Green Light with Chris Long - Ryen Russillo! Aaron Rodgers to the Jets, NFL Free Agency, NBA Round-Up & Mailbag

Episode Date: March 15, 2023

(2:16) - NCAA Tournament Play-In Games, Ides of March Outstanding Debts, Best Road Tripping Songs & Our Love of Guy Clark! (25:15) - NFL Free Agency: Aaron Rodgers wants the Jets, Zeke Elliott out in Dallas, Landing Spots for Ekeler & Jamaal Williams, Eagles' DBs & Baker Mayfield to the Bucs (50:12) - Ryen Russillo on Bronny James' NBA Outlook, Luka Doncic vs Devin Booker, Life Advise for Chris, Mailbag & Is the NCAA Tournament the Best Time of the Year? Green Light Bracket Busters Challenge: Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b   Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42   Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1   Green Light with Chris Long:   Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We talk NBA, a little bit of college basketball, the best prospects in this year's tournament. And NFL free agency is still in full swing. We get the Aaron Rogers news during tape. You'll hear what Chris and Ryan think of the whole saga. We also have a little mailbag for you, you wonderful people send in some great questions for Ryan. And right before Ryan Chris goes through the top free agent deals, the biggest signings, who else is out there, all the latest happenings in this newest NFL league year. Y'all enjoy. Make sure you join our bracket busters challenge.

Link can be found on our Twitter page and in the show description. Follow along our Taddy Champs bet. And make sure you live stream with us tomorrow 1230 p.m. Eastern UVA versus Furman. We'll be hanging out all March Madness watching some games. You guys watch the playing games? No, it's funny. I was talking about that with some people the other night. Nobody cares about them. I do.

Oh, you're gambling on them. Well, no, I didn't actually. I watched the second one because I was like, man, you know, I don't want to be like a March Madness hipster. I got to really start knowing who Pittsburgh is. You know, if I'm going to fill them out in my bracket. And coming away from that game last night, I don't feel good about Pittsburgh and obviously Mississippi State didn't pull that thing out.

Did you see the shot that was missed? I watched the NIT game. The Ruckers get upset. But I didn't watch the playing games. That's sicko behavior. You watched the NIT? Yeah, it was cool. The number one team got upset.

That's right. Yeah. The last second shot. Yeah, it could have been UNC. You know, maybe it should have stayed home. I hate these playing games because it used to be like you'd have everybody there on Thursday and Friday. And now it's like, if Nevada loses tonight, it's like, did they ever make the tournament? But there's two things that always occur with the playing game.

It's like a reminder to, A, fill out your bracket. Right. Right. It's really great that you don't have to include the playing games because nobody would fill out their brackets. Yeah. Nobody would get him in in time. Exactly. Okay, number two, you know, you figure out all over again what channel True TV is.

Yeah. Like, True TV hibernates the whole year and then just explodes this week. I love the. Like, I write True TV channel 246, like on my hand in marker. Yeah. And, like, you know, a permanent marker, like a Sharpie. And then I'll put like, you know, CBS and the other channels too. And then I got the guide for the weekend.

True TV is, is impractical jokers. in NCAA tournament. Yeah, pretty much, right? And a lot of people will pick upsets where the playing team will win in the next round, but they don't even know which team it's going to be. Exactly, exactly. That's why I watched the playing game.

So I know how busted my bracket is. Yeah, there's a reason Pitt was projected to finish 11th in the ACC. Man, they get these twins, though. They're like seven feet tall. Yeah, they're good. So Mississippi State has a chance. There were 21 lead changes in this game.

They were almost 22. At the buzzer, the cat from Mississippi State got a wide open look in the corner. When I say wide open, like too open. Like he was too open. And not enough in the corner. You know, corner threes are tricky as a guy who's really got a nice stroke from downtown. You want to be in the corner. You don't want to be three feet off the corner.

No, you have to be exactly lined up. He wasn't in the corner. You got to always remember to be in the corner. Anyways, that's just my analysis of the playing game. It's a good start to the tournament. Two close games. Let's hope it keeps going. Yeah, I thought you were going to say good start to the pod.

Okay, so Ryan Rissillo's on today, and it's always good when Ryan comes on. We're going to talk a little NBA and a lot of mailbag, a little life advise, which is a segment that we do here. So he will be on in a couple minutes. Obviously, we have some NFL news as free agency just continues to roll on, and I've got to have a take on every single player that crosses my timeline, all 300 of them that got new deals. I mean, people are getting paid $20 million, and I'm like, whoa, it's good to play in the NFL now. And I know they felt the same way about us.

We'll talk about the NFL in a couple minutes. It is the Ides of March, which I was reminded today. and I watched the whole Ryan Gossack. It's a really good movie. Is George Clooney in that? George Clooney is in a lot of suit and tie movies. It's hard to keep track. Like Michael Clayton is one of the best of all time.

Great film. But, you know, sometimes you can mix them up. I'd of March, I managed to watch the whole movie and didn't know what the odds of March really are, and that's where you come for what you're owed. Yeah, March 15th. It was the date that Caesar was assassinated, and it was traditionally the date in Rome

where debts were settled. Yeah, so a couple of debts that need to be settled here. Jeff Schwartz still owes me $500 from the second or third Cincinnati win against Kansas City two years ago. It was the regular season one. I wouldn't have bet on, I think I had the points too. Kyle was on the Chiefs. I didn't bet against the Chiefs.

I think I took the points. But anyways, Jeff, you know, hasn't been on a while. I can't have guys on that owe me like three figures. okay you never really hear that described three figures three figures oh I fucking count mine so also the Iron Sheik

yeah what does he owe you he owes me a pair of like wrestling underwear there was a time where he was doing this crowd sourcing funding thing and where he was really starting to push the content

and monetize the content like maybe five seven years ago now and there was a certain level of donation that you would get some of his like rasslin underwear and i met that criteria and i never saw the rassland underwear unforgivable yeah so i don't want to put him in the camel clutch break his fucking back but um yeah he owes me some rassling underwear i get you there's a number of people that owe me things but i don't keep track i used to have a notes app in my phone in the notes app I had two notes.

One was favors owed and favors that I've done. You know? And the favors that I've done, I lost track. And it's not healthy to hang on to that. Really, it's not. It's not. You know? For sure.

And the way I think about favors, if I do somebody a favor, I got this special technique where somebody comes, ask me for money for some reason. I got a few former friends like this. They're like, yo, I need some money. And I'll pay it back. I notice the word former. Well, yeah. I mean, because of this mechanism where I go, okay, like, this is the cost of losing somebody that I'm probably not friends with.

Yeah. You know, if somebody's going to borrow money and then ghost you, like I've had a few people do that. Just tell me you can't get me the money. But actually, this makes it easier because it's like buying out of a franchise. It's a buyout. It's like a salary dump. You know? Yeah.

Then that person can't ask me for any more money. You see it? Yeah, it's like a one-time fee. Yeah. That's the way I look at favors now. Now I deleted that notes out. Yeah. There's a couple other debts I'd like to see settled.

Oh, you'd like to settle some debts. Yeah, not necessarily personal, but like the Oscars, they owe Tom Cruise a statue. Oh, he hasn't. He doesn't have a best actor award. No, he's been nominated three times. You got to be fucking kidding me. Never won. One of the greatest American actors of all time.

That's wild. He's Jim Kelly. Yeah, I didn't think of that. Tom Cruise is Jim Kelly. That's crazy. But we all love Jim Kelly. We love Tom Cruise. Yeah.

Not Tom Cruise. you're saying Tom Cruz I'm saying Tom Cruise I thought you said meant Tom Hanks No But I said Tom Hanks Tom Hanks has some Oscars And maybe should have a few less

Tom Cruise doesn't have statue Because he's doing all these meathead movies Yeah he kind of does the same role You know And every single one across He does his run And he does Run, repel

Yeah I'm the hero He does his own stunts No it's great But the Oscars are kind of above that They're like Yeah Problem

You know You got a man You have to act like you're doing this stunt, not like you're actually doing the stunt. Yeah. Yeah, you got to act like you're doing the stunt. Yeah. Another debt that needs to be settled. You and Makes got to figure out when you're going to pay this Waffle House off.

When? When are we going? I'd love to go. I'm down any time. My schedule's not as packed. No, your schedule is my schedule, buddy. So you tell me, I would love to get to the Waffle House soon. It's been on my mind.

And I cannot wait to go with my dear friend Macon. Nice. who I should mention I owe a T-shirt from our yearly NBA bet. I have not forgotten. Yeah, that's good. He also never paid me for the room when we went to the ACC tournament in Manhattan in, like, 2018. Oh, we should put him on the spot next pod and see if he'll pay up. I'm almost positive, but he'll definitely gaslight me.

