Green Light with Chris Long - Reacting to Kyler Murray To Minnesota & Jaylen Waddle Trade + NCAA Tournament Review

Episode Date: March 24, 2026

The fellas are back in studio - Chris is joined by Macon and Beau for a rip around the sports world. We check in on a few NFL stories - Kyler Murray signing with the Minnesota Vikings, Jaylen Waddle b...eing traded to the Denver Broncos and Maxx Crosby's short tenure with the Baltimore Ravens. And then it's March Madness time. We discuss the evolving college basketball landscape and determine which teams remaining have a shot at winning the NCAA tournament title and which have near zero title hopes. We end with a debate about NFL vs Pro Flag Football Players and take a dive into Chris' algorithm to see which videos pop up on his feed. (00:00:00) - Intro (00:02:40) - Reaction to Maxx Crosby Trade Falling Through (00:18:43) - Kyler Murray Signs in Minnesota (00:31:33) - New York Jets Offseason (00:32:33) - Jaylen Waddle Trade (00:41:41) - NCAA Tournament (01:11:25) - Flag Football vs the NFL Presented By Zone (01:20:05) - Social Media Furniture Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline presented by Zone Nicotine and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open: ‪(202) 991-0723‬ Head to https://nicokick.com/zone and use code GL20 for 20% off at checkout. Check out Green Light's ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, where you can catch all the latest GL action: Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I used to watch and just root for the underdog because it's worth it. That's what it was about, the 11-6 upsets, the 10-7s, 12s, beating a 5. That's what made me fall in love with it. And now it just doesn't seem like that's happening as much anymore. And I think if Kyler can play with a bit more timing, be a little bit more surgical in the middle of the field, this is as much talent as KOC's had in a quarterback. I think he's so talented. My kids are making fun of me because I'm like, last place in the bracket.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Yeah, I get that a lot too. I'm like, all right, keep it up. See who drives your school tomorrow. Honestly, pretty tantalizing if you're Sean Payton to think I've got this receiver at my disposal. This helps Cortland Sutton a lot. More speed on the field. I love this trade for Denver. I don't hate Carlos Boozer. And I don't hate his kids. Those kids are good players. And we're back. Almost missed this place. Hey, congrats to you guys, huh?
Starting point is 00:00:55 Why, what happened? You big summators. Oh, us? Yeah. Oh, yeah. We've talked a lot about that since we did like, uh, a podcast on it. I know you have. We don't want to talk too much more about it.
Starting point is 00:01:06 We're going to stay humble. Yeah. You know? Good for you guys, though. We're all rooting for you for the most part. I appreciate it. What else, guys? What else has been up?
Starting point is 00:01:15 Bacon is your pitching done? I haven't seen you in months. Oh. It's a kitchen update. Okay. Well, I think if you ask the contractor, he'd say we're at the punch list phase. If you asked me,
Starting point is 00:01:27 I'd say we're more at like the 90% phase. You know what I'm saying? Defined. Oh, that resident. It resonates with me, brother. Believe me. I get it. Yeah. I've been at the punchless phase for this house I'm doing for about two years now. So, you know, I get it. It's, you know, communication is key I found in, in really all aspects of life. Now we're getting there. It's a riveting conversation. We need a, we should talk about JSN. We need like another cabinet, you know, some hardware. And then, and then furniture, you know, furniture. Well, if you need any help, just holler. Okay. I offered you some help last week. I could take some some furniture. I don't really need help really like actual.
Starting point is 00:02:10 You need furniture? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got some? What do you mean? Couches, chairs, rugs, wall coverings. Might have something for you. Are you serious? I'll get back to you after the show. Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about, Chris. Yeah. What do you think I'm talking about? Well, I hope you're talking about that fucking weird Chinese furniture that, uh, you were, you were, you were sending around you know i got some i hope you're talking about you dog we're going for more of like an american swedish vibe i think we'll see i guess we should start by talking about NFL headlines
Starting point is 00:02:42 of which i missed many you know the last time we taped um i did a whole soup to nuts fucking max crosbie trade the anatomy of a max crosbie trade man you know the one thing i did include in that in that long Crosby monologue was a bit about how many fucking snaps he's played and the way he plays football, the rugged nature with which he plays football, his inability to say when, which is honestly for me, it's an admirable trait. But if you're like trying, if you're the Raiders and you're trying to get a guy you want to trade shut down for the season last year when he's got a knee, like it's not, it's, it's less convenient.
Starting point is 00:03:28 but I love the way Max Crosby thinks of himself. He's a football player. He wants to play every snap. But over the course of his career, he's played over 2,000 more snaps than, you know, the average amount of snaps at a defensive end in his class has played. And I'm including in that analysis, some of the guys that had played a fuck ton of snaps.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Like some of the, because that was a very good class of defensive ends. And he played a couple thousand more snaps than the other guys in his class. He's over 6,000 snaps. And he's played hurt, you know, played on, you know, bad wheel, this, that, and the third. So, yeah, it was a buyer beware in there. But I think the whole thing's bullshit.
Starting point is 00:04:12 You know, and the worst part was the trade fell through right after I had finished breaking the trade down. And then I was like, I want to hop back on. And I was, I was advised to wait a week. And then we never got on. So here I am like this is like super old news right here, but I'm going to tell you what I think. What I think is the, and this is a well-beaten path on this take, but I do think the Ravens had buyer's remorse. I do think I think they got on Amazon at 1 a.m. and they were shopping high, dude. We've all done it where you get on late at night and all of a sudden a $3,500 telescope shows up a couple days later.
Starting point is 00:04:52 And your wife's like, what the fuck are we doing? we don't buy 3,500. What time did you order this telescope? No, send it back. It was like a time that I ordered one of those 10-foot skeletons for Halloween. The things you put in your art and Meg legitimately made me send it back. There's no bullshit. I had to find somebody that could like put it on their truck with a pallet.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I would never do that. I would never send anything back from Amazon, dude. The convenience of clicking five buttons and it shows up at your house. so outweighed by the you know the thought of going to a fucking like a whole foods or something and dropping off a thing at the amazon deal there and returning it no chance yeah i'm stuck with it never yeah whatever it is but but no that's what they did they this is an organization that doesn't do this right we don't usually do this but they did they sent over two first round picks for a guy that i do believe if you get a hell and i said this the day the trade happened
Starting point is 00:05:49 if you get a healthy Max Crosby, it's a home run. Because he doesn't just rush the pass or he transforms the way you play the run. You know, he basically leads a league in negatives. That's something that Baltimore has not done a great job of in the run game. Creating negatives, getting you behind and down in distances. I was salivating over seeing Kyle Hamilton and Max Crosby play football together because those two guys are like knives. You know, they're in the run game.
Starting point is 00:06:15 They're just as good as they're in the past game. I've seen, you know, Kyle Hamilton feel like a lot. I'mbacker. Crosby lives in the backfield. But it fell through. And here's the fucking crazy thing, guys. As I listen to Max Crosby talk about the way it all went down, what I found out was essentially it was a smoking gun. They flew the condor commercial five hours to Baltimore. You're telling me, and I know it varies from team to team, whether you send the guy a bird or not, like after you, But if you're going to send two first round picks, if the Baltimore Ravens send two first round picks for a guy, as uncharacteristic as it might be, a guy who's coming off of a meniscus repair. And when you Google meniscus repair, one of the first things that they say not to do is sit for a very long time.
Starting point is 00:07:06 They put a six foot, they put the condor in a bird cage, bro. And he was eating hot delta peanuts. Him and his family. They knew that beer is going to blow up, you know? They're like, how can we get out of this? Let's get that knee smalled up. Let's sit a commercial. If you didn't know anybody, you would think they were sabotaging.
Starting point is 00:07:24 They were like, let's get this thing full of fluid. Let's sit him in a fucking on a commercial flight. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But if you send two first round picks for a guy, like make it look like the movies. You know, like I want to see the purple carpet. I don't want to see the 6 foot 6, 6, 6 foot 7 TFL sack machine that you just traded. You mortgaged your future for, allegedly. in on a commercial flight standing in line in an airport dude like it just doesn't i want to see a purple
Starting point is 00:07:53 fucking carpet on the tarmac and i want to see steve steve boshati's jet dude that's what it's supposed to look like ironically after they told him the tray was falling through they felt so bad about it they sent a jet back which is totally ass backwards they sent him on a jet backwards which i don't know what to make of that but the point is like it's pretty clear to me what happened here and i'm kind of joking about the flight, although it's totally fucked up. If I were like an owner, I would be sending a jet for a guy that I sent two first round picks for unless I wasn't sure that he was going to be a Raven. And I do think that at that point in the week, they had decided, hey, we saw that there wasn't the market we anticipated for Trey Hendrickson, who we do not have to give up two first round
Starting point is 00:08:37 picks for. And so we'll do it the easy way. And I do think if I compared the two players, two guys that I absolutely love, I would rather have Max Crosby for a year or two than I would Trey Hendrickson, and they might have seen something in the MRI that legitimately was, was worrisome for them, but they also knew what they were getting into, trading for a guy who was coming off of surgery, trading for a guy with that kind of mileage. What I heard through back channels was the MRI was fine. That's what I heard. Now, that's the Raiders side of it.
