Green Light with Chris Long - Ryen Russillo! NBA Draft, Russ To LA & Visiting Chris In Montana. Best NFL Names Draft.

Episode Date: August 3, 2021

(01:51) - Hello, Layup Line and Happy Birthday Tom Brady. (9:23) - Good: Jackrabbit Jenkins and the Best NFL Names Draft. (37:36) - Bad: Carson Wentz Injury and Impact on the Colts and Eagles. (54:32) - Ryen Russillo Joins for the Ugly and Recaps Montana Trip. (1:10:00) - Ryen Russillo on NBA Draft and Free Agency Deals. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Oh, damn. Evacuation pod. I have fled studio mini split. I'm headed back to Studio J. I've stopped somewhere along the way to record this pod, and I am leaving the great state of Montana ASAP because forest fire. are threatening to ruin the remaining seven days of my trip,

and largely because they're dangerous, and they could burn us up. So we're going to get on the move here. In fact, we're already on the move. But I am joined on Zoom by my trusty co-host, Macon. Hey, pal, a lot to digest there, including the very serious matter of forest fires, but your commitment to this podcast should not go unnoticed. Thanks for jumping on here. Glad we could knock one out for the people.

Hey, no problem. This podcast is going to be, it's going to be combustible. It's going to be flammable. It's hot. A spark could set the whole thing off. Rancho Kukamanga, California. Hello. I don't know much about Rancho Kukamanga.

Other than I'm pretty sure we have some listeners there. So hello. I know the Ice Cube spent some time there in next Friday. What else do you need? I play for a basketball team called the Rancho Kukumanga Cracker Killers. or he coached them. I don't remember the details there. But whenever I think about Rancho Kukumanga,

I think maybe it's a bad place for me to go. Does anybody know anything about Rancho Kukumanga? Is it actually a place where they just kill us? It's located just south of the foothills of the San Gabriel Mountains and Angeles National Forest in San Bernardino County, California, United States. See, it sounds so beautiful and idyllic, and then you show up there and they just leave like a crumbled saltine. What was on the evacuation playlist?

as you headed out of town. Well, I wasn't playing it, but it is James Hetfield's birthday, your today. Enter Sandman is the song. It's by a band called Metallica, of whom James Hetfield leads. He is the frontman, as they call it.

And I think we're going to make this the official entrance music of the green light pot. We're not going to change our Tomcat, McKinley Morganfield. muddy waters. But like unofficially, I think we just slide this in as our official heavy metal intro song to the Greenlight Pot. I don't know of anywhere else that uses this song with regularity or plays it traditionally. So I think we're safe there. I can't think of anything else at least, nothing relevant. No, it's got a good thump to it. Exit light, enter night. Maybe we could just

play it as we walk into Studio J. It's got that vibe. I'm surprised no other entity has used it as their own. Yeah, I think it's ours. It's safe to say. Definitely nowhere else in the great state of Virginia that they play this music repetitively. What's the exit light thing mean? I've always wondered that. Okay, so you got exit light inter night. Exit light is like you turn the lights off. Okay. Have you always kind of ascertained that as you listen to this? Yeah, I think I had a good handle on that one. Yeah, I never knew. I never quite knew the. words exit light and to night inter night i always thought it was and two night exit light inter night take that's kind of a tight line there dude we're off to never never land i see why that

song slaps so hard i mean that's a bar i had no idea i was always like that doesn't make a lot of sense but okay sleep with one eye open gripping your pillow tight yeah i know that one okay uh james hepfield son of an opera singer and a truck driver that is an incredible incredibly, incredibly unique cross. And that's the only way you get a band like Metallica. I feel like he's going to hunt me down for using the audio, whether it's five seconds of it or however much we can legally run, read. But James, if you're listening, we're sorry.

James, you're welcome to send us your Venmo. We are offering to pay to make this the official heavy metal open of the green light pod. but if you don't reach out, I guess that means you've given us your blessing to use it as much as we'd like. We'll get you two balloons for your birthday, a five and an eight. 58. Wow. Speaking of birthdays, you know, you think about people that when they get older, they're going to make you feel old. I don't know how Tom Brady hasn't made me feel old yet.

He's 43. You're today. Happy birthday, Tom Brady. James Hepfield be one of those guys. Like, you know, when he turned 60, I mean, he's basically there. you're going to be like oh fuck the guys from Metallica are 60 yeah that's wild and Tom turns 44

your today he's 43 hour today oh yeah yeah yeah yeah he turns 44 which is much different than 43 George Blanda 0.5% longer of a life Blanda retired at 48 does Tom get there I'm gonna say no I think he rides

often the sunset in two years I think if he wanted to he could play four more but I think in two years Giselle is gonna talk some sense into him and he's going to he's going to ride off into the sunset. Hey, in his pirate ship. Speaking of the NFL, as first reported on the Greenlight

Pod, Aaron Rogers will be quarterbacking the Green Bay Packers in 2021. Holy shit. Aren't you so glad that saga's over? There were so many tweets that were like, and just like that, I was like, just like what, dude, there's nothing that has happened over the past three and a half months. We've just talked about it. repeatedly and parsed it from every angle.

I mean, here's the deal. The best chance for him to win this year is Green Bay out of those teams we discussed. I think he knows that. I think it sucks that they haven't treated him well. And I think he got what he wanted out of it, which was, I think he wanted to chin check his occupational oppressors. And he did. And back to business as usual. Got Randall Cobb to show for it.

boy all that for randall cobb like can you imagine like fighting a war for randall cobb you really like randall cobb you know oh my gosh dude you used to give me shit all the time because when i talk about houston and their weapons which you were right about it weren't but i used to go they weren't so bad they're not so bad they got guys like and i'd list a guy and then the second guy list would be randall cov and you would make fun of me but evidently there's nothing funny about randall cobb because aaron rogers just went scorched earth on the whole state of Wisconsin, essentially, for Randall Cobb. I was right.

The guy is a fucking baller. You were right. He was like, I'm going to get married. I'm going to be a professional yoga. E. I'm going to. I'm going to go to Denver. I'm going to do a number of things unless.

Jeopardy. That's not. I'm going to host Jeopardy. Unless you get me 5 foot 10, 4 foot six running ass, 30-year-old Randall Cobb. but he's going to be open as hell just beyond the line of scrimmage every single play for the Packers coming up I don't know

this stopped the Randall Cobb hate they fought a war over Randall Cobb bro they fought a war over Randall Cobb should we go good bad ugly let's do it little look ahead here Ugly is going to be all about Ryan Rusillo so I know you're going to be excited about that

the two go hand in hand okay can't wait to hear from Rai guy let's start with good Gennoris Jenkins formerly to Norris Jenkins. I don't know if he changed this thing on his birth certificate, but it looks like his name is now Jack Rabbit Jenkins on the Tennessee Titans

website and subsequently the program because I don't think they even hand out real programs anymore. Actually, they do. I used to save like the programs because when you get in a visiting locker room, like they put the game day program in your locker every time. And like I remember my rookie year, I took like the first four and then realized that I wasn't organized to keep as many as I would probably collect over the year. So they still have programs. Janoris Jenkins's name is now Jack Rabbit Jenkins. I think it's beautiful. I think what he's

doing with that is legendary. And I would, I don't want to, I guess I would say I want to throw this one out there. Is this an all-time NFL name if we're considering this is real name? If you went to the trouble of getting it officially changed, then yeah, it's an all-timer. Janoris Jenkins itself wasn't so bad. But if your name is actually Jack Rabbit, see, I'm struggling with that. This is like when a beautiful woman gets like some sort of procedure done and you're like, I don't do that. And it's actually better.

I don't know how he made it actually better, but he did. Janoris Jenkins was the top five type name. Jack Rabbit Jenkins is a name you build around. Like Jack Rabbit Jenkins is a cornerstone name. It's just too far away from being a real name for me. It's too much nickname. But he's not messing around. He said when y'all were calling me Janoris,

I almost got upset. I've been going by Jack Rabbit since I entered the league. So it's too nicknamey for me. I think there's some other NFL names out there that are just, scintillating and they were given at birth credit to Jack Rabbit for going to this trouble but I don't know if I would qualify it as a real deal Holyfield all-time NFL name. I think it's the Megan Fox of names. I mean like you didn't think Megan Fox could get much better looking. She had certain procedures done. Everybody held their breath collectively and here she is

five years later walking down the road with machine gun Kelly. Have you seen Machine Gun Kelly and Megan Fox together? Do you know who Machine Gun Kelly is? No. And this father of a daughter doesn't objectify women and hold. I'm not objectifying. I don't hold my breath when a woman goes under the knife to see if her procedure is going to make it look better or worse.

It's all about what's on the inside for me. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Machine Gun Kelly is on the inside. And that bodes well for a guy like, Look at machine gun Kelly's build. My man is tall and slim. He's just like you, bro.

