Green Light with Chris Long - Richard Seymour! HOF Election, Playing with Brady & Poker. CBB Bet & the NFL Draft Combine

Episode Date: March 4, 2022

(2:14) - Hello, Layup Line, DM Tara Reid and GLP College Basketball Bet. (22:00) - Richard Seymour on Being Elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Winning Three Super Bowls with the New England Pat...riots, Career in Oakland and Playing Poker. (1:03:23) - Chris, Macon, Matt and Taylor Talk Hand Size and Bench Press at the NFL Draft Combine, Most Negatively Tweeted-About People in the NFL, Being a Dog and Sexiest and Least Sexy Names and More! Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:22 New Hall of Famer Richard Seymour joins to discuss his legendary career and some of his favorite Super Bowl memories. Then we talk about the NFL combine and the lives of dogs. Enjoy. Have you noticed that Reed, producer of the Greenlight podcast, The Cowboy, has not attended one taping of GLP in the month of March, Women's History Month. Oh, that's, that is interesting.
Starting point is 00:02:29 That does interest me. Tell me more. It is Women's History Month, and Reed has not cared to show up for work. Maybe he has cared. Do you want to speak to that? I do want to speak to that. You know, when I said that
Starting point is 00:02:41 Rie could take as much time as he won. You said you wouldn't even be mad until May. Right, exactly. And he took that. I didn't mean like go to Colorado and get coronavirus. COVID-19. COVID-22. And it's a little awkward because the state of the union happened and Joe Biden said COVID's over
Starting point is 00:02:57 and now Reed's just milking this fucking thing like the entire week. And so the Women's History Month thing, the Joe Biden's State of the Union thing, it just doesn't look good for Reef. No, no. But it looks good for read because it is not as easy doing a podcast without read. No, but he's got to be worried about being Wally Pipped.
Starting point is 00:03:16 I mean, this, this show keeps on moving. It keeps on moving? I mean, shows out. Y'all are listening to it. Here's what we need to do for Cowboy Reed and we can't wait till Cowboy Reid gets back. We need to, so what I want everybody do is hop on Instagram and write, read a heartfelt get-well comment. comment under somebody's Instagram. What do you say?
Starting point is 00:03:44 Read, read, read, read. How about Tara Reid? Terra Reid. That's good. So go to Tara Reid's Instagram. Raid, Tara Reeds, IG. Reading and raiding. With Get Well Soon messages for Cowboy Read. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:00 You can find her at T-A-R-A-R-E-I-D. You remember her? Yeah. Big Lebowski by the pool she was fucking the nihilist Chesapeake Virginia Hello
Starting point is 00:04:15 ooh it's coming back it's coming back Chesapeake why no reason why okay I'm in that stage of my hellos where there's no reason why
Starting point is 00:04:26 Southeast Virginia soft shell crab or the other crab oh well that's vague but soft shell crabs I love soft shell crabs yeah it's the best crab a lot of people like just straight crab like lump crab meat, crab cakes.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Okay, there you are. It is the home of Percy Harvin, DeAngelo Hall, and Alonzo Morning. Yeah. The Angelo Hall? We're going to bring up a hokey. Oh, was he a hokey? Me, Angelo, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Yeah. Hey, be quick with Layup Line today. I mean, I know you want to, you like the shuffle thing. Should we do shuffle? I mean, I have a Dwayne Allman song. But did you know Dwayne Allman play guitar in the best version of Hey Jude that was ever,
Starting point is 00:05:06 recorded that was the Wilson Pickett version I did not know that I want to hear that right now you've never heard Hey Jude by Wilson Pickett no oh my god I do double because what I came here to say was I've been listening to going down slow a lot that's a Dwayne Almond song but actually it's not Dwayne Alman I think it's Lightning Hopkins redone by Dwayne Alman but if
Starting point is 00:05:29 you like Hey Jude this could hurt because Wilson Pickett's versions better, but go listen to Wilson Pickett's version of Hey Jude and Dwayne Allman play guitar on there. That according to a guy in my group text. Wow. Yeah, so that will be sourced appropriately and if that's not true, it's not my fault. Either way, great song. Halen Wolf. Going down slow was Halen Wolf. Make. Let me be the first to wish your son Waylon a happy birthday on this podcast. You did it. You did it. But you're late. You're late. Well, hey, I wanted to be the first on this podcast. He got all the Who Would Win books.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Oh, nice. Yeah, he's six years old. It is hard when your kids grow up, man. Is it? Holy shit. It's like the kids, the kid's a boy. He's a boy. It's really difficult.
Starting point is 00:06:26 But it's also awesome because now we're into the same stuff. Who would win books? Video games. We play Switch together. Balls. The whole thing. Like catch throwing out. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Yeah. But yeah, no, I know. Happy birthday. Waylon, you know, we spent the day together and didn't get a text from Uncle Macon, but. Huh. I liked your wife's IG posts, so I thought that was enough. I didn't post on IG. I spent the entire day with my son.
Starting point is 00:06:52 When she posted that at 11 p.m., I was in his room just staring at him. So I didn't have any time to post on IG, but happy birthday, Whalen. And speaking of Waylon's birthday, the best present he got was a video from Cowboy Reed in quarantine. Reed goes, you want me to send him a video real quick? And I'm like, fuck yeah, because my kids love Reed. Like, Reed's like a celebrity of my kids. Hard cut iPhone resting on somebody's roof, presumably reads, just like a yard and like trees behind it and like some other houses.
Starting point is 00:07:26 And then all of a sudden... The opposite of a quarantine. He's exposed to the entire world. On his own roof. Yeah, you're right. But, you know... Aerosols. Anyways, Reed has a, he has a dinosaur suit, dude,
Starting point is 00:07:41 and he's dancing around on the fucking roof with a dinosaur suit on. You know the T-Rex suits? Yeah. So he's dancing around for probably two and a half minutes on the roof. At the end, he tries to take the T-Rex mask off and say, happy birthday, well, but it flies back down and covers his face again while he's trying to say. But he sent one take because he had already put three very hard minutes of effort in that and Reed you made
Starting point is 00:08:07 Wayland's Day. I want to know when you were doing this man. Because you know we're roommates and everything. I went to the gym or something and then he was like oh here's my chance to go put on this dinosaur outfit. You know what? You know what we got to do next week? We sit up here and we lay all our
Starting point is 00:08:24 issues bare. Grievances. I mean we have fucking really argued on this show. Yeah. These guys live together and we've never asked who's a shitty roommate. Like what have long has it been? Oh, it's like a little bit less in a year, eight months. Oh, that's a huge sample size.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Yeah. And both JMU. So we need to, when Reed gets back in studio next week, we need to do a segment, segment on how, who's the worst roommate in that house? Cowboy Reed, uh, thank you for the video. If and when. Yeah. Hey, it's March, right?
Starting point is 00:08:57 It's March. March Madness. March Madness. I can feel it in the air. It's warm. I'm wearing shorts. My fingers are itching to hit that wind bed out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Best, best month for sports. We got the tournament upcoming, and we're going to have a little bet here in studio. Everybody's in. You're not going to react to that. And here's, we're going to pick teams out of a hat. What you just did, you're not going to react to it. Oh, Chris, I'm not six years old, right?
Starting point is 00:09:24 Like your son whaling, coincidentally, who might find some enjoyment in what just happened. We're, never pushed one out during a podcast. You pick a team from a hat. Like my god Oh my god dude That smells like
Starting point is 00:09:40 Fuck the inside of a sulfur mine You know You make fun But honestly people have health issues It's really you shouldn't You go on You can never know
Starting point is 00:09:53 Go on We're gonna pick teams out of a hat If your team wins the national championship You have to get a tattoo Relating to that team So basically we came up with this With this bet copyrighted here.
Starting point is 00:10:05 So there's six guys in this office and when we're at full strength. Right now we're down one of our best players. He's got COVID, which is not a thing anymore. Okay. See the state of the union. It's not a thing. Read, come back anytime. Except wait until you
Starting point is 00:10:21 test negative. On that NFL suspended all COVID protocols today. Oh, I know. And shout out to Cole Beasley. I was on Jimmy Trainers' podcast. and I was speaking in general like I was talking in generalities about kind of like my feeling on people complaining about the COVID protocols which are a pain in the ass or were a pain in the ass but also like were the barrier between you and making millions of dollars I hate to sound like Joe fan but I was kind of like hey shut the fuck up guys like just shut up and play uh but that was a little harsh to say shut the fuck up and I want to apologize to Cole Beasley uh if you ever heard
Starting point is 00:11:03 definitely did we're practically first take if you ever heard me getting quoted a little bit out of context telling him directly to shut the fuck up I know that was a hard couple years for those guys and I appreciate the guys working their asses off to to meet the protocols and entertain fans at home so I mean like I'm glad we're moving on and for the guys that that respected it and went about it the right way thank you your your professionals like Cowboy Reed and when Cowboy Reed gets back, we'll be at full strength.
Starting point is 00:11:37 And what we're going to do is put all the one through eight seeds in the NCAA tournament in a hat. We're going to put them on piece of paper. Maybe a lottery, lottery drum. Yeah, lottery drum. It's going to be a lottery. Good.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Thank you. And all the guys in the studio are going to pick a name out of school out of the hat. And whatever school you end up with, you have to root against that school. Because if that school wins a national championship, you're getting a tattoo. when the tattoo is, I mean, like, loosely themed. So let's say Duke wins.
Starting point is 00:12:07 You can get like a devil. Like you can make it a tough looking devil. It doesn't have to be blue. Or maybe it does have to be blue. Does it have to incorporate the school's colors? No, I think it can be loosely related. If you attribute the title to Coach K, the big old K. If.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Oh, my wife. What? Kate. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You could kind of lay that into it. Hey, babe. I mean, agreed upon by everybody.
Starting point is 00:12:31 of course. Yes, yes. Yeah. And we're not gonna be harsh. I mean, the loser has to get a tattoo. You can get it anywhere on your body. You name another school. Kentucky, K.
Starting point is 00:12:40 I mean, easy. I got a wild cat. Yeah, you get a paw. Paw. Paa. Gonzaga. Who's the toughest high seed probably this year to tattoo?
Starting point is 00:12:50 Well, I mean, most teams have a Hoosier. Hoosiers aren't real good this year. I read their, uh, they're actually on the outside looking at now. Their war or whatever the fuck is pretty low. The metrics on them are not great. They're net. Not a lot of quality wins. Yeah, they're net.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Not high on the Ken Palm. Baylor would be both easy and hard. It's a bear. It's a bear. It just relates to Bayer. It's a bear breaking NCAA protocols. Yeah, at the very least. At the very least.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Murder. Yeah, like murder. Providence friars. There you go. That's a tougher one. Scary mascot. If I ever go to prison and I have a Providence friar mascot tatted on me like no, but he's going to fuck with me.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Not the Aryans, not the tough street gangs, not the Hispanic gangs, nobody. It's a beautiful bet, though, because you could wind up with the seven and you're feeling good, starts to make a run. Could I put like an air friar on my thigh?
Starting point is 00:13:48 We'd have to talk about it. Okay. I'm going to say yes to that. Yeah, because you'd rather me have that. All right, so here's a deal, dude. Like one unlucky player here is going to go home with a tattoo. On the other hand, I'm going to cede this at $1,500 for the way. Oh, I was thinking 10K.