Starting point is 00:09:05 The Ravens would say, hey, we've done this before, and Wilcompton talked about this with Ryan Grant, 2018, right? The wide receiver. And they said, you know, and they did it with Michael Brockers, too, my friend as well. And, you know, the funny thing about the Ryan Grant thing is, I think he only played 15 more games. So the Ravens could actually say, hey, we know what the fuck we're doing. We see damaged goods.
Starting point is 00:09:25 When they show us the Carfax, we know what we're looking at. But like, I kind of think this was an easy out for them. I really do. And there's nothing you could say to prove it. They're not going to investigate this thing, although they probably should. Well, it's Ravens team doc. So this sets a precedent. Anybody can fail a player's physical.
Starting point is 00:09:47 It's like an inspection contingency for a buyer in real estate. Dog, I was going to. You can terminate a contract for any reason, including no reason, including cold feed, including something better popped up that I'd rather buy in the state of Virginia. Deposit comes back to you. How do you know this? So do the, I sell real estate. Okay, just to remind people.
Starting point is 00:10:08 So do the Ravens get a bad rap here? Do they get punished by the rest of the league for agreeing to? a deal and then welching on it i think so bo i think so i think i think uh nobody nobody wants to sell 3 500 dollars telescopes to the fucking ravens anymore man like yeah i mean it's a gray area though right like they don't they there's no punishment in the like that's going to come down from the league but i think for future free agents it's it definitely like gives you pause you know what i mean like if you're a big name guy and you're a free agent and i think people kind of remember that and i'm I'm sure Max is telling all of his boys and whomever he talks to about how they did him kind of dirty.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Obviously, he's excited to be back in Vegas and all that stuff. But it's just a bad fucking look, man. I think it's, I just think it's bad ball. I think it's sloppy. I did not buy it all what they were saying. Didn't they put something out the Ravens saying like, yeah, we were trying to pair Crosby and Hendrickson together. Yeah, that was way. Tray said that too.
Starting point is 00:11:06 All right. They fed Tray that line. Yeah. They fed that line for sure. they're like yeah you're not replacing you're not like the new girl like you we want to do the whole time with with crosbie it's like okay all right sure
Starting point is 00:11:18 we're polyamorous it's a bad look yeah exactly it's a bad look man I don't I don't I'm not a big fan it is it is a bad look and it's gonna affect I think at least in the short term and you know people I don't know how long teams memories are but like you know when you deal with the Ravens
Starting point is 00:11:34 and they actually had this reputation because they've done it a couple times but ironically the Raiders were on the other end of something like this. Roger Saffle, when I was in St. Louis, in 2014, there was a trade that they were trying to send him to the Raiders, and I guess the Raiders failed his physical, and Saffle played another nine years.
Starting point is 00:11:56 So the outcomes on this, you know, it's easy to say to sit here if you're the Ravens, and if Max Crosby flames out in a year and a half for two years, which anything is possible, I mean, like the guy's got some mileage and he plays his fucking ass off every Sunday, He refuses to come off the field. There just seems like there's too ripe an opportunity here for market manipulation.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Like agreed to monster terms with a guy via trade, put whatever you want out there in the public, and then cancel the deal during the legal tampering, which is another funny term. There's no restitution for the raiders who went out and basically maxed out their credit card. No pun intended. They maxed out their credit card and, you know, then their check comes back that it bounced
Starting point is 00:12:46 like a day or two later. It just doesn't, they have to avoid this sort of thing. Because honestly, if it weren't the Raiders, I think people would care a lot more about this. If this were like one of the most important teams and, you know, most people think the Raiders are a couple years off, at best, if this was a team that the NFL was dependent upon like meal ticket type team and they went out and fucked themselves in free agency and spent way too much money like the NFL would would would would want to make that right i think the nfl's lucky that this was the raiders yeah and if it was if harbaugh was still in baltimore man that he'd be catching a pretty hefty fine i feel like he's getting punished for shit every year when he was
Starting point is 00:13:28 there but it's a new regime i think the biggest thing that i'm frustrated at frustrated about is we were robbed of an all-time edge rushing duo in baltimore might think i'm talking about Trey Hendrickson and Crosby, but no, I'm talking about Kyle Hamilton on the edge. Max Crosby on the other edge, man. Think about that duo. Yeah, that'd be a lot of fun. It would have been fun seeing them play together. Understand Max had a knee and there was an MRI involved in several docs.
Starting point is 00:13:56 But what does an NFL physical look like? Is it like my physical? They grab your balls. They tell you turn your head and cough. Which is not a thing anymore. No. That was a thing forever. That's not a thing.
Starting point is 00:14:08 You know, that thing sucks. are they making you still cough uh i feel like i coughed in the last year or two my primary care maybe my primary you know mine's like all good i trust you know that's the only bright spot of my day when you got the physical might as well get something out has it stopped dude my PCP not for 15 years 15 years i think damn i definitely that's happened to me more recently 15 years now she's like you you're good like yeah next thing you're going to tell me they don't they don't do prostate again anymore it's just me no I haven't had that yet is it is it like a physical like an annual physical well I never actually
Starting point is 00:14:55 I never actually was you know but like when I saw with a new team you got to go through a physical it's it's it's um it's probably north of an annual physical for sure it's it's they're they're taking imaging of they're looking at imaging they're looking at x-rays if there's anything in question, they're going to do new imaging. And it wasn't just Baltimore's doctors. They had like Cowboys. Cowboys doctor, like a group of five doctors, which is also a goofy kind of thing, too. You know, guys who I know they're supposed to just be doctors, but they work for teams.
Starting point is 00:15:29 So it's, listen, it's like your real estate thing. And I was going to bring that up when you came in. I was going to say, isn't it like if I were looking at a property and I said, make I really like this property, but I'm waiting on this other property. Can we just get like a 60 day deal here? And we inspect it and we'll see. And if the other thing pops up, we're out. Not that you would do something like that. No, because with my fellow agent, that's a bad look. It's a bad look. And then two contracts being equal next time around, they're going to work with the other agent. And I think it's a worst look in the NFL. I think it happens more in real estate.
Starting point is 00:16:06 for those of you who are you know MLS inclined and we probably don't have a group of docs huddled around an MRI image pointing at the problem because of HIPAA yeah exactly a group of contractors just a bunch of kitchen contractors
Starting point is 00:16:22 hey let me call in my guy I'd still trade for Max Crosby I would trade for Max Crosby is the perfect time to trade for Max Crosby whether you're Philly whether you're Chicago if you're the type of team that thinks your window is open say you have a quarterback on a rookie deal.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Let's say last year you lost to the Rams in the playoffs and you were pretty good on third down all season. You didn't have a lot of pass rushers up front. Let's say you're the Bears. You know, I'm talking about the Bears here. I think the Bears would be a really good, and they're still chatter about the Bears. I think the Bears would be a fantastic landing spot for Max Crosby.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Another one is another small deal, but it's a it's a real thing is you play in the um in the uh in the in the in the nbc north you're going to play outside um a lot at home in chicago you're going to play on grass okay that's good for a guy with a knee i don't know if that grass is great but that's a real thing like you know you practice on grass play on grass you know the other team that i could see making a play for for max would be uh the cowboys Imagine being Jerry Jones and saying, hey, you guys gave me a bunch of shit
Starting point is 00:17:38 when I shipped Michael Parsons out of town. But he popped his ACL. And here I am with Max Crosby for a discount, Rishon Gary, and we're on our way. You know, like he probably took a little victory lap after doing something like that. So I do think there's a market for Max.
Starting point is 00:17:58 I still think there is. What would you trade for him now? I'd give up a one. One one. Yeah, I'd give up one one. I'd come to the table, you know, with a one and probably, you'd probably have to throw something else in that, in there. I got one in a three. It depends on what I haven't seen the imaging.
Starting point is 00:18:17 We can all get together and two of our buddies and have a five-man panel. I think the big, the other thing, too, is Chris, like this draft is a little, me. You know, we're not big college football guys anymore, but I know it's a strong edge rushing class. So maybe teams are kind of waiting to see after the draft, how the draft unfolds with some of these good edge players. That's kind of my opinion. Right. That's right. And we didn't just, we didn't just miss out on talking about Max Crosby.
