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Episode Date: January 29, 2021

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I love it when they do it in parentheses. It's a pizza in parentheses, St. Louis style. It's a fucking slice of pizza in a boiling pot of water. Amazing. Happy Friday, everybody. This is Greenlight Pod. I'm your host, Chris Long. Pack show coming up.

I got Rob Nankovic coming on. Longtime Patriots, great Patriots, you know, Super Bowl champion multiple times over. A lot of postseason experience. A great teammate. Somebody I enjoy having on. the show. So it's basically like an hour of two dudes with ADD talking about whatever comes to mind with the Super Bowl. The matchups, Brady, rooting interests, you know, who's probably sitting on the sideline, hating on one team or the other, one player or the other, who's probably hoping

one team wins for some reason or another. I mean, take, for instance, the bills. Who are they rooting for? Talk about that. And Bill Belichick, who's he rooting for? That's something people have been obsessed with this week. So we'll talk about. all that stuff and more and some stories from our Super Bowl season. Conversation just goes everywhere. So as it does with Ninko. After that, mailbag, I am going to talk about stocks. I'm not going to talk about it effectively.

I'm not going to talk about it with any expertise. But you guys seem to like talking about stocks. I posted the mailback thing and 15 to 20 questions where let's hear your take on hedge funds. I'm like, okay, you might have come to the wrong. podcast, but I'll give it a fucking shot. So we'll do that. We also talk about some interesting questions. Would you rather be attacked relentlessly by birds the rest of your life

or every dog runs up and tries to get after you? We talk about boy bands. I don't know how they have two people asked me about boy bands yesterday. So we're going to talk about, we're going to test my in sync and 98 degrees knowledge a little bit. Hansen comes up in the pot. So we got a little bit of everything, man. Yeah, but first off, listen, this is something that, you know, we did the pod, full disclosure.

It was, we did a lot of this pod yesterday with Ninko. This is, this is me Friday morning. We had a lot of work to do and we had a lot of fun in this pod. It didn't feel for me, I tried to switch right back and talk about Chad Wheeler. I just, you know, it just kind of pissed me off. So this is me Friday morning trying to get the pot out of the door. And I wanted to get this thing out of the way. And this isn't me hoping you share my quotes.

I sure hope my quotes don't get shared, you know, on some clickbait article because I'm not trying to grandstand or anything. I think everybody agrees that what he saw, what he did was disgusting. It is disgusting. And I hate even calling it like the Chad Wheeler situation because it's not a situation. You know, he basically, you know, could have killed this girl. attacked a victim, choked her, fractured her arm, dislocated her elbow. You know, the woman who's the victim of this assault said he's bipolar and hasn't been

on his medicine. She's his former girlfriend. I understand all that. I'm aware of the context with mental health. I'm aware of, you know, a lot of the guys that do this have seen terrible things in their households, I'm aware that a lot of guys are dealing with trauma and hurt people, hurt people, right? But on a week like this, I don't give a shit. I really don't. On a week like this, it's, you know, and I'm not one of these people that gets pissed off when they find

the one sentence in an article that's like, yeah, but he was, he had bipolar disorder. Like, I'm not going to make that the lead. It's part of the article. It's part of the context of the situation. It's not, to me, it's not an excuse. If you're supposed to be on your medicine, be on your medication, which is, which is, which, which is what his girlfriend said. And I just feel every time this stuff happens, I get a pit in my stomach for a couple reasons. Number one, I just, as a big man, if you ever stop and think about how much women trust you

to be alone with you. Like if you're a man and you're a powerful man, you know, the trust that goes into walking through your apartment door and being alone with a with a six foot seven, 330 pound guy. Or a regular size, dude. Like it's just there's an inherent trust that females have to put in men that they're not going to bully them, that they're not going to be physical with them. I mean, I read something that said a third of women in this country have experienced some kind of physical violence from a partner.

This is an epidemic in our country. It always has been. And it's an epidemic probably around the world, man. Like, you know, men have to do better. They have to do better. So it makes me sick every time this happens because I know that for all the people that watch Chad Wheeler play and it wasn't pretty. And that's why he probably won't be back in the league.

I made a tweet alluding to that yesterday. And a lot of people I didn't lay it on thick enough for them. Well, there's only a few people who didn't get the, who didn't get the disdain for the NFL's processes with which they reinstate players or, you know, ban them for life. Chad Wheeler won't be back because he's not a good player. But the people that saw him play and filled stadiums and watched him play, and I played against him, there's many people sitting in those stands that are doing the same thing.

And there's a lot of women sitting in the stands that live with men just like, Chad Wheeler and it's disgusting. It really puts a pit in my stomach and we all have to do better, even especially the men who are not engaging in activities like this. When I, since I was a little kid, you know, my dad, an awesome dude and a wonderful father and taught me a lot. And if I can remember buzzwords from my childhood, you know, or phrases, I remember a few that have kind of guided me along my.

my journey, but one that's very basic. And it never seemed like when I had to think about a lot was you never put your hands on a woman. You never put your hands on a woman. And so I know that dudes come from fucked up households where they didn't get that instruction. They saw quite the opposite. I know that some people have mental health issues. But on a week like this, that's not the fucking lead. The lead is that this guy can't play football anymore. And listen, there's been guys in the past in our league who have engaged in these same activities, many of them. This is a fucking age old problem. And the second reason, I said the first reason I get sick to my stomach when I see

stuff like this is that it's men. So, you know, it's a reality. It's, as I put in an epidemic, it's, it's everywhere. It's probably in houses in my neighborhood. It's probably, you know, couples that you never, you never imagine could engage in this type of behavior. The man of the house supposed to protect his family. Instead, he's beating the shit out of his wife or his kids. Stuff disgusts me.

It fucking disgusts me. But the second reason it makes me sick is because the NFL, it makes us all look like we're a bunch of Neanderthals. and it makes us all look like we're a bunch of bad guys because, you know, when this happens, naturally it's amplified because we are public figures. Now, Chad Wheeler is not such a public figure. And there's people that were upset about how long it took for the news to become mainstream. And I'll get to that in a minute. But it's gross when you play in the NFL and you take pride in the type of men that play our game.

You take pride in some of it. I've played with some wonderful dudes. And just every time something like this happens, you feel fucking terrible for the victim you you feel hopeless for the fact that like men out there are not doing their part in society um and then you also feel embarrassed and angry that everybody's lump in NFL players together in this I mean there are a ton of good men in our league and people like this give the league a black eye a few people when I tweeted my disgust for Chad wheeler and unfortunately I hate this I'm not saying this like it's I deserve a gold star but

you know, I was one of the first guys who tweeted about it. I was like, I woke up, it was a Wednesday morning or Thursday morning? And I'm looking around. I'm like, yeah, people aren't really talking about this. The only people who are talking about Ray Rice. People were mad that Ray Rice was trending and they were the people making Ray Rice trend. What about what are they going to treat this guy like they treated Ray Rice? And why is Ray Rice trending?

It's because I've said Ray Rice twice in this tweet. The reason that Ray Rice didn't get back in the league is because he wasn't the player he was anymore. The reason that Chad Wheeler probably won't be back in the league, I would hope not, is because he's not that good a player. And I'm not saying that like I think that's the way it should be. That's the way it is. Because in two weeks, some of the best players in the game have histories with this. and are taking the field on the biggest stage in Tampa.

And if you want to know why this took a while to get out, because he wasn't very good. And because the NFL doesn't want all roads leading back to the Super Bowl, we're going to have to talk about it. Well, we're here. And that's why I think you've got to talk about these things immediately, whether it's ESPN or NFL network or whatever, because you're going to be there in four days.

Do you want to be real about things and you want people to trust your coverage? Do you want people to look at you as a beacon of consistency? I understand the ebb and flow of, you know, good players, bad players. But we have to call it out whenever we see it. And we can't be afraid that we got our narratives all lined up for the Super Bowl. It's a huge money-making two-week window. We can't be talking about domestic violence and Tyreek Hill. And, you know, Kareem Hunt was just in the playoffs.

And like I said, you can't go back and relitigate stuff. But what we can decide to do today is a little. league is hold our peers accountable. And guess what? It's not always going to be as easy as it was this week. I saw a lot of dudes unloading the clip on Twitter as they should on Chad Wheeler. Bold, bold tweets, haven't heard a word from them when it's their teammate or somebody they know or appear or somebody popular in the league. When stuff pops up and it's somebody we know and it's somebody, you know, we admire in the game or it's like and i'm not saying go backwards i've said this before i don't like some of the best players in the history of our game have checkered past with this and we exalt them

you know uh as people but that's the point we can't relitigate the guys that are in the super bowl sunday what we can decide to do is stand up as a league and say whenever this stuff happens we can keep this same energy for everybody that gets in trouble uh for beating up their girlfriend or bullying their wife or, you know, beating their children. Like we have to call it what it is when it's not just convenient. It's some fucking dumpy third tackle up in Seattle that's not on a team. And nobody really is friends with. So you know, you know who I admire?

Zach Banner. okay, Zach Banner, who's always, like, Steelers tackle, got hurt this year, wishing him well. Shout out to him. I hope he gets better, good player and a really good man. You know why I can tell he's a good man? Because he keeps it consistent. He keeps it consistent. He plays, you know how we all love to get on Twitter and we love to grandstand and we pick our spots because we're like, well, this isn't so, this wouldn't be as popular. I'd be standing alone on this thing. Or if it's a friend or if it's somebody we know, we might not call them out. We're all guilty of that on some on some level. Zach Banner was like roommates with Chad Wheeler at USC. And he came out yesterday

with a really, really powerful tweet, you know, kind of denouncing his friends' actions, which should be the bare minimum, but nobody does it. Nobody does it. How many people do we see denouncing Tyree Kill? How many people did we see denouncing Greg Hardy? I saw guys tweeting yesterday who were visibly upset, and I understand why about, you know, Des Bryant was tweeting about how mad he was at Chad Wheeler, and I'm right there with you. And, you know, saying that he would do X, Y, Z to him. And I don't, I don't doubt it.

But what's changed in the last five years? Greg Hardy walked right back into that Dallas locker. I mean, the closest, the closest comp I have for Chad Wheeler is Greg Hardy. I mean, this was brutal. You saw the pictures, you saw this picture yesterday. or two days ago of Chad Wheeler's girlfriend. I'm not into sharing the picture. I'm not into sharing her name.

Like, I'm not interested in that. Greg Hardy was the last thing I thought about. And it's funny, everybody said, well, are they going to kick him out of the league like Ray Rice? Well,

I hope they don't treat him like Greg Hardy, because Greg Hardy was back in a fucking year, dude. You know, it had to be ugly in that Dallas locker. When he came back, I guess, judging by guys' reactions, but I didn't hear anything about it.