He's just like you. If you just got a bunch of tattoos, you're happily married. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 6'4 on this Colson Baker, aka Machine Gun Kelly. What's the height and weight on Machine Gun Kelly? 6'4. I don't see a weight. 31 years of age.

So a younger cat, born in Houston, Texas. If I'm guessing at the weight, yeah, maybe a 180. You're way more machine gun Kelly than DeVonte Smith. I know we did the NFL player comp, but I think you're more machine gun Kelly than Devonte Smith, which bodes well in this situation. Do you know how I'm getting to 100 push-ups these days?

I know you've asked for updates. Yeah, how are those going? Yeah, going well. I do 17, and then I take a few seconds, then I do 16, so that's 33 right there. and I'll go and do something else and then another 17 and 16 33 that's 66

go to something else 1716 I'm at 99 but when I get to 99 I can get over that hump I do a few more to get over I do like 102 usually just to make sure you rig it so you end at 99 yeah just the 17 and 16

some it feels right to me doing 25 times that feels like a lot but the 1716 three different sets easy it's cake Machine Gun Kelly is doing 25 at a time. And look how his life's going. Your life's going awesome too.

My life's going awesome too. But like, hey, shout out to Machine Gun Kelly. But really shout out to Megan Fox. And we were talking about Jack Rabbit Jenkins name. I put them up there with the elites. So I guess the question is who has the best name in NFL history? You can tell it's August. But fuck it.

We're going to draft best names in NFL history. But fuck it indeed, Chris. I'm on. I'm on a random number generator. Let's bring in the cowboy to this draft. I'm on random number generator on Google.com on my... Let's try Cowboy Read on this one more time. Yeah, a lot of trust here.

2012 MacBook Pro. Pick a number between 300 and 400 read. I'm going away from Reed. Number between 1 and 30, and I'm going to hit the thing. Go ahead and pick a number, Chris. 27. I'll say 11. Cowboy.

39. Just kidding. Jeez. 17. Okay. I hit the thing. The number is 18. Wow, Cowboy. Cowboy with the first pick. I'm second closest. Chris will go 3-4. All right. Reid, you're up. All-time NFL name list.

All-time NFL name list. I am taking Frosty Rucker. Fuck. That's a good pick. That's a solid. pick. I like that pick a lot. Pick was on my list. Yeah, he's on everybody's list. We all had the same list. Well, no, I made a big board, Chris. You know, I'm a big board guy now. I know you are. I know you are. People wait with beta breath for your big boards. Frosty Rucker is a defense event. I don't think he plays anymore. Does he? I mean,

he played forever. Frosty Rucker played for 20 years, bro. No, he last played in, um, looks like 2017 in the NFL. NFL. In 2018, he signed with the Raiders. Yep, with the Cardinals in 2017. Went to college at USC, 21 and a half sacks in the NFL as of 2018. Fuck, the dude was there forever. He always, that name, I think, of an angry snowman, like literally one of those angry snowmands. They put various places. I can't think of anywhere. They put those. But you can, you know the guy with the squiggly line mouth that's like an evil snowman. I don't know where I'm getting that from. But that's a badass name. especially when it's snowing, like snow games, that guy loves them. We'll go five deep here with the second overall pick.

I select Jack Youngblood. Fuck you. Look, part of being a good drafter is knowing who you're drafting against, you know? Yeah. And I'm a big Jack Youngblood guy.

What can I say? What can you say? Regardless of picking right ahead of you. War the number 85. We're that beautiful blue and gold. 14 years in the NFL. for the L.A. Rams. Formerly on the back wall of Studio J.

You're up with a third and fourth pick. I'm going to go Buzz Nutter. Okay. Now, that's fair and all because that's a great name, but nobody has ever heard of Buzz Nutter. American Football Center in the NFL for the Baltimore Colts and the Pittsburgh Steelers. He played college football at Virginia Tech.

Chris, would you like to rethink your pick? Oh, damn. born February 16th, 1931 in Somersville, West Virginia. He was a center and a linebacker. Drafted in 1953, round 12, pick 136. That is a terrible name to have if you can't finish the job at 1 a.m. Outside a bar in... Blacksburg.

In Baltimore, circa 1956. You're in the back of a... I don't know. What's an old car? Buick Skylark. Can't finish the job. Your name's Buzz Nutter. That's brutal. Nobody's heard of Buzz Nutter.

Are you okay taking somebody nobody's ever heard of? I feel like you're hating on my pick. He's got a wiki. I am. Hey, if you can sleep at night with Buzz Nutter, be my guess. Am I up again? Is that how this works? That's right.

Okay. Frosty Records off the board. You're having trouble getting to five, aren't you? I sure am. Recapping the top three. Guys are recaving the top three at number four. That's funny. I'll go Fair Hooker.

Dude, this is unbelievable. Never heard of her. What I said before we started was just don't take Fair Hooker, Happy Felder. Yeah, that's a total make and move. We all have the same list of names and he's able to tell us who we can't take at the beginning of the draft. Okay. You are a hooker, American football wide receiver in the NFL. played for the Cleveland Browns

drafted in 1969 the fifth round played college football at Arizona State 129 career receptions for 1,845 yards and eight touchdowns played five years

in the NFL card the guy's name's fair hooker he took serious pictures with that name I totally respect the fact that he had no choice but like

people change change their name for less. He's expensive, but he's fair. You're going to get exactly what's advertised out of that transaction. Fair Hooker. Number two pick. Okay. One, two, three, four.

At five overall, my second pick, I feel like his name is, is a bit too commonplace, but still, I just love it. I love it even because of his full name, not just the nickname.

I'm going to go, Ha, ha, Clinton Dix. His full name, name is Hashan Trayshan Clinton Dix So either way

If you want to say Ha ha ha is not given fine I'll take Hashan Tresha Clinton Dix Now of the Dallas Cowboys

Do I have that right Are we back with Green Bay Not Dallas Cowboys anymore He last visited The Panthers Mandatory mini camp On June 15th

2021 Damn Wow We're not even Jokes on us round one in 2014 let's go ha ha

did you get it reads up oh I get it with uh what is it pick number six I'm taking wonder Mons he played one season

with the San Francisco 49ers drafted by the Pittsburgh Steelers in the fourth round of the 1976 NFL draft that's Wonder Mons W-O-N-D-E-R

M-O-N-A-N-M-O-N- NDS. You're coming I also won the Gray Cup in 1976. Oh, that changes everything. Yeah. Ottawa Rough riders.

You're coming back at seven. You want to pick somebody prepared over. You know who also spent some time on the rough riders? Facts. Fair hooker. All right, am I up? No, Cowboy, Reed. I am, and I am taking Ebenezer Ecubon.

Okay. Also, good player. Good player. defensive end played for the Cowboys, Browns, and Denver Broncos. Played college football at North Carolina. He's the first Ghanaian to play in the NFL. Probably Ghanian. Ghanian?

Probably. Probably. Almost certainly. Certainly. Okay. Finished with 36 and a half sacks. Ebenezer Ecubon. I don't think he's done to be continued for double E.

It's my pick. I'm going with the Utah Ute. Chris Fuamatu Ma'a Fala. Oh, that's good. Fullback. I guess that means I'm up. I think I'll take Happy Feller. He was a kicker. And he looked mean as snot in his picture. Happy Feller played in like the 40s. I'll take him. I mean, you can't help, but smile.

You're up again. When you draft a guy like Happy Fela. mockery of this serious draft. Am I? Buzz Nutter, Fair Hooker, and Happy Feller, yeah, I should say so. The point of the fucking draft is that these guys have cool

name. That's fair. Actually, Fair Hooker is not the best name. Once I took Jack Yomla, you were ready to torch this draft. Oh yeah, I was. Okay, you're up. I'm up again? Yep.

All right, this is a tough one, but here's the point the draft where I take people off the board. I'm taking Phillips super gnaw off my big board, although I really like his name. It can still be picked by others. I know. I'm just telling you he's off my big board. And of course, Guy Wimper is a great name. Because Guy Wimper, like, if that's your name, like, you have an advantage over the defensive end because he was the tackle. And if I go out there and get, like, blocked by Guy Wimper, like, it's a high stakes proposition for me. So Guy Wimper, sorry, but you're off the big board.

Number four, I'm going, Earthwind, Borland. His parents loved Earthwind and Fire so much that they named him Earthwind, without a space in between Earth and Wind. And I want you to do something for me, read, without butchering the date. This is a bit of a project for you. I want you to go back and look at his September 21st splits. I bet you that guy played lights out on September 21st, especially night game. I guess everybody in here is white as fuck

My fourth pick is Captain Munnerland Captain sure But underrated here is Munnerland In the year 1988 in Mobile Alabama Captain Munnerland went to South Carolina Played for the Carolina Panthers for a while now It was a Buffalo bill a couple years back

Captain Munnerlin is on my squad The Cowboys on the clock can I say something? I feel like when you hear somebody saying that name, who are you hearing? Captain Munnerland. I'm hearing Al Michaels all day. I feel like Al Michaels said his name a ton. Really got off on saying his name in prime time for a few years there.

