Green Light with Chris Long - Patriots & Seahawks Advance To SB LX | NFL Conference Reactions

Episode Date: January 27, 2026

The Patriots and the Seahawks are the winners of the AFC and NFC Conference Championships this season and will meet in Santa Clara for Super Bowl LX. Chris and the fellas breakdown the action from Sun...day's conference championships and determine why the chips fell where they did. The New England Patriots went into Denver, in a blizzard, and knocked off the #1 seed Denver Broncos. Sean Payton and Jarrett Stidham missed a couple opportunities and Drake Maye delivered the knockout punch with a QB rollout. The Seattle Seahawks and LA Rams clashsed in one of the best playoff games in history, with the Sam Darnold-Jaxon Smith-Njigba connection proving the driving force to send the Seahawks to the final game of the 2025 NFL Season. Who wins SB LX - Seahawks or Patriots? (00:00:00) - NFL Conference Reactions (00:05:30) - Patriots Defeat Broncos (00:37:40) - Seahawks Beat Rams (01:00:15) - Super Bowl LX Lookahead (01:15:00) - Locals Landline Presented By Zone (01:25:00) - BetMGM Moments (02:07:45) - A Message From Chris Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline presented by Zone Nicotine and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open: ‪(202) 991-0723‬ Head to https://nicokick.com/zone and use code GL20 for 20% off at checkout. Check out Green Light's ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, where you can catch all the latest GL action: Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 But when it came to situational football, Mike Vrable continues to out-coach people. He's running away with coach of the year because he's got his team in the Super Bowl. Dude, expectations for coaches, like, have never been higher. You know what I mean? Like, teams are expecting to just hire these coaches and have them come in and instantly within a year or two, turn it around. That is not the norm, all right? Seahawks, they're a really good football team. The coordinator and the quarterback ace this contest, dude.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Welcome to the show. Looks a little different today Because we are all at home Because of a massive winter storm That dropped what I don't know how many inches of snow Cowboy Reed A hot little five or six
Starting point is 00:00:44 You know a little average But a ton of ice Lots of ice in America right now cowboy That's right Just just ponds on the road So hey thanks to everybody for being here. We appreciate it. We're rocking on YouTube and Twitter. Appreciate it. Jump in the chat with anything you see and go Broncos. Great season. Yeah, I can see the
Starting point is 00:01:10 chat's already warmed up arguing with each other about football. That's what we want. Guys, there are only two teams left and we've got a rematch of, I don't know what Super Bowl it was. I lose track. I want to say it was like 50 or something like, no, it wasn't 50. that was the one we were in. I think it was 48. 50 was Broncos. No, I'm tripping. I'm saying 49.
Starting point is 00:01:42 It's a rematch. And I think honestly, the NFL's happy with this rematch. I think these are two great teams. Certainly, that would have been, not to say the NFL had something to do with, I'm not saying that at all. I'm not being one of those, you know, glue sniffing people that think it's rigged.
Starting point is 00:01:58 But I do think this was the best possible outcome for the NFL. No offense, Cowboy Reed, to the Broncos. Reed, first off, how are you doing today? Doing all right. Doing all right. You know, kick the field goal. All we need to do, kick the field goal.
Starting point is 00:02:15 But great season. Nobody thought we'd been here or we'd be there. Two out of three goals. Sean Payton had three goals. Got two out of three of them. So, you know, feeling all right, feeling good. And I just want to say, if anybody's wondering why I'm wearing these sunglasses,
Starting point is 00:02:32 they actually block harmful light from my screens. And it was actually Dr. Fax who inspired me a week ago. Somebody was like, why do you wear sunglasses every day? And he was like, the lights in the studio are brutal. They are. And I was like, you know what? And my wife got me these shades that block, you know, the light from your screens and I wear them at night.
Starting point is 00:02:57 And actually, they're legit. So I'm just going to do it. And it's because it's the best thing for me. And you just got to make you just got to make sure you click out of the porn tab because you can see the reflection sometime. Oh shit. Yeah. Let me close that real quick. Speaking of that, speaking of that going back a few days, did anybody catch the crowd shots at the college football national friendship game? So great. Legend. Legend. Yeah. So anyways, if you don't like that.
Starting point is 00:03:31 like the glasses, you know, you can have all the significant physical, mental, and developmental issues, including eye, strain, neck, and back pain, and obesity, disrupted sleep cycles, increased risks of anxiety, depression, and social isolation that comes with screen time. It's not going to happen to me, though, and we are off and running. Should we start, do we have a dog of the day today, fellas? Dog of the day. any dogs out there making it through the snow how do willie and tony do in the snow they did pretty good um yeah they did pretty good i don't think they understand how cold it is
Starting point is 00:04:11 they don't want to come inside and tony looked like one of those people that um that surf um one of the great lakes you know where where they have um they have like icicles on their beards and shit like that's what my bulldog looked like he had like icicles coming down his face it's legitimately cold as fuck here And when you think about the weather, which I love doing, honestly, the NFL dodged a big bully. You want to talk about bullets the NFL dodged with Buffalo not winning that game because that game would have been New England.
Starting point is 00:04:44 And if you saw the shots of that stadium, that game was not happening yesterday. That would have been a full game blizzard, not just the second half of the or the fourth quarter. That would have been a full game. Yeah. Now, what we got in Denver was incredible. I mean, that's, I know Kurt Warner doesn't like this stuff, but that's football. And it's all about, you know, situational football in that, in that circumstance, taking care of the football, finding ways to win. New England did that.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Guys, should we start with the first game of the day? Should we start with the game in the afternoon? Is that what the people want? Okay. Which one are we starting with? Afternoon? Yeah, the early game. We'll do this thing sequentially.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Perfect. Listen, I come away from this game and I say, hey, the pats are battle tested. You know, they're battle tested. You know, a lot of people are going to question what they did or didn't do against, you know, this team, that team, who they didn't play. That stuff really doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:05:48 They're standing at the doorstep of the Super Bowl, again, with a second year quarterback in a team that had an eight and a half, nine win, win total. And a team that honestly, I think people had maybe in the wild card, very few people had them winning the division. I know Nate had them in the Super Bowl. I don't know that a lot of people had them in the Super Bowl. This is an incredible story.
Starting point is 00:06:12 And it's one of a team that is extremely well coached that underwent changes to the roster on the fly, right? Like reshuffling the safety room would be one, right? But I think as the season goes on, they did a great job of figuring out their personnel you know mike frable just got there figuring out who he can depend on who he can't depend on they didn't have a multitude of weapons outside they still don't they have a quarterback in drake may who's ahead of his years he didn't have a great game throwing the football yesterday but that denver defense is incredible
Starting point is 00:06:46 um i think through 28 minutes of the game until um stidham basically gave it away it was a game where you said it was going to be really hard to move the ball. And I think that probably informed Sean Payton's decision making in a way, I think depending on how you look at it, you could say, hey, kick the field goal or, hey, a touchdown's going to be, you know, a kill shot for your offense, which is, I think, what he was thinking. Listen, I think when you look at the pads and their run, you can, you can make it reductive as you want. You can say, hey, it was you know they beat justin herbert they beat c j stroud they beat jared stidham to get to the super bowl i i look at it the other way i look at it as sorry somebody would
Starting point is 00:07:37 i think nate was laughing but i agree with you chris like you're talking about them being battle tested dude think about this man their defensive coordinator like was ill and they had zack core take over halfway through like they have actually been through some shit despite their you know their schedule being easier than a lot of people, you know, being easier, whatever the fuck people have to say is like, they just got through an absolute battle for the AFCB. But here's the big thing. They, you know, and I'm sorry, Nate, if I'm interrupting you had a thought, but I think
Starting point is 00:08:08 I think playing four of the top five defenses in the NFL going, you know, like on this run, I mean, you're going to play, I don't know if the charges land in top five defensively. I think they did. you get the charges, you get Houston, you get Denver, and now you're going to get Seattle. So if they are able to pull this off, just an incredible run for them. And they haven't had to do it scoring 30 points a game.
Starting point is 00:08:36 You know, they're averaging 16 points a game, but they're taking care of the football when it matters, right? They didn't do that against Houston. They did it yesterday in a game where that was the name of the game, taking care of the football. Denver did not take care of the football. And you think about this murder, row of defenses they're going to face if they can win this thing.
Starting point is 00:08:53 I don't think anybody can really question where they are as a program. I mean, like, you can try to take it away from him if you want. But I thought Drake May's legs, I don't think, I know. That was the whole game. 10 for 65. Five of them go for first downs. I stood with the keeper, which I think is incredible when you consider it they let him do that with the footing being the way it was in that situation.
Starting point is 00:09:18 had the faith in them to execute it. I don't think that's like a situation where if you don't get it, you think you're going to lose the game because Denver was having a really hard time moving the football, but it certainly ices the game. You don't have to go back and punt the ball again. I think the biggest scramble the game
Starting point is 00:09:35 was that third and long on the decisive drive coming out of the half. And I got a shout out Ramandre Stevenson with a huge pickup on Zach Allen. They're running a little twist in there. And just to get enough of Zach Allen so that Drake May can take off with his legs. But again, didn't do anything in the first 28 minutes of the game offensively.
Starting point is 00:09:55 But when it came down to it, taken advantage of Denver's mistake in the red zone against a great red zone defense. When you have not been a great red zone offense, again, Drake May's legs, quarterback key, perfect call. Just a really well-coached team. And I think probably the biggest thing to me, guys, And I'm curious what you think is, does Sean Payton not have a weather app?
Starting point is 00:10:22 Because, and we can talk about that call. I personally think the call is the right one to go for it. I think it's the wrong play call. I heard somebody say this today. You go out 14-0 on that team. They're not going to beat you the way your defense is playing. I think it's the right call. I hate the rollout with one option.
Starting point is 00:10:43 It's design rollout where you're going to hit somebody in the flat. They're all over it. I thought they were having more success spreading them out, creating space for a quarterback who can run a little bit, you know, working quick game. I didn't like the call. But the drive of the year is New England at the half.
Starting point is 00:10:59 You know, we used to do a fly on the wall in this show. Where they all huddled around a weather app, you know, on that New England coaching staff, I wouldn't put it past them saying, hey, if we can put together a seven, eight play drive here, it's going to be the end of the game
Starting point is 00:11:14 because this weather's moving in. if you look at the shot when they take the ball to the half of the scoreboard on the all 22 and then you look at the next shot crazy scoreboard when they get it back it's a fucking full-on blizzard and so the gamesmanship the understanding of the of the assignment for new england and like you said like shouldn't that be someone's job to be paying attention to whether when it's going to do something to potentially affect the game whether it's rain snow sleet and for that reason like you said like obviously you obviously they just obviously didn't care or think about it or have that thought in their head. But I feel like if you do have that thought in your head, like, hey, this blizzard is coming. We might not see any more points. Like maybe you do kick that field goal or you're thinking about that. If someone on the sidelines like, hey, maybe we want these points. This, this snow's coming in.
Starting point is 00:12:07 And we might not be able to kick a field goal for the rest of this game. I think to Sean Payton's credit, like we're saying, I think that's all the more incentive to try to score when you have the momentum. It's fourth and one. Going back to what you said, Chris, to me, I think the play call is what I was disappointed. I can completely understand why, you know, you'd want to go for it there, you know, go up by two scores, capitalize on momentum early, you know, especially at home.
Starting point is 00:12:35 But like, I wouldn't have overthought it so much. Just run the fucking ball, man. And, you know, don't get me wrong. Like Denver is not, has not been a great running team. the Patriots have a really good run defense. But like they have a fucking Denver has a good O line. And to me it's like, you know, just run it right behind Quinn Miners. Do some sort of tush push.
Starting point is 00:12:54 It's, you know, that's that's to me what where I think the mistake was made. And I don't know. Like I just call me like an old school football guy. Like just fucking go downhill dive solid, try to get a yard. It's easy. It's easy to second guess it. And you know, people are going to say coming out of it. You know, I thought Sean costs them the game in other ways.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Can I ask you this real quick? Might I just think the thought process with it and everyone keeps saying, like, if you take the points or if you score a touchdown, it's still a two-score game. Like obviously one way you have to, they have to score two touchdowns. But another way, like, I mean, 10 points, you still have to get. Exactly. You got to score twice. You got to get the ball.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Like, you got to move the ball. And then what? And then what? When it's tied at 10 late in the game, it's a blizzard. and, you know, you, you, this was your best chance to win the game, to y'all's point. And, you know, again, I hate the, I hate the play call. You know, Bo would have, you know, pounded the rock. I would have spread him out.
Starting point is 00:13:56 I would have, you know, I would have spread him out, giving him a run pass option, latent the down, make them declare what they're in. But isn't that hard with a new quarterback, a quarterback that you haven't seen, like, operate in that? Yeah, but he's been in, he's been in Sean Payton's offense, man. I've seen him, you know, in that first half. But in game situation, Like, you know, I feel like you probably don't have the full playbook open to like what you're willing to try right there in that spot. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:14:23 I still maintain, and this is the problem with a guy like Stidim, who hasn't seen action in a couple years. What are you going to do when Biday can't cross the formation and get out into the screen action? And are you going to take a sack knowing the game situation? Are you going to throw it the fuck away into the second row? Are you going to double pump it and throw it backwards? eat it backwards. But as far as making throws, he made some throws in the first half.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I mean, like, you know, he had the yips. He missed the screen. The next play, you come back, you get man-to-man coverage, you take a shot, you hit it. He hit, what was it? I forget who it was.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Maybe it was a little Jordan Humphrey or Sutton, but it was an in-breaking route where he's under pressure. He puts it right on him. He's early on him out of his break. And, you know, he can't make the play. but there were some throws that he made on target. I would have trusted him in that situation to pick up the first down because they essentially did with what would have been an easy play to the flat.