So we can't pick and choose, man like we can't pick and choose we can't pick and choose like who our friends are who who our friends are not who's going to be who's going to be popular we can't we can't say oh well don't tear that guy down like etc like that's the way that's the way we do things and you somebody might be listening to it's like you're kind of breaking rank here i'm not breaking rank like i can't go back and litigate every domestic abuser from the past you can't pull tyreek and frank and those guys off the field. You have to give guys an opportunity to change, right? But that doesn't mean they get a right to play football. And that's what we have to decide going forward. This is a tremendous privilege to play in

this league and to be a role model and to be looked up to. And women and kids watch this game. And so, like, you know, guys in the past who have kind of, you know, maybe before this moment, gotten away with it or, you know, went back out on the field, they're lucky that they got an opportunity to rehabilitate themselves and change. But the next time a Tyreek Hill happens, I want to see people mad. Because, you know, it's kind of like a coach when he's like, when you go make a big player,

you go do something the right way. And, you know, the coach says to the player, well, now I'm going to demand that every time because I know I have it in you. That's how we, I saw this week how we rallied behind rightfully being, fucking livid at a scrub who

did a despicable thing. Like that's the way it should be. Let's do that when the good players get in trouble, huh? I'm gonna be watching next time. I mean, like, and it could be one of, I hope it's not one of my friends. I'm not friends with anybody who acts that way.

But here's the thing. It's like you don't know until you enter into a situation, like until you know, right? A lot of this stuff is invisible. visible. So if it's somebody I know next time, I am going to call them out. If it's something, I'm going to, as a NFL alumni, going to use my platform right here with my microphone and say, this shit is fucked up. It's that simple. And when a guy walks back into your locker room, you know, we can't go back throughout history and relitigate this thing. I mean, some of our

biggest heroes in the game did awful things. And some of them, we really, we really exalt them, man you know somebody asked me about um somebody asked me it's like when when when jim brown comes up i don't really i don't you can he's done a bunch of great things but man what a complicated figure to say to least and so you know i don't buy stock necessarily in a guy that did something like that admittedly for years um we can't go back and i'm not doing the statues thing i'm not doing the we don't need to have some sweeping or maybe we do i don't know let's do this shit every time um we can't be fair weather with this thing good players bad players friends people we never heard of that sums it up it's a disgusting action and we have to be better as men in general and then

the guys who aren't engaging in these actions have to be better as men too and be better advocates It's for women. And I haven't been perfect as far as, you know, seeing things and calling it out either, but I've tried to. So bummer to even have to talk about. But little good news to wrap this thing up. Ron Rivera is cancer-free. Man, that was cool to see him.

And his two pups there in that picture he posted on Twitter last night. So I never played for the guy. I've only come across him a couple times. And if you listen to this pod, you know, I have great respect for Ron Rivera. And what a year for him and that football team against a lot of odds. They got a lot of bullshit thrown their way. He got blamed for a lot of bullshit that was thrown their way by people who had no

idea what they were talking about. And he coached his ass off. And congratulations to him on a great year and one I won't forget watching. Shout out to Mike Sando. Go check out his article in The Athletic this week. Mike Sando's got known Mike Sando all the way. back to St. Louis when he was an NFC West guy. He's a tremendous rider, dude. Some of the stuff is just, I mean, he's the best. He's one of the best, if not the best. And you can learn so

much reading his stuff. I even learned stuff reading his stuff. And, you know, I played the game a long time. But there's so much information in the NFL, you have to rely on these writers, man. You really do. So anytime you get a chance to shout them out, it's impossible to do all your homework all week long and not miss things. And one angle that I appreciate is that, you know, Aaron Rogers has had a lot of problems on the other side of the football with his defense throughout the playoffs, man. And just kind of talking about, you know, Aaron didn't call him hand coverage before the half against the Bucks. He didn't blow that lead against the Seahawks. I mean, they scored enough points to win that game against the historically good defense. He didn't blow

the onside kick. He didn't give up a bomb in overtime. He didn't give up a circus two-point play. That two-point play in that game five years ago or so, whenever that was six years ago at this point, that was like Seahawks football in a nutshell. Horseshoe lodged all the way up their ass. Like that's just the way they win, bro.

And that game was Seahawks personified. I mean, you know, you can't take anything away from them. but they've had some good luck at times. And in that building, it seems to happen. And it happened to Aaron that day. And he's played in a couple games against the Cardinals throughout playoff history where, you know, any other quarterback that had the day he had,

they'd be saying, golly, what an amazing effort. We'll never forget that shootout. He came up just short, his defense, let him down. I'm, listen, I know it's not a hot take, but I'm team Aaron Rogers is not overrated. Okay. And I also think that he wants to stay in Green Bay. He came out this week and talked on Pat McAfee's show. I think he meant, I think he meant sending the message on Sunday. And I think he meant coming out and sending a message, everything's cool because maybe we had a conversation or maybe it's something to do with his coordinator. He wants him to stay. I know he had joked about Nathaniel Hackett during the season. And, you know, he can't leave. You got to take me with him or something like that. Like, I think he wants to stay in Green Bay. I just think he wants them to get their shit together. And that's his. right. You know, it's absolutely his right. And one thing to think about is Brett Favre is somebody that I know they've like buried the hatchet, so to speak. They're in competition, whether or not they're getting along now.

Like I know Aaron wants to best him and he's got a chance to do that on a championship level in Green Bay. And for him, for as big as the shadow of Brett Fav is, he has stepped out of it marvelously. this would be icing on the cake to get one or two more. And they're going to be in that conversation the next five years as long as he's there at quarterback. So I don't know what happens. I'm pretty sure it's much to do about nothing. So shout out to Mike Sando.

Check his article out in the athletic came out this week. And one last thing. I said I'm going to talk about the stocks. AMC looks like it's back now. Okay, the movies. I'm feeling I'm feeling bullish. It's a stock market term. I'm going back to the movies.

Whenever it's safe to do that, of course, I took Whalen to finding Nemo last week. And Violet Crown here in Charlottesville has a nice little operation setup where you can go into the movie with just your party. You bring your whole family.

You know, Arthur Smith could bring all his brother and sisters. It would be safe. You know, everybody's masked at the concession stand. You can get popcorn. There's like nobody in that. It's like Ghost Town. Get your own movie to yourself, me and whale and watch Finding Nemo.

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Terms, conditions, and eligibility restrictions apply. See draftkings.com for details. All right, Ninko's here. It's been a while, dude. He's raising his hands. he's raising the roof he's wearing a flannel he's pale he's pale you're really pale i thought i was pale i'm in new england bro should i take my flannel off i'll i have a drink shirt underneath this but i won't do that no i mean it's tough living in new england what's the warmest day you guys have

uh this time of year it's actually warmer than normal probably due to carbon footprint of uh the world right now you're about to get a bunch of hate We're pointing out that the earth is, well the earth isn't dying, just the people will all die. No, yeah. The earth is going to be fine.

It's just going to look a lot different one day. Just put it, put it this way. If the ocean dies, we're all dead. So just think of it that way. Take it for a guy, take it for a guy that looks like a crab fisherman.

It's very, like literally you look like a crab fisherman right now, giving a global warming talks. I have caught crabs. I've caught crabs in the past. I'm talking to crabs. Yeah. No,

I'm sure you have. Oh, not those. It's amazing. Not the really small ones. I'm talking like the decent size. Not the microscopic ones. Not the ones you can't see with your own eye. That's one of those things that sounds like lice to me.

Like, you know, it's, no. First of all, you know, everyone's talked about the crap. I've never known anyone to have like that really. I've never met somebody who was like, dude, I got crabs. No, no. What is crabs? What is the real crab? Is it like a real crab?

No, it's. It's a microscopic organism, and I don't want to shame any crabs havers. Someone's had crabs, but I've never known anyone. Somebody's definitely had crabs. Travels. Enough about crabs. Let's talk about Tom Brady. Let's talk about Brady Mahomes.

Let's talk about who you're rooting for this weekend. You got to be rooting for your old teammate, right? Yeah. Yeah, I'm rooting for Tom. I definitely am. What's the office space? line or not going to not going to work here anymore. He's he's not going to not going to win if he throws three interceptions like he did last

week. Yeah. Well, he understands that. He understands that if he throws three interceptions, they will lose. I mean, here's the thing with Tom. I love watching Tom play when he's when he's going to clean pocket and nobody's around him and there's no blitzers coming free because when there is one coming and he does have a little pressure on them. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's that's kind of anybody who can't navigate,

I mean, he can navigate the pocket, but anybody who can't escape. Yeah. They kind of only have so many options. When you're 43, it's amazing. I'm 35, okay? There are things that I'm doing. Yeah, I'm 35. When you 36? March. So it's coming up. I'm one year older than you? And we weigh the same, too, by the way. Two, 52. Somebody who is body shaming me. Dude, I get that all the time. I get that. You look like you're 110.

You're too skinny. Why don't you look like you looked when you were on my TV a couple years ago? Don't you put the 20 pounds back on and get sleep apnea and have high blood pressure and all types of terrible outcomes just because I'm used to it? I mean, I get all the time like every time I see somebody every time. They're like, got it. Where'd you go? What happened to you, man?

so much weight. I'm like, I'm like, two fifth, two, hey listen, guy, you look like the guy in the machinist and you're asking me why I look skinny. Anyways, we're Christian bail, Christian bail. Yeah, that's a method actor there. Best actors ever. American Hustle, one of the best scenes

is when he's doing his hair in the intro, he's getting it all perfect. Yeah. He's getting it right. He goes in to talk to Bradley Cooper, is there he's doing the deal and uh christian bail says are you are you messing with me are you are you are you are you effing with me and he says no no no if i wanted to mess with you i do that and he and he takes his comb over and he messes it up and he just looks at him and he doesn't say a word bro it's the best scene i i cry i cry laughing every time i'm bloated every time after i eat like a big salty meal and i just feel like a fat fuck or i've been drinking or i haven't been working out his character

Christian Bale's character in that movie is being bloated personified. I mean, it's exactly how you feel. Nobody thinks you look any different, but when you're bloated, you feel like Christian Bale in American Hustle as a big guy. So that's something skinny people don't take into account is like, you could go eat a bunch of bullshit and you're just going to be skin and bones. We can swell up a little bit. You might not notice it, but we can feel it. T-shirt doesn't feel as sexy on our frames. So there's the scene where he's at the pool and he's just posted up, like figure four stance with his belly out and his shirt on. And he's rocking it and like people dig it when they can just deal with it.