Starting point is 00:18:42 We also missed out on talking about the Kyler Murray signing. Minnesota Murray. Minnesota Murray, yeah. And it's not a, it's not a steep investment for Minnesota. I mean, this is, this is like a league minimum type of thing. 1.3? This is awesome. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:01 And I know I've been, I've been all. oh kailer murray oh i don't know i don't know if i would i don't know okay in minnesota i think i would i think i would because they just fired the gm uh who took my paternity leave respect i know it's a we're we're like the most hardworking country on the planet and like we don't know what like time off is in ship but like probably not a good idea that time of year um and not hiring a new GM until after the draft. Which is a super interesting thing. In an industry where like the only excuse on the inside for a day off is like you're
Starting point is 00:19:45 dead. Like nobody misses work ever. I remember I had a one of my friends died like a friend. Yeah. And I went to the head coach and like had my hat in my hand asking for a Friday off to go to the funeral. like I was like, man, this is a balzy ask. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:08 You know what I'm saying? Yeah, crazy. I remember one time, I remember one time when I was a young player, one of my teammates who was not a guy playing 60 snaps a game, he was a rotational player at this point. His wife was giving birth. The head coach asked if she could move the delivery date. Because it was close to the game.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Move it up 10. yards. That's the drilled, dude. Now, was it a scheduled Cessarian? I don't know. I don't know that.
Starting point is 00:20:38 I don't. Okay. I know. Yeah. But it's, that's the kind of thing it is. But anyways, Quacy's gone.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Which to me is like, I don't know how long KOC's leash is. And I love KOC. We are fans of Kevin O'Connell on this pod. We think that's a great organization. We went up there and spent some time in training camp a year ago. And, um,
Starting point is 00:21:00 they, They've had a lot of talent on the field. I think they've maximized what they've had at quarterback until this past year, in my opinion, which is one of the ironies of, like, picking your guy, letting Sam Darnold walk, Sam Darnold hoisting the trophy, the guy that you replace him with two years in, you kind of, you're not waving the white flag, but you're saying we're going to, we're going to create some competition. Shit just got real for J.J. McCarthy.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And I think it should. Because, I mean, last year. You know, Tyler's a gamer, too, you know. Yeah, he is a gamer. You got it. But that's the one thing is like, I look at. at Kyler and I say fuck this guy's got a lot of talent always have
Starting point is 00:21:35 I've always seen that but when I hear things about work habits and when I hear things about not being a student of the game as a quarterback it's kind of a non-negotiable and to me that's the one thing like if this is going to work if KOC can turn him into a student then it really could work
Starting point is 00:21:51 because this is the best group that he would have had around him yet in his career I mean you know like I like some of the skill guys that they have in Arizona but you know not playing behind a great offense line last year in the limited time that he was on the field their run game kind of dried up you know kind of concurrent with the james connor injury um i don't think petzing was probably the perfect dance partner for him and i honestly don't think cliff kingsbury was ironically you know i think i think way too much of cliff's scheme was like go make a
Starting point is 00:22:21 play you know and i think he needs more structure i think he needs a good teacher and uh i think he needs to be more surgical in the middle of the field if this is going to work forget hitting the digs, you know, which is a big part of this offense is like hitting the intermediate stuff off a play action, that sort of thing. It's also like your dump downs have to be accurate and you can't short-arm things and your technique can't, you know, break down in the pocket. And then to me, like the deep outs and those sort of big throws that KOC, I mean, the go balls, everything, the timing has to be really good. And I think if Kyler can play with a bit more timing, be a little bit more surgical in the middle of the field, this is as much talent.
Starting point is 00:23:01 as KOC's had in a quarterback, you know, if Kyler sees the field. I really do. I think he's so talented. But he's got to play on time. And I think another thing is KOC's got to change the way he calls offenses a little bit. And one of the things that people have harped on a little bit is shotgun, right? Like, Kyler's not going to be an under center guy. He hasn't been bad when he's been under center, you know, necessarily.
Starting point is 00:23:25 But like, one of the reasons they brought in Frank Smith from Miami, a name that we've talked about a little bit in this show. run game coordinator formerly offensive coordinator in Miami under McDaniel and got some looks as a head coach even over the last couple years I think he's a really good coach from what it sounds like and I think he had a lot to do
Starting point is 00:23:43 with their gun run game and so like getting Kyler in the gun to maximize his abilities changing what you do a little bit and finding him those easy first reads that KOC's known for that JJ really wasn't I didn't think JJ was good at finding the easy answers
Starting point is 00:23:59 which is something you think a young player would be seeking out. He wasn't. So, so I think, I think there's a lot of, of positive, and I'm not going to say it's necessarily going to work out because, fuck, I don't know, as an analyst, I don't know, I can't decide whether or not Kyler Murray is going to work. Like, I don't mean whether he's going to work out. I mean whether he's going to, you know, put pen to paper, take notes, be the last guy in the building at night, become a student of game, become an NFL quarterback, and that's like a full-time job. If he does that, he will succeed in Minnesota if he's healthy.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Well, you don't want to be the first quarterback to not be rehabbed by Kevin O'Connell. I mean, he has Daniel Jones, he has Sam Darnel. JJ is a different case because he was a rookie. And a reset, you get the new organization and a new coach. I know he caught a lot of heat for the homework clause in Arizona, requiring him to review game film. Yeah. But he also probably believes what he said in 2021, which was,
Starting point is 00:25:01 I was blessed with the cognitive skills to just go out there and see it before it happens. I don't sit there for 24 hours and break down this team and that team and watch every game because in my head I see so much. That's so bullshit because when I watch him play and I watch every single snap of him throwing the ball last year and as you know, I watch a ton of games. He doesn't see the field that well late in downs. That's one of the things that he needs to improve at is like, listen, I love the mobility that he brings at the table. but he has to be better seeing the field late and downs like that is the if you're just relying on your vision it hasn't been great so far how much that do you think is five foot 10 i don't think it's all five foot 10 i think it's just how certain people see the field so he has to price young man it's
Starting point is 00:25:45 it's that's like it's i think it goes back to your commitment to learning a fucking scheme and executing it which is exactly your concerns right talking about uh kiler going to minnesota to me Kyleor Murray is Kyler Murray until he proves that he's not Kyler Murray, right? And so I think one silver lining from him for basically getting released and getting this opportunity to play in Minnesota on a really cheap deal is it's kind of like a hard look in the mirror at yourself, right? It's like obviously what I was doing in Arizona was not working. And you kind of hope that he can he can take that to heart and
Starting point is 00:26:18 you know, change his shit up, I guess, mostly just his preparation. His arm talent is elite. Like you mentioned those digs, those outs, things like that. If he throwing the ball to Justin Jefferson. It's like what a fucking great scenario as long as he's doing it on time and in rhythm within the scheme. So we said it all, man. It's like they have the Vikings have a lot of talented playmakers
Starting point is 00:26:37 are on offense except for their offensive line which was banged up like Derisaw's been banged up here now two years in a row. So I think the only concern I have of him not executing KOC's offense is just kind of plays breaking down due to shitty O line
Starting point is 00:26:54 play and him playing back backyard football and kind of just, you know, putting on that comfortable pair of jeans and and doing that shit over and over again, which, you know, like, that's football that happens. And then, you know, just him not completely buying into into the scheme and preparing the way that he needs to. But like, I'm optimistic, man. It's a cheap deal. At the very least, you bring in a vet presence who has experience that can help push your
Starting point is 00:27:15 your young guy if he, if JJ ends up, you know, winning and, you know, winning the starting role, which I don't necessarily think's going to happen. I think week one will be Kyler. but there's a lot of upside here for for minnesota i think a lot to be excited about like i i personally think it's a good it's a good setup for for both parties you said hard look in the mirror and i kind of pictured him stepping up on one of those stools oh come on now like a spotty potty no because you know my kids when they brush their teeth man they got this fucking they're basically like up on a ladder um so but but and we say all this to say this is exciting i'm excited for i mean like
Starting point is 00:27:53 Kyler has given me zero reason. No, he's been a good quarterback at times in his league. But he's given me, and you kind of said this, Beau, like he's given me zero reason to believe that he's going to consistently, you know, exhibit the work habits that it takes, the consistency, the buy-in, and that's what it's going to take. So he's kind of at a crossroads. The guy's almost 30 years old.
Starting point is 00:28:15 And like I said, he's played some good ball. Another thing is the run game, and I mentioned, you know, Frank, Smith coming from Miami having to be in the gun more. But one thing KOC likes is he's going to have to take some snaps under center and they will go play pass. And, you know, when they go play action pass, one of the things that like, I don't think KOC's had a quarterback that has threatened backside edge defenders to where they have to respect playfakes, right?