So, all right. You guys might remember Taylor, who used to work here, still owes me $60. and a date with that blow-up doll. Well, he did go get the date with a blow-up doll. You missed the date with the ball. That's right. He forced the date. That's right.

I forgot about that. That was a date, dude. That was a date. He was in the 40-40 club with a fucking inflatable sex doll. It had like a mouth that was very clearly not for talking. You know, it was embarrassing. I think that suffices. Odds of March.

We got some housekeeping. That was kind of housekeeping. Number one. Travis Betts, you are the lucky occupier of our last square in our Taddy Champs competition, which of course is a drawing of a lottery. He's got the right name for it because this is a really sketchy bet for him. You pull a lottery ball for each person. You pull two of them, actually.

You pull two balls. and the first ball is for a team that if they win, you're going to win $2,000. If you lose on the second draw, if that team wins the national championship, you're going to have to get a tattoo of said team. I want to remind everybody that I am like one of the most stressed out people in the country this spring.

Coach K's coming for you. Yeah, he's coming. Well, Coach Shire is coming for me. You do Coach Shire? I could do Grant Hill. You could do Great Hill? Yeah, yeah. Because I drew Duke, so I'm sweating my ass off.

Now, I'm not going to win $2,000 either. I forgot who my money team is, is some dog shit team. It's Kentucky. Yeah, they're good. They're okay. Yeah. I don't think you'd be winning the money, but hopefully we can pair a tattoo with Travis's giraffe tattoo. You know, Meg was filling out her bracket last night and asking me questions about it,

even though I don't know shit about college basketball. and it was pretty funny to see the way, you know, somebody's brain works. Well, I guess I know how my brain works when I'm filling out of bracketing. I know nothing, but it was like, Orwell Roberts, hmm, and I thought she was going to pick an upset. And all she said was I always laugh out loud about that. Who doesn't? Well, yeah, and then I showed her the clip. She didn't really get it.

Iona, Iona, never heard of them. Do they even have TVs in Iona? Where is that? They got Rick Petino. Hold on, let me guess. Oklahoma was her guess. New York? They have Rick Petino?

Iona. Iona. Apology. It doesn't even make sense. But this is verbatim what she says is she's filling out her bracket. And then, of course, she lost twice to Northwestern in lacrosse. So it was fuck Northwestern in all things. They're losing in the first round.

It's pretty funny to watch your wife fill out a bracket. And there's a 50. percent chance she will do better than you probably more than 50 she won our bracket one year right oh you you have you guys have a long family masculinity is a thin a thin veil you know and when it comes to march madness most guys that are filling out their brackets are not watching that much if any most people don't watch college basketball so you know some you know some you know a gal gets in you know and like my wife is in an all men's league it's like a bunch of high school buddies but there's like three wives in there, they always crush it.

Because we kind of suck, too. And the dudes want to show off. They'll predict a 14-3 upset so that they can show their knowledge of the game. Yeah. So maybe she can join our group challenge. Maybe. Greenlight, like group challenge. In ESPN, the link is in the show doc.

Everyone jump in. You might have a shot at winning some cash app money. Yeah, so be sure to include your cash tag in your bracket name. That'll do. That'll do. Put your cash tag as your bracket name that's perfect also we have a live stream coming up uh thursday i don't know when you're gonna hear this you might hear this wednesday night you might hear it thursday morning uh but you know we

we have a live stream 1240 we're gonna watch if you want to know how stressful it is for a virginia fan and you've you've seen some of our exploits like tune in i was i was just thinking like i'm kind of uncomfortable about my reactions actually being it'll be fine everybody's on the other side right you know because we're we're yeah we're yeah Yeah, we're no fun. We're giving out glass slippers, dude. Like a glass slipper factory. So check us out.

We might watch some more games too. Yeah, the West Virginia, Maryland game is on the same time. So we'll be cheering for West Virginia. That might be underway when Virginia starts. So I got to get all my bets in. That one starts at 1215. So set your alarm for 1210. Yep.

So the one, we're going to do mailbag with Riscilla, but the one that I thought you guys might be good at because I'm having a hard time defining what this is, but this is from E. Budacacac. And this guy wants to know top five road trip songs. I've heard this before, and I think it means a song where the windows down and the wind's blowing.

Easy lyric. Well, not easy lyrics, but you know the lyrics. You can rip the lyrics on to them. Air guitar. Here's a guess for you. Take it easy is on your list. I would venture that that's probably up there. I mean, for sure it is.

No doubt. And I'll even admit that take it easy is a good road trip. It's a wonderful road trip. And it's a double entendre because it's a good vibe for a road trip, and it's about a fucking road trip. Here are some songs that are good and about road trips or being on the road. Albuquerque by Neil Young, literally about he just wants to, he's in Vegas, I guess, or probably somewhere even seetier, like he's Reno or.

or something and he wants to he needs some money to drive to albuquerque and he's going to roll a number and i don't know what's in albuquerque fresh start but like that's a good song amarillo by morning george straight i mean it's very clearly he's trying to get to amarillo by the morning i assume probably on horseback coming up from san antonne a lot of horses doesn't have much baggage he's like jason kelsey why do all country singers say san antonne i've noticed that yeah it's yeah it's yeah it's It's almost like if you say San Antonio, they know you're a fraud. So, Take It Easy is on the list. 24 hours at a time, the Marshall Tucker jam that I've been on the last two years.

It's just, it's, the guys got the pedal to the floor. Traveled through California, listen to that song. He's got to get to the Arkansas line. Yep. So Prisoner of the highway, Ronnie Millsap, 18 Wheeler, Roll on 18 Wheeler, which is a road trip that didn't go so well. I think that's a song that's been sung in Green, in Studio J the most. You know what? You might be right.

What if that song is actually not like the subject of the song, never had, never jackknifed his truck. He just got caught up with a lot lizard and had to make some shit up. And his kids are all, you know, they're all singing by the phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But in reality, that guys probably hold up with a lot lizard doing some ice. Yeah. You know?

Yeah. If you think about it. In Albuquerque. That'd be a whole other segment on songs that aren't what they seem. That's a good one. You know? We'll do that another day. Me and Paul, Willie Nelson.

Nice. It's a great song. It's been rough and rocky traveling. They're just traveling. City to city. Paul, it's his fucking friend. I think it's his band manager or something. Anyways, Midnight Rider.

Beautiful. Passenger, because I don't want to drive. I don't want to fucking drive. Nice. And it kind of works with the vibe, too. And then Roadhouse Blues is great for driving. So those are all about road trips. I throw a traveler on there, Chris Stapleton.

Yes, for sure. That's a great one. It's a great one. Throw going to California, Led Zeppelin. That's a good one. What if you're not going to California? We're leaving California. Well, it's trip-specific, I guess.

If you're going to Carolina, how about Carolina in my mind? That's good. I also like Tracy Chapman fast car. That's so good. You know what else I like? Speaking of just very literal stuff, you know, I like, Like a Rock by Bob Seeger and I like Eminence Front because they were both in car commercials. Yep.

And Eminence Front just makes me want to get on the road and drive a GMC. I don't even like GMCs, but I'll drive one. I'm like, Pablo's dog. I hear Eminence Front and I'm like, where's a Denali? They littered my childhood, those Bob Seeger ads. Oh, Bob Seeger. Oh, I love them. Big influence on the Eagles, actually.

Glenn Frey got his start as a backup guy for Rob Seeger in Detroit. Speaking of Joe Walsh, life's been good to me so far. That's a good one for the road. Those rifling those lyrics, because those are some fun lyrics to sing. Yeah, it's a fun time. Give me Here I Go Again by White Snake. Oh, yeah. Love it.

Uh-huh. That's a good one. Willing by Linda Ronstadt. That's a great cover. The deeper cut. Yeah. Having, low, slow. Only boys.

It's a fun little guitar guitar riff. You'd recognize it. It's fun. Road to nowhere, the green sky cover. Okay. Now we're getting 301.

Yeah, yeah. And I throw Freebird on there. Freebird for sure. My kids love Freebird. They request Freebird every time we're in the car. And what Freebird means is you don't have to worry about shit else for seven minutes.

Right. You just, hey, you buy seven minutes of time. they love Freebird. I've thrown, give me three steps, speaking about Leonard Skinner. I think give me three steps. It's a great road trip song. One Way Out, live at the fucking Philmore. And then Bloody Merry Morning, it's just, you know, he's getting on a plane and he's getting a drink.

I don't mean get on the road and get a drink, but it just feels good. Right. If you're going to do a plane one, I'll do a train. How about midnight train to Georgia? Oh, that's a good one. A good one. Planes, trains, automobiles. So, yeah, write us and tell us what your favorite road trip songs are.

Are you going to pick one of those as Layup Line today? Layup Line. Geez. No, what I'm going to do for Layup Line is I'm going to give you some Guy Clark. Nice. Because I'm obsessed with Guy Clark right now. I meant to ask you that the other day. I saw your tweet.