Like when you could just be like, yeah, whatever, this is what I look like. Like, I guess females think it's good look. I would, I wouldn't, I didn't swim when I was 10 years old without a t-shirt on. Like as a 10-year-old because I, you know, my sister made me. So you were a T-shirt pool kid. Yeah, like my sister made me like pull my shirt up and do the truffle shuffle for her friends and like all that really, really devastating. you know those moments that just are just burned into my good thing you've moved on yeah it's fine

you know it's fine but it helped me that helped me along the way to like really get after it and make sure that I was in shape but anyway let's get my point my point about tom Brady is this see I'm 35 years old yes I'm almost 36 and you couldn't believe playing at 43 not just playing I'm talking about like like literally things hurt that you just wouldn't think hurt at all. So imagining making a decision between Chris Jones taking my head off and just getting down. Like that's where I'm going at 43. Yeah, he's just getting down. But the thing that I would say is we feel a certain way because we're burning it at both ends and it's coming down quickly. Like, he's got a much longer wick on this thing, right? Like he's not he's not hitting somebody every play.

He's not, I mean, yeah, granted, he's throwing a lot of footballs. He's been hit a good amount. but like not a line. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's baseball players. It's, I mean, it's people that can play forever. So like TB12, I think TB12 definitely has a place, like the training and the method and the pliability. That definitely has a place for athletes and like adding it into one of your, whatever you like to do. If you're a football player and you want to be flexible, great.

But you still need to have a lot. You still need to be strong. You got to lift weights. Like, you couldn't be a lineback. Can be on the TV 12 method. That's, you couldn't play. Okay, so here's the deal. I haven't told you this yet.

I just started the TB12 method for, I'm going to do it to the Super Bowl. I just started it. Yeah, but you're not playing football. I know, but I just want to see how I do with it. Like you're doing the workouts or you're doing like the eating? Just the general mindset. So you won't, so you drink a lot of water. I'm already there.

You won't burn. I eat pretty clean. You can't mix fruits and veggies because then it cancels each other out. No, I wouldn't do it. that and I wouldn't know night shades for the week which is hard would you rather be a rusher on the chiefs this week knowing what you're up against or a rusher on the bucks to me it's an easy answer bucks absolutely I was gonna say like listen okay Brady sitting duck everything we just described but at the same time it's like we

got ready for that Washington game and we were like man those guys are scary Brady probably didn't want to see him in the playoffs I mean it's not that he doesn't think he's going to beat the Washington football team, but he doesn't want to get killed doing it. They barely touched him, and Brady wasn't quicker with the football. He's got a good offensive line. They protect smart.

And in spots where he has to extend plays, or, you know, it's a really clean pocket. On the other side of things, Patrick Mahomes, two backup tackles. The minute Fisher went down the other day, I was like, holy shit. Circle it up, baby. Circle it up. If you, dude, if we were edge rushers in this Super Bowl, bro, with his drop target and with those two tackles, no offense, those, because those guys get paid too. I'm not saying they're not good players.

Remmers has been a good player in the league for a long time, but it's just such a, it's such a, oh, man, this could be a big day for me. And that's what I'm thinking if I'm a bucks rusher. If I'm a bucks rusher, I'm saying I have Sue next to me. And Vita Vaya. And Vita Vaya. I would say, you all just wreck the inside of the pocket. Like, at least just give me a little push. If you give me a little push and that corner just is a half step better.

Like, if it's a half step, I'm getting to that quarterback. It's a few steps if it's Patrick because he likes to set back there almost out of the camera. I'm saying a half step off of my turn in the toe. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like if he's one step farther back in the pocket. No, I know. straight A to B, like you're going to have a better shot like getting to the quarterback.

And I feel like Mahomes is going to wait for things to develop, like as far as he's going to take a chance. He's going to hold the ball. He might scramble a little bit. If you're the backside guy, you're high and he gets out of the pocket. Like there's always a chance. Tom, on the other hand, he has that internal clock and he knows, okay, one 1,000, 2, 1,000, 3,000, I got to get the ball out.

Got to get the ball out. And he's always checking. Like, if you see him, he sits. he hits his back foot. If he doesn't have his first guy, he'll look to see, okay, like, can you imagine being so good at it that you can go through your progressions and watch the pocket and see, you know, go through all three, four of your progressions and make a stop on the way each time checking the pocket. Rogers, like Rogers, when he's out of the pocket, he'll check his back shoulder to make sure that there's no one on him. He'll look down the field, throw a strike.

Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson does that often. He'll look. and make sure that he's good to go. A lot of quarterbacks, they just, they're so focused on get down the field. Or they just watch the rush. Like if you're a bad quarterback, once you get in a situation, you're just looking at the rush

and you lose everything downfield. But Tom understands, this is the one thing, too, the timing of it all, and this offense, the way that they kind of come together in the last part of the season. In the beginning,

it kind of felt like a struggle, like offensively. They weren't clicking, you know, Evans. Even in the, this last game. Like there's some catches, like the interception, like bounced off Evans' hands. Yeah. Those, those playing. I thought that was high. I mean, we know it was high. I mean, but it was definitely high because when a quarterback throws the ball and the first thing they do is

like jump, like they throw it. They know. They know it's a little bit off. Yeah. When they, like when they like when I throw something in the trash can and I miss or yeah. You know, like, yeah. And, and what I think some people who are kind of overly hard on the whole. hey, if it hits your hands, you got to catch it, that sort of thing. And they think about it, it's hard to jump running full speed. So if you're going to, if you're going to drill a guy for getting hands on something and not coming down with it in a situation, if he just jump a little higher, he's got to, it's got to be like a 50-50 ball or it's got to be like, it can't be somebody running

full speed down the seam or a deep over full speed. Over, overthrowing. It's like impossible. But, you know, I just think that as a pass rusher, if you're JPP, you're like salivating. He had another, you had a big game against the power. He had a huge game. And we knew coming in. I don't know about you, but we talked about it.

It was like, I like the bucks. I've been, the only thing I've been making money off this, this postseason has been the bucks. Everybody else has betrayed me. But so that dovetails nicely into, we were going to do rooting interests. There's, listen, there's always, well, talk about is Belichick rooting for Brady? Obviously, James Winston's

going to come up in this, but there's some interesting rooting interests that pop up. Anytime a big game is happening, and I think the first one for me, I slid it up to the front because we were just talking about it is pocket passers have to be rooting for Brady. Any kid out there that can't run

to save his fucking life, but has a cannon on his shoulder. And not that Brady's ever been the, you know, the biggest arm in the league guy. Yeah. That you got to be, because this could be the last shot at, legitimately, could be the last shot at a real pocket passer winning a Super Bowl. No, I agree. I mean, you look at the way the league has trended the last 10 years, five years.

I mean, it's going towards the guys that can move the RPO. Guys that are your drop back, Drew Bledso, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, like those guys are even, I wouldn't even put Aaron Rogers in a pocket pass. No, he's not. And I think that's part of the conversation is like, what are we considering a pocket passer? A pocket passer to me at the end of my career was the rare guy that I'm not afraid to get outrun by as a 260 pound, the end in his 30s. And I'm an old NFL defensive end, like at my biggest, I was 270. And now there's some big defensive ends, but they're the freaks, you know, like that, and they can run. Like, my barometer would be, can you outrun,

if you can run with an edge rusher or run away from an edge rusher, you're definitely not a pocket passer. Aaron Rogers has never been one, you know, because we, or I'll do this, ask your coach, are you afraid of this guy scrambling? And they're scared shitless of scrambles of scrambles in defensive meeting rooms leading up to a game. But like, you can tell with Aaron Rogers, not every guy threatens you differently. Okay, like, I was saying this earlier. Ryan Tannahill scares me more. He could hurt the defense big, scrambling with his legs,

like the Green Bay play a little while ago. Yeah, yeah. Then Patrick Mahomes scares you, but Patrick Mahomes scares you scrambling in a different way. He's going to scramble, and he's going to throw the ball 65 yards down field. He's also, everybody's going to be in man, and he's going to kill you on a crucial third down for like 20 yards easy.

but he scoots the whole way. It's like his feet barely come off the ground. Like Ryan Tannahill runs a 4-5. You know what I mean? Like they come in all shapes and sizes and styles of scrambling quarterbacks. And Aaron Rogers is one as well. Yeah.

Well, I mean, what about Josh Allen? Like, he's a big-ass dude. He's so not a pocket passer. I don't like, I can barely name any anymore. I know. I mean, Nick Foles. Yeah, that's it. I mean, Nick Follell's,

pocket passer you think Nick could run better if he wasn't getting weighed down back there yeah yeah I mean that's it just gotta be it's like wearing a weight belt probably I know from experience hard time running

yeah we're going to afford like 940s you know it's tough but it's not so bad I mean I'm telling you the game is completely changing and it's getting so soft. It's getting so soft. Like, could you imagine, like, trying to get to the quarterback and, like, you get to him and the ball, he just gets rid of the ball and then you get, like, a 15 yard for, like, shoving him. But he, like, and he flops and then looks at the ref and goes, like, because

they're flopping now, like, his quarterback or flopping, like, uh. Mahomes flopped recently. Patrick Mahomes. He just, he, he, he, no, he flopped himself into the heater. Like, he literally flopped himself and like slid all the way off to the heater and then like looked at the refs and the rest were like no like you didn't really touch but you know what as long my thing with flopping is and I've always had this whether it was in basketball or football because I flop before like in a personal foul situation to just kind of be a dick like flew backwards and you know like that's I uh LeBron you know you have to be an honest flop you have to be self-deprecating when you flop soccer so I can't be like the soccer flop where it's like

You can't, you can't, yeah, you can't leave on a stretcher. Yeah, you know, like on one of those fucking gurneys that they had a match. And you're perfect fine, and you're perfectly fine. And then like run back. Like, what is that, dude? What's going on with that sport? That's, but the game, but when you watch the game, I understand that they're trying to, like, the thing that, okay, so for a, for example, the, uh, the almost touchdown by the Browns, that was a touchback, right? that they were scored.

And, you know, people are up in arms like, they should have called helmet to helmet. I mean, I've seen more running backs than offensive people put their heads down. Oh, for sure. And they literally hit the freaking defender in the side of the head. And then they throw the flag on the defender for hitting the running back or the receiver with their helmet. But I'm like, a guy running and doing this, like, where do you go? Like, are you going to like just do this? The way everything is litigated now is crazy.