Starting point is 00:15:22 They don't get Milton Williams blocked, and he runs right up the field. They come out and, you know, they go four-man front and they stem to an inside gap alignment. And that was the answer. I don't know if there was a check with me that you could have had. But I just think, like, to credit the Pats, again, taking care of the football.
Starting point is 00:15:44 You can go back and you can zoom in on that call. I didn't like a couple things Sean Payton did. The use of a time out late was a head scratcher. I thought, you know, on third down, and part of this is Stidham possibly, where Sean Payton wanted him to get down in bounds maybe before that kick before in the end of half. Now, the Patriots didn't burn them
Starting point is 00:16:05 because they weren't able to hit the field goal after the Drake May scramble, but you basically put them back out on the field, with a chance for a two-for-one in a low-scoring football game. That's terrible because Stidham ran out of bounds. It didn't end up hurting you. I thought there were a ton of spots
Starting point is 00:16:22 where Sean Payton got out-coached in this football game. Like, you know, I gave Sean a lot of credit as far as, like, getting a backup quarterback who he's familiar with ready to play. But when it came to situational football, Mike Vrable continues to out-coach people. And, you know, he's running away with coach of the year because he's got his team in the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:16:42 McDonald though, he's got an argument to make, Chris, but for Coach the year, but talking about this game, like dude, one thing I was, I guess, impressed that the Patriots defense did is just, dude,
Starting point is 00:16:53 they've been pressuring the fuck out of teams, especially in the playoffs. I had an old pull up some of these stats, but they got 49% pressure rate in this game. And that's, you know, just all pressures combined. Milton Williams,
Starting point is 00:17:05 you mentioned him earlier on that one play. Like he had eight pressures. Getting him back right before the start of the playoffs has been so big for them. but what I really wanted Noel to look at was like the blitz rate. So, like, Zach Coor is, he's kind of a new face, that defensive coordinator. Like, I feel like I don't really know him that well. And I looked up his background.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Like, he doesn't even have a defensive background, which is kind of fascinating to me. But anyway, he had a 38% blitz rate, which, like, they've been blitzing the fuck out of teams. Like I said, 32% in the regular season. And then when you get into the playoffs, 47% in the wildcard, 46% in the divisional round, and 38% in this game. Like, I just kind of like that, man. I feel like that's indicative of like, you kind of figure out your team, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:48 what defense you have, what's working, and just riding the hot hand. And then we can get a game like that against the Broncos with a pretty inexperienced quarterback in Stidham and all these weather kind of, you know, everything that's going on on the field. Like, I just kind of like that. Like, it makes a lot of sense to me.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Just blitz the fuck out of them. Do it, do what's been working and, you know, go from there. You're going into a game against, the team and we'll get to talking about the Seahawks in a minute here where their front is they're a motherfucker to deal with and uh you know i would say listen they've got pro bowlers the whole thing but i don't think they have one player who's far and away better than the the group i don't think they have like one dominant player who's like and listen i love the group i've been hyping this group up longer than than national media heads have i'm just saying that they don't
Starting point is 00:18:40 have the Nick Benito type guy, right? Now, I love Leonard Williams. I love Tank, but, you know, the Patriots have a group as well where Milton Williams is the lead dog, but it really is the sum of the parts. There's a lot of like role players who play really well in this defensive line. You mentioned guys like Durdon or Chase on or, you know, any number of these guys that just play Gap Sound, that play aggressive, that bring that get pressure on the quarterback. It's not flashy, but they're always doing the right things. I think it's another sign of just a gritty Mike Vrable football team, but when you talk about
Starting point is 00:19:14 the fronts and the front they're about to face, Seattle, who didn't get a lot of pressure last night, right, in the Rams game, May's been sacked 15 times in these playoffs. And that does worry me a little bit. Like even Pat's fans, I think, in this chat, who have been,
Starting point is 00:19:33 you know, they've been, you know, guns blazing since we turned this chat on, would probably admit that the offensive line probably makes you a little bit nervous. And I think of the run in the past phase coming in this game. But, you know, I think that's the one thing they got to get cleaned up is the protection. Because as you can see, when you play Seattle, now you don't have Devante Adams or Cooper Cup or, you know, multiple tight ends that can catch the football.
Starting point is 00:19:59 But you have guys that you can get explosives with. And Seattle can give them up. They gave a lot of them up last night. Can you protect long enough to take advantage? of those situations. So I think the matchup coming up, and we can talk about it more, but you mentioned the blitz rate. That's one thing that Seattle and Sam Darnold has to get in the lab right now and have answers for it because the blitz is the way that if you're going to win this game, you're going to win it blitzing the quarterback. Yeah, and going off that real quick,
Starting point is 00:20:27 Chris, Donald is pretty average against the blitz. I mean, he had a great performance last night, but 85.6 rating against blitz, which is 22nd in the league. So, like if I'm Sam Darnold, I'm completely expecting the Patriots to continue to ride that hot hand and Blitz and just get ready for that, man. Especially like, you know, some of the guys you got up front, Bradford get him ready for Blitz Pro.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Yeah. And you talk about special teams. Again, special teams factored in the second game. Denver now, you know, Will Lutz has been great for them. You know, I feel for the guy because he's kicking in the weather and everything. But, you know, the kick late in the game in the snow that gets tipped. I don't know if this is the case,
Starting point is 00:21:11 but I heard that they couldn't find the yard marker. And the angle of that kick was affected by the fact that they were a yard closer than they needed to be snapping the ball to the holder. And as you guys know, that definitely affects the probability of the kick being blocked. So you talk about like Denver being the team that made the mistakes in this game,
Starting point is 00:21:35 New England on top of it, taking care of the football, possessing the football, doing things like on third and long backed up, just throwing it away or running the ball and third down, knowing the situation, they do kind of, if you're like this anti-New England person, which I am not, you know, I am certainly not.
Starting point is 00:21:55 I think Drake May, for people that hate Drake May, like, what do you hate about him? Tell me what you hate about him. Like I know the pads were, you know, the big bad wolves for a long time and you thought you had a long break. And it turns out they're just, back.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I've never been a person even before I sign with the Patriots to hate the Patriots. The Patriots were always a team that I admired. In fact, I wrote an essay defending them in the Deflate Gate era for Players Tribune. It's fucking wild. I'm in the league and I'm defending Tom Brady. So I know that there's a lot of people that probably hate to see the pads in this spot, but I think it's good for football. If you do hate the pads and you do sniff glue and you think things are rigged,
Starting point is 00:22:36 you probably think the weather was rigged because it kind of felt like as soon as they went up, it was like a Buffalo Wild Wings thing where they moved that storm in and the Pats take the lead. And it's basically over. So you got to get used to it. This quarterback's great. He didn't have to. And here's the mark of a good football team. Your MVP quarterback doesn't have to be spectacular in a playoff game.
Starting point is 00:23:04 He doesn't have to be spectacular. He doesn't have to do it all by himself, didn't have to do it all by himself against L.A., didn't have to do it all by himself against Houston, made the plays he had to make. And the plays looked differently in the AFC championship. The plays that he had to make yesterday were not stunning throws or, you know, he didn't have to be pinpoint accurate in the passing game.
Starting point is 00:23:26 What he had to do was pick up yardage with his legs when they counted, and he did. So just a great, well-coached football team, and they deserve to be there. For Denver, I feel for them. You know, I do. I went through this with a backup quarterback. And, you know, we had a lot longer to prepare for that situation. Denver didn't have that kind of time.
Starting point is 00:23:49 So it kind of happens quick. And, you know, by Wednesday, they've worked themselves up into a frenzy. There's some momentum being built in the national media behind, hey, Denver can win this game. And they could win this game. You know, like, honestly, I felt like through the half, you're looking at it and you're saying, if the weather stays the way it was,
Starting point is 00:24:07 I feel like Denver felt like they had a good chance to win this game, and they did even in the blizzard. So for Denver, I wouldn't hang your heads. Denver fans, I wouldn't hang your heads. You need a run game sorely. And in this situation, obviously, you need your quarterback to be healthy in the football game. But New England earned the fuck out of this thing.
Starting point is 00:24:29 And here they are representing the AFC way sooner than I think a lot of people were prepared to see them in a game like this. You talked about Jared Stidham having some good throws. He played really well when he wasn't blitz, when he had no pressure. With no pressure, 16 to 21, 129 yards of touchdown when he was pressured, one of 10 for four yards and two turnovers. I'm proud of the dude.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Great. I mean, you pointed it out. He had a couple out routes. It was tough. He loses Pat Bryant in the game. Didn't have Troy Franklin to start the game. Cortland Sutton caught the touchdown, but then dropped a few. you know, down the stretch.
Starting point is 00:25:07 I am, as I said earlier, I am happy with the product we put out. Another shout out to Mike Vrable, situation right at the end of the half when Drake May slid for the, you know, with one second on the clock, barely a damn second on the clock. I know they missed a field goal,
Starting point is 00:25:24 but to be right there to call the time out, that's heads up. And then on the interception, we subbed late. We're late getting on the field out. Adam Troutman's running on. Nate Tice pointed, this out, but that allowed the Patriots to sublate. So they got their, their big boys on the field.
Starting point is 00:25:42 That and the ref stood over the ball, clocks ticking. That doesn't help Jared Stiddam. He's like, you know, oh my God, tick, tick, tick, tick, one second left, and they kind of have to hurry. And then he takes the shot. And it's a great play by Gonzo. We do have talk about an important play in the game. And obviously, I don't count myself as a glue sniffer. I don't think, I just think they got this thing wrong. I thought the sneakie was short. And I pointed that out yesterday. The only reason I pointed out is because of the very close parallel to a play we saw in the playoffs last year, where, you know, you're in Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Allen sneaks, everybody watching TV says he has it. There's a favorable spot. They go with the unfavorable spot. And truly, you can't see the football so you can't overturn it. You kind of got the opposite of this deal in this scenario where I, I didn't think Drake had it. And, and, you know, the spot initially on the field that I saw said, hey, he was short.
Starting point is 00:26:42 They give him the favorable spot and go to replay. You could see it coming a mile away. As soon as they did that, you could not see the football. I don't know where you guys landed on that, but I thought that was a huge play in the game, obviously because it led to the three points. I'm pretty much on your side, man. It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Like, it's just impossible to really tell on those conditions. But, yeah. It was a big deal. That's it. That's it. It's kind of crazy that they didn't get some home cooking. What the heck? Oh, you would think that the Broncos would get a favorable spot maybe in that situation.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Well, I don't know, but they fucked it up both ways, though. They didn't, they didn't continue. Now, it didn't end up hurting New England because they went in and scored. But they did, they blew the whistle on that fumble. And for anybody saying that ball didn't go backwards, just watch it twice, man. Just watch it twice. You know, like the ball went backwards. Listen, I think Stidham has a bright future in the league.
Starting point is 00:27:40 If he wants an opportunity somewhere else, like, you know, maybe one day he'll get it. But at the very least, he's a very serviceable, serviceable backup. But the one thing he couldn't do, he did. And that ends up really hurting this football team. So listen, love a snow game, love a rock fight. That was a lot. Love a Denver cover. Holy shit, my family.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I know, Reed, it's not much consolation. but you know you love my kids they love the fact that Denver covered whether they know it or not um and see it was go ahead i was going to say you see all the memes supporting what you say that think about a the don't if this game was in the dome it would have took away the elements and like and basically the main what the main catalyst of this game was the weather and imagine this game being in the dome how different it would have been but it but you're right but like Like, and there's no way to go, you know, you can't simulate that. There's no point in doing it.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I just think the thing you have to do is tip your cap to a cold weather football team who practices in the elements. And, you know, I know that, you know, when I played in New England, you know, Belichick would pour fucking water on the football. And it was freezing out. And, you know, he would try to knock the ball out of people's hands. And they had all types of, you know, we practice outside and the whole thing. Now, I don't know if Rabel's using that big, shiny.
Starting point is 00:29:04 indoor that I wish we used more into anything because it was fucking cold sometimes. But I think when you look at like what Houston did the round before. Now, Drake put the ball on the ground in that game. A lot of it was the rush and the weather and that sort of thing. But I thought Houston was, I termed it as disrespect for the football. Stroud did not respect the football. And in a game like this, Jared Stinnom does not respect the football. The Pats do the entirety of the game.
Starting point is 00:29:31 That makes all the difference. And I think another theme that's going to come up in the second game is the middle eight. We talk about this all the time. The middle eight. What does Denver do before the half and out of the half? Before the half, right? They missed the field goal. They damn near botched that situation.