I'm obsessed with Guy Clark. Yeah. Wonderful. So the fifth highwayman. You know what? I forgot this one. How about L.A. Freeway? Leave the key.

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I'm going to catch you up real quick, and then we will get to, what do people say, do you have a list up of best road trip songs or what was that you were looking at some songs i was looking at guy clark's discography oh he's got a fucking got some bangers in that stack i assume if you get a third dog it'll be named guy no no uh probably not should be ironic guy yeah because it's not a guy that's very good uh that's really really good uh so NFL obviously the rogers thing i mean we're about talk about it with rsillo because we just rap taping that.

You know, McAfee was on the monitor here as I was going on with Ryan. And again, man, like, this is what as a football fan I want to see happen. I want to see Rogers somewhere else. I love the shakeup. You know, like whether or not I think all his gripes are reasonable or legit, like, all right, it's fun to see him go prove it. And I do think he's going to be surrounded by some really nice talent. You get Breece Hallback.

You've got Garrett Wilson. Elijah Moore is somebody that would be interesting to see what happens with him. Lizard, security blanket, probably more to follow for them. I don't know what their cap situation is after this because the compensation is getting held up by Green Bay or whatever. But you've got to figure Rogers being there yields more free agents. He also has a more dynamic tight end in CJ Uzama. Yes, for sure. You know, that he's had in the past.

That's not a, that's not insignificant. So, and I think Lazard being there, you know, we're going to talk about it with Ryan, but like he can block. And this is a Nathaniel Hackett system, outside zone. You know, this is a McVeigh tree kind of thing. And so when you think about like the value of Lazard, it's not just in the passing game, you know, guys that have been successful in that system, you know, guys like Cooper Cup, guys like Robert Woods, they can block, then catch the football.

Lazzard, security blanket, really good scheme fit. so excited about that. And then, you know, people were making a big deal about the Edmonds and Edwards packaging, plus the two and the five. The hall for Roquan Smith, that's everything it yielded. And people were debating, I don't know if it's much of a debate, like, what would you rather have? Unquestionably, Roquan Smith's better than any of those players. But when you add up all those pieces at a non-premium position, like linebacker,

you've got Edmonds, Edwards, a two and a five on one end of the deal on one side of the scale and then on the other side you've got Roquan Smith they both cost $20 million a year. So you know like as much I love Roquan Smith and I hate like saying

you know a team got the better of but Ryan Poles and Ian Yates Cunninghammer cooking man and so you know another thing is I think it's is it Orlando Brown is signing with the but they're having a back and forth about his designation, left tackle, right tackle. Yeah, he's been linked to the to the bears, but nothing like official. Yeah.

But yeah, trying to figure out which side he's a left tackle. I mean, what are we doing? Right. You know, this is very, it's kind of ridiculous to me. And, you know, I'm not saying he's the best left tackle in the league, but he's the left tackle. That's what he's played. I mean, you know, he's played right tackle, but he's been playing the team he just came

from. he played left tackle on the Super Bowl. So you like the Bears' moves overall this offseason because they've clearly been like the most active team. I don't want them to overspend on the O-line but you have to you have to bolster that group.

You know, you have to protect your investment in that quarterback. Because you saw a couple times last year he got knocked out of games. Yes. Right? And they,

maybe it's too early to tell but they drafted a tackle last year at Oklahoma State and he hasn't hit. So, if Orlando Brown can come through and aside and they put them in the race. They've had bad luck at tackle historically. They have. I feel like, you know, they've been played by bad tackle play.

It's true. So anyways. I also saw today they signed a running back Travis Homer, Homer out of Seattle. I was hoping that they might be the team to trade for Austin Echler. Yeah, that would be a great fit. And Echler, you know, who might join us next week, hopefully. we'll see where he lands if he gets traded I know he's given he's been given the

permission to seek a trade I would like to see Buffalo yeah you know think about the way they've struck out a little bit on trying to throw you know different answers at this hey we need a pass catching back and this guy's like the premier past catching back him out of the back field statistically like one of the best all time best all time one of the best all time

So, you know, I think giving Josh Allen that safety valve that's not only safe, but productive, is scary. Yeah, I see it in my head pictures. And the bills are like top of the list for me as far as the team that hasn't won a Super Bowl in recent years ever. They should go all in. I would love to see them win a Super Bowl. And you saw Stefan Diggs so frustrated last year. He's like, we're doing all these things. Why can't we get over the hump?

Maybe this gets him there. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, here we are sheffing up a trade that hasn't happened, but I would love to see that. All right, and I don't know if they have the Capitol or what, or this is me talking as Joe fan. The Cowboys made some good moves. I mean, bringing Wilson back, Gilmore,

who's still playing well, dude, and plays man really well. So you could see the Cowboys playing more man next year, and Dan Quinn, hell of a coordinator, utmost respect, he'll get the most of that secondary. in indie they're clearing space. I mean, like, you know, it's not, you know, it's not, yeah, it's not like a quarterback size. Yeah, you're giving me the wind horse.

The wind horse right now. But it is a funny time to clear space a little bit because I always feel like teams clear space when they're, when they're, you know, kind of just dumping some salary. They're ready to do it like when the, when the free agency period starts. Right. And the timing is ambiguous to me. So, you know, maybe it was just the ability to get that deal done. It was held up until this moment.

But they are clearing space. What are they clearing space for? We'll find out. And you mentioned Dallas. They're releasing Zeke. Right. Seven years with Zeke is now over in Dallas. And it's interesting because they, you know, after they franchised Tony Pollard,

they had the most money tied up in running backs in NFL history. Yep. And now they're going with a guy who was more productive, more dynamic, better across the board, arguably, in just about every running, past catching, obviously past blocking. Yeah. Because Zeke's last play as a cowboy goes down as being kicked. Yeah, that was ugly. Yeah. But, you know, if you got a bunch of NFL Twitter people in a room and you want to rile them up and you only could say like one word, Zeeks out there. Oh, for sure.

And so, like, just to see this kind of come to a close, finally, this, I mean, he had a great run there, but, like, he is kind of, he's a prototypical running back in the arc of his career. And the guys who last longer and ascend and get better or stay the same, like, are, there's fewer. And, you know, like seven years, but it feels like a decade. Such a physical style of running, too. And he's so physical. So, you know, like, be interesting to see where he ends up. It's going to be weird seeing him in another uniform for sure, like super weird. That guy has seen him on TV probably as much as anybody.

With the star. With the star on his helmet. But it's got a lot of respect for the player, man. And, you know, to use Bill Parcell's terms of the player. But, yeah, we'll see what happens there. I think those moves on defense are good. Speaking of who Indy might be clearing space for, like, the Lamar thing has gotten kind of wild with, you know, Schaefter,

Shefter's been taking some damage. Sheffter is taking damage, dude. And here's the thing about Adam Schefter. He's Teflon. Like he's survived the JPP thing. The Dwayne Haskins tweet. You know, he gets called out by players all the time, but he's just so powerful.

Like it's, you know, it's amazing that he'll still be just doing this no matter what. Right. What premier player calls him a fraud. Well, look, today, SportsCenter tweeted out a tweet of Adam Schaefter saying Aaron Rogers says he wants to play for the gym. which Adam Schaefter got by watching the Pat McAfee show. He was just sitting there.

And then he said, lose my number. Nice try, though. That was the text. I don't think Schaefter knows how to lose somebody's number. No, no, no. That's going to be tough for him to hit delete. Yeah, yeah. He's got like six or seven, you know, backups.

He's still going to have that number in like 2046. So anyways, Schaefter, you know, had a, you know, there was a report out that Lamar turned down a contract. with a certain amount of guarantees and so on and so forth, like a three-year deal. He said that it was a $200 million guarantee deal. Lamar said it was 133, I believe. And his response of what I need an agent,

you know, like, you know, I think Lamar's usage of his platform to set the record straight is good. You know, if that's the case, that's what players should be doing. We, you know, like, we have the same amount of power as Adam Schaefter has. I mean, he has more, like, tactically,

but as far as, like, public-facing, you know, Lamar Jackson sends out a tweet, and most people are going to believe Lamar Jackson over Adam Schaefter, you know. Anyways. That is interesting about the Colts clearing space because there's one of two options, basically, either you get somebody who's really expensive

to use that space that you could win with, as in Lamar, or you're just thanking. Yeah, I don't know what they're doing yet. They're a really interesting one. So, you know, another move was the Darren Waller trade, which was a big deal, man. This is a premier player. He was hurt last year.

The Raiders didn't even see him play. Like McDaniels didn't even see him play. And paid him anyways. Then he comes back. And then they trade him this offseason. And it looks like a salary move, which to me signals, at least on some level that they might think Jimmy G is a bridge, right?