Rightfully so. Captain Munterland. I wish I could imitate Al Michaels. Yeah, that was pretty poor. Not that close. Yeah. You do it. That's overwhelming.

There's a reason they pay with the big bucks. You can't imitate him. Reed. Reads up to something back there. I keep hearing sounds. Yeah, he's typing away. He's talking to his area scouts. I'm taking former New England Patriot tight end.

Yeah, you're right. Who Manowah Nui? Human. Who Man? University of Illinois, drafted by the St. Louis Rams. Used to have Kaba Hour with with Human. I used to sit in the hotel room You guys might not know what Kava is

It's like a root drink In fact, I don't really know what Kava is But I used to drink the fuck out of it And I used to have Kava with CJ IU And who man So great pick Great dude

Great Walker Might not be such a bad pick And my next pick I'm taking former Virginia Cavalier Razai Dowling Oh Thought you might go with the brick If you're going UVA

Rossi, okay The brick is a great name because if you think about DeBriga Shaw Ferguson, there's like a few guys that were on this list. Brick is a great offensive lineman name, right? It's probably a better linebacker name, but it's a really good offensive line name. Will Shields, you know, never really thought about that.

That guy's job is literally to protect people. Same thing with Nikkel Roby Coleman and Quentin Jammer. Yeah, Quentin Jammer is on my short list right here with my final pick. I don't remember if he could play press. Yeah, not really factoring into my decision so much. Prince of Mukumara, if he had maybe, eh, not great memories with the G-Men with the Prince. Ooh, lawyer Malloy is there, Lincoln Kennedy,

who went to Washington? Hmm. University of Washington? Mm-hmm, yeah. That's interesting. I know that you're doing a play on presidential games. That's right. I will go

I will go I will bypass I will bypass Peerless Price outstanding Bronco Nogerski and I'll go with the law firm Ben Jarvis Green Ellis

Oh nice Nice good pick Deep in the draft getting that pick Thank you Man it's a layup for me dude I played with him The Garrett Blunt especially when I stood next to him and it said long blunt that was always fun there was a team

there that I was on where you could stand next to one guy and it could be long Cox you could stand next to another guy it'd be long blunt he used to put Josh sweat in the in the mix there with me and fletch there are so many combinations and long blunt was one and just the garret blunt on his own yeah I'm pretty sure the the guy for uh boise state eons ago for felt like he got hit in the face with a long blunt. I'll never forget that. And we didn't know that LG would turn out to be this, I would assume,

two-time Super Bowl champion. It was just the cat who was hitting the cat. He was a cat that was hitting the cat, and he was a guy that I was like, man, uh, you know, I should have realized at the time that the guy probably said something that warranted it,

but I was like, man, that guy seems pretty, pretty impulsive. Uh, but he turned out to be one of my favorite teammates of all time. And a jovial character, not the type that just runs around punching people in the face, which makes the guy in Boise look even more questionable to me. I'm sure you are all clamoring for a recap of this fire draft.

The cowboy went with Frosty Rucker, Wonder Monz, Ebenezer Ecubon, Michael Humman, Rossi Dowling. I went Jack Youngblood, Haha Clinton Dix, Chris Fuamatu Ma'A Fala, Captain Munnerland, Ben Jarvis Green Ellis, and C. Longwin, Buzz Nutter, Fairhooker, Happy Feller, Earthwind, Moreland, and Ligaritt Blunt. I mean, I hate to tell you, but the lines, two touchdowns right now. You committed to the bit to such a degree that I think you might have, your dumb tactics might have won you that draft. Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah. It was real funny when you drafted, like, my hero and personal friend, Jack Youngblood.

All righty. that draft caps the Jack Rabbit Jenkins portion of the show. Some good for me. I've been watching some excellent television. It began with the NBA draft. We'll talk to Ryan a bit about that. Three, four other shows, some completed, some ongoing for me. All creatures great and small.

The White Lotus, Starstruck, and Ted Lasso. Chris, any of those peak your interest? So none of them peak my interest, per se. I listened for a little bit there. I was with you on White Lotus, and then I realized it was just going to be like a thing about how vacationers suck. And I do go on vacations. And also like being a vacationer and interfacing with people who are in the service industry,

I always feel like an asshole just like inconveniencing people. And I'm very meek and timid when it comes to like asking for things on vacation. and I feel like if I watch this, I'm going to feel even more in my head when I'm at a resort. So dude, you can make fun of me for the other ones and I know our tastes don't usually align,

but this show might be the best show. There is, period. It's a social satire, dark humor, something's going to go wrong. We don't know. We're four episodes in. HBO is releasing them once a week,

which we can get into later. But Steve Zon, Stiffler's mom. might be just like the best actor in the world. She's amazing in this. Steve Zon's kid, incredible. Alexandra Dodorio, DeDario, however you want to say it, incredible.

It's, I laugh out loud, and I'm not a laugh out loud guy. I laugh out loud multiple times throughout every episode. Armand, the guy who's running the place. It's sensational. I'm glad that five minutes into your review, you started listing non-white actors and actresses. You're just like the vacationers. Natasha Rothwell, who plays Belinda, is excellent.

Yeah, keep it going. Listen, this show has a shot. Dude, it's awesome. It's awesome. Okay, okay. Now, the first one about the vet back in medieval times. It's a beautiful countryside. Yeah, wherever they filmed is great.

Everybody's smoking pipes. Too uplifting. I don't believe it, especially in that time. because everybody lived to 43, they knew it, and they smelled. And everybody's smiling the whole time. It's not cute or funny to me. No chance I watched this show. Oh, no, no, no, no chance.

I did not think that you would like James Harriet's adventures as a veterinarian in 1930s, Yorkshire, a seven-part series based on the beloved books, All Creatures Great and Small. But exciting newcomer Nicholas Ralph does make his television debut as the iconic vet who became renowned for his inspiring humor, compassion, and love of life. Yeah, I'll pass. You tell me how the animals do. What's the third one again?

Some live, some die. Starstruck. No, no, star struck. Oh, the animals, some live, some die. I thought that was the name of the third show. That's not a bad name. Yeah. Now we're talking. Yeah. That's a good name. Yeah. How about it? Some live, some die. Now we just have to think about the show. Yeah. This other show, man, I don't think so. I don't think so. It feels like sex in the city. Nothing against it. But no. I think the what I'm taking away from this is that trailers aren't doing such a good job of both telling the story pulling you in, et cetera, because that's not what this is. I'm not a trailer guy. I struggle with trailers.

Yeah. And you struggle really getting off the ground with actually watching shows, it seems like. Yeah. But this is, this is a Rose Matafeo, a Kiwi comic. She's written it. She's great. A master of none field to it. flea bag. It's got a little flea bag to it.

Witty. Oh, sure. Funny. And then, of course, we round out the group with Ted Lassau, which is, I think, two episodes into the second season. Yeah, everybody, what's it called when you're dragged? Everybody dragged me on the internet for not knowing that they were releasing it one week at a time. And now I got a pony up $4.99 every single month, Tapple Plus. Whatever. Ted Lassow, I thought, I thought with some distance, maybe it was just two, corny and and it and it hit us at a special time, not a special time.

It hit us at a really bad time, a really good time, having trouble trying to describe the pandemic and what a good TV show did for it. I thought maybe it wasn't as good as I remembered. That's not true. It's still as good. Very wholesome. So you're not going to like it. Very wholesome.

I might like it. I think I might like it. I'm going to watch this week Thursday. We're going to be back in Studio J and we're going to really do this thing. We're going to break down Ted Lass. So people have been waiting. I mean, I've been trying my hardest. There was a forest fire this weekend.

So, like, before, didn't have the password, that sort of thing. This weekend, forest fire. So there's been a whole lot of reasons that I haven't watched the show, and I'll take advantage of sometime on the airplane. Hans Krauss. Yeah, Hans Kraus is good news. This is in a good. It's in the good. This guy, I sent you the video on this cat.

This guy is a double A pitcher. He's a young dude. he was with the Rangers. The Phillies said, we got to go out and get this guy because he literally in the middle of his windup does like a hip thrust. He does like one pump.