Starting point is 00:29:49 So you get three going the other way because you don't fall in bounds on third down. Rush your field goal unit out and kick the ball with no time remaining on the clock. That's fuck up number one. Right. And it didn't burn them. The thing that burned them was obviously the fumble. and then out of the half, they don't see the ball until 543 left to go in the third quarter. And in the second game, which we're going to talk about shortly,
Starting point is 00:30:10 I do believe the game was won and lost in the middle eight. So, you know, it's like all these truisms about taking care of the football, fundamentals, you know, letting the other team make the mistakes. How do you play coming into half and out of the half? These are things that in NFL football buildings, coaches say every week and they prove to be the things that matter on the biggest stage. the Broncos had the ball for a minute 50 in that third quarter one minute and 50 seconds that was that drive out of the half was perfection run the ball run the ball run the ball and that big run right by Drake me or by Drake May I um the last thing you know you're just going back to the weather and if if Sean Peyton had the weather app or not I pulled some folks in Denver just to see you know hey what did you all think like did you know it was going to snow and I wonder if this factored in it all but the Denveronians
Starting point is 00:31:03 they were not they were like oh it's no big deal it's like an inch or two you know and I wonder if that had any effect on like hey it's not going to be a big we've been here for a while you know that Sean was thinking that he didn't take it as seriously if he did know it was coming anything like that but I'll share this is the this is what the broadcast put up it was in
Starting point is 00:31:30 in the fourth quarter they showed you know this is at the beginning of the game like first snap look at that nice clear field and then boom an hour and a half later 3 oh 2 and then cut to 3 5 minutes later blurry crazy 15 and then you have that and here's the thing the last thing I'll say about the call is and there's you know people are going to be talking about you know take the points take the points it's so easy to say in retrospect here's another thing that could have happened in this game the Pat's missed a fucking field goal that would have made it 13-7 and it wasn't a kick that you couldn't make even in the weather right so you know in that circumstance what would you have said 14 would have done it 10 would not um so I you know again I I I don't absolve Sean Peyton of his
Starting point is 00:32:20 decision making in this game but but it's not how it's not the decision you make it's it's how you make the decision in my opinion so um so Pat's representing the AFC in the big game. Shout out to Aiden and shout out to Pat's Nation. Congrats. Hey, really long, huh? Go, Patz.
Starting point is 00:32:41 I got something really random from this game. I don't know if anyone else notices, but especially in the fourth quarter, you see the guys with the snowblowers that are clearing off the field. There was one guy who just went completely rogue. It was doing like a zigzag pattern. Did anyone else notice that? It was fucking killing me.
Starting point is 00:32:56 It was, it was, I noticed it on every single drive. And it was fucking hysterical, I thought. Like, this guy was just bored as hell. Instead of it just blow it off in a nice, clean straight line. It was zigzags the whole way through. Who was that? The dude that was clear in the snow. It was so fucking funny, man.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Yeah, dude. That's a tough job. And it's a tough job to clear that stuff off before the kicker comes out there. And everybody's, like, frantically, you know, gloving that shit off. But, yeah, situational football, man. Situational football. This is got to be. This is in recent memory.
Starting point is 00:33:30 I can't remember as much weather in the playoffs. You know, coaches need to start reading the fucking farmer's almanac before, you know, it's going to be a wet winter. But we need to practice these things. We need to be ready for the weather because this year, winter weather came early. I guarantee Sean Payton for now on, he's always going to have the weather for the game. and I want and I want it by 30 minutes. Alerts.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Alerts on. Tog of that. Hey, Sean, take your phone. Tog of those alerts on. I know Mike had the fucking alerts on. Do you think, do you think that there was any issue?
Starting point is 00:34:13 I saw this going around some Broncos. We're talking about it, but was there any credence to Sean Payton maybe putting too much pressure on his team by saying, I'm not worried about Stidham. I'm not worried about Stidham. He's one of the, you know, he's one of the top.
Starting point is 00:34:26 He could play for another whole bunch of other two. No, no, I don't think they had to, there wasn't too much pressure. This is a game they could have won. Had they played better? I mean, like, when you say a team could have won, that doesn't mean they should have won. It just means that, like, it was possible for them to win this game. Like, you know, when you watch, you know, a team like the Steelers lose to Houston, you can't say they could have won the game, like, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:34:48 You know, like, but in a game like this, you could say, hey, we were good enough to win this football game. and I think a lot of people picked the Broncos this week. A lot of people said, hey, the Broncos can win this game. They're not idiots. They were right. The thing they were wrong about was the outcome of the football game.
Starting point is 00:35:07 And that's the thing. It's a three-point game. A lot of things go into a win and a loss and it's a 10-10-7. You know, to the people that said New England was going to win the game and, you know, calling all Denver fans or betters, idiots, although they covered.
Starting point is 00:35:21 You know, I would ask you, like, did you have it 10-7? Did you have it where Drake May was going to, it was going to complete like three passes for the entire first half and you're going to still win the game. Football games are funny. You have to be able to adjust on the fly.
Starting point is 00:35:35 And that's what New England did better in Denver. I'm sorry. I was curious about this from a couple defensive players. Will Campbell's blocks. Did you see those where he was kind of dive into to cut Nick Benito? Yeah, those are those are, those are fine. Yes. Yeah. I mean, he needs to get him down, get his hands down, right? Like, that's a lot of the point. Sometimes when a tackle goes cut protection on the edge, it's to get the hands down so you can work the quick game. And so, you know, and I'm not speaking to any, you know, specific instance. But, you know, I would say a lot of times when you see a tackle cut an edge player unsuccessfully and the quarterback gets hit or sacked, sometimes it's on the QB. and sometimes on not getting the cup block cleanly on the edge,
Starting point is 00:36:27 but a lot of times to get the hands down. I feel like to mix that in early too, just to kind of keep your, you know, put that in the back of a rusher's mind. You know what I mean? Like, you don't have to do that on all pass pros. It's usually like outside screens and shit like that, but it's a smart thing to do to try to slow down a good rusher early in the game.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Yeah, I used to like when you got the cup block, you know, I can play with my hands, but, you know, the truth is generally the ball is coming out. it doesn't, that's the problem. Right? So, all right. Well, before we get to the next game, we'll hear from BetMGM. Let's do it.
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Starting point is 00:37:56 which they did early in the football game and that Sam had to take care of the football right but he had to probably play his his B game is what I saw like you know through 12 quarters playing Shula he was atrocious I mean even a you know Sam Darnold supporter like myself would say
Starting point is 00:38:16 coming into this third matchup there is reason to put the governor on the quarterback, right? And just make sure that you don't put too much on his plate and you lean on the run game and you scheme up easy completions for him. But that wasn't the case in this football game. And I got to give them a lot of credit. And I think on top of just the confidence in a quarterback that I think a lot of people did not have confidence in coming in this matchup,
Starting point is 00:38:43 it's the self-awareness of a defensive head coach that says, hey in the second matchup we didn't have or the Rams didn't have Devante Adams they are up a past catcher and we gave up a lot of explosives to them I don't think that 24 points is going to do it I don't think that 20 points is going to do it if we want to win this game we are going to have to throw the ball around the yard a little bit with Sam Darnold and I think being down a corner for L.A. And this isn't an excuse, you know, there's people that are going to be, you know, hey, oh, you're making excuses for the Rams. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:39:25 I was on the Seahogs. But it's reality. When you have a corner down, you attack. You find Waldo in this game. And in this game, it was Darius Williams early and often, right? And I thought Sam made some huge throws early in this game. Like, just to go to that first third down. because early in the game,
Starting point is 00:39:51 I think the Rams are saying, hey, we got to sell out to stop the run. We got to stop the run. We got to stop the run. Make Darnel beat us, right? And third and five, the shot to Shaheed was a thing of beauty. I think it changed the game, right?
Starting point is 00:40:04 I think they're in robber coverage, right? So the safeties, his eyes are inside. He's looking for work. He's looking for JSN. You get the, you get the man to man outside. and they go right at Williams, which, which again was the theme of the day.
Starting point is 00:40:20 They come right back to him the next play. When he plays off, he misses the tackle. They're down in the red zone. And I thought Drive 2 was a thing of beauty. You get the run game going. You get your heavy personnel out there.
Starting point is 00:40:32 You get the Rams in their heavy base look where I didn't think they were very good. You get some guys on the field who are not great at fitting up run scheme. And I think, you know, they ran inside zone in a couple different ways. I think Kubiak, in this football game, cemented himself as a head coach. I think, you know, as an aside, I think Buffalo, who knows what they're doing,
Starting point is 00:40:56 he's got to be one of the front runners for that job. The way he schemes up the run game, what he's done for the quarterback, not that the quarterback wasn't great the year before in spots, but what he did in New Orleans to start the season last year, what he did on this big stage, he won the battle with Chris Shula, right? and you know when you have a quarterback who has turned the ball over maybe six times this season alone against this defensive coordinator and you go into the third game and you carve them up like this and your fucking nails in the red zone i think sam darnald nolan i had you look up his rating in the red zone what was his rating in the red zone yeah i'm pulling it up right now he had like i'm going to pull up the numbers of his um completions and attempts but he had over a hundred yards passing in the red zone zone. Sheesh.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Hold up. Sorry. No, you sent it to me. Hold on. I'll be going to find it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Okay. All right, I got it here. So darned on the red zone. 9 of 12, 107 yards, three tuds and a 141 passer rating. Dude, and that was the name of the game.
Starting point is 00:42:09 He made some great throws in the field. But in the red zone where the Rams faltered, the Rams faltered on third down, they had a million, explosive place, but they couldn't get, they couldn't stay on the field on third down. The Seahawks on the money downs and in the red zone were just better. And Sam Darnold outplayed Matt Stafford. As spectacular as Matt Stafford was, Sam Darnold, who's been the only quarterback in the
Starting point is 00:42:34 playoffs, take care of the football. I know we kind of said it jokingly last week where we were like, well, he's the best quarterback on the planet. He's the only one that didn't turn it over in the fucking divisional round. That trend continued into this, into this game. here, not being the only one that didn't turn the ball over, but this was as ambitious a game by a quarterback relative to the expectation as I've seen in the playoffs in a while. And I think he deserves a lot of credit. You want to be at the big boy table. He just played your way into it.
Starting point is 00:43:06 You got one more game with a chance to cement yourself as a Super Bowl champion. And I know the defense is great. But that performance yesterday was a win because of performance. The defense gave up 27 points. That was a win because of performance. We talk about guys you can win with, guys you win in spite of guys you can win because of. That was a win because of performance. And I think Sam Darnold deserves a lot of credit. After the game, they were asked, he was asked, how does it feel to be the first guy from your draft class to make it to the Super Bowl. And he was like, hey, I already made it in San Francisco. He laughed. But, but, you know, I love his attitude. You know, I love the way his teammates have his back.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Ernest Jones, guys like that. I saw a text exchange between Tank Lawrence and Des Bryant today. Des Bryant posted before the season. And Tank knew right away. You remember in August when JSN, who had a million yards yesterday, was like, dude, Sam? throws the ball before I'm out of my break. Like the decisiveness, the quick release, all that stuff. And all you had to do was see him do it in the big spots. And he finally exercised those demons and beat the allegations yesterday. And I couldn't be happier for the guy.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Seahawks are a fucking, they're a really good football team. And, you know, I thought, again, going back to the middle eight, that's where the game changed. because you get the ball before the half and you find a way to not just get points, you put the ball in the end zone. There was that sequence where both teams had it a couple times. And then coming out, the Rams get them to punt, right? And, of course, Rams special teams on their second special teams coordinator of the year,
Starting point is 00:44:59 find a way to fucking blow the game and just change the entire flow of the game. And the Seahawks took advantage. Again, you kick a field goal there. in the red zone, it's a different ball game. They don't. They go get points. And another thing I loved about Kubiak in this game was the intentionality of the motion, the intentionality of putting wide receivers in the backfield in funny looks.
Starting point is 00:45:25 He just, the run game, the multitude of ways you can get to different concepts. He aced this test. The coordinator and the quarterback ace this fucking test, dude. Yeah, I mean, I'm with you, Chris. to me it's like super excited for Sam Donald like there's not a lot of times you get the chance to kind of get redemption you know in the NFL and you know for him to change that narrative is great but dude you kind of talked about it man the special teams for the rams has been a fucking issue all year and it's so frustrating that essentially this game the nFC championship comes down to a special
Starting point is 00:45:59 team's error by Xavier smith in such a critical moment it's like god damn feels a little bit like we're kind of robbed of like an all-time finish I guess but uh you know that's just just how it goes, man. It's one play. Like, we all know that. And to me, that was, that was the biggest error. Just talking about the Rams real quick. I was very impressed with Blake Corum. I feel like he was really good, like out of the backfield, especially. I was looking up, you know, he had especially late in the game. And then he rushed well, too. So, like, I just want to give him some love because I feel like he was really effective. And then, like, I'm surprised you didn't hit on this the sequence with, you know, the taunting penalty, Rieck Wollin.
Starting point is 00:46:42 And then I guess, you know, I look back at that today and he was literally taunting Matt Stafford. And then, you know, I was kind of like, you know, you're at home, the 12s, like it's loud. You're really going to throw a flag on a taunting penalty. And I looked at it again, like it was pretty egregious. The ref warned him and I kind of told him to shut the fuck up. And then he kept doing it. And he was literally taunting Stafford.
Starting point is 00:47:03 And then Stafford goes right back at him. and like literally the next play Puka touchdown. Like you can't you can't make that shit up man that was just so fucking hysterical to me that was definitely that was a bird brain play what I didn't love was like seeing on ESPN like the the four box the first box
Starting point is 00:47:21 has dropped interception that it's you know the taunting penalty and then he gets burnt and then he's arguing with his teammates let me fix that for you great play on the ball on third down that should get him off the field, dumb penalty, and he gets beat for an explosive, like five other guys on this team.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Now, I know Woolen is a guy that's kind of in the crosshairs for them. He's not a great man corner. And, you know, also, McDonald gambled, and he gambled playing a lot of man in this game, and he was wrong. I mean, but I also think that he thought coming in, I know we're going to get beat on some explosives, but on third down, they were fucking money. They were money. The Rams couldn't keep drives a lot.