Starting point is 00:14:07 All right. You're thinking 10K? Yeah. Well, it's your money. It's my money. Yeah, exactly. And I need it now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:14 So I think we're going to go, $2,000. Okay. $2,000. So the second name that you draw, the second school that you draw, is going to be your, I'm rooting for this team, school. If that school wins a national championship, you get a, at two grand. That's right. So six people participating 12 teams out of eight times four is 32. So maybe nothing happens. Nobody draws a winner or a loser. Maybe, but somebody might be walking
Starting point is 00:14:41 home with two grand. Somebody might be walking home with a tattoo. Boy, I hope so. It's such a fun bet. It's a fun bet. Yeah. So to warm up for that, we bet on a game today. The Sunbelt. That's right. Everybody's glued to it. The Sunbelt tourney has started a couple teams were playing at 1230. I got it. U.T. Arlington and Louisiana Lafayette. You said you liked UTA. Yeah. So I took the raging Cajuns minus three and a half. Yep.
Starting point is 00:15:06 And the stakes we came up with. Sunbelt tourney. So the stakes in the Sunbelt tourney are. The loser of this bet, and we don't know the result, it's 2.29 at time of tape. That game is just about done, huh? It's just about done. The loser is going to have to sing the entirety of a song
Starting point is 00:15:22 at the end of our next pod. With the word sun and the title. The sun's got a word, son's got to be in the title. What are you going to do if you lose? I'll tell you what I'm going to do. You'll tell me what you're going to do. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Probably like Walking on Sunshine. So there's a song about Willie Nelson called Lucky Old Sun that I think it's probably an easy, easy one to do. And I know most of it. And it might be Ray Charles or somebody else. Originally, you never know with these old country songs. But I will sing the Willie Nelson song. And it's got to be at the end of the pod next time.
Starting point is 00:15:55 And you really got to sing, dude. Oh, yeah. You really got to fucking sing. You can't like hum it or do like a marching band thing or like speed through it. You got to sing the song. Agreed. And that's how we'll close the next pod. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:06 So, gents in the back. What's the score of this fucking game? All right. So tell us what the score is and then tell us who's winning. Oh, but hold on. Okay. And I want to know if it's any time on the clock right now. Is there time?
Starting point is 00:16:18 Yeah. Can I do? Yeah. Can we do time first? And then you can score and then who. Yeah. With one minute and 40 seconds. plenty of time plenty of time that's a world of time
Starting point is 00:16:29 62 to 53 come on Louisiana Louisiana Lafayette has God let's go let's go it's March I like taking the dogs let's go I and I what's that reverse psychology I'm up nine with a minute 40 but like I said that's a world of time according to action network the computers were on oh you did a little research huh hey you're two threes away from yeah a couple threes away yeah a couple rebounds here keep us posted
Starting point is 00:16:57 Keep us posted. You might be getting to more and else at the end of the next pod. Damn it. All right, the game's at a quick timeout. So until it comes back makes, did you get any more feedback about if listening to an audio book is reading? So in my DMs, which are very open, Tom, at Tom Vanders writes,
Starting point is 00:17:18 I feel obligated to say out of solidarity, I've been making that same book on tape take for several years now. When you listen to a book on tape, you are of course consuming the story. but you are absolutely not reading the book. It's incorrect and a lie to say so. That's not to lessen or diminish those who choose to consume stories this way, love is love,
Starting point is 00:17:36 but it's simply something that must be disclosed in conversation for the sake of transparency and goodwill. Hey, listen, thank you for finding a good fight. Thank you, Tom. How could I possibly consume that? I heard it. I didn't read it. No, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:17:49 You just didn't read the words. You just didn't read the words. You didn't read the word that was just said to me because I didn't read it. You didn't read the, what's the score in the Louisiana game? 6459 with 20 seconds to go Oh how do we turn this on Somebody have Sunbelt Network Foul them
Starting point is 00:18:02 Somebody have Sunbelt network There is a foul they'll be playing the free throw game Damn dude Louisiana's going to the line yeah Holy shit What did you eat today You saw it You paid for it
Starting point is 00:18:15 Probably the falafel But there's the tabooly too In the green beans And I just want to apologize Okay quick break Oh no 6764 with two seconds remaining. Is there a foul?
Starting point is 00:18:28 Is there a foul? They got a foul, right? Louisiana has a ball? UTA just hit a three-pointer. They're going to try to go first. They got to play for a steal, probably. With two seconds? Fowling doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:18:38 They're down three. You've got to play for a steel. I think playing for a steel is the only way here. With two seconds? You're not going to get a steel. They have to foul. No, they got to play for the steel, guys. All right, what's happening?
Starting point is 00:18:48 What's happening? Even if nothing's happening, just say nothing's happening. Refresh your sunbelt app. UT Arlington just made a three to make. it's 6764 and they're telling you the same two seconds left they got a foul right refresh like real talk enhance real talk enhance oh well okay here's what they actually have to do virginia did this not too long ago in louisville they want to get a five second call but short of that you have to foul on the inbound the ball was tipped out of bounds in a group so they're slow motioning the replay
Starting point is 00:19:15 currently to see whose fingertips the ball last touch before rolling out of my god replay overreach so then they're going to get the ball and try three and no matter what you're you're going to cover. I'm going to cover, dude. That's unreal. We're up nine, up nine with under two. That's how we started this segment. Yep. UTA possession is the result of the review. Oh, the cover. They get a chance to tie it up. Your pipes. You wanted to sing. Whatever. No, I'll sing with you. No, no, it's all good. Okay. All right. Can't wait. Two point three seconds remaining. Make a last name. About to inbound the ball number 20. Don't make it. Smith, Johnson.
Starting point is 00:19:54 and Jackson just make we go the refs handing them the ball oh no another time out you know something like football does have end of game right yes baseball end of game right no question basketball not so much wow soccer does a decent i mean sometimes extra time can go yeah yeah it'll sometimes go a little too long thing i like about extra time is it's something exciting about not knowing exactly what the fuck is going on yeah you know like plus five what does that mean right I mean like, I'm just waiting. If you want me to explain it, I don't have five minutes of extra time. But like at home, you got a beer in your hand.
Starting point is 00:20:31 You're watching a footy with seven dudes. Like, you don't know exactly when that whistle's going to blow. It's stressful. MBA's probably got it the worst. Something to be said for that ELA Mending. ELA Mending. All right. Richard Seymour has some swag.
Starting point is 00:20:45 It's a, how would you, what color is that? Mustard jacket? Yeah, it's mustard. Mustard. It's not cold, it's mustard. To tie a bow on this open, please, please go to Tara Reid's Instagram account. Yeah, please wish Cowboy Reed. And tell Cowboy Reed to get well soon.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Tell them whatever you want to tell them. But definitely go read, comma, so Tara Reet, oh, that's really tough. Maybe Cowboy Reed. Cowboy Reed. Or even y'all figure it out. Yeah. If you're in Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, New Jersey, New York, Tennessee, or Virginia, and you haven't tried the windbed app yet,
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Starting point is 00:21:42 Gambling problem in Arizona, call 1-800 Next Step. In Colorado, Indiana, New Jersey, and Virginia, call 1-800 gambler. And in Michigan, 1-800-2707-1-17. In New York, 1-8778-8-8-8-8-8-9-7-8-9. All right, this is a pleasure. One of my favorite players of all-time, overdue, Hall of Famer. Richard Seymour has joined us, and he's joining us from one of the nicest houses I ever saw on...
Starting point is 00:22:15 You know when guys knock on the door, and they tell the guys that they're in the Hall of Fame, Richard's house is sweet. Yeah, some guys are like, hey, let me step out on the front step. I want to show you the inside of my house. Like, come on in. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Well, hey, that's only because we got so many kids. That's it. Yeah, no, but I definitely appreciate it. That was awesome, man. I mean, like, you know how people have to act like they don't know what's coming? You weren't acting, were you? No, I wouldn't act. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:44 No, I'll say this. That morning, it got a little weird because my wife was still here. The kids was like, oh, we Zoom. in from school today. So it just kind of got like, well, what's going on? And then, you know, I saw Ty kind of walking up, da, da, da, da, da. So I just kind of started. But I had no clue earlier.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Actually, all of the inductees, like we knew like two weeks before. So I was surprised that it didn't leak out. Right. Yeah, we talked to Tony as well. And it was like the best kept secret with him. He couldn't even tell some close friends. But if I had one critique of Tye's performance, there. It was, the knock
Starting point is 00:23:26 was really fucking aggressive. When I was inside, I was like, who is this knocking on my door this aggressively? We got problems. That is an aggressive knock. So we have a thing on this show where we say, you know, if you want to knock on somebody's door, how many times do you knock? Are you a two-knock guy or a three-knock guy, Richard?
Starting point is 00:23:49 If you're going to knock on somebody's door and you don't want to scare them? I'm probably just because of my stature, I'm probably going to go two knocks. My man. So this is fucked, man. Because, see, I think knock, knock is like somebody's coming to get you or somebody's serving something or, you know, the police are at the door, you know. And so I like to go knock, knock, knock. It seems a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Yeah, probably right now I'm probably going to be a two-knock guy. Yeah. You're overcompensating. Richard Seymour's a two-knock guy. And that's good. Okay. So, Tileaw, a little less aggressive. on the front door, but overall good,
Starting point is 00:24:23 and he knocked down the Georgia flag too. I saw that. But what a... Yeah, that was because of the Michigan deal. You know, Michigan took them to the yard. The dogs took Michigan to the yard shit down in Miami, so he was a little salty about that. That game was interesting for 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:24:39 But, yeah, what a year for you. Congratulations. Georgia national chance. Yeah, now you go. The Braves got it done, too. Baseball Braves got it done. Dude, you've had a year. that's incredible yeah the dogs then yeah can't so you know putting it all together all right well
Starting point is 00:24:57 uh the moment like after you find out you kept saying you were speechless once things died down was there somebody you were excited to call you know like because you hadn't been able to call anybody but once you could call somebody was there somebody in your life that you were excited to tell like listen man i got the gold jacket well i think you know as everybody that's been on the journey with you, you know? I mean, I mean, it's the crowning jewel. You know, it's, you know, so to share to share that moment, you know, that special moment with my wife, my kids, call my mom, you know, I think, you know, just, you know, my dad's passed away, but, you know, he's the one that meant the most, you know, and started my football career. So, you know, I think
Starting point is 00:25:42 it's my family. And then you think about your coaches and everybody that, you know, who was a part of the process and a part of your story and part of your journey. I tell my wife all the time, like, I don't need anniversary retreats and, you know, banquets for me and that sort of thing. You know, I prefer to be behind the scenes. Well, you know, from being in the three, four, you know, like, that's just a life is different. Life is different there, you know. But, you know, it's, it's, you know, to say it's an honor will be an understatement. And, you know, like I said so for me it's it's the people who want the journey with so yeah you just alluded to it like you do you did a lot of dirty work to get this jacket you did things that most guys would be like
Starting point is 00:26:25 man I don't want to do that I'm Richard Seymour I'm like awesome I should be doing I should be going going going like beginning of your career you're playing nose all this stuff like who's your richard seymour like who's the person that maybe a lot of people aren't thinking about but helped you get where you got like a lot of people think about bill or somebody might be thinking about a family member, but is there somebody that was really instrumental to you in the league that maybe people aren't thinking about? Yeah, well, I always watch film on a lot of guys. Like, I always like to watch Trevor Price, you know, because Trevor was a taller guy inside. He was long. He was still able to rush the passer, good at the run as well. So him also along
Starting point is 00:27:05 with Brian Young, you know, Brian was always tough, even though we had different body styles, but I always thought he played the game the right way. He was tough, physical. I'll probably say Trevor Price just because of our body, body style and body link in terms of somebody that I just admired their game and tried to model my game. Is there anybody in today's game? I mean, the schemes are different. There's very few people running it as true as, you know, what y'all did in the early 2000s. But, like, is there somebody in league today that, you know, they're not you, but they remind you of you?