He also has like a shoulder shimmy as well that he said he got from watching, I think he got one of his moves from Dice K. He got another one from somebody else. He's got three different variations of his windup. He looks like he's being an asshole, but he's taking it dead serious. I mean, he's trying to mow cats down with these kind of,

you know, spitball pitchers, well not anymore. Knuckleball pitchers, like people with quirks. This guy is quirky as hell in his delivery. And he seems like an interesting guy. He's got neck tats. He looks like he lives in Fishtown and Philly. If he ever makes the Biggs, which you will, because he's got sauce.

He's going to live in Fishtown with Connor Barwin and all the other hipsters. His I, gee, his Twitter says, nothing is impossible. The word itself says, I'm possible. I got to think of some contradicting examples of that the way he manipulated that deal. Hey, Cowboy Reed, do you, are you, do you recall who Dice K is? I was just trying to remember is that, well, if you use the internet, that doesn't count. I did not use the internet, but I'm using it now because I don't want to. Dice K. Matusaka.

That I didn't want to mistake any names. But now I do remember, yes. making. All right. Well, that was a little game we called Does Read No. And I passed flying colors. I've never liked the Hans before. I don't think I did like a book written by a Hans Rossling. And I've forgotten what the name of the book was. Book reader flex. Yeah, no, I read like three my whole life. That's one of them. But yeah, I think I think I'm on board with this Hans. I'm hoping he gets called up to the Biggs and I hope we go see him in, uh, and we go see him in Philly. He, he, he, he might, might be our next Yermann Mercedes. I mean, did Yermann retire?

Yermann did retire and then he, uh, he came back, fortunately. Forest fires. Forest fires. Yeah. Yeah. Hans is a skinny guy too. Skinny guy is making a renaissance. Yeah. Machine Gun Kelly, you, Hans. Um, also, we don't like the word skinny. Did you notice over like over your week off that I was getting body shamed a lot. We did you, I know you didn't listen to the pot. I did a whole bit on Do you think the word skinny is like a negatively connotative word? Yes, I do. I do too.

That's what I'm saying. I think we're on to the main event, Chris. The bad for you. Obviously, I was wrong about Carson Wentz. I don't know if I ever made that you guys tell me. I probably made the claim that he's not injury prone before. Yeah, you did. Okay.

He is injury prone. I mean, like, listen, at this point, when you get to Indy and this is your big opportunity, and I love Carson, but, you know, like this is another. bad luck thing for him. Guys don't decide to get injured here. Okay. So being injury prone is not a decision. But at this point, yeah, I mean, I would concede that. And anytime I have argued against him being injury prone before I was wrong, except for in the case of when people said that he got a concussion, so therefore he was injury prone, which makes no sense. That's a separate kind of injury when you're talking about soft tissue or structural. That's a brain injury. But otherwise, like this stuff,

you know, the knee, the back, the foot, you know, whatever it is year to year, he's had to deal with a lot. And he's going to miss five to 12 weeks now because of surgery and Indy. And one of the most interesting byproducts of this conversation is Philly. We talked a lot about what their pick would be as a result of him heading to Indy, to Nap City, the capital that they gave up or that they received and giving up Carson Wentz is now not looking so hot because he was supposed to play 75% of the snaps for that to be a first round draft pick that they're getting back or 70% and the Colts make the playoffs. So effectively, when we've talked about this before, Howie Roseman sitting there in his office,

if he's hoping that Carson stinks it up or gets in. injured, you know, but not for very long. Like, we're well into that. We're well past that threshold. Like at this point, the Eagles are going to own a second rounder because of giving up their franchise quarterback and Carson Wentz is going to miss five to 12 weeks, which is a big range.

And you don't know what happens. And that calls into question what the Colts are going to do because if he's going to miss five weeks, maybe you do, you know, roll the dice with Jacob Heason and the Jacob Heason era has begun. But if he's going to be done. But if he's going to miss 12 weeks, then you go out looking for hired help. And I know a guy.

I mean, hmm. Hmm. I just feel like this saga will never end. I mean, the Foles, Reich, Wentz, Triangle, it never closes. This is, this has become a bit at this point. It's not funny, but it's a bit. And, you know, Nick Foles, who with everything that happened to him and everything that he did last year in Chicago, sitting up there masked in front of Chicago media at camp, talking pretty openly about like the prospects of him being traded. And he's way less hush-hush than I think he would have been about what were evidently a couple of passes teams made at him.

He's saying, hey, listen, those weren't the right times when I was asked to be traded or people made a run at me this offseason. I don't go places for no reason. I only go places when there's a real reason to go there. If there's a purpose, if this is going to work out for me. And I don't want to talk about those other opportunities I had because it wasn't the time. But I'm going to talk at length about Frank Reich, about myself with Frank Reich, and how I might be able to help the Indianapolis Colts and how I love Carson and I support Carson. He'll bounce back.

But Frank Reich knows who I am. I know. It's a two-minute clip. It's a two-minute clip. And he says that Frank Reich understands him three times. He understands me. He understands me. He understands me.

He also says, I'm a Chicago bear right now. He follows that up later with right now, I'm a Chicago bear. That was the classiest way to say, like, hey, ship me to my old uncle, Frank. I mean, like, that was the classiest most, like, he's, Nick Foles is a genius here. And he's also legit, like this is who he is, but he's able to say what he said without looking like an asshole. I've never granted, I've spent about 30 seconds with the fellow nicest guy you could ever run into it. Why wouldn't he be? 4 a.m. after he's won the Super Bowl.

But he was, yeah, he's fired it up. And then he says if you don't do right by me, I'll keep slinging it up with these third stringers and we're going to dice them up. He's an incredible clip. I don't know that anybody else can pull it off like that. You make the trade just for that clip. And like the internet tells me that right now they're talking about our new friend, Moonshine Minchew or Nick Foles, BDN. You know, we're doing a side by side on a lot of these sites with graphics to say like this is what the Colts could,

you know, would have to give up to get player X and player Y, of course, in the situation, Minchu and Foles. Well, the internet tells me that. that's going to cost a lot more to get MNshu than it is to get foals. I got to make a determination here. Out of the two of them, I'd rather have foals, considering the context. I know I died on this hill last year a little bit when I said, oh, it's going to work out nicely in Chicago because of the Kansas City system crossover,

the relationship with some of the coaches there in Chicago. And it didn't work out. It worked out in flash. It worked out at the end of that Atlanta game when they benched Mitch Trubisky for first time and then it started not working out. But that doesn't deter me from going right back to the well. I think if you're indie, you make this trade, not only for your football team, but for the sanity of football fans everywhere. We need this saga to continue. We need it. And the most beautiful thing is it's not going to be occurring in Philly, but it kind of is at the same time

because people are going to be watching that pick, which at this point is almost certainly a two. So the drama that's going to come out of this, like, listen, I hate seeing my buddy hurt. You know, it's, I'm rooting for Carson. He's a good dude. I would argue all the points at this point. I would, I would not argue against somebody who's saying he's injury prone because at this point, this profile has been, has been well established. And, you know, leave the concussion out of it. You know, I hope nobody's listening saying he's going back on the concussion thing.

I mean everything I said that day. But otherwise, yeah, he's built a reputation at this point for himself. And as you look at Carson Wentz, He's going to have to come back and play really well to rebound. And for him to play really well, they're going to have to be in a really good position, which means they're going to need a good quarterback. They can't just roll the dice unless Frank knows something I don't know with Jacob Beeson. I think Foles is worth a kick in the tires, a six-round pick.

That's what Pro Football Focus tells me. You need a six for Foles. You need a four and a six for Minchu. I think based on that, even if the scenarios were flipped, like think of how quickly Nick Foles is going to catch up to what's going on there and think about the positive kind of the confirmation bias that the kind of fate is going to have because you got Nick in the building, you got Frank in the building, and you've got Carson in the building. There's only one thing that can happen. Everybody in the building knows what's going to happen.

And if it doesn't happen, something I think has to be terribly wrong. They're going to make a run. And then Nick Foles is going to exit stage left. and Carson is going to come save the day and he's going to reverse BDN Nick Foles. Indy, Indy, Indy, They're going to have a statue of Carson outside the stadium and he's going to be the guy that saves the day.

This is going to be a reverse Foles situation. Foles is going to get into the playoffs and Carson's going to come back in and win him a Super Bowl. I'm not serious about this. I'm saying you could imagine what it would be like if that happened. Be hell for me. I can tell you that much right now.

What if I told you? you, there's a cat out there, 37 TDs in his career to 11 picks. Would that interest you at all? Would that be a guy who got blackballed by the NFL for talking about police brutality? How many TDs? He had more TDs than that, didn't he? That's correct. 37 to 11.