Starting point is 00:48:05 and there was tight man coverage on the field. Listen, Spoon got beat in some situations. Wooling got beat in some situations. They came right at Job. He had a fucking drive where he was Waldo. The one guy to me that I just want to say this, Nick E. Monwari, and we said it would be a big Nicky Menwari game.
Starting point is 00:48:27 He is the best player on that Seattle defense. Yeah. And he will be for a decade. he is like a fucking giant Swiss army knife and when you look at those two plays that he he's man coverage outside the numbers the first one on puka the second one on the back he's just he is there were plays on Devante Adams where Devante Adams running inbreakers and he's like
Starting point is 00:48:52 stepping on his toes dude he is incredible when he grabbed the ball and continue to dead play into the end zone just ran into the end zone before the half, I think. I was like, bro, I just want to see him. I go, maybe you should put in a package and give him the ball. Because he looks so fucking cool carrying the ball. He is one of the best athletes in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:49:13 And I think that was one of the things when you're watching this, you say, this guy's got Hall of Fame potential. And it's like L-O-B all over again, dude. It's a different form, but they have the secondary. And I think Spoon's awesome. Obviously, Wollins taking his lumps. Joe has been, you know, a play. doesn't surprise, but even worry is he could have played with those guys back in the day.
Starting point is 00:49:38 He is incredible. And the front, listen again, I'm not sliding them when I say they don't have a superstar. What I'm saying is they're all good. They are all good. They all make plays. And I think the the problems that they're going to cause for New England in the Super Bowl, it's run game too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:01 these guys are glass eaters on three downs, dude. And I think that's what makes them so tough as they play the run. They can pressure the quarterback. They did not pressure the quarterback in this football game, which is a little bit concerning. I think the Rams have a better offensive line than New England. I think even New England fans would tell you that. I think the big question coming out of this is like,
Starting point is 00:50:21 what could Sean McVeigh, the Sean's, again, the Sean's, what could Sean McVeigh do differently in this game? I think there were two instances where, maybe you go for two in this football game. And one time it was to draw within three. I think it was, I forget which situation it was, but there were two situations that I thought they probably could have gone for two. And at the end of the game, you might have some people that say,
Starting point is 00:50:46 hey, on fourth and four down in the red zone or whatever it was, you take the points, you cut it to a one score game. What are we doing? What year is this? We fucking, we never take the points anymore. I wouldn't have been mad at him if he had kicked and put all the pressure. on Sam Darnold, right? But the outcome of the next drive was,
Starting point is 00:51:05 and this was a huge drive, just being able to flip the field for Seattle and punt it to the Rams, so they had barely any time left. There were plays in that drive where Kenneth Walker catches a dump down, and he only ended up having like 50 yards rushing. They were big yards in the first half, right,
Starting point is 00:51:22 to keep the pressure off the offense. And then some big receptions by him, and then just having the confidence in Sam Donald to throw the ball, on second and long on that drive. And also the QB keep where Fisk is on him right away on third and seven or whatever it was. Yeah. Just to take care of the football.
Starting point is 00:51:41 It's another feather in his cap in this football game. Sam Donald did all the right things. Yeah, I think McDonald's one of them dudes to come out on top against McVeigh. And you saw that embrace at the end of the game. There's a lot of mutual respect between those two guys. Dude, it's been fun to watch these two teams play, man. mean, think about just like, you know, just the matchup of the Seahawks defense, like at home with the 12s against the Rams offense, like Matt Stafford, like aging gunslinger, like so many
Starting point is 00:52:15 good storylines. But I think my favorite thing is like just watching Pooka Nakua and then JSN. Like, we haven't really talked about JSN that much today because we're so used to fucking excellence from him, man. He had 10 receptions, 153 yards. But like, he's so fucking good, man. And that one-handed catch he had, that thing, he just stuck his hand out there. It's like, boom.
Starting point is 00:52:33 That's like one of those catches you make in the school yard. You're like, oh, my God, all you guys see that. And he does that shit routinely. Like, dude, you know, it's so fun to watch. Like, dude, they've been getting Shaheed going a little bit with that long reception. But Kenneth Walker is also a dog, like, pretty excited about these Seahawks. And then one thing I thought was fun, too, is just Cooper Cup. Like, he had a touchdown against his former team, you know, to beat them in the,
Starting point is 00:52:59 the NFC championship like that's got to feel pretty fucking good man you know that's good for him it was fun to see him he's just a vet on that team he's a good player still and a big conversion on that last drive where obviously you know at first i'm like damn did he catch the ball but i got to be honest as much as you want to be like you know oh we last week is a cidna catch this week it's a catch it's a fucking catch you took three steps like i understand that one um yeah i i i just think Seattle, man, all their wide receivers block, their route
Starting point is 00:53:34 distribution is perfect. You watch their route concepts and you watch like Philly, you know, like this year. And you're like, is this the same sport? Everything they do offensively has
Starting point is 00:53:50 intention behind it. And I want you to go back if you have access to the All-22 and watch and pay attention to the way they use motion. Pay attention to the way they use their chest pieces, including Shaheed on verticals and, you know, motioning JSON over to the same side and, you know, red zone scissors with JSN out of the backfield. Sam Darnold made throws with pressure in his face, dude. It's the final piece of the puzzle for this team. If he can do that on the biggest stage, they're hard to stop. They are hard to beat.
Starting point is 00:54:21 And listen, I'm just going to be straight up. I think. think they're better than New England. I do. Do I think that Drake's better than Sam? I don't know. He might be. But I think the team, Seattle, top to bottom is, and nobody should think that's a hot take. And they're favored in the game. I think this is going to be a really interesting matchup. But I think the team, Seattle, what John Schneider has built is really fucking impressive. The thing is New England's ahead of schedule and they're in this game. They're in this game because that roster, as much as I was lauding Josh Allen for dragging that roster as far as he drug it. And Drake's doing it in a different way.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Drake May is dragging a roster and Mike Vrable and a backup defensive coordinator dragging a roster that probably if you started the season, even with the infusion of talent through free agency, was not a top 15 roster. And they're here. And I think that's incredibly impressive. I agree. And that's something, too, like we didn't talk about that I was kind of impressed and kind of shocked with the Rams is that I feel like Seattle was doing what the Rams does do to everybody. And they use Puka like a Swiss Army knife and you put them in the back field for unfavorable matchups on the defense. And the way that Seattle was doing that to L.A. yesterday, I was just like, when you, anytime L.A. you guys put Puka in motion.
Starting point is 00:55:58 you kind of know 90% of the time the ball's going to him and Seattle was just kind of running that same kind of giddy up on offense. And it was, it's just funny to watch and be like, yo, as a defense, you would think at some point, like you can time some of that stuff up or kind of know it's coming because you're practicing against kind of like the same type of offense with the way they use Puka Nakua. But the way J.S.N yesterday just killed them, and they put them in the backfield to have those matchups on linebackers. That's the one thing for next week I'm really worried about, especially if spleen is hurt or whatever. I think that linebacking core, if they have to worry about having to man up JSN more than one or more than two or three times during that game, you kind of should be worried because those two or three plays might end up being crucible. No question. Great play callers, both of them offensively, Kubiak and McVeigh, and I loved watching that last night. It was, it was like an explosion of offense. And the rest of the playoffs has been like it's been hard to come by offense. And so for the Rams, like coming out of this thing, you know, I think it's going to be a very interesting offseason. Like, is Stafford done? Does he want to keep playing? Because he just played like a fucking MVP through much of the season. He made some throws last night. that were incredible to his standard. Devante Adams, you saw after the game, you know, the anguish.
Starting point is 00:57:32 He could barely answer questions. He's so crushed to be so close again. And for the Rams, man, they've been used to making these deep runs. So I think their defense needs some work from a personnel standpoint. You talk about like corners and getting you beat. I mean, they lost. They lost what is a Witherspoon a couple weeks ago. And it's kind of sent him into a tailspin.
Starting point is 00:57:59 You know, they lost Quentin Lake for a while. And obviously him playing in the slot, losing him during the season. I think it affected the way they played defense on the stretch. But also this vaunted pass rush, which I think is really good, right? And they run games and they play hard. And the edges are different, but very effective. You got Turner and Fisk inside. I'd like to see a little bit more depth in that group,
Starting point is 00:58:27 and I'd love to see the corner room get short up. Less need has some work to do with that defense because as the season went on, their front wasn't good enough to take over games. They're a very good group, but they didn't do what they did against Darnold last year. Same group, you know, and this is why when people killed Darnold after that Minnesota loss
Starting point is 00:58:48 against the Rams after the wildfires and all that, people wanted to kill Darnold and say he's never going to get there he's never he's never going to be a starting quarterback they were that that that defensive line took that game over that offensive line and I think that you know in the same vein we have to give credit to the the Seahawks offensive line yeah which I think showed great improvement this season gray's able big addition I thought the tackles held up pretty well when you talk about the edges they were going up against and I think the one thing that worried you going into a New England game is that that guard spot of Bradford, Milton Williams. Especially against Milton. Yeah, yeah. Camp it out in that spot. And I think the blitz, which we touched on, which Core has dialed up, right, in some really key spots.
Starting point is 00:59:36 There were spots in yesterday's game where, you know, it's Jared Sidham, and we're just going to say, hey, fuck this guy, dude. You're like, when I used to play for Greg Williams and he got mad, no, he didn't do that thing, he would, he would just hit the blitz button. And he would be like, you guys know what's coming. Zero's coming. Like, I'm just pissed off. And there were moments in that game where Core was like, hey, fuck this guy.
Starting point is 00:59:56 We'll find out how he handles the heat. I think he's going to do the same thing in some spots next week. So does Seattle have the creative answers for the Blitz? And I think this is going to be, listen, if you're Kubiak's job interview, this is the final test because you're going to see some heat. Yeah. Dude, kind of just changing gears here a little bit. thinking about, you know, I think you said this a couple weeks ago, facts, but we got Mike and Mike in the in the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:00:23 And I saw a tweet from JJ Watt that I thought was pretty funny. Something to the effect of, you know, with this new coaching cycle, there's still like, what, six or seven jobs open. And you look at McDonald, who's been in Seattle for two years, he's in the Super Bowl. You got Braves in the Super Bowl after, I think they lost 13 or 14 games last year. first season Super Bowl Signetti is in a second season at Indiana and they just won the national championship dude expectations for coaches like have never
Starting point is 01:00:56 been higher you know what I mean like teams are expecting to just hire these coaches and have them come in and instantly within a year or two turn it around that is not the normal right it's pretty cool to see all these young coaches kind of take command of their team and their organizations so quickly and
Starting point is 01:01:11 get them to the big leagues like that it's pretty fun to watch but definitely not not a typical scenario at all. Well, for Seattle, and you think about both these divisions, like, okay, you're going to succeed in the NFC West right off the bat.
Starting point is 01:01:25 You got Shanahan McVeigh. Yeah. Oh, you got Josh Allen's in the AFC East, dude. Like they're just, they've owned it for six straight years or whatever it is. No,
Starting point is 01:01:36 it doesn't matter. You know, and I think the infusion, the willingness to go for it, right? Like having the willingness to go for it for New England and spend the money and recognize that like, hey, this quarterback last year got lost in the shuffle as we were talking about Jaden Daniels.
Starting point is 01:01:51 And he got lost in the shuffle this year at times when we were talking about Caleb Williams, even though he was an MVP candidate. You know, but this is cashing in on the rookie window deal and to know what you have and to cash in and bring the right people in, the right culture. Same thing with McDonald. You know, he's not cashing in on a rookie deal, but to make the decision. and there was a lot like the Gino decision right like that Sam Darnold decision there's only one winner and there are multiple losers the losers are Minnesota big time you know right where you talk about like guys that did not enjoy that game yesterday Kevin O'Connell and Gino Smith and for the Seahawks to say hey we're going to do this thing and he's going to be our guy I mean fuck talk about nailing it. that you know first hand at the table dude unbelievable so um yesterday um you know again go go ahead say go ahead no sorry uh yesterday uh beating the bookie dot com on twitter said imagine telling sam darnal just five months ago after a 14 win season and 37 touchdown passes nah dude we don't need you
Starting point is 01:03:07 we're going to go with j j mccarthy we're all set nuts nine wild It's a tough deal. And honestly, it sucks because McCarthy got hurt in preseason. And I don't know how that plays out if he doesn't, right? Like if you see him more, if that competition is more of a competition, like maybe you know what you have or what you don't have with the young quarterback. And listen, they finish the season strong, right? He turned in a couple of his better performances late in the year,
Starting point is 01:03:40 but there's still injury concerns. and it's pretty clear to me who the better quarterback is right now. You know, not to say JJ McCarthy can't improve, but to me it's Sam. And as a guy that got drafted on a really shitty team right here, played a lot of years on a bad team. And I know the toll it can take on you and the way it can affect the way you think about yourself as a player,
Starting point is 01:04:06 Sam Darnold, everybody should be happy for him. Unless you're like a Jets fan. but even if you're a Jets fan, you should probably be happy for him, dude. Unless you're the, with a chance to play the New England Patriots, the team that had him fucking, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:23 we'll see. Did you see his quote? Do you see his quote after the game yesterday? They asked him about that, the seeing ghost comment, and he said, I almost forgot about that. So thanks.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Yeah. And he probably has because he's died three times since then. You know, like he has just, and he's been, he's been on what, five, six teams. You quiet as kept, you know, and it just goes to show you that the surroundings are so important in the way we think about these players and these quarterbacks.