Starting point is 00:27:38 Yeah, I like from Indy, who came from San Fran. Buckner. Buckner. Yeah, yeah. Buck's nice. Yeah. I like Buckner's game. There's a lot of guys that I really like.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I like Buckner's game. I mean, it's a lot of really good defensive linemen. I mean, obviously, we're different body type, but, but Aaron Donner is just an animal. Yeah. Just, yeah, he's just animal. Yeah, but I'll probably say at the top of my list, probably be bucked, just in terms of my style of play in game. And how did you keep leverage?
Starting point is 00:28:10 You know what I mean? Like some tall guys usually don't have great leverage. And like that's a prerequisite for you playing in that defense and bouncing up and down the line and doing everything from a nose to a four eye. Like you've got to have leverage. How did you do that? For me, it just, you know, my coaches in college was, you know, they'd always keep us under the shoots, you know, and I always preach pad leverage, yada, yada.
Starting point is 00:28:32 And then I always knew offensive linemen were a little bit stronger. So for me, it was all about making sure we're getting off the ball and creating a new line of scrimmage. So they can't use their natural strength against me. So it was always about getting off on the snap, you know, watching the quarterback, you know, looking at offensive linemen when their feet start to go down in the front and start to lean back. So we know the ball is about to snap, but we're just looking at the play clock. All of those little things is kind of what I tried to pattern. game play clock and end up fucking you sometimes because like sometimes you know what I mean like you'll be
Starting point is 00:29:11 like I can't be all sides it's zero and they'll call it on you right now it's on you like how how can I possibly be off sides right here yeah 100% yeah and then you go tell your de line coach why you got off and he tells you that's not a key that doesn't count you know we yeah no you know we had similar paths a lot too I mean I know uh yeah you were in the yeah the three four and then um Obviously, you know, you were in New England for a minute. We had the same, you know, Mike Woff full with. Woff, yeah. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:29:42 You had Watt. Bro, how could I forget? He talked about you more than anybody, dude. Woff. How tough was Woff in, in Oakland? And you know what? Even to this day, Woff, if Woff give you a call right now, you can plan to be on the call for about an hour.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's changed to a FaceTimeer now. Like, so he'll, FaceTime me about eight beers deep out in Discovery Bay at his place in San Francisco on the back porch. We'll be on for about 90 minutes. I'm glad you're getting the same. I'm getting the same treatment as you.
Starting point is 00:30:14 That's correct. That's undesirical. I'm getting the phone calls too. That's awesome. So when you got to New England before Oakland and everything, you were in New England for a long time. You were used to winning. You were used to great culture.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And you were talking about great veterans. And that was like the old NFL. Things are much different now. There's less vets in locker rooms. Like guys just don't seem to. know as much. You know, like the old vets we had, definitely that you had, are different than the guys today, I feel like. So who were the guys in New England and how intimidating was walking into that culture and answering to guys that had been there 10 years? Last year, I got into
Starting point is 00:30:49 the Patriots Hall of Fame. And when I went up to my ceremony, you know, I said, man, my first year there, I walked around carrying their pads and getting donuts and yada yada. But I took pleasure because they really taught me in the game. Like, I was the young kid. I was 20 years old. I was on the team with guys that were married, had kids. So all of this is really a culture shock for me in terms of being teammates. You know, they were at, like, in college,
Starting point is 00:31:15 that would be like somebody like, that was your coach. And so when I got there, it was such a blessing because I got to learn under their tutelage. And they did, like, everything they did was all about me. Yeah. You know, and it started at the top on the coach Belichick, but, you know, Willie McGinnis. Teddy Bruske, Mike Brable, Rodney Harrison, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:36 the list goes on and Troy Brown, like just in terms of guys that some people might have said they were a little bit over the hill. But I thought we had a pretty good blend of veteran leadership, but also super talented guys. Tal Law was a guy who was on the corner who kind of did his own thing,
Starting point is 00:31:54 but he was still a winner, and he wanted to win. And he kept it, you know, you have certain guys in the locker room, that keeps the mood light, you know, because when you're not having fun doing what you're doing, you know, you just don't do it as well. So we had a great mix of guys to balance everything off of. And, you know, obviously it was the complete opposite when I went out to Oakland. But one thing for me, when I went out there, they didn't really have the veteran leadership. But, you know, as a player, you coming in, they're looking at you because you've won, you went to
Starting point is 00:32:29 multiple pro bowls, yeah, you know. And so I was the guy now being able to give that knowledge and wisdom. And my heart has always been, I want guys to take advantage of the opportunities that they have because it's a great opportunity to play in this league and to make the type of money. And when you see guys not maximizing that or not really taking full advantage and can create, you know, generational wealth for their families, when it's gone, it's gone. So my heart has always been, hey, take care of this right now. Even if I had to be in your face a little bit, like that, that just was a part of the deal.
Starting point is 00:33:07 And my heart, too, I always wanted to win. Like winning was the most important thing. So if I had to play noseguard or if I had to be defensive end this week or I had to be three techniques, whatever it took, wherever the team needed me to play. Now, I guess the prerequisite to that is to say, for me, it was always about I'll do whatever it takes to win. and I understand that I'm sacrificing, but also on the contract side, as long as you're taking care of me accordingly,
Starting point is 00:33:37 yeah, what about no issues? So this is the most impressive thing I ever heard about Richard Seymour, was that Richard Seymour could walk into Bill's office and say, hey, Bill, a little light in the pockets right now. And you were the guy that he respected enough that would actually, he'd be like, okay, Richard, like, now obviously eventually he traded you and everything,
Starting point is 00:33:56 but like, and kind of won, and all that stuff and business is business. But like short of that, it seemed like y'all had a good rapport on the business side. No, no, we did. I think we, you know, at the end of the day, you know, he respected me and I respected him. And we both understood that, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:12 it's a certain way that we want to handle it. And, you know, I never really talked about, you know, contract stuff outside of, you know, our office. And, you know, I was serious about that, you know, because I think you have to be, you know. And I think they respect. you more if they know you're about your business. Yes. And I always try
Starting point is 00:34:31 to take, you know, and I'll say this, that comes from my dad and my uncles and the right rearing growing up. Yeah, you know what? It's so funny you mentioned that stuff about you know, like, you wanted to bring young guys along and like shoot them straight and support them because
Starting point is 00:34:47 I mean, I just think it's natural. Like, we had good vets. I tried to be the same way when I got to Philly or New England. You know, like New England was one thing because they knew how to win, but like when you get to Philly, Like it's a young team. They haven't won. Like, you need to be a leader.
Starting point is 00:35:00 And I always enjoyed younger players because I had those vets. I had Leonard Little. I had James Hall. I had Leroy Glover. I had, like, Fred Robbins. Like, those people meant the world to me and were really, they helped me. And it's like paying it forward. And I worry that the league is going to change now.
Starting point is 00:35:15 And I think it's already changing because of the new CBA. And there's less veterans around and that sort of thing. No, I think you make a great point. And that's about, you know, I think it's important to bridge that gap. having guys on a team that, you know, from all walks of life and, you know, it's a melting pot. And, you know, we all getting along. And I think, you know, obviously, you know, I'm a firm believer that sports, you know, really kind of transcend and bring everybody together.
Starting point is 00:35:42 So so who was the vet that you didn't want to piss off out of those names you gave me earlier? The guy that you're like this. Bucky Jones. It was to Buckley Jones. I'm guessing Vrable. No. Well, I'll say this. Like, I think for me, like, and he was my brother, Willie Mac, Willie McGuinness.
Starting point is 00:36:06 I say, I'll say, I'll say Willie. Like, Willie, Willie had a, he had a Long Beach, California vibe with him at all times. Yeah. He was totally cool, but I knew, like, if I got into it on the field with somebody, I knew who I wanted with me. Enough said, dude. I mean, yeah, like, he's such a cool guy. Whenever you meet him, like, he's so easy going, but you also know he's tough as a motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:36:32 So you're like, yeah, no, no, 100%. Yeah, so he'll be the guy that I want in the foxhole with me. No question. And that's probably why he doesn't have to act tough. 2001's your rookie year. This is when it all pops off. Like, this is when, I guess, the injury happens in September to Drew Blet. So I think Mo Lewis just sent him into outer space on the sideline.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Was that y'all's sideline or was that the other sideline? Yeah, no, I think that was our sideline. So what's really, what's really being said? Like, what did you really think of Drew Bletso? What did the team think of Drew Bletso, respected him, loved him, thought he was the guy, but then what? Yeah, no, well, here's the thing. Like, nobody knew at that time other than Tom that he was the guy.
Starting point is 00:37:14 So for us, we're like, wow, I started quarterback just went down. So I guess the guy come in, fill in, the backup will come and fill in, and we'll see how that goes. And, you know, Tom just really took it and ran. ran with it from there. And I just remember it was a little point where it was like, you heard little rumblings that Tom was going to continue to be the guy. Yeah. And so from there, it just went, hey, we got a job to do bills like, hey, everybody
Starting point is 00:37:45 do their job. And from there, you know, Tom just took it and just ran with it. Do you feel for Drew? Like whenever I watch a special on Drew, like it's sports. It's not fair. and like, damn, the best guy wins, right? And the best guy takes the field and everything. And Tom was the best guy.
Starting point is 00:38:03 But there is like this kind of fucked up deal with Drew because he was so good. He was in the wrong place of the wrong time in every sense of the word. Yeah, no, you feel for Drew. And, you know, but, you know, Drew left and went on to Buffalo. And, you know, and I think went on to Dallas a little bit after that. And, you know, but like I said, what do you?
Starting point is 00:38:25 He can only say, hey, one of the best players they ever played the game, you know. Yeah, if you're going to get your job taken, I mean, if you're going to get it taken, let it be by the go. So you get to, you get to Oakland late in your career
Starting point is 00:38:40 and like probably a totally different vibe. I remember when I visited there for the draft in 2008 and Lane Kiffin was there. And like, my meeting with him was like, yeah, like him, we'll take him. He walked by him in the hallway. I'm like, they don't fucking, they're just not focused here, are they? Like, they're not doing anything.
Starting point is 00:38:55 But what was the vibe? Because the facilities were different. I mean, I remember at now early 2000s, maybe New England not as nice. But when I was in New England, really nice, everything was great. And when I visited way back in 2008, they had like the office roofs, you know, the white rectangle, the drop ceilings. They had like cubicles. The weight room was small, the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Like what was your first thought when you got there? Well, I'll say this. So my first year in New England was that. old Foxborough Stadium. Yes. And I'm telling you, like, that may, the old Foxborough Stadium made the Raiders facility
Starting point is 00:39:33 looked like a five-star hotel. I'm telling you. So it was a reason that they were building Gillette Stadium. But then obviously, you know, the Raiders facility out, you know, in Oakland, it, it felt different.