It is Gardner Minshu. Isn't that wild, though? 37 touchdowns to 11 picks? Yeah, it's wild. Is he taking a lot of shots down in field? Like, I love the guy, but, you know. completing 63% of his passes through his career. I'm just saying I think he's, for whatever reason,

better than you think. There are a few other names. Jimmy Garoppolo, go back and get Jacoby Brissette back in the fold. He's in Miami. Marcus Marriota. Hey, Philip Rivers in Alabama, coaching high school ball, has run it back. But if there is a spot for Nick Foles,

Yeah, you got to think it's with Frank Reich, and it stinks for Carson. I wonder how that post-stop meeting went. It's like, hey, the football season's five weeks away, and I've got good news. Could be five weeks for you. Yeah, yeah. Or it could be 12. I'm not positive how long the outlook on this is. You have to know more about the injury, and even then everybody heals differently.

But considering that things always take longer than fans expect, even if the players back on the field, you don't often know how much that's affecting that player. Like, you know, that's one of the reasons I hate timelines and ranges, because if he comes back on the back end, that very well might be exactly where he needs to be. But everybody sees the five, and that's pressure for Carson or whomever is hurt. Because all your fans that you care about know what the front end prognostication is. So, like, it's a tough situation. The range doesn't help Carson.

but what it does do is it creates a need for somebody. Now, I don't know if that has any effect on the leveraging of making this trade. You know, like maybe the 5 to 12 helps Indy, you know, say, well, conceivably, we could have them back week one. We don't need Nick Foles that bad, you know? Leverage. Yeah, leverage is the name of the game in the NFL. But I would venture to guess it's going to be closer to 12 for Carson. and he should take his time

and that's a good football team and I like Nick Foles I mean yeah fucking fool me twice AFC South also Julio Jones has had some injury concerns as well so a lot of the blockbuster rivals

they're reigning on the parade so to speak in that in that conference the football gods division rather okay I got it bad for you potentially life's going pretty well I have a lot to be thankful for.

More than that, there's just been a lot of milestones in the last couple of years, including the birth of my daughter that have given a whole lot of meaning to my life, a greater meeting. So my stepmother, with whom I am very close and talk to or see most every day, sends me a text message out of the blue this week. It's a link to an article. The article is titled, How a Meaning, life can make you truly happy.

This is out of the blue. No context whatsoever. She doesn't follow up with anything. Just how a meaningless life can make you truly happy. So I'm kind of like, huh, what does she think is going on around here exactly? A couple of lines from the article. Purpose and meaning are not inherently bad things. So often when we feel despair, our instinct is to escape through the self-soothing comforts

of personal purpose and meaning. We look for evidence that we matter, that it will be okay. Like, I don't know if she's coming over to see the baby or to see the dog, and she's like seeing that laundry's not getting done regularly or that like I'm leaving the oatmeal bowl out for too long. But like, life's good, full of meaning over here. And maybe I need to do a better job packaging the method.

the messaging, if you will, Chris. When you see me talk to me, do you see a guy lacking meaning or drive or motivation or purpose? Because apparently that's the vibe I'm giving off to my family. Oh, I think you have too many purposes. So she's saying subtract. Well, is that what she's saying? How a meaningless life can make you truly happy.

Well, I think she's probably selling you on leaving the public. podcast. Oh, I'm all here's now. I just, that would be a jarring thing to get from a family member, you know, without any context. Yeah. Well, instead of picking up the phone and calling her, I'll speak to her through the pod, just saying that everything's groovy at present. We're good. Like, like, I think we're in the sweet spot of meaning at the moment when it comes to my life. We're going to Ugly. Ryan Rosillo, my house guest this past weekend, had him out to Montana. But as you know, there was a forest fire. And, you know, a forest fire is like being down 7-0 after the opening kickoff. Like, you know, the first play of the game, you're behind the eight ball.

And I didn't do much to help improve the outcome in any other phases of the game. And Ryan had a tough trip. So my ugly was Ryan Rissolo's trip. You know, for the guy, to leave his home in Manhattan Beach, where he spends all his time, mostly by himself creating content, writing books and scripts and that sort of thing, and interact with other human beings. And for it to be that, I don't know that he's ever going to come back or leave his house again. And I'm worried. There's a real negative reinforcement when it comes to him leaving his house. A couple of things.

An unforgettable trip. And I think that's what we're after ultimately is unforgettable. memories, you know, won't soon forget this one. And as Ryan has told me many times, life's a little better at the lake. So I think even if there is a fire bearing down on you, he still was, he was at his happy place. That's what matters. We'll have Ryan on and talk some NBA because we're saving the football. I mean, we know we just talked a little bit of football, but there's going to be plenty of football to talk here soon. I know that some podcasts kind of do gear around like they'll tell you that like marty mornwig stubbed his toe or the brandon sheriff's

debit card got declined like i don't care okay i'm not going to be the football show that pretends that we have to talk about football a year and i'm also not going to be one of these guys ryan brought up a great point that i think we've talked about that on this show i'm not going to be one of those guys just like one more sunday till NFL football like all right got it we all like football and is coming. Like, can I just enjoy my life until then? So we're going to talk basketball today. We'll talk some football Friday. You'll get plenty of that Friday and thereafter. But today, we get Ryan Rosillo. We get the worst trip. And we get some basketball. So after Ryan, you guys can turn this shit off. Debt, the B is silent. Debt can feel crippling,

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Well, it was, it was objectively ugly. Our friendship made it, made it work. But like, if it were any other house guests, I would. have had a hard time because I just don't, maybe I'm wrong here, but I feel like you're one of those guests that needs nothing, including like a good time. Yeah, I don't. I think I'm pretty, you know, I've been by myself for a while now, so I'm not so, I'm not so dependent upon anybody else. So I guess that can make me lonely, but also a good house guest. And, you know, as you get a little bit older, you don't want to be one of those guys that like never takes his plate away or just things like some people are there to like, you know, you're not there to cater to me. And I left one of the days anyway to go to Missoula to go fishing and get all outfitted and then it was so hot the fishing

wasn't great but i think the headline is the fire navigating what we ended up seeing and you know how that night went because it's one of those deals where like if we describe everything that happens over these these couple days in just a very short amount of time people are going to be like that's one of the worst vacations weekend trips i've ever heard of yeah and i hate being responsible for it and And I hate the fact that, like, you are such a great guest. I mean, you clean up, you help the kids. Like, you do all types of impromptu tasks around the house that actually kind of put the fire under my ass to look more useful as, like, the man of the house.

But, like, you're one of those guests that if there's anybody that deserves to sit through a forest fire, it's not you. And that's exactly what you got this weekend. You showed up. You got a camper that didn't have AC. We had trouble hooking up the camper your first night. You slept on the couch. You went fishing.

you didn't catch anything. We'll get to that. And then the main event was obviously the raging forest fire at 1 a.m. on the way home from our big bar night. So where do you want to start recapping this terrible weekend? Okay. Well, the first deal is I get in late, a couple delays. We just want to add to it, grab the rental car, and I land in Missoula, and I'm like, it's 99 degrees in Missoula at 730 at night. Like, what the hell is going on? And then I didn't pick up on how bad the fire situation here. So just to get this one out of the way. I'm not going to complain about heat and fires when people are losing their house. I'm not going to complain about rain, which is needed when people were losing their houses on the lake. So we'll just get that one out of the way. I'm not going to be a selfish prick about it and worry about a couple of days when there was some really bad stuff happening. But get in and then there's a camper that's supposed to be set up and it was Chris was nice enough to put it down on the water. The only problem was there was no power and it was so hot.

Like you go in there and it was even hotter. So Chris was like you can't sleep in there. so I slept on a couch. But it was after we'd spent an hour pulling it to different positions and trying to get it on the ball, which it was fighting us the whole time. It only got under the hitch, I think, once out of the three times we tried it. And then we're backing up stuff in the woods, and it was pitch dark.

And I'm thinking like, hey, it's midnight. Like, I'd probably just shut it down on the couch for tonight and we'll do some of this maintenance stuff in the morning. Why the camper? Is it because there's not a lot of footage, or did Ryan want to have that camper experience? No, and here's the deal. And I don't want to make Ryan seem like a lesser than guest.

But, you know, last week we had Lane out. Lane had a 26-foot Arctic wolf camper because I think of him as a bit of a high-maintenance guest. I mean, he's relatively more high-maintenance. Lane want burger. Chris Drive Lane and boat to Burger. Like, that's the type of guest Lane is. Like, you know what I mean? We put eggs on the table for Lane.

And we're like, hey, here's some eggs and all the ingredients you need to make yourself some breakfast and he's like lane no cook breakfast you know like so we had to hook lane up this week it was tough there was i guess a big surge of of campers in states so there weren't as many people uh who were renting their campers out and pal's 1300 square feet literally no room for uncle ryan so we pull the camper out and usually we think like ryan's outdoorsy he might write a fucking book in there he might write a movie script he might get his john crack hour on by the lake. Typical me trying to do too much, trying to move him down to the lake, and it cost

him a night of air conditioning. And that was a bad start to the trip. I'll admit that. That's where I made the wrong decision. And Mother Nature took it from there. So that was an on. I'm going to start to the proceedings. But then, you know, got up early, watched some Paw Patrol with Whalen, Luke.