Starting point is 00:28:45 And, you know, a lot of big runs in the NFL are backside A gap, backside B gap kind of runs. Oh, Nix in the playoffs, you know? Drake May too, yeah. But I'm talking, yeah, there's that, there's your naked's and that sort of thing, but I'm talking about not just the QB read, I'm talking about when he carries out front side run, play fake. Are you going to, as that backside end, are your eyes on him a quarter second too long
Starting point is 00:29:13 and the air between you and the three technique or the shade and the lanes that that creates? I mean, as an edge defender, I can speak to it. You know, when you have to, worry about a Kyler Murray rolling out and you will not beat him to the sideline you know he's a waterbug it kind of takes away from the way you play the run and it's not a physical thing it's a mental thing so so you in KOC's it he's an he's an artistic cat he's gonna he's gonna figure out ways to kind of pull those levers and occupy eyes with the mobility especially like red zone think about like
Starting point is 00:29:51 low red zone or critical moments like a third and two You know what I mean? Go to that zone read and get creative with, I don't know, like, you know, just some shotgun, you know, some, I don't know, maybe RPO, zone read option stuff where you can get the ball in Kyler's hand. Because, dude, like, he is, you know, I was a little critical, but he is so explosive and he can be really dynamic in the run game with the ball in his hand, scrambling, but also design runs. And then he does have a really nice arm talent, man. Like, let's not forget about that. he can fucking throw that rock i think it'll be good i i'm not afraid of the the you know the undercenter run game i think that kind of like i was saying earlier like that could be a really good opportunity
Starting point is 00:30:32 for kiler to learn how to do something that's going to develop him as a you know a pro quarterback yeah and if he buys into it and we all know how personal and how smart kOC is we've experienced that firsthand like i don't know i think he can kind of get him going i think it'll be a good thing Dude, he had Josh Dobbs ready to play fresh off the airplane. You know, he's won with Jaron Hall. He's fucking... Carson Wins looked even better. Wentz looked good for some games in Minnesota, you know, cousins and,
Starting point is 00:31:01 and obviously Sam Darnold, who, you know, took his opportunity and ran with it in Seattle as well. But like, KOC's a good coach. And if this doesn't work, the 27 class is dope. Not to say they'll be picking in the top 10, but all these quarterbacks now, Nick's May, Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels have all made runs in the playoffs. And the 27 class is Dante Moore, Julian Sane, Arch Manning, Lenora Sellers, Sam Levitt, John Mateer, Brendan Sorsby, a lot of good names. Speaking of that, the jets are tanking.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Yeah. They're doing it the right way, though, Chris. I like how they're doing it. Absolutely. They're bringing in some veterans. you know they're bringing in like your demario davis is the world minka fitzpatch pittspatrick on yamata guys like that who are gonna who are gonna bring and it's just a sidebar here who are going to bring along young players that you draft and will depend on in the future and and give them veteran presence to say hey this is how you win in the league and then they're going to cut those guys yeah as a thank you but like along the way those
Starting point is 00:32:10 young guys are going to learn and in a year when they tank for arch manning and then arch Manning says, I'm not going to the Jets. Like my uncle said, I'm not going to the fucking chargers. I'm not going to the Jets. Then at least they'll be in the sweepstakes for one of those other quarterbacks. So you mentioned, but yeah, the Jets are tanking. So are the dolphins. It's kind of an interesting thing.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Speaking of the dolphins tanking, um, Jalen Waddle headed to God's team. Let's go cowboy, Reed. This is great, dude. This is a great move for Denver, whose windows wide open. They are Super Bowl contenders, man. Boy, that would have been a good Super Bowl. Now that the Patriots lost that Super Bowl, the way they did, you can say it with your chest,
Starting point is 00:32:52 but man, that would have been a good Super Bowl, Denver and Seattle. It would have been a great Super Bowl, and it's tough to hear after this trade has happened that this trade was on the doorstep right, middle class. During the season. When they signed Malik Willis and I fucking was, you know, oh, look at this offense, man.
Starting point is 00:33:12 They got A. Chan, they got, you know, they got Waddle. They got, you know, Paul on an offensive line, Brewer. You're like, they got some good players here. Well, this takes a big chunk out of that. And now you look at their core and you're like, man, the ironic thing was you go from Green Bay. And I think Barnwell said this, but like there's no number one for Malik Willis in Green Bay. And now there's no number one, two, three or four in Miami. Oh, I got it changed.
Starting point is 00:33:40 What do you mean? Yeah. Well, he's going to get traded soon, if not early in the season. I'm just telling you, because now there's no point in having an A-chan unless you, they do have seven top 100 picks, you know, so maybe they think, maybe the GM who was in Green Bay thinks, man, I got it. I kind of know how to pick them, and I'm going to load us up with weapons. And, you know, but I think Miami and New York are kind of in ethical tank mode.
Starting point is 00:34:10 having said that wow new england and fucking buffalo there that's those two teams are going to be highly seated no matter who wins that division um but but for the broncos Sean Peyton great fit um more speed on the field like a Franklin but this guy's like got a little bit more juice than a and and he's also he's also legitimately i you know i was it's easy to forget Michael Thomas is time in New Orleans because it was like he was like a shooting star like he was great for a short period of time injuries got him and you know
Starting point is 00:34:48 like my first reaction was like damn is this the most talented wide receiver that Sean Payton's had because he had Colston who was an amazing player I don't know that anybody would have said he was traditionally talented and honestly I don't think Mike Thomas was traditionally talented because of the way you know he
Starting point is 00:35:05 fell a little bit in the draft late second round that sort of thing Waddle has been the guy, you know, forever, you know. And high pick, high ceiling, honestly pretty tantalizing if you're Sean Payton to think, I've got this fucking receiver at my disposal. This helps Cortland Sutton a lot, takes some pressure off him, good fit with the screen game, more speed on the field. I love this trade for Denver.
Starting point is 00:35:32 It's huge too because Waddle is always high in the league in his drop percentage. He does not have a high drop percentage. Last year, the Broncos all season, and especially in the playoffs, drops were a big issue. Cortland Sutton dropped a couple balls, Troy Franklin, all the guys like going down the list. You imagine if you still had Jerry Judy? Yeah, foo! It'd be pretty high. Dribbling the ball.
Starting point is 00:35:55 But a big piece is yak, speed, and the drop percentage. No, it's huge. It's a great fit on all. And Cortland Sutton's going to go off. You mentioned it. Cortland Sutton's going to go off because we've talked about him being a low-end one, high-end two, is he kind of, it's the end of his second big contract and hits the twilight of his career. How old is he now?
Starting point is 00:36:20 I think he's 29, probably 30 at the start of next year. And he still looks great. And, you know, like, but you have to prepare for the future. And right now, this helps. You know, you kind of do have like a 1A and a 1B. And I don't know who the 1A is. I think Waddle probably ends up being the 1. 1A and look how quickly you're putting on Sutton no I love Sutton but he's going to he's going to
Starting point is 00:36:42 benefit so much he is he's going to benefit a benefactor and boy did um did George Patton save his job from the uh Twitter finger page Broncos fans and so I don't know if you guys were following I was pretty close everyone was pretty mad there were no deals from the Broncos early in free age oh really oh yeah it was it was about to be like fire everybody you know fans are funny about that man they just want to see something happen and then they hate the trade and then they you know the year later they hate the trade it fucking literally when the news came everyone's like great we knew it we knew he was going to have some yeah sure sure if you had to have a homogeneous wide receiver room you can only have a six four possession type guy or a five 10 jitterbug everybody's the same right
Starting point is 00:37:32 wide receiver one through four. Where are you picking? I am going to pick the big guys, and I'm going to have a room full of diverse running backs, and then I'm going to use the running backs outside. Okay, that's a fine answer. Bo? Is that the wrong answer? That's the right answer, I guess. Bo? Can't coach height making. Can't coach height. That's right. Also, I need guys. Are my six, four guys physical? They're physical. We're going to block. Yeah. We're all blocking, dude. And offensive coordinators.
Starting point is 00:38:02 favorite play is the fade in the end zone. Basically, this is a pick the bangles from the past couple years of the dolphins. No, it's, it's remember when Brandon Staley was like, oh, I watched the last dance. I'm cool. And I'd like to populate my wide receiver room like the Chicago Bulls, so everybody's going to be tall as fuck. And then he forgot that like different body types help. Like there's also point guards on NBA teams.
Starting point is 00:38:30 You know? And that he had Michael. Jordan. Yeah. Exactly, dude. I was like, all right, so you watch the last dance. But yeah, no, I think the Broncos should be excited. I think the Broncos are going to be one of the best teams in the league next year.
Starting point is 00:38:45 If they can just not be fat and happy after their big playoff run, a lot of times, like, it's so easy after a run like that to be like, yep, they'll be back there next year, and they should be on paper. It's basically a first and third, which is expensive, but the first is number 30. I think we all agree it's worth it. Absolutely. You find me a waddle at 30? Yes.