Starting point is 00:39:48 It felt like it was an office building kind of interview. Like they repurposed it. Like they used to do that. copies there and now they they play football. What I will say, like, I think, you know, you wanted to win for Al Davis when I was in Oakland because you knew he cared and you knew he wanted to win and it was a family atmosphere.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And one thing that I always liked about it was they always had the veteran players come back. Like Willie Brown was always around. Akersen was always around like, you know, Romanowski would come. So you always. knew that the Raiders cared about the tradition and the rich history that they had. And they always had, you know, functions and kept guys in the mix. So, like, it made you want to play well. And as a defensive lineman, you know, playing in the black hole, like, I mean, I kind
Starting point is 00:40:45 of got off on that too. What crazy as shit you ever saw in the black hole? Like, you had to see something insane in there. Like, it definitely smelled loud, like in the, or, you know, early 2000s. It definitely was like a part. Yeah, no, well, put it like this. It's nothing to you know, mid-game, like every
Starting point is 00:41:03 game, timeouts, it doesn't matter to just look to the side and you got brawls breaking out in the stands. Like that was a regular in the parking light going home. I want to say they didn't even have the Raiders and San Fran
Starting point is 00:41:19 played like in the preseason games and whatnot at one point just because of the how much messed and the gang-related stuff that will go on in the stands. So, you know, it was vicious. We used to, when I used to go play the Niners and they were a rival, I had a, like, a plainclosed guy with my mom and my wife. And I said, like, y'all can't wear Rams gear.
Starting point is 00:41:42 You know, like, it's just the Bay Area. And then even L.A., like when I was a kid at the Coliseum, like, I wouldn't go to some games. You know, it's just like, it's a tough, it's a tough atmosphere out there. No, no, it's different. It's totally different. You know, like I said, as a defensive lineman, like I enjoy that type of, because, you know, that's how I tried to play my game. You know, I wanted to be physical, tough in your face. Like, you know, some people probably say agitate you all, you know.
Starting point is 00:42:10 So in terms of a player, like I kind of enjoy putting on the silver. Man, listen, my favorite, one of my favorite Richard Seymour plays was you decking Ben Rathlisberger. I'll never forget that. I don't know why that sticks in my head so much, bro. I was in college. I was sitting at home. I was like, Ben's a big guy, bro. I get asked about that all the time.
Starting point is 00:42:32 But I will say, you know, you know how things happen. You're in the heat of the moment. You know, it's just back and forth. You know, you know. We've all been. Yeah, it was impressive. You know how that is. I know how that is.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Richard, you were traded right before the 09 season. And three-time first team all-pro in New England, three Super Bowls, was it okay time for something different? Or was it, y'all are doing me dirty at September? Yeah. Yeah, it was actually, it was like preseason was over with it as well. Yeah. The season was that Sunday, the following Sunday.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Like pre-season is over, so you have that week before the season starts. and it's and I got the call right then that I hate so so I I hear you know Al Davis say we've traded for you and or so it's just however you want to look at it rather it's trade it for or trade it out either one it you know that makes it that makes it better though because you're like it's not like some like owner that you had no respect for wanted you and it softens the blow to think like I got to make this big change but it's Al Davis who came call and like and you're the perfect raider like he loved big athletic fast guys that could kick ass like it just made a lot of sense yeah no no idea but you know i i will say you know on the onset
Starting point is 00:44:01 the personal side i had to get over you know hey my wife's here my kids are about to go to school we're on the east coast and now hey you know in five days i got to be on the west coast which is a part of business and i totally understand to get that um but You got to deal with your personal side as well, and I need to make sure my family was straight before I headed out west and went out and was a pro about it. Let me ask you about two coaches in Oakland, and we can be quick on these,
Starting point is 00:44:32 but Tom Cable, did you ever see him fight somebody? Was he just always, was Tom Cable always ready to just throw down or something? He was an old line coach. Yeah, no, no, Tom was all like, and I enjoyed Tom, like, because Tom was the offensive line coach, but like when I came in, he was always very inquisitive about, you know, my experiences in New England. So he was always wanting to learn too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:01 And he also gave me leeway just in terms of practice and, hey, you put in your work and I'll make sure I take care of you too. So, you know, even there was days off and that sort of thing. So we always had a really great relationship and we had the same common goal. he wanted to win and I wanted to win. And, you know, so from that standpoint, I enjoyed his toughness, though. Like he was in your face as a coach. And he would challenge a lot of guys. And so, you know, for me, I respected that side of it too.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Yeah, he had a little D-Lyman in him. I mean, he had a little O-Lyman in him, but he had a little D-Line. He had a L-Line D-Line. And then Dennis Allen, who just got a head coaching job. He was there with you. Thoughts on Dennis Allen as a head coach. Do you think he has what it takes? Well, when I had him, he was a little bit younger.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Yeah. I think he was just coming off with a defensive coordinator in Denver at the time. And, but I think he's a very knowledgeable, understands defense. You know, I also think like it was just a little bit of a learning curve, but I think he's going to be a great head coach eventually. He wasn't what he is now. that. Yeah, he wasn't that right then. And I think that learning curve, I think he'll be a lot better in the spot now, just in terms of, you know, because it's one thing to call defenses,
Starting point is 00:46:27 but now we have to deal with the whole team and everybody at different personalities and what's going on here. Like, you have to manage a lot. Yeah. And so I think some of that side of it was a learning curve for him. And, you know, I think he'll probably admit that to. Probably luckily for him, you know, like it's a lot harder to walk into a new locker room full of guys and be the head coach. If you've not dealt with them in like New Orleans, he's been there a while. So luckily for him, like he's going to walk in and, you know, address Cam Jordan, address DeMario, address all those guys and they know who he is. So that helps.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Exactly, yeah, because he was the coordinator. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that familiarity with what's going on for sure. I had a couple of Pat's memories for you. We're just going to, we're going to say them. Most of them are Super Bowl and you tell us what you think about it, okay? A little free association. Free association.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Janet Jackson, when did you hear about Janet Jackson? That was the halftime show. Yeah, that was, yeah, after post-game, I heard about the debacle or the whatever they call it. Whatever you want to call it. The malfunction, the malfunction. The malfunction. Wardrobe malfunction. I was a Panthers fan.
Starting point is 00:47:35 I was a diehard Panthers fan growing up. I watched that game. Really? Oh, I was so bummed. Y'all beat them. But the halftime show was all right. So, all right. I'll say this about that game, though.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Yeah. Not to keep moving fast, but that's the most physical game that I've ever played in the Super Bowl against the Papyr. Really? The most physical game that I've ever played by far. Why? It came out later that those guys were on steroids, too. I'm just saying. I knew someone right.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Yeah, that'll help. I knew someone right. I'm waiting for that shoe to drop on a lot of guys that kicked my ass. So tell me the Panthers were physical. Like they were a physical team. No, they were a very physical team. They were downhill. They also had really good schemes.
Starting point is 00:48:22 I think the offensive blind coach, like he was a really good schemer in terms of knowing what our gap responsibilities for. But giving us a look and trying to take advantage of what we would be doing. So it was a real big chess mat. So we had so, but not only that, but just the physicality of the game. Like they wanted to come and try to impose their will on us,
Starting point is 00:48:48 and we wasn't having it. So it was just an all-out war in the trenches. Like, like I said, like the most physical game that I've played by far, just because of the tight ends and the run game and downhill. And even on that team, like it was me, Ted Washington, We had Ty Warren. I don't, yeah, I think Wilford, that was his rookie season, I want to say.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Yeah, but yeah, man, it was just, it was incredible to hear that. I know it was my favorite team growing up. I never thought of that offense as like incredibly physical, but I also didn't know ball like I know now. And I know you guys being a mirror front kind of, you can manipulate guys and put them in fucked up situations like, hey, we're going to counterstep here. And then we're going to go out here.
Starting point is 00:49:37 We're going to nudge you. Like, it's a whole other level. you guys have to do so much dirty work yeah yeah no Carolina super fan I'll give you a hundred bucks if you can tell me the Panthers leading running back in that Super Bowl that's tough I mean Fred Lane was still alive oh I know okay I'm gonna go to you though I'm gonna be Akbatuka no I'm fucking it up you don't get a hundred bucks but you can tell him Richard I get his Venmo I don't know if this is right but what's the uh I think it's a Forster or oh Deshawn Foster from UCLA.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Foster. Was it Deshawn Foster? In the Super Bowl, it was Stephen Davis. Stephen Davis, wow. Of Washington football team. I knew Stephen Davis was a starting running back, but I didn't know he had that many yards. It sounds like, yeah, dude. Well, nobody had that many yards. You all did well.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Deshawn Foster was six yards shy of Stephen Davis. Okay, that's why. Because I knew he had the long run. That's why I said that. That's a great question, man. I'm down memory lane here at tight ends, Wesley Walls. Remember that he would shoot a shotgun in the end zone? He would like, he would like shoot skeet in the end zone after touchdown.
Starting point is 00:50:42 You can't do that anymore. Probably can't do that. All right. So I'll give you one there. Rams game plan. Speaking of game plans, you guys are getting ready to play the greatest show on turf. It's your rookie year. Like, what do you really know you can stop these guys?
Starting point is 00:50:55 Well, it's one of the things that we played them midseason. And they just beat us. It was in the old Foxborough Stadium. Yeah. So we played them there. And I remember the veterans on the team saying, hey, if we get an opportunity to play these guys again, we're going to beat them. And they were like, hey, we're going to see these guys again.
Starting point is 00:51:11 They had just beat us, but it wasn't by much. But we knew we could play with them. And that was, you know, and that was all the confidence that we needed at that time. And then everything worked out. We meet them in the Super Bowl. And our game plan was to be, you know, they were the greatest show on turf. But we wanted to impose our will and be physical with these guys. Super talent.
Starting point is 00:51:33 I mean, you think of Marshall Falk and the receivers, et cetera. So our game. plan will say we're not going to let them do that right it's not going to be a running gun we're going to make this dirty yeah and so that that was the game plan going classic muddy it up like that's the birth of the bill bellichick muddy it up yes yeah muddy dirty and the opposite of the it sounds like the other super bowl where you're like damn these guys are physical and the rams not as i mean i'm not saying they weren't physical but they were they were throwing the ball around the yard so and what about What do you remember about Eli to Tyree?
Starting point is 00:52:07 Because these days, they might blow it dead with Eli in the grass. You guys had him back there. Yeah, me and Jarvis Green, we had on it. It's funny, I talked to the ref. I saw him somewhere and we talked about, I think it was at CBS. I was like, man, why didn't you blow their play dead? You always protected the quarterbacks and, you know, but, you know, it is what it is. You know, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:52:31 For the Giants that day, nothing could go wrong. Like every loose ball, whatever they had it, they got it, and, you know, that front just played outstanding in that day. Giants fan. Yeah. Okay. Well, you don't, you're not proud of it these days. The last one on Free Association here, Brady's ACL in 2008.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Talk to me about where you were, what guys were thinking, like, somebody fell into it? Week one? So who? Bernard Pollard? Was it Bernard Pollard? Yeah, but it was it was during the game. Yeah. And, but when he went down, no one knew it was an ACL.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Yeah. You know, it was like, oh, well, he went down on his knee and, you know, you know, Castle came in or whatever. But, like, we didn't find out until, like, after, like, you know what I mean? Yeah. So at that point, you're still going and playing. Like, it wasn't like, oh, wow, what are we going to do at that point, you know? Here's the interesting part.