Because why bring in Jimmy G. If you're serious about winning right now and dump one of his best options, but this is a big deal for Daniel Jones a play action game just got a lot better I mean they played Bellinger last year was their guy

he was a mid-round pick this is the start of bolstering the weaponry that Daniel Jones has and I hope we see more of it I think it's going to be fun to see him in New York too like it's a big market

he's going to be away from Kelsey Plum which is that's the worst part of the trade they broke up the Vegas power couple but it's like you know I think most people like how could they do that? Like most like comment people. Yeah.

But if you really think about it, it's just. They'll trade anybody. Families are living apart all the time in the NFL. And, you know, I think she's going to be busy. Yeah. You know? Yeah, they're going to go back to back. Who's the New York Liberty?

Like maybe they could work a trade out. You know? That's some cute shit. You know them getting married? They seem like good people. Absolutely. You know, and then the Raiders want to go and just fuck this whole thing up. She's not leaving Vegas, though.

They got a super team. Yeah. Okay. They're really good. Okay. And then, um, dream, and that was a three. I mean, you know, and a threes, fuck, you hope to draft half a player that Darren Waller is right out the gate with a three.

And we talked about how Daniel Jones's deal is a little bit more accelerated, you know, as far as like the timetable that we're looking at here and evaluating him in a couple years. So like get, get winning. right now. Although it's tough to build your your passing offense through a tight end. Well, we've seen that with Lamar. Exactly. So it'll be interesting to see in the draft

if they add, like, if they look at receiver with their first pick. I think they will. I think they'll look hard at it, but you know, running quarterback in Daniel Jones, I don't mean that pejoratively. I just mean he can run and that's part of their offense is the quarterback run game, you know, having that tight end

who's pretty dominant and you see like the Ravens have had the right idea, but they haven't built outside as well. And I think part of the thing the Ravens always think is like, hey, we can pay for a position that's not as premium. We can have these total studs of tight end. Receivers cost too much. Yeah.

But you need them. So some of the defensive signings are like Eric Kendrick's to the Chargers. That'll be fun to see him down there. Arden Key in Tennessee. I think Arden Key is a really underrated player. Like real NFL heads, no. but he's a very underrated, productive player disruptive. In Seattle, Draymond Jones

arrives from Denver, and so I'm sorry about that, read, because he's a normal player. I like the guy. Yeah, they're taking our tackles two years in a row. They got Shelby Harris, and then they cut Shelby Harris to bring on to Dr. Yeah, maybe Shelby Harris can come on back.

Exactly. You know? That'd be cool. That would be great. By the way, saw Shelby Harris at the Super Bowl. You didn't get to meet him. No. He's the greatest dude ever.

and like we had a lot of talk about because I've watched his tape. He's watched mine and we just chopped it up about football for a long time. What felt like a long time in a nightclub, we were really footballing out up there. But Shelby Harris is a great player. Well, he's had a great career and I hope maybe you get that homecoming. Maybe he comes back to Denver, maybe he goes to the Eagles. Yeah.

And you can give him a little, you know, hey, this is what eagle life is like because they do need to replace our grave. They do. And I think Seattle is addressing. a real need for them. So Jaron Reid's also back in Seattle. What do you think of the Kyle Trask, Baker, Mayfield, quarterback competition? Fun, dude.

Fun. Very Tampa. Very pirate flag. You know, like, going to roll out a guy with a huge ass and a guy who may or may not be unfixable. But I actually, I actually. Baker had me biting the cheese a little bit last year with the Rams. He had everybody biting the cheese. You showed up in L.A.

On, uh, you know, with two days. Yeah, yeah. They might be going, uh, winless for Williams.

I think they, I think we're on, and that would suck so bad to have to watch Caleb Williams in Tampa. No, no offense to any like bucks fans, but there's bigger markets than Tampa and, uh, you know,

I don't know. Maybe they, maybe they're doing the thing. Maybe. It's hard to do the thing, but it can really pay off. And I'm not saying, go out there, there's a difference between going out there and throwing the game and taking

people out of the game. Like I got kind of pissed off at the Eagles about taking somebody out of the game, but in the Washington game a couple years ago, but I've matured. Also, it's different than taking a less aggressive approach the entire season. And fans have a hard time with that. When I said reset with the Rams, I've said this few times, fans did not like the language that I use but this is a business man you can wait a year well the reset idea has kind of ruined the NBA that's why I think it makes some people nervous when a third of the teams they are trying to lose I don't I think tanking is much harder in the NFL and it's dangerous sell tanking to players and you don't in fact sell tanking the players players sometimes don't even know your team's

tanking yeah there were times where I wasn't sure in St. Louis if we were doing it or not fucking anyways um okay y'all let's talk to Ryan and we will be back early next week. I'm going to be hung over for like four days. St. Patty's Day. Happy St. Patty's Day to everybody. It's P.A.D.D.Y. Pachvias. It's not two T's. And it's because we drove all the snakes out of Ireland. I think that's why. Allegedly. Yeah. So St. Patrick did. And I'm going to be hung over because there's a lot of basketball and a lot of Irish going on. Join the Greenlight group and try to beat Chris's bracket, Matt's bracket, try to beat the brackets, win some money.

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I assume you say no. And what are the best times of the year in sports? It used to be my best time. It would be my favorite time. Thursday, Friday, my favorite days that used to be forever for the NCAA tournament, try to find a way to not work. A lot of times I just wasn't working

when I was younger, bartending. That's a good way. Yeah, right. What is the way? Because I was going to ask you this, like for dudes out there, I got a little life advise for you later, which is a segment we do. And a little sprinkling of that, like if a dude wants to figure out how to get out of work on

Thursday and Friday, what's the best course of action? Because everybody's doing it. Well, the best one, and I've said this repeatedly, is you tell people at work that your fiance called off the engagement. And, you know, you can't be super locked in with everybody at work. But it's so awful and awkward, there's not going to be a lot of. follow-ups, especially when they didn't know you were engaged in the first place. So, like, wow, that guy's a pretty private dude.

And you're like, she called it off. You tell them, like, on a Monday, hey, rough weekend, whatever. And then I got to, you know, just a couple days to regroup. I mean, granted, you can't do it again the next year. Like, that's the all-timer if you have to get out. Right. Or you're just like, you're super bad at picking them. We'll leave this guy alone.

I think it's a great, like, personal traumatic thing where lying about that is completely different lying about a dead relative where you could get caught. up like you can be like oh i'm going to my grandfather's lake and be like i thought he died last year around march badness you're like there's always a paper trail with real people yeah this if she doesn't exist then you don't have to worry about her calling you out and since you never brought up that you were engaged in the first place everyone it works like what a weirdo you are anyway and we're just going to let him stew on his own yeah maybe some follow-ups but at that point you know the schedule lightens up for you tv wise all right so what is the best time of the year in sports

I mean, my answers are stupid. My favorite things the NBA draft, and it's like the worst time of the year. The finals are over. Fucking terrible. What time is the NBA draft even? I feel like it just had. End of June. Okay, I thought it just happened.

No, it's the worst. I mean, my answer suck. Like, the best, I know that there's like, that's an awful answer. And you're so good at sports. But this is, this is just weekend. People are like, oh, baseball starts it. But no one cares about it anymore.

I care about baseball. I don't talk about it. But I'm not romantic about it. I mean, I used to drive down to Fenway. I go to opening day by myself and just sit in the bleachers. And I kept score like a fucking loser. Yeah, like an old guy. Yeah.

Well, so what it? Okay. Man, O'Do B McDowell tracks the ball really well. Yeah. Well, you can't see that on the scorecard, though, which is why you got to couple that with the game film. Yeah. But yeah, nah, like, what are the things that you probably, if you talked about them on

your pod and you would talk about them passionately, but you know you're, your listenership is not going for it. You say you kind of stay off baseball. Like what's another thing that you're like, I wish people cared as much as me? I threw on the Oilers Bruins game the other night because I just love, you know, I love that Edmonton group.

Yeah, dry-siddle, my dude. And obviously I'm friends with just a ton of pro athletes, specifically the skaters. Mm-hmm. And they gravitate towards you. Right. I don't know, though. that would be debated.

You were friends with all the King's guys. I'm friendly with them. More of the UVM guys. I'm friendly with the Kings guy. We're not like written summer coaches together. I think I had it on and I realized I had basketball on the other two TVs and I hadn't stopped watching hockey. And I was like, you can't do this.

It's kind of the UFC. I don't have to talk about it that much. Randomly I'll do it for the big fight, but I just enjoy it. It makes me feel like a fan where the NFL for you, college for you. Same thing, NBA for me. Like, I'm not watching it in any other way than what does this mean?