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Starting point is 00:39:58 I do now. Yeah. You know who doesn't take creatine? who's that Rob Nankovitch you can tell the way I threw him around in San Francisco Hey Minco You impressed me
Starting point is 00:40:08 You got a nice quick move My back still feels it Having to wrestle with that motherfucker He always wants to wrestle But he doesn't know I take Create creatine So it doesn't just help you stay strong I really have always had trouble
Starting point is 00:40:23 keeping weight on like even when I played I used to go weigh in with like two and a half pound plates But now I don't have to do that I just take create gummies and I've increased doses like to the seven to 10 grams a day range. I'm not a doctor, but it's one of the most studied supplements of all time. And it's not just good for muscle retention for performance in the gym. You know, your boy's 40 now. So I really need my creatine.
Starting point is 00:40:50 It's also good for cognition. I really will take it sometimes in the afternoon and feel a lot better. You know, that last night before I went out on like fumes, I, I popped a couple create gummies. I felt nice and strong in the club. I felt wide awake. I felt like cognitively. I could have done anything I needed to do.
Starting point is 00:41:09 I thought I could have solved the fucking Rubik's Cube. Joe Tunney walks up. He's like, hey, can you do this? Yeah, I took my gummies today. So anyways, it's a good habit. I feel great when I'm on it. And these are tasty gummies. Healthy brain, cognitive effects as I get older,
Starting point is 00:41:27 very important. muscle maintenance, keeping this physique. You know what I'm saying? Your physique looks great, Chris. Your physique looks phenomenal. Thanks. You too. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:41:42 I'm a college basketball guy. Yeah, Virginia. Virginia have done it. Yeah, we did it. Virginia basketball. On to the Sweet 16th. Yep. Yep. Just knocked off the Iowa women Hawkeyes. women's hawk eyes is my son would say my son can't say women's for some reason is he from massachusetts no no thankfully
Starting point is 00:42:04 people in the northeast tend to have an issue saying women's noticed but he you know and he attends some of these games like mom are we going to the woman's game tonight he also hates duke and the boozer brothers which warms my heart because it's a it's a generational thing dude like when you grow up watching I legitimately remember pointing at Carlos Boozer, who was only a couple years older than me, as he walked into the U-Haul, which is the old stadium, the house of Ralph Sampson built, and I was like, you're ugly, you know, or something like that, and hating the guy for no good reason other than he played for Duke.
Starting point is 00:42:43 And actually, he stared back at me and was kind of like fucking imposing. And then fast forward, you know, 30 years later, and my kids hate his kids. Yeah, that's dope. It really But you know The fucked up thing is The fucked up thing is
Starting point is 00:42:59 I don't hate Carlos Boozer Yeah And I don't hate his kids Yeah Those kids are good players And I like the all-state commercial Kill me
Starting point is 00:43:07 I like the all-state commercial I think it's a great commercial Why do you guys have blue stuff On your face And then it cuts to them Like Gatorade-esque It's pretty geeky I'll call dad
Starting point is 00:43:16 I'll call dad I'll call dad No I mean The The inherited Duke Blue Devil Hatred And you guys I've told
Starting point is 00:43:23 story about Carlos Boozer when he's shit on the Rams, right? You remember this faintly? Bo, you haven't heard this, but basically I caught Carlos Boozer making fun of the Rams as we were getting off the elevator. I guess his basketball team was in the same hotel as our football team, and we were all on the elevator laughing as we might on a, you know, a Saturday, before a Saturday night meeting, we're in Arizona playing the Cardinals. And we get off the elevator and supposedly he was on the elevator and said, don't them blank word. play for the Rams. They shouldn't be laughing about anything.
Starting point is 00:43:57 They fucking suck. And so, yeah, the beef continues. But anyways. I think they look more like brothers, the three of them. Boozer and his kids?
Starting point is 00:44:10 Carla, yeah. Well, the hair. Hair, yeah, yeah. Hair,
Starting point is 00:44:14 but still, they've got some big, you say, you've got some facial hair for some impression. They do. They're grown-ass kids. Grown-ass kids.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Yeah, they can play. So I don't know where we start with this, but you're the basketball connoisseur making. Do you like what it's become? Do you prefer? Because the way I think about this now is the tournament. By the way, don't say tournament. If anybody, right? Correct.
Starting point is 00:44:43 This is so fucking stupid. My wife says it. I'm like divorced. Yes. Next. Next. tournament you try to sound like British or something from New Jersey
Starting point is 00:44:56 so anyways Nolan probably says it do you say tournament because you're from God bless it a lot of tournaments being played up here that's unreal dude it's a sickness I can't believe you all say that Paramel that's the tournament the tournament the tournament the tournament
Starting point is 00:45:13 the tournament fuck me it's it's like this virus the tournament now seems to have flipped where I used to watch, and I still watch, obviously, judging by my bet-m-GM bet slip, which is like one in 20 this week, to bet the underdogs and just root for the underdogs, because it's worth it. You hit on one of those, one out every three of them, you know, in the first round,
Starting point is 00:45:39 and like, that's what it was about the 11-6 upsets or whatever, the 10-7s, fucking 12s beating a 5. Like, that's why you, that's why I used to come to March Madness, right? That's what made me fall in love with it. And now it just doesn't seem like that's happening as much anymore. And this year's like kind of an example of that because of NIL mostly in the transfer portal, which is you get the clustering of talent and you get the schools that can afford. I mean like look at like Jerry Jones might not win a fucking Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:46:08 but his razorbacks are pretty sick, dude. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. In today's day and age, it feels like the tournament flip from a tournament that you show up to watch for the beginning. And now it's in, and I used to be like, well, it kind of sucks at the end. Like I'm not as into it. Like the closer gets to the championship.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Now I feel like the basketball is going to be so good in the Sweet 16 because all these teams are like super expensive. And the Cinderella's Texas, quote unquote. And it costs $22 million to field that team. Yeah. So now it's like, it feels like better basketball on the back end. And what you don't get now is the upsets. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:48 It's pretty simple. The best players from the mid-majors are going to the power teams. So the best teams are getting better. The NIL part of that is that the best players are staying in college because of the paycheck. They're getting seven figures to hang out in college where they might be a second round pick to go to the NBA. You have to go play in Europe. And then the transfer portal is the bigger issue, I think, where there's no penalty. You can play for four schools in four years. I think if you gave the players one of those, one freebie, and then you would have to sit out a year if you transfer it a second time, that fixes a lot of it and brings parity back into the equation. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Because as it is now, yeah, you have multi-millionaire mercenaries, for the most part. There's some schools in the Sweet 16 that have homegrown talent, but for the most part, it's coming to your school based on how big the bag is.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Right. You no longer have the shared experience as go into the same classes or restaurants, or bars or just having that same connection to a school, you're just wearing the jersey for six months or so. And in that sense, it sucks. I think the quality of hoop, you're right.
Starting point is 00:47:59 It's probably better sweet succeed and beyond. The tournament's a little bit less fun. Last year we had all four ones, make the final four for the second time ever. First time was 08. It's kind of like, as from a fan, I don't know if it's true for you guys. the wins don't hit as much and the losses don't hit as much. It's like, it's like SSRI hoop. SSRI hoop, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:25 There are no highs, there are no lows. You know, in the moment it's sweet and it's living and dying. But then afterwards, it's like, all right, well, we'll just. I don't know these kids that well. Buy a club next year. Yeah, and we'll spend more money next year. Or less, you know. Or less if, yeah, you're not satisfied.
Starting point is 00:48:45 But I do think there's, God, it fucking, like some of my favorite memories are the upsets, but I guess here I am in the Chow line, no matter what. Yeah. And we were close. I mean, Sienna was up, what, 13 in that second half against Duke. Akron was close. Furman and McNeese put up fights. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:09 State was right there. Dude, there were so many games, though, that followed the exact same script where it was like you know if i and if i if i if i can remember to do it and set my jaw next year and actually do it fucking just bet favorites in the second half when they're when they're in close games yeah because it was just the same script and it was a whether it was 10 minutes left the game five minutes left in the game you know there's iowa state or whoever it is like just the pull away you know just too many run just won too many runs and i guess that's the way it is in college basketball anyways, but it just feels more pronounced now where it's like in the first
Starting point is 00:49:46 two rounds. It's almost like if the games were 30 minutes, you'd get some upsets, but these 40-minute games, they just, they just favor the favorite. And it didn't hurt. Like Virginia lost yesterday. I ate dinner. Yeah. I ate dinner afterwards. I was bracing myself for you coming in and being all like, I'm not mopey anymore. No, dude. Shout out United for having refundable plane ticket situation. you pay a little more, you can get your money back. So notoriously, Macon has watched UVA games at home, you know, throughout his, the last Yeah, away games. Yeah, refuses to be with us.