Starting point is 00:53:27 And you guys went on to win 10 games that year, because that was my rookie year. we went up and played you guys and almost beat you shockingly. But like that birth kind of like all these quarterback rules, like not going low, all that stuff. Like I'm sure you were pissed and you're like, damn, we lost Tom Brady, but then you're going to be dealing with those fines for the next five years.
Starting point is 00:53:47 And now, you know, like I got a tally and we all have tallies probably because of that Tom Brady play, honestly. Right. No, no. You know, I mean, you, I guess from a high level, and I didn't understand it from a, you know, a defensive lineman perspective. I always felt like, man, hey, you're in the line of battle, you know, it's just, you know, it's just a casualty of war. But I guess from a higher level, they say, well, hey, these guys are, you know, franchise players and, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:17 means so much to the game and what we're trying to do and accomplish. So I can understand from both sides in terms of protecting, you know, quarterbacks. but I will say this. But in the flip side, even from an offensive alignment standpoint, like they shouldn't be allowed to go low or chop or do, you know. All that should be outlawed as well. And they were high low and probably when you got in the league. They've cracked down on that a lot more.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Like when I got in, like, so it was a learning curve to understand like, okay, well, we can't do that anymore. Now they're calling it different. Yeah. And we have to adjust if we want to, you know. So. The stories my dad told me were like crazy about that stuff. like just it was just wide open like hey i'm going to take this guy's knees out and you're going to
Starting point is 00:55:00 stay up like that's insane to me okay last thing poker man i didn't know you were such a really actually like very good poker player you went top 150 like my producers of poker player here top 150 he's not going to say how good he is how good is how good is richard seymour at poker i watched him play a good amount on uh poker go richard's your super good player i was just wondering like in the world series of poker which obviously takes place over multiple days. Like, how taxing is that mentally? And what do you like about poker and does it fill that competitive void? Yeah, no, well, I'll say this, man, poker's a really fun hobby. I enjoy it. You know, it's competitive and we don't have to beat each other up, you know, right? So it's a spirit,
Starting point is 00:55:45 it's an outlet that, you know, that I still get the scratch and that itch. And it demands so much if you really want to be really good at a high level to play tournament poker. Because bad things happen on the poker table and you need to be able to be mentally tough. And I've seen really good players that if something bad happened, like they can't, they let it get to them and they call it going on tilt. And so I always felt like I used the disciplines that I had as a player to be willing to grind it out against a lot of these players. And so I was just very fortunate just to be, you know, I was really taught the game by my dad growing up.
Starting point is 00:56:36 But then I just went to another level in terms of, you know, studying the game, you know, just taking it serious. But like I said, it's just a fun hobby that I truly enjoy it. Somebody told me a story about the money that was changing hands on train rides in New England that, like, you would just run through people. and somebody said you walked off the train and said, I got some new thigh pads. And there was, hey, so tell me,
Starting point is 00:57:02 what's the most money you've seen somebody went on a flight in a game, a Buree or, you know, like a poker game. Like, what's the most somebody's walked out of a facility that you see? Well, I'll say this, like, even like when I played against my teammates and stuff, like I didn't play for big money. I was like in terms of, just because they were my teammates. And that could be a bad deal. Yeah, owen somebody money.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Like, or even getting somebody owning you money. They're getting ready to go play a game and they're not focused. Like, so I didn't want to get into that side of it. And that's really why I don't play a lot of big cash games now. Yeah. Like, I'll play tournament poker, but it's a fixed limit. Like somebody, like the World Series of poker is a 10K. But in the biggest tournament that I played, I think it was a 25 game.
Starting point is 00:57:47 But like, I normally play a lot of different tournaments. Like I'll play with my buddies just at the house, but I'll play with them just for bragging rights. Hey, I'll beat your butt. You know what I mean? Like, so like. Yes, with a nice glass of something. I mean, like that sounds like I got to learn. Dude, I've never played poker.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Do you love it? You love it. No, we got to. Okay. You got to do it. Okay. And especially if you get a really good group of guys, like I got a good group of guys here in my neighborhood that, you know, that don't take their money that teach you like the right way.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Like, you know, you know, I'm just so afraid to be like the new guy at the table and everybody's like, look at this lick. I mean, like, we're just going to. Well, you know what? That's the fun part for a while because you learn it. And then you kind of get, oh, wow. And then once you learn a little bit more, then you just get to see like, oh, wow, this game is so beautiful. You know what I mean? Like it can be as deep or as shallow as you want it to be.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Like, it's really like how deep do you want to go in your mind? I mean, no different than football. Like when you hear Peyton Manning or Tom talk about quarterback play, they can analyze so much and what this guy's doing on this play versus that and how we want to manipulate it. Next time we want to set it up like this. So that's how I kind of look at how I play the game. Like I may, depending on what's going on at the table,
Starting point is 00:59:11 if all of the guys are really tight, then I may play a little looser. If they're really loose, then I'm going to tighten up. Or, you know, so I'm looking for. for so much when we had the table. And it's really coming out to discipline and fundamentals, just like everything else. So you wear shades? Do you wear shades when you play?
Starting point is 00:59:30 When I first started out, I did. But I was trying to look the part, right? I want to be like, okay, this is what I see guys doing. You know, I don't want to give off any details between my eyes. But no, I don't really wear shades. and here's the thing. So I played in a tournament. We were down into Bahamas,
Starting point is 00:59:53 and it was a 25K tournament. And I ended up coming in third in that tournament. But the night before, we were having some wine, throwing a few bags. Like, it wasn't like I was like a game, you know, in the bed by 11. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:12 Like, I was just enjoying this. So, like, anyway, I say all that segment, I thoroughly enjoy. And it's a fun. And you can play well hungover? No, you can. Okay. I'll play with wine at the table with me now, you know?
Starting point is 01:00:25 I have some wine with me and we'll be. Of my little. Chumming it up. I'll have my cone and, yeah, I'll have everything. All right, cool. I'm going to take you up on that one. When I see you next time, I'm going to play a hand of poker with you. No, no, we got to do it.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Show me the basics, man. And you got to learn the right way. I'm going to send you some stuff. You got to, you want to learn the game the right way. You're the man, dude. Is there anybody in the Hall of Fame you can't wait to stand up next to? This is the final question before we let the Hall of Fame or go. Is there anybody not a teammate that you're like,
Starting point is 01:00:52 I can't wait to stand next to that guy? Man, I would say for me, well, two defensive linemen that I feel in my mind are the best in terms of the game. That's Reggie White with, you know, God bless him and L.T. Yep. So L.T. There's your guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Yeah, yeah. And actually, we get an event. at Foxwood's casino for Draft Kings, maybe about two months ago. And we were together for that. But, like, I mean, he's, I mean, that's, he's the guy. He's the, he's the true OG. That's awesome. Richard Seymour, Pro Football Hall of Fame, Patriots Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 01:01:33 I think we've checked all the boxes, man. Congratulations. Got the Braves and the Bulldogs in one year one year. Green light pod ring of honor. Yeah, we're going to put you in the ring of honor here at the green. I appreciate that. The biggest honor, yeah. I appreciate it.
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Starting point is 01:03:44 Don't know where they grow it. Don't know much about it. But look it up on your little Leafly app if you want. I love this strain. I'm not saying it's move on over Dutch Hawaiian, but I smoked this the other night and I was stressed out and then all of a sudden I felt 17 again. This is strong weed.
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Starting point is 01:04:16 All right, good. So, reeds out. Weeds in, reads out. Yeah. And, uh,
Starting point is 01:04:22 it's Matt Kingston's turn. This is like, hey, hey, Tom Brady. Right. Hey, Wally Pip.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Hey, Mo Lewis. COVID is Mo Lewis. Hey, Bernard. And fucking, no, it's a,
Starting point is 01:04:32 Mo Lewis. Yeah, yeah, yeah, calling back. Yeah, yeah. So,
Starting point is 01:04:36 it was a good call back. Yeah, thanks. It's a great. Yeah. He's awesome. He's really cool. Is he great?
Starting point is 01:04:42 Yeah. Really cool. That nice in person. Some stars you meet, you're like, why are you this nice? You should be a dickhead like all the other ones. Yeah. No. Modest about his poker ability, too.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Like, third in a high roller tournament is no joke. He's playing against literally the top pros in the world. Him, Walter Jones, and Julius Peppers, the three nicest football players who I, like, really greatly admire that I met like at a, like, just down to earth. Yeah. Probably need one more for a Mount Rushmore, but I'd hate to say that because people will tell me cease and desist. Hey, for anybody that listen to this podcast, when we do a draft, believe it or not, they did drafts like... When the old man and the three was like a young man. When Jesus was a baby.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Yeah, Jesus was drafted. Okay. So... Jesus was like, I'll take myr, number one overall. Frankencence, though. Dropped. Like... Dropping.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Ponsch's pilot is like off the board. That's good stuff. Are you... They having the draft in Bethlehem? Yeah, well, they move it around. I think Nazareth is getting it next year. Rocus. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Supposedly Jesus was on that white 99. Anyways, we're going to let Tom Brady step in for Reed today. Yeah, I got to say I don't like that analogy because Reed is the goat here. Reed's a real Tom Brady. I mean, Reed, Reed, you are. Reed's listening in from his little bubble. Reed, we love you. Bubble boy.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Love you, Reed. you guys see any of the news out of the combine today Kenny Pickett as small hands is what I heard Yeah 8.5 which is as large as my hands So I'm kind of weird about it Like outside of like penis I think hands are probably the thing That guys are most sensitive about like if you have small
Starting point is 01:06:33 Like small hands like I think if you were like Hey man your hands are pretty small like next to hey man your dick is pretty small I think guys get worried about that stuff And so I think gripping the football, yes, it's a concern. But my concern is that Kenny Pickett has eight and a half inch hands in the confidence department. Joe Burrow tweeted about two years ago now, considering retirement after I was informed football will be slipping out of my tiny hands. He's one of one.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Please keep me in your thoughts. Joe Burroughs the exception, bro. But he's not. Mahomes is in that group too. You're right. Maybe it's like guys with small hands. although I saw a statistic today, like only nine guys that have been drafted
Starting point is 01:07:19 since whenever have had hands under starting quarterbacks in the NFL, like hands under nine inches or something. I just feel like maybe some of these guys have been dealing with small hands jokes their whole life, so it makes them like ultra confident. I think I have small hands and I don't care. So I've done a 180 and 90 seconds on what small hands means. for quarterbacks.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Joe Burrow hasn't lost a bunch of fumbles. Joe Burrow hasn't brought a bunch of picks. Danny Dimes probably has 17 inch hands. You talk about Patrick Mahomes in his hands or Joe Burrow in his hands. Okay, that's cool, but like then show me all the other quarterbacks with those, with small hands.