Where's the topic and all this different stuff? Right. I think a lot of people will tell you like that. I love conference championship week in the NFL. I like it better than the division round. I don't know if you'd say conference championship in college football because sometimes you get some awful matchups. There's no replacing a Saturday in the South for me.

But that's just one weekend or one matchup. for one event. So I think most people would say the Masters. I feel like the Masters is kind of the default weekend because you have, you still have basketball going on, you have baseball starting up. But without football and the answer, I don't know that it's the right answer. Kingston, you have an answer, I feel like. And isn't there a time of the year and you guys all know this at home where there's like seven different sports going on at a high level? That's true, but the sports equinox, but I swear I'm not making it up that the NBA drafts is my favorite day for the year as well. You guys are fucking ridiculous. A lot of fun at parties. All right. So, um,

Did you ever see that Herb Street tweet? He like just destroyed the draft. The NBA draft? Yeah, go look it up. It's hilarious. And I feel like it's okay to bring it up now because last time I interviewed him, I go, hey, man, what's with the strays that day? Like you just, it was just so violent.

It was the worst day of the year entitled young men. And I'm like thinking, wait, your entire deal is that you're on the football side of this where you watch these dudes the whole time and then you get to see them live out their dream, walk across the stage, something you got to do. I mean, that's a real moment. That's a fucking, you know, kid in his room looking at posters actually getting to live that out. And when it was basketball, he killed it. And then I was like, what were you doing?

And I go, by the way, it was on our air. And when he did it. And I think he said something like, I'd rather watch a Reds game any day or a week. He said, not just the NBA draft, the entire NBA, all caps, except this is the oldest guy tweet ever, except to watch the Warriors and LeBron in the final. He probably likes the way Steph Curry conducts himself. Strictly college hoops guy. So he's a college hoops guy.

Okay, but this isn't even the draft one. That's a different one I didn't even know about. And again, the only reason I'm bringing it up is that he and I talked about it. And he was so funny. I love Kurt. We saw him at Ways Management. He's awesome. And he's so funny because he's like, I think he said like in the interview with me.

He's like, man, I don't know what was going on that day. He said Marlins Padres was a game he'd rather see, which just seems so fucking arbitrary. I don't know if he's a fan of one of those two teams. He isn't. Okay. Well, all right. So Rogers was just on McAfee at time of tape.

You didn't see it. A lot of love, appreciation, and gratitude for the Packers. And essentially came out and said, hey, when I went into the darkness, right,

he said he was 90, 10 retire. And when he was in the darkness, which, by the way, is a whole other thing. like he can't there's no light it's not an exaggeration you know home not even a pin i i researched it after he talked about it yeah it's like to be dismissive i wanted to understand it yeah dude no i don't know if i could do it i wouldn't want to not being able to read would suck uh there's no churnow in the

darkness retreat on murder mountain i'm done with chernow i can't he's got nothing i mean he's coming out with a mark twain book so i'm looking forward to that but i've read the entire catalog no way I thought you were saying like you found something out about him you didn't like. No. You're actually done with his catalog. Yeah. But when he went to the darkness, 90-10 retirement, he spent an entire day reflecting on retirement. And then he spent an entire day reflecting on, you know, like continuing to play.

And when he came out of the darkness, the Packers had changed their tune from saying, take your time to, hey, hurry the fuck up, man. We didn't know what was going on there. Can't text you. There's no service. The whole thing. Anyways, he was like, I got a lot of love and gratitude for him, but I'm moving on to the Jets.

And all we're waiting on now is the compensation agreement that will come with this trade. So that's what's holding it up. And it's the Packers side holding it up. And, you know, a lot of people have been hating on A-Roy. Rod saying, hey, he's making things complicated when he's keeping it simple. It's a simple free agency process, dude. You know?

Well, it isn't, though. No. Okay. You're on it today. But no, like, listen. Because he's not a free agent one. You know what I think about Rogers? I don't hate Rogers.

I don't dislike Rogers even. I just think there's funny shit, undeniably funny shit that goes on. Like, you got to admit, like, you know, I'm not being dismissive, but it, It's substandard, not substandard, because that would imply it's not good, right? It's not standard to, you know, like retreat into, you know, a dark room for four days in the heat of free agency when you've been doing this thing every year. So I don't know. I'm excited about the Jets, man. I'm excited about Joe Douglas landing the big fish.

And I think they got a chance to compete, man. I mean, listen, that team was so competent last year. Mike White was better. He liked. Defense was awesome. That defense was filthy, man. They were disgusting. They were so deep up front.

Obviously, the young corners, both of them are really good. But, you know, like the offense was so inefficient. Like, look at when Mike White came in. Everybody went crazy about this guy, but it wasn't like they were scoring points. They never had a chance to realize. their potential. So I'm excited about it. And then like you got a slot guy like Elijah Moore who couldn't see the field. Maybe Rogers gets something out of him. Obviously, look how good Wilson was with the quarterback situation. Yeah. That guy looks like he's going to be a stud. He's great, dude. And

you know, I like Lazzard. And we don't have to find out what Lazzard looks like without Rogers because he knew and he had the drop. He airdropped him something from the dark room. And so that deal was in the works. So yeah, I'm excited about that. Just as a side note before I ask you a basketball question or two. Yeah, I don't have much more on it. I think it's the right move by the Jets. When you're, you know, everybody's quarterback decision is based on like relationships, right? It's just like dating. Like if you dated a girl that cheated on you all the time, you might downgrade in the looks just for somebody you feel like you can trust a little bit more. Right. Right. Next time around. You might go, you know, you didn't really get me going all that much, but she's not going to sleep with my brother.

Exactly, dude. Which is. which is a skill. Yeah. So I think when you're the Jets, you go, well, we've tried a bunch of different things here. And now we can bring in one of the greats because he really is that good. Maybe from a talent standpoint, I don't know who's ahead of them. I think when Mahomes is all said and done, we would talk armed talent and the decision and all that kind of stuff. It was a down year. It was a weird year. But I think from just another relationship analogy would be, you know, the Packers have been on the other side of this,

which is unbelievable that they end up with back-to-back quarterback. that exits would be multiple seasons of uncertainty. Yeah. And I do think he obviously likes all this stuff. So there becomes a point with it with me where I'm like, okay, is this about football or is it about the attention? I also think it's kind of funny too, like the people that are super defensive of all of this stuff, because at this point, enough was enough. And, you know, good for him.

And I still think he has a lot of good football left in him. And I wouldn't let the drama get in the way of like the evaluation of who you think he is. But when I see it play out in media, it's kind of funny. like the only people that defend him are the people that have access. Right. Yeah, yeah. Right? So, and then some of the stuff that he says.

I think there's a lot of people defending him too, though, that are like, hey, you know, I do think, hey, we're talking about two separate things. A lot of people are tired of Rogers. Like, they just don't want to hear him talk. That's not me. And I don't think there's anything wrong with a player using their platform. Like, I talked a fuck ton and I wasn't half the player Aaron Rogers was or is. I don't want to use the Green Bay Packers language there.

But I do think the dragging out the contract situation, the unrest, the professional stuff does get a little. I would say it gets old, but I have a job to do here, and it's something to talk about. Yeah, I just think of it from the Packer standpoint. Like, okay, what do you want to do? I might want to do this. I might want to do that.

And then you're like, oh, okay. And then you're going to go back and play. And, you know, I think all of you dudes that any guy I've ever known that's played in the NFL. like there's this really post, weird postseason mental exhaustion where almost all of you don't want to play again.

Yeah. And I remember talking with you about it. And I'd be like, nah, man, you got one more year and you one more year. And then I think you've even flirted with it for a little bit. I know your brother certainly, your brother did it too. And I think it's just such a demanding sport that all of you are exhausted by the time January, February comes around. But the problem is, is if you're the face of the franchise

and you've done it for multiple seasons in a row, So that's the part where I start to have a little less sympathy for your play. No question. It's not even specific to Rogers. It's just, you know. Yeah. All right. So, Brony James, been in the news a lot.

What if you were like his advisor, Brian Rosillo advising Brony James. He needs me. No, but I mean, like, yeah, he's got LeBron. But, you know, like, say he wanted a podcaster take. What would you do? Would you go G League? Would you go playing in college? college, would you go play in the league? And what do you think about Ronnie James the player?

I haven't done enough work on him, okay, because it's a 24 class, and I'm not even close to being into my work for the 23 class. Coward? Well, I do it a little bit differently in that. I don't have time to watch college and NBA, so then I kind of cram it all together before the draft. So, uh, I know I can tell you what I've heard. I just haven't seen him enough to sit here and tell you, okay, this is who he is as a player. I think early on, there was a lot of hype for him for obvious reasons. Then I think there was a bit of a dip on the production, what he looked like on the court. I would say this year looking at him compared to the other games

that I've seen him play last year, I think he's a much better player. I think physically looks better. I think he's quicker where I thought there was a time where I'm like, okay, is he really going to be quick enough at his size? Because it's not like he's coming in 6-7, 6-8, right? He's a lot shorter than his dad is. The dad part of it's impossible for him to escape,

but the dad part of him can be a huge positive. As great as the G-League opportunity is for guys that don't want to go that route, his games would be a huge deal on ESPN signing with a blue blood program. So I'd probably say, hey, do the college thing. I don't know if Nike gets involved because of the history with the father, where that's going to be a forever deal where it's like go to a Nike school, you don't have to worry about making every single last NIL dollar because it's a different dynamic for you financially.