Starting point is 00:50:25 If I'm in the gym, I can watch it with people. If I'm not there, I have to watch alone. So UVA's first round game on Friday afternoon, Macon did watch it in public. I saw him and he executed probably the best because the game was pretty close in the first half. He executed the best Irish goodbye I've ever seen. Thank you, Kelly. Would you watch? I was at Cardinal Hall, K.A. Carinas.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Yeah. No shit. I, yeah, we got, because I was like, hey, I care about this less. I can be more normal. Yeah. Just go be normal. Who would have thought NIL would have rescued you socially? Have a beer in the middle of a day, like a normal.
Starting point is 00:51:04 And I was doing all these things, and then Wright State gets up five in the first half. Yeah. And I didn't say a word. I just swung my leg. over the bench and walked right out the door to my car oh just in case i went to my office to watch it on my laptop yeah i wasn't even tripping during the right state game i was at whole foods during the first half with it on the phone like going through the aisles man like no problem like because you can't kill us we're already dead dude i mean and we've already won a national
Starting point is 00:51:31 championship so we've died and we've been to the pinnacle it's like watching my son like watch virginia lose last thing's like typical virginia fashion i'm like bro you're 10 like i've seen more shit. Your lifetime includes a national championship way like what do you mean bro. You don't know what pain is man and then I got my other son picking Duke to go all the way in the bracket and he's
Starting point is 00:51:53 like why you root against Duke I'm like bro this is you got a lot to learn I then I then circled back after Virginia beat Wright State to the bar to again be a normal Calbs was still there and and Calbs didn't even
Starting point is 00:52:09 notice me walk in the door he was having such a good time being loud the loud guy at the bar yeah he was a loud guy at the bar it was dope yeah we were having a good time uh i did not notice making come back in he tapped me on the shoulder when he was leaving the second time uh non-irish goodbye um one thing that this tournament now doesn't allow for going back to the nil and uh players moving around conversation Washington state in 2020 23 2004 they had these players and these players would still be eligible for this team for this tournament this year. Isaac Jones and Jalen Wells,
Starting point is 00:52:45 both currently in the NBA. Yeah. Oscar Clough, the big fella for Purdue. Yep. Robin Chinilu from Florida. Okay. Hacking dudes on Iowa last night. And our guy, Dylan Darling, the Darling for St. John's. That was so funny because they went to the,
Starting point is 00:53:04 he hit this amazing game winning shot and they went to the panel and Chaylon Rose was like, yeah, it's just bad defense. And it really was. It was bad defense. We probably do need to have a universal ball in college basketball. Yeah, what's going on with the inflation and the deflation? It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Unders. I'm kind of on board with if that ball is deflated, a touch it goes in for Vandy. Yeah, but that's okay. But you also don't see a lot of three quarter court shots that online. so like you don't see that many clang into the rim like that's how hard a fucking ball hits a rim like i mean the other really close kentucky's was the butler shot yep yeah that almost went down yeah but okay you like ken palm right sure kempom guy he's a home efficiency sure do me fuck every time i ask you about anything you're like well let me give you this do this list of ken pom teams more of a bart
Starting point is 00:54:06 torvett guy okay um but this is interesting because in 2022 that was the last year that we were like NIL free the tournament was was unaffected by N IL and in that year there was only one team with a Ken Palm efficiency rating north of 30 whatever that means and it was an yeah and it was Yukon okay this year no it's Gonzaga this year there's eight yeah there's eight teams more efficient than Gonzaga that year. Eight of them. So effectively
Starting point is 00:54:42 the way it was put was our four seeds now are like the two and three seeds from that tournament as far as quality of play. Right. And the 10 through 16 are not getting any better. Probably getting worse. Correct. I think the vast majority of people are saying, cool, cool, don't care about the efficiency. Want to
Starting point is 00:55:00 see the amateur basketball played like it was. More parity. More upsets. Anything can happen. I suppose. I'm going to hold my, because that would be my take. It's my knee-jerk take. I like chaos. I like all that shit. But like, some of these games have been really fucking high quality. Yep, for sure. Like, watching Arkansas play, it's a lot of fucking fun. By the way, I got Houston. I need Houston to win this. If Houston wins a national championship, it's like a Kia. Oh, damn. Yeah. So I'm a big Cougars fan now. Well, Path just got a little easier. Do you feel, well, with Florida out, do you feel like Houston can win the whole thing?
Starting point is 00:55:39 Absolutely. Kingston Fleming's, he's 6'4, he's smaller, but he can easily have a Carmel like run through this tournament. He'll just take it over. Do you buy the A-Ment, Kevin Durant thing? A little bit. God, he's fucking, he's talented. You just don't want him inbound in the ball.
Starting point is 00:55:56 No, or catching an in-bounds. Just get him out of there. Yeah, the body type is very similar. Holy shit. There are many who would tell you Nate A-Ment is the guy who got Tony Bennett to finally call it quits. Really? Straw that broke the camel's back, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Would you be one of those people? I don't know enough, but it was kind of like, hey, can you add another zero to what you already agreed to? Right. And we'd be good. Yeah, and he was like, fuck this. See you later. That's the other thing.
Starting point is 00:56:22 College basketball is losing a lot of these awesome coaches because they don't want to play this game. And the good coaches that stick around, like, I feel like they have a major advantage. Right. Well, they've been doing it for decades. Like the Pino. or whatever. The West region's got all the coaches.
Starting point is 00:56:37 But Tennessee, we lost to Tennessee. Right. That team lifts weights. Well, they had the two, of all the dudes in that game, they had the two biggest dudes. I don't mean size-wise. I mean, Jacoby Gillespie and Nate A-Man are capital D dude. Yeah, they're dudes. They're dudes.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Can they make a run? Hmm. Iowa State's really good. I know they are. I noticed that when I bet Kentucky. And then without their back. best player without their best player against Kentucky. I know. I know. So if he's healthy, no,
Starting point is 00:57:08 I don't think they can get past Iowa State. Okay. Pull the bracket. Where do you want to be? What region? Well, let me, I'll go. East, top left. I'm going to go, I'm going to go region by region and ask you, can this team win at all? Okay. Duke. Yes. Yes. St. Johns. Yes. You think so? Well, their best player,
Starting point is 00:57:26 Zubi Adjafor, who would take on Cam Boozer because he's like the anti-boozer. Same position, six-nine guy, but he's a senior. he's been there forever. And they've got three guys who are, their three best players are seniors. So if you're going to have a team that might be slightly less talented,
Starting point is 00:57:43 they are in St. John's, you at least have the advantage of experience. And it's fucking Petino. Dude, the way you walked off the final fours. They hit the, you know. Cold as ice. It's like he just did a mob hit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:57 You know, so. And they'll be in D.C. They'll be in D.C. Think about St. Johns at MSG for the big. East. They'll travel to D.C. That's going to be pretty electric. I'm rooting for the Johnny's, man, obviously. And Michigan State.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Michigan State, UCon can both those teams? Can both those teams win at all? No. Jamal Mashburn last night at halftime. It was Big Debbie Downer on Yukon. And I think you were just being honest, but they were like, can they win it all? And he was like, no.
Starting point is 00:58:31 That UCLA team isn't very good. Ucon's looked a little shaky. While I think one of those teams could easily find themselves in the final four, I don't think they can get past Houston. Bulletboard materials. All right, scroll down. How about that UCLA Yukon coach off? I don't know if you guys saw them.
Starting point is 00:58:48 The Dickhead Bowl? Yeah. I think I think Cronin's a way bigger dickhead than Hurley. The rest told both, they gave warnings to both coaches, and both coaches, it was called on video, turned to each other, and they just laughed. They were like, yeah. I like Cronin getting a tech for basically nothing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:05 You know, like kind of just deserved it at some point. And by the way, I got Michigan State coming out of the east there. Okay. They rebound. Yeah. That's, that's my final four team. So here we are Iowa, Nebraska. I mean, the big 10 is just titty fucking everybody.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Mm-hmm. Hell yeah. Big 10, boys. There he is. Yeah. They're so good that Wisconsin lost. Yeah, dude. I mean, I didn't even watch that game.
Starting point is 00:59:31 I was actually, so like after the badgers got knocked off, I was rooting for Florida because of their jacked guy in the stands. I was like, yeah, this is my kind of team. And then they had this, they have this six foot nine dudes. I was like, fuck yeah. They got size everywhere. They got out of the court. They got in the stands. Now they're out of it.
Starting point is 00:59:49 So like I'm kind of just rooting for like Iowa, Nebraska, big time. We got Michigan State. You got all. The white guy dunking on that poor Prairie View and M guy felt racist at the beginning. That was unbelievable. I was like so aggressive. Like you can't do that. And did you see the Prairie View kids like kind of looking up and down at him like,
Starting point is 01:00:06 Jesus Christ, are you really 7-9? No, it's crazy. And looking up and he's like, it's insane. They asked the coach at half if they needed to make adjustments. The Prairie View coach, and he's like, he said something along the lines of, yeah, we need God. Yeah. I'm like, oh boy. It's going to be a Lord.