In my last couple years, I got a couple rough in the passer penalties. I was like, are we for real right now? I'm getting out of the game at a good time because when I got in league and probably, you know, you being a tad old than me, like, you know, you know it was different. I was 06. Yeah, I was, I was 0.8 was my rookie year. So, so like, you remember how run schemes were when we got in the league. It was power counter.

it was downhill, it was some zone. But everything in the run game specifically, like honestly, what I struggle more adapting to in the NFL later in my career was the run game, not the past game, even though the clock sped up in pass rush, like now timing is crazy,

that sort of thing. Free technique, playing three technique in New England wasn't that fun, but I was a trooper. Yeah. see um but it was honestly this the sideline to sideline nature of everything going on with offenses now like jet motions like reverse the misdirection it it stopped being like a fucking fist fight in the run game and at least you could will yourself to be a part of it and when it started to be this thing where you're like a dog on a highway just like watching cars go by and not

knowing what the hell is going on like if it started to feel against some team that stretched the field in every direction like you were a rookie again. Okay, so here's a comparison. If you took, say, a team from the 90s or the early 2000s, like a defense, right? And you had them the best defense of the early 90s or the 2000s, whatever defense that would be. And you had them play in today's game. First of all, like dudes are so big. Like I'm talking inside line backers for 250.

The line. Yeah, offense is going to dictate to the defense. Oh, but I'm saying, do you think a defense that is built like that would have any chance in today's game? Well, they could possibly do it because, but they'd have to, they'd have to play with their lineup. And like, how much person, they just change their personnel. There are guys on, there are guys on those teams that they could be like, how much time do we have to prepare? Like, could I, could I run a big safety at, like, you know, an outside? backer position. Could I,

could I live in nickel on early down? John Lynch couldn't. John Lynch, think about all the career. John Lynch, like, he wouldn't be able to play right now. Right. But the way he played, like, he would be not in the league. Like, they would disqualify him every game.

He literally took people's heads off. It was a monster as a safety. I'm trying to think, like, there were a few guys like that. I mean, just the physicality is just not allowed anymore. at Ryan Clark. Look at your guy Ryan Clark. Who was the safety for the, the cowboys that used to just kill everybody. Was it Roy Williams? Roy Williams. Roy Williams. I mean, Jack Tatum. Yo, do you know your dad

DMs me? He told me yesterday. We were talking, bro. Me and your dad were talking, bro. I posted yesterday the Little Wing rendition that Stevie Ray Vaughn had, which is my favorite rendition of Little Wing, okay? But it's instrumental. Big Mike Nink. hit me up, he was like, this is amazing, blah, blah, blah. And then I looked back. And he had also responded to me posting a funkadelic song. And he loves funkadelic, bro. I had posted, can you get to that, which is probably one of the most popular songs. And he was all over it. So my old man used to run like right out of the service. He was in California and he was doing something. And let's just say it probably wasn't legal.

Something to do with mushrooms or something. Yeah. Yeah, yes. He was making trips from Cali to Chicago, Cali to Chicago. And he said he was going from California to Chicago nonstop. Like he wasn't stopping. And it's, I don't know what the time is. I mean, it's like 24, I don't know, like 24 hours nonstop.

Yeah, probably Cali to Chicago sounds about right. Yeah. And I was like, how did you? And he was telling the story. He got pulled over by it. cop because he was in like an impala like a 67 impala doing like a 95 miles an hour and he came over and people need them boomers yeah right so he's cop pulls them over you know he was like I'm getting off the service I'm getting back home I'm just excited um and he I'm like dude how did you drive 24

hour straight he said simple speed that's amazing your dad's gonna fuck you up for narking on him Doesn't give a shit, my old man. See, my house is more like a mafia code. Like, it's just mafia rules in my house. Yeah, but he's, you know, my dad loves that, you know, we're talking about him right now. So I guess you look at it, the last two years, almost 15% of teams rushing numbers come from quarterbacks.

I just think Tom Brady might be the last stand at the Alamo here. And teams are going to have to play less man in the future. Yeah, because there's a lot of man beaters. and when your back's turn, what happens with the quarterback's rambling? And even if you put a spy on a quarterback, it's really hard for one guy in space, unless you're like, I don't even know, like a super duper athlete that's great. Unless you're Devin White. Yeah, like great in space, shadow somebody, they give you the shake, and then you're just like, gotcha.

Like for a guy like myself, for an inside linebacker, outside linebacker, you're in space with any, you know, come on, Jackson. Dude, Andrew Luck ran right at me. They dropped me in, like, a zone in the middle of the field in Philly. Thanks a lot, guys. And fucking, there's no need for me to be back there. One thing I would say, I'm not a good dropper. Backwards, you're much better. You are 100% forwards and, like, backwards.

It's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no. They got the crazy eyes. Pocket passers. They're out, dude. So this is, enjoy it while you can. Devin White came up, though. That's going to be one of my favorite matchup. I know we're talking about what we think of the game in a second,

but Devin White, how do you use him to pick and choose, like how you add rush Pat Mahom, Patrick Mahomes, how you, do you spy him a little bit? I mean, he's not quite, like, to me, I don't know, how would you, how would you use an extra rusher against Patrick Mahomes? Well, number one, I would make sure that Kelsey or any motion by Hill within a three yards of the tackle box.

So if Tyree Kill is motioning across the line of scrimmage or coming across fast, and he's anywhere near a tackle, I'm having my extra rusher, my rusher stand up, and I'm just saying just give him a little nudge. God, you're such a New England guy. It is a New England thing.

But when you watch last week, the Buffalo Bills, we're letting Kelsey get off the line of scrimmage, nobody was touching him there was nobody around him he had no coverage on him ever how about the last team to go back to back champions like with that would be the 0304 Patriots that's a good one anybody who has been

who's on that team and it's it's always like it's always talked about like the only team to go back to back in a long time has been the 03 of Patriots so like do you think guys on that team are kind of rooting for Tampa but just so Kansas City doesn't go back to back and then they kind of steal the thunder of the team that's gone back to back.

I think they are. Of course they are. You absolutely are, dude. Like everybody, here's the thing about athletes. We're the ultimate competitors. So no. Like, we don't wish ill on people that replace us or guys that take our positions

or guys that, you know, guys that, I mean, certainly if you get beaten the playoffs and this will come up in a second, like you're probably rooting for the team that, you know, that has a chance to beat the guys that just disrespected you. Like, I think, not that the Chiefs were any more assholes than the bills. Josh Allen threw the football in Buddy's face the other day, and the bills were chippy too.

But I bet you that the bills are sitting at home rooting for Tom Brady, which sounds ridiculous, but they are because Kansas City just beat them. Yeah. I was thinking to myself that if the matchup had to take place, and it was Buffalo versus Tampa. The Buffalo Bill's fans would have absolutely lost their shit. If they had lost to Tom Brady for 20 years, they get into the Super Bowl the first time since the 90s,

and they lose to Tom Brady. We literally just, we talked about this last week. I said to Wookiee, who was here that night, I said it's probably a good thing, actually, they didn't get there because the mental death grip,

that even though a lot of those players weren't there for all those years of Tom, I'm tormenting them. It's just like you're going to be told all week. First off, coaches love to double talk. They love to say it's just another game, faceless opponent, nameless opponent, whatever. But then they want to pull your motivation heartstrings

because like something happened seven years ago and you weren't even on the team. Like you're going to be hearing by Friday, if not from people in the building, you know, from people in your community and local media and national media, you got a chance to slay the dragon. This is how they drew it up.

And then all, the pressure on you. And so I think actually if the bills were going to make it at the Super Bowl and I think with Josh Allen they'll be back. I really do believe that. I don't say that lightly. And with the job they've done and McDermott and being like those guys

have got it going on. You would much rather get a better draw next time than go this first time. It means nothing. You told me this one day. It gets way worse to go to the Super Bowl and lose. you might as well not go. You don't want to go.

You don't want to go. Because then you're like, you constantly are thinking about that particular moment and how shitty that feeling is. And you're never going to, like there's guys that get in that game. There's guys.

And that's when I watch the, what's the Buffalo, the three Buffaloes or whatever. Four Falls of Buffalo. Four falls, yeah. Like, I feel so bad for those guys.

Like, nobody really knows. the pain of what those guys think about every single day, except for a guy that's been in a Super Bowl, and they lost. And they never got back. So, like, when we lost in 2012, I remember, like, looking up at the clock, and this was before, like, the West Welker, like, if you would have caught it, we won 100%. And that didn't happen. And I remember looking, like, right before that, right before we were getting close to score in there, I looked up at the clock, and I was like, man, I'm going to do this. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. Like, we're going to do it.

And then just shit unraveled. And then I remember looking at everything, like the confetti falling. And it was like the Giants run on the field. And you were out there like Stefan Diggs watching them celebrate. Like, why would you do that though? I didn't even watch them celebrate. I went right inside. But you notice when their guys are watching celebrations.

You know what's around them? You know what's around? Cameras, but I actually believe it. I actually, I'm going on record. No, I totally agree with you for most part. But Diggs is a maniac. I know he's at. I know he's that motivated.

But yeah, you're right, though. If the fans don't think about it this way, as players do, and players are never going to call each other out on it, like specifically to, like, tear a guy down. But we see things through a totally different lens because we know how this stuff works. Like, there's a lot of dudes that know where the cameras are. I don't think Stefan Diggs is like that.

I'm just saying. For the most part, you know, when, like, there's a TFL and maybe like two or three guys are in on it, The one guy gets up and sprints 25 yards away, like sprints 25 yards away. And then the camera goes to that guy. Oh, yeah, it settles. And he just stops and he's like. And he stops and he does like his thing and like screams,

but he really just put a hand on a shoe. You know, it's like, come up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're definitely talking about the DB, slap somebody's ankle on a reverse, which actually is kind of impressive. I always think, I know what you're thinking here. you're thinking bubble screen corner has great instincts

and you're not thinking about it this way you're just seeing that he makes a shoe string tackle so I'm okay with the corner getting up and doing the chest roll thing you know they do that chest roll thing it's like shoulders go up and they roll forward and then you've got to hold your oh

it's like you're flexing yeah that's what they do that's a DB thing I know exactly what you're talking about and imagining I think about it with like sacks I think about like a huge coverage sack or even like a PbU sometimes. Like PbUs, yeah, PbU's like

it depends on how you did it. It depends on how you did it. I know where you depends on how you did it. There's a difference. Like fourth and fourth and three PbU. Yeah. batted ball. I mean, that's that's game changing.

Maddie P got mad at me for celebrating by myself one time. Remember that? Yeah, that's the thing too. Maddie P's back with the Pats. What's he going to do? Is he back with the Pats? Yeah, he signed back with the Patriots. Good for him.

He's back as like a Ernie Adams. I don't know. He's like going to do multiple things. He's not like, I don't know, because Steve Belichick's the D.C. So I don't know. You know what? Matty Pee, I really do believe this. I'm not saying this like fucking around. Like I really think some coaches that just made such a mad dash to try to

I mean, he's been hustling for years, like, just grinding his ass off, like, every NFL coach. But some, I don't think he's as good at, like, turning it off. He could use a year of just, like, resetting his battery. Like, I even, I talked to him after he got let go. I said, man, just go enjoy the kids. Go enjoy the band. Yeah, spend a year, man. I also think that you can learn a lot.