Starting point is 01:04:54 And so good for him. The other thing that was funny in this game was, did you hear this? Tom Brady was like, yeah, it's loud here. The reason they call him the 12s is because they're like a 12th. They're like a 12 in volume. I was like, Tom, that's not what they're. it, nope, no.
Starting point is 01:05:14 No, it's that there's 11 on the field, and they're counting these people as one. And so they would be the 12s. I thought that was fucking hilarious, dude. But yeah, I don't know what else to say about this game. It sucks. We only have two games, guys. Early lean on Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:05:35 I like the Hawks. I'll say it. I'll start it off. I like the Hawks, man. I think you kind of mentioned it earlier, Chris, to me they're the most complete team. It really boils out to how Donald plays. He played his best game, you know, yesterday.
Starting point is 01:05:48 He continues to play like that. It's hard to see them losing. They're just so talented. Nate, I know you probably like the pads, don't you? I do like the pets, but I'm not going to lie. I really like the way the Seahawks just played. And like I was saying, if, if Spley isn't playing or like isn't, what, maybe 80, 85% like I think they're going to have a hard time when matchups against against the Seahawks.
Starting point is 01:06:19 So that's been my biggest thing with New England just is their linebacking core because I feel like they can. They do well stop in the run. But when it's getting into passing the ball and some of those linebackers have to lock up, it's been it's been shaky for some of the years. So I know I had the Pats going. And originally I said I had Green Bay winning, but I can see Seattle winning this game by, let's say, let's say four points. Yeah. Well, I actually, I do like the Hawks, man.
Starting point is 01:06:58 And again, like I know so much of sports media has devolved into like, if you don't pick my team, you hate my team. And I have. I've picked against the Pats this weekend. It was more about the spread. but I have picked against the Pats the entire playoffs. And, you know, like, that's not to say I don't like the team. We all know you're a bandwagon Seahawks fan, man.
Starting point is 01:07:16 It's all right. Banwagon. You know, I tend to follow my professional instincts, which is, if I say the Hawks are going to be good, I'm going to be anchored in that take. Like, and if they're in the Super Bowl, I kind of feel the way I felt about them all season, which is they're kind of a buzz soft, the quarterback plays well. And so I do think the Pats are going to win this football. game. But can
Starting point is 01:07:39 the, can the, can the Pats make it interesting? Can the Pats win this game? Of course. This is the dumbest thing. You mean the Hawks. Huh? You say, you mean the, you, you think the Hawks are going to win this game. Hawks are going to win this game. Yeah, you said Pats. Oh, did I? I'm sorry. Yeah. I didn't mean to say that. I think the Hawks are going to win this football game. It's just
Starting point is 01:07:55 it's, it's a question of, to me, can Sam handle the Blitz? If they have an answer for the Blitz, I think, and win this game. And the other thing is, I talk about the front. I think Pat's fans would tell you this offensive line has underperformed a little bit in the playoffs. And I think the thing that that's so impressive about the, the Seahawks is they are, they're all the way up and down the line, like all studs in the run game.
Starting point is 01:08:22 They have to rush the pass or better. You think about the matchups outside. Okay. You got Christian Gonzalez. It'll be interesting to see how you employ him. But you also have to worry about if you are, you know, the Patriots, you have to worry about Barner, you got to worry about Cup, you have to worry about Shaheed, you have to worry
Starting point is 01:08:40 about Walker out of the backfield. Drake May is not, and this isn't making excuses for Drake May, but he's not working with the same set of tools that Donald is right now. And again, I alluded to that with the roster. He just, and you know, on the other side of it,
Starting point is 01:08:56 they probably have more cover guys, Seattle does. They do. They don't have a Christian Gonzalez, but they're deeper on the back end. And so I do think Seattle in this in this spot but it's going to be a great game I think it's a one possession football game I saw the line came out three points um you know it's plus four and a half and total is 46 okay so I thought yesterday I moved down to three and a half has been the you know the the
Starting point is 01:09:22 the the line gets uh gets moved a little bit early in the week so I don't know which way that's going to go um I would assume that a lot of people think that's too many points um and the pat's Pat's contingency bets it down. I would wait until it got to like three and probably hit it. At this point, four and a half, like it's probably a no bet. There's nothing to tease it with. Not that you would want to do that anyways. You want to adhere to the Wong method.
Starting point is 01:09:48 You guys know about the Wong method. But I do think it's a Seahawks spot. So a question for Chris and Bo having played in the big game. One thing I'm thinking about is the game planning, especially about the defensive coordinators in this game and how you had that two-week advantage or two weeks worth of time to go through all the tapes.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Zach Corr with Sam Donald, he could conceivably watch every game Donald's play the last two years. From this point forward, take us through these kind of two weeks where it's like at what point are you back in the building and what day is the game plan typically installed? I'm just curious how much time the coaches,
Starting point is 01:10:30 extra time coaches spend working on the game plan for this game. I remember starting on Wednesday. Don't you remember starting early in the week, you know, early in the first week? I feel like we were doing good on good, like immediately. You know what I mean? It was like, no rest, boys. Like, we're fucking in it.
Starting point is 01:10:45 It's Wednesday. We're doing run pap, you know, like good on good. But I think it was more general. Like, I feel like I do know that we did a little bit more kind of recovery stuff, if that makes sense, like an emphasis on that first week of kind of, you know, trying to put your body back together after a very long, you know, football season. But we were, we are practicing kind of almost immediately. And then it, if kind of, I mean, you got to correct me if you remember,
Starting point is 01:11:14 if you remember differently, Chris. But then I feel like our game plan kind of slowly crystallized and then popped into place very, very early, like at the end of that first kind of prep week, you know, like Friday, Thursday, Friday maybe. That's, that's kind of how I think about right. That's just, that's just such a blur. man. Seriously.
Starting point is 01:11:34 You know, and the saving grace is the players that are banged up, they got two weeks to recover. So you talk about the recovery, but everybody, just a sense of like calm comes over the building in a weird way where, you know, it's just about the next game. And, you know, things get very like focused and, you know, the frantic feeling of being in the playoffs kind of subsides a little bit. And you have a ton of time. So you talk about like who the, who the coordinator.
Starting point is 01:12:03 are in this game. You know, Core, who has done a great job, he's going to have a long time to cook up this game plan. Same thing with Mike McDonald. And obviously, you think about like Josh McDaniels, who's been there. You talk about experience. This is the one thing that concerns me if you're the Pats. You've got a guy who's been in a bunch of these spots calling the plays for the offense. And everything that comes with it, knowing situationally what plays in a Super Bowl week, you know, how to prepare your team. What are the things that Bill used to do, right? You know, because I know we're in a post-bill era in New England,
Starting point is 01:12:39 and you're kind of like hoping to move on from that and give this group credit. But like, Bill had been there a lot and Josh was there for a lot of it. So, you know, having that voice in the building because preparing for a Super Bowl is more than just a scheme. It's how do you travel? It's how do you, it's how do you conduct your practices? Where do you conduct your practices? that sort of thing like and how much good on good work do you do during the week how how hard do you push the guys in practice there's a lot of different ways to to do this thing and and and i think having
Starting point is 01:13:12 josh in the building really helps for new england well yeah i mean to that point chris like vraves played under belichick like dude bill his kind of presence still permeates throughout that entire organization you know and i feel like uh you know the way they go about their business i I don't think it's going to be a ton different than from when from when Belichick was there. You know, I mean, I guess we'll find out. The one thing that was funny was, and, you know, the one thing that was funny was hearing RKK at the end of the, at the Vrabel speech where he was like, I got one thing to say. And he was like, I want to shout out this team for doing something that nobody else has ever done, which is winning nine games on the road. And that includes any build team.
Starting point is 01:13:58 And I think that's so impressive. I know he didn't mean it as a shot. I know that RKK probably wants nothing more than for Bill to sit there staring longingly at the TV and being like, fuck, man. But it is something that for all the great Patriot teams that have played in that building and got on a plane every week. And you talk about like winning on the road is such a, it's such a big boy skill in the NFL. They won nine games on the road. It's so impressive. here's the one thing that I saw this circulating a little bit
Starting point is 01:14:28 and so you know Drake May versus teams over 500 five games played 228 yards per game eight total touchdowns eight turnovers 89 pass a rating so you're gonna I'm sorry this is the way things go like we can all love the guy which we do
Starting point is 01:14:48 but you're going to have to prove it right or otherwise people are going to lean Seattle you know, because of the performance in some of those games. I do think Seattle is the better team. So we'll see. Okay. What do we got now, fellas? We got the zone landline and we're going to hear a word from zone.
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Starting point is 01:16:54 Now we've got the locals landline. First call. Let's do it. Do you guys think New England, their defense is going to be able to deal with the onslaught that Seattle's offense has? I mean, New England's offense is on the weaker side, so I don't foresee Seattle struggling with them at all. I mean, they were able to hold their own against the Rams,
Starting point is 01:17:19 but I'm just curious on what you guys think about that. So actually, I don't want to sell the pads short like they can't move the ball. I think they can hit some in cuts. I think they can go quick game on these guys. I think Drake Thomas was, he left the game in the fourth quarter. That's something to keep your eye on, right? So, I mean, I'm not saying they can't move the ball. The question is on the other side of the ball, yeah?
Starting point is 01:17:47 It's can the Pat's defense hang? I think it's the Blitz. Again, we keep coming back to it. It's, dude, all you. you need in a game like this is a well-time turnover, right? And if we've watched the playoffs so far, turnovers are everything. So, you know, it's some of these pressures that all of a sudden, you know, for instance, like the Rams, we always bring up the sim pressures where you might have an example would be Turner dropping out in the red zone and Sam throwing him the fucking ball right
Starting point is 01:18:13 there. Like, that's the Sam Darnold that the haters know and love. Will you see that guy? I think a lot of it depends on how how surgical you are in your blitz plan. But you've got to be surgical because if they get you blocked up, they have the guys outside to chunk off explosives. And they got the quarterback who's got the arm to make the throws like your quarterback. And Drake can make all those throws. So I think that's going to be an interesting one, the plan against the blitz. I know we keep bringing it up.
Starting point is 01:18:46 But if that's what you're asking, I think that's the key. And then we've got an Eagles. They're going to move the ball a little bit. I feel good about it. Got to get on the edge. Then we've got an Eagles caller for our second landline. What's up, Greenlight? The power, they called about a six times ball card weekend.
Starting point is 01:19:04 I apologize, cowboy. I was quite drunk. I'm going back now because I've sobered up in the last couple weeks and been able to think through my feelings. And I kind of want to be talked up a ledge because I'm starting to panic with this offensive coordinator search for the birds. It's starting to feel like next season's going to be a Nick Siriani hate watch. Why can't we get any coordinators?
Starting point is 01:19:26 I mean, I feel like Will Smith. Why don't he won't know what it's at me, man? Like, why are all these coordinators just quitting and leaving before we can even hire him? You know, Declan Doyle was dropped out this morning. Charlie Walsh, the St. at LSU, McDaniel, Babel, Sloick. This Nick Siriani sticking his nose in the fucking offense again and trying to make it his way. I just, I don't understand why this is such an unattractive job all of a sudden. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:19:54 It just feels like it's a panic time. Maybe it's not. I don't know how the coaching process goes. But hope you all are staying safe in this winter storm and are taking care of yourselves. I can take this a little bit, Chris, if you want. It's definitely an interesting question. I mean, can totally understand the frustration and confusion from Eagles fans on this. I'm just going to keep it a bean, keep it a buck.
Starting point is 01:20:14 I feel like, you know, when you, when you, I remember seeing some media buzzer around this. I think it was Ross Tucker says something along the lines of like, why would you want to take your family, uproot them and move them to a place where as a coach, you're going to be highly scrutinized. Your house might get egged like Petulos did, all that stuff. I think that's fair. But to me, I think it's more about seeing some of the limitations that Jalen has. I think some coordinators feel as if, you know, they're coming into a building where the starting quarterback has a ton of power and influence, which is rightfully earned, in my opinion, you know, Jaylen has played incredibly well in two Super Bowls.
Starting point is 01:20:51 But the fact of the matter is, you know, he is limited in some of the stuff that he can do. He's very limited in stuff that he likes to do. And I think his influence was definitely a huge part of, you know, the play calling that the Eagles had throughout the course of the season. So, you know, if you look at it like that, you know, as a coordinator, why would you want to go to a place where you might not be able to run the offense, you know, exactly how you want to because of the quarterback, you know, I know that the Eagles have said that some of these offensive coordinator hires are looking at, they're going to give them total control of the offense. But, you know, the quarterback is incredibly influential. And then I think another part of it, too, is just the nature of the coach, you know,
Starting point is 01:21:32 the coach hiring cycle. There has been a fuck ton of open positions here. You know, you kind of need to see how it all shakes out. You know, obviously there's still a little bit of football left to be played. But there's a lot of teams that are looking for head coaches. There's a lot of teams that are looking for offensive coordinators. in a highly competitive atmosphere. So that factors into it as well.