Starting point is 01:08:00 All the dudes who are fumbling, those fumbling quarterbacks, the ball probably gets lost in their giant mitts. You think? Give me a small hand. Too small. I know where the ball is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Or just the right size hand. Yeah. Let's measure your hand real quick. We did this recently. What was it? I think I was a nineer. I think. Call your hands a nineer.
Starting point is 01:08:22 We did this exactly one year ago. When Joe Burrow had. Cowboy Reid said we did this exactly one year ago when Joe Burrow had small ones. That's so good. And Joe Burrow turned out to be God. I think I had nineers, right, Reed? You had nine. You and Joe Burrough.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Joe Burrow went ahead of Jesus in the draft in, like in Nazareth. So Joe Burrow is Kenny Pickett's best friend right now. Did you guys see that picture of Evan Neal at the Combine today? Yeah, Sveld. Oh, he's down, huh? What's he down to? He's weighing in at 337. Macon has the picture on his phone.
Starting point is 01:08:57 He looks pretty freaking good. That's him at 337. Yeah. That's me after two nights at Millers. Two nights. I can show you a rounder belly right now. And 150 fewer pounds. Wow.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Oh, I get, I get in the mirror. Oh, yeah, yeah. Can you zoom in so I can see a little bit better? Yeah, guys, jacked. It's got to be tiresome to be that, like, muscular and heavy. Holy shit, I'd be smiling, too. If I was 3.40. Like, it's my brother.
Starting point is 01:09:28 It's Kyle. That's how Kyle's built. A lot of buzz going around about Malik Willis. There was a video of him actually. Future Hall of Famer, Malik Willis? Perhaps. There was a video of him giving food to a homeless person. on the street that was videotaped surreptitiously and is now
Starting point is 01:09:44 become viral. I don't know, so there's just a lot of talk about Malik Willis. Do you think that increases his stock? Future man of the year. No, I just, if he, okay, so I have to see the video. Like, if he knew people were around and he was like, it doesn't appear that he knew people were around. Then he's a good person.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Like, he's a good person. Malik Willis, not only going to be a Hall of Famer. Despite. Did he do something? The institution of higher learning. Well, listen, another thing about, you know, speedy quarterbacks that run a lot is like durability, right? So you do have to worry about that. But as long as he can fall well, he's going to be just fine.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Nice. Yeah. That was good. White 9. Wide 99. All right. One more combine topic. Do you guys see Jalani Woods put up 24 bench press reps leading all tight ends?
Starting point is 01:10:41 Shout out to Jalani Woods. Yeah, when his knees and ankles aren't hurting. Bro, he is. He really does look like Rob Rancowski out there. He looks like, well, let's not. Looks like. But yeah, he's built kind of like unorthodox for an NFL tight end nowadays. Like he's kind of got half of like an old NFL body, but half of a new NFL body.
Starting point is 01:11:08 It's really funky. And I don't know if it's just the zero, you know, that he was wearing. you get him out of that zero, he might look a lot more pro-ready. One thing he does do is catch the ball, which not all tight ends can do. He could be that Wahoo that people are like,
Starting point is 01:11:26 I never heard of him, and where did he come from? Yeah. You know, I think this could be the guy. I could do 24 reps at 100 pounds. 24 push-ups is something that I aspire to do. Yeah, sometimes. All right, so recently,
Starting point is 01:11:43 somebody put together a graph. Let me remind people that I'm a fucking coward, okay? Can I remind people that I'm a coward and a liar? And I became man of the year. I not only cheated on the vertical, you remember that, by putting tissue paper in my glove, got caught. So, legit, 30-something. But I also, we were talking about a bench.
Starting point is 01:12:12 bench. I opted out of the bench made up a thumb injury. Made it up? I mean, I hurt my thumb but like fuck everybody's got a thumb injury
Starting point is 01:12:20 dude. You know what I mean? At the combine today every single wide receiver except for one made up an excuse to get out of the bench. Oh,
Starting point is 01:12:29 I was ahead of my time I was basically a skill guy that was the mistake. Did you bench at a pro day? No, dude. You just might have been weak and nobody would have known. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Exactly, dude. The Rams didn't tell me they were going to sell the team seven years later and move to L.A. and win 10 games along the way. I was going to probably get a 12 or some shit. Look, guys. Hey, we're both with Hose 7 and he tries hard. Fuck, yeah, good handwork. He's not going to bench press.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Period. You lied. You were a liar. Lyer and a cheater. And eventually a man of the year. All right, I got a graph here of the most. disliked NFL players, coaches, owners, or associates. This is measured based on negative tweets in the last month of the most current season.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Okay. And it does not include retired players such as Brady or Rothless. The last month. I mean, in earlier we said this, you made sure to outline that it's not just, and we're guessing here. Shout out Dr. Fax for pulling this thing up, but you made sure we knew it wasn't just players or coaches. So Jackson Mahomes in there. Correct. Not saying I hate Jackson Mahomes.
Starting point is 01:13:43 I'm just saying I saw a lot of tweets. Sorry, what's the descriptor again? Is it hated? Based on negative tweets in the last month of the 2021. Carson Wentz is going to be up there. Aaron Rogers. Aaron Rogers is number one by a lot. Hate it but also loved.
Starting point is 01:13:59 By. Everybody with Spotify, evidently. What do you mean, dude? Everybody loves, like half the country hates him, half the country loves him. I just, I think he's a great football player and I think he's probably a better dude than he appeared to be this year. Roger Goodell?
Starting point is 01:14:17 He did not make. Oh, yeah, he did. Sorry, he's in eighth place. Oh. Okay. Carson Wentz is on there? He is not. Whoa, this is a valid, dude.
Starting point is 01:14:26 No, that was a weird call by you, I think. I hate Carson, dude. Yeah, but think about the last month of this year. And then Philly fans are. And I assume the year ended with the Super Bowl and you. Okay. Last month of the regular. And how many are on this list?
Starting point is 01:14:39 Antonio Brown? There's, correct, Antonio Brown is second. There's a total of 20. Probably won't be able to guess all of them. That's right. Try to guess a few more.
Starting point is 01:14:48 A couple coaches, couple owners. Stephen Ross. Oh, coaches. Oh, Joe Judge. Washington. Dan Snyder.
Starting point is 01:14:57 Yes, sir. Dan Snyder. Most hated owner. Any John Gruden still lingering? No, I think that news had passed at that time. I'll give you a hint, Chris. You played for one of them.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Oh, God, Bill. Yep, third place. Oh, that's mean. Makes, I'll give you a hint. One of your favorite players when he was with the Giants. Tiki? Oh, O'Dell. Odell, there we go.
Starting point is 01:15:29 Somebody who has some, like, legal uncertainty in their future. Yeah, Deshaunson. Yeah, and then. In their present. Jackson Mahomes, as you mentioned, Baker or Baker Baker Mayfield
Starting point is 01:15:43 Baker Mayfield Hey Baker Mayfield Yeah There's only one other guy in the top 10 That you guys didn't get That shocked me Well you know we We uh
Starting point is 01:15:52 No the one that you're missing is somebody super fast Tyreek Hill Tyree Hill Okay All right and then a couple One more quick football one If you were going to redo the Browns logo You know we did our worst logos
Starting point is 01:16:06 Draft the other day Got a lot of traction on traction on social media the Brown's logo was, I think, your number one pick, Chris. What would you guys redo the Brown's logo as? Thanks to everybody who said I won that draft. I appreciate you all and couldn't agree more. How about a brown helmet?
Starting point is 01:16:26 Yeah, not an orange helmet. Duly noted. Duly noted, I would, yeah, I would do that. This is potent, huh? Oh, no, I'm not high on drugs. No, that's just you. Getting a little towel-y vibe over there? No, your eyes are watering.
Starting point is 01:16:44 Mine? Yeah. A little bit. Really need an HR person. I was thinking the Brown's logo, you know how they like to wear those brown paper bags over their heads in the stands? So just a flaming bag of dog shit on the side of their helmet. Very representative of the franchise. I think.
Starting point is 01:17:06 I think it should be that jersey with all the names scratched out, starting. with like it's a Tim Couch jersey. Yeah. I think it should be the tape. Yeah, that's good. That's perfect. Okay. That's perfect.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Because they honest, that's good. Because honestly, at training camp a lot of times, if you don't have like a name yet, so to speak, they put it on your helmet on tape or something. I don't know if they do that in college of the pros.
Starting point is 01:17:29 I can't remember. I'm both now. But that's literally it. Seven of those motherfuckers, 17 of those motherfuckers. They're like buck eyes. Yep. On your helmet.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Yeah. Those pieces of tape with Tim Couch, etc. But now they have some stability. Give me Peyton Ellis, the Madden cover of Payton's your new logo. That was the peak.
Starting point is 01:17:48 That was, that is the peak Brown's moment. Honestly, and I mean this very, very complimentary. A guy was on the cover of Madden that if you pulled 100 people today, seven of them know who he is.
Starting point is 01:18:02 You think seven's under? Okay. And he was a Browns player and he was a white running back. Yeah. And you managed to catapult him onto the cover of Madden. Where the other players, Madden cover players on strike that year. What happened?
Starting point is 01:18:22 Is it brilliant marketing, as facts might say? I think it might be brilliant marketing, dude. Like, hey, Madden, we're going to honor somebody every year, but we're going to throw this one guy in. Yes. They're going to be talking about it 20 years from now. Payton Hill. Boom, white running back.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Boom. White running back's going to be out of league in three years. What? That's a fucking, no, that's the Browns, that's the Browns logo. Yeah, Peyton's kind of a sexy name, by the way. Transitioning into our topic of what is the sexiest name. That, did Tom Brady throw a pick his first year? After Drew Bledso went down, because that might have been the one pick.
Starting point is 01:19:04 But keep it. That's good. That's funny as fuck. All right, good transition. See how he did that? Yeah, no. Reed, do you hear that? at home seamless how about that transition damn sexiest names huh or he actually asked what are the sexiest
Starting point is 01:19:20 and least sexy names you know what me Megan does it for me like when i hear Megan what about like Macon nah okay making is not a sexy name but high probability there's a porn star with the name making what yeah making sex making you know Making you come. That type of stuff, right? It's brilliant. If there isn't, there should be. Yeah, so you got that going for you.
Starting point is 01:19:51 But I don't think it's a sexy name. No, and Chris, too down the middle. Nobody thinks Chris is a sexy name. I would say Amber. Oh, that's interesting. Amber. Yeah. The color.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Yeah. I like that color. You're afraid to say what names are sexy to you. I'm not. afraid to analyze Amber. I think you're probably right. You're afraid to say, Kate's not listening. Kate, I really like.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Okay, but after Kate. Here you go, popular names for births. Years 1921 to 2020. Not gonna be real hot. You want male or female dog? Go with female dog. Mary. No.
Starting point is 01:20:34 Patricia. No. Jennifer. Sometimes. Linda. No. Elizabeth. Not really.
Starting point is 01:20:40 Barbara. Beautiful name. Barbara, definitely not. Jessica. Did we say Jessica already? No. It's like Jennifer, it can sometimes. Sarah.
Starting point is 01:20:51 It's cute, she's cute, maybe. Karen. Telling on black people for something. Nancy. Nancy's awesome. She runs my foundation. Lisa. Lisa.