And I never thought about this with coaches before. But I know that, like, since I retired, I learned a lot about myself and, like, working on things. if you've just had your head down for 20 years coaching and you've never taken like more than a couple weeks off to like enjoy and reflect and be beyond that to self to to self audit like what are my processes as a coach what have I been missing let me reflect on like the last year I think more coaches should take time off well this is the thing too like I think back on my career and bill and the Patriot way is always about like next turn the page

like turn the page next year it's a new year another run another run another run another run like you don't ever like really enjoy the moments that you're in you don't enjoy the actual moment so focused on the next moment like

right like I remember being in meetings and you know new guys would be in the building because it was you know the free agency and all that stuff but yet like the ring ceremony was coming right and bill would be like all right you know like in team meeting because we're in like o'tia's at that point like uh you know we got the ring ceremony this weekend let's uh let's let's not make this a big thing or you know big in it yeah you're like you're like what do you mean it's like a ring ceremony it's like bad ass

like that's freaking awesome and yeah there's guys here that haven't that's what i was doing when I didn't come to the ring ceremony. I was actually the biggest patriot of you all. That's right. You were just moving on to the next. I was on to Bonaroo. You were on to Bonaroo. I do feel,

I still feel, I feel, I feel, I don't feel bad about it. I'm just like, damn, that looked fun, actually. Like I, I told you to come.

It was undersold. It was undersold. It was undersold, not by you, but in general. It just like, you know. I said you've got to come to this thing. The only footage I ever saw of a ring ceremony. Well, I didn't have a choice because we had Boneroo booked from like way out,

and it costs, a good bit of money to rent a few buses and go to Bonner. I was like, sorry, man, like, business is business. The only footage I had ever seen was like Tom back when his dimple chin was real pronounced and he had like that thing. Did they inject something? I don't know, dude. He used to have the Oh, it's crazy. I saw like a we could just ask him. We know him. Yeah, I want to know, did he shave his jawline down or something? No, he didn't, bro. He just started, he stopped eating Arby's and shit, which is what I just had some Arby's a little bit ago. How does your job? How does your jaw getting narrower. Your face gets slimmer, dude, when you, and you get older. My bones?

Like, how do my bones get narrower? No, his bones didn't get narrower? I don't know. People change. Its whole face is narrow. It's the whole thing. It used to be this big. Now it's that big. Maybe he went through a black hole, bro. Maybe Tom Brady went through a black hole. I read an article the other day about what would happen if he went through a black hole. You want you to go back in time or something? No, it's spaghetti fives you, which is a word that I think they made up only for this for this reason. I feel like that's... Spaghettiify. I think that's

in cloudy with a chance of meatballs. No, it's a real thing. When you go through a black hole, it squeezes you like this and stretches you out this way. So eventually you turn it into like the longest piece of spaghetti ever. Maybe Tom Brady's going through a black hole. He has the resources.

Listen, they say you can't see black holes. Him in Musk. Yeah, he does. But this was back when he had like the butt chin, like the hard the what happened to that that's a tough chin look at i mean that's not a tough chin dude this is a tough chin right here me myself and irene he went and got the tough chin yeah but you're right you're right you're right you're right he had to me myself and irene so you have like you have a chiseled jaw line you're right i do you have like that sergeant like yeah like that's why i smoke so much bud

because i have to calm down i have so much testosterone and fucking if you had this like you could be like in a full metal jacket with the hat on like this. Exactly, dude. If I, if, if, if, if, if, if I didn't have my pen, I'd be like, uh, I'd be like, uh, I'd be like a drill sergeant or something. I just wouldn't, I didn't want that life. I respect everybody that has that life, but I don't think you for your service. I just, I'm just not that tough.

But like the only footage I ever saw with that ring ceremony was Tom Brady and his dimple chin in like a different haircut. That was like the first one. Well, they didn't, they didn't make that one look that fun. They have like a like, like, clear. clear room. It was a circular room by some harbor and it was dreary out. No.

And there was... He's got a tent. Oh, so that was at his house. Yeah. At his house in his backyard with a massive tent. Cigar. The ring ceremony in Philly was fun as shit. But I knew that second time around. But it's nowhere near like the parade, dude. So like when we talk about that plenty.

So here's another one. Here's another rooting interest. D. Ford. Oh. Think about who D. Ford's rooting for. D. Ford. D. Ford's rooting hard against the, the Chiefs. Oh, yeah, yeah, 100%.

I mean, like, and this is what I was saying earlier is, like, we're petty. I'm never going to tell you if I'm rooting against the team. I root for my friends, but if a team wins or loses, like, I don't, you know, do you want if you just leave a team, do you want them to, like, go win a Super Bowl? No, especially not when you jumped off sides in the New England game. at the end of that game in Kansas City and it was one of the most back-breaking you know like in a

Disception they win the game D's the man dude I love D and he's a great rusher and all that stuff it was just it could happen to any of us and that's why I think like that night and other nights like that where you see a guy jump off sides and but that was like the ultimate man he didn't jump though he just he just flinched

no he didn't flinched this is what happened oh yeah wait was he off sides he lined up in the neutral zone which is like they kill you over that And the reason he did that was because he went from a two-point stance and he put his hand down. Yep. So if you're a two-point rusher, which you like to rush out of a two-point, I'd like to rush out of a two-point. But if you line up like your normal alignment with a two-point stance and then you go down to get a better get-off with a three-point stance.

You just got to remember that your feet are where your hands are supposed to be. Yes. And he forgot that part. But it's just one of those things that like you you it's that's one of the scariest things about the Super Bowl that I didn't consider until we were in it is like damn there's also a lot of risk here involved too like you could be the guy which for a D-Lyman to be the guy you'd have to either miss a sack that leads to a game winner or a game clincher or a bomb that leads to a 407 Patriots you missed a sack yeah no oh seven I wasn't on the team oh wait never mind who the win the the freaking oh the Tyree thing yeah but tell me right now who missed tell me tell me right now who missed that sack I think it was I think Brayble missed them I think somebody else missed them yeah but nobody really remembers who missed that sack because David Tyree took the

and Eli Manning took but it's because that was spectacular yes I'm talking about if you have a if you're like the free runner like my biggest nightmare you know my biggest nightmare was actually a free runner sack A free runner sack in the Super Bowl is the most terrifying thing on planet Earth. I'm just thinking about it now. You just slide off to Sean Watson. And in the back of your head, you're like, look. Yeah, that's a good one.

But he goes down easy, though. He goes down easy, though. But it was a runner. And as I'm coming at him, I remember this like yesterday, I got in because it was a flush left, right? And I was, I was, you know, I was actually back or left. So I was coming through the line of scrimmage looking for a hole, you know, like high towers off the edge. Three techniques, high, nose, loop inside on the center. And I was coming around the B gap and I saw the opening and I just hit the opening.

And it was just him and me and he was like this. And, you know, like earlier in that game, I had a- You caught him with his eyes down field. Then he saw me. No, I know. He did this. And I was like, and that's why I kind of ended up like that because I like didn't want to hit him. with my hands, like in the face or anything, but I was so nervous. Like, if you see the tape of me

trying to sack him, I literally like kind of stop running and I'm like doing this. I'm telling you, but you caught him in a hitch and when you catch him in a hitch, he actually will crumble. Like, like he will go down like Brady if you catch him in a hitch. If you catch him and he expects you, he'll make you look miserable. But actually I had to sack the same way, not on as big as stage. I got off on the ball early. Luke Wilson was barely out of his stance. Like I just had a good and Russ was like almost like surprised. I think it was a three step. And it's funny if they took a picture,

his head would be down. And I was like almost like, damn, you know that feeling when you're running in? You're like, I'm going to miss. So you kind of like, what the fuck?

This is awkward. And he just goes down. But you got it though, right? Yeah, I got it. But it looks the exact same as that. I mean,

like, I don't know. Isn't that? So earlier in the game in the Super Bowl, I had a free shot at him. And he was looking downfield. But he felt me. and he and russell does a great job of like he'll sit and he kind of bobs like when he's got the ball

he like kind of like does this and when he feels anything he just like rips his shoulder forward and then pops back up and i freaking miss his shit out of him you know it's like how about that you could add a multi-sac super bowl like tray flowers hey 90 mil hey good for him man when i do man when i tell you He's a guy you just are happy when he's like, Trey's a guy you just are happy for, dude. He doesn't say anything. He's just such a good dude. Out of which loss did you root hardest against the team that was playing in the Super Bowl?

And like I said earlier, probably the bills are rooting against the Chiefs, yeah? The bills are definitely rooting against the Chiefs. I would probably say vegetables. No, fruits, those are fruits. I'd probably say when we lost to, like the Broncos, I wanted to see them win. I wanted to see like...

Really? Yeah, I wanted to see Wes get one, which they lost. They lost to the Seattle. I wanted to see Peyton Manning get one, so the year after when they beat us, you got one. Yeah. The Ravens, I didn't want to see the Ravens win. And then the Bears probably rooting against Mahomes. Of course.

That would be the worst offseason in the world. That's all they talk about. That city's like we should have had Mahomes. Yeah. And if he wins his second title in two years, the same offseason as the other guy you didn't pick walks and walks right by you out of Houston and is like, hey, thanks for coming out. Like I'd rather go play in Detroit.

That is, that situation is odd to me. DeShon's. Yeah, the Texans. I think they lied to him. And I think Jack used to be, who we know. So here's my thing. They kill Billio. Billio trades Hopkins away.

They absolutely destroy him for that. You're going to be the new head coach and your Nick Casario, and you trade away arguably the best quarterback you've had in your franchise, and he's young. Well, the difference, I guess, would be that What's had the best year of his career? You're going to trade him away? That sounds so stupid.

All you had to do was, you know, your other option is, where do you have a better chance to win? Giving him, if he wants Bianami. If he's a good coach, a bad coach, I don't know. I'm not there, just like all these coaches. I have no idea. But, like, what's going to give you a better chance to win? And maybe Eric doesn't want that job,

which I wouldn't want that job. Maybe he found out Eric's not interested in that job, and Deshawn's like, well, I don't like any of the other guys that you're considering pairing me with. Or maybe Deshawn just doesn't try, like,

will never trust somebody from New England. Ever. I think that he's just done with the New England experience. Well, then he's going to go down to Miami and get New England South, but packaged differently with B-Flow.

B-flow is just so different. I don't think he'll go to Miami either. I really don't. I think the Saints will put it in a massive push to get him. Can they, Can they afford him? I mean, depends on what they're willing to give up. You know, Michael Thomas, they would probably let Michael Thomas go for him.