And then I went down to Missoula and fished. And by the time I got in the water, it was so hot. I didn't actually even see any fish for two hours. like not one fish, which is pretty crazy because usually I'll least see them, even if I'm not good enough to figure out what to do to catch them. But I have caught fish on my own. And you do the whole river runs through an outfit. You have the whole fly rod and the whole thing. Like you actually know what you're doing.

I'm okay. Yeah, I'm okay. And I was really proud of myself that day because the patience part of it because I had like a loop-to-loop thing on the leader. And I was like, do I really know what I'm doing if it's not? Or do I think I know what I'm doing? Or is this going to fall apart? And I was like, look, relax, and nothing gets tangled faster. Whatever laws of physics exist, fishing line defies all of them.

I mean, it's amazing to think how screwed up a line can get with just one bad move. It's unlike anything I've ever seen. So anyway, I get out the water. But the whole time, man, I was just happy. Honestly, I was just happy that I was in the water at the Blackfoot, you know, and you're just looking around going whatever. All right, I'm not killing it today on the fish count. Yeah, not totally had Chris's five-year-old wake me up at 7.20 in the morning.

I went out in the, you know, in the hallway to avoid my two-year-old, uh, ambushing Ryan who was sleeping on the couch in our 13,000 square foot house here. And, uh, discovered that Whalen was out there with his favorite uncle, um, just peppering him with questions. So that's how your day started. And by 1 p.m., you're already striking out on the black foot. Yeah, right. So made it back up. And then, you know, You know, we were like, all right, we went over to see the parents. And then we knew that the fire was starting to happen on the other side of Flathead on that side of the highway,

which is you go up to the east side for those listening. And then we knew. And seriously, one of my favorite things to do, I didn't need to go out all the time. I just like one night with the dive bars in these Lake towns, it's probably my favorite. If you were saying, like, hey, if you could have one night out, what you want to do? And I'd be like, I'd love to just to hop around to these little, like, hole in the wall spots. you know, that's what I would like to do. And so Chris and I did a couple years ago

and it's a big fork to a garden bar, which is legendary. And then we, that was the goal. So we stopped. Back it up, back it up, though. Back it up. The garden bar is not a dive. No, it isn't. It's an event.

It's an event. And by the way, the event never disappoints. We had run into a college football player two years ago. This was pre-pandy, the summer before the pandi. Ryan and I were out at the garden bar and saw a college football player beat up a 50-year-old guy, like right in the bar. And what happened, right? The 50-year-old started it, by the way.

Yeah, it wasn't the college football player's fault. But the college football player finished it, and he was a smaller guy, like a special teams type guy. Anyways, one thing that struck Ryan about the situation was after the fight concluded, everybody just sat back down and continued their night. Yeah, no one stopped anything. No one got thrown out, like guys squared up, punched a hell. of each other and it happened so fast and it was over that fast that everybody just kind of went back to whatever they were doing.

And the key point here, the key point here is that the other night we got a tap on the shoulder sitting at the bar at the garden bar and our buddy's there again. Same game. Yeah, same football player. He was like, it's great to see you guys here again. And I was like, no, it's great. We were just talking about you. It's really funny.

Literally just talking about him. Right. And by the way, we should include this as we were driving up on that side of the highway, we started to see the fire pick up. but it looked smaller and it was concentrated and it was like, oh, man, that thing's picking up a little bit, but it might just look worse because it's at night versus seeing some of the smoke line during the day and then seeing different pockets of it picking up. So that's a little precursor to what happened later.

So we were like looking at it being like, man, wow, that thing's picking up a little bit. So we did the responsible thing and we thought about it, Ryan. We thought about not going to the bar. We did. We did. But we went to the bar. And so Chris Knight of there tank topped out with another friend. great time, really, really fun.

And then we got the bad phone call, which Chris, probably you jump in here now. Yeah, no, well, I got a call from my lovely wife, Megan, said the power has been cut here on the point where we live. And so at that juncture, I have two choices, continue and enjoy our wonderful night at the garden bar for another hour and let my family light candles and do this thing like revolutionary time style. until dad and Uncle Ryan get home, or we could hightail at home and hope to beat the checkpoints,

which are almost undoubtedly set up along the East Shore Highway, which would prohibit us from returning to our home. So we got in the car. Luckily, we had a driver. We're very safe people, and we hightailed it back down south towards our house because we're going to save the day, and we were to be responsible ones that came home. I was probably going to get a hug at the door. Thank you for coming home from the bar when you heard that our power was out, and there was a giant forest fire bearing down on the point. We get in the car and Ryan and our other buddy are, as only three drunk guys could do, assuring each other that we've made the right decision.

Chris, you did the right thing. We're doing the right thing. You really should go home, as if the alternative of staying 30 minutes longer at the bar in the midst of a forest fire was even a viable option. The forest fire is not funny. Listen, I said it before Ryan was going on. I'm super depressed about it. In fact, we've already evacuated at this point and we're leaving the state.

But at this point, three drunk guys get stopped, 30 minutes in our drive, 10 minutes from the house, and we realize we have to turn around and go all the way around the lake, which is the largest freshwater lake west of the Mississippi, natural freshwater lake. So it's a 25-mile lake. It's, I believe, 15 miles wide at certain points. it's usually about five miles wide. We're going to be in the car for about another two and a half hours. Now, I made a really good decision before we left,

which was to fill a Yeti cooler. So we have our Yeti cooler. There's three dudes in a car, and we've got about two and a half hours to go. And as we are cruising around the other side of the lake, it's pitch black. Okay? I've never been on this side of lake in 30 years up here.

I've never driven this side of lake. So I don't know where we are. The only thing I can see is what looks like Mordor, if you know, Lord of the Rings, about maybe 10 miles away on the other side of the lake. And we're just tracking it. And this thing looks huge. There are trees exploding. It looks like hot lava is running down the hill. I know there's no hot lava. But it's that whole vibe. Was it not the eeriest thing you've ever seen, Ryan, on the ride back? Yeah, it was weird. I mean, I've never seen anything like that, especially as we started getting closer to coming around the east side at the bottom to then. get back to your house. Because, you know, for those that understand, like, it's still, the fire was so far away

from where your area was, but there was a worst-case scenario where it could cut off, like, an entry point. It had jumped the road. It had jumped the road. It had jumped the road on that side, but I meant, like, entry point into where we would have been going. It was still far north of that. So we went dueling songs, and then we get to a checkpoint, and then they're like, no.

And you're like, all right, now you're like, all right, now you can. feel terrible. And then, you know, you explain the situation and they're like, all right, you know, we got to get back to the house, get back to the house. So get back to the house and pack up and sleep for a little bit and then, you know, check out all the news and then and then evacuate and get out of there. So yeah, it was, it was, it was a fast and a furious two, three days for Ryan. Like I said, awful, awful host hosting on my part. But also, uh, The forest fires didn't do us any favors, and I can't control that. Go ahead, make you look like you have some questions.

Well, I just want to ask you, Chris, I guess about our 25 years of friendship. And the closest I've ever gotten to an invitation to Montana is you should really come out one year. And me, I'm thinking I'm a pretty low maintenance guy. I like being on my own just as much as the next or just as much as a Rosillo. why Rosillo and why the repeat invitation and one's not coming my way? This is textbook you to martyr yourself with regards to an invitation to a place that you have no interest in coming. That's not true. All right.

Next year. Okay. Okay. But how would you compare? What you commit to coming to Montana next year? Yes. Done. Okay.

Done? Yes. all right and if you don't come to montana what's the penalty ban for life yeah ban for life there half your green light pod salary now not making much of a dent there now i can't believe making immediately turn the fire story into how come i'm not invited pay pay dispute within you don't listen to this podcast obviously

it was but i was just happy to be back in montana and honestly jackson hole went way worse than this so So I would Give us the best kid quote from the weekend. Easy. I don't know who programmed your two-year-old Luke.

He's unblown. I mean, look, obviously, Waylon, I'm a little biased because I've known Waylon longer. And that's kind of my dude. But Luke is coming into this phase of like observation

that is so weird. It's so funny. How smart he is and these little things it'll do. and we've been talking about Yellowstone and both Chris and Meg are not fans of the storylines at all. And then it's made me revisit some of it a little bit.

And I think they're closer that it is kind of like one of those 80s night soap operas that I grew up with as a kid. Although my parents never watched that stuff and most parents did. And then we'd be like, Luke, what do you think of Yellowstone? He's like, it's trash. He knows it's trash.