Starting point is 01:21:52 That's kind of where I'm at with it. Yeah, without being in the building, I don't know. Fuck, it does seem like something is being uncovered in these meetings, right? And I think eventually we'll know what that is. I think eventually these things get out. You know, it certainly could be Nick. It could be, hey, he won't loosen his grip on the. the offense. But had that been the case, I would have thought like he'd face more of a headwin
Starting point is 01:22:24 from the people in the building, like Howie and the owner, right? Like if your head coach is costing you opportunities at landing the right offensive coordinator, well, then he's got to get the fuck out of the way. So I'm not really sure about that one. As the quarterback, you know, Jalen again has his preferences. I don't know how much of this is. Well, I don't want to do a certain amount of things that you want to do. It's just. irresponsible for me to to sit here and say for sure that I know any of that so uh long long answer is we're not in the building but it definitely is starting to look a little funky um and it's becoming like uh almost like an inside joke in philly sports media and and on philly twitter and philly you know
Starting point is 01:23:09 at the water cooler where it's like dude what the fuck is going on here it's like a revolving door uh it's like the the simpsons meme where the the coordinator's wall walk in the door, they put their coat on the rack, they turn right around, they grab their coat, and they walk out. You know, that little giff at the bar. That's what it's starting to appear like for me. And it is troublesome because the longer you wait, the fucking the thinner the field gets, man.
Starting point is 01:23:35 And I also think it is perfectly okay to consider the prospect that you don't think the group's going to be that talented next year, like, not like in years past. and I think that might be the case and that's okay. They got to draft their asses off and we could be living in a post-AJ Brown world we could be living in a post-lane Johnson world we could be living in a world where Cam Juergens is more like the guy who was this year
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Starting point is 01:25:46 out her cookies on this flight. So imagine you're stoked. You're going to go watch your team in the AFC championship riding that JetBlue plane down to Denver and you walk on board and you get a bag of cookies from Anne Michael May herself. Pretty good flight right there. It's a good flight. Great flight. Nate hit that button. Yeah, hit that button, Nate. go best flight i'm giving it to malcolm butler flying from wherever he's at to san fran to rack up on all the appearance money he is about to make these next upcoming weeks leading up into the super bowl just because what happened in this last this last super bowl between them and the biggest thing
Starting point is 01:26:32 with p carroll should should you had run it should you have thrown the ball i just feel like we're going to see Malcolm Butler's face all over leading up into this game. And I'm happy for him. Best flight. All right. Nolan, your best flight. I'm going with Bo, the Ann Michael May flight. That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:26:53 It's a sweep. Tainers on that as well. And so am I. Good rip, yeah. Although I will say, I will say shout out to Mike Vrabble for giving the team no curfew last night. He said the only curfew is you have to be on the bus at 8 a.m. this morning. I disagree. That's bad.
Starting point is 01:27:12 They stayed in Denver. Yeah. That's incredible. That's a good segue into my worst flight. Sounds like a best flight, dude. I get, I'll go. Xavier Smith from the Rams, dude. Nobody, you're sitting in the fucking plane.
Starting point is 01:27:28 You make sure you're on last, well, it depends on where you sit. If you sit in the back, you got to get in there first. if you if you're in the front you get on last you try to you try to pass as few people as possible you make no eye contact with devontay Adams you make no eye contact with Sean McVeigh honestly you probably just disappear into the Seattle nightlife dude and just don't you know like you pull a who is the the offensive lineman for the raiders it disappeared before the Super Bowl Barrett Robbins or something like that you pull one of those and you just disappear because that's a flight I don't want to take, dude. Yeah, that's a bad flight.
Starting point is 01:28:09 You know what I'm actually going to pivot a little bit. I got a worse flight. And I'm going to say everybody in the United States of America flying, you know, in the East Coast over the last day, day and a half, I guess. I was curious. I just took a look at some of these flight trackers online. These flights are fucked, all right?
Starting point is 01:28:25 They are completely backed up. People are stranded everywhere because of this winter storm. A lot of tough flights going on. That's my worst flight. Anyone flying the last 24? out of this storm yeah you guys can have this i mean i was going to say worst flight rams obviously it's a good you play that one though because they all it's a lot of bad bad people that's a lot bad flights yeah everybody on the plane deal yeah because the only thing is how how far is that that's
Starting point is 01:28:52 not that bad of a flight though is it what probably no it's a couple hours it's not that bad of a flight yeah so yeah well straight shot um taynor says the hell yeah Tanner says the Storm flights. I am going with Xavier Smith and Nolan your vote. Xavier Smith as well. Hey, if you're in that situation, not saying that
Starting point is 01:29:15 any of you guys have been, but if you're Xavier Smith, can you still sit with like the same dudes you usually sit with? Or is it like, yo, I've got to just posting up against the week. You got to sit with the dudes you usually sit with. Okay. You got to find some comfort from your buddies.
Starting point is 01:29:32 Well, I know, but like What if you sit like across the aisle from Stafford by accident? Like that's when you know who your buddies are or not. Because like there'll be guys in that team. If we sat next to each other, if I was upset enough, I'll be like, hey, I can't sit there right now. Like I can't, I can't sit there for this flight. Bad team, man. I'm doing.
Starting point is 01:29:52 I do lift your teammates up, man. Come on. Sport your boy. It is fucking darkest days. It's darkest hour. It is a dark day, dude. It's a dark day. Beville Conway.
Starting point is 01:30:03 today is a dark day dude for that guy yeah um i mean like all right so he's making 877 a year do you you in the chat and this isn't a tone-deaf question because i know many of you would just say yeah i'll take it like would you take one year of xavier smith salary to be xavier smith the rest of his life fuck yeah i would not you're gonna blow that in the year I'm telling you, you're going to blow that. You're going to be Xavier Smith. What you think people? You think people are going to like, how long are they going to really care about this?
Starting point is 01:30:48 Like if you're not a long time. But only only if you're a Rams fan, right? Though like, no. Because I'm talking about being Xavier Smith and all this stuff that comes with like your football life. The reason people you remember you is because. of this and you're 28 years old you've been doing this your whole fucking life and now the rest of your life you're going to wake up i don't want i don't want to say it's every day but like many of the days you're going to think about that play maybe i overestimate how hard guys are on themselves but
Starting point is 01:31:23 like i said this last year with mark andrews when he dropped that football i was like bro no amount of money would make me want to be mark and he was a fantastic player but like the the mental toll that that takes to be the guy. But like, even with that, it's just like, I wouldn't want to be Mark Andrews in Baltimore. Anywhere else, I feel like it's, it's like, I don't know. I just feel like a lot of times football fans,
Starting point is 01:31:48 like unless you're a fan of that team in that city, like if that player is kind of walking around nonchalant in a different city, I don't think it's that many diehard fans. Like, yeah, no, I don't think it's about a fan. being like, hey, that's fucking Xavier Smith. He could walk down Rodeo drive. And most people are going to be like, who the fuck is that guy?
Starting point is 01:32:10 Yeah. They're not going to know at all. Yeah, Chris is talking about the daily personal anguish and the memories, the nightmares you have about one fucking play and the, you know, the defining factor that that has on the rest of your life. Yeah, that's tough. Dude, just mundane plays in my career and even in a winning Super Bowl run, I still beat myself.
Starting point is 01:32:28 Those are the ones that stick out the most, man. I can't even imagine. I can't even imagine. Yeah. All right. And also if you're Xavier Smith, you're sitting there watching, you know, the Rams playoff run here in three years or five years. And they're in the NFC Conference Championship.
Starting point is 01:32:43 And it's, hey, they've got to overcome, you know, this punt from X amount of years ago. Oh, yeah. They're good luck being the next guy fielding a punt in the playoffs that you're thinking about the last guy. By the way, that play made me think about how, I'm curious what you guys think about this. I think catching a punt is. underratedly one of the most difficult things to do in professional sports. Hands down. Across all sports.
Starting point is 01:33:08 Hands down. Especially in a night game, that ball disappears. Yo, we don't. Yo, it's funny. They do, they do an event at UVA games, catch a punt for what, like groceries for a month or like $500 or whatever. And, or it might be something more than that. But just a regular purse pulling someone out of the stands and being like catch a punt
Starting point is 01:33:30 out of a jugs machine. That shit is really hard. It's like it's very, very hard. Did you guys ever do that like big man, you know, has to have to catch a punt where you guys ever part of that in practice? Oh, yeah. Of course, yeah. And it's hard.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Like I definitely can do it, but it's, it's something where it's just like, oh, oh, oh, oh, I get a million dollars. Brandon Bostic. Somebody in the chat said, can you name the guy that botched the, botched the kick against Seattle for Green Bay? It's Brandon Bostic. We've talked about them in the show before. who offered a million dollars that guy thought about it every time there's a football game on
Starting point is 01:34:07 and you get to enjoy the football game brandon bostic is thinking about that game no i think i think it's because i think you think you think you think you and like certain people in the world have this rolodex of plays and players and and sports things y'all can think about but i think the average fan it's like you'll remember certain plays but like for brandon bostick yes like someone has to will have to remind you of a play for you to like remember and then you'll be like oh yeah i hate yeah we do hate that guy yeah no it's not it's not about the people on the outside of the anguish living in your own head okay that's all nobody's never like hey chris you should have you should have gotten a ball off brady by the goal line why'd you go for the sack
Starting point is 01:34:56 or like if you were if your arms were longer maybe you to strip you know like but i'm sitting here in my like nobody knows or like a play that I was out of my gap against like Houston and the fucking in the wild card round against knowing like those things really bother me dude you're like that meme of the guy in the in the corner of the party and it's like no one knows I still think about this sack I missed I do too I do I do I remember the feeling of being on the ground after a miss sack like in the regular season dude I missed a sack against fucking Washington in 2017 to open the season that was like Kirk Cousins dead to rights. I go for the ball and I'm on his back. It's like actually kind of a hard sack. I actually know exactly what player talking about. And I end up on his back and go for the ball and he just shrugs me off.
Starting point is 01:35:44 And I'm like fucking I'm fucking I'm beside myself. I'm still thinking about it. I woke up this morning and thought I'm just joking. I didn't think about it this morning. But anyways, you were on the train ride with me on the way home. Yeah. And I was like I want to die. All right.
Starting point is 01:35:58 I missed one against cousins on a fucking T.E. where yeah same thing we're like I won really early and I stack my alignment and then I had a lot of space in the pocket you know what I mean and he hit me with a skirt skirt and I fucking bounced right off I fell right off his back I think about it all yeah you feel stupid anyways really stupid I'm just glad to get that that win um okay devil conway is that what we got yeah devil conway I'll go with the snow on Evan Washburn's hair Washburn came out of a commercial and they went to him on the sideline and his hair was perfect but it was like frosted it was boy band frosted and credit to somebody in the broadcast for
Starting point is 01:36:42 calling him like an in sync guy or whatever it was but um i thought that was fucking hilarious dude he he his hair looked like the miss you know the wrestler the miss man so great uh yeah he looked pretty good. And then he did the little hair shake. Yeah, like tussled out of there. Yeah, that was a good moment for him, man. Jay J.J. Wach called, sorry, J.J. Watt called him the, so that's him. There's Evan Washburn.
Starting point is 01:37:09 Looking pretty hot and frigid. Why didn't say all that, but what I said is I said that it was sick, dude, like, like, it was awesome, dude, like, the fact that the game was so fucked up that the, the, the, the people on the sideline,
Starting point is 01:37:24 shout out to my brother, too, who was on the big desk. yesterday looking massive uh fucking those guys were dealing with the elements too when Evan washburn's dealing with the elements that means his football weather and he shook it off just like uh uh bow Nate I got my bevel I got Broncos Patriot fourth quarter the snow just the craziness everything the wind blowing I just feel like that's playoff football gritty game my bevel. That was a good view. All right, I got one, guys.
Starting point is 01:38:04 Mine is Fernando Mendoza's LinkedIn page. I fucking pulled it up the other day. This guy is such a fucking gem, dude. He did like, imagine winning the fucking Heisman
Starting point is 01:38:19 and then winning the national championship. And the first thing you do is update your LinkedIn page. That is just a hysterical concept to me. And I pulled it up. And he fucking is like, here's how winning the National Championship can help your B2B sales. That shit was so fucking funny, man. He had a pretty well-rounded out LinkedIn page. I just think, you know, in this world that we live in where, you know, there's a lot of athletes that aren't great character role models for our youths out there to have this fucking guy who just seems so pure.
Starting point is 01:38:48 And it's just pure ball and LinkedIn. Like, I just think there's something hysterical about that. So this is a great view for me. But what if he's a serial killer? He might be, dude. I like his when he said, here's what winning a national championship taught me about B2B sales. Kidding.
Starting point is 01:39:06 Kind of. Yeah, exactly. Kind of. Look at that hat. I think it's still available on Greenlight. It is. Go scoop it. Google me.
Starting point is 01:39:16 That's the Cignetti call line there. And you get the cigarette on the side. We actually, as you see, Nate just smelled the hat. I actually like cigarettes. I was just about to say. It kind of smells like marble. What if we just had, what if we had to do in the merch tent,
Starting point is 01:39:35 like ripping butts? What do you mean, bro? That sick smells coming directly from the sweatshop. Yeah. Well, we don't sell sweatshop stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:45 This is actually made America guys. Made right here. Nolan, your bevel? I think Washburn's hair is a great call, but Mendoza is. his LinkedIn profile is like one of the funniest bits going right now. That's unbelievable. That's my vote.