So I would still think that he would get a ton of attention. Now, the problem is if he steps in as a freshman, he doesn't crush it right away, when ESPN.com, what, a few weeks ago, had him going as the 10th pick in the 2024 draft, which I can tell you the reaction to that from around the league, from the teams that I talk to, and I don't talk to every team, but I heard from plenty of teams going like, what is going on? And again, I'd have to be like, hey, you know, I don't work at ESPN anymore. They were a little surprised.

They felt like him being slotted 10th a year plus from the draft was very aggressive based on the player he is. I think the all conference stuff came out for the high school, he wasn't even first team. He was second team, but he wasn't first team. So if you're going to be the 10th pick in the draft as a smaller player, like you should be dominant.

Well, I was co-falcalfalcum club player of the year, a senior year, locally, which was the county player of the year. In college, or excuse me, in basketball,

right? In high school football. Oh, yeah, because I saw that basketball clip of you the other day. Got to tell you, it wasn't blown away. I was pretty fucking good on vacation.

We were in Anguilla and me and Kyle were walking up on the basketball court in this French kid 12 years old, kind of tall, rangy, like a big wing kind of kid with a shell necklace was like 1 v1, like he was up there alone. And he was so forward about it. I don't know if you ever get that. Like when you walk onto a court. Just happened to me. Yeah. And I was like, I made some shit up. I was like, yeah, I'm too old or something stupid as fuck like that. 10 minutes later, I'm fucking crossing the kid up. you know Kyle played him and then my competitive juices got going and I just fucking schooled this kid in front of my whole family it was awesome yeah same thing happened to me in

Maui a couple weeks ago 12 year old came up to me I was like do you want to play I was like really and his dad was there his dad was like stout yeah thick yeah like I could tell you got to play dad so I was like yeah I'll play it I got up seven zip and I'm like you're really going to do this and then it was 10-1 and then I lost 12 to 10 oh no wow but I didn't know what to do like I didn't really know I didn't it's not like I was driving

and posting on them I just kept putting up threes and that Maui wind you know how it starts blowing around sunset yeah so it was weird though because then after I was annoyed like later that night I was back in my hotel room I'm like wait why are you sort of off right now you're like oh because you lost a 12 year old yeah because it's like so out dad right

and then it's like well because did you like do you think you lost lost like I'm talking to myself going you didn't lose you didn't lose lose but you lost and then I think I saw the kid like taking a video or face timing with me behind him and he was like pointing at me in the phone so I was like now his dad did tell me he was like a really highly ranked 12 year old for the state that he's from which which it didn't really make me feel any better but like Hawaii yeah no no no he was on vacation no okay well I'm just making sure he wasn't local yeah he's Vermont, right?

Yeah, exactly. I love the people were like, I was all state in Vermont. Yeah. Yeah, well. All right, so where were you on the fucking brawny thing? My thing is that I would imagine he would get, if it's about exposure and if there's a relationship with a Nike school,

that that would make a lot of sense. The problem is if he's not crushing it right away, right away as a perimeter player. Now, if he was a big who was massive and you saw the athleticism and there wasn't a ton of production, okay, that's fine. Like those guys are going to get more of the benefit of the doubt. But if he does, and I don't know if he will or won't, I haven't watched enough of them, okay?

But if he comes in and goes to like Duke, say, right? And with Kay not being there now, maybe it's not as likely. I think there were some rumors about that in the past. But again, I'm just, you know, dudes talking. if he doesn't come in and kind of light it up, I mean, for all the shit Austin Rivers takes as an NBA player, like the guy still produced. Yeah, and he's a good player.

At a really high level at Duke. So if he went to the G League and doesn't crush it, no one's really going to see. Yeah. I mean, the people, the guys that are watching G League games, it's not a long list. So maybe that's the better play. If they feel like, hey, it's better,

he's just going head first. We have a little bit more control because there's an NBA connection to him. it. He can kind of hide a little bit. I don't know. He would get more recognition in college, but if he doesn't produce immediately, again, as a smaller perimeter player, it's going to be

unfair for him, right? It's going to be unfair. So when dot com puts him as the 10th pick and no one's ever watched him dribble of basketball before and then they turn on whatever college game if he ends up going to college and he doesn't light up right away. I mean, the standard for him is going to be almost impossible, which is unfair to him

but it's how it works. It is how it works. I know it's I know what, on a smaller scale, what Brony is going through. That would be an awesome pod, you and you and LeBron. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I'm serious. Or Howie and LeBron, probably, and me and Brony.

You know. Diane. Diane and Savannah. Savannah. Maverick Carter. Yeah. Exactly. Okay.

So the Luca and Devin Booker beef, which seems legit. seemed like they don't like each other. Had me thinking, do you have a favorite all-time NBA beef? And what do you think of this beef here? Booker's not afraid to get into it with some guys. I mean, he was going out of Jay Crowder last night. It was a little bit different because they were teammates there.

I think it was a little bit more, you know, sort of like just two dudes messing with each other that like each other a lot. But Booker's not afraid. And I like that a lot about Booker. If I had to get one basket in a game and I get to pick whoever it is, I would pick Luca first to get me that basket. That's how special he is. He's also one of the most annoying players to watch when you watch a full game.

And if you watch a full season, again, I'm not rooting against or for the Mabs. So if I'm a Mastan, it's like whatever. But he is non-stop bitching. And so if you're another player, especially like Booker who has some status in the league and it's really, really good. He's not Luca, but he's really good. You know, that play at the end of the game, like Luca missed the bunny. He knocked over the defender because he's always bigger than everybody pretty much. And Luca got mad.

And then Booker was like, that's a charge, that's a charge, that's a charge anyway, even though they were going to win the game. And then Luca like turns to him like, what the fuck? What's up? So Booker, I wish we had more of this stuff. Like there's some Philly Milwaukee stuff that happens here. That net six or stuff that was happening when Ben Simmons was playing. We don't have enough of this in the NBA. And it made it more fun when you knew, oh, wait, those.

two teams are playing against each other, like they've gone through some playoff battles and they hate each other. Like what? Was there a team that you knew that it was a little different when you played against them? I don't know if the Rams. Seattle. What made it different? The physicality of the two groups up front.

You know, Tom Cable, offensive line, really physical, Marshawn Lynch, and then San Francisco. And they had shit starters. So like, you know, and we always played them tough, which we were like an annoyance. you know uh in fact the year they win the super bowl i think we beat them once or twice um and on monday night football we held him like we held marchion to like 15 yards you know they still beat us like nine six san francisco same way big physical group uh some shit starters uh Alex boone guys like that breno jaccomini in seattle so like just playing what's a shit starter do give me an example um over the course of of three hours never never takes their hands off you you you know

know like Brenno Jacamini, the whistle blows, you know, you're trying to finish freehanded, he's got vice grips on you and he's driving you over the pile or, you know, the guys yanking at your face mask at the bottom of the pile or, you know, throwing a little uppercut here or there, you know, just little dirty shit that over the course of a game is annoying. Well, it's really annoying when you play that team twice. and so I think like the best rivalries obviously are rivalries where the teams get to know each other really fucking well because there's nothing worse in her personally or in sports

than when you know somebody's going to do something and they do it and that's I think the familiarity of playing a rival yeah and that's what I think we used to have where these playoff series were so you know there was team guys were just with teams longer I'm not doing the old guy Yeah, yeah, but it's true. It's just true. Like when you had the same core guys on a team for six or seven years and you face each other on the same side of the conference, you know, going back to that Detroit, Boston stuff where Boston, you know, they're coming for the belt in Detroit.

Like that stuff was personal. It was nasty. So you always knew everybody was running a little bit hotter during it. I mean, one of my favorites was Barclay and Shaq. It had been brewing. It had been brewing. They're certainly not contemporaries. They're kind of different generations that overlap there a little bit towards the end of Berkeley and the start of Shaq.

but like when Barclay was like, screwed, I guess I'll throw a punch because hopefully this gets broken up at some point. Like that kind of stuff. I'm not saying I want fights all the time, but there's just a different,

there's a different feeling in the air when you're at one of those games. And even, you know, again, it was just a simple regular season game and then everybody's trying to downplay that Ben Simmons returned to Philadelphia. But I like that there was angst, there was an angst attachment to that game

that I wish we had more of. Yeah. And we don't have it a lot right now in the NBA. Agreed. Piggy backing off. of this, I'll give you a mailbag. This was from Gates like Isaiah.