I mean, I'm sure they would, but they're just so far above the cap. I think, gosh, when you're looking, huh? I would give, I mean, what is the value on a young franchise quarterback at this point? It's everything. It's everything. I mean. Give them a first rounder with Michael Thomas and Cam Jordan. I'll give you two first round.

Yeah. I mean, because think about it this way. When you were playing and you had a first round pick come in, yeah. We're like third, fourth, fifth year, like you always see the first rounder and be like, he ain't going to do it this year. Like he's just not going to happen this year. Like you can be the best rookie. Also, what are the odds you hit on a top 10 pick? It's like it's at the best 50-50. It's so rare. It's so rare. So I would rather take a guy that's already established who's already has his feet wet in the NFL has performed at a high level, just came off a great season with not many weapons in the receiving corps.

He's going to go somewhere. Someone's going to pay a lot of money for him, and the Texans are going to be in a bad spot. People are talking about the Rams right now. The Rams? Think about what the Rams would be with that defense and him as a quarterback. Super Bowl favorites.

Yes, 100%. Super Bowl favorites. Now, we'll see if you take much of a hit there with Brandon Staley even, but what do you think? Do you think Bill, like this has been something people have asked me a lot. Has Bill, I think he's probably neutral on it. Maybe deep down, he's like, well, if I had a gun to my head, maybe I'd rather Tom not win the year he leaves. But I don't think he's really sweating it much. Am I wrong?

I don't know he cares. Yeah, dude. I think he, I honestly think that he's probably like, I hope. hope he does well. I don't think he's going to wish him that he loses a Super Bowl. Bill, like a lot of guys that are lifetime football people. I'm talking about coaches, GM, like, they're wired differently. Like, they don't focus on anything, but what do I have to do for next year? Like, what do I have to do? What do we have to do for our team? Like, yeah, they went off. They did good, great for them. Like, what do we do we're doing it right now? Like, they're going through their,

they're everybody on the roster. They're going through free. agents. They're going, you know, they got a ton of cap space. Like, Bill has had so much success, and he's, he's won so many Super Bowls. Like, I don't really think, I don't think he cares. I think he's just like, yeah, all right. We moved on from him, like, and we couldn't get the weapons around him. So whatever. Like, that's, well, I mean, he's been very realistic about the kind of calculated risks that they've taken and putting all the poker chips on, you know, pushing to the front of the table. And it's just that window's closed now. And they're trying to work on starting a new window. I think he's much more concerned with, um, you know, this window than the guy

that just walked out of the last one. I really do think that because I think he's also very secure in his legacy, dude. He's con, he's cemented. He's already, they're probably already started a bronze statue with the cut off sleeves. That's what I'm saying. Like, his nickname is the hoodie. Okay. Like, that is a, that is one of the most popular articles of clothing in the world. I love a I mean, like every time you put a hoodie on, like maybe you think about Bill Belichick. Like he's synonymous with something you wear every day in the wintertime. He's the fucking goat, dude. What is he worried about?

He's not worried about that. Making $25 billion a year for the last 10 years. He's fine. Yeah, dude. And he likes the beach up there, if you call that the beach up there. The cape. He's happy. He's probably exactly where he would want to be.

He probably wouldn't change anything about his life. So this is a different week. There's no big event. The Super Bowl is the Bucks are the host team. Yes, we got it. What does that mean? We'll talk about it in a second. But what does it mean for Kansas City to get to stay home?

Like what? Is this a dream come true? I think that it's less distractions for them to do their preparations at home, fly in, play the football game. I mean, you take all that like circus media availability. It is. In a hotel for a week. You know, you're going to another facility to practice.

You're literally just practicing for two weeks at your facility. The same facility you've done everything. You sleep in your own bed at night. That is wonderful. I would love to have done that. Because when you do the media availability and the circus and that, you've got a few days off early. You're going to have some idiots that are going to do something that they shouldn't. I mean, yeah, with COVID, it's a different way of life right now.

But I think that having just that home base and that comfort of being in your own facility, there's nothing like, you know, your own lot. Think about your own locker. Like your locker at the end of the year. It's just a mess of things. Yeah. Oh, everything's at. You know, like, oh, I need those cleats.

Bang, there they are. You don't have to pack. You don't have to put your whole thing that, you're stressing about that. You're like, did I get everything? Do I have everything? You forgot like a mouthpiece that you love. Was that Houston locker room nice when we were down there? we practiced at the university

yeah but I don't remember the locker room well I remember sneaking out past the weight room so I didn't have to go work out with Moses two days before they had like a big couch with a huge screen he heard that but he didn't want to they had all the lockers

it was like they were kind of closed off you couldn't see through but there was a big couch big screen it was nice yeah it was not yeah but it's just the the creature comforts of like hey this is my cold tub this is like you know you have a routine you Like when you're in your own facility, you have your, you know where your tub's at, you know where the

showers at, you know where the, you go, you take a deuce in your own, your own toilet. Yeah. It's just, it's nice. You go get your ankles taped. You know where you're going. Yeah, but also there's like everybody in the building that has to work on anything but like coaches, Super Bowl Week, they have to okay a lot of football operation stuff. Like, all right, where are we staying?

How far is that from the, like, like. And then where's the practice facility? And then are we going to do our walk through there that day and stay there the whole day, where we're going to do our meetings, et cetera, that whole deal. That's another minute, five minutes, 10 minutes, 30 minutes away from prepping for the game.

And both of these teams as an equalizer don't have to do this this year. But I think Kansas City kind of is off the hook because relative to Tampa, Tampa being at home, I've gotten so many texts from people, these last two weeks like, yo,

you coming out of Tampa? Like, there's stuff going on down there. Stuff going on down there. Okay. So hear me out. And I said this like week one. I said with COVID,

what would happen if like on a Friday, Tom Brady has COVID? Can't get COVID. You cannot. TV 12, no, TB12 method. Oh, but I'm saying, okay,

I get it. But I'm saying, you're in Tampa, what's Florida, like a hot spot for COVID, and you have people coming into Tampa and you've got, you know, family members at one, I think there's what, 16,000 tickets or whatever? Like, you have people that are coming in to come see this game. Like, I would literally, I don't want to see anybody. I'd be so, I would be so paranoid about.

No, and think about the expectations. Everybody expects to be seen and entertained. No, but I'm saying the week prior to the game, if you have a positive COVID, test you're not playing in the Super Bowl. That's what they say. You're not playing. That's what they say. What if Tom Brady gets COVID? They're not pushing the game back. Blaine Gabbard Mahomes? There you go. That's it.

I remember Gabbart Mahomes? No offense to Blaine Gabbard. I'm just saying like. It'd be like game stop. It'd be boom. People are winning and losing money. Oh, goodness. Or Mahomes. If Mahomes are anybody, you know, or receiving, just like in the regular season when like the Brown Brow's lost, all their receivers. Like, you lose Godwin, Evans, and AB. Have fun. Yeah, dude, it's a scary week.

And this is a scarier week if you are Tampa because fans don't understand. Like, yes, there's no big parties. That doesn't mean there's not going to be parties. We're talking about Florida here. Yeah, there's nobody's where. Florida, like FaceTime somebody in Florida. You thought, you'd think they were in 2018. Yeah, they're at bars.

restaurants like there's no COVID. They're fine. And guess what? There's going to be some young guy. I can't even say that without like the Wayne's World reference. Okay, so somebody on that team is going to get a call. You know, you've got your relative factor, which you just brought up. Everybody and people don't understand this.

Like everybody thinks they have a right to your time or your commitment, Super Bowl Week or tickets or that sort of thing. Like it is a crazy process. People are not good at thinking outside. of themselves and their wants and their needs so they don't triangulate that there are 15-20 thems Super Bowl week and it piles up so not just that you got people come by the hotel and people like but can we just see you for a second like that sort of thing like what is the point like I get it I appreciate it I've been waiting for this my whole life I don't need you to congratulate me in person

you know like they're going to be dealing with that but they're also going to be dealing with like 10 o'clock you know there's a party down here in Ibor City bro Man, you can't do that. Like that's where, I guess, your leadership and the team has to come in place. And you have to have guys that are just like, yo, we need to do the right things here for the next two weeks. After we win this game, you can go do whatever you want. You can take your ass to the freaking Bahamas. You can take your Super Bowl winning money.

Go do whatever you want. Go to freaking Miami Gardens Boulevard in Miami. Go have fun. Go knock your socks off. You got all the time in the world to get that stuff out of your system for the next 10. 10 days. What would you do? Like specifically, what would you tell a younger player? I would say, like if I could wave a one, I'd say, guys, we're going to a hotel, dude. I would say, look, dude, just everybody, listen up. For the next two weeks, I want you to do this. I want you

to do this for me. If at any point, you're getting pulled which, like one way or the other to go somewhere to see somebody that you really don't know where they've been, because this basically could affect everybody in this room. You could just, you could go. see somebody, go to a party, bring that shit back into this room, and guess what? This whole D-line isn't playing or the whole receiver for isn't playing. So think about what you need to do in the next two weeks to make sure that you're healthy and your family's healthy. Because beyond that, I don't give a shit. Like, you need to make sure we're healthy. Your family's healthy. Let's go out here to win this football game because after that, you can have as much fun as you want.

My favorite story about Game Week when we were in Houston was. So Alan Branch and me were talking about like champagne like baseball champagne the whole year like if we win a championship because i don't know if it no he packed them then he no he didn't pack him so alan forgot to get champagne like earlier which you want to be sly about because you don't want to like if you have champagne in your in your bag and you lose you don't want anybody finding that out but which is funny because you know people want you to expect to win but if you buy champagne you're a fucking you know so so it was like morning of and that time when everybody meets to get their tickets and there's being in a hotel super bowl time feels like being in a fish bowl you can close all the blinds in your hotel

and you can turn the lights off but you feel like there are people peeking in your window about a thousand of them right outside they can you can hear them you can feel them down the lobby it's hard to sleep so imagine going to the CVS fighting through throngs of people in our patriots gear sneaking in the back aisle the morning of the game on the way to the bus is to get seven bottles of Andre cheapest champagne well you're buying it at CVS yeah that's what we did that day and they were clinking around in our little duffel bags and shit and how about at half time i never thought about this what if i'd walked back into that and seen that stupid bottle of Andre after that loss hey bro we we were looking at each other remember we were looking at each other like this uh looking at each other like this

looking at each other like this we were talking about it out loud yeah we're like this sucks like half time and you were looking at me like damn i feel really bad for you you played your whole career losing and you got teased with winning i was like oh man you came here to win one and we were so close but not close at all and then we get back in the in the locker room and we don't even know how to really spray the champagne that's just like it's just like when you're a kid and they dropped the pop rocks and soda but it was less powerful.