Starting point is 01:40:03 Tanner went Evan Washburn hair and that's where I'm going as well. That was so sick. Washburn, dude. Shout out. But I do love that Mendoza fucking. That was the LinkedIn thing was like, oh my God, of course. Dude, I saw something with him like, we were talking about a Bella Danger earlier. I'm not quite sure who that is.
Starting point is 01:40:19 And neither is Mendoza. I don't know if this was a meme, but I guess you like, I got to look this up and verify but if it wasn't me it was funny where he was like yeah I have no idea who that person is but it seems like a very loyal fan I just took my glasses off I don't know how the fuck you guys do this crazy right
Starting point is 01:40:38 yeah I think I just got depression in the lights right anxiety dude yeah speaking of it by the way I ordered some some Sean McDermott's some clear frame without the this
Starting point is 01:40:55 fucking color here. I'm going forward. I'm rocking them. You know the clear frames? Yeah. So shout out. It looked clean. Yeah. Okay. What do you got now? Anti-bevel. Anti-Bel Conway. The alert I got this morning and the day before
Starting point is 01:41:15 and it feels like I'm going to get all week that school is canceled at my kids' school. Anytime you get a snowstorm when you're a kid, you get excited and when you're an adult you get excited for a minute or two and then you're excited for a day and then you're like fuck dude we are literally we're we're we're it's like um it's like lord of the flies in here in my house dude it's crazy you know what's crazy we're at we've missed so many days at my daughter school this year that like me and my girl we're
Starting point is 01:41:51 hoping that they miss one or two more because then they'll have to put days on the back end to make up. But it's just like, we're paying for school. So it's like you don't get that money back for missed days. So it's just like, yeah, put those days back at the end. If we have to pay for this, yes, I want those days when they could be available. July, I want my kid in school in July. If I've got to take my kids to school in July.
Starting point is 01:42:23 A free summer day of July, I would love that. No better feeling. Yeah. We've got some more snow this weekend, fellas, so it might come true next week. More, more canceled school. You get more days old. I heard. No, don't think about that.
Starting point is 01:42:37 That next week is a travel week for us. Yeah, no. That's not going to be, that's not sounding good. Bo, Nate, anti-bevel? I got one. My anti-bevel, kind of like, okay, listen, I play with Matt Collins. I fucking love him. He's a great dude.
Starting point is 01:42:51 We play Rocket League on Switch. When we were traveling in the airplane, it was fucking awesome. I love his whole. and no shoes thing. But there was something about when he came in to the stadium yesterday, his entryway with the Warriors clinking the bottles. Didn't like it. I did not like that.
Starting point is 01:43:08 And I get it like, you know, someone was saying that Vraib showed him the Warriors. And then he was calling out like, Warriors come out to play. Like did not do it for me. It felt a little too performative, Dr. Fax,
Starting point is 01:43:19 if you know what I mean. That's my anti-Bel. People are too old. People are too young. People are too young to know what that is. Yeah. I know what it was. I know that reference.
Starting point is 01:43:27 I love that movie. It's a great fucking movie. It's a cult classic. I get it. It's like, it just didn't do it for me, Matt. And did he not finish the movie?
Starting point is 01:43:35 Mel Gibson, bro. Yeah, the Warriors did a Patriot. Don't, it's like not even like. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:42 Yeah. Oh, you're talking about the Patriot movie. Yeah, with the muskets. Yeah. Warriors. Oh,
Starting point is 01:43:55 My anti- Plowing my driveway, I hear it right now. Might be able to get out. Anti-bevel, right? Yeah. My anti-bevel is going to Reeds, man, Stidham. Attempting a second push pass after already fumbling. I just feel like that looked nasty.
Starting point is 01:44:16 And, yeah, just bad football. That was like nobody, nobody, nobody, for that. We were just sitting around and then he was like, yeah, I'm going to try this again. It worked decently the first time. Nolan, your pick? I'm going with Nate. This did play. Tough sight. Did City. And canceled school is Tanner's. I'm going with that Stidham second pass.
Starting point is 01:44:47 If you want Tanner's vote, you got to do real life stuff. Tanner likes the real life stuff that afflicts us all. real vibes all right best seat best seat I'm gonna go Robert craft Robert craft like when Bill
Starting point is 01:45:10 leaves and you're 80 something years old you really do have to wonder like am I going to see the playoffs again dude that's not me being like you know mean fucked up like you're an older gentleman and the clock restarted and because of getting the higher right And I got to say, everybody was mad at him, including myself when he, when he fired
Starting point is 01:45:33 Jarab Mayo. I still think Jarab Mayo, they hired him knowing they'd fire him in a year. Fucked up. Totally fucked up. But he knew the guy he wanted to bring in all along. He brought him in and he got the quarterback. And now he's getting ready to, you know, watch his team playing another Super Bowl. Like best seat, RKK is probably up there with Bon Jovi.
Starting point is 01:45:55 I mean, I guarantee Bon Jovi was at the game. Cardi B like that's what that's my Bessie I was just going to say because it's an extension to yours best C has to be Cardi B she's been in the owner's box in next to Robert Kraft for all of these games watching her baby daddy just win game after game and low key I don't know why or who was interviewing Cardi B after the game but the interview that Cardi B put out yesterday after the game I felt like was absolute masterpiece. Like when you do, when you're on teams and you get media training, I feel like she aced the media training spot with that interview.
Starting point is 01:46:41 And I'm excited to see how she acts chairing for, chair for Stefan Diggs and the Patriots in the Super Bowl. I think we'll get a lot of shots of Cardi B, probably in the box with Robert Kraft or around. And I think it's funny that Robert Kraft kind of enjoys that attention also, which is cool. So it's going to be, I think that's definitely the best seat. He enjoys it for sure, not in a terrible way or like that. No, not at all.
Starting point is 01:47:08 Like when they just, he's the like to the party. Well, I wouldn't. It's funny before they, when they, when you guys won the Super Bowl before Cardi B and, um, and Stefan was even together, when she performed at one of those parties, they, those secret parties they have for the winning team at the Super Bowl, her and Robert. craft are dancing together on stage like way back then so i'm just like you know that's it's funny just full circle how things come around now uh i think that might have been after our super bowl that's what i'm talking about yeah you're probably there i wasn't because i left they had the team party and they sold tickets to fans which is not the worst thing in the world but like like like you know like like it was like a big like everybody was in there you couldn't even be with your people you know what i'm
Starting point is 01:47:53 saying so I had to go I went to a hotel bar with uh Makin was there and we met up with Troy Aikman and Joe Buck making took a leak next to Troy Akeman it's like his proudest moment that's what he said Jesus Christ I know yeah my best seat what I got oh my best seat dude he also took a leak next to Magic Johnson once dude he's got like yeah Makin he keeps track of shit like this. Go ahead. Best piss. Best seat.
Starting point is 01:48:30 My best seat. Oh, you guys watch about five minutes. I'm so hard. Alex Handel, dude, on top of the Taipei 101 tower. He took that,
Starting point is 01:48:38 he climbed up that thing with no, you know, no safety gear. It was fucking sick. I watched, you know, it was pretty enthralling because like it's one of those
Starting point is 01:48:47 things you turn on and you obviously don't want anything catastrophic to happen, but the back of your mind, there's a little part of you. It's like, this could go really bad, and I could see this whole fucking thing unfold. And he gets up there on top of that.
Starting point is 01:48:59 And he takes that selfie, man. He's just looking out over off that fucking tower. It's pretty good seat, man. Probably pretty good feeling to free solo that bitch and then just stand up there and take a selfie. That's pretty cool. You got to be a special white breed to do some shit like that. Yeah, I just don't get it.
Starting point is 01:49:14 I don't get it. Like, I don't get it. He doesn't have an amygdala. Because that, that's selfie. like that's literally like I mean doing that selfie I guess is his personal like ultimate goal just to get up there and be like I did it but like I don't know what I think it's the selfie. It's not the selfie dude I think he's just trying to conquer like whatever whatever he can climb he wants to climb it. He's so robotic. I don't know if you saw that when he got to the top his wife was like we should say how to the kids and he was like well no they're probably asleep. Yeah and just everything there.
Starting point is 01:49:48 Yeah, it was obviously screws loose. I'm so glad you're alive. He was like, okay. All right. You got to take the, you got to take the selfie for people to believe you if they're not, if they're not recording him, right? You are on.
Starting point is 01:49:59 It was all broadcast on Netflix across the title. Is that the only time he's done that or don't cool. So people, don't people like this do this on their free time without cameras and shit. Like he's, he's had to do this before. You can't climb a fucking sky. Can you guys?
Starting point is 01:50:14 There's definitely guys who climb. skyscrapers that are not know what you're not clear to do it my best seat is Robert craft I saw Mike Reese tweet after the game 32 years of ownership 15 aFC championship game appearances that's like simultaneously
Starting point is 01:50:31 he's just like hey I want to fuck this building climbing dude that would be my worst seat being on top of that building but the the uh that's that is like simultaneously obviously believable because we've all lived through this the greatness of the Pat's franchise
Starting point is 01:50:47 but it's somehow simultaneously still unbelievable that they've been to 15 in the last 30 years. I know. It's crazy. And isn't that within the amount of time that Jerry Jones has owned the Cal or his last Super Bowl? Like 30 or 15? That's crazy. Yeah. And Tanner went Robert Kraft as well. That gets the dub.
Starting point is 01:51:09 Chris, you have three. Bo and Nate both with two. We're moving on to worst seat. Okay. my worst seat dealing with the Alex Honnold broadcasting thing um Netflix people calling Alex Hanald's assent of a tall building not only was the production of this particular broadcast absolutely brutal like like unreal like the the the holes in this broadcast Seth Rollins ran out of words dude he was like yeah I mean imagine calling a play by play by play
Starting point is 01:51:47 of a guy scaling a building, which is something you don't do at all. You're a wrestler. Nobody does. They have a chick on who's done stuff like this. And it was like everything she said, Seth Rollins was like, yeah, I totally know what you mean.
Starting point is 01:52:01 I totally know what you mean. And this is, but, you know, you got to conquer your fear up there. It's just like when you wrestle in front of thousands of people. I was like, no, it's not at all. Like, he could die. And so I just, it's a tough, it's a tough ass to be like,
Starting point is 01:52:16 hey you got to call the ascent of a building that's got eight dragons and it's like 6,000 feet high and the guy's going to like I turned it on with the kids and I was like guys because we all wanted to watch something we didn't know it was on and I go let me get on Netflix see what's on they go that that that that so I go oh that guy's been on green light by the way he's been on green light you could go back and look he was a great guess we had him for 30 minutes after free solo but my kids they were like this is great dad I go you no, he could die. Like, they're going to cut the feed, but he could die.
Starting point is 01:52:52 Are you guys okay with that? I just want to make sure you're okay with that. And they were like, yeah, I think you're fine with that. He goes through the next dragon, and my seven-year-old goes. Yeah, you can change your channel, Dad. So we turned it off and we kept coming back to it. But that was honestly, I know I'm voting worse seat. That was the closest to watching a live broadcast that looked fictional to me.
Starting point is 01:53:16 me of all time. It looked like it wasn't real, dude. It was the most futuristic thing to be watching something so potentially catastrophically terrible on live TV. And there were like people in the windows and shit. It was unreal. War seat, Seth Rollins and the gang, they had to call the ascent of a building. It's really tough. Yeah. Chris, I mean, you're talking about that not being like wrestling and how wrestling, like, you can't die. Don't forget that in 1998, The Undertaker, through mankind, hell and a cell and plummeted 16 feet through the announcer's table. All right.
Starting point is 01:53:56 So, wrestling is dangerous as well. Anyway, moving on. Worst seat for me. We kind of touched on this already with one of our esteemed callers to the locals landline. I'm just going to put it simply. It's the, you know, being in the room for the Eagles offensive coordinator search. Yeah. Doesn't feel good right now when you see all these other teams.
Starting point is 01:54:15 you see McDaniels or you know going to the Chargers table doesn't want to go to Philly all that kind of shit you know coaches are getting plucked off the streets left and right and you're still looking for your coordinator bad seat they're getting to the point where they're like I got these cheeseburgers man you got a worse movie worse seat Bo Nix watching the team he brought all the way all the way into the playoffs having to sit up there in that box with a stiff sore ankle probably probably parked up probably drugged up hoping your team will win and just to see your team lose that game that that just that just
Starting point is 01:55:02 sucks that's just the worst see and it's like you just can't there's nothing you can do there's nothing you can do and you did everything you could do to get them there and then you just can't do but sit up here and cheer. I just feel like that's the worst seat. And like I feel like low key, like even if you're not a sore loser or you're, if you're a great teammate, I feel like that's still the worst seat, like for him, whether they win or lose that game. Realistically.
Starting point is 01:55:36 Bonix gets my vote for worst seat. If he had played in that game, the Broncos would have won by three or four points. It wasn't thick. What are elastic by a field goal, huh? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:49 One by a field goal. Tanner went Bo Nix as well. Nolan, your vote? Yeah, I'm going to go Bo Nix as well. Especially seeing how May affected the game scrambling.
Starting point is 01:55:59 Could have made a difference. Yeah. Run around in the snow. Everybody wants to do it. Hollow man. Hollow man, I'm giving to Sean Payton. You know,
Starting point is 01:56:10 it's easy to, I mean, I suppose we give it to the, the returner, but I just think Sean Peyton had it all lined up for him even with the backup quarterback like the first 28 minutes of the game you're like dude our defense is good enough to shut these guys out and uh and you find a way to blow the game and um i'm not saying it was all down to that call but the mismanagement at different
Starting point is 01:56:31 points in the game um and instead um throwing the ball backwards after all the the hyping up you did of the quarterback like and we all bought it but we didn't think you were going to win 30 to 27 the script of the game was win a fucking low scoring game. I think it's Sean Payton. Sittam. What'd you say? His nickname is Sittam. Sit him.