Starting point is 01:21:05 She could be. Lisa Turtle. She'd be kind of hot. Lisa, what's that? Save by the bell. I didn't see that. Jeez. Betty.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Uh-uh. Sneaky one. You think? Sneaky. Yeah, because you like, it's 1940. Margaret. Or whatever the fuck that cartoon lady's name was.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Margaret. Margaret? No. You don't need to repeat all of them. I'm speaking very clearly. Okay, keep going. Sandra. We take more time when you tell me not to repeat it,
Starting point is 01:21:36 honestly, for the sake of Sandra? Sandra. That's right. Cassandra. Sure. Put the C back on. Yeah. Ashley. Yeah. Yeah. Kimberly. Yeah. Emily. Nah. Donna. No. Michelle. Yeah. Dorothy. Nah. Carol. Amanda. Light of my life. Melissa.
Starting point is 01:22:10 Melissa. No. I'll round out the top 25 with. Rebecca Definitely Absolutely Wow Really high marks for Ashley and Rebecca It sounded like from you guys Is that right?
Starting point is 01:22:26 Ashley's I mean I prefer Rebecca to go by Becca but yeah sure Okay Geez Eva's a pretty good one too Fricking Who the hell was Whitney Houston married to
Starting point is 01:22:37 Bobby Brown Fucking Bobby Brown over here Telling Rebecca what to go by Got another question from Reed This one is interesting Would you give up the last five years of your life to be a dog for a month? This is an interesting question, Reed. I don't have my ears in, so I can't hear Reed.
Starting point is 01:22:54 I'm no longer, no headphones here as God-intended podcasting. Reed, I know I can't hear you, but is it COVID fog? Like, this isn't even close. Is it that Acapulco gold that you picked up out in Colorado? I don't know they grow that in California. or Mexico, supposedly. So I'm going to say no to this one. Reed,
Starting point is 01:23:22 fuck yeah. I'm so glad you asked this question. I've been waiting for somebody to ask me this question for 37 years, nearly. Reed added, you don't know when you'll die, so you could be giving up five years in your 80s or five years in your 40s.
Starting point is 01:23:38 Man. For one month as a dog. I have seen my dog. Not to mention the fact that the dog does not have agents. like the dog has to ask to come inside. I was thinking about this morning. No opposable thumbs.
Starting point is 01:23:52 The dog has to ask to leave. The dog gets one meal every day. It's hard being a pescatarian, dude. Imagine eating. No, but like one food, one type of food. Oh, got you. One type of food a day. When I throw that food up, I eat my own vomit.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Like, what? What? Who wants to be a dog? Give me a... Yeah, but you get me a... stress. I don't know, like a California Condor if they're still around or a fucking Peregrine Falcon or a snow leopard.
Starting point is 01:24:23 Read added that you have no stress as a dog. If you want to, if you're asking me if I would rather be a human being or a dog, now we're having a conversation. I think it really depends, though, on the situation. Now, if I'm like a golden retriever in an upper middle class family, then yeah, I'll be a dog. If I'm a street dog in like the Dominican Republic, no, I'm going to keep the five years of my life. Bro, I'd rather be a street dog in the Dominican Republic.
Starting point is 01:24:49 No, no way. And a fucking golden retriever. You say that. You just say that. Absolutely. You're a dog, dude. What is, what does it matter? You're not cold.
Starting point is 01:24:58 You live in the DR. You basically live on the beach. You can eat whatever the fuck you want. I want to snag a chicken. No problem. A burger that somebody left. Predators. No problem.
Starting point is 01:25:07 Predators, there's a fucking flip side to everything, dude. I'm not eating my own vomit. I'm not eating my own vomited up blue buffalo that I, that I've had the last 28 days. I'm in the DR, dude. Yeah, they're not going to be very kind to you though. Taylor, you're right.
Starting point is 01:25:23 Your take is right. Bro, my take is right. And the right take is that being a human being, as shitty as things are, in this century, is the easiest fucking thing in the history of people and animals and life forms that could breathe
Starting point is 01:25:40 and have an existence. We have the easiest life in the world. It's the biggest life in the world. misconception that dogs have it easy. Dogs have it fucking hard, dude. Yeah, they're totally dependent on us for everything. Yes, I like
Starting point is 01:25:54 fucking dictating the action, man. We're human beings. I don't want to bark to go outside, dude. You stick me in the DR, though. Punta Kana. Punta Kana mutt. You just unlocked this question for me.
Starting point is 01:26:11 I get to carve off five years of this miserable existence. Oh, there you go. Checkpoint. And I can be a dog. Yes. It's a hell of a question. It's super easy to be a human, Reed.
Starting point is 01:26:21 It's not. Read, what does Reed say? Tell me what he said. Reed, what's your answer? Well, you get to, your, your consciousness goes with you as a dog, so you don't have to ask to come back inside. You can stay outside for as long as you want.
Starting point is 01:26:34 You don't have to eat your own vomit. You'll know that it's your own vomit. You won't eat it. You retain your consciousness. So you can stay outside when you're a dog as long as you want. You don't have to eat your vomit. If you don't want to eat your vomit, you're you as a dog. So I'm me as a dog and you're telling me I'm not stressed as a dog. So this is the problem. No, no, no, no, read. I have my ears. No, you wouldn't have to drive.
Starting point is 01:26:56 You wouldn't have to worry about buying any food. Food would already be bought for you. You wouldn't have to be worried about going anywhere. You wouldn't be texting five out to everybody when you're 10 out. Hey, dude, I've slowed down on that. I'm actually receptive to coaching. So I'm like, was that, was that a shot at me? Not at all. There was not a shot. There's a ton of things that you're not receptive at outside the terms of our... So if you're a dog but you have your brain, couldn't you just like spell stuff with sticks and explain to people you're secretly a human?
Starting point is 01:27:25 Now, if I was a dog with my brain, I would be on the news in no time. Yeah. No time. I'd have you fuckers wrapped around my finger. Like wrapped around my finger. I would be dictating world policy. Like... You guys are overthinking this.
Starting point is 01:27:38 You're just... That's right. No. You're... No, read. You just enjoy yourself as a dog for a month. It's a vacation. Can't believe I've been talking to this.
Starting point is 01:27:46 I don't think I could do it with my own consciousness. Like knowing. Right, exactly. No one in my dog. I would have to do it in like a completely separate consciousness and not aware of it. Being a dog is like smoking a fucking small automobile-sized pile of white 99. Because if you don't care that you're eating your own vomit, that you're barking to go outside, that you have to ask before you come back inside, that people kick you off. the couch that cars hit you
Starting point is 01:28:16 when you see other dogs they fight you bro you're not ready to be a dog you're not ready to be a dog being a dog is hard bro can't even take your coat off if I could be Zoe if I can't be hot nothing I can't change anything I'm hot I have an itch I can't fucking
Starting point is 01:28:31 scratch it Zoe's always happy if I could be Zoe I'd be Zoe I wouldn't you're right I wouldn't want to carry this brain into my month as a dog so you would rather be a dog for you would take the dog side of this thing. Yeah. Can I can I lap off 20 years? I mean what holy shit do I'm sure are you willing to sweeten the pot. So I got this dog collar for my dog because he likes to run
Starting point is 01:28:54 away sometimes and it has like a don't get me started on the walks dude it has it has a GPS on the collar so I can find him right it on the walks it also like I guess tracks like his movement and stuff yeah this dude sleeps 19 hours a day on average yeah sounds awesome yeah well I agree doing it out of avoidance because the rest is just terrible, dude. Being a dog is awful. Holy shit. I don't know that you should be owning dogs. I love dogs. We're getting two more. You're doing what? I haven't told you this. We're getting two more. You're getting two more dogs. Yeah, I'm getting as many dogs as possible in trying to improve their lives, dude, because their lives are so hard. You're rescues? No. So you're telling me that because I'm buying the dog, his life is less precious than a rescue dog? I just heard
Starting point is 01:29:39 improving their lives. Like I thought it was a part of, I thought was like part of Edzone or water boys. They're living with a fucking dog breeder. No one wants to live with a dog breeder. No one wants to live with a dog breeder? That's training camp for the regular season. Our dog breeder had a bunch of Trump flags. I'm just saying, bro, I'm getting more dogs.
Starting point is 01:30:02 I want to save them all. I might go get five more now, dude. This is unbelievable. I got a little animal problem of my own. I was hoping you guys could help me with, unless Macon's got more dog commentator. How long can we talk about how bad dogs' lives are? I'll keep going.
Starting point is 01:30:17 I'll be like Bill Burr in Philadelphia. Talking about Harold Carmichael. Like my dog has a really good life. I'm worried that your dogs aren't having really good lives because you say dogs have such bad lives. Here's a little tiny treat that if you ate as a human, you probably wouldn't even like it, and then get in this cage that we call a crate.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Oh, no, Zoe's not in him. Yeah, my dog just kind of free roams around. Yeah, we kind of raise Zoe right. Doesn't really bark. Hey, where are we going? I'm going to cut your testicles off at the doctor. Zoe had no nuts. You tell her to sit and she sits?
Starting point is 01:30:47 That's right. You like following orders? Oh, very much so. Yes. I like, he might be a dog. He's a dog. But not the kind of dog that I'm used to associate. Like, I'm a DR dog.
Starting point is 01:31:02 I'm not saying I'm tough. I just would want freedom. I want freedom. You are a DR dog. Agreed. I want freedom, dude. I'm not an inside dog. Worms
Starting point is 01:31:12 Red Rocket You get a boner You can't hide it You're just fucking Look at this thing, dude Look at this thing Oh fuck What are you excited about
Starting point is 01:31:21 There's a bird outside I had a thought Fuck dude It's not that great I'd rather be a killer whale Dude Brain three times size of a human There are only two options
Starting point is 01:31:34 By the way Who would win Spoiler alert Killer whale Would beat the shark Great White Shark Huh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:41 What about whale sperm whale? Whale, sperm whale. Sperm whale. Sperm whales are ferocious, dude. Okay. And it's redundant. It's a redundant. They wouldn't print that book.
Starting point is 01:31:53 But go ahead. Wasn't that, I thought that was coming up. On Reed Reads. I don't know. Keep going. Stay tuned. I cannot believe.
Starting point is 01:32:02 Dog or like, sounds like hell. Go ahead. Speaking of hell. So, uh, Moved into my new apartment. Very excited.
Starting point is 01:32:11 Everything's going great. The next morning. Congratulations. The next morning. First night there I wake up, 605, there is a fucking rooster crowing right across the corner. Stop it, dude. There has to be a fucking Zillow.
Starting point is 01:32:28 Oh my God. This threatens like the quality of work we get out of him. What do I do? I care on a human level for sure. Oh my God. Holy shit, dude. Like now, oh, wow. What do you do?
Starting point is 01:32:41 I mean, I think I got a few options. Well, you can. I know one option you got. Yeah. Right. You. I was thinking of like lobbying city hall to change their rooster laws. No question.