That's how it was coming out. Yeah. No, it's funny. Like when we tied it up, we're like literally standing next to each other. And then we won the toss and they have the drive down and they scored. Oh yeah. They were just like,

oh, we put our helmets down. We won. We put our helmets down. Two hours ago we were talking about how bad the plane ride was going to be. Yeah, I was like it's going to be a bad. Hey. People are always like, did you believe?

Did you believe the whole time? I'm like, no. No. Not at all. No. I was, half time, I thought it was done. I thought we were done. Thank you.

Thank you for, for giving it. In my head, in my head, I'm like, if the offense goes out and goes three and out, it's, we're, we're done. It's over. They go out, fine. Go get your haircut. What kind of haircut you getting today? I'm going to trim.

I'm going to fade. I'm going to fade this real low, about a number one up to here. Keep these power alleys because I got to brush this forward. So you can't go. You look so Eastern Block right now. It's unbelievable, dude. Hey, I made this hat too. That's a cool hat.

I ordered this hat. Yeah, how did you do that? You got a presser? You put the... I went to the seamstress. I had them press this on. Oh, I've always wanted to do that with my hats. Hey, Rob Ninkovich.

It's always a pleasure. I'm going to get my haircut. See later. See you. All right. You guys have a good one. I just want to say this, an Arby's update. People really, I mean, for all the socials that we put out, like, I swear to God, we've had some, like, we've had some fucking sit downs with some really famous people who have said some profound things on this show.

And we've posted socials and people are like, tweeting about The Bachelor right now. Sorry, I don't want to be bothered with Tom Morello or Eddie Vedder or Calvin John. But we posted a social about my love for Arby's and defending Arby's avenging Arby's honor yesterday and people freaked out, man. And read, I just want you to know this is what it feels like to give a bad take. Oh yeah, I got drug a little bit, but that's okay. I want to give you, you've had the curly fries now. I've had them before, yeah.

How many years ago? Yeah. It's been about six or seven years. I was thinking about it today because a friend of mine who is there the last time I went, he's actually a listener. He was texting me about my RV's take. Kevin O'Malley, shout out Kevin. He's a birds fan.

Oh, nice. Yeah, that's the guy you told me about him. Yeah. And he helped jog my memory that I made a couple of mistakes while ordering. I think I got the wrong milkshake and I waited too long to eat my fries, that kind of thing. I need a redemption meal at Arby's. So I've got to have it again. What sandwich did you have when you went?

I'm not even sure. I remember what sandwich I had. But you said that you saw they have a variety of sandwiches. Today when I door dashed Arby's here and told Reed, I said, Reed, there's Arby's outside. Can you go grab it? Reed came in with like two fingers, like holding it up like this. He put a second mask on. Just disgusted.

Arby's has put me through enough this week and I have to go grab some Arby's. Anyways, update on Arby's is that my little brother, Howie, who I've told you guys about Howie, like some of his takes, he's a brilliant cat, but, you know, for a long time he said Tom Brady was a system quarterback because his girlfriend in high school thought he was hot, and so I think he coped with that for the better part of a decade by just sticking to his guns. Tom Brady's assistant quarterback.

He has a take today that I think is worthy of bringing it into the pod, bringing it to the listeners. He texted me before the show and he said, I need you to take a closer look at what Arby's has going on. I said, what do you mean by that? He says the second largest sandwich chain

behind Subway. I said, okay, that's surprising. He says, is that all? So yeah, it's just surprising to me. I didn't think Arby's was that popular. He goes, you never see anybody at an Arby's. You rarely see Arby's.

He thinks is a front, dude. He thinks it's a front. He thinks it's a front. And it kind of, you know what? It's a major heel turn for me, especially because I was just fucking flirting with Arby's last night. On social media. Did you see that?

Meg almost shut down my account. Arby's just trying to fuck me. Yeah, they were into it. They were responding to you and the Greenlight Twitter. They DM'd Greenlight. Arvies is horny. Horny alert Arvys. Arvys was coming on to me strong and I wasn't mad at it.

I was not mad at it. But now that I'm not positive if it's all clean money, I don't know, man. Think about that. a guest second largest chain behind Subway? The only time I see it is on TV when the H. John Benjamin

commercials come on and he says Arby's, we have the meats for sandwiches. I think it's hilarious because originally they didn't say for sandwiches. It was just we have the meats. No, you're right. You're right. I just

until you said that, I forgot about their marketing. They're literally they're one of those industries. Arby's is, I don't know, think about it, what doesn't even need to buy ad space? Toilet paper.

Trash cans. Trash cans. Toilets. Toilets. Toilet brushes. Anything with plumbing or garbage. I don't see many light fixtures. How many light bulb commercials you see?

Not many. It's just Arbys and light bulbs and toilet paper. They could literally just go about their businesses and make a fuck ton of money. How does Arby's fit? You know what I mean? I'm just saying, how he's just saying. Lots of drive-through.

You know what I think there's lots of drive-through. I think we might be on to something, but I think we might be on to something with a segment too. I'm going to pitch to my brother. It's how he's just saying. I think this is good. How he is just saying that you might want to be careful accepting favors from Arby's.

Arby sent us some gear? Getting some gear, getting some swag for Arby's. Thank you, Arby. No, don't accept it. Do you really want to owe somebody like Arby's? Yeah, I guess you're right. Well, it's a treat because we blew them up on Twitter.

Yeah, but they don't see it that way. Now we owe Arby's. And to Howie's point, they are everywhere. They're laundering money with Rose beef. And curly fries. Don't forget the curly fries.

By the way, now I feel kind of weird because I called this guy's mom a mobster, but this dude last night was thanking me for defending Arby's curly fries because his mom, I'll read you the tweet. This is from Levi Damien,

who's a Raiders Wire guy. He said, my mom just retired after 35 years running the shipping department for the company that patented and manufactured Arby's bretted curly fries. And they are amazing. Bad mouthing nose fries is fighting words. Levi, I agree, and I just wanted to thank Levi Damien's mom for her service. 35 years of engineering deliciousness.

I don't care if she's got mob ties. I want to thank her. We will not accept any memorabilia, though. by the way where I was trying to go with this is there's other roast beef in the picture okay lion's choice

was tweeting at your boy how about that threesome I get a threesome out of this I mean these two were all over me I had like big roast beef like big roast beef was in my DMs nonstop

I can't, like, Lions Choice is, is everybody was tweeting me as like, if you like Arby's, you will love Lions Choice. Like this is like a gourmet. I guess it's like a step up, I guess, you know. Um, but it's not, it's not fast food. It's not a real restaurant. Well, I don't want to offend Lion's Choice. I'm gonna keep my options open.

It's a St. Louis thing, but it's also, I think, regional. Everybody was like, on my ass about it unanimously. You gotta go to this place. I drove by one on Eager Road in St. Louis. for the better part of, you know, almost 10 years. And I kept just driving by it wondering how it tasted because it was too close to Home Depot. I was just like, there's no way there's a, fuck,

it was in the parking lot of Home Depot. What, like it's, it was on Home Depot Boulevard, whatever. You, I just refused to believe I can get good grub in the parking lot of Home Depot. so I pigeonholed it and I'm sorry. Listen, I'm cool with having a side roast beef restaurant. You know, I have side teams. Side roast beef restaurant, if I come to St. Louis, I'm going to check it out.

Arby's, you can't be mad at me. And I love St. Louis people. I think they're right on this one from what it sounds like, but y'all do hype up some food sometimes, right? St. Louis-style pizza. Have you ever had St. Louis style pizza? It's called Emo's? Never heard of it until you just said it.

And I'm sorry. I think they already know this, but I don't like Emo's pizza. Like a lot of people, you either love it or hate it, and everybody from St. Louis kind of loves it. They make it with Prevelle cheese. It's almost something that I'm ready to write it off as that's what they do in their culture. You know what I mean? Like, I need to respect St. Louis's culture.

And I love St. Louis, bro. But they did get, they got crushed. Remember last summer or like a summer or two ago? Somebody cut up the bagels a bunch and they were like, these are St. Louis style bagels. Some dude was, and he got memed for like three months straight. I tried to look him up.

Alex Krautman, my guy, he deactivated his account. I would have kept my account and been the St. Louis style bagel guy. They were doing these memes, bro. They was so fucking funny. Okay, it started with a dude taking a picture, of bagels cut up.

Today I introduced my coworkers to the St. Louis secret, bagels bread sliced. It was a hit. So people, you got this one guy. People started posting pictures like, nothing reminds me of more of the summer than a St. Louis style hot dog. This dude just mashed a fucking hot dog

perpendicularly through the side of a hot dog bun, of one bun divide. Catch up all over the table. mustard all over the table and what looks like a paper plate. His dude's drinking coffee out of a napkin that he dipped in a coffee this is a grown-up.

I love how this shit will bring out. Memes are like, I don't know, would you consider this doing memes? Yeah, this is. This is meme. Memes in Twitter form. Memes are adults' toys. You know what I mean?

Like, this is, this guy probably has a Nick Roman is his name. This thing's fucking hilarious. March 27, 2019, things were simpler when we were doing these memes. Enjoying St. Louis-style coffee. This guy probably has a good-paying job,

like, competent individual, an adult, clearly. He's sucking coffee out of a coffee mug in a public place. Yeah, it looks like a public place. I'd like to know with the people who saw that happen, But he did it for the memes.

Right. Adult toys, man. They bring us joy. Made St. Louis style cereal for breakfast this morning. These dudes, they're just, you got a bowl crushing a pile of cereal on a table with milk underneath it. St. Louis, PBJ, it's just a fucking a guy. He's holding, the guy's holding, oh, my God, dude. it's an inside out

PBJ which means he has jelly and he put them together he put the two dry ends of the bread together so he's holding the peanut butter and jelly on his hands

it's on the outside Colgate on bread St. Louis style just put some fucking toothpaste on a piece of bread St. Louis style strawberry milk is ketchup

there's no strawberries It's ketchup. It's ketchup. Guy pouring ketchup and some milk. Oh, I love it when they do it in parentheses. It's a pizza in parentheses, St. Louis style. It's a fucking slice of pizza in a boiling pot of water. Amazing.

So, yeah, dude, I love St. Louis, but we had that coming after that, uh, after that bread post. I think most St. Louisans had fun with that thing. Now, I will say the only bad thing I'll say about St. Louis-style pizza. That and there's no such thing as fall or spring. It goes straight from winter to summer. And then you're going to do it again the next year. All right, mailbag.