Starting point is 01:00:26 But okay, so Iowa, Nebraska. No. No. Okay. As sweet as that Nebraska team looked, playing a virtual home game. Those fans travel. That was impressive. I think you're going to want to watch that game just for the fans that are going to be shown on TV.
Starting point is 01:00:42 People are already tweeting about it. Scott Nelson said, getting ahead of this for the national media ahead of next week's week's six team game. 2025 corn for Iowa, 2.77 billion bushels, all-time record. Nebraska, only 1.97 bushels of corn produced. Damn, that's just like, um, some sort of global conflict. Yeah. It's like an arms race of some sort.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Exactly. Corn race. Um, I, I think, and I'm an idiot, but I feel like Illinois can win it all. Yeah, I think you're an idiot.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Thank you. I mean, maybe I'm just, it's the Eastern Block thing, dude, like I'm just so impressed with, um, with all the Eastern Block kids.
Starting point is 01:01:25 No, they're really good, but playing Houston and Houston. If they beat Houston, can they win it all? I don't want that to happen. Okay, Houston can win it all. That's what we need to know.
Starting point is 01:01:36 I got Houston coming out of this bracket, dude. Top rights, the West region. The West region, we've got, Arizona, Arkansas. Yes, for sure, Arizona. That team's damn good. Supremely talented. Okay, but Arkansas?
Starting point is 01:01:55 Dude. No. But A-Col. Aikov's a fucking... He's amazing. I think he could... I think he could will them to a... win over Arizona.
Starting point is 01:02:10 I just don't trust... See the best player in the tournament? I don't think it's Darren Peterson anymore. That was a rough go of it for the Kansas phenom. It's either... I tend to go with the smaller guys in the tournament. So yeah, I think it's A-Cuff or Fleming's. bamboozers in the conversation you know who my favorite player on Arkansas is who take a guess
Starting point is 01:02:36 Brazil Billy Richmond he looks so fucking cool he he he's like a 90s guy he's got black sneakers he's got mid-length socks he's got a loose t-shirt and he's just cool I like Billy Richmond a lot did you see my man for UCLA loses tooth no no run game uh uh early in the game that was tight I like that It was awesome. It was like the end of the game. I can't remember what knocked it out. Maybe somebody's elbow. Had to be somebody's arm.
Starting point is 01:03:09 But he was like, he was fired up about it. He was smiling to everybody, front tooth, just saw it all the way off. Yeah, went back in the game. Like a hockey player. Hockey player would have to miss time. It was dope. It was V dope. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:25 They struggled mightily with High Point, though. Yeah, they sure did. That was a fun game. A-Cuff can't defend. That's the problem. Okay. He's electric offensively. He can't play defense.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Okay. And then Texas, you know, it's a no. Purdue? Yes. You think so? Yeah. Yeah. This group.
Starting point is 01:03:41 So much experience. Yes. They were these guys, these seniors, led by guards, Braden Smith, Fletcher lawyer, and then big man, Trey Roth, Kaufman, Renn. They started their careers as a one seed that lost two of 16. Yeah. The next year, They're in the national championship game and lose.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Last year they were a four seed, I think performed about to seed. So this is their last go of it. I mean, this is how you end storybooks with a ring, with the title. Yeah, I guess so. You started with a 116? You know, it's not the year. You're right. We've been there?
Starting point is 01:04:19 Yeah, we've been there. A lot of experience. Some interesting beards on that team. Okay, I got Arizona coming out of that bracket there. And then we've got Michigan and Bama. I mean, obviously Michigan can win it all. Yeah. They're incredible.
Starting point is 01:04:39 I think Alabama's too inconsistent. I think that's Michigan. Okay. You got Michigan. And then Tennessee, Iowa State, you already gave the answer there. You think Iowa State wins that game. But can Iowa State win it all? For sure.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Yeah? Yeah. I don't think they do. I think it's Michigan out of the Midwest. Well, that, okay, so I had Virginia coming out of this region. in here. Okay. So I'm still three of four.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Who'd you have in your final four? I had the Duke Blue Devils. Okay. The Houston Cougars, Purdue Boilermakers, and Michigan Wolverines. Interesting. All right, well, hopefully
Starting point is 01:05:17 I win some of these bets. Michigan over Duke. Michigan over Duke? Yep. I got Houston over Arizona. I like it a lot. Houston over Arizona. my kids are making fun of me because I'm like last place in the bracket yeah I get that a lot too
Starting point is 01:05:35 I'm like all right keep it up see who drives your school tomorrow you did today yeah I did I saw you cruising yeah yeah I saw you too late to uh you know college really yeah they fucking hate me in the the drop off line they think it's like child abuse that my kids that we don't have like a floor board to you know like one of those uh oh they really step step downs yeah parachute oh no you know is a big truck, which automatically is like minus 10 points in the carpool line. Like the teachers, they look at me like I'm a fucking hillbilly. Yeah, you need to have a luxury SUV. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:09 And then the kids like hop out and they got to jump all the way down because I didn't put like a step. Yeah. Yeah. Is that like a custom decision for no? No, I just, I think they look stupid to have the, I think the running boards look stupid. Plus it makes your kids more resilient. Skin, knees and such. He's got to figure it out.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Mm-hmm. all kids could use a little bit more figuring it out um okay so that college basketball i don't know listen but don't bet the dogs it's changed forever maybe maybe not maybe not you're also not not going to kill it it's still sweet no it's amazing this this is better than almost anything even without the upsets this weekend's incredible i don't know how many times i turn to my kids and said this is madness It's so fun to like impart it upon your kids like when they get to the age where they get to you because I can remember I can remember being like 12 years old Going to school making like two dollar bets like having a little sheet. No, I mean we'd be like at art class Maybe five five dollar bets sometimes betting NCAA tournament games my kid had warmed my heart the other day my kid
Starting point is 01:07:20 On the way to school was like where's my ten dollars he's got like a hundred and twenty dollars saved. Oh. He's 10 years old. He's got $120. He's like, where's my $10? 10. I couldn't find it's $10. I was like, you might want to get like a piggy bank, bro. But he's entering a bracket. He's got a $10 bracket that is, which is a little bit financially unwise to put, you know, one-twelfth of your life savings on a bracket. Like this kid's ripping you off. But it did my heart. Yeah. Like it made me feel warm inside to know that my kids have. the same hobbies. They're not weird.
Starting point is 01:07:58 Yeah, gambling. Gambling. Just got to get them into zones and then they'll really have the same hobbies as you, Chris. Do this. Probably, that's the problem here. You're starting to think about having the talk with them? About gambling. Nope.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Not that one. Which one? The other one. Sex? Claving cheeks. What age is that? For me, not applicable. Never happened.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Never got that one. You never got the talk? No, no. Just they avoided it? Correct. Oh, that's so funny. I remember I did. like the uno reverse of my mom.
Starting point is 01:08:28 She like started to have the talk and I was like, I know what this is about. I was like, that's why when I see a pretty girl, my penis sticks up. She was like, whoa, fuck. So they just didn't do the talk with you. No, no. Nah. Mm-mm. How'd you figure it out?
Starting point is 01:08:53 Um, I couldn't tell you. I no we didn't have the internet like that we had like aOL but you know if he if it was the internet for him he probably didn't find out until almost when we were driving well
Starting point is 01:09:09 yeah you can say that again he probably almost didn't find out until when we were driving so so no talk for you what age did you get to talk I think I was in fifth grade oh fourth or fifth grade So how old are you there?
Starting point is 01:09:26 10 years old? 10 years old, yeah. Is that too late? No, it's too early. Okay, so then why did you try to bait me in the house? I just asked. I'm not trying to bait anybody, all right? I just asked if you were thinking about it, if you were lining it up.
Starting point is 01:09:40 I did have the world worth free talk with him the other day. Okay, see, that's what I'm saying. That's irrelevant. Yeah, you know, I'm not adverse to having hard conversations, but it's kind of a team thing where I got to check in with. my lovely wife maybe yeah maybe it should be her yeah no okay do you do you think it'll be a duel you know both sons i got a couple talks that i have to have that talk the why why or my allergy is always acting up when i come off the porch talk which is a talk that i'm itching to have just take a
Starting point is 01:10:16 lot of pressure off me you know fuck man the other night we had a tornado watch all day meg was all blowing it off. No big deal. They never happened. No big deal. Came about 5 o'clock when the watch window opened up. I walk in the kitchen. She said, are you high right now? During a tornado
Starting point is 01:10:38 watch? I said it's fucking 5 o'clock. I'm high. Are you really going to do this right now? You didn't give a fuck about the tornado watch until What if you have to hell and hunt us out of here?