Starting point is 01:32:52 I'm going to have to advise against that as a real estate professional. You can't be. Don't leave the people alone. Let them do what they want. I would kill the rooster. I would shoot the rooster. Big states rights guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:06 You? Yep. you would shoot the rooster well not me personally i would probably ask my dad or somebody else maybe when the sound machine that's supposed to be on the staircase comes you could use a sound machine how about a sound machine that's a good idea no but honestly that matt that's really fucked up if i were you
Starting point is 01:33:24 um is it every morning it's every morning yeah today was the second day i was already a little bit more used to it oh i got it got it water damage insurance mold you found mold sue them. Let's sue these. Fraud. Let's do some fraud. Yes, fraud. I was thinking maybe it was like an omen. I just need to start waking up at the crack of dawn every day.
Starting point is 01:33:45 Well, I tell you what. It's not bad. It's not so bad. I've been going to bed since the football season then. I don't have to do. We don't have to do those Sunday nights. I've been going to bed by like 1130. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:56 It's incredible. Yeah. And what time are you up? 7.30. This morning I was 7.05 because I can't sleep any longer. I'm like, like, Meg will let me sleep in. and the kids go to school, like on a morning where I want to sleep. And now I wake up and hear them leave.
Starting point is 01:34:14 And I'm like, what the fuck was the point of that? I didn't see the kids and didn't sleep in. I've got a baby who gets up at 6.55. Yeah. Routinely. Those are the consequences of sex. So anyways. And I feel like getting up in the sixes,
Starting point is 01:34:31 yeah. You start your day with a little grit. It's as man intended. Because people, you know, caveman, they just woke up when the sun came. All right. Imagine that you can only go to live sporting events in one sport for the rest of your life. Would you choose NFL, college football, NBA, college basketball, hockey, or pro baseball? Dogs don't even know sports exist.
Starting point is 01:34:57 Tell that to the Frisbee catching dogs. No idea. It's a product of where I live, but well, maybe it's not. It's college basketball and it's college. basketball by a mile for me. NHL, hockey, really cool sport to watch live. NFL is worse. You know who needs to renegotiate
Starting point is 01:35:14 their CBA? Frisbee dogs. Mm-hmm. Lockout, strike. Go ahead. They don't see a single cent, dude. They're on ESPN now. I feel like maybe if we lived in
Starting point is 01:35:26 Baton Rouge. Those dogs don't get paid at all. They've got the worst union, dude. College football's a good scene. The worst unions, dude. A big college football game's hard to beat. But I'm going college hoops. You get March Madness. You get the tournament, you got the freaking
Starting point is 01:35:39 sunbelt. Nobody voted on the CBA. Louisiana Lopjeet weeing down its leg in the last minute 40 to blow a cover. You can't replicate that. College hoops is my answer. Representation in film. Airbud. That's it.
Starting point is 01:35:56 Okay. College football second. Okay. Here, I'm going to break it down for you. NBA. Fuck. Fuck off. Best sports to watch in person. Okay, and this is bad for football, but, like, courtside NBA, courtside college basketball, anything low?
Starting point is 01:36:14 Your feet have to be on the floor, huh? Yeah, feet on the floor. Fuck yeah, I'm just telling you, like, for me to really enjoy seeing a basketball game. Although, because I think a basketball game is so much different than football, yeah, sure, maybe I'm desensitized to how big guys are, but there's not good seats in football. So, like, you've got to be way behind the clubs and all that stuff. All right, I'm inside basketball.
Starting point is 01:36:34 Right. So you don't really appreciate how fucking big the guys are. Like when you're standing on the sideline and this happened to me late in my career when I was hurt for the first time and I'm just watching in street clothes not able to defend myself. Guys scared me, right?
Starting point is 01:36:48 Like I'm like, damn, that would hurt. You get that same, you get the basketball version of that with how fucking tall these guys are. Like it is a whole other level. And physical. Like you're like, oh man, that skinny center really bangs down there. I would not want to box him out. out. So I love going to basketball. I'll probably keep basketball. I'll probably keep the NBA.
Starting point is 01:37:12 Wow. If I had it now do I have a ticket to any game? Sure. Sure. Oh, fuck yeah. I'm I'm NBA. Yeah. Going to the. Yeah. And people here, now people here are going to say like, I know we have some white listeners. And they're going to all say, what about hockey, right? And you're right. Hockey's too for me. football is last baseball might be tied with football for me now baseball it's a kid thing but in seven years my kid gets bored with baseball I can't go there anymore so yeah
Starting point is 01:37:44 give me give me basketball followed by hockey yeah I'd take NCAA hoops followed by major league baseball yeah I think I'd go hockey and then college hoops like just because hockey dude when you're sitting on the glass like that's a great experience oh yeah I love the glass you're sitting on the glass and then like someone gets slammed up against the wall.
Starting point is 01:38:03 Like that's pretty. Love the glass. Call the troops. I've never sat on the glass, you elitist. Love the glass. Glass is cool. Even the sweets are really awesome in hockey. And all the seats in between.
Starting point is 01:38:14 All right. Last thing. Make your plea to the people to get your Twitter verified. Yeah, true, true. We got to do that. Get rid of UGA. I don't mean get rid of him, but it's too hot for that dog on that field.
Starting point is 01:38:25 No, that's what makes it. It's so hot. I can't take off a layer? He's lying down on a ice bag. Bro, I'm going to be the most empathetic podcaster in the world towards dogs. This is an animal rights pod now. Oh, bro. This is rename this pod Pita.
Starting point is 01:38:45 I'm going to start just attacking people for no reason. Pita, hard cut. When I went through the process of being rejected for verification, I think I had to click like entertainment and then podcasts with some sort of subgenre. and it wanted three articles written about me of which I had none at the time and so I linked like an Adam Schaefter retweet or something
Starting point is 01:39:15 like it wasn't a good scene and then it wanted like my name on a website which we now have and my Twitter handle on a website which we now have go to greenlight something.com podcast greenlightpodcast.com and we got an article We got an article out of Clear Blue Sky.
Starting point is 01:39:33 So now we need two more articles. They want three articles written about me to get verified. Now, I'm not a big... Clear Blue Sky. Wait. Remember you were like, hey, can you hook me out with that writer to do this profile on me? You remember that? No.
Starting point is 01:39:47 That did not happen. And I don't know. What comes with verification? Do I really... I kind of... Maybe I want to be in the shadows, you know? No, being verified. It's cool.
Starting point is 01:39:55 It is? Sure. Tell me about it. Couldn't lately. But I am like on the app time time. and it is nice being verified. I don't know. Maybe it's not.
Starting point is 01:40:05 Will you write an article? Who gives a fuck? Honestly. But who gives a fuck? But also this would be good content. That's all I care about. Dude, the only reason I'm on Twitter is because I have a podcast. Is my getting verified better content than my being rejected again?
Starting point is 01:40:19 Because my being rejected is funny. But it's a pretty short payoff. This whole thing is just continue to strive. Okay? So what we need to do. Write an article. Get two articles written. Right.
Starting point is 01:40:31 two articles. Two. And preferably it's not like Chris long. Dot blogspot.com. It needs to be like. Writers. Yeah. Who is a really famous writer?
Starting point is 01:40:40 People also ask. William Shakespeare. Being alive would help because it needs to be in the public domain. I know they're dead. I know they're dead. Yeah. Jeff Pearlman. Jeff Pearlman is where I'm trying to get us.
Starting point is 01:40:51 Jeff Pearlman would work out. Jeff Perlman was just on the pod. Writes books. If he could just write an article. Yeah. He will knock on your door. Is Rick Riley still? writing articles.
Starting point is 01:41:03 All right. I think he's retired. I'm going to make a plea to Rick Riley. Hey, Rick Riley. Hey, it's flattering that so many of you wondered if I was really retiring, but I'm wondering why you stopped listening to the podcast five minutes in, dude. 30 seconds later. I wonder why y'all like just, I know people do things while they're podcasting, but what
Starting point is 01:41:24 are you doing while we're podcasting because he didn't come close to retired. It was nice to hear from so many people, but you did. a fake funeral thing. I thought we made it clear within a minute. You did a fake funeral thing and it worked. Yeah. What an ovation that was. Yep. Okay. So, no, that speaks to how few people actually fucked that up. He's not retiring. Not retiring. And if you write for like a small town newspaper, but what we do need is a DMs are open. We need an article, preferably two, written about my co-host making gunner here. He's a tremendous co-host. Oh. He's a celebrity for the most talented people in the business.
Starting point is 01:42:04 He needs a blue check for whatever the fuck that's worth. And Rick Riley, of all people, knows what it's about making content. It's hard sometimes. And we're trying to make some content here, Rick. You're one of the content kings, dude. I used to my legs used to go numb sitting on the toilet reading Rick Riley. Yeah. Just go straight to the back.
Starting point is 01:42:23 I'm reading Rick Riley. Can't feel my legs. Rick, what if I told you one day, 1996? My friend started a podcast. and then I did it too. Right, exactly. So what happened here was my friend, great real estate agent.
Starting point is 01:42:39 Oh, yeah, thanks. Found time in his schedule, which is hard because he's a fucking... I'm complimenting you. Try to talk to Rick Riley. Not a violation. Okay. I pulled out.
Starting point is 01:42:54 I did not inhale. All right, but Rick Riley, back to you, man. You're one of our fans. favorites. Imagine that you started a podcast and one of your best friends in the world, decided that he wanted to come in and sit in and laugh at some of your jokes, and then eventually became the co-host, the one that brings the heat every day. He's not verified on Twitter, so we need your help. Just one article on Macon. You heard some interesting facts about him. I know, Rick, you're hearing that I got off one, maybe two questions with Richard
Starting point is 01:43:27 Seymour. That was three hours of prep, all right? That led to that one to two questions. Okay. I know it seems easy. That's a warning too. Oh, no, that's funny. Oh, no, it wasn't. That was just funny.
Starting point is 01:43:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no. I'm quite unremarkable. I don't know if I deserve verification. That's why you need to write an article about him because then he could say Rick Riley wrote an article about me. Dear Rick, yeah, write an article. And then the rest of you guys tell us who should write an article about making.
Starting point is 01:43:55 I don't want to be unauthorized. Yeah, I'd like to get a comment in there. And read one more thing. I'm just making and I were just talking offline and um if you die from coronavirus we will rename not the studio studio j will remain but we'll call it studio j at dickerson hall which like you're a big time donor you know what I mean like you made this happen yeah like the hall on the first floor like where it really smells bad no because this isn't really a hall it's it's not really a studio either.
Starting point is 01:44:34 You know? Well, yeah, you've kind of transformed it into a studio. There's a lot of equipment here. Yeah. Maybe it's Dickerson Center. So basically, we do podcasts like, hey, we're coming at you from Studio J at the Dicker. Yeah, I get it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:44:52 I more took issue with Hall. Let the people decide. Do you get it? Do you at home get it? Or do you want 30 more seconds of us litigating? IG and say what should go. Wish him well in Tara reads IG. Hannah.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Is the name Hannah? Yeah, that can be good. Jacqueline. Yeah. Gloria. No. Catherine. No.
Starting point is 01:45:15 Janice. No. Joplin has that locked down. Julia. No, no. Yeah, Julia. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Until the Kanye thing.
Starting point is 01:45:23 Grace. Yeah, sure. Danielle. No. Amber. Yeah. Diana. No.
Starting point is 01:45:32 Brittany. Yeah, Brittany. Hell yeah. Charlotte. Sure, but cuter. Rose. Rose? No, too, just Rose is Mary. You marry a Rose.
Starting point is 01:45:45 Okay, that'll do it. And y'all take care.

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