He knows it's trash, bro. How many times I had to tell you three times it's trash. This is a two-year-old kid. Hey, I did not coach him to see that either. He just knows. I think he's being a little hard on it, but he likes what he likes. Hey, Ryan, let's talk some NBA.

I know Macon did a big board the other day, so we definitely jumped in. We dove into the NBA content headfirst over here at the Greenlight Pod. Make any questions in the aftermath of the draft. Do you think or do you not think that Alshin Goon will win two MVPs? Two teams high. Two teams high. He was a Turkish MVP. It's a really good league.

And to do it at that age is pretty impressive. I mean, he's a really skilled, skilled offensive player. I worry about where this league is going and which kind of big guys you can keep out there defensively, which is why I probably dropped. Because I don't think he's a great athlete by any means. And I look at even some of these guys that are really good athletes, and they still get played off the floor to close playoff games. But again, as I say all this stuff out loud, like,

Who cares, right? Like, if you're drafting a player in your Houston, I don't think you'd be like, okay, but can we play him in the Western Conference finals? You know, like, all right, maybe you worry about that in a couple years and not right now. But he's really, really talented. You know what I did find funny, though,

watching him for, you know, the breakdowns that I do? He complains so much. I can't wait. I can't wait. Because it used to be that you had to be like the best guy in the team to complain to get time of the ref. And then other than that, the rest of them really talked to you that much.

And then I don't know what happened last 10 years or so. It's exploded where everybody, I mean, you can be like a G-leager and start sitting there feeling like you need an audience. You deserve an audience with the officials after a time you drove to the hoop. And so he may have brushed into your hip. But Sengoon complains a lot. But he's a really good prospect.

He is. He is. It would just be a matter of how can he stay on the floor? Like if he's going to be really good, how can he be passable defensively? you know, can the offense be so good that whatever he's limited with defensively, that it's still offsets. I mean, that's kind of what Yokic is.

I mean, Yokic is pretty bad defensively, but his offense is like off the charts. The guy wins an MVP, so there you go. There's your model. Magic gets Suggs and Wagner. That's sick, but do you think Suggs was sitting there thinking about Toronto for a few months? And then it's like, who, Orlando? Yeah, I actually think, like, Orlando.

Orlando might be better for him because I think he can come in and take over. Some of the guards are okay, but I think they know that this is a whole different level with what Suggs potentially could be. And this can be like his team from day one. And with Toronto, you know, Vienbleeds there, Siakam's pretty good. And Toronto is a better team than a team that ended up in the fourth pick. You know, they had all sorts of problems. They had it stretched there where it's like they couldn't get anything done.

They didn't be happy. people healthy. They were missing their coaching staff. So it's up, you know, really, I mean, I don't know what his deal is with the city. He's from what, Minnesota, I think. So maybe he wanted to go to Toronto a little bit more. I mean, from a competitive standpoint, making you right, like, okay, hey, you know, I thought I was going to go to Toronto, better organization the last few years. I'm ready to go.

But there's a part of me that almost thinks, in a weird way, he can make that his own in Orlando. And if he's the guy that I think we think he is based on his personality and the way he he just attacked this year and his whole mentality is everything you'd want an athlete. If he really is that guy, they're going to lose some games, but he can kind of make that his own in a way he couldn't in Toronto. So I think there's a

positive angle on it too. Did you have Primo going 12, Rye? I did not have Primo going 12. I was surprised. A lot of people were surprised when he was first being mentioned as a first rounder, which I think was still a couple weeks out. He was kind of like one of these late, like hey, look who's showing up

in the first round, a lot of mocks. There was one SEC guy that I talked with who was like, dude, he might not be one of the 20 best players in the FCC. So that's surprising people. Yes, I know he's really young. Yes, I know he measured really long. He basically hit a couple threes. And he always had like one play where you're like, whoa, that was kind of weird, whatever he did there. So, you know, maybe the spurs did get this one right, but it just seems really high.

Nobody had him going there. They did a good job with that. I never heard that once. I thought that they'd probably be able to trade down a little bit. But then there's a thought that maybe somebody else was interested in that. So they just went ahead and did it. I actually don't blame teams like, ooh, we can take them at 19, but we can't take them at 12.

Like, oh, my God, it's the end of the world. You know, we took a guy, we took a guy seven spots higher than the experts had them. You know, if you like the guy, go ahead and take them. That one just felt like the guys that have watched SEC basketball all year were like, I don't know what they see there. So it's not just people reacting to the mock. I think it's a lot of guys that actually watched Bama this year and all those talented SEC players.

And I'm like, wait, that's the guy you wanted out of the SEC. considering all the other guys that were available. So that's surprise to people. Do you feel like 48 to New York is flying under the radar? I just feel like this should be a bigger deal. This is the guy we've been waiting for as next fans. I think it's, I think wherever it is on the radar probably is about where it should be. He's a good player.

But I think in Boston it felt like, you know, he regressed where you're like, wait, are you one of those guys that can kind of fill it up on a bad team with no pressure all the time? But, you know, the other problem with cap space is you have to use it. And everybody wants one of those awesome players. And if you don't have anyone in place already, I mean, there's no one on the Dix where you think, oh, I have to play with this guy. I mean, Julius Arnold is terrific this year. But he's not some of the other stars are like, man, I don't think Damien Lillers going,

man, if it was me and Julius Randall, look out. That's not what's happened. So what's the Mendoza line for like a magnet player? Like, who's on the bottom end of a player that could actually attract other agents. No, it's a really good question. Jay Butt. Jimmy Butler? Yeah. Yeah, that might be it. You know, because if you run through all the top guys, yeah, of course you want to play with Steph. I mean, guys still want to play with Harder. Guys actually still want to play with Westbrook, which blows my mind. You know,

AD, Durant, we'll see what happens here with Donchich. You know, we'll find out more as the money starts to thin around him, which is a anytime soon. But yeah, Jimmy Butler, I think that's actually a really good answer. I was going to throw in the Boston guys too, like Tatum. Like I can imagine Tatum being somebody, somebody one day wants to go ahead and play with. That'd probably be more of an answer if it weren't in Boston, because Boston's just not a destination for NBA guys. He's not there yet. Not there yet, Ryan. He doesn't expect attention at one. I think he gives as a player. Yeah, I think he is as a player. Like, I'd rather have Tate at the Jimmy Butler at this point. Right, right. But I think location

probably would impact. Look, Kyrie didn't want to be there. They could have traded for Anthony Davis. He was going to leave after a year. You know, for the Celtics fans to get mad about them not going all in with assets and getting these guys. It's like, well, what's the point of getting somebody for one year? Yes, it worked for Toronto.

If that's your model, hope the other team's best players are hurt. And then we win a title. And then, you know, we're reinventing ourselves the next year. Like a title is a title, but that's not a really stable plan, blueprint to want to follow. So I'm with you guys. Yeah, I do think Tatum's on that list. I think that's probably kind of where the cut off, like if Drew Holiday were on the pelicans by himself, no one really cares.

You know, if, you know, Beal, like, even Beal, who's a good player? Who's the star that's like, I definitely want to, like, let's get this Wizards thing going, I guess. That's not likely. Get the Wizards thing go. What, the Lakers thing, which is always going. How does this chapter of Lakers' musical chairs end? I like the deal for the regular season energy, you know, fix.

Like Russell, Westbrook's like a cup of coffee for the Lakers. It's going to last all regular season. You know, it really is. And apparently the Heald deal, depending on who you believe, you know, and there's a lot of people that all have the same story. So it seems as if it was somewhat believable that the Heald deal was available all week. And then all of a sudden, like LeBron Water, Westbrook instead. So that's what the Lakers went ahead.

did. What surprised me a little bit is like, would you want, if you were basketball playing, you have a couple more shots than your LeBron, would you care about your friendship? Would friendship trump basketball fit? Because, you know, this is so predictable too.

Like, they'll start the season, there'll be like a second game in, they'll play somebody else. And like, you know, Russell will have 30. LeBron will have 25 and 15, 80, you'll pitch in. All three guys will have it going at a different time. And then, you know, the TV shows the next day.

I'll say, like, oh, I thought people said this wasn't a good fit. You're like, all right, yeah, you guys, you know, you smoke San Antonio on a Tuesday. Like, I get it. Like, it's going to happen at times, and they're going to have a really good record. But I've seen too much Westbrook, as far as his instincts, I think they always come from the right place, but he never, he never has fixed any of that stuff, the bad shot. And more importantly, the defensive gambles that, I mean, he'll have stretches in a close game where you'll see some of the decisions that he makes defensively.

You can't believe he's still doing it. And for those who think like, oh, LeBron, I'll hold him accountable. He's not changing any of this stuff. There's a reason why this guy never gets out of the first round. I mean, he's played with how many golf stars, like seven or eight, here in a very short amount of time. And they all seem to divorce at some point.