Starting point is 01:10:56 I said, I said, listen, the guy who just hit a lefty cigarette is going to be the first guy to say get in the basement. I was standing outside staring at the clouds. I was like, I'm like a watchdog, dude. And by the way, I said, I'm not that high. I go, by the way, is there anything you need me to do to prepare for this possible tornado? And she said, no. So what the fuck are we talking about right now?
Starting point is 01:11:21 I'm ready to go, dude. I'm ready. Um, so yeah, talks. That's a good question making. Yeah. Thank you. Um, speaking of good questions. Jim, jim, jim.
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Starting point is 01:12:35 States and the Olympics over NFLers? Yeah, dude. Yeah. Absolutely. That's they that's the NFL guys don't have time to do it. Like listen, those guys are better. That quarterback, he took way too much ship for what he said about Patrick Mahomes. I think what he meant was I'm a better flag football quarterback than Patrick Mahomes, which is probably true. But if you gave Patrick Mahomes like a year to practice flag football, I don't know, six months or like, and also I got to be honest with you, I don't know how hard these NFL players are going in this game.
Starting point is 01:13:17 There is no way. They certainly have a lot more to lose. none of them prep for this like you kidding me dude i was playing pickleball with rob with grok like two weeks ago and he's in between games like doing little wind sprints on the pickleball courts he's like i got to get ready for the flag football thing i'm like yeah buddy you're really you're really doing that's about it we got to fucking play he fucking tears his hamstring during the game like dude none of these none of these guys trained for this all right it's probably just some sort of fanatics deal that they had shoehorned into their car deal and they're like all right
Starting point is 01:13:49 let's go do this and make it make it fun and interesting it's like a promo event man dude they look like they're in quicksand this is incredible but this is not this is way different than football remember when mal hit that guy during the super bowl yes that's that's what's happening right there yes but it's not but it's a different sport it's flag football they're better at flag football there's it no if sands or butts about it um is that logan paul yep Logan paul is in there, Luke Keekely. Dog. If Logan Paul is in, listen, I don't, I don't want to smoke Logan Paul.
Starting point is 01:14:22 I just don't, I just don't want to consume any Logan Paul content, dude. Just please. Please, I'll fight you, anything. I just don't want to have to watch anything with Logan Paul on it, dude. Stingy defense from the, from Team USA that a couple pick sixes. Look at this ankle flexion. I mean, they got some elite characteristics. These are great athletes, dude.
Starting point is 01:14:43 And they're better at flag football than NFL players. Would that hold if NFL players decided that they wanted to be flag football players? I think maybe so. I don't know. Y'all got big ass chunky bodies. Yeah, but not all of us. There was that we had a great deep shot. Jalen Hertz said Devontas Smith.
Starting point is 01:15:02 That looked like you could make a little money on the... Talk about boners, man. Look at that flexion. And it was so funny. Somebody was like, yo, the streamer guy shows. speed like he's running with devante smith i'm like oh cool he's fast guy ran track his name is i show speed now run a route or play man defense you know or track to ball a duo block 30 times a game oh come on man y'all NFL players have sound like sour grapes to me no i'm basically okay let me just give
Starting point is 01:15:40 my thesis on this all right like these dudes are impressive athletes is a very different sport than football. I think that any skill position football player, if they give, I don't know, any NFL skill position player, if they commit a year of training, could be an elite flag football. Six months.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Six months, yes. If they commit themselves to it for six months to a year, whatever it is, they can be an elite flag football player. There is no dudes on this flag football team if they commit six months to a year that will play in it. the whole roster that is just straight up truth
Starting point is 01:16:15 sorry that's how I feel about it damn bro dropping the second one's definitely true I'm just not sure about the first one unless you're talking about everybody's Darren Sprouls I'm talking about any like handpick for a skill position
Starting point is 01:16:31 handpick or sorry any starter at a skill position for any team in the NFL handpick guys that are not built for contact necessarily on a spectrum of like bulky bodies they're more like jitterbug type guys or you know kind of more like streetball players you know like uh take a wide receiver like that give him time to become a a flag football player i think he's going to be that
Starting point is 01:16:54 and and i think half it is like these guys don't even know like the rules strategy like it's a whole new thing for them and so yeah i mean flag full hey you know what you get your get back for us talking all that shit about you for making bold statements that turned out to be true but like kind of a technicality you know we're haters no i'm not hating bro i'm just being i'm being honest and also i'm hating i'm glad the NFL players got beat dude like i'm really yeah i'm kind of glad
Starting point is 01:17:25 because because because i don't NFL players need to be humbled yeah fuck yeah dude we're out here doing a fanatics thing it's a big circle jerk we're all so famous dude like take this l dude do you play these fucking black football guys who are making like 50 grand a year I don't know what they're making. Playing their absolute hardest. Yeah, dude, take this out.
Starting point is 01:17:45 All the NFL guys are out there against the fucking pro bowl. Oh, man, it's so good. No, but you know what? I mean, do you want my take? It doesn't matter. What, like, why were we watching that? Memento Mori. I'm with you, dog.
Starting point is 01:18:01 No, but like, it doesn't matter. You know what matters? Flag football could be fun. Flag football could be fun. No, well, maybe, maybe I'm talking myself into it. If they figured out a way to make it presentable and put some like twists, I think flag football might have more staying power than like second and third, you know, tackle football leagues.
Starting point is 01:18:24 You know how they've never been able to stick? I do. Whether it be the XFL or the USFL or the UFO, whatever. Oh, but we'll stick them in February. Dude, put a bunch of fucking streamers and famous people who are athletic on flag football teams and like that that's going to stick because that's the world we live in now it's like guy who's on spends all day on youtube is like way more famous than the NFL players yeah i don't know i enjoy it my kids play it it's fun it's fun to watch
Starting point is 01:18:57 if you were a bangles fan how nervous were you uh watching joe burrow take those two yeah dude like i don't want him out there the ye i don't even want him running around he he took off and ran like I was like what are you doing dog yeah it's like what are you doing what are you doing man yeah so yeah i don't know tom brady looked good though Tom Brady was firing that fucking pigskin in the locker room at groves you see that dodge you see a bunch of dudes were like standing there watching yeah just staring at him and he was just fucking rifle in the ball of gronk um who else like who else played in this game that was uh and is defan digs on a team yes he's on founder fFC with Tom Brady, Terrence Crawford, Steph, Rob Gruncowski,
Starting point is 01:19:44 Damar Hamlin, Jalen Hertz, Ashen Genti, Alvin Kamara, Von Miller, Patrick Peterson, Devon Smith, and Antoine Winfield, Jr. What about an NFL team? I think he was asking about the NFL. No, I don't think so. Not right now. You know who is on an NFL team? Romeo Doves.
Starting point is 01:20:01 Romeo Doves. My dude. I'm sure we'll talk more about free agency later in the week. Maybe. Do you want to hit the furniture? Oh, I mean, I don't know if you guys are going to like this, but like my timeline is pretty special. Well, I know that. Speaking of the furniture, making, this is actually what I was thinking about for your house.
Starting point is 01:20:27 I've never seen a guy slap a couch's ass before, but this guy is just manhandling these couches. I was stoned the other night, and I probably, I probably did 20. 25 minutes on this page, dude. It's just this dude from, I suppose, China, smacking the fuck out of these big, ugly, lightweight, poorly built couches. Look at the way they slide across the floor. I know how this got to the Algo. How did it get to the Algo?
Starting point is 01:20:58 The first two words are Ebony Wood. That's funny. That's funny. Instagram page is Y Home Baby. Why Home Baby? Why home baby? get you a couch man get you a couch with like a fucking dragon head on the on the on the on the arm they ship worldwide they ship worldwide they're in their bio it's going to take like four months to get to you
Starting point is 01:21:22 the couch is going to be huge wait why is this all like normal i don't know this is bizarre but i really like this why home baby guy um might have just sourced my my living room dinette bedroom You need to call them. A little trip down to Montgomery. Yeah, to Montgomery. Why don't we make a pilgrimage? Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:47 I'll bring Nate. Yeah. Do a little content. Yeah, that's perfect. Ask him if they heard about Tulane. Myself and Bo sat down with the great Michael Bennett in San Francisco, which feels like six months ago. But how long ago was that? but let's not remind the listeners
Starting point is 01:22:09 six weeks six weeks yeah but it's man that does feel like forever it's a great dude that was awesome yeah what's never this was awesome or Mike yeah well both I guess but I like Mike more than San Francisco dude he's such a funny motherfucker like he's willing he just says everything that's on his mind
Starting point is 01:22:27 and just loves like just watching him interact with people that I've never met him before and like them trying to figure him out a little bit is just a treat you know he he's he's a smart dude but he loves fucking with people and people don't usually realize that until it's too late and it's it's just gold he definitely loves fucking with people i'll give you that he is one of a kind and uh you will enjoy that interview so check that out i'll be out later in the week um otherwise you all take care

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