He goes, and this is in the wake of Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce talking about Richard Jefferson. And he asks, is there any team that milks a single championship more than the Boston Celtics? And before you say the Philadelphia Eagles, I want to say I thought about that. But the Celtics have a million, okay?

and they won one, you know, as contemporary, you know, franchise. And, you know, I think that differentiates us a little bit. Yeah, you would need more time removed from it. And it's also not like seven of those eagles are going to end up like, well, I don't know. I don't know if that's entirely fair.

I mean, Garnett and Pierce both did some media stuff. Kelsey? Yeah, but Kelsey's doing his own thing, you know. Yeah, yeah. So it's a little different where Kelsey's not on a pan. once a week for a few seasons going, what do you think? What do you think? No, that part of it, I think, is a little fair.

But I do think that OA team is a good example of kind of the start of the modern NBA. Not that we didn't have big threes before in the 60, 70s, and 80s, but for three guys to end up together and what I've always said about those three dudes is that they had had enough failures individually

that they were ready to be over it as a team, which is what you need in basketball. You need some guys to be over certain parts of their games, to make all the pieces fit together. And they did it and they did it in that first season. You know, they probably should have another one in there. The O-9 team was better. But now I sound like I'm doing it for them.

So do they milk it? I don't think they do, Rye. I think they're just outspoken guys. So you're going to hear them. They had platforms. Yeah. I think that's the difference. Like if you had the New York Rangers on from the 94 team, you know,

when you want to talk about like winning a title in a city, which also has a ton of history of winning like Boston's had, especially the last two decades. But you could also make the point like the Celtics for all the titles. It's the one since 86, which is weird in comparison to like the other dominant teams of more modern eras here.

Yeah. There was a point as a member of that team where I was like, and it's fairly recent, it's more recent than I'd like where I was like, okay, I'm fucking over it. I don't want to hear about it anymore. Like, you know, like you get...

Yeah, that's impossible. It's the only one, though. That's why it means so much. I always want to hear about it like interpersonally, like when I roll up to a tailgate or when I go back to the stadium or I meet an Eagles fan. But, you know, I'm just not into talking about it anymore, you know. Or you go to an Eagles concert. Yeah, an Eagles concert too.

Cowboy Reed loves the Eagles. So, we're the Eagles for you right now. Give me a seed. Five seed? No. If I'm doing the seating, if I'm Ken Palm, they're like a nine. If you're Ken Palm in it, but I don't know. nine like in American they're like a five in American rock band history uh for me but you know like

internationally like a nine you know I'm the Eagles are fine dude they're fine sounds like you don't like the Eagles but they're fine he shits on them sometimes I don't shit on the Eagles please okay hey here's what I always ask myself whenever we're talking music and I know we'll move on here quickly yeah is there ever a moment where I go this is what I want to listen to and if the answers no then that band or that performer isn't super high up on the list. Like, I always felt like... Hotel California, I'm into it. Whenever.

Whenever you want to play that fucking song, I'm into it. Go ahead. Yeah, great songwriting. I get it. There's plenty of stuff. Like, I get Bruce Springsteen. I get it. Saw him once, Final Four. I think I was with Mike Tariko. You know, we were doing our ESPN deal, big rollout.

Somebody invites you to Bruce Springsteen. You're like, hey, I get it. This guy's fucking awesome. What an incredible performer. All the energy to do it this many nights to do it at this age. He's bringing it. Trubidor, all-time songwriter. I've never once been home. let's say after a few CLs at 2.30 unlocking the door going,

I'm throwing on the boss. I'm throwing on the Eagles. I'm throwing on a little Billy Joel. You've never said like darkness on the edge of town now? Like, right, this is shocking, dude. That I've never come home late at night out? Because you know that's the move. It's right to the music.

You're shocked that I've never once put on Bruce Springsteen. You never put on hungry heart? You know? You got a hungry heart. And look, when born in the USA came out on tape cassette, you want to know who's carrying over bricks from the palette to the brick layers at nine years old. You want to tell me born in the USA wasn't getting flipped over and over and over all day when that came out? What was the percentage of brick layers who knew the song was ironic? Zero.

Yeah, I don't know that you know the song's ironic, to be honest. Okay. I got some life advice. You're more political than I am. You always happen. I got some life advice for you, which is a segment we do here. All right. So this, this.

Guy just one good to bad and the ugly by mistake. But it is fun to like ask you advice. And I get why that, that segment is so legendary. So, Rye, I got a son named Waylon, who you're friends with. And he's really turning the corner when it comes to sports fandom. him like he is into professional and collegiate sports. He asked me to watch where he runs a football games, the whole thing. He's an Eagles fan, right?

He has no choice, I don't think. But he has a side team that's starting to worry me that could usurp the Eagles. And I'm looking at some of the free agency moves that this team has made. And they're all in. And I kind of worry that this time period could align perfectly with his budding, sports fandom and it's not a team that I care for currently because I may or may not have been kind of in the weeds with some of these people online. It is the Miami Dolphins. He loves the team colors. He loves the state of Florida and he knows nothing about the players. What the fuck do

I do because his mom has gone as far as to promise to take him to a Dolphins game so he can see his Aunt Coco who lives in fucking Miami. And I feel like this is damn near like betrayal. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's like betrayal

is what it is. Like because my wife. You got to get in front of this. You got to get in front of this. You can't have. I mean, look, the two team thing, it's allowable up until a certain age. Yeah. I really do. I think like once you're an adult adult and you're like, I like the Cowboys, and then my

AFC team is, you know, like, what? I mean, like, oh, what, Duke and the Lakers? But, um, you can't be getting any gear because he's going to fall in love with that gear. He does. Fucking his babysitter got him dolphin's sweatpants. He has a fucking Dolphins t-shirt he wears around the house. Like, here's my advice.

You sit wailing down and you go, hey, you know how there's 32 teams? And he's going to go, yeah. You know, there's only 31 picks this year? He's going to go, what happened, Dad? Exactly. Exactly. They tampered with Tom Brady. The story has not gotten nearly enough attention.

They don't do business the way business should be done professionally. And they lost picks because of it. And you don't want to be associated with that. Kids don't like cheating. Getting the technical weeds of what it did and what happened, what didn't happen. And then he'll be convinced. Waylon has the moral compass of like the Dalai Lama dude. He's incredible.

So that should probably get him right off the bat. But I also have a couple other strategies here. number one get him to a jags game stat like week one get him down to a jaggs game have duggy p meet the players i'll brief him on the situation get him on the field meet the jaguar mascot maybe he repels down from the top of the stadium that day um the other one is dolphins rape the animal yep they're an aggressive uh species yeah dude they're they're bad animals man um he's been anti-dolphin for a long time yep exactly um okay here's the mailbag and then i'll get you out of here this is a question that was spurred from a dan orlovsky take um which i think sometimes

dan's trolling like the food takes and now think the yeah the towel take uh he says it's actually at least it's better though than when it's like what is something that happened to you that you were younger that you now have used and it's like you're just you just open your Twitter account you're hoping to get him and then like no I like the way you I like the way Dan uses his uh Twitter I think he does a good job you know I like the towel question so go ahead and ask it okay 30 days is how long Dan Orlovsky um 30 times or so that's if he showers once a day um 30 showers he gets out of one towel. Why is that disgusting and how many times do you use your towel? All right. As somebody you didn't know you washed him when he was in college. Yeah. Where you were like, oh, what are you doing? You're

throwing your towel in? You know, because you drop off your laundry and they would fold it for you and they charge you like 89 cents a pound or whatever it was. It would have been less than that. Tows are heavy. Yeah. And you're like, I don't know. I think one dude at one point is his, his towel was able to like stand on his bone at some point so I didn't even know you know that you did that I would say I didn't know you did mushrooms all right yeah like hey mr. tell what's going on like I'd say I'm probably like two weeks but I've got a couple towels going at the same time two weeks okay yeah I don't know that I'm like I know you're probably neurotic about it like When the first time you came over and stayed with me and I was throwing some dishes in the dishwasher,

you like handed me the scrubber and you were like, make sure you wash this. Yes, dude. And I said, I know, because I put it in with every load. And I don't like being. Wait, you are challenging me on putting the scrubber in the washing machine every time I do a load? Of course I do. You do two weeks with one towel, man. How am I supposed to know?

Because I think that me using my own towel for two weeks with another towel in that kind of two week rotation because I have two hanging. So I'll be like, I'll use this one today. I'll use that one. I don't think that's egregious. But I also think it's entirely different when you're scrubbing food off of plates every single day. I agree. I agree. You wouldn't go two weeks without washing the scrubber. We agree.