So you can like him. You can like his personality. You want to hang out, which is apparently like what LeBron wanted to do. But I'm surprised that LeBron, the basketball player here, thought that friendship mattered a little bit more than playoff basketball. regular season fit, I see it kind of paying off because of some of those intangibles. But when it comes down to, hey, I need more space or stay locked in defensively, don't miss rotations, don't freelance, don't leave a guy and come to double on a long two

and then it leaves the baseline cut wide open because the other side didn't think there was any way you were going to help off of a baseline cutter. Like there's just all the stuff that I see with him where when I hear people that don't ever want to point it out or deny that it happens, I'm just like, all right, I guess, you know, I guess we watch basketball differently. Well, it's hard because his fans, you're just like, oh, that guy plays super hard. How could I not like everything about his game?

I mean, well, I mean, you've highlighted a lot of reasons why it might not work. You've got Chris Paul, who is maybe your favorite player of all time. How many weeks did it take for you to feel good about talking about Chris Paul after the final? I'm okay. I'm okay with it. I mean, game four of all. He did seem okay. For people at home, he was fine on vacation.

Yeah. I'm, yeah, I think there's a certain age you get to, especially when you don't play a sport professionally, where, you know, I think if I showed up kind of bummed out and your father or your wife were like, hey, is Ryan all right? Like, Chris Paul, that game for us. You know, like that wouldn't be something I would want in my personal resume. I can be happy or, you know, unhappy for different reasons. And when it comes to sports at this stage of my life, you know, I'm still, I'm a little numb to it. love to him when it will ring, but I'll be okay. And he'll be okay, too.

So I think he ends up back with Phoenix. I really think that that's the best basketball fit for him, too, but I would never underestimate Robert Sarver, the owner there, you know, trying to, like having some point of drama, but my educated guess, I just can't fathom Paul would want to start over again with somebody else. I mean, this is a weird thing that we have going on here right now, And I don't know what the argument is, but if you want to make an anti-Westbrook argument, and clearly I prefer Chris Paul's approach to basketball more than Westbrook's,

but like Westbrook will be on four teams and four years, kind of in his prime, or just past the very, very peak of his prime. Like, what does that say? I mean, he's a Hall of Fame or MVP, and he's going to be on his fourth team here. And then I'll look at Chris Paul and be like, well, you love Chris Paul, and he's on the cusp of maybe the same thing happening. I'm like, well, one, I don't really think he's going to leave Phoenix. I'd be surprised at this point.

And then it's like he actually was, he was part of the Westbrook story where he was involved in these trades because Houston actually thought they were upgrading by getting rid of Paul. But Paul didn't want to play a lot more anyway. But it is kind of funny that we've had these two contemporaries end up on this many teams. They're both Hall of Famers,

Russ at another level with the MVP. I like Paul better. And yet I'd use one guy moving on as an argument against him. And the same thing. three teams in three years and potentially a fourth of Paul were to leave. I'd be like, yeah, but that's different. And I do think it's different, but I just think it's one of those things we can kind of talk ourselves in and out of contradiction.

We're going to let you get to your flight in a second here, so you get the hell out of the worst trip you've ever taken. Second worst. Second worst. What was the first one again? Google it. Oh, yeah. Wow.

I almost pulled somebody else's camper down here and just parked it right where his camper was. See what happened. well it's the key it's the key work on that camper too exactly that's the thing anytime this gets brought up I like to remind people

if your key worked on a neighbor's door at a resort it's not even a neighbor the hotel the hotel it turned in I was just randomly walking around Jackson Hole breaking into houses

left you're like yeah but that was what played that was the narrative that played hey so cool Why Leonard put this thing into perspective with him kind of going behind Russ's back and wanting Paul George more? And what the hell happened today?

What are we talking about? Yeah, Ramona Shelburne had that tidbit in there about Russbrook reaching out to Kauai being like, hey, if you're going to this clipper steel, maybe they'll jump in with you. And then it turned into apparently Kauai calling Paul George was like, hey, look, don't get left behind. I'd rather play with you. And then Paul George bounced. Paul George is a very, very impressionable person. Paul George is the guy that I feel like, you know,

like there's a kid on the bus sometimes. You're like, lions can fly, dude. And then that kid like goes home and tells his dad. He's like, I mean, or lions can fly. And dad's like, now they're not. I mean, I think that happened to me a few times. Sounds like a little kid.

But Paul, I think is very impressionable as a basketball guy. And it's like, hey, you know, do you want to do this? Like, think about that. He was going to go team up with LeBron. And he decided to stay with West. And then I love that too. He was like, man, he really likes fishing. Like, all right.

Like, you like it that much? And then a year later, he's already like, all right, I'm out of here. And he's the only reason he stayed the first time around is like Oklahoma City through a party for him. And he really liked Westbrook that much. And everything was good, right? They stuck it out. And it was like, no, no, I'm leaving. Like, I'm staying here.

I'm not going back to L.A. Even though I told the Pacers when I wanted to leave, hey, I'm not resigning here. you might as well trade me because I'm going to sign with the Lakers. And then none of that stuff happens. And then he talks to Kauai. It was like, all right, I'm going to go. Now, I know for a fact that Kauai, I don't know how this plays into this story, but Kauai was even open to the idea like, well, if the clippers can't trade for you,

maybe I'd go to Toronto with you. Like he just, Kauai was trying to find a guy that would go with him anywhere, which has always been LeBron's deal. Like, hey, I may move around, but I'm not going to do this stuff by myself, which is, again, why it was kind of weird that first year. at least LeBron ended up in L.A. Without anybody there. He's almost there a year before the rest of the plan was going to take over.

So Kauai deciding actually I don't want to play with Russ, it's not surprising at all, which is kind of a funny argument about like Kauai versus LeBron as GMs. But him opting out, I think has more to do with, there's just so many people that have a hard time believing he's leaving the Clippers. Being in L.A., I think I hear about it more. and these are the times where I kind of defer to Woge.

I have a hard time believing Wojj would put something out there that, like he said multiple times. There's been no inclination. There's no thought that he's going to bounce. That makes me think that, you know, some people think the deals already been done. So he opted out so that he'd get a new extension in the raise instead of just keeping the optioneer

and then coming back after the ACL. I mean, that's good money when you can have a blown ACL and turn down like 30-something million and get a raise on a new deal and you already know what's going to happen. So, I mean, look, if he wanted to, he'd get max money from everybody. They wouldn't care. He's that special of a player.

But there may be this understanding that he was always going to get this new extension with him. But again, with Kauai, I hate to ever assume anything because his circle is the tightest circle ever. Like people never really quite know. And this guy we've learned too, man, it's kind of funny. Like he's the ultimate spur or quiet, just happy to be there. And they're like, now this guy's like, chill it, whether it's on or off the court. He just was like, no, I'm worried about me and I'm just going to do my own thing. And that's what he does.

Rye, we'll get you out of here. Dan Patrick interview was excellent. Everyone go check it out. I've really appreciated you're getting on Simmons more about his pronunciations. I've got one for you. His nephew's last name, his wife's maiden name, is Crichton, not Creton. Kyle. That's right.

And do you hear how Bill says it every single time? Bill knows there's some pronunciation. issues. With his in-laws? No, he knows. We've talked about it. Bill knows. Like, Malik Monk was a weird one there for a while. And I know, I know

that bothers me. How does he say it? You don't say mock. No, that's one I texted Ryan about. It's mock. Every time it's mock. We've had a couple others. And he knows. He just knows. Like, there's a couple of guys just never. So, yeah, I guess you're right. I hadn't really thought of it that way.

I'll see. We'll see what the minutes are in the next meeting. Okay. I'll bring it up. Okay. All right. Ryan, escape, dude. Escape from, from Flathead Lake.

Hey, thanks for everything. And seriously, like, just getting to be in Montana and be outside, it was enough, even, you know, despite everything that went on. And, you know, that's, I really mean this, though. Like, when you're seeing it and seeing how bad it could be, the last thing I'm going to do is complain about. vacation when you know that fire had potential to be far worse so i just want to make that point very clear and even on its worst day it's not sepal veda boulevard no and i know it's funny because people think i'm a complainer i'm not i'm not a complainer i just go all right adjust best house guest of all time great yeah no i'd be an unbelievable i always felt like that would have been something

that would have been great as a teammate i'd be like hey all right guys we know the deal like fuck shut up, let's fucking go. Like, do you want to win or do you want to lose? Do you want to worry about it? You would have been a good teammate. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. I'm not going to push back on that. Ryan Rosillo, Hall of Fame, house guest, and uncle to my children. Thank you, Ryan. Yeah, I just wish the playing, the other stuff worked out so I could have shown off those teammate skills. But, you know, we all have our own path. Thank you.