I love the questions. Keep them coming. You guys are crushing it. Let me make sure none came in late. It's funny. I actually got a number of entries on stocks. So it was almost like nobody had anything else to talk about today. I'll just say this.

Because I'm going to try something for a change. And that is not talking out of my ass about a subject that I have no idea about. You know, sometimes we have to do it in this business, sports media. podcasting. I'm just not going to do it. I've seen all the, I've, I think I have a good idea of what's going on. I really do think I do. Reed, we talked about it for a little while. I've got probably an above average if average is above average understanding right on the line. Read really understand. You know, I didn't really know much going into today. You wouldn't think so when I just talked to you. You were like Warren Buffett with all the information. And that's just,

I'm incredibly impressed. Listen, there was a... This one video is unbelievable. It's... I've got to find this video. I mean, the Avalon Penrose video is hilarious. hilarious. That went viral.

It's a girl in her car. Basically sounding exactly like I would sound if I was trying to explain this to somebody a day or two ago. She's hilarious. But this Rachel Benetta video. When I first saw it, I was like, she's really crying. She's upset about something.

She's a tremendous actor. It's pretty funny. Hey, guys, I just wanted to log on here and let you know that is really hard for me to say this, but I don't know anything about stocks. And I feel like I haven't even been able to go on Twitter in the last 24 hours. I don't know what anyone is talking about.

about. So like, maybe we can just go back to the Bernie memes. I miss everybody. So you just heard it. That sums it up for me. I don't know shit about this stuff. And if I do, I learned it today. And I don't consider that to be like something that I'm confident in speaking on for

well. But I do have an analogy that you could try on for size. I just saw finding Nemo recently with Waylon. There's a scene where somebody tells all the fish that are in the net, in the fishing net. Well, it was actually Nemo goes into the fishing net and tells all the fish to swim straight down. And eventually it breaks the fishing boat. I just was thinking about that scene because it feels like all the Redditor dudes who are just remarkable cats. I want no beef.

Like, you know what I mean? There's two people you don't want beef with. There's dudes with cauliflower ears. Generally, if you're looking to size somebody up in a bar when this whole thing opens up again, or if you live in Florida right now as we speak, probably at a bar right now if you live in Florida. And you see a dude with those puffy ears

that look like they're swollen up and that they're scarred over, like, that's, those guys know how to wrestle, okay? You're going to be squaring up like Kimbo slice and God rest of soul, and somebody's just going to be suplexing you, like some GSP shit. You're not going to know what happened. You're going to be embarrassed. Your arm's going to be broken. You might be asleep on the floor of the, of the Applebee's.

Like, just don't do it. If a dude is, I don't know who's drinking at Applebee's. Marchion Lynch is drinking at Applebee's Is that right? Yeah, did you see the video? He's making money to drink at Applebee's No, he's really was drinking at Applebee's I forgot about that

Matter of fact, he ate at Applebee's 12 times during the by week Oh yeah, this spot hot Hey I love the ambiance I love the decor I spend a lot of time trying to figure out Which one I like more

The ambiance or the day court I respect that boss. I respect that boss, man. Shout out to 24. I got the bobblehead back here. You know what? When this thing opens up, the first place I'm getting fucked up

is Applebee's, just for Marshawn. I actually did used to hit the Ruby Tuesdays bar. You know the Ruby Tuesdays there on Barracks Road? I hit it once or twice. I promise you I'd get a beer to it,

Ruby Tuesdays. They had a great salad bar too. Great salad bar. Salad bar was tremendous. It was pretty dark in there, wouldn't it? You'd go there for the, yeah, it was a little bit, it was moody. You'd go there in the middle of day, get a Cobb salad that you sourced. And you'd leave, go home, come back in the evening, get fucked up at the bar.

They're like, welcome back. I can get a chance to ask, how was your salad? I will be, I think I might go back to, yeah, I'll make it Applebee's first time out. What were we talking about? Fighting people with cauliflower ears. that's one group of people that you should think twice about I'm not saying it can't happen listen Kyle Narcowitz

who's my guy shout out to Kyle Narcowitz he was a great wrestler at UVA one time he tried one of those fucking moves on me I slammed him I slammed him I had to slam me he was giving up a little bit of weight this was circa you know 07 so I was more like he-man back then but it can happen what I'm saying is don't fuck with cauliflower ear guys

but just dudes with the internet right dudes that are smart enough to use the internet to their advantage i don't want to fuck with them either you know like people with that mask the anonymous mask i'm good we got no problems i don't need you like in my web browser buying groceries or i don't know like hacking into my uh my laptop camera ugh i don't it just feels invasive i don't don't fuck with what i mean to say is don't fuck with guys who are proficient at the internet and at like hacking wall street bets don't fuck with like guys at wall street bets and shit like that life is too short yeah that's that's the analysis i've got for you it's it's a finding nemo situation except the fish we're making the net go down um in actuality the net's going back up uh but you get

picture. That's what I feel like happened. And then Robin Hood, something like, there's no slaughter rule for rich people. There's a slaughter rule, though, for people that are just trying to make a few dollars. It's just going to turn into Bama. And like, but you could just do 92 Dream Team against what was the first team they played? Probably like Cameroon or something. Yeah, something like that, where they were trying to get autographs of the US. Oh, you know what that? Because I remember it was in the last dance. Yeah, exactly. I mean, like, and the difference would be that these guys on Reddit are not asking for autographs. They're not a Wall Street Betts is not asking for autographs.

And yeah, it just reminds me of a, it could turn into a Bama game. They'll let it turn into a Bama score if the rich are up, right? That's what Robin Hood did today. And then on the other end of it. if UMBC you know if UMBC is like Robin Hood would have would have pulled all the players off the court about five minutes in the second half then they would have had the refs stop the game change the scoreboard exactly Robin hood would have been good that night hey quick update uh Macon will likely be back next week um he he he alerted me that his hiatus

is almost over. I was going to say if people want to take crack at it, you could send welcome back messages to Macon or you could or you could take guesses at where he's been. Those could be entertaining. If you want to leave a voicemail,

the number is 202-991-07-23. Give it a shot, man. You just float us a theory. Maybe a welcome home. But don't blow his head up too much. His lovely wife Kate told us he doesn't get off his phone after he's got a big, a big social out.

All right. So two people have asked me about fucking 90s boy bands. What is going on today? Is it like an anniversary or something? Somebody said 90s boy bands, Insync versus Backstreet Boys. And then somebody said, how did Insync never get a Grammy? I just want to say this. I probably know less about this shit than anybody on the planet

I know Justin Timberlake was in in sync right no it's good there's two dudes that don't know let's just fucking do it let's flesh us out you got the internet back there I'll be I'll be the the dumbass in sync in sync okay yeah in sync I was right backstreet boys has song larger than life yeah I you're talking to their yeah I guess so well I Hey, internet.

Nick Carter, backstreet boys, yeah? Yes, that sounds right. God, maybe I know more. What was his brother? Aaron Carter. Maybe I know more than I thought. Hey, how about I also know Hanson? Remember Hanson?

No. You don't, well, that was before your time. Hansen was these three guys that when we were like 12, you know, we weren't getting any ass back then, but everybody was like if there was asked to be gotten Hansen is getting it all. These guys, they looked about my age, but they were just doing, they were doing sex. Hansen was doing sex left and right. They might have done the most sex out of any of them.

That's a good question. Who did the most sex out of the boy bands? You can have that question. I don't need to know the answer on that one. Well, this was all before you were born, Reed. But I'm looking back and I'm saying, you know, 98 degrees was Nick Lachet, right?

Nick Lachet, Cincinnati Bengals fan. Actually, really cool guy. I met him once at a, I was at a football game, and he was in a suite. He was super cool.

Never would have thought. You know what, though? I met Justin Timberlake once, too. It was kind of quick. It was, you know, it was like a,

but he was pretty cool too. It's, I'm not saying boy band people are bad, but as a 12-year-old, I, to hear any boy band shit because they were having all the sex. You know what I mean? It was almost like being a hater.

Right. You know, it's like sometimes you catch yourself bobbing your head to it's like, cut that shit out. These guys are the enemy. Yeah, dude, I don't know. I could do a whole pod on, let's save this pod. We've answered this question. You guys tell me who you want me to do an entire 90 minute pod on boy bands with.

you tell me i'll get them on here we'll do it we'll do it because this is intriguing to me don't know why uh this is cathartic actually a little bit every bird attack or every dog attack like basically this from connor gillmore would you rather have every bird attack you essentially dive bomb you or, you know, every dog that you see out of the park go kujo on you. All right, so here's the question. What would Cowboy Reed do? I don't know. I like dogs a lot, so maybe I could try to get the dogs to like me.

It's outside the scope of the question. Hey, Reed, I see where you're coming from, but I'm strictly thinking about my survival. Yeah. I like dogs too, and, man, it would be a shame if I didn't get to pet them ever get him. life, but I would much rather not have to worry about an Alfred Hitchcock

scenario every time I go outside. Yeah, I agree. You know what I mean? So, and honestly, if I'm being real, I'm afraid of birds. They are kind of sketchy. Unpredictable. You don't really know what they're doing. Unpredictable. They're the cats of the sky. Yeah.

They're the cats of the sky, and I am not into it. And like, honestly, I don't know if one dive bomb me when I was a kid but like at the beach seagulls stuff like that I got buddies who used to like spring break used to throw

bread at me or like chase me with bread you know what I mean and then all these fuckers would be like mine mine which is a Madagascar or no it's Nemo Pixar on the brain

I um yeah dude like birds get the shit out of me Seagulls, they're the worst. Don't see Lighthouse if you do with Wom Defoe, which is a terrifying movie. It's got the other guy, speaking of boy bands, cousins of boy bands are vampire movie guys. They're the adult boy bands, right?

Yeah, and his name is... Robert Patterson. He's actually a tremendous actor. I hate to even, like, you know, make him the vampire movie guy, but, you know, that's what I think of. And I turn on this flick on the plane. It's all black and white. It's really a dark movie.

It's about two dudes on a lighthouse, so you figure it out. They were basically getting Patriots weather without the professional athlete salaries, and they were just isolated, and they were on a fucking rock, and Wilm Defoe is nuts, and the movie ends, and it involves Siegel's, and spoiler alert.

I don't know. It's disgusting. For those of you have seen it, it's just... It's just birds, man. Fuck birds. And, okay, to be fair, If you pick dogs, you get the winter off with birds. So you could go outside a lot in the winter, right?

But I think to me, the easy answer is no birds dive bombing me. And you see dogs coming, right? Yeah, oh yeah. Dogs are not sneak attack. Not many. Yeah, fuck that. All right, so that should do it, guys. Check back in a couple days.

We might be Monday morning. We might be Monday afternoon. But there will be a pod Monday. I'll see you then.