That's because everybody can get hit by lightning. Not everybody's,

swimming in the fucking ocean now which is dope which has been discussed now you have you have no chance of surviving the shark attack that you die by shark that's the issue I don't know he didn't frame the question with much detail

yeah I don't even know because like in the O bit it's cooler if you die eaten by a shark than electrocuted for sure but you don't have a story like sharks not like sharks not on my death bingo card like and then you get and then you get I'd rather go grisly bear.

Excrement. It's like you're back to the, you're put back to the earth. I'd rather be, I'd rather be, I'd rather grizzly bear. It just feels more like natural, less less like gory to me.

I agree. You know what I mean? I can pretend like I'm fighting. If I'm in the water. Yeah. I'm dead. You know, like Hugh Glass went out

and it was a, it was really cool story. You're like, oh, God died by bear. You know, but dying by shark, gross.

I'm with you. Yeah, I'd rather get electrocuted. Yeah, I'm voting for Biden. Yeah, just totally. So I, uh, man, this Trump guy. He can tell a story.

I'll tell you what. Undeniably funny. Yeah. No doubt. But so is. People who aren't president. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.