We agree. Okay. Another one. What's it for you? You once a week towel guy? Are you after five uses? Three days. twice a week.

Three days is excessive. Yeah, well, you know. That's all right. I'm not saying you're wrong for doing. I just think that's on the higher end of that spectrum. It's not a good use of water and it's a bad look for me. Yeah, you're doing enough though in other areas when it comes H2O. Okay.

Well, so this is from Thomas Corey Woodcock, which I don't think that's a real name. Um, he was asking when am I going to get on the rewatchables and how's that going? the concept of the show, Rye, is just watching a movie and talking about it? Yeah, but they have it really buttoned up. I'll admit, before I listened to it, I was like, well, this is a podcast. No, it's probably awesome.

It is awesome. Because Bill's all over it. And then Chris Ryan and Fennacy, and then Van Lathen will get in there. And I'm leaving some people out or whatever. I like Van, dude. I like Van. I want to get Van on the show.

How have you not had Van on? I got to get Van on the show. What should we talk about if I have Van on? It doesn't matter. Just turn the machines on and go. Okay, we'll get Van on the show. He was talking. to us about how he used to sell products at Best Buy in Baton Rouge.

I could have done an hour on just Van from Best Buy because I was like, what was your approach? He was like, I was the slow play him. I'd be like, oh, Van. Like, hey, Blake, you don't need to get that TV. I think you'd like it, but you don't need that. If you don't need it, you don't need it. You don't need the warranty. Here's what I want you to do. And then it was like on. He just talked to Van about Best Buy. Okay. All right, good. I wish the, yeah, because I had him on. I was like, I actually don't know that I to talk about anything other than this. I think you and Van would like each other more than Van and I like each other.

Okay. I'm going to get Van on. Okay. I think you being, because they have all these different categories. So they'll say like casting what ifs, like what could have happened? What didn't happen? They go back and say, what doesn't hold up? This holds up.

This one doesn't. There's all these different awards. It's a very, very perfectly executed way of watching the movie and then talking about it again. Because then if you haven't seen the movie for a while, you may want to watch it before. Or you'll actually listen to the pot and be like, okay, now that's, that I know all this stuff I want to go back. But you have, I think you and him doing broken arrows the only call. Firestorm, Broken Arrow, Broken Arrow would be great.

I would love, like, what do you think is like the worst movie that you would enjoy doing, like a bad rewatchables? I hated Robin Williams toys so much. Yeah. I hated it. And I'll tell you why. Too soon, dude. No, it's not too soon.

Read the fucking room, man. I know. Read the room, bro. Yeah. All right. Next year, you can say you didn't like toys. Okay. Thank you. So being from Martha's Vineyard,

understanding the social dynamic of being a high school student on Martha's Vineyard, there was just a lot of, a lot of problems. There were a lot of things that were in the way, a lot of stuff. And one of the ones was that the new movie would show up on a Friday night. The theory would be closed every night and then on Friday you get it. But we'd get the new movie three months after it came out on the mainline. You got like Montana movies. We used to, when we were in Montana in the summer, yeah.

Got like Jurassic Park in 2001. So you get that one and it would run for like a few weeks until the other movie that's been out for three years. Again, we were only separated by seven miles of water. I never quite understood how that couldn't have been, you know, cleaned up a little bit. So Toys comes out and everybody in high school is like, oh, hey, Robin Williams, like it's that Friday. And you're like, oh. And then the whole time I'm like, this thing sucks. And I used to be a big, I'm going to leave guy like I was making a statement.

You leave movies early? Yeah. I used to. I left Van Helsing so early, Van Helsing. Lady in the Water. Yeah. So then I went to Germany my senior year of high school and it was like we had individual

entertainment systems back then. And then they're like, okay, your in-flight movie Toys starring Robin Williams. And I was like, fuck, I can't escape this thing. Back to back. So I would not do that one. Okay. You got to see Simon says, man.

It's a Dennis Rodman movie. It's like, double team. Well, I haven't seen double team. I mean, I've seen double team, but I haven't seen double team. But this movie's so bad, it's good. It, like, really is. It's an incredible movie. I don't

hate it the way I hate three billboards. Like, I hate three billboards. Oh, it's terrible. You know what you could do is you could do your own version. I mean, everybody just do the rehatables. The rehatables. The worst fucking movies. And then the pods are shorter because you're like, hey, I stopped watching it after 40 minutes.

Rehatable is perfect. I'm sorry, Bill. Okay, they're not taken. Also, on the teams that milk won championship, how about America? 1945, man, it's been a while. I mean, no, you could say we won the Gulf War.

Dude, early 90s, Gulf War, that was a fucking, that was a sweep. I know, but it's kind of one of those, like, you know, hey, Toronto won in 2019. I forgot. I didn't say it. I didn't say that.

No, I'm joking. You see Katie was hurt for Iraq? Yeah. Saddam Bob does Achilles. And all the people... I wait for to see what you were going to get to the with the cheering part. All the people in Washington, D.C. applauded. It was glassless.

Hey, he doesn't have any electricity. The Pentagon is just standing ovation. We're the nicest fans of the world. All right, so. I love when Raptors fans be like, that's not what happened. And in the first video, you click on and you're like, it's what I forgot about it. I didn't forget about it. But like, it made the rounds again.

And there was a bunch of Raptors fans being like, this is all getting played out. And then it was like an anti-Canadian thing. And you're like, all right. And then you go and click on the video and it's way worse than you even remember it. Oh, and there was a guy. They did like a three-day tweet chain on a fan that's nice to people. A guy that had a car dealership and sits close to court and he's fucking nice to people. That's great.

Our bad. Sorry. Okay. That was one of the wildest mental gymnastics exercises to defend that. All right. What are your bucket list items, Ryan? I'd like to get on a boat and sail. I don't know how to sail.

I'm not going to get a sailing. I'm a powerboat guy. I don't imagine that I'll make that shift to sailing. but I'm interested in maybe sailing a schooner out of L.A. to Hawaii or something one way. I don't want to have to go back with the crew. I don't really know what I'm doing. I am pretty handy. I'm not a complainer. Well, I complain about career stuff a lot. But the rest of the stuff, like if I'm on a boat, I don't think you have to worry about me being a bad vibe on it. I think you would sign off on that. Like when close quarters, that kind of thing. Like if there's a job to do and we get to get to port safely, I'm not going to be. I'm not going to be. bring the crew down. If I'm going to notice guys who are down about it, I'm going to try to rally guys up. Yeah. I'm like, I'm like wood putty, you know, like, where's the problem? Where's the hole? All right, just rub a little in there with your thumb. So I would like to do something really fucking adventurous like that. I don't want to do any fucking base jumping. You know, if I see

another video where a guy's fucking shoot gets tied up and it's like, this is what I had to do. And then it's like, God damn it. I'm not like looking for the adrenaline rush, but I want to do something like real you know a lot of the viking stuff you can't do today but something where i would yeah i i want to kind of challenge myself and get out there a little bit but i don't have a sailboat kill manjarro um i would i want to do this shark diving uh in south africa no cage though no with a cage with a cage fuck that south africans are like whatever dude yeah they yeah they don't care uh nazar nazar uh portugal i want to go see those big big big ass waves. Let's do that. Why don't we just do that? Why don't we do it? What's the season? Let's go.

Why don't you and I do it out there? Do a joint content venture. I only say that because I'd be like, hey, Meg, I'm going to Portugal, but for work, I got to go look at these ways. That's what we need to do. I think we need to do. I would do Iceland with you again. I'd go back. I'd go back. I want to see the, I want to see the Northern Lights. So that would be, that's on the bucket list. And I'm in Montana all the time, but I've just never seen them. I want to learn to play. I want to, yeah, I want to learn to play the guitar. Um, you know, I've, I've always wanted to do that. I don't know. That's probably a boring one.

I'm a year into my John Fahey. I love John Fahey. Hold on. Get your guitar. I just learn the intro to this one. Okay. This is like, uh, oh, yeah. No, not yet.

Yep. Or, or this stuff. Here's the thing. Not there yet. No, but here's the thing. I don't know if that's good or not. I want to get to where I know if that's good or not. not. I know it sounds good to me. I'm impressed. Oh, no, no. I was a lot. I choked a little bit there

in front of the live audience. No, that's okay. Yeah, I picked it up about, uh, we're in month 11 now and I watch these videos and I fucking love John Fahy so much. So I know parts of four songs. Yeah. One whole one, but saying I know it, transitions get a little tough. But I'm telling you, it's fucking crazy because the first time you look at it, you're like, who the fuck are you kidding? You're never going to figure this out. And then, uh, I don't know, I just play the videos at like quarter speed and I look where his fingers are and then if it takes me a couple hours to know where the notes are and I can't really read music so that doesn't help well neither can I yet