Starting point is 01:56:58 Sit him. Might have need to sit him after that mistake. I'm sorry, Reed. Dude, he didn't play that bad. He just was boneheaded a time or two. Oh, man. My worst seat, I mean, Chris kind of threw it out there. I'm going to say Xavier Smith.
Starting point is 01:57:23 Like, it just has to feel terrible to take a punt, like, off your face or to drop a punt, to fall. Just to do anything except catch a punt when that's primarily all you do on a football team. And it's just like, it's not all you do, but like just for special teams wise, that's your one job as a punt return. is just to secure the ball. Just secure the ball. That's it. That's it. Everything you do after is plus and it's extra.
Starting point is 01:57:55 It's great. But to drop that ball in that moment and whether it's nerves, whatever it is, it just, that, I can't even, I can't imagine. I can't imagine how hollow you would feel like to drop a point in that spot. And then for the game to end up the way it is and realistically, not one play ruins a game for a team. But if people are looking at a play that ruined this game for them, you're high on the total pole, buddy. But you said it though. He's going to be okay.
Starting point is 01:58:35 Yeah. I mean, I think he will. I think he will. I think, yeah, I think he will. I don't know what type of guy is. Some people, they can, you know, they can get their minds away from stuff like. like that and be like, hey, there's other things to worry about in life. Yeah, God is good.
Starting point is 01:58:51 He's dropping this punt. It's the sun's up this morning. Yeah. Yeah. Got it. But no, it's going to suck. It absolutely is going to suck. And he's definitely going to have a few when you're nodding off and, oh, oh, like,
Starting point is 01:59:05 thinking about, you'll definitely have a few of those. And hopefully his significant other, they can calm him down. I thought you're saying hopefully a significant other doesn't leave him. Oh, no. Damn, dude. All right. What you got? What you got,
Starting point is 01:59:23 Bo? Yeah, I mean, I had Xavier Smith, too. Let me think about this for a sec. The chat has a great one. I'm going to go with,
Starting point is 01:59:32 I'm going to go with the Titans. You know, you fire Mike Rable and he instantly goes to the Super Bowl. Like, that's a bad seat. I understand that they just hired Robert Sala and they got Cam Ward and all that good stuff. But, like, that's got to fucking sting a little bit.
Starting point is 01:59:46 Titans are not a great organization, you know, in my opinion. So for them to fucking fire Braves and he instantly has the kind of success he does, that's tough. We'll save right. Titans. All right. Nolan, your vote.
Starting point is 02:00:02 Chris, Sean Peyton. Got to manage the game. I like fucking Bose, though, man. Jeez. Interwent Sean Peyton as well. I was going, Bo with the Titans. Sean Payton wins it. Fucking Tanner never votes me.
Starting point is 02:00:16 Hey Tanner. Hey, Tanner. Look at me. Look at me. Fuck you. Hey, by the way. By the way, speaking of the Titans, they also, John Snyder,
Starting point is 02:00:27 when he drafted Nick Emanwari, he traded up with the Titans. So it was just more Titans news. I was just looking at the, I was like, who the fuck? I was going to give an STL Memorial to whoever,
Starting point is 02:00:38 if they had like a scout that found this fucking mutant. But I'll give, you my STL Memorial. I'm gonna go take my don't take I'm gonna go Clint Kubiak I just think like he really shined yesterday I mean everybody's gonna make it about the quarterback
Starting point is 02:00:52 and it is but great marriage between the quarterback and the coordinator again this guy was he was cooking that was their best day of offense in the biggest stage I know they've had more productive days of offense but like let's not be Sammy semantics here they're playing for the fucking
Starting point is 02:01:08 NFC championship and they're playing a team that's own them all all season defensively and they had their best game. Sammy semantics. I got an Sceal Memorial. We got a guy going to Super Bowl. He's got two nice, beautiful legs. And that's Drake May's legs get my S.T.L. Memorial. He had, he did a great job, Russian, man. I don't, you know, this game was 10 to 7. You would have told me that this game would have been decided by his two fucking hamhawks. I would have been a little surprised. So Drake May's legs. He's got some nice legs. It's the eyes, buddy.
Starting point is 02:01:44 STL Memorial. I'm giving it to Leonard Taylor, Taylor Patriots practice squad guy who got called up the night before the game, and he was the one to get his finger on that, on that tip kick. Oh, yeah. It's just a situation as a guy that played on the practice squad and been on the practice squad. I was unfortunate to be on the team that went to the Super Bowl, but just to think to be on a practice squad for a majority of a year or for a season with a team and the night before the championship game,
Starting point is 02:02:24 you for whatever reason, you get a chance and you get pulled up and you get into this game. And maybe you had a significant role in this game. Maybe you didn't have a significant role. Don't know how many plays Taylor played, but it doesn't matter because you made up you made this play and you tipped that pass and you guys win this game the way you did and it's one of those things where like you got to get the STL memorial and that has to be a great feeling for a practice squad guy just to kind of hey you got you show up in your spot you never know when your number's called and when you do get your number called to go out there and then make a play that people are going to remember it's fire it's a pretty good one there Bo, Tanner went with your pick, so you keep doing that. We're back, baby.
Starting point is 02:03:14 We're fucking back. It's my boy, T. Best buddies. Best buddies. So Tanner went with Drake May's legs. Nolan. I'm going with Leonard Taylor on that tip to kick. Great call, Nate.
Starting point is 02:03:27 You're a Taylor. Leonard Taylor gets the dub. Nate's at three. Chris is at four. Bo, you got one. Anybody remember, thank God for Tanner. anybody remember who the guy was
Starting point is 02:03:42 that blocked the double doink everybody still thinks that fucking poor kick or parkey he went on like good morning America about it but it wasn't even really fully his fault like somebody tipped that kick does anybody remember who tip the kick in the chat
Starting point is 02:03:55 on the top of my tongue okay yeah Trayvon Hester we got in the locker room and dudes were like yay fucking blew it ha ha ha ha and Trayvon's like dude I got to
Starting point is 02:04:08 piece of it. Everybody's like, bullshit, dude. No way. You're a liar, dude. No way, dude. He's got to put that shit on his LinkedIn. Come on. No, Trayvon's my dude. Trayvon Hester's the man, dude. That was awesome. Okay. MVP, I'm going Sam Darnold. Game ball? I know. Gameball. I'm going Sam Darnold. Pretty simple for me. I mean, biggest stage, you know, we, everybody in the media and like on a spectrum of doubters to fanatics, like, I'm on. the I'm on the right side of that thing, but I'm not going to lie and say I knew that coming
Starting point is 02:04:42 in the game that he was going to throw for what three touchdowns, 100, 100 plus yards in the red zone, 100 plus rating in the red zone, fucking ambitious game plan. He was the reason they won the game. Okay. Game ball. I'm giving it to the Dixon. Michael Dixon, five punt, 45.2 yards average and all five punts down inside the 20. I feel like he was huge in this game for the Seahawks, and I think he'll be a huge factor for the Seahawks in this Super Bowl. Being able to corner coffin kicks in year 2026 as a punter, I think is just goaded.
Starting point is 02:05:33 and it's crazy that like, I just feel like the evolution of the game, you would think that punters would be able to do this like multiple times a game. And he does. Like he's able to do it, but you would think that more punters maybe would be able to do this more for their teams
Starting point is 02:05:51 and getting field position and just seeing him do that in real time is just like, it's fire. How about the punts that Denver wasted? Croshaw had like the best game ever. Yeah. He was crazy. He had some boomers.
Starting point is 02:06:06 Boom. Yeah, I'm not going to be giving my game ball to anyone on special teams. My game ball is going to go to Brable. He's a fucking stud, man. He's one of those coaches I really would have liked to have played for. Just kind of mentioned this a second ago with the Titan stuff. But, you know, taking the team from 14 losses or whatever the fuck it was last year, immediately, you know, having such as a.
Starting point is 02:06:33 successful season with kind of elevating Drake May. And then, I mean, even kind of, we've alluded to this. It's a very good roster, but it's certainly not the most talented roster in the NFL. So like just getting the most out of his guys. Obviously, like, you know, one of those coaches who walks a really fine line between being a player's coach, but also being a total hard ass. And I think he has a very good idea of who he is as a coach, you know, what he gets out of his players.
Starting point is 02:07:00 So a lot of respect for Braves, you know. really excited about him up in New England. So game ball, Braves. All right, fellas. What's the final tally here? Tanner goes with Sam Darnold. I am going with Mike Vrable and Nolan's going with. Sam Darnold.
Starting point is 02:07:19 Boom. Five for Chris. My life's going to be a lot fucking better now. Man. That was fun, guys. Congrats, dude. Is that your first? I appreciate it.
Starting point is 02:07:31 Hey, look. Normally we end the show with a Monday night. football look ahead or some sort of prediction. But this is not a normal week, right? We got the big game in two weeks. It's also not a normal week because the state murdered another protester a few days ago in broad daylight. And they lied about it immediately.
Starting point is 02:07:53 And they lie like we don't give a shit that we see multiple angles of what transpired perfectly. I mean, they killed the guy for filming and surveillance. goes both ways. They bank on the fact that we're so dumb or beaten down with the gradual erosion of norms, an erosion of a shared acceptance of truth based in reality that you're just going to accept it. We had 10 years to read the fucking tea leaves, and I do suspect in a lot of ways it's too late to undo things quickly.
Starting point is 02:08:26 Believe me, I'm not self-important enough to think that anything I say makes a fucking difference. but what I'm not going to do is close the show like everything is fucking normal because it should never feel normal to see what's happening right now in this country and ultimately I know some people are turned off by me saying this but I built this show from the ground up seven years in the running
Starting point is 02:08:49 busted my ass to own my own product and I'm going to say whatever the fuck I want to say and so if you don't like it then don't catch us when we come back later in the week on Friday but I just had to say that. I'm not one of these people that thinks like talking's going to do anything.
Starting point is 02:09:09 If talking were worth the shit, we wouldn't be here because we all did a lot of talking over the last decade. But opposing what's happening right now doesn't make you radical. It doesn't make you a leftist. It doesn't make you a fucking communist. You don't even have to be a Democrat or a fucking liberal.
Starting point is 02:09:28 You're an American. You're somebody who has empathy. and I think it transcends politics, man. I hate what I see, and it's not normal. So I didn't want to close the show in a normal way. Having said that, I don't know if saying this, you know, puts me on some sort of list. I really don't give a shit.
Starting point is 02:09:48 It's something that has really brought the mood down a lot in this country lately, and I'm sorry to see it. And so I don't know if anybody has anything to add. You don't have to. I just wanted to close the show saying that. Bo? Yeah, I'd like to add something real quick. Obviously, you know, I appreciate you saying that,
Starting point is 02:10:13 giving us a platform to kind of speak our beliefs here on this podcast. And listen, we fuck around a lot. We joke around a lot. Obviously, we talk a lot of football, but there's a lot of big things going on in the world and in our country. I've talked a lot about how I'm from Minnesota. I'm a proud of Minnesotan.
Starting point is 02:10:29 I don't really want to talk about that situation. as much, but I do want to highlight, like, you know, a lot of being made in the media about protests in Minnesota, things like that. And I want to say, like, from personal experience, people I know, you know, the community in Minnesota has really come together in a very fucking dark time. Some of the stuff that you're seeing, I don't think accurately portrays what's going on in Minnesota. There's a lot of, you know, peaceful protests, community, community support and things like that. So I just want to shout out the community. of Minneapolis for really kind of
Starting point is 02:11:04 come together, banding together during a fucking terrible situation that frankly never should happen. And if you guys don't like some of this political talk, you can fucking tune into a different podcast like Chris said. But it's not political talk dude. This is just, this is just
Starting point is 02:11:20 hey listen, I listen to podcasters for four years. Get this guy elected. Okay? So I'm not going to sit here and then be like, well, I got to sit on my fucking hands because people people don't like political talk on a podcast. Is the reason I waited to the end of the show.
Starting point is 02:11:37 I wanted to get everybody, you know, the whole show to enjoy football. Listen, if we think differently, if we have different ideas, we have different ideologies, that's fine. But if this is a deal breaker for you, believe me, I'm not going to beg you to come back and listen to the show or watch the show. Like, I don't mind thinning the herd. And I'm good. I have enough money. and I don't need this podcast to keep my lights on. So that's the privilege I have is being able to say what the fuck I want,
Starting point is 02:12:08 and I'm going to say what the fuck I want. And it ain't political. This transcends fucking politics, dude. So sorry, Beau. You're good, brother. Appreciate it. Yeah, call names on the way out. Call them on the way out.
Starting point is 02:12:24 I listened to a lot of fucking podcasts for four years. And to hear guys now say, oh, I don't know what, this is surprising to me. What are they doing? I didn't vote for this. Yes, you did. All right. And you helped them, you helped, uh, you help this be the reality.
Starting point is 02:12:40 So, um, and I think you know exactly what I'm talking about. There's a lot of comedians and podcasts and the shit. And nobody says to those guys, hey, I don't want politics in my comedy. Well, you're going to get fucking five minutes of real life shit at the end of this football show. Cause, because this is my show. Take care. We will be back on Friday.

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